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it now gives me a great deal of pleasure
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to introduce the panel and of course
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his holiness the dalai llama
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so good morning everyone and we have
them wonderful
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creative challenge that is to
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have to pander to 10 in one hour that
mean
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head on the Tampa right that lined up
and then we left half and half the speed
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of light
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from compact so
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we have to be very creative that's for
sure funar
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up and it is about creativity and we'll
hear various
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aspect of creativity. and see them
believing
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Tibetan language days they were that the
first two
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creativity that comes out of
investigation
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a in bed into once mine creative
thinking
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but def so many other aspect of
creativity in science in hot
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meditation in neurosciences education
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that the Raps is honest would like to
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I ask our but leaks to expressed a few
aspect
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the Western aspect of creativity. before
calling upon you
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so we have a wonderful array of
participants
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professor move again man at received
another price of physics
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in 1969 he works now at the Center for
Institute
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hand is emeritus professor at the
prestigious Cannes Dec
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California Institute of Technology and
he is among many other things the one
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with discovered
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the squawk ansel then
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advance ego
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is a tad this and then what winning
educator
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director of the mine site Institute and
his forthcoming book
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is about mine site how to develop inside
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and compassion pick up Tony
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as you know in the form presentations
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the cesspit a teacher out of the
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wonderful book of power Knoll now I'm in
you
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and is quite remarkable that such an
individualistic society
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millions of people have attempted not to
identify
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that legal thanks to him
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and the room and
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two of them here house for their fuel
red and gray man and all
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I think yes thing
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a good deal of her what they were and
what they represent I don't need to
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introduce them in detail
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except that they have been performing to
art I
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the state's and but specially
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davno involved in education toda
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room and creativity centre and early
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childhood program in the yard
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self can Robinson is a worldwide leading
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educator and development of creativity
innovation
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he works with various governments and is
professor of education at while week
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in UK so he's acting far
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and then is gonna miss the committee
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so it is we have to travel at the speed
of light i think is
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proper to begin with day number five for
physics
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and it is possible that process again my
nice
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also speak this is just a few hours
about rugby by the way
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it's up to you though the great
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museum curator wanted to the Laker want
it does also
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busy as the rugby player and he compared
a
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a modern art to the invention that the
game
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rugby which happened one day in the
early in the nineteenth century
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where the Rugby School a soccer player
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picked up the ball and ran with it with
the five
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disregard for the rules thereby
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founding the new game rugby and he
pointed out that in modern art
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you don't play by the rules you play
with the rules and %uh that
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effective for creativity %uh often that
happens
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that a well but safer that and
theoretical science which is
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can thing I've done mostly by Lloyd a
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most to the challenges the scientific
orthodoxy are not right and many in the
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mcrae
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but every once in awhile scientific
orthodoxy is wrong a thumbs up
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they wanted to challenge and
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a the
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conventions in such a case a that you
must
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think the following way: it's bad if you
think that way your papers will be
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published you will get the job done so
on and so forth
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the only problem is that in the cases
i'm talking about. thinking that way is
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actually right
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though you have to go up against that
prohibition
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and how do you get the idea what to
challenge
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well it the bubbles up
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from some hidden part of the human mind
sometimes
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other you its there's several stages to
it as everybody agrees in science and in
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our
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and in other fields as well you have a
problem you have with them contradiction
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between what's available and what you
need
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and a you ponder that contradiction and
try to get out amid
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and after a while country for the
conscious thought doesn't do any good
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but somewhere out of sight in some
deeper part that the human mind this
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process
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the search continues and one day
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well cooking or che being or running
more
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sometimes by as the butter the correct
answer may come to you
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that happened to me once with the turn I
was giving a lecture on way some idea
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would work
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and I made a mistake the turn
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I had something that didn't work though
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it is that same deeper by the human mind
is
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presumably involved in the search for
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how to educate the heart a the
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search for
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forgiveness a compassion
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a is a
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something that surely in the involved at
least occasionally
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these apart for the human mind that is
somewhat outside
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conscious awareness so there's possibly
related
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between creative thinking in art and
science in another field on the one hand
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and the search for compassion
forgiveness
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and so on and the other so
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you spoke of compassion and education
does other
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to Center team of are getting so
compassion
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we need to be creative even
revolutionary about compassion if we
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king of the challenges of the modern
times
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the short term but the economy the
middle term of the quality of life
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and the long-term the environment does
that seemingly incompatible
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except if you have to tread of altruism
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of consideration for others that prevent
you from cheating other
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in economy that will make you consider
the quality of life
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of those you work with and that we read
a good to consider the future generation
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saw your work as a psychology for the
Terrapins
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hardy you bring compassion and others
life
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and also in education thank you
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I'm first both an honor to be here with
I love my esteemed
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yes in the love you and with your
holiness I'm
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what I'd like to do trade creatively as
I'm recovering from laryngitis
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so I'm very aware
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my internal up imposed to call
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so I will say very slowly named
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on my mind but it very much relates to
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p up what you're asking met you about um
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by the way the doctor told then don't
speak the whole week
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yes because I said right you know so
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here's what I'd like to just presented
as take on Fox about that
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that compassion and creativity
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are healthy for the brain and that
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in education we have focused
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on the basic skills in reading riding
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enrichment which set up a pattern
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for the brain to learn things in a very
fixed way
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and we give those skills in modern
education in
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most schools maybe not the blue school
but in
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in most schools now
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when I'd like to propose is that they're
worth three other basic arms
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%uh reflection where we look inward
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and realize that with out an active
effort to train them on
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then the brain is it gets past seven or
eight years a page
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begins to get fixed in its way of seeing
things
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as eckhart has taught us with the power
now it starts to believe that the
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thoughts
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are the identity of the person and as
that happens the brain is a natural
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tendency to imprison us
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in this false believed
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that our thoughts or feelings are that
whole amor identity
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and in many ways creativity is
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imprisoned as well because one way
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of
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one-way at the last time I spoke with
his holiness we're told
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when the translator begins to speak you
stop and the clock keeps on turning
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mmm the way it is not fair to give you
can't follow
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the next thing you're saying ok
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so anyway so the the idea here is that
creativity
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emerges from novelty and it is exactly
as doctor Gelman was saying
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I'm it was scientific orthodoxy that the
brain didn't change after childhood
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but now we know that certain factors
beyond just
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exercise I help us keep on growing our
brains and that includes novelty
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so we realize that creativity is really
a part
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%uh creating novelty for the brain it's
about keeping the brain growing not just
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in childhood
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but throughout the life span so
reflection allows you to go inward to
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get beyond
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the fixed ways of thinking it's the
first thing but then I want to talk
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about relationships because this is the
first moment
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I've been able to actually address his
holiness directly since
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in a prologue last year you ask us a
question we run a panel together
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see the compassionately and you
challenge
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assess for scientists Richie Davidson
was one of them and emailed saw police
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lieberman myself
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you challenged us in a very
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provocative way saying the head you in
religion
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have not been so effective with it was
theistic religion
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or non theistic religion to make the
world a kinder and more compassionate
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place
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and you suggested that in sin
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we should look for a secular ethics that
could promote compassion
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so ever since we had that communication
have not stopped thinking about that
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and its challenge my fixed ways of
thinking as a scientist and as a
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position
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in this address is your question met you
to now give you a response
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and the question for you your holiness
one thing then emerged with the idea
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that if we start see
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compassion and creativity
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as forms a brain health or brain hygiene
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then perhaps we can introduce to
education
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and then make it a standard practice in
all societies a practice a brush in your
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brain
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every day just like we brush our teeth
so that we would have a formal
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for example everyone knows you brush
your teeth every day
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not once a month not once a year but if
we had a former mine training
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that was about reflection it would
promote
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compassion circuits in the brain it
would liberate creativity
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it would keep the brain young and in
many ways
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it would develop another ours we have
reflection in relationships like the one
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I started with you when you encourage us
to think about that
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you have resilience so in all these ways
we can promote creativity compassion the
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world they go hand in hand
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I'm by promoting kinda training that
allows us to look inward
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and liberates us from the way the brain
falsely creates identity
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and keeps us seeing things through very
narrow lenses
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will begin open them why and feel the
freedom
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love seeing life is it really is and
connecting with others in a deep
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compassionate and kind way
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so you're reading this you often
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expressed views about what will be
required
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in modern education to really bring
start
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good human beings so good you share your
thoughts with us
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bud his education is one of the main
topic of our
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get re unique redo search in
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to worry
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it seems to me d
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creativity debt i think im
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really did more
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intelligence although i Tim
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a other special other species to Mama's
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also to some G
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certain to people creativity
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for but compared with human being
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much much less why interest citing
management
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creativity something secretive Newton
Newton you would
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so does I think mainly did
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intelligence compassion
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manhood I don't know
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to Tibetan word Dubey
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its qualities
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need hearty expressed morning
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wish 10 mmm den creativity
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her the
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we have a city but nature
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because what did brain in the pretension
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of creativity is down but then
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I think for creativity
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i'd think its decision walk
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%uh so sometimes to the life
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the easy no problem
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then maybe creativity also
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me women sleep contrast
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I'll prison yes not ma challenge
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more to good use then is our
intelligence
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become much more Cooper active the
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and also I Tim
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so I think the factor to tool
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to bring creativity one
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check another
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experience past experience denmark also
I did and it doesn't affect a
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for creativity maybe hundred-degree
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if there is no contradictions and
creativity may not develop
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soak up to cripple force
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external better all mentor met
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meant 11 dour country if you look if you
remain just like that
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100 Attash shot then
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to DPDT response
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cadet then tried troops in this house
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districts so that maybe I don't know
mine my knowledge with limited
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I don't with that's compassion
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are compression as I mentioned earlier
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as a riche morning express
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recent but
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the real issue creativity I think
differently
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not that it in day
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that means I feed compassion
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a or denmark also like to
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creativity dell also can be a
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one produced a gritty one
unrealistically 22 also to
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uniting most cases I
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unrealistic for King is usually
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study really sticky
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maybe generally speaking
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more possible Boston means
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in dissent her anything as you want
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even use it want to harm other
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the matter should be gts-t den more
effective
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so the whole the city in order to
develop
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released little to approach
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the leash have to
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no ya truthfully in order to
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no yonder to fully objecting at 22 he
said
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vintage whatever reason
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our mind important yeah a passion
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works compassion
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open on mind and then
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of my mental state remain calm
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and with dad from interstate
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you can't see did reality
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more too much emotion a new constitution
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so dat mean maybe some connection but
otherwise these two things on
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creativity mainly due to a deep
divisions and
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compassion
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managed to all to on pot I think to
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separate I don't know I
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so if I
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constructing creativity
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has to be at June to reality that means
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the minor for should stop distorting
reality
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we should bridge the gap between the
waiting said Kia
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and the way things are that means anyway
in mind as to remain
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in its natural state and shot of to
upstage
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citing ECA maybe you could tell us if
you think of how
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creativity would arise from in mind that
is not
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completely distorted by meant that
construction
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we started of by the talking about the
genesis of
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rugby and
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when I'm heard something just
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came to mind a news item that I listened
to
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few days ago on my and His Holiness his
favorite news channel on which is to BBC
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world news that I listened to every day
anti
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dirty fuels listen to that there was a
news item
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on the BBC the BART
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soccer football soccer
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person there and for researchers had
looked
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at phenomenon in soccer that is called
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i'm relieved the penalty shootout
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so I haven't watched a soccer game in
about 20 years so I only have a vague
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recollection of what that means
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its often the decisive moment in the
game
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when one player is selected to
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third tried to cake this
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Bollinger the goal a must be better
expressions for it
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just call and decision on almost
pressure at that moment on this player
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everything depends on age to his whole
nation sometimes is watching
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and so it's of incredible importance
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not on a costly scale but on the
relatives hand
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and soul the
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lay X researchers examined what happens
when the referee
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whistles and then that is the signal for
the player to showed
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and those players who do not cause
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who immediately showed after they hear
the whistle
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army much less likely to score then
those players who
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when the whistle goals they don't
immediately juditha
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3 45 seconds even more when they
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become stable and then
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it happens and the likelihood of scoring
is
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infinitely greater then those players
who do not stop
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at all this one you you ask for an
explanation
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more people will give some kind of
mental bobble explanations they want
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they concentrate that gives in a moment
of contemplation
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but what does that mean when we say they
concentrate for a moment
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what the question i'd like to ask is
what happens
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in that moment of
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going within
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so the end the attention which is
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usually would be on the desired outcome
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and the pressure the attention on the
sale from me
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I have to perform that the attention is
taken away from all that
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and the the there's a redirecting
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of attention into the depths
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and sold it at that moment I believe
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because I'm to million with that process
bit gassed believe it is the bases of
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the creative process
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added it in football and soccer it is
the rudimentary
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expression of the creative process
redirecting
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of attention within way you touch
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deeper layer deeper level of him being
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and that is the well all power resides
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and when you touch that power at that
moment
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the whole whole conceptual things in
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including the concept of me conceptual
self
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goals this simply a deep
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intensely alive still miss and also
alleged illness comes the
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power and that power is not my Apollo
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know your power it just universal power
and that power
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then can either become a masterful cake
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of the ball or it can flow into
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other channels added it can become
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be belong into foam it could be a mental
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I believe that also scientist after
they've done a lot of thinking
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as you mentioned there's a moment of
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cessation of thinking and of in that
moment
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of stillness and stillness is not just
the absence of thinking there is a power
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in the stillness
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the is non conceptual intelligence
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in the stillness intelligence when we
measure intelligence with
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IQ test all we measure is conceptual
intelligence
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but they is a Boxster much faster
intelligence in every human being
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it is non conceptual not words and
concepts
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week it you can't analyze it but
everybody has that
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within potentially and I believe that is
the souls of creativity
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now this does not mean that when I A
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and ass to kick this fall
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& score goal that's I go deeply within
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and it's going to happen now why doesn't
it happen
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I've I've on deeply with a and I've
contacted the saucer column
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and it's not working porn
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or if they asked me to come up with the
great theory of Physics
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okay I'm going to become stale and then
perhaps
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theory of relativity or something all
the unified field theory
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all the on such a everything is going to
come to me it's not because I don't know
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anything about physics
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do
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soul it can on a car there must be a
vehicle
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that is ready for for the power to flow
into
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the vehicle could be the the human mind
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there must be something that
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is has already been prepared for that in
the world of all
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soul and this is my son researchers have
found
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I read it recently in a book called out
Elias that
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in to to achieve proficiency and become
muster
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call it something one prerequisite
here's
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is they called it 10,000 also practice
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okay edsall ten thousand dollars
practice
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then the possibility arises that the
vehicle is ready
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to be research the receptive the power
of creativity
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education I
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the Wii Shop or Paris is that education
we had then
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provide for their children to become
good human beings
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to have confidence in life and
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to have happiness flat it seems and
education does almost everything except
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that
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boosting intelligence an adventure
information so how do you solve that
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in fact minutes
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I'm trying to shake off this image
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all eckhart on the football pitch
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and I really rather I think it off but
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and the referee blows the whistle
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an act of like 10,000 hours
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and he still misses today
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what he say
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and I want to just pick up on something
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the Dalai Lama said and actually that's
something I've always wanted to say
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that
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which is this power
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Paul creativity is unique to human
beings
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that the prior power which is the parent
imagination
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which is what many were where this comes
from which is the ability to bring to
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mind things around present
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on mean if you take
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a small child into the garden if you
have one
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and point at the moon
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the child will look at the moon if you
take a
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a dog into the garden and point to the
moon
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the don't we look at your finger and
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that
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and wonder what your problem is exactly
with
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no we all belong
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with the capacity to project ourselves
into other places
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to imagine forwards and backwards
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to conceivable pass to conceive a future
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and not just long future but many
features not just one pass but many pass
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eckhardt work is about telling in the
present but it's not only about that
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it's recognizing the real power comes
from
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recognized there is only this present
moment problem
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i think is that that power has to be
cultivated
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creativity is a step mom that
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cuz you can be matched it all day long
and never do anything to be crated you
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have to do something
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and it's a very practical process it's
putting your imagination to work
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its so to speak applied imagination and
it depends on skills it depends on
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training it depends on confidence and it
depends on knowing things she said
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and of me and in education
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I think a mistake is made in believing
that you just have to
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allow people to be creative at you have
to help people
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to be creative have to teach them it's
like saying we hope you'll all be
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literate
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and good luck with that you know they
hear the case the library your callers
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you know you need to be helped and
facilitated that with all processes
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you need teaching and mentoring for it
happen and this is why I believe we have
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two big problem right now
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which is that all children are born with
immense crater
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potential much more than that dogs and
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I mean other animals may have something
like imagination creativity but they
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show no signs within the way that we do
look at the building where and
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look at the conversation we're having I
mean other animals may
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feel elated but they don't write poetry
you know
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they may get depressed but they don't
listen to Miles Davis and drink Jack
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Daniels
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you know we do
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am and the problem is
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that these capacities like literacy need
to be cultivated
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and its essential they do from humanity
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and it's essential because the sort
futures that we face these the powers
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that would deliver as into the future
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or I think make a stumble in the face of
it and current systems education
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do the exact opposite our current
systems education
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are routed in the idea that education is
really about learning
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facts and information primarily
propositional knowledge
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which is important but there's no space
for people to develop their real
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creative capacities it's not my fault
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teaches I don't think but we have
education systems which were
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rooted in the principles and ideals of
industrialism
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they were designed to do particular
things and that based on standardization
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and so far encouraging creativity
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the whole emphasis is on knowing certain
things and getting them right
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there's one answer and it's at the back
and don't look
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because that's cheating
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and don't talk to anybody else because
that's cheating to I'm outside the
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stores that's cool collaboration
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but inside stores
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now
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and I think this is a fundamental issue
of human rights it's an issue all
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economic and development at an issue
this occasion about communities
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and that means we have to look hard
curriculum
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in most schools for example the arts
which are not the only salsa creative
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thinking sciences
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hugely crated give me credit anything
but some people think in the way the
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Arts
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facilitate and if that's the way they
think this is a tough world for now
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because they get cut out
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am and assessment
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is really now focused entirely on the
process standardization
511
00:33:56,299 --> 00:34:00,650
and education has become the past two
months and the only way to revive it is
512
00:34:00,650 --> 00:34:01,679
to personalize it
513
00:34:01,679 --> 00:34:05,620
I don't think there's a kid in Vancouver
514
00:34:05,620 --> 00:34:09,149
to get outta bed in the morning wanting
what he or she can do to raise the
515
00:34:09,149 --> 00:34:10,450
province's reading standards
516
00:34:10,450 --> 00:34:14,230
you know they no call me I'm at your
disposal
517
00:34:14,230 --> 00:34:17,800
you know they they will read if they're
encouraged and engaged to read
518
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,409
so somewhere along this process for
investor education with lost sight
519
00:34:21,409 --> 00:34:26,220
at the heart of Education which is the
mines and hopes and aspirations have the
520
00:34:26,220 --> 00:34:27,580
students who pass through it
521
00:34:27,580 --> 00:34:30,909
and we have two revive that if we're to
522
00:34:30,909 --> 00:34:34,340
not just say that education but help our
children prosper
523
00:34:34,340 --> 00:34:37,659
and I think that's what's so compelling
about the work at the blue school
524
00:34:37,659 --> 00:34:40,899
and that's what's so compelling about
what we've heard about compassion
525
00:34:40,899 --> 00:34:44,290
creativity is one of my Nexus abide is
526
00:34:44,290 --> 00:34:47,720
which will delivers a more humane
education that we don't just need that
527
00:34:47,720 --> 00:34:49,119
our children are yearning for
528
00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:56,119
sold
529
00:35:01,609 --> 00:35:05,190
could I add a word to those wonderful
remarks absurd and robbins
530
00:35:05,190 --> 00:35:11,099
a education professor once remarked on
the fan that
531
00:35:11,099 --> 00:35:14,119
created the and used far more into
532
00:35:14,119 --> 00:35:18,579
problem formulated that it doesn't do
problems I'll
533
00:35:18,579 --> 00:35:22,369
problem formulation is often by far the
trickier part
534
00:35:22,369 --> 00:35:26,780
and schools
535
00:35:26,780 --> 00:35:29,829
he remarked the education professor rely
536
00:35:29,829 --> 00:35:34,869
schools almost the only place where the
problems are all formulated for you
537
00:35:34,869 --> 00:35:39,369
have you learned problem formulation
538
00:35:39,369 --> 00:35:43,319
in the conventional school it's a
539
00:35:43,319 --> 00:35:48,220
that the place where creative thinking
really comes in
540
00:35:48,220 --> 00:35:51,480
and we need far more exercised
541
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,480
in that then merely in problem solved
542
00:35:55,480 --> 00:36:02,480
yes
543
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,089
so Matt and Chris Ware we have seen me
544
00:36:07,090 --> 00:36:10,090
the performance we act %um heard you
545
00:36:10,090 --> 00:36:13,240
explaining what you mean by creativity
but for the sake of this
546
00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:17,890
had how would you greenpeace has the
what is missing in education
547
00:36:17,890 --> 00:36:22,050
to your work well up
548
00:36:22,050 --> 00:36:27,640
first I wanna say that arm sometimes we
used to say that when we first got
549
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,370
called in blue
550
00:36:29,370 --> 00:36:33,730
up and if we thought we were gonna make
a living from their
551
00:36:33,730 --> 00:36:37,970
they would have put us in a padded room
and prone waiver K
552
00:36:37,970 --> 00:36:41,820
and as I sit here this hauling ass
553
00:36:41,820 --> 00:36:45,330
and some the greatest minds from
planning
554
00:36:45,330 --> 00:36:49,680
I'm so home but I'd say if we had
555
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,920
when we first got balkan grew said we
were going to make a living and be
556
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:59,450
sitting here
557
00:36:59,450 --> 00:37:02,589
they throw away the key melted down
crime that up to
558
00:37:02,589 --> 00:37:06,970
blender by the you know
559
00:37:06,970 --> 00:37:10,650
our job I feel is
560
00:37:10,650 --> 00:37:13,890
now to translate olive way
561
00:37:13,890 --> 00:37:18,960
you said about creativity in the process
and working the mine
562
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:23,259
into the classroom and apply it to the
actual
563
00:37:23,259 --> 00:37:26,980
education have the children arm
564
00:37:26,980 --> 00:37:30,529
okay you said something very just
565
00:37:30,529 --> 00:37:34,319
came home for us the other day morning
sessions
566
00:37:34,319 --> 00:37:38,279
about teaching awareness and so
567
00:37:38,279 --> 00:37:41,529
a that's something that we're very much
568
00:37:41,529 --> 00:37:44,539
trying to do with with the home
569
00:37:44,539 --> 00:37:48,339
doctor then you feel with the help of
Sir Ken Robinson
570
00:37:48,339 --> 00:37:52,200
said on our board of advisors maybe we
can all be on the board
571
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:59,200
the visors if you don't mind after the
session with
572
00:38:01,849 --> 00:38:03,420
but this awareness
573
00:38:03,420 --> 00:38:06,520
I first home we feel like
574
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,150
creativity has to be sewn into every
single part
575
00:38:10,150 --> 00:38:15,590
the educational process we feel like
social and emotional learning
576
00:38:15,590 --> 00:38:19,099
not a separate subject but part of
everything
577
00:38:19,099 --> 00:38:22,530
so then the skills and embassy
578
00:38:22,530 --> 00:38:27,690
the skills of compassion are all sewn
into your literacy in your man
579
00:38:27,690 --> 00:38:30,890
in your social so as strong as anything
580
00:38:30,890 --> 00:38:34,130
are and and and and thats
581
00:38:34,130 --> 00:38:38,080
how teaching to the whole child up
582
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:42,140
you know might happen and so %um
583
00:38:42,140 --> 00:38:45,840
it it's not the easiest path
584
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,680
truly to take even least 10 minutes
585
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:54,070
each own this incredibly profound and
intelligent
586
00:38:54,070 --> 00:38:58,599
thinking and make it happen in the
classroom
587
00:38:58,599 --> 00:39:02,089
I but through teaching
588
00:39:02,089 --> 00:39:06,040
children have their own mines were
awareness
589
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:10,480
to their own process awareness to
creativity awareness to
590
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:15,700
how they treat themselves how they think
about us we're hoping
591
00:39:15,700 --> 00:39:18,080
that these children
592
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:23,620
will come out with the special skills
that we're gonna need
593
00:39:23,620 --> 00:39:28,910
tomb are build a harmonious and
sustainable world
594
00:39:28,910 --> 00:39:33,390
which is what the mission in the blue
school is so that's our home
595
00:39:33,390 --> 00:39:40,390
I did its
596
00:39:40,870 --> 00:39:43,930
I since we're talking about compassion
just one at that the
597
00:39:43,930 --> 00:39:49,210
iPhone that we blended was a prop
598
00:39:49,210 --> 00:39:54,340
with
599
00:39:54,340 --> 00:39:56,800
so they are 16,000
600
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,540
young children who will hearings on S
601
00:40:00,540 --> 00:40:06,070
in one out time and this is very very
very very close to king of education
602
00:40:06,070 --> 00:40:07,650
that's what is on this week do
603
00:40:07,650 --> 00:40:11,100
inspired them and we have to if this
604
00:40:11,100 --> 00:40:15,250
to the next Friday to again no
collectivity
605
00:40:15,250 --> 00:40:19,369
bidding at the speed of light so at the
conclusion
606
00:40:19,369 --> 00:40:23,500
his own issue often speak of
intelligence
607
00:40:23,500 --> 00:40:26,630
and the formation in education as being
tools
608
00:40:26,630 --> 00:40:29,900
hammer can do the house and
609
00:40:29,900 --> 00:40:34,200
and destroyed so you always been
stressing
610
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,250
out to introduce more even bad news
611
00:40:37,250 --> 00:40:40,840
in in education so could you as
concluding
612
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,190
port she remind us of
613
00:40:44,190 --> 00:40:47,250
what are your views Han more than that
614
00:40:47,250 --> 00:40:50,330
what's missing in modern education and
what could be added two more than
615
00:40:50,330 --> 00:40:51,020
education
616
00:40:51,020 --> 00:40:55,650
now we are in
617
00:40:55,650 --> 00:40:59,670
deliver century a
618
00:40:59,670 --> 00:41:03,220
they have I didn't quite clear
619
00:41:03,220 --> 00:41:09,630
memory what happened into century a
620
00:41:09,630 --> 00:41:12,490
that the day you mentioned her
621
00:41:12,490 --> 00:41:15,840
confer could century the
622
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,940
been to
623
00:41:18,940 --> 00:41:22,260
below 200 to 200 meters some people kit
624
00:41:22,260 --> 00:41:26,850
into sentry so usually I described
recently
625
00:41:26,850 --> 00:41:31,010
become like central brash sensual war
626
00:41:31,010 --> 00:41:36,220
wines pay
627
00:41:36,220 --> 00:41:39,530
to use that wines
628
00:41:39,530 --> 00:41:43,640
shady true news stroll many problem
629
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,270
permanently debt maybe some
justification
630
00:41:47,270 --> 00:41:53,210
but that not still not a problem up
631
00:41:53,210 --> 00:41:55,839
and then
632
00:41:55,839 --> 00:41:58,119
a firstly
633
00:41:58,119 --> 00:42:01,349
lower 21 die
634
00:42:01,349 --> 00:42:05,280
get warnings
635
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,910
get eliminated so
636
00:42:08,910 --> 00:42:12,500
everybody even i dnt Bronx
637
00:42:12,500 --> 00:42:18,589
also have to so to select I to you human
nature
638
00:42:18,589 --> 00:42:21,880
and springtime everything
639
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,630
gruel new life so if he had
640
00:42:25,630 --> 00:42:29,700
autumn leaves or chrome
641
00:42:29,700 --> 00:42:33,290
and he stinks treason
642
00:42:33,290 --> 00:42:37,359
them then something that netted on dead
sold
643
00:42:37,359 --> 00:42:40,980
we compare springtime
644
00:42:40,980 --> 00:42:44,480
I think this so does I think d
645
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,849
indication people on basis little a
signature
646
00:42:48,849 --> 00:42:52,380
we want fresh supply grow
647
00:42:52,380 --> 00:42:55,800
sold toxins
648
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,890
condescension come back singer
649
00:42:58,890 --> 00:43:02,260
wall bloodshed I'm not a problem
650
00:43:02,260 --> 00:43:06,079
not only saw my blog for he could
651
00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:10,329
to helpful known district for centuries
should use
652
00:43:10,329 --> 00:43:14,390
angel home peace be sent peaceful city
653
00:43:14,390 --> 00:43:17,990
peace does that mean doing nothing
654
00:43:17,990 --> 00:43:22,550
peace long soul all
655
00:43:22,550 --> 00:43:26,240
human be who had love intelligence
656
00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:31,820
Minda some horrible problem ball to
happen
657
00:43:31,820 --> 00:43:35,230
different views different ideas differs
a
658
00:43:35,230 --> 00:43:39,440
interest polish to so the scientists
also
659
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,780
pumped so they'll fall I took so long to
possible
660
00:43:43,780 --> 00:43:46,890
me and day data some problem solid
661
00:43:46,890 --> 00:43:50,550
so doubtful a out
662
00:43:50,550 --> 00:43:54,000
take for granted probably be dead now
the
663
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,710
at in order to be this century
664
00:43:57,710 --> 00:44:01,750
most sensual peace now we have to find
reasons
665
00:44:01,750 --> 00:44:04,760
means crucial these from to online
666
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:10,290
me so does too dialogue in order to
carry
667
00:44:10,290 --> 00:44:13,540
meaningful dialogue you must respect
others liked
668
00:44:13,540 --> 00:44:17,220
others you again
669
00:44:17,220 --> 00:44:20,500
I'll for mutual benefit then died
670
00:44:20,500 --> 00:44:24,360
but compromise not all these things
671
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,960
to of course internet is also important
role
672
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:33,570
here but mainly hot s I'll
673
00:44:33,570 --> 00:44:37,680
compassion respect has
674
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,920
just like they're also have tracked to
BG
675
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:47,980
data happiness doubtful sonar in order
676
00:44:47,980 --> 00:44:51,590
to rem dissension central
677
00:44:51,590 --> 00:44:55,000
peace peace ultimately
678
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,780
very much peace very much need to read
679
00:44:58,780 --> 00:45:02,200
I'll not intelligence but here hot
680
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:06,300
so doubtful president
681
00:45:06,300 --> 00:45:09,570
I'll education system and all
682
00:45:09,570 --> 00:45:13,780
for habit it. as human stayed with it.
683
00:45:13,780 --> 00:45:17,050
to me I think in the past
684
00:45:17,050 --> 00:45:20,100
acted last two centuries effectively
685
00:45:20,100 --> 00:45:23,880
GT would or all hope on materially
686
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,200
venues material to lament
687
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:31,690
control or frock but is not the case
688
00:45:31,690 --> 00:45:34,800
I notice today
689
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,220
if room society me to university
690
00:45:38,220 --> 00:45:41,570
very nd but
691
00:45:41,570 --> 00:45:45,210
stem inward
692
00:45:45,210 --> 00:45:48,870
too much stress hours for safety
693
00:45:48,870 --> 00:45:51,930
or too much creativity also used in
billings
694
00:45:51,930 --> 00:45:54,960
what cindy accomplish committed
695
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,290
subpoenaed mmm and see
696
00:45:58,290 --> 00:46:01,400
all idle to sometimes I
697
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,610
reduce competition that's backed isn't
it are
698
00:46:04,610 --> 00:46:08,910
I feel bottle competition you booked so
in a newbie
699
00:46:08,910 --> 00:46:12,790
this model safety that all the
facilities to
700
00:46:12,790 --> 00:46:15,910
but mentor too much stress
701
00:46:15,910 --> 00:46:18,960
daschle and
702
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:23,710
ruthless of competition brings suspicion
discuss
703
00:46:23,710 --> 00:46:28,350
from even with a one-handed
704
00:46:28,350 --> 00:46:32,210
first
705
00:46:32,210 --> 00:46:35,280
question for certain time
706
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:40,360
pretty happy then huge distrust both
sides
707
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,410
too much Sep said that attitude Duke
708
00:46:43,410 --> 00:46:45,840
did sold
709
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,130
my family problems individual broken
710
00:46:49,130 --> 00:46:53,310
now detracting from someone Japan up
711
00:46:53,310 --> 00:46:57,710
I was told among student a young student
up
712
00:46:57,710 --> 00:47:00,800
how r many key
713
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,000
no cases of depression cases full
714
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,440
really miss increase shoot right or
should increase
715
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:11,040
from me to hit 11
716
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:15,430
very good for but these things
717
00:47:15,430 --> 00:47:18,520
I can these cases and his kiss on the
Stephen
718
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,700
shows us me to you
719
00:47:21,700 --> 00:47:26,130
value long grisly the dish logically
720
00:47:26,130 --> 00:47:29,850
we have physical material
721
00:47:29,850 --> 00:47:32,970
provide physical Cup not meant to help
722
00:47:32,970 --> 00:47:36,830
so on Armada education seems to see
723
00:47:36,830 --> 00:47:40,290
them very much stress on the
724
00:47:40,290 --> 00:47:43,590
focusing focusing the median
725
00:47:43,590 --> 00:47:48,400
to gradual development citing
726
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,520
I'm in engine time about
727
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:55,960
well up because I'm not expect the the
728
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,200
but up II just uses it heard from since
729
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,060
someone from here from here from hell
for me to
730
00:48:02,060 --> 00:48:05,350
all dusted my the arbitration that
731
00:48:05,350 --> 00:48:08,600
not only did not issue some sturdy like
that
732
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,710
so doubtful I heard
733
00:48:11,710 --> 00:48:15,180
him up housing years ago this separate
734
00:48:15,180 --> 00:48:19,250
education institution stock at that time
735
00:48:19,250 --> 00:48:23,160
more Marshall between modern
736
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,300
talk modern education yet
737
00:48:26,300 --> 00:48:29,600
d and I mean responsibility
738
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,750
digging Cal more it takes church
739
00:48:32,750 --> 00:48:36,270
so at that time maybe solution
740
00:48:36,270 --> 00:48:39,940
more it it's church live up to
741
00:48:39,940 --> 00:48:43,250
be in development newly
742
00:48:43,250 --> 00:48:46,860
deadlocked institution Katie today
responsibility
743
00:48:46,860 --> 00:48:50,060
so now time Bossa do
744
00:48:50,060 --> 00:48:56,010
impulse of church the Jews good life the
family values of a decline
745
00:48:56,010 --> 00:48:59,650
then you should know what day K him on a
more personal
746
00:48:59,650 --> 00:49:03,590
now education institution it wrong have
both his hold
747
00:49:03,590 --> 00:49:07,450
David Campbell ranging Walmart miss
748
00:49:07,450 --> 00:49:11,250
so we need I G
749
00:49:11,250 --> 00:49:14,550
and also some my friend should forty
750
00:49:14,550 --> 00:49:19,110
up pretty good shed for really we need
751
00:49:19,110 --> 00:49:23,110
mall should research work Boston Tea
752
00:49:23,110 --> 00:49:26,510
now now everybody in love
753
00:49:26,510 --> 00:49:30,220
lost some to neck in education feed
754
00:49:30,220 --> 00:49:33,270
so it really did key factor to bring
755
00:49:33,270 --> 00:49:36,680
had be a human society hatfield so
756
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,720
so they're not something lacking so that
757
00:49:39,720 --> 00:49:43,440
I think we need specialist than you
758
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,660
nutz these people Massimo study more
759
00:49:46,660 --> 00:49:49,770
the social work and then made call
760
00:49:49,770 --> 00:49:54,710
crucial ideas up a poster up sometimes
761
00:49:54,710 --> 00:49:57,750
in your room born in America
762
00:49:57,750 --> 00:50:00,940
many cases in India also I expression
763
00:50:00,940 --> 00:50:04,670
these things but at the moment is the
people
764
00:50:04,670 --> 00:50:10,140
written for you agree but nothing
happened
765
00:50:10,140 --> 00:50:13,560
so now I'm hoping now time is running
out
766
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,560
great Sosa some Hawkins total
767
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:22,040
proposal also to ideas should should not
expect from me
768
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:26,070
no I don't know energy red so see
769
00:50:26,070 --> 00:50:29,390
those educated people those
770
00:50:29,390 --> 00:50:32,660
professors I think for I think now
771
00:50:32,660 --> 00:50:35,710
I'm used to speak with those young
people so
772
00:50:35,710 --> 00:50:39,220
these young people parties year people
773
00:50:39,220 --> 00:50:43,800
this century we hear bronze goaded into
century
774
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,940
now they are ready to say goodbye told
people
775
00:50:47,940 --> 00:50:51,320
before all plan on goodbye see
776
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,630
we must show some retractable guy
777
00:50:54,630 --> 00:51:01,630
to the next contestant
778
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,290
because the traffic position for the
next batter
779
00:51:15,290 --> 00:51:22,290
who will give place today thank you
780
00:51:57,720 --> 00:51:59,080
what a wonderful
781
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:04,400
session your holiness you have really
challenged us
782
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:10,170
and we have just a few minutes waiting
for our panel
783
00:52:10,170 --> 00:52:15,460
to get there belongs on because there
weren't enough to see
784
00:52:15,460 --> 00:52:21,710
have to change so I want to take this
opportunity
785
00:52:21,710 --> 00:52:27,450
to share with you a story of another
piece
786
00:52:27,450 --> 00:52:32,890
lauria keno I the last few days we've
had the luxury yeah
787
00:52:32,890 --> 00:52:36,250
the benefit having so wonderful
788
00:52:36,250 --> 00:52:40,030
so many wonderful nobel Peace Laureates
with us for this
789
00:52:40,030 --> 00:52:43,710
peace summit starting with yourself
790
00:52:43,710 --> 00:52:48,810
but I wanted to share with you another
story ever peace laureate who is
791
00:52:48,810 --> 00:52:49,800
Canadian
792
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,750
canadian peace laureate
793
00:52:53,750 --> 00:52:56,930
who received the Nobel Peace Prize in
nineteen
794
00:52:56,930 --> 00:53:00,110
fifty-seven a former
795
00:53:00,110 --> 00:53:04,060
Prime Minister have Canada Lester
Pearson
796
00:53:04,060 --> 00:53:11,060
mmm and when he accepted
797
00:53:12,940 --> 00:53:16,330
the Nobel Peace Prize 50
798
00:53:16,330 --> 00:53:20,570
over fifty years ago he challenged the
world
799
00:53:20,570 --> 00:53:25,950
by saying that we needed to seek peace
in the world
800
00:53:25,950 --> 00:53:28,990
and that it was a task we were doing
badly
801
00:53:28,990 --> 00:53:32,060
and here's a quote
802
00:53:32,060 --> 00:53:38,910
can I have to but he said at that point
that gramm
803
00:53:38,910 --> 00:53:43,180
fact is that we prepare for war
804
00:53:43,180 --> 00:53:47,960
like precocious Giants and for peace
805
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,240
like retarded pygmies
806
00:53:51,240 --> 00:53:54,810
mark
807
00:53:54,810 --> 00:54:00,150
three
808
00:54:00,150 --> 00:54:05,599
now we have to forgive him 40 maybe what
we would see today is being politically
809
00:54:05,599 --> 00:54:11,280
incorrect
810
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:12,980
but his words
811
00:54:12,980 --> 00:54:19,220
today I believe are as relevant as they
were fifty years ago
812
00:54:19,220 --> 00:54:23,420
why is it why is it your holiness
813
00:54:23,420 --> 00:54:27,250
that we spend billions of dollars
814
00:54:27,250 --> 00:54:32,140
and huge resources to prepare for war
815
00:54:32,140 --> 00:54:35,660
and spend so few dollars
816
00:54:35,660 --> 00:54:40,230
and so few resources and so few so
little energy
817
00:54:40,230 --> 00:54:43,550
in our education our research
818
00:54:43,550 --> 00:54:47,350
are inquire re in preparing for peace
819
00:54:47,350 --> 00:54:51,900
if you think about science and the use
of Science
820
00:54:51,900 --> 00:54:55,740
whether its quantum mechanics certain
nuclear physics and the
821
00:54:55,740 --> 00:54:59,580
building up weaponry and satellite
technology and
822
00:54:59,580 --> 00:55:02,610
I'm all for science believe me
823
00:55:02,610 --> 00:55:08,020
but where are the arts and the
humanities and the understanding that
824
00:55:08,020 --> 00:55:10,050
needs to be developed
825
00:55:10,050 --> 00:55:13,690
to allow us to know what it means to be
compassionate
826
00:55:13,690 --> 00:55:17,660
how to be kind how to be empathetic
827
00:55:17,660 --> 00:55:20,810
I believe there's a science there and I
think
828
00:55:20,810 --> 00:55:24,770
you do too and I know our panel
829
00:55:24,770 --> 00:55:29,380
this morning is going to take up from
the 2006
830
00:55:29,380 --> 00:55:33,140
I meeting on educating the heart
831
00:55:33,140 --> 00:55:37,300
where you challenged us just as you did
this last panel
832
00:55:37,300 --> 00:55:40,840
he said we now know why
833
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:44,510
we must do it we have to get on with how
we're going to do it
834
00:55:44,510 --> 00:55:46,109
and I hope today's pan
835
00:55:46,109 --> 00:55:53,109
on all will help us answer the house so
I'd like to introduce our panel
836
00:56:07,430 --> 00:56:14,430
I
837
00:56:18,599 --> 00:56:21,119
up
838
00:56:21,119 --> 00:56:28,119
them Steve
839
00:56:30,780 --> 00:56:33,780
so we're so please your holiness to have
840
00:56:33,780 --> 00:56:38,720
5 incredible intellectual experts with
us
841
00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:43,560
this morning and I'm going to give a
very brief introduction because I know
842
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:48,940
our audience is already red I the precis
in the bulletin but I would like to
843
00:56:48,940 --> 00:56:52,560
welcome to my right steven covey along
844
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:59,560
was steven is recognized as one of Time
Magazine's 25 Most Influential Americans
845
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,280
anything respected leader authority
846
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:07,000
family expert and author having written
847
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:14,000
The seven Habits of Highly really
affected people
848
00:57:18,510 --> 00:57:21,170
connected even is the Dell Diamond
849
00:57:21,170 --> 00:57:25,210
adele is one of the founders up the
field up development
850
00:57:25,210 --> 00:57:28,420
cognitive neuroscience and holds the
Canada
851
00:57:28,420 --> 00:57:32,730
research chair professorship in that
field at the University of British
852
00:57:32,730 --> 00:57:33,440
Columbia
853
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:40,440
prior to have to my left
854
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,180
Mairead Maguire Mary
855
00:57:45,180 --> 00:57:51,250
is a call recipient up the Nobel Peace
Prize in 1976
856
00:57:51,250 --> 00:57:58,250
she was responsible for call founding
the peace people Northern Ireland every
857
00:58:02,470 --> 00:58:03,180
salted
858
00:58:03,180 --> 00:58:06,350
in a number marches demanding an end
859
00:58:06,350 --> 00:58:13,350
to the violence in northern ireland
860
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:21,119
Clyde hurts man clyde is director of the
human Early Learning Partnership for
861
00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:23,360
help at UBC
862
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:27,460
and holds the Canada Research Chair in
population health
863
00:58:27,460 --> 00:58:34,460
and human development
864
00:58:35,490 --> 00:58:37,690
and Kimberly Schoener raichel
865
00:58:37,690 --> 00:58:42,390
cam is a former teacher for troubled
children and youth
866
00:58:42,390 --> 00:58:47,730
and is now a professor and education at
UBC she spent the majority of her
867
00:58:47,730 --> 00:58:49,110
academic career
868
00:58:49,110 --> 00:58:52,360
conducting research aimed at
understanding
869
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:59,360
the ways in which children's empathy and
compassion can be cultivated in schools
870
00:59:06,750 --> 00:59:08,940
so perhaps I'd like to start
871
00:59:08,940 --> 00:59:13,150
your holiness and asking you
872
00:59:13,150 --> 00:59:17,770
what role you think education might play
873
00:59:17,770 --> 00:59:24,770
in helping us prepare for peace
874
00:59:27,310 --> 00:59:28,330
dead
875
00:59:28,330 --> 00:59:29,450
for
876
00:59:29,450 --> 00:59:34,780
agree to be 21 I wanted to say a
877
00:59:34,780 --> 00:59:41,630
I
878
00:59:41,630 --> 00:59:45,619
I'll obviously is a
879
00:59:45,619 --> 00:59:48,710
the blindness
880
00:59:48,710 --> 00:59:52,890
a Morse the
881
00:59:52,890 --> 00:59:57,530
I think did
882
00:59:57,530 --> 01:00:00,890
from the beginning all human history
883
01:00:00,890 --> 01:00:07,890
this bottle but all history bother him
in like a
884
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:14,260
a form of President of India
885
01:00:14,260 --> 01:00:18,130
column has a up to a column
886
01:00:18,130 --> 01:00:21,470
a Muslim a
887
01:00:21,470 --> 01:00:26,190
with great scientist he
888
01:00:26,190 --> 01:00:29,820
her often used to say deceived on
889
01:00:29,820 --> 01:00:32,860
problem is to possible I
890
01:00:32,860 --> 01:00:39,860
and me
891
01:00:40,620 --> 01:00:46,020
so the helpful these violence
892
01:00:46,020 --> 01:00:49,220
the to actually
893
01:00:49,220 --> 01:00:52,220
is it come the idea
894
01:00:52,220 --> 01:00:55,040
we Andy a
895
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:58,340
this big summer got
896
01:00:58,340 --> 01:01:01,990
demain c'est then
897
01:01:01,990 --> 01:01:06,190
did destruct destruction destroy audio
898
01:01:06,190 --> 01:01:10,640
animee on them victory
899
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:15,800
of we so that
900
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:21,369
I think top seller housing it's not
possible NAR
901
01:01:21,369 --> 01:01:24,600
up firstly of course
902
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:28,590
their my limbs very much needed
903
01:01:28,590 --> 01:01:32,100
dat tested basis crews
904
01:01:32,100 --> 01:01:36,369
black and secondly
905
01:01:36,369 --> 01:01:39,460
British world Christianity
906
01:01:39,460 --> 01:01:44,680
no longer that division BND
907
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:49,140
economies in global economies in
908
01:01:49,140 --> 01:01:53,310
and also in what amenities in Anderson
be
909
01:01:53,310 --> 01:01:57,970
she is a little human human population
so
910
01:01:57,970 --> 01:02:01,750
on this we work together the human
911
01:02:01,750 --> 01:02:07,119
him few jobs humanity different so
doubtful
912
01:02:07,119 --> 01:02:10,540
if you can did goodies
913
01:02:10,540 --> 01:02:13,930
reality then
914
01:02:13,930 --> 01:02:17,880
wall this update a
915
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,740
at this problem is pop pop rock all-pro
916
01:02:21,740 --> 01:02:25,089
or should have proper soul
917
01:02:25,089 --> 01:02:29,289
sixty billion human being must work
together
918
01:02:29,289 --> 01:02:32,400
meet central be all us
919
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,509
so destino this
920
01:02:35,509 --> 01:02:39,130
it in you a according to a new reality
we need
921
01:02:39,130 --> 01:02:44,130
that kinda sorta concept soho cabinda
922
01:02:44,130 --> 01:02:47,640
towards a passion
923
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:51,049
compassion doubt dude havent
924
01:02:51,049 --> 01:02:56,660
one compassion
925
01:02:56,660 --> 01:02:57,340
of course the
926
01:02:57,340 --> 01:03:01,690
these things I already use mentioned
here past few days
927
01:03:01,690 --> 01:03:04,770
but then I things here some more people
I
928
01:03:04,770 --> 01:03:07,830
new people maybe here so doubtful
929
01:03:07,830 --> 01:03:11,490
may not be home for to repeat his team's
930
01:03:11,490 --> 01:03:14,900
so closer to levels two levels of
931
01:03:14,900 --> 01:03:18,800
compassion 111 a small I'll
932
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:22,780
by was a tractor that competition
933
01:03:22,780 --> 01:03:26,070
known train known need helpful
934
01:03:26,070 --> 01:03:29,270
wisdom spontaneous like
935
01:03:29,270 --> 01:03:32,740
compassion from model:protected all
936
01:03:32,740 --> 01:03:37,080
compassion percent from gensel the
alternatives
937
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,580
at least does reduce you see sure you
938
01:03:40,580 --> 01:03:44,110
posited indoor does religion
939
01:03:44,110 --> 01:03:48,020
visited native attitude pocket a
940
01:03:48,020 --> 01:03:49,510
the evening
941
01:03:49,510 --> 01:03:52,470
using pseudo sessile concern
942
01:03:52,470 --> 01:03:55,730
well-being even you should wish more
proper
943
01:03:55,730 --> 01:03:59,420
for DEP like that so desire up
944
01:03:59,420 --> 01:04:03,140
my was a factor and very much body into
it what about us
945
01:04:03,140 --> 01:04:07,050
act second half of compassion is
946
01:04:07,050 --> 01:04:10,550
now beyond not already ended
947
01:04:10,550 --> 01:04:15,089
others attitude as a disregard others
948
01:04:15,089 --> 01:04:19,270
attitude but stern they are shimmy
949
01:04:19,270 --> 01:04:23,690
and furthermore now send me up
950
01:04:23,690 --> 01:04:29,609
why breedlove pastor not disease in
951
01:04:29,609 --> 01:04:33,290
be kind Dawson no but simply
952
01:04:33,290 --> 01:04:37,339
I want happiness i'd what's up because
of bad
953
01:04:37,339 --> 01:04:42,359
said I have direct to work on some so
Dad Roger
954
01:04:42,359 --> 01:04:45,760
process other restaurant 16 resuming
955
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:49,589
all have same or do not want something
what happened this
956
01:04:49,589 --> 01:04:53,290
saw they offered is a she did
957
01:04:53,290 --> 01:04:56,390
could order up Rajiv happiness
958
01:04:56,390 --> 01:04:59,559
and the possible to produce
959
01:04:59,559 --> 01:05:03,180
must just sensual concern
960
01:05:03,180 --> 01:05:07,980
on so dad genuine compassion
961
01:05:07,980 --> 01:05:11,109
second-ever compassion data compression
962
01:05:11,109 --> 01:05:14,579
not buyers
963
01:05:14,579 --> 01:05:18,730
not oriented attitude but body and
964
01:05:18,730 --> 01:05:22,500
bnews are to the personal
965
01:05:22,500 --> 01:05:23,770
sending be
966
01:05:23,770 --> 01:05:29,750
sold dad unbiased dad going to
compassion
967
01:05:29,750 --> 01:05:33,250
no to training to reason
968
01:05:33,250 --> 01:05:37,090
as had earlier this reality my future
969
01:05:37,090 --> 01:05:41,060
given on Dec so I have to dig dat
interest
970
01:05:41,060 --> 01:05:44,900
are currently for my only interest road
971
01:05:44,900 --> 01:05:49,830
told mister song
972
01:05:49,830 --> 01:05:52,900
mean not education non
973
01:05:52,900 --> 01:05:57,820
very very important Index CPI educated
people
974
01:05:57,820 --> 01:06:00,830
no what happen
975
01:06:00,830 --> 01:06:04,380
did past century can century become
central
976
01:06:04,380 --> 01:06:09,050
black church central war what and spend
977
01:06:09,050 --> 01:06:13,060
on 'em in UT non-nuclear weapon
978
01:06:13,060 --> 01:06:16,740
should even just keeping peace nuclear
weapon
979
01:06:16,740 --> 01:06:20,340
lot of money at same time
980
01:06:20,340 --> 01:06:26,580
no bloody dead to use these rare service
sometime
981
01:06:26,580 --> 01:06:29,690
within Visual money 100 are
982
01:06:29,690 --> 01:06:33,140
if u'd positive who do you love
983
01:06:33,140 --> 01:06:40,140
you clean nuclear weapon they should use
if you use nuclear weapon doesn't matter
984
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:45,310
sets this
985
01:06:45,310 --> 01:06:49,010
rough Magnus ancestors so doubtful
986
01:06:49,010 --> 01:06:52,680
as I wasn't thinking these nine them
987
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:56,010
now time come we
988
01:06:56,010 --> 01:07:01,340
have to who have get vichy did do you
dressed warm
989
01:07:01,340 --> 01:07:05,550
and one-time one German professor
990
01:07:05,550 --> 01:07:09,730
express good
991
01:07:09,730 --> 01:07:13,460
the whole world become something like
one for what a
992
01:07:13,460 --> 01:07:17,080
on body so use government
993
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:20,980
no need Foreign Ministry Defense
Ministry
994
01:07:20,980 --> 01:07:25,100
you should treat your neighbor as
children mystics
995
01:07:25,100 --> 01:07:31,250
boda boda yourself i contested so the
very idea
996
01:07:31,250 --> 01:07:34,820
Foreign Ministry do you foreign
997
01:07:34,820 --> 01:07:38,290
something different day and defense
998
01:07:38,290 --> 01:07:42,460
protect your step cost David accepting
999
01:07:42,460 --> 01:07:45,760
so this is very concerned is
1000
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:49,220
I think updated like that
1001
01:07:49,220 --> 01:07:56,220
so these things through education to end
1002
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:07,360
wonderful on trade
1003
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:10,760
want to turn to my education experts
here
1004
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:15,000
Clyde Inc Eminem after them first Clyde
1005
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,100
what role do the schools have
1006
01:08:18,100 --> 01:08:22,480
in educating the heart and can you give
us some examples of things that might be
1007
01:08:22,480 --> 01:08:23,750
happening and then
1008
01:08:23,750 --> 01:08:28,350
kim chi name what's your experience been
here in Vancouver and across the
1009
01:08:28,350 --> 01:08:30,980
province and throughout the world and
what can we
1010
01:08:30,980 --> 01:08:34,180
help in terms of guiding and moving this
agenda
1011
01:08:34,180 --> 01:08:37,510
educating the heart forward will
1012
01:08:37,510 --> 01:08:40,980
its your holiness since you were here
the last time
1013
01:08:40,980 --> 01:08:45,799
you out challenged us to stop talking
and start acting
1014
01:08:45,799 --> 01:08:49,850
and so over the last few years we've
been trying to mobilize
1015
01:08:49,850 --> 01:08:54,980
the schools in British Columbia to focus
on social emotional learning and to take
1016
01:08:54,980 --> 01:08:56,030
seriously
1017
01:08:56,030 --> 01:08:59,030
educating the human heart one other ways
1018
01:08:59,030 --> 01:09:02,540
we've been trying to do that is to get
the whole education system
1019
01:09:02,540 --> 01:09:07,210
to recognize that educating the human
heart problems starting
1020
01:09:07,210 --> 01:09:10,370
right at the very beginning of life
because
1021
01:09:10,370 --> 01:09:13,560
as children develop vision
1022
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:16,620
as they develop hearing and touch and
speech
1023
01:09:16,620 --> 01:09:19,790
particularly the century parts of those
1024
01:09:19,790 --> 01:09:23,510
I'll develop connections with the DD
1025
01:09:23,510 --> 01:09:27,569
structures in the brain that got to do
with whether or not we feel like we
1026
01:09:27,569 --> 01:09:28,330
belong
1027
01:09:28,330 --> 01:09:31,560
or whether or not we feel threatened and
so that children who grow up in
1028
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:32,450
environments
1029
01:09:32,450 --> 01:09:38,100
which are threatening really see what's
up angry faces where they deal with lots
1030
01:09:38,100 --> 01:09:38,480
of
1031
01:09:38,480 --> 01:09:41,500
this kinda touch rather than that kinda
touch
1032
01:09:41,500 --> 01:09:45,760
admin their shouted at and so forth by
the time they reach school age
1033
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:50,120
their brains are actually gifford from
children who have grown up
1034
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:53,850
here in strong yeah I emotionally
accepting
1035
01:09:53,850 --> 01:09:58,280
environments such that basins threat
1036
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,680
for others don't they see track brothers
don't
1037
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:06,450
and that means that there are huge
barriers to them becoming compassionate
1038
01:10:06,450 --> 01:10:07,150
citizens
1039
01:10:07,150 --> 01:10:11,290
have the sort that you just described so
one of the things that we've done
1040
01:10:11,290 --> 01:10:15,340
over the last few years as we've worked
with all the kindergarten teachers in
1041
01:10:15,340 --> 01:10:16,160
this province
1042
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:19,220
so we're talking about several thousand
kindergarten teachers
1043
01:10:19,220 --> 01:10:22,720
when children at age five getting them
1044
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:26,870
to look at the Stade children's
development are they physically
1045
01:10:26,870 --> 01:10:27,620
aggressive
1046
01:10:27,620 --> 01:10:32,320
are the AM happen helpful and so forth
and provide that information so that we
1047
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:34,180
can actually map home
1048
01:10:34,180 --> 01:10:38,560
the contour soberly social and emotional
development for all the neighborhoods in
1049
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:39,240
the province
1050
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:43,900
and we've done this 13 twice three times
so we are the first jurisdiction in the
1051
01:10:43,900 --> 01:10:44,400
world
1052
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:49,090
that is thoroughly now the feeder early
social and emotional development
1053
01:10:49,090 --> 01:10:56,090
in
1054
01:10:58,110 --> 01:11:01,290
in what we've discovered is that in some
neighborhoods in the province
1055
01:11:01,290 --> 01:11:05,640
only two or three or five percent of the
children have a worrisome state of
1056
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:08,030
emotional development by the time they
reach school age
1057
01:11:08,030 --> 01:11:12,300
but in other areas it's 25 or 30 percent
in its totally avoidable
1058
01:11:12,300 --> 01:11:16,320
and so we are working now in the
preschool period with the family
1059
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,390
strengthening programs and the be
1060
01:11:18,390 --> 01:11:22,560
criteria for quality child care to get
those things in bed early
1061
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:27,010
and then working with people like him to
transition into schools and mainstream
1062
01:11:27,010 --> 01:11:28,140
these kind of ideas
1063
01:11:28,140 --> 01:11:33,030
so Kim how does that transition take
place and what's happening after this
1064
01:11:33,030 --> 01:11:36,260
after this the children reach school all
and that
1065
01:11:36,260 --> 01:11:39,390
title experiences that you think might
make a difference
1066
01:11:39,390 --> 01:11:43,280
well your home yes it's an honored to be
here again with you to talk about
1067
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,030
education at the heart n
1068
01:11:45,030 --> 01:11:48,560
when think the Clyde talked about is
that there to be children who come into
1069
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:49,280
school
1070
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:52,810
with problems and but we don't want to
give up hoping for a while
1071
01:11:52,810 --> 01:11:57,680
forget it they've come kinda damage what
we know is that schools as you've said
1072
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:02,250
educational play a powerful role and one
thing in British Columbia and which
1073
01:12:02,250 --> 01:12:03,530
we're very lucky
1074
01:12:03,530 --> 01:12:07,590
is that the promotion of social and
emotional learning is prominent
1075
01:12:07,590 --> 01:12:11,620
is part of the goal education so in 2001
1076
01:12:11,620 --> 01:12:16,910
social responsibility is one of the four
goals education in British Columbia
1077
01:12:16,910 --> 01:12:19,910
in addition to reedy writing
1078
01:12:19,910 --> 01:12:24,760
now and social them the parts have SOC
responsibly that schools promote
1079
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:28,720
in include things like create
contributing to classroom in school
1080
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:29,660
community
1081
01:12:29,660 --> 01:12:34,490
solving problems in peaceful ways
practicing democratic
1082
01:12:34,490 --> 01:12:37,970
rights and responsibilities and value we
1083
01:12:37,970 --> 01:12:41,300
at valuing diversity in defending human
rights
1084
01:12:41,300 --> 01:12:44,400
so one thing that has been very easy for
us to do
1085
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:49,160
am in your last challenged Western you I
think you told us just get to work now
1086
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:52,430
in 2006 six and start doing that
1087
01:12:52,430 --> 01:12:56,600
a lot has happened here there are many
initiatives across the province
1088
01:12:56,600 --> 01:13:00,680
which really are focusing on educating
the hearts of children
1089
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:04,030
and programs that bring in mind for
attention awareness programs for
1090
01:13:04,030 --> 01:13:04,840
teachers
1091
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:08,930
even a teacher training program now for
pre-service teacher education programs
1092
01:13:08,930 --> 01:13:11,160
to help them learn the strategies
1093
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:18,160
to educate the heart of children
1094
01:13:22,940 --> 01:13:25,159
I want to know the city
1095
01:13:25,159 --> 01:13:28,380
as is served all who the practice diesel
1096
01:13:28,380 --> 01:13:31,980
other the beautiful hot these things up
1097
01:13:31,980 --> 01:13:35,770
Andrew Sullivan what differences
1098
01:13:35,770 --> 01:13:40,650
does student who happened at energy
education
1099
01:13:40,650 --> 01:13:43,980
%uh that program and those student who
1100
01:13:43,980 --> 01:13:50,980
possible to death penalty education want
out
1101
01:13:51,020 --> 01:13:55,349
p.m. you know we've basically been doing
a lot of researches you know science
1102
01:13:55,349 --> 01:13:58,940
very important and we are finding
differences in terms of children who
1103
01:13:58,940 --> 01:14:01,199
receive these programs develop
1104
01:14:01,199 --> 01:14:06,290
and fifty altruism compassion and even
do better in school
1105
01:14:06,290 --> 01:14:09,750
so we know there's a lot of things that
happen by educating the heart
1106
01:14:09,750 --> 01:14:16,750
and educating the mind together
wonderful
1107
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:21,480
other
1108
01:14:21,480 --> 01:14:24,790
education which is family
1109
01:14:24,790 --> 01:14:29,710
and the role families might play and I
know steven you are an expert
1110
01:14:29,710 --> 01:14:34,320
on that and maybe you could share with
us some other things that you think that
1111
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:34,750
the
1112
01:14:34,750 --> 01:14:38,590
there the role the family the type that
education learning that takes place
1113
01:14:38,590 --> 01:14:40,560
there in terms of educating the heart
1114
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:44,310
formal
1115
01:14:44,310 --> 01:14:47,960
fundamental and most important
1116
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:54,760
organization in the world and that's
where most believe will
1117
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:59,150
fundamental education takes place so I
suggest
1118
01:14:59,150 --> 01:15:03,730
we have a call me at nine song and I
have a family of nine children
1119
01:15:03,730 --> 01:15:10,730
and 51 grandchild that if you ask me
1120
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:16,550
law one plane has made a huge difference
1121
01:15:16,550 --> 01:15:20,980
its the development a family mission
statement
1122
01:15:20,980 --> 01:15:24,710
and we put ur
1123
01:15:24,710 --> 01:15:28,000
literally on and the ones rest or their
1124
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,570
put on their ankle and
1125
01:15:31,570 --> 01:15:36,770
a family mission statement basically
weenie server
1126
01:15:36,770 --> 01:15:42,020
God by serving others so it gets them
into the
1127
01:15:42,020 --> 01:15:45,480
pick up service and
1128
01:15:45,480 --> 01:15:48,610
into the character development of
1129
01:15:48,610 --> 01:15:53,770
subordinating themself me
1130
01:15:53,770 --> 01:15:56,470
to the idea of we
1131
01:15:56,470 --> 01:16:00,340
what the Dalai Lama just talked about
1132
01:16:00,340 --> 01:16:03,710
so that you moved from independence
1133
01:16:03,710 --> 01:16:07,650
to interdependence and a high level of
collaboration
1134
01:16:07,650 --> 01:16:12,510
sold to me that it's been the most
significant
1135
01:16:12,510 --> 01:16:16,100
one single thing that we have done
1136
01:16:16,100 --> 01:16:21,030
the second thing very practical I finish
training
1137
01:16:21,030 --> 01:16:24,260
Indian chiefs that run indian nations in
North America
1138
01:16:24,260 --> 01:16:29,090
at in Mexico United States and Canada
including First Nations
1139
01:16:29,090 --> 01:16:32,560
and after three days
1140
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,840
training they gave to me especially a
1141
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,950
is called an Indian Talking Stick
1142
01:16:38,950 --> 01:16:43,330
is about this high they put my name on
the back side
1143
01:16:43,330 --> 01:16:50,120
they call me mall a No yeah
1144
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:51,830
even though I did a lot of
1145
01:16:51,830 --> 01:16:55,340
special load ryan that morning for extra
wide
1146
01:16:55,340 --> 01:16:59,520
anyway I'm
1147
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:03,350
the idea is very very simple this was
taught by
1148
01:17:03,350 --> 01:17:06,840
the iroquois federation to the founding
fathers
1149
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:12,260
love United States the ideas
1150
01:17:12,260 --> 01:17:18,840
that you always given first to the other
person and I cannot say anything
1151
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:23,530
until you feel understood which stirs up
1152
01:17:23,530 --> 01:17:29,940
empathy impacted listen so you get
inside your frame of reference
1153
01:17:29,940 --> 01:17:33,160
India mein and into your heart
1154
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:36,520
it I really understand not only what you
said
1155
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:41,520
know how you feel about what you said
and I can't say anything
1156
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:45,760
and tell I have done this then you pass
it back to me
1157
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:50,180
now it's my turn to express how I see it
1158
01:17:50,180 --> 01:17:54,570
and how I feel about a as this goes back
and forth
1159
01:17:54,570 --> 01:17:57,940
between us creativity is only
1160
01:17:57,940 --> 01:18:02,199
and you come up with a third alternative
solutions
1161
01:18:02,199 --> 01:18:05,300
not my way not your way
1162
01:18:05,300 --> 01:18:10,610
and not a compromise but a new way that
we have created together
1163
01:18:10,610 --> 01:18:13,900
and that automatically begins to develop
1164
01:18:13,900 --> 01:18:17,810
spear up interdependency and
collaboration
1165
01:18:17,810 --> 01:18:23,540
and cooperation and profound respect
1166
01:18:23,540 --> 01:18:26,840
for other people and so
1167
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:30,730
I'm I teach this wherever I go
1168
01:18:30,730 --> 01:18:34,480
this is another
1169
01:18:34,480 --> 01:18:38,950
form opinion Talking Stick you could use
a pencil you can use a piece of paper
1170
01:18:38,950 --> 01:18:43,180
the object is valuable simply because
1171
01:18:43,180 --> 01:18:46,880
you do not get it back and cannot
express yourself
1172
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:50,150
until that person gives it to you mean
1173
01:18:50,150 --> 01:18:54,560
I feel understood and both levels
1174
01:18:54,560 --> 01:19:00,590
compassion that the Dalai Lama just talk
about are developed in this way
1175
01:19:00,590 --> 01:19:03,780
through impact a glistening
1176
01:19:03,780 --> 01:19:06,850
and trying to understand
1177
01:19:06,850 --> 01:19:11,390
deeply when a person says and what they
feel about what they say
1178
01:19:11,390 --> 01:19:15,090
so we focus a great deal on
1179
01:19:15,090 --> 01:19:18,420
both to develop in a mission statement
1180
01:19:18,420 --> 01:19:21,770
the we all participate in creating
1181
01:19:21,770 --> 01:19:26,470
it took us eight months to create this
1182
01:19:26,470 --> 01:19:29,120
we serve God by serving others
1183
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:32,340
and the
1184
01:19:32,340 --> 01:19:35,690
may seek approach that we use to develop
us
1185
01:19:35,690 --> 01:19:41,240
is Indian Talking Stick communication
maybe I could ask you steven
1186
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:48,240
to hand at Talking Stick to it down
1187
01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:57,550
sir
1188
01:19:57,550 --> 01:20:02,700
reading this conversation because its
holiness is going to have to leave us
1189
01:20:02,700 --> 01:20:03,910
very shortly
1190
01:20:03,910 --> 01:20:08,410
to go and educate the hearts up sixteen
1191
01:20:08,410 --> 01:20:11,440
thousand young people in a
1192
01:20:11,440 --> 01:20:14,610
we conference so I wanna be
1193
01:20:14,610 --> 01:20:20,450
have way to get we get both about their
speakers to share with us
1194
01:20:20,450 --> 01:20:25,760
and i wanna change the focus a little
bit the individual and how does the
1195
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:26,780
individual
1196
01:20:26,780 --> 01:20:30,280
learn without necessarily going to
school or
1197
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:35,190
counting on their family and tell you
once said that you thought that
1198
01:20:35,190 --> 01:20:39,540
people who are the happiest are those
who make others happy
1199
01:20:39,540 --> 01:20:42,800
and I'm wondering if you could share
with us some of your ideas about
1200
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:48,170
how individuals can achieve that and
then that to ask me read
1201
01:20:48,170 --> 01:20:53,470
kind of the same question in terms of
how in terms of what you found
1202
01:20:53,470 --> 01:20:58,720
your experiences how do you draw upon
yourself to become compassionate what
1203
01:20:58,720 --> 01:20:59,170
you
1204
01:20:59,170 --> 01:21:02,450
what do you the not from others but
1205
01:21:02,450 --> 01:21:06,190
internally how do you learn internally
how to be compassion
1206
01:21:06,190 --> 01:21:09,390
to be joyful and to live in the moment
I'll
1207
01:21:09,390 --> 01:21:13,070
Talking Stick moving back and forth on
1208
01:21:13,070 --> 01:21:16,510
your holiness you'll remember for Doc
from Damansara
1209
01:21:16,510 --> 01:21:20,740
that I am very interested in practical
in moving beyond
1210
01:21:20,740 --> 01:21:24,110
words and if we want to educate the
heart of children
1211
01:21:24,110 --> 01:21:29,370
we need to start with us with you and I
because children learn what they'd lived
1212
01:21:29,370 --> 01:21:33,010
it's very nice to tell them things in
school but what they learn
1213
01:21:33,010 --> 01:21:36,840
up from the examples to the people
around them so we need to start with us
1214
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:40,650
and it doesn't have to be big thing she
could be when you leave today
1215
01:21:40,650 --> 01:21:43,730
you let another car merging from India
or
1216
01:21:43,730 --> 01:21:47,260
it could be on and just I am
1217
01:21:47,260 --> 01:21:51,330
saying thank you to somebody in the
store who was serving you with the
1218
01:21:51,330 --> 01:21:52,920
people clean your office
1219
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:54,100
they ought any
1220
01:21:54,100 --> 01:21:57,780
number of things you can do little
things you can do that teehee
1221
01:21:57,780 --> 01:22:01,870
help you and help the child now your
holiness is set
1222
01:22:01,870 --> 01:22:05,210
if you want others to be happy showed
the compassion
1223
01:22:05,210 --> 01:22:08,860
if you want yourself to be happy show
others compassion
1224
01:22:08,860 --> 01:22:14,270
and is profoundly the net but you often
don't realize it unless you experience
1225
01:22:14,270 --> 01:22:14,520
it
1226
01:22:14,500 --> 01:22:19,280
because before you experience it you
often think it's a zero-sum game what
1227
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:20,830
i'd give you I'd lose
1228
01:22:20,830 --> 01:22:24,270
and I have to got to a lot to give to
you
1229
01:22:24,270 --> 01:22:27,670
and what she'd do it and you realize how
1230
01:22:27,670 --> 01:22:32,500
incredibly happy it makes you just just
saying hello to a stranger on the street
1231
01:22:32,500 --> 01:22:37,890
seen everything smiley you makes you
happy and so you get so much back from
1232
01:22:37,890 --> 01:22:39,410
doing that and
1233
01:22:39,410 --> 01:22:43,530
on I have a proposal for the school's a
British Columbia
1234
01:22:43,530 --> 01:22:47,920
there we have a competition each school
at the beginning of the year
1235
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:51,610
for the children to use their creativity
to
1236
01:22:51,610 --> 01:22:55,050
crude to think outside the box to think
up ways that they can help
1237
01:22:55,050 --> 01:22:58,710
other people they could make the world a
better place it could be at the level up
1238
01:22:58,710 --> 01:22:59,370
less
1239
01:22:59,370 --> 01:23:03,440
a greater school and then all the
relevant people the children
1240
01:23:03,440 --> 01:23:07,350
the be teachers the janitors the people
who work in them
1241
01:23:07,350 --> 01:23:12,160
and cafeteria both I what they think is
the best plan and then the children
1242
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:12,590
doing
1243
01:23:12,590 --> 01:23:16,040
they may create the possibility %uh
doing it
1244
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:20,080
whether it's helping people across the
world are helping your school
1245
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:23,200
and then at the end of the year they can
be awards
1246
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:27,400
but not only the brightest the best that
we but the teacher this
1247
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:31,290
into have shown that most kindness shown
the most impassioned
1248
01:23:31,290 --> 01:23:38,290
anything come not only from the school
but kinda
1249
01:23:42,900 --> 01:23:46,350
I go beyond its where the profit
1250
01:23:46,350 --> 01:23:51,179
kids %uh awards for this not only two
children but adults
1251
01:23:51,179 --> 01:23:54,860
and not only to the fancy people who are
leading the Burg a
1252
01:23:54,860 --> 01:23:58,909
but to the no name people who don't have
fancy degrees a fancy positions
1253
01:23:58,909 --> 01:24:03,199
but in their everyday life are doing
things to make the world a better place
1254
01:24:03,199 --> 01:24:06,780
and I think my university the University
British Columbia
1255
01:24:06,780 --> 01:24:10,449
could get in the act and offer
scholarships a thousand dollars
1256
01:24:10,449 --> 01:24:13,780
to any student who's won this award from
their school
1257
01:24:13,780 --> 01:24:20,780
and I'm gonna be quiet to give time
1258
01:24:24,980 --> 01:24:26,760
this little your button I'm getting
1259
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:29,860
very very significant signals that we
need to
1260
01:24:29,860 --> 01:24:33,730
law the I you want
1261
01:24:33,730 --> 01:24:37,030
allow me to to power like
1262
01:24:37,030 --> 01:24:44,030
file were so Mary over to you
1263
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:51,640
up
1264
01:24:54,590 --> 01:24:58,260
said when I in the morning weekend
everyone
1265
01:24:58,260 --> 01:25:01,280
me because cell much
1266
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:04,940
and PC when you mucho like
1267
01:25:04,940 --> 01:25:08,930
yet hitting more me
1268
01:25:08,930 --> 01:25:12,760
I mean lol and have a lot of and
1269
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:16,290
the feeling inside we have this energy
and this
1270
01:25:16,290 --> 01:25:19,340
me to be loved just to be
1271
01:25:19,340 --> 01:25:22,760
staff didn't just for somebody to reach
like this
1272
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:27,640
my and accept this and perhaps the
hardest thing for any parent
1273
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:31,270
as to accept their child
1274
01:25:31,270 --> 01:25:38,270
child with the pot and Zack I'm not
wanting to control
1275
01:25:38,969 --> 01:25:42,260
on to dominate and perform them into
being
1276
01:25:42,260 --> 01:25:49,260
sucks sass well in the world
1277
01:25:54,750 --> 01:25:55,310
hidden
1278
01:25:55,310 --> 01:25:58,490
to me our kids be like us
1279
01:25:58,490 --> 01:26:01,940
you know what every single individual
1280
01:26:01,940 --> 01:26:05,200
and create I'm new repeated be
1281
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:10,390
with tremendous potential and our
children the greatest gift we can
1282
01:26:10,390 --> 01:26:15,260
get them isn't allowed them to be
yourself night we are called to be
1283
01:26:15,260 --> 01:26:16,890
helping human beings
1284
01:26:16,890 --> 01:26:20,730
first calling in life to be hopping film
1285
01:26:20,730 --> 01:26:24,930
joint cool human be wouldn't be all the
rage
1286
01:26:24,930 --> 01:26:28,650
all the age and never known what I would
be to be fully
1287
01:26:28,650 --> 01:26:31,870
allied I'm not like any other skill
1288
01:26:31,870 --> 01:26:35,540
are geared there are steps to being
helped by
1289
01:26:35,540 --> 01:26:38,810
after all then I might be the best offer
1290
01:26:38,810 --> 01:26:41,910
we spend our being the best signed Santa
1291
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how many are still we spend on this is
not a selfish thing
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because if you are not within yourself
properly and compassionate can
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01:26:50,890 --> 01:26:54,360
enjoy this you cannot give this to your
children are
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01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:57,750
anyone trying to get shoulder happiness
cart
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01:26:57,750 --> 01:27:01,460
with any and there are steps to help in
this
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what do you think 45 6789 10 and you can
be
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a joyous but
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because
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01:27:22,849 --> 01:27:25,899
we talk be ours we never taught
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01:27:25,899 --> 01:27:29,649
our children are now online in our
schooling system
1301
01:27:29,649 --> 01:27:34,869
the most important thing hardened deal
with the emotions inside this
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01:27:34,869 --> 01:27:38,489
the desperate fear desperate anxiety
1303
01:27:38,489 --> 01:27:42,449
the desperate need to some hard that
ended this word
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01:27:42,449 --> 01:27:45,749
how do we deal with those crucifying
1305
01:27:45,749 --> 01:27:49,789
a motion which stop us being
compassionate
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01:27:49,789 --> 01:27:53,189
good when you're and p.m. it's like
having a toothpick
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01:27:53,189 --> 01:27:56,510
you can't reach out to others a
compassionate because you're so
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01:27:56,510 --> 01:27:57,349
frightened
1309
01:27:57,349 --> 01:28:00,619
and here up people who are different
people who are more
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01:28:00,619 --> 01:28:03,659
educated dunya because you are so
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01:28:03,659 --> 01:28:07,499
in should cheer and lonely in here
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01:28:07,499 --> 01:28:10,719
the journey is a PM fearful
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01:28:10,719 --> 01:28:13,969
lonely journey and the
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01:28:13,969 --> 01:28:18,340
only way we can help gonna help let the
children coming into sector
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01:28:18,340 --> 01:28:21,519
word the only way we can help them
through done
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01:28:21,519 --> 01:28:24,659
journey is to help bill understand
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01:28:24,659 --> 01:28:28,859
that we all have these emotions we r all
upgraded
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01:28:28,859 --> 01:28:32,530
alright we're all anxious we wonder
1319
01:28:32,530 --> 01:28:36,419
with say the wrong word and get
embarrassed what people say
1320
01:28:36,419 --> 01:28:40,700
that the emperor has no clothes
1321
01:28:40,700 --> 01:28:43,890
you know I think overcoming these
emotions
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01:28:43,890 --> 01:28:47,800
fun the education system starting from
the children were young
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01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:51,340
and the home to learn to be popping
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01:28:51,340 --> 01:28:54,990
fulfilled almost children
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I i think at he added
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fun
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