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In 1970 this film
was called "Victory".
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In 1974 it is called
"Here and Elsewhere".
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And Elsewhere.
And...
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In 1970 this film
was called "Victory".
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In 1974 it is called
"Here and Elsewhere".
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And Elsewhere.
And...
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We have chosen a Palestinian revolution
to prove to the world,
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that this Palestinian earth,
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which has been taken away
by the Zionist enemy,
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we would give it back to its people,
to its first origins.
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And we won't give it back
by peaceful means.
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After having lost hope to give it back
by peaceful means...
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we undertook this task through war...
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and with a gun.
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And we shall construct peace
with the help of this gun.
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"The most important result...
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of the armed
Palestinian Revolution...
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is the direct participation...
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of the Palestinian woman...
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in the revolution...
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in order to accomplish her part...
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side by side with the Palestinian man."
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So it was in the middle
or the beginning...
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So it was in the beginning
or the middle of 1970.
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We go to the Middle East.
Who is that "we"?
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In February, July 1970
there is I...
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there is you, there is she, there
is he, who goes to the Middle East,
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amongst the Palestinians,
to make a film,
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And we shot things in this order,
and we organized it.
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She, you, he,
I organized the film like that.
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First, of course, the people...
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the people...
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"What Israel says is untrue;
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It is not a problem of borders
between the Arabs in general,
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and Israel in particular."
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The people, the people's will.
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Then there is the people
taking up arms, the armed struggle...
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the people's war...
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the armed struggle,
the people's war...
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the armed struggle,
the people's war...
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Then there was the political work.
The political work...
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"There is truly a victory
of the Palestinian people".
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...the political work.
The people's education.
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Then there was the time that it takes,
the popular war extended.
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The effort extended the long march.
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The popular war extended,
commanded by the people's logic.
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And all that, until victory.
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"Revolution until victory".
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"By the people, for the people,
revolution until victory".
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All that, we had all organized like that.
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All the sounds, all the images,
in that order.
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All the sounds, all the images,
in that order...
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saying: here is what was beautiful
in the Middle East.
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Five images, five sounds that hadn't
been heard or seen on Arab earth.
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The people's will, plus...
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plus the armed struggle equal the
people's war, plus...
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plus the political work equal the
people's education, plus...
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plus the people's logic
equal the popular war extended...
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extended...
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extended until victory
of the Palestinian people...
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And this is what one,
what he, what I, what she,
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what you had shot elsewhere.
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Elsewhere, 1970, February-July.
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Elsewhere, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria.
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Elsewhere, the Fatah's
Information Department.
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Elsewhere, the 8,000 dollars
from the Arabic League.
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And then we came back home,
I came back, you came back.
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From that, anyway,
we haven't recovered yet.
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She, you, he,
I finally came back here, in France.
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It didn't go well.
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And then days passed,
months passed...
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THE ME'S AND THE YOU'S
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"This one, I say, doesn't want to be
a member of the Socialist Party"...
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THE YOU'S AND THE ME'S
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"This past week, in order to
bring the government bankers
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to submit on several demands,
we saw that the workers' strength..."
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It doesn't go well anywhere.
Nowhere does it go well.
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Here it doesn't go well,
I can't do anything.
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Back in France, very soon you don't
know what to make of the film.
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Very soon, as one says, the
contradictions explode, including you.
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I begin to see it.
I begin to see it.
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Very soon - as one says the
contradictions explode, including you...
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...and you too, you too.
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Because of this...this...this...
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this...became that.
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Or because that...that...that...
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that...became this:
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THINKING OF THAT AGAIN
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ALMOST ALL THE ACTORS ARE DEAD
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THE ACTORS IN THE FILM WERE
FILMED IN DANGER OF DEATH
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DEATH IS REPRESENTED IN THIS
FILM BY A FLOW OF IMAGES
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A FLOW OF IMAGES AND
SOUNDS THAT HIDE SILENCE
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A SILENCE THAT BECOMES DEADLY
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BECAUSE IT IS PREVENTED
TO COME OUT ALIVE
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MAYBE,
IN A THOUSAND AND ONE DAYS,
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SHEHERAZADE
WILL TELL THIS OTHERWISE.
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Through adding hope to dream,
figures have probably been mistaken.
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Or rather: since we find ourselves
near zero, we didn't add but subtract.
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Or rather: it's negative that
has been added and first:
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HERE AND ELSEWHERE
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French Revolution and Arab Revolution.
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Arab Revolution and French Revolution.
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Here and Elsewhere;
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Victory and Defeat;
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Foreign and National;
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Quick and Slowly;
Everywhere and Nowhere;
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To Be and to Have;
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Space and Time; Questions
and Answers; In and Out;
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Order and Disorder; Interior and
Exterior; Black and White;
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Yet and Already;
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Dream and Reality.
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Here or Elsewhere;
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Powerful or Miserable;
Today or Tomorrow;
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Normal or Mad;
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Everything or Nothing;
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Always or Never;
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Man or Woman;
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More or Less;
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To Live or to Die;
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Poor or Rich.
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ABOUT WEALTHY AND POOR.
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Too simple and too easy to
simply divide the world in two.
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Too easy or too simple to say simply
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that the wealthy are wrong
and the poor are right.
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Too simple and too easy to simply say
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that the poor are right
and the wealthy are wrong.
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Too easy and...
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Too easy and too simple.
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Too simple and too easy.
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Too easy and too simple to simply
divide the world in two.
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Here is how the Capital functions;
something like that,
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perhaps one poor and one zero
equal one less poor...
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one less poor and another zero
equal one even less poor...
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one even less poor and
one zero equal one richer...
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one richer and another zero
equal one even richer...
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one even richer and another zero
equal one much richer.
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The Capital functions like that.
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At one given moment it adds,
and what are added are zeros.
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"Yes but zeros that represent tens,
hundreds, thousands of you and me,
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the capitalist says, thus in fact
they are not really zeros".
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One must see or learn to see that tens,
hundreds, thousands of me and you,
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when it's time to pay...
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when it's time to sum up
defeats and victories...
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one gets it up the ass very often,
one gets it up the ass because one...
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I didn't want to see
you either, she either...
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and he either didn't want to see
that all those dreams are represented.
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He didn't want to see
that all those dreams
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are represented at a given time.
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Time given and taken back again
by zeros that multiply them.
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LEARNING TO SEE, NOT TO READ
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But as they are zeros, it multiplies
and nullifies at the same time.
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And so one hasn't had the time to see
that at this moment, in this place,
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our hopes have been reduced to zero.
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To see for instance that the image
of a 17-plus for instance...
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...the image of a 36 equal already,
here in May, the image of a 68...
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...whereas for instance, the image
of a 17-plus the image of a 36...
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elsewhere in September,
still equal the image of a 70.
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In the Soviet or American
capitalistic system,
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it is the system that works,
works, works...
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It works like that.
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And since our dreams are most of
the time added as series of zeros...
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it has to be said that
the images of the sum
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will have nothing to do
with the sum of images.
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Here as elsewhere...
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One can be poor, here, at one place,
and be a millionaire elsewhere...
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a millionaire in images of the place.
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This should begin to be crammed
into your head.
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Poor revolutionary fool.
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Poor revolutionary fool.
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Millionaire in images
of revolution.
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Poor revolutionary fool,
millionaire in images of revolution.
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THINKING OF THAT AGAIN,
HERE AND ELSEWHERE
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Millionaire in images of revolution.
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So, one can finally see that what
happened in this film happens
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In any American movie,
where I added, you added...
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Armed struggle.
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Political work.
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Extended war.
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Until victory.
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O.K., but here, the images
can be seen altogether.
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At the movies, this is impossible.
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One is obliged to see them separately,
one after the other...
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which results in:
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The people's will.
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Armed struggle.
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Political work.
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Extended war.
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Until victory.
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But it is seen as such because in fact
when one makes a film,
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things really happen this way.
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Each time, one image ceases
to replace the other.
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Each time the image after expels
the images before and takes its place...
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keeping of course, more or less,
the memory of it.
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This is made possible
because the film is moving...
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and the images don't come altogether,
but separately to inscribe themselves
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one after the other, on their support:
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Agfa, Kodak, Orvo, Gevaert...
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And on the whole, time has replaced
space, speaks for it, or rather:
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Space - the people's will.
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Space has inscribed itself on film
in another form...
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Time - the people's will.
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Space - the armed struggle.
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which is not a whole any more,
but a sum of translations,
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a sum of feelings
which are forwarded...
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Space - political work.
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...that is, time...
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Time - political work.
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Space - extended war.
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...and the film that is, on the whole,
chain-work images...
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Time - extended war.
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...renders good accout, through this
series of images,
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of my double identity, space and time
chained one to the other...
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Time - until victory.
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...as two workers on
the assembly line...
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where each is at the same time
the copy and the original of the other.
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FIRST
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Well then, how to use one's time
to occupy one's space?
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FIRST
QUESTION
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How is a schedule organized?
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Well, like this...like this...
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But also like that.
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Or like that.
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Or again like that.
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Moreover, in fact, like this.
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As a matter of fact,
it is likely that a chain
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also consists in arranging memories...
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chaining them in a certain order...
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which will get everybody to find
one's place on the chain again...
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that is, to rediscover one's own image.
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O.K. but then: how does one
find one's own image
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in the other's order or disorder?
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With the agreement or
the disagreement of the other?
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And then: How to construct
one's own image?
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One's trademark, that is, an image that
marks, an image that leaves tracks.
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Well, like this...or this...
but also like that...
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that is, like that...
or that...or that...
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by using the gaze of another...
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that for convenience one calls
"my likeness".
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And under the gaze of a third person
who is not yet there...
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but is already represented
by a photographic lens...
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and who will believe you or me...
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you and me when we will look
at this image.
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As a matter of fact,
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it is likely that one constructs
one's own image with the other's.
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Friend or enemy,
you produce your image...
246
00:28:27,577 --> 00:28:30,724
You produce and consume
your image with mine...
247
00:28:31,394 --> 00:28:33,772
distributing mine to your image.
248
00:28:44,489 --> 00:28:48,775
So, we have said stuff like that,
in all sorts of directions...
249
00:28:49,144 --> 00:28:55,071
when we thought of what we had
done there 4 or 5 years ago...
250
00:28:58,854 --> 00:29:02,840
and now thinking of what
we are doing here...
251
00:29:02,907 --> 00:29:04,045
"Have you finished your homework?"
252
00:29:08,901 --> 00:29:11,647
"Why hasn't Daddy found a job yet?"
253
00:29:12,618 --> 00:29:14,728
"You'll ask when he comes back."
254
00:29:17,106 --> 00:29:20,119
"Always asking
the same question 'why'..."
255
00:29:22,497 --> 00:29:26,014
Nobody knows how to answer,
or answers are crooked.
256
00:29:26,918 --> 00:29:29,162
We don't do much better, anyway.
257
00:29:30,701 --> 00:29:31,382
And by continuously doing bad,
258
00:29:31,448 --> 00:29:34,274
one ends up thinking that it's not
the answers that don't fit,
259
00:29:34,326 --> 00:29:35,561
but the questions...
260
00:29:37,463 --> 00:29:38,905
"Have you found anything?"
261
00:29:39,553 --> 00:29:40,855
"No, I arrived too late."
262
00:29:49,119 --> 00:29:51,932
"Can you explain to me, Daddy,
I don't understand..."
263
00:29:52,401 --> 00:29:54,525
"No, I have no time for that,
maybe later..."
264
00:29:56,521 --> 00:30:01,176
Thinking that this system of questions
and answers must be abandoned...
265
00:30:02,836 --> 00:30:04,289
that something else has to be found.
266
00:30:05,510 --> 00:30:07,017
How to find a job...
267
00:30:08,393 --> 00:30:10,500
Earn one's living...
268
00:30:10,979 --> 00:30:11,806
Live with one's time...
269
00:30:24,349 --> 00:30:29,338
Be employed by the other's time
and employ it in turn.
270
00:30:31,951 --> 00:30:34,763
Before producing,
one will have to distribute.
271
00:30:41,529 --> 00:30:43,002
In order to revolt...
272
00:30:45,011 --> 00:30:46,685
one must find the time to...
273
00:30:47,188 --> 00:30:50,335
have the time to see things simply...
274
00:30:54,857 --> 00:30:59,780
i.e. not to be scared anymore to say
that it's things that are complicated...
275
00:31:00,617 --> 00:31:03,864
and that anxiety is simple,
too simple...
276
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,486
as for instance,
to put the sound too loud:
277
00:31:13,711 --> 00:31:15,519
"No, no, no, the sound not too loud!"
278
00:31:18,963 --> 00:31:20,704
"Say rather that it's you
who wants it that way!"
279
00:31:20,939 --> 00:31:24,849
"Yes it's me! When I'm fed up,
I like it when it shouts!"
280
00:31:29,612 --> 00:31:32,827
"Listen, it's not my fault
if I don't find a job."
281
00:31:33,598 --> 00:31:36,076
"If you spent less time
at your political meetings,
282
00:31:36,109 --> 00:31:38,318
you could maybe find
some to look for a job!"
283
00:31:41,735 --> 00:31:43,208
"Really, that's bullshit!"
284
00:31:43,544 --> 00:31:45,923
"You too! Please turn the sound down."
285
00:31:46,025 --> 00:31:46,758
"Oh, come on!"
286
00:31:46,825 --> 00:31:49,939
Turn the sound louder,
in reality, how does it happen?
287
00:31:50,844 --> 00:31:52,250
Sometimes like this...
288
00:31:56,068 --> 00:31:58,010
Sometimes, also like that...
289
00:32:13,583 --> 00:32:14,821
or like that...
290
00:32:25,804 --> 00:32:31,164
Well, let's split up one of these
movements and look at it slowly.
291
00:32:36,622 --> 00:32:39,133
One sees that there isn't only one
but two movements.
292
00:32:41,343 --> 00:32:44,926
Two noises that move in relation
to one another.
293
00:32:47,271 --> 00:32:51,122
In time of panic and
lack of imagination...
294
00:32:52,261 --> 00:32:54,437
there is always one that takes power.
295
00:32:58,188 --> 00:33:02,406
Here, for instance, there was first the
noises of the school and the family.
296
00:33:15,099 --> 00:33:20,826
Then there will be the noise
erasing that of the family and school.
297
00:33:33,766 --> 00:33:35,560
A point in time...
298
00:33:40,081 --> 00:33:42,726
when one sound takes power
over the others.
299
00:33:45,809 --> 00:33:51,701
A point in time when this sound seeks,
almost desperately, to keep this power.
300
00:34:00,709 --> 00:34:02,852
How did that sound take power?
301
00:34:03,924 --> 00:34:09,283
It took power because at one given time
it made itself represented by an image.
302
00:34:10,288 --> 00:34:12,640
This one for instance:
303
00:34:13,297 --> 00:34:15,678
The image of a gangster
who represents the Mafia.
304
00:34:16,951 --> 00:34:20,769
Or more simply, the image of a foreman
who represents his boss.
305
00:34:35,638 --> 00:34:38,283
To take power is made possible
when the image,
306
00:34:38,316 --> 00:34:42,535
at the same time it reinforces
a sound by taking its place...
307
00:34:43,038 --> 00:34:47,390
when the image in return makes itself
represented by another sound.
308
00:34:51,514 --> 00:34:54,390
Like a worker, making himself
represented by a union...
309
00:34:58,911 --> 00:35:02,494
and this organization translating
this fact by keywords
310
00:35:02,561 --> 00:35:04,738
which are in turn given back
to the worker.
311
00:35:04,805 --> 00:35:05,675
MY GUN
312
00:35:21,582 --> 00:35:25,332
A young guy who reads a porn novel
to forget the factory.
313
00:35:26,371 --> 00:35:31,729
Any daily image will also be part of a
vague and complicated system,
314
00:35:31,763 --> 00:35:35,715
where the whole world enters
and leaves at each moment.
315
00:35:37,489 --> 00:35:40,837
Any image. Any image.
316
00:35:43,785 --> 00:35:47,656
Daily. Daily.
317
00:35:49,914 --> 00:35:53,664
To forget the factory.
to forget the factory.
318
00:35:54,634 --> 00:35:57,916
A vague and complicated system.
319
00:36:00,997 --> 00:36:03,207
A vague and complicated system.
320
00:36:04,914 --> 00:36:08,867
The whole world. The whole world.
321
00:36:12,350 --> 00:36:15,230
No matter how. No matter how.
322
00:36:18,343 --> 00:36:22,932
My daily image will be part of
a vague and complicated system...
323
00:36:23,568 --> 00:36:26,883
where the whole world enters
and leaves at each moment.
324
00:36:31,103 --> 00:36:33,715
the whole world,
that's too much for one image.
325
00:36:34,586 --> 00:36:36,963
"No, not too much" says the
international capitalism...
326
00:36:37,935 --> 00:36:40,580
which builds all its wealth on this truth.
327
00:36:48,182 --> 00:36:50,076
There are no more simple images,
328
00:36:50,425 --> 00:36:55,214
only simple people, who will be
forced to stay quiet, like an image.
329
00:36:59,419 --> 00:37:03,317
Each of us thus becomes
too many inside oneself...
330
00:37:06,532 --> 00:37:08,108
not enough outside.
331
00:37:09,388 --> 00:37:10,719
Little by little, we are replaced...
332
00:37:17,953 --> 00:37:21,904
by uninterrupted chains of images,
enslaving one another.
333
00:38:44,174 --> 00:38:45,432
Little by little...
334
00:38:46,471 --> 00:38:52,666
we are replaced by uninterrupted chains
of images enslaving one another...
335
00:38:54,206 --> 00:38:58,726
each image at its place,
as each of us, at our place...
336
00:39:00,434 --> 00:39:04,788
in the chain of events
on which we have lost all power.
337
00:39:07,189 --> 00:39:10,482
HERE AND ELSEWHERE
338
00:39:11,089 --> 00:39:12,290
We did as several people.
339
00:39:12,458 --> 00:39:15,403
We took images and
put the sound too loud.
340
00:39:20,059 --> 00:39:25,229
Vietnam...always the same sound,
always too loud.
341
00:39:25,316 --> 00:39:32,014
Prague, May 68 - France, Italy.
342
00:39:33,723 --> 00:39:35,798
Chinese cultural Revolution.
343
00:39:37,907 --> 00:39:39,046
Strikes in Poland.
344
00:39:39,582 --> 00:39:41,022
Tortures in Spain.
345
00:39:44,572 --> 00:39:47,485
Ireland, Portugal, Chile, Palestine.
346
00:39:53,144 --> 00:39:54,853
The Sound so loud...
347
00:39:54,919 --> 00:39:59,071
that it almost drowned the voice
it wanted to draw out of the image.
348
00:40:12,802 --> 00:40:15,229
Amongst the ruins of the city of Karame,
349
00:40:15,313 --> 00:40:19,901
a little girl from
the Fatah recites a poem.
350
00:40:20,370 --> 00:40:21,709
"I shall resist..."
351
00:40:34,535 --> 00:40:37,013
Listen, you could talk first
about the setting...
352
00:40:37,415 --> 00:40:40,462
and about the actor in this set,
that is, about theater.
353
00:40:41,787 --> 00:40:43,275
This theater, where does it come from?
354
00:40:43,510 --> 00:40:45,989
It comes from 1789,
from the French Revolution...
355
00:40:46,726 --> 00:40:49,772
and from the pleasure
that the Delegates of '89...
356
00:40:50,140 --> 00:40:54,394
took in making large gestures and
reciting their claims publicly.
357
00:40:58,613 --> 00:41:03,134
This little girl is acting for the
Palestinian Revolution, of course.
358
00:41:03,837 --> 00:41:07,956
She is innocent, but maybe
not this form of theater.
359
00:41:22,121 --> 00:41:26,207
Near the Jordan, a small group of
Feddayin tries through discussion
360
00:41:26,241 --> 00:41:30,125
to bind revolutionary
theory and practice.
361
00:41:37,090 --> 00:41:39,233
Listen, be a little simpler
in your speech!
362
00:41:39,932 --> 00:41:41,410
What are they saying, those Feddayin?
363
00:41:42,013 --> 00:41:44,257
They are speaking about
their links to the earth,
364
00:41:44,291 --> 00:41:46,735
taking as an example
the digging of trenches.
365
00:41:47,242 --> 00:41:48,443
And they say exactly:
366
00:41:49,180 --> 00:41:53,065
"In digging our soil we bind
ourselves to it, we love it more."
367
00:41:53,398 --> 00:41:56,011
"And when the earth protects you,
you become its lover."
368
00:41:57,210 --> 00:41:58,958
"So don't talk about practice and theory."
369
00:41:59,025 --> 00:42:04,015
They have said "make love" to their
earth, then say: love and say: make.
370
00:42:05,556 --> 00:42:10,746
In a school, the Democratic Front
organizes alphabetized classes.
371
00:42:11,348 --> 00:42:14,698
A woman repeats a text from the union.
372
00:42:18,515 --> 00:42:22,367
You see, at first she seems
happy to do this little work.
373
00:42:23,773 --> 00:42:24,945
I find her beautiful.
374
00:42:26,318 --> 00:42:27,959
Since she doesn't know how to read,
375
00:42:28,026 --> 00:42:29,968
she is quite pleased
to participate in the struggle,
376
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,112
even by just repeating a text.
377
00:42:39,913 --> 00:42:42,024
But while this repetition proceeds...
378
00:42:50,396 --> 00:42:53,209
she seems more and
more morose, bored.
379
00:42:53,912 --> 00:42:58,131
She seems to wish she could go back to
duties which don't ask her to speak,
380
00:42:58,164 --> 00:43:01,246
even if those duties have
to do with repetition.
381
00:43:01,714 --> 00:43:06,737
Daily life, everyday tasks
inside a revolution - or outside.
382
00:43:08,110 --> 00:43:13,268
Automatisms settle while repeating
words in a certain order,
383
00:43:13,334 --> 00:43:15,310
words that she would never
have said like that.
384
00:43:15,344 --> 00:43:17,486
But what would she have said?
And how?
385
00:43:23,549 --> 00:43:25,759
In any case, the unions
don't ask this question.
386
00:43:26,529 --> 00:43:29,778
Texts talk, talk but never
talk about silence.
387
00:43:30,983 --> 00:43:37,482
In the camp of Bakka, not far from
Amman, a leader from the Fatah speaks;
388
00:43:37,579 --> 00:43:41,097
delivers a speech to celebrate the
anniversary of the victory of Karame.
389
00:43:43,172 --> 00:43:44,712
You see, we were talking about silence.
390
00:43:45,516 --> 00:43:48,095
All that goes wrong can very well
be seen in this image.
391
00:43:48,430 --> 00:43:52,683
The one that represents the people is
speaking alone, far from the people.
392
00:43:58,911 --> 00:44:00,787
As always, theater.
393
00:44:04,270 --> 00:44:05,408
In Beyrouth...
394
00:44:06,178 --> 00:44:07,451
"Can you say it one more time?"
395
00:44:07,517 --> 00:44:12,139
...a pregnant woman is proud
to give her son to the revolution.
396
00:44:24,664 --> 00:44:28,716
In this take, this is not
the most interesting; but that:
397
00:44:29,821 --> 00:44:31,294
"Can you say it one more time?"
398
00:44:31,394 --> 00:44:34,744
"Would you straighten your head
a little?" "Yes, like that."
399
00:44:39,801 --> 00:44:41,331
First thing to say:
400
00:44:41,676 --> 00:44:44,087
It's always the one who
is directed that is seen,
401
00:44:44,154 --> 00:44:46,063
never the one who is directing.
402
00:44:51,310 --> 00:44:53,965
The one that commands and
gives orders is never seen.
403
00:44:58,987 --> 00:45:00,730
There is another thing that doesn't fit.
404
00:45:03,610 --> 00:45:05,127
You have chosen for that take
a young intellectual,
405
00:45:05,180 --> 00:45:07,996
sympathizing with the Palestinian cause,
406
00:45:08,030 --> 00:45:11,179
who is not pregnant but
accepts to play the part.
407
00:45:11,547 --> 00:45:13,689
Furthermore she is young and beautiful.
408
00:45:14,091 --> 00:45:16,100
About that, you remain silent.
409
00:45:17,556 --> 00:45:19,784
But from secrets of this type to fascism,
there is only one quick step.
410
00:45:21,124 --> 00:45:24,540
"And then, in this town
inhabited mainly by Oriental Jews,
411
00:45:24,607 --> 00:45:26,448
anger and hate exploded."
412
00:45:35,168 --> 00:45:37,566
"At a paroxysm of anger,
in a quasi-collective delirium,
413
00:45:37,633 --> 00:45:40,448
a hysterical crowd rushes
inside the building..."
414
00:45:41,049 --> 00:45:42,523
When these images are seen...
415
00:45:42,590 --> 00:45:45,168
"The bodies of the four Feddayin,
thrown out by the windows,
416
00:45:45,202 --> 00:45:49,489
are then burnt by the crowd shouting
'Death to the terrorists'".
417
00:45:49,555 --> 00:45:51,732
When these images are seen,
418
00:45:51,798 --> 00:45:54,946
there is only one thing to say,
one sound to make:
419
00:46:03,396 --> 00:46:08,375
"Auschwitz...Treblinka..."
420
00:46:10,112 --> 00:46:13,629
Munich - September 72: Olympic Games.
421
00:46:13,694 --> 00:46:18,786
A Palestinian commando seizes
a dozen hostages from the Isreali team
422
00:46:18,819 --> 00:46:22,435
and threatens to execute them if a
hundred of his Palestinian fellows,
423
00:46:22,503 --> 00:46:24,713
prisoners in Isreal, aren't released.
424
00:46:27,057 --> 00:46:28,295
I don't know.
425
00:46:28,966 --> 00:46:31,745
I am sure that there
was something else to be done.
426
00:46:33,084 --> 00:46:36,767
Think! The conditions
under which that happened:
427
00:46:38,903 --> 00:46:42,327
In Munich, that very day, the strength
of imperialism was in television
428
00:46:42,395 --> 00:46:45,140
and billions of spectators
demanding a program.
429
00:46:45,977 --> 00:46:48,020
It could have been possible
430
00:46:48,053 --> 00:46:50,263
to take advantage of a world-wide
audience listening and say:
431
00:46:51,035 --> 00:46:53,044
"Show this image from time to time!"
432
00:46:53,813 --> 00:46:54,985
If that was refused,
433
00:46:55,052 --> 00:46:58,869
to take advantage of a world-wide
audience watching TV and say:
434
00:47:00,394 --> 00:47:03,324
"You refuse to show this image." -
at each final, for instance.
435
00:47:04,196 --> 00:47:08,475
Okay, we'll kill the hostages
and we'll be killed afterwards.
436
00:47:09,050 --> 00:47:10,758
And for them as for us,
437
00:47:10,825 --> 00:47:15,547
one finds it silly to die for an image
and one is a little scared.
438
00:47:19,112 --> 00:47:24,020
"...crimes of humanity: This time,
the Gates of Hell will be passed..."
439
00:47:24,086 --> 00:47:26,096
Okay, not too many pompous sentences.
440
00:47:27,033 --> 00:47:31,454
I noticed something, you know, while
reading books on concentration camps
441
00:47:31,855 --> 00:47:33,998
when the prisoners couldn't
stand on their feet
442
00:47:34,033 --> 00:47:36,041
and weren't really worth anything.
443
00:47:36,477 --> 00:47:38,687
at the last stage of physical decay,
444
00:47:39,156 --> 00:47:41,098
well, a prisoner was called a Muslim:
445
00:47:41,668 --> 00:47:50,331
"Twelve million men, women and children
were deported, nine million were dead."
446
00:47:51,311 --> 00:47:55,397
"For six million of them,
their only crime was to be Jewish."
447
00:47:56,602 --> 00:48:00,756
Here is a Jew in such a condition
that the SS called him: Muslim.
448
00:48:06,382 --> 00:48:11,927
The silence. The family.
The television.
449
00:48:13,044 --> 00:48:15,122
My silence. Your silence.
450
00:48:17,500 --> 00:48:18,672
The factory and the sexes.
451
00:48:18,716 --> 00:48:21,544
The working conditions.
452
00:48:25,877 --> 00:48:28,030
Pleasure and money.
453
00:48:28,213 --> 00:48:30,642
The working conditions.
454
00:48:36,849 --> 00:48:38,935
Oil and revolution.
455
00:48:39,266 --> 00:48:41,070
The working conditions.
456
00:48:51,317 --> 00:48:52,657
So what are they saying?
457
00:48:54,369 --> 00:48:58,087
They say: concerning
the crossing of the river,
458
00:48:58,154 --> 00:49:01,402
did you find any difficulties,
or make any mistakes?
459
00:49:02,306 --> 00:49:04,096
There is one serious mistake:
460
00:49:04,182 --> 00:49:06,827
since we cross the river
always at the same place,
461
00:49:06,894 --> 00:49:10,242
we are going to have ourselves
located by the enemy's machine-guns
462
00:49:10,310 --> 00:49:13,524
and thus we may cause the
tragic end of the whole group.
463
00:49:21,193 --> 00:49:23,638
I do remember when we shot this.
464
00:49:24,034 --> 00:49:27,388
That was three months before
the September slaughters.
465
00:49:28,226 --> 00:49:30,738
That was in June '70
and in three months,
466
00:49:31,173 --> 00:49:33,348
the whole little group will be dead.
467
00:49:33,961 --> 00:49:38,685
What is really tragic is
that they are here talking...
468
00:49:38,975 --> 00:49:40,684
talking of their own death.
469
00:49:41,220 --> 00:49:43,261
But nobody said that.
470
00:49:43,630 --> 00:49:49,623
No, because it was up to you to say it
and what is tragic is that you didn't.
471
00:50:05,628 --> 00:50:10,300
As they are simple revolutionaries,
they talk about simple things.
472
00:50:10,697 --> 00:50:11,636
Incredibly simple.
473
00:50:14,625 --> 00:50:16,300
What are they saying?
474
00:50:17,807 --> 00:50:20,385
"The enemy could easily
recognize our entry post...
475
00:50:20,921 --> 00:50:23,868
encircle us and hit us and destroy us.
476
00:50:24,974 --> 00:50:29,762
Instead of beating and annihilating him,
he will beat and annihilate us.
477
00:50:44,127 --> 00:50:46,439
This is why this type of mistake
should be avoided.
478
00:50:47,945 --> 00:50:50,691
This is why we shouldn't
gather at one point.
479
00:50:51,931 --> 00:50:55,648
These passages shouldn't be individual,
480
00:50:55,682 --> 00:50:59,228
but made so that two or three of our
group could cross the river at once.
481
00:51:24,213 --> 00:51:28,810
It is true that even to silence,
we never listened in silence.
482
00:51:30,005 --> 00:51:34,093
We wanted to crow victory right away,
and furthermore at their place.
483
00:51:47,185 --> 00:51:49,429
If we wanted to make
the Revolution for them,
484
00:51:49,730 --> 00:51:51,438
it's perhaps because at that time
485
00:51:51,606 --> 00:51:53,883
we didn't really want
to make it where we are,
486
00:51:54,285 --> 00:51:56,061
instead of where we aren't.
487
00:52:08,095 --> 00:52:11,445
"Do you think that we have sufficient
knowledge on Isreali positions
488
00:52:11,478 --> 00:52:15,196
to carry through missions
against the enemy?"
489
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,210
"No, we don't know enough."
490
00:52:38,872 --> 00:52:42,154
"Are you able to manage
a suicide operation
491
00:52:42,220 --> 00:52:44,329
on an important position
held by the enemy?"
492
00:52:45,033 --> 00:52:47,163
"Yes, we agree. Of course."
493
00:52:58,295 --> 00:53:02,046
THINKING OF THAT AGAIN,
HERE AND ELSEWHERE
494
00:53:02,112 --> 00:53:05,740
In 1970 this film was called:
Victory.
495
00:53:06,365 --> 00:53:11,321
In 1975 it is called:
Here and Elsewhere.
496
00:53:12,660 --> 00:53:16,414
Here, a French family watches television.
497
00:53:17,456 --> 00:53:20,897
Elsewhere, images of the
Palestinian revolution.
498
00:53:22,566 --> 00:53:27,258
Here, today, the sound
and images of today's noise.
499
00:53:28,405 --> 00:53:34,036
Elsewhere, first yesterday, abroad,
then tomorrow.
500
00:53:35,079 --> 00:53:37,582
Here, very simple images.
501
00:53:38,103 --> 00:53:43,004
The children watch television, before
doing their homework and after supper.
502
00:53:44,463 --> 00:53:46,984
Elsewhere, very simple images.
503
00:53:47,174 --> 00:53:52,702
The Fedayin discuss the way to liberate
the river from the Israeli machineguns.
504
00:53:53,953 --> 00:54:00,001
Where did the inability to see or hear
these very simple images come from?
505
00:54:00,209 --> 00:54:03,754
We have, like everyone,
said something else about them.
506
00:54:03,963 --> 00:54:06,466
Something else than what they are saying.
507
00:54:09,489 --> 00:54:12,619
It seems most likely that
we do not know how to see or listen.
508
00:54:13,453 --> 00:54:15,973
Or, that the sound is
too loud and covers reality.
509
00:54:17,832 --> 00:54:22,316
Learn to see here,
in order to understand elsewhere.
510
00:54:23,046 --> 00:54:27,547
Learn to understand speech
in order to see what others do.
511
00:54:28,885 --> 00:54:31,597
The others, the "elsewhere" of our "here".
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