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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,020 --> 00:00:06,689 [Music] 2 00:00:08,599 --> 00:00:14,759 Thanks I'm so good to see so many people 3 00:00:11,968 --> 00:00:16,500 here in glee blissfully and I'm one of 4 00:00:14,759 --> 00:00:19,349 the local counselors here my name's 5 00:00:16,500 --> 00:00:21,059 Chris piece and I know a lot of you here 6 00:00:19,349 --> 00:00:23,099 so and it's really good to see people 7 00:00:21,059 --> 00:00:24,989 from the valley from a little bit 8 00:00:23,099 --> 00:00:27,750 further beyond and some people from a 9 00:00:24,989 --> 00:00:31,348 long way beyond and we've got Jeremy 10 00:00:27,750 --> 00:00:35,070 here who's come to join us today and and 11 00:00:31,349 --> 00:00:37,859 I know that there's so many things that 12 00:00:35,070 --> 00:00:40,590 we're all united in knowing is wrong 13 00:00:37,859 --> 00:00:42,869 with our society and that's the reason 14 00:00:40,590 --> 00:00:45,480 that we're here to share our concerns 15 00:00:42,869 --> 00:00:47,789 and to find that common ground and to 16 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:50,219 look at how we go forward to making 17 00:00:47,789 --> 00:00:52,920 things better and gentleman at the back 18 00:00:50,219 --> 00:00:54,509 yes yes hi Jeremy my name is Dave and 19 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,789 I'm chair an organization called 20 00:00:54,509 --> 00:00:58,890 disability labor which is basically 21 00:00:56,789 --> 00:01:00,899 disabled members of the Labour Party and 22 00:00:58,890 --> 00:01:03,750 because of the support you've given 23 00:01:00,899 --> 00:01:06,478 disabled people and other minorities in 24 00:01:03,750 --> 00:01:09,209 society we have nominated you for later 25 00:01:06,478 --> 00:01:12,390 the Labour Party you will be aware that 26 00:01:09,209 --> 00:01:13,678 the plight of disabled people in society 27 00:01:12,390 --> 00:01:14,070 since this government and the previous 28 00:01:13,679 --> 00:01:16,109 one 29 00:01:14,069 --> 00:01:18,419 the previously condemned government 30 00:01:16,108 --> 00:01:19,978 given has been quite appalling that 31 00:01:18,420 --> 00:01:21,659 they've had benefit cuts that there's 32 00:01:19,978 --> 00:01:24,358 been an increase in disability here 33 00:01:21,659 --> 00:01:26,640 crime could you give us a brief a vision 34 00:01:24,358 --> 00:01:28,349 of how you see the lives of disabled 35 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:31,019 people under a Labour government with 36 00:01:28,349 --> 00:01:32,608 you as liberal Minister one is to 37 00:01:31,019 --> 00:01:36,030 restore the cuts in the benefits that 38 00:01:32,608 --> 00:01:38,068 have taken place two is to guarantee the 39 00:01:36,030 --> 00:01:39,960 personal independence payment system 40 00:01:38,069 --> 00:01:42,780 which I know the government tried to 41 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:45,478 remove in the budget in April and then 42 00:01:42,780 --> 00:01:49,498 retreated on it a few days later at 43 00:01:45,478 --> 00:01:50,998 nevertheless the the threat of taking 44 00:01:49,498 --> 00:01:53,849 away and it amounts to four billion 45 00:01:50,998 --> 00:01:56,179 pounds in expenditure is huge and could 46 00:01:53,849 --> 00:01:59,879 come back in the Autumn Statement 47 00:01:56,179 --> 00:02:02,189 thirdly is completely changing the whole 48 00:01:59,879 --> 00:02:05,789 mentality around in surrounding the 49 00:02:02,188 --> 00:02:08,068 capability of a work test into one where 50 00:02:05,789 --> 00:02:10,650 people with disabilities want to work 51 00:02:08,068 --> 00:02:12,959 the employer if they take them on should 52 00:02:10,650 --> 00:02:13,539 be supported in taking them on with a 53 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,329 depth a 54 00:02:13,539 --> 00:02:21,218 if necessary but also send the message 55 00:02:16,329 --> 00:02:23,439 out there that any of us may be disabled 56 00:02:21,218 --> 00:02:25,810 now or could very easily become disabled 57 00:02:23,438 --> 00:02:28,180 we could cross that road get knocked 58 00:02:25,810 --> 00:02:30,340 over and suddenly we've lost the use of 59 00:02:28,180 --> 00:02:32,560 a legs or or whatever else and we're 60 00:02:30,340 --> 00:02:35,378 then going to suddenly realize how life 61 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:37,959 changes and how a society that actually 62 00:02:35,378 --> 00:02:40,539 includes everybody could be very very 63 00:02:37,959 --> 00:02:43,030 different from society we've got at the 64 00:02:40,539 --> 00:02:45,188 present time so it's a it's an attitude 65 00:02:43,030 --> 00:02:47,469 in the psyche and mentality of all of us 66 00:02:45,188 --> 00:02:49,449 we've got to change as well just as much 67 00:02:47,469 --> 00:02:51,818 as we have to change it in respect of 68 00:02:49,449 --> 00:02:54,068 mental health and mental health issues 69 00:02:51,818 --> 00:02:55,899 or something I also feel very very 70 00:02:54,068 --> 00:03:01,688 strongly and very very passionately 71 00:02:55,900 --> 00:03:04,688 about and lady here sorry I am so I'm a 72 00:03:01,688 --> 00:03:08,650 counselor and I've been having to try 73 00:03:04,688 --> 00:03:11,378 and help single men who have been made 74 00:03:08,650 --> 00:03:14,469 unemployed or they've been off sick due 75 00:03:11,378 --> 00:03:16,328 to accidents and they've had the the 76 00:03:14,469 --> 00:03:18,639 sick pay stopped they're in desperate 77 00:03:16,329 --> 00:03:20,889 need and then they go for the interviews 78 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:23,500 to see if they can get it employment 79 00:03:20,889 --> 00:03:25,930 supports and it so they can't get it and 80 00:03:23,500 --> 00:03:28,810 they're in the right State and I've 81 00:03:25,930 --> 00:03:32,409 pointed them towards some assistance 82 00:03:28,810 --> 00:03:34,900 places and as you say it's they've been 83 00:03:32,408 --> 00:03:37,539 taken to a tribunal and usually they've 84 00:03:34,900 --> 00:03:39,879 won the case but it's so humiliating and 85 00:03:37,539 --> 00:03:41,650 degrading to have to go through that and 86 00:03:39,878 --> 00:03:44,620 we don't want need that type of system 87 00:03:41,650 --> 00:03:46,810 that we need a better system yeah and I 88 00:03:44,620 --> 00:03:49,299 mean at the moment it's like the carers 89 00:03:46,810 --> 00:03:52,180 allowance it's still hovering around 60 90 00:03:49,299 --> 00:03:55,599 pounds a week for a full-time job I 91 00:03:52,180 --> 00:03:57,909 myself am a parent carer and we fear 92 00:03:55,598 --> 00:04:00,878 every year that the rest I will be 93 00:03:57,908 --> 00:04:02,769 caught and you're no fault of your the 94 00:04:00,878 --> 00:04:05,828 local council but because of of the 95 00:04:02,769 --> 00:04:07,810 course and that will just be a disaster 96 00:04:05,829 --> 00:04:11,349 will be a tragedy and it will lead to a 97 00:04:07,810 --> 00:04:15,750 lot of families going into the social 98 00:04:11,348 --> 00:04:17,829 services system it really aids on the 99 00:04:15,750 --> 00:04:20,319 carers and carers allowance it's 100 00:04:17,829 --> 00:04:21,968 insufficient it was a big campaign to 101 00:04:20,319 --> 00:04:24,370 get any kind of carers of outs in the 102 00:04:21,968 --> 00:04:27,129 first place and having achieved that it 103 00:04:24,370 --> 00:04:27,370 should be upgraded and up rated with 104 00:04:27,129 --> 00:04:30,459 them 105 00:04:27,370 --> 00:04:32,980 it's insufficient the need for respite 106 00:04:30,459 --> 00:04:36,969 care and respite care facilities is very 107 00:04:32,980 --> 00:04:39,490 very important so that both get a break 108 00:04:36,970 --> 00:04:42,970 the the person who's cared for as well 109 00:04:39,490 --> 00:04:45,400 as the carer is very important if we 110 00:04:42,970 --> 00:04:49,540 didn't have carers what would actually 111 00:04:45,399 --> 00:04:51,909 be the case either those with severe 112 00:04:49,540 --> 00:04:54,910 multiple disabilities would be taken in 113 00:04:51,910 --> 00:04:57,400 to some form of care at very great cost 114 00:04:54,910 --> 00:04:59,889 with very inadequate care often provide 115 00:04:57,399 --> 00:05:02,459 as we have in the past before the 116 00:04:59,889 --> 00:05:05,439 concept of Independent Living came in 117 00:05:02,459 --> 00:05:08,560 and so there are kind of underrated 118 00:05:05,439 --> 00:05:10,478 under recognized and undervalued massive 119 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:13,418 resource for all of us and should be 120 00:05:10,478 --> 00:05:16,329 respected for what they do I understand 121 00:05:13,418 --> 00:05:18,399 that we do need to look at trying to 122 00:05:16,329 --> 00:05:20,349 raise standards of living for people 123 00:05:18,399 --> 00:05:21,788 that are carers people with disabilities 124 00:05:20,350 --> 00:05:23,830 and everything else what I also want to 125 00:05:21,788 --> 00:05:25,990 link into that is the prevention side of 126 00:05:23,829 --> 00:05:28,509 that because what I'm I'm a trade union 127 00:05:25,990 --> 00:05:30,280 rep and a lot of the cases I deal with 128 00:05:28,509 --> 00:05:32,620 are people dealing with stress at work 129 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:34,839 and it is actually stress work-related 130 00:05:32,620 --> 00:05:36,639 stress and trying to get employers to 131 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:39,339 recognize that and actually do something 132 00:05:36,639 --> 00:05:42,430 about it even the HSE don't always 133 00:05:39,339 --> 00:05:43,989 recognize it if we do act we encourage 134 00:05:42,430 --> 00:05:45,759 people to accident and instant 135 00:05:43,990 --> 00:05:47,259 performance because actually it is that 136 00:05:45,759 --> 00:05:49,180 it's something that the employer needs 137 00:05:47,259 --> 00:05:50,978 to take responsibility for I have a 138 00:05:49,180 --> 00:05:54,098 member at the moment he's he was 139 00:05:50,978 --> 00:05:57,969 witnessed to her suicide where the train 140 00:05:54,098 --> 00:05:59,829 hit somewhere he suffered with PTSD the 141 00:05:57,970 --> 00:06:01,270 company is just allowed him to go on and 142 00:05:59,829 --> 00:06:03,310 on and on we've been trying to gain Hill 143 00:06:01,269 --> 00:06:05,379 health retirement and they go into 144 00:06:03,310 --> 00:06:07,030 panels and panels and panels and you 145 00:06:05,379 --> 00:06:10,389 know this place is if the company don't 146 00:06:07,029 --> 00:06:12,098 want to understand his need I mean 147 00:06:10,389 --> 00:06:15,009 recently I was working with a young 148 00:06:12,098 --> 00:06:18,038 woman who have been a sanction she's 19 149 00:06:15,009 --> 00:06:20,848 years old and she's homeless and she 150 00:06:18,038 --> 00:06:23,769 phoned me up in in a flood of tears and 151 00:06:20,848 --> 00:06:25,269 we was able to help her and and I'm 152 00:06:23,769 --> 00:06:26,560 hoping I'm not seeing it for a couple 153 00:06:25,269 --> 00:06:28,209 weeks but she had an integral evolve and 154 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:31,750 she's got a job and you sorted out with 155 00:06:28,209 --> 00:06:34,500 the house things so there's that all 156 00:06:31,750 --> 00:06:36,639 raft of stuff for young people it's them 157 00:06:34,500 --> 00:06:38,620 you know they can be affected by all 158 00:06:36,639 --> 00:06:39,419 sorts of things you've totally talked 159 00:06:38,620 --> 00:06:41,759 about some of them 160 00:06:39,420 --> 00:06:44,430 it might be illness in the family a 161 00:06:41,759 --> 00:06:45,839 family breaks up and in fact they find 162 00:06:44,430 --> 00:06:48,090 themselves in a situation that they 163 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:51,750 probably never never dreamed up I myself 164 00:06:48,089 --> 00:06:55,379 am 62 year old well last year I was 165 00:06:51,750 --> 00:06:58,350 sanctioned for 13 weeks because I didn't 166 00:06:55,379 --> 00:07:01,680 accept a job a place I never had any 167 00:06:58,350 --> 00:07:04,710 interview at the DWP are making these 168 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:07,709 things up and functioning people 13 169 00:07:04,709 --> 00:07:11,579 weeks they expected me to go out and at 170 00:07:07,709 --> 00:07:14,009 the time again any advice from anyone so 171 00:07:11,579 --> 00:07:16,289 I took it upon myself I went to the 172 00:07:14,009 --> 00:07:17,269 place where they said that I'd have the 173 00:07:16,290 --> 00:07:21,360 job interview 174 00:07:17,269 --> 00:07:22,889 they've got no record of me I then got a 175 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:26,520 letter from them to take it back there 176 00:07:22,889 --> 00:07:28,189 to the Job Center who eventually back 177 00:07:26,519 --> 00:07:30,930 down and decided that I could be paid 178 00:07:28,189 --> 00:07:34,350 but then I also got told by this lady at 179 00:07:30,930 --> 00:07:39,019 the Job Center every adviser has got to 180 00:07:34,350 --> 00:07:39,020 a sanction at least five people per week 181 00:07:39,829 --> 00:07:45,599 can I bring you in on that yeah I did 182 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,310 want to touch on that because people 183 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,180 don't I don't a lot of people don't 184 00:07:47,310 --> 00:07:49,530 actually know when we talk about 185 00:07:48,180 --> 00:07:54,780 sanctions that people being sanctioned 186 00:07:49,529 --> 00:07:56,129 for weeks and months and years roll in 187 00:07:54,779 --> 00:08:00,149 and you get a lecture about a month 188 00:07:56,129 --> 00:08:01,860 later with absolutely nothing but you 189 00:08:00,149 --> 00:08:02,310 know people starve to death than the 190 00:08:01,860 --> 00:08:05,100 food 191 00:08:02,310 --> 00:08:07,410 last night I was trying to save a guy's 192 00:08:05,100 --> 00:08:09,270 life because it was it was suicidal 193 00:08:07,410 --> 00:08:09,810 today I managed to get in the help that 194 00:08:09,269 --> 00:08:12,689 he needs 195 00:08:09,810 --> 00:08:13,920 now it is about class the poor poor of 196 00:08:12,689 --> 00:08:15,870 this country are not giving any 197 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:18,449 opportunities in this country at all 198 00:08:15,870 --> 00:08:20,519 anymore we used to have I remember being 199 00:08:18,449 --> 00:08:22,829 able to go to college do you about going 200 00:08:20,519 --> 00:08:24,779 to university slip in a job step out of 201 00:08:22,829 --> 00:08:27,810 a job that isn't a plan anymore 202 00:08:24,779 --> 00:08:29,459 being poor makes you depressed you makes 203 00:08:27,810 --> 00:08:31,230 you malnourished malnutrition doesn't 204 00:08:29,459 --> 00:08:33,659 mean to starving it means you're eating 205 00:08:31,230 --> 00:08:35,159 the wrong type of food and what got into 206 00:08:33,659 --> 00:08:37,228 the press the other day is that the fact 207 00:08:35,159 --> 00:08:39,809 the figures the malnutrition figures ads 208 00:08:37,229 --> 00:08:42,530 are one of the highest on the the points 209 00:08:39,809 --> 00:08:45,209 that were made yourself about 210 00:08:42,529 --> 00:08:46,799 sanctioning and attitudes well I'm 211 00:08:45,210 --> 00:08:49,500 absolutely fed up with the way in which 212 00:08:46,799 --> 00:08:52,039 a lot of our papers have fallen into the 213 00:08:49,500 --> 00:08:55,350 thing about 214 00:08:52,039 --> 00:08:58,769 stay in bed Britain's scrounger Britain 215 00:08:55,350 --> 00:09:02,850 they are all scroungers dossers etc etc 216 00:08:58,769 --> 00:09:06,419 etc well sorry people don't actually 217 00:09:02,850 --> 00:09:08,519 choose to be poor they don't choose to 218 00:09:06,419 --> 00:09:11,009 live in that sort of way for the very 219 00:09:08,519 --> 00:09:13,590 large majority they want some kind of 220 00:09:11,009 --> 00:09:18,269 respect and decency within their lives 221 00:09:13,590 --> 00:09:20,280 and before last summer our party it 222 00:09:18,269 --> 00:09:23,159 unfortunately often indulged in this 223 00:09:20,279 --> 00:09:26,069 whole activity and used some pretty bad 224 00:09:23,159 --> 00:09:28,350 language and we were invited to abstain 225 00:09:26,070 --> 00:09:30,480 on the welfare reform bill just over a 226 00:09:28,350 --> 00:09:31,889 year ago on the basis that the Tories 227 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,539 had won the general election and 228 00:09:31,889 --> 00:09:35,490 therefore we had to accept the majority 229 00:09:33,539 --> 00:09:37,559 of the population we're actually against 230 00:09:35,490 --> 00:09:40,169 people receiving welfare well the two 231 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:42,529 things don't arithmetic me add up never 232 00:09:40,169 --> 00:09:44,939 never mind the morals behind it and so 233 00:09:42,529 --> 00:09:47,309 we have as you've probably noticed since 234 00:09:44,940 --> 00:09:48,570 then completely changed our approach and 235 00:09:47,309 --> 00:09:50,819 I'm absolutely determined we're going to 236 00:09:48,570 --> 00:09:53,220 carry on with a changed approach about 237 00:09:50,820 --> 00:09:55,680 social security in Britain 238 00:09:53,220 --> 00:09:58,830 my name is save Parliament local 239 00:09:55,679 --> 00:10:02,129 businessmen my question is about 240 00:09:58,830 --> 00:10:05,520 European Union so we have made decision 241 00:10:02,129 --> 00:10:08,610 to go out of European Union just shortly 242 00:10:05,519 --> 00:10:12,929 and British Pound is getting weaker 243 00:10:08,610 --> 00:10:14,610 every day is melted by 25% so we do not 244 00:10:12,929 --> 00:10:16,109 know where we send them if we go in out 245 00:10:14,610 --> 00:10:20,850 of the European Union if we were 246 00:10:16,110 --> 00:10:23,340 continuing so it is unknown moment like 247 00:10:20,850 --> 00:10:26,600 to ask about if you were a prime 248 00:10:23,340 --> 00:10:29,220 minister which we open what would you do 249 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:31,110 going to stay like that or going out 250 00:10:29,220 --> 00:10:32,790 what will be the benefit on the 251 00:10:31,110 --> 00:10:36,570 businesses because at the moment we have 252 00:10:32,789 --> 00:10:38,909 got the problem with that it wasn't a 253 00:10:36,570 --> 00:10:41,100 result I wanted I wanted us to remain 254 00:10:38,909 --> 00:10:42,539 and reform the European Union I didn't 255 00:10:41,100 --> 00:10:44,220 think it was perfect but I wanted it 256 00:10:42,539 --> 00:10:46,349 reformed particularly the sort of 257 00:10:44,220 --> 00:10:47,639 free-market instincts that there were so 258 00:10:46,350 --> 00:10:49,320 many in the European Union 259 00:10:47,639 --> 00:10:52,019 however we will give the result we've 260 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:54,660 got we have to urgently agree on a 261 00:10:52,019 --> 00:10:56,579 number of things one we retain consumer 262 00:10:54,659 --> 00:10:58,649 protection environmental protection 263 00:10:56,580 --> 00:11:00,960 workers protection rights that we've 264 00:10:58,649 --> 00:11:03,870 gained through European regulation we 265 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,509 have to maintain the market access to 266 00:11:03,870 --> 00:11:06,698 Europe 267 00:11:04,509 --> 00:11:08,889 for British manufactured goods and 268 00:11:06,698 --> 00:11:11,139 British financial services into the 269 00:11:08,889 --> 00:11:14,019 European Union and we have to have a 270 00:11:11,139 --> 00:11:16,089 sensible good trading relationship with 271 00:11:14,019 --> 00:11:17,289 the European Union because we're going 272 00:11:16,089 --> 00:11:20,050 to be the neighbours of it whatever 273 00:11:17,289 --> 00:11:22,958 relationship is so I've set up a meeting 274 00:11:20,049 --> 00:11:24,490 with the Norwegian Labour Party to look 275 00:11:22,958 --> 00:11:26,229 at the Norwegian model where they're not 276 00:11:24,490 --> 00:11:28,149 members the European Union but they act 277 00:11:26,230 --> 00:11:30,009 very closely with the European Union 278 00:11:28,149 --> 00:11:31,528 we're still members of the Council of 279 00:11:30,009 --> 00:11:33,159 Europe we're still members of the 280 00:11:31,528 --> 00:11:35,049 Organization for Security and 281 00:11:33,159 --> 00:11:36,879 Cooperation in Europe there has to be a 282 00:11:35,049 --> 00:11:39,399 continuing relationship with the 283 00:11:36,879 --> 00:11:41,289 European Union trade treaties at the 284 00:11:39,399 --> 00:11:43,990 moment are all done through the European 285 00:11:41,289 --> 00:11:45,969 Union we could make our own trade 286 00:11:43,990 --> 00:11:47,350 treaties but I'm absolutely clear I'm 287 00:11:45,970 --> 00:11:48,879 not going to sign up to transatlantic 288 00:11:47,350 --> 00:11:54,490 trade and investment partnership and 289 00:11:48,879 --> 00:11:56,649 what goes with that but I do I do 290 00:11:54,490 --> 00:11:58,629 recognize we've either got to do trading 291 00:11:56,649 --> 00:12:02,110 via the European Union or set up our own 292 00:11:58,629 --> 00:12:05,470 trade treaties we have to recognize the 293 00:12:02,110 --> 00:12:07,480 result work with that result and protect 294 00:12:05,470 --> 00:12:09,459 the best we got from being in the 295 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:12,819 European Union and develop ourselves 296 00:12:09,458 --> 00:12:15,278 into an efficient investment strong 297 00:12:12,818 --> 00:12:16,750 manufacturing economy in Britain with a 298 00:12:15,278 --> 00:12:18,399 lowest level of investment in 299 00:12:16,750 --> 00:12:20,350 manufacturing infrastructure and 300 00:12:18,399 --> 00:12:22,839 everything else of any other country 301 00:12:20,350 --> 00:12:24,970 what some of the Tories want is us to 302 00:12:22,839 --> 00:12:26,889 become a low tax low wage 303 00:12:24,970 --> 00:12:29,620 bargain-basement economy on the shores 304 00:12:26,889 --> 00:12:32,528 of Europe I want us to be a place of 305 00:12:29,620 --> 00:12:34,629 investment of growth of sustainability 306 00:12:32,528 --> 00:12:36,669 and opportunity for all of our young 307 00:12:34,629 --> 00:12:38,948 people with a good relationship with our 308 00:12:36,669 --> 00:12:40,990 neighbors across the channel right so 309 00:12:38,948 --> 00:12:42,939 that was pretty clear it'll be a prison 310 00:12:40,990 --> 00:12:45,190 is very clear that the thing that I 311 00:12:42,940 --> 00:12:47,470 always think about example Council for 312 00:12:45,190 --> 00:12:49,959 latest I I always think that this estate 313 00:12:47,470 --> 00:12:52,060 was built for a city that was have 314 00:12:49,958 --> 00:12:53,979 centuries of manufacturing and industry 315 00:12:52,059 --> 00:12:56,229 and we've had that being art taken out 316 00:12:53,980 --> 00:12:59,259 of this city and the people to get from 317 00:12:56,230 --> 00:13:00,850 those to have full employment again is 318 00:12:59,259 --> 00:13:02,620 bang-on what Jeremy said we need 319 00:13:00,850 --> 00:13:04,329 investment in manufacturing we need to 320 00:13:02,620 --> 00:13:06,278 bring back industry that's the way to 321 00:13:04,328 --> 00:13:09,958 get more people into work because the 322 00:13:06,278 --> 00:13:09,958 industry down there what people want out 323 00:13:10,009 --> 00:13:14,879 that's the main thing you know that we 324 00:13:13,049 --> 00:13:17,219 should be looking at now he's not just 325 00:13:14,879 --> 00:13:19,950 industry and growth for growth's sake we 326 00:13:17,220 --> 00:13:22,080 should be talking about a green new deal 327 00:13:19,950 --> 00:13:24,930 we all have read the papers in the last 328 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:28,320 few days we will have noticed that July 329 00:13:24,929 --> 00:13:29,879 is the hottest month in earth and yet 330 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,770 nobody seems to be bothered about that 331 00:13:29,879 --> 00:13:34,529 we've talked it as the started of this 332 00:13:31,769 --> 00:13:37,799 talking about what what sort of UT do we 333 00:13:34,529 --> 00:13:39,659 want for our days and that you know wait 334 00:13:37,799 --> 00:13:41,879 everybody butyl if that's how it is the 335 00:13:39,659 --> 00:13:45,539 way things that we now the Tories of 336 00:13:41,879 --> 00:13:49,049 relegated climate change to their - I 337 00:13:45,539 --> 00:13:50,759 don't know the 500 priority of change 338 00:13:49,049 --> 00:13:53,279 manator think they're not bothered about 339 00:13:50,759 --> 00:13:55,409 the climate change act and so we've got 340 00:13:53,279 --> 00:13:57,839 to a position now that with labour party 341 00:13:55,409 --> 00:13:59,879 there'll be lots of jobs in it for lots 342 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,710 of people all the energy efficiency that 343 00:13:59,879 --> 00:14:03,360 needs to do for all these hours of the 344 00:14:01,710 --> 00:14:05,220 year the refuge Sheffield the rest of 345 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,889 the country plenty away from lots of 346 00:14:05,220 --> 00:14:09,480 fall and it's not soon to work for you 347 00:14:07,889 --> 00:14:12,029 know your adequate to universities 348 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:14,909 workforce to ordinary working-class folk 349 00:14:12,029 --> 00:14:16,529 and these plenty to be done can I give 350 00:14:14,909 --> 00:14:18,089 you an example of how we can move that 351 00:14:16,529 --> 00:14:20,939 forward and thanks for your point I was 352 00:14:18,090 --> 00:14:23,430 in a couple weeks ago in Swansea talking 353 00:14:20,940 --> 00:14:26,550 to a group of cancers there who've 354 00:14:23,429 --> 00:14:29,789 managed to get the funding together for 355 00:14:26,549 --> 00:14:33,059 Swansea to build by direct labour a new 356 00:14:29,789 --> 00:14:35,069 housing estate all houses to passive 357 00:14:33,059 --> 00:14:39,959 house standards so what are they 358 00:14:35,070 --> 00:14:43,410 achieving good housing affordable social 359 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:45,570 rent lifetime tenancy passive house 360 00:14:43,409 --> 00:14:47,969 standards their folders zero or 361 00:14:45,570 --> 00:14:51,440 negligible energy costs for the tenants 362 00:14:47,970 --> 00:14:53,190 moving in to those properties and 363 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,470 obviously protection of the environment 364 00:14:53,190 --> 00:14:58,380 as a whole we've got to change our 365 00:14:55,470 --> 00:15:00,330 attitude towards the environment and 366 00:14:58,379 --> 00:15:03,379 towards energy there is a great many 367 00:15:00,330 --> 00:15:05,780 jobs can be created by sustainable 368 00:15:03,379 --> 00:15:08,189 agriculture sustainable manufacturing 369 00:15:05,779 --> 00:15:10,769 which actually has some regard for the 370 00:15:08,190 --> 00:15:12,660 environment I think with the environment 371 00:15:10,769 --> 00:15:15,860 not against the environment I'm a 372 00:15:12,659 --> 00:15:15,860 mentality who works 373 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:21,139 [Applause] 374 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:23,060 what the gentleman said before about 375 00:15:21,139 --> 00:15:24,649 reinvesting in our manufacturing base 376 00:15:23,059 --> 00:15:27,349 that's what we need to do we don't want 377 00:15:24,649 --> 00:15:29,480 to be a low-wage Zilla wala contract 378 00:15:27,350 --> 00:15:31,540 bargain-basement offshore we need to 379 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:33,829 rebuild what made cities like Sheffield 380 00:15:31,539 --> 00:15:36,198 Middlesbrough and Newcastle and Leeds 381 00:15:33,828 --> 00:15:37,128 great rebuild our manufacturing allows 382 00:15:36,198 --> 00:15:39,169 young monster as well green 383 00:15:37,129 --> 00:15:40,639 manufacturing as well now I'm a youth 384 00:15:39,169 --> 00:15:43,458 worker I've been a youth worker in 385 00:15:40,639 --> 00:15:45,799 Sheffield for nearly 50 years 386 00:15:43,458 --> 00:15:47,659 one of the things that really upsets me 387 00:15:45,799 --> 00:15:49,519 now is that when you look at the 388 00:15:47,659 --> 00:15:52,698 services for young people it's all about 389 00:15:49,519 --> 00:15:54,919 their future that's fine but if you 390 00:15:52,698 --> 00:15:57,049 screw up their present they don't have a 391 00:15:54,919 --> 00:15:59,360 future and one of the things that Youth 392 00:15:57,049 --> 00:16:01,818 Work does is to work with young people 393 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:03,649 now and it's so youth it's a 394 00:16:01,818 --> 00:16:05,870 relationship with with our dolts that's 395 00:16:03,649 --> 00:16:07,909 without sanction at the moment it's been 396 00:16:05,870 --> 00:16:10,850 stripped out of the system and then we 397 00:16:07,909 --> 00:16:13,129 wonder why we have things like young 398 00:16:10,850 --> 00:16:15,290 people in crisis young people who were 399 00:16:13,129 --> 00:16:17,528 homeless I mean I want to just build on 400 00:16:15,289 --> 00:16:19,909 that ask you about education and 401 00:16:17,528 --> 00:16:21,948 aspiration because I think it's 402 00:16:19,909 --> 00:16:24,049 systematically being crushed and sadly 403 00:16:21,948 --> 00:16:27,078 it was started by our party with the 404 00:16:24,049 --> 00:16:28,698 introduction of student fees my dad came 405 00:16:27,078 --> 00:16:30,979 to this country when he was about 12 you 406 00:16:28,698 --> 00:16:34,278 worked in the steel works I went to a 407 00:16:30,980 --> 00:16:35,899 local comprehensive as did my sisters we 408 00:16:34,278 --> 00:16:37,639 were very lucky to benefit from free 409 00:16:35,899 --> 00:16:41,149 education my sister got a first class 410 00:16:37,639 --> 00:16:43,129 honours in chemistry and a PhD and I 411 00:16:41,149 --> 00:16:44,778 qualified as a barrister I still live in 412 00:16:43,129 --> 00:16:46,569 the area that I grew up which is Tinsley 413 00:16:44,778 --> 00:16:51,110 which is apart of the East End of 414 00:16:46,568 --> 00:16:52,578 Sheffield and we would not be in the 415 00:16:51,110 --> 00:16:54,589 positions that we are were it not for 416 00:16:52,578 --> 00:16:56,120 the opportunities that were given to us 417 00:16:54,589 --> 00:16:59,959 and also the fact that we could dream 418 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:02,600 and those dreams seemed attainable now 419 00:16:59,958 --> 00:17:03,799 they are systematically being crushed 420 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,870 what was your debt when you left 421 00:17:03,799 --> 00:17:08,298 University I was very very lucky because 422 00:17:05,869 --> 00:17:10,818 there was times I survived on 10 pounds 423 00:17:08,298 --> 00:17:13,849 a week I my maintenance grant was just 424 00:17:10,818 --> 00:17:15,318 enough to cover my rent I actually came 425 00:17:13,849 --> 00:17:17,359 out of a university with no debt but 426 00:17:15,318 --> 00:17:19,298 that was because I had a father who came 427 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:21,859 to this country with virtually nothing 428 00:17:19,298 --> 00:17:25,338 making sure that I did things properly 429 00:17:21,859 --> 00:17:27,419 but now you know as a professional I 430 00:17:25,338 --> 00:17:31,379 look at my two children 431 00:17:27,420 --> 00:17:32,930 and and I can't imagine that I can give 432 00:17:31,380 --> 00:17:35,280 them the help that my father gave me 433 00:17:32,930 --> 00:17:37,350 they're going to come out with 40,000 434 00:17:35,279 --> 00:17:39,180 pounds if they're lucky of death which 435 00:17:37,349 --> 00:17:41,609 is enough we used to be enough to buy a 436 00:17:39,180 --> 00:17:43,170 house here if I had not had the benefit 437 00:17:41,609 --> 00:17:44,669 of free education if I'd not have the 438 00:17:43,170 --> 00:17:46,830 support if my dreams hadn't been 439 00:17:44,670 --> 00:17:49,289 encouraged I wouldn't be doing the job I 440 00:17:46,829 --> 00:17:51,240 do now and there's so many people I meet 441 00:17:49,289 --> 00:17:53,369 in areas like this areas like Tinsley 442 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:55,680 I'm a see so much talent in them they 443 00:17:53,369 --> 00:17:57,569 have so much ability but you just think 444 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,930 I can't go to University and what's 445 00:17:57,569 --> 00:18:03,210 happening now is that forget about 446 00:17:59,930 --> 00:18:05,370 attacks on students dreams are being 447 00:18:03,210 --> 00:18:08,250 crushed people say you're not a leader 448 00:18:05,369 --> 00:18:10,859 you've inspired me it made me join make 449 00:18:08,250 --> 00:18:12,420 my wife join my children support you my 450 00:18:10,859 --> 00:18:16,500 daughter thinks you're obi-wan Kenobi by 451 00:18:12,420 --> 00:18:18,150 the way although I do joke with it if 452 00:18:16,500 --> 00:18:19,859 you watch any films you know when it's 453 00:18:18,150 --> 00:18:23,160 really bad you need a mature man with a 454 00:18:19,859 --> 00:18:25,469 white beard coming home but you know you 455 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:27,810 you have inspired as you've moved us 456 00:18:25,470 --> 00:18:29,940 because if people think a leader is 457 00:18:27,809 --> 00:18:31,859 something that Blair was or Cameron was 458 00:18:29,940 --> 00:18:33,900 that's synthetic it's Hollow 459 00:18:31,859 --> 00:18:35,549 a leader is somebody that can move 460 00:18:33,900 --> 00:18:37,980 people can motivate people and that's 461 00:18:35,549 --> 00:18:40,019 what you've done and then the thing that 462 00:18:37,980 --> 00:18:41,789 I like about you that I the oh and I 463 00:18:40,019 --> 00:18:43,230 don't think even comes close to bring it 464 00:18:41,789 --> 00:18:45,509 to the table I'm a firm believer you 465 00:18:43,230 --> 00:18:47,849 have your principles and our job is to 466 00:18:45,509 --> 00:18:50,660 convince people to move towards us if 467 00:18:47,849 --> 00:18:50,659 their dog 468 00:18:54,429 --> 00:18:58,399 we don't change our principle we work 469 00:18:56,839 --> 00:19:00,558 hard at what we shouldn't become which 470 00:18:58,398 --> 00:19:02,869 is what I think labor became was a vet 471 00:19:00,558 --> 00:19:05,240 weathervane forever spinning trying to 472 00:19:02,869 --> 00:19:07,128 find the prevailing wind to get people 473 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,690 to vote for us no I think the reason why 474 00:19:07,128 --> 00:19:10,668 hundreds of thousands of people have 475 00:19:08,690 --> 00:19:13,009 come because in you they see hope they 476 00:19:10,669 --> 00:19:16,399 see what really Labour was what I grew 477 00:19:13,009 --> 00:19:18,950 up seeing what Labour was myself when I 478 00:19:16,398 --> 00:19:21,709 was in sixth form I was so passionate to 479 00:19:18,950 --> 00:19:24,740 go to uni I finished my first day of une 480 00:19:21,710 --> 00:19:26,269 now and I'm thinking is there something 481 00:19:24,740 --> 00:19:27,950 else I could do because I don't think I 482 00:19:26,269 --> 00:19:30,319 could continue with university because 483 00:19:27,950 --> 00:19:31,580 literally not like when I finished 484 00:19:30,319 --> 00:19:33,589 University I don't think it's so hard 485 00:19:31,579 --> 00:19:36,349 for me to even think of getting a job 486 00:19:33,589 --> 00:19:37,849 because when I come out you know the 487 00:19:36,349 --> 00:19:41,959 stuff that I need to pay for it just 488 00:19:37,849 --> 00:19:44,298 crazy one of my siblings she got a first 489 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:47,538 class degree and then she got thirsty a 490 00:19:44,298 --> 00:19:49,490 first class degree and until now she 491 00:19:47,538 --> 00:19:51,859 still hasn't been able to get a job 492 00:19:49,490 --> 00:19:55,819 until now she's been struggling she 493 00:19:51,859 --> 00:19:57,709 works so hard day and night just so then 494 00:19:55,819 --> 00:19:59,388 she can get a job and she studied 495 00:19:57,710 --> 00:20:01,308 biomedical science and there's no 496 00:19:59,388 --> 00:20:02,839 opportunity for I'm student engineer and 497 00:20:01,308 --> 00:20:05,509 I think I don't even think I have 498 00:20:02,839 --> 00:20:08,628 opportunity because I was going on my 499 00:20:05,509 --> 00:20:10,788 sister my sister's in for a master's to 500 00:20:08,628 --> 00:20:12,618 study in pharmacy and she doesn't even 501 00:20:10,788 --> 00:20:14,388 think I would speak to her yesterday she 502 00:20:12,618 --> 00:20:16,609 doesn't even think she's gonna succeed 503 00:20:14,388 --> 00:20:19,459 because she's working two part-time jobs 504 00:20:16,609 --> 00:20:21,199 so then she can live so then she can 505 00:20:19,460 --> 00:20:24,259 live on our study we're literally 506 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:26,659 struggling everyone I speak to students 507 00:20:24,259 --> 00:20:29,929 then literally they're struggling no one 508 00:20:26,659 --> 00:20:31,519 know us I spoke to so many students 509 00:20:29,929 --> 00:20:34,038 because I'm part of my Students Union 510 00:20:31,519 --> 00:20:37,429 and I speak to so many students like a 511 00:20:34,038 --> 00:20:39,888 younger there are 16 17 or 18 and 512 00:20:37,429 --> 00:20:41,929 literally they have so much talent but 513 00:20:39,888 --> 00:20:44,628 literally they can't afford it their 514 00:20:41,929 --> 00:20:46,580 parents are struggling and literally we 515 00:20:44,628 --> 00:20:48,558 reach the gala parents like supporting 516 00:20:46,579 --> 00:20:50,569 the same go to universities so then you 517 00:20:48,558 --> 00:20:54,589 can you can be in a better situation 518 00:20:50,569 --> 00:20:57,470 than us distribute so much and us at 519 00:20:54,589 --> 00:20:59,839 like a few months ago in May I sat down 520 00:20:57,470 --> 00:21:01,519 with one of uni lecturers because I was 521 00:20:59,839 --> 00:21:03,618 running for position within the Union 522 00:21:01,519 --> 00:21:05,388 and I was doing research about the BMI 523 00:21:03,618 --> 00:21:06,149 attainment gap so many people are 524 00:21:05,388 --> 00:21:07,740 leaving universe 525 00:21:06,150 --> 00:21:09,690 because they literally stood within the 526 00:21:07,740 --> 00:21:11,579 first three months not the first 527 00:21:09,690 --> 00:21:13,740 literally I was having depression my 528 00:21:11,579 --> 00:21:16,289 first three months I was literally 529 00:21:13,740 --> 00:21:18,269 struggling so much University I don't 530 00:21:16,289 --> 00:21:19,980 know what's going on like if I was going 531 00:21:18,269 --> 00:21:21,779 to continue so many of my friends 532 00:21:19,980 --> 00:21:23,910 there's so much passion they were clever 533 00:21:21,779 --> 00:21:25,829 and they dropped out within the first 534 00:21:23,910 --> 00:21:28,680 three months if you shatter people's 535 00:21:25,829 --> 00:21:31,259 dreams if you break their backs before 536 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,549 they get a chance to qualify to achieve 537 00:21:31,259 --> 00:21:34,650 things like this young brother wants to 538 00:21:32,549 --> 00:21:37,740 and then you try to make out some kind 539 00:21:34,650 --> 00:21:39,360 of meritocracy isn't and also debt it 540 00:21:37,740 --> 00:21:41,609 what it does it makes you risk-averse 541 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,619 when all you've got is a tenner you 542 00:21:41,609 --> 00:21:44,939 become risk-averse or when you've got 40 543 00:21:43,619 --> 00:21:46,859 grands worth of debt you don't want to 544 00:21:44,940 --> 00:21:48,870 take chances and what you don't have 545 00:21:46,859 --> 00:21:50,279 time to do is be to be a critical 546 00:21:48,869 --> 00:21:52,019 thinker to hold government to account 547 00:21:50,279 --> 00:21:54,589 because all you're doing is running in 548 00:21:52,019 --> 00:21:57,589 the wheel trying to pay off your debts 549 00:21:54,589 --> 00:22:00,509 we need to bring up our children to 550 00:21:57,589 --> 00:22:02,819 understand each other to work with each 551 00:22:00,509 --> 00:22:06,200 other obviously to make the best of 552 00:22:02,819 --> 00:22:09,419 their own lives but also to understand 553 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:11,340 where what we have has come from and how 554 00:22:09,420 --> 00:22:13,289 it was achieved our kids are not brought 555 00:22:11,339 --> 00:22:15,480 up to understand that they brought up to 556 00:22:13,289 --> 00:22:16,950 believe that somehow or other one day 557 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,539 Parliament's would be a really good idea 558 00:22:16,950 --> 00:22:20,789 to have a National Health Service let's 559 00:22:18,539 --> 00:22:23,279 do it they didn't say the struggles that 560 00:22:20,789 --> 00:22:26,039 went on for decades for the principle 561 00:22:23,279 --> 00:22:28,759 behind it likewise the principle of 562 00:22:26,039 --> 00:22:31,710 comprehensive education as opposed to 563 00:22:28,759 --> 00:22:34,379 selective and more elitist education I 564 00:22:31,710 --> 00:22:35,970 don't require every young person to go 565 00:22:34,380 --> 00:22:38,370 to university any more than I require 566 00:22:35,970 --> 00:22:40,559 every young person to get a good-quality 567 00:22:38,369 --> 00:22:43,259 apprenticeship but I do require a 568 00:22:40,559 --> 00:22:45,869 society that gives every young person an 569 00:22:43,259 --> 00:22:47,789 opportunity to get apprenticeship or go 570 00:22:45,869 --> 00:22:49,649 to university so that the the 571 00:22:47,789 --> 00:22:51,269 opportunity is there and not be saddled 572 00:22:49,650 --> 00:22:53,130 with the debt at the end of it what 573 00:22:51,269 --> 00:22:55,259 we've done is turned education into a 574 00:22:53,130 --> 00:22:58,230 commodity for under fives and a 575 00:22:55,259 --> 00:23:00,569 commodity for over 18 we've had 30 years 576 00:22:58,230 --> 00:23:01,740 of being told that neoliberal economics 577 00:23:00,569 --> 00:23:04,200 is they got the only answer to 578 00:23:01,740 --> 00:23:06,319 everything no it doesn't it's a question 579 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:09,240 of expanding community involvement 580 00:23:06,319 --> 00:23:10,919 empowering communities great people 581 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,329 don't go off and achieve things on their 582 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,070 own 583 00:23:11,329 --> 00:23:16,019 ordinary people achieve things because 584 00:23:14,069 --> 00:23:19,559 all of us come together to make sure 585 00:23:16,019 --> 00:23:21,750 that we all benefit from it 586 00:23:19,559 --> 00:23:24,389 when you bring people together you 587 00:23:21,750 --> 00:23:27,269 achieve things when you divide people we 588 00:23:24,390 --> 00:23:29,940 all lose surely the great strength we've 589 00:23:27,269 --> 00:23:32,849 got in the labour party is that we have 590 00:23:29,940 --> 00:23:35,430 this massive membership now half a 591 00:23:32,849 --> 00:23:38,639 million people they can be that 592 00:23:35,430 --> 00:23:40,620 community campaigning pressure in our 593 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:43,259 community that can be a force for so 594 00:23:40,619 --> 00:23:45,449 much good I think it'll be a long time 595 00:23:43,259 --> 00:23:47,819 before the Daily Mail The Daily Express 596 00:23:45,450 --> 00:23:49,590 or the Evening Standard or The Telegraph 597 00:23:47,819 --> 00:23:52,169 or any of those papers even begin to 598 00:23:49,589 --> 00:23:54,269 understand what community politics in 599 00:23:52,170 --> 00:23:56,490 community force is about but they'll 600 00:23:54,269 --> 00:23:58,440 understand it when we show that strength 601 00:23:56,490 --> 00:24:00,870 of unity that can bring about the 602 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,880 changes in the mentality and attitudes 603 00:24:00,869 --> 00:24:05,429 in our society which can bring about 604 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:13,110 real justice for everybody it's very 605 00:24:05,430 --> 00:24:14,640 much fun that's what you stand for and 606 00:24:13,109 --> 00:24:17,159 that's why they trying to destroy you 607 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:19,020 and what you stand for they understand 608 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,310 it don't worry about it it's only Jeremy 609 00:24:19,019 --> 00:24:21,690 this talk about workers rights and 610 00:24:20,309 --> 00:24:23,759 actually meaning it if we need a more 611 00:24:21,690 --> 00:24:25,140 equal society we need better workers 612 00:24:23,759 --> 00:24:31,440 rights and get rid of this anti trade 613 00:24:25,140 --> 00:24:33,900 union law that's just been affecting its 614 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:36,000 cooperation not competition and the 615 00:24:33,900 --> 00:24:39,720 fundamental difference is in this 616 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:42,960 leadership campaign is same old status 617 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:47,150 quo versus proper change proper progress 618 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:47,150 if you want hope you've got one choice 619 00:24:57,759 --> 00:25:05,349 thank you thank you thank you very much 620 00:25:02,670 --> 00:25:07,480 we've done well today the rain has 621 00:25:05,349 --> 00:25:08,439 stopped the Sun has come out what's 622 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:12,250 better than one 623 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:14,710 and it looks to me even more people here 624 00:25:12,250 --> 00:25:16,930 tonight than the were in the leadership 625 00:25:14,710 --> 00:25:19,509 campaign rally we held here a year ago 626 00:25:16,930 --> 00:25:21,850 thank you all of you very much for 627 00:25:19,509 --> 00:25:23,559 coming along here tonight we need to 628 00:25:21,849 --> 00:25:25,209 stand up together or do people need to 629 00:25:23,559 --> 00:25:28,000 stand together and try and work together 630 00:25:25,210 --> 00:25:29,470 to make change in our society the rich 631 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,210 are standing together the rich managed 632 00:25:29,470 --> 00:25:32,920 to go out and vote for the Tories and 633 00:25:31,210 --> 00:25:34,240 make sure they protect their interests 634 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:37,090 and we need to start signing up for our 635 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:39,670 interests our biggest problem was that 636 00:25:37,089 --> 00:25:42,039 there wasn't a clear enough alternative 637 00:25:39,670 --> 00:25:44,710 being put by us to the people of this 638 00:25:42,039 --> 00:25:49,000 country we were also accepting the 639 00:25:44,710 --> 00:25:52,870 argument that the banking crisis of 2008 640 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:54,970 9 somehow other had to be paid for by 641 00:25:52,869 --> 00:25:57,279 cutting the services that are necessary 642 00:25:54,970 --> 00:25:59,829 for the majority of people in this 643 00:25:57,279 --> 00:26:02,529 country but accepting that the very 644 00:25:59,829 --> 00:26:04,899 buzzy and Nora tea would continue to be 645 00:26:02,529 --> 00:26:07,240 very wealthy and indeed become even 646 00:26:04,900 --> 00:26:12,130 wealthier as a result of the tax system 647 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:14,440 that we've got less than two weeks and 648 00:26:12,130 --> 00:26:17,890 I've joined Labour Party because of 649 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:21,070 Jeremy Corbyn reason being I'm 19 I'm a 650 00:26:17,890 --> 00:26:22,840 student I'm a Muslim and being me and I 651 00:26:21,069 --> 00:26:28,059 believe that Jeremy Corbyn and his 652 00:26:22,839 --> 00:26:30,730 campaign will tackle this issue it is 653 00:26:28,059 --> 00:26:34,179 the function of government to reach out 654 00:26:30,730 --> 00:26:36,430 to everybody in our society it is the 655 00:26:34,180 --> 00:26:39,220 function of government to set up a 656 00:26:36,430 --> 00:26:40,960 national investment bank 500 billion 657 00:26:39,220 --> 00:26:42,930 parents being made available for 658 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:46,720 investment all over the country in 659 00:26:42,930 --> 00:26:49,810 crucial infrastructure but also housing 660 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:52,150 and also being prepared to invest in 661 00:26:49,809 --> 00:26:54,579 manufacturing industry so those 662 00:26:52,150 --> 00:26:56,850 high-tech developments those high-tech 663 00:26:54,579 --> 00:26:59,710 discoveries those good-quality 664 00:26:56,849 --> 00:27:02,379 sustainable jobs are supported by a 665 00:26:59,710 --> 00:27:03,590 public investment which will improve the 666 00:27:02,380 --> 00:27:05,270 living standards 667 00:27:03,589 --> 00:27:07,819 and indeed the tax income of government 668 00:27:05,269 --> 00:27:10,548 of everybody in the future rather than 669 00:27:07,819 --> 00:27:13,970 the few it's about public investment on 670 00:27:10,548 --> 00:27:16,759 a public realm majority in this country 671 00:27:13,970 --> 00:27:18,350 they are not and we need the poor to get 672 00:27:16,759 --> 00:27:20,450 a fair deal these it and this is why I 673 00:27:18,349 --> 00:27:22,308 need Liberian power again I want the 674 00:27:20,450 --> 00:27:23,990 Labour Party to be there for those 675 00:27:22,308 --> 00:27:26,389 people who didn't vote last time and to 676 00:27:23,990 --> 00:27:28,640 educate those to come over to this style 677 00:27:26,390 --> 00:27:31,130 of politics what Jamie's campaign has 678 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:33,799 done is open the door to a new tide of a 679 00:27:31,130 --> 00:27:35,870 vibrant democracy it's led by young 680 00:27:33,798 --> 00:27:38,509 people that can give them a voice and 681 00:27:35,869 --> 00:27:40,759 can give them a giver as a hope for real 682 00:27:38,509 --> 00:27:42,379 political engagement in the future as I 683 00:27:40,759 --> 00:27:44,269 joined the Labour Party become for you 684 00:27:42,380 --> 00:27:46,278 and I'll be campaigning for you thank 685 00:27:44,269 --> 00:27:49,099 you very much all righty thank you hi 686 00:27:46,278 --> 00:27:52,519 how you know really good to see ya of 687 00:27:49,099 --> 00:27:54,139 course coach can I see them up yet and 688 00:27:52,519 --> 00:27:56,028 all of that you've got my support all of 689 00:27:54,140 --> 00:27:59,360 us and thanks for what you said I really 690 00:27:56,028 --> 00:28:01,278 don't know you deserve it mm-hmm thank 691 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:05,869 you met all of our you sir okay take 692 00:28:01,278 --> 00:28:12,500 care you'll find out it sure thank you 693 00:28:05,869 --> 00:28:15,979 thanks for the delivery commonly called 694 00:28:12,500 --> 00:28:17,569 the liver room last week before we know 695 00:28:15,980 --> 00:28:21,140 what he kept a like seven pound per hour 696 00:28:17,569 --> 00:28:22,609 plus one pound by delivery but since 697 00:28:21,140 --> 00:28:25,460 last week they change the pay structure 698 00:28:22,609 --> 00:28:27,528 they are not going to pay hourly rate 699 00:28:25,460 --> 00:28:31,100 they're going to change it for 3 pounds 700 00:28:27,528 --> 00:28:32,599 zombified by delivery so the drivers who 701 00:28:31,099 --> 00:28:33,769 ever worked for the liberal what 702 00:28:32,599 --> 00:28:35,480 happened is they end up going to get 703 00:28:33,769 --> 00:28:37,278 hourly pay like I said the wedding two 704 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,829 hours outside for the delivery and they 705 00:28:37,278 --> 00:28:42,019 got only one delivery in two hours they 706 00:28:39,829 --> 00:28:43,730 are getting paid only 3075 for two hours 707 00:28:42,019 --> 00:28:48,619 I suppose we would fall into the 708 00:28:43,730 --> 00:28:52,308 category of the working poor and we've 709 00:28:48,619 --> 00:28:54,229 we've been on 13 strikes in 2014 to try 710 00:28:52,308 --> 00:28:56,990 and achieve the de London living wage 711 00:28:54,230 --> 00:29:00,919 it's connected with the delivered what 712 00:28:56,990 --> 00:29:03,349 the delivery routes a worker said and I 713 00:29:00,919 --> 00:29:07,640 work at a Women's Centre and we work 714 00:29:03,349 --> 00:29:09,908 with women of color immigrant women who 715 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,879 were over-represented in no wage work 716 00:29:09,909 --> 00:29:15,299 caring 717 00:29:11,878 --> 00:29:19,108 health care zero many and zero hour 718 00:29:15,298 --> 00:29:21,089 contracts and we see directly the effect 719 00:29:19,108 --> 00:29:22,858 that low wages have on women and that 720 00:29:21,089 --> 00:29:25,019 combines with the cuts in benefit 721 00:29:22,858 --> 00:29:27,210 because first first of all they cut 722 00:29:25,019 --> 00:29:29,190 asylum-seekers money down to almost 723 00:29:27,210 --> 00:29:31,288 nothing and that's been extended to 724 00:29:29,190 --> 00:29:33,570 millions of others and benefits are like 725 00:29:31,288 --> 00:29:35,700 our safety net work and we would very 726 00:29:33,569 --> 00:29:37,858 much support and and call for others to 727 00:29:35,700 --> 00:29:40,109 support delivery you know we need all of 728 00:29:37,858 --> 00:29:42,449 us to go up together not just women in 729 00:29:40,108 --> 00:29:45,288 Parliament but also grassroots women to 730 00:29:42,450 --> 00:29:45,288 go up as well 731 00:29:45,358 --> 00:29:52,259 I am a nurse and our pay has been 732 00:29:48,628 --> 00:29:54,148 attacked since 2010 we've lost 15% of 733 00:29:52,259 --> 00:29:56,659 our pay now we've got another three 734 00:29:54,148 --> 00:29:59,038 years of papers strength coming up and 735 00:29:56,659 --> 00:30:01,019 nurses are leaving the health care 736 00:29:59,038 --> 00:30:03,058 service in their droves we have nurses 737 00:30:01,019 --> 00:30:04,558 accessing food banks the amount of 738 00:30:03,058 --> 00:30:07,319 colleagues that I have telling me that 739 00:30:04,558 --> 00:30:09,058 accessing food banks is disgusting we 740 00:30:07,319 --> 00:30:10,499 have nurses that there was a study in 741 00:30:09,058 --> 00:30:12,118 the winter that can't afford to heat the 742 00:30:10,499 --> 00:30:13,829 home they can't afford to put food on 743 00:30:12,118 --> 00:30:16,048 the table for their children they're 744 00:30:13,829 --> 00:30:17,699 working like 80 hour weeks just to be 745 00:30:16,048 --> 00:30:21,598 able to have be able to afford to pay 746 00:30:17,700 --> 00:30:22,499 their rent in London and nursing is in 747 00:30:21,598 --> 00:30:24,479 such a bad state 748 00:30:22,499 --> 00:30:25,558 and they also downtrodden for years and 749 00:30:24,479 --> 00:30:27,048 years and years it really really 750 00:30:25,558 --> 00:30:28,769 concerns me about what's going to happen 751 00:30:27,048 --> 00:30:31,668 because I don't know if there will be 752 00:30:28,769 --> 00:30:33,720 any fight back and as it stands nursing 753 00:30:31,669 --> 00:30:36,470 really hangs in the balance 754 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:41,639 our whole profession is in tatters so 755 00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:44,429 it's not not so good I'm a doctor and we 756 00:30:41,638 --> 00:30:48,199 were totally numb bastard in a lot of 757 00:30:44,429 --> 00:30:51,960 the press without any of our concerns 758 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:55,229 being relayed to the public at all they 759 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:57,840 they lied quite frankly about what the 760 00:30:55,229 --> 00:31:00,298 real issues were and painted us as I'm 761 00:30:57,839 --> 00:31:02,339 sure they will with you as being you 762 00:31:00,298 --> 00:31:05,098 know greedy and selfish and demanding 763 00:31:02,339 --> 00:31:07,288 things beyond your value when it's just 764 00:31:05,098 --> 00:31:11,089 not the case and it's just very a very 765 00:31:07,288 --> 00:31:13,919 concerning change in the culture whereby 766 00:31:11,089 --> 00:31:15,279 the voice of the workers is being 767 00:31:13,919 --> 00:31:18,720 totally 768 00:31:15,279 --> 00:31:20,980 and it's only really through union 769 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:23,048 action that we have seen some of the 770 00:31:20,980 --> 00:31:25,240 most progressive changes in working 771 00:31:23,048 --> 00:31:27,158 rights in history gender equality racial 772 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:30,009 equality in the workplace and I just 773 00:31:27,159 --> 00:31:32,200 think it's a very very alarming state of 774 00:31:30,009 --> 00:31:34,450 affairs thank you something to mention 775 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:38,110 that for me for me personally so within 776 00:31:34,450 --> 00:31:39,519 the BMA and one of the most valuable 777 00:31:38,109 --> 00:31:41,288 lessons that we learn and one the most 778 00:31:39,519 --> 00:31:43,869 uplifting things was the opportunity to 779 00:31:41,288 --> 00:31:47,019 build links with other unions so it was 780 00:31:43,869 --> 00:31:49,209 about it was about us you know working 781 00:31:47,019 --> 00:31:51,579 with the hospital cleaners who were also 782 00:31:49,210 --> 00:31:53,490 on strike with the UT with the teachers 783 00:31:51,579 --> 00:31:58,899 and unity who are also striking with the 784 00:31:53,490 --> 00:32:00,819 the NHS student bursaries campaigns it 785 00:31:58,900 --> 00:32:02,470 was really about building those sorts of 786 00:32:00,819 --> 00:32:05,079 links across the board that that's 787 00:32:02,470 --> 00:32:07,419 really what then meant that we were able 788 00:32:05,079 --> 00:32:09,668 to to bring the government back to the 789 00:32:07,419 --> 00:32:11,110 negotiating table but yeah I was an 790 00:32:09,669 --> 00:32:13,419 awful lot to say about that whole thank 791 00:32:11,109 --> 00:32:17,589 you a former local government employee 792 00:32:13,419 --> 00:32:19,120 and whether for 25 years but previous to 793 00:32:17,589 --> 00:32:21,730 that I worked in private industry so I 794 00:32:19,119 --> 00:32:23,288 kind of knew the difference and 25 years 795 00:32:21,730 --> 00:32:25,599 ago it was wonderful to work in local 796 00:32:23,288 --> 00:32:28,210 government you had good trade unions 797 00:32:25,599 --> 00:32:30,339 good equal opportunities local people 798 00:32:28,210 --> 00:32:34,210 employed especially women black women 799 00:32:30,339 --> 00:32:36,730 were working-class and I've seen it seen 800 00:32:34,210 --> 00:32:40,058 it disintegrate and where I've left it 801 00:32:36,730 --> 00:32:43,298 now it's micro managed the trade unions 802 00:32:40,058 --> 00:32:45,250 have been decimated it's really hard 803 00:32:43,298 --> 00:32:47,859 struggle and it's just so sad to see it 804 00:32:45,250 --> 00:32:50,380 all the equal opportunities I see a just 805 00:32:47,859 --> 00:32:52,629 getting weaker weaker well it simply 806 00:32:50,380 --> 00:32:54,220 it's across all industries I does the 807 00:32:52,630 --> 00:32:54,850 public sector private sector was seen 808 00:32:54,220 --> 00:32:56,288 out as well 809 00:32:54,849 --> 00:32:58,149 you know there's been paid freezes 810 00:32:56,288 --> 00:32:59,890 across the private sector for years and 811 00:32:58,150 --> 00:33:01,330 in the steel industry in particular we 812 00:32:59,890 --> 00:33:04,559 haven't had pay raises for the last 813 00:33:01,329 --> 00:33:06,668 three four years and for some of our 814 00:33:04,558 --> 00:33:08,048 people within the industry of actually 815 00:33:06,669 --> 00:33:10,929 our pay cuts because of the way that 816 00:33:08,048 --> 00:33:12,819 we've restructured and suchlike it seems 817 00:33:10,929 --> 00:33:15,730 to be an attack on the working person 818 00:33:12,819 --> 00:33:18,639 all the way through and it knocks on to 819 00:33:15,730 --> 00:33:20,140 your communities as well fit in the 820 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,580 steel industry reticular we got all this 821 00:33:20,140 --> 00:33:23,799 uncertainty at the moment you know we 822 00:33:21,579 --> 00:33:25,029 got people be then in our industry who 823 00:33:23,798 --> 00:33:27,099 want to move 824 00:33:25,029 --> 00:33:28,629 wanted to get mortgages but a mortgage 825 00:33:27,099 --> 00:33:30,699 company will not touch anybody at the 826 00:33:28,630 --> 00:33:32,920 moment it works with data because of the 827 00:33:30,700 --> 00:33:36,279 uncertainty because we've got the zero 828 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:40,180 hour contracts now which are and really 829 00:33:36,279 --> 00:33:42,819 blackmailing and peace people because if 830 00:33:40,180 --> 00:33:44,980 if you're an agency worker you're not 831 00:33:42,819 --> 00:33:46,000 you know if you say I can turn up for 832 00:33:44,980 --> 00:33:48,849 work today 833 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,440 you know you blackmailed and you're 834 00:33:48,849 --> 00:33:52,419 saying if you don't turn up today then 835 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,430 we're not going to give you any work the 836 00:33:52,420 --> 00:33:57,190 conditions are very bad they don't have 837 00:33:54,430 --> 00:33:59,680 work-life balance and it's really bad 838 00:33:57,190 --> 00:34:01,360 that and these are allowed to carry on 839 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,880 and something really needs to be done 840 00:34:01,359 --> 00:34:06,069 because people are being exploited thank 841 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:10,119 you and gentleman at the back in the red 842 00:34:06,069 --> 00:34:12,969 yeah hi I work for ISS and I'm a union 843 00:34:10,119 --> 00:34:15,880 rep as well and at the moment in our 844 00:34:12,969 --> 00:34:19,480 hospital we are facing reorganization by 845 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:22,750 a private contractor and effects it has 846 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:26,079 on the workers in terms of the reduction 847 00:34:22,750 --> 00:34:29,559 in ours reduction in wages and all 848 00:34:26,079 --> 00:34:33,340 aspects of their shift work is being 849 00:34:29,559 --> 00:34:36,929 decimated and the government is not 850 00:34:33,340 --> 00:34:41,220 doing anything to support the working 851 00:34:36,929 --> 00:34:44,559 person within the workplace in terms of 852 00:34:41,219 --> 00:34:47,769 protection the unions can do as much as 853 00:34:44,559 --> 00:34:49,690 they can but if their power is limited 854 00:34:47,769 --> 00:34:52,418 in terms of how much they do for the 855 00:34:49,690 --> 00:34:56,610 people they are not effective they are 856 00:34:52,418 --> 00:35:01,059 ineffective at the moment we are facing 857 00:34:56,610 --> 00:35:05,370 cuts in all the services which is going 858 00:35:01,059 --> 00:35:09,039 to impact on the local community the 859 00:35:05,369 --> 00:35:13,539 workers the hospital standards as well 860 00:35:09,039 --> 00:35:16,389 but in 10 you know we actually need 861 00:35:13,539 --> 00:35:18,369 somebody to speak up for us yeah I just 862 00:35:16,389 --> 00:35:20,529 wanted to make a point about unions I 863 00:35:18,369 --> 00:35:24,159 was recently made redundant my 864 00:35:20,530 --> 00:35:26,980 organization didn't recognize unions so 865 00:35:24,159 --> 00:35:29,259 it was a difficult process for me to be 866 00:35:26,980 --> 00:35:32,110 made redundant from a job and NACA 867 00:35:29,260 --> 00:35:33,760 confidence but also really faced the 868 00:35:32,110 --> 00:35:37,070 fact that I couldn't afford an 869 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:39,350 employment tribunal and was also warned 870 00:35:37,070 --> 00:35:42,620 various people in and around the 871 00:35:39,349 --> 00:35:45,589 organization that if I had took them to 872 00:35:42,619 --> 00:35:47,359 neeti I've had the grounds to do so it 873 00:35:45,590 --> 00:35:48,110 would cause me some harm for my future 874 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,970 career 875 00:35:48,110 --> 00:35:51,800 the other thing really I was told that 876 00:35:49,969 --> 00:35:55,699 it could take months of my energy and 877 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:57,230 time and just eat me up as an individual 878 00:35:55,699 --> 00:35:59,210 at the same time looking for new work 879 00:35:57,230 --> 00:36:01,519 and looking after my family that it 880 00:35:59,210 --> 00:36:04,070 could be really detrimental to go 881 00:36:01,519 --> 00:36:05,809 through that whole process thank you the 882 00:36:04,070 --> 00:36:08,230 way that that's kind of what I wanted to 883 00:36:05,809 --> 00:36:11,299 talk about is this huge increase in 884 00:36:08,230 --> 00:36:13,880 management bullying for those staff that 885 00:36:11,300 --> 00:36:16,850 in my lighter I've seen that rising 886 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:19,789 honestly and not just in in the private 887 00:36:16,849 --> 00:36:22,369 sector but in the public sector and no 888 00:36:19,789 --> 00:36:24,110 schoolteachers were and an often 889 00:36:22,369 --> 00:36:26,329 concomitant with that is you've got 890 00:36:24,110 --> 00:36:28,579 people at the top who paid astronomical 891 00:36:26,329 --> 00:36:31,429 salaries and it's in their vested 892 00:36:28,579 --> 00:36:33,949 interest to be bullies and I really do 893 00:36:31,429 --> 00:36:36,309 think that needs to be addressed and we 894 00:36:33,949 --> 00:36:40,339 need some representation of staff in 895 00:36:36,309 --> 00:36:42,619 workplaces oh yeah I think there's a 896 00:36:40,340 --> 00:36:44,480 there's another section of erican class 897 00:36:42,619 --> 00:36:46,190 in the public sector it's very often 898 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,800 forgotten about in all this and it's the 899 00:36:46,190 --> 00:36:50,150 Armed Forces and they're subjected to 900 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,730 housing crisis at the moment and their 901 00:36:50,150 --> 00:36:54,170 pay is frozen I believe and they're 902 00:36:52,730 --> 00:36:56,750 subject to redundancies and stuff like 903 00:36:54,170 --> 00:36:58,550 that and they have no unions they have 904 00:36:56,750 --> 00:37:00,559 no unions or they've got to rely on is 905 00:36:58,550 --> 00:37:02,480 the mo D and so the odds aren't good as 906 00:37:00,559 --> 00:37:04,340 a former soldier the mo D's in that 907 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,929 trustworthy so I mean where where'd you 908 00:37:04,340 --> 00:37:08,990 go with them and I think this could be a 909 00:37:05,929 --> 00:37:10,639 strong hand for you Jeremy because as we 910 00:37:08,989 --> 00:37:13,579 know the veteran vote was very important 911 00:37:10,639 --> 00:37:15,109 after 45 that settlement that you know 912 00:37:13,579 --> 00:37:16,849 these are people they do have votes and 913 00:37:15,110 --> 00:37:18,440 they have very little protection and 914 00:37:16,849 --> 00:37:19,969 they also have mental health issues is a 915 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,260 big thing in the military as well but 916 00:37:19,969 --> 00:37:22,519 I'm it's a difficult one to deal with I 917 00:37:21,260 --> 00:37:24,860 know but I'll be interested to hear when 918 00:37:22,519 --> 00:37:27,199 people think about this kind of hidden 919 00:37:24,860 --> 00:37:28,550 section of working people who are out 920 00:37:27,199 --> 00:37:30,609 there and veterans as well once you've 921 00:37:28,550 --> 00:37:32,330 left the services yeah thank you 922 00:37:30,610 --> 00:37:35,360 fundamental to everything we've been 923 00:37:32,329 --> 00:37:38,269 discussing this morning is about rights 924 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:40,490 of representation and rights to have 925 00:37:38,269 --> 00:37:42,409 some effect on our own environment so in 926 00:37:40,489 --> 00:37:43,199 opposition what we've done now is set up 927 00:37:42,409 --> 00:37:46,889 workplace to 928 00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:49,289 20 which is fundamentally about 929 00:37:46,889 --> 00:37:51,629 fulfilling basic international labour 930 00:37:49,289 --> 00:37:53,279 organization convention rights giving 931 00:37:51,630 --> 00:37:55,140 automatic rights of trade union 932 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:57,210 representation whether the union is 933 00:37:55,139 --> 00:37:59,309 recognized in your workplace or not your 934 00:37:57,210 --> 00:38:01,650 right to say I'm a member of unite I'm a 935 00:37:59,309 --> 00:38:04,639 member of unison every union it is I 936 00:38:01,650 --> 00:38:07,559 demand to be represented by that person 937 00:38:04,639 --> 00:38:09,420 counsel employment tribunal fees and the 938 00:38:07,559 --> 00:38:13,369 cost that can be awarded against them 939 00:38:09,420 --> 00:38:15,869 it's a right to justice for all of us 940 00:38:13,369 --> 00:38:19,380 those things are basically important but 941 00:38:15,869 --> 00:38:21,690 it's also looking at exploitation in 942 00:38:19,380 --> 00:38:24,750 lots of ways so zeros contracts are part 943 00:38:21,690 --> 00:38:26,460 of it the deliver rule example sport 944 00:38:24,750 --> 00:38:30,150 direct with and having forced to pay a 945 00:38:26,460 --> 00:38:33,869 million pounds back now in unpaid unpaid 946 00:38:30,150 --> 00:38:36,240 minimum pay wages so is about forcing 947 00:38:33,869 --> 00:38:39,000 changes which have only come where 948 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,979 there's been a union involvement sport 949 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,079 direct was only because you know I took 950 00:38:40,980 --> 00:38:46,349 up the case delivery because he got 951 00:38:43,079 --> 00:38:48,180 together in a union and made some some 952 00:38:46,349 --> 00:38:49,410 progress I realize you know a long way 953 00:38:48,179 --> 00:38:50,879 off what you're trying to achieve but 954 00:38:49,409 --> 00:38:52,889 you have made a lot of progress and 955 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,599 people begin to understand it but it's 956 00:38:52,889 --> 00:38:57,750 also about representation of 957 00:38:54,599 --> 00:38:59,670 self-employed workers there are several 958 00:38:57,750 --> 00:39:03,769 million people in Britain working a 959 00:38:59,670 --> 00:39:06,450 self-employed people some of them are 960 00:39:03,769 --> 00:39:09,059 kind of doing all right many are 961 00:39:06,449 --> 00:39:11,460 actually as badly exploited as people in 962 00:39:09,059 --> 00:39:13,349 work you know whether the company that 963 00:39:11,460 --> 00:39:14,460 they've done work for simply refuses to 964 00:39:13,349 --> 00:39:16,140 pay them and they said what you're going 965 00:39:14,460 --> 00:39:19,500 to do about it the points that are made 966 00:39:16,139 --> 00:39:21,029 about the steel industry fundamentally 967 00:39:19,500 --> 00:39:22,739 if we could have a manufacturing economy 968 00:39:21,030 --> 00:39:25,470 in Britain you've got to have a steel 969 00:39:22,739 --> 00:39:27,598 industry steel is fundamental to 970 00:39:25,469 --> 00:39:29,399 everything it's fundamental to transport 971 00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:31,980 it's fundamental to construction it's 972 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:34,230 fundamental in every way in our society 973 00:39:31,980 --> 00:39:36,449 nothing happens without still being 974 00:39:34,230 --> 00:39:38,099 involved in some way or the other this 975 00:39:36,449 --> 00:39:40,289 building wouldn't exist without steel 976 00:39:38,099 --> 00:39:43,650 girls that hold it up and so on and so 977 00:39:40,289 --> 00:39:47,039 on you know you know all of that so the 978 00:39:43,650 --> 00:39:49,889 future Port Talbot is being decided by 979 00:39:47,039 --> 00:39:52,199 essentially commercial negotiations 980 00:39:49,889 --> 00:39:53,989 between two global corporations 981 00:39:52,199 --> 00:39:57,389 going to decide whether it's tartar or 982 00:39:53,989 --> 00:39:59,459 somebody else that runs the company the 983 00:39:57,389 --> 00:40:03,118 missing element in this was the UK 984 00:39:59,460 --> 00:40:05,309 government until the steel workers made 985 00:40:03,119 --> 00:40:07,200 enough fuss about it there is some 986 00:40:05,309 --> 00:40:09,659 degree of involvement there has to be 987 00:40:07,199 --> 00:40:11,549 either complete or an element of public 988 00:40:09,659 --> 00:40:14,129 ownership in the industry there has to 989 00:40:11,550 --> 00:40:15,539 be an industrial strategy there has to 990 00:40:14,130 --> 00:40:18,030 be a national investment bank 991 00:40:15,539 --> 00:40:20,789 sufficiently funded to invest in 992 00:40:18,030 --> 00:40:23,490 infrastructure across the country roads 993 00:40:20,789 --> 00:40:26,639 railways particularly railways broadband 994 00:40:23,489 --> 00:40:29,069 digital and housing but also being 995 00:40:26,639 --> 00:40:31,259 prepared to invest in new products and 996 00:40:29,070 --> 00:40:33,599 new industries how many great inventions 997 00:40:31,260 --> 00:40:35,880 were made in this country where hedge 998 00:40:33,599 --> 00:40:38,700 funds buy them up and sell them to 999 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:40,410 somewhere else abroad or how many cases 1000 00:40:38,699 --> 00:40:43,019 where there's a small company doing 1001 00:40:40,409 --> 00:40:45,239 quite well developing new products maybe 1002 00:40:43,019 --> 00:40:48,329 a good employer cooperative what else 1003 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,979 cannot access bank capital despite the 1004 00:40:48,329 --> 00:40:51,720 fact that we have generously given the 1005 00:40:49,980 --> 00:40:53,400 bank's three hundred and eighty billion 1006 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:56,519 pounds in quantitative easing 1007 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,869 we're very generous people and they are 1008 00:40:56,519 --> 00:41:00,409 not prepared to invest in those 1009 00:40:57,869 --> 00:41:03,480 industrial products so what I want is a 1010 00:41:00,409 --> 00:41:06,239 national investment bank which will be 1011 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:08,068 prepared to invest in new industries and 1012 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:10,679 development this all sounds incredibly 1013 00:41:08,068 --> 00:41:12,480 revolutionary left-wing only in a 1014 00:41:10,679 --> 00:41:14,879 context we've had 30 years of lectures 1015 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:17,639 of neoliberal economics if this was a 1016 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:19,890 similar meeting in any German State 1017 00:41:17,639 --> 00:41:22,348 people and say well we do all that 1018 00:41:19,889 --> 00:41:24,059 already we're going to just go back to 1019 00:41:22,349 --> 00:41:25,318 our topic out the way that we want to 1020 00:41:24,059 --> 00:41:26,849 cover that we haven't got to you and 1021 00:41:25,318 --> 00:41:29,009 we've already talked about how it links 1022 00:41:26,849 --> 00:41:31,740 you know the question of the Iraq war 1023 00:41:29,010 --> 00:41:33,420 and the voices of the people involved in 1024 00:41:31,739 --> 00:41:35,189 that so can I mean is it okay if I have 1025 00:41:33,420 --> 00:41:37,530 somebody from there just to start us off 1026 00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:39,329 well just speak very briefly about it 1027 00:41:37,530 --> 00:41:41,069 you know I'm I'm personally suffering at 1028 00:41:39,329 --> 00:41:42,900 the moment with PTSD since coming home 1029 00:41:41,068 --> 00:41:44,940 from Iraq and I don't honestly know 1030 00:41:42,900 --> 00:41:46,380 what's worse being shelled by people 1031 00:41:44,940 --> 00:41:48,599 that I don't know I've got no problems 1032 00:41:46,380 --> 00:41:50,550 with war having to deal every day with a 1033 00:41:48,599 --> 00:41:52,559 weakened NHS they do want to help but 1034 00:41:50,550 --> 00:41:54,390 they have no money to do so you know 1035 00:41:52,559 --> 00:41:56,519 I've seen several friends die you know 1036 00:41:54,389 --> 00:41:59,338 from overdoses and things like that's 1037 00:41:56,519 --> 00:42:00,960 it's coming out it's absolutely awful I 1038 00:41:59,338 --> 00:42:02,460 don't know what we did there you know I 1039 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,619 feel like my mental health was swapped 1040 00:42:02,460 --> 00:42:05,699 for a few barrels of oil and that 1041 00:42:04,619 --> 00:42:08,548 you know it's quite a hard pill to 1042 00:42:05,699 --> 00:42:10,438 swallow I don't see the government 1043 00:42:08,548 --> 00:42:12,119 wanting to make any changes you know 1044 00:42:10,438 --> 00:42:13,768 we've got air strikes in Syria we're 1045 00:42:12,119 --> 00:42:15,180 dealing with Saudi Arabia but I have to 1046 00:42:13,768 --> 00:42:16,768 wait an hour enough sorry a year and a 1047 00:42:15,179 --> 00:42:19,018 half tacacs Esther just a basic 1048 00:42:16,768 --> 00:42:20,278 therapist to talk about my problems you 1049 00:42:19,018 --> 00:42:22,708 know I'd be on the streets if it wasn't 1050 00:42:20,278 --> 00:42:23,938 for my partner Vicki and she's living 1051 00:42:22,708 --> 00:42:25,708 its hell with me and I don't know you 1052 00:42:23,938 --> 00:42:27,568 know I'd like to see Jeremy what you how 1053 00:42:25,708 --> 00:42:28,198 you try and help us in the future if you 1054 00:42:27,568 --> 00:42:30,958 came to power 1055 00:42:28,199 --> 00:42:32,909 I was undiagnosed with PTSD and when I 1056 00:42:30,958 --> 00:42:34,558 came home I like many other people who 1057 00:42:32,909 --> 00:42:36,358 you know I've served we've ended up 1058 00:42:34,559 --> 00:42:38,369 getting into a bit of a fight because I 1059 00:42:36,358 --> 00:42:40,469 was undiagnosed I was sentenced to a 1060 00:42:38,369 --> 00:42:42,298 year and a half in military prison still 1061 00:42:40,469 --> 00:42:47,429 undiagnosed and then discharged from the 1062 00:42:42,298 --> 00:42:49,228 Army and it's its prey but it's been an 1063 00:42:47,429 --> 00:42:51,239 awful experience if I'm if I'm honest 1064 00:42:49,228 --> 00:42:56,669 with you because we felt that it's been 1065 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:58,469 no help do not I mean assist thank you 1066 00:42:56,670 --> 00:43:00,568 very much for sharing that with us other 1067 00:42:58,469 --> 00:43:02,519 people you know this is something that 1068 00:43:00,568 --> 00:43:03,838 you know these these are the people that 1069 00:43:02,518 --> 00:43:05,518 went out and fought that but obviously 1070 00:43:03,838 --> 00:43:08,639 this was a decision was made on our on 1071 00:43:05,518 --> 00:43:10,558 our half off largely against the will of 1072 00:43:08,639 --> 00:43:12,088 the people at the time so I'm sure 1073 00:43:10,559 --> 00:43:14,778 people have got thoughts about this John 1074 00:43:12,088 --> 00:43:16,920 to come in yeah I think the issue of you 1075 00:43:14,778 --> 00:43:18,989 well first of all thank you very much 1076 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:21,568 for sharing I know I think it the issue 1077 00:43:18,989 --> 00:43:24,380 of the Iraq Wars completely fractured 1078 00:43:21,568 --> 00:43:26,998 British society and I think you know 1079 00:43:24,380 --> 00:43:30,209 you're coming from that region my family 1080 00:43:26,998 --> 00:43:33,958 migrated and seeing the effects that our 1081 00:43:30,208 --> 00:43:37,379 foreign policy has on both people here 1082 00:43:33,958 --> 00:43:39,088 at home but also people abroad and the I 1083 00:43:37,380 --> 00:43:41,459 mean often as a society I feel like 1084 00:43:39,088 --> 00:43:44,548 because it's far away we don't see it we 1085 00:43:41,458 --> 00:43:46,739 we we tend not to talk about it and like 1086 00:43:44,548 --> 00:43:48,059 I know my family in our community is 1087 00:43:46,739 --> 00:43:49,949 completely disengaged with the Labour 1088 00:43:48,059 --> 00:43:51,689 Party once once we went in what I 1089 00:43:49,949 --> 00:43:54,150 believe it's not just my you know 1090 00:43:51,688 --> 00:43:57,088 tinkerbell belief but was in a legal war 1091 00:43:54,150 --> 00:43:59,189 that we engaged in that has seen the 1092 00:43:57,088 --> 00:44:01,679 region torn apart now we're seeing a 1093 00:43:59,188 --> 00:44:04,588 refugee crisis that is born out of that 1094 00:44:01,679 --> 00:44:07,949 and it's it's the cumulative effect of 1095 00:44:04,588 --> 00:44:10,409 what we do and you know we have we have 1096 00:44:07,949 --> 00:44:12,119 modern Iraq war crisis going on now the 1097 00:44:10,409 --> 00:44:15,569 question of Syria the question of 1098 00:44:12,119 --> 00:44:17,309 Palestine that's still gone up you know 1099 00:44:15,570 --> 00:44:21,150 we still have fundamental problems but 1100 00:44:17,309 --> 00:44:22,440 then I think I mean I think we have to 1101 00:44:21,150 --> 00:44:23,579 take the issues of foreign policy very 1102 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,800 very seriously and see that they have 1103 00:44:23,579 --> 00:44:30,059 very very limp axe back at home but also 1104 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:32,310 that our our moral guidelines should 1105 00:44:30,059 --> 00:44:34,139 extend beyond our borders the fact that 1106 00:44:32,309 --> 00:44:36,090 you know over a million people have died 1107 00:44:34,139 --> 00:44:38,429 in Iraq following what was an illegal 1108 00:44:36,090 --> 00:44:41,160 war you know the politics that we have 1109 00:44:38,429 --> 00:44:42,299 should extend beyond our borders and 1110 00:44:41,159 --> 00:44:44,699 what is the British channel you know 1111 00:44:42,300 --> 00:44:47,460 like and I think it's something that's 1112 00:44:44,699 --> 00:44:49,379 fractured society altogether yes I was 1113 00:44:47,460 --> 00:44:52,590 in the brims of a brilliantly devised 1114 00:44:49,380 --> 00:44:54,450 war in Afghanistan I saw no Dan from the 1115 00:44:52,590 --> 00:44:54,840 military as well I just wanted to I 1116 00:44:54,449 --> 00:44:57,960 remember 1117 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:59,550 it struck me during the or the brexit 1118 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,440 staff is always stuff but all the right 1119 00:44:59,550 --> 00:45:03,390 what kind of lease like made out the EU 1120 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,610 is kind of like Spectre in James Bond 1121 00:45:03,389 --> 00:45:06,599 analogies it was all about sovereignty 1122 00:45:05,610 --> 00:45:08,610 and stuff like that but it was never 1123 00:45:06,599 --> 00:45:10,079 discussed there's this other if you're 1124 00:45:08,610 --> 00:45:11,250 really worried about sovereignty and my 1125 00:45:10,079 --> 00:45:12,299 lesson the lesson I learned is the 1126 00:45:11,250 --> 00:45:14,190 soldiers you have to think about the 1127 00:45:12,300 --> 00:45:15,600 other side of the Atlantic there's a 1128 00:45:14,190 --> 00:45:17,389 relationship there and I know Jeremy's 1129 00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:20,279 of shared platforms with Jeremy's bit 1130 00:45:17,389 --> 00:45:21,269 opposed those wars and the way we hang 1131 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,490 on to American foreign policy 1132 00:45:21,269 --> 00:45:25,050 brilliantly obvious but I think there's 1133 00:45:23,489 --> 00:45:27,179 a serious discussion if we are worried 1134 00:45:25,050 --> 00:45:28,980 about sovereignty I mean there are no EU 1135 00:45:27,179 --> 00:45:31,379 there were never any EU bases on British 1136 00:45:28,980 --> 00:45:33,599 soil there are American ones the EU 1137 00:45:31,380 --> 00:45:35,820 never drags into Iraq and then 1138 00:45:33,599 --> 00:45:38,489 Afghanistan and then Iraq again and 1139 00:45:35,820 --> 00:45:40,230 Libya and Syria so I think that a 1140 00:45:38,489 --> 00:45:42,209 component of a foreign policy going 1141 00:45:40,230 --> 00:45:44,550 forward has to address the special 1142 00:45:42,210 --> 00:45:47,280 relationship with Americans I have now 1143 00:45:44,550 --> 00:45:48,780 no down at ofing dan has any doubt I 1144 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,160 don't think the rest of the 400 people 1145 00:45:48,780 --> 00:45:52,440 in our veterans organization have any 1146 00:45:50,159 --> 00:45:54,929 doubt a lot we were fired for a u.s. 1147 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:56,730 foreign policy nothing to do with with 1148 00:45:54,929 --> 00:45:58,710 with Britain and keeping our streets 1149 00:45:56,730 --> 00:45:59,699 safe by being over air or any of this 1150 00:45:58,710 --> 00:46:01,500 rubbish I think it's important we 1151 00:45:59,699 --> 00:46:06,449 address that relationship with America 1152 00:46:01,500 --> 00:46:08,400 thank you over here I really appreciate 1153 00:46:06,449 --> 00:46:10,829 your point and families and communities 1154 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:13,619 are absolutely devastated I'm so glad 1155 00:46:10,829 --> 00:46:15,929 that you spoke and I think that that is 1156 00:46:13,619 --> 00:46:17,519 one of the reasons that we so welcome 1157 00:46:15,929 --> 00:46:19,710 the new leadership of the Labour Party 1158 00:46:17,519 --> 00:46:21,230 because we think it would be a way to 1159 00:46:19,710 --> 00:46:23,630 deal with that really 1160 00:46:21,230 --> 00:46:26,929 dangerous connection with following us 1161 00:46:23,630 --> 00:46:28,910 US policy and I would just underline to 1162 00:46:26,929 --> 00:46:30,949 pick up your point that you know holes 1163 00:46:28,909 --> 00:46:34,879 so I mean with the pictures of Syria are 1164 00:46:30,949 --> 00:46:38,739 absolutely horrifying that whole whole 1165 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:43,550 whole regions people are being bombed 1166 00:46:38,739 --> 00:46:46,848 killed maimed and those who flee from 1167 00:46:43,550 --> 00:46:48,829 that heard that hell are then treated as 1168 00:46:46,849 --> 00:46:51,260 criminals you know when we get here I 1169 00:46:48,829 --> 00:46:53,480 mean I'm an immigrant myself so I think 1170 00:46:51,260 --> 00:46:56,089 those connections we really need to 1171 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:58,159 build on we all all our societies are 1172 00:46:56,088 --> 00:47:00,559 being devastated by war and we really 1173 00:46:58,159 --> 00:47:03,049 look to Jeremy and John to help to help 1174 00:47:00,559 --> 00:47:05,239 turn that around because we we just we 1175 00:47:03,050 --> 00:47:08,269 cannot live this way my very last point 1176 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:11,659 is that the the stealing of the oil that 1177 00:47:08,269 --> 00:47:13,460 that you know that the Britain the US 1178 00:47:11,659 --> 00:47:16,819 and the corporations are absolutely 1179 00:47:13,460 --> 00:47:19,400 plundering the third world and that 1180 00:47:16,820 --> 00:47:20,960 money is going to the 1% we never see it 1181 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,210 here we you know our services are 1182 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,650 deprived and there's a long history I 1183 00:47:23,210 --> 00:47:28,280 mean we've had five hundred years of 1184 00:47:24,650 --> 00:47:29,480 robbery from Africa India so I mean I 1185 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,099 think as people of color that's 1186 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,780 something that we want to bring to the 1187 00:47:31,099 --> 00:47:34,869 movement my last point although I know 1188 00:47:32,780 --> 00:47:37,130 we're talking about terrible things is 1189 00:47:34,869 --> 00:47:39,050 we're seeing you know in our Women's 1190 00:47:37,130 --> 00:47:40,130 Center there's there's new hope there's 1191 00:47:39,050 --> 00:47:42,769 new energy 1192 00:47:40,130 --> 00:47:44,960 people are coming in excited and wanting 1193 00:47:42,769 --> 00:47:46,309 to work you know on the campaign and I 1194 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,019 think that we also have to keep that in 1195 00:47:46,309 --> 00:47:50,210 mind that there's really hope that we 1196 00:47:48,019 --> 00:47:52,639 haven't seen before so we want to go 1197 00:47:50,210 --> 00:47:53,990 forward in that way so I mean I just 1198 00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:55,848 wanted to follow on really from both of 1199 00:47:53,989 --> 00:47:57,169 those points I mean as as you say if you 1200 00:47:55,849 --> 00:47:58,640 want to challenge if you're worried 1201 00:47:57,170 --> 00:48:01,220 about sovereignty of the challenge that 1202 00:47:58,639 --> 00:48:02,179 the Washington Consensus that Atlantis 1203 00:48:01,219 --> 00:48:04,578 this relationship you have to challenge 1204 00:48:02,179 --> 00:48:06,139 you know the City of London but and 1205 00:48:04,579 --> 00:48:08,900 that's why you're you're being attacked 1206 00:48:06,139 --> 00:48:14,659 because you represent something that is 1207 00:48:08,900 --> 00:48:16,010 tech fortunately not in this room you 1208 00:48:14,659 --> 00:48:19,118 represent something that is so dangerous 1209 00:48:16,010 --> 00:48:19,119 to those vested in 1210 00:48:20,539 --> 00:48:29,660 they don't like it's not Jeremy sweetie 1211 00:48:27,289 --> 00:48:32,359 and that's what I like somebody who 1212 00:48:29,659 --> 00:48:35,449 knows what's right in this world thank 1213 00:48:32,358 --> 00:48:36,889 you millions why don't ya we'll come 1214 00:48:35,449 --> 00:48:38,358 back to Jeremy so I just wanted to talk 1215 00:48:36,889 --> 00:48:40,278 about homelessness so I started working 1216 00:48:38,358 --> 00:48:44,630 with homeless young people in the heart 1217 00:48:40,278 --> 00:48:46,548 of Houston a day Center in 1998 and 1218 00:48:44,630 --> 00:48:49,338 predominantly then we got many young 1219 00:48:46,548 --> 00:48:51,068 people from around the country for Milan 1220 00:48:49,338 --> 00:48:54,078 Scotland places like this from the North 1221 00:48:51,068 --> 00:48:55,759 young people who typically became homes 1222 00:48:54,079 --> 00:48:58,219 because they escaped and neglect abuse 1223 00:48:55,759 --> 00:48:59,539 and these type situations some people 1224 00:48:58,219 --> 00:49:03,199 that wanted to come and just you know 1225 00:48:59,539 --> 00:49:05,599 come to the big city and get a job we've 1226 00:49:03,199 --> 00:49:08,358 always had part of our homeless 1227 00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:10,640 population being veterans now I 1228 00:49:08,358 --> 00:49:13,058 volunteer with in different 1229 00:49:10,639 --> 00:49:15,739 organizations including food banks and 1230 00:49:13,059 --> 00:49:17,719 walking around Camden my borough and 1231 00:49:15,739 --> 00:49:19,639 different boroughs the increase in 1232 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,619 homelessness is back 1233 00:49:19,639 --> 00:49:23,688 I saw a man begging on the street and he 1234 00:49:21,619 --> 00:49:26,989 looked malnourished and on the verge of 1235 00:49:23,688 --> 00:49:28,808 dying and most people and I watched 10 1236 00:49:26,989 --> 00:49:31,400 minutes most people he was invisible 1237 00:49:28,809 --> 00:49:34,729 completely - and I had a conversation 1238 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:37,130 with the cab driver today and he felt 1239 00:49:34,728 --> 00:49:38,958 that people were homeless because they 1240 00:49:37,130 --> 00:49:41,209 weren't strong enough and this is the 1241 00:49:38,958 --> 00:49:44,358 perception that they failed at life 1242 00:49:41,208 --> 00:49:46,219 they're not good enough somehow they 1243 00:49:44,358 --> 00:49:48,558 just couldn't get it together it's their 1244 00:49:46,219 --> 00:49:50,318 fault and actually it's not true and now 1245 00:49:48,559 --> 00:49:52,759 we're seeing a steep increase in 1246 00:49:50,318 --> 00:49:55,778 homelessness and much of it has to do 1247 00:49:52,759 --> 00:49:57,318 with them people's attitudes towards 1248 00:49:55,778 --> 00:50:00,168 homelessness I mean many people 1249 00:49:57,318 --> 00:50:01,699 unfortunately had this path laid out for 1250 00:50:00,168 --> 00:50:03,828 them they're brought up in areas of 1251 00:50:01,699 --> 00:50:05,959 deprivation in towns where there's no 1252 00:50:03,829 --> 00:50:08,239 longer industries anymore and again 1253 00:50:05,958 --> 00:50:10,548 because of the abuse that they ignore 1254 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:13,969 many of them disproportionately receive 1255 00:50:10,548 --> 00:50:16,159 at home can we just say that this is a 1256 00:50:13,969 --> 00:50:18,048 really very valuable and very good 1257 00:50:16,159 --> 00:50:19,140 discussion far better than any focus 1258 00:50:18,048 --> 00:50:22,259 group I've ever been 1259 00:50:19,139 --> 00:50:25,009 of dim and we'll have to work out how we 1260 00:50:22,260 --> 00:50:28,590 do it but it's got to be some way that 1261 00:50:25,010 --> 00:50:30,660 not exactly random but groups like 1262 00:50:28,590 --> 00:50:32,430 ourselves can be brought together to 1263 00:50:30,659 --> 00:50:34,500 continue this kind of discussion and 1264 00:50:32,429 --> 00:50:36,269 debate because political change only 1265 00:50:34,500 --> 00:50:38,880 comes about when a lot of people 1266 00:50:36,269 --> 00:50:40,920 mobilize together to achieve it and that 1267 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,840 it's obviously fundamental to everything 1268 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,490 that we're talking about believing so 1269 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,829 whilst we one-level we're talking about 1270 00:50:44,489 --> 00:50:50,269 a series of policy issues mental health 1271 00:50:46,829 --> 00:50:54,059 housing health education war and peace 1272 00:50:50,269 --> 00:50:56,190 environment so on it's also about a 1273 00:50:54,059 --> 00:50:59,719 level of consciousness and understanding 1274 00:50:56,190 --> 00:51:02,280 and while social media is a great way of 1275 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:05,269 instantly and rapidly communicating with 1276 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:08,610 people it often can be superficial and 1277 00:51:05,269 --> 00:51:09,929 cannot go into the sort of life 1278 00:51:08,610 --> 00:51:11,940 experiences that we're talking about 1279 00:51:09,929 --> 00:51:13,949 here they help to form our opinions and 1280 00:51:11,940 --> 00:51:15,659 so I'm not quite sure how it can be done 1281 00:51:13,949 --> 00:51:17,159 but let's work out ways of doing it cuz 1282 00:51:15,659 --> 00:51:19,469 I want the sort of thing to carry on I'm 1283 00:51:17,159 --> 00:51:23,239 sure you will I hope you all do as well 1284 00:51:19,469 --> 00:51:29,129 on the the issue has been raised over 1285 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:32,579 Iraq think back to the Gulf War of 1990 1286 00:51:29,130 --> 00:51:34,920 1991 there was an enormous use of 1287 00:51:32,579 --> 00:51:40,049 depleted uranium in southern Iraq after 1288 00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:43,650 the the troops went into southern Iraq 1289 00:51:40,050 --> 00:51:46,350 after Kuwait and that led to camia's 1290 00:51:43,650 --> 00:51:49,829 cancers and a health crisis all over 1291 00:51:46,349 --> 00:51:52,739 southern Iraq and led to 10 years of 1292 00:51:49,829 --> 00:51:55,049 sanctions on Iraq which didn't have much 1293 00:51:52,739 --> 00:51:56,879 effect whatsoever on the regime but had 1294 00:51:55,050 --> 00:51:58,470 a massive effect on the people of the of 1295 00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:01,610 the whole country the effect of the 1296 00:51:58,469 --> 00:52:05,789 regime was actually pretty minimal and 1297 00:52:01,610 --> 00:52:08,160 Britain was happily selling arms to Iraq 1298 00:52:05,789 --> 00:52:10,409 up until the late 1980s and I remember 1299 00:52:08,159 --> 00:52:12,149 being roundly abused by people in 1300 00:52:10,409 --> 00:52:14,789 Parliament for questioning the arms 1301 00:52:12,150 --> 00:52:16,200 sales strategy to sell I was saying and 1302 00:52:14,789 --> 00:52:17,670 they said well you've gotta sell arms or 1303 00:52:16,199 --> 00:52:19,439 everywhere ever anybody wants to buy 1304 00:52:17,670 --> 00:52:22,380 them and I said well sometimes these 1305 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:24,030 things come back to bite you is it what 1306 00:52:22,380 --> 00:52:26,099 would you know about it I said well just 1307 00:52:24,030 --> 00:52:27,690 an innocent person just making an 1308 00:52:26,099 --> 00:52:30,900 observation 1309 00:52:27,690 --> 00:52:35,460 then we go into the build-up to the Iraq 1310 00:52:30,900 --> 00:52:39,150 war in 2003 and I remember a meeting a 1311 00:52:35,460 --> 00:52:41,639 group of Labour MPs had we Tony Blair we 1312 00:52:39,150 --> 00:52:46,349 sat around a table we went through all 1313 00:52:41,639 --> 00:52:51,440 the arguments several times and I just 1314 00:52:46,349 --> 00:52:54,059 said look Tony why are we doing this and 1315 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:56,070 he slapped his hand on the table he said 1316 00:52:54,059 --> 00:53:01,980 we're doing it because it's the right 1317 00:52:56,070 --> 00:53:04,500 thing to do there's no analysis there 1318 00:53:01,980 --> 00:53:09,780 was no credible explanation of anything 1319 00:53:04,500 --> 00:53:11,820 so it went into Iraq we lost soldiers 1320 00:53:09,780 --> 00:53:14,970 the Americans lost soldiers the Iraqis 1321 00:53:11,820 --> 00:53:17,490 lost soldiers civilians died and it's 1322 00:53:14,969 --> 00:53:20,189 led to one war after another after 1323 00:53:17,489 --> 00:53:22,829 another after another it was a seminal 1324 00:53:20,190 --> 00:53:26,010 turning point in British politics and I 1325 00:53:22,829 --> 00:53:28,889 pledged last year that we would make an 1326 00:53:26,010 --> 00:53:31,560 apology for Iraq we did so along the 1327 00:53:28,889 --> 00:53:35,099 Chilcott report came out and I just felt 1328 00:53:31,559 --> 00:53:37,650 this horror but people like yourself 1329 00:53:35,099 --> 00:53:39,779 that suffered in Iraq those that died in 1330 00:53:37,650 --> 00:53:42,599 Iraq people then said well what was it 1331 00:53:39,780 --> 00:53:44,790 all for what was it all for there has to 1332 00:53:42,599 --> 00:53:50,719 be a change in attitude on foreign 1333 00:53:44,789 --> 00:53:53,639 policy it's too easy to build up kind of 1334 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:55,769 patriotic fervor and say we're going to 1335 00:53:53,639 --> 00:53:57,869 go in there and sort it out it's very 1336 00:53:55,769 --> 00:53:59,849 easy to vote to send somebody else's son 1337 00:53:57,869 --> 00:54:02,489 or daughter off to a place of danger 1338 00:53:59,849 --> 00:54:07,380 when you're not doing it yourself and so 1339 00:54:02,489 --> 00:54:09,869 I well I've spent my life on opposing 1340 00:54:07,380 --> 00:54:11,910 these things and want to see foreign 1341 00:54:09,869 --> 00:54:13,829 policy based on peace based on democracy 1342 00:54:11,909 --> 00:54:18,599 based on human rights and based on 1343 00:54:13,829 --> 00:54:20,190 justice and in the with us Tyrael things 1344 00:54:18,599 --> 00:54:21,989 that we may well be appointing in the 1345 00:54:20,190 --> 00:54:23,490 future let's have a minister for 1346 00:54:21,989 --> 00:54:26,159 disarmament and a minister 1347 00:54:23,489 --> 00:54:28,368 Pease as well who is pursuing those 1348 00:54:26,159 --> 00:54:30,679 things around the world and looking to 1349 00:54:28,369 --> 00:54:32,820 enforce the non-proliferation treaty 1350 00:54:30,679 --> 00:54:34,489 rather than pretending it's an obstacle 1351 00:54:32,820 --> 00:54:38,430 to rearmament 1352 00:54:34,489 --> 00:54:41,399 it's a question of attitude the refugee 1353 00:54:38,429 --> 00:54:43,259 crisis around the world now is the 1354 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:45,090 biggest it's ever been in recorded 1355 00:54:43,260 --> 00:54:46,920 history there's more displaced people 1356 00:54:45,090 --> 00:54:50,809 around the world there's any time in 1357 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:54,000 recorded human history and there are 1358 00:54:50,809 --> 00:54:57,570 lots of reasons environmental human 1359 00:54:54,000 --> 00:55:01,380 rights Wars lots and lots of reasons why 1360 00:54:57,570 --> 00:55:02,970 people are refugees and the numbers of 1361 00:55:01,380 --> 00:55:05,760 refugees that go into the poorest 1362 00:55:02,969 --> 00:55:08,429 countries is very high India took a lot 1363 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:10,320 of refugees from Sri Lanka Mexico took a 1364 00:55:08,429 --> 00:55:13,199 lot of refugees and Guatemala during the 1365 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:15,059 Central American wars there are large 1366 00:55:13,199 --> 00:55:16,980 numbers of refugees in different African 1367 00:55:15,059 --> 00:55:20,369 countries because of the war in the 1368 00:55:16,980 --> 00:55:22,409 Congo and then likewise now with the 1369 00:55:20,369 --> 00:55:26,539 very large number of refugees in Libya 1370 00:55:22,409 --> 00:55:29,699 or in Jordan or in Greece or in Turkey 1371 00:55:26,539 --> 00:55:32,579 we have to deal with it by a political 1372 00:55:29,699 --> 00:55:34,589 solution in Syria demanding an urgent 1373 00:55:32,579 --> 00:55:37,199 ceasefire and bringing about a political 1374 00:55:34,590 --> 00:55:40,530 solution in Syria we also have to 1375 00:55:37,199 --> 00:55:42,389 recognize that the humanitarian crisis 1376 00:55:40,530 --> 00:55:44,490 requires a humanitarian response you 1377 00:55:42,389 --> 00:55:46,589 know to solve the refugee crisis with 1378 00:55:44,489 --> 00:55:47,368 barbed wire tear gas and electronic 1379 00:55:46,590 --> 00:55:49,410 surveillance 1380 00:55:47,369 --> 00:55:51,539 you only can solve it with humanitarian 1381 00:55:49,409 --> 00:55:55,139 approach as many other ices been raised 1382 00:55:51,539 --> 00:55:58,259 this morning it is about how we do our 1383 00:55:55,139 --> 00:56:00,150 politics how people educate themselves 1384 00:55:58,260 --> 00:56:02,580 and inform themselves and how they can 1385 00:56:00,150 --> 00:56:04,858 come together around a strategy which is 1386 00:56:02,579 --> 00:56:08,779 about social justice is about inequality 1387 00:56:04,858 --> 00:56:11,190 is about investment is about a growing 1388 00:56:08,780 --> 00:56:14,600 opportunities for young people rather 1389 00:56:11,190 --> 00:56:17,400 than leaving them debt ridden and 1390 00:56:14,599 --> 00:56:19,349 finding difficulty in getting jobs we're 1391 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,970 not alone in this a lot of young people 1392 00:56:19,349 --> 00:56:22,650 in the United States and older in the 1393 00:56:20,969 --> 00:56:24,419 United States having exactly the same 1394 00:56:22,650 --> 00:56:27,960 kind discussion we're having now 1395 00:56:24,420 --> 00:56:30,269 likewise all across Europe maybe the 1396 00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:32,070 worm is turning on the neoliberal agenda 1397 00:56:30,269 --> 00:56:34,639 that was set down by Reagan and Thatcher 1398 00:56:32,070 --> 00:56:39,160 in the 1970s and so they see 1399 00:56:34,639 --> 00:56:39,159 historical justice time thanks very much 1400 00:56:40,409 --> 00:56:46,518 [Applause] 1401 00:56:44,048 --> 00:56:49,369 29th we were announce that we were up 1402 00:56:46,518 --> 00:56:51,169 for sale on March the 30th Jeremy Corbyn 1403 00:56:49,369 --> 00:56:53,599 broke away from his holiday in devon and 1404 00:56:51,170 --> 00:56:59,318 came and supported the still workers in 1405 00:56:53,599 --> 00:57:03,349 port talbot and the industry no 1406 00:56:59,318 --> 00:57:05,088 politician has been supports over I met 1407 00:57:03,349 --> 00:57:06,798 Jeremy I don't know if he remembers on a 1408 00:57:05,088 --> 00:57:08,900 street at Westminster and I was 1409 00:57:06,798 --> 00:57:10,068 screaming and going crazy because I've 1410 00:57:08,900 --> 00:57:12,470 been fighting for the student nurses 1411 00:57:10,068 --> 00:57:13,969 bursaries and you stopped to speak to me 1412 00:57:12,469 --> 00:57:16,459 and you gave me the time of day and you 1413 00:57:13,969 --> 00:57:18,108 listened to me and nobody else has 1414 00:57:16,460 --> 00:57:19,159 listened to me nobody else would step on 1415 00:57:18,108 --> 00:57:21,288 the street and talk to me about 1416 00:57:19,159 --> 00:57:23,868 something and you're the only person 1417 00:57:21,289 --> 00:57:25,309 that's done that and you listen you 1418 00:57:23,869 --> 00:57:29,180 really really listen to things that we 1419 00:57:25,309 --> 00:57:31,640 say to you I honestly think that Jeremy 1420 00:57:29,179 --> 00:57:33,679 Corbyn represents truth in politics 1421 00:57:31,639 --> 00:57:36,710 today and I don't think we see this 1422 00:57:33,679 --> 00:57:39,649 anywhere else and I think that is why 1423 00:57:36,710 --> 00:57:41,900 the force of the attack from wherever is 1424 00:57:39,650 --> 00:57:44,028 so strong and I think if we want truth 1425 00:57:41,900 --> 00:57:46,608 and we want honesty then I think this is 1426 00:57:44,028 --> 00:57:48,679 the man to vote for not we don't have 1427 00:57:46,608 --> 00:57:51,078 anybody who voices our concerns 1428 00:57:48,679 --> 00:57:54,460 apart from Jeremy thank you and I 1429 00:57:51,079 --> 00:57:57,470 believe that's the man for the people 1430 00:57:54,460 --> 00:57:59,568 for the first time in my life I've got 1431 00:57:57,469 --> 00:58:01,068 hope and our political system and I've 1432 00:57:59,568 --> 00:58:02,838 got hope that you know twelve months ago 1433 00:58:01,068 --> 00:58:04,759 we were able to achieve something that 1434 00:58:02,838 --> 00:58:07,130 was impossible and we can't take a step 1435 00:58:04,759 --> 00:58:08,960 back now and I think Jeremy John and 1436 00:58:07,130 --> 00:58:10,400 this kind of politics give young people 1437 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:13,789 like me who have been marginalized 1438 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:15,500 forever hope again huge percentage of 1439 00:58:13,789 --> 00:58:17,180 people out there now we don't vote in 1440 00:58:15,500 --> 00:58:18,679 general elections they're totally 1441 00:58:17,179 --> 00:58:20,449 disillusioned with with the political 1442 00:58:18,679 --> 00:58:23,058 system they're totally disillusioned 1443 00:58:20,449 --> 00:58:24,889 with politicians they've seen I think 1444 00:58:23,059 --> 00:58:26,660 Jeremy's the type of person who could 1445 00:58:24,889 --> 00:58:29,028 galvanize those people back to the 1446 00:58:26,659 --> 00:58:31,548 ballot box and hopefully vote for a 1447 00:58:29,028 --> 00:58:35,440 future government that cares a bit more 1448 00:58:31,548 --> 00:58:38,778 and Jeremy and John have stood alongside 1449 00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:41,450 me and just other disabled people as 1450 00:58:38,778 --> 00:58:44,210 we've been attacked again and again by 1451 00:58:41,449 --> 00:58:46,519 New Labour and by the 1452 00:58:44,210 --> 00:58:49,220 last two conservative governments and 1453 00:58:46,519 --> 00:58:51,289 that's why I am supporting Jeremy it 1454 00:58:49,219 --> 00:58:52,308 gives us hope but also just on the 1455 00:58:51,289 --> 00:58:54,170 environment it's always been at the 1456 00:58:52,309 --> 00:58:54,890 heart of Jeremy's policies been out in 1457 00:58:54,170 --> 00:58:57,650 Paris at the climate negotiations 1458 00:58:54,889 --> 00:58:59,239 outfits and flood victims understands 1459 00:58:57,650 --> 00:59:00,650 the need to invest in renewables in 1460 00:58:59,239 --> 00:59:02,629 order to move us away from fossil fuels 1461 00:59:00,650 --> 00:59:04,039 and start a green industry and also 1462 00:59:02,630 --> 00:59:05,900 understands it as a social justice issue 1463 00:59:04,039 --> 00:59:07,009 and how it does impact the poorest 1464 00:59:05,900 --> 00:59:08,869 people and how it will impact the 1465 00:59:07,010 --> 00:59:11,270 refugee crisis I just say something from 1466 00:59:08,869 --> 00:59:14,780 a queer and LGBT perspective that you've 1467 00:59:11,269 --> 00:59:18,409 been a you know in solidarity with with 1468 00:59:14,780 --> 00:59:21,530 our community your entire political 1469 00:59:18,409 --> 00:59:25,808 career and it's been really great to see 1470 00:59:21,530 --> 00:59:25,809 the hashtag lasers for Jessa 1471 00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:34,950 Oh 112881

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