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Previously on pioneer one.
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We need an expert here, someone who knows
what they're talking about. And quietly.
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Will you help us out doctor?
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My name is Jane, here we are.
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- She's the best you got?
- Given the circumstances? Hell yes.
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Media? - They seem to think that
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we've got roswell part two in here.
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You've got yourself two weeks.
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Say I wanted to get off
the base for a couple hours.
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A little difficult with the quarantine.
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I'm not convinced the
Russians aren't hiding something.
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Maybe you should to do more research
before you put out a bogus cover story.
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We continue now with our special report
on the ongoing quarantine in calgary.
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One week out and there are
still more questions than answers.
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Many of Canada citizens are demanding that
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more information be
released to the public.
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Joining me now for the Canadian
perspective is Simon montag,
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blogger and political activist.
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Mr. Montag, you wrote a post on your blog
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that's been syndicated in the op-ed columns
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of several national and
international newspapers.
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Are you saying you don't
believe the official story
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about the downed satellite
from the former Soviet union?
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By all appearances, it seems there's
more going on here than we're being told.
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I don't know if it's not a satellite,
but things aren't adding up.
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We're being kept in the dark.
And it's almost certainly a result
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of Americans wanting to keep the secret.
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I'm not an expert on
satellites or radiation,
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but the scale of the quarantine seems
unwarranted given what we have been told.
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But... the point I'm trying to make is that
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it should be up to Canada to
decide, not the United States.
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For further perspective,
joining us now is David Collins,
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speaking to us from homeland
security secretary Eric mcclellan's office
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in Washington, DC.
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Mr. Collins is a senior advisor
to the secretary, is that correct?
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Yes, that's right, Deirdre.
Thanks for having me on.
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Thank you for taking the
time, I'm sure you're very busy.
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I'm going to just go ahead
and assume you disagree
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with most of what Mr. Montag has expressed.
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Yes Deirdre, I strongly disagree,
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strongly disagree.
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Of course Mr. Montag
is entitled to his opinion,
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but there's a difference between
an opinion and an informed opinion.
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- Well of course I'm sure that you...
- Mr. Montag, you'll get a chance to reply.
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There are radiation concerns,
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and the quarantine is a
precautionary measure.
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Perhaps over-cautious, but we'd
rather err on the side of public safety.
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And I'm sure your viewers would agree.
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Mr. Montag?
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I hear a lot of fear-mongering out there
about radiation and national emergencies,
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but it's diverting us from
the main issues here.
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Let me ask you, sir,
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why was the debris collected
at the inactive calgary base
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rather than the currently
active base in Edmonton,
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where the "satellite" crashed?
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It couldn't possibly be because its
closer proximity to the United States?
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Absolutely not. There are safety
and logistical considerations...
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The quarantine is a joke!
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Personnel have been repeatedly spotted
going in and out of the quarantine zone.
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I've read at least half a dozen
accounts that confirm that.
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Supplies need to be delivered
and waste removed from the site.
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Why are medical supplies
being delivered to the base?
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Sir, I can't... - Why
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are medical supplies
being delivered to the base?
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- I can't possibly comment on...
- Witnesses have seen
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deliveries from calgary general.
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And no one, no one can tell us why!
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Sir... - The station
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Montana quarantine lasted for 36 hours!
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Mr. Montag... - The only explanation
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for this quarantine
lasting as long as it has,
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is that we're trying to keep
secrets from getting out.
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Mr. Montag, please give
Mr. Collins a chance to speak.
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Thank you Deirdre.
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I'd caution you, Mr. Montag, on making
dangerous and baseless allegations.
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By Mr. Montag's own admission,
he's not an expert on these issues,
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but that doesn't stop him
from speaking as though he is.
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A week and a half ago we were
dealing with an emergency situation,
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the size and details of
which were yet to be known,
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and our men and women acted accordingly
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and properly and within
the bounds of the law.
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There was a request
made to our Montana office
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and our agents responded to it.
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The Canadian government
is behaving responsibly,
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the way it should when lives are at risk.
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- When america...
- To use this as an opportunity
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to stir up anti-American sentiment
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and sell more newspapers
or blogs or what-have-you
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is, quite frankly, inappropriate
and counterproductive.
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When things fall out of the sky, Mr. Montag
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they don't care about borders or
sovereignty. The danger is indiscriminate.
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And it is precisely because of
the relationship between Canada
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and the United States that
we were able to respond
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as quickly and effectively as we did.
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I'm afraid that's going to
have to be the last words
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for right now, so we can go to commercial
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but I do hope you both will stay
with us so that we can continue this
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spirited debate
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after the break.
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Pioneer one 1x04.
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You did good on that thing, but we're still
getting our asses kicked in the press.
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Yes we are. - When we're done here
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bang some heads together and let's
come up with some new talking points.
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These Internet assholes are amazing.
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Where's the...
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Ok, how long's he been in there?
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About 20 minutes. - Ah, wonderful.
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Mr. Ambassador.
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- Apologies for the wait.
- I am waiting for secretary Miller.
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He sent me.
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I do not know you. - Eric mcclellan.
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I'm one of secretary Miller's deputies.
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Deputies? I wish to deal
directly with secretary Miller.
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I've been made the
point man in this matter.
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My authority comes
directly from secretary Miller
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and the president of the United States.
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I'm the guy you want to talk to.
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Very well.
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So, Mr. Ambassador...
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What isn't your government telling us?
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What are we not telling you?
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Something fell out of the sky and
spread radiation over my country.
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We believe
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no, we know it was Soviet hardware.
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What can you tell us about that?
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Please, Mr. Secretary, you
speak to me like I am your enemy.
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The cold war is over.
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I seem to recall ten of your spies
turning up in New Jersey not too long ago.
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Or were we to assume they
just didn't get that memo?
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Mr. Mcclellan.
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As your president says,
let us cut bullshit, yes?
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Let's.
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We believe...
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No.
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We know that you are holding
one or more of our cosmonauts.
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I'm sorry, Mr. Ambassador,
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I may have misunderstood
your accent, did you say
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cosmonauts?
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Yes, that is what I have said
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and you understand me fine.
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Can we agree that the
story of the satellite was a lie?
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I wouldn't categorize it that way.
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Forgive me,
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sometimes my English fails me, but when you
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say something that is not the truth
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- you call it a lie, yes?
- It wasn't a lie.
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Do most satellites have
people inside of them?
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If you lost cosmonauts, why didn't
the Russian space agency contact us?
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Surely you know when you lose people.
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These cosmonauts were lost
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longtime ago.
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We insist they be
returned to us immediately.
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Mr. Ambassador, I don't understand.
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What were these cosmonauts
doing? Where did they come from?
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And why did they crash in my backyard?
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They have come
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from a far away place.
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And what far away place would that be?
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Mr. Ambassador.
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As your president says...
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No bullshit.
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Here we are, this little
blue one right here.
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But you already know what that looks
like, 'cause you've seen it from far away.
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Can you pick out home?
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Mars on the map?
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This one.
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She's made a real
connection with him, I think.
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He only talks to her.
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What's he saying now?
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He's not making much sense.
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I keep hearing one word though.
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Home.
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This has to happen faster.
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We're not getting anywhere.
Enough with the bedtime stories.
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I don't think this is the kind
of thing you can force, Tom.
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Are you alright?
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Are you alright?
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Fine.
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Tired.
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One more week.
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Did you see that?
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He couldn't even bring himself
to say it, it's so god damn absurd.
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How do they know we're holding a suspect?
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They don't.
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They don't know what we got.
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They think we've got multiple
guys. When we only have that one.
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What do you think he's holding back?
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They don't want us to think they're
not in control of their own military.
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They know as well as we do they've been
hemorrhaging hardware and uranium since 91.
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The thing that I don't understand is
why they're still giving us this Mars crap.
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He never actually said anything about Mars.
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Because he doesn't
want to sound like an idiot.
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But if that's the game we're playing...
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I can't believe I'm going to say this, but
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suppose this guy actually
did come back from Mars.
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How do we cover ourselves?
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Hypothetically?
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He might not technically
be a Russian citizen.
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He speaks.
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What do you mean?
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Well, if he came from
Mars... What country is that?
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He'd literally be from another planet.
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It was a Soviet spacecraft.
That's Soviet territory.
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But there is no Soviet union.
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Weren't Soviet citizens living in
Russia granted Russian citizenship?
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I'm sure there's some
technicality we can exploit.
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I mean, we don't even know
anything about his parents.
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It's true.
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So he's a non-person,
is that what we're saying?
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That works for now.
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Look into Russian naturalization
laws, but don't spend too much time on it.
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Yes sir.
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- I'll update Miller's office.
- Yeah, you do that.
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No, wait!
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Brief Jacobs first, then Miller.
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Jacobs?
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At the white house?
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I believe that's where he works, yes.
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We're gonna catch six kinds of hell
from Miller's people for going around them.
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But not from Miller
himself. I've got a hunch.
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Just do it yeah?
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Yes sir.
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Oh, and put in a call in to
Taylor and our friends up north.
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I want to know if that kid's
been saying anything yet.
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Thank you. - Don't. It's not very good.
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I'm sorry we haven't been able
to get you more time off the base,
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but we're under a lot of
media scrutiny right now.
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I understand.
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You don't seem to mind very much.
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I guess I'm enjoying the work.
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It's nice to feel like I'm making
a difference for somebody.
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You care about him.
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I do.
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What's going to happen to
him when the quarantine is over?
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That's part of why I wanted to
talk to you today. You've been doing
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great so far, he's rather
responding to you being there, but
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we're not moving fast enough.
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Fast enough?
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Is there anything you've
noticed, that's not in the transcripts
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anything?
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I'm not sure what you mean.
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I need workable information.
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There have been a few times
when I've spoken to him in English,
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and he responded like he understood me.
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He understands English?
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- I'm pretty sure, yeah.
- But he only speaks to you in Russian?
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Well, just because he understands
English doesn't mean he can speak it.
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Or he doesn't want to.
249
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Why wouldn't he want to?
250
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Depending on what he's been told,
he may think he's behind enemy lines.
251
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He may have been given
instructions not to speak.
252
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Or he's just scared.
253
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I'd rather hear that from him.
254
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Well, I don't know what else I can do.
255
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I need to be able to talk with him.
I need him to answer questions.
256
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I don't know if it's realistic right now.
257
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There must be some way to take advantage
of the relationship you have with him.
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I don't think I'm comfortable with that.
259
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The more information we
have, the better off he'll be.
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You mean the better
off you'll be, don't you?
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The better off we'll all be.
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I'm sorry. I just care
about him that's all.
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My job is about finding out the truth.
264
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And as long as you're in
this building, you work for me.
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I know.
266
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Good.
267
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See what you can get out of
him and we can all go home.
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He can't...
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Yeah?
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What? - Can I come in?
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Yeah.
272
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What you got for me? - Can I sit?
273
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Yeah.
274
00:14:06,178 --> 00:14:09,515
There's this wacko on the
outside making a lot of noise, a Dr.
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Richard hadfield, he's some
kind of conspiracy nutcase.
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And?
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I think he's called up
every reporter I can
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think of trying to get
someone's attention.
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He thinks we've got the Andromeda strain
in here. I think he has a book coming out.
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Is anybody taking him seriously? - No...
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- Just thought you'd get a kick out of it.
- You had to close the door to tell me?
282
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No.
283
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Can you tell me why
are you really here then?
284
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This is a rather uncomfortable situation
for me, but I have to ask something.
285
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- What?
- Is it possible that you and Benton
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- could have been seen leaving the base?
- Why?
287
00:14:37,418 --> 00:14:39,771
There's a report floating around
that a witness saw two men,
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matching your descriptions in a
car tailing one of the supply trucks.
289
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- When was this?
- I don't know, a few days ago.
290
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Is it true?
291
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Some urgent matter required my
attention. That's all you need to know.
292
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When something like this comes up I
do need to know or I can't do my job.
293
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We have to at least appear like
we're taking this quarantine seriously.
294
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Noted. Handle it. - I am.
295
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What? There something else?
296
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We got a problem.
297
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This program has received
exclusive information
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that one of the people brought
into the quarantine zone is this man:
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Dr. Zachary Walzer
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an adjunct professor at
the university of Washington
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and an outspoken advocate
for human Mars exploration.
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Joining us in studio is Dr. Avery frank
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a former colleague of Dr. Walzer's,
to discuss what this may mean.
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- Thank you for taking the time, doctor.
- Glad to be here.
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Can you tell us a little bit about
your relationship with Dr. Walzer,
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and why a man with his credentials
might have been brought in to consult
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in this investigation?
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Sure. I worked with Zachary
for about four years in the 80s
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when we were both at jpl...
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The jet propulsion laboratory in Pasadena?
311
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Yes, just outside of
Pasadena in California.
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We were working on the
development of a new propulsion system
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to be used in unmanned probes
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eventually, with manned spacecraft that
would be used to explore the solar system.
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Dr. Walzer has a background
in nuclear engineering,
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and I imagine that's why
he's involved in this situation.
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I'd like to talk a little bit about
his advocacy for Mars exploration.
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Is it fair to say that he has achieved
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notoriety within the scientific
community for his work on the subject?
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Yes, definitely. From time to
time I've heard him referred to as
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reverently of course, "the man from Mars".
322
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Do you feel that his Mars work has
overshadowed his other accomplishments?
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00:16:28,570 --> 00:16:30,423
I wouldn't say overshadowed, but
324
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certainly that's the direction he's
moved in since I knew him, sure.
325
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But he's known as a Mars expert.
326
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The Mars expert.
327
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I'm sure some of his colleagues
would take issue with that, but.
328
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It's strange that
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he would be the nuclear engineer
called in to consult in this matter
330
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do you agree?
331
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I can't say.
332
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Surely there are other scientists,
333
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perhaps even some on the payroll
of the United States government,
334
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who are just as qualified
in nuclear engineering?
335
00:16:56,473 --> 00:16:57,599
I would think so.
336
00:16:57,808 --> 00:17:00,954
So it stand to reason
that it's his Mars expertise
337
00:17:01,020 --> 00:17:02,938
that distinguished him from the rest?
338
00:17:03,313 --> 00:17:06,817
I'm not sure I understand
where you're going with this...
339
00:17:06,984 --> 00:17:08,920
What I'm trying to get at here is
340
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why would a Mars expert
341
00:17:10,529 --> 00:17:14,450
be brought in to investigate the
crash of a Soviet satellite which,
342
00:17:14,575 --> 00:17:17,411
so as far as we've been told,
has nothing to do with Mars?
343
00:17:19,997 --> 00:17:21,957
I'm not in a position to speculate.
344
00:17:34,595 --> 00:17:37,532
The outer space treaty of 1967:
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"No celestial body may be
subject to national appropriation
346
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by claim of sovereignty
347
00:17:43,062 --> 00:17:45,522
by means of use or occupation".
348
00:17:45,773 --> 00:17:48,042
In other words, even if
the Soviets had been there,
349
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they couldn't claim it as their territory.
350
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The rescue agreement, elaborating on
the provisions of article 5 of said treaty:
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"Any state that is a party to
the agreement must provide
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all possible assistance to rescue
the personnel of a spacecraft
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who have landed within
that state's territory.
354
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The state where it lands is required
upon request of the launching authority
355
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to recover the object and return it". This
is all starting to make sense to me now.
356
00:18:14,093 --> 00:18:16,487
If they say they've lost a
spacecraft and a cosmonaut,
357
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we're bound by international
law to turn'em over.
358
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So if we maintain our position that
we're holding a terror suspect and his
359
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weapon of mass destruction,
we should be okay.
360
00:18:27,231 --> 00:18:29,709
I still don't understand
this Mars stuff though.
361
00:18:29,775 --> 00:18:32,736
Couldn't they come up with
something more believable?
362
00:18:33,278 --> 00:18:34,488
Turn the page.
363
00:18:37,908 --> 00:18:39,343
The registration convention:
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"The convention requires that
every nation furnish notice and details
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regarding every orbiting space object".
366
00:18:45,624 --> 00:18:48,669
So by saying it's from Mars,
we can't catch them on that.
367
00:18:49,086 --> 00:18:50,170
Unbelievable.
368
00:18:51,463 --> 00:18:53,232
What about the citizenship thing?
369
00:18:53,298 --> 00:18:56,510
Well, the parents' citizenship
would have turned over in '91,
370
00:18:56,677 --> 00:18:58,554
and he'd have citizenship by birth.
371
00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:00,990
We don't know anything
for sure about the parents,
372
00:19:01,056 --> 00:19:02,599
so I think we're okay.
373
00:19:03,976 --> 00:19:06,145
So where do you think we are on this?
374
00:19:07,396 --> 00:19:08,939
I think it's pretty thin,
375
00:19:09,439 --> 00:19:12,239
but I think we have enough cover
if that's the story they're giving us.
376
00:19:12,651 --> 00:19:15,779
Maybe. Assuming I can
keep a straight face in there.
377
00:19:16,029 --> 00:19:17,131
Yes sir. - No, really.
378
00:19:17,197 --> 00:19:19,992
I don't want anymore talk
about Mars in this office.
379
00:19:20,117 --> 00:19:21,160
Come in.
380
00:19:22,244 --> 00:19:24,621
- He's waiting for you sir.
- I'll be right there.
381
00:19:25,330 --> 00:19:27,141
- Good job on this, by the way.
- Thank you sir.
382
00:19:27,207 --> 00:19:29,251
Where did you get all this? - Wikipedia.
383
00:19:31,962 --> 00:19:34,715
Okay, next time I'd rather
you make something up.
384
00:19:35,382 --> 00:19:36,400
Yes, Mr. Secretary.
385
00:19:36,466 --> 00:19:39,487
And the Canadian foreign secretary is
still trying to get a few minutes with you.
386
00:19:39,553 --> 00:19:41,638
One pain in the ass at a time...
387
00:19:43,348 --> 00:19:44,617
I assure you, Mr. Ambassador,
388
00:19:44,683 --> 00:19:49,229
we are not holding any citizen of
Russian or the former Soviet governments.
389
00:19:49,938 --> 00:19:53,084
And this is the official position
of the United States government?
390
00:19:53,150 --> 00:19:54,151
It is.
391
00:19:54,318 --> 00:19:56,361
But you are holding someone, yes?
392
00:19:56,528 --> 00:19:59,882
This is an investigation
of a possible terrorist act.
393
00:19:59,948 --> 00:20:03,202
We are holding a suspect, but
considering him an enemy combatant.
394
00:20:03,911 --> 00:20:04,995
Unless
395
00:20:05,412 --> 00:20:07,140
you're telling me he's a...
396
00:20:07,206 --> 00:20:08,457
Russian citizen?
397
00:20:11,168 --> 00:20:12,461
I am not a fool.
398
00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,630
Do not talk to me like one.
399
00:20:14,963 --> 00:20:16,482
If you have caught a terrorist,
400
00:20:16,548 --> 00:20:19,986
then why is the foremost expert
on the subject of space travel
401
00:20:20,052 --> 00:20:22,804
to the planet Mars assisting
in your investigation?
402
00:20:23,931 --> 00:20:26,350
I'm afraid I don't
understand what you mean.
403
00:20:26,475 --> 00:20:27,410
No?
404
00:20:27,476 --> 00:20:30,562
We see same news you do.
CNN makes it even to Moscow.
405
00:20:30,896 --> 00:20:33,082
Don't believe everything
you see on television.
406
00:20:33,148 --> 00:20:34,524
Then you deny this?
407
00:20:37,778 --> 00:20:39,446
We'll have to get back to you on that.
408
00:20:40,572 --> 00:20:43,301
You brought a civilian in
on this without telling me?
409
00:20:43,367 --> 00:20:45,219
I believe I do have that authority.
410
00:20:45,285 --> 00:20:48,330
But I told you not to pursue
this particular line of inquiry.
411
00:20:48,622 --> 00:20:51,250
At the time I thought it was
prudent not to discount anything.
412
00:20:51,458 --> 00:20:54,795
Well your prudence just made me look
like a fool with the Russian ambassador.
413
00:20:55,128 --> 00:20:56,689
Did somebody leak this from your end?
414
00:20:56,755 --> 00:20:58,858
We're looking into it. What
are the Russians saying?
415
00:20:58,924 --> 00:21:01,804
They're giving us the same story,
but I don't think even they believe it.
416
00:21:02,135 --> 00:21:03,595
Why would they do that?
417
00:21:04,012 --> 00:21:05,764
They have obviously complicity in this.
418
00:21:06,473 --> 00:21:08,743
Either they were involved
or they know who was.
419
00:21:08,809 --> 00:21:11,812
The Mars story is their
cover and it's starting to stick
420
00:21:12,104 --> 00:21:13,480
as hard as it is to believe.
421
00:21:14,231 --> 00:21:16,066
The bigger the lie, as they say.
422
00:21:16,566 --> 00:21:19,361
So you're not prepared to
consider the Mars story at all?
423
00:21:20,153 --> 00:21:22,990
I think I've made myself very clear.
424
00:21:26,285 --> 00:21:29,579
- Haven't we been through this once before?
- I have to ask.
425
00:21:29,913 --> 00:21:33,583
I have no idea how anybody knows
that I'm here. What does it matter?
426
00:21:34,626 --> 00:21:37,647
With your background, well, people
are starting to put the pieces together.
427
00:21:37,713 --> 00:21:40,465
And that's a bad thing? It's
going to get out sooner or later.
428
00:21:40,799 --> 00:21:42,652
If we can't control the flow of information
429
00:21:42,718 --> 00:21:45,595
it may affect our diplomatic
efforts with the Russians.
430
00:21:46,096 --> 00:21:48,407
We're talking to the Russians?
What are they saying?
431
00:21:48,473 --> 00:21:49,533
Can't get into details.
432
00:21:49,599 --> 00:21:53,437
Why does everything have to be
such a big secret with you people?
433
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,399
If we could just share what we
know we'd be so much further along.
434
00:21:57,566 --> 00:21:59,901
Do you even have an idea how long
it's been since I've used a microscope?
435
00:21:59,943 --> 00:22:01,462
I barely know what I'm doing here!
436
00:22:01,528 --> 00:22:03,196
What are you doing here exactly?
437
00:22:03,322 --> 00:22:06,425
This is water from the recycling
system in Yuri's capsule.
438
00:22:06,491 --> 00:22:08,928
I'm checking to see if it
contains any trace elements
439
00:22:08,994 --> 00:22:11,973
that might suggest it came
from martian permafrost or
440
00:22:12,039 --> 00:22:13,623
somewhere else on the surface.
441
00:22:13,749 --> 00:22:15,351
A crew of three or more
442
00:22:15,417 --> 00:22:19,063
couldn't have survived for so long on the
surface without finding a new water source.
443
00:22:19,129 --> 00:22:20,255
How's it going?
444
00:22:20,547 --> 00:22:23,800
Well considering it's been about a
hundred years since I took a chemistry lab,
445
00:22:23,925 --> 00:22:25,135
not that good.
446
00:22:25,344 --> 00:22:28,155
If I could just consult with
some of my colleagues,
447
00:22:28,221 --> 00:22:32,017
can't do it doctor. I'm in enough trouble
for bringing you here in the first place.
448
00:22:32,309 --> 00:22:35,312
The quarantine is the only reason
you're not on a plane back home.
449
00:22:35,937 --> 00:22:37,981
Well it's nice to know I'm welcome.
450
00:22:40,067 --> 00:22:42,027
Anything? - No...
451
00:22:42,277 --> 00:22:44,297
All I can tell you for
sure is that it wasn't me.
452
00:22:44,363 --> 00:22:47,157
I just talked to Walzer and
he says he hasn't told anybody.
453
00:22:47,449 --> 00:22:50,094
Could one of the protestors have recognized
him when we first brought him in?
454
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,205
I doubt it. People didn't start showing
up until after the press conference.
455
00:22:53,747 --> 00:22:56,249
And even if he was seen, do
you think he'd be recognized?
456
00:22:56,666 --> 00:22:58,043
No, probably not.
457
00:22:58,460 --> 00:23:01,129
I just got off the phone with
mcclellan and he's not happy.
458
00:23:01,463 --> 00:23:03,441
Should we have Walzer make
a statement or something?
459
00:23:03,507 --> 00:23:05,860
No, it'd look like we got
spooked if we respond directly.
460
00:23:05,926 --> 00:23:07,177
Any other ideas?
461
00:23:08,095 --> 00:23:09,513
We could shine a light on it.
462
00:23:09,596 --> 00:23:10,722
You have something in mind?
463
00:23:10,972 --> 00:23:12,974
Maybe. - Good. Go do what you do.
464
00:23:18,605 --> 00:23:20,482
Hey, it's Glenn Vernon.
465
00:23:21,233 --> 00:23:24,111
Listen, I've got a guy that I think
might be a good fit for your show.
466
00:23:24,486 --> 00:23:28,740
Yeah, the earth is seventy
percent, over seventy percent water!
467
00:23:28,949 --> 00:23:31,010
And we're supposed to believe
that this was an accident?
468
00:23:31,076 --> 00:23:33,120
We are under attack here folks!
469
00:23:33,328 --> 00:23:36,557
See? See this what happens when
you put a democrat in the white house.
470
00:23:36,623 --> 00:23:38,417
We are not safe here, folks!
471
00:23:38,708 --> 00:23:40,978
The sky is literally falling on top of us.
472
00:23:41,044 --> 00:23:42,521
And that's Mr. Dicks
473
00:23:42,587 --> 00:23:45,132
taking a page out of the
chicken little playbook,
474
00:23:45,340 --> 00:23:49,636
he's using this crash to justifiably foment
a mass hysteria among the electorate...
475
00:23:50,095 --> 00:23:52,323
And I do believe that
this would put Mr. Dicks
476
00:23:52,389 --> 00:23:54,516
in the title role of
chicken little himself.
477
00:23:54,808 --> 00:23:57,620
It is a particularly interesting
strategy considering
478
00:23:57,686 --> 00:24:00,981
that nothing ever fell down
when his guy was in office.
479
00:24:03,066 --> 00:24:05,235
What? They liked that one in rehearsal.
480
00:24:05,694 --> 00:24:08,923
But the big news of the day is the
revelation that Dr. Zachary Walzer,
481
00:24:08,989 --> 00:24:10,615
the outspoken Mars expert,
482
00:24:10,782 --> 00:24:14,453
was secretly brought in to investigate
the satellite crash in Canada.
483
00:24:14,786 --> 00:24:17,348
This has brought about
wild speculation in the media,
484
00:24:17,414 --> 00:24:20,017
and now joining us for
more wild speculation
485
00:24:20,083 --> 00:24:21,751
is Dr. Richard hadfield.
486
00:24:23,628 --> 00:24:26,631
- Now you are a doctor of... what exactly?
- Astrobiology.
487
00:24:27,007 --> 00:24:29,276
- Which is?
- The study of life outside the earth.
488
00:24:29,342 --> 00:24:31,612
Life outside the earth... so...
489
00:24:31,678 --> 00:24:33,948
Little green men? Is that
what we're talking here?
490
00:24:34,014 --> 00:24:35,682
More like little green germs.
491
00:24:38,643 --> 00:24:39,644
What?
492
00:24:40,770 --> 00:24:43,231
Sir, there's a guy on TV
I think you should see.
493
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,588
Now you've heard about them
bringing in this Mars guy this expert?
494
00:24:49,654 --> 00:24:50,965
Dr. Walzer, yes.
495
00:24:51,031 --> 00:24:52,365
Yeah, the Mars guy.
496
00:24:52,908 --> 00:24:54,451
Now um, what do you make of that?
497
00:24:55,869 --> 00:24:58,139
I think it's obvious to anyone
that's been paying attention.
498
00:24:58,205 --> 00:25:00,165
Get me calgary on the line, now.
499
00:25:02,042 --> 00:25:04,311
Let's use our imagination,
let's pretend, for a second that
500
00:25:04,377 --> 00:25:06,630
I have not been paying attention.
501
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,800
What have I, Joe six-pack, John
q. Citizen, what have I missed here?
502
00:25:11,384 --> 00:25:13,279
The pieces are there if you look for them.
503
00:25:13,345 --> 00:25:15,239
Why bring an expert in on Mars
504
00:25:15,305 --> 00:25:17,867
unless you're dealing with
something that had come from Mars.
505
00:25:17,933 --> 00:25:19,994
Something that had come from Mars? - Yes.
506
00:25:20,060 --> 00:25:22,079
So what are you're saying?
They've got aliens in there?
507
00:25:22,145 --> 00:25:23,956
This guy doesn't sound
like that much of a nut job.
508
00:25:24,022 --> 00:25:25,106
Wait for it.
509
00:25:25,315 --> 00:25:26,917
Right, that would be ridiculous.
510
00:25:26,983 --> 00:25:28,151
I'm watching.
511
00:25:28,902 --> 00:25:30,254
Put the pieces together.
512
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,590
Follow the evidence.
Most people don't do that.
513
00:25:32,656 --> 00:25:33,632
What pieces?
514
00:25:33,698 --> 00:25:36,993
You have debris from a crashed satellite,
the wreckage has been quarantined.
515
00:25:37,452 --> 00:25:39,299
Medical equipment has been seen
being taken to the base by eyewitnesses.
516
00:25:40,413 --> 00:25:43,542
And an expert on the Mars
consulting on the investigation.
517
00:25:43,875 --> 00:25:45,877
What do all of these things tell you?
518
00:25:46,628 --> 00:25:48,129
Space aliens. - No.
519
00:25:48,547 --> 00:25:50,024
We know there is no such thing.
520
00:25:50,090 --> 00:25:53,552
Does this guy actually know anything? Cause
he sounds like he might know something.
521
00:25:54,219 --> 00:25:56,155
How many leaks does this fucking ship have?
522
00:25:56,221 --> 00:25:58,473
No, no, maybe you haven't
been paying attention
523
00:25:58,723 --> 00:26:00,576
to the pieces that the regular people,
524
00:26:00,642 --> 00:26:02,369
you know, like me... you...
525
00:26:02,435 --> 00:26:05,772
I believe a probe sent to the planet Mars
has brought back some kind of contaminant.
526
00:26:05,897 --> 00:26:08,024
Some... form of microbial life.
527
00:26:08,275 --> 00:26:10,652
Perhaps even a bacteria or virus.
528
00:26:10,902 --> 00:26:14,781
The quarantine is in place to prevent
exposing it to our biosphere, which could
529
00:26:14,864 --> 00:26:18,034
unleash a martian plague and
wipe out the entire human race.
530
00:26:22,247 --> 00:26:23,248
Dude!
531
00:26:25,709 --> 00:26:27,127
That's fu ♪ing crazy!
532
00:26:33,216 --> 00:26:34,342
Nevermind...
533
00:26:40,015 --> 00:26:41,224
That was good.
534
00:26:42,017 --> 00:26:43,911
Now somebody hears anybody talk about Mars
535
00:26:43,977 --> 00:26:45,687
they'll think of this wacko.
536
00:26:46,438 --> 00:26:48,457
You've earned your paycheck for the week.
537
00:26:48,523 --> 00:26:50,275
I was worried for a second there.
538
00:26:52,360 --> 00:26:53,528
Yeah me too...
539
00:27:54,381 --> 00:27:57,008
I'm here with you. But they
need you to start talking.
540
00:28:00,053 --> 00:28:04,224
They have questions, lots of questions,
and they need you to tell them things.
541
00:28:09,270 --> 00:28:11,231
I want to stay with you.
542
00:28:14,150 --> 00:28:16,069
But they won't let me
543
00:28:16,277 --> 00:28:19,030
if you don't answer their questions.
544
00:28:23,326 --> 00:28:24,703
Do you understand?
545
00:28:27,122 --> 00:28:28,289
I'll go away.
546
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,669
They'll make me go away.
547
00:28:35,422 --> 00:28:37,132
Do you want me to stay?
548
00:28:43,638 --> 00:28:44,639
Yes.
549
00:28:52,147 --> 00:28:53,457
Did you hear the news?
550
00:28:53,523 --> 00:28:56,293
- Yeah, Vernon did good with hadfield.
- That's not what I'm talking about.
551
00:28:56,359 --> 00:28:58,778
- What now?
- Secretary Miller stepped down.
552
00:28:59,738 --> 00:29:00,756
Really? - Yeah.
553
00:29:00,822 --> 00:29:02,782
Who's running homeland? - One guess.
554
00:29:03,241 --> 00:29:04,951
Do you think this he was
angling for this all along?
555
00:29:04,993 --> 00:29:06,637
I don't think I'm that cynical.
556
00:29:06,703 --> 00:29:08,204
I'm exactly that cynical.
557
00:29:10,331 --> 00:29:12,125
As the head of homeland security.
558
00:29:12,250 --> 00:29:15,503
It has been confirmed that
secretary Miller has stepped down,
559
00:29:15,712 --> 00:29:18,691
there is speculation due to
sharp criticism from the right
560
00:29:18,757 --> 00:29:21,318
concerning the ongoing
situation in calgary,
561
00:29:21,384 --> 00:29:23,553
but the white house denies any connection.
562
00:29:23,928 --> 00:29:27,491
Assistant secretary Eric mcclellan
has been chosen to replace Mr. Miller
563
00:29:27,557 --> 00:29:29,618
as the head of homeland security.
564
00:29:29,684 --> 00:29:31,728
Again: It has been confirmed...
565
00:29:41,196 --> 00:29:43,031
Did you tell anyone I was here?
566
00:29:43,948 --> 00:29:46,576
It's all over the news. I
haven't told anyone else.
567
00:29:48,286 --> 00:29:49,972
It doesn't matter now but
568
00:29:50,038 --> 00:29:53,124
you can't call me here. If I
need anything else, I'll call you.
569
00:29:54,375 --> 00:29:57,521
Yes, it was very helpful, thank
you. But listen to what I'm saying.
570
00:29:57,587 --> 00:29:59,022
You can't call.
571
00:29:59,088 --> 00:30:01,049
I'll call you if I need anything.
572
00:30:02,342 --> 00:30:03,384
I will.
573
00:30:04,803 --> 00:30:06,262
That's not a good idea.
574
00:30:07,472 --> 00:30:10,141
No. That's not a good idea right now.
575
00:30:12,477 --> 00:30:13,603
Ok, bye.
576
00:30:28,117 --> 00:30:29,953
Next time, on pioneer one:
577
00:30:30,161 --> 00:30:31,496
Quite a coup your guy pulled off.
578
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:32,997
My visit is a courtesy.
579
00:30:33,122 --> 00:30:35,042
This thing is so much
bigger than what you think.
580
00:30:35,166 --> 00:30:36,417
No, it's bigger than you think.
581
00:30:36,626 --> 00:30:39,254
You're always talking “go
go go.” look what happens!
582
00:30:39,462 --> 00:30:41,482
You can be a real sonofabitch
sometimes, you know that?
583
00:30:41,548 --> 00:30:42,549
Well, that's it then.
584
00:30:44,008 --> 00:30:45,802
This quarantine is over.
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