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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:20,788 --> 00:00:23,257 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. 2 00:00:23,357 --> 00:00:24,992 These outlaw legends were immortalized 3 00:00:25,093 --> 00:00:28,696 by the movie starring Paul Newman and Robert Redford. 4 00:00:28,796 --> 00:00:31,232 According to history, Butch and Sundance was gunned 5 00:00:31,332 --> 00:00:33,201 down by soldiers in Bolivia. 6 00:00:33,301 --> 00:00:36,904 But some experts now believe one of the famous bandits 7 00:00:37,004 --> 00:00:39,373 escaped to the United States and lived 8 00:00:39,473 --> 00:00:43,277 out his life as a prosperous Seattle businessman. 9 00:00:43,377 --> 00:00:45,313 For nearly seven years, Cindy James 10 00:00:45,413 --> 00:00:47,748 was a victim of more than 100 separate incidents 11 00:00:47,848 --> 00:00:51,719 of harassment, including five violent physical attacks. 12 00:00:51,819 --> 00:00:55,389 Police suspected that Cindy staged the incident herself. 13 00:00:55,489 --> 00:00:59,227 Then in 1989, Cindy was found dead, her hands 14 00:00:59,327 --> 00:01:01,929 and feet bound behind her back. 15 00:01:02,029 --> 00:01:04,998 On a desolate highway in Texas, two women and a young boy 16 00:01:05,099 --> 00:01:08,436 had a bizarre encounter with an unidentified object. 17 00:01:08,536 --> 00:01:11,539 Today, all three are plagued by mysterious illnesses 18 00:01:11,639 --> 00:01:14,041 whose symptoms began to appear that very night. 19 00:01:17,178 --> 00:01:18,646 For every mystery, there is someone 20 00:01:18,746 --> 00:01:21,182 somewhere who knows the truth. 21 00:01:21,282 --> 00:01:23,417 Perhaps that someone is watching. 22 00:01:23,517 --> 00:01:25,419 Perhaps it's you. 23 00:01:25,519 --> 00:01:27,421 Join me. 24 00:01:27,521 --> 00:01:31,392 [theme music] 25 00:02:16,470 --> 00:02:17,905 REPORTER (ON TV): The body of the blonde woman 26 00:02:18,005 --> 00:02:20,874 was clothed in brown slacks, a pink blouse, and shoes. 27 00:02:20,974 --> 00:02:21,942 The 44-year-old-- 28 00:02:22,042 --> 00:02:23,511 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): June 8, 1989. 29 00:02:23,611 --> 00:02:27,215 Richmond, a suburb of Vancouver, British Columbia. 30 00:02:27,315 --> 00:02:28,982 The evening news carries a report 31 00:02:29,082 --> 00:02:32,920 that has become all too common, the discovery of a dead body-- 32 00:02:33,020 --> 00:02:37,791 in this case, lying in the yard of an abandoned house. 33 00:02:37,891 --> 00:02:41,929 MAN: The hands were behind her back, strapped to her feet. 34 00:02:42,029 --> 00:02:42,996 REPORTER: Strapped to her feet? 35 00:02:43,096 --> 00:02:44,832 Tied to her feet with a rope or a cord. 36 00:02:44,932 --> 00:02:46,166 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The dead woman 37 00:02:46,267 --> 00:02:49,703 was 44-year-old pediatric nurse Cindy James. 38 00:02:49,803 --> 00:02:51,872 She lived less than two miles from the spot 39 00:02:51,972 --> 00:02:53,106 where her body was found. 40 00:02:56,310 --> 00:02:58,646 For seven years, Cindy had been reporting that she was 41 00:02:58,746 --> 00:03:00,814 the victim of more than 100 separate incidents 42 00:03:00,914 --> 00:03:04,618 of harassment, five of them violent physical attacks. 43 00:03:04,718 --> 00:03:08,589 The police first believed then disbelieved Cindy's stories. 44 00:03:08,689 --> 00:03:11,625 However, Cindy's parents are convinced that their daughter 45 00:03:11,725 --> 00:03:12,526 was murdered. 46 00:03:14,995 --> 00:03:16,464 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Cindy James graduated 47 00:03:16,564 --> 00:03:19,433 from nursing school in 1966. 48 00:03:19,533 --> 00:03:21,769 Within a few years, she was named administrator 49 00:03:21,869 --> 00:03:23,937 of a preschool for children with behavioral 50 00:03:24,037 --> 00:03:25,939 and emotional disorders. 51 00:03:26,039 --> 00:03:29,743 Cindy was married but never had children of her own. 52 00:03:29,843 --> 00:03:33,847 In July of 1982, Cindy and her husband separated. 53 00:03:33,947 --> 00:03:36,950 Four months later, the phone calls began. 54 00:03:37,050 --> 00:03:40,854 [phone rings] 55 00:03:45,259 --> 00:03:46,059 Hello? 56 00:03:50,264 --> 00:03:52,633 Who is this? 57 00:03:52,733 --> 00:03:54,302 TILLIE HACK: She said it was just a voice. 58 00:03:54,402 --> 00:03:56,036 Sometimes it would change the sound, 59 00:03:56,136 --> 00:03:57,538 and sometimes it was just whispering. 60 00:03:57,638 --> 00:03:59,773 Sometimes it was just nothing, just silence. 61 00:04:03,110 --> 00:04:06,280 As far as we know, she did not recognize the voice. 62 00:04:06,380 --> 00:04:08,349 Of course, I think we should add a qualifier there 63 00:04:08,449 --> 00:04:10,518 that she was very, very reluctant to talk 64 00:04:10,618 --> 00:04:13,687 about this right to the end, and our feeling 65 00:04:13,787 --> 00:04:17,525 was that she was withholding something extremely vital. 66 00:04:17,625 --> 00:04:18,859 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Cindy reported 67 00:04:18,959 --> 00:04:21,128 the threatening calls to Vancouver police, 68 00:04:21,228 --> 00:04:23,431 who began an investigation. 69 00:04:23,531 --> 00:04:25,132 Over the next three months, she said 70 00:04:25,232 --> 00:04:27,200 that the harassment escalated. 71 00:04:27,301 --> 00:04:29,036 At night, she heard prowlers. 72 00:04:29,136 --> 00:04:34,174 Her porch lights were smashed, her phone lines severed. 73 00:04:34,274 --> 00:04:36,377 Bizarre cut-and-paste notes began 74 00:04:36,477 --> 00:04:39,980 to appear on her doorstep. 75 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:44,017 She told me many times that he wanted to scare her to death. 76 00:04:44,117 --> 00:04:45,619 She said, he doesn't want to kill me. 77 00:04:45,719 --> 00:04:47,120 He wants to scare me to death. 78 00:04:50,691 --> 00:04:53,126 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): On January 27, 1983, 79 00:04:53,226 --> 00:04:56,129 Agnes Woodcock dropped by Cindy's house for a visit. 80 00:05:09,076 --> 00:05:09,977 Cindy? 81 00:05:10,077 --> 00:05:11,178 AGNES WOODCOCK (VOICEOVER): I went out 82 00:05:11,278 --> 00:05:12,312 and knocked on the door. 83 00:05:12,413 --> 00:05:13,481 There was no answer. 84 00:05:13,581 --> 00:05:15,349 I assumed she was having her bath. 85 00:05:15,449 --> 00:05:17,084 She did every night. 86 00:05:17,184 --> 00:05:19,787 And I thought I heard something, and I wasn't sure what it was. 87 00:05:25,225 --> 00:05:26,594 AGNES: [gasp] 88 00:05:29,597 --> 00:05:30,631 Cindy! 89 00:05:30,731 --> 00:05:31,932 What happened? 90 00:05:32,032 --> 00:05:33,333 AGNES WOODCOCK (VOICEOVER): I found 91 00:05:33,434 --> 00:05:36,169 her crunched down with a nylon tied tightly around her neck. 92 00:05:36,269 --> 00:05:38,872 AGNES: Oh, are you all right? 93 00:05:38,972 --> 00:05:40,107 AGNES WOODCOCK: Cindy said she'd gone 94 00:05:40,207 --> 00:05:41,675 out to the garage to get a box. 95 00:05:41,775 --> 00:05:43,444 And just as she got to the garage, 96 00:05:43,544 --> 00:05:47,381 she turned, and someone grabbed her from behind, she said. 97 00:05:47,481 --> 00:05:49,316 And all she saw was white sneakers. 98 00:05:52,319 --> 00:05:54,321 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Cindy was thoroughly frightened. 99 00:05:54,422 --> 00:05:56,089 She moved to a new house. 100 00:05:56,189 --> 00:05:58,459 Later, she painted her car and eventually 101 00:05:58,559 --> 00:06:00,994 changed her last name. 102 00:06:01,094 --> 00:06:03,096 The police continued their investigation 103 00:06:03,196 --> 00:06:07,000 and questioned Cindy several times. 104 00:06:07,100 --> 00:06:09,136 OZZIE KABAN: She wouldn't tell them the entire story. 105 00:06:09,236 --> 00:06:11,739 She would be evasive. 106 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:17,678 She would withhold information, and she simply would not act 107 00:06:17,778 --> 00:06:21,214 as a normal victim would act. 108 00:06:21,314 --> 00:06:24,952 And I can see where a police officer 109 00:06:25,052 --> 00:06:26,720 would have a tremendous amount of problem 110 00:06:26,820 --> 00:06:30,458 in believing her story. 111 00:06:30,558 --> 00:06:33,427 Do you live in the city of Vancouver? 112 00:06:33,527 --> 00:06:34,695 Yes. 113 00:06:34,795 --> 00:06:36,063 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Cindy was asked 114 00:06:36,163 --> 00:06:38,466 to take a lie detector test. 115 00:06:38,566 --> 00:06:40,468 The results were inconclusive. 116 00:06:40,568 --> 00:06:42,836 Both times, the polygraph indicated that she 117 00:06:42,936 --> 00:06:44,705 was withholding information. 118 00:06:44,805 --> 00:06:47,207 POLYGRAPH OPERATOR: On January 27, 1983, 119 00:06:47,307 --> 00:06:50,744 were you physically assaulted outside your home? 120 00:06:50,844 --> 00:06:52,613 Yes. 121 00:06:52,713 --> 00:06:56,850 TILLIE HACK: Cindy told me that after she was attacked, 122 00:06:56,950 --> 00:06:58,819 the knife was held at her throat, 123 00:06:58,919 --> 00:07:02,155 and she was told that if you talk, your sister will be next 124 00:07:02,255 --> 00:07:03,724 and then your mother. 125 00:07:03,824 --> 00:07:05,859 So just keep quiet. Don't tell anything. 126 00:07:12,633 --> 00:07:14,902 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): On January 30, 1984, 127 00:07:15,002 --> 00:07:18,639 Ozzie Kaban, a private investigator hired by Cindy, 128 00:07:18,739 --> 00:07:21,308 heard strange sounds coming over a two-way radio 129 00:07:21,408 --> 00:07:22,643 he had given her. 130 00:07:22,743 --> 00:07:24,377 He went straight to Cindy's house. 131 00:07:38,726 --> 00:07:40,260 OZZIE KABAN (VOICEOVER): I went around the house, 132 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,030 and the house was locked. 133 00:07:43,130 --> 00:07:47,200 I was able to look into the house through a window, 134 00:07:47,300 --> 00:07:50,904 and I found Cindy lying there. 135 00:07:51,004 --> 00:07:51,805 101 to base. 136 00:07:51,905 --> 00:07:52,706 Get me the police. 137 00:07:55,408 --> 00:07:56,644 Cindy? 138 00:07:56,744 --> 00:07:57,611 Cindy, can you hear me? 139 00:07:57,711 --> 00:07:58,746 OZZIE KABAN: I took a look at her, 140 00:07:58,846 --> 00:08:00,781 and I thought she was dead. 141 00:08:00,881 --> 00:08:04,084 There was a note that was pinned with a paring knife 142 00:08:04,184 --> 00:08:06,486 through her hand. 143 00:08:06,587 --> 00:08:10,157 I went to the telephone, called 911. 144 00:08:10,257 --> 00:08:12,893 Within about two minutes, the medical people arrived. 145 00:08:12,993 --> 00:08:17,898 And she revived briefly, and then 146 00:08:17,998 --> 00:08:20,868 they took her to the hospital. 147 00:08:20,968 --> 00:08:24,672 When I interviewed Cindy, she told me that she noticed 148 00:08:24,772 --> 00:08:27,174 a man coming through the gate. 149 00:08:27,274 --> 00:08:29,743 The next thing she remembers is being 150 00:08:29,843 --> 00:08:34,147 hit on the side of the head with a piece of wood 151 00:08:34,247 --> 00:08:36,349 or something of that nature. 152 00:08:36,449 --> 00:08:40,621 She then remembered being held down on the floor, 153 00:08:40,721 --> 00:08:44,424 and she remembered a needle going into her arm. 154 00:08:44,524 --> 00:08:46,894 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Neal Hall of the "Vancouver Sun" 155 00:08:46,994 --> 00:08:49,663 has covered Cindy's case for two years. 156 00:08:49,763 --> 00:08:51,632 $1 and 1/2 million, it's been estimated, 157 00:08:51,732 --> 00:08:55,002 police spent investigating Cindy James' complaints, 158 00:08:55,102 --> 00:08:57,404 more than 100 incidents. 159 00:08:57,504 --> 00:09:00,107 And they could never find a suspect. 160 00:09:00,207 --> 00:09:02,309 They could never find a-- 161 00:09:02,409 --> 00:09:05,178 they could never-- there was no sighting of a suspect. 162 00:09:05,278 --> 00:09:07,247 There was never a fingerprint from a suspect. 163 00:09:07,347 --> 00:09:09,683 There was no independent corroboration. 164 00:09:09,783 --> 00:09:11,184 Cindy saw this person-- 165 00:09:11,284 --> 00:09:14,254 or sometimes she said there was two, sometimes three people-- 166 00:09:14,354 --> 00:09:17,891 going on year after year after year. 167 00:09:17,991 --> 00:09:19,326 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): After one attack, 168 00:09:19,426 --> 00:09:21,662 Royal Canadian Mounted Police tape recorded 169 00:09:21,762 --> 00:09:23,396 their questioning of Cindy. 170 00:09:23,496 --> 00:09:26,399 This is an actual excerpt from that interview. 171 00:09:43,150 --> 00:09:45,152 There were times I would talk with her, and I would say, 172 00:09:45,252 --> 00:09:49,156 Cindy, please tell me what's going on. 173 00:09:49,256 --> 00:09:50,624 And she'd say, I can't, Mother. 174 00:09:50,724 --> 00:09:52,092 I can't. 175 00:09:52,192 --> 00:09:54,394 I'd say, why not? 176 00:09:54,494 --> 00:09:57,264 Because, she says, I'm afraid for you. 177 00:09:57,364 --> 00:10:00,533 [phone rings] 178 00:10:02,569 --> 00:10:03,671 Hello? 179 00:10:03,771 --> 00:10:04,972 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The threatening phone 180 00:10:05,072 --> 00:10:08,575 calls continued but were too short to trace. 181 00:10:08,676 --> 00:10:11,144 Why are you doing this to me? 182 00:10:11,244 --> 00:10:12,846 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Police began to formulate 183 00:10:12,946 --> 00:10:14,748 a disturbing theory. 184 00:10:14,848 --> 00:10:16,917 Incredibly, they believed Cindy might 185 00:10:17,017 --> 00:10:19,019 have been staging the entire harassment 186 00:10:19,119 --> 00:10:23,056 campaign against herself. 187 00:10:23,156 --> 00:10:25,759 They had 24-hour surveillance on her house for, like, days 188 00:10:25,859 --> 00:10:29,162 on end with up to 14 officers. 189 00:10:29,262 --> 00:10:31,598 But never, when surveillance was on her house, never 190 00:10:31,699 --> 00:10:33,767 any event would happen. 191 00:10:33,867 --> 00:10:35,703 As soon as surveillance was taken off, 192 00:10:35,803 --> 00:10:38,071 of course, then she'd get another incident that happened. 193 00:10:38,171 --> 00:10:40,841 When the police were watching the house, 194 00:10:40,941 --> 00:10:42,409 we would say to them, well, you know, 195 00:10:42,509 --> 00:10:44,077 if it's somebody doing that, sure as heck 196 00:10:44,177 --> 00:10:45,846 he knows you're there. 197 00:10:45,946 --> 00:10:47,715 And of course, nobody will do anything while you're 198 00:10:47,815 --> 00:10:48,615 sitting there and watching. 199 00:10:51,551 --> 00:10:53,553 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): On December 11, 1985, 200 00:10:53,653 --> 00:10:55,789 Cindy was found dazed and semi-conscious 201 00:10:55,889 --> 00:10:59,026 lying in this ditch six miles from her home. 202 00:10:59,126 --> 00:11:01,128 She was wearing a man's work boot and glove 203 00:11:01,228 --> 00:11:03,663 and suffering from hypothermia. 204 00:11:03,764 --> 00:11:06,299 Cuts and abrasions covered her body. 205 00:11:06,399 --> 00:11:09,036 Once again, a black nylon stocking had been 206 00:11:09,136 --> 00:11:10,904 tied tightly around her neck. 207 00:11:11,004 --> 00:11:15,175 Once again, Cindy said she had no memory of what happened. 208 00:11:15,275 --> 00:11:17,878 The police became more and more convinced that Cindy 209 00:11:17,978 --> 00:11:21,114 was somehow attacking herself. 210 00:11:21,214 --> 00:11:26,286 The police did not investigate the possibility of homicide, 211 00:11:26,386 --> 00:11:29,289 of somebody murdering her, but zeroed in on trying to prove 212 00:11:29,389 --> 00:11:31,158 that she committed suicide. 213 00:11:31,258 --> 00:11:35,662 And I'm very angry with the ineptitude, the bungling 214 00:11:35,763 --> 00:11:39,499 by those who are responsible to protect our citizens 215 00:11:39,599 --> 00:11:43,804 and to do something about, first of all, 216 00:11:43,904 --> 00:11:47,507 preventing a death like this, and secondly, 217 00:11:47,607 --> 00:11:50,143 when it does occur, not investigating it properly. 218 00:11:50,243 --> 00:11:52,479 [knocking] 219 00:11:54,414 --> 00:11:55,515 Agnes, wake up! 220 00:11:55,615 --> 00:11:56,850 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Several times, 221 00:11:56,950 --> 00:11:59,452 Cindy asked Agnes Woodcock and her husband, Tom, 222 00:11:59,552 --> 00:12:01,221 to spend the night with her. 223 00:12:01,321 --> 00:12:04,057 On one occasion, Cindy woke them well after midnight. 224 00:12:08,428 --> 00:12:10,263 AGNES WOODCOCK (VOICEOVER): Cindy came running to the door 225 00:12:10,363 --> 00:12:12,099 and said, Tom, I heard a noise downstairs. 226 00:12:12,199 --> 00:12:13,500 And Tom said, I heard it, too. 227 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:14,734 It was like a loud thump. 228 00:12:18,071 --> 00:12:19,139 Something's burning. 229 00:12:19,239 --> 00:12:20,440 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Agnes and Tom 230 00:12:20,540 --> 00:12:22,542 went downstairs with Cindy. 231 00:12:22,642 --> 00:12:24,011 The basement was in flames. 232 00:12:24,111 --> 00:12:25,478 Oh, my god! Agnes, call 911! 233 00:12:25,578 --> 00:12:27,680 AGNES WOODCOCK: Cindy asked me to call the fire department. 234 00:12:27,781 --> 00:12:30,383 So I ran to the phone, and the phone was dead. 235 00:12:30,483 --> 00:12:32,886 So Tom went outside and called the neighbor 236 00:12:32,986 --> 00:12:36,056 and asked if he would call the fire department. 237 00:12:36,156 --> 00:12:38,892 And when he went out, there was a man standing on the curb. 238 00:12:38,992 --> 00:12:42,529 And Tom asked him, and he ran away down the street. 239 00:12:42,629 --> 00:12:43,864 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The police 240 00:12:43,964 --> 00:12:46,900 suspected once again that Cindy had staged the incident. 241 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,201 --with further questions. 242 00:12:48,301 --> 00:12:49,302 Thank you. 243 00:12:49,402 --> 00:12:50,670 NEAL HALL: There was no dust or fingerprints 244 00:12:50,770 --> 00:12:52,873 disturbed on the outside of the windowsill. 245 00:12:52,973 --> 00:12:56,009 But somebody set the fires from inside the home, 246 00:12:56,109 --> 00:12:58,078 and we had to climb through that window. 247 00:12:58,178 --> 00:12:59,880 Now, that should have been one sign that people 248 00:12:59,980 --> 00:13:01,681 should have realized. 249 00:13:01,781 --> 00:13:03,917 Also, she said she was out walking her dog late at night 250 00:13:04,017 --> 00:13:05,318 that night. 251 00:13:05,418 --> 00:13:07,120 Now, if somebody was attacked, why would 252 00:13:07,220 --> 00:13:09,222 they go out alone walking their dog at 3 o'clock 253 00:13:09,322 --> 00:13:10,290 in the morning? 254 00:13:10,390 --> 00:13:12,325 Does that make sense? 255 00:13:12,425 --> 00:13:13,660 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Finally, 256 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,397 Cindy's doctor committed her to a local psychiatric ward. 257 00:13:17,497 --> 00:13:19,967 He fully believed Cindy's accounts of harassment 258 00:13:20,067 --> 00:13:21,801 but feared she was becoming suicidal. 259 00:13:24,137 --> 00:13:25,405 ALLAN CONNOLLY: I think one of the things 260 00:13:25,505 --> 00:13:27,274 that she found most difficult was 261 00:13:27,374 --> 00:13:29,109 that people didn't believe her. 262 00:13:29,209 --> 00:13:30,944 She was always doubted. 263 00:13:31,044 --> 00:13:32,545 She knew she was doubted, and that 264 00:13:32,645 --> 00:13:34,814 was what slowly drove her crazy, the fact 265 00:13:34,915 --> 00:13:35,715 that she wasn't believed. 266 00:13:39,786 --> 00:13:40,820 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): 10 weeks 267 00:13:40,921 --> 00:13:43,056 later, Cindy left the hospital. 268 00:13:43,156 --> 00:13:45,492 She finally admitted to her family and friends 269 00:13:45,592 --> 00:13:50,063 that she had been withholding information. 270 00:13:50,163 --> 00:13:52,032 OTTO HACK: She told me for the first time she was convinced 271 00:13:52,132 --> 00:13:55,168 who the perpetrator was, and in her own words, 272 00:13:55,268 --> 00:13:58,738 if the police can't solve this, I'll solve it for them. 273 00:13:58,838 --> 00:14:00,273 And she said, when it's all over, 274 00:14:00,373 --> 00:14:01,909 I'll explain everything to you. 275 00:14:02,009 --> 00:14:03,476 But I can't tell you now. 276 00:14:07,147 --> 00:14:10,283 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): On May 25, 1989, six years and seven 277 00:14:10,383 --> 00:14:12,452 months after the first threatening phone call, 278 00:14:12,552 --> 00:14:15,055 Cindy James disappeared. 279 00:14:15,155 --> 00:14:19,059 That same day, her car was found in a neighborhood parking lot. 280 00:14:19,159 --> 00:14:21,828 Inside were groceries and a wrapped gift. 281 00:14:21,929 --> 00:14:23,931 There was blood on the driver's side door, 282 00:14:24,031 --> 00:14:27,234 and items from Cindy's wallet were under the car. 283 00:14:27,334 --> 00:14:29,802 Two weeks later, Cindy's body was 284 00:14:29,903 --> 00:14:31,338 found at the abandoned house. 285 00:14:34,807 --> 00:14:38,745 Cindy James' death had all the earmarks of a sadistic murder. 286 00:14:38,845 --> 00:14:41,848 Her hands and feet were bound together behind her back. 287 00:14:41,949 --> 00:14:45,919 A black nylon stocking was tied tightly around her neck. 288 00:14:46,019 --> 00:14:49,189 Yet an autopsy would reveal that Cindy had died from an overdose 289 00:14:49,289 --> 00:14:51,658 of morphine and other drugs. 290 00:14:51,758 --> 00:14:56,696 Police believe Cindy had committed an elaborate suicide. 291 00:14:56,796 --> 00:14:58,598 OZZIE KABAN: There is no way that she could have 292 00:14:58,698 --> 00:15:02,835 been able, after ingesting that amount of drugs, 293 00:15:02,936 --> 00:15:04,537 to tie herself up. 294 00:15:04,637 --> 00:15:06,506 There was absolutely nothing at the crime scene 295 00:15:06,606 --> 00:15:09,776 to indicate that she had used any form of syringe 296 00:15:09,876 --> 00:15:11,644 or she had used any drinking device 297 00:15:11,744 --> 00:15:13,146 or anything of that nature. 298 00:15:13,246 --> 00:15:15,315 The morphine wouldn't have taken effect for, say, 299 00:15:15,415 --> 00:15:17,517 15 minutes, half an hour. 300 00:15:17,617 --> 00:15:20,887 The knot specialist who came in and recreated the same type 301 00:15:20,988 --> 00:15:24,391 of knots in the way she was tied up, it took him three minutes. 302 00:15:24,491 --> 00:15:26,693 So basically, if she took the drugs at the same time, 303 00:15:26,793 --> 00:15:28,161 she would have had about 15 minutes 304 00:15:28,261 --> 00:15:29,629 in order to tie herself up. 305 00:15:29,729 --> 00:15:32,199 Cindy was the type of person who was a very proud person. 306 00:15:32,299 --> 00:15:35,969 If she wanted to commit suicide, she would take her dog, 307 00:15:36,069 --> 00:15:38,938 dress herself up properly, lay on the bed, 308 00:15:39,039 --> 00:15:41,508 and that's how she would commit suicide. 309 00:15:41,608 --> 00:15:43,977 Not the way she was found in that horrible place. 310 00:15:47,314 --> 00:15:48,915 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): At the coroner's inquest, 311 00:15:49,016 --> 00:15:50,717 the theory was raised that Cindy suffered 312 00:15:50,817 --> 00:15:53,186 from multiple personality disorder 313 00:15:53,286 --> 00:15:54,754 and that one of her personalities 314 00:15:54,854 --> 00:15:57,857 was trying to destroy the other. 315 00:15:57,957 --> 00:15:59,859 ALLAN CONNOLLY: There was no indication in all of the time 316 00:15:59,959 --> 00:16:01,228 that I saw her-- 317 00:16:01,328 --> 00:16:03,763 and I saw her not just in conversational states. 318 00:16:03,863 --> 00:16:07,167 I saw her in deep hypnotic states as well-- 319 00:16:07,267 --> 00:16:09,702 there was never any evidence that there 320 00:16:09,802 --> 00:16:11,171 were other personalities there. 321 00:16:11,271 --> 00:16:16,776 So the psychiatrists that were speculating about that 322 00:16:16,876 --> 00:16:19,379 were looking for an explanation for things 323 00:16:19,479 --> 00:16:20,713 that can't be explained. 324 00:16:20,813 --> 00:16:25,385 Then who can argue against multiple personality disorder? 325 00:16:25,485 --> 00:16:29,222 There was never any evidence whatsoever in our relations 326 00:16:29,322 --> 00:16:32,192 with our daughter that there was anything but the personality 327 00:16:32,292 --> 00:16:35,262 that we knew, and we saw her under many circumstances 328 00:16:35,362 --> 00:16:37,130 many different times. 329 00:16:37,230 --> 00:16:40,567 There's just no question that she was not mentally ill. 330 00:16:40,667 --> 00:16:42,069 NEAL HALL: So I think that one of the defense 331 00:16:42,169 --> 00:16:44,337 mechanisms that people have is denial. 332 00:16:44,437 --> 00:16:47,040 And I think it must be very hard for them to believe that, you 333 00:16:47,140 --> 00:16:49,109 know, they were taken into-- 334 00:16:49,209 --> 00:16:52,845 drawn into this whole thing year after year after year and that 335 00:16:52,945 --> 00:16:54,747 it was all delusional. 336 00:16:54,847 --> 00:16:56,916 And you can feel sympathy for the family and friends 337 00:16:57,016 --> 00:16:58,251 and colleagues who were all close to her 338 00:16:58,351 --> 00:16:59,952 and trying to help her and protect her. 339 00:17:00,053 --> 00:17:04,257 And, well, they went through hell themselves. 340 00:17:04,357 --> 00:17:06,693 TILLIE HACK: If we could only find out what really happened, 341 00:17:06,793 --> 00:17:08,961 I think it would be easier on us. 342 00:17:09,062 --> 00:17:10,397 Right now, we just wonder. 343 00:17:10,497 --> 00:17:11,298 What happened? 344 00:17:11,398 --> 00:17:13,300 What happened? 345 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,169 I can see her in front of me. 346 00:17:16,269 --> 00:17:19,639 I hear her laughter, the fun we had. 347 00:17:22,409 --> 00:17:25,378 I-- you know, I still find it hard to believe 348 00:17:25,478 --> 00:17:26,646 she's not there. 349 00:17:30,317 --> 00:17:31,551 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Is it possible 350 00:17:31,651 --> 00:17:34,487 that Cindy James had descended so far into mental illness 351 00:17:34,587 --> 00:17:37,390 that she could inflict terrible pain on herself, up to 352 00:17:37,490 --> 00:17:39,926 and including the point of death? 353 00:17:40,026 --> 00:17:45,098 Cindy's friends and family are convinced it is not possible. 354 00:17:45,198 --> 00:17:47,900 They believe there is someone in Vancouver, Canada, who 355 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,902 is getting away with murder. 356 00:18:14,161 --> 00:18:17,497 December 29, 1980. 357 00:18:17,597 --> 00:18:23,403 State Road 1485 on the outskirts of Houston, Texas. 358 00:18:23,503 --> 00:18:24,771 That sure was a good dinner we had. 359 00:18:24,871 --> 00:18:26,973 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): At around 9:00 PM, Betty Cash, 360 00:18:27,073 --> 00:18:29,909 Vickie Landrum, and Vickie's 7-year-old grandson, 361 00:18:30,009 --> 00:18:32,412 Colby, were returning home after dinner. 362 00:18:32,512 --> 00:18:35,615 Mawmaw, what's that light? 363 00:18:35,715 --> 00:18:36,616 What is that light? 364 00:18:36,716 --> 00:18:37,550 I don't know. 365 00:18:37,650 --> 00:18:38,451 It's awful bright, though. 366 00:18:38,551 --> 00:18:39,752 Is that an airplane? 367 00:18:39,852 --> 00:18:41,754 BETTY CASH: We were just driving along talking, 368 00:18:41,854 --> 00:18:45,692 and all of a sudden we seen this bright light. 369 00:18:45,792 --> 00:18:49,729 We didn't know what it was, but we 370 00:18:49,829 --> 00:18:53,400 knew that there was something that was lighting up the sky. 371 00:18:53,500 --> 00:18:55,802 It seems to be moving closer. 372 00:18:55,902 --> 00:18:57,036 I think you're right, Vickie. 373 00:18:57,136 --> 00:18:58,305 It is. 374 00:18:58,405 --> 00:19:00,006 VICKIE LANDRUM: You could see it through the trees. 375 00:19:00,106 --> 00:19:02,509 You know, you'd lose it, and then you'd see it. 376 00:19:02,609 --> 00:19:04,177 You'd lose it and you'd see it. 377 00:19:04,277 --> 00:19:12,219 And we traveled about close to a mile, I guess, when it was-- 378 00:19:12,319 --> 00:19:13,886 started to get real close. 379 00:19:13,986 --> 00:19:16,088 Then I knew wasn't a plane. 380 00:19:16,189 --> 00:19:17,924 Mawmaw, what is that? 381 00:19:18,024 --> 00:19:19,259 I don't know. I don't know, honey. 382 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:20,159 It's so bright. 383 00:19:20,260 --> 00:19:21,994 I can hardly see to drive. 384 00:19:22,094 --> 00:19:24,397 BETTY CASH: We had began to feel the heat. 385 00:19:24,497 --> 00:19:30,136 And all of a sudden, Vickie screamed for me to stop. 386 00:19:30,237 --> 00:19:34,641 And when I stopped, she went forward, 387 00:19:34,741 --> 00:19:39,078 and her handprint was embedded into the dash of the car. 388 00:19:41,681 --> 00:19:45,818 And I thought, well, I've got to see what this is. 389 00:19:45,918 --> 00:19:49,256 So I walked toward the front of the automobile, 390 00:19:49,356 --> 00:19:53,226 and I stood there looking up to try to figure 391 00:19:53,326 --> 00:19:55,094 out what this object was. 392 00:19:59,832 --> 00:20:04,070 It was a diamond-shaped object, four points. 393 00:20:04,170 --> 00:20:08,541 But the one at the top was rounded and so were the sides. 394 00:20:08,641 --> 00:20:13,580 Then at the bottom, flames were shooting out. 395 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,516 The heat was tremendous. 396 00:20:16,616 --> 00:20:21,888 It just felt like I was burning from the inside out. 397 00:20:21,988 --> 00:20:24,357 Betty, let's get outta here! 398 00:20:24,457 --> 00:20:27,327 BETTY CASH (VOICEOVER): I was horrified. 399 00:20:27,427 --> 00:20:30,563 I was actually afraid really to move. 400 00:20:34,967 --> 00:20:37,169 When I reached for the door handle, 401 00:20:37,270 --> 00:20:39,539 the door handle was so hot I couldn't 402 00:20:39,639 --> 00:20:43,610 even begin to hold on to it. 403 00:20:43,710 --> 00:20:46,979 I was more than scared. 404 00:20:47,079 --> 00:20:48,448 It's moving away. 405 00:20:52,885 --> 00:20:55,388 The only thing I was thinking was, are 406 00:20:55,488 --> 00:20:57,890 were gonna get out of here alive? 407 00:20:57,990 --> 00:21:00,560 [helicopters whirring] 408 00:21:00,660 --> 00:21:01,828 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Just moments 409 00:21:01,928 --> 00:21:04,196 later, a large squadron of helicopters 410 00:21:04,297 --> 00:21:08,167 descended on the area. 411 00:21:08,267 --> 00:21:11,804 VICKIE LANDRUM: They were the large helicopters that 412 00:21:11,904 --> 00:21:13,973 has the double rotors on them. 413 00:21:14,073 --> 00:21:15,742 I counted 22. 414 00:21:15,842 --> 00:21:20,046 And Colby said, there's another one, and I said, that makes 23. 415 00:21:20,146 --> 00:21:24,351 And they were the kind of helicopters 416 00:21:24,451 --> 00:21:28,254 that you just don't see, because I didn't 417 00:21:28,355 --> 00:21:29,789 know what kind they were. 418 00:21:29,889 --> 00:21:35,528 And they, I knew, had belonged to the Army. 419 00:21:35,628 --> 00:21:39,432 [helicopters whirring] 420 00:21:44,904 --> 00:21:47,306 Betty Cash and Vickie Landrum had no idea 421 00:21:47,407 --> 00:21:48,808 the events of that night would plague 422 00:21:48,908 --> 00:21:51,210 them the rest of their lives. 423 00:21:51,310 --> 00:21:53,446 Given the evidence, there seems little doubt that something 424 00:21:53,546 --> 00:21:56,416 incredible happened to Betty, Vickie, and Colby, 425 00:21:56,516 --> 00:21:59,218 something that no one has been able to explain. 426 00:21:59,318 --> 00:22:01,220 For more than 10 years, they've been embroiled 427 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,090 in both a legal battle with the United States government 428 00:22:04,190 --> 00:22:07,059 and a desperate fight against mysterious illnesses 429 00:22:07,159 --> 00:22:09,496 whose symptoms began to appear just six hours 430 00:22:09,596 --> 00:22:12,865 after the bizarre encounter. 431 00:22:12,965 --> 00:22:13,833 Mawmaw! 432 00:22:13,933 --> 00:22:14,734 Mawmaw! 433 00:22:14,834 --> 00:22:16,769 I need a drink of water! 434 00:22:20,272 --> 00:22:23,109 Mawmaw! 435 00:22:23,209 --> 00:22:24,577 Colby? 436 00:22:24,677 --> 00:22:26,613 Mawmaw, I'm sick. 437 00:22:26,713 --> 00:22:27,980 VICKIE LANDRUM (VOICEOVER): At 1 o'clock, 438 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,385 Colby woke me up crying, and he was begging me for water. 439 00:22:32,485 --> 00:22:34,253 Honey, you're burning up. 440 00:22:34,353 --> 00:22:35,688 VICKIE LANDRUM (VOICEOVER): He had a fever, 441 00:22:35,788 --> 00:22:38,458 and he had vomited all over the bed. 442 00:22:38,558 --> 00:22:40,192 I need some more water. 443 00:22:40,292 --> 00:22:44,263 VICKIE LANDRUM (VOICEOVER): And while I was seeing to him, 444 00:22:44,363 --> 00:22:46,265 I got sick. 445 00:22:46,365 --> 00:22:50,269 Finally, though, I got him back to sleep, and I went to sleep. 446 00:22:50,369 --> 00:22:55,174 And the next morning, I didn't dream that we had been hurt. 447 00:22:55,274 --> 00:22:58,978 When I got up, him and me both was yet sick. 448 00:22:59,078 --> 00:23:01,180 [knocking] 449 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,182 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The next morning, Vickie and Colby 450 00:23:03,282 --> 00:23:05,418 were still suffering from nausea and what appeared 451 00:23:05,518 --> 00:23:08,320 to be severe cases of sunburn. 452 00:23:08,421 --> 00:23:11,223 Betty? 453 00:23:11,323 --> 00:23:13,025 Betty, it's Vickie. 454 00:23:13,125 --> 00:23:14,427 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Concerned, Vickie 455 00:23:14,527 --> 00:23:17,430 went to Betty's house to check on her well-being. 456 00:23:20,467 --> 00:23:21,434 Betty? 457 00:23:21,534 --> 00:23:22,702 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): But Vickie was 458 00:23:22,802 --> 00:23:24,504 shocked by Betty's condition. 459 00:23:24,604 --> 00:23:26,506 Her temperature was dangerously high, 460 00:23:26,606 --> 00:23:30,877 and large red welts had appeared on her face and hands. 461 00:23:30,977 --> 00:23:32,311 Water. 462 00:23:32,411 --> 00:23:33,746 Oh, what do you want? 463 00:23:33,846 --> 00:23:35,214 You want some water? 464 00:23:35,314 --> 00:23:38,217 I was so sick. 465 00:23:38,317 --> 00:23:40,853 All I wanted was water. 466 00:23:40,953 --> 00:23:42,655 My head was killing me. 467 00:23:42,755 --> 00:23:46,626 I could not get rid of the headache. 468 00:23:46,726 --> 00:23:49,395 I had an upset stomach. 469 00:23:49,496 --> 00:23:54,333 Just-- I was just sick, I mean completely. 470 00:23:57,804 --> 00:23:59,005 Hi, Betty. 471 00:23:59,105 --> 00:24:00,673 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Over the next four days, 472 00:24:00,773 --> 00:24:02,909 Betty's condition grew more serious. 473 00:24:03,009 --> 00:24:04,310 How long has she been this way? 474 00:24:04,410 --> 00:24:05,978 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Vickie finally convinced 475 00:24:06,078 --> 00:24:07,714 her to see a doctor in Houston. 476 00:24:07,814 --> 00:24:08,915 DOCTOR: Has she been burned? 477 00:24:09,015 --> 00:24:10,483 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): He immediately admitted 478 00:24:10,583 --> 00:24:11,784 Betty to Parkway Hospital. 479 00:24:11,884 --> 00:24:13,553 Do you know if she's been out in the sun much, maybe? 480 00:24:13,653 --> 00:24:14,487 No. 481 00:24:14,587 --> 00:24:15,722 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Records 482 00:24:15,822 --> 00:24:17,590 show that three weeks later, she underwent treatment 483 00:24:17,690 --> 00:24:20,092 for acute radiation poisoning. 484 00:24:20,192 --> 00:24:21,761 What I'd like to do is admit her to the hospital 485 00:24:21,861 --> 00:24:23,129 and run some more tests. 486 00:24:23,229 --> 00:24:25,031 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): During a six-week hospitalization, 487 00:24:25,131 --> 00:24:28,901 Betty lost more than 50% of her hair and patches of skin 488 00:24:29,001 --> 00:24:30,369 on her face. 489 00:24:30,469 --> 00:24:32,171 DOCTOR: And I'll have somebody from admitting come down 490 00:24:32,271 --> 00:24:33,573 and check-- 491 00:24:33,673 --> 00:24:34,774 DR. BRIAN MCLELLAND: There was absolutely no doubt in my mind 492 00:24:34,874 --> 00:24:37,710 that Betty was exposed to high doses of radiation. 493 00:24:37,810 --> 00:24:41,347 As to what the source was, I can't exactly say. 494 00:24:41,447 --> 00:24:43,182 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Dr. Brian McClelland has been 495 00:24:43,282 --> 00:24:45,484 Betty's physician since 1985. 496 00:24:45,585 --> 00:24:46,753 I don't know. 497 00:24:46,853 --> 00:24:49,221 All I know is that she received high doses of radiation. 498 00:24:52,024 --> 00:24:53,392 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): After her release, 499 00:24:53,492 --> 00:24:55,928 Betty continued to suffer side effects-- 500 00:24:56,028 --> 00:24:59,331 extreme swelling of her face and arms, painful headaches, and 501 00:24:59,431 --> 00:25:02,168 a dramatic loss of appetite. 502 00:25:02,268 --> 00:25:04,436 Vickie and Colby had similar symptoms. 503 00:25:04,537 --> 00:25:06,939 However, their conditions were less severe than Betty's. 504 00:25:09,375 --> 00:25:10,643 JOHN SCHUESSLER: Betty Cash called 505 00:25:10,743 --> 00:25:14,046 me approximately six weeks after she got out of the hospital. 506 00:25:14,146 --> 00:25:15,748 Her case was very unusual. 507 00:25:15,848 --> 00:25:16,816 It was intriguing. 508 00:25:16,916 --> 00:25:19,185 It had situations involved that I hadn't 509 00:25:19,285 --> 00:25:21,387 heard about in the Texas area before, 510 00:25:21,487 --> 00:25:25,057 so I naturally became involved. 511 00:25:25,157 --> 00:25:26,425 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): John Schuessler 512 00:25:26,525 --> 00:25:29,629 is an executive for a major aeronautics engineering firm 513 00:25:29,729 --> 00:25:34,500 and is a deputy director of the Mutual UFO Network. 514 00:25:34,601 --> 00:25:36,468 JOHN SCHUESSLER (VOICEOVER): We had done several interviews 515 00:25:36,569 --> 00:25:39,238 with Betty and Vickie, and then we went out to the location 516 00:25:39,338 --> 00:25:40,740 where this happened. 517 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,943 They were very, very clear on where it happened 518 00:25:44,043 --> 00:25:44,844 and how it happened. 519 00:25:44,944 --> 00:25:45,978 Yes, sir. 520 00:25:46,078 --> 00:25:47,914 It came right over those trees right there, sir. 521 00:25:48,014 --> 00:25:50,449 They were able to tell us exactly where along the road 522 00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:53,085 that they stopped, because there were certain markers 523 00:25:53,185 --> 00:25:54,887 that identified the spot. 524 00:25:54,987 --> 00:25:56,956 They were able to point out exactly what they saw, 525 00:25:57,056 --> 00:25:59,592 the object coming down out of the sky over the road 526 00:25:59,692 --> 00:26:01,527 and hovering there. 527 00:26:01,628 --> 00:26:04,163 They were able to point out a spot on the road that 528 00:26:04,263 --> 00:26:06,432 indicated that it had been heated 529 00:26:06,532 --> 00:26:08,635 to an extreme level of heating. 530 00:26:08,735 --> 00:26:13,940 It was burned, and it was very clear to the naked eye. 531 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,842 Several weeks after we went to the spot 532 00:26:15,942 --> 00:26:18,645 and saw this burned area, someone came along, 533 00:26:18,745 --> 00:26:21,480 dug up the road, and hauled it away and replaced it 534 00:26:21,580 --> 00:26:24,016 with new asphalt. Some of the witnesses 535 00:26:24,116 --> 00:26:26,118 that watched this happen said that people brought 536 00:26:26,218 --> 00:26:28,655 in unmarked trucks, dug up the road, 537 00:26:28,755 --> 00:26:31,523 put the material on the trucks, covered it with a tarpaulin, 538 00:26:31,624 --> 00:26:33,392 and drove away. 539 00:26:33,492 --> 00:26:35,728 And what did it do when it hovered over the trees? 540 00:26:35,828 --> 00:26:37,664 JOHN SCHUESSLER: In addition to taking Betty and Vickie's 541 00:26:37,764 --> 00:26:40,700 testimony, we went to every individual living 542 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,534 within five miles of this area. 543 00:26:42,635 --> 00:26:45,337 And at least 10 other people had seen the object, 544 00:26:45,437 --> 00:26:48,240 and seven or eight other people had seen the helicopters. 545 00:26:48,340 --> 00:26:50,743 And their descriptions were all very similar to what 546 00:26:50,843 --> 00:26:51,978 Betty and Vickie described. 547 00:26:54,647 --> 00:26:56,515 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): One eyewitness was Dayton, Texas, 548 00:26:56,615 --> 00:26:59,118 police officer LL Walker. 549 00:26:59,218 --> 00:27:00,953 Walker was in the area on the night 550 00:27:01,053 --> 00:27:04,490 that Betty and Vickie encountered the object. 551 00:27:04,590 --> 00:27:06,525 LL WALKER: My wife Marie and I was returning back 552 00:27:06,625 --> 00:27:09,228 from her mother and dad's, and as we 553 00:27:09,328 --> 00:27:14,166 was coming out of some tree lines, I saw a helicopter. 554 00:27:14,266 --> 00:27:17,536 It was shining a spotlight at the ground. 555 00:27:17,636 --> 00:27:22,274 And then I heard other noise of other helicopters behind it. 556 00:27:22,374 --> 00:27:24,944 And about that time, a helicopter 557 00:27:25,044 --> 00:27:27,246 started sideslipping toward us, with the beam 558 00:27:27,346 --> 00:27:29,348 hitting me in the eyes. 559 00:27:29,448 --> 00:27:35,054 And I stopped the car, because I didn't know what was going on. 560 00:27:35,154 --> 00:27:39,191 The helicopters were military, and they was all flying 561 00:27:39,291 --> 00:27:41,493 fairly low to the ground. 562 00:27:41,593 --> 00:27:44,697 And all of them had search beams on. 563 00:27:44,797 --> 00:27:46,465 I thought maybe there was an airplane down, 564 00:27:46,565 --> 00:27:48,367 but they didn't hesitate. 565 00:27:48,467 --> 00:27:52,404 They just kept on in the same direction they was going, 566 00:27:52,504 --> 00:27:55,241 which would probably intersect the area where Vickie 567 00:27:55,341 --> 00:27:57,043 said that her encounter was. 568 00:27:57,143 --> 00:27:58,945 They was headed in that general direction. 569 00:28:01,413 --> 00:28:03,215 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Convinced that the military was 570 00:28:03,315 --> 00:28:06,618 somehow involved, Betty and Vickie wrote to Texas senators 571 00:28:06,719 --> 00:28:09,688 John Tower and Lloyd Bentsen. 572 00:28:09,789 --> 00:28:10,589 Sen. 573 00:28:10,689 --> 00:28:12,458 Lloyd Bentsen and Sen. 574 00:28:12,558 --> 00:28:17,764 Tower had sent us the reply back that Bergstrom Air Force Base 575 00:28:17,864 --> 00:28:21,367 had been notified and that they had been made well 576 00:28:21,467 --> 00:28:24,203 aware of what had happened to us, 577 00:28:24,303 --> 00:28:27,473 that they would be more than glad to help us in any way. 578 00:28:30,176 --> 00:28:32,544 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): On August 21, 1981, 579 00:28:32,644 --> 00:28:35,848 Betty, Vickie, and Colby arrived at Bergstrom. 580 00:28:35,948 --> 00:28:37,850 Expecting to receive medical help, 581 00:28:37,950 --> 00:28:41,020 they brought overnight bags. 582 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,454 Colby, honey, come on with me. 583 00:28:42,554 --> 00:28:44,156 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): As they entered the room, 584 00:28:44,256 --> 00:28:45,591 Vickie noticed a large map. 585 00:28:45,691 --> 00:28:46,658 Betty. 586 00:28:46,759 --> 00:28:47,894 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The exact spot 587 00:28:47,994 --> 00:28:51,497 where the encounter had occurred was clearly marked. 588 00:28:51,597 --> 00:28:53,132 I understand you're here about an incident that 589 00:28:53,232 --> 00:28:56,068 occurred on 29 December 1980. - Yes. 590 00:28:56,168 --> 00:28:57,804 Can you tell us what happened? 591 00:28:57,904 --> 00:28:59,305 Well, sir, we were coming home from dinner. 592 00:28:59,405 --> 00:29:03,409 And as we were going down this road, we saw this large object. 593 00:29:03,509 --> 00:29:05,277 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): According to Betty and Vickie, 594 00:29:05,377 --> 00:29:08,080 they were questioned for more than two hours. 595 00:29:08,180 --> 00:29:11,317 The interview was recorded by a military stenographer. 596 00:29:11,417 --> 00:29:13,452 It was as big as a water tower, 597 00:29:13,552 --> 00:29:15,454 and it was kind of diamond shaped. 598 00:29:15,554 --> 00:29:16,688 What did you do after you spotted-- 599 00:29:16,789 --> 00:29:18,290 BETTY CASH: It was a deposition they were taking 600 00:29:18,390 --> 00:29:22,428 from each one of us, just general of everything that 601 00:29:22,528 --> 00:29:24,363 had happened to us. 602 00:29:24,463 --> 00:29:28,801 And we were still blistered and had blisters on us. 603 00:29:28,901 --> 00:29:33,672 And at the time, I was wearing a wig because my hair 604 00:29:33,772 --> 00:29:35,741 had already gone. 605 00:29:35,842 --> 00:29:39,912 They wanted me to take my wig off so they could see my head. 606 00:29:40,012 --> 00:29:42,214 About how long a period of time was this? 607 00:29:42,314 --> 00:29:43,850 10 or 12 minutes. 608 00:29:43,950 --> 00:29:45,117 Then what happened? 609 00:29:45,217 --> 00:29:46,218 Well, as I got in the car, then 610 00:29:46,318 --> 00:29:48,387 the helicopters started approaching. 611 00:29:48,487 --> 00:29:49,288 What helicopters? 612 00:29:49,388 --> 00:29:51,190 The military helicopters. 613 00:29:51,290 --> 00:29:52,158 You say military. 614 00:29:52,258 --> 00:29:53,125 Yes, sir. 615 00:29:53,225 --> 00:29:54,326 How do you know they were military? 616 00:29:54,426 --> 00:29:55,862 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The two interviewers 617 00:29:55,962 --> 00:29:58,430 denied that any military or government operation was 618 00:29:58,530 --> 00:30:01,400 conducted on December 29, 1980. 619 00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:03,169 Ladies, what would you like for us to do? 620 00:30:03,269 --> 00:30:04,070 We want help. 621 00:30:04,170 --> 00:30:05,104 We're sick. 622 00:30:05,204 --> 00:30:06,438 What do you want the Air Force to do? 623 00:30:06,538 --> 00:30:08,140 I feel you're partly responsible, 624 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,109 and I would like some help. 625 00:30:10,209 --> 00:30:11,777 None of the information that I have here 626 00:30:11,878 --> 00:30:14,413 indicates that the Air Force nor the government 627 00:30:14,513 --> 00:30:17,984 is responsible for any of the claims that you've made. 628 00:30:18,084 --> 00:30:18,951 However, if you'd like-- 629 00:30:19,051 --> 00:30:20,086 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The women 630 00:30:20,186 --> 00:30:21,287 were told that they were entitled to file a claim 631 00:30:21,387 --> 00:30:24,356 and that the Air Force would review the case. 632 00:30:24,456 --> 00:30:26,492 Get them to your lawyers, and get them back to us. 633 00:30:26,592 --> 00:30:27,894 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Four weeks 634 00:30:27,994 --> 00:30:33,265 later, Betty and Vickie's claim for medical damages was denied. 635 00:30:33,365 --> 00:30:35,801 Come on, Colby. 636 00:30:35,902 --> 00:30:37,236 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In 1982, 637 00:30:37,336 --> 00:30:40,172 Betty and Vickie filed a lawsuit against the United States 638 00:30:40,272 --> 00:30:41,673 government. 639 00:30:41,773 --> 00:30:44,276 The case was dismissed by a federal judge 640 00:30:44,376 --> 00:30:47,113 for lack of evidence. 641 00:30:47,213 --> 00:30:49,882 I thought there was no justice left in the United States 642 00:30:49,982 --> 00:30:51,250 at all. 643 00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:55,721 And to think that we had a federal judge 644 00:30:55,821 --> 00:30:59,558 that would not even give us a chance to speak up 645 00:30:59,658 --> 00:31:00,459 or to be heard. 646 00:31:05,597 --> 00:31:07,566 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): What did Betty Cash, Vickie Landrum, 647 00:31:07,666 --> 00:31:10,669 and Colby Landrum see in the Texas sky on that winter 648 00:31:10,769 --> 00:31:14,907 night over 10 years ago? 649 00:31:15,007 --> 00:31:16,642 JOHN SCHUESSLER: There are two possible explanations 650 00:31:16,742 --> 00:31:18,310 in this case. 651 00:31:18,410 --> 00:31:20,679 One is it was an experiment craft of some kind 652 00:31:20,779 --> 00:31:22,648 by probably our government. 653 00:31:22,748 --> 00:31:25,985 The other, it was an unidentified flying object, 654 00:31:26,085 --> 00:31:28,254 possibly extraterrestrial. 655 00:31:28,354 --> 00:31:30,889 I don't believe in the little green men. 656 00:31:30,990 --> 00:31:36,062 And it had to be an object-- 657 00:31:36,162 --> 00:31:37,663 it could have been a spacecraft-- 658 00:31:37,763 --> 00:31:39,398 that the government was carrying. 659 00:31:39,498 --> 00:31:41,367 But our government was carrying it. 660 00:31:44,270 --> 00:31:46,272 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Today, Betty Cash, Vickie Landrum, 661 00:31:46,372 --> 00:31:48,540 and Colby Landrum continue to battle 662 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,509 illnesses which they believe a result 663 00:31:50,609 --> 00:31:53,279 of massive radiation exposure. 664 00:31:53,379 --> 00:31:56,715 Betty has been diagnosed with several types of cancer. 665 00:31:56,815 --> 00:32:00,052 She, Vickie, and Colby all have far below normal white blood 666 00:32:00,152 --> 00:32:01,387 cell counts. 667 00:32:01,487 --> 00:32:03,889 Their immune systems now have difficulty fighting 668 00:32:03,990 --> 00:32:07,926 off even minor infections. 669 00:32:08,027 --> 00:32:11,097 The child especially, he's going to have to make decisions 670 00:32:11,197 --> 00:32:13,565 about having children, about what 671 00:32:13,665 --> 00:32:15,434 he's going to do with his life. 672 00:32:15,534 --> 00:32:17,236 And how long is he going to live? 673 00:32:17,336 --> 00:32:18,971 What's going to happen to him? 674 00:32:19,071 --> 00:32:21,007 For Betty, she's just entering into the risk 675 00:32:21,107 --> 00:32:23,375 period for other cancers or other problems. 676 00:32:23,475 --> 00:32:25,277 And Vickie is, too. 677 00:32:25,377 --> 00:32:27,813 Vickie's having visual problems, and there 678 00:32:27,913 --> 00:32:29,915 are lots of suggestions that that may be 679 00:32:30,016 --> 00:32:32,184 related to radiation as well. 680 00:32:32,284 --> 00:32:33,519 But it depends on the kind of exposure, 681 00:32:33,619 --> 00:32:35,221 and someone needs to tell us what the exposure 682 00:32:35,321 --> 00:32:38,057 was so we can figure it out. 683 00:32:38,157 --> 00:32:41,793 If it's a top secret object that's protecting the United 684 00:32:41,893 --> 00:32:44,296 States, then I could say-- 685 00:32:44,396 --> 00:32:46,598 I could forgive them for that. 686 00:32:46,698 --> 00:32:54,673 But at least they owe us to tell us exactly why we were burned 687 00:32:54,773 --> 00:32:58,544 and what type of radiation that we were exposed to 688 00:32:58,644 --> 00:32:59,511 and how much. 689 00:33:04,283 --> 00:33:06,685 The United States Air Force declined our invitation to be 690 00:33:06,785 --> 00:33:08,687 interviewed for this story. 691 00:33:08,787 --> 00:33:11,157 Their official position is that no military or government 692 00:33:11,257 --> 00:33:15,861 operation occurred near Dayton, Texas, on December 29, 1980. 693 00:33:15,961 --> 00:33:18,730 Betty Cash and Vickie Landrum disagree. 694 00:33:18,830 --> 00:33:21,167 They believe that the military knows exactly what happened 695 00:33:21,267 --> 00:33:22,968 that night and hope that someone will 696 00:33:23,069 --> 00:33:24,536 come forward with information. 697 00:33:37,149 --> 00:33:38,550 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): When we return, 698 00:33:38,650 --> 00:33:40,486 the legend of Wild West outlaws Butch 699 00:33:40,586 --> 00:33:42,754 Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. 700 00:33:42,854 --> 00:33:45,691 Did they really die in a shootout in South America? 701 00:33:56,635 --> 00:34:00,406 Meet Robert LeRoy Parker and Harry Alonzo Longabaugh. 702 00:34:00,506 --> 00:34:04,410 In the late 1800s, these two men became outlaw legends as Butch 703 00:34:04,510 --> 00:34:06,312 Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. 704 00:34:11,617 --> 00:34:13,485 Decades later, they were immortalized 705 00:34:13,585 --> 00:34:15,387 in a movie about their lives starring 706 00:34:15,487 --> 00:34:18,023 Paul Newman and Robert Redford. 707 00:34:18,124 --> 00:34:21,059 The 1969 fact-based film chronicles 708 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,663 the adventurous final days of the famed outlaws. 709 00:34:32,138 --> 00:34:34,673 The movie, like history, has Butch and Sundance 710 00:34:34,773 --> 00:34:37,776 meeting their demise in a fiery gun battle in South America. 711 00:34:41,780 --> 00:34:44,150 But some experts believe that Hollywood 712 00:34:44,250 --> 00:34:46,118 and history may be wrong. 713 00:34:52,391 --> 00:34:54,960 Some say that Jesse James sang at his own funeral 714 00:34:55,060 --> 00:34:58,397 and fled to South America, that Billy the Kid was not 715 00:34:58,497 --> 00:35:00,132 gunned down by Pat Garrett and lived 716 00:35:00,232 --> 00:35:03,068 to the ripe old age of 92. 717 00:35:03,169 --> 00:35:04,570 The folklore of the American West 718 00:35:04,670 --> 00:35:06,605 is full of stories of famous outlaws 719 00:35:06,705 --> 00:35:09,575 who somehow outlived their own deaths. 720 00:35:09,675 --> 00:35:12,744 But in the case of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, 721 00:35:12,844 --> 00:35:14,913 there is compelling evidence that at least one 722 00:35:15,013 --> 00:35:18,116 of the infamous criminals returned to the United States 723 00:35:18,217 --> 00:35:19,485 and died of natural causes. 724 00:35:21,052 --> 00:35:21,887 Let's do this run. 725 00:35:21,987 --> 00:35:22,988 We're gonna run over to that feed. 726 00:35:23,088 --> 00:35:24,390 Yes, sir. 727 00:35:24,490 --> 00:35:27,092 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Spokane, Washington, 1910. 728 00:35:27,193 --> 00:35:29,728 Two years after Butch and Sundance were reportedly 729 00:35:29,828 --> 00:35:32,964 gunned down, a mysterious man named William Thaddeus 730 00:35:33,064 --> 00:35:36,067 Phillips arrived in Spokane. 731 00:35:36,168 --> 00:35:37,336 How's it going, Roy? 732 00:35:37,436 --> 00:35:38,704 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Phillips eventually opened 733 00:35:38,804 --> 00:35:40,372 a machine shop which became a success, 734 00:35:40,472 --> 00:35:45,076 earning him the reputation as a prominent businessman. 735 00:35:45,177 --> 00:35:50,015 But oddly, William Phillips was a man without a past. 736 00:35:50,115 --> 00:35:52,884 JAMES DULLENTY: The first definitive record 737 00:35:52,984 --> 00:35:55,821 of William Phillips was his marriage 738 00:35:55,921 --> 00:35:58,924 certificate dated May 14, 1908. 739 00:35:59,024 --> 00:36:03,128 There is no other previous record of William Phillips. 740 00:36:03,229 --> 00:36:07,065 In the 1920s, about 1922, the first reports 741 00:36:07,165 --> 00:36:09,067 began circulating in the West that Butch 742 00:36:09,167 --> 00:36:11,570 Cassidy had returned. 743 00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:15,707 People began to say that Butch Cassidy was William Phillips. 744 00:36:15,807 --> 00:36:17,142 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): There does indeed 745 00:36:17,243 --> 00:36:20,011 seem to be an eerie resemblance between William Thaddeus 746 00:36:20,111 --> 00:36:22,481 Phillips and George "Butch" Cassidy. 747 00:36:22,581 --> 00:36:24,916 But if Phillips was Cassidy, then how did 748 00:36:25,016 --> 00:36:26,652 the outlaw escape from Bolivia? 749 00:36:31,022 --> 00:36:33,992 [speaking spanish] 750 00:36:34,092 --> 00:36:35,827 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): According to some historians, 751 00:36:35,927 --> 00:36:38,630 the story of Butch and Sundance's demise in Bolivia 752 00:36:38,730 --> 00:36:42,301 has been attributed to one man, Percy Seibert. 753 00:36:42,401 --> 00:36:46,572 [speaking spanish] 754 00:36:49,408 --> 00:36:50,542 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Seibert 755 00:36:50,642 --> 00:36:52,611 had worked with the outlaws at a tin mine in Bolivia 756 00:36:52,711 --> 00:36:56,315 and had become friends with them. 757 00:36:56,415 --> 00:36:58,284 He allegedly identified them as the two 758 00:36:58,384 --> 00:37:00,051 men killed in the shootout. 759 00:37:00,151 --> 00:37:03,188 [speaking spanish] 760 00:37:06,057 --> 00:37:09,027 LARRY POINTER: I believe that Percy told the story of Butch 761 00:37:09,127 --> 00:37:12,264 Cassidy and the Sundance Kid's death in Bolivia 762 00:37:12,364 --> 00:37:16,268 to pay back what he felt was a debt of loyalty and friendship, 763 00:37:16,368 --> 00:37:21,006 to allow these outlaws to begin a life under amnesty 764 00:37:21,106 --> 00:37:25,577 without a past, to bury the legend of Butch Cassidy 765 00:37:25,677 --> 00:37:26,778 and the Sundance Kid forever. 766 00:37:29,114 --> 00:37:30,416 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Larry Pointer 767 00:37:30,516 --> 00:37:33,452 is convinced that Butch Cassidy assumed the identity of William 768 00:37:33,552 --> 00:37:36,154 Phillips and that, as Phillips, he even returned 769 00:37:36,254 --> 00:37:39,224 to the mountains of Wyoming, the same territory 770 00:37:39,325 --> 00:37:44,396 that Butch Cassidy and his outlaw gang had once roamed. 771 00:37:44,496 --> 00:37:47,032 JAMES DULLENTY: We know the man who went with Phillips 772 00:37:47,132 --> 00:37:49,134 to Wyoming in 1933. 773 00:37:49,234 --> 00:37:52,471 This man died recently, but we have interviewed him. 774 00:37:52,571 --> 00:37:55,407 He was there all summer with Phillips. 775 00:37:55,507 --> 00:37:58,877 And he met all the old timers that Phillips met. 776 00:37:58,977 --> 00:38:02,080 And in almost every case, these old timers 777 00:38:02,180 --> 00:38:04,049 accepted Phillips as Cassidy. 778 00:38:04,149 --> 00:38:08,787 Well, old timers' stories are always the most interesting 779 00:38:08,887 --> 00:38:09,955 and the least reliable. 780 00:38:10,055 --> 00:38:11,289 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Author Dan 781 00:38:11,390 --> 00:38:14,159 Buck has researched the life and death of Butch Cassidy. 782 00:38:14,259 --> 00:38:16,027 He is convinced that William Phillips 783 00:38:16,127 --> 00:38:19,365 was merely an imposter. 784 00:38:19,465 --> 00:38:22,033 DAN BUCK: The William Phillips story is 785 00:38:22,133 --> 00:38:23,969 chock full of old timer tales. 786 00:38:24,069 --> 00:38:26,237 People would claim they were good friends with Cassidy 787 00:38:26,338 --> 00:38:28,139 and knew Phillips was Cassidy. 788 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,542 And usually it's when asked by someone, 789 00:38:30,642 --> 00:38:32,277 when prompted by someone. 790 00:38:32,378 --> 00:38:34,946 Well, you were a good friend of Butch Cassidy's, weren't you? 791 00:38:35,046 --> 00:38:36,515 And of course, the answer is yes. 792 00:38:36,615 --> 00:38:39,184 Who wants to say no? 793 00:38:39,284 --> 00:38:40,552 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In Wyoming, 794 00:38:40,652 --> 00:38:45,357 Phillips arranged to meet a woman named Mary Boyd Rhodes. 795 00:38:45,457 --> 00:38:49,127 In 1934, Mary and her 16-year-old granddaughter Ione 796 00:38:49,227 --> 00:38:54,232 rode out to Phillips' campsite in the Wind River Mountains. 797 00:38:54,332 --> 00:38:55,601 IONE MANNING: The man that my grandmother 798 00:38:55,701 --> 00:38:59,971 met that day was going by the name of William Phillips. 799 00:39:00,071 --> 00:39:05,076 And she knew him by the name of LeRoy George Parker, 800 00:39:05,176 --> 00:39:07,078 who is known as Butch Cassidy. 801 00:39:10,616 --> 00:39:11,850 Mary Boyd. 802 00:39:11,950 --> 00:39:13,852 IONE MANNING (VOICEOVER): He recognized her immediately, 803 00:39:13,952 --> 00:39:15,286 and she recognized him. 804 00:39:15,387 --> 00:39:16,455 Oh, George Parker. 805 00:39:19,691 --> 00:39:22,327 IONE MANNING: I sensed that they had a relationship that I 806 00:39:22,428 --> 00:39:25,330 had never known much about. 807 00:39:25,431 --> 00:39:28,366 So my grandmother had finally told me that he 808 00:39:28,467 --> 00:39:30,802 was her childhood sweetheart. 809 00:39:33,805 --> 00:39:35,073 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Three years 810 00:39:35,173 --> 00:39:37,843 after his meeting with Mary Boyd Rhodes in Wyoming, William 811 00:39:37,943 --> 00:39:40,512 Phillips died of cancer. 812 00:39:40,612 --> 00:39:42,581 But shortly before his death, Phillips 813 00:39:42,681 --> 00:39:44,650 mailed this ring to Mary. 814 00:39:44,750 --> 00:39:47,853 It was engraved "George C. and Mary B." 815 00:39:51,356 --> 00:39:54,059 I believe William Phillips pretended to be Butch Cassidy 816 00:39:54,159 --> 00:39:55,961 because he was having fun. 817 00:39:56,061 --> 00:39:57,328 He traveled out to the West. 818 00:39:57,429 --> 00:39:59,230 He met some people. 819 00:39:59,330 --> 00:40:01,366 He probably got some free beers. 820 00:40:01,467 --> 00:40:04,470 He certainly got a lot of adventures out of it. 821 00:40:04,570 --> 00:40:08,173 He definitely looked like Butch Cassidy. 822 00:40:08,273 --> 00:40:11,242 But some people have recently done some photo comparisons 823 00:40:11,342 --> 00:40:16,247 of the two and established that they have different heads 824 00:40:16,347 --> 00:40:17,649 and different faces. 825 00:40:17,749 --> 00:40:20,652 Cassidy basically had small features on a big head 826 00:40:20,752 --> 00:40:22,287 with a lantern jaw. 827 00:40:22,387 --> 00:40:25,757 And Phillips had more normal features with a more or less 828 00:40:25,857 --> 00:40:31,697 pointed chin, and his head was basically an inch or more 829 00:40:31,797 --> 00:40:33,732 lower than Butch Cassidy's. 830 00:40:36,334 --> 00:40:38,036 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Several other clues, however, 831 00:40:38,136 --> 00:40:41,306 suggest that Butch and Phillips were one and the same man. 832 00:40:44,175 --> 00:40:46,377 William Phillips wrote an unpublished manuscript 833 00:40:46,478 --> 00:40:50,248 entitled "A Bandit Invincible: The Story of Butch Cassidy." 834 00:40:50,348 --> 00:40:53,318 It contained specific details about Cassidy's outlaw 835 00:40:53,418 --> 00:40:56,321 adventures. 836 00:40:56,421 --> 00:40:58,557 JAMES DULLENTY: Well, there's material in that manuscript 837 00:40:58,657 --> 00:41:02,127 that no one else knew, that had never been published. 838 00:41:02,227 --> 00:41:05,997 Either the man who wrote it had to have intimate knowledge 839 00:41:06,097 --> 00:41:09,134 of Cassidy, or he was Cassidy. 840 00:41:11,102 --> 00:41:12,337 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Phillips owned 841 00:41:12,437 --> 00:41:14,573 this six-shot Colt revolver. 842 00:41:14,673 --> 00:41:19,711 Carved into the pistol grip is a unique brand. 843 00:41:19,811 --> 00:41:21,580 LARRY POINTER: That brand was the reverse E 844 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,683 box E. To most people in Spokane, 845 00:41:24,783 --> 00:41:25,917 that would be meaningless. 846 00:41:26,017 --> 00:41:27,485 But to a researcher from Wyoming, 847 00:41:27,586 --> 00:41:29,588 that was exciting, because that was Butch 848 00:41:29,688 --> 00:41:32,758 Cassidy's brand in the 1890s. 849 00:41:32,858 --> 00:41:34,059 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Another piece 850 00:41:34,159 --> 00:41:35,827 of evidence that seems to connect the two 851 00:41:35,927 --> 00:41:40,065 men is their handwriting. 852 00:41:40,165 --> 00:41:43,535 "Unsolved Mysteries" contacted certified graphologist Sheila 853 00:41:43,635 --> 00:41:45,804 Lowe, who has been used as an expert witness 854 00:41:45,904 --> 00:41:48,907 by the California judicial court system. 855 00:41:49,007 --> 00:41:51,409 Sheila compared five handwritten letters, 856 00:41:51,509 --> 00:41:53,712 four penned by Butch Cassidy, the other 857 00:41:53,812 --> 00:41:55,647 written by William Phillips. 858 00:41:55,747 --> 00:41:57,749 She concluded that all five letters 859 00:41:57,849 --> 00:42:01,052 are written by the same man. 860 00:42:01,152 --> 00:42:02,754 SHEILA LOWE: I found that some of the letter forms 861 00:42:02,854 --> 00:42:04,255 were identical. 862 00:42:04,355 --> 00:42:07,125 And especially when I laid one transparency over the other, 863 00:42:07,225 --> 00:42:08,359 they were-- 864 00:42:08,459 --> 00:42:10,996 it was as if they were written at the same moment, 865 00:42:11,096 --> 00:42:11,897 they were so similar. 866 00:42:14,666 --> 00:42:19,638 I believe that, without doubt, the man known to Wyoming 867 00:42:19,738 --> 00:42:23,508 residents in the 1890s as George "Butch" Cassidy 868 00:42:23,609 --> 00:42:29,581 was William T. Phillips who died in Spokane in 1937. 869 00:42:29,681 --> 00:42:30,816 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Was William 870 00:42:30,916 --> 00:42:33,284 Phillips indeed Butch Cassidy? 871 00:42:33,384 --> 00:42:35,553 If so, then what became of his famed partner, 872 00:42:35,654 --> 00:42:37,623 the Sundance Kid? 873 00:42:37,723 --> 00:42:40,592 There are some who believe that he, too, returned to the US 874 00:42:40,692 --> 00:42:42,193 and died of old age. 875 00:42:46,632 --> 00:42:48,634 There is perhaps little chance that this mystery 876 00:42:48,734 --> 00:42:50,435 will ever be solved. 877 00:42:50,535 --> 00:42:52,437 But one thing is certain. 878 00:42:52,537 --> 00:42:54,172 Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid 879 00:42:54,272 --> 00:42:58,276 were legends destined to live long past their own deaths, 880 00:42:58,376 --> 00:43:00,879 regardless of when or where that may have been. 881 00:43:03,849 --> 00:43:05,784 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Next, a woman's heartwarming search 882 00:43:05,884 --> 00:43:07,585 for the brothers and sister she hasn't 883 00:43:07,686 --> 00:43:09,454 seen in more than 20 years. 884 00:43:21,466 --> 00:43:25,036 Lakewood, Colorado, 1960. 885 00:43:25,136 --> 00:43:27,906 Another day begins for the Smith family. 886 00:43:28,006 --> 00:43:29,841 Once again, five-year-old Aleatha 887 00:43:29,941 --> 00:43:33,144 is left alone to care for her younger brothers and sister. 888 00:43:33,244 --> 00:43:34,445 Wake up, Aleatha. 889 00:43:34,545 --> 00:43:36,748 We're hungry. 890 00:43:36,848 --> 00:43:39,017 Is Mommy and Daddy home? 891 00:43:39,117 --> 00:43:40,652 BOY: No. 892 00:43:40,752 --> 00:43:45,791 We'd wake up in the morning and be alone. 893 00:43:45,891 --> 00:43:49,227 And Richard and I would go in and get 894 00:43:49,327 --> 00:43:51,730 Marty and Noreen out of bed. 895 00:43:51,830 --> 00:43:59,004 Richard was 4, Marty was around 3, and Noreen was just about 2. 896 00:43:59,104 --> 00:44:04,109 Sometimes, she'd halfway fall, but we got her out. 897 00:44:04,209 --> 00:44:07,378 I'd go in the kitchen, get the bread out 898 00:44:07,478 --> 00:44:11,549 and put it in the toaster, put peanut butter on it. 899 00:44:11,649 --> 00:44:12,583 And that was breakfast. 900 00:44:12,684 --> 00:44:15,453 Marty, stop sucking your thumb. 901 00:44:15,553 --> 00:44:19,457 ALEATHA EVERTZ (VOICEOVER): I remember giving Noreen bottles. 902 00:44:19,557 --> 00:44:26,031 I remember asking Marty to stop sucking his thumb. 903 00:44:26,131 --> 00:44:27,598 It was empty. 904 00:44:27,699 --> 00:44:30,301 We were afraid. I know I was. 905 00:44:35,907 --> 00:44:37,275 Aleatha Smith's parents were married 906 00:44:37,375 --> 00:44:39,745 as teenagers, still unprepared for the challenges 907 00:44:39,845 --> 00:44:41,479 of raising a family. 908 00:44:41,579 --> 00:44:44,515 Sadly, both were often absent from the home. 909 00:44:44,615 --> 00:44:47,585 Five-year-old Aleatha assumed the role of mother, father, 910 00:44:47,685 --> 00:44:49,955 and protector for her brothers, Richard and Marty, 911 00:44:50,055 --> 00:44:51,957 and her sister, Noreen. 912 00:44:52,057 --> 00:44:53,558 When their parents separated, the children 913 00:44:53,658 --> 00:44:56,294 were placed in the state's foster care system. . 914 00:44:59,397 --> 00:45:01,566 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): July 1960. 915 00:45:01,666 --> 00:45:04,202 The Smith children went to live with foster parents 916 00:45:04,302 --> 00:45:06,537 Frank and Mary Anne Wiley. 917 00:45:06,637 --> 00:45:08,439 For the first time, they knew the comfort 918 00:45:08,539 --> 00:45:10,942 and security of a stable home. 919 00:45:11,042 --> 00:45:12,643 All right, this is the kids. 920 00:45:12,744 --> 00:45:14,846 Hi, guys. 921 00:45:14,946 --> 00:45:17,582 WOMAN: This is Noreen and Aleatha. 922 00:45:17,682 --> 00:45:19,617 MARY ANNE WILEY: They were cure little kids. 923 00:45:19,717 --> 00:45:22,587 Little Noreen, you know, just a baby. 924 00:45:22,687 --> 00:45:24,856 Marty was mild mannered. 925 00:45:24,956 --> 00:45:28,927 Richard was a little more of a free spirit. 926 00:45:29,027 --> 00:45:33,131 And Aleatha was just a sweet girl. 927 00:45:33,231 --> 00:45:35,100 They were nice little kids to have. 928 00:45:39,304 --> 00:45:41,139 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The Wileys' small farm opened up 929 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,909 a whole new world for the children, particularly 930 00:45:44,009 --> 00:45:46,878 Aleatha, who got her first real taste of childhood. 931 00:45:50,415 --> 00:45:52,717 ALEATHA EVERTZ: We played a lot outdoors. 932 00:45:52,818 --> 00:45:54,252 They had farm animals. 933 00:45:54,352 --> 00:45:55,720 We'd feed them or gather eggs. 934 00:45:59,157 --> 00:46:03,394 Living at the Wileys was warm and caring. 935 00:46:06,697 --> 00:46:10,368 She took care of the meals and the clothes, 936 00:46:10,468 --> 00:46:14,505 and that felt good and secure. 937 00:46:14,605 --> 00:46:15,440 Right up there. 938 00:46:15,540 --> 00:46:16,908 - Right up here? - Mm-hmm. 939 00:46:17,008 --> 00:46:17,876 OK. 940 00:46:17,976 --> 00:46:21,212 [phone rings] 941 00:46:21,312 --> 00:46:22,580 Hello? 942 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,916 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In December 1962, the dream ended. 943 00:46:25,016 --> 00:46:25,984 Yes? 944 00:46:26,084 --> 00:46:27,285 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Aleatha's father 945 00:46:27,385 --> 00:46:29,087 had arranged to take the children back for Christmas. 946 00:46:29,187 --> 00:46:30,421 Well, I really don't think this 947 00:46:30,521 --> 00:46:33,691 is a very good time for the kids to have to go with you. 948 00:46:33,791 --> 00:46:36,161 MARY ANNE WILEY: I told him that I felt that they should be 949 00:46:36,261 --> 00:46:38,997 able to have their Christmas wherever they had it planned, 950 00:46:39,097 --> 00:46:40,731 that disrupting them at that point 951 00:46:40,832 --> 00:46:43,068 was going to be difficult for them. 952 00:46:43,168 --> 00:46:47,105 And so they did agree to let us have our Christmas morning 953 00:46:47,205 --> 00:46:48,106 and our Christmas dinner. 954 00:46:48,206 --> 00:46:49,807 And then they would come after that 955 00:46:49,908 --> 00:46:54,545 and take the children over there, which they did. 956 00:46:54,645 --> 00:46:56,247 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Regrettably, the children 957 00:46:56,347 --> 00:46:59,450 found life with their father unchanged. 958 00:46:59,550 --> 00:47:01,219 Aleatha was once again left to care 959 00:47:01,319 --> 00:47:03,354 for her brothers and sister. 960 00:47:03,454 --> 00:47:05,223 [knocking] 961 00:47:05,323 --> 00:47:07,625 But the situation did not go unnoticed. 962 00:47:16,601 --> 00:47:18,303 Hi, honey. ALEATHA: Hi. 963 00:47:18,403 --> 00:47:19,237 Uh, is your mommy home? 964 00:47:19,337 --> 00:47:20,571 ALEATHA: No. 965 00:47:20,671 --> 00:47:21,539 How about your daddy? 966 00:47:21,639 --> 00:47:22,740 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Concerned 967 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,375 neighbors had alerted the police to the dilemma 968 00:47:24,475 --> 00:47:27,012 of the Smith children. 969 00:47:27,112 --> 00:47:29,047 They were once again taken from their home 970 00:47:29,147 --> 00:47:32,183 and returned to the foster care system. 971 00:47:32,283 --> 00:47:34,685 Eventually, the children were placed with separate families 972 00:47:34,785 --> 00:47:37,122 and lost touch with one another. 973 00:47:37,222 --> 00:47:38,957 Aleatha was shuttled from foster home 974 00:47:39,057 --> 00:47:42,327 to foster home until, four years later, she was sent 975 00:47:42,427 --> 00:47:43,594 back to live with the Wileys. 976 00:47:47,498 --> 00:47:50,001 MARY ANNE WILEY: I remember it like it was yesterday. 977 00:47:50,101 --> 00:47:52,270 I received a phone call from social services, 978 00:47:52,370 --> 00:47:55,306 and she asked me if I remembered Aleatha Smith. 979 00:47:55,406 --> 00:47:57,342 And I said, I sure do. 980 00:47:57,442 --> 00:48:00,912 And she said, how would you like to have her back? 981 00:48:01,012 --> 00:48:02,747 And I said yes. 982 00:48:02,847 --> 00:48:06,417 In a matter of 40 minutes, she was walking in the front door. 983 00:48:09,687 --> 00:48:14,659 But it took her a while to loosen up. 984 00:48:14,759 --> 00:48:17,728 And it was-- you know, I think I expected her 985 00:48:17,828 --> 00:48:21,199 to be all warm and wonderful. 986 00:48:21,299 --> 00:48:23,935 And she had had a lot of bad times, 987 00:48:24,035 --> 00:48:25,270 and it was going to take a while. 988 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,308 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Aleatha's years 989 00:48:30,408 --> 00:48:32,010 in foster care had left her a bitter, 990 00:48:32,110 --> 00:48:34,545 temperamental adolescent. 991 00:48:34,645 --> 00:48:36,781 She longed to find her natural parents 992 00:48:36,881 --> 00:48:38,716 and eventually ran away from the Wileys. 993 00:48:43,521 --> 00:48:47,258 ALEATHA EVERTZ (VOICEOVER): I had saved my allowances, 994 00:48:47,358 --> 00:48:48,759 and I got-- 995 00:48:48,859 --> 00:48:51,796 I believe it was $21. 996 00:48:51,896 --> 00:48:58,836 My plan was to go to Oklahoma, Sand Springs, Oklahoma, 997 00:48:58,936 --> 00:49:01,206 to find my parents. 998 00:49:01,306 --> 00:49:04,709 I had an idea that my grandmother lived there. 999 00:49:10,115 --> 00:49:14,252 With my allowance money, I bought my ticket 1000 00:49:14,352 --> 00:49:17,755 for the bus trip to Oklahoma. 1001 00:49:17,855 --> 00:49:23,428 I remember while I was riding along flashing back on memories 1002 00:49:23,528 --> 00:49:24,762 of when I was little. 1003 00:49:24,862 --> 00:49:29,767 And that's all I thought about, was getting there. 1004 00:49:32,637 --> 00:49:33,871 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Aleatha 1005 00:49:33,971 --> 00:49:38,776 journeyed more than 600 miles to Sand Springs, Oklahoma. 1006 00:49:38,876 --> 00:49:41,246 Alone with nowhere else to turn, she sought 1007 00:49:41,346 --> 00:49:44,849 refuge in a local church. 1008 00:49:44,949 --> 00:49:47,052 ALEATHA EVERTZ: I went to a church 1009 00:49:47,152 --> 00:49:51,556 and talked to a minister. 1010 00:49:51,656 --> 00:49:56,661 He agreed to take me around, and we'd drive to try to find 1011 00:49:56,761 --> 00:49:59,964 this farm that I remembered. 1012 00:50:00,065 --> 00:50:02,900 Do you remember what the house looked like? 1013 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,336 I think it was white or gray. 1014 00:50:05,436 --> 00:50:06,804 MINISTER: White or gray. 1015 00:50:06,904 --> 00:50:08,005 Anything else? 1016 00:50:08,106 --> 00:50:09,640 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Aleatha and the minister 1017 00:50:09,740 --> 00:50:11,642 spent several hours searching for her grandmother's farm-- 1018 00:50:11,742 --> 00:50:12,877 Was it like that one there? 1019 00:50:12,977 --> 00:50:14,212 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): --to no avail. 1020 00:50:14,312 --> 00:50:16,181 It was bigger. 1021 00:50:16,281 --> 00:50:17,715 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Late that afternoon, 1022 00:50:17,815 --> 00:50:20,918 he dropped Aleatha off at the local police station. 1023 00:50:21,018 --> 00:50:23,188 They identified her as a runaway and returned her 1024 00:50:23,288 --> 00:50:26,957 to the foster care system once again. 1025 00:50:27,058 --> 00:50:29,327 It would be years before Aleatha was reunited 1026 00:50:29,427 --> 00:50:31,162 with her natural parents. 1027 00:50:31,262 --> 00:50:33,498 She never did find her brothers, Richard and Marty, 1028 00:50:33,598 --> 00:50:35,166 or her sister, Noreen. 1029 00:50:38,269 --> 00:50:42,840 It's like reading a good book and you get a phone call 1030 00:50:42,940 --> 00:50:45,476 you have to rush off to work. 1031 00:50:45,576 --> 00:50:47,745 You have to put that book down. 1032 00:50:47,845 --> 00:50:52,049 Most people know they can come back to that book. 1033 00:50:52,150 --> 00:50:53,184 I've never gone back. 1034 00:50:53,284 --> 00:50:54,085 Now, I want to know. 1035 00:50:57,155 --> 00:50:58,523 I want to know. 1036 00:51:18,909 --> 00:51:20,945 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): On the next "Unsolved Mysteries," 1037 00:51:21,045 --> 00:51:23,914 in 1987, Michael Francke was hired to reform 1038 00:51:24,014 --> 00:51:25,950 the prison system in Oregon. 1039 00:51:26,050 --> 00:51:28,286 Two years later, he was found stabbed to death 1040 00:51:28,386 --> 00:51:30,155 just outside his office. 1041 00:51:30,255 --> 00:51:34,325 His family believes he was assassinated. 1042 00:51:34,425 --> 00:51:37,061 Chicago, the 1930s. 1043 00:51:37,162 --> 00:51:39,964 Eliot Ness, a 26-year-old Treasury agent, 1044 00:51:40,064 --> 00:51:43,067 organized the immortal crime busting unit the Untouchables 1045 00:51:43,168 --> 00:51:46,337 and helped bring down the empire of Al Capone. 1046 00:51:46,437 --> 00:51:49,207 Later, in Cleveland, Ohio, Eliot Ness finally 1047 00:51:49,307 --> 00:51:51,176 encountered the one criminal he could not 1048 00:51:51,276 --> 00:51:54,412 bring to justice, a serial killer who may have left 1049 00:51:54,512 --> 00:51:58,183 behind more than 30 victims. 1050 00:51:58,283 --> 00:52:00,851 Join me next time for this special segment 1051 00:52:00,951 --> 00:52:03,521 as we illuminate a side of Eliot Ness 1052 00:52:03,621 --> 00:52:05,156 few people have ever known. 1053 00:52:08,859 --> 00:52:12,397 [theme music] 83068

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