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Thanks I'm so good to see so many people
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here in glee blissfully and I'm one of
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the local counselors here my name's
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Chris piece and I know a lot of you here
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so and it's really good to see people
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from the valley from a little bit
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further beyond and some people from a
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long way beyond and we've got Jeremy
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here who's come to join us today and and
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I know that there's so many things that
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we're all united in knowing is wrong
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with our society and that's the reason
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that we're here to share our concerns
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and to find that common ground and to
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look at how we go forward to making
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things better and gentleman at the back
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yes yes hi Jeremy my name is Dave and
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I'm chair an organization called
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disability labor which is basically
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disabled members of the Labour Party and
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because of the support you've given
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disabled people and other minorities in
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society we have nominated you for later
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the Labour Party you will be aware that
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the plight of disabled people in society
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since this government and the previous
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one
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the previously condemned government
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given has been quite appalling that
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they've had benefit cuts that there's
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been an increase in disability here
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crime could you give us a brief a vision
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of how you see the lives of disabled
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people under a Labour government with
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you as liberal Minister one is to
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restore the cuts in the benefits that
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have taken place two is to guarantee the
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personal independence payment system
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which I know the government tried to
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remove in the budget in April and then
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retreated on it a few days later at
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nevertheless the the threat of taking
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away and it amounts to four billion
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pounds in expenditure is huge and could
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come back in the Autumn Statement
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thirdly is completely changing the whole
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mentality around in surrounding the
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capability of a work test into one where
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people with disabilities want to work
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the employer if they take them on should
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be supported in taking them on with a
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depth a
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if necessary but also send the message
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out there that any of us may be disabled
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now or could very easily become disabled
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we could cross that road get knocked
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over and suddenly we've lost the use of
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a legs or or whatever else and we're
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then going to suddenly realize how life
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changes and how a society that actually
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includes everybody could be very very
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different from society we've got at the
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present time so it's a it's an attitude
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in the psyche and mentality of all of us
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we've got to change as well just as much
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as we have to change it in respect of
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mental health and mental health issues
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or something I also feel very very
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strongly and very very passionately
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about and lady here sorry I am so I'm a
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counselor and I've been having to try
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and help single men who have been made
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unemployed or they've been off sick due
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to accidents and they've had the the
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sick pay stopped they're in desperate
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need and then they go for the interviews
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to see if they can get it employment
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supports and it so they can't get it and
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they're in the right State and I've
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pointed them towards some assistance
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places and as you say it's they've been
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taken to a tribunal and usually they've
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won the case but it's so humiliating and
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degrading to have to go through that and
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we don't want need that type of system
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that we need a better system yeah and I
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mean at the moment it's like the carers
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allowance it's still hovering around 60
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pounds a week for a full-time job I
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myself am a parent carer and we fear
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every year that the rest I will be
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caught and you're no fault of your the
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local council but because of of the
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course and that will just be a disaster
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will be a tragedy and it will lead to a
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lot of families going into the social
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services system it really aids on the
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carers and carers allowance it's
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insufficient it was a big campaign to
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get any kind of carers of outs in the
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first place and having achieved that it
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should be upgraded and up rated with
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them
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it's insufficient the need for respite
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care and respite care facilities is very
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very important so that both get a break
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the the person who's cared for as well
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as the carer is very important if we
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didn't have carers what would actually
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be the case either those with severe
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multiple disabilities would be taken in
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to some form of care at very great cost
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with very inadequate care often provide
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as we have in the past before the
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concept of Independent Living came in
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and so there are kind of underrated
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under recognized and undervalued massive
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resource for all of us and should be
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respected for what they do I understand
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that we do need to look at trying to
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raise standards of living for people
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that are carers people with disabilities
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and everything else what I also want to
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link into that is the prevention side of
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that because what I'm I'm a trade union
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rep and a lot of the cases I deal with
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are people dealing with stress at work
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and it is actually stress work-related
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stress and trying to get employers to
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recognize that and actually do something
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about it even the HSE don't always
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recognize it if we do act we encourage
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people to accident and instant
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performance because actually it is that
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it's something that the employer needs
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to take responsibility for I have a
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member at the moment he's he was
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witnessed to her suicide where the train
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hit somewhere he suffered with PTSD the
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company is just allowed him to go on and
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on and on we've been trying to gain Hill
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health retirement and they go into
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panels and panels and panels and you
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know this place is if the company don't
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want to understand his need I mean
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recently I was working with a young
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woman who have been a sanction she's 19
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years old and she's homeless and she
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phoned me up in in a flood of tears and
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we was able to help her and and I'm
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hoping I'm not seeing it for a couple
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weeks but she had an integral evolve and
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she's got a job and you sorted out with
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the house things so there's that all
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raft of stuff for young people it's them
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you know they can be affected by all
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sorts of things you've totally talked
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about some of them
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it might be illness in the family a
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family breaks up and in fact they find
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themselves in a situation that they
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probably never never dreamed up I myself
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am 62 year old well last year I was
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sanctioned for 13 weeks because I didn't
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accept a job a place I never had any
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interview at the DWP are making these
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things up and functioning people 13
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weeks they expected me to go out and at
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the time again any advice from anyone so
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I took it upon myself I went to the
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place where they said that I'd have the
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job interview
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they've got no record of me I then got a
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letter from them to take it back there
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to the Job Center who eventually back
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down and decided that I could be paid
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but then I also got told by this lady at
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the Job Center every adviser has got to
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a sanction at least five people per week
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can I bring you in on that yeah I did
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want to touch on that because people
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don't I don't a lot of people don't
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actually know when we talk about
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sanctions that people being sanctioned
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for weeks and months and years roll in
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and you get a lecture about a month
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later with absolutely nothing but you
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know people starve to death than the
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food
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last night I was trying to save a guy's
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life because it was it was suicidal
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today I managed to get in the help that
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he needs
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now it is about class the poor poor of
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this country are not giving any
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opportunities in this country at all
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anymore we used to have I remember being
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able to go to college do you about going
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to university slip in a job step out of
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a job that isn't a plan anymore
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being poor makes you depressed you makes
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you malnourished malnutrition doesn't
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mean to starving it means you're eating
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the wrong type of food and what got into
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the press the other day is that the fact
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the figures the malnutrition figures ads
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are one of the highest on the the points
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that were made yourself about
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sanctioning and attitudes well I'm
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absolutely fed up with the way in which
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a lot of our papers have fallen into the
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thing about
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stay in bed Britain's scrounger Britain
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they are all scroungers dossers etc etc
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etc well sorry people don't actually
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choose to be poor they don't choose to
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live in that sort of way for the very
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large majority they want some kind of
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respect and decency within their lives
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and before last summer our party it
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unfortunately often indulged in this
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whole activity and used some pretty bad
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language and we were invited to abstain
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on the welfare reform bill just over a
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year ago on the basis that the Tories
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had won the general election and
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therefore we had to accept the majority
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of the population we're actually against
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people receiving welfare well the two
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things don't arithmetic me add up never
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never mind the morals behind it and so
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we have as you've probably noticed since
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then completely changed our approach and
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I'm absolutely determined we're going to
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carry on with a changed approach about
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social security in Britain
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my name is save Parliament local
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businessmen my question is about
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European Union so we have made decision
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to go out of European Union just shortly
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and British Pound is getting weaker
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every day is melted by 25% so we do not
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know where we send them if we go in out
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of the European Union if we were
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continuing so it is unknown moment like
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to ask about if you were a prime
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minister which we open what would you do
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going to stay like that or going out
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what will be the benefit on the
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businesses because at the moment we have
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got the problem with that it wasn't a
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result I wanted I wanted us to remain
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and reform the European Union I didn't
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think it was perfect but I wanted it
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reformed particularly the sort of
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free-market instincts that there were so
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many in the European Union
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however we will give the result we've
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got we have to urgently agree on a
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number of things one we retain consumer
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protection environmental protection
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workers protection rights that we've
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gained through European regulation we
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have to maintain the market access to
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Europe
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for British manufactured goods and
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British financial services into the
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European Union and we have to have a
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sensible good trading relationship with
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the European Union because we're going
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to be the neighbours of it whatever
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relationship is so I've set up a meeting
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with the Norwegian Labour Party to look
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at the Norwegian model where they're not
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members the European Union but they act
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very closely with the European Union
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we're still members of the Council of
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Europe we're still members of the
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Organization for Security and
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Cooperation in Europe there has to be a
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continuing relationship with the
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European Union trade treaties at the
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moment are all done through the European
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Union we could make our own trade
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treaties but I'm absolutely clear I'm
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not going to sign up to transatlantic
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trade and investment partnership and
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what goes with that but I do I do
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recognize we've either got to do trading
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via the European Union or set up our own
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trade treaties we have to recognize the
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result work with that result and protect
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the best we got from being in the
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European Union and develop ourselves
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into an efficient investment strong
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manufacturing economy in Britain with a
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lowest level of investment in
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manufacturing infrastructure and
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everything else of any other country
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what some of the Tories want is us to
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become a low tax low wage
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bargain-basement economy on the shores
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of Europe I want us to be a place of
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investment of growth of sustainability
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and opportunity for all of our young
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people with a good relationship with our
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neighbors across the channel right so
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that was pretty clear it'll be a prison
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is very clear that the thing that I
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always think about example Council for
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latest I I always think that this estate
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was built for a city that was have
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centuries of manufacturing and industry
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and we've had that being art taken out
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of this city and the people to get from
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those to have full employment again is
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bang-on what Jeremy said we need
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investment in manufacturing we need to
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bring back industry that's the way to
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get more people into work because the
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industry down there what people want out
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that's the main thing you know that we
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should be looking at now he's not just
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industry and growth for growth's sake we
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should be talking about a green new deal
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we all have read the papers in the last
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few days we will have noticed that July
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is the hottest month in earth and yet
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nobody seems to be bothered about that
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we've talked it as the started of this
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talking about what what sort of UT do we
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want for our days and that you know wait
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everybody butyl if that's how it is the
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way things that we now the Tories of
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relegated climate change to their - I
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don't know the 500 priority of change
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manator think they're not bothered about
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the climate change act and so we've got
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to a position now that with labour party
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there'll be lots of jobs in it for lots
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of people all the energy efficiency that
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needs to do for all these hours of the
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year the refuge Sheffield the rest of
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the country plenty away from lots of
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fall and it's not soon to work for you
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know your adequate to universities
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workforce to ordinary working-class folk
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and these plenty to be done can I give
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you an example of how we can move that
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forward and thanks for your point I was
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in a couple weeks ago in Swansea talking
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to a group of cancers there who've
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managed to get the funding together for
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Swansea to build by direct labour a new
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housing estate all houses to passive
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house standards so what are they
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achieving good housing affordable social
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rent lifetime tenancy passive house
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standards their folders zero or
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negligible energy costs for the tenants
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moving in to those properties and
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obviously protection of the environment
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as a whole we've got to change our
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attitude towards the environment and
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towards energy there is a great many
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jobs can be created by sustainable
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agriculture sustainable manufacturing
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which actually has some regard for the
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environment I think with the environment
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not against the environment I'm a
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mentality who works
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[Applause]
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what the gentleman said before about
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reinvesting in our manufacturing base
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that's what we need to do we don't want
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to be a low-wage Zilla wala contract
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bargain-basement offshore we need to
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rebuild what made cities like Sheffield
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Middlesbrough and Newcastle and Leeds
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great rebuild our manufacturing allows
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young monster as well green
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manufacturing as well now I'm a youth
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worker I've been a youth worker in
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Sheffield for nearly 50 years
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one of the things that really upsets me
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now is that when you look at the
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services for young people it's all about
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their future that's fine but if you
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screw up their present they don't have a
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future and one of the things that Youth
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Work does is to work with young people
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now and it's so youth it's a
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relationship with with our dolts that's
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without sanction at the moment it's been
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stripped out of the system and then we
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wonder why we have things like young
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people in crisis young people who were
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homeless I mean I want to just build on
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that ask you about education and
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aspiration because I think it's
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systematically being crushed and sadly
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it was started by our party with the
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introduction of student fees my dad came
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to this country when he was about 12 you
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worked in the steel works I went to a
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local comprehensive as did my sisters we
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were very lucky to benefit from free
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education my sister got a first class
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honours in chemistry and a PhD and I
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qualified as a barrister I still live in
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the area that I grew up which is Tinsley
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which is apart of the East End of
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Sheffield and we would not be in the
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positions that we are were it not for
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the opportunities that were given to us
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and also the fact that we could dream
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and those dreams seemed attainable now
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they are systematically being crushed
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what was your debt when you left
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University I was very very lucky because
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there was times I survived on 10 pounds
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a week I my maintenance grant was just
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enough to cover my rent I actually came
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out of a university with no debt but
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that was because I had a father who came
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to this country with virtually nothing
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making sure that I did things properly
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but now you know as a professional I
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look at my two children
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and and I can't imagine that I can give
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them the help that my father gave me
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they're going to come out with 40,000
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pounds if they're lucky of death which
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is enough we used to be enough to buy a
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house here if I had not had the benefit
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of free education if I'd not have the
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support if my dreams hadn't been
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encouraged I wouldn't be doing the job I
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do now and there's so many people I meet
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in areas like this areas like Tinsley
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I'm a see so much talent in them they
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have so much ability but you just think
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I can't go to University and what's
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happening now is that forget about
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attacks on students dreams are being
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crushed people say you're not a leader
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you've inspired me it made me join make
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my wife join my children support you my
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daughter thinks you're obi-wan Kenobi by
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the way although I do joke with it if
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you watch any films you know when it's
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really bad you need a mature man with a
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white beard coming home but you know you
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you have inspired as you've moved us
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because if people think a leader is
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something that Blair was or Cameron was
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that's synthetic it's Hollow
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a leader is somebody that can move
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people can motivate people and that's
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what you've done and then the thing that
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I like about you that I the oh and I
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don't think even comes close to bring it
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to the table I'm a firm believer you
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have your principles and our job is to
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convince people to move towards us if
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their dog
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we don't change our principle we work
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hard at what we shouldn't become which
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is what I think labor became was a vet
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weathervane forever spinning trying to
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find the prevailing wind to get people
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to vote for us no I think the reason why
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hundreds of thousands of people have
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come because in you they see hope they
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see what really Labour was what I grew
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up seeing what Labour was myself when I
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was in sixth form I was so passionate to
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go to uni I finished my first day of une
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now and I'm thinking is there something
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else I could do because I don't think I
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could continue with university because
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literally not like when I finished
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University I don't think it's so hard
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for me to even think of getting a job
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because when I come out you know the
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stuff that I need to pay for it just
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crazy one of my siblings she got a first
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class degree and then she got thirsty a
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first class degree and until now she
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still hasn't been able to get a job
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until now she's been struggling she
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works so hard day and night just so then
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she can get a job and she studied
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biomedical science and there's no
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opportunity for I'm student engineer and
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I think I don't even think I have
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opportunity because I was going on my
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sister my sister's in for a master's to
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study in pharmacy and she doesn't even
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think I would speak to her yesterday she
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doesn't even think she's gonna succeed
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because she's working two part-time jobs
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so then she can live so then she can
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live on our study we're literally
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struggling everyone I speak to students
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then literally they're struggling no one
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know us I spoke to so many students
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because I'm part of my Students Union
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and I speak to so many students like a
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younger there are 16 17 or 18 and
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literally they have so much talent but
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literally they can't afford it their
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parents are struggling and literally we
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reach the gala parents like supporting
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the same go to universities so then you
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can you can be in a better situation
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than us distribute so much and us at
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like a few months ago in May I sat down
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with one of uni lecturers because I was
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running for position within the Union
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and I was doing research about the BMI
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attainment gap so many people are
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leaving universe
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because they literally stood within the
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first three months not the first
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literally I was having depression my
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first three months I was literally
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struggling so much University I don't
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know what's going on like if I was going
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to continue so many of my friends
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there's so much passion they were clever
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and they dropped out within the first
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three months if you shatter people's
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dreams if you break their backs before
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they get a chance to qualify to achieve
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things like this young brother wants to
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and then you try to make out some kind
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of meritocracy isn't and also debt it
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what it does it makes you risk-averse
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when all you've got is a tenner you
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become risk-averse or when you've got 40
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grands worth of debt you don't want to
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take chances and what you don't have
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time to do is be to be a critical
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thinker to hold government to account
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because all you're doing is running in
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the wheel trying to pay off your debts
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we need to bring up our children to
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understand each other to work with each
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other obviously to make the best of
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their own lives but also to understand
553
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where what we have has come from and how
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it was achieved our kids are not brought
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up to understand that they brought up to
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believe that somehow or other one day
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Parliament's would be a really good idea
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to have a National Health Service let's
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do it they didn't say the struggles that
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went on for decades for the principle
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behind it likewise the principle of
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comprehensive education as opposed to
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selective and more elitist education I
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don't require every young person to go
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to university any more than I require
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every young person to get a good-quality
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apprenticeship but I do require a
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society that gives every young person an
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opportunity to get apprenticeship or go
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to university so that the the
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opportunity is there and not be saddled
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with the debt at the end of it what
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we've done is turned education into a
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commodity for under fives and a
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commodity for over 18 we've had 30 years
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of being told that neoliberal economics
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is they got the only answer to
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everything no it doesn't it's a question
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of expanding community involvement
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empowering communities great people
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don't go off and achieve things on their
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own
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ordinary people achieve things because
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all of us come together to make sure
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that we all benefit from it
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when you bring people together you
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achieve things when you divide people we
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all lose surely the great strength we've
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got in the labour party is that we have
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this massive membership now half a
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million people they can be that
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community campaigning pressure in our
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community that can be a force for so
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much good I think it'll be a long time
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before the Daily Mail The Daily Express
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or the Evening Standard or The Telegraph
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or any of those papers even begin to
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understand what community politics in
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community force is about but they'll
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understand it when we show that strength
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of unity that can bring about the
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changes in the mentality and attitudes
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in our society which can bring about
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real justice for everybody it's very
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much fun that's what you stand for and
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that's why they trying to destroy you
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and what you stand for they understand
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it don't worry about it it's only Jeremy
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this talk about workers rights and
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actually meaning it if we need a more
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equal society we need better workers
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rights and get rid of this anti trade
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union law that's just been affecting its
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cooperation not competition and the
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fundamental difference is in this
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leadership campaign is same old status
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quo versus proper change proper progress
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if you want hope you've got one choice
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thank you thank you thank you very much
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we've done well today the rain has
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stopped the Sun has come out what's
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better than one
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and it looks to me even more people here
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tonight than the were in the leadership
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campaign rally we held here a year ago
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thank you all of you very much for
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coming along here tonight we need to
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stand up together or do people need to
629
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stand together and try and work together
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to make change in our society the rich
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are standing together the rich managed
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to go out and vote for the Tories and
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make sure they protect their interests
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and we need to start signing up for our
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interests our biggest problem was that
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there wasn't a clear enough alternative
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being put by us to the people of this
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country we were also accepting the
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argument that the banking crisis of 2008
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9 somehow other had to be paid for by
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cutting the services that are necessary
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for the majority of people in this
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country but accepting that the very
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buzzy and Nora tea would continue to be
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very wealthy and indeed become even
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wealthier as a result of the tax system
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that we've got less than two weeks and
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I've joined Labour Party because of
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Jeremy Corbyn reason being I'm 19 I'm a
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student I'm a Muslim and being me and I
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believe that Jeremy Corbyn and his
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campaign will tackle this issue it is
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the function of government to reach out
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to everybody in our society it is the
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function of government to set up a
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national investment bank 500 billion
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parents being made available for
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investment all over the country in
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crucial infrastructure but also housing
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and also being prepared to invest in
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manufacturing industry so those
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high-tech developments those high-tech
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discoveries those good-quality
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sustainable jobs are supported by a
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public investment which will improve the
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living standards
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and indeed the tax income of government
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of everybody in the future rather than
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the few it's about public investment on
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a public realm majority in this country
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they are not and we need the poor to get
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a fair deal these it and this is why I
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need Liberian power again I want the
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Labour Party to be there for those
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people who didn't vote last time and to
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educate those to come over to this style
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of politics what Jamie's campaign has
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done is open the door to a new tide of a
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vibrant democracy it's led by young
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people that can give them a voice and
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can give them a giver as a hope for real
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political engagement in the future as I
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joined the Labour Party become for you
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and I'll be campaigning for you thank
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you very much all righty thank you hi
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how you know really good to see ya of
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course coach can I see them up yet and
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all of that you've got my support all of
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us and thanks for what you said I really
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don't know you deserve it mm-hmm thank
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you met all of our you sir okay take
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care you'll find out it sure thank you
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thanks for the delivery commonly called
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the liver room last week before we know
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what he kept a like seven pound per hour
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plus one pound by delivery but since
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last week they change the pay structure
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they are not going to pay hourly rate
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they're going to change it for 3 pounds
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zombified by delivery so the drivers who
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ever worked for the liberal what
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happened is they end up going to get
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hourly pay like I said the wedding two
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hours outside for the delivery and they
705
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got only one delivery in two hours they
706
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are getting paid only 3075 for two hours
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I suppose we would fall into the
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category of the working poor and we've
709
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we've been on 13 strikes in 2014 to try
710
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and achieve the de London living wage
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it's connected with the delivered what
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the delivery routes a worker said and I
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work at a Women's Centre and we work
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with women of color immigrant women who
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were over-represented in no wage work
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caring
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health care zero many and zero hour
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contracts and we see directly the effect
719
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that low wages have on women and that
720
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combines with the cuts in benefit
721
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because first first of all they cut
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asylum-seekers money down to almost
723
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nothing and that's been extended to
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millions of others and benefits are like
725
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our safety net work and we would very
726
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much support and and call for others to
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support delivery you know we need all of
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us to go up together not just women in
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00:29:40,108 --> 00:29:45,288
Parliament but also grassroots women to
730
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go up as well
731
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I am a nurse and our pay has been
732
00:29:48,628 --> 00:29:54,148
attacked since 2010 we've lost 15% of
733
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our pay now we've got another three
734
00:29:54,148 --> 00:29:59,038
years of papers strength coming up and
735
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nurses are leaving the health care
736
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service in their droves we have nurses
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accessing food banks the amount of
738
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colleagues that I have telling me that
739
00:30:04,558 --> 00:30:09,058
accessing food banks is disgusting we
740
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have nurses that there was a study in
741
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the winter that can't afford to heat the
742
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home they can't afford to put food on
743
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the table for their children they're
744
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working like 80 hour weeks just to be
745
00:30:16,048 --> 00:30:21,598
able to have be able to afford to pay
746
00:30:17,700 --> 00:30:22,499
their rent in London and nursing is in
747
00:30:21,598 --> 00:30:24,479
such a bad state
748
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and they also downtrodden for years and
749
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years and years it really really
750
00:30:25,558 --> 00:30:28,769
concerns me about what's going to happen
751
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because I don't know if there will be
752
00:30:28,769 --> 00:30:33,720
any fight back and as it stands nursing
753
00:30:31,669 --> 00:30:36,470
really hangs in the balance
754
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:41,639
our whole profession is in tatters so
755
00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:44,429
it's not not so good I'm a doctor and we
756
00:30:41,638 --> 00:30:48,199
were totally numb bastard in a lot of
757
00:30:44,429 --> 00:30:51,960
the press without any of our concerns
758
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being relayed to the public at all they
759
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:57,840
they lied quite frankly about what the
760
00:30:55,229 --> 00:31:00,298
real issues were and painted us as I'm
761
00:30:57,839 --> 00:31:02,339
sure they will with you as being you
762
00:31:00,298 --> 00:31:05,098
know greedy and selfish and demanding
763
00:31:02,339 --> 00:31:07,288
things beyond your value when it's just
764
00:31:05,098 --> 00:31:11,089
not the case and it's just very a very
765
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concerning change in the culture whereby
766
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the voice of the workers is being
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totally
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and it's only really through union
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action that we have seen some of the
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most progressive changes in working
771
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rights in history gender equality racial
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equality in the workplace and I just
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think it's a very very alarming state of
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affairs thank you something to mention
775
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:38,110
that for me for me personally so within
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00:31:34,450 --> 00:31:39,519
the BMA and one of the most valuable
777
00:31:38,109 --> 00:31:41,288
lessons that we learn and one the most
778
00:31:39,519 --> 00:31:43,869
uplifting things was the opportunity to
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00:31:41,288 --> 00:31:47,019
build links with other unions so it was
780
00:31:43,869 --> 00:31:49,209
about it was about us you know working
781
00:31:47,019 --> 00:31:51,579
with the hospital cleaners who were also
782
00:31:49,210 --> 00:31:53,490
on strike with the UT with the teachers
783
00:31:51,579 --> 00:31:58,899
and unity who are also striking with the
784
00:31:53,490 --> 00:32:00,819
the NHS student bursaries campaigns it
785
00:31:58,900 --> 00:32:02,470
was really about building those sorts of
786
00:32:00,819 --> 00:32:05,079
links across the board that that's
787
00:32:02,470 --> 00:32:07,419
really what then meant that we were able
788
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to to bring the government back to the
789
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negotiating table but yeah I was an
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awful lot to say about that whole thank
791
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you a former local government employee
792
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and whether for 25 years but previous to
793
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that I worked in private industry so I
794
00:32:19,119 --> 00:32:23,288
kind of knew the difference and 25 years
795
00:32:21,730 --> 00:32:25,599
ago it was wonderful to work in local
796
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government you had good trade unions
797
00:32:25,599 --> 00:32:30,339
good equal opportunities local people
798
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employed especially women black women
799
00:32:30,339 --> 00:32:36,730
were working-class and I've seen it seen
800
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it disintegrate and where I've left it
801
00:32:36,730 --> 00:32:43,298
now it's micro managed the trade unions
802
00:32:40,058 --> 00:32:45,250
have been decimated it's really hard
803
00:32:43,298 --> 00:32:47,859
struggle and it's just so sad to see it
804
00:32:45,250 --> 00:32:50,380
all the equal opportunities I see a just
805
00:32:47,859 --> 00:32:52,629
getting weaker weaker well it simply
806
00:32:50,380 --> 00:32:54,220
it's across all industries I does the
807
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public sector private sector was seen
808
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out as well
809
00:32:54,849 --> 00:32:58,149
you know there's been paid freezes
810
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across the private sector for years and
811
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in the steel industry in particular we
812
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haven't had pay raises for the last
813
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three four years and for some of our
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people within the industry of actually
815
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our pay cuts because of the way that
816
00:33:08,048 --> 00:33:12,819
we've restructured and suchlike it seems
817
00:33:10,929 --> 00:33:15,730
to be an attack on the working person
818
00:33:12,819 --> 00:33:18,639
all the way through and it knocks on to
819
00:33:15,730 --> 00:33:20,140
your communities as well fit in the
820
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,580
steel industry reticular we got all this
821
00:33:20,140 --> 00:33:23,799
uncertainty at the moment you know we
822
00:33:21,579 --> 00:33:25,029
got people be then in our industry who
823
00:33:23,798 --> 00:33:27,099
want to move
824
00:33:25,029 --> 00:33:28,629
wanted to get mortgages but a mortgage
825
00:33:27,099 --> 00:33:30,699
company will not touch anybody at the
826
00:33:28,630 --> 00:33:32,920
moment it works with data because of the
827
00:33:30,700 --> 00:33:36,279
uncertainty because we've got the zero
828
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:40,180
hour contracts now which are and really
829
00:33:36,279 --> 00:33:42,819
blackmailing and peace people because if
830
00:33:40,180 --> 00:33:44,980
if you're an agency worker you're not
831
00:33:42,819 --> 00:33:46,000
you know if you say I can turn up for
832
00:33:44,980 --> 00:33:48,849
work today
833
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,440
you know you blackmailed and you're
834
00:33:48,849 --> 00:33:52,419
saying if you don't turn up today then
835
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,430
we're not going to give you any work the
836
00:33:52,420 --> 00:33:57,190
conditions are very bad they don't have
837
00:33:54,430 --> 00:33:59,680
work-life balance and it's really bad
838
00:33:57,190 --> 00:34:01,360
that and these are allowed to carry on
839
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,880
and something really needs to be done
840
00:34:01,359 --> 00:34:06,069
because people are being exploited thank
841
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:10,119
you and gentleman at the back in the red
842
00:34:06,069 --> 00:34:12,969
yeah hi I work for ISS and I'm a union
843
00:34:10,119 --> 00:34:15,880
rep as well and at the moment in our
844
00:34:12,969 --> 00:34:19,480
hospital we are facing reorganization by
845
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:22,750
a private contractor and effects it has
846
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:26,079
on the workers in terms of the reduction
847
00:34:22,750 --> 00:34:29,559
in ours reduction in wages and all
848
00:34:26,079 --> 00:34:33,340
aspects of their shift work is being
849
00:34:29,559 --> 00:34:36,929
decimated and the government is not
850
00:34:33,340 --> 00:34:41,220
doing anything to support the working
851
00:34:36,929 --> 00:34:44,559
person within the workplace in terms of
852
00:34:41,219 --> 00:34:47,769
protection the unions can do as much as
853
00:34:44,559 --> 00:34:49,690
they can but if their power is limited
854
00:34:47,769 --> 00:34:52,418
in terms of how much they do for the
855
00:34:49,690 --> 00:34:56,610
people they are not effective they are
856
00:34:52,418 --> 00:35:01,059
ineffective at the moment we are facing
857
00:34:56,610 --> 00:35:05,370
cuts in all the services which is going
858
00:35:01,059 --> 00:35:09,039
to impact on the local community the
859
00:35:05,369 --> 00:35:13,539
workers the hospital standards as well
860
00:35:09,039 --> 00:35:16,389
but in 10 you know we actually need
861
00:35:13,539 --> 00:35:18,369
somebody to speak up for us yeah I just
862
00:35:16,389 --> 00:35:20,529
wanted to make a point about unions I
863
00:35:18,369 --> 00:35:24,159
was recently made redundant my
864
00:35:20,530 --> 00:35:26,980
organization didn't recognize unions so
865
00:35:24,159 --> 00:35:29,259
it was a difficult process for me to be
866
00:35:26,980 --> 00:35:32,110
made redundant from a job and NACA
867
00:35:29,260 --> 00:35:33,760
confidence but also really faced the
868
00:35:32,110 --> 00:35:37,070
fact that I couldn't afford an
869
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:39,350
employment tribunal and was also warned
870
00:35:37,070 --> 00:35:42,620
various people in and around the
871
00:35:39,349 --> 00:35:45,589
organization that if I had took them to
872
00:35:42,619 --> 00:35:47,359
neeti I've had the grounds to do so it
873
00:35:45,590 --> 00:35:48,110
would cause me some harm for my future
874
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,970
career
875
00:35:48,110 --> 00:35:51,800
the other thing really I was told that
876
00:35:49,969 --> 00:35:55,699
it could take months of my energy and
877
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:57,230
time and just eat me up as an individual
878
00:35:55,699 --> 00:35:59,210
at the same time looking for new work
879
00:35:57,230 --> 00:36:01,519
and looking after my family that it
880
00:35:59,210 --> 00:36:04,070
could be really detrimental to go
881
00:36:01,519 --> 00:36:05,809
through that whole process thank you the
882
00:36:04,070 --> 00:36:08,230
way that that's kind of what I wanted to
883
00:36:05,809 --> 00:36:11,299
talk about is this huge increase in
884
00:36:08,230 --> 00:36:13,880
management bullying for those staff that
885
00:36:11,300 --> 00:36:16,850
in my lighter I've seen that rising
886
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:19,789
honestly and not just in in the private
887
00:36:16,849 --> 00:36:22,369
sector but in the public sector and no
888
00:36:19,789 --> 00:36:24,110
schoolteachers were and an often
889
00:36:22,369 --> 00:36:26,329
concomitant with that is you've got
890
00:36:24,110 --> 00:36:28,579
people at the top who paid astronomical
891
00:36:26,329 --> 00:36:31,429
salaries and it's in their vested
892
00:36:28,579 --> 00:36:33,949
interest to be bullies and I really do
893
00:36:31,429 --> 00:36:36,309
think that needs to be addressed and we
894
00:36:33,949 --> 00:36:40,339
need some representation of staff in
895
00:36:36,309 --> 00:36:42,619
workplaces oh yeah I think there's a
896
00:36:40,340 --> 00:36:44,480
there's another section of erican class
897
00:36:42,619 --> 00:36:46,190
in the public sector it's very often
898
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,800
forgotten about in all this and it's the
899
00:36:46,190 --> 00:36:50,150
Armed Forces and they're subjected to
900
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,730
housing crisis at the moment and their
901
00:36:50,150 --> 00:36:54,170
pay is frozen I believe and they're
902
00:36:52,730 --> 00:36:56,750
subject to redundancies and stuff like
903
00:36:54,170 --> 00:36:58,550
that and they have no unions they have
904
00:36:56,750 --> 00:37:00,559
no unions or they've got to rely on is
905
00:36:58,550 --> 00:37:02,480
the mo D and so the odds aren't good as
906
00:37:00,559 --> 00:37:04,340
a former soldier the mo D's in that
907
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,929
trustworthy so I mean where where'd you
908
00:37:04,340 --> 00:37:08,990
go with them and I think this could be a
909
00:37:05,929 --> 00:37:10,639
strong hand for you Jeremy because as we
910
00:37:08,989 --> 00:37:13,579
know the veteran vote was very important
911
00:37:10,639 --> 00:37:15,109
after 45 that settlement that you know
912
00:37:13,579 --> 00:37:16,849
these are people they do have votes and
913
00:37:15,110 --> 00:37:18,440
they have very little protection and
914
00:37:16,849 --> 00:37:19,969
they also have mental health issues is a
915
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,260
big thing in the military as well but
916
00:37:19,969 --> 00:37:22,519
I'm it's a difficult one to deal with I
917
00:37:21,260 --> 00:37:24,860
know but I'll be interested to hear when
918
00:37:22,519 --> 00:37:27,199
people think about this kind of hidden
919
00:37:24,860 --> 00:37:28,550
section of working people who are out
920
00:37:27,199 --> 00:37:30,609
there and veterans as well once you've
921
00:37:28,550 --> 00:37:32,330
left the services yeah thank you
922
00:37:30,610 --> 00:37:35,360
fundamental to everything we've been
923
00:37:32,329 --> 00:37:38,269
discussing this morning is about rights
924
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:40,490
of representation and rights to have
925
00:37:38,269 --> 00:37:42,409
some effect on our own environment so in
926
00:37:40,489 --> 00:37:43,199
opposition what we've done now is set up
927
00:37:42,409 --> 00:37:46,889
workplace to
928
00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:49,289
20 which is fundamentally about
929
00:37:46,889 --> 00:37:51,629
fulfilling basic international labour
930
00:37:49,289 --> 00:37:53,279
organization convention rights giving
931
00:37:51,630 --> 00:37:55,140
automatic rights of trade union
932
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:57,210
representation whether the union is
933
00:37:55,139 --> 00:37:59,309
recognized in your workplace or not your
934
00:37:57,210 --> 00:38:01,650
right to say I'm a member of unite I'm a
935
00:37:59,309 --> 00:38:04,639
member of unison every union it is I
936
00:38:01,650 --> 00:38:07,559
demand to be represented by that person
937
00:38:04,639 --> 00:38:09,420
counsel employment tribunal fees and the
938
00:38:07,559 --> 00:38:13,369
cost that can be awarded against them
939
00:38:09,420 --> 00:38:15,869
it's a right to justice for all of us
940
00:38:13,369 --> 00:38:19,380
those things are basically important but
941
00:38:15,869 --> 00:38:21,690
it's also looking at exploitation in
942
00:38:19,380 --> 00:38:24,750
lots of ways so zeros contracts are part
943
00:38:21,690 --> 00:38:26,460
of it the deliver rule example sport
944
00:38:24,750 --> 00:38:30,150
direct with and having forced to pay a
945
00:38:26,460 --> 00:38:33,869
million pounds back now in unpaid unpaid
946
00:38:30,150 --> 00:38:36,240
minimum pay wages so is about forcing
947
00:38:33,869 --> 00:38:39,000
changes which have only come where
948
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,979
there's been a union involvement sport
949
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,079
direct was only because you know I took
950
00:38:40,980 --> 00:38:46,349
up the case delivery because he got
951
00:38:43,079 --> 00:38:48,180
together in a union and made some some
952
00:38:46,349 --> 00:38:49,410
progress I realize you know a long way
953
00:38:48,179 --> 00:38:50,879
off what you're trying to achieve but
954
00:38:49,409 --> 00:38:52,889
you have made a lot of progress and
955
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,599
people begin to understand it but it's
956
00:38:52,889 --> 00:38:57,750
also about representation of
957
00:38:54,599 --> 00:38:59,670
self-employed workers there are several
958
00:38:57,750 --> 00:39:03,769
million people in Britain working a
959
00:38:59,670 --> 00:39:06,450
self-employed people some of them are
960
00:39:03,769 --> 00:39:09,059
kind of doing all right many are
961
00:39:06,449 --> 00:39:11,460
actually as badly exploited as people in
962
00:39:09,059 --> 00:39:13,349
work you know whether the company that
963
00:39:11,460 --> 00:39:14,460
they've done work for simply refuses to
964
00:39:13,349 --> 00:39:16,140
pay them and they said what you're going
965
00:39:14,460 --> 00:39:19,500
to do about it the points that are made
966
00:39:16,139 --> 00:39:21,029
about the steel industry fundamentally
967
00:39:19,500 --> 00:39:22,739
if we could have a manufacturing economy
968
00:39:21,030 --> 00:39:25,470
in Britain you've got to have a steel
969
00:39:22,739 --> 00:39:27,598
industry steel is fundamental to
970
00:39:25,469 --> 00:39:29,399
everything it's fundamental to transport
971
00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:31,980
it's fundamental to construction it's
972
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:34,230
fundamental in every way in our society
973
00:39:31,980 --> 00:39:36,449
nothing happens without still being
974
00:39:34,230 --> 00:39:38,099
involved in some way or the other this
975
00:39:36,449 --> 00:39:40,289
building wouldn't exist without steel
976
00:39:38,099 --> 00:39:43,650
girls that hold it up and so on and so
977
00:39:40,289 --> 00:39:47,039
on you know you know all of that so the
978
00:39:43,650 --> 00:39:49,889
future Port Talbot is being decided by
979
00:39:47,039 --> 00:39:52,199
essentially commercial negotiations
980
00:39:49,889 --> 00:39:53,989
between two global corporations
981
00:39:52,199 --> 00:39:57,389
going to decide whether it's tartar or
982
00:39:53,989 --> 00:39:59,459
somebody else that runs the company the
983
00:39:57,389 --> 00:40:03,118
missing element in this was the UK
984
00:39:59,460 --> 00:40:05,309
government until the steel workers made
985
00:40:03,119 --> 00:40:07,200
enough fuss about it there is some
986
00:40:05,309 --> 00:40:09,659
degree of involvement there has to be
987
00:40:07,199 --> 00:40:11,549
either complete or an element of public
988
00:40:09,659 --> 00:40:14,129
ownership in the industry there has to
989
00:40:11,550 --> 00:40:15,539
be an industrial strategy there has to
990
00:40:14,130 --> 00:40:18,030
be a national investment bank
991
00:40:15,539 --> 00:40:20,789
sufficiently funded to invest in
992
00:40:18,030 --> 00:40:23,490
infrastructure across the country roads
993
00:40:20,789 --> 00:40:26,639
railways particularly railways broadband
994
00:40:23,489 --> 00:40:29,069
digital and housing but also being
995
00:40:26,639 --> 00:40:31,259
prepared to invest in new products and
996
00:40:29,070 --> 00:40:33,599
new industries how many great inventions
997
00:40:31,260 --> 00:40:35,880
were made in this country where hedge
998
00:40:33,599 --> 00:40:38,700
funds buy them up and sell them to
999
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:40,410
somewhere else abroad or how many cases
1000
00:40:38,699 --> 00:40:43,019
where there's a small company doing
1001
00:40:40,409 --> 00:40:45,239
quite well developing new products maybe
1002
00:40:43,019 --> 00:40:48,329
a good employer cooperative what else
1003
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,979
cannot access bank capital despite the
1004
00:40:48,329 --> 00:40:51,720
fact that we have generously given the
1005
00:40:49,980 --> 00:40:53,400
bank's three hundred and eighty billion
1006
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:56,519
pounds in quantitative easing
1007
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,869
we're very generous people and they are
1008
00:40:56,519 --> 00:41:00,409
not prepared to invest in those
1009
00:40:57,869 --> 00:41:03,480
industrial products so what I want is a
1010
00:41:00,409 --> 00:41:06,239
national investment bank which will be
1011
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:08,068
prepared to invest in new industries and
1012
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:10,679
development this all sounds incredibly
1013
00:41:08,068 --> 00:41:12,480
revolutionary left-wing only in a
1014
00:41:10,679 --> 00:41:14,879
context we've had 30 years of lectures
1015
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:17,639
of neoliberal economics if this was a
1016
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:19,890
similar meeting in any German State
1017
00:41:17,639 --> 00:41:22,348
people and say well we do all that
1018
00:41:19,889 --> 00:41:24,059
already we're going to just go back to
1019
00:41:22,349 --> 00:41:25,318
our topic out the way that we want to
1020
00:41:24,059 --> 00:41:26,849
cover that we haven't got to you and
1021
00:41:25,318 --> 00:41:29,009
we've already talked about how it links
1022
00:41:26,849 --> 00:41:31,740
you know the question of the Iraq war
1023
00:41:29,010 --> 00:41:33,420
and the voices of the people involved in
1024
00:41:31,739 --> 00:41:35,189
that so can I mean is it okay if I have
1025
00:41:33,420 --> 00:41:37,530
somebody from there just to start us off
1026
00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:39,329
well just speak very briefly about it
1027
00:41:37,530 --> 00:41:41,069
you know I'm I'm personally suffering at
1028
00:41:39,329 --> 00:41:42,900
the moment with PTSD since coming home
1029
00:41:41,068 --> 00:41:44,940
from Iraq and I don't honestly know
1030
00:41:42,900 --> 00:41:46,380
what's worse being shelled by people
1031
00:41:44,940 --> 00:41:48,599
that I don't know I've got no problems
1032
00:41:46,380 --> 00:41:50,550
with war having to deal every day with a
1033
00:41:48,599 --> 00:41:52,559
weakened NHS they do want to help but
1034
00:41:50,550 --> 00:41:54,390
they have no money to do so you know
1035
00:41:52,559 --> 00:41:56,519
I've seen several friends die you know
1036
00:41:54,389 --> 00:41:59,338
from overdoses and things like that's
1037
00:41:56,519 --> 00:42:00,960
it's coming out it's absolutely awful I
1038
00:41:59,338 --> 00:42:02,460
don't know what we did there you know I
1039
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,619
feel like my mental health was swapped
1040
00:42:02,460 --> 00:42:05,699
for a few barrels of oil and that
1041
00:42:04,619 --> 00:42:08,548
you know it's quite a hard pill to
1042
00:42:05,699 --> 00:42:10,438
swallow I don't see the government
1043
00:42:08,548 --> 00:42:12,119
wanting to make any changes you know
1044
00:42:10,438 --> 00:42:13,768
we've got air strikes in Syria we're
1045
00:42:12,119 --> 00:42:15,180
dealing with Saudi Arabia but I have to
1046
00:42:13,768 --> 00:42:16,768
wait an hour enough sorry a year and a
1047
00:42:15,179 --> 00:42:19,018
half tacacs Esther just a basic
1048
00:42:16,768 --> 00:42:20,278
therapist to talk about my problems you
1049
00:42:19,018 --> 00:42:22,708
know I'd be on the streets if it wasn't
1050
00:42:20,278 --> 00:42:23,938
for my partner Vicki and she's living
1051
00:42:22,708 --> 00:42:25,708
its hell with me and I don't know you
1052
00:42:23,938 --> 00:42:27,568
know I'd like to see Jeremy what you how
1053
00:42:25,708 --> 00:42:28,198
you try and help us in the future if you
1054
00:42:27,568 --> 00:42:30,958
came to power
1055
00:42:28,199 --> 00:42:32,909
I was undiagnosed with PTSD and when I
1056
00:42:30,958 --> 00:42:34,558
came home I like many other people who
1057
00:42:32,909 --> 00:42:36,358
you know I've served we've ended up
1058
00:42:34,559 --> 00:42:38,369
getting into a bit of a fight because I
1059
00:42:36,358 --> 00:42:40,469
was undiagnosed I was sentenced to a
1060
00:42:38,369 --> 00:42:42,298
year and a half in military prison still
1061
00:42:40,469 --> 00:42:47,429
undiagnosed and then discharged from the
1062
00:42:42,298 --> 00:42:49,228
Army and it's its prey but it's been an
1063
00:42:47,429 --> 00:42:51,239
awful experience if I'm if I'm honest
1064
00:42:49,228 --> 00:42:56,669
with you because we felt that it's been
1065
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:58,469
no help do not I mean assist thank you
1066
00:42:56,670 --> 00:43:00,568
very much for sharing that with us other
1067
00:42:58,469 --> 00:43:02,519
people you know this is something that
1068
00:43:00,568 --> 00:43:03,838
you know these these are the people that
1069
00:43:02,518 --> 00:43:05,518
went out and fought that but obviously
1070
00:43:03,838 --> 00:43:08,639
this was a decision was made on our on
1071
00:43:05,518 --> 00:43:10,558
our half off largely against the will of
1072
00:43:08,639 --> 00:43:12,088
the people at the time so I'm sure
1073
00:43:10,559 --> 00:43:14,778
people have got thoughts about this John
1074
00:43:12,088 --> 00:43:16,920
to come in yeah I think the issue of you
1075
00:43:14,778 --> 00:43:18,989
well first of all thank you very much
1076
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:21,568
for sharing I know I think it the issue
1077
00:43:18,989 --> 00:43:24,380
of the Iraq Wars completely fractured
1078
00:43:21,568 --> 00:43:26,998
British society and I think you know
1079
00:43:24,380 --> 00:43:30,209
you're coming from that region my family
1080
00:43:26,998 --> 00:43:33,958
migrated and seeing the effects that our
1081
00:43:30,208 --> 00:43:37,379
foreign policy has on both people here
1082
00:43:33,958 --> 00:43:39,088
at home but also people abroad and the I
1083
00:43:37,380 --> 00:43:41,459
mean often as a society I feel like
1084
00:43:39,088 --> 00:43:44,548
because it's far away we don't see it we
1085
00:43:41,458 --> 00:43:46,739
we we tend not to talk about it and like
1086
00:43:44,548 --> 00:43:48,059
I know my family in our community is
1087
00:43:46,739 --> 00:43:49,949
completely disengaged with the Labour
1088
00:43:48,059 --> 00:43:51,689
Party once once we went in what I
1089
00:43:49,949 --> 00:43:54,150
believe it's not just my you know
1090
00:43:51,688 --> 00:43:57,088
tinkerbell belief but was in a legal war
1091
00:43:54,150 --> 00:43:59,189
that we engaged in that has seen the
1092
00:43:57,088 --> 00:44:01,679
region torn apart now we're seeing a
1093
00:43:59,188 --> 00:44:04,588
refugee crisis that is born out of that
1094
00:44:01,679 --> 00:44:07,949
and it's it's the cumulative effect of
1095
00:44:04,588 --> 00:44:10,409
what we do and you know we have we have
1096
00:44:07,949 --> 00:44:12,119
modern Iraq war crisis going on now the
1097
00:44:10,409 --> 00:44:15,569
question of Syria the question of
1098
00:44:12,119 --> 00:44:17,309
Palestine that's still gone up you know
1099
00:44:15,570 --> 00:44:21,150
we still have fundamental problems but
1100
00:44:17,309 --> 00:44:22,440
then I think I mean I think we have to
1101
00:44:21,150 --> 00:44:23,579
take the issues of foreign policy very
1102
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,800
very seriously and see that they have
1103
00:44:23,579 --> 00:44:30,059
very very limp axe back at home but also
1104
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:32,310
that our our moral guidelines should
1105
00:44:30,059 --> 00:44:34,139
extend beyond our borders the fact that
1106
00:44:32,309 --> 00:44:36,090
you know over a million people have died
1107
00:44:34,139 --> 00:44:38,429
in Iraq following what was an illegal
1108
00:44:36,090 --> 00:44:41,160
war you know the politics that we have
1109
00:44:38,429 --> 00:44:42,299
should extend beyond our borders and
1110
00:44:41,159 --> 00:44:44,699
what is the British channel you know
1111
00:44:42,300 --> 00:44:47,460
like and I think it's something that's
1112
00:44:44,699 --> 00:44:49,379
fractured society altogether yes I was
1113
00:44:47,460 --> 00:44:52,590
in the brims of a brilliantly devised
1114
00:44:49,380 --> 00:44:54,450
war in Afghanistan I saw no Dan from the
1115
00:44:52,590 --> 00:44:54,840
military as well I just wanted to I
1116
00:44:54,449 --> 00:44:57,960
remember
1117
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:59,550
it struck me during the or the brexit
1118
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,440
staff is always stuff but all the right
1119
00:44:59,550 --> 00:45:03,390
what kind of lease like made out the EU
1120
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,610
is kind of like Spectre in James Bond
1121
00:45:03,389 --> 00:45:06,599
analogies it was all about sovereignty
1122
00:45:05,610 --> 00:45:08,610
and stuff like that but it was never
1123
00:45:06,599 --> 00:45:10,079
discussed there's this other if you're
1124
00:45:08,610 --> 00:45:11,250
really worried about sovereignty and my
1125
00:45:10,079 --> 00:45:12,299
lesson the lesson I learned is the
1126
00:45:11,250 --> 00:45:14,190
soldiers you have to think about the
1127
00:45:12,300 --> 00:45:15,600
other side of the Atlantic there's a
1128
00:45:14,190 --> 00:45:17,389
relationship there and I know Jeremy's
1129
00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:20,279
of shared platforms with Jeremy's bit
1130
00:45:17,389 --> 00:45:21,269
opposed those wars and the way we hang
1131
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,490
on to American foreign policy
1132
00:45:21,269 --> 00:45:25,050
brilliantly obvious but I think there's
1133
00:45:23,489 --> 00:45:27,179
a serious discussion if we are worried
1134
00:45:25,050 --> 00:45:28,980
about sovereignty I mean there are no EU
1135
00:45:27,179 --> 00:45:31,379
there were never any EU bases on British
1136
00:45:28,980 --> 00:45:33,599
soil there are American ones the EU
1137
00:45:31,380 --> 00:45:35,820
never drags into Iraq and then
1138
00:45:33,599 --> 00:45:38,489
Afghanistan and then Iraq again and
1139
00:45:35,820 --> 00:45:40,230
Libya and Syria so I think that a
1140
00:45:38,489 --> 00:45:42,209
component of a foreign policy going
1141
00:45:40,230 --> 00:45:44,550
forward has to address the special
1142
00:45:42,210 --> 00:45:47,280
relationship with Americans I have now
1143
00:45:44,550 --> 00:45:48,780
no down at ofing dan has any doubt I
1144
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,160
don't think the rest of the 400 people
1145
00:45:48,780 --> 00:45:52,440
in our veterans organization have any
1146
00:45:50,159 --> 00:45:54,929
doubt a lot we were fired for a u.s.
1147
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:56,730
foreign policy nothing to do with with
1148
00:45:54,929 --> 00:45:58,710
with Britain and keeping our streets
1149
00:45:56,730 --> 00:45:59,699
safe by being over air or any of this
1150
00:45:58,710 --> 00:46:01,500
rubbish I think it's important we
1151
00:45:59,699 --> 00:46:06,449
address that relationship with America
1152
00:46:01,500 --> 00:46:08,400
thank you over here I really appreciate
1153
00:46:06,449 --> 00:46:10,829
your point and families and communities
1154
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:13,619
are absolutely devastated I'm so glad
1155
00:46:10,829 --> 00:46:15,929
that you spoke and I think that that is
1156
00:46:13,619 --> 00:46:17,519
one of the reasons that we so welcome
1157
00:46:15,929 --> 00:46:19,710
the new leadership of the Labour Party
1158
00:46:17,519 --> 00:46:21,230
because we think it would be a way to
1159
00:46:19,710 --> 00:46:23,630
deal with that really
1160
00:46:21,230 --> 00:46:26,929
dangerous connection with following us
1161
00:46:23,630 --> 00:46:28,910
US policy and I would just underline to
1162
00:46:26,929 --> 00:46:30,949
pick up your point that you know holes
1163
00:46:28,909 --> 00:46:34,879
so I mean with the pictures of Syria are
1164
00:46:30,949 --> 00:46:38,739
absolutely horrifying that whole whole
1165
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:43,550
whole regions people are being bombed
1166
00:46:38,739 --> 00:46:46,848
killed maimed and those who flee from
1167
00:46:43,550 --> 00:46:48,829
that heard that hell are then treated as
1168
00:46:46,849 --> 00:46:51,260
criminals you know when we get here I
1169
00:46:48,829 --> 00:46:53,480
mean I'm an immigrant myself so I think
1170
00:46:51,260 --> 00:46:56,089
those connections we really need to
1171
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:58,159
build on we all all our societies are
1172
00:46:56,088 --> 00:47:00,559
being devastated by war and we really
1173
00:46:58,159 --> 00:47:03,049
look to Jeremy and John to help to help
1174
00:47:00,559 --> 00:47:05,239
turn that around because we we just we
1175
00:47:03,050 --> 00:47:08,269
cannot live this way my very last point
1176
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:11,659
is that the the stealing of the oil that
1177
00:47:08,269 --> 00:47:13,460
that you know that the Britain the US
1178
00:47:11,659 --> 00:47:16,819
and the corporations are absolutely
1179
00:47:13,460 --> 00:47:19,400
plundering the third world and that
1180
00:47:16,820 --> 00:47:20,960
money is going to the 1% we never see it
1181
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,210
here we you know our services are
1182
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,650
deprived and there's a long history I
1183
00:47:23,210 --> 00:47:28,280
mean we've had five hundred years of
1184
00:47:24,650 --> 00:47:29,480
robbery from Africa India so I mean I
1185
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,099
think as people of color that's
1186
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,780
something that we want to bring to the
1187
00:47:31,099 --> 00:47:34,869
movement my last point although I know
1188
00:47:32,780 --> 00:47:37,130
we're talking about terrible things is
1189
00:47:34,869 --> 00:47:39,050
we're seeing you know in our Women's
1190
00:47:37,130 --> 00:47:40,130
Center there's there's new hope there's
1191
00:47:39,050 --> 00:47:42,769
new energy
1192
00:47:40,130 --> 00:47:44,960
people are coming in excited and wanting
1193
00:47:42,769 --> 00:47:46,309
to work you know on the campaign and I
1194
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,019
think that we also have to keep that in
1195
00:47:46,309 --> 00:47:50,210
mind that there's really hope that we
1196
00:47:48,019 --> 00:47:52,639
haven't seen before so we want to go
1197
00:47:50,210 --> 00:47:53,990
forward in that way so I mean I just
1198
00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:55,848
wanted to follow on really from both of
1199
00:47:53,989 --> 00:47:57,169
those points I mean as as you say if you
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00:47:55,849 --> 00:47:58,640
want to challenge if you're worried
1201
00:47:57,170 --> 00:48:01,220
about sovereignty of the challenge that
1202
00:47:58,639 --> 00:48:02,179
the Washington Consensus that Atlantis
1203
00:48:01,219 --> 00:48:04,578
this relationship you have to challenge
1204
00:48:02,179 --> 00:48:06,139
you know the City of London but and
1205
00:48:04,579 --> 00:48:08,900
that's why you're you're being attacked
1206
00:48:06,139 --> 00:48:14,659
because you represent something that is
1207
00:48:08,900 --> 00:48:16,010
tech fortunately not in this room you
1208
00:48:14,659 --> 00:48:19,118
represent something that is so dangerous
1209
00:48:16,010 --> 00:48:19,119
to those vested in
1210
00:48:20,539 --> 00:48:29,660
they don't like it's not Jeremy sweetie
1211
00:48:27,289 --> 00:48:32,359
and that's what I like somebody who
1212
00:48:29,659 --> 00:48:35,449
knows what's right in this world thank
1213
00:48:32,358 --> 00:48:36,889
you millions why don't ya we'll come
1214
00:48:35,449 --> 00:48:38,358
back to Jeremy so I just wanted to talk
1215
00:48:36,889 --> 00:48:40,278
about homelessness so I started working
1216
00:48:38,358 --> 00:48:44,630
with homeless young people in the heart
1217
00:48:40,278 --> 00:48:46,548
of Houston a day Center in 1998 and
1218
00:48:44,630 --> 00:48:49,338
predominantly then we got many young
1219
00:48:46,548 --> 00:48:51,068
people from around the country for Milan
1220
00:48:49,338 --> 00:48:54,078
Scotland places like this from the North
1221
00:48:51,068 --> 00:48:55,759
young people who typically became homes
1222
00:48:54,079 --> 00:48:58,219
because they escaped and neglect abuse
1223
00:48:55,759 --> 00:48:59,539
and these type situations some people
1224
00:48:58,219 --> 00:49:03,199
that wanted to come and just you know
1225
00:48:59,539 --> 00:49:05,599
come to the big city and get a job we've
1226
00:49:03,199 --> 00:49:08,358
always had part of our homeless
1227
00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:10,640
population being veterans now I
1228
00:49:08,358 --> 00:49:13,058
volunteer with in different
1229
00:49:10,639 --> 00:49:15,739
organizations including food banks and
1230
00:49:13,059 --> 00:49:17,719
walking around Camden my borough and
1231
00:49:15,739 --> 00:49:19,639
different boroughs the increase in
1232
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,619
homelessness is back
1233
00:49:19,639 --> 00:49:23,688
I saw a man begging on the street and he
1234
00:49:21,619 --> 00:49:26,989
looked malnourished and on the verge of
1235
00:49:23,688 --> 00:49:28,808
dying and most people and I watched 10
1236
00:49:26,989 --> 00:49:31,400
minutes most people he was invisible
1237
00:49:28,809 --> 00:49:34,729
completely - and I had a conversation
1238
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:37,130
with the cab driver today and he felt
1239
00:49:34,728 --> 00:49:38,958
that people were homeless because they
1240
00:49:37,130 --> 00:49:41,209
weren't strong enough and this is the
1241
00:49:38,958 --> 00:49:44,358
perception that they failed at life
1242
00:49:41,208 --> 00:49:46,219
they're not good enough somehow they
1243
00:49:44,358 --> 00:49:48,558
just couldn't get it together it's their
1244
00:49:46,219 --> 00:49:50,318
fault and actually it's not true and now
1245
00:49:48,559 --> 00:49:52,759
we're seeing a steep increase in
1246
00:49:50,318 --> 00:49:55,778
homelessness and much of it has to do
1247
00:49:52,759 --> 00:49:57,318
with them people's attitudes towards
1248
00:49:55,778 --> 00:50:00,168
homelessness I mean many people
1249
00:49:57,318 --> 00:50:01,699
unfortunately had this path laid out for
1250
00:50:00,168 --> 00:50:03,828
them they're brought up in areas of
1251
00:50:01,699 --> 00:50:05,959
deprivation in towns where there's no
1252
00:50:03,829 --> 00:50:08,239
longer industries anymore and again
1253
00:50:05,958 --> 00:50:10,548
because of the abuse that they ignore
1254
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:13,969
many of them disproportionately receive
1255
00:50:10,548 --> 00:50:16,159
at home can we just say that this is a
1256
00:50:13,969 --> 00:50:18,048
really very valuable and very good
1257
00:50:16,159 --> 00:50:19,140
discussion far better than any focus
1258
00:50:18,048 --> 00:50:22,259
group I've ever been
1259
00:50:19,139 --> 00:50:25,009
of dim and we'll have to work out how we
1260
00:50:22,260 --> 00:50:28,590
do it but it's got to be some way that
1261
00:50:25,010 --> 00:50:30,660
not exactly random but groups like
1262
00:50:28,590 --> 00:50:32,430
ourselves can be brought together to
1263
00:50:30,659 --> 00:50:34,500
continue this kind of discussion and
1264
00:50:32,429 --> 00:50:36,269
debate because political change only
1265
00:50:34,500 --> 00:50:38,880
comes about when a lot of people
1266
00:50:36,269 --> 00:50:40,920
mobilize together to achieve it and that
1267
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,840
it's obviously fundamental to everything
1268
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,490
that we're talking about believing so
1269
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,829
whilst we one-level we're talking about
1270
00:50:44,489 --> 00:50:50,269
a series of policy issues mental health
1271
00:50:46,829 --> 00:50:54,059
housing health education war and peace
1272
00:50:50,269 --> 00:50:56,190
environment so on it's also about a
1273
00:50:54,059 --> 00:50:59,719
level of consciousness and understanding
1274
00:50:56,190 --> 00:51:02,280
and while social media is a great way of
1275
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:05,269
instantly and rapidly communicating with
1276
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:08,610
people it often can be superficial and
1277
00:51:05,269 --> 00:51:09,929
cannot go into the sort of life
1278
00:51:08,610 --> 00:51:11,940
experiences that we're talking about
1279
00:51:09,929 --> 00:51:13,949
here they help to form our opinions and
1280
00:51:11,940 --> 00:51:15,659
so I'm not quite sure how it can be done
1281
00:51:13,949 --> 00:51:17,159
but let's work out ways of doing it cuz
1282
00:51:15,659 --> 00:51:19,469
I want the sort of thing to carry on I'm
1283
00:51:17,159 --> 00:51:23,239
sure you will I hope you all do as well
1284
00:51:19,469 --> 00:51:29,129
on the the issue has been raised over
1285
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:32,579
Iraq think back to the Gulf War of 1990
1286
00:51:29,130 --> 00:51:34,920
1991 there was an enormous use of
1287
00:51:32,579 --> 00:51:40,049
depleted uranium in southern Iraq after
1288
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:43,650
the the troops went into southern Iraq
1289
00:51:40,050 --> 00:51:46,350
after Kuwait and that led to camia's
1290
00:51:43,650 --> 00:51:49,829
cancers and a health crisis all over
1291
00:51:46,349 --> 00:51:52,739
southern Iraq and led to 10 years of
1292
00:51:49,829 --> 00:51:55,049
sanctions on Iraq which didn't have much
1293
00:51:52,739 --> 00:51:56,879
effect whatsoever on the regime but had
1294
00:51:55,050 --> 00:51:58,470
a massive effect on the people of the of
1295
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:01,610
the whole country the effect of the
1296
00:51:58,469 --> 00:52:05,789
regime was actually pretty minimal and
1297
00:52:01,610 --> 00:52:08,160
Britain was happily selling arms to Iraq
1298
00:52:05,789 --> 00:52:10,409
up until the late 1980s and I remember
1299
00:52:08,159 --> 00:52:12,149
being roundly abused by people in
1300
00:52:10,409 --> 00:52:14,789
Parliament for questioning the arms
1301
00:52:12,150 --> 00:52:16,200
sales strategy to sell I was saying and
1302
00:52:14,789 --> 00:52:17,670
they said well you've gotta sell arms or
1303
00:52:16,199 --> 00:52:19,439
everywhere ever anybody wants to buy
1304
00:52:17,670 --> 00:52:22,380
them and I said well sometimes these
1305
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:24,030
things come back to bite you is it what
1306
00:52:22,380 --> 00:52:26,099
would you know about it I said well just
1307
00:52:24,030 --> 00:52:27,690
an innocent person just making an
1308
00:52:26,099 --> 00:52:30,900
observation
1309
00:52:27,690 --> 00:52:35,460
then we go into the build-up to the Iraq
1310
00:52:30,900 --> 00:52:39,150
war in 2003 and I remember a meeting a
1311
00:52:35,460 --> 00:52:41,639
group of Labour MPs had we Tony Blair we
1312
00:52:39,150 --> 00:52:46,349
sat around a table we went through all
1313
00:52:41,639 --> 00:52:51,440
the arguments several times and I just
1314
00:52:46,349 --> 00:52:54,059
said look Tony why are we doing this and
1315
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:56,070
he slapped his hand on the table he said
1316
00:52:54,059 --> 00:53:01,980
we're doing it because it's the right
1317
00:52:56,070 --> 00:53:04,500
thing to do there's no analysis there
1318
00:53:01,980 --> 00:53:09,780
was no credible explanation of anything
1319
00:53:04,500 --> 00:53:11,820
so it went into Iraq we lost soldiers
1320
00:53:09,780 --> 00:53:14,970
the Americans lost soldiers the Iraqis
1321
00:53:11,820 --> 00:53:17,490
lost soldiers civilians died and it's
1322
00:53:14,969 --> 00:53:20,189
led to one war after another after
1323
00:53:17,489 --> 00:53:22,829
another after another it was a seminal
1324
00:53:20,190 --> 00:53:26,010
turning point in British politics and I
1325
00:53:22,829 --> 00:53:28,889
pledged last year that we would make an
1326
00:53:26,010 --> 00:53:31,560
apology for Iraq we did so along the
1327
00:53:28,889 --> 00:53:35,099
Chilcott report came out and I just felt
1328
00:53:31,559 --> 00:53:37,650
this horror but people like yourself
1329
00:53:35,099 --> 00:53:39,779
that suffered in Iraq those that died in
1330
00:53:37,650 --> 00:53:42,599
Iraq people then said well what was it
1331
00:53:39,780 --> 00:53:44,790
all for what was it all for there has to
1332
00:53:42,599 --> 00:53:50,719
be a change in attitude on foreign
1333
00:53:44,789 --> 00:53:53,639
policy it's too easy to build up kind of
1334
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:55,769
patriotic fervor and say we're going to
1335
00:53:53,639 --> 00:53:57,869
go in there and sort it out it's very
1336
00:53:55,769 --> 00:53:59,849
easy to vote to send somebody else's son
1337
00:53:57,869 --> 00:54:02,489
or daughter off to a place of danger
1338
00:53:59,849 --> 00:54:07,380
when you're not doing it yourself and so
1339
00:54:02,489 --> 00:54:09,869
I well I've spent my life on opposing
1340
00:54:07,380 --> 00:54:11,910
these things and want to see foreign
1341
00:54:09,869 --> 00:54:13,829
policy based on peace based on democracy
1342
00:54:11,909 --> 00:54:18,599
based on human rights and based on
1343
00:54:13,829 --> 00:54:20,190
justice and in the with us Tyrael things
1344
00:54:18,599 --> 00:54:21,989
that we may well be appointing in the
1345
00:54:20,190 --> 00:54:23,490
future let's have a minister for
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disarmament and a minister
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Pease as well who is pursuing those
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things around the world and looking to
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enforce the non-proliferation treaty
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rather than pretending it's an obstacle
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to rearmament
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it's a question of attitude the refugee
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crisis around the world now is the
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biggest it's ever been in recorded
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history there's more displaced people
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around the world there's any time in
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recorded human history and there are
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lots of reasons environmental human
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rights Wars lots and lots of reasons why
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people are refugees and the numbers of
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refugees that go into the poorest
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countries is very high India took a lot
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of refugees from Sri Lanka Mexico took a
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lot of refugees and Guatemala during the
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Central American wars there are large
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numbers of refugees in different African
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countries because of the war in the
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Congo and then likewise now with the
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very large number of refugees in Libya
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or in Jordan or in Greece or in Turkey
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we have to deal with it by a political
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solution in Syria demanding an urgent
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ceasefire and bringing about a political
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solution in Syria we also have to
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recognize that the humanitarian crisis
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requires a humanitarian response you
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know to solve the refugee crisis with
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barbed wire tear gas and electronic
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surveillance
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you only can solve it with humanitarian
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approach as many other ices been raised
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this morning it is about how we do our
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politics how people educate themselves
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and inform themselves and how they can
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come together around a strategy which is
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about social justice is about inequality
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is about investment is about a growing
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opportunities for young people rather
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than leaving them debt ridden and
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finding difficulty in getting jobs we're
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not alone in this a lot of young people
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in the United States and older in the
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United States having exactly the same
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kind discussion we're having now
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likewise all across Europe maybe the
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worm is turning on the neoliberal agenda
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that was set down by Reagan and Thatcher
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in the 1970s and so they see
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historical justice time thanks very much
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[Applause]
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29th we were announce that we were up
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for sale on March the 30th Jeremy Corbyn
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broke away from his holiday in devon and
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came and supported the still workers in
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port talbot and the industry no
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politician has been supports over I met
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Jeremy I don't know if he remembers on a
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street at Westminster and I was
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screaming and going crazy because I've
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been fighting for the student nurses
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bursaries and you stopped to speak to me
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and you gave me the time of day and you
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listened to me and nobody else has
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listened to me nobody else would step on
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the street and talk to me about
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something and you're the only person
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that's done that and you listen you
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really really listen to things that we
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say to you I honestly think that Jeremy
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Corbyn represents truth in politics
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today and I don't think we see this
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anywhere else and I think that is why
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the force of the attack from wherever is
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so strong and I think if we want truth
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and we want honesty then I think this is
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the man to vote for not we don't have
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anybody who voices our concerns
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apart from Jeremy thank you and I
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believe that's the man for the people
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for the first time in my life I've got
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hope and our political system and I've
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got hope that you know twelve months ago
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we were able to achieve something that
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was impossible and we can't take a step
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back now and I think Jeremy John and
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this kind of politics give young people
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like me who have been marginalized
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forever hope again huge percentage of
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people out there now we don't vote in
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general elections they're totally
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disillusioned with with the political
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system they're totally disillusioned
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with politicians they've seen I think
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Jeremy's the type of person who could
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galvanize those people back to the
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ballot box and hopefully vote for a
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future government that cares a bit more
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and Jeremy and John have stood alongside
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me and just other disabled people as
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we've been attacked again and again by
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New Labour and by the
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last two conservative governments and
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that's why I am supporting Jeremy it
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gives us hope but also just on the
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environment it's always been at the
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heart of Jeremy's policies been out in
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Paris at the climate negotiations
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outfits and flood victims understands
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the need to invest in renewables in
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order to move us away from fossil fuels
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and start a green industry and also
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understands it as a social justice issue
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and how it does impact the poorest
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people and how it will impact the
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refugee crisis I just say something from
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a queer and LGBT perspective that you've
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been a you know in solidarity with with
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our community your entire political
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career and it's been really great to see
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the hashtag lasers for Jessa
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