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I'm now well into Iraq
and what do I think?
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Well, it certainly wasn't
the obvious place to visit
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but that was part of the point,
really.
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I didn't want to go somewhere
where everyone else was going,
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but I particularly wanted to go
to somewhere
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that had been through trauma
and difficulty and...
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And see just how
people deal with it.
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But I do know that
from here onwards,
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when we go south into central Iraq
and on into Basra,
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that things could get
more difficult.
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We've already had a lot of
checkpoints where we have to stop,
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sometimes for ages, while the gear
is checked and we're all checked.
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There's that feeling of suspicion
that perhaps we shouldn't be here.
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So the next bit of the journey,
though the toughest,
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I think will be, for me,
the real revelation.
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This is a tough one.
Erm, yeah. Yeah, it is.
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Iraq -
a country defined by a dictator,
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war and conflict.
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To the world, it seems Iraq cannot
escape it's violent past.
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But, after a week, I'm discovering
there's much more to this country.
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I'm warm at last!
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Following the River Tigris
from north to south...
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This is why I like travelling -
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on the Tigris going through
Baghdad.
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...I'm travelling across
a land that 6,000 years ago
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was the birthplace of civilisation.
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You know, I never thought
I would say,
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This is Michael Palin in Babylon.
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A country that today
is full of surprises.
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HE CH UCKLES SOFTLY
Breathtaking.
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However, Iraq remains one of the
most dangerous places in the world
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and my journey
is a challenging one...
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Ah, now, close down.
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On the horizon are the palaces
that Saddam Hussein built.
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...but I'm determined to get beyond
the military checkpoints
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and see a different side of
a country that is home
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to 40 million people.
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I'm very proud that I'm Iraqi.
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Most places would have
the handrail there as well as here.
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As I head south, the landscape
changes into the desert
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that covers around half or Iraq.
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Yeah, this is the trickier part
of Iraq -
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this is federal Iraq with rules
and bureaucracy
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that are well known
to be quite complicated,
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so I don't quite know how fast
we'll make it through.
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This next stage
of my journey will take me south to
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the oil fields of Kirkuk,
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before I rejoin the Tigris river
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in Saddam Hussein's hometown,
Tikrit.
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From there we head to Samarra
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and finally Baghdad,
the capital of Iraq.
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Getting hotter now as we head south
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and...we've been passed by
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an enormous number
of petrol tankers,
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er, one after the other.
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Kirkuk is a centre
of Iraq's oil industry,
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which generates
around $100 billion every year.
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As-salaam alaykum.
As-salaam alaykum.
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These are the offices of North Oil
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and just like
all oil companies here,
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they're owned by the government.
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Hello, hello. Hello, Michael.
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As-salaam alaykum.
As-salaam alaykum, thank you.
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Yeah, so he is the man -
he's helping us
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with all this paperwork
and the permit. Thank you.
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We're trying to get access to
the nearby oil field,
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but this is where
Iraqi bureaucracy kicks in.
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Aman, you're our fixer -
you're going to take us
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all the way down to Basra -
but I'm very, very confused.
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Tell me, what's actually going on at
the moment?
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Why is it taking so long?
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Erm, we are actually... This is like
the Kirkuk northern oil company -
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it's, like, a really sensitive spot.
Erm,
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there is so many authorities have
to approve
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because it's like one of
the main oil company
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in the country and it has
a lot of security.
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What are they worried about so much?
Well, apparently they haven't seen
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lots of foreigners
like you guys to visit.
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Like, for them when I said
a foreign crew is visiting... Yeah.
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"Oh, my God." Like, "What the hell?"
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MICHAEL CHUCKLES
It's like...
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We're dangerous.
We're dangerous, Aman.
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Despite of, like, the fact
that you are British and you are...
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You guys, you actually built
this building...
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Yes, of course, of course.
..er, a century ago.
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Iraq is not often remembered
as a British colony
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but it was Britain
that was responsible
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for drawing its borders
after the First World War.
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To an extent, we created modern Iraq
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and then ruled it until 1932.
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And in 1927 it was the British
who discovered oil
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right here in Kirkuk
and built these offices.
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But after an hour of looking at
them, I'm still none the wiser
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as to whether we'll be allowed
into the oil field.
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Thank you, I'd like to announce
my resignation
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from television documentaries
as from now.
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I'm going to work for
the Northern Oil Company -
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there's a gap for me in
the department of confusion
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with a very, very small desk
which is upside down
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and three men bring me
cups of tea every 17 minutes.
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I bet when the British had this,
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there'd be people scurrying around
and they'd be saying...
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A lot of shouting.
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"Hey boy, boy, get my car."
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Then, suddenly,
there's a flurry of activity.
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He just gave me good news -
like, we are free of movement.
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Fantastic, fantastic. Finally.
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And finally our cars - and six more
full of company officials -
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make our way inside
the oil fields of Baba Gurgur.
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This is where oil was first
discovered in Iraq
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and the main reason the British
knew it was here
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was thanks to this small area
of naturally burning gas.
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It's known as the eternal flame.
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TRANSLATION:
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Almost 4,000 years.
That's incredible, isn't it? Wow!
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This is quite a humble, modest site,
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not a lot to look at,
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and yet it's enormously significant
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because the fire here has been
burning for 4,000 years
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and this is what indicated that oil
was round here.
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And you think all
the implications of that -
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the British taking over
the Iraq oil industry,
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the war in Iraq, 2003.
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And over 90% of Iraq's economy
is based on oil.
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This is where it started.
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Our friends from North Oil don't
seem to be particularly chatty,
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so I decided to chat to Amar about
the impact oil has had on Iraq.
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Do you think it's been
a good thing for the country?
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Well, unfortunately, the oil was
never good for this country -
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it was always the source
of problems,
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it was always the source of war.
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Iraq for the last 40 years almost
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has been going
from one war to another,
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from one sanction to another.
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I mean, other countries
like Dubai, Qatar, the Emirates
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seem to have spent the oil money
very, very sort of lavishly
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for their country.
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I mean, could it have been
spent better here in Iraq?
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Well, the answer is it was going to
the pocket of corrupt
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or used by the dictatorship,
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you know, like during Saddam time.
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Ancl we are very jealous
of those people in the Gulf,
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for example, like, being,
using their fortune in a good way
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in the time that Iraqi are...
His fortune is waste.
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Iraq's economy is still
totally dependent on oil,
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but with widespread corruption
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and a society where more than half
the working population
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are employed by the government,
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the oil money disappears quickly.
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Downtown Kirkuk has limited charms.
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But its Plaza Hotel gives me time
to remind myself about one of
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the evils Iraq has had to deal with.
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Saddam Hussein,
who ruled Iraq from 1979 to 2003,
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is thought to have amassed
a fortune of $10 billion dollars
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from Iraq's oil.
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He was also a brutal dictator,
responsible for the deaths
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of hundreds of thousands
of his own people.
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And tomorrow, I'm heading
to his hometown, Tikrit,
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one of the most fascinating
but dangerous places in Iraq.
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Planning a road trip across Iraq
is unsurprisingly a tricky business.
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We're packing up for the next part
of our journey to Tikrit
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and a lot of people -
most people, actually -
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would fly.
This is quite a dangerous area.
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And I just noticed today that,
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"Iraq begins anti-Daesh/lsis
operation north of country."
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So where this operation
is taking place
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is a place called Mahoul Mountain,
er, which we'll be passing through.
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And this is where the remnants of
Isis and Daesh still are.
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So it's a difficult, dangerous area,
but hopefully we'll reach Tikrit.
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The fact that
there are still pockets
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of the Islamic extremist group
Isis around here
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is a reminder that Iraq has been
ripped apart by fighting since 2003.
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The condition of the road -
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there are heavy grooves where tanks
have gone along.
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And here we go - oop, wait for it.
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Hey. Well...
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On cue.
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One of the most obvious signs of how
militarised Iraq has become
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are the security checkpoints
on roads.
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Passport, please.
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Passport, yeah. There we go.
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There are parts of life here
when you just have to sit there...
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Michael? ..and eat sweets.
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Oh, thank you.
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They don't normally like cameras
at checkpoints,
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but Iraq can sometimes surprise you.
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This is the first time
we've been allowed to film,
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erm, at a checkpoint.
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Don't know quite why
but there's a colonel here
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and the colonel came up
and he was very, very friendly.
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And the guy checking our passports
is smiling,
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which is very,
very rare at the checkpoints.
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It's quite a fancy checkpoint, this,
rather a fine work of design.
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Mostly they're just basic sheds.
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I'm slightly nervous about this
freedom we've got to wonder about.
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OFFICIALS SHOUT
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Ah, no, close down.
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OK.
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Happily,
our friendly colonel steps in
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and filming is allowed
to continue...
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...as long as we give them a photo.
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OK, yeah, all right. Instagram.
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I don't have an Instagram
account, actually.
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So, he has one.
There we are, all in.
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Yeah. Welcome to Samarra.
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Thank you, thank you, thank you.
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Very nice...
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Very nice
to be welcomed with a smile.
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Appreciate that, thank you.
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Welcome, welcome to Iraq,
welcome to Tikrit and we...
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So much to look forward to.
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Much later than planned,
we leave Checkpoint Cheerful.
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Farewell, thank you. Thank you all.
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Well, that was amazing.
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I mean, like, sort of...
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...peak of hospitality
at that checkpoint.
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Normally you just check through
and off you go.
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This time they said, er,
we could film there,
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so I feel, you know,
rather boosted by that.
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Mind you, it means the rest of
the day will be a mad rush.
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Soon we approach
the outskirts of Tikrit,
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which is probably best known
as Saddam Hussein's hometown.
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I think over there you can just
see on the horizon,
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rising up from the rest of the city,
and another there,
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the palaces that, er,
Saddam Hussein built
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not only for himself but for his,
sort of, supporters.
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Tikrit also reunites me
with the river.
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Looking out at the Tigris,
which we haven't seen for a while.
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Oh, those palaces are extraordinary.
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Saddam Hussein built hundreds
of massive palaces across Iraq
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during his three decades of power,
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and many of them are in Tikrit.
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When the town was captured by the
Sunni Islamic extremist group Isis
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in June 2014, they took over
many of the riverside palaces -
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using them as military bases.
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I've been given special permission
to enter the palace complex
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by the Shia paramilitary group
that now controls it.
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But they don't want to show me
the palaces themselves -
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instead I'm directed to a small
building on the side of the river.
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Once used to dock boats,
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it became the site of a terrible act
of terror against Shia Muslims.
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This is the scene of one of
the grimmest of all the events
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in Iraq's recent grim history.
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It's called the Speicher Massacre.
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What happened here was that when
Isis had taken over Tikrit in 2014,
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er, they brought down here, erm,
a party of cadets
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from the Speicher base,
originally American base,
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and brought them here supposedly
telling them it was a day off,
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took their weapons.
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Brought them down here to
the side of the River Tigris...
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...got them to kneel down
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and shot them all
and pushed them into the river.
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1,700 Shia cadets were killed here
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and that's what all this is about
for the...
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Particularly for the Shias, but,
you know, for anyone,
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this is the scene of a devastating
and really horrific event
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right by...
right by the Tigris river,
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flowing by, as it has done
many thousands of years.
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Can't have witnessed anything
much worse than that.
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They were all so young,
little thing...
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“YOUHQ boys
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Here are the various photos of them.
Relatives have laid them out.
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Yeah.
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It's just horrible.
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And utterly callous.
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This place has now be com a makeshift
shrine to the dead cadets,
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who were all Shia Muslims.
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Shia and Sunni are
the two main sects of Islam
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and Isis is an extremist Sunni group
who see all Shias as heretics.
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Here, where the Tigris runs through
Tikrit, there could hardly be, erm,
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two more telling examples of
the futility of war.
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Right here
1,700 young men massacred
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and thrown into the river.
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And across the way there, one of
Saddam Hussein's many palaces -
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now broken and destroyed.
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What good did it do anyone?
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You kn ow?
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I'd been warned before I came
to Iraq
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that it wasn't going to be
an easy journey.
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And as I get deeper
into the country,
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I find my natural optimism
taking a beating.
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Terrible things have happened here.
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You just can't escape it.
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Thankfully, it's time to move on.
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We're now, if you like,
reunited with the Tigris.
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We're running alongside the river...
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...and it's taking us to Samarra.
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As we head further south alongside
the river, we pass the ruins
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of the 1,000-year-old
Qasr al-'Ashiq palace.
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It's a timely reminder that
there's more to Iraq than conflict.
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Thousands of years ago,
the Tigris helped give birth
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to some of the earliest
human civilisations.
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And that is the other side
of Iraq's story.
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And as we enter
the historic town of Samarra,
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one of the country's most famous
monuments starts to emerge.
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This is the great mosque of Samarra.
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Built in the ninth century,
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over 80,000 people can pray here
at one time.
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And at one end is its distinctive
spiral minaret,
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built 1,200 years ago.
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The word "Samarra" translates as
"a joy for all those that see it".
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And seeing this brings me my first
feeling of joy for quite a few days.
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Right, here we go.
This is the easy bit.
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The minaret has 650 steps
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and nothing to stop you
falling off the side.
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Whoops! Thank you. Shukran.
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It's best for me to stay
on the inside.
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I'm not trying to scare myself
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but most places would have
the handrail there as well as here.
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But I suppose that's...part of it.
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Wowee!
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That fantastic view of
the old mosque.
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Once the biggest mosque
in the world, that.
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Ooh!
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Oh!
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Best not to look
right over the edge.
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And... Oh, you meet people
on the phone coming down.
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Thank you. All right,
you stay there, I'll go here.
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I'm unsure of the etiquette.
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Should people walk round me
or should I walk round them?
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It's quite a ways down now,
isn't it?
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Whole thing's about 52 metres.
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I do think the steps seem
to be getting shorter as we go.
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Must be near the top.
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Hello. Hello.
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Which way, are you?
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All right?
Yeah, you fall off, not me.
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Wow! The Tigris.
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Fantastic!
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What a view.
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The last bit.
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Despite increasing levels
of vertigo,
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I manage to make it to the top -
and the view is spectacular.
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Iraq is often called
the cradle of civilisation
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and this was largely thanks
to its rivers,
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which flooded
and irrigated the land,
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encouraging humans to settle on
their banks over 10,000 years ago.
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It's a little busier than I'd like
but I'm pleased to be here.
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Well, I've actually made it
to the top here and, erm,
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feel slightly unstable but...
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...there's absolutely no protection
here at all.
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But somehow this is
a kind of friendly building.
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Looking around and seeing the
Tigris,
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which feeds all the agriculture,
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and it gives you a sense
of the history of this place.
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I mean, on the journey so far
I've really experienced some of
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the harsher realities
of modern Iraq.
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And it makes you think that its
history's been very, very short
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and very, very brutal.
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In fact, it's been long
and probably very brutal.
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But it has been lived in by people
for 10,000 years, some of it,
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and this building itself makes
you think how skilful they were,
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how brilliant they were at putting
buildings like this together
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when Iraq was at the heart of
the civilised world.
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As dusk falls, I realise Iraq is a
place that toys with your emotions.
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Its recent history can plunge
you into the depths of despair.
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But if you look beyond it, then you
can see there's something impressive
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and inspiring about this country.
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The next morning we continue our
Journey
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to the farming village of Dhuluiya,
on the banks of the Tigris.
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Throughout human history,
the Tigris has been
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a source of life in this part of
the world,
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particularly for agriculture.
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But thanks to global warming,
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the water levels of Iraq's rivers
are falling each year.
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But we have another issue
to deal with.
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This is what's making our progress
through Iraq now quite difficult
368
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because, erm,
the roadblocks are everywhere -
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even in the countryside here.
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And you come to a roadblock
and you're never sure,
371
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erm, how long they're
going to keep you.
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You have to give your passport,
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there's a great deal of debate
and talking.
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It's kind of frustrating.
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Eventually we're allowed through.
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And as we start to pass fields,
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it becomes clear just how dry
the land has become.
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I'm meeting a local farmer, Has him,
who wants to show me his river,
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a tributary of the Tigris that once
supplied his crops with water.
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So, that river is very important
to you.
381
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How much of your water
comes from the river?
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Before, er,
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the water covered all of this area.
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It was five metres. Five metres, OK,
yes. It's just a trickle right now.
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00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,970
Yeah.
Now, since last three seasons...
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...there's no rain - little rain.
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00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,690
The water means the life, you know.
Yeah.
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00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,810
So water's more important to Iraq
than oil?
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00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,530
Of course. Of course.
390
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,730
We put in our pockets
nothing from oil.
391
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,130
No. Yeah. No, no.
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00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,130
While talking to Has him, I realise
that our armed friends
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from the checkpoint have arrived.
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Unknown to us,
Isis have been active in the area.
395
00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:32,570
The militias here -
are they still operating?
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00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:33,930
Yes. Really?
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Er, some clays ago they saw
them during the night
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moving there, just there.
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Ancl they attacked the checkpoint
there... OK. ..some clays ago, yeah.
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So they are around here.
And does that frighten you or...?
401
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,410
Yeah, yes, you know, we use the...
402
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:55,610
We use our land for agriculture
but we feel dangerous every time.
403
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,890
Looking around this arid landscape,
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00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:04,210
I suspect Has him is more worried
about a lack of rain than Isis.
405
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,610
Nothing is growing here.
These fields should be green,
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full of crops,
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but for acres and acres
there is nothing.
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The Iraq government has warned
that 90% of agricultural land
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could soon become desert.
410
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Despite the lack of crops,
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Has him kindly invites us back to his
house in the village for lunch.
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This is...
This is fantastic - what a spread.
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This is all, er, home-made. Yep.
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Yeah, er, this is, er,
chicken, you know.
415
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:51,450
Yeah, never seen chicken quite like
that. That's beautifully done.
416
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:52,690
Oh, thank you.
417
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,930
It's very much a family affair
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but there's a notable absence
of any women.
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And who makes... Who makes the food?
Do you all make a bit?
420
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,170
My mum and my wife.
421
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,450
Oh, right. They've been working away
behind the scenes?
422
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,690
Yeah.
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00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,370
We must thank them.
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00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,930
We must thank them if we can,
cos it's wonderful.
425
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,410
Are we... Is it possible to say
thank you to them?
426
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,090
Yeah, no problem.
427
00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:20,370
Mm, mm.
428
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,330
At home probably we would, erm...
429
00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:25,690
My wife would probably be
at the meal too. Yeah, yeah.
430
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,010
So that's a difference here,
isn't it? Yeah.
431
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,250
After the meal
comes the ubiquitous sweet tea -
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a favourite of Amar, our fixer.
433
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,170
Cheers, bottoms up.
434
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,130
I can't imagine like people
drinking tea without sugar, man.
435
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,450
I have seen lots of friends are
doing it but it's, like, nonsense.
436
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,930
You see, we have lots of
health problems
437
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,090
and sugar is supposed
to be not good for you.
438
00:27:51,120 --> 00:27:53,570
Are your teeth all right?
They're all there.
439
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,370
Not necessarily in the right order!
LAUGHTER
440
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,730
I have... This row - it's all...
441
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,570
It's in the wrong way, you see?
Oh, it is. but I never fix them.
442
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:09,130
But none of my...
all girls I dated have ever said,
443
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,130
like, "Your teeth is wrong,
444
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,930
"something is wrong with
your teeth," so it's fine for me.
445
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,530
They're too polite, probably.
They're too polite.
446
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,850
THEY CHUCKLE
447
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,930
As our jovial lunch goes on,
448
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,370
concerns about the lack of rain
seem to fade into the background.
449
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,530
Hashim's problems don't seem
to weigh him down
450
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:37,050
but this is Iraq, where resilience
is part of the national character.
451
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,770
As dusk falls,
we leave Dhluiya behind
452
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and head south towards the capital.
453
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This is the halfway point on my
journey across Iraq
454
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and I feel a distinct sense of
wonder as we finally enter Baghdad.
455
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,810
After a few days on the road,
456
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,530
it looks like a glittering
metropolis.
457
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,450
Wow! That is amazing.
458
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,690
Looks like several palaces
and a mosque rolled into one.
459
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,010
It's actually the railway station.
Dazzling!
460
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,850
And for me, there's something
461
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,050
particularly special
about being here.
462
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,690
Well, we've followed the Tigris
river all the way to Baghdad.
463
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,210
Here we are crossing it.
464
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,610
It's rather amazing, cos the
first book I was ever given
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in my life was from my father
at the age of seven
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00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,010
and it was
Tales From The Arabian Nights.
467
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,010
And from that time onwards,
468
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:51,290
Baghdad has always had this sort of
magical, mysterious, exotic quality.
469
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,490
Yet here I am,
for the first time in my life,
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00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,290
at the age of 78, in Baghdad.
471
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,530
And my hotel leaves me in no doubt
of where we've arrived.
472
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,210
The next morning, I wake up
in the capital city of Iraq.
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00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,650
Well, we're getting one of these
little ferry boats across the Tigris
474
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,050
to the old city there.
475
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,290
Quite enjoying being by the Tigris
on a lovely day
476
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,650
and...about to go on
her jade-green waters.
477
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,890
Thank you. Shukran.
478
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,370
Hello. Hello there.
479
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,130
This is why I like travelling.
480
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,130
We're on the Tigris,
going through Baghdad.
481
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,610
Baghdad dates back over
a thousand years,
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the Tigris making it an ideal centre
for trade and travel.
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00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,850
Now one of the biggest cities
in the Middle East,
484
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,650
it has a population of more than
eight million.
485
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:12,810
It's the weekend,
486
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,210
and even though it's only 10am
things look busy.
487
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,130
OK, very good. I love you.
488
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,090
You love me, do you?
Well, I love you too.
489
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,450
This does me a lot of good
at my age, you know.
490
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,290
THEY SING
491
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,690
This is Mutanabbi Street,
492
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,170
named after a famous
tenth-century Iraqi poet.
493
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,570
For a thousand years,
this area has drawn in poets,
494
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,450
artists and intellectuals.
495
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,810
This is how to clean shoes.
I love that.
496
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,890
Look at that...technique.
497
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:58,970
There we are.
498
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,090
Today, it feels like half
the population of the city
499
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,410
are crammed into this small area.
500
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,890
But after Kirkuk and Tikrit,
501
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,090
the buzz of downtown Baghdad
is something of a revelation.
502
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,090
Next to Mutanabbi Street
is the Qishla building,
503
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,410
built by the Ottomans
as a garrison in 1861.
504
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,050
Today it's a cultural centre
505
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:35,610
and on Fridays,
its grounds are open to the public.
506
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,810
And, once again,
it's all about poetry.
507
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:40,930
TRANSLATION:
508
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,490
You can tell they're poets -
509
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,370
somehow the man with the beret
and the glasses
510
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,170
and the beard could only be a poet.
511
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,650
He's almost like
a 20th-century poet.
512
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,850
It's a sort of poetry slam really.
513
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,810
They're poets all fighting with each
other to get the audience going.
514
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,890
And erm, a lot of humour. You can
tell there's lots of smiles in it.
515
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,610
So I think it's Iraqi satire
I think they're doing here.
516
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,610
CROWD CHEER
517
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,410
I'm heartened by this place,
518
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,650
After a week in Iraq,
519
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,050
it can sometimes feel like
the problems are insurmountable.
520
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,890
But on a sunny weekend in Baghdad,
521
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,890
all of that just seems
to fade into the background.
522
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:38,250
And then, by chance,
I bump into Hassan...from Wimbledon.
523
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,090
I'm from London. Oh, are you really?
Are you here, what, for...?
524
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,290
Erm, I'm vising my family.
This is my cousin. Erm, we're...
525
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,610
How do you do? I'm here for
the first time since, erm...
526
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,730
Since leaving in 2000 and.
You were born here?
527
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,930
I was born in Iraq, yeah.
You're born in Iraq. Yeah.
528
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,650
So what do you think now?
529
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,410
What do you think now,
how do you feel?
530
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:58,850
Honestly? Yeah.
531
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,130
It's overwhelming to hear
the stories, the conflict -
532
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,810
before Saddam, after Saddam,
everything, you know...
533
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,290
Yeah, in between.
What the country went through. Yeah.
534
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:13,330
The Iraqi people stay strong and one
thing about us is we stay, we live.
535
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,370
No matter what happens,
we continue with our clay
536
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,250
and that's one thing
that Iraq prides itself on.
537
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,970
Much as I find myself enjoying
the old city,
538
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,170
it's hard not to notice, once again,
539
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,010
how few women you see
out and about in Iraq.
540
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,490
And it's something of a relief
when we find someone who's happy
541
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,050
not only to dine with me in public,
but also be filmed.
542
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,130
This is a very ancient way
to cook the fish here in Iraq,
543
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,850
especially in
the southern region, erm...
544
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:53,490
Sarah Eunice is studying at
the Baghdad university of technology
545
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:58,130
and has invited me to try
Iraq's national dish, masgouf.
546
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,690
They cook it vertically,
not horizontally like that.
547
00:35:01,720 --> 00:35:05,050
As you see, it's hanged like this.
548
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,450
Masgouf is basically carp,
549
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,370
a river fish that was once abundant
in the Tigris
550
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,330
and has been eaten on its shores
for thousands of years.
551
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,650
Like many places in Iraq,
552
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,530
our restaurant is divided
into two parts -
553
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,170
the main dining hall is
for men only,
554
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,730
while the family area outside
555
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,330
is where women and children
are allowed to eat.
556
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,490
Actually, Iraqis, they prefer,
as I told you,
557
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:39,090
to eat fish with the whole family,
so it's a gathering meal.
558
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,970
So it's quite unusual to have...
Yeah. ..just two people eating it?
559
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,490
Just two people eating it.
560
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,410
Only if they are falling in love
and his wife, she is loving to him.
561
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,210
Really? Well... Yeah, I mean...
562
00:35:49,240 --> 00:35:50,730
He wants to please her.
563
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,050
We can't exactly do that
but anyway we'll pretend.
564
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,330
Anyway... We'll pretend
we're falling in love.
565
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,370
Yeah. So, actually, erm,
for Iraqis they eat,
566
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,250
as I told you, the fish with
red rice. I'm gonna use my hand.
567
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,170
Yeah, OK. We should use our hands,
shouldn't we?
568
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,410
Look at that fat. Yeah.
569
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,610
There's one. What's that?
Is that... There's one here.
570
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,010
It's a bit hot.
571
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:17,690
Though born in Iraq, Sarah spent
much of her childhood in Malaysia,
572
00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:22,770
exposing her to slightly more gender
equality than you see around here.
573
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,610
So, what do you think
of modern Iraq now?
574
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,810
I mean, this is...
This is lovely food and all that
575
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:33,250
but we have to eat out here
because you're a woman and I'm a man
576
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,890
and we can't eat in there,
which is men only. Yeah, mm-hm.
577
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,890
What do you think about that?
Yeah, these kind of rules
578
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,530
and regulations,
they've put back culturally.
579
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,490
Yeah. But actually I am respecting
their rules and regulations
580
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,490
but I'm trying to change it. Mm.
581
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,650
Erm, I'm very patient with it
because I'm...
582
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,850
I know that changing takes
period of time.
583
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:58,050
But what I'm trying
with other people is to change
584
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,690
the mind-set of older generations.
585
00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:04,490
Because these kind of generations,
they got raised like this.
586
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,810
It's not their problem,
it's their... Yeah.
587
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,530
The way they're raised.
How do you...
588
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,850
How would you meet
a young man or something like that?
589
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,650
Because I was told really only
couples who are engaged
590
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,370
to each other can go out together.
591
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,890
Yeah, that's true. Actually,
for me and my family we go out,
592
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,730
they allowed me here to go out with
the groups of females and males,
593
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,970
then I'm allowed in this case.
594
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,890
But in other cases,
it's only to be specific.
595
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:34,290
For example, now I cannot go out
with a guy by his car
596
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,490
and drive me home.
No, it's not appropriate.
597
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,770
Can't be done? Yeah, yeah.
Cannot be clone.
598
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,490
But if it was, like, Uber
then I'm allowed,
599
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,770
because I'm sitting in the backside,
not in the... Oh, I see.
600
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,370
...in the front seat.
601
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,170
Are people... Are Iraqis still proud
of their country?
602
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,650
Yeah, they are.
I would say I'm one of them.
603
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,490
I'm very proud that I'm Iraqi, Yeah.
604
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,690
Like, everywhere I go I'm proud
that I speak Arabic,
605
00:37:56,720 --> 00:37:59,690
I'm proud that I'm wearing my veil.
606
00:37:59,720 --> 00:38:02,250
Yeah, it's my identity. Yeah.
607
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,450
You cannot choose your identity
608
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,210
but you can choose if you want
to love it or not.
609
00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:12,250
It's been a long but enlightening
day on the streets of Baghdad.
610
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,690
Tomorrow could be very different.
611
00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:18,650
I've been given permission to enter
the infamous green zone,
612
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,730
the most militarised part of
the city.
613
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,090
For many of us,
our lasting image of Baghdad
614
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,850
was created almost 20 years ago.
615
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,170
TONY BLAIR: On Tuesday night,
I gave the order for British forces
616
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,210
to take part in military action
in Iraq.
617
00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:49,650
Tonight,
British servicemen and women
618
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,650
are engaged from air, land and sea.
619
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,410
One of the iconic moments of
the Iraq war
620
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,850
was when a statue of Saddam Hussein
was toppled in Firdos Square.
621
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,050
And this is that same square today.
622
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,210
This is Firdos Square
623
00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:19,050
and here behind me
on April the 9th 2003,
624
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:23,010
perhaps the most famous
statue toppling in history,
625
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,610
Saddam Hussein's statue was
pulled down,
626
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,210
hit with slippers.
627
00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:34,250
Total jubilation as they brought
Saddam Hussein's reign to an end -
628
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,010
the great symbolic moment was here.
629
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,610
And I think for many people
this was where, you know...
630
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,130
The last thing we remember
about Iraq, the end of the war.
631
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,210
And you look around now at Baghdad
632
00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:49,570
and you can see ads for
mobile phones,
633
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,810
and mobile phones were, I think,
prohibited by Saddam Hussein.
634
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:57,210
The just general feeling that
everything has moved on.
635
00:39:57,240 --> 00:40:00,730
Firdos Square is now, erm, a very
different... A very different place.
636
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,530
However, there's one lasting
reminder of the Iraq war in Baghdad
637
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,330
that's hard to ignore.
638
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,730
Surrounded by a concrete wall
and high security,
639
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,770
the green zone is a city
within a city.
640
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,290
It's been hard to get permission
to enter this bubble of politicians
641
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,650
and international diplomats.
642
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,730
And I've been warned that security
is tight.
643
00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:30,170
But then as we approach
the security checkpoint...
644
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,250
...we're waved through without being
stopped for the first time in weeks.
645
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,250
So maybe Iraq is starting
to put its guard down.
646
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,050
This is where all the embassies are,
647
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,770
the last perimeter walls,
648
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,010
which apparently used to be
all over Baghdad.
649
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,210
Before it was sealed off from
the city,
650
00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:57,690
this area was the centre of power
under Saddam Hussein.
651
00:40:57,720 --> 00:41:01,850
And I'm here to see what is probably
the most famous icon of that time.
652
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,170
Built in the 1980s,
it's known as the victory arch.
653
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,770
40 metres high,
654
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,290
the swords were cast from
the weapons of fallen soldiers
655
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,450
in the Iran-Iraq war.
656
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,410
There's really
no more obvious example
657
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:35,410
of Saddam Hussein's massive ego
than this victory arch,
658
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,290
erm, here in the green zone.
659
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,530
And it is on a megalomanic scale.
660
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,450
You can see the hands there
holding the swords.
661
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,530
And apparently this thumb up here
662
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,610
was based actually on
Saddam's own thumbprint.
663
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,370
I think you look at it and,
all right, it's about Saddam's ego
664
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,210
and we've seen examples
of that all over the country -
665
00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:09,250
buildings, huge buildings
either neglected or destroyed.
666
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,210
But, I mean,
apart from anything else,
667
00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:15,010
just what he took out of
this country to build this
668
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,930
and the parade ground here...
669
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,330
...which he used
to go through on a horse,
670
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:22,690
waving grandly,
671
00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:26,570
and then there's a pavilion up there
where he used to review the troops
672
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,490
while firing his rifle in the air.
673
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:34,050
So this is, er...
Yeah, it's all about megalomania.
674
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,610
And it didn't work out too well
for him in the end.
675
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,250
Amar remembers what life was like
under Saddam Hussein
676
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,090
and during the Iraq war.
677
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:53,250
What did you think at
the time of the allied invasion?
678
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,690
Well, honestly, I was very happy
679
00:42:56,720 --> 00:43:00,010
because I lived 13 years
during sanctions, but...
680
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,250
So, yeah, I mean...
681
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,450
So, despite the fact that
bombs and rockets were hitting,
682
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:10,130
er, Baghdad in 2003, you felt this
was better than nothing happening?
683
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:14,210
I was very overwhelmed and
very happy to see the US army
684
00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:17,650
in my town.
I chanted, "Long life, Bush."
685
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,570
Right. I regretted later,
686
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:23,290
but at that moment
if you asked me how I felt
687
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:27,330
I can tell you, I was so happy.
Because it was end of the sanctions,
688
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,370
end of the Saddam era
689
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:35,650
and, like, we were so optimistic
for a new life, new future.
690
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,970
So, what was your attitude to
the anti-war protests in London
691
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,330
and the rest of Europe
and all around the world?
692
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,370
To be honest, I was... I was
against this protest. Were you?
693
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,410
Ancl I was not happy to see these
people protesting against the war.
694
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,930
Regime was not easy.
The regime was very tough and,
695
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,970
er, brutal against the people.
696
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,330
Sadly, things did not improve
after the war.
697
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:06,570
Instead of peace and prosperity
came insurgency and violence.
698
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,690
CHANTING
699
00:44:11,720 --> 00:44:13,650
But my time in Baghdad
700
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,330
makes me think that things
are finally turning a corner.
701
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,570
So as I enter my final week in Iraq,
702
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,090
I hope to get a sense of
where the future lies
703
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,730
for the people of this
beguiling country.
704
00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:30,170
Next time...
705
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,330
As-salaam alaykum. Good morning.
706
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:33,930
...| go back to school.
707
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,210
When you think of Iraq,
they know the famous places
708
00:44:37,240 --> 00:44:39,130
but they don't know what Iraq is.
709
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:40,730
HORN HONKS
710
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,690
...catch the Basra Express...
711
00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:45,730
Oh! Breathtaking.
712
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,250
...visit treasured sites
old and new...
713
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,650
Saddam certainly knew what he was
doing when he wanted a nice view.
714
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,210
...and the Tigris and I...
715
00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:55,410
Whoa!
716
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,690
...reach our final destination.
717
00:44:57,720 --> 00:45:00,810
This is it, this is the end of Iraq.
718
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,050
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