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I'd come to this project with many of
the same assumptions that you have -
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concerning the Jersey double
murders and the guilt of Jim Suerd.
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His characterization is a troubled young
man, responsible for a spree of horrific,
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ritualistic homicides in the Pine
Barrens. The question in my mind was why?
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Why would a man commit such crimes?
After reviewing hours of archived footage
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generated by Steven Avkast and Locus
Wheeler, the hosts of Fact or Fiction,
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I've been forced to change my perspective.
the question now for me is what?
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What really happened that night
and is Jim Suerd truly responsible?
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Ironically, in the
course of this project,
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Jim Suerd has died in prison
under mysterious causes.
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His death will forever shroud
the reconciliation of this case.
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As they said on fact
or fiction, you decide.
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Nine-one-one, what
is your emergency?
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My name is Jim Stewart Suerd.
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I just hitchhiked here
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from from the middle of pine
barrens and I can't seem to get -
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I can't seem to find the people
that I was in the Pine Barrens with -
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And I was camping with them
last night doing a project
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Are you lost?
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I'm not lost. I'm just trying - I can't
find the people who drove me here and -
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I looked around for him and I went back
to the site where we had parked and they're
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not at the van and they're nowhere to be
found like I don't know where they are.
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Their vehicle is still there?
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The vehicle's still there and I had to
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hitchhike to this payphone.
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How far are you from
the vehicle right now?
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I'm about five five, somewhere you know
five-ten miles from it I don't know.
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Okay, Jim. We'll send someone out.
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Yeah it would be a good idea I
got a really bad feeling about it.
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You might want to send somebody
out quickly ever bad feeling...
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WBRK time it is five o'clock. It's time for
that afternoon drive that you love so much.
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Hey, guess who made missing reports?
It's those hosts from Fact or Fiction.
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Missing. Ha. Bob, you know those guys gonna be showing up
sometime in the next day saying, "Surprise did you miss us?"
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Let's go to the phones and
we'll ask you. Do you miss them?
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We have found bodies. At this
time we don't know who they are,
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or how many we have found.
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We cannot assume at this time that it is
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the Fact or Fiction crew.
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At this time, we have arrested Jim Suerd
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for the murders of Rein
Clackin and Locus Wheeler.
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Behind me is a house where Jim Suerd
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resided until his arrest
nearly seven months ago.
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Inside, amongst his dirty laundry, blood evidence was
found, linking him to the grisly Fact or Fiction murders.
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Today, Jim's own life hangs in the
balance as jurors decide his fate.
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I had heard of the
Factor or Fiction murders.
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They were big news for
a period of one year,
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and then like so many things
in today's fast-paced world,
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were forgotten.
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I was intrigued by how this case,
this story, was so well documented.
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How, in spite of the remote
location of the murders,
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and the rural nature of
the people prosecuting Jim,
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that these were murders
of a high tech age.
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I was intrigued by the fact that the four
individuals were indeed children of a digital age.
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Mostly though, I wondered why the man named Jim
Suerd would commit such horrendous acts of violence.
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This is Johnny,
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and Locus
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and we are live in the
Pine Barrens where tonight
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we are doing a first-ever, internet
broadcast, cable, ham radio - broadcast
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all live, all real
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and we are doing it with the
help of a psychic and a sound man.
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who has the ability to record sounds
from other worlds, otherworldly sounds.
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Yeah, that's right, Steven. We're here
in the Pine Barrens southern New Jersey
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live and direct, coming right at you
in your living room, first-ever web
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simulcast cable, cast and everybody is on
the edge of their seat and I know you are,
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because I am and I'm sure Steven is too.
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A little later we're gonna
be showing you the campsite,
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but right now we're gonna
do a little recapping,
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and you're gonna see some tape
of the history of the legend -
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of the Pine Barrens
and the Jersey Devil.
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They actually lived their
show, Fact or Fiction.
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Here's this real eerie
circumstances that come the play
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And they were actually
the victims of it.
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He had the opportunity.
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It appears as if he had the motive.
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He did lure those people up
there in a in a veil of secrecy.
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I would say yeah he fits the profile.
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Who was Jim Suerd?
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The answer proved more
difficult than I imagined.
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His mother had died four
months before the murders,
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His father, five years before.
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The only two people that I was able to
speak with that knew him personally were his
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landlady, Joyce Dryer and a childhood
psychologist named Dr. Dale Orstall.
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I was sort of a father figure to him, I
feel. Sort of a surrogate father, if you will.
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He didn't talk a whole
lot about his family life
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but one of the things I know
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is that his father left them when he was
very young, ran off with another woman.
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He had few friends if
any. Very reclusive.
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I remember him being quite a loner.
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He seemed to stay in his room
quite a bit when he wasn't at work.
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And the computer seemed to be
a highlight in his in his life.
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With the advent of the Internet,
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of course he got into that
years after I I was seeing him.
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It wasn't even available
I don't think at the time
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It opened up a whole new
world for a guy like Jim.
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Often he would be on
the internet with people
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and as we know the horrible situation that
has come up because of the internet fiasco,
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with him being blamed for these murders.
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The internet was the first interests that would
attach him to the Fact or Fiction television show.
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The second interest
was a bit more obscure.
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Jim had this fascination for magic.
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I mean a true fascination
- I mean he like I told you he was very reclusive
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so I believe he must have spent
countless hours in his room alone
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working on tricks.
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And he used to come in and
start the sessions and he had to
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show me a new trick and often was a
simple card trick but very quickly he
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built skills and became
very proficient in magic.
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The internet and magic
- both interests generally considered harmless.
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Both interests that could
have a sinister edge to them.
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Either way, it was a combination that virtually sealed
his fate in meeting Steven Avkast and Locus Wheeler,
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The hosts of Fact or Fiction.
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Welcome to Fact or Fiction.
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Welcome to Fact or Fiction. Yes we are
rolling. We are on we are ready to go.
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Locus you joker, you knew
it all along that we were on.
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Yeah welcome to our new show, well actually
it's not a new show, it's got a new name.
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Thanks to everybody out there who
helped us come up with this great name,
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Fact or Fiction
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That's right.
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Fact or Fiction was one of those fluke successes
that no television producer would ever predict.
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Short on production value,
talent and execution,
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It maintained a following of youth probably more
amused by its Kitsch value than anything else.
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Steven Avkast, the creator of
Fact or Fiction is remembered.
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Steven... I always got bad bad vibes about Steven,
you know he always came in here with this you
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know attitude that you know he always
doing is making a little cable show.
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I mean, nobody ever goes anywhere
with this stuff. But he had this idea
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he was destined for stardom
and was gonna be rich, you know
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millions of dollars and you know he
basically had that that big you know
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director stereotype that you think
of you, know, you think of the big
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Hollywood directors and I mean he
really just had to put it in perspective.
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Steven's longtime friend, Locus
Wheeler, was the co-host of the show.
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Their pairing was like oil and water.
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Locus, I think,
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he and Steven were having problems getting
along sometimes but I think I I think
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Locus, he knew what he was doing. I mean
with this he knew it was just a little
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cable show and I think he
was just in it for the fun.
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Somehow, Steven, a misguided egomaniac
and Locus, a sardonic slacker,
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managed to keep turning out
shows for the better part of 1995.
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The ideas were slim.
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However, they did latch onto
one idea that intrigued many.
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We're also doing something new. We are on IRC
tonight. and we have joined... IRC is in the house.
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You can say that, I'm
saying it's swingin'
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Well I'll have to say one
idea they came up with,
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it was actually
- well at first it was pretty cool but it got to be pretty freaky too...
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They came up with this idea, you know
how most TV shows will have like call ins.
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where people call in the phone and talk
- well, they tie this into the internet
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through IRC chat, except, so
people could like, you know
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ask questions on the show - but they rigged
up some sort of text-to-speech converter so
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like whatever they typed in was actually
set on the show like it was a voice.
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It was this idea that provided the impetus for what
would ironically give Steven the fame he so craved.
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By the fall of 1995, the one joke
television show was losing popularity.
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By November, the show was
about to self-destruct.
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Everybody had this sense.
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Once again, Steven in his delinquency
and procrastination has made it
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so we are too late to
find the snow angel.
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At this desperate time, Steven
turned to viewer suggestions,
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one of which would
take hold in his mind.
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It provided the seedling with which Steven
hoped to rebuild the show's popularity.
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you know we had a call we have an IRC
come in and it's real eerie voice I mean
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it drove me nuts. I almost couldn't
stand this after a while because just
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hearing this voice like "hello,
why don't you do a piece on..."
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Why don't you do a show
about the Jersey Devil?
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Steven's idea was to do a first-ever
live broadcast of Fact or Fiction.
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It would be broadcast simultaneously
to cable television and the Internet.
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The promotion's began immediately.
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And with ratings dropping
in an ever-increasing speed,
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The concept was implemented immediately.
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This Jersey Devil cablecast, I knew it wasn't gonna work. I
mean these guys couldn't even make a halfway decent TV Show.
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Suddenly they want to jump into doing you
know big time live from the Pine Barrens
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and have radio and Internet
and this and that and,
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I knew it was gonna be fiasco. I didn't
really think was gonna end up like it did but -
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I knew it wasn't gonna look pretty.
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Since the show was going to
air from a remote location,
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Steven hastily looked
for people who help.
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A former employer of his,
Sam woods, was approached.
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This is the room of Sam
woods. I used to cut his grass.
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He's a filmmaker
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and he used to do soap operas and
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we're gonna ask him if he
wants to direct the show...
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Because I think he'd be perfect and he's
a name and that would that good for us.
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So I've had to talk to Locus and try to
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convince him about but he's going for it... and
here they come so, I'm going to turn it down.
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Steven... that's right.
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And I'm Locus. Nice to meet you.
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Well they say that up to up to 50,000 people
could possibly be watching at any time,
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but they don't know exactly how many but
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but we're selling lots of t-shirts.
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So that's a good sign I think.
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Anyway we have this idea we want
to taking this like direction
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where it's gonna become much bigger
and it'll be really cool if you
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could you know help us out; if you could
direct the show. I know that you used to
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direct soap operas.
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Network soaps.
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This union of cable access show and former
Network soap director never made sense to anyone.
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Though it was later discovered that
Steven was paying Sam out of his own pocket
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in an act of desperation
to save Fact or Fiction.
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We're in business
yeah... yeah this is cool.
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Sam Woods, a once successful
television soap director
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became one of the people I would
question about these events.
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In stark contrast to his work,
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meeting him was another road sign
on my travel into a surreal world.
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Well, this devil hunt
thing never appealed to me.
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We're getting into a pretty
flaky area there, you know?
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I think the kids were they were
asking for it with that one.
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Not the kind of not the kind of
work I do, you know what I mean?
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Not what I do.
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For the internet end,
Jay McDowell was enlisted.
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Well, they came to me with a
seedling idea they said you know
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we want it we want to use some of this
technology you've been using for teleconferencing
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for video conferencing and we want to, you
know, we want to turn this into a broadcasting.
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They had heard some talk about it they
had seen some sites that were trying to
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do some stuff like that, so they wanted
something like that they wanted to do it
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a live a live thing rather than like,
you know, streaming canned video.
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They wanted to actually broadcast
and compress it all live.
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So they basically just came to me with that seedling
of an idea and I had to figure out, you know,
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the technical aspects of how to
make it happen, and make it real and
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you know, kind of the packaging for it what
it was really gonna be in the final product.
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Steven and Locus decided that they needed
additional help at the actual location.
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They searched vaguely for
a sound man and a guide
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and on December 7,
1995, worlds collided.
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Okay, we're at Rein's and we've come today to
meet him in hopes that he'll be able to help us
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out on our trip to the Pine Barrens.
Basically Rein is an audio whiz and
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supposeBly he's been able to document
- supposeDly he's been able to document
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you know paranormal occurrences on tape.
So that's what we're gonna see today.
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We're also going to be meeting
Jim, who does some psychic things
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And we'll see, you know. Hopefully these guys
will fit the bill and we'll be able to go down to
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the Pine Barrens with them, you
know. Could use the extra help.
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Is that good? yeah you got enough?
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I hope this damn mic
works. You ready? okay.
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Remember, play it cool. Play it cool.
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is this gonna blow us
this airplane sound?
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Come one.
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Steven, this is Rein.
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right yeah I'm, I'm Locus. Locus?
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So you just taped us?
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Yeah, I guess so accidentally.
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So do you have a surveillance setup?
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Well, for the time being I did.
This used to be a sound studio.
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I think maybe Jim has arrived now.
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hey man, you seem to have
pre-deterrmined that we met.
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hold on hey hey yeah Jim what's up?
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how are you?
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Doing pretty good.
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Lotus.
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um... Locus.
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How are you? I'm Jim.
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It was inevitable that this combination of the
internet, a television show about paranormal happenings,
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and similar ages, would draw
Jim Suerd to Fact or Fiction.
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so just to give some, a little background,
you know basically we're going to be doing this
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webcast, cablecast in the in search
of the Jersey Devil, the Leeds devil,
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down in the Pine Barrens. And basically
why we've gotten you guys together here is
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because you have skills regarding audio
and paranormal activity so we're hoping
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that you can help us in that way,
and you have these psychic abilities.
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Psychic abilities, I feel that I can I can really
help out. I understand what you're trying to do and
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I really think that I can help out.
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You can help us find
help us find a location.
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you can help us tap
into whatever we need.
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I can pinpoint that location.
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Jim came to me one day and told me how
excited he was that he had met these
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people over the Internet. It
was some show, Fact or Fiction,
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and he was to be their
guide in the Pine Barrens
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and what really amazed
me, I just didn't think
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he knew or had any knowledge of the Pine
Barrens to be able to even be a guide.
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But he seemed so excited about it.
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This... is this good?
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Do you want to hold them up or do you
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Just like this.
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Six Spade.
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Seven Spade.
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Four Spade.
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Five Spade
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Eight Club.
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Eight Diamond.
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I saw him probably about two or
three weeks before the incident.
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I ran into him at a shopping mall.
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And he was very excited about his life.
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He said he was studying acting.
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His magic was coming together.
People were appreciating it.
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combined with the acting, I guess he did
a few gigs on a small level but it was
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it was going very very well.
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Give him more ashes.
Give him more ashes.
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There's something on his arm.
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What does this mean?
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I don't know
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Back off. Back off.
Are you recording this?
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Was Jim psychic?
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It was not likely.
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The card demonstration,
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and the supposed psychic fit, in
which numbers appeared on his arm,
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were nothing more than simple tricks.
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Known to any amateur magician.
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To Steven and Locus, Rein Clackin and Jim
Suerd were perfect for Fact or Fiction.
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Youthful, eager and strange.
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On December 15th 1995, Steve Avkast,
Lous Wheeler, Rein Clackin and Jim Suerd
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headed for the Pine Barrens of
New Jersey to do a live broadcast
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in search of the Jersey Devil.
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Jim Suerd would be
the only one to return.
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nine-one-one what
is your emergency?
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My name is Jim Suerd and I just hitchhiked
here from the middle of Pine Barrens.
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and I can't seem to get
- I can't seem to find the people that I was in the Pine Barrens with
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with an us camping with him
last night doing a project.
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Are you lost?
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I'm not I'm not lost I'm just trying to
I can't find the people who drove me here.
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and you know I looked around for them
and I went back to the site where we
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had parked and they're not at the van
and they're nowhere to be found like I
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don't know where they are.
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Their vehicle is still there?
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The vehicle is still there.
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and I had to hitchhike to this payphone.
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How far are you from
the vehicle right now?
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I'm about five five, somewhere, you know
- five ten miles from it. I don't know.
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Okay Jim, we'll send someone out.
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After mr. Suerd made the call, we went to the area
that he specified and did a preliminary look around,
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under a missing-persons investigation.
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I mean I just figured that was one of the little stints
to do just to try to get that extra sensationalism.
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so I I didn't think
anything of it at first.
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You know I kind of expected
them to try something like that.
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We have a 187. Repeat, we have a 187.
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This isn't a missing
person's report anymore.
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912?
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We're clear. Do you
need emergency support?
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No. This guy's definitely DOA.
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One body we found approximately
2.5 miles from the campsite.
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The other body, we found approximately
three miles from the campsite.
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The body of Steven
Avkast was never found.
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Large amounts of blood in the snow and a hat
were all that remained of this third victim.
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In any murder investigation, anybody
associated with the victims is a suspect.
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our job is to eliminate suspects based
on the evidence that we sift through and
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that we gather, and as we sifted through
and gathered this evidence there was
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only one suspect left at the
end and that was mr. Jim Suerd.
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Who led everybody to the site?
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I did.
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Did anybody else know where you
were going to set up and camp?
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Well, I was asked to uh,
to find a place to camp.
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And I thought that I was doing a good job
at it and Rein continued to provoke me and uh
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and then give me a hard time about
my ability to locate the place
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that we would camp and ultimately just good led
to an argument and I ran away from the group.
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Did you hit him first?
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I don't know, I might have pushed him.
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Sometimes I can't
remember if I, you know.
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I ran away from group and I found the spot I
thought would be good to locate the Jersey Devil.
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After we got the permission from
the state of Pennsylvania to search
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Mr. Suerd's residence, we went to his
residence and we did conduct a search
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for anything that we felt would help
us in this case and we did find the
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garments that mr. Suerd
was wearing that night,
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with the blood of the
three victims on it.
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Interestingly, the garments that
mr. Suerd was wearing were merely
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lying right on his bedroom floor, along
with the other dirty laundry that was there.
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Even as Jim was arrested, the evidence
continued to mount against him.
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We could tell that the nature of the
blows with the weapons that were used
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were consistent with the
size and build of the accused.
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In this case it was very clear that the attacker was
using both hands with two weapons and was ambidextrous.
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And the suspect in this case is
ambidextrous, which is quite rare.
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He was the only survivor in
the place where nobody else was.
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It doesn't look that good for him.
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Ladies and gentlemen of the jury,
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we will show that on December 15th 1995,
Jim Suerd maliciously and with premeditation
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killed Rein Clackin and Locus Wheeler.
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We will show, without doubt, how he
planned this well in advance of that day.
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We will show, with video shot by the deceased, that
Jim Suerd was, and is, a devious and cunning person.
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using the guise of psychic to
perpetrate these horrible acts.
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The proceedings that summer turned out to be one of
the greatest spectacles of Baroake County history.
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The trial attracted a strange
assemblage of cult followers,
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ritual homicide fanatics and others
seeking to satisfy their morbid curiosity.
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Eventually, it became a matter of
trying to keep the tabloid at bay.
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An effort which was
not entirely successful.
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When the court case came up,
the media frenzy was hysterical.
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I felt like they were you -- somebody
was watching me like every minute.
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They were talking to everybody, everybody who
had the slightest thing to do with the show.
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Who knows, they probably talked to every
single viewer that said they watched the show.
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Reporters day in and day out and police
here just taking everything they could;
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anything it was every videotape every
prop, and I mean it was ridiculous.
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I don't know what they were looking for, all
they were getting was a bunch of bad television.
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In an election year, what the prosecution
was looking for was an open and shut case.
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And in the state of New Jersey
versus Jim Suerd, they found it.
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Not content to leave any stone unturned
they decided to utilize the very video that
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Steven Avkast and
Locus Wheeler had shot.
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The man, who would later by the press come to be known
as the killer cutter, was hired to go through this video.
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and put together an
incriminating image of Jim Suerd.
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The prosecution contacted
me in early January 1996.
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They had a pretty good case against
him, it seemed to me from what I saw.
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They had blood evidence, they'd found the
blood and you know this was the only guy there.
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And he was the only one
that knew where it was.
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But they wanted to clinch this case.
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They didn't want, they
really wanted to get him.
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They didn't want any there to be
any question that he had done it.
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So they can't that came to me with all
this videotape, like 15 hours of videotape.
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And this was video that these guys who
did this cable show had shot on location.
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I'd never really edited anything
like I mean I'd never seen
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anything like this before, I mean this
was like video from the crime scene.
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And normally, you know, I've got,
you know, hours and hours of people
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talking heads like, you know in
some room somewhere badly shot.
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This was badly shot but at least
it was out in the woods, you know.
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It was different.
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The prosecution's video
was intended to show facts.
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Perhaps, not inadvertently, it also
created an intimacy with the murdered three,
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that the defense was unhappy with.
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They protested it, deeming it an
unfair swaying towards a guilty verdict.
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This was not enough reason for the video
to be struck down and so it was used.
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The first point demonstrated that Jim was indeed leading
the group into very remote regions of the Pine Barrens.
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Areas where there was no hope for
help or aid from the civilized world.
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the following represents excerpts
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from the first section
of the prosecution video.
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Over 54 minutes of video showing the for
wandering deeper into the pines was shot.
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It is estimated that the four walked for more than two hours
before Jim finally decided upon the location of their operations.
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Hey guys he's starting to go to
go. Let's get the stuff together.
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so what's the deal Jim?
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Something's come right through here.
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When Jim finally found the perfect
location, it was more than three miles
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from their van and the
nearest access road.
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The second point was to make evident a
defendant who had an agenda an agenda.
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An agenda warped enough
to commit these murders.
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I've been contacting the
supernatural world for the last week.
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last couple days I've been in contact getting
my spiritual self together this journey.
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we've we've put put ourselves out on and
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we are headed in the right
direction, I can assure you.
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I can feel it. It's a gut
instinct in my body that -
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we're going to find the Leeds devil -
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and we're going to settle
this case, once and for all.
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I feel that know what I'm doing here
and for you is perfectly authentic.
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I have a feeling inside it's
it's a definite feeling -
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we are at a place where with the
Jersey Devil. We will encounter
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The Jersey Devil.
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I know we're headed
in the right direction.
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Repeated phrases such as, "we're going
to settle this thing once and for all"
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and "I know we're headed
in the right direction",
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seemed to clearly show Jim's agenda.
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It didn't take much to
read into these phrases,
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and see an individual with a plan that was to
be carried out in the desolate Pine Barrens.
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As the prosecution's video progressed,
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Jim's personality changed...
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from a quiet and shy person,
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to one that presented the
prosecution with an opportunity
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to show the violent nature
just below the surface.
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Look man,
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I'll see you back at camp, man!
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I don't know what Jim's doing.
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I think he's talking
about burning something.
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An agenda proven, and a
potential violent streak proven,
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the prosecution solidified their first-degree murder
case against Suerd with video taken in the barn.
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Video in which the original date
of the trip appeared on Suerd's arm.
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The defense attempted to have
this also struck from the records,
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claiming the video of Suerd to be
that of a character he was playing.
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The prosecution countered by agreeing fully with
this assessment of Suerd and the events in the barn.
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events that had taken place a
full two weeks before the trip;
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the best argument for
premeditated murder.
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The trip began at sunrise.
446
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,805
Steven ran a videocamera
much of the time,
447
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:13,440
documenting what should have been
amusing but banal preparation.
448
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,640
Locus, do you wanna do a blurb about?
449
00:35:20,675 --> 00:35:22,640
Yeah, I'll do it.
450
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,600
yeah but I'm getting light...
the backlight's killing your face.
451
00:35:26,635 --> 00:35:29,997
What do you mean the
backlight's killing my face?
452
00:35:30,032 --> 00:35:33,360
Why don't you adjust it?
What do you mean you can't?
453
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:41,280
okay you ready? Okay, we're here
at Rein's barn, and we're getting...
454
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:46,760
Come on, I'm trying to
get at this on camera...
455
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:56,400
The trip, guided by Jim, took them into
the loneliest of areas on a lonely cold
456
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,325
Here's to you, Steven.
457
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,325
A stop at a gas station was
the last obvious landmark,
458
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:06,320
before they moved into the
unidentifiable roads of the Pine Barrens.
459
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,640
at a certain point, at Jim's request,
460
00:36:10,675 --> 00:36:12,960
they stopped, parked and started
461
00:36:12,995 --> 00:36:14,005
walking into the woods.
462
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:18,640
following the psychic visions of Suerd.
463
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,840
He's gonna do it this is part of the show
we gotta do it in a place he thinks is right.
464
00:36:23,875 --> 00:36:26,005
Because if we're gonna find something
465
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,160
yeah we could fake it,
but I don't go for that.
466
00:36:27,195 --> 00:36:29,765
I think we should go for real
467
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:34,960
and he's off doing his thing
that's why we got him here.
468
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,120
We knew this would be it. We knew, we all talked
about. We knew we were going to be way out here.
469
00:36:41,155 --> 00:36:44,480
Here he comes. Let's see what he says.
470
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,760
Where did you get this guy from anyway?
471
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,360
Psychics R US?
472
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,960
I think this is a pretty good idea.
473
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,200
Us waiting around and then him finding the spot
you know and then taking the stuff over to it.
474
00:37:03,235 --> 00:37:07,805
Yeah we still gonna go back
to the car and get stuff, man.
475
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,525
I don't think he even knows that.
Is he volunteering? I don't think so.
476
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,600
Well, I know he's not carrying too much.
But you know what he said about that...
477
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,640
it's a vibe thing.
478
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,880
Tensions increases as they work further
479
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:28,160
into the forsaken Pines. And then a key
point in the prosecution video arrives.
480
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:35,160
Jim... are you a psychic or a psycho?
481
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:42,400
Look man! I'll see you back at camp!
482
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:49,680
Approximately one hour later, judging
from the Sun, a camp is being built.
483
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,520
Discussions are already
being had about Suerd.
484
00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:55,220
Suerd is not helping.
485
00:37:55,255 --> 00:37:57,200
He's keeping to himself.
486
00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:02,869
For the next two hours, the video of the
group is a collection of promotions for
487
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,770
future cable shows; the camera
frequently left on between takes.
488
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,080
This is Locus reporting from the
Pine Barrens and I'm with Rein.
489
00:38:11,115 --> 00:38:14,320
our sound man. Gee,
Rein I'm pretty parched.
490
00:38:14,700 --> 00:38:15,260
I sure am, too.
491
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,880
Wow is that is that mulberry
492
00:38:17,915 --> 00:38:19,533
natural spring water?
493
00:38:19,568 --> 00:38:21,151
Yes from Mueller's.
494
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,640
Wow, how about
- I wish I could have a
495
00:38:23,675 --> 00:38:26,105
sparkling glass of that.
496
00:38:26,140 --> 00:38:28,780
Boy I'm telling you and in a gallon jar.
497
00:38:28,815 --> 00:38:29,685
Jug
498
00:38:29,720 --> 00:38:30,720
the mood is good.
499
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:31,920
Let's do that again.
500
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:37,300
Jim does not join them, instead
staying in the tent on IRC.
501
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:46,640
I don't really feel like I'm being taken
very seriously, by really any of you.
502
00:38:47,100 --> 00:38:51,660
I'm taking you seriously.
We set up here you know.
503
00:38:52,980 --> 00:38:56,585
I'm doing what what I do and
504
00:38:56,620 --> 00:38:59,060
I don't appreciate being laughed at.
505
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,340
Well it's just a stress thing.
506
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:09,800
Look we're gonna be going on in a bit.
You gonna come out for the broadcast?
507
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:17,340
I think that I'll probably stay in here
508
00:39:19,660 --> 00:39:22,080
Stay on IRC
509
00:39:24,380 --> 00:39:28,020
At 10 p.m. in what will
be the last broadcast,
510
00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:30,800
Fact or Fiction goes live.
511
00:39:31,460 --> 00:39:33,200
This is Johnny
512
00:39:33,235 --> 00:39:34,260
and Locus
513
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:43,160
and we are live in the Pine Barrens where tonight we
are doing a first ever, internet broadcast, cable...
514
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:52,530
Jim has been on IRC for
two hours and 30 minutes.
515
00:39:52,565 --> 00:39:56,740
A surveillance camera
records the camp to VHS tape.
516
00:39:56,775 --> 00:40:00,205
It runs for 2 hours before shutting off.
517
00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:07,000
At 1:00 a.m. the last tape in the series of
22 tapes shot by Locus Wheeler and Rein Clackin
518
00:40:07,035 --> 00:40:09,200
reaches its end.
519
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,380
Man, this thing's still on.
What the hell's going on?
520
00:40:16,700 --> 00:40:19,420
Oh, I must have left it
on. we should change tapes.
521
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,940
Did you change tapes? Here,
I'm gonna change tapes in this.
522
00:40:21,975 --> 00:40:26,260
There is no indication
that this is done.
523
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,220
No other footage exists.
524
00:40:48,700 --> 00:40:53,300
The tape show a group of men going
through a wide range of emotions.
525
00:40:53,335 --> 00:40:56,640
seemingly enjoying their
jaunt into the pine barrens.
526
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:04,620
The tape shows the brooding nature of one
man who does not share in the frivolity.
527
00:41:04,980 --> 00:41:10,760
The tapes do make clear the
maladjusted nature of Jim Suerd.
528
00:41:12,460 --> 00:41:16,540
Though Suerd maintained his
innocence, the facts were indisputable.
529
00:41:17,820 --> 00:41:21,200
Four people went into the Pine
Barrens, only Jim returned.
530
00:41:21,235 --> 00:41:24,360
Blood of all three was
found on on Jim's shirt.
531
00:41:24,660 --> 00:41:27,360
Pushing Rein showed a
potential violent streak.
532
00:41:27,720 --> 00:41:32,910
The angle and depth of the cuts and lacerations
matched somebody of his height and weight
533
00:41:32,945 --> 00:41:36,239
and more importantly
ambidextrous nature.
534
00:41:36,274 --> 00:41:38,660
the number, which closely matched
535
00:41:38,669 --> 00:41:42,119
the date of the murders appearing
through ashes on his arm, was deemed to
536
00:41:42,154 --> 00:41:44,385
be a good case for premeditated murder.
537
00:41:44,420 --> 00:41:48,220
The tape showing the four walking
further and further into the woods,
538
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,660
virtually guaranteed a
seclusion from civilization;
539
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,559
civilization that would
make the killing easier.
540
00:41:54,594 --> 00:41:56,874
the defense's one victory was
541
00:41:56,909 --> 00:42:01,140
getting a third charge of murder,
the murder of Steven Avkast, dropped.
542
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,460
Though a body is not necessarily
needed to prove a murder,
543
00:42:05,700 --> 00:42:09,360
the prosecution had more than enough
evidence with the two bodies that were found.
544
00:42:10,100 --> 00:42:13,945
on July 16th 1996
545
00:42:13,980 --> 00:42:18,760
Jim Suerd was found guilty on
two counts of first degree murder.
546
00:42:18,795 --> 00:42:23,540
He was sentenced to two life
terms to be served consecutively.
547
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:39,440
Went out with little Sadie and I shot it down, come back
home, crawled into bed with a.44 pistol under my head.
548
00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:45,800
I think the whole trial was a
kangaroo court of sorts, a pig circus.
549
00:42:46,460 --> 00:42:50,680
I mean it's there the police
obviously didn't do their homework.
550
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:55,400
They're not investigating
to the best of their ability,
551
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,760
because there has to be -
552
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:07,200
There has to be some evidence indicating
somebody else or something else.
553
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,360
The case they built up against
him, it was all circumstantial.
554
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,960
They didn't have any actual evidence that he
did this but I mean he was the only one there.
555
00:43:20,995 --> 00:43:22,987
They really had no one else to go on.
556
00:43:23,022 --> 00:43:24,945
I don't consider having the blood of
557
00:43:24,980 --> 00:43:27,705
victims all over your
clothes as circumstantial.
558
00:43:27,740 --> 00:43:30,590
I mean that's pretty hard evidence as
far as I'm concerned. You don't get blood
559
00:43:30,625 --> 00:43:35,955
on your clothes from a murder
victim, you know, just out of the air.
560
00:43:35,990 --> 00:43:40,580
I mean, you have to be there conducting those
murders to get that blood on your clothes.
561
00:43:40,615 --> 00:43:45,000
I don't consider that
circumstantial in the least.
562
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:51,120
and I can't explain
that I can't explain why
563
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,520
there would be blood on my shirt.
564
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:55,980
would you agree that it looks bad?
565
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:56,780
Excuse me?
566
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,560
Would you agree that things don't
look very good for you right now?
567
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:05,640
I don't, I don't the way that you're telling
me it doesn't look that good for me but I
568
00:44:05,675 --> 00:44:08,771
can't understand where
this evidence came from.
569
00:44:08,780 --> 00:44:13,420
The evidence of blood on Jim's shirt
was a strong point for the prosecution.
570
00:44:14,060 --> 00:44:15,585
DNA tests showed
571
00:44:15,620 --> 00:44:20,500
indisputably that it was the blood of the
three that had gone into the woods with Suerd.
572
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:25,160
As I look at the images of DNA patterns
and pools of blood, I wonder though
573
00:44:25,500 --> 00:44:30,960
if perhaps the jury anxious not to ignore
DNA evidence as it happened in other trials.
574
00:44:30,995 --> 00:44:35,045
perhaps looked too closely.
575
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:40,402
Through the magnifying glass of the
prosecution's microscope, the evidence was solid.
576
00:44:40,437 --> 00:44:43,860
However a macroscopic view
begged another question.
577
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,945
Could the master of this
orgy of violence have walked
578
00:44:46,980 --> 00:44:51,840
away from his work with merely the equivalent
of 17 I drops of blood on his shirt...
579
00:44:52,020 --> 00:44:53,340
and nothing else?
580
00:44:54,060 --> 00:44:56,660
you know, every piece of
evidence they would get
581
00:44:56,670 --> 00:45:00,925
they'd try to tie it
somehow, instead of thinking
582
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:05,010
okay well gee, does this have
anything to do with something else
583
00:45:05,045 --> 00:45:07,200
would always take a
piece of evidence and go -
584
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,950
well gee how could Jimmy have used this?
585
00:45:09,985 --> 00:45:12,420
and it's kind of like,
after a while, it's
586
00:45:12,700 --> 00:45:15,680
like building up a house of cards
587
00:45:15,690 --> 00:45:20,490
they just kept building up building up
and eventually they had enough built up
588
00:45:20,525 --> 00:45:22,600
to get a case against him.
589
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,460
I wasn't really monitoring
there conduct outside of camp.
590
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:29,480
I was doing my thing.
591
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:30,360
what were you doing?
592
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:31,680
I was on the IRC.
593
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:32,680
In the tent?
594
00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:33,300
Yeah.
595
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:34,260
All night?
596
00:45:34,500 --> 00:45:35,000
all night
597
00:45:35,340 --> 00:45:37,640
About what time did you start on IRC?
598
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,300
Probably around that 8:30
599
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,880
When we we've interviewed
some of the individuals
600
00:45:48,100 --> 00:45:53,099
that mr. Suerd claimed to have been
talking with on IRC that evening,
601
00:45:53,100 --> 00:45:59,245
and we've looked at their logs as well, too
- their
602
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,600
their uh their chat logs from
their from their computers,
603
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,365
and we have determined
604
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:12,960
that there was about a 45 minute gap
between when mr. Suerd made one comment
605
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:14,925
to when he made the next comment.
606
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:19,100
and 45 minutes is an
awfully long time to not
607
00:46:19,109 --> 00:46:22,185
be responding to other
people on the Internet.
608
00:46:22,220 --> 00:46:26,780
They say this the the signal
signal dropped out so you know Jim
609
00:46:26,815 --> 00:46:31,340
could have walked away and I
guess that that is possible...
610
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,219
It is possible, yes.
611
00:46:33,254 --> 00:46:38,339
You don't necessarily have to
be a world-class sprint runner -
612
00:46:38,340 --> 00:46:42,680
to cover that that amount
of ground in 45 minutes.
613
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:20,720
In a way I have to raise doubts of this
one guy doing all that to these bodies.
614
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:30,285
The the murdered pair, they
were darlings of the media.
615
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:35,400
It was one of the reasons they jumped on this
whole thing so quickly and had to come up with
616
00:47:35,435 --> 00:47:41,080
a conclusion of what happened was
just that: it was their very own.
617
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:47,040
As professionals in law enforcement, we do
not feel the pressure from outside sources,
618
00:47:47,075 --> 00:47:51,560
be at the media or otherwise
to conduct our investigations.
619
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:56,080
We conduct them to to the best
of our ability at all times.
620
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:01,880
There were no other suspects to
apprehend or to interview or to consider.
621
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,600
All the evidence pointed that
Mr. Suerd was the only suspect
622
00:48:06,635 --> 00:48:09,605
and therefore all we
had to do was gather
623
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:18,360
the evidence to prove mr. Suerd's guilt. We did not
have to gather evidence to gather other suspects.
624
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:30,880
On January 2nd, 1997, an event occurred that forced
me to rethink the making of this documentary -
625
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,920
the very thesis with which
I had begun the journey.
626
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:41,400
Jim Suerd was found dead in
his jail of undetermined causes.
627
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:48,480
On January 3rd, a package arrived at
my door which I think in no way was
628
00:48:48,515 --> 00:48:50,640
coincidental with the
death of Jim Suerd.
629
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:11,240
The acquiring of mysterious video tape has changed
the mood behind the making of this documentary.
630
00:49:11,260 --> 00:49:14,480
Gone is the attempt to pure
objectivity with which we started.
631
00:49:14,515 --> 00:49:17,200
Now we question, who gave us this tape?
632
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:21,440
And more importantly, what, if
any information, does it hold
633
00:49:21,460 --> 00:49:23,685
that was never brought up in the trial?
634
00:49:23,720 --> 00:49:28,485
Going to the authorities with this
new tape is pondered but rejected.
635
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:33,440
To them the case is closed and with
Jim's death, appeals are a moot point.
636
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,280
Nothing is ruled out.
The tape could be a hoax.
637
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,845
I am conscious of one thing though.
638
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,600
My search for the truth behind
the Fact or Fiction murders
639
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,360
has in some way become
part of the story.
640
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,000
There was this discussion
on the last tape that
641
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:57,080
they were going to change tapes. But
whether that ever happened or not...
642
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,640
I don't know.
643
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:05,900
I didn't see any other tapes
and from what I saw of the camera
644
00:50:05,935 --> 00:50:10,800
it was pretty damaged. So if
there was any tape in there...
645
00:50:10,835 --> 00:50:14,840
I doubt that it ever could be played.
646
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,480
My name is Michele Monarch.
647
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,679
I'm a magnetic media
data recovery specialist.
648
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:31,400
The particular videotape that I was given
was mangled almost beyond recognition.
649
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,085
I digitized sections of
this particular video,
650
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:42,200
placed it into the computer and am now
reconstructing the actual picture frame by frame.
651
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,720
and I have to guide the computer
to complete these pictures
652
00:50:46,755 --> 00:50:50,725
there was some that were
easily captured by the computer.
653
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:55,560
Others were unrecognizable, and I'm
rebuilding them now at this time.
654
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,685
As the tape is reassembled by Shelly,
655
00:51:04,720 --> 00:51:08,880
it becomes apparent that some
sections are rather viewable.
656
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:28,800
And I'll say, yeah I'm here, you know. I'm here
while Locus is out hunting for the Jersey Devil.
657
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,680
And I'll be like, "ah, shut up"
658
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,320
Yeah, you can be like,
"I don't see him."
659
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:36,360
No, no, we better not do that because,
we've got to deliver on this show.
660
00:51:36,395 --> 00:51:37,960
This is the big one here.
661
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,320
Okay are we ready there, Rein?
662
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,160
Do you want me to still be
rolling on this stuff, Steven?
663
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,360
Do you want to state that that whole
thing. I think I kind of could hear you.
664
00:51:54,240 --> 00:51:56,640
I've been rolling the camera just
messing around shooting camp stuff but
665
00:51:56,675 --> 00:51:58,200
could you
- what was the deal with
666
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,920
I don't care if he hears this or not.
don't I mean this is never gonna make it
667
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:07,360
anything but the cutting room floor as they
would say film days. From what Sam was saying.
668
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,280
Sam, boy even
he was ---
669
00:52:10,240 --> 00:52:13,240
I don't want to be
like a bitch all night.
670
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:19,240
I'm going to take a walk out into the
woods and do a scout out of the location.
671
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:25,280
I also have to go the bathroom.
672
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,760
Get on the trumpet, do that sound.
673
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,960
Newark's doing its thing.
674
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,685
Yeah, I know the airplanes
from Newark. but eah we got
675
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:44,960
we got a little bit from that one machine going, but I
want to see you working for the reason you're out here.
676
00:52:44,995 --> 00:52:48,840
And Locus, come on, 1R
144 double X awaits you.
677
00:52:48,875 --> 00:52:50,840
Do some work, man!
678
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,000
Sure Steven, Anything you say, big guy.
679
00:52:56,120 --> 00:53:02,000
I'll be back in about ten minutes.
680
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:10,160
Hey, do me a favor and
switch that machine on.
681
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,160
There goes a little tyrant.
682
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:19,320
here, come on I got the camera roll
and do a Steven imitation for me.
683
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:38,840
Oh no I'm talking about Steven being a pussy
I'm not talking about Jim being a pussy.
684
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,320
Jim's one psycho mother fuck-kahh..
685
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,600
He's scary, man.
686
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,600
Let me get that on camera.
687
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:49,787
that thing isn't running, is it?
688
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,800
Of course it's running. We're
supposed to record everything.
689
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:58,000
give me a Jim
- why don't you do that line that you said..
690
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,880
What did you think when he pushed you?
691
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:16,320
Iwas a little bit... I don't know was
weird and kind of it freaked me out, man.
692
00:54:16,355 --> 00:54:19,400
I didn't really expect him to
be violent. I thought it was like
693
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,360
see that's what I don't get,
man. He's like totally like
694
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:28,120
I thought he was like one of those guys like you know
those peace, fucking meditation dudes or something....
695
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:35,720
Following these recorded moments, a
large portion of the tape is smashed.
696
00:54:36,240 --> 00:54:39,760
It is a section that Shelley
will attempt to restore.
697
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:46,640
The next section that is immediately viewable,
happens somewhere in the middle of the tape.
698
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:57,960
The first thing that is apparent is
that this is tape shot by Locus and Rein.
699
00:54:57,995 --> 00:55:02,040
Steven is nowhere to be seen.
They are searching for him.
700
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:06,840
on her third day of restoration
shelley makes another discovery.
701
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,720
The anonymous tape is not
from one, but two cameras.
702
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,880
Both Rein and Locus took
cameras into the forest.
703
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,560
Let me get the light up here.
704
00:55:17,595 --> 00:55:19,760
This is fact or fiction.
705
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:21,045
we can't find Steven.
706
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,325
Here we are in the Pine Barrens on
a trip that he drug us out here for.
707
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:30,560
We did a webcast, simulcast, cast cast cable
cast that really was pretty poor if you ask me.
708
00:55:30,595 --> 00:55:35,390
But that doesn't matter at this point
because Steven, our main host, is missing.
709
00:55:35,425 --> 00:55:38,052
Johnny. Johnny. Johnny love is gone.
710
00:55:38,087 --> 00:55:41,413
He's gone and we can't find him.
711
00:55:41,448 --> 00:55:44,740
All I want to do is drink some beer.
712
00:55:44,980 --> 00:55:49,125
see this is for you Steven. Even
though we don't know where you are,
713
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:54,160
we just want you to know that we're being
really loyal to this whole "shoot everything".
714
00:56:02,870 --> 00:56:08,940
In the sixth day of her work, Shelly
puts together a stunning piece of tape.
715
00:56:08,975 --> 00:56:12,830
It is a moment in time
that proves so much.
716
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,640
Footprint... I think
it goes off this way.
717
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:23,993
Do you see anything over there?
718
00:56:24,028 --> 00:56:25,974
He's been gone for a while.
719
00:56:26,009 --> 00:56:27,885
Do you know what time it is?
720
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,920
It's I think it's late it's like,
721
00:56:32,720 --> 00:56:35,400
Two... Forty Five.
722
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,445
Rein and Locus were alive
723
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:43,820
and speaking the time to one another
and they were supposed to be being killed
724
00:56:43,855 --> 00:56:47,560
and they're alive and they're
saying the time on the video.
725
00:56:47,595 --> 00:56:49,575
To me that proves that
726
00:56:49,610 --> 00:56:52,445
Jim absolutely was not
killing them at that time.
727
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:58,550
Jim is an innocent man and this was not
investigated in any way shape or form.
728
00:56:58,585 --> 00:57:03,840
It was overlooked. So many
details were overlooked.
729
00:57:03,875 --> 00:57:06,857
Also if he's an innocent man,
730
00:57:06,892 --> 00:57:09,805
there's a killer on the loose.
731
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,960
Shelly's work slowly
gives voices to the dead.
732
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,840
Ghosts caught on video.
733
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:32,320
why is he acting so weird?
734
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:38,200
I feel weird about it.
735
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:58,800
I feel weird about it. why didn't. you
try to stop him going into the woods.
736
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:05,360
The processing of the tape is quickly
becoming more difficult for Shelley.
737
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:10,400
Now only bits and pieces tell the
story of what happened in the woods.
738
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:17,400
On February 5th, Shelley presents a section of
videotape that is nothing short of horrifying.
739
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,200
It intensifies the question
of who the killer is.
740
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:17,480
On February 7th Shelley finds what she thinks
is the same moment in time from Locus's camera.
741
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,845
It cannot however be viewed.
742
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:25,480
She remains hopeful as she begins the
process of trying to reconstruct a lost video.
743
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:31,640
The computer needs me to direct it. It
doesn't know how to reconstruct a circle.
744
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:37,640
maybe it would have an opening at the side
and I have to teach it to continue the circle.
745
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,840
I'm a guiding factor.
746
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:45,520
While Shelley begins the process
of attempting to restore video,
747
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:50,160
I will attempt to find a truth
within the film I have already shot.
748
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:57,560
In sitting there waiting for these
video edits to render, I did wonder about
749
00:59:57,595 --> 01:00:02,870
certain aspects of the case...
750
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,452
Sometimes I wonder, am
i doing the right thing?
751
01:00:05,487 --> 01:00:07,725
Did this guy do it?
752
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:13,160
It seemed to me, from all what I saw,
that you know it was pretty likely
753
01:00:13,195 --> 01:00:14,085
that he did it.
754
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,360
I mean you had the blood
evidence and stuff like that,
755
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:20,760
But there was that the one guy
that they never found his body.
756
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:25,560
What happened to him? I mean,
could he have done it? I don't know.
757
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:27,765
It is an obvious question.
758
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,760
A question I had presented
to all the people interviewed.
759
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:36,520
The tape restoration is showing
Locus and Rein searching for Steven,
760
01:00:36,555 --> 01:00:39,120
which only makes the
question more relevant.
761
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,400
What happened to Steven Avkast?
762
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:46,440
By process of elimination, I proceed.
763
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:54,840
We did find some blood and of course
the infamous Johnny hat that was found.
764
01:00:55,160 --> 01:01:00,150
We were never able to
find any more remains.
765
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,880
of that person so we don't
know if he's dead or alive.
766
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:09,640
They never found Steven's body, Johnny
- but they found his hat.
767
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:14,520
So, I mean, I don't know. it's just weird
that the only thing left of him is...
768
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:16,200
a hat?
769
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:26,320
All right I'll be back in about ten minutes.
okay man, I'll be on that before we get back
770
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:36,480
we don't think that Mr. Avkast would be able to set
up mr. Suerd because the amount of blood that we found
771
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:40,800
Of Mr. Avkast is so great that he would have
bled to death trying to set Mr. Suerd up.
772
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,560
There goes the little tyrant.
773
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:48,765
oh whoa
774
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:52,480
check it out. Shine that over there.
775
01:01:52,515 --> 01:01:53,497
Oh Wow, what's that?
776
01:01:53,532 --> 01:01:54,480
I don't know, man.
777
01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,840
Looks like a light.
778
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:06,560
Yo, it's Steven's light. Yo Steve!
779
01:02:06,595 --> 01:02:08,040
Steven!!!
780
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:12,950
In finding that Jim's alibi holds up, we
have to attempt to answer the question raised:
781
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,600
who killed these people?
782
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:19,200
The likely suspect would
appear to be Steven.
783
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:24,480
As I watch these frames though, I
see no recognition in Locus's face.
784
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:30,080
I see Locus, a man larger
than Steven, turn tail and run.
785
01:02:30,115 --> 01:02:31,960
As does Rein.
786
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:38,000
Steven Avkast, being the culprit of the horrendous massacre
that took place in the minutes that follow this tape
787
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,320
is impossible to believe.
788
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:44,085
Aong with the amount of blood
that belongs to Steve Avkast,
789
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:48,520
this makes me believe that he also
was murdered in the Pine Barrens.
790
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:51,645
I am now also of the belief
791
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:57,320
that the killer was somehow something
more horrendous than possible to imagine.
792
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:05,200
what could have killed
three healthy men?
793
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,080
What would have left no footprints?
794
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:14,640
What would have torn the men into forty seven
pieces,leaving no evidence of a struggle?
795
01:03:14,675 --> 01:03:18,800
We could tell by what was a left in
the infliction of the wound that it was
796
01:03:18,810 --> 01:03:21,400
a serrated type weapon,
that much we know.
797
01:03:21,435 --> 01:03:24,565
there were noknife fragments or
798
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:32,400
any evidence of the actual weapon used
other than the cuts themselves well
799
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:42,800
We're a rural County, we have
people who are not greatly educated.
800
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,325
Rumors and folklore are common.
801
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:49,045
I put no credence in
anything of that nature.
802
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,440
I just go by the facts that the
police are able to ascertain.
803
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:53,520
A monster?
804
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:57,680
Yeah, I think this person's
a monster. I don't believe
805
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:02,320
fact or fiction. I don't
believe the fiction.
806
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:06,480
I think this is a person and
I'm gonna find out who it is.
807
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:13,480
I'm gonna reconstruct and do my job to
recover what has been lost -- the facts.
808
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:18,880
it is as though the Jersey Devil is
a monster reborn in a digital age.
809
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:20,845
Reborn on the Internet.
810
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:27,160
a demon captured on IRC logs,
mangled video, whispers in the dark.
811
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,080
It is to these that I look.
812
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:32,320
it's totally anonymous I
mean you can't trace a call
813
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,440
You don't know if it's
man, woman, old, young.
814
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,320
you don't know anything you
don't know where it's from.
815
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,920
I mean in one way I don't know
816
01:04:41,929 --> 01:04:45,799
why the cops didn't try to do
anything you know and try to figure out
817
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:50,020
Well who made that idea? Who
came up with that suggestion?
818
01:04:50,055 --> 01:04:54,240
Why don't you do a show
about the Jersey Devil?
819
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:57,240
we have this show Fact or Fiction.
820
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,079
It's a paranormal variety show.
you know we have guests come on,
821
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:05,200
That kind of thing. Well, things have
kind of been a little slow over at station,
822
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:09,280
the station so we thought what we would
do is we'd we'd make a little excursion
823
01:05:09,315 --> 01:05:20,640
there was a suggestion, via IRC,.....
824
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:23,760
and also to the mail bag.
825
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:24,800
Yeah.
826
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,720
That guy, D something.
Whatever his name was.
827
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:31,040
One thing about IRC
really hard is that -
828
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:35,760
It really is hard to trace it because,
I mean, it's not like like you know
829
01:05:35,779 --> 01:05:37,182
the phone number they're calling from.
830
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,840
I mean this could
have been like Shanghai
831
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,640
where they were writing
this message from.
832
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:44,805
You just don't know.
833
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:47,840
That's part of the beauty
and part of the evil of it.
834
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:59,200
it is amazing to be so near
835
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:03,080
yet so far from the possibility
of knowing who the killer is.
836
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:04,760
D something.
837
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:08,160
we thought what we would do
838
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:14,920
is we'd we'd make a little excursion.
there was a suggestion, via IRC, to -
839
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,440
and also from that mail bag.
840
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:18,345
yeah
841
01:06:18,380 --> 01:06:20,480
that guy D something
whatever his name was.
842
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:26,200
it's just not practical to keep logs to
that stuff. I get so much email, so much
843
01:06:26,210 --> 01:06:32,080
it would just clog up my system. I erased
it as we went along. I mean, once a job
844
01:06:32,099 --> 01:06:35,385
once a point got finished I
killed the email, got rid of it.
845
01:06:35,420 --> 01:06:36,445
it was it was like a to-do list.
846
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,040
I check it off, I get rid of this stuff.
847
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,440
So, once things weren't pertinent
anymore, I just get rid of them.
848
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:44,840
So I don't have anything of it really.
849
01:06:44,849 --> 01:06:49,680
I mean there there were like a couple of
emails that we had at the very end there
850
01:06:49,715 --> 01:06:53,200
But there's nothing illuminating there.
851
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:28,480
it gets harder and harder to stick
with your original gut feeling.
852
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:41,550
Because of the media, you know. The
attention that the whole case is getting,
853
01:07:41,585 --> 01:07:46,640
how one-sided, lopsided the whole
thing is. and you start to think,
854
01:07:46,675 --> 01:07:49,045
maybe
855
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:55,960
Maybe he did do it. Maybe there's
a side of Jim that I don't know that
856
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:58,440
that was capable of such atrocity.
857
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,605
As this journey nears its end,
858
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:05,080
I begin to fully understand the
essence of what this is about.
859
01:08:05,115 --> 01:08:08,285
the media upon which
these events were recorded.
860
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:11,070
the media that should have
been able to provide a truth
861
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:15,600
more pure than ever before,
has somehow become the story.
862
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:21,170
This has become more than a search for the
truth behind the Fact or Fiction murders.
863
01:08:21,205 --> 01:08:26,100
it has become an indictment of truth and how
it is viewed through the lens of the media.
864
01:08:26,135 --> 01:08:31,589
Pretty exciting moment here because
the fact or fiction logo is on screen
865
01:08:31,624 --> 01:08:33,485
which means one thing.
866
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:37,650
that we are now actually getting our
867
01:08:37,685 --> 01:08:42,245
feed live to the cable company
868
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:45,955
Reality television, the news,
869
01:08:45,990 --> 01:08:50,370
The 60-second clip of truth, have made
even the strongest of doubters wonder...
870
01:08:50,405 --> 01:08:53,840
Are you a psychic or a psycho?
871
01:08:54,200 --> 01:09:00,720
Look man I'll see you back at camp.
872
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:05,885
What did you say to him?
873
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:09,670
wait what do you mean he's gonna be where
we can't go -- Where the hell is the camp?
874
01:09:09,705 --> 01:09:11,799
this is the whole fucking thing
where the hell is the camp?
875
01:09:11,834 --> 01:09:12,964
We can't lose him.
876
01:09:12,999 --> 01:09:14,170
well, we're losing him.
877
01:09:14,205 --> 01:09:18,480
go find a man I'm not gonna go
anywhere near him fucking asshole, man.
878
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,005
just cut the damn camera already.
879
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:28,760
What is the truth? The editing process
- it's like sifting that stuff out
880
01:09:28,770 --> 01:09:36,720
ultimately, I mean not necessarily
with these legal videos, but with a
881
01:09:36,730 --> 01:09:42,040
documentary film, I mean ultimately it's
what the filmmaker perceives as the truth.
882
01:09:42,075 --> 01:09:45,920
I mean, don't you think
- that's what you're trying to do right?
883
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:50,484
The mistakes that were discovered
on this journey were stunning.
884
01:09:50,519 --> 01:09:52,640
shoddy police work
and a judgmental video
885
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:56,600
presented the world with a person
guilty before ever being tried.
886
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,045
I know Jim is not guilty.
887
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:01,240
I know that the truth is still at large,
888
01:10:01,260 --> 01:10:04,285
potentially closer
than anyone can realize.
889
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:09,280
it is as though the real killer planned
a media event so amazingly cunning
890
01:10:09,440 --> 01:10:12,000
that it could be thought of as scripted.
891
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:15,510
A kill ready for primetime, so to speak.
892
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:19,579
Perhaps the demon we call the Jersey
Devil did kill them in the Pine Barrens.
893
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:23,720
But if so, the Jersey Devil
is the electronic image,
894
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:25,720
the sound
895
01:10:25,739 --> 01:10:27,645
The communication to the masses,
896
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:31,200
Somehow twisted into a
surrealist electronic world.
897
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:36,880
I always asked the question
last: Do you Jim did it?
898
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:40,680
And with the exception of authorities
directly accountable to the answer,
899
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:44,560
I have felt that the answer given has been
- it doesn't matter.
900
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:48,560
The truth is what time
has made of this event.
901
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:52,180
it has been good for
business. Often murder is.
902
01:10:52,215 --> 01:10:55,520
so many involved
benefited from this event.
903
01:10:55,560 --> 01:11:00,480
The inevitable book deal is being replaced
with a career in the business of image control.
904
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:04,040
And most of the people interviewed
are ready to embrace it.
905
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:08,960
I guess a grim irony here,
as these post-its can attest,
906
01:11:09,440 --> 01:11:17,200
the fact that when we have some real dead
bodies, then the sharks start circling.
907
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:26,760
Strange that an incident
like that would be a prelude
908
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:30,365
to a new phase in my career.
909
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,205
It's interesting, after
the court case was over
910
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:36,345
with all the publicity and everything
surrounding it, you know, I started
911
01:11:36,380 --> 01:11:42,080
getting the phone calls for a couple job
leads. I mean, you know, so in one way,
912
01:11:42,115 --> 01:11:43,525
This might have helped me out of here.
913
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:46,560
How long will it take to
process the entire tape?
914
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,340
it's not my intention to
process the whole tape.
915
01:11:49,375 --> 01:11:50,480
I don't need to do that.
916
01:11:50,500 --> 01:11:53,810
it could take hours, it could take days.
917
01:11:53,845 --> 01:11:57,120
I need to process a
particular piece of tape
918
01:11:57,440 --> 01:12:00,120
that could potentially reveal a killer.
919
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:05,320
Shelley continues to extrapolate
information from a frame
920
01:12:05,355 --> 01:12:10,400
While I will reenact the
events of December 151995
921
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:16,405
This is one of the stops that the guys
made on the way to the pine barrens.
922
01:12:16,440 --> 01:12:21,160
I know this because of the extensive documentary
footage that they had taken take of this place.
923
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:23,320
I don't know what good this will do.
924
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,320
I think it's just to keep
myself clear on wha happened.
925
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:28,720
You know the order of events.
926
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:32,840
Strangely the weather is almost
identical to the way it was that day.
927
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:07,350
I'm now travelling an access route
that I know Steven and Locus had taken.
928
01:13:07,385 --> 01:13:09,078
for the Jersey Devil Project.
929
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:13,000
We're in the midst of the
Pine Barrens at this point.
930
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:17,120
and what I'm hoping to do is see if I
can't do a recreation of the campsite,
931
01:13:17,130 --> 01:13:19,966
Perhaps the murder scene.
932
01:13:20,001 --> 01:13:23,800
Hopefully traversing this
won't be too big of a problem.
933
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:27,920
I'm using this video camera
just as a matter of convenience.
934
01:13:27,955 --> 01:13:31,645
Using film out here with prove
to be logistically too difficult.
935
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:40,040
Hopefully we can get you some good
footage and really try demonstrate -
936
01:13:40,075 --> 01:13:44,640
The intrepid nature of Steven and Locus.
937
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:17,470
I feel with some more work
that I will find the killer.
938
01:14:17,480 --> 01:14:20,640
I will see the face of the killer.
939
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:05,840
This site is a very close approximation
of the one used by Steven and Locus on
940
01:15:05,875 --> 01:15:07,805
the night of the Jersey Devil episode.
941
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:12,160
They'd chosen a clearing similar to
this one as base camp for the telecast.
942
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:16,360
When they ventured onto the
Pine Barrens with their cameras,
943
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:18,480
they would never return alive again.
944
01:15:19,480 --> 01:15:22,960
The documentary footage that generated
on that evening proves irrevocably,
945
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:26,205
that Jim Suerd was not
responsible for their murders.
946
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:30,720
That Locus and Rein Clackin were actually
alive at the time they were ostensibly killed.
947
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:34,080
and that the police
case was shoddy at best.
948
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:36,360
what is the Jersey Devil?
949
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:39,760
it's a man wandering into the Pine
Barrens never to be seen again.
950
01:15:39,795 --> 01:15:43,400
It's a mangled animal found
on one of these access roads.
951
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:48,440
Or perhaps it's something that rests within
our psyche and we'll never truly understand.
952
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:52,120
I've been on this project for months now
and haven't come to a clear definition
953
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:54,960
of what actually happened
or who was responsible.
954
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:59,920
All I know is that it's a mystery
and it may permanently remain so.
955
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:07,600
What is the Jersey Devil?
956
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:39,520
I'm now outside of Shelley's studio.
957
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:41,640
All the media.
958
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:44,320
all the interviews
959
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,040
the truth comes down to this one frame.
960
01:19:00,180 --> 01:19:04,620
I've determined that this is no time to
be distracted or set aside in the course
961
01:19:04,655 --> 01:19:07,625
of the events that I've set into motion.
962
01:19:07,660 --> 01:19:09,540
My next step will be
going to the Pine Barrens
963
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:15,520
for a reenactment of the murders of Steven
Avkast and Locus Wheeler and Rein Clackin.
964
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:19,420
I'm as strong in my resolve as
before and improving that Jim Suerd
965
01:19:19,455 --> 01:19:21,080
was not responsible for these murders.
966
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:25,700
That he had neither the intellect nor the
logical capacity to carry them through.
967
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:31,900
I think that the replayment of our events here
will be quite compelling in the demonstration of
968
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:34,600
Suerd's innocence.
969
01:21:43,460 --> 01:21:47,420
This site is a close approximation of
the one chosen by Steven Locus as the
970
01:21:47,455 --> 01:21:53,540
site of their Fact or Fiction
Jersey Devil broadcast. They'd...
971
01:21:54,260 --> 01:22:01,560
This site is a close approximation of the one chosen by Steven and
Locus as the site of their Fact or Fiction Jersey Devil Broadcast.
972
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:05,260
They'd chosen a clearing similar
to this one... as base camp
973
01:22:05,940 --> 01:22:08,840
and ventured into the pine barrens
with their cameras... this site....
974
01:22:09,780 --> 01:22:14,040
is a close approximation of the one
chosen by Steven and Locus as the site of
975
01:22:14,075 --> 01:22:18,300
their Fact or Fiction Jersey Devil
Broadcast,.. they'c chosen a similar....
976
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:39,100
this site is a close approximation....
977
01:26:39,220 --> 01:26:41,280
you
92021
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