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[suspenseful music]
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- I see dead people.
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♪
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- The one monster that's
in every culture,
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no matter how sophisticated
or primitive
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all around the world,
and that's ghosts.
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- Do you believe in ghosts?
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- [roaring, groans]
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- With "Poltergeist,"
what you get is,
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you get the most thoughtful,
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most thought-out,
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most fun haunted house movie
that's ever been made.
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♪
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- "The Shining."
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I mean, that is the ultimate
ghost story, is "The Shining."
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- Here's Johnny.
- [gasps]
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- I was struck most viscerally
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by the performance
of Jack Nicholson.
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- I'm not gonna hurt you.
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I'm just gonna
bash your brains.
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♪
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- Ah!
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- "The Sixth Sense"
is masterful
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in that it really plays
with the ghost story
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in a very new way.
- Ah!
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- He sees ghosts and spirits.
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Stop looking at me.
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People walking around
in their day-to-day life.
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[crashing]
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- What "Insidious" has brought
to the genre is a humanity
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which I'm not sure
has been in many
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of the spooky movies
we've seen.
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♪
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- "The Ring" was
one of those movies
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that had so many
disturbing images...
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♪
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...that I could not sleep
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for days after
I saw that movie.
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[gunshot]
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- Ghost stories
are always about the way
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the past casts its long shadow
on the present.
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- [shrieks]
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- They make us question,
is there something else?
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Am I gonna wind up in limbo?
Am I gonna wind up in heaven?
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Or hell?
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♪
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- Totally getting goose bumps
talking about this.
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- [screams]
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[spooky music]
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♪
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♪
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[chainsaw revs]
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♪
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[ominous music]
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- It's coming toward us.
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- Vampires,
werewolves, zombies.
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People don't really
believe that stuff is real.
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But ghosts,
you ask 99% of the people,
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they're like 100% certain
that they have seen a ghost.
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- [screams]
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- That there are ghosts,
that they experienced ghosts.
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There are ghosts in the house.
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- Oh!
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- I mean, the ghost subgenre--
I mean, I think that's why
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it just--it literally
never dies.
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♪
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Ghost movies
have been with us
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since the dawn of cinema.
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The first horror film,
"La Manoir du Diable,"
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from 1896,
was a ghost story.
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But until the 1980s, spirits
were rarely seen onscreen.
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And if they were,
they were rarely convincing.
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That all changed
with "Poltergeist."
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- They're here.
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- Well, "Poltergeist" was one
of the first scary movies
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that I can remember
seeing as a kid.
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I was truly terrified
by that movie
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and I--I'm still to this day
terrified of ghosts.
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- I was still a child
when I saw it.
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I really connected
to that story,
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the magical of uncertainty
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of the afterlife
and--and spirits.
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♪
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- "Poltergeist" is
a haunted house movie
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that took place
in the suburbs,
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that was in the least scary
place possible.
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- I'm out of here.
- Bye.
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- The family lives
in the San Fernando Valley,
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that gets plagued by spirits
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because of the area where they
live was built on a graveyard
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that is getting back at 'em.
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- Don't worry about it.
After all,
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it's not ancient tribal
burial ground,
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it's just... people.
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- "Poltergeist" is a really
fascinating one for me.
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It's like taking sort of,
almost like,
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decades of horror filmmaking,
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and constructing it into,
like, this pure rollercoaster.
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- No [screams].
- [roars]
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- [screams]
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- Took the director of
"Texas Chainsaw Massacre,"
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Tobe Hooper,
and you took Steven Spielberg,
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the director of "Jaws,"
"Raiders of the Lost Ark,"
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that was the biggest
horror event
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of my childhood,
that movie.
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- And this stuff all works
as long as the audience
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can find some logic for it.
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- Steven just brings this
enthusiasm and this energy
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to the thing.
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And then Tobe is, like,
figuring out the logistics
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and--and how the shot's gonna
look and all of that.
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- What happens to that family
is so Tobe.
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But that family is definitely
more Spielbergian.
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- Before, after,
before, after, before.
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- [laughing] Let me see
your tuck position.
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- The important thing
was the kinetic family,
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and the cohesiveness,
and keeping it light,
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until it starts getting heavy.
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[ominous music]
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- "Poltergeist"
is a movie about
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the tremendous
guilt and shame we feel
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about leaving our
children in front of the TV,
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letting the TV be
the babysitter.
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We know it's wrong.
We do it anyway.
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- That scene where the little
girl is standing in front
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of the, uh--the television,
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and it reaches out
to molest her.
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♪
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- Kind of a dawning
realization that we might be
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sacrificing our--our children
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in front of, uh,
this glowing screen.
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♪
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- I think what Steven and his
collaborators predicted
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with "Poltergeist" is--is true.
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We've all fallen
into our television.
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- [yelps]
- Mommy.
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I can't see you, Mommy.
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Where are you?
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- Their young daughter
gets trapped
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between this world
and the next.
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- Your daughter is alive
and in this house.
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- During the course
of the film,
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the mother literally
goes to hell
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to rescue her daughter
from the beast.
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- [roars]
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- [screams]
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[whooshing]
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[suspenseful music]
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♪
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- Pull.
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- Phew! Great.
- Real nice.
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- The good fortune of
"Poltergeist" was that
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it did have the budget to allow
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the filmmakers to express
their imagination on film.
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- A spirit coming down
the stairs for the first time.
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Feeling of the--of the body
and the arms coming up.
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Just when we begin
to see the fingers,
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it goes whoosh,
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breaks up like blowing
a smoke ring apart in the air.
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- Anything that Tobe
and Steven could think of
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that belonged in the movie
was in the movie.
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♪
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both: [screaming]
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- But there's no CGI
in "Poltergeist."
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- [whimpering]
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[grunts]
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God.
The face-tearing scene,
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that whole sequence
you can see the three pieces.
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There's me with
the little scratches.
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[ominous music]
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Then there's me with this
giant prosthetic on my face
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that I pull off and pull
strips of it off,
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and then there's
this really cool dummy
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that looks like me,
which is actually
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this dummy with Steven
Spielberg's hands underneath
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pulling all this gunk off.
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♪
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When they showed it
to me the first time,
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I just burst out laughing,
and the--the--
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one of the sound designers
said, "What's so funny?"
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And I said, "Everyone's
gonna remember this scene.
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"I just pulled my face off
and it fell in the sink."
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[whooshing]
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- [laughs]
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- All sorts of
different effects.
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Opticals,
forced perspective sets,
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contrazoom when JoBeth Williams
is running down the corridor,
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and also, brilliant
practical effects.
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[lighting roars]
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- Oh, yeah, boy, that tree.
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♪
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Steven had this image,
'cause when he was a kid,
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there was a tree outside
his bedroom window
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that scared
the crap out of him,
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and so that tree
had to be there.
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It was a rubber tree.
For some reason,
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they put these,
like, knobs in there.
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These little prickly things.
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Well, obviously, the tree,
kind of climb up,
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and kind of, um, like,
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scratching you
and pouring rain
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and you got the wind machines
and the lightning
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and--[snorts]
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things are going off,
and I'm going, Jeez.
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- Look out.
- My leg!
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- For me,
the tree coming alive,
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uh, was very vivid
and visceral,
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and so every time I sort of
looked out the window,
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and the moonlight was just so,
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I would constantly picture
that tree.
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[whooshing]
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- I'm still pissed off
about the tree.
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That tree was
the hardest thing to deal with
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in the whole movie.
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Except for the pool.
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- My God.
[breathes heavily]
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The swimming pool.
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Be careful, honey.
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- Craig Raiche, the prop guy,
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stashed all these skeletons
all over the place.
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[dramatic musical flourish]
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- [screams]
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- We did a take and went
to Craig and I says,
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"Hey, Craig," I s--you know,
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"you don't need to make them
smell like this."
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You know, they--they smelled.
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And he says,
"Well, they're real."
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- [whimpering, panting]
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- I mean, it's a joke now,
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of something was on
an Indian burial ground
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and so you know
it's gonna be haunted.
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And in "Poltergeist," the great
line at the end of the movie
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is when Craig T. Nelson
grabs James Karen
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and shakes him and says...
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- You son of a bitch,
you moved the cemetery
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but you left
the bodies, didn't you?
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You son of the bitch,
you left the bodies
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and you only moved
the headstones!
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You only moved the headstones.
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- And I think, in a way,
that says a lot about America,
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that we, uh--we moved
the headstones.
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But the bodies are still there.
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[whooshing]
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- The spirit of "Poltergeist"
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lives on in
the "Insidious" series,
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which shows us an afterlife
filled with restless souls.
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Some friendly.
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Some deadly.
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[thump, rattling]
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- Slow down.
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- James Wan's film "Insidious"
is a ghost story
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for the 21st century.
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It delivers shocks, suspense,
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and genuine emotion
to audiences
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that may think
they've seen it all.
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- [whispering]
Give it, give me.
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I want it.
I want it
258
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[screaming]
now!
259
00:11:06,404 --> 00:11:08,234
[baby crying]
260
00:11:08,276 --> 00:11:10,626
[suspenseful music]
261
00:11:10,670 --> 00:11:12,450
- It's a fun thing
to mess with,
262
00:11:12,497 --> 00:11:15,757
that suburban domestic bliss
that's supposed to exist.
263
00:11:15,805 --> 00:11:17,325
- Can you go wake up Dalton?
264
00:11:17,372 --> 00:11:18,902
- It's a fun thing
to get in there
265
00:11:18,939 --> 00:11:21,769
and rip that domestic
bliss away from a family.
266
00:11:21,811 --> 00:11:23,731
- Dalton, Dalton.
267
00:11:23,770 --> 00:11:25,290
Dalton.
268
00:11:25,336 --> 00:11:27,336
- There is no brain damage.
269
00:11:27,382 --> 00:11:31,732
- "Insidious" is about
a, uh, mother and a father
270
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who lose their child
271
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to a place called
"The Further."
272
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[ominous music]
273
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- What does that mean?
274
00:11:39,829 --> 00:11:43,309
- The Further is a world
far beyond our own.
275
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It's a dark realm filled
with the tortured souls
276
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of the dead.
277
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A place not meant
for the living.
278
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- And all these ghosts
that are crowding
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in this family's house are
trying to get into his body.
280
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It's an empty vessel.
281
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- And they do everything
in their power
282
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to try and get
their child back.
283
00:12:02,896 --> 00:12:05,116
And that's really about what
you would do as a parent
284
00:12:05,159 --> 00:12:07,419
if you--if you
lost your child,
285
00:12:07,465 --> 00:12:09,025
or if your child got sick.
286
00:12:09,076 --> 00:12:10,556
[baby crying]
[dramatic musical flourish]
287
00:12:10,599 --> 00:12:12,859
- [screams] Josh, Josh, Josh,
please, come...
288
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- Twenty minutes
into the movie,
289
00:12:14,821 --> 00:12:16,471
when just as
the audience is saying,
290
00:12:16,518 --> 00:12:19,038
Why on Earth would you not get
out of this house,
291
00:12:19,086 --> 00:12:21,776
the, uh--Patrick Wilson says
to Rose Byrne's character...
292
00:12:21,828 --> 00:12:23,608
- We're going.
293
00:12:23,655 --> 00:12:26,045
- And they move houses.
294
00:12:26,093 --> 00:12:27,923
[foreboding music]
295
00:12:27,964 --> 00:12:32,194
And the haunting follows them
to their next house.
296
00:12:32,229 --> 00:12:33,579
[doors slam]
- [gasps]
297
00:12:33,622 --> 00:12:35,972
- [giggling]
298
00:12:36,016 --> 00:12:38,316
- It's not the house
that's haunted.
299
00:12:38,366 --> 00:12:40,756
♪
300
00:12:40,803 --> 00:12:42,413
It's your son.
301
00:12:42,457 --> 00:12:43,937
♪
302
00:12:43,980 --> 00:12:45,460
- So it doesn't matter
where they move,
303
00:12:45,503 --> 00:12:46,983
they're gonna be--they're
gonna be haunted
304
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no matter where they are.
305
00:12:49,159 --> 00:12:51,769
♪
306
00:12:51,814 --> 00:12:53,254
[dramatic thump]
307
00:12:53,294 --> 00:12:55,994
♪
308
00:12:56,036 --> 00:12:59,776
- So they call upon my
character, Elise Rainier,
309
00:12:59,822 --> 00:13:04,262
who is a known ghost hunter,
so to speak.
310
00:13:04,305 --> 00:13:06,955
I think Elise is distinct
and unusual in the sense
311
00:13:07,003 --> 00:13:10,313
that, um, I'm not
a typical heroine.
312
00:13:10,354 --> 00:13:11,574
♪
313
00:13:11,616 --> 00:13:13,266
[dramatic musical flourish]
314
00:13:13,314 --> 00:13:15,274
[suspenseful music]
315
00:13:15,316 --> 00:13:16,746
- [wheezing]
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00:13:16,796 --> 00:13:18,666
This is how you die.
317
00:13:18,710 --> 00:13:21,410
- Not today it isn't.
318
00:13:21,452 --> 00:13:23,592
[thump]
[grunts]
319
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[whooshing]
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00:13:26,022 --> 00:13:31,852
♪
321
00:13:31,898 --> 00:13:34,378
Come on, bitch.
322
00:13:34,422 --> 00:13:36,032
♪
323
00:13:36,076 --> 00:13:39,686
What I tried to do was find
the places in myself
324
00:13:39,731 --> 00:13:42,691
of empathy, of reception.
325
00:13:42,734 --> 00:13:44,744
Elise is a really good
receiver.
326
00:13:44,780 --> 00:13:46,430
She's got a good radio.
327
00:13:46,477 --> 00:13:49,737
We have some help.
328
00:13:49,785 --> 00:13:52,045
- Who?
329
00:13:52,092 --> 00:13:55,272
- Someone else is here with us.
330
00:13:55,312 --> 00:13:59,062
- Mom.
331
00:13:59,099 --> 00:14:01,099
- You know, she's tuned in.
And I believe all people
332
00:14:01,144 --> 00:14:02,844
have that ability.
333
00:14:02,885 --> 00:14:06,275
I don't think it--it's just,
uh, assigned to a few.
334
00:14:06,323 --> 00:14:08,943
But we're ful--
so full of static
335
00:14:08,978 --> 00:14:12,418
that I think we don't hear
very often at all.
336
00:14:12,460 --> 00:14:15,380
We don't hear each other,
let alone another world.
337
00:14:15,419 --> 00:14:17,419
[whooshing]
338
00:14:17,465 --> 00:14:22,905
♪
339
00:14:22,949 --> 00:14:26,039
- The first "Insidious" score
was a really great experience
340
00:14:26,082 --> 00:14:28,822
beca--it was--it was--
it's a very pure,
341
00:14:28,868 --> 00:14:32,088
very raw filmmaking experience
all around.
342
00:14:32,132 --> 00:14:34,482
[whooshing]
343
00:14:34,525 --> 00:14:36,085
both: [grunting]
344
00:14:36,136 --> 00:14:38,356
- My friend found
this rusted out piano,
345
00:14:38,399 --> 00:14:40,919
and you flick a string,
and just this--just--
346
00:14:40,967 --> 00:14:43,967
eons of just crud
come flying off of it.
347
00:14:44,013 --> 00:14:45,933
It had been abandoned in
the alley behind his studio
348
00:14:45,972 --> 00:14:47,282
for some time
and they dragged it in there
349
00:14:47,321 --> 00:14:49,151
and I got to go in
and record on it.
350
00:14:49,192 --> 00:14:50,932
[rusted piano crash]
351
00:14:50,977 --> 00:14:53,717
So that made up a big part of
the sound of that film.
352
00:14:53,762 --> 00:14:57,202
♪
353
00:14:57,244 --> 00:15:00,124
- We were so thankful when
"Insidious" was a hit film
354
00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,900
and people really took to it.
- [screams]
355
00:15:02,945 --> 00:15:04,635
- Death is the one
inevitable thing.
356
00:15:04,686 --> 00:15:06,296
It's coming for all of us.
357
00:15:06,340 --> 00:15:08,860
There's a human need
to answer that question
358
00:15:08,908 --> 00:15:10,468
of like after death,
and I think
359
00:15:10,518 --> 00:15:13,558
ghost films
feed into that.
360
00:15:13,608 --> 00:15:15,348
- There's very little
we really know
361
00:15:15,392 --> 00:15:17,482
about the spirit world,
if there--
362
00:15:17,525 --> 00:15:19,175
whether you believe
in it or not.
363
00:15:19,222 --> 00:15:21,012
I tend to believe
in everything
364
00:15:21,050 --> 00:15:24,180
because I think we know
so little about so much.
365
00:15:24,227 --> 00:15:26,747
all: [screaming, groaning]
366
00:15:26,795 --> 00:15:29,315
- [whimpering]
367
00:15:29,363 --> 00:15:30,933
[sheet ripping]
368
00:15:30,973 --> 00:15:32,543
- [gasps]
369
00:15:32,583 --> 00:15:34,503
- The "Insidious" series
and "Poltergeist"
370
00:15:34,542 --> 00:15:37,892
showed us normal families
bonded by a love
371
00:15:37,937 --> 00:15:41,197
strong enough to survive
a supernatural attack.
372
00:15:41,244 --> 00:15:44,994
But one of the greatest film
directors of all time,
373
00:15:45,031 --> 00:15:47,991
painted a much darker picture
of parenthood
374
00:15:48,034 --> 00:15:49,954
and the afterlife.
375
00:15:54,605 --> 00:15:57,865
- The haunted house is
a staple of horror films.
376
00:15:57,913 --> 00:15:59,743
It's usually
a sinister mansion
377
00:15:59,784 --> 00:16:01,664
where murders have
been committed.
378
00:16:01,699 --> 00:16:03,269
Or about to be committed.
379
00:16:03,310 --> 00:16:06,140
- This house,
380
00:16:06,182 --> 00:16:08,322
it knows we're here.
381
00:16:08,358 --> 00:16:10,708
- Two haunted house movies
loom above the rest.
382
00:16:10,752 --> 00:16:12,192
[suspenseful music]
383
00:16:12,232 --> 00:16:14,022
Stanley Kubrick's
"The Shining,"
384
00:16:14,060 --> 00:16:16,760
and Robert Wise's
"The Haunting."
385
00:16:16,801 --> 00:16:18,501
♪
386
00:16:18,542 --> 00:16:19,982
- Usually ghost stories work
when it's about
387
00:16:20,022 --> 00:16:21,852
what you don't see.
388
00:16:21,893 --> 00:16:24,373
And so that's, in a way,
why I probably separated out
389
00:16:24,418 --> 00:16:27,858
what is my absolute favorite
horror movie of all time,
390
00:16:27,899 --> 00:16:30,339
um, which is "The Haunting."
391
00:16:30,380 --> 00:16:32,470
- No one who
rented Hill House
392
00:16:32,513 --> 00:16:35,043
ever stayed for
more than a few days.
393
00:16:35,081 --> 00:16:37,001
- I just think that's
the ultimate horror movie.
394
00:16:37,039 --> 00:16:39,999
- The dead are not quiet
in Hill House.
395
00:16:40,042 --> 00:16:42,042
♪
396
00:16:42,088 --> 00:16:45,048
- "The Haunting" is
about a group of people
397
00:16:45,091 --> 00:16:48,491
who are brought together
in this old, dark house
398
00:16:48,529 --> 00:16:51,659
to try to find out
what's at the root
399
00:16:51,706 --> 00:16:54,356
of supernatural spirits.
400
00:16:54,404 --> 00:16:57,674
- The house is calling you.
401
00:16:57,712 --> 00:16:59,712
- It's also about a woman
402
00:16:59,757 --> 00:17:03,757
who has had a very troubled
relationship with her mother,
403
00:17:03,805 --> 00:17:07,845
and who goes away to be
a part of this experience.
404
00:17:07,896 --> 00:17:10,896
- Don't let me go.
Stay with me.
405
00:17:10,942 --> 00:17:12,812
♪
406
00:17:12,857 --> 00:17:15,857
- "The Haunting" works so well
because we don't see anything.
407
00:17:15,904 --> 00:17:18,524
- [indistinct speech]
408
00:17:18,559 --> 00:17:20,869
- We don't see
the ghosts at work.
409
00:17:20,909 --> 00:17:23,559
We sense, we hear them.
410
00:17:23,607 --> 00:17:26,827
- [indistinct speech]
- Are you awake?
411
00:17:26,871 --> 00:17:29,311
Don't say a word, Theo,
not a word.
412
00:17:29,352 --> 00:17:31,352
Don't let it know
you're in my room.
413
00:17:31,398 --> 00:17:35,008
- We are given
complete freedom in our minds
414
00:17:35,054 --> 00:17:37,234
to wander through the house.
415
00:17:37,273 --> 00:17:39,013
- [gasps]
416
00:17:39,058 --> 00:17:41,628
- And it is one of
the most terrifying films
417
00:17:41,669 --> 00:17:44,239
because of Wise's instinct
418
00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:48,110
to focus on the faces
of those being terrified,
419
00:17:48,154 --> 00:17:50,464
because that is what
you're relating to
420
00:17:50,504 --> 00:17:52,464
and that is what is
informing your emotion,
421
00:17:52,506 --> 00:17:54,246
not the ghosts.
422
00:17:54,290 --> 00:17:56,120
- Oh, God, no.
423
00:17:56,162 --> 00:17:59,562
- The first movie that
terrified me to the point
424
00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,260
where I could barely look at it
was "The Haunting."
425
00:18:02,298 --> 00:18:04,518
I was probably 11 years old,
426
00:18:04,561 --> 00:18:06,561
and you never really
see anything
427
00:18:06,607 --> 00:18:08,737
until that woman--
- When that door is pounding.
428
00:18:08,783 --> 00:18:11,093
[door pounding]
429
00:18:11,133 --> 00:18:14,143
- The door kind of bulges.
430
00:18:14,180 --> 00:18:17,310
♪
431
00:18:17,357 --> 00:18:20,187
And finally,
she's going up this rattly,
432
00:18:20,229 --> 00:18:22,409
unsteady spiral staircase,
433
00:18:22,449 --> 00:18:25,369
and the trap door opens
and it's the professor's wife,
434
00:18:25,408 --> 00:18:27,238
and she goes, "Ah!"
435
00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,150
- Ah!
436
00:18:30,196 --> 00:18:32,236
- And I'm thinking, I'm dead.
[chuckles]
437
00:18:32,285 --> 00:18:34,895
I had a heart attack,
I'm never gonna grow up.
438
00:18:34,939 --> 00:18:36,639
♪
439
00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,640
- Of course,
Stephen King did grow up.
440
00:18:39,683 --> 00:18:42,253
And 17 years later,
his second novel
441
00:18:42,295 --> 00:18:44,645
"The Shining" was adapted
for the screen
442
00:18:44,688 --> 00:18:48,208
by the legendary director
Stanley Kubrick.
443
00:18:48,257 --> 00:18:50,737
Like "The Haunting,"
"The Shining" is about
444
00:18:50,781 --> 00:18:52,741
a bad place.
- [screams]
445
00:18:52,783 --> 00:18:54,613
- And the terrible effect
it has
446
00:18:54,655 --> 00:18:57,785
on the people
who stay there.
447
00:18:57,832 --> 00:19:00,402
Jack Nicholson
plays Jack Torrance,
448
00:19:00,443 --> 00:19:04,193
an unstable writer who takes
the job of winter caretaker
449
00:19:04,230 --> 00:19:06,410
at the secluded
Overlook Hotel.
450
00:19:06,449 --> 00:19:08,059
[heart beating]
451
00:19:08,103 --> 00:19:10,023
- Is there something bad here?
452
00:19:10,061 --> 00:19:13,281
- Well...
453
00:19:13,326 --> 00:19:15,806
you know, Doc,
when something happens,
454
00:19:15,850 --> 00:19:19,200
it can leave a trace
of itself behind.
455
00:19:19,245 --> 00:19:23,545
Things that people
who "shine" can see.
456
00:19:23,597 --> 00:19:27,037
- Jack and his son Danny
have a psychic gift.
457
00:19:27,078 --> 00:19:29,908
A shining that lets
them see the ghosts
458
00:19:29,951 --> 00:19:32,481
of the murdered people
at the Overlook.
459
00:19:32,519 --> 00:19:34,959
Those ghosts terrorize Danny,
460
00:19:34,999 --> 00:19:37,789
while they slowly
drive Jack insane.
461
00:19:37,828 --> 00:19:39,828
- [guffaws]
462
00:19:39,874 --> 00:19:41,884
- Jack Torrance,
he's an alcoholic.
463
00:19:41,919 --> 00:19:45,449
He doesn't know
how to control it.
464
00:19:45,488 --> 00:19:48,538
And he blames his son
and his wife
465
00:19:48,578 --> 00:19:50,668
for his artistic impotence.
466
00:19:50,711 --> 00:19:52,761
- Whenever you come in here
and interrupt me
467
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,670
you're breaking
my concentration.
468
00:19:54,715 --> 00:19:57,715
You're distracting me.
And it will then take me time
469
00:19:57,761 --> 00:19:59,891
to get back to where I was.
470
00:19:59,937 --> 00:20:02,027
- There's something about this
hotel that just wants
471
00:20:02,070 --> 00:20:05,120
the people who go there
to murder each other.
472
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,420
- Come and play with us, Danny.
473
00:20:07,467 --> 00:20:09,817
[ominous music]
474
00:20:09,860 --> 00:20:12,910
Forever.
475
00:20:12,950 --> 00:20:16,080
And ever.
476
00:20:16,127 --> 00:20:18,257
And
ever.
477
00:20:18,304 --> 00:20:21,184
- "The Shining" is filled
with the kind of iconic scenes
478
00:20:21,220 --> 00:20:24,270
you'd expect from one of
history's greatest directors.
479
00:20:24,310 --> 00:20:27,140
But Kubrick made many changes
to King's story
480
00:20:27,182 --> 00:20:29,052
that didn't sit well
with its author.
481
00:20:29,097 --> 00:20:31,667
- I can enjoy it on the same
level that you could enjoy
482
00:20:31,708 --> 00:20:34,188
a beautifully restored Cadillac
without a motor in it.
483
00:20:34,233 --> 00:20:35,763
- [laughs]
- You know?
484
00:20:35,799 --> 00:20:38,189
My rap about it is
there's no character arc.
485
00:20:38,237 --> 00:20:41,367
In the book, Jack Torrance
goes from a nice guy
486
00:20:41,414 --> 00:20:45,294
who's trying to get better for
his family and for himself.
487
00:20:45,331 --> 00:20:48,511
And I felt like Jack Nicholson
488
00:20:48,551 --> 00:20:51,291
played Jack Torrance as though
he were crazy from the--
489
00:20:51,337 --> 00:20:52,687
- Crazy from minute one.
490
00:20:52,729 --> 00:20:56,119
- That is, uh, quite a story.
491
00:20:56,167 --> 00:20:58,037
- Talking with Mr. Ullman
in the office,
492
00:20:58,082 --> 00:21:00,352
and Ullman saying this and that
and Jack's going,
493
00:21:00,389 --> 00:21:02,219
"Yes."
- [laughs]
494
00:21:02,261 --> 00:21:04,221
- "Absolutely,
Mr. Ullman."
495
00:21:04,263 --> 00:21:06,873
- Well, you can rest assured,
Mr. Ullman,
496
00:21:06,917 --> 00:21:09,397
that's not gonna happen
with me.
497
00:21:09,442 --> 00:21:12,052
- And I also thought that
Kubrick had taken
498
00:21:12,096 --> 00:21:14,706
a pretty strong, scary,
499
00:21:14,751 --> 00:21:17,061
suspense, horror novel
500
00:21:17,101 --> 00:21:19,411
and turned it into an art film.
501
00:21:19,452 --> 00:21:21,112
- I think Kubrick was doing--
502
00:21:21,149 --> 00:21:23,589
was trying to make
an anti-horror movie.
503
00:21:23,630 --> 00:21:25,940
He was intentionally going
against the grain
504
00:21:25,980 --> 00:21:27,940
of the horror tropes.
505
00:21:27,982 --> 00:21:30,772
You think you know
how horror is made,
506
00:21:30,811 --> 00:21:32,901
well, I'm showing you
how I do it.
507
00:21:32,943 --> 00:21:35,423
- Counter to convention
in "The Shining"
508
00:21:35,468 --> 00:21:38,598
is the brightness
of the lighting style.
509
00:21:38,645 --> 00:21:41,385
And he's almost always
on really wide lenses.
510
00:21:41,430 --> 00:21:43,390
'Cause he doesn't do
that kind of horror,
511
00:21:43,432 --> 00:21:45,432
people don't pop out, you know,
512
00:21:45,478 --> 00:21:48,218
and stab you or whatever.
513
00:21:48,263 --> 00:21:50,223
It's much more psychological,
514
00:21:50,265 --> 00:21:52,565
so it works
for what he's doing.
515
00:21:52,615 --> 00:21:54,095
It's even creepier.
516
00:21:54,138 --> 00:21:56,268
[dramatic musical flourish]
517
00:21:56,315 --> 00:21:58,135
- So much of the movie
is from the perspective
518
00:21:58,186 --> 00:21:59,446
of whatever character
you're with,
519
00:21:59,492 --> 00:22:01,762
so for Danny, it's one thing,
520
00:22:01,798 --> 00:22:04,668
for Jack Nicholson's character
it's this sort of unseen menace
521
00:22:04,714 --> 00:22:06,334
that sort of takes him over,
and Shelley Duvall,
522
00:22:06,368 --> 00:22:08,198
so she's a--
a ghost story freak,
523
00:22:08,239 --> 00:22:09,939
and it's like,
so in her mind
524
00:22:09,980 --> 00:22:12,240
the horror takes on
this cheesier form.
525
00:22:12,287 --> 00:22:14,197
And it's like, Oh--it's just,
everybo--it's all from
526
00:22:14,245 --> 00:22:17,155
subjective perspective, which
just makes it all the creepier.
527
00:22:17,205 --> 00:22:18,375
[tense music]
528
00:22:18,424 --> 00:22:20,824
- Family is a great source
529
00:22:20,861 --> 00:22:22,781
for horror storytelling
530
00:22:22,819 --> 00:22:24,389
because family
is very intimate,
531
00:22:24,430 --> 00:22:26,740
family is very close to us,
532
00:22:26,780 --> 00:22:30,390
and family is very dangerous,
if you're in the wrong family.
533
00:22:30,436 --> 00:22:32,606
- Here's Johnny.
- [gasps]
534
00:22:32,655 --> 00:22:35,655
- The Overlook Hotel and
this trauma-filled family,
535
00:22:35,702 --> 00:22:38,182
they just go together so well.
536
00:22:38,226 --> 00:22:41,746
It's a perfect location
for them to fall apart.
537
00:22:41,795 --> 00:22:44,055
- Danny!
538
00:22:44,101 --> 00:22:46,541
- And that's often the case
in--in haunted house movies,
539
00:22:46,582 --> 00:22:48,722
in movies about ghosts.
People who are traumatized
540
00:22:48,758 --> 00:22:50,278
end up there for one reason
or another,
541
00:22:50,325 --> 00:22:52,675
and the house is just like,
Yes.
542
00:22:52,719 --> 00:22:56,809
This is a person that's ready
to be affected and impacted
543
00:22:56,853 --> 00:22:59,163
by unspoken darkness.
544
00:22:59,203 --> 00:23:01,293
- "The Shining" featured
a boy who could see
545
00:23:01,336 --> 00:23:03,816
the malevolent
spirits of the dead.
546
00:23:03,860 --> 00:23:06,120
Two decades later,
"The Sixth Sense"
547
00:23:06,167 --> 00:23:09,867
told the story of
another haunted child.
548
00:23:09,910 --> 00:23:13,040
This time by ghosts who
were desperate for help.
549
00:23:13,087 --> 00:23:14,257
[dramatic musical flourish]
550
00:23:14,305 --> 00:23:15,605
- [gagging]
551
00:23:19,441 --> 00:23:22,101
- [whispering]
I see dead people.
552
00:23:22,139 --> 00:23:25,449
- Dead people, like, in graves?
In coffins?
553
00:23:25,491 --> 00:23:26,971
[tense music]
554
00:23:27,014 --> 00:23:30,104
- Walking around
like regular people.
555
00:23:30,147 --> 00:23:32,237
- There are many different ways
that you can tell a story
556
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:33,980
within the context
of a horror movie.
557
00:23:34,021 --> 00:23:36,281
And there's high-brow
and low-brow, like, you know,
558
00:23:36,327 --> 00:23:39,457
there are many colors
to the spectrum of horror.
559
00:23:39,505 --> 00:23:42,505
- Cole, you're scaring me.
560
00:23:42,551 --> 00:23:45,551
- They scare me too sometimes.
561
00:23:45,598 --> 00:23:47,118
- They?
562
00:23:47,164 --> 00:23:49,694
[suspenseful music]
563
00:23:49,732 --> 00:23:50,952
♪
564
00:23:50,994 --> 00:23:53,344
- Ghosts.
565
00:23:53,388 --> 00:23:54,908
- Supernatural thriller.
566
00:23:54,955 --> 00:23:56,645
That was what they called
"The Sixth Sense."
567
00:23:56,696 --> 00:23:58,866
And there were orders not
to call it a horror film.
568
00:23:58,915 --> 00:24:02,435
One of the scariest, most
brilliant films ever made,
569
00:24:02,484 --> 00:24:04,494
and they said,
"Don't call it a horror movie."
570
00:24:04,530 --> 00:24:06,660
It was like "horror"
was a dirty word.
571
00:24:06,706 --> 00:24:08,446
- I'll show you where
my dad keeps his gun.
572
00:24:08,490 --> 00:24:09,670
Come on.
573
00:24:09,709 --> 00:24:11,539
♪
574
00:24:11,580 --> 00:24:15,150
- Cole Sear is a
eight-year-old boy
575
00:24:15,192 --> 00:24:18,282
living in Philadelphia, uh,
with a young, single mom.
576
00:24:18,326 --> 00:24:20,146
He's a very troubled
and disturbed boy.
577
00:24:20,197 --> 00:24:24,247
And he runs into
a child psychologist.
578
00:24:24,288 --> 00:24:27,418
- Think about what you wanna
get out of our time together.
579
00:24:27,466 --> 00:24:29,246
What our goal should be.
580
00:24:29,293 --> 00:24:30,603
- Instead of something I want,
581
00:24:30,643 --> 00:24:32,733
can it be something
I don't want?
582
00:24:32,775 --> 00:24:35,995
And he tries to treat Cole,
and tries to help him,
583
00:24:36,039 --> 00:24:38,039
and he ends up
finding out that Cole
584
00:24:38,085 --> 00:24:41,475
believes that he sees
ghosts and spirits
585
00:24:41,523 --> 00:24:44,093
of people walking around
in day to day life.
586
00:24:44,134 --> 00:24:46,054
And they even
come into his home.
587
00:24:46,093 --> 00:24:48,363
Mama.
588
00:24:48,399 --> 00:24:52,059
- No, dinner is not ready.
589
00:24:52,099 --> 00:24:53,799
♪
590
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,670
- What's great is that
when somebody like
591
00:24:55,711 --> 00:24:58,151
M. Night Shyamalan comes along
with "The Sixth Sense,"
592
00:24:58,192 --> 00:25:00,022
he has the confidence
to slow it down
593
00:25:00,063 --> 00:25:02,683
and make it intimate, and make
it about the performances,
594
00:25:02,718 --> 00:25:05,678
and make you completely
invested in the premise.
595
00:25:05,721 --> 00:25:07,641
♪
596
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,990
- "The Sixth Sense"
was deeply soulful.
597
00:25:11,031 --> 00:25:13,821
The purpose of all the ghosts,
it's all about, like,
598
00:25:13,860 --> 00:25:16,520
resolving your
human relationships,
599
00:25:16,558 --> 00:25:19,648
which is actually more scary
than a ghost.
600
00:25:19,692 --> 00:25:22,782
[laughs]
601
00:25:22,825 --> 00:25:26,305
It was perfectly cast as well.
It was, like,
602
00:25:26,350 --> 00:25:29,270
an awesome, different thing
for Bruce Willis at the time.
603
00:25:29,310 --> 00:25:32,570
- I can't be your
doctor anymore.
604
00:25:32,618 --> 00:25:34,968
I haven't paid enough attention
to my family.
605
00:25:35,011 --> 00:25:38,011
- Poor Haley Joel Osment
was fantastic,
606
00:25:38,058 --> 00:25:40,888
who had this most
expressive face
607
00:25:40,930 --> 00:25:43,110
and pain and loneliness
608
00:25:43,150 --> 00:25:47,720
that's expressed so well
that he feels 40 years old
609
00:25:47,763 --> 00:25:49,463
rather than 10 years old.
610
00:25:49,504 --> 00:25:51,334
- You believe me, right?
611
00:25:51,375 --> 00:25:54,505
- Haley Joel Osment is from
another planet in that movie.
612
00:25:54,553 --> 00:25:58,173
- And you're so drawn to--to
Haley Joel Osment
613
00:25:58,208 --> 00:26:01,558
that you can't help but--
but sympathize for the people
614
00:26:01,603 --> 00:26:04,213
that have died through him.
615
00:26:04,258 --> 00:26:05,648
[dramatic musical flourish]
616
00:26:05,694 --> 00:26:07,484
- That shoot was sort
of my education
617
00:26:07,522 --> 00:26:09,182
into a lot of horror films,
618
00:26:09,219 --> 00:26:10,959
because we were watching a lot
of things to see
619
00:26:11,004 --> 00:26:13,444
good examples of people
in frightening situations.
620
00:26:13,484 --> 00:26:15,624
'Cause at like 10 years old,
you haven't really had
621
00:26:15,661 --> 00:26:17,531
a whole lot
of traumatizing experiences
622
00:26:17,576 --> 00:26:20,616
most of the time.
623
00:26:20,666 --> 00:26:22,016
- What is it?
What...?
624
00:26:22,058 --> 00:26:24,708
- [whispering]
Why did you leave me?
625
00:26:24,757 --> 00:26:26,017
[ominous music]
626
00:26:26,062 --> 00:26:27,592
- I didn't leave you.
627
00:26:27,629 --> 00:26:31,589
[object clinks, rolls]
628
00:26:31,633 --> 00:26:33,683
- I did not see the twist
coming in that film.
629
00:26:33,722 --> 00:26:35,422
I was so scared.
- No, and anybody--
630
00:26:35,463 --> 00:26:37,473
by the way, anybody that tells
you they guessed it,
631
00:26:37,508 --> 00:26:39,598
they're so full of it.
- I so didn't.
632
00:26:39,641 --> 00:26:40,991
- Nobody gets is.
- Did you guess it?
633
00:26:41,034 --> 00:26:42,784
- No--
- Oh, good, I was gonna say--
634
00:26:42,818 --> 00:26:45,128
- I can't even guess the ending
of a "Murder, She Wrote,"
635
00:26:45,168 --> 00:26:46,818
let alone "The Sixth Sense."
[laughter]
636
00:26:46,866 --> 00:26:48,296
- [whispering]
Anna.
637
00:26:48,345 --> 00:26:50,125
[solemn music]
638
00:26:50,173 --> 00:26:52,003
- Happy anniversary.
639
00:26:52,045 --> 00:26:54,085
- It's a frightening movie,
640
00:26:54,134 --> 00:26:56,444
but the fear doesn't come
from ghosts.
641
00:26:56,484 --> 00:26:58,144
It comes from people
being afraid that, uh,
642
00:26:58,181 --> 00:27:00,101
they won't be able to
communicate with each other.
643
00:27:00,140 --> 00:27:02,580
So the movie is--communication
is the real theme of the movie.
644
00:27:02,621 --> 00:27:03,671
[ominous music]
645
00:27:03,709 --> 00:27:05,669
- What do you think they want?
646
00:27:05,711 --> 00:27:07,021
- Just help.
647
00:27:07,060 --> 00:27:09,930
- That's right.
That's what I think too.
648
00:27:09,976 --> 00:27:12,666
They just want help,
even the scary ones.
649
00:27:12,718 --> 00:27:13,978
[suspenseful music]
650
00:27:14,023 --> 00:27:16,113
- Ah!
[panting]
651
00:27:16,156 --> 00:27:21,416
♪
652
00:27:21,465 --> 00:27:25,555
What sets Cole free
from his situation
653
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,730
is when he finally figures
out that he has to be a conduit
654
00:27:27,776 --> 00:27:30,256
between people
who still need to, uh,
655
00:27:30,300 --> 00:27:31,650
communicate
with each other.
656
00:27:31,693 --> 00:27:34,523
Grandma says hi.
657
00:27:34,565 --> 00:27:38,175
And even though Night does
some amazing things
658
00:27:38,221 --> 00:27:40,051
that really makes you jump
and--and create
659
00:27:40,093 --> 00:27:41,573
some really
frightening circumstances,
660
00:27:41,616 --> 00:27:43,656
I think what makes
the movie endure
661
00:27:43,705 --> 00:27:45,875
is that anybody can identify
with that sort of desire
662
00:27:45,925 --> 00:27:48,445
of saying things to people
that you never got to say.
663
00:27:48,492 --> 00:27:50,542
She said
664
00:27:50,581 --> 00:27:53,111
you came to the place
where they buried her,
665
00:27:53,149 --> 00:27:56,109
[stirring music]
666
00:27:56,152 --> 00:27:58,682
asked her a question.
667
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,070
♪
668
00:28:01,114 --> 00:28:03,684
She said the answer is...
669
00:28:03,725 --> 00:28:05,595
♪
670
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,730
every day.
671
00:28:07,773 --> 00:28:10,083
♪
672
00:28:10,123 --> 00:28:12,213
- The theme of ghosts
looking to the living
673
00:28:12,255 --> 00:28:14,295
to solve unfinished business
674
00:28:14,344 --> 00:28:16,874
didn't start with
"The Sixth Sense."
675
00:28:16,912 --> 00:28:19,052
Some of the greatest ghost
stories of all time,
676
00:28:19,088 --> 00:28:20,828
old and new,
677
00:28:20,873 --> 00:28:23,403
are murder mysteries
the dead want us to solve.
678
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,010
[suspenseful music]
679
00:28:28,532 --> 00:28:31,142
[foreboding music]
680
00:28:31,187 --> 00:28:32,747
♪
681
00:28:32,798 --> 00:28:34,968
- She's mad.
- Ghosts can be terrifying.
682
00:28:35,017 --> 00:28:36,667
- [screeches]
- [screams]
683
00:28:36,715 --> 00:28:38,925
- But in some films,
the spirits of the dead
684
00:28:38,978 --> 00:28:41,978
aren't trying
to torment the living.
685
00:28:42,024 --> 00:28:44,554
They're victims
of terrible crimes,
686
00:28:44,592 --> 00:28:47,602
looking for justice.
687
00:28:47,638 --> 00:28:50,338
- [screeching]
- [screams]
688
00:28:50,380 --> 00:28:53,560
- Perhaps the greatest ghost
mystery movie of all time
689
00:28:53,601 --> 00:28:55,261
is "The Changeling."
690
00:28:55,298 --> 00:28:56,998
It's not as famous as
"The Shining"
691
00:28:57,039 --> 00:28:58,609
or "Poltergeist."
692
00:28:58,649 --> 00:29:00,609
But it deserves to be.
693
00:29:00,651 --> 00:29:02,781
[suspenseful music]
694
00:29:02,828 --> 00:29:04,738
- "The Changeling"
is one of the best
695
00:29:04,786 --> 00:29:07,266
American ghost
stories put on film.
696
00:29:07,310 --> 00:29:11,050
Very powerful. And George C.
Scott is terrific.
697
00:29:11,097 --> 00:29:14,187
- George C. Scott
plays a composer
698
00:29:14,230 --> 00:29:15,800
who is dealing with the death
699
00:29:15,841 --> 00:29:18,191
of his young daughter and wife
700
00:29:18,234 --> 00:29:20,894
in a tragic car accident.
701
00:29:20,933 --> 00:29:23,463
♪
702
00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:26,030
- George C. Scott
winds up moving
703
00:29:26,068 --> 00:29:29,508
to a vast, crumbling mansion
704
00:29:29,550 --> 00:29:31,550
that hasn't been
inhabited in years.
705
00:29:31,595 --> 00:29:33,335
- And he's trying
to shake himself
706
00:29:33,380 --> 00:29:35,820
of his memory
of his daughter.
707
00:29:35,861 --> 00:29:38,471
- And then over the course
of his stay,
708
00:29:38,515 --> 00:29:40,685
he starts to notice something
709
00:29:40,735 --> 00:29:42,685
trying to communicate
with him.
710
00:29:42,737 --> 00:29:46,307
At first, it's really subtle
things like a piano note
711
00:29:46,349 --> 00:29:47,829
playing itself.
712
00:29:47,873 --> 00:29:50,223
[piano note rings]
713
00:29:50,266 --> 00:29:52,916
It escalates into
pounding noises.
714
00:29:52,965 --> 00:29:55,045
[pounding]
715
00:29:55,097 --> 00:29:57,527
♪
716
00:29:57,578 --> 00:29:59,618
And so he starts to realize
717
00:29:59,667 --> 00:30:00,967
that there's something
in the house
718
00:30:01,016 --> 00:30:04,146
that's trying
to connect to him.
719
00:30:04,193 --> 00:30:06,543
- "The Changeling"
feels very real.
720
00:30:06,587 --> 00:30:08,327
I think that's
why I love it so much.
721
00:30:08,371 --> 00:30:11,111
The way it handles
the paranormal
722
00:30:11,157 --> 00:30:13,807
is very simple and effective.
723
00:30:13,855 --> 00:30:17,505
[pounding continues]
724
00:30:17,554 --> 00:30:19,864
- It's the first movie
that, um,
725
00:30:19,905 --> 00:30:23,385
made a bouncing ball
absolutely terrifying.
726
00:30:23,430 --> 00:30:27,130
[ball thumping]
727
00:30:27,173 --> 00:30:28,873
- So the ball comes
thump, thump,
728
00:30:28,914 --> 00:30:31,184
thumping
down the stairs,
729
00:30:31,220 --> 00:30:33,310
and George C. Scott
is freaked out,
730
00:30:33,353 --> 00:30:35,923
and he says, Enough of that,
and he--he takes the ball
731
00:30:35,964 --> 00:30:37,794
to the nearest bridge,
732
00:30:37,836 --> 00:30:41,836
and he drops it 70 feet down
into the--the river.
733
00:30:41,883 --> 00:30:44,843
[ominous orchestral music]
734
00:30:44,886 --> 00:30:46,846
And he drives home
and he thinks, Phew,
735
00:30:46,888 --> 00:30:48,458
that's over with.
736
00:30:48,498 --> 00:30:49,978
And he walks in through
the front door and...
737
00:30:50,022 --> 00:30:57,072
♪
738
00:31:00,771 --> 00:31:02,821
You know, it makes my skin
crawl just to think about it.
739
00:31:02,861 --> 00:31:05,081
Love that.
- What is your name?
740
00:31:05,124 --> 00:31:07,174
♪
741
00:31:07,213 --> 00:31:08,613
- [whispering]
Joseph.
742
00:31:08,649 --> 00:31:09,909
- It's the ghost of a young
boy
743
00:31:09,955 --> 00:31:11,825
who was murdered
in the house.
744
00:31:11,870 --> 00:31:14,480
- What is your name?
745
00:31:14,524 --> 00:31:17,754
- [whispering]
Joseph.
746
00:31:17,788 --> 00:31:21,578
- George C. Scott understands
that the specter of this child
747
00:31:21,618 --> 00:31:23,228
has something to communicate,
748
00:31:23,272 --> 00:31:25,232
and he's afraid of it, and
he's afraid
749
00:31:25,274 --> 00:31:27,324
of what it will do,
but he's also curious
750
00:31:27,363 --> 00:31:30,113
and wants to help it,
because of his own loss.
751
00:31:30,149 --> 00:31:31,929
♪
752
00:31:31,977 --> 00:31:34,147
- There's something about
heartbreak and horror
753
00:31:34,196 --> 00:31:36,716
that go hand in hand.
754
00:31:36,764 --> 00:31:38,644
When you've lost a child,
755
00:31:38,679 --> 00:31:42,159
it's something
so deep and so painful
756
00:31:42,204 --> 00:31:46,034
that it either closes you off
completely,
757
00:31:46,078 --> 00:31:49,428
or it opens you up
to other experience.
758
00:31:49,472 --> 00:31:51,472
- What is it doing?
Why is it trying to reach me?
759
00:31:51,518 --> 00:31:54,218
- John.
- Is it because of my daughter?
760
00:31:54,260 --> 00:31:57,000
♪
761
00:31:57,045 --> 00:31:58,695
I can't go through
all this again.
762
00:31:58,742 --> 00:32:01,662
- I think a lot of ghost
stories are about wrestling
763
00:32:01,702 --> 00:32:03,622
with the idea of loss.
- [sobbing]
764
00:32:03,660 --> 00:32:07,530
- Trying to make sense of
the death of loved ones
765
00:32:07,577 --> 00:32:09,747
and--and what that means.
766
00:32:09,797 --> 00:32:11,487
What happens to us
when we're gone?
767
00:32:11,538 --> 00:32:14,978
- If any of us were forced
to linger behind,
768
00:32:15,020 --> 00:32:17,590
uh, on this plane,
in the afterlife,
769
00:32:17,631 --> 00:32:20,501
it's probably because there's
some unfinished business.
770
00:32:20,547 --> 00:32:22,977
[tense music]
771
00:32:23,028 --> 00:32:24,858
♪
772
00:32:24,899 --> 00:32:26,769
And "The Changeling" was
the first time I got exposed
773
00:32:26,814 --> 00:32:29,084
to the idea that ghosts didn't
just wanna scare
774
00:32:29,121 --> 00:32:31,341
the living [bleep] out of you
like they did in "The Shining,"
775
00:32:31,384 --> 00:32:33,394
but that they actually
wanted help.
776
00:32:33,429 --> 00:32:35,429
They needed someone
on the mortal plane
777
00:32:35,475 --> 00:32:36,775
to actually help them.
778
00:32:36,824 --> 00:32:40,004
- What do you want from me?
779
00:32:40,045 --> 00:32:41,825
I've done everything I can do.
780
00:32:41,872 --> 00:32:44,182
- "The Changeling" is,
not only is it a horror movie,
781
00:32:44,223 --> 00:32:45,963
it's also, uh,
a murder mystery.
782
00:32:46,007 --> 00:32:48,047
We wanna know what happened
to this little boy.
783
00:32:48,096 --> 00:32:51,096
And it introduces, uh,
sort of an element
784
00:32:51,143 --> 00:32:53,323
we've seen in a lot of ghost
story movies since then,
785
00:32:53,362 --> 00:32:55,632
where the ghosts
are reaching out to us
786
00:32:55,669 --> 00:32:58,929
to solve a mystery to help
put their souls at rest.
787
00:32:58,977 --> 00:33:05,287
♪
788
00:33:06,506 --> 00:33:08,416
- [coughing]
789
00:33:08,464 --> 00:33:10,294
- And it's a kind of theme
that we've seen
790
00:33:10,336 --> 00:33:12,286
in the films of
Guillermo del Toro,
791
00:33:12,338 --> 00:33:15,728
where we really feel
the pain of the ghost.
792
00:33:15,776 --> 00:33:18,866
- Unlike "The Changeling,"
and many other ghost movies,
793
00:33:18,909 --> 00:33:22,439
del Toro lets you see
his specters.
794
00:33:22,478 --> 00:33:25,658
The ghost of a murdered child
in "The Devil's Backbone"
795
00:33:25,699 --> 00:33:29,569
is one of the most disturbing
figures ever put on film.
796
00:33:29,616 --> 00:33:31,396
- Guillermo has this
incredible, like, sense--
797
00:33:31,444 --> 00:33:33,364
uh, visual sense.
798
00:33:33,402 --> 00:33:36,362
[ominous music]
799
00:33:36,405 --> 00:33:37,745
♪
800
00:33:37,798 --> 00:33:40,888
Santi, the ghost, empty eyes,
801
00:33:40,931 --> 00:33:43,111
and the crack
in--in his forehead.
802
00:33:43,151 --> 00:33:46,631
Blood coming out of his
forehead is shooting up.
803
00:33:46,676 --> 00:33:47,896
It's floating.
804
00:33:47,938 --> 00:33:50,678
Its physics abide
by the laws of--
805
00:33:50,724 --> 00:33:53,994
of the conditions
where he died.
806
00:33:54,032 --> 00:33:55,772
- [groans, grunts]
807
00:33:55,816 --> 00:33:57,766
- [grunts]
808
00:33:57,818 --> 00:33:59,298
♪
809
00:33:59,341 --> 00:34:01,911
- Because he's--he's--he's
actually drowned.
810
00:34:01,952 --> 00:34:08,832
♪
811
00:34:08,872 --> 00:34:10,442
[dramatic musical flourish]
812
00:34:10,483 --> 00:34:12,793
- But del Toro's
ultimate ghost movie
813
00:34:12,833 --> 00:34:16,053
is 2015's "Crimson Peak."
814
00:34:16,097 --> 00:34:18,667
- When the time comes,
815
00:34:18,708 --> 00:34:22,498
you'll hear of Crimson Peak.
- [whimpering]
816
00:34:22,538 --> 00:34:24,018
- By blending practical
effects
817
00:34:24,062 --> 00:34:26,632
with powerful new CGI...
- [screams]
818
00:34:26,673 --> 00:34:30,023
- He took Gothic horror to
a level of visual artistry
819
00:34:30,068 --> 00:34:31,978
never seen before.
820
00:34:32,026 --> 00:34:35,116
- [screeching, moaning]
821
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,900
♪
822
00:34:36,944 --> 00:34:40,084
[crying]
823
00:34:40,121 --> 00:34:42,691
- "Crimson Peak" was my fifth
824
00:34:42,732 --> 00:34:45,822
of my six movies
with Guillermo del Toro.
825
00:34:45,866 --> 00:34:48,476
When he calls and says,
"I want you to be in a film,"
826
00:34:48,521 --> 00:34:50,181
I don't ask questions,
I just say yes,
827
00:34:50,218 --> 00:34:51,698
and then I find out later
what it's gonna be.
828
00:34:51,741 --> 00:34:53,271
[chuckles]
'Cause I trust him that much.
829
00:34:53,308 --> 00:34:54,658
[screeching]
- [gasps]
830
00:34:54,701 --> 00:34:56,491
- [moaning]
831
00:34:56,529 --> 00:34:58,139
- And then when I found out
you're gonna be playing
832
00:34:58,183 --> 00:35:00,973
two of my--of my five
ghost ladies in the movie,
833
00:35:01,011 --> 00:35:03,751
I'm like, "How's that, again?"
834
00:35:03,797 --> 00:35:07,627
"Crimson Peak" is about a
young woman whose father dies
835
00:35:07,670 --> 00:35:09,190
early in the story.
836
00:35:09,237 --> 00:35:10,407
- [grunts]
837
00:35:10,456 --> 00:35:12,106
[groans]
838
00:35:12,153 --> 00:35:14,463
- Edith is met by
a gentleman who says,
839
00:35:14,503 --> 00:35:16,643
Ah, I can--I can offer you
a better life.
840
00:35:16,679 --> 00:35:18,549
Come with me to England.
And so she comes
841
00:35:18,594 --> 00:35:21,124
with her dowry,
with her inheritance.
842
00:35:21,162 --> 00:35:23,902
- Once she signs
the final papers,
843
00:35:23,947 --> 00:35:25,647
I want this over with.
844
00:35:25,688 --> 00:35:27,648
- But the house
that he takes her to
845
00:35:27,690 --> 00:35:29,650
is haunted by lots
of ghost ladies
846
00:35:29,692 --> 00:35:32,742
who might be
from a similar past.
847
00:35:32,782 --> 00:35:34,572
- [growls softly]
848
00:35:34,610 --> 00:35:36,130
- [gasps]
849
00:35:36,177 --> 00:35:37,867
- And he might've
done this before.
850
00:35:37,918 --> 00:35:40,008
What I love about
"Crimson Peak" was
851
00:35:40,050 --> 00:35:42,010
that the ghosts
weren't to be feared.
852
00:35:42,052 --> 00:35:44,842
The imagery might be a little
off-putting at first,
853
00:35:44,881 --> 00:35:47,151
but they were there
to heed warning
854
00:35:47,188 --> 00:35:49,318
and to help this--this woman
who was still alive
855
00:35:49,364 --> 00:35:51,634
not to become one of them.
856
00:35:51,671 --> 00:35:53,371
- [breathing heavily]
857
00:35:53,412 --> 00:35:55,762
- His blood
858
00:35:55,805 --> 00:35:59,065
will be on your hands.
859
00:35:59,113 --> 00:36:01,383
- [gasps, pants]
860
00:36:01,420 --> 00:36:03,770
- Well, ghost stories
are always about the way
861
00:36:03,813 --> 00:36:06,823
the past casts its long shadow
on the present.
862
00:36:06,860 --> 00:36:08,600
- [grunts, groans]
863
00:36:08,644 --> 00:36:10,994
- [grunts]
864
00:36:11,038 --> 00:36:13,948
- Faulkner famously said,
The past isn't over.
865
00:36:13,997 --> 00:36:16,217
It isn't even past.
866
00:36:16,261 --> 00:36:18,961
The big bloodstain of the past
867
00:36:19,002 --> 00:36:21,882
lying across the present.
868
00:36:21,918 --> 00:36:24,358
- "Crimson Peaks" ghosts were
victims
869
00:36:24,399 --> 00:36:26,099
of cold-blooded murder.
870
00:36:26,140 --> 00:36:28,100
[suspenseful music]
871
00:36:28,142 --> 00:36:31,102
So is the ghost
in "The Ring."
872
00:36:31,145 --> 00:36:33,405
But this ghost doesn't
wanna help you.
873
00:36:33,452 --> 00:36:35,152
[television buzzes, screeches]
874
00:36:35,193 --> 00:36:38,153
It's a serial killer
from beyond the grave.
875
00:36:41,547 --> 00:36:43,197
- Have you heard about this
videotape that kills you
876
00:36:43,244 --> 00:36:45,294
when you watch it?
877
00:36:45,333 --> 00:36:48,213
- What kind of tape?
- A tape. A regular tape.
878
00:36:48,249 --> 00:36:50,559
[suspenseful music]
879
00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:52,249
♪
880
00:36:52,297 --> 00:36:54,387
- "The Ring"
is about a videotape,
881
00:36:54,429 --> 00:36:59,089
and if you watch it,
within seven days you die.
882
00:36:59,129 --> 00:37:00,649
[television ringing]
883
00:37:00,696 --> 00:37:03,126
♪
884
00:37:03,177 --> 00:37:05,527
Naomi Watts
plays a news reporter.
885
00:37:05,571 --> 00:37:08,701
And she's reporting
on this story.
886
00:37:08,748 --> 00:37:10,658
Essentially, she comes across
the film
887
00:37:10,706 --> 00:37:12,966
when doing her
journalistic research.
888
00:37:13,013 --> 00:37:14,933
[phone rings]
889
00:37:14,971 --> 00:37:18,451
♪
890
00:37:18,497 --> 00:37:21,537
- Seven days.
891
00:37:21,587 --> 00:37:24,197
- And just brings a tape home
892
00:37:24,242 --> 00:37:26,942
and her--her son
watches the tape.
893
00:37:26,983 --> 00:37:28,163
[television static whooshes]
894
00:37:28,202 --> 00:37:30,682
- No!
895
00:37:30,726 --> 00:37:32,896
♪
896
00:37:32,946 --> 00:37:35,246
- And so now it
becomes also a story of--
897
00:37:35,296 --> 00:37:38,206
of not just a journalist
trying to dig into the story
898
00:37:38,256 --> 00:37:41,126
and find its roots.
It's a mother
899
00:37:41,171 --> 00:37:42,611
trying to save her son's life.
900
00:37:42,651 --> 00:37:45,571
♪
901
00:37:45,611 --> 00:37:48,091
- And it has this natural
time bomb structure.
902
00:37:48,135 --> 00:37:50,525
You see the video,
you know you have seven days
903
00:37:50,572 --> 00:37:52,052
before you're gonna die.
904
00:37:52,095 --> 00:37:54,225
Your life is gonna decay
around you,
905
00:37:54,272 --> 00:37:56,542
and steadily becoming more
and more like a nightmare.
906
00:37:56,578 --> 00:37:58,578
♪
907
00:37:58,624 --> 00:38:01,544
- [coughing]
908
00:38:01,583 --> 00:38:06,203
♪
909
00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:07,890
[coughs]
910
00:38:07,937 --> 00:38:09,977
- And there's nothing
you can do to stop it.
911
00:38:10,026 --> 00:38:11,766
- You don't wanna hurt anyone.
912
00:38:11,811 --> 00:38:14,511
- But I do, and I'm sorry.
913
00:38:14,553 --> 00:38:17,563
- As Naomi Watts' character
is digging in and digging in,
914
00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:19,559
you realize that this child
915
00:38:19,601 --> 00:38:21,171
is what you have to be worried
about.
916
00:38:21,211 --> 00:38:22,561
She's the one
that will haunt you,
917
00:38:22,604 --> 00:38:24,084
and she's the one
that will come after you.
918
00:38:24,127 --> 00:38:25,867
♪
919
00:38:25,912 --> 00:38:28,262
- Samara...
920
00:38:28,306 --> 00:38:29,996
- "The Ring" is a remake
921
00:38:30,046 --> 00:38:32,696
of the haunting
Japanese film "Ringu."
922
00:38:32,745 --> 00:38:34,615
- [gasps]
923
00:38:34,660 --> 00:38:36,620
- Though the plot is the same,
924
00:38:36,662 --> 00:38:39,672
you can see how differently
Eastern and Western cultures
925
00:38:39,708 --> 00:38:41,408
tell ghost stories.
926
00:38:41,449 --> 00:38:43,759
- There's a very specific
approach to fear.
927
00:38:43,799 --> 00:38:45,629
The Japanese films,
928
00:38:45,671 --> 00:38:49,631
all you need is a pale face
and long, black hair.
929
00:38:49,675 --> 00:38:53,765
It's iconic in a way
that has been for years.
930
00:38:53,809 --> 00:38:58,419
There are icons that, uh,
immediately induce
931
00:38:58,466 --> 00:39:01,896
shudders and goose bumps
to a Japanese audience
932
00:39:01,948 --> 00:39:04,858
that would not necessarily
to an American audience.
933
00:39:04,907 --> 00:39:07,127
♪
934
00:39:07,170 --> 00:39:09,090
- [grunts]
935
00:39:09,129 --> 00:39:11,039
[horse groans]
936
00:39:11,087 --> 00:39:13,047
- The U.S. version
of "The Ring"
937
00:39:13,089 --> 00:39:15,959
grossed $249,000,000,
938
00:39:16,005 --> 00:39:19,265
ushering in a wave of Japanese
ghost film remakes.
939
00:39:19,313 --> 00:39:22,663
- [screeches]
- Ah!
940
00:39:22,708 --> 00:39:25,748
- [softly screeching]
- [whimpering]
941
00:39:25,798 --> 00:39:28,758
[tense music]
942
00:39:28,801 --> 00:39:30,541
♪
943
00:39:30,585 --> 00:39:33,065
- The dark, brooding
Japanese horror style
944
00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:35,329
made its way into
Hollywood films,
945
00:39:35,373 --> 00:39:37,903
like Andrew Douglas'
2005 remake
946
00:39:37,940 --> 00:39:39,640
of "The Amityville Horror."
947
00:39:39,681 --> 00:39:42,421
♪
948
00:39:42,467 --> 00:39:44,337
- We're seeing a lot
of Asian horror films
949
00:39:44,382 --> 00:39:46,122
for the first time.
- [whimpering]
950
00:39:46,166 --> 00:39:48,776
- We're kind of influence by
this new imagery.
951
00:39:48,821 --> 00:39:50,391
We hadn't seen it.
952
00:39:50,431 --> 00:39:52,001
- [screams]
953
00:39:52,041 --> 00:39:54,301
- The child twisted up,
stuck to the roof
954
00:39:54,348 --> 00:39:57,698
is very much a kind
of Asian horror image.
955
00:39:57,743 --> 00:39:59,613
♪
956
00:39:59,658 --> 00:40:02,008
- But "The Ring" remains the
most successful
957
00:40:02,051 --> 00:40:04,181
Japanese horror-inspired
classic.
958
00:40:04,227 --> 00:40:06,797
- Oh.
[screams]
959
00:40:06,839 --> 00:40:09,839
- Rachel!
960
00:40:09,885 --> 00:40:13,445
- "The Ring" was, uh,
one of those movies
961
00:40:13,498 --> 00:40:16,938
that had so many
disturbing images.
962
00:40:16,979 --> 00:40:19,499
I just--I could not
963
00:40:19,547 --> 00:40:22,197
sleep for days
964
00:40:22,245 --> 00:40:25,855
after I saw that movie.
965
00:40:25,901 --> 00:40:30,041
And I watched a lot of TV, so
whenever there would be
966
00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:32,519
static white noise
kind of screen,
967
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,080
I would--I just--
I couldn't deal.
968
00:40:35,128 --> 00:40:37,088
- Ah!
969
00:40:37,130 --> 00:40:39,440
- It changed
that whole image for me
970
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,400
for the rest of my life, like,
to this day, you know,
971
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,490
I--I would probably still
get a twinge of, like,
972
00:40:45,530 --> 00:40:46,880
Oh, [bleep].
973
00:40:46,922 --> 00:40:49,272
- Ah!
974
00:40:49,316 --> 00:40:52,186
- This is about the fear of our
own mortality, you know.
975
00:40:52,232 --> 00:40:55,802
About getting the diagnosis
that you only have so long,
976
00:40:55,844 --> 00:40:57,634
and not being able
to put the brakes on,
977
00:40:57,672 --> 00:41:00,022
not being able
to bargain for more time.
978
00:41:00,066 --> 00:41:02,156
[suspenseful music]
979
00:41:02,198 --> 00:41:04,898
- Ghosts mean different things
in different religions
980
00:41:04,940 --> 00:41:07,680
and different cultures.
Some ghosts are benevolent,
981
00:41:07,726 --> 00:41:10,246
some ghosts are malicious.
982
00:41:10,293 --> 00:41:12,773
But there's always
that struggle.
983
00:41:12,818 --> 00:41:15,948
'Cause what--when someone dies,
where do they go?
984
00:41:15,995 --> 00:41:18,255
♪
985
00:41:18,301 --> 00:41:21,521
I have a friend who says that
986
00:41:21,566 --> 00:41:24,476
the people she knows don't die.
987
00:41:24,525 --> 00:41:26,435
They just are on vacation.
988
00:41:26,484 --> 00:41:27,924
Where's Larry?
989
00:41:27,963 --> 00:41:29,973
Oh, he's in Rio de Janeiro
on the beach.
990
00:41:30,009 --> 00:41:34,139
Because they just are here,
and then they're not here.
991
00:41:34,187 --> 00:41:36,017
And that's why
we create rituals,
992
00:41:36,058 --> 00:41:38,538
funerals, memorial services,
to help us deal
993
00:41:38,583 --> 00:41:40,283
with the grief.
994
00:41:40,323 --> 00:41:43,683
And part of the grief is,
Where the hell did they go?
995
00:41:43,718 --> 00:41:45,628
♪
996
00:41:45,677 --> 00:41:47,847
Movies help you.
They're therapeutic.
997
00:41:47,896 --> 00:41:49,806
They deal with
"where did they go"?
998
00:41:49,855 --> 00:41:52,945
♪
67995
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