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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,705 --> 00:00:07,408 This program is about unsolved mysteries. 2 00:00:07,508 --> 00:00:09,410 Whenever possible, the actual family members 3 00:00:09,510 --> 00:00:11,379 and police officials have participated 4 00:00:11,479 --> 00:00:13,013 in recreating the events. 5 00:00:13,114 --> 00:00:20,521 What you are about to see is not a news broadcast 6 00:00:20,621 --> 00:00:23,324 The breathtaking beauty of Canada's Yukon Territory 7 00:00:23,424 --> 00:00:26,094 has captivated travelers for generations. 8 00:00:26,194 --> 00:00:28,229 But when Philip Fraser of Anchorage, Alaska 9 00:00:28,329 --> 00:00:31,065 picked up a lone hitchhiker, the wilderness became 10 00:00:31,165 --> 00:00:34,535 the gateway to a nightmare. 11 00:00:34,635 --> 00:00:37,771 In 1990, four men were cast adrift when their fishing boat 12 00:00:37,871 --> 00:00:39,873 sunk off the coast of Georgia. 13 00:00:39,973 --> 00:00:42,376 After an incredible four day ordeal, one of them 14 00:00:42,476 --> 00:00:43,711 was rescued. 15 00:00:43,811 --> 00:00:46,947 As for the other three, a series of strange phone calls 16 00:00:47,047 --> 00:00:49,717 suggests that they are being held against their will 17 00:00:49,817 --> 00:00:52,353 in a foreign country. 18 00:00:52,453 --> 00:00:54,855 When he was 20, Mack McDonald fell madly 19 00:00:54,955 --> 00:00:56,890 in love with a girl next door. 20 00:00:56,990 --> 00:01:01,095 A year later, Mack met his child for the first and last time. 21 00:01:01,195 --> 00:01:04,232 Now that child could inherit Mack's estate, estimated 22 00:01:04,332 --> 00:01:07,401 at more than $1 million. 23 00:01:07,501 --> 00:01:09,803 Free-wheeling Las Vegas was a perfect locale 24 00:01:09,903 --> 00:01:14,041 for Max Carson, a fast-talking, self-styled film producer. 25 00:01:14,142 --> 00:01:17,010 In reality, Carson was a hustler and ex-cop 26 00:01:17,111 --> 00:01:18,779 named William John Wood. 27 00:01:18,879 --> 00:01:21,815 He is now wanted for rape. 28 00:01:21,915 --> 00:01:25,153 Join me for these intriguing new stories. 29 00:01:25,253 --> 00:01:29,723 Perhaps you may be able to help solve a mystery. 30 00:01:29,823 --> 00:01:32,226 [music playing] 31 00:02:13,967 --> 00:02:16,370 [music playing] 32 00:02:19,473 --> 00:02:22,710 Alaska, America's last frontier. 33 00:02:22,810 --> 00:02:26,414 Highway 1 is its lifeline, a thin asphalt ribbon which 34 00:02:26,514 --> 00:02:28,616 cuts through Canada's Yukon Territory 35 00:02:28,716 --> 00:02:33,654 to connect Alaska to the continental United States. 36 00:02:33,754 --> 00:02:37,458 On June 14, 1988, 25-year-old Phillip Fraser, 37 00:02:37,558 --> 00:02:40,160 the son of two physicians, left his home in Anchorage 38 00:02:40,261 --> 00:02:42,396 to enroll in a pre-med course at Evergreen 39 00:02:42,496 --> 00:02:44,798 College in Washington state. 40 00:02:44,898 --> 00:02:47,535 Philip had packed up everything he owned for the trip, 41 00:02:47,635 --> 00:02:48,602 including two handguns. 42 00:02:53,841 --> 00:02:57,245 On June 17, after losing two days to car trouble, 43 00:02:57,345 --> 00:03:00,714 Philip crossed the border into Canada. 44 00:03:00,814 --> 00:03:01,882 - Hi, where are you coming from? - Alaska. 45 00:03:01,982 --> 00:03:03,284 Alaska. Where are you headed? 46 00:03:03,384 --> 00:03:04,318 Washington. I'm a student. 47 00:03:04,418 --> 00:03:05,553 You're going to school down there, then? 48 00:03:05,653 --> 00:03:06,687 Yeah. 49 00:03:06,787 --> 00:03:07,821 Anything on board, any goods that you purchased 50 00:03:07,921 --> 00:03:09,056 that you're bringing across? 51 00:03:09,156 --> 00:03:10,991 Um, just my books and things like that for school. 52 00:03:11,091 --> 00:03:13,060 At Beaver Creek, Philip was entering 53 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,830 into Canada from Alaska into our Yukon Territory. 54 00:03:16,930 --> 00:03:22,069 And Philip did declare that he'd had two firearms of his own. 55 00:03:22,169 --> 00:03:24,772 And at that point, our Canada customs people 56 00:03:24,872 --> 00:03:28,108 seized the firearms from him, as it is illegal for Americans 57 00:03:28,208 --> 00:03:35,449 to enter Canada with any kind of a firearm. 58 00:03:35,549 --> 00:03:39,186 After a one hour delay, Phillip Fraser was on his way. 59 00:03:39,287 --> 00:03:42,523 His guns became the property of the Canadian government. 60 00:03:47,395 --> 00:03:50,931 The next day, 600 miles south of the border checkpoint, 61 00:03:51,031 --> 00:03:53,501 a hitchhiker was dropped off at the 40 Mile Flat 62 00:03:53,601 --> 00:03:55,969 Cafe, owned by Gay Frocklage. 63 00:03:56,069 --> 00:03:58,038 Gay and her daughter, Tina, were on duty. 64 00:04:00,808 --> 00:04:02,643 The individual that dropped him off 65 00:04:02,743 --> 00:04:06,280 didn't come into the cafe, just dropped him off and left. 66 00:04:06,380 --> 00:04:09,383 And just looking at him through the window, 67 00:04:09,483 --> 00:04:10,684 it was something wrong. 68 00:04:10,784 --> 00:04:12,920 He didn't-- there was something wrong with him, 69 00:04:13,020 --> 00:04:15,989 you know, in appearance wasn't comfortable. 70 00:04:16,089 --> 00:04:22,763 And I said to Tina, we've got a winner here. 71 00:04:22,863 --> 00:04:25,098 There's something wrong with this guy. 72 00:04:25,198 --> 00:04:26,600 I remember saying to mom, you know 73 00:04:26,700 --> 00:04:28,902 maybe he escaped from a mental institution, 74 00:04:29,002 --> 00:04:29,803 because he was so strange. 75 00:04:33,574 --> 00:04:34,642 I think we got a problem here. 76 00:04:34,742 --> 00:04:35,543 Yeah. 77 00:04:35,643 --> 00:04:37,378 Are you going to stick around? 78 00:04:37,478 --> 00:04:39,347 Yeah, I think I better best not leave you alone. 79 00:04:39,447 --> 00:04:41,849 I wouldn't leave all alone in the building 80 00:04:41,949 --> 00:04:45,919 with him, as there was nobody else there at the time. 81 00:04:46,019 --> 00:04:49,923 And so I said to Tina, well, you go ahead and take care of him 82 00:04:50,023 --> 00:04:53,427 and I'll just hang around. 83 00:04:53,527 --> 00:04:58,966 As I passed the side window, I seen a small black car pull up, 84 00:04:59,066 --> 00:05:01,301 right to the side of the cafe. 85 00:05:01,402 --> 00:05:05,406 And the young man in the car didn't get out of the car 86 00:05:05,506 --> 00:05:07,641 but proceeded to act like he was searching 87 00:05:07,741 --> 00:05:12,413 his car, like he had misplaced something that he needed. 88 00:05:12,513 --> 00:05:15,749 During this time was when another vehicle pulled up 89 00:05:15,849 --> 00:05:18,519 to the service station. 90 00:05:18,619 --> 00:05:19,987 Yeah, Tina, there's a car at the pumps. 91 00:05:20,087 --> 00:05:22,456 Do you want to serve him gas, and I'll just stay in here. 92 00:05:22,556 --> 00:05:23,424 OK, sure. 93 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,662 Tina Frocklage went to the parking lot 94 00:05:28,762 --> 00:05:31,031 to pump gas for another customer. 95 00:05:31,131 --> 00:05:33,100 She and Phillip Fraser exchanged hellos. 96 00:05:36,303 --> 00:05:37,170 Is that everything? 97 00:05:37,270 --> 00:05:39,540 Yeah. 98 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,875 Gay and Tina were relieved when the hitchhiker 99 00:05:41,975 --> 00:05:43,477 finished his meal. 100 00:05:43,577 --> 00:05:45,979 They remember that he paid his bill in Canadian money. 101 00:05:51,151 --> 00:05:54,254 I watched the hitchhiker go out and approach Fraser. 102 00:05:59,527 --> 00:06:01,094 - Where you heading? - Down south. 103 00:06:01,194 --> 00:06:02,029 Yeah? 104 00:06:02,129 --> 00:06:03,797 I'm heading that way, too. - Good. 105 00:06:03,897 --> 00:06:05,165 How about a ride? 106 00:06:05,265 --> 00:06:07,167 Uh, I'm going to go in here yet. 107 00:06:07,267 --> 00:06:08,168 - You sure? - Yeah. 108 00:06:08,268 --> 00:06:09,069 All right. 109 00:06:14,475 --> 00:06:16,610 The car sat for a few minutes, and then he pulled ahead 110 00:06:16,710 --> 00:06:17,678 like he had second thoughts. 111 00:06:21,181 --> 00:06:23,016 Still heading in this direction? 112 00:06:23,116 --> 00:06:24,952 I thought you were going to have a bite to eat. 113 00:06:25,052 --> 00:06:26,887 Mind if I go with you? 114 00:06:26,987 --> 00:06:30,057 The hitchhiker just ran beside him and pulled the door open, 115 00:06:30,157 --> 00:06:33,527 and the young man in the car proceeded to let him enter. 116 00:06:46,006 --> 00:06:48,676 The strange thing was was as they left the yard, 117 00:06:48,776 --> 00:06:52,212 Tina made some remark about he's going to live to regret 118 00:06:52,312 --> 00:06:54,648 this day he picked this man up. 119 00:06:54,748 --> 00:06:57,618 It was like a sixth sense that this man 120 00:06:57,718 --> 00:06:58,719 was capable of anything. 121 00:07:07,528 --> 00:07:10,731 Eight hours later and 200 miles south of the 40 Mile Flat 122 00:07:10,831 --> 00:07:13,534 Cafe, Eddie and Pauline Olson of Katwanga, 123 00:07:13,634 --> 00:07:15,903 Canada pulled over to help a stranded motorist. 124 00:07:25,579 --> 00:07:27,548 Oh, wow, am I glad to see you guys. 125 00:07:27,648 --> 00:07:28,982 Hey, I think my car ran out of gas. 126 00:07:29,082 --> 00:07:30,217 I don't know what happened, because I 127 00:07:30,317 --> 00:07:33,687 stopped at the last gas stop, but it just quit. 128 00:07:33,787 --> 00:07:35,523 I'm on my way to college and I've got all my stuff 129 00:07:35,623 --> 00:07:36,957 in the back of the car. 130 00:07:37,057 --> 00:07:40,293 You could tell he was nervous, but I thought that-- 131 00:07:40,393 --> 00:07:43,296 well, you know, he was just scared of being out here 132 00:07:43,396 --> 00:07:45,933 this late at night, didn't want to stay out here, 133 00:07:46,033 --> 00:07:48,669 because it's kind of a remote area. 134 00:07:48,769 --> 00:07:54,407 And at that point I just said, well, I'll tow you home 135 00:07:54,508 --> 00:07:55,943 and we'll figure it out in the morning. 136 00:08:00,948 --> 00:08:03,150 Now, you can sleep down here. 137 00:08:03,250 --> 00:08:05,418 We've had quite a few people stay down here, 138 00:08:05,519 --> 00:08:06,954 and they have pretty good sleep. 139 00:08:07,054 --> 00:08:08,288 No, this will be great. 140 00:08:08,388 --> 00:08:11,458 I really appreciate everything you guys have done for me. 141 00:08:11,559 --> 00:08:13,961 You can just pick out whichever couch you want there, 142 00:08:14,061 --> 00:08:16,329 and there are some blankets right there. 143 00:08:16,429 --> 00:08:17,598 OK. 144 00:08:17,698 --> 00:08:19,232 Have a good sleep, and we'll see you in the morning. 145 00:08:19,332 --> 00:08:20,601 All right, thanks. I'll sleep good. 146 00:08:25,505 --> 00:08:28,508 He slept downstairs in our basement, 147 00:08:28,609 --> 00:08:33,947 and I have about 12 or 15 guns in a gun case down there. 148 00:08:34,047 --> 00:08:37,785 And where he slept, the guns were just right beside him 149 00:08:37,885 --> 00:08:39,987 there. 150 00:08:40,087 --> 00:08:40,954 Oh, good morning. 151 00:08:41,054 --> 00:08:41,855 How did you sleep? 152 00:08:41,955 --> 00:08:43,356 Oh, I slept great, thanks. 153 00:08:43,456 --> 00:08:45,158 Oh, sit down, have of coffee. 154 00:08:45,258 --> 00:08:46,894 Thank you. 155 00:08:46,994 --> 00:08:48,495 The next morning, the young man 156 00:08:48,596 --> 00:08:51,632 told the Olsons that his parents were both doctors in Anchorage 157 00:08:51,732 --> 00:08:53,701 and that he was on his way to college in the States 158 00:08:53,801 --> 00:08:55,769 to study medicine. 159 00:08:55,869 --> 00:08:57,404 And I really wanted to thank you guys. 160 00:08:57,504 --> 00:08:59,740 Well, I got talking to him about his car, 161 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:01,609 and he told me that if I was interested, 162 00:09:01,709 --> 00:09:03,744 he would sell it to me. 163 00:09:03,844 --> 00:09:06,980 And I said, well, I was interested, 164 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,683 because all he wanted was a plane ticket to Seattle. 165 00:09:09,783 --> 00:09:11,852 But I said, the only way I would buy it 166 00:09:11,952 --> 00:09:15,355 is if he waited till Monday and we went through customs. 167 00:09:15,455 --> 00:09:17,625 And he said that would be too late for him. 168 00:09:17,725 --> 00:09:18,992 I can't wait till Monday. 169 00:09:19,092 --> 00:09:21,494 I need to be in Seattle on Monday. 170 00:09:21,595 --> 00:09:22,963 I really can't wait. 171 00:09:23,063 --> 00:09:24,564 I really need to get going. 172 00:09:24,665 --> 00:09:27,067 Is there something I can do for your hospitality? 173 00:09:27,167 --> 00:09:28,401 Anything? 174 00:09:28,501 --> 00:09:30,804 The Olsons were surprised when the young man 175 00:09:30,904 --> 00:09:34,775 pulled out two wallets and began to behave secretively. 176 00:09:34,875 --> 00:09:37,544 He gave the Alston's $20 in American money, 177 00:09:37,645 --> 00:09:38,946 then left to fix his car. 178 00:09:39,046 --> 00:09:39,847 Thank you. 179 00:09:44,417 --> 00:09:46,854 Within an hour, the young man was back on the road, 180 00:09:46,954 --> 00:09:48,188 headed south. 181 00:09:48,288 --> 00:09:50,123 The car trouble had turned out to be nothing 182 00:09:50,223 --> 00:09:58,699 more than a broken fan belt. 183 00:09:58,799 --> 00:10:02,369 12 Hours later, the charred ruins of Phillip Fraser's car 184 00:10:02,469 --> 00:10:04,037 were found at a car wash in Prince 185 00:10:04,137 --> 00:10:07,607 George, British Columbia, 300 miles from the Olsons' home. 186 00:10:10,844 --> 00:10:13,546 The condition of the car after it was burned, 187 00:10:13,647 --> 00:10:16,383 it was almost totally gutted out on the inside 188 00:10:16,483 --> 00:10:22,022 due to the fire and fire damage to the outside, as well. 189 00:10:25,625 --> 00:10:28,028 Nothing was found in the car of any significance. 190 00:10:28,128 --> 00:10:31,665 In fact, none of Phillip Fraser's belongings 191 00:10:31,765 --> 00:10:32,766 have ever been found. 192 00:10:35,602 --> 00:10:38,171 The parents were contacted in Alaska, 193 00:10:38,271 --> 00:10:42,810 and there was a great deal of investigation done 194 00:10:42,910 --> 00:10:46,379 at that point, as Phillip was considered 195 00:10:46,479 --> 00:10:50,317 a missing person and potentially a homicide victim. 196 00:10:50,417 --> 00:10:56,256 I was sure that there had been foul play, 197 00:10:56,356 --> 00:11:00,627 but I kept hoping, thinking of all sorts of alternatives, 198 00:11:00,728 --> 00:11:05,098 like maybe he decided he wanted to ditch his car 199 00:11:05,198 --> 00:11:07,267 and being on his own. 200 00:11:07,367 --> 00:11:11,004 And I knew-- intellectually, I knew that was wrong, 201 00:11:11,104 --> 00:11:14,141 because he really loved his car. 202 00:11:14,241 --> 00:11:16,543 Six weeks later, a body was discovered 203 00:11:16,643 --> 00:11:20,280 in a gravel turnaround area 70 miles from the Olsons' home. 204 00:11:24,417 --> 00:11:26,019 At the time of the discovery of the body, 205 00:11:26,119 --> 00:11:28,621 it was already well known about the incident 206 00:11:28,722 --> 00:11:31,759 of the car burning in the car wash in Prince George. 207 00:11:31,859 --> 00:11:33,593 And almost immediately, investigators 208 00:11:33,693 --> 00:11:38,698 who are looking at the remains being that of Phillip Fraser. 209 00:11:38,799 --> 00:11:41,735 In order to do a positive identification, 210 00:11:41,835 --> 00:11:44,104 we required dental records from Alaska, which 211 00:11:44,204 --> 00:11:47,975 we obtained very quickly and were able to make 212 00:11:48,075 --> 00:11:51,644 that identification. 213 00:11:51,745 --> 00:11:54,882 I think-- excuse me. 214 00:11:54,982 --> 00:11:58,451 Any parent who loses a kid feels like he's lost part of himself. 215 00:11:58,551 --> 00:12:00,653 I think that's the-- 216 00:12:00,754 --> 00:12:05,158 one of the things you definitely feel, you feel like you 217 00:12:05,258 --> 00:12:06,559 aren't intact yourself. 218 00:12:09,596 --> 00:12:13,400 I just think it's very difficult to describe it in words. 219 00:12:13,500 --> 00:12:15,402 You felt like your life and your family 220 00:12:15,502 --> 00:12:17,537 has been truncated, cut off. 221 00:12:20,908 --> 00:12:27,881 I felt angry, bitter. 222 00:12:27,981 --> 00:12:32,886 I wondered, what sort of a person, what kind of a person 223 00:12:32,986 --> 00:12:38,859 would destroy someone who is so idealistic and so full of life? 224 00:12:42,062 --> 00:12:44,164 What really happened along that lonely stretch 225 00:12:44,264 --> 00:12:45,899 of Highway 1? 226 00:12:45,999 --> 00:12:47,700 The Royal Canadian Mounted Police 227 00:12:47,801 --> 00:12:49,602 theorize that the mystery hitchhiker 228 00:12:49,702 --> 00:12:52,339 learned everything he could about Philip Fraser 229 00:12:52,439 --> 00:12:54,274 and then killed him. 230 00:12:54,374 --> 00:12:57,044 They believe the hitchhiker assumed Phillip's identity, 231 00:12:57,144 --> 00:12:59,379 stole his possessions, and finally 232 00:12:59,479 --> 00:13:00,981 attempted to destroy the car. 233 00:13:05,085 --> 00:13:07,787 In my mind, he most definitely is a dangerous person. 234 00:13:07,888 --> 00:13:11,825 He's taken one life. 235 00:13:11,925 --> 00:13:15,428 He has the capability of taking more. 236 00:13:15,528 --> 00:13:19,099 As to whether he has done this type of thing before, 237 00:13:19,199 --> 00:13:20,600 I couldn't say that. 238 00:13:20,700 --> 00:13:22,903 But we know he has taken one life, 239 00:13:23,003 --> 00:13:25,338 and I would consider him very dangerous. 240 00:13:30,410 --> 00:13:33,180 These are composite drawings of the hitchhiker, based 241 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,682 on the descriptions of Gay and Tina Frockledge 242 00:13:35,782 --> 00:13:37,450 and Eddie and Pauline Olson. 243 00:13:37,550 --> 00:13:40,988 He is Caucasian, about five feet nine inches tall, 244 00:13:41,088 --> 00:13:44,524 and weighs approximately 225 pounds. 245 00:13:44,624 --> 00:13:46,793 He has a flabby belly which overhangs his belt, 246 00:13:46,894 --> 00:13:49,930 and is between 20 and 25 years old. 247 00:13:50,030 --> 00:13:51,798 He has brown hair and brown eyes. 248 00:13:54,935 --> 00:13:56,436 The authorities believe that the hitchhiker 249 00:13:56,536 --> 00:13:58,972 is familiar with the Toronto area and the Seattle, 250 00:13:59,072 --> 00:14:00,707 Washington area. 251 00:14:00,807 --> 00:14:04,077 He may be masquerading as Philip Innes Fraser. 252 00:14:04,177 --> 00:14:05,845 Among the items never recovered were 253 00:14:05,946 --> 00:14:07,747 Philip Frasier's birth certificate, 254 00:14:07,847 --> 00:14:10,217 visa, passport, and checkbook. 255 00:14:12,385 --> 00:14:14,821 Next, three fishermen are lost at sea, 256 00:14:14,922 --> 00:14:16,856 but some believe they survived and are 257 00:14:16,957 --> 00:14:18,425 being held against their will. 258 00:14:23,997 --> 00:14:25,899 [music playing] 259 00:14:29,002 --> 00:14:31,571 The vast oceans of the world have captivated humankind 260 00:14:31,671 --> 00:14:34,074 since the dawn of civilization. 261 00:14:34,174 --> 00:14:36,143 The young especially seemed drawn by the promise 262 00:14:36,243 --> 00:14:38,378 of adventure and romance, but there 263 00:14:38,478 --> 00:14:40,613 are also 1,000 hidden dangers. 264 00:14:40,713 --> 00:14:43,716 Sometimes the sea can be an unforgiving mistress. 265 00:14:43,816 --> 00:14:47,154 In 1990 alone, 865 people drowned 266 00:14:47,254 --> 00:14:48,488 in American coastal waters. 267 00:14:54,327 --> 00:14:57,264 April 12, 1990, Richland Hill, Georgia, 268 00:14:57,364 --> 00:14:59,232 just south of Savannah. 269 00:14:59,332 --> 00:15:02,069 Four commercial fishermen prepare to embark on a seven 270 00:15:02,169 --> 00:15:04,404 day expedition in the Atlantic. 271 00:15:04,504 --> 00:15:08,141 The Captain is 23-year-old Billy Joe Neesmith. 272 00:15:08,241 --> 00:15:10,277 The crew includes his brother, Nathan, 273 00:15:10,377 --> 00:15:14,114 his nephew, Keith Wilkes, and a friend, Franklin Brantley. 274 00:15:14,214 --> 00:15:16,349 You're ready, let's go fishing. 275 00:15:16,449 --> 00:15:17,951 Franklin, you in? - I'm in. 276 00:15:18,051 --> 00:15:18,851 I'm in, let's go. 277 00:15:18,952 --> 00:15:21,588 All right, it's all your. 278 00:15:21,688 --> 00:15:23,256 In the late afternoon, they set off 279 00:15:23,356 --> 00:15:26,093 on the Casie Nicole, a snapper boat owned by Billy 280 00:15:26,193 --> 00:15:28,228 Joe Neesmith's employer. 281 00:15:28,328 --> 00:15:29,729 The boat had recently been returned 282 00:15:29,829 --> 00:15:35,235 to service after five weeks in dry dock for maintenance. 283 00:15:35,335 --> 00:15:39,572 We were headed out probably approximately close to 90 miles 284 00:15:39,672 --> 00:15:41,874 offshore. 285 00:15:41,975 --> 00:15:46,746 I guess it was somewhere around 3:30, 286 00:15:46,846 --> 00:15:50,117 4:00 in the morning that next morning. 287 00:15:50,217 --> 00:15:52,119 It was still dark. 288 00:15:52,219 --> 00:15:54,754 I had got up and was operating the boat, 289 00:15:54,854 --> 00:16:00,193 and the boat just seemed to be sluggish, you know, 290 00:16:00,293 --> 00:16:02,295 like it wanted to bust through the waves, 291 00:16:02,395 --> 00:16:03,796 kind of like a submarine or something. 292 00:16:03,896 --> 00:16:05,565 It didn't want to ride over the waves. 293 00:16:05,665 --> 00:16:08,101 Something's wrong. 294 00:16:08,201 --> 00:16:10,537 Man. 295 00:16:10,637 --> 00:16:13,006 We're going to the right. 296 00:16:13,106 --> 00:16:15,408 Billy Joe! 297 00:16:15,508 --> 00:16:18,511 So I told my brother, he was laying in the bunk. 298 00:16:18,611 --> 00:16:19,612 I woke him up. 299 00:16:19,712 --> 00:16:21,614 I said, Billy Joe, I said, all of a sudden, 300 00:16:21,714 --> 00:16:23,050 I said, something's wrong with the boat. 301 00:16:23,150 --> 00:16:24,751 What's up, man? 302 00:16:24,851 --> 00:16:27,487 It won't stay on course. 303 00:16:27,587 --> 00:16:29,122 What do you mean, it won't stay on course? 304 00:16:29,222 --> 00:16:31,024 I'm losing 10, 15 degrees, man. 305 00:16:31,124 --> 00:16:33,226 I tried it manually, and it keeps going off. 306 00:16:33,326 --> 00:16:37,197 And then I tried it automatic pilot, 307 00:16:37,297 --> 00:16:38,331 and it just-- it won't hold, man. 308 00:16:38,431 --> 00:16:39,499 Jesus. 309 00:16:39,599 --> 00:16:42,169 We got to nosing around, the boat was riding 310 00:16:42,269 --> 00:16:43,136 pretty deep in the water. 311 00:16:43,236 --> 00:16:44,337 Yeah, [inaudible] two foot down. 312 00:16:44,437 --> 00:16:45,238 Did you check the engine? 313 00:16:45,338 --> 00:16:46,406 It sounds like sputtering a bit. 314 00:16:46,506 --> 00:16:47,407 No, I ain't checked it, man. 315 00:16:47,507 --> 00:16:50,577 We better check it, though. 316 00:16:50,677 --> 00:16:53,113 Oh man, Nathan, we got two foot of water down there. 317 00:16:53,213 --> 00:16:54,147 Let me see that light. 318 00:16:54,247 --> 00:16:55,115 There you go. 319 00:16:55,215 --> 00:16:57,117 Nathan, did you get them pumps yet? 320 00:16:57,217 --> 00:16:58,051 No. 321 00:16:58,151 --> 00:16:59,719 Hit him a couple times. 322 00:16:59,819 --> 00:17:01,288 And we started working on our pumps, 323 00:17:01,388 --> 00:17:03,523 trying to get our pumps to work to pump the boat out. 324 00:17:03,623 --> 00:17:04,424 How about now? 325 00:17:04,524 --> 00:17:06,025 Nothing. 326 00:17:06,126 --> 00:17:07,660 We got to get them boys up next. 327 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,596 We got to start bucking this water out here right now. 328 00:17:09,696 --> 00:17:13,266 The other crew members slept down in the bow, 329 00:17:13,366 --> 00:17:14,567 and when we turn on the light, we 330 00:17:14,667 --> 00:17:15,968 notice there was water about a foot 331 00:17:16,069 --> 00:17:19,038 deep down in the bunks were they were at. 332 00:17:22,209 --> 00:17:25,578 And we got in a line and started passing the bucket, 333 00:17:25,678 --> 00:17:28,248 trying to bail the boat out. 334 00:17:28,348 --> 00:17:30,217 In the meantime, we took the life raft out. 335 00:17:30,317 --> 00:17:32,919 It was a two man life raft. 336 00:17:33,019 --> 00:17:34,754 We'd been hollering mayday on the radio. 337 00:17:34,854 --> 00:17:35,955 We had Billy Joe on it, working it. 338 00:17:36,055 --> 00:17:36,889 Casie Nicole. 339 00:17:36,989 --> 00:17:38,325 We're taking in water, going down. 340 00:17:38,425 --> 00:17:40,693 Somebody, come back with it, please. 341 00:17:40,793 --> 00:17:42,729 We never did get anywhere with that. 342 00:17:42,829 --> 00:17:45,832 And the engine finally stalled. 343 00:17:45,932 --> 00:17:49,068 Casie Nicole, we're going-- 344 00:17:49,169 --> 00:17:51,738 All power in the Casie Nicole was lost. 345 00:17:51,838 --> 00:17:53,005 The radio was useless. 346 00:17:53,106 --> 00:17:54,974 The four men abandoned ship. 347 00:17:58,711 --> 00:18:00,480 The life raft was kind of rotten. 348 00:18:00,580 --> 00:18:04,151 It had a hole in the side of it, up on the top. 349 00:18:04,251 --> 00:18:07,920 We don't know for sure if the anchor snagged it and tore 350 00:18:08,020 --> 00:18:11,791 this whole in it, or if the whole thing was just rotten 351 00:18:11,891 --> 00:18:13,660 and it eventually wore in it. 352 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,728 We don't really know what happened there, 353 00:18:15,828 --> 00:18:17,397 but we do know that it had a hole in it 354 00:18:17,497 --> 00:18:20,467 about the size of a quarter. 355 00:18:20,567 --> 00:18:24,371 By sunrise, the life raft was sinking fast. 356 00:18:24,471 --> 00:18:26,906 Then salvation came floating by-- 357 00:18:27,006 --> 00:18:29,108 the hatch cover from the Casie Nicole. 358 00:18:29,209 --> 00:18:30,109 I think I got it. 359 00:18:30,210 --> 00:18:31,010 You got it? 360 00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:32,645 Oh, his head. 361 00:18:32,745 --> 00:18:33,613 What you doing, feet? 362 00:18:33,713 --> 00:18:34,581 Come on, buddy. 363 00:18:34,681 --> 00:18:36,015 Oh, I'm tired. 364 00:18:41,888 --> 00:18:43,022 Come on, buddy. 365 00:18:43,122 --> 00:18:45,492 The four men tethered the raft to the hatch cover 366 00:18:45,592 --> 00:18:47,126 and clambered aboard. 367 00:18:47,227 --> 00:18:50,763 It was then that Nathan Neesmith spotted the hull of the Casie 368 00:18:50,863 --> 00:18:52,699 Nicole in the distance. 369 00:18:52,799 --> 00:18:56,836 It looked like it was maybe three or four miles from us. 370 00:18:56,936 --> 00:18:58,571 I said, I don't know what kind of chance we got, 371 00:18:58,671 --> 00:19:01,608 but at least maybe one I was going make it to the boat 372 00:19:01,708 --> 00:19:04,010 and get some kind of help. 373 00:19:04,110 --> 00:19:08,348 Well, that's what I struck out to do. 374 00:19:08,448 --> 00:19:10,350 And they started hollering, no, no, you come back. 375 00:19:10,450 --> 00:19:11,951 You stay with us. 376 00:19:12,051 --> 00:19:13,085 We can't separate up. 377 00:19:13,186 --> 00:19:15,522 If we separate up, we're going to be split up, 378 00:19:15,622 --> 00:19:16,856 and there ain't no telling what go wrong. 379 00:19:26,966 --> 00:19:28,701 I just kept swimming and kept swimming. 380 00:19:28,801 --> 00:19:32,272 I swam from oh, about 9 o'clock that morning. 381 00:19:32,372 --> 00:19:36,843 And just before dark that afternoon, I got to where I 382 00:19:36,943 --> 00:19:38,878 thought was what the boat was. 383 00:19:38,978 --> 00:19:41,948 And I got to looking around and I seen the stern of the boat 384 00:19:42,048 --> 00:19:44,584 sticking up at a distance, probably another 385 00:19:44,684 --> 00:19:47,787 100 yards or so to the right of it. 386 00:19:47,887 --> 00:19:48,821 So I just kept swimming. 387 00:19:51,090 --> 00:19:54,427 I done swam till I thought there wasn't no more swimming in me. 388 00:19:54,527 --> 00:19:57,697 And I drank so much salt water trying to swim in it. 389 00:19:57,797 --> 00:20:02,469 And I was just real weak. 390 00:20:02,569 --> 00:20:05,872 As darkness fell, Nathan lost sight of his companions. 391 00:20:05,972 --> 00:20:08,541 He spent a long, harrowing night clinging to the hull 392 00:20:08,641 --> 00:20:09,609 of the Casie Nicole. 393 00:20:14,146 --> 00:20:15,948 The next morning, a freighter passed 394 00:20:16,048 --> 00:20:18,618 within three miles of Nathan. 395 00:20:18,718 --> 00:20:22,121 This ship here looked like it made about four stops, 396 00:20:22,221 --> 00:20:23,756 maybe five stops. 397 00:20:23,856 --> 00:20:26,326 And each time it would stop or circle, 398 00:20:26,426 --> 00:20:28,928 I could see a fog of smoke boil out of it. 399 00:20:29,028 --> 00:20:34,867 And it was in the direction that my other mates had went, 400 00:20:34,967 --> 00:20:40,206 so I figured that maybe it had stopped to pick them up. 401 00:20:40,307 --> 00:20:42,542 The freighter continued its odd maneuvers for nearly 402 00:20:42,642 --> 00:20:44,977 three hours, then disappeared. 403 00:20:45,077 --> 00:20:48,114 For 2 and 1/2 days, Nathan Neesmith 404 00:20:48,214 --> 00:20:49,749 drifted and prayed that the Casie 405 00:20:49,849 --> 00:20:52,285 Nichole would stay afloat. 406 00:20:52,385 --> 00:20:55,755 All seemed lost, until a large wood and Styrofoam bait 407 00:20:55,855 --> 00:21:00,993 box ripped loose from the boat's deck and popped to the surface. 408 00:21:01,093 --> 00:21:02,995 I couldn't tell what it was for a minute, 409 00:21:03,095 --> 00:21:05,532 because I was scared and everything like that. 410 00:21:05,632 --> 00:21:09,869 And I swam over to it, where I could get a better view of it. 411 00:21:09,969 --> 00:21:11,304 Like I say, I was pretty weak. 412 00:21:11,404 --> 00:21:15,041 I couldn't-- I about starved down I was hungry and thirsty, 413 00:21:15,141 --> 00:21:17,777 and really weak. 414 00:21:17,877 --> 00:21:20,447 And I got to the front of it and blessed god, 415 00:21:20,547 --> 00:21:21,481 the whole front was out. 416 00:21:21,581 --> 00:21:24,384 I mean, it was just like a boat to me. 417 00:21:24,484 --> 00:21:26,719 I mean, it looked like just something 418 00:21:26,819 --> 00:21:28,955 that I needed at the moment. 419 00:21:29,055 --> 00:21:31,458 [music playing] 420 00:21:43,035 --> 00:21:43,970 It was really hot. 421 00:21:44,070 --> 00:21:47,340 I mean, I was getting real sunburnt. 422 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,742 My skin was turning real, real red. 423 00:21:49,842 --> 00:21:51,478 And I was very close to dead. 424 00:21:51,578 --> 00:21:55,281 I mean, actually I was to the stage of death, 425 00:21:55,382 --> 00:21:57,249 but I knew I couldn't give up because I had 426 00:21:57,350 --> 00:21:58,851 two kids and a wife at home. 427 00:21:58,951 --> 00:22:01,253 And I remember saying, God, please 428 00:22:01,354 --> 00:22:03,155 let me go home to my wife and kids 429 00:22:03,255 --> 00:22:05,392 and be able to raise my kids. 430 00:22:05,492 --> 00:22:07,660 Don't let me die in this ocean. 431 00:22:12,632 --> 00:22:16,135 At 10:00 AM on April 15, 1990, Nathan Neesmith 432 00:22:16,235 --> 00:22:19,472 was finally rescued, 20 miles off the coast of Georgia. 433 00:22:19,572 --> 00:22:22,809 He had been adrift without food or water for four days. 434 00:22:30,750 --> 00:22:33,786 Nathan Neesmith's companions were never found. 435 00:22:33,886 --> 00:22:35,888 A large scale search mounted by the Coast Guard 436 00:22:35,988 --> 00:22:39,191 yielded no trace of the life raft or the hatch cover, 437 00:22:39,291 --> 00:22:42,061 but Nathan and his family never gave up hope that the three men 438 00:22:42,161 --> 00:22:44,130 might somehow have survived. 439 00:22:44,230 --> 00:22:47,133 It seemed a futile hope until a strange telephone 440 00:22:47,233 --> 00:22:50,470 call was made to the home of Nathan's sister, Oneda. 441 00:22:50,570 --> 00:22:53,239 [phone ringing] 442 00:22:54,273 --> 00:22:56,776 It was October 5, 1990, six months 443 00:22:56,876 --> 00:22:59,412 after the Casie Nicole sunk. 444 00:22:59,512 --> 00:23:04,250 Oneda's mother-in-law answered the telephone. 445 00:23:04,350 --> 00:23:05,151 Hello. 446 00:23:05,251 --> 00:23:06,586 [speaking gibberish] 447 00:23:06,686 --> 00:23:08,488 What? 448 00:23:08,588 --> 00:23:09,922 I can't understand you. 449 00:23:10,022 --> 00:23:12,759 Can you speak English? 450 00:23:12,859 --> 00:23:15,528 The caller, a man, spoke in Spanish 451 00:23:15,628 --> 00:23:17,764 and seemed unable to understand English. 452 00:23:17,864 --> 00:23:18,831 No. 453 00:23:18,931 --> 00:23:20,166 I can't understand a word you're saying. 454 00:23:20,266 --> 00:23:22,401 Can you speak English? 455 00:23:22,502 --> 00:23:25,237 All this person would keep saying is repeating our phone 456 00:23:25,337 --> 00:23:28,107 number and saying our name. 457 00:23:28,207 --> 00:23:29,208 And that's all. 458 00:23:29,308 --> 00:23:31,377 Then it was just like a cut off. 459 00:23:31,478 --> 00:23:33,446 It wasn't anything after that. 460 00:23:33,546 --> 00:23:36,082 And you know, we just kept Hello, hello. 461 00:23:36,182 --> 00:23:39,619 And it was just cut off, static cut off. 462 00:23:39,719 --> 00:23:42,088 STACK: That same day, an unusual call also 463 00:23:42,188 --> 00:23:44,056 came into the home of Doug Tyson, 464 00:23:44,156 --> 00:23:47,226 owner of the ill-fated Casie Nicole. 465 00:23:47,326 --> 00:23:48,427 Hello? 466 00:23:48,528 --> 00:23:50,763 ROBERT STACK: Once again, the caller was a man. 467 00:23:50,863 --> 00:23:53,432 The only English words he said were the Tysons' 468 00:23:53,533 --> 00:23:55,468 name and telephone number. 469 00:23:55,568 --> 00:23:57,436 That was strange. 470 00:23:57,537 --> 00:23:58,805 What do you mean? 471 00:23:58,905 --> 00:24:00,707 They were speaking in Spanish. 472 00:24:00,807 --> 00:24:01,908 In Spanish? 473 00:24:02,008 --> 00:24:03,510 DOUG TYSON: We didn't say anything about the call 474 00:24:03,610 --> 00:24:04,644 when we got it. 475 00:24:04,744 --> 00:24:07,346 Six weeks later, after that, about six weeks, 476 00:24:07,446 --> 00:24:09,982 we were down visiting with the Neesmith family, 477 00:24:10,082 --> 00:24:13,653 and they started telling us about their call. 478 00:24:13,753 --> 00:24:16,789 And after they got through, I said, how long ago was this? 479 00:24:16,889 --> 00:24:18,390 I asked them. 480 00:24:18,491 --> 00:24:21,761 They thought back a minute, and they said about six weeks. 481 00:24:21,861 --> 00:24:22,695 I looked at my wife. 482 00:24:22,795 --> 00:24:25,197 She looked at me, nodded her head. 483 00:24:25,297 --> 00:24:26,432 He said, about the same time? 484 00:24:26,533 --> 00:24:29,301 And I said, yeah. 485 00:24:29,401 --> 00:24:32,505 ROBERT STACK: Over the next year, five more calls came in-- 486 00:24:32,605 --> 00:24:35,542 three to Oneda and two to that Tysons. 487 00:24:35,642 --> 00:24:38,945 Finally, on March 6, 1991, a caller spoke 488 00:24:39,045 --> 00:24:41,614 a single sentence in English. 489 00:24:41,714 --> 00:24:44,416 Hello? 490 00:24:44,517 --> 00:24:46,318 Excuse me? 491 00:24:46,418 --> 00:24:49,922 ONEDA DRAWDY: He said just very simple words. 492 00:24:50,022 --> 00:24:52,792 Not, "I'm bringing it home," "I'm bringing him home." 493 00:24:52,892 --> 00:24:55,695 He just said, "I'm bringing them home." 494 00:24:55,795 --> 00:24:56,963 That was it. 495 00:24:57,063 --> 00:24:57,864 Hello? 496 00:24:57,964 --> 00:24:59,165 Hello? 497 00:24:59,265 --> 00:25:00,299 ROBERT STACK: After only a moment, 498 00:25:00,399 --> 00:25:01,901 the connection was broken. 499 00:25:02,001 --> 00:25:04,203 There have been no calls since. 500 00:25:04,303 --> 00:25:06,673 The Neesmiths and the Tysons are convinced that the three 501 00:25:06,773 --> 00:25:09,776 missing men were taken aboard the passing freighter 502 00:25:09,876 --> 00:25:12,344 and perhaps transported to a foreign country 503 00:25:12,444 --> 00:25:15,481 against their will. 504 00:25:15,582 --> 00:25:16,783 I think they're somewhere being held. 505 00:25:16,883 --> 00:25:18,050 I really do. 506 00:25:18,150 --> 00:25:20,352 And I think that whoever called us is putting theirself 507 00:25:20,452 --> 00:25:27,927 on the line because my brother or my nephew or our friend, 508 00:25:28,027 --> 00:25:32,098 one of the three has made a friend, a very dear friend 509 00:25:32,198 --> 00:25:36,903 because this person that's doing this 510 00:25:37,003 --> 00:25:41,340 is probably putting himself on the line to do it. 511 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,275 In my mind, people are lost at sea. 512 00:25:43,375 --> 00:25:44,176 They're never found. 513 00:25:44,276 --> 00:25:45,444 I realize that. 514 00:25:45,544 --> 00:25:48,547 But there's no explanation for where the debris went. 515 00:25:48,648 --> 00:25:50,449 And then the fact that Nathan's seen his ship 516 00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:52,351 stopped the first day-- 517 00:25:52,451 --> 00:25:55,622 you add all those together with the phone calls, 518 00:25:55,722 --> 00:25:59,959 and I think it adds up to a tremendous amount of hope. 519 00:26:00,059 --> 00:26:05,998 In my heart, yes, I feel like they're alive. 520 00:26:06,098 --> 00:26:07,433 I think they had a lot-- 521 00:26:07,533 --> 00:26:11,804 I know they had a lot better chance of surviving than I did. 522 00:26:11,904 --> 00:26:14,506 I don't think that I would've ever made it not knowing 523 00:26:14,607 --> 00:26:15,407 that they couldn't make it. 524 00:26:19,278 --> 00:26:20,713 ROBERT STACK: What really happened to the lost 525 00:26:20,813 --> 00:26:23,115 crewman of the Casie Nicole? 526 00:26:23,215 --> 00:26:24,851 A Coast Guard search was the largest 527 00:26:24,951 --> 00:26:27,553 ever conducted in the area of the Atlantic Ocean 528 00:26:27,654 --> 00:26:31,223 where they disappeared. 529 00:26:31,323 --> 00:26:35,662 Officially, Billy Jo Neesmith, Keith Wilkes, and Franklin 530 00:26:35,762 --> 00:26:37,997 Brantley are presumed dead. 531 00:26:38,097 --> 00:26:40,366 Unofficially, there seems reasonable hope 532 00:26:40,466 --> 00:26:41,834 that they may still be alive. 533 00:26:45,337 --> 00:26:47,907 When we return, one man's poignant search 534 00:26:48,007 --> 00:26:50,576 for his long-lost child who stands to inherit 535 00:26:50,677 --> 00:26:51,978 more than a million dollars. 536 00:27:06,325 --> 00:27:09,161 MARY HELEN: It's our baby, Mac. 537 00:27:09,261 --> 00:27:11,630 Beautiful baby, huh? 538 00:27:11,731 --> 00:27:13,866 It's ours. 539 00:27:13,966 --> 00:27:15,134 ROBERT STACK: For most parents, seeing 540 00:27:15,234 --> 00:27:16,769 their baby for the very first time 541 00:27:16,869 --> 00:27:19,906 is a moment of unrestrained joy. 542 00:27:20,006 --> 00:27:22,775 But for this young father, it was a moment of confusion 543 00:27:22,875 --> 00:27:26,913 and panic that drove him away from the girl he loved 544 00:27:27,013 --> 00:27:30,883 and the child he has not seen since. 545 00:27:30,983 --> 00:27:31,951 Don't go. 546 00:27:32,051 --> 00:27:32,852 Don't-- 547 00:27:36,455 --> 00:27:37,690 ROBERT STACK: Four decades later, 548 00:27:37,790 --> 00:27:41,060 the young man is 63 years old. 549 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,130 WB Mac McDonald is now a wealthy businessman 550 00:27:44,230 --> 00:27:48,835 with a sizable estate, yet he is very much alone. 551 00:27:48,935 --> 00:27:51,003 Mac has never been married. 552 00:27:51,103 --> 00:27:53,405 No one from his immediate family is still alive. 553 00:27:57,043 --> 00:28:00,579 For 30 years, Mac McDonald has been searching for his child, 554 00:28:00,679 --> 00:28:03,215 but has found only frustration. 555 00:28:03,315 --> 00:28:06,953 Those lost years are the one thing his money cannot buy. 556 00:28:07,053 --> 00:28:11,023 Mac's story begins in 1948 in Pomona, California, when 557 00:28:11,123 --> 00:28:13,059 he fell madly, perhaps tragically, 558 00:28:13,159 --> 00:28:15,394 in love with a girl next door. 559 00:28:15,494 --> 00:28:17,629 Her name was Mary Helen Carr. 560 00:28:17,730 --> 00:28:19,665 She was just 16 years old. 561 00:28:27,506 --> 00:28:30,276 MAC MCDONALD: The first time that I noticed my neighbor she 562 00:28:30,376 --> 00:28:35,748 was in the swing on her front porch she was 563 00:28:35,848 --> 00:28:40,419 in a pair of white slacks and a light-colored blouse 564 00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:44,290 and very pleasing to look at. 565 00:28:44,390 --> 00:28:45,858 While she was there on the swing, 566 00:28:45,958 --> 00:28:51,931 there was a definite attraction both ways. 567 00:28:52,031 --> 00:28:56,468 However, I guess I was a little shy at that time. 568 00:28:56,568 --> 00:28:58,270 I didn't speak to her at that time. 569 00:28:58,370 --> 00:29:02,875 It was several months before I finally began to speak to her. 570 00:29:02,975 --> 00:29:04,210 Nice bike. 571 00:29:04,310 --> 00:29:05,111 Yeah. 572 00:29:05,211 --> 00:29:06,245 I like to keep it clean. 573 00:29:06,345 --> 00:29:08,414 My name's Mac. 574 00:29:08,514 --> 00:29:09,515 Mary Helen. 575 00:29:09,615 --> 00:29:11,317 Nice to meet you. 576 00:29:11,417 --> 00:29:13,853 I've seen you before. 577 00:29:13,953 --> 00:29:17,056 Uh, I'm just cleaning my bike. 578 00:29:17,156 --> 00:29:19,892 Would you like to go for a ride sometime? 579 00:29:19,992 --> 00:29:24,296 My mother would forbid me to ride that, especially with you. 580 00:29:24,396 --> 00:29:25,497 Is your mother always here? 581 00:29:30,536 --> 00:29:32,038 ROBERT STACK: The romance progressed slowly 582 00:29:32,138 --> 00:29:33,305 and discreetly. 583 00:29:33,405 --> 00:29:35,441 Mary Helen's mother was distrustful 584 00:29:35,541 --> 00:29:37,343 of Mac's intentions. 585 00:29:37,443 --> 00:29:39,511 Still, the two young lovers saw each other 586 00:29:39,611 --> 00:29:43,850 at every available opportunity, until the inevitable day 587 00:29:43,950 --> 00:29:46,618 came when Mary Helen's mother caught them together. 588 00:29:51,023 --> 00:29:54,793 We were planning on a future together 589 00:29:54,894 --> 00:29:58,430 and here were these tremendous stumbling blocks 590 00:29:58,530 --> 00:29:59,798 being thrown out into the path. 591 00:30:04,036 --> 00:30:06,305 ROBERT STACK: Mac felt he had no choice but to pack his bags 592 00:30:06,405 --> 00:30:07,773 and leave. 593 00:30:07,874 --> 00:30:12,278 His destination, the oil fields of Texas. 594 00:30:12,378 --> 00:30:13,412 I'm sorry. 595 00:30:13,512 --> 00:30:15,848 MAC MCDONALD: I was very much in love with her. 596 00:30:15,948 --> 00:30:21,587 My whole life was revolving around her at that time. 597 00:30:21,687 --> 00:30:25,557 But with the disturbance that I was causing her at home, 598 00:30:25,657 --> 00:30:27,559 I thought, well, I'll get away a while 599 00:30:27,659 --> 00:30:29,996 and maybe it'll solve some of these problems. 600 00:30:30,096 --> 00:30:33,933 We can be sure that what we were feeling for each other 601 00:30:34,033 --> 00:30:36,668 is going to last the rest of our lives. 602 00:30:40,406 --> 00:30:43,175 We both agreed that this was the best thing to do, 603 00:30:43,275 --> 00:30:44,977 but it didn't make it any easier. 604 00:30:47,779 --> 00:30:49,648 I went directly to Houston. 605 00:30:49,748 --> 00:30:51,517 The only time I stopped on that trip 606 00:30:51,617 --> 00:30:57,289 was just for gas because I left part of me in Pomona. 607 00:30:57,389 --> 00:31:01,527 And it didn't get any easier the more miles I got away from her. 608 00:31:04,196 --> 00:31:05,564 ROBERT STACK: Three weeks later, Mac had 609 00:31:05,664 --> 00:31:07,633 established himself in Houston. 610 00:31:07,733 --> 00:31:09,902 He had no idea that Mary Helen had 611 00:31:10,002 --> 00:31:13,339 run away from home to join him. 612 00:31:13,439 --> 00:31:15,541 MAC MCDONALD: Mary Helen called me from the bus station 613 00:31:15,641 --> 00:31:20,046 there in Houston and she says, I'm here for good. 614 00:31:20,146 --> 00:31:22,848 And I told her, I'll be right there. 615 00:31:26,118 --> 00:31:28,720 And I tore the streets up getting 616 00:31:28,820 --> 00:31:30,056 down to the bus station. 617 00:31:30,156 --> 00:31:33,825 It was a very happy reunion. 618 00:31:33,926 --> 00:31:35,427 Here we are. 619 00:31:35,527 --> 00:31:37,596 ROBERT STACK: The next day, Mac and Mary Helen, 620 00:31:37,696 --> 00:31:40,166 posing as husband and wife, found an apartment 621 00:31:40,266 --> 00:31:42,434 and began planning for the rest of their lives. 622 00:31:42,534 --> 00:31:43,435 We're here for the apartment. 623 00:31:43,535 --> 00:31:44,670 You called. 624 00:31:44,770 --> 00:31:46,872 ROBERT STACK: Their troubles seemed far behind them. 625 00:31:46,973 --> 00:31:48,007 You just got married, right? 626 00:31:48,107 --> 00:31:48,907 Yeah. 627 00:31:49,008 --> 00:31:50,242 Well, congratulations. 628 00:31:50,342 --> 00:31:51,177 Thank you. 629 00:31:51,277 --> 00:31:52,078 Well, it's right here. 630 00:31:52,178 --> 00:31:55,181 Let me show you. 631 00:31:55,281 --> 00:31:57,083 MAC MCDONALD: It was happiness itself. 632 00:31:57,183 --> 00:32:00,686 It was the ultimate dream. 633 00:32:00,786 --> 00:32:04,356 The feeling that she gave you-- she was beautiful to look at. 634 00:32:04,456 --> 00:32:06,358 She was beautiful to talk to. 635 00:32:06,458 --> 00:32:12,064 And she gave you the incentive to tear the world up. 636 00:32:12,164 --> 00:32:13,499 - I met a new neighbor. - You did? 637 00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:14,466 - Yeah. - Are they nice? 638 00:32:14,566 --> 00:32:16,868 Yeah, real nice. 639 00:32:16,969 --> 00:32:19,571 ROBERT STACK: One month later, Mac and Mary Helen's world 640 00:32:19,671 --> 00:32:20,639 would collapse again. 641 00:32:20,739 --> 00:32:22,008 It's very good. 642 00:32:22,108 --> 00:32:23,875 [phone ringing] 643 00:32:25,811 --> 00:32:27,113 Hello? 644 00:32:27,213 --> 00:32:28,947 Just a minute. 645 00:32:29,048 --> 00:32:30,983 ROBERT STACK: A friend tipped Mac off that the police were 646 00:32:31,083 --> 00:32:32,518 on their way to the apartment. 647 00:32:32,618 --> 00:32:33,452 Hello? 648 00:32:33,552 --> 00:32:34,486 ROBERT STACK: Mary Helen's mother 649 00:32:34,586 --> 00:32:36,622 had made good on her threats. 650 00:32:36,722 --> 00:32:38,657 The authorities carried warrants charging 651 00:32:38,757 --> 00:32:42,261 Mac with statutory rape and illegally living with a minor. 652 00:32:42,361 --> 00:32:44,063 Right now? 653 00:32:44,163 --> 00:32:45,497 I'm so sorry. 654 00:32:45,597 --> 00:32:46,932 I don't know how she found out. 655 00:32:47,033 --> 00:32:48,134 It's not your fault. 656 00:32:48,234 --> 00:32:49,635 She must've talked to your mother or something. 657 00:32:49,735 --> 00:32:50,536 It's OK. 658 00:32:50,636 --> 00:32:51,670 It's not your fault. 659 00:32:51,770 --> 00:32:53,372 - I don't know how she found me. - That's fine. 660 00:32:53,472 --> 00:32:54,273 That's fine. 661 00:32:54,373 --> 00:32:56,442 I'll call you. 662 00:32:56,542 --> 00:32:58,910 ROBERT STACK: Mac made his escape with no time to spare. 663 00:33:09,121 --> 00:33:11,690 MAC MCDONALD: I left Texas, and it was in the afternoon. 664 00:33:11,790 --> 00:33:13,659 It seemed like afternoons is when all 665 00:33:13,759 --> 00:33:16,828 these departures took place. 666 00:33:16,928 --> 00:33:19,131 And I didn't stop till I was out of the state of Texas. 667 00:33:23,001 --> 00:33:25,704 I was devastated again. 668 00:33:25,804 --> 00:33:30,076 They jerked her back to California 669 00:33:30,176 --> 00:33:32,678 and I had no way of contacting her again. 670 00:33:41,387 --> 00:33:43,655 ROBERT STACK: A year passed. 671 00:33:43,755 --> 00:33:47,359 Mac returned to California to take a new job. 672 00:33:47,459 --> 00:33:49,328 One evening, he and a friend stopped off 673 00:33:49,428 --> 00:33:52,698 at a drive-in in Long Beach. 674 00:33:52,798 --> 00:33:55,467 Mac? 675 00:33:55,567 --> 00:33:57,203 Mary? 676 00:33:57,303 --> 00:33:59,705 MAC MCDONALD: I almost fell out of the car. 677 00:33:59,805 --> 00:34:03,142 The waitress-- the carhop that came to wait on us 678 00:34:03,242 --> 00:34:05,777 was Mary Helen. 679 00:34:05,877 --> 00:34:07,313 Los Angeles is a big city. 680 00:34:07,413 --> 00:34:09,481 It was a big city then. 681 00:34:09,581 --> 00:34:12,351 And the possibilities of driving into a restaurant 682 00:34:12,451 --> 00:34:16,288 and having her the waitress was like hitting 683 00:34:16,388 --> 00:34:18,490 a keno ticket here in Reno. 684 00:34:18,590 --> 00:34:20,859 Well, listen, I can't really talk to you, 685 00:34:20,959 --> 00:34:22,494 but I get off work at 9:00. 686 00:34:22,594 --> 00:34:24,096 Do you want to come by my apartment? 687 00:34:24,196 --> 00:34:24,996 Yeah. 688 00:34:27,366 --> 00:34:30,202 Here's my address. 689 00:34:30,302 --> 00:34:32,171 Great. 690 00:34:32,271 --> 00:34:36,108 You can see our baby. 691 00:34:36,208 --> 00:34:37,109 I have a baby? 692 00:34:42,114 --> 00:34:43,815 MAC MCDONALD: I almost had heart failure. 693 00:34:43,915 --> 00:34:47,719 It took my breath away because I had no idea she was pregnant. 694 00:34:47,819 --> 00:34:51,623 There was that possibility, though. 695 00:34:51,723 --> 00:34:53,192 So I told her I'll be right over. 696 00:35:05,704 --> 00:35:06,572 When I-- 697 00:35:06,672 --> 00:35:09,074 Mac. 698 00:35:09,175 --> 00:35:11,076 Come on in. 699 00:35:11,177 --> 00:35:12,744 MAC MCDONALD: --with this baby in her arms. 700 00:35:12,844 --> 00:35:13,645 Come in. 701 00:35:13,745 --> 00:35:15,514 Look. 702 00:35:15,614 --> 00:35:17,583 MAC MCDONALD: I thought, well, the police department 703 00:35:17,683 --> 00:35:19,685 is probably on premises. 704 00:35:19,785 --> 00:35:21,052 Honey? 705 00:35:21,153 --> 00:35:22,488 MAC MCDONALD: This is just a matter of time 706 00:35:22,588 --> 00:35:25,791 till I'm going to be shackled and in jail over this. 707 00:35:25,891 --> 00:35:27,893 I'm so glad to see you. 708 00:35:27,993 --> 00:35:30,496 MAC MCDONALD: I was so distraught 709 00:35:30,596 --> 00:35:34,933 when her mother opened the door that I overlooked the fact 710 00:35:35,033 --> 00:35:37,102 that she was about half-civilized-- the first time 711 00:35:37,203 --> 00:35:40,406 she'd ever spoke to me civilly. 712 00:35:40,506 --> 00:35:43,875 I was in such a traumatic state of fear, 713 00:35:43,975 --> 00:35:46,111 the benefit of being able to hold 714 00:35:46,212 --> 00:35:49,080 your baby for the first time, I missed 715 00:35:49,181 --> 00:35:51,817 that because all I could think of is either the law 716 00:35:51,917 --> 00:35:54,420 is in the bedroom or they're on the way. 717 00:35:57,356 --> 00:35:59,858 ROBERT STACK: Mac was terrified that Mary Helen's mother still 718 00:35:59,958 --> 00:36:03,395 had a warrant out for his arrest. 719 00:36:03,495 --> 00:36:07,098 In California, statutory rape was punishable by up to 30 720 00:36:07,199 --> 00:36:09,768 years in prison. 721 00:36:09,868 --> 00:36:13,305 Mac McDonald stayed for less than five minutes. 722 00:36:13,405 --> 00:36:17,843 He never even learned if the baby was a boy or a girl. 723 00:36:17,943 --> 00:36:21,247 MAC MCDONALD: I feel that I made the greatest mistake of my life 724 00:36:21,347 --> 00:36:26,017 by not staying there and riding it out. 725 00:36:26,117 --> 00:36:28,787 I don't think there was-- 726 00:36:28,887 --> 00:36:33,158 probably-- well, it's been 40 years? 727 00:36:33,259 --> 00:36:34,326 That's what it's cost me. 728 00:36:37,128 --> 00:36:43,168 I feel that the youngster is entitled to my estate. 729 00:36:43,269 --> 00:36:47,606 I'm not entitled to be its father, probably, 730 00:36:47,706 --> 00:36:51,877 but I would want that youngster to know that, 731 00:36:51,977 --> 00:36:55,981 even with the mistakes, that I love him and I want 732 00:36:56,081 --> 00:36:56,882 him to have the best. 733 00:37:00,252 --> 00:37:02,854 The night of our broadcast, Mac McDonald 734 00:37:02,954 --> 00:37:05,624 learned that he had a daughter named Sherry. 735 00:37:05,724 --> 00:37:08,594 The long-awaited news came from a viewer in Dallas, Texas-- 736 00:37:08,694 --> 00:37:11,697 Mary Helen Carr, Sherry's mother. 737 00:37:11,797 --> 00:37:14,065 Unlike many of the reunions we have feature, 738 00:37:14,165 --> 00:37:17,102 the end of this search evoked decidedly mixed emotions 739 00:37:17,202 --> 00:37:20,472 for Mac, for Mary Helen, and especially for their daughter, 740 00:37:20,572 --> 00:37:24,876 Sherry, who'd been raised by a loving and caring stepfather. 741 00:37:24,976 --> 00:37:27,713 I'm 43 years old and pretty well 742 00:37:27,813 --> 00:37:29,581 set in my life and everything. 743 00:37:29,681 --> 00:37:31,417 And I didn't know what to think. 744 00:37:31,517 --> 00:37:34,720 I'm very happily married and have two great kids 745 00:37:34,820 --> 00:37:38,724 and we just are a normal, American family. 746 00:37:38,824 --> 00:37:43,829 And this is quite a shock to everyone. 747 00:37:43,929 --> 00:37:45,764 ROBERT STACK: One week after our broadcast, 748 00:37:45,864 --> 00:37:49,801 Mac McDonald arrived at Sherry's home in Denver, Colorado. 749 00:37:49,901 --> 00:37:53,204 For Mac, the reunion would bring a bittersweet, and at times 750 00:37:53,305 --> 00:37:55,607 unsettling, reconciliation with the past. 751 00:37:59,445 --> 00:38:00,245 Hello. 752 00:38:00,346 --> 00:38:01,713 Hi. 753 00:38:01,813 --> 00:38:02,681 Come on in. 754 00:38:02,781 --> 00:38:04,182 [inaudible] right place? 755 00:38:04,282 --> 00:38:05,083 Yes. 756 00:38:05,183 --> 00:38:06,051 Hi, Mac. 757 00:38:11,490 --> 00:38:15,026 MAC MCDONALD: It's hard to describe the feeling that I had 758 00:38:15,126 --> 00:38:18,330 for my daughter when I opened the door and she was there 759 00:38:18,430 --> 00:38:20,999 and I was able to hold her. 760 00:38:21,099 --> 00:38:22,501 - Sit down. - I don't want to sit down. 761 00:38:22,601 --> 00:38:23,402 I want to hold you. 762 00:38:27,873 --> 00:38:31,276 SHERRY BLACKMAN: I just try to come to the realization 763 00:38:31,377 --> 00:38:33,345 that it really was my father standing there 764 00:38:33,445 --> 00:38:37,649 and I just wanted to see, does he took like me? 765 00:38:37,749 --> 00:38:38,850 Does he act like me? 766 00:38:38,950 --> 00:38:41,920 I have all these things I need to learn about him. 767 00:38:42,020 --> 00:38:43,188 I don't know what to say. 768 00:38:43,288 --> 00:38:44,490 I'm still in a state of shock. 769 00:38:44,590 --> 00:38:45,891 SHERRY BLACKMAN: At this point in my life, 770 00:38:45,991 --> 00:38:47,926 to find that there is someone who is my father 771 00:38:48,026 --> 00:38:50,529 and who wants to establish a relationship with me, 772 00:38:50,629 --> 00:38:53,899 is just emotionally very traumatic. 773 00:38:53,999 --> 00:38:55,834 Apparently, he wants to be part of her life. 774 00:39:00,338 --> 00:39:03,409 And if that's the case, that's OK. 775 00:39:03,509 --> 00:39:05,844 I hope, since he's gone to this much effort to find her, 776 00:39:05,944 --> 00:39:10,248 that he doesn't bring any sorrow to her. 777 00:39:10,348 --> 00:39:12,117 MAC MCDONALD: The fact that I didn't 778 00:39:12,217 --> 00:39:16,488 stay and fight the battle, it's most unfortunate. 779 00:39:16,588 --> 00:39:19,458 I don't believe I would do it that way again. 780 00:39:19,558 --> 00:39:24,563 However, yesterday, unfortunately can't be redone. 781 00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:29,300 I'd like to. 782 00:39:32,971 --> 00:39:34,372 No matter how you look at it, he 783 00:39:34,473 --> 00:39:39,945 left my mother with a tiny baby, and I have to deal with that. 784 00:39:40,045 --> 00:39:41,246 I have to deal with the fact that I 785 00:39:41,346 --> 00:39:44,550 have a father who loves for me, who has raised me, 786 00:39:44,650 --> 00:39:45,951 who's cared for me. 787 00:39:46,051 --> 00:39:48,319 But I believe there's enough room 788 00:39:48,420 --> 00:39:52,424 in this family for everyone, and I sincerely mean that. 789 00:39:56,462 --> 00:39:59,030 ROBERT STACK: Next, an ex-cop, masquerading 790 00:39:59,130 --> 00:40:01,700 as a movie producer, is wanted on charges of rape. 791 00:40:13,979 --> 00:40:16,081 Every year, more than 20 million tourists 792 00:40:16,181 --> 00:40:18,717 descend upon Las Vegas, Nevada, the gambling 793 00:40:18,817 --> 00:40:21,152 capital of the world. 794 00:40:21,252 --> 00:40:23,154 Most come for only one reason-- 795 00:40:23,254 --> 00:40:26,357 to spend and win money. 796 00:40:26,458 --> 00:40:28,494 It's no wonder that Vegas is also 797 00:40:28,594 --> 00:40:30,361 a mecca for every kind of hustler 798 00:40:30,462 --> 00:40:32,731 and con artist imaginable. 799 00:40:32,831 --> 00:40:33,865 Yes. 800 00:40:33,965 --> 00:40:35,133 Well, I talked to two of the guys yesterday, 801 00:40:35,233 --> 00:40:37,503 and they seemed to be excited about this whole thing, 802 00:40:37,603 --> 00:40:38,770 and so-- 803 00:40:38,870 --> 00:40:41,439 ROBERT STACK: In May of 1988, a self-styled star-maker 804 00:40:41,540 --> 00:40:44,943 named Maxwell Carson arrived in Las Vegas. 805 00:40:45,043 --> 00:40:47,746 Carson was a smooth talker who dabbled in anything 806 00:40:47,846 --> 00:40:50,716 that might make money. 807 00:40:50,816 --> 00:40:52,618 Carson owned and operated a sports 808 00:40:52,718 --> 00:40:54,653 betting business, a fledgling film 809 00:40:54,753 --> 00:40:58,757 company, and a modeling agency. 810 00:40:58,857 --> 00:41:01,426 But Max Carson was a man with a dark past. 811 00:41:01,527 --> 00:41:03,562 He was an ex-cop gone bad, whose real 812 00:41:03,662 --> 00:41:06,231 name was William John Wood. 813 00:41:06,331 --> 00:41:10,301 In 1972, Wood resigned from the Toledo, Ohio police force while 814 00:41:10,401 --> 00:41:13,338 under investigation for misconduct. 815 00:41:13,438 --> 00:41:17,308 Between 1977 and 1985, Wood served time 816 00:41:17,408 --> 00:41:20,345 for a number of offenses, from passing bad checks, 817 00:41:20,445 --> 00:41:23,214 to impersonating a federal officer, to assault with intent 818 00:41:23,314 --> 00:41:24,115 to rape. 819 00:41:29,254 --> 00:41:32,791 In 1986, William John Wood moved to Las Vegas 820 00:41:32,891 --> 00:41:34,526 and became Max Carson. 821 00:41:37,696 --> 00:41:39,731 BOB SCOTT: Max was absolutely obsessed 822 00:41:39,831 --> 00:41:41,967 with good-looking women. 823 00:41:42,067 --> 00:41:45,170 He would, especially with actresses, models, 824 00:41:45,270 --> 00:41:48,106 any good-looking women, use the movie industry 825 00:41:48,206 --> 00:41:51,409 or use his clout as, quote, unquote, 826 00:41:51,509 --> 00:41:58,650 "a movie producer to be," could get them whatever they wanted. 827 00:41:58,750 --> 00:41:59,585 - Tiffany? - Yeah. 828 00:41:59,685 --> 00:42:00,485 Hi. 829 00:42:00,586 --> 00:42:03,755 Mr. Carson will see you now. 830 00:42:03,855 --> 00:42:05,591 ROBERT STACK: In November of 1989, 831 00:42:05,691 --> 00:42:09,194 Carson began holding auditions for an upcoming film. 832 00:42:09,294 --> 00:42:12,731 One striking 19-year-old model caught his eye. 833 00:42:12,831 --> 00:42:14,465 We will call her Tiffany. 834 00:42:14,566 --> 00:42:15,433 Hi. How are you? 835 00:42:15,533 --> 00:42:16,334 Hi. 836 00:42:16,434 --> 00:42:17,235 Great, thank you. 837 00:42:17,335 --> 00:42:18,804 Have a seat. 838 00:42:18,904 --> 00:42:20,405 You're-- - I'm Tiffany. 839 00:42:20,505 --> 00:42:21,306 Tiffany. 840 00:42:21,406 --> 00:42:22,207 TIFFANY: I went in. 841 00:42:22,307 --> 00:42:23,709 I talked to him. 842 00:42:23,809 --> 00:42:27,445 And he told me a little bit about what the movie was about 843 00:42:27,545 --> 00:42:30,081 and what I would be doing. 844 00:42:30,181 --> 00:42:31,449 I think there's a role in here for you. 845 00:42:31,549 --> 00:42:32,517 Of course, it's a speaking part. 846 00:42:32,618 --> 00:42:33,484 Oh! 847 00:42:33,585 --> 00:42:35,220 That'd be wonderful. 848 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,055 TIFFANY: He had started talking about money, 849 00:42:37,155 --> 00:42:40,325 and I felt strange that he would offer a large amount of money 850 00:42:40,425 --> 00:42:42,293 to someone in my position that's never 851 00:42:42,393 --> 00:42:44,930 really had any acting before. 852 00:42:45,030 --> 00:42:46,497 So I talked to a couple of agents. 853 00:42:46,598 --> 00:42:49,300 And they'd all heard of him. 854 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,169 They had done their homework on him 855 00:42:51,269 --> 00:42:52,871 and found that there was nothing wrong with him. 856 00:42:52,971 --> 00:42:53,972 Super. 857 00:42:54,072 --> 00:42:55,506 Well, we've got your address and phone number 858 00:42:55,607 --> 00:42:56,608 and how to get in touch with you. 859 00:42:56,708 --> 00:42:58,209 And I appreciate you coming in. 860 00:42:58,309 --> 00:42:59,811 ROBERT STACK: Tiffany had several other meetings 861 00:42:59,911 --> 00:43:03,014 with Carson, but the movie never got off the ground. 862 00:43:03,114 --> 00:43:07,052 Max Carson's empire was on the verge of collapse. 863 00:43:07,152 --> 00:43:09,154 We have employees that haven't been paid. 864 00:43:09,254 --> 00:43:11,489 Now, Bob, just relax. 865 00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:12,858 Have faith. 866 00:43:12,958 --> 00:43:14,760 We've been through so much together. 867 00:43:14,860 --> 00:43:16,527 ROBERT STACK: By January of 1990, 868 00:43:16,628 --> 00:43:18,730 Max Carson would shut down his offices. 869 00:43:18,830 --> 00:43:20,666 Yet he would maintain the illusion that he 870 00:43:20,766 --> 00:43:23,134 was still in full operation. 871 00:43:23,234 --> 00:43:24,035 Hello. 872 00:43:24,135 --> 00:43:25,971 I'd like to speak to Tiffany. 873 00:43:26,071 --> 00:43:27,739 ROBERT STACK: In February, he called Tiffany 874 00:43:27,839 --> 00:43:29,374 and hired her as a last-minute replacement 875 00:43:29,474 --> 00:43:31,109 model for a photo shoot. 876 00:43:31,209 --> 00:43:32,177 --problem down here. 877 00:43:32,277 --> 00:43:34,680 We had a photo session this afternoon and-- 878 00:43:34,780 --> 00:43:36,815 ROBERT STACK: Carson arranged to meet her later that day 879 00:43:36,915 --> 00:43:39,584 at a restaurant on the strip. 880 00:43:39,685 --> 00:43:40,485 Max? 881 00:43:40,585 --> 00:43:41,519 Oh, hi. 882 00:43:41,619 --> 00:43:42,420 Hi. 883 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:43,521 We're all set up. 884 00:43:43,621 --> 00:43:45,090 We got two rooms set up, one for wardrobe-- 885 00:43:45,190 --> 00:43:47,693 TIFFANY: I had met him in front of the coffee shop 886 00:43:47,793 --> 00:43:54,065 and he said that we needed to go to the motel there, 887 00:43:54,165 --> 00:43:57,235 where they had set up a dressing room for me. 888 00:43:57,335 --> 00:43:58,336 Oh. 889 00:43:58,436 --> 00:43:59,738 Here's the limousine we're gonna be using. 890 00:43:59,838 --> 00:44:01,506 And-- oh, I wanna thank you very much for coming 891 00:44:01,606 --> 00:44:02,774 here on short notice. 892 00:44:02,874 --> 00:44:04,876 This shoot should be probably about two hours. 893 00:44:04,976 --> 00:44:05,844 You'll be done in-- 894 00:44:05,944 --> 00:44:07,612 those dresses are just fine. 895 00:44:07,713 --> 00:44:09,981 TIFFANY: I started to feel a little 896 00:44:10,081 --> 00:44:12,851 uncomfortable just because there was no one around. 897 00:44:12,951 --> 00:44:14,085 Tiffany, why don't you just go over 898 00:44:14,185 --> 00:44:16,487 there and fill out those forms and I'll make a call. 899 00:44:16,587 --> 00:44:19,157 TIFFANY: So I'd left the door open with my bag 900 00:44:19,257 --> 00:44:21,559 sitting between the room and the door 901 00:44:21,659 --> 00:44:23,161 so that it would make it a little bit 902 00:44:23,261 --> 00:44:25,296 difficult to get the door shut. 903 00:44:25,396 --> 00:44:26,197 This 904 00:44:26,297 --> 00:44:27,498 Is Max Carson. 905 00:44:27,598 --> 00:44:30,335 Listen, I'm expecting somebody in very shortly and-- 906 00:44:30,435 --> 00:44:34,539 TIFFANY: Supposedly, he was calling the makeup artist 907 00:44:34,639 --> 00:44:37,108 and the photographer to let them know 908 00:44:37,208 --> 00:44:38,910 that we're here and waiting. 909 00:44:39,010 --> 00:44:40,278 Yes. OK. 910 00:44:40,378 --> 00:44:41,279 Well, I appreciate that. 911 00:44:41,379 --> 00:44:42,513 Thank you very much. 912 00:44:42,613 --> 00:44:44,015 TIFFANY: And about that time, he had 913 00:44:44,115 --> 00:44:47,185 asked me if I would give him a hug, 914 00:44:47,285 --> 00:44:50,521 and I knew that I was in trouble. 915 00:44:50,621 --> 00:44:53,391 Max, I don't feel very comfortable, OK? 916 00:44:53,491 --> 00:44:55,160 Um, I'm not gonna do the sh-- 917 00:44:55,260 --> 00:44:56,862 What do you mean you don't feel very comfortable? 918 00:44:56,962 --> 00:44:58,797 Let's just forget about the whole thing. 919 00:44:58,897 --> 00:45:00,531 Max! 920 00:45:00,631 --> 00:45:01,699 You're not going anywhere. 921 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,068 Max, please-- 922 00:45:03,168 --> 00:45:04,302 Don't make a sound. 923 00:45:04,402 --> 00:45:05,470 Do what I say and I won't hurt you. 924 00:45:11,542 --> 00:45:15,646 I thought at that point that I was going to die. 925 00:45:15,747 --> 00:45:17,015 I thought I was going to be extremely 926 00:45:17,115 --> 00:45:20,318 lucky if I walked out. 927 00:45:20,418 --> 00:45:25,857 I tried very hard to cooperate, hoping that that would keep 928 00:45:25,957 --> 00:45:29,094 him from becoming more violent. 929 00:45:29,194 --> 00:45:30,028 This was scary. 930 00:45:33,698 --> 00:45:36,234 ROBERT STACK: Later that day, Tiffany called the police, 931 00:45:36,334 --> 00:45:37,635 even though Carson had threatened 932 00:45:37,735 --> 00:45:39,470 that he would accuse her of prostitution 933 00:45:39,570 --> 00:45:41,907 if she told anyone. 934 00:45:42,007 --> 00:45:44,175 Max Carson was charged with kidnapping, 935 00:45:44,275 --> 00:45:46,144 sexual assault, and battery. 936 00:45:46,244 --> 00:45:48,146 But by then, he had disappeared. 937 00:45:50,782 --> 00:45:53,351 Two months later and 3,000 miles away, 938 00:45:53,451 --> 00:45:56,321 Max Carson surfaced in Cocoa Beach, Florida. 939 00:45:56,421 --> 00:46:01,259 Once again, he tried to work a scam on a beautiful woman. 940 00:46:01,359 --> 00:46:02,193 Hi. 941 00:46:02,293 --> 00:46:03,528 I hope I didn't keep you waiting. 942 00:46:03,628 --> 00:46:04,429 No. 943 00:46:04,529 --> 00:46:05,630 I just got here. 944 00:46:05,730 --> 00:46:06,764 Well, I've been here before. 945 00:46:06,865 --> 00:46:09,067 Why don't we go upstairs in the lounge. 946 00:46:09,167 --> 00:46:10,535 How about downstairs? I just want you-- 947 00:46:10,635 --> 00:46:11,903 ROBERT STACK: Carson and the woman 948 00:46:12,003 --> 00:46:15,140 had arranged to meet in the lobby of a Cocoa Beach hotel. 949 00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:17,308 Carson wanted to continue their conversation 950 00:46:17,408 --> 00:46:19,444 in a private room upstairs. 951 00:46:19,544 --> 00:46:22,780 He had convinced the woman to accept money for sex. 952 00:46:22,881 --> 00:46:23,849 --get something upstairs. 953 00:46:23,949 --> 00:46:24,816 Hold it right there. 954 00:46:24,916 --> 00:46:25,851 Cocoa Beach Police. 955 00:46:25,951 --> 00:46:27,352 You're under arrest for solicitation. 956 00:46:30,255 --> 00:46:33,058 ROBERT STACK: Max Carson had walked into a clever trap. 957 00:46:33,158 --> 00:46:35,060 The woman was wearing a concealed wire 958 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,495 as part of a sting operation. 959 00:46:37,595 --> 00:46:41,432 Carson pleaded guilty to solicitation of prostitution. 960 00:46:41,532 --> 00:46:44,502 At the time, police in Florida had no idea that he 961 00:46:44,602 --> 00:46:46,071 was wanted in Las Vegas. 962 00:46:46,171 --> 00:46:47,906 Take this guy downtown. 963 00:46:48,006 --> 00:46:49,674 ROBERT STACK: Two days later, Max Carson 964 00:46:49,774 --> 00:46:53,678 was released from jail and disappeared once again. 965 00:46:53,778 --> 00:46:57,515 Only then did police finally discover his true identity. 966 00:47:00,285 --> 00:47:02,520 William John Wood was last seen in Reno, Nevada 967 00:47:02,620 --> 00:47:06,791 in March of 1991 still using the name Max Carson. 968 00:47:06,892 --> 00:47:08,593 He tried to run one of his scams on a model 969 00:47:08,693 --> 00:47:10,495 he had known in Las Vegas. 970 00:47:10,595 --> 00:47:13,965 When she confronted him with his past, he disappeared. 971 00:47:14,065 --> 00:47:16,034 Authorities believe he may be operating anywhere 972 00:47:16,134 --> 00:47:18,636 in the country, though he seems to prefer Florida, 973 00:47:18,736 --> 00:47:21,006 Nevada, or Southern California. 974 00:47:21,106 --> 00:47:23,374 They are certain that he is still masquerading as a film 975 00:47:23,474 --> 00:47:25,843 producer or talent agent. 976 00:47:25,944 --> 00:47:27,812 [music playing] 977 00:47:46,764 --> 00:47:48,967 Join me next time for another edition 978 00:47:49,067 --> 00:47:51,436 of "Unsolved Mysteries". 979 00:47:51,536 --> 00:47:55,073 [music playing] 74521

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