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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,534 --> 00:00:03,604 [music playing] 2 00:00:04,972 --> 00:00:07,408 ANNOUNCER: This program is about unsolved mysteries. 3 00:00:07,508 --> 00:00:09,410 Whenever possible, the actual family members 4 00:00:09,510 --> 00:00:11,379 and police officials have participated 5 00:00:11,479 --> 00:00:13,013 in recreating the events. 6 00:00:13,114 --> 00:00:15,316 What you are about to see is not a news broadcast. 7 00:00:18,219 --> 00:00:20,454 [music playing] 8 00:00:20,554 --> 00:00:22,223 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): An unknown killer stalks 9 00:00:22,323 --> 00:00:24,392 a family in Denver, Colorado. 10 00:00:24,492 --> 00:00:27,128 In 1985, Roger Dean was gunned down 11 00:00:27,228 --> 00:00:29,363 in cold blood in his own house. 12 00:00:29,463 --> 00:00:32,466 Five years later, the killer contacted Dean's widow 13 00:00:32,566 --> 00:00:34,568 and threatened to kill her daughter, unless he 14 00:00:34,668 --> 00:00:37,538 was paid extortion money. 15 00:00:37,638 --> 00:00:41,242 December 7th, 1941, the Japanese sneak attack 16 00:00:41,342 --> 00:00:43,511 devastates Pearl Harbor. 17 00:00:43,611 --> 00:00:46,380 Nearly 40 years later, a woman under hypnosis 18 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:48,449 provided a detailed firsthand account 19 00:00:48,549 --> 00:00:50,951 of that infamous day, which occurred a full 10 20 00:00:51,051 --> 00:00:54,522 years before she was born. 21 00:00:54,622 --> 00:00:57,125 In Las Vegas, an eccentric, beautiful con artist 22 00:00:57,225 --> 00:01:00,561 named Liza Montgomery went on a wild two-day Christmas shopping 23 00:01:00,661 --> 00:01:04,798 spree and gobbled up $150,000 worth of jewelry, 24 00:01:04,898 --> 00:01:08,068 furs, and other luxury items. 25 00:01:08,169 --> 00:01:09,403 Join me. 26 00:01:09,503 --> 00:01:12,406 Perhaps you may be able to help solve a mystery. 27 00:01:12,506 --> 00:01:16,410 [theme music] 28 00:02:03,491 --> 00:02:10,531 December 7th, 1941, 7:38 AM, Pearl Harbor, Hawaii-- 29 00:02:10,631 --> 00:02:12,566 for those who were there and survived, 30 00:02:12,666 --> 00:02:15,636 it was, indeed, a day that will live in infamy. 31 00:02:15,736 --> 00:02:17,571 Their memories are as vivid today 32 00:02:17,671 --> 00:02:19,273 as they were 50 years ago. 33 00:02:22,310 --> 00:02:23,211 SHARON JOHNSON: There's smoke. 34 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:27,648 I don't want to die. 35 00:02:31,685 --> 00:02:33,587 Those aren't our planes. 36 00:02:33,687 --> 00:02:36,524 They're firing at us. 37 00:02:36,624 --> 00:02:38,492 They just keep coming. 38 00:02:38,592 --> 00:02:41,962 I've got to get a gun. 39 00:02:42,062 --> 00:02:45,399 I've got to get a gun. 40 00:02:45,499 --> 00:02:48,369 There's no ammunition. 41 00:02:48,469 --> 00:02:53,307 We don't have any ammunition. 42 00:02:53,407 --> 00:02:56,644 They're just bombing everybody. 43 00:02:56,744 --> 00:02:57,945 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The narrative 44 00:02:58,045 --> 00:03:02,149 you just heard was related by a woman under hypnosis. 45 00:03:02,250 --> 00:03:06,119 She was born in 1952, 11 years after the attack 46 00:03:06,220 --> 00:03:07,020 on Pearl Harbor. 47 00:03:11,292 --> 00:03:13,394 The woman claims no more than a passing knowledge 48 00:03:13,494 --> 00:03:16,697 of the events of that fateful Sunday morning, yet much 49 00:03:16,797 --> 00:03:19,400 of her account is filled with specific names and details, 50 00:03:19,500 --> 00:03:21,302 which lead some to believe that she was actually 51 00:03:21,402 --> 00:03:23,437 present during the attack-- 52 00:03:23,537 --> 00:03:25,706 in a past life. 53 00:03:25,806 --> 00:03:27,775 Others, however, are convinced that her memories 54 00:03:27,875 --> 00:03:31,345 are no more than a byproduct of hypnotic suggestion. 55 00:03:31,445 --> 00:03:33,146 In either case, the details of the story 56 00:03:33,247 --> 00:03:35,649 defy logical explanation. 57 00:03:35,749 --> 00:03:38,286 The woman at the center of this baffling mystery of the mind 58 00:03:38,386 --> 00:03:40,321 has asked to remain anonymous. 59 00:03:40,421 --> 00:03:43,123 We shall call her Sharon Johnson. 60 00:03:43,223 --> 00:03:47,361 Step right this way [inaudible], please. 61 00:03:47,461 --> 00:03:49,897 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In 1979, Sharon Johnson 62 00:03:49,997 --> 00:03:52,633 first visited hypnotherapist, Frank Baranowski, 63 00:03:52,733 --> 00:03:55,803 because she wanted help losing weight. 64 00:03:55,903 --> 00:03:58,972 In 20 years of practice, Baranowski has placed thousands 65 00:03:59,072 --> 00:04:01,575 of patients under hypnosis. 66 00:04:01,675 --> 00:04:02,843 Ever been hypnotized before? 67 00:04:02,943 --> 00:04:04,144 No. 68 00:04:04,244 --> 00:04:05,579 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): When Sharon was hypnotized, 69 00:04:05,679 --> 00:04:07,448 she began to experience a recurring 70 00:04:07,548 --> 00:04:09,683 nightmare of smoke and fire, which had 71 00:04:09,783 --> 00:04:12,353 plagued her since childhood. 72 00:04:12,453 --> 00:04:13,821 Three, four. 73 00:04:13,921 --> 00:04:15,789 You're four years old now, Sharon. 74 00:04:15,889 --> 00:04:21,729 [coughing] The water's on fire. 75 00:04:21,829 --> 00:04:24,532 Water's burning. 76 00:04:24,632 --> 00:04:26,500 [coughing] 77 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,035 All right, Sharon. All right, all right. 78 00:04:28,135 --> 00:04:29,503 Relax. Relax. 79 00:04:29,603 --> 00:04:30,538 Deeper relax now. 80 00:04:30,638 --> 00:04:31,905 SHARON JOHNSON: I don't have dreams 81 00:04:32,005 --> 00:04:36,477 like that as much as I used to-- you know, just periodically. 82 00:04:36,577 --> 00:04:38,879 The dreams started when I was very small. 83 00:04:38,979 --> 00:04:40,881 I always remember having the dreams 84 00:04:40,981 --> 00:04:42,750 about fires and explosions. 85 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:48,756 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Sharon lost 30 pounds, 86 00:04:48,856 --> 00:04:51,925 but the dream remained unexplained. 87 00:04:52,025 --> 00:04:54,127 Six months later, she visited Hawaii 88 00:04:54,227 --> 00:04:56,229 for the first time on a group tour 89 00:04:56,330 --> 00:04:58,499 with Frank Baranowski and some of his friends. 90 00:05:01,369 --> 00:05:03,337 SHARON JOHNSON: It was strange when I was there, because there 91 00:05:03,437 --> 00:05:06,974 were places that I went to when I was there that it was 92 00:05:07,074 --> 00:05:08,275 like, I've been here before. 93 00:05:08,376 --> 00:05:09,643 I've seen this. 94 00:05:09,743 --> 00:05:15,716 I knew where things were that I couldn't have known about. 95 00:05:15,816 --> 00:05:17,050 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Sharon's visit 96 00:05:17,150 --> 00:05:18,986 to the Battleship Arizona Memorial 97 00:05:19,086 --> 00:05:21,622 at Pearl Harbor triggered the same anxiety 98 00:05:21,722 --> 00:05:23,957 as her recurring nightmare. 99 00:05:24,057 --> 00:05:25,826 She returned to her hotel room and asked 100 00:05:25,926 --> 00:05:28,161 Frank to hypnotize her. 101 00:05:28,261 --> 00:05:31,665 During this session, Sharon began to speak as never before, 102 00:05:31,765 --> 00:05:34,034 and a new persona emerged. 103 00:05:34,134 --> 00:05:36,870 His name was John Gillespie. 104 00:05:36,970 --> 00:05:37,938 FRANK BARANOWSKI: OK. 105 00:05:38,038 --> 00:05:39,172 So we take her to the time [inaudible]. 106 00:05:39,272 --> 00:05:40,474 She's Sharon Johnson. 107 00:05:40,574 --> 00:05:43,777 We go back to age 12, age 10, age five, down to birth, 108 00:05:43,877 --> 00:05:45,779 and then I ask her to start recalling 109 00:05:45,879 --> 00:05:46,914 something that happened. 110 00:05:47,014 --> 00:05:48,749 I said, when I reach the count of 12, 111 00:05:48,849 --> 00:05:51,685 you'll be in the 12th season of your life. 112 00:05:51,785 --> 00:05:52,686 OK? 113 00:05:52,786 --> 00:05:54,755 And suddenly, when she's there, she's 114 00:05:54,855 --> 00:05:56,757 talking like a 12-year-old. What's your name? 115 00:05:56,857 --> 00:05:58,058 John. 116 00:05:58,158 --> 00:05:59,359 John Gillespie. 117 00:05:59,460 --> 00:06:00,628 I'm a junior. 118 00:06:00,728 --> 00:06:01,529 Oh. 119 00:06:01,629 --> 00:06:02,430 Where you at? 120 00:06:02,530 --> 00:06:03,697 On the farm. 121 00:06:03,797 --> 00:06:04,598 What farm? 122 00:06:04,698 --> 00:06:05,599 I says, where you at? 123 00:06:05,699 --> 00:06:06,500 She says, what? 124 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:07,668 This is Omaha. 125 00:06:07,768 --> 00:06:08,569 Omaha? 126 00:06:08,669 --> 00:06:09,470 Yeah. 127 00:06:09,570 --> 00:06:12,072 Well, Omaha, Nebraska. 128 00:06:12,172 --> 00:06:14,174 [inaudible]. 129 00:06:14,274 --> 00:06:15,876 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): As the session continued, 130 00:06:15,976 --> 00:06:18,779 a chilling account of the surprised Japanese attack 131 00:06:18,879 --> 00:06:20,013 began to emerge. 132 00:06:20,113 --> 00:06:23,484 [coughing] There's bombs dropping everywhere. 133 00:06:23,584 --> 00:06:24,952 They're everywhere. 134 00:06:25,052 --> 00:06:26,186 These planes everywhere. 135 00:06:26,286 --> 00:06:27,921 They bomb us with it too. 136 00:06:32,225 --> 00:06:33,494 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In the account, 137 00:06:33,594 --> 00:06:35,896 several men were named, who were on board the Nevada 138 00:06:35,996 --> 00:06:37,931 at the time of the attack. 139 00:06:38,031 --> 00:06:41,268 Among them, a Captain Stanley, a Paymaster Cooper, 140 00:06:41,368 --> 00:06:42,536 and [inaudible]. 141 00:06:42,636 --> 00:06:44,071 Don't worry about me! 142 00:06:44,171 --> 00:06:45,272 Take a forward. 143 00:06:45,372 --> 00:06:47,274 Secure the main gun! 144 00:06:47,374 --> 00:06:48,776 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In Sharon's memory, 145 00:06:48,876 --> 00:06:51,044 Tosic was particularly prominent. 146 00:06:51,144 --> 00:06:54,247 He was apparently the son of an admiral and was badly injured. 147 00:07:02,656 --> 00:07:05,192 A few minutes later, the story came to an abrupt end. 148 00:07:10,964 --> 00:07:13,266 With great pain, Sharon realized that John 149 00:07:13,366 --> 00:07:16,369 Gillespie had been killed. 150 00:07:16,470 --> 00:07:18,639 Very good. 151 00:07:18,739 --> 00:07:20,340 Deeper relax for me. 152 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:21,875 SHARON JOHNSON: Up to that point, 153 00:07:21,975 --> 00:07:26,379 I had not had a past life regression. 154 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,016 I wanted to know more about what had happened 155 00:07:29,116 --> 00:07:31,218 and who the person was that I felt 156 00:07:31,318 --> 00:07:35,656 I was in this traumatic experience I had just had. 157 00:07:35,756 --> 00:07:36,657 What about your grandfather? 158 00:07:36,757 --> 00:07:38,058 What's your name? 159 00:07:38,158 --> 00:07:40,027 We call him Red. 160 00:07:40,127 --> 00:07:41,729 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Over the next few months, 161 00:07:41,829 --> 00:07:45,533 Sharon underwent progressive hypnosis 20 more times. 162 00:07:45,633 --> 00:07:47,835 Frank recorded the details of these sessions 163 00:07:47,935 --> 00:07:50,771 and then set out to see if the story of John Gillespie 164 00:07:50,871 --> 00:07:53,774 could be documented. 165 00:07:53,874 --> 00:07:57,611 In one hypnosis session, Sharon, speaking as John Gillespie, 166 00:07:57,711 --> 00:08:01,815 listed the names of nine men serving on the USS Nevada. 167 00:08:01,915 --> 00:08:04,284 She also gave John Gillespie's serial number. 168 00:08:07,220 --> 00:08:10,190 Frank Baranowski turned to the office of Congressman John 169 00:08:10,290 --> 00:08:11,559 Rhodes for help. - Good morning, Frank. 170 00:08:11,659 --> 00:08:12,826 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Bob Scanlon, 171 00:08:12,926 --> 00:08:16,697 senior aide to the congressman, was assigned the case. 172 00:08:16,797 --> 00:08:17,831 Thank you. 173 00:08:17,931 --> 00:08:19,332 ROBERT SCANLON: When he first asked for our help 174 00:08:19,432 --> 00:08:23,270 and briefed me on the problem, I was pretty skeptical. 175 00:08:23,370 --> 00:08:26,139 I thought, you know, we got a lot of strange requests, 176 00:08:26,239 --> 00:08:28,909 and this has to be one of the strangest. 177 00:08:29,009 --> 00:08:31,645 I know it's rather incredible, but she gives me names, 178 00:08:31,745 --> 00:08:33,480 dates, and places of people. 179 00:08:33,581 --> 00:08:35,148 I have no way of checking. Here. 180 00:08:35,248 --> 00:08:36,416 ROBERT SCANLON: When I heard the story 181 00:08:36,516 --> 00:08:38,719 and listened to the tapes, I figured 182 00:08:38,819 --> 00:08:40,754 that our office in Washington certainly 183 00:08:40,854 --> 00:08:43,356 should be able to get into Naval archives 184 00:08:43,456 --> 00:08:48,361 and either prove or disprove what this young lady had said. 185 00:08:48,461 --> 00:08:50,297 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Using congressional privileges, 186 00:08:50,397 --> 00:08:52,933 Scanlon obtained the Nevada's roster of officers 187 00:08:53,033 --> 00:08:55,102 from the National Archives in Washington, DC. 188 00:08:58,105 --> 00:09:01,742 Amazingly, eight of the nine men Sharon mentioned were listed. 189 00:09:04,411 --> 00:09:07,848 I remember when I received that and first read it, 190 00:09:07,948 --> 00:09:10,217 I told my secretary that I don't know whether to point 191 00:09:10,317 --> 00:09:11,952 with pride or view with alarm. 192 00:09:12,052 --> 00:09:16,423 This was a strange result that I really didn't expect. 193 00:09:16,523 --> 00:09:18,158 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): However, the Ensign Tosic, 194 00:09:18,258 --> 00:09:19,693 who would play such a prominent part 195 00:09:19,793 --> 00:09:24,865 in Sharon's past life memory, was not included on the list. 196 00:09:24,965 --> 00:09:29,269 Ensign Tosic was originally shown in all Naval records 197 00:09:29,369 --> 00:09:31,071 to have been in Long Beach, California 198 00:09:31,171 --> 00:09:34,074 the morning of the attack on Pearl Harbor, 199 00:09:34,174 --> 00:09:36,777 when, in fact, he was on board the Nevada 200 00:09:36,877 --> 00:09:41,181 and was tragically injured that morning. 201 00:09:41,281 --> 00:09:43,817 In fact, I think, as we found later, 202 00:09:43,917 --> 00:09:46,519 he lost a leg due to the attack on Pearl Harbor. 203 00:09:48,856 --> 00:09:50,290 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): "Unsolved Mysteries" 204 00:09:50,390 --> 00:09:52,860 contacted Robert Tosic, a former ensign 205 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,995 in the United States Navy. 206 00:09:55,095 --> 00:09:58,231 Tosic declined to be interviewed on camera, but incredibly, 207 00:09:58,331 --> 00:10:02,002 confirmed many details of Sharon's account. 208 00:10:02,102 --> 00:10:04,437 He was on board the Nevada that day 209 00:10:04,537 --> 00:10:09,509 and, in fact, had to have his leg amputated. 210 00:10:09,609 --> 00:10:11,611 The name, John Gillespie, does not appear 211 00:10:11,712 --> 00:10:12,880 on any of the ship's rosters. 212 00:10:15,883 --> 00:10:17,818 FRANK BARANOWSKI: The Navy admits the only records 213 00:10:17,918 --> 00:10:19,286 that they carried were the paymaster's 214 00:10:19,386 --> 00:10:20,587 records onboard that ship. 215 00:10:20,688 --> 00:10:23,924 The fires raged incessantly for two days. 216 00:10:24,024 --> 00:10:26,493 All of that was destroyed. 217 00:10:26,593 --> 00:10:27,861 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Fire would also 218 00:10:27,961 --> 00:10:30,497 frustrate any attempt to verify the serial number 219 00:10:30,597 --> 00:10:32,499 of John Gillespie. 220 00:10:32,599 --> 00:10:36,937 In 1973, flames ravaged a Naval warehouse in St. Louis, 221 00:10:37,037 --> 00:10:39,606 destroying the service records of thousands of seamen 222 00:10:39,707 --> 00:10:42,409 from World War II. 223 00:10:42,509 --> 00:10:44,144 How about your grandmother? 224 00:10:44,244 --> 00:10:45,846 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Sharon's past life memory 225 00:10:45,946 --> 00:10:50,283 also included information about John Gillespie's personal life. 226 00:10:50,383 --> 00:10:54,354 Under hypnosis, she stated that he was born in 1921 in Omaha, 227 00:10:54,454 --> 00:10:58,291 Nebraska, the son of John Gillespie, Sr. and grandson 228 00:10:58,391 --> 00:11:00,961 of Harry Gillespie. 229 00:11:01,061 --> 00:11:03,697 In census records from 1899, Frank 230 00:11:03,797 --> 00:11:08,501 found what he believes is proof that John Gillespie did exist. 231 00:11:08,601 --> 00:11:10,137 FRANK BARANOWSKI: When we came across this frame, 232 00:11:10,237 --> 00:11:11,471 we found it-- 233 00:11:11,571 --> 00:11:16,643 Harry Gillespie, wife, Ida Mae, son, Benjamin, son, John. 234 00:11:16,744 --> 00:11:20,247 And that John was John Gillespie's father. 235 00:11:20,347 --> 00:11:22,115 And he would have been 24 years old when John was 236 00:11:22,215 --> 00:11:25,252 born, exactly the right age. 237 00:11:25,352 --> 00:11:26,987 Yes, you can read about Nebraska. 238 00:11:27,087 --> 00:11:28,688 You can read about the farmland. 239 00:11:28,789 --> 00:11:31,691 You can read about Omaha and Lincoln and all 240 00:11:31,792 --> 00:11:34,294 of those places, but unless you have 241 00:11:34,394 --> 00:11:35,595 experienced something, then where 242 00:11:35,695 --> 00:11:39,099 do you get specific names, specific places? 243 00:11:39,199 --> 00:11:40,033 I mean your history-- 244 00:11:40,133 --> 00:11:41,201 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): How valid 245 00:11:41,301 --> 00:11:44,137 are Sharon's so-called past life experiences? 246 00:11:44,237 --> 00:11:46,173 At least one expert feels that Sharon 247 00:11:46,273 --> 00:11:49,176 may have absorbed the tales from books from the power 248 00:11:49,276 --> 00:11:50,710 of hypnotic suggestion. 249 00:11:53,580 --> 00:11:55,548 Well, the information about Tosic 250 00:11:55,648 --> 00:12:01,188 is easily available to anyone who looks for it 251 00:12:01,288 --> 00:12:05,158 in a book that tells a story. 252 00:12:05,258 --> 00:12:09,562 The events at Pearl Harbor have probably 253 00:12:09,662 --> 00:12:14,968 been as written about as any incident in this century. 254 00:12:15,068 --> 00:12:17,537 No, she never did any reading about Pearl Harbor. 255 00:12:17,637 --> 00:12:20,240 It was one of those things that she just didn't care for. 256 00:12:20,340 --> 00:12:21,775 When somebody would mention it, she would just 257 00:12:21,875 --> 00:12:23,777 shudder and just walk away. 258 00:12:23,877 --> 00:12:29,749 He asks leading questions of his subjects. 259 00:12:29,850 --> 00:12:34,754 He seems to take control of the regression, 260 00:12:34,855 --> 00:12:40,093 rather than allowing the person involved to be in control 261 00:12:40,193 --> 00:12:42,930 and to volunteer information. 262 00:12:45,665 --> 00:12:47,634 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In an attempt to refute the critics, 263 00:12:47,734 --> 00:12:50,603 both Frank and Sharon agreed to undergo polygraph tests 264 00:12:50,703 --> 00:12:53,373 with Glen Whiteside, a polygraph examiner 265 00:12:53,473 --> 00:12:58,778 for 20 years, who has been board certified in four states. 266 00:12:58,879 --> 00:13:02,082 GLEN WHITESIDE: In my opinion, Sharon and Frank absolutely 267 00:13:02,182 --> 00:13:05,152 are not conducting a hoax. 268 00:13:05,252 --> 00:13:07,320 They did not get their information out 269 00:13:07,420 --> 00:13:09,589 of records books. 270 00:13:09,689 --> 00:13:17,497 They are not using mind conditioning 271 00:13:17,597 --> 00:13:19,466 or hypnotic suggestion. 272 00:13:19,566 --> 00:13:23,070 They are not perpetrating a hoax in any way. 273 00:13:23,170 --> 00:13:24,437 Any place else? 274 00:13:24,537 --> 00:13:26,039 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Under hypnosis, Sharon 275 00:13:26,139 --> 00:13:28,876 revealed that John Gillespie had a Hawaiian girlfriend named 276 00:13:28,976 --> 00:13:30,310 Sugar. 277 00:13:30,410 --> 00:13:33,580 This composite was made from Sharon's description. 278 00:13:33,680 --> 00:13:36,850 John met Sugar while he was stationed at Pearl Harbor. 279 00:13:36,950 --> 00:13:40,187 If she exists, Sugar would today be 70 years old. 280 00:13:43,823 --> 00:13:45,959 For most of us, the incredible facts of this story 281 00:13:46,059 --> 00:13:48,195 seem hard to accept. 282 00:13:48,295 --> 00:13:50,998 How could a woman living today have such vivid memories 283 00:13:51,098 --> 00:13:55,602 of someone else's life and death at Pearl Harbor 50 years ago? 284 00:13:55,702 --> 00:13:58,038 Is there any way to prove the details of Sharon's account 285 00:13:58,138 --> 00:14:00,207 beyond a shadow of a doubt? 286 00:14:00,307 --> 00:14:01,741 Probably not. 287 00:14:01,841 --> 00:14:04,011 But for believers, there is no need to. 288 00:14:07,647 --> 00:14:08,882 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Next, a killer 289 00:14:08,982 --> 00:14:12,452 has returned to torment the family of the man he murdered. 290 00:14:12,552 --> 00:14:16,323 [music playing] 291 00:14:25,665 --> 00:14:27,935 Littleton, Colorado is an affluent suburb 292 00:14:28,035 --> 00:14:29,836 15 miles from Denver. 293 00:14:29,937 --> 00:14:31,738 Its residents are, for the most part, 294 00:14:31,838 --> 00:14:35,208 business and professional people. 295 00:14:35,308 --> 00:14:37,210 Roger Dean was typical. 296 00:14:37,310 --> 00:14:43,350 He and his wife, DJ, had lived in Littleton for 15 years. 297 00:14:43,450 --> 00:14:46,886 November 21st, 1985, seemed like an ordinary Wednesday 298 00:14:46,987 --> 00:14:49,990 morning, except for the car nobody recognized 299 00:14:50,090 --> 00:14:53,126 parked outside the Dean home. 300 00:14:53,226 --> 00:14:55,895 Some remembered it as a '68 Pontiac, others 301 00:14:55,996 --> 00:14:58,098 as a '76 Oldsmobile. 302 00:14:58,198 --> 00:15:00,333 But all agreed on one thing. 303 00:15:00,433 --> 00:15:04,504 They had never before seen the lone man who sat inside. 304 00:15:04,604 --> 00:15:07,307 At the time, they thought nothing of it. 305 00:15:07,407 --> 00:15:12,079 But at the time, Roger Dean was still alive. 306 00:15:12,179 --> 00:15:14,081 ROGER DEAN: DJ, come out here. 307 00:15:14,181 --> 00:15:15,882 DJ DEAN: I'm in the tub, Roger. 308 00:15:15,983 --> 00:15:17,784 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): At approximately 7:00 AM, 309 00:15:17,884 --> 00:15:20,887 Roger Dean called his wife, DJ, into the bedroom. 310 00:15:20,988 --> 00:15:22,990 J, come out here. 311 00:15:23,090 --> 00:15:24,191 What is it, Roger? 312 00:15:24,291 --> 00:15:25,158 All right, lady. 313 00:15:25,258 --> 00:15:26,893 Shut up and get on the bed. - Oh! 314 00:15:26,994 --> 00:15:27,860 Shut up. 315 00:15:27,961 --> 00:15:28,761 Get on the bed. 316 00:15:28,861 --> 00:15:29,662 Shut up. 317 00:15:29,762 --> 00:15:30,897 Get down. 318 00:15:30,998 --> 00:15:32,332 Tie her hands. 319 00:15:32,432 --> 00:15:37,104 A masked intruder forced Roger to tie and blindfold DJ. 320 00:15:37,204 --> 00:15:38,738 Then he took Roger into another room. 321 00:15:41,541 --> 00:15:44,011 As DJ lay bound helplessly on her bed, 322 00:15:44,111 --> 00:15:46,246 she could hear Roger and the gunman talking, 323 00:15:46,346 --> 00:15:47,981 but she could not tell what they were saying. 324 00:15:51,751 --> 00:15:52,986 You had enough time to think about it? 325 00:15:53,086 --> 00:15:55,088 How much money have you got in the savings account? 326 00:15:55,188 --> 00:15:56,323 I don't know. 327 00:15:56,423 --> 00:15:58,658 How much money have you got in your savings account? 328 00:15:58,758 --> 00:16:00,027 I don't know. 329 00:16:00,127 --> 00:16:02,862 [crying] 330 00:16:04,131 --> 00:16:04,998 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): DJ heard the gunman 331 00:16:05,098 --> 00:16:07,667 rifling through drawers. 332 00:16:07,767 --> 00:16:09,936 Then a loud noise made him bolt from the room. 333 00:16:13,473 --> 00:16:14,607 ROGER DEAN: I don't owe you any money. 334 00:16:14,707 --> 00:16:15,975 How much money do you in your account? 335 00:16:16,076 --> 00:16:16,909 I have $30,000. 336 00:16:17,010 --> 00:16:19,079 I want it, and I want it now. 337 00:16:19,179 --> 00:16:20,380 It's not here. 338 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:21,714 All right, we're going to the bank. 339 00:16:21,814 --> 00:16:22,682 Let's go. 340 00:16:22,782 --> 00:16:23,583 All right, I'll give you the money. 341 00:16:23,683 --> 00:16:25,418 Go! 342 00:16:25,518 --> 00:16:28,221 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Suddenly, the gunman fired. 343 00:16:28,321 --> 00:16:32,992 The bullet ricocheted, striking Roger Dean in the arm. 344 00:16:33,093 --> 00:16:35,328 At the front door, he fired again, five 345 00:16:35,428 --> 00:16:37,230 times at point blank range. 346 00:16:45,472 --> 00:16:50,377 Roger Dean died before paramedics could be summoned. 347 00:16:50,477 --> 00:16:52,812 DJ DEAN: After I started hearing the gunshots, 348 00:16:52,912 --> 00:16:58,185 I made my way down the steps, and I did get outside. 349 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,391 And from there, things are a little blurred. 350 00:17:04,491 --> 00:17:06,759 I think someone that was driving by 351 00:17:06,859 --> 00:17:10,297 must have come by and taken my blindfold off. 352 00:17:10,397 --> 00:17:13,166 I'm really not even sure of that. 353 00:17:13,266 --> 00:17:16,169 I just knew that Rog-- 354 00:17:16,269 --> 00:17:20,640 I saw Rog went over to him, and he was lying in the street. 355 00:17:20,740 --> 00:17:25,312 And then he was taken away, and I was taken to the neighbor's. 356 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,149 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): From the start, 357 00:17:29,249 --> 00:17:32,719 authorities were struck by several oddities in the case. 358 00:17:32,819 --> 00:17:36,256 Roger had twine fiber embedded in only one wrist. 359 00:17:36,356 --> 00:17:37,890 It appeared that Roger had never actually 360 00:17:37,990 --> 00:17:39,726 been tied up by the gunman. 361 00:17:39,826 --> 00:17:42,129 Went on up the street. 362 00:17:42,229 --> 00:17:44,030 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Also, Roger was wearing contact 363 00:17:44,131 --> 00:17:45,465 lenses when he was shot. 364 00:17:45,565 --> 00:17:46,533 Look at these glasses here. 365 00:17:46,633 --> 00:17:47,867 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Yet strangely, 366 00:17:47,967 --> 00:17:50,002 in an upstairs bedroom, his eyeglasses were 367 00:17:50,103 --> 00:17:53,406 found covered with duct tape. 368 00:17:53,506 --> 00:17:56,176 Police began to theorize that the twine and the glasses 369 00:17:56,276 --> 00:17:58,378 were both red herrings, planted to give 370 00:17:58,478 --> 00:18:01,281 the impression that Roger had been blindfolded and bound. 371 00:18:03,950 --> 00:18:05,918 ANTHONY SPURLOCK: We believe that Roger hired an individual 372 00:18:06,018 --> 00:18:12,459 to come over to basically kidnap him, take him to his bank, 373 00:18:12,559 --> 00:18:16,629 withdraw $30,000 from their account, 374 00:18:16,729 --> 00:18:20,167 and then obviously, drop Roger off someplace, 375 00:18:20,267 --> 00:18:22,302 so Roger could report a robbery. 376 00:18:22,402 --> 00:18:27,407 And he would have that $30,000 to himself. 377 00:18:27,507 --> 00:18:29,108 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): During the investigation, 378 00:18:29,209 --> 00:18:32,179 two other unusual facts emerged. 379 00:18:32,279 --> 00:18:34,347 In the year prior to his death, Roger Dean 380 00:18:34,447 --> 00:18:37,150 had taken nearly $30,000 from his business 381 00:18:37,250 --> 00:18:39,419 and deposited the money in a private account 382 00:18:39,519 --> 00:18:40,720 unbeknownst to his wife. 383 00:18:44,257 --> 00:18:47,827 Also, on the day of his murder, Roger was seen sipping coffee 384 00:18:47,927 --> 00:18:50,230 in his garage at 7:00 AM. 385 00:18:50,330 --> 00:18:56,236 On most weekdays, Roger left the house no later than 6:15. 386 00:18:56,336 --> 00:18:58,205 ANTHONY SPURLOCK: What we make of that timing 387 00:18:58,305 --> 00:19:01,107 is that he was waiting for this individual 388 00:19:01,208 --> 00:19:03,243 to come and meet him at his house. 389 00:19:03,343 --> 00:19:05,778 We also believe that the individual was probably sitting 390 00:19:05,878 --> 00:19:09,182 in his car when Roger lifted the garage door, which 391 00:19:09,282 --> 00:19:10,617 was the signal for this individual 392 00:19:10,717 --> 00:19:14,887 to get out of his car and walk over to Roger's home. 393 00:19:14,987 --> 00:19:19,492 This is the man that I was married to for 26 years, 394 00:19:19,592 --> 00:19:27,400 and yes, there had been personal problems in the last few years, 395 00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:31,170 especially since the death of our son. 396 00:19:31,271 --> 00:19:34,140 But I knew the man too well. 397 00:19:34,241 --> 00:19:36,476 In my heart, I cannot believe that Roger 398 00:19:36,576 --> 00:19:38,278 had anything to do with this. 399 00:19:42,615 --> 00:19:45,885 Tragedy was not new to DJ Dean. 400 00:19:45,985 --> 00:19:48,120 Two years earlier, her son has been killed 401 00:19:48,221 --> 00:19:50,557 in an automobile accident. 402 00:19:50,657 --> 00:19:52,292 Within a few months, another accident 403 00:19:52,392 --> 00:19:54,761 took the lives of her parents. 404 00:19:54,861 --> 00:19:57,096 DJ and her daughter, Tammy, tried desperately 405 00:19:57,196 --> 00:19:59,198 to rebuild their lives. 406 00:19:59,299 --> 00:20:01,868 Then five years after Roger Dean's murder, 407 00:20:01,968 --> 00:20:04,937 DJ received a chilling anonymous letter. 408 00:20:05,037 --> 00:20:08,074 Its author claimed to be the man who had killed her husband. 409 00:20:11,644 --> 00:20:12,745 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The letter 410 00:20:12,845 --> 00:20:16,082 arrived on July 21st, 1990. 411 00:20:16,182 --> 00:20:19,352 It demanded $100,000. 412 00:20:19,452 --> 00:20:21,754 If Roger's murderer did not get the money, 413 00:20:21,854 --> 00:20:24,090 he planned to kill again. 414 00:20:24,190 --> 00:20:25,758 EXTORTIONIST: Do you know that I met your daughter, 415 00:20:25,858 --> 00:20:28,795 Tammy, on a few occasions? 416 00:20:28,895 --> 00:20:32,899 She is a very attractive blonde and a very good model. 417 00:20:32,999 --> 00:20:35,668 Do not make me kill her. 418 00:20:35,768 --> 00:20:37,003 Your son is dead. 419 00:20:37,103 --> 00:20:38,871 Your husband is dead. 420 00:20:38,971 --> 00:20:40,640 Do not risk your daughter. 421 00:20:40,740 --> 00:20:44,411 She is the last one left. 422 00:20:44,511 --> 00:20:48,381 DJ DEAN: I was in total shock. 423 00:20:48,481 --> 00:20:51,818 I mean this was like something that doesn't happen to you. 424 00:20:51,918 --> 00:20:53,953 This only happens in the movies. 425 00:20:54,053 --> 00:20:55,488 It makes me angry that we had just 426 00:20:55,588 --> 00:20:58,991 started to get on with our lives and put the past in the past, 427 00:20:59,091 --> 00:21:01,294 and it's all brought up to you again. 428 00:21:01,394 --> 00:21:03,095 This person isn't letting us continue, 429 00:21:03,195 --> 00:21:05,932 and we never did anything to deserve this. 430 00:21:08,401 --> 00:21:09,569 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): DJ and Tammy 431 00:21:09,669 --> 00:21:12,672 notified the local authorities and the FBI. 432 00:21:12,772 --> 00:21:16,008 The FBI had no doubt that the extortionist was who he claimed 433 00:21:16,108 --> 00:21:18,678 to be, Roger Dean's killer. 434 00:21:18,778 --> 00:21:21,814 DJ and Tammy were given round the clock protection. 435 00:21:25,051 --> 00:21:26,819 The killer had told DJ that he would 436 00:21:26,919 --> 00:21:30,790 telephone her on July 27, 1990. 437 00:21:30,890 --> 00:21:35,261 FBI agents moved into DJ's home and set up a wiretap operation. 438 00:21:35,362 --> 00:21:37,730 [phone rings] 439 00:21:37,830 --> 00:21:40,867 Wait for the second ring now. 440 00:21:40,967 --> 00:21:42,835 [phone rings] 441 00:21:42,935 --> 00:21:43,870 OK, DJ, pick it up. 442 00:21:46,573 --> 00:21:47,407 Hello? 443 00:21:47,507 --> 00:21:48,608 EXTORTIONIST: Listen. 444 00:21:48,708 --> 00:21:52,111 Your husband owed me money, and I want my money. 445 00:21:52,211 --> 00:21:54,347 If my husband owed you money, I'll pay you what he owed you. 446 00:21:54,447 --> 00:21:56,215 EXTORTIONIST: I want my money. 447 00:21:56,315 --> 00:21:57,417 I'll give it to you. 448 00:21:57,517 --> 00:21:58,751 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The FBI traced the call 449 00:21:58,851 --> 00:21:59,986 to a phone booth in Denver. 450 00:22:00,086 --> 00:22:01,187 All right, I'll call you tomorrow, 451 00:22:01,287 --> 00:22:02,355 and I'll tell you where to take it. 452 00:22:02,455 --> 00:22:03,723 [inaudible] 453 00:22:03,823 --> 00:22:05,458 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): But before they could get there, 454 00:22:05,558 --> 00:22:06,493 the killer had disappeared. 455 00:22:09,429 --> 00:22:12,432 DJ DEAN: I don't believe my husband owed anyone this money, 456 00:22:12,532 --> 00:22:15,702 but that was what he said. 457 00:22:15,802 --> 00:22:19,138 And the phone calls continued and continued and continued. 458 00:22:22,575 --> 00:22:24,444 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): After nearly a dozen phone calls, 459 00:22:24,544 --> 00:22:26,446 the extortionist told DJ to drive 460 00:22:26,546 --> 00:22:28,881 to a supermarket 20 miles north of her home 461 00:22:28,981 --> 00:22:32,819 and wait for further instructions. 462 00:22:32,919 --> 00:22:36,122 OK, DJ, be calm. 463 00:22:36,222 --> 00:22:38,391 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): With an FBI agent hidden in her car 464 00:22:38,491 --> 00:22:41,260 and surveillance trucks and a SWAT team for backup, 465 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:44,497 DJ attempted to lure the killer into a trap. 466 00:22:44,597 --> 00:22:45,398 OFFICER: OK. 467 00:22:45,498 --> 00:22:48,401 She's out of the car. 468 00:22:48,501 --> 00:22:51,604 And she's heading across the parking lot now. 469 00:22:51,704 --> 00:22:53,773 She's headed towards the phone booth. 470 00:22:59,612 --> 00:23:03,950 DJ DEAN: I waited, and I waited, and I waited. 471 00:23:04,050 --> 00:23:06,385 Could not believe I was really having 472 00:23:06,486 --> 00:23:08,054 to go through this terror. 473 00:23:08,154 --> 00:23:11,323 [phone rings] 474 00:23:11,424 --> 00:23:16,128 And then finally, when I did get a call, 475 00:23:16,228 --> 00:23:21,601 I was given instructions as to which streets to take 476 00:23:21,701 --> 00:23:23,102 and where to make the drop. 477 00:23:25,505 --> 00:23:26,806 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The extortionist 478 00:23:26,906 --> 00:23:30,009 told DJ to leave $100,000 in an alley 479 00:23:30,109 --> 00:23:34,647 behind an apartment complex in downtown Denver. 480 00:23:34,747 --> 00:23:39,318 At 10 PM on August 19th, 1990, DJ left the money, 481 00:23:39,418 --> 00:23:41,320 once again shadowed by the FBI. 482 00:23:48,961 --> 00:23:52,231 [phone rings] 483 00:23:53,232 --> 00:23:54,333 Hello? 484 00:23:54,433 --> 00:23:55,802 EXTORTIONIST: You haven't followed instructions. 485 00:23:55,902 --> 00:23:56,703 Yes, we have. 486 00:23:56,803 --> 00:23:57,704 EXTORTIONIST: No, you haven't. 487 00:23:57,804 --> 00:23:59,205 You haven't followed instructions, 488 00:23:59,305 --> 00:24:01,140 and now I'm going to hurt you. 489 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,308 TAMARA DEAN: He called about-- 490 00:24:02,408 --> 00:24:04,877 it seemed like forever, but a couple of hours 491 00:24:04,977 --> 00:24:08,114 later and was using a lot of profanity 492 00:24:08,214 --> 00:24:12,351 and said that she had basically not followed his instructions, 493 00:24:12,451 --> 00:24:15,021 had not done what he had told her to do, 494 00:24:15,121 --> 00:24:20,326 and that now he was going to do what he had said that he 495 00:24:20,426 --> 00:24:22,194 would do to me because of that. 496 00:24:22,294 --> 00:24:25,097 He would hurt me. 497 00:24:25,197 --> 00:24:27,166 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The FBI kept the bundle of cash 498 00:24:27,266 --> 00:24:29,502 under surveillance until dawn. 499 00:24:29,602 --> 00:24:32,138 It was never picked up. 500 00:24:32,238 --> 00:24:35,041 BOB PENCE: Whether or not he spotted something, 501 00:24:35,141 --> 00:24:38,845 whether or not he just took for granted that the law 502 00:24:38,945 --> 00:24:42,248 enforcement was involved, or whether or not he 503 00:24:42,348 --> 00:24:45,585 got cold feet, and although he didn't detect any type of law 504 00:24:45,685 --> 00:24:49,689 enforcement, he just was too scared 505 00:24:49,789 --> 00:24:51,791 to actually make the pickup, I think 506 00:24:51,891 --> 00:24:53,325 all those are possibilities. 507 00:24:53,425 --> 00:24:55,795 When he didn't pick it up, I was devastated. 508 00:24:55,895 --> 00:24:59,165 I guess I thought, this is not over. 509 00:24:59,265 --> 00:25:01,433 I was totally devastated. 510 00:25:01,534 --> 00:25:03,703 There's nothing more that either one of us 511 00:25:03,803 --> 00:25:08,507 want than for this to be solved and for whoever murdered my dad 512 00:25:08,608 --> 00:25:13,245 to be caught, and at the same time, for him 513 00:25:13,345 --> 00:25:17,684 to be also caught for the fact that he's still terrorizing us. 514 00:25:17,784 --> 00:25:21,053 He is still making us live a nightmare that continues 515 00:25:21,153 --> 00:25:22,655 on and on all the time. 516 00:25:26,025 --> 00:25:27,694 In his last call, the extortionist 517 00:25:27,794 --> 00:25:29,796 told Tammy he still planned to kill her 518 00:25:29,896 --> 00:25:33,065 and that he would strike when she least expected it. 519 00:25:33,165 --> 00:25:34,901 Authorities know only that the suspect 520 00:25:35,001 --> 00:25:37,203 is white, about six feet tall, and uses 521 00:25:37,303 --> 00:25:39,739 an extensive vocabulary. 522 00:25:39,839 --> 00:25:41,540 Interestingly, they feel that the extortion 523 00:25:41,641 --> 00:25:43,776 letters were written by a man and a woman 524 00:25:43,876 --> 00:25:45,544 working in conjunction. 525 00:25:45,645 --> 00:25:49,548 [music playing] 526 00:25:55,154 --> 00:25:58,190 In the past four years, 68 wanted fugitives 527 00:25:58,290 --> 00:26:00,026 profiled on "Unsolved Mysteries" have 528 00:26:00,126 --> 00:26:03,696 been captured, thanks to vital information provided by you, 529 00:26:03,796 --> 00:26:05,097 our viewers. 530 00:26:05,197 --> 00:26:07,967 One recent case was that of a convicted con man wanted 531 00:26:08,067 --> 00:26:11,170 by Nevada police for murder. 532 00:26:11,270 --> 00:26:13,505 Joe, come on out, Joe. 533 00:26:13,606 --> 00:26:15,742 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): On October 6, 1990, Henderson, 534 00:26:15,842 --> 00:26:18,678 Nevada police entered the home of 50-year-old Joe Weldon 535 00:26:18,778 --> 00:26:20,079 Smith. 536 00:26:20,179 --> 00:26:22,849 Inside the house, they found the bodies of Smith's wife, Judith, 537 00:26:22,949 --> 00:26:25,952 and his two stepdaughters. 538 00:26:26,052 --> 00:26:28,020 All three victims had been strangled 539 00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:31,490 and bludgeoned to death. 540 00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:33,592 [phone ringing] 541 00:26:33,693 --> 00:26:34,560 Hello? 542 00:26:34,661 --> 00:26:35,427 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Two hours 543 00:26:35,527 --> 00:26:36,763 after the bodies were discovered, 544 00:26:36,863 --> 00:26:39,331 Joe Smith telephoned his wife's daughter-in-law. 545 00:26:39,431 --> 00:26:42,168 He denied any involvement in the murders. 546 00:26:42,268 --> 00:26:43,069 Joe? What's going on? 547 00:26:43,169 --> 00:26:44,136 [inaudible] 548 00:26:44,236 --> 00:26:45,337 JOHN WILLIAMS: He called her on the phone 549 00:26:45,437 --> 00:26:46,839 and told her that he had killed one 550 00:26:46,939 --> 00:26:49,275 of the people that did the killing 551 00:26:49,375 --> 00:26:50,609 and knew who the other ones were. 552 00:26:50,710 --> 00:26:52,411 JOE WELDON SMITH: I'm going to find the guys who did it. 553 00:26:52,511 --> 00:26:56,315 I know who they are, and I'm going to kill them. 554 00:26:56,415 --> 00:26:59,752 JOHN WILLIAMS: In my opinion, it was a ruse by Mr. Smith 555 00:26:59,852 --> 00:27:03,690 to get support from Judith Smith's family members 556 00:27:03,790 --> 00:27:04,991 and make them believe that he was 557 00:27:05,091 --> 00:27:08,060 not involved in the killings. 558 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,428 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Joe Weldon 559 00:27:09,528 --> 00:27:12,598 Smith was charged with three counts of first degree murder. 560 00:27:12,699 --> 00:27:15,868 His whereabouts remained a mystery until the night 561 00:27:15,968 --> 00:27:16,836 of our broadcast. 562 00:27:20,172 --> 00:27:22,641 Just minutes after we profiled Smith's case, 563 00:27:22,742 --> 00:27:24,811 an anonymous viewer called our telecenter 564 00:27:24,911 --> 00:27:26,879 to report that the fugitive was living 565 00:27:26,979 --> 00:27:30,282 near Los Angeles, California. 566 00:27:30,382 --> 00:27:32,551 Smith was hiding out at this motel, 567 00:27:32,651 --> 00:27:37,056 but managed to escape before he could be apprehended. 568 00:27:37,156 --> 00:27:39,058 E EDWARDS: Once we established that Joe Weldon Smith was 569 00:27:39,158 --> 00:27:41,961 in the Los Angeles area, we focused our attention 570 00:27:42,061 --> 00:27:45,798 to his brother, who we knew that he had close contact with. 571 00:27:45,898 --> 00:27:48,134 After five days of surveilling this brother, 572 00:27:48,234 --> 00:27:52,939 we established where the suspect was residing. 573 00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:55,307 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): 20 minutes later, Joe Weldon Smith 574 00:27:55,407 --> 00:27:58,644 was arrested at another local motel, where he was registered 575 00:27:58,745 --> 00:27:59,611 under an assumed name. 576 00:28:02,648 --> 00:28:05,584 Inside Smith's room, detectives recovered several credit 577 00:28:05,684 --> 00:28:07,519 and identification cards. 578 00:28:07,619 --> 00:28:09,922 Smith told police that he was in the process 579 00:28:10,022 --> 00:28:12,825 of creating a new identity. 580 00:28:12,925 --> 00:28:14,193 E EDWARDS: At the time of his arrest, 581 00:28:14,293 --> 00:28:16,662 Joe Smith indicated to me that he had seen the last airing 582 00:28:16,763 --> 00:28:18,364 of the "Unsolved Mystery" program, 583 00:28:18,464 --> 00:28:22,434 and he also told me that it was very tough being a fugitive, 584 00:28:22,534 --> 00:28:25,037 and he always knew that someone would be knocking at the door 585 00:28:25,137 --> 00:28:27,639 one day, and he was kind of glad it's all over at this point. 586 00:28:27,740 --> 00:28:31,110 [music playing] 587 00:28:37,183 --> 00:28:39,351 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Next, a beautiful young con artist 588 00:28:39,451 --> 00:28:41,587 embarks on a wild shopping spree. 589 00:28:45,657 --> 00:28:49,061 [music playing] 590 00:28:55,667 --> 00:28:59,171 Las Vegas, Nevada-- the city of light in the desert, 591 00:28:59,271 --> 00:29:02,241 a seductive town of high rollers and big spenders, where 592 00:29:02,341 --> 00:29:06,278 money flows quickly and easily. 593 00:29:06,378 --> 00:29:08,247 On the weekend shortly before Christmas, 594 00:29:08,347 --> 00:29:12,018 1990, an eccentric young woman named Liza Montgomery 595 00:29:12,118 --> 00:29:16,755 again a bizarre and most unusual shopping spree, remarkable even 596 00:29:16,856 --> 00:29:18,357 in freewheeling Las Vegas. 597 00:29:23,229 --> 00:29:26,298 On Friday afternoon, December 21st, Liza, 598 00:29:26,398 --> 00:29:31,370 dressed to the nines, visited local businessman, Mark Huseby. 599 00:29:31,470 --> 00:29:33,873 She was responding to his newspaper ad offering 600 00:29:33,973 --> 00:29:38,811 to send a full length mink coat and a two carat diamond ring. 601 00:29:38,911 --> 00:29:40,212 [knocking] 602 00:29:40,312 --> 00:29:41,413 - Hello. - Hi, Liza. 603 00:29:41,513 --> 00:29:42,314 How are you? 604 00:29:42,414 --> 00:29:43,215 Come on in. 605 00:29:43,315 --> 00:29:44,383 Oh, thank you. 606 00:29:44,483 --> 00:29:47,219 MARK HUSEBY: Liza's personality was like that 607 00:29:47,319 --> 00:29:48,654 of an excited schoolgirl. 608 00:29:48,754 --> 00:29:50,389 Here's your cashier's check. 609 00:29:50,489 --> 00:29:52,925 My god, there it is, and there's the ring. 610 00:29:53,025 --> 00:29:54,593 Liza, I told you to bring cash. 611 00:29:54,693 --> 00:29:56,528 I know, but the bank was closing, 612 00:29:56,628 --> 00:29:58,130 and anyway, that's just as good. 613 00:29:58,230 --> 00:29:59,098 I mean, don't worry about it. 614 00:29:59,198 --> 00:30:00,232 I mean it's a good check. 615 00:30:00,332 --> 00:30:01,834 Well, can I see your ID, please? 616 00:30:01,934 --> 00:30:03,302 Oh, sure. 617 00:30:03,402 --> 00:30:05,037 MARK HUSEBY: I asked to see her identification, 618 00:30:05,137 --> 00:30:07,339 because I had told her when she came to the home 619 00:30:07,439 --> 00:30:09,008 here that I did want cash. 620 00:30:09,108 --> 00:30:10,776 But I settled for the cashier's check. 621 00:30:10,877 --> 00:30:11,710 LIZA MONTGOMERY: Thank you. 622 00:30:11,810 --> 00:30:13,279 Well, let me walk you to the car. 623 00:30:13,379 --> 00:30:14,346 Oh, all right. 624 00:30:14,446 --> 00:30:16,048 Thank you. 625 00:30:16,148 --> 00:30:18,885 MARK HUSEBY: As I was saying goodbye to Liza, 626 00:30:18,985 --> 00:30:22,621 and I walked her out to her car, it seemed very unusual to me 627 00:30:22,721 --> 00:30:23,589 that she-- 628 00:30:23,689 --> 00:30:25,958 how she treated the mink coat. 629 00:30:26,058 --> 00:30:29,128 She just literally shoved it in the car, 630 00:30:29,228 --> 00:30:31,197 as if it meant nothing to her. 631 00:30:31,297 --> 00:30:32,098 Have a nice Christmas. 632 00:30:32,198 --> 00:30:34,366 Oh, you too. 633 00:30:34,466 --> 00:30:35,734 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Liza's shopping 634 00:30:35,834 --> 00:30:37,203 marathon was just beginning. 635 00:30:37,303 --> 00:30:38,437 Oh, hello. 636 00:30:38,537 --> 00:30:39,906 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): That same evening, 637 00:30:40,006 --> 00:30:41,407 she purchased two rings, which she 638 00:30:41,507 --> 00:30:43,375 had selected the previous week. 639 00:30:43,475 --> 00:30:47,914 She paid with a cashier's check in excess of $39,000. 640 00:30:48,014 --> 00:30:49,415 And here are your rings. 641 00:30:49,515 --> 00:30:50,349 Oh, thank you. 642 00:30:50,449 --> 00:30:52,084 They're just beautiful. 643 00:30:52,184 --> 00:30:53,252 SMILES ZEPEDA: Liza had been coming 644 00:30:53,352 --> 00:30:55,087 to us for about three months. 645 00:30:55,187 --> 00:30:57,656 She was always well dressed, so we never 646 00:30:57,756 --> 00:30:59,558 had a problem believing whether or not she could actually 647 00:30:59,658 --> 00:31:01,593 afford anything she wanted to. 648 00:31:01,693 --> 00:31:03,562 You know, you're very fortunate to get 649 00:31:03,662 --> 00:31:06,065 both of these diamonds at this price. 650 00:31:06,165 --> 00:31:08,634 Well, that's why they call me lucky. 651 00:31:08,734 --> 00:31:09,936 Here's your cashier's check. 652 00:31:10,036 --> 00:31:11,270 Oh, great. This looks fine. 653 00:31:11,370 --> 00:31:12,571 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The next day, 654 00:31:12,671 --> 00:31:15,041 Liza continued her rounds clad in the mink coat 655 00:31:15,141 --> 00:31:17,009 she had bought from Mark Huseby, driving 656 00:31:17,109 --> 00:31:18,877 an old battered moving van. 657 00:31:18,978 --> 00:31:20,646 If you could just write down that number. 658 00:31:20,746 --> 00:31:21,948 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): She purchased 659 00:31:22,048 --> 00:31:24,050 what she called a surprise gift for her husband-- 660 00:31:24,150 --> 00:31:30,689 $23,000 worth of furniture. 661 00:31:30,789 --> 00:31:33,392 Throughout the weekend, Liza continued her seemingly 662 00:31:33,492 --> 00:31:35,594 endless Christmas shopping, always 663 00:31:35,694 --> 00:31:37,896 paying with cashier's checks. 664 00:31:37,997 --> 00:31:39,631 At nine different stores, she picked up 665 00:31:39,731 --> 00:31:42,468 an additional $100,000 worth of jewelry, 666 00:31:42,568 --> 00:31:44,603 furs, and luxury items. 667 00:31:44,703 --> 00:31:47,139 All along the way, Liza made a big impression 668 00:31:47,239 --> 00:31:49,475 and raised quite a few eyebrows. 669 00:31:49,575 --> 00:31:52,111 People were becoming suspicious, starting 670 00:31:52,211 --> 00:31:53,645 with businessman, Mark Huseby. 671 00:31:59,518 --> 00:32:01,153 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Shortly after selling Liza 672 00:32:01,253 --> 00:32:03,722 the mink coat and ring, Huseby began to question 673 00:32:03,822 --> 00:32:07,059 whether Liza's check was good. 674 00:32:07,159 --> 00:32:09,295 He drove to an exclusive gated community 675 00:32:09,395 --> 00:32:13,132 looking for the address printed on Liz's identification card. 676 00:32:13,232 --> 00:32:15,301 Hi, do you have a Liza Montgomery living 677 00:32:15,401 --> 00:32:18,070 here at 2901 [inaudible] Drive? 678 00:32:18,170 --> 00:32:20,339 No, sir. MARK HUSEBY: Are you sure? 679 00:32:20,439 --> 00:32:21,340 I'm positive. 680 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,875 That address doesn't even exist. 681 00:32:23,976 --> 00:32:25,644 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Huseby immediately returned 682 00:32:25,744 --> 00:32:29,581 home and called the police. 683 00:32:29,681 --> 00:32:32,951 I explained to him that unless or until the bank received 684 00:32:33,052 --> 00:32:35,654 that check and officially notified him that it was 685 00:32:35,754 --> 00:32:38,624 counterfeit or somehow forged, there was really nothing 686 00:32:38,724 --> 00:32:39,958 we could do at that point. 687 00:32:40,059 --> 00:32:41,393 Even if we were able to find her, 688 00:32:41,493 --> 00:32:43,229 we'd have no authority to detain her, 689 00:32:43,329 --> 00:32:46,165 simply because the address on a cashier's check 690 00:32:46,265 --> 00:32:48,100 was somehow an error, and that we couldn't 691 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,202 detain her just based on that. 692 00:32:50,302 --> 00:32:51,203 Be careful with that. 693 00:32:51,303 --> 00:32:52,404 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Meanwhile, 694 00:32:52,504 --> 00:32:53,572 back at the furniture store, Liza 695 00:32:53,672 --> 00:32:55,574 was having difficulty squeezing everything 696 00:32:55,674 --> 00:32:57,476 she had bought into the van. 697 00:32:57,576 --> 00:32:59,178 If you want to, you can borrow one of our trucks, 698 00:32:59,278 --> 00:33:00,612 and we can follow you over there. 699 00:33:00,712 --> 00:33:02,081 - No, thank you. - Are you sure? 700 00:33:02,181 --> 00:33:03,382 I mean after you surprise your husband, 701 00:33:03,482 --> 00:33:05,217 I'd be glad to help you set up some of the furniture. 702 00:33:05,317 --> 00:33:06,352 I don't care what you have to do. 703 00:33:06,452 --> 00:33:07,519 Just get it in there. 704 00:33:07,619 --> 00:33:09,388 Just get it in. 705 00:33:09,488 --> 00:33:10,689 OK. 706 00:33:10,789 --> 00:33:12,191 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The store owner was troubled 707 00:33:12,291 --> 00:33:14,193 by her belligerent attitude. 708 00:33:14,293 --> 00:33:15,927 Once the van was loaded, he decided 709 00:33:16,028 --> 00:33:18,864 to follow in his own car just to see where Liza would go. 710 00:33:24,103 --> 00:33:25,771 Before leaving, the amateur sleuth 711 00:33:25,871 --> 00:33:28,607 gave his wife a walkie talkie and took one for himself. 712 00:33:31,977 --> 00:33:34,113 She's turning away from Rancho Bel Air. 713 00:33:34,213 --> 00:33:35,681 I knew she was lying. 714 00:33:35,781 --> 00:33:36,582 Call the police. 715 00:33:36,682 --> 00:33:37,916 I'm going to keep following her. 716 00:33:38,016 --> 00:33:38,817 OK. 717 00:33:41,087 --> 00:33:43,389 PAUL FIGLIA: We had learned from dispatch that the check had 718 00:33:43,489 --> 00:33:46,192 already been passed at the furniture store 719 00:33:46,292 --> 00:33:47,626 and that it was in the name of Liza 720 00:33:47,726 --> 00:33:49,595 Montgomery, which was the exact same name 721 00:33:49,695 --> 00:33:51,497 that Mark Huseby had given us. 722 00:33:51,597 --> 00:33:53,665 Based on that information, we felt that there was enough 723 00:33:53,765 --> 00:33:56,568 corroboration now, since there were two checks floating 724 00:33:56,668 --> 00:33:59,171 around, that she needed to at least be 725 00:33:59,271 --> 00:34:01,607 stopped and identified. 726 00:34:01,707 --> 00:34:02,541 By the sounds of it, what? 727 00:34:02,641 --> 00:34:03,542 10 minutes away maybe? 728 00:34:03,642 --> 00:34:05,577 Six if we hurry. 729 00:34:05,677 --> 00:34:07,279 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The furniture store owner 730 00:34:07,379 --> 00:34:09,948 followed Liza's van to a residential neighborhood 731 00:34:10,048 --> 00:34:11,950 five miles away. 732 00:34:12,050 --> 00:34:14,920 He described each event as it unfolded. 733 00:34:15,020 --> 00:34:17,123 She just pulled over onto a residential street 734 00:34:17,223 --> 00:34:19,825 and met up with a man standing next to a red convertible. 735 00:34:22,628 --> 00:34:24,263 Now he's getting into the truck. 736 00:34:24,363 --> 00:34:25,331 She's getting into the car. 737 00:34:28,834 --> 00:34:31,670 They're leaving together and heading north on Jones. 738 00:34:31,770 --> 00:34:33,071 OK. 739 00:34:33,172 --> 00:34:34,973 My husband says that the woman made contact with the man. 740 00:34:35,073 --> 00:34:36,575 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The store owner's wife 741 00:34:36,675 --> 00:34:37,909 attempted to keep authorities abreast 742 00:34:38,009 --> 00:34:39,044 of her husband's whereabouts. 743 00:34:39,145 --> 00:34:41,046 We advised the store owner to try and keep up 744 00:34:41,147 --> 00:34:44,015 with the vehicle if he can, and we'll be there momentarily, 745 00:34:44,116 --> 00:34:47,653 within two or three minutes. 746 00:34:47,753 --> 00:34:49,555 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The van and the red convertible 747 00:34:49,655 --> 00:34:50,556 headed south. 748 00:34:50,656 --> 00:34:52,491 The store owner remained on their heels. 749 00:34:56,195 --> 00:34:57,829 When the vehicles reached an intersection 750 00:34:57,929 --> 00:35:01,099 on the outskirts of town, the van made an illegal right turn 751 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,269 and sped away. 752 00:35:03,369 --> 00:35:05,171 She stopped the car. 753 00:35:05,271 --> 00:35:08,540 Oh, I better get out of here. 754 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,276 What are you doing? 755 00:35:10,376 --> 00:35:11,643 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The store owner 756 00:35:11,743 --> 00:35:14,246 was fearful that this angry woman in a white mink coat 757 00:35:14,346 --> 00:35:15,781 might be carrying a weapon. 758 00:35:15,881 --> 00:35:18,217 He sped off with the convertible in hot pursuit. 759 00:35:23,088 --> 00:35:25,357 After nearly a three-mile chase, the store owner 760 00:35:25,457 --> 00:35:27,226 pulled to the side of the road. 761 00:35:27,326 --> 00:35:29,595 Liza whizzed by and disappeared. 762 00:35:32,498 --> 00:35:35,834 The police were just minutes away, but it was too late. 763 00:35:35,934 --> 00:35:37,703 They combed a five-mile area, searching 764 00:35:37,803 --> 00:35:39,571 for Liza and her accomplice. 765 00:35:39,671 --> 00:35:42,574 They ran checks on various garages and warehouses hoping 766 00:35:42,674 --> 00:35:45,577 to recover the stolen goods, but the perpetrators 767 00:35:45,677 --> 00:35:46,912 and the property were gone. 768 00:35:50,115 --> 00:35:53,885 In summary, she hit at least 12 places that we're aware of, 769 00:35:53,985 --> 00:35:58,857 and the amount of loss to all of those in total 770 00:35:58,957 --> 00:36:01,092 was over $150,000. 771 00:36:01,193 --> 00:36:06,832 The last of the places she hit was a gaming supply store 772 00:36:06,932 --> 00:36:09,668 at which time she bought three slot machines, almost as 773 00:36:09,768 --> 00:36:11,503 if she wanted to take a souvenir of Las Vegas 774 00:36:11,603 --> 00:36:14,340 with her out of town. 775 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:15,974 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Eventually, the van and 776 00:36:16,074 --> 00:36:17,676 the convertible were recovered. 777 00:36:17,776 --> 00:36:21,012 Liza had rented both vehicles at local agencies. 778 00:36:21,112 --> 00:36:23,114 In each case, she persuaded the rental clerk 779 00:36:23,215 --> 00:36:27,118 to accept a $500 cash deposit in lieu of a credit card. 780 00:36:27,219 --> 00:36:29,120 The cash was never reclaimed. 781 00:36:32,924 --> 00:36:35,994 Usually, we only find this type of skill 782 00:36:36,094 --> 00:36:38,297 amongst people who are going to get 783 00:36:38,397 --> 00:36:40,165 involved in a scam that's worth thousands 784 00:36:40,266 --> 00:36:41,500 upon thousands of dollars. 785 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:46,238 For the most part, some of these nickel and dime con games 786 00:36:46,338 --> 00:36:48,139 fall through when the victim looks straight 787 00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:51,810 through the suspect and is able to see that it is a con game. 788 00:36:51,910 --> 00:36:53,645 But when we talk about big money like this, 789 00:36:53,745 --> 00:36:54,880 if they're going to get away with it, 790 00:36:54,980 --> 00:36:56,147 they're going to have to be very good, 791 00:36:56,248 --> 00:36:59,050 and Liza was one of the best. 792 00:36:59,150 --> 00:37:01,086 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Liza Montgomery did leave behind one 793 00:37:01,186 --> 00:37:03,054 significant piece of evidence. 794 00:37:03,154 --> 00:37:04,990 When she rented the van, the clerk made 795 00:37:05,090 --> 00:37:08,159 this copy of her state ID card. 796 00:37:08,260 --> 00:37:12,063 [music playing] 797 00:37:29,681 --> 00:37:32,551 When we return, an intriguing eyewitness account 798 00:37:32,651 --> 00:37:35,721 may help solve a string of bizarre disappearances. 799 00:37:38,790 --> 00:37:42,661 [music playing] 800 00:37:44,763 --> 00:37:48,600 [sirens] 801 00:37:49,701 --> 00:37:54,673 February 4th, 1990, 4:30 AM-- 802 00:37:54,773 --> 00:37:56,742 sheriff's deputies responded to a call 803 00:37:56,842 --> 00:37:59,277 at a convenience store in Orlando, Florida. 804 00:37:59,378 --> 00:38:00,746 Who here called the sheriff's office? 805 00:38:00,846 --> 00:38:02,047 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Two customers 806 00:38:02,147 --> 00:38:03,815 and found the all night market open, 807 00:38:03,915 --> 00:38:06,752 but curiously, unattended. 808 00:38:06,852 --> 00:38:09,087 No one was minding the store. 809 00:38:09,187 --> 00:38:11,890 A friend of mine works here, and I stopped in to say hello. 810 00:38:11,990 --> 00:38:13,124 And she wasn't here. 811 00:38:13,224 --> 00:38:14,025 I don't know where she is. 812 00:38:14,125 --> 00:38:16,962 She just kind of disappeared. 813 00:38:17,062 --> 00:38:18,296 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Deputies 814 00:38:18,397 --> 00:38:22,734 immediately searched for any signs of the missing clerk. 815 00:38:22,834 --> 00:38:25,771 Behind the counter, they found a work smock neatly folded. 816 00:38:28,607 --> 00:38:30,376 The cash register was locked, and there 817 00:38:30,476 --> 00:38:31,910 was no evidence of a robbery. 818 00:38:34,813 --> 00:38:37,282 RIGGS GAY: The store appeared to be just abandoned. 819 00:38:40,218 --> 00:38:42,688 There was absolutely no signs of any struggle. 820 00:38:42,788 --> 00:38:44,656 Nothing appeared to be missing from the store 821 00:38:44,756 --> 00:38:47,559 with the exception of the store clerk. 822 00:38:47,659 --> 00:38:48,994 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The missing clerk 823 00:38:49,094 --> 00:38:51,430 was 26-year-old Deborah Deann Poe, 824 00:38:51,530 --> 00:38:53,665 who worked days at a local newspaper and nights 825 00:38:53,765 --> 00:38:54,566 at the store. 826 00:38:57,969 --> 00:38:59,505 Deborah had moved to Orlando just 827 00:38:59,605 --> 00:39:01,072 four months earlier with her friend 828 00:39:01,172 --> 00:39:04,743 and roommate, Lori Tillman. 829 00:39:04,843 --> 00:39:07,278 LORI TILLMAN: Debbie and I were more like sisters 830 00:39:07,379 --> 00:39:10,248 than I am with my own sister. 831 00:39:10,348 --> 00:39:12,350 We had a very unusual friendship. 832 00:39:12,451 --> 00:39:14,052 We could fight like sisters do, we 833 00:39:14,152 --> 00:39:16,087 could ignore each other like sisters do, 834 00:39:16,187 --> 00:39:17,623 but we were there for each other. 835 00:39:17,723 --> 00:39:20,325 If we ever needed anything, we could count on one another. 836 00:39:20,426 --> 00:39:21,793 Good evening, sir. 837 00:39:21,893 --> 00:39:22,928 That's $1.89. 838 00:39:23,028 --> 00:39:24,229 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The most dangerous 839 00:39:24,329 --> 00:39:25,497 time for convenience store employees 840 00:39:25,597 --> 00:39:27,666 is the graveyard shift. 841 00:39:27,766 --> 00:39:28,934 This was Deborah's shift. 842 00:39:32,938 --> 00:39:35,741 Five nights a week from 11:00 PM to 7:00 AM, 843 00:39:35,841 --> 00:39:37,943 she was behind the counter alone. 844 00:39:40,746 --> 00:39:41,747 How ya'll doing? 845 00:39:41,847 --> 00:39:43,715 Seeing a lady tonight on a Saturday night? 846 00:39:43,815 --> 00:39:44,916 There you go. 847 00:39:45,016 --> 00:39:46,752 LORI TILLMAN: She needed to work and get the money. 848 00:39:46,852 --> 00:39:48,954 She had a brand new car to pay for. 849 00:39:49,054 --> 00:39:52,891 She wanted to buy a house, and she wanted to start a business. 850 00:39:52,991 --> 00:39:54,225 So if it meant working two full time 851 00:39:54,325 --> 00:39:56,161 jobs that she really didn't like, that's what she'd do. 852 00:39:58,597 --> 00:40:00,499 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Just after 11 o'clock on the night 853 00:40:00,599 --> 00:40:03,368 she disappeared, a friend of Deborah's dropped by to discuss 854 00:40:03,469 --> 00:40:06,004 some house plans with her. 855 00:40:06,104 --> 00:40:06,905 That's what I want. 856 00:40:07,005 --> 00:40:08,507 I don't know if I can afford it. 857 00:40:08,607 --> 00:40:10,275 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Police verified that Deborah 858 00:40:10,375 --> 00:40:11,977 waited on customers from the time 859 00:40:12,077 --> 00:40:14,580 her friend left until 3:05 AM. 860 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:15,614 I've got to take care of her. 861 00:40:15,714 --> 00:40:17,048 I'm sorry. 862 00:40:17,148 --> 00:40:19,951 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): When her friend returned at 3:50 AM, 863 00:40:20,051 --> 00:40:21,753 Deborah was nowhere to be found. 864 00:40:26,925 --> 00:40:30,596 Her vehicle was parked where she parked it that night 865 00:40:30,696 --> 00:40:33,632 when she came to work. 866 00:40:33,732 --> 00:40:34,966 It had not been disturbed. 867 00:40:35,066 --> 00:40:40,472 It was locked, and her purse was sitting on the backseat. 868 00:40:40,572 --> 00:40:41,773 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Investigators 869 00:40:41,873 --> 00:40:45,010 concluded that Deborah Poe had probably been abducted. 870 00:40:45,110 --> 00:40:47,078 Looks to be about $25 cash in here. 871 00:40:47,178 --> 00:40:48,614 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): They soon discovered 872 00:40:48,714 --> 00:40:50,315 that Deborah was not the first store 873 00:40:50,415 --> 00:40:53,451 clerk in Florida to disappear on the graveyard shift. 874 00:40:56,421 --> 00:40:59,791 Six months earlier, on August 6th, 1989, 875 00:40:59,891 --> 00:41:02,961 29-year-old Donna Callahan disappeared from a convenience 876 00:41:03,061 --> 00:41:05,664 store in Gulf Breeze, Florida. 877 00:41:05,764 --> 00:41:07,566 As in Deborah's case, there were no signs 878 00:41:07,666 --> 00:41:09,801 of struggle at the scene. 879 00:41:09,901 --> 00:41:11,637 Donna was three months pregnant and left 880 00:41:11,737 --> 00:41:13,271 behind a two-year-old daughter. 881 00:41:15,941 --> 00:41:18,343 Five weeks later, on September 18th, 882 00:41:18,443 --> 00:41:21,346 36-year-old Darlene Messer was abducted from a Lake 883 00:41:21,446 --> 00:41:23,481 City convenience store. 884 00:41:23,582 --> 00:41:27,452 Two days later, Darlene's body was found in a nearby creek. 885 00:41:27,553 --> 00:41:28,787 She had been bludgeoned to death. 886 00:41:31,723 --> 00:41:35,426 Three victims, all single females in their 20s or 30s-- 887 00:41:35,527 --> 00:41:39,097 all had vanished while working the graveyard shift alone. 888 00:41:39,197 --> 00:41:41,199 Investigators believe that the cases were linked 889 00:41:41,299 --> 00:41:43,101 but had no suspect. 890 00:41:43,201 --> 00:41:45,470 Then three days after Deborah Poe's disappearance, 891 00:41:45,571 --> 00:41:47,539 authorities were contacted by a young woman, 892 00:41:47,639 --> 00:41:50,542 who read about the case in a local paper. 893 00:41:50,642 --> 00:41:52,578 She came forward after realizing that she 894 00:41:52,678 --> 00:41:55,480 may have stood face to face with Deborah Poe's abductor. 895 00:41:59,718 --> 00:42:02,688 WITNESS: I stopped by a convenience store about 3:30 896 00:42:02,788 --> 00:42:05,190 to pick up a pack of cigarettes, and there was 897 00:42:05,290 --> 00:42:06,992 only one person in the store. 898 00:42:07,092 --> 00:42:08,193 And it appeared to be the clerk. 899 00:42:11,797 --> 00:42:13,765 Looking back on it, he didn't know 900 00:42:13,865 --> 00:42:15,867 where the cigarettes were, which isn't that 901 00:42:15,967 --> 00:42:19,270 uncommon if it's a new clerk. 902 00:42:19,370 --> 00:42:22,073 And I had to point out which ones I wanted. 903 00:42:22,173 --> 00:42:24,409 No, the regular ones up top over there. 904 00:42:24,509 --> 00:42:27,145 WITNESS: He had long, stringy hair. 905 00:42:27,245 --> 00:42:28,980 He was wearing an earring of a cross. 906 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,982 You really shouldn't smoke, you know. 907 00:42:31,082 --> 00:42:32,951 WITNESS: And a skull's ring. 908 00:42:33,051 --> 00:42:34,452 Yeah, right 909 00:42:34,552 --> 00:42:38,857 WITNESS: And he had a rock t-shirt and the name, Megadeth, 910 00:42:38,957 --> 00:42:39,758 across the top. 911 00:42:42,794 --> 00:42:47,498 We cannot locate anyone else that has been able to tell us 912 00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:49,434 whether or not this individual was in the store 913 00:42:49,534 --> 00:42:51,970 when they were in the store. 914 00:42:52,070 --> 00:42:54,873 He might have been a customer that walked in and was walking 915 00:42:54,973 --> 00:42:56,942 around looking for the clerk. 916 00:42:57,042 --> 00:42:58,343 He might have been an individual, 917 00:42:58,443 --> 00:43:03,248 who was taking an opportunity to shoplift or steal some things. 918 00:43:03,348 --> 00:43:05,516 Or he might be responsible or, in part, 919 00:43:05,617 --> 00:43:09,755 responsible for the abduction of Deborah Poe. 920 00:43:09,855 --> 00:43:12,023 There's a good possibility that we're 921 00:43:12,123 --> 00:43:16,461 dealing with an individual, who is a serial type of person, 922 00:43:16,561 --> 00:43:19,097 who abducts these people. 923 00:43:19,197 --> 00:43:20,431 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Deborah Poe is 924 00:43:20,531 --> 00:43:22,834 officially listed as missing. 925 00:43:22,934 --> 00:43:26,004 She is 26 years old, five feet, two inches tall, 926 00:43:26,104 --> 00:43:28,306 and weighs approximately 105 pounds. 927 00:43:31,076 --> 00:43:34,880 LORI TILLMAN: If we don't find her alive, then we can at least 928 00:43:34,980 --> 00:43:38,884 put her to rest, give her a decent service, 929 00:43:38,984 --> 00:43:40,551 go after her killer. 930 00:43:40,652 --> 00:43:44,522 [music playing] 931 00:44:08,947 --> 00:44:10,816 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): This Sunday, a special edition 932 00:44:10,916 --> 00:44:12,417 of "Unsolved Mysteries-- 933 00:44:12,517 --> 00:44:14,185 The Investigators." 934 00:44:14,285 --> 00:44:16,254 In North Dakota, a woman dies when 935 00:44:16,354 --> 00:44:19,991 her car is engulfed in flames on an isolated country road. 936 00:44:20,091 --> 00:44:22,427 This controversial case pits two investigators 937 00:44:22,527 --> 00:44:23,929 against each other. 938 00:44:24,029 --> 00:44:25,596 One says it was an accident. 939 00:44:25,697 --> 00:44:28,834 The other is convinced it was murder. 940 00:44:28,934 --> 00:44:33,371 Join me Sunday night at 8:00 for these fascinating profiles, 941 00:44:33,471 --> 00:44:36,141 The Investigators on "Unsolved Mysteries." 942 00:44:36,241 --> 00:44:39,477 [music playing] 73188

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