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This Programme contains some strong Language.
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# How I wish How I wish you Were here
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# We're just two lost Souls Swimming in a Fish Bowl
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# Year After Year
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# Running over the Same old Ground
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# What We have found?
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# The Same old fears
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# Wish you Were here. #
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It did Stem from Those first four Notes
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That popped out one of the Guitar Day in King's Cross.
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Somehow, Those Notes evoked a Song About Syd
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and HIS Disappearance, Absence, if you Like, in Roger.
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It's My homage to Syd
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My heartfelt and Expression of My Sadness and ...
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for the Loss of the friend.
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# You Were caught in the crossfire
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# Of Childhood stardom and
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# Blown on the steel Breeze. #
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I Think the Song is Brilliant in ITS Sort of evocation of What
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Obviously Roger felt About Syd, and Certainly , it matches mine.
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What was I Think SO Important was not to try
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and write HIM out of History.
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# Come on, you Stranger
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# You legend, you Martyr
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# And shine! #
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There are no generalities, really, in That Song.
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It's not About, "All the Crazy Diamonds" , it's about Syd.
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AND THEY Vocalize EMIT noises
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When I first SAW the Floyd, I Remember ...
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I Mean, the first thing you Noticed was the Lights,
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Because nobody was doing That then. At least I hadn't seen it.
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But Syd Started to really shine.
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You know, you couldn ' t really take your eyes off him,
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even in the murk and the purple and green Blobs, you know,
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the bright-eyed Syd and his singing and his guitar playing
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kind of jumped out at you.
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# Blinding signs flap Flicker, flicker, flicker
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# Blam ... Pow! Pow!
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# Da, Da-Da, Da, Da-Da, Da-Da
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# Da-Da , da-da
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# Ooooh! #
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By the time I was working with Them in the Studio,
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IT Clear That was the Real Shape of creative the group emanated
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from Syd, Although,
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you know, IT Certainly was not Syd and backing Group.
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Syd was a very wonderful CHAP.
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Very, very witty. Very, very sharp.
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You know, He was out-going, charming, wonderful, Friendly.
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You Name it. I mean, a wonderful man.
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He was one of the Gang, I guess you'd Say.
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A good friend. Funny.
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Rather annoying, Though - Good Looking He was
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and Played Guitar and Could paint,
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Always HAD nice and Girlfriends.
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No-one That you really Ever Would have imagined
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Would wind up the way He did wind up.
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# Remember When you Were Young
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# You shone like the sun
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# Shine on, you Crazy Diamond. #
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# Little by Little The night Turns around
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# Counting the leaves Which Tremble at Dawn
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# Ah, aaah, AH, aaah, AH
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# Ah, aaah, AH, aaah, AH
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# Heart of the sun
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# Heart of the sun. #
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In this Post Dark Side Of The Moon period,
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We Were All having to ASSESS
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What We Were in this for Business,
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why We Were doing IT, Whether We Were Artists or Business People.
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Having Achieved the Sort of Success
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and money out of IT All That ...
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fulfil That Could anyone's wildest Teenage Dreams,
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why We still Would Want to Continue to do IT.
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Yeah, I remember the disappointment of Top Of The Pops
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or having the first hit single or whatever.
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It's not as world-shaking
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and as changing Perhaps you expect IT to be.
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So maybe, you know, Because of the enormous success
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of Dark Side, there was still That sense of,
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"Well, this Has not made us feel enormously different or satisfied. "
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Roger, I Think, Sometimes Has He Thinks That said
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That We Were kind of finished at that point,
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He and May have Been right.
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I Think We Were at a watershed then ,
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and We Could Easily have Split up then.
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And We did not, Because We Were Frightened
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of the Great out there, Beyond the Umbrella
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of this extraordinarily Powerful and Valuable Trade Name - Pink Floyd.
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It was the first Song They Played, and IT was Like, "Whoa,"
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IT was Like Singing About Syd Barrett.
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The Band That was known for Their musicality,
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They Were not doing Their Music Justice.
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Do you Recall there was a Famous Review by Nick Kent?
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How Could I forget?
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I kind of over-reacted, Obviously.
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I Mean, now I Feel That I over-reacted,
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but at the Same time, partly They deserved IT.
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It was a Bad Gig.
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It was, it was shambolic.
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I Mean IT was ... IT Lacked enthusiasm and IT Lacked a Sort of Purpose,
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a sense of Purpose, and I do not really know why.
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From My perspective now, to Look back upon How I felt then,
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as I was Scared of My Own Shadow, you know,
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Never Mind My Relationship with Audiences,
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and there Were Real Concerns About not making any Contact
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with the audience DURING That much of Tour of England
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That We did in 1974.
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And We did not. We were ... we were very disconnected.
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If We Were not Giving 100%, we couldn't quite sort out why not.
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You know, there was an element of Frustration
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in having someone tell us That.
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I Think We Probably knew it and couldn't quite sort of deal with it.
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That Review Would have Been one of the Things Which Would have -
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once we'd got over Our Initial IRE - We Would have Taken on Board
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and realised That there was More than a germ of Truth in IT.
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I was Asked to Record at the Floyd What was then Called
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the Empire Pool, Which is now the Wembley Arena,
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When I SAW and the Floyd before They Went on, They said,
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"Oh, do us a Favour, Will you go and sit with our sound engineer? "
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And I said, "OK."
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How Long is IT since you've been here, Brian?
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30 years.
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And Anyhow,
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"Well, What do you Think?" And I said, "It's rubbish."
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Because I'd Been Used to working with Smaller Groups
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on Smaller mixing desks, and theirs was massive.
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So anyway, Cut a Long Story Short,
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next thing I Knew, I was doing the next night at the Empire Pool.
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Oh, God, this does Take me back.
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And then I ended up doing the rest of the British tour.
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Somebody Better just run through this.
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And then, as I say, then came Wish You Were Here.
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There Were a Lot of days where We did not do anything,
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while Were They Thinking About ideas.
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That was The Reality We Were Struggling with making the Follow-up
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to Dark Side, and We Rushed back in to the Studio to do That.
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You know, We Ourselves put under a Sort of ridiculous pressure,
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in a way, Trying to make a Record from nothing.
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It was disengagement.
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It was not Being willing to Apply Yourself sufficiently.
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A Lot of Moments where any one of us Might have Been More much
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Interested in Thinking About What They Were doing That weekend.
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It Became a Case of two Would be in the Studio and two Were running
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or late, as IT was Always known, They Were Playing Squash out.
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And then We HAD the Dartboard with the Air Rifle.
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The Concentrated activity was rather Diluted,
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and I'm sure for a ...
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Like Roger, was IT More frustrating than IT was for anyone else,
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Although considerably frustrating for All of us, I Suspect.
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When I'm in the Studio, I'm there to do something,
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otherwise I'd rather be somewhere else, frankly.
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So I'm there to work.
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Well, you know, there's the argument Legendary
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That I must have HAD with the rest of Them About ...
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.. My Thought at the time IT That Would be Better to use
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the two Other Tracks as well That We HAD Been working on.
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I HAD to Fight David for a bit, as He acknowledges Completely,
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you know.
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We HAD a Completely Different idea About IT,
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That was and a ... That was a Fight That I Won.
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Dave SAW a Record That HAD Those two Songs and Shine On,
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and IT felt cobbled Together to me.
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It did not Feel Like Real.
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And SO at some Point in Process That, yeah,
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I Came up with the idea of, "No, this Has to be thematic,"
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and That's the way I expressed IT.
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This Will make this a More coherent work,
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Because IT's and More coherent,
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We've Been working on Boom Together and go, there you are, That's IT .
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There's one's That Song About Syd, but the rest of IT Is not.
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It's a much More Universal expression of my feelings
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About Absence ...
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.. Because I felt That We Were not really there,
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We Were very absent.
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I Remembered IT.
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# Come in here, dear Boy Have a Cigar
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# You're gonna go far. #
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"Come in here and have a Cigar,"
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you know, and Become a Star and Become Immortal.
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# You're gonna make IT if you try
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# They're gonna Love you. #
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You Become Part of the Whole Buying and selling Machine.
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It's High.
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I ??Think the Lyrics SO much Sum up the recording Business.
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Rock 'n' roll, MAN.
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# Come in here, dear Boy Have a Cigar
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# You're gonna go far. #
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The Record companies Were ... they were all-powerful, in a way.
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No-one Worked without a Record Deal in Those days,
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so they had a lot of power.
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You're not really an Individual longer any More,
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You're just ... you're a cipher,
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You're Playing a Part, You're a puppet.
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You're not your Own MAN.
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# The weather's just fantastic That is really What I Think
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# Oh , by the way Which one's Pink? #
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By the way, Which one is Pink?
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Which one's Pink?
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Which one's Pink?
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# And We did tell you The Name of the game, Boy?
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# We call IT Riding the gravy train. #
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It was felt Syd That's partly Madness HAD Come About
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through the Demands of the Record Industry.
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"You've HAD a hit, now I Want you to do Another hit."
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"I Want Another hit you, and I want another hit. "
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"And That's not as Good as your Last hit."
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"That's not as good as your last record, "you know,
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"And I Want you to do a Show Bigger and More Lights have
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"and More People."
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I Mean, IT's ...
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"Hey, All I wanted to do is to play a guitar
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"and write a Song, and Suddenly I'm in the Middle of All this."
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The Star thing does not make ... doesn't make you happy, you know.
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That, the Star thing, you CAN make Want to Withdraw from Society.
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# It's awfully considerate of you To Think of me here
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# And I'm Most Obliged to you For making IT Clear
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# That I'm not here. #
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Well, you Could Argue That Syd was Burned by the Music Business,
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but Actually, He was Probably Burned more by us.
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# And I Never Knew the moon ... #
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Sort of Syd HAD gone off the idea of doing Top Of The Pops,
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Sort of Being and Commercial.
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# .. Shoes and Brought me here. #
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I Think IT was not the Record Company Putting the pressure on, IT was us
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Putting the pressure on , because that's the way we wanted to go.
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# I do not Care If the sun does not shine
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# And I do not Care If nothing is mine
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# And I do not Care If I'm Nervous with you
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# I'll do My loving in the Winter. #
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# Come in here, dear Boy Have a Cigar
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# You're gonna go far
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# Fly High ... #
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With Have A Cigar,
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both of Them Knew That Neither of Them Could Sing IT.
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I Always Thought That Dave's Voice was not Deep Enough.
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# I've Always HAD a Deep Respect I Mean That Most Sincerely. #
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Yeah, That's Dave.
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# I Think the Band's fantastic That is really What I Think
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# By the way, Which one's Pink? #
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That's Roger.
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They wanted the Ferocity Which Gives Roger on Other Tracks.
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"Come in here, dear Boy, have a Cigar.
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"You're gonna go far."
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Roy was definitely one of the Great characters around for a Lot
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of Our Early ... Our Early life, really.
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We Used to do quite a Lot of Shows where Roy Would be on the bill.
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A Good Guy to have around.
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I was in Studio 2 and they were in Studio 3 .
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I Think Roy was rather Actually ...
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.. lacking in Momentum Himself.
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I Think We Were ...
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It did not seem to Affect Only Pink Floyd.
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You know, That's why I have this vision,
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I guess, of me Being in and out All the time, in and out, in and out.
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Very expensive recording time That He Would Spend just
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in Our Control Room chattering and ...
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Anyway, I digress.
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Roger was really Struggling with IT,
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and then Dave ... then they both tried.
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There was a Lot of arguing About How We Were going to do IT
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and how we were going to make it work.
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At one Point Roy, Who was in the Room, Piped up and said ...
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I just said, "I'll do IT if you Like, for a price."
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# I've Always HAD a Deep Respect and I mean that most sincerely
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I Mean, Roy really put this in HIS Heart.
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I Mean, I CAN Picture HIM now ...
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# Which one's Pink? #
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.. Putting HIS Heart and Soul in to IT,
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as if HIS life depended on IT.
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# You gotta Get an album out You Owe IT to the People
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# We're SO Happy We Hardly CAN count. #
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I Mean, the Lyrics ...
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If I'd have Written Those Lyrics, I'd Feel well pleased.
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# And We did tell you The Name of the game, Boy
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# We call the IT Riding gravy train. #
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It was Played Millions of times around the World as a single.
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That was My vocals on a .. . You know, really ...
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a kind of a number one selling single.
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Everybody Thought IT was Roger.
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I was a bit peed off About That.
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if I Think I'd Sung IT, IT Would be More vulnerable
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and Cynical less than the way He did IT.
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But That's not the way Roy sings.
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He Went off and did IT and did a Great job, and thank you very much.
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I do not Think Roger liked his version terribly much,
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but I Think HIS version is the perfect version.
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He was a Singing Sort of parody , anyway ...
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.. Which I do not Like. I never liked it.
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The Worst of IT is That Sometimes When I'm doing,
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you know, When I'm doing a gig ...
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.. there's some wag'll shout, "Have A Cigar", you know.
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I Regret IT, and That's not
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cos I've got anything Against Roy, I have not, you know.
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I Think if I'd persevered with IT, Would I have Done Better IT.
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# Come in here, dear Boy Have a Cigar
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# You're gonna go far
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# You're gonna fly High
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# You're gonna Never Die You're gonna make IT if you try
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# They're gonna Love you. #
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I was SO unbelievably thrilled
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to be there, and I was just very Young,
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I was just About 21.
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There is Actually a rather nice Picture of me
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That took Nick Mason, and IT Sort of Sums up, Because I just Look
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Wide-Eyed and,
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you know, thrilled is the Only Word, I Think.
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I'd Baked some fairy Cakes,
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and I thought it would be a good idea to bring them to the studio.
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There's this wonderful Sequence of Roger Proving That He did
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Enjoy the cake.
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That I Think Nick took These Pictures,
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Because I can not imagine That I had the courage to sort of,
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you know, Take Them, but Perhaps I did.
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Roger is in the driving seat in these pictures,
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as far as the Studio's Concerned, and Perhaps Position That is hard.
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But , actually, it's probably better
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if just one person is in the Driving seat.
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Roger, Actually, you know , kept a tight hold on the helm,
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and That's What He - That's What He did.
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And, you know, you can't gainsay that,
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Because the Records, you know, the very Records Were Good.
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Dark Side was just a such a sort of thing.
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All the Pieces fell into Place,
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or as Nick Mason says,
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"The drumming did IT."
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So I Think That That was quite hard to Deal with.
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What do you do next? What do you do to top it?
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What do you do to be Different?
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Well, I could not draw,
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SO Fantasy Pictures Were out.
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I could not paint, SO artsy fartsy was out.
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I was not a graphic Designer, and Also, I was not Interested
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in Band Pictures, Because I found a Them bit dull, you know, a group
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of four musicians Who Play Guitar, Bass or Drums and Keyboards
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Would seem to me to be four musicians. They could be anybody.
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We Always felt Representing the Music That was the order of the Day.
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I know, it sounds radical, even revolutionary!
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So in order to Represent the Music, one did not really Want to be limited
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in the Great palette of Art and life to a Picture of four Geezers.
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We'd Mostly, in Those days, left to IT Storm to Come up with
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Things Which We Would Give HIM a Desultory two minutes
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Our Mixing of time, to Say That one, maybe, That one , not that, not that.
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They Were recording at Abbey Road, and I Remember going there,
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and I remember I was very ...
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I was very Nervous doing in the Presentation.
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He Came up with These - this, you know, from the lyrics,
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from this Theme of Absence, and IT just Seemed Like a Good very idea.
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I Remember Getting a Little Round of applause.
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I was gratified Most, I CAN tell you.
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Storm, actually, is probably one of the most argumentative people
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Could you Ever Meet.
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Roger and Storm Would have these intense conversations
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over Fine Wines and SO on.
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Roger Storm and two Were Great intellects and, you know,
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there was Sparks flying in Their Brains, Those two.
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I got very pre-Occupied with four, with the number four.
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There Were four Words in the title, four members of the Band,
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and four Elements to life - air, fire, water and earth.
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So the first thing was Done That was a postcard.
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The postcard said "Wish You Were Here."
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Po found this fantastic Location, Called Mono Lake,
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Which is such an amazing location
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That you just Could Photograph About a plastic Duck in IT
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and you'd Like IT.
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We Always Thought there was an element of Storm loving to Find
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the Most expensive, Distant Location in the World
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SO He Could go off and have a jolly Little for a FEW days at Our Expense.
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This Guy is doing a Yoga Position
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in a Yoga chair locked into the mud,
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Poor MAN, with a Breathing apparatus on.
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And He HAD to hold HIS Breath SO I did not Get any bubbles.
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That's All for Real shot. That's not airbrushed or cut or anything.
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That was a moment in time on a Magical Evening,
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with amazing Light .
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Did That Take a Long time to set up, That shot?
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A fucking Long time.
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This shot was a Pain in the Arse.
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I Came to the Notice of Pink Floyd,
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I Thought That I Would do a kind of a diary Visual
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of Americana at That time.
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So I Drew Everything That I Could Think of at the time,
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Like Black Power, Playboy magazine, Mickey Mouse.
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Hi, guys.
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There was a fantastic Mickey Mouse sequence, where Mickey
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Goes from Being the mouse to Sort of Being a Drug crazed mouse.
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HE SIGHS
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Hey, MAN. That was far out, man.
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Mickey's such a clean Living Guy, and there He was ...
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. . on drugs.
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Thought I was absolutely Brilliant IT, and I just Thought
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this, We Could really .. .
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It'd be Great to work with someone Who Produced
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something Like this.
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And I took IT to Roger and Roger and Roger Showed loved IT.
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It was very Awkward, Like All relationships at the Beginning,
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Because They wanted one thing from me,
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and I was not Coming up with the Goods, I felt.
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When I Say this to Roger Today, He says, "Oh, I do not Remember That."
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I just remember it was an enormous relief
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After a Lot of the Visually flailing around
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That we'd Done with Dark Side Of The Moon.
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I Think the Sandman is a particularly Great Image.
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You know, the Fact That We ' re all bits of sand that can blow away,
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I Think IT's just an idea I HAD, really.
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I wanted to do the impermanence of life or whatever, you know.
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It All Sounds rather ... pretentious crap, really.
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The Beginning of the Record Sounds very Melancholy,
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and is very Melancholy is and Melancholy Music .
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Sort of Blues,
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IT's a Sort of G Minor Blues Whole That first Six or seven minutes.
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We found a Mood Obviously That We wanted to not exactly jam to,
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but Play around with and Find something within.
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And We Were Never too afraid of leaving quite a Long period
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of time before Instrumental Came in vocals.
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You See, at the time, IT was a Case of let's See What works.
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So then, hence, the Wine glass tape came out.
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The Wine glasses Were Recorded an album for
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They Were going to make Called Household Objects,
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Which We HAD a loop on
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and then Rick then built up the sound
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with synthesisers and Organ.
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They wanted a Big sound, SO was the Guitar Recorded
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in a different studio,
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SO hence the click Track.
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He put HIS Amplifiers and speakers down in Studio one .. .
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.. Being a Classical Music Studio, and then mic'd IT from a Distance.
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I Think IT comes across on the album.
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You Could Picture IT Being Played out somewhere in an Auditorium.
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This Will be Rick featured on the end of Shine On,
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He really where Came in to HIS element.
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You have a Hammond Organ on there, you have grand piano ...
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.. plus the Synthesised Other Instruments He Plays.
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I CAN 't remember exactly what synthesiser that was,
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but this is Richard's ... Trademark.
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He's a Great piano player,
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and does Highlight, I Think, HIS Classical Training.
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And I Think if he'd HAD Another 20 minutes, you would have heard
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Probably Like a Rick Wright Concerto.
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And at the very end, where He does the tribute to Syd Barrett,
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I do not Remember That if Rick was just Thinking of That
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at the spur of the moment.
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That was a nice ... a nice touching thing.
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He was kind of a Crazy Diamond,
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and the All Things IT says About HIM
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in Brilliant Those lines are very, very Accurate, you know.
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"You wore out your welcome with Random Precision" ,
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Certainly was a Part of HIM.
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# Well, you wore out your welcome With Random Precision
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# Rode on the steel Breeze
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# Come on, you Raver,
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# You SEER of Visions
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# Come on, you Painter, Piper you
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# You Prisoner, and shine ! #
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My Memory is That We Were recording a Radio One Show
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at the BBC ...
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.. and Syd did not Turn up.
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And I Think IT was a Friday.
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And no-one Could Find HIM.
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So Basically We Waited and Waited, and I Think
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We HAD to cancel the recording, or We tried to do some without HIM,
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I'm not sure, and then the managers Went off Trying to Find HIM.
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And When They found Syd, Which I Think was a Sunday or Monday,
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They Told us, "Well, something's happened to Syd. "
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And something HAD happened to HIM, Total Difference.
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And I Remember HIM Like Being right this, and looking in his eyes,
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and IT was just Like ...
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HE MAKES CLICKING NOISE
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.. HAD Somebody Turned the Lights out, you know,
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He just Looked SO blank.
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He was a Living with a Whole Sort of Community of People Who Were
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very much Believing acid CAN Release you and, you know,
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Get to the Truth and All That stuff,
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... and He took too much.
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And He Went up on stage
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and He just Stood there for Long stretches
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and he'd play the guitar for a bit and then he'd stop.
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He HAD SO much Damage Done, Because acid, That's What IT does to you.
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Too much acid literally Will Fry your Brains.
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# Nobody Knows where you are
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# How near or How far
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# Shine on, you Crazy Diamond. #
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We Were Unable to help Syd and Probably, I will not deliberately Say,
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but HAD Our Own interests at heart, and so consequently
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Probably tried to hold on to HIM for far longer than We Should have Done.
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Syd left the band in 1,968.
four hundred ninety-six
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Only Syd was around for one That Record, IT was a tiny Piece.
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It was a very important piece, it was the opening piece
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of the Pink Floyd Story, and IT May well be That Pink Floyd
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Would Never have Started and Never Would have Carried on
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and nothing Would have happened. We will never know.
501
00:36:23,180 --> 00:36:29,526
He was a hindrance to the Real Band in many Ways.
502
00:36:29,526 --> 00:36:34,276
Having That said, We simply wouldn't have got to where we got to.
503
00:36:34,276 --> 00:36:36,830
There Would be no Dark Side Of The Moon if Syd
504
00:36:36,830 --> 00:36:41,380
hadn't Been around to us on Take That first major Step.
505
00:36:55,669 --> 00:36:58,662
I found IT SO upsetting working with Syd in Those days.
506
00:36:58,662 --> 00:37:02,294
It was Like Trying to ... Sort of Seeing someone drowning
507
00:37:02,294 --> 00:37:05,566
and Trying to pull out Them, but They kept on slip ... you know,
508
00:37:05,566 --> 00:37:07,962
the Hand Slipped away All the time.
509
00:37:07,962 --> 00:37:10,835
We Were Hoping That IT Would be Therapeutic for HIM
510
00:37:10,835 --> 00:37:13,469
and help HIM Might Come back.
511
00:37:13,469 --> 00:37:16,343
Trying ... IT was Like Trying to Bring HIM back.
512
00:37:16,343 --> 00:37:18,179
"Come back, Syd, Come back."
513
00:37:25,004 --> 00:37:28,795
And there was likely to be Never any way back, and That is ...
514
00:37:31,629 --> 00:37:35,380
.. quite awful to Think About.
515
00:37:35,380 --> 00:37:40,689
MUSIC GUITAR
516
00:37:59,567 --> 00:38:03,558
# You reached for the Secret too soon
517
00:38:06,512 --> 00:38:08,946
# You Cried for the moon
518
00:38:10,303 --> 00:38:15,253
# Shine on you Crazy Diamond. #
519
00:38:16,290 --> 00:38:18,566
And of Course, They loved Their ooohs,
520
00:38:18,566 --> 00:38:19,642
We just SO oooh'd Them,
521
00:38:19,642 --> 00:38:22,117
Saying, "Shine on, you Crazy Diamond," and just oooh'd
522
00:38:22,117 --> 00:38:23,873
the rest of the way. They loved ooohs.
523
00:38:27,026 --> 00:38:31,177
and Carlena Venetta, Soulful and Being Americans,
524
00:38:31,177 --> 00:38:32,694
was a wonderful Contrast
526
00:38:37,243 --> 00:38:39,718
I did not know Them from a bar of soap,
527
00:38:39,718 --> 00:38:42,393
and I didn't like their music in the beginning.
528
00:38:42,393 --> 00:38:44,867
It was All in a Minor Key, All IT was very Low,
529
00:38:44,867 --> 00:38:49,058
Everything was oohs and ahhs and. Who are these people?
530
00:38:49,058 --> 00:38:53,847
Thought I was Meticulous Motown, but this was the Most Meticulous
531
00:38:53,847 --> 00:38:57,918
four musicians that I had ever seen work before.
532
00:38:57,918 --> 00:39:01,949
And something in me Told My Head, "Venetta,
533
00:39:01,949 --> 00:39:05,181
" you're here for a reason, you must enjoy this music,
534
00:39:05,181 --> 00:39:08,055
"you must Get on with this Music, cos You're here,
536
00:39:10,171 --> 00:39:15,080
They Managed Their job to do without Getting involved in the Band
537
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,831
Politics, SO Those two very Were Good at just ..
538
00:39:18,831 --> 00:39:23,261
You know, We All Might be furious with each Other
540
00:39:26,016 --> 00:39:29,727
Dinner at the table or in the Car on the way to the Show or whatever,
541
00:39:29,727 --> 00:39:33,200
and they'd just be very, very relaxed and just Get on with IT.
542
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,716
And They Always beautifully Sang.
543
00:39:34,716 --> 00:39:39,745
One of My fondest, fondest Memories of Being with Pink Floyd
544
00:39:39,745 --> 00:39:43,018
recording Shine On You Crazy Diamond,
545
00:39:43,018 --> 00:39:47,129
Because That was the Only thing That We Actually got to Record with Them,
546
00:39:47,129 --> 00:39:49,883
as Opposed to Singing-Performing Dark Side Of The Moon.
547
00:39:49,883 --> 00:39:52,956
That was the So Great About IT thing, We Actually got on a Record.
548
00:39:52,956 --> 00:39:59,302
# Shine on, you Crazy diamond. #
549
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,036
Welcome To The Machine.
550
00:40:11,036 --> 00:40:15,067
They just wanted bits of ad-hoc animation bunged into the Show
551
00:40:15,067 --> 00:40:16,703
Willy nilly. And, of Course,
552
00:40:16,703 --> 00:40:21,493
I HAD My Little Team of animators Who are Strictly Trained to work
553
00:40:21,493 --> 00:40:25,564
to a Track, and without a Track, They do not know What to do.
554
00:40:25,564 --> 00:40:27,560
And I Used to go and tell Roger this,
555
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,591
and He said, "It does not Matter About a Track, just let Them do something."
556
00:40:33,706 --> 00:40:38,216
I Assume He made ??All That Heard having spherical stuff
557
00:40:38,216 --> 00:40:43,404
the VCS3 throbbing at the Beginning of Welcome To The Machine.
558
00:40:44,961 --> 00:40:47,515
Boom, Boom, Boom, Boom ... All of That stuff.
559
00:40:47,515 --> 00:40:50,069
HE CLICKS AND WHIRS
560
00:40:52,264 --> 00:40:57,414
When it came to Welcome To The Machine,
561
00:40:57,414 --> 00:41:02,122
I Think Roger was really Getting into HIS synthesisers.
562
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,353
So, hence you have all these different effects.
563
00:41:09,826 --> 00:41:15,293
I Mean, some of These noises are, to me, just futuristic.
564
00:41:17,250 --> 00:41:20,202
I loved that machine.
565
00:41:20,202 --> 00:41:22,717
I Used a Lot IT back in the Day.
566
00:41:22,717 --> 00:41:28,265
I've still got one. It's still good for wind and explosions.
567
00:41:28,265 --> 00:41:31,777
throbbing
568
00:41:31,777 --> 00:41:34,053
See, and the throb
569
00:41:34,053 --> 00:41:39,760
Basically What is Roger Would have Played on Bass.
570
00:41:42,035 --> 00:41:45,028
He adds to IT later on with the Real Bass.
571
00:41:45,028 --> 00:41:48,619
throbbing AND BASS
572
00:41:50,576 --> 00:41:53,410
The Only Real Instruments That are really on there are
573
00:41:53,410 --> 00:41:55,166
Dave's acoustics.
574
00:41:55,166 --> 00:41:56,642
'One, two, Three, four ...'
575
00:41:56,642 --> 00:41:59,555
GUITAR
576
00:42:02,070 --> 00:42:05,263
DRUMS
577
00:42:07,178 --> 00:42:09,813
To Add a bit More to the aggression of the Song,
578
00:42:09,813 --> 00:42:13,924
and the timps Cymbals Were added.
579
00:42:20,749 --> 00:42:24,141
It just sounded very Angry Like a Song to me, Always did.
580
00:42:24,141 --> 00:42:25,258
Very Angry.
581
00:42:25,258 --> 00:42:28,651
Somebody That was something out of Getting Their system.
582
00:42:28,651 --> 00:42:31,645
# Welcome, My Son
583
00:42:32,722 --> 00:42:37,512
# Welcome to the Machine
584
00:42:43,099 --> 00:42:45,774
# Where have you Been?
585
00:42:47,449 --> 00:42:50,922
# It's All We know right where you've been
586
00:42:53,476 --> 00:42:57,268
This Particular Creature I Created,
587
00:42:57,268 --> 00:42:59,623
I Remember Showing IT to the Gang,
588
00:42:59,623 --> 00:43:02,616
Sort of Who Went Along with Everything I said at That Point,
589
00:43:02,616 --> 00:43:05,610
They did not Correct Sort of anything.
590
00:43:05,610 --> 00:43:07,884
Roger, particularly, That Has this idea
591
00:43:07,884 --> 00:43:10,718
if you hire an artist,
592
00:43:10,718 --> 00:43:12,754
you do not try and Change What That artist does,
593
00:43:12,754 --> 00:43:15,148
you hire an artist for What He does.
594
00:43:15,148 --> 00:43:20,616
Gerry Has a very Similar kind of bolshie Attitude ...
595
00:43:20,616 --> 00:43:25,605
Towards All status quo and All the Powers That be That I do.
596
00:43:25,605 --> 00:43:31,193
# So, welcome ...
597
00:43:31,193 --> 00:43:34,984
# To the Machine. #
598
00:43:34,984 --> 00:43:37,539
And the sea of blood that comes towards us
599
00:43:37,539 --> 00:43:40,452
and crashes through the steel towers.
600
00:43:40,452 --> 00:43:41,969
God Knows What's About IT.
601
00:43:41,969 --> 00:43:46,997
But I Thought IT was a very kind of a strong Image, a sea of Blood.
602
00:43:46,997 --> 00:43:52,945
I really did Piece by Piece Add the animation, so when I'd done
603
00:43:52,945 --> 00:43:57,055
the sea of Blood, said Roger Probably We need IT a bit longer.
604
00:44:01,446 --> 00:44:05,796
So then the sea of Blood HAD to Turn into hands, Praying,
605
00:44:05,796 --> 00:44:07,233
grasping hands,
606
00:44:07,233 --> 00:44:10,187
kind of lost Hopeless hands, I suppose,
607
00:44:10,187 --> 00:44:13,498
Searching for some god or some reason to IT All.
608
00:44:17,250 --> 00:44:19,127
You Could Say That To Welcome The Machine
609
00:44:19,127 --> 00:44:23,038
is Only About My Experience in the Music Industry ...
610
00:44:24,475 --> 00:44:27,947
It's not, IT's About All of Our experience
611
00:44:27,947 --> 00:44:30,701
in the Face of That monstrous,
612
00:44:30,701 --> 00:44:34,972
That thing Grinding Chews us up and spits us out.
613
00:44:42,355 --> 00:44:46,107
In the Meetings That Storm and I HAD, one of the Topics
614
00:44:46,107 --> 00:44:49,339
Somebody was Getting Burnt in the Business, you know,
615
00:44:49,339 --> 00:44:53,012
Which was an Expression at the time. "Man, I've Been Burned."
616
00:44:53,012 --> 00:44:59,158
You know, SO, what more logical, kind of, concept, if you like,
617
00:44:59,158 --> 00:45:02,949
Would be than two Men shaking hands and is one of Them Getting Burnt?
618
00:45:02,949 --> 00:45:06,781
And both We Went, "Yeah!" Maybe Because IT was SO outrageous.
619
00:45:06,781 --> 00:45:09,495
And These are the days before computers,
620
00:45:09,495 --> 00:45:11,530
SO IT Meant Setting a MAN on Fire, Which We did.
621
00:45:11,530 --> 00:45:14,524
Yeah, IT was not very Difficult. Issuing Orders from the Bunker,
622
00:45:14,524 --> 00:45:16,639
IT's really Easy. "Over the top, Men."
623
00:45:21,628 --> 00:45:26,258
Anyway, Done That was for Real in a Studio lot in Hollywood.
624
00:45:26,258 --> 00:45:30,688
What Could be More than absent a Studio Lot?
625
00:45:32,883 --> 00:45:36,076
I believe IT was a Warner Brothers Lot .
626
00:45:36,076 --> 00:45:37,233
I was doing a Lot
627
00:45:37,233 --> 00:45:39,628
of Fire work in Those days,
628
00:45:39,628 --> 00:45:41,823
and I HAD the Special Suits
629
00:45:41,823 --> 00:45:43,140
All this stuff and
630
00:45:43,140 --> 00:45:46,852
for full Envelop Fire, but a partial is basically,
631
00:45:46,852 --> 00:45:51,003
you know, a safe Pretty, Pretty Easy one to do.
632
00:45:51,003 --> 00:45:53,797
And ... In most cases.
633
00:45:53,797 --> 00:45:58,147
He HAD ... a Team of 20 people around him with fire extinguishers,
634
00:45:58,147 --> 00:46:00,782
Ready to Deal with any emergency.
635
00:46:00,782 --> 00:46:02,936
MAN The Effects Will Step out
636
00:46:02,936 --> 00:46:06,808
and He's got a wand About That Long with a Fire on the end of it,
637
00:46:06,808 --> 00:46:10,719
They and go, "We're Ready, Action, and He just touches the Three
638
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,071
or four spots Like That, steps out, Everything is burning,
639
00:46:14,071 --> 00:46:19,380
and IT's still a Picture, SO ... Shake shaking hands -
640
00:46:19,380 --> 00:46:20,857
nothing to IT.
641
00:46:20,857 --> 00:46:24,888
And After I HAD About shot, I suppose, 15 shots,
642
00:46:24,888 --> 00:46:27,961
and 15 times for somebody to catch fire is rather a lot,
643
00:46:27,961 --> 00:46:29,638
Suddenly a Gust of Breeze Came up.
644
00:46:29,638 --> 00:46:32,591
And the fire whipped round his face.
645
00:46:32,591 --> 00:46:35,066
There's a Funny thing About Fire - When IT Gets in your Face
646
00:46:35,066 --> 00:46:38,857
you 're going to move, that's just part of the thing.
647
00:46:38,857 --> 00:46:42,409
And once IT IT blew around, I Turned as fast as I Could.
648
00:46:42,409 --> 00:46:46,041
He fell to the Ground, absolutely Smothered with foam
649
00:46:46,041 --> 00:46:48,875
and Blankets and Everything Like That. He got up and he said,
650
00:46:48,875 --> 00:46:50,671
"That's IT, no More."
651
00:46:50,671 --> 00:46:52,866
Luckily, I got in the IT can.
652
00:46:52,866 --> 00:46:55,141
And here We See HIS Foot leaving frame.
653
00:46:55,141 --> 00:46:59,291
And That's a Sort of surreal Image of Absence in Itself , you know?
654
00:46:59,291 --> 00:47:00,808
But That's Real Absence.
655
00:47:00,808 --> 00:47:03,083
Out of frame, out of sight, you know?
656
00:47:03,083 --> 00:47:04,679
And you just kept shooting?
657
00:47:04,679 --> 00:47:06,037
I just kept shooting, yeah.
658
00:47:06,037 --> 00:47:08,152
I Mean, I HAD to Get this shot and IT HAD to be right.
659
00:47:08,152 --> 00:47:13,700
So, you know, I did not have time to be Concerned with HIS Singed body.
660
00:47:13,700 --> 00:47:17,132
You know, if They Want Somebody burning and they're going to Pay me,
661
00:47:17,132 --> 00:47:21,003
I Don ' t care if they have an artist drawing the fire.
662
00:47:27,430 --> 00:47:30,702
When Developing a Theme of Absence,
663
00:47:30,702 --> 00:47:33,096
IT Seemed therefore Appropriate that in the end,
664
00:47:33,096 --> 00:47:34,613
Should the cover be absent.
665
00:47:34,613 --> 00:47:37,767
The ... UM ... Got it here.
666
00:47:37,767 --> 00:47:39,921
The ... UM ...
667
00:47:39,921 --> 00:47:43,793
This is the end Piece, or the end Part of the puzzle.
668
00:47:43,793 --> 00:47:46,188
Anyway, the Record Company, Especially in America,
669
00:47:46,188 --> 00:47:47,625
Went Complete apeshit.
670
00:47:47,625 --> 00:47:50,658
"You Mean wrap Wish You Were Here in Black Opaque Shrink wrap
671
00:47:50,658 --> 00:47:54,130
"you can not See SO IT? Are you completely fucking mad? "
672
00:47:54,130 --> 00:47:57,403
But you HAD to have a Sticker That said What IT was,
673
00:47:57,403 --> 00:48:00,237
otherwise the factory wouldn't pack it properly,
674
00:48:00,237 --> 00:48:01,714
let alone the Fans Buy IT.
675
00:48:03,310 --> 00:48:06,862
I Hear Stories That there are some aficionados ...
676
00:48:08,259 --> 00:48:12,410
.. Who have ... Who have HAD HAD Wish You Were Here for many a Year now,
677
00:48:12,410 --> 00:48:16,441
and have Carefully slit the Opaque Vinyl Shrink wrap
678
00:48:16,441 --> 00:48:18,756
and the Extracted Record
679
00:48:18,756 --> 00:48:21,629
and have not Actually Seen the cover in 35 years.
680
00:48:21,629 --> 00:48:25,541
Brilliant. That's really absent.
681
00:48:38,432 --> 00:48:41,625
Well, That's the one I CAN quite Clearly Remember .
682
00:48:44,778 --> 00:48:47,811
That was me strumming a 12 string guitar,
683
00:48:47,811 --> 00:48:51,124
Which I'd recently Purchased from a Guy I know,
684
00:48:51,124 --> 00:48:53,719
Coming up with and, you know, the opening riff
685
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,115
of Wish You Were Here.
686
00:48:58,428 --> 00:48:59,466
And again, Like ...
687
00:48:59,466 --> 00:49:02,499
Like the four Notes at the Beginning of Shine On You Crazy Diamond,
688
00:49:02,499 --> 00:49:04,774
Other People start going, "Hey,
689
00:49:04,774 --> 00:49:06,689
"That's Good, you've got something there."
690
00:49:12,676 --> 00:49:16,308
And I said to HIM, "What's That You're Playing? That's really nice."
691
00:49:16,308 --> 00:49:17,985
And He Played IT.
692
00:49:17,985 --> 00:49:20,778
And I said, "That's really Good.
693
00:49:21,935 --> 00:49:24,131
"Maybe I Should try and do something with IT."
695
00:49:29,678 --> 00:49:34,349
Those Chords and Putting in to the ... in to the Whole thing, and Roger ...
696
00:49:36,943 --> 00:49:39,696
did .. Those Brilliant Words, and there We Were.
697
00:49:39,696 --> 00:49:44,286
# Did They Get you to Trade your heroes for ghosts
698
00:49:45,803 --> 00:49:47,958
# Hot ashes for trees
699
00:49:49,754 --> 00:49:52,069
# Hot Air for a cool Breeze
700
00:49:53,067 --> 00:49:54,983
# Cold comfort for Change
701
00:49:56,260 --> 00:49:58,934
# And did you exchange
702
00:49:58,934 --> 00:50:01,648
# A Walk on part in the war
703
00:50:01,648 --> 00:50:05,160
# For a lead role in a cage? #
704
00:50:13,901 --> 00:50:18,570
That collaboration Between David and I, I think is, you know,
705
00:50:18,570 --> 00:50:22,881
really Good. All bits of IT are really, really Good.
706
00:50:22,881 --> 00:50:24,557
So I ' m very happy about it.
707
00:50:34,614 --> 00:50:38,725
# So, you Think SO CAN tell you
708
00:50:40,801 --> 00:50:43,276
Heaven from hell #
709
00:50:44,832 --> 00:50:47,626
# Blue Skies from Pain
710
00:50:48,624 --> 00:50:50,899
# Can you tell a green Field
711
00:50:52,016 --> 00:50:54,251
# From a Cold, steel rail?
712
00:50:56,007 --> 00:50:59,121
# A smile from a Veil?
713
00:50:59,121 --> 00:51:02,074
# Do you Think you CAN tell? #
714
00:51:02,074 --> 00:51:04,708
I Think Most of the Songs That I've Ever Written
715
00:51:04,708 --> 00:51:08,141
All Pose Similar questions.
716
00:51:08,141 --> 00:51:13,928
Can you Free Yourself Enough to be Able to Experience the Reality
717
00:51:13,928 --> 00:51:17,041
of life as IT Goes on before you
718
00:51:17,041 --> 00:51:21,551
and with you, and as you go on as Part of IT or not?
719
00:51:21,551 --> 00:51:28,456
Because if you can not, you Stand on square one until you die.
720
00:51:28,456 --> 00:51:32,088
And I know That May sound Like Bullshit,
721
00:51:32,088 --> 00:51:34,402
That's What but the Song is About .
722
00:51:36,558 --> 00:51:39,910
# How I wish How I wish you Were here
723
00:51:42,425 --> 00:51:46,376
# We're just two lost Souls Swimming in a fish bowl
724
00:51:46,376 --> 00:51:48,451
Year After Year #
725
00:51:50,566 --> 00:51:54,159
# Running over the Ground Same old
726
00:51:54,159 --> 00:51:55,875
# What We have found?
727
00:51:55,875 --> 00:51:58,509
# The Same old fears
728
00:51:58,509 --> 00:52:01,104
# Wish you Were here. #
729
00:52:02,659 --> 00:52:05,653
All the Songs are Encouraging me,
730
00:52:05,653 --> 00:52:08,128
I guess I write Them for me,
731
00:52:08,128 --> 00:52:11,400
and IT's to Encourage Myself ...
732
00:52:12,598 --> 00:52:17,706
.. not to accept a lead role in a cage ...
733
00:52:19,303 --> 00:52:22,974
.. but to go on demanding of Myself
734
00:52:22,974 --> 00:52:26,807
That I Keep auditioning
735
00:52:26,807 --> 00:52:31,196
for the walk on part in the war, because that's where I want to be.
736
00:52:31,196 --> 00:52:33,910
I Want to be in the trenches.
737
00:52:33,910 --> 00:52:36,864
I do not Want to be at headquarters or I do not Want to be sitting
738
00:52:36,864 --> 00:52:38,979
in a Hotel somewhere.
739
00:52:38,979 --> 00:52:43,490
I Want to be ... I Want to be Engaged ...
740
00:52:44,647 --> 00:52:47,361
.. Probably, I Might Say,
741
00:52:47,361 --> 00:52:50,953
in a way That My father Would Approve of.
742
00:52:58,935 --> 00:53:03,206
It's a very simple Sort of Country Song, if you Like.
743
00:53:03,206 --> 00:53:06,000
It's still ... Because of resonance ITS
744
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:10,271
and the emotional IT Carries Weight,
745
00:53:10,271 --> 00:53:14,022
IT is one of our best songs.
746
00:53:17,614 --> 00:53:21,844
People do attach to IT Internal Lots of feelings That They May have,
747
00:53:21,844 --> 00:53:26,115
and they may not be entirely sure what it's about, and neither am I.
748
00:53:26,115 --> 00:53:28,988
I Mean, I'm Only telling you What's About IT for me.
749
00:53:30,625 --> 00:53:33,578
But there's no reason why Other People should not put
750
00:53:33,578 --> 00:53:38,008
Other Interpretations on IT, Which Could be just as Valid.
751
00:53:42,279 --> 00:53:44,474
Although Shine On You Crazy Diamond
752
00:53:44,474 --> 00:53:47,787
is the one That is specifically About Syd, and Wish You Were Here
754
00:53:51,459 --> 00:53:54,372
.. I can not Sing IT without Thinking About Syd.
755
00:54:07,623 --> 00:54:11,614
My Memory is That I Came in to the Studio
756
00:54:11,614 --> 00:54:15,845
and there was this Guy Standing there in a Gabardine raincoat,
757
00:54:15,845 --> 00:54:20,754
and a large, large bloke, and I HAD no idea Who was IT.
758
00:54:20,754 --> 00:54:24,146
And Surprisingly, no-one's Saying, "Who's That person?
759
00:54:24,146 --> 00:54:27,938
"What's He doing Wandering around All Our gear in the Studio?"
760
00:54:27,938 --> 00:54:32,607
And then ... then Coming in to HIM the control room and standing around,
761
00:54:32,607 --> 00:54:39,113
and How Remarkable, How Long IT was before anyone woke up Actually.
762
00:54:39,113 --> 00:54:45,260
Finally , I think it was David who said, "Nick, do you recognise him?"
763
00:54:46,257 --> 00:54:50,967
And I Looked and I Think I shrugged Either My Shoulders
765
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,954
and said, "It's Syd".
766
00:54:56,954 --> 00:54:58,909
And We just Sort of Stood there,
767
00:54:58,909 --> 00:55:01,942
or SAT Were there and just Shell-shocked, Basically.
768
00:55:03,619 --> 00:55:06,692
And then until Somebody Thought of something to Say to HIM.
769
00:55:09,127 --> 00:55:13,676
And then We Were All unbelievably shocked at HIS appearance.
770
00:55:14,874 --> 00:55:18,027
I Mean, I did not Recognise HIM, I did not know IT was HIM.
771
00:55:18,027 --> 00:55:19,504
But IT was Pretty ...
772
00:55:22,138 --> 00:55:24,214
.. Pretty Affecting, really.
773
00:55:24,214 --> 00:55:25,889
I Mean, Roger and Dave Cried.
774
00:55:27,527 --> 00:55:31,557
You know, this slim, elegant ...
775
00:55:32,795 --> 00:55:37,344
.. if bedraggled and Dazed That person I HAD Last Seen, HAD Turned
776
00:55:37,344 --> 00:55:43,252
rather Balloon shaped, and HAD no eyebrows and not much Hair, and ...
777
00:55:53,668 --> 00:55:56,861
And there is the Photograph of HIM in the Studio at the time,
778
00:55:56,861 --> 00:56:01,770
and if you Looked at Syd in Early '67
779
00:56:01,770 --> 00:56:05,402
and then Syd, SO IT was Different.
780
00:56:08,076 --> 00:56:12,147
It was a Great Loss and, you know ...
781
00:56:14,343 --> 00:56:18,493
.. Imagining What He Would have gone on to do is. ..
782
00:56:18,493 --> 00:56:22,045
That Speculating on, if you Like, is ...
783
00:56:22,045 --> 00:56:24,759
He Could have SO Become Great.
784
00:57:06,506 --> 00:57:11,096
It's kind of nice Actually Standing up here with These Three guys
785
00:57:11,096 --> 00:57:13,851
After All These years.
786
00:57:15,288 --> 00:57:17,921
Standing to be counted with the rest of you.
787
00:57:19,718 --> 00:57:24,068
Anyway, we're doing this for everyone Who's not here,
788
00:57:24,068 --> 00:57:26,263
but particularly, of Course, for Syd.
789
00:57:30,414 --> 00:57:34,445
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