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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Butch
Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.
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These outlaw legends
were immortalized
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by the movie starring Paul
Newman and Robert Redford.
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According to history, Butch
and Sundance was gunned
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down by soldiers in Bolivia.
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But some experts now believe
one of the famous bandits
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escaped to the United
States and lived
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out his life as a prosperous
Seattle businessman.
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For nearly seven
years, Cindy James
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was a victim of more than
100 separate incidents
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of harassment, including five
violent physical attacks.
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Police suspected that Cindy
staged the incident herself.
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Then in 1989, Cindy was
found dead, her hands
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and feet bound behind her back.
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On a desolate highway in Texas,
two women and a young boy
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had a bizarre encounter
with an unidentified object.
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Today, all three are plagued
by mysterious illnesses
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whose symptoms began to
appear that very night.
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For every mystery,
there is someone
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somewhere who knows the truth.
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Perhaps that
someone is watching.
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Perhaps it's you.
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Join me.
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[theme music]
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REPORTER (ON TV): The
body of the blonde woman
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was clothed in brown slacks,
a pink blouse, and shoes.
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The 44-year-old--
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
June 8, 1989.
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Richmond, a suburb of
Vancouver, British Columbia.
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The evening news
carries a report
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that has become all too common,
the discovery of a dead body--
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in this case, lying in the
yard of an abandoned house.
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MAN: The hands were behind her
back, strapped to her feet.
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REPORTER: Strapped to her feet?
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Tied to her feet
with a rope or a cord.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The dead woman
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was 44-year-old pediatric
nurse Cindy James.
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She lived less than
two miles from the spot
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where her body was found.
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For seven years, Cindy had
been reporting that she was
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the victim of more than
100 separate incidents
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of harassment, five of them
violent physical attacks.
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The police first believed then
disbelieved Cindy's stories.
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However, Cindy's parents are
convinced that their daughter
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was murdered.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Cindy James graduated
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from nursing school in 1966.
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Within a few years, she
was named administrator
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of a preschool for
children with behavioral
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and emotional disorders.
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Cindy was married but never
had children of her own.
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In July of 1982, Cindy
and her husband separated.
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Four months later,
the phone calls began.
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[phone rings]
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Hello?
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Who is this?
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TILLIE HACK: She said
it was just a voice.
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Sometimes it would
change the sound,
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and sometimes it
was just whispering.
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Sometimes it was just
nothing, just silence.
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As far as we know, she did
not recognize the voice.
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Of course, I think we
should add a qualifier there
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that she was very,
very reluctant to talk
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about this right to the
end, and our feeling
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was that she was withholding
something extremely vital.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Cindy reported
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the threatening calls
to Vancouver police,
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who began an investigation.
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Over the next three
months, she said
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that the harassment escalated.
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At night, she heard prowlers.
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Her porch lights were smashed,
her phone lines severed.
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Bizarre cut-and-paste
notes began
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to appear on her doorstep.
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She told me many times that
he wanted to scare her to death.
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She said, he doesn't
want to kill me.
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He wants to scare me to death.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
On January 27, 1983,
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Agnes Woodcock dropped by
Cindy's house for a visit.
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Cindy?
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AGNES WOODCOCK
(VOICEOVER): I went out
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and knocked on the door.
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There was no answer.
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I assumed she was
having her bath.
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She did every night.
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And I thought I heard something,
and I wasn't sure what it was.
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AGNES: [gasp]
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Cindy!
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What happened?
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AGNES WOODCOCK
(VOICEOVER): I found
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her crunched down with a nylon
tied tightly around her neck.
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AGNES: Oh, are you all right?
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AGNES WOODCOCK:
Cindy said she'd gone
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out to the garage to get a box.
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And just as she
got to the garage,
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she turned, and someone grabbed
her from behind, she said.
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And all she saw
was white sneakers.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Cindy
was thoroughly frightened.
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She moved to a new house.
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Later, she painted
her car and eventually
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changed her last name.
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The police continued
their investigation
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and questioned
Cindy several times.
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OZZIE KABAN: She wouldn't
tell them the entire story.
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She would be evasive.
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She would withhold information,
and she simply would not act
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as a normal victim would act.
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And I can see where
a police officer
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would have a tremendous
amount of problem
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in believing her story.
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Do you live in the
city of Vancouver?
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Yes.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Cindy was asked
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to take a lie detector test.
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The results were inconclusive.
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Both times, the polygraph
indicated that she
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was withholding information.
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POLYGRAPH OPERATOR:
On January 27, 1983,
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were you physically
assaulted outside your home?
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Yes.
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TILLIE HACK: Cindy told me
that after she was attacked,
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the knife was held
at her throat,
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and she was told that if you
talk, your sister will be next
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and then your mother.
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So just keep quiet.
Don't tell anything.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
On January 30, 1984,
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Ozzie Kaban, a private
investigator hired by Cindy,
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heard strange sounds
coming over a two-way radio
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he had given her.
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He went straight
to Cindy's house.
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OZZIE KABAN (VOICEOVER):
I went around the house,
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and the house was locked.
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I was able to look into
the house through a window,
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and I found Cindy lying there.
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101 to base.
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Get me the police.
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Cindy?
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Cindy, can you hear me?
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OZZIE KABAN: I
took a look at her,
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and I thought she was dead.
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There was a note that was
pinned with a paring knife
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through her hand.
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I went to the
telephone, called 911.
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Within about two minutes,
the medical people arrived.
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And she revived
briefly, and then
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they took her to the hospital.
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When I interviewed Cindy,
she told me that she noticed
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a man coming through the gate.
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The next thing she
remembers is being
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hit on the side of the
head with a piece of wood
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or something of that nature.
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She then remembered being
held down on the floor,
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and she remembered a
needle going into her arm.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Neal
Hall of the "Vancouver Sun"
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has covered Cindy's
case for two years.
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$1 and 1/2 million,
it's been estimated,
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police spent investigating
Cindy James' complaints,
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more than 100 incidents.
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And they could never
find a suspect.
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They could never find a--
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they could never-- there was
no sighting of a suspect.
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There was never a
fingerprint from a suspect.
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There was no independent
corroboration.
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Cindy saw this person--
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or sometimes she said there was
two, sometimes three people--
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going on year after
year after year.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
After one attack,
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Royal Canadian Mounted
Police tape recorded
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their questioning of Cindy.
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This is an actual excerpt
from that interview.
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There were times I would
talk with her, and I would say,
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Cindy, please tell
me what's going on.
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And she'd say, I can't, Mother.
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I can't.
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I'd say, why not?
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Because, she says,
I'm afraid for you.
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[phone rings]
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Hello?
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The threatening phone
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calls continued but
were too short to trace.
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Why are you doing this to me?
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Police began to formulate
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a disturbing theory.
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Incredibly, they
believed Cindy might
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have been staging
the entire harassment
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campaign against herself.
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They had 24-hour surveillance
on her house for, like, days
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on end with up to 14 officers.
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But never, when surveillance
was on her house, never
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any event would happen.
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As soon as surveillance
was taken off,
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of course, then she'd get
another incident that happened.
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When the police were
watching the house,
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we would say to
them, well, you know,
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if it's somebody doing
that, sure as heck
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he knows you're there.
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And of course, nobody will
do anything while you're
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sitting there and watching.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
On December 11, 1985,
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Cindy was found dazed
and semi-conscious
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lying in this ditch six
miles from her home.
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She was wearing a man's
work boot and glove
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and suffering from hypothermia.
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Cuts and abrasions
covered her body.
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Once again, a black
nylon stocking had been
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tied tightly around her neck.
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Once again, Cindy said she had
no memory of what happened.
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The police became more and
more convinced that Cindy
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was somehow attacking herself.
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The police did not investigate
the possibility of homicide,
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of somebody murdering her, but
zeroed in on trying to prove
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that she committed suicide.
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And I'm very angry with the
ineptitude, the bungling
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by those who are responsible
to protect our citizens
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and to do something
about, first of all,
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preventing a death like
this, and secondly,
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when it does occur, not
investigating it properly.
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[knocking]
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Agnes, wake up!
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Several times,
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Cindy asked Agnes Woodcock
and her husband, Tom,
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to spend the night with her.
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On one occasion, Cindy woke
them well after midnight.
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AGNES WOODCOCK (VOICEOVER):
Cindy came running to the door
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and said, Tom, I heard
a noise downstairs.
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And Tom said, I heard it, too.
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It was like a loud thump.
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Something's burning.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Agnes and Tom
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went downstairs with Cindy.
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The basement was in flames.
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Oh, my god!
Agnes, call 911!
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AGNES WOODCOCK: Cindy asked me
to call the fire department.
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So I ran to the phone,
and the phone was dead.
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So Tom went outside
and called the neighbor
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and asked if he would
call the fire department.
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And when he went out, there
was a man standing on the curb.
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And Tom asked him, and he
ran away down the street.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): The police
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suspected once again that
Cindy had staged the incident.
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--with further questions.
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Thank you.
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NEAL HALL: There was
no dust or fingerprints
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disturbed on the outside
of the windowsill.
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But somebody set the fires
from inside the home,
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and we had to climb
through that window.
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Now, that should have
been one sign that people
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should have realized.
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Also, she said she was out
walking her dog late at night
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that night.
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Now, if somebody was
attacked, why would
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they go out alone walking
their dog at 3 o'clock
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in the morning?
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Does that make sense?
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Finally,
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Cindy's doctor committed her
to a local psychiatric ward.
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He fully believed Cindy's
accounts of harassment
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but feared she was
becoming suicidal.
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ALLAN CONNOLLY: I
think one of the things
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that she found
most difficult was
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that people didn't believe her.
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She was always doubted.
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She knew she was
doubted, and that
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was what slowly drove
her crazy, the fact
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that she wasn't believed.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): 10 weeks
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later, Cindy left the hospital.
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She finally admitted to
her family and friends
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that she had been
withholding information.
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OTTO HACK: She told me for the
first time she was convinced
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who the perpetrator was,
and in her own words,
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if the police can't solve
this, I'll solve it for them.
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And she said,
when it's all over,
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I'll explain everything to you.
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But I can't tell you now.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): On May
25, 1989, six years and seven
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months after the first
threatening phone call,
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Cindy James disappeared.
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That same day, her car was found
in a neighborhood parking lot.
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Inside were groceries
and a wrapped gift.
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There was blood on the
driver's side door,
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and items from Cindy's
wallet were under the car.
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Two weeks later,
Cindy's body was
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found at the abandoned house.
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Cindy James' death had all the
earmarks of a sadistic murder.
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Her hands and feet were bound
together behind her back.
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A black nylon stocking was
tied tightly around her neck.
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Yet an autopsy would reveal that
Cindy had died from an overdose
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of morphine and other drugs.
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Police believe Cindy had
committed an elaborate suicide.
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OZZIE KABAN: There is no
way that she could have
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been able, after ingesting
that amount of drugs,
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to tie herself up.
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There was absolutely
nothing at the crime scene
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to indicate that she had
used any form of syringe
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or she had used
any drinking device
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or anything of that nature.
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The morphine wouldn't
have taken effect for, say,
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15 minutes, half an hour.
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The knot specialist who came
in and recreated the same type
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of knots in the way she was tied
up, it took him three minutes.
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So basically, if she took
the drugs at the same time,
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she would have had
about 15 minutes
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in order to tie herself up.
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Cindy was the type of person
who was a very proud person.
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If she wanted to commit
suicide, she would take her dog,
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dress herself up
properly, lay on the bed,
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and that's how she
would commit suicide.
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Not the way she was found
in that horrible place.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
At the coroner's inquest,
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the theory was raised
that Cindy suffered
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from multiple
personality disorder
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and that one of
her personalities
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was trying to destroy the other.
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ALLAN CONNOLLY: There was no
indication in all of the time
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that I saw her--
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and I saw her not just
in conversational states.
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I saw her in deep
hypnotic states as well--
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there was never any
evidence that there
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were other personalities there.
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So the psychiatrists that
were speculating about that
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were looking for an
explanation for things
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that can't be explained.
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Then who can argue against
multiple personality disorder?
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There was never any evidence
whatsoever in our relations
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with our daughter that there
was anything but the personality
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that we knew, and we saw
her under many circumstances
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many different times.
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There's just no question that
she was not mentally ill.
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NEAL HALL: So I think
that one of the defense
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mechanisms that
people have is denial.
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And I think it must be very hard
for them to believe that, you
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know, they were taken into--
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drawn into this whole thing year
after year after year and that
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it was all delusional.
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And you can feel sympathy
for the family and friends
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and colleagues who
were all close to her
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and trying to help
her and protect her.
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And, well, they went
through hell themselves.
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TILLIE HACK: If we could only
find out what really happened,
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I think it would
be easier on us.
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Right now, we just wonder.
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What happened?
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What happened?
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I can see her in front of me.
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I hear her laughter,
the fun we had.
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I-- you know, I still
find it hard to believe
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she's not there.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Is it possible
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that Cindy James had descended
so far into mental illness
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that she could inflict
terrible pain on herself, up to
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and including the
point of death?
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Cindy's friends and family are
convinced it is not possible.
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They believe there is someone
in Vancouver, Canada, who
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is getting away with murder.
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December 29, 1980.
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State Road 1485 on the
outskirts of Houston, Texas.
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That sure was a
good dinner we had.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): At
around 9:00 PM, Betty Cash,
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Vickie Landrum, and Vickie's
7-year-old grandson,
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Colby, were returning
home after dinner.
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Mawmaw, what's that light?
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What is that light?
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I don't know.
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It's awful bright, though.
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Is that an airplane?
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BETTY CASH: We were just
driving along talking,
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and all of a sudden we
seen this bright light.
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We didn't know
what it was, but we
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knew that there was something
that was lighting up the sky.
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It seems to be moving closer.
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I think you're right, Vickie.
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It is.
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VICKIE LANDRUM: You could
see it through the trees.
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You know, you'd lose it,
and then you'd see it.
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You'd lose it and you'd see it.
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And we traveled about close to
a mile, I guess, when it was--
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started to get real close.
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Then I knew wasn't a plane.
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Mawmaw, what is that?
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I don't know.
I don't know, honey.
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It's so bright.
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I can hardly see to drive.
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BETTY CASH: We had
began to feel the heat.
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And all of a sudden, Vickie
screamed for me to stop.
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And when I stopped,
she went forward,
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and her handprint was embedded
into the dash of the car.
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And I thought, well, I've
got to see what this is.
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So I walked toward the
front of the automobile,
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and I stood there looking
up to try to figure
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out what this object was.
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It was a diamond-shaped
object, four points.
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But the one at the top was
rounded and so were the sides.
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Then at the bottom,
flames were shooting out.
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The heat was tremendous.
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It just felt like I was
burning from the inside out.
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Betty, let's get outta here!
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BETTY CASH (VOICEOVER):
I was horrified.
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I was actually afraid
really to move.
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When I reached for
the door handle,
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the door handle was
so hot I couldn't
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even begin to hold on to it.
403
00:20:43,710 --> 00:20:46,979
I was more than scared.
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00:20:47,079 --> 00:20:48,448
It's moving away.
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00:20:52,885 --> 00:20:55,388
The only thing I
was thinking was, are
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were gonna get
out of here alive?
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[helicopters whirring]
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Just moments
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later, a large
squadron of helicopters
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descended on the area.
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VICKIE LANDRUM: They were
the large helicopters that
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has the double rotors on them.
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I counted 22.
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And Colby said, there's another
one, and I said, that makes 23.
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And they were the
kind of helicopters
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that you just don't
see, because I didn't
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know what kind they were.
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And they, I knew, had
belonged to the Army.
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[helicopters whirring]
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Betty Cash and Vickie
Landrum had no idea
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the events of that
night would plague
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them the rest of their lives.
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Given the evidence, there seems
little doubt that something
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incredible happened to
Betty, Vickie, and Colby,
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something that no one
has been able to explain.
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For more than 10 years,
they've been embroiled
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00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,090
in both a legal battle with
the United States government
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and a desperate fight
against mysterious illnesses
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whose symptoms began to
appear just six hours
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00:22:09,596 --> 00:22:12,865
after the bizarre encounter.
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Mawmaw!
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00:22:13,933 --> 00:22:14,734
Mawmaw!
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00:22:14,834 --> 00:22:16,769
I need a drink of water!
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00:22:20,272 --> 00:22:23,109
Mawmaw!
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00:22:23,209 --> 00:22:24,577
Colby?
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00:22:24,677 --> 00:22:26,613
Mawmaw, I'm sick.
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00:22:26,713 --> 00:22:27,980
VICKIE LANDRUM
(VOICEOVER): At 1 o'clock,
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Colby woke me up crying, and
he was begging me for water.
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Honey, you're burning up.
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VICKIE LANDRUM (VOICEOVER):
He had a fever,
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and he had vomited
all over the bed.
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I need some more water.
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VICKIE LANDRUM (VOICEOVER):
And while I was seeing to him,
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I got sick.
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Finally, though, I got him back
to sleep, and I went to sleep.
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And the next morning, I didn't
dream that we had been hurt.
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When I got up, him and
me both was yet sick.
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[knocking]
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The
next morning, Vickie and Colby
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were still suffering from
nausea and what appeared
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to be severe cases of sunburn.
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Betty?
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00:23:11,323 --> 00:23:13,025
Betty, it's Vickie.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Concerned, Vickie
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went to Betty's house to
check on her well-being.
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00:23:20,467 --> 00:23:21,434
Betty?
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00:23:21,534 --> 00:23:22,702
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
But Vickie was
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shocked by Betty's condition.
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Her temperature was
dangerously high,
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00:23:26,606 --> 00:23:30,877
and large red welts had
appeared on her face and hands.
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Water.
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Oh, what do you want?
463
00:23:33,846 --> 00:23:35,214
You want some water?
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I was so sick.
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All I wanted was water.
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My head was killing me.
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00:23:42,755 --> 00:23:46,626
I could not get rid
of the headache.
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00:23:46,726 --> 00:23:49,395
I had an upset stomach.
469
00:23:49,496 --> 00:23:54,333
Just-- I was just sick,
I mean completely.
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Hi, Betty.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Over the next four days,
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Betty's condition
grew more serious.
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How long has
she been this way?
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Vickie finally convinced
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her to see a doctor in Houston.
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DOCTOR: Has she been burned?
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
He immediately admitted
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Betty to Parkway Hospital.
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Do you know if she's been
out in the sun much, maybe?
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No.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Records
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show that three weeks later,
she underwent treatment
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for acute radiation poisoning.
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What I'd like to do is
admit her to the hospital
485
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and run some more tests.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): During
a six-week hospitalization,
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Betty lost more than 50% of
her hair and patches of skin
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on her face.
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DOCTOR: And I'll have somebody
from admitting come down
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and check--
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DR. BRIAN MCLELLAND: There was
absolutely no doubt in my mind
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that Betty was exposed to
high doses of radiation.
493
00:24:37,810 --> 00:24:41,347
As to what the source
was, I can't exactly say.
494
00:24:41,447 --> 00:24:43,182
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Dr. Brian McClelland has been
495
00:24:43,282 --> 00:24:45,484
Betty's physician since 1985.
496
00:24:45,585 --> 00:24:46,753
I don't know.
497
00:24:46,853 --> 00:24:49,221
All I know is that she received
high doses of radiation.
498
00:24:52,024 --> 00:24:53,392
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
After her release,
499
00:24:53,492 --> 00:24:55,928
Betty continued to
suffer side effects--
500
00:24:56,028 --> 00:24:59,331
extreme swelling of her face
and arms, painful headaches, and
501
00:24:59,431 --> 00:25:02,168
a dramatic loss of appetite.
502
00:25:02,268 --> 00:25:04,436
Vickie and Colby had
similar symptoms.
503
00:25:04,537 --> 00:25:06,939
However, their conditions
were less severe than Betty's.
504
00:25:09,375 --> 00:25:10,643
JOHN SCHUESSLER:
Betty Cash called
505
00:25:10,743 --> 00:25:14,046
me approximately six weeks after
she got out of the hospital.
506
00:25:14,146 --> 00:25:15,748
Her case was very unusual.
507
00:25:15,848 --> 00:25:16,816
It was intriguing.
508
00:25:16,916 --> 00:25:19,185
It had situations
involved that I hadn't
509
00:25:19,285 --> 00:25:21,387
heard about in the
Texas area before,
510
00:25:21,487 --> 00:25:25,057
so I naturally became involved.
511
00:25:25,157 --> 00:25:26,425
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
John Schuessler
512
00:25:26,525 --> 00:25:29,629
is an executive for a major
aeronautics engineering firm
513
00:25:29,729 --> 00:25:34,500
and is a deputy director
of the Mutual UFO Network.
514
00:25:34,601 --> 00:25:36,468
JOHN SCHUESSLER (VOICEOVER):
We had done several interviews
515
00:25:36,569 --> 00:25:39,238
with Betty and Vickie, and then
we went out to the location
516
00:25:39,338 --> 00:25:40,740
where this happened.
517
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,943
They were very, very
clear on where it happened
518
00:25:44,043 --> 00:25:44,844
and how it happened.
519
00:25:44,944 --> 00:25:45,978
Yes, sir.
520
00:25:46,078 --> 00:25:47,914
It came right over those
trees right there, sir.
521
00:25:48,014 --> 00:25:50,449
They were able to tell us
exactly where along the road
522
00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:53,085
that they stopped, because
there were certain markers
523
00:25:53,185 --> 00:25:54,887
that identified the spot.
524
00:25:54,987 --> 00:25:56,956
They were able to point
out exactly what they saw,
525
00:25:57,056 --> 00:25:59,592
the object coming down out
of the sky over the road
526
00:25:59,692 --> 00:26:01,527
and hovering there.
527
00:26:01,628 --> 00:26:04,163
They were able to point
out a spot on the road that
528
00:26:04,263 --> 00:26:06,432
indicated that it
had been heated
529
00:26:06,532 --> 00:26:08,635
to an extreme level of heating.
530
00:26:08,735 --> 00:26:13,940
It was burned, and it was
very clear to the naked eye.
531
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,842
Several weeks after
we went to the spot
532
00:26:15,942 --> 00:26:18,645
and saw this burned
area, someone came along,
533
00:26:18,745 --> 00:26:21,480
dug up the road, and hauled
it away and replaced it
534
00:26:21,580 --> 00:26:24,016
with new asphalt.
Some of the witnesses
535
00:26:24,116 --> 00:26:26,118
that watched this happen
said that people brought
536
00:26:26,218 --> 00:26:28,655
in unmarked trucks,
dug up the road,
537
00:26:28,755 --> 00:26:31,523
put the material on the trucks,
covered it with a tarpaulin,
538
00:26:31,624 --> 00:26:33,392
and drove away.
539
00:26:33,492 --> 00:26:35,728
And what did it do when
it hovered over the trees?
540
00:26:35,828 --> 00:26:37,664
JOHN SCHUESSLER: In addition
to taking Betty and Vickie's
541
00:26:37,764 --> 00:26:40,700
testimony, we went to
every individual living
542
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,534
within five miles of this area.
543
00:26:42,635 --> 00:26:45,337
And at least 10 other
people had seen the object,
544
00:26:45,437 --> 00:26:48,240
and seven or eight other people
had seen the helicopters.
545
00:26:48,340 --> 00:26:50,743
And their descriptions were
all very similar to what
546
00:26:50,843 --> 00:26:51,978
Betty and Vickie described.
547
00:26:54,647 --> 00:26:56,515
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): One
eyewitness was Dayton, Texas,
548
00:26:56,615 --> 00:26:59,118
police officer LL Walker.
549
00:26:59,218 --> 00:27:00,953
Walker was in the
area on the night
550
00:27:01,053 --> 00:27:04,490
that Betty and Vickie
encountered the object.
551
00:27:04,590 --> 00:27:06,525
LL WALKER: My wife Marie
and I was returning back
552
00:27:06,625 --> 00:27:09,228
from her mother and
dad's, and as we
553
00:27:09,328 --> 00:27:14,166
was coming out of some tree
lines, I saw a helicopter.
554
00:27:14,266 --> 00:27:17,536
It was shining a
spotlight at the ground.
555
00:27:17,636 --> 00:27:22,274
And then I heard other noise
of other helicopters behind it.
556
00:27:22,374 --> 00:27:24,944
And about that
time, a helicopter
557
00:27:25,044 --> 00:27:27,246
started sideslipping
toward us, with the beam
558
00:27:27,346 --> 00:27:29,348
hitting me in the eyes.
559
00:27:29,448 --> 00:27:35,054
And I stopped the car, because
I didn't know what was going on.
560
00:27:35,154 --> 00:27:39,191
The helicopters were military,
and they was all flying
561
00:27:39,291 --> 00:27:41,493
fairly low to the ground.
562
00:27:41,593 --> 00:27:44,697
And all of them had
search beams on.
563
00:27:44,797 --> 00:27:46,465
I thought maybe there
was an airplane down,
564
00:27:46,565 --> 00:27:48,367
but they didn't hesitate.
565
00:27:48,467 --> 00:27:52,404
They just kept on in the same
direction they was going,
566
00:27:52,504 --> 00:27:55,241
which would probably intersect
the area where Vickie
567
00:27:55,341 --> 00:27:57,043
said that her encounter was.
568
00:27:57,143 --> 00:27:58,945
They was headed in
that general direction.
569
00:28:01,413 --> 00:28:03,215
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Convinced that the military was
570
00:28:03,315 --> 00:28:06,618
somehow involved, Betty and
Vickie wrote to Texas senators
571
00:28:06,719 --> 00:28:09,688
John Tower and Lloyd Bentsen.
572
00:28:09,789 --> 00:28:10,589
Sen.
573
00:28:10,689 --> 00:28:12,458
Lloyd Bentsen and Sen.
574
00:28:12,558 --> 00:28:17,764
Tower had sent us the reply back
that Bergstrom Air Force Base
575
00:28:17,864 --> 00:28:21,367
had been notified and that
they had been made well
576
00:28:21,467 --> 00:28:24,203
aware of what had
happened to us,
577
00:28:24,303 --> 00:28:27,473
that they would be more than
glad to help us in any way.
578
00:28:30,176 --> 00:28:32,544
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
On August 21, 1981,
579
00:28:32,644 --> 00:28:35,848
Betty, Vickie, and Colby
arrived at Bergstrom.
580
00:28:35,948 --> 00:28:37,850
Expecting to receive
medical help,
581
00:28:37,950 --> 00:28:41,020
they brought overnight bags.
582
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,454
Colby, honey, come on with me.
583
00:28:42,554 --> 00:28:44,156
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
As they entered the room,
584
00:28:44,256 --> 00:28:45,591
Vickie noticed a large map.
585
00:28:45,691 --> 00:28:46,658
Betty.
586
00:28:46,759 --> 00:28:47,894
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The exact spot
587
00:28:47,994 --> 00:28:51,497
where the encounter had
occurred was clearly marked.
588
00:28:51,597 --> 00:28:53,132
I understand you're here
about an incident that
589
00:28:53,232 --> 00:28:56,068
occurred on 29 December 1980.
- Yes.
590
00:28:56,168 --> 00:28:57,804
Can you tell us what happened?
591
00:28:57,904 --> 00:28:59,305
Well, sir, we were
coming home from dinner.
592
00:28:59,405 --> 00:29:03,409
And as we were going down this
road, we saw this large object.
593
00:29:03,509 --> 00:29:05,277
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
According to Betty and Vickie,
594
00:29:05,377 --> 00:29:08,080
they were questioned
for more than two hours.
595
00:29:08,180 --> 00:29:11,317
The interview was recorded
by a military stenographer.
596
00:29:11,417 --> 00:29:13,452
It was as big
as a water tower,
597
00:29:13,552 --> 00:29:15,454
and it was kind
of diamond shaped.
598
00:29:15,554 --> 00:29:16,688
What did you do
after you spotted--
599
00:29:16,789 --> 00:29:18,290
BETTY CASH: It was a
deposition they were taking
600
00:29:18,390 --> 00:29:22,428
from each one of us, just
general of everything that
601
00:29:22,528 --> 00:29:24,363
had happened to us.
602
00:29:24,463 --> 00:29:28,801
And we were still blistered
and had blisters on us.
603
00:29:28,901 --> 00:29:33,672
And at the time, I was
wearing a wig because my hair
604
00:29:33,772 --> 00:29:35,741
had already gone.
605
00:29:35,842 --> 00:29:39,912
They wanted me to take my wig
off so they could see my head.
606
00:29:40,012 --> 00:29:42,214
About how long a
period of time was this?
607
00:29:42,314 --> 00:29:43,850
10 or 12 minutes.
608
00:29:43,950 --> 00:29:45,117
Then what happened?
609
00:29:45,217 --> 00:29:46,218
Well, as I got
in the car, then
610
00:29:46,318 --> 00:29:48,387
the helicopters
started approaching.
611
00:29:48,487 --> 00:29:49,288
What helicopters?
612
00:29:49,388 --> 00:29:51,190
The military helicopters.
613
00:29:51,290 --> 00:29:52,158
You say military.
614
00:29:52,258 --> 00:29:53,125
Yes, sir.
615
00:29:53,225 --> 00:29:54,326
How do you know
they were military?
616
00:29:54,426 --> 00:29:55,862
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The two interviewers
617
00:29:55,962 --> 00:29:58,430
denied that any military
or government operation was
618
00:29:58,530 --> 00:30:01,400
conducted on December 29, 1980.
619
00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:03,169
Ladies, what would
you like for us to do?
620
00:30:03,269 --> 00:30:04,070
We want help.
621
00:30:04,170 --> 00:30:05,104
We're sick.
622
00:30:05,204 --> 00:30:06,438
What do you want
the Air Force to do?
623
00:30:06,538 --> 00:30:08,140
I feel you're
partly responsible,
624
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,109
and I would like some help.
625
00:30:10,209 --> 00:30:11,777
None of the information
that I have here
626
00:30:11,878 --> 00:30:14,413
indicates that the Air
Force nor the government
627
00:30:14,513 --> 00:30:17,984
is responsible for any of
the claims that you've made.
628
00:30:18,084 --> 00:30:18,951
However, if you'd like--
629
00:30:19,051 --> 00:30:20,086
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): The women
630
00:30:20,186 --> 00:30:21,287
were told that they were
entitled to file a claim
631
00:30:21,387 --> 00:30:24,356
and that the Air Force
would review the case.
632
00:30:24,456 --> 00:30:26,492
Get them to your lawyers,
and get them back to us.
633
00:30:26,592 --> 00:30:27,894
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Four weeks
634
00:30:27,994 --> 00:30:33,265
later, Betty and Vickie's claim
for medical damages was denied.
635
00:30:33,365 --> 00:30:35,801
Come on, Colby.
636
00:30:35,902 --> 00:30:37,236
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): In 1982,
637
00:30:37,336 --> 00:30:40,172
Betty and Vickie filed a lawsuit
against the United States
638
00:30:40,272 --> 00:30:41,673
government.
639
00:30:41,773 --> 00:30:44,276
The case was dismissed
by a federal judge
640
00:30:44,376 --> 00:30:47,113
for lack of evidence.
641
00:30:47,213 --> 00:30:49,882
I thought there was no justice
left in the United States
642
00:30:49,982 --> 00:30:51,250
at all.
643
00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:55,721
And to think that we
had a federal judge
644
00:30:55,821 --> 00:30:59,558
that would not even give
us a chance to speak up
645
00:30:59,658 --> 00:31:00,459
or to be heard.
646
00:31:05,597 --> 00:31:07,566
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): What
did Betty Cash, Vickie Landrum,
647
00:31:07,666 --> 00:31:10,669
and Colby Landrum see in
the Texas sky on that winter
648
00:31:10,769 --> 00:31:14,907
night over 10 years ago?
649
00:31:15,007 --> 00:31:16,642
JOHN SCHUESSLER: There are
two possible explanations
650
00:31:16,742 --> 00:31:18,310
in this case.
651
00:31:18,410 --> 00:31:20,679
One is it was an experiment
craft of some kind
652
00:31:20,779 --> 00:31:22,648
by probably our government.
653
00:31:22,748 --> 00:31:25,985
The other, it was an
unidentified flying object,
654
00:31:26,085 --> 00:31:28,254
possibly extraterrestrial.
655
00:31:28,354 --> 00:31:30,889
I don't believe in
the little green men.
656
00:31:30,990 --> 00:31:36,062
And it had to be an object--
657
00:31:36,162 --> 00:31:37,663
it could have been
a spacecraft--
658
00:31:37,763 --> 00:31:39,398
that the government
was carrying.
659
00:31:39,498 --> 00:31:41,367
But our government
was carrying it.
660
00:31:44,270 --> 00:31:46,272
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Today,
Betty Cash, Vickie Landrum,
661
00:31:46,372 --> 00:31:48,540
and Colby Landrum
continue to battle
662
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,509
illnesses which they
believe a result
663
00:31:50,609 --> 00:31:53,279
of massive radiation exposure.
664
00:31:53,379 --> 00:31:56,715
Betty has been diagnosed
with several types of cancer.
665
00:31:56,815 --> 00:32:00,052
She, Vickie, and Colby all have
far below normal white blood
666
00:32:00,152 --> 00:32:01,387
cell counts.
667
00:32:01,487 --> 00:32:03,889
Their immune systems now
have difficulty fighting
668
00:32:03,990 --> 00:32:07,926
off even minor infections.
669
00:32:08,027 --> 00:32:11,097
The child especially, he's
going to have to make decisions
670
00:32:11,197 --> 00:32:13,565
about having
children, about what
671
00:32:13,665 --> 00:32:15,434
he's going to do with his life.
672
00:32:15,534 --> 00:32:17,236
And how long is
he going to live?
673
00:32:17,336 --> 00:32:18,971
What's going to happen to him?
674
00:32:19,071 --> 00:32:21,007
For Betty, she's just
entering into the risk
675
00:32:21,107 --> 00:32:23,375
period for other cancers
or other problems.
676
00:32:23,475 --> 00:32:25,277
And Vickie is, too.
677
00:32:25,377 --> 00:32:27,813
Vickie's having visual
problems, and there
678
00:32:27,913 --> 00:32:29,915
are lots of suggestions
that that may be
679
00:32:30,016 --> 00:32:32,184
related to radiation as well.
680
00:32:32,284 --> 00:32:33,519
But it depends on
the kind of exposure,
681
00:32:33,619 --> 00:32:35,221
and someone needs to
tell us what the exposure
682
00:32:35,321 --> 00:32:38,057
was so we can figure it out.
683
00:32:38,157 --> 00:32:41,793
If it's a top secret object
that's protecting the United
684
00:32:41,893 --> 00:32:44,296
States, then I could say--
685
00:32:44,396 --> 00:32:46,598
I could forgive them for that.
686
00:32:46,698 --> 00:32:54,673
But at least they owe us to tell
us exactly why we were burned
687
00:32:54,773 --> 00:32:58,544
and what type of radiation
that we were exposed to
688
00:32:58,644 --> 00:32:59,511
and how much.
689
00:33:04,283 --> 00:33:06,685
The United States Air Force
declined our invitation to be
690
00:33:06,785 --> 00:33:08,687
interviewed for this story.
691
00:33:08,787 --> 00:33:11,157
Their official position is
that no military or government
692
00:33:11,257 --> 00:33:15,861
operation occurred near Dayton,
Texas, on December 29, 1980.
693
00:33:15,961 --> 00:33:18,730
Betty Cash and Vickie
Landrum disagree.
694
00:33:18,830 --> 00:33:21,167
They believe that the military
knows exactly what happened
695
00:33:21,267 --> 00:33:22,968
that night and hope
that someone will
696
00:33:23,069 --> 00:33:24,536
come forward with information.
697
00:33:37,149 --> 00:33:38,550
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
When we return,
698
00:33:38,650 --> 00:33:40,486
the legend of Wild
West outlaws Butch
699
00:33:40,586 --> 00:33:42,754
Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.
700
00:33:42,854 --> 00:33:45,691
Did they really die in a
shootout in South America?
701
00:33:56,635 --> 00:34:00,406
Meet Robert LeRoy Parker
and Harry Alonzo Longabaugh.
702
00:34:00,506 --> 00:34:04,410
In the late 1800s, these two men
became outlaw legends as Butch
703
00:34:04,510 --> 00:34:06,312
Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.
704
00:34:11,617 --> 00:34:13,485
Decades later, they
were immortalized
705
00:34:13,585 --> 00:34:15,387
in a movie about
their lives starring
706
00:34:15,487 --> 00:34:18,023
Paul Newman and Robert Redford.
707
00:34:18,124 --> 00:34:21,059
The 1969 fact-based
film chronicles
708
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,663
the adventurous final
days of the famed outlaws.
709
00:34:32,138 --> 00:34:34,673
The movie, like history,
has Butch and Sundance
710
00:34:34,773 --> 00:34:37,776
meeting their demise in a fiery
gun battle in South America.
711
00:34:41,780 --> 00:34:44,150
But some experts
believe that Hollywood
712
00:34:44,250 --> 00:34:46,118
and history may be wrong.
713
00:34:52,391 --> 00:34:54,960
Some say that Jesse James
sang at his own funeral
714
00:34:55,060 --> 00:34:58,397
and fled to South America,
that Billy the Kid was not
715
00:34:58,497 --> 00:35:00,132
gunned down by Pat
Garrett and lived
716
00:35:00,232 --> 00:35:03,068
to the ripe old age of 92.
717
00:35:03,169 --> 00:35:04,570
The folklore of
the American West
718
00:35:04,670 --> 00:35:06,605
is full of stories
of famous outlaws
719
00:35:06,705 --> 00:35:09,575
who somehow outlived
their own deaths.
720
00:35:09,675 --> 00:35:12,744
But in the case of Butch
Cassidy and the Sundance Kid,
721
00:35:12,844 --> 00:35:14,913
there is compelling
evidence that at least one
722
00:35:15,013 --> 00:35:18,116
of the infamous criminals
returned to the United States
723
00:35:18,217 --> 00:35:19,485
and died of natural causes.
724
00:35:21,052 --> 00:35:21,887
Let's do this run.
725
00:35:21,987 --> 00:35:22,988
We're gonna run
over to that feed.
726
00:35:23,088 --> 00:35:24,390
Yes, sir.
727
00:35:24,490 --> 00:35:27,092
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Spokane, Washington, 1910.
728
00:35:27,193 --> 00:35:29,728
Two years after Butch and
Sundance were reportedly
729
00:35:29,828 --> 00:35:32,964
gunned down, a mysterious
man named William Thaddeus
730
00:35:33,064 --> 00:35:36,067
Phillips arrived in Spokane.
731
00:35:36,168 --> 00:35:37,336
How's it going, Roy?
732
00:35:37,436 --> 00:35:38,704
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Phillips eventually opened
733
00:35:38,804 --> 00:35:40,372
a machine shop which
became a success,
734
00:35:40,472 --> 00:35:45,076
earning him the reputation
as a prominent businessman.
735
00:35:45,177 --> 00:35:50,015
But oddly, William Phillips
was a man without a past.
736
00:35:50,115 --> 00:35:52,884
JAMES DULLENTY: The
first definitive record
737
00:35:52,984 --> 00:35:55,821
of William Phillips
was his marriage
738
00:35:55,921 --> 00:35:58,924
certificate dated May 14, 1908.
739
00:35:59,024 --> 00:36:03,128
There is no other previous
record of William Phillips.
740
00:36:03,229 --> 00:36:07,065
In the 1920s, about
1922, the first reports
741
00:36:07,165 --> 00:36:09,067
began circulating in
the West that Butch
742
00:36:09,167 --> 00:36:11,570
Cassidy had returned.
743
00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:15,707
People began to say that Butch
Cassidy was William Phillips.
744
00:36:15,807 --> 00:36:17,142
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
There does indeed
745
00:36:17,243 --> 00:36:20,011
seem to be an eerie resemblance
between William Thaddeus
746
00:36:20,111 --> 00:36:22,481
Phillips and George
"Butch" Cassidy.
747
00:36:22,581 --> 00:36:24,916
But if Phillips was
Cassidy, then how did
748
00:36:25,016 --> 00:36:26,652
the outlaw escape from Bolivia?
749
00:36:31,022 --> 00:36:33,992
[speaking spanish]
750
00:36:34,092 --> 00:36:35,827
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
According to some historians,
751
00:36:35,927 --> 00:36:38,630
the story of Butch and
Sundance's demise in Bolivia
752
00:36:38,730 --> 00:36:42,301
has been attributed to
one man, Percy Seibert.
753
00:36:42,401 --> 00:36:46,572
[speaking spanish]
754
00:36:49,408 --> 00:36:50,542
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Seibert
755
00:36:50,642 --> 00:36:52,611
had worked with the outlaws
at a tin mine in Bolivia
756
00:36:52,711 --> 00:36:56,315
and had become
friends with them.
757
00:36:56,415 --> 00:36:58,284
He allegedly identified
them as the two
758
00:36:58,384 --> 00:37:00,051
men killed in the shootout.
759
00:37:00,151 --> 00:37:03,188
[speaking spanish]
760
00:37:06,057 --> 00:37:09,027
LARRY POINTER: I believe that
Percy told the story of Butch
761
00:37:09,127 --> 00:37:12,264
Cassidy and the Sundance
Kid's death in Bolivia
762
00:37:12,364 --> 00:37:16,268
to pay back what he felt was a
debt of loyalty and friendship,
763
00:37:16,368 --> 00:37:21,006
to allow these outlaws to
begin a life under amnesty
764
00:37:21,106 --> 00:37:25,577
without a past, to bury
the legend of Butch Cassidy
765
00:37:25,677 --> 00:37:26,778
and the Sundance Kid forever.
766
00:37:29,114 --> 00:37:30,416
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Larry Pointer
767
00:37:30,516 --> 00:37:33,452
is convinced that Butch Cassidy
assumed the identity of William
768
00:37:33,552 --> 00:37:36,154
Phillips and that, as
Phillips, he even returned
769
00:37:36,254 --> 00:37:39,224
to the mountains of
Wyoming, the same territory
770
00:37:39,325 --> 00:37:44,396
that Butch Cassidy and his
outlaw gang had once roamed.
771
00:37:44,496 --> 00:37:47,032
JAMES DULLENTY: We know the
man who went with Phillips
772
00:37:47,132 --> 00:37:49,134
to Wyoming in 1933.
773
00:37:49,234 --> 00:37:52,471
This man died recently, but
we have interviewed him.
774
00:37:52,571 --> 00:37:55,407
He was there all
summer with Phillips.
775
00:37:55,507 --> 00:37:58,877
And he met all the old
timers that Phillips met.
776
00:37:58,977 --> 00:38:02,080
And in almost every
case, these old timers
777
00:38:02,180 --> 00:38:04,049
accepted Phillips as Cassidy.
778
00:38:04,149 --> 00:38:08,787
Well, old timers' stories
are always the most interesting
779
00:38:08,887 --> 00:38:09,955
and the least reliable.
780
00:38:10,055 --> 00:38:11,289
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Author Dan
781
00:38:11,390 --> 00:38:14,159
Buck has researched the life
and death of Butch Cassidy.
782
00:38:14,259 --> 00:38:16,027
He is convinced that
William Phillips
783
00:38:16,127 --> 00:38:19,365
was merely an imposter.
784
00:38:19,465 --> 00:38:22,033
DAN BUCK: The William
Phillips story is
785
00:38:22,133 --> 00:38:23,969
chock full of old timer tales.
786
00:38:24,069 --> 00:38:26,237
People would claim they were
good friends with Cassidy
787
00:38:26,338 --> 00:38:28,139
and knew Phillips was Cassidy.
788
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,542
And usually it's when
asked by someone,
789
00:38:30,642 --> 00:38:32,277
when prompted by someone.
790
00:38:32,378 --> 00:38:34,946
Well, you were a good friend of
Butch Cassidy's, weren't you?
791
00:38:35,046 --> 00:38:36,515
And of course,
the answer is yes.
792
00:38:36,615 --> 00:38:39,184
Who wants to say no?
793
00:38:39,284 --> 00:38:40,552
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): In Wyoming,
794
00:38:40,652 --> 00:38:45,357
Phillips arranged to meet a
woman named Mary Boyd Rhodes.
795
00:38:45,457 --> 00:38:49,127
In 1934, Mary and her
16-year-old granddaughter Ione
796
00:38:49,227 --> 00:38:54,232
rode out to Phillips' campsite
in the Wind River Mountains.
797
00:38:54,332 --> 00:38:55,601
IONE MANNING: The man
that my grandmother
798
00:38:55,701 --> 00:38:59,971
met that day was going by
the name of William Phillips.
799
00:39:00,071 --> 00:39:05,076
And she knew him by the
name of LeRoy George Parker,
800
00:39:05,176 --> 00:39:07,078
who is known as Butch Cassidy.
801
00:39:10,616 --> 00:39:11,850
Mary Boyd.
802
00:39:11,950 --> 00:39:13,852
IONE MANNING (VOICEOVER): He
recognized her immediately,
803
00:39:13,952 --> 00:39:15,286
and she recognized him.
804
00:39:15,387 --> 00:39:16,455
Oh, George Parker.
805
00:39:19,691 --> 00:39:22,327
IONE MANNING: I sensed that
they had a relationship that I
806
00:39:22,428 --> 00:39:25,330
had never known much about.
807
00:39:25,431 --> 00:39:28,366
So my grandmother had
finally told me that he
808
00:39:28,467 --> 00:39:30,802
was her childhood sweetheart.
809
00:39:33,805 --> 00:39:35,073
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Three years
810
00:39:35,173 --> 00:39:37,843
after his meeting with Mary
Boyd Rhodes in Wyoming, William
811
00:39:37,943 --> 00:39:40,512
Phillips died of cancer.
812
00:39:40,612 --> 00:39:42,581
But shortly before
his death, Phillips
813
00:39:42,681 --> 00:39:44,650
mailed this ring to Mary.
814
00:39:44,750 --> 00:39:47,853
It was engraved
"George C. and Mary B."
815
00:39:51,356 --> 00:39:54,059
I believe William Phillips
pretended to be Butch Cassidy
816
00:39:54,159 --> 00:39:55,961
because he was having fun.
817
00:39:56,061 --> 00:39:57,328
He traveled out to the West.
818
00:39:57,429 --> 00:39:59,230
He met some people.
819
00:39:59,330 --> 00:40:01,366
He probably got some free beers.
820
00:40:01,467 --> 00:40:04,470
He certainly got a lot
of adventures out of it.
821
00:40:04,570 --> 00:40:08,173
He definitely looked
like Butch Cassidy.
822
00:40:08,273 --> 00:40:11,242
But some people have recently
done some photo comparisons
823
00:40:11,342 --> 00:40:16,247
of the two and established
that they have different heads
824
00:40:16,347 --> 00:40:17,649
and different faces.
825
00:40:17,749 --> 00:40:20,652
Cassidy basically had small
features on a big head
826
00:40:20,752 --> 00:40:22,287
with a lantern jaw.
827
00:40:22,387 --> 00:40:25,757
And Phillips had more normal
features with a more or less
828
00:40:25,857 --> 00:40:31,697
pointed chin, and his head
was basically an inch or more
829
00:40:31,797 --> 00:40:33,732
lower than Butch Cassidy's.
830
00:40:36,334 --> 00:40:38,036
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Several other clues, however,
831
00:40:38,136 --> 00:40:41,306
suggest that Butch and Phillips
were one and the same man.
832
00:40:44,175 --> 00:40:46,377
William Phillips wrote
an unpublished manuscript
833
00:40:46,478 --> 00:40:50,248
entitled "A Bandit Invincible:
The Story of Butch Cassidy."
834
00:40:50,348 --> 00:40:53,318
It contained specific details
about Cassidy's outlaw
835
00:40:53,418 --> 00:40:56,321
adventures.
836
00:40:56,421 --> 00:40:58,557
JAMES DULLENTY: Well, there's
material in that manuscript
837
00:40:58,657 --> 00:41:02,127
that no one else knew, that
had never been published.
838
00:41:02,227 --> 00:41:05,997
Either the man who wrote it
had to have intimate knowledge
839
00:41:06,097 --> 00:41:09,134
of Cassidy, or he was Cassidy.
840
00:41:11,102 --> 00:41:12,337
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Phillips owned
841
00:41:12,437 --> 00:41:14,573
this six-shot Colt revolver.
842
00:41:14,673 --> 00:41:19,711
Carved into the pistol
grip is a unique brand.
843
00:41:19,811 --> 00:41:21,580
LARRY POINTER: That
brand was the reverse E
844
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,683
box E. To most
people in Spokane,
845
00:41:24,783 --> 00:41:25,917
that would be meaningless.
846
00:41:26,017 --> 00:41:27,485
But to a researcher
from Wyoming,
847
00:41:27,586 --> 00:41:29,588
that was exciting,
because that was Butch
848
00:41:29,688 --> 00:41:32,758
Cassidy's brand in the 1890s.
849
00:41:32,858 --> 00:41:34,059
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Another piece
850
00:41:34,159 --> 00:41:35,827
of evidence that seems
to connect the two
851
00:41:35,927 --> 00:41:40,065
men is their handwriting.
852
00:41:40,165 --> 00:41:43,535
"Unsolved Mysteries" contacted
certified graphologist Sheila
853
00:41:43,635 --> 00:41:45,804
Lowe, who has been used
as an expert witness
854
00:41:45,904 --> 00:41:48,907
by the California
judicial court system.
855
00:41:49,007 --> 00:41:51,409
Sheila compared five
handwritten letters,
856
00:41:51,509 --> 00:41:53,712
four penned by Butch
Cassidy, the other
857
00:41:53,812 --> 00:41:55,647
written by William Phillips.
858
00:41:55,747 --> 00:41:57,749
She concluded that
all five letters
859
00:41:57,849 --> 00:42:01,052
are written by the same man.
860
00:42:01,152 --> 00:42:02,754
SHEILA LOWE: I found that
some of the letter forms
861
00:42:02,854 --> 00:42:04,255
were identical.
862
00:42:04,355 --> 00:42:07,125
And especially when I laid one
transparency over the other,
863
00:42:07,225 --> 00:42:08,359
they were--
864
00:42:08,459 --> 00:42:10,996
it was as if they were
written at the same moment,
865
00:42:11,096 --> 00:42:11,897
they were so similar.
866
00:42:14,666 --> 00:42:19,638
I believe that, without
doubt, the man known to Wyoming
867
00:42:19,738 --> 00:42:23,508
residents in the 1890s
as George "Butch" Cassidy
868
00:42:23,609 --> 00:42:29,581
was William T. Phillips who
died in Spokane in 1937.
869
00:42:29,681 --> 00:42:30,816
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Was William
870
00:42:30,916 --> 00:42:33,284
Phillips indeed Butch Cassidy?
871
00:42:33,384 --> 00:42:35,553
If so, then what became
of his famed partner,
872
00:42:35,654 --> 00:42:37,623
the Sundance Kid?
873
00:42:37,723 --> 00:42:40,592
There are some who believe that
he, too, returned to the US
874
00:42:40,692 --> 00:42:42,193
and died of old age.
875
00:42:46,632 --> 00:42:48,634
There is perhaps little
chance that this mystery
876
00:42:48,734 --> 00:42:50,435
will ever be solved.
877
00:42:50,535 --> 00:42:52,437
But one thing is certain.
878
00:42:52,537 --> 00:42:54,172
Butch Cassidy and
the Sundance Kid
879
00:42:54,272 --> 00:42:58,276
were legends destined to live
long past their own deaths,
880
00:42:58,376 --> 00:43:00,879
regardless of when or
where that may have been.
881
00:43:03,849 --> 00:43:05,784
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Next,
a woman's heartwarming search
882
00:43:05,884 --> 00:43:07,585
for the brothers and
sister she hasn't
883
00:43:07,686 --> 00:43:09,454
seen in more than 20 years.
884
00:43:21,466 --> 00:43:25,036
Lakewood, Colorado, 1960.
885
00:43:25,136 --> 00:43:27,906
Another day begins
for the Smith family.
886
00:43:28,006 --> 00:43:29,841
Once again,
five-year-old Aleatha
887
00:43:29,941 --> 00:43:33,144
is left alone to care for her
younger brothers and sister.
888
00:43:33,244 --> 00:43:34,445
Wake up, Aleatha.
889
00:43:34,545 --> 00:43:36,748
We're hungry.
890
00:43:36,848 --> 00:43:39,017
Is Mommy and Daddy home?
891
00:43:39,117 --> 00:43:40,652
BOY: No.
892
00:43:40,752 --> 00:43:45,791
We'd wake up in the
morning and be alone.
893
00:43:45,891 --> 00:43:49,227
And Richard and I
would go in and get
894
00:43:49,327 --> 00:43:51,730
Marty and Noreen out of bed.
895
00:43:51,830 --> 00:43:59,004
Richard was 4, Marty was around
3, and Noreen was just about 2.
896
00:43:59,104 --> 00:44:04,109
Sometimes, she'd halfway
fall, but we got her out.
897
00:44:04,209 --> 00:44:07,378
I'd go in the kitchen,
get the bread out
898
00:44:07,478 --> 00:44:11,549
and put it in the toaster,
put peanut butter on it.
899
00:44:11,649 --> 00:44:12,583
And that was breakfast.
900
00:44:12,684 --> 00:44:15,453
Marty, stop
sucking your thumb.
901
00:44:15,553 --> 00:44:19,457
ALEATHA EVERTZ (VOICEOVER): I
remember giving Noreen bottles.
902
00:44:19,557 --> 00:44:26,031
I remember asking Marty
to stop sucking his thumb.
903
00:44:26,131 --> 00:44:27,598
It was empty.
904
00:44:27,699 --> 00:44:30,301
We were afraid.
I know I was.
905
00:44:35,907 --> 00:44:37,275
Aleatha Smith's
parents were married
906
00:44:37,375 --> 00:44:39,745
as teenagers, still
unprepared for the challenges
907
00:44:39,845 --> 00:44:41,479
of raising a family.
908
00:44:41,579 --> 00:44:44,515
Sadly, both were often
absent from the home.
909
00:44:44,615 --> 00:44:47,585
Five-year-old Aleatha assumed
the role of mother, father,
910
00:44:47,685 --> 00:44:49,955
and protector for her
brothers, Richard and Marty,
911
00:44:50,055 --> 00:44:51,957
and her sister, Noreen.
912
00:44:52,057 --> 00:44:53,558
When their parents
separated, the children
913
00:44:53,658 --> 00:44:56,294
were placed in the state's
foster care system. .
914
00:44:59,397 --> 00:45:01,566
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): July 1960.
915
00:45:01,666 --> 00:45:04,202
The Smith children went to
live with foster parents
916
00:45:04,302 --> 00:45:06,537
Frank and Mary Anne Wiley.
917
00:45:06,637 --> 00:45:08,439
For the first time,
they knew the comfort
918
00:45:08,539 --> 00:45:10,942
and security of a stable home.
919
00:45:11,042 --> 00:45:12,643
All right, this is the kids.
920
00:45:12,744 --> 00:45:14,846
Hi, guys.
921
00:45:14,946 --> 00:45:17,582
WOMAN: This is
Noreen and Aleatha.
922
00:45:17,682 --> 00:45:19,617
MARY ANNE WILEY: They
were cure little kids.
923
00:45:19,717 --> 00:45:22,587
Little Noreen, you
know, just a baby.
924
00:45:22,687 --> 00:45:24,856
Marty was mild mannered.
925
00:45:24,956 --> 00:45:28,927
Richard was a little
more of a free spirit.
926
00:45:29,027 --> 00:45:33,131
And Aleatha was
just a sweet girl.
927
00:45:33,231 --> 00:45:35,100
They were nice
little kids to have.
928
00:45:39,304 --> 00:45:41,139
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The
Wileys' small farm opened up
929
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,909
a whole new world for the
children, particularly
930
00:45:44,009 --> 00:45:46,878
Aleatha, who got her first
real taste of childhood.
931
00:45:50,415 --> 00:45:52,717
ALEATHA EVERTZ: We
played a lot outdoors.
932
00:45:52,818 --> 00:45:54,252
They had farm animals.
933
00:45:54,352 --> 00:45:55,720
We'd feed them or gather eggs.
934
00:45:59,157 --> 00:46:03,394
Living at the Wileys
was warm and caring.
935
00:46:06,697 --> 00:46:10,368
She took care of the
meals and the clothes,
936
00:46:10,468 --> 00:46:14,505
and that felt good and secure.
937
00:46:14,605 --> 00:46:15,440
Right up there.
938
00:46:15,540 --> 00:46:16,908
- Right up here?
- Mm-hmm.
939
00:46:17,008 --> 00:46:17,876
OK.
940
00:46:17,976 --> 00:46:21,212
[phone rings]
941
00:46:21,312 --> 00:46:22,580
Hello?
942
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,916
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In
December 1962, the dream ended.
943
00:46:25,016 --> 00:46:25,984
Yes?
944
00:46:26,084 --> 00:46:27,285
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Aleatha's father
945
00:46:27,385 --> 00:46:29,087
had arranged to take the
children back for Christmas.
946
00:46:29,187 --> 00:46:30,421
Well, I really
don't think this
947
00:46:30,521 --> 00:46:33,691
is a very good time for the
kids to have to go with you.
948
00:46:33,791 --> 00:46:36,161
MARY ANNE WILEY: I told him
that I felt that they should be
949
00:46:36,261 --> 00:46:38,997
able to have their Christmas
wherever they had it planned,
950
00:46:39,097 --> 00:46:40,731
that disrupting
them at that point
951
00:46:40,832 --> 00:46:43,068
was going to be
difficult for them.
952
00:46:43,168 --> 00:46:47,105
And so they did agree to let
us have our Christmas morning
953
00:46:47,205 --> 00:46:48,106
and our Christmas dinner.
954
00:46:48,206 --> 00:46:49,807
And then they would
come after that
955
00:46:49,908 --> 00:46:54,545
and take the children over
there, which they did.
956
00:46:54,645 --> 00:46:56,247
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Regrettably, the children
957
00:46:56,347 --> 00:46:59,450
found life with their
father unchanged.
958
00:46:59,550 --> 00:47:01,219
Aleatha was once
again left to care
959
00:47:01,319 --> 00:47:03,354
for her brothers and sister.
960
00:47:03,454 --> 00:47:05,223
[knocking]
961
00:47:05,323 --> 00:47:07,625
But the situation
did not go unnoticed.
962
00:47:16,601 --> 00:47:18,303
Hi, honey.
ALEATHA: Hi.
963
00:47:18,403 --> 00:47:19,237
Uh, is your mommy home?
964
00:47:19,337 --> 00:47:20,571
ALEATHA: No.
965
00:47:20,671 --> 00:47:21,539
How about your daddy?
966
00:47:21,639 --> 00:47:22,740
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Concerned
967
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,375
neighbors had alerted
the police to the dilemma
968
00:47:24,475 --> 00:47:27,012
of the Smith children.
969
00:47:27,112 --> 00:47:29,047
They were once again
taken from their home
970
00:47:29,147 --> 00:47:32,183
and returned to the
foster care system.
971
00:47:32,283 --> 00:47:34,685
Eventually, the children were
placed with separate families
972
00:47:34,785 --> 00:47:37,122
and lost touch with one another.
973
00:47:37,222 --> 00:47:38,957
Aleatha was shuttled
from foster home
974
00:47:39,057 --> 00:47:42,327
to foster home until, four
years later, she was sent
975
00:47:42,427 --> 00:47:43,594
back to live with the Wileys.
976
00:47:47,498 --> 00:47:50,001
MARY ANNE WILEY: I remember
it like it was yesterday.
977
00:47:50,101 --> 00:47:52,270
I received a phone call
from social services,
978
00:47:52,370 --> 00:47:55,306
and she asked me if I
remembered Aleatha Smith.
979
00:47:55,406 --> 00:47:57,342
And I said, I sure do.
980
00:47:57,442 --> 00:48:00,912
And she said, how would
you like to have her back?
981
00:48:01,012 --> 00:48:02,747
And I said yes.
982
00:48:02,847 --> 00:48:06,417
In a matter of 40 minutes, she
was walking in the front door.
983
00:48:09,687 --> 00:48:14,659
But it took her a
while to loosen up.
984
00:48:14,759 --> 00:48:17,728
And it was-- you know,
I think I expected her
985
00:48:17,828 --> 00:48:21,199
to be all warm and wonderful.
986
00:48:21,299 --> 00:48:23,935
And she had had a
lot of bad times,
987
00:48:24,035 --> 00:48:25,270
and it was going
to take a while.
988
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,308
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Aleatha's years
989
00:48:30,408 --> 00:48:32,010
in foster care had
left her a bitter,
990
00:48:32,110 --> 00:48:34,545
temperamental adolescent.
991
00:48:34,645 --> 00:48:36,781
She longed to find
her natural parents
992
00:48:36,881 --> 00:48:38,716
and eventually ran
away from the Wileys.
993
00:48:43,521 --> 00:48:47,258
ALEATHA EVERTZ (VOICEOVER):
I had saved my allowances,
994
00:48:47,358 --> 00:48:48,759
and I got--
995
00:48:48,859 --> 00:48:51,796
I believe it was $21.
996
00:48:51,896 --> 00:48:58,836
My plan was to go to Oklahoma,
Sand Springs, Oklahoma,
997
00:48:58,936 --> 00:49:01,206
to find my parents.
998
00:49:01,306 --> 00:49:04,709
I had an idea that my
grandmother lived there.
999
00:49:10,115 --> 00:49:14,252
With my allowance money,
I bought my ticket
1000
00:49:14,352 --> 00:49:17,755
for the bus trip to Oklahoma.
1001
00:49:17,855 --> 00:49:23,428
I remember while I was riding
along flashing back on memories
1002
00:49:23,528 --> 00:49:24,762
of when I was little.
1003
00:49:24,862 --> 00:49:29,767
And that's all I thought
about, was getting there.
1004
00:49:32,637 --> 00:49:33,871
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Aleatha
1005
00:49:33,971 --> 00:49:38,776
journeyed more than 600 miles
to Sand Springs, Oklahoma.
1006
00:49:38,876 --> 00:49:41,246
Alone with nowhere else
to turn, she sought
1007
00:49:41,346 --> 00:49:44,849
refuge in a local church.
1008
00:49:44,949 --> 00:49:47,052
ALEATHA EVERTZ: I
went to a church
1009
00:49:47,152 --> 00:49:51,556
and talked to a minister.
1010
00:49:51,656 --> 00:49:56,661
He agreed to take me around,
and we'd drive to try to find
1011
00:49:56,761 --> 00:49:59,964
this farm that I remembered.
1012
00:50:00,065 --> 00:50:02,900
Do you remember what
the house looked like?
1013
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,336
I think it was white or gray.
1014
00:50:05,436 --> 00:50:06,804
MINISTER: White or gray.
1015
00:50:06,904 --> 00:50:08,005
Anything else?
1016
00:50:08,106 --> 00:50:09,640
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Aleatha and the minister
1017
00:50:09,740 --> 00:50:11,642
spent several hours searching
for her grandmother's farm--
1018
00:50:11,742 --> 00:50:12,877
Was it like that one there?
1019
00:50:12,977 --> 00:50:14,212
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
--to no avail.
1020
00:50:14,312 --> 00:50:16,181
It was bigger.
1021
00:50:16,281 --> 00:50:17,715
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Late that afternoon,
1022
00:50:17,815 --> 00:50:20,918
he dropped Aleatha off at
the local police station.
1023
00:50:21,018 --> 00:50:23,188
They identified her as a
runaway and returned her
1024
00:50:23,288 --> 00:50:26,957
to the foster care
system once again.
1025
00:50:27,058 --> 00:50:29,327
It would be years before
Aleatha was reunited
1026
00:50:29,427 --> 00:50:31,162
with her natural parents.
1027
00:50:31,262 --> 00:50:33,498
She never did find her
brothers, Richard and Marty,
1028
00:50:33,598 --> 00:50:35,166
or her sister, Noreen.
1029
00:50:38,269 --> 00:50:42,840
It's like reading a good
book and you get a phone call
1030
00:50:42,940 --> 00:50:45,476
you have to rush off to work.
1031
00:50:45,576 --> 00:50:47,745
You have to put that book down.
1032
00:50:47,845 --> 00:50:52,049
Most people know they can
come back to that book.
1033
00:50:52,150 --> 00:50:53,184
I've never gone back.
1034
00:50:53,284 --> 00:50:54,085
Now, I want to know.
1035
00:50:57,155 --> 00:50:58,523
I want to know.
1036
00:51:18,909 --> 00:51:20,945
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): On
the next "Unsolved Mysteries,"
1037
00:51:21,045 --> 00:51:23,914
in 1987, Michael Francke
was hired to reform
1038
00:51:24,014 --> 00:51:25,950
the prison system in Oregon.
1039
00:51:26,050 --> 00:51:28,286
Two years later, he was
found stabbed to death
1040
00:51:28,386 --> 00:51:30,155
just outside his office.
1041
00:51:30,255 --> 00:51:34,325
His family believes
he was assassinated.
1042
00:51:34,425 --> 00:51:37,061
Chicago, the 1930s.
1043
00:51:37,162 --> 00:51:39,964
Eliot Ness, a 26-year-old
Treasury agent,
1044
00:51:40,064 --> 00:51:43,067
organized the immortal crime
busting unit the Untouchables
1045
00:51:43,168 --> 00:51:46,337
and helped bring down
the empire of Al Capone.
1046
00:51:46,437 --> 00:51:49,207
Later, in Cleveland,
Ohio, Eliot Ness finally
1047
00:51:49,307 --> 00:51:51,176
encountered the one
criminal he could not
1048
00:51:51,276 --> 00:51:54,412
bring to justice, a serial
killer who may have left
1049
00:51:54,512 --> 00:51:58,183
behind more than 30 victims.
1050
00:51:58,283 --> 00:52:00,851
Join me next time for
this special segment
1051
00:52:00,951 --> 00:52:03,521
as we illuminate a
side of Eliot Ness
1052
00:52:03,621 --> 00:52:05,156
few people have ever known.
1053
00:52:08,859 --> 00:52:12,397
[theme music]
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