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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,414 [suspenseful music] 2 00:00:03,455 --> 00:00:04,620 I see dead people. 3 00:00:04,662 --> 00:00:07,534 ♪♪ 4 00:00:07,575 --> 00:00:10,904 The one monster that's in every culture, 5 00:00:10,946 --> 00:00:13,276 no matter how sophisticated or primitive 6 00:00:13,317 --> 00:00:14,899 all around the world, and that's ghosts. 7 00:00:14,941 --> 00:00:16,938 Do you believe in ghosts? 8 00:00:16,979 --> 00:00:18,395 [roaring, groans] 9 00:00:18,436 --> 00:00:20,226 With "Poltergeist," what you get is, 10 00:00:20,267 --> 00:00:22,722 you get the most thoughtful, 11 00:00:22,764 --> 00:00:24,761 most thought-out, 12 00:00:24,803 --> 00:00:28,590 most fun haunted house movie that's ever been made. 13 00:00:28,632 --> 00:00:29,880 ♪♪ 14 00:00:29,922 --> 00:00:33,001 "The Shining." 15 00:00:33,042 --> 00:00:35,099 I mean, that is the ultimate ghost story, is "The Shining." 16 00:00:35,123 --> 00:00:37,703 - Here's Johnny. - [gasps] 17 00:00:37,745 --> 00:00:39,493 I was struck most viscerally 18 00:00:39,534 --> 00:00:41,656 by the performance of Jack Nicholson. 19 00:00:41,698 --> 00:00:43,196 I'm not gonna hurt you. 20 00:00:43,237 --> 00:00:45,568 I'm just gonna bash your brains. 21 00:00:45,610 --> 00:00:47,232 ♪♪ 22 00:00:47,274 --> 00:00:48,731 Ah! 23 00:00:48,773 --> 00:00:50,312 "The Sixth Sense" is masterful 24 00:00:50,354 --> 00:00:52,642 in that it really plays with the ghost story 25 00:00:52,684 --> 00:00:54,848 - in a very new way. - Ah! 26 00:00:54,890 --> 00:00:57,012 He sees ghosts and spirits. 27 00:00:57,054 --> 00:00:58,676 Stop looking at me. 28 00:00:58,718 --> 00:01:01,298 People walking around in their day-to-day life. 29 00:01:01,340 --> 00:01:03,587 [crashing] 30 00:01:03,628 --> 00:01:08,164 What "Insidious" has brought to the genre is a humanity 31 00:01:08,205 --> 00:01:09,995 which I'm not sure has been in many 32 00:01:10,037 --> 00:01:12,284 of the spooky movies we've seen. 33 00:01:12,326 --> 00:01:14,822 ♪♪ 34 00:01:14,864 --> 00:01:17,153 "The Ring" was one of those movies 35 00:01:17,194 --> 00:01:19,649 that had so many disturbing images... 36 00:01:19,691 --> 00:01:21,064 ♪♪ 37 00:01:21,106 --> 00:01:23,103 ...that I could not sleep 38 00:01:23,145 --> 00:01:26,391 for days after I saw that movie. 39 00:01:26,433 --> 00:01:29,387 [gunshot] 40 00:01:29,429 --> 00:01:31,302 Ghost stories are always about the way 41 00:01:31,343 --> 00:01:34,131 the past casts its long shadow on the present. 42 00:01:34,172 --> 00:01:35,962 [shrieks] 43 00:01:36,004 --> 00:01:38,667 They make us question, is there something else? 44 00:01:38,709 --> 00:01:41,913 Am I gonna wind up in limbo? Am I gonna wind up in heaven? 45 00:01:41,954 --> 00:01:44,201 Or hell? 46 00:01:44,243 --> 00:01:47,697 ♪♪ 47 00:01:47,738 --> 00:01:49,736 Totally getting goose bumps talking about this. 48 00:01:49,778 --> 00:01:51,110 [screams] 49 00:01:51,150 --> 00:01:53,731 [spooky music] 50 00:01:53,772 --> 00:02:00,389 ♪♪ 51 00:02:05,591 --> 00:02:10,001 ♪♪ 52 00:02:10,043 --> 00:02:11,333 [chainsaw revs] 53 00:02:11,375 --> 00:02:15,162 ♪♪ 54 00:02:18,574 --> 00:02:20,322 [ominous music] 55 00:02:20,364 --> 00:02:21,695 It's coming toward us. 56 00:02:21,737 --> 00:02:24,150 Vampires, werewolves, zombies. 57 00:02:24,192 --> 00:02:27,064 People don't really believe that stuff is real. 58 00:02:27,105 --> 00:02:30,934 But ghosts, you ask 99% of the people, 59 00:02:30,975 --> 00:02:33,513 they're like 100% certain that they have seen a ghost. 60 00:02:33,555 --> 00:02:35,303 [screams] 61 00:02:35,345 --> 00:02:37,401 That there are ghosts, that they experienced ghosts. 62 00:02:37,425 --> 00:02:39,797 There are ghosts in the house. 63 00:02:39,838 --> 00:02:41,628 Oh! 64 00:02:41,669 --> 00:02:44,541 I mean, the ghost subgenre... I mean, I think that's why 65 00:02:44,583 --> 00:02:46,622 it just... it literally never dies. 66 00:02:46,663 --> 00:02:48,411 ♪♪ 67 00:02:48,453 --> 00:02:50,117 Ghost movies have been with us 68 00:02:50,159 --> 00:02:52,156 since the dawn of cinema. 69 00:02:52,198 --> 00:02:55,402 The first horror film, "La Manoir du Diable," 70 00:02:55,444 --> 00:02:59,522 from 1896, was a ghost story. 71 00:02:59,564 --> 00:03:04,349 But until the 1980s, spirits were rarely seen onscreen. 72 00:03:04,391 --> 00:03:07,345 And if they were, they were rarely convincing. 73 00:03:07,387 --> 00:03:10,341 That all changed with "Poltergeist." 74 00:03:10,383 --> 00:03:13,795 They're here. 75 00:03:13,837 --> 00:03:17,416 Well, "Poltergeist" was one of the first scary movies 76 00:03:17,457 --> 00:03:19,705 that I can remember seeing as a kid. 77 00:03:19,746 --> 00:03:21,910 I was truly terrified by that movie 78 00:03:21,951 --> 00:03:26,571 and I... I'm still to this day terrified of ghosts. 79 00:03:26,612 --> 00:03:29,234 I was still a child when I saw it. 80 00:03:29,276 --> 00:03:30,857 I really connected to that story, 81 00:03:30,898 --> 00:03:33,520 the magical of uncertainty 82 00:03:33,562 --> 00:03:36,808 of the afterlife and... and spirits. 83 00:03:36,850 --> 00:03:38,472 ♪♪ 84 00:03:38,514 --> 00:03:40,803 "Poltergeist" is a haunted house movie 85 00:03:40,844 --> 00:03:42,425 that took place in the suburbs, 86 00:03:42,467 --> 00:03:44,506 that was in the least scary place possible. 87 00:03:44,548 --> 00:03:46,295 - I'm out of here. - Bye. 88 00:03:46,337 --> 00:03:49,250 The family lives in the San Fernando Valley, 89 00:03:49,291 --> 00:03:51,622 that gets plagued by spirits 90 00:03:51,664 --> 00:03:56,199 because of the area where they live was built on a graveyard 91 00:03:56,241 --> 00:03:58,280 that is getting back at 'em. 92 00:03:58,322 --> 00:04:00,528 Don't worry about it. After all, 93 00:04:00,568 --> 00:04:03,108 it's not ancient tribal burial ground, 94 00:04:03,149 --> 00:04:05,063 it's just... people. 95 00:04:05,105 --> 00:04:08,184 "Poltergeist" is a really fascinating one for me. 96 00:04:08,226 --> 00:04:10,598 It's like taking sort of, almost like, 97 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,886 decades of horror filmmaking, 98 00:04:12,928 --> 00:04:16,548 and constructing it into, like, this pure rollercoaster. 99 00:04:16,590 --> 00:04:18,670 - No [screams]. - [roars] 100 00:04:18,712 --> 00:04:21,792 [screams] 101 00:04:21,833 --> 00:04:24,455 Took the director of "Texas Chainsaw Massacre," 102 00:04:24,497 --> 00:04:27,285 Tobe Hooper, and you took Steven Spielberg, 103 00:04:27,326 --> 00:04:29,615 the director of "Jaws," "Raiders of the Lost Ark," 104 00:04:29,656 --> 00:04:32,320 that was the biggest horror event 105 00:04:32,361 --> 00:04:34,068 of my childhood, that movie. 106 00:04:34,109 --> 00:04:35,875 And this stuff all works as long as the audience 107 00:04:35,899 --> 00:04:38,063 can find some logic for it. 108 00:04:38,104 --> 00:04:42,058 Steven just brings this enthusiasm and this energy 109 00:04:42,099 --> 00:04:43,764 to the thing. 110 00:04:43,805 --> 00:04:46,469 And then Tobe is, like, figuring out the logistics 111 00:04:46,510 --> 00:04:50,380 and... and how the shot's gonna look and all of that. 112 00:04:50,422 --> 00:04:53,044 What happens to that family is so Tobe. 113 00:04:53,085 --> 00:04:55,956 But that family is definitely more Spielbergian. 114 00:04:55,998 --> 00:04:58,994 Before, after, before, after, before. 115 00:04:59,036 --> 00:05:00,635 [laughing] Let me see your tuck position. 116 00:05:00,658 --> 00:05:03,613 The important thing was the kinetic family, 117 00:05:03,655 --> 00:05:06,776 and the cohesiveness, and keeping it light, 118 00:05:06,817 --> 00:05:08,982 until it starts getting heavy. 119 00:05:09,023 --> 00:05:11,021 [ominous music] 120 00:05:11,062 --> 00:05:14,017 "Poltergeist" is a movie about 121 00:05:14,058 --> 00:05:16,055 the tremendous guilt and shame we feel 122 00:05:16,097 --> 00:05:18,053 about leaving our children in front of the TV, 123 00:05:18,095 --> 00:05:19,676 letting the TV be the babysitter. 124 00:05:19,718 --> 00:05:22,256 We know it's wrong. We do it anyway. 125 00:05:22,297 --> 00:05:25,544 That scene where the little girl is standing in front 126 00:05:25,545 --> 00:05:28,041 of the, uh... the television, 127 00:05:28,082 --> 00:05:31,452 and it reaches out to molest her. 128 00:05:31,494 --> 00:05:33,118 ♪♪ 129 00:05:33,158 --> 00:05:35,572 Kind of a dawning realization that we might be 130 00:05:35,614 --> 00:05:38,027 sacrificing our... our children 131 00:05:38,069 --> 00:05:40,732 in front of, uh, this glowing screen. 132 00:05:40,774 --> 00:05:42,605 ♪♪ 133 00:05:42,647 --> 00:05:45,559 I think what Steven and his collaborators predicted 134 00:05:45,601 --> 00:05:49,180 with "Poltergeist" is... is true. 135 00:05:49,222 --> 00:05:52,134 We've all fallen into our television. 136 00:05:52,176 --> 00:05:54,465 - [yelps] - Mommy. 137 00:05:54,507 --> 00:05:57,128 I can't see you, Mommy. 138 00:05:57,170 --> 00:05:58,960 Where are you? 139 00:05:59,001 --> 00:06:01,289 Their young daughter gets trapped 140 00:06:01,331 --> 00:06:03,287 between this world and the next. 141 00:06:03,329 --> 00:06:06,450 Your daughter is alive and in this house. 142 00:06:06,491 --> 00:06:07,781 During the course of the film, 143 00:06:07,822 --> 00:06:11,027 the mother literally goes to hell 144 00:06:11,069 --> 00:06:14,564 to rescue her daughter from the beast. 145 00:06:14,606 --> 00:06:15,896 [roars] 146 00:06:15,938 --> 00:06:17,810 [screams] 147 00:06:17,852 --> 00:06:19,891 [whooshing] 148 00:06:19,933 --> 00:06:22,803 [suspenseful music] 149 00:06:22,845 --> 00:06:24,593 ♪♪ 150 00:06:24,635 --> 00:06:28,047 Pull. 151 00:06:28,088 --> 00:06:30,210 - Phew! Great. - Real nice. 152 00:06:30,252 --> 00:06:33,498 The good fortune of "Poltergeist" was that 153 00:06:33,540 --> 00:06:36,245 it did have the budget to allow 154 00:06:36,287 --> 00:06:39,741 the filmmakers to express their imagination on film. 155 00:06:39,782 --> 00:06:41,946 A spirit coming down the stairs for the first time. 156 00:06:41,988 --> 00:06:44,734 Feeling of the... of the body and the arms coming up. 157 00:06:44,775 --> 00:06:46,607 Just when we begin to see the fingers, 158 00:06:46,648 --> 00:06:48,563 it goes whoosh, 159 00:06:48,604 --> 00:06:52,141 breaks up like blowing a smoke ring apart in the air. 160 00:06:52,182 --> 00:06:55,262 Anything that Tobe and Steven could think of 161 00:06:55,304 --> 00:06:58,050 that belonged in the movie was in the movie. 162 00:06:58,092 --> 00:07:00,172 ♪♪ 163 00:07:00,214 --> 00:07:03,419 both: [screaming] 164 00:07:03,460 --> 00:07:06,498 But there's no CGI in "Poltergeist." 165 00:07:06,540 --> 00:07:08,828 [whimpering] 166 00:07:08,870 --> 00:07:10,493 [grunts] 167 00:07:10,534 --> 00:07:14,571 God. The face-tearing scene, 168 00:07:14,612 --> 00:07:18,482 that whole sequence you can see the three pieces. 169 00:07:18,524 --> 00:07:21,229 There's me with the little scratches. 170 00:07:21,271 --> 00:07:23,309 [ominous music] 171 00:07:23,351 --> 00:07:27,013 Then there's me with this giant prosthetic on my face 172 00:07:27,055 --> 00:07:30,176 that I pull off and pull strips of it off, 173 00:07:30,218 --> 00:07:33,588 and then there's this really cool dummy 174 00:07:33,630 --> 00:07:35,627 that looks like me, which is actually 175 00:07:35,669 --> 00:07:37,874 this dummy with Steven Spielberg's hands underneath 176 00:07:37,916 --> 00:07:40,746 pulling all this gunk off. 177 00:07:40,787 --> 00:07:42,536 ♪♪ 178 00:07:42,576 --> 00:07:44,173 When they showed it to me the first time, 179 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,031 I just burst out laughing, and the... the... 180 00:07:46,072 --> 00:07:47,797 one of the sound designers said, "What's so funny?" 181 00:07:47,820 --> 00:07:49,984 And I said, "Everyone's gonna remember this scene. 182 00:07:50,025 --> 00:07:52,564 "I just pulled my face off and it fell in the sink." 183 00:07:54,354 --> 00:07:57,557 [whooshing] 184 00:07:57,599 --> 00:07:59,056 [laughs] 185 00:07:59,097 --> 00:08:00,804 All sorts of different effects. 186 00:08:00,845 --> 00:08:04,257 Opticals, forced perspective sets, 187 00:08:04,299 --> 00:08:07,128 contrazoom when JoBeth Williams is running down the corridor, 188 00:08:07,170 --> 00:08:10,083 and also, brilliant practical effects. 189 00:08:10,125 --> 00:08:12,829 [lighting roars] 190 00:08:12,871 --> 00:08:15,327 Oh, yeah, boy, that tree. 191 00:08:15,368 --> 00:08:17,158 ♪♪ 192 00:08:17,199 --> 00:08:20,403 Steven had this image, 'cause when he was a kid, 193 00:08:20,445 --> 00:08:22,484 there was a tree outside his bedroom window 194 00:08:22,525 --> 00:08:23,815 that scared the crap out of him, 195 00:08:23,857 --> 00:08:26,687 and so that tree had to be there. 196 00:08:26,729 --> 00:08:28,809 It was a rubber tree. For some reason, 197 00:08:28,851 --> 00:08:30,806 they put these, like, knobs in there. 198 00:08:30,848 --> 00:08:32,721 These little prickly things. 199 00:08:32,763 --> 00:08:34,760 Well, obviously, the tree, kind of climb up, 200 00:08:34,801 --> 00:08:36,716 and kind of, um, like, 201 00:08:36,758 --> 00:08:39,212 scratching you and pouring rain 202 00:08:39,254 --> 00:08:41,501 and you got the wind machines and the lightning 203 00:08:41,543 --> 00:08:43,249 and... [snorts] 204 00:08:43,291 --> 00:08:45,580 things are going off, and I'm going, Jeez. 205 00:08:45,621 --> 00:08:47,411 - Look out. - My leg! 206 00:08:47,453 --> 00:08:49,866 For me, the tree coming alive, 207 00:08:49,907 --> 00:08:53,194 uh, was very vivid and visceral, 208 00:08:53,236 --> 00:08:55,442 and so every time I sort of looked out the window, 209 00:08:55,483 --> 00:08:57,689 and the moonlight was just so, 210 00:08:57,731 --> 00:08:59,811 I would constantly picture that tree. 211 00:08:59,853 --> 00:09:02,974 [whooshing] 212 00:09:03,015 --> 00:09:05,138 I'm still pissed off about the tree. 213 00:09:05,179 --> 00:09:07,094 That tree was the hardest thing to deal with 214 00:09:07,136 --> 00:09:09,799 in the whole movie. 215 00:09:09,841 --> 00:09:11,422 Except for the pool. 216 00:09:11,463 --> 00:09:14,418 My God. [breathes heavily] 217 00:09:14,459 --> 00:09:17,830 The swimming pool. 218 00:09:17,871 --> 00:09:19,786 Be careful, honey. 219 00:09:19,828 --> 00:09:21,450 Craig Raiche, the prop guy, 220 00:09:21,492 --> 00:09:24,363 stashed all these skeletons all over the place. 221 00:09:24,405 --> 00:09:26,277 [dramatic musical flourish] 222 00:09:26,319 --> 00:09:30,272 [screams] 223 00:09:30,314 --> 00:09:32,070 We did a take and went to Craig and I says, 224 00:09:32,104 --> 00:09:33,601 "Hey, Craig," I s... you know, 225 00:09:33,643 --> 00:09:35,807 "you don't need to make them smell like this." 226 00:09:35,848 --> 00:09:38,054 You know, they... they smelled. 227 00:09:38,096 --> 00:09:41,008 And he says, "Well, they're real." 228 00:09:41,050 --> 00:09:44,296 [whimpering, panting] 229 00:09:44,338 --> 00:09:45,919 I mean, it's a joke now, 230 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,708 of something was on an Indian burial ground 231 00:09:47,750 --> 00:09:49,706 and so you know it's gonna be haunted. 232 00:09:49,748 --> 00:09:52,993 And in "Poltergeist," the great line at the end of the movie 233 00:09:53,035 --> 00:09:55,366 is when Craig T. Nelson grabs James Karen 234 00:09:55,407 --> 00:09:57,113 and shakes him and says... 235 00:09:57,155 --> 00:09:59,277 You son of a bitch, you moved the cemetery 236 00:09:59,319 --> 00:10:01,274 but you left the bodies, didn't you? 237 00:10:01,316 --> 00:10:03,563 You son of the bitch, you left the bodies 238 00:10:03,605 --> 00:10:05,560 and you only moved the headstones! 239 00:10:05,602 --> 00:10:08,349 You only moved the headstones. 240 00:10:08,390 --> 00:10:11,220 And I think, in a way, that says a lot about America, 241 00:10:11,262 --> 00:10:13,966 that we, uh... we moved the headstones. 242 00:10:14,008 --> 00:10:15,714 But the bodies are still there. 243 00:10:15,756 --> 00:10:18,669 [whooshing] 244 00:10:19,917 --> 00:10:21,498 The spirit of "Poltergeist" 245 00:10:21,540 --> 00:10:24,037 lives on in the "Insidious" series, 246 00:10:24,078 --> 00:10:28,032 which shows us an afterlife filled with restless souls. 247 00:10:28,073 --> 00:10:29,779 Some friendly. 248 00:10:29,821 --> 00:10:31,444 Some deadly. 249 00:10:31,485 --> 00:10:32,859 [thump, rattling] 250 00:10:36,188 --> 00:10:38,311 Slow down. 251 00:10:38,352 --> 00:10:40,391 James Wan's film "Insidious" is a ghost story 252 00:10:40,433 --> 00:10:42,014 for the 21st century. 253 00:10:42,055 --> 00:10:45,011 It delivers shocks, suspense, 254 00:10:45,051 --> 00:10:46,924 and genuine emotion to audiences 255 00:10:46,966 --> 00:10:48,464 that may think they've seen it all. 256 00:10:48,506 --> 00:10:50,752 [whispering] Give it, give me. 257 00:10:50,794 --> 00:10:53,457 I want it. I want it 258 00:10:53,499 --> 00:10:54,872 [screaming] now! 259 00:10:54,914 --> 00:10:56,745 [baby crying] 260 00:10:56,787 --> 00:10:59,117 [suspenseful music] 261 00:10:59,158 --> 00:11:00,948 It's a fun thing to mess with, 262 00:11:00,990 --> 00:11:04,278 that suburban domestic bliss that's supposed to exist. 263 00:11:04,319 --> 00:11:05,817 Can you go wake up Dalton? 264 00:11:05,858 --> 00:11:07,399 It's a fun thing to get in there 265 00:11:07,439 --> 00:11:10,270 and rip that domestic bliss away from a family. 266 00:11:10,311 --> 00:11:12,226 Dalton, Dalton. 267 00:11:12,267 --> 00:11:13,765 Dalton. 268 00:11:13,807 --> 00:11:15,804 There is no brain damage. 269 00:11:15,845 --> 00:11:20,215 "Insidious" is about a, uh, mother and a father 270 00:11:20,257 --> 00:11:22,504 who lose their child 271 00:11:22,546 --> 00:11:25,167 to a place called "The Further." 272 00:11:25,209 --> 00:11:26,250 [ominous music] 273 00:11:26,290 --> 00:11:28,247 What does that mean? 274 00:11:28,288 --> 00:11:31,742 The Further is a world far beyond our own. 275 00:11:31,784 --> 00:11:34,655 It's a dark realm filled with the tortured souls 276 00:11:34,696 --> 00:11:36,402 of the dead. 277 00:11:36,444 --> 00:11:40,106 A place not meant for the living. 278 00:11:40,148 --> 00:11:41,896 And all these ghosts that are crowding 279 00:11:41,938 --> 00:11:44,392 in this family's house are trying to get into his body. 280 00:11:44,434 --> 00:11:45,766 It's an empty vessel. 281 00:11:45,807 --> 00:11:49,220 And they do everything in their power 282 00:11:49,261 --> 00:11:51,259 to try and get their child back. 283 00:11:51,300 --> 00:11:53,506 And that's really about what you would do as a parent 284 00:11:53,547 --> 00:11:55,794 if you... if you lost your child, 285 00:11:55,836 --> 00:11:57,418 or if your child got sick. 286 00:11:57,459 --> 00:11:58,933 [baby crying] [dramatic musical flourish] 287 00:11:58,957 --> 00:12:01,246 [screams] Josh, Josh, Josh, please, come... 288 00:12:01,288 --> 00:12:03,160 Twenty minutes into the movie, 289 00:12:03,202 --> 00:12:04,825 when just as the audience is saying, 290 00:12:04,867 --> 00:12:07,405 Why on Earth would you not get out of this house, 291 00:12:07,447 --> 00:12:10,152 the, uh... Patrick Wilson says to Rose Byrne's character... 292 00:12:10,193 --> 00:12:11,940 We're going. 293 00:12:11,982 --> 00:12:14,396 And they move houses. 294 00:12:14,438 --> 00:12:16,269 [foreboding music] 295 00:12:16,310 --> 00:12:20,513 And the haunting follows them to their next house. 296 00:12:20,555 --> 00:12:21,887 - [doors slam] - [gasps] 297 00:12:21,928 --> 00:12:24,300 [giggling] 298 00:12:24,341 --> 00:12:26,630 It's not the house that's haunted. 299 00:12:26,672 --> 00:12:29,043 ♪♪ 300 00:12:29,085 --> 00:12:30,709 It's your son. 301 00:12:30,750 --> 00:12:32,248 ♪♪ 302 00:12:32,290 --> 00:12:33,764 So it doesn't matter where they move, 303 00:12:33,788 --> 00:12:35,303 they're gonna be... they're gonna be haunted 304 00:12:35,327 --> 00:12:37,408 no matter where they are. 305 00:12:37,450 --> 00:12:40,029 ♪♪ 306 00:12:40,071 --> 00:12:41,528 [dramatic thump] 307 00:12:41,570 --> 00:12:44,275 ♪♪ 308 00:12:44,316 --> 00:12:48,019 So they call upon my character, Elise Rainier, 309 00:12:48,061 --> 00:12:52,514 who is a known ghost hunter, so to speak. 310 00:12:52,556 --> 00:12:55,219 I think Elise is distinct and unusual in the sense 311 00:12:55,261 --> 00:12:58,548 that, um, I'm not a typical heroine. 312 00:12:58,589 --> 00:12:59,796 ♪♪ 313 00:12:59,838 --> 00:13:01,502 [dramatic musical flourish] 314 00:13:01,544 --> 00:13:03,500 [suspenseful music] 315 00:13:03,542 --> 00:13:04,957 [wheezing] 316 00:13:04,997 --> 00:13:06,870 This is how you die. 317 00:13:06,912 --> 00:13:09,617 Not today it isn't. 318 00:13:09,659 --> 00:13:11,781 [thump] [grunts] 319 00:13:11,823 --> 00:13:14,195 [whooshing] 320 00:13:14,236 --> 00:13:20,103 ♪♪ 321 00:13:20,104 --> 00:13:22,558 Come on, bitch. 322 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,224 ♪♪ 323 00:13:24,265 --> 00:13:27,843 What I tried to do was find the places in myself 324 00:13:27,885 --> 00:13:30,840 of empathy, of reception. 325 00:13:30,881 --> 00:13:32,879 Elise is a really good receiver. 326 00:13:32,921 --> 00:13:34,585 She's got a good radio. 327 00:13:34,627 --> 00:13:37,873 We have some help. 328 00:13:37,914 --> 00:13:40,203 Who? 329 00:13:40,244 --> 00:13:43,407 Someone else is here with us. 330 00:13:43,449 --> 00:13:47,194 Mom. 331 00:13:47,235 --> 00:13:49,251 You know, she's tuned in. And I believe all people 332 00:13:49,275 --> 00:13:50,939 have that ability. 333 00:13:50,981 --> 00:13:54,393 I don't think it... it's just, uh, assigned to a few. 334 00:13:54,435 --> 00:13:57,057 But we're ful... so full of static 335 00:13:57,098 --> 00:14:00,510 that I think we don't hear very often at all. 336 00:14:00,552 --> 00:14:03,465 We don't hear each other, let alone another world. 337 00:14:03,506 --> 00:14:05,504 [whooshing] 338 00:14:05,545 --> 00:14:10,955 ♪♪ 339 00:14:10,997 --> 00:14:14,118 The first "Insidious" score was a really great experience 340 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,865 beca... it was... it was... it's a very pure, 341 00:14:16,906 --> 00:14:20,152 very raw filmmaking experience all around. 342 00:14:20,193 --> 00:14:22,524 [whooshing] 343 00:14:22,566 --> 00:14:24,147 both: [grunting] 344 00:14:24,188 --> 00:14:26,394 My friend found this rusted out piano, 345 00:14:26,436 --> 00:14:28,974 and you flick a string, and just this... just... 346 00:14:29,016 --> 00:14:32,012 eons of just crud come flying off of it. 347 00:14:32,053 --> 00:14:33,944 It had been abandoned in the alley behind his studio 348 00:14:33,968 --> 00:14:35,317 for some time and they dragged it in there 349 00:14:35,341 --> 00:14:37,171 and I got to go in and record on it. 350 00:14:37,213 --> 00:14:38,961 [rusted piano crash] 351 00:14:39,003 --> 00:14:41,708 So that made up a big part of the sound of that film. 352 00:14:41,749 --> 00:14:45,203 ♪♪ 353 00:14:45,245 --> 00:14:48,116 We were so thankful when "Insidious" was a hit film 354 00:14:48,157 --> 00:14:50,862 - and people really took to it. - [screams] 355 00:14:50,904 --> 00:14:52,610 Death is the one inevitable thing. 356 00:14:52,652 --> 00:14:54,275 It's coming for all of us. 357 00:14:54,316 --> 00:14:56,814 There's a human need to answer that question 358 00:14:56,855 --> 00:14:58,436 of like after death, and I think 359 00:14:58,478 --> 00:15:01,516 ghost films feed into that. 360 00:15:01,557 --> 00:15:03,305 There's very little we really know 361 00:15:03,347 --> 00:15:05,427 about the spirit world, if there... 362 00:15:05,469 --> 00:15:07,133 whether you believe in it or not. 363 00:15:07,175 --> 00:15:08,965 I tend to believe in everything 364 00:15:09,006 --> 00:15:12,127 because I think we know so little about so much. 365 00:15:12,169 --> 00:15:14,666 all: [screaming, groaning] 366 00:15:14,707 --> 00:15:17,246 [whimpering] 367 00:15:17,287 --> 00:15:18,826 [sheet ripping] 368 00:15:18,868 --> 00:15:20,450 [gasps] 369 00:15:20,492 --> 00:15:22,405 The "Insidious" series and "Poltergeist" 370 00:15:22,447 --> 00:15:25,777 showed us normal families bonded by a love 371 00:15:25,818 --> 00:15:29,105 strong enough to survive a supernatural attack. 372 00:15:29,147 --> 00:15:32,892 But one of the greatest film directors of all time, 373 00:15:32,934 --> 00:15:35,847 painted a much darker picture of parenthood 374 00:15:35,889 --> 00:15:37,719 and the afterlife. 375 00:15:42,422 --> 00:15:45,709 The haunted house is a staple of horror films. 376 00:15:45,751 --> 00:15:47,582 It's usually a sinister mansion 377 00:15:47,624 --> 00:15:49,496 where murders have been committed. 378 00:15:49,537 --> 00:15:51,119 Or about to be committed. 379 00:15:51,161 --> 00:15:53,990 This house, 380 00:15:54,032 --> 00:15:56,154 it knows we're here. 381 00:15:56,196 --> 00:15:58,526 Two haunted house movies loom above the rest. 382 00:15:58,568 --> 00:16:00,025 [suspenseful music] 383 00:16:00,065 --> 00:16:01,855 Stanley Kubrick's "The Shining," 384 00:16:01,897 --> 00:16:04,560 and Robert Wise's "The Haunting." 385 00:16:04,602 --> 00:16:06,308 ♪♪ 386 00:16:06,349 --> 00:16:07,782 Usually ghost stories work when it's about 387 00:16:07,806 --> 00:16:09,637 what you don't see. 388 00:16:09,679 --> 00:16:12,176 And so that's, in a way, why I probably separated out 389 00:16:12,217 --> 00:16:15,629 what is my absolute favorite horror movie of all time, 390 00:16:15,671 --> 00:16:18,126 um, which is "The Haunting." 391 00:16:18,168 --> 00:16:20,248 No one who rented Hill House 392 00:16:20,290 --> 00:16:22,787 ever stayed for more than a few days. 393 00:16:22,829 --> 00:16:24,742 I just think that's the ultimate horror movie. 394 00:16:24,784 --> 00:16:27,738 The dead are not quiet in Hill House. 395 00:16:27,780 --> 00:16:29,820 ♪♪ 396 00:16:29,862 --> 00:16:32,774 "The Haunting" is about a group of people 397 00:16:32,816 --> 00:16:36,228 who are brought together in this old, dark house 398 00:16:36,270 --> 00:16:39,391 to try to find out what's at the root 399 00:16:39,432 --> 00:16:42,096 of supernatural spirits. 400 00:16:42,138 --> 00:16:45,383 The house is calling you. 401 00:16:45,424 --> 00:16:47,421 It's also about a woman 402 00:16:47,463 --> 00:16:51,458 who has had a very troubled relationship with her mother, 403 00:16:51,500 --> 00:16:55,537 and who goes away to be a part of this experience. 404 00:16:55,578 --> 00:16:58,574 Don't let me go. Stay with me. 405 00:16:58,616 --> 00:17:00,489 ♪♪ 406 00:17:00,531 --> 00:17:03,527 "The Haunting" works so well because we don't see anything. 407 00:17:03,568 --> 00:17:06,190 [indistinct speech] 408 00:17:06,232 --> 00:17:08,520 We don't see the ghosts at work. 409 00:17:08,561 --> 00:17:11,225 We sense, we hear them. 410 00:17:11,266 --> 00:17:14,471 - [indistinct speech] - Are you awake? 411 00:17:14,513 --> 00:17:16,967 Don't say a word, Theo, not a word. 412 00:17:17,009 --> 00:17:19,007 Don't let it know you're in my room. 413 00:17:19,048 --> 00:17:22,627 We are given complete freedom in our minds 414 00:17:22,668 --> 00:17:24,874 to wander through the house. 415 00:17:24,916 --> 00:17:26,622 [gasps] 416 00:17:26,663 --> 00:17:29,243 And it is one of the most terrifying films 417 00:17:29,285 --> 00:17:31,865 because of Wise's instinct 418 00:17:31,907 --> 00:17:35,735 to focus on the faces of those being terrified, 419 00:17:35,777 --> 00:17:38,066 because that is what you're relating to 420 00:17:38,107 --> 00:17:40,064 and that is what is informing your emotion, 421 00:17:40,104 --> 00:17:41,852 not the ghosts. 422 00:17:41,894 --> 00:17:43,725 Oh, God, no. 423 00:17:43,767 --> 00:17:47,137 The first movie that terrified me to the point 424 00:17:47,179 --> 00:17:49,842 where I could barely look at it was "The Haunting." 425 00:17:49,884 --> 00:17:52,089 I was probably 11 years old, 426 00:17:52,131 --> 00:17:54,128 and you never really see anything 427 00:17:54,170 --> 00:17:56,293 - until that woman... - When that door is pounding. 428 00:17:56,333 --> 00:17:58,622 [door pounding] 429 00:17:58,664 --> 00:18:01,660 The door kind of bulges. 430 00:18:01,702 --> 00:18:04,865 ♪♪ 431 00:18:04,906 --> 00:18:07,736 And finally, she's going up this rattly, 432 00:18:07,777 --> 00:18:09,941 unsteady spiral staircase, 433 00:18:09,983 --> 00:18:12,896 and the trap door opens and it's the professor's wife, 434 00:18:12,938 --> 00:18:14,768 and she goes, "Ah!" 435 00:18:14,810 --> 00:18:17,682 Ah! 436 00:18:17,724 --> 00:18:19,762 And I'm thinking, I'm dead. [chuckles] 437 00:18:19,804 --> 00:18:22,384 I had a heart attack, I'm never gonna grow up. 438 00:18:22,426 --> 00:18:24,132 ♪♪ 439 00:18:24,173 --> 00:18:27,128 Of course, Stephen King did grow up. 440 00:18:27,169 --> 00:18:29,749 And 17 years later, his second novel 441 00:18:29,791 --> 00:18:32,122 "The Shining" was adapted for the screen 442 00:18:32,163 --> 00:18:35,701 by the legendary director Stanley Kubrick. 443 00:18:35,742 --> 00:18:38,197 Like "The Haunting," "The Shining" is about 444 00:18:38,239 --> 00:18:40,194 - a bad place. - [screams] 445 00:18:40,236 --> 00:18:42,108 And the terrible effect it has 446 00:18:42,109 --> 00:18:45,230 on the people who stay there. 447 00:18:45,271 --> 00:18:47,851 Jack Nicholson plays Jack Torrance, 448 00:18:47,893 --> 00:18:51,596 an unstable writer who takes the job of winter caretaker 449 00:18:51,638 --> 00:18:53,843 at the secluded Overlook Hotel. 450 00:18:53,885 --> 00:18:55,467 [heart beating] 451 00:18:55,509 --> 00:18:57,422 Is there something bad here? 452 00:18:57,464 --> 00:19:00,710 Well... 453 00:19:00,752 --> 00:19:03,207 you know, Doc, when something happens, 454 00:19:03,248 --> 00:19:06,577 it can leave a trace of itself behind. 455 00:19:06,619 --> 00:19:10,947 Things that people who "shine" can see. 456 00:19:10,988 --> 00:19:14,400 Jack and his son Danny have a psychic gift. 457 00:19:14,442 --> 00:19:17,272 A shining that lets them see the ghosts 458 00:19:17,314 --> 00:19:19,852 of the murdered people at the Overlook. 459 00:19:19,894 --> 00:19:22,307 Those ghosts terrorize Danny, 460 00:19:22,349 --> 00:19:25,137 while they slowly drive Jack insane. 461 00:19:25,179 --> 00:19:27,176 [guffaws] 462 00:19:27,217 --> 00:19:29,215 Jack Torrance, he's an alcoholic. 463 00:19:29,257 --> 00:19:32,794 He doesn't know how to control it. 464 00:19:32,835 --> 00:19:35,874 And he blames his son and his wife 465 00:19:35,915 --> 00:19:37,996 for his artistic impotence. 466 00:19:38,038 --> 00:19:40,076 Whenever you come in here and interrupt me 467 00:19:40,118 --> 00:19:41,991 you're breaking my concentration. 468 00:19:42,032 --> 00:19:45,029 You're distracting me. And it will then take me time 469 00:19:45,070 --> 00:19:47,192 to get back to where I was. 470 00:19:47,234 --> 00:19:49,315 There's something about this hotel that just wants 471 00:19:49,356 --> 00:19:52,394 the people who go there to murder each other. 472 00:19:52,436 --> 00:19:54,725 Come and play with us, Danny. 473 00:19:54,765 --> 00:19:57,096 [ominous music] 474 00:19:57,138 --> 00:20:00,175 Forever. 475 00:20:00,217 --> 00:20:03,338 And ever. 476 00:20:03,380 --> 00:20:05,502 And ever. 477 00:20:05,544 --> 00:20:08,415 "The Shining" is filled with the kind of iconic scenes 478 00:20:08,456 --> 00:20:11,494 you'd expect from one of history's greatest directors. 479 00:20:11,536 --> 00:20:14,366 But Kubrick made many changes to King's story 480 00:20:14,408 --> 00:20:16,280 that didn't sit well with its author. 481 00:20:16,321 --> 00:20:18,901 I can enjoy it on the same level that you could enjoy 482 00:20:18,943 --> 00:20:21,399 a beautifully restored Cadillac without a motor in it. 483 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:22,980 - [laughs] - You know? 484 00:20:23,021 --> 00:20:25,394 My rap about it is there's no character arc. 485 00:20:25,435 --> 00:20:28,597 In the book, Jack Torrance goes from a nice guy 486 00:20:28,639 --> 00:20:32,509 who's trying to get better for his family and for himself. 487 00:20:32,551 --> 00:20:35,713 And I felt like Jack Nicholson 488 00:20:35,755 --> 00:20:38,502 played Jack Torrance as though he were crazy from the... 489 00:20:38,544 --> 00:20:39,875 Crazy from minute one. 490 00:20:39,917 --> 00:20:43,287 That is, uh, quite a story. 491 00:20:43,329 --> 00:20:45,201 Talking with Mr. Ullman in the office, 492 00:20:45,243 --> 00:20:47,532 and Ullman saying this and that and Jack's going, 493 00:20:47,573 --> 00:20:49,363 - "Yes." - [laughs] 494 00:20:49,404 --> 00:20:51,360 "Absolutely, Mr. Ullman." 495 00:20:51,401 --> 00:20:54,023 Well, you can rest assured, Mr. Ullman, 496 00:20:54,065 --> 00:20:56,562 that's not gonna happen with me. 497 00:20:56,604 --> 00:20:59,184 And I also thought that Kubrick had taken 498 00:20:59,226 --> 00:21:01,847 a pretty strong, scary, 499 00:21:01,888 --> 00:21:04,177 suspense, horror novel 500 00:21:04,219 --> 00:21:06,549 and turned it into an art film. 501 00:21:06,591 --> 00:21:08,214 I think Kubrick was doing... 502 00:21:08,255 --> 00:21:10,710 was trying to make an anti-horror movie. 503 00:21:10,752 --> 00:21:13,041 He was intentionally going against the grain 504 00:21:13,082 --> 00:21:15,038 of the horror tropes. 505 00:21:15,079 --> 00:21:17,868 You think you know how horror is made, 506 00:21:17,910 --> 00:21:19,990 well, I'm showing you how I do it. 507 00:21:20,032 --> 00:21:22,528 Counter to convention in "The Shining" 508 00:21:22,570 --> 00:21:25,691 is the brightness of the lighting style. 509 00:21:25,733 --> 00:21:28,480 And he's almost always on really wide lenses. 510 00:21:28,521 --> 00:21:30,518 'Cause he doesn't do that kind of horror, 511 00:21:30,519 --> 00:21:32,517 people don't pop out, you know, 512 00:21:32,558 --> 00:21:35,262 and stab you or whatever. 513 00:21:35,304 --> 00:21:37,260 It's much more psychological, 514 00:21:37,302 --> 00:21:39,631 so it works for what he's doing. 515 00:21:39,673 --> 00:21:41,130 It's even creepier. 516 00:21:41,172 --> 00:21:43,294 [dramatic musical flourish] 517 00:21:43,335 --> 00:21:45,167 So much of the movie is from the perspective 518 00:21:45,208 --> 00:21:46,516 of whatever character you're with, 519 00:21:46,540 --> 00:21:48,787 so for Danny, it's one thing, 520 00:21:48,828 --> 00:21:51,700 for Jack Nicholson's character it's this sort of unseen menace 521 00:21:51,742 --> 00:21:53,340 that sort of takes him over, and Shelley Duvall, 522 00:21:53,364 --> 00:21:55,195 so she's a... a ghost story freak, 523 00:21:55,237 --> 00:21:56,943 and it's like, so in her mind 524 00:21:56,985 --> 00:21:59,232 the horror takes on this cheesier form. 525 00:21:59,274 --> 00:22:01,205 And it's like, Oh... it's just, everybo... it's all from 526 00:22:01,229 --> 00:22:04,143 subjective perspective, which just makes it all the creepier. 527 00:22:04,183 --> 00:22:05,349 [tense music] 528 00:22:05,391 --> 00:22:07,804 Family is a great source 529 00:22:07,846 --> 00:22:09,760 for horror storytelling 530 00:22:09,802 --> 00:22:11,341 because family is very intimate, 531 00:22:11,383 --> 00:22:13,714 family is very close to us, 532 00:22:13,755 --> 00:22:17,333 and family is very dangerous, if you're in the wrong family. 533 00:22:17,375 --> 00:22:19,580 - Here's Johnny. - [gasps] 534 00:22:19,622 --> 00:22:22,618 The Overlook Hotel and this trauma-filled family, 535 00:22:22,660 --> 00:22:25,116 they just go together so well. 536 00:22:25,157 --> 00:22:28,695 It's a perfect location for them to fall apart. 537 00:22:28,736 --> 00:22:30,982 Danny! 538 00:22:31,024 --> 00:22:33,480 And that's often the case in... in haunted house movies, 539 00:22:33,522 --> 00:22:35,644 in movies about ghosts. People who are traumatized 540 00:22:35,686 --> 00:22:37,201 end up there for one reason or another, 541 00:22:37,225 --> 00:22:39,597 and the house is just like, Yes. 542 00:22:39,639 --> 00:22:43,716 This is a person that's ready to be affected and impacted 543 00:22:43,758 --> 00:22:46,047 by unspoken darkness. 544 00:22:46,089 --> 00:22:48,169 "The Shining" featured a boy who could see 545 00:22:48,211 --> 00:22:50,707 the malevolent spirits of the dead. 546 00:22:50,749 --> 00:22:52,996 Two decades later, "The Sixth Sense" 547 00:22:53,038 --> 00:22:56,742 told the story of another haunted child. 548 00:22:56,784 --> 00:22:59,904 This time by ghosts who were desperate for help. 549 00:22:59,945 --> 00:23:01,111 [dramatic musical flourish] 550 00:23:01,153 --> 00:23:02,360 [gagging] 551 00:23:06,271 --> 00:23:08,934 [whispering] I see dead people. 552 00:23:08,976 --> 00:23:12,263 Dead people, like, in graves? In coffins? 553 00:23:12,305 --> 00:23:13,803 [tense music] 554 00:23:13,845 --> 00:23:16,924 Walking around like regular people. 555 00:23:16,966 --> 00:23:19,064 There are many different ways that you can tell a story 556 00:23:19,088 --> 00:23:20,794 within the context of a horror movie. 557 00:23:20,836 --> 00:23:23,083 And there's high-brow and low-brow, like, you know, 558 00:23:23,125 --> 00:23:26,245 there are many colors to the spectrum of horror. 559 00:23:26,287 --> 00:23:29,325 Cole, you're scaring me. 560 00:23:29,366 --> 00:23:32,362 They scare me too sometimes. 561 00:23:32,404 --> 00:23:33,902 They? 562 00:23:33,944 --> 00:23:36,482 [suspenseful music] 563 00:23:36,524 --> 00:23:37,731 ♪♪ 564 00:23:37,772 --> 00:23:40,103 Ghosts. 565 00:23:40,145 --> 00:23:41,684 Supernatural thriller. 566 00:23:41,726 --> 00:23:43,442 That was what they called "The Sixth Sense." 567 00:23:43,473 --> 00:23:45,637 And there were orders not to call it a horror film. 568 00:23:45,679 --> 00:23:49,174 One of the scariest, most brilliant films ever made, 569 00:23:49,216 --> 00:23:51,255 and they said, "Don't call it a horror movie." 570 00:23:51,297 --> 00:23:53,419 It was like "horror" was a dirty word. 571 00:23:53,460 --> 00:23:55,166 I'll show you where my dad keeps his gun. 572 00:23:55,208 --> 00:23:56,416 Come on. 573 00:23:56,457 --> 00:23:58,288 ♪♪ 574 00:23:58,329 --> 00:24:01,866 Cole Sear is a eight-year-old boy 575 00:24:01,908 --> 00:24:04,988 living in Philadelphia, uh, with a young, single mom. 576 00:24:05,029 --> 00:24:06,860 He's a very troubled and disturbed boy. 577 00:24:06,902 --> 00:24:10,939 And he runs into a child psychologist. 578 00:24:10,980 --> 00:24:14,101 Think about what you wanna get out of our time together. 579 00:24:14,142 --> 00:24:15,932 What our goal should be. 580 00:24:15,974 --> 00:24:17,305 Instead of something I want, 581 00:24:17,347 --> 00:24:19,427 can it be something I don't want? 582 00:24:19,469 --> 00:24:22,674 And he tries to treat Cole, and tries to help him, 583 00:24:22,715 --> 00:24:24,712 and he ends up finding out that Cole 584 00:24:24,754 --> 00:24:28,124 believes that he sees ghosts and spirits 585 00:24:28,166 --> 00:24:30,746 of people walking around in day to day life. 586 00:24:30,788 --> 00:24:32,702 And they even come into his home. 587 00:24:32,744 --> 00:24:34,991 Mama. 588 00:24:35,033 --> 00:24:38,694 No, dinner is not ready. 589 00:24:38,736 --> 00:24:40,442 ♪♪ 590 00:24:40,484 --> 00:24:42,315 What's great is that when somebody like 591 00:24:42,357 --> 00:24:44,770 M. Night Shyamalan comes along with "The Sixth Sense," 592 00:24:44,811 --> 00:24:46,643 he has the confidence to slow it down 593 00:24:46,684 --> 00:24:49,306 and make it intimate, and make it about the performances, 594 00:24:49,348 --> 00:24:52,302 and make you completely invested in the premise. 595 00:24:52,344 --> 00:24:54,258 ♪♪ 596 00:24:54,300 --> 00:24:57,587 "The Sixth Sense" was deeply soulful. 597 00:24:57,629 --> 00:25:00,417 The purpose of all the ghosts, it's all about, like, 598 00:25:00,459 --> 00:25:03,080 resolving your human relationships, 599 00:25:03,122 --> 00:25:06,242 which is actually more scary than a ghost. 600 00:25:06,284 --> 00:25:09,363 [laughs] 601 00:25:09,405 --> 00:25:12,859 It was perfectly cast as well. It was, like, 602 00:25:12,901 --> 00:25:15,814 an awesome, different thing for Bruce Willis at the time. 603 00:25:15,856 --> 00:25:19,101 I can't be your doctor anymore. 604 00:25:19,143 --> 00:25:21,515 I haven't paid enough attention to my family. 605 00:25:21,557 --> 00:25:24,553 Poor Haley Joel Osment was fantastic, 606 00:25:24,595 --> 00:25:27,424 who had this most expressive face 607 00:25:27,466 --> 00:25:29,629 and pain and loneliness 608 00:25:29,671 --> 00:25:34,249 that's expressed so well that he feels 40 years old 609 00:25:34,291 --> 00:25:35,955 rather than 10 years old. 610 00:25:35,997 --> 00:25:37,827 You believe me, right? 611 00:25:37,869 --> 00:25:40,990 Haley Joel Osment is from another planet in that movie. 612 00:25:41,031 --> 00:25:44,652 And you're so drawn to... to Haley Joel Osment 613 00:25:44,694 --> 00:25:48,022 that you can't help but... but sympathize for the people 614 00:25:48,064 --> 00:25:50,686 that have died through him. 615 00:25:50,727 --> 00:25:52,143 [dramatic musical flourish] 616 00:25:52,184 --> 00:25:53,932 That shoot was sort of my education 617 00:25:53,974 --> 00:25:55,680 into a lot of horror films, 618 00:25:55,681 --> 00:25:57,445 because we were watching a lot of things to see 619 00:25:57,469 --> 00:25:59,882 good examples of people in frightening situations. 620 00:25:59,924 --> 00:26:02,046 'Cause at like 10 years old, you haven't really had 621 00:26:02,088 --> 00:26:03,961 a whole lot of traumatizing experiences 622 00:26:04,002 --> 00:26:07,040 most of the time. 623 00:26:07,082 --> 00:26:08,455 What is it? What...? 624 00:26:08,497 --> 00:26:11,160 [whispering] Why did you leave me? 625 00:26:11,201 --> 00:26:12,450 [ominous music] 626 00:26:12,491 --> 00:26:13,989 I didn't leave you. 627 00:26:14,031 --> 00:26:17,984 [object clinks, rolls] 628 00:26:18,026 --> 00:26:20,107 I did not see the twist coming in that film. 629 00:26:20,148 --> 00:26:21,813 - I was so scared. - No, and anybody... 630 00:26:21,854 --> 00:26:23,852 by the way, anybody that tells you they guessed it, 631 00:26:23,893 --> 00:26:25,974 - they're so full of it. - I so didn't. 632 00:26:26,016 --> 00:26:27,406 - Nobody gets is. - Did you guess it? 633 00:26:27,430 --> 00:26:29,178 - No... - Oh, good, I was gonna say... 634 00:26:29,220 --> 00:26:31,509 I can't even guess the ending of a "Murder, She Wrote," 635 00:26:31,550 --> 00:26:33,215 let alone "The Sixth Sense." [laughter] 636 00:26:33,256 --> 00:26:34,671 [whispering] Anna. 637 00:26:34,713 --> 00:26:36,503 [solemn music] 638 00:26:36,544 --> 00:26:38,375 Happy anniversary. 639 00:26:38,416 --> 00:26:40,456 It's a frightening movie, 640 00:26:40,498 --> 00:26:42,786 but the fear doesn't come from ghosts. 641 00:26:42,827 --> 00:26:44,504 It comes from people being afraid that, uh, 642 00:26:44,533 --> 00:26:46,466 they won't be able to communicate with each other. 643 00:26:46,490 --> 00:26:48,920 So the movie is... communication is the real theme of the movie. 644 00:26:48,944 --> 00:26:50,027 [ominous music] 645 00:26:50,069 --> 00:26:52,024 What do you think they want? 646 00:26:52,066 --> 00:26:53,356 Just help. 647 00:26:53,397 --> 00:26:56,269 That's right. That's what I think too. 648 00:26:56,311 --> 00:26:58,974 They just want help, even the scary ones. 649 00:26:59,015 --> 00:27:00,305 [suspenseful music] 650 00:27:00,347 --> 00:27:02,428 Ah! [panting] 651 00:27:02,470 --> 00:27:07,713 ♪♪ 652 00:27:07,755 --> 00:27:11,832 What sets Cole free from his situation 653 00:27:11,874 --> 00:27:14,055 is when he finally figures out that he has to be a conduit 654 00:27:14,079 --> 00:27:16,534 between people who still need to, uh, 655 00:27:16,576 --> 00:27:17,907 communicate with each other. 656 00:27:17,949 --> 00:27:20,779 Grandma says hi. 657 00:27:20,821 --> 00:27:24,441 And even though Night does some amazing things 658 00:27:24,482 --> 00:27:26,314 that really makes you jump and... and create 659 00:27:26,355 --> 00:27:27,830 some really frightening circumstances, 660 00:27:27,854 --> 00:27:29,892 I think what makes the movie endure 661 00:27:29,934 --> 00:27:32,140 is that anybody can identify with that sort of desire 662 00:27:32,181 --> 00:27:34,678 of saying things to people that you never got to say. 663 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,758 She said 664 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,339 you came to the place where they buried her, 665 00:27:39,380 --> 00:27:42,335 [stirring music] 666 00:27:42,377 --> 00:27:44,873 asked her a question. 667 00:27:44,915 --> 00:27:47,287 ♪♪ 668 00:27:47,328 --> 00:27:49,867 She said the answer is... 669 00:27:49,908 --> 00:27:51,781 ♪♪ 670 00:27:51,823 --> 00:27:53,903 every day. 671 00:27:53,945 --> 00:27:56,276 ♪♪ 672 00:27:56,317 --> 00:27:58,398 The theme of ghosts looking to the living 673 00:27:58,439 --> 00:28:00,478 to solve unfinished business 674 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,058 didn't start with "The Sixth Sense." 675 00:28:03,100 --> 00:28:05,223 Some of the greatest ghost stories of all time, 676 00:28:05,264 --> 00:28:07,011 old and new, 677 00:28:07,053 --> 00:28:09,550 are murder mysteries the dead want us to solve. 678 00:28:09,592 --> 00:28:11,048 [suspenseful music] 679 00:28:14,627 --> 00:28:17,290 [foreboding music] 680 00:28:17,332 --> 00:28:18,871 ♪♪ 681 00:28:18,913 --> 00:28:21,118 - She's mad. - Ghosts can be terrifying. 682 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,783 - [screeches] - [screams] 683 00:28:22,824 --> 00:28:25,072 But in some films, the spirits of the dead 684 00:28:25,113 --> 00:28:28,109 aren't trying to torment the living. 685 00:28:28,151 --> 00:28:30,649 They're victims of terrible crimes, 686 00:28:30,689 --> 00:28:33,686 looking for justice. 687 00:28:33,728 --> 00:28:36,432 - [screeching] - [screams] 688 00:28:36,474 --> 00:28:39,637 Perhaps the greatest ghost mystery movie of all time 689 00:28:39,678 --> 00:28:41,343 is "The Changeling." 690 00:28:41,384 --> 00:28:43,090 It's not as famous as "The Shining" 691 00:28:43,132 --> 00:28:44,672 or "Poltergeist." 692 00:28:44,714 --> 00:28:46,669 But it deserves to be. 693 00:28:46,711 --> 00:28:48,875 [suspenseful music] 694 00:28:48,917 --> 00:28:50,789 "The Changeling" is one of the best 695 00:28:50,831 --> 00:28:53,328 American ghost stories put on film. 696 00:28:53,369 --> 00:28:57,114 Very powerful. And George C. Scott is terrific. 697 00:28:57,156 --> 00:29:00,235 George C. Scott plays a composer 698 00:29:00,277 --> 00:29:01,858 who is dealing with the death 699 00:29:01,900 --> 00:29:04,230 of his young daughter and wife 700 00:29:04,272 --> 00:29:06,935 in a tragic car accident. 701 00:29:06,977 --> 00:29:09,473 ♪♪ 702 00:29:09,515 --> 00:29:12,053 George C. Scott winds up moving 703 00:29:12,095 --> 00:29:15,507 to a vast, crumbling mansion 704 00:29:15,549 --> 00:29:17,547 that hasn't been inhabited in years. 705 00:29:17,589 --> 00:29:19,336 And he's trying to shake himself 706 00:29:19,377 --> 00:29:21,833 of his memory of his daughter. 707 00:29:21,875 --> 00:29:24,454 And then over the course of his stay, 708 00:29:24,496 --> 00:29:26,660 he starts to notice something 709 00:29:26,702 --> 00:29:28,657 trying to communicate with him. 710 00:29:28,699 --> 00:29:32,278 At first, it's really subtle things like a piano note 711 00:29:32,319 --> 00:29:33,776 playing itself. 712 00:29:33,818 --> 00:29:36,189 [piano note rings] 713 00:29:36,231 --> 00:29:38,894 It escalates into pounding noises. 714 00:29:38,936 --> 00:29:41,016 [pounding] 715 00:29:41,058 --> 00:29:43,472 ♪♪ 716 00:29:43,513 --> 00:29:45,553 And so he starts to realize 717 00:29:45,594 --> 00:29:46,944 that there's something in the house 718 00:29:46,968 --> 00:29:50,088 that's trying to connect to him. 719 00:29:50,130 --> 00:29:52,460 "The Changeling" feels very real. 720 00:29:52,502 --> 00:29:54,250 I think that's why I love it so much. 721 00:29:54,291 --> 00:29:57,038 The way it handles the paranormal 722 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,701 is very simple and effective. 723 00:29:59,742 --> 00:30:03,404 [pounding continues] 724 00:30:03,446 --> 00:30:05,735 It's the first movie that, um, 725 00:30:05,777 --> 00:30:09,272 made a bouncing ball absolutely terrifying. 726 00:30:09,314 --> 00:30:13,017 [ball thumping] 727 00:30:13,059 --> 00:30:14,723 So the ball comes thump, thump, 728 00:30:14,765 --> 00:30:17,054 thumping down the stairs, 729 00:30:17,096 --> 00:30:19,176 and George C. Scott is freaked out, 730 00:30:19,218 --> 00:30:21,798 and he says, Enough of that, and he... he takes the ball 731 00:30:21,839 --> 00:30:23,629 to the nearest bridge, 732 00:30:23,670 --> 00:30:27,665 and he drops it 70 feet down into the... the river. 733 00:30:27,707 --> 00:30:30,661 [ominous orchestral music] 734 00:30:30,703 --> 00:30:32,658 And he drives home and he thinks, Phew, 735 00:30:32,700 --> 00:30:34,282 that's over with. 736 00:30:34,324 --> 00:30:35,839 And he walks in through the front door and... 737 00:30:35,863 --> 00:30:42,847 ♪♪ 738 00:30:46,558 --> 00:30:48,614 You know, it makes my skin crawl just to think about it. 739 00:30:48,638 --> 00:30:50,886 - Love that. - What is your name? 740 00:30:50,927 --> 00:30:52,966 ♪♪ 741 00:30:53,008 --> 00:30:54,381 [whispering] Joseph. 742 00:30:54,423 --> 00:30:55,671 It's the ghost of a young boy 743 00:30:55,713 --> 00:30:57,586 who was murdered in the house. 744 00:30:57,627 --> 00:31:00,249 What is your name? 745 00:31:00,290 --> 00:31:03,494 [whispering] Joseph. 746 00:31:03,536 --> 00:31:07,322 George C. Scott understands that the specter of this child 747 00:31:07,364 --> 00:31:08,988 has something to communicate, 748 00:31:09,030 --> 00:31:10,985 and he's afraid of it, and he's afraid 749 00:31:11,027 --> 00:31:13,065 of what it will do, but he's also curious 750 00:31:13,107 --> 00:31:15,854 and wants to help it, because of his own loss. 751 00:31:15,895 --> 00:31:17,685 ♪♪ 752 00:31:17,727 --> 00:31:19,890 There's something about heartbreak and horror 753 00:31:19,932 --> 00:31:22,429 that go hand in hand. 754 00:31:22,470 --> 00:31:24,343 When you've lost a child, 755 00:31:24,385 --> 00:31:27,880 it's something so deep and so painful 756 00:31:27,921 --> 00:31:31,750 that it either closes you off completely, 757 00:31:31,792 --> 00:31:35,121 or it opens you up to other experience. 758 00:31:35,162 --> 00:31:37,159 What is it doing? Why is it trying to reach me? 759 00:31:37,201 --> 00:31:39,906 - John. - Is it because of my daughter? 760 00:31:39,948 --> 00:31:42,695 ♪♪ 761 00:31:42,736 --> 00:31:44,359 I can't go through all this again. 762 00:31:44,401 --> 00:31:47,313 I think a lot of ghost stories are about wrestling 763 00:31:47,355 --> 00:31:49,269 - with the idea of loss. - [sobbing] 764 00:31:49,311 --> 00:31:53,181 Trying to make sense of the death of loved ones 765 00:31:53,223 --> 00:31:55,387 and... and what that means. 766 00:31:55,428 --> 00:31:57,134 What happens to us when we're gone? 767 00:31:57,176 --> 00:32:00,630 If any of us were forced to linger behind, 768 00:32:00,672 --> 00:32:03,210 uh, on this plane, in the afterlife, 769 00:32:03,251 --> 00:32:06,122 it's probably because there's some unfinished business. 770 00:32:06,164 --> 00:32:08,620 [tense music] 771 00:32:08,662 --> 00:32:10,451 ♪♪ 772 00:32:10,492 --> 00:32:12,382 And "The Changeling" was the first time I got exposed 773 00:32:12,406 --> 00:32:14,695 to the idea that ghosts didn't just wanna scare 774 00:32:14,737 --> 00:32:16,960 the living [bleep] out of you like they did in "The Shining," 775 00:32:16,984 --> 00:32:18,981 but that they actually wanted help. 776 00:32:19,023 --> 00:32:21,020 They needed someone on the mortal plane 777 00:32:21,062 --> 00:32:22,352 to actually help them. 778 00:32:22,393 --> 00:32:25,598 What do you want from me? 779 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,387 I've done everything I can do. 780 00:32:27,429 --> 00:32:29,760 "The Changeling" is, not only is it a horror movie, 781 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,507 it's also, uh, a murder mystery. 782 00:32:31,548 --> 00:32:33,630 We wanna know what happened to this little boy. 783 00:32:33,671 --> 00:32:36,667 And it introduces, uh, sort of an element 784 00:32:36,709 --> 00:32:38,873 we've seen in a lot of ghost story movies since then, 785 00:32:38,915 --> 00:32:41,162 where the ghosts are reaching out to us 786 00:32:41,202 --> 00:32:44,449 to solve a mystery to help put their souls at rest. 787 00:32:44,490 --> 00:32:50,691 ♪♪ 788 00:32:52,023 --> 00:32:53,936 [coughing] 789 00:32:53,978 --> 00:32:55,809 And it's a kind of theme that we've seen 790 00:32:55,851 --> 00:32:57,807 in the films of Guillermo del Toro, 791 00:32:57,849 --> 00:33:01,219 where we really feel the pain of the ghost. 792 00:33:01,261 --> 00:33:04,340 Unlike "The Changeling," and many other ghost movies, 793 00:33:04,382 --> 00:33:07,919 del Toro lets you see his specters. 794 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,123 The ghost of a murdered child in "The Devil's Backbone" 795 00:33:11,164 --> 00:33:15,034 is one of the most disturbing figures ever put on film. 796 00:33:15,076 --> 00:33:16,883 Guillermo has this incredible, like, sense... 797 00:33:16,907 --> 00:33:18,822 uh, visual sense. 798 00:33:18,864 --> 00:33:21,818 [ominous music] 799 00:33:21,860 --> 00:33:23,191 ♪♪ 800 00:33:23,233 --> 00:33:26,312 Santi, the ghost, empty eyes, 801 00:33:26,354 --> 00:33:28,560 and the crack in... in his forehead. 802 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,055 Blood coming out of his forehead is shooting up. 803 00:33:32,096 --> 00:33:33,303 It's floating. 804 00:33:33,345 --> 00:33:36,091 Its physics abide by the laws of... 805 00:33:36,132 --> 00:33:39,379 of the conditions where he died. 806 00:33:39,420 --> 00:33:41,168 [groans, grunts] 807 00:33:41,210 --> 00:33:43,165 [grunts] 808 00:33:43,207 --> 00:33:44,705 ♪♪ 809 00:33:44,747 --> 00:33:47,285 Because he's... he's... he's actually drowned. 810 00:33:47,327 --> 00:33:54,193 ♪♪ 811 00:33:54,235 --> 00:33:55,816 [dramatic musical flourish] 812 00:33:55,857 --> 00:33:58,146 But del Toro's ultimate ghost movie 813 00:33:58,188 --> 00:34:01,392 is 2015's "Crimson Peak." 814 00:34:01,434 --> 00:34:04,014 When the time comes, 815 00:34:04,056 --> 00:34:07,842 - you'll hear of Crimson Peak. - [whimpering] 816 00:34:07,884 --> 00:34:09,341 By blending practical effects 817 00:34:09,381 --> 00:34:11,962 - with powerful new CGI... - [screams] 818 00:34:12,003 --> 00:34:15,333 He took Gothic horror to a level of visual artistry 819 00:34:15,374 --> 00:34:17,288 never seen before. 820 00:34:17,330 --> 00:34:20,409 [screeching, moaning] 821 00:34:20,451 --> 00:34:22,199 ♪♪ 822 00:34:22,240 --> 00:34:25,361 [crying] 823 00:34:25,403 --> 00:34:27,983 "Crimson Peak" was my fifth 824 00:34:28,025 --> 00:34:31,104 of my six movies with Guillermo del Toro. 825 00:34:31,146 --> 00:34:33,768 When he calls and says, "I want you to be in a film," 826 00:34:33,809 --> 00:34:35,474 I don't ask questions, I just say yes, 827 00:34:35,515 --> 00:34:36,990 and then I find out later what it's gonna be. 828 00:34:37,013 --> 00:34:38,570 [chuckles] 'Cause I trust him that much. 829 00:34:38,595 --> 00:34:39,926 - [screeching] - [gasps] 830 00:34:39,968 --> 00:34:41,758 [moaning] 831 00:34:41,799 --> 00:34:43,440 And then when I found out you're gonna be playing 832 00:34:43,464 --> 00:34:46,210 two of my... of my five ghost ladies in the movie, 833 00:34:46,251 --> 00:34:48,998 I'm like, "How's that, again?" 834 00:34:49,039 --> 00:34:52,868 "Crimson Peak" is about a young woman whose father dies 835 00:34:52,909 --> 00:34:54,450 early in the story. 836 00:34:54,491 --> 00:34:55,656 [grunts] 837 00:34:55,698 --> 00:34:57,320 [groans] 838 00:34:57,362 --> 00:34:59,693 Edith is met by a gentleman who says, 839 00:34:59,735 --> 00:35:01,857 Ah, I can... I can offer you a better life. 840 00:35:01,898 --> 00:35:03,770 Come with me to England. And so she comes 841 00:35:03,812 --> 00:35:06,309 with her dowry, with her inheritance. 842 00:35:06,351 --> 00:35:09,097 Once she signs the final papers, 843 00:35:09,139 --> 00:35:10,845 I want this over with. 844 00:35:10,886 --> 00:35:12,843 But the house that he takes her to 845 00:35:12,884 --> 00:35:14,840 is haunted by lots of ghost ladies 846 00:35:14,881 --> 00:35:17,919 who might be from a similar past. 847 00:35:17,961 --> 00:35:19,750 [growls softly] 848 00:35:19,792 --> 00:35:21,290 [gasps] 849 00:35:21,331 --> 00:35:23,038 And he might've done this before. 850 00:35:23,079 --> 00:35:25,160 What I love about "Crimson Peak" was 851 00:35:25,202 --> 00:35:27,157 that the ghosts weren't to be feared. 852 00:35:27,199 --> 00:35:29,987 The imagery might be a little off-putting at first, 853 00:35:30,029 --> 00:35:32,276 but they were there to heed warning 854 00:35:32,317 --> 00:35:34,481 and to help this... this woman who was still alive 855 00:35:34,523 --> 00:35:36,770 not to become one of them. 856 00:35:36,812 --> 00:35:38,518 [breathing heavily] 857 00:35:38,559 --> 00:35:40,890 His blood 858 00:35:40,932 --> 00:35:44,177 will be on your hands. 859 00:35:44,219 --> 00:35:46,548 [gasps, pants] 860 00:35:46,549 --> 00:35:48,880 Well, ghost stories are always about the way 861 00:35:48,922 --> 00:35:51,918 the past casts its long shadow on the present. 862 00:35:51,959 --> 00:35:53,707 [grunts, groans] 863 00:35:53,749 --> 00:35:56,079 [grunts] 864 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,034 Faulkner famously said, The past isn't over. 865 00:35:59,075 --> 00:36:01,322 It isn't even past. 866 00:36:01,364 --> 00:36:04,027 The big bloodstain of the past 867 00:36:04,069 --> 00:36:06,939 lying across the present. 868 00:36:06,981 --> 00:36:09,437 "Crimson Peaks" ghosts were victims 869 00:36:09,479 --> 00:36:11,143 of cold-blooded murder. 870 00:36:11,185 --> 00:36:13,140 [suspenseful music] 871 00:36:13,182 --> 00:36:16,137 So is the ghost in "The Ring." 872 00:36:16,178 --> 00:36:18,467 But this ghost doesn't wanna help you. 873 00:36:18,508 --> 00:36:20,173 [television buzzes, screeches] 874 00:36:20,214 --> 00:36:23,045 It's a serial killer from beyond the grave. 875 00:36:26,540 --> 00:36:28,222 Have you heard about this videotape that kills you 876 00:36:28,246 --> 00:36:30,327 when you watch it? 877 00:36:30,368 --> 00:36:33,198 - What kind of tape? - A tape. A regular tape. 878 00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:35,570 [suspenseful music] 879 00:36:35,612 --> 00:36:37,276 ♪♪ 880 00:36:37,318 --> 00:36:39,399 "The Ring" is about a videotape, 881 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:44,059 and if you watch it, within seven days you die. 882 00:36:44,101 --> 00:36:45,640 [television ringing] 883 00:36:45,682 --> 00:36:48,096 ♪♪ 884 00:36:48,138 --> 00:36:50,509 Naomi Watts plays a news reporter. 885 00:36:50,551 --> 00:36:53,672 And she's reporting on this story. 886 00:36:53,714 --> 00:36:55,628 Essentially, she comes across the film 887 00:36:55,669 --> 00:36:57,916 when doing her journalistic research. 888 00:36:57,958 --> 00:36:59,872 [phone rings] 889 00:36:59,914 --> 00:37:03,410 ♪♪ 890 00:37:03,451 --> 00:37:06,489 Seven days. 891 00:37:06,531 --> 00:37:09,111 And just brings a tape home 892 00:37:09,152 --> 00:37:11,857 and her... her son watches the tape. 893 00:37:11,898 --> 00:37:13,064 [television static whooshes] 894 00:37:13,106 --> 00:37:15,602 No! 895 00:37:15,644 --> 00:37:17,808 ♪♪ 896 00:37:17,849 --> 00:37:20,138 And so now it becomes also a story of... 897 00:37:20,180 --> 00:37:23,093 of not just a journalist trying to dig into the story 898 00:37:23,134 --> 00:37:26,005 and find its roots. It's a mother 899 00:37:26,047 --> 00:37:27,504 trying to save her son's life. 900 00:37:27,546 --> 00:37:30,458 ♪♪ 901 00:37:30,500 --> 00:37:32,955 And it has this natural time bomb structure. 902 00:37:32,996 --> 00:37:35,410 You see the video, you know you have seven days 903 00:37:35,452 --> 00:37:36,908 before you're gonna die. 904 00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:39,072 Your life is gonna decay around you, 905 00:37:39,113 --> 00:37:41,402 and steadily becoming more and more like a nightmare. 906 00:37:41,444 --> 00:37:43,442 ♪♪ 907 00:37:43,483 --> 00:37:46,396 [coughing] 908 00:37:46,438 --> 00:37:51,015 ♪♪ 909 00:37:51,057 --> 00:37:52,721 [coughs] 910 00:37:52,763 --> 00:37:54,802 And there's nothing you can do to stop it. 911 00:37:54,844 --> 00:37:56,592 You don't wanna hurt anyone. 912 00:37:56,633 --> 00:37:59,338 But I do, and I'm sorry. 913 00:37:59,379 --> 00:38:02,375 As Naomi Watts' character is digging in and digging in, 914 00:38:02,417 --> 00:38:04,373 you realize that this child 915 00:38:04,415 --> 00:38:05,954 is what you have to be worried about. 916 00:38:05,996 --> 00:38:07,369 She's the one that will haunt you, 917 00:38:07,411 --> 00:38:08,886 and she's the one that will come after you. 918 00:38:08,909 --> 00:38:10,656 ♪♪ 919 00:38:10,698 --> 00:38:13,029 Samara... 920 00:38:13,070 --> 00:38:14,776 "The Ring" is a remake 921 00:38:14,818 --> 00:38:17,482 of the haunting Japanese film "Ringu." 922 00:38:17,523 --> 00:38:19,396 [gasps] 923 00:38:19,437 --> 00:38:21,393 Though the plot is the same, 924 00:38:21,435 --> 00:38:24,431 you can see how differently Eastern and Western cultures 925 00:38:24,473 --> 00:38:26,179 tell ghost stories. 926 00:38:26,220 --> 00:38:28,509 There's a very specific approach to fear. 927 00:38:28,551 --> 00:38:30,382 The Japanese films, 928 00:38:30,423 --> 00:38:34,376 all you need is a pale face and long, black hair. 929 00:38:34,418 --> 00:38:38,496 It's iconic in a way that has been for years. 930 00:38:38,538 --> 00:38:43,157 There are icons that, uh, immediately induce 931 00:38:43,198 --> 00:38:46,611 shudders and goose bumps to a Japanese audience 932 00:38:46,652 --> 00:38:49,566 that would not necessarily to an American audience. 933 00:38:49,607 --> 00:38:51,813 ♪♪ 934 00:38:51,855 --> 00:38:53,768 [grunts] 935 00:38:53,810 --> 00:38:55,724 [horse groans] 936 00:38:55,766 --> 00:38:57,721 The U.S. version of "The Ring" 937 00:38:57,763 --> 00:39:00,635 grossed $249,000,000, 938 00:39:00,676 --> 00:39:03,922 ushering in a wave of Japanese ghost film remakes. 939 00:39:03,964 --> 00:39:07,334 - [screeches] - Ah! 940 00:39:07,376 --> 00:39:10,414 - [softly screeching] - [whimpering] 941 00:39:10,455 --> 00:39:13,410 [tense music] 942 00:39:13,451 --> 00:39:15,199 ♪♪ 943 00:39:15,241 --> 00:39:17,696 The dark, brooding Japanese horror style 944 00:39:17,738 --> 00:39:19,944 made its way into Hollywood films, 945 00:39:19,984 --> 00:39:22,524 like Andrew Douglas' 2005 remake 946 00:39:22,565 --> 00:39:24,271 of "The Amityville Horror." 947 00:39:24,313 --> 00:39:27,017 ♪♪ 948 00:39:27,059 --> 00:39:28,932 We're seeing a lot of Asian horror films 949 00:39:28,973 --> 00:39:30,763 - for the first time. - [whimpering] 950 00:39:30,764 --> 00:39:33,386 We're kind of influence by this new imagery. 951 00:39:33,426 --> 00:39:34,965 We hadn't seen it. 952 00:39:35,007 --> 00:39:36,589 [screams] 953 00:39:36,631 --> 00:39:38,877 The child twisted up, stuck to the roof 954 00:39:38,919 --> 00:39:42,290 is very much a kind of Asian horror image. 955 00:39:42,332 --> 00:39:44,204 ♪♪ 956 00:39:44,245 --> 00:39:46,576 But "The Ring" remains the most successful 957 00:39:46,618 --> 00:39:48,740 Japanese horror-inspired classic. 958 00:39:48,782 --> 00:39:51,362 Oh. [screams] 959 00:39:51,403 --> 00:39:54,399 Rachel! 960 00:39:54,441 --> 00:39:57,978 "The Ring" was, uh, one of those movies 961 00:39:58,020 --> 00:40:01,474 that had so many disturbing images. 962 00:40:01,515 --> 00:40:04,054 I just... I could not 963 00:40:04,095 --> 00:40:06,717 sleep for days 964 00:40:06,759 --> 00:40:10,379 after I saw that movie. 965 00:40:10,421 --> 00:40:14,540 And I watched a lot of TV, so whenever there would be 966 00:40:14,582 --> 00:40:17,037 static white noise kind of screen, 967 00:40:17,078 --> 00:40:19,576 I would... I just... I couldn't deal. 968 00:40:19,617 --> 00:40:21,573 Ah! 969 00:40:21,614 --> 00:40:23,903 It changed that whole image for me 970 00:40:23,945 --> 00:40:26,858 for the rest of my life, like, to this day, you know, 971 00:40:26,899 --> 00:40:29,937 I... I would probably still get a twinge of, like, 972 00:40:29,979 --> 00:40:31,352 Oh, [bleep]. 973 00:40:31,394 --> 00:40:33,724 Ah! 974 00:40:33,765 --> 00:40:36,637 This is about the fear of our own mortality, you know. 975 00:40:36,679 --> 00:40:40,257 About getting the diagnosis that you only have so long, 976 00:40:40,299 --> 00:40:42,088 and not being able to put the brakes on, 977 00:40:42,130 --> 00:40:44,460 not being able to bargain for more time. 978 00:40:44,502 --> 00:40:46,582 [suspenseful music] 979 00:40:46,624 --> 00:40:49,329 Ghosts mean different things in different religions 980 00:40:49,371 --> 00:40:52,117 and different cultures. Some ghosts are benevolent, 981 00:40:52,158 --> 00:40:54,656 some ghosts are malicious. 982 00:40:54,698 --> 00:40:57,194 But there's always that struggle. 983 00:40:57,236 --> 00:41:00,357 'Cause what... when someone dies, where do they go? 984 00:41:00,399 --> 00:41:02,645 ♪♪ 985 00:41:02,687 --> 00:41:05,933 I have a friend who says that 986 00:41:05,975 --> 00:41:08,845 the people she knows don't die. 987 00:41:08,887 --> 00:41:10,802 They just are on vacation. 988 00:41:10,843 --> 00:41:12,299 Where's Larry? 989 00:41:12,341 --> 00:41:14,339 Oh, he's in Rio de Janeiro on the beach. 990 00:41:14,381 --> 00:41:18,500 Because they just are here, and then they're not here. 991 00:41:18,541 --> 00:41:20,373 And that's why we create rituals, 992 00:41:20,414 --> 00:41:22,911 funerals, memorial services, to help us deal 993 00:41:22,953 --> 00:41:24,617 with the grief. 994 00:41:24,659 --> 00:41:28,030 And part of the grief is, Where the hell did they go? 995 00:41:28,072 --> 00:41:29,985 ♪♪ 996 00:41:30,027 --> 00:41:32,191 Movies help you. They're therapeutic. 997 00:41:32,233 --> 00:41:34,147 They deal with "where did they go"? 998 00:41:34,189 --> 00:41:37,143 ♪♪ 71769

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