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This program is about
unsolved mysteries.
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Whenever possible, the
actual family members
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and police officials
have participated
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in recreating the events.
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What you are about to see
is not a news broadcast
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The breathtaking beauty
of Canada's Yukon Territory
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has captivated travelers
for generations.
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But when Philip Fraser
of Anchorage, Alaska
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picked up a lone hitchhiker,
the wilderness became
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the gateway to a nightmare.
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In 1990, four men were cast
adrift when their fishing boat
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sunk off the coast of Georgia.
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After an incredible four
day ordeal, one of them
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was rescued.
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As for the other three, a
series of strange phone calls
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suggests that they are being
held against their will
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in a foreign country.
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When he was 20, Mack
McDonald fell madly
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in love with a girl next door.
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A year later, Mack met his child
for the first and last time.
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Now that child could inherit
Mack's estate, estimated
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at more than $1 million.
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Free-wheeling Las Vegas
was a perfect locale
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for Max Carson, a fast-talking,
self-styled film producer.
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In reality, Carson was
a hustler and ex-cop
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named William John Wood.
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He is now wanted for rape.
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Join me for these
intriguing new stories.
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Perhaps you may be able
to help solve a mystery.
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[music playing]
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Alaska, America's last frontier.
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Highway 1 is its lifeline,
a thin asphalt ribbon which
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cuts through Canada's
Yukon Territory
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to connect Alaska to the
continental United States.
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On June 14, 1988,
25-year-old Phillip Fraser,
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the son of two physicians,
left his home in Anchorage
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to enroll in a pre-med
course at Evergreen
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College in Washington state.
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Philip had packed up everything
he owned for the trip,
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including two handguns.
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On June 17, after losing
two days to car trouble,
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Philip crossed the
border into Canada.
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- Hi, where are you coming from?
- Alaska.
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Alaska.
Where are you headed?
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Washington.
I'm a student.
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You're going to
school down there, then?
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Yeah.
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Anything on board, any
goods that you purchased
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that you're bringing across?
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Um, just my books and
things like that for school.
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At Beaver Creek,
Philip was entering
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into Canada from Alaska
into our Yukon Territory.
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And Philip did declare that he'd
had two firearms of his own.
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And at that point, our
Canada customs people
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seized the firearms from him,
as it is illegal for Americans
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to enter Canada with
any kind of a firearm.
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After a one hour delay,
Phillip Fraser was on his way.
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His guns became the property
of the Canadian government.
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The next day, 600 miles south
of the border checkpoint,
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a hitchhiker was dropped
off at the 40 Mile Flat
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Cafe, owned by Gay Frocklage.
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Gay and her daughter,
Tina, were on duty.
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The individual
that dropped him off
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didn't come into the cafe,
just dropped him off and left.
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And just looking at
him through the window,
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it was something wrong.
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He didn't-- there was
something wrong with him,
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you know, in appearance
wasn't comfortable.
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And I said to Tina,
we've got a winner here.
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There's something
wrong with this guy.
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I remember saying
to mom, you know
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maybe he escaped from
a mental institution,
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because he was so strange.
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I think we got a problem here.
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Yeah.
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Are you going to stick around?
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Yeah, I think I better
best not leave you alone.
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I wouldn't leave all
alone in the building
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with him, as there was nobody
else there at the time.
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And so I said to Tina, well, you
go ahead and take care of him
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and I'll just hang around.
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As I passed the side window, I
seen a small black car pull up,
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right to the side of the cafe.
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And the young man in the car
didn't get out of the car
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but proceeded to act
like he was searching
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his car, like he had misplaced
something that he needed.
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During this time was when
another vehicle pulled up
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to the service station.
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Yeah, Tina, there's
a car at the pumps.
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Do you want to serve him gas,
and I'll just stay in here.
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OK, sure.
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Tina Frocklage went
to the parking lot
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to pump gas for
another customer.
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She and Phillip Fraser
exchanged hellos.
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Is that everything?
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Yeah.
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Gay and Tina were
relieved when the hitchhiker
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finished his meal.
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They remember that he paid
his bill in Canadian money.
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I watched the hitchhiker
go out and approach Fraser.
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- Where you heading?
- Down south.
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Yeah?
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I'm heading that way, too.
- Good.
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How about a ride?
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Uh, I'm going
to go in here yet.
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- You sure?
- Yeah.
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All right.
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The car sat for a few minutes,
and then he pulled ahead
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like he had second thoughts.
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Still heading
in this direction?
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I thought you were going
to have a bite to eat.
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Mind if I go with you?
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The hitchhiker just ran beside
him and pulled the door open,
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and the young man in the car
proceeded to let him enter.
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The strange thing was was
as they left the yard,
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Tina made some remark about
he's going to live to regret
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this day he picked this man up.
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It was like a sixth
sense that this man
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was capable of anything.
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Eight hours later and 200
miles south of the 40 Mile Flat
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Cafe, Eddie and Pauline
Olson of Katwanga,
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Canada pulled over to
help a stranded motorist.
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Oh, wow, am I glad
to see you guys.
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Hey, I think my
car ran out of gas.
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I don't know what
happened, because I
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stopped at the last gas
stop, but it just quit.
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I'm on my way to college
and I've got all my stuff
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in the back of the car.
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You could tell he was
nervous, but I thought that--
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well, you know, he was just
scared of being out here
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this late at night, didn't
want to stay out here,
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because it's kind
of a remote area.
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And at that point I just
said, well, I'll tow you home
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and we'll figure it
out in the morning.
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Now, you can sleep down here.
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We've had quite a few
people stay down here,
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and they have pretty good sleep.
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No, this will be great.
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I really appreciate everything
you guys have done for me.
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You can just pick out
whichever couch you want there,
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and there are some
blankets right there.
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OK.
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Have a good sleep, and
we'll see you in the morning.
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All right, thanks.
I'll sleep good.
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He slept downstairs
in our basement,
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and I have about 12 or 15
guns in a gun case down there.
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And where he slept, the guns
were just right beside him
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there.
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Oh, good morning.
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How did you sleep?
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Oh, I slept great, thanks.
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Oh, sit down, have of coffee.
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Thank you.
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The next morning,
the young man
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told the Olsons that his parents
were both doctors in Anchorage
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and that he was on his way
to college in the States
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to study medicine.
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And I really wanted
to thank you guys.
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Well, I got talking
to him about his car,
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and he told me that
if I was interested,
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he would sell it to me.
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And I said, well,
I was interested,
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because all he wanted was
a plane ticket to Seattle.
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But I said, the only
way I would buy it
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is if he waited till Monday
and we went through customs.
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And he said that would
be too late for him.
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I can't wait till Monday.
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I need to be in
Seattle on Monday.
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I really can't wait.
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I really need to get going.
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Is there something I can
do for your hospitality?
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Anything?
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The Olsons were surprised
when the young man
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pulled out two wallets and
began to behave secretively.
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He gave the Alston's
$20 in American money,
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then left to fix his car.
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Thank you.
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Within an hour, the young
man was back on the road,
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headed south.
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The car trouble had
turned out to be nothing
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more than a broken fan belt.
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12 Hours later, the charred
ruins of Phillip Fraser's car
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were found at a
car wash in Prince
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George, British Columbia, 300
miles from the Olsons' home.
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The condition of the
car after it was burned,
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it was almost totally
gutted out on the inside
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due to the fire and fire
damage to the outside, as well.
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Nothing was found in the
car of any significance.
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In fact, none of Phillip
Fraser's belongings
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have ever been found.
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The parents were
contacted in Alaska,
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and there was a great
deal of investigation done
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at that point, as
Phillip was considered
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a missing person and
potentially a homicide victim.
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I was sure that there
had been foul play,
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but I kept hoping, thinking
of all sorts of alternatives,
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like maybe he decided he
wanted to ditch his car
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and being on his own.
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And I knew-- intellectually,
I knew that was wrong,
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because he really loved his car.
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Six weeks later, a
body was discovered
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in a gravel turnaround area 70
miles from the Olsons' home.
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At the time of the
discovery of the body,
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it was already well
known about the incident
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of the car burning in the
car wash in Prince George.
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And almost immediately,
investigators
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who are looking at the remains
being that of Phillip Fraser.
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In order to do a
positive identification,
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we required dental
records from Alaska, which
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we obtained very quickly
and were able to make
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that identification.
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I think-- excuse me.
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Any parent who loses a kid feels
like he's lost part of himself.
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I think that's the--
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one of the things you definitely
feel, you feel like you
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aren't intact yourself.
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I just think it's very difficult
to describe it in words.
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You felt like your
life and your family
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has been truncated, cut off.
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I felt angry, bitter.
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I wondered, what sort of a
person, what kind of a person
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would destroy someone who is so
idealistic and so full of life?
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What really happened
along that lonely stretch
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of Highway 1?
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The Royal Canadian
Mounted Police
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theorize that the
mystery hitchhiker
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learned everything he
could about Philip Fraser
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and then killed him.
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They believe the hitchhiker
assumed Phillip's identity,
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stole his possessions,
and finally
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attempted to destroy the car.
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In my mind, he most definitely
is a dangerous person.
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He's taken one life.
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He has the capability
of taking more.
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As to whether he has done
this type of thing before,
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I couldn't say that.
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But we know he has
taken one life,
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and I would consider
him very dangerous.
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These are composite drawings
of the hitchhiker, based
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on the descriptions of
Gay and Tina Frockledge
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and Eddie and Pauline Olson.
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He is Caucasian, about
five feet nine inches tall,
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and weighs approximately
225 pounds.
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He has a flabby belly
which overhangs his belt,
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and is between 20
and 25 years old.
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He has brown hair
and brown eyes.
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The authorities believe
that the hitchhiker
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is familiar with the Toronto
area and the Seattle,
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Washington area.
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He may be masquerading
as Philip Innes Fraser.
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Among the items
never recovered were
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Philip Frasier's
birth certificate,
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visa, passport, and checkbook.
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Next, three fishermen
are lost at sea,
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but some believe
they survived and are
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being held against their will.
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[music playing]
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The vast oceans of the world
have captivated humankind
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since the dawn of civilization.
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The young especially
seemed drawn by the promise
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of adventure and
romance, but there
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are also 1,000 hidden dangers.
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Sometimes the sea can be
an unforgiving mistress.
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In 1990 alone,
865 people drowned
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in American coastal waters.
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April 12, 1990,
Richland Hill, Georgia,
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just south of Savannah.
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Four commercial fishermen
prepare to embark on a seven
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day expedition in the Atlantic.
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The Captain is 23-year-old
Billy Joe Neesmith.
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The crew includes
his brother, Nathan,
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his nephew, Keith Wilkes, and
a friend, Franklin Brantley.
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You're ready,
let's go fishing.
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Franklin, you in?
- I'm in.
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I'm in, let's go.
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All right, it's all your.
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In the late
afternoon, they set off
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on the Casie Nicole, a
snapper boat owned by Billy
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Joe Neesmith's employer.
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The boat had recently
been returned
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to service after five weeks
in dry dock for maintenance.
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We were headed out probably
approximately close to 90 miles
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offshore.
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I guess it was
somewhere around 3:30,
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4:00 in the morning
that next morning.
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It was still dark.
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I had got up and was
operating the boat,
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and the boat just seemed
to be sluggish, you know,
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like it wanted to bust
through the waves,
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kind of like a
submarine or something.
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It didn't want to
ride over the waves.
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Something's wrong.
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Man.
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We're going to the right.
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Billy Joe!
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So I told my brother,
he was laying in the bunk.
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I woke him up.
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I said, Billy Joe, I
said, all of a sudden,
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I said, something's
wrong with the boat.
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What's up, man?
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It won't stay on course.
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What do you mean, it
won't stay on course?
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00:16:29,222 --> 00:16:31,024
I'm losing 10,
15 degrees, man.
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00:16:31,124 --> 00:16:33,226
I tried it manually,
and it keeps going off.
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00:16:33,326 --> 00:16:37,197
And then I tried
it automatic pilot,
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00:16:37,297 --> 00:16:38,331
and it just-- it
won't hold, man.
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Jesus.
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We got to nosing around,
the boat was riding
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pretty deep in the water.
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Yeah, [inaudible]
two foot down.
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Did you check the engine?
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It sounds like sputtering a bit.
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No, I ain't checked it, man.
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00:16:47,507 --> 00:16:50,577
We better check it, though.
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00:16:50,677 --> 00:16:53,113
Oh man, Nathan, we got two
foot of water down there.
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Let me see that light.
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There you go.
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Nathan, did you
get them pumps yet?
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No.
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Hit him a couple times.
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And we started
working on our pumps,
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00:17:01,388 --> 00:17:03,523
trying to get our pumps to
work to pump the boat out.
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00:17:03,623 --> 00:17:04,424
How about now?
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Nothing.
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00:17:06,126 --> 00:17:07,660
We got to get them boys up next.
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00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,596
We got to start bucking this
water out here right now.
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00:17:09,696 --> 00:17:13,266
The other crew members
slept down in the bow,
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and when we turn
on the light, we
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00:17:14,667 --> 00:17:15,968
notice there was
water about a foot
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deep down in the bunks
were they were at.
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And we got in a line and
started passing the bucket,
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00:17:25,678 --> 00:17:28,248
trying to bail the boat out.
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00:17:28,348 --> 00:17:30,217
In the meantime, we
took the life raft out.
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It was a two man life raft.
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We'd been hollering
mayday on the radio.
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00:17:34,854 --> 00:17:35,955
We had Billy Joe
on it, working it.
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Casie Nicole.
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00:17:36,989 --> 00:17:38,325
We're taking in
water, going down.
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00:17:38,425 --> 00:17:40,693
Somebody, come back
with it, please.
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We never did get
anywhere with that.
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00:17:42,829 --> 00:17:45,832
And the engine finally stalled.
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00:17:45,932 --> 00:17:49,068
Casie Nicole, we're going--
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All power in the
Casie Nicole was lost.
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The radio was useless.
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The four men abandoned ship.
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00:17:58,711 --> 00:18:00,480
The life raft
was kind of rotten.
348
00:18:00,580 --> 00:18:04,151
It had a hole in the side
of it, up on the top.
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00:18:04,251 --> 00:18:07,920
We don't know for sure if the
anchor snagged it and tore
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this whole in it, or if the
whole thing was just rotten
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and it eventually wore in it.
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00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,728
We don't really know
what happened there,
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00:18:15,828 --> 00:18:17,397
but we do know that
it had a hole in it
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00:18:17,497 --> 00:18:20,467
about the size of a quarter.
355
00:18:20,567 --> 00:18:24,371
By sunrise, the life
raft was sinking fast.
356
00:18:24,471 --> 00:18:26,906
Then salvation
came floating by--
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the hatch cover from
the Casie Nicole.
358
00:18:29,209 --> 00:18:30,109
I think I got it.
359
00:18:30,210 --> 00:18:31,010
You got it?
360
00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:32,645
Oh, his head.
361
00:18:32,745 --> 00:18:33,613
What you doing, feet?
362
00:18:33,713 --> 00:18:34,581
Come on, buddy.
363
00:18:34,681 --> 00:18:36,015
Oh, I'm tired.
364
00:18:41,888 --> 00:18:43,022
Come on, buddy.
365
00:18:43,122 --> 00:18:45,492
The four men tethered
the raft to the hatch cover
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00:18:45,592 --> 00:18:47,126
and clambered aboard.
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00:18:47,227 --> 00:18:50,763
It was then that Nathan Neesmith
spotted the hull of the Casie
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00:18:50,863 --> 00:18:52,699
Nicole in the distance.
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00:18:52,799 --> 00:18:56,836
It looked like it was maybe
three or four miles from us.
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00:18:56,936 --> 00:18:58,571
I said, I don't know what
kind of chance we got,
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00:18:58,671 --> 00:19:01,608
but at least maybe one I was
going make it to the boat
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00:19:01,708 --> 00:19:04,010
and get some kind of help.
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00:19:04,110 --> 00:19:08,348
Well, that's what
I struck out to do.
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00:19:08,448 --> 00:19:10,350
And they started hollering,
no, no, you come back.
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00:19:10,450 --> 00:19:11,951
You stay with us.
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00:19:12,051 --> 00:19:13,085
We can't separate up.
377
00:19:13,186 --> 00:19:15,522
If we separate up, we're
going to be split up,
378
00:19:15,622 --> 00:19:16,856
and there ain't no
telling what go wrong.
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00:19:26,966 --> 00:19:28,701
I just kept swimming
and kept swimming.
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00:19:28,801 --> 00:19:32,272
I swam from oh, about
9 o'clock that morning.
381
00:19:32,372 --> 00:19:36,843
And just before dark that
afternoon, I got to where I
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00:19:36,943 --> 00:19:38,878
thought was what the boat was.
383
00:19:38,978 --> 00:19:41,948
And I got to looking around and
I seen the stern of the boat
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00:19:42,048 --> 00:19:44,584
sticking up at a
distance, probably another
385
00:19:44,684 --> 00:19:47,787
100 yards or so to
the right of it.
386
00:19:47,887 --> 00:19:48,821
So I just kept swimming.
387
00:19:51,090 --> 00:19:54,427
I done swam till I thought there
wasn't no more swimming in me.
388
00:19:54,527 --> 00:19:57,697
And I drank so much salt
water trying to swim in it.
389
00:19:57,797 --> 00:20:02,469
And I was just real weak.
390
00:20:02,569 --> 00:20:05,872
As darkness fell, Nathan
lost sight of his companions.
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00:20:05,972 --> 00:20:08,541
He spent a long, harrowing
night clinging to the hull
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00:20:08,641 --> 00:20:09,609
of the Casie Nicole.
393
00:20:14,146 --> 00:20:15,948
The next morning,
a freighter passed
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00:20:16,048 --> 00:20:18,618
within three miles of Nathan.
395
00:20:18,718 --> 00:20:22,121
This ship here looked like
it made about four stops,
396
00:20:22,221 --> 00:20:23,756
maybe five stops.
397
00:20:23,856 --> 00:20:26,326
And each time it
would stop or circle,
398
00:20:26,426 --> 00:20:28,928
I could see a fog of
smoke boil out of it.
399
00:20:29,028 --> 00:20:34,867
And it was in the direction
that my other mates had went,
400
00:20:34,967 --> 00:20:40,206
so I figured that maybe it
had stopped to pick them up.
401
00:20:40,307 --> 00:20:42,542
The freighter continued
its odd maneuvers for nearly
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00:20:42,642 --> 00:20:44,977
three hours, then disappeared.
403
00:20:45,077 --> 00:20:48,114
For 2 and 1/2 days,
Nathan Neesmith
404
00:20:48,214 --> 00:20:49,749
drifted and prayed
that the Casie
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00:20:49,849 --> 00:20:52,285
Nichole would stay afloat.
406
00:20:52,385 --> 00:20:55,755
All seemed lost, until a
large wood and Styrofoam bait
407
00:20:55,855 --> 00:21:00,993
box ripped loose from the boat's
deck and popped to the surface.
408
00:21:01,093 --> 00:21:02,995
I couldn't tell what
it was for a minute,
409
00:21:03,095 --> 00:21:05,532
because I was scared and
everything like that.
410
00:21:05,632 --> 00:21:09,869
And I swam over to it, where I
could get a better view of it.
411
00:21:09,969 --> 00:21:11,304
Like I say, I was pretty weak.
412
00:21:11,404 --> 00:21:15,041
I couldn't-- I about starved
down I was hungry and thirsty,
413
00:21:15,141 --> 00:21:17,777
and really weak.
414
00:21:17,877 --> 00:21:20,447
And I got to the front
of it and blessed god,
415
00:21:20,547 --> 00:21:21,481
the whole front was out.
416
00:21:21,581 --> 00:21:24,384
I mean, it was just
like a boat to me.
417
00:21:24,484 --> 00:21:26,719
I mean, it looked
like just something
418
00:21:26,819 --> 00:21:28,955
that I needed at the moment.
419
00:21:29,055 --> 00:21:31,458
[music playing]
420
00:21:43,035 --> 00:21:43,970
It was really hot.
421
00:21:44,070 --> 00:21:47,340
I mean, I was getting
real sunburnt.
422
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,742
My skin was turning
real, real red.
423
00:21:49,842 --> 00:21:51,478
And I was very close to dead.
424
00:21:51,578 --> 00:21:55,281
I mean, actually I was
to the stage of death,
425
00:21:55,382 --> 00:21:57,249
but I knew I couldn't
give up because I had
426
00:21:57,350 --> 00:21:58,851
two kids and a wife at home.
427
00:21:58,951 --> 00:22:01,253
And I remember
saying, God, please
428
00:22:01,354 --> 00:22:03,155
let me go home to
my wife and kids
429
00:22:03,255 --> 00:22:05,392
and be able to raise my kids.
430
00:22:05,492 --> 00:22:07,660
Don't let me die in this ocean.
431
00:22:12,632 --> 00:22:16,135
At 10:00 AM on April
15, 1990, Nathan Neesmith
432
00:22:16,235 --> 00:22:19,472
was finally rescued, 20 miles
off the coast of Georgia.
433
00:22:19,572 --> 00:22:22,809
He had been adrift without
food or water for four days.
434
00:22:30,750 --> 00:22:33,786
Nathan Neesmith's
companions were never found.
435
00:22:33,886 --> 00:22:35,888
A large scale search
mounted by the Coast Guard
436
00:22:35,988 --> 00:22:39,191
yielded no trace of the life
raft or the hatch cover,
437
00:22:39,291 --> 00:22:42,061
but Nathan and his family never
gave up hope that the three men
438
00:22:42,161 --> 00:22:44,130
might somehow have survived.
439
00:22:44,230 --> 00:22:47,133
It seemed a futile hope
until a strange telephone
440
00:22:47,233 --> 00:22:50,470
call was made to the home
of Nathan's sister, Oneda.
441
00:22:50,570 --> 00:22:53,239
[phone ringing]
442
00:22:54,273 --> 00:22:56,776
It was October 5,
1990, six months
443
00:22:56,876 --> 00:22:59,412
after the Casie Nicole sunk.
444
00:22:59,512 --> 00:23:04,250
Oneda's mother-in-law
answered the telephone.
445
00:23:04,350 --> 00:23:05,151
Hello.
446
00:23:05,251 --> 00:23:06,586
[speaking gibberish]
447
00:23:06,686 --> 00:23:08,488
What?
448
00:23:08,588 --> 00:23:09,922
I can't understand you.
449
00:23:10,022 --> 00:23:12,759
Can you speak English?
450
00:23:12,859 --> 00:23:15,528
The caller, a man,
spoke in Spanish
451
00:23:15,628 --> 00:23:17,764
and seemed unable to
understand English.
452
00:23:17,864 --> 00:23:18,831
No.
453
00:23:18,931 --> 00:23:20,166
I can't understand a
word you're saying.
454
00:23:20,266 --> 00:23:22,401
Can you speak English?
455
00:23:22,502 --> 00:23:25,237
All this person would keep
saying is repeating our phone
456
00:23:25,337 --> 00:23:28,107
number and saying our name.
457
00:23:28,207 --> 00:23:29,208
And that's all.
458
00:23:29,308 --> 00:23:31,377
Then it was just like a cut off.
459
00:23:31,478 --> 00:23:33,446
It wasn't anything after that.
460
00:23:33,546 --> 00:23:36,082
And you know, we just
kept Hello, hello.
461
00:23:36,182 --> 00:23:39,619
And it was just cut
off, static cut off.
462
00:23:39,719 --> 00:23:42,088
STACK: That same day,
an unusual call also
463
00:23:42,188 --> 00:23:44,056
came into the home
of Doug Tyson,
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00:23:44,156 --> 00:23:47,226
owner of the ill-fated
Casie Nicole.
465
00:23:47,326 --> 00:23:48,427
Hello?
466
00:23:48,528 --> 00:23:50,763
ROBERT STACK: Once again,
the caller was a man.
467
00:23:50,863 --> 00:23:53,432
The only English words
he said were the Tysons'
468
00:23:53,533 --> 00:23:55,468
name and telephone number.
469
00:23:55,568 --> 00:23:57,436
That was strange.
470
00:23:57,537 --> 00:23:58,805
What do you mean?
471
00:23:58,905 --> 00:24:00,707
They were speaking in Spanish.
472
00:24:00,807 --> 00:24:01,908
In Spanish?
473
00:24:02,008 --> 00:24:03,510
DOUG TYSON: We didn't say
anything about the call
474
00:24:03,610 --> 00:24:04,644
when we got it.
475
00:24:04,744 --> 00:24:07,346
Six weeks later, after
that, about six weeks,
476
00:24:07,446 --> 00:24:09,982
we were down visiting
with the Neesmith family,
477
00:24:10,082 --> 00:24:13,653
and they started telling
us about their call.
478
00:24:13,753 --> 00:24:16,789
And after they got through, I
said, how long ago was this?
479
00:24:16,889 --> 00:24:18,390
I asked them.
480
00:24:18,491 --> 00:24:21,761
They thought back a minute,
and they said about six weeks.
481
00:24:21,861 --> 00:24:22,695
I looked at my wife.
482
00:24:22,795 --> 00:24:25,197
She looked at me,
nodded her head.
483
00:24:25,297 --> 00:24:26,432
He said, about the same time?
484
00:24:26,533 --> 00:24:29,301
And I said, yeah.
485
00:24:29,401 --> 00:24:32,505
ROBERT STACK: Over the next
year, five more calls came in--
486
00:24:32,605 --> 00:24:35,542
three to Oneda and
two to that Tysons.
487
00:24:35,642 --> 00:24:38,945
Finally, on March 6,
1991, a caller spoke
488
00:24:39,045 --> 00:24:41,614
a single sentence in English.
489
00:24:41,714 --> 00:24:44,416
Hello?
490
00:24:44,517 --> 00:24:46,318
Excuse me?
491
00:24:46,418 --> 00:24:49,922
ONEDA DRAWDY: He said
just very simple words.
492
00:24:50,022 --> 00:24:52,792
Not, "I'm bringing it home,"
"I'm bringing him home."
493
00:24:52,892 --> 00:24:55,695
He just said, "I'm
bringing them home."
494
00:24:55,795 --> 00:24:56,963
That was it.
495
00:24:57,063 --> 00:24:57,864
Hello?
496
00:24:57,964 --> 00:24:59,165
Hello?
497
00:24:59,265 --> 00:25:00,299
ROBERT STACK: After
only a moment,
498
00:25:00,399 --> 00:25:01,901
the connection was broken.
499
00:25:02,001 --> 00:25:04,203
There have been no calls since.
500
00:25:04,303 --> 00:25:06,673
The Neesmiths and the Tysons
are convinced that the three
501
00:25:06,773 --> 00:25:09,776
missing men were taken
aboard the passing freighter
502
00:25:09,876 --> 00:25:12,344
and perhaps transported
to a foreign country
503
00:25:12,444 --> 00:25:15,481
against their will.
504
00:25:15,582 --> 00:25:16,783
I think they're
somewhere being held.
505
00:25:16,883 --> 00:25:18,050
I really do.
506
00:25:18,150 --> 00:25:20,352
And I think that whoever
called us is putting theirself
507
00:25:20,452 --> 00:25:27,927
on the line because my brother
or my nephew or our friend,
508
00:25:28,027 --> 00:25:32,098
one of the three has made a
friend, a very dear friend
509
00:25:32,198 --> 00:25:36,903
because this person
that's doing this
510
00:25:37,003 --> 00:25:41,340
is probably putting himself
on the line to do it.
511
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,275
In my mind, people
are lost at sea.
512
00:25:43,375 --> 00:25:44,176
They're never found.
513
00:25:44,276 --> 00:25:45,444
I realize that.
514
00:25:45,544 --> 00:25:48,547
But there's no explanation
for where the debris went.
515
00:25:48,648 --> 00:25:50,449
And then the fact that
Nathan's seen his ship
516
00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:52,351
stopped the first day--
517
00:25:52,451 --> 00:25:55,622
you add all those together
with the phone calls,
518
00:25:55,722 --> 00:25:59,959
and I think it adds up to a
tremendous amount of hope.
519
00:26:00,059 --> 00:26:05,998
In my heart, yes, I
feel like they're alive.
520
00:26:06,098 --> 00:26:07,433
I think they had a lot--
521
00:26:07,533 --> 00:26:11,804
I know they had a lot better
chance of surviving than I did.
522
00:26:11,904 --> 00:26:14,506
I don't think that I would've
ever made it not knowing
523
00:26:14,607 --> 00:26:15,407
that they couldn't make it.
524
00:26:19,278 --> 00:26:20,713
ROBERT STACK: What really
happened to the lost
525
00:26:20,813 --> 00:26:23,115
crewman of the Casie Nicole?
526
00:26:23,215 --> 00:26:24,851
A Coast Guard search
was the largest
527
00:26:24,951 --> 00:26:27,553
ever conducted in the
area of the Atlantic Ocean
528
00:26:27,654 --> 00:26:31,223
where they disappeared.
529
00:26:31,323 --> 00:26:35,662
Officially, Billy Jo Neesmith,
Keith Wilkes, and Franklin
530
00:26:35,762 --> 00:26:37,997
Brantley are presumed dead.
531
00:26:38,097 --> 00:26:40,366
Unofficially, there
seems reasonable hope
532
00:26:40,466 --> 00:26:41,834
that they may still be alive.
533
00:26:45,337 --> 00:26:47,907
When we return, one
man's poignant search
534
00:26:48,007 --> 00:26:50,576
for his long-lost child
who stands to inherit
535
00:26:50,677 --> 00:26:51,978
more than a million dollars.
536
00:27:06,325 --> 00:27:09,161
MARY HELEN: It's our baby, Mac.
537
00:27:09,261 --> 00:27:11,630
Beautiful baby, huh?
538
00:27:11,731 --> 00:27:13,866
It's ours.
539
00:27:13,966 --> 00:27:15,134
ROBERT STACK: For
most parents, seeing
540
00:27:15,234 --> 00:27:16,769
their baby for the
very first time
541
00:27:16,869 --> 00:27:19,906
is a moment of unrestrained joy.
542
00:27:20,006 --> 00:27:22,775
But for this young father,
it was a moment of confusion
543
00:27:22,875 --> 00:27:26,913
and panic that drove him
away from the girl he loved
544
00:27:27,013 --> 00:27:30,883
and the child he
has not seen since.
545
00:27:30,983 --> 00:27:31,951
Don't go.
546
00:27:32,051 --> 00:27:32,852
Don't--
547
00:27:36,455 --> 00:27:37,690
ROBERT STACK: Four
decades later,
548
00:27:37,790 --> 00:27:41,060
the young man is 63 years old.
549
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,130
WB Mac McDonald is now
a wealthy businessman
550
00:27:44,230 --> 00:27:48,835
with a sizable estate,
yet he is very much alone.
551
00:27:48,935 --> 00:27:51,003
Mac has never been married.
552
00:27:51,103 --> 00:27:53,405
No one from his immediate
family is still alive.
553
00:27:57,043 --> 00:28:00,579
For 30 years, Mac McDonald has
been searching for his child,
554
00:28:00,679 --> 00:28:03,215
but has found only frustration.
555
00:28:03,315 --> 00:28:06,953
Those lost years are the one
thing his money cannot buy.
556
00:28:07,053 --> 00:28:11,023
Mac's story begins in 1948
in Pomona, California, when
557
00:28:11,123 --> 00:28:13,059
he fell madly,
perhaps tragically,
558
00:28:13,159 --> 00:28:15,394
in love with a girl next door.
559
00:28:15,494 --> 00:28:17,629
Her name was Mary Helen Carr.
560
00:28:17,730 --> 00:28:19,665
She was just 16 years old.
561
00:28:27,506 --> 00:28:30,276
MAC MCDONALD: The first time
that I noticed my neighbor she
562
00:28:30,376 --> 00:28:35,748
was in the swing on
her front porch she was
563
00:28:35,848 --> 00:28:40,419
in a pair of white slacks
and a light-colored blouse
564
00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:44,290
and very pleasing to look at.
565
00:28:44,390 --> 00:28:45,858
While she was
there on the swing,
566
00:28:45,958 --> 00:28:51,931
there was a definite
attraction both ways.
567
00:28:52,031 --> 00:28:56,468
However, I guess I was a
little shy at that time.
568
00:28:56,568 --> 00:28:58,270
I didn't speak to
her at that time.
569
00:28:58,370 --> 00:29:02,875
It was several months before I
finally began to speak to her.
570
00:29:02,975 --> 00:29:04,210
Nice bike.
571
00:29:04,310 --> 00:29:05,111
Yeah.
572
00:29:05,211 --> 00:29:06,245
I like to keep it clean.
573
00:29:06,345 --> 00:29:08,414
My name's Mac.
574
00:29:08,514 --> 00:29:09,515
Mary Helen.
575
00:29:09,615 --> 00:29:11,317
Nice to meet you.
576
00:29:11,417 --> 00:29:13,853
I've seen you before.
577
00:29:13,953 --> 00:29:17,056
Uh, I'm just cleaning my bike.
578
00:29:17,156 --> 00:29:19,892
Would you like to go
for a ride sometime?
579
00:29:19,992 --> 00:29:24,296
My mother would forbid me to
ride that, especially with you.
580
00:29:24,396 --> 00:29:25,497
Is your mother always here?
581
00:29:30,536 --> 00:29:32,038
ROBERT STACK: The
romance progressed slowly
582
00:29:32,138 --> 00:29:33,305
and discreetly.
583
00:29:33,405 --> 00:29:35,441
Mary Helen's mother
was distrustful
584
00:29:35,541 --> 00:29:37,343
of Mac's intentions.
585
00:29:37,443 --> 00:29:39,511
Still, the two young
lovers saw each other
586
00:29:39,611 --> 00:29:43,850
at every available opportunity,
until the inevitable day
587
00:29:43,950 --> 00:29:46,618
came when Mary Helen's
mother caught them together.
588
00:29:51,023 --> 00:29:54,793
We were planning
on a future together
589
00:29:54,894 --> 00:29:58,430
and here were these
tremendous stumbling blocks
590
00:29:58,530 --> 00:29:59,798
being thrown out into the path.
591
00:30:04,036 --> 00:30:06,305
ROBERT STACK: Mac felt he had
no choice but to pack his bags
592
00:30:06,405 --> 00:30:07,773
and leave.
593
00:30:07,874 --> 00:30:12,278
His destination, the
oil fields of Texas.
594
00:30:12,378 --> 00:30:13,412
I'm sorry.
595
00:30:13,512 --> 00:30:15,848
MAC MCDONALD: I was very
much in love with her.
596
00:30:15,948 --> 00:30:21,587
My whole life was revolving
around her at that time.
597
00:30:21,687 --> 00:30:25,557
But with the disturbance that
I was causing her at home,
598
00:30:25,657 --> 00:30:27,559
I thought, well,
I'll get away a while
599
00:30:27,659 --> 00:30:29,996
and maybe it'll solve
some of these problems.
600
00:30:30,096 --> 00:30:33,933
We can be sure that what we
were feeling for each other
601
00:30:34,033 --> 00:30:36,668
is going to last the
rest of our lives.
602
00:30:40,406 --> 00:30:43,175
We both agreed that this
was the best thing to do,
603
00:30:43,275 --> 00:30:44,977
but it didn't make
it any easier.
604
00:30:47,779 --> 00:30:49,648
I went directly to Houston.
605
00:30:49,748 --> 00:30:51,517
The only time I
stopped on that trip
606
00:30:51,617 --> 00:30:57,289
was just for gas because I
left part of me in Pomona.
607
00:30:57,389 --> 00:31:01,527
And it didn't get any easier the
more miles I got away from her.
608
00:31:04,196 --> 00:31:05,564
ROBERT STACK: Three
weeks later, Mac had
609
00:31:05,664 --> 00:31:07,633
established himself in Houston.
610
00:31:07,733 --> 00:31:09,902
He had no idea
that Mary Helen had
611
00:31:10,002 --> 00:31:13,339
run away from home to join him.
612
00:31:13,439 --> 00:31:15,541
MAC MCDONALD: Mary Helen
called me from the bus station
613
00:31:15,641 --> 00:31:20,046
there in Houston and she
says, I'm here for good.
614
00:31:20,146 --> 00:31:22,848
And I told her,
I'll be right there.
615
00:31:26,118 --> 00:31:28,720
And I tore the
streets up getting
616
00:31:28,820 --> 00:31:30,056
down to the bus station.
617
00:31:30,156 --> 00:31:33,825
It was a very happy reunion.
618
00:31:33,926 --> 00:31:35,427
Here we are.
619
00:31:35,527 --> 00:31:37,596
ROBERT STACK: The next
day, Mac and Mary Helen,
620
00:31:37,696 --> 00:31:40,166
posing as husband and
wife, found an apartment
621
00:31:40,266 --> 00:31:42,434
and began planning for
the rest of their lives.
622
00:31:42,534 --> 00:31:43,435
We're here for the apartment.
623
00:31:43,535 --> 00:31:44,670
You called.
624
00:31:44,770 --> 00:31:46,872
ROBERT STACK: Their troubles
seemed far behind them.
625
00:31:46,973 --> 00:31:48,007
You just got married, right?
626
00:31:48,107 --> 00:31:48,907
Yeah.
627
00:31:49,008 --> 00:31:50,242
Well, congratulations.
628
00:31:50,342 --> 00:31:51,177
Thank you.
629
00:31:51,277 --> 00:31:52,078
Well, it's right here.
630
00:31:52,178 --> 00:31:55,181
Let me show you.
631
00:31:55,281 --> 00:31:57,083
MAC MCDONALD: It was
happiness itself.
632
00:31:57,183 --> 00:32:00,686
It was the ultimate dream.
633
00:32:00,786 --> 00:32:04,356
The feeling that she gave you--
she was beautiful to look at.
634
00:32:04,456 --> 00:32:06,358
She was beautiful to talk to.
635
00:32:06,458 --> 00:32:12,064
And she gave you the incentive
to tear the world up.
636
00:32:12,164 --> 00:32:13,499
- I met a new neighbor.
- You did?
637
00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:14,466
- Yeah.
- Are they nice?
638
00:32:14,566 --> 00:32:16,868
Yeah, real nice.
639
00:32:16,969 --> 00:32:19,571
ROBERT STACK: One month later,
Mac and Mary Helen's world
640
00:32:19,671 --> 00:32:20,639
would collapse again.
641
00:32:20,739 --> 00:32:22,008
It's very good.
642
00:32:22,108 --> 00:32:23,875
[phone ringing]
643
00:32:25,811 --> 00:32:27,113
Hello?
644
00:32:27,213 --> 00:32:28,947
Just a minute.
645
00:32:29,048 --> 00:32:30,983
ROBERT STACK: A friend tipped
Mac off that the police were
646
00:32:31,083 --> 00:32:32,518
on their way to the apartment.
647
00:32:32,618 --> 00:32:33,452
Hello?
648
00:32:33,552 --> 00:32:34,486
ROBERT STACK: Mary
Helen's mother
649
00:32:34,586 --> 00:32:36,622
had made good on her threats.
650
00:32:36,722 --> 00:32:38,657
The authorities carried
warrants charging
651
00:32:38,757 --> 00:32:42,261
Mac with statutory rape and
illegally living with a minor.
652
00:32:42,361 --> 00:32:44,063
Right now?
653
00:32:44,163 --> 00:32:45,497
I'm so sorry.
654
00:32:45,597 --> 00:32:46,932
I don't know how she found out.
655
00:32:47,033 --> 00:32:48,134
It's not your fault.
656
00:32:48,234 --> 00:32:49,635
She must've talked to
your mother or something.
657
00:32:49,735 --> 00:32:50,536
It's OK.
658
00:32:50,636 --> 00:32:51,670
It's not your fault.
659
00:32:51,770 --> 00:32:53,372
- I don't know how she found me.
- That's fine.
660
00:32:53,472 --> 00:32:54,273
That's fine.
661
00:32:54,373 --> 00:32:56,442
I'll call you.
662
00:32:56,542 --> 00:32:58,910
ROBERT STACK: Mac made his
escape with no time to spare.
663
00:33:09,121 --> 00:33:11,690
MAC MCDONALD: I left Texas,
and it was in the afternoon.
664
00:33:11,790 --> 00:33:13,659
It seemed like
afternoons is when all
665
00:33:13,759 --> 00:33:16,828
these departures took place.
666
00:33:16,928 --> 00:33:19,131
And I didn't stop till I was
out of the state of Texas.
667
00:33:23,001 --> 00:33:25,704
I was devastated again.
668
00:33:25,804 --> 00:33:30,076
They jerked her
back to California
669
00:33:30,176 --> 00:33:32,678
and I had no way of
contacting her again.
670
00:33:41,387 --> 00:33:43,655
ROBERT STACK: A year passed.
671
00:33:43,755 --> 00:33:47,359
Mac returned to California
to take a new job.
672
00:33:47,459 --> 00:33:49,328
One evening, he and
a friend stopped off
673
00:33:49,428 --> 00:33:52,698
at a drive-in in Long Beach.
674
00:33:52,798 --> 00:33:55,467
Mac?
675
00:33:55,567 --> 00:33:57,203
Mary?
676
00:33:57,303 --> 00:33:59,705
MAC MCDONALD: I almost
fell out of the car.
677
00:33:59,805 --> 00:34:03,142
The waitress-- the carhop
that came to wait on us
678
00:34:03,242 --> 00:34:05,777
was Mary Helen.
679
00:34:05,877 --> 00:34:07,313
Los Angeles is a big city.
680
00:34:07,413 --> 00:34:09,481
It was a big city then.
681
00:34:09,581 --> 00:34:12,351
And the possibilities of
driving into a restaurant
682
00:34:12,451 --> 00:34:16,288
and having her the
waitress was like hitting
683
00:34:16,388 --> 00:34:18,490
a keno ticket here in Reno.
684
00:34:18,590 --> 00:34:20,859
Well, listen, I can't
really talk to you,
685
00:34:20,959 --> 00:34:22,494
but I get off work at 9:00.
686
00:34:22,594 --> 00:34:24,096
Do you want to come
by my apartment?
687
00:34:24,196 --> 00:34:24,996
Yeah.
688
00:34:27,366 --> 00:34:30,202
Here's my address.
689
00:34:30,302 --> 00:34:32,171
Great.
690
00:34:32,271 --> 00:34:36,108
You can see our baby.
691
00:34:36,208 --> 00:34:37,109
I have a baby?
692
00:34:42,114 --> 00:34:43,815
MAC MCDONALD: I almost
had heart failure.
693
00:34:43,915 --> 00:34:47,719
It took my breath away because
I had no idea she was pregnant.
694
00:34:47,819 --> 00:34:51,623
There was that
possibility, though.
695
00:34:51,723 --> 00:34:53,192
So I told her I'll
be right over.
696
00:35:05,704 --> 00:35:06,572
When I--
697
00:35:06,672 --> 00:35:09,074
Mac.
698
00:35:09,175 --> 00:35:11,076
Come on in.
699
00:35:11,177 --> 00:35:12,744
MAC MCDONALD: --with
this baby in her arms.
700
00:35:12,844 --> 00:35:13,645
Come in.
701
00:35:13,745 --> 00:35:15,514
Look.
702
00:35:15,614 --> 00:35:17,583
MAC MCDONALD: I thought,
well, the police department
703
00:35:17,683 --> 00:35:19,685
is probably on premises.
704
00:35:19,785 --> 00:35:21,052
Honey?
705
00:35:21,153 --> 00:35:22,488
MAC MCDONALD: This is
just a matter of time
706
00:35:22,588 --> 00:35:25,791
till I'm going to be shackled
and in jail over this.
707
00:35:25,891 --> 00:35:27,893
I'm so glad to see you.
708
00:35:27,993 --> 00:35:30,496
MAC MCDONALD: I
was so distraught
709
00:35:30,596 --> 00:35:34,933
when her mother opened the
door that I overlooked the fact
710
00:35:35,033 --> 00:35:37,102
that she was about
half-civilized-- the first time
711
00:35:37,203 --> 00:35:40,406
she'd ever spoke to me civilly.
712
00:35:40,506 --> 00:35:43,875
I was in such a
traumatic state of fear,
713
00:35:43,975 --> 00:35:46,111
the benefit of
being able to hold
714
00:35:46,212 --> 00:35:49,080
your baby for the
first time, I missed
715
00:35:49,181 --> 00:35:51,817
that because all I could
think of is either the law
716
00:35:51,917 --> 00:35:54,420
is in the bedroom or
they're on the way.
717
00:35:57,356 --> 00:35:59,858
ROBERT STACK: Mac was terrified
that Mary Helen's mother still
718
00:35:59,958 --> 00:36:03,395
had a warrant out
for his arrest.
719
00:36:03,495 --> 00:36:07,098
In California, statutory rape
was punishable by up to 30
720
00:36:07,199 --> 00:36:09,768
years in prison.
721
00:36:09,868 --> 00:36:13,305
Mac McDonald stayed for
less than five minutes.
722
00:36:13,405 --> 00:36:17,843
He never even learned if the
baby was a boy or a girl.
723
00:36:17,943 --> 00:36:21,247
MAC MCDONALD: I feel that I made
the greatest mistake of my life
724
00:36:21,347 --> 00:36:26,017
by not staying there
and riding it out.
725
00:36:26,117 --> 00:36:28,787
I don't think there was--
726
00:36:28,887 --> 00:36:33,158
probably-- well,
it's been 40 years?
727
00:36:33,259 --> 00:36:34,326
That's what it's cost me.
728
00:36:37,128 --> 00:36:43,168
I feel that the youngster
is entitled to my estate.
729
00:36:43,269 --> 00:36:47,606
I'm not entitled to be
its father, probably,
730
00:36:47,706 --> 00:36:51,877
but I would want that
youngster to know that,
731
00:36:51,977 --> 00:36:55,981
even with the mistakes,
that I love him and I want
732
00:36:56,081 --> 00:36:56,882
him to have the best.
733
00:37:00,252 --> 00:37:02,854
The night of our
broadcast, Mac McDonald
734
00:37:02,954 --> 00:37:05,624
learned that he had a
daughter named Sherry.
735
00:37:05,724 --> 00:37:08,594
The long-awaited news came from
a viewer in Dallas, Texas--
736
00:37:08,694 --> 00:37:11,697
Mary Helen Carr,
Sherry's mother.
737
00:37:11,797 --> 00:37:14,065
Unlike many of the
reunions we have feature,
738
00:37:14,165 --> 00:37:17,102
the end of this search evoked
decidedly mixed emotions
739
00:37:17,202 --> 00:37:20,472
for Mac, for Mary Helen, and
especially for their daughter,
740
00:37:20,572 --> 00:37:24,876
Sherry, who'd been raised by a
loving and caring stepfather.
741
00:37:24,976 --> 00:37:27,713
I'm 43 years old
and pretty well
742
00:37:27,813 --> 00:37:29,581
set in my life and everything.
743
00:37:29,681 --> 00:37:31,417
And I didn't know what to think.
744
00:37:31,517 --> 00:37:34,720
I'm very happily married
and have two great kids
745
00:37:34,820 --> 00:37:38,724
and we just are a
normal, American family.
746
00:37:38,824 --> 00:37:43,829
And this is quite a
shock to everyone.
747
00:37:43,929 --> 00:37:45,764
ROBERT STACK: One week
after our broadcast,
748
00:37:45,864 --> 00:37:49,801
Mac McDonald arrived at Sherry's
home in Denver, Colorado.
749
00:37:49,901 --> 00:37:53,204
For Mac, the reunion would bring
a bittersweet, and at times
750
00:37:53,305 --> 00:37:55,607
unsettling, reconciliation
with the past.
751
00:37:59,445 --> 00:38:00,245
Hello.
752
00:38:00,346 --> 00:38:01,713
Hi.
753
00:38:01,813 --> 00:38:02,681
Come on in.
754
00:38:02,781 --> 00:38:04,182
[inaudible] right place?
755
00:38:04,282 --> 00:38:05,083
Yes.
756
00:38:05,183 --> 00:38:06,051
Hi, Mac.
757
00:38:11,490 --> 00:38:15,026
MAC MCDONALD: It's hard to
describe the feeling that I had
758
00:38:15,126 --> 00:38:18,330
for my daughter when I opened
the door and she was there
759
00:38:18,430 --> 00:38:20,999
and I was able to hold her.
760
00:38:21,099 --> 00:38:22,501
- Sit down.
- I don't want to sit down.
761
00:38:22,601 --> 00:38:23,402
I want to hold you.
762
00:38:27,873 --> 00:38:31,276
SHERRY BLACKMAN: I just try
to come to the realization
763
00:38:31,377 --> 00:38:33,345
that it really was my
father standing there
764
00:38:33,445 --> 00:38:37,649
and I just wanted to see,
does he took like me?
765
00:38:37,749 --> 00:38:38,850
Does he act like me?
766
00:38:38,950 --> 00:38:41,920
I have all these things I
need to learn about him.
767
00:38:42,020 --> 00:38:43,188
I don't know what to say.
768
00:38:43,288 --> 00:38:44,490
I'm still in a state of shock.
769
00:38:44,590 --> 00:38:45,891
SHERRY BLACKMAN: At
this point in my life,
770
00:38:45,991 --> 00:38:47,926
to find that there is
someone who is my father
771
00:38:48,026 --> 00:38:50,529
and who wants to establish
a relationship with me,
772
00:38:50,629 --> 00:38:53,899
is just emotionally
very traumatic.
773
00:38:53,999 --> 00:38:55,834
Apparently, he wants
to be part of her life.
774
00:39:00,338 --> 00:39:03,409
And if that's the
case, that's OK.
775
00:39:03,509 --> 00:39:05,844
I hope, since he's gone to
this much effort to find her,
776
00:39:05,944 --> 00:39:10,248
that he doesn't bring
any sorrow to her.
777
00:39:10,348 --> 00:39:12,117
MAC MCDONALD: The
fact that I didn't
778
00:39:12,217 --> 00:39:16,488
stay and fight the battle,
it's most unfortunate.
779
00:39:16,588 --> 00:39:19,458
I don't believe I would
do it that way again.
780
00:39:19,558 --> 00:39:24,563
However, yesterday,
unfortunately can't be redone.
781
00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:29,300
I'd like to.
782
00:39:32,971 --> 00:39:34,372
No matter how
you look at it, he
783
00:39:34,473 --> 00:39:39,945
left my mother with a tiny baby,
and I have to deal with that.
784
00:39:40,045 --> 00:39:41,246
I have to deal with
the fact that I
785
00:39:41,346 --> 00:39:44,550
have a father who loves
for me, who has raised me,
786
00:39:44,650 --> 00:39:45,951
who's cared for me.
787
00:39:46,051 --> 00:39:48,319
But I believe
there's enough room
788
00:39:48,420 --> 00:39:52,424
in this family for everyone,
and I sincerely mean that.
789
00:39:56,462 --> 00:39:59,030
ROBERT STACK: Next, an
ex-cop, masquerading
790
00:39:59,130 --> 00:40:01,700
as a movie producer, is
wanted on charges of rape.
791
00:40:13,979 --> 00:40:16,081
Every year, more than
20 million tourists
792
00:40:16,181 --> 00:40:18,717
descend upon Las Vegas,
Nevada, the gambling
793
00:40:18,817 --> 00:40:21,152
capital of the world.
794
00:40:21,252 --> 00:40:23,154
Most come for only one reason--
795
00:40:23,254 --> 00:40:26,357
to spend and win money.
796
00:40:26,458 --> 00:40:28,494
It's no wonder
that Vegas is also
797
00:40:28,594 --> 00:40:30,361
a mecca for every
kind of hustler
798
00:40:30,462 --> 00:40:32,731
and con artist imaginable.
799
00:40:32,831 --> 00:40:33,865
Yes.
800
00:40:33,965 --> 00:40:35,133
Well, I talked to two
of the guys yesterday,
801
00:40:35,233 --> 00:40:37,503
and they seemed to be excited
about this whole thing,
802
00:40:37,603 --> 00:40:38,770
and so--
803
00:40:38,870 --> 00:40:41,439
ROBERT STACK: In May of 1988,
a self-styled star-maker
804
00:40:41,540 --> 00:40:44,943
named Maxwell Carson
arrived in Las Vegas.
805
00:40:45,043 --> 00:40:47,746
Carson was a smooth talker
who dabbled in anything
806
00:40:47,846 --> 00:40:50,716
that might make money.
807
00:40:50,816 --> 00:40:52,618
Carson owned and
operated a sports
808
00:40:52,718 --> 00:40:54,653
betting business,
a fledgling film
809
00:40:54,753 --> 00:40:58,757
company, and a modeling agency.
810
00:40:58,857 --> 00:41:01,426
But Max Carson was a
man with a dark past.
811
00:41:01,527 --> 00:41:03,562
He was an ex-cop
gone bad, whose real
812
00:41:03,662 --> 00:41:06,231
name was William John Wood.
813
00:41:06,331 --> 00:41:10,301
In 1972, Wood resigned from the
Toledo, Ohio police force while
814
00:41:10,401 --> 00:41:13,338
under investigation
for misconduct.
815
00:41:13,438 --> 00:41:17,308
Between 1977 and
1985, Wood served time
816
00:41:17,408 --> 00:41:20,345
for a number of offenses,
from passing bad checks,
817
00:41:20,445 --> 00:41:23,214
to impersonating a federal
officer, to assault with intent
818
00:41:23,314 --> 00:41:24,115
to rape.
819
00:41:29,254 --> 00:41:32,791
In 1986, William John
Wood moved to Las Vegas
820
00:41:32,891 --> 00:41:34,526
and became Max Carson.
821
00:41:37,696 --> 00:41:39,731
BOB SCOTT: Max was
absolutely obsessed
822
00:41:39,831 --> 00:41:41,967
with good-looking women.
823
00:41:42,067 --> 00:41:45,170
He would, especially
with actresses, models,
824
00:41:45,270 --> 00:41:48,106
any good-looking women,
use the movie industry
825
00:41:48,206 --> 00:41:51,409
or use his clout
as, quote, unquote,
826
00:41:51,509 --> 00:41:58,650
"a movie producer to be," could
get them whatever they wanted.
827
00:41:58,750 --> 00:41:59,585
- Tiffany?
- Yeah.
828
00:41:59,685 --> 00:42:00,485
Hi.
829
00:42:00,586 --> 00:42:03,755
Mr. Carson will see you now.
830
00:42:03,855 --> 00:42:05,591
ROBERT STACK: In
November of 1989,
831
00:42:05,691 --> 00:42:09,194
Carson began holding auditions
for an upcoming film.
832
00:42:09,294 --> 00:42:12,731
One striking 19-year-old
model caught his eye.
833
00:42:12,831 --> 00:42:14,465
We will call her Tiffany.
834
00:42:14,566 --> 00:42:15,433
Hi.
How are you?
835
00:42:15,533 --> 00:42:16,334
Hi.
836
00:42:16,434 --> 00:42:17,235
Great, thank you.
837
00:42:17,335 --> 00:42:18,804
Have a seat.
838
00:42:18,904 --> 00:42:20,405
You're--
- I'm Tiffany.
839
00:42:20,505 --> 00:42:21,306
Tiffany.
840
00:42:21,406 --> 00:42:22,207
TIFFANY: I went in.
841
00:42:22,307 --> 00:42:23,709
I talked to him.
842
00:42:23,809 --> 00:42:27,445
And he told me a little bit
about what the movie was about
843
00:42:27,545 --> 00:42:30,081
and what I would be doing.
844
00:42:30,181 --> 00:42:31,449
I think there's a
role in here for you.
845
00:42:31,549 --> 00:42:32,517
Of course, it's a speaking part.
846
00:42:32,618 --> 00:42:33,484
Oh!
847
00:42:33,585 --> 00:42:35,220
That'd be wonderful.
848
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,055
TIFFANY: He had started
talking about money,
849
00:42:37,155 --> 00:42:40,325
and I felt strange that he would
offer a large amount of money
850
00:42:40,425 --> 00:42:42,293
to someone in my
position that's never
851
00:42:42,393 --> 00:42:44,930
really had any acting before.
852
00:42:45,030 --> 00:42:46,497
So I talked to a
couple of agents.
853
00:42:46,598 --> 00:42:49,300
And they'd all heard of him.
854
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,169
They had done their
homework on him
855
00:42:51,269 --> 00:42:52,871
and found that there was
nothing wrong with him.
856
00:42:52,971 --> 00:42:53,972
Super.
857
00:42:54,072 --> 00:42:55,506
Well, we've got your
address and phone number
858
00:42:55,607 --> 00:42:56,608
and how to get in
touch with you.
859
00:42:56,708 --> 00:42:58,209
And I appreciate you coming in.
860
00:42:58,309 --> 00:42:59,811
ROBERT STACK: Tiffany had
several other meetings
861
00:42:59,911 --> 00:43:03,014
with Carson, but the movie
never got off the ground.
862
00:43:03,114 --> 00:43:07,052
Max Carson's empire was
on the verge of collapse.
863
00:43:07,152 --> 00:43:09,154
We have employees
that haven't been paid.
864
00:43:09,254 --> 00:43:11,489
Now, Bob, just relax.
865
00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:12,858
Have faith.
866
00:43:12,958 --> 00:43:14,760
We've been through
so much together.
867
00:43:14,860 --> 00:43:16,527
ROBERT STACK: By
January of 1990,
868
00:43:16,628 --> 00:43:18,730
Max Carson would shut
down his offices.
869
00:43:18,830 --> 00:43:20,666
Yet he would maintain
the illusion that he
870
00:43:20,766 --> 00:43:23,134
was still in full operation.
871
00:43:23,234 --> 00:43:24,035
Hello.
872
00:43:24,135 --> 00:43:25,971
I'd like to speak to Tiffany.
873
00:43:26,071 --> 00:43:27,739
ROBERT STACK: In February,
he called Tiffany
874
00:43:27,839 --> 00:43:29,374
and hired her as a
last-minute replacement
875
00:43:29,474 --> 00:43:31,109
model for a photo shoot.
876
00:43:31,209 --> 00:43:32,177
--problem down here.
877
00:43:32,277 --> 00:43:34,680
We had a photo session
this afternoon and--
878
00:43:34,780 --> 00:43:36,815
ROBERT STACK: Carson arranged
to meet her later that day
879
00:43:36,915 --> 00:43:39,584
at a restaurant on the strip.
880
00:43:39,685 --> 00:43:40,485
Max?
881
00:43:40,585 --> 00:43:41,519
Oh, hi.
882
00:43:41,619 --> 00:43:42,420
Hi.
883
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:43,521
We're all set up.
884
00:43:43,621 --> 00:43:45,090
We got two rooms set
up, one for wardrobe--
885
00:43:45,190 --> 00:43:47,693
TIFFANY: I had met him in
front of the coffee shop
886
00:43:47,793 --> 00:43:54,065
and he said that we needed
to go to the motel there,
887
00:43:54,165 --> 00:43:57,235
where they had set up
a dressing room for me.
888
00:43:57,335 --> 00:43:58,336
Oh.
889
00:43:58,436 --> 00:43:59,738
Here's the limousine
we're gonna be using.
890
00:43:59,838 --> 00:44:01,506
And-- oh, I wanna thank
you very much for coming
891
00:44:01,606 --> 00:44:02,774
here on short notice.
892
00:44:02,874 --> 00:44:04,876
This shoot should be
probably about two hours.
893
00:44:04,976 --> 00:44:05,844
You'll be done in--
894
00:44:05,944 --> 00:44:07,612
those dresses are just fine.
895
00:44:07,713 --> 00:44:09,981
TIFFANY: I started
to feel a little
896
00:44:10,081 --> 00:44:12,851
uncomfortable just because
there was no one around.
897
00:44:12,951 --> 00:44:14,085
Tiffany, why don't
you just go over
898
00:44:14,185 --> 00:44:16,487
there and fill out those
forms and I'll make a call.
899
00:44:16,587 --> 00:44:19,157
TIFFANY: So I'd left the
door open with my bag
900
00:44:19,257 --> 00:44:21,559
sitting between the
room and the door
901
00:44:21,659 --> 00:44:23,161
so that it would
make it a little bit
902
00:44:23,261 --> 00:44:25,296
difficult to get the door shut.
903
00:44:25,396 --> 00:44:26,197
This
904
00:44:26,297 --> 00:44:27,498
Is Max Carson.
905
00:44:27,598 --> 00:44:30,335
Listen, I'm expecting
somebody in very shortly and--
906
00:44:30,435 --> 00:44:34,539
TIFFANY: Supposedly, he was
calling the makeup artist
907
00:44:34,639 --> 00:44:37,108
and the photographer
to let them know
908
00:44:37,208 --> 00:44:38,910
that we're here and waiting.
909
00:44:39,010 --> 00:44:40,278
Yes.
OK.
910
00:44:40,378 --> 00:44:41,279
Well, I appreciate that.
911
00:44:41,379 --> 00:44:42,513
Thank you very much.
912
00:44:42,613 --> 00:44:44,015
TIFFANY: And about
that time, he had
913
00:44:44,115 --> 00:44:47,185
asked me if I would
give him a hug,
914
00:44:47,285 --> 00:44:50,521
and I knew that
I was in trouble.
915
00:44:50,621 --> 00:44:53,391
Max, I don't feel
very comfortable, OK?
916
00:44:53,491 --> 00:44:55,160
Um, I'm not gonna do the sh--
917
00:44:55,260 --> 00:44:56,862
What do you mean you
don't feel very comfortable?
918
00:44:56,962 --> 00:44:58,797
Let's just forget
about the whole thing.
919
00:44:58,897 --> 00:45:00,531
Max!
920
00:45:00,631 --> 00:45:01,699
You're not going anywhere.
921
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,068
Max, please--
922
00:45:03,168 --> 00:45:04,302
Don't make a sound.
923
00:45:04,402 --> 00:45:05,470
Do what I say and
I won't hurt you.
924
00:45:11,542 --> 00:45:15,646
I thought at that point
that I was going to die.
925
00:45:15,747 --> 00:45:17,015
I thought I was
going to be extremely
926
00:45:17,115 --> 00:45:20,318
lucky if I walked out.
927
00:45:20,418 --> 00:45:25,857
I tried very hard to cooperate,
hoping that that would keep
928
00:45:25,957 --> 00:45:29,094
him from becoming more violent.
929
00:45:29,194 --> 00:45:30,028
This was scary.
930
00:45:33,698 --> 00:45:36,234
ROBERT STACK: Later that day,
Tiffany called the police,
931
00:45:36,334 --> 00:45:37,635
even though Carson
had threatened
932
00:45:37,735 --> 00:45:39,470
that he would accuse
her of prostitution
933
00:45:39,570 --> 00:45:41,907
if she told anyone.
934
00:45:42,007 --> 00:45:44,175
Max Carson was charged
with kidnapping,
935
00:45:44,275 --> 00:45:46,144
sexual assault, and battery.
936
00:45:46,244 --> 00:45:48,146
But by then, he had disappeared.
937
00:45:50,782 --> 00:45:53,351
Two months later and
3,000 miles away,
938
00:45:53,451 --> 00:45:56,321
Max Carson surfaced in
Cocoa Beach, Florida.
939
00:45:56,421 --> 00:46:01,259
Once again, he tried to work
a scam on a beautiful woman.
940
00:46:01,359 --> 00:46:02,193
Hi.
941
00:46:02,293 --> 00:46:03,528
I hope I didn't
keep you waiting.
942
00:46:03,628 --> 00:46:04,429
No.
943
00:46:04,529 --> 00:46:05,630
I just got here.
944
00:46:05,730 --> 00:46:06,764
Well, I've been here before.
945
00:46:06,865 --> 00:46:09,067
Why don't we go
upstairs in the lounge.
946
00:46:09,167 --> 00:46:10,535
How about downstairs?
I just want you--
947
00:46:10,635 --> 00:46:11,903
ROBERT STACK:
Carson and the woman
948
00:46:12,003 --> 00:46:15,140
had arranged to meet in the
lobby of a Cocoa Beach hotel.
949
00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:17,308
Carson wanted to continue
their conversation
950
00:46:17,408 --> 00:46:19,444
in a private room upstairs.
951
00:46:19,544 --> 00:46:22,780
He had convinced the woman
to accept money for sex.
952
00:46:22,881 --> 00:46:23,849
--get something upstairs.
953
00:46:23,949 --> 00:46:24,816
Hold it right there.
954
00:46:24,916 --> 00:46:25,851
Cocoa Beach Police.
955
00:46:25,951 --> 00:46:27,352
You're under arrest
for solicitation.
956
00:46:30,255 --> 00:46:33,058
ROBERT STACK: Max Carson had
walked into a clever trap.
957
00:46:33,158 --> 00:46:35,060
The woman was wearing
a concealed wire
958
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,495
as part of a sting operation.
959
00:46:37,595 --> 00:46:41,432
Carson pleaded guilty to
solicitation of prostitution.
960
00:46:41,532 --> 00:46:44,502
At the time, police in
Florida had no idea that he
961
00:46:44,602 --> 00:46:46,071
was wanted in Las Vegas.
962
00:46:46,171 --> 00:46:47,906
Take this guy downtown.
963
00:46:48,006 --> 00:46:49,674
ROBERT STACK: Two
days later, Max Carson
964
00:46:49,774 --> 00:46:53,678
was released from jail and
disappeared once again.
965
00:46:53,778 --> 00:46:57,515
Only then did police finally
discover his true identity.
966
00:47:00,285 --> 00:47:02,520
William John Wood was
last seen in Reno, Nevada
967
00:47:02,620 --> 00:47:06,791
in March of 1991 still
using the name Max Carson.
968
00:47:06,892 --> 00:47:08,593
He tried to run one of
his scams on a model
969
00:47:08,693 --> 00:47:10,495
he had known in Las Vegas.
970
00:47:10,595 --> 00:47:13,965
When she confronted him with
his past, he disappeared.
971
00:47:14,065 --> 00:47:16,034
Authorities believe he
may be operating anywhere
972
00:47:16,134 --> 00:47:18,636
in the country, though he
seems to prefer Florida,
973
00:47:18,736 --> 00:47:21,006
Nevada, or Southern California.
974
00:47:21,106 --> 00:47:23,374
They are certain that he is
still masquerading as a film
975
00:47:23,474 --> 00:47:25,843
producer or talent agent.
976
00:47:25,944 --> 00:47:27,812
[music playing]
977
00:47:46,764 --> 00:47:48,967
Join me next time
for another edition
978
00:47:49,067 --> 00:47:51,436
of "Unsolved Mysteries".
979
00:47:51,536 --> 00:47:55,073
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