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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,890 I'm now well into Iraq and what do I think? 2 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,410 Well, it certainly wasn't the obvious place to visit 3 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,730 but that was part of the point, really. 4 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,490 I didn't want to go somewhere where everyone else was going, 5 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,450 but I particularly wanted to go to somewhere 6 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,810 that had been through trauma and difficulty and... 7 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,290 And see just how people deal with it. 8 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,530 But I do know that from here onwards, 9 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,050 when we go south into central Iraq and on into Basra, 10 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,050 that things could get more difficult. 11 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,930 We've already had a lot of checkpoints where we have to stop, 12 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,250 sometimes for ages, while the gear is checked and we're all checked. 13 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,330 There's that feeling of suspicion that perhaps we shouldn't be here. 14 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,410 So the next bit of the journey, though the toughest, 15 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,010 I think will be, for me, the real revelation. 16 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:06,050 This is a tough one. Erm, yeah. Yeah, it is. 17 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,570 Iraq - a country defined by a dictator, 18 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,250 war and conflict. 19 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,050 To the world, it seems Iraq cannot escape it's violent past. 20 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,370 But, after a week, I'm discovering there's much more to this country. 21 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,650 I'm warm at last! 22 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,970 Following the River Tigris from north to south... 23 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,330 This is why I like travelling - 24 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,650 on the Tigris going through Baghdad. 25 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,490 ...I'm travelling across a land that 6,000 years ago 26 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,530 was the birthplace of civilisation. 27 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,370 You know, I never thought I would say, 28 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,130 This is Michael Palin in Babylon. 29 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,370 A country that today is full of surprises. 30 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,290 HE CH UCKLES SOFTLY Breathtaking. 31 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:00,570 However, Iraq remains one of the most dangerous places in the world 32 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,330 and my journey is a challenging one... 33 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,530 Ah, now, close down. 34 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,330 On the horizon are the palaces that Saddam Hussein built. 35 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,410 ...but I'm determined to get beyond the military checkpoints 36 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,730 and see a different side of a country that is home 37 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,650 to 40 million people. 38 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,970 I'm very proud that I'm Iraqi. 39 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,530 Most places would have the handrail there as well as here. 40 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,610 As I head south, the landscape changes into the desert 41 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,170 that covers around half or Iraq. 42 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,530 Yeah, this is the trickier part of Iraq - 43 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,290 this is federal Iraq with rules and bureaucracy 44 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,250 that are well known to be quite complicated, 45 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,410 so I don't quite know how fast we'll make it through. 46 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,530 This next stage of my journey will take me south to 47 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,210 the oil fields of Kirkuk, 48 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,010 before I rejoin the Tigris river 49 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,610 in Saddam Hussein's hometown, Tikrit. 50 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,810 From there we head to Samarra 51 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,530 and finally Baghdad, the capital of Iraq. 52 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,850 Getting hotter now as we head south 53 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,050 and...we've been passed by 54 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,250 an enormous number of petrol tankers, 55 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:31,730 er, one after the other. 56 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,370 Kirkuk is a centre of Iraq's oil industry, 57 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:41,090 which generates around $100 billion every year. 58 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,970 As-salaam alaykum. As-salaam alaykum. 59 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,890 These are the offices of North Oil 60 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,890 and just like all oil companies here, 61 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:54,770 they're owned by the government. 62 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,290 Hello, hello. Hello, Michael. 63 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,450 As-salaam alaykum. As-salaam alaykum, thank you. 64 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,890 Yeah, so he is the man - he's helping us 65 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,370 with all this paperwork and the permit. Thank you. 66 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:08,370 We're trying to get access to the nearby oil field, 67 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,410 but this is where Iraqi bureaucracy kicks in. 68 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,010 Aman, you're our fixer - you're going to take us 69 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,730 all the way down to Basra - but I'm very, very confused. 70 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,890 Tell me, what's actually going on at the moment? 71 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:20,970 Why is it taking so long? 72 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,370 Erm, we are actually... This is like the Kirkuk northern oil company - 73 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,370 it's, like, a really sensitive spot. Erm, 74 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,930 there is so many authorities have to approve 75 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,250 because it's like one of the main oil company 76 00:04:34,280 --> 00:04:36,730 in the country and it has a lot of security. 77 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,410 What are they worried about so much? Well, apparently they haven't seen 78 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,650 lots of foreigners like you guys to visit. 79 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,690 Like, for them when I said a foreign crew is visiting... Yeah. 80 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,690 "Oh, my God." Like, "What the hell?" 81 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,570 MICHAEL CHUCKLES It's like... 82 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,770 We're dangerous. We're dangerous, Aman. 83 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,490 Despite of, like, the fact that you are British and you are... 84 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,410 You guys, you actually built this building... 85 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,090 Yes, of course, of course. ..er, a century ago. 86 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,450 Iraq is not often remembered as a British colony 87 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,650 but it was Britain that was responsible 88 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,290 for drawing its borders after the First World War. 89 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,650 To an extent, we created modern Iraq 90 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,970 and then ruled it until 1932. 91 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:24,090 And in 1927 it was the British who discovered oil 92 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,770 right here in Kirkuk and built these offices. 93 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:32,290 But after an hour of looking at them, I'm still none the wiser 94 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,850 as to whether we'll be allowed into the oil field. 95 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,850 Thank you, I'd like to announce my resignation 96 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,410 from television documentaries as from now. 97 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,730 I'm going to work for the Northern Oil Company - 98 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,570 there's a gap for me in the department of confusion 99 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,010 with a very, very small desk which is upside down 100 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,650 and three men bring me cups of tea every 17 minutes. 101 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,570 I bet when the British had this, 102 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,050 there'd be people scurrying around and they'd be saying... 103 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:03,490 A lot of shouting. 104 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,290 "Hey boy, boy, get my car." 105 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,170 Then, suddenly, there's a flurry of activity. 106 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,090 He just gave me good news - like, we are free of movement. 107 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,410 Fantastic, fantastic. Finally. 108 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:21,850 And finally our cars - and six more full of company officials - 109 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,570 make our way inside the oil fields of Baba Gurgur. 110 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,450 This is where oil was first discovered in Iraq 111 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,850 and the main reason the British knew it was here 112 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:39,010 was thanks to this small area of naturally burning gas. 113 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,330 It's known as the eternal flame. 114 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,690 TRANSLATION: 115 00:06:50,840 --> 00:06:53,650 Almost 4,000 years. That's incredible, isn't it? Wow! 116 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,770 This is quite a humble, modest site, 117 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,330 not a lot to look at, 118 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,370 and yet it's enormously significant 119 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,690 because the fire here has been burning for 4,000 years 120 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,770 and this is what indicated that oil was round here. 121 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,530 And you think all the implications of that - 122 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,890 the British taking over the Iraq oil industry, 123 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,890 the war in Iraq, 2003. 124 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:27,650 And over 90% of Iraq's economy is based on oil. 125 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:30,690 This is where it started. 126 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,890 Our friends from North Oil don't seem to be particularly chatty, 127 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:42,450 so I decided to chat to Amar about the impact oil has had on Iraq. 128 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,730 Do you think it's been a good thing for the country? 129 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,370 Well, unfortunately, the oil was never good for this country - 130 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,530 it was always the source of problems, 131 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,690 it was always the source of war. 132 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,690 Iraq for the last 40 years almost 133 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,850 has been going from one war to another, 134 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,090 from one sanction to another. 135 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,690 I mean, other countries like Dubai, Qatar, the Emirates 136 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:13,370 seem to have spent the oil money very, very sort of lavishly 137 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:14,850 for their country. 138 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,370 I mean, could it have been spent better here in Iraq? 139 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:22,130 Well, the answer is it was going to the pocket of corrupt 140 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,450 or used by the dictatorship, 141 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:25,930 you know, like during Saddam time. 142 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,130 Ancl we are very jealous of those people in the Gulf, 143 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:33,090 for example, like, being, using their fortune in a good way 144 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:37,050 in the time that Iraqi are... His fortune is waste. 145 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,770 Iraq's economy is still totally dependent on oil, 146 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,850 but with widespread corruption 147 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,450 and a society where more than half the working population 148 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,250 are employed by the government, 149 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,530 the oil money disappears quickly. 150 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,410 Downtown Kirkuk has limited charms. 151 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,810 But its Plaza Hotel gives me time to remind myself about one of 152 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,410 the evils Iraq has had to deal with. 153 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:19,970 Saddam Hussein, who ruled Iraq from 1979 to 2003, 154 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:24,410 is thought to have amassed a fortune of $10 billion dollars 155 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:25,970 from Iraq's oil. 156 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,690 He was also a brutal dictator, responsible for the deaths 157 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,410 of hundreds of thousands of his own people. 158 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,730 And tomorrow, I'm heading to his hometown, Tikrit, 159 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,890 one of the most fascinating but dangerous places in Iraq. 160 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:54,370 Planning a road trip across Iraq is unsurprisingly a tricky business. 161 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,290 We're packing up for the next part of our journey to Tikrit 162 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,010 and a lot of people - most people, actually - 163 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,010 would fly. This is quite a dangerous area. 164 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:07,530 And I just noticed today that, 165 00:10:07,560 --> 00:10:12,090 "Iraq begins anti-Daesh/lsis operation north of country." 166 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:13,810 So where this operation is taking place 167 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:19,010 is a place called Mahoul Mountain, er, which we'll be passing through. 168 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,610 And this is where the remnants of Isis and Daesh still are. 169 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:28,130 So it's a difficult, dangerous area, but hopefully we'll reach Tikrit. 170 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,170 The fact that there are still pockets 171 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,250 of the Islamic extremist group Isis around here 172 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:42,810 is a reminder that Iraq has been ripped apart by fighting since 2003. 173 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,490 The condition of the road - 174 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,850 there are heavy grooves where tanks have gone along. 175 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,490 And here we go - oop, wait for it. 176 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:52,850 Hey. Well... 177 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,450 On cue. 178 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,450 One of the most obvious signs of how militarised Iraq has become 179 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,770 are the security checkpoints on roads. 180 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,410 Passport, please. 181 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,410 Passport, yeah. There we go. 182 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:14,010 There are parts of life here when you just have to sit there... 183 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:15,530 Michael? ..and eat sweets. 184 00:11:15,560 --> 00:11:16,890 Oh, thank you. 185 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,690 They don't normally like cameras at checkpoints, 186 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,970 but Iraq can sometimes surprise you. 187 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,370 This is the first time we've been allowed to film, 188 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,730 erm, at a checkpoint. 189 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,210 Don't know quite why but there's a colonel here 190 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,050 and the colonel came up and he was very, very friendly. 191 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,770 And the guy checking our passports is smiling, 192 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,690 which is very, very rare at the checkpoints. 193 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,130 It's quite a fancy checkpoint, this, rather a fine work of design. 194 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,090 Mostly they're just basic sheds. 195 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,850 I'm slightly nervous about this freedom we've got to wonder about. 196 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,090 OFFICIALS SHOUT 197 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,250 Ah, no, close down. 198 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:17,450 OK. 199 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,610 Happily, our friendly colonel steps in 200 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,970 and filming is allowed to continue... 201 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,610 ...as long as we give them a photo. 202 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,690 OK, yeah, all right. Instagram. 203 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,210 I don't have an Instagram account, actually. 204 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,090 So, he has one. There we are, all in. 205 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,290 Yeah. Welcome to Samarra. 206 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,530 Thank you, thank you, thank you. 207 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:45,330 Very nice... 208 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,890 Very nice to be welcomed with a smile. 209 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,090 Appreciate that, thank you. 210 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,570 Welcome, welcome to Iraq, welcome to Tikrit and we... 211 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,090 So much to look forward to. 212 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:59,450 Much later than planned, we leave Checkpoint Cheerful. 213 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,890 Farewell, thank you. Thank you all. 214 00:13:04,680 --> 00:13:06,170 Well, that was amazing. 215 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,490 I mean, like, sort of... 216 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,730 ...peak of hospitality at that checkpoint. 217 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,690 Normally you just check through and off you go. 218 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,210 This time they said, er, we could film there, 219 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,570 so I feel, you know, rather boosted by that. 220 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,170 Mind you, it means the rest of the day will be a mad rush. 221 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,210 Soon we approach the outskirts of Tikrit, 222 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,930 which is probably best known as Saddam Hussein's hometown. 223 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,490 I think over there you can just see on the horizon, 224 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,490 rising up from the rest of the city, and another there, 225 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,170 the palaces that, er, Saddam Hussein built 226 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,410 not only for himself but for his, sort of, supporters. 227 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,010 Tikrit also reunites me with the river. 228 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,130 Looking out at the Tigris, which we haven't seen for a while. 229 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,250 Oh, those palaces are extraordinary. 230 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:12,730 Saddam Hussein built hundreds of massive palaces across Iraq 231 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,250 during his three decades of power, 232 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,210 and many of them are in Tikrit. 233 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:23,130 When the town was captured by the Sunni Islamic extremist group Isis 234 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:27,570 in June 2014, they took over many of the riverside palaces - 235 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,330 using them as military bases. 236 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,970 I've been given special permission to enter the palace complex 237 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,050 by the Shia paramilitary group that now controls it. 238 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,010 But they don't want to show me the palaces themselves - 239 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:46,010 instead I'm directed to a small building on the side of the river. 240 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,210 Once used to dock boats, 241 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:56,690 it became the site of a terrible act of terror against Shia Muslims. 242 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:04,170 This is the scene of one of the grimmest of all the events 243 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,890 in Iraq's recent grim history. 244 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,810 It's called the Speicher Massacre. 245 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:16,730 What happened here was that when Isis had taken over Tikrit in 2014, 246 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:21,330 er, they brought down here, erm, a party of cadets 247 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:25,050 from the Speicher base, originally American base, 248 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,850 and brought them here supposedly telling them it was a day off, 249 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:29,930 took their weapons. 250 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,290 Brought them down here to the side of the River Tigris... 251 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,810 ...got them to kneel down 252 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,890 and shot them all and pushed them into the river. 253 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:48,890 1,700 Shia cadets were killed here 254 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,610 and that's what all this is about for the... 255 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,810 Particularly for the Shias, but, you know, for anyone, 256 00:15:55,840 --> 00:16:00,050 this is the scene of a devastating and really horrific event 257 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,650 right by... right by the Tigris river, 258 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,930 flowing by, as it has done many thousands of years. 259 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:11,570 Can't have witnessed anything much worse than that. 260 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,730 They were all so young, little thing... 261 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,010 “YOUHQ boys 262 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:26,610 Here are the various photos of them. Relatives have laid them out. 263 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:33,530 Yeah. 264 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,690 It's just horrible. 265 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,090 And utterly callous. 266 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:50,010 This place has now be com a makeshift shrine to the dead cadets, 267 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:51,570 who were all Shia Muslims. 268 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,010 Shia and Sunni are the two main sects of Islam 269 00:16:56,040 --> 00:17:01,850 and Isis is an extremist Sunni group who see all Shias as heretics. 270 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:10,850 Here, where the Tigris runs through Tikrit, there could hardly be, erm, 271 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:15,890 two more telling examples of the futility of war. 272 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:20,570 Right here 1,700 young men massacred 273 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,130 and thrown into the river. 274 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:27,890 And across the way there, one of Saddam Hussein's many palaces - 275 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,890 now broken and destroyed. 276 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,090 What good did it do anyone? 277 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:37,690 You kn ow? 278 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,650 I'd been warned before I came to Iraq 279 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,850 that it wasn't going to be an easy journey. 280 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,450 And as I get deeper into the country, 281 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,770 I find my natural optimism taking a beating. 282 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,930 Terrible things have happened here. 283 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,530 You just can't escape it. 284 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,530 Thankfully, it's time to move on. 285 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,890 We're now, if you like, reunited with the Tigris. 286 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,930 We're running alongside the river... 287 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,450 ...and it's taking us to Samarra. 288 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,570 As we head further south alongside the river, we pass the ruins 289 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,090 of the 1,000-year-old Qasr al-'Ashiq palace. 290 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,970 It's a timely reminder that there's more to Iraq than conflict. 291 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,970 Thousands of years ago, the Tigris helped give birth 292 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,490 to some of the earliest human civilisations. 293 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,250 And that is the other side of Iraq's story. 294 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,410 And as we enter the historic town of Samarra, 295 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:53,370 one of the country's most famous monuments starts to emerge. 296 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,450 This is the great mosque of Samarra. 297 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,650 Built in the ninth century, 298 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,370 over 80,000 people can pray here at one time. 299 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:12,370 And at one end is its distinctive spiral minaret, 300 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,250 built 1,200 years ago. 301 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:23,250 The word "Samarra" translates as "a joy for all those that see it". 302 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:28,290 And seeing this brings me my first feeling of joy for quite a few days. 303 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,770 Right, here we go. This is the easy bit. 304 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,410 The minaret has 650 steps 305 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,250 and nothing to stop you falling off the side. 306 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,690 Whoops! Thank you. Shukran. 307 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,650 It's best for me to stay on the inside. 308 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:55,970 I'm not trying to scare myself 309 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,810 but most places would have the handrail there as well as here. 310 00:19:59,920 --> 00:20:02,370 But I suppose that's...part of it. 311 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,330 Wowee! 312 00:20:07,360 --> 00:20:10,850 That fantastic view of the old mosque. 313 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,810 Once the biggest mosque in the world, that. 314 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,130 Ooh! 315 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:18,410 Oh! 316 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,170 Best not to look right over the edge. 317 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:27,410 And... Oh, you meet people on the phone coming down. 318 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,410 Thank you. All right, you stay there, I'll go here. 319 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,850 I'm unsure of the etiquette. 320 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,730 Should people walk round me or should I walk round them? 321 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,330 It's quite a ways down now, isn't it? 322 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,810 Whole thing's about 52 metres. 323 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:51,770 I do think the steps seem to be getting shorter as we go. 324 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,290 Must be near the top. 325 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:56,810 Hello. Hello. 326 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,530 Which way, are you? 327 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,650 All right? Yeah, you fall off, not me. 328 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,090 Wow! The Tigris. 329 00:21:07,120 --> 00:21:09,490 Fantastic! 330 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,210 What a view. 331 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:14,810 The last bit. 332 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,650 Despite increasing levels of vertigo, 333 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:22,330 I manage to make it to the top - and the view is spectacular. 334 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:40,050 Iraq is often called the cradle of civilisation 335 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,330 and this was largely thanks to its rivers, 336 00:21:42,360 --> 00:21:44,570 which flooded and irrigated the land, 337 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:49,010 encouraging humans to settle on their banks over 10,000 years ago. 338 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:56,210 It's a little busier than I'd like but I'm pleased to be here. 339 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,530 Well, I've actually made it to the top here and, erm, 340 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,610 feel slightly unstable but... 341 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,810 ...there's absolutely no protection here at all. 342 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,210 But somehow this is a kind of friendly building. 343 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,850 Looking around and seeing the Tigris, 344 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,050 which feeds all the agriculture, 345 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,330 and it gives you a sense of the history of this place. 346 00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:21,090 I mean, on the journey so far I've really experienced some of 347 00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:24,370 the harsher realities of modern Iraq. 348 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,650 And it makes you think that its history's been very, very short 349 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,250 and very, very brutal. 350 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,450 In fact, it's been long and probably very brutal. 351 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:36,290 But it has been lived in by people for 10,000 years, some of it, 352 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,050 and this building itself makes you think how skilful they were, 353 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,290 how brilliant they were at putting buildings like this together 354 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,530 when Iraq was at the heart of the civilised world. 355 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:54,490 As dusk falls, I realise Iraq is a place that toys with your emotions. 356 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:58,410 Its recent history can plunge you into the depths of despair. 357 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,730 But if you look beyond it, then you can see there's something impressive 358 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,290 and inspiring about this country. 359 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,650 The next morning we continue our Journey 360 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,810 to the farming village of Dhuluiya, on the banks of the Tigris. 361 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,010 Throughout human history, the Tigris has been 362 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,610 a source of life in this part of the world, 363 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,730 particularly for agriculture. 364 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,610 But thanks to global warming, 365 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,210 the water levels of Iraq's rivers are falling each year. 366 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,490 But we have another issue to deal with. 367 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,330 This is what's making our progress through Iraq now quite difficult 368 00:23:56,360 --> 00:23:59,890 because, erm, the roadblocks are everywhere - 369 00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:02,290 even in the countryside here. 370 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,970 And you come to a roadblock and you're never sure, 371 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,490 erm, how long they're going to keep you. 372 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,370 You have to give your passport, 373 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,930 there's a great deal of debate and talking. 374 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,770 It's kind of frustrating. 375 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,050 Eventually we're allowed through. 376 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,210 And as we start to pass fields, 377 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,850 it becomes clear just how dry the land has become. 378 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:33,130 I'm meeting a local farmer, Has him, who wants to show me his river, 379 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,730 a tributary of the Tigris that once supplied his crops with water. 380 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,250 So, that river is very important to you. 381 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,610 How much of your water comes from the river? 382 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,890 Before, er, 383 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:51,410 the water covered all of this area. 384 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,210 It was five metres. Five metres, OK, yes. It's just a trickle right now. 385 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,970 Yeah. Now, since last three seasons... 386 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,610 ...there's no rain - little rain. 387 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,690 The water means the life, you know. Yeah. 388 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,810 So water's more important to Iraq than oil? 389 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,530 Of course. Of course. 390 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,730 We put in our pockets nothing from oil. 391 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,130 No. Yeah. No, no. 392 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,130 While talking to Has him, I realise that our armed friends 393 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,330 from the checkpoint have arrived. 394 00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:28,250 Unknown to us, Isis have been active in the area. 395 00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:32,570 The militias here - are they still operating? 396 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:33,930 Yes. Really? 397 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,290 Er, some clays ago they saw them during the night 398 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,250 moving there, just there. 399 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,850 Ancl they attacked the checkpoint there... OK. ..some clays ago, yeah. 400 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,850 So they are around here. And does that frighten you or...? 401 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,410 Yeah, yes, you know, we use the... 402 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:55,610 We use our land for agriculture but we feel dangerous every time. 403 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,890 Looking around this arid landscape, 404 00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:04,210 I suspect Has him is more worried about a lack of rain than Isis. 405 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,610 Nothing is growing here. These fields should be green, 406 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:11,970 full of crops, 407 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,050 but for acres and acres there is nothing. 408 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:23,250 The Iraq government has warned that 90% of agricultural land 409 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:24,810 could soon become desert. 410 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,930 Despite the lack of crops, 411 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,090 Has him kindly invites us back to his house in the village for lunch. 412 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,450 This is... This is fantastic - what a spread. 413 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,970 This is all, er, home-made. Yep. 414 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,890 Yeah, er, this is, er, chicken, you know. 415 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:51,450 Yeah, never seen chicken quite like that. That's beautifully done. 416 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:52,690 Oh, thank you. 417 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,930 It's very much a family affair 418 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,530 but there's a notable absence of any women. 419 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,530 And who makes... Who makes the food? Do you all make a bit? 420 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,170 My mum and my wife. 421 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,450 Oh, right. They've been working away behind the scenes? 422 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,690 Yeah. 423 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,370 We must thank them. 424 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,930 We must thank them if we can, cos it's wonderful. 425 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,410 Are we... Is it possible to say thank you to them? 426 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,090 Yeah, no problem. 427 00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:20,370 Mm, mm. 428 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,330 At home probably we would, erm... 429 00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:25,690 My wife would probably be at the meal too. Yeah, yeah. 430 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,010 So that's a difference here, isn't it? Yeah. 431 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,250 After the meal comes the ubiquitous sweet tea - 432 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,930 a favourite of Amar, our fixer. 433 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,170 Cheers, bottoms up. 434 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,130 I can't imagine like people drinking tea without sugar, man. 435 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,450 I have seen lots of friends are doing it but it's, like, nonsense. 436 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,930 You see, we have lots of health problems 437 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,090 and sugar is supposed to be not good for you. 438 00:27:51,120 --> 00:27:53,570 Are your teeth all right? They're all there. 439 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,370 Not necessarily in the right order! LAUGHTER 440 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,730 I have... This row - it's all... 441 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,570 It's in the wrong way, you see? Oh, it is. but I never fix them. 442 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:09,130 But none of my... all girls I dated have ever said, 443 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,130 like, "Your teeth is wrong, 444 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,930 "something is wrong with your teeth," so it's fine for me. 445 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,530 They're too polite, probably. They're too polite. 446 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,850 THEY CHUCKLE 447 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,930 As our jovial lunch goes on, 448 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,370 concerns about the lack of rain seem to fade into the background. 449 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,530 Hashim's problems don't seem to weigh him down 450 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:37,050 but this is Iraq, where resilience is part of the national character. 451 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,770 As dusk falls, we leave Dhluiya behind 452 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,650 and head south towards the capital. 453 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,850 This is the halfway point on my journey across Iraq 454 00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:01,330 and I feel a distinct sense of wonder as we finally enter Baghdad. 455 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,810 After a few days on the road, 456 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,530 it looks like a glittering metropolis. 457 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,450 Wow! That is amazing. 458 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,690 Looks like several palaces and a mosque rolled into one. 459 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,010 It's actually the railway station. Dazzling! 460 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,850 And for me, there's something 461 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,050 particularly special about being here. 462 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,690 Well, we've followed the Tigris river all the way to Baghdad. 463 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,210 Here we are crossing it. 464 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,610 It's rather amazing, cos the first book I was ever given 465 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,850 in my life was from my father at the age of seven 466 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,010 and it was Tales From The Arabian Nights. 467 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,010 And from that time onwards, 468 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:51,290 Baghdad has always had this sort of magical, mysterious, exotic quality. 469 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,490 Yet here I am, for the first time in my life, 470 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,290 at the age of 78, in Baghdad. 471 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,530 And my hotel leaves me in no doubt of where we've arrived. 472 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,210 The next morning, I wake up in the capital city of Iraq. 473 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,650 Well, we're getting one of these little ferry boats across the Tigris 474 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,050 to the old city there. 475 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,290 Quite enjoying being by the Tigris on a lovely day 476 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,650 and...about to go on her jade-green waters. 477 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,890 Thank you. Shukran. 478 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,370 Hello. Hello there. 479 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,130 This is why I like travelling. 480 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,130 We're on the Tigris, going through Baghdad. 481 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,610 Baghdad dates back over a thousand years, 482 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,770 the Tigris making it an ideal centre for trade and travel. 483 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,850 Now one of the biggest cities in the Middle East, 484 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,650 it has a population of more than eight million. 485 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:12,810 It's the weekend, 486 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,210 and even though it's only 10am things look busy. 487 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,130 OK, very good. I love you. 488 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,090 You love me, do you? Well, I love you too. 489 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,450 This does me a lot of good at my age, you know. 490 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,290 THEY SING 491 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,690 This is Mutanabbi Street, 492 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,170 named after a famous tenth-century Iraqi poet. 493 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,570 For a thousand years, this area has drawn in poets, 494 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,450 artists and intellectuals. 495 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,810 This is how to clean shoes. I love that. 496 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,890 Look at that...technique. 497 00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:58,970 There we are. 498 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,090 Today, it feels like half the population of the city 499 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,410 are crammed into this small area. 500 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,890 But after Kirkuk and Tikrit, 501 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,090 the buzz of downtown Baghdad is something of a revelation. 502 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,090 Next to Mutanabbi Street is the Qishla building, 503 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,410 built by the Ottomans as a garrison in 1861. 504 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,050 Today it's a cultural centre 505 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:35,610 and on Fridays, its grounds are open to the public. 506 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,810 And, once again, it's all about poetry. 507 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:40,930 TRANSLATION: 508 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,490 You can tell they're poets - 509 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,370 somehow the man with the beret and the glasses 510 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,170 and the beard could only be a poet. 511 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,650 He's almost like a 20th-century poet. 512 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,850 It's a sort of poetry slam really. 513 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,810 They're poets all fighting with each other to get the audience going. 514 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,890 And erm, a lot of humour. You can tell there's lots of smiles in it. 515 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,610 So I think it's Iraqi satire I think they're doing here. 516 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,610 CROWD CHEER 517 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,410 I'm heartened by this place, 518 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,650 After a week in Iraq, 519 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,050 it can sometimes feel like the problems are insurmountable. 520 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,890 But on a sunny weekend in Baghdad, 521 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,890 all of that just seems to fade into the background. 522 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:38,250 And then, by chance, I bump into Hassan...from Wimbledon. 523 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,090 I'm from London. Oh, are you really? Are you here, what, for...? 524 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,290 Erm, I'm vising my family. This is my cousin. Erm, we're... 525 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,610 How do you do? I'm here for the first time since, erm... 526 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,730 Since leaving in 2000 and. You were born here? 527 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,930 I was born in Iraq, yeah. You're born in Iraq. Yeah. 528 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,650 So what do you think now? 529 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,410 What do you think now, how do you feel? 530 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:58,850 Honestly? Yeah. 531 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,130 It's overwhelming to hear the stories, the conflict - 532 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,810 before Saddam, after Saddam, everything, you know... 533 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,290 Yeah, in between. What the country went through. Yeah. 534 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:13,330 The Iraqi people stay strong and one thing about us is we stay, we live. 535 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,370 No matter what happens, we continue with our clay 536 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,250 and that's one thing that Iraq prides itself on. 537 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,970 Much as I find myself enjoying the old city, 538 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,170 it's hard not to notice, once again, 539 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,010 how few women you see out and about in Iraq. 540 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,490 And it's something of a relief when we find someone who's happy 541 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,050 not only to dine with me in public, but also be filmed. 542 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,130 This is a very ancient way to cook the fish here in Iraq, 543 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,850 especially in the southern region, erm... 544 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:53,490 Sarah Eunice is studying at the Baghdad university of technology 545 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:58,130 and has invited me to try Iraq's national dish, masgouf. 546 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,690 They cook it vertically, not horizontally like that. 547 00:35:01,720 --> 00:35:05,050 As you see, it's hanged like this. 548 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,450 Masgouf is basically carp, 549 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,370 a river fish that was once abundant in the Tigris 550 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,330 and has been eaten on its shores for thousands of years. 551 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,650 Like many places in Iraq, 552 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,530 our restaurant is divided into two parts - 553 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,170 the main dining hall is for men only, 554 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,730 while the family area outside 555 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,330 is where women and children are allowed to eat. 556 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,490 Actually, Iraqis, they prefer, as I told you, 557 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:39,090 to eat fish with the whole family, so it's a gathering meal. 558 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,970 So it's quite unusual to have... Yeah. ..just two people eating it? 559 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,490 Just two people eating it. 560 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,410 Only if they are falling in love and his wife, she is loving to him. 561 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,210 Really? Well... Yeah, I mean... 562 00:35:49,240 --> 00:35:50,730 He wants to please her. 563 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,050 We can't exactly do that but anyway we'll pretend. 564 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,330 Anyway... We'll pretend we're falling in love. 565 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,370 Yeah. So, actually, erm, for Iraqis they eat, 566 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,250 as I told you, the fish with red rice. I'm gonna use my hand. 567 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,170 Yeah, OK. We should use our hands, shouldn't we? 568 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,410 Look at that fat. Yeah. 569 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,610 There's one. What's that? Is that... There's one here. 570 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,010 It's a bit hot. 571 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:17,690 Though born in Iraq, Sarah spent much of her childhood in Malaysia, 572 00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:22,770 exposing her to slightly more gender equality than you see around here. 573 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,610 So, what do you think of modern Iraq now? 574 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,810 I mean, this is... This is lovely food and all that 575 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:33,250 but we have to eat out here because you're a woman and I'm a man 576 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,890 and we can't eat in there, which is men only. Yeah, mm-hm. 577 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,890 What do you think about that? Yeah, these kind of rules 578 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,530 and regulations, they've put back culturally. 579 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,490 Yeah. But actually I am respecting their rules and regulations 580 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,490 but I'm trying to change it. Mm. 581 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,650 Erm, I'm very patient with it because I'm... 582 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,850 I know that changing takes period of time. 583 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:58,050 But what I'm trying with other people is to change 584 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,690 the mind-set of older generations. 585 00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:04,490 Because these kind of generations, they got raised like this. 586 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,810 It's not their problem, it's their... Yeah. 587 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,530 The way they're raised. How do you... 588 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,850 How would you meet a young man or something like that? 589 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,650 Because I was told really only couples who are engaged 590 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,370 to each other can go out together. 591 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,890 Yeah, that's true. Actually, for me and my family we go out, 592 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,730 they allowed me here to go out with the groups of females and males, 593 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,970 then I'm allowed in this case. 594 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,890 But in other cases, it's only to be specific. 595 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:34,290 For example, now I cannot go out with a guy by his car 596 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,490 and drive me home. No, it's not appropriate. 597 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,770 Can't be done? Yeah, yeah. Cannot be clone. 598 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,490 But if it was, like, Uber then I'm allowed, 599 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,770 because I'm sitting in the backside, not in the... Oh, I see. 600 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,370 ...in the front seat. 601 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,170 Are people... Are Iraqis still proud of their country? 602 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,650 Yeah, they are. I would say I'm one of them. 603 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,490 I'm very proud that I'm Iraqi, Yeah. 604 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,690 Like, everywhere I go I'm proud that I speak Arabic, 605 00:37:56,720 --> 00:37:59,690 I'm proud that I'm wearing my veil. 606 00:37:59,720 --> 00:38:02,250 Yeah, it's my identity. Yeah. 607 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,450 You cannot choose your identity 608 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,210 but you can choose if you want to love it or not. 609 00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:12,250 It's been a long but enlightening day on the streets of Baghdad. 610 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,690 Tomorrow could be very different. 611 00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:18,650 I've been given permission to enter the infamous green zone, 612 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,730 the most militarised part of the city. 613 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,090 For many of us, our lasting image of Baghdad 614 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,850 was created almost 20 years ago. 615 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,170 TONY BLAIR: On Tuesday night, I gave the order for British forces 616 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,210 to take part in military action in Iraq. 617 00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:49,650 Tonight, British servicemen and women 618 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,650 are engaged from air, land and sea. 619 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,410 One of the iconic moments of the Iraq war 620 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,850 was when a statue of Saddam Hussein was toppled in Firdos Square. 621 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,050 And this is that same square today. 622 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,210 This is Firdos Square 623 00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:19,050 and here behind me on April the 9th 2003, 624 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:23,010 perhaps the most famous statue toppling in history, 625 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,610 Saddam Hussein's statue was pulled down, 626 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,210 hit with slippers. 627 00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:34,250 Total jubilation as they brought Saddam Hussein's reign to an end - 628 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,010 the great symbolic moment was here. 629 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,610 And I think for many people this was where, you know... 630 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,130 The last thing we remember about Iraq, the end of the war. 631 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,210 And you look around now at Baghdad 632 00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:49,570 and you can see ads for mobile phones, 633 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,810 and mobile phones were, I think, prohibited by Saddam Hussein. 634 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:57,210 The just general feeling that everything has moved on. 635 00:39:57,240 --> 00:40:00,730 Firdos Square is now, erm, a very different... A very different place. 636 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,530 However, there's one lasting reminder of the Iraq war in Baghdad 637 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,330 that's hard to ignore. 638 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,730 Surrounded by a concrete wall and high security, 639 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,770 the green zone is a city within a city. 640 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,290 It's been hard to get permission to enter this bubble of politicians 641 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,650 and international diplomats. 642 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,730 And I've been warned that security is tight. 643 00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:30,170 But then as we approach the security checkpoint... 644 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,250 ...we're waved through without being stopped for the first time in weeks. 645 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,250 So maybe Iraq is starting to put its guard down. 646 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,050 This is where all the embassies are, 647 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,770 the last perimeter walls, 648 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,010 which apparently used to be all over Baghdad. 649 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,210 Before it was sealed off from the city, 650 00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:57,690 this area was the centre of power under Saddam Hussein. 651 00:40:57,720 --> 00:41:01,850 And I'm here to see what is probably the most famous icon of that time. 652 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,170 Built in the 1980s, it's known as the victory arch. 653 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,770 40 metres high, 654 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,290 the swords were cast from the weapons of fallen soldiers 655 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,450 in the Iran-Iraq war. 656 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,410 There's really no more obvious example 657 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:35,410 of Saddam Hussein's massive ego than this victory arch, 658 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,290 erm, here in the green zone. 659 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,530 And it is on a megalomanic scale. 660 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,450 You can see the hands there holding the swords. 661 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,530 And apparently this thumb up here 662 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,610 was based actually on Saddam's own thumbprint. 663 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,370 I think you look at it and, all right, it's about Saddam's ego 664 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,210 and we've seen examples of that all over the country - 665 00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:09,250 buildings, huge buildings either neglected or destroyed. 666 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,210 But, I mean, apart from anything else, 667 00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:15,010 just what he took out of this country to build this 668 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,930 and the parade ground here... 669 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,330 ...which he used to go through on a horse, 670 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:22,690 waving grandly, 671 00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:26,570 and then there's a pavilion up there where he used to review the troops 672 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,490 while firing his rifle in the air. 673 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:34,050 So this is, er... Yeah, it's all about megalomania. 674 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,610 And it didn't work out too well for him in the end. 675 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,250 Amar remembers what life was like under Saddam Hussein 676 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,090 and during the Iraq war. 677 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:53,250 What did you think at the time of the allied invasion? 678 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,690 Well, honestly, I was very happy 679 00:42:56,720 --> 00:43:00,010 because I lived 13 years during sanctions, but... 680 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,250 So, yeah, I mean... 681 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,450 So, despite the fact that bombs and rockets were hitting, 682 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:10,130 er, Baghdad in 2003, you felt this was better than nothing happening? 683 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:14,210 I was very overwhelmed and very happy to see the US army 684 00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:17,650 in my town. I chanted, "Long life, Bush." 685 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,570 Right. I regretted later, 686 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:23,290 but at that moment if you asked me how I felt 687 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:27,330 I can tell you, I was so happy. Because it was end of the sanctions, 688 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,370 end of the Saddam era 689 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:35,650 and, like, we were so optimistic for a new life, new future. 690 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,970 So, what was your attitude to the anti-war protests in London 691 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,330 and the rest of Europe and all around the world? 692 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,370 To be honest, I was... I was against this protest. Were you? 693 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,410 Ancl I was not happy to see these people protesting against the war. 694 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,930 Regime was not easy. The regime was very tough and, 695 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,970 er, brutal against the people. 696 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,330 Sadly, things did not improve after the war. 697 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:06,570 Instead of peace and prosperity came insurgency and violence. 698 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,690 CHANTING 699 00:44:11,720 --> 00:44:13,650 But my time in Baghdad 700 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,330 makes me think that things are finally turning a corner. 701 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,570 So as I enter my final week in Iraq, 702 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,090 I hope to get a sense of where the future lies 703 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,730 for the people of this beguiling country. 704 00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:30,170 Next time... 705 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,330 As-salaam alaykum. Good morning. 706 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:33,930 ...| go back to school. 707 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,210 When you think of Iraq, they know the famous places 708 00:44:37,240 --> 00:44:39,130 but they don't know what Iraq is. 709 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:40,730 HORN HONKS 710 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,690 ...catch the Basra Express... 711 00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:45,730 Oh! Breathtaking. 712 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,250 ...visit treasured sites old and new... 713 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,650 Saddam certainly knew what he was doing when he wanted a nice view. 714 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,210 ...and the Tigris and I... 715 00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:55,410 Whoa! 716 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,690 ...reach our final destination. 717 00:44:57,720 --> 00:45:00,810 This is it, this is the end of Iraq. 718 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,050 Subtitles by Red Bee Media 59801

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