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These days, to kind of be
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an iconic scene
in a horror movie,
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you kind of have
to think of it as,
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what would the animated GIF be?
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Jack Nicholson
axing through a door,
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putting his face in,
and saying, "Here's Johnny."
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Here's Johnny.
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Even if they've
never seen the movie,
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they could just go,
"That's 'The Shining.'"
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And that's what makes it iconic.
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It's something
that permeates culture
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even for people that don't even
know where it's from.
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That iconic line of dialogue...
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What's your favorite
scary movie?
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That iconic death...
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It's all for you.
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That iconic special effect...
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It's those movies
that really stick with you.
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There is no other genre
that you feel that presence,
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you feel
that memory of the movie
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sticking with you.
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"A Quiet Place" is
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a very scary
postapocalyptic movie
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in which aliens come to Earth
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and they are attracted to sound.
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And if you make a sound,
they're going to kill you.
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It's a pretty simple premise,
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but it's
a really horrifying premise.
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And the first few seconds,
you know
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you're watching something
you've never seen before.
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It's fresh and new and strange.
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You don't know
what the monsters are.
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What-- why are they--
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postapocalyptic, I get it.
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They're in a supermarket.
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Like, there's no humans.
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I didn't know
going into that movie
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what was the threat.
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Whatever it was, it was clear
that you shouldn't be loud.
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What's so great about that movie
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is that it plays with sound
in such a memorable way,
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because you go from the world
the parents are experiencing--
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they have to keep quiet--
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but then you also keep going
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into the world of their daughter
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who can't hear anything,
so it's completely quiet.
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You can't hear a noise at all.
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There is a little boy,
and he finds this rocket ship.
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And he wants
to take it with him,
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but the parents are like,
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"No, that's gonna make a noise.
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You can't take that with you."
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But then his sister lets him
keep the rocket ship.
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At the end of that first scene,
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which sets everything up,
is when you see
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that the little kids grab
the batteries,
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and you know
it's not gonna be good.
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But you never expect it's gonna
be executed the way it is.
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So at some point,
she just looks and sees
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that her brother has this rocket
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and the rocket is lighting up.
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And she knows that things
are going horribly wrong
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and it's in part her fault.
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So it's this horrifying moment
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where John Krasinski is, like,
running and trying
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to get to it-- to his son.
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But having seen
a billion horror movies,
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you probably assume
he's gonna save the kid.
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You're convinced
he's gonna save the kid.
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How is he not gonna save
the kid?
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He's gonna save the kid.
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He's running. He's fast.
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He's gonna get him.
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The whole family's freaking out,
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but they seem like
they have a plan.
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They have the sand on the floor.
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They have shit figured out.
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So how can the kid be taken?
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So just like that,
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years of horror tropes
make a sharp turn,
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and bang,
the kid's actually taken.
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And that's what's shocking
about it.
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When a kid got killed in a movie
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in the '70s or even in the '80s,
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it was a lot more taboo.
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But now in terms
of a lot of the material
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that's being created,
a lot of it's being told
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through the perspective of kids.
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Because the stories
are cashing in
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on that vulnerability.
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You gotta find the person
that's vulnerable.
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And then that person
that's vulnerable
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is the one that's
going to be terrorized.
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This is the autopsy
of an unidentified female
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henceforth known as Jane Doe.
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"The Autopsy of Jane Doe"
stars Brian Cox
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and Emile Hirsch as
a father-son coroner team.
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And a body is brought in.
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Found her in the basement
of the Douglas' place.
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No ID.
No fingerprints in the system.
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No one has a clue who she is.
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A young woman.
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She's completely unscathed
from the outside.
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And that's a bit of a mystery
because she's been found
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at a horrific crime scene.
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It becomes
almost like a detective story
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where they're finding out
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all of these weird
inconsistencies about the body
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and trying to paint
a bigger picture
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about what's going on.
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But at the same time,
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these supernatural instances
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are starting to occur
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in the morgue around them.
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A great idea.
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And shot really well.
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It looks like
a Japanese horror movie.
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It looks like
Korean horror movie.
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That's the saturated
color palette
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and the claustrophobia
of the setting.
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She never moves, and even though
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the corpse never moves,
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it still seems
to kind of respond
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in these really subtle ways.
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You know, it's a lot
like Japanese films
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where the ghost is incarnate,
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but it is working
through other means.
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It's working psychologically
in particular.
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♪ Come on and let
the sunshine in ♪
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And it's always
with one tiny thing
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marking that
something's off now.
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The song coming on the radio.
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A noise. The lights flashing.
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The power going out.
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And that always then sets off
a course of events
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that are gonna get
downright terrifying.
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As they start to cut her open
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and look inside,
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they see all of these signs
of extensive trauma
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inside of her body.
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Her lungs are blackened
like she burned to death
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and inhaled smoke and soot,
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but at the same time,
there's no burn marks
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on the exterior.
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And it goes from there
until you get
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into some really weird stuff,
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like a swallowed tooth
wrapped in cloth in her stomach
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as well as jimsonweed,
meaning she was paralyzed,
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so all this stuff was
done to her
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while she was still alive.
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What we end up watching
a lot of the time
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is not necessarily the autopsy.
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It's their findings.
It's them interacting.
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It's them
writing on a chalkboard
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trying to make sense
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of everything
that they're learning.
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It was so mysterious.
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But to me,
the most amazing thing is
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when they peel the skin open
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and there's hieroglyphics
inside her skin.
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How did that get there?
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And it's so weird
and beautiful and striking.
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Holy shit.
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That scene in "Jane Doe"
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will stick with me forever.
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And that's what leads up to some
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of the most harrowing scenes
in the film.
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They try everything they can
to destroy her,
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and you can try to burn her.
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It doesn't work.
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You know,
they're even cutting her up.
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That doesn't work.
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Terrible things
still keep happening.
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Because that trauma is so large
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that it keeps resonating
through the years
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and across centuries.
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Please. Don't hurt him.
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Dad!
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Dad!
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I don't think anyone knows
the plot of "Phantasm,"
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including Don Coscarelli
who made the movie.
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"Phantasm" is like a fun house.
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There's something
around every corner.
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You don't know what it is.
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You don't know
what the rules are.
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At one point,
it goes to another dimension.
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It's seriously a movie
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that just makes up the rules
as it goes.
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And for some people,
that's very annoying.
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And for other people,
that's very exciting.
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I couldn't explain to you
exactly what's going on or why,
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but it all feels like it makes
absolute sense to me.
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It was all in your mind.
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I think what sells it--
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what sells the strangeness
of the plotting...
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The Tall Man, Angus Scrimm,
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is this menacing presence.
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The funeral is
about to begin, sir.
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And he's the mystery figure
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as seen
through a little boy's eyes.
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Boy.
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There are so many people
that just--
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"Boy" upsets them deeply, right?
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"Boy."
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All the sudden, even if you're
an adult watching this,
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you are put into the position
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of being a child and in trouble.
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Boy.
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Like, that's a villain,
you know?
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It's a way he utters a word
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which, you know, bothers people
for life.
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Because it's not super clear
why he's here,
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it's not super clear
what he's about to do to you.
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It's just the kind of thing
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that children's nightmares
are made of.
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Movies are dreamlike anyway.
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It's dream within a dream
within a dream.
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You have a forbidden place
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that the main characters go to
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that's a mausoleum-type
environment,
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so it's full of dead people.
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It's also full
of a flying silver sphere
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that attacks you and burrows
into your forehead
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and causes blood
to spurt out of your body.
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Why is the flying sphere there?
I don't know.
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But it's part of the menace
of the forbidden mortuary.
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The spheres are amazing.
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I'm not exactly sure
how they got the effects
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of them shooting
through the halls.
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But they're really scary
and they're really imaginative
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and they're like nothing
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anybody would have seen in 1979.
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My God.
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That's one of those great things
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'cause you don't know
what it's gonna do.
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What is this weird sphere?
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What's it gonna do
when it catches up to you?
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And then it just fucking drills
all the blood out of your body?
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That's so cool.
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There was just something cool
about the way it was shot.
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It just had a lot of cool stuff.
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They had a cool car.
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So it was two guys
in a graveyard,
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a tall man, and a ball
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that could suck blood
out of your head.
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On the cool factor,
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"Phantasm" is up there
pretty high.
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"Ju-On" is almost kind of like
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an urban legend put on film.
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It's an anthology where you have
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this ghostly presence
in a neighborhood
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that's born from deep trauma.
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Because in Japan, the way
that the dead are thought of
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is very different
than it is here.
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In Japan, it's sort of like
these are your ancestors.
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They're all
sort of bound together
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and they have to take care
of each other,
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and so when something goes wrong
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and that chain gets broken,
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then that person
literally can't leave.
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They're stuck with you.
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It's almost like
a disease following you.
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Ghosts, oftentimes
in Japanese, Hong Kong,
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South Korean horror,
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they can take on
a physical form.
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It makes it difficult
to determine
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what is and what is not a ghost.
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That can be
particularly alarming
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as you go about
your everyday life.
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Especially if you live alone
in, like, an apartment building
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or if you're working
in an office building,
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you have to watch out
273
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because the ghosts
could pop up anywhere.
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They can show up in windows...
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When you're out
doing your business...
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"Ju-On" exploits that
really well
277
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because there is
a very creepy ghost boy
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who turns up when you really
don't want him to.
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So there's a young woman,
of course,
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who winds up falling
under the hex of this grudge,
281
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and in the scene
that really traumatized
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all of us
when we saw this movie,
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she keeps being followed by it.
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She first encounters it
in the bathroom.
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Then she asks
the security guard for help.
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And I think it's notable,
287
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one of the times
that she sees the ghost
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is on a security camera screen.
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One of the sort of
interesting features
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about so many
of the Japanese horror films
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is this persistent anxiety
about technology
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or technology as this conduit
to which we can see spirits
293
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and spirits can get to us.
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As she is moving on the elevator
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and you see Toshio's face
coming out from the window.
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It's that idea of repetition.
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You know, these characters
who are stuck,
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and then this character
who is now
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gonna be stuck with them.
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And then the movie really
hits on a primal fear,
301
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and that's
something invading your bed.
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That's when she crawls into bed
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and she thinks that she's
actually evaded this thing,
304
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and she sees something moving
under the sheets.
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And of course,
she pulls it back,
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and just the face
sort of staring at her
307
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from under the sheets,
it scares her to death
308
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and the audience too
at the same time.
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The very idea that you can be
in your own bed
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and something can
come up at you,
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that's horrifying.
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We think about things
coming out of our closets.
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We think about things
under our bed.
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But it's not as often we think
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about the scary things
under our sheets.
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So to have that image,
that face coming out at you,
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is part of what makes
this film so chilling.
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Some of these scares
are always best supported
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by the larger points
of the movie,
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and "The Grudge" is one
of lingering trauma.
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You can't escape her
because you can't escape
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these terrible things
that happened in life
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that will always have a hold
on the people they affected
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and even, like, go out
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into the world and affect others
326
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because these acts were
so terrible
327
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and they were such examples
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of humans being so terrible
to each other...
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That it has, like, ripples
330
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through the supernatural,
which is pretty heavy.
331
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Hello?
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Have you checked the children?
333
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Who is this?
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"When a Stranger Calls"
is on every horror fan's list.
335
00:14:28,171 --> 00:14:29,868
And it's because
of that opening--
336
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opening 20 minutes
with Carol Kane.
337
00:14:32,436 --> 00:14:34,829
The movie starts
with this babysitter,
338
00:14:34,873 --> 00:14:38,224
and she's in this big,
giant house alone,
339
00:14:38,268 --> 00:14:40,748
and the kids are asleep
upstairs,
340
00:14:40,792 --> 00:14:41,793
and the phone rings.
341
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Hello?
342
00:14:45,710 --> 00:14:48,234
And it's this
sort of creepy voice,
343
00:14:48,278 --> 00:14:51,020
and he keeps calling her,
asking her...
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Have you checked the children?
345
00:14:53,109 --> 00:14:54,937
What?
- That's weird.
346
00:14:54,980 --> 00:14:56,982
And I feel weird
listening to him say that.
347
00:14:57,026 --> 00:14:59,637
But lots of people got
crank phone calls in the '70s.
348
00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,856
I was actually ten and I got
an obscene phone call.
349
00:15:01,900 --> 00:15:03,573
At first she's like,
"It's a crank caller.
350
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It's some guy
from school."
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Like, she doesn't know
who it is.
352
00:15:06,383 --> 00:15:08,385
But obviously,
it's a little creepy.
353
00:15:08,428 --> 00:15:10,102
And then the more she's there
354
00:15:10,126 --> 00:15:12,824
and the more this guy calls,
the creepier it gets.
355
00:15:12,867 --> 00:15:15,783
What this scene does
that is so smart is,
356
00:15:15,827 --> 00:15:18,395
the way that it is filmed,
it is letting you feel
357
00:15:18,438 --> 00:15:20,745
like danger is
behind every corner
358
00:15:20,788 --> 00:15:23,139
without ever indicating it.
359
00:15:23,182 --> 00:15:25,445
It's using
these incredibly deep shots
360
00:15:25,489 --> 00:15:27,404
as we go through these hallways,
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as we go through this foyer
of this house.
362
00:15:30,015 --> 00:15:32,496
So she might be in the middle
of the foyer,
363
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looking up the stairs
or looking out a window,
364
00:15:35,238 --> 00:15:37,240
but what we're feeling
behind her is
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00:15:37,283 --> 00:15:40,025
a really dark living room
with really heavy drapes
366
00:15:40,069 --> 00:15:41,176
and a bajillion different places
367
00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:42,332
a killer could hide.
368
00:15:42,375 --> 00:15:43,613
Eventually,
she gets so freaked out,
369
00:15:43,637 --> 00:15:45,291
she calls the police.
370
00:15:45,335 --> 00:15:48,381
I've been getting phone calls
about every 15 minutes.
371
00:15:48,425 --> 00:15:50,122
And the police
don't totally take her
372
00:15:50,166 --> 00:15:51,515
seriously at first.
373
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At some point they're like,
"You know what?
374
00:15:52,646 --> 00:15:54,170
"We'll trace the call for you.
375
00:15:54,213 --> 00:15:56,191
So the next time he calls,
just keep him on the line."
376
00:15:56,215 --> 00:15:58,565
It's me.
- Can you see me?
377
00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,047
Yes.
378
00:16:02,091 --> 00:16:05,050
That voyeurism is
a huge part of horror.
379
00:16:05,094 --> 00:16:07,139
It's the idea that we don't know
380
00:16:07,183 --> 00:16:08,488
when we're being watched.
381
00:16:08,532 --> 00:16:09,857
She's like,
"Fine. You know what?
382
00:16:09,881 --> 00:16:12,057
"You scared me.
You did it. You scared me.
383
00:16:12,101 --> 00:16:13,904
Is that what-- was that
what you wanted to do?"
384
00:16:13,928 --> 00:16:16,018
And he says no, and she's like,
"What do you want?"
385
00:16:16,061 --> 00:16:17,671
And he says...
386
00:16:17,715 --> 00:16:21,153
Your blood...
387
00:16:21,197 --> 00:16:23,590
all over me.
388
00:16:23,634 --> 00:16:26,245
And it is said so plain as day
389
00:16:26,289 --> 00:16:28,813
but just so terrifying.
390
00:16:28,856 --> 00:16:31,555
It sends chills
when you hear it in the film.
391
00:16:31,598 --> 00:16:34,079
The way the sound is done
is so brilliant,
392
00:16:34,123 --> 00:16:36,168
watching it
now that I make movies.
393
00:16:36,212 --> 00:16:37,604
His voice is very present,
394
00:16:37,648 --> 00:16:39,476
so you feel
like he's right there.
395
00:16:39,519 --> 00:16:43,088
Your blood...
396
00:16:43,132 --> 00:16:45,090
all over me.
397
00:16:45,134 --> 00:16:47,092
Come to find out,
he is right there.
398
00:16:47,136 --> 00:16:49,094
He's upstairs with the children.
399
00:16:49,138 --> 00:16:50,748
Because the next thing
that happens is,
400
00:16:50,791 --> 00:16:53,533
she hangs up the phone,
the police call her back,
401
00:16:53,577 --> 00:16:55,579
and they say...
- We've traced the call,
402
00:16:55,622 --> 00:16:57,537
and it's coming
from inside the house.
403
00:16:57,581 --> 00:16:59,626
So this whole time,
she's actually been
404
00:16:59,670 --> 00:17:02,368
in the house with this person
who's terrorizing her.
405
00:17:02,412 --> 00:17:05,763
She's even more unsafe
than we thought she was.
406
00:17:05,805 --> 00:17:07,939
And it's a chilling,
chilling moment.
407
00:17:07,982 --> 00:17:09,593
She runs to the door
408
00:17:09,636 --> 00:17:11,005
and the door upstairs
starts to creak open,
409
00:17:11,029 --> 00:17:12,465
and she can't get
the door unlocked,
410
00:17:12,508 --> 00:17:13,963
and it's just this great
horror movie scene
411
00:17:13,987 --> 00:17:15,096
where she's trying to escape
now that she knows
412
00:17:15,120 --> 00:17:16,339
that she's been in danger
413
00:17:16,382 --> 00:17:18,602
for 20-some odd minutes
of this movie.
414
00:17:18,645 --> 00:17:20,995
It gets this
kind of crescendo of fear,
415
00:17:21,039 --> 00:17:23,171
that every time I watch it--
416
00:17:23,215 --> 00:17:25,130
and I've seen this film
several times now--
417
00:17:25,174 --> 00:17:27,611
I never stop feeling tense
418
00:17:27,654 --> 00:17:30,004
even though I know exactly
what's happening in that scene.
419
00:17:30,048 --> 00:17:32,485
To be honest,
the rest of the movie
420
00:17:32,529 --> 00:17:34,835
is kind of a slog
to get through.
421
00:17:34,879 --> 00:17:36,968
But that first 20 minutes--
422
00:17:37,011 --> 00:17:41,059
that cold open is
next-level tension.
423
00:17:41,103 --> 00:17:43,975
Why haven't you checked
the children?
424
00:17:57,902 --> 00:18:00,818
You can suck it. Suck it.
- Listen, you pervert.
425
00:18:00,861 --> 00:18:02,230
Why don't you go
over to Lambda Chi?
426
00:18:02,254 --> 00:18:03,449
They could use a little of this.
427
00:18:03,473 --> 00:18:05,562
You big cunt.
428
00:18:05,605 --> 00:18:07,868
You fucking creep.
429
00:18:07,912 --> 00:18:10,175
I'm going to kill you.
430
00:18:12,830 --> 00:18:14,919
Bob Clark is fascinating to me
431
00:18:14,962 --> 00:18:16,616
He made
the two best Christmas movies
432
00:18:16,660 --> 00:18:18,183
of all time, I'd argue.
433
00:18:18,227 --> 00:18:19,880
"A Christmas Story,"
which you can watch
434
00:18:19,924 --> 00:18:22,274
with your family and get
all warm and fuzzy about.
435
00:18:22,318 --> 00:18:24,189
And then after everyone else
has gone to bed,
436
00:18:24,233 --> 00:18:26,757
you and your more sort of
depraved relatives or friends
437
00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,411
can watch "Black Christmas,"
which is
438
00:18:28,454 --> 00:18:30,326
the scariest Christmas movie
ever made.
439
00:18:30,369 --> 00:18:33,372
I was a kid when I saw it,
and it's just fantastic.
440
00:18:33,416 --> 00:18:35,244
But the thing
that I will always remember
441
00:18:35,287 --> 00:18:38,725
was the amazing
killer's POV stuff,
442
00:18:38,769 --> 00:18:40,727
which boggled my mind.
443
00:18:40,771 --> 00:18:43,904
It was a handheld fish-eye lens,
444
00:18:43,948 --> 00:18:47,256
and you're watching him
or her-- I assume it's a him,
445
00:18:47,299 --> 00:18:49,823
'cause you never find out
for sure--
446
00:18:49,867 --> 00:18:51,477
kind of wandering around
watching people.
447
00:18:51,521 --> 00:18:53,827
And he climbs a ladder
at some point.
448
00:18:53,871 --> 00:18:55,481
And the thing
that really cements it
449
00:18:55,525 --> 00:18:57,831
is the terrifying breathing.
450
00:19:01,966 --> 00:19:03,489
He's got
this horrible phlegmy...
451
00:19:11,584 --> 00:19:13,258
I don't know if it's
a residual from my childhood,
452
00:19:13,282 --> 00:19:16,372
but I watch it today
and it still freaks me out.
453
00:19:16,415 --> 00:19:18,548
One of the first
on-camera kills that we see
454
00:19:18,591 --> 00:19:21,855
is sorority girl Clare.
455
00:19:21,899 --> 00:19:22,963
She's packing up, getting ready
456
00:19:22,987 --> 00:19:24,467
to go home for Christmas.
457
00:19:24,510 --> 00:19:26,096
Her dad's gonna pick her up
the next day.
458
00:19:26,120 --> 00:19:28,819
And the sorority house
is thinning out slowly
459
00:19:28,862 --> 00:19:31,256
as everybody's leaving
for the holidays.
460
00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,923
Who is that? Who is it?
461
00:19:57,239 --> 00:20:01,068
And she is killed
in her closet...
462
00:20:04,028 --> 00:20:06,987
With a piece of that plastic
463
00:20:07,031 --> 00:20:09,251
that you put over, like,
your dry-cleaning.
464
00:20:09,294 --> 00:20:12,036
And you see her face, like...
465
00:20:12,079 --> 00:20:14,734
Like, you can feel
the suffocation happening.
466
00:20:14,778 --> 00:20:17,346
And she dies with wide eyes
467
00:20:17,389 --> 00:20:19,870
and her mouth
in the... position.
468
00:20:19,913 --> 00:20:22,612
And that's how she stays
for the whole movie.
469
00:20:22,655 --> 00:20:24,483
And the next time you see
her corpse,
470
00:20:24,527 --> 00:20:27,094
she's in a rocking chair
in the attic,
471
00:20:27,138 --> 00:20:28,748
right by the window,
472
00:20:28,792 --> 00:20:31,055
with her face like that
and the plastic still on it.
473
00:20:32,752 --> 00:20:35,886
It's just a shocking image.
474
00:20:35,929 --> 00:20:37,931
Plus, I'm claustrophobic.
475
00:20:37,975 --> 00:20:40,282
And the idea
of not being able to breathe
476
00:20:40,325 --> 00:20:42,240
is incredibly powerful.
477
00:20:45,374 --> 00:20:47,593
And then we get introduced
to the victim's father
478
00:20:47,637 --> 00:20:49,203
just two or three scenes later.
479
00:20:49,247 --> 00:20:50,398
You see, I was supposed to meet
480
00:20:50,422 --> 00:20:52,163
my daughter here at 1:00.
481
00:20:52,206 --> 00:20:56,254
It's half past now,
and she's still not here.
482
00:20:56,298 --> 00:20:58,038
Her name's Clare Harrison.
Do you know her?
483
00:20:58,082 --> 00:20:59,910
And he's a very tragic,
484
00:20:59,953 --> 00:21:01,694
very likeable character...
485
00:21:01,738 --> 00:21:03,957
I feel I should be
doing something,
486
00:21:04,001 --> 00:21:05,350
but I don't know what.
487
00:21:05,394 --> 00:21:07,874
That you feel a lot for
while you're watching it
488
00:21:07,918 --> 00:21:10,050
because you know she's dead.
489
00:21:10,094 --> 00:21:12,314
But he doesn't know it
and he wants to find her.
490
00:21:12,357 --> 00:21:13,726
And even at the very end
of the film,
491
00:21:13,750 --> 00:21:14,901
they still haven't found
her body.
492
00:21:14,925 --> 00:21:16,230
It's still upstairs.
493
00:21:17,841 --> 00:21:19,166
It's haunting 'cause
she's watching everything
494
00:21:19,190 --> 00:21:20,974
almost as it's happening.
495
00:21:21,018 --> 00:21:23,412
She's kind of, like,
this sort of specter.
496
00:21:23,455 --> 00:21:24,935
I love when they show
things like that
497
00:21:24,978 --> 00:21:27,329
because a lot of times
when you watch slasher movies,
498
00:21:27,372 --> 00:21:29,132
somebody dies and they're
almost like an afterthought.
499
00:21:29,156 --> 00:21:30,636
They're forgotten about.
500
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,464
But she stays
throughout the film.
501
00:21:32,508 --> 00:21:34,205
And I think
that's really important
502
00:21:34,248 --> 00:21:35,530
that we're constantly reminded
of this horrible thing
503
00:21:35,554 --> 00:21:37,077
that happened at the beginning
504
00:21:37,121 --> 00:21:38,361
to trigger all of these events.
505
00:21:47,436 --> 00:21:49,089
Creatures?
506
00:21:49,133 --> 00:21:50,917
Jake, New York is filled
with creatures.
507
00:21:50,961 --> 00:21:52,702
They're like demons.
508
00:21:52,745 --> 00:21:54,399
They're trying to kill me.
509
00:21:59,752 --> 00:22:02,233
The absolute best scene
in "Jacob's Ladder,"
510
00:22:02,276 --> 00:22:03,495
and there are a bunch,
511
00:22:03,539 --> 00:22:07,281
but that dance scene
is just terrifying.
512
00:22:07,325 --> 00:22:09,893
One of the most horrific,
513
00:22:09,936 --> 00:22:14,158
enticingly, beautifully
constructed horror things,
514
00:22:14,201 --> 00:22:15,396
I think, in the history
of horror, right?
515
00:22:15,420 --> 00:22:16,943
And it's all about setup.
516
00:22:16,987 --> 00:22:18,443
It's all about setup.
517
00:22:21,513 --> 00:22:25,387
Jacob is a Vietnam vet.
518
00:22:26,866 --> 00:22:28,825
And he had a rough time.
519
00:22:28,868 --> 00:22:30,455
He's trying to get
his life back together.
520
00:22:30,479 --> 00:22:32,524
He's trying to get through
521
00:22:32,568 --> 00:22:35,527
all of the things
that he's seen.
522
00:22:35,571 --> 00:22:37,094
He can't quite get
himself together.
523
00:22:37,137 --> 00:22:39,052
Medic!
524
00:22:42,491 --> 00:22:44,754
It's Elizabeth Peña
and Tim Robbins,
525
00:22:44,797 --> 00:22:46,799
and they're at this gathering,
this party.
526
00:22:46,843 --> 00:22:50,237
And there's a woman
on the steps,
527
00:22:50,281 --> 00:22:52,544
this Black woman
who's kind of, like,
528
00:22:52,588 --> 00:22:54,087
presenting herself
as kind of a fortune teller
529
00:22:54,111 --> 00:22:56,200
to a certain degree.
530
00:22:56,243 --> 00:22:57,723
You have a very strange line.
531
00:22:59,508 --> 00:23:01,292
No, it's not funny.
532
00:23:01,335 --> 00:23:04,556
See, according to this,
you're already dead.
533
00:23:07,124 --> 00:23:09,561
Get out of here, baby.
- And he's laughing it out.
534
00:23:09,605 --> 00:23:11,365
And she's still, like, really,
really flirting with him...
535
00:23:11,389 --> 00:23:12,695
Hey, Jake.
536
00:23:12,738 --> 00:23:14,436
Come on, baby.
Come on and dance with me.
537
00:23:14,479 --> 00:23:16,046
Just one.
538
00:23:16,089 --> 00:23:18,570
Just give me your blue eyes
before you go.
539
00:23:18,614 --> 00:23:20,156
Which is really off-putting,
actually.
540
00:23:20,180 --> 00:23:21,747
It's like,
she's flirting with him,
541
00:23:21,791 --> 00:23:23,551
but the thought of it's like,
"I want your eyes."
542
00:23:23,575 --> 00:23:24,726
You know, the eyes are
the window to the soul.
543
00:23:24,750 --> 00:23:26,317
It's a very strange thing
to say.
544
00:23:26,360 --> 00:23:28,885
And then he goes off
to do white boy dancing.
545
00:23:28,928 --> 00:23:30,408
And he's terrible at it,
you know,
546
00:23:30,452 --> 00:23:32,236
so he kind of backs off
as most of us do.
547
00:23:34,020 --> 00:23:35,587
And then he just becomes
an observer.
548
00:23:35,631 --> 00:23:37,110
But when he becomes
the observer,
549
00:23:37,154 --> 00:23:38,982
that's when he starts seeing
gnarly stuff.
550
00:23:39,025 --> 00:23:40,723
And that's
when "Jacob's Ladder" starts
551
00:23:40,766 --> 00:23:42,464
kind of breaking down the walls
552
00:23:42,507 --> 00:23:44,553
of what you've seen
in horror movies.
553
00:23:45,423 --> 00:23:46,879
And he just doesn't know
what to do.
554
00:23:46,903 --> 00:23:48,470
He's trying to be okay.
555
00:23:48,513 --> 00:23:49,969
And the James Brown music
is getting louder.
556
00:23:49,993 --> 00:23:51,734
It's getting louder.
557
00:23:51,777 --> 00:23:54,040
His woman is just dancing,
you know, deeper and deeper.
558
00:23:55,694 --> 00:23:58,001
And so you have
this really great song,
559
00:23:58,044 --> 00:23:59,892
"My Thang," playing--
of course, the thing is, like,
560
00:23:59,916 --> 00:24:03,310
this phallic creature...
demon man.
561
00:24:03,354 --> 00:24:04,921
You know, and she's enjoying it.
562
00:24:04,964 --> 00:24:06,618
And then she's taking off
her garter belt.
563
00:24:06,662 --> 00:24:08,702
And you can't look away.
It's actually very sensual.
564
00:24:10,361 --> 00:24:12,755
The filmmaker, Adrian Lyne,
was really smart
565
00:24:12,798 --> 00:24:15,366
in that you never get
a complete picture.
566
00:24:15,409 --> 00:24:17,629
It's always you're watching
all this fast cutting
567
00:24:17,673 --> 00:24:19,631
and, "Wait, did that thing
have a tentacle?"
568
00:24:19,675 --> 00:24:23,026
But it's gone before you ever
even really know what you saw.
569
00:24:23,069 --> 00:24:24,723
And then, of course,
she's penetrated
570
00:24:24,767 --> 00:24:27,683
all the way up to her mouth
by this phallic thing
571
00:24:29,467 --> 00:24:31,164
And Tim Robbins,
he just freaks out.
572
00:24:31,208 --> 00:24:32,949
Of course-- of course you would.
573
00:24:32,992 --> 00:24:35,386
There is just so much
at work in this scene.
574
00:24:35,429 --> 00:24:38,781
And it's so fast, but it's one
that you carry with you.
575
00:24:38,824 --> 00:24:40,565
Every time something happens,
576
00:24:40,609 --> 00:24:43,176
he just gets more and more
back to this thing,
577
00:24:43,220 --> 00:24:44,917
whatever happened to him
in 'Nam.
578
00:24:44,961 --> 00:24:46,876
Jesus, look at that.
His guts are hanging out.
579
00:24:46,919 --> 00:24:48,268
That blew me away.
580
00:24:48,312 --> 00:24:49,724
'Cause you really don't know
what's going on
581
00:24:49,748 --> 00:24:51,445
until the end.
582
00:24:51,489 --> 00:24:53,883
And I related to him
'cause he was a Vietnam vet,
583
00:24:53,926 --> 00:24:56,059
you know, and all that was
happening to him.
584
00:24:56,102 --> 00:24:58,540
When I got back from Vietnam,
I was a zombie.
585
00:24:58,583 --> 00:25:00,585
I was an emotionless person
586
00:25:00,629 --> 00:25:02,848
for two years after I got back.
587
00:25:02,892 --> 00:25:04,546
'Cause, you know,
when you're in Vietnam,
588
00:25:04,589 --> 00:25:06,025
you gotta turn
your emotions off,
589
00:25:06,069 --> 00:25:08,811
or you'll--
a lot of guys did go nuts.
590
00:25:08,854 --> 00:25:11,378
I think PTSD,
that's the whole idea.
591
00:25:11,422 --> 00:25:13,598
Guys who couldn't turn
their emotions off.
592
00:25:13,642 --> 00:25:16,253
I don't know who they are
or what they are.
593
00:25:16,296 --> 00:25:18,516
But they're gonna get me,
and I'm scared, Jake.
594
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,431
I've seen them too.
595
00:25:27,481 --> 00:25:29,440
This time, they are playing
596
00:25:29,483 --> 00:25:31,834
with the destruction
of life as we know it
597
00:25:31,877 --> 00:25:35,185
and, at worst,
total annihilation.
598
00:25:36,795 --> 00:25:39,232
You cannot win a nuclear war.
599
00:25:41,278 --> 00:25:43,118
"Threads" was a British
television production
600
00:25:43,149 --> 00:25:44,629
written by Barry Hines,
601
00:25:44,673 --> 00:25:47,371
directed by Mick Jackson
in 1984.
602
00:25:47,414 --> 00:25:49,242
And it's been called
the most devastating
603
00:25:49,286 --> 00:25:51,418
piece of television
ever produced.
604
00:25:51,462 --> 00:25:52,787
All the people here will be
dead already.
605
00:25:52,811 --> 00:25:53,986
It's completely flattened.
606
00:25:54,030 --> 00:25:57,120
The premise of "Threads" is,
607
00:25:57,163 --> 00:26:00,906
what would happen if there was
a nuclear attack on Britain?
608
00:26:01,864 --> 00:26:06,303
In 1984, the U.S. and the USSR
between them had
609
00:26:06,346 --> 00:26:08,479
60,000 nuclear weapons,
610
00:26:08,522 --> 00:26:13,092
which is about 59,500
more nuclear weapons
611
00:26:13,136 --> 00:26:15,486
than you'd need
to wipe out the planet.
612
00:26:17,140 --> 00:26:20,447
The most widespread danger
is fallout.
613
00:26:20,491 --> 00:26:22,362
It was at a time
when kind of, like,
614
00:26:22,406 --> 00:26:26,410
the threat of nuclear war
was very much in the air.
615
00:26:26,453 --> 00:26:29,195
Not like it is-- isn't now.
616
00:26:30,893 --> 00:26:32,285
"Threads" is shot just like
617
00:26:32,329 --> 00:26:34,461
a British documentary
of the time...
618
00:26:37,421 --> 00:26:39,031
Where you're just following
619
00:26:39,075 --> 00:26:40,995
two working-class families
in Sheffield, England,
620
00:26:41,033 --> 00:26:43,688
which is a industrial town
in the north.
621
00:26:51,914 --> 00:26:54,090
And the bit
that really struck me
622
00:26:54,133 --> 00:26:57,049
is when Jimmy,
played by Reece Dinsdale,
623
00:26:57,093 --> 00:26:59,095
in the outbreak
of the missile attack
624
00:26:59,138 --> 00:27:00,662
is running from the pub...
625
00:27:05,014 --> 00:27:08,234
And then he is dead
and you never see him again.
626
00:27:10,410 --> 00:27:13,109
And so Reece Dinsdale,
who is a famous actor,
627
00:27:13,152 --> 00:27:14,763
or certainly, like,
a notable actor--
628
00:27:14,806 --> 00:27:16,784
it's almost like the
Janet Leigh thing in "Psycho."
629
00:27:16,808 --> 00:27:18,525
It's like, "Here's your lead,
Reece Dinsdale.
630
00:27:18,549 --> 00:27:19,724
No, he's dead."
631
00:27:19,768 --> 00:27:21,508
He's not in the second hour
at all.
632
00:27:21,552 --> 00:27:22,771
And with Jimmy dead--
633
00:27:22,814 --> 00:27:24,947
But you don't know--
- He is. He is.
634
00:27:24,990 --> 00:27:26,470
I know he is.
635
00:27:28,037 --> 00:27:30,387
And the idea that he,
like, is gone in a cut
636
00:27:30,430 --> 00:27:32,824
is such a perfect dramatization
637
00:27:32,868 --> 00:27:35,261
of the idea
that in a nuclear attack,
638
00:27:35,305 --> 00:27:36,959
like, all of your loved ones
639
00:27:37,002 --> 00:27:38,395
are gonna be gone in an instant.
640
00:27:44,357 --> 00:27:47,665
And that is, like,
brutally effective in that.
641
00:27:49,406 --> 00:27:50,886
The one person
who kind of manages
642
00:27:50,929 --> 00:27:54,063
to survive is the mother.
643
00:27:54,106 --> 00:27:57,327
And by the end of it,
it's 13 years later,
644
00:27:57,370 --> 00:28:01,026
and civilization is
basically almost barbaric.
645
00:28:01,070 --> 00:28:03,004
There still is a government,
but essentially all it does
646
00:28:03,028 --> 00:28:05,509
is just have people working
647
00:28:05,552 --> 00:28:08,164
as kind of indentured servants
making grain.
648
00:28:11,515 --> 00:28:13,778
Near the end
when they start flashing
649
00:28:13,822 --> 00:28:15,780
forward in time a lot faster,
650
00:28:15,824 --> 00:28:19,218
interspersed by what seem
like real shots
651
00:28:19,262 --> 00:28:22,569
of holocaust survivors...
652
00:28:24,746 --> 00:28:26,486
Is really disturbing.
653
00:28:29,707 --> 00:28:34,364
And then climaxing
in the daughter having a baby,
654
00:28:34,407 --> 00:28:36,105
seemingly through a rape,
655
00:28:36,148 --> 00:28:38,716
and seeing her reaction
to her baby's face.
656
00:28:54,732 --> 00:28:57,648
The final shot in "Threads"
is, whoa.
657
00:28:57,691 --> 00:29:00,042
When the baby's born
and it just ends
658
00:29:00,085 --> 00:29:01,652
on her looking at it
659
00:29:01,695 --> 00:29:03,219
and the look of horror
on her face
660
00:29:03,262 --> 00:29:05,264
and then cut to black,
661
00:29:05,308 --> 00:29:07,701
that is, you know,
one of the most unsettling
662
00:29:07,745 --> 00:29:09,747
endings of anything
I've ever seen.
663
00:29:12,794 --> 00:29:15,535
You're left with no closure.
664
00:29:15,579 --> 00:29:17,189
There's no happy ending.
665
00:29:17,233 --> 00:29:18,930
And it's brutal.
666
00:29:18,974 --> 00:29:22,238
So I'm not surprised
that it gave people nightmares.
667
00:29:29,332 --> 00:29:32,988
Hello, Karen.
- Eddie, I saw you die.
668
00:29:33,031 --> 00:29:35,120
Well, here I am, Karen.
Look at me.
669
00:29:49,439 --> 00:29:51,833
I was making a movie
called "Jaws 3, People 0"
670
00:29:51,876 --> 00:29:53,269
at Universal that got cancelled.
671
00:29:53,312 --> 00:29:56,054
And I had a chance to jump
onto this werewolf movie
672
00:29:56,098 --> 00:29:58,013
that was being made
at Avco Embassy.
673
00:29:58,056 --> 00:29:59,884
The studio was worried
that werewolves were
674
00:29:59,928 --> 00:30:02,887
kind of old hat,
and so we decided to make
675
00:30:02,931 --> 00:30:04,865
the beginning of the movie
look like a slasher movie
676
00:30:04,889 --> 00:30:06,562
because they had been having
a lot of success
677
00:30:06,586 --> 00:30:08,414
with slasher movies
around that time.
678
00:30:08,458 --> 00:30:09,981
And that worked
because the audience--
679
00:30:10,025 --> 00:30:11,287
once we sucked the audience
680
00:30:11,330 --> 00:30:12,984
into the story
with the characters,
681
00:30:13,028 --> 00:30:14,856
then when we introduced
the werewolf angle,
682
00:30:14,899 --> 00:30:16,118
it went down smoothly.
683
00:30:16,161 --> 00:30:18,207
"The Howling"...
684
00:30:18,250 --> 00:30:20,054
You know, it's such a--
it's such a great film.
685
00:30:20,078 --> 00:30:22,602
And there are so many
wonderful scares in it too,
686
00:30:22,646 --> 00:30:24,213
from that opening scene
687
00:30:24,256 --> 00:30:26,215
when Dee Wallace is
in the porn booth
688
00:30:26,258 --> 00:30:28,695
and you see the guy is
lit from behind
689
00:30:28,739 --> 00:30:30,175
and absolutely terrifying,
690
00:30:30,219 --> 00:30:33,570
and you get
why it traumatizes her,
691
00:30:33,613 --> 00:30:36,181
to Robert Picardo's
transformation on camera,
692
00:30:36,225 --> 00:30:38,009
which was, I still think,
693
00:30:38,053 --> 00:30:39,769
the greatest werewolf
transformation I've ever seen.
694
00:30:39,793 --> 00:30:41,708
It's beautifully shot
and edited.
695
00:30:41,752 --> 00:30:44,711
The effects are incredible.
The performance is great.
696
00:30:44,755 --> 00:30:46,931
For me, the biggest jump
in the movie, for all that,
697
00:30:46,975 --> 00:30:48,933
is this tiny, tiny shot.
698
00:30:48,977 --> 00:30:50,780
And it's that scene when Terry
is running through the woods.
699
00:30:50,804 --> 00:30:51,805
She's being chased.
700
00:30:51,849 --> 00:30:53,503
And Joe Dante shoots it--
701
00:30:53,546 --> 00:30:55,679
at first, it almost feels
like a fairy tale.
702
00:30:57,724 --> 00:31:00,989
Joe, in particular,
will set up fear
703
00:31:01,032 --> 00:31:02,991
by throwing you off guard
704
00:31:03,034 --> 00:31:04,514
much in the way
Hitchcock would do,
705
00:31:04,557 --> 00:31:06,646
by doing something funny
to distract you.
706
00:31:09,258 --> 00:31:11,173
And then slap you in the face
with a shock--
707
00:31:11,216 --> 00:31:12,696
with something scary.
708
00:31:12,739 --> 00:31:14,567
One of the greatest scares
I've ever seen.
709
00:31:14,611 --> 00:31:16,787
She finds a file cabinet
and she starts going
710
00:31:16,830 --> 00:31:18,373
through these files,
and she's like, ""
711
00:31:18,397 --> 00:31:19,984
and she finds one she wants
and she keeps going,
712
00:31:20,008 --> 00:31:22,053
and she's holding the one here.
713
00:31:22,097 --> 00:31:24,534
It's 81st...
714
00:31:28,451 --> 00:31:31,236
And it just snarls
and smacks her,
715
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,151
and she goes flying
out of frame.
716
00:31:35,762 --> 00:31:38,983
To me, that moment,
it took my breath away.
717
00:31:39,027 --> 00:31:40,767
The werewolves
we had always seen was
718
00:31:40,811 --> 00:31:43,248
Lon Cheney or Oliver Reed
or Henry Hull.
719
00:31:43,292 --> 00:31:44,989
It was-- that was a werewolf.
720
00:31:45,033 --> 00:31:49,298
We had never really,
really seen anything like that.
721
00:31:49,341 --> 00:31:52,083
And the design was so unique.
722
00:31:52,127 --> 00:31:55,391
And the fact
that the face was sculpted
723
00:31:55,434 --> 00:31:56,783
in such an extreme expression,
724
00:31:56,827 --> 00:31:58,220
and in the way
the hair was styled
725
00:31:58,263 --> 00:31:59,961
and the ears were big and--
726
00:32:00,004 --> 00:32:01,919
it just felt feral.
727
00:32:01,963 --> 00:32:04,356
And it was just
absolutely terrifying.
728
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,923
That was a big scare.
729
00:32:05,967 --> 00:32:08,230
And when I went
to the Loew's Theater
730
00:32:08,273 --> 00:32:09,796
in New York for the premiere,
731
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,234
they had-- it was running
upstairs and downstairs.
732
00:32:12,277 --> 00:32:13,844
And when I saw
733
00:32:13,887 --> 00:32:15,802
what a big reaction that was
downstairs,
734
00:32:15,846 --> 00:32:18,153
I ran upstairs 'cause it was
a little further behind,
735
00:32:18,196 --> 00:32:20,024
and exactly the same reaction.
736
00:32:20,068 --> 00:32:21,634
It was like,
"Well, okay this is--
737
00:32:21,678 --> 00:32:23,549
"this is something
that I can do.
738
00:32:23,593 --> 00:32:24,962
"This is something
I know how to do.
739
00:32:24,986 --> 00:32:26,378
And it's something I enjoy."
740
00:32:26,422 --> 00:32:28,554
So it obviously led
to more horror movies.
741
00:32:56,104 --> 00:32:58,628
"Gerald's Game" is a film
by Mike Flanagan.
742
00:32:58,671 --> 00:33:00,064
This was
from a Stephen King book
743
00:33:00,108 --> 00:33:01,911
that a lot of people thought
would be unfilmable.
744
00:33:01,935 --> 00:33:03,720
And if you read it,
you probably know why.
745
00:33:03,763 --> 00:33:05,002
So if you think you've seen
everything as a horror fan,
746
00:33:05,026 --> 00:33:06,810
I guarantee you
"Gerald's Game" gives you
747
00:33:06,853 --> 00:33:08,135
something you haven't
seen before.
748
00:33:08,159 --> 00:33:09,702
This couple goes away
for the weekend.
749
00:33:09,726 --> 00:33:11,945
And they've been married
for a long time
750
00:33:11,989 --> 00:33:13,730
and they have some problems
751
00:33:13,773 --> 00:33:16,080
and they're middle-aged
and their kids are grown
752
00:33:16,124 --> 00:33:18,778
and they're trying
to revitalize their marriage.
753
00:33:18,822 --> 00:33:20,476
Things start getting
a little kinky
754
00:33:20,519 --> 00:33:22,130
and he handcuffs her to the bed.
755
00:33:24,697 --> 00:33:27,483
And then proceeds to have
a heart attack and die...
756
00:33:29,441 --> 00:33:31,313
Leaving her handcuffed
to the bed.
757
00:33:31,356 --> 00:33:35,360
And the movie is about
her next three days
758
00:33:35,404 --> 00:33:38,885
of slowly losing her mind
tied to this bed.
759
00:33:38,929 --> 00:33:40,341
The whole book is about,
how is she gonna escape
760
00:33:40,365 --> 00:33:41,540
from these handcuffs?
761
00:33:41,584 --> 00:33:42,865
How is she gonna get
out of there?
762
00:33:42,889 --> 00:33:44,717
And the book begins to describe
763
00:33:44,761 --> 00:33:46,458
her last desperate effort
764
00:33:46,502 --> 00:33:48,069
to free her hand from the cuffs.
765
00:33:48,112 --> 00:33:50,941
We're dealing with her past
and abuse
766
00:33:50,984 --> 00:33:55,032
and all this tapestry
of toxic masculinity
767
00:33:55,076 --> 00:33:58,905
and victimization
and strength and triumph
768
00:33:58,949 --> 00:34:00,690
and healing
and all of it comes down
769
00:34:00,733 --> 00:34:02,909
into what is going to be
770
00:34:02,953 --> 00:34:06,217
a really disgusting scene
visually
771
00:34:06,261 --> 00:34:09,829
that functions metaphorically,
that works for her character,
772
00:34:09,873 --> 00:34:12,483
that shows the price of healing,
773
00:34:12,528 --> 00:34:14,050
but also just shows a hand
774
00:34:14,095 --> 00:34:16,706
being just absolutely
shredded apart.
775
00:34:16,749 --> 00:34:18,795
The only way she can get
out of the handcuff
776
00:34:18,838 --> 00:34:21,579
is to deglove her own hand.
777
00:34:21,624 --> 00:34:23,059
So for those of you
that don't know,
778
00:34:23,104 --> 00:34:25,845
degloving is when the skin
779
00:34:25,889 --> 00:34:28,021
comes off of your hand
completely
780
00:34:28,065 --> 00:34:31,112
and you're just, like,
bones and muscle.
781
00:34:31,155 --> 00:34:33,679
And this poor woman
has to reach up
782
00:34:33,722 --> 00:34:35,162
and slice the skin
around her hand...
783
00:34:36,987 --> 00:34:39,423
And then as she pulls it
through the handcuff,
784
00:34:39,468 --> 00:34:41,599
the skin just kind of--
you just see
785
00:34:41,644 --> 00:34:44,255
the skin coming right off
like a glove.
786
00:34:44,298 --> 00:34:46,561
And she can finally pull
her hand out.
787
00:34:50,173 --> 00:34:51,740
Very difficult to watch.
788
00:34:51,784 --> 00:34:53,351
And it really looks painful.
789
00:34:53,394 --> 00:34:55,701
I mean, the FX makeup
on that is fantastic
790
00:34:55,745 --> 00:34:58,226
and super gross.
791
00:34:58,269 --> 00:35:01,185
Bob Kurtzman designed
the prosthetic effect.
792
00:35:01,229 --> 00:35:03,144
Bob's prosthetic looked so good,
793
00:35:03,187 --> 00:35:04,971
it did the work for us.
794
00:35:05,015 --> 00:35:07,017
And then Carla sold it.
795
00:35:07,060 --> 00:35:09,541
And that's no small feat.
796
00:35:09,585 --> 00:35:11,195
The hand is horrible to look at.
797
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:12,501
But if you look at the edit,
798
00:35:12,544 --> 00:35:14,024
I spend way more time on Carla
799
00:35:14,067 --> 00:35:15,067
than I do on the hand.
800
00:35:16,287 --> 00:35:19,725
I went to Austin
for the film's premiere.
801
00:35:19,769 --> 00:35:22,206
I had never
in my career experienced
802
00:35:22,250 --> 00:35:24,208
what I experienced
in that theater
803
00:35:24,252 --> 00:35:25,601
when that scene played.
804
00:35:25,644 --> 00:35:27,907
The noises people were making.
805
00:35:27,951 --> 00:35:29,257
People were diving
out of chairs,
806
00:35:29,300 --> 00:35:30,736
twisting around.
807
00:35:30,780 --> 00:35:32,105
There was a journalist
who was sitting
808
00:35:32,129 --> 00:35:35,045
in the row in front of me
who fainted during it.
809
00:35:35,088 --> 00:35:38,483
And it remains to this day
the most visceral reaction
810
00:35:38,527 --> 00:35:40,877
I've ever-- ever seen
in an audience
811
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,270
from anything
that I've worked on.
812
00:35:51,366 --> 00:35:54,064
You're gonna be just fine.
813
00:35:54,107 --> 00:35:56,936
I'll take good care of you.
814
00:35:56,980 --> 00:35:58,460
I'm your number one fan.
815
00:36:02,899 --> 00:36:05,510
"Misery", I'm still convinced
today that it's
816
00:36:05,554 --> 00:36:08,209
one of Stephen King's best
adaptations to screen.
817
00:36:08,252 --> 00:36:11,386
It's literally the example
of minimal concept,
818
00:36:11,429 --> 00:36:12,561
maximum tension.
819
00:36:12,604 --> 00:36:14,258
It's exactly that.
820
00:36:14,302 --> 00:36:15,453
I think the majority
of the film is
821
00:36:15,477 --> 00:36:17,522
just two actors, one location.
822
00:36:18,393 --> 00:36:19,916
That's all you needed.
823
00:36:19,959 --> 00:36:23,267
With really good story,
really good acting,
824
00:36:23,311 --> 00:36:24,964
you're in for a wild ride.
825
00:36:25,008 --> 00:36:26,551
I just have to talk
about Kathy Bates for a second
826
00:36:26,575 --> 00:36:28,117
'cause I think she's
so brilliant in that movie.
827
00:36:28,141 --> 00:36:29,273
Bad women are my favorite.
828
00:36:29,317 --> 00:36:32,058
I love a woman behaving badly.
829
00:36:32,102 --> 00:36:34,278
She's complicated.
On one side, you know,
830
00:36:34,322 --> 00:36:37,107
giddy fangirl who actually is
a fan of his work.
831
00:36:37,150 --> 00:36:38,761
But then on the other side,
832
00:36:38,804 --> 00:36:40,937
she's keeping this guy
in jail, basically,
833
00:36:40,980 --> 00:36:42,504
in her house.
834
00:36:42,547 --> 00:36:44,027
I call her
an evil prison warden.
835
00:36:44,070 --> 00:36:45,942
But that scene
when she breaks his ankles--
836
00:36:45,985 --> 00:36:47,552
ooh, honey, please!
837
00:36:47,596 --> 00:36:49,641
I think the editing
838
00:36:49,685 --> 00:36:53,297
and just shots that the DP
and the director put together
839
00:36:53,341 --> 00:36:55,647
to me is what makes
that scene specifically
840
00:36:55,691 --> 00:36:58,563
really special
and really memorable.
841
00:36:58,607 --> 00:37:01,349
Everything that is shot
on Kathy Bates' face
842
00:37:01,392 --> 00:37:02,437
is a close-up.
843
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,700
Every single time, a close-up
844
00:37:04,743 --> 00:37:07,529
for her to show you,
the audience,
845
00:37:07,572 --> 00:37:09,748
what she knows more than you do.
846
00:37:09,792 --> 00:37:10,836
I know you've been out.
847
00:37:12,447 --> 00:37:13,883
No, I haven't.
848
00:37:13,926 --> 00:37:15,319
Next close-up.
849
00:37:17,234 --> 00:37:19,236
Is this what you're looking for?
850
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,934
And the next close-up.
- I found your key.
851
00:37:21,978 --> 00:37:23,284
I'm like, "Okay, Kathy Bates,
852
00:37:23,327 --> 00:37:24,783
what else are you gonna
prove me wrong now?"
853
00:37:24,807 --> 00:37:28,158
It's like she is so ahead
every single time
854
00:37:28,201 --> 00:37:31,030
and just so controlling.
855
00:37:31,074 --> 00:37:34,120
That's really scary
when you got nowhere to go.
856
00:37:34,164 --> 00:37:37,167
Tied up. Drugged.
What else can she do to you?
857
00:37:37,210 --> 00:37:39,561
He doesn't know
exactly what's gonna happen
858
00:37:39,604 --> 00:37:42,346
until she takes
this block of wood
859
00:37:42,390 --> 00:37:43,956
and puts it between his ankles.
860
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,176
And he doesn't know
what's going on.
861
00:37:46,219 --> 00:37:48,309
And she can't wait to do this.
862
00:37:48,352 --> 00:37:50,485
And she doesn't just tap it.
863
00:37:50,528 --> 00:37:52,617
She's just like, you know,
864
00:37:52,661 --> 00:37:55,228
getting ready to hit a home run.
865
00:37:56,404 --> 00:37:58,928
When Annie swings that hammer
866
00:37:58,971 --> 00:38:02,845
and you feel it connect
to the board and the bone
867
00:38:02,888 --> 00:38:04,629
and you hear the sound--
868
00:38:04,673 --> 00:38:07,328
and the combination
of editing and sound design
869
00:38:07,371 --> 00:38:11,201
and script and performance,
your ankles feel it
870
00:38:11,244 --> 00:38:13,290
before your brain catches up.
871
00:38:13,334 --> 00:38:16,554
It is perfectly executed
physical horror.
872
00:38:16,598 --> 00:38:18,295
It stays with you
because everything was
873
00:38:18,339 --> 00:38:20,558
close-up, close-up,
close-up, close-up
874
00:38:20,602 --> 00:38:23,213
until it goes to a wide
just to see the foot do this.
875
00:38:24,954 --> 00:38:26,782
That was it. Just a bang.
876
00:38:28,349 --> 00:38:30,089
I can't handle it.
877
00:38:32,875 --> 00:38:34,746
God, I love you.
878
00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:37,314
We cast his legs
from the knee down
879
00:38:37,358 --> 00:38:40,883
and made gelatin legs
with punched hair.
880
00:38:40,926 --> 00:38:42,624
And then we put holes
in the bed,
881
00:38:42,667 --> 00:38:44,515
and his real legs went
through the holes in the bed.
882
00:38:44,539 --> 00:38:46,932
We could have made
a rubber sledgehammer
883
00:38:46,976 --> 00:38:48,369
that was lightweight,
884
00:38:48,412 --> 00:38:50,980
and you could have left
his real legs up there
885
00:38:51,023 --> 00:38:54,200
and swung the rubber
sledgehammer down.
886
00:38:54,244 --> 00:38:56,768
But when we talked
with Rob Reiner about it,
887
00:38:56,812 --> 00:38:59,423
we wanted the audience to see...
888
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,576
That it took her
a little bit of effort
889
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:03,993
to raise that sledgehammer up.
890
00:39:04,036 --> 00:39:06,517
So the audience in their head
891
00:39:06,561 --> 00:39:09,868
doesn't realize
that from one shot to the next,
892
00:39:09,912 --> 00:39:13,263
we changed the real legs
for fake legs
893
00:39:13,306 --> 00:39:16,222
because they're watching it
as a continuous story.
894
00:39:16,266 --> 00:39:19,356
There's so much technique
involved in storytelling.
895
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,489
It's not just about the effect.
896
00:39:21,532 --> 00:39:24,448
But it's about how
the director and the writer
897
00:39:24,492 --> 00:39:28,757
craft that moment to manipulate
and control the audience.
898
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,411
To misery.
899
00:39:30,454 --> 00:39:31,586
To misery.
900
00:39:40,508 --> 00:39:41,683
You really believe
901
00:39:41,726 --> 00:39:43,685
that you can bring life
to the dead?
902
00:39:43,728 --> 00:39:44,792
You're crazy!
903
00:39:44,816 --> 00:39:47,123
Crazy, am I?
904
00:39:47,166 --> 00:39:50,126
We'll see
whether I'm crazy or not.
905
00:39:50,169 --> 00:39:52,389
"Frankenstein" isn't given
enough credit
906
00:39:52,433 --> 00:39:56,175
for how it really paved the way
for the horror films to follow.
907
00:39:56,219 --> 00:39:57,873
The idea of playing God--
908
00:39:57,916 --> 00:40:00,136
of piecing together a creature
909
00:40:00,179 --> 00:40:02,399
out of the parts of human bodies
910
00:40:02,443 --> 00:40:05,315
and animating it
through electricity,
911
00:40:05,358 --> 00:40:08,449
so many of the great
horror films to follow
912
00:40:08,492 --> 00:40:09,493
were influenced by this.
913
00:40:09,537 --> 00:40:12,496
It's alive.
914
00:40:12,540 --> 00:40:16,152
It's alive.
It's alive, it's alive!
915
00:40:16,195 --> 00:40:17,588
The cinematography,
916
00:40:17,632 --> 00:40:19,590
the direction under James Whale,
917
00:40:19,634 --> 00:40:22,811
it's incredibly sophisticated
pictorially and otherwise.
918
00:40:22,854 --> 00:40:24,726
Would you like
one of my flowers?
919
00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:29,034
There's a lot going on
in that movie,
920
00:40:29,078 --> 00:40:32,298
and the movie benefits
from the fact
921
00:40:32,342 --> 00:40:36,128
that this was
before films had soundtracks.
922
00:40:36,172 --> 00:40:38,522
This was in the early days
923
00:40:38,566 --> 00:40:41,177
when they were still
figuring out sound and music
924
00:40:41,220 --> 00:40:44,267
where they didn't have
wall-to-wall music cues
925
00:40:44,310 --> 00:40:46,661
telling you how to feel
and dictating the action.
926
00:40:49,577 --> 00:40:51,361
The first time you see
Boris Karloff
927
00:40:51,404 --> 00:40:53,189
as the monster
in "Frankenstein" --
928
00:40:53,232 --> 00:40:56,061
a pretty major moment
in motion picture history
929
00:40:56,105 --> 00:40:58,194
because you've been led up
to believe
930
00:40:58,237 --> 00:41:00,346
that this terrible creature
is coming through the door.
931
00:41:00,370 --> 00:41:01,327
But when you turn
the lights out,
932
00:41:01,371 --> 00:41:02,633
the door opens
933
00:41:02,677 --> 00:41:04,002
and the creature
is not facing you.
934
00:41:04,026 --> 00:41:05,462
He's facing the other way.
935
00:41:08,073 --> 00:41:09,379
He does a slow reveal.
936
00:41:09,422 --> 00:41:10,989
There's no sound at all.
937
00:41:19,171 --> 00:41:22,305
The shot holds, like,
a lot longer
938
00:41:22,348 --> 00:41:25,134
than you're expecting it
to hold.
939
00:41:25,177 --> 00:41:27,092
Like, you think
something's gonna happen.
940
00:41:27,136 --> 00:41:30,487
Like, it's really
a unique device
941
00:41:30,531 --> 00:41:32,837
for building some anticipation.
942
00:41:32,881 --> 00:41:34,709
And then you see it
and then you hold on it
943
00:41:34,752 --> 00:41:36,101
and hold on it and hold on it.
944
00:41:36,145 --> 00:41:39,017
But it's absolute brilliant
945
00:41:39,061 --> 00:41:40,301
introduction to that character.
946
00:41:42,238 --> 00:41:44,762
Even today,
it's a great makeup design
947
00:41:44,806 --> 00:41:46,721
and it looks so real.
948
00:41:46,764 --> 00:41:48,853
And the bolts and the scars.
949
00:41:48,897 --> 00:41:51,334
Everyone who has
a horror character
950
00:41:51,377 --> 00:41:53,031
in their movie,
you try to create
951
00:41:53,075 --> 00:41:54,642
something iconic,
something original,
952
00:41:54,685 --> 00:41:56,295
something new.
953
00:41:56,339 --> 00:41:59,472
But it's very rare that you get
a Frankenstein's monster,
954
00:41:59,516 --> 00:42:01,257
that you get a Freddy Krueger,
955
00:42:01,300 --> 00:42:03,215
that you get a Jason Voorhees
956
00:42:03,259 --> 00:42:04,695
behind a hockey mask,
957
00:42:04,739 --> 00:42:06,305
that you get Michael Myers
958
00:42:06,349 --> 00:42:08,438
behind a William Shatner mask.
959
00:42:08,481 --> 00:42:10,832
It's really hard to strike gold
960
00:42:10,875 --> 00:42:13,312
with something like that,
and the first one to do it
961
00:42:13,356 --> 00:42:15,271
was the Frankenstein monster.
962
00:42:15,314 --> 00:42:18,579
In the name of God,
now I know what it feels like
963
00:42:18,622 --> 00:42:20,232
to be God.
964
00:42:30,286 --> 00:42:31,592
Please, God.
965
00:42:31,635 --> 00:42:34,856
This... is God.
966
00:42:38,642 --> 00:42:39,924
"Nightmare on Elm Street"
just has
967
00:42:39,948 --> 00:42:41,689
so many iconic moments.
968
00:42:41,732 --> 00:42:43,255
It's just like, take your pick.
969
00:42:43,299 --> 00:42:45,606
And everybody's got
their favorite.
970
00:42:45,649 --> 00:42:47,695
My favorite in particular is
the body bag moment
971
00:42:47,738 --> 00:42:49,194
'cause it's just
such a haunting image.
972
00:42:49,218 --> 00:42:50,741
Nancy.
973
00:42:50,785 --> 00:42:52,153
Horror contends
with a lot of things,
974
00:42:52,177 --> 00:42:53,396
but there are these, like,
975
00:42:53,439 --> 00:42:57,661
very grand
overarching preoccupations,
976
00:42:57,705 --> 00:42:59,837
and one of them has to do
with the gulf
977
00:42:59,881 --> 00:43:03,101
between what is imagined
and what is real.
978
00:43:03,145 --> 00:43:04,886
And that's really
979
00:43:04,929 --> 00:43:07,671
what "Nightmare on Elm Street"
is dealing with.
980
00:43:07,715 --> 00:43:12,110
What is the terror that exists
when you're not really certain
981
00:43:12,154 --> 00:43:15,113
where those lines are drawn?
982
00:43:15,157 --> 00:43:18,073
And so leading up to the scene,
983
00:43:18,116 --> 00:43:21,685
we see Nancy pushing herself
984
00:43:21,729 --> 00:43:23,861
to pretend
that everything is normal
985
00:43:23,905 --> 00:43:26,559
in the aftermath
of this brutal murder.
986
00:43:26,603 --> 00:43:27,841
I've gotta go to school, Mother.
987
00:43:27,865 --> 00:43:29,301
Otherwise, I'll go crazy.
988
00:43:29,345 --> 00:43:32,304
Nancy is at school,
and as we all know,
989
00:43:32,348 --> 00:43:33,828
high school is very boring.
990
00:43:33,871 --> 00:43:36,221
She hasn't slept and her
friend has been murdered
991
00:43:36,265 --> 00:43:37,329
and she doesn't
really understand
992
00:43:37,353 --> 00:43:38,354
what's going on yet.
993
00:43:38,397 --> 00:43:40,095
She's starting to fall asleep
994
00:43:40,138 --> 00:43:41,792
and the class is going on
around her.
995
00:43:41,836 --> 00:43:45,274
What is seen is not always
what is real.
996
00:43:45,317 --> 00:43:48,494
This line becomes
super significant
997
00:43:48,538 --> 00:43:50,192
as she's about to have
her first encounter
998
00:43:50,235 --> 00:43:51,672
with Freddy Krueger.
999
00:43:51,715 --> 00:43:54,718
As she falls asleep,
she sees this vision
1000
00:43:54,762 --> 00:43:58,243
of her friend in the body bag,
and she's reaching out.
1001
00:43:58,287 --> 00:44:00,768
She's kind of pawing at her
through the body bag.
1002
00:44:00,811 --> 00:44:02,595
She goes outside in the hallway,
1003
00:44:02,639 --> 00:44:05,120
and I remember you see that body
1004
00:44:05,163 --> 00:44:06,687
and the legs go up
and dragged off,
1005
00:44:06,730 --> 00:44:08,340
and I thought that was so cool.
1006
00:44:08,384 --> 00:44:10,778
It was like, "Wow, this is
really, really creepy."
1007
00:44:10,821 --> 00:44:14,259
And there's this mood
that all of a sudden,
1008
00:44:14,303 --> 00:44:18,002
you know it's a dream,
but it feels so real.
1009
00:44:18,046 --> 00:44:19,264
Tina?
1010
00:44:19,308 --> 00:44:20,831
She bumps into the hall monitor,
1011
00:44:20,875 --> 00:44:23,268
and we have
this great visual clue
1012
00:44:23,312 --> 00:44:24,922
of the red and green sweater.
1013
00:44:24,966 --> 00:44:26,054
Where's your pass?
1014
00:44:26,097 --> 00:44:28,839
Screw your pass.
1015
00:44:28,883 --> 00:44:31,537
Wait a minute, I know
that red and green sweater.
1016
00:44:31,581 --> 00:44:33,975
That's Freddy, but it's a girl.
Wait, how...
1017
00:44:34,018 --> 00:44:36,281
Hey, Nancy.
1018
00:44:36,325 --> 00:44:39,763
No running in the hallway.
1019
00:44:39,807 --> 00:44:43,201
I just remember, like,
as a freshman in high school
1020
00:44:43,245 --> 00:44:45,116
thinking that was so freaky
1021
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,641
because that moment is mixing
this fear of getting permission
1022
00:44:48,685 --> 00:44:51,296
and fear of authority
with this fear
1023
00:44:51,340 --> 00:44:53,734
of getting shredded
by a child murderer.
1024
00:44:53,777 --> 00:44:56,780
And so it's mixing these
anxieties really, really well.
1025
00:44:56,824 --> 00:45:00,218
This trail of blood
from this body bag
1026
00:45:00,262 --> 00:45:02,090
leads her to Freddy Krueger,
1027
00:45:02,133 --> 00:45:04,048
to direct confrontation with him
1028
00:45:04,092 --> 00:45:07,182
kind of for the first time
in the film,
1029
00:45:07,225 --> 00:45:09,358
in the sense that she realizes
1030
00:45:09,401 --> 00:45:12,317
that this is what's going on
in the dreamscape,
1031
00:45:12,361 --> 00:45:14,798
and she's able to save herself
1032
00:45:14,842 --> 00:45:18,236
by recognizing that what is
playing out in front of her
1033
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:19,629
is not real.
1034
00:45:19,672 --> 00:45:21,022
It's only a dream!
1035
00:45:21,065 --> 00:45:22,458
Come to Freddy.
1036
00:45:29,595 --> 00:45:32,250
Wes Craven of course was
an English teacher,
1037
00:45:32,294 --> 00:45:33,686
and he's also very much into,
1038
00:45:33,730 --> 00:45:34,881
like, philosophy and literature,
1039
00:45:34,905 --> 00:45:36,559
so he loved these ideas
about how to deal
1040
00:45:36,602 --> 00:45:37,928
with, you know,
the evil in your life,
1041
00:45:37,952 --> 00:45:39,431
and if it's seeping
into your dreams
1042
00:45:39,475 --> 00:45:40,432
or, you know,
into your consciousness,
1043
00:45:40,476 --> 00:45:42,478
how do you deal with it?
1044
00:45:42,521 --> 00:45:43,977
Which is what's so brilliant
about it,
1045
00:45:44,001 --> 00:45:45,500
and he finds ways
to sort of visualize it.
1046
00:45:45,524 --> 00:45:46,884
I think that's why
it's so popular,
1047
00:45:46,917 --> 00:45:48,136
because it goes so much deeper
1048
00:45:48,179 --> 00:45:49,746
than your average slasher movie.
1049
00:45:49,790 --> 00:45:52,531
This is just a dream.
He isn't real.
1050
00:45:52,575 --> 00:45:54,272
He isn't real.
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