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[ominous music]
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The zombie is absolutely
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all-American horror metaphor.
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- [growling]
- They are the monster
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of the 21st century.
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Right now it does seem like
we're in the middle
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of a zombie apocalypse.
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We're getting our chance
to exercise
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our most anti-social emotions.
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- [screaming]
- You know, that...
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that mob impulse that's like,
"Yeah, kill them all
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and let God sort them out."
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[zombies groaning]
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Eventually
they overwhelm you.
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- They're not stopping to eat.
- [screaming]
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Well, I mean,
unless they're stopping
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- to eat one of you.
- We're all gonna die.
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We all are gonna
get cancer one day.
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We're all gonna get sick.
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It's almost like
an accelerated version of that.
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We don't want zombies
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to come and destroy
all of our friends
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and family and institutions...
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but on some level,
maybe we do.
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Like, on some level
it provides us a chance
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to just dismantle
everything...
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[frantic music]
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And possibly start over.
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[screaming]
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What are humans like
when faced with the end
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of humanity?
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What are they like
when they're faced
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with very few choices
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in... in regards
to how to survive?
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That's the horror
of zombie movies.
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- No!
- It's the wrong impulses
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that come out of people
that are far more terrifying
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than the walking dead.
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[zombies growling, screeching]
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♪♪
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[sinister music]
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♪♪
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[foreboding music]
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I'm Eli Roth.
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[hissing]
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The history of horror
is filled with monsters.
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Nightmare figures that tap
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into our deepest fears.
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♪♪
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But our fears,
and our monsters,
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change with the times.
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♪♪
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Right now, it's the time
of the zombie.
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[zombies growling, screeching]
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Fast zombies, slow zombies,
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comedy zombies,
teen zombies...
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[screaming]
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Whatever their shape,
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zombies are everywhere.
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How did we get here?
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What set off zombie fever?
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As we'll see,
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zombies have been around
for decades.
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[zombies hissing, growling]
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♪♪
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But the debut
of "The Walking Dead"
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in 2010 saw them explode
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- into popular culture.
- [growling]
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To almost everyone's
surprise, a horror series
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became the most popular show
on television.
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♪♪
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My brother's kids...
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ten years old, five years...
they watch "Walking Dead."
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[yells]
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Kids eight years old
watch "Walking Dead."
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What is it
about "Walking Dead"
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that zombies have become so,
almost normalized
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- that kids love it.
- [clears throat]
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They don't take it seriously.
I think it's amazing.
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- Well...
- "Walking Dead" plays
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- like a family show.
- It's all about
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the characters.
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♪♪
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You can follow
this group of people
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as they struggle to survive
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week after week
after week after week.
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[hissing]
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♪♪
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You can see them live,
you can see them die,
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you can see everything
that they go through
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with the zombie apocalypse
set as the backdrop.
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- [zombies growling]
- [panting]
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Everybody wants to...
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think that they would be able
to survive
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the zombie apocalypse.
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[grunting, exclaiming]
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You figure, "What would I do
to survive?"
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Uh, because that is the crux
of the show,
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ordinary people who
all of a sudden
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are thrust into
an extraordinary situation.
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which always give you
some of the best drama.
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[zombie growling]
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Are you gonna fight
for what you believe in?
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Are you gonna be
the type of person
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that runs away from it?
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You know, there's no status
and... and fame,
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and money, and uh,
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there's none
of that bull[bleep].
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The apocalyptic simulation
is really an interesting
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sociological experiment
about, you know,
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who do people become,
and who would I become,
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and what would be okay
if the rules weren't
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the same anymore?
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I want to be a Michonne...
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[zombies hissing]
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But I'm probably more of, um...
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I don't know, a Eugene.
[laughs]
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You got a name, ass[bleep]?
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Eugene.
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They're coming to get you,
Barbara.
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Stop it!
You're acting like a child.
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They're coming for you.
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Look, there comes
one of them now.
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Without George Romero and
"Night of the Living Dead,"
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there would be
no "Walking Dead."
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"Night of the Living Dead"
laid the template
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for every zombie
survival story that followed.
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It's a simple plot...
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six people trapped
in a farmhouse
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surrounded by
the flesh-eating undead...
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but it changed everything.
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You got to see
the boundary pushed
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going from
the 1950s creatures...
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the man in the rubber suit...
to like, graphic viscera.
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- Mm-hmm.
- What was it like seeing it
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pushed farther and farther?
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- [zombies growling]
- I can remember just
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sort of wandering into
a screening
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of "Night of the Living Dead."
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The whole place was full
of kids... it was like
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a Saturday matinee...
and they're all, you know,
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yelling and grab-assing around
and throwing
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their popcorn boxes,
and that thing got going
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and they just fell
entirely silent.
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[zombie growling]
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- [weeping]
- And I was scared, too.
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The first time that you see
something like that,
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you're not prepared
for what you're looking at.
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[sinister music]
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George Romero
really creates the rules.
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I mean, the whole thing
of, like, if you get bit,
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- you turned into one...
- Yeah.
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Shoot them in the head...
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♪♪
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- That didn't exist before.
- Those rules
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for the modern-day zombie
were created 50 years ago.
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- By George Romero.
- If I were surrounded
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by six or eight
of these things, would I stand
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- a chance with them?
- Well, there's no problem.
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If you had a gun,
shoot 'em in the head.
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That's a sure way to kill 'em.
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If you don't, get yourself
a club or a torch.
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Beat 'em or burn 'em.
They go up pretty easy.
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♪♪
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It almost feels like
the zombie movie...
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there's like a quantum leap
that happens
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where there are
different phases.
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Like the 1930s and '40s,
it was the...
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"I Walked With a Zombie."
It was "White Zombie."
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It was the hypnotist zombie.
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It was a mad scientist
on an island
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that has found a way
to raise the dead
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- and enslave them.
- A lot of zombie films
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were about people
who had been just stripped
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of their identity
and were slaves, almost.
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You know, they could be
workers, or they could just
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sort of shamble and look scary,
but they weren't attacking
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and biting and killing
like they did
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in "Night of the Living Dead."
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Baby...
[gasps]
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- [whimpering]
- Mean, there were things
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that were so transgressive
in that movie.
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[whimpering]
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[wailing]
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The little girl stabs
her mother to death.
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The little kid
killing her mom, that had...
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no one had ever seen
anything like that.
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The first time you see it,
you're just horrified.
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You can't believe
what you're seeing.
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[screeching]
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"Night of the Living Dead"
was much more
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of a claustrophobic nightmare
kind of experience,
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"Night of the Living Dead"
is also, uh,
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somewhat facetious,
and it's also...
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it has its
sociopolitical allegory.
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What's important about
"Night of the Living Dead"
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is the fact that the travails
of the people
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locked in that house
are really a microcosm
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of what's going on
in American society
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- [indistinct]
- The tumult of the late 1960s
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is reflected in the fear
and the... the violence
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that... that occur in
and around that house.
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That movie's revolutionary
in many, many ways
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and had profound impact...
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the fact it had
a black lead...
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[suspenseful music]
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[groans]
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Which George always said
was not deliberate.
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It was that Duane was
the best actor.
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I don't believe him.
I think it was deliberate.
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With all of us working,
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we can fix this place up
in no time.
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We have everything we need
up here.
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We can take all that stuff
downstairs with us.
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Man, you're really crazy,
you know that?
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Let's say you're a...
a white viewer
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in the late 1960s...
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who has a few prejudices, say,
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and is a little bit worried
that the world is ending
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because of all of the, uh,
racial legislation
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of the '60s...
The Voting Rights Act,
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The Civil Rights Act...
and here's this zombie film
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where the dead
are coming back to life
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and a black man is in charge.
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I don't want anyone's life
on my hands.
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- Is there anything I can do?
- I don't wanna hear any more
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from you, mister.
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If you stay up here,
you take orders from me.
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I will contend that
that might have been
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as frightening to some viewers
as the child eating her mother
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in the basement.
[laughing]
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[sinister music]
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What we get is potentially
something hopeful, you know,
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with the African-American
protagonist...
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like maybe some new direction
socially...
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but instead it just turns
into vigilante justice
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represented by
a white lynch mob.
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You can imagine the... the shock
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that audiences must have felt
to... to be coaxed
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into identifying
with a black man
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only to have him shot
and then pitchforked
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onto a pile of burning bodies
at the end.
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That's a slap.
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That's a direct slap
to any audience,
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right wing or left wing.
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"The Night
of the Living Dead"
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does not end on any kind
of triumph.
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Your hero is shot by police.
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It's the most upsetting ending
in cinema.
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And then that has continued
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through horror cinema
of actually...
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It doesn't always have
a happy ending.
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♪♪
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I think that's the joy
of horror cinema,
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is that it can, like,
affect you in lots
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- of different ways.
- If George Romero
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had only made
"Night of the Living Dead,"
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- he would still be a legend...
- [growling]
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But he didn't stop.
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"Night of the Living Dead"
and its sequels
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changed the course
of film history.
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and inspired the best
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the horror genre has to offer.
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- [groaning]
- He was such a big influence
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on "Shaun of the Dead."
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We liked this idea
of our film taking place
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within George Romero's
universe.
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[yelling]
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- [grunts]
- "Shaun of the Dead"
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was so well done
that it opened the floodgates
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to, like, everybody to try
and make a zombie movie.
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[dramatic music]
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Today, zombie movies
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and TV shows are everywhere.
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but not so long ago,
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they had virtually
disappeared.
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Edgar Wright's
"Shaun of the Dead"
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helped bring them back
bigger than ever.
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[sinister music]
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[zombies moaning]
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When we thought up the idea
for "Shaun of the Dead,"
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one of the inspirations for it
is because there hadn't been
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a zombie film
for, like, 15 years.
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♪♪
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We always had this theory
that, like, uh,
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John Landis' video
for "Thriller"
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sort of killed off zombies
for the second half
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of the '80s and early '90s.
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[menacing laughter]
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So I think what happened was,
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all of a sudden
the zombie genre...
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which traditionally had
probably sort of died out...
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- Yeah.
- A little bit...
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and then all of a sudden
you have all these
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zombie video games
and they're like, "[bleep],
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man, people love
shooting zombies."
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It was around, like,
the late 1990s
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when "Resident Evil" came out...
the game.
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[gunfire]
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- [zombie groans]
- So people started
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to take an interest
in the genre again.
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[foreboding music]
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Every now and then,
we see a movie
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that is supposedly horror...
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but yet uses
social commentary brilliantly,
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and the best example
is "Shaun of the Dead."
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[cheerful music]
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You want to know
where Britain was
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at that time, you look at
"Shaun of the Dead."
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[groaning]
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In the '90s and the dawn
of the new century,
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we were in a new phase
in Britain...
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and a whole new generation
of Britons were asking:
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"What's next?"
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And they were a little lost.
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[gunfire]
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Hey, man, listen, um...
oh, top left.
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- Uh-huh.
- I was gonna say...
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- reload.
- I'm on it.
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And it was brilliant.
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What I love about
"Shaun of the Dead"
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is they're not making fun of...
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zombie movies,
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they're making
a funny zombie movie.
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I'm not gonna say,
"If you love her, let her go,"
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and I'm not gonna bombard you
with clichés.
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But what I will say is this...
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[chuffs, sniffles]
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It's not the end of the world.
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[banging on glass]
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[sinister music]
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And they play on
all the tropes...
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Sorry, we're closed.
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[moaning]
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I'd been playing
"Resident Evil 3,"
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like, all night.
[laughs]
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My girlfriend at the time
had gone away...
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[zombie groans]
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And I promised her
I wouldn't play video games
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all weekend,
and I did exactly that.
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I remember, vividly,
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playing it until
the sun came up.
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[dramatic flair]
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[snores, grunts]
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[coughs]
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And then walking
across the street
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to the news agent
to get some milk
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to make some tea...
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and I walked across the street,
and it was completely empty
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on a Sunday morning.
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And the shop was
the only thing that was open,
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and in that moment,
I had a thought of thinking,
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"What would it be like if
if zombies were here right now,
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and what would I do?"
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Because we don't really
have guns in the UK,
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- How would I defend myself?
- [coughing]
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It's just
that little thought
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really sort of started
to inspire the sequence
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where Shaun walks
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to the store and back
hungover.
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So the zombie apocalypse
has started,
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but he's still unaware of it.
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[growling]
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But he does this walk...
it's a long,
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steady cam shot...
and he goes into the shop
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and he doesn't notice...
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little things.
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[music playing over speakers]
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The bloody handprints
on the wall,
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and he's walking away
from the refrigerator
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and he just slips in blood.
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[shoes squeaking]
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It's so subtle, but it's...
[laughing]
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It's such a great moment
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because you know...
you as the audience
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know what's coming...
his character doesn't
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know it yet, and it's...
he... he's still out of it.
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- Nelson.
- It's such a simple moment
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but it's one of my favorite
moments in the movie.
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It's wonderful,
the way they show
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the collapse of society.
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[phone ringing]
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Zombies become a symbol
of anarchy,
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and the collapse
of the system,
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and all that protects us.
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[indistinct]
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- [zombies groaning]
- Top left!
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[lively music]
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- Ah!
- Reload.
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I'm on it.
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We wanted to stay true
to the spirit
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of "Night of the Living Dead"
and "Dawn of the Dead."
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[eerie music]
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The film is like a valentine
to George Romero
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because we love those movies.
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We're, like, sharing our deep,
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00:15:04,988 --> 00:15:07,908
deep love for the subject.
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Right down to its title,
"Shaun of the Dead"
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is a tribute to what
any horror fan will tell you
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is the greatest zombie film
of all time.
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There's no greater
zombie movie
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than "Dawn of the Dead."
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I think "Dawn of the Dead"
is a real masterpiece.
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It's that rare kind
of, like, nightmare world
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00:15:25,300 --> 00:15:27,970
which you actually wouldn't...
I mean, maybe this is just me,
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but you wouldn't mind
being in it.
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[laughing]
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00:15:30,806 --> 00:15:32,350
[zombies growling]
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00:15:35,769 --> 00:15:37,646
- No! No!
- George Romero's
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"Night of the Living Dead"
created the modern zombie.
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That was a hard act to follow,
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but the director topped it
with his sequel,
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"Dawn of the Dead."
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[zombies growling]
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[sinister music]
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"Dawn of the Dead"
was a potent mixture
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of horror, satire,
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and outrageous
special effects.
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[screaming]
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[zombies growling]
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It's, uh, basically
a continuation of the...
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of "Night of the Living Dead,"
where zombies are
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taking over the world.
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00:16:04,882 --> 00:16:06,258
[zombies growling]
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This was the first depiction
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of a full-scale
zombie apocalypse,
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a nightmare vision
of social collapse
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that became the template
for virtually
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every end-of-the-world story
we see today.
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Once again, Romero used horror
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00:16:22,274 --> 00:16:24,526
to comment on American values.
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He is masterfully executing
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all of those horror elements
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in a way that brings it
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00:16:32,993 --> 00:16:36,830
right to a social justice
scenario...
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Martinez!
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00:16:39,166 --> 00:16:40,626
You've been watching!
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You know we've got
this building surrounded!
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00:16:43,337 --> 00:16:48,091
Particularly that opening
when in the ghettos,
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all of the poor
are keeping their loved ones
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hidden away from the rest
of the world,
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because they know that
they will kill them.
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00:16:55,682 --> 00:16:58,810
People in this project
are your responsibility.
444
00:16:58,852 --> 00:17:01,522
In the first 20 minutes,
there's a SWAT team
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- raiding a house...
- Yeah.
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00:17:03,065 --> 00:17:04,608
And one
of the police officers
447
00:17:04,650 --> 00:17:06,443
is unbelievably racist.
448
00:17:06,485 --> 00:17:08,338
Yeah, come on, Martinez.
Show your greasy little
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Puerto Rican ass
so I can blow it right off.
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00:17:10,405 --> 00:17:11,865
And I was like,
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00:17:11,907 --> 00:17:14,159
"Why is this guy concerned
with racism?"
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00:17:14,201 --> 00:17:15,827
Like, there's zombies
in the building.
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00:17:15,869 --> 00:17:17,412
- [laughing]
- It was unbelievable.
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I was like,
"Aren't there bigger problems?"
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Let's go, let's go!
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00:17:20,582 --> 00:17:22,709
[all shouting]
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00:17:23,877 --> 00:17:26,755
That blew my mind as a kid
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00:17:26,797 --> 00:17:29,341
because I realized
I was watching
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a political story
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00:17:31,843 --> 00:17:34,012
about the race
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00:17:34,054 --> 00:17:35,681
and class system in America.
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00:17:35,722 --> 00:17:37,140
[bell ringing]
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After showing
society crumbling,
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the film shifts focus
to a small group of survivors
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who take refuge
in a suburban shopping mall.
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I think the great thing
about zombies
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is they are like
a catch-all metaphor
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00:17:50,279 --> 00:17:53,365
of the world's ills,
and I think George Romero
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00:17:53,407 --> 00:17:55,450
doesn't really get
enough credit as a satirist
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as well as a horror film maker.
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00:17:57,244 --> 00:17:58,829
Come on!
[shouting]
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"Dawn of the Dead"
being the most
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kind of savage statement
about the state of consumerism
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00:18:03,083 --> 00:18:04,751
in the late '70s.
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00:18:04,793 --> 00:18:06,253
[zombie growling]
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00:18:06,295 --> 00:18:08,589
The idea of
the mindless hordes
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flock to the big
fancy shopping mall...
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00:18:10,424 --> 00:18:12,718
[cheerful music]
479
00:18:12,759 --> 00:18:14,344
That was very pointed
and very funny.
480
00:18:14,386 --> 00:18:16,888
What are they doing?
Why do they come here?
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Some kind of instinct.
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Memory of what
they used to do.
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00:18:21,602 --> 00:18:23,979
This was an important place
in their lives.
484
00:18:24,021 --> 00:18:26,106
You can't watch that movie
and not become aware
485
00:18:26,148 --> 00:18:28,775
of the fact
that this is a story about
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00:18:28,817 --> 00:18:31,028
what humans really are:
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00:18:31,069 --> 00:18:33,405
grasping, vampiric creatures
488
00:18:33,447 --> 00:18:35,574
that kind of return endlessly
to their old habits
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00:18:35,616 --> 00:18:38,076
because it's
what they're taught.
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00:18:38,118 --> 00:18:39,703
I think "Dawn of the Dead"
491
00:18:39,745 --> 00:18:42,122
should be sold in a box set
with "Easy Rider."
492
00:18:42,164 --> 00:18:43,915
It should be called
"The Baby Boomers:
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The Beginning and the End."
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00:18:46,501 --> 00:18:49,671
Romero has managed
to distill...
495
00:18:49,713 --> 00:18:51,465
[camera shutter snapping]
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00:18:51,506 --> 00:18:53,967
The worst of every generation
into all of his movies.
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00:18:54,009 --> 00:18:56,553
You see the baby boomers
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00:18:56,595 --> 00:18:58,263
losing their souls.
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00:18:58,305 --> 00:19:00,474
What have we done
to ourselves?
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Because what Romero did
501
00:19:02,184 --> 00:19:04,853
was channel his outrage
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00:19:04,895 --> 00:19:07,481
at his generation's
ultimate surrender
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00:19:07,522 --> 00:19:09,232
of all their ideals
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00:19:09,274 --> 00:19:11,026
- and he put it in a movie.
- So, I mean,
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00:19:11,068 --> 00:19:13,487
if you were gonna go out and do
a talky little, uh, drama
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00:19:13,528 --> 00:19:16,156
to try to criticize
the consumer society
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00:19:16,198 --> 00:19:17,824
that we have here,
you couldn't make
508
00:19:17,866 --> 00:19:19,826
- $30 million, you know?
- That's for sure.
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00:19:19,868 --> 00:19:21,870
So, terrific.
You get a couple of jabs in
510
00:19:21,912 --> 00:19:23,914
while you're having fun
with the rollercoaster ride
511
00:19:23,955 --> 00:19:26,291
which really is the surface.
512
00:19:26,333 --> 00:19:28,710
[indistinct shouting]
513
00:19:28,752 --> 00:19:31,046
Romero was a man
with a message,
514
00:19:31,088 --> 00:19:33,382
but his gleeful embrace
of gore
515
00:19:33,423 --> 00:19:35,425
made him a horror favorite.
516
00:19:35,467 --> 00:19:37,969
"Dawn of the Dead,"
I had never seen that level
517
00:19:38,011 --> 00:19:39,221
of a body count in a movie.
518
00:19:39,262 --> 00:19:41,264
[gunshots]
519
00:19:48,271 --> 00:19:50,857
You're, like, watching like,
"Who made this?"
520
00:19:50,899 --> 00:19:52,609
- Yeah.
- Like, a maniac?
521
00:19:52,651 --> 00:19:54,736
[dramatic music]
522
00:19:54,778 --> 00:19:57,698
But normally, one movie,
there'd be one kill
523
00:19:57,739 --> 00:19:59,366
that was amazing,
and it was like
524
00:19:59,408 --> 00:20:01,618
every 30 seconds,
each kill was different.
525
00:20:01,660 --> 00:20:02,953
[propeller whirring]
526
00:20:02,994 --> 00:20:04,579
- That helicopter blade...
- Yeah.
527
00:20:04,621 --> 00:20:06,265
- Pulling it off the head...
- The guy with
528
00:20:06,289 --> 00:20:07,892
- the giant forehead.
- Which... which if you were...
529
00:20:07,916 --> 00:20:09,556
- Exactly.
- By the way, when you're a kid
530
00:20:09,584 --> 00:20:11,044
you never see that coming.
531
00:20:11,086 --> 00:20:13,296
You see he staggers out
and his head...
532
00:20:13,338 --> 00:20:15,048
[all chattering]
533
00:20:15,090 --> 00:20:16,800
You never put
two and two together.
534
00:20:16,842 --> 00:20:18,319
Now you look at it and go,
"Oh, of course, he's gonna
535
00:20:18,343 --> 00:20:20,429
get his head cut off."
536
00:20:21,346 --> 00:20:23,890
Really accomplished
horror directors knew
537
00:20:23,932 --> 00:20:26,476
having Tom Savini doing
the make-up special effects
538
00:20:26,518 --> 00:20:28,520
that it was gonna
elevate that film.
539
00:20:28,562 --> 00:20:31,732
and give them a wider audience
than they ever anticipated.
540
00:20:31,773 --> 00:20:33,400
Well, it was Halloween
every day.
541
00:20:33,442 --> 00:20:34,961
We did that for three months
in a shopping mall.
542
00:20:34,985 --> 00:20:36,862
[growling]
543
00:20:36,903 --> 00:20:38,864
80% of the effects in that
were stuff that
544
00:20:38,905 --> 00:20:40,490
we came up with.
545
00:20:40,532 --> 00:20:42,093
We'd go to George and say,
"Hey, how about if we drive
546
00:20:42,117 --> 00:20:43,928
a screwdriver through...
through the zombies, here."
547
00:20:43,952 --> 00:20:46,079
And he'd go, "Okay."
548
00:20:46,121 --> 00:20:48,081
So then two hours later
we're making
549
00:20:48,123 --> 00:20:50,208
retractable screwdrivers
and, you know,
550
00:20:50,250 --> 00:20:52,252
making it bleed inside
a zombie's ear.
551
00:20:52,294 --> 00:20:53,837
[dramatic music]
552
00:20:53,879 --> 00:20:56,173
But the scene
that makes you like, wonder,
553
00:20:56,214 --> 00:20:57,924
"Oh, wow...
554
00:20:57,966 --> 00:20:59,384
can I even handle this?"
555
00:20:59,426 --> 00:21:01,887
Is when the zombie
in the project...
556
00:21:01,928 --> 00:21:04,139
- when, uh, his wife...
- [shouting]
557
00:21:04,181 --> 00:21:06,391
He's still alive,
comes to her and...
558
00:21:06,433 --> 00:21:07,433
and embraces him.
559
00:21:07,434 --> 00:21:09,020
"My baby, my baby."
560
00:21:09,060 --> 00:21:10,854
And then she... he just bites...
561
00:21:10,896 --> 00:21:13,064
just a chunk out
of her shoulder.
562
00:21:13,106 --> 00:21:15,484
- Carlito...
- [growling]
563
00:21:15,525 --> 00:21:17,235
[shrieking]
564
00:21:17,277 --> 00:21:18,904
It just looks real.
565
00:21:18,945 --> 00:21:20,447
It just... it just...
566
00:21:20,489 --> 00:21:21,740
you buy it.
567
00:21:21,782 --> 00:21:23,992
- [screaming]
- If humans had
568
00:21:24,034 --> 00:21:27,078
shark-like mouths,
that's probably the effect
569
00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:28,663
of what would happen
570
00:21:28,705 --> 00:21:30,665
if a sharky human bit you.
571
00:21:30,707 --> 00:21:32,334
[growling]
572
00:21:33,293 --> 00:21:34,604
It's just an effect
we had never seen before,
573
00:21:34,628 --> 00:21:36,087
and it draws a line
in the sand.
574
00:21:36,129 --> 00:21:37,672
"Am I ready
for the rest of this?"
575
00:21:37,714 --> 00:21:39,341
[sinister music]
576
00:21:39,382 --> 00:21:42,052
George Romero's vision
was so influential
577
00:21:42,093 --> 00:21:44,721
that for decades,
most screen zombies
578
00:21:44,763 --> 00:21:47,724
were slow-moving ghouls.
579
00:21:47,766 --> 00:21:49,726
But in 2002,
580
00:21:49,768 --> 00:21:52,062
Danny Boyle's
"28 Days Later"
581
00:21:52,103 --> 00:21:53,605
gave us a zombie
582
00:21:53,647 --> 00:21:55,941
for the fast-moving
21st century
583
00:21:55,982 --> 00:21:57,901
and set off a controversy
584
00:21:57,943 --> 00:21:59,945
that rages to this day.
585
00:21:59,986 --> 00:22:02,322
- I'm a slow zombie guy.
- I like fast zombies.
586
00:22:02,364 --> 00:22:05,116
I'm a card-carrying
slow zombie fan.
587
00:22:05,158 --> 00:22:06,910
[zombies screeching, growling]
588
00:22:09,746 --> 00:22:11,581
[dark music]
589
00:22:11,623 --> 00:22:14,125
Imagine waking up in a world
ravaged by a disease
590
00:22:14,167 --> 00:22:16,211
that turns ordinary people
591
00:22:16,253 --> 00:22:18,421
into mindless predators
driven to kill.
592
00:22:18,463 --> 00:22:20,215
♪♪
593
00:22:20,257 --> 00:22:22,968
This is the premise
of "28 Days Later,"
594
00:22:23,009 --> 00:22:25,971
director Danny Boyle's
groundbreaking reinvention
595
00:22:26,012 --> 00:22:27,055
of the zombie film.
596
00:22:27,097 --> 00:22:29,099
[zombie screaming]
597
00:22:31,059 --> 00:22:32,853
- [hissing]
- [yells]
598
00:22:32,894 --> 00:22:35,522
Fight! Fight!
599
00:22:35,564 --> 00:22:37,107
"28 Days Later"
600
00:22:37,148 --> 00:22:40,068
is a perfect horror movie
601
00:22:40,110 --> 00:22:42,863
because it's based
on a premise
602
00:22:42,904 --> 00:22:44,906
you can completely believe.
603
00:22:44,948 --> 00:22:46,700
- [growling]
- I don't know what it's like
604
00:22:46,741 --> 00:22:48,618
- to be bitten by a vampire.
- [roaring]
605
00:22:48,660 --> 00:22:50,096
I don't know what it's like
to be threatened
606
00:22:50,120 --> 00:22:51,872
- by a werewolf.
- [indistinct]
607
00:22:51,913 --> 00:22:53,331
[electronic interference]
608
00:22:53,373 --> 00:22:55,667
But I can imagine
what it's like...
609
00:22:55,709 --> 00:22:58,753
to have a plague spread
like wildfire
610
00:22:58,795 --> 00:23:01,381
because it's just too close
611
00:23:01,423 --> 00:23:03,884
to the headlines
of today's news.
612
00:23:03,925 --> 00:23:05,719
[growling]
613
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,387
- [hissing]
- It could happen.
614
00:23:07,429 --> 00:23:08,763
[dramatic music]
615
00:23:08,805 --> 00:23:10,557
"28 Days Later" came out
616
00:23:10,599 --> 00:23:13,101
a year after 9/11,
and it includes
617
00:23:13,143 --> 00:23:15,145
these really haunting scenes
618
00:23:15,186 --> 00:23:17,397
of a deserted London...
619
00:23:17,439 --> 00:23:20,734
♪♪
620
00:23:20,775 --> 00:23:23,904
Missing persons flyers
pasted to bulletin boards
621
00:23:23,945 --> 00:23:26,197
like we saw post 9/11...
622
00:23:26,239 --> 00:23:28,366
♪♪
623
00:23:28,408 --> 00:23:31,077
It also was able to, uh,
624
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,997
capitalize on a lot of the...
the anxieties
625
00:23:34,039 --> 00:23:35,916
and fears of the time.
626
00:23:35,957 --> 00:23:37,417
♪♪
627
00:23:37,459 --> 00:23:39,419
SARS and anthrax
628
00:23:39,461 --> 00:23:42,756
and Mad Cow's Disease,
bird flues...
629
00:23:42,797 --> 00:23:44,799
- [hissing]
- Father...
630
00:23:44,841 --> 00:23:47,218
- [growling]
- Also, Danny Boyle
631
00:23:47,260 --> 00:23:48,803
was commenting on, uh,
632
00:23:48,845 --> 00:23:51,139
the rage that he saw
in society.
633
00:23:51,181 --> 00:23:53,308
Road rage,
people fighting on line
634
00:23:53,350 --> 00:23:54,684
in the supermarkets...
635
00:23:54,726 --> 00:23:56,603
[grunts]
636
00:23:56,645 --> 00:23:59,564
He envisioned a zombie story
that took advantage
637
00:23:59,606 --> 00:24:02,317
of this psychological virus
638
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,611
that could be unleashed
and have, like,
639
00:24:04,653 --> 00:24:06,780
a zombie effect on people.
640
00:24:06,821 --> 00:24:09,157
[tense music]
641
00:24:09,199 --> 00:24:10,951
There was one big difference
642
00:24:10,992 --> 00:24:13,328
between George Romero's'
zombies and the infected
643
00:24:13,370 --> 00:24:15,580
in "28 Days Later":
644
00:24:15,622 --> 00:24:17,290
these zombies were fast.
645
00:24:17,332 --> 00:24:20,627
People talked about sort of
the next quantum leap
646
00:24:20,669 --> 00:24:22,796
in zombie movies...
647
00:24:23,838 --> 00:24:26,675
As "28 Days Later"
'cause it had running zombies.
648
00:24:26,716 --> 00:24:28,468
Even though there were
running infected
649
00:24:28,510 --> 00:24:30,595
in Umberto Lenzi's
"Nightmare City" from 1980.
650
00:24:30,637 --> 00:24:31,930
[laughing]
651
00:24:31,972 --> 00:24:34,849
[indistinct shouting]
652
00:24:35,767 --> 00:24:37,852
I'm a slow zombie guy.
653
00:24:37,894 --> 00:24:39,646
- [shouting]
- Not that I don't like
654
00:24:39,688 --> 00:24:41,690
- a good fast zombie movie.
- Somebody!
655
00:24:41,731 --> 00:24:43,525
Uh, I loved "28 Days Later."
656
00:24:43,566 --> 00:24:45,026
Yes, I know.
657
00:24:45,068 --> 00:24:47,487
They're not technically dead.
658
00:24:47,529 --> 00:24:49,197
They are rage virus.
659
00:24:49,239 --> 00:24:51,074
- I get that.
- [hissing]
660
00:24:51,116 --> 00:24:52,951
[zombies growling]
661
00:24:52,993 --> 00:24:55,328
If I can make a criticism
of running zombies, it's this:
662
00:24:55,370 --> 00:24:56,997
It's that running zombies
generally...
663
00:24:57,038 --> 00:24:58,665
there's kind of like
a fitness level.
664
00:24:58,707 --> 00:25:00,709
If you look at the zombies
in "28 Days Later,"
665
00:25:00,750 --> 00:25:03,253
they're nearly always, like,
sort of fit.
666
00:25:03,294 --> 00:25:06,131
You know, like they're in
like a sneakers commercial.
667
00:25:06,172 --> 00:25:08,967
[laughing]
[zombies shouting]
668
00:25:09,009 --> 00:25:11,594
When you increase the speed,
the people that lose out
669
00:25:11,636 --> 00:25:14,097
are the old zombies,
and the overweight zombies,
670
00:25:14,139 --> 00:25:16,391
and the little kid zombies,
and I would rather have
671
00:25:16,433 --> 00:25:18,476
a more inclusive range
of zombies.
672
00:25:18,518 --> 00:25:20,687
[eerie music]
673
00:25:20,729 --> 00:25:23,815
Zombies that are slow are
infinitely more terrifying.
674
00:25:23,857 --> 00:25:25,209
It's the difference between
getting shot
675
00:25:25,233 --> 00:25:27,819
and getting cancer.
[crowd shouting]
676
00:25:27,861 --> 00:25:30,905
You get killed by, say,
a fast zombie
677
00:25:30,947 --> 00:25:34,325
in the "World War Z" movie
or "28 Days Later,"
678
00:25:34,367 --> 00:25:36,036
you're dead
before you know it.
679
00:25:36,077 --> 00:25:37,954
[zombies growling]
Happens too fast.
680
00:25:37,996 --> 00:25:39,831
♪♪
681
00:25:39,873 --> 00:25:41,666
But the slow zombie...
682
00:25:41,708 --> 00:25:43,960
the zombie that gives you
time to think...
683
00:25:44,002 --> 00:25:47,338
allows you to visualize
your own death...
684
00:25:47,380 --> 00:25:49,966
[zombies growling]
685
00:25:51,384 --> 00:25:53,303
And that is one
of the darker elements
686
00:25:53,344 --> 00:25:55,305
of the human mind.
687
00:25:55,346 --> 00:25:56,890
- Fast or slow...
- [growling]
688
00:25:56,931 --> 00:25:58,767
Zombies are usually created
689
00:25:58,808 --> 00:26:01,728
by accidental radiation leaks
or rogue viruses.
690
00:26:01,770 --> 00:26:03,813
[growling, babbling]
691
00:26:03,855 --> 00:26:05,690
But there is another kind
of zombie:
692
00:26:05,732 --> 00:26:08,193
The deliberately
reanimated corpse,
693
00:26:08,234 --> 00:26:09,903
like Frankenstein's monster.
694
00:26:09,944 --> 00:26:12,030
- Alive!
- Created by Mary Shelley
695
00:26:12,072 --> 00:26:15,033
in 1818,
Frankenstein's monster
696
00:26:15,075 --> 00:26:17,827
is the most famous member
of the walking dead.
697
00:26:17,869 --> 00:26:19,579
Frankenstein's monster
698
00:26:19,621 --> 00:26:21,581
is a zombie for sure.
699
00:26:21,623 --> 00:26:23,291
In the novel, he's just a...
700
00:26:23,333 --> 00:26:26,920
a zombie that can talk
way too much.
701
00:26:26,961 --> 00:26:28,630
As a kid,
I really felt connected
702
00:26:28,671 --> 00:26:30,256
to Frankenstein's monster,
not so much
703
00:26:30,298 --> 00:26:31,591
to Frankenstein himself.
704
00:26:31,633 --> 00:26:33,384
I think that goes for a lot
705
00:26:33,426 --> 00:26:35,345
of those
original horror classics.
706
00:26:35,386 --> 00:26:37,472
Those characters
are sort of stand-ins
707
00:26:37,514 --> 00:26:40,141
for people that are
on the fringe of society
708
00:26:40,183 --> 00:26:41,893
or castaways... cast outs.
709
00:26:41,935 --> 00:26:44,395
[crowd shouting]
710
00:26:44,437 --> 00:26:46,397
Boris Karloff's
Frankenstein
711
00:26:46,439 --> 00:26:48,233
is still
the definitive version
712
00:26:48,274 --> 00:26:49,818
of this monster.
713
00:26:49,859 --> 00:26:51,528
Its direct descendant
714
00:26:51,569 --> 00:26:54,322
is "H.P. Lovecraft's
Re-Animator."
715
00:26:54,364 --> 00:26:56,241
With "Re-Animator,"
716
00:26:56,282 --> 00:26:59,202
director Stuart Gordon
reimagined the zombie film
717
00:26:59,244 --> 00:27:01,955
as a wildly transgressive
horror comedy.
718
00:27:01,996 --> 00:27:03,540
[dark music]
719
00:27:03,581 --> 00:27:06,000
I remember I went to a...
like a... a bunch of kids
720
00:27:06,042 --> 00:27:08,062
were hanging out at a house
like have... having a party
721
00:27:08,086 --> 00:27:09,754
and they watched
"Breakfast Club,"
722
00:27:09,796 --> 00:27:12,423
and I was never... I had never
been so bored in a movie.
723
00:27:12,465 --> 00:27:14,592
I was just, like, waiting
for something to happen.
724
00:27:14,634 --> 00:27:16,278
- Somebody gets the hot potato.
- Something.
725
00:27:16,302 --> 00:27:17,822
And I was like, "I have
a much better movie."
726
00:27:17,846 --> 00:27:19,115
- And I put on "Re-Animator..."
- [laughing]
727
00:27:19,139 --> 00:27:20,407
And the whole party
cleared out.
728
00:27:20,431 --> 00:27:22,392
- [wailing]
- [screaming]
729
00:27:22,433 --> 00:27:25,061
[both screaming]
730
00:27:25,103 --> 00:27:27,313
Well, the film
is about medical students
731
00:27:27,355 --> 00:27:29,357
who find a way to bring
the dead back to life.
732
00:27:29,399 --> 00:27:31,192
Particularly,
there's this one genius,
733
00:27:31,234 --> 00:27:34,404
Herbert West...
he's developed a serum which,
734
00:27:34,445 --> 00:27:37,574
when it's injected
into a dead body, revives it.
735
00:27:37,615 --> 00:27:40,326
[screaming]
736
00:27:40,368 --> 00:27:43,121
But the dead
are never very grateful.
737
00:27:43,163 --> 00:27:45,415
- [growling]
- [choking]
738
00:27:45,456 --> 00:27:48,710
What was great about
Stuart Gordon's take on it...
739
00:27:48,751 --> 00:27:50,670
he put a really interesting
sense of humor
740
00:27:50,712 --> 00:27:52,213
in the whole thing.
741
00:27:53,882 --> 00:27:56,134
- [growls]
- 'Cause you can look
742
00:27:56,176 --> 00:27:57,778
- at "Re-Animator" as a comedy.
- You'll never get credit
743
00:27:57,802 --> 00:27:59,220
for my discovery.
744
00:27:59,262 --> 00:28:00,698
Who's going to believe
a talking head?
745
00:28:00,722 --> 00:28:02,432
Get a job in a sideshow.
746
00:28:02,473 --> 00:28:04,601
"Re-Animator"
was like nothing
747
00:28:04,642 --> 00:28:07,478
I had seen before...
like nothing anyone
748
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,982
had seen before...
and the audacity of it
749
00:28:11,024 --> 00:28:13,067
is what makes it
so powerful.
750
00:28:13,109 --> 00:28:16,070
[dark music]
751
00:28:16,112 --> 00:28:19,240
♪♪
752
00:28:19,282 --> 00:28:20,909
Boy, that's a sick picture.
753
00:28:20,950 --> 00:28:22,994
Really transgressive.
754
00:28:23,036 --> 00:28:25,788
Got a lot of crawling hands
and heads rolling around
755
00:28:25,830 --> 00:28:28,750
- like bowling balls.
- [growling]
756
00:28:28,791 --> 00:28:30,793
You should not be
censoring yourself.
757
00:28:30,835 --> 00:28:32,587
[drill whirring]
758
00:28:32,629 --> 00:28:33,814
You know, they'll be doing
everything they can
759
00:28:33,838 --> 00:28:34,964
to censor you.
760
00:28:35,006 --> 00:28:36,591
You should not give them
an inch.
761
00:28:36,633 --> 00:28:38,301
[drill whirring]
762
00:28:38,343 --> 00:28:40,220
♪♪
763
00:28:40,261 --> 00:28:42,281
"Re-Animator's" fun.
I don't know what it's about,
764
00:28:42,305 --> 00:28:44,015
like, that... I don't know
that it's about
765
00:28:44,057 --> 00:28:46,351
any big ideas whatsoever,
766
00:28:46,392 --> 00:28:48,436
except that it would be fun
to keep heads alive
767
00:28:48,478 --> 00:28:50,980
- in a basket.
- It's about conquering death.
768
00:28:51,022 --> 00:28:53,274
- That's really what it's about.
- [snarling]
769
00:28:53,316 --> 00:28:54,692
[screaming]
770
00:28:54,734 --> 00:28:57,153
- [grunts]
- My father passed away
771
00:28:57,195 --> 00:28:59,405
when I was 14 years old,
772
00:28:59,447 --> 00:29:02,742
and I think that
that was the hook for me.
773
00:29:02,784 --> 00:29:04,494
People always say,
"If you could
774
00:29:04,535 --> 00:29:06,788
bring anybody back's life,
who would it be?"
775
00:29:06,829 --> 00:29:09,540
In my case, it's a...
it's a no-brainer:
776
00:29:09,582 --> 00:29:12,085
It would be my father.
777
00:29:12,126 --> 00:29:13,711
- [screams]
- [wails]
778
00:29:13,753 --> 00:29:16,005
When you look at
most horror movies, I think,
779
00:29:16,047 --> 00:29:18,508
they're about
an impossible dream.
780
00:29:18,549 --> 00:29:20,927
In 1985, "Re-Animator"
781
00:29:20,969 --> 00:29:23,346
and Dan O'Bannon's
"Return of the Living Dead"
782
00:29:23,388 --> 00:29:26,057
explored the comic frontiers
of the zombie genre.
783
00:29:26,099 --> 00:29:27,099
♪♪
784
00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:29,018
Brains!
785
00:29:29,060 --> 00:29:31,729
That same year,
the king of the zombies...
786
00:29:31,771 --> 00:29:35,233
George Romero... was crafting
a much darker film,
787
00:29:35,275 --> 00:29:37,318
what he hoped would be
the zombie film
788
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,571
to end all zombie films:
"Day of the Dead."
789
00:29:40,613 --> 00:29:42,615
"Day of the Dead"
was intended
790
00:29:42,657 --> 00:29:45,618
to be George Romero's
$10 million opus.
791
00:29:45,660 --> 00:29:47,537
[dramatic music]
792
00:29:50,623 --> 00:29:51,666
- No...
- George Romero's
793
00:29:51,708 --> 00:29:53,376
first two zombie films
794
00:29:53,418 --> 00:29:54,836
invented a new kind
of monster...
795
00:29:54,877 --> 00:29:56,546
- [shrieking]
- And a new metaphor
796
00:29:56,587 --> 00:29:57,672
for life in America.
797
00:29:57,714 --> 00:30:00,300
One, two, three, go.
798
00:30:00,341 --> 00:30:02,218
[gunshots]
799
00:30:02,260 --> 00:30:04,137
By 1985, he was making
800
00:30:04,178 --> 00:30:06,764
what he hoped would be
his ultimate statement,
801
00:30:06,806 --> 00:30:08,933
a zombie film that combined
802
00:30:08,975 --> 00:30:11,019
incredibly realistic
special effects
803
00:30:11,060 --> 00:30:12,270
with a powerful message.
804
00:30:12,312 --> 00:30:13,479
- [screaming]
- [wailing]
805
00:30:13,521 --> 00:30:15,231
[zombies growling]
806
00:30:15,273 --> 00:30:17,859
The message
of the Reagan era was...
807
00:30:17,900 --> 00:30:21,154
no more war on poverty,
no more war on crime,
808
00:30:21,195 --> 00:30:24,449
no more war
on racial segregation.
809
00:30:24,490 --> 00:30:25,742
Uh, screw it.
810
00:30:25,783 --> 00:30:27,994
[zombies shouting]
811
00:30:28,036 --> 00:30:29,412
We've lost.
There's more of them
812
00:30:29,454 --> 00:30:31,205
than there are of us,
so you need to retreat
813
00:30:31,247 --> 00:30:34,542
into your protective enclaves
and husband your resources.
814
00:30:34,584 --> 00:30:36,294
And that's exactly
what our characters do.
815
00:30:36,336 --> 00:30:40,006
- You must listen!
- Listen to this.
816
00:30:44,761 --> 00:30:46,721
[dramatic music]
817
00:30:46,763 --> 00:30:48,806
In "Day of the Dead," we see
the military rule,
818
00:30:48,848 --> 00:30:51,100
- and that's even scarier.
- I'm running
819
00:30:51,142 --> 00:30:53,227
this monkey farm now,
Frankenstein,
820
00:30:53,269 --> 00:30:55,772
and I want to know
what the [bleep]
821
00:30:55,813 --> 00:30:58,107
you're doing with my time!
822
00:30:58,149 --> 00:31:00,026
A bunch of people
who are trying to do good
823
00:31:00,068 --> 00:31:01,652
and find a cure
are being ruled
824
00:31:01,694 --> 00:31:04,906
by this military presence
that is very aggressive
825
00:31:04,947 --> 00:31:08,242
and will do anything it takes
to preserve itself,
826
00:31:08,284 --> 00:31:09,994
so that's terrifying as well.
827
00:31:10,036 --> 00:31:11,621
[electrical zapping]
828
00:31:11,662 --> 00:31:13,307
The zombies are
in some ways, you know...
829
00:31:13,331 --> 00:31:15,375
the ones who are being
experimented upon...
830
00:31:15,416 --> 00:31:17,919
kind of more sympathetic
than many of the humans.
831
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,253
[zombies groaning]
832
00:31:19,295 --> 00:31:21,589
Rhodes!
833
00:31:21,631 --> 00:31:24,384
In "Dawn of the Dead,"
we're losing.
834
00:31:24,425 --> 00:31:26,177
In "Day of the Dead,"
we've lost.
835
00:31:26,219 --> 00:31:28,971
Most good directors
that really have a grasp
836
00:31:29,013 --> 00:31:30,681
on the medium
can do horror.
837
00:31:30,723 --> 00:31:32,809
- It's not as delicate as humor.
- Mm.
838
00:31:32,850 --> 00:31:34,185
It's not as delicate.
839
00:31:34,227 --> 00:31:35,371
Uh, there are some tricks
of the trade
840
00:31:35,395 --> 00:31:37,146
that you can apply.
841
00:31:37,188 --> 00:31:39,065
Like his other zombie films,
842
00:31:39,107 --> 00:31:41,984
"Day of the Dead" was shot
in Romero's hometown
843
00:31:42,026 --> 00:31:44,278
of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,
844
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,614
far outside
of the Hollywood system.
845
00:31:46,656 --> 00:31:49,117
But that's what made...
846
00:31:49,158 --> 00:31:51,202
George Romero...
847
00:31:51,244 --> 00:31:52,912
such a terrific filmmaker,
848
00:31:52,954 --> 00:31:56,332
was that he was a legit,
regional filmmaker,
849
00:31:56,374 --> 00:31:58,960
and what made it special
850
00:31:59,001 --> 00:32:01,546
was the slightly
homemade quality
851
00:32:01,587 --> 00:32:03,339
to the movies.
852
00:32:03,381 --> 00:32:06,426
Everywhere that he would go
in Pittsburgh,
853
00:32:06,467 --> 00:32:08,302
you knew somebody
that was a zombie.
854
00:32:08,344 --> 00:32:10,263
You knew somebody
that was involved
855
00:32:10,304 --> 00:32:12,056
with George Romero's movies,
856
00:32:12,098 --> 00:32:13,808
and that's how I got
into the business.
857
00:32:13,850 --> 00:32:16,352
Because when "Day of the Dead"
came along,
858
00:32:16,394 --> 00:32:18,813
I had befriended George
859
00:32:18,855 --> 00:32:20,791
because of some mutual
family friends, and he's like,
860
00:32:20,815 --> 00:32:22,126
"Hey, I'm doing a sequel
to 'Dawn of the Dead.'
861
00:32:22,150 --> 00:32:23,818
Do you want a job?"
I'm like...
862
00:32:23,860 --> 00:32:25,963
"I was gonna be a doctor,
but this sounds way better."
863
00:32:25,987 --> 00:32:29,115
[suspenseful music]
864
00:32:29,157 --> 00:32:31,534
And this is where
George Romero
865
00:32:31,576 --> 00:32:34,412
and Tom Savini...
arguably their creative peaks
866
00:32:34,454 --> 00:32:37,457
at the same time,
working together.
867
00:32:37,498 --> 00:32:39,500
Special effects artists
like Rick Baker
868
00:32:39,542 --> 00:32:42,253
and Tom Savini were heralded
869
00:32:42,295 --> 00:32:44,464
as, like, kings and icons
of the horror film
870
00:32:44,505 --> 00:32:45,983
because they were creating
special effects
871
00:32:46,007 --> 00:32:47,508
that were out of this world.
872
00:32:47,550 --> 00:32:49,844
Like something
we'd never seen before.
873
00:32:49,886 --> 00:32:52,221
Vietnam was a lesson
in anatomy for me.
874
00:32:52,263 --> 00:32:54,182
I was a combat photographer.
875
00:32:54,223 --> 00:32:55,892
I saw horrible stuff.
876
00:32:55,933 --> 00:32:57,578
In fact, I'm the only
make-up artist, I think,
877
00:32:57,602 --> 00:32:59,770
- that has seen the real stuff.
- [screaming]
878
00:32:59,812 --> 00:33:01,439
- [shrieking]
- In a movie,
879
00:33:01,481 --> 00:33:04,650
when someone dies
they close their mouth
880
00:33:04,692 --> 00:33:06,086
and they wanna look pretty
for the camera...
881
00:33:06,110 --> 00:33:07,652
[funereal music]
882
00:33:07,653 --> 00:33:09,697
And that just takes me
right out of it,
883
00:33:09,739 --> 00:33:11,800
because that actor doesn't
know how to portray death,
884
00:33:11,824 --> 00:33:14,368
or the director doesn't know
to tell them...
885
00:33:14,410 --> 00:33:16,704
the mouth always goes slack.
886
00:33:16,746 --> 00:33:18,873
[dark music]
887
00:33:18,915 --> 00:33:21,000
My masterpiece
is "Day of the Dead."
888
00:33:21,042 --> 00:33:23,669
♪♪
889
00:33:23,711 --> 00:33:25,755
[moaning]
890
00:33:25,796 --> 00:33:28,216
There a lot of cool stuff
in, uh... in "Day of the Dead."
891
00:33:28,257 --> 00:33:29,550
♪♪
892
00:33:29,592 --> 00:33:31,135
We cut the guy's arm off,
you know.
893
00:33:31,177 --> 00:33:32,929
I dug a hole under the guy
894
00:33:32,970 --> 00:33:34,805
so his real arm goes
into the hole.
895
00:33:34,847 --> 00:33:36,974
♪♪
896
00:33:37,016 --> 00:33:38,768
And tearing Taso's head off...
897
00:33:38,809 --> 00:33:40,394
[screaming]
898
00:33:40,436 --> 00:33:43,189
And it's actually
Greg Nicotero's fingers
899
00:33:43,231 --> 00:33:45,191
in the eyeballs
of the fake head,
900
00:33:45,233 --> 00:33:46,609
and we're running cables down
901
00:33:46,651 --> 00:33:48,110
to make the head work,
you know,
902
00:33:48,152 --> 00:33:49,862
so it was effects guys
903
00:33:49,904 --> 00:33:52,323
that were the featured zombies
tearing the head off.
904
00:33:52,365 --> 00:33:53,824
My head comes back
905
00:33:53,866 --> 00:33:55,993
as a zombie head
in "Day of the Dead."
906
00:33:56,035 --> 00:33:58,412
You gotta think about the way
that Tom designed things,
907
00:33:58,454 --> 00:33:59,681
because he approached
everything
908
00:33:59,705 --> 00:34:01,249
like it was a magic trick.
909
00:34:01,290 --> 00:34:03,018
You know, the idea
that you're... you're taking
910
00:34:03,042 --> 00:34:06,045
a special effect
and you're deconstructing it
911
00:34:06,087 --> 00:34:09,090
to the point where it's gotta
be a magic trick that's gonna
912
00:34:09,131 --> 00:34:11,050
- fool the audience.
- The disembowelments
913
00:34:11,092 --> 00:34:12,593
in "Day of the Dead"
are unmatched.
914
00:34:12,635 --> 00:34:14,720
- [zombies groaning]
- [gasping]
915
00:34:14,762 --> 00:34:16,847
Without a doubt,
and that's why you get into...
916
00:34:16,889 --> 00:34:19,892
people who... who watch movies
and get... get offended
917
00:34:19,934 --> 00:34:21,644
by the... the gore,
and you're like,
918
00:34:21,686 --> 00:34:23,896
"Well, you know
it's corn syrup..."
919
00:34:23,938 --> 00:34:25,457
- It's a real presentation.
- Red powered...
920
00:34:25,481 --> 00:34:26,899
red powdered food coloring.
921
00:34:26,941 --> 00:34:28,651
Miller!
922
00:34:28,693 --> 00:34:30,570
- Miller!
- [screaming]
923
00:34:30,611 --> 00:34:33,990
The special makeup effects
pioneered by Tom Savini
924
00:34:34,031 --> 00:34:35,992
and Greg Nicotero
on "Day of the Dead"...
925
00:34:36,033 --> 00:34:37,618
- [growling]
- Led directly
926
00:34:37,660 --> 00:34:39,495
to the amazing work
we see today
927
00:34:39,537 --> 00:34:41,956
on "The Walking Dead."
928
00:34:41,998 --> 00:34:44,542
The kind of household
I grew up in was, you know,
929
00:34:44,584 --> 00:34:46,168
"Oh, you can't go see
'Day of the Dead.'
930
00:34:46,210 --> 00:34:47,712
That's too... that's too much."
931
00:34:47,753 --> 00:34:50,047
But now you see, uh,
932
00:34:50,089 --> 00:34:53,217
the level of gore that we saw
in George Romero's, uh,
933
00:34:53,259 --> 00:34:56,012
"Day of the Dead"
on "Walking Dead" every week,
934
00:34:56,053 --> 00:34:57,555
which is insane to me.
935
00:34:57,597 --> 00:34:59,015
[sinister music]
936
00:35:01,892 --> 00:35:03,394
[engine revving]
937
00:35:03,436 --> 00:35:05,313
[tense music]
938
00:35:05,354 --> 00:35:07,565
[zombies growling]
939
00:35:07,607 --> 00:35:09,317
♪♪
940
00:35:09,358 --> 00:35:11,152
Go to the left!
941
00:35:11,193 --> 00:35:12,695
♪♪
942
00:35:12,737 --> 00:35:14,739
In the wake
of a zombie apocalypse,
943
00:35:14,780 --> 00:35:16,532
a small band of survivors
944
00:35:16,574 --> 00:35:19,160
look for a safe place to live.
945
00:35:19,201 --> 00:35:21,829
The biggest threat they face
aren't zombies,
946
00:35:21,871 --> 00:35:24,040
but other people.
947
00:35:24,081 --> 00:35:26,917
This is the premise
of "The Walking Dead,"
948
00:35:26,959 --> 00:35:29,879
the TV series that brought
realistic horror
949
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,048
to the small screen.
950
00:35:32,089 --> 00:35:33,758
[door creaking]
951
00:35:33,799 --> 00:35:36,385
[snarling]
952
00:35:36,427 --> 00:35:38,280
People used to come to me
and say, "Can you make us
953
00:35:38,304 --> 00:35:40,014
a violent TV series?"
954
00:35:40,056 --> 00:35:41,783
And I'd say, "Well,
what makes horror work is you...
955
00:35:41,807 --> 00:35:43,535
"is you have the threat
of killing your characters,
956
00:35:43,559 --> 00:35:46,103
"and what TV... what makes TV
work is you want to see
957
00:35:46,145 --> 00:35:47,813
- those characters every week..."
- Right.
958
00:35:47,855 --> 00:35:49,458
So you can't have them
almost die, and I could never
959
00:35:49,482 --> 00:35:50,667
- do the violence I wanted to do.
- Yeah, yeah.
960
00:35:50,691 --> 00:35:52,151
- Cut to...
- Here we are.
961
00:35:52,193 --> 00:35:53,944
Greg Nicotero
and "The Walking Dead."
962
00:35:53,986 --> 00:35:56,947
[dramatic music]
963
00:35:56,989 --> 00:35:58,074
♪♪
964
00:35:58,115 --> 00:35:59,909
"The Walking Dead" for sure
965
00:35:59,950 --> 00:36:03,079
is the next
cultural milestone
966
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,265
really since "Dawn of the Dead"
and "Night of the Living Dead."
967
00:36:05,289 --> 00:36:07,208
And, you know,
that's really been you.
968
00:36:07,249 --> 00:36:08,876
[hooves clattering]
969
00:36:08,918 --> 00:36:11,837
"Walking Dead"
is basically a Western with...
970
00:36:11,879 --> 00:36:13,839
with the zombie, uh,
apocalypse
971
00:36:13,881 --> 00:36:15,466
set as the backdrop.
972
00:36:15,508 --> 00:36:18,010
If "The Walking Dead"
had to be told
973
00:36:18,052 --> 00:36:20,680
in a 2½ hour time slot,
you'd never be able to do it.
974
00:36:20,721 --> 00:36:22,199
You wouldn't care
about the characters.
975
00:36:22,223 --> 00:36:23,700
You wouldn't really know
who Daryl is...
976
00:36:23,724 --> 00:36:25,226
- Yeah.
- Who... who Rick is.
977
00:36:25,267 --> 00:36:27,186
I'm sorry
this happened to you.
978
00:36:27,228 --> 00:36:29,063
[growling]
979
00:36:29,105 --> 00:36:31,857
The plight of the survivors
is a dark reflection
980
00:36:31,899 --> 00:36:34,318
of life in America today.
981
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,613
The mortgage crisis of 2008
resulted in more than
982
00:36:37,655 --> 00:36:39,657
3 million people
losing their homes.
983
00:36:39,699 --> 00:36:41,701
Problems with
the housing market...
984
00:36:41,742 --> 00:36:44,412
Since then,
rising housing prices
985
00:36:44,453 --> 00:36:46,497
in the major cities
have forced more people
986
00:36:46,539 --> 00:36:49,083
- to live on the street.
- Global meltdown.
987
00:36:49,125 --> 00:36:51,502
There's a sense
that civilization is fragile.
988
00:36:51,544 --> 00:36:53,170
That any day now,
989
00:36:53,212 --> 00:36:56,298
we could be like Rick,
Daryl, and Carol,
990
00:36:56,340 --> 00:36:57,883
always moving,
991
00:36:57,925 --> 00:37:00,344
surrounded by threats
on every side.
992
00:37:00,386 --> 00:37:03,222
[zombies snarling]
993
00:37:03,264 --> 00:37:04,950
That's what I always loved...
when "Walking Dead" came out,
994
00:37:04,974 --> 00:37:06,910
I would say to people, like,
"If the zombie apocalypse
995
00:37:06,934 --> 00:37:08,686
"were real,
this is the closest thing
996
00:37:08,728 --> 00:37:11,689
"that I've seen to what
that would probably feel like
997
00:37:11,731 --> 00:37:13,315
and be like."
998
00:37:13,357 --> 00:37:16,068
When I first read
that script, I didn't...
999
00:37:16,110 --> 00:37:18,195
you know, I didn't read it
as a zombie thing.
1000
00:37:18,237 --> 00:37:20,030
I read it as this guy
lost his family,
1001
00:37:20,072 --> 00:37:21,675
and he woke up, and he didn't
know where he was.
1002
00:37:21,699 --> 00:37:23,491
And he was gonna do anything
1003
00:37:23,492 --> 00:37:25,120
to go find his family,
and that's...
1004
00:37:25,161 --> 00:37:27,455
that stuck out on the page
way more than a zombie
1005
00:37:27,496 --> 00:37:28,998
here and there, you know?
1006
00:37:29,039 --> 00:37:30,499
And everybody
played it like that.
1007
00:37:30,541 --> 00:37:32,209
[somber music]
1008
00:37:32,251 --> 00:37:34,295
You have to play everything
as real as possible.
1009
00:37:34,336 --> 00:37:36,213
- [snarling]
- [indistinct]
1010
00:37:36,255 --> 00:37:37,858
There's so many examples
on that show where, like...
1011
00:37:37,882 --> 00:37:39,109
You're like, "Oh, my God,
is this gonna work?"
1012
00:37:39,133 --> 00:37:40,634
- And the actors...
- No, no, no!
1013
00:37:40,676 --> 00:37:42,678
Just pulled it out
and made it perfect.
1014
00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:45,014
[screaming]
No!
1015
00:37:45,055 --> 00:37:47,683
- [grunts]
- She was playing with me!
1016
00:37:47,725 --> 00:37:50,311
- She wanted a friend!
- She wanted to kill you!
1017
00:37:50,352 --> 00:37:52,480
I was gonna lead her away!
1018
00:37:52,521 --> 00:37:54,249
- You could have died.
- It's the same thing!
1019
00:37:54,273 --> 00:37:56,734
You killed her!
You killed her!
1020
00:37:56,776 --> 00:37:58,044
There's a reason
there wasn't really
1021
00:37:58,068 --> 00:38:00,654
a zombie TV show before.
1022
00:38:00,696 --> 00:38:02,281
[dark music]
1023
00:38:02,323 --> 00:38:03,908
- Ugh...
- Effects need
1024
00:38:03,949 --> 00:38:05,659
to be really good
on a television show
1025
00:38:05,701 --> 00:38:08,287
so that people don't fall out
of the reality
1026
00:38:08,329 --> 00:38:10,664
that you're trying to sell.
1027
00:38:10,706 --> 00:38:12,958
The best zombies, I think,
are what Greg is doing
1028
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,960
in "The Walking Dead."
The best zombies today.
1029
00:38:15,002 --> 00:38:16,837
Uh, and there's a lot
of CGI there, you know,
1030
00:38:16,879 --> 00:38:19,924
and necessary,
because the zombies
1031
00:38:19,965 --> 00:38:21,759
have been around for so long,
1032
00:38:21,801 --> 00:38:25,054
now they're decaying
and rotting, you know?
1033
00:38:25,095 --> 00:38:26,931
- [gagging]
- Just a little more.
1034
00:38:26,972 --> 00:38:28,891
- [gurgling]
- There's that one famous...
1035
00:38:28,933 --> 00:38:30,976
- the "well walker..."
- Stop!
1036
00:38:31,018 --> 00:38:32,520
- Come on!
- Where he's just
1037
00:38:32,561 --> 00:38:34,188
so waterlogged and bloated
1038
00:38:34,230 --> 00:38:36,315
that he just sort of, like,
comes apart.
1039
00:38:36,357 --> 00:38:38,317
- [all grunting]
- [gurgling]
1040
00:38:38,359 --> 00:38:43,906
♪♪
1041
00:38:43,948 --> 00:38:45,658
That's one
of the beautiful things
1042
00:38:45,699 --> 00:38:48,869
that Greg does, is his team...
1043
00:38:48,911 --> 00:38:51,163
you can see the lost person
1044
00:38:51,205 --> 00:38:52,832
behind the monster, you know?
1045
00:38:52,873 --> 00:38:54,750
That's... that's when
they become scary.
1046
00:38:54,792 --> 00:38:57,586
I never get sick of it,
honestly.
1047
00:38:57,628 --> 00:38:59,189
They keep... they keep
reinventing the wheel
1048
00:38:59,213 --> 00:39:01,423
- with the zombies, it's nuts.
- [growling]
1049
00:39:01,465 --> 00:39:03,843
♪♪
1050
00:39:03,884 --> 00:39:06,846
Obviously the... the irony is,
who are the walking dead?
1051
00:39:06,887 --> 00:39:08,973
Is it the actual zombies
or is the people?
1052
00:39:09,014 --> 00:39:10,575
- Right, right.
- Uh, what are they willing
1053
00:39:10,599 --> 00:39:12,226
to do to each other to survive?
1054
00:39:12,268 --> 00:39:13,537
- And that's...
- Yeah, at what point
1055
00:39:13,561 --> 00:39:15,437
- do you lose your humanity?
- Right.
1056
00:39:15,479 --> 00:39:17,982
"Walking Dead" being on
for so long surprises me,
1057
00:39:18,023 --> 00:39:21,277
'cause y'all should be dead
by now, man.
1058
00:39:21,318 --> 00:39:23,320
[snarling]
1059
00:39:23,362 --> 00:39:25,239
You know,
because it doesn't make sense.
1060
00:39:25,281 --> 00:39:27,283
- To me.
- [snarling]
1061
00:39:27,324 --> 00:39:29,159
[gasping, whimpering]
1062
00:39:29,201 --> 00:39:31,871
Doesn't it feel like zombies
are cresting now, too?
1063
00:39:31,912 --> 00:39:34,206
Yeah, right now it does
seem like we're in the middle
1064
00:39:34,248 --> 00:39:36,250
of a zombie apocalypse.
1065
00:39:36,292 --> 00:39:38,961
[procession chanting]
1066
00:39:39,003 --> 00:39:40,421
Yeah.
1067
00:39:40,462 --> 00:39:42,923
The dumbing down of society.
1068
00:39:46,010 --> 00:39:47,928
We're all zombies.
1069
00:39:47,970 --> 00:39:51,056
[zombies snarling]
1070
00:39:51,098 --> 00:39:52,892
Zombies are representative
1071
00:39:52,933 --> 00:39:54,894
of... of Alzheimer's...
1072
00:39:54,935 --> 00:39:56,478
a just terrifying disease.
1073
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,107
And zombies
are representatives of cancer.
1074
00:40:00,149 --> 00:40:02,026
To me, what's happened
with the zombie
1075
00:40:02,067 --> 00:40:04,320
is now they're representatives
of anarchy
1076
00:40:04,361 --> 00:40:06,405
and the collapse
of government.
1077
00:40:06,447 --> 00:40:08,407
The collapse of order.
1078
00:40:08,449 --> 00:40:10,326
[menacing music]
1079
00:40:10,367 --> 00:40:13,454
Zombies are really sort of
a wonderful catch-all metaphor
1080
00:40:13,495 --> 00:40:15,372
because they can mean
absolutely anything.
1081
00:40:15,414 --> 00:40:17,082
- [screaming]
- Zombies in 1968
1082
00:40:17,124 --> 00:40:19,251
are the breakdown
of American society.
1083
00:40:19,293 --> 00:40:20,711
[zombies groaning]
1084
00:40:20,753 --> 00:40:23,380
In 2017
with "The Walking Dead..."
1085
00:40:26,550 --> 00:40:29,929
uh, who knows
what it represents.
1086
00:40:29,970 --> 00:40:32,264
[zombies growling]
1087
00:40:35,517 --> 00:40:38,604
One take-away could be
that everything's hopeless...
1088
00:40:38,646 --> 00:40:40,564
[distant shouting]
1089
00:40:40,606 --> 00:40:42,066
[exclaims]
1090
00:40:42,107 --> 00:40:44,777
Another take-away could be
that humans
1091
00:40:44,818 --> 00:40:48,322
will always persevere
even when...
1092
00:40:48,364 --> 00:40:50,240
it seems like there's
no reason to
1093
00:40:50,282 --> 00:40:51,909
or that it's impossible to.
1094
00:40:51,951 --> 00:40:53,410
[gunfire]
1095
00:40:53,452 --> 00:40:54,995
[zombies snarling]
1096
00:40:55,037 --> 00:40:56,538
Yeah, zombies will never die.
1097
00:40:56,580 --> 00:40:58,082
No pun intended.
[laughing]
1098
00:40:58,123 --> 00:41:00,668
- [babbling]
- [screaming]
1099
00:41:00,709 --> 00:41:03,337
It's so interesting,
the resurgence of zombies,
1100
00:41:03,379 --> 00:41:05,714
and the fact that they kind of
won't ever go away.
1101
00:41:05,756 --> 00:41:08,092
[zombies snarling]
1102
00:41:08,133 --> 00:41:09,593
We'll always be
telling stories.
1103
00:41:09,635 --> 00:41:11,595
I think we'll...
we're never gonna lose
1104
00:41:11,637 --> 00:41:13,305
our fascination with them.
1105
00:41:13,347 --> 00:41:15,015
Half a century ago,
1106
00:41:15,057 --> 00:41:17,685
George Romero created
the modern zombie...
1107
00:41:17,726 --> 00:41:20,771
America's great contribution
to monster horror.
1108
00:41:20,813 --> 00:41:22,648
[sinister music]
1109
00:41:22,690 --> 00:41:25,693
Now, zombie movies are
an international phenomenon.
1110
00:41:25,734 --> 00:41:27,319
♪♪
1111
00:41:27,361 --> 00:41:29,738
The zombie plague
has infected the world.
1112
00:41:29,780 --> 00:41:31,323
- [screams]
- As relentless
1113
00:41:31,365 --> 00:41:33,158
and unstoppable
1114
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,452
as the flesh-eating undead.
1115
00:41:35,494 --> 00:41:42,376
♪♪
1116
00:41:42,418 --> 00:41:45,212
We wake them
and we got it all!
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