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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,672 --> 00:00:07,408 ANNOUNCER: This program is about unsolved mysteries. 2 00:00:07,508 --> 00:00:09,410 Whenever possible, the actual family members 3 00:00:09,510 --> 00:00:11,379 and police officials have participated 4 00:00:11,479 --> 00:00:13,013 in recreating the events. 5 00:00:13,114 --> 00:00:15,316 What you are about to see is not a news broadcast. 6 00:00:20,754 --> 00:00:22,723 ROBERT STACK: On May 12th, 1982, the body 7 00:00:22,823 --> 00:00:24,792 of a young Minnesota housewife washed up 8 00:00:24,892 --> 00:00:26,660 on the shore of Lake Superior. 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,029 Her husband, Larry Race, was convicted of murder 10 00:00:29,130 --> 00:00:31,099 and sentenced to life in prison. 11 00:00:31,199 --> 00:00:33,934 To this day, Race maintains his innocence 12 00:00:34,034 --> 00:00:36,404 and his dead wife's parents support his claim. 13 00:00:36,504 --> 00:00:40,708 Is Larry Race guilty or innocent? 14 00:00:40,808 --> 00:00:43,511 Helen Rose Myran grew up on the Long Plain Reservation 15 00:00:43,611 --> 00:00:45,413 in Manitoba, Canada. 16 00:00:45,513 --> 00:00:48,716 In 1941, Helen Rose was banished by her father 17 00:00:48,816 --> 00:00:51,419 when she joined the Royal Canadian Air Force. 18 00:00:51,519 --> 00:00:53,321 Heartbroken, she vanished. 19 00:00:53,421 --> 00:00:57,925 Her family has not seen her in nearly 50 years. 20 00:00:58,025 --> 00:01:00,694 Also, thanks to our viewers, a man charged with murdering 21 00:01:00,794 --> 00:01:04,132 his wife is now in custody following a dramatic shootout 22 00:01:04,232 --> 00:01:05,866 with police. 23 00:01:05,966 --> 00:01:09,470 Join me, perhaps you may be able to help solve a mystery. 24 00:02:04,292 --> 00:02:07,261 Lake Superior, headwater of the Great Lakes. 25 00:02:07,361 --> 00:02:10,431 The largest freshwater lake in the world. 26 00:02:10,531 --> 00:02:12,500 The water temperature hovers near freezing 27 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,235 for most of the year. 28 00:02:14,335 --> 00:02:16,103 A person adrift without a life raft 29 00:02:16,204 --> 00:02:20,274 stands little chance of survival. 30 00:02:20,374 --> 00:02:23,811 On May 12, 1982, the lake claimed another victim, 31 00:02:23,911 --> 00:02:26,180 33-year-old Debbie Race. 32 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,750 Her life jacket was intact, she had not drowned. 33 00:02:29,850 --> 00:02:32,720 Debbie Race had succumbed to the icy lake temperatures 34 00:02:32,820 --> 00:02:34,555 and died of hypothermia. 35 00:02:37,591 --> 00:02:39,860 According to the authorities, Debbie Race's death 36 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,729 was no accident. 37 00:02:41,829 --> 00:02:43,464 Her husband, Larry Race, was accused 38 00:02:43,564 --> 00:02:45,065 of deliberately allowing her to freeze 39 00:02:45,165 --> 00:02:47,235 to death in Lake Superior. 40 00:02:47,335 --> 00:02:50,037 He was subsequently convicted of murder. 41 00:02:50,137 --> 00:02:52,973 Yet Debbie's own parents believe that Larry could not possibly 42 00:02:53,073 --> 00:02:54,808 have harmed their daughter. 43 00:02:54,908 --> 00:02:57,010 After eight agonizing years and five 44 00:02:57,110 --> 00:02:59,247 unsuccessful post-trial reviews, this is 45 00:02:59,347 --> 00:03:01,582 the final appeal of Larry Race. 46 00:03:05,553 --> 00:03:07,321 Larry Race is currently serving a life 47 00:03:07,421 --> 00:03:09,189 sentence at Stillwater State Prison 48 00:03:09,290 --> 00:03:13,060 in Minneapolis, Minnesota. 49 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,663 He maintains that the jury which convicted him 50 00:03:15,763 --> 00:03:17,998 was prejudiced, because he had a long history 51 00:03:18,098 --> 00:03:21,335 of adulterous relationships. 52 00:03:21,435 --> 00:03:24,372 LARRY RACE: What happened that night was an accident. 53 00:03:24,472 --> 00:03:25,739 I didn't kill Debbie. 54 00:03:25,839 --> 00:03:29,910 Yes, I was unfaithful, but I had nothing to do with her death 55 00:03:30,010 --> 00:03:31,545 that night. 56 00:03:31,645 --> 00:03:35,349 Adultery, yes, I'm guilty for that. 57 00:03:35,449 --> 00:03:37,951 Sorry for it-- 58 00:03:38,051 --> 00:03:39,052 I'm extremely sorry. 59 00:03:44,358 --> 00:03:46,226 ROBERT STACK: Debbie and Larry Race, along with her three 60 00:03:46,327 --> 00:03:48,562 children, lived in Hoyt Lakes, Minnesota, 61 00:03:48,662 --> 00:03:51,699 75 miles from Lake Superior. 62 00:03:51,799 --> 00:03:54,402 Larry's hobbies were boating and scuba diving, 63 00:03:54,502 --> 00:03:58,138 Debbie built her world around her home and her children. 64 00:03:58,238 --> 00:04:01,074 Over the years, Larry and Debbie's married suffered 65 00:04:01,174 --> 00:04:03,110 badly because of his affairs. 66 00:04:03,210 --> 00:04:07,147 But by 1982, Larry says they had vowed to try again. 67 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,623 May 11th of 1982 was Larry and Debbie's 68 00:04:15,723 --> 00:04:18,091 14th wedding anniversary. 69 00:04:18,191 --> 00:04:21,228 To celebrate, they had dinner at a lakeview restaurant, 70 00:04:21,329 --> 00:04:22,896 and took their boat named the Jenny 71 00:04:22,996 --> 00:04:24,732 Lee, after their daughters, on Lake 72 00:04:24,832 --> 00:04:26,199 Superior for an evening cruise. 73 00:04:30,203 --> 00:04:34,708 LARRY RACE: It felt as if things were starting over again. 74 00:04:34,808 --> 00:04:38,045 Things had like a renewed spirit. 75 00:04:38,145 --> 00:04:42,215 I wanted to stop what I was doing, and I was thinking, 76 00:04:42,316 --> 00:04:44,818 you know, maybe this is the chance. 77 00:04:44,918 --> 00:04:47,087 You know, I have a wonderful woman here, there's 78 00:04:47,187 --> 00:04:50,190 nothing wrong with her, and-- 79 00:04:50,290 --> 00:04:52,426 and I want to take an about face. 80 00:04:57,831 --> 00:04:58,866 ROBERT STACK: After darkness fell, 81 00:04:58,966 --> 00:05:01,535 Larry and Debbie drifted contentedly. 82 00:05:01,635 --> 00:05:03,471 They stayed about one mile off shore, 83 00:05:03,571 --> 00:05:05,238 enjoying the view of the city lights 84 00:05:05,339 --> 00:05:09,009 and listening to tapes of their favorite music. 85 00:05:09,109 --> 00:05:11,211 I'm going to turn the tape over. 86 00:05:11,311 --> 00:05:12,780 Or do you want to listen to another one? 87 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,648 - No, that's good. - All right. 88 00:05:14,748 --> 00:05:17,885 ROBERT STACK: Suddenly at 9 PM, the mood was broken. 89 00:05:17,985 --> 00:05:20,488 Debbie noticed that the boat was taking on water. 90 00:05:20,588 --> 00:05:21,622 ACTOR AS DEBBIE RACE: Larry, there 91 00:05:21,722 --> 00:05:23,357 is water all over the bottom of the boat, 92 00:05:23,457 --> 00:05:25,125 where's that coming from, honey? 93 00:05:25,225 --> 00:05:27,828 ROBERT STACK: Larry says Debbie began to panic. 94 00:05:27,928 --> 00:05:30,163 She had no faith in the Jenny Lee, 95 00:05:30,263 --> 00:05:34,101 because it had nearly sunk the summer before. 96 00:05:34,201 --> 00:05:37,004 LARRY RACE: As soon as we pulled the cover off the engine, 97 00:05:37,104 --> 00:05:39,006 we noticed there was water spraying all over the place. 98 00:05:43,477 --> 00:05:45,946 So we shut the engine down, took the alternator, 99 00:05:46,046 --> 00:05:48,148 loosened up the bolt, and dropped the alternator. 100 00:05:48,248 --> 00:05:49,850 Soon as we dropped the alternator, 101 00:05:49,950 --> 00:05:52,352 it shut the engine down, the water leaking stopped. 102 00:05:52,453 --> 00:05:53,821 ACTOR AS DEBBIE RACE: Is that going to hold? 103 00:05:53,921 --> 00:05:55,623 ACTOR AS LARRY RACE: I think that'll work. 104 00:05:55,723 --> 00:05:57,024 I'm going to have to tape it, though. 105 00:05:57,124 --> 00:05:58,859 LARRY RACE: Things were pretty well under control till then. 106 00:05:58,959 --> 00:06:00,894 We worked together to get the boat fixed, 107 00:06:00,994 --> 00:06:03,330 we worked together to get the water stopped, 108 00:06:03,431 --> 00:06:04,632 and everything was OK. 109 00:06:04,732 --> 00:06:07,635 We didn't feel [inaudible], we had a light on. 110 00:06:07,735 --> 00:06:09,470 Nothing-- nothing was bad then. 111 00:06:09,570 --> 00:06:13,140 ACTOR AS LARRY RACE: Can you cut this tape right here? 112 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,242 LARRY RACE: Once we got all the repairs done, 113 00:06:15,342 --> 00:06:18,812 Debbie went to start the engine. 114 00:06:18,912 --> 00:06:20,113 Larry, it won't start! 115 00:06:20,213 --> 00:06:21,549 ACTOR AS LARRY RACE: Just turn it over, one more time. 116 00:06:21,649 --> 00:06:22,916 LARRY RACE: Well, I figured she just 117 00:06:23,016 --> 00:06:24,652 didn't know how to start it right, so I went to start it. 118 00:06:24,752 --> 00:06:27,721 ACTOR AS LARRY RACE: Here, let me get in there. 119 00:06:27,821 --> 00:06:30,858 LARRY RACE: I made it till almost the battery was dead. 120 00:06:30,958 --> 00:06:34,795 We had two batteries on the boat. 121 00:06:34,895 --> 00:06:36,464 It wouldn't start for me, either. 122 00:06:36,564 --> 00:06:37,698 So now we're both back by the engine, 123 00:06:37,798 --> 00:06:38,899 wondering why it won't start. 124 00:06:38,999 --> 00:06:42,169 Must be something I'm missing here. 125 00:06:42,269 --> 00:06:43,671 [loud bang] 126 00:06:43,771 --> 00:06:45,305 (SCARED) Oh, Larry, we're sinking! 127 00:06:45,405 --> 00:06:47,340 I want to get off the boat now, Larry, I want to get off now! 128 00:06:47,441 --> 00:06:49,276 LARRY RACE: The fear came to both of us 129 00:06:49,376 --> 00:06:51,945 when we heard that gushing and that wooshing noise 130 00:06:52,045 --> 00:06:53,714 from the bottom of the boat. 131 00:06:53,814 --> 00:06:55,348 I mean, I was scared along with her. 132 00:06:55,449 --> 00:06:56,416 She made me scared. 133 00:06:56,517 --> 00:06:57,551 Now I didn't know how to-- 134 00:06:57,651 --> 00:06:59,319 I wasn't thinking right, I didn't listen to what 135 00:06:59,419 --> 00:07:00,788 I-- what I should have done. 136 00:07:00,888 --> 00:07:03,323 I made poor judgments, I listened to what she said, 137 00:07:03,423 --> 00:07:04,558 get off the boat. 138 00:07:04,658 --> 00:07:06,627 OK, crack the valve on this one, I get it together. 139 00:07:06,727 --> 00:07:07,895 OK, tell me when you're ready. 140 00:07:07,995 --> 00:07:09,029 I got it. 141 00:07:09,129 --> 00:07:10,498 LARRY RACE: First thing we did was pull the life 142 00:07:10,598 --> 00:07:14,568 raft out to get it blowing up. 143 00:07:14,668 --> 00:07:18,071 We always carry a scuba tank on the board for that purpose. 144 00:07:18,171 --> 00:07:21,441 Larry, there's holes in it, it's not holding air, 145 00:07:21,542 --> 00:07:22,876 we can't use this! 146 00:07:22,976 --> 00:07:24,277 LARRY RACE: So we tossed that one aside 147 00:07:24,377 --> 00:07:27,214 and got the second one, then we filled that one up the same way 148 00:07:27,314 --> 00:07:28,348 we started the first one. 149 00:07:28,448 --> 00:07:31,552 And that was filled, it worked fine. 150 00:07:31,652 --> 00:07:32,886 - Little more. - OK. 151 00:07:32,986 --> 00:07:34,788 LARRY RACE: Even though these are two man rafts, 152 00:07:34,888 --> 00:07:38,626 there's only room for one person in that boat. 153 00:07:38,726 --> 00:07:39,960 So you're going to get in here, 154 00:07:40,060 --> 00:07:41,128 I'm going to drag us to shore, OK? 155 00:07:41,228 --> 00:07:42,195 ACTOR AS DEBBIE RACE: All right. 156 00:07:42,295 --> 00:07:43,463 ACTOR AS LARRY RACE: OK. 157 00:07:43,564 --> 00:07:44,565 ACTOR AS DEBBIE RACE: OK, I'm going to put my purse 158 00:07:44,665 --> 00:07:45,533 in the bag, give me your shoes. 159 00:07:45,633 --> 00:07:46,934 ROBERT STACK: Debbie put her purse 160 00:07:47,034 --> 00:07:50,337 and other valuables, as well as Larry's shoes into a gear bag. 161 00:07:50,437 --> 00:07:54,875 She took the bag and a scuba tank with her in the life raft. 162 00:07:54,975 --> 00:07:58,445 Larry Race had his dry suit and scuba tanks on board. 163 00:07:58,546 --> 00:08:00,814 He was a strong swimmer, and thought he could tow 164 00:08:00,914 --> 00:08:02,983 Debbie and the raft to safety. 165 00:08:03,083 --> 00:08:04,585 He had done the same thing with his daughters 166 00:08:04,685 --> 00:08:08,656 when the Jenny Lee had run into trouble before. 167 00:08:08,756 --> 00:08:11,458 I knew I had to push her to shore, and I knew I could. 168 00:08:11,559 --> 00:08:13,193 I was strong enough, she said the same thing. 169 00:08:13,293 --> 00:08:16,263 She said Larry, you're strong enough, you can do it. 170 00:08:16,363 --> 00:08:18,632 [crying] 171 00:08:18,732 --> 00:08:20,868 LARRY RACE: I pushed, and I pushed, and I was making it. 172 00:08:20,968 --> 00:08:23,203 I was OK, but I started getting cold. 173 00:08:23,303 --> 00:08:24,672 I can't hold on. 174 00:08:24,772 --> 00:08:26,273 I gotta come in, my hands are freezing. 175 00:08:26,373 --> 00:08:28,375 I can't hold on, I need to get to the boat. 176 00:08:28,475 --> 00:08:29,543 All right. 177 00:08:29,643 --> 00:08:30,911 No, no! 178 00:08:31,011 --> 00:08:32,880 No, Larry, the water's coming in. 179 00:08:32,980 --> 00:08:35,382 No, don't come in, you can't come in. 180 00:08:35,482 --> 00:08:36,349 OK. 181 00:08:36,449 --> 00:08:37,618 LARRY RACE: She was terrified. 182 00:08:37,718 --> 00:08:41,321 And at that time, I knew I couldn't get in the raft. 183 00:08:41,421 --> 00:08:46,259 And, um-- and I thought that, you know, I would die. 184 00:08:46,359 --> 00:08:51,599 And at that time, I made a poor judgment. 185 00:08:51,699 --> 00:08:53,767 Looked off to the right, and there was lights coming. 186 00:08:53,867 --> 00:08:54,968 I said, I'll go for help. 187 00:08:55,068 --> 00:08:56,804 --light out there. 188 00:08:56,904 --> 00:09:00,040 I-- I think I could get to it. 189 00:09:00,140 --> 00:09:03,076 LARRY RACE: The lights were closer than swimming to shore. 190 00:09:05,813 --> 00:09:07,581 Debbie was going that way towards shore, 191 00:09:07,681 --> 00:09:09,917 I was going the opposite way for help. 192 00:09:10,017 --> 00:09:11,685 One of us were going to get help. 193 00:09:11,785 --> 00:09:13,053 One of us were going to get to shore-- 194 00:09:13,153 --> 00:09:14,588 Debbie was going to get to shore for help, 195 00:09:14,688 --> 00:09:16,156 or I was going to get to the boat for help. 196 00:09:16,256 --> 00:09:17,858 One of us were going to get somebody to help. 197 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:22,229 ROBERT STACK: The light Larry Race had seen 198 00:09:22,329 --> 00:09:23,831 was his his own boat. 199 00:09:23,931 --> 00:09:26,566 This time, the engine started. 200 00:09:26,667 --> 00:09:29,036 After catching his breath, he would search for Debbie, 201 00:09:29,136 --> 00:09:32,973 all the while firing distress flares. 202 00:09:33,073 --> 00:09:35,175 In the end, Larry would return to shore 203 00:09:35,275 --> 00:09:37,210 and notify the Coast Guard. 204 00:09:37,310 --> 00:09:40,413 They would conduct a grid search of the lake, to no avail. 205 00:09:43,951 --> 00:09:47,487 The next afternoon, a teenager on his way home from school 206 00:09:47,587 --> 00:09:51,124 saw Debbie Race's body in the lake. 207 00:09:51,224 --> 00:09:53,060 Larry Race was charged with murder. 208 00:09:58,398 --> 00:10:00,533 At his trial, Larry Race's attorneys 209 00:10:00,634 --> 00:10:03,871 advised him not to take the stand on his own behalf. 210 00:10:03,971 --> 00:10:06,874 After he was convicted, Larry hired a new team of lawyers, 211 00:10:06,974 --> 00:10:10,377 insisting that he'd been the victim of incompetent counsel. 212 00:10:10,477 --> 00:10:12,713 Larry Race believes that if he had testified, 213 00:10:12,813 --> 00:10:14,481 the jury would not have found him guilty. 214 00:10:18,618 --> 00:10:20,654 The prosecuting attorney at Larry Race's 215 00:10:20,754 --> 00:10:24,224 tried to link John DeSanto of Duluth, Minnesota. 216 00:10:24,324 --> 00:10:27,127 Even though the case against Larry was circumstantial, 217 00:10:27,227 --> 00:10:29,162 DeSanto was able to convince a jury 218 00:10:29,262 --> 00:10:31,865 that Larry Race had the opportunity, means, 219 00:10:31,965 --> 00:10:35,368 and motive to murder his wife. 220 00:10:35,468 --> 00:10:38,371 JOHN DESANTO: I have absolutely no doubt that Larry Race is 221 00:10:38,471 --> 00:10:40,607 guilty of first degree murder, and that's 222 00:10:40,708 --> 00:10:44,144 why I believe that this is not an appropriate case 223 00:10:44,244 --> 00:10:45,278 for Unsolved Mysteries. 224 00:10:45,378 --> 00:10:49,282 It simply is not an unsolved mystery. 225 00:10:49,382 --> 00:10:52,419 I believe the evidence showed that he wanted out 226 00:10:52,519 --> 00:10:55,255 of an unhappy marriage at this time in his life, 227 00:10:55,355 --> 00:11:00,894 and at the same time, he had $108,000 of life insurance 228 00:11:00,994 --> 00:11:03,596 on her life, in place, that he had purchased 229 00:11:03,697 --> 00:11:06,166 within the seven months previous to her death 230 00:11:06,266 --> 00:11:08,368 through Credit Life Insurance. 231 00:11:08,468 --> 00:11:11,004 Part of it, about $37,000, was mortgage 232 00:11:11,104 --> 00:11:14,775 insurance that came along with the mortgage on his house. 233 00:11:14,875 --> 00:11:17,677 The rest of it came as part of a group policy 234 00:11:17,778 --> 00:11:19,913 from his credit union. 235 00:11:20,013 --> 00:11:22,015 And there was some testimony, in fact, 236 00:11:22,115 --> 00:11:25,819 that Debbie had been the one to seek out 237 00:11:25,919 --> 00:11:29,890 this additional insurance coverage. 238 00:11:29,990 --> 00:11:31,892 Larry, it won't start! 239 00:11:31,992 --> 00:11:33,093 ROBERT STACK: Larry Race's defense 240 00:11:33,193 --> 00:11:35,428 was built around his story of mechanical problems 241 00:11:35,528 --> 00:11:36,964 of the Jenny lee. 242 00:11:37,064 --> 00:11:40,834 The prosecution claimed Larry concocted the episode. 243 00:11:40,934 --> 00:11:42,936 ACTOR AS LARRY RACE: --start up, it's already [inaudible] 244 00:11:43,036 --> 00:11:45,138 ROBERT STACK: After his trial, the Jenny Lee was sold 245 00:11:45,238 --> 00:11:49,609 and an independent mechanic examined the starter. 246 00:11:49,709 --> 00:11:51,912 DAVID W. LARSON: The mechanic said that it was worn, 247 00:11:52,012 --> 00:11:56,049 and that the type of problem that he saw there 248 00:11:56,149 --> 00:11:58,986 would cause an intermittent starting failure. 249 00:11:59,086 --> 00:12:02,990 That the engine, on some occasions, would not start. 250 00:12:03,090 --> 00:12:05,458 At one of Larry Race's post-conviction hearings 251 00:12:05,558 --> 00:12:08,929 following the trial, a man did come forward and testify that 252 00:12:09,029 --> 00:12:13,133 he'd found a starter problem in the Jenny Lee in late May 253 00:12:13,233 --> 00:12:17,304 or early June of 1984, or two years after Debbie's death, 254 00:12:17,404 --> 00:12:20,373 the night of May 11th and 12th of '82. 255 00:12:20,473 --> 00:12:24,044 He simply could not say that this was a problem he-- 256 00:12:24,144 --> 00:12:27,447 that was on the boat the night of Debbie Race's death, 257 00:12:27,547 --> 00:12:29,316 and therefore it was ruled irrelevant, 258 00:12:29,416 --> 00:12:30,951 both in the trial court and ultimately 259 00:12:31,051 --> 00:12:32,652 in the appellate courts. 260 00:12:32,752 --> 00:12:34,888 It-- look, it's losing air, there's holes! 261 00:12:34,988 --> 00:12:35,789 It's got a hole in it! 262 00:12:35,889 --> 00:12:37,124 We can't use this! 263 00:12:37,224 --> 00:12:38,725 ROBERT STACK: Larry Race is adamant that he had two life 264 00:12:38,826 --> 00:12:41,328 rafts on board the Jenny Lee. 265 00:12:41,428 --> 00:12:43,730 JOHN DESANTO: Well, the evidence clearly 266 00:12:43,831 --> 00:12:46,399 showed there was but one raft on the Jenny Lee the night 267 00:12:46,499 --> 00:12:50,070 of May 11th and 12th of 1982. 268 00:12:50,170 --> 00:12:54,041 Every one of Larry Race's diving companions or friends, 269 00:12:54,141 --> 00:12:57,377 or both, that testified at the trial 270 00:12:57,477 --> 00:13:00,213 said that they had never seen him 271 00:13:00,313 --> 00:13:03,917 in possession of two blue and yellow rafts, as he claims. 272 00:13:04,017 --> 00:13:07,587 And also significant is the fact that the search and rescue 273 00:13:07,687 --> 00:13:10,858 people from the Coast Guard said that if that raft had existed, 274 00:13:10,958 --> 00:13:12,625 they would have found it. 275 00:13:12,725 --> 00:13:14,727 We've got-- we don't have a radio-- 276 00:13:14,828 --> 00:13:16,096 ROBERT STACK: At Larry Race's Trial, 277 00:13:16,196 --> 00:13:19,199 the Deputy Sheriff testified that Larry had told him there 278 00:13:19,299 --> 00:13:21,468 were two life rafts on board. 279 00:13:21,568 --> 00:13:22,802 --right now. 280 00:13:22,903 --> 00:13:25,738 I didn't hear you mention any noise makers of any sort. 281 00:13:25,839 --> 00:13:27,740 No, we don't have a noise maker. 282 00:13:27,841 --> 00:13:29,176 But we do have two raft. 283 00:13:29,276 --> 00:13:30,077 Huh. 284 00:13:30,177 --> 00:13:31,811 I just got another raft. 285 00:13:31,912 --> 00:13:35,148 This deputy testified that Larry specifically told 286 00:13:35,248 --> 00:13:37,550 him quote, "What about rafts? 287 00:13:37,650 --> 00:13:39,352 I have two." 288 00:13:39,452 --> 00:13:42,055 That deputy testified about that happening 289 00:13:42,155 --> 00:13:44,357 over two weeks beforehand. 290 00:13:44,457 --> 00:13:46,126 Well, sounds like you've got just about everything. 291 00:13:46,226 --> 00:13:47,460 Yeah. 292 00:13:47,560 --> 00:13:49,062 ROBERT STACK: The prosecution points out to the deputy's 293 00:13:49,162 --> 00:13:51,131 testimony was inconsistent. 294 00:13:51,231 --> 00:13:54,968 When he was first questioned 11 days after Debbie Race's death, 295 00:13:55,068 --> 00:13:56,937 he said he knew nothing about two rafts. 296 00:13:57,037 --> 00:13:59,472 --end up in the water, rafts'd definitely help, yeah. 297 00:14:02,709 --> 00:14:05,212 ROBERT STACK: The prosecution claims that Larry pushed Debbie 298 00:14:05,312 --> 00:14:06,813 and the raft well away from the Jenny 299 00:14:06,914 --> 00:14:10,617 Lee, then returned to the boat and donned his scuba equipment. 300 00:14:13,586 --> 00:14:16,089 They say Larry swam back under Debbie's raft 301 00:14:16,189 --> 00:14:19,059 and slashed it with knife, leaving her to freeze 302 00:14:19,159 --> 00:14:20,493 to death in the icy waters. 303 00:14:20,593 --> 00:14:21,694 [crying] 304 00:14:21,794 --> 00:14:23,296 JOHN DESANTO: This was very significant evidence 305 00:14:23,396 --> 00:14:24,697 at the trial. 306 00:14:24,797 --> 00:14:29,069 And it was that there were five punctures or cuts in the bottom 307 00:14:29,169 --> 00:14:34,241 of the raft, placed in the raft while it was inflated, 308 00:14:34,341 --> 00:14:35,943 because as the experts testified, 309 00:14:36,043 --> 00:14:39,379 there was no knife cut on the top of the raft that would 310 00:14:39,479 --> 00:14:41,181 correspond with the bottom puncture, 311 00:14:41,281 --> 00:14:45,218 meaning the air chambers were inflated. 312 00:14:45,318 --> 00:14:47,454 And strategically placed, in that they 313 00:14:47,554 --> 00:14:49,990 cut both air chambers. 314 00:14:50,090 --> 00:14:53,393 It wasn't a random thing like vandalism, where someone who 315 00:14:53,493 --> 00:14:56,129 isn't really intent on cutting both air chambers, 316 00:14:56,229 --> 00:14:58,231 but just damaging a piece of property. 317 00:14:58,331 --> 00:14:59,866 They were placed in both air chambers, 318 00:14:59,967 --> 00:15:03,170 from the bottom, while the raft was inflated. 319 00:15:03,270 --> 00:15:05,172 ROBERT STACK: The prosecution failed to produce 320 00:15:05,272 --> 00:15:07,640 the knife used to cut the raft. 321 00:15:07,740 --> 00:15:11,311 The puncture marks did not match the only knife found on board 322 00:15:11,411 --> 00:15:12,412 the Jenny Lee. 323 00:15:15,482 --> 00:15:18,018 The prosecution asserts that once Debbie had been set 324 00:15:18,118 --> 00:15:21,654 adrift, Larry dragged the life raft back to the Jenny Lee, 325 00:15:21,754 --> 00:15:24,457 so he would have support for his story about attempting 326 00:15:24,557 --> 00:15:27,260 to inflate a first raft. 327 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,529 JEAN AUBINEAU: All of the events that 328 00:15:29,629 --> 00:15:34,734 leads to the action of Larry, according to the prosecution, 329 00:15:34,834 --> 00:15:38,738 required super human effort, super feat that were 330 00:15:38,838 --> 00:15:42,109 not just physically possible. 331 00:15:42,209 --> 00:15:44,377 ROBERT STACK: Witnesses place the Jenny Lee here, 332 00:15:44,477 --> 00:15:47,247 near the mouth of the Talmadge river at 8:30 PM, 333 00:15:47,347 --> 00:15:49,282 and again at 9:30. 334 00:15:49,382 --> 00:15:53,686 Debbie's body was found here, seven miles away. 335 00:15:53,786 --> 00:15:55,888 According to Jean Aubineau, it would 336 00:15:55,989 --> 00:15:57,957 have been impossible for a body to drift 337 00:15:58,058 --> 00:16:01,028 that far without a raft. 338 00:16:01,128 --> 00:16:05,398 JEAN AUBINEAU: If she has been in the water with a parka, 339 00:16:05,498 --> 00:16:09,136 with a life vest, she can only travel one to two miles 340 00:16:09,236 --> 00:16:11,238 and will hit shore somewhere. 341 00:16:11,338 --> 00:16:15,742 The only way she could have landed seven miles down 342 00:16:15,842 --> 00:16:17,044 was on a raft. 343 00:16:17,144 --> 00:16:18,878 The fact that we just don't know 344 00:16:18,978 --> 00:16:22,949 where the Jenny Lee was on the lake at the time he persuaded-- 345 00:16:23,050 --> 00:16:27,587 that time Larry Race persuaded Debbie to leave it, 346 00:16:27,687 --> 00:16:31,924 makes it impossible to then start with a drift theory that 347 00:16:32,025 --> 00:16:35,928 would put her body at such and such a place, 348 00:16:36,029 --> 00:16:38,898 whether she's in a raft or without a raft. 349 00:16:38,998 --> 00:16:41,801 Because we, again, don't have a precise starting point. 350 00:16:41,901 --> 00:16:43,836 We never did have one, and that's 351 00:16:43,936 --> 00:16:47,374 what makes it so difficult to give any credibility 352 00:16:47,474 --> 00:16:49,709 to the Aubineau drift theory that 353 00:16:49,809 --> 00:16:52,812 was presented by the defense. 354 00:16:52,912 --> 00:16:54,847 ROBERT STACK: According to Larry Race's attorneys, 355 00:16:54,947 --> 00:16:57,016 the skin lividity in Debbie's body 356 00:16:57,117 --> 00:17:00,087 also proves that she came ashore in a life raft. 357 00:17:00,187 --> 00:17:02,789 Debbie's blood had not sunk to her feet. 358 00:17:02,889 --> 00:17:04,624 They claim it would have done so if she'd 359 00:17:04,724 --> 00:17:09,296 been kept afloat in an upright position by a life vest. 360 00:17:09,396 --> 00:17:14,434 The lividity of Debbie Race's blood following her death 361 00:17:14,534 --> 00:17:19,606 was to the back, and that was consistent, 362 00:17:19,706 --> 00:17:24,311 or is consistent with the fact that she floated in the water 363 00:17:24,411 --> 00:17:27,947 with that life jacket, without a raft available to her. 364 00:17:28,047 --> 00:17:30,950 Because as the expert testified at trial, 365 00:17:31,050 --> 00:17:32,285 this particular life jacket would 366 00:17:32,385 --> 00:17:36,623 have kept her basically face up on her back 367 00:17:36,723 --> 00:17:39,892 as she floated, following her death. 368 00:17:39,992 --> 00:17:42,362 Her body, of course, was then found face up, 369 00:17:42,462 --> 00:17:45,332 on its back, on the shore of Lake Superior 370 00:17:45,432 --> 00:17:49,068 as well, which would continue the lividity to her back. 371 00:17:49,169 --> 00:17:51,738 And the autopsy report clearly indicates 372 00:17:51,838 --> 00:17:56,209 the lividity was to her back. 373 00:17:56,309 --> 00:17:57,944 ROBERT STACK: After hearing all the evidence, 374 00:17:58,044 --> 00:18:00,347 but without hearing from Larry Race himself, 375 00:18:00,447 --> 00:18:02,282 a jury of four men and eight women 376 00:18:02,382 --> 00:18:04,851 found him guilty of murder. 377 00:18:04,951 --> 00:18:06,186 MICHELLE LEE RACE: I couldn't believe 378 00:18:06,286 --> 00:18:10,390 it, because there was no hard, cold evidence, hard facts. 379 00:18:10,490 --> 00:18:11,758 There wasn't anything. 380 00:18:11,858 --> 00:18:14,294 It was all circumstantial. 381 00:18:14,394 --> 00:18:17,664 There was nothing concrete about his case 382 00:18:17,764 --> 00:18:20,667 at all, except he had his affairs. 383 00:18:20,767 --> 00:18:23,403 It's hard to take, you know, when 384 00:18:23,503 --> 00:18:25,738 so many people think he was guilty, 385 00:18:25,838 --> 00:18:28,675 but it's never been a problem with us. 386 00:18:28,775 --> 00:18:31,744 We just don't believe he was guilty. 387 00:18:31,844 --> 00:18:34,947 If you only knew Larry, you wouldn't think that Larry would 388 00:18:35,047 --> 00:18:37,350 ever do anything like that. 389 00:18:37,450 --> 00:18:41,588 Today, I'm angry at the fact that he was able to convince 12 390 00:18:41,688 --> 00:18:46,426 jury members that this happened without any facts, 391 00:18:46,526 --> 00:18:49,996 without any evidence, he just says, we think Larry did it. 392 00:18:50,096 --> 00:18:51,564 We want him convicted. 393 00:18:51,664 --> 00:18:52,465 And that's what he did. 394 00:19:20,059 --> 00:19:21,461 You getting off work now? 395 00:19:21,561 --> 00:19:23,463 Yeah, I'm going to go home in a few minutes. 396 00:19:23,563 --> 00:19:24,397 Gonna see your boyfriend? 397 00:19:24,497 --> 00:19:25,665 No. 398 00:19:25,765 --> 00:19:27,367 ROBERT STACK: In 1981, 17-year-old Annette Schappacher 399 00:19:27,467 --> 00:19:30,637 fell in love with Jim Burnside, a butcher at the grocery store 400 00:19:30,737 --> 00:19:31,604 where Annette worked. - Bye. 401 00:19:31,704 --> 00:19:32,505 You have a good evening. 402 00:19:32,605 --> 00:19:34,874 Bye. 403 00:19:34,974 --> 00:19:36,943 ROBERT STACK: A year later, the couple married. 404 00:19:37,043 --> 00:19:40,913 The bride was just 18, the groom, 46. 405 00:19:41,013 --> 00:19:46,619 For Annette, the marriage marked the beginning of a nightmare. 406 00:19:46,719 --> 00:19:48,588 JEAN SCHAPPACHER: She became afraid of him 407 00:19:48,688 --> 00:19:52,325 almost immediately, because he was jealous of her, 408 00:19:52,425 --> 00:19:55,462 and when he was drinking he was violent, and-- 409 00:19:55,562 --> 00:19:59,632 and made remarks to her all the time, that she 410 00:19:59,732 --> 00:20:01,234 would never, ever leave him. 411 00:20:01,334 --> 00:20:05,838 That-- well, he started telling her right from the beginning 412 00:20:05,938 --> 00:20:10,377 that he would kill her if she ever tried to leave him. 413 00:20:10,477 --> 00:20:13,413 ROBERT STACK: In 1987, after five years of nearly constant 414 00:20:13,513 --> 00:20:15,948 emotional and physical abuse, Annette finally 415 00:20:16,048 --> 00:20:17,650 found the courage to leave Jim. 416 00:20:20,387 --> 00:20:23,590 Two months later, Jim Burnside brutally attacked Annette 417 00:20:23,690 --> 00:20:25,392 and one of her coworkers. 418 00:20:25,492 --> 00:20:28,361 [crying] Please! 419 00:20:28,461 --> 00:20:29,362 Hey! 420 00:20:29,462 --> 00:20:33,199 Get over here, what are you doing? 421 00:20:33,300 --> 00:20:35,134 [gunshot] 422 00:20:35,234 --> 00:20:37,604 [crying and screaming] 423 00:20:49,349 --> 00:20:51,784 ROBERT STACK: Annette's coworker survived the attack. 424 00:20:51,884 --> 00:20:54,554 Annette had been stabbed 15 times with a butcher knife, 425 00:20:54,654 --> 00:20:56,022 and was pronounced dead at the scene. 426 00:20:58,691 --> 00:21:03,763 That afternoon, Jim Burnside disappeared. 427 00:21:03,863 --> 00:21:05,097 JEAN SCHAPPACHER: It's bad enough 428 00:21:05,197 --> 00:21:07,767 knowing that Annette had to die, but to know 429 00:21:07,867 --> 00:21:11,070 that he is still out there-- 430 00:21:11,170 --> 00:21:12,805 it's horrible. 431 00:21:12,905 --> 00:21:16,175 We just want him caught, and I just hope and pray 432 00:21:16,275 --> 00:21:17,844 that somebody spots him. 433 00:21:23,082 --> 00:21:24,016 ROBERT STACK: Update. 434 00:21:24,116 --> 00:21:26,218 The night this story aired, two viewers 435 00:21:26,319 --> 00:21:29,489 contacted our telecenter to report that Jim Burnside was 436 00:21:29,589 --> 00:21:33,125 living in Shelby County, Alabama under the assumed name Al 437 00:21:33,225 --> 00:21:35,395 Wilson. 438 00:21:35,495 --> 00:21:37,697 MARY COLLUM: When I saw his actual picture, 439 00:21:37,797 --> 00:21:40,166 I just looked at my husband and I just started pointing 440 00:21:40,266 --> 00:21:44,036 and I'm going, you know, tell me my eyes aren't deceiving me. 441 00:21:44,136 --> 00:21:46,105 You know, that is Al? 442 00:21:46,205 --> 00:21:48,375 And he goes, yes, that's Al. 443 00:21:48,475 --> 00:21:50,543 The first thing I thought is that well, you 444 00:21:50,643 --> 00:21:53,079 know, let's call up the authorities 445 00:21:53,179 --> 00:21:56,949 and get this guy off the street. 446 00:21:57,049 --> 00:21:58,117 ROBERT STACK: Burnside was employed 447 00:21:58,217 --> 00:22:00,653 as a carpenter at the 280 Flea Market, just 448 00:22:00,753 --> 00:22:04,023 outside of Chelsea, Alabama. 449 00:22:04,123 --> 00:22:06,693 JAMES JONES: We had received a call from the FBI office 450 00:22:06,793 --> 00:22:11,664 in Birmingham, stating that they felt pretty sure that Jim 451 00:22:11,764 --> 00:22:14,967 Burnside that would be at this fleamarket on highway 280, 452 00:22:15,067 --> 00:22:18,371 located in Shelby County. 453 00:22:18,471 --> 00:22:20,072 ROBERT STACK: The morning after our broadcast, 454 00:22:20,172 --> 00:22:22,141 FBI agents and Sheriff's deputies 455 00:22:22,241 --> 00:22:23,976 checked out the flea market. 456 00:22:24,076 --> 00:22:25,445 You got a fellow hanging around here 457 00:22:25,545 --> 00:22:26,846 by the name of Al Wilson? 458 00:22:26,946 --> 00:22:28,648 Yeah, he's right there on the roof. 459 00:22:28,748 --> 00:22:31,484 JAMES JONES: And apparently Burnside saw them 460 00:22:31,584 --> 00:22:34,020 and went towards his truck. 461 00:22:37,089 --> 00:22:38,991 FBI, halt! 462 00:22:39,091 --> 00:22:39,992 FBI, hold it! 463 00:22:40,092 --> 00:22:42,429 The The fugitive drew a .357 magnum 464 00:22:42,529 --> 00:22:43,763 and pointed it at the officers. 465 00:22:43,863 --> 00:22:45,197 Put the gun down, put the gun down! 466 00:22:45,297 --> 00:22:46,633 [gunshot] 467 00:22:46,733 --> 00:22:48,067 [gunshot] 468 00:22:48,167 --> 00:22:51,938 [gunshots] 469 00:22:52,038 --> 00:22:54,841 Hands up, get your hands up! 470 00:22:54,941 --> 00:22:56,843 ROBERT STACK: Burnside was struck by two bullets. 471 00:22:56,943 --> 00:23:01,648 He was placed under arrest and taken to a Birmingham hospital. 472 00:23:01,748 --> 00:23:04,517 JAMES JONES: From what we've been able to determine in again 473 00:23:04,617 --> 00:23:06,486 talking to his coworkers, that he had made 474 00:23:06,586 --> 00:23:09,622 a statement on Thursday morning that he had anticipated 475 00:23:09,722 --> 00:23:12,091 having problems that day. 476 00:23:12,191 --> 00:23:14,794 So apparently he had viewed the Unsolved Mysteries 477 00:23:14,894 --> 00:23:15,695 himself Wednesday night. 478 00:23:40,052 --> 00:23:44,156 On April 1, 1988, Jeanne Tovrea, a wealthy socialite 479 00:23:44,256 --> 00:23:46,926 from Phoenix, Arizona, was murdered in her own bed 480 00:23:47,026 --> 00:23:48,795 while she slept. 481 00:23:48,895 --> 00:23:49,996 At the time of her death, she was 482 00:23:50,096 --> 00:23:52,532 worth several million dollars, most of inherited 483 00:23:52,632 --> 00:23:54,166 from her late husband. 484 00:23:54,266 --> 00:23:56,302 But Jeanne Tovrea's origins were humble. 485 00:23:59,005 --> 00:24:00,840 Jeanne was born in a small Arkansas 486 00:24:00,940 --> 00:24:04,544 farming community and married fresh out of high school. 487 00:24:04,644 --> 00:24:07,680 In 1953, her marriage failed, and Jeanne 488 00:24:07,780 --> 00:24:12,752 eventually wound up in Phoenix, working as a cocktail waitress. 489 00:24:12,852 --> 00:24:13,886 If you folks need anything, I'll 490 00:24:13,986 --> 00:24:15,021 be sitting right over there. 491 00:24:15,121 --> 00:24:16,656 ROBERT STACK: Jeanne had no intention of spending 492 00:24:16,756 --> 00:24:18,525 her life waiting tables. 493 00:24:18,625 --> 00:24:20,827 On her rest breaks, she studied real estate 494 00:24:20,927 --> 00:24:25,798 law, determined to make a better life for herself. 495 00:24:25,898 --> 00:24:28,901 Several years later, Jeanne was well on her way. 496 00:24:29,001 --> 00:24:31,871 She had obtained her real estate license in 1970, 497 00:24:31,971 --> 00:24:34,306 and become an immediate success. 498 00:24:34,406 --> 00:24:37,777 In 1971, one of Jeanne's clients introduced her 499 00:24:37,877 --> 00:24:40,680 to Edward Tovrea, a charming, wealthy divorce. 500 00:24:40,780 --> 00:24:42,448 Jeanne's the one that helped us on that real estate 501 00:24:42,549 --> 00:24:43,616 deal I was telling you about. 502 00:24:43,716 --> 00:24:44,551 She did a great job for us. 503 00:24:44,651 --> 00:24:45,251 ACTOR AS EDWARD TOVREA: Oh really? 504 00:24:45,351 --> 00:24:45,818 Well, congratulations. 505 00:24:45,918 --> 00:24:46,853 That was super. 506 00:24:46,953 --> 00:24:48,287 Thanks, you're embarrassing me. 507 00:24:48,387 --> 00:24:49,421 ACTOR AS EDWARD TOVREA: Never be embarrassed when somebody 508 00:24:49,522 --> 00:24:50,823 tells you you've done something well, 509 00:24:50,923 --> 00:24:52,191 it's part of the business. 510 00:24:52,291 --> 00:24:54,594 And I think you're going to do well because of your people 511 00:24:54,694 --> 00:24:56,195 skills or that you're good at. 512 00:24:56,295 --> 00:24:58,164 SANDRA ELDER: Ed had all the qualities 513 00:24:58,264 --> 00:24:59,231 that Jeanne was looking for. 514 00:24:59,331 --> 00:25:00,733 JEANNE'S CLIENT: I'd like to propose a toast. 515 00:25:00,833 --> 00:25:01,934 SANDRA ELDER: It's just that simple. 516 00:25:02,034 --> 00:25:06,372 To old friends, and to new friendships. 517 00:25:06,472 --> 00:25:07,974 You have to kiss a lot of frogs 518 00:25:08,074 --> 00:25:11,878 before you find the prince, and she considered Ed a prince. 519 00:25:14,547 --> 00:25:17,483 ROBERT STACK: Ed Tovrea embarked on an intense courtship, 520 00:25:17,584 --> 00:25:20,052 and Jeanne was swept off her feet. 521 00:25:20,152 --> 00:25:23,022 Ed's ancestors had made millions in the cattle business, 522 00:25:23,122 --> 00:25:26,693 and were among the founding fathers of Phoenix. 523 00:25:26,793 --> 00:25:30,730 But Ed Tovrea made his own name as a pilot in World War II. 524 00:25:30,830 --> 00:25:34,667 He was shot down and taken as a prisoner of war by the Germans. 525 00:25:34,767 --> 00:25:36,468 Ed helped engineer the famous Great 526 00:25:36,569 --> 00:25:38,771 Escape, digging tunnels which allowed 527 00:25:38,871 --> 00:25:43,475 79 other POWs to go free. 528 00:25:43,576 --> 00:25:46,112 Less than a year after they met, Jeanne and Ed 529 00:25:46,212 --> 00:25:49,048 were married in a private ceremony in Hawaii. 530 00:25:49,148 --> 00:25:53,552 Jeanne became an instant hit with the Phoenix upper crust. 531 00:25:53,653 --> 00:25:56,355 DANNY MEDINA: She seemed to fall right into it, 532 00:25:56,455 --> 00:25:58,758 as if though she'd had that money forever. 533 00:25:58,858 --> 00:26:02,261 She was welcomed and very, very well loved, extremely liked. 534 00:26:02,361 --> 00:26:04,230 I don't know of one-- and I can honestly say this-- 535 00:26:04,330 --> 00:26:06,398 I don't know one person that disliked Jeanne. 536 00:26:06,498 --> 00:26:08,300 She was just one of those very special people 537 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,169 with very special qualities. 538 00:26:10,269 --> 00:26:14,073 She treated people like she wanted to be treated. 539 00:26:14,173 --> 00:26:17,644 I never saw any airs with Jeanne. 540 00:26:17,744 --> 00:26:20,747 They entertained a lot, very casual entertaining. 541 00:26:20,847 --> 00:26:22,782 Had friends in. 542 00:26:22,882 --> 00:26:24,350 They had a very good marriage. 543 00:26:24,450 --> 00:26:27,887 They both liked to do the same things. 544 00:26:27,987 --> 00:26:29,521 ROBERT STACK: But there was one cloud darkening 545 00:26:29,622 --> 00:26:31,658 Jeanne and Ed's life together. 546 00:26:31,758 --> 00:26:36,395 Respiratory problems had plagued Ed ever since his POW days. 547 00:26:36,495 --> 00:26:39,331 By 1982, he was virtually bedridden, 548 00:26:39,431 --> 00:26:42,434 and Jeanne nursed him around the clock. 549 00:26:42,534 --> 00:26:43,535 How about a little soup? 550 00:26:43,636 --> 00:26:46,338 Jeanne, I think it's about time 551 00:26:46,438 --> 00:26:51,210 we talked about what you're going to do after I'm gone. 552 00:26:51,310 --> 00:26:53,379 Ed, please don't talk that way. 553 00:26:53,479 --> 00:26:56,115 I just want to make sure you're taken care of. 554 00:26:56,215 --> 00:26:59,819 You get the house, and you're comfortable. 555 00:26:59,919 --> 00:27:02,154 OK? 556 00:27:02,254 --> 00:27:04,056 OK. 557 00:27:04,156 --> 00:27:07,794 Jeanne was not a greedy person. 558 00:27:07,894 --> 00:27:09,996 It wasn't like, well, I-- 559 00:27:10,096 --> 00:27:13,700 I have married you, everything you have is mine. 560 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:14,633 This was not Jeanne. 561 00:27:17,303 --> 00:27:21,240 ROBERT STACK: On July 11, 1983, Ed Tovrea died. 562 00:27:21,340 --> 00:27:24,576 He left Jeanne an estate worth millions, including the house 563 00:27:24,677 --> 00:27:27,780 and a valuable art collection. 564 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,216 SANDRA ELDER: It was hard for her 565 00:27:30,316 --> 00:27:32,919 to visualize life without him, because he 566 00:27:33,019 --> 00:27:35,822 was her steadying factor. 567 00:27:35,922 --> 00:27:39,692 I think it was scary for her. 568 00:27:39,792 --> 00:27:41,427 ROBERT STACK: After a period of mourning, 569 00:27:41,527 --> 00:27:45,597 Jeanne threw herself back into the Phoenix social world. 570 00:27:45,698 --> 00:27:47,934 DANNY MEDINA: I think it was her way to get over everything, 571 00:27:48,034 --> 00:27:50,636 and meet people. 572 00:27:50,737 --> 00:27:55,174 Became quite the socialite, and chaired many of the balls, 573 00:27:55,274 --> 00:27:57,076 and her circle of friends all went. 574 00:27:57,176 --> 00:28:00,646 So it became a very-- for Jeanne it became a way 575 00:28:00,747 --> 00:28:03,382 of doing things for herself. 576 00:28:03,482 --> 00:28:05,217 Well, I'm going to finish these last few invitations 577 00:28:05,317 --> 00:28:06,685 and call it a night. 578 00:28:06,786 --> 00:28:09,055 ROBERT STACK: The evening of March 31, 1988, 579 00:28:09,155 --> 00:28:12,491 found Jeanne Tovrea preparing the final few invitations for 580 00:28:12,591 --> 00:28:15,194 yet another high society party. 581 00:28:15,294 --> 00:28:18,497 At 7 PM, she spoke with her sister. 582 00:28:18,597 --> 00:28:21,133 By 1:00 AM the next day, she would be dead. 583 00:28:23,803 --> 00:28:25,304 DANNY MEDINA: She had mailed those invitations 584 00:28:25,404 --> 00:28:27,406 and then they came right after we found 585 00:28:27,506 --> 00:28:29,075 out that she had been murdered. 586 00:28:29,175 --> 00:28:32,979 And it did do a number on all of us. 587 00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:35,848 It was almost like, remember my party? 588 00:28:35,948 --> 00:28:38,084 It was very spooky. 589 00:28:38,184 --> 00:28:39,819 ACTOR AS ERNIE HAMRICK: Wonder if he did that before 590 00:28:39,919 --> 00:28:41,453 or after he killed her. 591 00:28:41,553 --> 00:28:42,688 ROBERT STACK: At the murder scene, 592 00:28:42,789 --> 00:28:44,857 police found several fingerprints, but 593 00:28:44,957 --> 00:28:47,026 little other physical evidence. 594 00:28:47,126 --> 00:28:49,528 Jeanne's purse, along with her identification 595 00:28:49,628 --> 00:28:51,063 and credit cards, were missing. 596 00:28:51,163 --> 00:28:52,765 ACTOR AS ERNIE HAMRICK: --to the jewelry case, too. 597 00:28:52,865 --> 00:28:54,733 COP: Ernie, do you want to move the pillow? 598 00:28:54,834 --> 00:28:56,135 ACTOR AS ERNIE HAMRICK: Sure. 599 00:28:56,235 --> 00:28:58,170 ACTOR AS ERNIE HAMRICK: Those credit cards never been found 600 00:28:58,270 --> 00:29:01,207 and they've never been used to this day. 601 00:29:01,307 --> 00:29:04,276 The fingerprints that we have have been compared 602 00:29:04,376 --> 00:29:06,913 to every name that's been mentioned to us, 603 00:29:07,013 --> 00:29:09,615 has been through our computer system, 604 00:29:09,715 --> 00:29:14,553 and we have not identified who those prints belong to. 605 00:29:14,653 --> 00:29:18,858 In my opinion, and that opinion of two detectives, 606 00:29:18,958 --> 00:29:21,760 all felt it that she was the victim of a hit. 607 00:29:21,861 --> 00:29:25,898 She was killed intentionally for somebody. 608 00:29:31,737 --> 00:29:34,040 ROBERT STACK: Police theorize that the killer was familiar 609 00:29:34,140 --> 00:29:36,675 with Jeanne's neighborhood, because he had so easily 610 00:29:36,775 --> 00:29:38,044 gained access to her home. 611 00:29:42,915 --> 00:29:44,550 ERNIE HAMRICK: I would say the suspect at least had 612 00:29:44,650 --> 00:29:46,652 some knowledge of the house. 613 00:29:46,752 --> 00:29:48,821 Entry into the house was made through a window, 614 00:29:48,921 --> 00:29:52,859 but it was done in a manner not to set the alarm system off. 615 00:29:59,966 --> 00:30:03,735 There's white carpeting throughout the house, 616 00:30:03,836 --> 00:30:07,139 and there was no indications in any room, except her bedroom, 617 00:30:07,239 --> 00:30:09,541 that anybody had been in there. 618 00:30:09,641 --> 00:30:11,410 It appears that he knew the direct path 619 00:30:11,510 --> 00:30:14,446 from the point of entry to her bedroom and where she was. 620 00:30:25,124 --> 00:30:28,527 She was shot while she lay in bed, asleep. 621 00:30:28,627 --> 00:30:31,197 There was no obvious signs of a struggle. 622 00:30:31,297 --> 00:30:38,404 [muffled gunshots] 623 00:30:38,504 --> 00:30:40,239 ROBERT STACK: Police believe that the killers scattered 624 00:30:40,339 --> 00:30:43,075 Jeanne's costume jewelry simply to give the appearance 625 00:30:43,175 --> 00:30:44,944 of a burglary attempt. 626 00:30:45,044 --> 00:30:47,546 He left thousands of dollars worth of real jewelry 627 00:30:47,646 --> 00:30:50,116 untouched in the next room. 628 00:30:50,216 --> 00:30:52,851 Also, it seemed that he wanted someone to be alerted. 629 00:30:55,587 --> 00:30:59,191 ERNIE HAMRICK: The alarm was set off when the sliding door 630 00:30:59,291 --> 00:31:01,127 was opened by the suspect. 631 00:31:01,227 --> 00:31:04,030 He could have out the same way he got in without ever 632 00:31:04,130 --> 00:31:06,565 setting the alarm off. 633 00:31:06,665 --> 00:31:09,301 It's only a theory, but one of the reasons we considered 634 00:31:09,401 --> 00:31:12,838 is that this person, if he was paid to kill her, 635 00:31:12,939 --> 00:31:14,340 wanted to let the person who paid 636 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:15,807 him know that the job was done. 637 00:31:18,978 --> 00:31:21,047 ROBERT STACK: Who could have wanted Jeannie Tovrea dead? 638 00:31:21,147 --> 00:31:24,383 Police were at a loss, until they were given the old tapes 639 00:31:24,483 --> 00:31:27,386 from her answering machine. 640 00:31:27,486 --> 00:31:30,289 That was when they heard the voice of a mysterious man who 641 00:31:30,389 --> 00:31:31,590 called himself Gordon Phillips. 642 00:31:31,690 --> 00:31:32,724 GORDON PHILLIPS (ON TAPE): --and I 643 00:31:32,824 --> 00:31:35,061 will try and call back this afternoon, 644 00:31:35,161 --> 00:31:38,064 and I have some information for you. 645 00:31:38,164 --> 00:31:39,698 It's a beautiful place you have here. 646 00:31:39,798 --> 00:31:43,102 ROBERT STACK: In 1987, Phillips, who claimed to be a magazine 647 00:31:43,202 --> 00:31:46,338 writer, had tried to interview Jeanne about her late husband's 648 00:31:46,438 --> 00:31:47,539 POW experiences. 649 00:31:47,639 --> 00:31:48,874 How may I help you? 650 00:31:48,975 --> 00:31:50,309 Well, as I told you on the phone, 651 00:31:50,409 --> 00:31:52,144 I'm writing a book about prisoners of war. 652 00:31:52,244 --> 00:31:53,479 I'd like to talk to you specifically 653 00:31:53,579 --> 00:31:55,214 about your husband, Ed. 654 00:31:55,314 --> 00:31:57,749 Well, you know, that was a very long time ago. 655 00:31:57,849 --> 00:31:59,451 I'm not that familiar with Ed's past. 656 00:31:59,551 --> 00:32:02,154 Well, surely he must have said something to you 657 00:32:02,254 --> 00:32:04,023 about his POW experience. 658 00:32:04,123 --> 00:32:06,625 I mean, that was a big part of his life. 659 00:32:06,725 --> 00:32:08,460 He didn't like to dwell in the past. 660 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:09,895 You know, you'd be better off talking 661 00:32:09,996 --> 00:32:11,363 to the first Mrs. Tovrea. 662 00:32:11,463 --> 00:32:13,265 Tell me about Ed himself. 663 00:32:13,365 --> 00:32:15,067 Your husband, the man. What was he like? 664 00:32:15,167 --> 00:32:17,236 Mr. Phillips, you say you worked for Time Life. 665 00:32:17,336 --> 00:32:18,570 Yes. 666 00:32:18,670 --> 00:32:20,072 Well, then of course you would have some identification 667 00:32:20,172 --> 00:32:21,140 you could show me. 668 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,541 Well, actually I'm a freelance writer, 669 00:32:22,641 --> 00:32:24,376 I'm not really on staff. 670 00:32:24,476 --> 00:32:27,113 I can provide you with some references. 671 00:32:27,213 --> 00:32:29,748 You know, I'm going to have to cut you short. 672 00:32:29,848 --> 00:32:31,450 I have a plane to catch in the morning, and a lot-- 673 00:32:31,550 --> 00:32:33,585 SANDRA ELDER: Jeanne had him checked out, 674 00:32:33,685 --> 00:32:37,456 and Time magazine had never heard of him. 675 00:32:37,556 --> 00:32:40,326 And Jeanne once again told him that she was 676 00:32:40,426 --> 00:32:43,095 the wrong person to talk to. 677 00:32:43,195 --> 00:32:45,264 She couldn't seem to make him understand this. 678 00:32:51,337 --> 00:32:53,339 ROBERT STACK: Gordon Phillips continued to hound 679 00:32:53,439 --> 00:32:55,241 Jeanne Tovrea by phone. 680 00:32:55,341 --> 00:32:58,644 If she was not in, he left messages on her machine. 681 00:32:58,744 --> 00:33:01,813 And Jeanne became certain that Phillips was following her. 682 00:33:01,913 --> 00:33:05,317 Mr. Phillips, I told you, I do not want to meet with you. 683 00:33:05,417 --> 00:33:06,952 SANDRA ELDER: Maybe she'd be at a party, 684 00:33:07,053 --> 00:33:08,787 or out shopping or something, and she 685 00:33:08,887 --> 00:33:10,989 thinks she saw this guy. 686 00:33:11,090 --> 00:33:13,292 For a while there, it was every time she went 687 00:33:13,392 --> 00:33:16,028 somewhere she would see him. 688 00:33:16,128 --> 00:33:20,932 He never came up to her, but she would see him in a crowd. 689 00:33:21,033 --> 00:33:25,204 And she was extremely nervous about this. 690 00:33:25,304 --> 00:33:26,805 GORDON PHILLIPS (ON TAPE): Look, Jeanne, this is 691 00:33:26,905 --> 00:33:28,006 Gordon Phillips checking back. 692 00:33:28,107 --> 00:33:32,044 It's about 3:30, I will call back around 5:00. 693 00:33:32,144 --> 00:33:34,446 Thank you. 694 00:33:34,546 --> 00:33:35,847 [machine beep] 695 00:33:35,947 --> 00:33:38,484 ROBERT STACK: Police still have no idea who Gordon Phillips is, 696 00:33:38,584 --> 00:33:41,253 where he has gone, or whether he was involved 697 00:33:41,353 --> 00:33:45,157 in the murder of Jeanne Tovrea. 698 00:33:45,257 --> 00:33:50,262 My greatest fear is that I'll never know why. 699 00:33:50,362 --> 00:33:55,234 It's inconceivable to me that Jeanne was murdered. 700 00:33:55,334 --> 00:33:57,436 This happens to other people, it's 701 00:33:57,536 --> 00:33:58,470 what you read in the newspaper. 702 00:33:58,570 --> 00:34:01,540 It doesn't happen to my family. 703 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,942 I miss her. 704 00:34:04,042 --> 00:34:07,579 She was my sister, she was my best friend. 705 00:34:07,679 --> 00:34:10,182 She was mine, and she didn't deserve to die. 706 00:34:34,373 --> 00:34:36,041 ROBERT STACK: When we return, the saga 707 00:34:36,142 --> 00:34:39,010 of a young Indian woman who ran off to join the Air Force 708 00:34:39,111 --> 00:34:40,579 and never came home. 709 00:34:50,922 --> 00:34:54,326 In Manitoba, Canada, just across the North Dakota border 710 00:34:54,426 --> 00:34:57,396 is a family called the Myran clan. 711 00:34:57,496 --> 00:35:00,699 They are part of the plains Ojibwe Indian nation. 712 00:35:00,799 --> 00:35:03,235 In the 1940s, the Myrans found themselves caught 713 00:35:03,335 --> 00:35:06,472 between the global politics of the Second World War 714 00:35:06,572 --> 00:35:08,707 and the deeply rooted traditions of the Ojibwe. 715 00:35:12,778 --> 00:35:15,547 There were seven children in the Myran family. 716 00:35:15,647 --> 00:35:18,417 The youngest girl, Helen Rose, was just six months old when 717 00:35:18,517 --> 00:35:21,487 this picture was taken in 1925. 718 00:35:21,587 --> 00:35:26,292 Her family has not seen her for more than half a century. 719 00:35:26,392 --> 00:35:29,195 It's been going on too long. 720 00:35:29,295 --> 00:35:33,432 We've missed her too long, too many years have gone by. 721 00:35:33,532 --> 00:35:36,067 And we'd like to find her now. 722 00:35:36,168 --> 00:35:43,442 No matter where she is, we still love her, 723 00:35:43,542 --> 00:35:45,977 and we're all concerned about her, too. 724 00:35:49,448 --> 00:35:51,417 ROBERT STACK: When the Myran children were growing up, 725 00:35:51,517 --> 00:35:53,785 they spent the winter months at a government boarding school. 726 00:35:56,822 --> 00:35:59,525 Every summer, they came home to their parents' log cabin 727 00:35:59,625 --> 00:36:03,862 on the Ojibwe reservation. 728 00:36:03,962 --> 00:36:05,797 ACTRESS AS MRS. Myran: Helen Rose, come and sit beside me. 729 00:36:10,035 --> 00:36:11,770 ROBERT STACK: In September of 1932, 730 00:36:11,870 --> 00:36:13,905 the children prepared to return to school, 731 00:36:14,005 --> 00:36:17,142 even though their mother was gravely ill. 732 00:36:17,243 --> 00:36:21,780 And I might not be here when you return from school. 733 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,317 Be a good girl, and make me proud of you. 734 00:36:25,417 --> 00:36:26,785 I will. 735 00:36:26,885 --> 00:36:27,686 Goodbye. 736 00:36:32,023 --> 00:36:33,725 ROBERT STACK: A month later, Archie Myran 737 00:36:33,825 --> 00:36:37,162 showed up at his children's school, unannounced. 738 00:36:37,263 --> 00:36:39,298 When you children left last summer, 739 00:36:39,398 --> 00:36:42,401 your mother was very sick. 740 00:36:42,501 --> 00:36:45,637 FLORA MERRICK: Our dad came and told us that our mother 741 00:36:45,737 --> 00:36:47,506 had passed away. 742 00:36:47,606 --> 00:36:48,440 And-- 743 00:36:48,540 --> 00:36:50,376 --she died there, three days ago. 744 00:36:50,476 --> 00:36:55,013 FLORA MERRICK: Right away I saw what it was going to do to her. 745 00:36:55,113 --> 00:36:56,147 ACTOR AS ARCHIE MYRAN: Helen Rose! 746 00:36:59,918 --> 00:37:01,753 ROBERT STACK: All of the children were devastated, 747 00:37:01,853 --> 00:37:03,922 especially Helen Rose. 748 00:37:04,022 --> 00:37:06,124 Always her mother's favorite, she would never 749 00:37:06,224 --> 00:37:07,526 fully recover from the death. 750 00:37:19,538 --> 00:37:23,108 By 1941, Helen Rose was in her junior year 751 00:37:23,208 --> 00:37:24,576 at the boarding school. 752 00:37:24,676 --> 00:37:28,046 She was 17, and the world had become a very different place. 753 00:37:31,483 --> 00:37:33,619 Right now as I'm speaking, the German hordes 754 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,521 are marching across Europe, causing 755 00:37:35,621 --> 00:37:38,457 havoc, destruction, and death. 756 00:37:38,557 --> 00:37:40,526 ROBERT STACK: Hitler's armies were threatening to overrun 757 00:37:40,626 --> 00:37:41,727 the globe. 758 00:37:41,827 --> 00:37:43,395 The new principal at the boarding school 759 00:37:43,495 --> 00:37:47,165 was actively interventionist, and Helen Rose became swept 760 00:37:47,265 --> 00:37:49,768 up in the anti-fascist fervor. 761 00:37:49,868 --> 00:37:52,137 You know I've talked to you about joining the reserves. 762 00:37:52,237 --> 00:37:55,874 This is your opportunity to join the world that really matters. 763 00:37:55,974 --> 00:37:57,443 ANGUS MERRICK: He was teaching them 764 00:37:57,543 --> 00:38:02,581 the role of the other society, and I presume that that's 765 00:38:02,681 --> 00:38:08,954 where Helen got her idea to better her life 766 00:38:09,054 --> 00:38:16,795 with the outside world, and to join the air force. 767 00:38:16,895 --> 00:38:19,197 ROBERT STACK: Helen Rose dropped out of high school. 768 00:38:19,297 --> 00:38:21,800 In an unprecedented move for an Ojibwe woman, 769 00:38:21,900 --> 00:38:24,936 she'd listed in the Royal Canadian Air Force. 770 00:38:25,036 --> 00:38:27,639 When they discovered that Helen Rose was underage, 771 00:38:27,739 --> 00:38:30,842 the Air Force ordered her to obtain her father's permission. 772 00:38:36,515 --> 00:38:39,818 Helen Rose returned to the reservation in July. 773 00:38:39,918 --> 00:38:42,688 As a tribal elder, Archie Myran was helping preside 774 00:38:42,788 --> 00:38:44,923 over the annual [inaudible] thirsting dance, 775 00:38:45,023 --> 00:38:47,726 when the plains Ojibwe erect traditional structures 776 00:38:47,826 --> 00:38:50,729 and offer prayers to the Great Spirit. 777 00:38:50,829 --> 00:38:52,364 What is it you want to talk to me about? 778 00:38:52,464 --> 00:38:53,699 I would like for you to sign-- 779 00:38:53,799 --> 00:38:56,301 JEAN MEECHES: She had papers, and she asked 780 00:38:56,402 --> 00:38:58,504 my dad to sign those papers. 781 00:38:58,604 --> 00:39:00,005 What is this paper? 782 00:39:00,105 --> 00:39:02,974 It's to join the Canadian armed forces. 783 00:39:03,074 --> 00:39:04,175 I don't think I want you to join 784 00:39:04,275 --> 00:39:05,477 the Air Force, my daughter. 785 00:39:05,577 --> 00:39:06,578 Why not? 786 00:39:06,678 --> 00:39:08,780 JEAN MEECHES: And he told her, that I don't 787 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,917 want you to die someplace else. 788 00:39:12,017 --> 00:39:15,487 If you go to war, you may not come back. 789 00:39:15,587 --> 00:39:20,992 So he didn't sign those papers, and Helen Rose got mad. 790 00:39:21,092 --> 00:39:23,629 Said you'll never see me again. 791 00:39:23,729 --> 00:39:27,533 I'll get someone else to sign for me or something. 792 00:39:27,633 --> 00:39:29,568 ANGUS MERRICK: Friends and relatives 793 00:39:29,668 --> 00:39:35,340 who would have been proud to see Helen in the Air Force. 794 00:39:35,441 --> 00:39:39,511 I often think now, if he had consented 795 00:39:39,611 --> 00:39:44,249 to signing his name on there, this 796 00:39:44,349 --> 00:39:46,184 would have been far different. 797 00:39:46,284 --> 00:39:49,855 We would have-- I'm sure that we would have had Helen Rose 798 00:39:49,955 --> 00:39:53,091 with us here all this time yet. 799 00:39:56,361 --> 00:39:59,164 ROBERT STACK: Helen Rose did not return to her father's cabin. 800 00:39:59,264 --> 00:40:00,966 She spent the night with an aunt. 801 00:40:01,066 --> 00:40:05,403 The next morning she said her last goodbyes. 802 00:40:05,504 --> 00:40:08,574 You take care of yourself, and I'm going to miss you. 803 00:40:08,674 --> 00:40:10,308 Yeah, I'm going to miss you, too. 804 00:40:10,408 --> 00:40:15,046 ANGUS MERRICK: When she was leaving her auntie's place, 805 00:40:15,146 --> 00:40:17,916 she told her auntie well, I'm leaving now, 806 00:40:18,016 --> 00:40:19,685 and you'll never see me again. 807 00:40:19,785 --> 00:40:23,321 I'm not ever coming back. 808 00:40:23,421 --> 00:40:25,356 Well, take care, OK? 809 00:40:25,457 --> 00:40:28,126 ANGUS MERRICK: She was very disappointed. 810 00:40:28,226 --> 00:40:32,230 She wasn't actually mad, but she was disappointed why 811 00:40:32,330 --> 00:40:34,533 she didn't get that signature. 812 00:40:43,509 --> 00:40:44,843 ROBERT STACK: Two years later, Helen Rose 813 00:40:44,943 --> 00:40:46,311 did return to the area. 814 00:40:46,411 --> 00:40:47,779 And where are you stationed, miss? 815 00:40:47,879 --> 00:40:50,516 ROBERT STACK: When Angus Merrick walked into the general store 816 00:40:50,616 --> 00:40:53,351 15 miles from the reservation, he was shocked 817 00:40:53,451 --> 00:40:55,587 to see his sister-in-law. 818 00:40:55,687 --> 00:40:56,955 Helen Rose! 819 00:40:57,055 --> 00:40:57,856 Angus! 820 00:40:57,956 --> 00:40:59,357 It's-- nice to see. 821 00:40:59,457 --> 00:41:00,559 Helen Rose, how you been doing? 822 00:41:00,659 --> 00:41:01,793 Oh, I'm fine. 823 00:41:01,893 --> 00:41:03,595 ANGUS MERRICK: She had her uniform on, 824 00:41:03,695 --> 00:41:05,363 and oh, she looked good. 825 00:41:05,463 --> 00:41:06,532 Thank you. 826 00:41:06,632 --> 00:41:07,666 ANGUS MERRICK: I said you father's 827 00:41:07,766 --> 00:41:09,300 just across the street, here. 828 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,136 I'll go and get him. 829 00:41:11,236 --> 00:41:13,471 He'll maybe want to see you, too. 830 00:41:13,572 --> 00:41:14,706 I'll be right back, OK? 831 00:41:14,806 --> 00:41:17,408 Just-- it won't take long. 832 00:41:17,509 --> 00:41:23,081 So I went over and told Archie that his daughter Helen was 833 00:41:23,181 --> 00:41:26,518 there, and asked him, if he-- 834 00:41:26,618 --> 00:41:27,619 would you like to come? 835 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,988 And without hesitation, he came right away. 836 00:41:36,695 --> 00:41:39,698 By the time we got to the store, I couldn't find Helen. 837 00:41:39,798 --> 00:41:40,566 She disappeared. 838 00:41:44,335 --> 00:41:45,136 She was here. 839 00:41:53,244 --> 00:41:55,246 ROBERT STACK: 16 years later, Archie Myran 840 00:41:55,346 --> 00:41:57,549 died without ever having made peace 841 00:41:57,649 --> 00:41:58,650 with his youngest daughter. 842 00:42:04,055 --> 00:42:06,391 Each year, Archie Myran's family gathers 843 00:42:06,491 --> 00:42:08,727 at the cemetery to honor the entire Myran 844 00:42:08,827 --> 00:42:11,462 clan with an Ojibwe ceremony. 845 00:42:11,563 --> 00:42:15,466 The extended family now numbers 150, and still they long 846 00:42:15,567 --> 00:42:16,968 for the return of Helen Rose. 847 00:42:20,171 --> 00:42:23,441 Even if she is passed away, her family wants to know, 848 00:42:23,541 --> 00:42:26,344 so that Helen Rose's spirit can be honored in accordance 849 00:42:26,444 --> 00:42:28,246 with the Ojibwe tradition. 850 00:42:32,618 --> 00:42:35,220 JEAN MEECHES: I don't know what's keeping her away. 851 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:39,457 Surely she cannot hold a grudge this long. 852 00:42:39,557 --> 00:42:44,395 We have no part in it, it was between her and my dad. 853 00:42:44,495 --> 00:42:46,632 Not us. 854 00:42:46,732 --> 00:42:50,135 She said she wasn't going to come back, 855 00:42:50,235 --> 00:42:53,371 and she has stuck to her word, true. 856 00:42:53,471 --> 00:42:56,975 Like a real Indian woman. 857 00:43:18,864 --> 00:43:24,435 Join me next week for another edition of Unsolved Mysteries. 68431

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