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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,672 --> 00:00:07,308 ANNOUNCER: This program is about unsolved mysteries. 2 00:00:07,408 --> 00:00:09,410 Whenever possible, the actual family members 3 00:00:09,510 --> 00:00:11,379 and police officials have participated 4 00:00:11,479 --> 00:00:12,913 in recreating the events. 5 00:00:13,013 --> 00:00:15,583 What you are about to see is not a news broadcast. 6 00:00:20,521 --> 00:00:23,857 ROBERT STACK: May 9, 1986, Arizona State Prison, 7 00:00:23,957 --> 00:00:25,893 Patrick Michael Mitchell and two cohorts 8 00:00:25,993 --> 00:00:28,496 stage a daring escape in broad daylight. 9 00:00:28,596 --> 00:00:31,465 Since then, Mitchell is suspected of robbing five banks 10 00:00:31,565 --> 00:00:35,069 of nearly $1 million and has earned a spot on the FBI'S 10 11 00:00:35,169 --> 00:00:37,271 Most Wanted List. 12 00:00:37,371 --> 00:00:40,174 60 years ago in Ohio, an eight-year-old farm boy 13 00:00:40,274 --> 00:00:41,675 was disciplined by his stepparents 14 00:00:41,775 --> 00:00:44,845 and left to fend for himself during the Depression. 15 00:00:44,945 --> 00:00:48,048 Today Victor Scheiman is still looking for his real family 16 00:00:48,149 --> 00:00:50,551 and needs your help. 17 00:00:50,651 --> 00:00:53,621 From Nevada, an eerie tale of two families and one 18 00:00:53,721 --> 00:00:54,988 haunted house. 19 00:00:55,089 --> 00:00:57,325 One of the family claims they took this picture 20 00:00:57,425 --> 00:00:58,992 of a benevolent ghost. 21 00:00:59,093 --> 00:01:03,231 The other family claims that their spirits tormented them. 22 00:01:03,331 --> 00:01:06,867 Also, the FBI is asking for your help to track down a master con 23 00:01:06,967 --> 00:01:08,869 man who is suspected of brutally murdering 24 00:01:08,969 --> 00:01:11,372 his wife and two stepdaughters. 25 00:01:11,472 --> 00:01:12,340 Join me. 26 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,275 Perhaps you can help solve a mystery. 27 00:02:07,428 --> 00:02:11,432 December 14, 1987, 8:30 am. 28 00:02:11,532 --> 00:02:13,434 [crash] 29 00:02:17,505 --> 00:02:19,907 Nobody move! 30 00:02:20,007 --> 00:02:22,876 Just put your hands up, and no one will get hurt. 31 00:02:22,976 --> 00:02:25,879 ROBERT STACK: Two men, wearing Ronald Reagan masks held up 32 00:02:25,979 --> 00:02:27,781 a bank in Gainesville, Florida. 33 00:02:27,881 --> 00:02:29,082 Keep your hand up. 34 00:02:29,183 --> 00:02:30,851 ROBERT STACK: The bank had not yet opened for business. 35 00:02:30,951 --> 00:02:34,054 Employees were marking in the weekend deposits. 36 00:02:34,154 --> 00:02:36,290 In less than five minutes, the two robbers 37 00:02:36,390 --> 00:02:41,962 made off with nearly $500,000. 38 00:02:42,062 --> 00:02:44,365 Working with similar MOs, the FBI 39 00:02:44,465 --> 00:02:48,168 targeted Richard Joseph Landry, alias Michael Garrison, 40 00:02:48,269 --> 00:02:50,304 alias Roger Lanthorn. 41 00:02:50,404 --> 00:02:53,441 They all turned out to be the same man, Patrick Michael 42 00:02:53,541 --> 00:02:55,376 Mitchell, one of the most skilled bank 43 00:02:55,476 --> 00:02:57,077 robbers in the country. 44 00:02:57,177 --> 00:02:59,247 During the last 15 years, his heists have 45 00:02:59,347 --> 00:03:00,714 netted close to $3 million. 46 00:03:04,518 --> 00:03:06,354 Patrick Michael Mitchell is an escape 47 00:03:06,454 --> 00:03:09,189 artist, a master of disguise. 48 00:03:09,290 --> 00:03:12,793 He changes identities like most men change shirts. 49 00:03:12,893 --> 00:03:16,029 Each time he Robinson bank he wears a different comic mask, 50 00:03:16,129 --> 00:03:19,833 Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon, even Bozo the Clown. 51 00:03:19,933 --> 00:03:22,303 The FBI believes the masks are Mitchell's way of thumbing 52 00:03:22,403 --> 00:03:24,137 his nose at authority. 53 00:03:24,238 --> 00:03:26,907 Today, after 14 bank robberies in the United States 54 00:03:27,007 --> 00:03:29,677 and Canada and two prison escapes, 55 00:03:29,777 --> 00:03:31,945 Mitchell is the newest addition to the FBI'S 56 00:03:32,045 --> 00:03:35,549 10 Most Wanted List. 57 00:03:35,649 --> 00:03:36,917 I guess you could best describe 58 00:03:37,017 --> 00:03:39,787 him as being confident. 59 00:03:39,887 --> 00:03:43,391 He's even vain, to a certain extent, in that we believe him 60 00:03:43,491 --> 00:03:45,158 to have taken the prescription drug 61 00:03:45,259 --> 00:03:49,096 of Retina A, which supposedly helps 62 00:03:49,196 --> 00:03:51,832 keep your youthful appearance. 63 00:03:51,932 --> 00:03:55,369 He's been described as having an athletic build. 64 00:03:55,469 --> 00:03:57,638 He likes the ladies. 65 00:03:57,738 --> 00:04:00,674 He fancies himself as a gourmet cook. 66 00:04:00,774 --> 00:04:02,109 Matter of fact, we've even recovered 67 00:04:02,209 --> 00:04:05,613 some cookbooks from the trunk of one of his cars. 68 00:04:05,713 --> 00:04:08,716 So far, we've developed at least 25 different aliases 69 00:04:08,816 --> 00:04:13,020 he's used in the past 11 years. 70 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,122 ROBERT STACK: In 1983, Patrick Mitchell 71 00:04:15,222 --> 00:04:17,257 was given a 20 year sentence at Arizona 72 00:04:17,358 --> 00:04:18,792 State Prison for bank robbery. 73 00:04:22,696 --> 00:04:25,533 On May 9, 1986, he and two other prisoners 74 00:04:25,633 --> 00:04:29,603 assigned to janitorial duties staged a bold escape. 75 00:04:29,703 --> 00:04:32,906 It had been meticulously planned and precisely timed by Mitchell 76 00:04:33,006 --> 00:04:33,807 himself. 77 00:04:51,058 --> 00:04:53,694 None of the guards noticed that the three men were missing. 78 00:04:53,794 --> 00:04:57,197 No alarms had been set off. 79 00:04:57,297 --> 00:04:59,733 Wearing street clothes, they had hidden in a utility room, 80 00:04:59,833 --> 00:05:02,169 the three convicts simply walked outside. 81 00:05:08,376 --> 00:05:11,479 A girlfriend of one of the prisoners was waiting for them. 82 00:05:11,579 --> 00:05:13,481 She had been duped into believing that the men 83 00:05:13,581 --> 00:05:16,183 were on a weekend furlough. 84 00:05:16,283 --> 00:05:18,352 The escape went off without a hitch. 85 00:05:18,452 --> 00:05:19,787 One of the men would eventually be 86 00:05:19,887 --> 00:05:21,855 arrested in Atlanta, Georgia. 87 00:05:21,955 --> 00:05:24,358 Patrick Michael Mitchell, with the third escapee, 88 00:05:24,458 --> 00:05:27,395 Johnny Salazar Stewart, headed for Gainesville, Florida. 89 00:05:30,330 --> 00:05:34,301 They come into a town, a month or two in advance. 90 00:05:34,402 --> 00:05:35,869 They come in on several occasions, 91 00:05:35,969 --> 00:05:39,740 stay at local hotels and motels, we believe either 92 00:05:39,840 --> 00:05:44,545 by staking out department stores or armored car services, 93 00:05:44,645 --> 00:05:48,048 they then determine when and where they will make their hit. 94 00:05:48,148 --> 00:05:49,983 The way I see it, armored car gets 95 00:05:50,083 --> 00:05:53,621 there between 8:15 and 8:20. 96 00:05:53,721 --> 00:05:56,490 We'll watch them go, and we go in-- 97 00:05:56,590 --> 00:05:58,258 ROBERT STACK: In the fall of 1987, 98 00:05:58,358 --> 00:06:00,227 Patrick Mitchell and Johnnie Stewart 99 00:06:00,327 --> 00:06:05,232 began planning a robbery in Gainesville. 100 00:06:05,332 --> 00:06:07,067 Mitchell rented a self-storage unit 101 00:06:07,167 --> 00:06:10,003 with a good view of both the bank they intended to rob 102 00:06:10,103 --> 00:06:12,205 and the armored car company that served the bank. 103 00:06:16,076 --> 00:06:19,112 Mitchell pretended to load and unload boxes from the storage 104 00:06:19,212 --> 00:06:21,849 unit, while he observed the routine operating movements 105 00:06:21,949 --> 00:06:23,116 of the armored car company. 106 00:06:28,889 --> 00:06:32,092 Patrick Mitchell never went inside the bank himself. 107 00:06:32,192 --> 00:06:34,928 Instead, he sent Johnny Stewart to scout the interior. 108 00:06:38,098 --> 00:06:41,001 Actually it's a pretty good idea, this individual 109 00:06:41,101 --> 00:06:42,803 after they open an account, has a legitimate reason 110 00:06:42,903 --> 00:06:44,204 for being in the bank. 111 00:06:44,304 --> 00:06:46,907 So there will be no questions for an individual who 112 00:06:47,007 --> 00:06:48,542 has an account there, walking around, looking 113 00:06:48,642 --> 00:06:51,812 around, and conversing with different customers 114 00:06:51,912 --> 00:06:53,447 and employees. 115 00:06:53,547 --> 00:06:55,949 He can also be there when deliveries are made 116 00:06:56,049 --> 00:06:58,519 by the armored car services possibly, 117 00:06:58,619 --> 00:07:00,754 where he can see actually what they're doing 118 00:07:00,854 --> 00:07:04,257 and how they're doing it after deliveries are made. 119 00:07:04,357 --> 00:07:07,127 ROBERT STACK: 7:30 AM, the day of the robbery. 120 00:07:07,227 --> 00:07:10,197 Mitchell and Stewart meet at the self-storage facility. 121 00:07:14,635 --> 00:07:17,971 7:50 AM, bank employees begin filing in 122 00:07:18,071 --> 00:07:20,040 to prepare for business hours. 123 00:07:20,140 --> 00:07:22,442 The bank will open in one hour and 10 minutes. 124 00:07:28,248 --> 00:07:30,450 The armored car leaves to pick up deposits 125 00:07:30,551 --> 00:07:33,987 from several nearby stores. 126 00:07:34,087 --> 00:07:35,322 VOICE ON PHONE: I've got a bomb planted. 127 00:07:35,422 --> 00:07:37,758 ROBERT STACK: 8:10, the Gainesville police operator 128 00:07:37,858 --> 00:07:38,959 receives a bomb threat. 129 00:07:39,059 --> 00:07:40,460 Can you tell me what time it's going to go off? 130 00:07:40,561 --> 00:07:42,095 ROBERT STACK: His target, a junior high school 131 00:07:42,195 --> 00:07:43,096 in the Northeast Gainesville-- 132 00:07:43,196 --> 00:07:44,331 It's going to go off in 10 minutes? 133 00:07:44,431 --> 00:07:47,400 ROBERT STACK: --the same police district as the bank. 134 00:07:47,501 --> 00:07:49,102 Hello? 135 00:07:49,202 --> 00:07:52,540 ROBERT STACK: 8:22, the armored car guards arrive at the bank, 136 00:07:52,640 --> 00:08:01,248 swelling its total deposits on hand to $300,000. 137 00:08:01,348 --> 00:08:03,817 Simultaneously, patrol cars are dispatched 138 00:08:03,917 --> 00:08:07,921 to the site of the bomb threat, 32 blocks from the bank. 139 00:08:08,021 --> 00:08:10,223 Police now believe that Patrick Mitchell 140 00:08:10,323 --> 00:08:12,860 phoned in the false alarm as a diversionary tactic. 141 00:08:16,196 --> 00:08:19,432 8: 25 AM, Mitchell and Stewart make their move. 142 00:08:23,036 --> 00:08:23,937 [crash] 143 00:08:24,037 --> 00:08:27,440 [scream] 144 00:08:27,541 --> 00:08:28,909 Don't anybody move. 145 00:08:29,009 --> 00:08:31,912 Put your hands up, and no one will get hurt. 146 00:08:37,517 --> 00:08:39,787 Where are the money bags that the armored car just 147 00:08:39,887 --> 00:08:41,722 dropped off? 148 00:08:41,822 --> 00:08:44,391 I was thinking, he's either going to shoot somebody, 149 00:08:44,491 --> 00:08:46,827 or he's going to take someone hostage. 150 00:08:46,927 --> 00:08:48,729 I was very frightened. 151 00:08:48,829 --> 00:08:52,132 I remembered laying on the floor in the back, 152 00:08:52,232 --> 00:08:55,302 and I kept thinking, I'll never see my husband or my children 153 00:08:55,402 --> 00:08:57,905 again. 154 00:08:58,005 --> 00:08:59,306 I started to cry. 155 00:08:59,406 --> 00:09:02,943 I remember thinking that he was going to shoot me in the back. 156 00:09:03,043 --> 00:09:06,046 Keep your hands up, and no one will get hurt. 157 00:09:16,489 --> 00:09:18,358 This is a bomb. 158 00:09:18,458 --> 00:09:22,763 Nobody move, and it won't go off. 159 00:09:22,863 --> 00:09:24,131 ROBERT STACK: As the two men flee, 160 00:09:24,231 --> 00:09:27,768 Mitchell drops a bag containing $28,000. 161 00:09:27,868 --> 00:09:31,872 Nevertheless, their take for the day is nearly $500,000. 162 00:09:31,972 --> 00:09:37,410 The bomb is a phony, but it buys valuable escape time. 163 00:09:37,510 --> 00:09:41,014 8:40 AM, a woman who works at the storage facility 164 00:09:41,114 --> 00:09:43,183 sees Mitchell drive away, a rack full of clothes 165 00:09:43,283 --> 00:09:45,686 hung across the back seat. 166 00:09:45,786 --> 00:09:47,688 It is the last sighting of Patrick Michael 167 00:09:47,788 --> 00:09:49,623 Mitchell in Gainesville. 168 00:09:53,060 --> 00:09:54,995 Two months after the Gainesville robbery, 169 00:09:55,095 --> 00:09:58,165 Johnny Salazar Stewart was apprehended. 170 00:09:58,265 --> 00:10:01,201 Despite his innocent plea, he was tried and convicted 171 00:10:01,301 --> 00:10:03,303 for his role in the robbery and is today 172 00:10:03,403 --> 00:10:06,807 serving a 40 year sentence. 173 00:10:06,907 --> 00:10:09,643 A year after the robbery, Patrick Mitchell's Cadillac 174 00:10:09,743 --> 00:10:12,646 was found abandoned at a storage facility in Tallahassee, 175 00:10:12,746 --> 00:10:14,848 150 miles from Gainesville. 176 00:10:14,948 --> 00:10:18,518 The car was clean of evidence, but Mitchell did leave nine 177 00:10:18,618 --> 00:10:21,755 cookbooks in the back seat. 178 00:10:21,855 --> 00:10:24,157 During the last two years, Mitchell has been sighted 179 00:10:24,257 --> 00:10:26,960 in Texas, Georgia, and Alabama. 180 00:10:27,060 --> 00:10:29,429 However, he is Canadian and authorities believe he 181 00:10:29,529 --> 00:10:31,231 could have returned to Canada. 182 00:10:31,331 --> 00:10:35,168 His last known alias with Johnny Grant. 183 00:10:35,268 --> 00:10:38,772 I think is imperative that we find Patrick Michael Mitchell, 184 00:10:38,872 --> 00:10:41,875 because I don't believe that he'll be stopping 185 00:10:41,975 --> 00:10:44,344 with the Gainesville robbery. 186 00:10:44,444 --> 00:10:46,980 Based on his previous activities in the past 11 187 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,684 years and his hit frequency, I believe 188 00:10:50,784 --> 00:10:53,921 that it's not if he's going to hit but when he's going to hit. 189 00:11:13,841 --> 00:11:15,142 ROBERT STACK: Next, the poignant saga 190 00:11:15,242 --> 00:11:18,411 of a little boy torn from his family during the Depression. 191 00:11:18,511 --> 00:11:21,548 Perhaps you can help reunite him with his brothers and sisters. 192 00:11:32,692 --> 00:11:36,296 Dillonvale, Ohio, 1929, the darkest days 193 00:11:36,396 --> 00:11:38,732 of the Great Depression. 194 00:11:38,832 --> 00:11:40,700 For an 8-year-old farm boy named Frank, 195 00:11:40,801 --> 00:11:43,370 the hard times, common to all Americans, 196 00:11:43,470 --> 00:11:46,306 were especially cruel. 197 00:11:46,406 --> 00:11:50,177 Here's your bucket, Pa. 198 00:11:50,277 --> 00:11:53,546 I had the chickens to feed and the grass to cut 199 00:11:53,646 --> 00:11:56,750 and the chores to do, and of course, I was busy. 200 00:11:59,519 --> 00:12:02,189 I didn't mind that so much, but I'd like to have 201 00:12:02,289 --> 00:12:05,793 been fed afterwards though. 202 00:12:05,893 --> 00:12:07,560 ROBERT STACK: For as far back as he can remember, 203 00:12:07,660 --> 00:12:10,430 Frank's hardships went beyond his thankless chores. 204 00:12:10,530 --> 00:12:11,999 Frank, have you fed the chickens yet? 205 00:12:12,099 --> 00:12:14,567 What have you been doing, you're such a lazy boy. 206 00:12:14,667 --> 00:12:15,702 This whole barn has to be cleaned. 207 00:12:15,803 --> 00:12:16,603 This new hay-- 208 00:12:16,703 --> 00:12:18,005 I was beaten. 209 00:12:18,105 --> 00:12:21,241 I went so hungry, the smell of the food made me sick. 210 00:12:21,341 --> 00:12:22,342 No supper for you. 211 00:12:26,313 --> 00:12:28,782 I wasn't allowed in the house. 212 00:12:28,882 --> 00:12:34,154 I'd sleep in the barn most of the time or with the dog. 213 00:12:34,254 --> 00:12:39,092 I was bitter, angry, and a very upset young man, 214 00:12:39,192 --> 00:12:39,993 to say the least. 215 00:12:44,131 --> 00:12:45,665 ROBERT STACK: By age nine, Frank's life 216 00:12:45,765 --> 00:12:47,901 had completely disintegrated. 217 00:12:48,001 --> 00:12:51,004 His parents informed him that he wasn't even their son 218 00:12:51,104 --> 00:12:54,141 and ordered him off the farm and out of their lives. 219 00:12:54,241 --> 00:12:57,510 Frank was told that his real parents didn't want him either. 220 00:12:57,610 --> 00:13:00,080 They had turned him over to the state welfare department 221 00:13:00,180 --> 00:13:02,615 just days after he was born. 222 00:13:02,715 --> 00:13:05,085 Frank was left to fend for himself. 223 00:13:05,185 --> 00:13:08,321 He had no family and no idea who he really was. 224 00:13:11,658 --> 00:13:14,361 The search for a missing family and one's true identity 225 00:13:14,461 --> 00:13:16,629 can be a difficult ordeal. 226 00:13:16,729 --> 00:13:19,366 Many times years of research end with disappointment 227 00:13:19,466 --> 00:13:22,970 in the dust-covered files of some county record department. 228 00:13:23,070 --> 00:13:25,038 For those who do succeed, the solution 229 00:13:25,138 --> 00:13:28,408 can sometimes be more painful than the quest, when 230 00:13:28,508 --> 00:13:30,978 a child discovers he was abandoned by parents 231 00:13:31,078 --> 00:13:33,280 who simply didn't care. 232 00:13:33,380 --> 00:13:35,849 This was a fear that haunted nine-year-old Frank, 233 00:13:35,949 --> 00:13:38,518 whose search for the truth would last more than half a century. 234 00:13:43,390 --> 00:13:45,225 After being put out of his home, Frank 235 00:13:45,325 --> 00:13:47,227 was shuffled from state institutions 236 00:13:47,327 --> 00:13:51,198 to foster families and back again. 237 00:13:51,298 --> 00:13:53,133 I was a ward of the state of Ohio. 238 00:13:55,936 --> 00:13:58,939 I ate at the soup kitchens. 239 00:13:59,039 --> 00:14:03,110 I stole food off the front of stores, just to eat now. 240 00:14:03,210 --> 00:14:06,779 I was not a thief. 241 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,749 I didn't know anything about my parents. 242 00:14:09,849 --> 00:14:14,421 I was told all types of stories, like the family deserted me. 243 00:14:14,521 --> 00:14:17,724 I just was lost. 244 00:14:17,824 --> 00:14:21,061 Frank, Frank. 245 00:14:21,161 --> 00:14:23,696 ROBERT STACK: As a teenager, Frank's troubles continued. 246 00:14:23,796 --> 00:14:26,733 Did you hear my question? 247 00:14:26,833 --> 00:14:28,001 Did you read your homework last night? 248 00:14:28,101 --> 00:14:29,569 ROBERT STACK: The belief that his birth parents 249 00:14:29,669 --> 00:14:30,971 had willfully abandoned him, left 250 00:14:31,071 --> 00:14:32,872 Frank dispirited and aimless. 251 00:14:32,973 --> 00:14:35,242 Frank, this is the third time in two weeks. 252 00:14:35,342 --> 00:14:36,609 You're going to stay after school 253 00:14:36,709 --> 00:14:40,013 and write the entire chapter on pronouns until you finish. 254 00:14:40,113 --> 00:14:43,216 ROBERT STACK: But at 16, his life took an unexpected turn. 255 00:14:43,316 --> 00:14:45,552 A concerned social worker confirmed that Frank 256 00:14:45,652 --> 00:14:47,220 was not his real name. 257 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,489 He had been born Victor Scheiman. 258 00:14:49,589 --> 00:14:52,059 The counselor also made a promise. 259 00:14:52,159 --> 00:14:54,694 If Frank applied himself and stayed in school, 260 00:14:54,794 --> 00:14:56,696 his real parents would be in the audience 261 00:14:56,796 --> 00:14:59,099 when he received his diploma. 262 00:14:59,199 --> 00:15:01,401 They told me my name was Victor Scheiman. 263 00:15:01,501 --> 00:15:05,705 I had a family, that he would see that my parents would 264 00:15:05,805 --> 00:15:09,242 be there on my graduation day. 265 00:15:09,342 --> 00:15:10,777 And I buckled down and went to work. 266 00:15:16,749 --> 00:15:17,951 ROBERT STACK: That day Frank had worked 267 00:15:18,051 --> 00:15:20,187 so hard for finally came. 268 00:15:20,287 --> 00:15:22,655 He was going to meet his real family. 269 00:15:22,755 --> 00:15:25,892 Frank asked that he officially be graduated Victor Scheiman. 270 00:15:25,993 --> 00:15:30,197 It was the first time he used his real name. 271 00:15:30,297 --> 00:15:31,098 Victor Scheiman. 272 00:15:35,568 --> 00:15:38,205 I thought if my parents were in the audience, 273 00:15:38,305 --> 00:15:40,640 they would hear the name and they would respond. 274 00:15:40,740 --> 00:15:42,075 Lisa Goldblatt. 275 00:15:48,381 --> 00:15:49,416 Nobody showed up. 276 00:15:49,516 --> 00:15:50,317 Andy 277 00:15:50,417 --> 00:15:51,684 Robinson. 278 00:15:51,784 --> 00:15:55,122 And it turned out to be one of the sorriest days of my life. 279 00:15:59,226 --> 00:16:04,064 I wrote to the Bureau of Charities, the Welfare 280 00:16:04,164 --> 00:16:05,465 Departments State of Ohio. 281 00:16:08,268 --> 00:16:14,074 And the answer that I received that nothing could be found. 282 00:16:14,174 --> 00:16:17,310 They knew very little. 283 00:16:17,410 --> 00:16:22,682 And that my family had just disappeared without a trace. 284 00:16:22,782 --> 00:16:23,650 So I gave up. 285 00:16:29,189 --> 00:16:30,590 ROBERT STACK: At a complete dead end, 286 00:16:30,690 --> 00:16:33,960 Victor had no choice but to move ahead with his life. 287 00:16:34,061 --> 00:16:36,196 In the 1950s, he married Eleanor Kell 288 00:16:36,296 --> 00:16:38,231 and started a family of his own. 289 00:16:38,331 --> 00:16:41,134 For 34 years, Victor all but abandoned 290 00:16:41,234 --> 00:16:42,602 the hope of finding his family. 291 00:16:45,438 --> 00:16:48,308 But in 1984, Victor learned of an organization 292 00:16:48,408 --> 00:16:50,910 in Reynoldsburg, Ohio, called Reunite, 293 00:16:51,010 --> 00:16:54,881 a support group for people searching for lost loved ones. 294 00:16:54,981 --> 00:16:57,750 An old school chum told me about this group 295 00:16:57,850 --> 00:17:00,553 and I thought, well, what have I got to lose? 296 00:17:00,653 --> 00:17:04,257 A little bit of time, I can spare that. 297 00:17:04,357 --> 00:17:07,460 So I went and I was very amazed. 298 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,396 My name is Victor Scheiman. 299 00:17:09,496 --> 00:17:14,101 I was born September the 5th, 1921 in Alliance, Ohio. 300 00:17:14,201 --> 00:17:15,268 ROBERT STACK: Victor told the group 301 00:17:15,368 --> 00:17:16,803 the story of his childhood. 302 00:17:16,903 --> 00:17:20,073 That evening he met amateur genealogist, Rose Murphy. 303 00:17:20,173 --> 00:17:21,574 I've been searching for them all these years. 304 00:17:21,674 --> 00:17:25,978 This man has spent his entire life, 60 plus years, 305 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:28,381 without any knowledge of his history. 306 00:17:28,481 --> 00:17:32,385 And I couldn't believe that that could be true. 307 00:17:32,485 --> 00:17:35,288 And it just went crossgrains to everything 308 00:17:35,388 --> 00:17:37,157 I believe in, because I think everyone 309 00:17:37,257 --> 00:17:39,292 has the right to their history. 310 00:17:39,392 --> 00:17:40,693 ROBERT STACK: Rose Murphy was determined 311 00:17:40,793 --> 00:17:43,430 to find Victor's family and solve the puzzle which had 312 00:17:43,530 --> 00:17:45,898 eluded Victor his entire life. 313 00:17:45,998 --> 00:17:47,500 She began sifting through a labyrinth 314 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,802 of state adoption records, county welfare 315 00:17:49,902 --> 00:17:52,105 files, and old newspapers. 316 00:17:52,205 --> 00:17:54,474 Incredibly, less than a week later, 317 00:17:54,574 --> 00:17:57,076 she discovered the obituary of a Hungarian immigrant 318 00:17:57,177 --> 00:17:59,011 named Lena Shimon. 319 00:17:59,112 --> 00:18:02,149 Lena had died in 1921, just hours 320 00:18:02,249 --> 00:18:04,617 after giving birth to her 11th child. 321 00:18:04,717 --> 00:18:07,787 The baby's name, Victor. 322 00:18:07,887 --> 00:18:11,090 And I contacted a Hungarian language professor. 323 00:18:11,191 --> 00:18:14,327 He said that he would venture to guess, 324 00:18:14,427 --> 00:18:17,430 and would probably be right, that the family name was 325 00:18:17,530 --> 00:18:20,233 actually Simon, a common Hungarian family 326 00:18:20,333 --> 00:18:24,504 name, but pronounced by a Hungarian spoken person 327 00:18:24,604 --> 00:18:29,008 and heard by an English ear, would be spelled as Scheiman 328 00:18:29,108 --> 00:18:33,446 or Shiman, or any other forms of spelling depending 329 00:18:33,546 --> 00:18:35,215 upon the person hearing it. 330 00:18:35,315 --> 00:18:37,817 Within 20 minutes, I had located Victor's 331 00:18:37,917 --> 00:18:42,655 original birth certificate, that had sat here for 64 years. 332 00:18:42,755 --> 00:18:44,357 They hadn't caught it, because they're 333 00:18:44,457 --> 00:18:46,359 searching for it as the Scheiman family, 334 00:18:46,459 --> 00:18:47,827 rather than the Simon family. 335 00:18:50,697 --> 00:18:52,899 ROBERT STACK: Information found in the obituary and birth 336 00:18:52,999 --> 00:18:55,668 certificate enabled Rose to reconstruct the events 337 00:18:55,768 --> 00:18:58,004 surrounding Victor's birth. 338 00:18:58,104 --> 00:19:00,807 Victor's father, Dan Simon, had worked for the railroad 339 00:19:00,907 --> 00:19:03,142 in Alliance, Ohio, just 100 miles 340 00:19:03,243 --> 00:19:05,245 from where Victor had grown up. 341 00:19:05,345 --> 00:19:08,648 Just before Victor's birth, a tragic series of events 342 00:19:08,748 --> 00:19:11,551 was set into motion that would separate him from his family. 343 00:19:29,168 --> 00:19:29,969 Ah! 344 00:19:33,072 --> 00:19:33,940 Hey, hey! 345 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,443 Throw the switch! 346 00:19:36,543 --> 00:19:37,844 Throw the switch! 347 00:19:37,944 --> 00:19:40,547 ROBERT STACK: The bones in Dan Simon's ankle were shattered. 348 00:19:40,647 --> 00:19:44,083 He was rushed to the hospital. 349 00:19:44,183 --> 00:19:47,119 That afternoon, Dan's wife, Lena, went into labor. 350 00:19:50,323 --> 00:19:51,724 Push, that's it. 351 00:19:51,824 --> 00:19:53,293 You've got to help me. 352 00:19:53,393 --> 00:19:54,193 Good. 353 00:20:00,066 --> 00:20:03,703 I can imagine a tremendous struggle going on physically as 354 00:20:03,803 --> 00:20:08,575 well as emotionally in that room as Lena gave life to Victor 355 00:20:08,675 --> 00:20:11,043 and lost her own in the process. 356 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,690 I will fear no evil for thou art with me. 357 00:20:23,790 --> 00:20:25,124 They rod and thy staff-- 358 00:20:25,224 --> 00:20:27,560 According to her obituary, Mr. Simon 359 00:20:27,660 --> 00:20:31,798 was take from the hospital to the funeral. 360 00:20:31,898 --> 00:20:34,301 With this broken ankle, the father being totally 361 00:20:34,401 --> 00:20:36,769 unable to care for the child, Welfare 362 00:20:36,869 --> 00:20:40,907 placed the child for foster care, and in fact 363 00:20:41,007 --> 00:20:43,075 indicated in their records that the father 364 00:20:43,175 --> 00:20:47,780 agreed to that foster care only with great regret. 365 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,918 Here he is, a strong and healthy boy. 366 00:20:52,018 --> 00:20:53,553 His name is Victor. 367 00:20:53,653 --> 00:20:55,455 We've decided to call him Frank. 368 00:20:55,555 --> 00:20:56,789 Frank. 369 00:20:56,889 --> 00:21:00,527 I feel very strongly that his father returned to Welfare 370 00:21:00,627 --> 00:21:03,896 after he recuperated and was out of the hospital, and said, 371 00:21:03,996 --> 00:21:06,232 you know, you have my son, Victor Simon. 372 00:21:06,333 --> 00:21:07,934 I want my son back. 373 00:21:08,034 --> 00:21:09,736 He could very possibly have been told, 374 00:21:09,836 --> 00:21:13,072 we don't have anybody by that name, which they didn't have. 375 00:21:13,172 --> 00:21:15,842 They had a Victor Emanuel Scheiman. 376 00:21:15,942 --> 00:21:18,210 They didn't have a Victor Simon in their records. 377 00:21:25,318 --> 00:21:26,919 ROBERT STACK: Victor Scheiman can take comfort 378 00:21:27,019 --> 00:21:29,822 in knowing that he was not truly an unwanted child, 379 00:21:29,922 --> 00:21:33,926 but rather a victim of an unlikely conspiracy of events. 380 00:21:34,026 --> 00:21:36,629 However, several pieces to the puzzle of his life 381 00:21:36,729 --> 00:21:37,530 are still missing. 382 00:21:41,368 --> 00:21:44,571 I hope that I meet some member of my family 383 00:21:44,671 --> 00:21:46,906 to know that I belong. 384 00:21:47,006 --> 00:21:49,609 I want to know what happened. 385 00:21:49,709 --> 00:21:52,111 I want my children to have their side 386 00:21:52,211 --> 00:21:55,715 of the family, like uncles, brothers, sisters, and so on. 387 00:21:55,815 --> 00:21:57,917 I just want to see somebody and talk 388 00:21:58,017 --> 00:22:00,286 to somebody that I belong to. 389 00:22:05,658 --> 00:22:08,461 ROBERT STACK: When we return, a brutal attack leaves a mother 390 00:22:08,561 --> 00:22:10,029 and her two daughters dead. 391 00:22:10,129 --> 00:22:12,031 A woman's husband is wanted for murder. 392 00:22:22,609 --> 00:22:26,579 Las Vegas, city of big dreams and high rollers. 393 00:22:26,679 --> 00:22:28,648 This desert town has attracted every kind 394 00:22:28,748 --> 00:22:30,617 of crooked and con man. 395 00:22:30,717 --> 00:22:33,119 However during, the last decade, the dry climate 396 00:22:33,219 --> 00:22:35,822 and limitless entertainment have also begun to attract 397 00:22:35,922 --> 00:22:39,792 a large retirement community. 398 00:22:39,892 --> 00:22:42,294 Frank Allen, a Los Angeles businessman, 399 00:22:42,395 --> 00:22:45,698 bought his dream retirement home in 1986. 400 00:22:45,798 --> 00:22:48,034 It was located in an elegant gated community 401 00:22:48,134 --> 00:22:52,038 10 miles from downtown Las Vegas. 402 00:22:52,138 --> 00:22:54,006 As a temporary measure, he rented the house 403 00:22:54,106 --> 00:22:56,275 to another family, maintaining a room 404 00:22:56,375 --> 00:22:58,778 for himself as well for his frequent business trips 405 00:22:58,878 --> 00:22:59,912 to Nevada. 406 00:23:00,012 --> 00:23:02,549 But Frank Allen had no idea that Joe 407 00:23:02,649 --> 00:23:04,951 Smith, the man who was renting his house, 408 00:23:05,051 --> 00:23:06,185 had an unsavory past. 409 00:23:09,489 --> 00:23:12,559 Joe Weldon Smith, who called himself a real estate investor, 410 00:23:12,659 --> 00:23:15,562 had a long history as a con man and had once been convicted 411 00:23:15,662 --> 00:23:17,797 of attempted grand theft. 412 00:23:17,897 --> 00:23:20,032 He lived in the Nevada house with his wife, Judith, 413 00:23:20,132 --> 00:23:22,969 and her two daughters from a previous marriage, 12-year-old 414 00:23:23,069 --> 00:23:24,537 Christy and 20-year-old Wendy. 415 00:23:27,373 --> 00:23:30,309 On October 6, 1990, Frank Allen expected 416 00:23:30,409 --> 00:23:32,278 to have the house to himself. 417 00:23:32,378 --> 00:23:34,346 Joe Smith had said that he and his family 418 00:23:34,447 --> 00:23:36,683 would be out of town for a few days. 419 00:23:36,783 --> 00:23:38,851 Instead of a restful weekend, Allen 420 00:23:38,951 --> 00:23:43,155 had stepped into a nightmare. 421 00:23:43,255 --> 00:23:45,458 I locked the door behind me and went 422 00:23:45,558 --> 00:23:50,797 up to the top of the steps and unlock the bedroom and went in. 423 00:23:50,897 --> 00:23:52,899 I started undressing, took off my jacket, 424 00:23:52,999 --> 00:23:57,269 shirt, tie, and suddenly stopped in my track, and said, 425 00:23:57,369 --> 00:23:59,472 something is wrong. 426 00:23:59,572 --> 00:24:01,808 I said, I don't know what it is, but something is wrong. 427 00:24:13,452 --> 00:24:15,822 Joe, what the hell are you doing? 428 00:24:15,922 --> 00:24:21,961 I grabbed him at the wrist on that arm, his right arm, 429 00:24:22,061 --> 00:24:23,395 and that's when I shook him. 430 00:24:23,496 --> 00:24:26,533 And I said, Joe, what in the hell are you trying to do? 431 00:24:26,633 --> 00:24:29,902 And then it was clear to me that he was trying to murder me. 432 00:24:35,875 --> 00:24:38,277 Coming down the steps, I said, now, I've locked myself 433 00:24:38,377 --> 00:24:40,647 in with these double dead bolts, and I don't 434 00:24:40,747 --> 00:24:43,315 have time to reach for a key. 435 00:24:43,415 --> 00:24:46,886 So I ran across the foyer into the living room dining room. 436 00:24:46,986 --> 00:24:49,421 And sure enough, he went the opposite direction 437 00:24:49,522 --> 00:24:51,457 to head me off in the kitchen. 438 00:24:51,558 --> 00:24:53,960 And I doubled back for the front door. 439 00:24:54,060 --> 00:24:56,963 I still didn't think I had time to fumble for a key, 440 00:24:57,063 --> 00:24:59,231 so I went straight through the door. 441 00:25:06,773 --> 00:25:07,674 [tires screech] 442 00:25:07,774 --> 00:25:09,809 He stood in the door and glared at me 443 00:25:09,909 --> 00:25:13,813 and then walked back in the direction of the bar. 444 00:25:13,913 --> 00:25:16,849 And I drove my car up to the guard gate, 445 00:25:16,949 --> 00:25:19,586 and said to the guard, call the police. 446 00:25:19,686 --> 00:25:21,654 There's a man in my house. 447 00:25:21,754 --> 00:25:22,789 Joe! 448 00:25:22,889 --> 00:25:24,724 Joe, it's the police. 449 00:25:24,824 --> 00:25:26,659 If you're in there, come on out. 450 00:25:30,162 --> 00:25:32,098 ROBERT STACK: 10 minutes later, local police 451 00:25:32,198 --> 00:25:36,268 arrive at the house, expecting to find Joe Smith still inside. 452 00:25:36,368 --> 00:25:38,137 They quickly made their way from the living room 453 00:25:38,237 --> 00:25:39,071 to a downstairs bedroom. 454 00:25:39,171 --> 00:25:39,972 Joe! 455 00:25:40,072 --> 00:25:43,275 Come on out, Joe. 456 00:25:43,375 --> 00:25:44,877 ROBERT STACK: They thought they had cornered Joe 457 00:25:44,977 --> 00:25:46,979 Smith hiding under a blanket. 458 00:25:47,079 --> 00:25:49,248 Instead they were confronted with a tragic scene 459 00:25:49,348 --> 00:25:52,318 of 12-year-old Christie Cox, Smith's stepdaughter. 460 00:25:52,418 --> 00:25:56,488 She had been strangled and bludgeoned to death. 461 00:25:56,589 --> 00:25:58,925 It was obvious that she had been dead for quite some time. 462 00:25:59,025 --> 00:26:01,360 She had several wounds to the face and to her head. 463 00:26:05,464 --> 00:26:07,700 In the next bedroom, they forcefully entered that also, 464 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,770 and that's when Wendy Cox was found, laying beside the bed. 465 00:26:10,870 --> 00:26:14,006 She had approximately 32 wounds to her heads and hands, 466 00:26:14,106 --> 00:26:16,075 defensive wounds to her hands. 467 00:26:16,175 --> 00:26:19,846 And she had also been strangled. 468 00:26:19,946 --> 00:26:23,249 Officers went upstairs, searched the open rooms, the game room 469 00:26:23,349 --> 00:26:26,252 and so forth, and then went to the master bedroom, 470 00:26:26,352 --> 00:26:27,920 entered that. The doors were closed. 471 00:26:28,020 --> 00:26:29,789 They entered that bedroom, and that's when they found 472 00:26:29,889 --> 00:26:31,190 Judith Smith, lying in the bed. 473 00:26:33,860 --> 00:26:35,594 ROBERT STACK: Judith Smith, Joe's wife 474 00:26:35,695 --> 00:26:39,165 and mother of the two girls, had also been bludgeoned to death. 475 00:26:39,265 --> 00:26:42,034 Police later determined that the three victims had been dead 476 00:26:42,134 --> 00:26:45,537 for approximately 18 hours. 477 00:26:45,638 --> 00:26:47,506 [phone rings] 478 00:26:54,380 --> 00:26:55,748 Hello? 479 00:26:55,848 --> 00:26:58,050 ROBERT STACK: Two hours after the bodies were discovered, 480 00:26:58,150 --> 00:26:59,618 Smith telephoned his wife's daughter-in-law. 481 00:26:59,719 --> 00:27:00,953 It's Joe. 482 00:27:01,053 --> 00:27:03,756 ROBERT STACK: He denied all involvement in the murders. 483 00:27:03,856 --> 00:27:04,657 Joe? 484 00:27:04,757 --> 00:27:05,557 What's going on? 485 00:27:05,658 --> 00:27:07,526 It's after 4:00 in the morning. 486 00:27:07,626 --> 00:27:09,261 Are you sitting down? 487 00:27:09,361 --> 00:27:10,462 Yes. 488 00:27:10,562 --> 00:27:12,732 Approximately 4:30 in the morning, on October 6th, 489 00:27:12,832 --> 00:27:15,968 he called her on the phone told her that her mother and sisters 490 00:27:16,068 --> 00:27:18,838 had been murdered and he had killed 491 00:27:18,938 --> 00:27:21,440 one of the people that did the killing 492 00:27:21,540 --> 00:27:23,375 and knew who the other ones were. 493 00:27:23,475 --> 00:27:24,977 Where are you? 494 00:27:25,077 --> 00:27:27,980 It doesn't matter where I am right now. 495 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,850 You just have to believe I had nothing to do with it. 496 00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:33,519 If I don't kill myself, I'm going 497 00:27:33,619 --> 00:27:34,721 to find the guys who did it. 498 00:27:34,821 --> 00:27:36,522 I know who they are. 499 00:27:36,622 --> 00:27:39,291 And I'm going to kill them. 500 00:27:39,391 --> 00:27:42,729 In my opinion it was a ruse by Mr. Smith 501 00:27:42,829 --> 00:27:46,632 to get support from Judith Smith's family members 502 00:27:46,733 --> 00:27:47,934 and make them believe that he was 503 00:27:48,034 --> 00:27:49,168 not involved in the killings. 504 00:27:51,871 --> 00:27:53,973 ROBERT STACK: Joe Smith fled in a gold Lincoln Continental 505 00:27:54,073 --> 00:27:57,977 with vanity Nevada license plates reading Smitty 2. 506 00:27:58,077 --> 00:27:59,946 He is wanted on three counts of murder 507 00:28:00,046 --> 00:28:03,515 and one count of attempted murder with a deadly weapon. 508 00:28:03,615 --> 00:28:08,687 Smith is 50 years old, six feet tall and weighs 160 pounds. 509 00:28:08,788 --> 00:28:11,123 He has brown hair and brown eyes. 510 00:28:11,223 --> 00:28:15,261 He may be working in real estate. 511 00:28:15,361 --> 00:28:17,296 Police are still puzzled by what appears to have 512 00:28:17,396 --> 00:28:19,498 been on motiveless crime. 513 00:28:19,598 --> 00:28:22,368 By all accounts, the Smiths' marriage was a happy one. 514 00:28:22,468 --> 00:28:24,837 Though Joe Smith was in dire financial straits, 515 00:28:24,937 --> 00:28:26,906 he was not named in his wife's will, 516 00:28:27,006 --> 00:28:28,875 nor did he have life insurance policies 517 00:28:28,975 --> 00:28:31,110 for her or her daughters. 518 00:28:31,210 --> 00:28:32,511 Authorities believe Smith may now 519 00:28:32,611 --> 00:28:35,181 be somewhere in the Southwestern United States or Mexico. 520 00:28:37,984 --> 00:28:40,452 Just minutes after we profiled Smith's case, 521 00:28:40,552 --> 00:28:42,621 an anonymous viewer called our telecenter 522 00:28:42,721 --> 00:28:44,690 to report that the fugitive was living 523 00:28:44,791 --> 00:28:48,094 near Los Angeles, California. 524 00:28:48,194 --> 00:28:50,362 Smith was hiding out at this motel, 525 00:28:50,462 --> 00:28:54,867 but managed to escape before he could be apprehended. 526 00:28:54,967 --> 00:28:57,269 Once we establish that Joe Weldon Smith was in the Los 527 00:28:57,369 --> 00:28:59,772 Angeles area, we focused our attention 528 00:28:59,872 --> 00:29:03,609 to his brother, who we know that he had close contact with. 529 00:29:03,709 --> 00:29:05,945 After five days of surveilling this brother, 530 00:29:06,045 --> 00:29:10,716 we established where the suspect was residing. 531 00:29:10,817 --> 00:29:13,119 20 minutes later, Joe Weldon Smith 532 00:29:13,219 --> 00:29:16,455 was arrested at another local motel, where he was registered 533 00:29:16,555 --> 00:29:17,589 under an assumed name. 534 00:29:20,459 --> 00:29:23,395 Inside Smith's room, detectives recovered several credit 535 00:29:23,495 --> 00:29:25,331 and identification cards. 536 00:29:25,431 --> 00:29:27,766 Smith told police that he was in the process 537 00:29:27,867 --> 00:29:30,903 of creating a new identity. 538 00:29:31,003 --> 00:29:32,438 At the time of his arrest, Joe Smith 539 00:29:32,538 --> 00:29:34,440 indicated to me that he had seen the last airing 540 00:29:34,540 --> 00:29:36,475 of the "Unsolved Mysteries" program. 541 00:29:36,575 --> 00:29:40,279 He also told me that it was very tough being a fugitive, 542 00:29:40,379 --> 00:29:42,381 and he always knew someone would be knocking at the door 543 00:29:42,481 --> 00:29:43,515 one day. 544 00:29:43,615 --> 00:29:45,084 He's kind of glad it's all over at this point. 545 00:29:55,928 --> 00:29:57,463 ROBERT STACK: Next, former residents 546 00:29:57,563 --> 00:29:59,531 claim that this house is haunted, 547 00:29:59,631 --> 00:30:01,700 but are the spirits friendly, evil, 548 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,570 or just a figment of overactive imaginations? 549 00:30:18,050 --> 00:30:19,986 In the tiny hamlet of Fish Springs, 550 00:30:20,086 --> 00:30:24,957 Nevada stands a 100-year-old Kansas style farm house. 551 00:30:25,057 --> 00:30:28,594 It was originally built next to a graveyard in Virginia City 552 00:30:28,694 --> 00:30:31,397 and has been moved three times. 553 00:30:31,497 --> 00:30:33,665 Some people find it very odd that the house 554 00:30:33,765 --> 00:30:36,802 has managed to survive for more than a century. 555 00:30:36,903 --> 00:30:39,538 Others believe the explanation is simple. 556 00:30:39,638 --> 00:30:41,773 They say this house is haunted. 557 00:30:45,077 --> 00:30:48,214 I'd like to see it destroyed. 558 00:30:48,314 --> 00:30:50,983 I think it is a center point for spirits. 559 00:30:51,083 --> 00:30:53,085 The house has something keeping it alive. 560 00:30:57,356 --> 00:30:59,558 I'd like see it burned to the ground. 561 00:30:59,658 --> 00:31:01,227 I've always loved older homes. 562 00:31:01,327 --> 00:31:05,731 And I'm fascinated by them, by their building, and the fact 563 00:31:05,831 --> 00:31:07,399 that they have so much history that they've 564 00:31:07,499 --> 00:31:09,535 withstood all that time. 565 00:31:09,635 --> 00:31:12,038 I just feel like they have a memory of their own, 566 00:31:12,138 --> 00:31:13,072 just like people. 567 00:31:13,172 --> 00:31:15,374 They can remember the past and things 568 00:31:15,474 --> 00:31:16,275 that have happened there. 569 00:31:27,453 --> 00:31:29,521 ROBERT STACK: There's something about haunted houses 570 00:31:29,621 --> 00:31:31,057 that even the most skeptical among us 571 00:31:31,157 --> 00:31:33,559 finds difficult to resist. 572 00:31:33,659 --> 00:31:35,861 Perhaps it's because they bring back childhood memories 573 00:31:35,962 --> 00:31:37,997 of things that go bump in the night, 574 00:31:38,097 --> 00:31:41,400 or perhaps they just like a good ghost story. 575 00:31:41,500 --> 00:31:44,570 This is a tale of two families, the Kelseys and the Robinsons. 576 00:31:44,670 --> 00:31:46,973 Both families believe they had supernatural encounters 577 00:31:47,073 --> 00:31:49,175 while they lived in the Nevada house, 578 00:31:49,275 --> 00:31:52,278 but the end result would be very different for each. 579 00:31:52,378 --> 00:31:55,514 Is this a story of a congenial and well-meaning spirit? 580 00:31:55,614 --> 00:31:58,050 Is it the tale of a fearsome poltergeist? 581 00:31:58,150 --> 00:31:59,585 Or is it simply a tale? 582 00:31:59,685 --> 00:32:02,888 You will no doubt have an opinion of your own. 583 00:32:06,625 --> 00:32:11,363 The Kelsey family bought the house on May 2, 1978, 100 years 584 00:32:11,463 --> 00:32:15,234 to the day after the man who built it had died. 585 00:32:15,334 --> 00:32:17,536 From the beginning, there was something eerie 586 00:32:17,636 --> 00:32:19,972 about the house. 587 00:32:20,072 --> 00:32:22,774 I felt like we had gotten more than we bargained for. 588 00:32:22,874 --> 00:32:25,177 And I wouldn't walk through the house in the dark at all 589 00:32:25,277 --> 00:32:28,714 for fear that I was going to run into something, something that 590 00:32:28,814 --> 00:32:29,915 wasn't supposed to be there. 591 00:32:37,423 --> 00:32:39,658 Just as you're getting to sleep, you would hear footsteps 592 00:32:39,758 --> 00:32:41,493 walking up and down stairs. 593 00:32:41,593 --> 00:32:44,163 What's wrong? 594 00:32:44,263 --> 00:32:45,531 My husband would tell me that he heard 595 00:32:45,631 --> 00:32:48,867 a swishing noise like the rustle of the old chiffon skirts 596 00:32:48,967 --> 00:32:50,802 was how he described it. 597 00:32:50,902 --> 00:32:52,938 Sounds like swishing to me. 598 00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:54,906 We got really scared, or I did anyway, 599 00:32:55,007 --> 00:32:57,976 thinking that either there really was something happening 600 00:32:58,077 --> 00:33:00,746 in the house or we had just seen too many scary movies, 601 00:33:00,846 --> 00:33:02,448 and my imagination was running wild 602 00:33:02,548 --> 00:33:03,615 because it was an old house. 603 00:33:08,820 --> 00:33:11,957 The Kelsey's daughter, Jennifer, who was then four years old 604 00:33:12,058 --> 00:33:14,260 had an even more bizarre experience. 605 00:33:17,096 --> 00:33:18,997 I had just woken up for some reason. 606 00:33:19,098 --> 00:33:20,499 I don't know why. 607 00:33:20,599 --> 00:33:24,470 And I remember, I rolled over and I looked at my bedroom door 608 00:33:24,570 --> 00:33:27,373 and I saw this little boy. 609 00:33:27,473 --> 00:33:30,442 And he looked like he was sad. 610 00:33:30,542 --> 00:33:35,647 And, the man, he just looked like he was really concerned. 611 00:33:35,747 --> 00:33:37,383 And it was only there for a few seconds 612 00:33:37,483 --> 00:33:39,251 but then it just like disappeared. 613 00:33:39,351 --> 00:33:40,619 It was weird. 614 00:33:40,719 --> 00:33:42,821 They didn't looked familiar to me at all, 615 00:33:42,921 --> 00:33:44,223 but the way they were looking at me 616 00:33:44,323 --> 00:33:45,891 just seemed like they knew me. 617 00:33:45,991 --> 00:33:48,660 It was just really weird. 618 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,063 For some reason I keep thinking that the levitation was 619 00:33:51,163 --> 00:33:53,865 the same night that I saw him. 620 00:33:53,965 --> 00:33:56,868 For some reason I just combined the two together in memory. 621 00:33:56,968 --> 00:33:59,671 But I just remember laying there in my bed. 622 00:33:59,771 --> 00:34:04,643 It Seemed like the whole bed was just like floating. 623 00:34:04,743 --> 00:34:07,479 After Jennifer told me what had happened, 624 00:34:07,579 --> 00:34:10,749 I was very scared that things were 625 00:34:10,849 --> 00:34:15,287 starting to happen that aren't supposed to happen normally. 626 00:34:15,387 --> 00:34:19,725 And I told my husband about it, and he asked me 627 00:34:19,825 --> 00:34:21,427 if she was actually levitated. 628 00:34:21,527 --> 00:34:23,495 And I said, from what she was saying, that what it sounded 629 00:34:23,595 --> 00:34:24,396 like. 630 00:34:27,966 --> 00:34:29,235 ROBERT STACK: Jim and Susan Kelsey 631 00:34:29,335 --> 00:34:31,537 often heard strange footsteps approaching 632 00:34:31,637 --> 00:34:33,205 their daughter's bedroom. 633 00:34:33,305 --> 00:34:36,975 They were concerned for her safety. 634 00:34:37,075 --> 00:34:39,077 In desperation, the Kelseys decided 635 00:34:39,178 --> 00:34:41,747 to call a local man, Daniel Martin, who 636 00:34:41,847 --> 00:34:45,151 had a reputation as a psychic. 637 00:34:45,251 --> 00:34:47,686 When I first talked to Mrs. Kelsey, 638 00:34:47,786 --> 00:34:52,424 she was more concerned, confused, because she didn't 639 00:34:52,524 --> 00:34:55,461 understand what was happening. 640 00:34:55,561 --> 00:34:56,928 ROBERT STACK: After visiting the house, 641 00:34:57,028 --> 00:35:00,899 Martin returned to his room and put himself into a deep trance. 642 00:35:00,999 --> 00:35:04,035 Incredibly, Martin says that while he was in the trance, 643 00:35:04,136 --> 00:35:05,471 he met Kelsey's ghost. 644 00:35:08,340 --> 00:35:11,410 I contacted an entity, appeared 645 00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:13,979 to me as a sailing man. 646 00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:15,447 That's what came to my mind. 647 00:35:15,547 --> 00:35:17,082 He had the mustache. 648 00:35:17,183 --> 00:35:21,287 And at that time I asked him, who are you? 649 00:35:21,387 --> 00:35:24,290 And he told me his name was Samuel. 650 00:35:24,390 --> 00:35:27,359 And he told me at the time that his purpose there 651 00:35:27,459 --> 00:35:33,165 was to protect the child and he was there not to harm anyone. 652 00:35:33,265 --> 00:35:36,768 Then I explained to him that he was frightening the family, 653 00:35:36,868 --> 00:35:40,239 and Samuel promised not to do these things in the future, 654 00:35:40,339 --> 00:35:44,876 not to frighten them by doing frightening things to them. 655 00:35:44,976 --> 00:35:48,814 Jennifer asked me, she said, does that mean he's going away? 656 00:35:48,914 --> 00:35:50,649 And I said, I don't know. 657 00:35:50,749 --> 00:35:53,185 And then a couple of weeks later, things had quieted down, 658 00:35:53,285 --> 00:35:54,986 and she asked me if he had moved away, 659 00:35:55,086 --> 00:35:56,355 and I said, I didn't know. 660 00:35:56,455 --> 00:35:57,723 And she said, well, I don't think he did. 661 00:35:57,823 --> 00:36:00,792 She says, I think he's up to the attic. 662 00:36:00,892 --> 00:36:02,461 ROBERT STACK: The Kelseys became convinced 663 00:36:02,561 --> 00:36:07,799 that their ghost, Samuel, was a spirit who meant them no harm. 664 00:36:07,899 --> 00:36:11,470 Three years later, in 1981, they moved to a more modern house 665 00:36:11,570 --> 00:36:12,671 nearby. 666 00:36:12,771 --> 00:36:16,575 The old home was leased to a potential buyer. 667 00:36:16,675 --> 00:36:19,044 By now, the Kelseys had three children, 668 00:36:19,144 --> 00:36:20,446 including an infant son. 669 00:36:25,851 --> 00:36:27,786 When my son was seven weeks old, 670 00:36:27,886 --> 00:36:30,322 I had taken some pictures of him and I had run out of flash, 671 00:36:30,422 --> 00:36:33,024 and I had the rest of the roll of film to use up. 672 00:36:33,124 --> 00:36:35,261 And so I decided to try to get the pictures 673 00:36:35,361 --> 00:36:36,962 taken of him anyway. 674 00:36:37,062 --> 00:36:38,497 And I propped him up on the love seat 675 00:36:38,597 --> 00:36:41,767 next to a lamp, with some stuffed animals around him, 676 00:36:41,867 --> 00:36:43,869 and proceeded to take the rest of the roll of film, 677 00:36:43,969 --> 00:36:45,637 figuring there should be enough light. 678 00:36:49,741 --> 00:36:52,244 When I went to pick the pictures up, I opened them up 679 00:36:52,344 --> 00:36:57,283 and I pulled them out, and there was a man on the first picture. 680 00:36:57,383 --> 00:36:59,551 And I thought, these aren't my pictures. 681 00:36:59,651 --> 00:37:00,819 So I went through them. 682 00:37:00,919 --> 00:37:03,689 And after that initial picture, everything in there, 683 00:37:03,789 --> 00:37:05,891 the roll was of my son. 684 00:37:05,991 --> 00:37:08,760 And I checked my negative and the man was on it. 685 00:37:11,730 --> 00:37:13,699 The only way I can explain the photograph 686 00:37:13,799 --> 00:37:16,067 is that it is of our ghost, Samuel, 687 00:37:16,167 --> 00:37:18,337 because my daughter had told me about 688 00:37:18,437 --> 00:37:21,507 three weeks earlier that she felt that he had moved with us. 689 00:37:21,607 --> 00:37:23,409 And I didn't believe her. 690 00:37:23,509 --> 00:37:25,577 And I just saw the picture of him, 691 00:37:25,677 --> 00:37:27,479 and it was his way of telling us that he 692 00:37:27,579 --> 00:37:28,947 had in fact moved with us. 693 00:37:29,047 --> 00:37:32,418 That was the only explanation there was. 694 00:37:32,518 --> 00:37:34,886 ROBERT STACK: The mysterious photograph became front page 695 00:37:34,986 --> 00:37:36,888 news in Fish Springs. 696 00:37:36,988 --> 00:37:40,326 Interestingly, nobody in town recognized the man 697 00:37:40,426 --> 00:37:42,528 in the picture. 698 00:37:42,628 --> 00:37:45,597 "Unsolved Mysteries" brought in photographic expert Vernon 699 00:37:45,697 --> 00:37:48,467 Miller to analyze the snapshot. 700 00:37:48,567 --> 00:37:52,871 I can't say precisely how this image was formed. 701 00:37:52,971 --> 00:37:55,474 There's not enough evidence. 702 00:37:55,574 --> 00:37:59,711 The image is three dimensional and has reflected qualities 703 00:37:59,811 --> 00:38:02,213 where the skin is tight against the skull, it's brighter 704 00:38:02,314 --> 00:38:04,516 and there's highlights there. 705 00:38:04,616 --> 00:38:06,418 A manifestation of a ghost is usually 706 00:38:06,518 --> 00:38:09,287 thought of as transparent or self-illuminant, 707 00:38:09,388 --> 00:38:12,023 and this is definitely reflected light. 708 00:38:12,123 --> 00:38:16,862 I detected lines, horizontal lines, across the image. 709 00:38:16,962 --> 00:38:21,533 In conclusion, I would say that Samuel's ghost 710 00:38:21,633 --> 00:38:23,369 was made of of a large television screen. 711 00:38:26,004 --> 00:38:28,540 The picture of Samuel is not a fake. 712 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,176 There is a lot of things that can't be explained. 713 00:38:31,276 --> 00:38:33,479 And I just think this is one of them. 714 00:38:33,579 --> 00:38:35,080 I know I can't explain how somebody 715 00:38:35,180 --> 00:38:39,918 came out in my picture that wasn't there when I snapped it. 716 00:38:40,018 --> 00:38:42,388 ROBERT STACK: The Kelseys insist they have never photographed 717 00:38:42,488 --> 00:38:44,390 their television screen. 718 00:38:44,490 --> 00:38:48,126 Could the picture be a simple accident, even a hoax? 719 00:38:48,226 --> 00:38:51,530 Or could it really be a ghost? 720 00:38:51,630 --> 00:38:54,800 For 15 months the new tenants of the Fish Springs house 721 00:38:54,900 --> 00:38:57,903 reported nothing out of the ordinary. 722 00:38:58,003 --> 00:39:00,706 But then in October of 1989, the house 723 00:39:00,806 --> 00:39:02,173 was rented to another family. 724 00:39:05,644 --> 00:39:07,546 Steve and Mona Robinson knew nothing 725 00:39:07,646 --> 00:39:09,948 about the house's ghostly past. 726 00:39:10,048 --> 00:39:12,017 Soon, however, the Robinson family 727 00:39:12,117 --> 00:39:15,053 was caught up in the middle of it's very own ghost story. 728 00:39:17,923 --> 00:39:19,591 I felt that there was ghosts in the house, 729 00:39:19,691 --> 00:39:22,027 but then I kept telling myself no. 730 00:39:22,127 --> 00:39:26,364 And things started happening more and more, 731 00:39:26,465 --> 00:39:29,401 the footsteps, the bangs. 732 00:39:29,501 --> 00:39:33,138 I'd bring it up to Steve once in a while, 733 00:39:33,238 --> 00:39:37,876 and he would say, no, there's got to be some reason why 734 00:39:37,976 --> 00:39:38,977 all this is happening. 735 00:39:39,077 --> 00:39:39,978 It's an old house. 736 00:39:42,581 --> 00:39:44,082 We even thought about pipes. 737 00:39:44,182 --> 00:39:47,953 We thought of all kinds of things. 738 00:39:48,053 --> 00:39:50,155 ROBERT STACK: The Robinsons became extremely concerned 739 00:39:50,255 --> 00:39:52,591 when their 11-year-old son, Garrett, began to have 740 00:39:52,691 --> 00:39:54,125 frightening experiences. 741 00:39:58,930 --> 00:40:04,570 I started hearing noises upstairs like it was walking, 742 00:40:04,670 --> 00:40:05,637 bangings, and stuff. 743 00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:11,943 After I heard the laughing, I went up to the top 744 00:40:12,043 --> 00:40:14,179 of the stairs by myself. 745 00:40:14,279 --> 00:40:16,715 I was scared though because I heard all these footsteps 746 00:40:16,815 --> 00:40:19,217 [inaudible]. 747 00:40:19,317 --> 00:40:25,624 And there was a whole bunch of walking around [inaudible] 748 00:40:25,724 --> 00:40:26,525 while I was upstairs. 749 00:40:29,961 --> 00:40:35,801 Then I started hearing humming, three different like voices, 750 00:40:35,901 --> 00:40:38,303 a higher one, [inaudible]. 751 00:40:41,873 --> 00:40:44,175 I then ran out the door. 752 00:40:44,275 --> 00:40:47,879 When I got out, when I was inside my driveway, 753 00:40:47,979 --> 00:40:50,582 there was all this banging of the screen door. 754 00:40:53,519 --> 00:40:57,556 And then for some reason, I looked over to the window 755 00:40:57,656 --> 00:41:03,629 and I saw this old guy and he had this grin on his face, 756 00:41:03,729 --> 00:41:06,297 a smirky grin, not like a real mean one, 757 00:41:06,397 --> 00:41:07,599 like he was trying to be mean. 758 00:41:10,235 --> 00:41:12,871 ROBERT STACK: Six-year-old Miles was the next child to fall 759 00:41:12,971 --> 00:41:16,207 under the spell of the house. 760 00:41:16,307 --> 00:41:21,379 I remember one night I was getting lifted out of bed. 761 00:41:21,479 --> 00:41:25,316 Got lifted up pretty high. 762 00:41:25,416 --> 00:41:32,090 And I didn't know what was happening. 763 00:41:32,190 --> 00:41:35,861 I just got lifted up. 764 00:41:35,961 --> 00:41:38,864 Well I had told my husband then that I 765 00:41:38,964 --> 00:41:40,999 didn't want to live there. 766 00:41:41,099 --> 00:41:45,336 And he said, well, he goes, they're not going to hurt us. 767 00:41:45,436 --> 00:41:46,237 He wasn't afraid. 768 00:41:50,141 --> 00:41:51,810 ROBERT STACK: Finally, Mona Robinson 769 00:41:51,910 --> 00:41:54,946 reached the end of her rope. 770 00:41:55,046 --> 00:41:57,983 My husband and I were getting ready to go to bed 771 00:41:58,083 --> 00:42:00,118 and I couldn't sleep. 772 00:42:00,218 --> 00:42:03,388 And I could hear bangs in the hallway, 773 00:42:03,488 --> 00:42:05,857 like coming down the stairs. 774 00:42:05,957 --> 00:42:09,695 Then all of a sudden I heard, right behind my bed, 775 00:42:09,795 --> 00:42:12,530 in a man's voice called me a bitch. 776 00:42:17,603 --> 00:42:24,943 It was a bad voice, mad, angry. 777 00:42:25,043 --> 00:42:29,147 I thought, you know, that she was going nuts. 778 00:42:29,247 --> 00:42:34,686 But at the same time, I believed her. 779 00:42:34,786 --> 00:42:36,588 She refused to go to bed. 780 00:42:36,688 --> 00:42:39,090 She was always afraid that once we got in the bed, 781 00:42:39,190 --> 00:42:41,026 the noises would start. 782 00:42:41,126 --> 00:42:44,663 So she'd stay up all night long. 783 00:42:44,763 --> 00:42:48,499 I felt like they were trying to drive me crazy. 784 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:53,672 I would never believe anybody that told me what has happened 785 00:42:53,772 --> 00:42:58,309 to me, I wouldn't believe them. 786 00:42:58,409 --> 00:43:01,012 I do believe now, because we had it happen to us. 787 00:43:01,112 --> 00:43:03,749 You never believe anything like that until it happens to you. 788 00:43:07,018 --> 00:43:10,021 ROBERT STACK: January 31, 1990, the Robinsons moved 789 00:43:10,121 --> 00:43:14,693 out of the house, less than four months after they had moved in. 790 00:43:14,793 --> 00:43:16,828 The Kelseys, who still owned the house once 791 00:43:16,928 --> 00:43:19,464 again called in Daniel Martin. 792 00:43:19,564 --> 00:43:22,668 Once again, he put himself into a trance. 793 00:43:22,768 --> 00:43:25,704 Once again he claimed he met ghosts, 794 00:43:25,804 --> 00:43:27,405 this time different ones. 795 00:43:33,211 --> 00:43:35,346 That time I encountered three entities, 796 00:43:35,446 --> 00:43:37,949 two men and one woman. 797 00:43:38,049 --> 00:43:40,786 My first impressions when I approached these entities 798 00:43:40,886 --> 00:43:43,388 were that they were of the Virginia City era 799 00:43:43,488 --> 00:43:45,724 back in the old days. 800 00:43:45,824 --> 00:43:47,893 These entities were not destructive, 801 00:43:47,993 --> 00:43:49,761 they were just cantankerous, kind 802 00:43:49,861 --> 00:43:53,431 of a rowdy little gang of troublemakers, 803 00:43:53,531 --> 00:43:56,668 had been and still was. 804 00:43:56,768 --> 00:43:57,803 ROBERT STACK: Martin says he asked 805 00:43:57,903 --> 00:43:59,537 the spirits to leave the house. 806 00:43:59,637 --> 00:44:02,540 But it was too late to do the Robinson any good. 807 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,143 They were already settled in a new home, 808 00:44:05,243 --> 00:44:07,779 far away from hauntings and poltergeists. 809 00:44:11,082 --> 00:44:13,752 To most of us, this saga sounds incredible. 810 00:44:13,852 --> 00:44:15,420 But the Kelseys and the Robinsons 811 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,488 take it very seriously. 812 00:44:17,588 --> 00:44:19,490 It is interesting to note that last year, 813 00:44:19,590 --> 00:44:21,026 the Kelseys sold the house to a couple 814 00:44:21,126 --> 00:44:23,394 with two children, who bought with full knowledge 815 00:44:23,494 --> 00:44:25,897 of the stories of spirits and haunting. 816 00:44:25,997 --> 00:44:28,099 The new owners have been in the home for eight months 817 00:44:28,199 --> 00:44:31,002 and have reported no unusual phenomena. 818 00:44:31,102 --> 00:44:33,271 Perhaps ghosts, like many other things 819 00:44:33,371 --> 00:44:36,441 exist only in the eyes of the beholder, perhaps. 820 00:44:46,584 --> 00:44:50,121 On our next 'Unsolved Mysteries," for a lonely widow, 821 00:44:50,221 --> 00:44:53,458 Eric Kessler is like a dream come true, charming, elegant, 822 00:44:53,558 --> 00:44:55,861 and cosmopolitan, he has the perfect qualities 823 00:44:55,961 --> 00:44:59,530 for a potential husband and a master con man. 824 00:44:59,630 --> 00:45:01,032 His elaborate schemes have allegedly 825 00:45:01,132 --> 00:45:05,636 netted more than $150,000 from at least four vulnerable women. 826 00:45:05,737 --> 00:45:07,773 Authorities are convinced that his list of victims 827 00:45:07,873 --> 00:45:11,810 is much longer and still growing. 828 00:45:11,910 --> 00:45:15,213 Join me for our next edition of "Unsolved Mysteries." 829 00:45:21,619 --> 00:45:23,955 [music playing] 66453

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