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So, another lawyer...

already made an informal appeal.

But he should have made
an appeal before a court.

- He forgot.
- There you go.

He didn't do his job.

So?

He practically ruined me
and wrecked my case.

- He what?
- He ruined my case.

Getting rich off others is fine,

but I can't just find money
from nowhere.

I wake up at 4 a.m. to earn money.

And now, my whole life's at risk.

He ruined me.

He might not have won the case

nor might he have obtained
an annulment...

But at least I could have
followed my path.

Now, he has ruined everything,

even though I lived there
for 15 years.

I've told you,
when you have Italian papers...

It's the Schengen Agreement.
I have freedom of movement.

Yes, but only freedom of movement.

- Exactly.
- You have to leave afterwards.

If you want to stay here,

you have to go to
the police station...

I did that.

...and say, "I've just arrived."

I got a job. I got a work contract.

You must do that when you arrive,

- not three months after.
- I did, at the start,

but they refused me a work permit.

I'm not talking about work permits.

Concentrate on what I'm saying.

You have three months' freedom
to move around. How do they check

when you entered the country,

and how do they calculate
a period of three months?

Therefore, they ask you
to declare yourself

at a police station.

That's what I did.
I went to the prefecture.

They gave me the...

A police station, I said! Come on!

Ah, a police station.

- Yes, yes, because...
- Yes, well!

Plus, you're subject
to a territorial ban.

Do you know
what a territorial ban means?

It means that for two years,

you are obliged
to leave the European Union

if you want to come back.

But I left my house.
I left everything over there.

I rent a place here and I work here.

What do I do?
I'm not just some object

that can be thrown away like that.

Why did they do this to me?
What's that all about?

It's the law!
I don't know why they did it.

I wasn't there.

I can't perform miracles.

I can't just say,
"I'm deleting that..."

That's why I've come to you.

To see if there's a solution.

It's going to be hard.

So, simply put,

you have been in France

for five years

even though you have
an Italian residence permit,

and that will
always cause you problems.

Certain prefectures may consider

that the Italian permit,
if you have that Italian permit,

means that you reside in Italy,
not in France.

So, if we manage to get past

that Italian permit,

there's still the territorial ban
to deal with.

OK? That means that,
first, you must request

to have that ban lifted

- before you can apply for a permit.
- Before starting the application?

OK? I'm not saying it's impossible,

but...

It'll be tough?

They need to be accommodating.

So, it's up to you to tell me
if you are...

- what you are prepared to do.
- Ma'am,

I have faith

in your competence.
You know more than I do.

- Yes, but...
- You know the law better than me.

But I've met

so many lawyers now,
I'm almost a lawyer myself now.

Soon, they'll be awarding me
the title of lawyer.

But this is all too much.

I'm not a thief or a drug dealer.

The situation for foreigners is...

I'm going crazy now.

- I know, but...
- I feel like going to the prefect now

- and hanging myself in front of him!
- No.

That's all I can do now

because he's ruining my life
over a piece of paper.

- I know, I know.
- But it's not normal.

They say France
is a humane, lawful country.

- Where's the humanity and law?
- That...

I'm a human being.

- I know.
- I'm going to get depressed.

- You won't.
- I drive every morning,

and the minute I see a cop,

it's like seeing hell.

It's not the cops' fault.

No, because if I get arrested,

they'll take me to a center that...

At my age, I'm not going to a center.
I'm not 22.

Don't get arrested.

I've done nothing wrong.

Some people came two days ago
and they've got a residence permit.

I've been here for years.
I'm getting old.

That's not true.

The problem is,
I have nobody left in Algeria.

-No friends,
-I've told you

it doesn't work like that.

I've left Italy.
I had lots of friends there.

I've come to France and made myself
a little nest. And now...

What is going on? I don't get it.

I'll go crazy soon.

- Mr. B, you have--
- Yes, sorry, but...

No, don't worry.
You have had several lawyers.

If you want this rectified,
you need to stay with one lawyer.

That lawyer needs to know
your situation thoroughly

and ensure that you get
the residence permit.

- But ma'am...
- You've come to me right at the "end"

of this process.

So, I can't promise you
that it will work out

nor can I promise you
when it will work out,

if indeed it ever does.

And it'll cost you money too.

Lawyer's fees.
I'll tell you that right away.

We'll need to sign a contract.

You can't work for free.

And I can't guarantee
the right result.

OK?

If I tell you it's too risky,
it'll be for you to decide

if you want to proceed or not.

Where do I go?

Where?

A SENSE OF JUSTICE

OK.

- You're Bangladeshi, right?
- Yes.

You are from Bangladesh?
Do you understand French?

- Yes.
- Yes.

Did you come here
straight from Bangladesh?

Pardon?

Before, India.
After, I come to France.

Ah, you came via India.

So, you applied for refugee status.

It did not work
as your application was rejected,

and I see that
there was an unfavorable report given

by the French Immigration Office,

who deem that you have
serious health problems

that you could have treated
in your home country.

- Yes?
- Yes.

So, you work...

You said that you've worked

as a kitchen porter
since September 1, 2017.

Yes.

And when the prefecture notified you

that your residence had been refused
and you had to leave the country,

were you still working?

Yes?

- Was it a permanent contract?
- Yes.

Can I see the contract
and your wage slips?

Did you send all these documents
to the prefecture?

OK.

Is his employer aware
of his situation?

Because he's going to have issues.
He'll lose his job.

As of January 9,

if his employer asks him
for a new temporary permit,

as he won't be able to produce one,
he'll lose his job.

-In the meantime,
-Yes.

- he has a small store.
- Yes.

- Is he the manager?
- Yes.

So, he's a kitchen porter and he has
a small company on the side?

- What is it?
- A grocer's store.

- A grocery?
- Yes.

Does he run it on his own or...?

He runs it and he has one employee.

He has an employee.
So, he has his company,

he employs someone to work there
while he washes dishes, right?

Yes, in the restaurant.
Then, when he...

Either he works at the restaurant
in the morning

and runs the shop in the afternoon
or vice versa.

OK.

Does he get a day off in the week?

He takes them himself.

- Himself?
- He's the manager.

- If he wants to stay...
- I'm only asking.

What does he do? Bangladeshi foods?

Does he sell Indian
or Bangladeshi foods?

No.

- What, then?
- General groceries.

Ah, general groceries.
Why are you laughing?

Why not? It could be

Bangladeshi or Indian specialities,
couldn't it?

OK. I think he has wage slips

- for his...?
- Yes, yes.

They'll ask for wage slips...

- From his employer?
- from his employee.

Yes, he has the contract
and the wage slips, if you want them.

Yes, and the employment declaration.

This is the lease agreement
for his apartment.

Yes, the lease agreement.

That's another wage slip?

Put it in the case file.

Do you need his tax statement?

Yes, why not?

He has done
some French language training.

Yes, very good.

Has he anything else to say
about his situation?

What if, after January 9,
something happens to him,

he gets checked or something?

No. Once you have sought

an appeal before
the administrative court,

the appeal suspends the obligation
to leave the country. OK?

If he's walking about
and gets stopped...

The prefectures used to put people

in detention centers.
They don't do that now.

At worst,
he'll be put under house arrest,

which means he has to check in
at a police station

until the court
has decided on his appeal.

I'll speak for him now.

Does he have a chance?

These things are always complicated.

I can tell you it's not...

It's always complicated.

We can't know. It's like a lottery.

I'm not saying it's a bad case,

otherwise, I wouldn't have taken it,
for sure.

But I won't hide the fact

that it depends on the judge he gets.

Sometimes we get one decision
with one judge

and a different decision
from another judge

for the same case.

So, we'll do all we can to win.

Regarding fees,

this type of procedure

costs between 1,500
and 1,800 euros, inclusive of VAT.

If he can't pay it in one go,

- he can pay it monthly.
- OK.

Ma'am, he...

He's asking if it's possible to...

- To?
- To haggle a bit.

- To haggle a bit?
- Yes.

His case requires a lot of work.

It's a lot of work for me.

Can we go?

I'll put my glasses on
or I'll see nothing.

So, this week...

Tomorrow we have emergency interim
proceedings. Any trainees interested?

They're coming to court with me
in the morning.

It's in the afternoon.

Ah, good.
Emergency proceedings for what?

A mother of two little girls

who obtained refugee status

because they're at risk
of female genital mutilation.

But they don't want to
give the mother

a residence permit

because they think
she has produced fake documents.

What are they going
to give her, then?

They'll give her nothing
if she doesn't bring along

a birth certificate
that is trustworthy.

You should win that.

Normally, yes.

With all that stuff
about Guinean civil status

- on social media...
- Yes, yes.

Anyway, the judge is M.V.

I don't know what that means.

But he was kind because he agreed

to reschedule the hearing

as I wasn't here yesterday.

It was meant to be
yesterday afternoon.

You managed to get
the interim proceedings adjourned?

I've never managed that
in my whole career.

So, I have a present for you,
dear Christine,

- as...
- You're certainly in his good books.

- The new presiding judge likes you.
- No, wait.

He's not the new one.
I have a gift for you.

There's another hearing on the 21st.

If you guys are interested,
you can go too.

- When? I've lost track.
- The 21st.

The 21st. Ah no, I can't go to that.

You have no choice. I can't go.

I have a meeting
at the prefecture at 10:15 a.m.

- What will I do?
- I don't know.

But someone has to go
because I'm in Sète.

Can't Sarah-Ilana go?

She can't defend the case on her own.

I'll join her later, but I can't.

I have a German-Chinese couple

meeting at the prefecture

at 10:15 a.m. I can't let them down

and I can't leave Stella alone
with them

because she's doing the translation.

I'll come afterwards. Is it that...?

- No, another case.
- Oh, a different case.

- At what time?
- 10 a.m..

- What will we do?
- I don't know.

- Audrey?
- I haven't a clue.

Audrey?

I haven't a clue about that case.

- It scares me.
- I'll see what I can do.

- Next week?
- Yes.

So, next week...

I have a meeting at the prefecture
on Monday morning.

I have a family court hearing
on Tuesday.

On the 24th at 2 p.m.,
I'm defending a client in...

It's only the labor court.

It's much less interesting
than foreigners' rights.

No, it's very interesting.

It's good we don't think like that,

but if anyone's interested,
it's at the labor court.

OK.

Monday next week, eh?

Anything else?

We'll see if the offer
is an interesting one.

Attorney Boukara's office.
You called?

Is he carrying that out
on the basis of...?

With Attorney Boukara?

Yes. Are you a new client?

She's not concluding the case.
She's passing on her conclusions.

And what is the reason

for your appointment?

That's true.

You say it's not
about your application for...

I don't see where the...

MEGA CIVIL CODE

So...

I'd like to go over
some things with you

as you requested my help

after the disappointing
court decision.

I think that, as the permit
application was poorly done,

you need to give it another go.

There's a circular
that enables the regularization

of parents with children at school

who have lived
in the country for five years.

Your parents fulfill that condition.

And their children should have been
at school here for three years,

which is also the case.

Except, you know
that the prefecture...

I don't know who had the silly idea

of giving the prefecture
your school reports.

Did they ask for your school reports?

We went...

When you applied initially?

Yes, because we went

to the Human Rights League

and they asked for the reports.

- The reports?
- Yes.

So, the prefecture had a look

at your results and they noticed

that you,
because you're still a minor,

that you had been absent
from school a lot

and that your school results
weren't great.

So, your parents have been punished

because you're not working hard
at school.

- Why were you absent from school?
- I don't know.

I don't know.

What do you mean, you don't know?

My train was often delayed

and sometimes I didn't go to school.

Weren't you keen? Didn't you like it?

- No?
- No.

This isn't a police interrogation.
You can tell me.

You can tell me

how you feel about school.

Is school not your thing?

I'm trying to improve now.

I'm making lots of effort.

It's a pity because if you had passed

the second semester,
we could've said,

"He made an effort
in the second semester."

The prefecture doesn't like
to re-examine a case

if there are no new details.
Do you understand?

That would've enabled us to add

an important detail

because that was the one used

to refuse your parents the permit.

And there's another thing.

Your parents don't speak French
very well.

I do not agree.

There are many people
who speak better or worse than us.

I've worked here
for two and a half years.

I do not agree.

- You don't agree with that?
- No, because...

My children have been at school
for five years.

Yes, that's true,
but in the circular...

We tend to forget,
the circular that allows...

It's not the law that allows it. OK?

It's not the law that says that
we have to give a residence permit

to parents
with children at school here.

OK? It's not the law.
Actually, it's a document

sent by the Minister of the Interior
to prefectures

telling them to consider it
on a case-by-case basis.

And that document
doesn't only feature

the condition of living here
for five years

and having children
at school for three years,

it also features a condition called,

"The condition
of Republican integration."

And according to
the Republican integration condition,

you have to speak French well.

When you went to the prefecture,

you were summoned
and you went there, eh?

Yes.

Let her speak.
She must learn to speak.

To apply for the residence permit,

- you went to the prefecture?
- Yes.

Who spoke to the lady
who dealt with you?

Was it your husband or you who spoke?

- It was me.
- Your husband didn't speak?

Yes, he spoke at some point
when we were at the prefecture.

- Does he speak French?
- Yes.

Better than you?

Yes, he speaks it well.

- Better than you?
- I speak a little,

whereas my husband
speaks French well.

Yes, he speaks it well.

- He speaks it well?
- Yes.

Because he worked

in Switzerland for 20 years.

- In Switzerland?
- Yes.

- For how long?
- Twenty years.

- Twenty years?
- Yes.

They speak French in Switzerland,

- in Geneva.
- OK.

Right.

If the prefecture wanted

to send you back to your homeland,

they would've imposed
an obligation to leave the country.

In this case,
they've done something unusual,

since they've refused

to renew your permit,

but they haven't taken steps
to send you away. OK?

They haven't closed the door
because they'd have sent you home

and imposed an expulsion procedure.

But they didn't.

Hence the fact that you must improve

the case file and try again.

OK?

But I'm not saying
that you'll be successful this time.

Sometimes, you need to insist.

But you must try
because you can't stay like this.

How are you managing? Are you paying
for your accommodation with savings?

My mom goes to an association.

- You get benefits from it?
- Yes.

I've been in France
for six and a half years.

I don't have papers. I don't work.
I'm always at home,

as is my husband.

Let's just say that the prefecture
has gotten very tough.

To pay for our apartment

and our electricity from EDF,

- it's hard.
- Yes, I know.

We are a family of five.

But you saw
that we underwent proceedings

at the administrative court.
It did not object

to depriving you
of your residence permit overnight.

- And how are your children?
- Fine.

All three of them are at school.
All is well.

- Is your wife well too?
- She is better than all of us.

Your wife is better than all of you?

Well, that's great.

So, you came to see me to tell me

that you'd been using
a false identity.

- Yes.
- We agree on that.

And that you could no longer live
with that.

Yes, that too.

And I understand that
because, after a while,

it becomes unbearable.

And that you were angry at yourself

because your wife was unaware of this

and you had to tell her.

You have a great wife, eh?

It has to be said.

Then, what we did was...

It's what I suggest
to my clients, anyway.

You reported yourself to the police.

Then the police
did their investigation.

We were then summoned, if you recall.

And as you are a family

that has lived in France
for a very long time,

with children born in France,

who go to school here,
you have always worked

and there have never been any issues,
the prefecture agreed

to give you a residence permit,

but you're starting
from scratch again.

Yes, that's clear.

You have a new reference number

and it's a one-year residence permit.

After, you'll have to get
another one-year permit

and another and so on
until you get the residence card.

Did you have a residence card before?

Yes, for ten years.

If you recall, you spoke

to Brigadier C of the Border Police.

You stated,
as is very often the case,

that you met some people

who told you it would be easier...

As a Kosovan.

...if you said you were from Kosovo

because there was a war there,

and France, at that time, accepted

foreigners from Kosovo more readily
than those from Albania.

- Not anymore.
- Because of the war.

Then you said you entered France

secretly, in a lorry,
without any documents.

"It wasn't until 2004 or 2005
that I presented

"a Yugoslavian passport
with the name Trari."

"Why 'Trari'?"

"I made it up. I just took a name
that I knew from that country

"and I made up the rest."

You could've used a longer name.

Then, they asked you
if you had worked

since you arrived in France.
You said, "Yes,

"for almost 17 years
and for several companies."

"Are you working now?"

"No, I stopped working in March 2018,

"when my residence permit ran out,

"and I didn't want to ask for
a new one under my fake identity."

"Do you acknowledge
the charges against you?"

"Yes."
"Do you have anything to declare?"

"I regret
not using my true identity."

That's the end of that. Ah, no.

Ah, this is important.
You were contacted

by the CPAM.
They stated that they suffered

a loss of 2,301.79 euros

and reserve the right
to file a complaint.

I told you
that all the money you received

from the CAF, from Pôle Emploi,
and from the CPAM

might have to be returned.

- Yes.
- You know that.

Bearing in mind that
those organizations do not respect

judicial decisions,

meaning that
even if you are discharged,

they will claim money back from you

because they deem
that you have cheated them

and that your fraud
has wrecked everything.

So, they are entitled
to ask for that money back.

I don't agree with that,
but we'll see.

We'll see what happens

- at the hearing.
- From the CAF, I just...

I just took money for the kids,

whereas I was on my own,
so I didn't benefit from that.

The CAF And the Social Security

are after you,
according to this file,

whereas...

OK, you cheated, but...

you fulfilled the conditions

and you always paid
your social security contributions.

I don't see why you couldn't use them

even if you have a false identity.

But...

We really need to find a...

I've already assigned
quite a few trainees

from this firm to this case.

And they still haven't found
a radical solution.

I hope we find one before then.

Is your employer prepared
to write a reference for you?

I can ask him.

So, he found out

that you've been using
a false identity

when you told everyone a year ago?

- A year ago, yes.
- What did he say?

He said he'd wait

for me to get my papers sorted.
It wasn't a problem.

Did he not find it scandalous?

- He didn't...
- No, not at all.

No.

How long have you worked for him?

I honestly don't know.

I've forgotten the date, but I've
worked there for at least ten years.

OK.

So, he can write you a reference,
saying

what he thinks of you as an employee

and that the fact
that he has taken you back on

under your true identity
means that you are good.

He thinks you're competent.

- I think so.
- Well, yes, clearly.

Yes, hello.
This is Attorney Mengus' secretary.

You're going out now?
Well, Attorney Mengus

has meetings all morning.

You were due an appointment
with her at 9 a.m.

You need to warn us
when that's the case

because I don't know
what time you're going to arrive.

At 10 a.m., she has another client.
I don't know what we'll do.

At 11 a.m., Attorney Mengus
has an external appointment.

When can you get here?

Us versus the prosecution.
We need to write

a registered letter to Mr. C
with an acknowledgment of receipt.

Yes, that's it.

"Dear sir.
Regarding the case review in March,

"I note that you have not yet

"settled the outstanding balance

"of my fee

"despite

"the successful outcome.

"If I do not hear from you,
I will have no choice

"but to refer this
to the President of the Bar

"for review of my fee

"and to request from you

"an additional sum under Article 700

"of the Civil Procedure Code."
Period, new line.

"Nevertheless, I hope it does not
come to that." Period, new line.

"I look forward to hearing from you.
Yours sincerely, Attorney X."

Yes, hello.
This is Attorney Mengus' secretary.

This is a reminder
since we haven't heard from you.

We sent you a letter

informing you
of the Bas-Rhin Prefect's decision

to issue you a residence card.

Yes. Didn't you receive our letter?

What about the email?

What about the email?

You don't have Internet?

Why do we have
your email address, then?

But you were summoned on October 2.

Let me speak to her.

Wait a moment, please.

I'll put you on
to Attorney Mengus, OK?

It's not OK! You missed...

You missed the...

Mrs. L., you need to go more often.

I wrote to you on September 27!

Right away.

You told my secretary
you no longer have an email address.

Well, you would have got it
on the day

I sent it to you, September 26.
It's a shame

that you don't look at your emails.

Plus, you had an appointment
in an office.

Right, OK. See you shortly, then.

Goodbye.

Jeepers! It's always the same.

We always have to chase them up.

Email addresses not working!

Whatever.

"Thus," comma,

"Nancy Administrative Court of Appeal
did not uphold

"the intelligence services'
allegations

"that Mr. A played a determining role

"in the departure of the young people

"who left to wage Jihad in Syria

"and who were
subsequently convicted."

Period, new line. "The court has thus
ignored the most serious charges."

Period, new line.

"Nevertheless," comma,

"contrary to what the Court of Nancy
thought it had read

"in the intelligence sources' notes,"

comma, "there was

"no incitement to religious hatred."

Period, new line. "In 2011,

"it is indicated
that he made the following remarks

"at Elsau Mosque,"

comma, open quotation marks,
"He prayed to God,"

comma, "during
the revolution called,"

open quotation marks,
"'the Arab Spring',"

close quotation marks, comma,

open quotation marks,
"to eradicate the enemies of Islam,

"Americans, and Jews,"
close quotation marks,

"the greatest infidels
are the governments"

"of America," comma, "France," comma,
"and the West in general," comma

"who deserve to burn
in the fires of hell..."

"who deserve to burn
in the fires of hell."

Underline that.
Close quotation marks and write,

"Divine justice."

Underline that and put it in bold.

"Thus, in his remarks,
there is no incitement

"to go wage Jihad." Period, new line.

"These were just imprecations."
Period, new line.

"It is also important
to remember that...

"Mr. A had produced
substantial evidence

"helping to establish
that the remarks

"attributed to him are false,"

and...

"if not misleading, and in all cases,

"imaginary." Period, new line.

So, Mr. S, you suffered

multiple trauma from shrapnel

and this affected
both your upper limbs,

your lower back, and back.

- Correct?
- Yes.

Now I remember. You couldn't

open or close your hand anymore.

Yes, I remember that now.

Is it a bit better?

It's for life.

- For life?
- Yes.

OK.

- And on the other side too.
- OK.

So, that happened in Chad, eh?

And you indicated

that the shell
had fallen on your house

and that, unfortunately,
your wife had died

- following the explosion.
- Exactly.

You had numerous operations in France

to rebuild both hands.

And afterwards, in 2012,

you applied for the residence permit.

- What else? Do you work?
- No, I don't work.

- You get adult disability allowance?
- I still get that.

- All these years?
- Yes.

- How much do you get now?
- 860 euros.

OK. Next,
what is your family situation?

Regarding my family situation,

last time I went to see a lawyer,

I was with my wife.

Now, we have...

We have had two children.

- So, you got married?
- Yes.

Here, in France?

We got married on October 17, 2014.

Then, a month after that, I was given

a residence permit.

Are you still married?

She has asked for a...

- Divorce?
- She wrote to the CAF

to tell them we've been separated
since 21...

- August 21.
- Is that true?

You're not together?
You don't live in the same...

She told me not to come back,

so I'm no longer part of her life.

I said, "OK, no worries."
So, I've come here.

So, you upped and left.

Left your wife and children.

But my wife said
she didn't want to see me again.

What if I go back
and she creates problems for me?

Why doesn't she want you?
What happened?

- It happened just like that.
- Like that?

She decided just like that.

- I don't know why.
- You haven't tried to find out?

She said she'd have me
kicked out of the country.

I asked her why.

She said she was the one
who got me the permit.

I said, "No, you didn't."

Wait a moment.

This is
the Immigration Office's opinion,

"Then, on October 17, 2014,
in Strasbourg,

"the gentleman married

"Mrs. B, a French national."

Ah, OK.

"As of now,

"the couple no longer live together."

"Slanderous letters..."
Very interesting.

"...from Mrs. B,

"stating that the party concerned
does not look after his children,"

"who, according to his wife..."
That's typical of the prefecture.

It writes,
"The denunciation of the wife." Nice.

That's great!

"She says he hasn't contributed
enough financially

"to the children's upkeep
and education."

- So, your children are French?
- Correct.

Have you made an application
as a French husband,

- as a parent of French children?
- No.

You should've come to me sooner.

Now, you are seriously...

Let's continue.

Ah, you've now married

a fellow countrywoman.

- Never.
- Tell me the truth.

Never.

I've already had it up to here
with her.

Why would I get another wife?

Well, that's why
it has been rejected.

They understand.

Have you told me everything?
You're not hiding anything?

- No.
- If I find something out,

-I'll be annoyed because
-I'm not hiding anything.

if I'm to defend you
to the best of my ability, I need...

How about contact with your children?

- How's that going now?
- It's going very well.

- Do you see them?
- I see them every day.

Ah! So, what do you do?

- You go over there?
- Yes.

- Where?
- To her place.

To her new apartment?

Has she left the marital home?

She doesn't have a new apartment.

She's staying in a hotel

with the children,
whom I see every day.

Who pays for the hotel?

She pays for it

because she has power of attorney
over my bank account.

She can access everything,

whether I'm there or not.

She can turn up at my bank

and take what she wants.

You can do the same.

Go to your bank and take all her pay.

I won't do that

because I'm not interested in that.

- Stability is important to me.
- You need money

because you are
in a really rotten situation.

You'll get lumbered
with a divorce procedure

in which she'll say you married her
for a green card.

I can see it coming.

You're not going to
abandon your children.

You'll have to pay for their
accommodation, have them to stay,

- and look after them.
- OK.

So, you need to get a grip
or we won't manage this.

Opara is the father?

- Yes. And Anita.
- She's the mother.

Yes, but this is
the Spanish family record book.

I thought they were from Italy.

No, Spain.

They speak Spanish too.

I think they lived in Spain
for a while.

Therefore, the family record book...

I only have the first page
of the family record book.

The lady doesn't have
any original documents

to prove her identity.
These are only photocopies.

I don't even have a copy.

But he wrote this.
I reckon he has some documents.

The man's file is all OK.

He is going to get some ID photos...

I think he must have documents
that we don't have.

So, what were we saying?

So, we found the travel document.

Mr. So-and-So, annex 1,

- we've found one wage slip?
- Yes.

On the other hand,
do we have the decision

on the return country
from the Meurthe-et-Moselle prefect?

- Did you have it?
- I've found it.

And this is the invitation
that goes with it

- since...
- Is that all mail?

No. Give me that back.

That goes with the invitation.

This is the invitation
to register the application.

So, where is that decision letter?

The decision letter...

No, this is not it.

Let's continue.

I'm really enjoying it, by the way.

I'm enjoying it.

No, frankly, it's...

What you've written is tough.

I don't know where you got that from.

No, it's really tough.

If you... I'd rather warn you.

If you write stuff down, I'll...

I'll have it dismissed
at the witness stand... I will.

Develop it orally.
These are oral proceedings.

I don't want anything written.
Nothing at all.

Wait, that's not a loyal thing to do,
even if it is only me.

We are colleagues, after all.

These things are supposed...
Hang on. As far as...

No, whichever. At some point,

we need to get on well
with each other.

You can't do this.

You can't start writing stuff
a week before the hearing.

We don't do that kind of thing
to each other.

We're all trying to get along.

Yes, OK.

But we're not obliged to conclude
under these circumstances.

Neither of us are.

Because you can't just
produce something... But wait.

We agree that the defense speech date

has been set since February.

You can't just bring us something
on the 19th.

This morning,
I was at the Court of Appeal,

and now, I've got to respond
to your request for deferment?

I don't have time to meet the client.

No, it's too easy to defer it!

No. I'd rather tell you.

I don't care. I'm arguing the case.

We're arguing this case,
whatever happens.

I'm not leaving the labor court
until the case has been argued.

It's going to be tough.

I think your client will lose.

But I don't care.

OK, but I tell you this.

I will have your testimony dismissed

and I'll plead the case whatever
the cost. I'll lie down if I have to.

I'll hang onto the desk.
I don't care.

No, wait...

Even useless documents remain

in an office for six years.

Do we agree?

They see Mr. A

as the person depicted
in the newspapers.

They don't have all the...

As we've never given
our side of the story to the media,

all they have to go on
is that he's a radical imam

mixed up in the Bataclan affair

and the case of the youngsters
who went to Syria

because that's what the press said.

So, they're fed by...

Plus, it comes from Libération,

and that's a leading newspaper
for them.

In fact, we should've made public
our side of the story

and laid on the table

the evidence in his favor

and made sure that was publicized.

Then, if he'd wanted
to do his hunger strike,

he could've done it.

But at least...

I spoke to a journalist

and I shouted at her that
that story about the Bataclan

and terrorists at the Bataclan
being radicalized by him

was fake news.

I said she was reacting
like the whole press

by spreading fake news.

I said it didn't even come from
intelligence sources' notes.

Do you see? They got it
from Libération

and that was good enough for them.

And now,

we're going to have to fight
on the media front

and we're also going to have to fight

on the judicial front

and I have lots of cases
underway already.

It's a heavy burden.

I'll have to open several proceedings
for this case,

at the Court of Bordeaux,
the Council of State,

and the Public Prosecutor's Bureau
because we filed a complaint

and the latter shelved it.

I'll bring it up again.

But it means loads of hearings
all over the place.

That's it.

So, my dear, your mission is

to file each application

with its acknowledgment of receipt
email

and acknowledgment of receipt
letter.

OK.

Give me that
and I'll put it back in here.

- So, all of that with...
- Yes.

But you'll have to
make a copy of each one.

OK?

It must be ready
by tomorrow morning.

I'm getting the train to Colmar
at 8:20 a.m. tomorrow. I'll be here

at 5 a.m. and it must be ready.

You'll have to change the annexes

and the numbering.

- Because it's not exact.
- No.

Do I write on it? What do I do?

Change it in the submission

and then stamp it with my stamp

and write down the numbering.

I...

Stella, you're half asleep today.

I don't know what you...

It's about my wedding plans
with my Algerian boyfriend,

who's living in Algeria for now.

I have two sets of big questions.

The first big question is about

which country to hold the wedding in.

After that,

I imagine the big problem
is getting a visa

to come to France

and getting married here.

If we can't manage that

and we're forced
to get married in Algeria,

I have a few questions
about the implications.

What happens,

since there are two
very different legislations involved,

particularly
regarding women's rights?

And how does all of that...?

Women's rights?

I've started to go through,

as much as I'm able to,
the Algerian Family code,

focusing on the right of divorce,

the issue of custody,

or rather, guardianship.

Whilst France upholds the notion
of parental authority,

in Algerian law,
there was a distinction

between custody and...

I think you're way ahead of yourself.

In fact, I am...

The marriage
has to last a certain time.

Anyway,
if you get married in Algeria,

you'll have to get
the marriage certificate transcribed.

And what we often see,

I don't know what the statistics are,
but in the cases that come to me,

I often see

visas blocked

on suspicion

of marriage fraud.

You won't be under suspicion,
of course,

because French women
have nothing to gain

other than the wish to live

with your spouse. The suspicion falls

upon the foreign spouse.

When you are forewarned, and you are,
you can build up evidence

of your intent to marry

because they'll ask for proof
of your meetings,

i.e., travels back and forth.

They'll ask you about
the circumstances of the marriage.

How did you meet?

It's often on the Internet.

Do you know this person?

That would be a handicap.

No, we met when I first traveled

to Algeria.

Why were you there?

It was a tourist trip
in Southern Algeria.

Ah, OK. It's pretty rare
for people to go to Algeria

- on tourist trips.
- Yes, but...

a friend advised me to go.

Already, it's a positive
that you didn't meet on the Internet.

Once you mention the Internet...

Yes, I get that it's a handicap.

Foreigners are suspected
of spear phishing

on the Internet and trying to connect

with French women or French men
to try to get a residence permit.

Most often, it's French women.

Be aware that sometimes,
they question both parties

separately.
You'll be questioned by the PAF,

the French Border Police.

He'll be questioned by the consulate.
And they'll check

if what you say matches.
And if you're unlucky enough

not to say exactly the same thing...

I'm just showing you
that it's a big intrusion.

The other option is

to get married in France.
He'll need a visa too.

He can ask for a short-stay visa.

He comes here and he stays.

And he applies
for the residence permit here.

He won't be going back and forth.
Why?

Because Algerians
don't need a long-stay visa

to apply for a residence permit.

They just need to enter legally.

So, he gets the visa

solely to get married
and then, after that,

he stays put and gets
the residence permit here.

When you look at it like that,
it seems

more manageable
to envisage the wedding in France.

That would be my advice.

So, we'll put aside all the questions

about the option
of a wedding in Algeria.

Then,
in terms of general questions...

This is the visa section.

I wonder if you know

who I could ask
to answer my next question.

He absolutely wants us to have
a religious wedding ceremony.

For the moment,

I'm neither for nor against.

Do you know who could tell me

what that...

what that entails for me?

It's a question of...

religion. If you don't adhere
to the Muslim religion,

there's no impact for you.

Do you know
how a Muslim divorce proceeds?

There's nothing formal about it.

It is the husband
who rejects the wife

and says, "I'm ending this marriage,"

and the marriage is ended.

A woman who believes

and is really into the religion,

she'll think, "I can't remarry
if my husband doesn't reject me."

But for you...

Anyway, that has no impact

on whether I get married or not.
I just wanted to know,

that's all. OK.

You're well organized,
from what I can see.

- Yes.
- Very methodical.

It's best to be so
to get your bearings.

- After all, these questions are...
- It's not simple.

I'd rather take action

even though I have no reason
to be any more wary

than in any other union whatsoever.

Yes, I think that
forewarned is forearmed

the minute you commit
to any path that is slightly...

- off the beaten track.
- Unusual, yes.

What's happening
on the money side of things?

He went with me to the UDAF,
the Family Associations Union.

I didn't understand any of that.

Say that again.
I didn't get it. What?

He lent me 1,000 euros.

- Who lent you 1,000 euros?
- Someone.

That's good.

When I say money,
I mean your financial situation.

How is it?

Are you with the MDPH?
Are you getting RSA benefit?

No, I get a disability allowance.

It's fine,
I'm getting a disability allowance.

Is the Family Allocations Service
taking money off you?

Money? Yes.

I've been told I have to pay back
16,000 euros.

I don't get why I have to pay that.

Is it withdrawing money
from your account?

- I don't know.
- You don't know.

I'll ask about that.

It was 32,000 before.
It is now 16,000.

Wait a while longer and we'll be OK.

How will I pay 16,000 euros?

Don't pay it.

What about your noisy neighbor?

Oh, it's always the same thing.

Sometimes, it's 2 a.m.,
sometimes 3 a.m.

- What kind of noise?
- It comes from the seventh floor.

Yes, I get it.
But what kind of noise?

What kind of noise
can you make at 2 a.m.?

It's like he's playing ping-pong

on the tiles.

I swear, it's hard on my ears.

Couldn't you record the noise
on your cellphone

and let me hear it some time?

I don't know how to.

- You don't know how?
- No.

All of that...

It's torture. It's like death row.

And moving out isn't conceivable?

I'd like to move out, yes.

- Have you applied?
- Yes, I've done that.

OK.

So, more or less,
everything has worked out,

apart from the CAF debt...

hanging over you. We'll see.

The residence permit is fine.

- Yes, that's fine.
- That's great, then.

- We finally made it.
- Yes, I know.

- It took a while, but...
- No worries.

- You won't regret it?
- I will, a bit.

Will you regret
that you went through this?

The procedure
to get your identity back

- was pretty hard, though, eh?
- Yes.

They didn't go easy on you.

It's over now.

There we go.

Now, promise me

you won't miss the boat again.

Otherwise, it will take us months

to get it sorted again etc..

Find a friend
who has Internet and a computer

so you can do that application
before April.

April, eh?

Do what you need to
and I'll look into this CAF business.

OK. Thank you, Mrs. Mengus.

- You still owe me money.
- Yes, I know.

- We'll see about that next year.
- OK. No problem.

Put a bit of money aside for me.

I'll put a bit aside
for you and for a vacation.

And for a vacation!

OK, goodbye, Mrs. Mengus.

- Have a good one.
- See you soon.

Take care!

Bye.

There you go, anyway.
That file contains

quite a lots of ingredients
and problems that crop up

in medical cases,

medical liability cases.

Do these files have a color code?

No. There's a color code
for the dividers.

OK.

- You noticed?
- No.

In the dividers...

I didn't notice the color code
for the dividers.

Pink is for proceedings.

Yellow is for correspondence.

Blue is for ID documents.

I normally put my documents inside

and opponents' documents
are also put under a divider.

And violet is for accounting

or legal aid,

i.e., fees or legal aid.

But blue isn't for...

No, I have it just in case

because I like to have several colors

and I sometimes memorize
files by color too.

If they're all the same color,
it's no good.

- OK.
- OK?

Hello?

Yes, hello.

How shall I put it?
Approve the deportation order

but not for all of the charges

that he was put
under house arrest for.

OK? Meaning that...

No. If you recall, there were
two reasons. The preaching

and the determining role he played

in the departure
of the youngsters to Syria.

That charge was dropped.

They haven't dropped
the preaching charge.

I'll tell you something.

Because I find this case scandalous.

And...

I want to initiate an enquiry

because we filed a complaint

for false allegations
at the Public Prosecutor's Bureau

who shelved the case
without conducting an investigation.

I think they're refusing me
an investigation

for false allegations.

They don't want to initiate
criminal proceedings

This is
a total miscarriage of justice.

We have administrative judges

who don't check anything anymore
and just copy and paste stuff.

But we have a criminal judge

who can conduct investigations.

And I want to use that criminal judge
to establish the truth.

Because I'm thinking. If Mr...

I mean, we're prepared
to die tomorrow

to draw attention to his situation,

so I'm thinking there has to be
some issue with this case.

We're not getting a great judge,
I'm afraid.

Not great, eh?

Anyhow, I think

that what my wife has done is not...

In fact, she knows full well
what she's doing

because it's not normal.

- All of a sudden, she...
- I don't know.

It's maybe because
she has five kids and I...

I'm an obstacle for...

for her in her life, maybe.

I don't understand it at all.

Remember, she suspicious

that you have another wife in Chad.

That's not true.
I've been married to her

for five years.

Why now?

Maybe she couldn't bear the fact

that you looked after

your child in Chad more than them.

I don't know.

The problem,

when I go and see the children,

is that their mother is always there.

And I'll be honest with you,

I still care about her.

Well, then.

- If you still love her...
- I do.

- you need to keep trying.
- Yes, I am trying, but...

- It's not working.
- No.

Ma'am, do you think I like

being treated this way,

- whereas...
- Of course not.

I don't like it either.

...whereas I have a country,
I have my dignity.

I've never had any problems
in this country.

I've been here for 12 years.

I've never been to a police station

to file a complaint about anyone

or because someone has reported me.

I know.

I don't want any of this.

I've had enough crap in life.

I don't need any extra.

Can you imagine
how many sleeping pills I take?

I take one and a half pills

whereas the normal dose
is half a pill.

I take one and a half pills

and I can't even sleep
four hours in a row.

That has happened for 12 years.

From 2008 up to now,
I've never been able to sleep

more than four
or five hours straight.

- That's...
- Yes, it's hard. I know.

Since I've had these problems,

I've woken up
two or three times at night

and I don't even know why I wake up.

I can't sleep
even though I take sleeping pills.

- It must be traumatic.
- Honestly...

Honestly, I am tired,

mentally and physically.

In fact, I'm shattered.

I understand.

And frankly,

if there was a solution
in my homeland,

I swear...

I swear I wouldn't stay

a single second here.

Without all the operations I've had,

I wouldn't have regained the use
of my hand and I'd have been...

more disabled than I am today.

Not to mention
the mental health care I've had.

- Yes, I agree.
- We don't have that in Chad.

If we did have it, frankly,
I'd be better off there

because I'd be surrounded
by friends and family.

Not here.

The only family I have here
is my wife and my children.

But if you still love her,

maybe things could be sorted out...

- Yes, I do love her.
- in time.

I love her,
but when she digs her heels in,

she really digs them in.

And frankly, I don't want to
fight with her.

Honestly, when you...

When you have a problem with her,

you just want to kill yourself.
Believe me.

- That's love for you.
- Believe me, ma'am.

Right. Let's deal
with the papers first

and afterwards,
we'll deal with your love life.

What was the date of the hearing?

It's in less than two weeks.

Right now, I'm really

- at the end of my tether.
- Yes.

I have one child over there
and I abandoned him.

Now, I'm going to abandon
two children and leave.

You won't abandon anyone.
Don't worry.

We'll get there.

- It made me laugh when you...
- What?

You really don't have
the right perspective

for a defender of foreigners' rights.

To come to me and say

that she deliberately had a child
with a French man.

I don't know where you got that from.

I don't know. It was an impression.

So, it's a prejudice.

I admit it was prejudiced,

but I...

I have no particular idea
on the subject.

I'm working on the basis

that the father doesn't really
look after his daughter,

or very little.
There have been moments,

like you said, when--

But in your mind,
the fact that she wanted

a good future for her child

meant that she chose
a French national

to satisfy herself that her child
will have a bright future.

I don't believe
she's interested in the man.

From what I see, I don't think
she was interested in him.

Well, that's funny.

That's the impression I got. Why...?

Just a little thing.

You know that in France

there are lots of women
who have babies by themselves

because they want a baby.

If she had wanted a baby
just with a French man,

I think the nationality...

Why would she have wanted that?
What makes you say

that she chose that person
because of his nationality?

Yet again, for the good of her child.

I don't care about that.

What, in this case, makes you say
that she chose that man

because he was French?

- Nothing.
- So, you are showing prejudice.

You haven't experienced that.

I've done family law cases

and I've seen fathers who don't look
after their kids at all.

Plenty of them.

They don't pay for their board,
they don't pay a cent.

I can tell you
that some of them even go bankrupt

so as not to have to pay
a cent to the mothers,

even if it means
going to prison once or twice

for non-representation.

So, it's not about residence permits.
It can be two French people,

typical French people with or without
residence permit issues.

You encounter those situations.

So, you adopt a suspicious mindset

when you deal with foreigners

who are applying for residence.

I wanted you to read it
because I wanted to know

whether it shocked you

that a prefecture,
a French administration, should say

that a French kid

had better things to do
than live in France

and that it is good for her
to return abroad.

Does that not shock you?

But in his decision, the prefect

is not targeting the girl directly.
It's a ricochet effect.

- It's the same thing.
- He's targeting the mother.

Yes, true, but they know full well

that the mother
has custody of the child

and the child is a minor,

so if they kick the mother out,

the child will go too.

So, they don't appreciate
the best interests of a foreign child

in the same way
as those of a French child.

Let's just say the prefecture
is treating her more like

a second-class French citizen.

But that's not...

For me, that's not
blindingly obvious right away.

I don't know why.

It didn't really shock me.

I thought it was in line
with immigration law.

In fact, the problem is
that in immigration law,

you get used to the worst things
and nothing shocks you anymore.

Yes, that's an idiosyncrasy

that we should be ashamed of.
I say that

to magistrates.

They find nothing scandalous anymore.

Everything seems banal.
I'm absolutely shocked.

It's because their mindset is...

For me, it's a colonialist mindset.

I.e., there are pure French people

and non-pureblood French people.

We're re-establishing colonial law,
in a way.

That's how I see it.
That's how I read

this case, as I do others.

The problem isn't just restricted
to this case.

With, on the one hand...

You said it yourself,
they are second-class citizens.

Right, I think that will be
all the extra we need

on top of what we have already.

Do you have any other questions

about the criminal hearing
in February?

It'll be the first time
I've ever been in court.

It can be quite distressing.

It is pretty formal.

In the courtroom,
you'll have before you

the magistrates.

On your left, and sometimes
on your right, it depends,

there'll be the Public Prosecutor.

He is the one presented

as being the representative

or the guardian
of society's interests.

The judge will start
by asking you questions

and remind you why
you are appearing before the court.

He will ask you different questions
to understand the case better.

Sometimes, if there are gray areas,

he will try to clarify them.

In your case,

I don't think there are
any gray areas.

Your statements are clear.

You have always said the same thing.

He may ask you little questions,
like the ones I've asked you.

How did you manage
to get 700 euros together?

Who exactly told you that?

He will try to find out more.

To find out more.

It doesn't matter what he says.

- It's not a problem.
- Next,

the Public Prosecutor
will petition the court.

I.e., he will say what sentence

he would like you to receive.

Lastly, your lawyer
will take the floor

to defend you.

That's it.

We'll see what happens.

If we don't get an acquittal
due to the statute of limitations,

I'm not too worried.

You did commit an offense,

but you have a clean criminal record.

Since you arrived on French soil,
you have always worked.

That declaration...

You did lie

but in a very unique context.

I am not worried

about your sentence.

You will not have a detention warrant
served against you.

You won't go to prison.

But I think that
if a sentence is imposed,

I hope it will be reasonable,

that it will fit your situation.

That's the principle.
That is the law.

The principle is to personalize
penalties and criminal offences.

I'm not worried, but hey...

What will happen will happen.

I was expecting this anyway.

If I have to pay, I will pay.

That's also something
you can tell the court.

Tell them that you are prepared
to accept the sentence

that will be served against you

because you knew full well
you would answer for your deeds

sooner or later.

It's always important
that they hear that from your mouth.

Coming from me,

it doesn't sound the same.

It also touches the court

when they hear the client's words.

Lastly, I'd do it in my own words.

Nicer words.

They'll be different.
Yours are very good

and they reflect
your life experience too.

OK?

So, anyway, he arrives.

I thought he knew the case file.
He didn't know a thing.

So, first, I had to...

- repeat everything.
- repeat my whole petition

and then give him a law lesson.

I don't know what the effect will be.

At the end,
I felt like he was laughing

at the barrage

of legal arguments.

He said, "Thank you
for that exhaustive defense."

I'll see what comes of it.

I pleaded in front of Frayer
this morning.

- You have no hope.
- I know,

but I managed to make him smile.

That's all that I...

I managed that once
and got nothing out of it.

It was a French-Algerian couple.

Sweet as anything, friendly.
I love them.

With an age difference

- of 15 years.
- Is the woman older?

Yes, but you can hardly see it.

But one of them
entered the country illegally.

When I saw Frayer come in,

my colleagues and I
looked at each other.

We thought, "Sugar!
We'll be pleading for nothing."

Who was the Judge Rapporteur? Him?

No, it wasn't him.

It was the guy on the right.

It was a bunch of guys only.

He was tall and looked

more or less humane and attentive.

We know full well
that having an attentive judge

doesn't mean he'll rule in our favor.

I cut you off.
What did you want to say?

I was saying...

What time is it?

Is my eleven o' clock appointment
going to let me down too?

No, it isn't 11 a.m. yet.

So, my appointment?

What's up with them all this morning?
They're not coming.

The award...

Requested the award

of RSA benefit.

I'll give you an example.

A person who hasn't been to school.

They won't necessarily ask
complicated questions,

but they can ask things
that aren't easy

for someone who hasn't necessarily
been to school,

at least to school in France.

There's the motto of France too.

- Liberty, Equality, Fraternity.
- That's it.

What is the authority
that votes on laws?

The authority
that votes on laws in France?

The authority that votes.

Does authority mean authorization?

Meaning,
where are laws voted on in France?

- Democracy.
- No.

Democracy is a regime or system.

It's not a place
where you vote on laws.

Each country can have...

- The government?
- Pardon?

- The government?
- No, it's not the government,

even if that's what makes the law,
in reality. No, it's not that.

The President.

No. I said, "Votes on."
The President doesn't vote on laws.

- The people?
- No.

- Who votes? Ah, the department.
- No.

- It's the parliament.
- The parliament?

- Not the department?
- The parliament.

There's the National Assembly
and the Senate.

- Is that the department?
- No.

Department has nothing to do with it.
A department is...

Don't look at her answers.

I'm asking these questions
because they're not in there.

Sorry, it's just to show you.

No. What is a department?

- Name a department.
- The parliament.

No. Name a department.

France is divided
into many parts or departments.

There are around 100 departments
in France. OK?

Bas-Rhin and Haut-Rhin
are not the same thing.

You know that?

If a department votes on laws,
they're not really laws,

but if it votes on things,
it's for Haut-Rhin,

not for all of France.

- OK?
- Yes.

Next, name a river.

Do you know one?

That's the type of question
they'll ask.

If he's failed just on that,

they won't refuse him citizenship.

He's not expected
to answer every question.

But that's the type of question
that gets asked.

Next,

what do you think secularism means?

They'll almost certainly
ask you that.

- Secularism?
- Yes.

- It's freedom of speech.
- No.

What's freedom of speech?

Secularism...

- is... May I?
- No, don't answer.

You're not going to be questioned!

They'll ask this type of question,

so I'm checking if you know.

What is secularism?

It respects all citizens.

Yes, you're nearly there.

It respects all citizens. Why?

Aren't citizens all the same?

It's freedom of...

- Freedom?
- Yes. Of what?

Don't look at her!

She won't be with you
on the day of the interview.

It's freedom of expansion...

Freedom of expression.

What kind of expression?

- People are free.
- Free to do what?

France is secular.

That means that the State
is neither Catholic

nor Protestant nor anything.
It's not religious.

That's what it means,

but the State respects
the religious beliefs of citizens.

It can't ban you

from expressing yourself or dressing

according to your religious rites.
OK?

Remember that: you'll be asked it,

for sure. I see it everywhere.

What does liberty mean?

Liberty?

Liberty means
that all human beings must...

All human beings are free.

And do you really think you're free?

What about equality?

All citizens are equal
before the law.

Yes. No matter where they're from,

no matter their religion,

no matter their race,
they used to talk about race

because that's in the constitution,

and no matter their gender.

I.e., men and women...

Do you think it's normal for men
and women to be equal?

- The same rights.
- Do you find it normal?

Do you find it normal for men
and women to be equal?

- It's normal.
- Is it normal?

- Is it?
- I don't know. It is normal.

Yes, it had better be normal

because if you say it's not normal,
it won't be good for you.

- Is it normal?
- Yes, it's normal.

What's it like at home?

Does your wife work?

She doesn't work.
She does housework.

She does housework?

She has never worked outside?

She worked in Italy.

- She worked in Italy?
- Yes, she worked a lot in Italy.

So, it's normal
for men and women to be equal?

- Yes.
- So, why are you laughing?

So, equality before the law means

that everyone is treated
the same way.

But that's not totally true.

When you're a foreigner,
you're not treated the same way

as a French person is. OK?

But that's how it is.

That is why equality...

But it's not a problem
if you say that.

If you say everyone is equal
but now and again,

there are differences,

like between a foreigner
and a French person.

There we go.

I'll give you a copy of this
and you make him study.

OK?

Yes.

- How old are you?
- I'm 18.

OK. And what do you do?

I'm about to do
my high school diploma.

In what subjects?

Health and social care.

What do you want to do in life?

I wanted to be a lawyer at first,

but I don't know if I could,
with the subjects I'm doing.

To be a lawyer, you must study law.

- You must study law at uni.
- Yes.

Why do you want to become a lawyer?

Because I like the idea.

- It interests me.
- OK, why not.

Right, I'll photocopy
all of this for you.

James Perry
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