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- She started and telling
people that I had cancer.
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I was forced to
use a wheelchair.
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- And when we thought we
heard it all, we didn't.
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- I was being sexually abused.
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There was no end in sight.
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- I said, I am concerned this
child has been kidnapped.
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♪ No you can never
take my soul ♪
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(birds chirping)
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- Tomorrow is my parole hearing
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and I don't think
I will sleep at all
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because everything has
led up to this moment
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and it's finally here.
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People have called me a victim.
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They've called me a murderer,
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but there's so much
more under the surface.
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The Gypsy Blanchard
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that first entered
inside this institution,
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she was so, just
naive and scared.
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I didn't go to school.
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I didn't have responsibilities,
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but today, I am
responsible for myself.
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I got my education in prison.
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I wanna show that I
have every capability
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of standing on my own two
feet, and I'm not broken.
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I'm stronger than that.
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I'm a survivor.
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- Dee Dee and Gypsy were living
with Dee Dee's dad and stepmom.
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When Dee Dee left from
Claude and Laura's house,
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she had called me and they
told me they got in an argument
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and not to tell them
where they were.
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They were living in
Slidell, Louisiana,
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which is two hours away
from Golden Meadow.
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- I'm here on a ship
in Rhode Island.
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I work 28 days on the
ship, 28 days at home.
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Bridge, come in, this is Rod.
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- [Sailor] Go ahead.
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- [Rod] I remember when Gypsy
was young, I was gone a lot.
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It was just hard to deal with.
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I mean, I cared
how they survived,
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but they seemed to be fine.
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- I don't think my
mom ever wanted me
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to have a relationship
with my father.
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She told me that he was abusive.
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She said that one night he
picked me up by the neck
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and threw me towards
her across the room.
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That never happened.
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- I didn't know what
she was telling Gypsy.
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That's kind of scary to
think, you know what I mean?
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I didn't know that, but
that was the problem.
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I didn't know that.
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Yeah.
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- Some of these
manipulative behaviors
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that Dee Dee practiced
were probably learned
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in her childhood.
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- Dee Dee was my mom's favorite.
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She enjoyed being
the little princess.
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When Dee Dee was growing up,
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she had like a heart
murmur and my mom kept her
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from a lot of stuff, you know,
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she wouldn't be able
to go play outside.
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And then I'm thinking,
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well maybe that's part of
where Dee Dee had got that
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'cause she was the sick kid.
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- [Gypsy] I thought my
mom was taking care of me.
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But now looking back on it,
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I was not taught certain
things from a very young age.
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My mother and I used
to take baths together.
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We slept in the same bed
together and then I hit puberty
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and I had got my first period.
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I was crying.
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I was freaking out
and she didn't tell me
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about pads or tampons.
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So she told me to use my diapers
while I was on my period.
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- [Producer] So how old
again were you at this point?
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- [Gypsy] I was 13 years old.
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When I came to prison,
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I still never was
taught about a tampon
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and finally this woman
taught me about tampons.
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It was like a whole new
world opened up to me.
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- I think Dee Dee
tried to keep Gypsy
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as young as possible,
as long as possible,
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as a way to control her
and keep her dependent.
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- [Reporter] Breaking news,
Hurricane Katrina intensifies
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into a massive
category five storm.
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- [Gypsy] My mother and I were
living in Slidell, Louisiana,
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when Hurricane Katrina was
about to make landfall.
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(wind blowing)
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- We didn't hear
anything from them.
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We didn't hear where
they was going.
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Kristy just started
looking around
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and calling around and you know,
posting stuff and pictures.
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- We don't know
if they're alive.
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- [Gypsy] My mother and
I stayed at the shelter
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for at least a month and a half
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and when we went back to
the apartment complex,
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there was just nothing
but devastation.
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My mother had talked to a woman
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that was a worker
at the shelter,
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so she had set it up to
where my mother and I
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could be life flighted
to Springfield, Missouri.
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We landed on the rooftop
of St. John's Hospital
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and I just remember
thinking, okay,
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we're at a hospital,
this is normal, you know.
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- Springfield, Missouri
is a really great place,
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particularly for healthcare.
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The first time that I
met Dee Dee and Gypsy,
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Dee Dee was verbally loving
in front of me to Gypsy.
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Physically, there was some
hugging and hand holding
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and those type of
things, nothing unusual.
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- [Gypsy] Before the
appointment, she's like,
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"Now, whenever it comes
to the reflex test,
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make sure you keep
your legs super still."
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And she would put
her arm around me
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and hug my shoulder or
she would squeeze my hand.
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That was the signal to shut up.
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- The way that Gypsy acted,
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wearing princess dresses,
the way she talked,
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the things that she referenced
that she liked to do
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were like a kindergartner.
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- When my mother and
I moved to Missouri,
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I would've been 14 years
old and she was telling me
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that I was 12 years old.
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- Dee Dee was pretty
clear that Gypsy
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had a history of cancer, asthma,
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some sort of muscular disorder.
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- My mother would often tell
other people and tell me
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that I would only have a
life expectancy of seven,
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and then it was 15
and then it was 20.
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I think to some degree
I knew it was a facade.
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However, I didn't know
the malicious intent
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behind the facade.
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- Dee Dee didn't have
the medical records.
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She said they're gone
because it was chaos
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down in New Orleans
right after Katrina.
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So Dee Dee became the sole
place for information.
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Probably the biggest
concern I had
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was just this history of cancer.
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Dee Dee could not give
either the diagnosis
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nor really the length of
treatment that she had been on.
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That was unusual and to
me that was a red flag.
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So the question is,
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at what point do
you trust the parent
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to be accurate with
the information?
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Can I trust what Dee
Dee's telling me?
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- [Phone Operator] You may
start the conversation now.
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- [Gypsy] After
Hurricane Katrina,
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there was actually no part of me
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that felt like it was
going to be difficult
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adjusting to a new
life in Missouri
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because I felt like I didn't
have close family ties.
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My mother had kept me away from
my mother's side of the family
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and my father's
side of the family.
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- After Hurricane Katrina,
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we didn't know if Dee Dee
and Gypsy evacuated anywhere.
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- The local news in New
Orleans was letting people
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post messages and
I had made a post.
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I called it in, you know,
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hi, this is Kristy Blanchard.
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I am looking for Dee
Dee and Gypsy Blanchard.
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This is my phone number.
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Please call me, you know,
and let me know y'all okay.
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- Gypsy calls me Nona
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because she's just like
a grandchild to me.
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We have lots of memories.
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We have pictures, we have
notes that Gypsy wrote to me.
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"I love you very much.
Great big hugs."
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Signed, "Love, Gypsy Rose."
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- Special.
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- Yeah, yeah, I do.
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I met Dee Dee and Gypsy when
our emergency room doctor
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brought them from the Katrina
hurricane to Springfield.
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They stayed at Mercy Hospital
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in our hospitality
house where I worked.
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Gypsy was so friendly,
she could talk to anyone.
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- [Gypsy] Marsha made me feel
like this was a safe place
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because she was just
so nice and welcoming.
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- We were told that her
dad was out of the picture
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'cause he was a bad man
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and obviously that's
not a true statement.
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- [Gypsy] I didn't
know at that time
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that my dad and my stepmom
were looking for me.
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- It was a couple months
before we finally made contact.
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- My phone rang
and it was Dee Dee
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and I started crying
and I answered.
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I'm like, "Are y'all okay?"
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And she's like,
"Yes, we're fine."
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I was like, thank God.
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- Dee Dee said Missouri was nice
and they were gonna stay there.
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I missed Gypsy a lot,
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but I felt like Dee Dee
was doing a great job
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taking care of Gypsy.
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- When Dee Dee and Gypsy
came up from New Orleans
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with no concrete medical
records previously,
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I have to assess the information
that Dee Dee's giving me,
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but she didn't remember
the cancer diagnosis.
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So we tested, and guess what,
the test came back normal.
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We felt like there was
no evidence of cancer.
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Well, maybe she's in remission.
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Then when Dee Dee said she's
got a muscular problem,
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at least from the outset,
it looks like, well,
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maybe she does, she's
in a wheelchair.
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As I examined her,
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there wasn't real obvious things
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that suggested
muscular disorders,
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so I was really frustrated
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and so that's when I referred
Gypsy to see a neurologist.
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- My name is Bernardo
Flasterstein.
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I'm a pediatric neurologist
and I met Gypsy Rose
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after they just had moved
to Springfield, Missouri.
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She came with multiple
medical conditions,
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but Dee Dee was
not willing or able
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to give details about
each one of the diagnosis.
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So I said, let's do new tests.
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We did an MRI of the
spine and the brain.
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When I got the results,
they were all normal.
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Gypsy rose didn't
have cerebral palsy.
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Her muscles are good,
her strength is good,
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and I think that she
should be able to walk.
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This is great news.
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And then I tried to have
her move and stand her up
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and lo and behold she
was able to stand up.
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- [Producer] Dr. Flasterstein
said that your MRI results
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were normal and he said that
he asked you to stand up
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and lo and behold you stood up.
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- [Gypsy] I don't recall
that ever happening.
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I'm not saying he's lying,
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I'm just saying that
I know for damn sure
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if I would've stood
up in any office,
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I would've had my ass chewed
out and that didn't happen.
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- Dee Dee was not
happy and got upset,
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took Gypsy by wheelchair and
she storm out of the room.
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I was sitting
there, I was amazed.
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Already I was suspicious based
on the results of the MRI,
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the imaging studies, that
this is Munchausen by Proxy.
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Been asked many times,
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why didn't I report it
to family services?
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You cannot call family
service for a suspicion.
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You have to have it proven
that her mom is making it up.
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- [Gypsy] You can't
really report suspicions,
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but I feel like why would you
take a chance of being wrong
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when you could be right?
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- Maybe I should have
reported in any case
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and got a negative response.
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I'm sorry that this
happened to her,
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but I'm glad that she can walk,
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that she doesn't have any of
this neurological conditions
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and wish her the best.
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(somber music)
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- One of the hallmarks
of Munchausen's by Proxy
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is they go to one doctor and
they go to another doctor.
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In one instance, Dee Dee
did seek the assistance
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from an ear, nose,
and throat specialist
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for excessive drooling
which is a common problem
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in those with cerebral palsy.
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- [Gypsy] My mom put
Orajel on my mouth,
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it would numb my mouth
and make me drool.
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- Of course, Gypsy did
not have cerebral palsy
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and ultimately had her
salivary glands removed
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and that can have
complications like tooth loss.
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- [Gypsy] After surgery,
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I had more and more
of my teeth removed
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and now I have 16 teeth left.
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Today, my dentures
don't fit in properly
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and I'm not able to get a
new set because I'm in prison
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and they don't do that here.
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The doctors have prescribed
me pain medication
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after the surgery.
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Well, when the pain
medication ran out,
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I was still in pain and my
mother had a prescription
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for Vicodin and so when
she wasn't looking,
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I would just go and take
one or two from her bottle
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and I didn't know what
addiction really was.
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I just knew that
it was a craving
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that's all I could think about.
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I wanted another one.
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(rising dramatic music)
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(gentle music)
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- When I first got to prison,
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I was subjected to a
lot of peer pressure
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and I smoked for about a year.
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I started with vaping and it
became addictive, obviously,
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and then I went
to real cigarettes
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and it led me down some
bad choices that I regret.
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But it was a learning
experience for me
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because I got to
see who I wanna be
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and who I don't wanna be.
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I never told anyone
about this before.
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I first started
taking pain pills
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after I had quite
extensive surgery done.
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I was 16 years old,
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but the craving for the
pain pills continued.
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It was like an escape
from my reality.
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But as my tolerance
started to heighten,
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one or two didn't
get me high anymore
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so I took three and four.
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My mother did start to suspect
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that I was taking her
pain pills behind her back
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and she confronted me about it,
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but I did, of
course, lie to her.
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I still have a lot of
demons to work through.
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(suspenseful orchestral music)
302
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- [Phone Operator] This call
is from a correctional facility
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and may be monitored
and recorded.
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- Hi Gypsy, Dr. John
Fabian, how you doing?
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- [Gypsy] I'm doing
well, how are you?
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- Good, your lawyer contacted
me after your arrest
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and requested that
I evaluate you
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and I wasn't needed because,
you know, you had pled guilty.
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- [Gypsy] Okay.
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(tense music)
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- So what is your coping
process in prison?
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- [Gypsy] In the first couple
years of my incarceration,
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I coped using drugs.
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I think I first started to learn
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that drugs were
available in prison
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when I started seeing
other women get high.
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I tried Suboxone and it
gave me the same high
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as taking pain pills.
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(tense music)
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And instantly I was brought back
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to the addiction that
I had, the pain pills,
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back when I was
living with my mother.
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And then one day,
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one of the women that I owed
$50 to for a bunch of pills,
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she was pressuring
me to get paid.
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And so I called Kristy
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and I told her that
I accidentally broke
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this girl's CD player and if
she could please send $50.
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- We're the type of people,
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if you borrowing some from
somebody and it breaks,
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you gotta pay for it.
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I said, okay, I
said I'll send it.
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- [Gypsy] It had been
eating at me for years
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that I lied to Kristy.
335
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I hated myself and I
hated what I became.
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So I decided to tell Kristy.
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- When Gypsy told
me, I was upset,
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but she told me the truth.
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And that's, to me, at
the end of the day,
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that's what mattered.
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- [Gypsy] I was really happy,
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but I can tell Kristy anything
and I'm clean, I'm sober,
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and I'm not that person anymore.
344
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Nobody knows that I even had
a addiction before prison,
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let alone in prison.
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- Hopefully she stays on
this straight and narrow.
347
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And as far as Gypsy learning
the lies and manipulations
348
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from her mom, I've noticed
that she's learning
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to not repeat that pattern.
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- [Gypsy] We were bonded
by this lie together,
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like we couldn't
escape each other.
352
00:22:52,625 --> 00:22:55,375
- When Dee Dee and Gypsy
came up from New Orleans,
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there were a number of
things that Dee Dee did,
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manipulating the community.
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One was Habitat for Humanity.
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(gentle piano music)
357
00:23:09,458 --> 00:23:12,583
- The house was made
custom to suit her needs.
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Let's include a wheelchair
ramp, let's include bigger,
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let's make this a
home that they could
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really, really call their own.
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- Even though I
knew I could walk,
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I was so happy that I cried
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because all my life, I never
lived in a home that was ours.
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- That house was
essentially an extension
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of the love and care the
community gave to this pair
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but it was all a scam.
367
00:23:48,750 --> 00:23:53,000
- It's so easy to live
here and it's so peaceful.
368
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- I remember my mom had gave
me this little glass house
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and she said this, one
day this will be real
370
00:24:01,500 --> 00:24:04,542
and now it finally is.
371
00:24:04,625 --> 00:24:06,333
Looking back on that interview,
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I was coached before
we had filmed for that.
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And I remember my
mother telling me,
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this is going to be
our happily ever after.
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00:24:15,500 --> 00:24:18,583
Kinda staying with
the fairy tale theme.
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00:24:18,583 --> 00:24:21,000
It just proves
that happy endings
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are not just in fairy
tales, they're real.
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- I would say there
was a lot of enthusiasm
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from, not just my colleagues,
but the community for Gypsy.
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I was Gypsy's pediatrician
for many years.
381
00:24:45,208 --> 00:24:49,458
Over time, my nurse came to
me with three documents,
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and on these three
separate documents,
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she had three
separate birthdays.
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The day and month were the same,
but the year was different.
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00:25:01,875 --> 00:25:04,833
And my nurse said, "I'm
now really concerned."
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(dramatic suspenseful music)
387
00:25:09,625 --> 00:25:12,292
I'm getting chills actually
thinking about this.
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00:25:12,375 --> 00:25:13,708
Sorry, gimme a second.
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- Because it was,
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I'm experiencing the
emotions that I had
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when it was a, oh my gosh,
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there might be something
really bad going on.
393
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- Tomorrow's my parole hearing
394
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and I have imagined it millions
of times in my head already.
395
00:25:46,042 --> 00:25:50,250
If they ask me the big
question that I have heard
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so many times over, why
didn't you just stand up?
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Why didn't you just tell
someone what was going on?
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00:26:02,042 --> 00:26:05,792
And I'm honest with
them and I tell them
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I was scared of my mother.
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00:26:07,542 --> 00:26:09,875
(dramatic music)
401
00:26:13,375 --> 00:26:18,500
- Over time, as I begin to
look at all these diagnoses
402
00:26:18,542 --> 00:26:21,167
and the documents with
the wrong birth dates,
403
00:26:21,208 --> 00:26:23,833
I called the Missouri
Department of Family Services
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00:26:23,875 --> 00:26:27,083
and I said, "I am concerned
this child has been kidnapped."
405
00:26:29,583 --> 00:26:32,042
- I remember DFS
coming to my house,
406
00:26:32,125 --> 00:26:34,542
they kept my mother
in the living room
407
00:26:34,625 --> 00:26:36,500
and they talked to me
alone in my bedroom
408
00:26:36,625 --> 00:26:39,333
and they asked me, did
I have bruises on me?
409
00:26:39,375 --> 00:26:40,417
Can I show them?
410
00:26:40,542 --> 00:26:42,375
"No, I don't."
411
00:26:42,458 --> 00:26:43,708
And they're like,
412
00:26:43,792 --> 00:26:45,042
"Who is that woman in
the other room to you?
413
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Is that your mother?"
414
00:26:46,292 --> 00:26:47,667
And I'm like, "Yes ma'am."
415
00:26:48,625 --> 00:26:51,167
I can hear them
talking to my mom.
416
00:26:51,250 --> 00:26:54,958
They told her to shut
the F up at one point
417
00:26:55,042 --> 00:26:59,542
and it really shook me
up because at this time,
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I was very close with my mother.
419
00:27:01,542 --> 00:27:06,583
I really, truly believed that
she was doing the best by me.
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00:27:08,208 --> 00:27:12,708
DFS workers told my mother
that she needed to obtain
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a real birth certificate for me.
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00:27:16,208 --> 00:27:18,458
She played it off as if
she was just a mother
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who was in a difficult situation
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00:27:21,250 --> 00:27:23,958
and she was trying her best.
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00:27:25,333 --> 00:27:30,125
Eventually they left, but
they didn't follow up.
426
00:27:31,792 --> 00:27:34,667
- I had no clue
what DFS was doing
427
00:27:34,708 --> 00:27:38,125
and I asked Dee Dee
to bring Gypsy in.
428
00:27:39,917 --> 00:27:45,792
I asked, "Has anyone from the
state come and visited you?"
429
00:27:45,875 --> 00:27:48,625
And Dee Dee said,
"Yeah, they did."
430
00:27:48,708 --> 00:27:50,583
And I said, "I want you to
know that I was the one
431
00:27:50,667 --> 00:27:52,292
who called them."
432
00:27:55,708 --> 00:27:58,333
So at that point, I asked
Dee Dee to leave the room
433
00:27:58,417 --> 00:28:00,667
'cause I wanted
to talk to Gypsy.
434
00:28:00,708 --> 00:28:05,167
Dee Dee was a little
hesitant, but she left.
435
00:28:07,833 --> 00:28:11,958
So at this point I said,
"Gypsy, is everything okay?"
436
00:28:12,042 --> 00:28:16,500
I said, "Is there anything
that you want to tell me?
437
00:28:16,542 --> 00:28:17,875
This is a safe place."
438
00:28:17,958 --> 00:28:20,167
(suspenseful music)
439
00:28:21,333 --> 00:28:23,958
And she was like, "No,
everything's fine.
440
00:28:24,042 --> 00:28:26,292
My mom loves me
and I love my mom."
441
00:28:27,958 --> 00:28:30,375
My concerns were not assuaged,
442
00:28:30,458 --> 00:28:33,333
but I felt that I had done
everything that I could do.
443
00:28:36,500 --> 00:28:38,917
- [Gypsy] Could I
be perfectly honest?
444
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,042
How do we know that these
doctors aren't saying all this,
445
00:28:42,125 --> 00:28:46,542
of these accounts of them doing
all the right thing by me,
446
00:28:46,625 --> 00:28:48,708
but I don't recall any of it?
447
00:28:48,792 --> 00:28:51,958
Am I lying or is it that
they're just trying
448
00:28:52,042 --> 00:28:53,458
to cover their own asses?
449
00:29:01,125 --> 00:29:03,083
- I'd say, "I'm
sorry I failed you."
450
00:29:05,875 --> 00:29:08,167
That's what I would say.
451
00:29:08,208 --> 00:29:09,375
I'm really sorry.
452
00:29:13,750 --> 00:29:16,042
I wish I could even
say that I entertained
453
00:29:16,125 --> 00:29:19,250
the diagnosis of Munchausens
by Proxy and dismissed it,
454
00:29:20,917 --> 00:29:23,125
but it didn't enter
into my brain.
455
00:29:25,167 --> 00:29:28,833
- I hold a lot of
complicated emotions
456
00:29:28,917 --> 00:29:32,000
for a lot of people
that could have
457
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,375
said something but didn't.
458
00:29:37,292 --> 00:29:39,875
There's some things I
just don't understand why.
459
00:29:42,833 --> 00:29:46,875
♪ I believed in you
460
00:29:46,875 --> 00:29:49,708
- I don't think everyone
intentionally failed Gypsy.
461
00:29:49,708 --> 00:29:52,792
But it's a combination
and really spearheaded
462
00:29:52,875 --> 00:29:55,750
by how a good a
manipulator Dee Dee is
463
00:29:55,833 --> 00:29:59,500
and how much of a
pathological liar she is.
464
00:29:59,583 --> 00:30:02,000
- [Gypsy] After the DFS visit,
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00:30:02,083 --> 00:30:05,000
my mother became more paranoid
466
00:30:05,083 --> 00:30:09,417
about doctors and
social workers.
467
00:30:13,500 --> 00:30:16,750
♪ You tried to take my freedom
468
00:30:16,833 --> 00:30:20,333
My mom had put
filters on our windows
469
00:30:20,417 --> 00:30:23,708
to kind of black out
anything from being seen
470
00:30:23,792 --> 00:30:26,667
inside the house, but
also kept me from seeing
471
00:30:26,708 --> 00:30:29,042
what's going on outside too.
472
00:30:30,292 --> 00:30:34,125
It felt even more like I was
a prisoner in my own home.
473
00:30:34,208 --> 00:30:37,917
♪ No, you can never
take my soul ♪
474
00:30:44,708 --> 00:30:46,917
(suspenseful music)
475
00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:19,833
With my mother, it was a
hot and cold relationship.
476
00:31:20,917 --> 00:31:25,250
It was either very affectionate
477
00:31:25,333 --> 00:31:29,125
because I was very
submissive and obedient
478
00:31:29,208 --> 00:31:33,500
or I was either rebellious and
I would be punished for it.
479
00:31:34,542 --> 00:31:37,292
After I would do something
that my mom wanted me to do,
480
00:31:37,375 --> 00:31:41,500
we would go to Toys R Us or
she would buy me a new dress
481
00:31:41,583 --> 00:31:46,000
and then the next best thing
was her love and affection.
482
00:31:49,833 --> 00:31:52,542
My mother would
apply for different
483
00:31:52,625 --> 00:31:57,333
wish granting organizations
like Make-a-Wish Foundation
484
00:31:57,375 --> 00:32:00,792
and take me on these
trips to Disney World.
485
00:32:00,875 --> 00:32:03,833
- If I knew there was a Disney
trip coming up or something,
486
00:32:03,917 --> 00:32:05,667
you know, I'll give you
a couple hundred dollars
487
00:32:05,708 --> 00:32:08,167
so she can get some souvenirs
and stuff like that.
488
00:32:14,833 --> 00:32:16,250
(birds chirping)
489
00:32:16,375 --> 00:32:18,000
For her 18th birthday,
when I did call her
490
00:32:18,083 --> 00:32:19,167
and I asked Dee Dee
491
00:32:19,250 --> 00:32:21,833
to tell Gypsy happy
birthday, she's like,
492
00:32:21,917 --> 00:32:23,250
"Ah, don't tell her that."
493
00:32:23,375 --> 00:32:26,708
I'm like, "Why? It's
her 18th birthday."
494
00:32:26,792 --> 00:32:28,792
I mean, she's 18.
495
00:32:28,875 --> 00:32:29,917
It's a big deal.
496
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,583
You know, she doesn't
know she's 18.
497
00:32:33,875 --> 00:32:36,458
Didn't make sense at all.
498
00:32:40,708 --> 00:32:45,083
- [Gypsy] I think that my
mother told me I was turning 14.
499
00:32:45,167 --> 00:32:48,167
I took it at face value
and it almost seeming
500
00:32:48,250 --> 00:32:50,333
like I was aging backwards.
501
00:32:51,542 --> 00:32:54,500
- That was a big red flag
for me when that happened.
502
00:32:54,542 --> 00:32:58,083
So, you know, I pushed
that we go see them.
503
00:33:01,958 --> 00:33:07,250
There had been years,
tried calling them to say,
504
00:33:07,333 --> 00:33:09,667
we're coming and it's
just like radio silence.
505
00:33:09,708 --> 00:33:11,083
Nothing, nothing, nothing.
506
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,833
I felt bad then, and
I still feel bad.
507
00:33:15,875 --> 00:33:17,458
I wish it'd been different.
508
00:33:17,542 --> 00:33:19,500
(somber music)
509
00:33:22,208 --> 00:33:24,250
- [Gypsy] It wasn't
like I missed my dad
510
00:33:24,333 --> 00:33:29,250
in any sort of way because I
thought that he didn't love me.
511
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,500
- In the six years that
we hadn't seen them.
512
00:33:35,625 --> 00:33:38,208
I just thought they were just
living their everyday life.
513
00:33:38,333 --> 00:33:41,833
Going to doctor's
appointments, going on trips.
514
00:33:41,917 --> 00:33:45,000
You know, it breaks my heart
515
00:33:46,375 --> 00:33:51,208
because your kid isn't
supposed to go through that.
516
00:33:55,542 --> 00:34:00,375
- For a very long time, I
didn't have my own friends,
517
00:34:00,458 --> 00:34:04,333
but the daughter of one of the
neighbors couple doors down
518
00:34:04,417 --> 00:34:06,208
was nice to me and
I was nice to her.
519
00:34:06,292 --> 00:34:08,000
So I called her a friend.
520
00:34:10,417 --> 00:34:13,167
I felt this small
bit of jealousy
521
00:34:13,208 --> 00:34:15,167
because she was allowed to
hang out with her friends
522
00:34:15,292 --> 00:34:17,167
and go shopping and
have a boyfriend
523
00:34:17,208 --> 00:34:19,417
and just live her life.
524
00:34:21,458 --> 00:34:24,875
- Gypsy was blossoming
into a adolescent female
525
00:34:24,958 --> 00:34:29,333
with certain sexual
needs and social needs.
526
00:34:29,417 --> 00:34:31,875
She had a need to just
connect with somebody,
527
00:34:31,958 --> 00:34:34,167
have a boyfriend,
go out on a date,
528
00:34:34,208 --> 00:34:37,792
and hopefully without her
mother attached to her.
529
00:34:40,292 --> 00:34:43,542
- My mother had just
started a Facebook profile,
530
00:34:43,542 --> 00:34:46,167
but she never let
me get on Facebook.
531
00:34:47,250 --> 00:34:49,792
At this point my mother had got
532
00:34:49,875 --> 00:34:52,833
the Leukemia and
Lymphoma Society
533
00:34:52,958 --> 00:34:57,167
to gift me a laptop
for Christmas.
534
00:34:58,208 --> 00:35:01,167
My mom thought that I was
looking at the Barbie website,
535
00:35:01,208 --> 00:35:04,958
Disney website, these very
kid oriented websites,
536
00:35:05,042 --> 00:35:06,625
but one of the
first things I did
537
00:35:06,708 --> 00:35:09,583
was make a Facebook
account behind her back.
538
00:35:11,208 --> 00:35:16,167
I started to finally talk
to people and express myself
539
00:35:16,333 --> 00:35:19,500
and find friends of my own.
540
00:35:19,583 --> 00:35:23,333
And I was excited to
have this normal life.
541
00:35:27,958 --> 00:35:32,000
Around this time, my mother
took me to a sci-fi convention
542
00:35:32,083 --> 00:35:33,625
called Vision Con.
543
00:35:35,375 --> 00:35:37,042
- [Photographer] Hey Gypsy.
544
00:35:37,125 --> 00:35:39,833
- And one night
during the convention,
545
00:35:39,875 --> 00:35:44,167
I'm in my wheelchair and
my mother's a few feet away
546
00:35:44,250 --> 00:35:46,250
and this guy bumps into me.
547
00:35:47,958 --> 00:35:51,000
He kind of looked a little
handsome and he's like,
548
00:35:51,042 --> 00:35:54,625
"Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't mean
to bump into you, I'm sorry."
549
00:35:54,708 --> 00:35:57,125
I'm like, "It's no
problem, it's fine."
550
00:35:57,208 --> 00:35:59,208
Then we went our separate ways.
551
00:36:01,750 --> 00:36:06,333
A few days later, he found
my secret Facebook profile.
552
00:36:06,375 --> 00:36:10,375
I accepted his friend
request and his name was Dan.
553
00:36:14,208 --> 00:36:18,500
A lot of it was talking
with him about movies, TV,
554
00:36:18,542 --> 00:36:22,875
music, common interests, but
then there was that part of it
555
00:36:22,958 --> 00:36:25,292
that was kind of
sexually charged.
556
00:36:26,625 --> 00:36:28,083
I thought that it
was a possibility
557
00:36:28,167 --> 00:36:31,417
that he could be the one
that would take me away
558
00:36:31,542 --> 00:36:34,750
from this existence
living with my mother.
559
00:36:34,833 --> 00:36:37,167
I thought, this is my
knight in shining armor.
560
00:36:39,833 --> 00:36:42,625
I found out that I wasn't 15,
561
00:36:42,708 --> 00:36:47,792
that I was actually 19
and I was very shocked.
562
00:36:47,875 --> 00:36:51,542
That's when he tells me
that he was on parole.
563
00:36:51,542 --> 00:36:53,417
I didn't even know
what parole meant.
564
00:36:58,708 --> 00:37:00,833
(pensive music)
565
00:37:02,542 --> 00:37:07,083
- The notions that I had
of love before prison
566
00:37:07,167 --> 00:37:11,417
were that of what I'd
seen in Disney cartoons.
567
00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:14,375
You know, you never see
Prince Charming and Cinderella
568
00:37:14,458 --> 00:37:19,000
fight ever, like everything's
all perfect all the time.
569
00:37:19,083 --> 00:37:22,458
And then I started dating
570
00:37:22,542 --> 00:37:25,333
and then I realized it
wasn't like that. (laughs)
571
00:37:30,625 --> 00:37:34,875
I first met Dan at
a sci-fi convention
572
00:37:34,958 --> 00:37:36,500
called Vision Con.
573
00:37:37,833 --> 00:37:42,792
We would trade messages
back and forth for a while,
574
00:37:42,875 --> 00:37:46,208
and slowly after a few
months I started to tell him
575
00:37:46,292 --> 00:37:49,417
more and more
about my home life.
576
00:37:50,458 --> 00:37:52,208
He was the very first
person that I ever told
577
00:37:52,333 --> 00:37:53,667
that I could walk.
578
00:37:53,708 --> 00:37:55,750
(somber music)
579
00:37:57,625 --> 00:38:01,583
It was a relief to me to be
able to confide in someone
580
00:38:01,667 --> 00:38:03,625
and he seemed really sweet.
581
00:38:07,583 --> 00:38:10,333
The age that my
mother was telling him
582
00:38:10,417 --> 00:38:15,375
was 15 at the time
and he was 36.
583
00:38:17,667 --> 00:38:20,292
And then I started dreaming
about what it would be like
584
00:38:20,375 --> 00:38:22,917
if I was just a
little bit older,
585
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,542
because then I would be legal
to date him if I wanted to.
586
00:38:31,292 --> 00:38:35,750
Then one day, I found
my Medicaid card
587
00:38:35,833 --> 00:38:39,333
and it said that my
birth year was 1991
588
00:38:39,417 --> 00:38:44,792
and she had been claiming
that it was 1995.
589
00:38:47,083 --> 00:38:49,833
I found out that I wasn't 15,
590
00:38:49,917 --> 00:38:56,667
that I was actually 19
and I was very shocked.
591
00:38:58,458 --> 00:39:01,833
At that point, I wish that I
had stood up for myself more
592
00:39:03,042 --> 00:39:05,125
and realizing that
the wheelchair
593
00:39:05,208 --> 00:39:07,292
was also part of a con.
594
00:39:10,792 --> 00:39:15,042
- As long as there were
programs for sick children,
595
00:39:15,042 --> 00:39:17,958
Dee Dee would receive
SSI benefits for that.
596
00:39:19,292 --> 00:39:22,000
So I think it was
very much financial
597
00:39:22,083 --> 00:39:23,708
as well as an emotional thing.
598
00:39:23,792 --> 00:39:28,083
If Gypsy left her, she
would lose her life.
599
00:39:30,958 --> 00:39:33,333
- I told Dan my age
600
00:39:35,542 --> 00:39:37,333
and he's like, "You're
an independent woman.
601
00:39:37,375 --> 00:39:38,875
You could leave."
602
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,500
And I just kept explaining, I
can't, you don't understand,
603
00:39:42,542 --> 00:39:47,042
I can't, my mother
will find me and she,
604
00:39:47,125 --> 00:39:52,250
and he would tell me, "No, no,
I'll make sure to protect you."
605
00:39:52,333 --> 00:39:55,375
And so we created this plan
that I was gonna leave home
606
00:39:55,458 --> 00:39:59,500
and he was going to take
me to his farm in Arkansas.
607
00:40:01,833 --> 00:40:05,375
So one night when my
mother was asleep,
608
00:40:05,458 --> 00:40:09,000
I stole my mother's cell
phone from her purse
609
00:40:09,042 --> 00:40:14,875
and I was texting with Dan and
he sent me a text that said,
610
00:40:14,958 --> 00:40:17,500
"Could tonight be the night
that we run away together?"
611
00:40:18,542 --> 00:40:20,625
And I was like, okay.
612
00:40:24,125 --> 00:40:25,708
I packed a few costumes
613
00:40:25,792 --> 00:40:30,375
'cause I didn't have real
clothes and I had a blonde wig
614
00:40:30,458 --> 00:40:33,583
so no one would recognize me.
615
00:40:33,667 --> 00:40:38,000
I stole my mom's pain
pills and I stole cash.
616
00:40:38,083 --> 00:40:40,083
And I left her a runaway note
617
00:40:40,167 --> 00:40:42,500
so she wouldn't worry about me.
618
00:40:42,583 --> 00:40:47,083
And I told her that
I knew that I was 19
619
00:40:47,167 --> 00:40:51,500
and I wanted to live my own
life as an independent woman.
620
00:40:51,583 --> 00:40:55,042
And I told her that I loved her,
621
00:40:55,125 --> 00:40:59,750
that it was just time for me
to spread my wings and fly
622
00:40:59,875 --> 00:41:01,542
and I left through
the back door.
623
00:41:04,792 --> 00:41:08,542
It was late at night,
it was about 2:00 AM,
624
00:41:10,792 --> 00:41:14,417
and I hitchhike to
his friend's house
625
00:41:16,750 --> 00:41:18,792
and I was excited to see him.
626
00:41:21,917 --> 00:41:25,167
That's when he tells me
that he was on parole
627
00:41:25,250 --> 00:41:26,667
and couldn't leave the state.
628
00:41:29,333 --> 00:41:31,000
I didn't even know
what parole meant.
629
00:41:32,708 --> 00:41:37,208
My first reaction is, oh my
God, she's going to find me.
630
00:41:40,375 --> 00:41:42,333
♪ Try to take my freedom
631
00:41:42,375 --> 00:41:44,708
- She chained me to
the bed and said
632
00:41:44,833 --> 00:41:47,583
that you will never find love.
633
00:41:51,042 --> 00:41:53,208
♪ But you can never
take my soul ♪
634
00:41:53,292 --> 00:41:59,292
About six months ago I met
someone and we started dating.
635
00:41:59,292 --> 00:42:02,000
♪ No, you can never
take my soul ♪
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