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Just anger. 3 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,360 The victims were Derek Haysom and his wife, Nancy. 4 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:24,216 The couple's daughter 5 00:00:24,240 --> 00:00:25,400 is suspected of murder. 6 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,560 As is her boyfriend, a German diplomat's son. 7 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,600 His name is Jens Soering. 8 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:33,856 The two of them were a horrible puzzle 9 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,400 that fit together just right. 10 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:37,480 My parents died 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,040 because Jens and I were obsessed with each other. 12 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,880 These were two lovers who had turned on each other. 13 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:48,520 One day they said it was Elizabeth. 14 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,440 She said, "I've killed my parents." 15 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,680 The next day they said it was Jens. 16 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,720 He said that he'd killed my parents. 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,200 You lied, didn't you? 18 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,160 And then they switched back again. 19 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,200 I felt I didn't have any choice. 20 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,600 Jens acted of his own free will. He had a choice. 21 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,560 {n8}Is Elizabeth Haysom a beautiful and intelligent murderer 22 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,520 or the victim of an obsessive relationship with a cold-blooded killer? 23 00:01:19,320 --> 00:01:20,616 Do you know of any reason 24 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,600 why this court should not now pronounce judgement in your case? 25 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:25,680 I'm innocent. 26 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,480 This has so many twists and turns. 27 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:29,840 Oh, my goodness! 28 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,680 And so they've both lied, but who's lying now and why? 29 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,256 A couple convicted in the murders of a Bedford County couple 30 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,720 back in 1985 are being set free. 31 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,120 ...in the name of federal police, welcome to Germany. 32 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,360 This is the best day of my life. 33 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,240 Soering still insists that he has nothing to do 34 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:58,560 with the case for which he has spent 33 years in jail. 35 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,760 This case has captivated people 36 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,000 for the past 35 years. 37 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:06,800 In the end all of this saga, 38 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,440 there's only two people that know the real truth. 39 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,160 And that's Elizabeth and Jens. 40 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,920 I thought I was doing the right thing, 41 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,240 and did something very wrong. 42 00:03:08,640 --> 00:03:11,680 {n8}This is family land. I mean, I was born across the street, 43 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,280 lived in the same place all my life. 44 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,640 Parents live up the road about three quarters of a mile, 45 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,120 {n8}so it's just a wonderful place to live. 46 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,240 You know, our town in the '80s, 47 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,200 {n8}I grew up where you left your keys in your car. 48 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,640 {n8}You left your house unlocked. 49 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:36,560 You helped your neighbor. You watched other people's property. 50 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,000 We were a little town in the middle of nowhere, 51 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,400 and when this murder happened, it was... 52 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:49,400 It was unfathomable. 53 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:51,896 From the heart of Virginia, 54 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,640 {n8}this is News Center 13 at 6:00 with Jeff Taylor. 55 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,600 {n8}I was the, uh, managing editor and the anchor of the newscast 56 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,560 {n8}at Channel 13 here in Lynchburg. 57 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,120 {n8}We were in our newsroom. 58 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,680 {n8}It was, uh, April, I believe, April 3rd. 59 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,640 We heard a call go out for a body 60 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,280 out on Holcomb Rock Road, 61 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,600 and they gave the address, and I immediately knew 62 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,000 that was the Haysom's address. I said, "We need to get a crew out there." 63 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,200 I had my radio on, 64 00:04:32,280 --> 00:04:35,320 and I called my chief deputy, "Ronnie, what have you got?" 65 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,600 He said, "Just need you to go to Holcomb Rock Road." 66 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:40,680 "Something big has happened." 67 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,120 It wasn't long before there were 68 00:04:43,280 --> 00:04:47,320 just lots and lots of people on this narrow, windy road. 69 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,800 Authorities entered the home of W.R. Derek and Nancy Haysom, 70 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:53,560 following a complaint from a friend 71 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,440 that hadn't been able to contact the couple. 72 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,880 My whole job there that first night was crime scene security. I... 73 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,880 went through the house, and it was as brutal 74 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,440 as anything I've ever seen. 75 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,600 Police found a grisly scene inside the house. 76 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,520 The couple's throats had been slashed, and they had been stabbed numerous times. 77 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:18,400 The murders took place at least two days before the bodies were found on Wednesday. 78 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,160 I went in the house as they were taking the bodies out, 79 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,760 saw everything. It was awful. 80 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,880 The fact that I knew these people, 81 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,560 I knew who they were, I'd spent time with them socially. 82 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,560 I went back to the station, and I said, 83 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,640 "I cannot do the eleven o' clock newscast." 84 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:37,880 "I just can't." 85 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:42,080 The victims were Derek W.R. Haysom and his wife, Nancy. 86 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,440 Haysom was a South African native who later gained Canadian citizenship. 87 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,240 He was the president of the Sydney Steel Corporation. 88 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:53,760 The Haysoms were socialites. 89 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,320 They were very well known 90 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,720 in their part of Bedford County and in Lynchburg. 91 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,440 They liked to go to the country club for drinks and dinner. 92 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,120 They liked to play bridge. 93 00:06:05,280 --> 00:06:09,360 Basically, I was just their neighbor. I helped them out. We were very social. 94 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,080 Derek was very, you know, quiet, but you asked him a question, 95 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,040 you were going to get an answer, whether you liked it or not. 96 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,280 He was very straightforward and very proper. 97 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,920 He had been in South Africa and turned this steel plant around, 98 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,360 and had been a tough taskmaster, 99 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,200 so he'd made a lot of friends. 100 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,080 But he'd made a lot of enemies too in different places. 101 00:06:37,840 --> 00:06:40,080 They lived in the East County. 102 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,360 This is where affluent people have moved, so they can get a little space. 103 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:50,080 My sister's home was called Loose Chippings. 104 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,320 {n8}I don't know why you have to name a home, 105 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,520 {n8}but... but that's... that's kind of the way she was. 106 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:07,760 {n8}My sister's maiden name was Nancy Astor Benedict. 107 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:15,240 Lady Astor is, in fact, a relative of ours through my mother's side of the family. 108 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,320 Lady Astor was the first female member 109 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:20,560 of parliament in England. 110 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,560 She was born in Virginia. She spent some time here in Lynchburg. 111 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,560 Her father was a tobacco baron. 112 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,760 My sister really felt 113 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,760 the pedigree was very important, and she wanted to be the... 114 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,200 leader of Lynchburg Society, I think, and... 115 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,080 Mommy was a feisty woman 116 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,240 {n8}and Pop, uh, sort of modeled himself after Churchill. 117 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,560 {n8}So, if you can imagine a Churchill and a Lady Astor flashing, 118 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,360 loving each other and raising a family together, 119 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:56,600 it... it was a wonderful family. 120 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,720 My sister had two children with her first husband. 121 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:07,400 Derek had been married before as well and had the three kids. 122 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,320 It was a good relationship. 123 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,640 {n8}Derek and Nancy only had one child together, 124 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,520 {n8}Elizabeth Roxanne Haysom. 125 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,480 Elizabeth was ten years younger than her half-siblings. 126 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:32,600 She dressed in all black. 127 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:38,600 And she had earrings, short hair. It was very spiky. 128 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,840 She was just kind of punky and bubbly. 129 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,400 She lit up a room when she walked in it, and you knew she was there. 130 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,400 So, she was a lot like her mom in that respect. 131 00:08:53,680 --> 00:08:55,360 I think Elizabeth really loved her mother. 132 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,880 I would see them walking hand-in-hand, 133 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,360 you know, like schoolgirls, down the street. 134 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:07,320 I'd see her spending time with her father on the front porch, talking. 135 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,320 So, that night, I really felt like, "This is awful." 136 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,440 She was 20 years old and lost both of her parents 137 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,080 and in such a way. 138 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,656 For the Bedford County Sheriff's Department, 139 00:09:23,680 --> 00:09:25,280 their work has just begun. 140 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,800 They'll be working all through the night, trying to piece evidence together. 141 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,000 I'm Chuck Reid. Uh... 142 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,960 {n8}I've been in law enforcement for 30 years. 143 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,000 {n8}I originally started out in 1980 144 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:42,720 with the Bedford County Sheriff's Office. 145 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,720 I'd worked several homicides prior to that, 146 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,480 but that was probably the worst. 147 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,600 There it is, y'all. 148 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,400 You know, I was, like, in my thirties, 149 00:10:03,560 --> 00:10:06,360 and Ricky was in his twenties, I guess. It's been many years ago. 150 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,640 {n8}I was probably the fourth or fifth officer on the scene. 151 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,880 My first assignment was to canvas the neighbors, 152 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,320 asking them if they knew the Haysom's, and if they'd seen anything that day. 153 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,240 It was probably six o'clock that evening 154 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,120 when I was allowed to go inside the residence, 155 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,120 um, walked in the front door. 156 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,440 It was just... It... I'd never seen anything like that before. 157 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:48,760 {n8}I can still see and visualize everything, just almost perfectly. 158 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,720 You don't forget things like that. 159 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,560 You step in, and it's like a slaughterhouse. 160 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,600 A scene like that, you can smell it and you can taste it... 161 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:04,960 ...when there's that much blood. 162 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,680 You were just kind of overcome with emotion. 163 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,280 I was thinking it was a group or a gang of people 164 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:17,560 who came in here and did this. 165 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,720 Mr. Haysom was stabbed 36 times, and his throat was cut from ear to ear. 166 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,400 Severed every major structure in his neck. 167 00:11:26,680 --> 00:11:28,600 They were almost decapitated. 168 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:37,760 The thing that made the biggest impression to me 169 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,760 was at how she died. 170 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,680 Her throat was cut from behind. 171 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,120 She had a gold necklace on. It was probably about as big as my pinky, 172 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,480 and it was down in her windpipe. 173 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,360 The blood in the kitchen floors was so thick and so deep 174 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,720 that it had actually pooled up away from the floor. 175 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,600 These people were not simply killed. 176 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,840 There was a lot of hatred here. 177 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,000 We took over a thousand pictures of this scene. 178 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,800 Went to Richmond to get them developed. 179 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:25,840 They have a unit down there that investigates satanic... killings. 180 00:12:27,560 --> 00:12:29,880 They started picking out stuff in the pictures. 181 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,640 {n8}Mr. Haysom had a V cut in his chin. 182 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,000 {n8}Markings in the floor beside of Mr. Haysom, 183 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,600 like a 666, the way the body was rubbed 184 00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:45,840 and smeared around the contour of the body. 185 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:50,120 And according to them, that was another aspect of satanic. 186 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,560 {n8}From then on, Bedford County was not the same. 187 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:58,960 {n8}Voodoo, black magic, 188 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,880 {n8}you know, fear of the unknown when somebody dies, 189 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,200 that... that gets your juices flowing. 190 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,760 Everybody was looking at everybody. 191 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,720 There were all kinds of stupid things that came up, 192 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:21,320 and, uh, it was... ridiculous, but... 193 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,480 that's what happens. 194 00:13:24,680 --> 00:13:27,680 {n8}We were so shocked about the whole thing. 195 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,280 {n8}We just didn't know what to think. 196 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,640 We held onto all of our information. 197 00:13:46,680 --> 00:13:49,720 {n8}It was not a good time to be wearing a uniform. 198 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,320 {n8}There was a lot of pressure. 199 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,656 Investigators really don't know all that much more 200 00:13:57,680 --> 00:13:59,760 than they did when the bodies were discovered. 201 00:13:59,960 --> 00:14:03,480 But it is hoped that by checking every detail meticulously, 202 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,760 sooner or later, a breakthrough will occur. 203 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,240 {n8}Ricky and I lived this case. 204 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,760 {n8}I'd wake up at two or three o'clock in the morning, 205 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,656 {n8}just sit up on the side of the bed, just thinking, 206 00:14:12,680 --> 00:14:13,680 "What do we need to do?" 207 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,320 It was very obvious to us there was no forced entry. 208 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,240 There was a little storage space under the stairs. 209 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,880 And that's where we found Mrs. Haysom's pocketbook. 210 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,560 Money was in it. Nothing stolen, nothing taken. 211 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,760 And no forced entry, then that tells you right there 212 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,200 that they didn't kill these people because of robbery. 213 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,720 Well, of course, there were... there was tons of evidence. 214 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,800 We sent truckloads of things to the lab. 215 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,600 There was a local fire marshal here 216 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,080 and I was sent to him and got his saw. 217 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,880 I didn't even know what it was for at the time. 218 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,160 I found out later 219 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,496 that they were actually cutting the footprint up out of the... 220 00:14:58,520 --> 00:14:59,760 up out of the floor. 221 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,280 In the bathroom, there was blood found. 222 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,160 So, someone took a shower before they left. 223 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,360 It was hair that was found in the sink there. 224 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,080 That was tested. It didn't match Mr. or Mrs. Haysom. 225 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,040 That tells me, that whoever was there knows that place 226 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,480 and knows to be relaxed enough that I can do this 227 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,680 and nobody is going to be coming around to bother me. 228 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:31,280 You could see Mr. Haysom lying out of the dining room, 229 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,040 just inside the living room door. 230 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:37,760 Into the dining room, you could see 231 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,520 where the floor was just smeared with blood. 232 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,016 The place settings were still on the dining room table. 233 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,000 The chairs were pushed back from the table. 234 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:47,840 There was only two place settings there. 235 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,960 You can see Mrs. Haysom lying on the kitchen floor 236 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,320 with a similar wound, as far as the throat was concerned. 237 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,720 We had 18 or 19 investigators working on this case. 238 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,320 You know, we didn't... we didn't leave any stone unturned. 239 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:25,400 Everyone felt extremely sorry for Elizabeth. 240 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,440 She organized the funeral. 241 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:33,320 She arranged what would happen at the funeral. 242 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,280 During the service, 243 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,360 she got up and read a passage out of the Bible. 244 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,440 Everyone had a lot of empathy for her. 245 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,560 Everybody loved Elizabeth because she was the youngest. 246 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,640 She kind of pulled all the... the family members together. 247 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:12,240 She came across as a very loving daughter 248 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,920 who really loved her family, her parents. 249 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,120 {n8}Basically, expressed to us that she worshipped her parents 250 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,240 {n8}and was thankful for all that they had done for her. 251 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,920 I talked to Elizabeth five days after the bodies were found. 252 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,120 It was just an informational type interview. 253 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:36,720 It wasn't anything accusatory. 254 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,256 Chief, could I bum one off you? 255 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,440 Yes, ma'am. 256 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,760 The front door to your house, was that kept locked or... 257 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,000 Only when they went to bed. 258 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,880 Did they have a maid or anything that came in? 259 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,440 They tried that and... but he just found it uncomfortable, 260 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,440 having such a small house. 261 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,440 Did your mother like to keep house? 262 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:03,896 - No. - She didn't like to keep house? 263 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:05,696 She was brought up with servants. Both my parents 264 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:06,920 were brought up with servants. 265 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:11,600 Her accent was impressive. Obviously, she was very intelligent. 266 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,080 Did your father have money coming in? 267 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,720 He had a couple of pensions. 268 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,440 I think they were fairly pathetic. 269 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:19,896 I mean, I think he got something like, 270 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,800 I don't know, 150 dollars a year or something, you know. 271 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,440 Their money basically came from capital. 272 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,240 I mean, they still sent me on, 273 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,000 you know, a thousand-dollar trip to Yugoslavia, you know. 274 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,880 She never showed any emotion whatsoever. 275 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,160 Which was a little strange to me. 276 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,760 We asked her where she was that weekend, 277 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:41,480 and she explained to us 278 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,960 that she was a freshman at the University of Virginia, 279 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:45,760 and she had a boyfriend 280 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,520 by the name of Jens Soering who was the son of a German diplomat. 281 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,040 That particular weekend, they rented a car in Charlottesville 282 00:18:54,120 --> 00:18:55,880 and drove up to Washington D.C., 283 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,560 you know, sightseeing around D.C. 284 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,440 and then drove back to Charlottesville on Sunday. 285 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,200 We wrote that down and sort of put that in a memory bank 286 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:08,640 for later. 287 00:19:10,120 --> 00:19:13,680 Well, a couple days after our initial interview with Elizabeth, 288 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,880 we got the rental car agreement. 289 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,920 We found that there had been 669 miles put on that car that weekend. 290 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,056 I'm sitting there thinking, "Wait a minute, 291 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,800 it's about a hundred-mile drive to D.C." 292 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,440 But it was like 440 some extra miles on the car. 293 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,200 And that's another thing was strange to me. 294 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,880 Myself and one of the other investigators drove to Charlottesville 295 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,760 and met Elizabeth to get a second interview. 296 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,600 Elizabeth gave her fingerprints. She was more than cooperative. 297 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,360 I said, "We need to talk a little bit more about this rental car." 298 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,120 She explained that her and her boyfriend had gotten lost 299 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,640 several times over the weekend. 300 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,160 If you get on Route 29 at Charlottesville, 301 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,040 that's going to take you straight into Washington D.C. 302 00:20:13,120 --> 00:20:15,200 So, how can anybody get lost? 303 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,240 Things just... just didn't add up. 304 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:25,120 It's approximately 120 miles from Charlottesville to Washington D.C., 305 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,160 240 miles round trip. 306 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:36,040 Then we added in the miles to Loose Chippings back to D.C. 307 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:39,400 And Charlottesville. 308 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,280 And it was pretty close to 669 miles. 309 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,280 That was the big thing. 310 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,880 That kind of threw up a red light right there. 311 00:20:51,360 --> 00:20:54,080 I said, "How can we get ahold of this Jens fellow?" 312 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,680 And she said that he was quite busy and she would have him contact us. 313 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,040 He never did that. 314 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:02,600 He never would call us back. 315 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,760 We would go to Charlottesville to his apartment, 316 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,360 and he wouldn't be there. 317 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,560 So, one of the priorities we put at the top of the list 318 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,160 was to sit down and talk to this, uh, Jens Soering 319 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,960 because he obviously was avoiding us. 320 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,440 I came to the University of Virginia as an Echols scholar. 321 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:48,320 The Echols Scholars Program brings in the top 6% of the entering class 322 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,440 and puts them all in the first-year dorm together. 323 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,880 It's an intense and... and heady sort of time. 324 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,720 You're in a whole dorm full of the smartest kids in the school, 325 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,640 you know, coming from everywhere. 326 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,120 {n8}In 1984, Jens Soering and Elizabeth Haysom 327 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,480 {n8}came to college as Echols scholars one year behind me. 328 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,560 Jens was from a diplomatic household. 329 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:30,160 His father had been dispatched from Germany to the Atlanta area. 330 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,360 Jens went to a very good private high school. 331 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,040 Jens was both an Echols scholar and a Jefferson scholar. 332 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:47,480 The Jefferson Program actually provides a full academic free ride. 333 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,920 The friends that Elizabeth and Jens and I had in common 334 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,800 continue to marvel to this day, continue to say, 335 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,280 "We don't know what she saw in him." 336 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,760 Everybody was surprised that these two ended up together. 337 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,960 Many people have said, 338 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,320 "You don't even want to be in the room with Jens." 339 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,840 He is so argumentative and so arrogant, 340 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,200 no one liked him. 341 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:47,160 Can you describe the first evening with her? How you met? 342 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:50,720 {n8}Yes. 343 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,280 {n8}Yes, so... 344 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,080 25th August, 345 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,920 1984 was my first day at the University of Virginia. 346 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:10,800 We were all carrying our few belongings into the student dorm. 347 00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:16,880 And I saw a female student. 348 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,640 She was really hot. 349 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:20,760 So, I started chatting to her. 350 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:22,800 Um... 351 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:28,720 Briefly, I saw her roommate. 352 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,920 That roommate was Elizabeth Haysom. 353 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,120 She looked totally different from all the other students. 354 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,400 She looked like she hadn't washed. 355 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,440 Um... 356 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,760 With her ruffled-up hair. Um... 357 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,080 She was always going outside to smoke. Of course, none of us others smoked. 358 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,880 She spoke differently too. She had this British accent. 359 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,960 I met him the very first day I was there. 360 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,840 There was a barbecue for the Echols scholars in the evening. 361 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:02,840 And I was introduced to him. 362 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,360 My very first thought of him was that he was... 363 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,320 he was very rude. 364 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,680 He was very hostile, he was very aggressive. 365 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,120 But he was also very brilliant. 366 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,160 He was introduced to me as the German. And I think... 367 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:20,600 that appealed to me. 368 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,040 We were all nerds. We were all the same. 369 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,160 But she'd led this crazy life. 370 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:33,160 She went to a British boarding school and ran away with her lesbian friend. 371 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,720 They travelled back and forth across Europe for a year and a half. 372 00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:39,280 Um... 373 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,360 And she shot heroin. That's what she told us. 374 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,280 So, here was a young woman who was very attractive, 375 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,760 but who was also a foreigner. 376 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,160 So, like me, 377 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,680 she was also a bit of an outsider. 378 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,400 Elizabeth was two and a half years older than me. 379 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,920 At 18, that's a big difference. 380 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,760 Lots of boys were in love with her. 381 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,080 Some girls too, because she said she was a lesbian. 382 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,680 Of course, we were always thinking about literature. 383 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,040 I wanted to learn from her. 384 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,440 I only wrote articles for the school paper. 385 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,240 She was writing a whole novel. I thought that was great. 386 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:40,320 "Dear Jens... Jens, I love you." 387 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,640 "I love you selfishly, and I love you with pain." 388 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,800 {n8}"For ten years, I've been despising myself and you changed that." 389 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,120 "All my defenses are down." 390 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,000 "You are the only person I've ever loved." 391 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,160 It was a real shock for me. 392 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,440 I admired her so. 393 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,456 "Age and decrepitude 394 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:05,800 can have no terrors for me." 395 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,240 "Loss and vicissitude cannot appall me." 396 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,080 "Not even death can dismay me." 397 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,480 "Fixed in the certainty of love unchanging, 398 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,960 I feel utterly secure in you." 399 00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:20,840 "I am a part of you." 400 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:23,560 "Elizabeth." 401 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:32,560 "Dear Liz, 402 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:34,760 {n8}I do love you." 403 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,040 {n8}"I do love you more than I have loved anybody, 404 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,880 {n8}and I love you differently than I've loved anybody before." 405 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,520 "You have been there to prop me up as I was just about to go under." 406 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,920 "I love you forever and ever. Yours, Jens." 407 00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,280 For the first time, 408 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,720 I had the feeling, "Here's someone who accepts me." 409 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,080 Despite all my weaknesses, she loved me. 410 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,680 That affirmation was one factor. 411 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,200 The other, to be quite honest, was sex. 412 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,320 It was the first time in my life... 413 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,160 I had sexual intercourse. 414 00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:39,200 On their return from the summer break in September, 415 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,000 I phoned Elizabeth in Charlottesville at school. 416 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,600 Ricky and I, we went to UVA, 417 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,960 talked to Elizabeth and we got her footprints and her blood. 418 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,840 Everyone we had as a person of interest, we got their footprints 419 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,640 and compared those to the suspect prints at the scene. 420 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,800 That's what a criminal investigation is, 421 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,320 you're trying to eliminate people. 422 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,400 And if you eliminate people, then you can move on to the next person. 423 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:22,280 Jens finally did agree to drive to Bedford County on October 6th. 424 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,640 When he walked into the office that day, he was like... 425 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,360 a little nerd. 426 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,080 His cheeks were real rosy, real timid. 427 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,680 With the big, thick, black-framed glasses and... 428 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,200 He's a kid. 429 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,480 Just like a little momma's boy. 430 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,840 We took about a four-hour interview with him. 431 00:29:55,320 --> 00:30:00,480 You've got about 400 unaccountable miles on the car, okay? 432 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,680 Y'all must have been pretty lost to put 429 extra miles on the car. 433 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:09,360 Well, I don't recall any major trips, but... 434 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,960 we did a lot of driving around Washington, looking at the sights. 435 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,880 Okay? Because it was drizzling. And, um, it was really nasty. 436 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,480 It was... It was cold and not nice. 437 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,400 It was getting to the point where I was, 438 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,400 you know, I was just... "I don't believe you." 439 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:24,960 We need your fingerprints. 440 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,160 Then we need your anatomical footprints, and we need your blood. 441 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,760 Um... Being German, I don't like police. 442 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,800 My grandfather was hassled a lot by the Nazis, okay? 443 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,160 He thought that he was just smarter than what we were. 444 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,560 He didn't realize that we didn't fall off a turnip truck yesterday. 445 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,640 We had decided that we were gonna do 446 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:48,840 the good cop, bad cop. 447 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,296 I let it be known that I thought he had something to do with the murders. 448 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,600 This guy, Reid, was taking Jens' side. 449 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,600 Well, I'm 99% sure at this point that you did not do it. 450 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,960 I can't say 100% because we haven't got your blood 451 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,040 or footprints to send for elimination. 452 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,240 Okay. Well, the thing is, 453 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:15,080 I feel very threatened by the idea that it could have potential effects 454 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,800 on my family, on me and on my future. 455 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,336 We could go talk to the Commonwealth's Attorney 456 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,800 with the evidence we have right now. 457 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,720 Okay, I'm going to be point-blank, 458 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,480 - and it's on tape. - Sure. 459 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,360 And if... if tit came to tat, 460 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,400 then there would be problems, I'm sure. 461 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,200 - We could go that route. - Mm-hm. 462 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,480 You know, and ruin your future. 463 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,440 So, when he left that day, 464 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,280 he told me, he said, "Look." He said, "Let me go back to university." 465 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:48,440 "I'll think about it and give you a call and let you know what I've decided to do." 466 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,960 I got a call about ten o'clock, Sunday night. 467 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,320 We needed to get to Charlottesville, 468 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,680 that Elizabeth and Jens had skipped the country. 469 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,640 And when they ran, all suspicion went out the window. 470 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,600 Everybody thought, "Ah, they did it." 471 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,880 The car had been found in the parking garage at the airport. 472 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,120 I contacted Interpol. 473 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,896 Just told them, "We don't have enough to get warrants for them." 474 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,600 "We have no idea where they are." 475 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,240 We met up in Paris. 476 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:44,960 From there, we drove to Luxembourg. 477 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,600 From Luxembourg to Yugoslavia. 478 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,560 From Yugoslavia to Italy. 479 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,240 "Dearest all, what is the point to life 480 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,960 if we forsake those who love and trust us most?" 481 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,080 "I must destroy my way of life here." 482 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,240 "I must follow and support Jens." 483 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,760 "We believe in the same things 484 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,000 {n8}and are searching for a similar life." 485 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,800 Elizabeth and Jens had left letters for their family 486 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,760 and for the investigators. 487 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,760 "Dear Officers Reid and Gardner." 488 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,280 "I'm certain that sooner or later you will become involved 489 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,920 in whatever investigation may be made into my disappearance." 490 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,040 "I assume that, especially you Mr. Gardner, 491 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,920 {n8}will be very excited by now, which is why I hate to disappoint you." 492 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,280 {n8}"Well, that's not exactly true." 493 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,800 "I'm afraid you must remain, as Officer Reid put it, 494 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,760 only 99% sure of my innocence." 495 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,680 And then we flew from Austria to Thailand. 496 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,960 We thought we could get jobs there, and I could take Thai citizenship 497 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,400 because I was born there. But it didn't work out. 498 00:34:08,720 --> 00:34:13,440 So, we flew from Thailand via Malaysia to England. 499 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,280 While on the run, we thought the whole world was looking for us. 500 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,760 That meant we had no choice but to stick together 501 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,480 and isolate ourselves from everybody else. 502 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,840 We couldn't talk to anybody 503 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,440 because we had this terrible secret. 504 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,200 We automatically assumed, we'll let something slip. 505 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,400 Our money ran out. 506 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,720 And we were afraid of taking normal jobs. 507 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,960 Um... We thought... 508 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,280 "Oh, boy! You're in trouble now." 509 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,960 I worked at the time in a small police station 510 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,840 in Richmond, London. 511 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,880 I'd been working there for almost a year in the criminal investigation department. 512 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:29,280 {n8}A lot of the time, it's not so exciting. We're not racing around in fast cars 513 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,880 {n8}and doing this, and doing all sorts of Starsky and Hutch moves. We're not. 514 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:35,800 A lot of it is paperwork. 515 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,560 It was just a normal mundane day. 516 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,920 But it was the telephone on my desk that rang. 517 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,720 A store detective from a local store 518 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,560 had become highly suspicious 519 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,840 of a young couple purchasing goods in the store. 520 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:58,920 I knew the store detective, 521 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,400 and I knew she was very, very good at her job. 522 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,800 And I said, "If she was suspicious, 523 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,360 arrest them and bring them into the police station." 524 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,320 The female suspect was most indignant, but... 525 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,920 something was... something was wrong. 526 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,840 We started to question them both 527 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,080 and we discovered an address that they were living at. 528 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,120 We took him, and we went and searched the apartment. 529 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,000 We did find several other bags of clothing. 530 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:42,440 Wigs. 531 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,920 False identifications. 532 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,640 We found his passport in the name of Jens Soering, 533 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:54,440 and another passport in the name of Elizabeth Roxanne Haysom. 534 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,400 From that point, the picture started coming together. 535 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,120 Thailand was the place where they had a lot of forgeries made. 536 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,360 Driver's licenses, student cards. 537 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,280 Which allowed them to get a checkbook. 538 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,120 They were buying clothing on a check. 539 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,400 And then they took that clothing back, saying it didn't fit 540 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,680 or it wasn't the style that they really wanted. 541 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,360 They were getting cash back. 542 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,920 Most certainly, the fraud was successful. 543 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,600 Their gain was in the region of about 6,000 pounds. 544 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,600 I just don't know how they hit on the idea, but they knew the system. 545 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,200 In the apartment, we found lots and lots of lots of letters. 546 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:47,840 Diaries. 547 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,440 We didn't know whether the letters were part of the fraud, 548 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,000 so we decided to put everything together 549 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,920 and study it at a later date. 550 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,480 Time went on, of course, but my colleague, Terry Wright, 551 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,920 who was a detective constable, he was reading the letters. 552 00:38:05,720 --> 00:38:10,200 Picking out various extracts, which really led him to think 553 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,080 that something untowards had happened in Virginia. 554 00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:22,680 The letters were quite lengthy, 555 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,400 and some of them were written in diary form. 556 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:28,920 "My dearest Jens, 557 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,160 a day of raining loneliness." 558 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,400 "This morning, I built my father a desk for his computer." 559 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,320 "It took all morning." 560 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:39,400 "I didn't smoke." 561 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,760 And then right out of the blue, there were these little extracts 562 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,920 that gave us the clue to what was happening. 563 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,560 "My parents began to drink." 564 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,400 "My mother begins her sixth gin." 565 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,160 "I pray she'll use the poker on my cold, goading father." 566 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,560 {n8}"Would it be possible to hypnotize my parents, 567 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,040 {n8}do voodoo on them, will them to death?" 568 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,680 "Why don't my parents just lie down and die?" 569 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,760 "I despise them so much." 570 00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:17,680 That letter was before the Christmas of 1984. 571 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,400 And then, of course, 572 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,720 we found another letter back from Jens to Elizabeth. 573 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,200 "Dear Liz, I love you. Je t'aime. Ich liebe dich." 574 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,200 "Love is a form of meditation 575 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,000 and the ultimate weapon against your parents." 576 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,040 "Depending on his mental and emotional flexibility, 577 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:46,840 your father, for example, 578 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,320 could quite well die from a confrontation with it." 579 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,800 "My God, how I've got the dinner scene planned out." 580 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,960 "By the way, yes, voodoo, etc. is possible." 581 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,880 There's no doubt about it. Those letters turn this case. 582 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:13,840 If Terry hadn't gone through those letters, word by word, 583 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,600 he would have never made the telephone call to Ricky Gardner. 584 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,840 May 25th of 1986... 585 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,320 I received a telephone call from a detective constable, Terry Wright. 586 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,960 Of course, he'd seen the mention of two names, 587 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,840 of, uh, Gardner and Reid, amongst diary entries. 588 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,680 From that point on, he did a lot of work to... to find him. 589 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,360 He asked me if I knew Jens or Elizabeth Haysom, 590 00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:48,560 and I said, "Sure, I do." 591 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,720 Second question he asked me was, "Are her parents dead?" 592 00:40:53,720 --> 00:40:55,280 And I said, "Yes, they are." 593 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,280 And he said, "Well, let me ask you," he said, "Were they murdered?" 594 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:00,440 "Yes." 595 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,800 And he said, "Well, perhaps you might want to fly over to London." 596 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,000 "I believe we have the murderers locked up here, 597 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,000 and you may want to come over and talk to them." 598 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,400 Well, you know, I'm not believing this is happening. 599 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,456 I said, "You stay right where you are." 600 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,256 And I said, "I'll call you back within an hour." 601 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,536 "Don't move. Don't leave the phone, I'll call you right back." 602 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,960 I mean, you know, "Who are you again?" You know? Right. 603 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,240 So, I drove up to the courthouse 604 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,160 to Commonwealth's Attorney, Jim Updike's office 605 00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:28,920 and I started telling him. I said, "I just got off the phone with... 606 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,920 and then he told me... And Jens and Elizabeth's in jail in England, 607 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,280 and I... You know, we got to go over there". 608 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,936 The London Daily Mail screamed the news, 609 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,960 Elizabeth Haysom and Jens Soering 610 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:48,680 are being held in a London jail. 611 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,496 The two were arrested for writing 612 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,600 about six thousand dollars in bad checks. 613 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,920 The story exploded, 614 00:41:55,240 --> 00:41:57,760 and media from all over the world 615 00:41:58,600 --> 00:41:59,760 got interested. 616 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,600 The voodoo killings. 617 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:09,520 Suddenly, Elizabeth was, quote, unquote, "an heiress of the Astors," 618 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,240 {n8}and Jens was her lover. 619 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,096 Sheriff's investigator Ricky Gardner 620 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,880 and Commonwealth's Attorney James Updike are in London. 621 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,280 According to Scotland Yard, they may question 622 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:24,240 the 23-year-old Haysom girl and 19-year-old Jens Soering today 623 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,880 at the Richmond Police Station in Southwest London. 624 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,960 More than a year after the murders, police are hoping that by questioning 625 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,160 their daughter and her boyfriend in London, 626 00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:38,560 they're able to close the final chapter on the bizarre case once and for all. 627 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,360 Over the next three days, 628 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:52,440 we interviewed Jens and Elizabeth four, five times, keeping them separate. 629 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,480 They were never allowed to be in the same room. 630 00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,840 Elizabeth was brought into the interview room 631 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,480 with her solicitor. 632 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,120 She saw those letters laying out on their desk. 633 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,680 That was the ammunition that we were gonna use. 634 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,376 She wouldn't answer any questions at all. 635 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,720 She would shake her head, nod her head. 636 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,360 She went from being very cooperative to not cooperative at all. 637 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,520 And so, we had to start talking to Jens. 638 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,680 He knew his rights, and he chose not to have a solicitor. 639 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,200 Always, throughout the four days, 640 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,720 he maintained a level of confidence. 641 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,960 And he was always in full control. 642 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,920 The following statement is being taken from Jens Soering 643 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,480 on June 5th, 1986. 644 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,240 Okay, uh, Jens, let's start with Friday, 645 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,680 which was March 29th... 646 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,296 - Right. - ...1985. 647 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,280 We picked up from that interview in Bedford 648 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,600 and started talking about the rental car again. 649 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,000 Well, we drove to Washington D.C. 650 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,400 and checked into a motel. 651 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:16,920 And the next day, I drove in a rented car back down to, uh... 652 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,480 - Lynchburg. - Lynchburg. 653 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,280 And to be... can you be more specific? Lynchburg... 654 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,240 At, um, the residence of Derek and Nancy Haysom. 655 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:28,360 Okay. 656 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,280 He was always very, very careful how he answered questions. 657 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,120 Now was anyone with you? 658 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,080 No, absolutely not. 659 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,720 You left Elizabeth in... in Washington? 660 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,480 Yes, Elizabeth stayed in D.C. 661 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,600 Um... Going to cinema. 662 00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:52,960 Was she preparing an alibi? 663 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:54,320 Um... 664 00:44:55,240 --> 00:44:57,960 He wanted to stress that Elizabeth wasn't there. 665 00:44:58,600 --> 00:44:59,960 He went alone. 666 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,241 Did Elizabeth know where you were going? 667 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,481 Oh, yes. She knew where I was going, right. 668 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,240 Did she know the reason you was going there? 669 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,320 I don't think... 670 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,560 that either she or I 671 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:25,640 were truly clear about what was going to happen. 672 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,760 God knows, I was not at all... 673 00:45:30,240 --> 00:45:31,240 set. 674 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:35,400 Set to do what? 675 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:40,680 Set to kill them. 676 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,240 He asked if the tape could be turned off, 677 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,400 and that happened numerous times. 678 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,200 Then the Sunday, the 8th, I believe, 679 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,760 he made a confession to Ricky Gardner but off tape. 680 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,560 He wouldn't let me record it, he wouldn't let me take any notes. 681 00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:14,200 So, then we went through it a second time with Beever and Wright in the room. 682 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,640 Jens re-enacted the murder 683 00:46:17,720 --> 00:46:19,880 and told us everything that had taken place. 684 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,080 And it got to the very, very end of the interview 685 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,320 and Terry's made this note. 686 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,440 This is what Jens said to us. 687 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:29,840 "I fell in love with a girl." 688 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,560 "We talked about killing her parents." 689 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,320 "I drove to her house and killed them." 690 00:46:37,240 --> 00:46:38,360 "I got caught." 691 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,680 Today, we presented indictments on both 692 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:53,480 Jens and Elizabeth for murder. 693 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,720 After he confessed that Sunday evening, 694 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,120 she rang the bell and wanted to talk. 695 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:06,840 She wanted to make it clear that they were both equally as guilty. 696 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,880 Elizabeth Haysom faces two first-degree murder charges. 697 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,520 Jens Soering, two murder charges plus capital murder. 698 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,160 He faces the death penalty. 699 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,056 Prosecutor Jim Updike says there's no timetable 700 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:25,600 on extradition proceedings. 701 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,600 It'll have to wait until British authorities 702 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,760 are through with their own charges before they will be released. 703 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,120 In jail in England, 704 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,520 Elizabeth wrote Jens a letter, severing their relationship. 705 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,840 She said, "Look, I'm going to go back to Virginia." 706 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,560 "I'm going to admit to my part in my parents' death." 707 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,240 "I don't love you anymore." 708 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:51,360 "You're on your own." 709 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,800 We finally got her back in May of 1987. 710 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,256 At about 8:30 tonight, 711 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,680 the plane carrying 23-year-old Elizabeth Haysom 712 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,080 touched down in Roanoke. 713 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:12,080 The former University of Virginia student was extradited by British authorities 714 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:13,920 and brought home by two US Marshals. 715 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,400 I went over to the jail to visit with her. 716 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:29,120 She said to me, "I'm doing okay." And, "I just want to take a deep breath." 717 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,000 And she took a deep breath, and that was it. 718 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,960 She cut off all contact with everybody. 719 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,240 She was very remorseful that her parents were gone. 720 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,000 What say you, are you guilty as charged in the indictment 721 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:48,120 or not guilty? 722 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,040 Guilty as an accessory before the fact. 723 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,160 There was no more worry, no more rumor mill about, 724 00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:56,120 you know, some voodoo killing. 725 00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:57,480 That all went away. 726 00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,920 Elizabeth had made her bed, 727 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,800 and now she's going to have to sleep in it. 728 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,720 {n8}She came into court, very demure with a long dress. 729 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:14,520 Back it up. 730 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,200 With her hair back. Wore black and white. 731 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,840 Black dresses, white dresses, nothing of any color. 732 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:22,600 When she came into the courtroom, 733 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,520 I felt like she was assuming the role of Joan of Arc, 734 00:49:25,720 --> 00:49:29,560 that she was submitting herself to the persecutors. 735 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,720 Here you have a young woman. 736 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,240 She was very bright, she was very brilliant, 737 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,960 and her entire future blew up 738 00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:40,720 right in front of her face. 739 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,480 I just cannot wrap my head around it. 740 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,200 Why... why she would want her parents dead? 741 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,400 People who have given you life? 742 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,680 The questions gotta be that, why did Elizabeth go do this? 743 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,000 I mean, this... this has got to be awful. 744 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:02,960 This has got to be the worst thing in the world. 745 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:04,160 Ms. Haysom, 746 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,240 the major question that I'd like to ask is 747 00:50:08,240 --> 00:50:09,680 why did your parents die? 748 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:22,200 Why? 749 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:23,520 Why? 750 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:24,640 Why? 63130

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