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Is there someone inside you?
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I love, love,
love possession films.
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Sink.
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Possession stories
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touch on our fear
of losing control...
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control of our bodies,
of our lives, of our mind.
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One day, we could be
our normal selves,
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and the next day
be a raging lunatic
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spouting arcane languages
or obscenities.
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The sow is mine.
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both: The power of
Christ compels you!
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"The Exorcist" is held up
as being the holy grail,
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rightfully so,
of possession movies.
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I'm the devil.
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The world was afraid
of this movie,
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and they were afraid of me.
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"The Omen" is like
my hands-down
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favorite horror movie.
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Look at me, Damien.
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There's just something
inherently creepy about kids.
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Your loved one is not
who you assumed they were,
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and we saw that
to wonderful effect
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in both
of the "Evil Dead" films.
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You're bitten by your
girlfriend who's possessed.
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Your hand's
gonna get possessed,
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so your hand's
gonna attack you.
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Looks like something bit you.
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"Paranormal Activity"
was a game-changer for me.
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It was a new way in.
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Get out.
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"Get Out"
is a possession film.
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It is a possession film.
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A force that's evil.
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They have nothing
but bad intentions for you.
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Oh, my God!
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What am I seeing happen?
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The fear that demons
will enter our bodies
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and make us do terrible things
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has haunted mankind
for millennia.
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In recent times,
it has inspired some of
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the most frightening films
ever made...
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Fever dreams like
"Night of the Demons"
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and "Hellraiser"...
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We'll tear your soul apart.
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Fictionalized
case histories,
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such as "The Exorcism
of Emily Rose"
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and "The Last Exorcism."
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The nightmare of being taken
over by a sinister force
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can be seen as a metaphor
for mental illness,
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but what if these films
reflect a deeper truth...
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a truth about the nature
of good and evil?
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In the name of Jesus Christ,
the saints, and all the angels,
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I command you
to reveal yourself!
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Demons are real.
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We're so used
to seeing the world
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in just very few dimensions...
time and space,
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depth and appearance.
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There is so much more at work
in our universe
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than that which
just meets the naked eye.
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Though our fears
are ancient,
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films about demonic
possession
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are a relatively
recent phenomenon.
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Hollywood's self-censoring
Motion Picture Production Code
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set strict rules on content
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from the early 1930s
to the late 1960s.
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There is no room
on the screen
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at any time for pictures which
offend against common decency.
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Outside of the Swedish film
"Haxan" from 1922,
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full-on demonic possessions
do not appear on screen
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until 1973...
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the year of "The Exorcist."
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Obviously, "The Exorcist"
is held up
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as being the holy grail,
rightfully so,
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of possession movies.
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"The Exorcist"
is about a priest
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that had his own demons
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he had been following
years prior.
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Years later, he finds himself
in the same position
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with this same demon,
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but this time,
it's inside of a young girl.
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The whole thing was to
draw in Father Merrin
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to get him to do war...
battle one more time.
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Captain Howdy?
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Linda Blair's character,
Regan,
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becomes another person because
this demon is inside of her.
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- I'm Damien Karras.
- And I'm the devil.
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Now kindly undo
these straps.
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If you're the devil, why not
make the straps disappear?
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That's much too vulgar
a display of power, Karras.
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Satan plays the role
of Satan.
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I don't know if that's Satan
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or a bunch of demons.
Doesn't matter.
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- Where's Regan?
- In here with us.
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The actor is really the one
selling the idea of possession.
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So you've got to have
a great actor
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to play somebody
who's possessed.
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- Ahh!
- Oh!
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Keep away! The sow is mine!
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Billy Friedkin, the director,
really wanted to make sure
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that Regan was just any generic
all-American little girl.
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Her transformation
from this very sweet,
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very typical young girl...
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Oh, Mom,
can't we get a horse?
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Into a monster I think
comments on this anxiety
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that the young people
of the country were moving away
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from the conservative
norms of society.
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It was 1973,
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so we were recently
out of Vietnam,
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and the hippie movement
was still in full swing.
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There was definitely
upheaval going on,
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social upheaval going on,
and generational conflict.
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You have a mother who's
trying to deal with a daughter
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who has suddenly become
something else,
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and this is what
a lot of parents felt like.
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The horror stuff
doesn't really come in
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until, like, the second half,
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but the first half
is all sort of upsetting images
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and strange depictions
of medical procedures.
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It isn't just that medical
science is inadequate;
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it's that medical science
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is even kind of destructive
toward the child.
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Religion is really
the only answer.
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You ever heard of exorcism?
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By the time
the horror stuff happens,
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the audience is pretty
much desensitized.
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They're already pummeled by
the movie that they've seen,
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and it was extremely
manipulative,
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and not a very nice movie
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in the sense of being good
to the audience.
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Every time they track down
the hallway to the door,
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the audience did not...
they wanted to but didn't...
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"Yes, no, yes, no"...
to go into that door.
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It's a hard movie to watch.
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What happens to Linda Blair
is just... it's terrible.
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The scene where I'm sitting
up and down really fast.
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Please, Mother, make it stop!
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It's basically, like,
a metal brace,
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and then I'm tied in
on each side.
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Unfortunately, they didn't
tie it in really good.
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It fractured my lower spine,
so that's what's on camera,
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and the screaming
and yelling is real.
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Make it stop!
It's killing me!
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My mother had gotten
a call saying,
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"Can Jamie audition
for 'The Exorcist'?"
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And my mother said,
"Uh, no. I don't think so."
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And then it came out,
and we screened it
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for my 15th birthday.
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"The Exorcist."
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Your mother's in here
with us, Karras.
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Would you like
to leave a message?
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It freaked me so badly
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that for the rest
of my high school life,
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my friends made fun of me,
and they would taunt me.
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"Dami. Dami. Dami, why you
do this to me, Dami?"
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Dami.
Why you do this to me?
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"Dami, why you do this
to me, Dami?"
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You're not my mother!
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That movie scared me so much
that I'm Jewish,
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and it made me
believe in the devil.
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I would sleep with a rosary
next to my bed every night.
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I have full-blown
"Exorcist" PTSD, so...
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What an excellent day
for an exorcism.
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The whole thing about
"The Exorcist" was, like,
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it may be too intense
for human beings.
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That it wasn't just
a horror film in '73
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when it came out; it was...
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You were
experiencing the devil.
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Yeah, and that people, like,
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committed suicide
after they saw "The Exorcist,"
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or people were put in
insane asylums
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after they saw "The Exorcist,"
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and every new issue of
the "National Enquirer" had,
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you know, "My son went crazy
and is in a straitjacket.
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How watching
'The Exorcist' ruined my life."
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I dream of reviews
like that.
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People went back
to the church in droves
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after that film came out.
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The world was afraid
of this movie...
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and they were afraid of me,
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and they wanted to have answers
about good and evil
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and was the devil
really coming?
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There's no place
to hide... your religion,
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your relationship to God.
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No, none of that.
There's no safe haven anywhere.
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Even the afterlife isn't safe.
I mean, you're gonna get there
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and be in hell
like poor Father Damien.
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I mean, it's this idea that
there's literally no escape,
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not even if you're dead.
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That is, you know,
to me the idea of pure horror.
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No!
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I think it's the greatest
horror film ever made,
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and that's the horror film
that I think that will never
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be duplicated, all right?
I don't see...
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I agree. I don't think
it'll ever be beat.
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"The Exorcist" drew on
all the resources
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of Hollywood in the 1970s,
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one of the peak periods
of American film.
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Decades later,
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a first-time director
shooting in his house
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proved you don't need a big
budget or special effects
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to bring a demonic possession
to terrifying life.
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I can feel it watching me.
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In 2007, software engineer
Oren Peli
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decided to make
a low-budget movie
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about a demonic possession.
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The result was
"Paranormal Activity,"
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the most profitable film
of all time,
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and one of the most
unnerving movies ever made.
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Oren made the movie
for $15,000.
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He shot it at his house.
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He had a crew
of about three people.
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And the crew consisted of
my girlfriend at the time,
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and then my best friend,
Amir, I told him,
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"I'm gonna shoot a movie.
Do you want to help me?"
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And he said,
"Sure. It sounds fun,
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but I don't know anything
about making movies."
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I said, "Perfect.
Neither do I."
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All right,
we're operational, babe.
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Ooh.
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Shot entirely in
the found footage style,
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the story follows
Micah and Katie,
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a young suburban couple
who move into a new house
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that seems to be haunted.
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In fact, Katie is being
tormented by a demon
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that feeds
off of negative energy.
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both:
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out there.
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Aah!
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There is a difference
between a ghost and a demon.
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Ghosts are simply the spirits
of people who died.
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They don't want to move on,
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and they kind of linger around
in their own dimension.
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But demons
are inherently evil,
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want to possess people...
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Feel it?
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I feel it breathing on me.
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But a demon is attached
to a person.
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Leaving the house
doesn't really solve anything.
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They're still gonna follow you
wherever you're gonna go.
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It's not the house.
It's me.
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You know,
wherever I go, it goes.
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Micah sets up cameras
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to record
the supernatural events,
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which makes things worse.
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It felt very much like
what would happen to anyone
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if they were
going through that.
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What is your quest?
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The sounds,
wanting to record it,
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playing with the Ouija board.
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Got something to say?
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- That moment...
- When he was talking to
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- a Ouija board.
- Yeah.
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- You're like...
- Oh, I was like,
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"Run, mother. Run!"
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As the couple grows
more desperate,
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the demon trying
to possess Katie
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grows stronger and stronger.
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Just let's go.
Please, let's go.
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"Paranormal Activity"
was a game-changer for me,
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because it just showed,
with a minimalist approach,
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you can scare the out
of people with mostly pacing...
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- Mm-hmm.
- And the way
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you tell the story.
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I mean, like,
what happens in that movie?
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A couple sheets come off,
you know, the bed,
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the girl gets pulled
through the door,
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and yet, when they come up on,
like, day 28 or whatnot,
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and you know some
about to go down,
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I remember the entire audience
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going, "Ohhh."
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Aaaaaahhhhh!
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Oh...
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There's something about
the vulnerability
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that you have
while you're asleep,
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and which I think is
something very kind of
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engrained in human nature
from the days we were cavemen,
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and you don't know if a tiger
is gonna come into your cave
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and kill you
while you're asleep.
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And the fact that that movie
shattered that space and said,
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"Well, when you go
home tonight,
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"you're gonna be thinking
about what this couple
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endured in that bedroom,"
it's incredibly effective.
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"Paranormal Activity's"
goal was simple:
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to scare the audience.
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Jen?
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The horror/comedy
"Jennifer's Body"
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had a serious
and uniquely feminist agenda,
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using demonic possession
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to comment on the hell
of being a teenage girl
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in a culture
obsessed with appearance.
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Hi, Jennifer.
You look really pretty.
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What up, Craig?
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Jennifer is a alpha
female bitch
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who is beautiful and popular,
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and Needy is her
worshipful nerdy friend.
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Jennifer is actually
a really intelligent,
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clever, interesting person,
but nobody cares about that.
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Jennifer is cursed
before she is cursed,
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because all people can do
is look at her,
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as opposed to engage
with her.
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It's an incredibly dehumanized
place to be living in.
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She does have
this incredible power
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that comes with her beauty.
She uses it.
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These are like
smart bombs, okay?
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You point them
in the right direction,
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and gets real.
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But it's not nearly
as satisfying to her
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as when she actually gets
these supernatural powers.
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Jennifer is the victim of
a demonic ritual gone wrong.
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This rock band, in an attempt
to become famous...
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Do you know how hard it is
to make it
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as an indie band these days?
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Attempt to murder her because
they think she is a virgin
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and that they are
sacrificing a virgin.
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But she is not a virgin,
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and as a result,
the spell goes haywire,
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and Jennifer is possessed
by a demon
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and starts eating boys
to satisfy the demon,
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and Needy has to stop her.
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I am rooting for Jennifer
when I watch the movie.
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This idea of just being,
like, hot and invincible...
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I feel so scrumptious.
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Was about how teenage girls
are objectified,
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it was about
female sexual appetites.
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It was about the idea
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of puberty
being a transformative thing
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and using a sort of
a monstrous transformation
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as a way of talking about that.
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Are you scared?
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The notion of the female
as monstrous
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in itself has been
a central tenet of horror,
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and that's what remains
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profoundly meaningful
to me about horror
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is it's one of the few genres
that's had the guts to say,
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as a culture, we are terrified
of women and girls.
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Hi.
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But it was so freeing
for me
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to be able to explore
those themes in a completely
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just heightened gory
bananas atmosphere.
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You know, they have this fight
at the end of the movie,
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and Needy stabs
Jennifer in the heart,
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and it's like my way
of saying, like,
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"You're all staring
at this girl's breasts..."
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- My tit.
- No. Your heart.
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But what this is really
about is her feelings.
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You don't get to do
over-the-top stuff like that
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in a more understated genre.
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You can only do that
in a horror movie.
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You know what?
You were never a good friend.
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"Jennifer's Body"
got a mixed reception
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on its release,
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but the director's cut
is now a cult favorite.
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You got a tampon?
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Stylistically,
it owes a debt
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to one of the most influential
cult movies of all time:
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"The Evil Dead."
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When it comes to demonic
possession movies,
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few can match the manic energy
and no-holds-barred horror
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of Sam Raimi's film,
"The Evil Dead."
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Hey, Scotty, what's this
place like, anyway?
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Well, the guy
that's renting it says
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it's an old place...
a little run down,
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but it's right up
in the mountains.
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"The Evil Dead"
is about a group
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of fairly dumb college kids
who go out to a remote cabin
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in the woods
to have a fun little break.
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They see the cabin.
They should be running
368
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in the opposite direction
to the nearest Motel 6,
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but instead, they go in.
They promptly find
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a reel-to-reel recorder
in the basement,
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which of course they play.
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It contains
demonic incantations
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that wake up the dead.
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Shut it off!
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Oh, my God!
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Dead rise and proceed
to possess these kids
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one by one, and carnage
and mayhem ensues.
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Oh!
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It seems like
the simplest setup,
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but man,
oh, man, it was relentless.
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And you're just,
like, blown away.
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Why have you disturbed
our sleep,
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awakened us from our
ancient slumber?
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You will die!
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What is fascinating
about the possession genre
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of horror films
is your loved one
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is not who
you assumed they were.
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That's the most
terrifying thing,
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00:19:13,153 --> 00:19:15,447
and we saw that
to wonderful effect
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00:19:15,489 --> 00:19:17,032
in both of
the "Evil Dead" films.
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And it was this grainy,
16-millimeter movie
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that you could tell was,
like, made by amateurs
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with that kind of, like,
single-spotlight lighting
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and everything else.
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But at the same time
was really scary,
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00:19:38,553 --> 00:19:40,681
and... I mean, Sam was trying
to make a scary movie.
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The first person had to get
injured by one of these demons,
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so we did it the first
character's kneeling down,
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00:19:49,981 --> 00:19:53,443
and the demon gets a pencil
and stabs it in the ankle.
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That one got a big reaction
out of the audience,
401
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'cause I don't think they knew
402
00:20:01,118 --> 00:20:04,246
how visceral the movie
was gonna be until it started.
403
00:20:04,287 --> 00:20:07,040
I fear that the only way
to stop those possessed
404
00:20:07,082 --> 00:20:08,667
by the spirits of the book
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00:20:08,709 --> 00:20:11,420
is through the act
of bodily dismemberment.
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00:20:11,461 --> 00:20:13,755
So whenever you hear that
you can only stop something
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00:20:13,797 --> 00:20:15,441
through bodily dismemberment,
you know you're gonna be in
408
00:20:15,465 --> 00:20:18,009
for a good show of gore
and horror, right?
409
00:20:24,516 --> 00:20:26,184
Ohh! Ohh!
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00:20:28,103 --> 00:20:31,982
There is always the standard
aspect of the scream queen...
411
00:20:35,777 --> 00:20:37,571
Sam wanted to up it.
412
00:20:37,612 --> 00:20:41,450
He thought it was one thing
to have a woman scream,
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00:20:41,491 --> 00:20:44,494
but what if you made
a man scream like a girl?
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00:20:49,916 --> 00:20:51,710
Like, "I want it to be
that horrifying."
415
00:20:57,382 --> 00:20:59,551
There was also something
else about "Evil Dead"
416
00:20:59,593 --> 00:21:01,887
that made it
particularly cool was,
417
00:21:01,928 --> 00:21:03,388
well, you had to get it.
418
00:21:03,430 --> 00:21:05,432
Not everyone could get it.
419
00:21:08,351 --> 00:21:10,312
It was cheap,
420
00:21:10,353 --> 00:21:13,607
so you had to be able to
not just look beyond that;
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00:21:13,648 --> 00:21:15,901
you had to embrace it.
422
00:21:19,196 --> 00:21:21,531
It is scary,
but there is a really weird
423
00:21:21,573 --> 00:21:25,494
sense of humor that,
if you're not in line with it,
424
00:21:25,535 --> 00:21:27,954
you're gonna think, "Oh,
that's just a piece of junk."
425
00:21:30,832 --> 00:21:33,418
In 1981, "The Evil Dead"
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00:21:33,460 --> 00:21:35,962
launched the career
of its gifted director,
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00:21:36,004 --> 00:21:38,340
21-year-old Sam Raimi.
428
00:21:39,758 --> 00:21:43,595
Six years later, Raimi
returned with "Evil Dead 2,"
429
00:21:43,637 --> 00:21:47,557
a wildly creative remake
of the first film.
430
00:21:47,599 --> 00:21:49,309
With "Evil Dead 2"
in particular,
431
00:21:49,351 --> 00:21:50,977
I think Sam Raimi just said,
432
00:21:51,019 --> 00:21:53,104
"You know what?
Let's just go for it."
433
00:21:54,773 --> 00:21:56,358
Let's just embrace the fun.
434
00:21:57,317 --> 00:21:59,236
You're bitten by your
girlfriend,
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00:21:59,277 --> 00:22:01,238
who's possessed, your hand's
gonna get possessed,
436
00:22:01,279 --> 00:22:02,989
so your hand's gonna
attack you.
437
00:22:07,410 --> 00:22:08,995
It was just a long,
grueling sequence.
438
00:22:14,543 --> 00:22:16,127
It's like,
get the Three Stooges,
439
00:22:16,169 --> 00:22:17,504
but give them a chainsaw...
440
00:22:19,798 --> 00:22:21,758
And see what would happen.
441
00:22:30,225 --> 00:22:31,977
Groovy.
442
00:22:32,018 --> 00:22:36,147
If you're a movie-mad
young guy in your early 20s
443
00:22:36,189 --> 00:22:38,817
and you see "Evil Dead 2,"
444
00:22:38,859 --> 00:22:40,944
and you see
that shooting style,
445
00:22:40,986 --> 00:22:43,154
it's like,
"Well, what's the point
446
00:22:43,196 --> 00:22:45,740
of ever shooting
any movie not like that?"
447
00:22:45,782 --> 00:22:47,659
- I know.
- All right? That seemed like,
448
00:22:47,701 --> 00:22:49,995
"Okay, a new shooting style
has been developed,
449
00:22:50,036 --> 00:22:52,581
and everything else looks
old-fashioned by comparison."
450
00:22:54,374 --> 00:22:56,293
Every single thing
just seems
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00:22:56,334 --> 00:22:58,044
old-fashioned and dated
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00:22:58,086 --> 00:22:59,504
unless you're doing that.
453
00:23:04,718 --> 00:23:06,636
"The Evil Dead"
pitted a regular guy
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00:23:06,678 --> 00:23:08,805
against a horde of demons,
455
00:23:08,847 --> 00:23:10,640
but what chance do you have
456
00:23:10,682 --> 00:23:13,560
when you're up
against Satan himself?
457
00:23:18,565 --> 00:23:20,150
Christianity teaches
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00:23:20,191 --> 00:23:21,586
that Jesus Christ
was the son of God,
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00:23:21,610 --> 00:23:23,153
born of mortal woman.
460
00:23:23,194 --> 00:23:25,405
What if Satan decided
that he too
461
00:23:25,447 --> 00:23:27,240
would father a child?
462
00:23:27,282 --> 00:23:31,411
In 1968, Roman Polanski's
film "Rosemary's Baby"
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00:23:31,453 --> 00:23:34,998
explored the links between
pregnancy, parenthood,
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00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,584
and demonic possession.
465
00:23:37,626 --> 00:23:39,461
You're pregnant.
466
00:23:39,502 --> 00:23:41,963
"Rosemary's Baby"
is a really interesting film,
467
00:23:42,005 --> 00:23:44,132
because, artistically,
it's one of the best films
468
00:23:44,174 --> 00:23:46,509
to come out in that era
and probably ever.
469
00:23:46,551 --> 00:23:50,555
- I'm Rosemary Woodhouse.
- Uh, we're in 7E.
470
00:23:50,597 --> 00:23:53,391
That movie made $30 million
471
00:23:53,433 --> 00:23:56,895
back when movies
didn't make $30 million,
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00:23:56,937 --> 00:23:59,230
not in their first run.
473
00:23:59,272 --> 00:24:04,110
I mean, if a movie
made $12 million, "Oh, wow."
474
00:24:04,152 --> 00:24:06,196
- That's a huge hit.
- That's a smash.
475
00:24:06,237 --> 00:24:08,281
- It's a phenomenon.
- It was a phenomenon.
476
00:24:08,323 --> 00:24:10,033
And the devil
had never been dealt with
477
00:24:10,075 --> 00:24:13,203
in that realistic
a form before.
478
00:24:13,244 --> 00:24:15,121
It's a hugely
important film,
479
00:24:15,163 --> 00:24:16,665
because it's portraying
a woman
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00:24:16,706 --> 00:24:19,542
at the height
of second-wave feminism.
481
00:24:19,584 --> 00:24:22,170
It also coincides
with a rise in interest
482
00:24:22,212 --> 00:24:24,965
in all kinds of alternative
religions and occultism
483
00:24:25,006 --> 00:24:26,633
that was happening
in the '60s.
484
00:24:26,675 --> 00:24:29,010
It was a period
where there was, you know,
485
00:24:29,052 --> 00:24:31,513
questioning, you know, God,
the existence of God.
486
00:24:31,554 --> 00:24:33,139
I think it was even on
"Time" magazine,
487
00:24:33,181 --> 00:24:34,683
you know, "Is God Dead?"
488
00:24:34,724 --> 00:24:37,102
No, you're not religious,
my dear, are you?
489
00:24:37,143 --> 00:24:40,522
I was brought up a Catholic.
Now I don't know.
490
00:24:40,563 --> 00:24:42,190
In "Rosemary's Baby,"
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00:24:42,232 --> 00:24:44,859
the heroine
is drugged by Satanists.
492
00:24:44,901 --> 00:24:47,821
Then the devil literally
enters her through rape.
493
00:24:47,862 --> 00:24:50,323
- She's awake. She sees.
- Can't see or hear.
494
00:24:50,365 --> 00:24:52,242
She's like dead. Now sing.
495
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,288
Rosemary becomes pregnant
with Satan's child.
496
00:24:57,330 --> 00:25:00,917
This is no dream.
This is really happening!
497
00:25:00,959 --> 00:25:04,004
"Rosemary's Baby"
was a possession movie.
498
00:25:04,045 --> 00:25:07,382
It was about someone carrying
the seed of Satan within her
499
00:25:07,424 --> 00:25:09,551
and giving birth
to Satan's child.
500
00:25:09,592 --> 00:25:14,764
This is actually
how Satan or his minions
501
00:25:14,806 --> 00:25:16,933
can infest each of us
502
00:25:16,975 --> 00:25:19,519
and draw out
the evil within us.
503
00:25:19,561 --> 00:25:21,813
It, to me,
remains a metaphor
504
00:25:21,855 --> 00:25:24,024
about domestic violence,
505
00:25:24,065 --> 00:25:27,360
about emotional violence
in relationships
506
00:25:27,402 --> 00:25:28,945
between men and women,
507
00:25:28,987 --> 00:25:31,448
largely inflicted
by men onto women.
508
00:25:31,489 --> 00:25:32,842
I didn't want to
miss baby night.
509
00:25:32,866 --> 00:25:34,367
You... while I was out?
510
00:25:34,409 --> 00:25:36,077
And a couple of my nails
were ragged,
511
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,123
and it was kind of fun
in a necrophile sort of way.
512
00:25:42,083 --> 00:25:43,978
When I saw "Rosemary's Baby"
when I was very young,
513
00:25:44,002 --> 00:25:46,313
I don't think I thought, "Oh,
this is female consciousness,"
514
00:25:46,337 --> 00:25:49,132
but obviously,
there aren't that many movies
515
00:25:49,174 --> 00:25:52,343
from within a young woman's
point of view.
516
00:25:52,385 --> 00:25:55,013
We know Polanski's guilty
of all these things
517
00:25:55,055 --> 00:25:57,724
in his personal life,
but as a filmmaker,
518
00:25:57,766 --> 00:26:00,769
he's incredibly sympathetic
to the female point of view.
519
00:26:00,810 --> 00:26:02,687
And the relationship
between Rosemary
520
00:26:02,729 --> 00:26:04,981
and her husband is fantastic.
521
00:26:04,982 --> 00:26:07,526
John Cassavetes'
amazing performance
522
00:26:07,567 --> 00:26:09,194
as the desperate actor
523
00:26:09,235 --> 00:26:11,488
who will do anything
to get that big break.
524
00:26:11,529 --> 00:26:13,531
Let's have a baby,
all right?
525
00:26:13,573 --> 00:26:15,366
Rosemary's very much
the lovely,
526
00:26:15,408 --> 00:26:17,660
submissive wife who is there
to help her husband out,
527
00:26:17,702 --> 00:26:19,537
and what that gets her
528
00:26:19,579 --> 00:26:22,082
is getting impregnated
by the devil.
529
00:26:22,123 --> 00:26:24,167
Her husband basically
sells her to Satan
530
00:26:24,209 --> 00:26:26,127
in exchange for a Broadway hit.
531
00:26:26,169 --> 00:26:28,713
Oh, I got the part.
532
00:26:28,755 --> 00:26:31,674
It was a hell of
a way to get it.
533
00:26:33,343 --> 00:26:34,945
One of the things
I really love about horror
534
00:26:34,969 --> 00:26:37,222
and the nightmares
that it touches on
535
00:26:37,263 --> 00:26:40,850
are the idea of security
and a stable, normal place
536
00:26:40,892 --> 00:26:43,019
that turns out
to be a place of danger,
537
00:26:43,061 --> 00:26:46,731
or a person who seems
to be a friendly person.
538
00:26:46,773 --> 00:26:48,413
And, of course,
one of the greatest things
539
00:26:48,441 --> 00:26:49,943
in "Rosemary's Baby"
is the neighbors.
540
00:26:51,694 --> 00:26:54,114
The central figure
in this patriarchal crush
541
00:26:54,155 --> 00:26:55,740
is Ruth Gordon.
542
00:26:55,782 --> 00:26:58,159
Hi there! We're not
bothering you, are we?
543
00:26:58,201 --> 00:27:00,537
I heard you come in.
It certainly wasn't very long.
544
00:27:00,578 --> 00:27:02,622
- Ta-da!
- Who comes in with her
545
00:27:02,664 --> 00:27:04,457
multicolored scarves
and her accent
546
00:27:04,499 --> 00:27:07,627
and delivers
a series of death blows
547
00:27:07,669 --> 00:27:11,131
to everything that
poor Rosemary stands for.
548
00:27:11,172 --> 00:27:13,758
- Here.
- What is in it? Tannis root?
549
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,095
A little bit of that,
a little bit some other things.
550
00:27:17,137 --> 00:27:19,764
They're the kind of neighbors
you kind of... all right...
551
00:27:19,806 --> 00:27:21,158
You sort of want to
avoid them...
552
00:27:21,182 --> 00:27:22,517
- Yeah.
- But you're nice to them.
553
00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:24,102
- They're nosy...
- They're harmless.
554
00:27:24,144 --> 00:27:26,146
They're harmless,
and that they are, you know,
555
00:27:26,187 --> 00:27:27,689
essentially agents of the...
556
00:27:27,730 --> 00:27:29,357
- of the devil.
- The devil.
557
00:27:29,399 --> 00:27:31,067
We're your friends,
Rosemary.
558
00:27:31,109 --> 00:27:33,111
There's nothing to be
afraid of, Rosemary.
559
00:27:33,153 --> 00:27:34,821
Honest and truly there isn't.
560
00:27:34,863 --> 00:27:37,073
Another thing that I think
young women
561
00:27:37,115 --> 00:27:39,242
really can relate to
in "Rosemary's Baby,"
562
00:27:39,284 --> 00:27:41,411
- no one believes her.
- One thing is for sure.
563
00:27:41,452 --> 00:27:43,705
They have a coven,
and they want my baby.
564
00:27:43,746 --> 00:27:47,041
Certainly seems that way.
565
00:27:47,083 --> 00:27:49,085
To me, there's no scarier
moment in the movie
566
00:27:49,127 --> 00:27:51,713
than when you realize
her doctor is...
567
00:27:51,754 --> 00:27:53,423
has turned on her.
568
00:27:53,464 --> 00:27:54,924
That feeling of the person
569
00:27:54,966 --> 00:27:56,443
that you've put
your ultimate trust in,
570
00:27:56,467 --> 00:27:58,052
like your obstetrician,
this guy who's,
571
00:27:58,094 --> 00:27:59,572
like, tending to your body
and your femininity,
572
00:27:59,596 --> 00:28:02,432
and he is handing you over
to the satanists.
573
00:28:02,473 --> 00:28:04,309
We're gonna go home
and rest.
574
00:28:04,350 --> 00:28:05,852
That's all it takes.
575
00:28:05,894 --> 00:28:08,104
Nothing supernatural
happens, actually,
576
00:28:08,146 --> 00:28:10,315
for the entire course
of the movie.
577
00:28:10,356 --> 00:28:12,233
You know,
she could just be paranoid.
578
00:28:12,275 --> 00:28:16,613
She could be suffering from
some weird pregnancy delusions.
579
00:28:24,245 --> 00:28:26,998
What have you done to it?
580
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,917
What have you done
to its eyes?
581
00:28:28,958 --> 00:28:31,169
He has his
father's eyes.
582
00:28:31,211 --> 00:28:33,129
It's not until
she actually says,
583
00:28:33,171 --> 00:28:35,547
"What have you done
to his eyes?"
584
00:28:35,548 --> 00:28:39,594
that there is finally
a physical manifestation
585
00:28:39,636 --> 00:28:40,970
of what
she's been talking about.
586
00:28:41,012 --> 00:28:42,847
- God is dead!
- Hail Satan!
587
00:28:42,889 --> 00:28:44,766
Satan lives!
588
00:28:44,807 --> 00:28:47,393
I made the mistake
of showing it to my wife
589
00:28:47,435 --> 00:28:49,979
after I got her impregnated.
590
00:28:50,021 --> 00:28:51,981
Oh, God!
591
00:28:52,023 --> 00:28:53,441
She's like,
"I've never seen it."
592
00:28:53,483 --> 00:28:54,835
"What? You've never seen
'Rosemary's Baby'?
593
00:28:54,859 --> 00:28:56,569
We're watching
'Rosemary's Baby. ""
594
00:28:56,611 --> 00:28:57,987
I didn't think about how weird
595
00:28:58,029 --> 00:29:00,156
that might be for someone
who was pregnant,
596
00:29:00,198 --> 00:29:01,950
and it really played
on her fears
597
00:29:01,991 --> 00:29:07,288
that we were gonna have
the antichrist as a child.
598
00:29:07,330 --> 00:29:08,915
Uh, it was a bad call.
599
00:29:08,957 --> 00:29:10,583
"Rosemary's Baby"
is a movie
600
00:29:10,625 --> 00:29:13,086
about the dark side
of pregnancy.
601
00:29:13,127 --> 00:29:14,796
Richard Donner's film
"The Omen"
602
00:29:14,837 --> 00:29:16,923
takes things one step further
603
00:29:16,965 --> 00:29:18,925
with a violent vision
of parents
604
00:29:18,967 --> 00:29:22,303
at the mercy
of the ultimate problem child:
605
00:29:22,345 --> 00:29:24,514
the spawn of Satan.
606
00:29:28,142 --> 00:29:29,560
When the Jews return to Zion
607
00:29:29,602 --> 00:29:32,563
"and a comet fills the sky,
608
00:29:32,605 --> 00:29:35,650
"the Holy Roman Empire rises,
609
00:29:35,692 --> 00:29:38,111
and you and I must die."
610
00:29:38,152 --> 00:29:41,447
Released in 1976,
Richard Donner's film
611
00:29:41,489 --> 00:29:45,326
"The Omen" revolves around
every parent's secret fear:
612
00:29:45,368 --> 00:29:49,455
that their sweet young child
is a demon in disguise.
613
00:29:50,415 --> 00:29:54,168
"The Omen" is the story
of an American diplomat,
614
00:29:54,210 --> 00:29:56,254
played by Gregory Peck,
615
00:29:56,296 --> 00:29:58,756
who takes a child home
from the hospital
616
00:29:58,798 --> 00:30:02,802
that is not his own
and sets up shop
617
00:30:02,844 --> 00:30:05,388
and seems to have this
beautiful life in England,
618
00:30:05,430 --> 00:30:07,348
and then the whole thing
starts to unravel,
619
00:30:07,390 --> 00:30:08,725
and we discover that the child
620
00:30:08,766 --> 00:30:11,436
is actually
the son of the devil.
621
00:30:11,477 --> 00:30:13,354
"The Omen" is like my
hands-down
622
00:30:13,396 --> 00:30:16,107
favorite horror movie.
623
00:30:16,149 --> 00:30:19,277
It's intellectually
a little bit above par
624
00:30:19,319 --> 00:30:21,195
than the average thing
you would watch
625
00:30:21,237 --> 00:30:23,156
at the video store, right?
626
00:30:23,197 --> 00:30:25,199
Right.
It was a big-budget movie.
627
00:30:25,241 --> 00:30:26,617
Richard Donner.
It was a huge deal.
628
00:30:26,659 --> 00:30:28,137
Yeah, and Gregory Peck
is great in it.
629
00:30:28,161 --> 00:30:29,495
Lee Remick's great in it.
630
00:30:29,537 --> 00:30:31,956
So I just thought it hit
on all... you know,
631
00:30:31,998 --> 00:30:35,460
the quality was really high
on all the different facets.
632
00:30:35,501 --> 00:30:37,378
Gregory Peck
in a horror movie.
633
00:30:37,420 --> 00:30:38,921
That was kind of a big deal,
634
00:30:38,963 --> 00:30:40,214
having an actor
of his stature.
635
00:30:40,256 --> 00:30:42,175
It was a '50s-era,
636
00:30:42,216 --> 00:30:45,678
established
older Hollywood legend
637
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,430
that was now appearing
in this horror film,
638
00:30:47,472 --> 00:30:50,475
and he gave it,
along with Lee Remick,
639
00:30:50,516 --> 00:30:53,102
gave it this patina of class.
640
00:30:53,144 --> 00:30:56,773
Peck was going through
a terrible time in his life.
641
00:30:56,814 --> 00:30:58,566
His son was found dead.
642
00:30:58,608 --> 00:31:00,943
He was so devastated,
643
00:31:00,985 --> 00:31:03,988
and his agent said,
"I got to get him out.
644
00:31:04,030 --> 00:31:05,990
"I got to get him up
on his feet.
645
00:31:06,032 --> 00:31:07,700
I got to get him working."
646
00:31:07,742 --> 00:31:11,037
We pitched him,
"Greg, it's a strong mystery,
647
00:31:11,079 --> 00:31:12,955
the suspense is incredible,
648
00:31:12,997 --> 00:31:15,291
and on top of it,
it's a thriller."
649
00:31:15,333 --> 00:31:18,002
Damien, the adopted boy
in "The Omen,"
650
00:31:18,044 --> 00:31:21,464
does not seem to be aware
that the devil is inside him,
651
00:31:21,506 --> 00:31:23,174
but as he grows older,
652
00:31:23,216 --> 00:31:26,386
Satan's agents
begin infiltrating his life.
653
00:31:26,427 --> 00:31:29,764
They send a sinister
Rottweiler to protect him,
654
00:31:29,806 --> 00:31:31,974
and, in an infamous scene,
655
00:31:32,016 --> 00:31:35,812
they possess his nanny
at his fifth birthday party.
656
00:31:35,853 --> 00:31:38,648
- Look at me, Damien.
- "Damien, this is for you."
657
00:31:38,689 --> 00:31:40,233
- It's all for you.
- Like...
658
00:31:40,274 --> 00:31:42,902
she kills herself
at the kid's party.
659
00:31:47,615 --> 00:31:49,700
In "The Omen,"
we don't really know
660
00:31:49,742 --> 00:31:52,328
that Damien is the antichrist.
661
00:31:52,370 --> 00:31:55,415
Neither does Gregory Peck.
It's not until somewhere
662
00:31:55,456 --> 00:31:58,000
towards the beginning
of the second half
663
00:31:58,042 --> 00:32:00,586
that you really come to terms
with the fact
664
00:32:00,628 --> 00:32:03,673
that they're harboring
the antichrist.
665
00:32:09,595 --> 00:32:11,722
So the movie has
a story to tell,
666
00:32:11,764 --> 00:32:16,352
and then it's gonna be,
"What do they do about it?"
667
00:32:16,394 --> 00:32:20,231
They cast it well. They cast
the son of the devil well.
668
00:32:20,273 --> 00:32:23,651
- Mom!
- Damien... stop!
669
00:32:23,693 --> 00:32:25,212
When you can get, like,
a good performance
670
00:32:25,236 --> 00:32:26,737
out of children
in a horror movie,
671
00:32:26,779 --> 00:32:28,322
there's, like,
nothing more effective.
672
00:32:32,869 --> 00:32:35,538
There's just something
inherently creepy about kids.
673
00:32:35,580 --> 00:32:37,248
Even my own children,
674
00:32:37,290 --> 00:32:39,208
if they wake me up
in the middle of the night,
675
00:32:39,250 --> 00:32:40,811
and they're just standing
motionless next to the bed,
676
00:32:40,835 --> 00:32:44,589
I'm briefly scared,
and I made them.
677
00:32:44,630 --> 00:32:47,758
Casting that child,
we did one scene where I said,
678
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,512
"I'm gonna grab you,
and you want to get away."
679
00:32:51,554 --> 00:32:53,514
Grabbed this kid,
went rolling,
680
00:32:53,556 --> 00:32:55,475
and he kicked me
in my privates...
681
00:32:58,019 --> 00:32:59,312
Oh!
682
00:33:02,690 --> 00:33:05,776
So hard that I just
threw my hands up
683
00:33:05,818 --> 00:33:08,529
and said, "Cut! Hire him."
684
00:33:08,571 --> 00:33:11,532
Aaahh!
685
00:33:13,701 --> 00:33:16,370
After Damien nearly kills
his mother,
686
00:33:16,412 --> 00:33:19,624
Peck's character searches
for the boy's true parents.
687
00:33:19,665 --> 00:33:21,626
His quest triggers
an avalanche
688
00:33:21,667 --> 00:33:23,961
of violence and death.
689
00:33:24,003 --> 00:33:25,713
Aaah!
690
00:33:25,755 --> 00:33:27,798
The spectacular staging
of these scenes
691
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,509
is one of the reasons
692
00:33:29,550 --> 00:33:31,677
"The Omen" is considered
a horror classic.
693
00:33:34,430 --> 00:33:38,100
I wasn't prepared for
how scary it was gonna get.
694
00:33:38,142 --> 00:33:40,228
Forget about the gore
and everything.
695
00:33:40,269 --> 00:33:42,438
That... didn't see
that coming at all.
696
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:43,916
- You know, just the...
- The dog, the music.
697
00:33:43,940 --> 00:33:46,943
The Rottweilers
surrounding them
698
00:33:46,984 --> 00:33:48,402
in the graveyard was, like,
699
00:33:48,444 --> 00:33:49,588
"Oh, my God,
what's gonna happen?"
700
00:33:55,409 --> 00:33:57,411
But then, the decapitations.
701
00:33:57,453 --> 00:34:00,540
I mean, that just...
that was very scary.
702
00:34:07,755 --> 00:34:09,048
I never saw that coming.
703
00:34:11,342 --> 00:34:13,594
At the end of the movie,
we dropped the camera,
704
00:34:13,636 --> 00:34:15,596
and it revealed
the back of the kid,
705
00:34:15,638 --> 00:34:17,723
which I was right
behind the camera.
706
00:34:17,765 --> 00:34:20,142
Kid turned and looked at me,
707
00:34:20,184 --> 00:34:22,228
and he had this severe
face on,
708
00:34:22,270 --> 00:34:26,357
and I said, "Don't you smile.
Don't you dare smile."
709
00:34:26,399 --> 00:34:29,569
And he started to fight
the smile,
710
00:34:29,610 --> 00:34:32,738
and then he couldn't fight it
anymore, and he kind of lit up.
711
00:34:32,780 --> 00:34:36,325
It was like, blow up,
the end of a movie.
712
00:34:36,367 --> 00:34:39,328
Was this real?
Am I really the devil?
713
00:34:39,370 --> 00:34:44,792
Did this really happen?
And it changed the whole movie.
714
00:34:44,834 --> 00:34:48,421
I never had children.
They scare the hell out of me.
715
00:34:48,462 --> 00:34:51,424
At their core,
possession movies are about
716
00:34:51,465 --> 00:34:53,384
the fear of losing yourself,
717
00:34:53,426 --> 00:34:56,596
of a demon taking control
of your body and your mind.
718
00:34:56,637 --> 00:34:58,222
I can't move.
719
00:34:58,264 --> 00:35:01,392
In 2017,
Jordan Peele's "Get Out"
720
00:35:01,434 --> 00:35:06,522
took that idea and used it to
hold a mirror up to America.
721
00:35:09,525 --> 00:35:11,277
Good to see another
brother around here.
722
00:35:11,319 --> 00:35:13,487
A young black man meets
another young black man.
723
00:35:13,529 --> 00:35:18,117
Ah, yes. Of course it is.
724
00:35:18,159 --> 00:35:20,995
But something
is very wrong here.
725
00:35:21,037 --> 00:35:25,166
Jordan Peele's "Get Out"
is by turns a social satire
726
00:35:25,207 --> 00:35:29,128
and a genuinely horrific tale
of demonic possession,
727
00:35:29,170 --> 00:35:32,173
but the demons here
aren't from hell.
728
00:35:32,214 --> 00:35:34,759
Get out.
729
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,469
Sorry, man.
730
00:35:36,510 --> 00:35:37,637
Get out!
731
00:35:38,512 --> 00:35:41,223
I love, love,
love possession films.
732
00:35:41,265 --> 00:35:43,768
- Hello.
- Hi.
733
00:35:43,809 --> 00:35:47,104
My mother used to do
this thing to me,
734
00:35:47,146 --> 00:35:50,650
play this little joke on me.
Every now and then, I would go,
735
00:35:50,691 --> 00:35:52,193
"Mom, Mom,
can I get this candy?"
736
00:35:52,234 --> 00:35:54,070
or whatever,
and she would look at me,
737
00:35:54,111 --> 00:35:58,991
and she'd go, "Mommy's not here
anymore, Jordan,"
738
00:35:59,033 --> 00:36:01,952
and I'd be like, "Don't do it,"
like, "Come on. Mom."
739
00:36:01,994 --> 00:36:05,915
And she'd be like,
"I'm serious. Mom isn't here."
740
00:36:05,956 --> 00:36:09,919
- Who was she?
- Right. That's the question.
741
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,796
That's the question
I've never answered.
742
00:36:11,837 --> 00:36:15,716
All I know is sometimes if
there's too many white people,
743
00:36:15,758 --> 00:36:17,343
I get nervous, you know?
744
00:36:17,385 --> 00:36:19,011
"Get Out"
is a possession film.
745
00:36:19,053 --> 00:36:20,429
It is a possession film.
746
00:36:22,598 --> 00:36:24,350
Instead of the devil
possessing you,
747
00:36:24,392 --> 00:36:26,852
it's literally the white devil
possessing your body.
748
00:36:26,894 --> 00:36:27,894
I'm into it.
749
00:36:27,895 --> 00:36:32,983
Oh, no. No. No.
750
00:36:33,025 --> 00:36:35,528
And there haven't been
a lot of movies
751
00:36:35,569 --> 00:36:39,323
that deal with race
straight on in the genre space.
752
00:36:39,365 --> 00:36:40,825
Do they know I'm black?
753
00:36:43,452 --> 00:36:44,912
No.
754
00:36:44,954 --> 00:36:46,706
And I wanted this movie
to be,
755
00:36:46,747 --> 00:36:48,874
"You can't do this movie
with a white guy."
756
00:36:48,916 --> 00:36:50,835
My dad would have voted
for Obama a third time
757
00:36:50,876 --> 00:36:55,506
if he could have.
Like, the love is so real.
758
00:36:55,548 --> 00:36:58,801
In a nutshell, it's a story
of a black guy
759
00:36:58,843 --> 00:37:01,387
who meets
his white girlfriend's parents
760
00:37:01,429 --> 00:37:06,892
and kind of gets more than what
he's expecting, in a nutshell.
761
00:37:06,934 --> 00:37:10,062
I would have voted for Obama
for a third term if I could.
762
00:37:10,104 --> 00:37:13,649
Best president in my lifetime,
hands down.
763
00:37:13,691 --> 00:37:15,443
- I agree.
- Yeah.
764
00:37:15,484 --> 00:37:19,029
There is a genuine mystery
going on
765
00:37:19,071 --> 00:37:22,742
in the case of "Get Out."
The audience knows,
766
00:37:22,783 --> 00:37:25,286
okay, there's something
weird about this family.
767
00:37:25,327 --> 00:37:27,121
There is definitely
something weird
768
00:37:27,163 --> 00:37:29,874
about those black servants.
769
00:37:29,915 --> 00:37:32,793
There's something weird
about this whole damn place.
770
00:37:32,835 --> 00:37:36,881
But exactly what,
you don't know.
771
00:37:41,218 --> 00:37:42,803
But now you're really
watching,
772
00:37:42,845 --> 00:37:44,513
because now you're
watching a mystery.
773
00:37:44,555 --> 00:37:47,057
Jordan Peele knows
exactly what he's doing,
774
00:37:47,099 --> 00:37:49,894
and we're gonna just
have to wait for it.
775
00:37:49,935 --> 00:37:52,605
Do you find that
being African-American
776
00:37:52,646 --> 00:37:57,276
has more advantage
or disadvantage?
777
00:37:57,318 --> 00:37:59,487
Being black in America,
778
00:37:59,528 --> 00:38:02,615
there's certain dials
you're sort of tuned into
779
00:38:02,656 --> 00:38:05,409
to not walk into
a - up situation.
780
00:38:05,451 --> 00:38:07,745
I got hypnotized last night..
781
00:38:07,787 --> 00:38:09,413
Get the out of here.
782
00:38:09,455 --> 00:38:11,457
No, yo, yo, yeah, yeah,
to quit smoking,
783
00:38:11,499 --> 00:38:14,001
but Rose's mom's
a psychiatrist, so...
784
00:38:14,043 --> 00:38:15,061
Bro, I don't care
if the bitch
785
00:38:15,085 --> 00:38:17,046
is Iyanla Vanzant, okay?
786
00:38:17,087 --> 00:38:19,632
She can't fix my life.
You ain't getting in my head.
787
00:38:19,673 --> 00:38:22,134
Chris always thinks he's got
the situation in hand...
788
00:38:22,176 --> 00:38:23,886
- Yes.
- Because they're, like,
789
00:38:23,928 --> 00:38:25,530
a bunch of white people.
What are they gonna do?
790
00:38:25,554 --> 00:38:27,223
We're kind of like,
we can forgive him.
791
00:38:27,264 --> 00:38:28,891
Oh, he's not being dumb.
792
00:38:28,933 --> 00:38:32,311
Is he really going to jump
to the conclusion
793
00:38:32,353 --> 00:38:36,524
that this family is literally
evil, physically threats?
794
00:38:36,565 --> 00:38:37,900
Like, that's crazy.
795
00:38:37,942 --> 00:38:42,488
Now... sink into the floor.
796
00:38:42,530 --> 00:38:44,198
- Wait, wait, wait...
- Sink.
797
00:38:49,161 --> 00:38:52,039
The minute Chris is sent
into the sunken place,
798
00:38:52,081 --> 00:38:56,377
I realized that this movie
was not just going to be scary
799
00:38:56,418 --> 00:38:58,462
and not just going
to be interesting
800
00:38:58,504 --> 00:39:00,548
but also going to be
important.
801
00:39:03,884 --> 00:39:06,220
Because he created a metaphor
802
00:39:06,262 --> 00:39:10,516
that now gives so many of us
language to explain
803
00:39:10,558 --> 00:39:16,355
what a state of suppression
looks like and feels like.
804
00:39:16,397 --> 00:39:18,858
Now you're in
the sunken place.
805
00:39:18,899 --> 00:39:20,484
When you're
in the sunken place,
806
00:39:20,526 --> 00:39:21,944
you can still see
what's happening.
807
00:39:21,986 --> 00:39:23,988
You're not unaware.
808
00:39:24,029 --> 00:39:29,869
It's just that you feel there's
nothing you can do about it.
809
00:39:29,910 --> 00:39:32,496
Someone or something
has taken control over you,
810
00:39:32,538 --> 00:39:35,291
so therefore you're powerless,
and it doesn't matter
811
00:39:35,332 --> 00:39:38,294
what color,
where you come from,
812
00:39:38,335 --> 00:39:41,964
you can be in the sunken place
just by not having a voice.
813
00:39:42,006 --> 00:39:45,217
In a pivotal scene
in "Get Out,"
814
00:39:45,259 --> 00:39:47,344
we discover
all the black people
815
00:39:47,386 --> 00:39:50,723
Chris has met on the estate
have been sold at auction.
816
00:39:50,764 --> 00:39:53,225
Their bodies have been
taken over by white people
817
00:39:53,267 --> 00:39:56,145
who desire their youth
and physicality.
818
00:39:56,186 --> 00:40:01,358
They are trapped in the sunken
place, yearning for freedom.
819
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:02,943
It's really a Trojan horse
820
00:40:02,985 --> 00:40:07,698
for telling
a much more important story.
821
00:40:07,740 --> 00:40:11,869
Where the country is
certainly helped propel
822
00:40:11,911 --> 00:40:14,622
the success of "Get Out,"
and also made "Get Out"
823
00:40:14,663 --> 00:40:18,334
a particularly important movie
for its time
824
00:40:18,375 --> 00:40:21,921
in a way that, you know,
it wouldn't have been,
825
00:40:21,962 --> 00:40:24,465
and, you know, I wish that
that weren't true, but it is.
826
00:40:24,506 --> 00:40:26,133
I mean, at the end
of the day,
827
00:40:26,175 --> 00:40:29,803
the movie is about
how racism is horrifying.
828
00:40:29,845 --> 00:40:33,724
It's the most horrific thing
in our world today,
829
00:40:33,766 --> 00:40:36,685
is just people just hating
830
00:40:36,727 --> 00:40:39,146
other people
for whatever reasons they do.
831
00:40:39,188 --> 00:40:42,816
What is your purpose,
Chris?
832
00:40:42,858 --> 00:40:44,109
What?
833
00:40:46,528 --> 00:40:48,530
- In life.
- Is there a better statement
834
00:40:48,572 --> 00:40:52,284
on race relations in America?
I don't think so, you know?
835
00:40:52,326 --> 00:40:55,454
And that's totally pushed
the bar on satire and horror
836
00:40:55,496 --> 00:40:57,206
and cut very deep,
837
00:40:57,247 --> 00:41:00,125
at the same way
is being entertaining.
838
00:41:00,167 --> 00:41:02,544
And that's what genre movies
do at their best,
839
00:41:02,586 --> 00:41:04,213
especially great horror movies.
840
00:41:04,254 --> 00:41:08,592
It gives you a way
to discuss the undiscussable.
841
00:41:08,634 --> 00:41:10,469
- Yes.
- It gives you a context
842
00:41:10,511 --> 00:41:12,221
to talk about subjects
843
00:41:12,262 --> 00:41:14,223
that are just awful
and painful for everyone...
844
00:41:14,264 --> 00:41:15,891
- Yeah.
- But you can put it
845
00:41:15,933 --> 00:41:18,018
in the context
of a scary movie,
846
00:41:18,060 --> 00:41:21,021
whether it's a zombie movie,
whether it's a "Get Out" movie,
847
00:41:21,063 --> 00:41:23,732
and it's like you're suddenly
allowed to talk about it.
848
00:41:23,774 --> 00:41:25,901
And everybody needs it.
849
00:41:30,656 --> 00:41:32,825
Even if it's not in the package
of a horror movie,
850
00:41:32,866 --> 00:41:35,494
everybody has this dark side
that needs to be filled.
851
00:41:40,791 --> 00:41:43,502
I mean, I told you not to
go in that house.
65742
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