Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated:
1
00:00:04,672 --> 00:00:07,308
ANNOUNCER: This program is
about unsolved mysteries.
2
00:00:07,408 --> 00:00:09,410
Whenever possible, the
actual family members
3
00:00:09,510 --> 00:00:11,379
and police officials
have participated
4
00:00:11,479 --> 00:00:12,913
in recreating the events.
5
00:00:13,013 --> 00:00:15,583
What you are about to see
is not a news broadcast.
6
00:00:20,521 --> 00:00:23,857
ROBERT STACK: May 9, 1986,
Arizona State Prison,
7
00:00:23,957 --> 00:00:25,893
Patrick Michael
Mitchell and two cohorts
8
00:00:25,993 --> 00:00:28,496
stage a daring escape
in broad daylight.
9
00:00:28,596 --> 00:00:31,465
Since then, Mitchell is
suspected of robbing five banks
10
00:00:31,565 --> 00:00:35,069
of nearly $1 million and has
earned a spot on the FBI'S 10
11
00:00:35,169 --> 00:00:37,271
Most Wanted List.
12
00:00:37,371 --> 00:00:40,174
60 years ago in Ohio, an
eight-year-old farm boy
13
00:00:40,274 --> 00:00:41,675
was disciplined
by his stepparents
14
00:00:41,775 --> 00:00:44,845
and left to fend for himself
during the Depression.
15
00:00:44,945 --> 00:00:48,048
Today Victor Scheiman is still
looking for his real family
16
00:00:48,149 --> 00:00:50,551
and needs your help.
17
00:00:50,651 --> 00:00:53,621
From Nevada, an eerie tale
of two families and one
18
00:00:53,721 --> 00:00:54,988
haunted house.
19
00:00:55,089 --> 00:00:57,325
One of the family claims
they took this picture
20
00:00:57,425 --> 00:00:58,992
of a benevolent ghost.
21
00:00:59,093 --> 00:01:03,231
The other family claims that
their spirits tormented them.
22
00:01:03,331 --> 00:01:06,867
Also, the FBI is asking for your
help to track down a master con
23
00:01:06,967 --> 00:01:08,869
man who is suspected
of brutally murdering
24
00:01:08,969 --> 00:01:11,372
his wife and two stepdaughters.
25
00:01:11,472 --> 00:01:12,340
Join me.
26
00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,275
Perhaps you can help
solve a mystery.
27
00:02:07,428 --> 00:02:11,432
December 14, 1987, 8:30 am.
28
00:02:11,532 --> 00:02:13,434
[crash]
29
00:02:17,505 --> 00:02:19,907
Nobody move!
30
00:02:20,007 --> 00:02:22,876
Just put your hands up,
and no one will get hurt.
31
00:02:22,976 --> 00:02:25,879
ROBERT STACK: Two men, wearing
Ronald Reagan masks held up
32
00:02:25,979 --> 00:02:27,781
a bank in Gainesville, Florida.
33
00:02:27,881 --> 00:02:29,082
Keep your hand up.
34
00:02:29,183 --> 00:02:30,851
ROBERT STACK: The bank had
not yet opened for business.
35
00:02:30,951 --> 00:02:34,054
Employees were marking
in the weekend deposits.
36
00:02:34,154 --> 00:02:36,290
In less than five
minutes, the two robbers
37
00:02:36,390 --> 00:02:41,962
made off with nearly $500,000.
38
00:02:42,062 --> 00:02:44,365
Working with
similar MOs, the FBI
39
00:02:44,465 --> 00:02:48,168
targeted Richard Joseph
Landry, alias Michael Garrison,
40
00:02:48,269 --> 00:02:50,304
alias Roger Lanthorn.
41
00:02:50,404 --> 00:02:53,441
They all turned out to be
the same man, Patrick Michael
42
00:02:53,541 --> 00:02:55,376
Mitchell, one of the
most skilled bank
43
00:02:55,476 --> 00:02:57,077
robbers in the country.
44
00:02:57,177 --> 00:02:59,247
During the last 15
years, his heists have
45
00:02:59,347 --> 00:03:00,714
netted close to $3 million.
46
00:03:04,518 --> 00:03:06,354
Patrick Michael
Mitchell is an escape
47
00:03:06,454 --> 00:03:09,189
artist, a master of disguise.
48
00:03:09,290 --> 00:03:12,793
He changes identities like
most men change shirts.
49
00:03:12,893 --> 00:03:16,029
Each time he Robinson bank he
wears a different comic mask,
50
00:03:16,129 --> 00:03:19,833
Ronald Reagan, Richard
Nixon, even Bozo the Clown.
51
00:03:19,933 --> 00:03:22,303
The FBI believes the masks
are Mitchell's way of thumbing
52
00:03:22,403 --> 00:03:24,137
his nose at authority.
53
00:03:24,238 --> 00:03:26,907
Today, after 14 bank
robberies in the United States
54
00:03:27,007 --> 00:03:29,677
and Canada and two
prison escapes,
55
00:03:29,777 --> 00:03:31,945
Mitchell is the newest
addition to the FBI'S
56
00:03:32,045 --> 00:03:35,549
10 Most Wanted List.
57
00:03:35,649 --> 00:03:36,917
I guess you
could best describe
58
00:03:37,017 --> 00:03:39,787
him as being confident.
59
00:03:39,887 --> 00:03:43,391
He's even vain, to a certain
extent, in that we believe him
60
00:03:43,491 --> 00:03:45,158
to have taken the
prescription drug
61
00:03:45,259 --> 00:03:49,096
of Retina A, which
supposedly helps
62
00:03:49,196 --> 00:03:51,832
keep your youthful appearance.
63
00:03:51,932 --> 00:03:55,369
He's been described as
having an athletic build.
64
00:03:55,469 --> 00:03:57,638
He likes the ladies.
65
00:03:57,738 --> 00:04:00,674
He fancies himself
as a gourmet cook.
66
00:04:00,774 --> 00:04:02,109
Matter of fact,
we've even recovered
67
00:04:02,209 --> 00:04:05,613
some cookbooks from the
trunk of one of his cars.
68
00:04:05,713 --> 00:04:08,716
So far, we've developed at
least 25 different aliases
69
00:04:08,816 --> 00:04:13,020
he's used in the past 11 years.
70
00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,122
ROBERT STACK: In
1983, Patrick Mitchell
71
00:04:15,222 --> 00:04:17,257
was given a 20 year
sentence at Arizona
72
00:04:17,358 --> 00:04:18,792
State Prison for bank robbery.
73
00:04:22,696 --> 00:04:25,533
On May 9, 1986, he and
two other prisoners
74
00:04:25,633 --> 00:04:29,603
assigned to janitorial
duties staged a bold escape.
75
00:04:29,703 --> 00:04:32,906
It had been meticulously planned
and precisely timed by Mitchell
76
00:04:33,006 --> 00:04:33,807
himself.
77
00:04:51,058 --> 00:04:53,694
None of the guards noticed that
the three men were missing.
78
00:04:53,794 --> 00:04:57,197
No alarms had been set off.
79
00:04:57,297 --> 00:04:59,733
Wearing street clothes, they
had hidden in a utility room,
80
00:04:59,833 --> 00:05:02,169
the three convicts
simply walked outside.
81
00:05:08,376 --> 00:05:11,479
A girlfriend of one of the
prisoners was waiting for them.
82
00:05:11,579 --> 00:05:13,481
She had been duped into
believing that the men
83
00:05:13,581 --> 00:05:16,183
were on a weekend furlough.
84
00:05:16,283 --> 00:05:18,352
The escape went off
without a hitch.
85
00:05:18,452 --> 00:05:19,787
One of the men
would eventually be
86
00:05:19,887 --> 00:05:21,855
arrested in Atlanta, Georgia.
87
00:05:21,955 --> 00:05:24,358
Patrick Michael Mitchell,
with the third escapee,
88
00:05:24,458 --> 00:05:27,395
Johnny Salazar Stewart, headed
for Gainesville, Florida.
89
00:05:30,330 --> 00:05:34,301
They come into a town,
a month or two in advance.
90
00:05:34,402 --> 00:05:35,869
They come in on
several occasions,
91
00:05:35,969 --> 00:05:39,740
stay at local hotels and
motels, we believe either
92
00:05:39,840 --> 00:05:44,545
by staking out department
stores or armored car services,
93
00:05:44,645 --> 00:05:48,048
they then determine when and
where they will make their hit.
94
00:05:48,148 --> 00:05:49,983
The way I see it,
armored car gets
95
00:05:50,083 --> 00:05:53,621
there between 8:15 and 8:20.
96
00:05:53,721 --> 00:05:56,490
We'll watch them
go, and we go in--
97
00:05:56,590 --> 00:05:58,258
ROBERT STACK: In
the fall of 1987,
98
00:05:58,358 --> 00:06:00,227
Patrick Mitchell
and Johnnie Stewart
99
00:06:00,327 --> 00:06:05,232
began planning a
robbery in Gainesville.
100
00:06:05,332 --> 00:06:07,067
Mitchell rented a
self-storage unit
101
00:06:07,167 --> 00:06:10,003
with a good view of both the
bank they intended to rob
102
00:06:10,103 --> 00:06:12,205
and the armored car company
that served the bank.
103
00:06:16,076 --> 00:06:19,112
Mitchell pretended to load and
unload boxes from the storage
104
00:06:19,212 --> 00:06:21,849
unit, while he observed the
routine operating movements
105
00:06:21,949 --> 00:06:23,116
of the armored car company.
106
00:06:28,889 --> 00:06:32,092
Patrick Mitchell never went
inside the bank himself.
107
00:06:32,192 --> 00:06:34,928
Instead, he sent Johnny
Stewart to scout the interior.
108
00:06:38,098 --> 00:06:41,001
Actually it's a pretty
good idea, this individual
109
00:06:41,101 --> 00:06:42,803
after they open an account,
has a legitimate reason
110
00:06:42,903 --> 00:06:44,204
for being in the bank.
111
00:06:44,304 --> 00:06:46,907
So there will be no questions
for an individual who
112
00:06:47,007 --> 00:06:48,542
has an account there,
walking around, looking
113
00:06:48,642 --> 00:06:51,812
around, and conversing
with different customers
114
00:06:51,912 --> 00:06:53,447
and employees.
115
00:06:53,547 --> 00:06:55,949
He can also be there
when deliveries are made
116
00:06:56,049 --> 00:06:58,519
by the armored car
services possibly,
117
00:06:58,619 --> 00:07:00,754
where he can see actually
what they're doing
118
00:07:00,854 --> 00:07:04,257
and how they're doing it
after deliveries are made.
119
00:07:04,357 --> 00:07:07,127
ROBERT STACK: 7:30 AM,
the day of the robbery.
120
00:07:07,227 --> 00:07:10,197
Mitchell and Stewart meet at
the self-storage facility.
121
00:07:14,635 --> 00:07:17,971
7:50 AM, bank employees
begin filing in
122
00:07:18,071 --> 00:07:20,040
to prepare for business hours.
123
00:07:20,140 --> 00:07:22,442
The bank will open in
one hour and 10 minutes.
124
00:07:28,248 --> 00:07:30,450
The armored car leaves
to pick up deposits
125
00:07:30,551 --> 00:07:33,987
from several nearby stores.
126
00:07:34,087 --> 00:07:35,322
VOICE ON PHONE: I've
got a bomb planted.
127
00:07:35,422 --> 00:07:37,758
ROBERT STACK: 8:10, the
Gainesville police operator
128
00:07:37,858 --> 00:07:38,959
receives a bomb threat.
129
00:07:39,059 --> 00:07:40,460
Can you tell me what
time it's going to go off?
130
00:07:40,561 --> 00:07:42,095
ROBERT STACK: His target,
a junior high school
131
00:07:42,195 --> 00:07:43,096
in the Northeast Gainesville--
132
00:07:43,196 --> 00:07:44,331
It's going to go
off in 10 minutes?
133
00:07:44,431 --> 00:07:47,400
ROBERT STACK: --the same
police district as the bank.
134
00:07:47,501 --> 00:07:49,102
Hello?
135
00:07:49,202 --> 00:07:52,540
ROBERT STACK: 8:22, the armored
car guards arrive at the bank,
136
00:07:52,640 --> 00:08:01,248
swelling its total deposits
on hand to $300,000.
137
00:08:01,348 --> 00:08:03,817
Simultaneously, patrol
cars are dispatched
138
00:08:03,917 --> 00:08:07,921
to the site of the bomb threat,
32 blocks from the bank.
139
00:08:08,021 --> 00:08:10,223
Police now believe
that Patrick Mitchell
140
00:08:10,323 --> 00:08:12,860
phoned in the false alarm
as a diversionary tactic.
141
00:08:16,196 --> 00:08:19,432
8: 25 AM, Mitchell and
Stewart make their move.
142
00:08:23,036 --> 00:08:23,937
[crash]
143
00:08:24,037 --> 00:08:27,440
[scream]
144
00:08:27,541 --> 00:08:28,909
Don't anybody move.
145
00:08:29,009 --> 00:08:31,912
Put your hands up, and
no one will get hurt.
146
00:08:37,517 --> 00:08:39,787
Where are the money bags
that the armored car just
147
00:08:39,887 --> 00:08:41,722
dropped off?
148
00:08:41,822 --> 00:08:44,391
I was thinking, he's either
going to shoot somebody,
149
00:08:44,491 --> 00:08:46,827
or he's going to
take someone hostage.
150
00:08:46,927 --> 00:08:48,729
I was very frightened.
151
00:08:48,829 --> 00:08:52,132
I remembered laying on
the floor in the back,
152
00:08:52,232 --> 00:08:55,302
and I kept thinking, I'll never
see my husband or my children
153
00:08:55,402 --> 00:08:57,905
again.
154
00:08:58,005 --> 00:08:59,306
I started to cry.
155
00:08:59,406 --> 00:09:02,943
I remember thinking that he was
going to shoot me in the back.
156
00:09:03,043 --> 00:09:06,046
Keep your hands up,
and no one will get hurt.
157
00:09:16,489 --> 00:09:18,358
This is a bomb.
158
00:09:18,458 --> 00:09:22,763
Nobody move, and
it won't go off.
159
00:09:22,863 --> 00:09:24,131
ROBERT STACK: As
the two men flee,
160
00:09:24,231 --> 00:09:27,768
Mitchell drops a bag
containing $28,000.
161
00:09:27,868 --> 00:09:31,872
Nevertheless, their take for
the day is nearly $500,000.
162
00:09:31,972 --> 00:09:37,410
The bomb is a phony, but it
buys valuable escape time.
163
00:09:37,510 --> 00:09:41,014
8:40 AM, a woman who works
at the storage facility
164
00:09:41,114 --> 00:09:43,183
sees Mitchell drive away,
a rack full of clothes
165
00:09:43,283 --> 00:09:45,686
hung across the back seat.
166
00:09:45,786 --> 00:09:47,688
It is the last sighting
of Patrick Michael
167
00:09:47,788 --> 00:09:49,623
Mitchell in Gainesville.
168
00:09:53,060 --> 00:09:54,995
Two months after the
Gainesville robbery,
169
00:09:55,095 --> 00:09:58,165
Johnny Salazar Stewart
was apprehended.
170
00:09:58,265 --> 00:10:01,201
Despite his innocent plea,
he was tried and convicted
171
00:10:01,301 --> 00:10:03,303
for his role in the
robbery and is today
172
00:10:03,403 --> 00:10:06,807
serving a 40 year sentence.
173
00:10:06,907 --> 00:10:09,643
A year after the robbery,
Patrick Mitchell's Cadillac
174
00:10:09,743 --> 00:10:12,646
was found abandoned at a
storage facility in Tallahassee,
175
00:10:12,746 --> 00:10:14,848
150 miles from Gainesville.
176
00:10:14,948 --> 00:10:18,518
The car was clean of evidence,
but Mitchell did leave nine
177
00:10:18,618 --> 00:10:21,755
cookbooks in the back seat.
178
00:10:21,855 --> 00:10:24,157
During the last two years,
Mitchell has been sighted
179
00:10:24,257 --> 00:10:26,960
in Texas, Georgia, and Alabama.
180
00:10:27,060 --> 00:10:29,429
However, he is Canadian
and authorities believe he
181
00:10:29,529 --> 00:10:31,231
could have returned to Canada.
182
00:10:31,331 --> 00:10:35,168
His last known alias
with Johnny Grant.
183
00:10:35,268 --> 00:10:38,772
I think is imperative that we
find Patrick Michael Mitchell,
184
00:10:38,872 --> 00:10:41,875
because I don't believe
that he'll be stopping
185
00:10:41,975 --> 00:10:44,344
with the Gainesville robbery.
186
00:10:44,444 --> 00:10:46,980
Based on his previous
activities in the past 11
187
00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,684
years and his hit
frequency, I believe
188
00:10:50,784 --> 00:10:53,921
that it's not if he's going to
hit but when he's going to hit.
189
00:11:13,841 --> 00:11:15,142
ROBERT STACK: Next,
the poignant saga
190
00:11:15,242 --> 00:11:18,411
of a little boy torn from his
family during the Depression.
191
00:11:18,511 --> 00:11:21,548
Perhaps you can help reunite him
with his brothers and sisters.
192
00:11:32,692 --> 00:11:36,296
Dillonvale, Ohio,
1929, the darkest days
193
00:11:36,396 --> 00:11:38,732
of the Great Depression.
194
00:11:38,832 --> 00:11:40,700
For an 8-year-old
farm boy named Frank,
195
00:11:40,801 --> 00:11:43,370
the hard times, common
to all Americans,
196
00:11:43,470 --> 00:11:46,306
were especially cruel.
197
00:11:46,406 --> 00:11:50,177
Here's your bucket, Pa.
198
00:11:50,277 --> 00:11:53,546
I had the chickens to
feed and the grass to cut
199
00:11:53,646 --> 00:11:56,750
and the chores to do, and
of course, I was busy.
200
00:11:59,519 --> 00:12:02,189
I didn't mind that so
much, but I'd like to have
201
00:12:02,289 --> 00:12:05,793
been fed afterwards though.
202
00:12:05,893 --> 00:12:07,560
ROBERT STACK: For as far
back as he can remember,
203
00:12:07,660 --> 00:12:10,430
Frank's hardships went
beyond his thankless chores.
204
00:12:10,530 --> 00:12:11,999
Frank, have you
fed the chickens yet?
205
00:12:12,099 --> 00:12:14,567
What have you been doing,
you're such a lazy boy.
206
00:12:14,667 --> 00:12:15,702
This whole barn
has to be cleaned.
207
00:12:15,803 --> 00:12:16,603
This new hay--
208
00:12:16,703 --> 00:12:18,005
I was beaten.
209
00:12:18,105 --> 00:12:21,241
I went so hungry, the smell
of the food made me sick.
210
00:12:21,341 --> 00:12:22,342
No supper for you.
211
00:12:26,313 --> 00:12:28,782
I wasn't allowed in the house.
212
00:12:28,882 --> 00:12:34,154
I'd sleep in the barn most
of the time or with the dog.
213
00:12:34,254 --> 00:12:39,092
I was bitter, angry, and
a very upset young man,
214
00:12:39,192 --> 00:12:39,993
to say the least.
215
00:12:44,131 --> 00:12:45,665
ROBERT STACK: By age
nine, Frank's life
216
00:12:45,765 --> 00:12:47,901
had completely disintegrated.
217
00:12:48,001 --> 00:12:51,004
His parents informed him
that he wasn't even their son
218
00:12:51,104 --> 00:12:54,141
and ordered him off the
farm and out of their lives.
219
00:12:54,241 --> 00:12:57,510
Frank was told that his real
parents didn't want him either.
220
00:12:57,610 --> 00:13:00,080
They had turned him over to
the state welfare department
221
00:13:00,180 --> 00:13:02,615
just days after he was born.
222
00:13:02,715 --> 00:13:05,085
Frank was left to
fend for himself.
223
00:13:05,185 --> 00:13:08,321
He had no family and no
idea who he really was.
224
00:13:11,658 --> 00:13:14,361
The search for a missing
family and one's true identity
225
00:13:14,461 --> 00:13:16,629
can be a difficult ordeal.
226
00:13:16,729 --> 00:13:19,366
Many times years of research
end with disappointment
227
00:13:19,466 --> 00:13:22,970
in the dust-covered files of
some county record department.
228
00:13:23,070 --> 00:13:25,038
For those who do
succeed, the solution
229
00:13:25,138 --> 00:13:28,408
can sometimes be more
painful than the quest, when
230
00:13:28,508 --> 00:13:30,978
a child discovers he
was abandoned by parents
231
00:13:31,078 --> 00:13:33,280
who simply didn't care.
232
00:13:33,380 --> 00:13:35,849
This was a fear that
haunted nine-year-old Frank,
233
00:13:35,949 --> 00:13:38,518
whose search for the truth would
last more than half a century.
234
00:13:43,390 --> 00:13:45,225
After being put out
of his home, Frank
235
00:13:45,325 --> 00:13:47,227
was shuffled from
state institutions
236
00:13:47,327 --> 00:13:51,198
to foster families
and back again.
237
00:13:51,298 --> 00:13:53,133
I was a ward of
the state of Ohio.
238
00:13:55,936 --> 00:13:58,939
I ate at the soup kitchens.
239
00:13:59,039 --> 00:14:03,110
I stole food off the front
of stores, just to eat now.
240
00:14:03,210 --> 00:14:06,779
I was not a thief.
241
00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,749
I didn't know anything
about my parents.
242
00:14:09,849 --> 00:14:14,421
I was told all types of stories,
like the family deserted me.
243
00:14:14,521 --> 00:14:17,724
I just was lost.
244
00:14:17,824 --> 00:14:21,061
Frank, Frank.
245
00:14:21,161 --> 00:14:23,696
ROBERT STACK: As a teenager,
Frank's troubles continued.
246
00:14:23,796 --> 00:14:26,733
Did you hear my question?
247
00:14:26,833 --> 00:14:28,001
Did you read your
homework last night?
248
00:14:28,101 --> 00:14:29,569
ROBERT STACK: The belief
that his birth parents
249
00:14:29,669 --> 00:14:30,971
had willfully
abandoned him, left
250
00:14:31,071 --> 00:14:32,872
Frank dispirited and aimless.
251
00:14:32,973 --> 00:14:35,242
Frank, this is the
third time in two weeks.
252
00:14:35,342 --> 00:14:36,609
You're going to
stay after school
253
00:14:36,709 --> 00:14:40,013
and write the entire chapter
on pronouns until you finish.
254
00:14:40,113 --> 00:14:43,216
ROBERT STACK: But at 16, his
life took an unexpected turn.
255
00:14:43,316 --> 00:14:45,552
A concerned social worker
confirmed that Frank
256
00:14:45,652 --> 00:14:47,220
was not his real name.
257
00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,489
He had been born
Victor Scheiman.
258
00:14:49,589 --> 00:14:52,059
The counselor also
made a promise.
259
00:14:52,159 --> 00:14:54,694
If Frank applied himself
and stayed in school,
260
00:14:54,794 --> 00:14:56,696
his real parents would
be in the audience
261
00:14:56,796 --> 00:14:59,099
when he received his diploma.
262
00:14:59,199 --> 00:15:01,401
They told me my name
was Victor Scheiman.
263
00:15:01,501 --> 00:15:05,705
I had a family, that he would
see that my parents would
264
00:15:05,805 --> 00:15:09,242
be there on my graduation day.
265
00:15:09,342 --> 00:15:10,777
And I buckled down
and went to work.
266
00:15:16,749 --> 00:15:17,951
ROBERT STACK: That
day Frank had worked
267
00:15:18,051 --> 00:15:20,187
so hard for finally came.
268
00:15:20,287 --> 00:15:22,655
He was going to meet
his real family.
269
00:15:22,755 --> 00:15:25,892
Frank asked that he officially
be graduated Victor Scheiman.
270
00:15:25,993 --> 00:15:30,197
It was the first time
he used his real name.
271
00:15:30,297 --> 00:15:31,098
Victor Scheiman.
272
00:15:35,568 --> 00:15:38,205
I thought if my parents
were in the audience,
273
00:15:38,305 --> 00:15:40,640
they would hear the name
and they would respond.
274
00:15:40,740 --> 00:15:42,075
Lisa Goldblatt.
275
00:15:48,381 --> 00:15:49,416
Nobody showed up.
276
00:15:49,516 --> 00:15:50,317
Andy
277
00:15:50,417 --> 00:15:51,684
Robinson.
278
00:15:51,784 --> 00:15:55,122
And it turned out to be one
of the sorriest days of my life.
279
00:15:59,226 --> 00:16:04,064
I wrote to the Bureau of
Charities, the Welfare
280
00:16:04,164 --> 00:16:05,465
Departments State of Ohio.
281
00:16:08,268 --> 00:16:14,074
And the answer that I received
that nothing could be found.
282
00:16:14,174 --> 00:16:17,310
They knew very little.
283
00:16:17,410 --> 00:16:22,682
And that my family had just
disappeared without a trace.
284
00:16:22,782 --> 00:16:23,650
So I gave up.
285
00:16:29,189 --> 00:16:30,590
ROBERT STACK: At a
complete dead end,
286
00:16:30,690 --> 00:16:33,960
Victor had no choice but to
move ahead with his life.
287
00:16:34,061 --> 00:16:36,196
In the 1950s, he
married Eleanor Kell
288
00:16:36,296 --> 00:16:38,231
and started a family of his own.
289
00:16:38,331 --> 00:16:41,134
For 34 years, Victor
all but abandoned
290
00:16:41,234 --> 00:16:42,602
the hope of finding his family.
291
00:16:45,438 --> 00:16:48,308
But in 1984, Victor
learned of an organization
292
00:16:48,408 --> 00:16:50,910
in Reynoldsburg,
Ohio, called Reunite,
293
00:16:51,010 --> 00:16:54,881
a support group for people
searching for lost loved ones.
294
00:16:54,981 --> 00:16:57,750
An old school chum
told me about this group
295
00:16:57,850 --> 00:17:00,553
and I thought, well,
what have I got to lose?
296
00:17:00,653 --> 00:17:04,257
A little bit of time,
I can spare that.
297
00:17:04,357 --> 00:17:07,460
So I went and I was very amazed.
298
00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,396
My name is Victor Scheiman.
299
00:17:09,496 --> 00:17:14,101
I was born September the
5th, 1921 in Alliance, Ohio.
300
00:17:14,201 --> 00:17:15,268
ROBERT STACK: Victor
told the group
301
00:17:15,368 --> 00:17:16,803
the story of his childhood.
302
00:17:16,903 --> 00:17:20,073
That evening he met amateur
genealogist, Rose Murphy.
303
00:17:20,173 --> 00:17:21,574
I've been searching for
them all these years.
304
00:17:21,674 --> 00:17:25,978
This man has spent his
entire life, 60 plus years,
305
00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:28,381
without any knowledge
of his history.
306
00:17:28,481 --> 00:17:32,385
And I couldn't believe
that that could be true.
307
00:17:32,485 --> 00:17:35,288
And it just went
crossgrains to everything
308
00:17:35,388 --> 00:17:37,157
I believe in, because
I think everyone
309
00:17:37,257 --> 00:17:39,292
has the right to their history.
310
00:17:39,392 --> 00:17:40,693
ROBERT STACK: Rose
Murphy was determined
311
00:17:40,793 --> 00:17:43,430
to find Victor's family and
solve the puzzle which had
312
00:17:43,530 --> 00:17:45,898
eluded Victor his entire life.
313
00:17:45,998 --> 00:17:47,500
She began sifting
through a labyrinth
314
00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,802
of state adoption
records, county welfare
315
00:17:49,902 --> 00:17:52,105
files, and old newspapers.
316
00:17:52,205 --> 00:17:54,474
Incredibly, less
than a week later,
317
00:17:54,574 --> 00:17:57,076
she discovered the obituary
of a Hungarian immigrant
318
00:17:57,177 --> 00:17:59,011
named Lena Shimon.
319
00:17:59,112 --> 00:18:02,149
Lena had died in
1921, just hours
320
00:18:02,249 --> 00:18:04,617
after giving birth
to her 11th child.
321
00:18:04,717 --> 00:18:07,787
The baby's name, Victor.
322
00:18:07,887 --> 00:18:11,090
And I contacted a
Hungarian language professor.
323
00:18:11,191 --> 00:18:14,327
He said that he would
venture to guess,
324
00:18:14,427 --> 00:18:17,430
and would probably be right,
that the family name was
325
00:18:17,530 --> 00:18:20,233
actually Simon, a
common Hungarian family
326
00:18:20,333 --> 00:18:24,504
name, but pronounced by
a Hungarian spoken person
327
00:18:24,604 --> 00:18:29,008
and heard by an English ear,
would be spelled as Scheiman
328
00:18:29,108 --> 00:18:33,446
or Shiman, or any other
forms of spelling depending
329
00:18:33,546 --> 00:18:35,215
upon the person hearing it.
330
00:18:35,315 --> 00:18:37,817
Within 20 minutes, I
had located Victor's
331
00:18:37,917 --> 00:18:42,655
original birth certificate,
that had sat here for 64 years.
332
00:18:42,755 --> 00:18:44,357
They hadn't caught
it, because they're
333
00:18:44,457 --> 00:18:46,359
searching for it as
the Scheiman family,
334
00:18:46,459 --> 00:18:47,827
rather than the Simon family.
335
00:18:50,697 --> 00:18:52,899
ROBERT STACK: Information
found in the obituary and birth
336
00:18:52,999 --> 00:18:55,668
certificate enabled Rose
to reconstruct the events
337
00:18:55,768 --> 00:18:58,004
surrounding Victor's birth.
338
00:18:58,104 --> 00:19:00,807
Victor's father, Dan Simon,
had worked for the railroad
339
00:19:00,907 --> 00:19:03,142
in Alliance, Ohio,
just 100 miles
340
00:19:03,243 --> 00:19:05,245
from where Victor had grown up.
341
00:19:05,345 --> 00:19:08,648
Just before Victor's birth,
a tragic series of events
342
00:19:08,748 --> 00:19:11,551
was set into motion that would
separate him from his family.
343
00:19:29,168 --> 00:19:29,969
Ah!
344
00:19:33,072 --> 00:19:33,940
Hey, hey!
345
00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,443
Throw the switch!
346
00:19:36,543 --> 00:19:37,844
Throw the switch!
347
00:19:37,944 --> 00:19:40,547
ROBERT STACK: The bones in Dan
Simon's ankle were shattered.
348
00:19:40,647 --> 00:19:44,083
He was rushed to the hospital.
349
00:19:44,183 --> 00:19:47,119
That afternoon, Dan's wife,
Lena, went into labor.
350
00:19:50,323 --> 00:19:51,724
Push, that's it.
351
00:19:51,824 --> 00:19:53,293
You've got to help me.
352
00:19:53,393 --> 00:19:54,193
Good.
353
00:20:00,066 --> 00:20:03,703
I can imagine a tremendous
struggle going on physically as
354
00:20:03,803 --> 00:20:08,575
well as emotionally in that
room as Lena gave life to Victor
355
00:20:08,675 --> 00:20:11,043
and lost her own in the process.
356
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,690
I will fear no evil
for thou art with me.
357
00:20:23,790 --> 00:20:25,124
They rod and thy staff--
358
00:20:25,224 --> 00:20:27,560
According to her
obituary, Mr. Simon
359
00:20:27,660 --> 00:20:31,798
was take from the
hospital to the funeral.
360
00:20:31,898 --> 00:20:34,301
With this broken ankle,
the father being totally
361
00:20:34,401 --> 00:20:36,769
unable to care for
the child, Welfare
362
00:20:36,869 --> 00:20:40,907
placed the child for
foster care, and in fact
363
00:20:41,007 --> 00:20:43,075
indicated in their
records that the father
364
00:20:43,175 --> 00:20:47,780
agreed to that foster care
only with great regret.
365
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,918
Here he is, a strong
and healthy boy.
366
00:20:52,018 --> 00:20:53,553
His name is Victor.
367
00:20:53,653 --> 00:20:55,455
We've decided
to call him Frank.
368
00:20:55,555 --> 00:20:56,789
Frank.
369
00:20:56,889 --> 00:21:00,527
I feel very strongly that
his father returned to Welfare
370
00:21:00,627 --> 00:21:03,896
after he recuperated and was
out of the hospital, and said,
371
00:21:03,996 --> 00:21:06,232
you know, you have
my son, Victor Simon.
372
00:21:06,333 --> 00:21:07,934
I want my son back.
373
00:21:08,034 --> 00:21:09,736
He could very possibly
have been told,
374
00:21:09,836 --> 00:21:13,072
we don't have anybody by that
name, which they didn't have.
375
00:21:13,172 --> 00:21:15,842
They had a Victor
Emanuel Scheiman.
376
00:21:15,942 --> 00:21:18,210
They didn't have a Victor
Simon in their records.
377
00:21:25,318 --> 00:21:26,919
ROBERT STACK: Victor
Scheiman can take comfort
378
00:21:27,019 --> 00:21:29,822
in knowing that he was not
truly an unwanted child,
379
00:21:29,922 --> 00:21:33,926
but rather a victim of an
unlikely conspiracy of events.
380
00:21:34,026 --> 00:21:36,629
However, several pieces
to the puzzle of his life
381
00:21:36,729 --> 00:21:37,530
are still missing.
382
00:21:41,368 --> 00:21:44,571
I hope that I meet
some member of my family
383
00:21:44,671 --> 00:21:46,906
to know that I belong.
384
00:21:47,006 --> 00:21:49,609
I want to know what happened.
385
00:21:49,709 --> 00:21:52,111
I want my children
to have their side
386
00:21:52,211 --> 00:21:55,715
of the family, like uncles,
brothers, sisters, and so on.
387
00:21:55,815 --> 00:21:57,917
I just want to see
somebody and talk
388
00:21:58,017 --> 00:22:00,286
to somebody that I belong to.
389
00:22:05,658 --> 00:22:08,461
ROBERT STACK: When we return,
a brutal attack leaves a mother
390
00:22:08,561 --> 00:22:10,029
and her two daughters dead.
391
00:22:10,129 --> 00:22:12,031
A woman's husband is
wanted for murder.
392
00:22:22,609 --> 00:22:26,579
Las Vegas, city of big
dreams and high rollers.
393
00:22:26,679 --> 00:22:28,648
This desert town has
attracted every kind
394
00:22:28,748 --> 00:22:30,617
of crooked and con man.
395
00:22:30,717 --> 00:22:33,119
However during, the last
decade, the dry climate
396
00:22:33,219 --> 00:22:35,822
and limitless entertainment
have also begun to attract
397
00:22:35,922 --> 00:22:39,792
a large retirement community.
398
00:22:39,892 --> 00:22:42,294
Frank Allen, a Los
Angeles businessman,
399
00:22:42,395 --> 00:22:45,698
bought his dream
retirement home in 1986.
400
00:22:45,798 --> 00:22:48,034
It was located in an
elegant gated community
401
00:22:48,134 --> 00:22:52,038
10 miles from
downtown Las Vegas.
402
00:22:52,138 --> 00:22:54,006
As a temporary measure,
he rented the house
403
00:22:54,106 --> 00:22:56,275
to another family,
maintaining a room
404
00:22:56,375 --> 00:22:58,778
for himself as well for
his frequent business trips
405
00:22:58,878 --> 00:22:59,912
to Nevada.
406
00:23:00,012 --> 00:23:02,549
But Frank Allen had
no idea that Joe
407
00:23:02,649 --> 00:23:04,951
Smith, the man who
was renting his house,
408
00:23:05,051 --> 00:23:06,185
had an unsavory past.
409
00:23:09,489 --> 00:23:12,559
Joe Weldon Smith, who called
himself a real estate investor,
410
00:23:12,659 --> 00:23:15,562
had a long history as a con
man and had once been convicted
411
00:23:15,662 --> 00:23:17,797
of attempted grand theft.
412
00:23:17,897 --> 00:23:20,032
He lived in the Nevada
house with his wife, Judith,
413
00:23:20,132 --> 00:23:22,969
and her two daughters from a
previous marriage, 12-year-old
414
00:23:23,069 --> 00:23:24,537
Christy and 20-year-old Wendy.
415
00:23:27,373 --> 00:23:30,309
On October 6, 1990,
Frank Allen expected
416
00:23:30,409 --> 00:23:32,278
to have the house to himself.
417
00:23:32,378 --> 00:23:34,346
Joe Smith had said
that he and his family
418
00:23:34,447 --> 00:23:36,683
would be out of
town for a few days.
419
00:23:36,783 --> 00:23:38,851
Instead of a restful
weekend, Allen
420
00:23:38,951 --> 00:23:43,155
had stepped into a nightmare.
421
00:23:43,255 --> 00:23:45,458
I locked the door
behind me and went
422
00:23:45,558 --> 00:23:50,797
up to the top of the steps and
unlock the bedroom and went in.
423
00:23:50,897 --> 00:23:52,899
I started undressing,
took off my jacket,
424
00:23:52,999 --> 00:23:57,269
shirt, tie, and suddenly
stopped in my track, and said,
425
00:23:57,369 --> 00:23:59,472
something is wrong.
426
00:23:59,572 --> 00:24:01,808
I said, I don't know what it
is, but something is wrong.
427
00:24:13,452 --> 00:24:15,822
Joe, what the hell
are you doing?
428
00:24:15,922 --> 00:24:21,961
I grabbed him at the wrist
on that arm, his right arm,
429
00:24:22,061 --> 00:24:23,395
and that's when I shook him.
430
00:24:23,496 --> 00:24:26,533
And I said, Joe, what in the
hell are you trying to do?
431
00:24:26,633 --> 00:24:29,902
And then it was clear to me
that he was trying to murder me.
432
00:24:35,875 --> 00:24:38,277
Coming down the steps, I
said, now, I've locked myself
433
00:24:38,377 --> 00:24:40,647
in with these double
dead bolts, and I don't
434
00:24:40,747 --> 00:24:43,315
have time to reach for a key.
435
00:24:43,415 --> 00:24:46,886
So I ran across the foyer into
the living room dining room.
436
00:24:46,986 --> 00:24:49,421
And sure enough, he went
the opposite direction
437
00:24:49,522 --> 00:24:51,457
to head me off in the kitchen.
438
00:24:51,558 --> 00:24:53,960
And I doubled back
for the front door.
439
00:24:54,060 --> 00:24:56,963
I still didn't think I had
time to fumble for a key,
440
00:24:57,063 --> 00:24:59,231
so I went straight
through the door.
441
00:25:06,773 --> 00:25:07,674
[tires screech]
442
00:25:07,774 --> 00:25:09,809
He stood in the door
and glared at me
443
00:25:09,909 --> 00:25:13,813
and then walked back in
the direction of the bar.
444
00:25:13,913 --> 00:25:16,849
And I drove my car
up to the guard gate,
445
00:25:16,949 --> 00:25:19,586
and said to the guard,
call the police.
446
00:25:19,686 --> 00:25:21,654
There's a man in my house.
447
00:25:21,754 --> 00:25:22,789
Joe!
448
00:25:22,889 --> 00:25:24,724
Joe, it's the police.
449
00:25:24,824 --> 00:25:26,659
If you're in there, come on out.
450
00:25:30,162 --> 00:25:32,098
ROBERT STACK: 10 minutes
later, local police
451
00:25:32,198 --> 00:25:36,268
arrive at the house, expecting
to find Joe Smith still inside.
452
00:25:36,368 --> 00:25:38,137
They quickly made their
way from the living room
453
00:25:38,237 --> 00:25:39,071
to a downstairs bedroom.
454
00:25:39,171 --> 00:25:39,972
Joe!
455
00:25:40,072 --> 00:25:43,275
Come on out, Joe.
456
00:25:43,375 --> 00:25:44,877
ROBERT STACK: They thought
they had cornered Joe
457
00:25:44,977 --> 00:25:46,979
Smith hiding under a blanket.
458
00:25:47,079 --> 00:25:49,248
Instead they were confronted
with a tragic scene
459
00:25:49,348 --> 00:25:52,318
of 12-year-old Christie
Cox, Smith's stepdaughter.
460
00:25:52,418 --> 00:25:56,488
She had been strangled
and bludgeoned to death.
461
00:25:56,589 --> 00:25:58,925
It was obvious that she had
been dead for quite some time.
462
00:25:59,025 --> 00:26:01,360
She had several wounds to
the face and to her head.
463
00:26:05,464 --> 00:26:07,700
In the next bedroom, they
forcefully entered that also,
464
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,770
and that's when Wendy Cox was
found, laying beside the bed.
465
00:26:10,870 --> 00:26:14,006
She had approximately 32
wounds to her heads and hands,
466
00:26:14,106 --> 00:26:16,075
defensive wounds to her hands.
467
00:26:16,175 --> 00:26:19,846
And she had also been strangled.
468
00:26:19,946 --> 00:26:23,249
Officers went upstairs, searched
the open rooms, the game room
469
00:26:23,349 --> 00:26:26,252
and so forth, and then
went to the master bedroom,
470
00:26:26,352 --> 00:26:27,920
entered that.
The doors were closed.
471
00:26:28,020 --> 00:26:29,789
They entered that bedroom,
and that's when they found
472
00:26:29,889 --> 00:26:31,190
Judith Smith, lying in the bed.
473
00:26:33,860 --> 00:26:35,594
ROBERT STACK: Judith
Smith, Joe's wife
474
00:26:35,695 --> 00:26:39,165
and mother of the two girls, had
also been bludgeoned to death.
475
00:26:39,265 --> 00:26:42,034
Police later determined that
the three victims had been dead
476
00:26:42,134 --> 00:26:45,537
for approximately 18 hours.
477
00:26:45,638 --> 00:26:47,506
[phone rings]
478
00:26:54,380 --> 00:26:55,748
Hello?
479
00:26:55,848 --> 00:26:58,050
ROBERT STACK: Two hours after
the bodies were discovered,
480
00:26:58,150 --> 00:26:59,618
Smith telephoned his
wife's daughter-in-law.
481
00:26:59,719 --> 00:27:00,953
It's Joe.
482
00:27:01,053 --> 00:27:03,756
ROBERT STACK: He denied all
involvement in the murders.
483
00:27:03,856 --> 00:27:04,657
Joe?
484
00:27:04,757 --> 00:27:05,557
What's going on?
485
00:27:05,658 --> 00:27:07,526
It's after 4:00 in the morning.
486
00:27:07,626 --> 00:27:09,261
Are you sitting down?
487
00:27:09,361 --> 00:27:10,462
Yes.
488
00:27:10,562 --> 00:27:12,732
Approximately 4:30 in the
morning, on October 6th,
489
00:27:12,832 --> 00:27:15,968
he called her on the phone told
her that her mother and sisters
490
00:27:16,068 --> 00:27:18,838
had been murdered
and he had killed
491
00:27:18,938 --> 00:27:21,440
one of the people
that did the killing
492
00:27:21,540 --> 00:27:23,375
and knew who the
other ones were.
493
00:27:23,475 --> 00:27:24,977
Where are you?
494
00:27:25,077 --> 00:27:27,980
It doesn't matter
where I am right now.
495
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,850
You just have to believe I
had nothing to do with it.
496
00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:33,519
If I don't kill
myself, I'm going
497
00:27:33,619 --> 00:27:34,721
to find the guys who did it.
498
00:27:34,821 --> 00:27:36,522
I know who they are.
499
00:27:36,622 --> 00:27:39,291
And I'm going to kill them.
500
00:27:39,391 --> 00:27:42,729
In my opinion it was
a ruse by Mr. Smith
501
00:27:42,829 --> 00:27:46,632
to get support from Judith
Smith's family members
502
00:27:46,733 --> 00:27:47,934
and make them
believe that he was
503
00:27:48,034 --> 00:27:49,168
not involved in the killings.
504
00:27:51,871 --> 00:27:53,973
ROBERT STACK: Joe Smith fled
in a gold Lincoln Continental
505
00:27:54,073 --> 00:27:57,977
with vanity Nevada license
plates reading Smitty 2.
506
00:27:58,077 --> 00:27:59,946
He is wanted on three
counts of murder
507
00:28:00,046 --> 00:28:03,515
and one count of attempted
murder with a deadly weapon.
508
00:28:03,615 --> 00:28:08,687
Smith is 50 years old, six feet
tall and weighs 160 pounds.
509
00:28:08,788 --> 00:28:11,123
He has brown hair
and brown eyes.
510
00:28:11,223 --> 00:28:15,261
He may be working
in real estate.
511
00:28:15,361 --> 00:28:17,296
Police are still puzzled
by what appears to have
512
00:28:17,396 --> 00:28:19,498
been on motiveless crime.
513
00:28:19,598 --> 00:28:22,368
By all accounts, the Smiths'
marriage was a happy one.
514
00:28:22,468 --> 00:28:24,837
Though Joe Smith was in
dire financial straits,
515
00:28:24,937 --> 00:28:26,906
he was not named
in his wife's will,
516
00:28:27,006 --> 00:28:28,875
nor did he have life
insurance policies
517
00:28:28,975 --> 00:28:31,110
for her or her daughters.
518
00:28:31,210 --> 00:28:32,511
Authorities believe
Smith may now
519
00:28:32,611 --> 00:28:35,181
be somewhere in the Southwestern
United States or Mexico.
520
00:28:37,984 --> 00:28:40,452
Just minutes after we
profiled Smith's case,
521
00:28:40,552 --> 00:28:42,621
an anonymous viewer
called our telecenter
522
00:28:42,721 --> 00:28:44,690
to report that the
fugitive was living
523
00:28:44,791 --> 00:28:48,094
near Los Angeles, California.
524
00:28:48,194 --> 00:28:50,362
Smith was hiding
out at this motel,
525
00:28:50,462 --> 00:28:54,867
but managed to escape before
he could be apprehended.
526
00:28:54,967 --> 00:28:57,269
Once we establish that Joe
Weldon Smith was in the Los
527
00:28:57,369 --> 00:28:59,772
Angeles area, we
focused our attention
528
00:28:59,872 --> 00:29:03,609
to his brother, who we know
that he had close contact with.
529
00:29:03,709 --> 00:29:05,945
After five days of
surveilling this brother,
530
00:29:06,045 --> 00:29:10,716
we established where the
suspect was residing.
531
00:29:10,817 --> 00:29:13,119
20 minutes later,
Joe Weldon Smith
532
00:29:13,219 --> 00:29:16,455
was arrested at another local
motel, where he was registered
533
00:29:16,555 --> 00:29:17,589
under an assumed name.
534
00:29:20,459 --> 00:29:23,395
Inside Smith's room, detectives
recovered several credit
535
00:29:23,495 --> 00:29:25,331
and identification cards.
536
00:29:25,431 --> 00:29:27,766
Smith told police that
he was in the process
537
00:29:27,867 --> 00:29:30,903
of creating a new identity.
538
00:29:31,003 --> 00:29:32,438
At the time of his
arrest, Joe Smith
539
00:29:32,538 --> 00:29:34,440
indicated to me that he
had seen the last airing
540
00:29:34,540 --> 00:29:36,475
of the "Unsolved
Mysteries" program.
541
00:29:36,575 --> 00:29:40,279
He also told me that it was
very tough being a fugitive,
542
00:29:40,379 --> 00:29:42,381
and he always knew someone
would be knocking at the door
543
00:29:42,481 --> 00:29:43,515
one day.
544
00:29:43,615 --> 00:29:45,084
He's kind of glad it's
all over at this point.
545
00:29:55,928 --> 00:29:57,463
ROBERT STACK: Next,
former residents
546
00:29:57,563 --> 00:29:59,531
claim that this
house is haunted,
547
00:29:59,631 --> 00:30:01,700
but are the spirits
friendly, evil,
548
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,570
or just a figment of
overactive imaginations?
549
00:30:18,050 --> 00:30:19,986
In the tiny hamlet
of Fish Springs,
550
00:30:20,086 --> 00:30:24,957
Nevada stands a 100-year-old
Kansas style farm house.
551
00:30:25,057 --> 00:30:28,594
It was originally built next
to a graveyard in Virginia City
552
00:30:28,694 --> 00:30:31,397
and has been moved three times.
553
00:30:31,497 --> 00:30:33,665
Some people find it
very odd that the house
554
00:30:33,765 --> 00:30:36,802
has managed to survive
for more than a century.
555
00:30:36,903 --> 00:30:39,538
Others believe the
explanation is simple.
556
00:30:39,638 --> 00:30:41,773
They say this house is haunted.
557
00:30:45,077 --> 00:30:48,214
I'd like to see it destroyed.
558
00:30:48,314 --> 00:30:50,983
I think it is a center
point for spirits.
559
00:30:51,083 --> 00:30:53,085
The house has something
keeping it alive.
560
00:30:57,356 --> 00:30:59,558
I'd like see it
burned to the ground.
561
00:30:59,658 --> 00:31:01,227
I've always loved older homes.
562
00:31:01,327 --> 00:31:05,731
And I'm fascinated by them, by
their building, and the fact
563
00:31:05,831 --> 00:31:07,399
that they have so much
history that they've
564
00:31:07,499 --> 00:31:09,535
withstood all that time.
565
00:31:09,635 --> 00:31:12,038
I just feel like they have
a memory of their own,
566
00:31:12,138 --> 00:31:13,072
just like people.
567
00:31:13,172 --> 00:31:15,374
They can remember
the past and things
568
00:31:15,474 --> 00:31:16,275
that have happened there.
569
00:31:27,453 --> 00:31:29,521
ROBERT STACK: There's
something about haunted houses
570
00:31:29,621 --> 00:31:31,057
that even the most
skeptical among us
571
00:31:31,157 --> 00:31:33,559
finds difficult to resist.
572
00:31:33,659 --> 00:31:35,861
Perhaps it's because they
bring back childhood memories
573
00:31:35,962 --> 00:31:37,997
of things that go
bump in the night,
574
00:31:38,097 --> 00:31:41,400
or perhaps they just
like a good ghost story.
575
00:31:41,500 --> 00:31:44,570
This is a tale of two families,
the Kelseys and the Robinsons.
576
00:31:44,670 --> 00:31:46,973
Both families believe they
had supernatural encounters
577
00:31:47,073 --> 00:31:49,175
while they lived in
the Nevada house,
578
00:31:49,275 --> 00:31:52,278
but the end result would
be very different for each.
579
00:31:52,378 --> 00:31:55,514
Is this a story of a congenial
and well-meaning spirit?
580
00:31:55,614 --> 00:31:58,050
Is it the tale of a
fearsome poltergeist?
581
00:31:58,150 --> 00:31:59,585
Or is it simply a tale?
582
00:31:59,685 --> 00:32:02,888
You will no doubt have
an opinion of your own.
583
00:32:06,625 --> 00:32:11,363
The Kelsey family bought the
house on May 2, 1978, 100 years
584
00:32:11,463 --> 00:32:15,234
to the day after the man
who built it had died.
585
00:32:15,334 --> 00:32:17,536
From the beginning,
there was something eerie
586
00:32:17,636 --> 00:32:19,972
about the house.
587
00:32:20,072 --> 00:32:22,774
I felt like we had gotten
more than we bargained for.
588
00:32:22,874 --> 00:32:25,177
And I wouldn't walk through
the house in the dark at all
589
00:32:25,277 --> 00:32:28,714
for fear that I was going to run
into something, something that
590
00:32:28,814 --> 00:32:29,915
wasn't supposed to be there.
591
00:32:37,423 --> 00:32:39,658
Just as you're getting to
sleep, you would hear footsteps
592
00:32:39,758 --> 00:32:41,493
walking up and down stairs.
593
00:32:41,593 --> 00:32:44,163
What's wrong?
594
00:32:44,263 --> 00:32:45,531
My husband would
tell me that he heard
595
00:32:45,631 --> 00:32:48,867
a swishing noise like the
rustle of the old chiffon skirts
596
00:32:48,967 --> 00:32:50,802
was how he described it.
597
00:32:50,902 --> 00:32:52,938
Sounds like swishing to me.
598
00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:54,906
We got really scared,
or I did anyway,
599
00:32:55,007 --> 00:32:57,976
thinking that either there
really was something happening
600
00:32:58,077 --> 00:33:00,746
in the house or we had just
seen too many scary movies,
601
00:33:00,846 --> 00:33:02,448
and my imagination
was running wild
602
00:33:02,548 --> 00:33:03,615
because it was an old house.
603
00:33:08,820 --> 00:33:11,957
The Kelsey's daughter, Jennifer,
who was then four years old
604
00:33:12,058 --> 00:33:14,260
had an even more
bizarre experience.
605
00:33:17,096 --> 00:33:18,997
I had just woken
up for some reason.
606
00:33:19,098 --> 00:33:20,499
I don't know why.
607
00:33:20,599 --> 00:33:24,470
And I remember, I rolled over
and I looked at my bedroom door
608
00:33:24,570 --> 00:33:27,373
and I saw this little boy.
609
00:33:27,473 --> 00:33:30,442
And he looked like he was sad.
610
00:33:30,542 --> 00:33:35,647
And, the man, he just looked
like he was really concerned.
611
00:33:35,747 --> 00:33:37,383
And it was only there
for a few seconds
612
00:33:37,483 --> 00:33:39,251
but then it just
like disappeared.
613
00:33:39,351 --> 00:33:40,619
It was weird.
614
00:33:40,719 --> 00:33:42,821
They didn't looked
familiar to me at all,
615
00:33:42,921 --> 00:33:44,223
but the way they
were looking at me
616
00:33:44,323 --> 00:33:45,891
just seemed like they knew me.
617
00:33:45,991 --> 00:33:48,660
It was just really weird.
618
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,063
For some reason I keep thinking
that the levitation was
619
00:33:51,163 --> 00:33:53,865
the same night that I saw him.
620
00:33:53,965 --> 00:33:56,868
For some reason I just combined
the two together in memory.
621
00:33:56,968 --> 00:33:59,671
But I just remember
laying there in my bed.
622
00:33:59,771 --> 00:34:04,643
It Seemed like the whole
bed was just like floating.
623
00:34:04,743 --> 00:34:07,479
After Jennifer told
me what had happened,
624
00:34:07,579 --> 00:34:10,749
I was very scared
that things were
625
00:34:10,849 --> 00:34:15,287
starting to happen that aren't
supposed to happen normally.
626
00:34:15,387 --> 00:34:19,725
And I told my husband
about it, and he asked me
627
00:34:19,825 --> 00:34:21,427
if she was actually levitated.
628
00:34:21,527 --> 00:34:23,495
And I said, from what she was
saying, that what it sounded
629
00:34:23,595 --> 00:34:24,396
like.
630
00:34:27,966 --> 00:34:29,235
ROBERT STACK: Jim
and Susan Kelsey
631
00:34:29,335 --> 00:34:31,537
often heard strange
footsteps approaching
632
00:34:31,637 --> 00:34:33,205
their daughter's bedroom.
633
00:34:33,305 --> 00:34:36,975
They were concerned
for her safety.
634
00:34:37,075 --> 00:34:39,077
In desperation,
the Kelseys decided
635
00:34:39,178 --> 00:34:41,747
to call a local man,
Daniel Martin, who
636
00:34:41,847 --> 00:34:45,151
had a reputation as a psychic.
637
00:34:45,251 --> 00:34:47,686
When I first talked
to Mrs. Kelsey,
638
00:34:47,786 --> 00:34:52,424
she was more concerned,
confused, because she didn't
639
00:34:52,524 --> 00:34:55,461
understand what was happening.
640
00:34:55,561 --> 00:34:56,928
ROBERT STACK: After
visiting the house,
641
00:34:57,028 --> 00:35:00,899
Martin returned to his room and
put himself into a deep trance.
642
00:35:00,999 --> 00:35:04,035
Incredibly, Martin says that
while he was in the trance,
643
00:35:04,136 --> 00:35:05,471
he met Kelsey's ghost.
644
00:35:08,340 --> 00:35:11,410
I contacted an
entity, appeared
645
00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:13,979
to me as a sailing man.
646
00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:15,447
That's what came to my mind.
647
00:35:15,547 --> 00:35:17,082
He had the mustache.
648
00:35:17,183 --> 00:35:21,287
And at that time I
asked him, who are you?
649
00:35:21,387 --> 00:35:24,290
And he told me his
name was Samuel.
650
00:35:24,390 --> 00:35:27,359
And he told me at the time
that his purpose there
651
00:35:27,459 --> 00:35:33,165
was to protect the child and he
was there not to harm anyone.
652
00:35:33,265 --> 00:35:36,768
Then I explained to him that
he was frightening the family,
653
00:35:36,868 --> 00:35:40,239
and Samuel promised not to do
these things in the future,
654
00:35:40,339 --> 00:35:44,876
not to frighten them by doing
frightening things to them.
655
00:35:44,976 --> 00:35:48,814
Jennifer asked me, she said,
does that mean he's going away?
656
00:35:48,914 --> 00:35:50,649
And I said, I don't know.
657
00:35:50,749 --> 00:35:53,185
And then a couple of weeks
later, things had quieted down,
658
00:35:53,285 --> 00:35:54,986
and she asked me if
he had moved away,
659
00:35:55,086 --> 00:35:56,355
and I said, I didn't know.
660
00:35:56,455 --> 00:35:57,723
And she said, well,
I don't think he did.
661
00:35:57,823 --> 00:36:00,792
She says, I think
he's up to the attic.
662
00:36:00,892 --> 00:36:02,461
ROBERT STACK: The
Kelseys became convinced
663
00:36:02,561 --> 00:36:07,799
that their ghost, Samuel, was a
spirit who meant them no harm.
664
00:36:07,899 --> 00:36:11,470
Three years later, in 1981, they
moved to a more modern house
665
00:36:11,570 --> 00:36:12,671
nearby.
666
00:36:12,771 --> 00:36:16,575
The old home was leased
to a potential buyer.
667
00:36:16,675 --> 00:36:19,044
By now, the Kelseys
had three children,
668
00:36:19,144 --> 00:36:20,446
including an infant son.
669
00:36:25,851 --> 00:36:27,786
When my son was
seven weeks old,
670
00:36:27,886 --> 00:36:30,322
I had taken some pictures of
him and I had run out of flash,
671
00:36:30,422 --> 00:36:33,024
and I had the rest of the
roll of film to use up.
672
00:36:33,124 --> 00:36:35,261
And so I decided to
try to get the pictures
673
00:36:35,361 --> 00:36:36,962
taken of him anyway.
674
00:36:37,062 --> 00:36:38,497
And I propped him
up on the love seat
675
00:36:38,597 --> 00:36:41,767
next to a lamp, with some
stuffed animals around him,
676
00:36:41,867 --> 00:36:43,869
and proceeded to take the
rest of the roll of film,
677
00:36:43,969 --> 00:36:45,637
figuring there should
be enough light.
678
00:36:49,741 --> 00:36:52,244
When I went to pick the
pictures up, I opened them up
679
00:36:52,344 --> 00:36:57,283
and I pulled them out, and there
was a man on the first picture.
680
00:36:57,383 --> 00:36:59,551
And I thought, these
aren't my pictures.
681
00:36:59,651 --> 00:37:00,819
So I went through them.
682
00:37:00,919 --> 00:37:03,689
And after that initial
picture, everything in there,
683
00:37:03,789 --> 00:37:05,891
the roll was of my son.
684
00:37:05,991 --> 00:37:08,760
And I checked my negative
and the man was on it.
685
00:37:11,730 --> 00:37:13,699
The only way I can
explain the photograph
686
00:37:13,799 --> 00:37:16,067
is that it is of
our ghost, Samuel,
687
00:37:16,167 --> 00:37:18,337
because my daughter
had told me about
688
00:37:18,437 --> 00:37:21,507
three weeks earlier that she
felt that he had moved with us.
689
00:37:21,607 --> 00:37:23,409
And I didn't believe her.
690
00:37:23,509 --> 00:37:25,577
And I just saw the
picture of him,
691
00:37:25,677 --> 00:37:27,479
and it was his way
of telling us that he
692
00:37:27,579 --> 00:37:28,947
had in fact moved with us.
693
00:37:29,047 --> 00:37:32,418
That was the only
explanation there was.
694
00:37:32,518 --> 00:37:34,886
ROBERT STACK: The mysterious
photograph became front page
695
00:37:34,986 --> 00:37:36,888
news in Fish Springs.
696
00:37:36,988 --> 00:37:40,326
Interestingly, nobody in
town recognized the man
697
00:37:40,426 --> 00:37:42,528
in the picture.
698
00:37:42,628 --> 00:37:45,597
"Unsolved Mysteries" brought
in photographic expert Vernon
699
00:37:45,697 --> 00:37:48,467
Miller to analyze the snapshot.
700
00:37:48,567 --> 00:37:52,871
I can't say precisely
how this image was formed.
701
00:37:52,971 --> 00:37:55,474
There's not enough evidence.
702
00:37:55,574 --> 00:37:59,711
The image is three dimensional
and has reflected qualities
703
00:37:59,811 --> 00:38:02,213
where the skin is tight against
the skull, it's brighter
704
00:38:02,314 --> 00:38:04,516
and there's highlights there.
705
00:38:04,616 --> 00:38:06,418
A manifestation of
a ghost is usually
706
00:38:06,518 --> 00:38:09,287
thought of as transparent
or self-illuminant,
707
00:38:09,388 --> 00:38:12,023
and this is definitely
reflected light.
708
00:38:12,123 --> 00:38:16,862
I detected lines, horizontal
lines, across the image.
709
00:38:16,962 --> 00:38:21,533
In conclusion, I would
say that Samuel's ghost
710
00:38:21,633 --> 00:38:23,369
was made of of a large
television screen.
711
00:38:26,004 --> 00:38:28,540
The picture of
Samuel is not a fake.
712
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,176
There is a lot of things
that can't be explained.
713
00:38:31,276 --> 00:38:33,479
And I just think
this is one of them.
714
00:38:33,579 --> 00:38:35,080
I know I can't
explain how somebody
715
00:38:35,180 --> 00:38:39,918
came out in my picture that
wasn't there when I snapped it.
716
00:38:40,018 --> 00:38:42,388
ROBERT STACK: The Kelseys insist
they have never photographed
717
00:38:42,488 --> 00:38:44,390
their television screen.
718
00:38:44,490 --> 00:38:48,126
Could the picture be a
simple accident, even a hoax?
719
00:38:48,226 --> 00:38:51,530
Or could it really be a ghost?
720
00:38:51,630 --> 00:38:54,800
For 15 months the new tenants
of the Fish Springs house
721
00:38:54,900 --> 00:38:57,903
reported nothing
out of the ordinary.
722
00:38:58,003 --> 00:39:00,706
But then in October
of 1989, the house
723
00:39:00,806 --> 00:39:02,173
was rented to another family.
724
00:39:05,644 --> 00:39:07,546
Steve and Mona
Robinson knew nothing
725
00:39:07,646 --> 00:39:09,948
about the house's ghostly past.
726
00:39:10,048 --> 00:39:12,017
Soon, however, the
Robinson family
727
00:39:12,117 --> 00:39:15,053
was caught up in the middle
of it's very own ghost story.
728
00:39:17,923 --> 00:39:19,591
I felt that there was
ghosts in the house,
729
00:39:19,691 --> 00:39:22,027
but then I kept
telling myself no.
730
00:39:22,127 --> 00:39:26,364
And things started
happening more and more,
731
00:39:26,465 --> 00:39:29,401
the footsteps, the bangs.
732
00:39:29,501 --> 00:39:33,138
I'd bring it up to
Steve once in a while,
733
00:39:33,238 --> 00:39:37,876
and he would say, no, there's
got to be some reason why
734
00:39:37,976 --> 00:39:38,977
all this is happening.
735
00:39:39,077 --> 00:39:39,978
It's an old house.
736
00:39:42,581 --> 00:39:44,082
We even thought about pipes.
737
00:39:44,182 --> 00:39:47,953
We thought of all
kinds of things.
738
00:39:48,053 --> 00:39:50,155
ROBERT STACK: The Robinsons
became extremely concerned
739
00:39:50,255 --> 00:39:52,591
when their 11-year-old
son, Garrett, began to have
740
00:39:52,691 --> 00:39:54,125
frightening experiences.
741
00:39:58,930 --> 00:40:04,570
I started hearing noises
upstairs like it was walking,
742
00:40:04,670 --> 00:40:05,637
bangings, and stuff.
743
00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:11,943
After I heard the laughing,
I went up to the top
744
00:40:12,043 --> 00:40:14,179
of the stairs by myself.
745
00:40:14,279 --> 00:40:16,715
I was scared though because
I heard all these footsteps
746
00:40:16,815 --> 00:40:19,217
[inaudible].
747
00:40:19,317 --> 00:40:25,624
And there was a whole bunch
of walking around [inaudible]
748
00:40:25,724 --> 00:40:26,525
while I was upstairs.
749
00:40:29,961 --> 00:40:35,801
Then I started hearing humming,
three different like voices,
750
00:40:35,901 --> 00:40:38,303
a higher one, [inaudible].
751
00:40:41,873 --> 00:40:44,175
I then ran out the door.
752
00:40:44,275 --> 00:40:47,879
When I got out, when I
was inside my driveway,
753
00:40:47,979 --> 00:40:50,582
there was all this banging
of the screen door.
754
00:40:53,519 --> 00:40:57,556
And then for some reason,
I looked over to the window
755
00:40:57,656 --> 00:41:03,629
and I saw this old guy and
he had this grin on his face,
756
00:41:03,729 --> 00:41:06,297
a smirky grin, not
like a real mean one,
757
00:41:06,397 --> 00:41:07,599
like he was trying to be mean.
758
00:41:10,235 --> 00:41:12,871
ROBERT STACK: Six-year-old
Miles was the next child to fall
759
00:41:12,971 --> 00:41:16,207
under the spell of the house.
760
00:41:16,307 --> 00:41:21,379
I remember one night I was
getting lifted out of bed.
761
00:41:21,479 --> 00:41:25,316
Got lifted up pretty high.
762
00:41:25,416 --> 00:41:32,090
And I didn't know
what was happening.
763
00:41:32,190 --> 00:41:35,861
I just got lifted up.
764
00:41:35,961 --> 00:41:38,864
Well I had told my
husband then that I
765
00:41:38,964 --> 00:41:40,999
didn't want to live there.
766
00:41:41,099 --> 00:41:45,336
And he said, well, he goes,
they're not going to hurt us.
767
00:41:45,436 --> 00:41:46,237
He wasn't afraid.
768
00:41:50,141 --> 00:41:51,810
ROBERT STACK:
Finally, Mona Robinson
769
00:41:51,910 --> 00:41:54,946
reached the end of her rope.
770
00:41:55,046 --> 00:41:57,983
My husband and I were
getting ready to go to bed
771
00:41:58,083 --> 00:42:00,118
and I couldn't sleep.
772
00:42:00,218 --> 00:42:03,388
And I could hear
bangs in the hallway,
773
00:42:03,488 --> 00:42:05,857
like coming down the stairs.
774
00:42:05,957 --> 00:42:09,695
Then all of a sudden I
heard, right behind my bed,
775
00:42:09,795 --> 00:42:12,530
in a man's voice
called me a bitch.
776
00:42:17,603 --> 00:42:24,943
It was a bad voice, mad, angry.
777
00:42:25,043 --> 00:42:29,147
I thought, you know,
that she was going nuts.
778
00:42:29,247 --> 00:42:34,686
But at the same
time, I believed her.
779
00:42:34,786 --> 00:42:36,588
She refused to go to bed.
780
00:42:36,688 --> 00:42:39,090
She was always afraid that
once we got in the bed,
781
00:42:39,190 --> 00:42:41,026
the noises would start.
782
00:42:41,126 --> 00:42:44,663
So she'd stay up all night long.
783
00:42:44,763 --> 00:42:48,499
I felt like they were
trying to drive me crazy.
784
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:53,672
I would never believe anybody
that told me what has happened
785
00:42:53,772 --> 00:42:58,309
to me, I wouldn't believe them.
786
00:42:58,409 --> 00:43:01,012
I do believe now, because
we had it happen to us.
787
00:43:01,112 --> 00:43:03,749
You never believe anything like
that until it happens to you.
788
00:43:07,018 --> 00:43:10,021
ROBERT STACK: January 31,
1990, the Robinsons moved
789
00:43:10,121 --> 00:43:14,693
out of the house, less than four
months after they had moved in.
790
00:43:14,793 --> 00:43:16,828
The Kelseys, who still
owned the house once
791
00:43:16,928 --> 00:43:19,464
again called in Daniel Martin.
792
00:43:19,564 --> 00:43:22,668
Once again, he put
himself into a trance.
793
00:43:22,768 --> 00:43:25,704
Once again he claimed
he met ghosts,
794
00:43:25,804 --> 00:43:27,405
this time different ones.
795
00:43:33,211 --> 00:43:35,346
That time I encountered
three entities,
796
00:43:35,446 --> 00:43:37,949
two men and one woman.
797
00:43:38,049 --> 00:43:40,786
My first impressions when
I approached these entities
798
00:43:40,886 --> 00:43:43,388
were that they were of
the Virginia City era
799
00:43:43,488 --> 00:43:45,724
back in the old days.
800
00:43:45,824 --> 00:43:47,893
These entities were
not destructive,
801
00:43:47,993 --> 00:43:49,761
they were just
cantankerous, kind
802
00:43:49,861 --> 00:43:53,431
of a rowdy little
gang of troublemakers,
803
00:43:53,531 --> 00:43:56,668
had been and still was.
804
00:43:56,768 --> 00:43:57,803
ROBERT STACK:
Martin says he asked
805
00:43:57,903 --> 00:43:59,537
the spirits to leave the house.
806
00:43:59,637 --> 00:44:02,540
But it was too late to
do the Robinson any good.
807
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,143
They were already
settled in a new home,
808
00:44:05,243 --> 00:44:07,779
far away from hauntings
and poltergeists.
809
00:44:11,082 --> 00:44:13,752
To most of us, this
saga sounds incredible.
810
00:44:13,852 --> 00:44:15,420
But the Kelseys
and the Robinsons
811
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,488
take it very seriously.
812
00:44:17,588 --> 00:44:19,490
It is interesting to
note that last year,
813
00:44:19,590 --> 00:44:21,026
the Kelseys sold the
house to a couple
814
00:44:21,126 --> 00:44:23,394
with two children, who
bought with full knowledge
815
00:44:23,494 --> 00:44:25,897
of the stories of
spirits and haunting.
816
00:44:25,997 --> 00:44:28,099
The new owners have been in
the home for eight months
817
00:44:28,199 --> 00:44:31,002
and have reported no
unusual phenomena.
818
00:44:31,102 --> 00:44:33,271
Perhaps ghosts, like
many other things
819
00:44:33,371 --> 00:44:36,441
exist only in the eyes
of the beholder, perhaps.
820
00:44:46,584 --> 00:44:50,121
On our next 'Unsolved
Mysteries," for a lonely widow,
821
00:44:50,221 --> 00:44:53,458
Eric Kessler is like a dream
come true, charming, elegant,
822
00:44:53,558 --> 00:44:55,861
and cosmopolitan, he has
the perfect qualities
823
00:44:55,961 --> 00:44:59,530
for a potential husband
and a master con man.
824
00:44:59,630 --> 00:45:01,032
His elaborate schemes
have allegedly
825
00:45:01,132 --> 00:45:05,636
netted more than $150,000 from
at least four vulnerable women.
826
00:45:05,737 --> 00:45:07,773
Authorities are convinced
that his list of victims
827
00:45:07,873 --> 00:45:11,810
is much longer
and still growing.
828
00:45:11,910 --> 00:45:15,213
Join me for our next edition
of "Unsolved Mysteries."
829
00:45:21,619 --> 00:45:23,955
[music playing]
66453
Can't find what you're looking for?
Get subtitles in any language from opensubtitles.com, and translate them here.