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It has been a busy week. 4 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,359 The ICC put out a warrant for Putin's arrest, 5 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,836 Joe Biden opened up federal lands in Alaska for drilling, 6 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:43,916 despite specifically promising that he wouldn't, 7 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,876 and Trump claimed that he might get arrested next week. 8 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,675 And if you are wondering how he is doing right now, don't worry, 9 00:00:49,759 --> 00:00:53,675 because in this video that he released, directed toward farmers, 10 00:00:53,759 --> 00:00:55,359 it seems like he's doing great. 11 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,759 I made farmers happy and rich again, 12 00:00:59,719 --> 00:01:02,920 and they're doing a fantastic job, and you know what ? 13 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:09,599 Someday, it'll become time for them to leave this beautiful earth, 14 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:15,680 and they'll be able to leave their farm without taxes, to their children. 15 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:21,920 I got rid of the death tax on farms so that when you do pass away 16 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,209 on the assumption that you love your children, 17 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,670 you can leave it to them and they won't have to pay tax. 18 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,480 If you don't love your children so much and there are some people that don't, 19 00:01:33,599 --> 00:01:36,916 and maybe deservedly so, it won't matter 20 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,956 because frankly, you don't have to leave them anything. 21 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:41,640 Thank you very much. Have fun. 22 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,836 He's still got it ! He has still got it ! 23 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,599 And by it, I mean whatever it is that is so deeply wrong with his brain. 24 00:01:50,079 --> 00:01:52,379 Do you know how much you have to hate your kids 25 00:01:52,439 --> 00:01:56,159 to get distracted by that thought in the middle of a political speech ? 26 00:01:56,879 --> 00:01:59,355 "We should have pulled out troops from the region sooner. 27 00:01:59,439 --> 00:02:02,879 Speaking of regretting not pulling out sooner, Don Jr". 28 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,196 And then-and then they shot that with two cameras ! 29 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,319 They cut something out of that, 30 00:02:08,719 --> 00:02:11,840 and given what they kept in, I am dying to know what it was. 31 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,716 And then to stick the landing at the end with "have fun ?" 32 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,159 It's impeccable ! It's all just impeccable. 33 00:02:18,479 --> 00:02:21,795 But this week has been dominated by the continuing fallout 34 00:02:21,879 --> 00:02:23,596 of the collapse of Silicon Valley Bank. 35 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,840 Early Monday, Biden spoke out to try and stem any panic. 36 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,860 {\an8}President Biden sought to assure the country before markets opened. 37 00:02:30,879 --> 00:02:34,400 {\an8}Americans can have confidence that the banking system is safe. 38 00:02:34,759 --> 00:02:37,156 {\an8}The news is welcome relief for Ben Kaufman, 39 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,639 {\an8}founder and CEO of kids' store CAMP. 40 00:02:40,159 --> 00:02:43,355 {\an8}Most of his company's money was in SVB when the bank went under. 41 00:02:43,439 --> 00:02:46,916 {\an8}Desperate to raise cash, his company slashed prices by 40%. 42 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,479 {\an8}We sent out an email with a discount code. The code was "bank run." 43 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:55,036 I see what he's doing there. But if you weren't following the news, 44 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:59,276 getting an email with the discount code "bank run" is pretty alarming. 45 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,635 "Remember that little shop where we got a birthday present for your niece ? 46 00:03:02,719 --> 00:03:07,156 They're offering 70% off with the promo code 'last resort the world is on fire.' 47 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,960 Is everything okay ? Do we need to turn on the news ?" 48 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:12,675 You've probably seen a bunch of explainers this week, 49 00:03:12,759 --> 00:03:14,476 so I won't bore you with every little detail. 50 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,276 But very broadly speaking, SVB had invested a lot of its customers' money 51 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,036 in long-term treasury bonds. 52 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:24,075 But as the Fed sharply raised interest rates, those bonds lost value. 53 00:03:24,159 --> 00:03:26,996 And when the bank sold a lot of its securities at a huge loss, 54 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,555 its customers panicked, and there was a stampede for the exits. 55 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,355 It's essentially a classic story 56 00:03:32,439 --> 00:03:36,075 of a bank doing a lousy job of judging and hedging against risks, 57 00:03:36,159 --> 00:03:39,159 although, if you are Fox News, there is another explanation. 58 00:03:40,039 --> 00:03:42,355 {\an8}Silicon Valley Bank is a woke Biden bank. 59 00:03:42,439 --> 00:03:46,000 {\an8}SVB was California's woke, trendy bank. 60 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,919 {\an8}Here's my concern, this is a woke bank. 61 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,599 {\an8}Did Silicon Valley Bank get woke and go broke ? 62 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,520 What are you talking about ? That is so stupid I'm almost jealous. 63 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,675 Because it must be so very nice for them to be able to automatically 64 00:04:00,759 --> 00:04:04,560 blame everything they don't like or understand on wokeness. 65 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,355 "It rained on my birthday because of critical race theory 66 00:04:07,439 --> 00:04:09,916 and my son called me a bitch because of socialism, 67 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,240 and I was late to work today because of a bunch of pronouns. 68 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,795 I believe these things mind, body, and, soul 69 00:04:15,879 --> 00:04:18,160 and it makes my life monumentally easier." 70 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,636 And the full context for the "woke bank" narrative 71 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,716 is somehow even dumber than you might think. 72 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,315 Basically, Fox grabbed onto some of SVB's diversity initiatives 73 00:04:27,399 --> 00:04:29,995 who tried to spin those into the reason for the collapse, 74 00:04:30,079 --> 00:04:32,875 even though, as one expert in consumer finance pointed out, 75 00:04:32,959 --> 00:04:35,036 "It had nothing to do with it," 76 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,355 adding that trying to tie the two together is like saying, 77 00:04:38,439 --> 00:04:41,120 "Why isn't blue the answer to one plus one ? 78 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,675 It's banking 101. That's what was going on." 79 00:04:44,759 --> 00:04:47,235 And of course it was, hedging against risk 80 00:04:47,319 --> 00:04:49,396 is a foundational lesson of banking, 81 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,916 along with "buy low, sell high" and "wear a fancy suit and tie 82 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,156 so no one can tell you have no idea what the fuck you're doing." 83 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,040 And to be honest, that one is still pretty handy. 84 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:04,875 We will learn more about exactly what happened at SVB in the coming weeks. 85 00:05:04,959 --> 00:05:07,675 But they weren't the only financial institution that went down. 86 00:05:07,759 --> 00:05:11,716 Signature Bank also went under, after a similar run by depositors. 87 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,596 And already, we are learning more than anyone wanted to know 88 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,355 about what was going on inside it, because what you're about to see 89 00:05:17,439 --> 00:05:20,076 may be one of the least consequential decisions they made, 90 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,399 but it was definitely the most embarrassing. 91 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,115 Top executives at Signature Bank play themselves 92 00:05:26,199 --> 00:05:28,795 in a series of wacky promotional videos. 93 00:05:28,879 --> 00:05:31,429 {\an8}Is there a book, "How to Build a Bank for Dummies ?" 94 00:05:31,439 --> 00:05:34,115 The over-the-top videos feature bank employees 95 00:05:34,199 --> 00:05:36,916 in cringeworthy song and dance numbers. 96 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,079 This Signature video is also eerily prophetic. 97 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,240 {\an8}What possible fate will become of our bank 98 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,319 {\an8}other than to diminish and fail ? 99 00:05:48,079 --> 00:05:50,379 {\an8}I happen to know for a fact, that won't happen. 100 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,120 Holy shit ! 101 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,156 In terms of things that have aged badly, 102 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,596 I'd say that this falls somewhere between mid-aughts Gwen Stefani, 103 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,276 my actual body, 104 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,240 and the October 1976 cover of Sesame Street Magazine. 105 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,879 They didn't know ! They didn't know ! I'm assuming, they didn't know. 106 00:06:10,079 --> 00:06:12,875 And again, there is a lot we still have to learn here. 107 00:06:12,959 --> 00:06:16,315 Figures like Elizabeth Warren are pointing to the 2018 law 108 00:06:16,399 --> 00:06:18,636 that rolled back some of the Dodd-Frank Act, 109 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,195 which removed institutions like SVB and Signature, 110 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,276 basically, all but the biggest banks, from the highest level of scrutiny, 111 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,636 like more frequent stress-test requirements. 112 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,516 While some will push back on that, 113 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,636 saying that the rolled-back rules and regulations 114 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,036 couldn't have prevented this week, 115 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,036 and that they already have more than sufficient controls in place, 116 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,560 Warren has a pretty solid response to that. 117 00:06:39,319 --> 00:06:42,995 {\an8}We've had a number of those CEOs on the shows in the last few days, 118 00:06:43,079 --> 00:06:46,720 {\an8}Fifth Third, Schwab, they do their own stress testing. 119 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,036 {\an8}Not everyone was behaving in a risk profile, 120 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,370 {\an8}in a risk manner that Silicon Valley Bank was. 121 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,115 {\an8}I'm sorry. I taught school for many, many years. 122 00:06:57,199 --> 00:06:59,699 {\an8}And I did not let my students do their own testing. 123 00:07:00,079 --> 00:07:03,916 Right. Clearly, banks can't be trusted to self regulate. 124 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,700 That should be incredibly obvious, 125 00:07:05,759 --> 00:07:10,000 like the fact that the sky is blue or Guy Fieri is a generous lover. 126 00:07:10,639 --> 00:07:14,920 Flavortown is a state of mind, and he will make sure that you get there. 127 00:07:16,199 --> 00:07:18,549 And it is not a great sign that an investigation 128 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,476 into whether the Fed was derelict in overseeing SVB 129 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,716 has been entrusted to the Fed. 130 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,555 Overall, it seems like the people in charge of keeping our economy safe 131 00:07:27,639 --> 00:07:32,315 will keep telling us "We can police ourselves, nothing will go wrong." 132 00:07:32,399 --> 00:07:36,120 But if I may quote a former leading man currently looking for work, 133 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,300 {\an8}I happen to know for a fact that won't happen ! 134 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,675 You know what ? This time, I think he might actually be right. 135 00:07:42,759 --> 00:07:43,720 And now, this ! 136 00:07:44,199 --> 00:07:45,360 And Now: 137 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:50,399 For St. Patrick's Day, Local News Did What They Always Fucking Do. 138 00:07:51,199 --> 00:07:53,516 {\an8}Top of the morning to you, happy Friday. 139 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,355 {\an8}Welcome to this Irish edition of "Good Day Marketplace". 140 00:07:56,439 --> 00:07:59,235 {\an8}- I'm Cameron McFontana. - And I am not doing an accent. 141 00:07:59,319 --> 00:08:01,879 Top of the morning to you on this fine Irish day. 142 00:08:02,879 --> 00:08:04,115 All right, let's get to it. 143 00:08:04,199 --> 00:08:07,000 {\an8}- We haven't said it yet. - Top of the morning. 144 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,916 {\an8}Top of the morning to you. 145 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,036 {\an8}6:45 there on St. Patty's Day. Top of the morning to you. 146 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,879 Top of the morning to you. You didn't insult a single person. 147 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,716 {\an8}- Top of the morning to you, lassies. - Top of the morning. 148 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,839 {\an8}- Can you do an Irish accent, Tinley ? - I have no clue. 149 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,600 Pot of gold to y'all there. 150 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,716 {\an8}That was not a very good St. Patty's Day accent. 151 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,396 Green helps you become invisible to leprechauns. 152 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,675 - I didn't know any of that. - You're too tall to be a leprechaun. 153 00:08:34,759 --> 00:08:37,720 - He's even got a fisherman sweater on. - We got this. 154 00:08:38,039 --> 00:08:40,399 You know the lore behind the fisherman sweater. 155 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:45,675 When the seamen would go out, some of them wouldn't come back. 156 00:08:45,759 --> 00:08:49,475 The ships would sink and things like that. 157 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,276 The bodies would wash up, and they would be able to identify the family 158 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:53,835 by the sweater that they were wearing. 159 00:08:53,919 --> 00:08:54,969 By the kind of yarn ? 160 00:08:55,039 --> 00:08:59,519 By the kind of sweater, that's from what I understand. 161 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,675 - Let's bring it back to positive. - So we're gonna bring it back to... 162 00:09:02,759 --> 00:09:05,859 We're bringing it back to positive. Top of the morning to you ! 163 00:09:07,159 --> 00:09:08,200 Moving on. 164 00:09:09,159 --> 00:09:13,236 With it being spring break season, our main story concerns vacations. 165 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,075 A wonderful time to realize that you're in love with someone, 166 00:09:16,159 --> 00:09:18,996 or realize that you are absolutely not. 167 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,475 And be honest, you knew in the TSA line before the flight. 168 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,795 Keep the streaming passwords for as long as you can 169 00:09:24,879 --> 00:09:27,080 but do give back his grandmother's ring. 170 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,715 Specifically, we're going to talk about timeshares. 171 00:09:29,799 --> 00:09:33,356 Some of you might be thinking: "Are you going to tell me that they are a scam ? 172 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,636 Because surely everybody knows that." 173 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,475 And it is true that the sketchiness of timeshare vacations 174 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,879 has been a punch line on TV for years. 175 00:09:41,399 --> 00:09:43,519 You moron, these aren't free vacations. 176 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,276 These are timesharing deals, they're total scams. 177 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,595 These timeshare people, they don't stop until they sell you something. 178 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,799 They prey on the weak and gullible, i.e. you ! 179 00:09:53,159 --> 00:09:57,759 Perhaps you and your yellow friend would like to set up a timeshare plan ? 180 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:59,279 Don't do it, Sandy ! 181 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,240 I won't give in to your timeshare vacation scam ! 182 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,396 Yeah, suspicions about timeshare programs 183 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,236 are so ubiquitous they can get laughs in children's programming. 184 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,955 Obviously, SpongeBob was never going to say yes to a timeshare. 185 00:10:13,039 --> 00:10:15,939 Otherwise they'd have had to change his theme song to this. 186 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:20,876 Who lives in a pineapple under the sea, 187 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,075 except for one week a year when he's in a studio in Key West ? 188 00:10:24,159 --> 00:10:25,960 SpongeBob SquarePants ! 189 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,555 Yeah, still good but doesn't quite have the same ring to it, does it ? 190 00:10:29,639 --> 00:10:31,756 But despite decades of mockery on TV, 191 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,039 timeshares are a much bigger business than you may think. 192 00:10:35,639 --> 00:10:38,116 They're actually an $8.1 billion industry, 193 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:42,756 with nearly ten million households owning one or more types of timeshare. 194 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,116 They can be sold by big hotel chains like Hyatt and Marriott, 195 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,276 as well as companies like Wyndham and Westgate Resorts. 196 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,560 But one of the things that may've obscured their continued growth 197 00:10:52,639 --> 00:10:55,315 is that they're not always called timeshares now. 198 00:10:55,399 --> 00:10:57,036 They've been rebranded 199 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,795 as "vacation clubs" or "vacation ownership plans". 200 00:11:00,879 --> 00:11:02,595 And while traditionally, you'd buy a timeshare 201 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,360 that consisted of one week every year at, say, a condo in Florida, 202 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,715 now companies offer "floating weeks" that can theoretically be used 203 00:11:10,799 --> 00:11:13,715 anytime throughout the year, or "timeshare points", 204 00:11:13,799 --> 00:11:15,396 where you buy points that you can redeem 205 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,075 in a number of resort properties owned by the same company. 206 00:11:18,159 --> 00:11:21,276 But whatever you call timeshares, the people selling them 207 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,320 maintain they are not excellent value, they are actively good for you. 208 00:11:25,759 --> 00:11:27,356 Here is a vice president at Westgate 209 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,720 firing up his sales team in the weirdest possible way. 210 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,519 - Why are we here ? - To save lives ! 211 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,519 To save lives. Those who take the fewest amount of vacations 212 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,919 are most likely to have a heart attack. 213 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,200 You're just like a doctor, a nurse, a fireman, 214 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,639 {\an8}policeman, a lifeguard. 215 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,159 {\an8}They all save lives, and you all do it, too. 216 00:11:54,039 --> 00:11:58,996 Timeshare salespeople save lives just like doctors and nurses ! 217 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,675 That is why, during the initial outbreak of the pandemic, 218 00:12:01,759 --> 00:12:05,555 we New Yorkers would loudly cheer for all the timeshare salespeople 219 00:12:05,639 --> 00:12:07,276 as they came back from work. 220 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,195 We'd do that at 6:00 PM, and then if we still had some energy left, 221 00:12:10,279 --> 00:12:12,356 we'd throw a few claps to hospital workers at 7:00, 222 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:13,916 for whatever they were doing. 223 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,276 But the fact is, timeshares don't save lives, 224 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,919 in fact, in many cases, they can fuck them up. 225 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,516 Because they are incredibly easy to get into, but , as you will see, 226 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:28,195 incredibly hard to get out of, so let's talk about timeshares. 227 00:12:28,279 --> 00:12:31,036 Let's start with the first thing you probably already know about them 228 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,396 that they tend to be sold in person, aggressively, 229 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,475 and while you're already on vacation, 230 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,675 often by suckering people into agonizingly long sales presentations 231 00:12:39,759 --> 00:12:41,359 with the promise of a free gift. 232 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,919 There are so many horror stories out there, 233 00:12:44,279 --> 00:12:47,636 like the woman whose parents were subjected to a seven hour sales pitch 234 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,195 that ended with them spending more than $10,000 on a timeshare, 235 00:12:51,279 --> 00:12:54,675 or the person who signed an agreement following a five-hour presentation, 236 00:12:54,759 --> 00:12:59,036 because, quote, "I'm a diabetic. After five hours, I just gave in. 237 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:00,996 I needed something to eat." 238 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,396 And I do get that. "Listen to a timeshare presentation" 239 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:08,396 is dead last on the list of things that I want to do for five straight hours, 240 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,200 right after "watching 'Avatar: The Way of Water,'" 241 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,795 "telling children their pet hamster was eaten by their other pet hamster 242 00:13:14,879 --> 00:13:17,955 and that neither one ever knew the child in question existed," 243 00:13:18,039 --> 00:13:22,320 and "hearing other people talk about watching 'Avatar: The Way of Water.'" 244 00:13:23,759 --> 00:13:26,399 The problem is, though, once you are in that room, 245 00:13:26,799 --> 00:13:30,396 companies can go to extreme lengths to get you to commit on the spot. 246 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,795 Just watch as that Westgate executive encourages his staff 247 00:13:33,879 --> 00:13:35,799 to stop at nothing to make a sale. 248 00:13:36,639 --> 00:13:39,839 Our number one person in Orlando owns several weeks of timeshare. 249 00:13:39,879 --> 00:13:42,159 You should own at least one week yourselves. 250 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,200 And if you don't, lie and say you do ! 251 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,200 Don't let these people leave here without buying something ! 252 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:54,320 Something ! 253 00:13:54,639 --> 00:13:56,756 I don't know what is more alarming there: 254 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:01,595 that he knew a camera crew was filming, and instructed his sales team to lie, 255 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,715 or that he knew that and willingly wore that shirt. 256 00:14:04,799 --> 00:14:06,919 Because what the fuck is that thing ? 257 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:11,036 It looks like someone ate a Persian rug and then threw up on him. 258 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,159 He looks like the mascot for divorce. 259 00:14:14,039 --> 00:14:18,236 Lying is actually a key strategy for many timeshare salespeople, 260 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,955 they will lie about everything, from the ease of making reservations, 261 00:14:22,039 --> 00:14:24,075 to the total cost of the timeshare. 262 00:14:24,159 --> 00:14:26,116 According to a lawsuit against Wyndham, 263 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:32,000 salespeople even had an acronym, "TAFT" "tell them any frigging thing". 264 00:14:32,399 --> 00:14:35,116 And come on ! At this point, just say "fucking". 265 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,075 'Cause it's one thing to lie, 266 00:14:37,159 --> 00:14:39,475 it's another to do that while talking like a middle schooler 267 00:14:39,559 --> 00:14:42,659 who's in the car with their mom but still trying to sound hard. 268 00:14:43,679 --> 00:14:47,636 But the thing is, lying is basically allowed in this industry. 269 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,475 Many timeshare agreements contain "a clause that absolves the developer 270 00:14:51,559 --> 00:14:54,559 from responsibility for anything sales reps say". 271 00:14:55,159 --> 00:14:59,519 It's often referred to by attorneys as the "salesman's license-to-lie clause." 272 00:14:59,919 --> 00:15:03,475 I get that sales reps bullshit customers constantly. 273 00:15:03,559 --> 00:15:06,356 It happens to me every time a Warby Parker employee tells me 274 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,036 "You look so cool !" 275 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,916 But you wouldn't expect them to be able to lie 276 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,120 about something as objective as how much a thing will cost. 277 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,516 The good news is depending on where you made your purchase, 278 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,879 you can have between three and ten days to rescind your signature. 279 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,756 But, remember, a lot of people sign up for timeshares on vacation, 280 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,795 so that tame-time may expire 281 00:15:27,879 --> 00:15:31,475 before they get home or have a chance to have a lawyer look at the contract. 282 00:15:31,559 --> 00:15:35,320 This would be less of an issue if people loved their timeshares. 283 00:15:35,679 --> 00:15:40,675 But a study found that 85% of timeshare owners regret their purchase. 284 00:15:40,759 --> 00:15:44,876 Which is a rate of regret on par with people who bought teacup pigs 285 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,000 only to realize that teacup pigs don't really exist. 286 00:15:48,679 --> 00:15:50,200 What do exist are baby pigs 287 00:15:50,759 --> 00:15:55,279 that grow into a 90-pound piece of livestock that can suffocate your cat. 288 00:15:56,399 --> 00:16:00,795 Let's talk about why people might regret buying a timeshare. 289 00:16:00,879 --> 00:16:03,919 And the first major reason, unsurprisingly, is cost. 290 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:08,315 The upfront cost for a one week annual timeshare vacation 291 00:16:08,399 --> 00:16:12,399 can average around $24,000, but that is just the beginning. 292 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,715 Because on top of that come other expenses like maintenance fees, 293 00:16:16,799 --> 00:16:20,276 which typically go up every year, and at high-value resorts, 294 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,396 can run from 2,500 to $3,500 per year. 295 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:28,960 And you're on the hook for those costs, whether you use your timeshare or not. 296 00:16:29,279 --> 00:16:31,276 Which actually brings us to another major problem, 297 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:35,276 'cause if what you bought is points or a "floating week plan", 298 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:39,315 you need to book time at your resort, which can be unexpectedly hard. 299 00:16:39,399 --> 00:16:42,639 Listen to this man explain his attempts to book a vacation 300 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,835 at the Westgate timeshare that he bought in Branson, Missouri, 301 00:16:45,919 --> 00:16:47,480 six years earlier. 302 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,876 - The first year... - I call a month in advance. 303 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,759 {\an8}They say "You're calling, you're giving us a very short notice". 304 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,675 Year two, they called six months in advance. 305 00:16:57,759 --> 00:16:59,200 "You're calling too early". 306 00:16:59,679 --> 00:17:04,076 Year three they called two months in advance, but we're told they called too late. 307 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:08,836 "Then you can still go, but we have to charge you like any other person". 308 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,876 So far, the Naseers have spent more than $15,000 309 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,000 for a timeshare they've never spent a single night in. 310 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,590 When the Naseers complained to Westgate, 311 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,636 they were told they would have an easier time using their timeshare 312 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:25,680 if they upgraded to a better plan for an additional $15,000. 313 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:30,076 Yeah, that's not great, is it ? Being asked to pay $15,000 314 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,640 for something that you've only seen in pictures is not a timeshare. 315 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,359 That's an expensive and remarkably niche OnlyFans account. 316 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,955 But Westgate's response is pretty common across the industry, 317 00:17:42,039 --> 00:17:44,275 once you buy a timeshare, the pitch is, 318 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,279 "you really need to upgrade to get the most, or, possibly, anything, 319 00:17:48,599 --> 00:17:49,916 out of your purchase." 320 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,675 And these upgrades are a fundamental part of the business model. 321 00:17:53,759 --> 00:17:57,636 At one investment conference, Marriott stated that every $30,000 322 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,715 spent on the purchase of a new timeshare 323 00:17:59,799 --> 00:18:04,920 should generate an extra 20,000 from upgrades after just five years. 324 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:09,596 It's hardly surprising that companies pressure people to pay for upgrades, 325 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,396 sometimes with the exact same aggressive tactics 326 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,130 that got them to buy the timeshare in the first place. 327 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:19,116 Customers of Wyndham Resorts said that whenever they'd go on vacation, 328 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,275 they'd be forced into so-called "owner update meetings" 329 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,409 where they were then pressured to spend more, like this woman. 330 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:30,759 The 76-year-old widow is deep in debt, owing more than $175,000 331 00:18:31,319 --> 00:18:33,836 after she claims she was repeatedly tricked and harassed 332 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,515 into buying timeshare points. 333 00:18:35,599 --> 00:18:37,316 Folds also claims in her lawsuit Wyndham 334 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,876 sales reps told her things to convince her to buy more points 335 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,480 that ended up not being true. 336 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,160 If I would just sign it, they could lower the interest rates. 337 00:18:46,559 --> 00:18:49,920 - Is that in fact what happened ? - No. No. 338 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,995 She says Wyndham's salespeople also told her the company 339 00:18:53,079 --> 00:18:55,156 would buy back any extra points she didn't use, 340 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,720 and that, too, she later found, wasn't as it had been explained. 341 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,440 - Were you surprised to discover that ? - Very surprised. 342 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:08,359 Not only surprised, you may need to bleep this out, I was mad as hell. 343 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:11,599 She is pissed there. 344 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:13,396 I know "mad as hell" 345 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,400 might not sound that extreme to us delinquents on HBO 346 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,680 but coming from a 76-year-old woman in Tennessee, 347 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,836 that's equivalent of a child screaming "motherfucker" 348 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,235 through a bullhorn at an elementary school. 349 00:19:25,319 --> 00:19:27,079 It's that level of intensity. 350 00:19:28,039 --> 00:19:31,235 So, between fees and the constant pressure to pay for upgrades, 351 00:19:31,319 --> 00:19:34,369 you can see how people might end up regretting their purchase. 352 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,195 Even those who initially enjoyed their timeshare 353 00:19:37,279 --> 00:19:39,235 might end up wanting to get rid of it, 354 00:19:39,319 --> 00:19:41,755 either because they're getting older and not wanting to travel as much, 355 00:19:41,839 --> 00:19:44,639 or they're just getting tired of going to the same place. 356 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,836 The problem is, whatever your reason for wanting to leave a timeshare, 357 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,920 you will soon realize it is very hard to do that. 358 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,356 That is because many agreements contain a "perpetuity clause". 359 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,195 That means that the purchase, as well as all those regular maintenance fees, 360 00:20:00,279 --> 00:20:03,319 are a "non-cancellable lifetime obligation." 361 00:20:04,039 --> 00:20:06,876 Which is ridiculous, a contract for a vacation 362 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,160 shouldn't be harder to get out of than fucking Scientology. 363 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,475 Where's Shelly, by the way ? 364 00:20:12,559 --> 00:20:14,720 I'm sure she's fine, but where is Shelly ? 365 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,035 Some developers claim to have programs 366 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:19,916 where they'll take a timeshare back, 367 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,675 but there is a lot of fine print there, including the fact 368 00:20:22,759 --> 00:20:25,235 that they're often only available at the developer's discretion, 369 00:20:25,319 --> 00:20:27,836 and could involve paying a significant fee, 370 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,596 which sometimes can be equivalent to two years of maintenance fees. 371 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,519 And if the company won't take it back, good luck. 372 00:20:35,079 --> 00:20:38,675 Because "it can be hard, if not impossible, to sell a timeshare". 373 00:20:38,759 --> 00:20:40,396 The resale site Redweek 374 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,200 shows a number of them being sold for literally $0. 375 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,356 And keep that in mind anytime anyone says 376 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,359 that a timeshare is "an investment". 377 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,920 Investments are supposed to gain value. 378 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,876 A timeshare is as sound an investment 379 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,880 as opening a Ghislaine Maxwell themed restaurant. 380 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,319 "Ghisly's ! When you're here, you're in danger !" 381 00:21:03,079 --> 00:21:05,675 And all this actually gets one step worse, 382 00:21:05,759 --> 00:21:09,409 thanks to something that's often framed as a selling point for timeshares. 383 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,755 That's a great feeling to know that our grandchildren when we're not around. 384 00:21:12,839 --> 00:21:15,515 - Yeah, it's passed on to them... - ... Ill be enjoying it. 385 00:21:15,599 --> 00:21:17,099 It will be our legacy to them. 386 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,715 {\an8}Even as we pass on, 387 00:21:19,799 --> 00:21:22,755 {\an8}we can continue to give that to our children. 388 00:21:22,839 --> 00:21:24,955 {\an8}It's a gift that will keep on giving, beyond us. 389 00:21:25,039 --> 00:21:28,596 Now that we have two children, it's kind of exciting that we know 390 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,316 that our credits will never go to waste. 391 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,039 It will still be in our family through our boys. 392 00:21:34,599 --> 00:21:39,116 One of those boys seems happy, but the other one does seem pissed, 393 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:40,755 and much more interested 394 00:21:40,839 --> 00:21:42,955 in the upside-down construction truck that he's holding. 395 00:21:43,039 --> 00:21:45,995 He's right. If there's one thing to take away from this episode, 396 00:21:46,079 --> 00:21:49,955 it's that if you have a choice between a timeshare and an upside-down truck, 397 00:21:50,039 --> 00:21:53,880 take the truck every time, at least you technically own that. 398 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,235 But given everything that you've seen so far, 399 00:21:56,319 --> 00:21:57,715 you won't be surprised to hear 400 00:21:57,799 --> 00:22:01,195 that many people aren't super-keen on inheriting a timeshare. 401 00:22:01,279 --> 00:22:03,515 And while you can technically decline it, 402 00:22:03,599 --> 00:22:07,039 that can be much, much harder to do than you might think. 403 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,599 Walking away does take work. 404 00:22:10,039 --> 00:22:12,596 Namely, you must file a disclaimer of interest 405 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,955 with the court saying that you reject the timeshare. 406 00:22:15,039 --> 00:22:18,596 You only have nine months after the death of your loved one to file it. 407 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,916 And even then, it's not that simple. 408 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,955 When the first person in line rejects the timeshare, 409 00:22:24,039 --> 00:22:26,995 it goes to the next in line and then the next and the next. 410 00:22:27,079 --> 00:22:30,200 Every single person has to file all of that paperwork. 411 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,675 It's true. Every single person. 412 00:22:33,759 --> 00:22:37,916 And timeshare paperwork clearly isn't what grieving families need. 413 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,275 It is pretty upsetting to think that there might genuinely be a market 414 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,275 for sympathy cards that say "I'm sorry for your loss, 415 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,796 but also, move fast if you don't want to get stuck with the fees 416 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,030 on your dead mom's Hilton Head two bedroom." 417 00:22:49,599 --> 00:22:52,636 And all of this brings us to what might be the most surprising thing here: 418 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,275 timeshares are so difficult to get rid of, 419 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,195 a whole separate industry has now cropped up, 420 00:22:58,279 --> 00:23:00,480 known as the timeshare exit industry. 421 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,955 You may have seen ads on TV for them, 422 00:23:03,039 --> 00:23:05,389 {\an8}or upbeat segments on local stations like these, 423 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,116 {\an8}for a company called Timeshare Termination Team, 424 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,500 {\an8}where they can get a pretty strong endorsement. 425 00:23:10,839 --> 00:23:14,599 {\an8}Colorado's timeshare termination team has 100% success rate. 426 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,556 {\an8}Joining us, trusted advisors Brian and Holly Wilbur 427 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:22,119 {\an8}with the first steps you need to take to legally get out of your timeshare. 428 00:23:22,599 --> 00:23:24,356 {\an8}I'll be honest, I know I said this before too, 429 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,119 {\an8}I didn't think this was possible, but it actually is ! 430 00:23:27,559 --> 00:23:29,675 That sounds pretty great, doesn't it ? 431 00:23:29,759 --> 00:23:32,559 The basic pitch of exit companies is, for an upfront fee, 432 00:23:32,599 --> 00:23:36,116 they'll either resell your timeshare or get you out of your contract. 433 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,836 And given how critical they are of the timeshare industry, 434 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,820 you might assume that they are the good guys in this story. 435 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:46,235 Unfortunately, they are very much not, which you probably already suspected 436 00:23:46,319 --> 00:23:49,515 after that woman claimed a 100% success rate. 437 00:23:49,599 --> 00:23:52,876 Because that is one of those phrases that's an automatic red flag, 438 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,916 like "endorsed by Dr. Oz" or "Forbes cover model", 439 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,799 It just immediately raises suspicions. 440 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,715 Also, you should know, while that sure looks like the news, 441 00:24:04,799 --> 00:24:07,675 crucially, it, and all those shows you just saw, 442 00:24:07,759 --> 00:24:09,876 are "sponsored content" programs. 443 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,596 We did a story on them a couple of years ago, 444 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,275 and it's where local stations will allow you to buy your way 445 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,839 into fake segments that look like news, but are in fact, ads. 446 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,636 We actually bought our way onto that exact show, on Denver 7, 447 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,596 to sell a Nazi fuck blanket. 448 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,715 And if you've missed that story, go back and watch the whole thing 449 00:24:27,799 --> 00:24:30,955 because that was one hell of a sentence that's missing 21 minutes of context. 450 00:24:31,039 --> 00:24:34,796 Anyway, as it turns out, Timeshare Termination Team 451 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,916 was even sketchier than our Third Reich fuck fleece, 452 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,195 because not long after that, 453 00:24:41,279 --> 00:24:44,880 Denver seven's actual news team had this story to report. 454 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,119 Debi hired the company in June 2019. 455 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,200 In all, she paid more than $14,000. 456 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,920 {\an8}I signed a two-year contract that ended this last June. 457 00:24:56,759 --> 00:25:00,356 Under the terms of the con, if they don't resolve my issue, 458 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:01,480 I can get a refund. 459 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,596 Two years came and went. That's when she went looking for answers. 460 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,035 And so, I came to see them, and it's empty. 461 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,039 The signs are still up on this office in Greenwood Village. 462 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,839 But there's no employees. The furniture is gone. 463 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,076 First, I'm not sure it was totally necessary 464 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,995 to force her to go back and knock on the glass of a clearly empty office, 465 00:25:24,079 --> 00:25:25,396 but I'm very glad that they did. 466 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,400 But second, that is a 19th century snake oil salesman-level scam. 467 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,116 They just disappeared. One moment they were there, 468 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,475 the next they were suddenly gone with no warning, 469 00:25:34,559 --> 00:25:37,319 like a ghost, or a TV show on HBO Max. 470 00:25:38,759 --> 00:25:41,720 Everything's fine at this company ! Everything's fine ! 471 00:25:44,079 --> 00:25:47,116 And unfortunately, that is by no means a one-off. 472 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,916 As one consumer advocate puts it "I don't like generalizations 473 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:54,515 so I'll say that 99% of them don't do what they say they will, 474 00:25:54,599 --> 00:25:56,475 or worse, are out-and-out scams". 475 00:25:56,559 --> 00:25:59,076 But you know what, I do like generalizations, 476 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,920 so I'm happy to say timeshare exit companies are total bullshit. 477 00:26:03,559 --> 00:26:06,955 A lot have followed the same basic pattern that you just saw: 478 00:26:07,039 --> 00:26:08,389 they charge an upfront fee, 479 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,636 and then either stall indefinitely or fully disappear. 480 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,515 And they are taking advantage of people on a massive scale. 481 00:26:14,599 --> 00:26:16,475 In Missouri, one group of companies 482 00:26:16,559 --> 00:26:17,955 stands accused of deceiving consumers 483 00:26:18,039 --> 00:26:22,839 into paying more than $90 million for exit services that were not delivered. 484 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:24,675 And while that case is still pending, 485 00:26:24,759 --> 00:26:28,275 all of these other companies have gone under in recent years. 486 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,359 I know that these exit companies might seem suspicious to you now, 487 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,275 but they have slick marketing, 488 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,659 and have been endorsed by some supposedly financially savvy people. 489 00:26:38,039 --> 00:26:41,475 In fact, Dave Ramsey, the popular personal-finance guru, 490 00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:44,836 who, to his credit, has been a vocal critic of timeshares, 491 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,000 actually gave one exit company a ringing endorsement. 492 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,390 {\an8}Timeshare Exit Team will get you out of their timeshare. 493 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,740 {\an8}You're going to pay them money to do that. That's what they do. 494 00:26:55,039 --> 00:26:57,475 {\an8}And they charge you upfront and they give you your money-back guarantee 495 00:26:57,559 --> 00:27:00,059 {\an8}if they don't get you out, but they'll get you out. 496 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,195 That sounds trustworthy, doesn't it ? 497 00:27:02,279 --> 00:27:05,995 And why wouldn't you take the word of a man who's look and general vibe 498 00:27:06,079 --> 00:27:10,400 answers the question "what if Billy Joel and Dr. Phil had a kid and it sucked ?" 499 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,515 But not long after that, 500 00:27:13,599 --> 00:27:17,076 the Washington State AG sued Timeshare Exit Team, 501 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,836 claiming, among other things, that the majority of its customers 502 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,035 either did not receive their promised exit, 503 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,876 received one that caused them unanticipated negative financial, 504 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,156 or other consequences, 505 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,836 or received an exit that the customer could've obtained for themselves. 506 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,755 The company eventually shut down, but only after it was forced 507 00:27:32,839 --> 00:27:35,515 to pay $2.6 million in restitution. 508 00:27:35,599 --> 00:27:39,199 And if you're thinking any of that gave Dave Ramsey pause for reflection, 509 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,319 you should know, it did not. 510 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,596 After Inside Edition did a segment covering Timeshare Exit Team's issues 511 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,995 and questioning his endorsement of them, 512 00:27:48,079 --> 00:27:49,720 he pushed back like this. 513 00:27:50,599 --> 00:27:53,836 I didn't know you could buy a story on Inside Edition. 514 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,020 I know you were a tabloid, but I didn't know you were that low. 515 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,275 Or are you just so dumb that you didn't understand 516 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,235 you were on the wrong side of this argument 517 00:28:02,319 --> 00:28:03,819 on the basis of the consumer ? 518 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,900 So, this is why Timeshare's not on the air anymore. 519 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:08,960 Timeshare Exit Team. 520 00:28:09,319 --> 00:28:11,920 But guess who's still on the air ? Me. 521 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:15,359 Me. 522 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:21,119 And I'm sitting in a $300 million paid-for building, 523 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,000 neck-deep in cash, you jerks. 524 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:27,920 Yeah ! 525 00:28:28,319 --> 00:28:31,156 That is champion of the working people, Dave Ramsey, 526 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,636 bragging about being neck-deep in cash to his own viewers, 527 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,916 who got caught up in a scam that he actively promoted. 528 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,920 All while having his hands like this, 529 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,275 a pose used almost exclusively by cartoon super villains 530 00:28:42,359 --> 00:28:43,920 plotting ways to kill Batman. 531 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,515 But the thing is, there is no right side to be on here. 532 00:28:48,599 --> 00:28:53,715 Timeshare companies and timeshare exit companies are both terrible. 533 00:28:53,799 --> 00:28:56,949 One is a shitty business model that's somehow technically legal, 534 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,396 and the other is oftentimes an out-and-out scam, 535 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,316 but neither is good. 536 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,396 And it's very important not to lose sight of the fact 537 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,356 that, beneath all of this, are people who can get victimized, 538 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,000 and in some cases, twice. 539 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,515 If you watch a lot of stories about these companies, 540 00:29:10,599 --> 00:29:13,356 it is heartbreaking just how often the people in them 541 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,680 talk about how ashamed they feel about falling for this. 542 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,680 Nobody in my family knows. Nobody. 543 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,836 Makes you feel bad when you think you've done something this stupid. 544 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,156 When we bought the timeshare which took us to the cleaners 545 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,275 and it just made me feel stupid. 546 00:29:28,359 --> 00:29:31,880 {\an8}It doesn't make me feel good. I think I'm smarter than that. 547 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:33,675 Yeah, I get that. 548 00:29:33,759 --> 00:29:37,876 But to be clear, the shame here should not be on the people who were duped. 549 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,995 It should be on the industries that exploited them, 550 00:29:40,079 --> 00:29:42,675 told them any frigging thing they wanted to, 551 00:29:42,759 --> 00:29:46,720 and abused their understandable desire just to take a fucking break. 552 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,156 So, what can we do here ? 553 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,590 On the off chance that anyone watching right now 554 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,400 is considering a timeshare, don't do it ! 555 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,636 If you know someone considering it, send them this segment. 556 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,796 If you happen to inherit a timeshare, get rid of it as fast as possible. 557 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,475 And if it's too late, and you're stuck with it, 558 00:30:04,559 --> 00:30:08,636 you can try and give it away for $0 online, 559 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,076 but the truth is, you'll only be fucking someone else over then. 560 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,235 Unfortunately, the best option might actually be 561 00:30:14,319 --> 00:30:15,916 to call the timeshare company 562 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,350 and see if there is any chance that they will take it back from you. 563 00:30:19,559 --> 00:30:21,876 As for exit companies, as you have seen, 564 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,235 there's been sporadic legal action against individual companies, 565 00:30:25,319 --> 00:30:28,515 but by and large, it is a whack-a-mole ecosystem, 566 00:30:28,599 --> 00:30:31,356 when one goes down, another one tends to pop right up. 567 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,596 So, the truth is, the best bet right now 568 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,715 seems to be to make sure that we all warn each 569 00:30:36,799 --> 00:30:39,759 other about just how fucked up this whole industry is. 570 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,275 Or, I suppose, we could go another way with it, 571 00:30:43,359 --> 00:30:45,316 and if you can't beat them, join them. 572 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,235 So, joining me now for a special sponsored segment 573 00:30:48,319 --> 00:30:50,755 that she may or may not have paid $3,000 for, 574 00:30:50,839 --> 00:30:53,275 please welcome back to the show my lovely wife, 575 00:30:53,359 --> 00:30:54,720 Wanda Jo Oliver ! 576 00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:07,799 - Hello there, m'Wanda ! - Hello there, m'John ! 577 00:31:08,759 --> 00:31:11,955 Now, Wanda, I understand you have a new timeshare product 578 00:31:12,039 --> 00:31:13,316 that you'd like to share with us. 579 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,400 That's right. I'm here to introduce my new company, Timeshare Exit Squared. 580 00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:23,119 Yes, the world's first-ever timeshare exit company exit company. 581 00:31:24,359 --> 00:31:25,556 Fascinating, Wanda ! 582 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,279 What does Timeshare Exit Squared do exactly ? 583 00:31:28,599 --> 00:31:32,000 Let's say you're stuck in a timeshare 584 00:31:32,359 --> 00:31:34,876 and you go to an exit company to get you out of the contract. 585 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:39,839 That company just took all your money and disappeared without doing a thing ! 586 00:31:40,359 --> 00:31:43,116 Timeshare Exit Squared can free you 587 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,250 from your timeshare exit company and get all your money back ! 588 00:31:47,359 --> 00:31:49,235 That is amazing, Wanda ! 589 00:31:49,319 --> 00:31:54,279 You are truly saving lives, like doctors, nurses, and firefighters. 590 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,880 You are. You are. You are. 591 00:31:58,680 --> 00:31:59,680 You are, Wanda. 592 00:32:00,759 --> 00:32:02,559 I am way better than all them ! 593 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,195 All those people are scum compared to me ! I spit on them. 594 00:32:07,279 --> 00:32:11,235 You spit ? As you should, m'Wanda ! 595 00:32:11,319 --> 00:32:15,839 Tell me, how exactly does Timeshare Exit Squared work ? 596 00:32:16,359 --> 00:32:18,200 It couldn't be easier, m'John. 597 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,599 Simply pay us a quick and easy upfront fee of $20,000, 598 00:32:25,119 --> 00:32:27,920 and within three-to-58 business months... 599 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,316 Your timeshare exit company 600 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,279 will deposit a full refund to your bank account. 601 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,400 Wanda, is that guaranteed ? 602 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,680 It's even better than a guarantee. It's a pinky swear promise ! 603 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,556 I like it. I like that. 604 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,116 That's why Timeshare Exit Squared 605 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:57,116 has over 9.3 billion happy customers and a 200% satisfaction rate. 606 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,755 - A 200%, you said ? - That's right ! 607 00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:03,400 For every Timeshare Exit Squared customer, 608 00:33:03,759 --> 00:33:07,480 another random person is also left satisfied. 609 00:33:08,839 --> 00:33:10,475 Wanda, that is incredible. 610 00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:14,119 I'll be honest, I didn't think this was possible, but it actually is ! 611 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,636 It sure is, depending on your definition of "possible!" 612 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,000 Sure. Sure, that's fair. 613 00:33:20,319 --> 00:33:22,076 And if you run into any problems or delays, 614 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,916 {\an8}just call our hotline at 1-800-Flowers. 615 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,279 {\an8}Nice, nice, yeah. 616 00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:32,035 Or come to the Timeshare Exit Squared offices. 617 00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:34,079 How would someone do that, m'Wanda ? 618 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:40,156 All you have to do is drive up next to the Timeshare Exit Squared van 619 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,279 and scream your 27-digit case number, 620 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,130 and we'll be happy to help with anything you need, 621 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,460 until we cross the border into Nogales, Mexico. 622 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,279 That sounds very reasonable ! 623 00:33:51,599 --> 00:33:53,836 But people should act fast, shouldn't they, m'Wanda ? 624 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,079 That's right, m'John ! 625 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,275 This particular company is only going to exist for the next three days. 626 00:33:59,359 --> 00:34:00,675 Right. Right. 627 00:34:00,759 --> 00:34:02,109 Then we're shutting it down 628 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,876 and starting a new one in the Cayman Islands ! 629 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,796 - Have you ever been ? - I haven't ! 630 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,155 I could sell you one a week a year there for just $50,000. 631 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:10,199 I like it ! 632 00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:13,916 And nobody leaves here without buying something ! 633 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,075 Something ! 634 00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:17,475 She's right. Thank you so much, m'Wanda. 635 00:34:17,559 --> 00:34:19,475 That's our show, thank you so much for watching, 636 00:34:19,559 --> 00:34:22,409 we're off next week, we'll be back after that, good night. 637 00:34:22,599 --> 00:34:24,119 Thank you so much, m'Wanda. 638 00:34:25,079 --> 00:34:26,880 It sounds like a fantastic deal ! 639 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,920 I'm neck deep in cash, you jerks. 640 00:34:38,119 --> 00:34:39,559 {\an8}Adios, amigos ! 58655

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