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[suspenseful music]
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I see dead people.
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♪♪
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The one monster that's
in every culture,
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no matter how sophisticated
or primitive
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all around the world,
and that's ghosts.
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Do you believe in ghosts?
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[roaring, groans]
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With "Poltergeist,"
what you get is,
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you get the most thoughtful,
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most thought-out,
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most fun haunted house movie
that's ever been made.
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♪♪
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"The Shining."
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I mean, that is the ultimate
ghost story, is "The Shining."
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- Here's Johnny.
- [gasps]
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I was struck most viscerally
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by the performance
of Jack Nicholson.
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I'm not gonna hurt you.
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I'm just gonna
bash your brains.
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♪♪
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Ah!
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"The Sixth Sense"
is masterful
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in that it really plays
with the ghost story
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- in a very new way.
- Ah!
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He sees ghosts and spirits.
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Stop looking at me.
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People walking around
in their day-to-day life.
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[crashing]
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What "Insidious" has brought
to the genre is a humanity
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which I'm not sure
has been in many
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of the spooky movies
we've seen.
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♪♪
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"The Ring" was
one of those movies
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that had so many
disturbing images...
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♪♪
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...that I could not sleep
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for days after
I saw that movie.
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[gunshot]
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Ghost stories
are always about the way
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the past casts its long shadow
on the present.
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[shrieks]
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They make us question,
is there something else?
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Am I gonna wind up in limbo?
Am I gonna wind up in heaven?
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Or hell?
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♪♪
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Totally getting goose bumps
talking about this.
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[screams]
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[spooky music]
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♪♪
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♪♪
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[chainsaw revs]
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♪♪
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[ominous music]
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It's coming toward us.
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Vampires,
werewolves, zombies.
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People don't really
believe that stuff is real.
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But ghosts,
you ask 99% of the people,
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they're like 100% certain
that they have seen a ghost.
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[screams]
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That there are ghosts,
that they experienced ghosts.
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There are ghosts in the house.
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Oh!
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I mean, the ghost subgenre...
I mean, I think that's why
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it just... it literally
never dies.
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♪♪
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Ghost movies
have been with us
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since the dawn of cinema.
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The first horror film,
"La Manoir du Diable,"
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from 1896,
was a ghost story.
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But until the 1980s, spirits
were rarely seen onscreen.
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And if they were,
they were rarely convincing.
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That all changed
with "Poltergeist."
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They're here.
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Well, "Poltergeist" was one
of the first scary movies
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that I can remember
seeing as a kid.
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I was truly terrified
by that movie
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and I... I'm still to this day
terrified of ghosts.
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I was still a child
when I saw it.
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I really connected
to that story,
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the magical of uncertainty
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of the afterlife
and... and spirits.
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♪♪
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"Poltergeist" is
a haunted house movie
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that took place
in the suburbs,
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that was in the least scary
place possible.
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- I'm out of here.
- Bye.
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The family lives
in the San Fernando Valley,
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that gets plagued by spirits
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because of the area where they
live was built on a graveyard
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that is getting back at 'em.
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Don't worry about it.
After all,
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it's not ancient tribal
burial ground,
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it's just... people.
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"Poltergeist" is a really
fascinating one for me.
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It's like taking sort of,
almost like,
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decades of horror filmmaking,
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and constructing it into,
like, this pure rollercoaster.
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- No [screams].
- [roars]
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[screams]
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Took the director of
"Texas Chainsaw Massacre,"
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Tobe Hooper,
and you took Steven Spielberg,
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the director of "Jaws,"
"Raiders of the Lost Ark,"
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that was the biggest
horror event
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of my childhood,
that movie.
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And this stuff all works
as long as the audience
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can find some logic for it.
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Steven just brings this
enthusiasm and this energy
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to the thing.
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And then Tobe is, like,
figuring out the logistics
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and... and how the shot's gonna
look and all of that.
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What happens to that family
is so Tobe.
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But that family is definitely
more Spielbergian.
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Before, after,
before, after, before.
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[laughing] Let me see
your tuck position.
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The important thing
was the kinetic family,
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and the cohesiveness,
and keeping it light,
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until it starts getting heavy.
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[ominous music]
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"Poltergeist"
is a movie about
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the tremendous
guilt and shame we feel
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about leaving our
children in front of the TV,
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letting the TV be
the babysitter.
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We know it's wrong.
We do it anyway.
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That scene where the little
girl is standing in front
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of the, uh... the television,
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and it reaches out
to molest her.
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♪♪
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Kind of a dawning
realization that we might be
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sacrificing our... our children
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in front of, uh,
this glowing screen.
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♪♪
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I think what Steven and his
collaborators predicted
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with "Poltergeist" is... is true.
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We've all fallen
into our television.
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- [yelps]
- Mommy.
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I can't see you, Mommy.
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Where are you?
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Their young daughter
gets trapped
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between this world
and the next.
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Your daughter is alive
and in this house.
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During the course
of the film,
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the mother literally
goes to hell
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to rescue her daughter
from the beast.
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[roars]
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[screams]
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[whooshing]
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[suspenseful music]
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♪♪
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Pull.
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- Phew! Great.
- Real nice.
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The good fortune of
"Poltergeist" was that
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it did have the budget to allow
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the filmmakers to express
their imagination on film.
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A spirit coming down
the stairs for the first time.
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Feeling of the... of the body
and the arms coming up.
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Just when we begin
to see the fingers,
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it goes whoosh,
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breaks up like blowing
a smoke ring apart in the air.
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Anything that Tobe
and Steven could think of
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that belonged in the movie
was in the movie.
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♪♪
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both: [screaming]
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But there's no CGI
in "Poltergeist."
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[whimpering]
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[grunts]
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God.
The face-tearing scene,
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that whole sequence
you can see the three pieces.
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There's me with
the little scratches.
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[ominous music]
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Then there's me with this
giant prosthetic on my face
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that I pull off and pull
strips of it off,
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and then there's
this really cool dummy
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that looks like me,
which is actually
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this dummy with Steven
Spielberg's hands underneath
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pulling all this gunk off.
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♪♪
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When they showed it
to me the first time,
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I just burst out laughing,
and the... the...
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one of the sound designers
said, "What's so funny?"
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And I said, "Everyone's
gonna remember this scene.
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"I just pulled my face off
and it fell in the sink."
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[whooshing]
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[laughs]
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All sorts of
different effects.
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Opticals,
forced perspective sets,
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contrazoom when JoBeth Williams
is running down the corridor,
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and also, brilliant
practical effects.
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[lighting roars]
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Oh, yeah, boy, that tree.
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♪♪
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Steven had this image,
'cause when he was a kid,
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there was a tree outside
his bedroom window
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that scared
the crap out of him,
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and so that tree
had to be there.
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It was a rubber tree.
For some reason,
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they put these,
like, knobs in there.
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These little prickly things.
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Well, obviously, the tree,
kind of climb up,
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and kind of, um, like,
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scratching you
and pouring rain
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and you got the wind machines
and the lightning
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and... [snorts]
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things are going off,
and I'm going, Jeez.
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- Look out.
- My leg!
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For me,
the tree coming alive,
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uh, was very vivid
and visceral,
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and so every time I sort of
looked out the window,
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and the moonlight was just so,
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I would constantly picture
that tree.
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[whooshing]
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I'm still pissed off
about the tree.
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That tree was
the hardest thing to deal with
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in the whole movie.
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Except for the pool.
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My God.
[breathes heavily]
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The swimming pool.
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Be careful, honey.
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Craig Raiche, the prop guy,
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stashed all these skeletons
all over the place.
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[dramatic musical flourish]
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[screams]
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We did a take and went
to Craig and I says,
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"Hey, Craig," I s... you know,
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"you don't need to make them
smell like this."
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You know, they... they smelled.
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And he says,
"Well, they're real."
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[whimpering, panting]
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I mean, it's a joke now,
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of something was on
an Indian burial ground
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and so you know
it's gonna be haunted.
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And in "Poltergeist," the great
line at the end of the movie
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is when Craig T. Nelson
grabs James Karen
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and shakes him and says...
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You son of a bitch,
you moved the cemetery
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but you left
the bodies, didn't you?
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You son of the bitch,
you left the bodies
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and you only moved
the headstones!
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You only moved the headstones.
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And I think, in a way,
that says a lot about America,
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that we, uh... we moved
the headstones.
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But the bodies are still there.
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[whooshing]
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The spirit of "Poltergeist"
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lives on in
the "Insidious" series,
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which shows us an afterlife
filled with restless souls.
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Some friendly.
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Some deadly.
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[thump, rattling]
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Slow down.
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James Wan's film "Insidious"
is a ghost story
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for the 21st century.
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It delivers shocks, suspense,
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and genuine emotion
to audiences
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that may think
they've seen it all.
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[whispering]
Give it, give me.
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I want it.
I want it
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[screaming]
now!
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[baby crying]
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[suspenseful music]
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It's a fun thing
to mess with,
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that suburban domestic bliss
that's supposed to exist.
263
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Can you go wake up Dalton?
264
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It's a fun thing
to get in there
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and rip that domestic
bliss away from a family.
266
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Dalton, Dalton.
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Dalton.
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There is no brain damage.
269
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"Insidious" is about
a, uh, mother and a father
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who lose their child
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to a place called
"The Further."
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[ominous music]
273
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What does that mean?
274
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The Further is a world
far beyond our own.
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It's a dark realm filled
with the tortured souls
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of the dead.
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A place not meant
for the living.
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And all these ghosts
that are crowding
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in this family's house are
trying to get into his body.
280
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It's an empty vessel.
281
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And they do everything
in their power
282
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to try and get
their child back.
283
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And that's really about what
you would do as a parent
284
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if you... if you
lost your child,
285
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or if your child got sick.
286
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[baby crying]
[dramatic musical flourish]
287
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[screams] Josh, Josh, Josh,
please, come...
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Twenty minutes
into the movie,
289
00:12:03,202 --> 00:12:04,825
when just as
the audience is saying,
290
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Why on Earth would you not get
out of this house,
291
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the, uh... Patrick Wilson says
to Rose Byrne's character...
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We're going.
293
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And they move houses.
294
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[foreboding music]
295
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And the haunting follows them
to their next house.
296
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- [doors slam]
- [gasps]
297
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[giggling]
298
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It's not the house
that's haunted.
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♪♪
300
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It's your son.
301
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♪♪
302
00:12:32,290 --> 00:12:33,764
So it doesn't matter
where they move,
303
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they're gonna be... they're
gonna be haunted
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no matter where they are.
305
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♪♪
306
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[dramatic thump]
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♪♪
308
00:12:44,316 --> 00:12:48,019
So they call upon my
character, Elise Rainier,
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00:12:48,061 --> 00:12:52,514
who is a known ghost hunter,
so to speak.
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I think Elise is distinct
and unusual in the sense
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that, um, I'm not
a typical heroine.
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♪♪
313
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[dramatic musical flourish]
314
00:13:01,544 --> 00:13:03,500
[suspenseful music]
315
00:13:03,542 --> 00:13:04,957
[wheezing]
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00:13:04,997 --> 00:13:06,870
This is how you die.
317
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Not today it isn't.
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[thump]
[grunts]
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[whooshing]
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♪♪
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Come on, bitch.
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♪♪
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What I tried to do was find
the places in myself
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of empathy, of reception.
325
00:13:30,881 --> 00:13:32,879
Elise is a really good
receiver.
326
00:13:32,921 --> 00:13:34,585
She's got a good radio.
327
00:13:34,627 --> 00:13:37,873
We have some help.
328
00:13:37,914 --> 00:13:40,203
Who?
329
00:13:40,244 --> 00:13:43,407
Someone else is here with us.
330
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Mom.
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You know, she's tuned in.
And I believe all people
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have that ability.
333
00:13:50,981 --> 00:13:54,393
I don't think it... it's just,
uh, assigned to a few.
334
00:13:54,435 --> 00:13:57,057
But we're ful...
so full of static
335
00:13:57,098 --> 00:14:00,510
that I think we don't hear
very often at all.
336
00:14:00,552 --> 00:14:03,465
We don't hear each other,
let alone another world.
337
00:14:03,506 --> 00:14:05,504
[whooshing]
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00:14:05,545 --> 00:14:10,955
♪♪
339
00:14:10,997 --> 00:14:14,118
The first "Insidious" score
was a really great experience
340
00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,865
beca... it was... it was...
it's a very pure,
341
00:14:16,906 --> 00:14:20,152
very raw filmmaking experience
all around.
342
00:14:20,193 --> 00:14:22,524
[whooshing]
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both: [grunting]
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00:14:24,188 --> 00:14:26,394
My friend found
this rusted out piano,
345
00:14:26,436 --> 00:14:28,974
and you flick a string,
and just this... just...
346
00:14:29,016 --> 00:14:32,012
eons of just crud
come flying off of it.
347
00:14:32,053 --> 00:14:33,944
It had been abandoned in
the alley behind his studio
348
00:14:33,968 --> 00:14:35,317
for some time
and they dragged it in there
349
00:14:35,341 --> 00:14:37,171
and I got to go in
and record on it.
350
00:14:37,213 --> 00:14:38,961
[rusted piano crash]
351
00:14:39,003 --> 00:14:41,708
So that made up a big part of
the sound of that film.
352
00:14:41,749 --> 00:14:45,203
♪♪
353
00:14:45,245 --> 00:14:48,116
We were so thankful when
"Insidious" was a hit film
354
00:14:48,157 --> 00:14:50,862
- and people really took to it.
- [screams]
355
00:14:50,904 --> 00:14:52,610
Death is the one
inevitable thing.
356
00:14:52,652 --> 00:14:54,275
It's coming for all of us.
357
00:14:54,316 --> 00:14:56,814
There's a human need
to answer that question
358
00:14:56,855 --> 00:14:58,436
of like after death,
and I think
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00:14:58,478 --> 00:15:01,516
ghost films
feed into that.
360
00:15:01,557 --> 00:15:03,305
There's very little
we really know
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00:15:03,347 --> 00:15:05,427
about the spirit world,
if there...
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00:15:05,469 --> 00:15:07,133
whether you believe
in it or not.
363
00:15:07,175 --> 00:15:08,965
I tend to believe
in everything
364
00:15:09,006 --> 00:15:12,127
because I think we know
so little about so much.
365
00:15:12,169 --> 00:15:14,666
all: [screaming, groaning]
366
00:15:14,707 --> 00:15:17,246
[whimpering]
367
00:15:17,287 --> 00:15:18,826
[sheet ripping]
368
00:15:18,868 --> 00:15:20,450
[gasps]
369
00:15:20,492 --> 00:15:22,405
The "Insidious" series
and "Poltergeist"
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00:15:22,447 --> 00:15:25,777
showed us normal families
bonded by a love
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00:15:25,818 --> 00:15:29,105
strong enough to survive
a supernatural attack.
372
00:15:29,147 --> 00:15:32,892
But one of the greatest film
directors of all time,
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00:15:32,934 --> 00:15:35,847
painted a much darker picture
of parenthood
374
00:15:35,889 --> 00:15:37,719
and the afterlife.
375
00:15:42,422 --> 00:15:45,709
The haunted house is
a staple of horror films.
376
00:15:45,751 --> 00:15:47,582
It's usually
a sinister mansion
377
00:15:47,624 --> 00:15:49,496
where murders have
been committed.
378
00:15:49,537 --> 00:15:51,119
Or about to be committed.
379
00:15:51,161 --> 00:15:53,990
This house,
380
00:15:54,032 --> 00:15:56,154
it knows we're here.
381
00:15:56,196 --> 00:15:58,526
Two haunted house movies
loom above the rest.
382
00:15:58,568 --> 00:16:00,025
[suspenseful music]
383
00:16:00,065 --> 00:16:01,855
Stanley Kubrick's
"The Shining,"
384
00:16:01,897 --> 00:16:04,560
and Robert Wise's
"The Haunting."
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00:16:04,602 --> 00:16:06,308
♪♪
386
00:16:06,349 --> 00:16:07,782
Usually ghost stories work
when it's about
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00:16:07,806 --> 00:16:09,637
what you don't see.
388
00:16:09,679 --> 00:16:12,176
And so that's, in a way,
why I probably separated out
389
00:16:12,217 --> 00:16:15,629
what is my absolute favorite
horror movie of all time,
390
00:16:15,671 --> 00:16:18,126
um, which is "The Haunting."
391
00:16:18,168 --> 00:16:20,248
No one who
rented Hill House
392
00:16:20,290 --> 00:16:22,787
ever stayed for
more than a few days.
393
00:16:22,829 --> 00:16:24,742
I just think that's
the ultimate horror movie.
394
00:16:24,784 --> 00:16:27,738
The dead are not quiet
in Hill House.
395
00:16:27,780 --> 00:16:29,820
♪♪
396
00:16:29,862 --> 00:16:32,774
"The Haunting" is
about a group of people
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00:16:32,816 --> 00:16:36,228
who are brought together
in this old, dark house
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00:16:36,270 --> 00:16:39,391
to try to find out
what's at the root
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00:16:39,432 --> 00:16:42,096
of supernatural spirits.
400
00:16:42,138 --> 00:16:45,383
The house is calling you.
401
00:16:45,424 --> 00:16:47,421
It's also about a woman
402
00:16:47,463 --> 00:16:51,458
who has had a very troubled
relationship with her mother,
403
00:16:51,500 --> 00:16:55,537
and who goes away to be
a part of this experience.
404
00:16:55,578 --> 00:16:58,574
Don't let me go.
Stay with me.
405
00:16:58,616 --> 00:17:00,489
♪♪
406
00:17:00,531 --> 00:17:03,527
"The Haunting" works so well
because we don't see anything.
407
00:17:03,568 --> 00:17:06,190
[indistinct speech]
408
00:17:06,232 --> 00:17:08,520
We don't see
the ghosts at work.
409
00:17:08,561 --> 00:17:11,225
We sense, we hear them.
410
00:17:11,266 --> 00:17:14,471
- [indistinct speech]
- Are you awake?
411
00:17:14,513 --> 00:17:16,967
Don't say a word, Theo,
not a word.
412
00:17:17,009 --> 00:17:19,007
Don't let it know
you're in my room.
413
00:17:19,048 --> 00:17:22,627
We are given
complete freedom in our minds
414
00:17:22,668 --> 00:17:24,874
to wander through the house.
415
00:17:24,916 --> 00:17:26,622
[gasps]
416
00:17:26,663 --> 00:17:29,243
And it is one of
the most terrifying films
417
00:17:29,285 --> 00:17:31,865
because of Wise's instinct
418
00:17:31,907 --> 00:17:35,735
to focus on the faces
of those being terrified,
419
00:17:35,777 --> 00:17:38,066
because that is what
you're relating to
420
00:17:38,107 --> 00:17:40,064
and that is what is
informing your emotion,
421
00:17:40,104 --> 00:17:41,852
not the ghosts.
422
00:17:41,894 --> 00:17:43,725
Oh, God, no.
423
00:17:43,767 --> 00:17:47,137
The first movie that
terrified me to the point
424
00:17:47,179 --> 00:17:49,842
where I could barely look at it
was "The Haunting."
425
00:17:49,884 --> 00:17:52,089
I was probably 11 years old,
426
00:17:52,131 --> 00:17:54,128
and you never really
see anything
427
00:17:54,170 --> 00:17:56,293
- until that woman...
- When that door is pounding.
428
00:17:56,333 --> 00:17:58,622
[door pounding]
429
00:17:58,664 --> 00:18:01,660
The door kind of bulges.
430
00:18:01,702 --> 00:18:04,865
♪♪
431
00:18:04,906 --> 00:18:07,736
And finally,
she's going up this rattly,
432
00:18:07,777 --> 00:18:09,941
unsteady spiral staircase,
433
00:18:09,983 --> 00:18:12,896
and the trap door opens
and it's the professor's wife,
434
00:18:12,938 --> 00:18:14,768
and she goes, "Ah!"
435
00:18:14,810 --> 00:18:17,682
Ah!
436
00:18:17,724 --> 00:18:19,762
And I'm thinking, I'm dead.
[chuckles]
437
00:18:19,804 --> 00:18:22,384
I had a heart attack,
I'm never gonna grow up.
438
00:18:22,426 --> 00:18:24,132
♪♪
439
00:18:24,173 --> 00:18:27,128
Of course,
Stephen King did grow up.
440
00:18:27,169 --> 00:18:29,749
And 17 years later,
his second novel
441
00:18:29,791 --> 00:18:32,122
"The Shining" was adapted
for the screen
442
00:18:32,163 --> 00:18:35,701
by the legendary director
Stanley Kubrick.
443
00:18:35,742 --> 00:18:38,197
Like "The Haunting,"
"The Shining" is about
444
00:18:38,239 --> 00:18:40,194
- a bad place.
- [screams]
445
00:18:40,236 --> 00:18:42,108
And the terrible effect it has
446
00:18:42,109 --> 00:18:45,230
on the people
who stay there.
447
00:18:45,271 --> 00:18:47,851
Jack Nicholson
plays Jack Torrance,
448
00:18:47,893 --> 00:18:51,596
an unstable writer who takes
the job of winter caretaker
449
00:18:51,638 --> 00:18:53,843
at the secluded
Overlook Hotel.
450
00:18:53,885 --> 00:18:55,467
[heart beating]
451
00:18:55,509 --> 00:18:57,422
Is there something bad here?
452
00:18:57,464 --> 00:19:00,710
Well...
453
00:19:00,752 --> 00:19:03,207
you know, Doc,
when something happens,
454
00:19:03,248 --> 00:19:06,577
it can leave a trace
of itself behind.
455
00:19:06,619 --> 00:19:10,947
Things that people
who "shine" can see.
456
00:19:10,988 --> 00:19:14,400
Jack and his son Danny
have a psychic gift.
457
00:19:14,442 --> 00:19:17,272
A shining that lets
them see the ghosts
458
00:19:17,314 --> 00:19:19,852
of the murdered people
at the Overlook.
459
00:19:19,894 --> 00:19:22,307
Those ghosts terrorize Danny,
460
00:19:22,349 --> 00:19:25,137
while they slowly
drive Jack insane.
461
00:19:25,179 --> 00:19:27,176
[guffaws]
462
00:19:27,217 --> 00:19:29,215
Jack Torrance,
he's an alcoholic.
463
00:19:29,257 --> 00:19:32,794
He doesn't know
how to control it.
464
00:19:32,835 --> 00:19:35,874
And he blames his son
and his wife
465
00:19:35,915 --> 00:19:37,996
for his artistic impotence.
466
00:19:38,038 --> 00:19:40,076
Whenever you come in here
and interrupt me
467
00:19:40,118 --> 00:19:41,991
you're breaking
my concentration.
468
00:19:42,032 --> 00:19:45,029
You're distracting me.
And it will then take me time
469
00:19:45,070 --> 00:19:47,192
to get back to where I was.
470
00:19:47,234 --> 00:19:49,315
There's something about this
hotel that just wants
471
00:19:49,356 --> 00:19:52,394
the people who go there
to murder each other.
472
00:19:52,436 --> 00:19:54,725
Come and play with us, Danny.
473
00:19:54,765 --> 00:19:57,096
[ominous music]
474
00:19:57,138 --> 00:20:00,175
Forever.
475
00:20:00,217 --> 00:20:03,338
And ever.
476
00:20:03,380 --> 00:20:05,502
And
ever.
477
00:20:05,544 --> 00:20:08,415
"The Shining" is filled
with the kind of iconic scenes
478
00:20:08,456 --> 00:20:11,494
you'd expect from one of
history's greatest directors.
479
00:20:11,536 --> 00:20:14,366
But Kubrick made many changes
to King's story
480
00:20:14,408 --> 00:20:16,280
that didn't sit well
with its author.
481
00:20:16,321 --> 00:20:18,901
I can enjoy it on the same
level that you could enjoy
482
00:20:18,943 --> 00:20:21,399
a beautifully restored Cadillac
without a motor in it.
483
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:22,980
- [laughs]
- You know?
484
00:20:23,021 --> 00:20:25,394
My rap about it is
there's no character arc.
485
00:20:25,435 --> 00:20:28,597
In the book, Jack Torrance
goes from a nice guy
486
00:20:28,639 --> 00:20:32,509
who's trying to get better for
his family and for himself.
487
00:20:32,551 --> 00:20:35,713
And I felt like Jack Nicholson
488
00:20:35,755 --> 00:20:38,502
played Jack Torrance as though
he were crazy from the...
489
00:20:38,544 --> 00:20:39,875
Crazy from minute one.
490
00:20:39,917 --> 00:20:43,287
That is, uh, quite a story.
491
00:20:43,329 --> 00:20:45,201
Talking with Mr. Ullman
in the office,
492
00:20:45,243 --> 00:20:47,532
and Ullman saying this and that
and Jack's going,
493
00:20:47,573 --> 00:20:49,363
- "Yes."
- [laughs]
494
00:20:49,404 --> 00:20:51,360
"Absolutely,
Mr. Ullman."
495
00:20:51,401 --> 00:20:54,023
Well, you can rest assured,
Mr. Ullman,
496
00:20:54,065 --> 00:20:56,562
that's not gonna happen
with me.
497
00:20:56,604 --> 00:20:59,184
And I also thought that
Kubrick had taken
498
00:20:59,226 --> 00:21:01,847
a pretty strong, scary,
499
00:21:01,888 --> 00:21:04,177
suspense, horror novel
500
00:21:04,219 --> 00:21:06,549
and turned it into an art film.
501
00:21:06,591 --> 00:21:08,214
I think Kubrick was doing...
502
00:21:08,255 --> 00:21:10,710
was trying to make
an anti-horror movie.
503
00:21:10,752 --> 00:21:13,041
He was intentionally going
against the grain
504
00:21:13,082 --> 00:21:15,038
of the horror tropes.
505
00:21:15,079 --> 00:21:17,868
You think you know
how horror is made,
506
00:21:17,910 --> 00:21:19,990
well, I'm showing you
how I do it.
507
00:21:20,032 --> 00:21:22,528
Counter to convention
in "The Shining"
508
00:21:22,570 --> 00:21:25,691
is the brightness
of the lighting style.
509
00:21:25,733 --> 00:21:28,480
And he's almost always
on really wide lenses.
510
00:21:28,521 --> 00:21:30,518
'Cause he doesn't do
that kind of horror,
511
00:21:30,519 --> 00:21:32,517
people don't pop out, you know,
512
00:21:32,558 --> 00:21:35,262
and stab you or whatever.
513
00:21:35,304 --> 00:21:37,260
It's much more psychological,
514
00:21:37,302 --> 00:21:39,631
so it works
for what he's doing.
515
00:21:39,673 --> 00:21:41,130
It's even creepier.
516
00:21:41,172 --> 00:21:43,294
[dramatic musical flourish]
517
00:21:43,335 --> 00:21:45,167
So much of the movie
is from the perspective
518
00:21:45,208 --> 00:21:46,516
of whatever character
you're with,
519
00:21:46,540 --> 00:21:48,787
so for Danny, it's one thing,
520
00:21:48,828 --> 00:21:51,700
for Jack Nicholson's character
it's this sort of unseen menace
521
00:21:51,742 --> 00:21:53,340
that sort of takes him over,
and Shelley Duvall,
522
00:21:53,364 --> 00:21:55,195
so she's a...
a ghost story freak,
523
00:21:55,237 --> 00:21:56,943
and it's like,
so in her mind
524
00:21:56,985 --> 00:21:59,232
the horror takes on
this cheesier form.
525
00:21:59,274 --> 00:22:01,205
And it's like, Oh... it's just,
everybo... it's all from
526
00:22:01,229 --> 00:22:04,143
subjective perspective, which
just makes it all the creepier.
527
00:22:04,183 --> 00:22:05,349
[tense music]
528
00:22:05,391 --> 00:22:07,804
Family is a great source
529
00:22:07,846 --> 00:22:09,760
for horror storytelling
530
00:22:09,802 --> 00:22:11,341
because family
is very intimate,
531
00:22:11,383 --> 00:22:13,714
family is very close to us,
532
00:22:13,755 --> 00:22:17,333
and family is very dangerous,
if you're in the wrong family.
533
00:22:17,375 --> 00:22:19,580
- Here's Johnny.
- [gasps]
534
00:22:19,622 --> 00:22:22,618
The Overlook Hotel and
this trauma-filled family,
535
00:22:22,660 --> 00:22:25,116
they just go together so well.
536
00:22:25,157 --> 00:22:28,695
It's a perfect location
for them to fall apart.
537
00:22:28,736 --> 00:22:30,982
Danny!
538
00:22:31,024 --> 00:22:33,480
And that's often the case
in... in haunted house movies,
539
00:22:33,522 --> 00:22:35,644
in movies about ghosts.
People who are traumatized
540
00:22:35,686 --> 00:22:37,201
end up there for one reason
or another,
541
00:22:37,225 --> 00:22:39,597
and the house is just like,
Yes.
542
00:22:39,639 --> 00:22:43,716
This is a person that's ready
to be affected and impacted
543
00:22:43,758 --> 00:22:46,047
by unspoken darkness.
544
00:22:46,089 --> 00:22:48,169
"The Shining" featured
a boy who could see
545
00:22:48,211 --> 00:22:50,707
the malevolent
spirits of the dead.
546
00:22:50,749 --> 00:22:52,996
Two decades later,
"The Sixth Sense"
547
00:22:53,038 --> 00:22:56,742
told the story of
another haunted child.
548
00:22:56,784 --> 00:22:59,904
This time by ghosts who
were desperate for help.
549
00:22:59,945 --> 00:23:01,111
[dramatic musical flourish]
550
00:23:01,153 --> 00:23:02,360
[gagging]
551
00:23:06,271 --> 00:23:08,934
[whispering]
I see dead people.
552
00:23:08,976 --> 00:23:12,263
Dead people, like, in graves?
In coffins?
553
00:23:12,305 --> 00:23:13,803
[tense music]
554
00:23:13,845 --> 00:23:16,924
Walking around
like regular people.
555
00:23:16,966 --> 00:23:19,064
There are many different ways
that you can tell a story
556
00:23:19,088 --> 00:23:20,794
within the context
of a horror movie.
557
00:23:20,836 --> 00:23:23,083
And there's high-brow
and low-brow, like, you know,
558
00:23:23,125 --> 00:23:26,245
there are many colors
to the spectrum of horror.
559
00:23:26,287 --> 00:23:29,325
Cole, you're scaring me.
560
00:23:29,366 --> 00:23:32,362
They scare me too sometimes.
561
00:23:32,404 --> 00:23:33,902
They?
562
00:23:33,944 --> 00:23:36,482
[suspenseful music]
563
00:23:36,524 --> 00:23:37,731
♪♪
564
00:23:37,772 --> 00:23:40,103
Ghosts.
565
00:23:40,145 --> 00:23:41,684
Supernatural thriller.
566
00:23:41,726 --> 00:23:43,442
That was what they called
"The Sixth Sense."
567
00:23:43,473 --> 00:23:45,637
And there were orders not
to call it a horror film.
568
00:23:45,679 --> 00:23:49,174
One of the scariest, most
brilliant films ever made,
569
00:23:49,216 --> 00:23:51,255
and they said,
"Don't call it a horror movie."
570
00:23:51,297 --> 00:23:53,419
It was like "horror"
was a dirty word.
571
00:23:53,460 --> 00:23:55,166
I'll show you where
my dad keeps his gun.
572
00:23:55,208 --> 00:23:56,416
Come on.
573
00:23:56,457 --> 00:23:58,288
♪♪
574
00:23:58,329 --> 00:24:01,866
Cole Sear is a
eight-year-old boy
575
00:24:01,908 --> 00:24:04,988
living in Philadelphia, uh,
with a young, single mom.
576
00:24:05,029 --> 00:24:06,860
He's a very troubled
and disturbed boy.
577
00:24:06,902 --> 00:24:10,939
And he runs into
a child psychologist.
578
00:24:10,980 --> 00:24:14,101
Think about what you wanna
get out of our time together.
579
00:24:14,142 --> 00:24:15,932
What our goal should be.
580
00:24:15,974 --> 00:24:17,305
Instead of something I want,
581
00:24:17,347 --> 00:24:19,427
can it be something
I don't want?
582
00:24:19,469 --> 00:24:22,674
And he tries to treat Cole,
and tries to help him,
583
00:24:22,715 --> 00:24:24,712
and he ends up
finding out that Cole
584
00:24:24,754 --> 00:24:28,124
believes that he sees
ghosts and spirits
585
00:24:28,166 --> 00:24:30,746
of people walking around
in day to day life.
586
00:24:30,788 --> 00:24:32,702
And they even
come into his home.
587
00:24:32,744 --> 00:24:34,991
Mama.
588
00:24:35,033 --> 00:24:38,694
No, dinner is not ready.
589
00:24:38,736 --> 00:24:40,442
♪♪
590
00:24:40,484 --> 00:24:42,315
What's great is that
when somebody like
591
00:24:42,357 --> 00:24:44,770
M. Night Shyamalan comes along
with "The Sixth Sense,"
592
00:24:44,811 --> 00:24:46,643
he has the confidence
to slow it down
593
00:24:46,684 --> 00:24:49,306
and make it intimate, and make
it about the performances,
594
00:24:49,348 --> 00:24:52,302
and make you completely
invested in the premise.
595
00:24:52,344 --> 00:24:54,258
♪♪
596
00:24:54,300 --> 00:24:57,587
"The Sixth Sense"
was deeply soulful.
597
00:24:57,629 --> 00:25:00,417
The purpose of all the ghosts,
it's all about, like,
598
00:25:00,459 --> 00:25:03,080
resolving your
human relationships,
599
00:25:03,122 --> 00:25:06,242
which is actually more scary
than a ghost.
600
00:25:06,284 --> 00:25:09,363
[laughs]
601
00:25:09,405 --> 00:25:12,859
It was perfectly cast as well.
It was, like,
602
00:25:12,901 --> 00:25:15,814
an awesome, different thing
for Bruce Willis at the time.
603
00:25:15,856 --> 00:25:19,101
I can't be your
doctor anymore.
604
00:25:19,143 --> 00:25:21,515
I haven't paid enough attention
to my family.
605
00:25:21,557 --> 00:25:24,553
Poor Haley Joel Osment
was fantastic,
606
00:25:24,595 --> 00:25:27,424
who had this most
expressive face
607
00:25:27,466 --> 00:25:29,629
and pain and loneliness
608
00:25:29,671 --> 00:25:34,249
that's expressed so well
that he feels 40 years old
609
00:25:34,291 --> 00:25:35,955
rather than 10 years old.
610
00:25:35,997 --> 00:25:37,827
You believe me, right?
611
00:25:37,869 --> 00:25:40,990
Haley Joel Osment is from
another planet in that movie.
612
00:25:41,031 --> 00:25:44,652
And you're so drawn to... to
Haley Joel Osment
613
00:25:44,694 --> 00:25:48,022
that you can't help but...
but sympathize for the people
614
00:25:48,064 --> 00:25:50,686
that have died through him.
615
00:25:50,727 --> 00:25:52,143
[dramatic musical flourish]
616
00:25:52,184 --> 00:25:53,932
That shoot was sort
of my education
617
00:25:53,974 --> 00:25:55,680
into a lot of horror films,
618
00:25:55,681 --> 00:25:57,445
because we were watching a lot
of things to see
619
00:25:57,469 --> 00:25:59,882
good examples of people
in frightening situations.
620
00:25:59,924 --> 00:26:02,046
'Cause at like 10 years old,
you haven't really had
621
00:26:02,088 --> 00:26:03,961
a whole lot
of traumatizing experiences
622
00:26:04,002 --> 00:26:07,040
most of the time.
623
00:26:07,082 --> 00:26:08,455
What is it?
What...?
624
00:26:08,497 --> 00:26:11,160
[whispering]
Why did you leave me?
625
00:26:11,201 --> 00:26:12,450
[ominous music]
626
00:26:12,491 --> 00:26:13,989
I didn't leave you.
627
00:26:14,031 --> 00:26:17,984
[object clinks, rolls]
628
00:26:18,026 --> 00:26:20,107
I did not see the twist
coming in that film.
629
00:26:20,148 --> 00:26:21,813
- I was so scared.
- No, and anybody...
630
00:26:21,854 --> 00:26:23,852
by the way, anybody that tells
you they guessed it,
631
00:26:23,893 --> 00:26:25,974
- they're so full of it.
- I so didn't.
632
00:26:26,016 --> 00:26:27,406
- Nobody gets is.
- Did you guess it?
633
00:26:27,430 --> 00:26:29,178
- No...
- Oh, good, I was gonna say...
634
00:26:29,220 --> 00:26:31,509
I can't even guess the ending
of a "Murder, She Wrote,"
635
00:26:31,550 --> 00:26:33,215
let alone "The Sixth Sense."
[laughter]
636
00:26:33,256 --> 00:26:34,671
[whispering]
Anna.
637
00:26:34,713 --> 00:26:36,503
[solemn music]
638
00:26:36,544 --> 00:26:38,375
Happy anniversary.
639
00:26:38,416 --> 00:26:40,456
It's a frightening movie,
640
00:26:40,498 --> 00:26:42,786
but the fear doesn't come
from ghosts.
641
00:26:42,827 --> 00:26:44,504
It comes from people
being afraid that, uh,
642
00:26:44,533 --> 00:26:46,466
they won't be able to
communicate with each other.
643
00:26:46,490 --> 00:26:48,920
So the movie is... communication
is the real theme of the movie.
644
00:26:48,944 --> 00:26:50,027
[ominous music]
645
00:26:50,069 --> 00:26:52,024
What do you think they want?
646
00:26:52,066 --> 00:26:53,356
Just help.
647
00:26:53,397 --> 00:26:56,269
That's right.
That's what I think too.
648
00:26:56,311 --> 00:26:58,974
They just want help,
even the scary ones.
649
00:26:59,015 --> 00:27:00,305
[suspenseful music]
650
00:27:00,347 --> 00:27:02,428
Ah!
[panting]
651
00:27:02,470 --> 00:27:07,713
♪♪
652
00:27:07,755 --> 00:27:11,832
What sets Cole free
from his situation
653
00:27:11,874 --> 00:27:14,055
is when he finally figures
out that he has to be a conduit
654
00:27:14,079 --> 00:27:16,534
between people
who still need to, uh,
655
00:27:16,576 --> 00:27:17,907
communicate
with each other.
656
00:27:17,949 --> 00:27:20,779
Grandma says hi.
657
00:27:20,821 --> 00:27:24,441
And even though Night does
some amazing things
658
00:27:24,482 --> 00:27:26,314
that really makes you jump
and... and create
659
00:27:26,355 --> 00:27:27,830
some really
frightening circumstances,
660
00:27:27,854 --> 00:27:29,892
I think what makes
the movie endure
661
00:27:29,934 --> 00:27:32,140
is that anybody can identify
with that sort of desire
662
00:27:32,181 --> 00:27:34,678
of saying things to people
that you never got to say.
663
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,758
She said
664
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,339
you came to the place
where they buried her,
665
00:27:39,380 --> 00:27:42,335
[stirring music]
666
00:27:42,377 --> 00:27:44,873
asked her a question.
667
00:27:44,915 --> 00:27:47,287
♪♪
668
00:27:47,328 --> 00:27:49,867
She said the answer is...
669
00:27:49,908 --> 00:27:51,781
♪♪
670
00:27:51,823 --> 00:27:53,903
every day.
671
00:27:53,945 --> 00:27:56,276
♪♪
672
00:27:56,317 --> 00:27:58,398
The theme of ghosts
looking to the living
673
00:27:58,439 --> 00:28:00,478
to solve unfinished business
674
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,058
didn't start with
"The Sixth Sense."
675
00:28:03,100 --> 00:28:05,223
Some of the greatest ghost
stories of all time,
676
00:28:05,264 --> 00:28:07,011
old and new,
677
00:28:07,053 --> 00:28:09,550
are murder mysteries
the dead want us to solve.
678
00:28:09,592 --> 00:28:11,048
[suspenseful music]
679
00:28:14,627 --> 00:28:17,290
[foreboding music]
680
00:28:17,332 --> 00:28:18,871
♪♪
681
00:28:18,913 --> 00:28:21,118
- She's mad.
- Ghosts can be terrifying.
682
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,783
- [screeches]
- [screams]
683
00:28:22,824 --> 00:28:25,072
But in some films,
the spirits of the dead
684
00:28:25,113 --> 00:28:28,109
aren't trying
to torment the living.
685
00:28:28,151 --> 00:28:30,649
They're victims
of terrible crimes,
686
00:28:30,689 --> 00:28:33,686
looking for justice.
687
00:28:33,728 --> 00:28:36,432
- [screeching]
- [screams]
688
00:28:36,474 --> 00:28:39,637
Perhaps the greatest ghost
mystery movie of all time
689
00:28:39,678 --> 00:28:41,343
is "The Changeling."
690
00:28:41,384 --> 00:28:43,090
It's not as famous as
"The Shining"
691
00:28:43,132 --> 00:28:44,672
or "Poltergeist."
692
00:28:44,714 --> 00:28:46,669
But it deserves to be.
693
00:28:46,711 --> 00:28:48,875
[suspenseful music]
694
00:28:48,917 --> 00:28:50,789
"The Changeling"
is one of the best
695
00:28:50,831 --> 00:28:53,328
American ghost
stories put on film.
696
00:28:53,369 --> 00:28:57,114
Very powerful. And George C.
Scott is terrific.
697
00:28:57,156 --> 00:29:00,235
George C. Scott
plays a composer
698
00:29:00,277 --> 00:29:01,858
who is dealing with the death
699
00:29:01,900 --> 00:29:04,230
of his young daughter and wife
700
00:29:04,272 --> 00:29:06,935
in a tragic car accident.
701
00:29:06,977 --> 00:29:09,473
♪♪
702
00:29:09,515 --> 00:29:12,053
George C. Scott
winds up moving
703
00:29:12,095 --> 00:29:15,507
to a vast, crumbling mansion
704
00:29:15,549 --> 00:29:17,547
that hasn't been
inhabited in years.
705
00:29:17,589 --> 00:29:19,336
And he's trying
to shake himself
706
00:29:19,377 --> 00:29:21,833
of his memory
of his daughter.
707
00:29:21,875 --> 00:29:24,454
And then over the course
of his stay,
708
00:29:24,496 --> 00:29:26,660
he starts to notice something
709
00:29:26,702 --> 00:29:28,657
trying to communicate
with him.
710
00:29:28,699 --> 00:29:32,278
At first, it's really subtle
things like a piano note
711
00:29:32,319 --> 00:29:33,776
playing itself.
712
00:29:33,818 --> 00:29:36,189
[piano note rings]
713
00:29:36,231 --> 00:29:38,894
It escalates into
pounding noises.
714
00:29:38,936 --> 00:29:41,016
[pounding]
715
00:29:41,058 --> 00:29:43,472
♪♪
716
00:29:43,513 --> 00:29:45,553
And so he starts to realize
717
00:29:45,594 --> 00:29:46,944
that there's something
in the house
718
00:29:46,968 --> 00:29:50,088
that's trying
to connect to him.
719
00:29:50,130 --> 00:29:52,460
"The Changeling"
feels very real.
720
00:29:52,502 --> 00:29:54,250
I think that's
why I love it so much.
721
00:29:54,291 --> 00:29:57,038
The way it handles
the paranormal
722
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,701
is very simple and effective.
723
00:29:59,742 --> 00:30:03,404
[pounding continues]
724
00:30:03,446 --> 00:30:05,735
It's the first movie
that, um,
725
00:30:05,777 --> 00:30:09,272
made a bouncing ball
absolutely terrifying.
726
00:30:09,314 --> 00:30:13,017
[ball thumping]
727
00:30:13,059 --> 00:30:14,723
So the ball comes
thump, thump,
728
00:30:14,765 --> 00:30:17,054
thumping
down the stairs,
729
00:30:17,096 --> 00:30:19,176
and George C. Scott
is freaked out,
730
00:30:19,218 --> 00:30:21,798
and he says, Enough of that,
and he... he takes the ball
731
00:30:21,839 --> 00:30:23,629
to the nearest bridge,
732
00:30:23,670 --> 00:30:27,665
and he drops it 70 feet down
into the... the river.
733
00:30:27,707 --> 00:30:30,661
[ominous orchestral music]
734
00:30:30,703 --> 00:30:32,658
And he drives home
and he thinks, Phew,
735
00:30:32,700 --> 00:30:34,282
that's over with.
736
00:30:34,324 --> 00:30:35,839
And he walks in through
the front door and...
737
00:30:35,863 --> 00:30:42,847
♪♪
738
00:30:46,558 --> 00:30:48,614
You know, it makes my skin
crawl just to think about it.
739
00:30:48,638 --> 00:30:50,886
- Love that.
- What is your name?
740
00:30:50,927 --> 00:30:52,966
♪♪
741
00:30:53,008 --> 00:30:54,381
[whispering]
Joseph.
742
00:30:54,423 --> 00:30:55,671
It's the ghost of a young
boy
743
00:30:55,713 --> 00:30:57,586
who was murdered
in the house.
744
00:30:57,627 --> 00:31:00,249
What is your name?
745
00:31:00,290 --> 00:31:03,494
[whispering]
Joseph.
746
00:31:03,536 --> 00:31:07,322
George C. Scott understands
that the specter of this child
747
00:31:07,364 --> 00:31:08,988
has something to communicate,
748
00:31:09,030 --> 00:31:10,985
and he's afraid of it, and
he's afraid
749
00:31:11,027 --> 00:31:13,065
of what it will do,
but he's also curious
750
00:31:13,107 --> 00:31:15,854
and wants to help it,
because of his own loss.
751
00:31:15,895 --> 00:31:17,685
♪♪
752
00:31:17,727 --> 00:31:19,890
There's something about
heartbreak and horror
753
00:31:19,932 --> 00:31:22,429
that go hand in hand.
754
00:31:22,470 --> 00:31:24,343
When you've lost a child,
755
00:31:24,385 --> 00:31:27,880
it's something
so deep and so painful
756
00:31:27,921 --> 00:31:31,750
that it either closes you off
completely,
757
00:31:31,792 --> 00:31:35,121
or it opens you up
to other experience.
758
00:31:35,162 --> 00:31:37,159
What is it doing?
Why is it trying to reach me?
759
00:31:37,201 --> 00:31:39,906
- John.
- Is it because of my daughter?
760
00:31:39,948 --> 00:31:42,695
♪♪
761
00:31:42,736 --> 00:31:44,359
I can't go through
all this again.
762
00:31:44,401 --> 00:31:47,313
I think a lot of ghost
stories are about wrestling
763
00:31:47,355 --> 00:31:49,269
- with the idea of loss.
- [sobbing]
764
00:31:49,311 --> 00:31:53,181
Trying to make sense of
the death of loved ones
765
00:31:53,223 --> 00:31:55,387
and... and what that means.
766
00:31:55,428 --> 00:31:57,134
What happens to us
when we're gone?
767
00:31:57,176 --> 00:32:00,630
If any of us were forced
to linger behind,
768
00:32:00,672 --> 00:32:03,210
uh, on this plane,
in the afterlife,
769
00:32:03,251 --> 00:32:06,122
it's probably because there's
some unfinished business.
770
00:32:06,164 --> 00:32:08,620
[tense music]
771
00:32:08,662 --> 00:32:10,451
♪♪
772
00:32:10,492 --> 00:32:12,382
And "The Changeling" was
the first time I got exposed
773
00:32:12,406 --> 00:32:14,695
to the idea that ghosts didn't
just wanna scare
774
00:32:14,737 --> 00:32:16,960
the living [bleep] out of you
like they did in "The Shining,"
775
00:32:16,984 --> 00:32:18,981
but that they actually
wanted help.
776
00:32:19,023 --> 00:32:21,020
They needed someone
on the mortal plane
777
00:32:21,062 --> 00:32:22,352
to actually help them.
778
00:32:22,393 --> 00:32:25,598
What do you want from me?
779
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,387
I've done everything I can do.
780
00:32:27,429 --> 00:32:29,760
"The Changeling" is,
not only is it a horror movie,
781
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,507
it's also, uh,
a murder mystery.
782
00:32:31,548 --> 00:32:33,630
We wanna know what happened
to this little boy.
783
00:32:33,671 --> 00:32:36,667
And it introduces, uh,
sort of an element
784
00:32:36,709 --> 00:32:38,873
we've seen in a lot of ghost
story movies since then,
785
00:32:38,915 --> 00:32:41,162
where the ghosts
are reaching out to us
786
00:32:41,202 --> 00:32:44,449
to solve a mystery to help
put their souls at rest.
787
00:32:44,490 --> 00:32:50,691
♪♪
788
00:32:52,023 --> 00:32:53,936
[coughing]
789
00:32:53,978 --> 00:32:55,809
And it's a kind of theme
that we've seen
790
00:32:55,851 --> 00:32:57,807
in the films of
Guillermo del Toro,
791
00:32:57,849 --> 00:33:01,219
where we really feel
the pain of the ghost.
792
00:33:01,261 --> 00:33:04,340
Unlike "The Changeling,"
and many other ghost movies,
793
00:33:04,382 --> 00:33:07,919
del Toro lets you see
his specters.
794
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,123
The ghost of a murdered child
in "The Devil's Backbone"
795
00:33:11,164 --> 00:33:15,034
is one of the most disturbing
figures ever put on film.
796
00:33:15,076 --> 00:33:16,883
Guillermo has this
incredible, like, sense...
797
00:33:16,907 --> 00:33:18,822
uh, visual sense.
798
00:33:18,864 --> 00:33:21,818
[ominous music]
799
00:33:21,860 --> 00:33:23,191
♪♪
800
00:33:23,233 --> 00:33:26,312
Santi, the ghost, empty eyes,
801
00:33:26,354 --> 00:33:28,560
and the crack
in... in his forehead.
802
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,055
Blood coming out of his
forehead is shooting up.
803
00:33:32,096 --> 00:33:33,303
It's floating.
804
00:33:33,345 --> 00:33:36,091
Its physics abide
by the laws of...
805
00:33:36,132 --> 00:33:39,379
of the conditions
where he died.
806
00:33:39,420 --> 00:33:41,168
[groans, grunts]
807
00:33:41,210 --> 00:33:43,165
[grunts]
808
00:33:43,207 --> 00:33:44,705
♪♪
809
00:33:44,747 --> 00:33:47,285
Because he's... he's... he's
actually drowned.
810
00:33:47,327 --> 00:33:54,193
♪♪
811
00:33:54,235 --> 00:33:55,816
[dramatic musical flourish]
812
00:33:55,857 --> 00:33:58,146
But del Toro's
ultimate ghost movie
813
00:33:58,188 --> 00:34:01,392
is 2015's "Crimson Peak."
814
00:34:01,434 --> 00:34:04,014
When the time comes,
815
00:34:04,056 --> 00:34:07,842
- you'll hear of Crimson Peak.
- [whimpering]
816
00:34:07,884 --> 00:34:09,341
By blending practical
effects
817
00:34:09,381 --> 00:34:11,962
- with powerful new CGI...
- [screams]
818
00:34:12,003 --> 00:34:15,333
He took Gothic horror to
a level of visual artistry
819
00:34:15,374 --> 00:34:17,288
never seen before.
820
00:34:17,330 --> 00:34:20,409
[screeching, moaning]
821
00:34:20,451 --> 00:34:22,199
♪♪
822
00:34:22,240 --> 00:34:25,361
[crying]
823
00:34:25,403 --> 00:34:27,983
"Crimson Peak" was my fifth
824
00:34:28,025 --> 00:34:31,104
of my six movies
with Guillermo del Toro.
825
00:34:31,146 --> 00:34:33,768
When he calls and says,
"I want you to be in a film,"
826
00:34:33,809 --> 00:34:35,474
I don't ask questions,
I just say yes,
827
00:34:35,515 --> 00:34:36,990
and then I find out later
what it's gonna be.
828
00:34:37,013 --> 00:34:38,570
[chuckles]
'Cause I trust him that much.
829
00:34:38,595 --> 00:34:39,926
- [screeching]
- [gasps]
830
00:34:39,968 --> 00:34:41,758
[moaning]
831
00:34:41,799 --> 00:34:43,440
And then when I found out
you're gonna be playing
832
00:34:43,464 --> 00:34:46,210
two of my... of my five
ghost ladies in the movie,
833
00:34:46,251 --> 00:34:48,998
I'm like, "How's that, again?"
834
00:34:49,039 --> 00:34:52,868
"Crimson Peak" is about a
young woman whose father dies
835
00:34:52,909 --> 00:34:54,450
early in the story.
836
00:34:54,491 --> 00:34:55,656
[grunts]
837
00:34:55,698 --> 00:34:57,320
[groans]
838
00:34:57,362 --> 00:34:59,693
Edith is met by
a gentleman who says,
839
00:34:59,735 --> 00:35:01,857
Ah, I can... I can offer you
a better life.
840
00:35:01,898 --> 00:35:03,770
Come with me to England.
And so she comes
841
00:35:03,812 --> 00:35:06,309
with her dowry,
with her inheritance.
842
00:35:06,351 --> 00:35:09,097
Once she signs
the final papers,
843
00:35:09,139 --> 00:35:10,845
I want this over with.
844
00:35:10,886 --> 00:35:12,843
But the house
that he takes her to
845
00:35:12,884 --> 00:35:14,840
is haunted by lots
of ghost ladies
846
00:35:14,881 --> 00:35:17,919
who might be
from a similar past.
847
00:35:17,961 --> 00:35:19,750
[growls softly]
848
00:35:19,792 --> 00:35:21,290
[gasps]
849
00:35:21,331 --> 00:35:23,038
And he might've
done this before.
850
00:35:23,079 --> 00:35:25,160
What I love about
"Crimson Peak" was
851
00:35:25,202 --> 00:35:27,157
that the ghosts
weren't to be feared.
852
00:35:27,199 --> 00:35:29,987
The imagery might be a little
off-putting at first,
853
00:35:30,029 --> 00:35:32,276
but they were there
to heed warning
854
00:35:32,317 --> 00:35:34,481
and to help this... this woman
who was still alive
855
00:35:34,523 --> 00:35:36,770
not to become one of them.
856
00:35:36,812 --> 00:35:38,518
[breathing heavily]
857
00:35:38,559 --> 00:35:40,890
His blood
858
00:35:40,932 --> 00:35:44,177
will be on your hands.
859
00:35:44,219 --> 00:35:46,548
[gasps, pants]
860
00:35:46,549 --> 00:35:48,880
Well, ghost stories
are always about the way
861
00:35:48,922 --> 00:35:51,918
the past casts its long shadow
on the present.
862
00:35:51,959 --> 00:35:53,707
[grunts, groans]
863
00:35:53,749 --> 00:35:56,079
[grunts]
864
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,034
Faulkner famously said,
The past isn't over.
865
00:35:59,075 --> 00:36:01,322
It isn't even past.
866
00:36:01,364 --> 00:36:04,027
The big bloodstain of the past
867
00:36:04,069 --> 00:36:06,939
lying across the present.
868
00:36:06,981 --> 00:36:09,437
"Crimson Peaks" ghosts were
victims
869
00:36:09,479 --> 00:36:11,143
of cold-blooded murder.
870
00:36:11,185 --> 00:36:13,140
[suspenseful music]
871
00:36:13,182 --> 00:36:16,137
So is the ghost
in "The Ring."
872
00:36:16,178 --> 00:36:18,467
But this ghost doesn't
wanna help you.
873
00:36:18,508 --> 00:36:20,173
[television buzzes, screeches]
874
00:36:20,214 --> 00:36:23,045
It's a serial killer
from beyond the grave.
875
00:36:26,540 --> 00:36:28,222
Have you heard about this
videotape that kills you
876
00:36:28,246 --> 00:36:30,327
when you watch it?
877
00:36:30,368 --> 00:36:33,198
- What kind of tape?
- A tape. A regular tape.
878
00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:35,570
[suspenseful music]
879
00:36:35,612 --> 00:36:37,276
♪♪
880
00:36:37,318 --> 00:36:39,399
"The Ring"
is about a videotape,
881
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:44,059
and if you watch it,
within seven days you die.
882
00:36:44,101 --> 00:36:45,640
[television ringing]
883
00:36:45,682 --> 00:36:48,096
♪♪
884
00:36:48,138 --> 00:36:50,509
Naomi Watts
plays a news reporter.
885
00:36:50,551 --> 00:36:53,672
And she's reporting
on this story.
886
00:36:53,714 --> 00:36:55,628
Essentially, she comes across
the film
887
00:36:55,669 --> 00:36:57,916
when doing her
journalistic research.
888
00:36:57,958 --> 00:36:59,872
[phone rings]
889
00:36:59,914 --> 00:37:03,410
♪♪
890
00:37:03,451 --> 00:37:06,489
Seven days.
891
00:37:06,531 --> 00:37:09,111
And just brings a tape home
892
00:37:09,152 --> 00:37:11,857
and her... her son
watches the tape.
893
00:37:11,898 --> 00:37:13,064
[television static whooshes]
894
00:37:13,106 --> 00:37:15,602
No!
895
00:37:15,644 --> 00:37:17,808
♪♪
896
00:37:17,849 --> 00:37:20,138
And so now it
becomes also a story of...
897
00:37:20,180 --> 00:37:23,093
of not just a journalist
trying to dig into the story
898
00:37:23,134 --> 00:37:26,005
and find its roots.
It's a mother
899
00:37:26,047 --> 00:37:27,504
trying to save her son's life.
900
00:37:27,546 --> 00:37:30,458
♪♪
901
00:37:30,500 --> 00:37:32,955
And it has this natural
time bomb structure.
902
00:37:32,996 --> 00:37:35,410
You see the video,
you know you have seven days
903
00:37:35,452 --> 00:37:36,908
before you're gonna die.
904
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:39,072
Your life is gonna decay
around you,
905
00:37:39,113 --> 00:37:41,402
and steadily becoming more
and more like a nightmare.
906
00:37:41,444 --> 00:37:43,442
♪♪
907
00:37:43,483 --> 00:37:46,396
[coughing]
908
00:37:46,438 --> 00:37:51,015
♪♪
909
00:37:51,057 --> 00:37:52,721
[coughs]
910
00:37:52,763 --> 00:37:54,802
And there's nothing
you can do to stop it.
911
00:37:54,844 --> 00:37:56,592
You don't wanna hurt anyone.
912
00:37:56,633 --> 00:37:59,338
But I do, and I'm sorry.
913
00:37:59,379 --> 00:38:02,375
As Naomi Watts' character
is digging in and digging in,
914
00:38:02,417 --> 00:38:04,373
you realize that this child
915
00:38:04,415 --> 00:38:05,954
is what you have to be worried
about.
916
00:38:05,996 --> 00:38:07,369
She's the one
that will haunt you,
917
00:38:07,411 --> 00:38:08,886
and she's the one
that will come after you.
918
00:38:08,909 --> 00:38:10,656
♪♪
919
00:38:10,698 --> 00:38:13,029
Samara...
920
00:38:13,070 --> 00:38:14,776
"The Ring" is a remake
921
00:38:14,818 --> 00:38:17,482
of the haunting
Japanese film "Ringu."
922
00:38:17,523 --> 00:38:19,396
[gasps]
923
00:38:19,437 --> 00:38:21,393
Though the plot is the same,
924
00:38:21,435 --> 00:38:24,431
you can see how differently
Eastern and Western cultures
925
00:38:24,473 --> 00:38:26,179
tell ghost stories.
926
00:38:26,220 --> 00:38:28,509
There's a very specific
approach to fear.
927
00:38:28,551 --> 00:38:30,382
The Japanese films,
928
00:38:30,423 --> 00:38:34,376
all you need is a pale face
and long, black hair.
929
00:38:34,418 --> 00:38:38,496
It's iconic in a way
that has been for years.
930
00:38:38,538 --> 00:38:43,157
There are icons that, uh,
immediately induce
931
00:38:43,198 --> 00:38:46,611
shudders and goose bumps
to a Japanese audience
932
00:38:46,652 --> 00:38:49,566
that would not necessarily
to an American audience.
933
00:38:49,607 --> 00:38:51,813
♪♪
934
00:38:51,855 --> 00:38:53,768
[grunts]
935
00:38:53,810 --> 00:38:55,724
[horse groans]
936
00:38:55,766 --> 00:38:57,721
The U.S. version
of "The Ring"
937
00:38:57,763 --> 00:39:00,635
grossed $249,000,000,
938
00:39:00,676 --> 00:39:03,922
ushering in a wave of Japanese
ghost film remakes.
939
00:39:03,964 --> 00:39:07,334
- [screeches]
- Ah!
940
00:39:07,376 --> 00:39:10,414
- [softly screeching]
- [whimpering]
941
00:39:10,455 --> 00:39:13,410
[tense music]
942
00:39:13,451 --> 00:39:15,199
♪♪
943
00:39:15,241 --> 00:39:17,696
The dark, brooding
Japanese horror style
944
00:39:17,738 --> 00:39:19,944
made its way into
Hollywood films,
945
00:39:19,984 --> 00:39:22,524
like Andrew Douglas'
2005 remake
946
00:39:22,565 --> 00:39:24,271
of "The Amityville Horror."
947
00:39:24,313 --> 00:39:27,017
♪♪
948
00:39:27,059 --> 00:39:28,932
We're seeing a lot
of Asian horror films
949
00:39:28,973 --> 00:39:30,763
- for the first time.
- [whimpering]
950
00:39:30,764 --> 00:39:33,386
We're kind of influence by
this new imagery.
951
00:39:33,426 --> 00:39:34,965
We hadn't seen it.
952
00:39:35,007 --> 00:39:36,589
[screams]
953
00:39:36,631 --> 00:39:38,877
The child twisted up,
stuck to the roof
954
00:39:38,919 --> 00:39:42,290
is very much a kind
of Asian horror image.
955
00:39:42,332 --> 00:39:44,204
♪♪
956
00:39:44,245 --> 00:39:46,576
But "The Ring" remains the
most successful
957
00:39:46,618 --> 00:39:48,740
Japanese horror-inspired
classic.
958
00:39:48,782 --> 00:39:51,362
Oh.
[screams]
959
00:39:51,403 --> 00:39:54,399
Rachel!
960
00:39:54,441 --> 00:39:57,978
"The Ring" was, uh,
one of those movies
961
00:39:58,020 --> 00:40:01,474
that had so many
disturbing images.
962
00:40:01,515 --> 00:40:04,054
I just... I could not
963
00:40:04,095 --> 00:40:06,717
sleep for days
964
00:40:06,759 --> 00:40:10,379
after I saw that movie.
965
00:40:10,421 --> 00:40:14,540
And I watched a lot of TV, so
whenever there would be
966
00:40:14,582 --> 00:40:17,037
static white noise
kind of screen,
967
00:40:17,078 --> 00:40:19,576
I would... I just...
I couldn't deal.
968
00:40:19,617 --> 00:40:21,573
Ah!
969
00:40:21,614 --> 00:40:23,903
It changed
that whole image for me
970
00:40:23,945 --> 00:40:26,858
for the rest of my life, like,
to this day, you know,
971
00:40:26,899 --> 00:40:29,937
I... I would probably still
get a twinge of, like,
972
00:40:29,979 --> 00:40:31,352
Oh, [bleep].
973
00:40:31,394 --> 00:40:33,724
Ah!
974
00:40:33,765 --> 00:40:36,637
This is about the fear of our
own mortality, you know.
975
00:40:36,679 --> 00:40:40,257
About getting the diagnosis
that you only have so long,
976
00:40:40,299 --> 00:40:42,088
and not being able
to put the brakes on,
977
00:40:42,130 --> 00:40:44,460
not being able
to bargain for more time.
978
00:40:44,502 --> 00:40:46,582
[suspenseful music]
979
00:40:46,624 --> 00:40:49,329
Ghosts mean different things
in different religions
980
00:40:49,371 --> 00:40:52,117
and different cultures.
Some ghosts are benevolent,
981
00:40:52,158 --> 00:40:54,656
some ghosts are malicious.
982
00:40:54,698 --> 00:40:57,194
But there's always
that struggle.
983
00:40:57,236 --> 00:41:00,357
'Cause what... when someone dies,
where do they go?
984
00:41:00,399 --> 00:41:02,645
♪♪
985
00:41:02,687 --> 00:41:05,933
I have a friend who says that
986
00:41:05,975 --> 00:41:08,845
the people she knows don't die.
987
00:41:08,887 --> 00:41:10,802
They just are on vacation.
988
00:41:10,843 --> 00:41:12,299
Where's Larry?
989
00:41:12,341 --> 00:41:14,339
Oh, he's in Rio de Janeiro
on the beach.
990
00:41:14,381 --> 00:41:18,500
Because they just are here,
and then they're not here.
991
00:41:18,541 --> 00:41:20,373
And that's why
we create rituals,
992
00:41:20,414 --> 00:41:22,911
funerals, memorial services,
to help us deal
993
00:41:22,953 --> 00:41:24,617
with the grief.
994
00:41:24,659 --> 00:41:28,030
And part of the grief is,
Where the hell did they go?
995
00:41:28,072 --> 00:41:29,985
♪♪
996
00:41:30,027 --> 00:41:32,191
Movies help you.
They're therapeutic.
997
00:41:32,233 --> 00:41:34,147
They deal with
"where did they go"?
998
00:41:34,189 --> 00:41:37,143
♪♪
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