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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,876 Welcome to "Last Week Tonight !" I'm John Oliver ! 2 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,810 Thank you so much for joining us. It has been a busy week. 3 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,520 As of taping, Israel is, in the words of its prime minister "at war", 4 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,075 FEMA ran a test 5 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,439 to see how effectively our phones could scare the shit out of us, 6 00:00:46,759 --> 00:00:50,156 and Kevin McCarthy was the victim of the firstever intra-party coup 7 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:51,836 against a speaker of the House. 8 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,156 It left North Carolina representative Patrick McHenry, 9 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,320 Patton Oswalt as a ventriloquist dummy, 10 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,035 serving as temporary speaker. 11 00:01:00,119 --> 00:01:02,799 And he seemed pretty angry after McCarthy's ousting. 12 00:01:03,399 --> 00:01:06,999 {\an8}The chair declares the House in recess, subject to the call of the chair. 13 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,275 That man is mad. Which is only slightly undermined 14 00:01:14,359 --> 00:01:16,355 by the fact that he's dressed like a four-year-old 15 00:01:16,439 --> 00:01:18,680 who's gonna fuck up the whole wedding. 16 00:01:20,599 --> 00:01:23,995 Elections for the new speaker will likely be held this week, 17 00:01:24,079 --> 00:01:25,596 and so far, the front runners seem to be 18 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,795 far-right Jim Jordan or Steve Scalise, 19 00:01:28,879 --> 00:01:32,120 who's been described as "David Duke without the baggage". 20 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,476 And you know who described him as that ? 21 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:35,599 He did ! 22 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,075 And to describe yourself as David Duke, 23 00:01:39,159 --> 00:01:43,480 the former Grand Wizard of the KKK, without the baggage, is a choice. 24 00:01:44,239 --> 00:01:46,159 Because that man is all baggage. 25 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,910 Without it, he's just the Crypt-Keeper with a patchy bleach job. 26 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:51,879 It is pretty clear 27 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,355 that the Republican Party is being controlled by the absolute extremes. 28 00:01:55,439 --> 00:01:58,476 But not just nationally, at the local level, too. 29 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,275 And to show you just how bad it's gotten, 30 00:02:00,359 --> 00:02:04,116 look at the mayoral race unfolding in the city of Franklin, Tennessee, 31 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:09,075 where their current Republican mayor is facing this woman, Gabrielle Hanson, 32 00:02:09,159 --> 00:02:11,436 a real estate agent and current alderman. 33 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,955 She's branded herself as a hardcore MAGA candidate 34 00:02:15,039 --> 00:02:17,756 and has posted photos of herself at Mara-Lago. 35 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,599 And look how happy she is there ! 36 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,075 That's the face of someone who just dined on a well-done steak 37 00:02:23,159 --> 00:02:25,559 and read some classified documents on the toilet. 38 00:02:26,199 --> 00:02:31,716 Back in April, Hanson made news for opposing the city's Pride event, 39 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,876 arguing that its participants couldn't be trusted around children, 40 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,439 and offering this critique of previous performers. 41 00:02:38,159 --> 00:02:42,316 {\an8}In one of the pictures of Jaidynn Diore Fierce, one of the Miss Fits, 42 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:47,000 {\an8}she's clad in an Elmothemed drag outfit, 43 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,800 {\an8}which I'm sure to an underage individual, 44 00:02:51,719 --> 00:02:57,240 {\an8}this could create confusion in their mind as to what's being represented. 45 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,075 Okay, but by that logic, 46 00:03:00,159 --> 00:03:03,355 we should outlaw children from walking around Times Square, too, 47 00:03:03,439 --> 00:03:06,955 because seeing Olaf from "Frozen" with his head popped off, 48 00:03:07,039 --> 00:03:08,639 smoking a Black & Mild 49 00:03:09,159 --> 00:03:12,395 is way more confusing than someone wearing eyeshadow 50 00:03:12,479 --> 00:03:14,120 and an Elmo-themed bodysuit. 51 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:19,520 Also, for the record, her name is Jaidynn Diore Fierce, not "Dioree", 52 00:03:19,879 --> 00:03:22,115 and Elmo is not remotely her finest work. 53 00:03:22,199 --> 00:03:26,120 Because she is constantly serving cartoon looks. 54 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,800 Have you ever seen a minion serve body ? 55 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:31,680 Because you have now. 56 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,139 Hanson also tried to pressure the Nashville airport 57 00:03:35,319 --> 00:03:37,476 out of funding a Juneteenth celebration, 58 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,115 saying "I don't want my tax dollars or fees 59 00:03:40,199 --> 00:03:42,795 off of plane tickets going to radical agendas." 60 00:03:42,879 --> 00:03:46,280 And with all due respect, you're talking to an airport. 61 00:03:46,599 --> 00:03:50,156 It doesn't care about you. It doesn't care about anyone. 62 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,080 It's an airport. 63 00:03:53,039 --> 00:03:56,635 The only food available is either dill pickle almonds or brisket nachos, 64 00:03:56,719 --> 00:03:58,039 with no middle ground. 65 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,400 It's acceptable to drink at 7:00 AM, and they will sell your lost luggage. 66 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,355 The airport is a cruel, unfeeling dimension, 67 00:04:05,439 --> 00:04:07,996 uninterested in your culture war bullshit. 68 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,716 Now, since then, Hanson seems to have tried to broaden her base, 69 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,115 posting photos of diverse groups of supporters, 70 00:04:14,199 --> 00:04:17,435 including this one, labeled as an "executive women's club" 71 00:04:17,519 --> 00:04:21,555 {\an8}who she said had provided "invaluable support and encouragement" 72 00:04:21,639 --> 00:04:23,399 {\an8}with the hashtag "Vote Hanson". 73 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,836 {\an8}But while that might seem like an endorsement from those women, 74 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,795 {\an8}watch what happened when a local reporter tracked one of them down 75 00:04:29,879 --> 00:04:31,879 {\an8}and asked a pretty simple question. 76 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,210 {\an8}Do you support Gabrielle Hanson ? 77 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,755 {\an8}I do not, I actually do not know who that is. 78 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,076 {\an8}After some on social media noticed the pic 79 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,555 {\an8}seemed to have been taken at a restaurant in Chicago, 80 00:04:42,639 --> 00:04:45,235 {\an8}Hanson posted an update on Facebook claiming 81 00:04:45,319 --> 00:04:48,596 {\an8} "These are all my friends that have relocated to Nashville, 82 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,080 {\an8}Brentwood, and Franklin and they all support me." 83 00:04:51,399 --> 00:04:53,596 {\an8}The women say that's a lie. 84 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,430 {\an8}Any message you would have for her ? 85 00:04:56,879 --> 00:05:00,716 {\an8}I would encourage her to go make genuine friends 86 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,516 {\an8}so she can take photos with those folks if she's looking for supporters. 87 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,675 {\an8}There's no need to comb pictures on the internet to make up a story. 88 00:05:08,759 --> 00:05:09,879 {\an8}None of us need that. 89 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,156 Not only are those women clearly not your friends, 90 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,720 you definitely just united them against you. 91 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,396 I guarantee you, one of them dropped your post in the group chat, 92 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,680 and the replies are still going right now. 93 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:31,355 And the thing is, Hanson has been caught lying about weird shit 94 00:05:31,439 --> 00:05:33,675 a truly ridiculous amount of times. 95 00:05:33,759 --> 00:05:35,516 Earlier this year, during a podcast interview, 96 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,150 she claimed to have predicted the Covenant School shooting in Nashville, 97 00:05:39,199 --> 00:05:41,435 stating she had a premonition about it, 98 00:05:41,519 --> 00:05:44,879 chalking it up to what "could have been a holy spirit thing". 99 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,396 What's more, she also claimed that she'd told a police officer 100 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,516 about that premonition when he came to her home over a different issue. 101 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,156 The problem is, that same local reporter 102 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,836 tracked down that officer's bodycam video, 103 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:58,560 which told a different story. 104 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:00,675 {\an8}During that 23-minute video, 105 00:06:00,759 --> 00:06:04,755 {\an8}she never mentions anything remotely like the Covenant School shooting. 106 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,199 {\an8}No mention of a premonition, no mention of an active shooter, 107 00:06:08,639 --> 00:06:10,439 {\an8}no mention of the holy spirit. 108 00:06:11,079 --> 00:06:14,995 {\an8}And Hanson's fabrications have gone even further in a talk radio interview 109 00:06:15,079 --> 00:06:18,875 {\an8}questioning how Melissa Joan Hart happened to be near Covenant 110 00:06:18,959 --> 00:06:22,680 {\an8}at the time of the shooting to help children who were trying to escape. 111 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,200 {\an8}Maybe that's why Melissa Joan Hart was there, 112 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,640 {\an8}she must have known it was going to happen, also. 113 00:06:29,519 --> 00:06:30,439 Wait, what ?! 114 00:06:31,319 --> 00:06:32,836 Melissa Joan Hart 115 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,199 psychically knows when a school shooting is about to happen ? 116 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,320 That is not something an elected official should say in an interview, 117 00:06:40,399 --> 00:06:43,755 it's what a Disney Channel exec probably screamed in 2002 118 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,639 after inhaling a metric ton of cocaine. 119 00:06:47,639 --> 00:06:49,276 And before we go any further, 120 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,036 let's take a moment to acknowledge that reporter, Phil Williams. 121 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:54,795 Because he's been all over this story, 122 00:06:54,879 --> 00:06:57,716 and we've featured his work on this show a bunch in the past. 123 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:03,519 If you are a politician in Tennessee, Phil has his foot on your goddamn neck. 124 00:07:04,759 --> 00:07:07,036 His official NewsChannel five bio 125 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,235 features a quote from a Nashville political strategist, 126 00:07:09,319 --> 00:07:12,276 saying, "If the press calls, call your PR person. 127 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,279 If Phil Williams calls, call your lawyer because you are in trouble." 128 00:07:16,839 --> 00:07:22,480 This is a bad, bad man. You do not fuck around with Phil Williams. 129 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,480 And it seems Gabrielle Hanson is currently in her "finding out" era 130 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,596 when it comes to her dealings with him, 131 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:33,396 because Phil has uncovered so much weird new context around her life. 132 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,716 Remember her bullshit outrage over the local Pride event ? 133 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,555 Phil discovered something that her husband once did 134 00:07:39,639 --> 00:07:42,240 that suggests a hell of a double standard. 135 00:07:42,879 --> 00:07:45,755 {\an8}Children seeing images that they could not unsee 136 00:07:45,839 --> 00:07:49,195 {\an8}was why the Franklin alderman said she tried to block a Pride celebration 137 00:07:49,279 --> 00:07:50,439 {\an8}at a Franklin park, 138 00:07:50,759 --> 00:07:54,800 {\an8}saying in a podcast interview, it was a question of basic morality. 139 00:07:55,319 --> 00:07:59,355 {\an8}Yet where was her morality during Chicago's 2008 Pride parade 140 00:07:59,439 --> 00:08:01,516 {\an8}before the Hansons moved to Tennessee ? 141 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,276 {\an8}At the time, Tom Hanson was running a Republican campaign for Congress 142 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,920 {\an8}and organizers agreed to let him in. 143 00:08:08,399 --> 00:08:11,156 {\an8}He told the local LGBTQ newspaper, quote, 144 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:15,716 {\an8} "So, it just came to me. I said, 'Maybe I'll wear an American flag Speedo.' 145 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,240 {\an8}And my wife said, 'If you do that, I'll hold you to it.'" 146 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,476 Magnificent. So, just to recap: snatched Elmo ? 147 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,516 Irreparably harmful to children. 148 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,360 Star-spangled ballbag here ? 149 00:08:27,759 --> 00:08:30,235 That's apparently completely fine with her ! 150 00:08:30,319 --> 00:08:35,879 Also, nd I'm not here to police anyone else's drag but, is he tucked ? 151 00:08:37,519 --> 00:08:39,559 Could just have been cold ! 152 00:08:42,279 --> 00:08:43,440 It was June, though. 153 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,279 But anyway, if all that wasn't enough, 154 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,955 just this week, Hanson was caught up in yet another scandal, 155 00:08:52,039 --> 00:08:53,835 this time, involving an eye-catching group 156 00:08:53,919 --> 00:08:57,019 that showed up to support and protect her at a candidate forum. 157 00:08:57,519 --> 00:08:59,396 {\an8}The man on the left is Sean Kauffmann, 158 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,795 {\an8}who has been described by the StopAntisemitism watchdog group 159 00:09:02,879 --> 00:09:06,279 {\an8}as, quote, "a disturbed neo-Nazi and Holocaust denier 160 00:09:06,639 --> 00:09:11,000 {\an8}with a documented history of violence and a massive cache of firearms". 161 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:12,876 {\an8}Then there's Brad Lewis. 162 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,860 {\an8}He's the operator of the Lewis Country Store on the far west side of Nashville, 163 00:09:16,879 --> 00:09:19,919 {\an8}a store known for its extreme rightwing messaging. 164 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,276 {\an8}When the store recently went on the market, 165 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,600 {\an8}Gabrielle Hanson was the real estate agent who got the listing. 166 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,116 {\an8}A recent investigation by the Southern Poverty Law Center 167 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,435 {\an8}revealed how the second floor of the store 168 00:09:31,519 --> 00:09:34,279 {\an8}was being used as a white nationalist fight club. 169 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,120 {\an8}Lewis responded in a post on Telegram, calling himself 170 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,480 {\an8}an "actual literal Nazi". 171 00:09:40,799 --> 00:09:44,799 {\an8}Ms. Hanson, the people you're with had described themselves as literal Nazis. 172 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,620 {\an8}Is this the type of people you should be associating with ? 173 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,720 {\an8}They said they're literal Nazis. 174 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,519 Phil Williams is just wrecking her, 175 00:09:56,159 --> 00:09:58,675 waving a cell phone in Hanson's face and asking 176 00:09:58,759 --> 00:10:01,675 "So, you hang out with Nazis or what ?" 177 00:10:01,759 --> 00:10:04,315 and doing it loud enough for the whole row to hear. 178 00:10:04,399 --> 00:10:08,675 Also, what on Earth did that cursed Zillow listing look like ? 179 00:10:08,759 --> 00:10:11,356 "Great opportunity to own-slashoperate your business 180 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,756 in this income-generating, threeunit mixed-use white supremacist building. 181 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,236 First floor is a store with terrible vibes, 182 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,996 and the second floor unit is a neo-Nazi fight club. 183 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,279 Sold as is." 184 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,555 Hanson denies engaging that group as security, 185 00:10:24,639 --> 00:10:28,435 {\an8}despite the fact that she walked into that meeting with a Holocaust denier, 186 00:10:28,519 --> 00:10:32,559 {\an8}while her husband was escorted in by a guy with a Proud Boys face tattoo. 187 00:10:33,039 --> 00:10:34,839 {\an8}And she's tried to deflect criticism 188 00:10:34,919 --> 00:10:38,480 over the fact that she took a literal Nazi's real estate listing, 189 00:10:38,799 --> 00:10:41,840 but, even in doing so, made some bold choices. 190 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,960 {\an8}If you based me on all the clients that I'm representing currently, 191 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,276 {\an8}I would be a white supremacist, neo-Nazi, 192 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,639 {\an8}I would be a lesbian like my one client, and I would be Black, too. 193 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,720 {\an8}That is who I would be 194 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,435 {\an8}if you're gonna blame me for the clients that I represent, 195 00:11:00,519 --> 00:11:03,195 {\an8}because those are the clients at this very moment that I'm representing. 196 00:11:03,279 --> 00:11:06,955 {\an8}And I would probably be a Muslim jihadist as well 197 00:11:07,039 --> 00:11:09,189 {\an8}because I have a Middle Eastern client, too. 198 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:16,475 Gabs, but you did just imply one of your clients was a "Muslim jihadist" 199 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,996 simply based on the fact that they are Middle Eastern, 200 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,516 so I'd say you're probably more of a white supremacist neo-Nazi 201 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,320 than you are lesbian or Black. 202 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:29,876 In a world that makes sense, this woman would obviously 203 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,516 have withdrawn from this mayoral race in shame. 204 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,919 But she still has supporters, there are lawn signs up for her in Franklin. 205 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,996 And there is a real chance that she could still win this election. 206 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:44,396 While her numerous scandals are almost cartoonish in their extremity, 207 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,156 her behavior is entirely emblematic of Republican politics 208 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,075 from the local level all the way up to the top, 209 00:11:51,159 --> 00:11:53,109 where, if we learned anything this week, 210 00:11:53,159 --> 00:11:57,679 it's that far-right Republicans maintain a vice-like grip over the entire party. 211 00:11:58,399 --> 00:12:01,595 And it frankly seems like our best bet at exposing them going forward 212 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,236 might be if we can somehow get more reporters 213 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,759 to take a page from Nashville's nosiest bitch. 214 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:09,440 And now, this. 215 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:11,559 And Now: 216 00:12:12,039 --> 00:12:16,036 People on TV Share Increasingly Unhinged Conspiracy Theories 217 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:17,600 About Taylor Swift. 218 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,195 {\an8}The big question is, are Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce dating ? 219 00:12:22,279 --> 00:12:25,156 {\an8}- Is that the big question ? - It's been on everybody's mind. 220 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,795 {\an8}It just makes you think, is there something else going on ? 221 00:12:27,879 --> 00:12:31,756 {\an8}Is Taylor teaming up with the NFL ? Something. I don't know. 222 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,036 {\an8}You're investigating. 223 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,996 {\an8}There's so many conspiracy theories about this. 224 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:36,835 {\an8}Is anything really a coincidence these days ? 225 00:12:36,919 --> 00:12:40,276 {\an8}Is anything accidental ? I say where there is smoke, there's fire. 226 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,475 {\an8}There's a conspiracy involved here. 227 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,356 {\an8}Our floor director Megan thinks that this is all a cover-up 228 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:50,955 {\an8}to conceal Taylor's true boyfriend, who she wants to keep private. 229 00:12:51,039 --> 00:12:52,715 {\an8}Travis is doing Taylor a solid. 230 00:12:52,799 --> 00:12:55,639 {\an8}The NFL was struggling to get women to watch football. 231 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,396 {\an8}And there is a part of me that's like "Huh". 232 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,675 {\an8}We're getting ready for Taylor Swift's 1989 re-release. 233 00:13:01,759 --> 00:13:04,595 {\an8}The theme for this album is the color red. 234 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,579 {\an8}Travis Kelce plays for the Chiefs. They are a big red team. 235 00:13:07,639 --> 00:13:12,516 {\an8}He was also born in 1989. This is a promotional tool, Travis ! 236 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,475 {\an8}So, Taylor Swift is from Philadelphia originally. 237 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:19,835 {\an8}That maybe she's actually trying to mess Travis Kelce up. 238 00:13:19,919 --> 00:13:21,315 You think it's sabotage ? 239 00:13:21,399 --> 00:13:24,049 She knows that they're going to get to the Super Bowl. 240 00:13:24,639 --> 00:13:28,555 And the theory is, she's going to eventually ghost him at that point, 241 00:13:28,639 --> 00:13:31,236 and then he's going to play not so good. 242 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,620 It rose all the way to the White House, though. 243 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:38,236 The White House press secretary was even asked about the potential romance. 244 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,036 Does President Biden think it's real ? 245 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,835 In the vernacular of the National Security Council, 246 00:13:42,919 --> 00:13:45,519 I can neither confirm or deny those reports. 247 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:50,000 Moving on. 248 00:13:50,639 --> 00:13:52,955 Our main story tonight concerns school. 249 00:13:53,039 --> 00:13:56,636 For some, it's the place to make friends and enjoy first crushes, 250 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,559 while for others, and I'm not naming names, it's not. 251 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:01,399 It's different. 252 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,555 Specifically, we're gonna talk about homeschooling. 253 00:14:04,639 --> 00:14:07,675 During the pandemic, many parents were suddenly forced to do it, 254 00:14:07,759 --> 00:14:11,519 and while some struggled, others, like this family, absolutely thrived. 255 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,435 A, B, C, D, E, F, G, 256 00:14:14,519 --> 00:14:16,519 H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, 257 00:14:17,039 --> 00:14:19,475 Q, R, S, T, U, V, 258 00:14:19,559 --> 00:14:21,480 W, X, Y, and Z. 259 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,879 Now you know your ABCs. 260 00:14:25,159 --> 00:14:30,756 That is clearly excellent, but it's also a pretty mean way 261 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,240 to make other parents look like total shit. 262 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:35,715 Because that is significantly better 263 00:14:35,799 --> 00:14:37,916 than anything I did with my kids during the pandemic, 264 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,835 it was much less singing certified alphabet bangers 265 00:14:40,919 --> 00:14:44,319 and much more "hiding in the closet, praying they would not find me". 266 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:49,000 Also, quick shoutout to the baby on the counter living her best life. 267 00:14:49,519 --> 00:14:51,516 She has no idea what's going on, 268 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,636 but yet there she is in the center of it all 269 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,919 like Mariah Carey on a New Year's broadcast. 270 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:01,236 That family, like many, sent their kids back to school. 271 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,756 But for some, homeschooling isn't just a pandemic-era necessity, 272 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:05,879 it's a way of life. 273 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,116 And you may have heard a stereotype of homeschoolers 274 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:10,955 being Christian conservatives 275 00:15:11,039 --> 00:15:13,675 who object to what kids learn in public school environments. 276 00:15:13,759 --> 00:15:15,600 And I admit, those people do exist. 277 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,955 Take this man, who offers this pretty shaky rationalization 278 00:15:19,039 --> 00:15:20,739 for pulling his kid out of school. 279 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:26,799 {\an8}I think the type of content on what they're teaching about sex or anal sex, 280 00:15:27,639 --> 00:15:31,396 that my third-grade daughter should not be in a classroom 281 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,675 where a teacher or someone else is teaching her about that. 282 00:15:34,759 --> 00:15:36,709 And that was your experience in school ? 283 00:15:36,759 --> 00:15:41,516 Through friends in other spots that had been kids at those ages, 284 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,320 'cause mine was only in first grade when we pulled her. 285 00:15:45,279 --> 00:15:47,480 That sounds like total bullshit. 286 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,195 Although I guess I do basically agree with him there, 287 00:15:50,279 --> 00:15:54,159 things that are not happening should continue not to happen. 288 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,955 But the truth is, the homeschooling community 289 00:15:57,039 --> 00:15:59,555 is much broader than just right-wing parents 290 00:15:59,639 --> 00:16:02,339 afraid of hypothetical third grade lube demonstrations. 291 00:16:02,559 --> 00:16:05,876 By one estimate, there are now around two million children 292 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,835 being homeschooled in this country, 293 00:16:07,919 --> 00:16:10,396 and parents can choose that for all sorts of reasons. 294 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,075 Maybe their kids have social or health problems, 295 00:16:13,159 --> 00:16:14,996 or disabilities that aren't being accommodated. 296 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,876 Maybe they're families with legitimate fears about school safety, 297 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,435 or who are in the military and move around a lot. 298 00:16:20,519 --> 00:16:22,475 And there's also a growing number of Black parents 299 00:16:22,559 --> 00:16:25,435 opting to homeschool due to whitewashed curriculums 300 00:16:25,519 --> 00:16:27,236 and zero-tolerance policies in schools 301 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,420 that disproportionately criminalize their kids at an early age. 302 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,600 So, there are lots of reasons to do it. 303 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:34,795 And the fact is, for some kids, 304 00:16:34,879 --> 00:16:38,080 getting to be homeschooled can be genuinely transformative. 305 00:16:38,759 --> 00:16:42,480 {\an8}At 15, Victoria asked her mom, Bernita, to take her out of Detroit schools. 306 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,195 {\an8}She says she was being bullied relentlessly for her appearance, 307 00:16:46,279 --> 00:16:48,679 {\an8}and it didn't seem like her administrators cared. 308 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:50,920 {\an8}It made me not want to ask questions, 309 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,116 {\an8}or not want to ask specific questions 310 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,756 {\an8}because I'm like, they're gonna call me dumb. 311 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,435 {\an8}When you transitioned to homeschooling, 312 00:16:58,519 --> 00:17:00,119 {\an8}how did you feel about yourself ? 313 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,360 {\an8}I felt more confident. 314 00:17:01,879 --> 00:17:06,559 {\an8}It was kind of like a sunshine, like the clouds opening a little bit. 315 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,119 That's great ! That is very nice. 316 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,076 And I know that's not something you usually hear me say 317 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:13,519 after a clip on this show. 318 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,876 It's usually a variation of "That's horrible", "Heartbreaking" 319 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,260 or "Shut the fuck up you baby bitch lawn dart". 320 00:17:19,599 --> 00:17:23,759 So, frankly, this is a welcome change of pace. 321 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,596 The point is: the ceiling of how good homeschooling can be 322 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,039 is admittedly very high. 323 00:17:29,599 --> 00:17:33,640 But the floor of how bad it can get is basically nonexistent. 324 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,156 Because to an extent that you may not realize, in many parts of the country, 325 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:41,515 homeschooling is unregulated which can result in enormous damage. 326 00:17:41,599 --> 00:17:44,636 So, given that, tonight, let's take a look at homeschooling. 327 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,876 There is a lot we don't know about homeschooled kids, 328 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,116 from exactly how many there are, to what they are learning. 329 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,836 When I said "there are around two million" of them, 330 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,116 the reason that's an estimate is that, depending on the state, 331 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,839 homeschool families might not have to report what they are doing at all. 332 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,836 In these 26 states, parents simply have to file a notice once a year 333 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,916 with officials to let them know that they are homeschooling their child. 334 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,519 In these 13, they only have to file a notice once, 335 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,400 with no requirement to check in ever again. 336 00:18:13,079 --> 00:18:16,640 And in the remaining 11, they don't have to notify anyone at all. 337 00:18:17,039 --> 00:18:19,089 And when it comes to the education itself, 338 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,800 filing a notice is typically where supervision stops, 339 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,116 as in most states, there is no oversight, 340 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,755 and no evaluation by anyone of the academic program 341 00:18:27,839 --> 00:18:29,475 and of students' progress. 342 00:18:29,559 --> 00:18:32,035 And homeschooling advocates will tell you that that is not a concern, 343 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,596 and that parents will simply come up with all sorts of innovative ways 344 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:36,759 to teach their kids. 345 00:18:37,079 --> 00:18:40,839 Here is one parent explaining how he taught his kids science. 346 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,195 {\an8}I can't tell you how many times, you know, in my home, 347 00:18:44,279 --> 00:18:48,559 {\an8}at our kitchen table we've dissected sheep eyeballs or frogs. 348 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:53,240 {\an8}Kitchens are great labs for this kind of thing. 349 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,680 {\an8}Where does somebody get a sheep eyeball ? 350 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,630 {\an8}John, you can just Google "sheep eyeball for homeschoolers". 351 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,530 {\an8}- I didn't know that. - 'Cause lots of people, absolutely. 352 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:08,279 First, are kitchens the best lab for this kind of thing ? 353 00:19:09,039 --> 00:19:12,116 I think probably labs are the best lab for this kind of thing. 354 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,035 I'm just saying, maybe don't go dissecting sheep eyeballs 355 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,519 in the same place where you cut olives for salad. 356 00:19:17,759 --> 00:19:22,279 Do not Google "sheep eyeballs", despite what that man just said. 357 00:19:23,039 --> 00:19:25,995 I did it, and I'm not even gonna show you the result unblurred 358 00:19:26,079 --> 00:19:27,755 because it is too nauseating. 359 00:19:27,839 --> 00:19:31,539 Suffice to say it looks like what would happen if an oyster had a butthole. 360 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,836 But while that man was clearly willing to go to impressive lengths 361 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,356 for at-home science lessons, not everyone has the time 362 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,759 or the resources to develop a curriculum from scratch. 363 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,156 That is why there are big publishers who offer materials 364 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,440 specifically tailored to homeschoolers. 365 00:19:48,759 --> 00:19:52,755 Much of that market is dominated by these three Christian textbook publishers 366 00:19:52,839 --> 00:19:55,475 who promise learning through a biblical filter. 367 00:19:55,559 --> 00:19:58,596 And look, it is absolutely a parent's right 368 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,675 to educate their child with religion if they so choose. 369 00:20:01,759 --> 00:20:05,359 But the quality of some of these books can be troubling. 370 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,356 For instance, one current Abeka history book 371 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,035 says that "The beginning of the 20th century 372 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,035 witnessed a cultural breakdown that threatened 373 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,156 to destroy the very roots of western civilization. 374 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:15,916 The cause of this dissolution 375 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,599 was an idea or philosophy known as liberalism." 376 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,356 A workbook from ACE celebrates the Confederate General Robert E. Lee 377 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:24,916 as "a devoted Christian 378 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,636 who practiced his Christianity in all his dealings with others" 379 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,596 And a science book from Bob Jones University claims that 380 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,235 "Biblical and scientific evidence tends to support the idea 381 00:20:34,319 --> 00:20:37,400 that men and dinosaurs existed at the same time." 382 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,955 And if you're wondering what that would look like, 383 00:20:40,039 --> 00:20:43,596 ACE actually had a workbook featuring this rendering, 384 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,796 implying that not only did men and dinosaurs exist at the same time, 385 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,980 but they were totally cool with each other. 386 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,796 "Hank, great tucked-in shirt ! Do you see that dinosaur over there ?" 387 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,880 "Sure do, Bob, love those jeans, by the way. Should we run ?" 388 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,515 "No way, these dinos are chill, let's keep whacking these leaves 389 00:21:00,599 --> 00:21:02,920 with that one sword knife that you brought." 390 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,916 While all of that is pretty troubling, the truth is, in many states, 391 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,596 the rules and oversight can be so lax, 392 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,559 parents don't ultimately have to teach their kids anything at all. 393 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,869 Just watch as this former homeschool student breaks down her daily schedule. 394 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,400 This is my list of assignments. 395 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,510 We've got the date at the top. I would have been 12. 396 00:21:25,759 --> 00:21:27,316 First, we've got classical music, 397 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,755 which was just turning on classical music in the morning 398 00:21:29,839 --> 00:21:31,389 so that everyone could hear it. 399 00:21:31,519 --> 00:21:34,960 We've got Bible listening. We've got handwriting and math. 400 00:21:35,319 --> 00:21:38,039 That's fairly normal. We've got memorizing the Bible. 401 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,160 We've got memorizing poetry. The poetry was mostly hymns. 402 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,480 We've got exercise. That's good. 403 00:21:44,799 --> 00:21:47,000 It was usually just walking around the block. 404 00:21:48,039 --> 00:21:50,839 And then the whole entire rest of the list 405 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,440 is chores and cleaning tasks. 406 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,995 It's true ! Most of her lessons just involved chores. 407 00:22:00,079 --> 00:22:03,995 And just look at that list ! That is a lot of cleaning demands ! 408 00:22:04,079 --> 00:22:06,076 Who was her parent ? This guy ? 409 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,955 I mean, don't get me wrong, he's an absolute zaddy. 410 00:22:09,039 --> 00:22:10,995 Would, will, and I'll take seconds. 411 00:22:11,079 --> 00:22:14,876 But as hot as he makes doing chores seem, 412 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,960 it's not an adequate alternative to education, is it ? 413 00:22:18,599 --> 00:22:21,955 Although I will say, even that is a preferable alternative 414 00:22:22,039 --> 00:22:24,796 to the single worst homeschool curriculum that we found, 415 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,839 whose creators excitedly promoted it on a podcast. 416 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,640 We are so deeply invested 417 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:37,119 into making sure that that child becomes a wonderful Nazi, 418 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,450 and by homeschooling we're going to get that done. 419 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,759 That is terrifying ! 420 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,316 You never want to hear a mother lovingly utter the sentence 421 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,000 "My kid's a wonderful Nazi", 422 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,475 outside of maybe if they're praising their son's performance 423 00:22:52,559 --> 00:22:54,275 as Rolf in "The Sound of Music." 424 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,356 And even then, just say "wonderful Rolf". 425 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:58,880 What's wrong with you ? 426 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,275 That woman and her husband launched their own online community, 427 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:08,156 Dissident Homeschool, in 2021, after she had a, quote, "rough time" 428 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,275 "finding Nazi-approved school material for her homeschool children." 429 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,000 And you know what ? Good ! 430 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,599 That probably shouldn't be an easy Google. 431 00:23:18,279 --> 00:23:22,076 In fact, if you search for that, it should probably autocorrect to 432 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,960 "Did you mean 'How do I take myself to jail ?'" 433 00:23:25,839 --> 00:23:29,916 At one point, Dissident Homeschool had nearly 2,500 subscribers 434 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,435 and included ideas like handwriting exercises 435 00:23:32,519 --> 00:23:35,400 consisting of "writing out quotes from Adolf Hitler." 436 00:23:35,839 --> 00:23:39,920 Which we can all agree is appalling. Handwriting exercises ? 437 00:23:40,559 --> 00:23:41,955 That is just cruel. 438 00:23:42,039 --> 00:23:43,955 They should be working on their keyboard skills, 439 00:23:44,039 --> 00:23:47,396 through games like "Mavis Beacon Teaches the Final Solution." 440 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,799 Although, not that, don't actually do that, that is awful. 441 00:23:51,559 --> 00:23:54,309 The channel also posted tips ensuring that their parents 442 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,519 were in "full compliance with the law" 443 00:23:56,839 --> 00:23:59,156 so that "the state" wouldn't interfere. 444 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,876 But as you have already seen, in most states, 445 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,079 they don't have much to worry about there. 446 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,755 When it comes to homeschooling, basically, anything goes. 447 00:24:07,839 --> 00:24:11,039 So, how the fuck is that the case ? 448 00:24:11,559 --> 00:24:14,396 In large part, it's thanks to a very powerful homeschooling lobby, 449 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:15,876 whose most prominent player 450 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,559 is the Home School Legal Defense Association or HSLDA. 451 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,400 Here is where I will concede some ground 452 00:24:22,759 --> 00:24:26,556 because it grew out of an environment that was, in many places, 453 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,475 overly restrictive of homeschooling, 454 00:24:28,559 --> 00:24:32,160 with some states and local school districts banning it entirely. 455 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:37,035 In Texas, in the 1980s, homeschooling families were prosecuted. 456 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,719 But a turning point came after several Texas families 457 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,720 filed a class-action suit against their school districts, and ultimately won. 458 00:24:43,759 --> 00:24:47,035 And around that same time, the HSLDA was formed, 459 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,640 with the aim of expanding the rights of homeschoolers in every state. 460 00:24:51,039 --> 00:24:52,715 And from the very beginning, 461 00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:55,720 it had a strong evangelical, conservative outlook. 462 00:24:56,079 --> 00:24:58,316 Its founding president and chairman, Michael Farris, 463 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,680 has referred to public schools as a "godless monstrosity." 464 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,515 And here he is back in 2004, speaking to the Christian coalition, 465 00:25:05,599 --> 00:25:08,499 and describing his long-term hopes for the next generation. 466 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,435 {\an8}Today, it is not preposterous to recognize what's going on, 467 00:25:12,519 --> 00:25:14,316 {\an8}the promotion of homosexuality, 468 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,195 {\an8}the promotion of other kinds of things that you heard from Walter Jones, 469 00:25:17,279 --> 00:25:18,929 {\an8}and you've heard many other times, 470 00:25:19,519 --> 00:25:23,836 {\an8}is a deplorable reality that we cannot countenance. 471 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,995 {\an8}I can't wait for the day when our young people 472 00:25:26,079 --> 00:25:31,359 {\an8}vanquish the enemy by a five-four vote reversing Roe versus Wade. 473 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,796 {\an8}And where we vanquish the specter of same-sex marriage. 474 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,480 {\an8}That's the standard of victory. 475 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,796 Okay, there is a lot that is hard to take in that clip, 476 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,876 that that's his wish list, that he's already gotten half of it, 477 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,010 and that he's saying "vanquish the enemy," 478 00:25:54,079 --> 00:25:55,396 despite looking less like a warrior 479 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,580 and more like your tax accountant's tax accountant's assistant. 480 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,995 Over the years, the HSLDA has lobbied extensively, 481 00:26:02,079 --> 00:26:03,435 from a hard-right perspective, 482 00:26:03,519 --> 00:26:06,475 on issues that have nothing to do with homeschooling, 483 00:26:06,559 --> 00:26:10,076 opposing everything from vaccine mandates to same-sex marriage. 484 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,596 But it speaks to how significant a force it is 485 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,880 that even some parents who are uneasy with its political leanings 486 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,519 feel that they have no choice but to be members. 487 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,410 Here is one mom, who started a homeschooling group 488 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,556 to offer an alternative to what she saw as a whitewashed curriculum, 489 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,079 talking about her relationship to the HSLDA. 490 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,316 {\an8}Whenever there's a threat in any particular state 491 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,596 {\an8}to their right to homeschool, you will see us come together. 492 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,839 It may not, we're not gonna stay together, but we will band up 493 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:42,035 because we all need our right to homeschool. 494 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,955 That's the nuanced aspect of being in the homeschool world. 495 00:26:46,039 --> 00:26:47,995 The people that you have to work with 496 00:26:48,079 --> 00:26:51,039 in order to maintain what you hold dear 497 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,480 are also the people who crush you. 498 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,755 It's true. The HSLDA have made themselves so powerful, 499 00:26:59,839 --> 00:27:01,556 many parents keep working with them 500 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,390 even if they don't agree with everything they stand for. 501 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,599 It's a dilemma otherwise known as "The Tom Cruise Conundrum." 502 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,520 On the one hand, a billion dollars at the box office. 503 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,675 On the other, a billion-year contract to an alien mafia. 504 00:27:13,759 --> 00:27:17,400 It's tricky, right ? It's tricky. What's a bunch of young hots to do ? 505 00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:21,356 Plus, for what it's worth, the HSLDA, much like Tom Cruise, 506 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,079 will probably never die. 507 00:27:24,079 --> 00:27:26,829 As a lobbying group, it's been astonishingly successful. 508 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:27,955 In four decades, 509 00:27:28,039 --> 00:27:30,396 its efforts have been credited with rolling back existing laws 510 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,119 governing homeschooling in state after state. 511 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,515 And the argument that it will always make against any regulation 512 00:27:36,599 --> 00:27:39,556 is you're just punishing all the parents doing things right, 513 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,076 to address a handful who are doing it wrong. 514 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,400 And in theory, sure. 515 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,750 But when you've got some parents 516 00:27:45,759 --> 00:27:47,876 running The Homeschool Institute of Dishwashing 517 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,515 and others running 'Lil Nazis "R" Us, 518 00:27:50,599 --> 00:27:53,359 it seems maybe the reins have gotten a little loose. 519 00:27:54,079 --> 00:27:57,195 And the lack of regulation here has serious consequences, 520 00:27:57,279 --> 00:27:59,799 and not just regarding quality of education. 521 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,720 And fair warning, this is where this story gets quite a bit darker. 522 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,755 {\an8}More than two million children are being homeschooled in the U.S., 523 00:28:07,839 --> 00:28:11,515 {\an8}many of them living in states that have little or no regulations, 524 00:28:11,599 --> 00:28:15,079 {\an8}making it easy for abusive parents to hide behind the system. 525 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,636 {\an8}These are the faces of just some of the homeschooled children 526 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,035 {\an8}who've died as a result of abuse and neglect. 527 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,269 {\an8}Susanna Grubbs was homeschooled in Missouri. 528 00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:26,556 {\an8}She tells us, the discipline she received was anything but gentle. 529 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,340 {\an8}I think that, in a lot of ways, me and my siblings fell through the cracks. 530 00:28:30,759 --> 00:28:33,275 {\an8}Because, I mean, with my mom's disciplinary techniques, 531 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,195 {\an8}and my mom's educational neglect. 532 00:28:35,279 --> 00:28:38,435 {\an8}It's terrible that it has happened and it keeps happening. 533 00:28:38,519 --> 00:28:42,035 {\an8}And nobody wants to stop it because parental rights 534 00:28:42,119 --> 00:28:44,569 {\an8}are so paramount to anything else in this country. 535 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,636 Exactly. And that is massively dangerous. 536 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,235 Because deregulating homeschooling 537 00:28:49,319 --> 00:28:52,836 doesn't eliminate safeguards against parents who are bad teachers, 538 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,995 it also eliminates them against parents who are bad people. 539 00:28:56,079 --> 00:28:58,955 For all the HSLDA's talk of "parental rights," 540 00:28:59,039 --> 00:29:01,289 it's worth remembering, Elon Musk is a parent. 541 00:29:01,359 --> 00:29:03,200 OJ Simpson is a parent. 542 00:29:03,519 --> 00:29:08,316 Darth Vader is such a parent he made it part of his fancy name change. 543 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,316 The point is, having a child does not inherently make you virtuous. 544 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,116 And one of the key problems here is, child welfare laws 545 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,920 were written before homeschooling was legal in all 50 states. 546 00:29:20,519 --> 00:29:24,755 So, they rely heavily on the premise that a child is going to be in school 547 00:29:24,839 --> 00:29:27,839 and seen by other adults, as this DA explains. 548 00:29:28,599 --> 00:29:31,299 {\an8}A lot of child abuse gets reported through our schools. 549 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,435 {\an8}Teachers and school administrators are mandated reporters. 550 00:29:35,519 --> 00:29:39,675 {\an8}So, you know, if a child comes to school with bruises or emaciated, 551 00:29:39,759 --> 00:29:42,109 {\an8}that is a very common way that it gets reported. 552 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,916 Right. Because the fact is, teachers serve multiple functions at school 553 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,235 in addition to education: they watch out for signs of abuse, 554 00:29:49,319 --> 00:29:50,836 they chaperone school events, 555 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,916 and they pretend not to know why Ellie won't sit next to Rachel, 556 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,755 Rachel won't sit next to Kelsey, Kelsey's not talking to Ethan 557 00:29:56,839 --> 00:30:00,035 even though Ethan's having a birthday party with Kelsey's brother, Bryce, 558 00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:02,755 who just happens to be Rachel's boyfriend since last period. 559 00:30:02,839 --> 00:30:05,836 And they do all of that while also trying to teach long division. 560 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,400 Teachers are superheroes who should make a million dollars a year. 561 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,079 So, you can probably see, 562 00:30:12,519 --> 00:30:16,480 the fact that it is possible to pull a kid out of school, 563 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,680 with no questions asked or follow-ups allowed, 564 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,955 could easily be exploited by abusive parents, 565 00:30:23,039 --> 00:30:27,440 especially as most states don't screen homeschool parents for red flags. 566 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,475 "48 states have no background-check process 567 00:30:31,559 --> 00:30:33,235 for parents who choose to homeschool." 568 00:30:33,319 --> 00:30:37,200 Even if you have a prior conviction of a crime against a child, 569 00:30:37,519 --> 00:30:38,995 you can homeschool them. 570 00:30:39,079 --> 00:30:41,596 A study done in Connecticut found that of the 380 students 571 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,116 withdrawn in six districts to be homeschooled, 572 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,356 138 lived in families that were the subject 573 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,200 of at least one prior report of suspected abuse or neglect. 574 00:30:51,559 --> 00:30:55,235 And yet, despite this, at every turn, 575 00:30:55,319 --> 00:30:59,839 HSLDA has vigorously fought efforts to put any guardrails in place. 576 00:31:00,359 --> 00:31:02,515 Here is their then-president, in 2015, 577 00:31:02,599 --> 00:31:05,156 explaining why they fight all regulations, 578 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,359 even ones explicitly designed to prevent child abuse. 579 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,195 {\an8}Child abuse is a parental issue, isn't it ? 580 00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:14,796 {\an8}Any child, whether they be a non-homeschool child, or a parent, 581 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:19,275 {\an8}whether they be a homeschool parent, they can abuse their children. 582 00:31:19,359 --> 00:31:25,480 {\an8}So, why should we for a few invade all of the other innocent parents ? 583 00:31:26,119 --> 00:31:30,396 {\an8}That's prior restraint. It's unconstitutional. Un-American. 584 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:35,599 {\an8}There some categories of regulations around homeschooling 585 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,235 {\an8}that you would support 586 00:31:37,319 --> 00:31:40,079 {\an8}that you don't think of as an invasion or a takeover ? 587 00:31:42,279 --> 00:31:43,880 {\an8}No, not any. 588 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,515 It is bad enough that he's arguing for a total lack of regulation there, 589 00:31:48,599 --> 00:31:51,715 but the fact that he openly licks the corners of his mouth 590 00:31:51,799 --> 00:31:54,359 before doing so somehow makes it worse. 591 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,035 He looks like a cat went to a Zoltar machine 592 00:31:57,119 --> 00:31:59,000 and made a wish to be Andy Griffith. 593 00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:04,156 The HSLDA views any oversight whatsoever as an attack, 594 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,359 even offering members a 24-hour hotline in case of a visit from the state. 595 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,836 Here is the sister of that woman you saw earlier, 596 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,475 explaining how they would practice what to do 597 00:32:14,559 --> 00:32:17,359 if Child Protective Services showed up on their doorstep. 598 00:32:17,759 --> 00:32:19,316 The parent would lock the front door, 599 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,880 would call the Home School Legal Defense Association on the phone, 600 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,796 {\an8}hand the phone out the kitchen window, 601 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,916 {\an8}and us kids were supposed to hide in the basement. 602 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,559 {\an8}We actually did drills on this stuff, folks. 603 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,880 {\an8}We did drills in case someone ever decided to check in on our well-being. 604 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:37,839 Holy shit, that is dark. 605 00:32:38,839 --> 00:32:41,796 Drills are meant for practicing what to do to avoid getting hurt, 606 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,359 not to avoid getting help. 607 00:32:43,839 --> 00:32:46,515 It's why fire alarms say "pull here in case of emergency" 608 00:32:46,599 --> 00:32:48,400 and not "snitches get stitches." 609 00:32:49,559 --> 00:32:51,675 And the thing is, because of its committed membership, 610 00:32:51,759 --> 00:32:55,435 the HSLDA has the power to stop any kind of oversight in its tracks. 611 00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:58,715 Take Raylee's Law, named after an eight-year-old girl in West Virginia 612 00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:02,076 whose father pulled her out of school after he was reported for abuse. 613 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,640 She died of neglect only a few weeks later. 614 00:33:05,079 --> 00:33:07,195 Eventually, legislators proposed a law 615 00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:09,596 that would prevent parents from withdrawing a child from school 616 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,630 {\an8}when there is a pending child abuse or neglect investigation 617 00:33:12,839 --> 00:33:16,235 {\an8}or when a parent has been convicted of domestic violence, 618 00:33:16,319 --> 00:33:17,556 {\an8}child abuse, or neglect. 619 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,740 {\an8}And it seems like that law would be easy to get passed, right ? 620 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,519 {\an8}But as the legislator who proposed it found out, not so much. 621 00:33:25,559 --> 00:33:30,156 {\an8}There are groups I want to say there's like this homeschool defense fund group 622 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,035 that came out against Raylee's Law. 623 00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:33,759 - The HSLDA ? - That's it. 624 00:33:34,079 --> 00:33:37,235 And there were quotes about how awful this bill was 625 00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:39,195 and it's an attack on homeschooling 626 00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:42,076 and they want to move the goal post. 627 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,995 That's what you do in politics, but I thought, maybe, 628 00:33:45,079 --> 00:33:47,759 protecting children, you wouldn't go about that. 629 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,755 Right, and that seems pretty reasonable. 630 00:33:50,839 --> 00:33:52,955 And if the HSLDA thinks trying to protect kids 631 00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:55,955 from being taken out of school by people convicted of child abuse 632 00:33:56,039 --> 00:33:57,755 is an attack on homeschooling, 633 00:33:57,839 --> 00:34:01,876 they're saying quite a bit about what they believe homeschooling to be. 634 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,010 If Chili's responded to a health inspector 635 00:34:04,079 --> 00:34:07,435 writing their workers up for pissing in the skillet queso with 636 00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:10,356 "This is an attack on everything Chili's stands for. 637 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,140 Don't punish the majority of our staff for the minority 638 00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:15,800 who piss and shit in our Presidente Margaritas," 639 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,610 you'd have some questions about what Chili's thinks it stands for. 640 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,316 And for the record, that man's bill never passed. 641 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,800 And that story's been repeated in state after state after state. 642 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,435 As one legislative aide who's gone up against the HSLDA has said 643 00:34:30,519 --> 00:34:33,435 "I've never seen a lobby more powerful and scary". 644 00:34:33,519 --> 00:34:36,236 And a legislator in Arkansas who tangled with them says 645 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,396 "They told me the only legislation they wanted was what Alaska had, 646 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:41,679 which was nothing." 647 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,876 At a certain point, it starts to feel like the HSLDA 648 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,475 is basically the homeschooling equivalent of the NRA, 649 00:34:47,559 --> 00:34:49,796 an extremely powerful organization 650 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,196 that, while it represents a large number of people, 651 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,239 pursues an outermost-fringe version of their agenda. 652 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,756 So, where do we go from here ? 653 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,236 In a perfect world, we'd make sure that homeschooled kids 654 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,035 were both safe and actually receiving a functional education. 655 00:35:05,119 --> 00:35:07,595 There are smaller organizations like this one, 656 00:35:07,679 --> 00:35:09,555 pushing for those sort of changes. 657 00:35:09,639 --> 00:35:13,316 But at the barest minimum, we could require, in all 50 states, 658 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,840 to register a child as homeschooled, 659 00:35:16,159 --> 00:35:18,559 so there's at least a record that they exist. 660 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,679 That is how low the bar is here, at the Earth's core, 661 00:35:23,039 --> 00:35:25,756 which I'm sure, according to at least one homeschooling textbook, 662 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,000 is somewhere between soil and the fiery bowels of Hell. 663 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,955 But beyond that, we could pass some basic child safety protections 664 00:35:35,039 --> 00:35:37,836 to ensure parents can't pull their kids out of school 665 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,716 to escape scrutiny for abuse. 666 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,756 A few years ago, to its credit, Georgia passed a law 667 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,676 that requires parents who pull kids out of school for no reason 668 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,676 to send documentation within 45 days 669 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,396 that they are homeschooling their child, 670 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,716 or proof of attendance at another school. 671 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,115 If they don't do that, they're subject to a follow-up from the state. 672 00:35:56,199 --> 00:36:00,360 Even this Republican Georgia state rep acknowledges that it was needed. 673 00:36:01,039 --> 00:36:05,599 {\an8}If the people in your world that you believe are most protective of you 674 00:36:06,559 --> 00:36:10,199 {\an8}are torturing you or abusing you, who's gonna look out for you ? 675 00:36:10,559 --> 00:36:13,515 {\an8}I don't like government intervention in a lot of things, 676 00:36:13,599 --> 00:36:15,995 {\an8}but the government's the only person I know 677 00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:18,555 {\an8}of that can intervene in this kind of case to save a child. 678 00:36:18,639 --> 00:36:21,519 Yeah, he's right. He's just completely right. 679 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,955 And agreeing with a staunch Republican Georgia state rep 680 00:36:25,039 --> 00:36:28,000 wasn't something I had on my 2023 bingo card. 681 00:36:28,679 --> 00:36:30,756 I've almost got a full bingo by the way, 682 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,290 I'm just waiting on you know who to you know what. 683 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,075 To be clear, I share his ambivalence about government intervention here. 684 00:36:38,159 --> 00:36:42,239 Involving social services and the government in personal situations 685 00:36:42,559 --> 00:36:47,155 poses a risk, especially to those who aren't wealthy and who aren't white. 686 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,796 I don't love the idea 687 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,356 of giving the state room to poke around in people's lives, 688 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,555 or that I think our child protective services system is flawless, no notes. 689 00:36:55,639 --> 00:36:59,840 We're almost definitely gonna be doing a main story on CPS one day. 690 00:37:00,519 --> 00:37:02,716 But it does seem like giving parents 691 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,880 a "get out of all scrutiny free, no questions asked" card 692 00:37:06,199 --> 00:37:07,836 just isn't the answer here. 693 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,159 Because being a parent doesn't automatically make someone moral. 694 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,199 And being with a parent doesn't automatically make a child safe. 695 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,356 And the truth is, a few extra security measures would not hurt 696 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,555 the many parents who homeschool their children responsibly, 697 00:37:22,639 --> 00:37:26,475 but they'd definitely safeguard against those who use "personal liberty" 698 00:37:26,559 --> 00:37:28,995 as an excuse to neglect or harm their kids. 699 00:37:29,079 --> 00:37:31,196 The HSLDA can say all that it wants 700 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,836 that it doesn't support Nazis or child abusers, 701 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:39,119 but the policies that it relentlessly pushes for allow them to thrive. 702 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,115 And basic reforms here shouldn't be remotely controversial, 703 00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:45,800 because after all, this is about child welfare. 704 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,760 This isn't rocket science. It's not home sheep-eye dissection. 705 00:37:51,159 --> 00:37:54,109 Don't Google it, by the way, I cannot emphasize that enough. 706 00:37:54,679 --> 00:37:58,480 All of this is basic common sense. And now, this. 707 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:00,320 And Now: 708 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,679 The Surprising Importance of Emojis on "Divorce Court". 709 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,400 {\an8}I had to have somebody explain it to me because I didn't get it... 710 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:16,320 {\an8}Is a conversation has occurred through emoji and GIF 711 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,199 in which you posted a waterfall, 712 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:24,679 {\an8}which means you're in a state of sexual excitation. 713 00:38:25,119 --> 00:38:27,595 {\an8}Your Honor, she's a talented surfer 714 00:38:27,679 --> 00:38:31,115 who sends my husband eggplant emojis. 715 00:38:31,199 --> 00:38:32,639 Peach emojis ! 716 00:38:33,039 --> 00:38:35,840 Were you sending water splashing emojis ? 717 00:38:36,159 --> 00:38:38,000 {\an8}- To your ex ? - Yes, he was. 718 00:38:38,559 --> 00:38:41,679 {\an8}Did you send a heart-kissing emoji to your "cousin ?" 719 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,396 {\an8}Why would she send you cucumber and eggplant emojis ? 720 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,356 {\an8}- She has a bit of sense of humor. - That ain't funny. 721 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:49,676 {\an8}When you saw the photo, 722 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,960 {\an8}did you think it was appropriate to leave a drooling face emoji ? 723 00:38:53,079 --> 00:38:55,920 {\an8}And why was she saved in your phone as the blueberry ? 724 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:57,400 {\an8}Some... she sweet. 725 00:38:58,199 --> 00:39:00,949 {\an8}So, she cute and sweet. So, you saved it as a blueberry. 726 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,716 It was just the first thing that popped in my mind. 727 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,760 Found texts to a guy with a smiley face 728 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,039 {\an8}with the mouth wide open and a purple thing, like a... 729 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:12,960 {\an8}I mean, smoking gun. 730 00:39:14,199 --> 00:39:15,320 {\an8}That's a smoking gun. 731 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,960 That's our show ! See you next week, good night ! 67479

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