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NARRATOR: This program is
about unsolved mysteries.
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Whenever possible, the
actual family members
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and police officials
have participated
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in recreating the events.
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What you are about to see
is not a news broadcast.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
On the eve of Halloween,
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two intriguing ghost stories
on "Unsolved Mysteries."
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In its heyday, the old St.
James Hotel in New Mexico
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was host to a long list
of legendary gunslingers
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and outlaws.
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Today, employees
report different kinds
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of guests, unearthly visitors
that never check out.
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For years, June Farris
dreamed of a strange house
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that she had never
seen or even been in.
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Later, she found herself living
in that same house for years
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before the previous
owner had been murdered.
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She and her family believe
that his spirit is still there.
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We'll also profile
the baffling case
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of Mary Anne Perez, who vanished
without a trace in 1976.
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15 years later, an anonymous
caller contacted her family,
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claiming that not only
was Maryanne still alive,
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but she was being held
captive against her will.
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And authorities need
your help to track down
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a clever and corpulent
conman who masquerades
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as a bona fide physician
and hoodwinks even the most
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sophisticated of victims.
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Call him Doctor Fraud.
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Join me.
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Perhaps you may be able
to help solve a mystery
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or perhaps you may
encounter one that
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simply cannot be explained.
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[theme music]
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Tomorrow brings a
one night each year,
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which seems to bring
out the wide eyed child
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in all of us, Halloween.
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As darkness falls, our
imaginations take flight.
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Houses begin to whisper and
creek, shadows come to life,
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the sky fills with
ghosts and goblins.
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But in Cimarron, New
Mexico, Halloween
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is an everyday occurrence
at the old St. James
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Hotel, which some say is haunted
by the spirits of the Wild
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West.
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When I bought
the hotel, I didn't
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believe in ghosts at all.
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Now, after the
convincing evidence
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of the last five years,
I'm certain that there
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are ghosts here.
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They are indeed real to me.
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They are not something
that I have made up.
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They are indeed in this hotel.
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The ghosts are here.
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Are they haunting it?
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No, I think they're
just living here.
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There are places where the
emotions have been very strong
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and it's something like the
energy gets captured or caught,
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and this hotel is
certainly one of them.
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[western piano music playing]
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
In its heyday,
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the St. James Hotel offered good
food, attractive dancing girls,
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and comfortable beds for
such wild and woolly guests
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as Jesse James, Bat
Masterson, Annie Oakley,
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Doc Holiday, and Wyatt Earp.
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But as the glory days
of the old west faded,
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the hotel fell into disrepair.
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Just got one more wall left.
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Yeah, we're about finished.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): In 1985,
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Ed Sitzberger and his wife,
Pat, purchased the St. James.
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[inaudible] goes on forever
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
They planned to bring
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the old hotel back to life.
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Ah, we'll get there.
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[lightning and thunder]
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The Sitzbergers
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soon discovered that the St.
James had a life of its own.
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PATRICIA (VOICEOVER): I wanted
to see how many leaks ran
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the hotel and so I
got my friend to come
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with me to go through the
hotel with our flashlight.
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We finished doing
all the checking
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and put out some buckets here
and there, because we did have
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some leaks, and then we
turned the chandelier off,
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and then went downstairs
and at the hotel.
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And for some reason,
I turned back up
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and looked back up
to the second story,
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and the chandelier was on.
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I don't believe it.
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We got to go back in.
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I'm sure I turned this off.
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[light clicks off]
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When we got out and had
locked the door, and looked
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back up again, and the
light was again on.
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So we went through the
hotel, again, and turned
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the chandelier off, and
came back down the stairs,
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and out again.
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Locked the door, looked
back up, and it was on.
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The last time we went
up, we went down the hall
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and I turned back
to John and I said,
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well, the former
owners had told us
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about some things
that had happened
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previously in the hotel.
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Let me just try something.
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And so before I turned
the chandelier off,
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this time I said, I don't know
who you are or why you're here,
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but I'm tired and I really
don't want to play tonight.
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I'm glad you're here, but could
we please play another day?
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And at that point I pulled
the cord on the chandelier
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and heard a click, and
we turned around and back
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down the stairs,
and I looked up,
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and indeed, the
light had stayed off.
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All right.
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First, I thought maybe it
was an electrical problem
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because it's an old hotel, but
after doing it three or four
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times, it couldn't have been.
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And I could hear it shut off,
and the three times that I shut
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it off, the click of the switch,
and so there was no reason
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for it coming back on.
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[click]
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
According to the Sitzbergers,
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the hotel is haunted
top to bottom.
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[clicking]
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Guests in room 17 have reported
a persistent eerie tapping
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noise whenever the
window is open.
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[clicking speeds up]
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[window shuts]
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[clicking ceases]
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In the kitchen, the
cook has witnessed
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several bizarre occurrences.
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And in May of 1988,
Charlie Varela,
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a local high school student,
was cleaning the bar at 5:00 AM.
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Charlie thought he was alone.
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CHARLIE (VOICEOVER): It
was kind of dark in there
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and I was going to back to
get some liners for the trash,
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and as I was going back to it,
I just glanced over to the bar.
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And I just--
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I seen a little boy sitting on
the bar and spinning the glass.
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You can hear it on the
table go (WHIRRING),
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spinning and just
perfectly spinning.
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At first, I thought it was
a little boy from upstairs,
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and he was just
down, messing around.
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I was going telling
him, excuse me,
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you're not supposed
to be in here.
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But when I went to make the move
to tell him, he turned around.
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CHARLIE (VOICEOVER):
His face was hideous.
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He just jumped off and just
scared me, and I just took off.
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I quit that morning.
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I just-- seeing that, it
scared me, and I didn't want
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to work here anymore.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Dr. Kenneth Wright, a surgeon
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and amateur ghost hunter, heard
about the spirits at the St.
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James and came to investigate.
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Let's go inside.
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PATRICIA (VOICEOVER): When Dr.
Wright asked me to go into room
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18, I was a little skeptical
because I had been in there
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many times before and
had felt the chilliness,
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and the negativeness in there.
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The room was cold,
and when I looked up
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in the upper left hand corner,
the was a whirling that
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was going on in the corner.
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You couldn't see the
corner of the room.
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It was like a white swirl.
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There was this
anger and hatred,
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and instantly, I was
filled with terror.
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I was gasping for breath
because I had not expected it,
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did not encounter it.
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I've never been that
terrified in my life
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and as this was happening
to me, I heard Pat saying--
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You can go.
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You're free to go.
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You can go.
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[spirit whirring]
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PATRICIA (VOICEOVER):
I couldn't believe
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what was happening to me.
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I don't know what the
swirling presence was.
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It was negative, it was cold, it
felt like it was from the past.
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It didn't want me there.
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That was very obvious.
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He was angry at her
because it was his place
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and she was telling him
that he was free to leave.
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And he was telling her you
don't tell me I am free.
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This is-- you leave.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Next, Ed
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Sitzberger contacted
Jackie Littlejohn,
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a psychic from Albuquerque.
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Jackie claims to be
able to communicate
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with the spirit world.
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JACKIE: I was able to sense
physical violence, a gunshot.
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It was so strong, I stepped
back where I could see,
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and feel, and smell.
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The evidence of
violence was so intense.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
During her tour of the hotel,
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Jackie claims she had a
vision of a deadly poker game.
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JACKIE (VOICEOVER): The
poker game had been going on
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for a long time and
it was a feeling
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that either the hotel was at
stake or a very large heard.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
According to Jackie,
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one of the card
players was a man whose
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ghost now inhabits room 18.
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[footsteps]
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[gunshot]
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JACKIE (VOICEOVER): He
died of blood poisoning.
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Very slow, very painful,
very dreadful, desperate.
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Desperate man, very fearful.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Jackie
says the dead man's name was
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T.J Wright, and that he probably
won the hotel in the poker game
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just before he was killed.
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ED (VOICEOVER): We wanted
to look back in the records
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and corroborate the story.
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So we went back and looked
at the hotel register in 1881
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and found T.J Wright registered
three different days in 1881.
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It just is reasonable
to me that he believes
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he owns the hotel still and
wants to maintain possession,
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or at least live here.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Ed Sitzberger
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keeps the old registry
locked in a glass case,
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and he is certain that
Jackie Littlejohn never
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had access to it.
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There is, of course, no way
to prove that the ghost of T.J
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Wright is now haunting
room 18, but Ed Sitzberger
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is not taking any chances.
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ED (VOICEOVER):
There's no construction
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activity in that
room or renovation
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work that's going to be done.
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That's his room, as
far as I'm concerned,
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as a permanent resident for
as long as I have the hotel.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Is it truly possible
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that the St. James
Hotel is haunted
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by the spirits of the old west?
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[rolling thunder]
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The firsthand accounts
you've just heard
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are definitely
difficult to believe,
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but if you can offer a better
explanation for what goes on
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in the old hotel, the
folks at the St. James
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would certainly like to hear it.
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When we return, a
family in Florida
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claims that the ghost
of a murder victim
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has returned to haunt
the scene of the crime.
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[theme music]
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[crickets chirping]
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): August
1968, in Richmond, Virginia,
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a woman named June
Ferris is having
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a disturbing dream about
a strange house she has
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never set foot in or even seen.
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The dream has plagued
her for months.
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JUNE (VOICEOVER): In the dream
I was in an upstairs bedroom,
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and I would come
out of the bedroom,
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go out into the hallway, and
I would turn to the right,
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and go down the
narrow staircase.
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I knew the house had
a front staircase,
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but I never used the front
staircase in the dream.
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It was always the back.
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And I would turn to the left
and go through the kitchen,
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around the
refrigerator and stove
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that were on the one wall.
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I had a feeling of anxiety.
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An anxious feeling
that something
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was going to happen that
I should know about.
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And I would go out the
kitchen door, onto the porch.
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[door slams]
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And that's where
I would wake up.
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[exhales]
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And I suppose that
this dream continued
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maybe once a month
until we moved
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to Orlando, four years later.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
June and her family
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moved to Florida in 1972.
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Two years later, she was
driving through the small town
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of Clermont, Florida,
when she came upon a house
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that enchanted her.
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I've always liked
old Victorian houses.
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It was such a lovely home.
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So I called the realtor and
asked if I could go through it.
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This is great.
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How ever did you
find this place?
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I just drove by on the
side, it was right out front.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
June returned with a friend
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for a closer look.
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Once inside, June began to
experience an eerie sensation.
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Let's go upstairs.
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OK.
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JUNE (VOICEOVER): We went
through the downstairs
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first, and went up
the front staircase,
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and I had a feeling of--
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I guess you would say, deja vu.
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I had definitely
been here before.
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Oh look, more stairs.
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I wonder where they go.
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I know where they go.
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JUNE: They go down through
the kitchen, past the stove,
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and onto the back porch.
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How do you know that?
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I've dreamed about this house.
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JUNE (VOICEOVER): So as we
walked through the house,
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it definitely was the
same house of the dream.
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And I knew every room in
the house, every closet,
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where everything was.
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It was just a real
unusual experience.
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Not scary.
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I didn't feel spooked.
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It was just-- it
was a good feeling.
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It was a feeling
like I had come home.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
In March of 1978, June,
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and her husband, and
three of their children
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moved into the old house.
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Almost immediately, odd
things began to happen.
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ROBIN (VOICEOVER): My father
had brought the boat out
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on the trailer and trailer hitch
was on a sawhorse type stand,
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and it looked as if
someone had reached over,
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picked the trailer hitch up, and
just dropped it on the ground.
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Robin, what are You doing
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I didn't do it.
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ROBIN (VOICEOVER):
There was nobody there.
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I mean, it was blank space.
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It wasn't like it jumped off.
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It was like someone had actually
lifted it off of the stand
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and dropped it, and it happened
several times again afterwards.
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It was so fast
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[thud]
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that you really wanted
to think to yourself,
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did I really see that?
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Did that really happen?
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That it was just shock.
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Absolute shock.
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[crickets chirping]
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Over the next few years,
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the Farris's were
to witness more
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and ever stranger occurrences.
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[music box playing]
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[music boxes playing faster]
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The extraordinary
became the ordinary,
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and the family began
to suspect that they
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were not the only ones
living in a house.
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ROBIN (VOICEOVER): I
was about 20 or 21.
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It was when my husband
David and I were married
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and we were living
in my mother's house.
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He woke me up in the middle
of the night one night.
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Robin, what was that?
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Listen.
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Sounds like my music boxes.
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ROBIN (VOICEOVER): He knew
that the house was haunted
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and he was just terrified.
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[music boxes playing]
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The switches were not on.
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They were just wound up
and they were playing.
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All of them were playing.
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The music boxes coming on really
assured me that we definitely
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had a ghost in that house, and
I felt like we did before then.
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It wasn't scary to me anymore.
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It was kind of fascinating.
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00:18:18,298 --> 00:18:20,867
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In
1985, Bob Vitter began dating
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June's younger daughter, Lori.
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I was a firm
disbeliever in ghosts,
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but after everything that's
happened to me in that house,
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00:18:28,908 --> 00:18:30,777
there is such a thing
as ghosts, and there
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00:18:30,877 --> 00:18:32,512
is a ghost in that house.
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00:18:32,612 --> 00:18:34,281
[tv playing]
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BOB (VOICEOVER): A couple of
nights before Halloween, Laura
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and I were in the
parlor on the couch,
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and we heard the back
screen door slam.
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[door slams]
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00:18:41,588 --> 00:18:42,689
What was that?
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00:18:42,789 --> 00:18:43,590
It's just my mom.
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00:18:43,690 --> 00:18:44,491
Oh.
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00:18:44,591 --> 00:18:45,558
[footsteps]
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BOB (VOICEOVER): I heard
something with boots
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come through the kitchen--
- That's not your mother.
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BOB (VOICEOVER): And
walked down the hallway,
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and stop in the opening
going into the parlor,
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and I had a feeling
that whatever it was,
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it was standing right
there, watching us.
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00:19:03,142 --> 00:19:06,179
And the sound of its boots
continued down the hallway,
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00:19:06,279 --> 00:19:08,147
and I followed it,
and at that point,
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I was really very, very scared.
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[footsteps continue]
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00:19:16,389 --> 00:19:17,890
I never encountered
anything like that.
375
00:19:21,093 --> 00:19:22,895
I was just so terrified,
I couldn't even move.
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00:19:22,995 --> 00:19:24,864
[footsteps grow quieter]
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00:19:24,964 --> 00:19:26,366
[door slams]
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): By
now, everyone was convinced
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that the house was haunted.
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But no one had actually
seen a ghost, yet.
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00:19:39,879 --> 00:19:41,648
ROBIN (VOICEOVER): I was
walking up the stairway
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in the foyer of the house.
383
00:19:43,683 --> 00:19:44,951
I felt a cold chill.
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00:19:45,051 --> 00:19:46,519
It's almost like when
you open your freezer
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00:19:46,619 --> 00:19:47,420
in the hot summer time.
386
00:19:54,461 --> 00:19:59,599
It was very definitely
a person and he was very
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early middle age or late 30s.
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00:20:02,635 --> 00:20:04,371
And it was just
like a vapor, just
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00:20:04,471 --> 00:20:06,473
like a cloud of smoke kind of.
390
00:20:06,573 --> 00:20:08,875
It's there and then it's gone.
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00:20:08,975 --> 00:20:10,510
But it was very definite.
392
00:20:10,610 --> 00:20:11,944
It was very definitely a person.
393
00:20:15,482 --> 00:20:17,250
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Three months later, Bob Vitter
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00:20:17,350 --> 00:20:20,887
had his own ghostly encounter.
395
00:20:20,987 --> 00:20:22,855
BOB (VOICEOVER): I was
upstairs preparing to paint.
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00:20:22,955 --> 00:20:27,126
I opened the attic door
and there in front of me
397
00:20:27,226 --> 00:20:32,899
was a white vapor, almost
in the shape of a human.
398
00:20:32,999 --> 00:20:35,702
And as I took another step
forward, this vapor came at me,
399
00:20:35,802 --> 00:20:37,570
and it went right through me.
400
00:20:40,473 --> 00:20:43,876
And I felt a cold blast of
air and the musty smell that
401
00:20:43,976 --> 00:20:47,880
always accompanied the ghost.
402
00:20:47,980 --> 00:20:51,117
And just as quickly as it
went through me, it was over.
403
00:20:54,554 --> 00:20:56,255
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
In October 1985,
404
00:20:56,356 --> 00:21:00,460
Bob Vitter began looking into
the history of the old mansion.
405
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,863
In a local library, he found
volumes of old newspapers
406
00:21:03,963 --> 00:21:06,966
and was startled to discover
an account of a brutal murder
407
00:21:07,066 --> 00:21:09,068
in which the owner of
the house was gunned
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00:21:09,168 --> 00:21:11,571
down in his own backyard.
409
00:21:11,671 --> 00:21:14,240
The victim's name
was John Harden.
410
00:21:14,341 --> 00:21:15,875
Bob began to believe
that if there
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00:21:15,975 --> 00:21:18,010
were a ghost in
the house, perhaps
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00:21:18,110 --> 00:21:19,612
it was the ghost of John Harden.
413
00:21:24,451 --> 00:21:26,886
Hardin grew up in South
Florida, and at 18,
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00:21:26,986 --> 00:21:30,222
married his high school
sweetheart, Rita.
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00:21:30,323 --> 00:21:31,858
Together, they
raised four children
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00:21:31,958 --> 00:21:34,694
in Jacksonville, Florida.
417
00:21:34,794 --> 00:21:37,129
Every moment with
him was wonderful.
418
00:21:37,229 --> 00:21:38,898
He was a good person.
419
00:21:38,998 --> 00:21:41,468
He was always caring, not
only about his family,
420
00:21:41,568 --> 00:21:43,035
but his friends.
421
00:21:43,135 --> 00:21:44,236
You know, everybody.
422
00:21:44,337 --> 00:21:47,139
He was always concerned
about everyone around him,
423
00:21:47,239 --> 00:21:50,810
everyone that touched his life.
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00:21:50,910 --> 00:21:53,045
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): But
after 14 years of marriage,
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00:21:53,145 --> 00:21:57,550
John Harden dropped a
bombshell on his wife.
426
00:21:57,650 --> 00:21:59,419
RITA (VOICEOVER): He came
in from work one afternoon.
427
00:21:59,519 --> 00:22:00,520
I love you, you know that.
428
00:22:00,620 --> 00:22:01,421
RITA (VOICEOVER): Put
his arms around me.
429
00:22:01,521 --> 00:22:02,455
Yes, I do.
430
00:22:02,555 --> 00:22:05,191
RITA (VOICEOVER):
He said, I love you.
431
00:22:05,291 --> 00:22:07,159
I have to go away.
432
00:22:07,259 --> 00:22:09,562
What do you mean?
433
00:22:09,662 --> 00:22:12,365
I have to leave for a while.
434
00:22:12,465 --> 00:22:14,266
He said, I have some problems.
435
00:22:14,367 --> 00:22:15,568
I'm going to get
myself together.
436
00:22:15,668 --> 00:22:20,006
I'll be home, but
he never came home.
437
00:22:20,106 --> 00:22:20,907
[birds chirping]
438
00:22:21,007 --> 00:22:22,509
Good morning!
439
00:22:22,609 --> 00:22:23,476
RITA: Good morning!
440
00:22:23,576 --> 00:22:24,577
Are you the owner?
441
00:22:24,677 --> 00:22:25,778
Yes, I am.
442
00:22:25,878 --> 00:22:26,479
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
About a year and a half
443
00:22:26,579 --> 00:22:27,514
later, Harden remarried.
444
00:22:27,614 --> 00:22:28,648
Yeah, uh, beautiful
house [inaudible].
445
00:22:28,748 --> 00:22:29,949
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
He his second wife
446
00:22:30,049 --> 00:22:31,518
moved to Clermont,
where they purchased
447
00:22:31,618 --> 00:22:32,952
the old Victorian mansion.
448
00:22:36,623 --> 00:22:39,291
Nine months later, John
Harden awoke to a disturbance
449
00:22:39,392 --> 00:22:40,660
outside of his bedroom window.
450
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,361
[soft sound of flames]
451
00:22:42,462 --> 00:22:45,164
Harden's pickup truck
was engulfed in flames.
452
00:22:55,274 --> 00:22:57,109
[flames grow louder]
453
00:22:57,209 --> 00:23:01,047
It was later determined that
the fire been deliberately set.
454
00:23:10,557 --> 00:23:11,958
[gunshot]
455
00:23:15,528 --> 00:23:18,598
Harden lay mortally wounded,
shot once in the chest
456
00:23:18,698 --> 00:23:20,533
with a single barreled shotgun.
457
00:23:20,633 --> 00:23:23,335
He died less than an hour later.
458
00:23:23,436 --> 00:23:27,707
No one was ever arrested in
connection with the shooting.
459
00:23:27,807 --> 00:23:29,909
Had there been
a motive, we could
460
00:23:30,009 --> 00:23:34,180
have proceeded with the case
and investigation a lot better.
461
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,083
There was several things that
was brought to our attention,
462
00:23:37,183 --> 00:23:41,454
but there was never a
firm motive established.
463
00:23:41,554 --> 00:23:43,422
[POLICE CHATTER ON WALKIE
TALKIE]
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BRUCE (VOICEOVER): We
had absolutely nothing
465
00:23:44,991 --> 00:23:47,093
after three and a half months
of a great deal of travel,
466
00:23:47,193 --> 00:23:49,596
and interviewing literally
hundreds of witnesses.
467
00:23:49,696 --> 00:23:50,930
We didn't have any
more at the end
468
00:23:51,030 --> 00:23:53,600
of the three and a half months
than we had when we started.
469
00:23:53,700 --> 00:23:58,971
On a scale of 1 to 10
difficulty of solving a crime,
470
00:23:59,071 --> 00:24:01,307
this is probably about as close
to a 10 as I've ever seen.
471
00:24:04,210 --> 00:24:06,178
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Could
John Harden's spirit possibly
472
00:24:06,278 --> 00:24:08,581
be haunting his
former residence?
473
00:24:08,681 --> 00:24:11,784
There do seem to be amazing
similarities between the ghost
474
00:24:11,884 --> 00:24:14,186
and the man himself.
475
00:24:14,286 --> 00:24:17,757
According to his first wife,
Harden was a loving and overly
476
00:24:17,857 --> 00:24:20,226
protective parent.
477
00:24:20,326 --> 00:24:21,828
RITA (VOICEOVER): When
our children were little,
478
00:24:21,928 --> 00:24:24,463
Johnny would be very
concerned about them,
479
00:24:24,564 --> 00:24:27,066
always going to the
other room to check them
480
00:24:27,166 --> 00:24:28,334
just to be sure they were OK.
481
00:24:28,434 --> 00:24:32,905
To be sure they weren't
wrapped up in the covers or--
482
00:24:33,005 --> 00:24:35,742
always wanting to be sure
that they were all right.
483
00:24:35,842 --> 00:24:38,210
Very concerned
about them, always.
484
00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:41,714
Even as they got older,
he was always concerned.
485
00:24:44,383 --> 00:24:45,552
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): The Farris's
486
00:24:45,652 --> 00:24:47,554
believe that the
spirit in their house
487
00:24:47,654 --> 00:24:50,923
has the same nurturing attitude.
488
00:24:51,023 --> 00:24:52,191
JUNE (VOICEOVER):
Apparently, he was
489
00:24:52,291 --> 00:24:56,028
very fond of children and
babies because my grandson
490
00:24:56,128 --> 00:24:59,566
had an experience with him.
491
00:24:59,666 --> 00:25:01,768
He would wake up and see this
man standing over his bed,
492
00:25:01,868 --> 00:25:03,836
and of course, that would
scare the bejeebers out of me,
493
00:25:03,936 --> 00:25:04,937
RAYMOND (SCARED): Mom!
Mom!
494
00:25:05,037 --> 00:25:05,672
JUNE (VOICEOVER): And
I'm sure it did him.
495
00:25:05,772 --> 00:25:06,606
RAYMOND (SCARED): Mom!
496
00:25:06,706 --> 00:25:07,540
Mom!
497
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:08,474
Mom!
498
00:25:08,575 --> 00:25:09,441
Mom!
499
00:25:09,542 --> 00:25:10,577
Mom!
500
00:25:10,677 --> 00:25:11,978
JUNE (VOICEOVER): And it
happened several times
501
00:25:12,078 --> 00:25:13,646
until Robin went
into the room one
502
00:25:13,746 --> 00:25:16,983
night before Raymond
went to sleep
503
00:25:17,083 --> 00:25:19,185
and she spoke to the ghost.
504
00:25:19,285 --> 00:25:22,388
And she said please do not
come back in this room anymore,
505
00:25:22,488 --> 00:25:24,557
and please leave Raymond alone.
506
00:25:24,657 --> 00:25:28,027
And after that he didn't come
back, or at least if he did,
507
00:25:28,127 --> 00:25:30,462
Raymond didn't wake up.
508
00:25:30,563 --> 00:25:31,864
[crackling fire]
509
00:25:31,964 --> 00:25:33,633
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): When
June Farris learned the details
510
00:25:33,733 --> 00:25:36,102
of John Harden's
life and death, she
511
00:25:36,202 --> 00:25:38,905
recognized a startling
connection with a dream which
512
00:25:39,005 --> 00:25:39,972
had plagued her for years.
513
00:25:42,875 --> 00:25:47,079
JUNE (VOICEOVER): When I first
learned that John Harden came
514
00:25:47,179 --> 00:25:48,915
down the back stairs
into the kitchen,
515
00:25:49,015 --> 00:25:52,752
and out the back door, which
was the same path that I took
516
00:25:52,852 --> 00:25:55,688
in my dreams, I felt
like there was something
517
00:25:55,788 --> 00:25:57,624
there that I should know.
518
00:25:57,724 --> 00:26:00,993
Maybe if the dream had continued
I would have learned something,
519
00:26:01,093 --> 00:26:03,830
that there was a
link, and in some way
520
00:26:03,930 --> 00:26:06,766
he's trying to tell us
what happened to him,
521
00:26:06,866 --> 00:26:09,501
and even help us
find the killer.
522
00:26:09,602 --> 00:26:15,141
I think that he haunts to
try to make a point to people.
523
00:26:15,241 --> 00:26:18,377
That hey, I'm here,
and I can't go anywhere
524
00:26:18,477 --> 00:26:21,614
until this is taken care of.
525
00:26:21,714 --> 00:26:24,817
[crickets chirping]
526
00:26:24,917 --> 00:26:26,585
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
In 1990, the Farris's
527
00:26:26,686 --> 00:26:29,722
moved out of the old mansion.
528
00:26:29,822 --> 00:26:31,958
The new owners
also tell haunting
529
00:26:32,058 --> 00:26:34,126
tales of a restless
spirit roaming
530
00:26:34,226 --> 00:26:35,594
the hallways each night.
531
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,569
Curiously, when we filmed
at the old Victorian house
532
00:26:43,670 --> 00:26:45,938
in Claremont, our production
crew encountered a number
533
00:26:46,038 --> 00:26:48,240
of unusual difficulties.
534
00:26:48,340 --> 00:26:51,010
Lights flickered on and
off for no apparent reason.
535
00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:54,647
The equipment failed,
doors opened on their own,
536
00:26:54,747 --> 00:26:57,016
and a window in the
attic shattered.
537
00:26:57,116 --> 00:26:59,986
The cause, unknown.
538
00:27:00,086 --> 00:27:02,088
Perhaps it was just
coincidence, or perhaps it
539
00:27:02,188 --> 00:27:04,490
was the spirit of John
Harden, unable to rest
540
00:27:04,590 --> 00:27:06,993
until justice is served.
541
00:27:07,093 --> 00:27:08,627
And the final
footnote to this story
542
00:27:08,728 --> 00:27:10,462
is apt to give anyone pause.
543
00:27:10,562 --> 00:27:13,465
The investigation into
the murder of John Harden
544
00:27:13,565 --> 00:27:14,767
has now been reopened.
545
00:27:18,671 --> 00:27:20,239
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Next, an anonymous phone
546
00:27:20,339 --> 00:27:26,779
call rekindles a case of a
woman who disappeared in 1976.
547
00:27:26,879 --> 00:27:29,181
[theme music]
548
00:27:36,555 --> 00:27:38,024
I got to get going, darling.
549
00:27:38,124 --> 00:27:39,458
All right, mom.
550
00:27:39,558 --> 00:27:42,829
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): On
March 25th, 1976, Mary Ann
551
00:27:42,929 --> 00:27:45,564
Perez of Chalmette,
Louisiana said goodbye
552
00:27:45,664 --> 00:27:47,066
to her teenage daughter, Donna.
553
00:27:47,166 --> 00:27:48,467
Yeah.
554
00:27:48,567 --> 00:27:50,302
And would you put everything
in the fridge when you're done?
555
00:27:50,402 --> 00:27:51,637
Sure.
556
00:27:51,738 --> 00:27:53,139
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Donna had agreed to babysit her
557
00:27:53,239 --> 00:27:55,607
younger brothers and sisters
so Maryanne could go out
558
00:27:55,708 --> 00:27:57,509
with one of her girlfriends.
559
00:27:57,609 --> 00:27:59,411
I love you, I'm a come
and check up on y'all.
560
00:27:59,511 --> 00:28:00,446
- OK
- Lock the doors.
561
00:28:00,546 --> 00:28:01,848
I will.
562
00:28:01,948 --> 00:28:03,215
SHANNON (VOICEOVER): She told
Donna that she would be calling
563
00:28:03,315 --> 00:28:07,286
to check on us about
10:00, 11:00 o'clock
564
00:28:07,386 --> 00:28:11,924
and Donna said she got a
phone call from mama first.
565
00:28:12,024 --> 00:28:13,993
Mama said that she was OK.
566
00:28:14,093 --> 00:28:16,128
She would be home shortly.
567
00:28:16,228 --> 00:28:18,397
And then about 1:30
in the morning,
568
00:28:18,497 --> 00:28:21,768
Donna said she got a
phone call from a woman
569
00:28:21,868 --> 00:28:22,835
by the name of Dorothy.
570
00:28:22,935 --> 00:28:24,403
[phone ringing]
571
00:28:24,503 --> 00:28:25,738
Hello?
572
00:28:25,838 --> 00:28:27,774
DOROTHY (ON PHONE): Hi, my
name's Dorothy and I'm a friend
573
00:28:27,874 --> 00:28:28,808
of your mama's.
574
00:28:28,908 --> 00:28:30,142
I'm calling to let
you know that she's
575
00:28:30,242 --> 00:28:31,610
having car trouble
so she'll be a little
576
00:28:31,710 --> 00:28:33,612
late getting home tonight.
- Is she OK?
577
00:28:33,712 --> 00:28:34,781
DOROTHY (ON PHONE):
She'll be fine.
578
00:28:34,881 --> 00:28:35,782
She'll be home soon, bye.
579
00:28:35,882 --> 00:28:36,682
[phone clicks]
580
00:28:36,783 --> 00:28:39,551
Hello?
581
00:28:39,651 --> 00:28:41,287
Hello?
582
00:28:41,387 --> 00:28:43,155
[phone clicks into place]
583
00:28:45,557 --> 00:28:48,427
When I heard about the call
and heard the name Dorothy,
584
00:28:48,527 --> 00:28:51,230
I couldn't imagine who in the
world that could have been.
585
00:28:51,330 --> 00:28:54,366
I knew there was
something wrong somewhere,
586
00:28:54,466 --> 00:29:00,672
the car being practically new,
and no reason for car trouble.
587
00:29:00,773 --> 00:29:02,208
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Mary Ann Perez never
588
00:29:02,308 --> 00:29:04,777
called and never came home.
589
00:29:04,877 --> 00:29:06,445
Her family soon
discovered that she
590
00:29:06,545 --> 00:29:08,280
had gone to meet her
friend at a country
591
00:29:08,380 --> 00:29:10,682
Western club on the
outskirts of New Orleans.
592
00:29:10,783 --> 00:29:12,384
Uh, cold beer.
593
00:29:12,484 --> 00:29:13,786
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The next morning,
594
00:29:13,886 --> 00:29:17,556
Mary Ann's car was found
parked in front of the club.
595
00:29:17,656 --> 00:29:20,259
When the New Orleans Police
inspected the vehicle,
596
00:29:20,359 --> 00:29:22,694
they saw no evidence
of car trouble.
597
00:29:22,795 --> 00:29:25,397
The automobile was in
perfect running condition.
598
00:29:25,497 --> 00:29:27,800
[POLICE CHATTER OVER WALKIE
TALKIE]
599
00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:29,368
There's nothing
in the back seat.
600
00:29:29,468 --> 00:29:30,602
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Three days
601
00:29:30,702 --> 00:29:33,105
later, Mary Ann's purse,
weighted down with a brick,
602
00:29:33,205 --> 00:29:36,475
was found in Lake
Pontchartrain 10 miles away.
603
00:29:36,575 --> 00:29:38,344
There was no trace
of Mary Anne Perez.
604
00:29:41,881 --> 00:29:43,115
Nine years passed.
605
00:29:43,215 --> 00:29:44,951
Mary Anne's family
waited, not knowing
606
00:29:45,051 --> 00:29:47,453
whether she was dead or alive.
607
00:29:47,553 --> 00:29:50,156
Then in 1985, the New
Orleans Police Department
608
00:29:50,256 --> 00:29:52,391
dispatched a detective
to Wichita, Kansas
609
00:29:52,491 --> 00:29:55,127
to question a man
named David Courtney.
610
00:29:55,227 --> 00:29:56,863
Courtney, along with
his wife, confessed
611
00:29:56,963 --> 00:29:59,298
to a multi-state killing spree.
612
00:29:59,398 --> 00:30:01,100
One of their victims
seemed to have a lot
613
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,736
in common with Mary Ann Perez.
614
00:30:04,837 --> 00:30:07,439
Um, OK, um, I was going
to this bar for a drink,
615
00:30:07,539 --> 00:30:10,042
and I saw this woman,
and um, she was heading
616
00:30:10,142 --> 00:30:12,811
for her car in the parking lot.
617
00:30:12,912 --> 00:30:14,113
She looked a little tipsy--
618
00:30:14,213 --> 00:30:16,748
When I went up to Kansas
to interview David Courtney,
619
00:30:16,849 --> 00:30:19,485
he told me about the female
he abducted in New Orleans.
620
00:30:19,585 --> 00:30:21,553
He stated that he was
driving down the highway
621
00:30:21,653 --> 00:30:24,590
and pulled into a parking lot
of the Country Western bar.
622
00:30:24,690 --> 00:30:26,058
[car running]
623
00:30:30,329 --> 00:30:31,497
- Whoa.
- Oh.
624
00:30:31,597 --> 00:30:32,698
Hey, you OK?
625
00:30:32,798 --> 00:30:33,866
Yeah, I'm OK.
626
00:30:33,966 --> 00:30:35,834
Thank you.
627
00:30:35,935 --> 00:30:39,305
Um, you're not driving
that car, are you?
628
00:30:39,405 --> 00:30:40,206
I gotta.
629
00:30:40,306 --> 00:30:41,941
I got to get home to my kids.
630
00:30:42,041 --> 00:30:44,343
Well, look, why don't you let
my wife and I take you home?
631
00:30:44,443 --> 00:30:46,445
She's right up the road here and
I'm picking her up from work.
632
00:30:46,545 --> 00:30:47,346
I can't.
633
00:30:47,446 --> 00:30:48,414
I can't ask you to do that.
634
00:30:48,514 --> 00:30:50,216
I live all the way in Chalmette.
635
00:30:50,316 --> 00:30:51,283
Chalmette's no problem for us.
636
00:30:51,383 --> 00:30:52,184
We live in Chalmette.
637
00:30:52,284 --> 00:30:53,119
It's on the way there.
638
00:30:53,219 --> 00:30:54,453
You don't mind?
639
00:30:54,553 --> 00:30:55,821
No problem at all, you know?
640
00:30:55,922 --> 00:30:57,456
I'd feel guilty if I left you
here in the shape you're in.
641
00:30:57,556 --> 00:30:58,424
Come on in.
642
00:30:58,524 --> 00:31:00,859
I probably should.
643
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:01,860
[winces]
644
00:31:01,961 --> 00:31:03,462
So what's your name?
645
00:31:03,562 --> 00:31:04,897
Mary Ann.
646
00:31:04,997 --> 00:31:06,966
I'm David.
647
00:31:07,066 --> 00:31:08,500
Did you pick your wife up?
648
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:13,339
Yeah and then we took her
straight to our trailer.
649
00:31:13,439 --> 00:31:15,541
After you got to the
trailer, did y'all have sexual
650
00:31:15,641 --> 00:31:16,808
advances towards this woman?
651
00:31:16,909 --> 00:31:18,510
BOB LAMBERT: He stated that
this female fell asleep
652
00:31:18,610 --> 00:31:22,148
on a chair in the
trailer and there
653
00:31:22,248 --> 00:31:26,485
was some sexual advancements
by David Courtney's wife, which
654
00:31:26,585 --> 00:31:28,387
woke this female
up, and she became
655
00:31:28,487 --> 00:31:31,390
disturbed, and irate, and
upset about what was going on.
656
00:31:31,490 --> 00:31:33,725
And they agreed to give her
a ride home at that time.
657
00:31:33,825 --> 00:31:35,561
[car wooshing past]
658
00:31:37,829 --> 00:31:39,065
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
David Courtney
659
00:31:39,165 --> 00:31:42,034
stated that his wife drove
and he sat in the back seat
660
00:31:42,134 --> 00:31:43,402
with her their intended victim.
661
00:31:43,502 --> 00:31:46,572
[inaudible] we're just taking
you back and it's all over.
662
00:31:46,672 --> 00:31:48,707
That's all.
663
00:31:48,807 --> 00:31:50,509
No problem at all.
664
00:31:50,609 --> 00:31:51,810
This is your road, right?
665
00:31:51,910 --> 00:31:54,280
I mean, you can see it.
666
00:31:54,380 --> 00:31:56,082
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Courtney said he had already
667
00:31:56,182 --> 00:31:58,117
killed once, and he
and his wife were
668
00:31:58,217 --> 00:32:00,386
afraid that this woman
would go to the police
669
00:32:00,486 --> 00:32:01,353
if they let her live.
670
00:32:01,453 --> 00:32:02,654
[inaudible]
recognize this place.
671
00:32:02,754 --> 00:32:03,956
Is this it?
- This is it.
672
00:32:04,056 --> 00:32:05,224
You know-- hey baby, you're
going down the right road?
673
00:32:05,324 --> 00:32:06,292
This is not the way home.
This is not the way home.
674
00:32:06,392 --> 00:32:07,193
It's not.
675
00:32:07,293 --> 00:32:08,227
[struggling]
676
00:32:20,739 --> 00:32:22,441
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
According to David Courtney,
677
00:32:22,541 --> 00:32:24,977
he and his wife dumped their
victim near the Louisiana,
678
00:32:25,077 --> 00:32:26,278
Mississippi State line.
679
00:32:26,378 --> 00:32:27,446
Come on!
680
00:32:27,546 --> 00:32:28,714
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
They made absolutely
681
00:32:28,814 --> 00:32:29,982
no attempt to hide the body.
682
00:32:30,082 --> 00:32:30,983
Come on, grab her legs.
683
00:32:31,083 --> 00:32:32,451
I got her.
684
00:32:32,551 --> 00:32:33,885
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Detective Lambert
685
00:32:33,986 --> 00:32:35,621
was becoming more
and more certain
686
00:32:35,721 --> 00:32:40,259
that the Courtney's victim had
indeed been Mary Ann Perez.
687
00:32:40,359 --> 00:32:42,194
DAVID: Come on, let's
get out of here.
688
00:32:42,294 --> 00:32:43,395
I'm going to show
you a photograph
689
00:32:43,495 --> 00:32:45,331
and I want you to
take a look at it
690
00:32:45,431 --> 00:32:48,800
and see whether or not you
can identify this person.
691
00:32:48,900 --> 00:32:49,901
DAVID: Um, could be.
692
00:32:50,002 --> 00:32:51,170
Yeah, it kind of looks like her.
693
00:32:51,270 --> 00:32:54,640
A little bit heavy, but I
can't be 100% sure of it.
694
00:32:54,740 --> 00:32:56,342
Yeah, I think so, maybe.
695
00:32:56,442 --> 00:32:58,144
BOB LAMBERT: I'm going to
show you a small photograph.
696
00:32:58,244 --> 00:32:59,645
I want you look at and
see if you recognize
697
00:32:59,745 --> 00:33:00,946
anything in that photograph.
698
00:33:01,047 --> 00:33:02,048
DAVID: Well yeah,
that's her car.
699
00:33:02,148 --> 00:33:03,549
It's green.
700
00:33:03,649 --> 00:33:06,352
Definitely, uh-huh.
701
00:33:06,452 --> 00:33:08,320
Yeah, that's her car.
702
00:33:12,924 --> 00:33:14,226
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Detective Lambert
703
00:33:14,326 --> 00:33:16,995
next questioned Courtney's
wife, specifically
704
00:33:17,096 --> 00:33:18,397
about Mary Ann's purse.
705
00:33:18,497 --> 00:33:19,598
[inaudible] police department.
706
00:33:19,698 --> 00:33:20,832
I spoke with your
attorney last night.
707
00:33:20,932 --> 00:33:22,368
It's my understanding
that you don't wish to--
708
00:33:22,468 --> 00:33:24,503
BOB LAMBERT: I asked her if
the female they abducted had
709
00:33:24,603 --> 00:33:28,140
a purse and she said
yes, that she threw
710
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,142
it over the side of
a bridge that they
711
00:33:30,242 --> 00:33:32,811
were crossing at the time.
712
00:33:32,911 --> 00:33:34,646
SHANNON (VOICEOVER): My
daddy came into the room,
713
00:33:34,746 --> 00:33:40,786
and he got us all together,
and he said to us-- he said,
714
00:33:40,886 --> 00:33:42,354
mama is dead.
715
00:33:42,454 --> 00:33:46,792
He said they found that people
that did it and she's dead.
716
00:33:46,892 --> 00:33:48,727
She's gone.
717
00:33:48,827 --> 00:33:55,167
And it tore us up because we
had a lot of hope until that.
718
00:33:58,036 --> 00:33:59,037
DAVID'S WIFE: Get
her out, quick.
719
00:33:59,138 --> 00:33:59,971
DAVID: Get her legs.
720
00:34:00,072 --> 00:34:00,539
DAVID'S WIFE: I
got it, I got it.
721
00:34:00,639 --> 00:34:01,873
Just move her.
722
00:34:01,973 --> 00:34:02,841
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Based on Courtney's statement,
723
00:34:02,941 --> 00:34:04,610
an extensive search
was conducted.
724
00:34:04,710 --> 00:34:06,712
A body was not recovered
even though all
725
00:34:06,812 --> 00:34:08,614
of Courtney's other
victims had been found
726
00:34:08,714 --> 00:34:11,883
where he said they would be.
727
00:34:11,983 --> 00:34:13,519
[car door slams]
728
00:34:13,619 --> 00:34:15,221
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The Courtney's were never
729
00:34:15,321 --> 00:34:17,022
charged with Mary Ann's murder.
730
00:34:17,123 --> 00:34:22,461
The slim hope that she was
alive continued to flicker.
731
00:34:22,561 --> 00:34:25,831
Then in 1990, the
case of Mary Ann Perez
732
00:34:25,931 --> 00:34:28,800
was resurrected once more.
733
00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:30,569
[phone ringing]
734
00:34:30,669 --> 00:34:33,305
15 Years after Mary
Ann's disappearance,
735
00:34:33,405 --> 00:34:35,073
the wife of her
oldest son, Elward,
736
00:34:35,174 --> 00:34:37,409
received a phone call
from a woman who claimed
737
00:34:37,509 --> 00:34:38,910
to be Mary Ann's best friend.
738
00:34:39,010 --> 00:34:40,646
I'm not going to let you
speak with him unless you
739
00:34:40,746 --> 00:34:41,847
tell me what it's about.
740
00:34:41,947 --> 00:34:43,182
SHAWN (VOICEOVER): She
asked to speak with Elward
741
00:34:43,282 --> 00:34:45,617
and he wasn't home, and I
didn't want to tell the stranger
742
00:34:45,717 --> 00:34:47,653
that my husband wasn't home.
743
00:34:47,753 --> 00:34:49,087
She asked to speak
with Elward again,
744
00:34:49,188 --> 00:34:51,089
and I said well, if you're not
going to tell me who you are,
745
00:34:51,190 --> 00:34:52,791
I'm not going to let
you speak with him.
746
00:34:52,891 --> 00:34:55,427
And she said, well,
it's about Mary Ann.
747
00:34:55,527 --> 00:34:57,062
And I said, what
about Miss Mary Ann?
748
00:34:57,163 --> 00:34:59,898
And she said, well, Miss
Mary Ann's still alive.
749
00:34:59,998 --> 00:35:01,467
WOMAN (ON PHONE): I'm
calling for Mary Ann
750
00:35:01,567 --> 00:35:03,135
because they won't let her call.
751
00:35:03,235 --> 00:35:07,573
Mary Ann can't remember-- look,
do you have Donna's number?
752
00:35:07,673 --> 00:35:09,040
No, I don't know Donna's
number, but I can--
753
00:35:09,141 --> 00:35:10,709
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The caller was emphatic.
754
00:35:10,809 --> 00:35:12,878
She would not be able
to telephone again.
755
00:35:12,978 --> 00:35:15,247
Like Mary Ann, she
was not allowed.
756
00:35:15,347 --> 00:35:17,916
WOMAN (ON PHONE): I'm telling
you, Mary Ann is still alive.
757
00:35:18,016 --> 00:35:20,219
I don't understand why you
don't want to help her.
758
00:35:20,319 --> 00:35:21,820
[phone hangs up]
759
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:27,326
That caused me to think more
positive that she was alive.
760
00:35:27,426 --> 00:35:29,861
And of course, there were
statements made that it's
761
00:35:29,961 --> 00:35:31,397
possibly a prank call.
762
00:35:31,497 --> 00:35:34,766
I don't know, but I do
know that if she is alive,
763
00:35:34,866 --> 00:35:36,134
I'd like to see her.
764
00:35:36,235 --> 00:35:37,503
I'd like to find her.
765
00:35:37,603 --> 00:35:40,506
And I feel that I'm speaking
for my family, and her family,
766
00:35:40,606 --> 00:35:42,608
and her children, her husband.
767
00:35:42,708 --> 00:35:44,009
We'd all like to have
her to come home.
768
00:35:47,546 --> 00:35:48,814
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The authorities
769
00:35:48,914 --> 00:35:50,882
believe it is almost
impossible that Mary
770
00:35:50,982 --> 00:35:53,785
Ann Perez might still be alive.
771
00:35:53,885 --> 00:35:56,455
However, Mary Ann's family
clings to the fragile belief
772
00:35:56,555 --> 00:35:59,625
that David Courtney, who admits
he was drunk at the time,
773
00:35:59,725 --> 00:36:02,027
did not succeed in his
attempt to strangle her.
774
00:36:02,127 --> 00:36:07,266
DAVID: It's OK,
[inaudible] it's OK!
775
00:36:07,366 --> 00:36:10,101
SHANNON (VOICEOVER): He
murdered several other people
776
00:36:10,202 --> 00:36:13,539
and their bodies were found.
777
00:36:13,639 --> 00:36:17,509
So that gives us some
hope that maybe he
778
00:36:17,609 --> 00:36:21,179
might have strangled her
unconscious, thinking that she
779
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,915
was dead, and threw her out.
780
00:36:24,015 --> 00:36:26,985
Maybe she had amnesia
or something like it.
781
00:36:27,085 --> 00:36:30,756
Or maybe some of the
brain cells were destroyed
782
00:36:30,856 --> 00:36:33,725
and she can't remember who
she is, or what she was,
783
00:36:33,825 --> 00:36:36,728
and coming to some time
after the Courtneys
784
00:36:36,828 --> 00:36:40,198
left, and just wandered out.
785
00:36:40,299 --> 00:36:43,669
SHANNON (VOICEOVER): Maybe she
got up several hours later.
786
00:36:43,769 --> 00:36:47,873
Maybe there's a possibility,
a slight possibility, that she
787
00:36:47,973 --> 00:36:49,608
is somewhere out there.
788
00:36:49,708 --> 00:36:51,009
[footsteps]
789
00:36:54,813 --> 00:36:56,582
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Did
Maryann Perez miraculously
790
00:36:56,682 --> 00:36:59,451
survive, the victim of amnesia?
791
00:36:59,551 --> 00:37:02,120
Or did David Courtney kill her?
792
00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:03,822
Courtney is currently
serving a life
793
00:37:03,922 --> 00:37:05,491
sentence for the
confessed murder
794
00:37:05,591 --> 00:37:06,458
of one of his other victims.
795
00:37:09,761 --> 00:37:11,630
One day, I think
that he did do
796
00:37:11,730 --> 00:37:14,800
it, another day I think I don't
know what happened to her.
797
00:37:14,900 --> 00:37:18,437
The fact is, she's gone and
has been gone for 15 years.
798
00:37:18,537 --> 00:37:21,907
Whether she's dead or
alive, I don't know.
799
00:37:22,007 --> 00:37:27,045
We love her, we miss
her, and we want her back.
800
00:37:27,145 --> 00:37:29,848
That's all we want.
801
00:37:29,948 --> 00:37:34,520
And if she's gone, we
still want a grave site
802
00:37:34,620 --> 00:37:38,223
to go put flowers on.
803
00:37:38,324 --> 00:37:41,059
For 15 long years,
Mary Ann Perez's family
804
00:37:41,159 --> 00:37:43,028
has watched and waited.
805
00:37:43,128 --> 00:37:45,230
They are anxious for
any news of Mary Ann,
806
00:37:45,331 --> 00:37:47,366
but they especially hope
the woman who telephoned
807
00:37:47,466 --> 00:37:50,201
Shawn Perez will call again.
808
00:37:50,302 --> 00:37:52,738
Mary Ann's family members
want the caller to know how
809
00:37:52,838 --> 00:37:55,006
eager they are to cooperate.
810
00:37:55,106 --> 00:37:57,843
Each of them holds onto
the hope, however illusory,
811
00:37:57,943 --> 00:38:00,145
that one day Mary
Ann will come home.
812
00:38:02,981 --> 00:38:04,215
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Mary Ann Perez
813
00:38:04,316 --> 00:38:06,752
has reddish brown
hair and blue eyes.
814
00:38:06,852 --> 00:38:08,954
She is five feet,
four inches tall,
815
00:38:09,054 --> 00:38:10,422
and at the time of
her disappearance,
816
00:38:10,522 --> 00:38:12,958
weighed 108 pounds.
817
00:38:13,058 --> 00:38:14,826
This is a computer
aged photograph
818
00:38:14,926 --> 00:38:17,763
to show how Mary Ann might
look today at the age of 48.
819
00:38:28,306 --> 00:38:31,142
When we return,
authorities need your help
820
00:38:31,242 --> 00:38:36,782
to track down a clever con
man who operates as a doctor.
821
00:38:36,882 --> 00:38:40,218
[theme music]
822
00:38:46,191 --> 00:38:51,262
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Cincinnati, Ohio November 1986.
823
00:38:51,363 --> 00:38:54,265
A smooth talking con artist
lays the intricate groundwork
824
00:38:54,366 --> 00:38:57,135
for his latest scam.
825
00:38:57,235 --> 00:38:58,737
- Mike Wills?
- Yes.
826
00:38:58,837 --> 00:38:59,905
Dr. John Anderson.
How are you doing?
827
00:39:00,005 --> 00:39:00,706
Well, nice to
meet you, Doctor.
828
00:39:00,806 --> 00:39:01,840
We spoke on the phone.
829
00:39:01,940 --> 00:39:03,108
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The target is Mike
830
00:39:03,208 --> 00:39:05,276
Wills, a veteran coin dealer.
831
00:39:05,377 --> 00:39:07,679
Like most of us,
Mike thinks he would
832
00:39:07,779 --> 00:39:09,114
never fall prey to a con man.
833
00:39:09,214 --> 00:39:10,749
[inaudible] we've been
talking about, the maple
834
00:39:10,849 --> 00:39:11,983
leaf and the [inaudible].
835
00:39:12,083 --> 00:39:15,821
And he came across as a
very polite, articulate man,
836
00:39:15,921 --> 00:39:17,789
and I had no reason at
that time to doubt that he
837
00:39:17,889 --> 00:39:19,825
was anything other than
what he told me he was,
838
00:39:19,925 --> 00:39:21,660
indeed a doctor.
839
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,429
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The corpulent con man
840
00:39:23,529 --> 00:39:25,431
who called himself
Doctor John Anderson,
841
00:39:25,531 --> 00:39:28,400
was interested in
buying gold coins.
842
00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:30,836
He suggested that Wills visit
him at Children's Hospital
843
00:39:30,936 --> 00:39:33,572
and speak to his physician's
investment group.
844
00:39:33,672 --> 00:39:35,974
I got to be rushing
on over to the hospital.
845
00:39:36,074 --> 00:39:37,709
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The trap was now in place.
846
00:39:37,809 --> 00:39:39,044
[inaudible] and
I'll be back with you.
847
00:39:39,144 --> 00:39:40,011
Nice meeting you.
848
00:39:40,111 --> 00:39:41,980
[phone ringing]
849
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,048
Coins plus.
850
00:39:43,148 --> 00:39:44,382
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Two days
851
00:39:44,483 --> 00:39:49,387
later, Dr. Anderson ordered
$30,000 worth of gold coins.
852
00:39:49,488 --> 00:39:51,823
Mike Wills agreed to bring
the coins to the hospital
853
00:39:51,923 --> 00:39:53,925
when he addressed
Anderson's investment group.
854
00:39:57,028 --> 00:39:59,264
At 8:00 AM on
November 26th, 1986,
855
00:39:59,364 --> 00:40:04,302
Mike Wills arrived at
Children's Hospital.
856
00:40:04,402 --> 00:40:06,271
Dr. Anderson had
arranged to meet
857
00:40:06,371 --> 00:40:09,307
with Mike privately before Mike
spoke to the physicians group.
858
00:40:09,407 --> 00:40:10,676
WOMAN (ON SPEAKER):
Dr. Kravitz, you have
859
00:40:10,776 --> 00:40:12,143
a visitor in the main lobby.
860
00:40:12,243 --> 00:40:13,712
MICHAEL (VOICEOVER): The
elevator door opens up
861
00:40:13,812 --> 00:40:16,314
and he's in the elevator.
862
00:40:16,414 --> 00:40:17,415
Hey, Mike, how are you doing?
863
00:40:17,516 --> 00:40:18,383
[inaudible] How are
you doing this morning?
864
00:40:18,484 --> 00:40:19,250
Pretty good.
How about yourself?
865
00:40:19,350 --> 00:40:20,218
All right, good.
866
00:40:20,318 --> 00:40:21,720
Go ahead and press G for me.
- OK.
867
00:40:21,820 --> 00:40:22,688
Thank you.
868
00:40:22,788 --> 00:40:23,855
Now, care for a
little transaction?
869
00:40:23,955 --> 00:40:24,956
We'll take care
of our business
870
00:40:25,056 --> 00:40:26,124
as soon as we get downstairs.
871
00:40:26,224 --> 00:40:27,092
That's fine.
872
00:40:27,192 --> 00:40:28,193
MICHAEL (VOICEOVER):
There were two
873
00:40:28,293 --> 00:40:29,528
other doctors on the elevator.
874
00:40:29,628 --> 00:40:31,563
He was not having conversation
with the gentleman--
875
00:40:31,663 --> 00:40:32,964
See you later.
876
00:40:33,064 --> 00:40:34,399
MICHAEL (VOICEOVER): --but as we
got off, he acknowledged them.
877
00:40:34,500 --> 00:40:35,801
I'll just head on
over here to radiology.
878
00:40:35,901 --> 00:40:37,035
MICHAEL (VOICEOVER):
There was nobody
879
00:40:37,135 --> 00:40:39,304
at all in the hall,
which didn't strike
880
00:40:39,404 --> 00:40:42,808
me as being odd because it
was so early in the morning.
881
00:40:42,908 --> 00:40:44,743
OK, let's see
what we have here.
882
00:40:44,843 --> 00:40:45,711
[door closes]
883
00:40:45,811 --> 00:40:46,945
Over here I have
two tubes of gold,
884
00:40:47,045 --> 00:40:48,847
each that have 25 pieces in it.
885
00:40:48,947 --> 00:40:51,349
OK.
886
00:40:51,449 --> 00:40:52,618
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Dr. Anderson
887
00:40:52,718 --> 00:40:55,587
told Mike Wills he had
access to his safe upstairs,
888
00:40:55,687 --> 00:40:57,523
where he wanted
to store the gold.
889
00:40:57,623 --> 00:40:58,624
He would return momentarily.
890
00:40:58,724 --> 00:41:00,792
[inaudible] business.
891
00:41:00,892 --> 00:41:04,630
You might want to have a seat
and I'll be back with a check.
892
00:41:04,730 --> 00:41:06,632
OK?
893
00:41:06,732 --> 00:41:08,634
[door opens and closes]
894
00:41:19,745 --> 00:41:21,547
MICHAEL (VOICEOVER): I sat
there thinking back on it.
895
00:41:21,647 --> 00:41:23,982
What seems to be an eternity
was most probably more
896
00:41:24,082 --> 00:41:27,553
like five to six minutes,
and my gold is gone,
897
00:41:27,653 --> 00:41:31,523
and Doctor Anderson is gone, and
I have nothing to show for it.
898
00:41:31,623 --> 00:41:32,991
That was about all I
could take, I guess.
899
00:41:33,091 --> 00:41:36,461
At that moment, I got up and I
walked out of this blind door,
900
00:41:36,562 --> 00:41:38,730
and now , everybody is there.
901
00:41:38,830 --> 00:41:40,999
I think there's five or six
parents in the waiting room.
902
00:41:41,099 --> 00:41:43,334
Now there's a nurse
at the nurses station.
903
00:41:43,434 --> 00:41:48,006
WOMAN (ON SPEAKER): Doctor Mark
Standler, please dial 1917.
904
00:41:48,106 --> 00:41:49,374
Can I help you?
905
00:41:49,474 --> 00:41:51,777
Yes, I'm Mike Wills from a
coin store here in Cincinnati.
906
00:41:51,877 --> 00:41:54,379
I need you to page a Dr.
John Anderson for me.
907
00:41:54,479 --> 00:41:56,414
I just gave him a
large amount of gold.
908
00:41:56,514 --> 00:41:58,917
There's no Dr. Anderson
at this hospital.
909
00:41:59,017 --> 00:42:01,553
There was a Dr. Anderson right
down in the room down the hall
910
00:42:01,653 --> 00:42:02,688
five minutes ago.
- Well, I'm sorry.
911
00:42:02,788 --> 00:42:04,222
I don't know of any Dr.
Anderson on staff here.
912
00:42:04,322 --> 00:42:05,657
You may want to try upstairs.
913
00:42:05,757 --> 00:42:06,958
- You can page for me from here?
- Sir.
914
00:42:07,058 --> 00:42:08,393
MICHAEL (VOICEOVER):
It made me feel
915
00:42:08,493 --> 00:42:11,062
extremely gullible
that I could be
916
00:42:11,162 --> 00:42:14,733
duped so easily out of $30,000.
917
00:42:14,833 --> 00:42:16,167
I trusted a name tag.
918
00:42:16,267 --> 00:42:18,236
I trusted what this man told me.
919
00:42:18,336 --> 00:42:21,272
When he mentioned doctor, maybe
checks that I could have made,
920
00:42:21,372 --> 00:42:24,576
I didn't make because this
made everything seem right.
921
00:42:24,676 --> 00:42:27,112
Here you go, 10
gold maple leaves.
922
00:42:27,212 --> 00:42:28,947
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Three years, later Dr. Alfred
923
00:42:29,047 --> 00:42:31,983
Evan's, notable for his girth,
showed up at a coin shop
924
00:42:32,083 --> 00:42:33,619
in Albany, New York.
- Sounds fair enough.
925
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:34,586
Will you take a check?
926
00:42:34,686 --> 00:42:35,654
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): The doctor
927
00:42:35,754 --> 00:42:36,655
made several small
purchases from a coin
928
00:42:36,755 --> 00:42:39,224
dealer, Wendell Williams.
929
00:42:39,324 --> 00:42:40,792
Then, a new twist.
930
00:42:40,892 --> 00:42:44,630
Williams received a $45,000
gold coin order from Doctor
931
00:42:44,730 --> 00:42:47,465
Evans via Federal Express.
932
00:42:47,565 --> 00:42:49,267
I decided that I
wouldn't buy any gold,
933
00:42:49,367 --> 00:42:52,704
but I would see what
he did when he came in.
934
00:42:52,804 --> 00:42:55,841
That Saturday, which
was on November the 4th,
935
00:42:55,941 --> 00:42:57,208
when I was waiting
on other customers,
936
00:42:57,308 --> 00:42:59,645
he came in, in his jovial
way, and said hello to me.
937
00:42:59,745 --> 00:43:02,848
The first words out of his
mouth was did you get my gold?
938
00:43:02,948 --> 00:43:04,215
I told him no.
939
00:43:04,315 --> 00:43:06,718
He seemed a little alarmed, but
turned around and said well,
940
00:43:06,818 --> 00:43:08,186
then what do you have for me?
941
00:43:08,286 --> 00:43:10,856
And he said, what about that
Rolex wristwatch that you had?
942
00:43:10,956 --> 00:43:13,058
Well, I got that
for somebody else,
943
00:43:13,158 --> 00:43:14,059
but I'll get you some gold.
944
00:43:14,159 --> 00:43:15,994
OK, here you go doc.
945
00:43:16,094 --> 00:43:18,129
80 ounces of gold maple leaves.
946
00:43:18,229 --> 00:43:19,164
How much is this?
947
00:43:19,264 --> 00:43:21,833
It'll be $385.75 each.
948
00:43:21,933 --> 00:43:23,702
All right, I'll make
you out a check for it.
949
00:43:23,802 --> 00:43:25,236
You know, I'm going
to have to hold the gold
950
00:43:25,336 --> 00:43:26,604
until that check clears.
951
00:43:26,705 --> 00:43:28,807
You know my checks are good.
952
00:43:28,907 --> 00:43:30,008
That might be, but--
953
00:43:30,108 --> 00:43:31,743
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
When plan A didn't work,
954
00:43:31,843 --> 00:43:33,779
the bogus M.D.
switched strategies.
955
00:43:33,879 --> 00:43:36,014
Look, I'll pay [inaudible]
just so doesn't happen again,
956
00:43:36,114 --> 00:43:38,316
I'm going to go ahead and
make out a blank check.
957
00:43:38,416 --> 00:43:42,387
You hold onto this, and
that way next time we
958
00:43:42,487 --> 00:43:43,689
won't have to go through this.
959
00:43:43,789 --> 00:43:44,589
Sounds good.
960
00:43:48,493 --> 00:43:50,195
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
After Evans wrote the check,
961
00:43:50,295 --> 00:43:52,230
he started to chat
with another customer
962
00:43:52,330 --> 00:43:54,065
and waited patiently
for a new opportunity.
963
00:43:54,165 --> 00:43:55,667
I've got some [inaudible]
in one of my offices
964
00:43:55,767 --> 00:43:56,835
that I'm looking to possible--
- Excuse me, fellas.
965
00:43:56,935 --> 00:43:58,036
I've got to take
care of a customer.
966
00:43:58,136 --> 00:43:59,170
Sure.
967
00:43:59,270 --> 00:44:00,505
Can I help you?
968
00:44:00,605 --> 00:44:02,240
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): With
Wendell Williams occupied,
969
00:44:02,340 --> 00:44:03,842
the coast was clear.
970
00:44:03,942 --> 00:44:06,444
Plan B went off without a hitch.
971
00:44:06,544 --> 00:44:09,781
All right, I'll tell you
what, if you do me a favor,
972
00:44:09,881 --> 00:44:12,417
uh, I've got to get running
off to the hospital.
973
00:44:12,517 --> 00:44:15,887
So I'm going to leave
these checks here,
974
00:44:15,987 --> 00:44:17,188
and if you can
just do me a favor
975
00:44:17,288 --> 00:44:19,124
and make sure that he gets them.
976
00:44:19,224 --> 00:44:20,525
Sure.
977
00:44:20,625 --> 00:44:22,127
Take care of this for me.
978
00:44:22,227 --> 00:44:23,561
OK.
979
00:44:23,661 --> 00:44:25,330
All right, thank
you very much.
980
00:44:25,430 --> 00:44:26,865
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
As one might expect,
981
00:44:26,965 --> 00:44:28,433
Dr. Evans skipped town.
982
00:44:28,533 --> 00:44:32,838
His check for more than $30,000
was, of course, no good.
983
00:44:35,473 --> 00:44:37,976
In trying to track the
activities of Doctor Evans,
984
00:44:38,076 --> 00:44:40,645
we've noticed that he'll be
in town for a couple of months
985
00:44:40,746 --> 00:44:42,948
to pull his scam, and
then he'll be disappeared
986
00:44:43,048 --> 00:44:44,082
for a couple of months.
987
00:44:44,182 --> 00:44:45,784
We can't seem to find
out what he's been doing
988
00:44:45,884 --> 00:44:47,886
during that period of time.
989
00:44:47,986 --> 00:44:49,454
There will be gaps
of anywhere from two
990
00:44:49,554 --> 00:44:51,389
to five months between cities.
991
00:44:51,489 --> 00:44:54,292
He could be doing anything from
having a legitimate business,
992
00:44:54,392 --> 00:44:57,963
pulling another scam, or just
plain vacationing somewhere.
993
00:44:58,063 --> 00:44:59,364
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Authorities
994
00:44:59,464 --> 00:45:03,068
have uncovered these photographs
of the elusive pseudo Doctor.
995
00:45:03,168 --> 00:45:07,105
They were taken in 1990 at
a bank in Massachusetts.
996
00:45:07,205 --> 00:45:10,375
The authorities do not know
the con man doctors real name,
997
00:45:10,475 --> 00:45:12,177
but in addition to
Anderson and Evans,
998
00:45:12,277 --> 00:45:13,979
he is also used
the aliases Doctor
999
00:45:14,079 --> 00:45:17,148
John Miller, Doctor Michael
Baker, and Doctor Brown.
1000
00:45:25,590 --> 00:45:27,959
[music playing]
1001
00:45:42,707 --> 00:45:44,609
[theme music]
1002
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,983
Join me next time
for another edition
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of "Unsolved Mysteries."
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