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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,000 CBR900RR TOO BIG TO FAIL (2011) 2 00:00:04,473 --> 00:00:08,208 We have no intention of dismantling the regulatory agencies. 3 00:00:08,209 --> 00:00:10,210 However, we must come to grips with... 4 00:00:10,211 --> 00:00:12,446 inefficient and burdensome regulations. 5 00:00:12,447 --> 00:00:14,314 We will eliminate those... 6 00:00:14,315 --> 00:00:16,267 that are unproductive and unnecessary. 7 00:00:16,551 --> 00:00:18,584 Tearing down these antiquated walls... 8 00:00:18,585 --> 00:00:21,053 and granting banks significant new authority. 9 00:00:21,054 --> 00:00:23,422 In a victory for the banking industry, 10 00:00:23,423 --> 00:00:26,258 Congress has approved legislation which will allow... 11 00:00:26,259 --> 00:00:28,160 commercial and investment banks to merge... 12 00:00:28,161 --> 00:00:30,829 and form institutions of unprecedented size... 13 00:00:30,830 --> 00:00:32,347 and global reach. 14 00:00:35,066 --> 00:00:37,100 I think it's very important... 15 00:00:37,101 --> 00:00:40,069 for us not to introduce... 16 00:00:40,070 --> 00:00:41,870 regulation for regulation's sake. 17 00:00:41,871 --> 00:00:44,739 I do believe in the American dream. 18 00:00:44,740 --> 00:00:47,692 Owning a home is a part of that dream. 19 00:00:49,778 --> 00:00:51,579 We are taking action... 20 00:00:51,580 --> 00:00:54,081 to bring many thousands of Americans... 21 00:00:54,082 --> 00:00:56,149 closer to owning a home. 22 00:00:56,150 --> 00:00:58,351 This project not only is good... 23 00:00:58,352 --> 00:00:59,919 for the soul of the country. 24 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:01,853 It's good for the pocketbook of the country as well. 25 00:01:01,854 --> 00:01:04,822 The housing market has reached frantic proportions. 26 00:01:04,823 --> 00:01:08,025 It seems that everybody is building, buying or selling. 27 00:01:08,026 --> 00:01:11,128 The Dow and the S&P both breaking records, 28 00:01:11,129 --> 00:01:15,264 profits soared 93% at Goldman Sachs this year. 29 00:01:15,265 --> 00:01:18,302 Hotshot traders and bankers can expect to take home... 30 00:01:18,303 --> 00:01:22,739 10... 25... and in some cases 50 million dollars. 31 00:01:22,740 --> 00:01:25,608 Things that are too good to be true, are. 32 00:01:25,609 --> 00:01:28,410 - When you see something coming... - The real estate bubble. 33 00:01:28,411 --> 00:01:29,911 - Housing bubble... - Bubble. 34 00:01:29,912 --> 00:01:33,214 Don't put it off. take action immediately. 35 00:01:33,215 --> 00:01:36,400 Will there be a soft landing or will the bubble burst? 36 00:01:39,820 --> 00:01:42,655 The new story... the mortgage meltdown. 37 00:01:42,656 --> 00:01:45,391 This morning in the mortgage meltdown, new numbers showing... 38 00:01:45,392 --> 00:01:48,660 that a record number of Americans are losing their homes. 39 00:01:48,661 --> 00:01:50,662 More than 70 mortgage companies have failed... 40 00:01:50,663 --> 00:01:52,463 in the last few months in America. 41 00:01:52,464 --> 00:01:55,465 and now the biggest of the big companies... the Bear Stearns... 42 00:01:55,466 --> 00:01:57,883 the big banks are caught holding the bag. 43 00:02:00,970 --> 00:02:03,837 The fifth largest investment bank in the country, 44 00:02:03,838 --> 00:02:05,539 Bear Stearns, is being sold 45 00:02:05,540 --> 00:02:08,777 for just $2 a share to J.P. Morgan. 46 00:02:08,778 --> 00:02:10,778 It's being assisted by the government 47 00:02:10,779 --> 00:02:13,483 which is stepping in to guarantee some $30 billion 48 00:02:13,484 --> 00:02:16,403 in Bear's toxic real estate assets. 49 00:02:18,756 --> 00:02:21,157 You've got to imagine that Hank Paulson 50 00:02:21,158 --> 00:02:23,493 didn't think he signed up for this 51 00:02:23,494 --> 00:02:25,427 when President Bush picked him 52 00:02:25,428 --> 00:02:27,595 to become Treasury Secretary. 53 00:02:27,596 --> 00:02:29,862 Hank Paulson may now have to undo 54 00:02:29,863 --> 00:02:31,863 some of the deregulation measures... 55 00:02:31,864 --> 00:02:33,965 that he and his peers on Wall Street pushed through 56 00:02:33,966 --> 00:02:37,134 when he ran Goldman. 57 00:02:37,135 --> 00:02:39,169 Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson 58 00:02:39,170 --> 00:02:41,171 telling Matt Lauer this morning 59 00:02:41,172 --> 00:02:44,241 "We're all over it. I've got great confidence in our markets. 60 00:02:44,242 --> 00:02:46,109 They're resilient. They're flexible". 61 00:02:46,110 --> 00:02:48,244 Ali, the truth is that Bear Stearns is... 62 00:02:48,245 --> 00:02:50,913 only a very small fraction of this story. 63 00:02:50,914 --> 00:02:52,914 our economy could face 64 00:02:52,915 --> 00:02:55,467 far worse than a recession. 65 00:02:57,620 --> 00:02:59,921 In the wake of Bear's collapse, 66 00:02:59,922 --> 00:03:02,524 Lehman Brothers is scrambling to reassure investors 67 00:03:02,525 --> 00:03:04,826 about the impact of the mortgage crisis 68 00:03:04,827 --> 00:03:06,627 on its own assets, shares of the firm 69 00:03:06,628 --> 00:03:08,463 under a great deal of pressure this morning. 70 00:03:08,464 --> 00:03:11,633 Dick Fuld, a 39-year veteran of Lehman... 71 00:03:11,634 --> 00:03:14,836 and the longest-running CEO of a major investment bank on Wall Street, 72 00:03:14,837 --> 00:03:18,805 has pulled the firm back from the brink during other crises. 73 00:03:18,806 --> 00:03:21,474 But today, for the first time that I'm hearing it, 74 00:03:21,475 --> 00:03:24,210 investors are questioning his leadership. 75 00:03:24,211 --> 00:03:25,679 - Motherfucker. - One key question... 76 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,313 investors have for Lehman Brothers: 77 00:03:27,314 --> 00:03:30,765 What's the true earnings power of this investment bank's business? 78 00:03:36,622 --> 00:03:39,758 Hey. 79 00:03:39,759 --> 00:03:43,194 Get up here. We gotta start stacking sandbags. 80 00:03:43,195 --> 00:03:44,529 What are you talking about? 81 00:03:44,530 --> 00:03:47,097 We're down 21%. On paper, 82 00:03:47,098 --> 00:03:49,917 I just lost 90 million dollars personally. 83 00:03:50,901 --> 00:03:53,202 With investors pummeling Lehman shares, 84 00:03:53,203 --> 00:03:55,271 the big question this morning is... 85 00:03:55,272 --> 00:03:57,272 what options does Fuld have? 86 00:03:57,273 --> 00:03:59,641 So far he has failed to raise new capital... 87 00:03:59,642 --> 00:04:02,310 while virtually all of his rivals have already done so. 88 00:04:02,311 --> 00:04:04,711 And now hedge fund manager David Einhorn... 89 00:04:04,712 --> 00:04:07,248 is publicly questioning the accuracy of the firm's numbers. 90 00:04:07,249 --> 00:04:08,415 Anything good? 91 00:04:08,416 --> 00:04:12,618 It's a red-tailed hawk, the first one this year. 92 00:04:12,619 --> 00:04:14,185 Dick Fuld's on one. 93 00:04:14,186 --> 00:04:16,420 They haven't been able to provide credible answers. 94 00:04:16,421 --> 00:04:18,456 So let's go through a couple of those... 95 00:04:18,457 --> 00:04:20,741 what you call discrepancies, because... 96 00:04:24,128 --> 00:04:25,594 Tough morning? 97 00:04:25,595 --> 00:04:28,596 We show top-quality earnings. We beat every prediction. 98 00:04:28,597 --> 00:04:30,864 - Yeah. - It's the damn short-sellers. 99 00:04:30,865 --> 00:04:32,933 You know the game... short and distort. 100 00:04:32,934 --> 00:04:35,803 They're rumormongers. And they're making a killing. 101 00:04:35,804 --> 00:04:37,905 What are your plans for a capital raise? 102 00:04:37,906 --> 00:04:41,541 We're way ahead of you. Now let me be clear: 103 00:04:41,542 --> 00:04:43,993 we don't need the cash. 104 00:04:45,545 --> 00:04:47,913 You know, it's about perception. 105 00:04:47,914 --> 00:04:49,615 Buffett, Buffett. 106 00:04:49,616 --> 00:04:53,551 We're thinking of reaching out to Warren Buffett. 107 00:04:53,552 --> 00:04:54,551 Great. 108 00:04:54,552 --> 00:04:58,354 You and Buffett go back, right? 109 00:04:58,355 --> 00:05:00,890 Do me a favor and call him. 110 00:05:00,891 --> 00:05:03,059 Tell him Lehman is rock solid. 111 00:05:03,060 --> 00:05:07,213 As Treasury Secretary, I can't advocate for a specific investment. 112 00:05:09,899 --> 00:05:15,102 Hank, you want me to raise capital or not? 113 00:05:15,103 --> 00:05:18,004 Lehman Brothers is a hell of a lot bigger than Bear Stearns. 114 00:05:18,005 --> 00:05:20,140 The market is terrified. 115 00:05:20,141 --> 00:05:22,876 When I was running Goldman, I never even conceived 116 00:05:22,877 --> 00:05:25,611 of asking the Treasury Secretary to cut a deal for me. 117 00:05:25,612 --> 00:05:27,078 Yeah, but the Bear bailout created... 118 00:05:27,079 --> 00:05:28,446 Please don't call it a bailout. 119 00:05:28,447 --> 00:05:32,483 Okay, the very large Bear Stearns purchase assistance package 120 00:05:32,484 --> 00:05:34,486 created an expectation. 121 00:05:34,487 --> 00:05:36,354 Fuld's counting on direct intervention from you. 122 00:05:36,355 --> 00:05:38,723 Uh, Buffett's a simple solution. 123 00:05:38,724 --> 00:05:41,826 I think you make the call. 124 00:05:41,827 --> 00:05:44,161 As what? Warren's friend? 125 00:05:44,162 --> 00:05:46,713 His former banker? The Treasury Secretary? 126 00:05:46,798 --> 00:05:49,198 No. Fuld's calling him. 127 00:05:49,199 --> 00:05:51,066 Hopefully he'll jump in and we can all relax. 128 00:05:51,067 --> 00:05:53,068 Relax? We just buried one investment bank. 129 00:05:53,069 --> 00:05:55,104 We got another one that's barely breathing. 130 00:05:55,105 --> 00:05:57,806 This is a confidence game. People lose faith in Lehman... 131 00:05:57,807 --> 00:05:59,807 these banks are gonna drop like dominos... 132 00:05:59,808 --> 00:06:02,911 and I don't have the authority to do a thing about it. 133 00:06:02,912 --> 00:06:04,880 We're late. 134 00:06:04,881 --> 00:06:06,814 We've been late on everything. 135 00:06:06,815 --> 00:06:09,783 Neel's team is working on some kind of a disaster scenario. 136 00:06:09,784 --> 00:06:11,685 We're calling it the break-the-glass plan... 137 00:06:11,686 --> 00:06:14,354 what to ask Congress for if your back's against the wall. 138 00:06:14,355 --> 00:06:15,871 Money... 139 00:06:16,756 --> 00:06:19,591 Is what you ask them for. 140 00:06:19,592 --> 00:06:23,027 The problem is, Congress won't move 141 00:06:23,028 --> 00:06:24,829 until we've already hit the iceberg, 142 00:06:24,830 --> 00:06:26,397 and at that point it may be too late. 143 00:06:26,398 --> 00:06:28,399 So you're saying, with the full weight 144 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,003 of the United States Treasury behind me, 145 00:06:31,004 --> 00:06:34,772 all I can do is call Warren Buffett? 146 00:06:34,773 --> 00:06:38,742 Hi, Warren. It's Hank. 147 00:06:38,743 --> 00:06:41,511 I understand you've been talking to Dick Fuld. 148 00:06:41,512 --> 00:06:44,213 You know my misgivings, Hank, 149 00:06:44,214 --> 00:06:47,049 about investment banks. 150 00:06:47,050 --> 00:06:49,784 As soon as they started trading for themselves, 151 00:06:49,785 --> 00:06:51,852 the risk managers lost control. 152 00:06:51,853 --> 00:06:54,621 I had a very unpleasant time with Solomon Brothers. 153 00:06:54,622 --> 00:06:56,873 That's fair enough. 154 00:06:57,858 --> 00:06:59,493 But we both know 155 00:06:59,494 --> 00:07:02,128 that investment banking is a profitable business. 156 00:07:02,129 --> 00:07:05,764 I figure it made you a billionaire somewhat. 157 00:07:05,765 --> 00:07:08,233 I gotta believe that if the price was right, 158 00:07:08,234 --> 00:07:09,969 you wouldn't just walk away. 159 00:07:09,970 --> 00:07:12,705 You know a good deal when you see one. 160 00:07:12,706 --> 00:07:14,673 What say you? 161 00:07:14,674 --> 00:07:17,459 I gotta leave that to your judgment. 162 00:07:18,477 --> 00:07:20,545 People act like we're crack dealers. 163 00:07:20,546 --> 00:07:22,546 Nobody put a gun to anybody's head and said, 164 00:07:22,547 --> 00:07:24,448 "hey, Nimrod, buy a house you can't afford. 165 00:07:24,449 --> 00:07:26,183 And you know what? While you're at it, 166 00:07:26,184 --> 00:07:28,285 put a line of credit on that baby and buy yourself a boat". 167 00:07:28,286 --> 00:07:30,954 You heard anything from Buffett? 168 00:07:30,955 --> 00:07:33,623 He's asking for preferred shares at 40 169 00:07:33,624 --> 00:07:35,458 with a dividend of 9%. 170 00:07:35,459 --> 00:07:37,959 We were just at 66. What the fuck? 171 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:39,994 Maybe it's just an opening gambit, Dick. 172 00:07:39,995 --> 00:07:41,662 Sounds more like a goddamn insult. 173 00:07:41,663 --> 00:07:43,197 - Let me get that, Dick. - Thank you. 174 00:07:43,198 --> 00:07:44,898 We're at 36 right now. 175 00:07:44,899 --> 00:07:48,334 We haven't been anywhere near 66 in months. 176 00:07:48,335 --> 00:07:50,336 The markets like Buffett. 177 00:07:50,337 --> 00:07:52,104 His name will push the price up overnight. 178 00:07:52,105 --> 00:07:54,106 You know, I don't care who he is, 179 00:07:54,107 --> 00:07:56,909 I am not spending $360 million a year 180 00:07:56,910 --> 00:07:58,711 for the pleasure of doing business with him. 181 00:07:58,712 --> 00:07:59,879 Real estate will come back. 182 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:01,514 The Koreans have been sniffing around. 183 00:08:01,515 --> 00:08:03,382 There you go. And they won't steal us blind. 184 00:08:03,383 --> 00:08:06,251 I've seen this before... C.E.O.s panic and they sell out cheap. 185 00:08:06,252 --> 00:08:09,019 Right now the street's running around with its hair on fire, 186 00:08:09,020 --> 00:08:11,121 but the storm always passes. 187 00:08:11,122 --> 00:08:13,356 We stand strong, and on the other side 188 00:08:13,357 --> 00:08:15,741 we'll eat Goldman's lunch. 189 00:08:18,027 --> 00:08:19,761 So what do we do about Buffett? 190 00:08:19,762 --> 00:08:22,513 Screw Warren Buffett. 191 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,668 He passed? 192 00:08:26,669 --> 00:08:28,603 Lehman dropped to 28 and 1/2 this morning. 193 00:08:28,604 --> 00:08:30,038 What in the world is he thinking? 194 00:08:30,039 --> 00:08:31,873 He's not thinking. He's delusional. 195 00:08:31,874 --> 00:08:33,741 He thought the ask was too high. 196 00:08:33,742 --> 00:08:36,576 He's got to raise cash. 197 00:08:36,577 --> 00:08:38,445 I told him that. 198 00:08:38,446 --> 00:08:41,147 I spoke to Greenspan. 199 00:08:41,148 --> 00:08:42,648 Really? 200 00:08:42,649 --> 00:08:45,184 He says there's too much housing supply. 201 00:08:45,185 --> 00:08:48,320 That's the problem. 202 00:08:48,321 --> 00:08:51,956 So we should buy up all the vacant houses... 203 00:08:51,957 --> 00:08:54,809 and burn them. 204 00:08:59,997 --> 00:09:03,766 Dick needs a buyer... someone with a grip on reality. 205 00:09:03,767 --> 00:09:06,035 Barclays expressed some interest a couple of months ago, 206 00:09:06,036 --> 00:09:07,936 But I don't think the price is low enough for them. 207 00:09:07,937 --> 00:09:09,872 Bank of America? 208 00:09:09,873 --> 00:09:13,042 Possible. Dick's put out feelers there before. 209 00:09:13,043 --> 00:09:15,611 We have to keep it quiet though. 210 00:09:15,612 --> 00:09:17,846 If anyone hears that they're trying to sell... 211 00:09:17,847 --> 00:09:20,982 Lehman will be dead within the hour. 212 00:09:20,983 --> 00:09:23,686 The real estate investments are killing the firm. 213 00:09:23,687 --> 00:09:26,289 We have to admit publically we've made some mistakes. 214 00:09:26,290 --> 00:09:28,524 We need to make a senior management change, 215 00:09:28,525 --> 00:09:30,626 Signal to the market that we get it. 216 00:09:30,627 --> 00:09:33,028 Meaning what? 217 00:09:33,029 --> 00:09:35,263 Meaning Joe Gregory. 218 00:09:35,264 --> 00:09:37,881 Get the fuck out of here. 219 00:09:39,167 --> 00:09:41,701 You are not gonna tell me how to run my company. 220 00:09:41,702 --> 00:09:44,504 Joe hasn't had your back on risk, and everyone knows it. 221 00:09:44,505 --> 00:09:46,172 Erin Callan's gotta go too. 222 00:09:46,173 --> 00:09:48,240 As far as the street's concerned, she's a joke. 223 00:09:48,241 --> 00:09:50,276 Joe Gregory has been with me 224 00:09:50,277 --> 00:09:53,345 for 30 years. 225 00:09:53,346 --> 00:09:55,347 And you want me to kick him to the curb 226 00:09:55,348 --> 00:09:56,915 because we have a bad quarter? 227 00:09:56,916 --> 00:09:58,550 It's not just a bad quarter. 228 00:09:58,551 --> 00:10:00,518 The stock hit 23. 229 00:10:00,519 --> 00:10:04,120 23. Most of our guys are paid in stock they can't sell for years. 230 00:10:04,121 --> 00:10:07,090 They've lost most of their net worth over the last six months. 231 00:10:07,091 --> 00:10:09,091 You don't stabilize the price, 232 00:10:09,092 --> 00:10:11,059 Your traders are gonna jump ship. 233 00:10:11,060 --> 00:10:12,894 Selfish fucks. 234 00:10:12,895 --> 00:10:15,129 It's not just bankers and traders, Dick. 235 00:10:15,130 --> 00:10:16,797 Clients are pulling their money. 236 00:10:16,798 --> 00:10:19,117 There's gonna be a run on this bank. 237 00:10:23,172 --> 00:10:25,272 Sources tell CNBC that both 238 00:10:25,273 --> 00:10:28,810 Erin Callan and Joseph Gregory are out at Lehman Brothers. 239 00:10:28,811 --> 00:10:31,312 In a statement, the company's chairman Dick Fuld said 240 00:10:31,313 --> 00:10:34,114 Replacing Gregory with 48-year-old Bart McDade 241 00:10:34,115 --> 00:10:37,534 has been one of the most difficult decisions he's had to make. 242 00:10:39,152 --> 00:10:42,420 Dick, the Koreans just arrived at Sullivan. 243 00:10:42,421 --> 00:10:44,522 Let's make this happen. 244 00:10:44,523 --> 00:10:47,843 My take is you'd be better off staying here for now. 245 00:10:49,229 --> 00:10:51,196 We need you to be our missing man. 246 00:10:51,197 --> 00:10:54,132 We'll go in and push the deal as far as we can, 247 00:10:54,133 --> 00:10:57,902 And then we'll bring you in at the end to top it off. 248 00:10:57,903 --> 00:10:59,136 All right, fine. 249 00:10:59,137 --> 00:11:02,021 Okay. 250 00:11:07,511 --> 00:11:10,395 We are committed to our presence in New York. 251 00:11:12,481 --> 00:11:15,867 But we need to know that the underlying numbers make sense. 252 00:11:18,554 --> 00:11:20,488 We realize how things look. 253 00:11:20,489 --> 00:11:23,923 But our stock is getting hammered by the shorts. 254 00:11:23,924 --> 00:11:26,075 The value is still there. 255 00:11:27,494 --> 00:11:29,729 We just started. Min is excited, 256 00:11:29,730 --> 00:11:31,430 but we haven't heard the terms. 257 00:11:31,431 --> 00:11:34,033 Where are you? 258 00:11:34,034 --> 00:11:35,701 I just stepped out to take the call. 259 00:11:35,702 --> 00:11:38,237 Get back in there. Don't be rude. 260 00:11:38,238 --> 00:11:40,156 Okay. 261 00:11:41,475 --> 00:11:44,378 We simply take the assets you don't find appealing, 262 00:11:44,379 --> 00:11:47,531 spin them off into a separate company. 263 00:11:49,251 --> 00:11:51,986 - You don't buy that bank. - I'm very sorry. 264 00:11:51,987 --> 00:11:55,539 You buy the good bank. 265 00:11:56,524 --> 00:11:58,423 They don't like the real estate. 266 00:11:58,424 --> 00:11:59,857 What do you mean, they don't like it? 267 00:11:59,858 --> 00:12:01,859 Dick, we're making real progress here, okay? 268 00:12:01,860 --> 00:12:03,877 Let me stay on it for now. 269 00:12:19,511 --> 00:12:21,912 Min, how are you? 270 00:12:21,913 --> 00:12:24,348 Great to see you. 271 00:12:24,349 --> 00:12:26,917 I don't want to interrupt. 272 00:12:26,918 --> 00:12:28,852 Dick, great timing. 273 00:12:28,853 --> 00:12:31,922 We seem to be in sync on the broad strokes of the deal. 274 00:12:31,923 --> 00:12:34,424 Shall we get back to the letter of intent? 275 00:12:34,425 --> 00:12:36,693 Min, I have to tell you, 276 00:12:36,694 --> 00:12:39,395 I think you're making a big mistake here. 277 00:12:39,396 --> 00:12:42,065 There's great value in the real estate assets. 278 00:12:42,066 --> 00:12:45,233 How about we walk through the portfolio 279 00:12:45,234 --> 00:12:47,719 and I'll show you? 280 00:12:49,271 --> 00:12:51,606 We have looked at them. 281 00:12:51,607 --> 00:12:53,541 Well, then you... 282 00:12:53,542 --> 00:12:55,710 you must have looked at them in the wrong way. 283 00:12:55,711 --> 00:12:59,412 I just don't want to see you leave money on the table. 284 00:12:59,413 --> 00:13:01,798 Perhaps we should take a break. 285 00:13:08,023 --> 00:13:10,158 Min, I'm so sorry. 286 00:13:10,159 --> 00:13:12,160 We have negotiated in good faith. 287 00:13:12,161 --> 00:13:14,394 Now all of a sudden we are going backward? 288 00:13:14,395 --> 00:13:15,995 We can work with you on the price. 289 00:13:15,996 --> 00:13:17,929 It is not about the price. 290 00:13:17,930 --> 00:13:21,181 It is about the way you have conducted this. 291 00:13:26,635 --> 00:13:30,271 I'd like to thank you, all of you, 292 00:13:30,272 --> 00:13:33,290 but I don't think we have a structure that works. 293 00:13:39,413 --> 00:13:41,483 What, that's it? 294 00:13:41,484 --> 00:13:43,699 You're just gonna pack up and go back to Korea? 295 00:13:57,028 --> 00:13:59,163 - Hello. - Neel, it's Dick Fuld. 296 00:13:59,164 --> 00:14:02,199 Listen, you know, 297 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,101 if Hank wants me to find a buyer, 298 00:14:04,102 --> 00:14:05,836 you guys need to step up and help. 299 00:14:05,837 --> 00:14:08,173 The Koreans just walked out, okay? 300 00:14:08,174 --> 00:14:10,175 Look, I'm just speaking for myself here, 301 00:14:10,176 --> 00:14:12,778 but I think you need to do what's right for the firm. 302 00:14:12,779 --> 00:14:14,413 Do what's right? 303 00:14:14,414 --> 00:14:16,148 What is that supposed to mean? 304 00:14:16,149 --> 00:14:18,116 If your stock price keeps sliding, 305 00:14:18,117 --> 00:14:21,153 you may get an offer at a price that doesn't look all that compelling, 306 00:14:21,154 --> 00:14:23,989 but you may have to take it just to keep the company intact. 307 00:14:23,990 --> 00:14:25,824 What kind of price are you talking about? 308 00:14:25,825 --> 00:14:27,458 Could be... 309 00:14:27,459 --> 00:14:30,077 I mean, it might be low single digits. 310 00:14:31,797 --> 00:14:34,265 Last February 311 00:14:34,266 --> 00:14:37,669 we were at 66 a share. 312 00:14:37,670 --> 00:14:42,175 Lehman Brothers is not bear stearns. 313 00:14:42,176 --> 00:14:44,010 We've got a great business. 314 00:14:44,011 --> 00:14:45,911 Real estate's gonna come back. 315 00:14:45,912 --> 00:14:49,147 I am not fucking giving this company away! 316 00:14:49,148 --> 00:14:50,688 While the real estate market 317 00:14:50,689 --> 00:14:52,218 has put Lehman Brothers shares under pressure, 318 00:14:52,219 --> 00:14:54,553 mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac stocks 319 00:14:54,554 --> 00:14:57,122 are suddenly plummeting this morning after reports 320 00:14:57,123 --> 00:14:59,859 the companies may need to raise $75 billion 321 00:14:59,860 --> 00:15:03,062 just to remain solvent. Because they guarantee 322 00:15:03,063 --> 00:15:05,500 such an enormous percentage of the nation's mortgages, 323 00:15:05,501 --> 00:15:07,702 there is renewed speculation that the government 324 00:15:07,703 --> 00:15:09,370 may have to step in and take them over... 325 00:15:09,371 --> 00:15:13,740 a possibility Barack Obama has now raised on the campaign trail. 326 00:15:13,741 --> 00:15:16,076 If Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac collapsed, 327 00:15:16,077 --> 00:15:19,813 then probably the financial system 328 00:15:19,814 --> 00:15:22,248 would receive such a body blow 329 00:15:22,249 --> 00:15:24,851 that it could be disastrous. 330 00:15:24,852 --> 00:15:27,286 Freddie just dropped another 8%. 331 00:15:27,287 --> 00:15:29,755 Fannie's down 5%. 332 00:15:29,756 --> 00:15:32,625 There's... there's no bottom here. 333 00:15:32,626 --> 00:15:35,861 We need to do something now. 334 00:15:35,862 --> 00:15:37,829 We're working on a proposal for Congress, 335 00:15:37,830 --> 00:15:40,365 see if we can get the authority to put some money in. 336 00:15:40,366 --> 00:15:42,400 I'd rather not go that way, 337 00:15:42,401 --> 00:15:44,701 but if we get there... 338 00:15:44,702 --> 00:15:47,720 Uh, I think... I think we're already there. 339 00:15:49,372 --> 00:15:51,139 How much are you gonna ask for? 340 00:15:51,140 --> 00:15:52,774 A blank check. 341 00:15:52,775 --> 00:15:56,177 It has to be enough of a statement to reassure the market. 342 00:15:56,178 --> 00:16:00,081 They need to think I've got a bazooka in my pocket. 343 00:16:00,082 --> 00:16:02,084 I'm not saying that we use it, 344 00:16:02,085 --> 00:16:04,086 but if we have the authority, 345 00:16:04,087 --> 00:16:06,087 everyone who's dumping their shares 346 00:16:06,088 --> 00:16:08,156 will calm down, back off. 347 00:16:08,157 --> 00:16:10,157 Okay, well, if you're going to Congress, 348 00:16:10,158 --> 00:16:11,925 why don't we give to the banks too? 349 00:16:11,926 --> 00:16:14,193 'Cause Lehman is looking like shit and Merrill's not far behind. 350 00:16:14,194 --> 00:16:17,029 We'll be lucky to get them to move on Fannie and Freddie. 351 00:16:17,030 --> 00:16:19,548 We do what we can do. 352 00:16:30,341 --> 00:16:32,841 Secretary, Mrs. Paulson, over here. 353 00:16:32,842 --> 00:16:35,910 Over here, please. 354 00:16:35,911 --> 00:16:38,480 Mr. and Mrs. Paulson. 355 00:16:38,481 --> 00:16:42,518 - Secretary Paulson. - Mrs. Paulson. Thank you. 356 00:16:42,519 --> 00:16:44,220 Mrs. Paulson. 357 00:16:44,221 --> 00:16:46,088 Mr. Paulson. 358 00:16:46,089 --> 00:16:48,740 Mr. and Mrs. Paulson, this way, please. 359 00:16:52,159 --> 00:16:54,226 Mr. Secretary, please. 360 00:16:54,227 --> 00:16:56,212 I got her. 361 00:16:57,631 --> 00:17:00,033 Right over here, Secretary Paulson, please. 362 00:17:00,034 --> 00:17:01,935 Big smile. Thank you. 363 00:17:01,936 --> 00:17:04,503 That's just what I need... press photos 364 00:17:04,504 --> 00:17:07,137 of the Treasury Secretary waving the Chinese flag. 365 00:17:07,138 --> 00:17:09,672 Paulson the Communist. 366 00:17:09,673 --> 00:17:12,641 The look on your face was priceless. 367 00:17:12,642 --> 00:17:17,297 Hank, I must ask you about Fannie and Freddie. 368 00:17:19,550 --> 00:17:21,852 We have hundreds of billions invested. 369 00:17:21,853 --> 00:17:24,922 You've assured us the investment is safe. 370 00:17:24,923 --> 00:17:27,791 And it is, absolutely. 371 00:17:27,792 --> 00:17:31,795 We're watching a great deal of our money disappear. 372 00:17:31,796 --> 00:17:34,231 Share prices have dropped 60% 373 00:17:34,232 --> 00:17:36,333 in the last two months. 374 00:17:36,334 --> 00:17:39,069 Carrying your bazooka around has not helped matters. 375 00:17:39,070 --> 00:17:41,571 Congress gave you the power. 376 00:17:41,572 --> 00:17:43,372 Perhaps it is time to use it. 377 00:17:43,373 --> 00:17:45,307 The market will stabilize. 378 00:17:45,308 --> 00:17:47,209 We just have to give it some time. 379 00:17:47,210 --> 00:17:51,079 There was an approach last month from Russia. 380 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,348 They have considerable holdings 381 00:17:53,349 --> 00:17:55,049 in Fannie and Freddie as well. 382 00:17:55,050 --> 00:17:57,886 They suggested we coordinate 383 00:17:57,887 --> 00:17:59,954 and without warning dump hundreds of billions 384 00:17:59,955 --> 00:18:02,439 of Fannie and Freddie's bonds onto the market. 385 00:18:04,659 --> 00:18:06,360 That would be... 386 00:18:06,361 --> 00:18:08,395 Yes. 387 00:18:08,396 --> 00:18:11,464 The amount of debt your country carries 388 00:18:11,465 --> 00:18:14,450 is a terrible vulnerability. 389 00:18:18,270 --> 00:18:19,504 But you... 390 00:18:19,505 --> 00:18:22,923 we declined respectfully. 391 00:18:25,177 --> 00:18:27,278 Even in the U.S. it seems 392 00:18:27,279 --> 00:18:30,948 the relationship between the government and private industry 393 00:18:30,949 --> 00:18:33,299 isn't so simple. 394 00:18:36,253 --> 00:18:37,953 Was it a threat? 395 00:18:37,954 --> 00:18:41,457 No no, it was a friendly reminder 396 00:18:41,458 --> 00:18:43,459 that with a single phone call to Moscow 397 00:18:43,460 --> 00:18:46,011 they can take down the entire U.S. economy. 398 00:18:53,537 --> 00:18:56,205 Well, the book says 399 00:18:56,206 --> 00:18:58,274 Fannie and Freddie are a nightmare. 400 00:18:58,275 --> 00:19:00,609 They are in the hole easily tens of billions of dollars. 401 00:19:00,610 --> 00:19:03,412 In another few weeks they're gonna start defaulting on their debts. 402 00:19:03,413 --> 00:19:04,913 We're gonna have to step in. 403 00:19:04,914 --> 00:19:08,166 I don't see how we can avoid it. 404 00:19:09,686 --> 00:19:11,820 Turns out a bazooka's not that useful 405 00:19:11,821 --> 00:19:13,772 unless you fire it. 406 00:19:15,291 --> 00:19:17,425 Lehman's down another 10%. 407 00:19:17,426 --> 00:19:19,860 You are not gonna let me get down a single bite, are you? 408 00:19:19,861 --> 00:19:21,429 That's why I have oatmeal. 409 00:19:21,430 --> 00:19:24,132 Dick is trotting around the world with his head in his hands 410 00:19:24,133 --> 00:19:25,934 and no one will give him any money. 411 00:19:25,935 --> 00:19:28,236 Korea walked out on him. Mexico told him to shove it. 412 00:19:28,237 --> 00:19:30,438 No one's interested. All the dumb money's already in. 413 00:19:30,439 --> 00:19:32,307 What about B of A? Are they still in the mix? 414 00:19:32,308 --> 00:19:34,709 And Barclays is sniffing around again, 415 00:19:34,710 --> 00:19:36,577 now that they think it's a fire sale. 416 00:19:36,578 --> 00:19:37,945 That's promising. 417 00:19:37,946 --> 00:19:39,881 I don't know. The British... 418 00:19:39,882 --> 00:19:43,584 they do a lot of talking. They never close. 419 00:19:43,585 --> 00:19:45,720 B of A is still our best bet. 420 00:19:45,721 --> 00:19:47,255 This can't be another Bear. 421 00:19:47,256 --> 00:19:48,404 Absolutely not. 422 00:19:48,405 --> 00:19:50,225 They want Lehman... they buy it outright. 423 00:19:50,226 --> 00:19:51,994 But they may need a little hand-holding. 424 00:19:51,995 --> 00:19:54,530 They just bought Countrywide. They're spread a little thin. 425 00:19:54,531 --> 00:19:56,431 You may have to give them a break 426 00:19:56,432 --> 00:19:58,166 with the capital requirements. 427 00:19:58,167 --> 00:20:01,336 You want me to allow them to raise their leverage 428 00:20:01,337 --> 00:20:03,872 so they can buy a bank that's about to fail 429 00:20:03,873 --> 00:20:06,074 because it was overleveraged? 430 00:20:06,075 --> 00:20:09,077 You got a better idea? 431 00:20:09,078 --> 00:20:12,214 Breaking news just coming in: Sources telling CNBC 432 00:20:12,215 --> 00:20:14,450 that the government has just taken control 433 00:20:14,451 --> 00:20:16,719 of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. 434 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,723 Back in July, you remember, Hank Paulson said 435 00:20:18,724 --> 00:20:20,725 that he wanted the power to step in, 436 00:20:20,726 --> 00:20:22,561 but he probably wouldn't use it. 437 00:20:22,562 --> 00:20:24,363 It certainly sounds like Paulson 438 00:20:24,364 --> 00:20:26,032 just pulled the trigger on that bazooka. 439 00:20:26,033 --> 00:20:28,268 Despite the move nationalize Fannie and Freddie, 440 00:20:28,269 --> 00:20:31,471 the market is still in negative territory across the board. 441 00:20:31,472 --> 00:20:34,775 Investors now focusing their attention on Lehman Brothers 442 00:20:34,776 --> 00:20:37,877 amid fresh reports that the nation's fourth largest investment bank 443 00:20:37,878 --> 00:20:40,179 may be on the brink of bankruptcy. 444 00:20:40,180 --> 00:20:42,481 - Rodge. - Chris. 445 00:20:42,482 --> 00:20:45,198 Bring your money today, huh? 446 00:20:47,783 --> 00:20:51,184 Make sure Fuld's not keeping any bad news out of the mix. 447 00:20:51,185 --> 00:20:54,286 It's open kimono, to quote Dick. 448 00:20:54,287 --> 00:20:57,071 There's a revolting image. 449 00:20:59,524 --> 00:21:02,392 Did you get a look at the numbers? 450 00:21:02,393 --> 00:21:04,027 The real estate's the issue. 451 00:21:04,028 --> 00:21:06,030 They got it marked at $30 billion. 452 00:21:06,031 --> 00:21:08,065 It's worth maybe half of that. 453 00:21:08,066 --> 00:21:10,000 Don't look so nervous. 454 00:21:10,001 --> 00:21:13,170 You're about to get a Wall Street bank for the price of a hot dog. 455 00:21:13,171 --> 00:21:16,674 I know that Paulson told Ken Lewis that he's not gonna pay for this. 456 00:21:16,675 --> 00:21:18,376 And I don't see how we can do it 457 00:21:18,377 --> 00:21:20,478 unless the government takes some of the downside. 458 00:21:20,479 --> 00:21:22,246 Paulson is posturing. 459 00:21:22,247 --> 00:21:23,948 He'll write a check just like he did 460 00:21:23,949 --> 00:21:25,583 for Jamie Dimon on the Bear deal. 461 00:21:25,584 --> 00:21:27,066 He has to. He can't lose 462 00:21:27,067 --> 00:21:29,386 another major bank in an election year. 463 00:21:29,387 --> 00:21:31,388 Besides, the guy made, like, 464 00:21:31,389 --> 00:21:33,590 a half a billion bucks at Goldman Sachs. 465 00:21:33,591 --> 00:21:36,660 He lets Lehman die... Goldman's biggest competitor... 466 00:21:36,661 --> 00:21:38,929 makes him look like he's still working for Goldman, 467 00:21:38,930 --> 00:21:42,082 he's just doing it out of the desk at Treasury. 468 00:21:43,568 --> 00:21:46,938 Where are the donuts? 469 00:21:46,939 --> 00:21:49,407 Exactly. If you're the CEO of one of these financial firms, 470 00:21:49,408 --> 00:21:51,977 you've already seen what the government was willing to do. 471 00:21:51,978 --> 00:21:54,346 Why wouldn't you play chicken with them and say, 472 00:21:54,347 --> 00:21:57,850 "Sure I'll help you out. But you gotta throw in a sweetener, 473 00:21:57,851 --> 00:21:59,769 just like you did for those guys"? 474 00:22:01,288 --> 00:22:04,257 They just assume I'm gonna bail out Dick Fuld... 475 00:22:04,258 --> 00:22:07,426 like I'm the guy behind the elephant with the shovel. 476 00:22:07,427 --> 00:22:09,395 They're all drawing a line from Bear 477 00:22:09,396 --> 00:22:11,296 and Fannie and Freddie right to Lehman. 478 00:22:11,297 --> 00:22:13,131 There's no way the taxpayers are gonna go for another bailout... 479 00:22:13,132 --> 00:22:15,767 A very large purchase assistance package. 480 00:22:15,768 --> 00:22:18,937 We need to come up with a private-sector solution, 481 00:22:18,938 --> 00:22:21,272 get the investment banks to bridge the gap. 482 00:22:21,273 --> 00:22:23,106 Okay, but that's never gonna work, 483 00:22:23,107 --> 00:22:25,008 unless they believe that you've drawn a line. 484 00:22:25,009 --> 00:22:28,527 I know you don't like leaking, but let us reach out to the press. 485 00:22:34,449 --> 00:22:36,033 Okay. 486 00:22:38,252 --> 00:22:40,453 Mr. Flowers, 487 00:22:40,454 --> 00:22:42,857 there's a call for you... Bob Willumstad from A.I.G. 488 00:22:42,858 --> 00:22:45,275 He's very insistent. 489 00:22:50,197 --> 00:22:52,365 Mr. Flowers. 490 00:22:52,366 --> 00:22:54,733 My people tell me you're the man to talk to. 491 00:22:54,734 --> 00:22:56,267 We've got a real problem here. 492 00:22:56,268 --> 00:22:57,835 Yeah? What kind of problem? 493 00:22:57,836 --> 00:23:01,105 It looks very much like we are about to run out of cash. 494 00:23:01,106 --> 00:23:02,540 A.I.G.? 495 00:23:02,541 --> 00:23:04,642 We've sent over a document. It's a spreadsheet. 496 00:23:04,643 --> 00:23:07,544 It's confidential, of course, but it might give you some insight. 497 00:23:07,545 --> 00:23:10,214 I'm in the middle of Lehman. I'm working with B of A. 498 00:23:10,215 --> 00:23:13,117 Is there any way you could come over tomorrow? 499 00:23:13,118 --> 00:23:15,219 I'll take a look at the numbers 500 00:23:15,220 --> 00:23:17,504 and we'll talk. 501 00:23:22,494 --> 00:23:24,812 Mr. Flowers. 502 00:23:28,067 --> 00:23:29,801 Somebody put the TV on. 503 00:23:29,802 --> 00:23:32,387 CNBC's talking about Lehman. 504 00:23:36,909 --> 00:23:40,213 ...Person familiar with Paulson's... 505 00:23:40,214 --> 00:23:42,382 Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson's thinking, 506 00:23:42,383 --> 00:23:44,917 and he is saying there will be no government money 507 00:23:44,918 --> 00:23:47,219 in the resolution of this situation. 508 00:23:47,220 --> 00:23:49,889 They're saying two things make the Lehman deal different: 509 00:23:49,890 --> 00:23:52,091 The market's been aware and had time to prepare 510 00:23:52,092 --> 00:23:54,460 for over six months; And the second is... 511 00:23:54,461 --> 00:23:57,029 Is that just TV bullshit, 512 00:23:57,030 --> 00:24:00,314 or is that Paulson sending us a message? 513 00:24:01,100 --> 00:24:02,717 Chris? 514 00:24:09,743 --> 00:24:11,627 Yeah? Sorry. 515 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:15,998 What exactly does 516 00:24:15,999 --> 00:24:18,349 "a person familiar with the Treasury Secretary" mean? 517 00:24:18,350 --> 00:24:20,484 That could mean a lot of things. 518 00:24:20,485 --> 00:24:22,252 Did one of your staffers do this? 519 00:24:22,253 --> 00:24:24,387 Please tell me someone got fired 10 minutes ago. 520 00:24:24,388 --> 00:24:26,605 The leak came from me. 521 00:24:28,358 --> 00:24:30,192 Hank, a public statement like that 522 00:24:30,193 --> 00:24:32,194 can have a lot of unintended consequences. 523 00:24:32,195 --> 00:24:34,162 We had to send a message to the other banks. 524 00:24:34,163 --> 00:24:35,376 They need to step up. 525 00:24:35,377 --> 00:24:37,440 I don't have another rabbit I can pull out of my hat. 526 00:24:38,401 --> 00:24:41,136 Rodgin Cohen just called me. 527 00:24:41,137 --> 00:24:44,542 The B of A team is sitting there playing brick breaker on their phones. 528 00:24:44,543 --> 00:24:46,012 They don't want this deal. 529 00:24:46,013 --> 00:24:48,516 The deal is hanging by a thread 530 00:24:48,517 --> 00:24:50,386 because the closer they get to Lehman 531 00:24:50,387 --> 00:24:52,689 the more it looks like a toxic waste dump. 532 00:24:52,690 --> 00:24:56,126 Which is why at the end of the day we may have to help them, 533 00:24:56,127 --> 00:24:59,863 which would be a lot easier if we didn't publicly state that... 534 00:24:59,864 --> 00:25:01,965 We can't, Tim. Legally we can't. 535 00:25:01,966 --> 00:25:04,268 Legally we haven't figured out 536 00:25:04,269 --> 00:25:08,138 how yet. 537 00:25:08,139 --> 00:25:12,109 I am concerned 538 00:25:12,110 --> 00:25:14,777 we are limiting our options 539 00:25:14,778 --> 00:25:18,046 at a time when we have very few, 540 00:25:18,047 --> 00:25:20,230 if any, available. 541 00:25:22,650 --> 00:25:26,286 I want all the C.E.O.s in a room. 542 00:25:26,287 --> 00:25:28,255 We've got the weekend. 543 00:25:28,256 --> 00:25:30,658 We lock them in a room at the Fed 544 00:25:30,659 --> 00:25:34,363 and we don't let them out until they have a solution on Lehman. 545 00:25:34,364 --> 00:25:36,398 Your oatmeal's getting cold. 546 00:25:36,399 --> 00:25:39,583 They'll figure it out. They'll all throw in some money. 547 00:25:41,102 --> 00:25:43,103 Well, Tim is advocating strongly 548 00:25:43,104 --> 00:25:45,139 that we reconsider some kind of Fed support. 549 00:25:45,140 --> 00:25:47,374 Tim wants us to pick up the tab on everyone. 550 00:25:47,375 --> 00:25:49,909 I can't be Mr. bailout. 551 00:25:49,910 --> 00:25:53,446 The Lehman hole is twice what Bear's was. 552 00:25:53,447 --> 00:25:55,447 Investors are pulling their accounts. 553 00:25:55,448 --> 00:25:58,016 You want to lend into a run? 554 00:25:58,017 --> 00:26:00,251 What about Barclays? Are they still interested? 555 00:26:00,252 --> 00:26:03,088 They can't afford the risk any more than B of A can. 556 00:26:03,089 --> 00:26:06,626 I don't doubt your ability to talk anybody into submission, 557 00:26:06,627 --> 00:26:08,795 but it is still a long shot. 558 00:26:08,796 --> 00:26:12,666 And there's a very real possibility that Lehman goes under. 559 00:26:12,667 --> 00:26:16,136 There's a deal to be made here. 560 00:26:16,137 --> 00:26:18,938 I'm gonna make the deal. 561 00:26:18,939 --> 00:26:21,041 With just a little more than an hour 562 00:26:21,042 --> 00:26:22,909 left until the market closes, 563 00:26:22,910 --> 00:26:25,312 shares of Lehman Brothers have taken another tumble. 564 00:26:25,313 --> 00:26:27,381 The stock is now trading at a new low... 565 00:26:27,382 --> 00:26:29,318 under $4 a share. 566 00:26:29,319 --> 00:26:31,320 And judging from the selling, 567 00:26:31,321 --> 00:26:34,239 there doesn't appear to be a bottom in sight. 568 00:26:36,860 --> 00:26:38,862 So Blankfein has a speech 569 00:26:38,863 --> 00:26:40,931 he's trying to get out of, but the rest have confirmed. 570 00:26:40,932 --> 00:26:43,400 - Tell him it's not optional. - Yeah. 571 00:26:43,401 --> 00:26:45,901 Good afternoon, Chairman. Thank you so much for joining us. 572 00:26:45,902 --> 00:26:47,336 Whose plane is this? 573 00:26:47,337 --> 00:26:49,304 Uh, that's a rental. 574 00:26:49,305 --> 00:26:51,773 Hank put it on his card. 575 00:26:51,774 --> 00:26:54,676 Sir, you know Neel and Michele Davis, public affairs. 576 00:26:54,677 --> 00:26:55,944 Hi. Pleasure. 577 00:26:55,945 --> 00:26:57,645 This is Dan Jester... our new numbers guy. 578 00:26:57,646 --> 00:26:58,623 Hi. 579 00:26:58,624 --> 00:27:00,149 I've talked him into coming out of retirement. 580 00:27:00,150 --> 00:27:02,652 - Excuse me? Retirement? - He was with us at Goldman. 581 00:27:02,653 --> 00:27:05,019 Got anybody at Treasury who wasn't at Goldman? 582 00:27:05,020 --> 00:27:06,853 Chairman, just to be clear, 583 00:27:06,854 --> 00:27:08,922 there's no question of conflict of interest. 584 00:27:08,923 --> 00:27:11,557 Hank sold all of his Goldman stock before he took office. 585 00:27:11,558 --> 00:27:13,292 I wasn't implying anything. 586 00:27:13,293 --> 00:27:15,060 Sorry. We're a little touchy 587 00:27:15,061 --> 00:27:17,762 about the whole government-Sachs thing. 588 00:27:17,763 --> 00:27:19,680 Shall we? 589 00:27:22,667 --> 00:27:25,235 B of A keeps finding more toxic assets. 590 00:27:25,236 --> 00:27:27,271 They want you to reconsider a Jamie deal. 591 00:27:27,272 --> 00:27:29,172 They'll split the first billion in losses, 592 00:27:29,173 --> 00:27:31,107 but they want you on the hook for the next 40. 593 00:27:31,108 --> 00:27:33,342 You did it for Bear. 594 00:27:33,343 --> 00:27:35,643 Greg, let me get back to you. 595 00:27:35,644 --> 00:27:38,112 What do I have to... tattoo it on my forehead? 596 00:27:38,113 --> 00:27:39,780 We are not bailing out Lehman. 597 00:27:39,781 --> 00:27:41,448 Wall Street has a gambling problem. 598 00:27:41,449 --> 00:27:43,483 If government keeps covering their losses, 599 00:27:43,484 --> 00:27:45,702 they never learn anything. 600 00:27:46,453 --> 00:27:48,154 What? 601 00:27:48,155 --> 00:27:50,923 I didn't know if you wanted to keep lecturing me on moral hazard 602 00:27:50,924 --> 00:27:53,658 or if I should just call B of A back. 603 00:27:53,659 --> 00:27:55,762 We need to keep them at the table 604 00:27:55,763 --> 00:27:57,931 until they come up with a private-sector solution. 605 00:27:57,932 --> 00:28:00,433 Tell them to stay with us. 606 00:28:00,434 --> 00:28:02,636 - Alistair, hello. - Hello, Henry. 607 00:28:02,637 --> 00:28:04,888 Hold on one second. 608 00:28:05,940 --> 00:28:07,941 Chancellor of the Exchequer. 609 00:28:07,942 --> 00:28:11,345 I understand Barclays is one of your potential buyers for Lehman. 610 00:28:11,346 --> 00:28:14,248 My banks are already under a great deal of stress. 611 00:28:14,249 --> 00:28:16,550 They don't want to become overextended. 612 00:28:16,551 --> 00:28:18,819 Lehman is problematic, but there's value there. 613 00:28:18,820 --> 00:28:21,121 We will find a way to make it attractive. 614 00:28:21,122 --> 00:28:23,323 Just stay with us. 615 00:28:23,324 --> 00:28:24,958 Talk soon. 616 00:28:24,959 --> 00:28:26,393 Bye. 617 00:28:26,394 --> 00:28:28,395 We'll keep Barclays in the mix, 618 00:28:28,396 --> 00:28:31,231 but B of A is still our best bet. 619 00:28:31,232 --> 00:28:34,668 We've got the C.E.O.s of every major bank coming here tonight. 620 00:28:34,669 --> 00:28:38,038 We have to make it clear that this their problem, 621 00:28:38,039 --> 00:28:41,440 that we are their advisors and their allies, 622 00:28:41,441 --> 00:28:45,627 but we are not their safety net. 623 00:28:46,779 --> 00:28:48,596 What should we expect from these guys? 624 00:28:59,126 --> 00:29:01,127 Jamie is smart. 625 00:29:01,128 --> 00:29:03,229 He doesn't have as much cash to work with 626 00:29:03,230 --> 00:29:05,931 since he bought Bear. 627 00:29:05,932 --> 00:29:08,733 Lloyd's a superstar. 628 00:29:08,734 --> 00:29:11,502 Goldman's the smartest shop on the block. 629 00:29:11,503 --> 00:29:13,505 And just because I used to be his boss, 630 00:29:13,506 --> 00:29:17,008 it doesn't mean he's gonna listen to me. 631 00:29:17,009 --> 00:29:19,911 John Mack used to run around the floor screaming, 632 00:29:19,912 --> 00:29:23,682 "there's blood in the water! Let's go kill someone!" 633 00:29:23,683 --> 00:29:26,368 He's a fighter. 634 00:29:28,019 --> 00:29:29,886 Thain was my number two at Goldman. 635 00:29:29,887 --> 00:29:31,887 He's selfish. He's a pragmatist. 636 00:29:31,888 --> 00:29:35,840 He knows... if Lehman goes, Merrill's next. 637 00:29:36,993 --> 00:29:40,429 Vikram Pandit is the new guy at Citigroup. 638 00:29:40,430 --> 00:29:43,198 No one knows if he's running Citi 639 00:29:43,199 --> 00:29:45,550 or if Citi's running him. 640 00:30:08,286 --> 00:30:12,455 Thanks for coming down here on such short notice. 641 00:30:12,456 --> 00:30:14,524 Monday morning Lehman will no longer be able 642 00:30:14,525 --> 00:30:16,810 to honor its obligations. 643 00:30:18,864 --> 00:30:22,133 We have two potential buyers... B of A and Barclays. 644 00:30:22,134 --> 00:30:24,435 Neither will take the company unless someone else 645 00:30:24,436 --> 00:30:26,737 finances part of the deal. 646 00:30:26,738 --> 00:30:30,357 The government is not in a position to step in. 647 00:30:31,543 --> 00:30:34,544 I did the last one. You're gonna do this one. 648 00:30:34,545 --> 00:30:35,945 Where is Dick Fuld? 649 00:30:35,946 --> 00:30:38,213 Dick's in no condition to make any decisions. 650 00:30:38,214 --> 00:30:41,383 We're breaking you into three groups. 651 00:30:41,384 --> 00:30:44,220 The first one will try to value 652 00:30:44,221 --> 00:30:46,156 Lehman's toxic assets. 653 00:30:46,157 --> 00:30:48,226 The second one will work on some sort of structure 654 00:30:48,227 --> 00:30:50,429 for you all to invest in Lehman. 655 00:30:50,430 --> 00:30:54,134 And the third one works on the lights-out plan. 656 00:30:54,135 --> 00:30:56,570 If Lehman files for bankruptcy, we need to figure out 657 00:30:56,571 --> 00:30:58,872 how to contain the damage to the rest of you. 658 00:30:58,873 --> 00:31:00,074 Christ. 659 00:31:00,075 --> 00:31:02,043 We've all seen this coming for miles. 660 00:31:02,044 --> 00:31:05,248 I don't think the Lehman bankruptcy takes down our firms. 661 00:31:05,249 --> 00:31:07,886 What, are we crossing our fingers? 662 00:31:07,887 --> 00:31:10,555 You're asking us to save a competitor. 663 00:31:10,556 --> 00:31:13,025 Let's not act like you're doing us a favor. 664 00:31:13,026 --> 00:31:17,230 Gentlemen, gentlemen, you are great Americans 665 00:31:17,231 --> 00:31:19,198 undertaking a patriotic duty. 666 00:31:19,199 --> 00:31:21,966 Your travail will earn you 667 00:31:21,967 --> 00:31:25,435 the love and gratitude of your country. 668 00:31:25,436 --> 00:31:27,703 I think it was Thomas Paine who said that these are... 669 00:31:27,704 --> 00:31:29,904 Lehman is a trading partner for every bank in this room. 670 00:31:29,905 --> 00:31:32,706 And their failure will be a massive blow to all of you. 671 00:31:32,707 --> 00:31:34,440 This is your problem. 672 00:31:34,441 --> 00:31:36,908 We can all argue about how we got here... 673 00:31:36,909 --> 00:31:39,243 deregulation, derivatives, 674 00:31:39,244 --> 00:31:41,011 Dick Fuld made bad decisions. 675 00:31:41,012 --> 00:31:44,648 We're all responsible. It's a catastrophic mess. 676 00:31:44,649 --> 00:31:47,049 The government's done whatever it can do. 677 00:31:47,050 --> 00:31:48,417 It's on you now. 678 00:31:48,418 --> 00:31:51,386 You need to fix it and you need to pay for it. 679 00:31:51,387 --> 00:31:54,856 Let me be clear: 680 00:31:54,857 --> 00:31:56,858 We will remember 681 00:31:56,859 --> 00:31:59,677 anyone who's not helpful. 682 00:32:22,484 --> 00:32:24,919 Do you notice a little pattern here? 683 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,722 We don't deal with things until there's some kind of emergency on the table. 684 00:32:27,723 --> 00:32:30,024 Yeah, we don't deal with things until Friday... 685 00:32:30,025 --> 00:32:32,393 Some kind of a weekend thing. When are we gonna figure out 686 00:32:32,394 --> 00:32:34,596 exactly how to handle the failure of an investment bank? 687 00:32:34,597 --> 00:32:36,164 Well, let's do it over a weekend. 688 00:32:36,165 --> 00:32:38,199 Just I talked to a person who is monitoring 689 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,536 The situation out there, and the person said 690 00:32:40,537 --> 00:32:43,873 they all want the same deal Jamie Dimon got, 691 00:32:43,874 --> 00:32:45,908 and they're not going to get it. 692 00:32:45,909 --> 00:32:48,344 Just a heads up... Chris Flowers is in the lobby. 693 00:32:48,345 --> 00:32:51,397 He's consulting for B of A on Lehman. 694 00:32:53,116 --> 00:32:55,951 Hank pushed Flowers out of Goldman. 695 00:32:55,952 --> 00:32:57,720 Yesterday we thought Lehman was holding 696 00:32:57,721 --> 00:32:59,655 $30 billion in crap. Today it's $70... 697 00:32:59,656 --> 00:33:03,156 $70 billion in assets that we're valuing with a dartboard. 698 00:33:03,157 --> 00:33:04,525 No, we're gonna work this out. 699 00:33:04,526 --> 00:33:06,827 Unless you step in, we're ending this. 700 00:33:06,828 --> 00:33:08,261 Don't forget about Dick. 701 00:33:08,262 --> 00:33:10,063 Yeah, Dick Fuld keeps calling, 702 00:33:10,064 --> 00:33:11,981 hammering us to raise the price. 703 00:33:13,601 --> 00:33:15,751 Excuse me. 704 00:33:20,107 --> 00:33:23,008 $70 fucking billion 705 00:33:23,009 --> 00:33:26,678 and no collateral? 706 00:33:26,679 --> 00:33:29,247 If Lehman Brothers fails this weekend, 707 00:33:29,248 --> 00:33:31,549 there's little doubt amongst the people I speak to 708 00:33:31,550 --> 00:33:33,650 that Merrill Lynch will be next. 709 00:33:33,651 --> 00:33:35,987 Confidence is a very fragile thing. 710 00:33:35,988 --> 00:33:39,692 And in our financial markets it is eroding very quickly. 711 00:33:39,693 --> 00:33:41,926 Lehman's not gonna make it. 712 00:33:41,927 --> 00:33:44,928 We're next. We need to do something right now. 713 00:33:44,929 --> 00:33:47,197 B of A's the only one out there. 714 00:33:47,198 --> 00:33:49,633 I can put in a call. It screws Lehman, but... 715 00:33:49,634 --> 00:33:52,535 Lehman screwed themselves. Paulson has drawn a line in the sand. 716 00:33:52,536 --> 00:33:54,470 Lehman is dead. 717 00:33:54,471 --> 00:33:56,855 Make the call. 718 00:33:59,541 --> 00:34:02,745 We'd like you guys to look at taking a stake in Merrill, 719 00:34:02,746 --> 00:34:05,781 something in the neighborhood of 10%. 720 00:34:05,782 --> 00:34:09,218 Well, I don't know if I can generate any interest in 10%, 721 00:34:09,219 --> 00:34:12,321 but if the whole company's in play, 722 00:34:12,322 --> 00:34:15,590 I bet that's something that we'd consider. 723 00:34:15,591 --> 00:34:17,692 Us and Lehman? 724 00:34:17,693 --> 00:34:20,811 Deal of this size... there's only room for one. 725 00:34:27,301 --> 00:34:29,502 It is a lot of risk, no question, 726 00:34:29,503 --> 00:34:31,504 but if you stay in the game, 727 00:34:31,505 --> 00:34:33,872 we all will find a private solution. 728 00:34:33,873 --> 00:34:35,891 Absolutely. 729 00:34:36,910 --> 00:34:38,911 Don't get scared by the numbers. 730 00:34:38,912 --> 00:34:41,447 We'll figure it out. Lehman is worth owning. 731 00:34:41,448 --> 00:34:44,298 Guys, you got a second? 732 00:34:47,552 --> 00:34:49,553 I was at A.I.G. yesterday. 733 00:34:49,554 --> 00:34:51,554 Next Wednesday they got 734 00:34:51,555 --> 00:34:54,455 a $5 billion hole, minimum. 735 00:34:54,456 --> 00:34:56,956 I called Warren Buffett. 736 00:34:56,957 --> 00:34:59,924 He wouldn't touch it with a stick. 737 00:34:59,925 --> 00:35:01,759 We're looking into it. 738 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,012 It's a very big company. 739 00:35:06,231 --> 00:35:08,198 Thanks, Chris. 740 00:35:08,199 --> 00:35:10,483 I appreciate all your help. 741 00:35:16,741 --> 00:35:19,693 They're not on top of it. 742 00:35:25,585 --> 00:35:27,837 Look at this. 743 00:35:31,526 --> 00:35:34,096 Is this even possible? 744 00:35:34,097 --> 00:35:35,998 A.I.G.? 745 00:35:35,999 --> 00:35:37,617 Holy shit. 746 00:35:38,903 --> 00:35:41,154 Get into this. 747 00:35:42,974 --> 00:35:45,727 John. 748 00:35:49,382 --> 00:35:52,685 Do you see what's happening here? 749 00:35:52,686 --> 00:35:54,854 Are you watching out for yourself? 750 00:35:54,855 --> 00:35:56,822 I'm not thick. 751 00:35:56,823 --> 00:35:59,708 I'm working on something. 752 00:36:02,797 --> 00:36:06,082 You're talking to B of A. 753 00:36:07,134 --> 00:36:09,235 I'm sorry. 754 00:36:09,236 --> 00:36:11,069 I know it's not good for Lehman, 755 00:36:11,070 --> 00:36:12,637 but I have to take care of Merrill. 756 00:36:12,638 --> 00:36:16,073 Let me worry about Lehman. 757 00:36:16,074 --> 00:36:18,926 Barclays is still in the game. 758 00:36:20,445 --> 00:36:22,596 Just get it done. 759 00:36:33,525 --> 00:36:37,345 B of A is gonna buy Merrill. 760 00:36:39,197 --> 00:36:41,465 We need to make Barclays work. 761 00:36:41,466 --> 00:36:45,003 I thought you said the British never close. 762 00:36:45,004 --> 00:36:46,971 They're here. 763 00:36:46,972 --> 00:36:49,340 They seem to really want it. 764 00:36:49,341 --> 00:36:52,844 If we hold their hands, they'll close. 765 00:36:52,845 --> 00:36:54,979 Rodgin, what the fuck? 766 00:36:54,980 --> 00:36:58,116 I can't get Geithner. I can't get Paulson. 767 00:36:58,117 --> 00:37:01,253 I can't even get my own goddamn employees to pick up the phone. 768 00:37:01,254 --> 00:37:03,322 There's a lot happening down here, Dick. 769 00:37:03,323 --> 00:37:04,790 Oh fuck. 770 00:37:04,791 --> 00:37:07,293 You know what? You tell Geithner, 771 00:37:07,294 --> 00:37:10,630 he doesn't pull my ass out of the fire... Merrill's gonna be next. 772 00:37:10,631 --> 00:37:13,900 He knows that. Dick, he just told me 773 00:37:13,901 --> 00:37:16,619 they're working on a solution for Merrill. 774 00:37:19,306 --> 00:37:21,841 Those cocksuckers are gonna bail out Merrill? 775 00:37:21,842 --> 00:37:23,476 No no, not the Fed. 776 00:37:23,477 --> 00:37:25,478 Well, there's no private buyers. 777 00:37:25,479 --> 00:37:28,516 There's just B of A and... 778 00:37:28,517 --> 00:37:31,151 they're gonna put B of A together with Merrill? 779 00:37:31,152 --> 00:37:33,720 We still have Barclays. Hank feels that... 780 00:37:33,721 --> 00:37:38,056 the federal government is snaking my deal? 781 00:37:38,057 --> 00:37:41,843 I cannot fucking believe this shit! 782 00:37:43,530 --> 00:37:45,832 B of A made a deal with Merrill? 783 00:37:45,833 --> 00:37:47,901 Yeah, Lehman's still our problem. 784 00:37:47,902 --> 00:37:50,270 I don't think I can take another day of this. 785 00:37:50,271 --> 00:37:52,273 You're getting out of a Mercedes 786 00:37:52,274 --> 00:37:54,308 to go to the New York Federal Reserve. 787 00:37:54,309 --> 00:37:56,762 It's not a Higgins boat on Omaha Beach. 788 00:38:04,854 --> 00:38:06,822 Okay okay, 789 00:38:06,823 --> 00:38:08,824 we've been here a long time. 790 00:38:08,825 --> 00:38:11,259 Let's stop fucking around. 791 00:38:11,260 --> 00:38:14,496 Main Street wants Wall Street to pay. 792 00:38:14,497 --> 00:38:17,632 They think we're overpaid assholes. 793 00:38:17,633 --> 00:38:21,169 There's no politician who's gonna sign off on a bailout. 794 00:38:21,170 --> 00:38:23,172 Why would you bail out people 795 00:38:23,173 --> 00:38:25,174 whose sole job is to make money? 796 00:38:25,175 --> 00:38:29,644 So let's make this real simple. 797 00:38:29,645 --> 00:38:32,413 Hank thinks he can sell 798 00:38:32,414 --> 00:38:34,182 the good parts of Lehman to Barclays, 799 00:38:34,183 --> 00:38:36,183 but someone has to take the real estate crap 800 00:38:36,184 --> 00:38:38,585 that's weighing down the company. 801 00:38:38,586 --> 00:38:40,587 Nobody knows how much this shit is worth, 802 00:38:40,588 --> 00:38:42,655 but we know somebody has to buy it to make a deal. 803 00:38:42,656 --> 00:38:44,690 I don't like it. 804 00:38:44,691 --> 00:38:47,159 Nobody likes it. 805 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,995 Let's just suck it up and do it. 806 00:38:49,996 --> 00:38:52,466 How many of you can kick in a billion dollars 807 00:38:52,467 --> 00:38:55,219 to stop Lehman from going down? 808 00:38:57,973 --> 00:39:00,041 I'm in. 809 00:39:00,042 --> 00:39:02,960 One billion. 810 00:39:13,221 --> 00:39:15,539 Okay. 811 00:39:21,162 --> 00:39:23,614 Goldman's in for a billion. 812 00:39:30,806 --> 00:39:33,308 John? 813 00:39:33,309 --> 00:39:35,593 Yeah. 814 00:39:41,016 --> 00:39:43,267 Yes. 815 00:39:44,620 --> 00:39:46,971 Yeah. 816 00:39:48,223 --> 00:39:50,507 Yes. 817 00:39:54,996 --> 00:39:57,631 We did it. Barclays came through. 818 00:39:57,632 --> 00:39:59,533 Too goddamn right! 819 00:39:59,534 --> 00:40:01,969 Barclays won't touch the real estate assets, 820 00:40:01,970 --> 00:40:04,454 but the other banks agreed to cover those. 821 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,208 Call the board. Get everybody here. 822 00:40:08,209 --> 00:40:10,111 We got a deal to make. 823 00:40:10,112 --> 00:40:11,729 Okay. 824 00:40:21,125 --> 00:40:22,726 Did you get him? 825 00:40:22,727 --> 00:40:25,628 Geithner doesn't return my calls. 826 00:40:25,629 --> 00:40:27,462 We can't get hold of any of those people. 827 00:40:27,463 --> 00:40:30,398 At the end of the day they can't sign the deal without our say-so. 828 00:40:30,399 --> 00:40:33,150 Yes, but do they know that? 829 00:40:36,404 --> 00:40:38,405 Yes. 830 00:40:38,406 --> 00:40:40,039 Yes, by all means, 831 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,408 now that he deigns to call, put him through. 832 00:40:42,409 --> 00:40:45,611 Sir Callum, sorry I haven't gotten back to you. 833 00:40:45,612 --> 00:40:47,447 We're just sorting through 834 00:40:47,448 --> 00:40:50,082 this Barclays deal for Lehman. 835 00:40:50,083 --> 00:40:52,284 As Barclays' regulator, 836 00:40:52,285 --> 00:40:55,287 we have serious concerns about this proposed arrangement. 837 00:40:55,288 --> 00:40:57,122 What... are... are you saying 838 00:40:57,123 --> 00:40:59,223 you won't approve the deal? 839 00:40:59,224 --> 00:41:01,358 Even if we were comfortable with the agreement, 840 00:41:01,359 --> 00:41:02,926 which we are not, 841 00:41:02,927 --> 00:41:04,928 Barclays would need at least 30 days 842 00:41:04,929 --> 00:41:06,896 for shareholder approval. 843 00:41:06,897 --> 00:41:09,299 No no no no no no. 844 00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:11,668 He can't. He can't do this. 845 00:41:11,669 --> 00:41:14,405 - Can they stop the deal? - Of course they can stop the deal. 846 00:41:14,406 --> 00:41:16,407 But even if they don't stop it, the delay will kill it. 847 00:41:16,408 --> 00:41:19,910 Let's call the Chancellor of the Exchequer right now. 848 00:41:19,911 --> 00:41:22,078 None of those assets 849 00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:24,698 would be part of Barclays. 850 00:41:25,917 --> 00:41:30,104 Yes, but if the F.S.A. were to... 851 00:41:31,590 --> 00:41:36,410 of c... of course. 852 00:41:37,429 --> 00:41:39,430 Yeah. 853 00:41:39,431 --> 00:41:41,949 I wish you good night. 854 00:41:43,136 --> 00:41:45,486 Good night to you too. 855 00:41:52,710 --> 00:41:55,795 "We don't want to import your cancer". 856 00:42:07,391 --> 00:42:10,594 Those of you 857 00:42:10,595 --> 00:42:13,799 who didn't want to assist the Barclays deal, 858 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,102 you can breathe a sigh of relief. 859 00:42:17,103 --> 00:42:19,170 The deal's not gonna happen. 860 00:42:19,171 --> 00:42:21,573 - Hank, we have the money. - The deal's dead. 861 00:42:21,574 --> 00:42:24,876 The British regulator won't sign off. 862 00:42:24,877 --> 00:42:26,544 There must be some pressure you can exert. 863 00:42:26,545 --> 00:42:29,181 Trust me, I've done everything I can. 864 00:42:29,182 --> 00:42:32,685 The British... 865 00:42:32,686 --> 00:42:35,704 they grin-fucked us. 866 00:42:38,192 --> 00:42:40,160 Pason's got 100,000 employees. 867 00:42:40,161 --> 00:42:42,162 Geithner has 200 lawyers. 868 00:42:42,163 --> 00:42:44,198 Freaking Chris Cox has 3000 people. 869 00:42:44,199 --> 00:42:47,258 Not a single one of those assholes could pick up a phone, 870 00:42:47,259 --> 00:42:49,837 call the British, find out if they're was a deal to be made 871 00:42:49,838 --> 00:42:52,940 before they spend the weekend was sweating us for cash? 872 00:42:52,941 --> 00:42:54,942 Somebody dropped the ball. 873 00:42:54,943 --> 00:42:56,877 They didn't drop the ball. 874 00:42:56,878 --> 00:42:58,946 They dropped the ball, kicked the coach in the nuts 875 00:42:58,947 --> 00:43:00,915 and took a crap in the quarterback's mouth. 876 00:43:00,916 --> 00:43:03,167 Of course. 877 00:43:04,552 --> 00:43:07,271 The Fed will do something. 878 00:43:08,490 --> 00:43:10,241 They have to. 879 00:43:14,831 --> 00:43:16,832 We've got to announce the Lehman bankruptcy now. 880 00:43:16,833 --> 00:43:18,834 If Asia opens and this isn't locked down, 881 00:43:18,835 --> 00:43:20,702 everyone's gonna assume the worst. 882 00:43:20,703 --> 00:43:22,871 The selloff will kill the Merrill-B of A deal. 883 00:43:22,872 --> 00:43:25,340 - Who's gonna make the announcement? - I think it's gotta be S.E.C. 884 00:43:25,341 --> 00:43:26,741 Yeah. 885 00:43:26,742 --> 00:43:29,260 Okay. 886 00:43:31,980 --> 00:43:35,082 Let's do it here. How soon can we set that up? 887 00:43:35,083 --> 00:43:36,551 Right away. 888 00:43:36,552 --> 00:43:39,221 We could use the main floor, the entrance hall. 889 00:43:39,222 --> 00:43:42,073 With the statue behind me? Excellent. 890 00:43:45,961 --> 00:43:48,846 Did Lehman actually agree to file? 891 00:43:57,139 --> 00:43:59,040 Chris, call Lehman. 892 00:43:59,041 --> 00:44:00,708 Make sure they file right now. 893 00:44:00,709 --> 00:44:02,693 Absolutely. 894 00:44:14,357 --> 00:44:16,658 A.I.G.'s a huge problem. 895 00:44:16,659 --> 00:44:19,094 The books are a mess. But from what I can tell, 896 00:44:19,095 --> 00:44:22,163 half the banks in the world are in bed with these guys. 897 00:44:22,164 --> 00:44:24,532 Everyone who had a piece-of-crap mortgage security 898 00:44:24,533 --> 00:44:26,668 bought insurance on their risk from A.I.G., 899 00:44:26,669 --> 00:44:28,103 and I mean everyone. 900 00:44:28,104 --> 00:44:30,639 How could they let this happen? 901 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,610 They must have figured real estate would never go down, ever. 902 00:44:34,611 --> 00:44:37,630 Hank, Lehman still hasn't filed. 903 00:44:39,516 --> 00:44:42,518 Cox has to make his announcement. Asia's opening. 904 00:44:42,519 --> 00:44:44,853 Has he talked to them? 905 00:44:44,854 --> 00:44:47,289 He hasn't even called yet. 906 00:44:47,290 --> 00:44:49,859 We told Fuld about Barclays. We said Cox was gonna call. 907 00:44:49,860 --> 00:44:51,827 He's got his entire board sitting there... 908 00:44:51,828 --> 00:44:53,696 no call. 909 00:44:53,697 --> 00:44:55,664 Cox is like a deer in the headlights. 910 00:44:55,665 --> 00:44:57,917 Son of a bitch! 911 00:45:03,641 --> 00:45:07,377 You are their regulator. Call the Lehman board now. 912 00:45:07,378 --> 00:45:10,246 Hank, this is a complicated situation where... 913 00:45:10,247 --> 00:45:12,148 Asia's opening. 914 00:45:12,149 --> 00:45:13,950 They don't announce... market goes in the toilet. 915 00:45:13,951 --> 00:45:17,020 We have to consider the appropriate role of government here. 916 00:45:17,021 --> 00:45:19,489 Can I as chairman of S.E.C. move forward and...? 917 00:45:19,490 --> 00:45:21,991 You guys are like the gang that can't shoot straight. 918 00:45:21,992 --> 00:45:24,327 This is your job. 919 00:45:24,328 --> 00:45:27,913 Make the damn phone call. 920 00:45:34,672 --> 00:45:36,807 Chris, this is Dick Fuld. 921 00:45:36,808 --> 00:45:38,875 The board is in session. Everyone is here... 922 00:45:38,876 --> 00:45:41,511 all the directors and the firm's counsel. 923 00:45:41,512 --> 00:45:43,313 We understand 924 00:45:43,314 --> 00:45:45,816 the Barclays deal has imploded. 925 00:45:45,817 --> 00:45:50,087 We were hoping you might have some option 926 00:45:50,088 --> 00:45:52,622 that we haven't thought of yet. 927 00:45:52,623 --> 00:45:56,026 Uh, the markets are in turmoil, as you know. 928 00:45:56,027 --> 00:45:58,695 A Lehman bankruptcy will help 929 00:45:58,696 --> 00:46:01,532 settle that uncertainty and, we believe, calm the market. 930 00:46:01,533 --> 00:46:04,368 Both the Fed and SEC are in agreement about this. 931 00:46:04,369 --> 00:46:06,055 Well, let me under... 932 00:46:06,056 --> 00:46:07,537 I'm sorry, let me see if I understand this. 933 00:46:07,538 --> 00:46:09,806 Are... are you directing us 934 00:46:09,807 --> 00:46:12,375 to put Lehman into bankruptcy? 935 00:46:12,376 --> 00:46:14,260 Give us a moment. 936 00:46:15,379 --> 00:46:17,297 - He's muted. - What the hell was that? 937 00:46:20,284 --> 00:46:22,552 Tell them to file. 938 00:46:22,553 --> 00:46:25,689 Everything said in that meeting is or will be public record. 939 00:46:25,690 --> 00:46:28,057 I can't tell a private company to file for bankruptcy. 940 00:46:28,058 --> 00:46:29,760 I don't have that power. 941 00:46:29,761 --> 00:46:32,345 Do I? 942 00:46:34,732 --> 00:46:36,983 Do it. 943 00:46:48,579 --> 00:46:51,981 The decision to file for bankruptcy protection 944 00:46:51,982 --> 00:46:55,051 is one the board needs to make. 945 00:46:55,052 --> 00:46:57,754 It is not the government's decision. 946 00:46:57,755 --> 00:47:00,574 But we do believe... 947 00:47:02,427 --> 00:47:04,428 That the situation should be resolved. 948 00:47:04,429 --> 00:47:06,964 So you're not directing us to file? 949 00:47:06,965 --> 00:47:09,266 I'm not saying anything more than I've just said. 950 00:47:09,267 --> 00:47:11,018 Thank you. 951 00:47:24,248 --> 00:47:26,700 Take the vote. 952 00:47:28,019 --> 00:47:30,154 - Mr. Akers. - Yes. 953 00:47:30,155 --> 00:47:33,424 Sir Christopher. 954 00:47:33,425 --> 00:47:34,591 Yes. 955 00:47:34,592 --> 00:47:36,860 Admiral Evans. 956 00:47:36,861 --> 00:47:40,230 I'm sorry, but yes. 957 00:47:40,231 --> 00:47:42,716 Chairman Fuld. 958 00:47:44,770 --> 00:47:47,021 Dick? 959 00:47:52,311 --> 00:47:54,896 Yes. 960 00:47:56,883 --> 00:47:59,017 Mr. Hernandez. 961 00:47:59,018 --> 00:48:01,553 Yes. 962 00:48:01,554 --> 00:48:03,722 Mr. Ainslie. 963 00:48:03,723 --> 00:48:05,524 Yes. 964 00:48:05,525 --> 00:48:08,561 - Mr. Berlind. - Yes. 965 00:48:08,562 --> 00:48:11,063 - Mr. Cruikshank. - Yes. 966 00:48:11,064 --> 00:48:14,032 - Dr. Kaufman. - Yes. 967 00:48:14,033 --> 00:48:17,719 Mr. Macomber. 968 00:48:18,838 --> 00:48:20,605 P? 969 00:48:20,606 --> 00:48:24,109 - Lehman's gone. - Oh honey. 970 00:48:24,110 --> 00:48:26,111 I should have know the British were gonna be a problem. 971 00:48:26,112 --> 00:48:28,797 I spoke to them two days ago. I should have read between the lines. 972 00:48:31,651 --> 00:48:34,119 You can't take all this on. 973 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,156 There's a lot of other people involved. 974 00:48:37,157 --> 00:48:39,992 It's on me. I'm Treasury Secretary 975 00:48:39,993 --> 00:48:42,428 and the fourth largest investment bank in the country 976 00:48:42,429 --> 00:48:45,164 failed on my watch. 977 00:48:45,165 --> 00:48:48,934 I mean, I... I... 978 00:48:48,935 --> 00:48:51,954 I don't know what's gonna happen. 979 00:48:53,941 --> 00:48:56,358 Miss you too. 980 00:49:41,388 --> 00:49:43,872 Taxi. 981 00:49:57,139 --> 00:49:59,741 Jim, I'm at Midtown. 982 00:49:59,742 --> 00:50:03,112 The ticker is... 983 00:50:03,113 --> 00:50:05,448 what the hell am I looking at? 984 00:50:05,449 --> 00:50:07,934 Hank, it's good. 985 00:50:12,657 --> 00:50:14,793 "It is oddly reassuring 986 00:50:14,794 --> 00:50:17,697 that the Treasury Department and the Federal Reserve 987 00:50:17,698 --> 00:50:19,266 let Lehman Brothers fail". 988 00:50:19,267 --> 00:50:21,268 Oh, okay, here it is. Here it is. 989 00:50:21,269 --> 00:50:23,637 Government intervention would have been seen 990 00:50:23,638 --> 00:50:25,440 a sign of extreme peril 991 00:50:25,441 --> 00:50:27,475 in the global financial system 992 00:50:27,476 --> 00:50:30,446 or extreme weakness on the part of federal regulators". 993 00:50:30,447 --> 00:50:32,648 "The New York" fucking "Times". 994 00:50:32,649 --> 00:50:35,618 Yeah, and it's not just them. It's everybody. 995 00:50:35,619 --> 00:50:39,289 Thank you, Senator. I appreciate it. 996 00:50:39,290 --> 00:50:41,725 Congress is liking it. 997 00:50:41,726 --> 00:50:43,927 I'm not sure they should be so happy about this, 998 00:50:43,928 --> 00:50:46,997 but they like that we let Lehman go. 999 00:50:46,998 --> 00:50:50,200 You stood strong. You've got brass balls. 1000 00:50:50,201 --> 00:50:52,336 It's what people need at a time like this. 1001 00:50:52,337 --> 00:50:54,471 What is the market doing? 1002 00:50:54,472 --> 00:50:56,205 Uh, Europe's only down a little. 1003 00:50:56,206 --> 00:50:58,106 Dow Jones futures only off 3%. 1004 00:50:58,107 --> 00:51:00,340 So you need to build on this at the press conference. 1005 00:51:00,341 --> 00:51:03,542 The story is we did everything we could for Lehman. 1006 00:51:03,543 --> 00:51:05,277 - We did. - And the takeaway is... 1007 00:51:05,278 --> 00:51:08,012 No more bailouts. 1008 00:51:08,013 --> 00:51:09,680 Mr. Secretary. 1009 00:51:09,681 --> 00:51:11,581 How should we read what happened with Lehman? 1010 00:51:11,582 --> 00:51:13,616 Read it as I think it's important 1011 00:51:13,617 --> 00:51:16,085 to maintain the stability 1012 00:51:16,086 --> 00:51:19,755 and orderliness of our financial system; 1013 00:51:19,756 --> 00:51:24,861 and, um, the... 1014 00:51:24,862 --> 00:51:28,231 Moral hazard is something I don't take lightly. 1015 00:51:28,232 --> 00:51:30,332 Mr. Paulson. Mr. Secretary, sir. 1016 00:51:30,333 --> 00:51:33,703 How do you see the health of the banking system today? 1017 00:51:33,704 --> 00:51:35,738 The way the markets are performing today... 1018 00:51:35,739 --> 00:51:38,842 it's a testament to how the financial industry has come together 1019 00:51:38,843 --> 00:51:40,977 in an extraordinary set of circumstances. 1020 00:51:40,978 --> 00:51:42,980 The American people can remain confident 1021 00:51:42,981 --> 00:51:45,383 in the soundness and the resilience 1022 00:51:45,384 --> 00:51:47,685 of the financial system. 1023 00:51:47,686 --> 00:51:49,253 Thank you all. 1024 00:51:49,254 --> 00:51:51,989 Mr. Secretary. Mr. Paulson. 1025 00:51:51,990 --> 00:51:54,158 What? 1026 00:51:54,159 --> 00:51:56,961 Dow's falling off a cliff... 400 points already. 1027 00:51:56,962 --> 00:51:59,062 And the credit markets are frozen. 1028 00:51:59,063 --> 00:52:01,931 Goldman and Morgan Stanley are getting slammed by withdrawals. 1029 00:52:01,932 --> 00:52:04,250 The Lehman thing's killing them. 1030 00:52:05,536 --> 00:52:07,404 I should talk to the President 1031 00:52:07,405 --> 00:52:10,006 about how we'll contain the damage. 1032 00:52:10,007 --> 00:52:12,509 Before you speak to the President, 1033 00:52:12,510 --> 00:52:14,828 we've had another problem. 1034 00:52:16,046 --> 00:52:17,713 A.I.G. 1035 00:52:17,714 --> 00:52:20,249 Mr. Geithner is working with A.I.G. 1036 00:52:20,250 --> 00:52:22,084 on a private-sector solution 1037 00:52:22,085 --> 00:52:24,086 and the Secretary is monitoring 1038 00:52:24,087 --> 00:52:26,022 their progress very carefully. 1039 00:52:26,023 --> 00:52:30,660 He's in close contact with the Congressional leadership, most... 1040 00:52:30,661 --> 00:52:32,529 the White House wants a briefing on A.I.G. 1041 00:52:32,530 --> 00:52:34,365 They're more informed about that than we are. 1042 00:52:34,366 --> 00:52:36,032 We've got the same information they do. 1043 00:52:36,033 --> 00:52:39,035 No, we don't believe that Lehman's bankruptcy 1044 00:52:39,036 --> 00:52:41,071 is taking down all of Wall Street. 1045 00:52:41,072 --> 00:52:42,940 Okay, so how do you explain...? 1046 00:52:42,941 --> 00:52:44,943 The A.I.G. situation may have been, 1047 00:52:44,944 --> 00:52:47,713 you know, exacerbated by the... 1048 00:52:47,714 --> 00:52:49,831 and Barney Frank's office. 1049 00:52:50,917 --> 00:52:52,184 Yeah. 1050 00:52:52,185 --> 00:52:55,554 A surprise? No, A.I.G. has been struggling... 1051 00:52:55,555 --> 00:52:58,623 Well, why didn't you guys head off this situation six months ago? 1052 00:52:58,624 --> 00:53:02,425 Because the requisite magic wand wasn't available, Doug. 1053 00:53:02,426 --> 00:53:04,226 But if we do find one, 1054 00:53:04,227 --> 00:53:06,811 you will be among the very first to know. 1055 00:53:07,563 --> 00:53:09,931 Blankfein on four, urgent. 1056 00:53:09,932 --> 00:53:12,400 I have to go. 1057 00:53:12,401 --> 00:53:13,968 Hey Lloyd. 1058 00:53:13,969 --> 00:53:16,303 The goddamn British bankruptcy administrator 1059 00:53:16,304 --> 00:53:18,606 froze all of Lehman's customer accounts. 1060 00:53:18,607 --> 00:53:21,244 You didn't square this with the British before you did it? 1061 00:53:21,245 --> 00:53:22,879 Geithner on five. 1062 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,614 People are freaking out. 1063 00:53:24,615 --> 00:53:26,649 They can't get their money. 1064 00:53:26,650 --> 00:53:29,018 Not investors... clients. 1065 00:53:29,019 --> 00:53:31,654 If customers think their money wasn't safe with Lehman, 1066 00:53:31,655 --> 00:53:33,489 they're not gonna trust us either. 1067 00:53:33,490 --> 00:53:36,759 No one will do business with us. 1068 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,493 You're gonna have to hang on. 1069 00:53:38,494 --> 00:53:39,925 Tim. 1070 00:53:39,926 --> 00:53:42,394 Dan spoke to Moody's. They're downgrading A.I.G. tonight. 1071 00:53:42,395 --> 00:53:45,862 Would have happened anyway, but Lehman put the whole thing into hyperdrive. 1072 00:53:45,863 --> 00:53:47,463 How far down are they? 1073 00:53:47,464 --> 00:53:49,131 French finance minster on six. 1074 00:53:49,132 --> 00:53:51,399 They don't know. 1075 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,068 We're working on that. 1076 00:53:54,069 --> 00:53:55,935 Christine. 1077 00:53:55,936 --> 00:53:57,803 How could you let this happen with Lehman? 1078 00:53:57,804 --> 00:53:59,438 What on earth were you thinking? 1079 00:53:59,439 --> 00:54:02,273 We did everything we could, Christine. 1080 00:54:02,274 --> 00:54:04,508 You allowed it to fail, Hank. 1081 00:54:04,509 --> 00:54:06,310 It was a horrifying mistake. 1082 00:54:06,311 --> 00:54:09,011 It is having catastrophic consequences all over Europe. 1083 00:54:09,012 --> 00:54:11,213 And A.I.G. would be even worse. 1084 00:54:11,214 --> 00:54:14,815 The European banks have tremendous exposure to A.I.G. 1085 00:54:14,816 --> 00:54:18,317 We need assurance you will not fail to act as you did with Lehman. 1086 00:54:18,318 --> 00:54:21,169 It is not just an American problem. 1087 00:54:22,354 --> 00:54:23,820 Thank you so much for... 1088 00:54:23,821 --> 00:54:25,088 John Mack. 1089 00:54:25,089 --> 00:54:26,622 Hey... uh... 1090 00:54:26,623 --> 00:54:28,874 - John. - Secretary: John... one. 1091 00:54:29,892 --> 00:54:33,161 The fallout from Lehman is killing us. 1092 00:54:33,162 --> 00:54:35,430 The short-sellers are all over us. 1093 00:54:35,431 --> 00:54:36,964 We're down 10% already. 1094 00:54:36,965 --> 00:54:39,466 You guys have no idea what's going on out here. 1095 00:54:39,467 --> 00:54:41,968 How are your earnings? 1096 00:54:41,969 --> 00:54:44,537 Strong. We're gonna announce Friday. 1097 00:54:44,538 --> 00:54:45,955 Announce now. 1098 00:54:47,374 --> 00:54:49,542 Okay, Lloyd, sorry. 1099 00:54:49,543 --> 00:54:52,645 Hank, if depositors see they can't get their assets out of Lehman, 1100 00:54:52,646 --> 00:54:54,647 the next step is gonna be a massive pullout 1101 00:54:54,648 --> 00:54:56,816 from all the investment banks. 1102 00:54:56,817 --> 00:54:58,568 Jeff Immelt from G.E. 1103 00:54:59,788 --> 00:55:02,222 Jesus, what's Immelt calling you for? 1104 00:55:02,223 --> 00:55:04,092 I have to go. 1105 00:55:04,093 --> 00:55:05,527 Jeff. 1106 00:55:05,528 --> 00:55:07,662 You gotta know what's going on out here. 1107 00:55:07,663 --> 00:55:10,932 We're having trouble funding our day-to-day operations. 1108 00:55:10,933 --> 00:55:14,469 Our finance division is infecting the rest of our business. 1109 00:55:14,470 --> 00:55:16,337 General Electric? 1110 00:55:16,338 --> 00:55:19,473 This thing is spreading way past Wall Street. 1111 00:55:19,474 --> 00:55:22,109 I get that nobody wants to touch mortgages, 1112 00:55:22,110 --> 00:55:25,245 but we're making planes and engines, and light bulbs. 1113 00:55:25,246 --> 00:55:27,714 We're a healthy company. 1114 00:55:27,715 --> 00:55:30,784 If we can't finance our day-to-day operations, 1115 00:55:30,785 --> 00:55:34,405 every business in America's gonna be shutting down. 1116 00:55:41,829 --> 00:55:44,063 Where's A.I.G.? 1117 00:55:44,064 --> 00:55:45,398 It closed at $2. 1118 00:55:45,399 --> 00:55:47,833 Tim thinks we need to do something big. 1119 00:55:47,834 --> 00:55:49,268 Ben agrees, and so do I. 1120 00:55:49,269 --> 00:55:51,303 What can we do? A.I.G.'s not even a bank. 1121 00:55:51,304 --> 00:55:53,305 The Fed can lend to nonbanks 1122 00:55:53,306 --> 00:55:56,041 under unusual and exigent circumstances. 1123 00:55:56,042 --> 00:55:59,930 We're thinking of taking over 80% of the company. 1124 00:56:02,050 --> 00:56:04,618 Hank, we can't. 1125 00:56:04,619 --> 00:56:07,722 This morning we were lecturing the entire country on moral hazard. 1126 00:56:07,723 --> 00:56:10,558 A.I.G. has collateral. They have assets. 1127 00:56:10,559 --> 00:56:13,995 Lehman didn't. We couldn't lend into a hole. 1128 00:56:13,996 --> 00:56:15,797 It's not the same story. 1129 00:56:15,798 --> 00:56:17,766 Nobody's gonna care. 1130 00:56:17,767 --> 00:56:20,569 It's another bailout with no legislation. 1131 00:56:20,570 --> 00:56:22,771 The Hill's gonna go crazy. The country's gonna go crazy. 1132 00:56:22,772 --> 00:56:24,806 The plane that we flew in on this morning... 1133 00:56:24,807 --> 00:56:26,774 leased from A.I.G. 1134 00:56:26,775 --> 00:56:29,010 Construction downtown... A.I.G. 1135 00:56:29,011 --> 00:56:31,980 Life insurance... 81 million policies 1136 00:56:31,981 --> 00:56:34,316 with a face value of $1.9 trillion, 1137 00:56:34,317 --> 00:56:37,619 billions of dollars in teachers' pensions... it's everywhere. 1138 00:56:37,620 --> 00:56:40,221 You want too big to fail? Here it is. 1139 00:56:40,222 --> 00:56:42,223 You got a better idea? 1140 00:56:42,224 --> 00:56:44,541 The suggestion box is wide open. 1141 00:56:51,132 --> 00:56:53,734 I hate to do this right now, 1142 00:56:53,735 --> 00:56:56,070 but I'm gonna have to have a press call first thing, 1143 00:56:56,071 --> 00:56:58,139 and I really don't know what I'm gonna tell them. 1144 00:56:58,140 --> 00:57:00,810 Tell them Lehman exacerbated A.I.G., 1145 00:57:00,811 --> 00:57:03,513 the simultaneous payouts of C.D.O.s 1146 00:57:03,514 --> 00:57:06,149 and credit default swaps put catastrophic pressure on... 1147 00:57:06,150 --> 00:57:09,353 Go back further. 1148 00:57:09,354 --> 00:57:11,655 The global pool of investment capital... 1149 00:57:11,656 --> 00:57:13,790 she has to do this in English. 1150 00:57:13,791 --> 00:57:15,925 Start with the homeowners. 1151 00:57:15,926 --> 00:57:18,894 Okay okay, here's how you explain it. 1152 00:57:18,895 --> 00:57:23,465 Wall Street started bundling 1153 00:57:23,466 --> 00:57:25,601 home loans together... mortgage-backed securities... 1154 00:57:25,602 --> 00:57:28,905 and selling slices of those bundles to investors. 1155 00:57:28,906 --> 00:57:31,174 And they were making big money, 1156 00:57:31,175 --> 00:57:33,443 so they started pushing the lenders, saying, 1157 00:57:33,444 --> 00:57:35,512 "come on, we need more loans. 1158 00:57:35,513 --> 00:57:37,516 The lenders had already given loans 1159 00:57:37,517 --> 00:57:39,520 to borrowers with good credit, 1160 00:57:39,521 --> 00:57:42,090 so they go bottom-feeding. They lower their criteria. 1161 00:57:42,091 --> 00:57:44,793 Before, you needed a credit score of 620 1162 00:57:44,794 --> 00:57:46,996 and a downpayment of 20%. 1163 00:57:46,997 --> 00:57:49,532 Now they'll settle for 500, no money down. 1164 00:57:49,533 --> 00:57:51,767 And the buyer... the regular guy on the street... 1165 00:57:51,768 --> 00:57:53,569 assumes that the experts know what they're doing. 1166 00:57:53,570 --> 00:57:56,172 He's saying to himself, "if the bank's willing to loan me money, 1167 00:57:56,173 --> 00:57:57,940 I must be able to afford it". 1168 00:57:57,941 --> 00:58:00,276 So he reaches for the American dream. 1169 00:58:00,277 --> 00:58:01,844 He buys that house. 1170 00:58:01,845 --> 00:58:05,080 The banks knew securities based on shitbag mortgages were risky. 1171 00:58:05,081 --> 00:58:06,549 You'll work on "shitbag". 1172 00:58:06,550 --> 00:58:08,117 So to control their downside, 1173 00:58:08,118 --> 00:58:09,952 the banks started buying a kind of insurance. 1174 00:58:09,953 --> 00:58:13,089 If mortgages default, insurance company pays... 1175 00:58:13,090 --> 00:58:14,890 default swap. 1176 00:58:14,891 --> 00:58:17,059 The banks insure their potential losses 1177 00:58:17,060 --> 00:58:18,861 to move the risk off their books 1178 00:58:18,862 --> 00:58:21,196 so they can invest more, make more money. 1179 00:58:21,197 --> 00:58:23,400 And when a lot of companies insured this stuff, 1180 00:58:23,401 --> 00:58:26,936 one was dumb enough to take on an almost unbelievable amount of risk. 1181 00:58:26,937 --> 00:58:29,405 - A.I.G. - And you'll work on "dumb". 1182 00:58:29,406 --> 00:58:31,640 And when they ask me why they did that? 1183 00:58:31,641 --> 00:58:34,009 - Fees. - Hundreds of millions in fees. 1184 00:58:34,010 --> 00:58:36,612 A.I.G. figured the housing market would just keep going up, 1185 00:58:36,613 --> 00:58:38,080 but then the unexpected happens. 1186 00:58:38,081 --> 00:58:40,249 Housing prices go down. 1187 00:58:40,250 --> 00:58:42,084 The poor bastard who bought his dream house... 1188 00:58:42,085 --> 00:58:44,253 the teaser rate on his mortgage runs out. 1189 00:58:44,254 --> 00:58:46,855 His payments go up. He defaults. 1190 00:58:46,856 --> 00:58:48,657 Mortgage-backed securities tank. 1191 00:58:48,658 --> 00:58:50,626 A.I.G. has to pay off the swaps... 1192 00:58:50,627 --> 00:58:52,896 all of them all over the world 1193 00:58:52,897 --> 00:58:54,931 at the same time. 1194 00:58:54,932 --> 00:58:58,067 A.I.G. can't pay. A.I.G. goes under. 1195 00:58:58,068 --> 00:59:00,469 Every bank they insure 1196 00:59:00,470 --> 00:59:04,307 books massive losses on the same day. 1197 00:59:04,308 --> 00:59:06,509 And then they all go under. 1198 00:59:06,510 --> 00:59:09,028 It all comes down. 1199 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,531 The whole financial system? 1200 00:59:17,187 --> 00:59:19,490 And what do I say 1201 00:59:19,491 --> 00:59:22,259 when they ask me why it wasn't regulated? 1202 00:59:22,260 --> 00:59:26,129 No one wanted to. 1203 00:59:26,130 --> 00:59:29,616 We were making too much money. 1204 00:59:39,344 --> 00:59:41,311 You'll work on 1205 00:59:41,312 --> 00:59:44,064 "we were making too much money". 1206 00:59:56,262 --> 00:59:58,563 Hey, Hank, 1207 00:59:58,564 --> 01:00:01,099 um... 1208 01:00:01,100 --> 01:00:03,134 These are really mild, 1209 01:00:03,135 --> 01:00:05,270 but they work. 1210 01:00:05,271 --> 01:00:08,406 I know the whole Christian Scientist thing... 1211 01:00:08,407 --> 01:00:11,643 that you don't take medicine. 1212 01:00:11,644 --> 01:00:14,462 But you need to sleep. 1213 01:00:16,349 --> 01:00:18,084 Jim... 1214 01:00:18,085 --> 01:00:20,419 Hank, not just for your own sake. 1215 01:00:20,420 --> 01:00:22,671 Okay? 1216 01:00:26,593 --> 01:00:28,878 You don't look so good. 1217 01:00:33,300 --> 01:00:35,868 Just minutes ago CNN has confirmed 1218 01:00:35,869 --> 01:00:38,137 that the Federal Reserve is negotiating 1219 01:00:38,138 --> 01:00:40,506 to rescue insurance giant AIG 1220 01:00:40,507 --> 01:00:42,509 The negotiations could include 1221 01:00:42,510 --> 01:00:44,978 an $85 billion temporary loan 1222 01:00:44,979 --> 01:00:47,182 to stave off AIG's imminent collapse. 1223 01:00:47,183 --> 01:00:48,816 This is a blockbuster, folks. 1224 01:00:48,817 --> 01:00:51,319 About this time last night, many on Wall Street 1225 01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,487 were fearing total disaster today. 1226 01:00:53,488 --> 01:00:55,488 So another federal bailout... 1227 01:00:55,489 --> 01:00:57,390 of another Wall Street giant... 1228 01:00:57,391 --> 01:00:59,959 again, as we mentioned, big big financial news. 1229 01:00:59,960 --> 01:01:03,629 And this affects almost everyone out there who has a 401k. 1230 01:01:03,630 --> 01:01:05,498 The news comes about 3 and 1/2 hours... 1231 01:01:05,499 --> 01:01:07,867 after the stock exchange closed on... 1232 01:01:07,868 --> 01:01:10,636 Motherfucker. 1233 01:01:10,637 --> 01:01:12,705 We want to go straight right now to Ali Velshi 1234 01:01:12,706 --> 01:01:14,874 to kind of give us a bottom line on this, Ali. 1235 01:01:14,875 --> 01:01:17,043 And then we're gonna get a lot more in depth... 1236 01:01:17,044 --> 01:01:18,745 AIG securing an 85... 1237 01:01:18,746 --> 01:01:20,746 The credit markets are still frozen solid. 1238 01:01:20,747 --> 01:01:22,749 We keep dumping money into these companies 1239 01:01:22,750 --> 01:01:25,986 so the markets will stabilize, 1240 01:01:25,987 --> 01:01:27,454 and nothing helps. 1241 01:01:27,455 --> 01:01:30,123 We can't keep doing this. 1242 01:01:30,124 --> 01:01:32,759 We rescued Bear with no legislation, 1243 01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:36,196 A.I.G. with no legislation. 1244 01:01:36,197 --> 01:01:38,598 People think Fannie and Freddie was a bait-and-switch. 1245 01:01:38,599 --> 01:01:40,200 I don't like it any more than you do, 1246 01:01:40,201 --> 01:01:42,135 but they were exceptional situations. 1247 01:01:42,136 --> 01:01:45,172 This situation demands an endgame 1248 01:01:45,173 --> 01:01:48,441 that does not rely on unilateral action from the Fed. 1249 01:01:48,442 --> 01:01:50,109 This is a democracy. 1250 01:01:50,110 --> 01:01:52,746 We cannot be men behind the curtain pulling the strings. 1251 01:01:52,747 --> 01:01:54,915 We need some kind of an overall solution 1252 01:01:54,916 --> 01:01:57,284 that heals the entire system. 1253 01:01:57,285 --> 01:01:59,486 And it has to be legitimate. 1254 01:01:59,487 --> 01:02:01,121 We've been putting off going to Congress. 1255 01:02:01,122 --> 01:02:03,057 It's two months before an election. 1256 01:02:03,058 --> 01:02:06,260 They can't vote yes to a massive bailout 1257 01:02:06,261 --> 01:02:08,028 of the entire banking system. 1258 01:02:08,029 --> 01:02:09,530 They'd never get reelected. 1259 01:02:09,531 --> 01:02:11,532 - Hank... - We go to Congress, 1260 01:02:11,533 --> 01:02:14,135 publically state we don't have the firepower 1261 01:02:14,136 --> 01:02:16,637 to control this anymore, 1262 01:02:16,638 --> 01:02:18,673 and then they say no... 1263 01:02:18,674 --> 01:02:22,810 that is really the nightmare scenario. 1264 01:02:22,811 --> 01:02:27,415 The nightmare scenario's already here, my friend. 1265 01:02:27,416 --> 01:02:30,935 We're in it. 1266 01:03:30,113 --> 01:03:32,364 P. 1267 01:03:43,126 --> 01:03:45,194 You can't put this all on your own shoulders. 1268 01:03:45,195 --> 01:03:46,929 We're running out of options. 1269 01:03:46,930 --> 01:03:49,498 Then you just keep trying. 1270 01:03:49,499 --> 01:03:51,634 That's what you do. 1271 01:03:51,635 --> 01:03:53,802 Eventually something's gonna work. 1272 01:03:53,803 --> 01:03:56,772 I'm not sure that that is true anymore. 1273 01:03:56,773 --> 01:03:59,341 There's not a bank in the world 1274 01:03:59,342 --> 01:04:01,343 that has enough money in its vault 1275 01:04:01,344 --> 01:04:02,844 to pay its depositors. 1276 01:04:02,845 --> 01:04:05,481 It's all built on trust. 1277 01:04:05,482 --> 01:04:07,784 And... and, Wendy, we... 1278 01:04:07,785 --> 01:04:11,504 we are so very close. 1279 01:04:14,291 --> 01:04:18,061 Morgan Stanley, Goldman are an inch away. 1280 01:04:18,062 --> 01:04:20,830 If the other banks stop trusting them, 1281 01:04:20,831 --> 01:04:23,833 if they pull back on interbank lending, 1282 01:04:23,834 --> 01:04:26,135 it's over in a matter of hours. 1283 01:04:26,136 --> 01:04:28,671 And from there it goes 1284 01:04:28,672 --> 01:04:30,673 too fast to stop... a run... 1285 01:04:30,674 --> 01:04:33,442 and not just on that one bank. 1286 01:04:33,443 --> 01:04:35,445 I mean, on the whole system. 1287 01:04:35,446 --> 01:04:38,348 And average people wondering, 1288 01:04:38,349 --> 01:04:40,816 "is my money safe?" 1289 01:04:40,817 --> 01:04:43,868 They start pulling their cash. 1290 01:04:45,688 --> 01:04:47,655 And after that... 1291 01:04:47,656 --> 01:04:50,926 lines outside the banks, smashed A.T.M.s. 1292 01:04:50,927 --> 01:04:54,330 A couple of weeks... 1293 01:04:54,331 --> 01:04:57,333 there's no milk in the store. 1294 01:04:57,334 --> 01:04:59,235 For the second time this week 1295 01:04:59,236 --> 01:05:01,070 there was a massive selloff on Wall Street, 1296 01:05:01,071 --> 01:05:04,675 the Dow Jones Industrials freefalling some 450 points 1297 01:05:04,676 --> 01:05:06,677 on news of a taxpayer-funded bailout 1298 01:05:06,678 --> 01:05:08,612 of the A.I.G. Insurance company. 1299 01:05:08,613 --> 01:05:11,014 Three of the five investment banks are gone. 1300 01:05:11,015 --> 01:05:13,450 The country's biggest mortgage lender is gone. 1301 01:05:13,451 --> 01:05:16,220 Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac brought under government control. 1302 01:05:16,221 --> 01:05:18,356 The financial system is holding right now, 1303 01:05:18,357 --> 01:05:19,992 but for how long? 1304 01:05:19,993 --> 01:05:22,662 All the King's horses and all the King's men 1305 01:05:22,663 --> 01:05:25,214 are being brought to bear to keep this thing together. 1306 01:05:51,688 --> 01:05:52,854 Hi Tim. 1307 01:05:52,855 --> 01:05:54,822 I'm on the street, Hank, 1308 01:05:54,823 --> 01:05:57,024 and people are just going about their business. 1309 01:05:57,025 --> 01:06:00,361 They have no idea the whole thing is about to fall down. 1310 01:06:00,362 --> 01:06:02,930 We're gonna have to go to Congress. 1311 01:06:02,931 --> 01:06:04,531 We don't have a choice anymore. 1312 01:06:04,532 --> 01:06:06,233 Okay. 1313 01:06:06,234 --> 01:06:08,267 How fast do you think you can get them to move? 1314 01:06:08,268 --> 01:06:10,469 It's gonna be at least a couple days. 1315 01:06:10,470 --> 01:06:13,706 Goldman and Morgan Stanley are going down now. 1316 01:06:13,707 --> 01:06:15,408 We gotta do something today. 1317 01:06:15,409 --> 01:06:16,609 Like what? 1318 01:06:16,610 --> 01:06:18,745 The market doesn't like investment banks, right? 1319 01:06:18,746 --> 01:06:21,180 The money's saying fuck you to the whole business model. 1320 01:06:21,181 --> 01:06:22,715 Yeah. 1321 01:06:22,716 --> 01:06:25,819 Yeah, so merge them with commercial banks, 1322 01:06:25,820 --> 01:06:27,955 turn them into regular banks regulated by the Fed. 1323 01:06:27,956 --> 01:06:29,690 They can use depositors' cash. 1324 01:06:29,691 --> 01:06:31,693 It will give them access to the discount window. 1325 01:06:31,694 --> 01:06:34,662 It's cheap government cash. 1326 01:06:34,663 --> 01:06:37,565 - You want to make them bigger? - It's a trade-off, Hank. 1327 01:06:37,566 --> 01:06:41,503 The upside is it'll stabilize them. 1328 01:06:41,504 --> 01:06:44,072 The downside is, 1329 01:06:44,073 --> 01:06:48,076 yeah, they'll be really fucking big. 1330 01:06:48,077 --> 01:06:50,429 Do it, Tim. 1331 01:06:52,249 --> 01:06:54,267 Godspeed. 1332 01:07:11,473 --> 01:07:14,192 Get me Blankfein. 1333 01:07:15,544 --> 01:07:17,846 Lloyd, call Vikram Pandit, talk to him about a merger. 1334 01:07:17,847 --> 01:07:19,882 Tim, we're looking at all our options. 1335 01:07:19,883 --> 01:07:21,885 You don't have options, Lloyd. 1336 01:07:21,886 --> 01:07:23,386 There's a run on your bank. 1337 01:07:23,387 --> 01:07:25,256 You need money... Citi has deposits. 1338 01:07:25,257 --> 01:07:28,276 Citi is a mess... you're organized. Call Pandit. 1339 01:07:37,539 --> 01:07:38,904 Yeah. 1340 01:07:38,905 --> 01:07:40,608 I want you to look at merging with Morgan Stanley. 1341 01:07:40,609 --> 01:07:42,577 What, are you kidding me? I just bought Bear. 1342 01:07:42,578 --> 01:07:44,212 We're still trying to make that work. 1343 01:07:44,213 --> 01:07:46,348 You didn't buy Bear. You got Bear as a Christmas present. 1344 01:07:46,349 --> 01:07:48,217 The market's a fucking disaster, Jamie. 1345 01:07:48,218 --> 01:07:50,386 Talk to John Mack. 1346 01:07:50,387 --> 01:07:53,156 Hey, Geithner says we should talk about a merger. 1347 01:07:53,157 --> 01:07:55,292 - You want to do a deal? - No. 1348 01:07:55,293 --> 01:07:57,462 Then why the fuck did he tell me to call you? 1349 01:07:57,463 --> 01:07:59,698 I'm under orders to try and help you. 1350 01:07:59,699 --> 01:08:03,252 You're a prince, Jamie... a real prince. 1351 01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:08,942 Apparently some people seem to think 1352 01:08:08,943 --> 01:08:11,178 combining our firms would be a good idea. 1353 01:08:11,179 --> 01:08:14,148 Well, I want you to know I'm flattered by this call. 1354 01:08:14,149 --> 01:08:16,317 Vikram, I'm not trying 1355 01:08:16,318 --> 01:08:18,419 to flatter you, believe me. 1356 01:08:18,420 --> 01:08:20,021 Geithner's calling. 1357 01:08:20,022 --> 01:08:22,424 Oh, here comes goddamn eharmony. 1358 01:08:22,425 --> 01:08:25,044 Hey, guess what. Jaime's not interested. 1359 01:08:26,797 --> 01:08:28,966 Do Wachovia. 1360 01:08:28,967 --> 01:08:31,134 They were writing mortgages with their eyes closed. 1361 01:08:31,135 --> 01:08:33,453 Tim, it's a shit sandwich. Forget it. 1362 01:08:38,975 --> 01:08:41,210 Well, I haven't been able to reach you for four hours. 1363 01:08:41,211 --> 01:08:44,614 That is... that is totally fucking unacceptable on a day like today. 1364 01:08:44,615 --> 01:08:47,583 I had to run my team through the Goldman proposal. 1365 01:08:47,584 --> 01:08:49,251 It's not gonna work. 1366 01:08:49,252 --> 01:08:52,688 You passed on Goldman without even talking to me? 1367 01:08:52,689 --> 01:08:56,008 I don't need another trillion dollars on my balance sheet. 1368 01:08:59,596 --> 01:09:03,816 Next time I call, pick up. 1369 01:09:04,568 --> 01:09:06,736 Fucker. 1370 01:09:06,737 --> 01:09:09,872 The problem is the toxic assets. Let's just buy them. 1371 01:09:09,873 --> 01:09:12,141 Ooh, call it cash-for-trash. 1372 01:09:12,142 --> 01:09:14,875 When the market stabilizes, we'll unload them. 1373 01:09:14,876 --> 01:09:16,976 Hopefully Treasury will get its money back. 1374 01:09:16,977 --> 01:09:19,512 - Is that in the break-the-glass plan? - Basically. 1375 01:09:19,513 --> 01:09:21,523 My copy's missing some pages. 1376 01:09:21,524 --> 01:09:22,866 Could someone else show me the rest of... 1377 01:09:22,867 --> 01:09:25,014 It's succinct. 1378 01:09:25,015 --> 01:09:27,216 We've got one shot with Congress. 1379 01:09:27,217 --> 01:09:30,884 You want them to write a piece of legislation based on three pages? 1380 01:09:30,885 --> 01:09:32,252 Look, guys, 1381 01:09:32,253 --> 01:09:34,519 buying toxic assets is gonna be a nightmare. 1382 01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:36,353 Nobody knows what the stuff's worth. 1383 01:09:36,354 --> 01:09:39,154 It'll take forever to untangle. These banks are going down now. 1384 01:09:39,155 --> 01:09:40,321 So what do we do? 1385 01:09:40,322 --> 01:09:42,023 You want to unfreeze credit, right? 1386 01:09:42,024 --> 01:09:43,658 You want the banks to lend people money? 1387 01:09:43,659 --> 01:09:46,745 - That's the goal. - So give them money to lend. 1388 01:09:48,999 --> 01:09:50,933 Capital injections? 1389 01:09:50,934 --> 01:09:52,524 Dan, come on. 1390 01:09:52,525 --> 01:09:53,926 I can't believe you're pulling out the "n" word. 1391 01:09:53,927 --> 01:09:55,206 I'm not saying nationalize the banks. 1392 01:09:55,207 --> 01:09:56,438 I'm saying isolate the ones 1393 01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:58,440 that are really in trouble and make an investment. 1394 01:09:58,441 --> 01:09:59,841 It's unamerican. 1395 01:09:59,842 --> 01:10:01,809 It's... it's sure unrepublican. 1396 01:10:01,810 --> 01:10:04,311 You make the government a stockholder... 1397 01:10:04,312 --> 01:10:06,113 what, do we tell them 1398 01:10:06,114 --> 01:10:08,716 how to manage themselves, what to buy and sell? 1399 01:10:08,717 --> 01:10:10,558 Run them like the post Office? 1400 01:10:10,559 --> 01:10:11,751 'Cause that works like a dream. 1401 01:10:11,752 --> 01:10:13,251 We make it temporary. 1402 01:10:13,252 --> 01:10:15,819 We make ourselves nonvoting stockholders. 1403 01:10:15,820 --> 01:10:18,888 You can't just hand the banks massive piles of cash. 1404 01:10:18,889 --> 01:10:20,756 Nobody's gonna go for it. 1405 01:10:20,757 --> 01:10:22,557 To the Republican's it's nationalization. 1406 01:10:22,558 --> 01:10:24,358 To the Democrats it's a bailout. 1407 01:10:24,359 --> 01:10:26,426 And the banks are gonna go ballistic. 1408 01:10:26,427 --> 01:10:29,262 Sorry, Dan, not gonna happen. 1409 01:10:29,263 --> 01:10:31,229 Kudos for out-of-the-box thinking. 1410 01:10:31,230 --> 01:10:33,964 Neel, if we go with your plan to buy the assets, 1411 01:10:33,965 --> 01:10:36,298 how much is it gonna cost? 1412 01:10:36,299 --> 01:10:37,699 It won't work. 1413 01:10:37,700 --> 01:10:41,135 Look, the plan is three pages long, totally vague. 1414 01:10:41,136 --> 01:10:43,069 If buying the assets doesn't work, 1415 01:10:43,070 --> 01:10:45,038 we'll nationalize the banks for you, okay? 1416 01:10:45,039 --> 01:10:46,506 How much? 1417 01:10:46,507 --> 01:10:49,775 To be safe, maybe a trillion. 1418 01:10:49,776 --> 01:10:53,110 The Congress will never do a trillion... never. 1419 01:10:53,111 --> 01:10:56,747 Well, there's $11 trillion in residential mortgages. 1420 01:10:56,748 --> 01:10:59,282 There's $3 trillion in commercial mortgages. 1421 01:10:59,283 --> 01:11:01,984 That's $14 trillion, right? 1422 01:11:01,985 --> 01:11:04,953 You gotta figure about 5% default rate. 1423 01:11:04,954 --> 01:11:07,788 5% of $14 trillion 1424 01:11:07,789 --> 01:11:12,207 is $700 billion. 1425 01:11:14,761 --> 01:11:17,812 It's better than a trillion. 1426 01:11:20,464 --> 01:11:22,397 The only way to get this done 1427 01:11:22,398 --> 01:11:24,432 is to just scare them shitless. 1428 01:11:24,433 --> 01:11:28,216 That should be easy. I'm scared shitless myself. 1429 01:11:39,941 --> 01:11:43,043 Troubled Asset Relief Program? 1430 01:11:43,044 --> 01:11:44,744 T.A.R.P. We're calling it. 1431 01:11:44,745 --> 01:11:47,245 This is your draft of the bill? 1432 01:11:47,246 --> 01:11:50,731 Subject to revision certainly. 1433 01:11:52,249 --> 01:11:54,283 Well, I've only got three pages here. 1434 01:11:54,284 --> 01:11:55,784 Am I missing something? 1435 01:11:55,785 --> 01:11:57,169 No. 1436 01:11:58,987 --> 01:12:02,321 You're just looking for a big blank check in a hurry. 1437 01:12:02,322 --> 01:12:05,824 It's all for the banks. You don't want a penny 1438 01:12:05,825 --> 01:12:08,292 for the average Joe that's about to lose his house? 1439 01:12:08,293 --> 01:12:10,395 There's not a scrap of oversight built into this... 1440 01:12:10,396 --> 01:12:12,897 not for the banks or for you for that matter. 1441 01:12:12,898 --> 01:12:14,899 You want us to simply hand over 1442 01:12:14,900 --> 01:12:18,135 $700 billion and trust you? 1443 01:12:18,136 --> 01:12:20,937 How is it possible you didn't see this coming? 1444 01:12:20,938 --> 01:12:23,039 If you want to rewind the tape, we can do that. 1445 01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:26,375 But right now the one thing we don't have is time. 1446 01:12:26,376 --> 01:12:29,044 We need an announcement tonight to calm the market. 1447 01:12:29,045 --> 01:12:31,330 We need legislation next week. 1448 01:12:34,451 --> 01:12:39,322 I spent my entire academic career 1449 01:12:39,323 --> 01:12:42,642 studying the Great Depression. 1450 01:12:44,095 --> 01:12:46,329 The Depression may have started 1451 01:12:46,330 --> 01:12:48,698 because of a stock market crash, 1452 01:12:48,699 --> 01:12:51,969 but what hit the general economy 1453 01:12:51,970 --> 01:12:53,904 was a disruption of credit... 1454 01:12:53,905 --> 01:12:55,973 average citizens unable to borrow money 1455 01:12:55,974 --> 01:12:58,208 to do anything... to buy a home, 1456 01:12:58,209 --> 01:13:02,479 start a business, stock their shelves. 1457 01:13:02,480 --> 01:13:06,082 Credit has the ability to build a modern economy, 1458 01:13:06,083 --> 01:13:08,452 but lack of credit has the power to destroy it, 1459 01:13:08,453 --> 01:13:11,038 swiftly and absolutely. 1460 01:13:12,724 --> 01:13:15,661 If we do not act boldly and immediately, 1461 01:13:15,662 --> 01:13:18,798 we will replay the Depression of the 1930s, 1462 01:13:18,799 --> 01:13:22,269 only this time it will be 1463 01:13:22,270 --> 01:13:25,223 far far worse. 1464 01:13:26,175 --> 01:13:28,177 We don't do this now... 1465 01:13:28,178 --> 01:13:31,898 we won't have an economy on Monday. 1466 01:13:39,795 --> 01:13:41,646 Geithner. 1467 01:13:46,271 --> 01:13:48,206 We took the proposal down to Congress. 1468 01:13:48,207 --> 01:13:49,441 Are they gonna go for it? 1469 01:13:49,442 --> 01:13:51,243 They didn't like the fact that it was short. 1470 01:13:51,244 --> 01:13:53,979 I thought concise was a plus. They thought it was flimsy 1471 01:13:53,980 --> 01:13:56,448 or arrogant or something. 1472 01:13:56,449 --> 01:13:59,384 I don't know what they think. They couldn't get past it. 1473 01:13:59,385 --> 01:14:01,820 The market's in a death spiral. They're gonna sink the bill 1474 01:14:01,821 --> 01:14:03,622 because the proposal is too fucking short? 1475 01:14:03,623 --> 01:14:07,192 They're working on it. They're gonna make it longer, 1476 01:14:07,193 --> 01:14:09,394 among other things. 1477 01:14:09,395 --> 01:14:11,764 Look, 1478 01:14:11,765 --> 01:14:13,849 just tell me you got something. 1479 01:14:16,203 --> 01:14:19,606 No. No, we're nowhere. 1480 01:14:19,607 --> 01:14:21,207 Who's left for Morgan Stanley? 1481 01:14:21,208 --> 01:14:25,361 China Investment Corporation. 1482 01:14:26,380 --> 01:14:28,680 Mae Mitsubishi. 1483 01:14:28,681 --> 01:14:31,317 No, the Japanese will never do this deal. 1484 01:14:31,318 --> 01:14:32,919 How about Goldman? 1485 01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:35,823 Goldman's looking at Wachovia, but they're so fucked, 1486 01:14:35,824 --> 01:14:37,975 even John Mack turned up his nose. 1487 01:14:40,596 --> 01:14:42,631 You gotta get that bill passed. 1488 01:14:42,632 --> 01:14:43,899 I'm pushing. 1489 01:14:43,900 --> 01:14:45,901 Well, push harder, 1490 01:14:45,902 --> 01:14:48,554 please. 1491 01:14:49,740 --> 01:14:53,192 This isn't working, Hank. 1492 01:15:06,791 --> 01:15:08,993 Hank? 1493 01:15:08,994 --> 01:15:11,446 Could you excuse me a moment? 1494 01:15:32,556 --> 01:15:34,625 Oh my God. 1495 01:15:34,626 --> 01:15:37,395 GAO, GAO, 1496 01:15:37,396 --> 01:15:40,732 I am so sorry about this. There's nothing we can do. 1497 01:15:40,733 --> 01:15:42,734 It's New York, you know. We're lucky 1498 01:15:42,735 --> 01:15:45,037 we can still buy a beer at Yankee Stadium. 1499 01:15:45,038 --> 01:15:47,807 Don't worry about it. I should quit anyway. 1500 01:15:47,808 --> 01:15:50,361 When you're ready, we'll be inside. 1501 01:15:53,850 --> 01:15:55,650 Is there any movement there? 1502 01:15:55,651 --> 01:15:57,887 They made an extremely low opening offer. 1503 01:15:57,888 --> 01:16:00,225 I pretended I didn't hear it. 1504 01:16:00,226 --> 01:16:02,261 The markets can't open Monday 1505 01:16:02,262 --> 01:16:04,697 without a resolution on Morgan Stanley. 1506 01:16:04,698 --> 01:16:07,200 We really need you to do a deal. 1507 01:16:07,201 --> 01:16:09,568 - You need to call Jamie. - I called Jamie. 1508 01:16:09,569 --> 01:16:11,802 He doesn't want us. There's too much overlap. 1509 01:16:11,803 --> 01:16:13,203 We've spoken to him. He'll do it. 1510 01:16:13,204 --> 01:16:15,906 For what, a dollar? Why would I do that? 1511 01:16:15,907 --> 01:16:17,574 I got China Investment 1512 01:16:17,575 --> 01:16:19,343 and Mitsubishi kicking my tires. 1513 01:16:19,344 --> 01:16:22,913 I know those guys. They're not gonna close a deal in time. 1514 01:16:22,914 --> 01:16:26,116 We want you to call Jamie. 1515 01:16:26,117 --> 01:16:27,952 Let me ask you a question. 1516 01:16:27,953 --> 01:16:30,955 35,000 jobs just disappeared in this city 1517 01:16:30,956 --> 01:16:33,157 between A.I.G., Lehman and Bear. 1518 01:16:33,158 --> 01:16:34,659 We make a deal with Jamie... 1519 01:16:34,660 --> 01:16:37,729 he'll fire 20,000 Morgan Stanley employees. 1520 01:16:37,730 --> 01:16:39,897 You think that's good public policy? 1521 01:16:39,898 --> 01:16:43,367 John, we are looking at the whole system here. 1522 01:16:43,368 --> 01:16:45,343 The Chinese are leaving. 1523 01:16:45,344 --> 01:16:46,904 GAO found out we're also talking to Mitsubishi. 1524 01:16:46,905 --> 01:16:48,673 I gotta go. 1525 01:16:48,674 --> 01:16:52,243 All right, get me Kuroyanagi and a Japanese translator. 1526 01:16:52,244 --> 01:16:54,279 We're closing with Mitsubishi tonight. 1527 01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:56,915 Tim Geithner's calling again. 1528 01:16:56,916 --> 01:16:58,443 Cover your ears. 1529 01:16:58,444 --> 01:17:00,152 You tell Tim Geithner to fucking blow me. 1530 01:17:00,153 --> 01:17:02,470 I'm trying to save my company. 1531 01:17:04,823 --> 01:17:07,759 Put him on the schedule, but make sure it's after lunch, 1532 01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:10,863 because that way I can fit Maddle in beforehand. 1533 01:17:10,864 --> 01:17:13,867 Morgan just made a deal with Mitsubishi. 1534 01:17:13,868 --> 01:17:15,869 So we're the only bank 1535 01:17:15,870 --> 01:17:18,205 with our dick still in the wind. 1536 01:17:18,206 --> 01:17:21,559 I'm calling Buffett again. 1537 01:17:26,083 --> 01:17:28,485 Grandpa, they keep calling. What if it's important? 1538 01:17:28,486 --> 01:17:31,071 They always think it's important. 1539 01:17:33,225 --> 01:17:36,911 All right, I'll make it fast. 1540 01:17:38,164 --> 01:17:40,199 Warren, thanks for calling back. How are you? 1541 01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:42,234 Just fine, Lloyd. 1542 01:17:42,235 --> 01:17:43,933 What can I do for you today? 1543 01:17:43,934 --> 01:17:46,633 I'd like to talk to you about taking a stake in Goldman Sachs. 1544 01:17:46,634 --> 01:17:49,301 What do you have in mind? Sounds expensive. 1545 01:17:49,302 --> 01:17:51,619 Maybe not. 1546 01:17:53,238 --> 01:17:55,806 You'd better have good news, 1547 01:17:55,807 --> 01:17:58,106 because I might be dead before we finish 1548 01:17:58,107 --> 01:18:00,307 haggling over TARP. 1549 01:18:00,308 --> 01:18:03,393 Buffett's throwing $5 billion into Goldman. 1550 01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:08,848 We're off the ledge. 1551 01:18:08,849 --> 01:18:10,917 For a moment. 1552 01:18:10,918 --> 01:18:13,553 The October surprise arrived a little early 1553 01:18:13,554 --> 01:18:16,323 with a game-changing jolt to the White House race. 1554 01:18:16,324 --> 01:18:18,291 Call it a master stroke 1555 01:18:18,292 --> 01:18:20,327 or a desperate Hail-Mary pass... 1556 01:18:20,328 --> 01:18:23,598 McCain announced he would suspend his campaign 1557 01:18:23,599 --> 01:18:26,735 and asked for this Friday's debate to be postponed 1558 01:18:26,736 --> 01:18:30,006 So he can return to Washington to focus on the economic crisis. 1559 01:18:30,007 --> 01:18:33,176 Now is our chance to come together, 1560 01:18:33,177 --> 01:18:35,912 to prove that Washington is once again 1561 01:18:35,913 --> 01:18:39,115 capable of leading this country. 1562 01:18:39,116 --> 01:18:42,018 Thank God he came back. 1563 01:18:42,019 --> 01:18:46,221 Like Daniel Day Lewis in "Last of the Mohicans," 1564 01:18:46,222 --> 01:18:49,007 he will find us! 1565 01:18:50,494 --> 01:18:52,761 - They're blowing it up. - What happened? 1566 01:18:52,762 --> 01:18:54,496 McCain wanted to swoop in and save the day, 1567 01:18:54,497 --> 01:18:56,131 but doesn't have any idea how to do it. 1568 01:18:56,132 --> 01:18:58,066 It's 100-page piece of legislation 1569 01:18:58,067 --> 01:19:00,135 we've been carefully negotiating for days. 1570 01:19:00,136 --> 01:19:02,337 What, did he think they were gonna sit around and spitball? 1571 01:19:02,338 --> 01:19:04,306 Yeah, when McCain got here 1572 01:19:04,307 --> 01:19:07,609 and found out that the deal was basically done, he went apeshit. 1573 01:19:07,610 --> 01:19:09,511 The Republicans fell in behind their guy. 1574 01:19:09,512 --> 01:19:11,246 They want to start all over again. 1575 01:19:11,247 --> 01:19:13,515 Democrats flipped out. Republicans dug in. 1576 01:19:13,516 --> 01:19:15,950 Clusterfuck. 1577 01:19:15,951 --> 01:19:19,288 - Where's Hank? - Still talking to McCain. 1578 01:19:19,289 --> 01:19:21,724 If you or anyone else does anything 1579 01:19:21,725 --> 01:19:25,261 that causes a depression, it is not gonna be on me. 1580 01:19:25,262 --> 01:19:27,888 I have a big mouth, Senator... 1581 01:19:27,889 --> 01:19:29,064 - a very big mouth. - Hold on... 1582 01:19:29,065 --> 01:19:31,533 He's not threatening 1583 01:19:31,534 --> 01:19:34,002 the Republican Presidential Nominee, is he? 1584 01:19:34,003 --> 01:19:36,504 - Something's got to be done. - No no. Excuse me, please. 1585 01:19:36,505 --> 01:19:38,506 Where are the Democrats? 1586 01:19:38,507 --> 01:19:40,341 They're right down this way. 1587 01:19:40,342 --> 01:19:41,909 - Is Nancy there? - Yes. Yes, she is. 1588 01:19:41,910 --> 01:19:43,361 Thank you. 1589 01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:53,004 Nancy... 1590 01:19:56,524 --> 01:19:58,826 Gee, Hank. 1591 01:19:58,827 --> 01:20:00,877 I didn't know you were Catholic. 1592 01:20:02,362 --> 01:20:04,497 I beg of you, don't blow this up. It was a bad meeting, 1593 01:20:04,498 --> 01:20:06,566 but we need to get together on this. 1594 01:20:06,567 --> 01:20:08,568 We're not the ones trying to blow it up. 1595 01:20:08,569 --> 01:20:11,189 I just ask you to stay with us. 1596 01:20:13,142 --> 01:20:16,345 Please. 1597 01:20:16,346 --> 01:20:18,180 The House began debating the rescue bill 1598 01:20:18,181 --> 01:20:19,682 at 9:27 this morning. 1599 01:20:19,683 --> 01:20:22,484 At about 1:28 pm Congress did finally act. 1600 01:20:22,485 --> 01:20:24,820 - This is a squeaker of a vote. - We are down to it right now. 1601 01:20:24,821 --> 01:20:27,089 It looks like the Democrats delivered their caucus 1602 01:20:27,090 --> 01:20:29,292 and the Republicans so far have not. 1603 01:20:29,293 --> 01:20:31,527 What do you think they could do to change the bill 1604 01:20:31,528 --> 01:20:33,429 to get a few Republican votes over to the other side? 1605 01:20:33,430 --> 01:20:35,231 If they hang Wall Street CEOs, 1606 01:20:35,232 --> 01:20:36,666 I think that would get a few more votes. 1607 01:20:36,667 --> 01:20:38,467 You know, I'm not... I'm not sure 1608 01:20:38,468 --> 01:20:40,369 what they could do exactly. 1609 01:20:40,370 --> 01:20:43,773 It is possible that the leadership of the Congress would conclude 1610 01:20:43,774 --> 01:20:46,777 that there's nothing that can get a majority of support 1611 01:20:46,778 --> 01:20:49,662 and see what Hank Paulson can do and the administration can do... 1612 01:20:51,448 --> 01:20:53,516 Leaders are negotiating right now 1613 01:20:53,517 --> 01:20:55,751 who'll risk their seats. And that's what I'm hearing. 1614 01:20:55,752 --> 01:20:58,308 Pelosi wouldn't have brought the bill to the floor if she 1615 01:20:58,309 --> 01:20:59,486 didn't think it would pass. 1616 01:20:59,487 --> 01:21:01,091 I don't know the answer to that, Charlie. I can't answer. 1617 01:21:01,092 --> 01:21:03,093 I'm just reading an email that's coming to me. 1618 01:21:03,094 --> 01:21:04,497 I think the bottom line 1619 01:21:04,498 --> 01:21:05,629 is they gotta go back to the drawing board. 1620 01:21:05,630 --> 01:21:07,330 Do they have the time though to do that? 1621 01:21:07,331 --> 01:21:09,063 Look at the Dow Jones Industrial Average. 1622 01:21:09,064 --> 01:21:10,998 Well, you know, you're gonna get a... 1623 01:21:10,999 --> 01:21:12,133 At this point we just 1624 01:21:12,134 --> 01:21:13,535 gotta hold on to the sides of the kayak 1625 01:21:13,536 --> 01:21:15,001 and ride through this because... 1626 01:21:15,002 --> 01:21:16,969 They didn't pass it. 1627 01:21:16,970 --> 01:21:19,004 - They did not pass it. - It just wasn't enough. 1628 01:21:19,005 --> 01:21:23,207 They're gonna end up being nine votes short, Bill. 1629 01:21:23,208 --> 01:21:24,908 Say that again, Steve. 1630 01:21:24,909 --> 01:21:26,842 I think they're gonna end up being nine votes... 1631 01:21:26,843 --> 01:21:29,110 if they get all six... five of the remaining votes, 1632 01:21:29,111 --> 01:21:33,013 they'll be 10 votes short now... if they get all five remaining. 1633 01:21:33,014 --> 01:21:34,747 The writing is on the wall there. 1634 01:21:34,748 --> 01:21:36,915 And we're here down on the floor. 1635 01:21:36,916 --> 01:21:39,400 Traders have been standing around. We're all here in knots. 1636 01:21:43,691 --> 01:21:47,196 The networks are waiting for you in the press room. 1637 01:21:47,197 --> 01:21:50,349 I can't even... 1638 01:22:02,114 --> 01:22:04,148 We have to go back again. 1639 01:22:04,149 --> 01:22:06,768 They don't get to say no on this. 1640 01:22:07,519 --> 01:22:09,187 Okay. 1641 01:22:09,188 --> 01:22:10,356 The White House wants a meeting. 1642 01:22:10,357 --> 01:22:12,358 Good. We'll come up with a new strategy. 1643 01:22:12,359 --> 01:22:14,427 The White House has to push harder on the Hill. 1644 01:22:14,428 --> 01:22:17,296 Meanwhile we need to keep working on what we do with the money. 1645 01:22:17,297 --> 01:22:18,798 Let's act like this is gonna work. 1646 01:22:18,799 --> 01:22:20,632 In that case, let's talk about cash injections. 1647 01:22:20,633 --> 01:22:21,869 Here we go again. 1648 01:22:21,870 --> 01:22:23,201 We can't nationalize the banks. 1649 01:22:23,202 --> 01:22:24,298 It's not nationali... 1650 01:22:24,299 --> 01:22:25,869 That's how Japan got itself a decade-long recession. 1651 01:22:25,870 --> 01:22:28,371 Is that where we want to go? 1652 01:22:28,372 --> 01:22:30,573 What else do we have? 1653 01:22:30,574 --> 01:22:32,132 Cash-for-trash. 1654 01:22:32,133 --> 01:22:34,183 Buying toxic assets is still our go-to move. 1655 01:22:34,811 --> 01:22:38,280 All right. Find a way to simplify it. 1656 01:22:38,281 --> 01:22:41,184 Dan, work something up. 1657 01:22:41,185 --> 01:22:44,438 For discussion purposes, let's see what it would look like. 1658 01:22:55,201 --> 01:22:58,003 For those who supported the $700 billion Wall Street bailout, 1659 01:22:58,004 --> 01:23:00,239 it was a surprising and stunning failure 1660 01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:02,574 when the House of Representatives voted to reject it. 1661 01:23:02,575 --> 01:23:05,043 It's a stinging defeat for President Bush 1662 01:23:05,044 --> 01:23:07,781 delivered at the hands of his fellow Republicans. 1663 01:23:07,782 --> 01:23:11,251 We put forth a plan that was big 1664 01:23:11,252 --> 01:23:13,019 because we've got a big problem. 1665 01:23:13,020 --> 01:23:16,957 The reality is that we're in an urgent situation. 1666 01:23:16,958 --> 01:23:20,227 and the consequences will grow worse each day 1667 01:23:20,228 --> 01:23:21,695 if we do not act. 1668 01:23:21,696 --> 01:23:23,196 I know. I keep telling... 1669 01:23:23,197 --> 01:23:24,698 draft of the new bill. 1670 01:23:24,699 --> 01:23:26,333 Are they having any luck with it? 1671 01:23:26,334 --> 01:23:28,903 The White House thinks they got a better shot of pushing it 1672 01:23:28,904 --> 01:23:31,506 through the Senate side first. Hopefully they're right. 1673 01:23:31,507 --> 01:23:33,474 They asked us to back off and let them handle it. 1674 01:23:33,475 --> 01:23:36,529 So I'm... I'm... I'm trying to back off. 1675 01:23:41,418 --> 01:23:44,287 Buying toxic assets isn't gonna work. 1676 01:23:44,288 --> 01:23:45,888 Why not? 1677 01:23:45,889 --> 01:23:47,455 It's too slow. 1678 01:23:47,456 --> 01:23:48,923 I think I've been saying that. 1679 01:23:48,924 --> 01:23:50,924 Well, we knew it was complicated, but how slow...? 1680 01:23:50,925 --> 01:23:52,426 Two months, maybe more. 1681 01:23:52,427 --> 01:23:53,834 Oh. 1682 01:23:53,835 --> 01:23:55,195 How is it possible we didn't know how...? 1683 01:23:55,196 --> 01:23:59,465 I didn't ask how long it would take, okay? 1684 01:23:59,466 --> 01:24:01,834 Can we move on? 1685 01:24:01,835 --> 01:24:05,638 So maybe we can talk about capital injections. 1686 01:24:05,639 --> 01:24:07,540 Dan, we really can't. 1687 01:24:07,541 --> 01:24:09,709 I think we're gonna have to. 1688 01:24:09,710 --> 01:24:12,245 Even if neel could expedite the process, 1689 01:24:12,246 --> 01:24:15,815 which seems unlikely, 1690 01:24:15,816 --> 01:24:17,817 the system is crumbling. 1691 01:24:17,818 --> 01:24:20,553 The banks need money now. 1692 01:24:20,554 --> 01:24:24,090 If cash injections are the most efficient way to stabilize them, 1693 01:24:24,091 --> 01:24:27,259 then we can't back off 1694 01:24:27,260 --> 01:24:29,261 because we're uncomfortable being the men 1695 01:24:29,262 --> 01:24:31,597 who nationalized a few American banks. 1696 01:24:31,598 --> 01:24:33,266 It's faster, that's for sure. 1697 01:24:33,267 --> 01:24:35,368 It will push us back off the precipice, yes, 1698 01:24:35,369 --> 01:24:38,972 unfreeze the system. 1699 01:24:38,973 --> 01:24:41,741 We give them some money 1700 01:24:41,742 --> 01:24:45,194 and they lend it out. 1701 01:24:48,916 --> 01:24:50,416 The motion is adopted. 1702 01:24:50,417 --> 01:24:52,785 After rejecting the Bush Administration's T.A.R.P. Plan 1703 01:24:52,786 --> 01:24:55,422 only four days ago, the House passed it today. 1704 01:24:55,423 --> 01:24:57,283 The big question now... 1705 01:24:57,284 --> 01:24:59,126 whether investors will take comfort in the news. 1706 01:24:59,127 --> 01:25:01,128 Current indicators show the stock market 1707 01:25:01,129 --> 01:25:04,315 is continuing its freefall. 1708 01:25:22,519 --> 01:25:23,885 Hello. 1709 01:25:23,886 --> 01:25:26,221 Warren, it's Hank. 1710 01:25:26,222 --> 01:25:29,324 I... I... I'm sorry. It's late. 1711 01:25:29,325 --> 01:25:31,661 Am I waking you? 1712 01:25:31,662 --> 01:25:34,130 No, not at all. 1713 01:25:34,131 --> 01:25:36,299 Can I pick your brain for a minute? 1714 01:25:36,300 --> 01:25:39,101 Sure. What's the problem? 1715 01:25:39,102 --> 01:25:42,272 How do you get a healthy bank... 1716 01:25:42,773 --> 01:25:45,791 to accept a capital injection? 1717 01:26:39,665 --> 01:26:42,167 I had to drag my ass all the way here from California. 1718 01:26:42,168 --> 01:26:44,102 They wouldn't even tell my why. 1719 01:26:44,103 --> 01:26:46,004 Nobody knows what this is about? 1720 01:26:46,005 --> 01:26:48,256 Nope. 1721 01:26:53,279 --> 01:26:54,980 Talk to Jamie? 1722 01:26:54,981 --> 01:26:57,250 Yep. He'll be fine. 1723 01:26:57,251 --> 01:26:59,119 Did you tell him what was coming? 1724 01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:01,255 Uh, did I tell him we're about to make him swallow 1725 01:27:01,256 --> 01:27:04,625 a capital injection he doesn't need? No. 1726 01:27:04,626 --> 01:27:07,328 I... I told him we need his help 1727 01:27:07,329 --> 01:27:10,916 and I asked him very politely not to fuck with us today. 1728 01:27:12,135 --> 01:27:13,619 He got it. 1729 01:27:14,771 --> 01:27:16,989 She's here. 1730 01:27:21,813 --> 01:27:23,814 Gentlemen. 1731 01:27:23,815 --> 01:27:25,584 We think this is gonna work? 1732 01:27:25,585 --> 01:27:28,103 Oh yeah. They're gonna love it. 1733 01:27:50,079 --> 01:27:52,047 We are of the view 1734 01:27:52,048 --> 01:27:54,050 that the United States needs 1735 01:27:54,051 --> 01:27:56,752 to take strong, decisive action 1736 01:27:56,753 --> 01:27:59,921 to arrest the stress 1737 01:27:59,922 --> 01:28:03,457 in our financial system. 1738 01:28:03,458 --> 01:28:06,526 Through our new T.A.R.P. Authority, 1739 01:28:06,527 --> 01:28:09,495 Treasury will purchase 1740 01:28:09,496 --> 01:28:11,764 preferred stock 1741 01:28:11,765 --> 01:28:14,849 in each of the banks represented in this room. 1742 01:28:17,035 --> 01:28:19,503 That stock will yield 5% the first five years, 1743 01:28:19,504 --> 01:28:22,472 9% after that. 1744 01:28:22,473 --> 01:28:25,174 We give you money; You lend it out. 1745 01:28:25,175 --> 01:28:28,610 It will unfreeze credit, stabilize the banks, 1746 01:28:28,611 --> 01:28:30,512 restore confidence. 1747 01:28:30,513 --> 01:28:32,613 Everyone will be better off 1748 01:28:32,614 --> 01:28:34,648 with more capital in the system. 1749 01:28:34,649 --> 01:28:36,716 And that is why 1750 01:28:36,717 --> 01:28:40,586 all nine of you 1751 01:28:40,587 --> 01:28:43,605 will participate in the program. 1752 01:28:46,926 --> 01:28:48,727 Some of us don't need any capital. 1753 01:28:48,728 --> 01:28:51,231 You all need capital. 1754 01:28:51,232 --> 01:28:53,800 You have no idea what the market's gonna look like in a year. 1755 01:28:53,801 --> 01:28:55,902 Neither do you. 1756 01:28:55,903 --> 01:28:57,903 I'm not one of you New York guys 1757 01:28:57,904 --> 01:28:59,872 with your fancy products. 1758 01:28:59,873 --> 01:29:02,775 Well, why am I in this room talking about bailing you out? 1759 01:29:02,776 --> 01:29:06,378 The stronger banks will serve as cover for the weaker banks. 1760 01:29:06,379 --> 01:29:09,014 If just some of you take it, the money is a signal 1761 01:29:09,015 --> 01:29:12,117 that a bank is too weak to survive. The market will devour it. 1762 01:29:12,118 --> 01:29:14,853 How much are we talking about? 1763 01:29:14,854 --> 01:29:17,940 $125 billion. 1764 01:29:19,927 --> 01:29:21,928 Bank of America... $15 billion. 1765 01:29:21,929 --> 01:29:24,264 Bank of New York Mellon... $3 billion. 1766 01:29:24,265 --> 01:29:27,800 Citigroup... $25 billion. 1767 01:29:27,801 --> 01:29:31,137 Goldman Sachs... $10 billion. 1768 01:29:31,138 --> 01:29:34,474 J.P. Morgan... $25 billion. 1769 01:29:34,475 --> 01:29:36,743 Merrill Lynch... $10 billion. 1770 01:29:36,744 --> 01:29:39,278 Morgan Stanley... $10 billion. 1771 01:29:39,279 --> 01:29:42,448 State Street... $2 billion. 1772 01:29:42,449 --> 01:29:44,934 Wells Fargo... $25 billion. 1773 01:29:50,658 --> 01:29:54,327 What happened to buying toxic assets? 1774 01:29:54,328 --> 01:29:55,929 Wasn't that the idea? 1775 01:29:55,930 --> 01:29:57,464 It's too slow. 1776 01:29:57,465 --> 01:29:59,566 You'll be dead before we sort it out. 1777 01:29:59,567 --> 01:30:03,002 So we're just handing the reins over to you? 1778 01:30:03,003 --> 01:30:04,670 The deal's actually pretty good. 1779 01:30:04,671 --> 01:30:07,340 You turn your nose up at this now, and we have to rescue you later... 1780 01:30:07,341 --> 01:30:09,141 the terms won't be nearly as attractive. 1781 01:30:09,142 --> 01:30:11,811 It's cheap capital. It's not the worst idea in the world. 1782 01:30:11,812 --> 01:30:13,779 Well, it is for those of us who already have capital. 1783 01:30:13,780 --> 01:30:15,916 We will be nonvoting shareholders. 1784 01:30:15,917 --> 01:30:18,568 This will be a temporary measure. 1785 01:30:20,855 --> 01:30:23,022 What if we decline to be involved? 1786 01:30:23,023 --> 01:30:26,593 The Chairman of the FDIC is sitting right there. 1787 01:30:26,594 --> 01:30:28,294 Tomorrow you'll find out 1788 01:30:28,295 --> 01:30:30,697 that you're not as well-capitalized as you think you are. 1789 01:30:30,698 --> 01:30:32,699 What kind of protections can you offer on changes 1790 01:30:32,700 --> 01:30:34,333 for compensation policy? 1791 01:30:34,334 --> 01:30:37,203 I mean, if the government is going to become a part-owner, 1792 01:30:37,204 --> 01:30:39,205 does that mean that the government 1793 01:30:39,206 --> 01:30:41,774 is going to dictate compensation? 1794 01:30:41,775 --> 01:30:44,011 Are you asking me about your bonus right now, John? 1795 01:30:44,012 --> 01:30:46,380 I'm running a company. 1796 01:30:46,381 --> 01:30:48,382 If the Fed tells me I can't offer 1797 01:30:48,383 --> 01:30:50,684 competitive pay for talent, 1798 01:30:50,685 --> 01:30:53,887 you're gonna launch the biggest brain drain this country's ever seen. 1799 01:30:53,888 --> 01:30:55,755 Is that the way you want to run the banks? 1800 01:30:55,756 --> 01:30:57,790 Until the money is repaid to the Treasury, 1801 01:30:57,791 --> 01:31:01,259 there will be some limitations on tax deductions and golden parachutes. 1802 01:31:01,260 --> 01:31:03,327 - Well, there you go. - I don't really understand 1803 01:31:03,328 --> 01:31:05,962 why there needs to be so much tension about this. 1804 01:31:05,963 --> 01:31:07,931 The country is facing 1805 01:31:07,932 --> 01:31:10,466 the worst economy since the Great Depression. 1806 01:31:10,467 --> 01:31:12,969 If the financial system collapses, 1807 01:31:12,970 --> 01:31:16,022 it will take every one of you down. 1808 01:31:24,079 --> 01:31:26,430 Give me the papers. 1809 01:31:33,653 --> 01:31:35,320 - You can't just sign it. - Oh no? 1810 01:31:35,321 --> 01:31:38,989 - Not without your board. - My board's on 24-hour notice. 1811 01:31:38,990 --> 01:31:41,259 I think they'll go along with it. 1812 01:31:41,260 --> 01:31:46,012 And if they don't, they'll fire me. 1813 01:31:51,304 --> 01:31:54,222 Anyone else? 1814 01:31:59,147 --> 01:32:01,565 Are they gonna do it? 1815 01:32:02,684 --> 01:32:04,352 They're calling their boards. 1816 01:32:04,353 --> 01:32:06,855 - That's a good sign. - If they do go along with this, 1817 01:32:06,856 --> 01:32:09,558 we should announce something alongside the injections... 1818 01:32:09,559 --> 01:32:12,629 maybe a program to buy up mortgages. 1819 01:32:12,630 --> 01:32:14,365 I'm not rushing out some half-assed plan 1820 01:32:14,366 --> 01:32:16,167 just to make it look like we're doing something. 1821 01:32:16,168 --> 01:32:18,604 Maybe we just beef up the restrictions 1822 01:32:18,605 --> 01:32:21,374 on how they spend the money... 1823 01:32:21,375 --> 01:32:23,210 something to take the stink off. 1824 01:32:23,211 --> 01:32:26,030 Put more restrictions on it... they won't take it. 1825 01:32:30,486 --> 01:32:32,972 One thing too many for today. 1826 01:32:34,993 --> 01:32:36,961 They almost bring down 1827 01:32:36,962 --> 01:32:38,797 the U.S. economy as we know it, 1828 01:32:38,798 --> 01:32:41,299 but we can't put restrictions on how they spend 1829 01:32:41,300 --> 01:32:44,536 the $125 billion we're giving them, 1830 01:32:44,537 --> 01:32:48,890 because they might not take it. 1831 01:33:20,273 --> 01:33:22,540 What's this? 1832 01:33:22,541 --> 01:33:26,377 That is, um... 1833 01:33:26,378 --> 01:33:28,913 A poison dart frog. 1834 01:33:28,914 --> 01:33:32,400 Wendy took it in Guyana. 1835 01:33:44,664 --> 01:33:47,416 Is this yours? 1836 01:33:52,005 --> 01:33:54,489 Al Capone's. 1837 01:33:56,442 --> 01:33:57,976 Eight out of the nine are in. 1838 01:33:57,977 --> 01:34:00,012 B of A is still waiting on its board, but... 1839 01:34:00,013 --> 01:34:02,548 it's gonna go through. 1840 01:34:02,549 --> 01:34:05,184 I'll call the Speaker's office. 1841 01:34:05,185 --> 01:34:08,221 And we're gonna get you on the phone with the President. 1842 01:34:08,222 --> 01:34:11,174 Okay. 1843 01:34:13,961 --> 01:34:16,796 Dow is up 900 points 1844 01:34:16,797 --> 01:34:19,315 just because we were meeting. 1845 01:34:21,468 --> 01:34:25,505 Well, that's good. 1846 01:34:25,506 --> 01:34:28,074 That's good. 1847 01:34:28,075 --> 01:34:30,809 It was the right thing. 1848 01:34:30,810 --> 01:34:33,747 Absolutely. 1849 01:34:33,748 --> 01:34:35,716 I was prepared for more blowback. 1850 01:34:35,717 --> 01:34:38,819 They didn't have a choice. 1851 01:34:38,820 --> 01:34:41,338 They knew that. 1852 01:34:42,657 --> 01:34:47,428 Well, I certainly hope that they... 1853 01:34:47,429 --> 01:34:48,846 What? 1854 01:34:50,565 --> 01:34:54,802 I hope they use the money the way we're asking them to. 1855 01:34:54,803 --> 01:34:59,890 They will... lend it out, won't they? 1856 01:35:00,976 --> 01:35:03,828 Of course they will. 1857 01:35:15,457 --> 01:35:17,208 Of course they will. 142586

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