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ANNOUNCER (VOICEOVER):
This program
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is about unsolved mysteries.
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Whenever possible, the
actual family members
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and police officials
have participated
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in recreating the events.
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What you are about to see
is not a news broadcast.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Tonight on Unsolved Mysteries--
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the heartwarming
story of a Vietnam vet
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whose battle wounds
nearly cost him his life;
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and the army nurse who
healed him both physically
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and emotionally.
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You may be able to help
reunite them after 20 years.
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By all appearances,
Gertrude Pruitt
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seemed to be the kindly
grandmother you would find
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in a Norman Rockwell painting.
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But in reality, this
sweet little old lady
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was a con artist who stole
$3 million from investors.
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And in Missouri,
we'll investigate
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a baffling case of kidnapping,
bank robbery, and murder.
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Did a bank president die as
a victim in a simple hold up,
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or was his death a cruel
and callous execution?
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Join me for these
fascinating stories.
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Perhaps someone somewhere
has that one vital clue
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that can help solve a mystery.
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Perhaps that
someone is watching.
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Perhaps, it's you.
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[theme music playing]
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Jim Baczkowski lives with
his family in the small town
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of Grand Junction, Colorado.
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He and his wife,
Dolores, have two sons.
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In 1968, Jim was
wounded by enemy action
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during the Vietnam War.
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For over 20 years,
he and his family
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have had to cope
with his injuries,
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both physical and emotional.
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During the war, Jim
was one of thousands
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of troops manning the
constantly changing front lines.
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What he went through
turned his life inside out.
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But one memory of the
war Jim still holds dear.
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That memory has a
name and a face--
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Linda Sharp.
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JIM BACZKOWSKI: Captain Sharp
was the only good memory I had.
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She had something
about her that made
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you feel comfortable, warm,
want to live, and go back home--
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when you were dying.
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The hushed fields
of gravestones
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here at the National Cemetery
in Arlington, Virginia,
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are mute testimony to the
tragic toll of the Vietnam War.
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Thousands of surviving
Vietnam veterans
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have tried to put
the war behind them.
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Some have succeeded,
many have not.
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For them, the war continues.
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But one of the few memories
that can still inspire a smile
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among vets is a selfless
devotion and kindness exhibited
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by the nearly 10,000
nurses, who in many cases,
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literally breathed the life
back into their patients.
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Jim Baczkowski was
one such survivor.
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20 years ago, an
army nurse named
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Linda Sharp gave Jim
the strength he needed
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to return home to his wife.
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He feels that if he can
reunite with Captain Sharp,
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his private war will be
much closer to ending.
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Jim was drafted in
December of 1967,
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and after boot camp was
sent for advanced training
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to Fort Polk, Louisiana.
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When he learned he was
to be shipped to Vietnam,
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he placed a late night
call to his high school
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sweetheart, Dolores, whom he'd
been dating for five years.
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Dolores?
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Fine.
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Look, I've been giving
this a lot of thought.
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JIM BACZKOWSKI: I waited
in line in the rain
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for over four hours,
and I told her
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that I was going to Vietnam.
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And I said, will you marry me?
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But, what do you say?
[knocking on door]
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Give me a minute!
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JIM BACZKOWSKI: I was 19.
She was 18.
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You will?
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Oh, that's great!
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She said yes.
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I turned him down
the first two times.
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And then I decided after
that it was time to say yes,
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because I knew he
was going to leave.
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So we got married
before he left.
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I wasn't sure when
he was coming back.
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I knew the time was a year.
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I just knew the year would
have to hurry up and get by.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Only
a week after they were married,
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Jim was shipped off to Vietnam.
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[sound of helicopter propellers]
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JIM BACZKOWSKI: We landed
and we're all scared.
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Seeing now, I didn't know
what I was getting into.
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I had no idea.
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But I found out.
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[sound of explosions]
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Within three months,
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Jim was wounded twice--
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once in the jaw and
once in his leg.
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On August 29, 1968
just two days before he
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was to be reunited with
his new bride in Hawaii,
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Jim's platoon was attacked by
a group of North Vietnamese.
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[sound of gun shots]
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JIM BACZKOWSKI: They
blew us to smithereens.
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We didn't even have a chance.
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There are 60 of us--
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somewhere between
250 and 300 of them--
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and it wiped out
my whole company.
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At the time I was operating
the radio for a Lieutenant,
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because we were two
people side by side.
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He was dead.
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And then the next thing I knew,
I was reaching for a weapon.
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I went flying through the air.
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I landed 30 feet down the hill.
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I picked up my leg
that was blown off,
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and I crawled back up the hill.
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DOLORES: Who's at the door, dad?
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I think you better
read this here.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): A
telegram was sent to Dolores'
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parents addressed to her.
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It's going to be
all right, honey.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
It stated, "James P.
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Baczkowski was
wounded in Vietnam
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as a result of hostile action.
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He received traumatic
amputation of the right leg
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when engaged by hostile
force in a firefight.
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You will be kept informed
of any significant changes
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in his condition."
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DOLORES BACZKOWSKI:
I just cried.
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It's OK.
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[crying]
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DOLORES BACZKOWSKI: I couldn't
believe it really happened.
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Because you hear of things
happening to everyone else,
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but not to your own family.
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I guess I just kept looking
at it like it can go away.
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And it doesn't go away.
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It just stays there, and you
have to learn to live with it.
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Coming through!
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Coming through, coming through!
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We got a patient
now coming through!
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Coming through, coming through!
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Jim had
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been rushed by helicopter
to the 67th evacuation
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hospital in Qui Nhon.
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His prognosis was grim.
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His fever hovered
at 105 degrees.
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And his wound was
badly infected.
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He had also left six pints of
blood behind in the jungle.
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Coming through,
we got a patient!
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I'll be right there!
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Coming through!
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[interposing voices]
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Coming through!
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Has he been conscious at all?
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I don't know.
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He's coming in and out.
I don't know.
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I'll be right there!
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He looks bad.
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JIM BACZKOWSKI: My
first conscious memory
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was looking up and
seeing this blonde lady
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in fatigues helping me.
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You'll be fine, soldier.
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You'll be fine.
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JIM BACZKOWSKI:
Captain Lynn Sharp.
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I just woke up and
opened my eyes,
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and she was looking over me.
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We need a doctor
back over here!
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JIM BACZKOWSKI: I
heard people talking.
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And he ain't going to make it.
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And all I saw was her
looking down on me.
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It'll be all taken care of.
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JIM BACZKOWSKI: She gave me
the encouragement to live.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Because
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of the extreme infection,
what was left of Jim's
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leg was amputated at the hip.
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This was followed
by a frigid bath
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to lower his high
body temperature.
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At this time, Jim began to
become more aware of Captain
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Sharp's constant attention.
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Hi, Jim.
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How are you doing?
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Good.
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Going for a little swim?
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JIM BACZKOWSKI: The
lady was phenomenal.
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Hey, you know, we need
to hurry up and get your--
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[interposing voices]
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JIM BACZKOWSKI:
Every time I'd open
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my eyes, that lady's blue eyes
would be looking down at me.
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It looks like
you're feeling better.
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Hey, I promise if you get
your temperature down,
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I could take you out and
go get a couple of beers.
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JIM BACZKOWSKI: She told me
when your temperature drops
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and you get into bed,
I'll wheel you outside,
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and I'll bring you a cold beer.
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I promise.
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That's what I'm going to do.
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If you weren't cold before--
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[sound of ice pouring out]
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Over a period of six days,
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Captain Sharp was always there.
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And Jim slowly began to heal.
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You'll be going home soon.
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Good night, guy.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
With her help,
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Jim regained his former spirit--
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his will to live.
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Want to go dancing
when we get back home?
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SOLDIER: Oh, you know I'd
up and dance the night away.
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Time to go, Jim.
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Go where?
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You'll see.
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What are you doing?
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You'll see.
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Be quiet.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Late one night,
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two days before Jim
was scheduled to leave,
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Captain Sharp kept her word.
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Do I keep my promises?
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Wow!
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[laughter]
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JIM BACZKOWSKI: Stars were
out-- beautiful night--
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My own stock.
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--and she brought
two cans of beer--
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popped them both-- sat on the
edge of the bed and smiled.
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So you're going to write
your wife about your leg?
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I don't know how.
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Now you start it with
one word at a time.
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I just don't know
what to say her.
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JIM BACZKOWSKI: You
were not allowed
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to leave the MASH unit until
you wrote a letter to your wife.
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I didn't have the
courage to write it.
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She forced me to do it.
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And then I didn't know she had
sent a letter and a picture
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to my wife with it, telling
my wife what to expect.
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CAPTAIN SHARP (VOICEOVER):
Dear Mrs. Baczkowski--
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I'm the head nurse on the
ward where Jim is now.
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It truly is not possible for
me, a poor letter writer,
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to tell you how very
much Jim loves you.
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When he talks about you, his
lovely blue eyes sparkle,
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and he gets a wide
grin on his face.
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In spite of his missing
leg, he is probably
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the most cheerful and
optimistic patient I have ever
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had the pleasure of caring for.
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His spirit and
determination are marvelous.
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And with your hard
work and help--
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not pity-- he'll
make rapid progress.
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However, both of you have a
long, difficult road ahead.
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There will be days when
Jim will be discouraged.
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But don't you or
any of your families
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ever feel sorry for him.
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He needs understanding,
love, and help--
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not pity.
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A missing limb doesn't
make Jim less of a person.
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And it certainly doesn't
lessen his love for you.
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Jim leaves tomorrow for
Japan, and then home.
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We shall all miss him.
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God bless you both.
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Sincerely, Captain Linda Sharp.
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DOLORES BACZKOWSKI:
The letter helped me,
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because nobody in my family
has ever had anybody lose a leg
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or hurt in a war.
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They didn't understand.
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Her letter just let you
know what to expect.
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I've always wondered
why she wrote.
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I guess that's
kind of a question
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that'll always be there.
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[sound of helicopter propellers]
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Finally, on September 5, 1968,
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Jim began his long journey home.
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JIM BACZKOWSKI: When I left,
she pushed me out on my bed
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to the chopper.
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She gave me a big hug.
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Take care, Jim.
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So long!
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JIM BACZKOWSKI: I
thought about her
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since the day I left Vietnam.
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I just think about her.
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The camaraderie when you
make a friend in Vietnam
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is there until the person dies.
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I lived.
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I don't think that I would
have came back to my wife
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without Captain Sharp.
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She just gave me all
the encouragement,
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and the strength, and
the motivation to live.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): In 1969, Jim
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was awarded two Purple Hearts
for wounds sustained in combat,
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and a Silver Star for
his bravery under fire.
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But Jim's war raged on silently.
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DOLORES BACZKOWSKI:
Jim blocked out Vietnam
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for years and years.
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He didn't want people to know
he was a Vietnam veteran.
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He would just assume people
thought his leg was lost
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in a car accident or something.
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He really did not want people to
know that he'd been to Vietnam.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
For 20 years,
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Jim has suffered
from what has become
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known as post-traumatic
stress disorder.
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Only recently has he
begun to come to grips
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with his war experiences.
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Linda Sharp helped Jim to
transcend his physical wounds.
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He wants to find her today
so he can say, thank you.
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DOLORES BACZKOWSKI: He's
ready to look for her now,
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because now he's well enough
mentally to look for her.
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And I think if he could meet
her, it might help him to heal.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Jim and Dolores
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have recently celebrated their
21st wedding anniversary--
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a life together they
feel might have been
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impossible without Linda Sharp.
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JIM BACZKOWSKI:
I would very much
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like to get in touch
with Captain Linda Sharp,
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if it's at all
possible, and thank
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her for what she did for me--
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and all the other guys.
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[crying]
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Before the segment even aired,
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Linda Sharp saw a promotional
announcement for Jim's story
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on Unsolved Mysteries.
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She immediately
called our telecenter.
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Two weeks later--
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[doorbell]
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--she and Jim were reunited.
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Hi!
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Hi!
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- How are you?
- Good!
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How are you?
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Come here.
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I can't believe it.
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You look so good--
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you really do.
[laughter]
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You too.
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JIM BACZKOWSKI: When I opened
the door, I was elated.
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All I wanted to do was
give her a great big hug--
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and just hug her and thank her,
and kissed her on the cheek,
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and just--
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aw-- just trying to
show my appreciation.
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I feel very blessed to
be here and to actually
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see him, and talk
with him, and hear
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his versions of what went on.
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Because sometimes
what-- what nurses
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don't-- we don't
realize that we have
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an impact on patients' lives.
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And I certainly didn't
realize the impact
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I had on his life at all.
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Hello!
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Hi, how are you?
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How are you?
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CAPTAIN SHARP (VOICEOVER):
Over the years
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I've thought about--
about Jim and Dolores,
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and wondered how
they were doing,
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and if they were still together.
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And seeing this show on TV,
and seeing them in the segment
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was just the best
news that-- that
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just made it all worthwhile.
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It really pulled
things together for me.
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And it-- it reinforced
that-- that what I did over
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there was important.
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Linda, this is my son, Cory.
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Hi, Cory!
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Moments after arriving,
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Linda received an
unexpected gift--
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a portrait of a Vietnam nurse,
which Jim had framed for her.
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Well, this is how
much I think of you.
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I had this made up for you.
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And I thought you'd
like to have this.
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Oh, my God.
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[gasps]
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CAPTAIN SHARP (VOICEOVER):
When he gave me the plaque,
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it was just such
a special moment.
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It's made this day
very, very special--
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something that-- that is
likely the culmination
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of a nursing career.
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Thank you.
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[laughter]
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To be thanked in such a
special way is very memorable--
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something I'll never forget.
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JIM BACZKOWSKI: This meeting
with Linda represents
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in my healing, the final step--
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knowing that I, in my
own mind, mentally,
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physically, and the way I
feel right now, am all right.
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I finally beat the battle.
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We lost a few
battles, but I've won
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the war, let me rephrase that.
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I have won the war.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
When we return,
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we will meet a
sweet and charming
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little only lady,
who in reality,
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is a cunning and elusive crook.
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[theme music playing]
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Most of us consider ourselves
decent judges of character.
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And we'd think we'd know
a crook if we saw one.
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But con artists come in
all sorts of packages.
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Even a grandmother
baking goodies
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could be able to take
your money and run.
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Meet Gertrude Pruitt.
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Morning, everybody!
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Come on out, Katie!
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
From 1979 to 1981,
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this grandmotherly
70-year-old con woman
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ran what appeared to be
a flourishing investment
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business in Beverly Hills.
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Won't you have some
of my fruit cake?
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Thank you very much.
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00:19:56,529 --> 00:19:57,330
Thanks.
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00:19:57,430 --> 00:19:58,498
I just made it.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
This crafty granny
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hit her seamy
business activities
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behind a facade of southern
hospitality and homemade
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00:20:04,103 --> 00:20:06,506
fruitcake, while making
off with $3 million
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of her investors' money.
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You couldn't
help but like her.
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And when you looked
at the woman,
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she was so smooth and trusting,
and very soft sell, that she--
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you thought of as almost family.
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She was a homey business woman.
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Even though you knew she
had the business skills,
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she also never lost her
touch in the kitchen.
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I mean, I'm not a
big fruitcake lover,
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but they were delicious,
to be honest with you.
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As you see, this carpeting
is so beautiful, isn't it?
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And all these lovely colors--
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Gertrude claimed
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that her investment
opportunities came
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from special connections
with carpet factories
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and textile mills in the south.
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And we have pre-sold a
large order to a hotel chain.
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MICHAEL HIRSCH:
What impressed me
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the most was that although
the returns seemed almost too
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good to be true,
Gertrude seemed like such
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a loving, sincere person--
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that it was a
legitimate investment,
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and that she could do no
harm to her investors.
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Well, of course you
should give it some thought.
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I think it'll be nice if you
would talk to Cecil about it
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a little more.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Even when
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Gertrude didn't feed people
her own home cooking,
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00:21:20,413 --> 00:21:22,081
she insisted that they be fed.
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00:21:22,181 --> 00:21:23,483
Here, why don't you take this.
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00:21:23,583 --> 00:21:25,718
And take Mike out for
lunch at the Brown Derby.
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It's just around the corner.
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00:21:26,886 --> 00:21:28,355
They've got awfully good food.
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00:21:28,455 --> 00:21:29,356
Awfully nice meeting you.
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And you'll be
hearing from me soon.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Nothing was too good
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for Gertrude Pruitt's clients.
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She often hired limousines to
pick up potential investors
447
00:21:38,865 --> 00:21:42,535
and bring them to a
posh office building.
448
00:21:42,635 --> 00:21:44,003
One of those
investors was a woman
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who would soon discover
that she had a weakness
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for charm and fruit cake.
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She has requested that her
identity be kept secret.
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We will call her Myrna.
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Hi.
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00:21:53,380 --> 00:21:54,414
Hi!
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I'm Myrna Patterson.
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I have an appointment
with Gertrude Pruitt.
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One moment.
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Thank you.
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MYRNA: Gertrude selected a
really magnificent outlay
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for just selling carpets.
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I mean this was
two stories high.
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Mrs. Patterson!
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MYRNA: Well, my first
impression of Gertrude
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was that she was standing
there sizing me up.
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And then because
she was so cordial,
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she was southern,
and so sort of warm,
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that I forgot all about the
fact that I was being sized
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up, and just entered into her
world of how bright she was
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and how able she was.
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I have a wonderful a
business opportunity for you.
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Have you?
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I originally
invested about 20,000.
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But as I watched the
operation from the sheets--
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the balance sheets that
were coming out monthly--
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and watched the fact that people
were getting their interest,
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I invested more.
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And this my
secretary, Jennifer.
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MYRNA: Well, Gertrude
really was the office.
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She was out working every
day early in the morning
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until very late at night,
handling the customers,
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handling the money.
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And Harold was in his office.
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But what he was
doing, I never knew
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Remember, you work for me.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Gertrude's 40-year-old son,
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Harold, was her partner
in the business.
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But he had very little
contact with the clients.
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00:23:19,666 --> 00:23:22,502
He was a glowering, unfriendly
man, in sharp contrast
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to his sweet, southern mother.
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--in the office?
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Oh yes, I'd like to.
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CECIL TRUSCHEL: Even
though I was Gertrude
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and Harold's banker,
for 2 1/2 years,
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I never really met
Harold for almost
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the first year and a 1/2.
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He was the kind of a person
who you would not have trusted
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or bought a car
from, you might say.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Myrna invested
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$100,000 before she
had her first inkling
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that something was wrong.
501
00:23:50,396 --> 00:23:51,197
You can't go in there.
502
00:23:51,297 --> 00:23:52,331
Gertrude.
503
00:23:52,431 --> 00:23:53,466
Gertrude.
504
00:23:53,566 --> 00:23:55,401
You know that check you
gave me-- it bounced.
505
00:23:55,502 --> 00:23:56,368
I just came from the bank.
506
00:23:56,469 --> 00:23:57,637
They said insufficient funds.
507
00:23:57,737 --> 00:23:59,438
- Oh, I don't believe that.
- Well, I do.
508
00:23:59,539 --> 00:24:00,339
I just came from the bank.
509
00:24:00,439 --> 00:24:02,341
I know what happened.
510
00:24:02,441 --> 00:24:04,677
Harold just deposited
a large check,
511
00:24:04,777 --> 00:24:06,045
and it must not
have cleared yet.
512
00:24:06,145 --> 00:24:08,715
MYRNA: Sick as I
was, inside I was
513
00:24:08,815 --> 00:24:13,486
still playing it like a friend,
which I thought she was.
514
00:24:13,586 --> 00:24:15,488
It's safe with us, all right?
515
00:24:15,588 --> 00:24:17,256
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
It was impossible for Myrna
516
00:24:17,356 --> 00:24:19,458
to believe that this
charming, adorable woman
517
00:24:19,559 --> 00:24:20,627
could be conning her.
518
00:24:20,727 --> 00:24:22,194
So instead of
pressing the issue,
519
00:24:22,294 --> 00:24:25,464
she took home a fruitcake
and accepted a lunch date.
520
00:24:25,565 --> 00:24:26,933
- Well, thank you.
- Aw.
521
00:24:27,033 --> 00:24:28,400
Well, we put you
through some trouble.
522
00:24:28,501 --> 00:24:30,402
So how about lunch next week?
523
00:24:30,503 --> 00:24:31,370
[beeping sound]
524
00:24:31,470 --> 00:24:32,471
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Myrna's
525
00:24:32,572 --> 00:24:34,406
bad check was not the only one.
526
00:24:34,507 --> 00:24:37,243
The Pruitt's switchboard
was jammed with angry calls.
527
00:24:37,343 --> 00:24:40,079
Both Gertrude and Harold
made themselves scarce.
528
00:24:40,179 --> 00:24:42,314
Katie, have you
heard from Gertrude?
529
00:24:42,414 --> 00:24:44,917
Here's more messages.
530
00:24:45,017 --> 00:24:46,285
Thank you very much for holding.
531
00:24:46,385 --> 00:24:47,453
No.
532
00:24:47,554 --> 00:24:48,588
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Finally.
533
00:24:48,688 --> 00:24:50,456
Employee Cecil Truschel
secretly contacted
534
00:24:50,557 --> 00:24:54,126
the Pruitt's accountant
and received a rude shock.
535
00:24:54,226 --> 00:24:56,428
The financial statements
Gertrude had been showing
536
00:24:56,529 --> 00:24:58,297
investors were
completely different
537
00:24:58,397 --> 00:25:00,099
from the accountant's records.
538
00:25:00,199 --> 00:25:02,268
Well, Steve, that can only
mean that the statements are
539
00:25:02,368 --> 00:25:03,469
fraudulent.
540
00:25:03,570 --> 00:25:04,771
CECIL TRUSCHEL: It was
at that particular period
541
00:25:04,871 --> 00:25:08,608
of time I knew that there
were serious problems.
542
00:25:08,708 --> 00:25:10,877
And I just didn't know where
they had been stashing money.
543
00:25:10,977 --> 00:25:11,778
OK.
544
00:25:11,878 --> 00:25:12,679
I'll get back to you.
545
00:25:12,779 --> 00:25:14,046
Bye.
546
00:25:14,146 --> 00:25:16,448
CECIL TRUSCHEL: So at night,
sometimes between the wee bitty
547
00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:20,587
hours of 1:00 and 3:00,
I made midnight raids.
548
00:25:20,687 --> 00:25:23,322
I found every canceled
check, every statement that
549
00:25:23,422 --> 00:25:25,792
had been paid,
everything that I could
550
00:25:25,892 --> 00:25:28,628
remove out of that office.
551
00:25:28,728 --> 00:25:30,897
And by the end of the
time I had about four
552
00:25:30,997 --> 00:25:32,264
cardboard boxes full of stuff.
553
00:25:34,701 --> 00:25:36,468
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Because his friends and family
554
00:25:36,569 --> 00:25:39,438
had invested heavily with the
Pruitt's, Cecil confronted
555
00:25:39,538 --> 00:25:40,673
Harold with his evidence.
556
00:25:40,773 --> 00:25:42,174
Harold, I've got
enough evidence
557
00:25:42,274 --> 00:25:44,243
to prove that this whole
company is a phony.
558
00:25:44,343 --> 00:25:46,212
And you've got two days
to come up with the money,
559
00:25:46,312 --> 00:25:48,280
or I'm going to go
to the authorities.
560
00:25:48,380 --> 00:25:49,448
Are you threatening me?
561
00:25:49,548 --> 00:25:50,583
I'm not threatening
you, Harold.
562
00:25:50,683 --> 00:25:51,984
I'm telling you the truth.
563
00:25:52,084 --> 00:25:54,587
CECIL TRUSCHEL: He told me all
of the people had done nothing
564
00:25:54,687 --> 00:25:57,724
but made investments, and
there was a risk to be made.
565
00:25:57,824 --> 00:25:58,625
And I looked at him.
566
00:25:58,725 --> 00:25:59,959
And I said to him--
567
00:26:00,059 --> 00:26:04,496
I said, Harold, they made an
investment on a pack of lies
568
00:26:04,597 --> 00:26:06,098
that you have presented to them.
569
00:26:06,198 --> 00:26:08,601
And that's called fraud.
570
00:26:08,701 --> 00:26:09,936
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Cecil reported
571
00:26:10,036 --> 00:26:13,005
both Harold and Gertrude
Pruitt to the authorities.
572
00:26:13,105 --> 00:26:14,540
But the two of them
had disappeared,
573
00:26:14,641 --> 00:26:18,177
taking their investors'
money with them.
574
00:26:18,277 --> 00:26:21,047
Three years later, the FBI
tracked down Harold Pruitt,
575
00:26:21,147 --> 00:26:24,116
and in 1986 brought
him to trial.
576
00:26:24,216 --> 00:26:26,518
None of the investors'
money was recovered.
577
00:26:26,619 --> 00:26:31,157
Sweet motherly Gertrude Pruitt
was nowhere to be found.
578
00:26:31,257 --> 00:26:32,859
MICHAEL HIRSCH: It
was really amazing
579
00:26:32,959 --> 00:26:36,595
that Gertrude would leave
Harold behind to take the rap.
580
00:26:36,696 --> 00:26:39,398
Everybody thought that
Harold was a little bit
581
00:26:39,498 --> 00:26:42,268
of a hard character,
but Gertrude still
582
00:26:42,368 --> 00:26:44,671
was the sweet loving momma.
583
00:26:44,771 --> 00:26:49,275
And when she failed to show
up and became a fugitive,
584
00:26:49,375 --> 00:26:51,277
everybody was surprised.
585
00:26:51,377 --> 00:26:52,879
I've read every
one of these letters.
586
00:26:52,979 --> 00:26:54,681
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Based on the trial testimony
587
00:26:54,781 --> 00:26:56,115
of 10 victims,
Harold was convicted
588
00:26:56,215 --> 00:26:58,484
on 20 counts of mail fraud.
589
00:26:58,584 --> 00:27:00,286
He is currently serving
an eight year sentence
590
00:27:00,386 --> 00:27:02,822
at a California state prison.
591
00:27:02,922 --> 00:27:06,759
His mother was
never apprehended.
592
00:27:06,859 --> 00:27:08,227
Update.
593
00:27:08,327 --> 00:27:10,296
Gertrude Pruitt
has been captured.
594
00:27:10,396 --> 00:27:12,732
Just minutes after this
story originally aired,
595
00:27:12,832 --> 00:27:15,067
the Sacramento,
California FBI office
596
00:27:15,167 --> 00:27:19,605
received several calls from
viewers who recognized Pruitt.
597
00:27:19,706 --> 00:27:22,208
Five days later, she was
arrested at a Bakersfield,
598
00:27:22,308 --> 00:27:23,943
California residence
where she was
599
00:27:24,043 --> 00:27:27,013
working as a live-in housekeeper
under the assumed name Martha
600
00:27:27,113 --> 00:27:28,815
Gray.
601
00:27:28,915 --> 00:27:32,518
On May 29, 1990, Gertrude
Pruitt pleaded guilty to seven
602
00:27:32,618 --> 00:27:34,153
counts of mail fraud.
603
00:27:34,253 --> 00:27:35,988
She was sentenced to
eight years in prison,
604
00:27:36,088 --> 00:27:39,391
and is currently serving her
term at a federal penitentiary.
605
00:27:39,491 --> 00:27:41,761
Pruitt was also ordered
to pay restitution
606
00:27:41,861 --> 00:27:43,295
to her former investors.
607
00:27:56,475 --> 00:27:58,144
Next, a baffling
story of the murder
608
00:27:58,244 --> 00:27:59,912
of a popular bank president.
609
00:28:00,012 --> 00:28:01,347
Was robbery the motive?
610
00:28:01,447 --> 00:28:02,882
Or was it a brutal execution?
611
00:28:02,982 --> 00:28:07,319
[theme music playing]
612
00:28:14,326 --> 00:28:17,663
At 8:30 AM, the morning
of October 6, 1989,
613
00:28:17,764 --> 00:28:19,999
an employee of a known
Missouri state bank
614
00:28:20,099 --> 00:28:21,934
arrived as usual
to open the doors.
615
00:28:25,071 --> 00:28:26,438
Strangely, one of
them was unlocked.
616
00:28:30,709 --> 00:28:33,145
Anybody here?
617
00:28:33,245 --> 00:28:35,214
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): What
she saw inside shocked her.
618
00:28:35,314 --> 00:28:37,583
The vault was wide open.
619
00:28:37,683 --> 00:28:39,786
During the night, the
bank had been robbed.
620
00:28:42,554 --> 00:28:44,957
The FBI, along with three
different police forces
621
00:28:45,057 --> 00:28:46,292
investigated.
622
00:28:46,392 --> 00:28:49,595
They discovered two 45
caliber bullet casings.
623
00:28:49,695 --> 00:28:53,966
$70,000 was missing from the
vault, some of it in coins.
624
00:28:54,066 --> 00:28:56,035
OFFICER: Try Dan Short again.
625
00:28:56,135 --> 00:28:57,436
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Repeated
626
00:28:57,536 --> 00:28:59,906
attempts were made to contact
the bank president, Dan Short.
627
00:29:00,006 --> 00:29:01,407
But he was nowhere to be found.
628
00:29:01,507 --> 00:29:05,244
[phone ringing]
629
00:29:05,344 --> 00:29:06,578
It's just ringing.
630
00:29:06,678 --> 00:29:07,980
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
People began to wonder if Dan
631
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,615
Short had robbed his own bank.
632
00:29:12,451 --> 00:29:14,887
Dan Short was 51 years
old and separated
633
00:29:14,987 --> 00:29:16,856
from his wife of 23 years.
634
00:29:16,956 --> 00:29:20,292
He had been president of the
State Bank of Lowell since 1983
635
00:29:20,392 --> 00:29:22,394
and was popular
with people in town.
636
00:29:26,632 --> 00:29:30,702
On October 11, 1989, five
days after the robbery,
637
00:29:30,803 --> 00:29:33,605
Dan Short's body was finally
found floating in Grand
638
00:29:33,705 --> 00:29:35,942
Lake, 20 miles from the bank.
639
00:29:36,042 --> 00:29:39,178
The macabre truth was that
Dan Short had been alive when
640
00:29:39,278 --> 00:29:42,081
he was thrown into the water.
641
00:29:42,181 --> 00:29:44,984
LADELL FARLEY: He was
tied to a chair, which
642
00:29:45,084 --> 00:29:49,355
had a concrete block taped
to it with duct tape,
643
00:29:49,455 --> 00:29:54,693
with no apparent wounds to
the extent to cause death.
644
00:29:54,793 --> 00:29:58,797
It appeared at that point that
he had indeed been drowned,
645
00:29:58,898 --> 00:30:01,367
being thrown from the bridge.
646
00:30:01,467 --> 00:30:04,570
It was appalling to think that
any human being would do this
647
00:30:04,670 --> 00:30:09,441
to another, particularly
with the obvious motive being
648
00:30:09,541 --> 00:30:15,547
just to conceal a robbery or the
identities of the perpetrators.
649
00:30:15,647 --> 00:30:19,018
If Dan Short's murder was
simply part of a bank robbery,
650
00:30:19,118 --> 00:30:21,320
why would the robbers choose
such a deliberately cruel
651
00:30:21,420 --> 00:30:23,956
way of killing their hostage?
652
00:30:24,056 --> 00:30:27,259
People no longer wondered if Dan
Short had robbed his own bank.
653
00:30:27,359 --> 00:30:28,827
But they did begin to
wonder if he might have
654
00:30:28,928 --> 00:30:31,163
had enemies bent on revenge.
655
00:30:31,263 --> 00:30:33,565
Could Dan Short's
bizarre death had
656
00:30:33,665 --> 00:30:39,438
been an execution with a bank
robbery used merely as a cover?
657
00:30:39,538 --> 00:30:41,673
Noel, Missouri--
population 1,200--
658
00:30:41,773 --> 00:30:43,876
is located just a few
miles from the Oklahoma
659
00:30:43,976 --> 00:30:45,477
and Arkansas borders.
660
00:30:45,577 --> 00:30:47,646
Its economy centers
around chicken farming.
661
00:30:50,849 --> 00:30:54,453
When Dan Short took over the
State Bank presidency in 1983,
662
00:30:54,553 --> 00:30:56,989
the local economy
was in bad shape.
663
00:30:57,089 --> 00:30:58,790
Dan had the tricky
job of balancing
664
00:30:58,891 --> 00:31:00,826
the needs of the local
people with the bank's
665
00:31:00,927 --> 00:31:02,461
need to turn a profit.
666
00:31:02,561 --> 00:31:05,164
In the process, he naturally
alienated some people.
667
00:31:05,264 --> 00:31:06,899
Dan, could I talk to
you about that appraisal?
668
00:31:06,999 --> 00:31:08,200
Sure.
Sure.
669
00:31:08,300 --> 00:31:09,468
DON DUNCAN: He had
some difficulties
670
00:31:09,568 --> 00:31:12,071
that he had to straighten
out in order for the bank
671
00:31:12,171 --> 00:31:14,573
to-- to function properly.
672
00:31:14,673 --> 00:31:17,109
There was repossessions,
restructuring,
673
00:31:17,209 --> 00:31:19,178
denial of credit.
674
00:31:19,278 --> 00:31:22,381
But even though he had
a difficult position,
675
00:31:22,481 --> 00:31:23,916
he was able to win
the people over.
676
00:31:24,016 --> 00:31:26,252
He became a friend
of the people.
677
00:31:26,352 --> 00:31:29,188
He wasn't particularly outgoing.
678
00:31:29,288 --> 00:31:30,923
He wasn't a back slapper.
679
00:31:31,023 --> 00:31:33,926
But people accepted
him for what he was--
680
00:31:34,026 --> 00:31:36,996
and that was just a
genuinely nice person.
681
00:31:37,096 --> 00:31:38,397
[sound of car starting]
682
00:31:38,497 --> 00:31:39,598
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Dan Short
683
00:31:39,698 --> 00:31:42,168
lived eight miles outside
of Noel in an extremely
684
00:31:42,268 --> 00:31:43,936
isolated location.
685
00:31:44,036 --> 00:31:45,871
On the night of the
robbery, he had a guest
686
00:31:45,972 --> 00:31:49,641
who left just before 11 PM.
687
00:31:49,741 --> 00:31:51,677
The FBI has attempted
to reconstruct
688
00:31:51,777 --> 00:31:55,681
what happened once Dan
Short was alone in his home.
689
00:31:55,781 --> 00:31:58,050
[knocking at door]
690
00:31:58,150 --> 00:32:00,852
They believe his abductor showed
up sometime between the hours
691
00:32:00,953 --> 00:32:03,956
of 11:00 PM at 1:30 AM.
692
00:32:04,056 --> 00:32:05,857
Could I use your
telephone, please?
693
00:32:05,958 --> 00:32:06,959
What?
694
00:32:07,059 --> 00:32:08,127
My car broke down up the road.
695
00:32:08,227 --> 00:32:09,495
May I use your telephone?
696
00:32:09,595 --> 00:32:10,796
LADELL FARLEY: Probably
the perpetrators
697
00:32:10,896 --> 00:32:11,998
went to his front door armed--
698
00:32:12,098 --> 00:32:13,299
Put up your hands!
699
00:32:13,399 --> 00:32:15,901
LADELL FARLEY: --and when
Mr. Short answered the door,
700
00:32:16,002 --> 00:32:19,705
they immediately restrained him
and later took him to the bank.
701
00:32:19,805 --> 00:32:21,007
We want the money.
702
00:32:24,243 --> 00:32:25,711
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
According to the FBI,
703
00:32:25,811 --> 00:32:28,147
Dan Short and his abductors
arrived at the bank
704
00:32:28,247 --> 00:32:31,450
around 2:00 AM.
705
00:32:31,550 --> 00:32:33,752
[sound of keys jingling]
706
00:32:33,852 --> 00:32:35,821
LADELL FARLEY: Indications
are that the perpetrators
707
00:32:35,921 --> 00:32:38,390
forced him to turn
the alarm off,
708
00:32:38,490 --> 00:32:41,027
to unlock the front doors--
709
00:32:41,127 --> 00:32:42,928
then after gaining
entry into the bank,
710
00:32:43,029 --> 00:32:46,065
dealt with the surveillance
camera to some extent and spray
711
00:32:46,165 --> 00:32:50,069
painting the lens, and turning
the camera around backwards.
712
00:32:52,871 --> 00:32:54,440
Hey, where's the money?
Open it then.
713
00:32:54,540 --> 00:32:55,341
Right.
714
00:32:55,441 --> 00:32:57,009
Come on!
715
00:32:57,109 --> 00:32:58,877
Here.
716
00:32:58,977 --> 00:33:01,347
LADELL FARLEY: The
perpetrators took only
717
00:33:01,447 --> 00:33:06,818
what cash they saw in the vault,
which was approximately $70,000
718
00:33:06,918 --> 00:33:08,587
including coins--
719
00:33:08,687 --> 00:33:10,456
And where's the
rest of the money?
720
00:33:10,556 --> 00:33:13,725
LADELL FARLEY: --leaving
behind approximately $100,000
721
00:33:13,825 --> 00:33:15,894
that Mr Short was aware of--
722
00:33:15,994 --> 00:33:19,665
led us to believe that he
was not willingly involved
723
00:33:19,765 --> 00:33:23,535
and probably did not volunteer
that the extra currency was
724
00:33:23,635 --> 00:33:26,705
there at the time
of the robbery.
725
00:33:26,805 --> 00:33:28,540
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): As
the robbers left the bank,
726
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,409
one of them fired at
the surveillance camera,
727
00:33:30,509 --> 00:33:31,810
disconnecting it.
728
00:33:31,910 --> 00:33:34,012
People who lived
nearby heard the shots.
729
00:33:34,113 --> 00:33:36,515
The time was shortly
before 3:00 AM.
730
00:33:36,615 --> 00:33:38,016
[gunshots]
731
00:33:40,119 --> 00:33:41,019
[car screeching]
732
00:33:43,055 --> 00:33:45,424
A few minutes later, on
the outskirts of town,
733
00:33:45,524 --> 00:33:49,461
a caravan of three vehicles
was cited by a local trucker.
734
00:33:49,561 --> 00:33:52,064
The first vehicle looked
like Dan Short's pickup.
735
00:33:56,235 --> 00:33:58,170
TRUCKER: As I was driving
south through town
736
00:33:58,270 --> 00:34:02,007
I'd seen the red pickup, with
two vehicles following it,
737
00:34:02,108 --> 00:34:04,076
cross the bridge.
738
00:34:04,176 --> 00:34:07,846
I didn't pay that much
attention to the ones behind it.
739
00:34:07,946 --> 00:34:12,151
I went on South, and the little
blue pickup passed me about 1/2
740
00:34:12,251 --> 00:34:13,419
a mile south.
741
00:34:13,519 --> 00:34:14,753
He'd cut me short.
742
00:34:14,853 --> 00:34:17,289
And as he cut me
short, I looked.
743
00:34:17,389 --> 00:34:19,057
He looked back out
of the back glass.
744
00:34:19,158 --> 00:34:21,093
I'd seen his face.
745
00:34:21,193 --> 00:34:24,296
He was a heavy set guy with
long hair and a beard--
746
00:34:24,396 --> 00:34:25,197
brown hair.
747
00:34:27,466 --> 00:34:28,767
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Only the killers
748
00:34:28,867 --> 00:34:31,537
know exactly what happened
during the next three hours.
749
00:34:31,637 --> 00:34:33,739
At some point, they
ditched Dan Short's pickup
750
00:34:33,839 --> 00:34:35,341
and put him in the van.
751
00:34:35,441 --> 00:34:37,676
There they chained
him to a kitchen chair
752
00:34:37,776 --> 00:34:38,610
with weights attached.
753
00:34:41,580 --> 00:34:44,015
LADELL FARLEY: It's very
possible that Mr. Short was
754
00:34:44,116 --> 00:34:47,319
even unconscious as they put him
into the chair, due to the fact
755
00:34:47,419 --> 00:34:51,423
that the chair was not a
strong piece of furniture
756
00:34:51,523 --> 00:34:54,760
and with a weight already
on it, any kind of struggle
757
00:34:54,860 --> 00:34:57,563
would have likely broken
the chair up prior
758
00:34:57,663 --> 00:35:00,766
to even arriving at the bridge.
759
00:35:05,371 --> 00:35:06,938
We know that Mr.
Short was alive when
760
00:35:07,038 --> 00:35:08,407
he was thrown into the lake.
761
00:35:08,507 --> 00:35:13,612
What we don't know is if he
was conscious or unconscious.
762
00:35:13,712 --> 00:35:18,784
But the fact he was not
gagged leads us to the belief
763
00:35:18,884 --> 00:35:21,953
that he was unconscious when
he was thrown to the lake.
764
00:35:32,164 --> 00:35:33,299
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): At 6:00 AM,
765
00:35:33,399 --> 00:35:35,701
witnesses cited a dark
van stopped on the bridge.
766
00:35:35,801 --> 00:35:38,604
But it sped away before they
could get a license number.
767
00:35:42,374 --> 00:35:44,310
Why had Dan Short's
abductors killed
768
00:35:44,410 --> 00:35:46,478
him in such a cruel manner?
769
00:35:46,578 --> 00:35:48,480
It was a question
no one could answer.
770
00:35:48,580 --> 00:35:50,516
But there were theories
that seemed to lead
771
00:35:50,616 --> 00:35:52,884
back to the banking business.
772
00:35:52,984 --> 00:35:53,885
I'm sorry.
773
00:35:53,985 --> 00:35:56,988
I'm going to have
to turn you down.
774
00:35:57,088 --> 00:35:59,124
DON DUNCAN: Oh, I'm certain that
there are some people out there
775
00:35:59,225 --> 00:36:02,328
that had some real animosity,
some hatred towards the State
776
00:36:02,428 --> 00:36:04,496
Bank of Noel and Dan Short.
777
00:36:04,596 --> 00:36:07,766
He had to deny people-- had
to deny credit to people.
778
00:36:07,866 --> 00:36:12,904
And the denial of credit
probably broke others.
779
00:36:13,004 --> 00:36:17,142
Dan had worked in, I
think, three other banks.
780
00:36:17,243 --> 00:36:20,346
Maybe something followed him
here from someplace else.
781
00:36:20,446 --> 00:36:23,114
Maybe he stumbled across
something in this area
782
00:36:23,215 --> 00:36:24,683
he shouldn't have--
783
00:36:24,783 --> 00:36:27,753
maybe a drug deal, maybe of a--
784
00:36:27,853 --> 00:36:29,755
money laundering.
785
00:36:29,855 --> 00:36:32,491
There's any number of things
that could have happened
786
00:36:32,591 --> 00:36:34,293
that none of us are aware of.
787
00:36:34,393 --> 00:36:36,695
And that's where the
confusion comes from.
788
00:36:36,795 --> 00:36:38,730
There just was no reason.
789
00:36:38,830 --> 00:36:40,632
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Police have few clues to go on,
790
00:36:40,732 --> 00:36:43,168
but they believe the
medium blue Chevy LUV may
791
00:36:43,269 --> 00:36:45,304
be vital to solving the case.
792
00:36:45,404 --> 00:36:47,906
One week before the robbery,
the LUV and its driver
793
00:36:48,006 --> 00:36:49,575
was sighted at a
local gas station
794
00:36:49,675 --> 00:36:51,910
by the same trucker
who saw them on night
795
00:36:52,010 --> 00:36:54,380
Dan Short was murdered.
796
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,215
Well, it was an older
model blue Chevrolet LUV,
797
00:36:57,316 --> 00:36:59,050
but it had a white
toolbox in the back.
798
00:36:59,150 --> 00:37:01,953
And they had the Oklahoma tags.
799
00:37:02,053 --> 00:37:04,290
I looked at the tag, and I
looked back up at the guy,
800
00:37:04,390 --> 00:37:06,258
you know, as he turned around.
801
00:37:06,358 --> 00:37:09,861
He was just a heavy set
guy, big through the chest,
802
00:37:09,961 --> 00:37:13,098
and big neck, and big
face, and lots of hair,
803
00:37:13,198 --> 00:37:13,999
and lots of beard.
804
00:37:15,967 --> 00:37:16,968
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): The LUV
805
00:37:17,068 --> 00:37:19,338
was seen again four
days before the robbery
806
00:37:19,438 --> 00:37:21,273
near Dan Short's house.
807
00:37:21,373 --> 00:37:23,942
Dan had told his brother that
he felt he was being staked
808
00:37:24,042 --> 00:37:25,777
out-- that on one
occasion his home
809
00:37:25,877 --> 00:37:28,747
had actually been broken into.
810
00:37:28,847 --> 00:37:31,650
Because of this, authorities
believe that Dan's killers had
811
00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:35,186
planned everything in advance.
812
00:37:35,287 --> 00:37:36,922
The bank robbery
may have been only
813
00:37:37,022 --> 00:37:38,657
a cover up for his execution.
814
00:37:38,757 --> 00:37:42,260
The robbers' amateur behavior
supports this theory.
815
00:37:42,361 --> 00:37:45,964
They left behind
numerous fingerprints.
816
00:37:46,064 --> 00:37:49,335
They stole heavy bags of coins.
817
00:37:49,435 --> 00:37:52,538
And they fired
unnecessary shots.
818
00:37:52,638 --> 00:37:54,005
[gunshots]
819
00:37:56,542 --> 00:37:58,777
BOB SHORT: I want them to
find the people that did this
820
00:37:58,877 --> 00:38:05,283
and to explain to me why
they had to kill my brother
821
00:38:05,384 --> 00:38:07,919
over $50,000 or $60,000.
822
00:38:08,019 --> 00:38:10,322
And I want to know
why that happened.
823
00:38:34,079 --> 00:38:35,547
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
When we return,
824
00:38:35,647 --> 00:38:38,016
the incredible tale of
a Loch Ness-type monster
825
00:38:38,116 --> 00:38:40,552
that just might exist
in British Columbia.
826
00:38:40,652 --> 00:38:43,088
Film footage shown for the
first time on television
827
00:38:43,188 --> 00:38:45,090
appears to reveal
this creature that has
828
00:38:45,190 --> 00:38:46,658
eluded searchers for decades.
829
00:38:46,758 --> 00:38:50,996
[theme music playing]
830
00:38:57,403 --> 00:38:59,538
Over the last century,
renowned scientist
831
00:38:59,638 --> 00:39:02,007
and amateur investigators
had grappled with the mystery
832
00:39:02,107 --> 00:39:04,676
of the Loch Ness Monster,
that elusive lake
833
00:39:04,776 --> 00:39:08,246
creature in Scotland,
sighted more than 3,000 times
834
00:39:08,346 --> 00:39:11,216
over the last 50
years, but never so far
835
00:39:11,316 --> 00:39:15,120
adequately explained.
836
00:39:15,220 --> 00:39:17,456
Some zoologists now
actually theorize
837
00:39:17,556 --> 00:39:19,224
that the monster's
home, Loch Ness,
838
00:39:19,324 --> 00:39:22,160
may be connected by underwater
channels to the sea,
839
00:39:22,260 --> 00:39:25,030
and that the Loch Ness Monster
is in fact the sea serpent
840
00:39:25,130 --> 00:39:27,032
of some kind traveling
back and forth
841
00:39:27,132 --> 00:39:30,368
between the lake and the ocean.
842
00:39:30,469 --> 00:39:33,338
The zoologists also theorize
that hundreds of other lakes
843
00:39:33,439 --> 00:39:36,742
located in the same approximate
latitude band as Loch Ness
844
00:39:36,842 --> 00:39:39,110
could have similar
connections to the sea,
845
00:39:39,210 --> 00:39:42,347
and could they also be home
to mysterious sea creatures.
846
00:39:45,484 --> 00:39:47,486
There have been reported
sightings of creatures
847
00:39:47,586 --> 00:39:50,088
like the Loch Ness Monster
in approximately 60
848
00:39:50,188 --> 00:39:52,257
other lakes around the world.
849
00:39:52,357 --> 00:39:53,959
For example, here
in Lake Storsjon,
850
00:39:54,059 --> 00:39:57,028
Sweden, Lake Labynkyr
in the Soviet Union,
851
00:39:57,128 --> 00:39:59,064
and Lake Kussharo, Japan.
852
00:39:59,164 --> 00:40:01,533
All these lakes fall into
the same latitude band
853
00:40:01,633 --> 00:40:02,968
as Loch Ness in Scotland.
854
00:40:06,037 --> 00:40:08,306
So far there's been no
scientific verification
855
00:40:08,406 --> 00:40:10,175
for any of the sightings.
856
00:40:10,275 --> 00:40:12,478
The recent photographic
evidence of a Canadian lake
857
00:40:12,578 --> 00:40:14,846
in the same latitude
band suggests
858
00:40:14,946 --> 00:40:17,348
the bizarre but somehow
enchanting thought
859
00:40:17,449 --> 00:40:19,485
that here in North
America we may have a Loch
860
00:40:19,585 --> 00:40:21,086
Ness Monster of our very own.
861
00:40:24,590 --> 00:40:27,325
Lake Okanagan, located in the
Canadian province of British
862
00:40:27,425 --> 00:40:29,628
Columbia, has for
more than 300 years
863
00:40:29,728 --> 00:40:31,463
been the reputed
home of a water beast
864
00:40:31,563 --> 00:40:34,065
which seems to
resemble a sea serpent.
865
00:40:34,165 --> 00:40:38,069
The lake is 79 miles long,
and in places, 800 feet deep--
866
00:40:38,169 --> 00:40:41,907
an ample home for
a large creature.
867
00:40:42,007 --> 00:40:44,876
In the 1700s, local
Indians called the beast,
868
00:40:44,976 --> 00:40:47,145
Naitaka, or Lake Demon.
869
00:40:47,245 --> 00:40:49,214
They routinely
sacrificed small animals
870
00:40:49,314 --> 00:40:52,751
in order to appease the demon.
871
00:40:52,851 --> 00:40:55,687
Today, 300 years later,
the local population
872
00:40:55,787 --> 00:40:58,490
still fervently believes in
the existence of the creature
873
00:40:58,590 --> 00:41:01,927
which they have dubbed Ogopogo.
874
00:41:02,027 --> 00:41:04,763
HORACE B. SIMPSON: I saw
it back in 1937 as we were
875
00:41:04,863 --> 00:41:06,097
facing the lake at that time.
876
00:41:06,197 --> 00:41:10,235
And there's this head of
something or other swimming
877
00:41:10,335 --> 00:41:11,436
around out there.
878
00:41:11,537 --> 00:41:16,975
And we were all convinced
that it was the Ogopogo.
879
00:41:17,075 --> 00:41:19,745
Very big-- very--
it was very scary.
880
00:41:19,845 --> 00:41:23,615
Oh, about two feet out of
the water, the head part,
881
00:41:23,715 --> 00:41:26,718
and the head itself was brown.
882
00:41:26,818 --> 00:41:31,256
And then it-- the kind of a
neck part went down the water.
883
00:41:31,356 --> 00:41:33,792
And it had a great
big long tail.
884
00:41:33,892 --> 00:41:37,395
Like all you could see was
just the-- just a little bit
885
00:41:37,495 --> 00:41:40,632
of a hump, sort of just
coming out of the-- out
886
00:41:40,732 --> 00:41:42,100
of the splashes and stuff.
887
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,835
And it went on for a little bit.
888
00:41:43,935 --> 00:41:44,870
And like we-- we saw it.
889
00:41:44,970 --> 00:41:46,204
And then we didn't
know what to do.
890
00:41:46,304 --> 00:41:47,272
- And then it just went back in.
- And then it went under.
891
00:41:47,372 --> 00:41:48,640
So we just got out
of there, because we
892
00:41:48,740 --> 00:41:51,509
were like scared in the canoe.
893
00:41:51,610 --> 00:41:53,078
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Hundreds of sightings
894
00:41:53,178 --> 00:41:55,881
of Ogopogo had been reported.
895
00:41:55,981 --> 00:42:02,821
But no film footage was
ever captured until 1968.
896
00:42:02,921 --> 00:42:04,489
That year, a saw
mill worker named
897
00:42:04,590 --> 00:42:07,225
Art Folden was driving
beside the lake with his wife
898
00:42:07,325 --> 00:42:10,361
when he noticed something odd.
899
00:42:10,461 --> 00:42:12,530
ART FOLDEN: We were on our
way back from holidays,
900
00:42:12,631 --> 00:42:18,704
and we'd seen something in
the lake near the shore.
901
00:42:18,804 --> 00:42:20,939
And I said, hey, look--
902
00:42:21,039 --> 00:42:22,173
just jokingly.
903
00:42:22,273 --> 00:42:23,374
There's Ogopogo.
904
00:42:23,474 --> 00:42:25,777
And she says, aw, it looks
like a bunch of ducks.
905
00:42:25,877 --> 00:42:26,978
Anyway, I said.
906
00:42:27,078 --> 00:42:29,347
I'm going to stop and see
if I can get a picture.
907
00:42:29,447 --> 00:42:33,484
I stopped filming every time
it dove under the water.
908
00:42:33,585 --> 00:42:37,122
And as it reappeared,
I began to film again.
909
00:42:37,222 --> 00:42:40,058
Yeah, it's Ogopogo, I tell you.
910
00:42:40,158 --> 00:42:43,962
The film shows a
dark object diving,
911
00:42:44,062 --> 00:42:47,599
reappearing in a sequence of
moves that indicates that it's
912
00:42:47,699 --> 00:42:50,301
moving out from shallow
water into deeper
913
00:42:50,401 --> 00:42:54,205
water for a large dive
into deeper water,
914
00:42:54,305 --> 00:42:56,241
and then did not reappear.
915
00:42:58,509 --> 00:43:00,311
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Because the pine trees on shore
916
00:43:00,411 --> 00:43:03,314
are approximately 25
feet tall, the dark mass
917
00:43:03,414 --> 00:43:06,785
in Art Folden's film is
estimated to be 40 feet long--
918
00:43:06,885 --> 00:43:08,787
about the same size as a
creature in the Loch Ness
919
00:43:08,887 --> 00:43:09,688
sitings.
920
00:43:14,993 --> 00:43:18,196
In 1980, 12 years after
the Folden film was made,
921
00:43:18,296 --> 00:43:22,400
a group of vacationers thought
they too had sited Ogopogo.
922
00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:26,638
One of them, Larry Thal,
had a home movie camera.
923
00:43:26,738 --> 00:43:28,339
LARRY THAL: I was taking
pictures of the kids,
924
00:43:28,439 --> 00:43:29,675
and the wife, and--
925
00:43:29,775 --> 00:43:30,776
bingo!
926
00:43:30,876 --> 00:43:32,978
All of a sudden, the
Ogopogo-- supposedly--
927
00:43:33,078 --> 00:43:35,847
whatever it may have been--
appeared on Lake Okanagan.
928
00:43:35,947 --> 00:43:39,150
And I was right
there with my camera.
929
00:43:39,250 --> 00:43:42,553
It was a strange sight
in the-- in the water.
930
00:43:45,891 --> 00:43:47,759
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Played
slow motion, the Thal film
931
00:43:47,859 --> 00:43:51,062
reveals intriguing details.
932
00:43:51,162 --> 00:43:55,266
ARELENE GAAL: Larry's film
shows how the animal swims.
933
00:43:55,366 --> 00:43:59,504
It shows the speed and the
massive waves that it creates.
934
00:43:59,604 --> 00:44:01,372
It actually shows
that it has some form
935
00:44:01,472 --> 00:44:06,011
of appendage that seems to
pop up every now and then.
936
00:44:06,111 --> 00:44:07,545
But the interesting
thing, again,
937
00:44:07,645 --> 00:44:09,981
is that the animals
that Art Folden shot
938
00:44:10,081 --> 00:44:12,117
and the animal that
Larry Thal shot,
939
00:44:12,217 --> 00:44:13,484
they're basically the same size.
940
00:44:13,584 --> 00:44:15,386
They're very large creatures.
941
00:44:15,486 --> 00:44:20,625
And in Larry's film, we're
seeing a creature at least 40
942
00:44:20,726 --> 00:44:22,728
to 60 feet from head to tail--
943
00:44:22,828 --> 00:44:25,463
no doubt-- no doubt.
944
00:44:25,563 --> 00:44:28,433
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Nine
years later, on July 18, 1989,
945
00:44:28,533 --> 00:44:31,737
78-year-old Clem Chaplain showed
his son, Ken, an inlet where
946
00:44:31,837 --> 00:44:34,405
he thought he had seen Ogopogo.
947
00:44:34,505 --> 00:44:36,908
The creature was going to
and from a boom of logs
948
00:44:37,008 --> 00:44:39,344
at the mouth of a nearby creek.
949
00:44:39,444 --> 00:44:43,581
Ken took his video camera
and staked out the area.
950
00:44:43,681 --> 00:44:44,716
It paid off.
951
00:44:44,816 --> 00:44:46,251
And this is the first
time his videotape had
952
00:44:46,351 --> 00:44:47,853
ever been seen on television.
953
00:44:47,953 --> 00:44:50,421
What Ken Chaplin taped was
a creature that appeared
954
00:44:50,521 --> 00:44:52,623
to be hairless,
greenish in color,
955
00:44:52,724 --> 00:44:55,126
spotted, and about
15 feet long--
956
00:44:55,226 --> 00:45:00,198
less than 1/2 the size measured
in the Folden and Thal films.
957
00:45:00,298 --> 00:45:04,235
KEN CHAPLIN: I was probably
75 to 100 feet away.
958
00:45:04,335 --> 00:45:06,805
I saw its features very
clearly as being snake
959
00:45:06,905 --> 00:45:08,907
or lizard-like-- no furry hair.
960
00:45:09,007 --> 00:45:12,510
And you can see the body
thrashing behind it--
961
00:45:12,610 --> 00:45:14,780
and then broaden its tail
section out of the water.
962
00:45:20,085 --> 00:45:22,888
Dad and I were
stunned into silence.
963
00:45:22,988 --> 00:45:24,022
And then dad turned to me.
964
00:45:24,122 --> 00:45:26,091
And he said, you know,
if that tail hit a man.
965
00:45:26,191 --> 00:45:26,992
It'd probably kill him.
966
00:45:27,092 --> 00:45:27,959
And I agreed.
967
00:45:28,059 --> 00:45:31,429
That was our
impression as to size.
968
00:45:31,529 --> 00:45:33,098
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Ken took his camera back
969
00:45:33,198 --> 00:45:35,901
to the inlet a few days later,
along with his daughter, Corry,
970
00:45:36,001 --> 00:45:37,535
and his father.
971
00:45:37,635 --> 00:45:39,604
Once again, Ken
videotaped the creature.
972
00:45:44,142 --> 00:45:45,676
KEN CHAPLIN: It appeared
swimming parallel
973
00:45:45,777 --> 00:45:51,682
to the shore and swam right past
us at maybe 60 to 75 feet away.
974
00:45:51,783 --> 00:45:53,251
And I got that on video.
975
00:45:53,351 --> 00:45:55,386
And dad, and Corry, and
I saw it very clearly.
976
00:46:00,491 --> 00:46:02,493
CORRY CHAPLIN: It has a
long, long snakelike body.
977
00:46:02,593 --> 00:46:05,296
I estimated about the
size of a long car--
978
00:46:05,396 --> 00:46:08,299
maybe 15 feet--
definitely like a snake--
979
00:46:08,399 --> 00:46:10,535
its head poking straight
up, and its body swimming.
980
00:46:10,635 --> 00:46:12,303
And it starts to undulate
through the water.
981
00:46:18,009 --> 00:46:19,210
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Ken Chaplin's
982
00:46:19,310 --> 00:46:21,412
video caused a media sensation.
983
00:46:21,512 --> 00:46:23,614
Time Magazine, as well
as several newspapers
984
00:46:23,714 --> 00:46:25,650
in the United States,
carried the amazing story
985
00:46:25,750 --> 00:46:28,786
of what appeared to be
a new Loch Ness Monster.
986
00:46:28,887 --> 00:46:30,355
However, opinion
was widely divided.
987
00:46:30,455 --> 00:46:35,426
And experts were called
in to analyze the video.
988
00:46:35,526 --> 00:46:36,995
It was not a hoax.
989
00:46:37,095 --> 00:46:39,597
There was nothing in there that
gives the impression that this
990
00:46:39,697 --> 00:46:41,599
was fabricated in any way.
991
00:46:41,699 --> 00:46:43,434
It was a live, living animal.
992
00:46:43,534 --> 00:46:46,838
The discussion revolved around
the two species most likely.
993
00:46:46,938 --> 00:46:50,575
And that is a river
otter and a beaver.
994
00:46:50,675 --> 00:46:53,544
Ogopogo could exist
elsewhere in Okanagan Lake.
995
00:46:53,644 --> 00:46:59,084
But in our view, this particular
video was of a beaver.
996
00:46:59,184 --> 00:47:00,318
KEN CHAPLIN: You
know, the largest
997
00:47:00,418 --> 00:47:03,354
recorded beaver in the
interior is 4 1/2 feet long.
998
00:47:03,454 --> 00:47:06,124
Now at 75 to 100 feet
away, I just can't see dad
999
00:47:06,224 --> 00:47:09,227
and I'd be-- being
very impressed.
1000
00:47:09,327 --> 00:47:10,929
A beaver, when it
slaps its tail,
1001
00:47:11,029 --> 00:47:13,231
the head is either
leveled to the water,
1002
00:47:13,331 --> 00:47:15,833
or else it's already
starting to go down.
1003
00:47:15,934 --> 00:47:18,904
Now in this sequence here,
the video that I did,
1004
00:47:19,004 --> 00:47:25,010
it's arking its head up
while the tail comes down.
1005
00:47:25,110 --> 00:47:27,345
On this side we have
a still photograph
1006
00:47:27,445 --> 00:47:30,748
taken from the video
recording by Mr. Chaplin.
1007
00:47:30,848 --> 00:47:33,084
On this side, we have
a color photograph
1008
00:47:33,184 --> 00:47:36,321
of a beaver with his tail
held vertically in the air
1009
00:47:36,421 --> 00:47:39,557
just prior to a tail slap.
1010
00:47:39,657 --> 00:47:42,327
The two photographs
seem for the most part
1011
00:47:42,427 --> 00:47:44,695
to be mirror images
of one another.
1012
00:47:44,795 --> 00:47:46,797
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Closer
comparison to the photographs,
1013
00:47:46,898 --> 00:47:49,400
however, does appear to
substantiate Ken Chaplin's
1014
00:47:49,500 --> 00:47:52,003
point that the creature he
saw raised his head prior
1015
00:47:52,103 --> 00:47:54,005
to slapping its tail,
whereas a beaver's
1016
00:47:54,105 --> 00:47:57,142
head is at water level.
1017
00:47:57,242 --> 00:48:00,545
Also, Ken says the creature he
and his family saw was 15 feet
1018
00:48:00,645 --> 00:48:02,613
long-- not 4 like a beaver--
1019
00:48:02,713 --> 00:48:04,983
and had a long, snake-like body.
1020
00:48:05,083 --> 00:48:09,487
He also said it did not have
fur and was green in color.
1021
00:48:09,587 --> 00:48:12,223
I've asked myself
thousands of times,
1022
00:48:12,323 --> 00:48:14,159
is there a possibility
I could be mistaken?
1023
00:48:14,259 --> 00:48:16,995
And I just can't see
where I could be.
1024
00:48:17,095 --> 00:48:20,798
For those who want to call
it a beaver, I'll say, no way.
1025
00:48:20,898 --> 00:48:21,699
An otter?
1026
00:48:21,799 --> 00:48:23,701
I can't buy it.
1027
00:48:23,801 --> 00:48:25,270
Miniature Ogopogo?
1028
00:48:25,370 --> 00:48:27,805
In all probability.
1029
00:48:27,905 --> 00:48:29,140
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Is it possible
1030
00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:31,176
that there are several
creatures living in the lake,
1031
00:48:31,276 --> 00:48:33,178
each of varying
size, all belonging
1032
00:48:33,278 --> 00:48:36,714
to the same unknown
zoological family?
1033
00:48:36,814 --> 00:48:38,883
Experts may disagree
on the Chaplin footage.
1034
00:48:38,984 --> 00:48:40,851
But there has still been
no adequate explanation
1035
00:48:40,952 --> 00:48:42,753
for the large creatures
seen surfacing
1036
00:48:42,853 --> 00:48:45,423
in Art Folden's film--
1037
00:48:45,523 --> 00:48:50,228
or clearly churning up a wake
in the Larry Thal footage.
1038
00:48:50,328 --> 00:48:52,663
In addition, hundreds of
other sightings over the years
1039
00:48:52,763 --> 00:48:54,399
attest of the
presence of something
1040
00:48:54,499 --> 00:48:57,068
unusual in Lake Okanagan.
1041
00:48:57,168 --> 00:49:01,406
I would be delighted to
find that Ogopogo really
1042
00:49:01,506 --> 00:49:03,174
existed in Okanagan Lake.
1043
00:49:03,274 --> 00:49:06,577
And I would encourage
everybody to keep their--
1044
00:49:06,677 --> 00:49:10,081
not only their minds
open, but their eyes open
1045
00:49:10,181 --> 00:49:11,949
when they're in the Okanagan.
1046
00:49:12,050 --> 00:49:14,619
Who knows what really
exciting wildlife
1047
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,787
encounter that they may enjoy?
1048
00:49:20,691 --> 00:49:23,261
Is Ogopogo real?
1049
00:49:23,361 --> 00:49:25,130
Well, the Canadian
government has declared
1050
00:49:25,230 --> 00:49:27,065
Ogopogo an endangered species.
1051
00:49:27,165 --> 00:49:29,300
And hunting it is
against the law.
1052
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,736
Most of the people who live
on the shores of Lake Okanagan
1053
00:49:31,836 --> 00:49:33,638
need no further proof.
1054
00:49:33,738 --> 00:49:36,441
For them, Ogopogo
is very real indeed.
1055
00:49:44,615 --> 00:49:46,684
For every mystery,
there is someone
1056
00:49:46,784 --> 00:49:48,919
somewhere who knows the truth.
1057
00:49:49,020 --> 00:49:50,521
Perhaps that someone
was watching.
1058
00:49:50,621 --> 00:49:52,323
Perhaps it's you.
1059
00:49:52,423 --> 00:49:57,462
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