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You wanna give me a word?
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You want, you want,
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you wanna have me
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give you one word
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that describes Natalia to me?
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Enigma.
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She won't tell us
the truth in who she is.
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We are living with
a con artist sociopath.
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Now a story
making headlines
around the world.
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Is this a child
or a grown woman?
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The Barnetts
believe the adoption
was a scam all along.
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They claim they were tricked
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into adopting an adult.
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She's evil.
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I promise you,
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within five years,
someone's dead.
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What is it?
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Why?
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She threatened
to stab my sons,
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drag their bodies outside
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and bury them under the deck.
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She tried to poison
and kill my wife.
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Bye-bye!
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She said, "I pulled a knife
on my parents. Big deal."
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It's like a serial killer
or something.
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It's how casually
they put attempted murder
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into a conversation.
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She was gonna kill everybody.
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You've adopted a kid and now
they're trying to kill you.
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I mean, it's the stuff
of a horror movie, right?
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If you watch the Orphan,
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it's just like the Orphan.
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She was an adult.
You could tell
by looking at her.
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Natalia was a victim.
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The Barnetts
are the predators.
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They just literally
left her to the wolves.
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I don't know that there's
100% one villain here.
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Kristine basically said that
Natalia destroyed their lives.
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Irregardless of her age,
she was left
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feeling abandoned
and neglected, alone.
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Natalia was a child.
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I know that for sure
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because I'm a little person.
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I think
Kristine Barnett
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is a sorry excuse
for a mother.
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When I found out
what happened to her,
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that was what
broke my heart the most.
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There were a lot of secrets
in that house.
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His minimum sentence
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is three to 16 years.
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It doesn't smell right.
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There's something wrong.
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It smells like.
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Do you know the difference
between the truth and a lie?
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-I didn't at the time, no.
-Oh, you didn't know.
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I was just listening to what
Kristine told me to tell them.
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You just don't know
the true Barnetts.
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There was
domestic violence.
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They'll do anything
to get what they want.
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There were all these
pieces to a puzzle
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that we couldn't
quite put together.
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You're saying you lie
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-because she told you to lie.
-Yes.
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Michael and Kristine
not only lied
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to get her into their family,
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but they also lied
to get rid of her.
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This is one of the most
twisted cases ever.
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I know
he's not the kinda guy
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that could do well
if he had to go to prison.
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You got a seatbelt? Buckle up.
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I don't think
anyone will ever get
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the complete truth.
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So much of this
is a mystery.
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I still don't have
concrete answers.
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Somebody's not
telling the truth.
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It is a web of lies.
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I'm not sure you can
trust anybody in this case.
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We were all abused!
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We were all abused!
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I'm so scared.
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This will
never stop.
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I hope I don't
overstate this
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and make it seem a little bit
too Normal Rockwell,
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American, uh, life,
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but life was fantastic.
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It really was.
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This was summer 2010.
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Life's great.
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We'd been married
for about 15 years.
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We have three sons,
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Jacob, Wesley and Ethan.
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Financially,
we're doing great.
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We've got a literal
brand new McMansion,
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5,000-square-foot home
in a prestigious town
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and a driveway
loaded with cars in it.
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There's a Lamborghini in
my driveway, for God's sakes.
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We have 13 TVs.
We've got 14 couches.
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There was hundreds
of thousands of dollars
in the bank account.
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More importantly, we were
a very tight-knit family.
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It really was
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the pinnacle of life.
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Michael
loved Kristine dearly.
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When the flowers came
for their anniversary,
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it was a dozen roses for
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every year they were married.
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So, for their
10th anniversary,
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10 dozen roses.
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Kristine and I,
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we could do anything together.
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And when we realized
our oldest son Jacob
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has Asperger's, or autism,
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we fought those fights.
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We were downright amazing
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at the things
we could accomplish.
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I'm Jacob Barnett
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here with an introduction
to scientific notation.
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I figured that,
since I was teaching it
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to my two brothers,
Wesley and Ethan,
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I would be able
to post it onto YouTube.
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Okay, so I'm going to
finish this integral.
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D by DX.
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Their oldest son
is a genius
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and was moving
through schooling
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faster than I move
through a pair of shoes.
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I did not come here
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to frighten you all
with quantum mechanics.
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Not yet.
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We would get
a message from Michael saying,
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"Hey, did you see the paper?
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Jake's on the front page,"
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to, "Kristine's
writing a book.
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It's been picked up
by a publisher."
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...cubed, divided by...
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He has
a full scholarship
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at the joint Indiana
University-Purdue campus.
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For Jake, fun is reciting
from memory
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the infinite series of numbers
known as pi.
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3.1415926535897932384626433...
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Jacob's one of
the smartest people
I've ever heard of.
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They're travelling the world.
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Jacob, when he was 15,
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got an award from the Vatican.
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This was where
the Barnett's lived.
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The garage was, um,
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where Kristine Barnett
had her daycare.
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They were all
special-needs kids.
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The Barnett family
opened up a foundation
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a place where parents
and kids with autism
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could go be with other parents
and kids with autism
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and feel normal.
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We were
proud of them
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and they just seemed
so happy together.
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The Barnetts had
the picture-perfect life
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it seemed.
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So, we went from early 2010
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were blessed with many things.
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By the time 2014 came around,
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I have 37 cents
in my bank account,
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I have no wife,
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I have no children,
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I have no home,
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I have no job.
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My possessions,
at that moment,
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was my car
and a backpack of clothing.
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If Natalia
never entered our lives,
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I never get divorced.
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They, they're...
They interviewed me three times
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with a detective
in a bulletproof vest.
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What? What are they
gonna charge you with?
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Kristine, listen--
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I'm... Kristine...
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Kristine, listen.
Listen to my voice.
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I'm done...
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We had no idea
what we were dealing with.
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And tensions were
so incredibly high.
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It was a very rough time,
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especially for the children.
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I'm Jake Barnett.
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Since I've last
been seen publicly,
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in some ways,
I think I've regressed.
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I'm, uh, in my dad's
basement right now.
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It's in Indiana.
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Usually, I say Natalia's
my adopted sister,
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so then, uh,
I guess I would say,
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"I'm Jacob. I'm Natalia's
adopted brother,"
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but that particular, um,
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way of introducing myself
is kind of irrelevant
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because I haven't seen Natalia
in, like, a decade.
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I find the situation
incredibly confusing.
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It's like I wanna know
what happened
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and I wanna know
the actual, like, truth
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and everyone's motives,
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but at the same time, um,
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I don't wanna remember that
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and I don't want to, um,
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have to revisit, um,
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a lot of trauma
from my childhood.
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It's, uh, difficult for me
to piece together
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what happened
with adopting Natalia.
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Before Natalia, we had been
married for about 15 years.
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It's easily the best
moment in time
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that our marriage ever had.
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We were so happy
and comfortable
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that we had gotten
to the point that, you know,
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we started
talking about, "Maybe,
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maybe there's room here
for somebody else."
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We were gonna adopt
a little girl out of Haiti
named Gilberta,
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and right before that April,
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uh, the earthquake hit Haiti,
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and suddenly
our hopes were dashed
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because Haiti shut down all
adoptions out of the country.
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So we were ready to adopt,
but we missed our window.
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And then we get this
phone call out of nowhere
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from this adoption agency
in Florida
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called Adoption
by Shepherd Care.
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They say, "Hey, we know you.
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We've seen your home study.
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We know that
you have a charity
for special-needs children,
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you've been doing that
for a decade.
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We think you'd be perfect
for this little girl
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that's gonna be coming to us.
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She's a little person.
She has dwarfism.
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Now, here's the problem.
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You got 24 hours to decide,
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and if you don't
come get her on Monday,
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she's going
directly to foster care."
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Kristine and I almost took it
as a sign from above.
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Now we're jumped on a plane,
flying to Florida.
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It's exciting.
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When I found out
I was gonna have a sister,
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I was really excited.
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We had some white T-shirts
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that we painted on saying,
"Welcome home, Natalia."
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We pull up
in the town,
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and, you know, I'll be honest,
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I was a little taken aback by
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the adoption agency location.
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It was in
a rundown strip mall,
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maybe on
the wrong side of tracks,
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little house that's been
converted into offices.
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It didn't look like
an adoption agency at all.
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First thing
I'm saying to my wife is,
"Check the address.
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This just doesn't look right.
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We're gonna get a child here?"
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Uh, so we start coming in
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and they sit us
into a little room
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no bigger than
the size of this room
we're in right now,
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and they tell us,
"Just wait here."
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Natalia's coming soon."
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And you've gotta understand,
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with it being
a closed adoption,
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the adoption agency
was not willing
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to share any details of her
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before we came down.
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They gave us
two pictures of her.
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They gave us
a Ukrainian-language
birth certificate.
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Birth certificate
supported six.
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Uh, September, 4th, 2003.
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We were all
excited about that.
260
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My youngest son was six.
261
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He was also born
in the summer of 2003.
262
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We thought this was
gonna be a situation
263
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where they're going to grow
and develop and be twins.
264
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We're in there for about
an hour by ourselves.
265
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We sign paperwork
pretty quick.
266
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"Sign here, sign here,
sign here."
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We hear the front door open.
268
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"That's gotta be her."
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We start peeking
through the keyhole.
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There's a little
itty-bitty keyhole.
It's a solid door.
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And we're looking
and we're looking.
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Like,
"Oh, can I see her?"
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I was really excited
for her to come home.
274
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About 20, 30 minutes go by,
275
00:13:05,413 --> 00:13:07,172
and we can see the door open
276
00:13:07,172 --> 00:13:10,206
and we can see
the other family leave.
277
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She was adopted before.
278
00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,965
This was her family that
adopted her the first time.
279
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Natalia's left behind.
280
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They had flown in,
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dropped her off, flew out.
282
00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,482
We never spoke to them
283
00:13:22,482 --> 00:13:24,103
and we are just thinking,
284
00:13:24,103 --> 00:13:28,241
"How dare these other people
give up on her?"
285
00:13:29,068 --> 00:13:31,172
And we'd been worried
286
00:13:31,172 --> 00:13:34,000
for the last couple of days,
worried sick
287
00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,068
that our new daughter's
not gonna like us.
288
00:13:36,068 --> 00:13:38,172
And the next thing you know,
the door opens,
289
00:13:38,896 --> 00:13:40,000
Natalia's right there,
290
00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,517
she comes running in,
291
00:13:41,517 --> 00:13:43,482
she's got this big smile
on her face,
292
00:13:43,482 --> 00:13:45,482
she's happy as can be,
293
00:13:45,482 --> 00:13:48,448
and she's shouting,
"Mommy, Daddy, Mommy, Daddy,
Mommy, Daddy!"
294
00:13:49,793 --> 00:13:51,517
We're overcome
with joy and emotion.
295
00:13:51,517 --> 00:13:52,586
Oh, my gosh.
296
00:13:52,586 --> 00:13:54,172
That day in and of itself,
297
00:13:54,172 --> 00:13:56,206
without context,
298
00:13:56,206 --> 00:13:58,034
is one of the five
greatest days of my life.
299
00:14:00,275 --> 00:14:02,172
She was very small.
300
00:14:04,103 --> 00:14:06,689
She had long,
curly brown hair.
301
00:14:08,379 --> 00:14:10,482
She had brown eyes
and pronounced cheeks
302
00:14:10,482 --> 00:14:13,241
that really stood out
when she smiled.
303
00:14:15,275 --> 00:14:16,724
I remember the way that
304
00:14:16,724 --> 00:14:19,586
her hands are jointed
305
00:14:19,586 --> 00:14:22,517
as not the same as ours
306
00:14:22,517 --> 00:14:23,896
because of her dwarfism.
307
00:14:23,896 --> 00:14:25,103
Like, her fingers, like,
308
00:14:25,103 --> 00:14:27,448
sort of bent in
a bit like this.
309
00:14:28,413 --> 00:14:31,172
But I was overjoyed
the day that I met her.
310
00:14:33,103 --> 00:14:35,103
The fun times I can remember
with Natalia
311
00:14:35,103 --> 00:14:37,689
are pretty much
from that first week
where we were in Florida.
312
00:14:39,517 --> 00:14:41,965
We went with Natalia
to Disney World.
313
00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,517
We were all excited
to have her in the family
314
00:14:45,517 --> 00:14:49,344
and Natalia seemed happy
to join our family.
315
00:14:50,413 --> 00:14:53,586
If I was a little girl
needing to be adopted
316
00:14:54,103 --> 00:14:56,413
and they came for me,
317
00:14:56,413 --> 00:14:58,793
heck yeah, jackpot.
318
00:15:01,586 --> 00:15:03,517
So, we get to
the hotel that night,
319
00:15:03,517 --> 00:15:07,344
and Kristine's going to give
our brand-new daughter a bath
320
00:15:08,275 --> 00:15:10,448
and I hear a shout
from the bathroom.
321
00:15:13,172 --> 00:15:15,724
This was a,
"I'm not playing around.
322
00:15:15,724 --> 00:15:18,206
Come here right now,
Michael," shout.
323
00:15:18,206 --> 00:15:21,103
I get up, I go flying
to the bathroom,
324
00:15:21,103 --> 00:15:24,241
and the color's almost
gone from her face.
325
00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,793
It's almost like
she's seen a ghost.
326
00:15:26,793 --> 00:15:28,896
She's, she's truly frightened
327
00:15:28,896 --> 00:15:30,896
and she just doesn't know
what she's seeing
328
00:15:30,896 --> 00:15:32,172
and what's going on.
329
00:15:32,172 --> 00:15:34,793
She says,
"Michael, Michael, look.
330
00:15:35,793 --> 00:15:37,000
Look down."
331
00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,793
And Natalia
had full pubic hair.
332
00:15:39,793 --> 00:15:43,137
And I don't know
what to think.
333
00:15:44,793 --> 00:15:47,586
"Is that possible?
Is that even possible?"
334
00:15:50,379 --> 00:15:51,758
"Who the
is this person?"
335
00:15:56,689 --> 00:15:59,172
"Can a 6-year-old
have full pubic hair?
I don't know."
336
00:15:59,172 --> 00:16:02,172
Google's telling us,
"Well, earliest possible time,
337
00:16:02,172 --> 00:16:04,241
lowest common
denominator, eight."
338
00:16:05,275 --> 00:16:07,275
So we just go, "Okay, look,
our mission,
339
00:16:07,275 --> 00:16:09,103
we were going to show
love and compassion
340
00:16:09,103 --> 00:16:10,793
to somebody that
never had it before.
341
00:16:10,793 --> 00:16:12,448
That doesn't
make a difference."
342
00:16:18,379 --> 00:16:19,931
I'm Kathy Barnett.
343
00:16:19,931 --> 00:16:21,758
I'm Michael Barnett's mother.
344
00:16:23,482 --> 00:16:26,068
I found out
that Natalia was coming.
345
00:16:27,172 --> 00:16:29,103
I was so excited
346
00:16:29,103 --> 00:16:32,172
to treat this child special.
347
00:16:32,172 --> 00:16:33,758
When they brought her home,
348
00:16:33,758 --> 00:16:37,379
they had a very large party
to welcome her.
349
00:16:37,379 --> 00:16:39,758
She was dressed up in a dress.
350
00:16:39,758 --> 00:16:42,482
She had beautiful,
curly, dark hair.
351
00:16:42,482 --> 00:16:44,586
And Michael
was euphoric that day.
352
00:16:44,586 --> 00:16:47,103
He was almost
as euphoric as the day
Jacob was born
353
00:16:47,103 --> 00:16:49,172
and Michael came out of
the delivery room.
354
00:16:49,172 --> 00:16:50,655
He was a happy man.
355
00:16:52,103 --> 00:16:54,344
You want that?
There you go. Go sit and chew.
356
00:16:54,862 --> 00:16:56,068
Go show him.
357
00:16:56,862 --> 00:16:58,689
My name's Kimberly Franklin.
358
00:16:58,689 --> 00:17:01,344
I am Michael Barnett's
little sister.
359
00:17:01,931 --> 00:17:03,482
When I first met Natalia,
360
00:17:03,482 --> 00:17:05,172
I was, you know,
totally prepared.
361
00:17:05,172 --> 00:17:07,378
I knew that she was
a little person.
362
00:17:07,378 --> 00:17:09,378
And what really
struck me, though,
363
00:17:09,378 --> 00:17:11,758
was that she almost
looked like one of us.
364
00:17:11,758 --> 00:17:13,000
She had the dark hair.
365
00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,482
She really looked like
366
00:17:14,482 --> 00:17:16,172
she could've been
my brother's daughter.
367
00:17:21,689 --> 00:17:23,172
My name's Rachel
368
00:17:23,172 --> 00:17:26,378
and I live two doors down
from the Barnetts,
369
00:17:26,378 --> 00:17:27,758
where they used to live.
370
00:17:28,758 --> 00:17:31,000
Nosy neighbor, that's me.
371
00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,068
I like to know what's going on
in the neighborhood.
372
00:17:38,758 --> 00:17:40,758
We were friends
with Michael and Kristine
373
00:17:42,379 --> 00:17:43,758
and our kids played together.
374
00:17:44,586 --> 00:17:46,275
Everybody knew
who Natalia was.
375
00:17:46,275 --> 00:17:48,413
I have goosebumps
just thinking about
376
00:17:48,413 --> 00:17:49,931
when they walked in with her.
377
00:17:49,931 --> 00:17:51,551
It was amazing.
378
00:17:52,517 --> 00:17:54,275
It was so uplifting
379
00:17:54,275 --> 00:17:56,000
to know that this little girl
needed a home
380
00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,793
and they opened theirs
up to her.
381
00:17:57,793 --> 00:17:59,931
- Hi, Natalia.
- Hi!
382
00:17:59,931 --> 00:18:03,482
And Kristine was smiling,
you know, ear-to-ear.
383
00:18:03,482 --> 00:18:06,241
They were so excited.
They have three boys,
and they got a girl.
384
00:18:09,931 --> 00:18:11,931
I was looking forward
to seeing how
385
00:18:11,931 --> 00:18:14,103
she'd react to the park
we had across the street.
386
00:18:19,172 --> 00:18:20,827
Here's their yearbook.
387
00:18:22,758 --> 00:18:24,482
So, there's Ethan
388
00:18:24,482 --> 00:18:26,275
and there's Grace.
389
00:18:26,275 --> 00:18:27,689
Natalia came
to our house a lot
390
00:18:27,689 --> 00:18:29,000
to play with my daughter Grace
391
00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:33,275
because they were both six.
392
00:18:33,275 --> 00:18:34,655
First grade.
393
00:18:35,482 --> 00:18:36,827
Here's Natalia.
394
00:18:39,517 --> 00:18:40,827
It's crazy.
395
00:18:41,517 --> 00:18:43,000
She's so cute in that picture.
396
00:18:43,758 --> 00:18:45,551
She looks like
a sweet little girl.
397
00:18:46,931 --> 00:18:49,172
Once we got back
to Indiana,
398
00:18:49,172 --> 00:18:51,620
at first, there was
a lot of acceptance
399
00:18:51,620 --> 00:18:56,103
of the situation with Natalia
and the pubic hair.
400
00:18:56,103 --> 00:18:59,655
All that mattered was
there's a little girl...
401
00:19:00,758 --> 00:19:03,000
...that needs love
and needs a home.
402
00:19:05,689 --> 00:19:07,000
But, uh, eventually,
403
00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,000
we had a lot of
escalation going on
404
00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,965
in the first few months
that we had her.
405
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,241
There was a day
I came home from work.
406
00:19:15,172 --> 00:19:17,000
Kristine's got a pair
of Natalia's underwear.
407
00:19:18,172 --> 00:19:20,931
Kristine asked Natalia
to tell me what's going on.
408
00:19:25,275 --> 00:19:26,344
Okay.
409
00:19:27,482 --> 00:19:30,931
And I can remember
her physicalness at the time.
410
00:19:30,931 --> 00:19:32,931
Her hands were just
out in front of her like this.
411
00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,482
She said, "Well..."
412
00:19:37,172 --> 00:19:39,379
"...I have a period..."
413
00:19:39,379 --> 00:19:42,689
"...and I've been hiding it."
414
00:19:48,931 --> 00:19:50,448
And I...
415
00:19:51,862 --> 00:19:53,965
I just don't know
what's going on right now.
416
00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,482
Kris found some socks
417
00:20:00,482 --> 00:20:02,482
that she had used
in her underwear
418
00:20:02,482 --> 00:20:04,000
and threw them out the window.
419
00:20:04,758 --> 00:20:07,620
Kris was just mortified.
420
00:20:07,620 --> 00:20:11,275
She said, "This isn't normal.
What have I gotten
myself into?"
421
00:20:11,275 --> 00:20:14,172
And so I said,
"You need to start finding out
how old she is."
422
00:20:15,620 --> 00:20:18,862
I heard she had pubic hair
when they first got her
423
00:20:18,862 --> 00:20:21,586
and that they found, like,
period underwear
424
00:20:21,586 --> 00:20:23,172
hidden in her room.
425
00:20:23,172 --> 00:20:24,793
So that would be
the thing that,
426
00:20:24,793 --> 00:20:27,000
as, you know, not a doctor,
as a layman,
427
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,551
I'd be like, "Yeah, that's
definitely not a 6-year-old."
428
00:20:31,482 --> 00:20:33,172
- Stand up.
- Okay.
429
00:20:33,172 --> 00:20:34,862
After we'd first
gotten Natalia
430
00:20:34,862 --> 00:20:36,275
and we started
taking her to doctors,
431
00:20:36,275 --> 00:20:38,172
within two months
of getting her,
432
00:20:38,172 --> 00:20:41,482
Natalia needed foot surgery
because of her condition.
433
00:20:41,482 --> 00:20:43,103
Natalia has
a very rare form of dwarfism,
434
00:20:43,103 --> 00:20:45,000
spondyloepiphyseal dysplasia.
435
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,275
There's only about
3,400 people like that
on this planet,
436
00:20:48,275 --> 00:20:50,896
- we were explained by doctors.
- Mmm-hmm.
437
00:20:50,896 --> 00:20:53,344
It just so happened,
miraculously,
438
00:20:54,275 --> 00:20:56,000
that a doctor knew
439
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,482
another 6-year-old girl with
spondyloepiphyseal dysplasia
440
00:20:59,482 --> 00:21:00,758
living in Indiana.
441
00:21:01,931 --> 00:21:03,172
We were stunned.
442
00:21:04,103 --> 00:21:05,931
We're gonna have her meet
and interact
443
00:21:05,931 --> 00:21:07,931
with somebody just like her.
444
00:21:08,275 --> 00:21:10,000
How great is that?
445
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,758
The other girl comes in
446
00:21:13,482 --> 00:21:16,172
and, for lack of
a better term,
447
00:21:16,172 --> 00:21:17,931
Natalia is gigantic
448
00:21:17,931 --> 00:21:19,758
compared to this other girl.
449
00:21:24,172 --> 00:21:26,068
Their cranial structures
are different.
450
00:21:27,275 --> 00:21:29,758
Natalia, she's got
the full forehead of an adult,
451
00:21:29,758 --> 00:21:31,965
she's got the fine cheekbones
of an adult.
452
00:21:33,758 --> 00:21:36,689
The other girl, her head
is not developed at all.
453
00:21:37,689 --> 00:21:39,413
There's no way anybody
could look at this picture
454
00:21:39,413 --> 00:21:41,827
and say, "Those two
are the same age."
455
00:21:42,931 --> 00:21:45,620
So, when Natalia sees
this person
456
00:21:45,620 --> 00:21:47,758
that should be close to
the mirror image of her
457
00:21:48,275 --> 00:21:51,896
and realizes we see it,
458
00:21:51,896 --> 00:21:54,448
suddenly, she fills
her cheeks with air,
459
00:21:55,275 --> 00:21:56,758
blows them out a little bit
460
00:21:56,758 --> 00:21:59,379
so the definition in
her cheekbones disappears,
461
00:21:59,379 --> 00:22:03,172
so that starts to happen.
462
00:22:04,103 --> 00:22:07,689
We literally see
her head change.
463
00:22:10,931 --> 00:22:13,586
It's almost like,
"You got me."
464
00:22:22,586 --> 00:22:24,896
My name is Elva Reyes.
465
00:22:24,896 --> 00:22:26,379
My daughter's name is Therese.
466
00:22:26,379 --> 00:22:28,689
Uh, she has
diastrophic dysplasia,
467
00:22:28,689 --> 00:22:30,379
the same as Natalia.
468
00:22:30,379 --> 00:22:32,931
I was hoping, you know,
that, uh,
469
00:22:32,931 --> 00:22:35,275
a long friendship, you know,
470
00:22:35,275 --> 00:22:37,172
where they can grow up and,
471
00:22:37,172 --> 00:22:38,482
you know, she has somebody
472
00:22:38,482 --> 00:22:40,862
to be able
to talk about things.
473
00:22:40,862 --> 00:22:42,275
That mean it's not, you know,
474
00:22:42,275 --> 00:22:44,862
something that
she has to feel like
475
00:22:44,862 --> 00:22:46,758
she's the only one
in the world.
476
00:22:46,758 --> 00:22:49,931
Uh, but, later on,
when we met for the playday,
477
00:22:49,931 --> 00:22:51,758
immediately, Natalia looks...
478
00:22:51,758 --> 00:22:53,379
Physically, was really
well developed.
479
00:22:53,379 --> 00:22:55,896
My first impression was like,
480
00:22:55,896 --> 00:22:58,896
"Your face doesn't
look like a little kid."
481
00:22:58,896 --> 00:23:00,758
Can't really say an adult,
482
00:23:00,758 --> 00:23:02,344
but at least a teenager.
483
00:23:04,896 --> 00:23:07,689
And I say, "Huh, so..."
484
00:23:07,689 --> 00:23:10,172
Yes, but... And she was
very vocal, talking,
485
00:23:10,172 --> 00:23:11,344
you know, like,
486
00:23:12,586 --> 00:23:14,379
she can carry
a conversation very well,
487
00:23:14,379 --> 00:23:16,103
like, didn't have no issue.
488
00:23:16,103 --> 00:23:18,931
I was like,
"Wow, they teach her
very good English."
489
00:23:18,931 --> 00:23:21,379
A very smart kid
for a 6-year-old.
490
00:23:26,896 --> 00:23:28,586
I am Therese
491
00:23:28,586 --> 00:23:30,448
and I am 14 years old.
492
00:23:32,275 --> 00:23:35,241
I was six years old
when I met Natalia.
493
00:23:36,586 --> 00:23:38,482
It's pretty rare
to see someone
494
00:23:38,482 --> 00:23:40,172
who has a disability like me
495
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,482
and I wanted to be friends.
496
00:23:53,862 --> 00:23:55,862
- I have a picture of you guys.
- Mmm-hmm.
497
00:23:58,413 --> 00:23:59,655
Sure.
498
00:24:04,103 --> 00:24:07,482
Definitely, I don't think she
looked the same age as me.
499
00:24:07,482 --> 00:24:10,413
I definitely had that
baby look to my face and,
500
00:24:10,413 --> 00:24:13,586
as she kinda gave me, like,
501
00:24:13,586 --> 00:24:16,758
an older kinda face
look to it,
502
00:24:16,758 --> 00:24:17,931
but, yeah.
503
00:24:22,896 --> 00:24:24,482
I think she
definitely looks like
504
00:24:24,482 --> 00:24:28,965
she's at least 18, 20-ish.
505
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,931
It definitely looks weird
to think that
506
00:24:33,931 --> 00:24:36,758
I was playing with,
actually, an adult,
507
00:24:36,758 --> 00:24:38,689
not a kid my age
508
00:24:38,689 --> 00:24:40,655
that I would feel
comfortable with.
509
00:24:41,862 --> 00:24:44,103
If she faked her age,
510
00:24:44,103 --> 00:24:46,379
I feel like that's weird
to think that
511
00:24:46,379 --> 00:24:48,586
I was around someone
who did that.
512
00:24:51,931 --> 00:24:53,172
She's not six.
513
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,068
We had no idea
what we were dealing with.
514
00:24:57,172 --> 00:24:59,379
To them,
it would've looked like
515
00:24:59,379 --> 00:25:01,000
they brought their little girl
516
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,827
to a playdate with a grownup.
517
00:25:04,758 --> 00:25:07,689
And they never
reached back out again.
518
00:25:18,241 --> 00:25:21,000
Natalia told us
very little about her time
519
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,655
growing up in the Ukraine,
520
00:25:23,172 --> 00:25:25,310
her time in the orphanage.
521
00:25:26,862 --> 00:25:29,586
I don't recall her having
522
00:25:29,586 --> 00:25:31,379
any belongings
from the orphanage.
523
00:25:31,379 --> 00:25:35,482
Like, uh, I don't recall her
having any Ukrainian toys.
524
00:25:35,482 --> 00:25:37,965
She didn't seem to know
very much about Ukraine.
525
00:25:37,965 --> 00:25:40,965
Like, uh, at one point, early,
we asked her, like,
526
00:25:40,965 --> 00:25:42,965
"Oh, what's it like
in Ukraine?"
527
00:25:42,965 --> 00:25:45,103
And she said, "Oh,
it's always summer there."
And I'm like...
528
00:25:46,586 --> 00:25:48,241
"Hmm, okay, uh..."
529
00:25:54,482 --> 00:25:57,448
I forget the part that
you guys never hear.
530
00:26:00,586 --> 00:26:02,034
Yeah. Heard.
531
00:26:06,034 --> 00:26:07,482
We adopted Natalia
532
00:26:07,482 --> 00:26:09,965
because we wanted
to help somebody
533
00:26:09,965 --> 00:26:13,655
who was in danger
of never being loved.
534
00:26:15,275 --> 00:26:18,275
But every time we ever
spoke to Natalia about,
535
00:26:18,275 --> 00:26:20,482
"Hey, tell us
about the orphanage,
536
00:26:20,482 --> 00:26:22,206
tell us about
people you've known,"
537
00:26:24,379 --> 00:26:25,620
nothing.
538
00:26:26,965 --> 00:26:29,137
So we had asked her about
the Ukrainian language before.
539
00:26:29,137 --> 00:26:31,000
As a matter of fact,
at the rec center
540
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,896
where we had our sports league
for the autistic kids,
541
00:26:33,896 --> 00:26:35,482
one of the neighboring tenants
542
00:26:35,482 --> 00:26:36,896
happens to know somebody
543
00:26:36,896 --> 00:26:39,448
who was born and raised
in the Ukraine.
544
00:26:40,862 --> 00:26:43,137
We thought, "How wonderful
would it be
545
00:26:43,137 --> 00:26:45,689
for you to hear
your native language,
your native tongue
546
00:26:45,689 --> 00:26:48,586
for the first time
in a couple of years?"
547
00:26:48,586 --> 00:26:50,103
The woman from the Ukraine
comes in
548
00:26:51,137 --> 00:26:54,206
and just immediately starts
speaking Ukrainian.
549
00:26:56,344 --> 00:26:58,000
I swear on all things holy,
550
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,931
Natalia's never heard a word
of Ukrainian in her life.
551
00:27:01,586 --> 00:27:03,965
But you were there
until almost five
552
00:27:05,275 --> 00:27:07,862
and we've got you at six.
553
00:27:09,241 --> 00:27:12,827
There was like a set of things
that didn't add up.
554
00:27:14,137 --> 00:27:18,103
We starter...
Started early in the morning.
555
00:27:18,103 --> 00:27:20,793
Natalia had no accent.
556
00:27:20,793 --> 00:27:24,379
Were going close.
557
00:27:24,379 --> 00:27:26,551
She didn't know
the Cyrillic alphabet.
558
00:27:27,137 --> 00:27:29,034
She knew no Ukrainian.
559
00:27:31,241 --> 00:27:33,758
Ukrainian lady
starts speaking Ukrainian
to Natalia.
560
00:27:34,379 --> 00:27:35,551
Not a word.
561
00:27:36,689 --> 00:27:38,965
I think she knew,
if she spoke immediately,
562
00:27:39,586 --> 00:27:41,034
that we'd put
two and two together
563
00:27:41,034 --> 00:27:44,034
and hear there's no accent.
564
00:27:44,034 --> 00:27:46,103
She doesn't know this.
565
00:27:46,103 --> 00:27:47,827
Didn't speak a word
for four days.
566
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,034
It's almost like
the jig is up,
567
00:27:52,034 --> 00:27:54,965
the little playful
kid face goes away
568
00:27:55,586 --> 00:27:56,827
and now we've got...
569
00:28:01,793 --> 00:28:03,310
We don't know who she is.
570
00:28:04,379 --> 00:28:06,379
We don't know
where she's really from.
571
00:28:06,379 --> 00:28:08,586
For all I know, she had been
living in the Ukraine
for 20 years
572
00:28:08,586 --> 00:28:10,000
and found a way out.
573
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,896
For all I know,
she's an American citizen
574
00:28:11,896 --> 00:28:14,137
that somehow
got this to happen.
575
00:28:14,137 --> 00:28:17,448
I truly, truly don't know.
576
00:28:26,586 --> 00:28:30,689
The dynamic between Natalia
and the rest of the family
seemed to shift.
577
00:28:30,689 --> 00:28:33,862
Pretty early,
there was a lack of trust.
578
00:28:34,482 --> 00:28:35,655
Uh...
579
00:28:36,793 --> 00:28:39,206
So that, you know, compounded.
580
00:28:48,275 --> 00:28:51,965
Natalia did have
behavioral issues which...
581
00:28:53,482 --> 00:28:56,551
Certainly, the adoption
process, um,
582
00:28:57,379 --> 00:28:58,965
it must be traumatic.
583
00:28:58,965 --> 00:29:00,586
I mean, abandonment issues
are a thing
584
00:29:00,586 --> 00:29:05,103
and Natalia was abandoned
multiple times.
585
00:29:05,103 --> 00:29:08,241
She was with
another family in America
586
00:29:08,241 --> 00:29:09,551
before she came with us.
587
00:29:11,241 --> 00:29:13,241
Natalia was with us
four months,
588
00:29:14,689 --> 00:29:18,655
and that's when we start
to witness her dark side.
589
00:29:20,482 --> 00:29:22,862
We had a 2007 Jeep Commander.
590
00:29:22,862 --> 00:29:24,103
It has three rows of seats.
591
00:29:24,103 --> 00:29:25,689
But Natalia always tried
592
00:29:25,689 --> 00:29:27,689
to sit next to my youngest,
the smallest,
593
00:29:27,689 --> 00:29:29,586
my 6-year-old, Ethan.
594
00:29:29,586 --> 00:29:33,793
And she would do
whatever she could
to upset him.
595
00:29:33,793 --> 00:29:37,689
She would purposely wait
until she was next to him
in the car
596
00:29:37,689 --> 00:29:40,413
and then she would do her best
to urinate on him.
597
00:29:41,103 --> 00:29:42,689
She would defecate in the car
598
00:29:42,689 --> 00:29:44,103
and put her hand into it
599
00:29:44,103 --> 00:29:45,793
and try to smear it on Ethan.
600
00:29:45,793 --> 00:29:48,793
Yeah, it was
a frequent occurrence
601
00:29:48,793 --> 00:29:52,103
for Natalia to soil surfaces
602
00:29:52,103 --> 00:29:53,758
that she wasn't supposed to.
603
00:30:00,379 --> 00:30:03,034
That was the life
my 6-year-old son had.
604
00:30:03,034 --> 00:30:07,000
To get into the car
was like going through
the haunted house.
605
00:30:09,689 --> 00:30:11,034
And, you know, another thing,
606
00:30:11,034 --> 00:30:12,482
if we went someplace in public
607
00:30:12,482 --> 00:30:14,482
and she made eye contact
with somebody
608
00:30:14,482 --> 00:30:16,103
we'd climb into the car,
609
00:30:16,103 --> 00:30:18,379
she would get into the car,
she'd get in her seat,
610
00:30:18,379 --> 00:30:20,241
she'd close the door.
611
00:30:20,241 --> 00:30:22,793
As soon as I would start
to get into my seat
612
00:30:22,793 --> 00:30:24,689
and the car
would get into gear,
613
00:30:24,689 --> 00:30:27,482
doors open
and she's throwing herself
out of the vehicle
614
00:30:27,482 --> 00:30:29,448
so people around her can see.
615
00:30:33,689 --> 00:30:36,379
The idea, "Look, a poor,
helpless little girl."
616
00:30:36,379 --> 00:30:38,241
And she was trying to get back
617
00:30:38,241 --> 00:30:40,551
to poor,
helpless little girl status.
618
00:30:43,379 --> 00:30:45,689
She was doing
as many things as possible
619
00:30:45,689 --> 00:30:48,034
to cause hurt of harm
620
00:30:48,034 --> 00:30:50,482
or mental distress
to the entire family.
621
00:30:50,482 --> 00:30:53,689
She's been with us
for about five or six months
at this point,
622
00:30:53,689 --> 00:30:56,655
and at this time,
my boys are six, nine and 11.
623
00:30:57,793 --> 00:31:01,793
Natalia would find things
that were important to them,
624
00:31:01,793 --> 00:31:03,482
like a Hot Wheel car,
625
00:31:03,482 --> 00:31:06,896
she'd hide them,
she'd wait to be
crossing the street,
626
00:31:06,896 --> 00:31:09,448
she would throw 'em
into the street
and make sure the boys saw it.
627
00:31:09,896 --> 00:31:12,034
She was baiting my kids
628
00:31:12,034 --> 00:31:14,275
to run into traffic
so they'd get run over.
629
00:31:16,586 --> 00:31:18,000
I can't put into words
630
00:31:18,482 --> 00:31:21,586
the everyday abject horror
631
00:31:21,586 --> 00:31:23,206
that we had to go through
and live with.
632
00:31:26,034 --> 00:31:28,241
And there certainly
was, like, a lot of fear.
633
00:31:30,241 --> 00:31:34,551
Like, "What if Natalia
actually harms one of us?"
634
00:31:37,793 --> 00:31:41,655
Couple of weeks after that,
I came home from work.
635
00:31:42,965 --> 00:31:44,586
She had been taking knives
out of the kitchen
636
00:31:44,586 --> 00:31:46,827
and hiding them in her room
under her bed.
637
00:31:49,172 --> 00:31:50,862
I go upstairs.
638
00:31:50,862 --> 00:31:52,482
Kristine has the knife.
639
00:31:52,482 --> 00:31:54,551
It was a big butcher knife.
640
00:31:56,862 --> 00:31:59,896
Natalia was hoarding
knives in her room
641
00:31:59,896 --> 00:32:02,034
and had, like,
intentions to attack us.
642
00:32:05,482 --> 00:32:07,413
I asked Natalia,
"Natalia,
643
00:32:08,482 --> 00:32:10,000
did you have this
under your bed?"
644
00:32:10,482 --> 00:32:11,655
"Yes."
645
00:32:14,172 --> 00:32:15,758
"What were you
gonna do with it?"
646
00:32:17,034 --> 00:32:19,827
"I'm going to kill you
in your sleep."
647
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,896
Michael and Kristine
weren't very vocal
648
00:32:33,896 --> 00:32:37,034
about this stuff at first
with Natalia
649
00:32:37,793 --> 00:32:40,620
until it got overwhelming,
650
00:32:41,379 --> 00:32:44,896
and that's when Kristine
came and told me
651
00:32:44,896 --> 00:32:46,655
and sat down on my front porch
652
00:32:47,586 --> 00:32:48,965
with Wesley and Ethan
653
00:32:49,586 --> 00:32:51,758
and shared what was going on.
654
00:32:53,379 --> 00:32:54,793
Kristine was crying.
655
00:32:54,793 --> 00:32:56,172
She was very upset,
656
00:32:56,172 --> 00:32:58,965
saying that Natalia wasn't
657
00:33:00,068 --> 00:33:02,344
who they thought she was.
658
00:33:02,344 --> 00:33:05,551
And I said,
"Well, what do you mean?"
659
00:33:05,551 --> 00:33:06,793
And she said...
660
00:33:09,344 --> 00:33:10,758
..."Knives."
661
00:33:11,896 --> 00:33:13,241
She had knives in her room.
662
00:33:15,689 --> 00:33:17,068
The boys were like,
"Yeah. Yeah.
663
00:33:17,068 --> 00:33:19,482
This is really
happening. Yeah.
664
00:33:19,482 --> 00:33:21,344
This is... Natalia's
really doing that,"
665
00:33:21,344 --> 00:33:24,758
This is the time when
I backed away from them
666
00:33:25,379 --> 00:33:28,793
because I was just
in so much shock
667
00:33:28,793 --> 00:33:30,448
from hearing this story.
668
00:33:30,448 --> 00:33:33,551
I went to Grace and said,
669
00:33:33,551 --> 00:33:36,000
"You know what?
We need to find some new
friends to play with,"
670
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,413
'cause I didn't wanna have
anything to do with
that little girl.
671
00:33:39,896 --> 00:33:41,655
I didn't wanna have
anything to do with her.
672
00:33:42,275 --> 00:33:44,344
She wasn't welcome
in our house.
673
00:33:44,344 --> 00:33:46,344
I didn't want her to try
killing my daughter or me.
674
00:33:56,482 --> 00:33:58,344
Michael really
only told me
675
00:33:58,344 --> 00:34:00,793
by the time they'd
gone through all these things
676
00:34:00,793 --> 00:34:02,758
that he was afraid.
677
00:34:03,793 --> 00:34:05,137
Whether that meant he was
678
00:34:05,137 --> 00:34:08,447
afraid of what
she would do or could do,
679
00:34:08,447 --> 00:34:09,896
or any of that,
680
00:34:09,896 --> 00:34:12,034
I knew that there was fear.
681
00:34:14,172 --> 00:34:17,000
Absolutely,
we reached out
to the adoption agency
682
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,137
as we were noticing
all of these issues
and irregularities.
683
00:34:21,172 --> 00:34:22,413
They were unhelpful.
684
00:34:23,896 --> 00:34:25,379
I was lost.
685
00:34:25,379 --> 00:34:27,688
I was getting no help
from anybody anywhere.
686
00:34:27,688 --> 00:34:30,068
So we went through
a few therapists,
687
00:34:30,068 --> 00:34:31,688
trying to find guidance,
688
00:34:31,688 --> 00:34:33,413
trying to figure out
the right diagnosis.
689
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,413
Go inside.
690
00:34:37,275 --> 00:34:39,896
It was really
the third or fourth
therapist we got to
691
00:34:39,896 --> 00:34:44,068
that seemed to understand
what we were telling them
692
00:34:44,068 --> 00:34:45,585
and seemed to have
Natalia's number.
693
00:34:45,585 --> 00:34:47,757
She pulled Kristine
and I aside and said,
694
00:34:49,275 --> 00:34:51,516
"You're all in
extreme danger."
695
00:34:52,482 --> 00:34:55,137
At that point in time,
we already knew that.
696
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,448
We had been living that.
697
00:34:58,586 --> 00:35:02,034
So we were not stunned
at the danger,
698
00:35:02,034 --> 00:35:03,655
but we were stunned
at the diagnosis.
699
00:35:04,689 --> 00:35:07,344
We were expecting
a severe mental disorder
700
00:35:07,344 --> 00:35:08,793
that was out of her control.
701
00:35:08,793 --> 00:35:10,344
We were
expecting schizophrenia.
702
00:35:10,896 --> 00:35:12,448
We were expecting something.
703
00:35:12,448 --> 00:35:14,482
We were expecting her to say,
"She hears voices.
704
00:35:14,482 --> 00:35:17,241
She's hearing commands
telling her to do this stuff."
705
00:35:18,551 --> 00:35:20,758
So she tells us,
"She's a sociopath.
706
00:35:25,793 --> 00:35:28,517
She does things that you and I
would consider crazy.
707
00:35:29,379 --> 00:35:30,793
But it's a plan.
708
00:35:30,793 --> 00:35:32,034
She knows what she's doing.
709
00:35:32,034 --> 00:35:33,965
She's in control of doing it.
710
00:35:34,793 --> 00:35:37,689
It's not a diagnosis
where she's out of control
711
00:35:37,689 --> 00:35:39,034
and she can really be helped.
712
00:35:39,034 --> 00:35:41,344
She's a sociopath."
713
00:35:43,172 --> 00:35:45,620
That was the first moment from
a clinician that we heard,
714
00:35:46,793 --> 00:35:48,793
"You can't help here."
715
00:35:48,793 --> 00:35:51,068
You're 12 years old
and you're...
716
00:35:51,068 --> 00:35:52,793
You know,
just down the hallway is,
717
00:35:52,793 --> 00:35:54,241
is someone
who's living with you
718
00:35:54,241 --> 00:35:55,896
who actively wants
to harm you. That's very,
719
00:35:55,896 --> 00:35:59,068
That's a very scary feeling.
720
00:35:59,068 --> 00:36:01,206
And I definitely didn't
feel safe around Natalia.
721
00:36:01,689 --> 00:36:04,413
I just was scared.
722
00:36:11,068 --> 00:36:12,517
There was one night,
723
00:36:13,689 --> 00:36:15,206
about two o'clock
in the morning,
724
00:36:15,689 --> 00:36:16,965
we hear a noise.
725
00:36:18,448 --> 00:36:21,241
Kristine nudges me
and wakes me up.
726
00:36:21,241 --> 00:36:23,482
And I jump up,
I go looking for the noise,
727
00:36:23,482 --> 00:36:26,000
can't find it here,
I can't find it there,
728
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,517
I go down the hall
to Natalia's room,
open the door.
729
00:36:31,275 --> 00:36:32,517
It's dark.
730
00:36:34,068 --> 00:36:36,551
She's standing dead-center
in the middle of the room
731
00:36:37,793 --> 00:36:40,000
with a blank look on her face.
732
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,862
"Natalia, what are you doing?"
733
00:36:45,241 --> 00:36:46,517
"I'm waiting."
734
00:36:49,896 --> 00:36:51,413
"Waiting for what?"
735
00:36:53,482 --> 00:36:54,862
"For you to go to sleep."
736
00:37:00,586 --> 00:37:01,896
It was absolutely shocking
737
00:37:01,896 --> 00:37:06,448
to hear that an adopted child
738
00:37:06,448 --> 00:37:10,586
was threatening
the lives of her siblings
and her parents.
739
00:37:10,586 --> 00:37:12,862
I mean, it was really
disturbing to hear.
740
00:37:16,379 --> 00:37:19,896
One night,
asleep in bed,
everything's fine,
741
00:37:19,896 --> 00:37:22,275
I hear a little noise,
I open my eyes,
742
00:37:22,275 --> 00:37:24,517
and Natalia's standing
at the foot of the bed
743
00:37:25,172 --> 00:37:26,620
with a knife in her hand.
744
00:37:29,344 --> 00:37:30,965
What's going on?
745
00:37:31,793 --> 00:37:34,448
How much danger
are we really in here?
746
00:37:35,689 --> 00:37:38,344
Was I about to die?
What Kristine about to die?
747
00:37:38,344 --> 00:37:39,103
Were my kids about to die?
748
00:37:44,586 --> 00:37:46,103
I open my eyes,
749
00:37:46,103 --> 00:37:48,827
and Natalia's standing
at the foot of the bed
750
00:37:49,379 --> 00:37:50,620
with a knife in her hand.
751
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,000
No idea what she's thinking.
752
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,965
No idea what's
going through her head.
753
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,448
I'm frozen.
754
00:38:00,275 --> 00:38:03,413
"Natalia, what are you doing?"
755
00:38:04,586 --> 00:38:05,724
"Nothing."
756
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,344
"Why are you in here?"
757
00:38:10,655 --> 00:38:11,862
"I don't know."
758
00:38:11,862 --> 00:38:14,517
There's just this blank look.
759
00:38:15,103 --> 00:38:16,655
There's no emotion.
760
00:38:16,655 --> 00:38:19,000
There's no feeling
going through her.
761
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,448
It's just this blankness.
762
00:38:21,344 --> 00:38:22,931
"I don't know
what I'm doing here."
763
00:38:23,655 --> 00:38:25,448
"Natalia, put that down
right now."
764
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,241
And she did.
765
00:38:28,172 --> 00:38:29,896
"Natalia, go to your room
right now."
766
00:38:29,896 --> 00:38:31,310
And she did.
767
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,344
But, obviously,
I sat outside her door
for the rest of the night
768
00:38:38,068 --> 00:38:40,275
to make sure
she didn't come out,
769
00:38:40,275 --> 00:38:41,965
she didn't emerge,
something didn't happen.
770
00:38:48,655 --> 00:38:49,965
Knowing that,
771
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,068
that somebody like Natalia
772
00:38:54,068 --> 00:38:56,379
was living two doors down
from me
773
00:38:56,379 --> 00:38:59,827
and has, supposedly,
774
00:39:00,448 --> 00:39:02,172
tried to kill her family,
775
00:39:03,689 --> 00:39:06,379
thinking that there's a killer
in my neighborhood
776
00:39:06,379 --> 00:39:08,448
is mind-blowing,
777
00:39:09,172 --> 00:39:10,517
just mind-blowing.
778
00:39:11,241 --> 00:39:12,827
You think you know everybody.
779
00:39:13,896 --> 00:39:16,172
You've lived here for so long.
780
00:39:16,172 --> 00:39:19,344
You don't know everybody.
You don't know anybody.
You don't know anything.
781
00:39:21,896 --> 00:39:24,344
But it's scary.
It's very scary.
782
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,310
So, we start
going through lots of therapy.
783
00:39:30,862 --> 00:39:33,551
The cat was so heavy,
784
00:39:33,551 --> 00:39:36,689
I couldn't even lift it.
785
00:39:36,689 --> 00:39:38,965
You start going
through plausible deniability.
786
00:39:39,655 --> 00:39:41,551
You start to try
to convince yourself
787
00:39:42,482 --> 00:39:44,344
she wasn't meaning to harm us.
788
00:39:45,241 --> 00:39:46,896
This might seem strange.
789
00:39:46,896 --> 00:39:49,689
We never, ever
790
00:39:49,689 --> 00:39:51,103
said, "Let's take her back."
791
00:39:51,103 --> 00:39:52,758
We thought
we could help things.
792
00:39:52,758 --> 00:39:54,310
We thought
we could improve things.
793
00:40:01,862 --> 00:40:05,344
We wake up one morning and
Natalia is suddenly in happy,
794
00:40:05,344 --> 00:40:07,862
"I wanna be part of
the family" mode again.
795
00:40:07,862 --> 00:40:11,000
And she asks Kristine,
"Is there anything
I can do to help?
796
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,172
You're doing the dishes.
Can I help do the dishes?"
797
00:40:14,172 --> 00:40:17,103
So Kristine says, "Sure.
I'd really appreciate that.
798
00:40:17,103 --> 00:40:18,344
Thank you, Natalia."
799
00:40:18,896 --> 00:40:20,551
So Natalia gets on a stool
800
00:40:20,551 --> 00:40:23,379
and starts rinsing
the dishes off in the sink.
801
00:40:23,379 --> 00:40:25,172
Kristine goes to the other
room for a moment
802
00:40:25,172 --> 00:40:28,068
and she's got a coffee cup
sitting on the counter.
803
00:40:28,896 --> 00:40:30,448
Kristine comes back in.
804
00:40:32,241 --> 00:40:34,068
Kristine screams.
805
00:40:35,448 --> 00:40:37,137
I come racing downstairs.
806
00:40:38,241 --> 00:40:39,896
I see a bottle of Pledge.
807
00:40:39,896 --> 00:40:41,551
I see Kristine's coffee cup,
808
00:40:41,551 --> 00:40:43,103
and Kristine tried to drink it
809
00:40:43,103 --> 00:40:45,137
and instantly tasted Pledge.
810
00:40:47,275 --> 00:40:50,137
Cleaning supplies
had been poured into
Kristine's coffee cup.
811
00:40:50,896 --> 00:40:53,379
Kristine is screaming at her,
812
00:40:53,379 --> 00:40:55,413
"Natalia, why did you
do this?"
813
00:40:58,275 --> 00:41:00,896
And she just says,
plain old, straight out,
814
00:41:00,896 --> 00:41:02,931
"I'm trying to kill you.
I'm trying to poison you."
815
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,931
Yeah, I certainly have that,
uh, instinct now, like, uh,
816
00:41:10,448 --> 00:41:12,862
I can't really
share a drink with someone
817
00:41:12,862 --> 00:41:15,241
unless I've, you know,
818
00:41:16,103 --> 00:41:19,241
seen the surface of it
the entire time.
819
00:41:19,241 --> 00:41:22,758
Well, it's probably
rooted in this fear
820
00:41:22,758 --> 00:41:26,068
that Natalia's coming to,
821
00:41:28,448 --> 00:41:30,034
like, poison us.
822
00:41:31,862 --> 00:41:34,655
I guess I haven't really
figured out a way
to reconcile it,
823
00:41:34,655 --> 00:41:36,482
if I'm being honest.
824
00:41:36,482 --> 00:41:37,931
I'm still working through it.
825
00:41:41,448 --> 00:41:43,413
I think I might need a minute.
I'm sorry.
826
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,758
Natalia,
what are you doing?
827
00:41:55,482 --> 00:41:56,724
What is it?
828
00:41:59,482 --> 00:42:00,620
Why?
829
00:42:02,862 --> 00:42:04,172
Like what thoughts?
830
00:42:08,689 --> 00:42:10,379
What happens
when you have them?
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