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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,576 --> 00:00:13,396 [suspenseful music] 2 00:00:13,448 --> 00:00:14,618 - I see dead people. 3 00:00:14,666 --> 00:00:17,536 ♪ 4 00:00:17,582 --> 00:00:20,932 - The one monster that's in every culture, 5 00:00:20,977 --> 00:00:23,277 no matter how sophisticated or primitive 6 00:00:23,327 --> 00:00:24,937 all around the world, and that's ghosts. 7 00:00:24,981 --> 00:00:26,981 - Do you believe in ghosts? 8 00:00:27,027 --> 00:00:28,417 - [roaring, groans] 9 00:00:28,463 --> 00:00:30,253 - With "Poltergeist," what you get is, 10 00:00:30,291 --> 00:00:32,771 you get the most thoughtful, 11 00:00:32,815 --> 00:00:34,815 most thought-out, 12 00:00:34,860 --> 00:00:38,650 most fun haunted house movie that's ever been made. 13 00:00:38,690 --> 00:00:39,950 ♪ 14 00:00:39,996 --> 00:00:43,086 - "The Shining." 15 00:00:43,130 --> 00:00:45,130 I mean, that is the ultimate ghost story, is "The Shining." 16 00:00:45,175 --> 00:00:47,785 - Here's Johnny. - [gasps] 17 00:00:47,830 --> 00:00:49,570 - I was struck most viscerally 18 00:00:49,614 --> 00:00:51,754 by the performance of Jack Nicholson. 19 00:00:51,790 --> 00:00:53,270 - I'm not gonna hurt you. 20 00:00:53,314 --> 00:00:55,664 I'm just gonna bash your brains. 21 00:00:55,707 --> 00:00:57,317 ♪ 22 00:00:57,361 --> 00:00:58,841 - Ah! 23 00:00:58,884 --> 00:01:00,414 - "The Sixth Sense" is masterful 24 00:01:00,451 --> 00:01:02,761 in that it really plays with the ghost story 25 00:01:02,801 --> 00:01:04,981 in a very new way. - Ah! 26 00:01:05,021 --> 00:01:07,111 - He sees ghosts and spirits. 27 00:01:07,154 --> 00:01:08,814 Stop looking at me. 28 00:01:08,851 --> 00:01:11,421 People walking around in their day-to-day life. 29 00:01:11,462 --> 00:01:13,732 [crashing] 30 00:01:13,769 --> 00:01:18,299 - What "Insidious" has brought to the genre is a humanity 31 00:01:18,339 --> 00:01:20,119 which I'm not sure has been in many 32 00:01:20,167 --> 00:01:22,427 of the spooky movies we've seen. 33 00:01:22,473 --> 00:01:25,003 ♪ 34 00:01:25,041 --> 00:01:27,301 - "The Ring" was one of those movies 35 00:01:27,348 --> 00:01:29,828 that had so many disturbing images... 36 00:01:29,872 --> 00:01:31,222 ♪ 37 00:01:31,265 --> 00:01:33,265 ...that I could not sleep 38 00:01:33,310 --> 00:01:36,570 for days after I saw that movie. 39 00:01:36,618 --> 00:01:39,578 [gunshot] 40 00:01:39,621 --> 00:01:41,491 - Ghost stories are always about the way 41 00:01:41,536 --> 00:01:44,316 the past casts its long shadow on the present. 42 00:01:44,365 --> 00:01:46,145 - [shrieks] 43 00:01:46,193 --> 00:01:48,893 - They make us question, is there something else? 44 00:01:48,934 --> 00:01:52,164 Am I gonna wind up in limbo? Am I gonna wind up in heaven? 45 00:01:52,199 --> 00:01:54,419 Or hell? 46 00:01:54,462 --> 00:01:57,942 ♪ 47 00:01:57,987 --> 00:01:59,987 - Totally getting goose bumps talking about this. 48 00:02:00,032 --> 00:02:01,342 - [screams] 49 00:02:01,382 --> 00:02:03,992 [spooky music] 50 00:02:04,036 --> 00:02:10,776 ♪ 51 00:02:15,874 --> 00:02:20,274 ♪ 52 00:02:20,314 --> 00:02:21,624 [chainsaw revs] 53 00:02:21,663 --> 00:02:25,583 ♪ 54 00:02:28,887 --> 00:02:30,627 [ominous music] 55 00:02:30,672 --> 00:02:32,022 - It's coming toward us. 56 00:02:32,064 --> 00:02:34,464 - Vampires, werewolves, zombies. 57 00:02:34,502 --> 00:02:37,372 People don't really believe that stuff is real. 58 00:02:37,418 --> 00:02:41,248 But ghosts, you ask 99% of the people, 59 00:02:41,291 --> 00:02:43,861 they're like 100% certain that they have seen a ghost. 60 00:02:43,902 --> 00:02:45,642 - [screams] 61 00:02:45,687 --> 00:02:47,727 - That there are ghosts, that they experienced ghosts. 62 00:02:47,776 --> 00:02:50,166 There are ghosts in the house. 63 00:02:50,213 --> 00:02:52,003 - Oh! 64 00:02:52,041 --> 00:02:54,911 - I mean, the ghost subgenre-- I mean, I think that's why 65 00:02:54,957 --> 00:02:56,997 it just--it literally never dies. 66 00:02:57,046 --> 00:02:58,786 ♪ 67 00:02:58,830 --> 00:03:00,480 Ghost movies have been with us 68 00:03:00,528 --> 00:03:02,528 since the dawn of cinema. 69 00:03:02,573 --> 00:03:05,793 The first horror film, "La Manoir du Diable," 70 00:03:05,837 --> 00:03:09,927 from 1896, was a ghost story. 71 00:03:09,972 --> 00:03:14,762 But until the 1980s, spirits were rarely seen onscreen. 72 00:03:14,803 --> 00:03:17,763 And if they were, they were rarely convincing. 73 00:03:17,806 --> 00:03:20,766 That all changed with "Poltergeist." 74 00:03:20,809 --> 00:03:24,249 - They're here. 75 00:03:24,291 --> 00:03:27,861 - Well, "Poltergeist" was one of the first scary movies 76 00:03:27,903 --> 00:03:30,173 that I can remember seeing as a kid. 77 00:03:30,210 --> 00:03:32,340 I was truly terrified by that movie 78 00:03:32,386 --> 00:03:37,036 and I--I'm still to this day terrified of ghosts. 79 00:03:37,086 --> 00:03:39,696 - I was still a child when I saw it. 80 00:03:39,741 --> 00:03:41,311 I really connected to that story, 81 00:03:41,351 --> 00:03:44,011 the magical of uncertainty 82 00:03:44,049 --> 00:03:47,269 of the afterlife and--and spirits. 83 00:03:47,314 --> 00:03:48,974 ♪ 84 00:03:49,011 --> 00:03:51,271 - "Poltergeist" is a haunted house movie 85 00:03:51,318 --> 00:03:52,928 that took place in the suburbs, 86 00:03:52,971 --> 00:03:55,021 that was in the least scary place possible. 87 00:03:55,060 --> 00:03:56,800 - I'm out of here. - Bye. 88 00:03:56,845 --> 00:03:59,755 - The family lives in the San Fernando Valley, 89 00:03:59,804 --> 00:04:02,154 that gets plagued by spirits 90 00:04:02,198 --> 00:04:06,718 because of the area where they live was built on a graveyard 91 00:04:06,768 --> 00:04:08,808 that is getting back at 'em. 92 00:04:08,857 --> 00:04:11,077 - Don't worry about it. After all, 93 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,640 it's not ancient tribal burial ground, 94 00:04:13,688 --> 00:04:15,598 it's just... people. 95 00:04:15,646 --> 00:04:18,736 - "Poltergeist" is a really fascinating one for me. 96 00:04:18,780 --> 00:04:21,170 It's like taking sort of, almost like, 97 00:04:21,217 --> 00:04:23,437 decades of horror filmmaking, 98 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,140 and constructing it into, like, this pure rollercoaster. 99 00:04:27,179 --> 00:04:29,269 - No [screams]. - [roars] 100 00:04:29,312 --> 00:04:32,362 - [screams] 101 00:04:32,402 --> 00:04:35,062 - Took the director of "Texas Chainsaw Massacre," 102 00:04:35,100 --> 00:04:37,890 Tobe Hooper, and you took Steven Spielberg, 103 00:04:37,929 --> 00:04:40,239 the director of "Jaws," "Raiders of the Lost Ark," 104 00:04:40,280 --> 00:04:42,930 that was the biggest horror event 105 00:04:42,978 --> 00:04:44,678 of my childhood, that movie. 106 00:04:44,719 --> 00:04:46,459 - And this stuff all works as long as the audience 107 00:04:46,503 --> 00:04:48,683 can find some logic for it. 108 00:04:48,723 --> 00:04:52,683 - Steven just brings this enthusiasm and this energy 109 00:04:52,727 --> 00:04:54,377 to the thing. 110 00:04:54,424 --> 00:04:57,124 And then Tobe is, like, figuring out the logistics 111 00:04:57,166 --> 00:05:01,036 and--and how the shot's gonna look and all of that. 112 00:05:01,083 --> 00:05:03,693 - What happens to that family is so Tobe. 113 00:05:03,738 --> 00:05:06,608 But that family is definitely more Spielbergian. 114 00:05:06,654 --> 00:05:09,664 - Before, after, before, after, before. 115 00:05:09,700 --> 00:05:11,310 - [laughing] Let me see your tuck position. 116 00:05:11,354 --> 00:05:14,314 - The important thing was the kinetic family, 117 00:05:14,357 --> 00:05:17,447 and the cohesiveness, and keeping it light, 118 00:05:17,491 --> 00:05:19,671 until it starts getting heavy. 119 00:05:19,710 --> 00:05:21,710 [ominous music] 120 00:05:21,756 --> 00:05:24,716 - "Poltergeist" is a movie about 121 00:05:24,759 --> 00:05:26,759 the tremendous guilt and shame we feel 122 00:05:26,804 --> 00:05:28,764 about leaving our children in front of the TV, 123 00:05:28,806 --> 00:05:30,366 letting the TV be the babysitter. 124 00:05:30,417 --> 00:05:32,977 We know it's wrong. We do it anyway. 125 00:05:33,028 --> 00:05:36,248 - That scene where the little girl is standing in front 126 00:05:36,292 --> 00:05:38,772 of the, uh--the television, 127 00:05:38,816 --> 00:05:42,206 and it reaches out to molest her. 128 00:05:42,254 --> 00:05:43,874 ♪ 129 00:05:43,908 --> 00:05:46,348 - Kind of a dawning realization that we might be 130 00:05:46,389 --> 00:05:48,779 sacrificing our--our children 131 00:05:48,826 --> 00:05:51,476 in front of, uh, this glowing screen. 132 00:05:51,525 --> 00:05:53,395 ♪ 133 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,360 - I think what Steven and his collaborators predicted 134 00:05:56,399 --> 00:05:59,969 with "Poltergeist" is--is true. 135 00:06:00,011 --> 00:06:02,931 We've all fallen into our television. 136 00:06:02,971 --> 00:06:05,281 - [yelps] - Mommy. 137 00:06:05,321 --> 00:06:07,931 I can't see you, Mommy. 138 00:06:07,976 --> 00:06:09,756 Where are you? 139 00:06:09,804 --> 00:06:12,114 - Their young daughter gets trapped 140 00:06:12,154 --> 00:06:14,114 between this world and the next. 141 00:06:14,156 --> 00:06:17,286 - Your daughter is alive and in this house. 142 00:06:17,333 --> 00:06:18,603 - During the course of the film, 143 00:06:18,639 --> 00:06:21,859 the mother literally goes to hell 144 00:06:21,903 --> 00:06:25,433 to rescue her daughter from the beast. 145 00:06:25,472 --> 00:06:26,732 - [roars] 146 00:06:26,777 --> 00:06:28,647 - [screams] 147 00:06:28,692 --> 00:06:30,742 [whooshing] 148 00:06:30,781 --> 00:06:33,651 [suspenseful music] 149 00:06:33,697 --> 00:06:35,437 ♪ 150 00:06:35,482 --> 00:06:38,922 - Pull. 151 00:06:38,963 --> 00:06:41,103 - Phew! Great. - Real nice. 152 00:06:41,139 --> 00:06:44,399 - The good fortune of "Poltergeist" was that 153 00:06:44,447 --> 00:06:47,147 it did have the budget to allow 154 00:06:47,189 --> 00:06:50,629 the filmmakers to express their imagination on film. 155 00:06:50,671 --> 00:06:52,851 - A spirit coming down the stairs for the first time. 156 00:06:52,890 --> 00:06:55,630 Feeling of the--of the body and the arms coming up. 157 00:06:55,676 --> 00:06:57,496 Just when we begin to see the fingers, 158 00:06:57,547 --> 00:06:59,457 it goes whoosh, 159 00:06:59,506 --> 00:07:03,066 breaks up like blowing a smoke ring apart in the air. 160 00:07:03,118 --> 00:07:06,208 - Anything that Tobe and Steven could think of 161 00:07:06,251 --> 00:07:08,991 that belonged in the movie was in the movie. 162 00:07:09,037 --> 00:07:11,127 ♪ 163 00:07:11,169 --> 00:07:14,389 both: [screaming] 164 00:07:14,434 --> 00:07:17,484 - But there's no CGI in "Poltergeist." 165 00:07:17,524 --> 00:07:19,794 - [whimpering] 166 00:07:19,830 --> 00:07:21,480 [grunts] 167 00:07:21,528 --> 00:07:25,528 God. The face-tearing scene, 168 00:07:25,575 --> 00:07:29,485 that whole sequence you can see the three pieces. 169 00:07:29,536 --> 00:07:32,226 There's me with the little scratches. 170 00:07:32,277 --> 00:07:34,317 [ominous music] 171 00:07:34,366 --> 00:07:38,016 Then there's me with this giant prosthetic on my face 172 00:07:38,066 --> 00:07:41,196 that I pull off and pull strips of it off, 173 00:07:41,243 --> 00:07:44,593 and then there's this really cool dummy 174 00:07:44,638 --> 00:07:46,638 that looks like me, which is actually 175 00:07:46,683 --> 00:07:48,903 this dummy with Steven Spielberg's hands underneath 176 00:07:48,946 --> 00:07:51,776 pulling all this gunk off. 177 00:07:51,819 --> 00:07:53,559 ♪ 178 00:07:53,603 --> 00:07:55,213 When they showed it to me the first time, 179 00:07:55,257 --> 00:07:57,087 I just burst out laughing, and the--the-- 180 00:07:57,128 --> 00:07:58,828 one of the sound designers said, "What's so funny?" 181 00:07:58,869 --> 00:08:01,049 And I said, "Everyone's gonna remember this scene. 182 00:08:01,089 --> 00:08:03,739 "I just pulled my face off and it fell in the sink." 183 00:08:05,441 --> 00:08:08,621 [whooshing] 184 00:08:08,662 --> 00:08:10,142 - [laughs] 185 00:08:10,185 --> 00:08:11,875 - All sorts of different effects. 186 00:08:11,926 --> 00:08:15,356 Opticals, forced perspective sets, 187 00:08:15,407 --> 00:08:18,237 contrazoom when JoBeth Williams is running down the corridor, 188 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,200 and also, brilliant practical effects. 189 00:08:21,239 --> 00:08:23,939 [lighting roars] 190 00:08:23,981 --> 00:08:26,461 - Oh, yeah, boy, that tree. 191 00:08:26,506 --> 00:08:28,286 ♪ 192 00:08:28,333 --> 00:08:31,553 Steven had this image, 'cause when he was a kid, 193 00:08:31,598 --> 00:08:33,598 there was a tree outside his bedroom window 194 00:08:33,643 --> 00:08:34,953 that scared the crap out of him, 195 00:08:34,992 --> 00:08:37,822 and so that tree had to be there. 196 00:08:37,865 --> 00:08:39,945 It was a rubber tree. For some reason, 197 00:08:39,997 --> 00:08:41,957 they put these, like, knobs in there. 198 00:08:41,999 --> 00:08:43,869 These little prickly things. 199 00:08:43,914 --> 00:08:45,924 Well, obviously, the tree, kind of climb up, 200 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,880 and kind of, um, like, 201 00:08:47,918 --> 00:08:50,398 scratching you and pouring rain 202 00:08:50,442 --> 00:08:52,662 and you got the wind machines and the lightning 203 00:08:52,706 --> 00:08:54,446 and--[snorts] 204 00:08:54,490 --> 00:08:56,750 things are going off, and I'm going, Jeez. 205 00:08:56,797 --> 00:08:58,577 - Look out. - My leg! 206 00:08:58,625 --> 00:09:01,055 - For me, the tree coming alive, 207 00:09:01,105 --> 00:09:04,405 uh, was very vivid and visceral, 208 00:09:04,456 --> 00:09:06,626 and so every time I sort of looked out the window, 209 00:09:06,676 --> 00:09:08,896 and the moonlight was just so, 210 00:09:08,939 --> 00:09:11,029 I would constantly picture that tree. 211 00:09:11,072 --> 00:09:14,212 [whooshing] 212 00:09:14,249 --> 00:09:16,379 - I'm still pissed off about the tree. 213 00:09:16,425 --> 00:09:18,335 That tree was the hardest thing to deal with 214 00:09:18,383 --> 00:09:21,043 in the whole movie. 215 00:09:21,082 --> 00:09:22,652 Except for the pool. 216 00:09:22,692 --> 00:09:25,652 - My God. [breathes heavily] 217 00:09:25,695 --> 00:09:29,085 The swimming pool. 218 00:09:29,133 --> 00:09:31,053 Be careful, honey. 219 00:09:31,092 --> 00:09:32,702 - Craig Raiche, the prop guy, 220 00:09:32,746 --> 00:09:35,616 stashed all these skeletons all over the place. 221 00:09:35,662 --> 00:09:37,582 [dramatic musical flourish] 222 00:09:37,620 --> 00:09:41,580 - [screams] 223 00:09:41,624 --> 00:09:43,374 - We did a take and went to Craig and I says, 224 00:09:43,408 --> 00:09:44,888 "Hey, Craig," I s--you know, 225 00:09:44,932 --> 00:09:47,112 "you don't need to make them smell like this." 226 00:09:47,151 --> 00:09:49,371 You know, they--they smelled. 227 00:09:49,414 --> 00:09:52,334 And he says, "Well, they're real." 228 00:09:52,374 --> 00:09:55,644 - [whimpering, panting] 229 00:09:55,682 --> 00:09:57,252 - I mean, it's a joke now, 230 00:09:57,292 --> 00:09:59,032 of something was on an Indian burial ground 231 00:09:59,076 --> 00:10:01,036 and so you know it's gonna be haunted. 232 00:10:01,078 --> 00:10:04,338 And in "Poltergeist," the great line at the end of the movie 233 00:10:04,386 --> 00:10:06,686 is when Craig T. Nelson grabs James Karen 234 00:10:06,736 --> 00:10:08,476 and shakes him and says... 235 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,650 - You son of a bitch, you moved the cemetery 236 00:10:10,697 --> 00:10:12,657 but you left the bodies, didn't you? 237 00:10:12,699 --> 00:10:14,919 You son of the bitch, you left the bodies 238 00:10:14,962 --> 00:10:16,922 and you only moved the headstones! 239 00:10:16,964 --> 00:10:19,714 You only moved the headstones. 240 00:10:19,749 --> 00:10:22,619 - And I think, in a way, that says a lot about America, 241 00:10:22,665 --> 00:10:25,355 that we, uh--we moved the headstones. 242 00:10:25,407 --> 00:10:27,097 But the bodies are still there. 243 00:10:27,148 --> 00:10:30,188 [whooshing] 244 00:10:31,326 --> 00:10:32,886 - The spirit of "Poltergeist" 245 00:10:32,936 --> 00:10:35,456 lives on in the "Insidious" series, 246 00:10:35,504 --> 00:10:39,464 which shows us an afterlife filled with restless souls. 247 00:10:39,508 --> 00:10:41,208 Some friendly. 248 00:10:41,249 --> 00:10:42,859 Some deadly. 249 00:10:42,903 --> 00:10:44,433 [thump, rattling] 250 00:10:47,690 --> 00:10:49,740 - Slow down. 251 00:10:49,779 --> 00:10:51,829 - James Wan's film "Insidious" is a ghost story 252 00:10:51,868 --> 00:10:53,478 for the 21st century. 253 00:10:53,522 --> 00:10:56,482 It delivers shocks, suspense, 254 00:10:56,525 --> 00:10:58,395 and genuine emotion to audiences 255 00:10:58,440 --> 00:10:59,920 that may think they've seen it all. 256 00:10:59,963 --> 00:11:02,233 - [whispering] Give it, give me. 257 00:11:02,270 --> 00:11:04,930 I want it. I want it 258 00:11:04,968 --> 00:11:06,358 [screaming] now! 259 00:11:06,404 --> 00:11:08,234 [baby crying] 260 00:11:08,276 --> 00:11:10,626 [suspenseful music] 261 00:11:10,670 --> 00:11:12,450 - It's a fun thing to mess with, 262 00:11:12,497 --> 00:11:15,757 that suburban domestic bliss that's supposed to exist. 263 00:11:15,805 --> 00:11:17,325 - Can you go wake up Dalton? 264 00:11:17,372 --> 00:11:18,902 - It's a fun thing to get in there 265 00:11:18,939 --> 00:11:21,769 and rip that domestic bliss away from a family. 266 00:11:21,811 --> 00:11:23,731 - Dalton, Dalton. 267 00:11:23,770 --> 00:11:25,290 Dalton. 268 00:11:25,336 --> 00:11:27,336 - There is no brain damage. 269 00:11:27,382 --> 00:11:31,732 - "Insidious" is about a, uh, mother and a father 270 00:11:31,778 --> 00:11:34,038 who lose their child 271 00:11:34,084 --> 00:11:36,744 to a place called "The Further." 272 00:11:36,783 --> 00:11:37,783 [ominous music] 273 00:11:37,827 --> 00:11:39,787 - What does that mean? 274 00:11:39,829 --> 00:11:43,309 - The Further is a world far beyond our own. 275 00:11:43,354 --> 00:11:46,234 It's a dark realm filled with the tortured souls 276 00:11:46,270 --> 00:11:47,970 of the dead. 277 00:11:48,011 --> 00:11:51,711 A place not meant for the living. 278 00:11:51,754 --> 00:11:53,504 - And all these ghosts that are crowding 279 00:11:53,538 --> 00:11:55,978 in this family's house are trying to get into his body. 280 00:11:56,019 --> 00:11:57,369 It's an empty vessel. 281 00:11:57,412 --> 00:12:00,812 - And they do everything in their power 282 00:12:00,850 --> 00:12:02,850 to try and get their child back. 283 00:12:02,896 --> 00:12:05,116 And that's really about what you would do as a parent 284 00:12:05,159 --> 00:12:07,419 if you--if you lost your child, 285 00:12:07,465 --> 00:12:09,025 or if your child got sick. 286 00:12:09,076 --> 00:12:10,556 [baby crying] [dramatic musical flourish] 287 00:12:10,599 --> 00:12:12,859 - [screams] Josh, Josh, Josh, please, come... 288 00:12:12,906 --> 00:12:14,776 - Twenty minutes into the movie, 289 00:12:14,821 --> 00:12:16,471 when just as the audience is saying, 290 00:12:16,518 --> 00:12:19,038 Why on Earth would you not get out of this house, 291 00:12:19,086 --> 00:12:21,776 the, uh--Patrick Wilson says to Rose Byrne's character... 292 00:12:21,828 --> 00:12:23,608 - We're going. 293 00:12:23,655 --> 00:12:26,045 - And they move houses. 294 00:12:26,093 --> 00:12:27,923 [foreboding music] 295 00:12:27,964 --> 00:12:32,194 And the haunting follows them to their next house. 296 00:12:32,229 --> 00:12:33,579 [doors slam] - [gasps] 297 00:12:33,622 --> 00:12:35,972 - [giggling] 298 00:12:36,016 --> 00:12:38,316 - It's not the house that's haunted. 299 00:12:38,366 --> 00:12:40,756 ♪ 300 00:12:40,803 --> 00:12:42,413 It's your son. 301 00:12:42,457 --> 00:12:43,937 ♪ 302 00:12:43,980 --> 00:12:45,460 - So it doesn't matter where they move, 303 00:12:45,503 --> 00:12:46,983 they're gonna be--they're gonna be haunted 304 00:12:47,027 --> 00:12:49,117 no matter where they are. 305 00:12:49,159 --> 00:12:51,769 ♪ 306 00:12:51,814 --> 00:12:53,254 [dramatic thump] 307 00:12:53,294 --> 00:12:55,994 ♪ 308 00:12:56,036 --> 00:12:59,776 - So they call upon my character, Elise Rainier, 309 00:12:59,822 --> 00:13:04,262 who is a known ghost hunter, so to speak. 310 00:13:04,305 --> 00:13:06,955 I think Elise is distinct and unusual in the sense 311 00:13:07,003 --> 00:13:10,313 that, um, I'm not a typical heroine. 312 00:13:10,354 --> 00:13:11,574 ♪ 313 00:13:11,616 --> 00:13:13,266 [dramatic musical flourish] 314 00:13:13,314 --> 00:13:15,274 [suspenseful music] 315 00:13:15,316 --> 00:13:16,746 - [wheezing] 316 00:13:16,796 --> 00:13:18,666 This is how you die. 317 00:13:18,710 --> 00:13:21,410 - Not today it isn't. 318 00:13:21,452 --> 00:13:23,592 [thump] [grunts] 319 00:13:23,628 --> 00:13:25,978 [whooshing] 320 00:13:26,022 --> 00:13:31,852 ♪ 321 00:13:31,898 --> 00:13:34,378 Come on, bitch. 322 00:13:34,422 --> 00:13:36,032 ♪ 323 00:13:36,076 --> 00:13:39,686 What I tried to do was find the places in myself 324 00:13:39,731 --> 00:13:42,691 of empathy, of reception. 325 00:13:42,734 --> 00:13:44,744 Elise is a really good receiver. 326 00:13:44,780 --> 00:13:46,430 She's got a good radio. 327 00:13:46,477 --> 00:13:49,737 We have some help. 328 00:13:49,785 --> 00:13:52,045 - Who? 329 00:13:52,092 --> 00:13:55,272 - Someone else is here with us. 330 00:13:55,312 --> 00:13:59,062 - Mom. 331 00:13:59,099 --> 00:14:01,099 - You know, she's tuned in. And I believe all people 332 00:14:01,144 --> 00:14:02,844 have that ability. 333 00:14:02,885 --> 00:14:06,275 I don't think it--it's just, uh, assigned to a few. 334 00:14:06,323 --> 00:14:08,943 But we're ful-- so full of static 335 00:14:08,978 --> 00:14:12,418 that I think we don't hear very often at all. 336 00:14:12,460 --> 00:14:15,380 We don't hear each other, let alone another world. 337 00:14:15,419 --> 00:14:17,419 [whooshing] 338 00:14:17,465 --> 00:14:22,905 ♪ 339 00:14:22,949 --> 00:14:26,039 - The first "Insidious" score was a really great experience 340 00:14:26,082 --> 00:14:28,822 beca--it was--it was-- it's a very pure, 341 00:14:28,868 --> 00:14:32,088 very raw filmmaking experience all around. 342 00:14:32,132 --> 00:14:34,482 [whooshing] 343 00:14:34,525 --> 00:14:36,085 both: [grunting] 344 00:14:36,136 --> 00:14:38,356 - My friend found this rusted out piano, 345 00:14:38,399 --> 00:14:40,919 and you flick a string, and just this--just-- 346 00:14:40,967 --> 00:14:43,967 eons of just crud come flying off of it. 347 00:14:44,013 --> 00:14:45,933 It had been abandoned in the alley behind his studio 348 00:14:45,972 --> 00:14:47,282 for some time and they dragged it in there 349 00:14:47,321 --> 00:14:49,151 and I got to go in and record on it. 350 00:14:49,192 --> 00:14:50,932 [rusted piano crash] 351 00:14:50,977 --> 00:14:53,717 So that made up a big part of the sound of that film. 352 00:14:53,762 --> 00:14:57,202 ♪ 353 00:14:57,244 --> 00:15:00,124 - We were so thankful when "Insidious" was a hit film 354 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,900 and people really took to it. - [screams] 355 00:15:02,945 --> 00:15:04,635 - Death is the one inevitable thing. 356 00:15:04,686 --> 00:15:06,296 It's coming for all of us. 357 00:15:06,340 --> 00:15:08,860 There's a human need to answer that question 358 00:15:08,908 --> 00:15:10,468 of like after death, and I think 359 00:15:10,518 --> 00:15:13,558 ghost films feed into that. 360 00:15:13,608 --> 00:15:15,348 - There's very little we really know 361 00:15:15,392 --> 00:15:17,482 about the spirit world, if there-- 362 00:15:17,525 --> 00:15:19,175 whether you believe in it or not. 363 00:15:19,222 --> 00:15:21,012 I tend to believe in everything 364 00:15:21,050 --> 00:15:24,180 because I think we know so little about so much. 365 00:15:24,227 --> 00:15:26,747 all: [screaming, groaning] 366 00:15:26,795 --> 00:15:29,315 - [whimpering] 367 00:15:29,363 --> 00:15:30,933 [sheet ripping] 368 00:15:30,973 --> 00:15:32,543 - [gasps] 369 00:15:32,583 --> 00:15:34,503 - The "Insidious" series and "Poltergeist" 370 00:15:34,542 --> 00:15:37,892 showed us normal families bonded by a love 371 00:15:37,937 --> 00:15:41,197 strong enough to survive a supernatural attack. 372 00:15:41,244 --> 00:15:44,994 But one of the greatest film directors of all time, 373 00:15:45,031 --> 00:15:47,991 painted a much darker picture of parenthood 374 00:15:48,034 --> 00:15:49,954 and the afterlife. 375 00:15:54,605 --> 00:15:57,865 - The haunted house is a staple of horror films. 376 00:15:57,913 --> 00:15:59,743 It's usually a sinister mansion 377 00:15:59,784 --> 00:16:01,664 where murders have been committed. 378 00:16:01,699 --> 00:16:03,269 Or about to be committed. 379 00:16:03,310 --> 00:16:06,140 - This house, 380 00:16:06,182 --> 00:16:08,322 it knows we're here. 381 00:16:08,358 --> 00:16:10,708 - Two haunted house movies loom above the rest. 382 00:16:10,752 --> 00:16:12,192 [suspenseful music] 383 00:16:12,232 --> 00:16:14,022 Stanley Kubrick's "The Shining," 384 00:16:14,060 --> 00:16:16,760 and Robert Wise's "The Haunting." 385 00:16:16,801 --> 00:16:18,501 ♪ 386 00:16:18,542 --> 00:16:19,982 - Usually ghost stories work when it's about 387 00:16:20,022 --> 00:16:21,852 what you don't see. 388 00:16:21,893 --> 00:16:24,373 And so that's, in a way, why I probably separated out 389 00:16:24,418 --> 00:16:27,858 what is my absolute favorite horror movie of all time, 390 00:16:27,899 --> 00:16:30,339 um, which is "The Haunting." 391 00:16:30,380 --> 00:16:32,470 - No one who rented Hill House 392 00:16:32,513 --> 00:16:35,043 ever stayed for more than a few days. 393 00:16:35,081 --> 00:16:37,001 - I just think that's the ultimate horror movie. 394 00:16:37,039 --> 00:16:39,999 - The dead are not quiet in Hill House. 395 00:16:40,042 --> 00:16:42,042 ♪ 396 00:16:42,088 --> 00:16:45,048 - "The Haunting" is about a group of people 397 00:16:45,091 --> 00:16:48,491 who are brought together in this old, dark house 398 00:16:48,529 --> 00:16:51,659 to try to find out what's at the root 399 00:16:51,706 --> 00:16:54,356 of supernatural spirits. 400 00:16:54,404 --> 00:16:57,674 - The house is calling you. 401 00:16:57,712 --> 00:16:59,712 - It's also about a woman 402 00:16:59,757 --> 00:17:03,757 who has had a very troubled relationship with her mother, 403 00:17:03,805 --> 00:17:07,845 and who goes away to be a part of this experience. 404 00:17:07,896 --> 00:17:10,896 - Don't let me go. Stay with me. 405 00:17:10,942 --> 00:17:12,812 ♪ 406 00:17:12,857 --> 00:17:15,857 - "The Haunting" works so well because we don't see anything. 407 00:17:15,904 --> 00:17:18,524 - [indistinct speech] 408 00:17:18,559 --> 00:17:20,869 - We don't see the ghosts at work. 409 00:17:20,909 --> 00:17:23,559 We sense, we hear them. 410 00:17:23,607 --> 00:17:26,827 - [indistinct speech] - Are you awake? 411 00:17:26,871 --> 00:17:29,311 Don't say a word, Theo, not a word. 412 00:17:29,352 --> 00:17:31,352 Don't let it know you're in my room. 413 00:17:31,398 --> 00:17:35,008 - We are given complete freedom in our minds 414 00:17:35,054 --> 00:17:37,234 to wander through the house. 415 00:17:37,273 --> 00:17:39,013 - [gasps] 416 00:17:39,058 --> 00:17:41,628 - And it is one of the most terrifying films 417 00:17:41,669 --> 00:17:44,239 because of Wise's instinct 418 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:48,110 to focus on the faces of those being terrified, 419 00:17:48,154 --> 00:17:50,464 because that is what you're relating to 420 00:17:50,504 --> 00:17:52,464 and that is what is informing your emotion, 421 00:17:52,506 --> 00:17:54,246 not the ghosts. 422 00:17:54,290 --> 00:17:56,120 - Oh, God, no. 423 00:17:56,162 --> 00:17:59,562 - The first movie that terrified me to the point 424 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,260 where I could barely look at it was "The Haunting." 425 00:18:02,298 --> 00:18:04,518 I was probably 11 years old, 426 00:18:04,561 --> 00:18:06,561 and you never really see anything 427 00:18:06,607 --> 00:18:08,737 until that woman-- - When that door is pounding. 428 00:18:08,783 --> 00:18:11,093 [door pounding] 429 00:18:11,133 --> 00:18:14,143 - The door kind of bulges. 430 00:18:14,180 --> 00:18:17,310 ♪ 431 00:18:17,357 --> 00:18:20,187 And finally, she's going up this rattly, 432 00:18:20,229 --> 00:18:22,409 unsteady spiral staircase, 433 00:18:22,449 --> 00:18:25,369 and the trap door opens and it's the professor's wife, 434 00:18:25,408 --> 00:18:27,238 and she goes, "Ah!" 435 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,150 - Ah! 436 00:18:30,196 --> 00:18:32,236 - And I'm thinking, I'm dead. [chuckles] 437 00:18:32,285 --> 00:18:34,895 I had a heart attack, I'm never gonna grow up. 438 00:18:34,939 --> 00:18:36,639 ♪ 439 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,640 - Of course, Stephen King did grow up. 440 00:18:39,683 --> 00:18:42,253 And 17 years later, his second novel 441 00:18:42,295 --> 00:18:44,645 "The Shining" was adapted for the screen 442 00:18:44,688 --> 00:18:48,208 by the legendary director Stanley Kubrick. 443 00:18:48,257 --> 00:18:50,737 Like "The Haunting," "The Shining" is about 444 00:18:50,781 --> 00:18:52,741 a bad place. - [screams] 445 00:18:52,783 --> 00:18:54,613 - And the terrible effect it has 446 00:18:54,655 --> 00:18:57,785 on the people who stay there. 447 00:18:57,832 --> 00:19:00,402 Jack Nicholson plays Jack Torrance, 448 00:19:00,443 --> 00:19:04,193 an unstable writer who takes the job of winter caretaker 449 00:19:04,230 --> 00:19:06,410 at the secluded Overlook Hotel. 450 00:19:06,449 --> 00:19:08,059 [heart beating] 451 00:19:08,103 --> 00:19:10,023 - Is there something bad here? 452 00:19:10,061 --> 00:19:13,281 - Well... 453 00:19:13,326 --> 00:19:15,806 you know, Doc, when something happens, 454 00:19:15,850 --> 00:19:19,200 it can leave a trace of itself behind. 455 00:19:19,245 --> 00:19:23,545 Things that people who "shine" can see. 456 00:19:23,597 --> 00:19:27,037 - Jack and his son Danny have a psychic gift. 457 00:19:27,078 --> 00:19:29,908 A shining that lets them see the ghosts 458 00:19:29,951 --> 00:19:32,481 of the murdered people at the Overlook. 459 00:19:32,519 --> 00:19:34,959 Those ghosts terrorize Danny, 460 00:19:34,999 --> 00:19:37,789 while they slowly drive Jack insane. 461 00:19:37,828 --> 00:19:39,828 - [guffaws] 462 00:19:39,874 --> 00:19:41,884 - Jack Torrance, he's an alcoholic. 463 00:19:41,919 --> 00:19:45,449 He doesn't know how to control it. 464 00:19:45,488 --> 00:19:48,538 And he blames his son and his wife 465 00:19:48,578 --> 00:19:50,668 for his artistic impotence. 466 00:19:50,711 --> 00:19:52,761 - Whenever you come in here and interrupt me 467 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,670 you're breaking my concentration. 468 00:19:54,715 --> 00:19:57,715 You're distracting me. And it will then take me time 469 00:19:57,761 --> 00:19:59,891 to get back to where I was. 470 00:19:59,937 --> 00:20:02,027 - There's something about this hotel that just wants 471 00:20:02,070 --> 00:20:05,120 the people who go there to murder each other. 472 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,420 - Come and play with us, Danny. 473 00:20:07,467 --> 00:20:09,817 [ominous music] 474 00:20:09,860 --> 00:20:12,910 Forever. 475 00:20:12,950 --> 00:20:16,080 And ever. 476 00:20:16,127 --> 00:20:18,257 And ever. 477 00:20:18,304 --> 00:20:21,184 - "The Shining" is filled with the kind of iconic scenes 478 00:20:21,220 --> 00:20:24,270 you'd expect from one of history's greatest directors. 479 00:20:24,310 --> 00:20:27,140 But Kubrick made many changes to King's story 480 00:20:27,182 --> 00:20:29,052 that didn't sit well with its author. 481 00:20:29,097 --> 00:20:31,667 - I can enjoy it on the same level that you could enjoy 482 00:20:31,708 --> 00:20:34,188 a beautifully restored Cadillac without a motor in it. 483 00:20:34,233 --> 00:20:35,763 - [laughs] - You know? 484 00:20:35,799 --> 00:20:38,189 My rap about it is there's no character arc. 485 00:20:38,237 --> 00:20:41,367 In the book, Jack Torrance goes from a nice guy 486 00:20:41,414 --> 00:20:45,294 who's trying to get better for his family and for himself. 487 00:20:45,331 --> 00:20:48,511 And I felt like Jack Nicholson 488 00:20:48,551 --> 00:20:51,291 played Jack Torrance as though he were crazy from the-- 489 00:20:51,337 --> 00:20:52,687 - Crazy from minute one. 490 00:20:52,729 --> 00:20:56,119 - That is, uh, quite a story. 491 00:20:56,167 --> 00:20:58,037 - Talking with Mr. Ullman in the office, 492 00:20:58,082 --> 00:21:00,352 and Ullman saying this and that and Jack's going, 493 00:21:00,389 --> 00:21:02,219 "Yes." - [laughs] 494 00:21:02,261 --> 00:21:04,221 - "Absolutely, Mr. Ullman." 495 00:21:04,263 --> 00:21:06,873 - Well, you can rest assured, Mr. Ullman, 496 00:21:06,917 --> 00:21:09,397 that's not gonna happen with me. 497 00:21:09,442 --> 00:21:12,052 - And I also thought that Kubrick had taken 498 00:21:12,096 --> 00:21:14,706 a pretty strong, scary, 499 00:21:14,751 --> 00:21:17,061 suspense, horror novel 500 00:21:17,101 --> 00:21:19,411 and turned it into an art film. 501 00:21:19,452 --> 00:21:21,112 - I think Kubrick was doing-- 502 00:21:21,149 --> 00:21:23,589 was trying to make an anti-horror movie. 503 00:21:23,630 --> 00:21:25,940 He was intentionally going against the grain 504 00:21:25,980 --> 00:21:27,940 of the horror tropes. 505 00:21:27,982 --> 00:21:30,772 You think you know how horror is made, 506 00:21:30,811 --> 00:21:32,901 well, I'm showing you how I do it. 507 00:21:32,943 --> 00:21:35,423 - Counter to convention in "The Shining" 508 00:21:35,468 --> 00:21:38,598 is the brightness of the lighting style. 509 00:21:38,645 --> 00:21:41,385 And he's almost always on really wide lenses. 510 00:21:41,430 --> 00:21:43,390 'Cause he doesn't do that kind of horror, 511 00:21:43,432 --> 00:21:45,432 people don't pop out, you know, 512 00:21:45,478 --> 00:21:48,218 and stab you or whatever. 513 00:21:48,263 --> 00:21:50,223 It's much more psychological, 514 00:21:50,265 --> 00:21:52,565 so it works for what he's doing. 515 00:21:52,615 --> 00:21:54,095 It's even creepier. 516 00:21:54,138 --> 00:21:56,268 [dramatic musical flourish] 517 00:21:56,315 --> 00:21:58,135 - So much of the movie is from the perspective 518 00:21:58,186 --> 00:21:59,446 of whatever character you're with, 519 00:21:59,492 --> 00:22:01,762 so for Danny, it's one thing, 520 00:22:01,798 --> 00:22:04,668 for Jack Nicholson's character it's this sort of unseen menace 521 00:22:04,714 --> 00:22:06,334 that sort of takes him over, and Shelley Duvall, 522 00:22:06,368 --> 00:22:08,198 so she's a-- a ghost story freak, 523 00:22:08,239 --> 00:22:09,939 and it's like, so in her mind 524 00:22:09,980 --> 00:22:12,240 the horror takes on this cheesier form. 525 00:22:12,287 --> 00:22:14,197 And it's like, Oh--it's just, everybo--it's all from 526 00:22:14,245 --> 00:22:17,155 subjective perspective, which just makes it all the creepier. 527 00:22:17,205 --> 00:22:18,375 [tense music] 528 00:22:18,424 --> 00:22:20,824 - Family is a great source 529 00:22:20,861 --> 00:22:22,781 for horror storytelling 530 00:22:22,819 --> 00:22:24,389 because family is very intimate, 531 00:22:24,430 --> 00:22:26,740 family is very close to us, 532 00:22:26,780 --> 00:22:30,390 and family is very dangerous, if you're in the wrong family. 533 00:22:30,436 --> 00:22:32,606 - Here's Johnny. - [gasps] 534 00:22:32,655 --> 00:22:35,655 - The Overlook Hotel and this trauma-filled family, 535 00:22:35,702 --> 00:22:38,182 they just go together so well. 536 00:22:38,226 --> 00:22:41,746 It's a perfect location for them to fall apart. 537 00:22:41,795 --> 00:22:44,055 - Danny! 538 00:22:44,101 --> 00:22:46,541 - And that's often the case in--in haunted house movies, 539 00:22:46,582 --> 00:22:48,722 in movies about ghosts. People who are traumatized 540 00:22:48,758 --> 00:22:50,278 end up there for one reason or another, 541 00:22:50,325 --> 00:22:52,675 and the house is just like, Yes. 542 00:22:52,719 --> 00:22:56,809 This is a person that's ready to be affected and impacted 543 00:22:56,853 --> 00:22:59,163 by unspoken darkness. 544 00:22:59,203 --> 00:23:01,293 - "The Shining" featured a boy who could see 545 00:23:01,336 --> 00:23:03,816 the malevolent spirits of the dead. 546 00:23:03,860 --> 00:23:06,120 Two decades later, "The Sixth Sense" 547 00:23:06,167 --> 00:23:09,867 told the story of another haunted child. 548 00:23:09,910 --> 00:23:13,040 This time by ghosts who were desperate for help. 549 00:23:13,087 --> 00:23:14,257 [dramatic musical flourish] 550 00:23:14,305 --> 00:23:15,605 - [gagging] 551 00:23:19,441 --> 00:23:22,101 - [whispering] I see dead people. 552 00:23:22,139 --> 00:23:25,449 - Dead people, like, in graves? In coffins? 553 00:23:25,491 --> 00:23:26,971 [tense music] 554 00:23:27,014 --> 00:23:30,104 - Walking around like regular people. 555 00:23:30,147 --> 00:23:32,237 - There are many different ways that you can tell a story 556 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:33,980 within the context of a horror movie. 557 00:23:34,021 --> 00:23:36,281 And there's high-brow and low-brow, like, you know, 558 00:23:36,327 --> 00:23:39,457 there are many colors to the spectrum of horror. 559 00:23:39,505 --> 00:23:42,505 - Cole, you're scaring me. 560 00:23:42,551 --> 00:23:45,551 - They scare me too sometimes. 561 00:23:45,598 --> 00:23:47,118 - They? 562 00:23:47,164 --> 00:23:49,694 [suspenseful music] 563 00:23:49,732 --> 00:23:50,952 ♪ 564 00:23:50,994 --> 00:23:53,344 - Ghosts. 565 00:23:53,388 --> 00:23:54,908 - Supernatural thriller. 566 00:23:54,955 --> 00:23:56,645 That was what they called "The Sixth Sense." 567 00:23:56,696 --> 00:23:58,866 And there were orders not to call it a horror film. 568 00:23:58,915 --> 00:24:02,435 One of the scariest, most brilliant films ever made, 569 00:24:02,484 --> 00:24:04,494 and they said, "Don't call it a horror movie." 570 00:24:04,530 --> 00:24:06,660 It was like "horror" was a dirty word. 571 00:24:06,706 --> 00:24:08,446 - I'll show you where my dad keeps his gun. 572 00:24:08,490 --> 00:24:09,670 Come on. 573 00:24:09,709 --> 00:24:11,539 ♪ 574 00:24:11,580 --> 00:24:15,150 - Cole Sear is a eight-year-old boy 575 00:24:15,192 --> 00:24:18,282 living in Philadelphia, uh, with a young, single mom. 576 00:24:18,326 --> 00:24:20,146 He's a very troubled and disturbed boy. 577 00:24:20,197 --> 00:24:24,247 And he runs into a child psychologist. 578 00:24:24,288 --> 00:24:27,418 - Think about what you wanna get out of our time together. 579 00:24:27,466 --> 00:24:29,246 What our goal should be. 580 00:24:29,293 --> 00:24:30,603 - Instead of something I want, 581 00:24:30,643 --> 00:24:32,733 can it be something I don't want? 582 00:24:32,775 --> 00:24:35,995 And he tries to treat Cole, and tries to help him, 583 00:24:36,039 --> 00:24:38,039 and he ends up finding out that Cole 584 00:24:38,085 --> 00:24:41,475 believes that he sees ghosts and spirits 585 00:24:41,523 --> 00:24:44,093 of people walking around in day to day life. 586 00:24:44,134 --> 00:24:46,054 And they even come into his home. 587 00:24:46,093 --> 00:24:48,363 Mama. 588 00:24:48,399 --> 00:24:52,059 - No, dinner is not ready. 589 00:24:52,099 --> 00:24:53,799 ♪ 590 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,670 - What's great is that when somebody like 591 00:24:55,711 --> 00:24:58,151 M. Night Shyamalan comes along with "The Sixth Sense," 592 00:24:58,192 --> 00:25:00,022 he has the confidence to slow it down 593 00:25:00,063 --> 00:25:02,683 and make it intimate, and make it about the performances, 594 00:25:02,718 --> 00:25:05,678 and make you completely invested in the premise. 595 00:25:05,721 --> 00:25:07,641 ♪ 596 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,990 - "The Sixth Sense" was deeply soulful. 597 00:25:11,031 --> 00:25:13,821 The purpose of all the ghosts, it's all about, like, 598 00:25:13,860 --> 00:25:16,520 resolving your human relationships, 599 00:25:16,558 --> 00:25:19,648 which is actually more scary than a ghost. 600 00:25:19,692 --> 00:25:22,782 [laughs] 601 00:25:22,825 --> 00:25:26,305 It was perfectly cast as well. It was, like, 602 00:25:26,350 --> 00:25:29,270 an awesome, different thing for Bruce Willis at the time. 603 00:25:29,310 --> 00:25:32,570 - I can't be your doctor anymore. 604 00:25:32,618 --> 00:25:34,968 I haven't paid enough attention to my family. 605 00:25:35,011 --> 00:25:38,011 - Poor Haley Joel Osment was fantastic, 606 00:25:38,058 --> 00:25:40,888 who had this most expressive face 607 00:25:40,930 --> 00:25:43,110 and pain and loneliness 608 00:25:43,150 --> 00:25:47,720 that's expressed so well that he feels 40 years old 609 00:25:47,763 --> 00:25:49,463 rather than 10 years old. 610 00:25:49,504 --> 00:25:51,334 - You believe me, right? 611 00:25:51,375 --> 00:25:54,505 - Haley Joel Osment is from another planet in that movie. 612 00:25:54,553 --> 00:25:58,173 - And you're so drawn to--to Haley Joel Osment 613 00:25:58,208 --> 00:26:01,558 that you can't help but-- but sympathize for the people 614 00:26:01,603 --> 00:26:04,213 that have died through him. 615 00:26:04,258 --> 00:26:05,648 [dramatic musical flourish] 616 00:26:05,694 --> 00:26:07,484 - That shoot was sort of my education 617 00:26:07,522 --> 00:26:09,182 into a lot of horror films, 618 00:26:09,219 --> 00:26:10,959 because we were watching a lot of things to see 619 00:26:11,004 --> 00:26:13,444 good examples of people in frightening situations. 620 00:26:13,484 --> 00:26:15,624 'Cause at like 10 years old, you haven't really had 621 00:26:15,661 --> 00:26:17,531 a whole lot of traumatizing experiences 622 00:26:17,576 --> 00:26:20,616 most of the time. 623 00:26:20,666 --> 00:26:22,016 - What is it? What...? 624 00:26:22,058 --> 00:26:24,708 - [whispering] Why did you leave me? 625 00:26:24,757 --> 00:26:26,017 [ominous music] 626 00:26:26,062 --> 00:26:27,592 - I didn't leave you. 627 00:26:27,629 --> 00:26:31,589 [object clinks, rolls] 628 00:26:31,633 --> 00:26:33,683 - I did not see the twist coming in that film. 629 00:26:33,722 --> 00:26:35,422 I was so scared. - No, and anybody-- 630 00:26:35,463 --> 00:26:37,473 by the way, anybody that tells you they guessed it, 631 00:26:37,508 --> 00:26:39,598 they're so full of it. - I so didn't. 632 00:26:39,641 --> 00:26:40,991 - Nobody gets is. - Did you guess it? 633 00:26:41,034 --> 00:26:42,784 - No-- - Oh, good, I was gonna say-- 634 00:26:42,818 --> 00:26:45,128 - I can't even guess the ending of a "Murder, She Wrote," 635 00:26:45,168 --> 00:26:46,818 let alone "The Sixth Sense." [laughter] 636 00:26:46,866 --> 00:26:48,296 - [whispering] Anna. 637 00:26:48,345 --> 00:26:50,125 [solemn music] 638 00:26:50,173 --> 00:26:52,003 - Happy anniversary. 639 00:26:52,045 --> 00:26:54,085 - It's a frightening movie, 640 00:26:54,134 --> 00:26:56,444 but the fear doesn't come from ghosts. 641 00:26:56,484 --> 00:26:58,144 It comes from people being afraid that, uh, 642 00:26:58,181 --> 00:27:00,101 they won't be able to communicate with each other. 643 00:27:00,140 --> 00:27:02,580 So the movie is--communication is the real theme of the movie. 644 00:27:02,621 --> 00:27:03,671 [ominous music] 645 00:27:03,709 --> 00:27:05,669 - What do you think they want? 646 00:27:05,711 --> 00:27:07,021 - Just help. 647 00:27:07,060 --> 00:27:09,930 - That's right. That's what I think too. 648 00:27:09,976 --> 00:27:12,666 They just want help, even the scary ones. 649 00:27:12,718 --> 00:27:13,978 [suspenseful music] 650 00:27:14,023 --> 00:27:16,113 - Ah! [panting] 651 00:27:16,156 --> 00:27:21,416 ♪ 652 00:27:21,465 --> 00:27:25,555 What sets Cole free from his situation 653 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,730 is when he finally figures out that he has to be a conduit 654 00:27:27,776 --> 00:27:30,256 between people who still need to, uh, 655 00:27:30,300 --> 00:27:31,650 communicate with each other. 656 00:27:31,693 --> 00:27:34,523 Grandma says hi. 657 00:27:34,565 --> 00:27:38,175 And even though Night does some amazing things 658 00:27:38,221 --> 00:27:40,051 that really makes you jump and--and create 659 00:27:40,093 --> 00:27:41,573 some really frightening circumstances, 660 00:27:41,616 --> 00:27:43,656 I think what makes the movie endure 661 00:27:43,705 --> 00:27:45,875 is that anybody can identify with that sort of desire 662 00:27:45,925 --> 00:27:48,445 of saying things to people that you never got to say. 663 00:27:48,492 --> 00:27:50,542 She said 664 00:27:50,581 --> 00:27:53,111 you came to the place where they buried her, 665 00:27:53,149 --> 00:27:56,109 [stirring music] 666 00:27:56,152 --> 00:27:58,682 asked her a question. 667 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,070 ♪ 668 00:28:01,114 --> 00:28:03,684 She said the answer is... 669 00:28:03,725 --> 00:28:05,595 ♪ 670 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,730 every day. 671 00:28:07,773 --> 00:28:10,083 ♪ 672 00:28:10,123 --> 00:28:12,213 - The theme of ghosts looking to the living 673 00:28:12,255 --> 00:28:14,295 to solve unfinished business 674 00:28:14,344 --> 00:28:16,874 didn't start with "The Sixth Sense." 675 00:28:16,912 --> 00:28:19,052 Some of the greatest ghost stories of all time, 676 00:28:19,088 --> 00:28:20,828 old and new, 677 00:28:20,873 --> 00:28:23,403 are murder mysteries the dead want us to solve. 678 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,010 [suspenseful music] 679 00:28:28,532 --> 00:28:31,142 [foreboding music] 680 00:28:31,187 --> 00:28:32,747 ♪ 681 00:28:32,798 --> 00:28:34,968 - She's mad. - Ghosts can be terrifying. 682 00:28:35,017 --> 00:28:36,667 - [screeches] - [screams] 683 00:28:36,715 --> 00:28:38,925 - But in some films, the spirits of the dead 684 00:28:38,978 --> 00:28:41,978 aren't trying to torment the living. 685 00:28:42,024 --> 00:28:44,554 They're victims of terrible crimes, 686 00:28:44,592 --> 00:28:47,602 looking for justice. 687 00:28:47,638 --> 00:28:50,338 - [screeching] - [screams] 688 00:28:50,380 --> 00:28:53,560 - Perhaps the greatest ghost mystery movie of all time 689 00:28:53,601 --> 00:28:55,261 is "The Changeling." 690 00:28:55,298 --> 00:28:56,998 It's not as famous as "The Shining" 691 00:28:57,039 --> 00:28:58,609 or "Poltergeist." 692 00:28:58,649 --> 00:29:00,609 But it deserves to be. 693 00:29:00,651 --> 00:29:02,781 [suspenseful music] 694 00:29:02,828 --> 00:29:04,738 - "The Changeling" is one of the best 695 00:29:04,786 --> 00:29:07,266 American ghost stories put on film. 696 00:29:07,310 --> 00:29:11,050 Very powerful. And George C. Scott is terrific. 697 00:29:11,097 --> 00:29:14,187 - George C. Scott plays a composer 698 00:29:14,230 --> 00:29:15,800 who is dealing with the death 699 00:29:15,841 --> 00:29:18,191 of his young daughter and wife 700 00:29:18,234 --> 00:29:20,894 in a tragic car accident. 701 00:29:20,933 --> 00:29:23,463 ♪ 702 00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:26,030 - George C. Scott winds up moving 703 00:29:26,068 --> 00:29:29,508 to a vast, crumbling mansion 704 00:29:29,550 --> 00:29:31,550 that hasn't been inhabited in years. 705 00:29:31,595 --> 00:29:33,335 - And he's trying to shake himself 706 00:29:33,380 --> 00:29:35,820 of his memory of his daughter. 707 00:29:35,861 --> 00:29:38,471 - And then over the course of his stay, 708 00:29:38,515 --> 00:29:40,685 he starts to notice something 709 00:29:40,735 --> 00:29:42,685 trying to communicate with him. 710 00:29:42,737 --> 00:29:46,307 At first, it's really subtle things like a piano note 711 00:29:46,349 --> 00:29:47,829 playing itself. 712 00:29:47,873 --> 00:29:50,223 [piano note rings] 713 00:29:50,266 --> 00:29:52,916 It escalates into pounding noises. 714 00:29:52,965 --> 00:29:55,045 [pounding] 715 00:29:55,097 --> 00:29:57,527 ♪ 716 00:29:57,578 --> 00:29:59,618 And so he starts to realize 717 00:29:59,667 --> 00:30:00,967 that there's something in the house 718 00:30:01,016 --> 00:30:04,146 that's trying to connect to him. 719 00:30:04,193 --> 00:30:06,543 - "The Changeling" feels very real. 720 00:30:06,587 --> 00:30:08,327 I think that's why I love it so much. 721 00:30:08,371 --> 00:30:11,111 The way it handles the paranormal 722 00:30:11,157 --> 00:30:13,807 is very simple and effective. 723 00:30:13,855 --> 00:30:17,505 [pounding continues] 724 00:30:17,554 --> 00:30:19,864 - It's the first movie that, um, 725 00:30:19,905 --> 00:30:23,385 made a bouncing ball absolutely terrifying. 726 00:30:23,430 --> 00:30:27,130 [ball thumping] 727 00:30:27,173 --> 00:30:28,873 - So the ball comes thump, thump, 728 00:30:28,914 --> 00:30:31,184 thumping down the stairs, 729 00:30:31,220 --> 00:30:33,310 and George C. Scott is freaked out, 730 00:30:33,353 --> 00:30:35,923 and he says, Enough of that, and he--he takes the ball 731 00:30:35,964 --> 00:30:37,794 to the nearest bridge, 732 00:30:37,836 --> 00:30:41,836 and he drops it 70 feet down into the--the river. 733 00:30:41,883 --> 00:30:44,843 [ominous orchestral music] 734 00:30:44,886 --> 00:30:46,846 And he drives home and he thinks, Phew, 735 00:30:46,888 --> 00:30:48,458 that's over with. 736 00:30:48,498 --> 00:30:49,978 And he walks in through the front door and... 737 00:30:50,022 --> 00:30:57,072 ♪ 738 00:31:00,771 --> 00:31:02,821 You know, it makes my skin crawl just to think about it. 739 00:31:02,861 --> 00:31:05,081 Love that. - What is your name? 740 00:31:05,124 --> 00:31:07,174 ♪ 741 00:31:07,213 --> 00:31:08,613 - [whispering] Joseph. 742 00:31:08,649 --> 00:31:09,909 - It's the ghost of a young boy 743 00:31:09,955 --> 00:31:11,825 who was murdered in the house. 744 00:31:11,870 --> 00:31:14,480 - What is your name? 745 00:31:14,524 --> 00:31:17,754 - [whispering] Joseph. 746 00:31:17,788 --> 00:31:21,578 - George C. Scott understands that the specter of this child 747 00:31:21,618 --> 00:31:23,228 has something to communicate, 748 00:31:23,272 --> 00:31:25,232 and he's afraid of it, and he's afraid 749 00:31:25,274 --> 00:31:27,324 of what it will do, but he's also curious 750 00:31:27,363 --> 00:31:30,113 and wants to help it, because of his own loss. 751 00:31:30,149 --> 00:31:31,929 ♪ 752 00:31:31,977 --> 00:31:34,147 - There's something about heartbreak and horror 753 00:31:34,196 --> 00:31:36,716 that go hand in hand. 754 00:31:36,764 --> 00:31:38,644 When you've lost a child, 755 00:31:38,679 --> 00:31:42,159 it's something so deep and so painful 756 00:31:42,204 --> 00:31:46,034 that it either closes you off completely, 757 00:31:46,078 --> 00:31:49,428 or it opens you up to other experience. 758 00:31:49,472 --> 00:31:51,472 - What is it doing? Why is it trying to reach me? 759 00:31:51,518 --> 00:31:54,218 - John. - Is it because of my daughter? 760 00:31:54,260 --> 00:31:57,000 ♪ 761 00:31:57,045 --> 00:31:58,695 I can't go through all this again. 762 00:31:58,742 --> 00:32:01,662 - I think a lot of ghost stories are about wrestling 763 00:32:01,702 --> 00:32:03,622 with the idea of loss. - [sobbing] 764 00:32:03,660 --> 00:32:07,530 - Trying to make sense of the death of loved ones 765 00:32:07,577 --> 00:32:09,747 and--and what that means. 766 00:32:09,797 --> 00:32:11,487 What happens to us when we're gone? 767 00:32:11,538 --> 00:32:14,978 - If any of us were forced to linger behind, 768 00:32:15,020 --> 00:32:17,590 uh, on this plane, in the afterlife, 769 00:32:17,631 --> 00:32:20,501 it's probably because there's some unfinished business. 770 00:32:20,547 --> 00:32:22,977 [tense music] 771 00:32:23,028 --> 00:32:24,858 ♪ 772 00:32:24,899 --> 00:32:26,769 And "The Changeling" was the first time I got exposed 773 00:32:26,814 --> 00:32:29,084 to the idea that ghosts didn't just wanna scare 774 00:32:29,121 --> 00:32:31,341 the living [bleep] out of you like they did in "The Shining," 775 00:32:31,384 --> 00:32:33,394 but that they actually wanted help. 776 00:32:33,429 --> 00:32:35,429 They needed someone on the mortal plane 777 00:32:35,475 --> 00:32:36,775 to actually help them. 778 00:32:36,824 --> 00:32:40,004 - What do you want from me? 779 00:32:40,045 --> 00:32:41,825 I've done everything I can do. 780 00:32:41,872 --> 00:32:44,182 - "The Changeling" is, not only is it a horror movie, 781 00:32:44,223 --> 00:32:45,963 it's also, uh, a murder mystery. 782 00:32:46,007 --> 00:32:48,047 We wanna know what happened to this little boy. 783 00:32:48,096 --> 00:32:51,096 And it introduces, uh, sort of an element 784 00:32:51,143 --> 00:32:53,323 we've seen in a lot of ghost story movies since then, 785 00:32:53,362 --> 00:32:55,632 where the ghosts are reaching out to us 786 00:32:55,669 --> 00:32:58,929 to solve a mystery to help put their souls at rest. 787 00:32:58,977 --> 00:33:05,287 ♪ 788 00:33:06,506 --> 00:33:08,416 - [coughing] 789 00:33:08,464 --> 00:33:10,294 - And it's a kind of theme that we've seen 790 00:33:10,336 --> 00:33:12,286 in the films of Guillermo del Toro, 791 00:33:12,338 --> 00:33:15,728 where we really feel the pain of the ghost. 792 00:33:15,776 --> 00:33:18,866 - Unlike "The Changeling," and many other ghost movies, 793 00:33:18,909 --> 00:33:22,439 del Toro lets you see his specters. 794 00:33:22,478 --> 00:33:25,658 The ghost of a murdered child in "The Devil's Backbone" 795 00:33:25,699 --> 00:33:29,569 is one of the most disturbing figures ever put on film. 796 00:33:29,616 --> 00:33:31,396 - Guillermo has this incredible, like, sense-- 797 00:33:31,444 --> 00:33:33,364 uh, visual sense. 798 00:33:33,402 --> 00:33:36,362 [ominous music] 799 00:33:36,405 --> 00:33:37,745 ♪ 800 00:33:37,798 --> 00:33:40,888 Santi, the ghost, empty eyes, 801 00:33:40,931 --> 00:33:43,111 and the crack in--in his forehead. 802 00:33:43,151 --> 00:33:46,631 Blood coming out of his forehead is shooting up. 803 00:33:46,676 --> 00:33:47,896 It's floating. 804 00:33:47,938 --> 00:33:50,678 Its physics abide by the laws of-- 805 00:33:50,724 --> 00:33:53,994 of the conditions where he died. 806 00:33:54,032 --> 00:33:55,772 - [groans, grunts] 807 00:33:55,816 --> 00:33:57,766 - [grunts] 808 00:33:57,818 --> 00:33:59,298 ♪ 809 00:33:59,341 --> 00:34:01,911 - Because he's--he's--he's actually drowned. 810 00:34:01,952 --> 00:34:08,832 ♪ 811 00:34:08,872 --> 00:34:10,442 [dramatic musical flourish] 812 00:34:10,483 --> 00:34:12,793 - But del Toro's ultimate ghost movie 813 00:34:12,833 --> 00:34:16,053 is 2015's "Crimson Peak." 814 00:34:16,097 --> 00:34:18,667 - When the time comes, 815 00:34:18,708 --> 00:34:22,498 you'll hear of Crimson Peak. - [whimpering] 816 00:34:22,538 --> 00:34:24,018 - By blending practical effects 817 00:34:24,062 --> 00:34:26,632 with powerful new CGI... - [screams] 818 00:34:26,673 --> 00:34:30,023 - He took Gothic horror to a level of visual artistry 819 00:34:30,068 --> 00:34:31,978 never seen before. 820 00:34:32,026 --> 00:34:35,116 - [screeching, moaning] 821 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,900 ♪ 822 00:34:36,944 --> 00:34:40,084 [crying] 823 00:34:40,121 --> 00:34:42,691 - "Crimson Peak" was my fifth 824 00:34:42,732 --> 00:34:45,822 of my six movies with Guillermo del Toro. 825 00:34:45,866 --> 00:34:48,476 When he calls and says, "I want you to be in a film," 826 00:34:48,521 --> 00:34:50,181 I don't ask questions, I just say yes, 827 00:34:50,218 --> 00:34:51,698 and then I find out later what it's gonna be. 828 00:34:51,741 --> 00:34:53,271 [chuckles] 'Cause I trust him that much. 829 00:34:53,308 --> 00:34:54,658 [screeching] - [gasps] 830 00:34:54,701 --> 00:34:56,491 - [moaning] 831 00:34:56,529 --> 00:34:58,139 - And then when I found out you're gonna be playing 832 00:34:58,183 --> 00:35:00,973 two of my--of my five ghost ladies in the movie, 833 00:35:01,011 --> 00:35:03,751 I'm like, "How's that, again?" 834 00:35:03,797 --> 00:35:07,627 "Crimson Peak" is about a young woman whose father dies 835 00:35:07,670 --> 00:35:09,190 early in the story. 836 00:35:09,237 --> 00:35:10,407 - [grunts] 837 00:35:10,456 --> 00:35:12,106 [groans] 838 00:35:12,153 --> 00:35:14,463 - Edith is met by a gentleman who says, 839 00:35:14,503 --> 00:35:16,643 Ah, I can--I can offer you a better life. 840 00:35:16,679 --> 00:35:18,549 Come with me to England. And so she comes 841 00:35:18,594 --> 00:35:21,124 with her dowry, with her inheritance. 842 00:35:21,162 --> 00:35:23,902 - Once she signs the final papers, 843 00:35:23,947 --> 00:35:25,647 I want this over with. 844 00:35:25,688 --> 00:35:27,648 - But the house that he takes her to 845 00:35:27,690 --> 00:35:29,650 is haunted by lots of ghost ladies 846 00:35:29,692 --> 00:35:32,742 who might be from a similar past. 847 00:35:32,782 --> 00:35:34,572 - [growls softly] 848 00:35:34,610 --> 00:35:36,130 - [gasps] 849 00:35:36,177 --> 00:35:37,867 - And he might've done this before. 850 00:35:37,918 --> 00:35:40,008 What I love about "Crimson Peak" was 851 00:35:40,050 --> 00:35:42,010 that the ghosts weren't to be feared. 852 00:35:42,052 --> 00:35:44,842 The imagery might be a little off-putting at first, 853 00:35:44,881 --> 00:35:47,151 but they were there to heed warning 854 00:35:47,188 --> 00:35:49,318 and to help this--this woman who was still alive 855 00:35:49,364 --> 00:35:51,634 not to become one of them. 856 00:35:51,671 --> 00:35:53,371 - [breathing heavily] 857 00:35:53,412 --> 00:35:55,762 - His blood 858 00:35:55,805 --> 00:35:59,065 will be on your hands. 859 00:35:59,113 --> 00:36:01,383 - [gasps, pants] 860 00:36:01,420 --> 00:36:03,770 - Well, ghost stories are always about the way 861 00:36:03,813 --> 00:36:06,823 the past casts its long shadow on the present. 862 00:36:06,860 --> 00:36:08,600 - [grunts, groans] 863 00:36:08,644 --> 00:36:10,994 - [grunts] 864 00:36:11,038 --> 00:36:13,948 - Faulkner famously said, The past isn't over. 865 00:36:13,997 --> 00:36:16,217 It isn't even past. 866 00:36:16,261 --> 00:36:18,961 The big bloodstain of the past 867 00:36:19,002 --> 00:36:21,882 lying across the present. 868 00:36:21,918 --> 00:36:24,358 - "Crimson Peaks" ghosts were victims 869 00:36:24,399 --> 00:36:26,099 of cold-blooded murder. 870 00:36:26,140 --> 00:36:28,100 [suspenseful music] 871 00:36:28,142 --> 00:36:31,102 So is the ghost in "The Ring." 872 00:36:31,145 --> 00:36:33,405 But this ghost doesn't wanna help you. 873 00:36:33,452 --> 00:36:35,152 [television buzzes, screeches] 874 00:36:35,193 --> 00:36:38,153 It's a serial killer from beyond the grave. 875 00:36:41,547 --> 00:36:43,197 - Have you heard about this videotape that kills you 876 00:36:43,244 --> 00:36:45,294 when you watch it? 877 00:36:45,333 --> 00:36:48,213 - What kind of tape? - A tape. A regular tape. 878 00:36:48,249 --> 00:36:50,559 [suspenseful music] 879 00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:52,249 ♪ 880 00:36:52,297 --> 00:36:54,387 - "The Ring" is about a videotape, 881 00:36:54,429 --> 00:36:59,089 and if you watch it, within seven days you die. 882 00:36:59,129 --> 00:37:00,649 [television ringing] 883 00:37:00,696 --> 00:37:03,126 ♪ 884 00:37:03,177 --> 00:37:05,527 Naomi Watts plays a news reporter. 885 00:37:05,571 --> 00:37:08,701 And she's reporting on this story. 886 00:37:08,748 --> 00:37:10,658 Essentially, she comes across the film 887 00:37:10,706 --> 00:37:12,966 when doing her journalistic research. 888 00:37:13,013 --> 00:37:14,933 [phone rings] 889 00:37:14,971 --> 00:37:18,451 ♪ 890 00:37:18,497 --> 00:37:21,537 - Seven days. 891 00:37:21,587 --> 00:37:24,197 - And just brings a tape home 892 00:37:24,242 --> 00:37:26,942 and her--her son watches the tape. 893 00:37:26,983 --> 00:37:28,163 [television static whooshes] 894 00:37:28,202 --> 00:37:30,682 - No! 895 00:37:30,726 --> 00:37:32,896 ♪ 896 00:37:32,946 --> 00:37:35,246 - And so now it becomes also a story of-- 897 00:37:35,296 --> 00:37:38,206 of not just a journalist trying to dig into the story 898 00:37:38,256 --> 00:37:41,126 and find its roots. It's a mother 899 00:37:41,171 --> 00:37:42,611 trying to save her son's life. 900 00:37:42,651 --> 00:37:45,571 ♪ 901 00:37:45,611 --> 00:37:48,091 - And it has this natural time bomb structure. 902 00:37:48,135 --> 00:37:50,525 You see the video, you know you have seven days 903 00:37:50,572 --> 00:37:52,052 before you're gonna die. 904 00:37:52,095 --> 00:37:54,225 Your life is gonna decay around you, 905 00:37:54,272 --> 00:37:56,542 and steadily becoming more and more like a nightmare. 906 00:37:56,578 --> 00:37:58,578 ♪ 907 00:37:58,624 --> 00:38:01,544 - [coughing] 908 00:38:01,583 --> 00:38:06,203 ♪ 909 00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:07,890 [coughs] 910 00:38:07,937 --> 00:38:09,977 - And there's nothing you can do to stop it. 911 00:38:10,026 --> 00:38:11,766 - You don't wanna hurt anyone. 912 00:38:11,811 --> 00:38:14,511 - But I do, and I'm sorry. 913 00:38:14,553 --> 00:38:17,563 - As Naomi Watts' character is digging in and digging in, 914 00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:19,559 you realize that this child 915 00:38:19,601 --> 00:38:21,171 is what you have to be worried about. 916 00:38:21,211 --> 00:38:22,561 She's the one that will haunt you, 917 00:38:22,604 --> 00:38:24,084 and she's the one that will come after you. 918 00:38:24,127 --> 00:38:25,867 ♪ 919 00:38:25,912 --> 00:38:28,262 - Samara... 920 00:38:28,306 --> 00:38:29,996 - "The Ring" is a remake 921 00:38:30,046 --> 00:38:32,696 of the haunting Japanese film "Ringu." 922 00:38:32,745 --> 00:38:34,615 - [gasps] 923 00:38:34,660 --> 00:38:36,620 - Though the plot is the same, 924 00:38:36,662 --> 00:38:39,672 you can see how differently Eastern and Western cultures 925 00:38:39,708 --> 00:38:41,408 tell ghost stories. 926 00:38:41,449 --> 00:38:43,759 - There's a very specific approach to fear. 927 00:38:43,799 --> 00:38:45,629 The Japanese films, 928 00:38:45,671 --> 00:38:49,631 all you need is a pale face and long, black hair. 929 00:38:49,675 --> 00:38:53,765 It's iconic in a way that has been for years. 930 00:38:53,809 --> 00:38:58,419 There are icons that, uh, immediately induce 931 00:38:58,466 --> 00:39:01,896 shudders and goose bumps to a Japanese audience 932 00:39:01,948 --> 00:39:04,858 that would not necessarily to an American audience. 933 00:39:04,907 --> 00:39:07,127 ♪ 934 00:39:07,170 --> 00:39:09,090 - [grunts] 935 00:39:09,129 --> 00:39:11,039 [horse groans] 936 00:39:11,087 --> 00:39:13,047 - The U.S. version of "The Ring" 937 00:39:13,089 --> 00:39:15,959 grossed $249,000,000, 938 00:39:16,005 --> 00:39:19,265 ushering in a wave of Japanese ghost film remakes. 939 00:39:19,313 --> 00:39:22,663 - [screeches] - Ah! 940 00:39:22,708 --> 00:39:25,748 - [softly screeching] - [whimpering] 941 00:39:25,798 --> 00:39:28,758 [tense music] 942 00:39:28,801 --> 00:39:30,541 ♪ 943 00:39:30,585 --> 00:39:33,065 - The dark, brooding Japanese horror style 944 00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:35,329 made its way into Hollywood films, 945 00:39:35,373 --> 00:39:37,903 like Andrew Douglas' 2005 remake 946 00:39:37,940 --> 00:39:39,640 of "The Amityville Horror." 947 00:39:39,681 --> 00:39:42,421 ♪ 948 00:39:42,467 --> 00:39:44,337 - We're seeing a lot of Asian horror films 949 00:39:44,382 --> 00:39:46,122 for the first time. - [whimpering] 950 00:39:46,166 --> 00:39:48,776 - We're kind of influence by this new imagery. 951 00:39:48,821 --> 00:39:50,391 We hadn't seen it. 952 00:39:50,431 --> 00:39:52,001 - [screams] 953 00:39:52,041 --> 00:39:54,301 - The child twisted up, stuck to the roof 954 00:39:54,348 --> 00:39:57,698 is very much a kind of Asian horror image. 955 00:39:57,743 --> 00:39:59,613 ♪ 956 00:39:59,658 --> 00:40:02,008 - But "The Ring" remains the most successful 957 00:40:02,051 --> 00:40:04,181 Japanese horror-inspired classic. 958 00:40:04,227 --> 00:40:06,797 - Oh. [screams] 959 00:40:06,839 --> 00:40:09,839 - Rachel! 960 00:40:09,885 --> 00:40:13,445 - "The Ring" was, uh, one of those movies 961 00:40:13,498 --> 00:40:16,938 that had so many disturbing images. 962 00:40:16,979 --> 00:40:19,499 I just--I could not 963 00:40:19,547 --> 00:40:22,197 sleep for days 964 00:40:22,245 --> 00:40:25,855 after I saw that movie. 965 00:40:25,901 --> 00:40:30,041 And I watched a lot of TV, so whenever there would be 966 00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:32,519 static white noise kind of screen, 967 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,080 I would--I just-- I couldn't deal. 968 00:40:35,128 --> 00:40:37,088 - Ah! 969 00:40:37,130 --> 00:40:39,440 - It changed that whole image for me 970 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,400 for the rest of my life, like, to this day, you know, 971 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,490 I--I would probably still get a twinge of, like, 972 00:40:45,530 --> 00:40:46,880 Oh, [bleep]. 973 00:40:46,922 --> 00:40:49,272 - Ah! 974 00:40:49,316 --> 00:40:52,186 - This is about the fear of our own mortality, you know. 975 00:40:52,232 --> 00:40:55,802 About getting the diagnosis that you only have so long, 976 00:40:55,844 --> 00:40:57,634 and not being able to put the brakes on, 977 00:40:57,672 --> 00:41:00,022 not being able to bargain for more time. 978 00:41:00,066 --> 00:41:02,156 [suspenseful music] 979 00:41:02,198 --> 00:41:04,898 - Ghosts mean different things in different religions 980 00:41:04,940 --> 00:41:07,680 and different cultures. Some ghosts are benevolent, 981 00:41:07,726 --> 00:41:10,246 some ghosts are malicious. 982 00:41:10,293 --> 00:41:12,773 But there's always that struggle. 983 00:41:12,818 --> 00:41:15,948 'Cause what--when someone dies, where do they go? 984 00:41:15,995 --> 00:41:18,255 ♪ 985 00:41:18,301 --> 00:41:21,521 I have a friend who says that 986 00:41:21,566 --> 00:41:24,476 the people she knows don't die. 987 00:41:24,525 --> 00:41:26,435 They just are on vacation. 988 00:41:26,484 --> 00:41:27,924 Where's Larry? 989 00:41:27,963 --> 00:41:29,973 Oh, he's in Rio de Janeiro on the beach. 990 00:41:30,009 --> 00:41:34,139 Because they just are here, and then they're not here. 991 00:41:34,187 --> 00:41:36,017 And that's why we create rituals, 992 00:41:36,058 --> 00:41:38,538 funerals, memorial services, to help us deal 993 00:41:38,583 --> 00:41:40,283 with the grief. 994 00:41:40,323 --> 00:41:43,683 And part of the grief is, Where the hell did they go? 995 00:41:43,718 --> 00:41:45,628 ♪ 996 00:41:45,677 --> 00:41:47,847 Movies help you. They're therapeutic. 997 00:41:47,896 --> 00:41:49,806 They deal with "where did they go"? 998 00:41:49,855 --> 00:41:52,945 ♪ 67995

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