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ANNOUNCER: This program is
about unsolved mysteries.
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Whenever possible, the
actual family members
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and police officials
have participated
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in recreating the events.
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What you are about to see
is not a news broadcast.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
An unknown killer stalks
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a family in Denver, Colorado.
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In 1985, Roger Dean
was gunned down
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in cold blood in his own house.
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Five years later, the killer
contacted Dean's widow
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and threatened to kill
her daughter, unless he
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was paid extortion money.
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December 7th, 1941, the
Japanese sneak attack
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devastates Pearl Harbor.
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Nearly 40 years later,
a woman under hypnosis
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provided a detailed
firsthand account
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of that infamous day,
which occurred a full 10
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years before she was born.
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In Las Vegas, an eccentric,
beautiful con artist
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named Liza Montgomery went on a
wild two-day Christmas shopping
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spree and gobbled up
$150,000 worth of jewelry,
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furs, and other luxury items.
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Join me.
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Perhaps you may be able
to help solve a mystery.
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[theme music]
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December 7th, 1941, 7:38
AM, Pearl Harbor, Hawaii--
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for those who were
there and survived,
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it was, indeed, a day
that will live in infamy.
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Their memories
are as vivid today
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as they were 50 years ago.
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SHARON JOHNSON: There's smoke.
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I don't want to die.
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Those aren't our planes.
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They're firing at us.
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They just keep coming.
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I've got to get a gun.
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I've got to get a gun.
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There's no ammunition.
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We don't have any ammunition.
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They're just bombing everybody.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The narrative
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you just heard was related
by a woman under hypnosis.
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She was born in 1952, 11
years after the attack
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on Pearl Harbor.
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The woman claims no more
than a passing knowledge
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of the events of that fateful
Sunday morning, yet much
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of her account is filled with
specific names and details,
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which lead some to believe
that she was actually
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present during the attack--
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in a past life.
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Others, however, are
convinced that her memories
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are no more than a byproduct
of hypnotic suggestion.
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In either case, the
details of the story
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defy logical explanation.
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The woman at the center of this
baffling mystery of the mind
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has asked to remain anonymous.
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We shall call her
Sharon Johnson.
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Step right this way
[inaudible], please.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
In 1979, Sharon Johnson
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first visited hypnotherapist,
Frank Baranowski,
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because she wanted
help losing weight.
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In 20 years of practice,
Baranowski has placed thousands
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of patients under hypnosis.
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Ever been hypnotized before?
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No.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
When Sharon was hypnotized,
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she began to
experience a recurring
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nightmare of smoke
and fire, which had
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plagued her since childhood.
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Three, four.
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You're four years
old now, Sharon.
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[coughing] The
water's on fire.
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Water's burning.
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[coughing]
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All right, Sharon.
All right, all right.
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Relax.
Relax.
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Deeper relax now.
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SHARON JOHNSON: I
don't have dreams
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like that as much as I used to--
you know, just periodically.
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The dreams started
when I was very small.
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I always remember
having the dreams
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about fires and explosions.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Sharon lost 30 pounds,
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but the dream
remained unexplained.
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Six months later,
she visited Hawaii
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for the first time
on a group tour
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with Frank Baranowski
and some of his friends.
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SHARON JOHNSON: It was strange
when I was there, because there
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were places that I went to
when I was there that it was
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like, I've been here before.
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I've seen this.
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I knew where things were that
I couldn't have known about.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Sharon's visit
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to the Battleship
Arizona Memorial
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at Pearl Harbor triggered
the same anxiety
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as her recurring nightmare.
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She returned to her
hotel room and asked
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Frank to hypnotize her.
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During this session, Sharon
began to speak as never before,
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and a new persona emerged.
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His name was John Gillespie.
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FRANK BARANOWSKI: OK.
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So we take her to
the time [inaudible].
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She's Sharon Johnson.
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We go back to age 12, age
10, age five, down to birth,
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and then I ask her
to start recalling
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something that happened.
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I said, when I reach
the count of 12,
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you'll be in the 12th
season of your life.
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OK?
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And suddenly, when
she's there, she's
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talking like a 12-year-old.
What's your name?
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John.
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John Gillespie.
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I'm a junior.
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Oh.
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Where you at?
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On the farm.
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What farm?
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I says, where you at?
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She says, what?
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This is Omaha.
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Omaha?
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Yeah.
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Well, Omaha, Nebraska.
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[inaudible].
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
As the session continued,
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a chilling account of the
surprised Japanese attack
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began to emerge.
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[coughing] There's
bombs dropping everywhere.
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They're everywhere.
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These planes everywhere.
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They bomb us with it too.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
In the account,
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several men were named, who
were on board the Nevada
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at the time of the attack.
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Among them, a Captain
Stanley, a Paymaster Cooper,
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and [inaudible].
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Don't worry about me!
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Take a forward.
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Secure the main gun!
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
In Sharon's memory,
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Tosic was particularly
prominent.
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He was apparently the son of an
admiral and was badly injured.
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A few minutes later, the
story came to an abrupt end.
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With great pain, Sharon
realized that John
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Gillespie had been killed.
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Very good.
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Deeper relax for me.
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SHARON JOHNSON:
Up to that point,
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I had not had a past
life regression.
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I wanted to know more
about what had happened
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and who the person
was that I felt
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I was in this traumatic
experience I had just had.
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What about your grandfather?
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What's your name?
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We call him Red.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Over the next few months,
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Sharon underwent progressive
hypnosis 20 more times.
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Frank recorded the
details of these sessions
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and then set out to see if
the story of John Gillespie
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could be documented.
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In one hypnosis session, Sharon,
speaking as John Gillespie,
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listed the names of nine men
serving on the USS Nevada.
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She also gave John
Gillespie's serial number.
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Frank Baranowski turned to
the office of Congressman John
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Rhodes for help.
- Good morning, Frank.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Bob Scanlon,
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senior aide to the congressman,
was assigned the case.
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Thank you.
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ROBERT SCANLON: When he
first asked for our help
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and briefed me on the problem,
I was pretty skeptical.
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I thought, you know, we got
a lot of strange requests,
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and this has to be
one of the strangest.
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I know it's rather incredible,
but she gives me names,
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dates, and places of people.
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I have no way of checking.
Here.
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ROBERT SCANLON: When
I heard the story
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and listened to the
tapes, I figured
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that our office in
Washington certainly
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should be able to get
into Naval archives
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and either prove or disprove
what this young lady had said.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Using congressional privileges,
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Scanlon obtained the
Nevada's roster of officers
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from the National Archives
in Washington, DC.
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Amazingly, eight of the nine men
Sharon mentioned were listed.
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I remember when I received
that and first read it,
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I told my secretary that I
don't know whether to point
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with pride or view with alarm.
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This was a strange result
that I really didn't expect.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
However, the Ensign Tosic,
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who would play such
a prominent part
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in Sharon's past life memory,
was not included on the list.
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Ensign Tosic was originally
shown in all Naval records
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to have been in Long
Beach, California
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the morning of the
attack on Pearl Harbor,
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when, in fact, he was
on board the Nevada
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and was tragically
injured that morning.
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In fact, I think,
as we found later,
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he lost a leg due to the
attack on Pearl Harbor.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
"Unsolved Mysteries"
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contacted Robert
Tosic, a former ensign
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in the United States Navy.
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Tosic declined to be interviewed
on camera, but incredibly,
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confirmed many details
of Sharon's account.
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He was on board
the Nevada that day
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and, in fact, had to
have his leg amputated.
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The name, John Gillespie,
does not appear
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on any of the ship's rosters.
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FRANK BARANOWSKI: The Navy
admits the only records
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that they carried
were the paymaster's
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records onboard that ship.
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The fires raged
incessantly for two days.
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All of that was destroyed.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Fire would also
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frustrate any attempt to
verify the serial number
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of John Gillespie.
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In 1973, flames ravaged a
Naval warehouse in St. Louis,
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destroying the service
records of thousands of seamen
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from World War II.
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How about your grandmother?
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Sharon's past life memory
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also included information about
John Gillespie's personal life.
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Under hypnosis, she stated that
he was born in 1921 in Omaha,
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Nebraska, the son of John
Gillespie, Sr. and grandson
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of Harry Gillespie.
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In census records
from 1899, Frank
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found what he believes is proof
that John Gillespie did exist.
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FRANK BARANOWSKI: When we
came across this frame,
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we found it--
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Harry Gillespie, wife, Ida
Mae, son, Benjamin, son, John.
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And that John was John
Gillespie's father.
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And he would have been 24
years old when John was
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born, exactly the right age.
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Yes, you can read
about Nebraska.
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You can read about the farmland.
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You can read about Omaha
and Lincoln and all
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of those places,
but unless you have
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experienced
something, then where
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do you get specific
names, specific places?
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I mean your history--
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): How valid
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are Sharon's so-called
past life experiences?
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At least one expert
feels that Sharon
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may have absorbed the tales
from books from the power
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of hypnotic suggestion.
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Well, the
information about Tosic
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is easily available to
anyone who looks for it
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in a book that tells a story.
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The events at Pearl
Harbor have probably
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been as written about as any
incident in this century.
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No, she never did any
reading about Pearl Harbor.
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It was one of those things
that she just didn't care for.
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When somebody would
mention it, she would just
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shudder and just walk away.
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He asks leading
questions of his subjects.
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He seems to take control
of the regression,
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rather than allowing the person
involved to be in control
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and to volunteer information.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In an
attempt to refute the critics,
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both Frank and Sharon agreed
to undergo polygraph tests
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with Glen Whiteside,
a polygraph examiner
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for 20 years, who has been
board certified in four states.
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GLEN WHITESIDE: In my opinion,
Sharon and Frank absolutely
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are not conducting a hoax.
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They did not get
their information out
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of records books.
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They are not using
mind conditioning
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or hypnotic suggestion.
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They are not perpetrating
a hoax in any way.
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Any place else?
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Under hypnosis, Sharon
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revealed that John Gillespie
had a Hawaiian girlfriend named
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Sugar.
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This composite was made
from Sharon's description.
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John met Sugar while he was
stationed at Pearl Harbor.
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If she exists, Sugar would
today be 70 years old.
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For most of us, the
incredible facts of this story
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seem hard to accept.
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How could a woman living
today have such vivid memories
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of someone else's life and death
at Pearl Harbor 50 years ago?
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Is there any way to prove the
details of Sharon's account
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beyond a shadow of a doubt?
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Probably not.
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But for believers,
there is no need to.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Next, a killer
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has returned to torment the
family of the man he murdered.
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[music playing]
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Littleton, Colorado
is an affluent suburb
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15 miles from Denver.
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Its residents are,
for the most part,
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business and
professional people.
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Roger Dean was typical.
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He and his wife, DJ, had lived
in Littleton for 15 years.
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November 21st, 1985, seemed
like an ordinary Wednesday
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morning, except for the
car nobody recognized
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parked outside the Dean home.
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Some remembered it as
a '68 Pontiac, others
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as a '76 Oldsmobile.
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But all agreed on one thing.
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They had never before seen
the lone man who sat inside.
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At the time, they
thought nothing of it.
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But at the time, Roger
Dean was still alive.
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ROGER DEAN: DJ, come out here.
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DJ DEAN: I'm in the tub, Roger.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
At approximately 7:00 AM,
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Roger Dean called his
wife, DJ, into the bedroom.
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J, come out here.
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What is it, Roger?
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All right, lady.
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Shut up and get on the bed.
- Oh!
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Shut up.
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Get on the bed.
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Shut up.
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Get down.
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Tie her hands.
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A masked intruder forced
Roger to tie and blindfold DJ.
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Then he took Roger
into another room.
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As DJ lay bound
helplessly on her bed,
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she could hear Roger
and the gunman talking,
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but she could not tell
what they were saying.
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You had enough time
to think about it?
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How much money have you
got in the savings account?
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I don't know.
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How much money have you
got in your savings account?
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I don't know.
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[crying]
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
DJ heard the gunman
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rifling through drawers.
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Then a loud noise made
him bolt from the room.
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ROGER DEAN: I don't
owe you any money.
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How much money do
you in your account?
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I have $30,000.
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I want it, and I want it now.
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It's not here.
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All right, we're
going to the bank.
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Let's go.
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00:16:22,782 --> 00:16:23,583
All right, I'll
give you the money.
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Go!
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00:16:25,518 --> 00:16:28,221
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Suddenly, the gunman fired.
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The bullet ricocheted,
striking Roger Dean in the arm.
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At the front door,
he fired again, five
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times at point blank range.
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Roger Dean died before
paramedics could be summoned.
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00:16:50,477 --> 00:16:52,812
DJ DEAN: After I started
hearing the gunshots,
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00:16:52,912 --> 00:16:58,185
I made my way down the
steps, and I did get outside.
349
00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,391
And from there, things
are a little blurred.
350
00:17:04,491 --> 00:17:06,759
I think someone
that was driving by
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00:17:06,859 --> 00:17:10,297
must have come by and
taken my blindfold off.
352
00:17:10,397 --> 00:17:13,166
I'm really not
even sure of that.
353
00:17:13,266 --> 00:17:16,169
I just knew that Rog--
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00:17:16,269 --> 00:17:20,640
I saw Rog went over to him,
and he was lying in the street.
355
00:17:20,740 --> 00:17:25,312
And then he was taken away, and
I was taken to the neighbor's.
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00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,149
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
From the start,
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authorities were struck by
several oddities in the case.
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Roger had twine fiber
embedded in only one wrist.
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00:17:36,356 --> 00:17:37,890
It appeared that Roger
had never actually
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00:17:37,990 --> 00:17:39,726
been tied up by the gunman.
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00:17:39,826 --> 00:17:42,129
Went on up the street.
362
00:17:42,229 --> 00:17:44,030
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Also, Roger was wearing contact
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00:17:44,131 --> 00:17:45,465
lenses when he was shot.
364
00:17:45,565 --> 00:17:46,533
Look at these glasses here.
365
00:17:46,633 --> 00:17:47,867
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Yet strangely,
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00:17:47,967 --> 00:17:50,002
in an upstairs bedroom,
his eyeglasses were
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00:17:50,103 --> 00:17:53,406
found covered with duct tape.
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00:17:53,506 --> 00:17:56,176
Police began to theorize that
the twine and the glasses
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00:17:56,276 --> 00:17:58,378
were both red herrings,
planted to give
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00:17:58,478 --> 00:18:01,281
the impression that Roger had
been blindfolded and bound.
371
00:18:03,950 --> 00:18:05,918
ANTHONY SPURLOCK: We believe
that Roger hired an individual
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00:18:06,018 --> 00:18:12,459
to come over to basically kidnap
him, take him to his bank,
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withdraw $30,000
from their account,
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00:18:16,729 --> 00:18:20,167
and then obviously, drop
Roger off someplace,
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00:18:20,267 --> 00:18:22,302
so Roger could report a robbery.
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00:18:22,402 --> 00:18:27,407
And he would have that
$30,000 to himself.
377
00:18:27,507 --> 00:18:29,108
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
During the investigation,
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00:18:29,209 --> 00:18:32,179
two other unusual facts emerged.
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In the year prior to
his death, Roger Dean
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00:18:34,447 --> 00:18:37,150
had taken nearly $30,000
from his business
381
00:18:37,250 --> 00:18:39,419
and deposited the money
in a private account
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00:18:39,519 --> 00:18:40,720
unbeknownst to his wife.
383
00:18:44,257 --> 00:18:47,827
Also, on the day of his murder,
Roger was seen sipping coffee
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00:18:47,927 --> 00:18:50,230
in his garage at 7:00 AM.
385
00:18:50,330 --> 00:18:56,236
On most weekdays, Roger left
the house no later than 6:15.
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00:18:56,336 --> 00:18:58,205
ANTHONY SPURLOCK: What
we make of that timing
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00:18:58,305 --> 00:19:01,107
is that he was waiting
for this individual
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00:19:01,208 --> 00:19:03,243
to come and meet
him at his house.
389
00:19:03,343 --> 00:19:05,778
We also believe that the
individual was probably sitting
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00:19:05,878 --> 00:19:09,182
in his car when Roger lifted
the garage door, which
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00:19:09,282 --> 00:19:10,617
was the signal for
this individual
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00:19:10,717 --> 00:19:14,887
to get out of his car and
walk over to Roger's home.
393
00:19:14,987 --> 00:19:19,492
This is the man that I
was married to for 26 years,
394
00:19:19,592 --> 00:19:27,400
and yes, there had been personal
problems in the last few years,
395
00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:31,170
especially since the
death of our son.
396
00:19:31,271 --> 00:19:34,140
But I knew the man too well.
397
00:19:34,241 --> 00:19:36,476
In my heart, I cannot
believe that Roger
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00:19:36,576 --> 00:19:38,278
had anything to do with this.
399
00:19:42,615 --> 00:19:45,885
Tragedy was not
new to DJ Dean.
400
00:19:45,985 --> 00:19:48,120
Two years earlier, her
son has been killed
401
00:19:48,221 --> 00:19:50,557
in an automobile accident.
402
00:19:50,657 --> 00:19:52,292
Within a few months,
another accident
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00:19:52,392 --> 00:19:54,761
took the lives of her parents.
404
00:19:54,861 --> 00:19:57,096
DJ and her daughter,
Tammy, tried desperately
405
00:19:57,196 --> 00:19:59,198
to rebuild their lives.
406
00:19:59,299 --> 00:20:01,868
Then five years after
Roger Dean's murder,
407
00:20:01,968 --> 00:20:04,937
DJ received a chilling
anonymous letter.
408
00:20:05,037 --> 00:20:08,074
Its author claimed to be the
man who had killed her husband.
409
00:20:11,644 --> 00:20:12,745
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): The letter
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00:20:12,845 --> 00:20:16,082
arrived on July 21st, 1990.
411
00:20:16,182 --> 00:20:19,352
It demanded $100,000.
412
00:20:19,452 --> 00:20:21,754
If Roger's murderer
did not get the money,
413
00:20:21,854 --> 00:20:24,090
he planned to kill again.
414
00:20:24,190 --> 00:20:25,758
EXTORTIONIST: Do you know
that I met your daughter,
415
00:20:25,858 --> 00:20:28,795
Tammy, on a few occasions?
416
00:20:28,895 --> 00:20:32,899
She is a very attractive
blonde and a very good model.
417
00:20:32,999 --> 00:20:35,668
Do not make me kill her.
418
00:20:35,768 --> 00:20:37,003
Your son is dead.
419
00:20:37,103 --> 00:20:38,871
Your husband is dead.
420
00:20:38,971 --> 00:20:40,640
Do not risk your daughter.
421
00:20:40,740 --> 00:20:44,411
She is the last one left.
422
00:20:44,511 --> 00:20:48,381
DJ DEAN: I was in total shock.
423
00:20:48,481 --> 00:20:51,818
I mean this was like something
that doesn't happen to you.
424
00:20:51,918 --> 00:20:53,953
This only happens in the movies.
425
00:20:54,053 --> 00:20:55,488
It makes me angry
that we had just
426
00:20:55,588 --> 00:20:58,991
started to get on with our lives
and put the past in the past,
427
00:20:59,091 --> 00:21:01,294
and it's all brought
up to you again.
428
00:21:01,394 --> 00:21:03,095
This person isn't
letting us continue,
429
00:21:03,195 --> 00:21:05,932
and we never did
anything to deserve this.
430
00:21:08,401 --> 00:21:09,569
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): DJ and Tammy
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00:21:09,669 --> 00:21:12,672
notified the local
authorities and the FBI.
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00:21:12,772 --> 00:21:16,008
The FBI had no doubt that the
extortionist was who he claimed
433
00:21:16,108 --> 00:21:18,678
to be, Roger Dean's killer.
434
00:21:18,778 --> 00:21:21,814
DJ and Tammy were given
round the clock protection.
435
00:21:25,051 --> 00:21:26,819
The killer had told
DJ that he would
436
00:21:26,919 --> 00:21:30,790
telephone her on July 27, 1990.
437
00:21:30,890 --> 00:21:35,261
FBI agents moved into DJ's home
and set up a wiretap operation.
438
00:21:35,362 --> 00:21:37,730
[phone rings]
439
00:21:37,830 --> 00:21:40,867
Wait for the second ring now.
440
00:21:40,967 --> 00:21:42,835
[phone rings]
441
00:21:42,935 --> 00:21:43,870
OK, DJ, pick it up.
442
00:21:46,573 --> 00:21:47,407
Hello?
443
00:21:47,507 --> 00:21:48,608
EXTORTIONIST: Listen.
444
00:21:48,708 --> 00:21:52,111
Your husband owed me
money, and I want my money.
445
00:21:52,211 --> 00:21:54,347
If my husband owed you money,
I'll pay you what he owed you.
446
00:21:54,447 --> 00:21:56,215
EXTORTIONIST: I want my money.
447
00:21:56,315 --> 00:21:57,417
I'll give it to you.
448
00:21:57,517 --> 00:21:58,751
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The FBI traced the call
449
00:21:58,851 --> 00:21:59,986
to a phone booth in Denver.
450
00:22:00,086 --> 00:22:01,187
All right, I'll
call you tomorrow,
451
00:22:01,287 --> 00:22:02,355
and I'll tell you
where to take it.
452
00:22:02,455 --> 00:22:03,723
[inaudible]
453
00:22:03,823 --> 00:22:05,458
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): But
before they could get there,
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00:22:05,558 --> 00:22:06,493
the killer had disappeared.
455
00:22:09,429 --> 00:22:12,432
DJ DEAN: I don't believe my
husband owed anyone this money,
456
00:22:12,532 --> 00:22:15,702
but that was what he said.
457
00:22:15,802 --> 00:22:19,138
And the phone calls continued
and continued and continued.
458
00:22:22,575 --> 00:22:24,444
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): After
nearly a dozen phone calls,
459
00:22:24,544 --> 00:22:26,446
the extortionist
told DJ to drive
460
00:22:26,546 --> 00:22:28,881
to a supermarket 20
miles north of her home
461
00:22:28,981 --> 00:22:32,819
and wait for further
instructions.
462
00:22:32,919 --> 00:22:36,122
OK, DJ, be calm.
463
00:22:36,222 --> 00:22:38,391
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): With
an FBI agent hidden in her car
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00:22:38,491 --> 00:22:41,260
and surveillance trucks
and a SWAT team for backup,
465
00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:44,497
DJ attempted to lure
the killer into a trap.
466
00:22:44,597 --> 00:22:45,398
OFFICER: OK.
467
00:22:45,498 --> 00:22:48,401
She's out of the car.
468
00:22:48,501 --> 00:22:51,604
And she's heading across
the parking lot now.
469
00:22:51,704 --> 00:22:53,773
She's headed towards
the phone booth.
470
00:22:59,612 --> 00:23:03,950
DJ DEAN: I waited, and
I waited, and I waited.
471
00:23:04,050 --> 00:23:06,385
Could not believe
I was really having
472
00:23:06,486 --> 00:23:08,054
to go through this terror.
473
00:23:08,154 --> 00:23:11,323
[phone rings]
474
00:23:11,424 --> 00:23:16,128
And then finally,
when I did get a call,
475
00:23:16,228 --> 00:23:21,601
I was given instructions
as to which streets to take
476
00:23:21,701 --> 00:23:23,102
and where to make the drop.
477
00:23:25,505 --> 00:23:26,806
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The extortionist
478
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told DJ to leave
$100,000 in an alley
479
00:23:30,109 --> 00:23:34,647
behind an apartment
complex in downtown Denver.
480
00:23:34,747 --> 00:23:39,318
At 10 PM on August 19th,
1990, DJ left the money,
481
00:23:39,418 --> 00:23:41,320
once again shadowed by the FBI.
482
00:23:48,961 --> 00:23:52,231
[phone rings]
483
00:23:53,232 --> 00:23:54,333
Hello?
484
00:23:54,433 --> 00:23:55,802
EXTORTIONIST: You haven't
followed instructions.
485
00:23:55,902 --> 00:23:56,703
Yes, we have.
486
00:23:56,803 --> 00:23:57,704
EXTORTIONIST: No, you haven't.
487
00:23:57,804 --> 00:23:59,205
You haven't followed
instructions,
488
00:23:59,305 --> 00:24:01,140
and now I'm going to hurt you.
489
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,308
TAMARA DEAN: He called about--
490
00:24:02,408 --> 00:24:04,877
it seemed like forever,
but a couple of hours
491
00:24:04,977 --> 00:24:08,114
later and was using
a lot of profanity
492
00:24:08,214 --> 00:24:12,351
and said that she had basically
not followed his instructions,
493
00:24:12,451 --> 00:24:15,021
had not done what he
had told her to do,
494
00:24:15,121 --> 00:24:20,326
and that now he was going to
do what he had said that he
495
00:24:20,426 --> 00:24:22,194
would do to me because of that.
496
00:24:22,294 --> 00:24:25,097
He would hurt me.
497
00:24:25,197 --> 00:24:27,166
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The
FBI kept the bundle of cash
498
00:24:27,266 --> 00:24:29,502
under surveillance until dawn.
499
00:24:29,602 --> 00:24:32,138
It was never picked up.
500
00:24:32,238 --> 00:24:35,041
BOB PENCE: Whether or
not he spotted something,
501
00:24:35,141 --> 00:24:38,845
whether or not he just took
for granted that the law
502
00:24:38,945 --> 00:24:42,248
enforcement was involved,
or whether or not he
503
00:24:42,348 --> 00:24:45,585
got cold feet, and although he
didn't detect any type of law
504
00:24:45,685 --> 00:24:49,689
enforcement, he
just was too scared
505
00:24:49,789 --> 00:24:51,791
to actually make
the pickup, I think
506
00:24:51,891 --> 00:24:53,325
all those are possibilities.
507
00:24:53,425 --> 00:24:55,795
When he didn't pick
it up, I was devastated.
508
00:24:55,895 --> 00:24:59,165
I guess I thought,
this is not over.
509
00:24:59,265 --> 00:25:01,433
I was totally devastated.
510
00:25:01,534 --> 00:25:03,703
There's nothing more
that either one of us
511
00:25:03,803 --> 00:25:08,507
want than for this to be solved
and for whoever murdered my dad
512
00:25:08,608 --> 00:25:13,245
to be caught, and at
the same time, for him
513
00:25:13,345 --> 00:25:17,684
to be also caught for the fact
that he's still terrorizing us.
514
00:25:17,784 --> 00:25:21,053
He is still making us live
a nightmare that continues
515
00:25:21,153 --> 00:25:22,655
on and on all the time.
516
00:25:26,025 --> 00:25:27,694
In his last call,
the extortionist
517
00:25:27,794 --> 00:25:29,796
told Tammy he still
planned to kill her
518
00:25:29,896 --> 00:25:33,065
and that he would strike
when she least expected it.
519
00:25:33,165 --> 00:25:34,901
Authorities know
only that the suspect
520
00:25:35,001 --> 00:25:37,203
is white, about six
feet tall, and uses
521
00:25:37,303 --> 00:25:39,739
an extensive vocabulary.
522
00:25:39,839 --> 00:25:41,540
Interestingly, they
feel that the extortion
523
00:25:41,641 --> 00:25:43,776
letters were written
by a man and a woman
524
00:25:43,876 --> 00:25:45,544
working in conjunction.
525
00:25:45,645 --> 00:25:49,548
[music playing]
526
00:25:55,154 --> 00:25:58,190
In the past four years,
68 wanted fugitives
527
00:25:58,290 --> 00:26:00,026
profiled on "Unsolved
Mysteries" have
528
00:26:00,126 --> 00:26:03,696
been captured, thanks to vital
information provided by you,
529
00:26:03,796 --> 00:26:05,097
our viewers.
530
00:26:05,197 --> 00:26:07,967
One recent case was that of
a convicted con man wanted
531
00:26:08,067 --> 00:26:11,170
by Nevada police for murder.
532
00:26:11,270 --> 00:26:13,505
Joe, come on out, Joe.
533
00:26:13,606 --> 00:26:15,742
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): On
October 6, 1990, Henderson,
534
00:26:15,842 --> 00:26:18,678
Nevada police entered the
home of 50-year-old Joe Weldon
535
00:26:18,778 --> 00:26:20,079
Smith.
536
00:26:20,179 --> 00:26:22,849
Inside the house, they found the
bodies of Smith's wife, Judith,
537
00:26:22,949 --> 00:26:25,952
and his two stepdaughters.
538
00:26:26,052 --> 00:26:28,020
All three victims
had been strangled
539
00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:31,490
and bludgeoned to death.
540
00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:33,592
[phone ringing]
541
00:26:33,693 --> 00:26:34,560
Hello?
542
00:26:34,661 --> 00:26:35,427
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Two hours
543
00:26:35,527 --> 00:26:36,763
after the bodies
were discovered,
544
00:26:36,863 --> 00:26:39,331
Joe Smith telephoned his
wife's daughter-in-law.
545
00:26:39,431 --> 00:26:42,168
He denied any involvement
in the murders.
546
00:26:42,268 --> 00:26:43,069
Joe?
What's going on?
547
00:26:43,169 --> 00:26:44,136
[inaudible]
548
00:26:44,236 --> 00:26:45,337
JOHN WILLIAMS: He
called her on the phone
549
00:26:45,437 --> 00:26:46,839
and told her that
he had killed one
550
00:26:46,939 --> 00:26:49,275
of the people that
did the killing
551
00:26:49,375 --> 00:26:50,609
and knew who the
other ones were.
552
00:26:50,710 --> 00:26:52,411
JOE WELDON SMITH: I'm going
to find the guys who did it.
553
00:26:52,511 --> 00:26:56,315
I know who they are, and
I'm going to kill them.
554
00:26:56,415 --> 00:26:59,752
JOHN WILLIAMS: In my opinion,
it was a ruse by Mr. Smith
555
00:26:59,852 --> 00:27:03,690
to get support from Judith
Smith's family members
556
00:27:03,790 --> 00:27:04,991
and make them
believe that he was
557
00:27:05,091 --> 00:27:08,060
not involved in the killings.
558
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,428
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Joe Weldon
559
00:27:09,528 --> 00:27:12,598
Smith was charged with three
counts of first degree murder.
560
00:27:12,699 --> 00:27:15,868
His whereabouts remained
a mystery until the night
561
00:27:15,968 --> 00:27:16,836
of our broadcast.
562
00:27:20,172 --> 00:27:22,641
Just minutes after we
profiled Smith's case,
563
00:27:22,742 --> 00:27:24,811
an anonymous viewer
called our telecenter
564
00:27:24,911 --> 00:27:26,879
to report that the
fugitive was living
565
00:27:26,979 --> 00:27:30,282
near Los Angeles, California.
566
00:27:30,382 --> 00:27:32,551
Smith was hiding
out at this motel,
567
00:27:32,651 --> 00:27:37,056
but managed to escape before
he could be apprehended.
568
00:27:37,156 --> 00:27:39,058
E EDWARDS: Once we established
that Joe Weldon Smith was
569
00:27:39,158 --> 00:27:41,961
in the Los Angeles area,
we focused our attention
570
00:27:42,061 --> 00:27:45,798
to his brother, who we knew
that he had close contact with.
571
00:27:45,898 --> 00:27:48,134
After five days of
surveilling this brother,
572
00:27:48,234 --> 00:27:52,939
we established where the
suspect was residing.
573
00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:55,307
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): 20
minutes later, Joe Weldon Smith
574
00:27:55,407 --> 00:27:58,644
was arrested at another local
motel, where he was registered
575
00:27:58,745 --> 00:27:59,611
under an assumed name.
576
00:28:02,648 --> 00:28:05,584
Inside Smith's room, detectives
recovered several credit
577
00:28:05,684 --> 00:28:07,519
and identification cards.
578
00:28:07,619 --> 00:28:09,922
Smith told police that
he was in the process
579
00:28:10,022 --> 00:28:12,825
of creating a new identity.
580
00:28:12,925 --> 00:28:14,193
E EDWARDS: At the
time of his arrest,
581
00:28:14,293 --> 00:28:16,662
Joe Smith indicated to me that
he had seen the last airing
582
00:28:16,763 --> 00:28:18,364
of the "Unsolved
Mystery" program,
583
00:28:18,464 --> 00:28:22,434
and he also told me that it was
very tough being a fugitive,
584
00:28:22,534 --> 00:28:25,037
and he always knew that someone
would be knocking at the door
585
00:28:25,137 --> 00:28:27,639
one day, and he was kind of glad
it's all over at this point.
586
00:28:27,740 --> 00:28:31,110
[music playing]
587
00:28:37,183 --> 00:28:39,351
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Next,
a beautiful young con artist
588
00:28:39,451 --> 00:28:41,587
embarks on a wild
shopping spree.
589
00:28:45,657 --> 00:28:49,061
[music playing]
590
00:28:55,667 --> 00:28:59,171
Las Vegas, Nevada-- the
city of light in the desert,
591
00:28:59,271 --> 00:29:02,241
a seductive town of high
rollers and big spenders, where
592
00:29:02,341 --> 00:29:06,278
money flows quickly and easily.
593
00:29:06,378 --> 00:29:08,247
On the weekend shortly
before Christmas,
594
00:29:08,347 --> 00:29:12,018
1990, an eccentric young
woman named Liza Montgomery
595
00:29:12,118 --> 00:29:16,755
again a bizarre and most unusual
shopping spree, remarkable even
596
00:29:16,856 --> 00:29:18,357
in freewheeling Las Vegas.
597
00:29:23,229 --> 00:29:26,298
On Friday afternoon,
December 21st, Liza,
598
00:29:26,398 --> 00:29:31,370
dressed to the nines, visited
local businessman, Mark Huseby.
599
00:29:31,470 --> 00:29:33,873
She was responding to
his newspaper ad offering
600
00:29:33,973 --> 00:29:38,811
to send a full length mink coat
and a two carat diamond ring.
601
00:29:38,911 --> 00:29:40,212
[knocking]
602
00:29:40,312 --> 00:29:41,413
- Hello.
- Hi, Liza.
603
00:29:41,513 --> 00:29:42,314
How are you?
604
00:29:42,414 --> 00:29:43,215
Come on in.
605
00:29:43,315 --> 00:29:44,383
Oh, thank you.
606
00:29:44,483 --> 00:29:47,219
MARK HUSEBY: Liza's
personality was like that
607
00:29:47,319 --> 00:29:48,654
of an excited schoolgirl.
608
00:29:48,754 --> 00:29:50,389
Here's your cashier's check.
609
00:29:50,489 --> 00:29:52,925
My god, there it is,
and there's the ring.
610
00:29:53,025 --> 00:29:54,593
Liza, I told
you to bring cash.
611
00:29:54,693 --> 00:29:56,528
I know, but the
bank was closing,
612
00:29:56,628 --> 00:29:58,130
and anyway, that's just as good.
613
00:29:58,230 --> 00:29:59,098
I mean, don't worry about it.
614
00:29:59,198 --> 00:30:00,232
I mean it's a good check.
615
00:30:00,332 --> 00:30:01,834
Well, can I see
your ID, please?
616
00:30:01,934 --> 00:30:03,302
Oh, sure.
617
00:30:03,402 --> 00:30:05,037
MARK HUSEBY: I asked to
see her identification,
618
00:30:05,137 --> 00:30:07,339
because I had told her
when she came to the home
619
00:30:07,439 --> 00:30:09,008
here that I did want cash.
620
00:30:09,108 --> 00:30:10,776
But I settled for
the cashier's check.
621
00:30:10,877 --> 00:30:11,710
LIZA MONTGOMERY: Thank you.
622
00:30:11,810 --> 00:30:13,279
Well, let me walk
you to the car.
623
00:30:13,379 --> 00:30:14,346
Oh, all right.
624
00:30:14,446 --> 00:30:16,048
Thank you.
625
00:30:16,148 --> 00:30:18,885
MARK HUSEBY: As I was
saying goodbye to Liza,
626
00:30:18,985 --> 00:30:22,621
and I walked her out to her car,
it seemed very unusual to me
627
00:30:22,721 --> 00:30:23,589
that she--
628
00:30:23,689 --> 00:30:25,958
how she treated the mink coat.
629
00:30:26,058 --> 00:30:29,128
She just literally
shoved it in the car,
630
00:30:29,228 --> 00:30:31,197
as if it meant nothing to her.
631
00:30:31,297 --> 00:30:32,098
Have a nice Christmas.
632
00:30:32,198 --> 00:30:34,366
Oh, you too.
633
00:30:34,466 --> 00:30:35,734
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Liza's shopping
634
00:30:35,834 --> 00:30:37,203
marathon was just beginning.
635
00:30:37,303 --> 00:30:38,437
Oh, hello.
636
00:30:38,537 --> 00:30:39,906
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
That same evening,
637
00:30:40,006 --> 00:30:41,407
she purchased two
rings, which she
638
00:30:41,507 --> 00:30:43,375
had selected the previous week.
639
00:30:43,475 --> 00:30:47,914
She paid with a cashier's
check in excess of $39,000.
640
00:30:48,014 --> 00:30:49,415
And here are your rings.
641
00:30:49,515 --> 00:30:50,349
Oh, thank you.
642
00:30:50,449 --> 00:30:52,084
They're just beautiful.
643
00:30:52,184 --> 00:30:53,252
SMILES ZEPEDA: Liza
had been coming
644
00:30:53,352 --> 00:30:55,087
to us for about three months.
645
00:30:55,187 --> 00:30:57,656
She was always well
dressed, so we never
646
00:30:57,756 --> 00:30:59,558
had a problem believing whether
or not she could actually
647
00:30:59,658 --> 00:31:01,593
afford anything she wanted to.
648
00:31:01,693 --> 00:31:03,562
You know, you're
very fortunate to get
649
00:31:03,662 --> 00:31:06,065
both of these diamonds
at this price.
650
00:31:06,165 --> 00:31:08,634
Well, that's why
they call me lucky.
651
00:31:08,734 --> 00:31:09,936
Here's your cashier's check.
652
00:31:10,036 --> 00:31:11,270
Oh, great.
This looks fine.
653
00:31:11,370 --> 00:31:12,571
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The next day,
654
00:31:12,671 --> 00:31:15,041
Liza continued her rounds
clad in the mink coat
655
00:31:15,141 --> 00:31:17,009
she had bought from
Mark Huseby, driving
656
00:31:17,109 --> 00:31:18,877
an old battered moving van.
657
00:31:18,978 --> 00:31:20,646
If you could just
write down that number.
658
00:31:20,746 --> 00:31:21,948
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
She purchased
659
00:31:22,048 --> 00:31:24,050
what she called a surprise
gift for her husband--
660
00:31:24,150 --> 00:31:30,689
$23,000 worth of furniture.
661
00:31:30,789 --> 00:31:33,392
Throughout the weekend,
Liza continued her seemingly
662
00:31:33,492 --> 00:31:35,594
endless Christmas
shopping, always
663
00:31:35,694 --> 00:31:37,896
paying with cashier's checks.
664
00:31:37,997 --> 00:31:39,631
At nine different
stores, she picked up
665
00:31:39,731 --> 00:31:42,468
an additional $100,000
worth of jewelry,
666
00:31:42,568 --> 00:31:44,603
furs, and luxury items.
667
00:31:44,703 --> 00:31:47,139
All along the way, Liza
made a big impression
668
00:31:47,239 --> 00:31:49,475
and raised quite a few eyebrows.
669
00:31:49,575 --> 00:31:52,111
People were becoming
suspicious, starting
670
00:31:52,211 --> 00:31:53,645
with businessman, Mark Huseby.
671
00:31:59,518 --> 00:32:01,153
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Shortly after selling Liza
672
00:32:01,253 --> 00:32:03,722
the mink coat and ring,
Huseby began to question
673
00:32:03,822 --> 00:32:07,059
whether Liza's check was good.
674
00:32:07,159 --> 00:32:09,295
He drove to an exclusive
gated community
675
00:32:09,395 --> 00:32:13,132
looking for the address printed
on Liz's identification card.
676
00:32:13,232 --> 00:32:15,301
Hi, do you have a
Liza Montgomery living
677
00:32:15,401 --> 00:32:18,070
here at 2901 [inaudible] Drive?
678
00:32:18,170 --> 00:32:20,339
No, sir.
MARK HUSEBY: Are you sure?
679
00:32:20,439 --> 00:32:21,340
I'm positive.
680
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,875
That address doesn't even exist.
681
00:32:23,976 --> 00:32:25,644
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Huseby immediately returned
682
00:32:25,744 --> 00:32:29,581
home and called the police.
683
00:32:29,681 --> 00:32:32,951
I explained to him that unless
or until the bank received
684
00:32:33,052 --> 00:32:35,654
that check and officially
notified him that it was
685
00:32:35,754 --> 00:32:38,624
counterfeit or somehow forged,
there was really nothing
686
00:32:38,724 --> 00:32:39,958
we could do at that point.
687
00:32:40,059 --> 00:32:41,393
Even if we were
able to find her,
688
00:32:41,493 --> 00:32:43,229
we'd have no authority
to detain her,
689
00:32:43,329 --> 00:32:46,165
simply because the address
on a cashier's check
690
00:32:46,265 --> 00:32:48,100
was somehow an error,
and that we couldn't
691
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,202
detain her just based on that.
692
00:32:50,302 --> 00:32:51,203
Be careful with that.
693
00:32:51,303 --> 00:32:52,404
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Meanwhile,
694
00:32:52,504 --> 00:32:53,572
back at the
furniture store, Liza
695
00:32:53,672 --> 00:32:55,574
was having difficulty
squeezing everything
696
00:32:55,674 --> 00:32:57,476
she had bought into the van.
697
00:32:57,576 --> 00:32:59,178
If you want to, you can
borrow one of our trucks,
698
00:32:59,278 --> 00:33:00,612
and we can follow
you over there.
699
00:33:00,712 --> 00:33:02,081
- No, thank you.
- Are you sure?
700
00:33:02,181 --> 00:33:03,382
I mean after you
surprise your husband,
701
00:33:03,482 --> 00:33:05,217
I'd be glad to help you set
up some of the furniture.
702
00:33:05,317 --> 00:33:06,352
I don't care what
you have to do.
703
00:33:06,452 --> 00:33:07,519
Just get it in there.
704
00:33:07,619 --> 00:33:09,388
Just get it in.
705
00:33:09,488 --> 00:33:10,689
OK.
706
00:33:10,789 --> 00:33:12,191
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The store owner was troubled
707
00:33:12,291 --> 00:33:14,193
by her belligerent attitude.
708
00:33:14,293 --> 00:33:15,927
Once the van was
loaded, he decided
709
00:33:16,028 --> 00:33:18,864
to follow in his own car just
to see where Liza would go.
710
00:33:24,103 --> 00:33:25,771
Before leaving,
the amateur sleuth
711
00:33:25,871 --> 00:33:28,607
gave his wife a walkie talkie
and took one for himself.
712
00:33:31,977 --> 00:33:34,113
She's turning away
from Rancho Bel Air.
713
00:33:34,213 --> 00:33:35,681
I knew she was lying.
714
00:33:35,781 --> 00:33:36,582
Call the police.
715
00:33:36,682 --> 00:33:37,916
I'm going to keep following her.
716
00:33:38,016 --> 00:33:38,817
OK.
717
00:33:41,087 --> 00:33:43,389
PAUL FIGLIA: We had learned
from dispatch that the check had
718
00:33:43,489 --> 00:33:46,192
already been passed
at the furniture store
719
00:33:46,292 --> 00:33:47,626
and that it was in
the name of Liza
720
00:33:47,726 --> 00:33:49,595
Montgomery, which was
the exact same name
721
00:33:49,695 --> 00:33:51,497
that Mark Huseby had given us.
722
00:33:51,597 --> 00:33:53,665
Based on that information,
we felt that there was enough
723
00:33:53,765 --> 00:33:56,568
corroboration now, since
there were two checks floating
724
00:33:56,668 --> 00:33:59,171
around, that she
needed to at least be
725
00:33:59,271 --> 00:34:01,607
stopped and identified.
726
00:34:01,707 --> 00:34:02,541
By the sounds of it, what?
727
00:34:02,641 --> 00:34:03,542
10 minutes away maybe?
728
00:34:03,642 --> 00:34:05,577
Six if we hurry.
729
00:34:05,677 --> 00:34:07,279
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The furniture store owner
730
00:34:07,379 --> 00:34:09,948
followed Liza's van to a
residential neighborhood
731
00:34:10,048 --> 00:34:11,950
five miles away.
732
00:34:12,050 --> 00:34:14,920
He described each
event as it unfolded.
733
00:34:15,020 --> 00:34:17,123
She just pulled over
onto a residential street
734
00:34:17,223 --> 00:34:19,825
and met up with a man standing
next to a red convertible.
735
00:34:22,628 --> 00:34:24,263
Now he's getting into the truck.
736
00:34:24,363 --> 00:34:25,331
She's getting into the car.
737
00:34:28,834 --> 00:34:31,670
They're leaving together
and heading north on Jones.
738
00:34:31,770 --> 00:34:33,071
OK.
739
00:34:33,172 --> 00:34:34,973
My husband says that the woman
made contact with the man.
740
00:34:35,073 --> 00:34:36,575
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The store owner's wife
741
00:34:36,675 --> 00:34:37,909
attempted to keep
authorities abreast
742
00:34:38,009 --> 00:34:39,044
of her husband's whereabouts.
743
00:34:39,145 --> 00:34:41,046
We advised the store
owner to try and keep up
744
00:34:41,147 --> 00:34:44,015
with the vehicle if he can,
and we'll be there momentarily,
745
00:34:44,116 --> 00:34:47,653
within two or three minutes.
746
00:34:47,753 --> 00:34:49,555
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The
van and the red convertible
747
00:34:49,655 --> 00:34:50,556
headed south.
748
00:34:50,656 --> 00:34:52,491
The store owner
remained on their heels.
749
00:34:56,195 --> 00:34:57,829
When the vehicles
reached an intersection
750
00:34:57,929 --> 00:35:01,099
on the outskirts of town, the
van made an illegal right turn
751
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,269
and sped away.
752
00:35:03,369 --> 00:35:05,171
She stopped the car.
753
00:35:05,271 --> 00:35:08,540
Oh, I better get out of here.
754
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,276
What are you doing?
755
00:35:10,376 --> 00:35:11,643
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The store owner
756
00:35:11,743 --> 00:35:14,246
was fearful that this angry
woman in a white mink coat
757
00:35:14,346 --> 00:35:15,781
might be carrying a weapon.
758
00:35:15,881 --> 00:35:18,217
He sped off with the
convertible in hot pursuit.
759
00:35:23,088 --> 00:35:25,357
After nearly a three-mile
chase, the store owner
760
00:35:25,457 --> 00:35:27,226
pulled to the side of the road.
761
00:35:27,326 --> 00:35:29,595
Liza whizzed by and disappeared.
762
00:35:32,498 --> 00:35:35,834
The police were just minutes
away, but it was too late.
763
00:35:35,934 --> 00:35:37,703
They combed a five-mile
area, searching
764
00:35:37,803 --> 00:35:39,571
for Liza and her accomplice.
765
00:35:39,671 --> 00:35:42,574
They ran checks on various
garages and warehouses hoping
766
00:35:42,674 --> 00:35:45,577
to recover the stolen
goods, but the perpetrators
767
00:35:45,677 --> 00:35:46,912
and the property were gone.
768
00:35:50,115 --> 00:35:53,885
In summary, she hit at least
12 places that we're aware of,
769
00:35:53,985 --> 00:35:58,857
and the amount of loss
to all of those in total
770
00:35:58,957 --> 00:36:01,092
was over $150,000.
771
00:36:01,193 --> 00:36:06,832
The last of the places she
hit was a gaming supply store
772
00:36:06,932 --> 00:36:09,668
at which time she bought
three slot machines, almost as
773
00:36:09,768 --> 00:36:11,503
if she wanted to take
a souvenir of Las Vegas
774
00:36:11,603 --> 00:36:14,340
with her out of town.
775
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:15,974
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Eventually, the van and
776
00:36:16,074 --> 00:36:17,676
the convertible were recovered.
777
00:36:17,776 --> 00:36:21,012
Liza had rented both
vehicles at local agencies.
778
00:36:21,112 --> 00:36:23,114
In each case, she
persuaded the rental clerk
779
00:36:23,215 --> 00:36:27,118
to accept a $500 cash deposit
in lieu of a credit card.
780
00:36:27,219 --> 00:36:29,120
The cash was never reclaimed.
781
00:36:32,924 --> 00:36:35,994
Usually, we only
find this type of skill
782
00:36:36,094 --> 00:36:38,297
amongst people who
are going to get
783
00:36:38,397 --> 00:36:40,165
involved in a scam
that's worth thousands
784
00:36:40,266 --> 00:36:41,500
upon thousands of dollars.
785
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:46,238
For the most part, some of
these nickel and dime con games
786
00:36:46,338 --> 00:36:48,139
fall through when the
victim looks straight
787
00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:51,810
through the suspect and is able
to see that it is a con game.
788
00:36:51,910 --> 00:36:53,645
But when we talk about
big money like this,
789
00:36:53,745 --> 00:36:54,880
if they're going to
get away with it,
790
00:36:54,980 --> 00:36:56,147
they're going to
have to be very good,
791
00:36:56,248 --> 00:36:59,050
and Liza was one of the best.
792
00:36:59,150 --> 00:37:01,086
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Liza
Montgomery did leave behind one
793
00:37:01,186 --> 00:37:03,054
significant piece of evidence.
794
00:37:03,154 --> 00:37:04,990
When she rented the
van, the clerk made
795
00:37:05,090 --> 00:37:08,159
this copy of her state ID card.
796
00:37:08,260 --> 00:37:12,063
[music playing]
797
00:37:29,681 --> 00:37:32,551
When we return, an
intriguing eyewitness account
798
00:37:32,651 --> 00:37:35,721
may help solve a string
of bizarre disappearances.
799
00:37:38,790 --> 00:37:42,661
[music playing]
800
00:37:44,763 --> 00:37:48,600
[sirens]
801
00:37:49,701 --> 00:37:54,673
February 4th, 1990, 4:30 AM--
802
00:37:54,773 --> 00:37:56,742
sheriff's deputies
responded to a call
803
00:37:56,842 --> 00:37:59,277
at a convenience store
in Orlando, Florida.
804
00:37:59,378 --> 00:38:00,746
Who here called
the sheriff's office?
805
00:38:00,846 --> 00:38:02,047
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Two customers
806
00:38:02,147 --> 00:38:03,815
and found the all
night market open,
807
00:38:03,915 --> 00:38:06,752
but curiously, unattended.
808
00:38:06,852 --> 00:38:09,087
No one was minding the store.
809
00:38:09,187 --> 00:38:11,890
A friend of mine works here,
and I stopped in to say hello.
810
00:38:11,990 --> 00:38:13,124
And she wasn't here.
811
00:38:13,224 --> 00:38:14,025
I don't know where she is.
812
00:38:14,125 --> 00:38:16,962
She just kind of disappeared.
813
00:38:17,062 --> 00:38:18,296
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Deputies
814
00:38:18,397 --> 00:38:22,734
immediately searched for any
signs of the missing clerk.
815
00:38:22,834 --> 00:38:25,771
Behind the counter, they found
a work smock neatly folded.
816
00:38:28,607 --> 00:38:30,376
The cash register
was locked, and there
817
00:38:30,476 --> 00:38:31,910
was no evidence of a robbery.
818
00:38:34,813 --> 00:38:37,282
RIGGS GAY: The store appeared
to be just abandoned.
819
00:38:40,218 --> 00:38:42,688
There was absolutely no
signs of any struggle.
820
00:38:42,788 --> 00:38:44,656
Nothing appeared to be
missing from the store
821
00:38:44,756 --> 00:38:47,559
with the exception
of the store clerk.
822
00:38:47,659 --> 00:38:48,994
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The missing clerk
823
00:38:49,094 --> 00:38:51,430
was 26-year-old
Deborah Deann Poe,
824
00:38:51,530 --> 00:38:53,665
who worked days at a
local newspaper and nights
825
00:38:53,765 --> 00:38:54,566
at the store.
826
00:38:57,969 --> 00:38:59,505
Deborah had moved
to Orlando just
827
00:38:59,605 --> 00:39:01,072
four months earlier
with her friend
828
00:39:01,172 --> 00:39:04,743
and roommate, Lori Tillman.
829
00:39:04,843 --> 00:39:07,278
LORI TILLMAN: Debbie and
I were more like sisters
830
00:39:07,379 --> 00:39:10,248
than I am with my own sister.
831
00:39:10,348 --> 00:39:12,350
We had a very
unusual friendship.
832
00:39:12,451 --> 00:39:14,052
We could fight
like sisters do, we
833
00:39:14,152 --> 00:39:16,087
could ignore each
other like sisters do,
834
00:39:16,187 --> 00:39:17,623
but we were there
for each other.
835
00:39:17,723 --> 00:39:20,325
If we ever needed anything,
we could count on one another.
836
00:39:20,426 --> 00:39:21,793
Good evening, sir.
837
00:39:21,893 --> 00:39:22,928
That's $1.89.
838
00:39:23,028 --> 00:39:24,229
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The most dangerous
839
00:39:24,329 --> 00:39:25,497
time for convenience
store employees
840
00:39:25,597 --> 00:39:27,666
is the graveyard shift.
841
00:39:27,766 --> 00:39:28,934
This was Deborah's shift.
842
00:39:32,938 --> 00:39:35,741
Five nights a week from
11:00 PM to 7:00 AM,
843
00:39:35,841 --> 00:39:37,943
she was behind
the counter alone.
844
00:39:40,746 --> 00:39:41,747
How ya'll doing?
845
00:39:41,847 --> 00:39:43,715
Seeing a lady tonight
on a Saturday night?
846
00:39:43,815 --> 00:39:44,916
There you go.
847
00:39:45,016 --> 00:39:46,752
LORI TILLMAN: She needed
to work and get the money.
848
00:39:46,852 --> 00:39:48,954
She had a brand
new car to pay for.
849
00:39:49,054 --> 00:39:52,891
She wanted to buy a house, and
she wanted to start a business.
850
00:39:52,991 --> 00:39:54,225
So if it meant
working two full time
851
00:39:54,325 --> 00:39:56,161
jobs that she really didn't
like, that's what she'd do.
852
00:39:58,597 --> 00:40:00,499
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Just
after 11 o'clock on the night
853
00:40:00,599 --> 00:40:03,368
she disappeared, a friend of
Deborah's dropped by to discuss
854
00:40:03,469 --> 00:40:06,004
some house plans with her.
855
00:40:06,104 --> 00:40:06,905
That's what I want.
856
00:40:07,005 --> 00:40:08,507
I don't know if I can afford it.
857
00:40:08,607 --> 00:40:10,275
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Police verified that Deborah
858
00:40:10,375 --> 00:40:11,977
waited on customers
from the time
859
00:40:12,077 --> 00:40:14,580
her friend left until 3:05 AM.
860
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:15,614
I've got to take care of her.
861
00:40:15,714 --> 00:40:17,048
I'm sorry.
862
00:40:17,148 --> 00:40:19,951
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): When
her friend returned at 3:50 AM,
863
00:40:20,051 --> 00:40:21,753
Deborah was nowhere to be found.
864
00:40:26,925 --> 00:40:30,596
Her vehicle was parked
where she parked it that night
865
00:40:30,696 --> 00:40:33,632
when she came to work.
866
00:40:33,732 --> 00:40:34,966
It had not been disturbed.
867
00:40:35,066 --> 00:40:40,472
It was locked, and her purse
was sitting on the backseat.
868
00:40:40,572 --> 00:40:41,773
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Investigators
869
00:40:41,873 --> 00:40:45,010
concluded that Deborah Poe
had probably been abducted.
870
00:40:45,110 --> 00:40:47,078
Looks to be about
$25 cash in here.
871
00:40:47,178 --> 00:40:48,614
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
They soon discovered
872
00:40:48,714 --> 00:40:50,315
that Deborah was
not the first store
873
00:40:50,415 --> 00:40:53,451
clerk in Florida to disappear
on the graveyard shift.
874
00:40:56,421 --> 00:40:59,791
Six months earlier,
on August 6th, 1989,
875
00:40:59,891 --> 00:41:02,961
29-year-old Donna Callahan
disappeared from a convenience
876
00:41:03,061 --> 00:41:05,664
store in Gulf Breeze, Florida.
877
00:41:05,764 --> 00:41:07,566
As in Deborah's case,
there were no signs
878
00:41:07,666 --> 00:41:09,801
of struggle at the scene.
879
00:41:09,901 --> 00:41:11,637
Donna was three months
pregnant and left
880
00:41:11,737 --> 00:41:13,271
behind a two-year-old daughter.
881
00:41:15,941 --> 00:41:18,343
Five weeks later,
on September 18th,
882
00:41:18,443 --> 00:41:21,346
36-year-old Darlene Messer
was abducted from a Lake
883
00:41:21,446 --> 00:41:23,481
City convenience store.
884
00:41:23,582 --> 00:41:27,452
Two days later, Darlene's body
was found in a nearby creek.
885
00:41:27,553 --> 00:41:28,787
She had been
bludgeoned to death.
886
00:41:31,723 --> 00:41:35,426
Three victims, all single
females in their 20s or 30s--
887
00:41:35,527 --> 00:41:39,097
all had vanished while working
the graveyard shift alone.
888
00:41:39,197 --> 00:41:41,199
Investigators believe
that the cases were linked
889
00:41:41,299 --> 00:41:43,101
but had no suspect.
890
00:41:43,201 --> 00:41:45,470
Then three days after
Deborah Poe's disappearance,
891
00:41:45,571 --> 00:41:47,539
authorities were contacted
by a young woman,
892
00:41:47,639 --> 00:41:50,542
who read about the
case in a local paper.
893
00:41:50,642 --> 00:41:52,578
She came forward after
realizing that she
894
00:41:52,678 --> 00:41:55,480
may have stood face to face
with Deborah Poe's abductor.
895
00:41:59,718 --> 00:42:02,688
WITNESS: I stopped by a
convenience store about 3:30
896
00:42:02,788 --> 00:42:05,190
to pick up a pack of
cigarettes, and there was
897
00:42:05,290 --> 00:42:06,992
only one person in the store.
898
00:42:07,092 --> 00:42:08,193
And it appeared to be the clerk.
899
00:42:11,797 --> 00:42:13,765
Looking back on
it, he didn't know
900
00:42:13,865 --> 00:42:15,867
where the cigarettes
were, which isn't that
901
00:42:15,967 --> 00:42:19,270
uncommon if it's a new clerk.
902
00:42:19,370 --> 00:42:22,073
And I had to point out
which ones I wanted.
903
00:42:22,173 --> 00:42:24,409
No, the regular ones
up top over there.
904
00:42:24,509 --> 00:42:27,145
WITNESS: He had
long, stringy hair.
905
00:42:27,245 --> 00:42:28,980
He was wearing an
earring of a cross.
906
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,982
You really shouldn't
smoke, you know.
907
00:42:31,082 --> 00:42:32,951
WITNESS: And a skull's ring.
908
00:42:33,051 --> 00:42:34,452
Yeah, right
909
00:42:34,552 --> 00:42:38,857
WITNESS: And he had a rock
t-shirt and the name, Megadeth,
910
00:42:38,957 --> 00:42:39,758
across the top.
911
00:42:42,794 --> 00:42:47,498
We cannot locate anyone else
that has been able to tell us
912
00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:49,434
whether or not this
individual was in the store
913
00:42:49,534 --> 00:42:51,970
when they were in the store.
914
00:42:52,070 --> 00:42:54,873
He might have been a customer
that walked in and was walking
915
00:42:54,973 --> 00:42:56,942
around looking for the clerk.
916
00:42:57,042 --> 00:42:58,343
He might have been
an individual,
917
00:42:58,443 --> 00:43:03,248
who was taking an opportunity to
shoplift or steal some things.
918
00:43:03,348 --> 00:43:05,516
Or he might be
responsible or, in part,
919
00:43:05,617 --> 00:43:09,755
responsible for the
abduction of Deborah Poe.
920
00:43:09,855 --> 00:43:12,023
There's a good
possibility that we're
921
00:43:12,123 --> 00:43:16,461
dealing with an individual,
who is a serial type of person,
922
00:43:16,561 --> 00:43:19,097
who abducts these people.
923
00:43:19,197 --> 00:43:20,431
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Deborah Poe is
924
00:43:20,531 --> 00:43:22,834
officially listed as missing.
925
00:43:22,934 --> 00:43:26,004
She is 26 years old, five
feet, two inches tall,
926
00:43:26,104 --> 00:43:28,306
and weighs approximately
105 pounds.
927
00:43:31,076 --> 00:43:34,880
LORI TILLMAN: If we don't find
her alive, then we can at least
928
00:43:34,980 --> 00:43:38,884
put her to rest, give
her a decent service,
929
00:43:38,984 --> 00:43:40,551
go after her killer.
930
00:43:40,652 --> 00:43:44,522
[music playing]
931
00:44:08,947 --> 00:44:10,816
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
This Sunday, a special edition
932
00:44:10,916 --> 00:44:12,417
of "Unsolved Mysteries--
933
00:44:12,517 --> 00:44:14,185
The Investigators."
934
00:44:14,285 --> 00:44:16,254
In North Dakota,
a woman dies when
935
00:44:16,354 --> 00:44:19,991
her car is engulfed in flames
on an isolated country road.
936
00:44:20,091 --> 00:44:22,427
This controversial case
pits two investigators
937
00:44:22,527 --> 00:44:23,929
against each other.
938
00:44:24,029 --> 00:44:25,596
One says it was an accident.
939
00:44:25,697 --> 00:44:28,834
The other is convinced
it was murder.
940
00:44:28,934 --> 00:44:33,371
Join me Sunday night at 8:00
for these fascinating profiles,
941
00:44:33,471 --> 00:44:36,141
The Investigators on
"Unsolved Mysteries."
942
00:44:36,241 --> 00:44:39,477
[music playing]
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