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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,162 WWW.MY-SUBS.CO 1 00:00:01,503 --> 00:00:04,589 [ominous music] 2 00:00:04,631 --> 00:00:06,341 The zombie is absolutely 3 00:00:06,382 --> 00:00:08,843 all-American horror metaphor. 4 00:00:08,885 --> 00:00:10,970 - [growling] - They are the monster 5 00:00:11,012 --> 00:00:13,056 of the 21st century. 6 00:00:13,097 --> 00:00:14,950 Right now it does seem like we're in the middle 7 00:00:14,974 --> 00:00:17,352 of a zombie apocalypse. 8 00:00:17,393 --> 00:00:19,479 We're getting our chance to exercise 9 00:00:19,521 --> 00:00:21,105 our most anti-social emotions. 10 00:00:21,147 --> 00:00:22,982 - [screaming] - You know, that... 11 00:00:23,024 --> 00:00:25,401 that mob impulse that's like, "Yeah, kill them all 12 00:00:25,443 --> 00:00:26,819 and let God sort them out." 13 00:00:26,861 --> 00:00:28,321 [zombies groaning] 14 00:00:28,363 --> 00:00:29,864 Eventually they overwhelm you. 15 00:00:29,906 --> 00:00:31,741 - They're not stopping to eat. - [screaming] 16 00:00:31,783 --> 00:00:33,326 Well, I mean, unless they're stopping 17 00:00:33,368 --> 00:00:35,745 - to eat one of you. - We're all gonna die. 18 00:00:35,787 --> 00:00:37,997 We all are gonna get cancer one day. 19 00:00:38,039 --> 00:00:39,916 We're all gonna get sick. 20 00:00:39,958 --> 00:00:43,836 It's almost like an accelerated version of that. 21 00:00:43,878 --> 00:00:46,214 We don't want zombies 22 00:00:46,256 --> 00:00:48,132 to come and destroy all of our friends 23 00:00:48,174 --> 00:00:50,260 and family and institutions... 24 00:00:50,301 --> 00:00:52,178 but on some level, maybe we do. 25 00:00:52,220 --> 00:00:55,098 Like, on some level it provides us a chance 26 00:00:55,139 --> 00:00:57,141 to just dismantle everything... 27 00:00:57,183 --> 00:00:59,227 [frantic music] 28 00:00:59,269 --> 00:01:01,104 And possibly start over. 29 00:01:01,145 --> 00:01:02,981 [screaming] 30 00:01:03,022 --> 00:01:06,025 What are humans like when faced with the end 31 00:01:06,067 --> 00:01:08,027 of humanity? 32 00:01:08,069 --> 00:01:09,529 What are they like when they're faced 33 00:01:09,571 --> 00:01:11,322 with very few choices 34 00:01:11,364 --> 00:01:14,534 in... in regards to how to survive? 35 00:01:14,576 --> 00:01:16,828 That's the horror of zombie movies. 36 00:01:16,869 --> 00:01:18,705 - No! - It's the wrong impulses 37 00:01:18,746 --> 00:01:21,583 that come out of people that are far more terrifying 38 00:01:21,624 --> 00:01:22,875 than the walking dead. 39 00:01:22,917 --> 00:01:24,794 [zombies growling, screeching] 40 00:01:24,836 --> 00:01:26,921 ♪♪ 41 00:01:26,963 --> 00:01:29,924 [sinister music] 42 00:01:29,966 --> 00:01:36,966 ♪♪ 43 00:01:54,115 --> 00:01:56,993 [foreboding music] 44 00:01:57,035 --> 00:01:58,453 I'm Eli Roth. 45 00:01:58,494 --> 00:02:00,246 [hissing] 46 00:02:00,288 --> 00:02:04,083 The history of horror is filled with monsters. 47 00:02:04,125 --> 00:02:05,960 Nightmare figures that tap 48 00:02:06,002 --> 00:02:08,338 into our deepest fears. 49 00:02:08,379 --> 00:02:10,465 ♪♪ 50 00:02:10,506 --> 00:02:13,009 But our fears, and our monsters, 51 00:02:13,051 --> 00:02:15,094 change with the times. 52 00:02:15,136 --> 00:02:17,347 ♪♪ 53 00:02:17,388 --> 00:02:20,016 Right now, it's the time of the zombie. 54 00:02:20,058 --> 00:02:22,143 [zombies growling, screeching] 55 00:02:22,185 --> 00:02:24,771 Fast zombies, slow zombies, 56 00:02:24,812 --> 00:02:27,565 comedy zombies, teen zombies... 57 00:02:27,607 --> 00:02:29,817 [screaming] 58 00:02:29,859 --> 00:02:31,277 Whatever their shape, 59 00:02:31,319 --> 00:02:34,197 zombies are everywhere. 60 00:02:34,238 --> 00:02:35,698 How did we get here? 61 00:02:35,740 --> 00:02:37,909 What set off zombie fever? 62 00:02:37,950 --> 00:02:39,410 As we'll see, 63 00:02:39,452 --> 00:02:41,496 zombies have been around for decades. 64 00:02:41,537 --> 00:02:43,498 [zombies hissing, growling] 65 00:02:43,539 --> 00:02:47,877 ♪♪ 66 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:49,712 But the debut of "The Walking Dead" 67 00:02:49,754 --> 00:02:52,173 in 2010 saw them explode 68 00:02:52,215 --> 00:02:55,093 - into popular culture. - [growling] 69 00:02:55,134 --> 00:02:58,096 To almost everyone's surprise, a horror series 70 00:02:58,137 --> 00:03:00,848 became the most popular show on television. 71 00:03:00,890 --> 00:03:03,017 ♪♪ 72 00:03:03,059 --> 00:03:05,186 My brother's kids... 73 00:03:05,228 --> 00:03:07,206 ten years old, five years... they watch "Walking Dead." 74 00:03:07,230 --> 00:03:09,190 [yells] 75 00:03:09,232 --> 00:03:11,359 Kids eight years old watch "Walking Dead." 76 00:03:11,401 --> 00:03:12,944 What is it about "Walking Dead" 77 00:03:12,985 --> 00:03:15,613 that zombies have become so, almost normalized 78 00:03:15,655 --> 00:03:17,407 - that kids love it. - [clears throat] 79 00:03:17,448 --> 00:03:19,218 They don't take it seriously. I think it's amazing. 80 00:03:19,242 --> 00:03:20,535 - Well... - "Walking Dead" plays 81 00:03:20,576 --> 00:03:21,720 - like a family show. - It's all about 82 00:03:21,744 --> 00:03:23,496 the characters. 83 00:03:23,538 --> 00:03:27,875 ♪♪ 84 00:03:27,917 --> 00:03:30,128 You can follow this group of people 85 00:03:30,169 --> 00:03:32,547 as they struggle to survive 86 00:03:32,588 --> 00:03:35,216 week after week after week after week. 87 00:03:35,258 --> 00:03:37,468 [hissing] 88 00:03:37,510 --> 00:03:39,011 ♪♪ 89 00:03:39,053 --> 00:03:41,013 You can see them live, you can see them die, 90 00:03:41,055 --> 00:03:43,266 you can see everything that they go through 91 00:03:43,307 --> 00:03:45,893 with the zombie apocalypse set as the backdrop. 92 00:03:45,935 --> 00:03:48,521 - [zombies growling] - [panting] 93 00:03:48,563 --> 00:03:50,898 Everybody wants to... 94 00:03:50,940 --> 00:03:52,942 think that they would be able to survive 95 00:03:52,984 --> 00:03:54,235 the zombie apocalypse. 96 00:03:54,277 --> 00:03:56,738 [grunting, exclaiming] 97 00:03:56,779 --> 00:03:59,282 You figure, "What would I do to survive?" 98 00:03:59,323 --> 00:04:01,868 Uh, because that is the crux of the show, 99 00:04:01,909 --> 00:04:04,120 ordinary people who all of a sudden 100 00:04:04,162 --> 00:04:06,831 are thrust into an extraordinary situation. 101 00:04:06,873 --> 00:04:09,083 which always give you some of the best drama. 102 00:04:09,125 --> 00:04:10,793 [zombie growling] 103 00:04:13,588 --> 00:04:15,023 Are you gonna fight for what you believe in? 104 00:04:15,047 --> 00:04:16,108 Are you gonna be the type of person 105 00:04:16,132 --> 00:04:17,633 that runs away from it? 106 00:04:17,675 --> 00:04:20,303 You know, there's no status and... and fame, 107 00:04:20,344 --> 00:04:22,013 and money, and uh, 108 00:04:22,054 --> 00:04:24,766 there's none of that bull[bleep]. 109 00:04:24,807 --> 00:04:27,393 The apocalyptic simulation is really an interesting 110 00:04:27,435 --> 00:04:29,437 sociological experiment about, you know, 111 00:04:29,479 --> 00:04:31,123 who do people become, and who would I become, 112 00:04:31,147 --> 00:04:33,566 and what would be okay if the rules weren't 113 00:04:33,608 --> 00:04:35,818 the same anymore? 114 00:04:35,860 --> 00:04:37,236 I want to be a Michonne... 115 00:04:37,278 --> 00:04:38,529 [zombies hissing] 116 00:04:38,571 --> 00:04:41,199 But I'm probably more of, um... 117 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,826 I don't know, a Eugene. [laughs] 118 00:04:43,868 --> 00:04:46,829 You got a name, ass[bleep]? 119 00:04:46,871 --> 00:04:48,915 Eugene. 120 00:04:48,956 --> 00:04:52,168 They're coming to get you, Barbara. 121 00:04:52,210 --> 00:04:54,587 Stop it! You're acting like a child. 122 00:04:54,629 --> 00:04:56,798 They're coming for you. 123 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,175 Look, there comes one of them now. 124 00:04:59,217 --> 00:05:02,136 Without George Romero and "Night of the Living Dead," 125 00:05:02,178 --> 00:05:04,639 there would be no "Walking Dead." 126 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,225 "Night of the Living Dead" laid the template 127 00:05:07,266 --> 00:05:10,061 for every zombie survival story that followed. 128 00:05:10,102 --> 00:05:11,687 It's a simple plot... 129 00:05:11,729 --> 00:05:13,981 six people trapped in a farmhouse 130 00:05:14,023 --> 00:05:16,818 surrounded by the flesh-eating undead... 131 00:05:16,859 --> 00:05:19,612 but it changed everything. 132 00:05:19,654 --> 00:05:21,697 You got to see the boundary pushed 133 00:05:21,739 --> 00:05:24,492 going from the 1950s creatures... 134 00:05:24,534 --> 00:05:27,161 the man in the rubber suit... to like, graphic viscera. 135 00:05:27,203 --> 00:05:28,680 - Mm-hmm. - What was it like seeing it 136 00:05:28,704 --> 00:05:30,289 pushed farther and farther? 137 00:05:30,331 --> 00:05:32,542 - [zombies growling] - I can remember just 138 00:05:32,583 --> 00:05:34,293 sort of wandering into a screening 139 00:05:34,335 --> 00:05:35,962 of "Night of the Living Dead." 140 00:05:36,003 --> 00:05:38,047 The whole place was full of kids... it was like 141 00:05:38,089 --> 00:05:40,967 a Saturday matinee... and they're all, you know, 142 00:05:41,008 --> 00:05:42,969 yelling and grab-assing around and throwing 143 00:05:43,010 --> 00:05:45,513 their popcorn boxes, and that thing got going 144 00:05:45,555 --> 00:05:48,683 and they just fell entirely silent. 145 00:05:48,724 --> 00:05:50,226 [zombie growling] 146 00:05:50,268 --> 00:05:52,979 - [weeping] - And I was scared, too. 147 00:05:53,020 --> 00:05:55,898 The first time that you see something like that, 148 00:05:55,940 --> 00:05:58,734 you're not prepared for what you're looking at. 149 00:05:58,776 --> 00:06:00,194 [sinister music] 150 00:06:00,236 --> 00:06:03,197 George Romero really creates the rules. 151 00:06:03,239 --> 00:06:05,133 I mean, the whole thing of, like, if you get bit, 152 00:06:05,157 --> 00:06:06,701 - you turned into one... - Yeah. 153 00:06:06,742 --> 00:06:08,494 Shoot them in the head... 154 00:06:08,536 --> 00:06:09,912 ♪♪ 155 00:06:09,954 --> 00:06:11,581 - That didn't exist before. - Those rules 156 00:06:11,622 --> 00:06:14,959 for the modern-day zombie were created 50 years ago. 157 00:06:15,001 --> 00:06:16,711 - By George Romero. - If I were surrounded 158 00:06:16,752 --> 00:06:18,522 by six or eight of these things, would I stand 159 00:06:18,546 --> 00:06:20,440 - a chance with them? - Well, there's no problem. 160 00:06:20,464 --> 00:06:22,024 If you had a gun, shoot 'em in the head. 161 00:06:22,049 --> 00:06:23,593 That's a sure way to kill 'em. 162 00:06:23,634 --> 00:06:25,469 If you don't, get yourself a club or a torch. 163 00:06:25,511 --> 00:06:27,597 Beat 'em or burn 'em. They go up pretty easy. 164 00:06:27,638 --> 00:06:29,265 ♪♪ 165 00:06:29,307 --> 00:06:31,893 It almost feels like the zombie movie... 166 00:06:31,934 --> 00:06:34,020 there's like a quantum leap that happens 167 00:06:34,061 --> 00:06:35,897 where there are different phases. 168 00:06:35,938 --> 00:06:38,566 Like the 1930s and '40s, it was the... 169 00:06:38,608 --> 00:06:40,693 "I Walked With a Zombie." It was "White Zombie." 170 00:06:40,735 --> 00:06:42,278 It was the hypnotist zombie. 171 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,155 It was a mad scientist on an island 172 00:06:44,196 --> 00:06:46,490 that has found a way to raise the dead 173 00:06:46,491 --> 00:06:48,577 - and enslave them. - A lot of zombie films 174 00:06:48,618 --> 00:06:51,162 were about people who had been just stripped 175 00:06:51,203 --> 00:06:54,165 of their identity and were slaves, almost. 176 00:06:54,206 --> 00:06:56,250 You know, they could be workers, or they could just 177 00:06:56,292 --> 00:06:58,478 sort of shamble and look scary, but they weren't attacking 178 00:06:58,502 --> 00:07:00,463 and biting and killing like they did 179 00:07:00,504 --> 00:07:02,214 in "Night of the Living Dead." 180 00:07:02,256 --> 00:07:03,591 Baby... [gasps] 181 00:07:03,633 --> 00:07:05,843 - [whimpering] - Mean, there were things 182 00:07:05,885 --> 00:07:08,888 that were so transgressive in that movie. 183 00:07:08,930 --> 00:07:11,474 [whimpering] 184 00:07:11,515 --> 00:07:13,309 [wailing] 185 00:07:13,351 --> 00:07:14,828 The little girl stabs her mother to death. 186 00:07:14,852 --> 00:07:16,854 The little kid killing her mom, that had... 187 00:07:16,896 --> 00:07:18,481 no one had ever seen anything like that. 188 00:07:18,522 --> 00:07:20,500 The first time you see it, you're just horrified. 189 00:07:20,524 --> 00:07:22,026 You can't believe what you're seeing. 190 00:07:22,068 --> 00:07:24,654 [screeching] 191 00:07:26,364 --> 00:07:28,199 "Night of the Living Dead" was much more 192 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,242 of a claustrophobic nightmare kind of experience, 193 00:07:30,284 --> 00:07:32,662 "Night of the Living Dead" is also, uh, 194 00:07:32,703 --> 00:07:34,705 somewhat facetious, and it's also... 195 00:07:34,747 --> 00:07:38,042 it has its sociopolitical allegory. 196 00:07:38,084 --> 00:07:39,811 What's important about "Night of the Living Dead" 197 00:07:39,835 --> 00:07:41,355 is the fact that the travails of the people 198 00:07:41,379 --> 00:07:43,297 locked in that house are really a microcosm 199 00:07:43,339 --> 00:07:45,174 of what's going on in American society 200 00:07:45,216 --> 00:07:48,010 - [indistinct] - The tumult of the late 1960s 201 00:07:48,052 --> 00:07:51,347 is reflected in the fear and the... the violence 202 00:07:51,389 --> 00:07:53,766 that... that occur in and around that house. 203 00:07:53,808 --> 00:07:57,061 That movie's revolutionary in many, many ways 204 00:07:57,103 --> 00:07:59,647 and had profound impact... 205 00:07:59,689 --> 00:08:01,732 the fact it had a black lead... 206 00:08:01,774 --> 00:08:03,651 [suspenseful music] 207 00:08:03,693 --> 00:08:05,277 [groans] 208 00:08:05,319 --> 00:08:07,405 Which George always said was not deliberate. 209 00:08:07,446 --> 00:08:09,699 It was that Duane was the best actor. 210 00:08:09,740 --> 00:08:11,510 I don't believe him. I think it was deliberate. 211 00:08:11,534 --> 00:08:12,827 With all of us working, 212 00:08:12,868 --> 00:08:14,137 we can fix this place up in no time. 213 00:08:14,161 --> 00:08:15,913 We have everything we need up here. 214 00:08:15,955 --> 00:08:18,499 We can take all that stuff downstairs with us. 215 00:08:18,541 --> 00:08:20,126 Man, you're really crazy, you know that? 216 00:08:20,167 --> 00:08:21,961 Let's say you're a... a white viewer 217 00:08:22,003 --> 00:08:24,630 in the late 1960s... 218 00:08:24,672 --> 00:08:26,632 who has a few prejudices, say, 219 00:08:26,674 --> 00:08:28,801 and is a little bit worried that the world is ending 220 00:08:28,843 --> 00:08:30,845 because of all of the, uh, racial legislation 221 00:08:30,886 --> 00:08:32,555 of the '60s... The Voting Rights Act, 222 00:08:32,596 --> 00:08:34,890 The Civil Rights Act... and here's this zombie film 223 00:08:34,932 --> 00:08:36,892 where the dead are coming back to life 224 00:08:36,934 --> 00:08:38,602 and a black man is in charge. 225 00:08:38,644 --> 00:08:40,521 I don't want anyone's life on my hands. 226 00:08:40,563 --> 00:08:42,541 - Is there anything I can do? - I don't wanna hear any more 227 00:08:42,565 --> 00:08:44,025 from you, mister. 228 00:08:44,066 --> 00:08:45,860 If you stay up here, you take orders from me. 229 00:08:45,901 --> 00:08:47,820 I will contend that that might have been 230 00:08:47,862 --> 00:08:50,656 as frightening to some viewers as the child eating her mother 231 00:08:50,698 --> 00:08:52,533 in the basement. [laughing] 232 00:08:52,575 --> 00:08:55,703 [sinister music] 233 00:08:55,745 --> 00:08:59,248 What we get is potentially something hopeful, you know, 234 00:08:59,290 --> 00:09:01,000 with the African-American protagonist... 235 00:09:01,042 --> 00:09:03,961 like maybe some new direction socially... 236 00:09:04,003 --> 00:09:07,423 but instead it just turns into vigilante justice 237 00:09:07,465 --> 00:09:12,803 represented by a white lynch mob. 238 00:09:12,845 --> 00:09:14,764 You can imagine the... the shock 239 00:09:14,805 --> 00:09:17,516 that audiences must have felt to... to be coaxed 240 00:09:17,558 --> 00:09:20,019 into identifying with a black man 241 00:09:20,061 --> 00:09:21,937 only to have him shot and then pitchforked 242 00:09:21,979 --> 00:09:24,023 onto a pile of burning bodies at the end. 243 00:09:24,065 --> 00:09:26,108 That's a slap. 244 00:09:26,150 --> 00:09:28,778 That's a direct slap to any audience, 245 00:09:28,819 --> 00:09:31,655 right wing or left wing. 246 00:09:31,697 --> 00:09:33,157 "The Night of the Living Dead" 247 00:09:33,199 --> 00:09:34,992 does not end on any kind of triumph. 248 00:09:35,034 --> 00:09:37,078 Your hero is shot by police. 249 00:09:37,119 --> 00:09:40,247 It's the most upsetting ending in cinema. 250 00:09:40,289 --> 00:09:42,708 And then that has continued 251 00:09:42,750 --> 00:09:44,710 through horror cinema of actually... 252 00:09:44,752 --> 00:09:47,046 It doesn't always have a happy ending. 253 00:09:47,088 --> 00:09:51,801 ♪♪ 254 00:09:51,842 --> 00:09:54,302 I think that's the joy of horror cinema, 255 00:09:54,303 --> 00:09:55,823 is that it can, like, affect you in lots 256 00:09:55,846 --> 00:09:58,224 - of different ways. - If George Romero 257 00:09:58,265 --> 00:10:00,267 had only made "Night of the Living Dead," 258 00:10:00,309 --> 00:10:02,144 - he would still be a legend... - [growling] 259 00:10:02,186 --> 00:10:04,855 But he didn't stop. 260 00:10:04,897 --> 00:10:06,857 "Night of the Living Dead" and its sequels 261 00:10:06,899 --> 00:10:09,235 changed the course of film history. 262 00:10:09,276 --> 00:10:10,945 and inspired the best 263 00:10:10,986 --> 00:10:12,738 the horror genre has to offer. 264 00:10:12,780 --> 00:10:14,907 - [groaning] - He was such a big influence 265 00:10:14,949 --> 00:10:16,534 on "Shaun of the Dead." 266 00:10:16,575 --> 00:10:19,411 We liked this idea of our film taking place 267 00:10:19,453 --> 00:10:21,205 within George Romero's universe. 268 00:10:21,247 --> 00:10:23,541 [yelling] 269 00:10:23,582 --> 00:10:25,251 - [grunts] - "Shaun of the Dead" 270 00:10:25,292 --> 00:10:27,461 was so well done that it opened the floodgates 271 00:10:27,503 --> 00:10:29,272 to, like, everybody to try and make a zombie movie. 272 00:10:29,296 --> 00:10:31,549 [dramatic music] 273 00:10:34,135 --> 00:10:36,095 Today, zombie movies 274 00:10:36,137 --> 00:10:37,930 and TV shows are everywhere. 275 00:10:37,972 --> 00:10:39,557 but not so long ago, 276 00:10:39,598 --> 00:10:42,560 they had virtually disappeared. 277 00:10:42,601 --> 00:10:44,436 Edgar Wright's "Shaun of the Dead" 278 00:10:44,478 --> 00:10:46,856 helped bring them back bigger than ever. 279 00:10:46,897 --> 00:10:48,607 [sinister music] 280 00:10:48,649 --> 00:10:50,651 [zombies moaning] 281 00:10:54,113 --> 00:10:56,049 When we thought up the idea for "Shaun of the Dead," 282 00:10:56,073 --> 00:10:58,742 one of the inspirations for it is because there hadn't been 283 00:10:58,784 --> 00:11:00,828 a zombie film for, like, 15 years. 284 00:11:00,870 --> 00:11:03,706 ♪♪ 285 00:11:03,747 --> 00:11:05,749 We always had this theory that, like, uh, 286 00:11:05,791 --> 00:11:08,502 John Landis' video for "Thriller" 287 00:11:08,544 --> 00:11:11,088 sort of killed off zombies for the second half 288 00:11:11,130 --> 00:11:12,756 of the '80s and early '90s. 289 00:11:12,798 --> 00:11:14,884 [menacing laughter] 290 00:11:14,925 --> 00:11:16,969 So I think what happened was, 291 00:11:17,011 --> 00:11:18,888 all of a sudden the zombie genre... 292 00:11:18,929 --> 00:11:21,724 which traditionally had probably sort of died out... 293 00:11:21,765 --> 00:11:23,184 - Yeah. - A little bit... 294 00:11:23,225 --> 00:11:24,905 and then all of a sudden you have all these 295 00:11:24,935 --> 00:11:26,204 zombie video games and they're like, "[bleep], 296 00:11:26,228 --> 00:11:29,440 man, people love shooting zombies." 297 00:11:29,481 --> 00:11:31,984 It was around, like, the late 1990s 298 00:11:32,026 --> 00:11:34,695 when "Resident Evil" came out... the game. 299 00:11:34,737 --> 00:11:36,071 [gunfire] 300 00:11:36,113 --> 00:11:38,157 - [zombie groans] - So people started 301 00:11:38,199 --> 00:11:40,284 to take an interest in the genre again. 302 00:11:40,326 --> 00:11:43,579 [foreboding music] 303 00:11:43,621 --> 00:11:46,415 Every now and then, we see a movie 304 00:11:46,457 --> 00:11:48,667 that is supposedly horror... 305 00:11:48,709 --> 00:11:51,921 but yet uses social commentary brilliantly, 306 00:11:51,962 --> 00:11:55,549 and the best example is "Shaun of the Dead." 307 00:11:55,591 --> 00:11:58,552 [cheerful music] 308 00:11:58,594 --> 00:12:00,346 You want to know where Britain was 309 00:12:00,387 --> 00:12:02,264 at that time, you look at "Shaun of the Dead." 310 00:12:02,306 --> 00:12:04,058 [groaning] 311 00:12:04,099 --> 00:12:06,060 In the '90s and the dawn of the new century, 312 00:12:06,101 --> 00:12:08,520 we were in a new phase in Britain... 313 00:12:08,562 --> 00:12:11,190 and a whole new generation of Britons were asking: 314 00:12:11,232 --> 00:12:12,441 "What's next?" 315 00:12:12,483 --> 00:12:14,652 And they were a little lost. 316 00:12:14,693 --> 00:12:16,237 [gunfire] 317 00:12:16,278 --> 00:12:18,322 Hey, man, listen, um... oh, top left. 318 00:12:18,364 --> 00:12:20,115 - Uh-huh. - I was gonna say... 319 00:12:20,157 --> 00:12:21,575 - reload. - I'm on it. 320 00:12:21,617 --> 00:12:23,869 And it was brilliant. 321 00:12:25,371 --> 00:12:27,206 What I love about "Shaun of the Dead" 322 00:12:27,248 --> 00:12:30,793 is they're not making fun of... 323 00:12:30,834 --> 00:12:32,253 zombie movies, 324 00:12:32,294 --> 00:12:34,129 they're making a funny zombie movie. 325 00:12:34,171 --> 00:12:36,548 I'm not gonna say, "If you love her, let her go," 326 00:12:36,590 --> 00:12:38,801 and I'm not gonna bombard you with clichés. 327 00:12:38,842 --> 00:12:40,886 But what I will say is this... 328 00:12:40,928 --> 00:12:43,013 [chuffs, sniffles] 329 00:12:43,055 --> 00:12:44,306 It's not the end of the world. 330 00:12:44,348 --> 00:12:46,642 [banging on glass] 331 00:12:46,684 --> 00:12:47,977 [sinister music] 332 00:12:48,018 --> 00:12:50,229 And they play on all the tropes... 333 00:12:50,271 --> 00:12:52,356 Sorry, we're closed. 334 00:12:52,398 --> 00:12:53,774 [moaning] 335 00:12:53,816 --> 00:12:55,943 I'd been playing "Resident Evil 3," 336 00:12:55,985 --> 00:12:57,987 like, all night. [laughs] 337 00:12:58,028 --> 00:13:00,239 My girlfriend at the time had gone away... 338 00:13:00,281 --> 00:13:02,074 [zombie groans] 339 00:13:02,116 --> 00:13:04,243 And I promised her I wouldn't play video games 340 00:13:04,285 --> 00:13:06,912 all weekend, and I did exactly that. 341 00:13:06,954 --> 00:13:09,164 I remember, vividly, 342 00:13:09,206 --> 00:13:11,208 playing it until the sun came up. 343 00:13:11,250 --> 00:13:13,669 [dramatic flair] 344 00:13:14,962 --> 00:13:16,255 [snores, grunts] 345 00:13:16,297 --> 00:13:18,340 [coughs] 346 00:13:18,382 --> 00:13:19,776 And then walking across the street 347 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,635 to the news agent to get some milk 348 00:13:21,677 --> 00:13:23,554 to make some tea... 349 00:13:23,595 --> 00:13:26,223 and I walked across the street, and it was completely empty 350 00:13:26,265 --> 00:13:27,933 on a Sunday morning. 351 00:13:27,975 --> 00:13:29,775 And the shop was the only thing that was open, 352 00:13:29,810 --> 00:13:31,729 and in that moment, I had a thought of thinking, 353 00:13:31,770 --> 00:13:33,957 "What would it be like if if zombies were here right now, 354 00:13:33,981 --> 00:13:35,607 and what would I do?" 355 00:13:35,649 --> 00:13:37,484 Because we don't really have guns in the UK, 356 00:13:37,526 --> 00:13:40,029 - How would I defend myself? - [coughing] 357 00:13:40,070 --> 00:13:41,739 It's just that little thought 358 00:13:41,780 --> 00:13:44,241 really sort of started to inspire the sequence 359 00:13:44,283 --> 00:13:46,744 where Shaun walks 360 00:13:46,785 --> 00:13:49,121 to the store and back hungover. 361 00:13:49,163 --> 00:13:51,040 So the zombie apocalypse has started, 362 00:13:51,081 --> 00:13:53,167 but he's still unaware of it. 363 00:13:53,208 --> 00:13:54,835 [growling] 364 00:13:54,877 --> 00:13:56,962 But he does this walk... it's a long, 365 00:13:57,004 --> 00:13:58,724 steady cam shot... and he goes into the shop 366 00:13:58,756 --> 00:14:00,549 and he doesn't notice... 367 00:14:00,591 --> 00:14:02,259 little things. 368 00:14:02,301 --> 00:14:05,471 [music playing over speakers] 369 00:14:05,512 --> 00:14:08,140 The bloody handprints on the wall, 370 00:14:08,182 --> 00:14:10,059 and he's walking away from the refrigerator 371 00:14:10,100 --> 00:14:12,853 and he just slips in blood. 372 00:14:12,895 --> 00:14:14,396 [shoes squeaking] 373 00:14:14,438 --> 00:14:17,358 It's so subtle, but it's... [laughing] 374 00:14:17,399 --> 00:14:19,443 It's such a great moment 375 00:14:19,485 --> 00:14:21,612 because you know... you as the audience 376 00:14:21,653 --> 00:14:23,614 know what's coming... his character doesn't 377 00:14:23,655 --> 00:14:27,368 know it yet, and it's... he... he's still out of it. 378 00:14:27,409 --> 00:14:29,536 - Nelson. - It's such a simple moment 379 00:14:29,578 --> 00:14:32,706 but it's one of my favorite moments in the movie. 380 00:14:32,748 --> 00:14:34,875 It's wonderful, the way they show 381 00:14:34,917 --> 00:14:36,752 the collapse of society. 382 00:14:36,794 --> 00:14:38,170 [phone ringing] 383 00:14:38,212 --> 00:14:40,839 Zombies become a symbol of anarchy, 384 00:14:40,881 --> 00:14:43,801 and the collapse of the system, 385 00:14:43,842 --> 00:14:45,219 and all that protects us. 386 00:14:45,260 --> 00:14:46,512 [indistinct] 387 00:14:46,553 --> 00:14:48,138 - [zombies groaning] - Top left! 388 00:14:48,180 --> 00:14:50,474 [lively music] 389 00:14:50,516 --> 00:14:51,600 - Ah! - Reload. 390 00:14:51,642 --> 00:14:53,310 I'm on it. 391 00:14:53,352 --> 00:14:55,979 We wanted to stay true to the spirit 392 00:14:56,021 --> 00:14:57,665 of "Night of the Living Dead" and "Dawn of the Dead." 393 00:14:57,689 --> 00:14:59,316 [eerie music] 394 00:14:59,358 --> 00:15:01,902 The film is like a valentine to George Romero 395 00:15:01,944 --> 00:15:03,046 because we love those movies. 396 00:15:03,070 --> 00:15:04,947 We're, like, sharing our deep, 397 00:15:04,988 --> 00:15:07,908 deep love for the subject. 398 00:15:07,950 --> 00:15:10,786 Right down to its title, "Shaun of the Dead" 399 00:15:10,828 --> 00:15:13,372 is a tribute to what any horror fan will tell you 400 00:15:13,414 --> 00:15:16,583 is the greatest zombie film of all time. 401 00:15:16,625 --> 00:15:18,961 There's no greater zombie movie 402 00:15:19,002 --> 00:15:20,671 than "Dawn of the Dead." 403 00:15:20,712 --> 00:15:23,257 I think "Dawn of the Dead" is a real masterpiece. 404 00:15:23,298 --> 00:15:25,259 It's that rare kind of, like, nightmare world 405 00:15:25,300 --> 00:15:27,970 which you actually wouldn't... I mean, maybe this is just me, 406 00:15:28,011 --> 00:15:29,430 but you wouldn't mind being in it. 407 00:15:29,471 --> 00:15:30,805 [laughing] 408 00:15:30,806 --> 00:15:32,350 [zombies growling] 409 00:15:35,769 --> 00:15:37,646 - No! No! - George Romero's 410 00:15:37,688 --> 00:15:40,357 "Night of the Living Dead" created the modern zombie. 411 00:15:40,399 --> 00:15:42,609 That was a hard act to follow, 412 00:15:42,651 --> 00:15:44,987 but the director topped it with his sequel, 413 00:15:45,028 --> 00:15:46,572 "Dawn of the Dead." 414 00:15:46,613 --> 00:15:48,866 [zombies growling] 415 00:15:48,907 --> 00:15:50,492 [sinister music] 416 00:15:50,534 --> 00:15:52,369 "Dawn of the Dead" was a potent mixture 417 00:15:52,411 --> 00:15:53,829 of horror, satire, 418 00:15:53,871 --> 00:15:55,831 and outrageous special effects. 419 00:15:55,873 --> 00:15:57,624 [screaming] 420 00:15:57,666 --> 00:15:59,585 [zombies growling] 421 00:15:59,626 --> 00:16:01,545 It's, uh, basically a continuation of the... 422 00:16:01,587 --> 00:16:02,981 of "Night of the Living Dead," where zombies are 423 00:16:03,005 --> 00:16:04,840 taking over the world. 424 00:16:04,882 --> 00:16:06,258 [zombies growling] 425 00:16:06,300 --> 00:16:07,885 This was the first depiction 426 00:16:07,926 --> 00:16:10,971 of a full-scale zombie apocalypse, 427 00:16:11,013 --> 00:16:13,432 a nightmare vision of social collapse 428 00:16:13,474 --> 00:16:15,476 that became the template for virtually 429 00:16:15,517 --> 00:16:19,563 every end-of-the-world story we see today. 430 00:16:19,605 --> 00:16:22,232 Once again, Romero used horror 431 00:16:22,274 --> 00:16:24,526 to comment on American values. 432 00:16:24,568 --> 00:16:28,155 He is masterfully executing 433 00:16:28,197 --> 00:16:30,991 all of those horror elements 434 00:16:31,033 --> 00:16:32,951 in a way that brings it 435 00:16:32,993 --> 00:16:36,830 right to a social justice scenario... 436 00:16:36,872 --> 00:16:39,124 Martinez! 437 00:16:39,166 --> 00:16:40,626 You've been watching! 438 00:16:40,667 --> 00:16:43,295 You know we've got this building surrounded! 439 00:16:43,337 --> 00:16:48,091 Particularly that opening when in the ghettos, 440 00:16:48,133 --> 00:16:50,719 all of the poor are keeping their loved ones 441 00:16:50,761 --> 00:16:53,555 hidden away from the rest of the world, 442 00:16:53,597 --> 00:16:55,641 because they know that they will kill them. 443 00:16:55,682 --> 00:16:58,810 People in this project are your responsibility. 444 00:16:58,852 --> 00:17:01,522 In the first 20 minutes, there's a SWAT team 445 00:17:01,563 --> 00:17:03,023 - raiding a house... - Yeah. 446 00:17:03,065 --> 00:17:04,608 And one of the police officers 447 00:17:04,650 --> 00:17:06,443 is unbelievably racist. 448 00:17:06,485 --> 00:17:08,338 Yeah, come on, Martinez. Show your greasy little 449 00:17:08,362 --> 00:17:10,364 Puerto Rican ass so I can blow it right off. 450 00:17:10,405 --> 00:17:11,865 And I was like, 451 00:17:11,907 --> 00:17:14,159 "Why is this guy concerned with racism?" 452 00:17:14,201 --> 00:17:15,827 Like, there's zombies in the building. 453 00:17:15,869 --> 00:17:17,412 - [laughing] - It was unbelievable. 454 00:17:17,454 --> 00:17:19,098 I was like, "Aren't there bigger problems?" 455 00:17:19,122 --> 00:17:20,541 Let's go, let's go! 456 00:17:20,582 --> 00:17:22,709 [all shouting] 457 00:17:23,877 --> 00:17:26,755 That blew my mind as a kid 458 00:17:26,797 --> 00:17:29,341 because I realized I was watching 459 00:17:29,383 --> 00:17:31,802 a political story 460 00:17:31,843 --> 00:17:34,012 about the race 461 00:17:34,054 --> 00:17:35,681 and class system in America. 462 00:17:35,722 --> 00:17:37,140 [bell ringing] 463 00:17:37,182 --> 00:17:39,351 After showing society crumbling, 464 00:17:39,393 --> 00:17:42,646 the film shifts focus to a small group of survivors 465 00:17:42,688 --> 00:17:45,857 who take refuge in a suburban shopping mall. 466 00:17:45,899 --> 00:17:47,734 I think the great thing about zombies 467 00:17:47,776 --> 00:17:50,237 is they are like a catch-all metaphor 468 00:17:50,279 --> 00:17:53,365 of the world's ills, and I think George Romero 469 00:17:53,407 --> 00:17:55,450 doesn't really get enough credit as a satirist 470 00:17:55,492 --> 00:17:57,202 as well as a horror film maker. 471 00:17:57,244 --> 00:17:58,829 Come on! [shouting] 472 00:17:58,870 --> 00:18:00,539 "Dawn of the Dead" being the most 473 00:18:00,581 --> 00:18:03,041 kind of savage statement about the state of consumerism 474 00:18:03,083 --> 00:18:04,751 in the late '70s. 475 00:18:04,793 --> 00:18:06,253 [zombie growling] 476 00:18:06,295 --> 00:18:08,589 The idea of the mindless hordes 477 00:18:08,630 --> 00:18:10,382 flock to the big fancy shopping mall... 478 00:18:10,424 --> 00:18:12,718 [cheerful music] 479 00:18:12,759 --> 00:18:14,344 That was very pointed and very funny. 480 00:18:14,386 --> 00:18:16,888 What are they doing? Why do they come here? 481 00:18:16,930 --> 00:18:18,765 Some kind of instinct. 482 00:18:18,807 --> 00:18:21,560 Memory of what they used to do. 483 00:18:21,602 --> 00:18:23,979 This was an important place in their lives. 484 00:18:24,021 --> 00:18:26,106 You can't watch that movie and not become aware 485 00:18:26,148 --> 00:18:28,775 of the fact that this is a story about 486 00:18:28,817 --> 00:18:31,028 what humans really are: 487 00:18:31,069 --> 00:18:33,405 grasping, vampiric creatures 488 00:18:33,447 --> 00:18:35,574 that kind of return endlessly to their old habits 489 00:18:35,616 --> 00:18:38,076 because it's what they're taught. 490 00:18:38,118 --> 00:18:39,703 I think "Dawn of the Dead" 491 00:18:39,745 --> 00:18:42,122 should be sold in a box set with "Easy Rider." 492 00:18:42,164 --> 00:18:43,915 It should be called "The Baby Boomers: 493 00:18:43,957 --> 00:18:46,460 The Beginning and the End." 494 00:18:46,501 --> 00:18:49,671 Romero has managed to distill... 495 00:18:49,713 --> 00:18:51,465 [camera shutter snapping] 496 00:18:51,506 --> 00:18:53,967 The worst of every generation into all of his movies. 497 00:18:54,009 --> 00:18:56,553 You see the baby boomers 498 00:18:56,595 --> 00:18:58,263 losing their souls. 499 00:18:58,305 --> 00:19:00,474 What have we done to ourselves? 500 00:19:00,515 --> 00:19:02,142 Because what Romero did 501 00:19:02,184 --> 00:19:04,853 was channel his outrage 502 00:19:04,895 --> 00:19:07,481 at his generation's ultimate surrender 503 00:19:07,522 --> 00:19:09,232 of all their ideals 504 00:19:09,274 --> 00:19:11,026 - and he put it in a movie. - So, I mean, 505 00:19:11,068 --> 00:19:13,487 if you were gonna go out and do a talky little, uh, drama 506 00:19:13,528 --> 00:19:16,156 to try to criticize the consumer society 507 00:19:16,198 --> 00:19:17,824 that we have here, you couldn't make 508 00:19:17,866 --> 00:19:19,826 - $30 million, you know? - That's for sure. 509 00:19:19,868 --> 00:19:21,870 So, terrific. You get a couple of jabs in 510 00:19:21,912 --> 00:19:23,914 while you're having fun with the rollercoaster ride 511 00:19:23,955 --> 00:19:26,291 which really is the surface. 512 00:19:26,333 --> 00:19:28,710 [indistinct shouting] 513 00:19:28,752 --> 00:19:31,046 Romero was a man with a message, 514 00:19:31,088 --> 00:19:33,382 but his gleeful embrace of gore 515 00:19:33,423 --> 00:19:35,425 made him a horror favorite. 516 00:19:35,467 --> 00:19:37,969 "Dawn of the Dead," I had never seen that level 517 00:19:38,011 --> 00:19:39,221 of a body count in a movie. 518 00:19:39,262 --> 00:19:41,264 [gunshots] 519 00:19:48,271 --> 00:19:50,857 You're, like, watching like, "Who made this?" 520 00:19:50,899 --> 00:19:52,609 - Yeah. - Like, a maniac? 521 00:19:52,651 --> 00:19:54,736 [dramatic music] 522 00:19:54,778 --> 00:19:57,698 But normally, one movie, there'd be one kill 523 00:19:57,739 --> 00:19:59,366 that was amazing, and it was like 524 00:19:59,408 --> 00:20:01,618 every 30 seconds, each kill was different. 525 00:20:01,660 --> 00:20:02,953 [propeller whirring] 526 00:20:02,994 --> 00:20:04,579 - That helicopter blade... - Yeah. 527 00:20:04,621 --> 00:20:06,265 - Pulling it off the head... - The guy with 528 00:20:06,289 --> 00:20:07,892 - the giant forehead. - Which... which if you were... 529 00:20:07,916 --> 00:20:09,556 - Exactly. - By the way, when you're a kid 530 00:20:09,584 --> 00:20:11,044 you never see that coming. 531 00:20:11,086 --> 00:20:13,296 You see he staggers out and his head... 532 00:20:13,338 --> 00:20:15,048 [all chattering] 533 00:20:15,090 --> 00:20:16,800 You never put two and two together. 534 00:20:16,842 --> 00:20:18,319 Now you look at it and go, "Oh, of course, he's gonna 535 00:20:18,343 --> 00:20:20,429 get his head cut off." 536 00:20:21,346 --> 00:20:23,890 Really accomplished horror directors knew 537 00:20:23,932 --> 00:20:26,476 having Tom Savini doing the make-up special effects 538 00:20:26,518 --> 00:20:28,520 that it was gonna elevate that film. 539 00:20:28,562 --> 00:20:31,732 and give them a wider audience than they ever anticipated. 540 00:20:31,773 --> 00:20:33,400 Well, it was Halloween every day. 541 00:20:33,442 --> 00:20:34,961 We did that for three months in a shopping mall. 542 00:20:34,985 --> 00:20:36,862 [growling] 543 00:20:36,903 --> 00:20:38,864 80% of the effects in that were stuff that 544 00:20:38,905 --> 00:20:40,490 we came up with. 545 00:20:40,532 --> 00:20:42,093 We'd go to George and say, "Hey, how about if we drive 546 00:20:42,117 --> 00:20:43,928 a screwdriver through... through the zombies, here." 547 00:20:43,952 --> 00:20:46,079 And he'd go, "Okay." 548 00:20:46,121 --> 00:20:48,081 So then two hours later we're making 549 00:20:48,123 --> 00:20:50,208 retractable screwdrivers and, you know, 550 00:20:50,250 --> 00:20:52,252 making it bleed inside a zombie's ear. 551 00:20:52,294 --> 00:20:53,837 [dramatic music] 552 00:20:53,879 --> 00:20:56,173 But the scene that makes you like, wonder, 553 00:20:56,214 --> 00:20:57,924 "Oh, wow... 554 00:20:57,966 --> 00:20:59,384 can I even handle this?" 555 00:20:59,426 --> 00:21:01,887 Is when the zombie in the project... 556 00:21:01,928 --> 00:21:04,139 - when, uh, his wife... - [shouting] 557 00:21:04,181 --> 00:21:06,391 He's still alive, comes to her and... 558 00:21:06,433 --> 00:21:07,433 and embraces him. 559 00:21:07,434 --> 00:21:09,020 "My baby, my baby." 560 00:21:09,060 --> 00:21:10,854 And then she... he just bites... 561 00:21:10,896 --> 00:21:13,064 just a chunk out of her shoulder. 562 00:21:13,106 --> 00:21:15,484 - Carlito... - [growling] 563 00:21:15,525 --> 00:21:17,235 [shrieking] 564 00:21:17,277 --> 00:21:18,904 It just looks real. 565 00:21:18,945 --> 00:21:20,447 It just... it just... 566 00:21:20,489 --> 00:21:21,740 you buy it. 567 00:21:21,782 --> 00:21:23,992 - [screaming] - If humans had 568 00:21:24,034 --> 00:21:27,078 shark-like mouths, that's probably the effect 569 00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:28,663 of what would happen 570 00:21:28,705 --> 00:21:30,665 if a sharky human bit you. 571 00:21:30,707 --> 00:21:32,334 [growling] 572 00:21:33,293 --> 00:21:34,604 It's just an effect we had never seen before, 573 00:21:34,628 --> 00:21:36,087 and it draws a line in the sand. 574 00:21:36,129 --> 00:21:37,672 "Am I ready for the rest of this?" 575 00:21:37,714 --> 00:21:39,341 [sinister music] 576 00:21:39,382 --> 00:21:42,052 George Romero's vision was so influential 577 00:21:42,093 --> 00:21:44,721 that for decades, most screen zombies 578 00:21:44,763 --> 00:21:47,724 were slow-moving ghouls. 579 00:21:47,766 --> 00:21:49,726 But in 2002, 580 00:21:49,768 --> 00:21:52,062 Danny Boyle's "28 Days Later" 581 00:21:52,103 --> 00:21:53,605 gave us a zombie 582 00:21:53,647 --> 00:21:55,941 for the fast-moving 21st century 583 00:21:55,982 --> 00:21:57,901 and set off a controversy 584 00:21:57,943 --> 00:21:59,945 that rages to this day. 585 00:21:59,986 --> 00:22:02,322 - I'm a slow zombie guy. - I like fast zombies. 586 00:22:02,364 --> 00:22:05,116 I'm a card-carrying slow zombie fan. 587 00:22:05,158 --> 00:22:06,910 [zombies screeching, growling] 588 00:22:09,746 --> 00:22:11,581 [dark music] 589 00:22:11,623 --> 00:22:14,125 Imagine waking up in a world ravaged by a disease 590 00:22:14,167 --> 00:22:16,211 that turns ordinary people 591 00:22:16,253 --> 00:22:18,421 into mindless predators driven to kill. 592 00:22:18,463 --> 00:22:20,215 ♪♪ 593 00:22:20,257 --> 00:22:22,968 This is the premise of "28 Days Later," 594 00:22:23,009 --> 00:22:25,971 director Danny Boyle's groundbreaking reinvention 595 00:22:26,012 --> 00:22:27,055 of the zombie film. 596 00:22:27,097 --> 00:22:29,099 [zombie screaming] 597 00:22:31,059 --> 00:22:32,853 - [hissing] - [yells] 598 00:22:32,894 --> 00:22:35,522 Fight! Fight! 599 00:22:35,564 --> 00:22:37,107 "28 Days Later" 600 00:22:37,148 --> 00:22:40,068 is a perfect horror movie 601 00:22:40,110 --> 00:22:42,863 because it's based on a premise 602 00:22:42,904 --> 00:22:44,906 you can completely believe. 603 00:22:44,948 --> 00:22:46,700 - [growling] - I don't know what it's like 604 00:22:46,741 --> 00:22:48,618 - to be bitten by a vampire. - [roaring] 605 00:22:48,660 --> 00:22:50,096 I don't know what it's like to be threatened 606 00:22:50,120 --> 00:22:51,872 - by a werewolf. - [indistinct] 607 00:22:51,913 --> 00:22:53,331 [electronic interference] 608 00:22:53,373 --> 00:22:55,667 But I can imagine what it's like... 609 00:22:55,709 --> 00:22:58,753 to have a plague spread like wildfire 610 00:22:58,795 --> 00:23:01,381 because it's just too close 611 00:23:01,423 --> 00:23:03,884 to the headlines of today's news. 612 00:23:03,925 --> 00:23:05,719 [growling] 613 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,387 - [hissing] - It could happen. 614 00:23:07,429 --> 00:23:08,763 [dramatic music] 615 00:23:08,805 --> 00:23:10,557 "28 Days Later" came out 616 00:23:10,599 --> 00:23:13,101 a year after 9/11, and it includes 617 00:23:13,143 --> 00:23:15,145 these really haunting scenes 618 00:23:15,186 --> 00:23:17,397 of a deserted London... 619 00:23:17,439 --> 00:23:20,734 ♪♪ 620 00:23:20,775 --> 00:23:23,904 Missing persons flyers pasted to bulletin boards 621 00:23:23,945 --> 00:23:26,197 like we saw post 9/11... 622 00:23:26,239 --> 00:23:28,366 ♪♪ 623 00:23:28,408 --> 00:23:31,077 It also was able to, uh, 624 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,997 capitalize on a lot of the... the anxieties 625 00:23:34,039 --> 00:23:35,916 and fears of the time. 626 00:23:35,957 --> 00:23:37,417 ♪♪ 627 00:23:37,459 --> 00:23:39,419 SARS and anthrax 628 00:23:39,461 --> 00:23:42,756 and Mad Cow's Disease, bird flues... 629 00:23:42,797 --> 00:23:44,799 - [hissing] - Father... 630 00:23:44,841 --> 00:23:47,218 - [growling] - Also, Danny Boyle 631 00:23:47,260 --> 00:23:48,803 was commenting on, uh, 632 00:23:48,845 --> 00:23:51,139 the rage that he saw in society. 633 00:23:51,181 --> 00:23:53,308 Road rage, people fighting on line 634 00:23:53,350 --> 00:23:54,684 in the supermarkets... 635 00:23:54,726 --> 00:23:56,603 [grunts] 636 00:23:56,645 --> 00:23:59,564 He envisioned a zombie story that took advantage 637 00:23:59,606 --> 00:24:02,317 of this psychological virus 638 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,611 that could be unleashed and have, like, 639 00:24:04,653 --> 00:24:06,780 a zombie effect on people. 640 00:24:06,821 --> 00:24:09,157 [tense music] 641 00:24:09,199 --> 00:24:10,951 There was one big difference 642 00:24:10,992 --> 00:24:13,328 between George Romero's' zombies and the infected 643 00:24:13,370 --> 00:24:15,580 in "28 Days Later": 644 00:24:15,622 --> 00:24:17,290 these zombies were fast. 645 00:24:17,332 --> 00:24:20,627 People talked about sort of the next quantum leap 646 00:24:20,669 --> 00:24:22,796 in zombie movies... 647 00:24:23,838 --> 00:24:26,675 As "28 Days Later" 'cause it had running zombies. 648 00:24:26,716 --> 00:24:28,468 Even though there were running infected 649 00:24:28,510 --> 00:24:30,595 in Umberto Lenzi's "Nightmare City" from 1980. 650 00:24:30,637 --> 00:24:31,930 [laughing] 651 00:24:31,972 --> 00:24:34,849 [indistinct shouting] 652 00:24:35,767 --> 00:24:37,852 I'm a slow zombie guy. 653 00:24:37,894 --> 00:24:39,646 - [shouting] - Not that I don't like 654 00:24:39,688 --> 00:24:41,690 - a good fast zombie movie. - Somebody! 655 00:24:41,731 --> 00:24:43,525 Uh, I loved "28 Days Later." 656 00:24:43,566 --> 00:24:45,026 Yes, I know. 657 00:24:45,068 --> 00:24:47,487 They're not technically dead. 658 00:24:47,529 --> 00:24:49,197 They are rage virus. 659 00:24:49,239 --> 00:24:51,074 - I get that. - [hissing] 660 00:24:51,116 --> 00:24:52,951 [zombies growling] 661 00:24:52,993 --> 00:24:55,328 If I can make a criticism of running zombies, it's this: 662 00:24:55,370 --> 00:24:56,997 It's that running zombies generally... 663 00:24:57,038 --> 00:24:58,665 there's kind of like a fitness level. 664 00:24:58,707 --> 00:25:00,709 If you look at the zombies in "28 Days Later," 665 00:25:00,750 --> 00:25:03,253 they're nearly always, like, sort of fit. 666 00:25:03,294 --> 00:25:06,131 You know, like they're in like a sneakers commercial. 667 00:25:06,172 --> 00:25:08,967 [laughing] [zombies shouting] 668 00:25:09,009 --> 00:25:11,594 When you increase the speed, the people that lose out 669 00:25:11,636 --> 00:25:14,097 are the old zombies, and the overweight zombies, 670 00:25:14,139 --> 00:25:16,391 and the little kid zombies, and I would rather have 671 00:25:16,433 --> 00:25:18,476 a more inclusive range of zombies. 672 00:25:18,518 --> 00:25:20,687 [eerie music] 673 00:25:20,729 --> 00:25:23,815 Zombies that are slow are infinitely more terrifying. 674 00:25:23,857 --> 00:25:25,209 It's the difference between getting shot 675 00:25:25,233 --> 00:25:27,819 and getting cancer. [crowd shouting] 676 00:25:27,861 --> 00:25:30,905 You get killed by, say, a fast zombie 677 00:25:30,947 --> 00:25:34,325 in the "World War Z" movie or "28 Days Later," 678 00:25:34,367 --> 00:25:36,036 you're dead before you know it. 679 00:25:36,077 --> 00:25:37,954 [zombies growling] Happens too fast. 680 00:25:37,996 --> 00:25:39,831 ♪♪ 681 00:25:39,873 --> 00:25:41,666 But the slow zombie... 682 00:25:41,708 --> 00:25:43,960 the zombie that gives you time to think... 683 00:25:44,002 --> 00:25:47,338 allows you to visualize your own death... 684 00:25:47,380 --> 00:25:49,966 [zombies growling] 685 00:25:51,384 --> 00:25:53,303 And that is one of the darker elements 686 00:25:53,344 --> 00:25:55,305 of the human mind. 687 00:25:55,346 --> 00:25:56,890 - Fast or slow... - [growling] 688 00:25:56,931 --> 00:25:58,767 Zombies are usually created 689 00:25:58,808 --> 00:26:01,728 by accidental radiation leaks or rogue viruses. 690 00:26:01,770 --> 00:26:03,813 [growling, babbling] 691 00:26:03,855 --> 00:26:05,690 But there is another kind of zombie: 692 00:26:05,732 --> 00:26:08,193 The deliberately reanimated corpse, 693 00:26:08,234 --> 00:26:09,903 like Frankenstein's monster. 694 00:26:09,944 --> 00:26:12,030 - Alive! - Created by Mary Shelley 695 00:26:12,072 --> 00:26:15,033 in 1818, Frankenstein's monster 696 00:26:15,075 --> 00:26:17,827 is the most famous member of the walking dead. 697 00:26:17,869 --> 00:26:19,579 Frankenstein's monster 698 00:26:19,621 --> 00:26:21,581 is a zombie for sure. 699 00:26:21,623 --> 00:26:23,291 In the novel, he's just a... 700 00:26:23,333 --> 00:26:26,920 a zombie that can talk way too much. 701 00:26:26,961 --> 00:26:28,630 As a kid, I really felt connected 702 00:26:28,671 --> 00:26:30,256 to Frankenstein's monster, not so much 703 00:26:30,298 --> 00:26:31,591 to Frankenstein himself. 704 00:26:31,633 --> 00:26:33,384 I think that goes for a lot 705 00:26:33,426 --> 00:26:35,345 of those original horror classics. 706 00:26:35,386 --> 00:26:37,472 Those characters are sort of stand-ins 707 00:26:37,514 --> 00:26:40,141 for people that are on the fringe of society 708 00:26:40,183 --> 00:26:41,893 or castaways... cast outs. 709 00:26:41,935 --> 00:26:44,395 [crowd shouting] 710 00:26:44,437 --> 00:26:46,397 Boris Karloff's Frankenstein 711 00:26:46,439 --> 00:26:48,233 is still the definitive version 712 00:26:48,274 --> 00:26:49,818 of this monster. 713 00:26:49,859 --> 00:26:51,528 Its direct descendant 714 00:26:51,569 --> 00:26:54,322 is "H.P. Lovecraft's Re-Animator." 715 00:26:54,364 --> 00:26:56,241 With "Re-Animator," 716 00:26:56,282 --> 00:26:59,202 director Stuart Gordon reimagined the zombie film 717 00:26:59,244 --> 00:27:01,955 as a wildly transgressive horror comedy. 718 00:27:01,996 --> 00:27:03,540 [dark music] 719 00:27:03,581 --> 00:27:06,000 I remember I went to a... like a... a bunch of kids 720 00:27:06,042 --> 00:27:08,062 were hanging out at a house like have... having a party 721 00:27:08,086 --> 00:27:09,754 and they watched "Breakfast Club," 722 00:27:09,796 --> 00:27:12,423 and I was never... I had never been so bored in a movie. 723 00:27:12,465 --> 00:27:14,592 I was just, like, waiting for something to happen. 724 00:27:14,634 --> 00:27:16,278 - Somebody gets the hot potato. - Something. 725 00:27:16,302 --> 00:27:17,822 And I was like, "I have a much better movie." 726 00:27:17,846 --> 00:27:19,115 - And I put on "Re-Animator..." - [laughing] 727 00:27:19,139 --> 00:27:20,407 And the whole party cleared out. 728 00:27:20,431 --> 00:27:22,392 - [wailing] - [screaming] 729 00:27:22,433 --> 00:27:25,061 [both screaming] 730 00:27:25,103 --> 00:27:27,313 Well, the film is about medical students 731 00:27:27,355 --> 00:27:29,357 who find a way to bring the dead back to life. 732 00:27:29,399 --> 00:27:31,192 Particularly, there's this one genius, 733 00:27:31,234 --> 00:27:34,404 Herbert West... he's developed a serum which, 734 00:27:34,445 --> 00:27:37,574 when it's injected into a dead body, revives it. 735 00:27:37,615 --> 00:27:40,326 [screaming] 736 00:27:40,368 --> 00:27:43,121 But the dead are never very grateful. 737 00:27:43,163 --> 00:27:45,415 - [growling] - [choking] 738 00:27:45,456 --> 00:27:48,710 What was great about Stuart Gordon's take on it... 739 00:27:48,751 --> 00:27:50,670 he put a really interesting sense of humor 740 00:27:50,712 --> 00:27:52,213 in the whole thing. 741 00:27:53,882 --> 00:27:56,134 - [growls] - 'Cause you can look 742 00:27:56,176 --> 00:27:57,778 - at "Re-Animator" as a comedy. - You'll never get credit 743 00:27:57,802 --> 00:27:59,220 for my discovery. 744 00:27:59,262 --> 00:28:00,698 Who's going to believe a talking head? 745 00:28:00,722 --> 00:28:02,432 Get a job in a sideshow. 746 00:28:02,473 --> 00:28:04,601 "Re-Animator" was like nothing 747 00:28:04,642 --> 00:28:07,478 I had seen before... like nothing anyone 748 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,982 had seen before... and the audacity of it 749 00:28:11,024 --> 00:28:13,067 is what makes it so powerful. 750 00:28:13,109 --> 00:28:16,070 [dark music] 751 00:28:16,112 --> 00:28:19,240 ♪♪ 752 00:28:19,282 --> 00:28:20,909 Boy, that's a sick picture. 753 00:28:20,950 --> 00:28:22,994 Really transgressive. 754 00:28:23,036 --> 00:28:25,788 Got a lot of crawling hands and heads rolling around 755 00:28:25,830 --> 00:28:28,750 - like bowling balls. - [growling] 756 00:28:28,791 --> 00:28:30,793 You should not be censoring yourself. 757 00:28:30,835 --> 00:28:32,587 [drill whirring] 758 00:28:32,629 --> 00:28:33,814 You know, they'll be doing everything they can 759 00:28:33,838 --> 00:28:34,964 to censor you. 760 00:28:35,006 --> 00:28:36,591 You should not give them an inch. 761 00:28:36,633 --> 00:28:38,301 [drill whirring] 762 00:28:38,343 --> 00:28:40,220 ♪♪ 763 00:28:40,261 --> 00:28:42,281 "Re-Animator's" fun. I don't know what it's about, 764 00:28:42,305 --> 00:28:44,015 like, that... I don't know that it's about 765 00:28:44,057 --> 00:28:46,351 any big ideas whatsoever, 766 00:28:46,392 --> 00:28:48,436 except that it would be fun to keep heads alive 767 00:28:48,478 --> 00:28:50,980 - in a basket. - It's about conquering death. 768 00:28:51,022 --> 00:28:53,274 - That's really what it's about. - [snarling] 769 00:28:53,316 --> 00:28:54,692 [screaming] 770 00:28:54,734 --> 00:28:57,153 - [grunts] - My father passed away 771 00:28:57,195 --> 00:28:59,405 when I was 14 years old, 772 00:28:59,447 --> 00:29:02,742 and I think that that was the hook for me. 773 00:29:02,784 --> 00:29:04,494 People always say, "If you could 774 00:29:04,535 --> 00:29:06,788 bring anybody back's life, who would it be?" 775 00:29:06,829 --> 00:29:09,540 In my case, it's a... it's a no-brainer: 776 00:29:09,582 --> 00:29:12,085 It would be my father. 777 00:29:12,126 --> 00:29:13,711 - [screams] - [wails] 778 00:29:13,753 --> 00:29:16,005 When you look at most horror movies, I think, 779 00:29:16,047 --> 00:29:18,508 they're about an impossible dream. 780 00:29:18,549 --> 00:29:20,927 In 1985, "Re-Animator" 781 00:29:20,969 --> 00:29:23,346 and Dan O'Bannon's "Return of the Living Dead" 782 00:29:23,388 --> 00:29:26,057 explored the comic frontiers of the zombie genre. 783 00:29:26,099 --> 00:29:27,099 ♪♪ 784 00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:29,018 Brains! 785 00:29:29,060 --> 00:29:31,729 That same year, the king of the zombies... 786 00:29:31,771 --> 00:29:35,233 George Romero... was crafting a much darker film, 787 00:29:35,275 --> 00:29:37,318 what he hoped would be the zombie film 788 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,571 to end all zombie films: "Day of the Dead." 789 00:29:40,613 --> 00:29:42,615 "Day of the Dead" was intended 790 00:29:42,657 --> 00:29:45,618 to be George Romero's $10 million opus. 791 00:29:45,660 --> 00:29:47,537 [dramatic music] 792 00:29:50,623 --> 00:29:51,666 - No... - George Romero's 793 00:29:51,708 --> 00:29:53,376 first two zombie films 794 00:29:53,418 --> 00:29:54,836 invented a new kind of monster... 795 00:29:54,877 --> 00:29:56,546 - [shrieking] - And a new metaphor 796 00:29:56,587 --> 00:29:57,672 for life in America. 797 00:29:57,714 --> 00:30:00,300 One, two, three, go. 798 00:30:00,341 --> 00:30:02,218 [gunshots] 799 00:30:02,260 --> 00:30:04,137 By 1985, he was making 800 00:30:04,178 --> 00:30:06,764 what he hoped would be his ultimate statement, 801 00:30:06,806 --> 00:30:08,933 a zombie film that combined 802 00:30:08,975 --> 00:30:11,019 incredibly realistic special effects 803 00:30:11,060 --> 00:30:12,270 with a powerful message. 804 00:30:12,312 --> 00:30:13,479 - [screaming] - [wailing] 805 00:30:13,521 --> 00:30:15,231 [zombies growling] 806 00:30:15,273 --> 00:30:17,859 The message of the Reagan era was... 807 00:30:17,900 --> 00:30:21,154 no more war on poverty, no more war on crime, 808 00:30:21,195 --> 00:30:24,449 no more war on racial segregation. 809 00:30:24,490 --> 00:30:25,742 Uh, screw it. 810 00:30:25,783 --> 00:30:27,994 [zombies shouting] 811 00:30:28,036 --> 00:30:29,412 We've lost. There's more of them 812 00:30:29,454 --> 00:30:31,205 than there are of us, so you need to retreat 813 00:30:31,247 --> 00:30:34,542 into your protective enclaves and husband your resources. 814 00:30:34,584 --> 00:30:36,294 And that's exactly what our characters do. 815 00:30:36,336 --> 00:30:40,006 - You must listen! - Listen to this. 816 00:30:44,761 --> 00:30:46,721 [dramatic music] 817 00:30:46,763 --> 00:30:48,806 In "Day of the Dead," we see the military rule, 818 00:30:48,848 --> 00:30:51,100 - and that's even scarier. - I'm running 819 00:30:51,142 --> 00:30:53,227 this monkey farm now, Frankenstein, 820 00:30:53,269 --> 00:30:55,772 and I want to know what the [bleep] 821 00:30:55,813 --> 00:30:58,107 you're doing with my time! 822 00:30:58,149 --> 00:31:00,026 A bunch of people who are trying to do good 823 00:31:00,068 --> 00:31:01,652 and find a cure are being ruled 824 00:31:01,694 --> 00:31:04,906 by this military presence that is very aggressive 825 00:31:04,947 --> 00:31:08,242 and will do anything it takes to preserve itself, 826 00:31:08,284 --> 00:31:09,994 so that's terrifying as well. 827 00:31:10,036 --> 00:31:11,621 [electrical zapping] 828 00:31:11,662 --> 00:31:13,307 The zombies are in some ways, you know... 829 00:31:13,331 --> 00:31:15,375 the ones who are being experimented upon... 830 00:31:15,416 --> 00:31:17,919 kind of more sympathetic than many of the humans. 831 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,253 [zombies groaning] 832 00:31:19,295 --> 00:31:21,589 Rhodes! 833 00:31:21,631 --> 00:31:24,384 In "Dawn of the Dead," we're losing. 834 00:31:24,425 --> 00:31:26,177 In "Day of the Dead," we've lost. 835 00:31:26,219 --> 00:31:28,971 Most good directors that really have a grasp 836 00:31:29,013 --> 00:31:30,681 on the medium can do horror. 837 00:31:30,723 --> 00:31:32,809 - It's not as delicate as humor. - Mm. 838 00:31:32,850 --> 00:31:34,185 It's not as delicate. 839 00:31:34,227 --> 00:31:35,371 Uh, there are some tricks of the trade 840 00:31:35,395 --> 00:31:37,146 that you can apply. 841 00:31:37,188 --> 00:31:39,065 Like his other zombie films, 842 00:31:39,107 --> 00:31:41,984 "Day of the Dead" was shot in Romero's hometown 843 00:31:42,026 --> 00:31:44,278 of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, 844 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,614 far outside of the Hollywood system. 845 00:31:46,656 --> 00:31:49,117 But that's what made... 846 00:31:49,158 --> 00:31:51,202 George Romero... 847 00:31:51,244 --> 00:31:52,912 such a terrific filmmaker, 848 00:31:52,954 --> 00:31:56,332 was that he was a legit, regional filmmaker, 849 00:31:56,374 --> 00:31:58,960 and what made it special 850 00:31:59,001 --> 00:32:01,546 was the slightly homemade quality 851 00:32:01,587 --> 00:32:03,339 to the movies. 852 00:32:03,381 --> 00:32:06,426 Everywhere that he would go in Pittsburgh, 853 00:32:06,467 --> 00:32:08,302 you knew somebody that was a zombie. 854 00:32:08,344 --> 00:32:10,263 You knew somebody that was involved 855 00:32:10,304 --> 00:32:12,056 with George Romero's movies, 856 00:32:12,098 --> 00:32:13,808 and that's how I got into the business. 857 00:32:13,850 --> 00:32:16,352 Because when "Day of the Dead" came along, 858 00:32:16,394 --> 00:32:18,813 I had befriended George 859 00:32:18,855 --> 00:32:20,791 because of some mutual family friends, and he's like, 860 00:32:20,815 --> 00:32:22,126 "Hey, I'm doing a sequel to 'Dawn of the Dead.' 861 00:32:22,150 --> 00:32:23,818 Do you want a job?" I'm like... 862 00:32:23,860 --> 00:32:25,963 "I was gonna be a doctor, but this sounds way better." 863 00:32:25,987 --> 00:32:29,115 [suspenseful music] 864 00:32:29,157 --> 00:32:31,534 And this is where George Romero 865 00:32:31,576 --> 00:32:34,412 and Tom Savini... arguably their creative peaks 866 00:32:34,454 --> 00:32:37,457 at the same time, working together. 867 00:32:37,498 --> 00:32:39,500 Special effects artists like Rick Baker 868 00:32:39,542 --> 00:32:42,253 and Tom Savini were heralded 869 00:32:42,295 --> 00:32:44,464 as, like, kings and icons of the horror film 870 00:32:44,505 --> 00:32:45,983 because they were creating special effects 871 00:32:46,007 --> 00:32:47,508 that were out of this world. 872 00:32:47,550 --> 00:32:49,844 Like something we'd never seen before. 873 00:32:49,886 --> 00:32:52,221 Vietnam was a lesson in anatomy for me. 874 00:32:52,263 --> 00:32:54,182 I was a combat photographer. 875 00:32:54,223 --> 00:32:55,892 I saw horrible stuff. 876 00:32:55,933 --> 00:32:57,578 In fact, I'm the only make-up artist, I think, 877 00:32:57,602 --> 00:32:59,770 - that has seen the real stuff. - [screaming] 878 00:32:59,812 --> 00:33:01,439 - [shrieking] - In a movie, 879 00:33:01,481 --> 00:33:04,650 when someone dies they close their mouth 880 00:33:04,692 --> 00:33:06,086 and they wanna look pretty for the camera... 881 00:33:06,110 --> 00:33:07,652 [funereal music] 882 00:33:07,653 --> 00:33:09,697 And that just takes me right out of it, 883 00:33:09,739 --> 00:33:11,800 because that actor doesn't know how to portray death, 884 00:33:11,824 --> 00:33:14,368 or the director doesn't know to tell them... 885 00:33:14,410 --> 00:33:16,704 the mouth always goes slack. 886 00:33:16,746 --> 00:33:18,873 [dark music] 887 00:33:18,915 --> 00:33:21,000 My masterpiece is "Day of the Dead." 888 00:33:21,042 --> 00:33:23,669 ♪♪ 889 00:33:23,711 --> 00:33:25,755 [moaning] 890 00:33:25,796 --> 00:33:28,216 There a lot of cool stuff in, uh... in "Day of the Dead." 891 00:33:28,257 --> 00:33:29,550 ♪♪ 892 00:33:29,592 --> 00:33:31,135 We cut the guy's arm off, you know. 893 00:33:31,177 --> 00:33:32,929 I dug a hole under the guy 894 00:33:32,970 --> 00:33:34,805 so his real arm goes into the hole. 895 00:33:34,847 --> 00:33:36,974 ♪♪ 896 00:33:37,016 --> 00:33:38,768 And tearing Taso's head off... 897 00:33:38,809 --> 00:33:40,394 [screaming] 898 00:33:40,436 --> 00:33:43,189 And it's actually Greg Nicotero's fingers 899 00:33:43,231 --> 00:33:45,191 in the eyeballs of the fake head, 900 00:33:45,233 --> 00:33:46,609 and we're running cables down 901 00:33:46,651 --> 00:33:48,110 to make the head work, you know, 902 00:33:48,152 --> 00:33:49,862 so it was effects guys 903 00:33:49,904 --> 00:33:52,323 that were the featured zombies tearing the head off. 904 00:33:52,365 --> 00:33:53,824 My head comes back 905 00:33:53,866 --> 00:33:55,993 as a zombie head in "Day of the Dead." 906 00:33:56,035 --> 00:33:58,412 You gotta think about the way that Tom designed things, 907 00:33:58,454 --> 00:33:59,681 because he approached everything 908 00:33:59,705 --> 00:34:01,249 like it was a magic trick. 909 00:34:01,290 --> 00:34:03,018 You know, the idea that you're... you're taking 910 00:34:03,042 --> 00:34:06,045 a special effect and you're deconstructing it 911 00:34:06,087 --> 00:34:09,090 to the point where it's gotta be a magic trick that's gonna 912 00:34:09,131 --> 00:34:11,050 - fool the audience. - The disembowelments 913 00:34:11,092 --> 00:34:12,593 in "Day of the Dead" are unmatched. 914 00:34:12,635 --> 00:34:14,720 - [zombies groaning] - [gasping] 915 00:34:14,762 --> 00:34:16,847 Without a doubt, and that's why you get into... 916 00:34:16,889 --> 00:34:19,892 people who... who watch movies and get... get offended 917 00:34:19,934 --> 00:34:21,644 by the... the gore, and you're like, 918 00:34:21,686 --> 00:34:23,896 "Well, you know it's corn syrup..." 919 00:34:23,938 --> 00:34:25,457 - It's a real presentation. - Red powered... 920 00:34:25,481 --> 00:34:26,899 red powdered food coloring. 921 00:34:26,941 --> 00:34:28,651 Miller! 922 00:34:28,693 --> 00:34:30,570 - Miller! - [screaming] 923 00:34:30,611 --> 00:34:33,990 The special makeup effects pioneered by Tom Savini 924 00:34:34,031 --> 00:34:35,992 and Greg Nicotero on "Day of the Dead"... 925 00:34:36,033 --> 00:34:37,618 - [growling] - Led directly 926 00:34:37,660 --> 00:34:39,495 to the amazing work we see today 927 00:34:39,537 --> 00:34:41,956 on "The Walking Dead." 928 00:34:41,998 --> 00:34:44,542 The kind of household I grew up in was, you know, 929 00:34:44,584 --> 00:34:46,168 "Oh, you can't go see 'Day of the Dead.' 930 00:34:46,210 --> 00:34:47,712 That's too... that's too much." 931 00:34:47,753 --> 00:34:50,047 But now you see, uh, 932 00:34:50,089 --> 00:34:53,217 the level of gore that we saw in George Romero's, uh, 933 00:34:53,259 --> 00:34:56,012 "Day of the Dead" on "Walking Dead" every week, 934 00:34:56,053 --> 00:34:57,555 which is insane to me. 935 00:34:57,597 --> 00:34:59,015 [sinister music] 936 00:35:01,892 --> 00:35:03,394 [engine revving] 937 00:35:03,436 --> 00:35:05,313 [tense music] 938 00:35:05,354 --> 00:35:07,565 [zombies growling] 939 00:35:07,607 --> 00:35:09,317 ♪♪ 940 00:35:09,358 --> 00:35:11,152 Go to the left! 941 00:35:11,193 --> 00:35:12,695 ♪♪ 942 00:35:12,737 --> 00:35:14,739 In the wake of a zombie apocalypse, 943 00:35:14,780 --> 00:35:16,532 a small band of survivors 944 00:35:16,574 --> 00:35:19,160 look for a safe place to live. 945 00:35:19,201 --> 00:35:21,829 The biggest threat they face aren't zombies, 946 00:35:21,871 --> 00:35:24,040 but other people. 947 00:35:24,081 --> 00:35:26,917 This is the premise of "The Walking Dead," 948 00:35:26,959 --> 00:35:29,879 the TV series that brought realistic horror 949 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,048 to the small screen. 950 00:35:32,089 --> 00:35:33,758 [door creaking] 951 00:35:33,799 --> 00:35:36,385 [snarling] 952 00:35:36,427 --> 00:35:38,280 People used to come to me and say, "Can you make us 953 00:35:38,304 --> 00:35:40,014 a violent TV series?" 954 00:35:40,056 --> 00:35:41,783 And I'd say, "Well, what makes horror work is you... 955 00:35:41,807 --> 00:35:43,535 "is you have the threat of killing your characters, 956 00:35:43,559 --> 00:35:46,103 "and what TV... what makes TV work is you want to see 957 00:35:46,145 --> 00:35:47,813 - those characters every week..." - Right. 958 00:35:47,855 --> 00:35:49,458 So you can't have them almost die, and I could never 959 00:35:49,482 --> 00:35:50,667 - do the violence I wanted to do. - Yeah, yeah. 960 00:35:50,691 --> 00:35:52,151 - Cut to... - Here we are. 961 00:35:52,193 --> 00:35:53,944 Greg Nicotero and "The Walking Dead." 962 00:35:53,986 --> 00:35:56,947 [dramatic music] 963 00:35:56,989 --> 00:35:58,074 ♪♪ 964 00:35:58,115 --> 00:35:59,909 "The Walking Dead" for sure 965 00:35:59,950 --> 00:36:03,079 is the next cultural milestone 966 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,265 really since "Dawn of the Dead" and "Night of the Living Dead." 967 00:36:05,289 --> 00:36:07,208 And, you know, that's really been you. 968 00:36:07,249 --> 00:36:08,876 [hooves clattering] 969 00:36:08,918 --> 00:36:11,837 "Walking Dead" is basically a Western with... 970 00:36:11,879 --> 00:36:13,839 with the zombie, uh, apocalypse 971 00:36:13,881 --> 00:36:15,466 set as the backdrop. 972 00:36:15,508 --> 00:36:18,010 If "The Walking Dead" had to be told 973 00:36:18,052 --> 00:36:20,680 in a 2½ hour time slot, you'd never be able to do it. 974 00:36:20,721 --> 00:36:22,199 You wouldn't care about the characters. 975 00:36:22,223 --> 00:36:23,700 You wouldn't really know who Daryl is... 976 00:36:23,724 --> 00:36:25,226 - Yeah. - Who... who Rick is. 977 00:36:25,267 --> 00:36:27,186 I'm sorry this happened to you. 978 00:36:27,228 --> 00:36:29,063 [growling] 979 00:36:29,105 --> 00:36:31,857 The plight of the survivors is a dark reflection 980 00:36:31,899 --> 00:36:34,318 of life in America today. 981 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,613 The mortgage crisis of 2008 resulted in more than 982 00:36:37,655 --> 00:36:39,657 3 million people losing their homes. 983 00:36:39,699 --> 00:36:41,701 Problems with the housing market... 984 00:36:41,742 --> 00:36:44,412 Since then, rising housing prices 985 00:36:44,453 --> 00:36:46,497 in the major cities have forced more people 986 00:36:46,539 --> 00:36:49,083 - to live on the street. - Global meltdown. 987 00:36:49,125 --> 00:36:51,502 There's a sense that civilization is fragile. 988 00:36:51,544 --> 00:36:53,170 That any day now, 989 00:36:53,212 --> 00:36:56,298 we could be like Rick, Daryl, and Carol, 990 00:36:56,340 --> 00:36:57,883 always moving, 991 00:36:57,925 --> 00:37:00,344 surrounded by threats on every side. 992 00:37:00,386 --> 00:37:03,222 [zombies snarling] 993 00:37:03,264 --> 00:37:04,950 That's what I always loved... when "Walking Dead" came out, 994 00:37:04,974 --> 00:37:06,910 I would say to people, like, "If the zombie apocalypse 995 00:37:06,934 --> 00:37:08,686 "were real, this is the closest thing 996 00:37:08,728 --> 00:37:11,689 "that I've seen to what that would probably feel like 997 00:37:11,731 --> 00:37:13,315 and be like." 998 00:37:13,357 --> 00:37:16,068 When I first read that script, I didn't... 999 00:37:16,110 --> 00:37:18,195 you know, I didn't read it as a zombie thing. 1000 00:37:18,237 --> 00:37:20,030 I read it as this guy lost his family, 1001 00:37:20,072 --> 00:37:21,675 and he woke up, and he didn't know where he was. 1002 00:37:21,699 --> 00:37:23,491 And he was gonna do anything 1003 00:37:23,492 --> 00:37:25,120 to go find his family, and that's... 1004 00:37:25,161 --> 00:37:27,455 that stuck out on the page way more than a zombie 1005 00:37:27,496 --> 00:37:28,998 here and there, you know? 1006 00:37:29,039 --> 00:37:30,499 And everybody played it like that. 1007 00:37:30,541 --> 00:37:32,209 [somber music] 1008 00:37:32,251 --> 00:37:34,295 You have to play everything as real as possible. 1009 00:37:34,336 --> 00:37:36,213 - [snarling] - [indistinct] 1010 00:37:36,255 --> 00:37:37,858 There's so many examples on that show where, like... 1011 00:37:37,882 --> 00:37:39,109 You're like, "Oh, my God, is this gonna work?" 1012 00:37:39,133 --> 00:37:40,634 - And the actors... - No, no, no! 1013 00:37:40,676 --> 00:37:42,678 Just pulled it out and made it perfect. 1014 00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:45,014 [screaming] No! 1015 00:37:45,055 --> 00:37:47,683 - [grunts] - She was playing with me! 1016 00:37:47,725 --> 00:37:50,311 - She wanted a friend! - She wanted to kill you! 1017 00:37:50,352 --> 00:37:52,480 I was gonna lead her away! 1018 00:37:52,521 --> 00:37:54,249 - You could have died. - It's the same thing! 1019 00:37:54,273 --> 00:37:56,734 You killed her! You killed her! 1020 00:37:56,776 --> 00:37:58,044 There's a reason there wasn't really 1021 00:37:58,068 --> 00:38:00,654 a zombie TV show before. 1022 00:38:00,696 --> 00:38:02,281 [dark music] 1023 00:38:02,323 --> 00:38:03,908 - Ugh... - Effects need 1024 00:38:03,949 --> 00:38:05,659 to be really good on a television show 1025 00:38:05,701 --> 00:38:08,287 so that people don't fall out of the reality 1026 00:38:08,329 --> 00:38:10,664 that you're trying to sell. 1027 00:38:10,706 --> 00:38:12,958 The best zombies, I think, are what Greg is doing 1028 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,960 in "The Walking Dead." The best zombies today. 1029 00:38:15,002 --> 00:38:16,837 Uh, and there's a lot of CGI there, you know, 1030 00:38:16,879 --> 00:38:19,924 and necessary, because the zombies 1031 00:38:19,965 --> 00:38:21,759 have been around for so long, 1032 00:38:21,801 --> 00:38:25,054 now they're decaying and rotting, you know? 1033 00:38:25,095 --> 00:38:26,931 - [gagging] - Just a little more. 1034 00:38:26,972 --> 00:38:28,891 - [gurgling] - There's that one famous... 1035 00:38:28,933 --> 00:38:30,976 - the "well walker..." - Stop! 1036 00:38:31,018 --> 00:38:32,520 - Come on! - Where he's just 1037 00:38:32,561 --> 00:38:34,188 so waterlogged and bloated 1038 00:38:34,230 --> 00:38:36,315 that he just sort of, like, comes apart. 1039 00:38:36,357 --> 00:38:38,317 - [all grunting] - [gurgling] 1040 00:38:38,359 --> 00:38:43,906 ♪♪ 1041 00:38:43,948 --> 00:38:45,658 That's one of the beautiful things 1042 00:38:45,699 --> 00:38:48,869 that Greg does, is his team... 1043 00:38:48,911 --> 00:38:51,163 you can see the lost person 1044 00:38:51,205 --> 00:38:52,832 behind the monster, you know? 1045 00:38:52,873 --> 00:38:54,750 That's... that's when they become scary. 1046 00:38:54,792 --> 00:38:57,586 I never get sick of it, honestly. 1047 00:38:57,628 --> 00:38:59,189 They keep... they keep reinventing the wheel 1048 00:38:59,213 --> 00:39:01,423 - with the zombies, it's nuts. - [growling] 1049 00:39:01,465 --> 00:39:03,843 ♪♪ 1050 00:39:03,884 --> 00:39:06,846 Obviously the... the irony is, who are the walking dead? 1051 00:39:06,887 --> 00:39:08,973 Is it the actual zombies or is the people? 1052 00:39:09,014 --> 00:39:10,575 - Right, right. - Uh, what are they willing 1053 00:39:10,599 --> 00:39:12,226 to do to each other to survive? 1054 00:39:12,268 --> 00:39:13,537 - And that's... - Yeah, at what point 1055 00:39:13,561 --> 00:39:15,437 - do you lose your humanity? - Right. 1056 00:39:15,479 --> 00:39:17,982 "Walking Dead" being on for so long surprises me, 1057 00:39:18,023 --> 00:39:21,277 'cause y'all should be dead by now, man. 1058 00:39:21,318 --> 00:39:23,320 [snarling] 1059 00:39:23,362 --> 00:39:25,239 You know, because it doesn't make sense. 1060 00:39:25,281 --> 00:39:27,283 - To me. - [snarling] 1061 00:39:27,324 --> 00:39:29,159 [gasping, whimpering] 1062 00:39:29,201 --> 00:39:31,871 Doesn't it feel like zombies are cresting now, too? 1063 00:39:31,912 --> 00:39:34,206 Yeah, right now it does seem like we're in the middle 1064 00:39:34,248 --> 00:39:36,250 of a zombie apocalypse. 1065 00:39:36,292 --> 00:39:38,961 [procession chanting] 1066 00:39:39,003 --> 00:39:40,421 Yeah. 1067 00:39:40,462 --> 00:39:42,923 The dumbing down of society. 1068 00:39:46,010 --> 00:39:47,928 We're all zombies. 1069 00:39:47,970 --> 00:39:51,056 [zombies snarling] 1070 00:39:51,098 --> 00:39:52,892 Zombies are representative 1071 00:39:52,933 --> 00:39:54,894 of... of Alzheimer's... 1072 00:39:54,935 --> 00:39:56,478 a just terrifying disease. 1073 00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,107 And zombies are representatives of cancer. 1074 00:40:00,149 --> 00:40:02,026 To me, what's happened with the zombie 1075 00:40:02,067 --> 00:40:04,320 is now they're representatives of anarchy 1076 00:40:04,361 --> 00:40:06,405 and the collapse of government. 1077 00:40:06,447 --> 00:40:08,407 The collapse of order. 1078 00:40:08,449 --> 00:40:10,326 [menacing music] 1079 00:40:10,367 --> 00:40:13,454 Zombies are really sort of a wonderful catch-all metaphor 1080 00:40:13,495 --> 00:40:15,372 because they can mean absolutely anything. 1081 00:40:15,414 --> 00:40:17,082 - [screaming] - Zombies in 1968 1082 00:40:17,124 --> 00:40:19,251 are the breakdown of American society. 1083 00:40:19,293 --> 00:40:20,711 [zombies groaning] 1084 00:40:20,753 --> 00:40:23,380 In 2017 with "The Walking Dead..." 1085 00:40:26,550 --> 00:40:29,929 uh, who knows what it represents. 1086 00:40:29,970 --> 00:40:32,264 [zombies growling] 1087 00:40:35,517 --> 00:40:38,604 One take-away could be that everything's hopeless... 1088 00:40:38,646 --> 00:40:40,564 [distant shouting] 1089 00:40:40,606 --> 00:40:42,066 [exclaims] 1090 00:40:42,107 --> 00:40:44,777 Another take-away could be that humans 1091 00:40:44,818 --> 00:40:48,322 will always persevere even when... 1092 00:40:48,364 --> 00:40:50,240 it seems like there's no reason to 1093 00:40:50,282 --> 00:40:51,909 or that it's impossible to. 1094 00:40:51,951 --> 00:40:53,410 [gunfire] 1095 00:40:53,452 --> 00:40:54,995 [zombies snarling] 1096 00:40:55,037 --> 00:40:56,538 Yeah, zombies will never die. 1097 00:40:56,580 --> 00:40:58,082 No pun intended. [laughing] 1098 00:40:58,123 --> 00:41:00,668 - [babbling] - [screaming] 1099 00:41:00,709 --> 00:41:03,337 It's so interesting, the resurgence of zombies, 1100 00:41:03,379 --> 00:41:05,714 and the fact that they kind of won't ever go away. 1101 00:41:05,756 --> 00:41:08,092 [zombies snarling] 1102 00:41:08,133 --> 00:41:09,593 We'll always be telling stories. 1103 00:41:09,635 --> 00:41:11,595 I think we'll... we're never gonna lose 1104 00:41:11,637 --> 00:41:13,305 our fascination with them. 1105 00:41:13,347 --> 00:41:15,015 Half a century ago, 1106 00:41:15,057 --> 00:41:17,685 George Romero created the modern zombie... 1107 00:41:17,726 --> 00:41:20,771 America's great contribution to monster horror. 1108 00:41:20,813 --> 00:41:22,648 [sinister music] 1109 00:41:22,690 --> 00:41:25,693 Now, zombie movies are an international phenomenon. 1110 00:41:25,734 --> 00:41:27,319 ♪♪ 1111 00:41:27,361 --> 00:41:29,738 The zombie plague has infected the world. 1112 00:41:29,780 --> 00:41:31,323 - [screams] - As relentless 1113 00:41:31,365 --> 00:41:33,158 and unstoppable 1114 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,452 as the flesh-eating undead. 1115 00:41:35,494 --> 00:41:42,376 ♪♪ 1116 00:41:42,418 --> 00:41:45,212 We wake them and we got it all! 81370

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