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[Music]
Thanks I'm so good to see so many people
here in glee blissfully and I'm one of
the local counselors here my name's
Chris piece and I know a lot of you here
so and it's really good to see people
from the valley from a little bit
further beyond and some people from a
long way beyond and we've got Jeremy
here who's come to join us today and and
I know that there's so many things that
we're all united in knowing is wrong
with our society and that's the reason
that we're here to share our concerns
and to find that common ground and to
look at how we go forward to making
things better and gentleman at the back
yes yes hi Jeremy my name is Dave and
I'm chair an organization called
disability labor which is basically
disabled members of the Labour Party and
because of the support you've given
disabled people and other minorities in
society we have nominated you for later
the Labour Party you will be aware that
the plight of disabled people in society
since this government and the previous
one
the previously condemned government
given has been quite appalling that
they've had benefit cuts that there's
been an increase in disability here
crime could you give us a brief a vision
of how you see the lives of disabled
people under a Labour government with
you as liberal Minister one is to
restore the cuts in the benefits that
have taken place two is to guarantee the
personal independence payment system
which I know the government tried to
remove in the budget in April and then
retreated on it a few days later at
nevertheless the the threat of taking
away and it amounts to four billion
pounds in expenditure is huge and could
come back in the Autumn Statement
thirdly is completely changing the whole
mentality around in surrounding the
capability of a work test into one where
people with disabilities want to work
the employer if they take them on should
be supported in taking them on with a
depth a
if necessary but also send the message
out there that any of us may be disabled
now or could very easily become disabled
we could cross that road get knocked
over and suddenly we've lost the use of
a legs or or whatever else and we're
then going to suddenly realize how life
changes and how a society that actually
includes everybody could be very very
different from society we've got at the
present time so it's a it's an attitude
in the psyche and mentality of all of us
we've got to change as well just as much
as we have to change it in respect of
mental health and mental health issues
or something I also feel very very
strongly and very very passionately
about and lady here sorry I am so I'm a
counselor and I've been having to try
and help single men who have been made
unemployed or they've been off sick due
to accidents and they've had the the
sick pay stopped they're in desperate
need and then they go for the interviews
to see if they can get it employment
supports and it so they can't get it and
they're in the right State and I've
pointed them towards some assistance
places and as you say it's they've been
taken to a tribunal and usually they've
won the case but it's so humiliating and
degrading to have to go through that and
we don't want need that type of system
that we need a better system yeah and I
mean at the moment it's like the carers
allowance it's still hovering around 60
pounds a week for a full-time job I
myself am a parent carer and we fear
every year that the rest I will be
caught and you're no fault of your the
local council but because of of the
course and that will just be a disaster
will be a tragedy and it will lead to a
lot of families going into the social
services system it really aids on the
carers and carers allowance it's
insufficient it was a big campaign to
get any kind of carers of outs in the
first place and having achieved that it
should be upgraded and up rated with
them
it's insufficient the need for respite
care and respite care facilities is very
very important so that both get a break
the the person who's cared for as well
as the carer is very important if we
didn't have carers what would actually
be the case either those with severe
multiple disabilities would be taken in
to some form of care at very great cost
with very inadequate care often provide
as we have in the past before the
concept of Independent Living came in
and so there are kind of underrated
under recognized and undervalued massive
resource for all of us and should be
respected for what they do I understand
that we do need to look at trying to
raise standards of living for people
that are carers people with disabilities
and everything else what I also want to
link into that is the prevention side of
that because what I'm I'm a trade union
rep and a lot of the cases I deal with
are people dealing with stress at work
and it is actually stress work-related
stress and trying to get employers to
recognize that and actually do something
about it even the HSE don't always
recognize it if we do act we encourage
people to accident and instant
performance because actually it is that
it's something that the employer needs
to take responsibility for I have a
member at the moment he's he was
witnessed to her suicide where the train
hit somewhere he suffered with PTSD the
company is just allowed him to go on and
on and on we've been trying to gain Hill
health retirement and they go into
panels and panels and panels and you
know this place is if the company don't
want to understand his need I mean
recently I was working with a young
woman who have been a sanction she's 19
years old and she's homeless and she
phoned me up in in a flood of tears and
we was able to help her and and I'm
hoping I'm not seeing it for a couple
weeks but she had an integral evolve and
she's got a job and you sorted out with
the house things so there's that all
raft of stuff for young people it's them
you know they can be affected by all
sorts of things you've totally talked
about some of them
it might be illness in the family a
family breaks up and in fact they find
themselves in a situation that they
probably never never dreamed up I myself
am 62 year old well last year I was
sanctioned for 13 weeks because I didn't
accept a job a place I never had any
interview at the DWP are making these
things up and functioning people 13
weeks they expected me to go out and at
the time again any advice from anyone so
I took it upon myself I went to the
place where they said that I'd have the
job interview
they've got no record of me I then got a
letter from them to take it back there
to the Job Center who eventually back
down and decided that I could be paid
but then I also got told by this lady at
the Job Center every adviser has got to
a sanction at least five people per week
can I bring you in on that yeah I did
want to touch on that because people
don't I don't a lot of people don't
actually know when we talk about
sanctions that people being sanctioned
for weeks and months and years roll in
and you get a lecture about a month
later with absolutely nothing but you
know people starve to death than the
food
last night I was trying to save a guy's
life because it was it was suicidal
today I managed to get in the help that
he needs
now it is about class the poor poor of
this country are not giving any
opportunities in this country at all
anymore we used to have I remember being
able to go to college do you about going
to university slip in a job step out of
a job that isn't a plan anymore
being poor makes you depressed you makes
you malnourished malnutrition doesn't
mean to starving it means you're eating
the wrong type of food and what got into
the press the other day is that the fact
the figures the malnutrition figures ads
are one of the highest on the the points
that were made yourself about
sanctioning and attitudes well I'm
absolutely fed up with the way in which
a lot of our papers have fallen into the
thing about
stay in bed Britain's scrounger Britain
they are all scroungers dossers etc etc
etc well sorry people don't actually
choose to be poor they don't choose to
live in that sort of way for the very
large majority they want some kind of
respect and decency within their lives
and before last summer our party it
unfortunately often indulged in this
whole activity and used some pretty bad
language and we were invited to abstain
on the welfare reform bill just over a
year ago on the basis that the Tories
had won the general election and
therefore we had to accept the majority
of the population we're actually against
people receiving welfare well the two
things don't arithmetic me add up never
never mind the morals behind it and so
we have as you've probably noticed since
then completely changed our approach and
I'm absolutely determined we're going to
carry on with a changed approach about
social security in Britain
my name is save Parliament local
businessmen my question is about
European Union so we have made decision
to go out of European Union just shortly
and British Pound is getting weaker
every day is melted by 25% so we do not
know where we send them if we go in out
of the European Union if we were
continuing so it is unknown moment like
to ask about if you were a prime
minister which we open what would you do
going to stay like that or going out
what will be the benefit on the
businesses because at the moment we have
got the problem with that it wasn't a
result I wanted I wanted us to remain
and reform the European Union I didn't
think it was perfect but I wanted it
reformed particularly the sort of
free-market instincts that there were so
many in the European Union
however we will give the result we've
got we have to urgently agree on a
number of things one we retain consumer
protection environmental protection
workers protection rights that we've
gained through European regulation we
have to maintain the market access to
Europe
for British manufactured goods and
British financial services into the
European Union and we have to have a
sensible good trading relationship with
the European Union because we're going
to be the neighbours of it whatever
relationship is so I've set up a meeting
with the Norwegian Labour Party to look
at the Norwegian model where they're not
members the European Union but they act
very closely with the European Union
we're still members of the Council of
Europe we're still members of the
Organization for Security and
Cooperation in Europe there has to be a
continuing relationship with the
European Union trade treaties at the
moment are all done through the European
Union we could make our own trade
treaties but I'm absolutely clear I'm
not going to sign up to transatlantic
trade and investment partnership and
what goes with that but I do I do
recognize we've either got to do trading
via the European Union or set up our own
trade treaties we have to recognize the
result work with that result and protect
the best we got from being in the
European Union and develop ourselves
into an efficient investment strong
manufacturing economy in Britain with a
lowest level of investment in
manufacturing infrastructure and
everything else of any other country
what some of the Tories want is us to
become a low tax low wage
bargain-basement economy on the shores
of Europe I want us to be a place of
investment of growth of sustainability
and opportunity for all of our young
people with a good relationship with our
neighbors across the channel right so
that was pretty clear it'll be a prison
is very clear that the thing that I
always think about example Council for
latest I I always think that this estate
was built for a city that was have
centuries of manufacturing and industry
and we've had that being art taken out
of this city and the people to get from
those to have full employment again is
bang-on what Jeremy said we need
investment in manufacturing we need to
bring back industry that's the way to
get more people into work because the
industry down there what people want out
that's the main thing you know that we
should be looking at now he's not just
industry and growth for growth's sake we
should be talking about a green new deal
we all have read the papers in the last
few days we will have noticed that July
is the hottest month in earth and yet
nobody seems to be bothered about that
we've talked it as the started of this
talking about what what sort of UT do we
want for our days and that you know wait
everybody butyl if that's how it is the
way things that we now the Tories of
relegated climate change to their - I
don't know the 500 priority of change
manator think they're not bothered about
the climate change act and so we've got
to a position now that with labour party
there'll be lots of jobs in it for lots
of people all the energy efficiency that
needs to do for all these hours of the
year the refuge Sheffield the rest of
the country plenty away from lots of
fall and it's not soon to work for you
know your adequate to universities
workforce to ordinary working-class folk
and these plenty to be done can I give
you an example of how we can move that
forward and thanks for your point I was
in a couple weeks ago in Swansea talking
to a group of cancers there who've
managed to get the funding together for
Swansea to build by direct labour a new
housing estate all houses to passive
house standards so what are they
achieving good housing affordable social
rent lifetime tenancy passive house
standards their folders zero or
negligible energy costs for the tenants
moving in to those properties and
obviously protection of the environment
as a whole we've got to change our
attitude towards the environment and
towards energy there is a great many
jobs can be created by sustainable
agriculture sustainable manufacturing
which actually has some regard for the
environment I think with the environment
not against the environment I'm a
mentality who works
[Applause]
what the gentleman said before about
reinvesting in our manufacturing base
that's what we need to do we don't want
to be a low-wage Zilla wala contract
bargain-basement offshore we need to
rebuild what made cities like Sheffield
Middlesbrough and Newcastle and Leeds
great rebuild our manufacturing allows
young monster as well green
manufacturing as well now I'm a youth
worker I've been a youth worker in
Sheffield for nearly 50 years
one of the things that really upsets me
now is that when you look at the
services for young people it's all about
their future that's fine but if you
screw up their present they don't have a
future and one of the things that Youth
Work does is to work with young people
now and it's so youth it's a
relationship with with our dolts that's
without sanction at the moment it's been
stripped out of the system and then we
wonder why we have things like young
people in crisis young people who were
homeless I mean I want to just build on
that ask you about education and
aspiration because I think it's
systematically being crushed and sadly
it was started by our party with the
introduction of student fees my dad came
to this country when he was about 12 you
worked in the steel works I went to a
local comprehensive as did my sisters we
were very lucky to benefit from free
education my sister got a first class
honours in chemistry and a PhD and I
qualified as a barrister I still live in
the area that I grew up which is Tinsley
which is apart of the East End of
Sheffield and we would not be in the
positions that we are were it not for
the opportunities that were given to us
and also the fact that we could dream
and those dreams seemed attainable now
they are systematically being crushed
what was your debt when you left
University I was very very lucky because
there was times I survived on 10 pounds
a week I my maintenance grant was just
enough to cover my rent I actually came
out of a university with no debt but
that was because I had a father who came
to this country with virtually nothing
making sure that I did things properly
but now you know as a professional I
look at my two children
and and I can't imagine that I can give
them the help that my father gave me
they're going to come out with 40,000
pounds if they're lucky of death which
is enough we used to be enough to buy a
house here if I had not had the benefit
of free education if I'd not have the
support if my dreams hadn't been
encouraged I wouldn't be doing the job I
do now and there's so many people I meet
in areas like this areas like Tinsley
I'm a see so much talent in them they
have so much ability but you just think
I can't go to University and what's
happening now is that forget about
attacks on students dreams are being
crushed people say you're not a leader
you've inspired me it made me join make
my wife join my children support you my
daughter thinks you're obi-wan Kenobi by
the way although I do joke with it if
you watch any films you know when it's
really bad you need a mature man with a
white beard coming home but you know you
you have inspired as you've moved us
because if people think a leader is
something that Blair was or Cameron was
that's synthetic it's Hollow
a leader is somebody that can move
people can motivate people and that's
what you've done and then the thing that
I like about you that I the oh and I
don't think even comes close to bring it
to the table I'm a firm believer you
have your principles and our job is to
convince people to move towards us if
their dog
we don't change our principle we work
hard at what we shouldn't become which
is what I think labor became was a vet
weathervane forever spinning trying to
find the prevailing wind to get people
to vote for us no I think the reason why
hundreds of thousands of people have
come because in you they see hope they
see what really Labour was what I grew
up seeing what Labour was myself when I
was in sixth form I was so passionate to
go to uni I finished my first day of une
now and I'm thinking is there something
else I could do because I don't think I
could continue with university because
literally not like when I finished
University I don't think it's so hard
for me to even think of getting a job
because when I come out you know the
stuff that I need to pay for it just
crazy one of my siblings she got a first
class degree and then she got thirsty a
first class degree and until now she
still hasn't been able to get a job
until now she's been struggling she
works so hard day and night just so then
she can get a job and she studied
biomedical science and there's no
opportunity for I'm student engineer and
I think I don't even think I have
opportunity because I was going on my
sister my sister's in for a master's to
study in pharmacy and she doesn't even
think I would speak to her yesterday she
doesn't even think she's gonna succeed
because she's working two part-time jobs
so then she can live so then she can
live on our study we're literally
struggling everyone I speak to students
then literally they're struggling no one
know us I spoke to so many students
because I'm part of my Students Union
and I speak to so many students like a
younger there are 16 17 or 18 and
literally they have so much talent but
literally they can't afford it their
parents are struggling and literally we
reach the gala parents like supporting
the same go to universities so then you
can you can be in a better situation
than us distribute so much and us at
like a few months ago in May I sat down
with one of uni lecturers because I was
running for position within the Union
and I was doing research about the BMI
attainment gap so many people are
leaving universe
because they literally stood within the
first three months not the first
literally I was having depression my
first three months I was literally
struggling so much University I don't
know what's going on like if I was going
to continue so many of my friends
there's so much passion they were clever
and they dropped out within the first
three months if you shatter people's
dreams if you break their backs before
they get a chance to qualify to achieve
things like this young brother wants to
and then you try to make out some kind
of meritocracy isn't and also debt it
what it does it makes you risk-averse
when all you've got is a tenner you
become risk-averse or when you've got 40
grands worth of debt you don't want to
take chances and what you don't have
time to do is be to be a critical
thinker to hold government to account
because all you're doing is running in
the wheel trying to pay off your debts
we need to bring up our children to
understand each other to work with each
other obviously to make the best of
their own lives but also to understand
where what we have has come from and how
it was achieved our kids are not brought
up to understand that they brought up to
believe that somehow or other one day
Parliament's would be a really good idea
to have a National Health Service let's
do it they didn't say the struggles that
went on for decades for the principle
behind it likewise the principle of
comprehensive education as opposed to
selective and more elitist education I
don't require every young person to go
to university any more than I require
every young person to get a good-quality
apprenticeship but I do require a
society that gives every young person an
opportunity to get apprenticeship or go
to university so that the the
opportunity is there and not be saddled
with the debt at the end of it what
we've done is turned education into a
commodity for under fives and a
commodity for over 18 we've had 30 years
of being told that neoliberal economics
is they got the only answer to
everything no it doesn't it's a question
of expanding community involvement
empowering communities great people
don't go off and achieve things on their
own
ordinary people achieve things because
all of us come together to make sure
that we all benefit from it
when you bring people together you
achieve things when you divide people we
all lose surely the great strength we've
got in the labour party is that we have
this massive membership now half a
million people they can be that
community campaigning pressure in our
community that can be a force for so
much good I think it'll be a long time
before the Daily Mail The Daily Express
or the Evening Standard or The Telegraph
or any of those papers even begin to
understand what community politics in
community force is about but they'll
understand it when we show that strength
of unity that can bring about the
changes in the mentality and attitudes
in our society which can bring about
real justice for everybody it's very
much fun that's what you stand for and
that's why they trying to destroy you
and what you stand for they understand
it don't worry about it it's only Jeremy
this talk about workers rights and
actually meaning it if we need a more
equal society we need better workers
rights and get rid of this anti trade
union law that's just been affecting its
cooperation not competition and the
fundamental difference is in this
leadership campaign is same old status
quo versus proper change proper progress
if you want hope you've got one choice
thank you thank you thank you very much
we've done well today the rain has
stopped the Sun has come out what's
better than one
and it looks to me even more people here
tonight than the were in the leadership
campaign rally we held here a year ago
thank you all of you very much for
coming along here tonight we need to
stand up together or do people need to
stand together and try and work together
to make change in our society the rich
are standing together the rich managed
to go out and vote for the Tories and
make sure they protect their interests
and we need to start signing up for our
interests our biggest problem was that
there wasn't a clear enough alternative
being put by us to the people of this
country we were also accepting the
argument that the banking crisis of 2008
9 somehow other had to be paid for by
cutting the services that are necessary
for the majority of people in this
country but accepting that the very
buzzy and Nora tea would continue to be
very wealthy and indeed become even
wealthier as a result of the tax system
that we've got less than two weeks and
I've joined Labour Party because of
Jeremy Corbyn reason being I'm 19 I'm a
student I'm a Muslim and being me and I
believe that Jeremy Corbyn and his
campaign will tackle this issue it is
the function of government to reach out
to everybody in our society it is the
function of government to set up a
national investment bank 500 billion
parents being made available for
investment all over the country in
crucial infrastructure but also housing
and also being prepared to invest in
manufacturing industry so those
high-tech developments those high-tech
discoveries those good-quality
sustainable jobs are supported by a
public investment which will improve the
living standards
and indeed the tax income of government
of everybody in the future rather than
the few it's about public investment on
a public realm majority in this country
they are not and we need the poor to get
a fair deal these it and this is why I
need Liberian power again I want the
Labour Party to be there for those
people who didn't vote last time and to
educate those to come over to this style
of politics what Jamie's campaign has
done is open the door to a new tide of a
vibrant democracy it's led by young
people that can give them a voice and
can give them a giver as a hope for real
political engagement in the future as I
joined the Labour Party become for you
and I'll be campaigning for you thank
you very much all righty thank you hi
how you know really good to see ya of
course coach can I see them up yet and
all of that you've got my support all of
us and thanks for what you said I really
don't know you deserve it mm-hmm thank
you met all of our you sir okay take
care you'll find out it sure thank you
thanks for the delivery commonly called
the liver room last week before we know
what he kept a like seven pound per hour
plus one pound by delivery but since
last week they change the pay structure
they are not going to pay hourly rate
they're going to change it for 3 pounds
zombified by delivery so the drivers who
ever worked for the liberal what
happened is they end up going to get
hourly pay like I said the wedding two
hours outside for the delivery and they
got only one delivery in two hours they
are getting paid only 3075 for two hours
I suppose we would fall into the
category of the working poor and we've
we've been on 13 strikes in 2014 to try
and achieve the de London living wage
it's connected with the delivered what
the delivery routes a worker said and I
work at a Women's Centre and we work
with women of color immigrant women who
were over-represented in no wage work
caring
health care zero many and zero hour
contracts and we see directly the effect
that low wages have on women and that
combines with the cuts in benefit
because first first of all they cut
asylum-seekers money down to almost
nothing and that's been extended to
millions of others and benefits are like
our safety net work and we would very
much support and and call for others to
support delivery you know we need all of
us to go up together not just women in
Parliament but also grassroots women to
go up as well
I am a nurse and our pay has been
attacked since 2010 we've lost 15% of
our pay now we've got another three
years of papers strength coming up and
nurses are leaving the health care
service in their droves we have nurses
accessing food banks the amount of
colleagues that I have telling me that
accessing food banks is disgusting we
have nurses that there was a study in
the winter that can't afford to heat the
home they can't afford to put food on
the table for their children they're
working like 80 hour weeks just to be
able to have be able to afford to pay
their rent in London and nursing is in
such a bad state
and they also downtrodden for years and
years and years it really really
concerns me about what's going to happen
because I don't know if there will be
any fight back and as it stands nursing
really hangs in the balance
our whole profession is in tatters so
it's not not so good I'm a doctor and we
were totally numb bastard in a lot of
the press without any of our concerns
being relayed to the public at all they
they lied quite frankly about what the
real issues were and painted us as I'm
sure they will with you as being you
know greedy and selfish and demanding
things beyond your value when it's just
not the case and it's just very a very
concerning change in the culture whereby
the voice of the workers is being
totally
and it's only really through union
action that we have seen some of the
most progressive changes in working
rights in history gender equality racial
equality in the workplace and I just
think it's a very very alarming state of
affairs thank you something to mention
that for me for me personally so within
the BMA and one of the most valuable
lessons that we learn and one the most
uplifting things was the opportunity to
build links with other unions so it was
about it was about us you know working
with the hospital cleaners who were also
on strike with the UT with the teachers
and unity who are also striking with the
the NHS student bursaries campaigns it
was really about building those sorts of
links across the board that that's
really what then meant that we were able
to to bring the government back to the
negotiating table but yeah I was an
awful lot to say about that whole thank
you a former local government employee
and whether for 25 years but previous to
that I worked in private industry so I
kind of knew the difference and 25 years
ago it was wonderful to work in local
government you had good trade unions
good equal opportunities local people
employed especially women black women
were working-class and I've seen it seen
it disintegrate and where I've left it
now it's micro managed the trade unions
have been decimated it's really hard
struggle and it's just so sad to see it
all the equal opportunities I see a just
getting weaker weaker well it simply
it's across all industries I does the
public sector private sector was seen
out as well
you know there's been paid freezes
across the private sector for years and
in the steel industry in particular we
haven't had pay raises for the last
three four years and for some of our
people within the industry of actually
our pay cuts because of the way that
we've restructured and suchlike it seems
to be an attack on the working person
all the way through and it knocks on to
your communities as well fit in the
steel industry reticular we got all this
uncertainty at the moment you know we
got people be then in our industry who
want to move
wanted to get mortgages but a mortgage
company will not touch anybody at the
moment it works with data because of the
uncertainty because we've got the zero
hour contracts now which are and really
blackmailing and peace people because if
if you're an agency worker you're not
you know if you say I can turn up for
work today
you know you blackmailed and you're
saying if you don't turn up today then
we're not going to give you any work the
conditions are very bad they don't have
work-life balance and it's really bad
that and these are allowed to carry on
and something really needs to be done
because people are being exploited thank
you and gentleman at the back in the red
yeah hi I work for ISS and I'm a union
rep as well and at the moment in our
hospital we are facing reorganization by
a private contractor and effects it has
on the workers in terms of the reduction
in ours reduction in wages and all
aspects of their shift work is being
decimated and the government is not
doing anything to support the working
person within the workplace in terms of
protection the unions can do as much as
they can but if their power is limited
in terms of how much they do for the
people they are not effective they are
ineffective at the moment we are facing
cuts in all the services which is going
to impact on the local community the
workers the hospital standards as well
but in 10 you know we actually need
somebody to speak up for us yeah I just
wanted to make a point about unions I
was recently made redundant my
organization didn't recognize unions so
it was a difficult process for me to be
made redundant from a job and NACA
confidence but also really faced the
fact that I couldn't afford an
employment tribunal and was also warned
various people in and around the
organization that if I had took them to
neeti I've had the grounds to do so it
would cause me some harm for my future
career
the other thing really I was told that
it could take months of my energy and
time and just eat me up as an individual
at the same time looking for new work
and looking after my family that it
could be really detrimental to go
through that whole process thank you the
way that that's kind of what I wanted to
talk about is this huge increase in
management bullying for those staff that
in my lighter I've seen that rising
honestly and not just in in the private
sector but in the public sector and no
schoolteachers were and an often
concomitant with that is you've got
people at the top who paid astronomical
salaries and it's in their vested
interest to be bullies and I really do
think that needs to be addressed and we
need some representation of staff in
workplaces oh yeah I think there's a
there's another section of erican class
in the public sector it's very often
forgotten about in all this and it's the
Armed Forces and they're subjected to
housing crisis at the moment and their
pay is frozen I believe and they're
subject to redundancies and stuff like
that and they have no unions they have
no unions or they've got to rely on is
the mo D and so the odds aren't good as
a former soldier the mo D's in that
trustworthy so I mean where where'd you
go with them and I think this could be a
strong hand for you Jeremy because as we
know the veteran vote was very important
after 45 that settlement that you know
these are people they do have votes and
they have very little protection and
they also have mental health issues is a
big thing in the military as well but
I'm it's a difficult one to deal with I
know but I'll be interested to hear when
people think about this kind of hidden
section of working people who are out
there and veterans as well once you've
left the services yeah thank you
fundamental to everything we've been
discussing this morning is about rights
of representation and rights to have
some effect on our own environment so in
opposition what we've done now is set up
workplace to
20 which is fundamentally about
fulfilling basic international labour
organization convention rights giving
automatic rights of trade union
representation whether the union is
recognized in your workplace or not your
right to say I'm a member of unite I'm a
member of unison every union it is I
demand to be represented by that person
counsel employment tribunal fees and the
cost that can be awarded against them
it's a right to justice for all of us
those things are basically important but
it's also looking at exploitation in
lots of ways so zeros contracts are part
of it the deliver rule example sport
direct with and having forced to pay a
million pounds back now in unpaid unpaid
minimum pay wages so is about forcing
changes which have only come where
there's been a union involvement sport
direct was only because you know I took
up the case delivery because he got
together in a union and made some some
progress I realize you know a long way
off what you're trying to achieve but
you have made a lot of progress and
people begin to understand it but it's
also about representation of
self-employed workers there are several
million people in Britain working a
self-employed people some of them are
kind of doing all right many are
actually as badly exploited as people in
work you know whether the company that
they've done work for simply refuses to
pay them and they said what you're going
to do about it the points that are made
about the steel industry fundamentally
if we could have a manufacturing economy
in Britain you've got to have a steel
industry steel is fundamental to
everything it's fundamental to transport
it's fundamental to construction it's
fundamental in every way in our society
nothing happens without still being
involved in some way or the other this
building wouldn't exist without steel
girls that hold it up and so on and so
on you know you know all of that so the
future Port Talbot is being decided by
essentially commercial negotiations
between two global corporations
going to decide whether it's tartar or
somebody else that runs the company the
missing element in this was the UK
government until the steel workers made
enough fuss about it there is some
degree of involvement there has to be
either complete or an element of public
ownership in the industry there has to
be an industrial strategy there has to
be a national investment bank
sufficiently funded to invest in
infrastructure across the country roads
railways particularly railways broadband
digital and housing but also being
prepared to invest in new products and
new industries how many great inventions
were made in this country where hedge
funds buy them up and sell them to
somewhere else abroad or how many cases
where there's a small company doing
quite well developing new products maybe
a good employer cooperative what else
cannot access bank capital despite the
fact that we have generously given the
bank's three hundred and eighty billion
pounds in quantitative easing
we're very generous people and they are
not prepared to invest in those
industrial products so what I want is a
national investment bank which will be
prepared to invest in new industries and
development this all sounds incredibly
revolutionary left-wing only in a
context we've had 30 years of lectures
of neoliberal economics if this was a
similar meeting in any German State
people and say well we do all that
already we're going to just go back to
our topic out the way that we want to
cover that we haven't got to you and
we've already talked about how it links
you know the question of the Iraq war
and the voices of the people involved in
that so can I mean is it okay if I have
somebody from there just to start us off
well just speak very briefly about it
you know I'm I'm personally suffering at
the moment with PTSD since coming home
from Iraq and I don't honestly know
what's worse being shelled by people
that I don't know I've got no problems
with war having to deal every day with a
weakened NHS they do want to help but
they have no money to do so you know
I've seen several friends die you know
from overdoses and things like that's
it's coming out it's absolutely awful I
don't know what we did there you know I
feel like my mental health was swapped
for a few barrels of oil and that
you know it's quite a hard pill to
swallow I don't see the government
wanting to make any changes you know
we've got air strikes in Syria we're
dealing with Saudi Arabia but I have to
wait an hour enough sorry a year and a
half tacacs Esther just a basic
therapist to talk about my problems you
know I'd be on the streets if it wasn't
for my partner Vicki and she's living
its hell with me and I don't know you
know I'd like to see Jeremy what you how
you try and help us in the future if you
came to power
I was undiagnosed with PTSD and when I
came home I like many other people who
you know I've served we've ended up
getting into a bit of a fight because I
was undiagnosed I was sentenced to a
year and a half in military prison still
undiagnosed and then discharged from the
Army and it's its prey but it's been an
awful experience if I'm if I'm honest
with you because we felt that it's been
no help do not I mean assist thank you
very much for sharing that with us other
people you know this is something that
you know these these are the people that
went out and fought that but obviously
this was a decision was made on our on
our half off largely against the will of
the people at the time so I'm sure
people have got thoughts about this John
to come in yeah I think the issue of you
well first of all thank you very much
for sharing I know I think it the issue
of the Iraq Wars completely fractured
British society and I think you know
you're coming from that region my family
migrated and seeing the effects that our
foreign policy has on both people here
at home but also people abroad and the I
mean often as a society I feel like
because it's far away we don't see it we
we we tend not to talk about it and like
I know my family in our community is
completely disengaged with the Labour
Party once once we went in what I
believe it's not just my you know
tinkerbell belief but was in a legal war
that we engaged in that has seen the
region torn apart now we're seeing a
refugee crisis that is born out of that
and it's it's the cumulative effect of
what we do and you know we have we have
modern Iraq war crisis going on now the
question of Syria the question of
Palestine that's still gone up you know
we still have fundamental problems but
then I think I mean I think we have to
take the issues of foreign policy very
very seriously and see that they have
very very limp axe back at home but also
that our our moral guidelines should
extend beyond our borders the fact that
you know over a million people have died
in Iraq following what was an illegal
war you know the politics that we have
should extend beyond our borders and
what is the British channel you know
like and I think it's something that's
fractured society altogether yes I was
in the brims of a brilliantly devised
war in Afghanistan I saw no Dan from the
military as well I just wanted to I
remember
it struck me during the or the brexit
staff is always stuff but all the right
what kind of lease like made out the EU
is kind of like Spectre in James Bond
analogies it was all about sovereignty
and stuff like that but it was never
discussed there's this other if you're
really worried about sovereignty and my
lesson the lesson I learned is the
soldiers you have to think about the
other side of the Atlantic there's a
relationship there and I know Jeremy's
of shared platforms with Jeremy's bit
opposed those wars and the way we hang
on to American foreign policy
brilliantly obvious but I think there's
a serious discussion if we are worried
about sovereignty I mean there are no EU
there were never any EU bases on British
soil there are American ones the EU
never drags into Iraq and then
Afghanistan and then Iraq again and
Libya and Syria so I think that a
component of a foreign policy going
forward has to address the special
relationship with Americans I have now
no down at ofing dan has any doubt I
don't think the rest of the 400 people
in our veterans organization have any
doubt a lot we were fired for a u.s.
foreign policy nothing to do with with
with Britain and keeping our streets
safe by being over air or any of this
rubbish I think it's important we
address that relationship with America
thank you over here I really appreciate
your point and families and communities
are absolutely devastated I'm so glad
that you spoke and I think that that is
one of the reasons that we so welcome
the new leadership of the Labour Party
because we think it would be a way to
deal with that really
dangerous connection with following us
US policy and I would just underline to
pick up your point that you know holes
so I mean with the pictures of Syria are
absolutely horrifying that whole whole
whole regions people are being bombed
killed maimed and those who flee from
that heard that hell are then treated as
criminals you know when we get here I
mean I'm an immigrant myself so I think
those connections we really need to
build on we all all our societies are
being devastated by war and we really
look to Jeremy and John to help to help
turn that around because we we just we
cannot live this way my very last point
is that the the stealing of the oil that
that you know that the Britain the US
and the corporations are absolutely
plundering the third world and that
money is going to the 1% we never see it
here we you know our services are
deprived and there's a long history I
mean we've had five hundred years of
robbery from Africa India so I mean I
think as people of color that's
something that we want to bring to the
movement my last point although I know
we're talking about terrible things is
we're seeing you know in our Women's
Center there's there's new hope there's
new energy
people are coming in excited and wanting
to work you know on the campaign and I
think that we also have to keep that in
mind that there's really hope that we
haven't seen before so we want to go
forward in that way so I mean I just
wanted to follow on really from both of
those points I mean as as you say if you
want to challenge if you're worried
about sovereignty of the challenge that
the Washington Consensus that Atlantis
this relationship you have to challenge
you know the City of London but and
that's why you're you're being attacked
because you represent something that is
tech fortunately not in this room you
represent something that is so dangerous
to those vested in
they don't like it's not Jeremy sweetie
and that's what I like somebody who
knows what's right in this world thank
you millions why don't ya we'll come
back to Jeremy so I just wanted to talk
about homelessness so I started working
with homeless young people in the heart
of Houston a day Center in 1998 and
predominantly then we got many young
people from around the country for Milan
Scotland places like this from the North
young people who typically became homes
because they escaped and neglect abuse
and these type situations some people
that wanted to come and just you know
come to the big city and get a job we've
always had part of our homeless
population being veterans now I
volunteer with in different
organizations including food banks and
walking around Camden my borough and
different boroughs the increase in
homelessness is back
I saw a man begging on the street and he
looked malnourished and on the verge of
dying and most people and I watched 10
minutes most people he was invisible
completely - and I had a conversation
with the cab driver today and he felt
that people were homeless because they
weren't strong enough and this is the
perception that they failed at life
they're not good enough somehow they
just couldn't get it together it's their
fault and actually it's not true and now
we're seeing a steep increase in
homelessness and much of it has to do
with them people's attitudes towards
homelessness I mean many people
unfortunately had this path laid out for
them they're brought up in areas of
deprivation in towns where there's no
longer industries anymore and again
because of the abuse that they ignore
many of them disproportionately receive
at home can we just say that this is a
really very valuable and very good
discussion far better than any focus
group I've ever been
of dim and we'll have to work out how we
do it but it's got to be some way that
not exactly random but groups like
ourselves can be brought together to
continue this kind of discussion and
debate because political change only
comes about when a lot of people
mobilize together to achieve it and that
it's obviously fundamental to everything
that we're talking about believing so
whilst we one-level we're talking about
a series of policy issues mental health
housing health education war and peace
environment so on it's also about a
level of consciousness and understanding
and while social media is a great way of
instantly and rapidly communicating with
people it often can be superficial and
cannot go into the sort of life
experiences that we're talking about
here they help to form our opinions and
so I'm not quite sure how it can be done
but let's work out ways of doing it cuz
I want the sort of thing to carry on I'm
sure you will I hope you all do as well
on the the issue has been raised over
Iraq think back to the Gulf War of 1990
1991 there was an enormous use of
depleted uranium in southern Iraq after
the the troops went into southern Iraq
after Kuwait and that led to camia's
cancers and a health crisis all over
southern Iraq and led to 10 years of
sanctions on Iraq which didn't have much
effect whatsoever on the regime but had
a massive effect on the people of the of
the whole country the effect of the
regime was actually pretty minimal and
Britain was happily selling arms to Iraq
up until the late 1980s and I remember
being roundly abused by people in
Parliament for questioning the arms
sales strategy to sell I was saying and
they said well you've gotta sell arms or
everywhere ever anybody wants to buy
them and I said well sometimes these
things come back to bite you is it what
would you know about it I said well just
an innocent person just making an
observation
then we go into the build-up to the Iraq
war in 2003 and I remember a meeting a
group of Labour MPs had we Tony Blair we
sat around a table we went through all
the arguments several times and I just
said look Tony why are we doing this and
he slapped his hand on the table he said
we're doing it because it's the right
thing to do there's no analysis there
was no credible explanation of anything
so it went into Iraq we lost soldiers
the Americans lost soldiers the Iraqis
lost soldiers civilians died and it's
led to one war after another after
another after another it was a seminal
turning point in British politics and I
pledged last year that we would make an
apology for Iraq we did so along the
Chilcott report came out and I just felt
this horror but people like yourself
that suffered in Iraq those that died in
Iraq people then said well what was it
all for what was it all for there has to
be a change in attitude on foreign
policy it's too easy to build up kind of
patriotic fervor and say we're going to
go in there and sort it out it's very
easy to vote to send somebody else's son
or daughter off to a place of danger
when you're not doing it yourself and so
I well I've spent my life on opposing
these things and want to see foreign
policy based on peace based on democracy
based on human rights and based on
justice and in the with us Tyrael things
that we may well be appointing in the
future let's have a minister for
disarmament and a minister
Pease as well who is pursuing those
things around the world and looking to
enforce the non-proliferation treaty
rather than pretending it's an obstacle
to rearmament
it's a question of attitude the refugee
crisis around the world now is the
biggest it's ever been in recorded
history there's more displaced people
around the world there's any time in
recorded human history and there are
lots of reasons environmental human
rights Wars lots and lots of reasons why
people are refugees and the numbers of
refugees that go into the poorest
countries is very high India took a lot
of refugees from Sri Lanka Mexico took a
lot of refugees and Guatemala during the
Central American wars there are large
numbers of refugees in different African
countries because of the war in the
Congo and then likewise now with the
very large number of refugees in Libya
or in Jordan or in Greece or in Turkey
we have to deal with it by a political
solution in Syria demanding an urgent
ceasefire and bringing about a political
solution in Syria we also have to
recognize that the humanitarian crisis
requires a humanitarian response you
know to solve the refugee crisis with
barbed wire tear gas and electronic
surveillance
you only can solve it with humanitarian
approach as many other ices been raised
this morning it is about how we do our
politics how people educate themselves
and inform themselves and how they can
come together around a strategy which is
about social justice is about inequality
is about investment is about a growing
opportunities for young people rather
than leaving them debt ridden and
finding difficulty in getting jobs we're
not alone in this a lot of young people
in the United States and older in the
United States having exactly the same
kind discussion we're having now
likewise all across Europe maybe the
worm is turning on the neoliberal agenda
that was set down by Reagan and Thatcher
in the 1970s and so they see
historical justice time thanks very much
[Applause]
29th we were announce that we were up
for sale on March the 30th Jeremy Corbyn
broke away from his holiday in devon and
came and supported the still workers in
port talbot and the industry no
politician has been supports over I met
Jeremy I don't know if he remembers on a
street at Westminster and I was
screaming and going crazy because I've
been fighting for the student nurses
bursaries and you stopped to speak to me
and you gave me the time of day and you
listened to me and nobody else has
listened to me nobody else would step on
the street and talk to me about
something and you're the only person
that's done that and you listen you
really really listen to things that we
say to you I honestly think that Jeremy
Corbyn represents truth in politics
today and I don't think we see this
anywhere else and I think that is why
the force of the attack from wherever is
so strong and I think if we want truth
and we want honesty then I think this is
the man to vote for not we don't have
anybody who voices our concerns
apart from Jeremy thank you and I
believe that's the man for the people
for the first time in my life I've got
hope and our political system and I've
got hope that you know twelve months ago
we were able to achieve something that
was impossible and we can't take a step
back now and I think Jeremy John and
this kind of politics give young people
like me who have been marginalized
forever hope again huge percentage of
people out there now we don't vote in
general elections they're totally
disillusioned with with the political
system they're totally disillusioned
with politicians they've seen I think
Jeremy's the type of person who could
galvanize those people back to the
ballot box and hopefully vote for a
future government that cares a bit more
and Jeremy and John have stood alongside
me and just other disabled people as
we've been attacked again and again by
New Labour and by the
last two conservative governments and
that's why I am supporting Jeremy it
gives us hope but also just on the
environment it's always been at the
heart of Jeremy's policies been out in
Paris at the climate negotiations
outfits and flood victims understands
the need to invest in renewables in
order to move us away from fossil fuels
and start a green industry and also
understands it as a social justice issue
and how it does impact the poorest
people and how it will impact the
refugee crisis I just say something from
a queer and LGBT perspective that you've
been a you know in solidarity with with
our community your entire political
career and it's been really great to see
the hashtag lasers for Jessa
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