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Was it all just a dream?
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God bless you, Florida! Thank you!
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Did the last four yearsnot really happen?
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Look, there's Ben Affleck.He's often in my dreams.
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And the Taxi Driver guy.He was there too.
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And little Stevie Wonder,he seemed so happy...
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... like a miracle had taken place.
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Was it a dream?
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We want Gore!
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Or was it real?
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It was election night 2000, and thingsseemed to be going as planned.
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In New York, Al Gore is
our projected winner.
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The Garden State is green for Gore.
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We project Mr. Gore the winner in
Delaware. This state has voted with...
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Excuse me, one second.
I'm sorry to interrupt.
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Mike, I wouldn't do this
if it weren't big.
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Florida goes for Al Gore.
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CNN announces that we call Florida
in the Al Gore column.
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Then something called the Fox NewsChannel called the election...
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... in favor of the other guy.
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Fox News now projects George
W. Bush the winner in Florida...
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...and thus it appears the winner of the
presidency of the United States.
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All of a sudden, the othernetworks said:
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"Hey, if Fox said it, it must be true."
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All of us at the networks made
a mistake...
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...and projected Florida
in the Al Gore column.
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It was our mistake.
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What most people don't know isthat the man in charge...
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... of the decision desk at Foxthat night...
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... the man who called it for Bush...
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... was none other than Bush'sfirst cousin John Ellis.
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How does someone like Bush getaway with something like this?
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Well, first, it helps if your brother isthe governor of the state in question.
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You know something? We are gonna
win Florida. Mark my words.
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You can write it down.
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Second, make sureyour campaign chairman...
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... is also the vote-count womanand that her state hires a company...
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... to knock voters off the rollswho aren't likely to vote for you.
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You can usually tell themby the color of their skin.
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Then make sure your side fightslike it's life or death.
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This talk about legitimacy
is overblown.
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President Bush! President Bush!
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And hope the other sidesits by.
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And even if numerous independentinvestigations...
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... prove that Gore got themost votes...
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If there was a statewide recount,
Gore won the election.
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... it won't matter, as long as allyour daddy's friends...
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... on the Supreme Court votethe right way.
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While I strongly disagree with
the court's decision, I accept it.
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What we need now is acceptance.
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We have a new president-elect.
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It turns out none of this was a dream.It's what really happened.
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On the day the joint session of boththe House of Representatives...
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... and the Senate was to certifythe election results...
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... AI Gore, in his dual roleas outgoing vice president...
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... and president of the Senate...
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... presided over the eventthat would officially anoint...
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... George W. Bushas the new president.
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If any congressman wanted to raisean objection, the rules insisted...
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... that he or she had to have thesigned support of just one senator.
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Mr. President, and I take great pride
in calling you that...
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...I must object because
of the overwhelming evidence...
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...of misconduct, deliberate fraud
and an attempt to suppress voter...
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The chair must remind members
that under Section 18 of Title 3...
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...United States Code, no debate
is allowed in the joint session.
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Thank you, Mr. President.
To answer your question...
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...the objection is in writing, signed
by a number of members...
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...of the House of Representatives,
but not by a member of the Senate.
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Mr. President, it is in writing and
signed by several House colleagues...
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...on behalf, and myself, of the 27,000
voters of Duval County...
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...in which 16,000 of them are
African-Americans...
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...that was disenfranchised
in this last election.
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Is the objection signed by a member
of the Senate?
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Not signed by a member
of the Senate.
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The Senate is missing.
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It is in writing and signed
by myself...
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...on behalf of many
of the diverse constituents...
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...especially those
in the 9th Congressional District...
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...and all American voters who
recognize that the Supreme Court...
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...not the people of the United States,
decided this election.
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Is the objection signed
by a senator?
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Unfortunately, Mr. President, it is
not signed by one single senator.
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I have no authority
over the United States Senate...
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...and no senator has signed.
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Mr. President, it is in writing and
signed by myself and several...
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...of my constituents from Florida.
A senator is needed, but missing.
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Is the objection in writing...
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...and signed by a member
of the House and a senator?
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The objection is in writing,
and I don't care...
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...that it is not signed by a member
of the Senate.
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The chair will advise that the rules
do care...
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...and the signature of a senator...
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Not a single senator came to the aidof the African-Americans in Congress.
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One after another, they were toldto sit down and shut up.
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It's a sad day in America,
Mr. President, when we can't find...
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...a senator to sign the objections...
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- The gentleman will suspend...
- New Democratic senators won't sign.
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- I object.
- The gentleman will suspend.
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Inauguration coverage, 2001...
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...on a nasty, but it could be worse,
kind of day in Washington.
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- What do we want?
- Justice!
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- When do we want it?
- Now!
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On the day George W. Bush wasinaugurated...
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... tens of thousands of Americanspoured into the streets of D. C...
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... in one last attempt to reclaimwhat had been taken from them.
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They pelted Bush's limo with eggs...
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Stay back! Get back!
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... and brought the inaugurationparade to a halt.
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The plan to have Bush get outof the limo for the traditional walk...
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... to the White Housewas scrapped.
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Bush's limo hit the gas to preventan even larger riot.
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No president had ever witnessedsuch a thing on his inauguration day.
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And for the next eight months, it didn'tget any better for George W. Bush.
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He couldn't get his judges appointed,he struggled to pass his legislation...
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... and he lost Republican controlof the Senate.
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His approval ratings in the pollsbegan to sink.
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He was already beginning to looklike a lame-duck president.
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With everything going wrong,he did what any of us would do.
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He went on vacation.
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Oh, no!
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In his first eight months in officebefore September 11 th...
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... George W. Bush was on vacation,according to The Washington Post...
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... 42 percent of the time.
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If I hit every shot good, people would
say I wasn't working.
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It was not surprising that Mr. Bushneeded some time off.
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Being president is a lot of work.
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What about these folks that say that
you're taking too long of a vacation?
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They don't understand the definition
of work, then.
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I'm getting a lot done. You don't
have to be in Washington to work.
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It's amazing what can happen
with telephones and faxes.
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Thank you so much.
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- Is this to Destiny and Bubba?
- Yeah.
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What are you doing the rest
of the day?
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Karen Hughes is coming over.
We're working on some things.
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And she'll be over here. We're working
on a few things, a few matters.
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I'm working on some initiatives.
We're... You'll see.
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There'll be some decisions
I will have made while I'm here.
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We'll be announcing them
as time goes on.
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The first time I met him, he hadsome good advice for me.
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Governor Bush, it's Michael Moore.
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Behave yourself, will you?
Go find real work.
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And work was something he knewa lot about.
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- Anybody want some grits?
- Yeah.
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Relaxing at Camp David.Yachting off Kennebunkport.
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How you doing?
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Or being a cowboy on the ranchin Texas.
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I love nature, getting
in the truck with my dogs.
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Oh, hi.
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George Bush spent the restof August at the ranch...
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... where life was less complicated.
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Armadillos love to dig the soil
looking for bugs.
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And...
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So I went out there the other day,
and there was Barney...
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...buried in this hole,
chasing an armadillo.
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It was a summer to remember.
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Afterward, he left Texas forhis second-favorite place.
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On September 10th, he joinedhis brother in Florida...
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... where they looked at filesand met important Floridians.
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He went to sleep that night in a bedmade with fine French linens.
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Do you suppose he's pretty
confident...
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...on those numbers on Iraqi
security forces?
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Make me look young.
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Yeah, I've got a little,
sort of air noise.
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Yeah, just don't turn it up too much.
I don't want to blow my head off.
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I got a mike here
if they want to use it.
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Testing, one, two. This is
the Oval Office. Testing, one, two.
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Testing, one, two.
This is the Oval Office.
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Testing, one, two, three, four, five.
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We have something that has
happened here...
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...at the World Trade Center.
We noticed a flame...
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...and an awful lot of smoke...
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This is horrible.
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- Oh, my God!
- Oh, my God.
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Oh, my, dear.
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Let's go! Let's go, back!
Come on, let's go!
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Oh, my God!
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Save their souls, Lord.
Save their souls, Lord.
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Oh, they're jumping.
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On September 11 th, 2001,nearly 3000 people...
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... including a colleague of mine,Bill Weems...
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... were killed in the largest foreignattack ever on American soil.
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The targets were the financialand military headquarters...
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... of the United States.
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If anyone has any idea or they've seen
him or knows where he is, to call us.
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He's got two little babies.
Two little babies.
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As the attack took place,Mr. Bush was on his way...
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... to an elementary schoolin Florida.
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When informed of the first planehitting the World Trade Center...
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... where terrorists had struckjust eight years prior...
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... Mr. Bush decided to go aheadwith his photo opportunity.
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- Good morning, boys and girls.
- Good morning.
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Good morning.
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Read this word the fast way.
Get ready.
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- "Mad"!
- Yes. Get ready.
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- "Calf"!
- Yeah.
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Get ready to read the words on this
page without making a mistake.
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When the second plane hitthe tower...
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... his chief of staff enteredthe classroom...
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... and told Mr. Bush,"The nation is under attack."
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Not knowing what to do, with no onetelling him what to do...
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... and no Secret Service rushingin to take him to safety...
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... Mr. Bush just sat there...
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... and continued to read
My Pet Goat with the children.
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Nearly seven minutes passedwith nobody doing anything.
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As Bush sat in that Floridaclassroom...
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... was he wondering if maybehe should have shown up...
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... to work more often?
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Should he have held at least onemeeting since taking office...
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... to discuss the threat of terrorismwith his head of counterterrorism?
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Maybe Bush wondered why he hadcut terrorism funding from the FBI.
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Or perhaps he just should have readthe security briefing...
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... that was given to him onAugust 6th, 2001...
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... which said Osama bin Ladenwas planning...
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... to attack America by hijackingairplanes.
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Maybe he wasn't worried, becausethe title of the report was too vague.
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I believe the title was
"Bin Laden Determined...
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...to Attack Inside the United States."
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A report like that might makesome men jump...
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... but, as in days past,George W. Just went fishing.
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As the minutes went by, George Bushcontinued to sit in the classroom.
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Was he thinking, "I've been hangingout with the wrong crowd.
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Which one of them screwed me?
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Was it the guy my daddy's friendsdelivered a lot of weapons to?
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Was it that group of religiousfundamentalists...
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... who visited my state whenI was governor?
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Or was it the Saudis?
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Damn. It was them. I thinkI better blame it on this guy. "
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In the days followingSeptember 11 th...
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... all commercial and private airlinetraffic was grounded.
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The FAA has taken the action to close
all of the airports in the United States.
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Even grounding the president's
father, former President Bush...
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...on a flight forced to land
in Milwaukee.
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Thousands of travelers were stranded,
among them Ricky Martin...
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...due to appear at tonight's
Latin Grammy Awards.
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Not even Ricky Martin could fly.But really, who wanted to fly?
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No one, except the bin Ladens.
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We had airplanes pick up...
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...Osama bin Laden's family
and other Saudis...
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...and transport them out
of the U.S.
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The White House approved planes...
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... to pick up the bin Ladensand numerous other Saudis.
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At least six private jets and nearlytwo dozen commercial planes...
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... carried the Saudisand bin Ladens...
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... out of the U.S. AfterSeptember 13th.
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In all, 142 Saudis, including 24members of the bin Laden family...
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... were allowed to leavethe country.
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Osama's always been portrayed
as the black sheep in the family...
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...that they cut off all relationship
with him in 1994.
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It's more complicated than that.
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Osama has had contact with
other family members?
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Right. In the summer of 2001, just
before 9l11, one of Osama's sons...
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...got married in Afghanistan,
and several family members...
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...showed up at the wedding.
- Bin Ladens?
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That's right. So they're not cut off
completely. That's an exaggeration.
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We now welcome to
Larry King Live...
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...Prince Bandar, ambassador of the
Kingdom of Saudi Arabia to the U.S.
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You had about 24 members
of bin Laden's family, and...
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- Here?
- In America. Students and...
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His Majesty felt it's not fair for those
innocent people to be subjected...
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...to any harm. On the other hand,
we understood the high emotions...
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...so, with coordination with the FBI,
we got them out.
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This is retired FBI agentJack Cloonan.
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Before 9/11, he was a senior agenton the joint FBl-CIA...
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... al Qaeda task force.
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I, as an investigator, would not
want these people to have left.
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I think, in the case of the bin Laden
family, it would have been prudent...
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...to hand the subpoenas out, have
them come in, get on-the-record.
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You know, get on-the-record.
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- That's the proper procedure?
- Yeah.
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How many people were pulled off
airlines after that...
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...coming into the country
who were Middle Eastern...
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...or they fit a very general picture.
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We held hundreds of people
for weeks and months at a time.
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Did the authorities do anything when
the bin Ladens tried to leave?
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No. They were identified
at the airport.
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They looked at their passports,
and they were identified.
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That would happen to us
if we left the country.
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- Exactly.
- Interview, check the passport.
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- What else?
- Nothing.
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I don't know about you,but usually...
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... when the police can't finda murderer...
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... don't they usually wanna talkto the family members...
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... to find out where they thinkhe might be?
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You don't know
where your husband is?
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If you hear anything,
let us know.
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Can you come downtown,
give a statement?
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- How long?
- You've got time.
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Mine's worth money. Yours isn't.
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- Send a bill.
- I asked you a question.
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- Answer them. Don't ask them.
- I pay your salary, cop.
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Sit down. I'm gonna earn it.
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Yeah. That's how cops do it.What was going on here?
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We need to know more about that.
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It needs to be the subject
of an investigation.
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What happened? How did it happen?
Why? Who authorized it?
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Lmagine what those poor bastards
were feeling...
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...when jumping off that
building to their death.
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Those young guys and cops
and firemen...
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...that ran into that building,
never asked a question.
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And they're dead.
And families' lives are ruined.
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- And they'll never have peace.
- That's right.
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And if I had to inconvenience...
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...a member of the bin Laden family
with a subpoena or a grand jury...
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...do you think I'd lose sleep over it?
Not a minute.
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No one would question it.
Not even the biggest civil libertarian.
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- No, no. It's just...
- No one would question it.
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You know, you got a lawyer? Fine.
Counsel? Fine.
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Mr. Bin Laden, this is why I'm asking.
It isn't because I think you're anything.
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I just want to ask you the questions
that I would anybody.
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- Right.
- And that's all.
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None of this made any sense.
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Can you imagine in the days afterthe Oklahoma City terrorist bombing...
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... President Clinton helping to arrangea trip...
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... out of the countryfor the Mc Veigh family?
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What would have happenedto Clinton...
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- ... if that had been revealed?
- Burn him! Burn him!
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Prince Bandar, do you know
the bin Laden family?
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- I do, very well.
- What are they like?
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They're really lovely human beings.
He is the only one I never...
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I don't know him well,
but I met him only once.
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What was the circumstance
under which you met?
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This is ironic. In the mid-'80s...
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...if you remember,
we and the United States...
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...were supporting the mujahideen...
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...to liberate Afghanistan
from the Soviets.
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He came to thank me for my efforts
to bring the Americans, our friends...
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...to help us against the atheists,
the Communists. Isn't it ironic?
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He came to thank you for helping
bring America to help him.
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And now he may be responsible
for bombing America.
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- Absolutely.
- What did you make of him?
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- I was not impressed.
- Not impressed?
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No. I thought he was a simple
and very quiet guy.
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A simple and quiet guy, whosefamily just happened to have...
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... a business relationship withthe family of George W. Bush.
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Is that what he was thinking about?
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Because if the public knew this,it wouldn't look very good.
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Was he thinking, "You know...
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... I need a big, black marker"?
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In early 2004, in a speech duringthe New Hampshire primary...
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... I called George W. Busha deserter...
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... from his timein the Texas Air National Guard.
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In response, the White Housereleased his military records...
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... in the hopes of disprovingthe charge.
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What Bush didn't know isthat I already had a copy...
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... of his military records, uncensored,obtained in the year 2000.
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And there is one glaring differencebetween the records released...
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... in 2000 and those he releasedin 2004.
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A name had been blacked out.
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In 1972, two airmen were suspendedfor failing to take...
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... their medical examination.One was George W. Bush.
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And the other was James R. Bath.
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In 2000, the documents showboth names.
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But in 2004, Bush and the WhiteHouse had Bath's name blacked out.
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Why didn't Bush want the pressand the public...
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... to see Bath's nameon his military records?
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Perhaps he was worried that theAmerican people would find out...
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... that at one time, James R. Bath...
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... was the Texas money managerfor the bin Ladens.
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Bush and Bath had becomegood friends...
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... when they both served in theTexas Air National Guard.
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After they were discharged...
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... when Bush's dad was headof the CIA...
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00:27:55,248 --> 00:27:59,207
... Bath opened up his own aviationbusiness after selling a plane...
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... to a man by the nameof Salem bin Laden...
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... heir to the second-largest fortunein Saudi Arabia...
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... the Saudi Binladin Group.
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W. At that time was just starting off
in the world as a businessman.
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Because he's a guy who's always
tried to emulate his father...
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...he went into the oil business.
He founded an oil company, Arbusto...
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...which was very good at drilling dry
holes that nothing came out of.
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But the question has always been,
"Where did this money come from?"
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Now, his dad was rich. His dad
could have done this for him...
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...but his dad didn't do this for him.
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There's no indication Daddy wrote a
check to start him off in his company.
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So where did George W. Bushget his money?
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I'm George Bush.
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One person who did invest in himwas James R. Bath.
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Bush's good friend, James Bath,was hired by the bin Laden family...
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... to manage their money in Texasand invest in businesses.
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00:29:03,916 --> 00:29:09,752
And James Bath himself, in turn,invested in George W. Bush.
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Bush ran Arbusto into the ground...
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00:29:14,527 --> 00:29:17,325
... as he did every other companyhe was involved in...
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... until finally one of his companieswas bought by Harken Energy...
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... and they gave him a seaton their board.
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00:29:25,938 --> 00:29:29,999
A lot of us suspected through
the years that there has been...
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...Saudi oil money involved
in these companies:
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Harken, Spectrum 7, Arbusto
Drilling, all the Bush companies.
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Whenever they got in trouble,
there were these angel investors...
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00:29:41,154 --> 00:29:43,088
...who flowed money into
the companies.
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00:29:43,256 --> 00:29:47,659
The question is, why would Saudis,
who had all the oil in the world...
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00:29:47,827 --> 00:29:52,594
...go around the globe to invest
in this lousy oil company?
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00:29:52,765 --> 00:29:56,792
And the thing is, Harken had one
big thing going for it...
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00:29:56,969 --> 00:30:00,427
...which is that George W. Bush
was on its board of directors...
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00:30:00,606 --> 00:30:03,769
...at a time when his father was
president of the United States.
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00:30:03,943 --> 00:30:06,969
When you're the president's son
and you've got unlimited access...
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00:30:08,581 --> 00:30:11,243
...combined with some credentials
from a prior campaign...
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00:30:11,417 --> 00:30:15,444
...in Washington, D.C., people tend
to respect that. Access is power.
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00:30:15,621 --> 00:30:20,217
And I can find my dad and talk
to him any time of the day.
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Yes, it helpsto be the president's son...
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00:30:23,930 --> 00:30:26,057
... especially when you're beinginvestigated...
402
00:30:26,232 --> 00:30:28,462
... by the Securities and ExchangeCommission.
403
00:30:28,634 --> 00:30:31,467
In 1990, when Mr. Bush was
a director of Harken Energy...
404
00:30:31,637 --> 00:30:33,798
...he received this memo
from company lawyers...
405
00:30:33,973 --> 00:30:36,407
...warning directors not to sell stock
if they had...
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00:30:36,576 --> 00:30:38,806
...unfavorable information about
the company.
407
00:30:38,978 --> 00:30:43,210
One week later, he sold $848,000
worth of Harken stock.
408
00:30:43,383 --> 00:30:47,251
Two months later, Harken announced
losses of more than $23 million.
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00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,886
The James Baker law partnerwho helped Bush...
410
00:30:50,056 --> 00:30:52,081
... beat the rap from the SEC...
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00:30:52,258 --> 00:30:54,920
... was a man by the nameof Robert Jordan...
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00:30:55,094 --> 00:30:57,790
... who, when George W. Becamepresident...
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00:30:57,964 --> 00:31:02,230
... was appointed ambassadorto Saudi Arabia.
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00:31:05,371 --> 00:31:09,705
After the Harken debacle, the friendsof Bush's dad got him a seat...
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00:31:09,876 --> 00:31:14,210
... on another board, of a companyowned by the Carlyle Group.
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00:31:14,380 --> 00:31:16,940
We looked at which companies gained
from September 11 th.
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00:31:19,952 --> 00:31:23,319
We turned up this company, Carlyle
Group, a multinational conglomerate...
418
00:31:23,489 --> 00:31:26,287
...that invests in heavily
government-regulated industries...
419
00:31:26,459 --> 00:31:31,590
...like telecommunications, health care
and particularly, defense.
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00:31:31,764 --> 00:31:34,699
Both George W. Bush
and George H.W. Bush...
421
00:31:34,867 --> 00:31:38,098
...worked for the Carlyle Group,
the same company that counted...
422
00:31:38,271 --> 00:31:41,001
...the bin Laden family among
its investors.
423
00:31:42,008 --> 00:31:45,136
The Carlyle Group was holding
its annual investor conference...
424
00:31:45,311 --> 00:31:47,108
...on the morning
of September 11 th...
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00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,680
...in the Ritz-Carlton Hotel
in Washington D.C.
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00:31:49,849 --> 00:31:54,513
At that meeting were
all of the Carlyle regulars...
427
00:31:54,687 --> 00:31:58,145
...James Baker, likely John Major,
definitely George H.W. Bush...
428
00:31:58,324 --> 00:32:00,884
...though he left the morning
of September 11 th.
429
00:32:01,060 --> 00:32:05,019
Shafiq bin Laden, who is
Osama bin Laden's half brother...
430
00:32:05,198 --> 00:32:10,659
...was in town to look after his family's
investments in the Carlyle Group.
431
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All of them together in one room,
watching...
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00:32:13,072 --> 00:32:16,337
...as the planes hit the towers.
433
00:32:16,509 --> 00:32:18,534
In fact, the bin Laden family
was invested...
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00:32:18,711 --> 00:32:22,442
...in one of their defense funds,
which ironically meant...
435
00:32:22,615 --> 00:32:28,576
...that as the U.S. Increased defense
spending, the bin Laden family...
436
00:32:28,754 --> 00:32:31,985
...stood to gain from those investments
through the Carlyle Group.
437
00:32:32,158 --> 00:32:37,221
Our commander in chief,
President George W. Bush.
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00:32:37,396 --> 00:32:39,591
With all the weapons companiesit owned...
439
00:32:39,765 --> 00:32:42,495
... the Carlyle Group was, in essence,the 11 th largest...
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00:32:42,668 --> 00:32:45,535
... defense contractorin the United States.
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00:32:45,705 --> 00:32:49,232
- Thanks a lot.
- It owned United Defense...
442
00:32:49,475 --> 00:32:52,808
... makers of the Bradley armoredfighting vehicle.
443
00:32:52,979 --> 00:32:56,574
September 11 th guaranteed thatUnited Defense...
444
00:32:56,749 --> 00:32:59,877
... was going to havea very good year.
445
00:33:02,154 --> 00:33:04,486
Just six weeks after 9/11...
446
00:33:04,657 --> 00:33:07,592
... Carlyle filed to takeUnited Defense public...
447
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,785
... and made a one-day profitof $237 million.
448
00:33:14,567 --> 00:33:16,558
But sadly, with so much attentionfocused...
449
00:33:16,736 --> 00:33:20,228
... on the bin Laden family beingimportant Carlyle investors...
450
00:33:20,473 --> 00:33:23,033
... the bin Ladens eventuallyhad to withdraw.
451
00:33:23,209 --> 00:33:26,144
Bush's dad, though, stayed onas senior adviser...
452
00:33:26,312 --> 00:33:30,009
... to Carlyle's Asia boardfor another two years.
453
00:33:30,182 --> 00:33:36,143
As unseemly as it seems
to know that George H.W. Bush...
454
00:33:36,322 --> 00:33:38,620
...was meeting
with the bin Laden family...
455
00:33:38,791 --> 00:33:45,219
...while Osama was a wanted terrorist,
well before September 11 th...
456
00:33:46,399 --> 00:33:49,926
...it's very discomforting
for Americans to know that.
457
00:33:50,102 --> 00:33:54,766
George H.W. Bush is a man who
has, obviously, incredible reach...
458
00:33:54,941 --> 00:33:56,431
...into the White House.
459
00:33:56,909 --> 00:34:01,972
He receives daily CIA briefings,
which is the right of any ex-president...
460
00:34:02,148 --> 00:34:06,448
...but very few ex-presidents
actually exercise that right. He does.
461
00:34:06,619 --> 00:34:11,113
And, I think, in a very real way they
are benefiting from the confusion...
462
00:34:11,290 --> 00:34:14,521
...that arises when George H.W. Bush
visits Saudi Arabia...
463
00:34:14,694 --> 00:34:18,494
...on behalf of Carlyle
and meets with the royal family...
464
00:34:18,664 --> 00:34:20,996
...and meets
with the bin Laden family.
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Is he representing the United States
of America?
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Or is he representing an investment
firm in the United States?
467
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,705
Or is he representing both?
468
00:34:29,875 --> 00:34:33,276
This company is about money,
not conspiracies to run the world...
469
00:34:33,446 --> 00:34:37,815
...or engineer political maneuvering
and things like that.
470
00:34:37,984 --> 00:34:41,215
It's about making money,
and it's about making a lot of money.
471
00:34:41,387 --> 00:34:43,787
And they've done very well.
472
00:34:44,790 --> 00:34:47,088
I could get you on-the-record
on this question.
473
00:34:49,562 --> 00:34:52,588
In the White House view,
there is no ethical conflict...
474
00:34:52,765 --> 00:34:57,668
...in former President Bush and
former Secretary of State Jim Baker...
475
00:34:57,837 --> 00:35:00,863
...using their contacts
with world leaders to represent...
476
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:06,000
...one of the most well-known military
arms dealers, the Carlyle Group?
477
00:35:06,178 --> 00:35:10,877
The president has full faith
that his family will conform...
478
00:35:11,050 --> 00:35:14,918
...with all proper ethics laws
and will act properly in their conduct.
479
00:35:15,087 --> 00:35:19,023
Okay, let's say one group of people,like the American people...
480
00:35:19,191 --> 00:35:22,456
... pay you $400,000 a yearto be president of the United States.
481
00:35:24,196 --> 00:35:27,688
But then another group of peopleinvest in you, your friends...
482
00:35:27,867 --> 00:35:32,668
... and their related businesses,$ 1.4 billion over a number of years.
483
00:35:32,838 --> 00:35:35,568
Who are you gonna like?Who's your daddy?
484
00:35:36,142 --> 00:35:39,077
That's how much the Saudi royalsand their associates...
485
00:35:39,245 --> 00:35:45,013
... have given the Bush family, theirfriends and their related businesses...
486
00:35:45,184 --> 00:35:46,879
... in the past three decades.
487
00:35:47,053 --> 00:35:49,487
Seems like a very nice reunion
with friends.
488
00:35:49,655 --> 00:35:52,249
Is it rude to suggestthat when the Bush family...
489
00:35:52,425 --> 00:35:55,189
... wakes up in the morning,they might be thinking...
490
00:35:55,361 --> 00:36:00,389
... about what's best for the Saudisinstead of what's best for you or me?
491
00:36:00,900 --> 00:36:04,836
Because 1.4 billion just doesn't buya lot of flights out of the country.
492
00:36:05,004 --> 00:36:07,199
It buys a lot of love.
493
00:36:59,091 --> 00:37:01,423
Sooner or later,this special relationship...
494
00:37:01,594 --> 00:37:04,461
... with a regime that AmnestyInternational condemns...
495
00:37:04,630 --> 00:37:07,155
... as a widespread human-rightsviolator...
496
00:37:07,333 --> 00:37:09,096
... would come back to hauntthe Bushes.
497
00:37:11,137 --> 00:37:13,105
Now, after 9/11, it wasan embarrassment.
498
00:37:13,272 --> 00:37:16,799
And they preferred that no oneask any questions.
499
00:37:16,976 --> 00:37:19,240
Investigation should have begun
on September 12th.
500
00:37:21,113 --> 00:37:23,946
There's no reason it shouldn't have.
Three thousand were dead.
501
00:37:24,116 --> 00:37:26,641
It should've gotten started
immediately.
502
00:37:26,819 --> 00:37:29,219
First, Bush tried to stop Congressfrom setting up...
503
00:37:30,923 --> 00:37:34,359
- ... its own 9/11 investigation.
- It's important for us...
504
00:37:35,161 --> 00:37:37,493
...to not reveal how
we collect information.
505
00:37:37,663 --> 00:37:40,791
That's what the enemy wants.
And we're fighting an enemy.
506
00:37:40,966 --> 00:37:43,901
When he couldn't stop Congress,he then tried to stop...
507
00:37:44,069 --> 00:37:47,129
... an independent 9/11 commissionfrom being formed.
508
00:37:47,306 --> 00:37:49,570
The president's position was a break
from history.
509
00:37:49,742 --> 00:37:52,677
Independent investigations were
launched after Pearl Harbor...
510
00:37:52,845 --> 00:37:54,710
...and President Kennedy's
assassination.
511
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,747
But when Congress did completeits own investigation...
512
00:37:57,917 --> 00:38:01,080
... the Bush White Housecensored 28 pages of the report.
513
00:38:01,253 --> 00:38:05,121
The president is being pressed
by all sides to declassify the report.
514
00:38:05,291 --> 00:38:08,226
U.S. Officials tell NBC News
most of the secret sources...
515
00:38:08,394 --> 00:38:10,055
...involve Saudi Arabia.
516
00:38:10,229 --> 00:38:15,929
We've given extraordinary cooperation
with Chairmen Kean and Hamilton.
517
00:38:16,101 --> 00:38:18,092
We haven't gotten the materials
we needed...
518
00:38:19,805 --> 00:38:21,932
...and haven't gotten them
in a timely fashion.
519
00:38:22,107 --> 00:38:24,098
Will you testify
before the commission?
520
00:38:24,276 --> 00:38:28,610
This commission? You know, I don't...
Testify? I'd be glad to visit with them.
521
00:38:28,781 --> 00:38:32,342
What it will do is, the hole
that's in my heart...
522
00:38:32,518 --> 00:38:34,850
...and has been in my heart
since September 11 th...
523
00:38:36,856 --> 00:38:42,522
I lost my husband of 15 years.
I am now by myself.
524
00:38:44,063 --> 00:38:47,032
I need to know what happened
to him.
525
00:38:47,766 --> 00:38:53,261
I know what I got back
from the autopsy.
526
00:38:53,439 --> 00:38:58,001
That man was my life,
and I have no plan.
527
00:38:58,177 --> 00:39:01,078
I was taking a class,
and they asked me...
528
00:39:01,247 --> 00:39:03,681
...what was I gonna do in the next
five years.
529
00:39:03,849 --> 00:39:07,444
And if I'm not doing something
with this, I don't know what reason...
530
00:39:07,620 --> 00:39:11,249
...I have to live.
So it's very important.
531
00:39:12,057 --> 00:39:15,549
Very important. Okay.
532
00:39:16,195 --> 00:39:17,719
Okay.
533
00:39:19,131 --> 00:39:21,224
Ignored by the Bush administration...
534
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,426
... more than 500 relativesof 9/11 victims...
535
00:39:24,603 --> 00:39:27,868
... filed suit against Saudi royalsand others.
536
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,474
The lawyers the Saudidefense minister hired...
537
00:39:30,643 --> 00:39:32,611
... to fight the 9/11 families?
538
00:39:32,778 --> 00:39:38,216
The law firm of Bush family confidant,James A. Baker.
539
00:39:38,384 --> 00:39:41,945
So right here in the center of three
important American landmarks...
540
00:39:42,121 --> 00:39:45,648
...the Watergate Hotel
and office building...
541
00:39:45,824 --> 00:39:48,190
...the Kennedy Center over there...
542
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,854
...and the embassy of Saudi Arabia.
543
00:39:53,198 --> 00:39:54,460
Yeah.
544
00:39:54,633 --> 00:39:58,262
How much money do the Saudis
have invested in America, roughly?
545
00:39:58,437 --> 00:40:02,339
I've heard figures as high
as $860 billion.
546
00:40:02,508 --> 00:40:05,500
- Eight hundred and sixty billion?
- Billion.
547
00:40:05,678 --> 00:40:08,112
- That's a lot of money.
- A lot, yeah.
548
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,876
And what percentage of our economy
does that represent?
549
00:40:13,052 --> 00:40:14,314
It seems like a lot.
550
00:40:14,486 --> 00:40:18,286
Well, in terms of investments
on Wall Street in American equities...
551
00:40:18,457 --> 00:40:22,120
...it's roughly 6 or 7 percent
of America.
552
00:40:22,294 --> 00:40:24,819
They own a fairly good slice
of America.
553
00:40:24,997 --> 00:40:28,057
Most of that money goes into
the great blue-chip companies.
554
00:40:28,233 --> 00:40:32,169
Citigroup, Citibank,
the largest stockholder is a Saudi.
555
00:40:32,338 --> 00:40:36,001
AOL-Time Warner has
big Saudi investors.
556
00:40:36,175 --> 00:40:39,303
So I read where, like, the Saudis have
a trillion dollars...
557
00:40:39,478 --> 00:40:42,470
...in our banks of their money.
What would happen...
558
00:40:42,648 --> 00:40:44,616
...if they pulled that trillion out?
559
00:40:44,783 --> 00:40:48,310
A trillion dollars? That would be
an enormous blow to the economy.
560
00:40:49,088 --> 00:40:51,318
Can I speak to you for a moment,
please, sir?
561
00:40:51,490 --> 00:40:53,924
- How are you doing?
- Good, how you doing?
562
00:40:54,093 --> 00:40:58,086
Steve Kimball with the Secret Service.
We're just ascertaining information.
563
00:40:58,263 --> 00:41:01,232
Are you doing a documentary
on the Saudi Arabian Embassy?
564
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,427
No. I am doing a documentary,
and part of it is about Saudi Arabia.
565
00:41:05,604 --> 00:41:08,266
Even though we were nowhere nearthe White House...
566
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,171
... the Secret Service had shown upto ask us what we were doing...
567
00:41:12,344 --> 00:41:14,744
... standing across the streetfrom the Saudi Embassy.
568
00:41:14,913 --> 00:41:17,575
- We're not here to cause any trouble.
- Okay.
569
00:41:18,217 --> 00:41:20,310
- You know. Is that...?
- No, that's fine.
570
00:41:20,486 --> 00:41:23,512
We just wanted to get
some information as far as...
571
00:41:23,689 --> 00:41:25,122
What's going on, yeah.
572
00:41:25,290 --> 00:41:28,487
I didn't realize the Secret Service
guards foreign embassies.
573
00:41:28,660 --> 00:41:31,652
- Not usually, no, sir.
- No. Do they give you any trouble?
574
00:41:31,830 --> 00:41:34,822
- Saudis?
- No comment on that.
575
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,797
Okay, I'll take that as a yes.
576
00:41:36,969 --> 00:41:38,334
Good. Thank you very much.
577
00:41:38,504 --> 00:41:41,166
It turns out that Saudi Prince Bandaris perhaps...
578
00:41:41,340 --> 00:41:43,604
... the best-protected ambassadorin the U.S.
579
00:41:43,776 --> 00:41:47,906
The U.S. State Department provideshim with a six-man security detail.
580
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,015
Considering how he and his familyand the Saudi elite...
581
00:41:51,183 --> 00:41:56,280
... own 7 percent of America,it's probably not a bad idea.
582
00:41:57,723 --> 00:41:59,953
Prince Bandar was so closeto the Bushes...
583
00:42:00,125 --> 00:42:02,525
... they considered him a memberof the family.
584
00:42:02,694 --> 00:42:05,993
They even had a nickname for him:Bandar Bush.
585
00:42:06,165 --> 00:42:10,534
Two nights after September 11 th,George Bush invited Bandar Bush...
586
00:42:10,702 --> 00:42:14,832
... over to the White Housefor a private dinner and a talk.
587
00:42:15,007 --> 00:42:17,635
Even though bin Ladenwas a Saudi...
588
00:42:17,810 --> 00:42:20,643
... and Saudi moneyhad funded al Qaeda...
589
00:42:20,813 --> 00:42:24,442
... and 15 of the 19 hijackerswere Saudis...
590
00:42:24,716 --> 00:42:28,447
... here was the Saudi ambassador,casually dining with the president...
591
00:42:28,620 --> 00:42:31,020
... on September 13th.
592
00:42:31,690 --> 00:42:34,352
What were they talking about?
593
00:42:34,526 --> 00:42:38,656
Were they commiseratingor comparing notes?
594
00:42:39,798 --> 00:42:41,857
Why would Bandar's government...
595
00:42:42,334 --> 00:42:45,667
... block American investigatorsfrom talking to the relatives...
596
00:42:45,838 --> 00:42:48,329
... of the 15 hijackers?
597
00:42:50,042 --> 00:42:52,272
Why would Saudi Arabiabecome reluctant...
598
00:42:52,444 --> 00:42:54,674
... to freeze the hijackers' assets?
599
00:42:58,317 --> 00:43:00,979
The two of them walked outon the Truman Balcony...
600
00:43:01,153 --> 00:43:04,645
... so that Bandar could smoke a cigarand have a drink.
601
00:43:05,090 --> 00:43:10,858
In the distance, across the Potomac,was the Pentagon, partially in ruins.
602
00:43:11,029 --> 00:43:15,159
I wonder if Mr. Bushtold Prince Bandar not to worry...
603
00:43:15,334 --> 00:43:19,031
... because he already had a planin motion.
604
00:43:20,005 --> 00:43:20,139
You come in September 12th...
605
00:43:20,139 --> 00:43:21,265
You come in September 12th...
606
00:43:23,108 --> 00:43:26,566
...to plot our response to al Qaeda.
Let me talk about the response...
607
00:43:26,745 --> 00:43:29,145
...you got from top administration
officials.
608
00:43:29,314 --> 00:43:31,748
On that day, what did the president
say to you?
609
00:43:31,917 --> 00:43:36,251
The president, in a very intimidating
way, left me and my staff...
610
00:43:36,421 --> 00:43:39,390
...with the clear indication
he wanted us to come back...
611
00:43:39,558 --> 00:43:42,584
...with the word that there was
an Iraqi hand behind 9l11.
612
00:43:42,761 --> 00:43:46,492
They planned to do something about
Iraq before they came into office.
613
00:43:46,665 --> 00:43:49,532
Did he ask about any other nations
other than Iraq?
614
00:43:49,701 --> 00:43:53,102
No, not at all. It was, "Iraq, Saddam,
find out, get back to me."
615
00:43:53,272 --> 00:43:55,866
Were his questions more about Iraq
than al Qaeda?
616
00:43:56,041 --> 00:43:58,305
Absolutely. He didn't ask me
about al Qaeda.
617
00:43:58,477 --> 00:44:01,446
And the reaction you got from
the defense secretary, Rumsfeld...
618
00:44:01,613 --> 00:44:04,013
...from his assistant, Paul Wolfowitz?
619
00:44:04,183 --> 00:44:06,651
Donald Rumsfeld said...
When we talked about bombing...
620
00:44:06,818 --> 00:44:09,013
...the al Qaeda infrastructure
in Afghanistan...
621
00:44:09,188 --> 00:44:11,713
...he said, "There are
no good targets in Afghanistan.
622
00:44:11,890 --> 00:44:13,118
Let's bomb Iraq."
623
00:44:13,292 --> 00:44:15,988
And we said, "But Iraq had nothing
to do with this."
624
00:44:16,161 --> 00:44:19,096
That didn't make much difference.
The reason they had...
625
00:44:19,264 --> 00:44:22,995
...to do Afghanistan first was, it was
obvious al Qaeda attacked us.
626
00:44:23,168 --> 00:44:26,069
And it was obvious that al Qaeda
was in Afghanistan.
627
00:44:26,238 --> 00:44:29,765
Americans wouldn't stand by
if we'd done nothing on Afghanistan.
628
00:44:46,258 --> 00:44:49,091
The United States began bombingAfghanistan...
629
00:44:49,261 --> 00:44:52,822
... just four weeks after 9/11.Mr. Bush said he was doing so...
630
00:44:52,998 --> 00:44:55,660
... because the Taliban governmentof Afghanistan...
631
00:44:55,834 --> 00:44:58,325
... had been harboring bin Laden.
632
00:44:59,338 --> 00:45:01,067
We will smoke them
out of their holes.
633
00:45:01,240 --> 00:45:02,605
We're gonna smoke them out.
634
00:45:02,774 --> 00:45:06,801
- We'll smoke him out of his cave.
- Let's rush them and smoke them out.
635
00:45:06,979 --> 00:45:11,678
For all his tough talk,Bush really didn't do much.
636
00:45:11,850 --> 00:45:14,842
Well, what they did was slow
and small.
637
00:45:15,020 --> 00:45:18,046
They put only 11,000 troops
into Afghanistan.
638
00:45:18,223 --> 00:45:20,282
There are more police here
in Manhattan.
639
00:45:20,459 --> 00:45:23,860
More in Manhattan than there are
U.S. Troops in Afghanistan.
640
00:45:24,029 --> 00:45:27,988
The president botched the response.
He should have gone after bin Laden.
641
00:45:28,166 --> 00:45:31,897
The U.S. Special Forces didn't get into
the area where bin Laden was...
642
00:45:32,070 --> 00:45:35,665
...for two months.
- Two months?
643
00:45:35,841 --> 00:45:38,366
A mass murderer who attackedthe United States...
644
00:45:38,543 --> 00:45:41,034
... was given a two-month head start?
645
00:45:41,213 --> 00:45:43,875
Who in their right mindwould do that?
646
00:45:44,049 --> 00:45:46,779
- Dang! Anybody say "nice shot"?
- Nice shot.
647
00:45:46,952 --> 00:45:48,510
Hell of a shot.
648
00:45:48,687 --> 00:45:52,350
Or was the war in Afghanistanreally about something else?
649
00:45:52,524 --> 00:45:56,051
Perhaps the answerwas in Houston, Texas.
650
00:45:58,664 --> 00:46:02,498
In 1997, while George W. Bushwas governor of Texas...
651
00:46:02,668 --> 00:46:06,900
... a delegation of Taliban leadersfrom Afghanistan flew to Houston...
652
00:46:07,072 --> 00:46:09,131
... to meet with Unocal executives...
653
00:46:09,308 --> 00:46:12,607
... to discuss the building of a pipelinethrough Afghanistan...
654
00:46:12,778 --> 00:46:15,804
... bringing natural gasfrom the Caspian Sea.
655
00:46:15,981 --> 00:46:18,472
And who got a Caspian Seadrilling contract...
656
00:46:18,650 --> 00:46:21,483
... the same day Unocalsigned the pipeline deal?
657
00:46:21,653 --> 00:46:25,521
A company headed by a mannamed Dick Cheney. Halliburton.
658
00:46:25,691 --> 00:46:27,852
From the point of view
of the U.S. Government...
659
00:46:29,461 --> 00:46:31,258
...this was kind of a magic pipeline...
660
00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:33,762
...because it could serve
so many purposes.
661
00:46:33,932 --> 00:46:37,299
And who else stood to benefitfrom the pipeline?
662
00:46:37,469 --> 00:46:40,768
Bush's number-one campaigncontributor, Kenneth Lay...
663
00:46:40,939 --> 00:46:43,407
... and the good people of Enron.
664
00:46:45,344 --> 00:46:47,574
Only the British presscovered this trip.
665
00:46:47,946 --> 00:46:51,575
Then in 2001, just five and a halfmonths before 9/11...
666
00:46:53,151 --> 00:46:55,619
... the Bush administration welcomeda Taliban envoy...
667
00:46:55,787 --> 00:46:57,345
... to tour the United States...
668
00:46:57,522 --> 00:47:00,389
... to help improve the imageof the Taliban government.
669
00:47:00,559 --> 00:47:04,120
You have imprisoned the women.
It's a horror, let me tell you.
670
00:47:04,296 --> 00:47:07,595
I'm sorry to your husband. He must
have a difficult time with you.
671
00:47:07,766 --> 00:47:10,564
Here is the Taliban officialvisiting our State Department...
672
00:47:12,137 --> 00:47:13,832
... to meet with U.S. Officials.
673
00:47:14,639 --> 00:47:17,870
Why would the Bush administrationallow a Taliban leader...
674
00:47:18,043 --> 00:47:21,069
... to visit the United States,knowing that the Taliban...
675
00:47:21,246 --> 00:47:24,545
... were harboring the manwho bombed the U.S.S. Cole...
676
00:47:24,716 --> 00:47:27,276
... and our African embassies?
677
00:47:27,452 --> 00:47:31,081
Well, I guess 9/11 put a stop to that.
678
00:47:31,256 --> 00:47:34,248
When the invasion of Afghanistanwas complete...
679
00:47:34,426 --> 00:47:37,759
... we installed its new president,Hamid Karzai.
680
00:47:37,929 --> 00:47:40,295
Who was Hamid Karzai?
681
00:47:40,465 --> 00:47:43,901
He was a former adviser to Unocal.
682
00:47:44,069 --> 00:47:47,061
Bush also appointed,as our envoy to Afghanistan...
683
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:52,802
... Zalmay Khalilzad, who was alsoa former Unocal adviser.
684
00:47:53,812 --> 00:47:57,578
I guess you can probably seewhere this is leading.
685
00:47:57,749 --> 00:48:01,014
Faster than you can say, "Black gold,Texas tea, " Afghanistan signed...
686
00:48:01,186 --> 00:48:03,586
... an agreement with herneighboring countries...
687
00:48:03,755 --> 00:48:08,852
... to build a pipeline carryingnatural gas from the Caspian Sea.
688
00:48:09,361 --> 00:48:11,352
Oh, and the Taliban?
689
00:48:12,297 --> 00:48:14,788
Oh, they mostly got away.
690
00:48:15,333 --> 00:48:18,598
As did Osama bin Ladenand most of al Qaeda.
691
00:48:19,070 --> 00:48:21,698
Terror is bigger than one person.
692
00:48:21,873 --> 00:48:26,173
And he's a person who's now
been marginalized.
693
00:48:26,344 --> 00:48:27,834
So I don't know where he is.
694
00:48:28,013 --> 00:48:31,312
I just don't spend that much time
on him, to be honest with you.
695
00:48:31,483 --> 00:48:35,442
Didn't spend much time on him?What kind of president was he?
696
00:48:35,754 --> 00:48:39,554
I'm a war president. I make decisions
here in the Oval Office...
697
00:48:39,724 --> 00:48:43,023
...in foreign policy matters
with war on my mind.
698
00:48:43,628 --> 00:48:47,120
With the war in Afghanistan overand bin Laden forgotten...
699
00:48:47,299 --> 00:48:49,893
... the war president hada new target:
700
00:48:52,103 --> 00:48:54,731
The American people.
701
00:48:58,009 --> 00:49:01,570
We've got an unusual terror warning
from the feds to tell you about.
702
00:49:01,746 --> 00:49:03,805
Fox News has obtained
an FBI bulletin...
703
00:49:03,982 --> 00:49:07,440
...that warns terrorists could use
pen guns, like in James Bond...
704
00:49:07,619 --> 00:49:09,644
...filled with poison.
- Good evening.
705
00:49:09,821 --> 00:49:13,382
America is on high alert tonight,
just four days before Christmas.
706
00:49:13,558 --> 00:49:17,995
- A possible terror threat.
- As bad as or worse than 9l11.
707
00:49:18,163 --> 00:49:21,758
But where? How?
There's nothing specific to report.
708
00:49:21,933 --> 00:49:25,869
Be on the lookout for model airplanes
packed with explosives.
709
00:49:27,572 --> 00:49:31,133
The FBI is warning ferries may be
considered particularly at risk...
710
00:49:31,309 --> 00:49:33,243
...for hijacking.
711
00:49:34,446 --> 00:49:37,643
Could these cattle be a target
for terrorists?
712
00:49:39,784 --> 00:49:41,308
- Fear works.
- Fear does work, yes.
713
00:49:44,289 --> 00:49:46,154
You can make people do anything
if they're afraid.
714
00:49:46,324 --> 00:49:48,087
And how do you make them afraid?
715
00:49:48,260 --> 00:49:53,926
Well, you make them afraid
by creating an aura of endless threat.
716
00:49:54,099 --> 00:49:55,691
They played us like an organ.
717
00:49:55,867 --> 00:50:00,736
They raised the orange, up to red,
then they dropped it back to orange.
718
00:50:00,906 --> 00:50:04,933
I mean, they gave these mixed
messages, which were crazy-making.
719
00:50:05,110 --> 00:50:08,477
The world is changed
after September the 11 th.
720
00:50:08,647 --> 00:50:10,979
It's changed because
we're no longer safe.
721
00:50:11,149 --> 00:50:15,381
Fly and enjoy America's
great destination spots.
722
00:50:15,554 --> 00:50:18,580
We have entered what may
prove to be the most dangerous...
723
00:50:18,757 --> 00:50:20,952
...security environment
the world's known.
724
00:50:21,126 --> 00:50:23,617
Take your families and enjoy life.
725
00:50:23,795 --> 00:50:26,025
Terrorists are doing everything
they can...
726
00:50:26,197 --> 00:50:28,495
...to gain even deadlier means
of striking us.
727
00:50:29,034 --> 00:50:32,868
- Go down to Disney World in Florida.
- It's like training a dog.
728
00:50:33,038 --> 00:50:36,872
You tell him sit down and roll over
at the same time, dog doesn't know...
729
00:50:37,042 --> 00:50:40,102
...what to do. American people
were being treated like that.
730
00:50:40,278 --> 00:50:45,181
It was very, very skillfully and ugly,
in what they did.
731
00:50:45,350 --> 00:50:47,784
We must stop the terror.
732
00:50:47,953 --> 00:50:54,358
I call upon all nations to do everything
they can to stop these terrorist killers.
733
00:50:55,093 --> 00:50:56,685
Thank you.
734
00:50:56,861 --> 00:50:58,089
Now watch this drive.
735
00:51:00,932 --> 00:51:02,797
All right. You give me another one.
736
00:51:03,101 --> 00:51:08,164
They will continue, in my view, as long
as this administration is in charge...
737
00:51:08,340 --> 00:51:12,572
...of every once in a while,
stimulating everybody to be afraid.
738
00:51:12,744 --> 00:51:14,177
Just in case you forgot.
739
00:51:14,346 --> 00:51:18,646
It's not gonna go down to green
or blue. It's never gonna get there.
740
00:51:18,817 --> 00:51:22,253
There clearly is no way
that anyone...
741
00:51:22,420 --> 00:51:25,719
...can live constantly on edge
like that.
742
00:51:25,890 --> 00:51:27,653
The reality facing
American families...
743
00:51:29,227 --> 00:51:31,320
...is they're not as safe
as they used to be.
744
00:51:31,496 --> 00:51:34,090
Drug dealers and users looking
for their next fix.
745
00:51:34,265 --> 00:51:37,291
Gangs who roam the streets
in search of their next victim.
746
00:51:37,469 --> 00:51:41,064
And the growing threat of terrorists
means the need for protection...
747
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,470
...is ever greater.
And now that protection is here.
748
00:51:44,643 --> 00:51:49,012
Zytech Engineering, LLC has
developed and tested a safe room...
749
00:51:49,180 --> 00:51:52,149
...finally affordable to the average
American citizen.
750
00:51:52,317 --> 00:51:56,083
Protection formerly obtainable
only by the wealthy or powerful.
751
00:51:56,254 --> 00:51:59,815
Heck, you can be sitting in here,
drinking your finest Bordeaux...
752
00:51:59,991 --> 00:52:04,155
...and enjoying life, while chaos
is erupting outside.
753
00:52:04,529 --> 00:52:07,623
Every family in America
should prepare itself...
754
00:52:07,799 --> 00:52:09,562
...for a terrorist attack.
755
00:52:10,035 --> 00:52:13,562
Now to escaping from a skyscraper.
John Rivers is the CEO...
756
00:52:13,738 --> 00:52:18,038
...of the Executive Chute Corporation.
Good morning to you, John.
757
00:52:18,209 --> 00:52:21,269
- Good morning, Matt.
- Tell me about the product.
758
00:52:21,446 --> 00:52:25,542
It's an emergency escape chute.
It's an option of last resort.
759
00:52:25,717 --> 00:52:27,742
How high do you have to be
in the building...
760
00:52:27,919 --> 00:52:30,547
...for that chute to actually
take effect?
761
00:52:30,722 --> 00:52:33,520
You only have to be on the 10th floor
or above.
762
00:52:33,692 --> 00:52:35,717
They can put this on themselves?
763
00:52:35,894 --> 00:52:38,294
Right. They can put this on
themselves in as easy...
764
00:52:38,463 --> 00:52:41,591
...as about 30 seconds.
It's real easy to put on.
765
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,331
- Here.
- Sorry.
766
00:52:43,501 --> 00:52:47,028
That's okay. Real easy to put on,
but...
767
00:52:48,206 --> 00:52:51,437
When you first get this chute,
you're gonna wanna put it on...
768
00:52:51,609 --> 00:52:55,375
...and try it on a few times yourself.
- Jaime's having trouble putting that on.
769
00:52:55,547 --> 00:52:59,950
Is this something that you honestly
think, in a moment of panic...
770
00:53:00,118 --> 00:53:03,417
...that someone can operate
properly?
771
00:53:03,588 --> 00:53:07,217
Oh, yeah. It is. This is actually...
Jamie's probably never...
772
00:53:07,392 --> 00:53:09,622
...put this thing on before in her life.
773
00:53:10,428 --> 00:53:13,090
It's okay. It's something that,
when you get it...
774
00:53:13,264 --> 00:53:15,664
...you're gonna wanna put it on
several times.
775
00:53:15,834 --> 00:53:19,497
Despite the raising of the terror alert
level, residents here continue...
776
00:53:19,671 --> 00:53:21,468
...with their Christmas errands.
777
00:53:21,639 --> 00:53:24,870
Frances and her family do some
last-minute holiday shopping...
778
00:53:25,043 --> 00:53:27,477
...knowing al Qaeda is planning
to attack.
779
00:53:27,645 --> 00:53:30,808
She says being in Saginaw doesn't
make her feel any safer...
780
00:53:30,982 --> 00:53:33,007
...than if she was in New York City.
781
00:53:33,184 --> 00:53:34,412
Midland is close by...
782
00:53:35,987 --> 00:53:38,012
...and I said,
"Detroit's not that far away."
783
00:53:38,189 --> 00:53:42,148
I said, "That could be something...
And Flint could be something... Be...
784
00:53:42,327 --> 00:53:45,262
...concerns for people around here."
- You never know...
785
00:53:45,430 --> 00:53:47,455
...where they're gonna hit.
Never know.
786
00:53:47,632 --> 00:53:50,760
But one potential target specifically
mentioned by the terrorists...
787
00:53:50,935 --> 00:53:55,269
...has security officials baffled.
It's tiny Tappahannock, Virginia...
788
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,101
...population, 2016.
789
00:53:57,275 --> 00:54:00,403
Such an attack could generate
widespread fear...
790
00:54:00,578 --> 00:54:05,982
...that even here in rural, small-town
America, no one is entirely safe.
791
00:54:07,552 --> 00:54:09,986
On the news there was
an alert in Tappahannock.
792
00:54:10,355 --> 00:54:13,188
- What did the FBI tell you?
- Well, they contacted me by phone.
793
00:54:14,826 --> 00:54:17,624
Basically let me know about this,
were it Tappahannock.
794
00:54:17,796 --> 00:54:21,562
- That's how it started.
- In the so-called chatter they pick up...
795
00:54:21,733 --> 00:54:25,191
...they wasn't sure Tappahannock.
There's a Rappahannock County...
796
00:54:25,370 --> 00:54:28,271
...Rappahannock River.
- There is a Rappahannock...
797
00:54:28,439 --> 00:54:31,033
A place called Rappahannock.
They got it mixed up.
798
00:54:31,743 --> 00:54:34,211
This is Tappahannock,
not Rappahannock.
799
00:54:34,379 --> 00:54:37,507
- Is there any target around here?
- Not that we can think of.
800
00:54:37,682 --> 00:54:39,547
- It can happen anywhere.
- Wal-Mart.
801
00:54:39,717 --> 00:54:41,685
A big spaghetti supper in here.
802
00:54:41,853 --> 00:54:43,150
Wal-Mart, probably.
803
00:54:43,321 --> 00:54:45,721
Do you feel extra suspicious
of outsiders?
804
00:54:45,890 --> 00:54:47,949
Oh, everybody does that.
805
00:54:48,126 --> 00:54:50,026
That's just something that happens.
806
00:54:50,195 --> 00:54:53,653
When I look at certain people,
I wonder, "Oh, my goodness.
807
00:54:53,832 --> 00:54:55,993
Do you think they could be
a terrorist?"
808
00:54:56,167 --> 00:54:58,294
- Never know what's gonna happen.
- Right.
809
00:54:58,469 --> 00:54:59,936
It could happen right now.
810
00:55:00,872 --> 00:55:03,397
Never trust nobody you don't know.
811
00:55:04,209 --> 00:55:07,872
And even if you do know them,
you really can't trust them then.
812
00:55:08,246 --> 00:55:11,238
From Tappahannockto Rappahannock...
813
00:55:11,416 --> 00:55:16,080
... to every town and village inAmerica, the people were afraid.
814
00:55:16,521 --> 00:55:19,012
And they turned to their leaderto protect them.
815
00:55:19,190 --> 00:55:22,455
But protect them from what?
816
00:55:47,852 --> 00:55:50,082
Meet John Ashcroft.
817
00:55:50,255 --> 00:55:54,692
In 2000, he was running forre-election as senator for Missouri...
818
00:55:54,859 --> 00:55:59,023
... against a man who diedthe month before the election.
819
00:55:59,197 --> 00:56:02,257
The voters preferred the dead guy.
820
00:56:02,433 --> 00:56:07,063
So George W. Bush made himhis attorney general.
821
00:56:07,238 --> 00:56:09,604
He was sworn in on a stackof Bibles.
822
00:56:09,774 --> 00:56:11,901
Because when you can't beata dead guy...
823
00:56:12,076 --> 00:56:14,374
... you need all the help you can get.
824
00:56:14,545 --> 00:56:16,570
During the summer before 9/11...
825
00:56:16,748 --> 00:56:19,740
... Ashcroft told acting FBI director,Thomas Pickard...
826
00:56:19,918 --> 00:56:23,615
... that he didn't want to hearanything more about terrorist threats.
827
00:56:23,788 --> 00:56:28,054
Mr. Watson had come to you and said
that the CIA was very concerned...
828
00:56:28,226 --> 00:56:30,194
...that there would be an attack.
829
00:56:30,361 --> 00:56:34,764
You said that you told the attorney
general this fact repeatedly...
830
00:56:34,933 --> 00:56:36,924
...in these meetings. That correct?
831
00:56:37,101 --> 00:56:38,898
I've told him at least
on two occasions.
832
00:56:40,471 --> 00:56:43,133
And you told the staff,
according to this statement...
833
00:56:43,308 --> 00:56:47,972
...Mr. Ashcroft told you that he did not
want to hear about this anymore.
834
00:56:48,146 --> 00:56:50,842
- Is that correct?
- That is correct.
835
00:56:51,015 --> 00:56:54,416
His own FBI knew that summerthere were al Qaeda members...
836
00:56:54,585 --> 00:56:58,544
... in the U.S. And bin Laden wassending his agents to flight schools...
837
00:56:58,723 --> 00:57:00,350
... around the country.
838
00:57:00,525 --> 00:57:04,052
But Ashcroft's Justice Departmentturned a blind eye...
839
00:57:04,228 --> 00:57:05,695
... and a deaf ear.
840
00:57:05,863 --> 00:57:10,095
But after 9/11, John Ashcrofthad some brilliant ideas...
841
00:57:10,268 --> 00:57:12,202
... for how to protect America.
842
00:57:12,370 --> 00:57:15,032
The Patriot Act, adopted by Congress
and signed by Bush...
843
00:57:15,206 --> 00:57:16,901
...six weeks after the attacks...
844
00:57:17,075 --> 00:57:19,475
...has changed the way
the government does business.
845
00:57:19,644 --> 00:57:23,944
The Patriot Act allows for searches
of medical and financial records...
846
00:57:24,115 --> 00:57:26,276
...computer and telephone
conversations...
847
00:57:26,451 --> 00:57:30,478
...even for the books you take out of
the library. But people we spoke to...
848
00:57:30,655 --> 00:57:33,988
...say they're willing to give up
liberties to fight terrorism.
849
00:57:34,158 --> 00:57:38,492
- Maybe that's a good thing.
- It's sad, but it has to be done.
850
00:57:38,663 --> 00:57:42,224
Yes, something needed to be done.
851
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,733
These are the good peoplewho make up Peace Fresno.
852
00:57:45,903 --> 00:57:48,963
A community groupin Fresno, California.
853
00:57:49,407 --> 00:57:52,843
Unlike the rest of us,they received an early lesson...
854
00:57:53,011 --> 00:57:55,741
... in what the Patriot Act is all about.
855
00:57:55,913 --> 00:58:00,247
Each week, they meet to discussmatters of peace.
856
00:58:00,418 --> 00:58:05,788
They sit around, they share stories,they eat cookies.
857
00:58:05,957 --> 00:58:08,551
Some have more than one.
858
00:58:09,527 --> 00:58:13,190
This is Aaron Stokes,a member of Peace Fresno.
859
00:58:13,765 --> 00:58:15,357
The other members liked him.
860
00:58:15,533 --> 00:58:18,263
He had come to the meetings,
he went with us.
861
00:58:18,436 --> 00:58:22,372
We go out on Friday nights and stand
on a very busy corner in Fresno.
862
00:58:22,540 --> 00:58:25,668
And he had gone with us,
he had handed out fliers.
863
00:58:25,843 --> 00:58:29,973
He went with us in June
to a WTO protest.
864
00:58:30,148 --> 00:58:33,049
Then one day, Aaron didn't show upto the meeting.
865
00:58:33,217 --> 00:58:36,550
My friend Dan and I were reading
the Sunday newspaper...
866
00:58:36,721 --> 00:58:40,384
...and when I picked up the paper,
in the local section...
867
00:58:40,558 --> 00:58:42,287
...Aaron's picture caught my eye.
868
00:58:42,460 --> 00:58:45,520
The article said that a sheriff's deputy
had been killed...
869
00:58:45,696 --> 00:58:49,223
...and I saw it had a name
that wasn't the right name...
870
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:54,770
...that said that he was a member
of the sheriff's antiterrorism unit.
871
00:58:54,939 --> 00:58:56,304
That's right.
872
00:58:56,474 --> 00:58:59,034
The photo of the manin the newspaper...
873
00:58:59,243 --> 00:59:02,542
... was not the Aaron Stokesthey had come to know.
874
00:59:02,713 --> 00:59:09,175
He was actually Deputy Aaron Kilner,and he had infiltrated their group.
875
00:59:09,353 --> 00:59:12,049
Sheriff Pierce made it very clear
that, yes...
876
00:59:12,223 --> 00:59:15,283
...Aaron Kilner was assigned
to infiltrate Peace Fresno...
877
00:59:15,460 --> 00:59:18,691
...that he was able to infiltrate
organizations...
878
00:59:18,863 --> 00:59:20,626
...that are open to the public.
879
00:59:21,032 --> 00:59:23,728
You could understand why the policeneeded to spy...
880
00:59:23,901 --> 00:59:25,664
... on a group like Peace Fresno.
881
00:59:26,003 --> 00:59:27,698
Just look at them.
882
00:59:28,940 --> 00:59:32,501
A gathering of terroristsif I ever saw one.
883
00:59:33,144 --> 00:59:36,136
This is Barry Reingold,a retired phone worker...
884
00:59:36,314 --> 00:59:38,839
... from Oakland, California.
885
00:59:39,016 --> 00:59:41,951
Barry likes to work out in the gym.
886
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,453
Somewhere between his cardioand his strength training...
887
00:59:45,623 --> 00:59:48,114
... Barry got political.
888
00:59:48,292 --> 00:59:51,921
We were up in the gym,
and it was after we were working out...
889
00:59:52,096 --> 00:59:55,964
...and a number of us were talking
about 9l11 and Afghanistan...
890
00:59:56,134 --> 01:00:00,503
...and bin Laden, and someone said,
"Bin Laden's a real asshole...
891
01:00:00,671 --> 01:00:04,004
...for murdering those people."
And I said, "Yeah, that's true.
892
01:00:04,175 --> 01:00:07,736
But he'll never be as big
an asshole as Bush...
893
01:00:07,912 --> 01:00:10,506
...who bombs all over the world
for oil profits."
894
01:00:10,681 --> 01:00:14,412
Barry didn't have to worryabout the police spying on him.
895
01:00:14,819 --> 01:00:18,516
His fellow weightlifterswere more than willing to turn him in.
896
01:00:18,689 --> 01:00:23,490
I was taking a nap, and I guess
it was 1:30, 2:00 in the afternoon.
897
01:00:23,661 --> 01:00:27,722
And they came to my place,
and I said, "Well, who's there?"
898
01:00:27,899 --> 01:00:32,802
And they said, "The FBI."
I said, "The FBI? Why are they here?"
899
01:00:32,970 --> 01:00:38,306
Yes, the FBI had come to see Barry.And they weren't there to Jazzercise.
900
01:00:38,476 --> 01:00:44,312
The FBI said, "Have you been talking
to people about 9l11 and bin Laden...
901
01:00:44,482 --> 01:00:48,942
...and oil profits and Afghanistan?"
I said, "A lot of people are talking...
902
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:50,917
...about these things."
903
01:00:51,088 --> 01:00:55,024
I feel my rights have been,
you know, trampled on.
904
01:00:55,193 --> 01:00:59,323
I mean, if you have something to say
to me in the gym, well, then, fine.
905
01:00:59,497 --> 01:01:04,560
Don't tell the FBI, and they come to
my apartment while I'm taking a nap.
906
01:01:05,305 --> 01:01:11,247
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