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- Vampires are about sex
and death.
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When the vampire bites...
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[women gasping]
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Women swoon...
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- [gasps]
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- They're dangerous
because they're seductive.
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What is seductive
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is often bad for us,
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is often dangerous.
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[skin crinkling]
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- [roars]
- [hisses]
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- It's not brutality
for the sake
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of being brutal.
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It's survival.
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[rat squeaking]
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- [screams]
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- They are a drug addict,
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a historian,
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a serial killer,
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a hopeless romantic
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all at the same time.
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- [screeches]
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- It deals with the exchange
of fluids.
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It deals with blood.
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- It's too late.
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My blood is in your veins.
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- Vampires are supposed
to be awful--
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the stink of the grave,
his fetid breath.
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It was supposed to be ugly
and nasty.
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- [croaking]
- [screams]
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- And then
there was "Twilight."
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[dark music]
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- What's good about
a "Twilight" movie is,
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it makes everybody
who watches it
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feel like a 13-year-old girl.
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- Vampires are the only ones
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that you can really
make sexy and beautiful.
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- [breathing heavily]
- We are immortal.
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- They've always been--
since Anne Rice, anyway--
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allowed to be gay
or bisexual.
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- This idea of...
- Do you wanna do me now?
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- The taboo...
- [hollering]
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- [growling]
- Darkness.
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- And, you know, if you're
gonna tangle
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with the darkness--
with the sexuality
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and all of that...
- [screams]
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- Well, death
is all around you.
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[vampires screeching]
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[sinister music]
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♪
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[chain saw revs]
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[foreboding music]
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- Naughty little girl.
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- [screams]
- Over the last 25 years,
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we've seen an explosion
of vampire stories.
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♪
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- [hisses]
- [growls]
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- You're wrong.
- "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"
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gave us bloodsucking bad boys
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the heroine both detested
and desired.
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"Underworld" and "Blade"
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recast vampires
as action heroes.
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[dramatic music]
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- [growls]
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- Art-horror films like
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"A Girl Walks Home Alone
At Night"
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and "The Addiction"
used vampires to tell
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allegorical tales
about drug abuse.
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The "Twilight" books
and films doubled down
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on vampire romance...
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- [breathing heavily]
- While sex and splatter
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dominated the teen drama
"The Vampire Diaries"
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and the very adult series
"True Blood."
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Modern vampires
come in many guises,
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but they all address
a singular hunger.
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- It's bringing together
the two things
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that media culture seems
to love the most:
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sex and violence.
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You know, it allows them
to coexist
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in one figure.
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- Vampires have been
violent avatars of the erotic
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going all the way back
to the king daddy
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of bloodsuckers.
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[dramatic music]
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- I am Dracula.
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- I am Dracula.
- I...
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am Dracula.
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[wood creaking]
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- Created in 1897
by novelist Bram Stoker,
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Dracula is a true icon
of horror.
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But Stoker's Dracula
was far more monstrous
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than the polished aristocrats
we think of today.
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[fire crackling]
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- I grew up reading "Dracula"
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and reading about
the stink of the grave,
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the graveyard earth
that the vampire was in
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with the worms crawling in it,
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about his fetid breath.
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It was supposed to be ugly
and nasty.
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- Yeah,
he's the original stalker,
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the original scary stranger,
you know,
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the original serial killer.
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- [hisses]
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- [exclaims]
- One of the reasons
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that Dracula has persisted
for so long--
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as opposed to
the Frankenstein monster,
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as opposed to the Wolfman
or the Mummy--
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was, he was a character.
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He was a genuine...
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character.
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[sinister music]
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- The first unauthorized
adaptation of "Dracula"
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was the German silent film
"Nosferatu."
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It was released in 1922,
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four years after the end
of the First World War.
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♪
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- The makers of "Nosferatu"
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intended that vampire
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to represent war itself...
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♪
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War as a cosmic vampire
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that had drained the blood
out of Europe.
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- And you watch
the original "Nosferatu"...
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- Yeah.
- It was terrifying.
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And I thought it was so cool
that Tobe Hooper went
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to that kind of vampire
in "Salem's Lot."
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- [hisses]
- The bald vampire
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with the teeth like that
always freaked me out.
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- [screeches]
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♪
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The first official
adaptation of "Dracula"
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starred the incomparable
Bela Lugosi.
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- Listen to them.
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The children of the night...
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what music they make.
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- We all know the story:
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looking for new blood,
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the undead Count Dracula
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relocates from Transylvania
to England.
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Once in London,
the vampire begins to feed.
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[woman screams]
He takes a special interest
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in corrupting a young woman
whom he wants
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to turn into
his vampire bride.
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- In 1931,
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which was the worst year
of the Great Depression,
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Universal took a chance
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on "Dracula"
and "Frankenstein."
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- We have this American public
that has just endured
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the beginning
of the Great Depression.
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They wanted to have some sort
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of foreign presence
to go and blame
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for everything
that was happening around them:
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for losing their jobs,
for not being able
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to feed their family.
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- People were on edge,
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and "Dracula" was
the mysterious draining force
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that was at everybody's door.
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- My blood now flows
through her veins.
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- I find it fascinating
that anybody
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for years, decades to come
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who wanted to imitate
Count Dracula
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did it with a Hungarian accent.
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- I am Dracula.
- Greetings.
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It is I, the Count.
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- Welcome
to Hotel Transylvania!
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- I didn't know Bela Lugosi
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was the name of a man.
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I thought all
the horror film monsters
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and all the actors
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worked as a team...
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- [laughing]
- And the name of the team
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was Bela Lugosi.
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- Lugosi was a hard act
to follow.
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It took nearly three decades
for another Dracula
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to make his mark.
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But Christopher Lee
made the role his own.
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- Mr. Harker.
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I'm glad
that you've arrived safely.
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- Count Dracula?
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- I am Dracula,
and I welcome you to my house.
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- Lee was both dapper,
aristocratic,
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and terrifying.
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[sinister music]
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♪
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- [screams]
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- Very different
than Lugosi's count.
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Bela Lugosi's Dracula
never had fangs.
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- They felt that fangs
would have been
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too suggestive of penetration.
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Well, Christopher Lee--
not only did he have fangs,
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but as he's approaching
these women,
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who at first
are intimidated, they...
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start undoing their blouse,
and they're like,
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you know, "Come at me.
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This is awesome."
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♪
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- It's so interesting,
the fear of female sexuality
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that is so powerful
in "Dracula,"
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the idea of a woman
after having had sex,
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basically,
after having been bitten
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and then transforming
into this ravenous
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sexual creature.
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- [hisses]
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- [growls]
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- It's--it's, like, so--
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it's great,
'cause horror allows you
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to really express your fears
in a very obvious way.
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[laughs]
You know, go to town on them.
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- Come.
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Let me kiss you.
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- There have been
many Draculas since Lugosi
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and Lee,
but one truly stands out...
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[foreboding music]
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Gary Oldman
in Francis Ford Coppola's
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epic 1992 adaptation.
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♪
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- Gary Oldman,
who plays Dracula,
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we have him being suave
and sophisticated and sexy,
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and then the next minute,
he's transforming into a wolf--
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a large wolf.
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And he is just maiming people.
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He's vicious.
He's terrible.
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And somehow, it works.
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- [screams]
- [growls]
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[eerie music]
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- I loved Coppola's "Dracula,"
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just the level
of art direction,
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just how creative that was
as a film...
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- [speaking foreign language]
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- And what a mood it set.
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[ominous music]
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When he was doing
Dracula point-of-view stuff,
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the way that he shot that
was so exhilarating.
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- [growling]
- [screams]
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- [barking]
[glass shatters]
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- I think that helps paint
a pretty picture...
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[laughing]
Over the brutality of it all,
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and I think that is specific
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to the vampire genre.
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- We're strong in the Lord
and the power of his might.
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[speaking Latin]
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- [screeches]
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- I bring you from shadow
into light!
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I cast you out,
the Prince of Darkness!
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- We see this
extremely sympathetic Dracula
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because he misses his--
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his wife, who was killed,
and then sees
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sort of her reincarnation
in this modern-day gal.
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That completely revolutionized
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Dracula performances.
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It changed the--the filmic
Dracula mythos.
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[dramatic music]
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- [snarls]
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[growls]
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- And, in fact,
you could argue
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that we're still riding
the wave from that film
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even today.
- [hollers]
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- Mina.
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- What Coppola did was,
he portrayed
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a very tragic figure.
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The guy just wants
to be loved.
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I mean, that's what all of
the Universal monster movies
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have in common
is that they're all just
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male archetypes who want
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the love and affection
of a woman
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but because they're monsters,
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they're sort of scorned
and rejected.
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- [screams]
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- The story of Dracula
continues to resonate today.
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[both breathing heavily]
But its fear
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of female sexuality
is firmly rooted
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in 19th-century England.
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In the late 20th century,
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novelist Anne Rice created
a new breed of vampire
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suited for the modern world,
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vampires as tortured heroes,
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amoral villains, and avatars
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of alternative sexuality.
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- Pretend to drink, at least.
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[ominous music]
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♪
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Such fine crystal
shouldn't go to waste.
283
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- Anne Rice dominates
modern vampire fiction.
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Her books turned the genre
inside out.
285
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Rice's vampires
were beautiful monsters
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with tortured souls.
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- As soon as I started to write
what's called fantasy,
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I was able to touch reality.
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I was able to talk
about my world.
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I was able to talk
about good and evil
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and guilt and pain
and suffering,
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but I had to do it
in that context,
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with that frame
of fantasy around it.
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- Rice's first novel,
"Interview with the Vampire,"
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was made into a film
in 1994.
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The story follows
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the centuries-long
relationship
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between the vampire Lestat
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and Louis, a troubled
New Orleans aristocrat.
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Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt--
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two of the biggest stars
of modern times--
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played the leads.
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- The Paris opera is in town.
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We can try
some French cui--cuisine.
305
00:12:16,039 --> 00:12:19,389
- Forgive me if I have
a lingering respect for life.
306
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- The Louis character
didn't want to be a vampire,
307
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and he didn't like
the brutal killing aspect.
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- [hollers]
- And then you have Lestat,
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who just enjoys and revels
in all of it.
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- Why do you do this?
- I like to do it.
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I enjoy it.
312
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- There was a lot
of controversy
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about casting Tom Cruise,
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but between Tom Cruise,
Brad Pitt,
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and Kirsten Dunst, I thought
they really nailed it.
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I was surprised.
317
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I went in skeptical
but came out a fan.
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[tense music]
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- You see the old woman?
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That will never happen to you.
321
00:12:52,249 --> 00:12:55,909
You will never grow old,
and you will never die.
322
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- That goes down as one
of the great
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child's performances.
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Once in a while, it happens
325
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that a kid can kick
so much ass in a movie.
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00:13:04,609 --> 00:13:06,829
- You give her to me, Louis!
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00:13:06,873 --> 00:13:10,533
Do this before you leave me!
328
00:13:10,572 --> 00:13:11,882
[crying]
329
00:13:11,921 --> 00:13:13,621
Oh, God.
330
00:13:13,662 --> 00:13:15,452
I love you still.
331
00:13:15,490 --> 00:13:18,280
My dark angel,
when you are gone.
332
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[somber music]
333
00:13:19,842 --> 00:13:22,632
- What do you think she is,
Madeleine?
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♪
335
00:13:24,020 --> 00:13:25,850
A doll?
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00:13:25,892 --> 00:13:28,072
♪
337
00:13:28,111 --> 00:13:30,331
- A child who cannot die.
338
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[locket snaps]
339
00:13:31,811 --> 00:13:33,901
- And the child who did die?
340
00:13:33,943 --> 00:13:36,423
- Claudia's probably
the best part of the movie.
341
00:13:36,467 --> 00:13:39,247
You know, the idea
of a vampire
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being forced to age
in the body
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00:13:41,472 --> 00:13:45,002
of, what, a ten-year-old girl?
344
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To see a character
that is granted immortality,
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00:13:49,437 --> 00:13:51,607
but the downside being
she never gets to grow up
346
00:13:51,656 --> 00:13:53,876
to become a woman,
like, that's heartbreaking.
347
00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,270
[tense music]
348
00:13:55,312 --> 00:13:57,752
- Anne Rice lost a daughter
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at a very young age,
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and Claudia in the novel
was an homage to that.
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00:14:03,930 --> 00:14:06,720
- Mama.
- Oh, shh.
352
00:14:06,758 --> 00:14:08,538
Hush, now.
Don't cry.
353
00:14:08,586 --> 00:14:10,716
We'll find her.
- Mama.
354
00:14:10,762 --> 00:14:12,902
- Oh.
355
00:14:12,939 --> 00:14:15,899
- The vampires Lestat,
Louis, and Claudia
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form a family of outsiders
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headed by two fathers.
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The arrangement
suggested gay marriage
359
00:14:23,340 --> 00:14:26,910
years before that was accepted
by mainstream society.
360
00:14:26,953 --> 00:14:29,223
- One happy family.
361
00:14:29,259 --> 00:14:32,649
- The novel was intentionally
homoerotic.
362
00:14:32,697 --> 00:14:34,347
Even though I think
they downplayed
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00:14:34,395 --> 00:14:36,395
a little bit
of the homoeroticism
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00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,140
that was in novel,
it was still there.
365
00:14:39,182 --> 00:14:43,712
- I've drained you
to the point of death.
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00:14:43,752 --> 00:14:46,232
- Using it as a cultural link
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00:14:46,276 --> 00:14:48,496
with homosexuality...
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00:14:48,539 --> 00:14:49,979
- Yes.
- Has been part
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00:14:50,019 --> 00:14:51,889
of the vampire mystique,
but I mean,
370
00:14:51,934 --> 00:14:55,164
when you couldn't deal
with homo--homosexuality,
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00:14:55,198 --> 00:14:58,108
you could deal with it
to some degree or another
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00:14:58,158 --> 00:14:59,768
in vampire movies,
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00:14:59,811 --> 00:15:03,121
even going back as far
as the '30s.
374
00:15:03,163 --> 00:15:05,383
- Really?
- Yeah, "Dracula's Daughter."
375
00:15:05,426 --> 00:15:08,206
- I suppose you'll want these
pulled down, won't you?
376
00:15:08,255 --> 00:15:09,335
- Yes.
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00:15:09,386 --> 00:15:11,686
- Probably the most famous
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00:15:11,736 --> 00:15:13,476
lesbian sequence...
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00:15:13,521 --> 00:15:15,921
- Mm-hmm.
- In an American movie
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00:15:15,958 --> 00:15:17,218
made in the '30s.
381
00:15:17,264 --> 00:15:19,964
- Why are you looking at me
that way?
382
00:15:20,006 --> 00:15:22,046
Won't I do?
383
00:15:22,095 --> 00:15:24,045
- Yes, you'll do very well
indeed.
384
00:15:24,097 --> 00:15:27,267
- The suggestion
of a female seduction
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00:15:27,317 --> 00:15:29,147
is just right there.
386
00:15:29,189 --> 00:15:31,499
That's just--it's just there.
387
00:15:31,539 --> 00:15:33,059
It's not even subtext.
388
00:15:33,106 --> 00:15:35,936
- You are out of your mind.
389
00:15:35,978 --> 00:15:38,938
[intimate music]
390
00:15:38,981 --> 00:15:42,511
♪
391
00:15:42,550 --> 00:15:45,290
- It was commonplace,
particularly in the '70s--
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00:15:45,335 --> 00:15:48,155
lesbians would, like, say,
"Oh, wow, I-I just saw
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00:15:48,208 --> 00:15:50,298
"this magnificent movie
394
00:15:50,340 --> 00:15:53,260
"about these two women
that were in love, and it--
395
00:15:53,300 --> 00:15:55,650
"and it really played
the relationship
396
00:15:55,693 --> 00:15:57,133
"for all it's worth.
397
00:15:57,173 --> 00:15:58,703
I mean, they're vampires,
all right, but..."
398
00:15:58,740 --> 00:15:59,830
- "But..." That's--yeah.
- [laughs]
399
00:15:59,871 --> 00:16:01,131
- Well, this is one
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00:16:01,177 --> 00:16:02,737
of the cool things
about horror
401
00:16:02,787 --> 00:16:04,137
is that historically,
it's always been able
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00:16:04,180 --> 00:16:05,970
to deal with taboo subjects.
403
00:16:06,008 --> 00:16:07,578
[dark music]
404
00:16:07,618 --> 00:16:10,708
In recent times,
the challenging of taboos
405
00:16:10,752 --> 00:16:12,322
was taken to new levels
406
00:16:12,362 --> 00:16:14,802
by the television series
"True Blood."
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00:16:14,843 --> 00:16:17,893
It cut open the veins
of vampirism
408
00:16:17,933 --> 00:16:21,113
and let the pansexual
eroticism gush out.
409
00:16:21,154 --> 00:16:22,464
- [roars]
410
00:16:26,159 --> 00:16:27,899
- The many sides of vampires--
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00:16:27,943 --> 00:16:29,603
the danger and the romance,
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00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,340
the threat and the fun--
413
00:16:31,381 --> 00:16:34,121
were all on full display
in the long-running
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00:16:34,167 --> 00:16:36,387
HBO series "True Blood,"
415
00:16:36,430 --> 00:16:39,090
which debuted in 2008.
416
00:16:39,128 --> 00:16:40,698
- I...
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00:16:40,738 --> 00:16:44,258
never thought I would be
having sex with you.
418
00:16:44,307 --> 00:16:47,137
- Who said anything
about sex?
419
00:16:47,180 --> 00:16:50,140
[foreboding music]
420
00:16:50,183 --> 00:16:52,363
♪
421
00:16:52,402 --> 00:16:55,412
- "True Blood" was based on
the Southern Vampire Mysteries
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00:16:55,449 --> 00:16:57,279
by Charlaine Harris.
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00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,840
Over seven seasons,
the series followed
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00:16:59,888 --> 00:17:02,368
its heroine,
Sookie Stackhouse,
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00:17:02,412 --> 00:17:04,722
as she made her way
through a world
426
00:17:04,762 --> 00:17:07,162
where vampires emerged
from the shadows
427
00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,940
and entered
mainstream society.
428
00:17:09,985 --> 00:17:11,725
♪
429
00:17:11,769 --> 00:17:13,249
- The epicenter
of "True Blood"
430
00:17:13,293 --> 00:17:15,733
is in Louisiana,
431
00:17:15,773 --> 00:17:19,393
and, basically, vampires
have been around forever,
432
00:17:19,429 --> 00:17:21,259
but they kind of come out
of the closet--
433
00:17:21,301 --> 00:17:22,951
or the coffin,
I should say--
434
00:17:22,998 --> 00:17:27,918
and they decide to live
amongst the living.
435
00:17:27,959 --> 00:17:30,529
- As you can see,
I did not burst into flames.
436
00:17:30,571 --> 00:17:32,051
[scattered laughter]
437
00:17:32,094 --> 00:17:34,404
- It becomes a metaphor
for so many
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00:17:34,444 --> 00:17:36,584
different rights movements
439
00:17:36,620 --> 00:17:40,020
and how they're both
ostracized.
440
00:17:40,059 --> 00:17:42,099
When I started
on "True Blood,"
441
00:17:42,148 --> 00:17:44,188
all we knew
about Pam at the beginning
442
00:17:44,237 --> 00:17:47,197
was that she was
the lieutenant
443
00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,200
to this vampire, her maker,
444
00:17:49,242 --> 00:17:51,682
and that she cared
about nothing else.
445
00:17:51,722 --> 00:17:54,122
- I find myself doubting
whether you were ever
446
00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,120
truly human.
447
00:17:56,162 --> 00:17:57,422
- Thank you.
448
00:17:57,467 --> 00:17:59,077
Pam...
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00:17:59,121 --> 00:18:01,211
objectifying,
450
00:18:01,254 --> 00:18:02,524
murdering,
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00:18:02,559 --> 00:18:05,609
literally eating men
452
00:18:05,649 --> 00:18:07,389
was one of
my favorite parts.
453
00:18:07,434 --> 00:18:09,264
[roars]
454
00:18:09,305 --> 00:18:11,435
I don't know a lot of men
455
00:18:11,481 --> 00:18:13,741
who are aware
of where to park
456
00:18:13,788 --> 00:18:16,098
in a parking lot--
not next to a minivan,
457
00:18:16,138 --> 00:18:18,488
to carry your keys
between your fingers;
458
00:18:18,532 --> 00:18:20,322
when you're parking
at the airport,
459
00:18:20,360 --> 00:18:22,620
to look for where
it's most lit.
460
00:18:22,666 --> 00:18:25,056
It's just part
of a woman's life.
461
00:18:25,104 --> 00:18:27,544
To be the top of the food chain
462
00:18:27,584 --> 00:18:29,764
was so refreshing.
463
00:18:29,804 --> 00:18:33,424
I'll give you 24 hours
to deliver that witch to me.
464
00:18:33,460 --> 00:18:36,510
And if you don't,
I will personally eat,
465
00:18:36,550 --> 00:18:39,210
[...], and kill
all three of you.
466
00:18:39,248 --> 00:18:40,948
[tense music]
467
00:18:40,989 --> 00:18:42,469
I was never good
at the vampire teeth,
468
00:18:42,512 --> 00:18:44,042
and I never got better.
- [squeals]
469
00:18:44,079 --> 00:18:45,729
- Huh?
What--what's that?
470
00:18:45,776 --> 00:18:47,816
I-I can't understand you.
471
00:18:47,865 --> 00:18:49,685
- The thing I struggled with
the most was the teeth--
472
00:18:49,737 --> 00:18:51,427
talking with the teeth.
473
00:18:51,478 --> 00:18:53,478
What do you expect
when you come into my house
474
00:18:53,523 --> 00:18:55,003
and [...] with me?
475
00:18:55,046 --> 00:18:56,736
It's hard trying to act
476
00:18:56,787 --> 00:18:59,487
with a piece of your body
that you don't normally have.
477
00:18:59,529 --> 00:19:01,919
- [hisses]
478
00:19:01,966 --> 00:19:04,006
- It's been a long time
since I've done this.
479
00:19:04,055 --> 00:19:06,185
- A man?
- No.
480
00:19:06,232 --> 00:19:07,802
A vampire.
481
00:19:07,842 --> 00:19:10,062
- "True Blood's"
often comic tone
482
00:19:10,105 --> 00:19:12,325
masked its serious intent:
483
00:19:12,368 --> 00:19:14,628
trying to make sense
of sexual identity
484
00:19:14,675 --> 00:19:16,545
in the 21st century.
485
00:19:16,590 --> 00:19:23,120
♪
486
00:19:23,162 --> 00:19:25,902
- My character
was mainly gay...
487
00:19:25,947 --> 00:19:28,687
There's vampire
in your cleavage.
488
00:19:28,732 --> 00:19:29,782
♪
489
00:19:29,820 --> 00:19:32,260
- [gasps]
Okay, ew.
490
00:19:32,301 --> 00:19:34,301
- She just had it with men.
491
00:19:34,347 --> 00:19:37,737
She came from a time--
in early 1900--
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00:19:37,785 --> 00:19:40,175
where women had
a very hard time.
493
00:19:40,222 --> 00:19:41,882
[hollers]
- That's right, whore.
494
00:19:41,919 --> 00:19:44,269
- [screaming]
495
00:19:44,313 --> 00:19:46,663
- Vampires just in general
kind of go both ways.
496
00:19:46,707 --> 00:19:48,137
They're kind of bisexual.
497
00:19:48,187 --> 00:19:50,277
They kind of--whatever,
and so I love
498
00:19:50,319 --> 00:19:52,969
that writers explored sexuality
499
00:19:53,017 --> 00:19:55,187
in relationships
with characters that wouldn't
500
00:19:55,237 --> 00:19:57,937
normally, I think, maybe have
a relationship like that.
501
00:19:57,979 --> 00:20:00,069
- It's appealing because
we live in the United States
502
00:20:00,111 --> 00:20:02,981
and a culture
that is very sexual
503
00:20:03,027 --> 00:20:05,247
and yet very
sexually repressive.
504
00:20:05,291 --> 00:20:09,471
The idea of the vampire
as a kind of sexy monster
505
00:20:09,512 --> 00:20:12,252
fits very well with
the United States' kind of
506
00:20:12,298 --> 00:20:16,738
complicated relationship
to sexuality.
507
00:20:16,780 --> 00:20:19,390
- "True Blood" reflected
America's gradual acceptance
508
00:20:19,435 --> 00:20:21,435
of gay rights,
but it made a point
509
00:20:21,481 --> 00:20:24,051
of showing those rights
could be taken away
510
00:20:24,092 --> 00:20:26,362
at any time.
511
00:20:26,399 --> 00:20:28,229
- Got to season six,
and it was about
512
00:20:28,270 --> 00:20:30,360
the vamp camp
and how the vampires
513
00:20:30,403 --> 00:20:32,843
were sort, of like,
being herded into these camps
514
00:20:32,883 --> 00:20:35,713
because of who they were
and they were a threat.
515
00:20:35,756 --> 00:20:37,536
[vampires hissing]
516
00:20:37,584 --> 00:20:39,414
[all screaming]
517
00:20:39,455 --> 00:20:41,935
And that directly correlates
just to social issues in life,
518
00:20:41,979 --> 00:20:44,329
of just being minorities
in life that sort of
519
00:20:44,373 --> 00:20:46,553
aren't feeling equal.
520
00:20:46,593 --> 00:20:48,253
- So you're not gonna
read me my rights?
521
00:20:48,290 --> 00:20:50,420
- You don't have any rights,
vampire.
522
00:20:50,466 --> 00:20:53,556
- I am sure that
there's a lot of people
523
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,210
in the "True Blood" audience
524
00:20:55,254 --> 00:20:58,434
who would not vote
for equal rights
525
00:20:58,474 --> 00:21:00,614
in a lot of arenas...
- [hiccups]
526
00:21:00,650 --> 00:21:03,390
- But because they were
just being entertained...
527
00:21:03,436 --> 00:21:05,606
- I did not see
that [...] coming.
528
00:21:05,655 --> 00:21:08,135
- That opens the opportunity
529
00:21:08,179 --> 00:21:10,569
through entertainment
to go, "Well,
530
00:21:10,617 --> 00:21:12,487
"you like this character,
531
00:21:12,532 --> 00:21:14,142
"you're rooting for him,
532
00:21:14,185 --> 00:21:16,925
and he sleeps with men
and women."
533
00:21:16,971 --> 00:21:18,581
[both grunt]
534
00:21:18,625 --> 00:21:20,445
- "True Blood"
used the vampire metaphor
535
00:21:20,496 --> 00:21:24,066
to explore the shifting sands
of adult sexuality,
536
00:21:24,108 --> 00:21:27,288
but vampire stories
have also perfectly captured
537
00:21:27,329 --> 00:21:30,379
the joys and agonies
of being a teenager.
538
00:21:30,419 --> 00:21:32,289
- What's happening to me, Star?
539
00:21:35,903 --> 00:21:37,303
[sinister music]
540
00:21:37,339 --> 00:21:38,909
- The teenage years are filled
541
00:21:38,949 --> 00:21:41,519
with big emotions
and raging hormones.
542
00:21:41,561 --> 00:21:43,911
It's a time
when everything seems
543
00:21:43,954 --> 00:21:46,174
like a matter of life
and death.
544
00:21:46,217 --> 00:21:49,307
So when Joel Schumacher's
1987 film
545
00:21:49,351 --> 00:21:52,751
"The Lost Boys" put vampires
and teenagers together,
546
00:21:52,789 --> 00:21:55,579
a new kind of horror film
was born.
547
00:21:55,618 --> 00:21:58,008
- "Lost Boys" was great,
'cause who would imagine
548
00:21:58,055 --> 00:22:00,835
of taking the legend
of Peter Pan,
549
00:22:00,884 --> 00:22:03,284
of the boys who never grow up,
550
00:22:03,322 --> 00:22:05,932
who are just kind of rowdy
rock-and-roll vampires?
551
00:22:05,976 --> 00:22:07,666
[engines roaring]
552
00:22:07,717 --> 00:22:09,547
- The whole thing is set
to this kind of, like,
553
00:22:09,589 --> 00:22:11,939
'80s rock-and-roll thing:
554
00:22:11,982 --> 00:22:16,642
big hair; oiled-up,
shirtless saxophone players.
555
00:22:16,683 --> 00:22:19,083
That's "The Lost Boys."
556
00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:20,770
[dark music]
557
00:22:20,817 --> 00:22:23,117
You've got a family
that moves to this town.
558
00:22:23,167 --> 00:22:27,687
The older son,
A, falls for a girl
559
00:22:27,737 --> 00:22:30,867
and, B, discovers
that the town is overrun
560
00:22:30,914 --> 00:22:33,264
with some very dark things
that are happening.
561
00:22:33,308 --> 00:22:35,698
♪
562
00:22:35,745 --> 00:22:38,005
- You had this incredibly dark,
sexy component
563
00:22:38,052 --> 00:22:41,532
of, like, Kiefer Sutherland
and Jami Gertz.
564
00:22:41,577 --> 00:22:43,617
Like, that was--
they were beautiful.
565
00:22:43,666 --> 00:22:45,576
- I'm over here, Michael.
566
00:22:45,625 --> 00:22:49,015
- So it was sort of, like,
dark, glamorous, sexy...
567
00:22:49,063 --> 00:22:51,673
- Be one of us.
568
00:22:51,718 --> 00:22:54,978
- And it was about kids
saving the day.
569
00:22:55,025 --> 00:22:56,105
- Hey, man.
570
00:22:56,157 --> 00:22:57,587
Read this.
571
00:22:57,637 --> 00:23:00,337
- I told you, I don't like
horror comics.
572
00:23:00,379 --> 00:23:03,079
- Think of it more
as a survival manual.
573
00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:06,250
- We identified with it
because the two kids,
574
00:23:06,297 --> 00:23:08,907
you know, hung out
at a comic book shop,
575
00:23:08,952 --> 00:23:11,042
and they knew every rule
576
00:23:11,085 --> 00:23:13,125
about how to kill monsters.
577
00:23:13,174 --> 00:23:14,654
So that's what we were
all about.
578
00:23:14,697 --> 00:23:16,397
- Awesome monster bashers.
579
00:23:16,438 --> 00:23:18,658
- The meanest.
- The baddest.
580
00:23:18,701 --> 00:23:20,491
[all grunt]
581
00:23:20,529 --> 00:23:22,399
- Well, I-I based them
on Rambo.
582
00:23:22,444 --> 00:23:24,534
I told them, "I want you
to be like little Rambos."
583
00:23:24,577 --> 00:23:26,537
- Okay, where's Nosferatu?
584
00:23:26,579 --> 00:23:28,059
- Who?
- Prince of Darkness.
585
00:23:28,102 --> 00:23:29,542
- The night crawler.
The bloodsucker.
586
00:23:29,582 --> 00:23:30,932
- El vampiro.
587
00:23:30,974 --> 00:23:32,284
- For 13-year-old boys,
588
00:23:32,323 --> 00:23:33,673
I mean, they were obsessed
with it.
589
00:23:33,716 --> 00:23:35,366
[engines revving]
590
00:23:35,414 --> 00:23:37,984
- "The Lost Boys"
was vampire and horror
591
00:23:38,025 --> 00:23:40,455
for the MTV generation,
592
00:23:40,506 --> 00:23:43,156
so the way it was edited,
the way it was scored,
593
00:23:43,204 --> 00:23:45,554
and the whole look
of the vampires.
594
00:23:45,598 --> 00:23:48,858
- I told you to stay off
the boardwalk.
595
00:23:48,905 --> 00:23:50,465
- Even when I was auditioning,
it was like,
596
00:23:50,516 --> 00:23:51,946
"You guys are gonna be
riding Triumphs.
597
00:23:51,995 --> 00:23:53,475
You're gonna have
leather jackets on."
598
00:23:53,519 --> 00:23:55,349
Like, I thought I was gonna die
599
00:23:55,390 --> 00:23:57,480
when I saw what he wanted me
to look like.
600
00:23:57,523 --> 00:23:59,313
- Marko.
601
00:23:59,350 --> 00:24:00,790
- Good night, Michael.
602
00:24:00,830 --> 00:24:01,830
Bombs away.
603
00:24:01,875 --> 00:24:03,045
I was, like, you know,
604
00:24:03,093 --> 00:24:05,103
this scrappy NYU film student
605
00:24:05,139 --> 00:24:06,749
from, like,
the Lower East Side.
606
00:24:06,793 --> 00:24:08,403
I mean, who the hell else
was gonna get me
607
00:24:08,447 --> 00:24:10,407
in 14-inch hair extensions?
608
00:24:10,449 --> 00:24:12,969
But I did--and I wore chaps,
you know?
609
00:24:13,016 --> 00:24:16,146
So that tells you a lot about
wanting to keep Joel happy.
610
00:24:16,193 --> 00:24:17,673
[engines revving]
611
00:24:17,717 --> 00:24:19,017
- [breathing shakily]
612
00:24:19,066 --> 00:24:21,676
- Come on, Michael!
- [grunts]
613
00:24:21,721 --> 00:24:23,941
- I said to everybody
at Warner Brothers,
614
00:24:23,984 --> 00:24:26,124
"Let's not make excuses
for this movie.
615
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,160
It's a teenage vampire film."
616
00:24:28,205 --> 00:24:29,285
- Come on!
617
00:24:29,337 --> 00:24:30,767
- Can we make the best one
618
00:24:30,817 --> 00:24:31,987
that's ever been made?
619
00:24:32,035 --> 00:24:33,515
We can die trying.
620
00:24:33,559 --> 00:24:35,559
- [shouts]
621
00:24:35,604 --> 00:24:37,694
[grunting]
622
00:24:37,737 --> 00:24:39,567
[engine rumbling]
623
00:24:39,608 --> 00:24:42,348
- I think Joel may or may not
kill me for saying this,
624
00:24:42,393 --> 00:24:46,533
but I mean, the movie--
it's "Rebel Without a Cause."
625
00:24:46,572 --> 00:24:48,402
It's really a Nick Ray movie.
626
00:24:48,443 --> 00:24:50,533
[tires squealing]
627
00:24:50,576 --> 00:24:52,316
[engines roaring]
628
00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:54,710
[dramatic music]
629
00:24:54,754 --> 00:24:56,804
It's a straight-up
630
00:24:56,843 --> 00:24:59,243
teen-sploitation,
631
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,980
burgeoning sexuality.
632
00:25:02,022 --> 00:25:04,722
It's death, fear of mortality.
633
00:25:04,764 --> 00:25:06,374
I mean, it gets into
all the things
634
00:25:06,417 --> 00:25:09,157
that great vampire stories
get into.
635
00:25:09,203 --> 00:25:10,333
- They must have hidden
their coffins
636
00:25:10,378 --> 00:25:12,468
around here someplace.
637
00:25:12,511 --> 00:25:14,341
- There's nothing here.
Let's go, guys.
638
00:25:14,382 --> 00:25:17,652
- Jesus!
- [screams]
639
00:25:17,690 --> 00:25:19,910
[dark music]
640
00:25:19,953 --> 00:25:21,913
- I end up getting staked
in the chest
641
00:25:21,955 --> 00:25:23,955
by the two Coreys...
642
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,570
- Good night, bloodsucker.
643
00:25:26,612 --> 00:25:28,142
[hisses]
- No!
644
00:25:28,178 --> 00:25:30,438
- [roars]
[boys screaming]
645
00:25:30,485 --> 00:25:33,485
- And then die in a bath
of glittery glue blood.
646
00:25:33,532 --> 00:25:35,972
[roaring]
[boys screaming]
647
00:25:36,012 --> 00:25:38,452
So that's--to not spoil
all of it for you,
648
00:25:38,493 --> 00:25:39,843
that's basically my demise.
649
00:25:39,886 --> 00:25:41,446
- [hisses]
650
00:25:41,496 --> 00:25:43,406
[pipes gurgling,
sinks rattling]
651
00:25:43,454 --> 00:25:45,764
[both shouting]
652
00:25:45,805 --> 00:25:47,885
[pipes clanging]
653
00:25:47,937 --> 00:25:50,327
All right, not to get
too heavy, but obviously,
654
00:25:50,374 --> 00:25:52,204
there's no way
it was lost on Joel
655
00:25:52,246 --> 00:25:54,726
that the movie was made
in the--in the era of AIDS,
656
00:25:54,770 --> 00:25:56,420
when that was really exploding.
657
00:25:56,467 --> 00:25:58,207
- To date, the AIDS virus
has claimed
658
00:25:58,252 --> 00:26:00,472
over 24,000 lives,
659
00:26:00,515 --> 00:26:02,465
the majority homosexual men.
660
00:26:02,517 --> 00:26:04,647
- The stigmatizing
of the gay population for,
661
00:26:04,693 --> 00:26:06,523
"Well, if you're gonna have
that kind of sex,
662
00:26:06,565 --> 00:26:08,085
then you're gonna die"--
663
00:26:08,131 --> 00:26:10,741
That was very much in the news
and in writing
664
00:26:10,786 --> 00:26:12,566
at the time in the '80s.
- [hisses]
665
00:26:12,614 --> 00:26:13,794
- It's too late.
666
00:26:13,833 --> 00:26:16,713
My blood is in your veins.
667
00:26:16,749 --> 00:26:19,229
- When the AIDS crisis hit,
668
00:26:19,273 --> 00:26:21,413
there was suddenly
this renaissance
669
00:26:21,449 --> 00:26:23,229
of vampire movies.
670
00:26:23,277 --> 00:26:26,587
Vampires are metaphors,
clearly, for sex and death.
671
00:26:26,628 --> 00:26:29,278
- [screams]
672
00:26:29,326 --> 00:26:32,156
- I think it's a good example
of how a real-life trauma,
673
00:26:32,199 --> 00:26:35,379
especially one that seems
uncontrollable,
674
00:26:35,419 --> 00:26:39,549
is responded to by the creation
of horror entertainment.
675
00:26:39,598 --> 00:26:43,378
- [screaming]
676
00:26:43,427 --> 00:26:44,907
- If people just want to see it
677
00:26:44,951 --> 00:26:46,431
as an entertainment,
that's fine.
678
00:26:46,474 --> 00:26:48,084
If they want to read
other things in it,
679
00:26:48,128 --> 00:26:49,428
that's fine.
680
00:26:49,477 --> 00:26:50,997
And if they don't enjoy it,
681
00:26:51,044 --> 00:26:52,834
well, that's a reaction too.
682
00:26:52,872 --> 00:26:55,402
- [spits]
[laughter]
683
00:26:56,353 --> 00:26:59,623
- Vampires remind us
that looks can be deceiving.
684
00:26:59,661 --> 00:27:02,141
We never really know
what lies beneath
685
00:27:02,185 --> 00:27:04,095
the surface of a stranger.
686
00:27:04,144 --> 00:27:05,284
- [distorted voice]
I love you too, Seth.
687
00:27:05,319 --> 00:27:06,359
[roars]
688
00:27:09,976 --> 00:27:12,496
- Back, spawn of Satan!
689
00:27:12,543 --> 00:27:14,633
- [laughing]
690
00:27:14,676 --> 00:27:15,806
[tense music]
691
00:27:15,851 --> 00:27:17,371
- My favorite thing, I think,
692
00:27:17,418 --> 00:27:19,588
about horror and fantasy
and science fiction
693
00:27:19,638 --> 00:27:20,598
is, you can make it up.
694
00:27:20,639 --> 00:27:22,159
It's--there are no rules.
695
00:27:22,205 --> 00:27:25,635
Any genre,
every individual project,
696
00:27:25,687 --> 00:27:28,167
you have to invent
your own rules,
697
00:27:28,211 --> 00:27:31,691
so in some movies, vampires
can't be seen in a mirror.
698
00:27:31,737 --> 00:27:34,697
In other movies, they have
to be killed with silver.
699
00:27:34,740 --> 00:27:36,790
[flesh sizzling]
700
00:27:36,829 --> 00:27:38,609
- What about crucifixes?
701
00:27:38,657 --> 00:27:41,527
- Actually, I'm quite fond
of looking at crucifixes.
702
00:27:41,572 --> 00:27:43,792
- How about the old
stake-through-the-heart thing?
703
00:27:43,836 --> 00:27:46,316
- The vulgar fictions
of a demented Irishman.
704
00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:47,930
- You can follow the rules
of the genre
705
00:27:47,970 --> 00:27:49,800
that have been placed down
by other movies
706
00:27:49,842 --> 00:27:51,892
or other stories, or you can
kind of come up with your own.
707
00:27:51,931 --> 00:27:54,281
[man singing in Spanish]
708
00:27:54,324 --> 00:27:56,374
[rousing rock music playing]
709
00:27:56,413 --> 00:27:57,943
- This is my kind of place.
710
00:27:57,980 --> 00:27:59,720
- In "From Dusk Till Dawn,"
711
00:27:59,765 --> 00:28:02,155
two violent criminals
take refuge
712
00:28:02,202 --> 00:28:04,732
in a Mexican strip club.
713
00:28:04,770 --> 00:28:06,770
[sultry music]
714
00:28:06,815 --> 00:28:09,595
The main attraction
turns out to be the queen
715
00:28:09,644 --> 00:28:11,214
of the vampires.
- [grunts]
716
00:28:11,254 --> 00:28:13,004
- [screams]
717
00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:14,909
♪
718
00:28:14,954 --> 00:28:16,914
[skin crinkling]
719
00:28:16,956 --> 00:28:18,776
[roars]
720
00:28:18,827 --> 00:28:19,997
[dramatic music]
721
00:28:20,046 --> 00:28:22,046
- [screams]
- Dinner...
722
00:28:22,091 --> 00:28:23,751
[distorted voice]
Is served.
723
00:28:23,789 --> 00:28:25,569
[screeches]
724
00:28:25,616 --> 00:28:27,746
- I love the vampire makeup
in "Dusk Till Dawn."
725
00:28:27,793 --> 00:28:30,233
That, for me, was one
of the coolest reinventions.
726
00:28:30,273 --> 00:28:32,153
[man shouts]
727
00:28:32,188 --> 00:28:34,498
- Robert Kurtzman came up with
the original treatment of it.
728
00:28:34,538 --> 00:28:36,758
His vampires did kind of point
729
00:28:36,802 --> 00:28:39,022
in this weird direction
730
00:28:39,065 --> 00:28:41,805
that I had never
quite seen before
731
00:28:41,850 --> 00:28:43,500
for vampires.
732
00:28:43,547 --> 00:28:45,197
They could take on
the shapes of humans,
733
00:28:45,245 --> 00:28:47,805
like they do
in the Danny Trejo character,
734
00:28:47,856 --> 00:28:49,766
but their true selves
735
00:28:49,815 --> 00:28:52,945
were these bat-like creatures.
736
00:28:52,992 --> 00:28:54,602
- [growls]
- [screams]
737
00:28:54,645 --> 00:28:56,865
- [hisses]
738
00:28:56,909 --> 00:28:58,649
- [roars]
- I-I came up with
739
00:28:58,693 --> 00:29:02,263
a few mythology things
that would be specific
740
00:29:02,305 --> 00:29:04,475
to these creatures.
741
00:29:04,525 --> 00:29:07,435
One was, okay, yeah, they could
definitely be killed
742
00:29:07,484 --> 00:29:09,314
by a wooden stake
to the heart.
743
00:29:09,356 --> 00:29:11,786
That still worked.
744
00:29:11,837 --> 00:29:13,797
Their blood was green...
- [hollers]
745
00:29:13,839 --> 00:29:16,279
- And the reason I made
their blood green
746
00:29:16,319 --> 00:29:18,799
is because I knew
there would be vampire blood
747
00:29:18,844 --> 00:29:21,284
all over the place,
and it would be
748
00:29:21,324 --> 00:29:23,944
the color red, in particular,
that would get you an X.
749
00:29:23,979 --> 00:29:25,849
- NC-17.
- Yeah, an NC-17.
750
00:29:25,894 --> 00:29:28,814
So if we made
the vampire blood green...
751
00:29:28,854 --> 00:29:30,514
- You could spray it
all over the place.
752
00:29:30,551 --> 00:29:32,381
- We could spray it
all over the place,
753
00:29:32,422 --> 00:29:34,822
and then the MPAA wouldn't be
so freaked out by that.
754
00:29:34,860 --> 00:29:37,040
And that ended up
actually working.
755
00:29:37,079 --> 00:29:39,469
- [roars]
756
00:29:39,516 --> 00:29:41,126
[flesh hissing]
757
00:29:41,170 --> 00:29:43,830
- "From Dusk Till Dawn"
reinvented vampires
758
00:29:43,869 --> 00:29:46,349
as nightmarish creatures
that used sex
759
00:29:46,393 --> 00:29:49,003
to lure in their victims.
760
00:29:49,048 --> 00:29:50,788
[sinister music]
761
00:29:50,832 --> 00:29:53,182
The horror masterpiece
"Let the Right One In"
762
00:29:53,226 --> 00:29:55,316
is another
brilliant reinvention.
763
00:29:55,358 --> 00:29:57,318
♪
764
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,150
The vampire here lives within
765
00:29:59,188 --> 00:30:02,098
the classic boundaries
of only going out at night
766
00:30:02,148 --> 00:30:04,498
and viciously feeding
on humans.
767
00:30:04,541 --> 00:30:06,331
[body thuds]
768
00:30:06,369 --> 00:30:08,809
But this is not a story
about sex.
769
00:30:08,850 --> 00:30:10,500
It's about love and how much
770
00:30:10,547 --> 00:30:13,117
we are willing to accept
in the name of love.
771
00:30:13,159 --> 00:30:16,949
♪
772
00:30:16,989 --> 00:30:20,169
- "Let the Right One In"
is about a boy called Oskar
773
00:30:20,209 --> 00:30:22,469
who is getting bullied
in school
774
00:30:22,516 --> 00:30:25,206
and is a bit lonely.
775
00:30:25,258 --> 00:30:28,518
And one day, he meets a girl
called Eli,
776
00:30:28,565 --> 00:30:30,785
and then they became friends.
777
00:30:30,829 --> 00:30:32,869
♪
778
00:30:32,918 --> 00:30:34,618
What's special about
my character, Eli,
779
00:30:34,658 --> 00:30:37,048
first of all
is that she's a vampire.
780
00:30:37,096 --> 00:30:38,706
[eerie music]
781
00:30:38,749 --> 00:30:40,529
She has lived
for a very long time.
782
00:30:40,577 --> 00:30:43,447
♪
783
00:30:43,493 --> 00:30:46,193
They cut off my lashes
and my eyebrows
784
00:30:46,235 --> 00:30:47,975
to not make me so female,
785
00:30:48,020 --> 00:30:50,370
and it's also not my voice
in the film.
786
00:30:50,413 --> 00:30:52,633
They wanted a voice
that wasn't so feminine.
787
00:30:52,676 --> 00:30:57,116
[speaking Swedish]
788
00:30:57,159 --> 00:30:58,899
Vampires could be, like--
789
00:30:58,944 --> 00:31:01,034
they're, like, sexy
or dangerous
790
00:31:01,076 --> 00:31:02,896
or something like that,
and she's, like,
791
00:31:02,948 --> 00:31:04,988
the opposite, I think.
792
00:31:05,037 --> 00:31:06,907
- Once you realize
who this girl is
793
00:31:06,952 --> 00:31:08,692
and how long
she's been around and--
794
00:31:08,736 --> 00:31:11,476
then it's very haunting
in the sense that, you know,
795
00:31:11,521 --> 00:31:13,521
she's taken on this kid
as her companion.
796
00:31:13,567 --> 00:31:15,437
And we already know
what's gonna happen to him.
797
00:31:15,482 --> 00:31:20,492
♪
798
00:31:20,530 --> 00:31:24,230
- Probably the scariest
and most powerful sequence
799
00:31:24,273 --> 00:31:26,193
in modern horror
800
00:31:26,232 --> 00:31:30,322
is the final sequence
in "Let the Right One In."
801
00:31:31,237 --> 00:31:34,107
A gang of bullies sees
802
00:31:34,153 --> 00:31:36,293
a very vulnerable child
803
00:31:36,329 --> 00:31:38,639
and shove him underwater.
804
00:31:38,679 --> 00:31:41,549
And there is
a 2 1/2 minute shot
805
00:31:41,595 --> 00:31:43,985
of the boy's head
being held underwater,
806
00:31:44,032 --> 00:31:45,642
and you're seeing him
desperately trying
807
00:31:45,686 --> 00:31:48,596
to get back to the surface
and breathe.
808
00:31:48,645 --> 00:31:50,125
♪
809
00:31:50,169 --> 00:31:52,909
But meanwhile,
above the water...
810
00:31:52,954 --> 00:31:54,564
[sinister music]
811
00:31:54,608 --> 00:31:56,518
This pipsqueak vampire,
812
00:31:56,566 --> 00:31:59,306
who loves the little boy,
has turned up...
813
00:31:59,352 --> 00:32:00,832
♪
814
00:32:00,875 --> 00:32:04,005
And is beginning
to butcher the bullies.
815
00:32:04,052 --> 00:32:06,532
[muffled splash]
816
00:32:06,576 --> 00:32:08,056
♪
817
00:32:08,100 --> 00:32:10,060
- What was beautiful
about that story
818
00:32:10,102 --> 00:32:14,152
is that a monster
comes to the rescue
819
00:32:14,193 --> 00:32:17,243
when humanity fails
this young man,
820
00:32:17,283 --> 00:32:20,373
and who could blame him
for choosing the monster
821
00:32:20,416 --> 00:32:22,326
when humanity was so horrible?
822
00:32:24,029 --> 00:32:26,119
The title has
a double meaning.
823
00:32:26,161 --> 00:32:27,861
It could mean
that you should let
824
00:32:27,902 --> 00:32:30,432
the right person
get into your life,
825
00:32:30,470 --> 00:32:32,600
or, as it is for Eli,
826
00:32:32,646 --> 00:32:35,476
someone has to tell her
that she can come in.
827
00:32:41,611 --> 00:32:44,571
[tense music]
828
00:32:44,614 --> 00:32:49,624
♪
829
00:32:54,146 --> 00:32:57,576
- For me, the part
of the vampire legend
830
00:32:57,627 --> 00:32:59,457
that has always remained
really powerful
831
00:32:59,499 --> 00:33:02,679
is this idea that they have
to be invited in.
832
00:33:02,719 --> 00:33:04,419
[scratching on glass]
833
00:33:04,460 --> 00:33:07,160
- Open the window, Mark.
834
00:33:07,202 --> 00:33:09,602
- [mimicking scratching]
"Let me in.
835
00:33:09,639 --> 00:33:11,419
Let me in."
836
00:33:11,467 --> 00:33:12,987
- Let me in.
837
00:33:13,034 --> 00:33:14,434
It's okay, Mark.
I'm your friend.
838
00:33:14,470 --> 00:33:16,690
- So many times
in people's lives,
839
00:33:16,733 --> 00:33:18,653
you know,
whatever that thing is
840
00:33:18,692 --> 00:33:21,222
that's draining them
of their life and vitality,
841
00:33:21,260 --> 00:33:23,090
so often, they invited it in...
842
00:33:23,131 --> 00:33:24,481
♪
843
00:33:24,524 --> 00:33:26,054
If it's drugs,
if it's alcohol,
844
00:33:26,091 --> 00:33:28,441
if it's someone
who's just abusive,
845
00:33:28,484 --> 00:33:30,664
you know, who's cruel to you.
846
00:33:30,704 --> 00:33:32,714
A lot of vampire stories
847
00:33:32,749 --> 00:33:35,009
are about
inviting in something
848
00:33:35,056 --> 00:33:36,446
that you think
will bring you bliss...
849
00:33:36,492 --> 00:33:38,362
- What's wrong, baby?
850
00:33:38,407 --> 00:33:40,107
- And that destroys you
instead.
851
00:33:46,111 --> 00:33:47,901
- Do you think,
with your crosses
852
00:33:47,938 --> 00:33:50,548
and your wafers,
you can destroy me?
853
00:33:50,593 --> 00:33:52,473
Me?
854
00:33:52,508 --> 00:33:55,688
- Traditionally, vampires
have split personalities.
855
00:33:55,729 --> 00:33:58,509
They're both charming
and terrifying,
856
00:33:58,558 --> 00:34:00,688
passionate and deadly.
857
00:34:00,734 --> 00:34:02,434
But in the 21st century,
858
00:34:02,475 --> 00:34:04,775
we've seen
the two halves separate
859
00:34:04,825 --> 00:34:06,605
into the vampire
as monstrous killer...
860
00:34:06,653 --> 00:34:08,223
- [snarls]
- [whimpers]
861
00:34:08,263 --> 00:34:10,573
- And the vampire
as dreamboat boyfriend.
862
00:34:10,613 --> 00:34:11,923
[dark music]
863
00:34:11,962 --> 00:34:14,232
Vampires, ever flexible,
864
00:34:14,269 --> 00:34:16,659
are being reshaped
to suit audiences
865
00:34:16,706 --> 00:34:20,146
whose needs
are often overlooked,
866
00:34:20,188 --> 00:34:22,888
like the millions of women
and teenage girls
867
00:34:22,930 --> 00:34:25,930
who made "Twilight" the most
commercially successful
868
00:34:25,976 --> 00:34:28,716
vampire film of all time.
869
00:34:28,762 --> 00:34:30,292
- [gasps]
870
00:34:30,329 --> 00:34:33,289
[intimate music]
871
00:34:33,332 --> 00:34:39,822
♪
872
00:34:39,860 --> 00:34:41,690
Based on
the best-selling books
873
00:34:41,731 --> 00:34:44,081
by Stephenie Meyer,
"Twilight" reimagines
874
00:34:44,125 --> 00:34:46,735
the vampire story
as a teen romance
875
00:34:46,780 --> 00:34:50,260
told from a young woman's
point of view.
876
00:34:50,305 --> 00:34:52,345
- The thing that's
kind of cool about "Twilight"
877
00:34:52,394 --> 00:34:55,014
is, you have an ordinary girl
that moves
878
00:34:55,049 --> 00:34:57,569
to this small town
in Washington.
879
00:34:57,617 --> 00:35:00,787
She has to live with her dad
for a while.
880
00:35:00,837 --> 00:35:03,797
She feels like a misfit,
awkward.
881
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,320
And first day of school,
882
00:35:05,364 --> 00:35:08,894
she is kind of attracted
to this amazing
883
00:35:08,932 --> 00:35:11,942
and strange kid, Edward.
884
00:35:11,979 --> 00:35:14,499
Stephenie Meyer,
she had a dream
885
00:35:14,547 --> 00:35:16,157
about this vampire.
886
00:35:16,201 --> 00:35:18,941
When the vampire was out
in the sunlight,
887
00:35:18,986 --> 00:35:22,466
instead of withering,
it did the opposite.
888
00:35:22,511 --> 00:35:25,861
It glowed and glittered
and sparkled.
889
00:35:25,906 --> 00:35:27,686
- This is what I am.
890
00:35:27,734 --> 00:35:29,614
[mystical music]
891
00:35:29,649 --> 00:35:31,829
- Well, my vampires
break a lot of the rules--
892
00:35:31,868 --> 00:35:34,178
if there can really be rules
about fictional characters.
893
00:35:34,219 --> 00:35:35,829
Really, you can do
what you want.
894
00:35:35,872 --> 00:35:38,052
- Obviously it's a fantasy...
[laughing]
895
00:35:38,092 --> 00:35:40,182
That you're gonna have
the most handsome,
896
00:35:40,225 --> 00:35:42,175
beautiful, amazing guy
in the world
897
00:35:42,227 --> 00:35:44,877
that's madly in love with you
and will take care of you
898
00:35:44,925 --> 00:35:46,265
and protect you.
899
00:35:46,318 --> 00:35:48,188
[tires squealing]
900
00:35:48,233 --> 00:35:50,023
- [gasps]
- [grunts]
901
00:35:50,060 --> 00:35:52,720
- I mean,
it's a great fantasy.
902
00:35:52,759 --> 00:35:54,589
- It's not,
"We shouldn't kiss
903
00:35:54,630 --> 00:35:56,720
"because maybe won't
like each other
904
00:35:56,763 --> 00:35:59,163
or maybe we're gonna make
someone else upset."
905
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,030
You're adding this element of,
906
00:36:01,071 --> 00:36:04,251
"If I lose control,
I might kill you,"
907
00:36:04,292 --> 00:36:06,642
which is so dark
and so dramatic,
908
00:36:06,686 --> 00:36:09,596
but at the same time,
that's what it feels like
909
00:36:09,645 --> 00:36:10,815
when you're young.
910
00:36:10,864 --> 00:36:12,344
It feels like life and death.
911
00:36:12,387 --> 00:36:14,477
- Just stay very still.
912
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,350
- I really thought it was
a fantastic challenge
913
00:36:17,392 --> 00:36:20,312
to create that
emotional intoxication
914
00:36:20,352 --> 00:36:22,622
of first love.
- Don't move.
915
00:36:22,658 --> 00:36:24,308
[intimate music]
916
00:36:24,356 --> 00:36:27,486
- I thought, "Can I show that
on-screen?
917
00:36:27,533 --> 00:36:29,583
"Can I make people as crazy
918
00:36:29,622 --> 00:36:31,412
"about a cinematic version
919
00:36:31,450 --> 00:36:34,190
as the book
made people crazy?"
920
00:36:34,235 --> 00:36:36,665
♪
921
00:36:36,716 --> 00:36:38,066
And yeah, I think we did
922
00:36:38,108 --> 00:36:39,978
make them pretty crazy.
[laughing]
923
00:36:40,023 --> 00:36:43,073
[crowd screaming]
924
00:36:44,506 --> 00:36:48,416
- You can't dismiss something
that had such a giant hold on--
925
00:36:48,467 --> 00:36:50,507
on fandom.
926
00:36:50,556 --> 00:36:53,116
I remember going
to Comic-Con a few years back
927
00:36:53,167 --> 00:36:54,597
when the second
"Twilight" movie
928
00:36:54,647 --> 00:36:56,817
was coming out,
and kids were camped out
929
00:36:56,866 --> 00:36:58,956
on the lawn for 24 hours.
930
00:36:58,999 --> 00:37:01,959
So obviously,
it had something to say.
931
00:37:02,002 --> 00:37:03,702
♪
932
00:37:03,743 --> 00:37:05,833
- You don't know how long
I've waited for you.
933
00:37:05,875 --> 00:37:08,785
- I honestly find its gender
and sexual politics
934
00:37:08,835 --> 00:37:12,095
pretty problematic,
but that being said,
935
00:37:12,142 --> 00:37:13,882
I think it takes
936
00:37:13,927 --> 00:37:16,277
women's desires seriously
937
00:37:16,321 --> 00:37:20,061
in a way that most
Hollywood cinema does not,
938
00:37:20,107 --> 00:37:22,277
most popular culture
in general does not.
939
00:37:22,327 --> 00:37:25,197
The focus is more
on her desire for Edward,
940
00:37:25,243 --> 00:37:26,723
on her attraction
to Edward
941
00:37:26,766 --> 00:37:28,936
and at some points Jacob.
942
00:37:28,985 --> 00:37:31,375
It's not about them
lusting after her.
943
00:37:31,423 --> 00:37:32,953
[soft music]
944
00:37:32,989 --> 00:37:35,469
[chimes tinkling]
945
00:37:35,514 --> 00:37:38,174
- There was a photo
of one kid at Comic-Con
946
00:37:38,212 --> 00:37:39,562
when "Twilight" came out--
there was, like,
947
00:37:39,605 --> 00:37:41,605
some angry kid
with a huge placard that said,
948
00:37:41,650 --> 00:37:43,780
"Nosferatu didn't sparkle."
- Yeah.
949
00:37:43,826 --> 00:37:46,086
- And I was like, "That's me.
I'm that kid."
950
00:37:46,133 --> 00:37:47,793
- The whole vampire idea,
951
00:37:47,830 --> 00:37:50,880
the romantic vampire,
has always been popular
952
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,570
with teens,
953
00:37:52,618 --> 00:37:54,838
early 20s and things--
particularly women--
954
00:37:54,881 --> 00:37:57,801
because it's seen
as almost, like,
955
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,450
no-fault sex.
956
00:37:59,494 --> 00:38:01,284
And after all,
what's he really gonna do?
957
00:38:01,322 --> 00:38:03,062
He's gonna give you
a great big hickey,
958
00:38:03,106 --> 00:38:04,716
like on Lover's Lane.
959
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,280
[dark music]
960
00:38:06,327 --> 00:38:08,897
But that's not the way
it's supposed to--to be.
961
00:38:08,938 --> 00:38:12,288
To my mind,
I'm a classicist, man.
962
00:38:12,333 --> 00:38:14,773
- [growling]
963
00:38:14,814 --> 00:38:17,124
- [hissing]
- Hey! Stop!
964
00:38:17,164 --> 00:38:19,174
- [hissing]
- Who are you people?
965
00:38:19,209 --> 00:38:20,599
- [screeches]
- [grunts]
966
00:38:20,646 --> 00:38:22,596
[screams]
- [screeches]
967
00:38:22,648 --> 00:38:25,298
- "30 Days of Night"
took vampires back
968
00:38:25,346 --> 00:38:27,696
to their dark
and vicious roots.
969
00:38:27,740 --> 00:38:30,740
There are no sparkling,
romantic demigods here...
970
00:38:30,786 --> 00:38:32,696
- [screams]
- Just ancient
971
00:38:32,745 --> 00:38:36,135
evil predators.
[vampires screeching]
972
00:38:36,183 --> 00:38:37,753
[sinister music]
973
00:38:37,793 --> 00:38:41,103
- Well, in "30 Days of Night,"
my character is--
974
00:38:41,144 --> 00:38:44,674
is a sheriff
up in Barrow, Alaska.
975
00:38:44,713 --> 00:38:46,373
And in Barrow, Alaska,
976
00:38:46,411 --> 00:38:48,761
apparently, the sun is down
977
00:38:48,804 --> 00:38:50,854
for almost a month
in the middle of winter.
978
00:38:50,893 --> 00:38:52,633
Hence the "30 Days of Night"
title.
979
00:38:52,678 --> 00:38:55,548
♪
980
00:38:55,594 --> 00:38:57,604
Vampires have figured out
that this is
981
00:38:57,639 --> 00:39:00,379
a really good place to go
and have a low-effort meal.
982
00:39:00,425 --> 00:39:01,985
We have to cut off,
or they'll hear you.
983
00:39:02,035 --> 00:39:04,335
The vampires close in
on the town...
984
00:39:04,385 --> 00:39:06,165
I'll call you back
when it's safe.
985
00:39:06,213 --> 00:39:08,693
And then the rest of us
who are there
986
00:39:08,737 --> 00:39:10,907
try to survive for a month.
987
00:39:10,957 --> 00:39:12,177
[loud bang]
- [gasps]
988
00:39:12,219 --> 00:39:13,309
- Jesus!
989
00:39:13,351 --> 00:39:15,351
Christ!
[banging]
990
00:39:15,396 --> 00:39:17,306
[engine revving]
991
00:39:17,355 --> 00:39:19,225
- [yelps]
- [screeches]
992
00:39:19,269 --> 00:39:21,619
- We spend a lot of time
running away.
993
00:39:21,663 --> 00:39:23,323
[laughs]
994
00:39:23,361 --> 00:39:25,541
- David Slade's
"30 Days of Night"--
995
00:39:25,580 --> 00:39:27,060
which was written
by Steve Niles
996
00:39:27,103 --> 00:39:28,453
and based on
the graphic novel--
997
00:39:28,496 --> 00:39:30,146
that was
the complete antithesis
998
00:39:30,193 --> 00:39:31,853
of what "Twilight" represented.
999
00:39:31,891 --> 00:39:33,551
- [hissing]
1000
00:39:33,588 --> 00:39:35,328
[suspenseful music]
1001
00:39:35,373 --> 00:39:36,983
- With "Twilight,"
1002
00:39:37,026 --> 00:39:38,806
there was always
this friendly side.
1003
00:39:38,854 --> 00:39:40,774
They always managed to find,
like, a friendly human side
1004
00:39:40,813 --> 00:39:42,903
to the vampires.
1005
00:39:42,945 --> 00:39:45,115
When I was doing the scripts
for "30 Days of Night,"
1006
00:39:45,165 --> 00:39:48,295
I really tried to go against
what everybody else was doing.
1007
00:39:48,342 --> 00:39:49,952
- [growls]
1008
00:39:49,996 --> 00:39:53,426
- You had vampires returning
to their feral form,
1009
00:39:53,478 --> 00:39:54,868
almost Nosferatu-like
1010
00:39:54,914 --> 00:39:57,264
but something
completely different.
1011
00:39:57,307 --> 00:39:58,657
- [screeches]
- [hollers]
1012
00:39:58,700 --> 00:40:01,360
[screams]
- These are land sharks
1013
00:40:01,399 --> 00:40:04,449
that will kill you, you know,
just as soon as look at you.
1014
00:40:04,489 --> 00:40:06,709
[sinister music]
1015
00:40:06,752 --> 00:40:09,322
- [screeches]
- By stripping the sexuality
1016
00:40:09,363 --> 00:40:11,763
out of the myth,
"30 Days of Night"
1017
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,060
drilled deep
into the primal fear
1018
00:40:14,107 --> 00:40:17,197
at the heart of every
vampire story:
1019
00:40:17,240 --> 00:40:19,720
the fear of death.
- [roars]
1020
00:40:19,765 --> 00:40:22,115
[dramatic music]
1021
00:40:22,158 --> 00:40:24,068
- One of the most
beautiful things about
1022
00:40:24,117 --> 00:40:26,507
the horror genre
is that the stakes
1023
00:40:26,554 --> 00:40:28,254
are implicitly high,
1024
00:40:28,295 --> 00:40:30,115
because you're dealing
with life and death.
1025
00:40:30,166 --> 00:40:32,206
- [hollering]
1026
00:40:32,255 --> 00:40:34,905
- And that gives horror
1027
00:40:34,954 --> 00:40:37,484
a certain operatic quality
to it,
1028
00:40:37,522 --> 00:40:39,702
where there is no choice
1029
00:40:39,741 --> 00:40:42,351
but to survive and thrive
1030
00:40:42,396 --> 00:40:44,566
or be one of the body count.
1031
00:40:44,616 --> 00:40:46,266
♪
1032
00:40:46,313 --> 00:40:47,793
- [croaking]
- [screams]
1033
00:40:47,836 --> 00:40:50,666
- Ultimately, the story
of the vampire
1034
00:40:50,709 --> 00:40:53,279
is the story
of our tenuous grip on life.
1035
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,060
- I don't want to die.
- [screams]
1036
00:40:55,104 --> 00:40:57,374
- The bite of the vampire
symbolizes
1037
00:40:57,411 --> 00:40:59,591
the hundreds of things
that could kill us
1038
00:40:59,631 --> 00:41:02,241
at any time,
no matter how healthy or safe
1039
00:41:02,285 --> 00:41:03,765
we think we are.
1040
00:41:03,809 --> 00:41:05,419
- [screeches]
1041
00:41:05,463 --> 00:41:08,033
- Your life force
will never be
1042
00:41:08,074 --> 00:41:11,904
steadily drained
by an implacable
1043
00:41:11,947 --> 00:41:13,467
supernatural foe.
1044
00:41:13,514 --> 00:41:15,474
[eerie music]
1045
00:41:15,516 --> 00:41:17,036
But some people
1046
00:41:17,083 --> 00:41:19,133
will face cancer
1047
00:41:19,172 --> 00:41:20,872
in their life.
1048
00:41:20,913 --> 00:41:22,523
- [screams]
- Fiction gives us
1049
00:41:22,567 --> 00:41:25,527
a safe playground
to consider
1050
00:41:25,570 --> 00:41:27,440
what it would be like
to be in
1051
00:41:27,485 --> 00:41:29,135
a life-or-death battle
with something draining us.
1052
00:41:29,182 --> 00:41:35,882
♪
1053
00:41:35,928 --> 00:41:38,758
Vampire stories
will remain powerful
1054
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,590
as long as we are organic
1055
00:41:41,629 --> 00:41:43,499
and full of blood.
1056
00:41:43,544 --> 00:41:47,114
And the blood
can be corrupted.
1057
00:41:47,156 --> 00:41:49,936
- [gasps]
- So I think the fanged ones
1058
00:41:49,985 --> 00:41:51,675
will be around
for a while longer.
1059
00:41:51,726 --> 00:41:54,206
[vampires hissing, growling]
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