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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:16,274 --> 00:00:19,448 [suspenseful music playing] 4 00:00:24,172 --> 00:00:27,275 Terry Sanderson is essentially claiming 5 00:00:27,275 --> 00:00:30,379 that Gwyneth Paltrow hit him from behind, 6 00:00:30,379 --> 00:00:32,619 causing him lasting brain injuries. 7 00:00:32,619 --> 00:00:36,517 It was like somebody was out of control 8 00:00:36,517 --> 00:00:40,103 and going to hit a tree and was gonna die. 9 00:00:40,103 --> 00:00:42,000 From day one, from six years ago, 10 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,689 she's saying, "Somebody hit me." 11 00:00:43,689 --> 00:00:46,275 She's never changed her story. 12 00:00:46,275 --> 00:00:49,965 I said, "You skied directly into my effing back." 13 00:00:53,586 --> 00:00:55,379 This is a man's life 14 00:00:55,379 --> 00:00:57,586 that was permanently changed by this. 15 00:00:57,586 --> 00:01:01,482 [intense music playing] 16 00:01:01,482 --> 00:01:03,931 Paltrow only asked for $1, 17 00:01:03,931 --> 00:01:05,413 a symbolic amount, 18 00:01:05,413 --> 00:01:07,172 showing that this wasn't about money, 19 00:01:07,172 --> 00:01:08,172 but about fault. 20 00:01:08,172 --> 00:01:09,793 For Paltrow and her reputation, 21 00:01:09,793 --> 00:01:11,344 there was a lot at stake here. 22 00:01:14,275 --> 00:01:17,103 Outside the courthouse, this tape has been put up. 23 00:01:17,103 --> 00:01:18,275 We cannot go beyond this 24 00:01:18,275 --> 00:01:20,724 in terms of trying to talk to Gwyneth Paltrow. 25 00:01:20,724 --> 00:01:23,586 [suspenseful music playing] 26 00:01:23,586 --> 00:01:24,793 As the jury, 27 00:01:24,793 --> 00:01:28,379 it was job to determine who was at fault. 28 00:01:28,379 --> 00:01:29,896 A he said, she said case 29 00:01:29,896 --> 00:01:32,689 is where both parties are arguing 30 00:01:32,689 --> 00:01:36,000 diametrically opposed versions of what happened. 31 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,586 [suspenseful music playing] 32 00:01:43,931 --> 00:01:48,862 It was important for the jury to see my truth. 33 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,620 That day, when Terry left his home 34 00:01:53,620 --> 00:01:55,378 to go ski in a Deer Valley, 35 00:01:55,378 --> 00:01:59,965 he never returned home that night as the same Terry. 36 00:02:02,482 --> 00:02:07,000 Mr. Sanderson categorically hit me on that ski slope. 37 00:02:09,275 --> 00:02:12,103 Determining who was the uphill skier 38 00:02:12,103 --> 00:02:14,068 and who was the downhill skier 39 00:02:14,068 --> 00:02:17,896 is the $300,000 question in this case. 40 00:02:17,896 --> 00:02:23,068 [singer] ♪ I tell my soul Fall in love again ♪ 41 00:02:24,931 --> 00:02:26,689 ♪ Tell my soul 42 00:02:26,689 --> 00:02:29,000 ♪ Fall in love again 43 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,482 ♪ Fall in love again 44 00:02:31,482 --> 00:02:34,724 ♪ I've been playing With fire ♪ 45 00:02:34,724 --> 00:02:37,000 ♪ It's got me On the devil's list ♪ 46 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,103 ♪ I tell my soul 47 00:02:40,103 --> 00:02:43,000 ♪ Fall in love 48 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,586 ♪ Fall in love again 49 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,862 [serene music playing] 50 00:03:06,379 --> 00:03:08,758 [birds chirping] 51 00:03:09,482 --> 00:03:11,103 At the beginning of 2023... 52 00:03:11,103 --> 00:03:12,103 [phone dings] 53 00:03:12,103 --> 00:03:13,586 I received an email 54 00:03:13,586 --> 00:03:16,689 telling me that I needed to go to jury selection. 55 00:03:16,689 --> 00:03:20,482 I was very concerned it was gonna be a murder 56 00:03:20,482 --> 00:03:22,482 or a child abuse case 57 00:03:22,482 --> 00:03:25,655 in which I would've had a really challenging time. 58 00:03:27,517 --> 00:03:29,379 When I was in jury selection, 59 00:03:29,379 --> 00:03:32,793 they said, "This is Sanderson versus Paltrow," 60 00:03:32,793 --> 00:03:34,930 and I didn't really put together 61 00:03:34,930 --> 00:03:36,758 that this was Gwyneth Paltrow. 62 00:03:37,689 --> 00:03:39,413 [Judge Holmburg] Okay. Let the record reflect that 63 00:03:39,413 --> 00:03:42,241 counsel and their clients are present in the courtroom. 64 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,827 Now that you've been chosen as jurors, 65 00:03:46,827 --> 00:03:49,103 you are required to decide this case 66 00:03:49,103 --> 00:03:52,379 based only on the evidence that you see and hear 67 00:03:52,379 --> 00:03:53,896 in this courtroom. 68 00:04:00,379 --> 00:04:04,689 [Samantha] I had no idea what a big case this was gonna be. 69 00:04:04,689 --> 00:04:06,793 Never did I think that this was gonna be 70 00:04:06,793 --> 00:04:09,379 an international televised event 71 00:04:09,379 --> 00:04:11,172 that people were interested in. 72 00:04:13,068 --> 00:04:15,689 [Julia] This place is expected to be packed tomorrow. 73 00:04:15,689 --> 00:04:17,689 There are multiple media outlets 74 00:04:17,689 --> 00:04:20,103 that are expected to cover this civil case 75 00:04:20,103 --> 00:04:22,379 along with national media as well, 76 00:04:22,379 --> 00:04:23,517 and our cameras are going to be 77 00:04:23,517 --> 00:04:25,482 inside of that courtroom. 78 00:04:25,482 --> 00:04:29,620 Terry Sanderson was suing actress Gwyneth Paltrow 79 00:04:29,620 --> 00:04:34,137 for over $300,000 in damages from a ski collision. 80 00:04:35,620 --> 00:04:37,379 I looked very hard 81 00:04:37,379 --> 00:04:41,000 for another celebrity versus civilian trial 82 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,620 where you have a case that goes all the way to a jury, 83 00:04:44,620 --> 00:04:46,000 and I couldn't find one, 84 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,862 not in the last 20 or 30 years. 85 00:04:51,103 --> 00:04:52,827 [Judge Holmburg] This is the case of 86 00:04:52,827 --> 00:04:54,689 Terry Sanderson versus Gwyneth Paltrow, 87 00:04:54,689 --> 00:04:58,827 case number 190500048. 88 00:04:58,827 --> 00:05:00,379 [Samantha] I don't know how I didn't hear 89 00:05:00,379 --> 00:05:02,000 about the case before. 90 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,000 I guess it was just old news at the time, 91 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:08,793 and I found out the details in opening statements. 92 00:05:08,793 --> 00:05:11,068 [Bob] There are only three issues in the case. 93 00:05:11,068 --> 00:05:13,137 Number one, who hit whom? 94 00:05:14,413 --> 00:05:15,689 Okay? 95 00:05:15,689 --> 00:05:17,482 Number two, 96 00:05:17,482 --> 00:05:20,793 did it cause any damage? 97 00:05:22,206 --> 00:05:24,068 Number three, 98 00:05:24,068 --> 00:05:25,793 what are the damages? 99 00:05:27,896 --> 00:05:29,827 Probably the single most important fact 100 00:05:29,827 --> 00:05:32,379 in determining who was at fault here 101 00:05:32,379 --> 00:05:36,068 is to determine who was uphill from the other person. 102 00:05:36,068 --> 00:05:39,103 Under Utah law, if you are uphill, 103 00:05:39,103 --> 00:05:43,000 you have the duty to avoid the downhill skier. 104 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,931 When you have a car accident, the police will tell you, 105 00:05:45,931 --> 00:05:48,724 "Even if the person hard stopped in front of you, 106 00:05:48,724 --> 00:05:50,379 if you're in the back and you ran into them, 107 00:05:50,379 --> 00:05:51,793 you're at fault," 108 00:05:51,793 --> 00:05:54,586 so similar situation on a ski slope. 109 00:05:54,586 --> 00:06:00,103 She sees two skis appear between her skis, 110 00:06:00,103 --> 00:06:05,413 and a man comes up right behind her. 111 00:06:05,413 --> 00:06:08,586 Essentially, the only two people in this world 112 00:06:08,586 --> 00:06:12,241 who know the truth are Gwyneth Paltrow and Terry Sanderson. 113 00:06:25,517 --> 00:06:27,103 Going into the trial, 114 00:06:27,103 --> 00:06:28,793 we don't know much about Terry Sanderson. 115 00:06:29,827 --> 00:06:31,827 The biggest look anyone had had at him 116 00:06:31,827 --> 00:06:33,689 was in at the press conference 117 00:06:33,689 --> 00:06:35,655 where he announced that he was filing this lawsuit. 118 00:06:41,827 --> 00:06:44,103 This is bizarre. 119 00:06:44,103 --> 00:06:45,172 [man] Are you Terry Sanderson? 120 00:06:45,172 --> 00:06:46,379 -[man] Are you Terry? -I'm Terry. 121 00:06:46,379 --> 00:06:47,896 -Hi. -[man] Nice to meet you. 122 00:06:47,896 --> 00:06:50,482 The accident happened in February, 2016, 123 00:06:50,482 --> 00:06:52,068 and it took Terry Sanderson three years 124 00:06:52,068 --> 00:06:53,172 to file the lawsuit. 125 00:06:53,172 --> 00:06:54,379 He claimed it was because 126 00:06:54,379 --> 00:06:56,000 he couldn't come to an agreement 127 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,413 with Paltrow's lawyers. 128 00:06:57,413 --> 00:06:59,103 I did reach out. 129 00:06:59,103 --> 00:07:00,896 Um, I figured I... 130 00:07:00,896 --> 00:07:03,310 She had my name for two or three years, and, um... 131 00:07:03,310 --> 00:07:07,620 And I figured maybe someday she just contact me and say, 132 00:07:07,620 --> 00:07:09,482 "Hey, you doing all right and how's everything?" 133 00:07:09,482 --> 00:07:11,344 And... But no, I didn't. 134 00:07:12,586 --> 00:07:14,517 [Daniel B] Terry Sanderson was a respectable 135 00:07:14,517 --> 00:07:15,793 middle class guy. 136 00:07:15,793 --> 00:07:18,000 He's a retired optometrist. 137 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,413 He seemed nervous, a little twitchy as well, 138 00:07:20,413 --> 00:07:22,793 and he also seemed very, very sure 139 00:07:22,793 --> 00:07:24,689 that what he was saying was the truth. 140 00:07:26,206 --> 00:07:30,827 This little guy who had been run over on a ski slope 141 00:07:30,827 --> 00:07:35,827 by this powerful and very wealthy celebrity. 142 00:07:35,827 --> 00:07:38,275 Well, I've skied for over 30 years. 143 00:07:38,275 --> 00:07:40,413 I've never knocked anybody down and hurt him. 144 00:07:40,413 --> 00:07:42,896 I've never been knocked down or gotten hurt. 145 00:07:42,896 --> 00:07:46,931 I think this is kind of a unique situation. 146 00:07:46,931 --> 00:07:49,620 Terry Sanderson's allegation was that essentially 147 00:07:49,620 --> 00:07:52,000 this accident was an inflection point in his life. 148 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,172 Before he was outgoing, he was sociable. 149 00:07:54,172 --> 00:07:56,620 Afterwards, he described it as, uh, 150 00:07:56,620 --> 00:07:58,689 living a completely different life essentially. 151 00:07:58,689 --> 00:08:02,862 [dramatic music playing] 152 00:08:07,275 --> 00:08:09,310 [Karlene] This was one of our first dates 153 00:08:09,310 --> 00:08:11,827 that we had gone out to eat. 154 00:08:11,827 --> 00:08:15,896 He was very vibrant and just cute. 155 00:08:17,689 --> 00:08:19,206 I mean, it was like, there was never 156 00:08:19,206 --> 00:08:20,896 a dull moment with him. 157 00:08:20,896 --> 00:08:24,172 He was just a very energetic, fun person. 158 00:08:24,172 --> 00:08:28,206 More hiking, we did a lot of hiking together and, um... 159 00:08:28,206 --> 00:08:30,000 [chuckles] 160 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,379 Yeah, he was... He just always had a big smile. 161 00:08:32,379 --> 00:08:34,895 He was always just with huge smile on his face, 162 00:08:34,895 --> 00:08:37,827 just... fun. 163 00:08:37,827 --> 00:08:39,413 He loved to be skiing 164 00:08:39,413 --> 00:08:41,275 and especially during the wintertime, 165 00:08:41,275 --> 00:08:43,102 and he'd skied for years 166 00:08:43,102 --> 00:08:45,482 and just his own experience of what he told me. 167 00:08:45,482 --> 00:08:48,275 He was, you know, very confident on the hill. 168 00:08:48,275 --> 00:08:52,827 This was actually after the accident. 169 00:08:52,827 --> 00:08:55,896 Look at that, his smile wasn't quite the same. 170 00:08:55,896 --> 00:08:57,241 Interesting. 171 00:08:58,724 --> 00:09:01,206 He came home and he's described that 172 00:09:01,206 --> 00:09:03,689 he had been in a ski accident and somebody had hit him. 173 00:09:03,689 --> 00:09:05,689 And I... At the time, he didn't even know... 174 00:09:05,689 --> 00:09:07,206 I don't believe he said Gwyneth Paltrow. 175 00:09:07,206 --> 00:09:08,793 He didn't know who it was. 176 00:09:08,793 --> 00:09:10,586 He just said, "I had been hit on the hill." 177 00:09:10,586 --> 00:09:12,724 You know, he was definitely hurt 178 00:09:12,724 --> 00:09:14,310 more than what he was letting on. 179 00:09:14,310 --> 00:09:17,965 [tense music playing] 180 00:09:21,172 --> 00:09:24,620 I know that there's press presence in this room, 181 00:09:24,620 --> 00:09:28,379 um, and there are only two, uh, members of the press 182 00:09:28,379 --> 00:09:32,068 that have authority to record. 183 00:09:33,793 --> 00:09:36,310 [Julia] Judge Kent Holmburg had approved cameras 184 00:09:36,310 --> 00:09:37,413 inside of the courtroom. 185 00:09:37,413 --> 00:09:40,275 And in in Utah, this is an open courtroom. 186 00:09:40,275 --> 00:09:42,103 This is public access, 187 00:09:42,103 --> 00:09:45,482 so we would be recording every minute of this trial. 188 00:09:45,482 --> 00:09:47,241 [woman] Be seated. 189 00:09:48,172 --> 00:09:49,896 [Daniel B] Paltrow's choice of clothes 190 00:09:49,896 --> 00:09:52,206 and her demeanor in court were 191 00:09:52,206 --> 00:09:53,379 playing to the jury for sure, 192 00:09:53,379 --> 00:09:54,379 but they're also playing to the public. 193 00:09:54,379 --> 00:09:57,000 I mean, she knew it was being televised. 194 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,689 She's been in front of a camera before, 195 00:09:58,689 --> 00:10:00,620 she understands how it works. 196 00:10:00,620 --> 00:10:02,896 And then in the other corner, you had Terry Sanderson. 197 00:10:02,896 --> 00:10:05,310 He's just a member of the public. 198 00:10:05,310 --> 00:10:07,482 So it was gonna be interesting to see how regular Joe 199 00:10:07,482 --> 00:10:09,172 are compared against a powerful 200 00:10:09,172 --> 00:10:10,965 and influential celebrity. 201 00:10:13,206 --> 00:10:14,482 Thank you. 202 00:10:15,206 --> 00:10:17,689 Mr. Sykes, you may proceed. 203 00:10:17,689 --> 00:10:21,586 [Terri] Terry Sanderson was represented by Bob Sykes. 204 00:10:21,586 --> 00:10:23,689 Bob Sykes, in my opinion, 205 00:10:23,689 --> 00:10:27,275 is one of the leading brain injury attorneys in Utah, 206 00:10:27,275 --> 00:10:30,448 based on his 30 plus years of experience. 207 00:10:32,172 --> 00:10:34,689 Brain injury took on particular significance 208 00:10:34,689 --> 00:10:37,620 because Terry Sanderson alleged 209 00:10:37,620 --> 00:10:40,896 that Ms. Paltrow had crashed into him 210 00:10:40,896 --> 00:10:43,068 and caused him a brain injury. 211 00:10:44,103 --> 00:10:46,482 [Julia] This case really becomes more complicated 212 00:10:46,482 --> 00:10:49,586 because there's a lack of video evidence. 213 00:10:49,586 --> 00:10:52,896 So we were solely relying on the testimony 214 00:10:52,896 --> 00:10:55,379 of the two parties who were in the collision, 215 00:10:55,379 --> 00:10:57,275 and these two other witnesses, 216 00:10:57,275 --> 00:10:59,172 a ski instructor, Eric Christiansen, 217 00:10:59,172 --> 00:11:01,068 and the friend of the plaintiff, 218 00:11:01,068 --> 00:11:02,482 Craig Ramon, 219 00:11:02,482 --> 00:11:03,896 who were there at the scene. 220 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,172 [Judge Holmburg] Good afternoon, everyone. 221 00:11:09,172 --> 00:11:11,000 We're ready for our first witness, Mr. Sykes? 222 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,206 -[Bob] We are. -And who would that be? 223 00:11:13,206 --> 00:11:14,344 [Bob] Craig Ramon. 224 00:11:15,482 --> 00:11:17,517 [Julia] Craig Ramon was certainly on paper, 225 00:11:17,517 --> 00:11:20,103 a star witness for the plaintiff. 226 00:11:20,103 --> 00:11:21,896 He was going to be the one 227 00:11:21,896 --> 00:11:24,551 to corroborate the plaintiff's case. 228 00:11:27,586 --> 00:11:29,896 [Bob] Tell the jury, if you would, 229 00:11:29,896 --> 00:11:32,275 what you saw and heard that day 230 00:11:32,275 --> 00:11:36,000 at approximately 11:45 a.m. 231 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,000 on February 26th, 2016. 232 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,586 Craig Ramon was the one person 233 00:11:42,586 --> 00:11:45,482 who testified in court that I'm aware of 234 00:11:45,482 --> 00:11:49,000 that said they saw the actual moment of impact. 235 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,206 I heard a scream, and then... And then... 236 00:11:51,206 --> 00:11:53,517 And then I see this skier 237 00:11:53,517 --> 00:11:56,000 just slamming into the back, Terry. 238 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,000 And when... And she just slammed him. 239 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,275 -[Bob] How hard? -Very hard. 240 00:12:00,275 --> 00:12:02,689 He... I mean, very hard. 241 00:12:02,689 --> 00:12:04,000 And he goes, face down 242 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:05,724 and Gwyneth's on the top of him, 243 00:12:05,724 --> 00:12:08,000 and they go down like this, 244 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,620 and then Gwyneth hits him 245 00:12:09,620 --> 00:12:11,586 and then bounces off and slides to the right 246 00:12:11,586 --> 00:12:14,000 about 5 or 10 feet. 247 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:18,172 [Samantha] Craig's initial testimony did seem credible. 248 00:12:18,172 --> 00:12:21,103 We were all a little bit excited thinking 249 00:12:21,103 --> 00:12:22,586 why do we need to hear anything else 250 00:12:22,586 --> 00:12:25,000 if only one person saw the collision? 251 00:12:26,482 --> 00:12:28,793 He sees that Terry is out of it 252 00:12:28,793 --> 00:12:30,206 for some period of time, 253 00:12:30,206 --> 00:12:32,482 and then he starts talking about 254 00:12:32,482 --> 00:12:36,896 aspects of Terry Sanderson's mental functioning. 255 00:12:36,896 --> 00:12:39,862 He just didn't know his name, didn't know where he was at. 256 00:12:40,896 --> 00:12:42,379 So he didn't know he was at Deer Valley? 257 00:12:42,379 --> 00:12:44,793 -[Craig] No. -Okay. 258 00:12:44,793 --> 00:12:48,689 That is the type of thing that is commonly associated 259 00:12:48,689 --> 00:12:50,931 with a brain injury. 260 00:12:50,931 --> 00:12:53,793 [Bob] Now, a few seconds after you got there, 261 00:12:53,793 --> 00:12:56,482 did someone else arrived and who? 262 00:12:56,482 --> 00:12:59,413 Yeah. Um, it's Eric. 263 00:12:59,413 --> 00:13:00,793 He showed up. 264 00:13:00,793 --> 00:13:02,172 -[Bob] Eric Christiansen? -Yes. 265 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,310 Eric Christiansen is a ski instructor 266 00:13:05,310 --> 00:13:07,379 who was in charge of helping 267 00:13:07,379 --> 00:13:09,793 Gwyneth Paltrow and her children. 268 00:13:09,793 --> 00:13:11,724 [Bob] At some point, did you learn the name 269 00:13:11,724 --> 00:13:14,103 of the skier that hit Terry? 270 00:13:14,103 --> 00:13:17,310 Well, she ended up taking off and going down, 271 00:13:17,310 --> 00:13:20,275 and then, Eric said... 272 00:13:20,275 --> 00:13:24,413 He said, "Gwyneth Paltrow just took out your buddy." 273 00:13:24,413 --> 00:13:28,103 The fact that Craig Ramon was the only one 274 00:13:28,103 --> 00:13:30,689 who saw the actual moment of impact, 275 00:13:30,689 --> 00:13:32,586 I would give a lot of weight 276 00:13:32,586 --> 00:13:34,517 to the person that said they saw it. 277 00:13:34,517 --> 00:13:35,724 [Bob] I'm sorry. He said what? 278 00:13:35,724 --> 00:13:37,275 [Craig] He said, "Gwyneth Paltrow 279 00:13:37,275 --> 00:13:39,551 just took out your buddy." 280 00:13:45,344 --> 00:13:47,862 [dramatic music playing] 281 00:13:49,689 --> 00:13:51,241 [man] Good luck today, Gwyneth. 282 00:13:52,862 --> 00:13:54,655 [Daniel B] Paltrow's legal team 283 00:13:54,655 --> 00:13:57,758 was from a Utah company called Epperson and Owens. 284 00:13:58,689 --> 00:14:01,034 And her lead council was Stephen Owens. 285 00:14:01,034 --> 00:14:04,172 And the company is a medical malpractice company. 286 00:14:04,172 --> 00:14:08,000 So when a patient has an accident in hospital, 287 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,655 and it's their job to prove in court 288 00:14:10,655 --> 00:14:12,758 that the patient is lying. 289 00:14:12,758 --> 00:14:14,482 And so going into the trial, I think 290 00:14:14,482 --> 00:14:16,896 people were, you know, inclined to believe 291 00:14:16,896 --> 00:14:18,413 that they represent the bad guys. 292 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,448 I think people looked at it as if it were 293 00:14:22,448 --> 00:14:25,275 a David and Goliath situation. 294 00:14:25,275 --> 00:14:26,896 -[man 1] Gwyneth. -[man 2] [indistinct] 295 00:14:26,896 --> 00:14:28,344 [man 1] Gwyneth. 296 00:14:28,344 --> 00:14:29,482 [Bruce] She had more money 297 00:14:29,482 --> 00:14:31,448 to litigate the case with. 298 00:14:31,448 --> 00:14:33,896 Sometimes we'll use the term war chest. 299 00:14:33,896 --> 00:14:35,896 It's a bit like an arms race, 300 00:14:35,896 --> 00:14:38,896 you know, what resources can you bring to bear to this? 301 00:14:38,896 --> 00:14:40,965 And there seemed to be a disparity in that. 302 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,689 [Daniel B] She is world famous. 303 00:14:43,689 --> 00:14:45,896 She's known all over the world. 304 00:14:45,896 --> 00:14:48,482 She's got this massive fortune through goop, 305 00:14:48,482 --> 00:14:49,896 her luxury wellness brand. 306 00:14:49,896 --> 00:14:51,655 It didn't seem like a fair fight. 307 00:14:52,655 --> 00:14:54,275 Terry Sanderson wasn't able to hire 308 00:14:54,275 --> 00:14:56,965 a crack medical malpractice team. 309 00:14:57,896 --> 00:15:00,482 [Judge Holmburg] Mr. Owens, you may proceed. 310 00:15:00,482 --> 00:15:03,275 Gwyneth Paltrow's lawyers were absolutely vicious 311 00:15:03,275 --> 00:15:04,689 and they were no more vicious 312 00:15:04,689 --> 00:15:05,758 than when it came 313 00:15:05,758 --> 00:15:07,586 to Terry's daughters. 314 00:15:07,586 --> 00:15:10,379 Essentially, they turned this guy's family story 315 00:15:10,379 --> 00:15:11,862 against him. 316 00:15:12,275 --> 00:15:13,862 Uh, this is hard. 317 00:15:13,862 --> 00:15:15,896 This is a hard position you're in. 318 00:15:15,896 --> 00:15:18,586 Do you agree? This is not a happy thing 319 00:15:18,586 --> 00:15:20,034 that you're having to do? 320 00:15:20,896 --> 00:15:22,034 Correct. 321 00:15:24,379 --> 00:15:26,689 Terry's youngest daughter, Jenny, didn't testify, 322 00:15:26,689 --> 00:15:28,482 but we heard through excerpts of a deposition 323 00:15:28,482 --> 00:15:30,034 and questions of other witnesses 324 00:15:30,034 --> 00:15:31,862 that she had a very troubled relationship 325 00:15:31,862 --> 00:15:33,103 with Terry growing up. 326 00:15:34,344 --> 00:15:36,482 Jenny is your little sister, right? 327 00:15:36,482 --> 00:15:37,758 Correct. 328 00:15:37,758 --> 00:15:39,103 Do you agree that you paint 329 00:15:39,103 --> 00:15:41,586 quite a different picture of your dad 330 00:15:41,586 --> 00:15:44,758 before than Jenny does? 331 00:15:44,758 --> 00:15:46,862 [tense music playing] 332 00:15:48,172 --> 00:15:50,000 [Karlene] He was very close with his girls. 333 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,862 They loved him. They talked to him. 334 00:15:51,862 --> 00:15:54,000 We'd visit with them. 335 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,000 When they turned his daughters against each other, 336 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,655 that bothered me a lot 337 00:15:58,655 --> 00:16:00,379 because I knew all three of those girls. 338 00:16:00,379 --> 00:16:02,862 -[Polly] So my sister Jenny... -Yes or no, please. 339 00:16:02,862 --> 00:16:05,344 -[Polly] has mental disability. -[Bob] Objection, Your Honor. 340 00:16:05,344 --> 00:16:08,379 -I just have yes or no questions. -[Bob] Objection. Objection. 341 00:16:08,379 --> 00:16:11,000 You take any family situation 342 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,000 and, you know, if it's not the Osmond family, 343 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,344 it's gonna have problems. 344 00:16:17,275 --> 00:16:19,586 But those problems certainly weren't better 345 00:16:19,586 --> 00:16:22,758 after he got brain injured, they were worse. 346 00:16:23,482 --> 00:16:27,344 Jenny didn't talk to your dad for 13 years 347 00:16:27,344 --> 00:16:28,896 after getting out of the house 348 00:16:28,896 --> 00:16:31,448 after high school, is that true? 349 00:16:31,448 --> 00:16:33,344 [Bob] Objection. No foundation for that. 350 00:16:33,344 --> 00:16:35,965 -[Polly] No. -She can... It's not true? 351 00:16:38,068 --> 00:16:39,379 [Karlene] It broke my heart. 352 00:16:39,379 --> 00:16:41,137 That was unfair. That was unkind. 353 00:16:41,137 --> 00:16:45,172 It was not an accurate description 354 00:16:45,172 --> 00:16:49,310 at all of what was really happening with that family. 355 00:16:50,068 --> 00:16:53,758 [dramatic music playing] 356 00:17:03,896 --> 00:17:05,448 [woman] Do you swear that the testimony 357 00:17:05,448 --> 00:17:07,241 you are about to give in the case now 358 00:17:07,241 --> 00:17:10,172 before the court will be the truth, the whole truth, 359 00:17:10,172 --> 00:17:12,344 and nothing but the truth, so help you God? 360 00:17:12,344 --> 00:17:13,896 -Yes. -[woman] Thank you. 361 00:17:13,896 --> 00:17:15,964 One of the most important witnesses 362 00:17:15,964 --> 00:17:19,275 that they put on was Terry's partner, 363 00:17:19,275 --> 00:17:21,482 who was probably more intimately acquainted 364 00:17:21,482 --> 00:17:23,448 with him than anyone else. 365 00:17:23,448 --> 00:17:25,689 -[Bob] Good afternoon. -Good afternoon. 366 00:17:25,689 --> 00:17:28,550 She was able to speak to what she saw him do 367 00:17:28,550 --> 00:17:31,275 and what he was no longer able to do. 368 00:17:31,275 --> 00:17:33,275 Well just tell the jury about the change 369 00:17:33,275 --> 00:17:35,068 in his activity level, if you would. 370 00:17:35,068 --> 00:17:36,482 He became like an old man. 371 00:17:36,482 --> 00:17:38,379 He didn't want to do anything anymore. 372 00:17:38,379 --> 00:17:40,000 He wasn't... 373 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,862 Just felt like he wasn't capable 374 00:17:41,862 --> 00:17:43,586 or just didn't feel good about it. 375 00:17:43,586 --> 00:17:45,206 His joy was gone. 376 00:17:47,275 --> 00:17:49,275 The personality changes 377 00:17:49,275 --> 00:17:50,862 had to have been 378 00:17:50,862 --> 00:17:53,034 something created by something. 379 00:17:53,034 --> 00:17:55,137 It was like an overnight kind of thing. 380 00:17:55,137 --> 00:17:56,724 So it had to be the accident. 381 00:17:58,241 --> 00:18:02,275 He knew he couldn't stay as energized and connected, 382 00:18:02,275 --> 00:18:04,241 and so he pulled away 383 00:18:04,241 --> 00:18:05,758 and pushed me away 384 00:18:05,758 --> 00:18:09,103 to almost save me 385 00:18:09,103 --> 00:18:11,034 from having to deal with whatever 386 00:18:11,034 --> 00:18:12,448 it was going on with him. 387 00:18:14,896 --> 00:18:17,896 [Samantha] It was hard not to feel some sympathy, 388 00:18:17,896 --> 00:18:21,172 especially for his ex-girlfriend Karlene. 389 00:18:21,965 --> 00:18:24,000 She is still in love with him. 390 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,344 And to see somebody 391 00:18:26,344 --> 00:18:29,103 change that rapidly and drastically 392 00:18:29,103 --> 00:18:32,172 can be super emotional and confusing. 393 00:18:32,172 --> 00:18:35,586 It was like he wasn't happy anymore. 394 00:18:35,586 --> 00:18:37,068 He couldn't... 395 00:18:37,068 --> 00:18:40,034 He just didn't feel like the same person. 396 00:18:40,034 --> 00:18:41,379 He lost a lot. 397 00:18:41,379 --> 00:18:44,551 [dramatic music playing] 398 00:18:52,068 --> 00:18:53,793 The lawyers are getting ready to show you 399 00:18:53,793 --> 00:18:56,586 a videotaped piece of testimony 400 00:18:56,586 --> 00:18:59,172 and they're just finishing their preparations for that. 401 00:19:01,034 --> 00:19:03,655 Establishing proximate cause 402 00:19:03,655 --> 00:19:05,655 and the extent of those injuries 403 00:19:05,655 --> 00:19:08,965 is crucial to any personal injury case. 404 00:19:09,896 --> 00:19:11,689 [Bob] Is it your opinion that Dr. Sanderson 405 00:19:11,689 --> 00:19:15,793 had a concussion on or about February 26th, 2016? 406 00:19:15,793 --> 00:19:17,275 [Dr. Fong] Yes, it is. 407 00:19:17,275 --> 00:19:19,896 [Bob] And that resulted in a TBI. 408 00:19:19,896 --> 00:19:21,551 [Dr. Fong] It resulted in what we consider 409 00:19:21,551 --> 00:19:24,517 an MTBI, yes, a traumatic brain injury. 410 00:19:26,551 --> 00:19:28,965 Bob was bringing Alina Fong on 411 00:19:28,965 --> 00:19:31,482 because she had treated him 412 00:19:31,482 --> 00:19:34,551 and had tried to make him better. 413 00:19:38,586 --> 00:19:40,000 It was clear to me 414 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,896 when I saw Terry's FMRI results 415 00:19:42,896 --> 00:19:46,793 that there was a definite abnormality 416 00:19:46,793 --> 00:19:49,448 in the way that his brain was firing. 417 00:19:49,448 --> 00:19:51,655 I'm still saying the first test for you. 418 00:19:53,482 --> 00:19:56,862 The concussion was most likely 419 00:19:56,862 --> 00:20:00,448 what caused him to have these ongoing problems. 420 00:20:02,655 --> 00:20:05,275 Now, for a patient that is injured 421 00:20:05,275 --> 00:20:07,896 or has had a traumatic brain injury, 422 00:20:07,896 --> 00:20:10,275 we see quite a bit of dysregulation 423 00:20:10,275 --> 00:20:14,000 and movement in the red for many of these 424 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,827 cognitive functions here that we see listed. 425 00:20:19,172 --> 00:20:23,137 Terry Sanderson first came to see us in 2017. 426 00:20:23,137 --> 00:20:26,551 He was just someone that was desperate 427 00:20:26,551 --> 00:20:29,655 to improve and to get back to this life that he loved. 428 00:20:32,068 --> 00:20:34,241 [Bob] Why did you recommend that he travel? 429 00:20:34,241 --> 00:20:36,689 I encouraged him to try to get back 430 00:20:36,689 --> 00:20:38,655 to doing things that he loved. 431 00:20:38,655 --> 00:20:40,068 I did caution him 432 00:20:40,068 --> 00:20:41,758 that he should not travel alone 433 00:20:41,758 --> 00:20:43,655 because of his memory issues 434 00:20:43,655 --> 00:20:46,206 and other problem solving issues. 435 00:20:48,482 --> 00:20:52,344 Dr. Fong's findings with Terry Sanderson 436 00:20:52,344 --> 00:20:53,862 made complete sense. 437 00:20:53,862 --> 00:20:55,862 I think that he potentially did 438 00:20:55,862 --> 00:20:57,896 suffer a concussion and was suffering 439 00:20:57,896 --> 00:21:01,000 from post-concussive syndrome. 440 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,103 [Dr. Fong] When Terry was here, he was an ideal patient. 441 00:21:04,103 --> 00:21:06,034 He gave his best effort, 442 00:21:06,034 --> 00:21:09,586 but we were nowhere finished. 443 00:21:09,586 --> 00:21:11,586 You know, we were nowhere to the point where I'd say, 444 00:21:11,586 --> 00:21:13,241 "Yes, he's recovered." 445 00:21:15,344 --> 00:21:19,586 It seemed to me that Terry Sanderson 446 00:21:19,586 --> 00:21:21,172 was really hurt. 447 00:21:21,172 --> 00:21:22,586 There really doesn't seem to be 448 00:21:22,586 --> 00:21:24,620 much dispute about that. 449 00:21:26,758 --> 00:21:29,275 I was especially persuaded by the medical evidence 450 00:21:29,275 --> 00:21:31,758 that showed that his ribs in the back were broken. 451 00:21:32,689 --> 00:21:34,793 This was an X-ray taken the day 452 00:21:34,793 --> 00:21:37,379 after his incident. 453 00:21:37,379 --> 00:21:39,275 And I think the importance of this 454 00:21:39,275 --> 00:21:42,344 is documenting the trauma that he sustained. 455 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,689 And based upon my analysis 456 00:21:45,689 --> 00:21:47,482 of the X-rays, 457 00:21:47,482 --> 00:21:48,896 I think it's very unlikely 458 00:21:48,896 --> 00:21:52,034 that this would've been caused 459 00:21:52,034 --> 00:21:56,965 by Terry running into Gwyneth Paltrow. 460 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,482 It was consistent with the fact 461 00:22:00,482 --> 00:22:02,275 that Gwyneth hit him in the back 462 00:22:02,275 --> 00:22:04,689 and it was consistent with the fact 463 00:22:04,689 --> 00:22:07,793 that it was a high speed impact. 464 00:22:07,793 --> 00:22:10,758 [dramatic music playing] 465 00:22:18,448 --> 00:22:20,482 -We could bring in the jury. -[Judge Holmburg] Okay. 466 00:22:20,482 --> 00:22:21,965 -Call them in. -Let's... 467 00:22:27,482 --> 00:22:29,551 Plaintiff, you may call your next witness. 468 00:22:31,482 --> 00:22:34,551 Let's call Mr. Terry Sanderson. 469 00:22:36,275 --> 00:22:38,103 Knowing that Terry Sanderson 470 00:22:38,103 --> 00:22:41,862 was getting on the stand was clearly a pivotal part 471 00:22:41,862 --> 00:22:44,034 in this trial. 472 00:22:44,034 --> 00:22:46,413 He was going to tell his story. 473 00:22:48,689 --> 00:22:50,896 Putting Terry Sanderson on the stand 474 00:22:50,896 --> 00:22:53,275 or any plaintiff is always a risk 475 00:22:53,275 --> 00:22:55,137 but is one that is expected 476 00:22:55,137 --> 00:22:56,379 because if you're the one 477 00:22:56,379 --> 00:22:58,379 that is claiming these injuries, 478 00:22:58,379 --> 00:22:59,862 then you need to tell the jury 479 00:22:59,862 --> 00:23:01,655 your side of this. 480 00:23:03,275 --> 00:23:06,379 I just remember everything was great 481 00:23:06,379 --> 00:23:08,586 and then, I heard something 482 00:23:08,586 --> 00:23:10,482 I've never heard of a ski resort 483 00:23:10,482 --> 00:23:14,172 and that was a bloodcurdling scream. 484 00:23:14,172 --> 00:23:15,689 Just... I can't do it. 485 00:23:15,689 --> 00:23:17,448 It was... [makes sound] 486 00:23:17,448 --> 00:23:20,689 and then, boom. 487 00:23:20,689 --> 00:23:22,689 [Peter] Terry Sanderson's team tried to show 488 00:23:22,689 --> 00:23:24,896 that Gwyneth Paltrow had a habit 489 00:23:24,896 --> 00:23:27,275 of not being safe. 490 00:23:27,275 --> 00:23:29,448 They wanted to bring in some clips and articles 491 00:23:29,448 --> 00:23:30,793 about her on a scooter 492 00:23:30,793 --> 00:23:32,551 almost crashing into a school bus. 493 00:23:34,172 --> 00:23:36,344 [bus honking] 494 00:23:36,344 --> 00:23:38,344 But just using one past event 495 00:23:38,344 --> 00:23:39,793 that you can say was not safe 496 00:23:39,793 --> 00:23:41,379 without knowing all the details around it 497 00:23:41,379 --> 00:23:42,862 is never gonna be able to be applied 498 00:23:42,862 --> 00:23:44,275 in a trial like this. 499 00:23:44,275 --> 00:23:46,689 Ms. Paltrow went on Jimmy Kimmel saying, 500 00:23:46,689 --> 00:23:48,448 "Yes, I am accident prone. 501 00:23:48,448 --> 00:23:50,896 I am always running into things," 502 00:23:50,896 --> 00:23:53,655 which is very relevant to this case. 503 00:23:53,655 --> 00:23:55,896 Have you broken anything before? 504 00:23:55,896 --> 00:23:57,689 I've broken actually toes, 505 00:23:57,689 --> 00:23:59,862 like, probably eight or ten times. 506 00:23:59,862 --> 00:24:01,655 [Jimmy] Really? Like all of them? 507 00:24:01,655 --> 00:24:03,586 I don't know. 508 00:24:03,586 --> 00:24:05,344 I don't know what is wrong with me. 509 00:24:06,862 --> 00:24:09,379 They wanted to prove that this careless behavior 510 00:24:09,379 --> 00:24:12,275 shown by Gwyneth Paltrow is the same careless behavior 511 00:24:12,275 --> 00:24:14,172 she used on the ski slopes, 512 00:24:14,172 --> 00:24:16,896 causing her to run into Terry Sanderson. 513 00:24:16,896 --> 00:24:19,034 And the judge doesn't allow us to bring in 514 00:24:19,034 --> 00:24:22,482 other acts that a defendant in a civil case had done 515 00:24:22,482 --> 00:24:24,655 to show that they must have acted 516 00:24:24,655 --> 00:24:27,482 within that same propensity or character 517 00:24:27,482 --> 00:24:30,034 that they acted in a total unrelated manner. 518 00:24:30,034 --> 00:24:32,689 [Judge Holmburg] Ms. Vanorman, you may proceed. 519 00:24:32,689 --> 00:24:34,275 [Julia] Terry talks about the collision 520 00:24:34,275 --> 00:24:35,551 and he talked about his life 521 00:24:35,551 --> 00:24:37,758 after the collision. 522 00:24:37,758 --> 00:24:39,965 [Kristin] Have things in your life changed? 523 00:24:41,586 --> 00:24:43,793 [Terry] I'm like living another life now. 524 00:24:43,793 --> 00:24:46,000 I've been self-imposed... 525 00:24:48,586 --> 00:24:52,379 90% stayed in the house, a recluse. 526 00:24:52,379 --> 00:24:54,241 Self-imposed recluse, 527 00:24:54,241 --> 00:24:57,103 just not feeling as fun, 528 00:24:57,103 --> 00:24:59,137 not feeling as engaged in other things. 529 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,000 [Daniel B] He became emotional at points. 530 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,241 He went into extensive detail about the mental, 531 00:25:06,241 --> 00:25:08,551 physical, and other costs 532 00:25:08,551 --> 00:25:10,241 that had happened to him because of this. 533 00:25:11,241 --> 00:25:13,275 Let's talk about Karlene. 534 00:25:13,275 --> 00:25:16,379 We heard her testify last week. 535 00:25:16,379 --> 00:25:18,965 She's a catch. Why'd you let her go? 536 00:25:20,482 --> 00:25:23,241 In my choice, I wouldn't have but I had... 537 00:25:23,241 --> 00:25:25,896 After eight months, I had to tell her to leave. 538 00:25:25,896 --> 00:25:28,620 I'm not asking, now I'm telling you, you gotta leave. 539 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,586 [Daniel B] They were very much in love. 540 00:25:33,586 --> 00:25:35,275 They really cared for each other. 541 00:25:35,275 --> 00:25:37,586 But after the accident, Sanderson broke it off. 542 00:25:37,586 --> 00:25:39,000 He said something to the effect of, 543 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,034 "You don't want someone 544 00:25:40,034 --> 00:25:41,137 with brain damage like me. 545 00:25:41,137 --> 00:25:42,241 I'm no good to you. 546 00:25:42,241 --> 00:25:44,000 I can't carry on like this." 547 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,344 It was actually very moving. 548 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,172 [Judge Holmburg] Okay. We'll take a short recess. 549 00:25:50,172 --> 00:25:51,655 Okay. 550 00:25:53,655 --> 00:25:55,379 [Karlene] That was... That was tough. 551 00:25:55,379 --> 00:25:56,758 That was... 552 00:26:02,068 --> 00:26:03,758 Yeah, that was hard. 553 00:26:03,758 --> 00:26:05,206 I... 554 00:26:08,448 --> 00:26:10,172 Yeah, I didn't want that relationship 555 00:26:10,172 --> 00:26:12,896 to end and then, to see that afterwards 556 00:26:12,896 --> 00:26:15,172 maybe it didn't have to. 557 00:26:15,172 --> 00:26:17,758 I guess that was the harder part, not to... 558 00:26:19,586 --> 00:26:22,379 realize that something truly could've happened there 559 00:26:22,379 --> 00:26:24,689 but at some point, the, um, I could've stayed 560 00:26:24,689 --> 00:26:26,551 with the man that I adored. 561 00:26:29,034 --> 00:26:31,034 [Kristin] Why did you bring this lawsuit? 562 00:26:31,482 --> 00:26:33,000 My daddy would say, 563 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,896 if you got the truth, you bring the truth. 564 00:26:34,896 --> 00:26:36,758 Don't let anybody back it down. 565 00:26:36,758 --> 00:26:38,896 And that's what I felt I needed to do. 566 00:26:38,896 --> 00:26:41,965 And I'm here to prove that truth. 567 00:26:41,965 --> 00:26:44,275 Only the... With facts. 568 00:26:44,275 --> 00:26:46,103 [Kristin] That's all I have. Thank you. 569 00:26:46,103 --> 00:26:48,758 Mr. Sanderson, you can certainly step down. 570 00:26:53,172 --> 00:26:55,965 After that first week, it seemed that they 571 00:26:55,965 --> 00:26:57,965 had a strong case in front of them. 572 00:26:59,896 --> 00:27:02,034 [Daniel Woodruff speaking] 573 00:27:14,965 --> 00:27:16,344 [man] Gwyneth, comments? 574 00:27:17,172 --> 00:27:18,793 How'd you think today went? 575 00:27:18,793 --> 00:27:22,034 At the end of the day, the evidence, 576 00:27:22,034 --> 00:27:26,172 more likely than not, showed that Gwyneth Paltrow 577 00:27:26,172 --> 00:27:29,137 crashed into the back of Terry Sanderson 578 00:27:29,137 --> 00:27:32,310 and caused a permanent brain injury. 579 00:27:39,275 --> 00:27:40,689 [Julia] Things begin to shift 580 00:27:40,689 --> 00:27:42,689 for the plaintiffs on day four. 581 00:27:42,689 --> 00:27:44,965 They call to the stand the defendant in this case, 582 00:27:44,965 --> 00:27:46,172 the person they're suing. 583 00:27:46,793 --> 00:27:48,896 You may call your next witness. 584 00:27:48,896 --> 00:27:51,379 [Kristin] Your Honor, we'd like to call Gwyneth Paltrow. 585 00:27:51,379 --> 00:27:52,482 [Judge Holmburg] Thank you. 586 00:27:52,482 --> 00:27:54,172 This case, Gwyneth Paltrow 587 00:27:54,172 --> 00:27:57,172 took the stand as Terry Sanderson's witness 588 00:27:57,172 --> 00:27:59,793 and she told the exact opposite story. 589 00:27:59,793 --> 00:28:02,655 And in her testimony seemed to shift things. 590 00:28:11,034 --> 00:28:12,758 One, two, one, two, Julia's mic. 591 00:28:12,758 --> 00:28:14,482 One, two. One, two. 592 00:28:14,482 --> 00:28:17,758 We are covering the case of Gwyneth Paltrow 593 00:28:17,758 --> 00:28:20,206 who's being sued by a retired optometrist, 594 00:28:20,965 --> 00:28:23,034 but it's only ever so often 595 00:28:23,034 --> 00:28:25,586 that we see these trials just take over 596 00:28:25,586 --> 00:28:27,793 the news cycle for all of the outlets 597 00:28:27,793 --> 00:28:30,000 not only at state but in the country, 598 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,586 even the international outlets 599 00:28:31,586 --> 00:28:33,241 were picking it up and paying attention 600 00:28:33,241 --> 00:28:34,379 to what was going to happen 601 00:28:34,379 --> 00:28:36,172 with this ski slope case. 602 00:28:36,172 --> 00:28:39,000 Breaking news, we'll take you to a Utah courtroom 603 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,793 now where actress Gwyneth Paltrow 604 00:28:40,793 --> 00:28:42,344 is testifying in her own defense. 605 00:28:42,344 --> 00:28:44,862 [reporter] Retired optometrist Terry Sanderson says 606 00:28:44,862 --> 00:28:47,241 the actress turned lifestyle influencer 607 00:28:47,241 --> 00:28:49,862 collided with him on the ski slopes of Utah 608 00:28:49,862 --> 00:28:51,448 where he sustained broken ribs 609 00:28:51,448 --> 00:28:53,344 and a brain injury. 610 00:28:53,344 --> 00:28:55,482 It was getting international attention. 611 00:28:55,482 --> 00:28:57,586 It was getting headlines all over the world 612 00:28:57,586 --> 00:28:59,482 and the UK and in Japan. 613 00:28:59,482 --> 00:29:01,586 Gwyneth Paltrow has told the jury 614 00:29:01,586 --> 00:29:04,000 that Mr. Sanderson crashed into her 615 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,689 and she'd fear that she was the victim 616 00:29:05,689 --> 00:29:06,965 of a deliberate assault. 617 00:29:10,586 --> 00:29:12,103 [Daniel B] The whole time it was on, 618 00:29:12,103 --> 00:29:14,034 coverage was everywhere. 619 00:29:14,034 --> 00:29:15,655 It was all over social media. 620 00:29:15,655 --> 00:29:17,448 It was just everywhere. 621 00:29:17,448 --> 00:29:20,241 I believe this trial is set to go for eight days, 622 00:29:20,241 --> 00:29:25,068 the Gwyneth Paltrow ski accident trial. 623 00:29:25,068 --> 00:29:27,965 Like most celebrity trials that are high profile 624 00:29:27,965 --> 00:29:29,448 and publicly streamed, 625 00:29:29,448 --> 00:29:31,517 it became the subject of many memes... 626 00:29:34,068 --> 00:29:36,275 which is why a lot of people, especially celebrities, 627 00:29:36,275 --> 00:29:38,655 don't wanna go into a very public trial 628 00:29:38,655 --> 00:29:40,482 because people are going to make memes, 629 00:29:40,482 --> 00:29:42,551 make fun of you, take things out of context. 630 00:29:45,758 --> 00:29:47,655 This was a big story primarily 631 00:29:47,655 --> 00:29:50,034 because we got to see an A-list celebrity 632 00:29:50,034 --> 00:29:52,344 in court answering questions under oath 633 00:29:52,344 --> 00:29:53,758 and she had to tell the truth. 634 00:29:54,586 --> 00:29:56,344 [Brian] It has been a remarkable day 635 00:29:56,344 --> 00:29:58,275 inside the courthouse. 636 00:29:58,275 --> 00:29:59,793 Gwyneth Paltrow sworn in 637 00:29:59,793 --> 00:30:02,448 shortly before 3:00 this afternoon. 638 00:30:02,448 --> 00:30:04,344 She was poised on the stand. 639 00:30:04,344 --> 00:30:05,862 [woman] Do you swear that the testimony 640 00:30:05,862 --> 00:30:07,551 you are about to give in the case now 641 00:30:07,551 --> 00:30:10,275 for the court will be the truth, the whole truth, 642 00:30:10,275 --> 00:30:12,344 and nothing but the truth, so help you God? 643 00:30:12,344 --> 00:30:13,896 -Uh-hmm. -[woman] Thank you. 644 00:30:13,896 --> 00:30:15,275 [Ruth] Paltrow was called as a witness 645 00:30:15,275 --> 00:30:16,689 for the plaintiffs. 646 00:30:16,689 --> 00:30:18,793 It's not a relaxing situation 647 00:30:18,793 --> 00:30:20,793 to be in a court before a jury, 648 00:30:20,793 --> 00:30:22,379 no matter if you're a Golden Globe 649 00:30:22,379 --> 00:30:24,448 or Academy Award winner. 650 00:30:24,448 --> 00:30:27,482 It's still nerve-racking. 651 00:30:27,482 --> 00:30:30,000 The outcome of this Paltrow ski trial 652 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,586 was really important to Gwyneth Paltrow's reputation. 653 00:30:32,586 --> 00:30:34,482 She definitely had a lot to lose. 654 00:30:34,482 --> 00:30:36,655 [tense music playing] 655 00:30:40,379 --> 00:30:41,862 [cameraman] Right there on that side. 656 00:30:41,862 --> 00:30:43,793 Beautiful. 657 00:30:43,793 --> 00:30:46,551 Gwyneth Paltrow can actually be a polarizing figure, 658 00:30:46,551 --> 00:30:48,137 even though she's America's good girl. 659 00:30:49,482 --> 00:30:51,379 [Daniel B] In 2013, Paltrow was voted 660 00:30:51,379 --> 00:30:52,862 the most hated celebrity 661 00:30:52,862 --> 00:30:54,172 in the world by Star Magazine. 662 00:30:54,172 --> 00:30:55,448 In the same year, she was voted 663 00:30:55,448 --> 00:30:56,758 the most beautiful celebrity 664 00:30:56,758 --> 00:30:58,034 in the world by People Magazine. 665 00:30:58,034 --> 00:30:59,655 And the two are related. 666 00:30:59,655 --> 00:31:01,241 There's a set amount of tearing down 667 00:31:01,241 --> 00:31:02,758 someone who's beautiful and successful. 668 00:31:03,965 --> 00:31:05,689 There are people who love to hate her 669 00:31:05,689 --> 00:31:07,689 and that could play against her 670 00:31:07,689 --> 00:31:10,172 inside of a courtroom. 671 00:31:10,172 --> 00:31:11,758 I do think that her reputation 672 00:31:11,758 --> 00:31:13,379 was a little bit mixed, or was she just 673 00:31:13,379 --> 00:31:15,172 an aloof celebrity that lived 674 00:31:15,172 --> 00:31:17,689 in a world nobody else could imagine? 675 00:31:17,689 --> 00:31:20,586 [Daniel B] She is best known for being an actor 676 00:31:20,586 --> 00:31:22,482 who won an Oscar in 1999 677 00:31:22,482 --> 00:31:24,103 for her role Shakespeare In Love. 678 00:31:25,758 --> 00:31:27,000 In recent years, she's taken 679 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,000 a step back from acting. 680 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,586 It's interesting for me because I really don't think 681 00:31:31,586 --> 00:31:34,655 of myself much as a woman in Hollywood anymore. 682 00:31:34,655 --> 00:31:37,793 I kind of have a whole other job. 683 00:31:37,793 --> 00:31:39,689 [Daniel B] She has two kids, Apple and Moses, 684 00:31:39,689 --> 00:31:42,275 with Chris Martin, the singer from Coldplay. 685 00:31:42,275 --> 00:31:45,379 And she's now married for a second time to Brad Falchuk. 686 00:31:45,379 --> 00:31:48,689 Her priorities have been her family, Goop, 687 00:31:48,689 --> 00:31:51,068 and you see that from her posts on Instagram. 688 00:31:51,068 --> 00:31:53,275 I think for her, it's more important to be there, 689 00:31:53,275 --> 00:31:55,482 be a mom, be around her kids 690 00:31:55,482 --> 00:31:57,793 and not necessarily be a kind of, you know, 691 00:31:57,793 --> 00:31:59,517 walking the red carpet celebrity. 692 00:32:05,379 --> 00:32:07,344 [Gwyneth] I do have one going off to college. 693 00:32:07,344 --> 00:32:09,275 You realize how finite, 694 00:32:09,275 --> 00:32:10,862 it went so quickly. 695 00:32:10,862 --> 00:32:14,482 I feel very blessed that I've been able 696 00:32:14,482 --> 00:32:16,689 to try to pursue this other career 697 00:32:16,689 --> 00:32:18,586 and kind of like keep hours, 698 00:32:18,586 --> 00:32:20,103 you know, where I'm able to be home 699 00:32:20,103 --> 00:32:21,655 and make them dinner and stuff like that. 700 00:32:28,793 --> 00:32:31,551 Gwyneth Paltrow was at the Deer Valley Resort 701 00:32:31,551 --> 00:32:33,103 with her two children. 702 00:32:33,103 --> 00:32:35,448 She was there with her partner Brad Falchuk 703 00:32:35,448 --> 00:32:36,862 and his two children. 704 00:32:36,862 --> 00:32:38,793 This was a significant trip for us. 705 00:32:38,793 --> 00:32:41,000 That was the first time Brad and I were... 706 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,275 introducing our kids 707 00:32:42,275 --> 00:32:44,896 and doing something together 708 00:32:44,896 --> 00:32:48,103 as to see if we could blend families. 709 00:32:48,103 --> 00:32:50,689 And this was their opportunity to bond 710 00:32:50,689 --> 00:32:52,896 and ski together over an activity 711 00:32:52,896 --> 00:32:55,068 that she also bonded with family over. 712 00:32:57,172 --> 00:32:59,275 That kind of testimony elicited, 713 00:32:59,275 --> 00:33:01,241 uh, an emotional reaction in the jury 714 00:33:01,241 --> 00:33:03,586 that they saw her now as one of them, 715 00:33:03,586 --> 00:33:05,172 that this brought her down to their level 716 00:33:05,172 --> 00:33:07,586 and made her seem like a normal person. 717 00:33:07,586 --> 00:33:09,551 [woman] Hand you a copy of your deposition. 718 00:33:09,551 --> 00:33:13,172 I'm gonna need my reading glasses, unfortunately. 719 00:33:15,862 --> 00:33:17,793 Sorry about that. 720 00:33:17,793 --> 00:33:20,655 [Peter] I think her reputation is important as a celebrity. 721 00:33:20,655 --> 00:33:23,344 I think she probably wanted to set the record straight 722 00:33:23,344 --> 00:33:25,241 that she did not cause this accident 723 00:33:25,241 --> 00:33:27,551 and actually Terry Sanderson ran into her. 724 00:33:28,586 --> 00:33:30,965 I was skiing and two skis came 725 00:33:30,965 --> 00:33:32,448 between my skis, 726 00:33:32,448 --> 00:33:34,000 forcing my legs apart. 727 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,275 And then there was a body pressing against me 728 00:33:37,275 --> 00:33:40,551 and there was a very strange grunting noise. 729 00:33:42,172 --> 00:33:43,758 Is this a practical joke? 730 00:33:43,758 --> 00:33:46,344 Is someone like doing something perverted? 731 00:33:46,344 --> 00:33:48,206 This is really, really strange. 732 00:33:49,379 --> 00:33:51,448 When something like that happens where you feel like 733 00:33:51,448 --> 00:33:53,448 you're being sexually assaulted, 734 00:33:53,448 --> 00:33:55,482 that's a different kind of memory. 735 00:33:55,482 --> 00:33:56,965 That's a different kind of thing 736 00:33:56,965 --> 00:33:58,896 where you're gonna always be 737 00:33:58,896 --> 00:34:00,344 traumatized by that. 738 00:34:00,344 --> 00:34:01,793 [woman] You're not saying to the jury 739 00:34:01,793 --> 00:34:03,551 that this was in any way, shape, or form 740 00:34:03,551 --> 00:34:04,551 a sexual assault? 741 00:34:04,551 --> 00:34:06,379 -I am not saying that. -[woman] Okay. 742 00:34:06,379 --> 00:34:08,344 I'm just saying what went through my mind 743 00:34:08,344 --> 00:34:10,724 for a split second when it was happening. 744 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,000 When you factor in the testimony about 745 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,000 how she experienced the hit and how scared she was, 746 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,655 I think it's more likely than not that he hit her. 747 00:34:21,482 --> 00:34:23,585 From day one from six years ago, 748 00:34:23,585 --> 00:34:25,447 she's saying, "Somebody hit me." 749 00:34:25,447 --> 00:34:27,103 She's never changed her story. 750 00:34:27,965 --> 00:34:31,688 Were you planning to ski the whole day? 751 00:34:31,688 --> 00:34:34,000 -I was. -[Stephen] And did you send 752 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,103 a little text, uh, after lunch? 753 00:34:37,688 --> 00:34:38,724 Yes. 754 00:34:39,447 --> 00:34:41,103 Contemporaneous statements 755 00:34:41,103 --> 00:34:44,000 are so much more valuable and credible 756 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,585 than statements that somebody may make at trial. 757 00:34:46,585 --> 00:34:47,965 [Stephen] Can you read it? 758 00:34:47,965 --> 00:34:49,447 [Gwyneth] It says, "I came in. 759 00:34:49,447 --> 00:34:50,793 That guy sort of hurt me. 760 00:34:50,793 --> 00:34:52,551 I'm gonna get a massage at 3:00. 761 00:34:52,551 --> 00:34:55,000 Gigi is here if he wants to come." 762 00:34:57,862 --> 00:34:59,275 So when you have a text message 763 00:34:59,275 --> 00:35:00,965 from Gwyneth Paltrow just hours 764 00:35:00,965 --> 00:35:03,758 after the accident saying that this guy hit me, 765 00:35:03,758 --> 00:35:06,172 that tells the jury that from the jump, 766 00:35:06,172 --> 00:35:08,689 Gwyneth Paltrow believed Terry Sanderson 767 00:35:08,689 --> 00:35:10,000 was at fault for this accident. 768 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,172 Do you feel some empathy 769 00:35:11,172 --> 00:35:13,241 for Mr. Sanderson 770 00:35:13,241 --> 00:35:16,275 and his declining brain? 771 00:35:16,275 --> 00:35:17,586 [Gwyneth] You know, I really do. 772 00:35:17,586 --> 00:35:19,862 I feel very sorry for him. 773 00:35:19,862 --> 00:35:23,586 It seems like he's had a very difficult life, 774 00:35:23,586 --> 00:35:26,379 but I did not cause the accident. 775 00:35:26,379 --> 00:35:28,655 So, I cannot be at fault for anything 776 00:35:28,655 --> 00:35:31,000 that subsequently happened to him. 777 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,551 Gwyneth Paltrow did not seem dismissive 778 00:35:35,551 --> 00:35:37,172 to Terry's injuries 779 00:35:37,172 --> 00:35:39,689 or anything caused by the accident. 780 00:35:39,689 --> 00:35:41,551 However, she was very clear 781 00:35:41,551 --> 00:35:44,241 that this accident was not her fault. 782 00:35:46,965 --> 00:35:49,172 The defense team really leaned into this idea 783 00:35:49,172 --> 00:35:52,344 that Paltrow had been targeted for being a celebrity. 784 00:35:52,344 --> 00:35:55,551 [suspenseful music playing] 785 00:35:58,172 --> 00:36:02,103 There is a new piece of evidence in this case, 786 00:36:02,103 --> 00:36:05,000 that's the Mr. Sanderson email to his daughters 787 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,448 on the day of the accident, 788 00:36:10,068 --> 00:36:13,344 The defense team had this very revealing email 789 00:36:13,344 --> 00:36:14,965 from Terry Sanderson 790 00:36:14,965 --> 00:36:18,275 where he told other people, "I'm famous." 791 00:36:18,275 --> 00:36:22,137 This is following his collision with Paltrow. 792 00:36:22,137 --> 00:36:24,275 [Stephen] Did you ever say to me, 793 00:36:24,275 --> 00:36:27,482 I wrote, I'm famous... 794 00:36:27,482 --> 00:36:30,862 'cause it's cool that I had a collision with a celebrity? 795 00:36:33,275 --> 00:36:36,103 I... Not if you have it on record, no. 796 00:36:36,103 --> 00:36:37,517 I don't deny it. I don't remember it. 797 00:36:38,172 --> 00:36:41,655 [suspenseful music playing] 798 00:36:41,655 --> 00:36:44,689 It gave the defense a lot of fodder 799 00:36:44,689 --> 00:36:46,793 in front of the jury to make it look like 800 00:36:46,793 --> 00:36:48,793 their theme of the case was correct, 801 00:36:48,793 --> 00:36:50,896 that Terry Sanderson was looking to be famous 802 00:36:50,896 --> 00:36:52,482 and was looking to chase a celebrity 803 00:36:52,482 --> 00:36:55,172 and which is why he was suing Gwyneth Paltrow. 804 00:36:55,172 --> 00:36:57,379 [Stephen] But it was you, right? 805 00:36:57,379 --> 00:36:58,551 -Right. -[Stephen] Just to be clear, 806 00:36:58,551 --> 00:37:00,172 when you say it wasn't me, 807 00:37:00,172 --> 00:37:02,068 it was in fact you? 808 00:37:02,068 --> 00:37:03,793 It's the other personality 809 00:37:03,793 --> 00:37:05,655 that's inhabiting my body right now. 810 00:37:07,862 --> 00:37:09,689 Whether this would've gone this far, 811 00:37:09,689 --> 00:37:12,482 if it was me that ran into him, I'd say no. 812 00:37:12,482 --> 00:37:14,482 But the fact that it was Gwyneth Paltrow 813 00:37:14,482 --> 00:37:16,655 certainly perpetuated this forward. 814 00:37:18,103 --> 00:37:19,793 [Julia] It was a theme of the defense 815 00:37:19,793 --> 00:37:21,275 even in their cross-examination 816 00:37:21,275 --> 00:37:23,551 of Craig Ramon, the eyewitness. 817 00:37:25,379 --> 00:37:27,586 They were able to show his messages 818 00:37:27,586 --> 00:37:29,172 where the defense team argued 819 00:37:29,172 --> 00:37:31,482 that it all seemed to be fixated on the fact 820 00:37:31,482 --> 00:37:33,000 that this was a celebrity 821 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,379 they'd had this chance encounter with 822 00:37:35,379 --> 00:37:37,241 and wanting to make her pay 823 00:37:37,241 --> 00:37:40,482 for what they alleged she did to Terry Sanderson. 824 00:37:40,482 --> 00:37:44,172 [suspenseful music playing] 825 00:37:44,172 --> 00:37:45,896 [Stephen] Um, Mr. Ramon, Steve Owens. 826 00:37:45,896 --> 00:37:47,931 -We've met before, correct? -Yes. 827 00:37:48,758 --> 00:37:49,896 [Peter] Part of a juror's job 828 00:37:49,896 --> 00:37:51,827 is to judge the credibility of witnesses. 829 00:37:52,793 --> 00:37:54,379 There were really only two witnesses 830 00:37:54,379 --> 00:37:56,310 that heard or saw the events. 831 00:37:57,068 --> 00:37:58,448 That was Eric Christiansen, 832 00:37:58,448 --> 00:38:00,172 Gwyneth Paltrow's longtime ski instructor, 833 00:38:00,172 --> 00:38:02,000 and Craig Ramon, 834 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,586 Mr. Sanderson's friend. 835 00:38:03,586 --> 00:38:06,379 In fact, uh, I took a long deposition 836 00:38:06,379 --> 00:38:09,034 of you and a long statement several years ago. 837 00:38:09,034 --> 00:38:10,551 -True? -Mmm-hmm. 838 00:38:10,551 --> 00:38:12,068 Did you once... 839 00:38:12,586 --> 00:38:15,034 in that deposition say... 840 00:38:15,586 --> 00:38:18,000 that Eric Christiansen 841 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:22,655 told you that Gwyneth took Terry out? 842 00:38:25,448 --> 00:38:26,448 No. 843 00:38:28,275 --> 00:38:31,689 Craig Ramon became very flustered 844 00:38:31,689 --> 00:38:33,344 in his cross-examination. 845 00:38:33,344 --> 00:38:36,206 A lot of his answers to questions were changing. 846 00:38:37,275 --> 00:38:39,241 [Stephen] Did you say that today? 847 00:38:40,482 --> 00:38:42,275 [Craig] Uh, no. 848 00:38:42,275 --> 00:38:43,793 What I... What I meant to say, 849 00:38:43,793 --> 00:38:47,068 I get dyslexic when I get nervous. 850 00:38:47,068 --> 00:38:49,862 No. He said that your buddy just took out Gwyneth. 851 00:38:49,862 --> 00:38:52,103 [Stephen] Okay. So, Christiansen 852 00:38:52,103 --> 00:38:55,275 always said your buddy... 853 00:38:55,275 --> 00:38:56,965 took out Gwyneth Paltrow, right? 854 00:38:56,965 --> 00:38:58,068 -[Craig] Yes. -All right. 855 00:38:58,068 --> 00:39:01,103 [suspenseful music playing] 856 00:39:06,758 --> 00:39:10,000 So, it was really hard for the jury 857 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,137 to understand what was the truth 858 00:39:13,137 --> 00:39:15,103 from Craig Ramon's testimony. 859 00:39:15,103 --> 00:39:18,241 [suspenseful music playing] 860 00:39:21,655 --> 00:39:23,655 Eric Christiansen was able to talk about 861 00:39:23,655 --> 00:39:26,172 what happened just before he said Paltrow 862 00:39:26,172 --> 00:39:27,758 was skiing perfectly, 863 00:39:27,758 --> 00:39:29,482 that he turned his head 864 00:39:29,482 --> 00:39:31,655 before the moment of collision. 865 00:39:31,655 --> 00:39:34,379 Mr. Sanderson was skiing down, 866 00:39:34,379 --> 00:39:37,379 making fairly large turns, 867 00:39:37,379 --> 00:39:40,034 and he had accumulated a fair amount of speed. 868 00:39:40,034 --> 00:39:42,551 At that point, he was very close 869 00:39:42,551 --> 00:39:44,344 to Ms. Paltrow 870 00:39:44,896 --> 00:39:47,379 and, uh, I looked away. 871 00:39:47,379 --> 00:39:50,379 I did not actually see the collision, 872 00:39:50,379 --> 00:39:52,241 but I heard her scream. 873 00:39:52,241 --> 00:39:54,068 And that's when I looked up. 874 00:39:55,586 --> 00:39:57,793 [Samantha] His story was consistent. 875 00:39:57,793 --> 00:40:00,241 He never claimed he saw the accident. 876 00:40:00,241 --> 00:40:02,965 He always said, "I heard and I turned, 877 00:40:02,965 --> 00:40:04,379 and this is what I saw." 878 00:40:04,379 --> 00:40:07,689 Did you hear Mr. Sanderson 879 00:40:07,689 --> 00:40:10,172 say anything during the entire incident? 880 00:40:10,172 --> 00:40:12,793 He simply said, "I'm sorry. I'm sorry." 881 00:40:12,793 --> 00:40:15,000 Uh, but then he also 882 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,482 made a statement about, 883 00:40:16,482 --> 00:40:18,448 "She just appeared in front of me." 884 00:40:20,344 --> 00:40:22,896 This is something that the jury was going to have 885 00:40:22,896 --> 00:40:26,482 to determine, which party was at the top 886 00:40:26,482 --> 00:40:28,448 and which one had the right-of-way, 887 00:40:28,448 --> 00:40:29,724 uh, at the bottom. 888 00:40:30,551 --> 00:40:31,965 In the skier's code, 889 00:40:31,965 --> 00:40:34,344 the most important role 890 00:40:34,344 --> 00:40:36,344 is that if you're the uphill skier, 891 00:40:36,344 --> 00:40:39,172 you need to always be looking downhill 892 00:40:39,172 --> 00:40:42,241 and avoiding the path of the downhill skier 893 00:40:42,241 --> 00:40:43,448 to prevent collision. 894 00:40:44,586 --> 00:40:46,103 [Stephen] Okay. You remember those words? 895 00:40:46,103 --> 00:40:48,000 -Yes. -[Stephen] What would that 896 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,034 indicate to you in terms of who was the uphill skier? 897 00:40:51,896 --> 00:40:56,655 It'd be very difficult to be underneath her 898 00:40:56,655 --> 00:40:59,413 if he hadn't hit her from behind. 899 00:41:01,689 --> 00:41:03,793 [Ruth] You had Dr. Sanderson indicating 900 00:41:03,793 --> 00:41:05,586 that he was downhill. 901 00:41:05,586 --> 00:41:08,000 You have Ms. Paltrow indicating she was downhill. 902 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,379 And obviously based on the laws of physics, 903 00:41:10,379 --> 00:41:12,413 they can't both be uphill of each other. 904 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,827 [suspenseful music playing] 905 00:41:29,310 --> 00:41:33,000 In the first week, I would say approximately 90% 906 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,620 of the testimony was in regards 907 00:41:35,620 --> 00:41:37,827 to Terry Sanderson's health conditions. 908 00:41:39,620 --> 00:41:42,206 The central argument was that the collision 909 00:41:42,206 --> 00:41:45,724 had essentially debilitated his life. 910 00:41:45,724 --> 00:41:49,206 The most common argument any defense attorney makes 911 00:41:49,206 --> 00:41:52,206 with causation of damages and the damages themselves 912 00:41:52,206 --> 00:41:53,517 is that they were already there. 913 00:41:53,517 --> 00:41:55,103 They were pre-existing. 914 00:41:57,344 --> 00:42:00,655 Stephen Owens was really able to counter 915 00:42:00,655 --> 00:42:02,827 almost everything that the plaintiffs brought 916 00:42:02,827 --> 00:42:04,862 in their case in chief 917 00:42:04,862 --> 00:42:07,068 when it came to these injuries. 918 00:42:07,068 --> 00:42:08,793 [Dr. Hoesch] The head injury was very mild. 919 00:42:08,793 --> 00:42:12,793 I mean, it fell in the most mild category of concussion. 920 00:42:12,793 --> 00:42:16,275 There were no clear signs like dizziness, nausea, 921 00:42:16,275 --> 00:42:19,724 um, vomiting, any double or blurry vision. 922 00:42:19,724 --> 00:42:22,137 He emphatically states there is no evidence 923 00:42:22,137 --> 00:42:25,172 of post-traumatic brain injury in his report. 924 00:42:25,172 --> 00:42:27,724 [Stephen] Do you believe he had a concussion? 925 00:42:27,724 --> 00:42:28,931 It's questionable. 926 00:42:29,862 --> 00:42:32,103 That's all. Thank you. 927 00:42:32,103 --> 00:42:34,275 When you say you have a permanent brain injury 928 00:42:34,275 --> 00:42:36,896 that ruined your life, you open the door 929 00:42:36,896 --> 00:42:38,586 to the defense showing your life 930 00:42:38,586 --> 00:42:39,896 really isn't that different. 931 00:42:39,896 --> 00:42:41,827 Mr. Owens, you may proceed. 932 00:42:42,482 --> 00:42:44,413 Oh, [indistinct] 933 00:42:45,344 --> 00:42:46,862 Then during the cross-examination 934 00:42:46,862 --> 00:42:48,000 of Terry Sanderson, 935 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,000 Owens pulls out these pictures. 936 00:42:52,379 --> 00:42:56,068 All of these pictures are from your personal Facebook 937 00:42:56,068 --> 00:42:57,827 -after the collision. -[Terry] Okay. 938 00:42:57,827 --> 00:43:00,137 [Stephen] Okay. Page 63. 939 00:43:00,137 --> 00:43:04,241 Is this you skiing after the collision? 940 00:43:04,241 --> 00:43:06,034 [Terry] Um, it could be. 941 00:43:06,034 --> 00:43:08,862 [Stephen] Well, I... I'm asserting 942 00:43:08,862 --> 00:43:11,137 that this is you skiing after the collision. 943 00:43:11,137 --> 00:43:12,655 Do you dispute it? 944 00:43:12,655 --> 00:43:15,862 [Terry] It was that following year. 945 00:43:15,862 --> 00:43:17,379 I don't dispute it. 946 00:43:21,586 --> 00:43:25,000 Owens has pictures of Terry on trips 947 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,034 from all of these different countries 948 00:43:28,034 --> 00:43:31,068 and he was able to show him happy and enjoying himself. 949 00:43:31,068 --> 00:43:32,620 [Stephen] Every one of these pictures 950 00:43:32,620 --> 00:43:34,275 is after the collision. 951 00:43:34,275 --> 00:43:35,758 Page 73. 952 00:43:35,758 --> 00:43:38,310 Is this you on a bike ride 953 00:43:38,310 --> 00:43:41,586 -looking fit and happy, yes? -[Terry] Yes. 954 00:43:41,586 --> 00:43:44,068 [Stephen] Eighty. Are you in this river cruise, 955 00:43:44,068 --> 00:43:45,137 river boat? 956 00:43:45,137 --> 00:43:46,517 I believe so. 957 00:43:46,517 --> 00:43:49,172 -[Stephen] Okay. -[Terry] Yeah. 958 00:43:49,172 --> 00:43:51,344 When a plaintiff makes a statement, 959 00:43:51,344 --> 00:43:54,068 it better be true because if it's not 960 00:43:54,068 --> 00:43:55,896 and the defense can prove it's not true, 961 00:43:55,896 --> 00:43:57,827 you'll lose credibility for everything else. 962 00:43:59,517 --> 00:44:01,241 [Julia] If the jurors hadn't made up their mind 963 00:44:01,241 --> 00:44:03,137 by that point about liability, 964 00:44:03,137 --> 00:44:05,137 they had after all those photos. 965 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,758 The picture that was painted this man 966 00:44:09,758 --> 00:44:11,724 that was unable to travel, 967 00:44:11,724 --> 00:44:14,827 unable to function, didn't have friends, 968 00:44:14,827 --> 00:44:19,068 yet he's traveling the world, it didn't add up. 969 00:44:19,068 --> 00:44:20,862 [Stephen] No more questions, Your Honor. 970 00:44:20,862 --> 00:44:22,310 [Judge Holmburg] Okay. Thank you, Mr. Sanderson. 971 00:44:22,310 --> 00:44:23,448 Thank you. 972 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,206 Steve Owen and his team did a good job 973 00:44:29,206 --> 00:44:32,413 of presenting experts as well as fact witnesses 974 00:44:32,413 --> 00:44:36,689 to turn Sanderson's story 180 degrees. 975 00:44:36,689 --> 00:44:39,827 [dramatic music playing] 976 00:44:41,758 --> 00:44:44,586 Let's begin just by just asking you 977 00:44:44,586 --> 00:44:48,241 what you understand your role here to be today. 978 00:44:48,241 --> 00:44:51,620 To teach the jury about biomechanical engineering 979 00:44:51,620 --> 00:44:55,344 related to snow sports, in particular, skiing. 980 00:44:55,344 --> 00:44:57,827 Dr. Scher used an animation 981 00:44:57,827 --> 00:44:59,689 of what we call demonstrative exhibits. 982 00:45:02,103 --> 00:45:03,758 [Julia] This animation was perhaps 983 00:45:03,758 --> 00:45:06,862 the most talked about part of the trial. 984 00:45:06,862 --> 00:45:09,965 It showed you what it likely looked like 985 00:45:09,965 --> 00:45:12,034 when this collision happened. 986 00:45:12,034 --> 00:45:14,206 [Dr. Scher] It's her testimony 987 00:45:14,206 --> 00:45:17,586 that his skis slid between hers. 988 00:45:17,586 --> 00:45:22,206 She felt a contact directly in the back, along her back, 989 00:45:22,206 --> 00:45:25,793 but they were on their skids for a period of time. 990 00:45:25,793 --> 00:45:27,172 So as she's rotating 991 00:45:27,172 --> 00:45:28,862 and he's rotating counterclockwise, 992 00:45:28,862 --> 00:45:30,379 they fall at the side. 993 00:45:30,379 --> 00:45:32,413 As they hit the snow, 994 00:45:32,413 --> 00:45:33,896 they would continue to move forward 995 00:45:33,896 --> 00:45:36,620 until friction slows them down. 996 00:45:37,931 --> 00:45:40,275 Logically speaking, this video not only lines up 997 00:45:40,275 --> 00:45:42,137 with what Gwyneth Paltrow said, 998 00:45:42,137 --> 00:45:45,379 but what Eric Christiansen said and what Dr. Scher said. 999 00:45:45,379 --> 00:45:47,206 I think once you see it 1000 00:45:47,206 --> 00:45:49,448 and you see it all happen and how the bodies move, 1001 00:45:49,448 --> 00:45:51,137 and how the collision happens, 1002 00:45:51,137 --> 00:45:53,620 that's something that can stick in your brain. 1003 00:45:53,620 --> 00:45:55,758 That's really damning for Terry Sanderson's team. 1004 00:45:57,068 --> 00:46:00,172 [dramatic music playing] 1005 00:46:02,034 --> 00:46:03,655 I was ordered not to talk 1006 00:46:03,655 --> 00:46:05,896 about the case to my family, 1007 00:46:05,896 --> 00:46:08,344 friends, co-workers, anybody. 1008 00:46:08,344 --> 00:46:12,482 So I recorded myself every day 1009 00:46:12,482 --> 00:46:14,620 just to remember 1010 00:46:14,620 --> 00:46:17,137 and just to have somebody to talk to. 1011 00:46:17,137 --> 00:46:20,310 But yesterday, we had a really interesting turn 1012 00:46:20,310 --> 00:46:23,275 because we had a biomechanical engineer 1013 00:46:23,275 --> 00:46:26,413 who made Gwyneth's very odd story 1014 00:46:26,413 --> 00:46:28,137 made a little more sense. 1015 00:46:28,137 --> 00:46:30,551 The animation was demonstrative evidence, 1016 00:46:30,551 --> 00:46:32,413 meaning that we couldn't really 1017 00:46:32,413 --> 00:46:34,379 consider that as evidence 1018 00:46:34,379 --> 00:46:37,103 but it did help the jury to just vision 1019 00:46:37,103 --> 00:46:39,482 what we had already thought was happening. 1020 00:46:40,827 --> 00:46:42,517 I was surprised that Bob Sykes 1021 00:46:42,517 --> 00:46:45,965 and Dr. Sanderson did not have a demonstrative exhibit 1022 00:46:45,965 --> 00:46:47,551 to support his version. 1023 00:46:47,551 --> 00:46:49,379 And it could've just been a strategy on their part, 1024 00:46:49,379 --> 00:46:52,551 but I do think it was a mistake. 1025 00:46:57,758 --> 00:46:59,793 [dramatic music playing] 1026 00:47:04,034 --> 00:47:06,310 One of the reasons why the case was brought 1027 00:47:06,310 --> 00:47:08,068 in Park City 1028 00:47:08,068 --> 00:47:10,896 was because the ski resort 1029 00:47:10,896 --> 00:47:14,793 was domiciled here in Summit County. 1030 00:47:16,206 --> 00:47:18,034 Deer Valley is very, very exclusive. 1031 00:47:18,034 --> 00:47:19,275 As we heard during the trial, 1032 00:47:19,275 --> 00:47:21,034 the ski lessons for Paltrow's two kids 1033 00:47:21,034 --> 00:47:24,241 over the course of just a few days cost $9,000, 1034 00:47:24,241 --> 00:47:25,482 which gives you an idea 1035 00:47:25,482 --> 00:47:27,344 of how expensive this place is. 1036 00:47:28,724 --> 00:47:30,862 [Bruce] Park City is a resort town 1037 00:47:30,862 --> 00:47:33,172 and most of the jury pool 1038 00:47:33,172 --> 00:47:36,103 is gonna have some connection with skiing. 1039 00:47:36,103 --> 00:47:38,172 And there are actually voir dire instructions 1040 00:47:38,172 --> 00:47:43,344 to try to address those sentiments by jurors. 1041 00:47:43,344 --> 00:47:46,758 The whole voir dire process is to try to ferret that out. 1042 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,413 [Samantha] Skiing is the number one reason 1043 00:47:50,413 --> 00:47:51,896 that people visit Park city. 1044 00:47:51,896 --> 00:47:54,896 It's a huge part of our economy, 1045 00:47:54,896 --> 00:47:58,517 our jobs are all related to skiing. 1046 00:48:00,344 --> 00:48:01,931 [Karlene] I believe that the jury 1047 00:48:01,931 --> 00:48:05,241 had to be slanted in their opinions. 1048 00:48:05,241 --> 00:48:09,241 They were skiers and part of the Deer Valley community. 1049 00:48:09,241 --> 00:48:12,103 Park City didn't wanna lose their celebrity status 1050 00:48:12,103 --> 00:48:14,517 of stars coming in and participating 1051 00:48:14,517 --> 00:48:16,241 in what it is they had to offer there 1052 00:48:16,241 --> 00:48:17,827 at Deer Valley and Park City. 1053 00:48:19,551 --> 00:48:21,275 If a large jury award 1054 00:48:21,275 --> 00:48:24,517 is rendered against a local entity, 1055 00:48:24,517 --> 00:48:26,896 it may have some effect on the economy, 1056 00:48:26,896 --> 00:48:29,724 so that could be a disadvantage 1057 00:48:29,724 --> 00:48:31,448 for Terry Sanderson. 1058 00:48:31,448 --> 00:48:34,586 [dramatic music playing] 1059 00:48:37,379 --> 00:48:39,586 [Daniel W] So a long day of testimony today 1060 00:48:39,586 --> 00:48:41,000 here in Park City. 1061 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,689 It will continue tomorrow. 1062 00:48:42,689 --> 00:48:45,655 We do expect the jury may get the case to begin 1063 00:48:45,655 --> 00:48:48,310 deliberating sometime later on Thursday. 1064 00:48:48,310 --> 00:48:51,448 [dramatic music playing] 1065 00:48:52,655 --> 00:48:55,137 After eight days of hearing testimony 1066 00:48:55,137 --> 00:48:57,310 in this case from witnesses, 1067 00:48:57,310 --> 00:49:00,137 jury then retired to deliberate this case. 1068 00:49:00,137 --> 00:49:03,448 [dramatic music playing] 1069 00:49:03,448 --> 00:49:04,620 Members of the jury, 1070 00:49:04,620 --> 00:49:06,965 you have now received all of the evidence. 1071 00:49:08,241 --> 00:49:10,482 Finally, you will go to the jury room 1072 00:49:10,482 --> 00:49:11,862 to decide the case. 1073 00:49:11,862 --> 00:49:14,586 [dramatic music playing] 1074 00:49:17,206 --> 00:49:19,413 During these eight days, I have never felt 1075 00:49:19,413 --> 00:49:21,827 such a heavy weight on my shoulders 1076 00:49:21,827 --> 00:49:24,551 knowing I'd have to go through all of this evaluation 1077 00:49:24,551 --> 00:49:28,068 and determine who was lying and who was telling the truth. 1078 00:49:28,068 --> 00:49:31,344 [dramatic music playing] 1079 00:49:31,344 --> 00:49:34,827 [Julia] The jury had options when it came to this verdict. 1080 00:49:34,827 --> 00:49:37,586 They could either find Gwyneth Paltrow 1081 00:49:37,586 --> 00:49:41,000 liable for the damages that she was accused of. 1082 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,620 They could find Terry Sanderson 1083 00:49:43,620 --> 00:49:45,034 liable of the injuries 1084 00:49:45,034 --> 00:49:49,034 that he claimed Paltrow committed against him. 1085 00:49:49,034 --> 00:49:53,000 [dramatic music playing] 1086 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,448 [Samantha] We were in deliberation 1087 00:49:54,448 --> 00:49:56,655 for approximately two hours. 1088 00:49:56,655 --> 00:49:58,620 The first portion was determining 1089 00:49:58,620 --> 00:50:01,241 who was at fault for the accident. 1090 00:50:02,241 --> 00:50:04,482 Second portion was determining 1091 00:50:04,482 --> 00:50:07,379 what percentage of fault was to be awarded. 1092 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,103 [Julia] When a jury deliberates for two hours 1093 00:50:13,103 --> 00:50:15,137 after such a lengthy trial, 1094 00:50:15,137 --> 00:50:17,965 that tells me that they knew going in pretty much 1095 00:50:17,965 --> 00:50:19,689 what they were going to decide. 1096 00:50:22,103 --> 00:50:25,586 It was surprising to see everyone 1097 00:50:25,586 --> 00:50:27,206 was on the same page. 1098 00:50:29,275 --> 00:50:31,379 There was a lot at stake 1099 00:50:31,379 --> 00:50:33,241 as far as Gwyneth Paltrow was concerned 1100 00:50:33,241 --> 00:50:36,000 because if the ruling went against her, 1101 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:37,517 people are going to think, 1102 00:50:37,517 --> 00:50:39,793 "Why are you not just settling this case? 1103 00:50:39,793 --> 00:50:42,793 Why did you let this go all the way to trial?" 1104 00:50:44,758 --> 00:50:46,206 [Bruce] This is a man's life 1105 00:50:46,206 --> 00:50:48,689 that was permanently changed by this. 1106 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,137 I can't imagine that he would've wanted 1107 00:50:52,137 --> 00:50:54,172 to go through this 1108 00:50:54,172 --> 00:50:57,793 just to face this ridicule because he was not serious 1109 00:50:57,793 --> 00:50:59,379 about what happened to him. 1110 00:51:00,724 --> 00:51:03,620 [man] We'll now have the clerk read the verdict. 1111 00:51:03,620 --> 00:51:05,724 I watched Gwyneth Paltrow's face 1112 00:51:05,724 --> 00:51:07,551 as the verdict was being read. 1113 00:51:09,103 --> 00:51:12,482 [woman] Was Gwyneth Paltrow at fault? No. 1114 00:51:12,482 --> 00:51:17,103 Was Terry Sanderson at fault? Yes. 1115 00:51:17,103 --> 00:51:19,068 Comparative fault. 1116 00:51:19,068 --> 00:51:20,758 What percent of the fault 1117 00:51:20,758 --> 00:51:23,103 do you assign to Terry Sanderson? 1118 00:51:25,103 --> 00:51:26,862 100%. 1119 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,137 When Gwyneth Paltrow heard that, 1120 00:51:32,137 --> 00:51:34,793 you could tell that she was relieved. 1121 00:51:34,793 --> 00:51:36,586 Let's bring in Court TV legal responder, 1122 00:51:36,586 --> 00:51:38,448 Julia Jenae joining us live tonight 1123 00:51:38,448 --> 00:51:40,206 from Park City, Utah. 1124 00:51:40,206 --> 00:51:43,448 Julia, wow, like, boom. Boom. 1125 00:51:43,448 --> 00:51:47,275 It's like, "No, no, Gwyneth did nothing wrong here, 1126 00:51:47,275 --> 00:51:50,586 it was you, Terry Sanderson." 1127 00:51:52,344 --> 00:51:55,137 It was a bit of a shock for journalists to hear 1128 00:51:55,137 --> 00:51:57,586 that not only the jury came back with a verdict 1129 00:51:57,586 --> 00:51:59,551 so quickly, only two hours, 1130 00:51:59,551 --> 00:52:03,206 but that they also had not found any negligence 1131 00:52:03,206 --> 00:52:04,862 on the side of Paltrow. 1132 00:52:04,862 --> 00:52:06,896 Vinnie, a scathing loss 1133 00:52:06,896 --> 00:52:08,275 for the plaintiff in this case. 1134 00:52:08,275 --> 00:52:11,655 [dramatic music playing] 1135 00:52:11,655 --> 00:52:14,896 I think the jury reached the verdict they did 1136 00:52:14,896 --> 00:52:17,896 because Mr. Sanderson's story had too many holes in it. 1137 00:52:19,068 --> 00:52:21,827 I wouldn't go into whether or not it's fair or not 1138 00:52:21,827 --> 00:52:23,551 because I think it's fair for the jury 1139 00:52:23,551 --> 00:52:25,137 to reach its own conclusions. 1140 00:52:26,344 --> 00:52:29,241 But I thought that the evidence 1141 00:52:29,241 --> 00:52:32,931 was much more convincing the other way. 1142 00:52:34,275 --> 00:52:37,344 In talking to those who deliberated this case, 1143 00:52:37,344 --> 00:52:40,896 it sounded like they really believed Paltrow 1144 00:52:40,896 --> 00:52:42,206 when she took the stand. 1145 00:52:43,310 --> 00:52:45,586 It was almost black and white at the end 1146 00:52:45,586 --> 00:52:46,724 that there was no way 1147 00:52:46,724 --> 00:52:48,206 the collision could've happened 1148 00:52:48,206 --> 00:52:49,655 in the way that Terry Sanderson 1149 00:52:49,655 --> 00:52:51,931 was saying that it happened. 1150 00:52:51,931 --> 00:52:53,655 [Karlene] He came home and he's described 1151 00:52:53,655 --> 00:52:55,379 that he had been in a ski accident 1152 00:52:55,379 --> 00:52:57,413 and somebody had hit him. 1153 00:52:57,413 --> 00:52:59,655 He would not tell me and create something 1154 00:52:59,655 --> 00:53:01,310 that was false. 1155 00:53:03,068 --> 00:53:07,344 She is a centimillionaire, two times over, 1156 00:53:07,344 --> 00:53:11,000 and she was able to bring in this animation 1157 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:12,137 that she'd created. 1158 00:53:13,206 --> 00:53:15,172 And those resources 1159 00:53:15,172 --> 00:53:17,965 did not seem as readily available to him. 1160 00:53:17,965 --> 00:53:19,862 That was one of the factors that weighed 1161 00:53:19,862 --> 00:53:21,896 into the disparity in the case 1162 00:53:21,896 --> 00:53:25,862 was that she had more money and resources 1163 00:53:25,862 --> 00:53:27,896 to litigate the case with. 1164 00:53:29,172 --> 00:53:33,482 Terry Sanderson's story lost a lot of credibility 1165 00:53:33,482 --> 00:53:36,965 when I saw the images of him on vacation. 1166 00:53:36,965 --> 00:53:40,068 These were posts that were brought into court 1167 00:53:40,068 --> 00:53:42,172 that we could clearly see this man 1168 00:53:42,172 --> 00:53:44,000 was still enjoying his life. 1169 00:53:47,655 --> 00:53:51,517 It was very disheartening as a healthcare provider 1170 00:53:51,517 --> 00:53:55,448 to see that recommendations that I provided to him 1171 00:53:55,448 --> 00:53:58,379 as part of his ongoing recovery 1172 00:53:58,379 --> 00:54:00,551 was turned around in a way 1173 00:54:00,551 --> 00:54:05,137 and used against him as part of an attack. 1174 00:54:05,137 --> 00:54:11,000 Part of Terry's love and passion was travel 1175 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,275 and that was part of his recovery 1176 00:54:14,275 --> 00:54:16,758 was to get back to travel 1177 00:54:16,758 --> 00:54:20,068 and get back to some semblance 1178 00:54:20,068 --> 00:54:22,793 of an increased quality of life. 1179 00:54:22,793 --> 00:54:24,448 [man] This court is now adjourned. Thank you. 1180 00:54:24,448 --> 00:54:26,896 Can I have my client slip out the floor? 1181 00:54:26,896 --> 00:54:29,724 [Daniel B] I think this case was great for Gwyneth Paltrow. 1182 00:54:29,724 --> 00:54:31,862 She fought for the truth and she won. 1183 00:54:31,862 --> 00:54:34,758 So I think it has salvaged her reputation 1184 00:54:34,758 --> 00:54:36,482 quite significantly. 1185 00:54:36,482 --> 00:54:39,068 [man] Everyone remain seated while the parties leave. 1186 00:54:39,068 --> 00:54:41,655 Once these parties were dismissed, 1187 00:54:41,655 --> 00:54:44,448 she walked over past the plaintiff's table, 1188 00:54:44,448 --> 00:54:46,586 she leaned over, whispered something 1189 00:54:46,586 --> 00:54:49,965 in Terry Sanderson's ear, and then, she left. 1190 00:54:52,344 --> 00:54:55,172 We were all very curious as to what she said 1191 00:54:55,172 --> 00:54:57,068 in that moment to Terry Sanderson 1192 00:54:57,068 --> 00:54:59,517 while all eyes were watching. 1193 00:54:59,517 --> 00:55:02,689 [man] Did Gwyneth Paltrow touch you as she left? 1194 00:55:02,689 --> 00:55:04,310 -She did. -[man] And what... 1195 00:55:04,310 --> 00:55:06,793 Her exact words, "I wish you well." 1196 00:55:06,793 --> 00:55:08,689 -Very kind of her. -That's all she said? 1197 00:55:08,689 --> 00:55:11,344 -That's all she said. -Okay. And did you respond? 1198 00:55:11,344 --> 00:55:13,172 I said, "Thank you, dear." 1199 00:55:13,172 --> 00:55:15,000 Showing compassion and grace to someone 1200 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,241 who's put you through a difficult ordeal 1201 00:55:17,241 --> 00:55:18,724 is classy and decent. 1202 00:55:19,862 --> 00:55:21,793 [Peter] The outcome of this trial had a positive effect 1203 00:55:21,793 --> 00:55:24,586 on how the public views Gwyneth Paltrow. 1204 00:55:24,586 --> 00:55:26,137 I think she came off as honest, 1205 00:55:26,137 --> 00:55:27,379 I think she came off as credible. 1206 00:55:27,379 --> 00:55:30,034 Gwyneth has always had a history 1207 00:55:30,034 --> 00:55:34,827 of advocating for what she believes in this... 1208 00:55:34,827 --> 00:55:39,275 Believes in and this statement was no different. 1209 00:55:39,275 --> 00:55:42,586 And she will continue to stand up for what is right. 1210 00:55:44,586 --> 00:55:46,241 Proving you were right and being able to tell 1211 00:55:46,241 --> 00:55:48,000 your side of the story, I think it's something 1212 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,482 that's really important for any individual. 1213 00:55:49,482 --> 00:55:52,620 [dramatic music playing] 1214 00:56:01,827 --> 00:56:04,448 [singer] ♪ I tell my soul 1215 00:56:04,448 --> 00:56:08,275 ♪ Fall in love again 1216 00:56:08,275 --> 00:56:10,758 ♪ I tell my soul 1217 00:56:10,758 --> 00:56:15,896 ♪ Fall in love again 1218 00:56:15,896 --> 00:56:18,620 ♪ I've been dreaming fire 1219 00:56:18,620 --> 00:56:21,241 ♪ It's got me On the devil's list ♪ 1220 00:56:21,241 --> 00:56:23,862 ♪ I tell my soul... 85929

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