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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,705 --> 00:00:07,308 NARRATOR: This program is about unsolved mysteries. 2 00:00:07,408 --> 00:00:09,410 Whenever possible, the actual family members 3 00:00:09,510 --> 00:00:11,379 and police officials have participated 4 00:00:11,479 --> 00:00:12,913 in recreating the events. 5 00:00:13,013 --> 00:00:16,084 What you are about to see is not a news broadcast. 6 00:00:16,184 --> 00:00:18,452 [music playing] 7 00:00:20,321 --> 00:00:21,789 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In Rome, New York two 8 00:00:21,889 --> 00:00:24,225 intruders bound and gagged Esther Gryzeic, 9 00:00:24,325 --> 00:00:27,628 ransacked her house, and shot her husband point blank. 10 00:00:27,728 --> 00:00:29,697 Just recently, a police informant 11 00:00:29,797 --> 00:00:32,600 revealed that Stanley Gryzeic may have died because he 12 00:00:32,700 --> 00:00:35,669 was a man who knew too much. 13 00:00:35,769 --> 00:00:38,639 The FBI is searching for an electronics whiz kid who 14 00:00:38,739 --> 00:00:40,374 allegedly used his talents to break 15 00:00:40,474 --> 00:00:43,111 into classified government computer networks, 16 00:00:43,211 --> 00:00:46,680 obtain military secrets, and wiretap private. 17 00:00:46,780 --> 00:00:49,783 An innocuous case of computer hacking or a breach 18 00:00:49,883 --> 00:00:51,985 of national security? 19 00:00:52,086 --> 00:00:54,222 Also tonight, a poignant update a story 20 00:00:54,322 --> 00:00:57,358 about a 7-year-old girl who made a solemn vow to her sick friend 21 00:00:57,458 --> 00:00:59,960 21 years ago. 22 00:01:00,060 --> 00:01:01,429 Thanks to our viewers, Niki Crowder 23 00:01:01,529 --> 00:01:03,197 has finally fulfilled her promise 24 00:01:03,297 --> 00:01:05,599 and we filmed their joyous reunion. 25 00:01:05,699 --> 00:01:09,403 Join me for another edition of Unsolved Mysteries. 26 00:01:09,503 --> 00:01:12,873 [music playing] 27 00:02:02,490 --> 00:02:04,958 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Rome, New York, 240 miles northwest 28 00:02:05,058 --> 00:02:08,329 of Manhattan. 29 00:02:08,429 --> 00:02:10,431 This is the kind of small town that finds its way 30 00:02:10,531 --> 00:02:12,266 into Norman Rockwell paintings. 31 00:02:15,369 --> 00:02:17,538 It is a working class community where everybody 32 00:02:17,638 --> 00:02:20,408 knows everything about everyone else, 33 00:02:20,508 --> 00:02:21,942 or at least it seemed that way. 34 00:02:22,042 --> 00:02:22,876 Bob, how are you? 35 00:02:22,976 --> 00:02:25,145 Stanley, so nice to see you. 36 00:02:25,246 --> 00:02:26,514 Haven't seen you in so long. 37 00:02:26,614 --> 00:02:29,350 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In 1957 to 1976, 38 00:02:29,450 --> 00:02:31,385 Stanley Gryzeic and his family owned 39 00:02:31,485 --> 00:02:35,389 a small liquor store and gas station in the heart of town. 40 00:02:35,489 --> 00:02:37,725 Stanley was in charge of the liquor store. 41 00:02:37,825 --> 00:02:39,793 His brother Peter ran the gas station along 42 00:02:39,893 --> 00:02:40,894 with a third brother Bernard. 43 00:02:44,198 --> 00:02:46,434 Stanley and his wife Esther lived right next door 44 00:02:46,534 --> 00:02:48,035 to the family business. 45 00:02:48,135 --> 00:02:51,071 Their life seemed happy and secure until the night 46 00:02:51,171 --> 00:02:56,009 of November 6th, 1976. 47 00:02:56,109 --> 00:02:57,911 SHARON MIGLIACCIO (VOICEOVER): Dad had just gone upstairs 48 00:02:58,011 --> 00:02:59,747 to run Mom's bathwater. 49 00:03:04,051 --> 00:03:08,622 Mom went through the house doing her nightly check. 50 00:03:08,722 --> 00:03:11,191 She did a nightly ritual where she would go and check 51 00:03:11,292 --> 00:03:12,993 all the windows and doors and make sure everything 52 00:03:13,093 --> 00:03:14,995 was locked. 53 00:03:15,095 --> 00:03:17,498 My mother was deaf, and she wore a hearing aid. 54 00:03:17,598 --> 00:03:19,967 With the hearing aid, she could hear very well. 55 00:03:20,067 --> 00:03:21,769 And she had just finished in the kitchen 56 00:03:21,869 --> 00:03:23,203 when she heard a loud noise. 57 00:03:23,304 --> 00:03:24,538 [thump] 58 00:03:24,638 --> 00:03:27,575 And as she turned around, the back door just flew open. 59 00:03:27,675 --> 00:03:28,476 [scream] 60 00:03:28,576 --> 00:03:29,410 This is a robbery! 61 00:03:29,510 --> 00:03:30,844 [grunting, screaming] 62 00:03:30,944 --> 00:03:33,013 Two men came into the house. 63 00:03:33,113 --> 00:03:34,848 They both had ski masks. 64 00:03:34,948 --> 00:03:38,852 One was short and stocky and one was tall and thinner. 65 00:03:38,952 --> 00:03:42,590 I think my father probably heard the initial noise of the screen 66 00:03:42,690 --> 00:03:45,993 door being broken and heard my mother scream, 67 00:03:46,093 --> 00:03:47,461 and then came down the stairs. 68 00:03:47,561 --> 00:03:49,530 [music playing] 69 00:03:49,630 --> 00:03:51,565 As he turned to go into the dining room, 70 00:03:51,665 --> 00:03:53,501 I think he startled the perpetrator. 71 00:03:53,601 --> 00:03:54,402 [grunting] 72 00:03:54,502 --> 00:03:55,736 Hey, give me that! 73 00:03:55,836 --> 00:03:57,204 SHARON MIGLIACCIO (VOICEOVER): The shorter, stockier man 74 00:03:57,305 --> 00:04:00,107 was already at my mother's throat and was choking her 75 00:04:00,207 --> 00:04:05,513 and, in the process, knocked her hearing aid out of her ear. 76 00:04:05,613 --> 00:04:07,415 And she said she just played dead. 77 00:04:07,515 --> 00:04:08,516 She just wouldn't move. 78 00:04:08,616 --> 00:04:10,384 She just laid there. 79 00:04:10,484 --> 00:04:13,554 She tried to hold her breath so they thought she died. 80 00:04:13,654 --> 00:04:16,557 [music playing] 81 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:20,961 SHARON MIGLIACCIO (VOICEOVER): While she was laying 82 00:04:21,061 --> 00:04:23,397 on the floor, she said they laid this pearl 83 00:04:23,497 --> 00:04:25,065 handled gun next to my face. 84 00:04:25,165 --> 00:04:26,500 She says, I could see it. 85 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,603 I opened my eyes just a little tiny bit and I could see. 86 00:04:29,703 --> 00:04:32,473 [music playing] 87 00:04:36,977 --> 00:04:38,779 They spent a good hour in the house 88 00:04:38,879 --> 00:04:41,715 just ransacking it totally. 89 00:04:41,815 --> 00:04:44,117 They took all the stuff out of the desk, 90 00:04:44,217 --> 00:04:46,119 threw everything on the floors. 91 00:04:46,219 --> 00:04:48,989 The pillows they ripped. 92 00:04:49,089 --> 00:04:53,494 Mom's knitting and her yarn, they threw all over. 93 00:04:53,594 --> 00:04:55,128 I mean, they obviously were looking for something, 94 00:04:55,228 --> 00:04:57,498 but what they were looking for, I have no idea. 95 00:04:57,598 --> 00:05:00,267 [music playing] 96 00:05:00,368 --> 00:05:03,337 She said, I just waited there until I could feel no more 97 00:05:03,437 --> 00:05:05,639 vibrations in the house. 98 00:05:05,739 --> 00:05:07,708 She figures that that is when they left. 99 00:05:07,808 --> 00:05:09,810 [crying] 100 00:05:09,910 --> 00:05:13,414 Somehow, she managed to get her hands untied from her feet 101 00:05:13,514 --> 00:05:15,248 and her feet untied. 102 00:05:15,349 --> 00:05:17,385 Her hands were still tied behind her back, 103 00:05:17,485 --> 00:05:20,187 but she did manage to go into the dining room 104 00:05:20,287 --> 00:05:23,023 and find my dad laying on the floor dead. 105 00:05:26,427 --> 00:05:27,761 Oh, God! 106 00:05:27,861 --> 00:05:31,231 [police scanner] 107 00:05:35,469 --> 00:05:36,704 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The shock 108 00:05:36,804 --> 00:05:40,007 of her husband's murder was too much for Esther Gryzeic. 109 00:05:40,107 --> 00:05:43,811 She herself died within two years. 110 00:05:43,911 --> 00:05:45,679 SHARON MIGLIACCIO (VOICEOVER): My mother, you could say, 111 00:05:45,779 --> 00:05:47,314 died that night. 112 00:05:47,415 --> 00:05:52,052 She just existed for the next 20 months. 113 00:05:52,152 --> 00:05:54,688 Her and my father had one of those rare marriages where they 114 00:05:54,788 --> 00:05:58,726 were extremely close, and without dad, I mean, 115 00:05:58,826 --> 00:05:59,627 her life was gone. 116 00:06:03,531 --> 00:06:04,932 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): From the beginning, 117 00:06:05,032 --> 00:06:07,501 a cloud of suspicion loomed over the investigation 118 00:06:07,601 --> 00:06:08,902 of Stanley Gryzeic's murder. 119 00:06:11,639 --> 00:06:14,107 The night of the killing, police barred the family 120 00:06:14,207 --> 00:06:15,208 from entering the home. 121 00:06:17,911 --> 00:06:19,947 After thoroughly searching the ransacked house, 122 00:06:20,047 --> 00:06:22,149 investigators determined that the only things 123 00:06:22,249 --> 00:06:25,252 missing were two bottles of beer from the refrigerator. 124 00:06:27,287 --> 00:06:29,590 But it appeared to investigators 125 00:06:29,690 --> 00:06:34,862 as if the ransacking was to look for an item, possibly, 126 00:06:34,962 --> 00:06:38,866 or a piece of paper that Mr. Gryzeic 127 00:06:38,966 --> 00:06:41,869 may have had hidden somewhere. 128 00:06:41,969 --> 00:06:43,170 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The next day, 129 00:06:43,270 --> 00:06:46,640 the family was finally permitted to enter the home. 130 00:06:46,740 --> 00:06:49,910 Stanley's son made a disturbing discovery, which, curiously, 131 00:06:50,010 --> 00:06:53,280 the police had overlooked. 132 00:06:53,380 --> 00:06:56,016 My brother-in-law and myself were in the house, and we were 133 00:06:56,116 --> 00:06:57,350 trying to straighten things up. 134 00:06:59,987 --> 00:07:02,890 I was in the dining room where my father had been killed, 135 00:07:02,990 --> 00:07:06,694 and the rug was kind of messed up from the table being pushed, 136 00:07:06,794 --> 00:07:08,462 so we got down on our hands and knees 137 00:07:08,562 --> 00:07:10,598 and tried to straighten the rug out. 138 00:07:10,698 --> 00:07:11,499 Hey, come here. 139 00:07:11,599 --> 00:07:12,733 Look at this. 140 00:07:12,833 --> 00:07:14,334 MARTIN GRYZIEC (VOICEOVER): While I was doing that, 141 00:07:14,434 --> 00:07:17,738 I happened to notice a shell casing on the rug. 142 00:07:17,838 --> 00:07:19,807 I mean, it wasn't embedded in the rug or anything. 143 00:07:19,907 --> 00:07:22,142 It was lying right out on the rug. 144 00:07:22,242 --> 00:07:24,177 Well, it's a shell casing. 145 00:07:24,277 --> 00:07:25,278 Don't touch it. 146 00:07:25,378 --> 00:07:28,148 I'm sure that if anybody had done 147 00:07:28,248 --> 00:07:32,620 a thorough job of scouring the floor, 148 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,387 they would have found it. 149 00:07:34,488 --> 00:07:37,891 We picked it up with a pencil, put it in a plastic bag, 150 00:07:37,991 --> 00:07:40,761 and called up the Rome police department. 151 00:07:40,861 --> 00:07:43,664 One detective came over and I showed him where I found it 152 00:07:43,764 --> 00:07:47,735 on the floor, and he looked at it, yeah, 153 00:07:47,835 --> 00:07:49,903 that's a shell casing, all right. 154 00:07:50,003 --> 00:07:52,105 And he proceeded to put it in his pock 155 00:07:52,205 --> 00:07:57,344 and said, let's not mention this to anyone for the time being. 156 00:07:57,444 --> 00:07:59,613 And who was I to argue? 157 00:07:59,713 --> 00:08:02,716 There's a wound here in the lateral aspect 158 00:08:02,816 --> 00:08:05,152 of the left chest. 159 00:08:05,252 --> 00:08:06,920 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The official autopsy report 160 00:08:07,020 --> 00:08:10,290 stated that Stanley Gryzeic been killed by a single stab 161 00:08:10,390 --> 00:08:11,659 wound to the heart. 162 00:08:11,759 --> 00:08:13,326 --extremities are symmetrical. 163 00:08:13,426 --> 00:08:15,328 SHARON MIGLIACCIO (VOICEOVER): I couldn't believe the police 164 00:08:15,428 --> 00:08:17,565 kept insisting that it was a knife that killed my father, 165 00:08:17,665 --> 00:08:19,432 and my mother repeatedly told them 166 00:08:19,533 --> 00:08:21,669 it was a pearl handled gun. 167 00:08:21,769 --> 00:08:23,303 It was a small gun. 168 00:08:23,403 --> 00:08:26,607 She told me they laid it right down next to my face. 169 00:08:26,707 --> 00:08:27,975 She says, I could see. 170 00:08:28,075 --> 00:08:31,679 It was not a knife, and they kept insisting it was a knife. 171 00:08:31,779 --> 00:08:33,681 While we knew that was totally false 172 00:08:33,781 --> 00:08:36,950 that my father had been killed by a stab wound, 173 00:08:37,050 --> 00:08:38,619 we had found a shell casing. 174 00:08:38,719 --> 00:08:45,926 We explained to the police that there was no guns in the house. 175 00:08:46,026 --> 00:08:48,061 The only way that shell could have got here 176 00:08:48,161 --> 00:08:49,529 was that it was fired in this house. 177 00:08:53,567 --> 00:08:54,835 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Stanley 178 00:08:54,935 --> 00:08:59,372 Gryzeic's body was exhumed and a second autopsy performed. 179 00:08:59,472 --> 00:09:02,209 It revealed that Stanley was killed by a .25 caliber 180 00:09:02,309 --> 00:09:05,378 bullet fired through his chest. 181 00:09:05,478 --> 00:09:06,947 There never had been a stab wound. 182 00:09:09,617 --> 00:09:11,985 Was the entire incident involving the bullet simply 183 00:09:12,085 --> 00:09:14,655 a series of unfortunate mistakes, 184 00:09:14,755 --> 00:09:16,523 or could someone have been trying to protect 185 00:09:16,624 --> 00:09:18,926 the killer's identity? 186 00:09:19,026 --> 00:09:21,261 Stanley Gryzeic's children believe that someone wanted 187 00:09:21,361 --> 00:09:24,732 it to appear that their father had been killed with a knife, 188 00:09:24,832 --> 00:09:25,666 but who? 189 00:09:25,766 --> 00:09:27,034 And why? 190 00:09:27,134 --> 00:09:29,336 It seemed that these questions would remain forever 191 00:09:29,436 --> 00:09:31,538 unanswered until last year. 192 00:09:35,575 --> 00:09:38,345 In March of 1989, an acknowledged drug dealer 193 00:09:38,445 --> 00:09:41,381 came to the police with a startling story. 194 00:09:41,481 --> 00:09:44,151 He claimed to know the identity of Stanley Gryzeic's killer, 195 00:09:44,251 --> 00:09:46,586 although he did not know the motive. 196 00:09:46,687 --> 00:09:50,423 In 1976, the informant was working at a bar in Rome. 197 00:09:50,523 --> 00:09:52,359 He claimed that a man associated with the bar 198 00:09:52,459 --> 00:09:55,896 made him a strange proposition just a few days before Stanley 199 00:09:55,996 --> 00:09:58,331 Gryzeic was killed. 200 00:09:58,431 --> 00:10:02,435 I was tending bar one night, and a person 201 00:10:02,535 --> 00:10:06,339 approached me and wanted me to pull a burglary. 202 00:10:06,439 --> 00:10:11,311 He knew that I owed him money, and he offered me to get even. 203 00:10:14,414 --> 00:10:19,720 So, we drove around for a little bit, and he pulled in an alley 204 00:10:19,820 --> 00:10:22,522 here, and he goes, I want you to break into Stan's house. 205 00:10:22,622 --> 00:10:23,556 MAN: You owe me a lot of money. 206 00:10:23,657 --> 00:10:24,658 You owe me a lot of money. 207 00:10:24,758 --> 00:10:25,959 The guy's got a lot of money in that house. 208 00:10:26,059 --> 00:10:27,060 I want you to go rip him off. 209 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,762 Why Stanley? 210 00:10:28,862 --> 00:10:30,297 MAN: That's my business. 211 00:10:30,397 --> 00:10:31,598 INFORMANT (VOICEOVER): I told him I go, 212 00:10:31,699 --> 00:10:33,000 well, I'm not a burglar. 213 00:10:33,100 --> 00:10:39,372 I go, I'm out here selling coke, but I'm just not a burglar. 214 00:10:39,472 --> 00:10:42,676 I'm not going to go breaking in to anybody's house. 215 00:10:42,776 --> 00:10:46,179 And so he was disturbed with me, and he goes, 216 00:10:46,279 --> 00:10:50,283 all right, I'll take you back to the bar. 217 00:10:50,383 --> 00:10:51,651 As you can see As you can see here, 218 00:10:51,752 --> 00:10:54,755 this is the service station that's adjacent to the house. 219 00:10:54,855 --> 00:10:56,623 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Based on this new information, 220 00:10:56,724 --> 00:10:58,759 the case was reactivated and a new team 221 00:10:58,859 --> 00:11:00,027 of investigators assigned. 222 00:11:00,127 --> 00:11:01,594 MAN: --behind here comes out to the side. 223 00:11:01,695 --> 00:11:02,930 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): They contacted 224 00:11:03,030 --> 00:11:04,531 Amy Scott, Stanley Gryzeic's neighbor 225 00:11:04,631 --> 00:11:07,200 at the time of the murder. 226 00:11:07,300 --> 00:11:10,904 On November 6, 1976, Amy Scott said she 227 00:11:11,004 --> 00:11:12,672 was in the house watching TV. 228 00:11:12,773 --> 00:11:15,408 And at the conclusion of one of the programs, 229 00:11:15,508 --> 00:11:19,713 her dog had become restless and she let him out to run 230 00:11:19,813 --> 00:11:21,214 around a little bit outside. 231 00:11:21,314 --> 00:11:23,150 [dog barking] 232 00:11:24,451 --> 00:11:25,352 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Amy told investigators 233 00:11:25,452 --> 00:11:27,487 that shortly after 11:00 PM, she saw 234 00:11:27,587 --> 00:11:30,523 a man walking through the alley toward Stanley Gryzeic's home. 235 00:11:34,094 --> 00:11:38,298 I let my dog stay out maybe a half an hour to 45 minutes, 236 00:11:38,398 --> 00:11:40,367 and then I open the door. 237 00:11:40,467 --> 00:11:42,870 I went on my porch to call my dog back in. 238 00:11:42,970 --> 00:11:44,037 Sam! 239 00:11:44,137 --> 00:11:46,206 Then I looked up and I saw this guy coming 240 00:11:46,306 --> 00:11:48,175 through the same pathway that I noticed 241 00:11:48,275 --> 00:11:53,246 before, only this time he was headed toward a white car. 242 00:11:53,346 --> 00:11:55,482 He got in the car, and then I noticed there 243 00:11:55,582 --> 00:11:57,617 was another man in the car. 244 00:11:57,717 --> 00:11:59,086 And he proceeded down the street very fast. 245 00:11:59,186 --> 00:11:59,987 [tires squealing] 246 00:12:00,087 --> 00:12:00,888 You idiots! 247 00:12:00,988 --> 00:12:02,555 What do think you're doing? 248 00:12:02,655 --> 00:12:05,325 And I yelled at him because he just came within inches 249 00:12:05,425 --> 00:12:06,259 of hitting my dog. 250 00:12:08,728 --> 00:12:10,397 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): A few days after the murder, 251 00:12:10,497 --> 00:12:12,332 Amy saw the men in the Lincoln again. 252 00:12:15,002 --> 00:12:16,436 AMY SCOTT (VOICEOVER): It was around 5 o'clock, 253 00:12:16,536 --> 00:12:18,571 and I was headed to the bank. 254 00:12:18,671 --> 00:12:21,274 As I drove in, there was two cars ahead of me 255 00:12:21,374 --> 00:12:24,677 and I was waiting, and I just happened 256 00:12:24,778 --> 00:12:26,780 to look through my rear view mirror, 257 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,383 and I saw this white car. 258 00:12:30,483 --> 00:12:34,187 And suddenly I realized this was the same man, 259 00:12:34,287 --> 00:12:40,193 the same car, that I had seen earlier at the murder scene. 260 00:12:40,293 --> 00:12:44,264 I got really nervous, so I started my car 261 00:12:44,364 --> 00:12:46,166 and I speeded down the street. 262 00:12:46,266 --> 00:12:49,669 [music playing] 263 00:12:52,239 --> 00:12:55,108 I was really afraid. 264 00:12:55,208 --> 00:12:58,578 I just drove like crazy until I got to the police station 265 00:12:58,678 --> 00:12:59,880 and I jumped out of the car. 266 00:12:59,980 --> 00:13:03,183 [music playing] 267 00:13:05,618 --> 00:13:08,255 And I ran up the steps, where I met a policeman, 268 00:13:08,355 --> 00:13:10,690 and I told him what was happening. 269 00:13:10,790 --> 00:13:14,427 We got in his car and we drove around a couple of blocks 270 00:13:14,527 --> 00:13:19,032 up and down, but we never saw him again. 271 00:13:19,132 --> 00:13:21,034 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Amy led the investigators to Patsy 272 00:13:21,134 --> 00:13:23,837 Peck, a local bookstore owner. 273 00:13:23,937 --> 00:13:26,539 Patsy told him that on the day before Gryzeic's murder, 274 00:13:26,639 --> 00:13:29,142 she had met the same two men at her store. 275 00:13:29,242 --> 00:13:31,078 [interposing voices] 276 00:13:31,178 --> 00:13:34,647 She also said they were driving a white Lincoln Continental. 277 00:13:34,747 --> 00:13:35,648 Hey guys, how are you doing? 278 00:13:35,748 --> 00:13:36,583 Good. 279 00:13:36,683 --> 00:13:38,218 - Good to see you again. - Thanks. 280 00:13:38,318 --> 00:13:39,486 How are you? - Good. 281 00:13:39,586 --> 00:13:40,753 What are you doing down here anyway? 282 00:13:40,854 --> 00:13:41,855 PATSY PECK (VOICEOVER): There was 283 00:13:41,955 --> 00:13:44,657 the tall, dark man who had on a trench coat 284 00:13:44,757 --> 00:13:47,327 and it had a nylon pile collar. 285 00:13:47,427 --> 00:13:51,164 The other man was shorter and sandy haired, 286 00:13:51,264 --> 00:13:52,866 and they'd been out of town for a while, 287 00:13:52,966 --> 00:13:54,501 and hadn't seen my husband in quite a long while. 288 00:13:54,601 --> 00:13:55,768 - See you later. - OK, good seeing you again. 289 00:13:55,869 --> 00:13:57,037 PATSY PECK: Thanks. 290 00:13:57,137 --> 00:14:00,040 Then they started reminiscing a little about when they 291 00:14:00,140 --> 00:14:02,242 were here before and all that. 292 00:14:02,342 --> 00:14:03,510 All right. 293 00:14:03,610 --> 00:14:04,577 You know where we live, we're still in the same place. 294 00:14:04,677 --> 00:14:05,778 PATSY PECK (VOICEOVER): And they told him 295 00:14:05,879 --> 00:14:07,080 they'd see again before they left, and they left. 296 00:14:09,816 --> 00:14:11,118 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Investigators 297 00:14:11,218 --> 00:14:13,887 asked Patsy why she had not come forward with this information 298 00:14:13,987 --> 00:14:15,022 before. 299 00:14:15,122 --> 00:14:17,390 Surprisingly, she said she had talked with one 300 00:14:17,490 --> 00:14:18,491 of the original detectives. 301 00:14:18,591 --> 00:14:20,460 --store on November the 4th. 302 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,695 JOHN KEYS (VOICEOVER): We do know that the investigators 303 00:14:22,795 --> 00:14:26,499 talked to Patsy and Amy, but we looked in our files 304 00:14:26,599 --> 00:14:29,136 and found that there wasn't anything put 305 00:14:29,236 --> 00:14:32,639 down on documentation form as to their interview with Patsy 306 00:14:32,739 --> 00:14:34,207 Peck. 307 00:14:34,307 --> 00:14:36,109 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Investigators Saunders and Keys 308 00:14:36,209 --> 00:14:38,545 learned that shortly after Stanley Gryzeic's murder, 309 00:14:38,645 --> 00:14:42,749 the same two men were spotted at a local bar. 310 00:14:42,849 --> 00:14:46,586 We located a man that was in the bar about two or three 311 00:14:46,686 --> 00:14:49,756 nights after the murder. 312 00:14:49,856 --> 00:14:50,991 Everything all right? 313 00:14:51,091 --> 00:14:51,891 Yep. 314 00:14:51,992 --> 00:14:53,893 Just what you wanted. 315 00:14:53,994 --> 00:14:55,895 ROBERT SAUNDERS (VOICEOVER): He told us that a couple of men 316 00:14:55,996 --> 00:14:58,031 had come into the bar matching the descriptions that 317 00:14:58,131 --> 00:15:01,301 were published in the paper. 318 00:15:01,401 --> 00:15:02,735 They met with another man in the back 319 00:15:02,835 --> 00:15:07,807 of the bar who handed them a large sum of money, 320 00:15:07,907 --> 00:15:10,944 and they turned and left. 321 00:15:11,044 --> 00:15:13,981 He was kind of curious, so he said, wasn't that so-and-so? 322 00:15:14,081 --> 00:15:17,017 And the individual who had given him the money 323 00:15:17,117 --> 00:15:19,419 said, yes, that was. 324 00:15:19,519 --> 00:15:22,522 And he said, well, why did you give 325 00:15:22,622 --> 00:15:23,856 him that large amount of money? 326 00:15:23,957 --> 00:15:25,292 And he said they done a job for me 327 00:15:25,392 --> 00:15:27,995 and now they had to leave town. 328 00:15:28,095 --> 00:15:29,329 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Authorities 329 00:15:29,429 --> 00:15:31,999 began searching for a connection between Stanley Gryzeic's 330 00:15:32,099 --> 00:15:34,567 murder and the bar where the informant had worked 331 00:15:34,667 --> 00:15:38,238 and the two men had been seen. 332 00:15:38,338 --> 00:15:39,706 They discovered that the bar's liquor 333 00:15:39,806 --> 00:15:41,674 license had been held by Peter Gryzeic, 334 00:15:41,774 --> 00:15:44,177 Stanley's older brother. 335 00:15:44,277 --> 00:15:46,879 Then Stanley's children related a puzzling incident 336 00:15:46,980 --> 00:15:50,783 that had occurred eight months before the murder. 337 00:15:50,883 --> 00:15:55,755 Peter Gryzeic was gravely ill and Stanley went to visit him. 338 00:15:55,855 --> 00:15:56,889 Close the door, will you? 339 00:15:56,990 --> 00:15:57,790 Close the door. 340 00:15:57,890 --> 00:15:58,925 Close the door? 341 00:15:59,026 --> 00:16:00,193 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): No one knows 342 00:16:00,293 --> 00:16:02,129 what was said behind that closed door, 343 00:16:02,229 --> 00:16:04,597 but the two brothers, who had always been close, 344 00:16:04,697 --> 00:16:06,866 never spoke again. 345 00:16:06,966 --> 00:16:10,137 Peter died four months later, and Stanley's behavior 346 00:16:10,237 --> 00:16:11,038 seemed to change. 347 00:16:12,905 --> 00:16:14,607 PATRICIA COUSIN (VOICEOVER): I had a three-day weekend 348 00:16:14,707 --> 00:16:16,676 with my dad. 349 00:16:16,776 --> 00:16:21,748 He seemed in a good mood, but he seemed a little distant. 350 00:16:21,848 --> 00:16:25,152 When he hugged me goodbye, he said a very strange thing. 351 00:16:25,252 --> 00:16:27,720 I don't know when I'll ever see you again. 352 00:16:27,820 --> 00:16:29,956 And that was the last time I saw him again. 353 00:16:32,225 --> 00:16:34,127 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The bar in question had its liquor 354 00:16:34,227 --> 00:16:37,264 license revoked in 1982. 355 00:16:37,364 --> 00:16:38,665 The reason? 356 00:16:38,765 --> 00:16:43,103 On-site gambling and the illegal sale of controlled substances. 357 00:16:43,203 --> 00:16:46,206 Today, the bar remains closed. 358 00:16:46,306 --> 00:16:47,407 PATRICIA COUSIN (VOICEOVER): I think 359 00:16:47,507 --> 00:16:50,210 he knew that there was a great deal of drug 360 00:16:50,310 --> 00:16:53,613 activity happening in that bar. 361 00:16:53,713 --> 00:16:56,316 Gambling, it happens almost everywhere. 362 00:16:56,416 --> 00:16:59,819 I think people learn to adjust to that. 363 00:16:59,919 --> 00:17:03,556 But the drug situation, I know that my father 364 00:17:03,656 --> 00:17:09,862 would never be able to condone or have his name linked to it. 365 00:17:09,962 --> 00:17:12,199 [music playing] 366 00:17:14,167 --> 00:17:16,303 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Why was Stanley Gryzeic murdered? 367 00:17:16,403 --> 00:17:18,438 Had he learned something from his dying brother 368 00:17:18,538 --> 00:17:19,972 that put his own life at risk? 369 00:17:22,675 --> 00:17:24,977 If my father knew something, he 370 00:17:25,078 --> 00:17:28,081 did not share that information with my mother, my brother, 371 00:17:28,181 --> 00:17:30,517 my sister, or I. It was just something 372 00:17:30,617 --> 00:17:33,486 that he kept to himself. 373 00:17:33,586 --> 00:17:37,857 And that was why being honest as he was the cause of his death. 374 00:17:40,427 --> 00:17:42,129 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Why did Stanley's assailants 375 00:17:42,229 --> 00:17:45,565 ransack his home, remain in the house for 45 minutes 376 00:17:45,665 --> 00:17:48,968 to an hour, and then leave, apparently taking only two 377 00:17:49,068 --> 00:17:51,838 beers from the refrigerator? 378 00:17:51,938 --> 00:17:53,940 And finally, is there a connection 379 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,043 between the bar, Peter Gryzeic, and Stanley's death? 380 00:18:00,180 --> 00:18:01,714 Although crucial evidence in the case 381 00:18:01,814 --> 00:18:04,217 has mysteriously disappeared, investigators 382 00:18:04,317 --> 00:18:06,686 believe that it may take but one vital clue 383 00:18:06,786 --> 00:18:08,588 to piece together the bizarre puzzle 384 00:18:08,688 --> 00:18:11,758 of Stanley Gryzeic's murder. 385 00:18:11,858 --> 00:18:14,527 These are composite drawings of the two men seen driving 386 00:18:14,627 --> 00:18:16,596 that white Lincoln Continental. 387 00:18:16,696 --> 00:18:19,399 Authorities are asking anyone with information regarding 388 00:18:19,499 --> 00:18:21,033 these men to come forward. 389 00:18:21,134 --> 00:18:24,471 [music playing] 390 00:18:31,077 --> 00:18:31,878 WOMAN: Oh! 391 00:18:31,978 --> 00:18:32,979 Traveled all over the country. 392 00:18:33,079 --> 00:18:34,181 WOMAN: Well, how about-- 393 00:18:34,281 --> 00:18:35,515 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): On a previous broadcast, 394 00:18:35,615 --> 00:18:37,049 we profiled a con man who allegedly 395 00:18:37,150 --> 00:18:39,919 seduces lonely middle-aged women with promises 396 00:18:40,019 --> 00:18:43,256 of wealth and romance, then skips town with her money. 397 00:18:43,356 --> 00:18:45,825 Police have dubbed him the sweetheart swindler. 398 00:18:45,925 --> 00:18:48,027 [music playing] 399 00:18:49,496 --> 00:18:53,166 In August of 1989, a woman who asked that we call her Sarah 400 00:18:53,266 --> 00:18:55,302 met a man named Jerry Gable. 401 00:18:55,402 --> 00:18:58,705 Sarah quickly succumbed to Jerry's hypnotic charms. 402 00:18:58,805 --> 00:19:01,208 He told her that he was a successful traveling jewelry 403 00:19:01,308 --> 00:19:03,710 salesman, and that she was just the type of a woman he 404 00:19:03,810 --> 00:19:05,478 wanted to share his life with. 405 00:19:05,578 --> 00:19:09,816 In less than two days, Jerry asked Sarah to be his wife. 406 00:19:09,916 --> 00:19:12,885 He was a type of a man that took control. 407 00:19:12,985 --> 00:19:14,153 This was something that I liked. 408 00:19:14,254 --> 00:19:17,357 I like someone to kind of take over, take charge. 409 00:19:17,457 --> 00:19:19,659 And it was really nice to think that I maybe 410 00:19:19,759 --> 00:19:23,029 would be able to relax, to travel, 411 00:19:23,129 --> 00:19:25,765 to have all these nice things, and I wouldn't have to work. 412 00:19:25,865 --> 00:19:28,167 To me this was very appealing. 413 00:19:28,268 --> 00:19:30,570 [music playing] 414 00:19:30,670 --> 00:19:31,771 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): A few days 415 00:19:31,871 --> 00:19:35,342 later, Jerry asked Sarah to deposit an out-of-state 416 00:19:35,442 --> 00:19:38,411 and to withdraw $3,000 in cash for him. 417 00:19:41,348 --> 00:19:44,751 At the time, Sarah had no idea that the check was stolen. 418 00:19:44,851 --> 00:19:47,587 That afternoon, Jerry Gable disappeared. 419 00:19:47,687 --> 00:19:53,360 Sarah never saw him or her $3,000 again. 420 00:19:53,460 --> 00:19:54,627 I was angry. 421 00:19:54,727 --> 00:19:56,363 Truly, I was angry. 422 00:19:56,463 --> 00:19:58,465 It's a very devastating feeling. 423 00:19:58,565 --> 00:20:00,567 I'd like to see him pay for it. 424 00:20:00,667 --> 00:20:02,569 [music playing] 425 00:20:02,669 --> 00:20:03,670 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Update. 426 00:20:03,770 --> 00:20:06,072 The sweetheart swindler has been captured. 427 00:20:06,172 --> 00:20:09,909 On March 28th, 1991, police in Kenosha, Wisconsin 428 00:20:10,009 --> 00:20:12,712 arrested a man calling himself Robert Cook 429 00:20:12,812 --> 00:20:15,715 after he allegedly romanced a woman and then swindled her out 430 00:20:15,815 --> 00:20:19,519 of $10,000. 431 00:20:19,619 --> 00:20:21,254 At the time of Cook's arrest, police 432 00:20:21,354 --> 00:20:23,423 recovered a dozen false identification 433 00:20:23,523 --> 00:20:27,193 cards all issued in different aliases from various states. 434 00:20:27,294 --> 00:20:29,262 They also found blank checks apparently 435 00:20:29,362 --> 00:20:31,298 stolen from previous victims. 436 00:20:31,398 --> 00:20:34,301 [music playing] 437 00:20:47,347 --> 00:20:50,683 When we return, the intriguing saga of a young computer 438 00:20:50,783 --> 00:20:52,819 wizard who may be using his skills 439 00:20:52,919 --> 00:20:55,288 to obtain classified government information. 440 00:20:55,388 --> 00:20:58,224 [music playing] 441 00:21:05,665 --> 00:21:07,467 Inside the labyrinth of the telephone 442 00:21:07,567 --> 00:21:09,902 company's huge computer system, one feels 443 00:21:10,002 --> 00:21:12,805 a sense of insignificance. 444 00:21:12,905 --> 00:21:15,274 It seems impossible that any single person 445 00:21:15,375 --> 00:21:19,746 could jam up these sophisticated works, yet think of it. 446 00:21:19,846 --> 00:21:22,349 All the interactive computers across the country 447 00:21:22,449 --> 00:21:24,684 are linked by telephone lines. 448 00:21:24,784 --> 00:21:27,053 Both private citizens and classified government 449 00:21:27,153 --> 00:21:31,624 operations can be vulnerable to a computer genius run amok. 450 00:21:31,724 --> 00:21:34,327 [music playing] 451 00:21:35,495 --> 00:21:37,163 Kevin Poulsen grew up in the Los Angeles 452 00:21:37,263 --> 00:21:39,632 suburb of North Hollywood. 453 00:21:39,732 --> 00:21:42,469 His mother died when he was still young. 454 00:21:42,569 --> 00:21:44,170 One of Kevin's friends describes him 455 00:21:44,270 --> 00:21:46,839 as very bright with great potential, 456 00:21:46,939 --> 00:21:49,008 but always painfully shy. 457 00:21:49,108 --> 00:21:51,744 [music playing] 458 00:21:54,146 --> 00:21:58,518 Kevin Poulsen received his first computer on the 16th birthday. 459 00:21:58,618 --> 00:22:02,288 Like most devoted hackers, he adopted a colorful pseudonym. 460 00:22:02,389 --> 00:22:04,857 Kevin Poulsen became Dark Dante. 461 00:22:04,957 --> 00:22:08,094 [music playing] 462 00:22:10,029 --> 00:22:11,631 Eventually, he discovered a telephone 463 00:22:11,731 --> 00:22:16,035 number for ARPANET, a computer network funded by the Pentagon. 464 00:22:16,135 --> 00:22:18,738 It links university and think tank computers across 465 00:22:18,838 --> 00:22:20,773 the country by telephone lines. 466 00:22:20,873 --> 00:22:24,711 For Dark Dante, ARPANET was a tantalizing challenge. 467 00:22:27,580 --> 00:22:30,383 After connecting his modem with the ARPANET telephone number, 468 00:22:30,483 --> 00:22:33,119 Kevin realized he was hooked up to military research 469 00:22:33,219 --> 00:22:35,588 at the University of California Berkeley. 470 00:22:35,688 --> 00:22:38,425 [music playing] 471 00:22:38,525 --> 00:22:39,926 He needed a password that would allow 472 00:22:40,026 --> 00:22:41,794 him access to sensitive documents 473 00:22:41,894 --> 00:22:44,063 in the Berkeley computer. 474 00:22:44,163 --> 00:22:46,666 He guessed several passwords with no luck. 475 00:22:46,766 --> 00:22:49,268 [music playing] 476 00:22:49,368 --> 00:22:53,139 Then he tried the university's initials, UCB. 477 00:22:53,239 --> 00:22:55,542 Kevin was inside ARPANET. 478 00:22:55,642 --> 00:22:57,910 [music playing] 479 00:22:59,446 --> 00:23:02,214 SEAN RANDOL (VOICEOVER): He liked the idea of having power. 480 00:23:02,314 --> 00:23:04,717 That was Kevin's thing. 481 00:23:04,817 --> 00:23:07,920 He wanted to have power over other people, 482 00:23:08,020 --> 00:23:10,890 over the people that he saw as being beneath him. 483 00:23:12,925 --> 00:23:14,461 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Dark Dante's activities 484 00:23:14,561 --> 00:23:18,565 were soon detected by UCB, when Kevin slipped and, on one 485 00:23:18,665 --> 00:23:21,968 occasion only, used his real name instead of Dark Dante 486 00:23:22,068 --> 00:23:23,369 he was trapped. 487 00:23:23,470 --> 00:23:25,805 Blissfully unaware, Kevin continued his hacking 488 00:23:25,905 --> 00:23:27,707 activities, giving authorities even 489 00:23:27,807 --> 00:23:29,408 more ammunition against him. 490 00:23:32,111 --> 00:23:34,046 Dan, would you just put that in my car, please. 491 00:23:34,146 --> 00:23:35,281 Well, you're taking my computer? 492 00:23:35,381 --> 00:23:36,348 Yes, Kevin. 493 00:23:36,449 --> 00:23:37,517 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): On the morning 494 00:23:37,617 --> 00:23:40,152 of September 22nd, 1983, the Los Angeles DA 495 00:23:40,252 --> 00:23:41,921 confiscated Kevin's computer. - I don't understand why. 496 00:23:42,021 --> 00:23:43,055 Look, Kevin. 497 00:23:43,155 --> 00:23:44,991 You and your buddy have committed a crime here. 498 00:23:45,091 --> 00:23:46,125 You're only 17. 499 00:23:46,225 --> 00:23:47,326 We're going to try to keep you out of this, 500 00:23:47,426 --> 00:23:48,495 but your buddy's going to jail. 501 00:23:48,595 --> 00:23:49,896 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Because of his age, 502 00:23:49,996 --> 00:23:52,499 he was not officially charged, only warned that his computer 503 00:23:52,599 --> 00:23:53,966 activities were illegal. 504 00:23:54,066 --> 00:23:54,967 Your buddy is going to jail. 505 00:23:55,067 --> 00:23:55,802 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The warning 506 00:23:55,902 --> 00:23:56,936 apparently fell on deaf ears. 507 00:23:57,036 --> 00:23:58,004 It's not like we were stealing or anything. 508 00:23:58,104 --> 00:23:59,371 No, it's exactly like you were stealing. 509 00:23:59,472 --> 00:24:00,940 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): During the next year, 510 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,375 Kevin took a high school equivalency exam 511 00:24:03,476 --> 00:24:06,312 and moved out of his parents' house to northern California. 512 00:24:06,412 --> 00:24:09,749 [music playing] 513 00:24:09,849 --> 00:24:12,519 But Dark Dante had not died with Kevin's move. 514 00:24:12,619 --> 00:24:15,688 He had simply changed locations. 515 00:24:15,788 --> 00:24:18,024 In his off hours, Kevin Poulsen continued 516 00:24:18,124 --> 00:24:19,792 to cruise the electronic highways, 517 00:24:19,892 --> 00:24:22,094 cloaked with a pseudonym. 518 00:24:22,194 --> 00:24:25,297 This time, he never gave his real name or his location. 519 00:24:25,397 --> 00:24:28,535 [music playing] 520 00:24:31,437 --> 00:24:35,307 On February 9th, 1988, the owners of a storage facility 521 00:24:35,407 --> 00:24:37,610 in northern California made a routine stop 522 00:24:37,710 --> 00:24:40,980 at a locker of which the rent had not been paid. 523 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,349 MAN: There we go. 524 00:24:43,449 --> 00:24:44,483 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Standard 525 00:24:44,584 --> 00:24:46,686 procedure in such cases is to confiscate 526 00:24:46,786 --> 00:24:47,820 the material in the locker. 527 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,188 Whoa! 528 00:24:49,288 --> 00:24:50,623 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): But the contents of this locker 529 00:24:50,723 --> 00:24:53,159 was something the men had never seen before. 530 00:24:53,259 --> 00:24:56,629 It appeared to be stolen telephone company equipment. 531 00:24:56,729 --> 00:24:58,831 The owners notify the authorities. 532 00:24:59,866 --> 00:25:00,667 MAN: He's no scumbag. 533 00:25:00,767 --> 00:25:02,001 MAN 2: He's not stupid. 534 00:25:02,101 --> 00:25:03,570 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Telephone company investigator 535 00:25:03,670 --> 00:25:06,105 Jon von Brauch, along with the local police, 536 00:25:06,205 --> 00:25:07,874 arrived immediately. - Jon von Brauch. 537 00:25:07,974 --> 00:25:08,808 Hi, Jon. How are you? 538 00:25:08,908 --> 00:25:09,709 All right. 539 00:25:11,210 --> 00:25:12,579 JON VON BRAUCH (VOICEOVER): We found by a storage locker that 540 00:25:12,679 --> 00:25:16,949 contained pieces of electronic equipment, pay phones, computer 541 00:25:17,049 --> 00:25:19,552 print outs, including the print out 542 00:25:19,652 --> 00:25:21,588 of the non-published number of the Soviet 543 00:25:21,688 --> 00:25:24,256 Embassy in San Francisco. 544 00:25:24,356 --> 00:25:27,159 That's not the type of equipment or material 545 00:25:27,259 --> 00:25:30,863 that one would buy at a swap meet or find in a dumpster. 546 00:25:30,963 --> 00:25:33,666 It was quite obviously stolen property. 547 00:25:33,766 --> 00:25:34,701 Whose locker is this? 548 00:25:34,801 --> 00:25:36,969 Some guy by the name of John Anderson. 549 00:25:37,069 --> 00:25:39,672 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The name John Anderson was a fake. 550 00:25:39,772 --> 00:25:43,475 But several items in the locker bore the name Kevin Poulsen. 551 00:25:43,576 --> 00:25:46,312 It appeared as if Dark Dante had been caught again. 552 00:25:51,550 --> 00:25:54,286 Authorities apprehended Kevin, who agreed to a consent 553 00:25:54,386 --> 00:25:56,956 search of his apartment. 554 00:25:57,056 --> 00:25:58,758 They were astonished to find that Kevin 555 00:25:58,858 --> 00:26:01,894 had a complete wiretapping facility in a spare bedroom. 556 00:26:01,994 --> 00:26:04,697 What are you doing with all this stuff, Kevin? 557 00:26:04,797 --> 00:26:06,498 I don't know, I just have it. 558 00:26:06,599 --> 00:26:08,000 I just kind of get it. It's neat. 559 00:26:08,100 --> 00:26:10,002 JON VON BRAUCH (VOICEOVER): The equipment in the switch room 560 00:26:10,102 --> 00:26:14,974 allowed to Mr. Poulsen not only to enter computer databases, 561 00:26:15,074 --> 00:26:19,679 ours and others, but it also gave him the ability to monitor 562 00:26:19,779 --> 00:26:23,249 telephone conversations without the parties to the conversation 563 00:26:23,349 --> 00:26:26,653 being aware that they were being monitored. 564 00:26:26,753 --> 00:26:29,588 How about the test set over there with the lettering on it? 565 00:26:29,689 --> 00:26:31,423 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Connected to Kevin's computer 566 00:26:31,523 --> 00:26:34,661 was an unauthorized test set which could be used to tap 567 00:26:34,761 --> 00:26:36,028 into private phone lines. 568 00:26:36,128 --> 00:26:36,929 I don't know. 569 00:26:37,029 --> 00:26:38,230 I got that from a buddy of mine. 570 00:26:38,330 --> 00:26:39,832 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Only the telephone company, 571 00:26:39,932 --> 00:26:41,233 and through them, legally authorized 572 00:26:41,333 --> 00:26:45,071 law enforcement officers, are allowed to use test sets. 573 00:26:45,171 --> 00:26:47,039 [music playing] 574 00:26:47,139 --> 00:26:50,342 Incredibly, the authorities found photographs Kevin Poulsen 575 00:26:50,442 --> 00:26:52,879 had taken of himself breaking into a telephone 576 00:26:52,979 --> 00:26:56,448 switching trailer, then using the equipment inside. 577 00:26:56,548 --> 00:26:59,585 Kevin's ego provided the phone company with the evidence they 578 00:26:59,686 --> 00:27:02,154 needed to bring in the FBI. 579 00:27:02,254 --> 00:27:03,589 WILLIAM E. SMITH (VOICEOVER): We determined 580 00:27:03,690 --> 00:27:08,527 that the acts that Poulsen was involved in had escalated. 581 00:27:08,627 --> 00:27:12,431 We found evidence that Poulsen had penetrated the United 582 00:27:12,531 --> 00:27:16,068 States government computer, and had transferred 583 00:27:16,168 --> 00:27:19,338 the passwords of that computer, via electronic mail, 584 00:27:19,438 --> 00:27:21,941 to other individuals. 585 00:27:22,041 --> 00:27:23,876 [music playing] 586 00:27:23,976 --> 00:27:25,177 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Investigators 587 00:27:25,277 --> 00:27:27,747 found that over the last year, someone matching 588 00:27:27,847 --> 00:27:30,082 Kevin Poulsen's description had illegally 589 00:27:30,182 --> 00:27:32,418 entered several northern California telephone 590 00:27:32,518 --> 00:27:34,420 facilities using a false ID. 591 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:35,788 [dog barking] 592 00:27:35,888 --> 00:27:37,656 We discovered that Mr. Poulsen, 593 00:27:37,757 --> 00:27:41,928 and we documented at least three cases, where he had 594 00:27:42,028 --> 00:27:45,397 actually entered the buildings. 595 00:27:45,497 --> 00:27:46,298 Hi. 596 00:27:46,398 --> 00:27:47,199 Can I help you? 597 00:27:47,299 --> 00:27:48,100 Yeah. 598 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,469 I'm from the Menlo Park office. 599 00:27:50,569 --> 00:27:52,705 I'm here to check out the ESS. 600 00:27:52,805 --> 00:27:55,274 The ESS equipment is up on the second floor. 601 00:27:55,374 --> 00:27:56,876 [typing] 602 00:27:56,976 --> 00:27:58,577 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Once inside the building, 603 00:27:58,677 --> 00:28:00,279 the intruder found telephone numbers 604 00:28:00,379 --> 00:28:01,914 he could use to get inside the phone 605 00:28:02,014 --> 00:28:03,282 company's computer system. 606 00:28:06,552 --> 00:28:08,788 He also stole manuals, switching equipment, 607 00:28:08,888 --> 00:28:10,422 and a test set like the one found 608 00:28:10,522 --> 00:28:12,491 in Kevin Poulsen's apartment. 609 00:28:15,928 --> 00:28:18,230 [music playing] 610 00:28:18,330 --> 00:28:20,399 Kevin Poulsen had allegedly infiltrated 611 00:28:20,499 --> 00:28:23,135 US military computer transmissions obtaining 612 00:28:23,235 --> 00:28:26,438 classified army information. 613 00:28:26,538 --> 00:28:29,308 Authorities believe he also obtained classified information 614 00:28:29,408 --> 00:28:32,144 about the FBI investigation of overthrowing Philippine 615 00:28:32,244 --> 00:28:35,882 President Ferdinand Marcos. 616 00:28:35,982 --> 00:28:38,317 In addition, he may have wiretapped and tape 617 00:28:38,417 --> 00:28:44,123 recorded phone conversations of his friend Sean Randol. 618 00:28:44,223 --> 00:28:47,193 The test set found in Kevin's apartment and his possession 619 00:28:47,293 --> 00:28:49,228 of the unlisted Soviet number led 620 00:28:49,328 --> 00:28:51,597 the FBI to believe that Kevin Poulsen 621 00:28:51,697 --> 00:28:53,732 might be engaging in espionage. 622 00:28:53,833 --> 00:28:55,067 [music playing] 623 00:28:55,167 --> 00:28:56,803 WILLIAM E. SMITH (VOICEOVER): Through the investigation, 624 00:28:56,903 --> 00:29:01,273 we learned that Poulsen had a secret clearance. 625 00:29:01,373 --> 00:29:04,743 Because of this, his penetration of the United States Army 626 00:29:04,844 --> 00:29:07,446 government computer, his obtaining 627 00:29:07,546 --> 00:29:10,216 of a non-published number of the Soviet consulate, 628 00:29:10,316 --> 00:29:14,753 gave us grave concern as to how far Poulsen was 629 00:29:14,854 --> 00:29:17,423 going with these criminal acts. 630 00:29:18,825 --> 00:29:21,027 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): On October 19th, 1989, 631 00:29:21,127 --> 00:29:22,995 a two-year investigation resulted 632 00:29:23,095 --> 00:29:25,197 in a 19-count indictment against Kevin 633 00:29:25,297 --> 00:29:27,867 Poulsen and two fellow hackers. 634 00:29:27,967 --> 00:29:30,569 They were charged with conspiracy, computer fraud, 635 00:29:30,669 --> 00:29:32,738 wiretapping, embezzlement, and theft 636 00:29:32,839 --> 00:29:36,608 of public property and records. 637 00:29:36,708 --> 00:29:40,312 The two other men were arrested and now await trial, 638 00:29:40,412 --> 00:29:42,214 but Kevin Poulsen has fled. 639 00:29:44,884 --> 00:29:47,286 The FBI is making him out to be a dangerous person 640 00:29:47,386 --> 00:29:49,488 because he has the knowledge to do things 641 00:29:49,588 --> 00:29:52,124 that he is not supposed to do. 642 00:29:52,224 --> 00:29:56,395 And he does things that are illegal. 643 00:29:56,495 --> 00:29:59,932 But as far as hurting people goes, 644 00:30:00,032 --> 00:30:04,270 Kevin is the kind of person who would rather know how to do 645 00:30:04,370 --> 00:30:06,605 things than actually do them. 646 00:30:06,705 --> 00:30:08,340 [music playing] 647 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:09,575 WILLIAM E. SMITH (VOICEOVER): We feel 648 00:30:09,675 --> 00:30:12,478 that Poulsen probably started out as he hacker, 649 00:30:12,578 --> 00:30:14,013 because of curiosity. 650 00:30:14,113 --> 00:30:20,452 But as the years wore on, his curiosity became unsatisfied. 651 00:30:20,552 --> 00:30:22,889 He crossed the line from mere curiosity 652 00:30:22,989 --> 00:30:25,657 to that in of intentionally committing 653 00:30:25,757 --> 00:30:29,795 criminal acts to further this quest for power. 654 00:30:29,896 --> 00:30:31,864 That gives us concern. 655 00:30:31,964 --> 00:30:34,633 Law enforcement government, or even private citizens 656 00:30:34,733 --> 00:30:38,504 out there, Poulsen certainly has a potential to be a danger 657 00:30:38,604 --> 00:30:39,906 to any one of these three. 658 00:30:42,341 --> 00:30:43,609 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Kevin Poulsen 659 00:30:43,709 --> 00:30:48,847 is 25 years old and 5 feet 8 inches tall with a slim build. 660 00:30:48,948 --> 00:30:51,417 He has used the surnames Drake, Locke, 661 00:30:51,517 --> 00:30:53,953 and Cooper, as well as the aliases Walter 662 00:30:54,053 --> 00:30:56,688 Kovacs and John Anderson. 663 00:30:56,788 --> 00:30:58,657 The FBI has information that Poulsen 664 00:30:58,757 --> 00:31:00,726 may be living in the Los Angeles area 665 00:31:00,826 --> 00:31:04,330 and driving all white late 70s van. 666 00:31:04,430 --> 00:31:06,298 He's an expert in the computer operating 667 00:31:06,398 --> 00:31:10,002 system called Unix and maybe working in a related field. 668 00:31:10,102 --> 00:31:12,404 [music playing] 669 00:31:13,872 --> 00:31:17,676 One can only speculate about what motivated Kevin Poulsen. 670 00:31:17,776 --> 00:31:19,211 Those that knew him before he fled 671 00:31:19,311 --> 00:31:21,247 agree that he's an unusually talented and bright 672 00:31:21,347 --> 00:31:23,615 young man, possibly a genius. 673 00:31:23,715 --> 00:31:25,851 But now he is a wanted man facing up 674 00:31:25,952 --> 00:31:27,987 to 37 years in prison. 675 00:31:28,087 --> 00:31:29,388 [music playing] 676 00:31:29,488 --> 00:31:30,389 Update. 677 00:31:30,489 --> 00:31:32,524 Shortly after our broadcast, the FBI 678 00:31:32,624 --> 00:31:35,094 received information that Kevin Poulsen was living 679 00:31:35,194 --> 00:31:38,864 near Los Angeles, California. 680 00:31:38,965 --> 00:31:40,732 LAWRENCE G. LAWLER (VOICEOVER): Our San Francisco office 681 00:31:40,832 --> 00:31:43,802 advised us that Poulsen had some acquaintances in the Los 682 00:31:43,902 --> 00:31:46,005 Angeles area, and we went out and interviewed 683 00:31:46,105 --> 00:31:47,906 those acquaintances and one of them 684 00:31:48,007 --> 00:31:50,542 advised us that he had been seen in the not too 685 00:31:50,642 --> 00:31:53,212 distant past at Hughes Market. 686 00:31:53,312 --> 00:31:54,613 We then went out and interviewed all 687 00:31:54,713 --> 00:31:57,950 the employees at Hughes Market and displayed his photograph. 688 00:31:58,050 --> 00:31:59,685 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Three weeks later, Poulsen 689 00:31:59,785 --> 00:32:03,855 returned to the supermarket. 690 00:32:03,956 --> 00:32:06,993 BRIAN BRIDGES (VOICEOVER): I walked past Kevin 691 00:32:07,093 --> 00:32:11,663 and it dawned on me that's the person in the photo. 692 00:32:11,763 --> 00:32:14,266 And adrenaline was pumping in me. 693 00:32:14,366 --> 00:32:16,435 I felt really nervous and I didn't 694 00:32:16,535 --> 00:32:23,742 want to let any suspicion on to Kevin that we were on to him. 695 00:32:23,842 --> 00:32:26,645 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Brian immediately notified the FBI. 696 00:32:26,745 --> 00:32:28,981 However, Poulsen was able to leave the store 697 00:32:29,081 --> 00:32:30,616 before agents could respond. 698 00:32:30,716 --> 00:32:32,818 [music playing] 699 00:32:32,918 --> 00:32:36,322 The FBI informed me that Kevin Poulsen had been seen 700 00:32:36,422 --> 00:32:37,956 at the Van Nuys Hughes Market at about 701 00:32:38,057 --> 00:32:40,859 10 or 10:30 in the evening. 702 00:32:40,959 --> 00:32:43,762 I decided to surveil the market, thinking 703 00:32:43,862 --> 00:32:46,999 Kevin may show up again. 704 00:32:47,099 --> 00:32:51,037 At about 10 minutes to midnight, Kevin Poulsen 705 00:32:51,137 --> 00:32:53,605 arrived, drove up, and parked immediately 706 00:32:53,705 --> 00:32:55,007 in front of the market. 707 00:32:55,107 --> 00:32:58,344 [music playing] 708 00:32:59,578 --> 00:33:03,115 Once Kevin was in the store, I took a position 709 00:33:03,215 --> 00:33:06,152 near the front door and asked the security guard 710 00:33:06,252 --> 00:33:08,854 to go find Brian Bridges, the evening manager, 711 00:33:08,954 --> 00:33:11,923 and bring him to my location so I could tell him that Kevin 712 00:33:12,024 --> 00:33:13,159 Poulsen was in the store. 713 00:33:13,259 --> 00:33:15,194 [beeping] 714 00:33:15,294 --> 00:33:16,362 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Believing 715 00:33:16,462 --> 00:33:19,131 that Poulsen would again elude capture, two store 716 00:33:19,231 --> 00:33:20,599 clerks made a daring move. 717 00:33:25,537 --> 00:33:29,007 Security! 718 00:33:29,108 --> 00:33:31,043 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): A security guard escorted Poulsen 719 00:33:31,143 --> 00:33:34,513 to a storeroom where he was held until FBI agents arrived 720 00:33:34,613 --> 00:33:36,415 and placed him under arrest. 721 00:33:36,515 --> 00:33:38,484 [music playing] 722 00:33:38,584 --> 00:33:40,152 LAWRENCE G. LAWLER (VOICEOVER): During the search 723 00:33:40,252 --> 00:33:43,089 of Mr. Poulsen, we found some handcuff 724 00:33:43,189 --> 00:33:45,924 keys in his eyeglass case. 725 00:33:46,024 --> 00:33:47,626 During the time that he was in custody, 726 00:33:47,726 --> 00:33:50,729 he claimed that his contact lenses were drying out 727 00:33:50,829 --> 00:33:52,864 and he had asked for his eyeglass cases 728 00:33:52,964 --> 00:33:54,133 to be sent to him. 729 00:33:54,233 --> 00:33:57,403 So, I'm assuming he was looking for the handcuff keys. 730 00:33:57,503 --> 00:34:01,340 [music playing] 731 00:34:19,191 --> 00:34:21,527 The friendships you make as children often 732 00:34:21,627 --> 00:34:23,462 fade with the passage of time, enduring 733 00:34:23,562 --> 00:34:25,631 all only pleasant memories. 734 00:34:25,731 --> 00:34:27,666 But for the woman in our next story, 735 00:34:27,766 --> 00:34:30,102 a friendship with a young girl who was battling cancer 736 00:34:30,202 --> 00:34:33,372 has survived the years and become a lifelong search. 737 00:34:33,472 --> 00:34:35,374 Tonight, she asks for your help in finding 738 00:34:35,474 --> 00:34:38,310 her special childhood friend and fulfilling a promise she 739 00:34:38,410 --> 00:34:39,845 made more than 20 years ago. 740 00:34:45,384 --> 00:34:46,385 Good morning. 741 00:34:46,485 --> 00:34:48,320 Good Good morning! 742 00:34:48,420 --> 00:34:50,456 We're here to admit our daughter, LaHarriet Wade. 743 00:34:50,556 --> 00:34:52,057 NURSE: Hi, LaHarriet, how are you? 744 00:34:52,158 --> 00:34:52,924 Fine. 745 00:34:53,024 --> 00:34:54,260 NURSE: I've been expecting you. 746 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:55,994 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): When she was seven years old, 747 00:34:56,094 --> 00:34:58,564 LaHarriet Wade was admitted to Children's Hospital 748 00:34:58,664 --> 00:35:01,066 of Los Angeles, California. 749 00:35:01,167 --> 00:35:02,768 She was scheduled to undergo surgery 750 00:35:02,868 --> 00:35:05,671 to remove several large tumors from her throat. 751 00:35:05,771 --> 00:35:08,240 Although extremely painful, LaHarriet's condition 752 00:35:08,340 --> 00:35:09,708 was not life threatening. 753 00:35:11,042 --> 00:35:12,244 LAHARRIET "NIKI" WADE (VOICEOVER): 754 00:35:12,344 --> 00:35:15,381 I was a little nervous about being left in there alone, 755 00:35:15,481 --> 00:35:16,582 because it's all new to me. 756 00:35:16,682 --> 00:35:18,784 I had gone back before for tests, 757 00:35:18,884 --> 00:35:21,387 but I wasn't actually placed in there before, 758 00:35:21,487 --> 00:35:24,055 and this time I'd be in there and my parents 759 00:35:24,156 --> 00:35:25,991 wouldn't be there. 760 00:35:26,091 --> 00:35:28,227 Ooh, Mommy, look at those. 761 00:35:28,327 --> 00:35:29,395 LAHARRIET'S MOTHER: Those are nice. 762 00:35:29,495 --> 00:35:31,230 You want me to get you some? - Yes. 763 00:35:31,330 --> 00:35:32,198 NURSE: OK, LaHarriet. 764 00:35:32,298 --> 00:35:33,365 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): LaHarriet 765 00:35:33,465 --> 00:35:34,400 shared a room with eight-year-old Charita Lynn 766 00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:35,367 Harding. 767 00:35:35,467 --> 00:35:36,635 NURSE: --in a moment to help you-- 768 00:35:36,735 --> 00:35:37,736 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Charita had been diagnosed 769 00:35:37,836 --> 00:35:39,905 with a rare form of cancer, and she too was 770 00:35:40,005 --> 00:35:42,308 scheduled to undergo surgery. 771 00:35:42,408 --> 00:35:43,742 I like your flowers. 772 00:35:43,842 --> 00:35:44,843 CHARITA LYNN HARDING: Thank you. 773 00:35:44,943 --> 00:35:47,546 I have dolls too. 774 00:35:47,646 --> 00:35:49,381 Would you like to play with one? 775 00:35:49,481 --> 00:35:50,682 LAHARRIET "NIKI" WADE: Yes. 776 00:35:50,782 --> 00:35:51,617 CHARITA LYNN HARDING: Here, you can play with Lovely. 777 00:35:51,717 --> 00:35:52,851 LAHARRIET "NIKI" WADE (VOICEOVER): 778 00:35:52,951 --> 00:35:54,220 I looked up to Charita, because one, she was older. 779 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,889 She's about a year older than I. And she was there first, 780 00:35:57,989 --> 00:36:00,592 so she kind of initiated me of being 781 00:36:00,692 --> 00:36:02,528 in a new place, new atmosphere. 782 00:36:02,628 --> 00:36:05,197 This part would be blue right here. 783 00:36:05,297 --> 00:36:06,932 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In the days that followed, 784 00:36:07,032 --> 00:36:09,701 a warm and caring friendship blossomed. 785 00:36:09,801 --> 00:36:11,503 LaHarriet and Charita spent their days 786 00:36:11,603 --> 00:36:14,306 playing games and pulling pranks on the hospital staff. 787 00:36:14,406 --> 00:36:15,207 [music playing] 788 00:36:15,307 --> 00:36:16,708 Hey, let's have a race. 789 00:36:16,808 --> 00:36:20,212 [music playing] 790 00:36:21,747 --> 00:36:22,781 LAHARRIET "NIKI" WADE (VOICEOVER): 791 00:36:22,881 --> 00:36:25,217 We were in our own little world. 792 00:36:25,317 --> 00:36:28,554 There was no adults around to come in and tell us what to do. 793 00:36:28,654 --> 00:36:30,256 [music playing] 794 00:36:30,356 --> 00:36:31,323 I'll get you later! 795 00:36:31,423 --> 00:36:32,458 LAHARRIET "NIKI" WADE (VOICEOVER): 796 00:36:32,558 --> 00:36:33,925 We created a closeness. 797 00:36:34,025 --> 00:36:36,027 So, she was kind of like a sister. 798 00:36:36,127 --> 00:36:38,397 We had gotten that relationship. 799 00:36:38,497 --> 00:36:41,400 There was a bond there because we mattered to one another. 800 00:36:41,500 --> 00:36:46,137 We looked out for what went on, and we had something in common, 801 00:36:46,238 --> 00:36:48,607 and that was our illnesses itself. 802 00:36:48,707 --> 00:36:50,842 INTERCOM: Visiting hours are now over. 803 00:36:50,942 --> 00:36:52,210 All visitors please leave. 804 00:36:52,311 --> 00:36:54,179 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): As the time for Charita's operation 805 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,682 neared, she was forced to endure a nightly routine 806 00:36:56,782 --> 00:36:59,117 of painful pre-surgical treatments. 807 00:36:59,217 --> 00:37:00,386 INTERCOM: Dr. Thomas, line three. 808 00:37:00,486 --> 00:37:01,320 Dr. Thomas. 809 00:37:01,420 --> 00:37:02,588 LAHARRIET "NIKI" WADE (VOICEOVER): 810 00:37:02,688 --> 00:37:05,156 I would watch when they would come in for the testing. 811 00:37:05,257 --> 00:37:07,893 She wouldn't really scream out, but you'd hear a little shrill 812 00:37:07,993 --> 00:37:11,162 or something like that. 813 00:37:11,263 --> 00:37:13,999 When I look over, she would turn away like, this 814 00:37:14,099 --> 00:37:17,636 is not happening to me. 815 00:37:17,736 --> 00:37:19,137 I would be angry with the doctors 816 00:37:19,237 --> 00:37:21,373 because I was like, why are you hurting her? 817 00:37:21,473 --> 00:37:24,476 But through it all, she was tough. 818 00:37:24,576 --> 00:37:27,946 And actually she was a lot stronger than I. 819 00:37:28,046 --> 00:37:32,150 And her problem, really, as I got older and understood more, 820 00:37:32,250 --> 00:37:33,719 was worse than mine. 821 00:37:33,819 --> 00:37:34,686 [music playing] 822 00:37:34,786 --> 00:37:35,654 My baby. 823 00:37:35,754 --> 00:37:36,622 Hi! 824 00:37:36,722 --> 00:37:39,525 [music playing] 825 00:37:41,092 --> 00:37:42,027 MAN: Hold on. OK. 826 00:37:42,127 --> 00:37:42,928 Up. 827 00:37:43,028 --> 00:37:44,430 WOMAN: Lift. 828 00:37:44,530 --> 00:37:45,331 MAN: OK. 829 00:37:45,431 --> 00:37:46,498 Check her pulse. 830 00:37:46,598 --> 00:37:47,766 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): 10:00 PM, the night 831 00:37:47,866 --> 00:37:49,901 of Charita's operation. 832 00:37:50,001 --> 00:37:51,937 After several hours of surgery, Charita 833 00:37:52,037 --> 00:37:53,772 was returned to the room. 834 00:37:53,872 --> 00:37:55,240 [music playing] 835 00:37:55,341 --> 00:37:56,375 LAHARRIET "NIKI" WADE (VOICEOVER): 836 00:37:56,475 --> 00:37:58,677 I was afraid, really afraid. 837 00:37:58,777 --> 00:37:59,645 Does that hurt, sweetheart? 838 00:37:59,745 --> 00:38:00,846 LAHARRIET "NIKI" WADE (VOICEOVER): 839 00:38:00,946 --> 00:38:02,714 I felt them taking her away did something to her 840 00:38:02,814 --> 00:38:05,684 that changed her altogether. 841 00:38:05,784 --> 00:38:08,320 Mommy, is this going to happen to me? 842 00:38:08,420 --> 00:38:09,254 No, honey. 843 00:38:09,355 --> 00:38:10,756 This isn't going to happen to you. 844 00:38:10,856 --> 00:38:12,290 She has a different type of operation 845 00:38:12,391 --> 00:38:14,893 than you're going to have. 846 00:38:14,993 --> 00:38:16,728 And then when she grows up, she's not going 847 00:38:16,828 --> 00:38:17,929 to be able to have any babies. 848 00:38:18,029 --> 00:38:19,164 LAHARRIET "NIKI" WADE (VOICEOVER): 849 00:38:19,264 --> 00:38:22,968 So that's when my mother explained to me that Charita 850 00:38:23,068 --> 00:38:25,971 had had a very, very delicate surgery 851 00:38:26,071 --> 00:38:29,441 and that she wouldn't be able to have kids. 852 00:38:29,541 --> 00:38:32,611 And I remember feeling like, oh, that was just 853 00:38:32,711 --> 00:38:34,312 the worst thing in the world. 854 00:38:34,413 --> 00:38:36,882 [crying] 855 00:38:39,685 --> 00:38:41,553 Everybody, Charita's parents, the doctors, 856 00:38:41,653 --> 00:38:43,389 they all went out in the hall to talk. 857 00:38:43,489 --> 00:38:48,594 And Charita, she was lying in her bed, just lying there, 858 00:38:48,694 --> 00:38:49,961 and she had tears in her eyes. 859 00:38:50,061 --> 00:38:53,832 So it made me feel real sad that I couldn't help her. 860 00:38:53,932 --> 00:38:55,501 Don't worry. 861 00:38:55,601 --> 00:38:58,069 Are you feeling all right? 862 00:38:58,169 --> 00:39:01,272 I'm sorry you're feeling so bad. 863 00:39:01,373 --> 00:39:03,141 Does it hurt? 864 00:39:03,241 --> 00:39:06,044 [music playing] 865 00:39:06,144 --> 00:39:07,479 I said, you don't have to cry. 866 00:39:10,716 --> 00:39:21,026 I said, because, if I ever have a baby, I said, 867 00:39:21,126 --> 00:39:24,563 you can share it with me and we can both be its mommy. 868 00:39:24,663 --> 00:39:28,567 I said, I'll even name it Charita after you. 869 00:39:28,667 --> 00:39:31,470 [music playing] 870 00:39:40,946 --> 00:39:42,748 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Five weeks after LaHarriet Wade 871 00:39:42,848 --> 00:39:45,283 and Charita Harding first met, the day 872 00:39:45,383 --> 00:39:47,753 came for them to say goodbye. 873 00:39:47,853 --> 00:39:51,289 LaHarriet's operation was a success and she was sent home, 874 00:39:51,389 --> 00:39:54,726 but Charita had to remain in the hospital for further treatment. 875 00:39:54,826 --> 00:39:56,895 Let me take a picture of you. 876 00:40:00,532 --> 00:40:02,033 LAHARRIET "NIKI" WADE (VOICEOVER): When we left, 877 00:40:02,133 --> 00:40:03,869 we took pictures. 878 00:40:03,969 --> 00:40:07,639 And I remember not wanting to say goodbye to her. 879 00:40:07,739 --> 00:40:10,642 I felt like I was losing a sister. 880 00:40:10,742 --> 00:40:12,578 I hope I see you soon. 881 00:40:12,678 --> 00:40:14,045 Bye, you too. 882 00:40:14,145 --> 00:40:15,380 LAHARRIET "NIKI" WADE (VOICEOVER): 883 00:40:15,481 --> 00:40:17,916 The two girls agreed to continue their friendship by phone, 884 00:40:18,016 --> 00:40:21,019 but two months later LaHarriet's family moved to New Mexico 885 00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:24,456 and the young friends soon lost touch. 886 00:40:24,556 --> 00:40:25,891 Bye! 887 00:40:25,991 --> 00:40:29,060 Yes, may I speak to Charita Harding? 888 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:33,431 MAN: In 1975, the family returned to Los Angeles. 889 00:40:33,532 --> 00:40:35,967 LaHarriet called every Harding listed in the phone book 890 00:40:36,067 --> 00:40:38,770 but was unable to locate Charita. 891 00:40:38,870 --> 00:40:42,140 [music playing] 892 00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:44,442 Seven years ago, LaHarriet married and is now 893 00:40:44,543 --> 00:40:46,745 known as Niki Crowder. 894 00:40:46,845 --> 00:40:48,346 Today she is a mother of a healthy 895 00:40:48,446 --> 00:40:52,518 three-year-old daughter, whom she plans to baptize Charita. 896 00:40:52,618 --> 00:40:54,185 It is Niki's hope for Charita Lynn 897 00:40:54,285 --> 00:40:57,122 Harding to become godmother to Niki's little girl. 898 00:40:57,222 --> 00:40:58,423 LAHARRIET "NIKI" WADE (VOICEOVER): 899 00:40:58,524 --> 00:41:01,527 I want my daughter to know Charita because she's a very 900 00:41:01,627 --> 00:41:05,063 special person in my life, and bringing those two together 901 00:41:05,163 --> 00:41:06,765 would be perfect for me. 902 00:41:06,865 --> 00:41:08,700 [music playing] 903 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,135 Do you want to learn how to make-- 904 00:41:10,235 --> 00:41:11,269 LAHARRIET "NIKI" WADE (VOICEOVER): 905 00:41:11,369 --> 00:41:13,371 I think of Charita all the time. 906 00:41:13,471 --> 00:41:16,942 I've never ever stopped really ever thinking about Charita. 907 00:41:17,042 --> 00:41:19,611 Even though she's not around, she's still a best friend 908 00:41:19,711 --> 00:41:22,047 in the sense of the memories. 909 00:41:22,147 --> 00:41:25,350 I think when you hold onto a memory, it can't be altered, 910 00:41:25,450 --> 00:41:27,986 so she's still a best friend. 911 00:41:28,086 --> 00:41:30,722 Charita gave me a lot, and she never 912 00:41:30,822 --> 00:41:34,726 took anything back from me, and that's what a real friend is. 913 00:41:34,826 --> 00:41:38,864 If I have a baby, we can share it. 914 00:41:38,964 --> 00:41:44,302 And I promise, I promise, I'll name her after you. 915 00:41:45,671 --> 00:41:47,105 LAHARRIET "NIKI" WADE (VOICEOVER): If I saw Charita, 916 00:41:47,205 --> 00:41:51,877 I'd tell her that I didn't forget the promise. 917 00:41:51,977 --> 00:41:52,844 That's what I'd tell her. 918 00:41:52,944 --> 00:41:54,112 I didn't forget the promise. 919 00:41:54,212 --> 00:41:56,047 [music playing] 920 00:41:56,147 --> 00:42:02,554 And I promise, I promise, I'll name her after you. 921 00:42:02,654 --> 00:42:03,855 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): A few minutes 922 00:42:03,955 --> 00:42:05,824 after Niki's story aired, we learned 923 00:42:05,924 --> 00:42:08,526 that Charita Lynn Harding was alive and well and living 924 00:42:08,627 --> 00:42:09,661 in Oklahoma. 925 00:42:09,761 --> 00:42:12,898 We immediately contacted Niki with the good news. 926 00:42:12,998 --> 00:42:16,367 [music playing] 927 00:42:16,467 --> 00:42:19,671 Just 10 days after our broadcast and more than 21 years 928 00:42:19,771 --> 00:42:23,141 after they said goodbye, Charita Lynn Harding and Niki Crowder 929 00:42:23,241 --> 00:42:26,277 were finally reunited at Nikki's home in Los Angeles. 930 00:42:26,377 --> 00:42:27,145 [music playing] 931 00:42:27,245 --> 00:42:28,647 Oh. 932 00:42:28,747 --> 00:42:29,547 My God. 933 00:42:29,648 --> 00:42:30,448 I can't believe. 934 00:42:30,548 --> 00:42:31,416 It's been a long time. 935 00:42:31,516 --> 00:42:32,417 20 years. 936 00:42:32,517 --> 00:42:34,620 I'm so glad to see you. 937 00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:36,454 I'm so glad you're alive. 938 00:42:36,554 --> 00:42:39,090 I don't think Niki has changed that much. 939 00:42:39,190 --> 00:42:42,293 She was always a caring, giving person. 940 00:42:42,393 --> 00:42:44,262 Seems like she's still the same. 941 00:42:44,362 --> 00:42:48,466 She would have to be to try to find me after all these years 942 00:42:48,566 --> 00:42:50,836 be so persistent about it. 943 00:42:50,936 --> 00:42:52,237 [music playing] 944 00:42:52,337 --> 00:42:56,174 Father, in the name of Jesus, watch up over this child. 945 00:42:56,274 --> 00:42:59,645 Protect here all of the days of her life. 946 00:42:59,745 --> 00:43:00,846 Keep her from harm. 947 00:43:00,946 --> 00:43:02,748 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): On October 20th, 1990, 948 00:43:02,848 --> 00:43:07,285 Niki Crowder was finally able to fulfill her promise. 949 00:43:07,385 --> 00:43:10,155 A child is a gift you can't buy. 950 00:43:10,255 --> 00:43:12,123 It's the most perfect gift in the world, 951 00:43:12,223 --> 00:43:13,524 and it comes from God. 952 00:43:13,625 --> 00:43:17,162 And nobody should be deprived of that, whether they have it 953 00:43:17,262 --> 00:43:20,398 naturally, or can share it with somebody. 954 00:43:23,601 --> 00:43:27,605 That's something that I want to share with Charita, 955 00:43:27,706 --> 00:43:30,541 because of all the joy and strength she gave me, 956 00:43:30,642 --> 00:43:34,179 I can give her back something that she missed. 957 00:43:34,279 --> 00:43:37,282 Lord, bless them even as godparents. 958 00:43:37,382 --> 00:43:38,784 Cause your spirit to rest upon them. 959 00:43:38,884 --> 00:43:40,485 CHARITA LYNN HARDING (VOICEOVER): Being a godmother 960 00:43:40,585 --> 00:43:45,924 is special to me because I don't have any kids, 961 00:43:46,024 --> 00:43:52,597 it's given me a child of my own that I can share. 962 00:43:52,698 --> 00:43:54,900 I'm just honored, and so I'll try 963 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,903 to live up to it as best I can. 964 00:43:58,003 --> 00:44:00,271 I'm very happy. 965 00:44:00,371 --> 00:44:03,141 Very happy that I found Charita. 966 00:44:03,241 --> 00:44:07,578 And now I can go on, and I can go on on a positive note 967 00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:10,381 because she's alive. 968 00:44:10,481 --> 00:44:13,218 I'd just like to say thanks to everybody. 969 00:44:13,318 --> 00:44:15,053 [music playing] 970 00:44:15,153 --> 00:44:20,391 PRIEST: I christen thee Charita Kennedy Crowder. 971 00:44:23,895 --> 00:44:27,198 [music playing] 972 00:44:31,202 --> 00:44:33,104 For every mystery, there is someone 973 00:44:33,204 --> 00:44:35,673 somewhere who knows the truth. 974 00:44:35,774 --> 00:44:39,477 Join me next week for another edition of Unsolved Mysteries. 975 00:44:39,577 --> 00:44:42,814 [music playing] 76078

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