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MALE (VOICEOVER): This program
is about unsolved mysteries.
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Whenever possible, the
actual family members
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and police officials
have participated
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in recreating the events.
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What you are about to see
is not a news broadcast.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Tonight, an intriguing look
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at a little known phenomenon--
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the mysterious link
between adoptees
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and their birth families.
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Many believe that even
after years of separation,
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they are connected
by a remarkable
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psychic tie that
cannot be explained
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by coincidence or science.
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In Rhode Island,
a wild car chase
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ended in the stabbing death
of 20-year-old Jason Bass.
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His attacker, Adam Emery,
was convicted of murder,
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and then released on
bail, pending sentencing.
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Hours later, Emery's car was
found abandoned on the Newport
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Bridge, leading many to
believe that Emory and his wife
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had jumped to their deaths.
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But reliable sources
believe that Adam
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Emery may still be alive.
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When 38-year-old Latricia
White was murdered,
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the police and her
family began to suspect
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her boyfriend, Doug Walker
Hagen, who had mysteriously
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dropped from sight.
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More than a year later,
he is still missing.
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But is Doug the
cold-blooded killer?
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Or was he a victim
of violence himself?
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Join me for these intriguing
new cases and much more.
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Perhaps you may be able
to help solve a mystery.
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[music playing]
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Mom?
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): A
joyous reunion between a mother
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and her long-lost daughter.
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Brothers and sisters
who grew up apart
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meet for the first
time as adults.
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Remarkable moments like
these have been captured
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by our cameras dozens of times.
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Imagine meeting your
child or a sibling--
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in reality, a complete stranger,
after years of wondering
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what he or she is like.
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We have learned
that in many cases,
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reunited family members have
a surprising amount in common,
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more than can be explained by
genetics or simple coincidence.
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We decided to take a closer look
at this mysterious connection,
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this bond that seems to
defy scientific explanation.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Don Larkin grew
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up knowing he had been adopted.
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But he was 44 years old before
he finally located his birth
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mother, Betty Landers.
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Even before Don
met Betty, he knew
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they would have much in common.
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As he approached her
house for the first time,
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Don noticed an unusual
display of knickknacks
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hanging in the window--
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a carved hummingbird, and
next to it, a crystal prism.
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Don had only seen these items
together in one other place,
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his own front window.
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It really startled
me to see somebody
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else having something like that
in the window of their house.
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And I just thought,
well, she must
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be a pretty neat
lady, because she
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picked the same stuff I did.
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Coincidences that are very
rare, such as Betty and Don's
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both having hummingbirds and
crystals in their front windows
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of their houses, are almost
impossible to explain
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by the traditional cause
effect genetic relationship.
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That's a very good
example of one
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that is probably
due to some unknown
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spiritual, psychic connection.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Many believe
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that the same eerie bond exists
between separated siblings.
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Lorelei Smith, who
everyone called Lori,
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was the only daughter
of her adoptive parents.
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Yet, even as a four-year-old,
she sensed that somewhere, she
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had a sister.
- Who's that?
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Me and my sister.
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But you don't have a sister.
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Yes, I do.
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I was so firm about
it, one of the teachers
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felt necessary to
contact my parents.
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I was told at the
time not to continue
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with this illusion or fantasy.
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But I, apparently, still kept
insisting I had a sister.
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At that time in 1959, Lorelei
did, indeed, have a sister,
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Lori, then 1 and 1/2 years old.
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And we were living in Alaska.
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Lorelei was in New Mexico.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
As children, Lori Smith
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and her sister Lori Stiffler
had much more in common
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than just their first names.
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Both owned horses,
and both played
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the same musical instruments--
the flute and the guitar.
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Surprisingly, they
had each learned
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sign language, though neither
one knew a single deaf person.
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I believe that the
most common explanation
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for these coincidences
is probably genetic.
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But there are coincidences
that the genetic attachment,
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the genetic cause,
simply can't explain.
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And then, I think we have
to look to a spiritual,
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a telepathic, a psychokinetic
type of explanation,
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difficult as that may be to do.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Elizabeth Bersanetti's story
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is a case in point.
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She grew up with her adoptive
family in Southern California.
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For as long as she can remember,
Elizabeth was drawn to anything
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and everything French.
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I always had a
fascination with languages.
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And the first one I wanted
to speak was French.
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I was just obsessed
with the language.
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It was so foreign to me.
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And I just wanted
to be different.
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I wanted to be
those people that I
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saw in the films, the
Parisians walking along,
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the students studying
at the Sorbonne.
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I wanted that identity.
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I wanted to be French.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
In 1985, Elizabeth
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formally requested a reunion
with her birth mother
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through the agency that
had handled her adoption.
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However, both Elizabeth's birth
mother and adoptive mother
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were required to
give their consent.
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Afraid to hurt her
adoptive mother's feelings,
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Elizabeth postponed the search.
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Five years passed.
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In January of 1990 Elizabeth,
married a young man
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she met while
traveling in Italy.
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Elizabeth says that one month
later, she began to have
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a series of recurring dreams.
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A shadowy woman always appeared.
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And Elizabeth soon
came to believe
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the woman was her birth mother.
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My mother was being told
that she didn't have very
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long to live, that
she had cancer,
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and that it was going to
progress at a very rapid rate.
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There was a lot of sadness
I felt from the dream.
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She was obviously
very gravely ill.
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And to me, that said
that she was dying.
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When Elizabeth woke up, she
was really upset about it.
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And, of course, I said,
you know, it's impossible.
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You're just
over-worried about it.
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You're too worried.
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And it's not going
to be anything.
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But then she had the same dream
again in the following days.
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And she actually once
woke up crying about it.
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In late August, I woke
up with almost the fact
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that my mother was dead.
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I was never going to meet her.
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It was over.
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I was never going to see her.
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I was too late.
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It was on me that whole day
and all the days after that
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that I had missed her.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Soon
after that disturbing dream,
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Elizabeth returned to
the adoption agency.
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This time, she had
her adoptive mother's
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signed consent in hand.
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I guess all the
waivers are in.
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All the waivers are in?
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You mean you have my
birth mother's as well?
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Oh yes, since May of '85.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Elizabeth
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was stunned by the timing.
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Her birth mother had
asked for a reunion
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just days after Elizabeth's
own initial request.
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Nichole Roland, and
she's French-Canadian.
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[phone ringing]
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WOMAN: Hello?
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Bonjour, I'm looking
for Nicole Roland, please.
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WOMAN: Who is this?
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I'm an old friend of
hers from Los Angeles.
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WOMAN: I'm afraid I
have bad news for you.
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Nicole has passed away.
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When?
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WOMAN: Last August.
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It was devastating.
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And I said, did she
die on August 28?
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And she said, yes.
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And she just broke
into tears, and said,
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how would you know that?
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All I could think of
was that my dreams
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were true, that I had had this
strange connection to her.
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I had known when she was sick.
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And I'd known when she died.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Incredibly, Nicole
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Roland had lived
the life Elizabeth
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once dreamed of for herself.
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Nicole had been a
professor of French,
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spending two years
among the Parisians
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studying at the Sorbonne.
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It seems that me and my birth
mother had a lot in common,
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and would have had a
lot in common had we
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been able to know each other.
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It appears that we were living,
at times, a parallel life,
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doing the same things,
being in the same places,
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and interested in
the same subjects.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Although Elizabeth
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was never able to
meet Nicole, she did
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discover a whole new family.
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Elizabeth flew to Canada
to meet her half sister
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Sophie, and a houseful of
Nicole's friends and relatives.
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During the visit,
Elizabeth continued
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to find unexplainable
links to her birth mother.
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Hi.
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Could I draw with you?
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Sure.
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OK, what should I draw?
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I don't know, maybe a house.
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OK, let's make it turquoise.
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I went to all the crayons.
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And I selected a turquoise
crayon, which was sort of odd,
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I thought.
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But I just-- it was
an unconscious thing.
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And I started
drawing this house.
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And I'd never drawn a
house like this in my life.
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The door was on the wrong side.
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The garage was on the
wrong side of the door.
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And it had little weird
dormers, and turquoise trim.
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And I just remarked,
even while I was drawing,
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this is a strange house.
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And, well, it's a house.
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Here it is.
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John, look at this.
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The room got very quiet.
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Everybody seemed to
be staring at me.
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And I felt very uncomfortable.
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Elizabeth, why did
you draw this house?
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- I don't know.
- Really?
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You don't know?
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No.
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How is it?
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Nice.
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The day after I
did the drawing,
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my sister took me to
the house that she
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had lived in with my mother.
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And it was the house that I
had drawn the previous night--
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the same little odd house
with the peaked roof,
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and the turquoise trim, and
the garage on the wrong side.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Elizabeth
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says that just before
leaving Canada,
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one final extraordinary
incident reaffirmed
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the almost magical connection
with her birth mother.
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She would be so proud.
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Thank you.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): A friend
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of Nicole's gave
Elizabeth one of Nicole's
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most treasured
books, a collection
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of poems by a German writer.
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As it happened,
the author was also
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one of Elizabeth's favorites.
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In fact, she had brought the
same book with her to Canada.
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Thank you so much.
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I would like to believe
that she was consciously
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communicating with me.
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But I don't really have
any way of knowing.
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I can-- whatever it is, I
think that it's powerful,
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and that it's,
certainly, alternately
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wonderful and
frightening sometimes.
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When we begin to look at the
connections that seem to occur
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across both time
and space, we run
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into the inability of our
current knowledge system
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to explain things like this.
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But they happen so
frequently that there must
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be some reality behind them.
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Maybe I am looking
for a connection
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to her that's deeper and more
rooted than it might have been.
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But I tend to think that
what I feel is very true.
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She couldn't give me the
legacy of knowing her,
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or of having shared
things with me.
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So she shared things
with me in another way.
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[music playing]
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Next,
the bizarre saga of Adam Emery,
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Did the convicted
murderer commit
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suicide by jumping from Rhode
Island's Newport bridge?
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Or did he cleverly
stage his own death?
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[music playing]
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The Newport Bridge
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arcs some two miles across
the Narragansett Bay
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in Rhode Island.
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At its highest point,
the road bed stands
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219 feet above the water.
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On the evening of
November 10th, 1993,
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the bridge was a scene
of a sobering discovery--
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the latest twist in
one of the state's
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most sensational murder cases.
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Shortly before 7:00 PM, a bridge
supervisor and a state trooper
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investigated an empty
car that was blocking
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one of the westbound lanes.
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The engine was running.
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And the headlights were on.
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Empty car, nobody
in it, nobody around.
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Check the sides.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): On the
backseat were several articles
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of clothing neatly folded.
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Up front, cash, cut up credit
cards, and a driver's license.
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When we first got
up there, I thought
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it was an abandoned car.
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He checked the car.
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And he says, oh no.
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And that's when we knew.
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He says, it's the Emery's car.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Most anyone in Rhode Island
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would have recognized
the name Emery.
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That very day, Adam Emery
had been convicted of murder.
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Though he was free on bail,
Emery faced 20 years to life
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in the state penitentiary.
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Now, it appeared that
Adam and his wife Elena
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had found a way out of
their impending separation--
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by jumping to their deaths
off the Newport Bridge.
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The apparent double suicide
about Adam and Elena Emery
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was stunning news.
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But it would not
be the last chapter
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in this extraordinary case--
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far from it.
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Soon, authorities would begin to
suspect that the Emery's were,
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in fact, alive,
the abandoned car
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just the final flourish in a
well-planned dash for freedom.
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Even as we med our story,
dramatic new evidence
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continued to surface.
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This most unusual of
cases was set in motion
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by a single chance event.
- Great, thanks, you too.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
On August 31st, 1990,
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Adam Emery, his wife
Elena, and another couple,
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stopped for dinner at a
seafood stand in their hometown
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of Warwick, Rhode Island.
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It was just before 9:00 PM.
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I was hungry.
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Hey, that guy!
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He's taking off!
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The
car sped away and disappeared
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around a corner.
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You've got to
chase after that guy!
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Adam Emery turned on his car.
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And he headed out.
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And he looked off
into the distance.
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And he saw a car way
off in the distance.
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And his wife yelled
out, that's the car.
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Let's chase them.
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Get the license plates!
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Get me a pen!
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Did you get it?
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): The car
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fixed in Emery's headlights was
driven by a 20-year-old named
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Jason Bass.
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His cousin and a
friend were with him.
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[honking]
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Cut him off, honey!
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Hey, you could have killed us!
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You're going to pay for this!
- Just go!
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Go!
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This guy's crazy!
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Pull over!
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Cut him off!
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00:18:01,914 --> 00:18:05,285
Take my knife.
356
00:18:05,385 --> 00:18:07,887
What are you doing, man!
357
00:18:07,987 --> 00:18:09,189
Wondering who this person is.
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He got out of his car,
yelling and screaming.
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I'm going to kick your butt.
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I'm going to kill you,
major fighting words.
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Unbelievably-- this
guy was so mad.
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I mean, I've never seen
anybody madder than this.
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I told you to pull over!
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I told you to-- hey!
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Stop the car!
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
While clinging to the car,
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Adam began to slash
at Jason with a knife.
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00:18:51,864 --> 00:18:52,665
Help!
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Police!
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Josh!
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Neighbors rushed out to help.
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They would soon be joined
by an off duty detective
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who lived just down the street.
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When I arrived, the
whole air about the scene
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was very spooky.
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It had a haze.
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And it was a warm summer night.
378
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And it just had a
spooky, eerie feeling
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about what I was going into.
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And I pulled up
thinking that it was
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just a motor vehicle accident.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): It
was far more than an accident.
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Jason Bass, stabbed once through
the heart, died at the scene.
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I don't understand
why my son got murdered
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when he was so good of a child.
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We'd help anybody.
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He just went and
picked up a friend
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from work to take him home.
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And he ended up dead.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): The tragedy
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of Jason's death was compounded
by the facts that soon emerged.
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He had never so much as
touched Adam Emery's car.
393
00:20:06,806 --> 00:20:11,711
The Ford LTD that was
being driven by Jason Bass
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was not the vehicle
that hit Adam
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00:20:14,947 --> 00:20:18,585
Emery's car at the clam stand.
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00:20:18,685 --> 00:20:22,154
They took paint chips
off of Adam's car.
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00:20:22,255 --> 00:20:24,457
And they tested
those paint chips
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with the paint of
Jason Bass's car,
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00:20:28,995 --> 00:20:32,198
and proved conclusively
that it was
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a different vehicle that struck
Adam Emery's car that evening.
401
00:20:38,871 --> 00:20:40,640
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Those who knew Adam Emery were
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00:20:40,740 --> 00:20:42,909
stunned by the turn of events.
403
00:20:43,009 --> 00:20:45,011
He had never been in
trouble with the law.
404
00:20:45,111 --> 00:20:48,615
Indeed, Emery had once been a
military policeman in the Rhode
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00:20:48,715 --> 00:20:50,717
Island National Guard.
406
00:20:50,817 --> 00:20:53,853
Now, Adam Emery stood accused
of murder in the second degree.
407
00:20:56,789 --> 00:21:01,060
His trial began on
November 5th 1993.
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00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:05,231
Any idea what you have
done to that family?
409
00:21:05,332 --> 00:21:09,302
I had to defend myself.
410
00:21:09,402 --> 00:21:13,906
And this person was trying to
take control of the situation.
411
00:21:14,006 --> 00:21:17,076
And I had to take some action.
412
00:21:17,176 --> 00:21:19,746
I had to do something.
413
00:21:19,846 --> 00:21:25,485
Adam Emery's testimony
was very rigid.
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00:21:25,585 --> 00:21:28,588
It seemed rehearsed.
415
00:21:28,688 --> 00:21:31,758
And I think the jurors
picked up on that.
416
00:21:31,858 --> 00:21:36,496
He never expressed any
remorse for killing someone.
417
00:21:36,596 --> 00:21:41,401
He said that he stabbed
Jason Bass in self-defense.
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00:21:41,501 --> 00:21:43,436
He had no choice.
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00:21:43,536 --> 00:21:45,938
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The
trial ended on November 10th,
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Adam Emery's 31st birthday.
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Members of the jury find the
defendant Adam Emery guilty
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00:21:52,044 --> 00:21:55,615
of murder in the second degree.
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Right after he was convicted,
Elena Emery kind of muttered
424
00:21:59,352 --> 00:22:04,457
to herself, it's my fault.
And then she got very tense,
425
00:22:04,557 --> 00:22:07,660
and sort of clenched
her jaw, and said,
426
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,462
I'm going to kill someone.
427
00:22:09,562 --> 00:22:11,664
I'm going to kill someone.
428
00:22:11,764 --> 00:22:18,571
The courtroom exploded
into a time bomb of emotion.
429
00:22:18,671 --> 00:22:21,874
You had the Bass family there,
who the person who murdered
430
00:22:21,974 --> 00:22:23,643
their son was convicted.
431
00:22:23,743 --> 00:22:26,746
You had a very close
family on Adam's side
432
00:22:26,846 --> 00:22:30,216
and on Elena's side,
who now their son is
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00:22:30,316 --> 00:22:32,919
going to jail for 20 to life.
434
00:22:33,019 --> 00:22:36,889
And there was crying,
and emotion, and anger.
435
00:22:36,989 --> 00:22:40,760
And there was a
great mix of emotion
436
00:22:40,860 --> 00:22:41,994
in that courtroom on that day.
437
00:22:44,431 --> 00:22:45,598
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Just moments
438
00:22:45,698 --> 00:22:48,635
after the verdict, a news
crew caught this scene
439
00:22:48,735 --> 00:22:49,836
inside the courtroom.
440
00:22:52,905 --> 00:22:56,843
Elena was pretty emotional,
I guess because of the verdict.
441
00:22:56,943 --> 00:23:01,548
Adam-- Adam didn't have
any emotions at all.
442
00:23:01,648 --> 00:23:05,217
It was like he didn't
care one way or the other.
443
00:23:08,721 --> 00:23:11,958
In my mind, I think
that Adam knew he wasn't
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00:23:12,058 --> 00:23:13,426
going to serve any time at all.
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00:23:16,195 --> 00:23:18,130
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
By nightfall, Adam and Elena
446
00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:22,168
would be dead, or so it
seemed, until police began
447
00:23:22,268 --> 00:23:24,203
to reconstruct the
events leading up
448
00:23:24,303 --> 00:23:27,874
to the apparent double suicide.
449
00:23:27,974 --> 00:23:30,843
Adam Emery was allowed
to remain free on bail
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00:23:30,943 --> 00:23:34,413
pending formal sentencing
one month later.
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00:23:34,514 --> 00:23:37,116
He and Elena left the
courthouse at about 3:00 PM.
452
00:23:39,886 --> 00:23:45,157
3:35-- the Emery's showed up in
a local sporting goods store.
453
00:23:45,257 --> 00:23:48,761
Hi, excuse me, do you
have any more ab weights?
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00:23:48,861 --> 00:23:50,697
Sure.
455
00:23:50,797 --> 00:23:52,765
Elena was far from nervous.
456
00:23:52,865 --> 00:23:54,233
She smiled.
457
00:23:54,333 --> 00:23:56,736
She was talkative.
458
00:23:56,836 --> 00:23:58,738
It didn't seem like there
was anything on her mind,
459
00:23:58,838 --> 00:24:00,740
or she had anything planned.
460
00:24:03,142 --> 00:24:04,511
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The Emery's bought
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00:24:04,611 --> 00:24:07,647
sweatsuits, athletic socks,
and 80 pounds of strap
462
00:24:07,747 --> 00:24:09,749
on exercise weights.
463
00:24:09,849 --> 00:24:12,752
But, curiously, the salesman
reported that Adam was
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00:24:12,852 --> 00:24:15,321
disturbed by the total bill.
465
00:24:15,421 --> 00:24:19,425
To police, saving money seemed
an unlikely concern for someone
466
00:24:19,526 --> 00:24:20,960
about to take his own life.
467
00:24:24,564 --> 00:24:27,534
At 4:45 PM, Adam
and Elena pulled up
468
00:24:27,634 --> 00:24:29,602
at the Newport bridge.
469
00:24:29,702 --> 00:24:31,771
The previous hour, they
had been observed calmly
470
00:24:31,871 --> 00:24:33,906
dining at a fast
food restaurant,
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00:24:34,006 --> 00:24:36,375
which also seemed out of
character for a couple bent
472
00:24:36,475 --> 00:24:37,276
on suicide.
473
00:24:41,213 --> 00:24:44,817
4:50 PM, the Emery's were
seen outside their car
474
00:24:44,917 --> 00:24:47,453
on the walkway of the bridge.
475
00:24:47,554 --> 00:24:50,857
By 5:15, Adam and
Elena had driven away.
476
00:24:56,062 --> 00:24:58,998
Apparently, the Emery's
returned to the bridge.
477
00:24:59,098 --> 00:25:02,669
Their car was reported
as abandoned at 6:53 PM.
478
00:25:05,672 --> 00:25:08,207
The search for the bodies
of Adam and Elena Emery
479
00:25:08,307 --> 00:25:11,811
was one of the most extensive
in the history of Rhode Island.
480
00:25:11,911 --> 00:25:15,381
SONAR-equipped boats probed
the bottom of the bay.
481
00:25:15,481 --> 00:25:17,750
Teams of divers searched
the bridge footings,
482
00:25:17,850 --> 00:25:21,420
and trained dogs scoured
miles of shoreline.
483
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,023
In the end, not a
single scrap of evidence
484
00:25:24,123 --> 00:25:26,458
was recovered from the bay.
485
00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:29,361
The investigation
stalled until detective
486
00:25:29,461 --> 00:25:31,598
Hopkins remembered
the courtroom footage,
487
00:25:31,698 --> 00:25:35,201
and had an inspiration.
488
00:25:35,301 --> 00:25:37,904
I obtained that tape.
489
00:25:38,004 --> 00:25:43,743
And I took it to a person
who was hearing impaired.
490
00:25:43,843 --> 00:25:46,112
One of her means
of communication
491
00:25:46,212 --> 00:25:49,415
is to read people's lips.
492
00:25:49,515 --> 00:25:51,618
And I asked her if
she could interpret
493
00:25:51,718 --> 00:25:54,353
the conversation
that was being held
494
00:25:54,453 --> 00:25:55,755
between Adam and Elena Emery.
495
00:26:00,226 --> 00:26:03,195
Said, you promised me.
496
00:26:03,295 --> 00:26:05,364
Said you promised me?
497
00:26:05,464 --> 00:26:06,833
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Hours of reviewing
498
00:26:06,933 --> 00:26:11,771
and replaying the tape finally
yielded Elena's furtive words.
499
00:26:11,871 --> 00:26:14,273
We're going to do
what we originally said.
500
00:26:14,373 --> 00:26:17,209
You promised me.
501
00:26:17,309 --> 00:26:18,377
You're positive?
502
00:26:18,477 --> 00:26:20,379
We're going to do what
you originally said,
503
00:26:20,479 --> 00:26:22,481
you promised me?
504
00:26:22,581 --> 00:26:23,716
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): In the end,
505
00:26:23,816 --> 00:26:25,918
the cryptic exchange
left investigators
506
00:26:26,018 --> 00:26:27,353
about where they started.
507
00:26:27,453 --> 00:26:30,256
Clearly, the Emery's
had made a plan.
508
00:26:30,356 --> 00:26:34,026
But was it a desperate
suicide pact or a bold scheme
509
00:26:34,126 --> 00:26:35,995
to run from the law?
510
00:26:36,095 --> 00:26:37,864
We should have
done this before.
511
00:26:41,734 --> 00:26:42,869
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Nine months
512
00:26:42,969 --> 00:26:45,805
after the Emery's disappeared,
a fisherman working
513
00:26:45,905 --> 00:26:48,274
the Narragansett Bay
found two human leg
514
00:26:48,374 --> 00:26:51,711
bones snagged in his net.
515
00:26:51,811 --> 00:26:55,414
Clinging to one was a fragment
of sock, identical to those
516
00:26:55,514 --> 00:26:56,949
purchased by Adam and Elena.
517
00:27:00,052 --> 00:27:03,890
I took the blue
gold and blue bands
518
00:27:03,990 --> 00:27:06,759
to a marine biologist
in an attempt
519
00:27:06,859 --> 00:27:08,828
to get a timeframe
as to how long
520
00:27:08,928 --> 00:27:10,863
the bones were in the water.
521
00:27:10,963 --> 00:27:14,133
There was the determination
of the marine biologist
522
00:27:14,233 --> 00:27:18,037
that there was no
micro organisms growing
523
00:27:18,137 --> 00:27:21,674
within the webbing of the
material, which told me
524
00:27:21,774 --> 00:27:24,877
as the investigator that
the bones with this material
525
00:27:24,977 --> 00:27:28,514
wrapped around them were not
under the water for the period
526
00:27:28,614 --> 00:27:30,850
of nine months, and
that because of that,
527
00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:34,620
they could not be
Adam and Elena Emery.
528
00:27:34,721 --> 00:27:35,888
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): In addition,
529
00:27:35,988 --> 00:27:38,891
a forensic anthropologist
judged with 85%
530
00:27:38,991 --> 00:27:40,760
certainty that the
bone most likely
531
00:27:40,860 --> 00:27:43,029
was from a white male,
no more than five
532
00:27:43,129 --> 00:27:45,664
feet seven inches tall.
533
00:27:45,765 --> 00:27:47,499
Adam Emery was 6'1 1".
534
00:27:50,302 --> 00:27:52,271
When "Unsolved Mysteries"
arrived in Rhode Island
535
00:27:52,371 --> 00:27:55,307
to film this story
in August of 1994,
536
00:27:55,407 --> 00:27:57,343
there was considerable
evidence suggesting Adam
537
00:27:57,443 --> 00:27:59,645
and Elena Emery had fled.
538
00:27:59,746 --> 00:28:02,114
However, their families firmly
believed the young couple
539
00:28:02,214 --> 00:28:04,150
had jumped to their deaths.
540
00:28:04,250 --> 00:28:07,720
By the time we finished filming,
the case had once again taken
541
00:28:07,820 --> 00:28:09,421
a totally surprising turn.
542
00:28:12,892 --> 00:28:14,193
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
On August 30th,
543
00:28:14,293 --> 00:28:17,930
Detective Hopkins responded to
an urgent call from the harbor.
544
00:28:18,030 --> 00:28:23,069
Narragansett Bay had yielded up
another grim piece of evidence.
545
00:28:23,169 --> 00:28:26,038
I'm here to announce
today that the skull that
546
00:28:26,138 --> 00:28:31,010
was recovered August 30th,
1994 from the east passage
547
00:28:31,110 --> 00:28:34,881
of Narragansett Bay has
been positively identified
548
00:28:34,981 --> 00:28:36,983
as that of Elena Emery.
549
00:28:40,019 --> 00:28:42,554
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Elena
Emery had at last been found.
550
00:28:42,654 --> 00:28:45,758
But to date, there has
been no trace of Adam.
551
00:28:45,858 --> 00:28:49,361
Perhaps, his bones are
deep in Narragansett bay.
552
00:28:49,461 --> 00:28:53,599
Or, perhaps, the day will come
when Adam Emery turns up alive.
553
00:28:53,699 --> 00:28:58,337
If so, he would almost certainly
face one final question--
554
00:28:58,437 --> 00:29:00,472
how did it come to
pass that Elena,
555
00:29:00,572 --> 00:29:04,043
alone, jumped to her death?
556
00:29:04,143 --> 00:29:06,645
Officially, the
case remains open.
557
00:29:06,745 --> 00:29:09,916
Reliable sources say there
is reason to believe Adam
558
00:29:10,016 --> 00:29:13,452
Emery never committed suicide.
559
00:29:13,552 --> 00:29:17,790
Emery is 6 feet 1 inch
tall, and weighs 195 pounds.
560
00:29:17,890 --> 00:29:19,558
He has black hair and blue eyes.
561
00:29:24,163 --> 00:29:26,833
Next, the search for
a Texas man accused
562
00:29:26,933 --> 00:29:30,102
of murdering his girlfriend.
563
00:29:30,202 --> 00:29:32,504
[music playing]
564
00:29:39,111 --> 00:29:40,412
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Lockhart, Texas,
565
00:29:40,512 --> 00:29:44,450
Monday, December 27, 1993--
566
00:29:44,550 --> 00:29:46,118
Jack White arrived
at his daughter's
567
00:29:46,218 --> 00:29:48,620
house filled with apprehension.
568
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,023
Patricia White, a
38-year-old nurse,
569
00:29:51,123 --> 00:29:56,228
had not been seen or heard
from in nearly 24 hours.
570
00:29:56,328 --> 00:29:58,164
Trish?
571
00:29:58,264 --> 00:30:00,566
Trish?
572
00:30:00,666 --> 00:30:03,903
Everyone was concerned about
Latricia, because she just
573
00:30:04,003 --> 00:30:06,372
hadn't gone to work Monday.
574
00:30:06,472 --> 00:30:13,212
And she never, never fails to
go to work, or at least call.
575
00:30:13,312 --> 00:30:14,113
Trish?
576
00:30:17,283 --> 00:30:18,084
Trisha?
577
00:30:27,126 --> 00:30:30,396
It was kind of dark in the room.
578
00:30:30,496 --> 00:30:31,998
And I just called her.
579
00:30:32,098 --> 00:30:33,765
Then I went over and felt her.
580
00:30:37,269 --> 00:30:39,105
I knew that she was dead.
581
00:30:42,074 --> 00:30:43,375
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Latricia White
582
00:30:43,475 --> 00:30:47,613
had been shot six times in the
head with a .22 caliber weapon.
583
00:30:47,713 --> 00:30:50,482
Her death stunned her friends
and neighbors in Lockhart.
584
00:30:50,582 --> 00:30:55,121
Latricia was known as a
dedicated and caring nurse.
585
00:30:55,221 --> 00:30:56,956
In addition to the
grieving community,
586
00:30:57,056 --> 00:31:00,026
Latricia left behind
two children, and a host
587
00:31:00,126 --> 00:31:01,393
of unanswered questions.
588
00:31:05,164 --> 00:31:08,234
From the onset,
investigators were puzzled.
589
00:31:08,334 --> 00:31:10,436
Despite the violent
nature of the crime,
590
00:31:10,536 --> 00:31:12,138
there were no signs
of a struggle,
591
00:31:12,238 --> 00:31:14,373
and nothing in the house
had been disturbed.
592
00:31:17,609 --> 00:31:20,046
Just as puzzling was a
mysterious disappearance
593
00:31:20,146 --> 00:31:22,949
of Latricia's live-in
boyfriend, a local trucker
594
00:31:23,049 --> 00:31:27,219
Lee Walker Hoggin
Jr., nicknamed Dub.
595
00:31:27,319 --> 00:31:29,421
Also missing was
Dub's 9-year-old son
596
00:31:29,521 --> 00:31:33,659
Chance, who had been visiting
for the Christmas holidays.
597
00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:37,129
The fact that her
boyfriend Dub, Walker Hagen,
598
00:31:37,229 --> 00:31:40,933
could not be found, led us
to several different areas
599
00:31:41,033 --> 00:31:41,833
to investigate.
600
00:31:41,934 --> 00:31:45,737
Number one, is he a suspect?
601
00:31:45,837 --> 00:31:48,107
Could he have
committed this crime?
602
00:31:48,207 --> 00:31:51,177
The other one is,
or is he a victim?
603
00:31:51,277 --> 00:31:55,147
Has he also been injured?
604
00:31:55,247 --> 00:31:58,350
Three days later, an
unexpected discovery--
605
00:31:58,450 --> 00:32:01,753
Dub's pickup truck was found
abandoned in Austin, Texas,
606
00:32:01,853 --> 00:32:05,457
approximately 30 miles
from the crime scene.
607
00:32:05,557 --> 00:32:09,295
For it to be there
and be locked up,
608
00:32:09,395 --> 00:32:11,363
it is well-known in
the law enforcement
609
00:32:11,463 --> 00:32:14,800
community in the Austin area
that this is a high crime area.
610
00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:17,436
And for that vehicle to be
found there really surprised me.
611
00:32:19,871 --> 00:32:21,007
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): In the cab,
612
00:32:21,107 --> 00:32:22,741
investigators
found Dub's hunting
613
00:32:22,841 --> 00:32:28,347
rifle, which had not been fired,
his checkbook, and his wallet.
614
00:32:28,447 --> 00:32:32,384
In back, a tool box, spare
tire, and Christmas gifts,
615
00:32:32,484 --> 00:32:37,990
some unopened, but all
streaked with blood.
616
00:32:38,090 --> 00:32:39,625
Initially in
the investigation,
617
00:32:39,725 --> 00:32:42,328
we felt that this blood could
have come from our victim.
618
00:32:42,428 --> 00:32:44,596
That was later ruled out.
619
00:32:44,696 --> 00:32:47,133
The blood type was not
the same as our victim.
620
00:32:47,233 --> 00:32:50,902
So we feel like that
someone else was injured--
621
00:32:51,003 --> 00:32:55,174
not seriously, but
someone else was injured.
622
00:32:55,274 --> 00:32:56,808
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Could that someone else
623
00:32:56,908 --> 00:32:59,011
have been Dub or Chance?
624
00:32:59,111 --> 00:33:01,680
The question could
not be answered.
625
00:33:01,780 --> 00:33:03,782
All of the blood tests
were inconclusive.
626
00:33:06,752 --> 00:33:08,220
What happened to
Dub Walker Hagen
627
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,822
and his 9-year-old son Chance?
628
00:33:10,922 --> 00:33:12,624
It is a mystery that
has torn two families
629
00:33:12,724 --> 00:33:15,227
in a small Texas town apart.
630
00:33:15,327 --> 00:33:17,863
Dub and Latricia White
had grown up together.
631
00:33:17,963 --> 00:33:19,931
Yet, today the police
and Latricia's family
632
00:33:20,032 --> 00:33:23,469
believe that Dub murdered
Latricia in a jealous rage.
633
00:33:23,569 --> 00:33:25,337
On the other hand,
Dub's family and friends
634
00:33:25,437 --> 00:33:26,805
are convinced that
Dub and Chance
635
00:33:26,905 --> 00:33:31,610
are also victims, that they
met with foul play themselves.
636
00:33:31,710 --> 00:33:35,347
It's been going
on 11 months now.
637
00:33:35,447 --> 00:33:38,217
And we haven't heard
anything from him at all.
638
00:33:38,317 --> 00:33:40,819
And that tells me, if we
haven't heard from him,
639
00:33:40,919 --> 00:33:43,655
then he's got to be dead.
640
00:33:43,755 --> 00:33:44,990
He's not dead.
641
00:33:45,091 --> 00:33:48,694
I mean, if someone had come
in and killed three of them,
642
00:33:48,794 --> 00:33:56,668
why take a 270 pound body out,
and leave a much lighter one?
643
00:33:56,768 --> 00:33:58,904
I mean, it just
doesn't make any sense.
644
00:33:59,004 --> 00:34:00,872
I don't know who did it.
645
00:34:00,972 --> 00:34:03,875
I just know that he-- that
he couldn't have-- couldn't
646
00:34:03,975 --> 00:34:06,745
have done it, and
then just disappeared
647
00:34:06,845 --> 00:34:07,846
off the face of the Earth.
648
00:34:10,048 --> 00:34:11,283
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
To the police,
649
00:34:11,383 --> 00:34:14,153
however, Dub was
the obvious suspect,
650
00:34:14,253 --> 00:34:15,821
especially after
they began to take
651
00:34:15,921 --> 00:34:18,790
a close look at his
relationship with Latricia.
652
00:34:18,890 --> 00:34:20,192
Hi, guys.
653
00:34:20,292 --> 00:34:22,528
Hi, Trish.
654
00:34:22,628 --> 00:34:24,496
Where were you last night?
655
00:34:24,596 --> 00:34:26,232
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
At the time of the murder,
656
00:34:26,332 --> 00:34:30,102
Dub and Latricia had been
living together for six months.
657
00:34:30,202 --> 00:34:32,938
According to Latricia's
family, Dub was extremely
658
00:34:33,038 --> 00:34:34,806
jealous and suspicious.
659
00:34:34,906 --> 00:34:37,309
It was more like 45 minutes.
660
00:34:37,409 --> 00:34:39,745
I wish that in the future,
if you're going to be late,
661
00:34:39,845 --> 00:34:41,680
would you please give me
a call and let me know,
662
00:34:41,780 --> 00:34:45,417
or try to be home on time?
663
00:34:45,517 --> 00:34:46,685
Trish and him always fought.
664
00:34:46,785 --> 00:34:48,920
They could fight about
a fly on the wall.
665
00:34:49,020 --> 00:34:50,289
It didn't mean anything.
666
00:34:50,389 --> 00:34:52,524
I don't know if they just liked
to fight, and then make up,
667
00:34:52,624 --> 00:34:53,592
or whatever.
668
00:34:53,692 --> 00:34:57,329
But a fight doesn't
mean anything to me,
669
00:34:57,429 --> 00:34:59,097
I mean as far as them
arguing, because I
670
00:34:59,198 --> 00:35:01,933
know he's not violent, as
far as you know like hitting
671
00:35:02,033 --> 00:35:03,869
and stuff like that.
672
00:35:03,969 --> 00:35:05,337
I lived with him.
673
00:35:05,437 --> 00:35:07,506
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Dub's ex-wife, Chance's mother,
674
00:35:07,606 --> 00:35:09,074
disagrees.
675
00:35:09,175 --> 00:35:11,710
And I saw that he was a
good man when I met him.
676
00:35:11,810 --> 00:35:14,780
And when I left him, I was
scared to death of him.
677
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,915
He had a temper.
678
00:35:17,015 --> 00:35:19,385
He treated my
oldest boy terribly.
679
00:35:19,485 --> 00:35:20,286
And I was scared.
680
00:35:26,892 --> 00:35:28,527
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Two days before Christmas,
681
00:35:28,627 --> 00:35:30,796
three days before
the murder, a friend
682
00:35:30,896 --> 00:35:32,498
witnessed one of
Dub and Latricia's
683
00:35:32,598 --> 00:35:34,833
more heated arguments.
684
00:35:34,933 --> 00:35:36,768
He's only nine years old.
What do you expect?
685
00:35:36,868 --> 00:35:38,237
I expect him to be able to--
686
00:35:38,337 --> 00:35:40,239
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Dub's son Chance was apparently
687
00:35:40,339 --> 00:35:41,907
the focus of the conflict.
688
00:35:42,007 --> 00:35:44,176
I don't know why you're making
such a damn big deal out of it
689
00:35:44,276 --> 00:35:45,677
anyway.
690
00:35:45,777 --> 00:35:47,213
Excuse me, Chance.
691
00:35:47,313 --> 00:35:49,281
It's not your fault.
Your father raised
692
00:35:49,381 --> 00:35:50,682
you to be a spoiled brat.
693
00:35:50,782 --> 00:35:52,351
Brat!
He's my son.
694
00:35:52,451 --> 00:35:53,252
He's not yours.
695
00:35:53,352 --> 00:35:54,520
And you have no right!
696
00:35:54,620 --> 00:35:55,587
You understand me?
697
00:35:55,687 --> 00:35:57,423
Well, it's my house!
698
00:35:57,523 --> 00:35:58,524
Fine, we're out of here.
699
00:35:58,624 --> 00:35:59,925
Chance, get your stuff.
700
00:36:00,025 --> 00:36:02,594
Let's go.
701
00:36:02,694 --> 00:36:04,263
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
According to the friend,
702
00:36:04,363 --> 00:36:06,598
Dub packed his bags and
threatened to leave.
703
00:36:06,698 --> 00:36:07,699
I'm tired of your threats.
704
00:36:07,799 --> 00:36:09,735
You don't have
the guts to leave!
705
00:36:12,704 --> 00:36:14,340
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
However, just three nights
706
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,876
later, Dub, Chance, and Latricia
were seen enjoying themselves
707
00:36:17,976 --> 00:36:20,011
at a local restaurant.
708
00:36:20,111 --> 00:36:22,281
The incident was
apparently forgotten.
709
00:36:26,518 --> 00:36:28,520
But late the next
day, Latricia's father
710
00:36:28,620 --> 00:36:31,590
found her shot to
death in her bedroom.
711
00:36:31,690 --> 00:36:33,625
Dub and Chance had disappeared.
712
00:36:36,862 --> 00:36:39,064
Three days later, Dub
was formally charged
713
00:36:39,164 --> 00:36:41,233
with first degree murder.
714
00:36:41,333 --> 00:36:43,435
However, his family believes
that the authorities
715
00:36:43,535 --> 00:36:46,572
have made a terrible mistake.
716
00:36:46,672 --> 00:36:48,274
He wasn't that kind of man.
717
00:36:48,374 --> 00:36:49,174
He just wasn't.
718
00:36:49,275 --> 00:36:51,042
It wasn't in him.
719
00:36:51,142 --> 00:36:53,512
He' run up on a wreck or
anything else, he'd see blood,
720
00:36:53,612 --> 00:36:55,781
he'd go to pieces.
721
00:36:55,881 --> 00:36:57,215
He doesn't stand blood.
722
00:36:57,316 --> 00:37:01,753
He couldn't shoot nobody
six times, no way.
723
00:37:01,853 --> 00:37:06,258
I believe that someone
else killed Trish.
724
00:37:06,358 --> 00:37:09,928
And the reason they didn't
kill Dub there on the scene
725
00:37:10,028 --> 00:37:13,465
was to make it look like
that Dub had done it.
726
00:37:13,565 --> 00:37:16,268
All this time, they've been
looking for Dub and Dub only,
727
00:37:16,368 --> 00:37:19,371
the law has.
728
00:37:19,471 --> 00:37:20,872
They've never looked
for anybody else.
729
00:37:20,972 --> 00:37:24,876
So whoever did do it has
gotten away with it so far.
730
00:37:28,179 --> 00:37:30,782
Now, under normal
circumstances,
731
00:37:30,882 --> 00:37:33,785
Dub was an easy going,
very likable person.
732
00:37:33,885 --> 00:37:35,887
But if he was
pushed to the point,
733
00:37:35,987 --> 00:37:38,757
and enraged, and
made mad enough--
734
00:37:38,857 --> 00:37:41,460
and we feel that probably
Chance was the trigger,
735
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,363
Chance was the pivot point--
736
00:37:44,463 --> 00:37:46,332
that this set him off.
737
00:37:46,432 --> 00:37:50,836
And he did something,
committed this act,
738
00:37:50,936 --> 00:37:53,439
that had he been given
five minutes to stop,
739
00:37:53,539 --> 00:37:55,607
and back off, and
think about it,
740
00:37:55,707 --> 00:37:58,844
he probably would
not have done it.
741
00:37:58,944 --> 00:38:00,346
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Four months passed,
742
00:38:00,446 --> 00:38:02,881
but no sign of Dub or Chance.
743
00:38:02,981 --> 00:38:06,852
Then, at the house of
Chance's maternal grandfather.
744
00:38:06,952 --> 00:38:07,753
Hello?
745
00:38:07,853 --> 00:38:08,720
BOY: Help me.
746
00:38:08,820 --> 00:38:12,190
Help me.
747
00:38:12,290 --> 00:38:13,392
Hello?
748
00:38:13,492 --> 00:38:14,626
Hello?
749
00:38:14,726 --> 00:38:16,795
All he said was, help me.
750
00:38:16,895 --> 00:38:19,631
And then the phone was
jerked out of his hand,
751
00:38:19,731 --> 00:38:22,434
and slammed down.
752
00:38:22,534 --> 00:38:24,770
And I looked over at my wife.
753
00:38:24,870 --> 00:38:25,837
And I said, that was Chance.
754
00:38:28,574 --> 00:38:32,310
Could the plea for help have
come from Chance Walker Hagen?
755
00:38:32,411 --> 00:38:35,947
Dub's family is convinced
the answer is no.
756
00:38:36,047 --> 00:38:37,883
They believe the
phone call was a hoax,
757
00:38:37,983 --> 00:38:41,152
and that Dub and
Chance were murdered.
758
00:38:41,252 --> 00:38:44,155
Latricia's family
dismisses that scenario.
759
00:38:44,255 --> 00:38:45,957
They believe that
Dub is a killer,
760
00:38:46,057 --> 00:38:49,327
and still very much alive.
761
00:38:49,428 --> 00:38:51,863
I feel someone in his
family is helping him,
762
00:38:51,963 --> 00:38:56,535
because I just don't think
a person can just disappear
763
00:38:56,635 --> 00:39:02,107
and not get help from
somewhere to help you survive,
764
00:39:02,207 --> 00:39:06,311
and to get to where you need
to go without being caught.
765
00:39:06,412 --> 00:39:08,847
I haven't heard from him.
766
00:39:08,947 --> 00:39:12,418
I haven't given him any
money, haven't done nothing.
767
00:39:12,518 --> 00:39:18,857
And there is no way that
him, Dub, and that boy Chance
768
00:39:18,957 --> 00:39:22,561
can survive without money.
769
00:39:22,661 --> 00:39:25,564
They just want to believe
that we know where they are,
770
00:39:25,664 --> 00:39:27,766
and that we're helping them,
because that way they know
771
00:39:27,866 --> 00:39:29,768
that Chance and Dub were alive.
772
00:39:29,868 --> 00:39:33,972
But they can't be alive,
because we would have heard.
773
00:39:36,708 --> 00:39:38,143
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Lee Dub Walker Hagen
774
00:39:38,243 --> 00:39:40,579
is 40 years old,
six feet four inches
775
00:39:40,679 --> 00:39:43,615
tall, and weighs 240 pounds.
776
00:39:43,715 --> 00:39:46,184
He has blue eyes and blond hair.
777
00:39:46,284 --> 00:39:47,653
Investigators
believe that he could
778
00:39:47,753 --> 00:39:50,188
be practically anyone
because of his connections
779
00:39:50,288 --> 00:39:53,091
in the trucking industry.
780
00:39:53,191 --> 00:39:55,126
Chance Walker Hagen
is 10 years old,
781
00:39:55,226 --> 00:39:57,896
and weighs
approximately 64 pounds.
782
00:39:57,996 --> 00:40:02,634
He has blue eyes, blond
hair, and a fair complexion.
783
00:40:02,734 --> 00:40:06,171
I want to find out
what happened to him.
784
00:40:06,271 --> 00:40:08,907
I want to know one
way or the other.
785
00:40:09,007 --> 00:40:13,244
And I want everyone else to
know, because none of us,
786
00:40:13,344 --> 00:40:17,015
none of the families, can have
any kind of peace whatsoever.
787
00:40:17,115 --> 00:40:19,551
You know, the Whites
have lost their daughter.
788
00:40:19,651 --> 00:40:24,456
And lost her son, and
we've lost two people.
789
00:40:24,556 --> 00:40:27,025
And I think that
we all need to know
790
00:40:27,125 --> 00:40:30,662
what really happened to him.
791
00:40:30,762 --> 00:40:33,632
[music playing]
792
00:40:48,079 --> 00:40:49,247
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Next, see
793
00:40:49,347 --> 00:40:53,852
how your tips led to the
capture of a dangerous fugitive.
794
00:40:53,952 --> 00:40:55,754
[music playing]
795
00:41:02,628 --> 00:41:04,730
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
On August 19, 1992,
796
00:41:04,830 --> 00:41:07,132
20-year-old Travis
Wade Duncan staged
797
00:41:07,232 --> 00:41:09,868
a brazen daylight raid on
the Seminole County jail
798
00:41:09,968 --> 00:41:12,838
in Oklahoma.
799
00:41:12,938 --> 00:41:15,006
He fled the scene
with two inmates, John
800
00:41:15,106 --> 00:41:17,342
Fisher and Timothy Johnson.
801
00:41:17,442 --> 00:41:19,678
Duncan himself had been
an inmate at the jail
802
00:41:19,778 --> 00:41:20,979
until just the day before.
803
00:41:24,750 --> 00:41:27,252
With Duncan behind the
wheel, the three fugitives
804
00:41:27,352 --> 00:41:29,755
led authorities on a
reckless, high speed chase
805
00:41:29,855 --> 00:41:32,658
through central Oklahoma,
a run and gun battle
806
00:41:32,758 --> 00:41:34,225
that lasted more than an hour.
807
00:41:38,063 --> 00:41:40,766
Every time he'd lean out and
try to draw a bead on my unit,
808
00:41:40,866 --> 00:41:42,400
then I would go to the
left or the driver side
809
00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:45,837
to get as far over as I could
to get out of the line of fire.
810
00:41:48,740 --> 00:41:52,043
This is something that you
expect to see on the movies.
811
00:41:52,143 --> 00:41:54,145
But you don't really
expect it to happen to you.
812
00:41:57,749 --> 00:41:59,284
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): By 7:30 PM,
813
00:41:59,384 --> 00:42:02,688
the three fugitives had
rampaged along a 150 mile
814
00:42:02,788 --> 00:42:04,756
stretch of Interstate
40 at speeds
815
00:42:04,856 --> 00:42:06,992
of up to 100 miles per hour.
816
00:42:07,092 --> 00:42:10,261
But nothing slowed the pursuit,
not even a homemade bomb.
817
00:42:13,899 --> 00:42:16,334
That Molotov cocktail
failed to ignite,
818
00:42:16,434 --> 00:42:18,804
because it hit the road,
the wind, the high speed,
819
00:42:18,904 --> 00:42:20,906
blew wick out of it
and it was smoldering.
820
00:42:25,844 --> 00:42:27,378
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The chase finally ended
821
00:42:27,478 --> 00:42:29,280
on the shores of Kerr Lake.
822
00:42:29,380 --> 00:42:32,383
After a brief firefight,
Fisher, Duncan, and Johnson
823
00:42:32,483 --> 00:42:34,019
fled into the woods.
824
00:42:34,119 --> 00:42:37,055
Unwittingly, they had trapped
themselves on a peninsula
825
00:42:37,155 --> 00:42:38,156
jutting into the lake.
826
00:42:42,493 --> 00:42:43,328
Come out!
827
00:42:43,428 --> 00:42:44,295
Don't shoot!
828
00:42:44,395 --> 00:42:45,363
Put your hands
up over year head!
829
00:42:45,463 --> 00:42:46,598
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Within an hour,
830
00:42:46,698 --> 00:42:49,367
Fisher and Johnson were
cornered and taken into custody.
831
00:42:49,467 --> 00:42:53,438
But Travis Duncan and somehow
managed to elude the dragnet.
832
00:42:53,538 --> 00:42:56,441
For more than 20 months, his
whereabouts remained a mystery.
833
00:43:02,213 --> 00:43:06,551
Update-- on May 5th,
1994, Travis Wade Duncan
834
00:43:06,652 --> 00:43:09,688
finally came home to
Seminole County, Oklahoma,
835
00:43:09,788 --> 00:43:12,423
five days after he was
arrested in Boise, Idaho.
836
00:43:16,027 --> 00:43:18,263
Thanks to a tip from
an alert viewer,
837
00:43:18,363 --> 00:43:22,067
Duncan's life on the
run is finally over.
838
00:43:22,167 --> 00:43:24,836
We believe that he went from
Oklahoma, to North or South
839
00:43:24,936 --> 00:43:27,773
Carolina, has went into
Washington and Oregon,
840
00:43:27,873 --> 00:43:31,009
went to Hawaii, was in
Arizona prior to being
841
00:43:31,109 --> 00:43:32,878
arrested in Boise, Idaho.
842
00:43:32,978 --> 00:43:36,447
So he had traveled around doing
odd jobs, living from one state
843
00:43:36,547 --> 00:43:38,784
to another.
844
00:43:38,884 --> 00:43:40,185
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Once in custody,
845
00:43:40,285 --> 00:43:43,254
Duncan willingly revealed
the details of his escape
846
00:43:43,354 --> 00:43:45,791
from Kerr Lake.
847
00:43:45,891 --> 00:43:47,693
Travis told me
that after the crash,
848
00:43:47,793 --> 00:43:50,328
he stayed in the woods,
traveled through the woods,
849
00:43:50,428 --> 00:43:53,364
until he came to the edge
of the water on Kerr Lake.
850
00:43:53,464 --> 00:43:57,235
He stayed hid in the bushes
till about an hour after dark.
851
00:43:57,335 --> 00:43:59,838
And then he swam a cove, which
would be approximately half
852
00:43:59,938 --> 00:44:03,541
a mile wide, and then came up,
and stayed in the tree line,
853
00:44:03,641 --> 00:44:05,610
and walked a mountain line out.
854
00:44:05,711 --> 00:44:10,048
And he was able to catch a ride,
and go east from that area.
855
00:44:10,148 --> 00:44:11,649
I'm delighted that
he's behind bars.
856
00:44:11,750 --> 00:44:13,985
That kind of ends this story.
857
00:44:14,085 --> 00:44:16,121
And I'm completely
satisfied with the results,
858
00:44:16,221 --> 00:44:17,823
that nobody was injured.
859
00:44:17,923 --> 00:44:19,257
He was apprehended.
860
00:44:19,357 --> 00:44:21,292
And he's facing the
years in the penitentiary
861
00:44:21,392 --> 00:44:23,862
that he's looking at.
862
00:44:23,962 --> 00:44:26,364
[music playing]
863
00:44:59,898 --> 00:45:03,468
Next week, join me for
a special presentation,
864
00:45:03,568 --> 00:45:06,704
"Mysteries of the Afterlife."
865
00:45:06,805 --> 00:45:10,541
On a stormy evening in
1975, Dannion Brinkley
866
00:45:10,641 --> 00:45:13,544
was struck by a powerful
bolt of lightning.
867
00:45:13,644 --> 00:45:15,513
Dannion says he
embarked on a remarkable
868
00:45:15,613 --> 00:45:17,783
near-death experience,
which apparently
869
00:45:17,883 --> 00:45:19,284
left him with psychic powers.
870
00:45:21,953 --> 00:45:25,390
Just days before her wedding,
21-year-old Karen Walker
871
00:45:25,490 --> 00:45:29,627
passed away after a long,
painful battle with cancer.
872
00:45:29,727 --> 00:45:33,231
Karen's mother claims that ever
since, Karen has communicated
873
00:45:33,331 --> 00:45:36,334
with her, imparting
valuable lessons on living
874
00:45:36,434 --> 00:45:39,304
from beyond the grave.
875
00:45:39,404 --> 00:45:42,440
And the chilling tale of a young
girl's encounter with the dead.
876
00:45:42,540 --> 00:45:45,176
Heidi Warwick's parents
were stunned to learn
877
00:45:45,276 --> 00:45:48,213
that her imaginary
playmates might, in fact, be
878
00:45:48,313 --> 00:45:50,581
the restless spirits
of real people
879
00:45:50,681 --> 00:45:52,150
who are passed to
the other side.
880
00:45:54,986 --> 00:45:57,622
Join me next Friday,
as we explore
881
00:45:57,722 --> 00:45:59,657
the mysteries of the afterlife.
882
00:45:59,757 --> 00:46:02,393
[music playing]
68688
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