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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,208 --> 00:00:09,333 - She started and telling people that I had cancer. 2 00:00:09,417 --> 00:00:11,375 I was forced to use a wheelchair. 3 00:00:13,042 --> 00:00:16,708 - And when we thought we heard it all, we didn't. 4 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,583 - I was being sexually abused. 5 00:00:22,583 --> 00:00:24,250 There was no end in sight. 6 00:00:29,417 --> 00:00:32,375 - I said, I am concerned this child has been kidnapped. 7 00:00:54,458 --> 00:00:58,667 ♪ No you can never take my soul ♪ 8 00:01:03,792 --> 00:01:05,417 (birds chirping) 9 00:01:17,042 --> 00:01:18,542 - Tomorrow is my parole hearing 10 00:01:18,625 --> 00:01:20,792 and I don't think I will sleep at all 11 00:01:22,750 --> 00:01:25,917 because everything has led up to this moment 12 00:01:26,042 --> 00:01:27,833 and it's finally here. 13 00:01:31,083 --> 00:01:33,292 People have called me a victim. 14 00:01:33,375 --> 00:01:35,625 They've called me a murderer, 15 00:01:35,708 --> 00:01:40,542 but there's so much more under the surface. 16 00:01:41,750 --> 00:01:42,875 The Gypsy Blanchard 17 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,583 that first entered inside this institution, 18 00:01:45,667 --> 00:01:49,917 she was so, just naive and scared. 19 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,917 I didn't go to school. 20 00:01:52,042 --> 00:01:54,292 I didn't have responsibilities, 21 00:01:55,458 --> 00:01:59,458 but today, I am responsible for myself. 22 00:02:00,417 --> 00:02:02,333 I got my education in prison. 23 00:02:03,583 --> 00:02:06,375 I wanna show that I have every capability 24 00:02:06,458 --> 00:02:10,250 of standing on my own two feet, and I'm not broken. 25 00:02:10,250 --> 00:02:11,833 I'm stronger than that. 26 00:02:11,917 --> 00:02:13,083 I'm a survivor. 27 00:02:18,333 --> 00:02:21,750 - Dee Dee and Gypsy were living with Dee Dee's dad and stepmom. 28 00:02:22,792 --> 00:02:26,583 When Dee Dee left from Claude and Laura's house, 29 00:02:26,667 --> 00:02:30,000 she had called me and they told me they got in an argument 30 00:02:30,083 --> 00:02:31,792 and not to tell them where they were. 31 00:02:33,625 --> 00:02:36,750 They were living in Slidell, Louisiana, 32 00:02:36,875 --> 00:02:41,583 which is two hours away from Golden Meadow. 33 00:02:46,917 --> 00:02:49,333 - I'm here on a ship in Rhode Island. 34 00:02:49,375 --> 00:02:52,417 I work 28 days on the ship, 28 days at home. 35 00:02:52,500 --> 00:02:54,542 Bridge, come in, this is Rod. 36 00:02:54,667 --> 00:02:56,000 - [Sailor] Go ahead. 37 00:02:57,042 --> 00:03:00,417 - [Rod] I remember when Gypsy was young, I was gone a lot. 38 00:03:02,167 --> 00:03:04,500 It was just hard to deal with. 39 00:03:04,583 --> 00:03:07,792 I mean, I cared how they survived, 40 00:03:09,792 --> 00:03:11,833 but they seemed to be fine. 41 00:03:14,750 --> 00:03:16,458 - I don't think my mom ever wanted me 42 00:03:16,542 --> 00:03:18,417 to have a relationship with my father. 43 00:03:20,500 --> 00:03:22,542 She told me that he was abusive. 44 00:03:24,208 --> 00:03:26,625 She said that one night he picked me up by the neck 45 00:03:27,625 --> 00:03:32,167 and threw me towards her across the room. 46 00:03:34,292 --> 00:03:35,500 That never happened. 47 00:03:38,750 --> 00:03:40,958 - I didn't know what she was telling Gypsy. 48 00:03:42,500 --> 00:03:44,667 That's kind of scary to think, you know what I mean? 49 00:03:44,708 --> 00:03:48,875 I didn't know that, but that was the problem. 50 00:03:48,958 --> 00:03:49,917 I didn't know that. 51 00:03:52,708 --> 00:03:53,708 Yeah. 52 00:04:01,292 --> 00:04:03,375 - Some of these manipulative behaviors 53 00:04:03,458 --> 00:04:06,333 that Dee Dee practiced were probably learned 54 00:04:06,375 --> 00:04:07,625 in her childhood. 55 00:04:09,125 --> 00:04:11,208 - Dee Dee was my mom's favorite. 56 00:04:11,333 --> 00:04:15,667 She enjoyed being the little princess. 57 00:04:17,125 --> 00:04:19,458 When Dee Dee was growing up, 58 00:04:19,542 --> 00:04:23,292 she had like a heart murmur and my mom kept her 59 00:04:23,375 --> 00:04:25,458 from a lot of stuff, you know, 60 00:04:25,542 --> 00:04:28,458 she wouldn't be able to go play outside. 61 00:04:28,542 --> 00:04:29,917 And then I'm thinking, 62 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,000 well maybe that's part of where Dee Dee had got that 63 00:04:33,042 --> 00:04:34,625 'cause she was the sick kid. 64 00:04:40,875 --> 00:04:44,042 - [Gypsy] I thought my mom was taking care of me. 65 00:04:44,167 --> 00:04:46,500 But now looking back on it, 66 00:04:46,625 --> 00:04:52,375 I was not taught certain things from a very young age. 67 00:04:52,458 --> 00:04:54,875 My mother and I used to take baths together. 68 00:04:54,958 --> 00:05:00,667 We slept in the same bed together and then I hit puberty 69 00:05:00,750 --> 00:05:03,875 and I had got my first period. 70 00:05:05,042 --> 00:05:06,333 I was crying. 71 00:05:06,375 --> 00:05:10,167 I was freaking out and she didn't tell me 72 00:05:10,208 --> 00:05:12,667 about pads or tampons. 73 00:05:12,750 --> 00:05:17,792 So she told me to use my diapers while I was on my period. 74 00:05:20,542 --> 00:05:23,000 - [Producer] So how old again were you at this point? 75 00:05:23,125 --> 00:05:24,792 - [Gypsy] I was 13 years old. 76 00:05:27,208 --> 00:05:29,500 When I came to prison, 77 00:05:29,542 --> 00:05:32,333 I still never was taught about a tampon 78 00:05:32,417 --> 00:05:36,500 and finally this woman taught me about tampons. 79 00:05:36,625 --> 00:05:38,833 It was like a whole new world opened up to me. 80 00:05:40,750 --> 00:05:42,958 - I think Dee Dee tried to keep Gypsy 81 00:05:43,042 --> 00:05:45,375 as young as possible, as long as possible, 82 00:05:45,500 --> 00:05:48,625 as a way to control her and keep her dependent. 83 00:05:53,750 --> 00:05:56,750 - [Reporter] Breaking news, Hurricane Katrina intensifies 84 00:05:56,833 --> 00:05:59,208 into a massive category five storm. 85 00:06:00,250 --> 00:06:03,333 - [Gypsy] My mother and I were living in Slidell, Louisiana, 86 00:06:03,417 --> 00:06:07,917 when Hurricane Katrina was about to make landfall. 87 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,542 (wind blowing) 88 00:06:14,708 --> 00:06:16,875 - We didn't hear anything from them. 89 00:06:16,958 --> 00:06:18,833 We didn't hear where they was going. 90 00:06:21,250 --> 00:06:22,750 Kristy just started looking around 91 00:06:22,875 --> 00:06:26,875 and calling around and you know, posting stuff and pictures. 92 00:06:28,208 --> 00:06:29,833 - We don't know if they're alive. 93 00:06:35,292 --> 00:06:37,042 - [Gypsy] My mother and I stayed at the shelter 94 00:06:37,125 --> 00:06:39,375 for at least a month and a half 95 00:06:41,417 --> 00:06:44,833 and when we went back to the apartment complex, 96 00:06:44,917 --> 00:06:48,375 there was just nothing but devastation. 97 00:06:50,042 --> 00:06:52,667 My mother had talked to a woman 98 00:06:52,708 --> 00:06:56,333 that was a worker at the shelter, 99 00:06:56,458 --> 00:06:58,750 so she had set it up to where my mother and I 100 00:06:58,833 --> 00:07:03,167 could be life flighted to Springfield, Missouri. 101 00:07:05,042 --> 00:07:09,208 We landed on the rooftop of St. John's Hospital 102 00:07:09,208 --> 00:07:12,583 and I just remember thinking, okay, 103 00:07:12,667 --> 00:07:16,000 we're at a hospital, this is normal, you know. 104 00:07:22,667 --> 00:07:24,708 - Springfield, Missouri is a really great place, 105 00:07:24,708 --> 00:07:26,500 particularly for healthcare. 106 00:07:28,375 --> 00:07:31,500 The first time that I met Dee Dee and Gypsy, 107 00:07:31,542 --> 00:07:36,083 Dee Dee was verbally loving in front of me to Gypsy. 108 00:07:36,167 --> 00:07:39,333 Physically, there was some hugging and hand holding 109 00:07:39,458 --> 00:07:42,042 and those type of things, nothing unusual. 110 00:07:43,375 --> 00:07:44,917 - [Gypsy] Before the appointment, she's like, 111 00:07:45,042 --> 00:07:47,667 "Now, whenever it comes to the reflex test, 112 00:07:47,750 --> 00:07:50,417 make sure you keep your legs super still." 113 00:07:50,500 --> 00:07:52,833 And she would put her arm around me 114 00:07:52,875 --> 00:07:57,333 and hug my shoulder or she would squeeze my hand. 115 00:07:57,417 --> 00:07:59,833 That was the signal to shut up. 116 00:08:01,583 --> 00:08:03,667 - The way that Gypsy acted, 117 00:08:03,750 --> 00:08:07,458 wearing princess dresses, the way she talked, 118 00:08:07,542 --> 00:08:10,667 the things that she referenced that she liked to do 119 00:08:10,750 --> 00:08:12,583 were like a kindergartner. 120 00:08:14,375 --> 00:08:17,042 - When my mother and I moved to Missouri, 121 00:08:17,125 --> 00:08:20,625 I would've been 14 years old and she was telling me 122 00:08:20,708 --> 00:08:22,958 that I was 12 years old. 123 00:08:25,542 --> 00:08:27,375 - Dee Dee was pretty clear that Gypsy 124 00:08:27,458 --> 00:08:30,542 had a history of cancer, asthma, 125 00:08:30,625 --> 00:08:32,583 some sort of muscular disorder. 126 00:08:33,958 --> 00:08:38,250 - My mother would often tell other people and tell me 127 00:08:38,333 --> 00:08:44,667 that I would only have a life expectancy of seven, 128 00:08:44,792 --> 00:08:48,167 and then it was 15 and then it was 20. 129 00:08:49,833 --> 00:08:52,667 I think to some degree I knew it was a facade. 130 00:08:52,708 --> 00:08:57,167 However, I didn't know the malicious intent 131 00:08:57,250 --> 00:08:58,750 behind the facade. 132 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,042 - Dee Dee didn't have the medical records. 133 00:09:06,542 --> 00:09:09,000 She said they're gone because it was chaos 134 00:09:09,083 --> 00:09:11,458 down in New Orleans right after Katrina. 135 00:09:11,542 --> 00:09:16,792 So Dee Dee became the sole place for information. 136 00:09:17,792 --> 00:09:19,792 Probably the biggest concern I had 137 00:09:19,875 --> 00:09:21,958 was just this history of cancer. 138 00:09:22,042 --> 00:09:25,375 Dee Dee could not give either the diagnosis 139 00:09:25,458 --> 00:09:29,042 nor really the length of treatment that she had been on. 140 00:09:30,625 --> 00:09:33,625 That was unusual and to me that was a red flag. 141 00:09:34,792 --> 00:09:36,333 So the question is, 142 00:09:36,417 --> 00:09:38,583 at what point do you trust the parent 143 00:09:38,583 --> 00:09:41,417 to be accurate with the information? 144 00:09:41,542 --> 00:09:43,750 Can I trust what Dee Dee's telling me? 145 00:09:51,792 --> 00:09:54,417 - [Phone Operator] You may start the conversation now. 146 00:09:54,500 --> 00:09:56,250 - [Gypsy] After Hurricane Katrina, 147 00:09:56,333 --> 00:09:59,708 there was actually no part of me 148 00:09:59,792 --> 00:10:02,667 that felt like it was going to be difficult 149 00:10:02,750 --> 00:10:05,833 adjusting to a new life in Missouri 150 00:10:08,708 --> 00:10:13,583 because I felt like I didn't have close family ties. 151 00:10:15,292 --> 00:10:19,667 My mother had kept me away from my mother's side of the family 152 00:10:19,667 --> 00:10:21,333 and my father's side of the family. 153 00:10:28,208 --> 00:10:29,958 - After Hurricane Katrina, 154 00:10:30,042 --> 00:10:33,042 we didn't know if Dee Dee and Gypsy evacuated anywhere. 155 00:10:34,083 --> 00:10:37,708 - The local news in New Orleans was letting people 156 00:10:37,792 --> 00:10:41,208 post messages and I had made a post. 157 00:10:41,208 --> 00:10:43,875 I called it in, you know, 158 00:10:43,958 --> 00:10:46,125 hi, this is Kristy Blanchard. 159 00:10:46,208 --> 00:10:50,083 I am looking for Dee Dee and Gypsy Blanchard. 160 00:10:50,208 --> 00:10:51,833 This is my phone number. 161 00:10:51,875 --> 00:10:56,000 Please call me, you know, and let me know y'all okay. 162 00:11:03,375 --> 00:11:04,667 - Gypsy calls me Nona 163 00:11:04,708 --> 00:11:08,167 because she's just like a grandchild to me. 164 00:11:08,250 --> 00:11:10,000 We have lots of memories. 165 00:11:12,042 --> 00:11:17,042 We have pictures, we have notes that Gypsy wrote to me. 166 00:11:18,875 --> 00:11:23,000 "I love you very much. Great big hugs." 167 00:11:23,083 --> 00:11:25,125 Signed, "Love, Gypsy Rose." 168 00:11:36,042 --> 00:11:37,333 - Special. 169 00:11:40,375 --> 00:11:42,792 - Yeah, yeah, I do. 170 00:11:45,167 --> 00:11:50,208 I met Dee Dee and Gypsy when our emergency room doctor 171 00:11:50,292 --> 00:11:55,417 brought them from the Katrina hurricane to Springfield. 172 00:11:55,500 --> 00:11:58,833 They stayed at Mercy Hospital 173 00:11:58,917 --> 00:12:02,333 in our hospitality house where I worked. 174 00:12:03,917 --> 00:12:09,833 Gypsy was so friendly, she could talk to anyone. 175 00:12:11,625 --> 00:12:15,833 - [Gypsy] Marsha made me feel like this was a safe place 176 00:12:15,917 --> 00:12:19,250 because she was just so nice and welcoming. 177 00:12:21,042 --> 00:12:24,917 - We were told that her dad was out of the picture 178 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,458 'cause he was a bad man 179 00:12:28,208 --> 00:12:31,208 and obviously that's not a true statement. 180 00:12:33,917 --> 00:12:35,667 - [Gypsy] I didn't know at that time 181 00:12:35,750 --> 00:12:39,375 that my dad and my stepmom were looking for me. 182 00:12:41,958 --> 00:12:45,833 - It was a couple months before we finally made contact. 183 00:12:47,042 --> 00:12:49,667 - My phone rang and it was Dee Dee 184 00:12:49,750 --> 00:12:52,708 and I started crying and I answered. 185 00:12:52,792 --> 00:12:54,500 I'm like, "Are y'all okay?" 186 00:12:54,583 --> 00:12:56,250 And she's like, "Yes, we're fine." 187 00:12:57,542 --> 00:12:59,083 I was like, thank God. 188 00:13:01,250 --> 00:13:05,292 - Dee Dee said Missouri was nice and they were gonna stay there. 189 00:13:07,625 --> 00:13:09,667 I missed Gypsy a lot, 190 00:13:09,750 --> 00:13:11,833 but I felt like Dee Dee was doing a great job 191 00:13:11,875 --> 00:13:13,417 taking care of Gypsy. 192 00:13:20,042 --> 00:13:22,667 - When Dee Dee and Gypsy came up from New Orleans 193 00:13:22,708 --> 00:13:26,333 with no concrete medical records previously, 194 00:13:26,417 --> 00:13:30,042 I have to assess the information that Dee Dee's giving me, 195 00:13:30,125 --> 00:13:34,000 but she didn't remember the cancer diagnosis. 196 00:13:34,125 --> 00:13:38,875 So we tested, and guess what, the test came back normal. 197 00:13:40,417 --> 00:13:43,417 We felt like there was no evidence of cancer. 198 00:13:43,500 --> 00:13:45,000 Well, maybe she's in remission. 199 00:13:45,125 --> 00:13:48,417 Then when Dee Dee said she's got a muscular problem, 200 00:13:48,500 --> 00:13:50,708 at least from the outset, it looks like, well, 201 00:13:50,833 --> 00:13:53,000 maybe she does, she's in a wheelchair. 202 00:13:53,042 --> 00:13:55,042 As I examined her, 203 00:13:55,125 --> 00:13:57,000 there wasn't real obvious things 204 00:13:57,042 --> 00:13:59,458 that suggested muscular disorders, 205 00:13:59,542 --> 00:14:01,333 so I was really frustrated 206 00:14:01,333 --> 00:14:05,917 and so that's when I referred Gypsy to see a neurologist. 207 00:14:08,917 --> 00:14:10,958 - My name is Bernardo Flasterstein. 208 00:14:13,250 --> 00:14:17,875 I'm a pediatric neurologist and I met Gypsy Rose 209 00:14:17,958 --> 00:14:22,875 after they just had moved to Springfield, Missouri. 210 00:14:22,875 --> 00:14:26,083 She came with multiple medical conditions, 211 00:14:26,167 --> 00:14:28,792 but Dee Dee was not willing or able 212 00:14:28,875 --> 00:14:31,500 to give details about each one of the diagnosis. 213 00:14:33,500 --> 00:14:35,500 So I said, let's do new tests. 214 00:14:36,875 --> 00:14:38,917 We did an MRI of the spine and the brain. 215 00:14:41,917 --> 00:14:44,083 When I got the results, they were all normal. 216 00:14:47,958 --> 00:14:50,250 Gypsy rose didn't have cerebral palsy. 217 00:14:50,333 --> 00:14:52,708 Her muscles are good, her strength is good, 218 00:14:52,792 --> 00:14:54,833 and I think that she should be able to walk. 219 00:14:54,917 --> 00:14:56,208 This is great news. 220 00:14:57,458 --> 00:15:00,208 And then I tried to have her move and stand her up 221 00:15:02,083 --> 00:15:04,458 and lo and behold she was able to stand up. 222 00:15:06,042 --> 00:15:08,458 - [Producer] Dr. Flasterstein said that your MRI results 223 00:15:08,542 --> 00:15:12,708 were normal and he said that he asked you to stand up 224 00:15:12,833 --> 00:15:14,542 and lo and behold you stood up. 225 00:15:15,917 --> 00:15:18,125 - [Gypsy] I don't recall that ever happening. 226 00:15:18,208 --> 00:15:20,167 I'm not saying he's lying, 227 00:15:20,250 --> 00:15:22,417 I'm just saying that I know for damn sure 228 00:15:22,500 --> 00:15:25,125 if I would've stood up in any office, 229 00:15:25,208 --> 00:15:29,667 I would've had my ass chewed out and that didn't happen. 230 00:15:29,833 --> 00:15:33,000 - Dee Dee was not happy and got upset, 231 00:15:33,042 --> 00:15:36,333 took Gypsy by wheelchair and she storm out of the room. 232 00:15:36,375 --> 00:15:38,583 I was sitting there, I was amazed. 233 00:15:40,292 --> 00:15:43,167 Already I was suspicious based on the results of the MRI, 234 00:15:43,250 --> 00:15:45,917 the imaging studies, that this is Munchausen by Proxy. 235 00:15:48,083 --> 00:15:49,333 Been asked many times, 236 00:15:49,417 --> 00:15:51,500 why didn't I report it to family services? 237 00:15:51,542 --> 00:15:54,625 You cannot call family service for a suspicion. 238 00:15:54,708 --> 00:15:57,583 You have to have it proven that her mom is making it up. 239 00:15:59,167 --> 00:16:02,083 - [Gypsy] You can't really report suspicions, 240 00:16:02,167 --> 00:16:06,042 but I feel like why would you take a chance of being wrong 241 00:16:06,125 --> 00:16:07,417 when you could be right? 242 00:16:08,375 --> 00:16:10,667 - Maybe I should have reported in any case 243 00:16:10,708 --> 00:16:12,917 and got a negative response. 244 00:16:14,875 --> 00:16:16,917 I'm sorry that this happened to her, 245 00:16:17,042 --> 00:16:19,000 but I'm glad that she can walk, 246 00:16:19,125 --> 00:16:21,958 that she doesn't have any of this neurological conditions 247 00:16:21,958 --> 00:16:23,583 and wish her the best. 248 00:16:23,667 --> 00:16:25,958 (somber music) 249 00:16:32,208 --> 00:16:35,625 - One of the hallmarks of Munchausen's by Proxy 250 00:16:35,625 --> 00:16:38,417 is they go to one doctor and they go to another doctor. 251 00:16:39,458 --> 00:16:41,792 In one instance, Dee Dee did seek the assistance 252 00:16:41,875 --> 00:16:43,542 from an ear, nose, and throat specialist 253 00:16:43,625 --> 00:16:46,292 for excessive drooling which is a common problem 254 00:16:46,292 --> 00:16:48,250 in those with cerebral palsy. 255 00:16:48,333 --> 00:16:51,958 - [Gypsy] My mom put Orajel on my mouth, 256 00:16:52,042 --> 00:16:54,500 it would numb my mouth and make me drool. 257 00:16:54,583 --> 00:16:56,833 - Of course, Gypsy did not have cerebral palsy 258 00:16:56,917 --> 00:16:59,917 and ultimately had her salivary glands removed 259 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,625 and that can have complications like tooth loss. 260 00:17:05,042 --> 00:17:06,458 - [Gypsy] After surgery, 261 00:17:06,542 --> 00:17:09,250 I had more and more of my teeth removed 262 00:17:10,667 --> 00:17:13,125 and now I have 16 teeth left. 263 00:17:14,375 --> 00:17:18,708 Today, my dentures don't fit in properly 264 00:17:19,750 --> 00:17:24,000 and I'm not able to get a new set because I'm in prison 265 00:17:24,083 --> 00:17:25,417 and they don't do that here. 266 00:17:29,458 --> 00:17:31,167 The doctors have prescribed me pain medication 267 00:17:31,250 --> 00:17:33,167 after the surgery. 268 00:17:33,208 --> 00:17:35,000 Well, when the pain medication ran out, 269 00:17:35,083 --> 00:17:40,042 I was still in pain and my mother had a prescription 270 00:17:40,125 --> 00:17:43,500 for Vicodin and so when she wasn't looking, 271 00:17:43,542 --> 00:17:48,292 I would just go and take one or two from her bottle 272 00:17:50,708 --> 00:17:54,583 and I didn't know what addiction really was. 273 00:17:56,375 --> 00:17:57,875 I just knew that it was a craving 274 00:17:57,958 --> 00:18:00,292 that's all I could think about. 275 00:18:00,375 --> 00:18:01,667 I wanted another one. 276 00:18:01,708 --> 00:18:04,167 (rising dramatic music) 277 00:18:09,667 --> 00:18:11,708 (gentle music) 278 00:18:15,125 --> 00:18:17,125 - When I first got to prison, 279 00:18:17,208 --> 00:18:20,167 I was subjected to a lot of peer pressure 280 00:18:20,250 --> 00:18:23,292 and I smoked for about a year. 281 00:18:23,375 --> 00:18:28,083 I started with vaping and it became addictive, obviously, 282 00:18:28,167 --> 00:18:31,250 and then I went to real cigarettes 283 00:18:31,333 --> 00:18:35,667 and it led me down some bad choices that I regret. 284 00:18:36,708 --> 00:18:39,500 But it was a learning experience for me 285 00:18:39,542 --> 00:18:42,000 because I got to see who I wanna be 286 00:18:42,083 --> 00:18:43,333 and who I don't wanna be. 287 00:18:48,417 --> 00:18:51,625 I never told anyone about this before. 288 00:18:53,375 --> 00:18:56,000 I first started taking pain pills 289 00:18:56,083 --> 00:19:00,333 after I had quite extensive surgery done. 290 00:19:01,583 --> 00:19:04,208 I was 16 years old, 291 00:19:04,208 --> 00:19:08,792 but the craving for the pain pills continued. 292 00:19:10,583 --> 00:19:13,875 It was like an escape from my reality. 293 00:19:15,208 --> 00:19:18,417 But as my tolerance started to heighten, 294 00:19:18,542 --> 00:19:22,000 one or two didn't get me high anymore 295 00:19:22,125 --> 00:19:24,625 so I took three and four. 296 00:19:25,542 --> 00:19:27,625 My mother did start to suspect 297 00:19:27,708 --> 00:19:31,208 that I was taking her pain pills behind her back 298 00:19:31,292 --> 00:19:32,417 and she confronted me about it, 299 00:19:32,500 --> 00:19:34,625 but I did, of course, lie to her. 300 00:19:36,625 --> 00:19:39,208 I still have a lot of demons to work through. 301 00:19:39,292 --> 00:19:42,125 (suspenseful orchestral music) 302 00:19:48,875 --> 00:19:50,542 - [Phone Operator] This call is from a correctional facility 303 00:19:50,625 --> 00:19:53,042 and may be monitored and recorded. 304 00:19:53,125 --> 00:19:55,500 - Hi Gypsy, Dr. John Fabian, how you doing? 305 00:19:55,542 --> 00:19:58,167 - [Gypsy] I'm doing well, how are you? 306 00:19:58,250 --> 00:20:03,875 - Good, your lawyer contacted me after your arrest 307 00:20:03,958 --> 00:20:06,042 and requested that I evaluate you 308 00:20:06,125 --> 00:20:10,167 and I wasn't needed because, you know, you had pled guilty. 309 00:20:10,250 --> 00:20:11,500 - [Gypsy] Okay. 310 00:20:11,583 --> 00:20:13,833 (tense music) 311 00:20:17,292 --> 00:20:22,042 - So what is your coping process in prison? 312 00:20:22,125 --> 00:20:25,125 - [Gypsy] In the first couple years of my incarceration, 313 00:20:25,208 --> 00:20:27,458 I coped using drugs. 314 00:20:31,875 --> 00:20:34,042 I think I first started to learn 315 00:20:34,125 --> 00:20:37,833 that drugs were available in prison 316 00:20:37,875 --> 00:20:40,875 when I started seeing other women get high. 317 00:20:42,292 --> 00:20:46,208 I tried Suboxone and it gave me the same high 318 00:20:46,292 --> 00:20:47,875 as taking pain pills. 319 00:20:50,042 --> 00:20:52,208 (tense music) 320 00:20:52,333 --> 00:20:54,667 And instantly I was brought back 321 00:20:54,792 --> 00:20:58,167 to the addiction that I had, the pain pills, 322 00:20:58,208 --> 00:21:00,208 back when I was living with my mother. 323 00:21:03,958 --> 00:21:05,500 And then one day, 324 00:21:05,583 --> 00:21:11,000 one of the women that I owed $50 to for a bunch of pills, 325 00:21:11,042 --> 00:21:13,333 she was pressuring me to get paid. 326 00:21:14,875 --> 00:21:16,833 And so I called Kristy 327 00:21:16,833 --> 00:21:20,333 and I told her that I accidentally broke 328 00:21:20,417 --> 00:21:25,500 this girl's CD player and if she could please send $50. 329 00:21:26,417 --> 00:21:27,833 - We're the type of people, 330 00:21:27,875 --> 00:21:30,125 if you borrowing some from somebody and it breaks, 331 00:21:30,208 --> 00:21:32,000 you gotta pay for it. 332 00:21:32,083 --> 00:21:34,375 I said, okay, I said I'll send it. 333 00:21:35,708 --> 00:21:38,042 - [Gypsy] It had been eating at me for years 334 00:21:38,125 --> 00:21:39,917 that I lied to Kristy. 335 00:21:41,375 --> 00:21:45,667 I hated myself and I hated what I became. 336 00:21:48,208 --> 00:21:50,250 So I decided to tell Kristy. 337 00:21:54,750 --> 00:21:58,458 - When Gypsy told me, I was upset, 338 00:21:58,542 --> 00:22:00,458 but she told me the truth. 339 00:22:00,542 --> 00:22:02,125 And that's, to me, at the end of the day, 340 00:22:02,208 --> 00:22:03,542 that's what mattered. 341 00:22:04,500 --> 00:22:05,917 - [Gypsy] I was really happy, 342 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:10,625 but I can tell Kristy anything and I'm clean, I'm sober, 343 00:22:10,708 --> 00:22:13,375 and I'm not that person anymore. 344 00:22:14,708 --> 00:22:19,833 Nobody knows that I even had a addiction before prison, 345 00:22:19,917 --> 00:22:21,625 let alone in prison. 346 00:22:22,708 --> 00:22:24,917 - Hopefully she stays on this straight and narrow. 347 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,042 And as far as Gypsy learning the lies and manipulations 348 00:22:29,125 --> 00:22:34,167 from her mom, I've noticed that she's learning 349 00:22:34,250 --> 00:22:38,583 to not repeat that pattern. 350 00:22:40,417 --> 00:22:44,250 - [Gypsy] We were bonded by this lie together, 351 00:22:44,375 --> 00:22:45,958 like we couldn't escape each other. 352 00:22:52,625 --> 00:22:55,375 - When Dee Dee and Gypsy came up from New Orleans, 353 00:22:55,458 --> 00:22:57,917 there were a number of things that Dee Dee did, 354 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,333 manipulating the community. 355 00:23:00,458 --> 00:23:02,333 One was Habitat for Humanity. 356 00:23:03,833 --> 00:23:05,875 (gentle piano music) 357 00:23:09,458 --> 00:23:12,583 - The house was made custom to suit her needs. 358 00:23:12,667 --> 00:23:15,250 Let's include a wheelchair ramp, let's include bigger, 359 00:23:15,333 --> 00:23:18,500 let's make this a home that they could 360 00:23:18,583 --> 00:23:21,625 really, really call their own. 361 00:23:24,208 --> 00:23:26,000 - Even though I knew I could walk, 362 00:23:26,083 --> 00:23:28,750 I was so happy that I cried 363 00:23:30,792 --> 00:23:35,750 because all my life, I never lived in a home that was ours. 364 00:23:36,875 --> 00:23:41,458 - That house was essentially an extension 365 00:23:41,542 --> 00:23:45,875 of the love and care the community gave to this pair 366 00:23:45,958 --> 00:23:47,500 but it was all a scam. 367 00:23:48,750 --> 00:23:53,000 - It's so easy to live here and it's so peaceful. 368 00:23:53,042 --> 00:23:58,500 - I remember my mom had gave me this little glass house 369 00:23:58,542 --> 00:24:01,417 and she said this, one day this will be real 370 00:24:01,500 --> 00:24:04,542 and now it finally is. 371 00:24:04,625 --> 00:24:06,333 Looking back on that interview, 372 00:24:06,375 --> 00:24:10,333 I was coached before we had filmed for that. 373 00:24:10,375 --> 00:24:12,250 And I remember my mother telling me, 374 00:24:12,375 --> 00:24:15,417 this is going to be our happily ever after. 375 00:24:15,500 --> 00:24:18,583 Kinda staying with the fairy tale theme. 376 00:24:18,583 --> 00:24:21,000 It just proves that happy endings 377 00:24:21,042 --> 00:24:24,708 are not just in fairy tales, they're real. 378 00:24:32,042 --> 00:24:34,875 - I would say there was a lot of enthusiasm 379 00:24:34,958 --> 00:24:39,833 from, not just my colleagues, but the community for Gypsy. 380 00:24:41,542 --> 00:24:44,167 I was Gypsy's pediatrician for many years. 381 00:24:45,208 --> 00:24:49,458 Over time, my nurse came to me with three documents, 382 00:24:50,708 --> 00:24:53,583 and on these three separate documents, 383 00:24:53,667 --> 00:24:55,708 she had three separate birthdays. 384 00:24:57,750 --> 00:25:01,792 The day and month were the same, but the year was different. 385 00:25:01,875 --> 00:25:04,833 And my nurse said, "I'm now really concerned." 386 00:25:06,083 --> 00:25:08,208 (dramatic suspenseful music) 387 00:25:09,625 --> 00:25:12,292 I'm getting chills actually thinking about this. 388 00:25:12,375 --> 00:25:13,708 Sorry, gimme a second. 389 00:25:17,292 --> 00:25:18,750 - Because it was, 390 00:25:20,542 --> 00:25:24,542 I'm experiencing the emotions that I had 391 00:25:24,625 --> 00:25:26,042 when it was a, oh my gosh, 392 00:25:26,125 --> 00:25:28,500 there might be something really bad going on. 393 00:25:36,542 --> 00:25:38,292 - Tomorrow's my parole hearing 394 00:25:38,375 --> 00:25:45,958 and I have imagined it millions of times in my head already. 395 00:25:46,042 --> 00:25:50,250 If they ask me the big question that I have heard 396 00:25:50,333 --> 00:25:56,583 so many times over, why didn't you just stand up? 397 00:25:56,708 --> 00:26:00,042 Why didn't you just tell someone what was going on? 398 00:26:02,042 --> 00:26:05,792 And I'm honest with them and I tell them 399 00:26:05,875 --> 00:26:07,500 I was scared of my mother. 400 00:26:07,542 --> 00:26:09,875 (dramatic music) 401 00:26:13,375 --> 00:26:18,500 - Over time, as I begin to look at all these diagnoses 402 00:26:18,542 --> 00:26:21,167 and the documents with the wrong birth dates, 403 00:26:21,208 --> 00:26:23,833 I called the Missouri Department of Family Services 404 00:26:23,875 --> 00:26:27,083 and I said, "I am concerned this child has been kidnapped." 405 00:26:29,583 --> 00:26:32,042 - I remember DFS coming to my house, 406 00:26:32,125 --> 00:26:34,542 they kept my mother in the living room 407 00:26:34,625 --> 00:26:36,500 and they talked to me alone in my bedroom 408 00:26:36,625 --> 00:26:39,333 and they asked me, did I have bruises on me? 409 00:26:39,375 --> 00:26:40,417 Can I show them? 410 00:26:40,542 --> 00:26:42,375 "No, I don't." 411 00:26:42,458 --> 00:26:43,708 And they're like, 412 00:26:43,792 --> 00:26:45,042 "Who is that woman in the other room to you? 413 00:26:45,125 --> 00:26:46,167 Is that your mother?" 414 00:26:46,292 --> 00:26:47,667 And I'm like, "Yes ma'am." 415 00:26:48,625 --> 00:26:51,167 I can hear them talking to my mom. 416 00:26:51,250 --> 00:26:54,958 They told her to shut the F up at one point 417 00:26:55,042 --> 00:26:59,542 and it really shook me up because at this time, 418 00:26:59,625 --> 00:27:01,458 I was very close with my mother. 419 00:27:01,542 --> 00:27:06,583 I really, truly believed that she was doing the best by me. 420 00:27:08,208 --> 00:27:12,708 DFS workers told my mother that she needed to obtain 421 00:27:12,792 --> 00:27:15,042 a real birth certificate for me. 422 00:27:16,208 --> 00:27:18,458 She played it off as if she was just a mother 423 00:27:18,542 --> 00:27:21,167 who was in a difficult situation 424 00:27:21,250 --> 00:27:23,958 and she was trying her best. 425 00:27:25,333 --> 00:27:30,125 Eventually they left, but they didn't follow up. 426 00:27:31,792 --> 00:27:34,667 - I had no clue what DFS was doing 427 00:27:34,708 --> 00:27:38,125 and I asked Dee Dee to bring Gypsy in. 428 00:27:39,917 --> 00:27:45,792 I asked, "Has anyone from the state come and visited you?" 429 00:27:45,875 --> 00:27:48,625 And Dee Dee said, "Yeah, they did." 430 00:27:48,708 --> 00:27:50,583 And I said, "I want you to know that I was the one 431 00:27:50,667 --> 00:27:52,292 who called them." 432 00:27:55,708 --> 00:27:58,333 So at that point, I asked Dee Dee to leave the room 433 00:27:58,417 --> 00:28:00,667 'cause I wanted to talk to Gypsy. 434 00:28:00,708 --> 00:28:05,167 Dee Dee was a little hesitant, but she left. 435 00:28:07,833 --> 00:28:11,958 So at this point I said, "Gypsy, is everything okay?" 436 00:28:12,042 --> 00:28:16,500 I said, "Is there anything that you want to tell me? 437 00:28:16,542 --> 00:28:17,875 This is a safe place." 438 00:28:17,958 --> 00:28:20,167 (suspenseful music) 439 00:28:21,333 --> 00:28:23,958 And she was like, "No, everything's fine. 440 00:28:24,042 --> 00:28:26,292 My mom loves me and I love my mom." 441 00:28:27,958 --> 00:28:30,375 My concerns were not assuaged, 442 00:28:30,458 --> 00:28:33,333 but I felt that I had done everything that I could do. 443 00:28:36,500 --> 00:28:38,917 - [Gypsy] Could I be perfectly honest? 444 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,042 How do we know that these doctors aren't saying all this, 445 00:28:42,125 --> 00:28:46,542 of these accounts of them doing all the right thing by me, 446 00:28:46,625 --> 00:28:48,708 but I don't recall any of it? 447 00:28:48,792 --> 00:28:51,958 Am I lying or is it that they're just trying 448 00:28:52,042 --> 00:28:53,458 to cover their own asses? 449 00:29:01,125 --> 00:29:03,083 - I'd say, "I'm sorry I failed you." 450 00:29:05,875 --> 00:29:08,167 That's what I would say. 451 00:29:08,208 --> 00:29:09,375 I'm really sorry. 452 00:29:13,750 --> 00:29:16,042 I wish I could even say that I entertained 453 00:29:16,125 --> 00:29:19,250 the diagnosis of Munchausens by Proxy and dismissed it, 454 00:29:20,917 --> 00:29:23,125 but it didn't enter into my brain. 455 00:29:25,167 --> 00:29:28,833 - I hold a lot of complicated emotions 456 00:29:28,917 --> 00:29:32,000 for a lot of people that could have 457 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,375 said something but didn't. 458 00:29:37,292 --> 00:29:39,875 There's some things I just don't understand why. 459 00:29:42,833 --> 00:29:46,875 ♪ I believed in you 460 00:29:46,875 --> 00:29:49,708 - I don't think everyone intentionally failed Gypsy. 461 00:29:49,708 --> 00:29:52,792 But it's a combination and really spearheaded 462 00:29:52,875 --> 00:29:55,750 by how a good a manipulator Dee Dee is 463 00:29:55,833 --> 00:29:59,500 and how much of a pathological liar she is. 464 00:29:59,583 --> 00:30:02,000 - [Gypsy] After the DFS visit, 465 00:30:02,083 --> 00:30:05,000 my mother became more paranoid 466 00:30:05,083 --> 00:30:09,417 about doctors and social workers. 467 00:30:13,500 --> 00:30:16,750 ♪ You tried to take my freedom 468 00:30:16,833 --> 00:30:20,333 My mom had put filters on our windows 469 00:30:20,417 --> 00:30:23,708 to kind of black out anything from being seen 470 00:30:23,792 --> 00:30:26,667 inside the house, but also kept me from seeing 471 00:30:26,708 --> 00:30:29,042 what's going on outside too. 472 00:30:30,292 --> 00:30:34,125 It felt even more like I was a prisoner in my own home. 473 00:30:34,208 --> 00:30:37,917 ♪ No, you can never take my soul ♪ 474 00:30:44,708 --> 00:30:46,917 (suspenseful music) 475 00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:19,833 With my mother, it was a hot and cold relationship. 476 00:31:20,917 --> 00:31:25,250 It was either very affectionate 477 00:31:25,333 --> 00:31:29,125 because I was very submissive and obedient 478 00:31:29,208 --> 00:31:33,500 or I was either rebellious and I would be punished for it. 479 00:31:34,542 --> 00:31:37,292 After I would do something that my mom wanted me to do, 480 00:31:37,375 --> 00:31:41,500 we would go to Toys R Us or she would buy me a new dress 481 00:31:41,583 --> 00:31:46,000 and then the next best thing was her love and affection. 482 00:31:49,833 --> 00:31:52,542 My mother would apply for different 483 00:31:52,625 --> 00:31:57,333 wish granting organizations like Make-a-Wish Foundation 484 00:31:57,375 --> 00:32:00,792 and take me on these trips to Disney World. 485 00:32:00,875 --> 00:32:03,833 - If I knew there was a Disney trip coming up or something, 486 00:32:03,917 --> 00:32:05,667 you know, I'll give you a couple hundred dollars 487 00:32:05,708 --> 00:32:08,167 so she can get some souvenirs and stuff like that. 488 00:32:14,833 --> 00:32:16,250 (birds chirping) 489 00:32:16,375 --> 00:32:18,000 For her 18th birthday, when I did call her 490 00:32:18,083 --> 00:32:19,167 and I asked Dee Dee 491 00:32:19,250 --> 00:32:21,833 to tell Gypsy happy birthday, she's like, 492 00:32:21,917 --> 00:32:23,250 "Ah, don't tell her that." 493 00:32:23,375 --> 00:32:26,708 I'm like, "Why? It's her 18th birthday." 494 00:32:26,792 --> 00:32:28,792 I mean, she's 18. 495 00:32:28,875 --> 00:32:29,917 It's a big deal. 496 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,583 You know, she doesn't know she's 18. 497 00:32:33,875 --> 00:32:36,458 Didn't make sense at all. 498 00:32:40,708 --> 00:32:45,083 - [Gypsy] I think that my mother told me I was turning 14. 499 00:32:45,167 --> 00:32:48,167 I took it at face value and it almost seeming 500 00:32:48,250 --> 00:32:50,333 like I was aging backwards. 501 00:32:51,542 --> 00:32:54,500 - That was a big red flag for me when that happened. 502 00:32:54,542 --> 00:32:58,083 So, you know, I pushed that we go see them. 503 00:33:01,958 --> 00:33:07,250 There had been years, tried calling them to say, 504 00:33:07,333 --> 00:33:09,667 we're coming and it's just like radio silence. 505 00:33:09,708 --> 00:33:11,083 Nothing, nothing, nothing. 506 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,833 I felt bad then, and I still feel bad. 507 00:33:15,875 --> 00:33:17,458 I wish it'd been different. 508 00:33:17,542 --> 00:33:19,500 (somber music) 509 00:33:22,208 --> 00:33:24,250 - [Gypsy] It wasn't like I missed my dad 510 00:33:24,333 --> 00:33:29,250 in any sort of way because I thought that he didn't love me. 511 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,500 - In the six years that we hadn't seen them. 512 00:33:35,625 --> 00:33:38,208 I just thought they were just living their everyday life. 513 00:33:38,333 --> 00:33:41,833 Going to doctor's appointments, going on trips. 514 00:33:41,917 --> 00:33:45,000 You know, it breaks my heart 515 00:33:46,375 --> 00:33:51,208 because your kid isn't supposed to go through that. 516 00:33:55,542 --> 00:34:00,375 - For a very long time, I didn't have my own friends, 517 00:34:00,458 --> 00:34:04,333 but the daughter of one of the neighbors couple doors down 518 00:34:04,417 --> 00:34:06,208 was nice to me and I was nice to her. 519 00:34:06,292 --> 00:34:08,000 So I called her a friend. 520 00:34:10,417 --> 00:34:13,167 I felt this small bit of jealousy 521 00:34:13,208 --> 00:34:15,167 because she was allowed to hang out with her friends 522 00:34:15,292 --> 00:34:17,167 and go shopping and have a boyfriend 523 00:34:17,208 --> 00:34:19,417 and just live her life. 524 00:34:21,458 --> 00:34:24,875 - Gypsy was blossoming into a adolescent female 525 00:34:24,958 --> 00:34:29,333 with certain sexual needs and social needs. 526 00:34:29,417 --> 00:34:31,875 She had a need to just connect with somebody, 527 00:34:31,958 --> 00:34:34,167 have a boyfriend, go out on a date, 528 00:34:34,208 --> 00:34:37,792 and hopefully without her mother attached to her. 529 00:34:40,292 --> 00:34:43,542 - My mother had just started a Facebook profile, 530 00:34:43,542 --> 00:34:46,167 but she never let me get on Facebook. 531 00:34:47,250 --> 00:34:49,792 At this point my mother had got 532 00:34:49,875 --> 00:34:52,833 the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society 533 00:34:52,958 --> 00:34:57,167 to gift me a laptop for Christmas. 534 00:34:58,208 --> 00:35:01,167 My mom thought that I was looking at the Barbie website, 535 00:35:01,208 --> 00:35:04,958 Disney website, these very kid oriented websites, 536 00:35:05,042 --> 00:35:06,625 but one of the first things I did 537 00:35:06,708 --> 00:35:09,583 was make a Facebook account behind her back. 538 00:35:11,208 --> 00:35:16,167 I started to finally talk to people and express myself 539 00:35:16,333 --> 00:35:19,500 and find friends of my own. 540 00:35:19,583 --> 00:35:23,333 And I was excited to have this normal life. 541 00:35:27,958 --> 00:35:32,000 Around this time, my mother took me to a sci-fi convention 542 00:35:32,083 --> 00:35:33,625 called Vision Con. 543 00:35:35,375 --> 00:35:37,042 - [Photographer] Hey Gypsy. 544 00:35:37,125 --> 00:35:39,833 - And one night during the convention, 545 00:35:39,875 --> 00:35:44,167 I'm in my wheelchair and my mother's a few feet away 546 00:35:44,250 --> 00:35:46,250 and this guy bumps into me. 547 00:35:47,958 --> 00:35:51,000 He kind of looked a little handsome and he's like, 548 00:35:51,042 --> 00:35:54,625 "Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to bump into you, I'm sorry." 549 00:35:54,708 --> 00:35:57,125 I'm like, "It's no problem, it's fine." 550 00:35:57,208 --> 00:35:59,208 Then we went our separate ways. 551 00:36:01,750 --> 00:36:06,333 A few days later, he found my secret Facebook profile. 552 00:36:06,375 --> 00:36:10,375 I accepted his friend request and his name was Dan. 553 00:36:14,208 --> 00:36:18,500 A lot of it was talking with him about movies, TV, 554 00:36:18,542 --> 00:36:22,875 music, common interests, but then there was that part of it 555 00:36:22,958 --> 00:36:25,292 that was kind of sexually charged. 556 00:36:26,625 --> 00:36:28,083 I thought that it was a possibility 557 00:36:28,167 --> 00:36:31,417 that he could be the one that would take me away 558 00:36:31,542 --> 00:36:34,750 from this existence living with my mother. 559 00:36:34,833 --> 00:36:37,167 I thought, this is my knight in shining armor. 560 00:36:39,833 --> 00:36:42,625 I found out that I wasn't 15, 561 00:36:42,708 --> 00:36:47,792 that I was actually 19 and I was very shocked. 562 00:36:47,875 --> 00:36:51,542 That's when he tells me that he was on parole. 563 00:36:51,542 --> 00:36:53,417 I didn't even know what parole meant. 564 00:36:58,708 --> 00:37:00,833 (pensive music) 565 00:37:02,542 --> 00:37:07,083 - The notions that I had of love before prison 566 00:37:07,167 --> 00:37:11,417 were that of what I'd seen in Disney cartoons. 567 00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:14,375 You know, you never see Prince Charming and Cinderella 568 00:37:14,458 --> 00:37:19,000 fight ever, like everything's all perfect all the time. 569 00:37:19,083 --> 00:37:22,458 And then I started dating 570 00:37:22,542 --> 00:37:25,333 and then I realized it wasn't like that. (laughs) 571 00:37:30,625 --> 00:37:34,875 I first met Dan at a sci-fi convention 572 00:37:34,958 --> 00:37:36,500 called Vision Con. 573 00:37:37,833 --> 00:37:42,792 We would trade messages back and forth for a while, 574 00:37:42,875 --> 00:37:46,208 and slowly after a few months I started to tell him 575 00:37:46,292 --> 00:37:49,417 more and more about my home life. 576 00:37:50,458 --> 00:37:52,208 He was the very first person that I ever told 577 00:37:52,333 --> 00:37:53,667 that I could walk. 578 00:37:53,708 --> 00:37:55,750 (somber music) 579 00:37:57,625 --> 00:38:01,583 It was a relief to me to be able to confide in someone 580 00:38:01,667 --> 00:38:03,625 and he seemed really sweet. 581 00:38:07,583 --> 00:38:10,333 The age that my mother was telling him 582 00:38:10,417 --> 00:38:15,375 was 15 at the time and he was 36. 583 00:38:17,667 --> 00:38:20,292 And then I started dreaming about what it would be like 584 00:38:20,375 --> 00:38:22,917 if I was just a little bit older, 585 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,542 because then I would be legal to date him if I wanted to. 586 00:38:31,292 --> 00:38:35,750 Then one day, I found my Medicaid card 587 00:38:35,833 --> 00:38:39,333 and it said that my birth year was 1991 588 00:38:39,417 --> 00:38:44,792 and she had been claiming that it was 1995. 589 00:38:47,083 --> 00:38:49,833 I found out that I wasn't 15, 590 00:38:49,917 --> 00:38:56,667 that I was actually 19 and I was very shocked. 591 00:38:58,458 --> 00:39:01,833 At that point, I wish that I had stood up for myself more 592 00:39:03,042 --> 00:39:05,125 and realizing that the wheelchair 593 00:39:05,208 --> 00:39:07,292 was also part of a con. 594 00:39:10,792 --> 00:39:15,042 - As long as there were programs for sick children, 595 00:39:15,042 --> 00:39:17,958 Dee Dee would receive SSI benefits for that. 596 00:39:19,292 --> 00:39:22,000 So I think it was very much financial 597 00:39:22,083 --> 00:39:23,708 as well as an emotional thing. 598 00:39:23,792 --> 00:39:28,083 If Gypsy left her, she would lose her life. 599 00:39:30,958 --> 00:39:33,333 - I told Dan my age 600 00:39:35,542 --> 00:39:37,333 and he's like, "You're an independent woman. 601 00:39:37,375 --> 00:39:38,875 You could leave." 602 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,500 And I just kept explaining, I can't, you don't understand, 603 00:39:42,542 --> 00:39:47,042 I can't, my mother will find me and she, 604 00:39:47,125 --> 00:39:52,250 and he would tell me, "No, no, I'll make sure to protect you." 605 00:39:52,333 --> 00:39:55,375 And so we created this plan that I was gonna leave home 606 00:39:55,458 --> 00:39:59,500 and he was going to take me to his farm in Arkansas. 607 00:40:01,833 --> 00:40:05,375 So one night when my mother was asleep, 608 00:40:05,458 --> 00:40:09,000 I stole my mother's cell phone from her purse 609 00:40:09,042 --> 00:40:14,875 and I was texting with Dan and he sent me a text that said, 610 00:40:14,958 --> 00:40:17,500 "Could tonight be the night that we run away together?" 611 00:40:18,542 --> 00:40:20,625 And I was like, okay. 612 00:40:24,125 --> 00:40:25,708 I packed a few costumes 613 00:40:25,792 --> 00:40:30,375 'cause I didn't have real clothes and I had a blonde wig 614 00:40:30,458 --> 00:40:33,583 so no one would recognize me. 615 00:40:33,667 --> 00:40:38,000 I stole my mom's pain pills and I stole cash. 616 00:40:38,083 --> 00:40:40,083 And I left her a runaway note 617 00:40:40,167 --> 00:40:42,500 so she wouldn't worry about me. 618 00:40:42,583 --> 00:40:47,083 And I told her that I knew that I was 19 619 00:40:47,167 --> 00:40:51,500 and I wanted to live my own life as an independent woman. 620 00:40:51,583 --> 00:40:55,042 And I told her that I loved her, 621 00:40:55,125 --> 00:40:59,750 that it was just time for me to spread my wings and fly 622 00:40:59,875 --> 00:41:01,542 and I left through the back door. 623 00:41:04,792 --> 00:41:08,542 It was late at night, it was about 2:00 AM, 624 00:41:10,792 --> 00:41:14,417 and I hitchhike to his friend's house 625 00:41:16,750 --> 00:41:18,792 and I was excited to see him. 626 00:41:21,917 --> 00:41:25,167 That's when he tells me that he was on parole 627 00:41:25,250 --> 00:41:26,667 and couldn't leave the state. 628 00:41:29,333 --> 00:41:31,000 I didn't even know what parole meant. 629 00:41:32,708 --> 00:41:37,208 My first reaction is, oh my God, she's going to find me. 630 00:41:40,375 --> 00:41:42,333 ♪ Try to take my freedom 631 00:41:42,375 --> 00:41:44,708 - She chained me to the bed and said 632 00:41:44,833 --> 00:41:47,583 that you will never find love. 633 00:41:51,042 --> 00:41:53,208 ♪ But you can never take my soul ♪ 634 00:41:53,292 --> 00:41:59,292 About six months ago I met someone and we started dating. 635 00:41:59,292 --> 00:42:02,000 ♪ No, you can never take my soul ♪ 50514

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