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We have the photos anyway, right?
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Newton is a genius
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because one recognises
his photos at once.
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That's what distinguishes
a great photographer.
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Among a thousand photos
one immediately sees which is his.
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That's also the case with pictures
by Avedon, Bourdin and so on.
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But the pictures that I find it
easiest to recognize
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are Helmut's pictures.
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Except when we're talking about
a very good copy, which is rare.
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Really, there are no good copies
of a Newton. All Helmut does is good.
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The work of those who copy him
is not so good.
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It lacks what is essential.
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You can compare a black-and-white photo
of Helmut's with a sketch by Matisse.
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His viewpoint is never the camera's.
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If you look at the photos...
and I don't mean portraits,
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I mean when he photographs
real scenes...
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He never puts himself
in the position of the camera.
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He puts himself in the position
of someone observing the scene.
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It's very rare to see this viewpoint
in sophisticated photo-art.
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It's said in such art one must always
shoot face, gaze and body.
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From a certain "ideal" viewpoint.
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His gaze deviates from this "ideal".
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It's the gaze of a "voyeur", if you will.
But in any case of an observer.
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I have an older brother.
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He is ten years older than me.
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He always wanted to be a farmer,
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and I always wanted to be...
Already as a boy...
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I saw myself as a roving reporter
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with ten cameras around my neck,
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in a Burberry coat with turned-up collar
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and a slouch hat with a press card in it.
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Other kids dreamed
of being a train driver.
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I wanted to be the "roving reporter".
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It is not that I have difficulties
in finding the right location.
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I go as directly as a homing pigeon,
to any place where I think,
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I might be able to find a location.
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And then, I am like a sniffing dog.
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Many people describe me like that:
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Helmut is like a sniffing dog
that wants to pee.
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He walks around in circles
and suddenly finds a place
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to pee, or to take his photos.
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That's the way it is.
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Here is my Berlin notebook.
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I have many of them, I forget fast.
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For example:
what's on the first page? Paris.
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There's a bit about Paris.
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Rosemary, no hand. Phone number...
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A beautiful girl, I was told,
but with only one hand.
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Fantastic, never saw her.
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Here I have a hotel in Paris
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with a beautiful alcove
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and old iron beds.
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Very nice! But that's old,
I don't like such things anymore.
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Then Berlin again.
Here is the word "whipped cream".
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A very important word for me.
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"Von Stroheim" is there, as well.
I don't know why.
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"Monocle".
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What's this?
This is really funny.
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This is a...
"More depth"
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and a list of brothels,
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brothels in Berlin,
that a journalist gave me.
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Very useful, important.
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A bit down, yes,
but with that expression in your eyes.
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There's too much hair.
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Stop! Hold it!
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Stay like that!
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Black light is a typical thing for Berlin.
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You saw it in the pictures
we took here in the last 3 or 4 days.
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This light is typical for Berlin.
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Everything looks like in an etching.
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And I don't think...
Berlin is not good under the sun.
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If you look at the black lakes
and the black forests
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and those black clouds
hanging over them in summer,
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it's fantastic.
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The light is very permeating.
There is an abundance of light.
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It is not dark,
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the light quality is beautiful.
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Like many other elements of my work,
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swimming pools reflect certain memories.
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Somehow, all of my photos
are based on memories,
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especially during the past two decades.
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I've photographed many women
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who are good swimmers
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or good divers.
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There is something fascinating
about a person, a woman...
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It could be a man
but for me it's always women...
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who float in the air.
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Like a circus rider
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or a trapeze artist
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they float and fly through the air.
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You can only do this at a trapeze
or above the water.
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During summer holidays,
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my parents always went to health resorts.
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And so...
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They went to all the large hotels,
it was in fashion then.
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The hotels were very elegant
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and I spent a large part
of my youth there.
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There was always
something mysterious about them.
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In a hotel you were a stranger,
it was not home.
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You would sleep in beds where
many other people had slept before.
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You saw rooms that someone new
lived in every week or month.
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Somehow, that was very exciting for me.
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And I also felt there was
something erotic about it.
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- Will you join us for dinner?
- Sure.
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Listen. I am very concerned
about the girls.
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A big one, tall, with bust and all that.
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- Do you have one?
- Of course,
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it is all set, already organised.
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- What's your name?
- Michaela.
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Thanks for coming, very nice of you.
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- How tall are you?
- 1.74m.
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I'm doing
landscape photographs in Berlin.
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I was born and raised here.
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I'm very interested in this.
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I do it in the woods,
around the lakes and so on.
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How do you look in a swimsuit?
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It's hard to describe...
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- Do you have a bust?
- Yes.
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- A lot?
- Yes, I have quite a bust.
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Good. Your legs?
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Not that special.
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Somehow...
Well, I'm convinced
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there's a typical Berlin figure
I recognise on the street.
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A young girl,
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she's tall...
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I'm taking, of course,
about an "ideal type" here...
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I'm sure there's something
about the colour of the skin.
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You know, it is a bit bluish, very white.
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You can almost see
the blue veins through the skin.
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I'm sure it's because
the sun doesn't shine much here.
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Very nice legs.
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- What is your bust-size?
- 90.
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May I...
Would you mind taking off your jacket?
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- Do you not remember this photo?
- Which?
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Oh yes, I took this one.
What a coincidence.
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- What are you wearing underneath?
- A bra.
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Would you be embarrassed to...?
You don't have to.
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No, it's OK,
I'm not embarrassed.
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- Are you sure?
- Yes.
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Just provided the photo isn't...
I mean, as long as it's not...
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No, no, it's a fashion photo.
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Because I don't do nude photos.
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- I can show a bit of cleavage...
- No, it's an advertising photo.
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It's not my job to do nudes here.
Much as I'd like to!
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OK?
- OK. Oh, OK, I see.
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So, do you want to take something off?
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If you don't, that's OK.
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I'd really rather not.
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- Fine. Thanks, then. Good bye.
- Good bye.
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I'd have thought a man like him, the
"photographers' god", would be a snob.
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But he was very nice.
I was pleasantly surprised.
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At dinner he talked a lot.
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It was very interesting for me,
listening to him,
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because, after all, there aren't many
photographers as experienced as him.
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He told one story
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about how they hung a girl
from a helicopter
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and threw bits of meat into the sea
so that there were sharks all round her
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and there he was, snapping away.
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I couldn't help thinking
of the photo with the champagne
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being thrown in my face.
He often has to do stuff like that.
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Pretty nasty stuff, eh?
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Sure, there's not many photographers
who'd dare to do those things.
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But the girls who work with him
know what they're in for.
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That's what you're paid for.
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Me, for example, I had to wear
size 38 shoes, although I'm a 42.
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I mean, running about in those...
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That's even worse, in a way.
It hurts.
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That pretty girl in the jeans jacket
wants to ask a question.
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It was discussed yesterday whether
you're a photographer or an artist.
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Professor Honnef has already said it.
How would you describe yourself?
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I'll repeat what I often say in lectures,
and what I said yesterday:
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There are two dirty words in photography:
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"art" and "good taste".
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Are some of your pictures for sale?
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If so, for how much?
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Not through museums,
they do not sell pictures.
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They are, of course...
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I'd sell anything,
it just depends on the price.
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But...
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I do this for a living, it is my life.
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I work because I enjoy it
and I also enjoy making money.
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So how much would I have to pay
for one of your wall-sized ladies?
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The smallest size...
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I don't know... Let me tell you...
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The smallest one, sized 30 x 40cm,
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would be about $1,000.
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Could be more.
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- A genuine Newton: $1,000 or more.
- Yes, but there are lots of fakes.
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I mean, a lot of "stealing" is going on.
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Ladies and Gentlemen, Helmut Newton
is one of the best and most famous
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fashion photographers of our time.
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But "fashion photography" is a very
inadequate description of his work.
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Because there's no doubt he's
changed our whole view of the world...
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I'm sorry, I know I'm being very tough,
but it isn't always easy.
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When you do a photo with Helmut
you actually become a "Newton".
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You become something "graphic".
Hence my comparison to Matisse.
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He searches for a form, and you must
accept this or it just won't work.
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Me, if I do a photo
with a great photographer,
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I actually like it to end up looking
like a typical work by that photographer.
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It doesn't matter to me
whether it's pretty or ugly.
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I'm interested in how the photographer's
personality shows forth in the image.
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Fashion photographers often want
to be good portrait photographers too.
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Good fashion photographers want to feel
fashion, but for me these are the same.
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Helmut's portraits reflect an age
and fashion reflects the spirit of an age.
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That's why Helmut is, for me,
a great photographer.
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I won't try to stick him in one "drawer"
or the other. That would be silly.
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I have a dread of photographers who
come with assistants and lots of stuff.
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He comes sometimes with one assistant,
sometimes just by himself.
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He brings just one or two cameras
and works very quickly.
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Shots that take 6 hours to set up
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and turn out just OK in the end
are an annoyance for everyone.
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Very nice.
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Think of Marie Curie. She found
everything she needed in her kitchen
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before she worked in proper labs.
Helmut is a bit like her.
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He is very... I won't say an "artisan"
but he's very physical in his work.
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The spontaneity of his photos,
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which nonetheless look
very composed and considered,
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distinguishes his work from others'.
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I recognise his "eye"
even before I recognise the photo.
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Sometimes, he has a sort of violence.
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I find the work he does today
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very evident in its meaning
and yet at the same time secret.
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There's one photo I especially like
though I can't explain just why.
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Is it because of the photo?
Because there's me in it
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with the projection
of a photo Helmut took of me before?
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The photo in the photo
is like a mirror in a mirror.
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I like it because it's complicated.
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It was taken at my home.
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He's the only photographer
that I allow into my home.
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My private space is very important to me.
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But he had the right to that.
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This is the same shooting.
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That's a real "spur-of-the-moment" photo.
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I mean by that that it was shot
in the very last moment.
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It was a rush production
for the New York Times,
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for the fashion collection
of Yves Saint Laurent.
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We took the photo
very quickly in my car.
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People have to know each other very well
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to be able to pull off
a photo like that in 20 minutes.
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I like the combination of the skin,
the dress, and this deep black
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that hides everything
that must be hidden.
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In Helmut's photos the black
is always just where it needs to be.
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In this photo one is always
looking for an answer.
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One is always hoping
that the picture will give an answer
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to the question
that one is putting to it.
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Helmut's photos are "revealing", yes,
but they are also always mysterious.
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One always wants to know more
but they only give part of the answer.
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That's why women like him so much.
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Everyone asks us:
What do you do all day in Monte Carlo?
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We always say:
The day isn't long enough.
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I get up at 8 o'clock,
in summer breakfast on the terrace,
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I look through my post,
make some calls.
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At noon, we go to the Beach Hotel,
I like to swim there.
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We eat lunch there
and stay till about 4.
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I love the light here.
I don't like working in artificial light.
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01:20:51,848 --> 01:20:55,918
I like working in daylight.
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01:20:56,052 --> 01:20:59,989
The light here is fantastic.
And I have the sea as a background.
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It's no problem here
finding the background one needs.
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I'm 67 now.
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I couldn't live any longer
in a big city like New York or Paris.
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01:21:18,407 --> 01:21:23,312
That's why I move back and forth
between Monte Carlo and Los Angeles.
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01:21:23,446 --> 01:21:26,916
Hollywood is almost like here,
only a little bigger.
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01:21:27,116 --> 01:21:31,420
The palm-trees are taller there
and there are more people.
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01:21:31,888 --> 01:21:35,358
But the spirit of the place
is very similar.
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01:31:20,008 --> 01:31:22,411
Open a window! It smells disgusting!
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01:36:27,449 --> 01:36:30,786
I don't like to have too much equipment.
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I am not a pro who loves hardware.
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The less I have with me,
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the better for me.
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01:36:40,862 --> 01:36:43,064
It's all inside my head, in my eye.
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My lenses are mostly normal lenses,
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I'd say, 85 to 90 percent of them.
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It is faster and better for me
to work like that.
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I'm a professional voyeur.
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I have no interest at all
in the people I photograph,
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the girls, their private life
or their character.
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01:37:24,039 --> 01:37:28,009
I'm interested in the outside,
what me and my camera see.
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01:37:28,410 --> 01:37:31,379
People tell me
I don't photograph the soul.
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01:37:31,513 --> 01:37:34,149
What is that: photographing a soul?
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01:37:34,282 --> 01:37:36,551
I photograph a body, a face.
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01:37:37,152 --> 01:37:40,021
I'm interested in face, bust, legs.
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You see that in my photos,
and, hopefully, something more.
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But soul? I don't get it.
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