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I mean. unless they‘re stopping 15 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,749 to eat one olyou. - We‘re all gonna die. 16 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,995 We all are gonna get cancer one day. 17 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:39,917 We‘re all gonna get sick. 18 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,839 It's almost like an accelerated version of that. 19 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,189 - We don't want zombies 20 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,117 to come and destroy all oi our friends 21 00:00:48,160 --> 00:00:50,230 and family and institutions... 22 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,151 but on some level. maybe we do. 23 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,078 Like. on some level it provides us a chance 24 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,156 tojust dismantle everything... 25 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,111 And possibly start over. 26 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,032 - What are humans like when laced with the end 27 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,036 of humanity? 28 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:09,513 What are they like when they're laced 29 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,312 with very few choices 30 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,511 in--in regards to how to survive? 31 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,835 That's the horror of zombie movies. 32 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,711 - Nol - It's the wrong impulses 33 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,593 that come out of people that are far more terrifying 34 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:22,868 than the walking dead. 35 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,910 J‘J‘ 36 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:58,439 - I'm Eli Roth. 37 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:04,068 - The history of horror is filled with monsters. 38 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:05,951 Nightmare figures that tap 39 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,309 into our deepest fears. 40 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,476 J‘J‘ 41 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,988 But our fears. and our monsters. 42 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,076 change with the times. 43 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,994 Right now, it's the time of the zombie. 44 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,760 Fast zombies, slow zombies, 45 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,553 comedy zombies, teen zombies... 46 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,273 - Whatever their shape, 47 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,198 zombies are everywhere. 48 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:35,673 How did we get here? 49 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,915 What set off zombie fever? 50 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:39,393 As we'll see, 51 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,476 zombies have been around for decades. 52 00:02:47,920 --> 00:02:49,717 But the debut of "The Walking Dead" 53 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,149 in 2010 saw them explode 54 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,078 into popular culture. 55 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,078 - To almost everyone's surprise, a horror series 56 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,839 became the most popular show on television. 57 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,190 - My brother's kids-- 58 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,196 ten years old, five years-- they watch "Walking Dead." 59 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,356 - Kids eight years old watch "Walking Dead." 60 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:12,958 What is it about "Walking Dead" 61 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,594 that zombies have become so, almost normalized 62 00:03:15,640 --> 00:03:17,392 that kids love it. 63 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,192 - They don't take it seriously. I think it's amazing. 64 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:20,514 - Well... - "Walking Dead" plays 65 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:21,709 like a family show. - It's all about 66 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,478 the characters. 67 00:03:27,920 --> 00:03:30,115 You can follow this group of people 68 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,549 as they struggle to survive 69 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,194 week after week after week after week. 70 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:40,996 - You can see them live, you can see them die, 71 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,270 you can see everything thatthey go through 72 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,880 with the zombie apocalypse set as the backdrop. 73 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,869 - Everybody wants to... 74 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,956 think that they would be able to survive 75 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,228 the zombie apocalypse. 76 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,274 - You figure, "What would I do to survive?‘I 77 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,880 Because that is the crux of the show, 78 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,115 ordinary people who all of a sudden 79 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,833 are thrust into an extraordinary situation. 80 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,075 which always give you some of the best drama. 81 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:14,999 -Are you gonna fight for what you believe in? 82 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:16,075 Are you gonna be the type of person 83 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:17,633 that runs away from it? 84 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,319 You know, there's no status and--and fame, 85 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:21,998 and money, and 86 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,759 there's none of that bull. 87 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,394 - The apocalyptic simulation is really an interesting 88 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,431 sociological experiment about, you know, 89 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,118 who do people become, and who would I become, 90 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,549 and what would be okay ifthe rules weren't 91 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,795 the same anymore? 92 00:04:35,840 --> 00:04:37,239 lwant to be a Michonne... 93 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,199 But I'm probably more of, um... 94 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,834 I don't know, a Eugene. 95 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,838 You got a name, ass? 96 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,916 - Eugene. 97 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,157 - They're coming to get you, Earbara. 98 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,589 - Stop itl You're acting like a child. 99 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,790 - They're coming for you. 100 00:04:56,840 --> 00:04:59,149 Look, there comes one of them now. 101 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,112 - Without George Romero and "Night of the Living Dead," 102 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,628 there would be no "Walking Dead." 103 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,240 "Night of the Living Dead" laid the template 104 00:05:07,280 --> 00:05:10,033 for every zombie survival story that followed. 105 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:11,678 It's a simple plot-- 106 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,995 six people trapped in a farmhouse 107 00:05:16,840 --> 00:05:19,593 but it changed everything. 108 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,676 - You got to see the boundary pushed 109 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,473 going from the 19505 creatures-- 110 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,159 the man in the rubber suit-- to like, graphic viscera. 111 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:28,679 What was it like seeing it 112 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,278 pushed farther and farther? 113 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,550 I can remember just 114 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,272 sort of wandering into a screening 115 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:35,958 of "Night of the Living Dead." 116 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,036 The whole place was full of kids--it was like 117 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,958 a Saturday matinee-- and they're all, you know, 118 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,956 yelling and grab-assing around and throwing 119 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,677 and they just fell entirely silent. 120 00:05:50,280 --> 00:05:52,953 And I was scared, too. 121 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,878 The first time that you see something like that, 122 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,198 - George Romero really creates the rules. 123 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:06,673 you turned into one... -Yeah. 124 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,478 - Shoot them in the head... 125 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:09,919 J‘J‘ 126 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:11,552 That didn't exist before. - Those rules 127 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,950 for the modern-day zombie were created 50 years ago. 128 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,718 - By George Romero. - If I were surrounded 129 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,512 by six or eight of these things, would I stand 130 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:21,993 If you had a gun, shoot 'em in the head. 131 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,598 That's a sure way to kill 'em. 132 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,471 If you don't, get yourself a club or a torch. 133 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,590 Beat 'em or burn ‘em. They go up pretty easy. 134 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,880 - It almost feels like the zombie movie-- 135 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,990 there's like a quantum leap that happens 136 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:35,877 where there are different phases. 137 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,559 Like the 1930s and '405, it was the-- 138 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,670 "l Walked With a Zombie." It was "White Zombie." 139 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,278 It was the hypnotist zombie. 140 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,151 It was a mad scientist on an island 141 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,475 that has found a way to raise the dead 142 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,550 and enslave them. - A lot of zombie films 143 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,160 were about people who had been just stripped 144 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,158 of their identity and were slaves, almost. 145 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,236 You know, they could be workers, orthey couldjust 146 00:06:56,280 --> 00:06:58,430 sort of shamble and look scary, but they weren‘t attacking 147 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,476 and biting and killing like they did 148 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,192 in "Night of the Living Dead." 149 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:03,593 - Baby... leases} 150 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,835 Mean, there were things 151 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,872 that were so transgressive in that movie. 152 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:14,793 - The little girl stabs her mother to death. 153 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,831 - The little kid killing her mom, that had-- 154 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,472 no one had ever seen anything like that. 155 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,476 - The first time you see it, you're just horrified. 156 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,033 You can‘t believe what you're seeing. 157 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,191 - "Night of the Living Dead" was much more 158 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,231 of a claustrophobic nightmare kind of experience, 159 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,669 "Night of the Living Dead" is also, 160 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,711 somewhat facetious, and it's also-- 161 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,036 it has its sociopolitical allegory. 162 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:39,798 - What's important about "Night of the Living Dead" 163 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,319 is the fact that the travails of the people 164 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,271 locked in that house are really a microcosm 165 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,151 of what's going on in American society 166 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,998 The tumult of the late 1960s 167 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,350 is reflected in the fear and the--the violence 168 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,755 that--that occur in and around that house. 169 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,031 - That movie's revolutionary in many, many ways 170 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,634 and had profound impact-- 171 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,716 the fact it had a black lead-- 172 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,390 - Which George always said was not deliberate. 173 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,670 It was that Duane was the best actor. 174 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,472 I don't believe him. lthink it was deliberate. 175 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:12,839 - With all of us working, 176 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,108 we can fix this place up in no time. 177 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:15,912 We have everything we need up here. 178 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,474 - We can take all that stuff downstairs with us. 179 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,112 Man, you're really crazy, you know that? 180 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:21,957 - Let's say you're a-- a white viewer 181 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,639 in the late 1960s... 182 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,636 who has a few prejudices, say, 183 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,796 and is a little bit worried that the world is ending 184 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:30,831 because of all ofthe, racial legislation 185 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,552 of the '60s-- The Voting Rights Act, 186 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,875 The Civil Rights Act-- and here's this zombie film 187 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,876 where the dead are coming back to life 188 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,592 and a black man is in charge. 189 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,517 - I don't want anyone's life on my hands. 190 00:08:40,560 --> 00:08:42,516 - Is there anything I can do? - I don't wanna hear any more 191 00:08:42,560 --> 00:08:44,039 from you, mister. 192 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,832 It you stay up here, you take orders from me. 193 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,797 - I will contend that that might have been 194 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,633 as frightening to some viewers as the child eating her mother 195 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,230 - What we get is potentially something hopeful, you know, 196 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:00,998 with the African-American protagonist-- 197 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,952 like maybe some new direction socially-- 198 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,436 but instead itjust turns into vigilante justice 199 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:12,793 represented by a white lynch mob. 200 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,751 You can imagine the--the shock 201 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,519 that audiences must have felt to--to be coaxed 202 00:09:17,560 --> 00:09:19,994 into identifying with a black man 203 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:21,917 only to have him shot and then pitchforked 204 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,030 onto a pile of burning bodies at the end. 205 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,116 That's a slap. 206 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,754 That's a direct slap to any audience, 207 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,633 right wing or left wing. 208 00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:33,159 - "The Nig ht of the Living Dead" 209 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:34,997 does not end on any kind of triumph. 210 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,076 Your hero is shot by police. 211 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,237 It's the most upsetting ending in cinema. 212 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,714 And then that has continued 213 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,716 through horror cinema of actually-- 214 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,035 It doesn't always have a happy ending. 215 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:51,790 J‘J‘ 216 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,308 lthink that's the joy of horror cinema, 217 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:55,799 is that it can, like, affect you in lots 218 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,229 of different ways. - If George Romero 219 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,271 had only made "Night of the Living Dead," 220 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,151 he would still be a legend... 221 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,839 - But he didn't stop. 222 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,836 "Night of the Living Dead" and its sequels 223 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,235 changed the course of film history. 224 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:10,952 and inspired the best 225 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,718 the horror genre has to offer. 226 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,910 He was such a big influence 227 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,518 on "Shaun of the Dead." 228 00:10:16,560 --> 00:10:19,393 We liked this idea of our film taking place 229 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,192 within George Romero's universe. 230 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,238 "Shaun of the Dead" 231 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,475 was so well done that it opened the floodgates 232 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,238 to, like, everybody to try and make a zombie movie. 233 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,076 - Today, zombie movies 234 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:37,917 and TV shows are everywhere. 235 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,552 but not so long ago, 236 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,558 they had virtually disappeared. 237 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,431 Edgar Wright's "Shaun ofthe Dead" 238 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,835 helped bring them back bigger than ever. 239 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,031 - When we thought up the idea for "Shaun ofthe Dead," 240 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,753 one of the inspirations for it is because there hadn't been 241 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,836 a zombie film for, like, 15 years. 242 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,713 J‘J‘ 243 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,751 We always had this theory that, like, 244 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,519 John Landis' video for "Thriller" 245 00:11:08,560 --> 00:11:11,074 sort of killed off zombies for the second half 246 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:12,758 of the '80s and early 'SDs. 247 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:16,956 - So I think what happened was, 248 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,877 all ofa sudden the zombie genre-- 249 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,718 which traditionally had probably sort of died out... 250 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,193 -Yeah. -A little bit-- 251 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:24,878 and then all of a sudden you have all these 252 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,194 zombie video games and they're like, ", 253 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,437 man, people love shooting zombies." 254 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,994 - It was around, like, the late 1990s 255 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,679 when "Resident Evil" came out-- the game. 256 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,156 So people started 257 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,270 to take an interest in the genre again. 258 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,398 - Every now and then, we see a movie 259 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,670 that is supposedly horror... 260 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,917 but yet uses social commentary brilliantly, 261 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,555 and the best example is "Shaun of the Dead." 262 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,352 You want to know where Britain was 263 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,277 at that time, you look at "Shaun of the Dead." 264 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,036 - In the '905 and the dawn of the new century, 265 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,509 we were in a new phase in Britain... 266 00:12:08,560 --> 00:12:11,199 and a whole new generation of Britons were asking: 267 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:12,434 "What's next?" 268 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,630 And they were a little lost. 269 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,316 Hey, man, listen, um-- top left. 270 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,112 l was gonna say-- 271 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:21,559 reload. - I'm on it. 272 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,875 -And it was brilliant. 273 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,191 - What I love about "Shaun of the Dead" 274 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,789 is they're not making fun of... 275 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,239 zombie movies, 276 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,111 they're making a funny zombie movie. 277 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,549 - I'm not gonna say, "If you love her, let her go," 278 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,795 and I'm not gonna bombard you with cliches. 279 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,876 But what I will say is this... 280 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:44,314 It's not the end of the world. 281 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,230 -And they play on all the tropes... 282 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,350 - Sorry, we're closed. 283 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,950 - I'd been playing "Resident Evil 3," 284 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,991 like, all night. 285 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,235 My girlfriend at the time had gone away... 286 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,236 -And I promised her lwouldn't play video games 287 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,919 all weekend, and I did exactly that. 288 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,155 I remember, vividly, 289 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,191 playing it until the sun came up. 290 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:19,753 - And then walking across the street 291 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,631 to the news agent to get some milk 292 00:13:21,680 --> 00:13:23,557 to make some tea... 293 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,239 and I walked across the street, and it was completely empty 294 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:27,918 on a Sunday morning. 295 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,757 And the shop was the only thing that was open, 296 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,711 and in that moment, I had a thought of thinking, 297 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,910 "What would it be like if if zombies were here right now, 298 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,598 and what would I do?‘I 299 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,471 Because we don't really have guns in the UK, 300 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,034 How would I defend myself? 301 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:41,718 - It's just that little thought 302 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,228 really sort of started to inspire the sequence 303 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,748 where Shaun walks 304 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,109 to the store and back hungover. 305 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,037 - So the zombie apocalypse has started, 306 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,150 but he's still unaware of it. 307 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,950 - But he does this walk-- it's a long, 308 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,718 steady cam shot-- and he goes into the shop 309 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,557 and he doesn't notice... 310 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,238 little things. 311 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,114 - The bloody handprints on the wall, 312 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,031 and he's walking away from the refrigerator 313 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,833 and he just slips in blood. 314 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,352 It's so subtle, but it‘s... 315 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,436 It's such a great moment 316 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,596 because you know-- you as the audience 317 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,596 know what's coming-- his character doesn't 318 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,349 know it yet, and it's-- he--he's still out of it. 319 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,516 - Nelson. - It's such a simple moment 320 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,711 but it‘s one of my favorite moments in the movie. 321 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,876 - It's wonderful, the way they show 322 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:36,751 the collapse of society. 323 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,839 Zombies become a symbol of anarchy, 324 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,792 and the collapse ofthe system, 325 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,193 and all that protects us. 326 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,118 Top leftl 327 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:51,589 -Ahl - Reload. 328 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,312 - I'm on it. 329 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,954 - We wanted to stay true to the spirit 330 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:57,632 of "Night of the Living Dead" and " Dawn of the Dead." 331 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,920 The film is like a valentine to George Romero 332 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,029 because we love those movies. 333 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:04,957 We're, like, sharing our deep, 334 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,912 deep love forthe subject. 335 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,793 - Right down to its title, "Shaun of the Dead" 336 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,354 is a tribute to what any horror fan will tell you 337 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,597 is the greatest zombie film of all time. 338 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:18,949 - There's no greater zombie movie 339 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:20,672 than "Dawn of the Dead." 340 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,234 - I think "Dawn of the Dead" is a real masterpiece. 341 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,236 - It's that rare kind of, like, nightmare world 342 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,953 which you actually wouldn't-- I mean, maybe this isjust me, 343 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,433 but you wouldn't mind being in it. 344 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,637 - Nol Nol - George Romero's 345 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,353 "Night of the Living Dead" created the modern zombie. 346 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,595 That was a hard act to follow, 347 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,995 but the director topped it with his sequel, 348 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,553 "Dawn of the Dead." 349 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,351 "Dawn ofthe Dead" was a potent mixture 350 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:53,833 of horror, satire, 351 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,836 and outrageous special effects. 352 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,551 It's, basically a continuation of the-- 353 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:02,953 of "Night of the Living Dead," where zombies are 354 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:04,831 taking over the world. 355 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:07,872 - This was the first depiction 356 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,957 of a full-scale zombie apocalypse, 357 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,434 a nightmare vision of social collapse 358 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,471 that became the template for virtually 359 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,559 every end-of-the-world story we see today. 360 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,239 Once again, Romero used horror 361 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,510 to comment on American values. 362 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:28,155 - He is masterfully executing 363 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,998 all of those horror elements 364 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:32,951 in a way that brings it 365 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,834 right to a social justice scenario... 366 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,110 - Martinezl 367 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:40,639 You've been watchingl 368 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,274 You know we've got this building surrounded! 369 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:48,075 - Particularly that opening when in the ghettos, 370 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,714 all of the poor are keeping their loved ones 371 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,558 hidden away from the rest of the world, 372 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,636 because they know that they will kill them. 373 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,797 - People in this project are your responsibility. 374 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,513 - In the first 20 minutes, there's a SWAT team 375 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,039 raiding a house... -Yeah. 376 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:04,593 -And one of the police officers 377 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,311 - Yeah, come on, Martinez. Show your greasy little 378 00:17:08,360 --> 00:17:10,351 Puerto Rican ass so I can blow it right off. 379 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:11,879 -And l was like, 380 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,150 "Why is this guy concerned with racism?" 381 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,838 Like, there's zombies in the building. 382 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,393 It was unbelievable. 383 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,078 l was like, "Aren't there bigger problems?" 384 00:17:19,120 --> 00:17:20,519 - Let's go. let's go] 385 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,758 - That blew my mind as a kid 386 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,314 because I realized I was watching 387 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,789 a political story 388 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:33,990 about the race 389 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:35,678 and class system in America. 390 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,350 - After showing society crumbling, 391 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,631 the film shifts focus to a small group of survivors 392 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,831 who take refuge in a suburban shopping mall. 393 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,711 - I think the great thing about zombies 394 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,228 is they are like a catch-all metaphor 395 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,352 of the world‘s ills, and I think George Romero 396 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,436 doesn't really get enough credit as a satirist 397 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,198 as well as a horror film maker. 398 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:58,832 Come onl 399 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:00,518 - "Dawn of the Dead" being the most 400 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,028 kind of savage statement aboutthe state of consumerism 401 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,752 in the late '70s. 402 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,589 The idea of the mindless hordes 403 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,392 flock to the big fancy shopping mall... 404 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,352 That was very pointed and very funny. 405 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,868 - What are they doing? Why do they come here? 406 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:18,751 - Some kind of instinct. 407 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,553 Memory ofwhat they used to do. 408 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,955 This was an important place in their lives. 409 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,116 - You can't watch that movie and not become aware 410 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,754 of the fact thatthis is a story about 411 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,030 what humans really are: 412 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,389 grasping, vampiric creatures 413 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,556 that kind of return endlessly to their old habits 414 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,068 because it‘s what they're taught. 415 00:18:38,120 --> 00:18:39,712 - I think "Dawn of the Dead" 416 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,115 should be sold in a box set with "Easy Rider." 417 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:43,912 It should be called "The Baby Boomers: 418 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,428 The Beginning and the End.‘I 419 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,671 Romero has managed to distill... 420 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,954 The worst of every generation into all of his movies. 421 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,560 You see the baby boomers 422 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,272 losing their souls. 423 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,470 - What have we done to ourselves? 424 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,158 - Because what Romero did 425 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,839 was channel his outrage 426 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,474 at his generation's ultimate surrender 427 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,238 of all their ideals 428 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,032 and he put it in a movie. - So, I mean, 429 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,469 if you were gonna go out and do atalky little, drama 430 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,159 to try to criticize the consumer society 431 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:17,838 that we have here, you couldn't make 432 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,836 $30 million, you know? - That's for sure. 433 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,871 - So, terrific. You get a couple of jabs in 434 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,911 while you‘re having fun with the rollercoaster ride 435 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,269 which really is the surface. 436 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,035 - Romero was a man with a message, 437 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,389 but his gleeful embrace of gore 438 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,431 made him a horror favorite. 439 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,948 "Dawn of the Dead," I had never seen that level 440 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,194 of a body count in a movie. 441 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,840 - You're, like, watching like, "Who made this?" 442 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,598 - Yeah. - Like, a maniac? 443 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,672 - But normally, one movie, there'd be one kill 444 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,358 that was amazing, and it was like 445 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,595 every 30 seconds, each kill was different. 446 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,558 That helicopter blade... - Yeah. 447 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,232 - Pulling it off the head... - The guy with 448 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:07,872 the giantforehead. - Which--which if you were-- 449 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,558 - Exactly. - By the way, when you're a kid 450 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,033 you never see that coming. 451 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,275 You see he staggers out and his head... 452 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:16,798 - You never put two and two together. 453 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,319 Now you look at it and go, "Of course, he‘s gonna 454 00:20:18,360 --> 00:20:20,430 get his head cut off.‘I 455 00:20:21,360 --> 00:20:23,874 - Really accomplished horror directors knew 456 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,480 having Tom Savini doing the make-up special effects 457 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,511 that it was gonna elevate that film. 458 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,711 and give them a wider audience than they ever anticipated. 459 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,398 - Well, it was Halloween every day. 460 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:34,953 We did that for three months in a shopping mall. 461 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,876 - 80% of the effects in that were stuff that 462 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,478 we came up with. 463 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,078 We'd go to George and say, "Hey, how about if we drive 464 00:20:42,120 --> 00:20:43,917 a screwdriver through-- through the zombies, here." 465 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,076 And he'd go, "Okay." 466 00:20:46,120 --> 00:20:48,076 So then two hours later we're making 467 00:20:48,120 --> 00:20:50,190 retractable screwdrivers and, you know, 468 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,155 - But the scene that makes you like, wonder, 469 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:57,918 "Wow... 470 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,393 can I even handle this?" 471 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,874 ls when the zombie in the project-- 472 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,115 when, his wife... 473 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,390 - He‘s still alive, comes to her and-- 474 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:07,395 and embraces him. 475 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:08,998 "My baby. my baby." 476 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,837 And then she--he just bites-- 477 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,075 just a chunk out of her shoulder. 478 00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:15,475 Carlito... 479 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:18,918 - It just looks real. 480 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,439 It just--it just-- 481 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:21,708 you buy it. 482 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,995 ll humans had 483 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,077 shark-like mouths, that's probably the effect 484 00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:28,678 of what would happen 485 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,676 if a sharky human bit you. 486 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:34,599 - It's just an effect we had never seen before, 487 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,073 and it draws a line in the sand. 488 00:21:36,120 --> 00:21:37,678 "Am I ready for the rest of this?" 489 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,039 - George Romero's vision was so influential 490 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,719 that for decades, most screen zombies 491 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,718 were slow-moving ghouls. 492 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,716 But in 2002, 493 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,069 Danny Boyle's "26 Days Later" 494 00:21:52,120 --> 00:21:53,599 gave us a zombie 495 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,915 for the fast-moving 21st century 496 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,877 and set off a controversy 497 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,951 that rages to this day. 498 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,309 - I'm a slow zombie guy. - I like fast zombies. 499 00:22:02,360 --> 00:22:05,113 - I'm a card-carrying slow zombie fan. 500 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,108 - Imagine waking up in a world ravaged by a disease 501 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,196 that turns ordinary people 502 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,435 into mindless predators driven to kill. 503 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,198 J‘J‘ 504 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,959 This is the premise of "26 Days Later," 505 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,958 director Danny Boyle's groundbreaking reinvention 506 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,035 of the zombie film. 507 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,519 - Fightl Fightl 508 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,118 - "28 Days Later'I 509 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,072 is a perfect horror movie 510 00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:42,873 because it's based on a premise 511 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,911 you can completely believe. 512 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,678 I don't know what it's like 513 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,591 to be bitten by a vampire. 514 00:22:50,120 --> 00:22:51,872 by a werewolf. 515 00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:55,669 - But I can imagine what it's like... 516 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,757 to have a plague spread like wildfire 517 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,394 because it‘sjust too close 518 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,874 to the headlines of today's news. 519 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,398 It could happen. 520 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,552 - "28 Days Later'I came out 521 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,114 a year after um, and it includes 522 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,151 these really haunting scenes 523 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,395 of a deserted London... 524 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,716 J‘J‘ 525 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,911 Missing persons flyers pasted to bulletin boards 526 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,190 like we saw post 9/11... 527 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,073 It also was able to, 528 00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:33,998 capitalize on a lot of the-- the anxieties 529 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,917 and fears ofthe time. 530 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,396 SARS and anthrax 531 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,750 and Mad Cow's Disease, bird flues... 532 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,791 Father... 533 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,195 Also, Danny Boyle 534 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:48,798 was commenting on, 535 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,115 the rage that he saw in society. 536 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,310 Road rage, people fighting on line 537 00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:54,679 in the supermarkets... 538 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,552 - He envisioned a zombie story that took advantage 539 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,319 of this psychological virus 540 00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:04,590 that could be unleashed and have, like, 541 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,756 a zombie effect on people. 542 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,952 - There was one big difference 543 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,309 between George Romero's' zombies and the infected 544 00:24:13,360 --> 00:24:15,555 in "25 Days Later": 545 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,278 these zombies were last. 546 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,630 People talked about sort of the next quantum leap 547 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,796 in zombie movies... 548 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,673 As "28 Days Later" 'cause it had running zombies. 549 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,472 Even though there were running infected 550 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,590 in Umberto Lenzi‘s "Nightmare City" from 1960. 551 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,830 - I'm a slow zombie guy. 552 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,632 Not that I don't like 553 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,671 a good fast zombie movie. - Somebody! 554 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,517 I loved "28 Days Later.‘I 555 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,039 Yes, I know. 556 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,469 They're not technically dead. 557 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,192 They are rage virus. 558 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,071 I get that. 559 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,309 - lfl can make a criticism of running zombies, it's this: 560 00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:56,998 It's that running zombies generally-- 561 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,678 there's kind of like a fitness level. 562 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,711 If you look at the zombies in "26 Days Later," 563 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,228 they're nearly always, like, sort of fit. 564 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,113 You know, like they're in like a sneakers commercial. 565 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,594 When you increase the speed, the people that lose out 566 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,074 are the old zombies, and the overweightzombies, 567 00:25:14,120 --> 00:25:16,395 and the little kid zombies, and I would rather have 568 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,476 a more inclusive range of zombies. 569 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,792 - Zombies that are slow are infinitely more terrifying. 570 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,193 It's the difference between getting shot 571 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,800 and getting cancer. 572 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,912 You get killed by, say, a fast zombie 573 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,316 in the "World WarZ" movie or "28 Days Later," 574 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,957 Happens too fast. 575 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,831 J‘J‘ 576 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,677 But the slow zombie... 577 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,950 the zombie that gives you time to think... 578 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,310 allows you to visualize your own death... 579 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,311 And that is one of the darker elements 580 00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:55,316 of the human mind. 581 00:25:55,360 --> 00:25:56,873 Fast or slow... 582 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,751 - Zombies are usually created 583 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,712 by accidental radiation leaks of rogue viruses. 584 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,671 - But there is another kind of zombie: 585 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,188 The deliberately reanimated corpse, 586 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,912 like Frankenstein's monster. 587 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,030 -Alivel - Created by Mary Shelley 588 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,038 in 1818, Frankenstein's monster 589 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,833 is the most famous member ofthe walking dead. 590 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,552 - Frankenstein's monster 591 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,591 is a zombie for sure. 592 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,278 In the novel, he's just a-- 593 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,915 a zombie that can talk way too much. 594 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,632 -As a kid, I really felt connected 595 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,238 to Frankenstein's monster, not so much 596 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:31,599 to Frankenstein himself. 597 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,351 ofthose original horror classics. 598 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,470 Those characters are sort of stand-ins 599 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,159 for people that are on the fringe of society 600 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,872 or castaways--cast outs. 601 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,396 - Boris Karloff's Frankenstein 602 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,237 is still the definitive version 603 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:49,793 of this monster. 604 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,512 Its direct descendant 605 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,313 is ”H.P. Lovecraft's Re-Animator." 606 00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:56,237 With "Re-Animator," 607 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,192 director Stuart Gordon reimagined the zombie film 608 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,959 as a wildly transgressive horror comedy. 609 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,989 I remember I went to a-- like a--a bunch of kids 610 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,031 were hanging out at a house like have--having a party 611 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,752 and they watched ”Breakfast Club," 612 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,439 and l was never--l had never been so bored in a movie. 613 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,596 I wasjust, like, waiting for something to happen. 614 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,232 - Somebody gets the hot potato. - Something. 615 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:17,799 And I was like, "I have a much better movie." 616 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,068 And I put on "Re-Animator..." 617 00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:20,394 -And the whole party cleared out. 618 00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:27,315 - Well, the film is about medical students 619 00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:29,351 who find a way to bring the dead back to life. 620 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,197 Particularly, there's this one genius, 621 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,391 Herbert West-- he‘s developed a serum which, 622 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,557 when it's injected into a dead body, revives it. 623 00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:43,113 - But the dead are never very grateful. 624 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,716 - What was great about Stuart Gordon's take on it-- 625 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,671 he put a really interesting sense of humor 626 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,199 in the whole thing. 627 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,110 'Cause you can look 628 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,752 at "Re-Animator" as a comedy. - You'll never get credit 629 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,199 for my discovery. 630 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:00,679 Who's going to believe a talking head? 631 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,438 Get a job in a sideshow. 632 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,596 - "Re-Animator" was like nothing 633 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,473 I had seen before-- like nothing anyone 634 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,990 had seen before-- and the audacity of it 635 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,076 is what makes it so powerful. 636 00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:19,237 J‘J‘ 637 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:20,918 - Boy, that's a sick picture. 638 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,996 Really transgressive. 639 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,793 Got a lot of crawling hands and heads rolling around 640 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,752 like bowling balls. 641 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,791 - You should not be censoring yourself. 642 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:33,789 You know, they'll be doing everything they can 643 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:34,955 to censor you. 644 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,592 You should not give them an inch. 645 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,271 - "Re-Animator's" fun. I don't know what it's about, 646 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,992 like, that--| don't know that it's about 647 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,349 any big ideas whatsoever, 648 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,436 except that it would be fun to keep heads alive 649 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,948 in a basket. - It's about conquering death. 650 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,270 That's really what it's about. 651 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,154 My father passed away 652 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,395 when lwas 14 years old, 653 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,750 and lthink that thatwas the hook for me. 654 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,472 People always say, "If you could 655 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,795 bring anybody back's life, who would it be?" 656 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,513 In my case, it's a-- it's a no-brainer: 657 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,068 It would be my father. 658 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,990 - When you look at most horror movies, I think, 659 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,508 they're about an impossible dream. 660 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,915 - In 1985, "Re-Animator" 661 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,349 and Dan O'Bannon‘s "Return of the Living Dead" 662 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,039 explored the comic frontiers of the zombie genre. 663 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,991 - Brainsl 664 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,713 - That same year, the king ofthe zombies-- 665 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,230 George Romero--was crafting a much darkerfilm, 666 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,316 what he hoped would be the zombie film 667 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,557 to end all zombie films: "Day of the Dead." 668 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,591 - "Day of the Dead" was intended 669 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,598 to be George Romero's $10 million opus. 670 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:51,675 - No... - George Romero's 671 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,358 first two zombie films 672 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:54,833 invented a new kind of monster... 673 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,552 And a new metaphor 674 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:57,669 for life in America. 675 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,280 - One, two, three, go. 676 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,117 - By 1985, he was making 677 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,754 what he hoped would be his ultimate statement, 678 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,916 a zombie film that combined 679 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,996 incredibly realistic special effects 680 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,268 with a powerful message. 681 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,840 - The message of the Reagan era was... 682 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,156 no more war on povefly. no more war on crime, 683 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,431 no more war on racial segregation. 684 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:25,754 Screw it. 685 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,393 We've lost. There's more of them 686 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,192 than there are of us, so you need to retreat 687 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,550 into your protective enclaves and husband your resources. 688 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,272 And that‘s exactly what our characters do. 689 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,995 - You must listen! - Listen to this. 690 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,796 - In "Day of the Dead,” we see the military rule, 691 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,070 and that's even scarier. - I'm running 692 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,230 this monkey farm now, Frankenstein, 693 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,748 and I want to know what the 694 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,109 you're doing with my time! 695 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,037 -A bunch of people who are trying to do good 696 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,638 and find a cure are being ruled 697 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,911 by this military presence that is very aggressive 698 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,236 and will do anything it takes to preserve itself, 699 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:09,998 so that's terrifying as well. 700 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,272 - The zombies are in some ways, you know-- 701 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,356 the ones who are being experimented upon-- 702 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,914 kind of more sympathetic than many of the humans. 703 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,589 - Rhodesl 704 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,393 - In "Dawn ofthe Dead," we're losing. 705 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,158 In "Day of the Dead," we've lost. 706 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,953 - Most good directors that really have a grasp 707 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,672 on the medium can do horror. 708 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,790 It's not as delicate as humor. 709 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,193 - It's not as delicate. 710 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,355 There are some tricks of the trade 711 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,077 - Like his otherzombie films, 712 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,998 "Day of the Dead" was shot in Romero's hometown 713 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,270 of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, 714 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,595 far outside of the Hollywood system. 715 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,108 - But that's what made... 716 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,196 George Romero... 717 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:52,912 such a terrific filmmaker, 718 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,316 was that he was a legit, regional filmmaker, 719 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,954 and what made it special 720 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,560 was the slightly homemade quality 721 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,318 to the movies. 722 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,432 - Everywhere that he would go in Pittsburgh, 723 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,311 you knew somebody that was a zombie. 724 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,271 You knew somebody that was involved 725 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,038 with George Romero's movies, 726 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,798 and that's howl got into the business. 727 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,354 Because when "Day of the Dead" came along, 728 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,789 I had befriended George 729 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,751 because of some mutual family friends, and he's like, 730 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,119 "Hey, I'm doing a sequel to 'Dawn of the Dead.‘ 731 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,798 Do you want a job?" I'm like... 732 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,515 - And this is where George Romero 733 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,393 and Tom Savini-- arguably their creative peaks 734 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,432 at the same time, working together. 735 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,471 - Special effects artists like Rick Baker 736 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,233 and Tom Savini were heralded 737 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,475 as, like, kings and icons of the horror film 738 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:45,953 because they were creating special effects 739 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,513 that were out of this world. 740 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,835 Like something we'd never seen before. 741 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,235 - Vietnam was a lesson in anatomy for me. 742 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,191 lwas a combat photographer. 743 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:55,878 I saw horrible stuff. 744 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,558 In fact, I'm the only make-up artist, I think, 745 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,750 that has seen the real stuff. 746 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,438 In a movie, 747 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,631 when someone dies they close their mouth 748 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,079 and they wanna look pretty for the camera... 749 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,676 And thatjust takes me right out of it, 750 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,790 because that actor doesn't know how to portray death, 751 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,354 or the director doesn't know to tell them... 752 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,709 the mouth always goes slack. 753 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,990 My masterpiece is "Day ofthe Dead." 754 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,679 J‘J‘ 755 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,189 There a lot of cool stuff in--in "Day of the Dead." 756 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,113 We cut the guy's arm off, you know. 757 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:32,912 I dug a hole under the guy 758 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,791 so his real arm goes into the hole. 759 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,752 And tearing Taso's head off... 760 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,193 -And it's actually Greg Nicotero's fingers 761 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,196 in the eyeballs of the fake head, 762 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,593 and we're running cables down 763 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,119 to make the head work, you know, 764 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,878 so it was effects guys 765 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,309 that were the featured zombies tearing the head off. 766 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,839 - My head comes back 767 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,996 as a zombie head in "Day of the Dead." 768 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,395 You gotta think about the way that Tom designed things, 769 00:33:58,440 --> 00:33:59,668 because he approached everything 770 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,233 like it was a magic trick. 771 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:02,998 You know, the idea that you're--you're taking 772 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,032 a special effect and you're deconstructing it 773 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,072 to the point where it's gotta be a magic trick that's gonna 774 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,031 fool the audience. - The disembowelments 775 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,593 in "Day of the Dead" are unmatched. 776 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,830 - Without a doubt, and that's why you get into-- 777 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,872 people who--who watch movies and get--get offended 778 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,638 by the--the gore, and you're like, 779 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,875 ”Well, you know it's corn syrup..." 780 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,433 - It's a real presentation. - Red powered-- 781 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:26,879 red powdered food coloring. 782 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,638 - Millerl 783 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,557 Millerl 784 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,990 - The special makeup effects pioneered by Tom Savini 785 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,996 and Greg Nicotero on "Day of the Dead"... 786 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,598 Led directly 787 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,471 to the amazing work we see today 788 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,954 on "The Walking Dead.‘I 789 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,560 - The kind of household I grew up in was, you know, 790 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,158 "You can't go see 'Day ofthe Dead.‘ 791 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:47,713 That's too--that's too much." 792 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,035 But now you see, 793 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,197 the level of gore that we saw in George Romero's, 794 00:34:53,240 --> 00:34:55,993 "Day of the Dead" on "Walking Dead" every week, 795 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,553 which is insane to me. 796 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,318 J‘J‘ 797 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,157 - Go to the leftl 798 00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:14,711 - In the wake of a zombie apocalypse, 799 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,512 a small band of survivors 800 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,154 look for a safe place to live. 801 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,839 The biggest threat they face aren't zombies, 802 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,030 but other people. 803 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,913 This is the premise of "The Walking Dead," 804 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,872 the TV series that brought realistic horror 805 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,036 to the small screen. 806 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,271 - People used to come to me and say, "Can you make us 807 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:39,992 a violent TV series?‘I 808 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,758 And I'd say, "Well, what makes horror work is you-- 809 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,518 "is you have the threat of killing your characters, 810 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,120 "and what TV--what makes TV work is you want to see 811 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,798 those characters every week..." - Right. 812 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,432 - So you can't have them almost die, and I could never 813 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:50,629 do the violence I wanted to do. - Yeah, yeah. 814 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,159 - Cut to... - Here we are. 815 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:53,952 - Greg Nicotero and "The Walking Dead." 816 00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,917 - "The Walking Dead" for sure 817 00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:03,077 is the next cultural milestone 818 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,236 really since "Dawn ofthe Dead" and "Night of the Living Dead." 819 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,191 And, you know, that‘s really been you. 820 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,832 - "Walking Dead" is basically a Western with-- 821 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,836 with the zombie, apocalypse 822 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,472 set as the backdrop. 823 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,988 If "The Walking Dead" had to be told 824 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,679 in a 2 1/2 hour time slot, you'd never be able to do it. 825 00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:22,199 You wouldn't care about the characters. 826 00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:23,673 You wouldn't really know who Daryl is... 827 00:36:23,720 --> 00:36:25,233 - Yeah. - Who--who Rick is. 828 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,191 - I'm sorry this happened to you. 829 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,839 - The plight of the survivors is a dark reflection 830 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,314 of life in America today. 831 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,591 The mortgage crisis of 2008 resulted in more than 832 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,631 3 million people losing their homes. 833 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,671 - Problems with the housing market... 834 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,399 - Since then, rising housing prices 835 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,476 in the major cities have forced more people 836 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,080 to live on the street. - Global meltdown. 837 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,509 - There's a sense that civilization is fragile. 838 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,152 That any day now, 839 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:57,878 always moving, 840 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,354 surrounded by threats on every side. 841 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:04,918 - That‘s what I always loved-- when "Walking Dead" came out, 842 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,871 lwould say to people, like, "If the zombie apocalypse 843 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,672 "were real, this is the closest thing 844 00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:11,678 "that I've seen to what that would probably feel like 845 00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:13,312 and be like." 846 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,079 - When I first read that script, I didn't-- 847 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,190 you know, I didn't read it as a zombie thing. 848 00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:20,037 | read it as this guy lost his family, 849 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,638 and he woke up, and he didn't know where he was. 850 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,477 And he was gonna do anything 851 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,118 to go find his family, and that's-- 852 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,435 that stuck out on the page way more than a zombie 853 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:28,993 here and there, you know? 854 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,473 And everybody played it like that. 855 00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:34,276 You have to play everything as real as possible. 856 00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:37,832 - There's so many examples on that show where, like-- 857 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,074 You're like, "My God, is this gonna work?" 858 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,633 And the actors... - No, no, nol 859 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,671 - Just pulled it out and made it perfect. 860 00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:44,995 No! 861 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,679 She was playing with me! 862 00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:50,314 She wanted a friendl - She wanted to kill you! 863 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,476 - I was gonna lead her away! 864 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,238 - You could have died. - It's the same thing! 865 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,714 You killed her! You killed her! 866 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,034 - There's a reason there wasn't really 867 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,640 a zombie TV show before. 868 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,912 Effects need 869 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,632 to be really good on a television show 870 00:38:05,720 --> 00:38:08,280 so that people don't fall out of the reality 871 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,675 thatyou're trying to sell. 872 00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:12,950 - The best zombies, I think, are what Greg is doing 873 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,956 in "The Walking Dead." The best zombies today. 874 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,831 And there's a lot of CGI there, you know, 875 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,917 and necessary, because the zombies 876 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,757 have been around for so long, 877 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,031 now they're decaying and rotting, you know? 878 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,911 ' - Just a little more. 879 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,871 There's that one famous-- 880 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,956 the "well walker..." - Stopl 881 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,513 - Come on! - Where he's just 882 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,198 so waterlogged and bloated 883 00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:36,310 that he just sort of, like, comes apart. 884 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:43,912 J‘J‘ 885 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,877 that Greg does, is his team-- 886 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:52,838 behind the monster, you know? 887 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,757 That's--that's when they become scary. 888 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,598 - I never get sick of it, honestly. 889 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,153 They keep--they keep reinventing the wheel 890 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,430 with the zombies, it's nuts. 891 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,838 - Obviously the--the irony is, who are the walking dead? 892 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,950 Is it the actual zombies or is the people? 893 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,558 - Right, right. - What are they willing 894 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,238 to do to each other to survive? 895 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:13,508 And that's... - Yeah, at what point 896 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,437 do you lose your humanity? - Right. 897 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,994 - "Walking Dead" being on for so long surprises me, 898 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,271 'cause y'all should be dead by now, man. 899 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,237 You know, because it doesn't make sense. 900 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,271 To me. 901 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,873 - Doesn't it feel like zombies are cresting now, too? 902 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,195 Yeah, right now it does seem like we're in the middle 903 00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:36,231 of a zombie apocalypse. 904 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,399 Yeah. 905 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,914 The dumbing down of society. 906 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,911 We're all zombies. 907 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,877 - Zombies are representative 908 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,876 of--ofAlzheimeI’s... 909 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,478 a just terrifying disease. 910 00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,115 And zombies are representatives of cancer. 911 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,037 To me, what's happened with the zombie 912 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,310 is now they're representatives of anarchy 913 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,396 and the collapse of government. 914 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,396 The collapse of order. 915 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,432 - Zombies are really sort of a wonderful catch-all metaphor 916 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,357 because they can mean absolutely anything. 917 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,072 Zombies in 1968 918 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,236 are the breakdown of American society. 919 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,354 In 2017 with "The Walking Dead..." 920 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,916 who knows what it represents. 921 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,592 - One take-away could be that everything's hopeless... 922 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,759 -Another take-away could be that humans 923 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,315 will always persevere even when... 924 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,237 it seems like there's no reason to 925 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,918 or that it's impossible to. 926 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,519 - Yeah, zombies will never die. 927 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,073 No pun intended. 928 00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:03,314 - It's so interesting, the resurgence of zombies, 929 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,715 and the fact that they kind of won't ever go away. 930 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:09,599 We'll always be telling stories. 931 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,596 I think we'll-- we're never gonna lose 932 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,312 our fascination with them. 933 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:14,998 - Half a century ago. 934 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,679 George Romero created the modern zombie-- 935 00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:20,757 America's great contribution to monster horror. 936 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,672 Now, zombie movies are an international phenomenon. 937 00:41:25,720 --> 00:41:27,312 J‘J‘ 938 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,715 The zombie plague has infected the world. 939 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,318 As relentless 940 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,157 and unstoppable 941 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,430 as the flesh-eating undead. 942 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,198 - We wake them and we got it all! 70450

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