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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:12,490 --> 00:00:14,970 - Vampires are about sex and death. 2 00:00:15,015 --> 00:00:17,925 When the vampire bites... 3 00:00:17,974 --> 00:00:18,934 [women gasping] 4 00:00:18,975 --> 00:00:20,585 Women swoon... 5 00:00:20,629 --> 00:00:22,369 - [gasps] 6 00:00:22,413 --> 00:00:25,033 - They're dangerous because they're seductive. 7 00:00:25,068 --> 00:00:26,938 What is seductive 8 00:00:26,983 --> 00:00:28,813 is often bad for us, 9 00:00:28,854 --> 00:00:30,424 is often dangerous. 10 00:00:30,465 --> 00:00:32,205 [skin crinkling] 11 00:00:32,249 --> 00:00:34,509 - [roars] - [hisses] 12 00:00:34,556 --> 00:00:36,506 - It's not brutality for the sake 13 00:00:36,558 --> 00:00:37,688 of being brutal. 14 00:00:37,733 --> 00:00:39,263 It's survival. 15 00:00:39,300 --> 00:00:40,340 [rat squeaking] 16 00:00:40,388 --> 00:00:42,428 - [screams] 17 00:00:42,477 --> 00:00:45,127 - They are a drug addict, 18 00:00:45,175 --> 00:00:46,865 a historian, 19 00:00:46,916 --> 00:00:48,136 a serial killer, 20 00:00:48,178 --> 00:00:50,178 a hopeless romantic 21 00:00:50,224 --> 00:00:51,924 all at the same time. 22 00:00:51,964 --> 00:00:53,364 - [screeches] 23 00:00:53,401 --> 00:00:55,531 - It deals with the exchange of fluids. 24 00:00:55,577 --> 00:00:56,797 It deals with blood. 25 00:00:56,839 --> 00:00:58,099 - It's too late. 26 00:00:58,145 --> 00:01:01,095 My blood is in your veins. 27 00:01:01,148 --> 00:01:03,238 - Vampires are supposed to be awful-- 28 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,810 the stink of the grave, his fetid breath. 29 00:01:06,849 --> 00:01:09,459 It was supposed to be ugly and nasty. 30 00:01:09,504 --> 00:01:11,464 - [croaking] - [screams] 31 00:01:11,506 --> 00:01:12,766 - And then there was "Twilight." 32 00:01:12,811 --> 00:01:14,901 [dark music] 33 00:01:14,944 --> 00:01:17,164 - What's good about a "Twilight" movie is, 34 00:01:17,207 --> 00:01:18,637 it makes everybody who watches it 35 00:01:18,687 --> 00:01:20,297 feel like a 13-year-old girl. 36 00:01:20,341 --> 00:01:21,991 - Vampires are the only ones 37 00:01:22,038 --> 00:01:23,778 that you can really make sexy and beautiful. 38 00:01:23,822 --> 00:01:25,652 - [breathing heavily] - We are immortal. 39 00:01:25,694 --> 00:01:28,744 - They've always been-- since Anne Rice, anyway-- 40 00:01:28,784 --> 00:01:31,484 allowed to be gay or bisexual. 41 00:01:31,526 --> 00:01:33,956 - This idea of... - Do you wanna do me now? 42 00:01:34,006 --> 00:01:35,436 - The taboo... - [hollering] 43 00:01:35,486 --> 00:01:37,136 - [growling] - Darkness. 44 00:01:37,184 --> 00:01:38,794 - And, you know, if you're gonna tangle 45 00:01:38,837 --> 00:01:40,187 with the darkness-- with the sexuality 46 00:01:40,230 --> 00:01:41,840 and all of that... - [screams] 47 00:01:41,884 --> 00:01:43,934 - Well, death is all around you. 48 00:01:43,973 --> 00:01:47,763 [vampires screeching] 49 00:01:47,803 --> 00:01:50,763 [sinister music] 50 00:01:50,806 --> 00:01:57,856 ♪ 51 00:02:08,084 --> 00:02:10,524 [chain saw revs] 52 00:02:14,830 --> 00:02:17,490 [foreboding music] 53 00:02:17,528 --> 00:02:20,138 - Naughty little girl. 54 00:02:20,183 --> 00:02:22,753 - [screams] - Over the last 25 years, 55 00:02:22,794 --> 00:02:26,764 we've seen an explosion of vampire stories. 56 00:02:26,798 --> 00:02:28,188 ♪ 57 00:02:28,235 --> 00:02:30,315 - [hisses] - [growls] 58 00:02:30,367 --> 00:02:32,627 - You're wrong. - "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" 59 00:02:32,674 --> 00:02:34,334 gave us bloodsucking bad boys 60 00:02:34,371 --> 00:02:37,511 the heroine both detested and desired. 61 00:02:37,548 --> 00:02:40,288 "Underworld" and "Blade" 62 00:02:40,334 --> 00:02:43,034 recast vampires as action heroes. 63 00:02:43,075 --> 00:02:45,075 [dramatic music] 64 00:02:45,121 --> 00:02:46,381 - [growls] 65 00:02:46,427 --> 00:02:47,947 - Art-horror films like 66 00:02:47,993 --> 00:02:50,303 "A Girl Walks Home Alone At Night" 67 00:02:50,344 --> 00:02:53,134 and "The Addiction" used vampires to tell 68 00:02:53,173 --> 00:02:56,523 allegorical tales about drug abuse. 69 00:02:56,567 --> 00:02:58,827 The "Twilight" books and films doubled down 70 00:02:58,874 --> 00:03:00,704 on vampire romance... 71 00:03:00,745 --> 00:03:03,005 - [breathing heavily] - While sex and splatter 72 00:03:03,052 --> 00:03:06,232 dominated the teen drama "The Vampire Diaries" 73 00:03:06,273 --> 00:03:10,283 and the very adult series "True Blood." 74 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,800 Modern vampires come in many guises, 75 00:03:12,844 --> 00:03:16,634 but they all address a singular hunger. 76 00:03:16,674 --> 00:03:18,894 - It's bringing together the two things 77 00:03:18,937 --> 00:03:21,067 that media culture seems to love the most: 78 00:03:21,113 --> 00:03:22,383 sex and violence. 79 00:03:22,419 --> 00:03:24,509 You know, it allows them to coexist 80 00:03:24,552 --> 00:03:26,992 in one figure. 81 00:03:27,032 --> 00:03:30,252 - Vampires have been violent avatars of the erotic 82 00:03:30,297 --> 00:03:32,517 going all the way back to the king daddy 83 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,300 of bloodsuckers. 84 00:03:34,344 --> 00:03:35,744 [dramatic music] 85 00:03:35,780 --> 00:03:37,910 - I am Dracula. 86 00:03:37,956 --> 00:03:40,046 - I am Dracula. - I... 87 00:03:40,089 --> 00:03:42,179 am Dracula. 88 00:03:42,222 --> 00:03:43,792 [wood creaking] 89 00:03:43,832 --> 00:03:47,532 - Created in 1897 by novelist Bram Stoker, 90 00:03:47,575 --> 00:03:51,225 Dracula is a true icon of horror. 91 00:03:51,274 --> 00:03:54,104 But Stoker's Dracula was far more monstrous 92 00:03:54,146 --> 00:03:56,886 than the polished aristocrats we think of today. 93 00:03:56,932 --> 00:03:58,632 [fire crackling] 94 00:03:58,673 --> 00:04:00,893 - I grew up reading "Dracula" 95 00:04:00,936 --> 00:04:03,716 and reading about the stink of the grave, 96 00:04:03,765 --> 00:04:06,155 the graveyard earth that the vampire was in 97 00:04:06,202 --> 00:04:08,382 with the worms crawling in it, 98 00:04:08,422 --> 00:04:10,822 about his fetid breath. 99 00:04:10,859 --> 00:04:13,299 It was supposed to be ugly and nasty. 100 00:04:13,340 --> 00:04:16,340 - Yeah, he's the original stalker, 101 00:04:16,386 --> 00:04:18,866 the original scary stranger, you know, 102 00:04:18,910 --> 00:04:20,700 the original serial killer. 103 00:04:20,738 --> 00:04:22,828 - [hisses] 104 00:04:22,871 --> 00:04:24,311 - [exclaims] - One of the reasons 105 00:04:24,351 --> 00:04:26,831 that Dracula has persisted for so long-- 106 00:04:26,875 --> 00:04:29,175 as opposed to the Frankenstein monster, 107 00:04:29,225 --> 00:04:31,915 as opposed to the Wolfman or the Mummy-- 108 00:04:31,967 --> 00:04:33,837 was, he was a character. 109 00:04:33,882 --> 00:04:35,542 He was a genuine... 110 00:04:35,579 --> 00:04:36,929 character. 111 00:04:36,972 --> 00:04:38,972 [sinister music] 112 00:04:39,017 --> 00:04:41,887 - The first unauthorized adaptation of "Dracula" 113 00:04:41,933 --> 00:04:46,023 was the German silent film "Nosferatu." 114 00:04:46,068 --> 00:04:48,418 It was released in 1922, 115 00:04:48,462 --> 00:04:51,422 four years after the end of the First World War. 116 00:04:51,465 --> 00:04:53,765 ♪ 117 00:04:53,815 --> 00:04:55,685 - The makers of "Nosferatu" 118 00:04:55,730 --> 00:04:57,820 intended that vampire 119 00:04:57,862 --> 00:05:00,472 to represent war itself... 120 00:05:00,517 --> 00:05:02,037 ♪ 121 00:05:02,084 --> 00:05:03,914 War as a cosmic vampire 122 00:05:03,955 --> 00:05:07,305 that had drained the blood out of Europe. 123 00:05:07,350 --> 00:05:09,090 - And you watch the original "Nosferatu"... 124 00:05:09,134 --> 00:05:11,094 - Yeah. - It was terrifying. 125 00:05:11,136 --> 00:05:13,396 And I thought it was so cool that Tobe Hooper went 126 00:05:13,443 --> 00:05:16,453 to that kind of vampire in "Salem's Lot." 127 00:05:16,490 --> 00:05:18,670 - [hisses] - The bald vampire 128 00:05:18,709 --> 00:05:20,969 with the teeth like that always freaked me out. 129 00:05:21,016 --> 00:05:22,056 - [screeches] 130 00:05:22,104 --> 00:05:25,594 ♪ 131 00:05:25,629 --> 00:05:28,149 The first official adaptation of "Dracula" 132 00:05:28,197 --> 00:05:31,327 starred the incomparable Bela Lugosi. 133 00:05:31,374 --> 00:05:33,944 - Listen to them. 134 00:05:33,985 --> 00:05:37,465 The children of the night... 135 00:05:37,511 --> 00:05:40,641 what music they make. 136 00:05:40,688 --> 00:05:42,518 - We all know the story: 137 00:05:42,559 --> 00:05:44,389 looking for new blood, 138 00:05:44,431 --> 00:05:46,391 the undead Count Dracula 139 00:05:46,433 --> 00:05:49,443 relocates from Transylvania to England. 140 00:05:49,479 --> 00:05:52,999 Once in London, the vampire begins to feed. 141 00:05:53,048 --> 00:05:55,918 [woman screams] He takes a special interest 142 00:05:55,964 --> 00:05:58,144 in corrupting a young woman whom he wants 143 00:05:58,183 --> 00:06:01,193 to turn into his vampire bride. 144 00:06:01,230 --> 00:06:03,010 - In 1931, 145 00:06:03,058 --> 00:06:05,448 which was the worst year of the Great Depression, 146 00:06:05,495 --> 00:06:06,975 Universal took a chance 147 00:06:07,018 --> 00:06:10,278 on "Dracula" and "Frankenstein." 148 00:06:10,326 --> 00:06:13,806 - We have this American public that has just endured 149 00:06:13,851 --> 00:06:15,721 the beginning of the Great Depression. 150 00:06:15,766 --> 00:06:17,246 They wanted to have some sort 151 00:06:17,289 --> 00:06:19,469 of foreign presence to go and blame 152 00:06:19,509 --> 00:06:20,989 for everything that was happening around them: 153 00:06:21,032 --> 00:06:22,512 for losing their jobs, for not being able 154 00:06:22,556 --> 00:06:24,426 to feed their family. 155 00:06:24,471 --> 00:06:26,471 - People were on edge, 156 00:06:26,516 --> 00:06:30,126 and "Dracula" was the mysterious draining force 157 00:06:30,172 --> 00:06:32,442 that was at everybody's door. 158 00:06:32,479 --> 00:06:36,349 - My blood now flows through her veins. 159 00:06:36,396 --> 00:06:39,306 - I find it fascinating that anybody 160 00:06:39,355 --> 00:06:41,835 for years, decades to come 161 00:06:41,879 --> 00:06:43,839 who wanted to imitate Count Dracula 162 00:06:43,881 --> 00:06:45,751 did it with a Hungarian accent. 163 00:06:45,796 --> 00:06:47,926 - I am Dracula. - Greetings. 164 00:06:47,972 --> 00:06:49,192 It is I, the Count. 165 00:06:49,234 --> 00:06:51,634 - Welcome to Hotel Transylvania! 166 00:06:51,672 --> 00:06:54,892 - I didn't know Bela Lugosi 167 00:06:54,936 --> 00:06:57,196 was the name of a man. 168 00:06:57,242 --> 00:07:00,942 I thought all the horror film monsters 169 00:07:00,985 --> 00:07:03,205 and all the actors 170 00:07:03,248 --> 00:07:05,028 worked as a team... 171 00:07:05,076 --> 00:07:06,466 - [laughing] - And the name of the team 172 00:07:06,513 --> 00:07:09,393 was Bela Lugosi. 173 00:07:09,429 --> 00:07:11,819 - Lugosi was a hard act to follow. 174 00:07:11,866 --> 00:07:14,606 It took nearly three decades for another Dracula 175 00:07:14,651 --> 00:07:16,351 to make his mark. 176 00:07:16,392 --> 00:07:19,052 But Christopher Lee made the role his own. 177 00:07:19,090 --> 00:07:21,220 - Mr. Harker. 178 00:07:21,266 --> 00:07:23,226 I'm glad that you've arrived safely. 179 00:07:23,268 --> 00:07:24,968 - Count Dracula? 180 00:07:25,009 --> 00:07:27,489 - I am Dracula, and I welcome you to my house. 181 00:07:27,534 --> 00:07:30,284 - Lee was both dapper, aristocratic, 182 00:07:30,319 --> 00:07:31,489 and terrifying. 183 00:07:31,538 --> 00:07:34,498 [sinister music] 184 00:07:34,541 --> 00:07:36,061 ♪ 185 00:07:36,107 --> 00:07:38,367 - [screams] 186 00:07:38,414 --> 00:07:41,904 - Very different than Lugosi's count. 187 00:07:41,939 --> 00:07:45,509 Bela Lugosi's Dracula never had fangs. 188 00:07:45,552 --> 00:07:47,422 - They felt that fangs would have been 189 00:07:47,467 --> 00:07:50,167 too suggestive of penetration. 190 00:07:50,208 --> 00:07:52,428 Well, Christopher Lee-- not only did he have fangs, 191 00:07:52,472 --> 00:07:54,392 but as he's approaching these women, 192 00:07:54,430 --> 00:07:58,000 who at first are intimidated, they... 193 00:07:58,042 --> 00:08:00,922 start undoing their blouse, and they're like, 194 00:08:00,958 --> 00:08:01,998 you know, "Come at me. 195 00:08:02,046 --> 00:08:03,396 This is awesome." 196 00:08:03,439 --> 00:08:05,399 ♪ 197 00:08:05,441 --> 00:08:07,881 - It's so interesting, the fear of female sexuality 198 00:08:07,922 --> 00:08:11,532 that is so powerful in "Dracula," 199 00:08:11,578 --> 00:08:14,448 the idea of a woman after having had sex, 200 00:08:14,494 --> 00:08:16,234 basically, after having been bitten 201 00:08:16,278 --> 00:08:18,588 and then transforming into this ravenous 202 00:08:18,628 --> 00:08:19,978 sexual creature. 203 00:08:20,021 --> 00:08:22,111 - [hisses] 204 00:08:22,153 --> 00:08:23,593 - [growls] 205 00:08:23,633 --> 00:08:25,643 - It's--it's, like, so-- 206 00:08:25,679 --> 00:08:27,379 it's great, 'cause horror allows you 207 00:08:27,419 --> 00:08:29,939 to really express your fears in a very obvious way. 208 00:08:29,987 --> 00:08:31,767 [laughs] You know, go to town on them. 209 00:08:31,815 --> 00:08:33,335 - Come. 210 00:08:33,382 --> 00:08:35,082 Let me kiss you. 211 00:08:35,123 --> 00:08:37,213 - There have been many Draculas since Lugosi 212 00:08:37,255 --> 00:08:40,035 and Lee, but one truly stands out... 213 00:08:40,084 --> 00:08:41,784 [foreboding music] 214 00:08:41,825 --> 00:08:44,475 Gary Oldman in Francis Ford Coppola's 215 00:08:44,524 --> 00:08:46,794 epic 1992 adaptation. 216 00:08:46,830 --> 00:08:48,350 ♪ 217 00:08:48,397 --> 00:08:50,177 - Gary Oldman, who plays Dracula, 218 00:08:50,225 --> 00:08:52,435 we have him being suave and sophisticated and sexy, 219 00:08:52,488 --> 00:08:55,228 and then the next minute, he's transforming into a wolf-- 220 00:08:55,273 --> 00:08:56,583 a large wolf. 221 00:08:56,623 --> 00:08:58,583 And he is just maiming people. 222 00:08:58,625 --> 00:09:00,665 He's vicious. He's terrible. 223 00:09:00,714 --> 00:09:03,464 And somehow, it works. 224 00:09:03,499 --> 00:09:05,409 - [screams] - [growls] 225 00:09:05,457 --> 00:09:06,587 [eerie music] 226 00:09:06,633 --> 00:09:09,163 - I loved Coppola's "Dracula," 227 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,160 just the level of art direction, 228 00:09:11,202 --> 00:09:14,602 just how creative that was as a film... 229 00:09:14,641 --> 00:09:16,291 - [speaking foreign language] 230 00:09:16,338 --> 00:09:18,208 - And what a mood it set. 231 00:09:18,253 --> 00:09:20,523 [ominous music] 232 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:23,260 When he was doing Dracula point-of-view stuff, 233 00:09:23,301 --> 00:09:26,221 the way that he shot that was so exhilarating. 234 00:09:26,261 --> 00:09:28,311 - [growling] - [screams] 235 00:09:28,350 --> 00:09:30,570 - [barking] [glass shatters] 236 00:09:30,613 --> 00:09:32,753 - I think that helps paint a pretty picture... 237 00:09:32,789 --> 00:09:34,839 [laughing] Over the brutality of it all, 238 00:09:34,878 --> 00:09:36,658 and I think that is specific 239 00:09:36,706 --> 00:09:38,616 to the vampire genre. 240 00:09:38,665 --> 00:09:40,485 - We're strong in the Lord and the power of his might. 241 00:09:40,536 --> 00:09:42,096 [speaking Latin] 242 00:09:42,146 --> 00:09:44,626 - [screeches] 243 00:09:44,671 --> 00:09:47,281 - I bring you from shadow into light! 244 00:09:47,325 --> 00:09:51,545 I cast you out, the Prince of Darkness! 245 00:09:51,591 --> 00:09:54,381 - We see this extremely sympathetic Dracula 246 00:09:54,419 --> 00:09:56,639 because he misses his-- 247 00:09:56,683 --> 00:09:59,343 his wife, who was killed, and then sees 248 00:09:59,381 --> 00:10:02,511 sort of her reincarnation in this modern-day gal. 249 00:10:02,558 --> 00:10:05,648 That completely revolutionized 250 00:10:05,692 --> 00:10:07,262 Dracula performances. 251 00:10:07,302 --> 00:10:10,172 It changed the--the filmic Dracula mythos. 252 00:10:10,218 --> 00:10:13,128 [dramatic music] 253 00:10:13,177 --> 00:10:14,437 - [snarls] 254 00:10:14,483 --> 00:10:16,013 [growls] 255 00:10:16,050 --> 00:10:17,660 - And, in fact, you could argue 256 00:10:17,704 --> 00:10:20,104 that we're still riding the wave from that film 257 00:10:20,141 --> 00:10:22,061 even today. - [hollers] 258 00:10:22,099 --> 00:10:24,619 - Mina. 259 00:10:24,667 --> 00:10:26,357 - What Coppola did was, he portrayed 260 00:10:26,408 --> 00:10:28,408 a very tragic figure. 261 00:10:28,453 --> 00:10:30,853 The guy just wants to be loved. 262 00:10:30,891 --> 00:10:32,591 I mean, that's what all of the Universal monster movies 263 00:10:32,632 --> 00:10:34,632 have in common is that they're all just 264 00:10:34,677 --> 00:10:36,547 male archetypes who want 265 00:10:36,592 --> 00:10:37,902 the love and affection of a woman 266 00:10:37,941 --> 00:10:39,901 but because they're monsters, 267 00:10:39,943 --> 00:10:42,693 they're sort of scorned and rejected. 268 00:10:42,729 --> 00:10:45,209 - [screams] 269 00:10:45,253 --> 00:10:48,433 - The story of Dracula continues to resonate today. 270 00:10:48,473 --> 00:10:49,913 [both breathing heavily] But its fear 271 00:10:49,953 --> 00:10:52,523 of female sexuality is firmly rooted 272 00:10:52,564 --> 00:10:55,004 in 19th-century England. 273 00:10:55,045 --> 00:10:56,865 In the late 20th century, 274 00:10:56,917 --> 00:11:00,137 novelist Anne Rice created a new breed of vampire 275 00:11:00,181 --> 00:11:02,181 suited for the modern world, 276 00:11:02,226 --> 00:11:04,526 vampires as tortured heroes, 277 00:11:04,576 --> 00:11:07,316 amoral villains, and avatars 278 00:11:07,362 --> 00:11:09,232 of alternative sexuality. 279 00:11:13,194 --> 00:11:15,284 - Pretend to drink, at least. 280 00:11:15,326 --> 00:11:18,286 [ominous music] 281 00:11:18,329 --> 00:11:19,809 ♪ 282 00:11:19,853 --> 00:11:22,333 Such fine crystal shouldn't go to waste. 283 00:11:23,726 --> 00:11:26,986 - Anne Rice dominates modern vampire fiction. 284 00:11:27,034 --> 00:11:29,784 Her books turned the genre inside out. 285 00:11:29,819 --> 00:11:32,559 Rice's vampires were beautiful monsters 286 00:11:32,604 --> 00:11:35,484 with tortured souls. 287 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,740 - As soon as I started to write what's called fantasy, 288 00:11:37,784 --> 00:11:39,614 I was able to touch reality. 289 00:11:39,655 --> 00:11:41,395 I was able to talk about my world. 290 00:11:41,439 --> 00:11:43,139 I was able to talk about good and evil 291 00:11:43,180 --> 00:11:45,140 and guilt and pain and suffering, 292 00:11:45,182 --> 00:11:46,922 but I had to do it in that context, 293 00:11:46,967 --> 00:11:49,227 with that frame of fantasy around it. 294 00:11:49,273 --> 00:11:52,543 - Rice's first novel, "Interview with the Vampire," 295 00:11:52,581 --> 00:11:56,191 was made into a film in 1994. 296 00:11:56,237 --> 00:11:57,667 The story follows 297 00:11:57,717 --> 00:11:59,107 the centuries-long relationship 298 00:11:59,153 --> 00:12:01,023 between the vampire Lestat 299 00:12:01,068 --> 00:12:04,718 and Louis, a troubled New Orleans aristocrat. 300 00:12:04,767 --> 00:12:06,937 Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt-- 301 00:12:06,987 --> 00:12:09,157 two of the biggest stars of modern times-- 302 00:12:09,206 --> 00:12:10,206 played the leads. 303 00:12:10,251 --> 00:12:11,731 - The Paris opera is in town. 304 00:12:11,774 --> 00:12:15,044 We can try some French cui--cuisine. 305 00:12:16,039 --> 00:12:19,389 - Forgive me if I have a lingering respect for life. 306 00:12:19,434 --> 00:12:22,264 - The Louis character didn't want to be a vampire, 307 00:12:22,306 --> 00:12:24,306 and he didn't like the brutal killing aspect. 308 00:12:24,352 --> 00:12:27,622 - [hollers] - And then you have Lestat, 309 00:12:27,659 --> 00:12:29,789 who just enjoys and revels in all of it. 310 00:12:29,836 --> 00:12:31,926 - Why do you do this? - I like to do it. 311 00:12:31,968 --> 00:12:33,538 I enjoy it. 312 00:12:33,578 --> 00:12:35,018 - There was a lot of controversy 313 00:12:35,058 --> 00:12:37,838 about casting Tom Cruise, 314 00:12:37,887 --> 00:12:40,277 but between Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt, 315 00:12:40,324 --> 00:12:42,814 and Kirsten Dunst, I thought they really nailed it. 316 00:12:42,849 --> 00:12:44,329 I was surprised. 317 00:12:44,372 --> 00:12:46,502 I went in skeptical but came out a fan. 318 00:12:46,548 --> 00:12:48,118 [tense music] 319 00:12:48,158 --> 00:12:50,468 - You see the old woman? 320 00:12:50,508 --> 00:12:52,208 That will never happen to you. 321 00:12:52,249 --> 00:12:55,909 You will never grow old, and you will never die. 322 00:12:55,949 --> 00:12:57,989 - That goes down as one of the great 323 00:12:58,038 --> 00:12:59,998 child's performances. 324 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,000 Once in a while, it happens 325 00:13:02,042 --> 00:13:04,572 that a kid can kick so much ass in a movie. 326 00:13:04,609 --> 00:13:06,829 - You give her to me, Louis! 327 00:13:06,873 --> 00:13:10,533 Do this before you leave me! 328 00:13:10,572 --> 00:13:11,882 [crying] 329 00:13:11,921 --> 00:13:13,621 Oh, God. 330 00:13:13,662 --> 00:13:15,452 I love you still. 331 00:13:15,490 --> 00:13:18,280 My dark angel, when you are gone. 332 00:13:18,319 --> 00:13:19,799 [somber music] 333 00:13:19,842 --> 00:13:22,632 - What do you think she is, Madeleine? 334 00:13:22,671 --> 00:13:23,981 ♪ 335 00:13:24,020 --> 00:13:25,850 A doll? 336 00:13:25,892 --> 00:13:28,072 ♪ 337 00:13:28,111 --> 00:13:30,331 - A child who cannot die. 338 00:13:30,374 --> 00:13:31,774 [locket snaps] 339 00:13:31,811 --> 00:13:33,901 - And the child who did die? 340 00:13:33,943 --> 00:13:36,423 - Claudia's probably the best part of the movie. 341 00:13:36,467 --> 00:13:39,247 You know, the idea of a vampire 342 00:13:39,296 --> 00:13:41,426 being forced to age in the body 343 00:13:41,472 --> 00:13:45,002 of, what, a ten-year-old girl? 344 00:13:45,041 --> 00:13:49,391 To see a character that is granted immortality, 345 00:13:49,437 --> 00:13:51,607 but the downside being she never gets to grow up 346 00:13:51,656 --> 00:13:53,876 to become a woman, like, that's heartbreaking. 347 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,270 [tense music] 348 00:13:55,312 --> 00:13:57,752 - Anne Rice lost a daughter 349 00:13:57,793 --> 00:13:59,973 at a very young age, 350 00:14:00,013 --> 00:14:03,893 and Claudia in the novel was an homage to that. 351 00:14:03,930 --> 00:14:06,720 - Mama. - Oh, shh. 352 00:14:06,758 --> 00:14:08,538 Hush, now. Don't cry. 353 00:14:08,586 --> 00:14:10,716 We'll find her. - Mama. 354 00:14:10,762 --> 00:14:12,902 - Oh. 355 00:14:12,939 --> 00:14:15,899 - The vampires Lestat, Louis, and Claudia 356 00:14:15,942 --> 00:14:17,942 form a family of outsiders 357 00:14:17,987 --> 00:14:20,817 headed by two fathers. 358 00:14:20,860 --> 00:14:23,300 The arrangement suggested gay marriage 359 00:14:23,340 --> 00:14:26,910 years before that was accepted by mainstream society. 360 00:14:26,953 --> 00:14:29,223 - One happy family. 361 00:14:29,259 --> 00:14:32,649 - The novel was intentionally homoerotic. 362 00:14:32,697 --> 00:14:34,347 Even though I think they downplayed 363 00:14:34,395 --> 00:14:36,395 a little bit of the homoeroticism 364 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,140 that was in novel, it was still there. 365 00:14:39,182 --> 00:14:43,712 - I've drained you to the point of death. 366 00:14:43,752 --> 00:14:46,232 - Using it as a cultural link 367 00:14:46,276 --> 00:14:48,496 with homosexuality... 368 00:14:48,539 --> 00:14:49,979 - Yes. - Has been part 369 00:14:50,019 --> 00:14:51,889 of the vampire mystique, but I mean, 370 00:14:51,934 --> 00:14:55,164 when you couldn't deal with homo--homosexuality, 371 00:14:55,198 --> 00:14:58,108 you could deal with it to some degree or another 372 00:14:58,158 --> 00:14:59,768 in vampire movies, 373 00:14:59,811 --> 00:15:03,121 even going back as far as the '30s. 374 00:15:03,163 --> 00:15:05,383 - Really? - Yeah, "Dracula's Daughter." 375 00:15:05,426 --> 00:15:08,206 - I suppose you'll want these pulled down, won't you? 376 00:15:08,255 --> 00:15:09,335 - Yes. 377 00:15:09,386 --> 00:15:11,686 - Probably the most famous 378 00:15:11,736 --> 00:15:13,476 lesbian sequence... 379 00:15:13,521 --> 00:15:15,921 - Mm-hmm. - In an American movie 380 00:15:15,958 --> 00:15:17,218 made in the '30s. 381 00:15:17,264 --> 00:15:19,964 - Why are you looking at me that way? 382 00:15:20,006 --> 00:15:22,046 Won't I do? 383 00:15:22,095 --> 00:15:24,045 - Yes, you'll do very well indeed. 384 00:15:24,097 --> 00:15:27,267 - The suggestion of a female seduction 385 00:15:27,317 --> 00:15:29,147 is just right there. 386 00:15:29,189 --> 00:15:31,499 That's just--it's just there. 387 00:15:31,539 --> 00:15:33,059 It's not even subtext. 388 00:15:33,106 --> 00:15:35,936 - You are out of your mind. 389 00:15:35,978 --> 00:15:38,938 [intimate music] 390 00:15:38,981 --> 00:15:42,511 ♪ 391 00:15:42,550 --> 00:15:45,290 - It was commonplace, particularly in the '70s-- 392 00:15:45,335 --> 00:15:48,155 lesbians would, like, say, "Oh, wow, I-I just saw 393 00:15:48,208 --> 00:15:50,298 "this magnificent movie 394 00:15:50,340 --> 00:15:53,260 "about these two women that were in love, and it-- 395 00:15:53,300 --> 00:15:55,650 "and it really played the relationship 396 00:15:55,693 --> 00:15:57,133 "for all it's worth. 397 00:15:57,173 --> 00:15:58,703 I mean, they're vampires, all right, but..." 398 00:15:58,740 --> 00:15:59,830 - "But..." That's--yeah. - [laughs] 399 00:15:59,871 --> 00:16:01,131 - Well, this is one 400 00:16:01,177 --> 00:16:02,737 of the cool things about horror 401 00:16:02,787 --> 00:16:04,137 is that historically, it's always been able 402 00:16:04,180 --> 00:16:05,970 to deal with taboo subjects. 403 00:16:06,008 --> 00:16:07,578 [dark music] 404 00:16:07,618 --> 00:16:10,708 In recent times, the challenging of taboos 405 00:16:10,752 --> 00:16:12,322 was taken to new levels 406 00:16:12,362 --> 00:16:14,802 by the television series "True Blood." 407 00:16:14,843 --> 00:16:17,893 It cut open the veins of vampirism 408 00:16:17,933 --> 00:16:21,113 and let the pansexual eroticism gush out. 409 00:16:21,154 --> 00:16:22,464 - [roars] 410 00:16:26,159 --> 00:16:27,899 - The many sides of vampires-- 411 00:16:27,943 --> 00:16:29,603 the danger and the romance, 412 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,340 the threat and the fun-- 413 00:16:31,381 --> 00:16:34,121 were all on full display in the long-running 414 00:16:34,167 --> 00:16:36,387 HBO series "True Blood," 415 00:16:36,430 --> 00:16:39,090 which debuted in 2008. 416 00:16:39,128 --> 00:16:40,698 - I... 417 00:16:40,738 --> 00:16:44,258 never thought I would be having sex with you. 418 00:16:44,307 --> 00:16:47,137 - Who said anything about sex? 419 00:16:47,180 --> 00:16:50,140 [foreboding music] 420 00:16:50,183 --> 00:16:52,363 ♪ 421 00:16:52,402 --> 00:16:55,412 - "True Blood" was based on the Southern Vampire Mysteries 422 00:16:55,449 --> 00:16:57,279 by Charlaine Harris. 423 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,840 Over seven seasons, the series followed 424 00:16:59,888 --> 00:17:02,368 its heroine, Sookie Stackhouse, 425 00:17:02,412 --> 00:17:04,722 as she made her way through a world 426 00:17:04,762 --> 00:17:07,162 where vampires emerged from the shadows 427 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,940 and entered mainstream society. 428 00:17:09,985 --> 00:17:11,725 ♪ 429 00:17:11,769 --> 00:17:13,249 - The epicenter of "True Blood" 430 00:17:13,293 --> 00:17:15,733 is in Louisiana, 431 00:17:15,773 --> 00:17:19,393 and, basically, vampires have been around forever, 432 00:17:19,429 --> 00:17:21,259 but they kind of come out of the closet-- 433 00:17:21,301 --> 00:17:22,951 or the coffin, I should say-- 434 00:17:22,998 --> 00:17:27,918 and they decide to live amongst the living. 435 00:17:27,959 --> 00:17:30,529 - As you can see, I did not burst into flames. 436 00:17:30,571 --> 00:17:32,051 [scattered laughter] 437 00:17:32,094 --> 00:17:34,404 - It becomes a metaphor for so many 438 00:17:34,444 --> 00:17:36,584 different rights movements 439 00:17:36,620 --> 00:17:40,020 and how they're both ostracized. 440 00:17:40,059 --> 00:17:42,099 When I started on "True Blood," 441 00:17:42,148 --> 00:17:44,188 all we knew about Pam at the beginning 442 00:17:44,237 --> 00:17:47,197 was that she was the lieutenant 443 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,200 to this vampire, her maker, 444 00:17:49,242 --> 00:17:51,682 and that she cared about nothing else. 445 00:17:51,722 --> 00:17:54,122 - I find myself doubting whether you were ever 446 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,120 truly human. 447 00:17:56,162 --> 00:17:57,422 - Thank you. 448 00:17:57,467 --> 00:17:59,077 Pam... 449 00:17:59,121 --> 00:18:01,211 objectifying, 450 00:18:01,254 --> 00:18:02,524 murdering, 451 00:18:02,559 --> 00:18:05,609 literally eating men 452 00:18:05,649 --> 00:18:07,389 was one of my favorite parts. 453 00:18:07,434 --> 00:18:09,264 [roars] 454 00:18:09,305 --> 00:18:11,435 I don't know a lot of men 455 00:18:11,481 --> 00:18:13,741 who are aware of where to park 456 00:18:13,788 --> 00:18:16,098 in a parking lot-- not next to a minivan, 457 00:18:16,138 --> 00:18:18,488 to carry your keys between your fingers; 458 00:18:18,532 --> 00:18:20,322 when you're parking at the airport, 459 00:18:20,360 --> 00:18:22,620 to look for where it's most lit. 460 00:18:22,666 --> 00:18:25,056 It's just part of a woman's life. 461 00:18:25,104 --> 00:18:27,544 To be the top of the food chain 462 00:18:27,584 --> 00:18:29,764 was so refreshing. 463 00:18:29,804 --> 00:18:33,424 I'll give you 24 hours to deliver that witch to me. 464 00:18:33,460 --> 00:18:36,510 And if you don't, I will personally eat, 465 00:18:36,550 --> 00:18:39,210 [...], and kill all three of you. 466 00:18:39,248 --> 00:18:40,948 [tense music] 467 00:18:40,989 --> 00:18:42,469 I was never good at the vampire teeth, 468 00:18:42,512 --> 00:18:44,042 and I never got better. - [squeals] 469 00:18:44,079 --> 00:18:45,729 - Huh? What--what's that? 470 00:18:45,776 --> 00:18:47,816 I-I can't understand you. 471 00:18:47,865 --> 00:18:49,685 - The thing I struggled with the most was the teeth-- 472 00:18:49,737 --> 00:18:51,427 talking with the teeth. 473 00:18:51,478 --> 00:18:53,478 What do you expect when you come into my house 474 00:18:53,523 --> 00:18:55,003 and [...] with me? 475 00:18:55,046 --> 00:18:56,736 It's hard trying to act 476 00:18:56,787 --> 00:18:59,487 with a piece of your body that you don't normally have. 477 00:18:59,529 --> 00:19:01,919 - [hisses] 478 00:19:01,966 --> 00:19:04,006 - It's been a long time since I've done this. 479 00:19:04,055 --> 00:19:06,185 - A man? - No. 480 00:19:06,232 --> 00:19:07,802 A vampire. 481 00:19:07,842 --> 00:19:10,062 - "True Blood's" often comic tone 482 00:19:10,105 --> 00:19:12,325 masked its serious intent: 483 00:19:12,368 --> 00:19:14,628 trying to make sense of sexual identity 484 00:19:14,675 --> 00:19:16,545 in the 21st century. 485 00:19:16,590 --> 00:19:23,120 ♪ 486 00:19:23,162 --> 00:19:25,902 - My character was mainly gay... 487 00:19:25,947 --> 00:19:28,687 There's vampire in your cleavage. 488 00:19:28,732 --> 00:19:29,782 ♪ 489 00:19:29,820 --> 00:19:32,260 - [gasps] Okay, ew. 490 00:19:32,301 --> 00:19:34,301 - She just had it with men. 491 00:19:34,347 --> 00:19:37,737 She came from a time-- in early 1900-- 492 00:19:37,785 --> 00:19:40,175 where women had a very hard time. 493 00:19:40,222 --> 00:19:41,882 [hollers] - That's right, whore. 494 00:19:41,919 --> 00:19:44,269 - [screaming] 495 00:19:44,313 --> 00:19:46,663 - Vampires just in general kind of go both ways. 496 00:19:46,707 --> 00:19:48,137 They're kind of bisexual. 497 00:19:48,187 --> 00:19:50,277 They kind of--whatever, and so I love 498 00:19:50,319 --> 00:19:52,969 that writers explored sexuality 499 00:19:53,017 --> 00:19:55,187 in relationships with characters that wouldn't 500 00:19:55,237 --> 00:19:57,937 normally, I think, maybe have a relationship like that. 501 00:19:57,979 --> 00:20:00,069 - It's appealing because we live in the United States 502 00:20:00,111 --> 00:20:02,981 and a culture that is very sexual 503 00:20:03,027 --> 00:20:05,247 and yet very sexually repressive. 504 00:20:05,291 --> 00:20:09,471 The idea of the vampire as a kind of sexy monster 505 00:20:09,512 --> 00:20:12,252 fits very well with the United States' kind of 506 00:20:12,298 --> 00:20:16,738 complicated relationship to sexuality. 507 00:20:16,780 --> 00:20:19,390 - "True Blood" reflected America's gradual acceptance 508 00:20:19,435 --> 00:20:21,435 of gay rights, but it made a point 509 00:20:21,481 --> 00:20:24,051 of showing those rights could be taken away 510 00:20:24,092 --> 00:20:26,362 at any time. 511 00:20:26,399 --> 00:20:28,229 - Got to season six, and it was about 512 00:20:28,270 --> 00:20:30,360 the vamp camp and how the vampires 513 00:20:30,403 --> 00:20:32,843 were sort, of like, being herded into these camps 514 00:20:32,883 --> 00:20:35,713 because of who they were and they were a threat. 515 00:20:35,756 --> 00:20:37,536 [vampires hissing] 516 00:20:37,584 --> 00:20:39,414 [all screaming] 517 00:20:39,455 --> 00:20:41,935 And that directly correlates just to social issues in life, 518 00:20:41,979 --> 00:20:44,329 of just being minorities in life that sort of 519 00:20:44,373 --> 00:20:46,553 aren't feeling equal. 520 00:20:46,593 --> 00:20:48,253 - So you're not gonna read me my rights? 521 00:20:48,290 --> 00:20:50,420 - You don't have any rights, vampire. 522 00:20:50,466 --> 00:20:53,556 - I am sure that there's a lot of people 523 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,210 in the "True Blood" audience 524 00:20:55,254 --> 00:20:58,434 who would not vote for equal rights 525 00:20:58,474 --> 00:21:00,614 in a lot of arenas... - [hiccups] 526 00:21:00,650 --> 00:21:03,390 - But because they were just being entertained... 527 00:21:03,436 --> 00:21:05,606 - I did not see that [...] coming. 528 00:21:05,655 --> 00:21:08,135 - That opens the opportunity 529 00:21:08,179 --> 00:21:10,569 through entertainment to go, "Well, 530 00:21:10,617 --> 00:21:12,487 "you like this character, 531 00:21:12,532 --> 00:21:14,142 "you're rooting for him, 532 00:21:14,185 --> 00:21:16,925 and he sleeps with men and women." 533 00:21:16,971 --> 00:21:18,581 [both grunt] 534 00:21:18,625 --> 00:21:20,445 - "True Blood" used the vampire metaphor 535 00:21:20,496 --> 00:21:24,066 to explore the shifting sands of adult sexuality, 536 00:21:24,108 --> 00:21:27,288 but vampire stories have also perfectly captured 537 00:21:27,329 --> 00:21:30,379 the joys and agonies of being a teenager. 538 00:21:30,419 --> 00:21:32,289 - What's happening to me, Star? 539 00:21:35,903 --> 00:21:37,303 [sinister music] 540 00:21:37,339 --> 00:21:38,909 - The teenage years are filled 541 00:21:38,949 --> 00:21:41,519 with big emotions and raging hormones. 542 00:21:41,561 --> 00:21:43,911 It's a time when everything seems 543 00:21:43,954 --> 00:21:46,174 like a matter of life and death. 544 00:21:46,217 --> 00:21:49,307 So when Joel Schumacher's 1987 film 545 00:21:49,351 --> 00:21:52,751 "The Lost Boys" put vampires and teenagers together, 546 00:21:52,789 --> 00:21:55,579 a new kind of horror film was born. 547 00:21:55,618 --> 00:21:58,008 - "Lost Boys" was great, 'cause who would imagine 548 00:21:58,055 --> 00:22:00,835 of taking the legend of Peter Pan, 549 00:22:00,884 --> 00:22:03,284 of the boys who never grow up, 550 00:22:03,322 --> 00:22:05,932 who are just kind of rowdy rock-and-roll vampires? 551 00:22:05,976 --> 00:22:07,666 [engines roaring] 552 00:22:07,717 --> 00:22:09,547 - The whole thing is set to this kind of, like, 553 00:22:09,589 --> 00:22:11,939 '80s rock-and-roll thing: 554 00:22:11,982 --> 00:22:16,642 big hair; oiled-up, shirtless saxophone players. 555 00:22:16,683 --> 00:22:19,083 That's "The Lost Boys." 556 00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:20,770 [dark music] 557 00:22:20,817 --> 00:22:23,117 You've got a family that moves to this town. 558 00:22:23,167 --> 00:22:27,687 The older son, A, falls for a girl 559 00:22:27,737 --> 00:22:30,867 and, B, discovers that the town is overrun 560 00:22:30,914 --> 00:22:33,264 with some very dark things that are happening. 561 00:22:33,308 --> 00:22:35,698 ♪ 562 00:22:35,745 --> 00:22:38,005 - You had this incredibly dark, sexy component 563 00:22:38,052 --> 00:22:41,532 of, like, Kiefer Sutherland and Jami Gertz. 564 00:22:41,577 --> 00:22:43,617 Like, that was-- they were beautiful. 565 00:22:43,666 --> 00:22:45,576 - I'm over here, Michael. 566 00:22:45,625 --> 00:22:49,015 - So it was sort of, like, dark, glamorous, sexy... 567 00:22:49,063 --> 00:22:51,673 - Be one of us. 568 00:22:51,718 --> 00:22:54,978 - And it was about kids saving the day. 569 00:22:55,025 --> 00:22:56,105 - Hey, man. 570 00:22:56,157 --> 00:22:57,587 Read this. 571 00:22:57,637 --> 00:23:00,337 - I told you, I don't like horror comics. 572 00:23:00,379 --> 00:23:03,079 - Think of it more as a survival manual. 573 00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:06,250 - We identified with it because the two kids, 574 00:23:06,297 --> 00:23:08,907 you know, hung out at a comic book shop, 575 00:23:08,952 --> 00:23:11,042 and they knew every rule 576 00:23:11,085 --> 00:23:13,125 about how to kill monsters. 577 00:23:13,174 --> 00:23:14,654 So that's what we were all about. 578 00:23:14,697 --> 00:23:16,397 - Awesome monster bashers. 579 00:23:16,438 --> 00:23:18,658 - The meanest. - The baddest. 580 00:23:18,701 --> 00:23:20,491 [all grunt] 581 00:23:20,529 --> 00:23:22,399 - Well, I-I based them on Rambo. 582 00:23:22,444 --> 00:23:24,534 I told them, "I want you to be like little Rambos." 583 00:23:24,577 --> 00:23:26,537 - Okay, where's Nosferatu? 584 00:23:26,579 --> 00:23:28,059 - Who? - Prince of Darkness. 585 00:23:28,102 --> 00:23:29,542 - The night crawler. The bloodsucker. 586 00:23:29,582 --> 00:23:30,932 - El vampiro. 587 00:23:30,974 --> 00:23:32,284 - For 13-year-old boys, 588 00:23:32,323 --> 00:23:33,673 I mean, they were obsessed with it. 589 00:23:33,716 --> 00:23:35,366 [engines revving] 590 00:23:35,414 --> 00:23:37,984 - "The Lost Boys" was vampire and horror 591 00:23:38,025 --> 00:23:40,455 for the MTV generation, 592 00:23:40,506 --> 00:23:43,156 so the way it was edited, the way it was scored, 593 00:23:43,204 --> 00:23:45,554 and the whole look of the vampires. 594 00:23:45,598 --> 00:23:48,858 - I told you to stay off the boardwalk. 595 00:23:48,905 --> 00:23:50,465 - Even when I was auditioning, it was like, 596 00:23:50,516 --> 00:23:51,946 "You guys are gonna be riding Triumphs. 597 00:23:51,995 --> 00:23:53,475 You're gonna have leather jackets on." 598 00:23:53,519 --> 00:23:55,349 Like, I thought I was gonna die 599 00:23:55,390 --> 00:23:57,480 when I saw what he wanted me to look like. 600 00:23:57,523 --> 00:23:59,313 - Marko. 601 00:23:59,350 --> 00:24:00,790 - Good night, Michael. 602 00:24:00,830 --> 00:24:01,830 Bombs away. 603 00:24:01,875 --> 00:24:03,045 I was, like, you know, 604 00:24:03,093 --> 00:24:05,103 this scrappy NYU film student 605 00:24:05,139 --> 00:24:06,749 from, like, the Lower East Side. 606 00:24:06,793 --> 00:24:08,403 I mean, who the hell else was gonna get me 607 00:24:08,447 --> 00:24:10,407 in 14-inch hair extensions? 608 00:24:10,449 --> 00:24:12,969 But I did--and I wore chaps, you know? 609 00:24:13,016 --> 00:24:16,146 So that tells you a lot about wanting to keep Joel happy. 610 00:24:16,193 --> 00:24:17,673 [engines revving] 611 00:24:17,717 --> 00:24:19,017 - [breathing shakily] 612 00:24:19,066 --> 00:24:21,676 - Come on, Michael! - [grunts] 613 00:24:21,721 --> 00:24:23,941 - I said to everybody at Warner Brothers, 614 00:24:23,984 --> 00:24:26,124 "Let's not make excuses for this movie. 615 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,160 It's a teenage vampire film." 616 00:24:28,205 --> 00:24:29,285 - Come on! 617 00:24:29,337 --> 00:24:30,767 - Can we make the best one 618 00:24:30,817 --> 00:24:31,987 that's ever been made? 619 00:24:32,035 --> 00:24:33,515 We can die trying. 620 00:24:33,559 --> 00:24:35,559 - [shouts] 621 00:24:35,604 --> 00:24:37,694 [grunting] 622 00:24:37,737 --> 00:24:39,567 [engine rumbling] 623 00:24:39,608 --> 00:24:42,348 - I think Joel may or may not kill me for saying this, 624 00:24:42,393 --> 00:24:46,533 but I mean, the movie-- it's "Rebel Without a Cause." 625 00:24:46,572 --> 00:24:48,402 It's really a Nick Ray movie. 626 00:24:48,443 --> 00:24:50,533 [tires squealing] 627 00:24:50,576 --> 00:24:52,316 [engines roaring] 628 00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:54,710 [dramatic music] 629 00:24:54,754 --> 00:24:56,804 It's a straight-up 630 00:24:56,843 --> 00:24:59,243 teen-sploitation, 631 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,980 burgeoning sexuality. 632 00:25:02,022 --> 00:25:04,722 It's death, fear of mortality. 633 00:25:04,764 --> 00:25:06,374 I mean, it gets into all the things 634 00:25:06,417 --> 00:25:09,157 that great vampire stories get into. 635 00:25:09,203 --> 00:25:10,333 - They must have hidden their coffins 636 00:25:10,378 --> 00:25:12,468 around here someplace. 637 00:25:12,511 --> 00:25:14,341 - There's nothing here. Let's go, guys. 638 00:25:14,382 --> 00:25:17,652 - Jesus! - [screams] 639 00:25:17,690 --> 00:25:19,910 [dark music] 640 00:25:19,953 --> 00:25:21,913 - I end up getting staked in the chest 641 00:25:21,955 --> 00:25:23,955 by the two Coreys... 642 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,570 - Good night, bloodsucker. 643 00:25:26,612 --> 00:25:28,142 [hisses] - No! 644 00:25:28,178 --> 00:25:30,438 - [roars] [boys screaming] 645 00:25:30,485 --> 00:25:33,485 - And then die in a bath of glittery glue blood. 646 00:25:33,532 --> 00:25:35,972 [roaring] [boys screaming] 647 00:25:36,012 --> 00:25:38,452 So that's--to not spoil all of it for you, 648 00:25:38,493 --> 00:25:39,843 that's basically my demise. 649 00:25:39,886 --> 00:25:41,446 - [hisses] 650 00:25:41,496 --> 00:25:43,406 [pipes gurgling, sinks rattling] 651 00:25:43,454 --> 00:25:45,764 [both shouting] 652 00:25:45,805 --> 00:25:47,885 [pipes clanging] 653 00:25:47,937 --> 00:25:50,327 All right, not to get too heavy, but obviously, 654 00:25:50,374 --> 00:25:52,204 there's no way it was lost on Joel 655 00:25:52,246 --> 00:25:54,726 that the movie was made in the--in the era of AIDS, 656 00:25:54,770 --> 00:25:56,420 when that was really exploding. 657 00:25:56,467 --> 00:25:58,207 - To date, the AIDS virus has claimed 658 00:25:58,252 --> 00:26:00,472 over 24,000 lives, 659 00:26:00,515 --> 00:26:02,465 the majority homosexual men. 660 00:26:02,517 --> 00:26:04,647 - The stigmatizing of the gay population for, 661 00:26:04,693 --> 00:26:06,523 "Well, if you're gonna have that kind of sex, 662 00:26:06,565 --> 00:26:08,085 then you're gonna die"-- 663 00:26:08,131 --> 00:26:10,741 That was very much in the news and in writing 664 00:26:10,786 --> 00:26:12,566 at the time in the '80s. - [hisses] 665 00:26:12,614 --> 00:26:13,794 - It's too late. 666 00:26:13,833 --> 00:26:16,713 My blood is in your veins. 667 00:26:16,749 --> 00:26:19,229 - When the AIDS crisis hit, 668 00:26:19,273 --> 00:26:21,413 there was suddenly this renaissance 669 00:26:21,449 --> 00:26:23,229 of vampire movies. 670 00:26:23,277 --> 00:26:26,587 Vampires are metaphors, clearly, for sex and death. 671 00:26:26,628 --> 00:26:29,278 - [screams] 672 00:26:29,326 --> 00:26:32,156 - I think it's a good example of how a real-life trauma, 673 00:26:32,199 --> 00:26:35,379 especially one that seems uncontrollable, 674 00:26:35,419 --> 00:26:39,549 is responded to by the creation of horror entertainment. 675 00:26:39,598 --> 00:26:43,378 - [screaming] 676 00:26:43,427 --> 00:26:44,907 - If people just want to see it 677 00:26:44,951 --> 00:26:46,431 as an entertainment, that's fine. 678 00:26:46,474 --> 00:26:48,084 If they want to read other things in it, 679 00:26:48,128 --> 00:26:49,428 that's fine. 680 00:26:49,477 --> 00:26:50,997 And if they don't enjoy it, 681 00:26:51,044 --> 00:26:52,834 well, that's a reaction too. 682 00:26:52,872 --> 00:26:55,402 - [spits] [laughter] 683 00:26:56,353 --> 00:26:59,623 - Vampires remind us that looks can be deceiving. 684 00:26:59,661 --> 00:27:02,141 We never really know what lies beneath 685 00:27:02,185 --> 00:27:04,095 the surface of a stranger. 686 00:27:04,144 --> 00:27:05,284 - [distorted voice] I love you too, Seth. 687 00:27:05,319 --> 00:27:06,359 [roars] 688 00:27:09,976 --> 00:27:12,496 - Back, spawn of Satan! 689 00:27:12,543 --> 00:27:14,633 - [laughing] 690 00:27:14,676 --> 00:27:15,806 [tense music] 691 00:27:15,851 --> 00:27:17,371 - My favorite thing, I think, 692 00:27:17,418 --> 00:27:19,588 about horror and fantasy and science fiction 693 00:27:19,638 --> 00:27:20,598 is, you can make it up. 694 00:27:20,639 --> 00:27:22,159 It's--there are no rules. 695 00:27:22,205 --> 00:27:25,635 Any genre, every individual project, 696 00:27:25,687 --> 00:27:28,167 you have to invent your own rules, 697 00:27:28,211 --> 00:27:31,691 so in some movies, vampires can't be seen in a mirror. 698 00:27:31,737 --> 00:27:34,697 In other movies, they have to be killed with silver. 699 00:27:34,740 --> 00:27:36,790 [flesh sizzling] 700 00:27:36,829 --> 00:27:38,609 - What about crucifixes? 701 00:27:38,657 --> 00:27:41,527 - Actually, I'm quite fond of looking at crucifixes. 702 00:27:41,572 --> 00:27:43,792 - How about the old stake-through-the-heart thing? 703 00:27:43,836 --> 00:27:46,316 - The vulgar fictions of a demented Irishman. 704 00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:47,930 - You can follow the rules of the genre 705 00:27:47,970 --> 00:27:49,800 that have been placed down by other movies 706 00:27:49,842 --> 00:27:51,892 or other stories, or you can kind of come up with your own. 707 00:27:51,931 --> 00:27:54,281 [man singing in Spanish] 708 00:27:54,324 --> 00:27:56,374 [rousing rock music playing] 709 00:27:56,413 --> 00:27:57,943 - This is my kind of place. 710 00:27:57,980 --> 00:27:59,720 - In "From Dusk Till Dawn," 711 00:27:59,765 --> 00:28:02,155 two violent criminals take refuge 712 00:28:02,202 --> 00:28:04,732 in a Mexican strip club. 713 00:28:04,770 --> 00:28:06,770 [sultry music] 714 00:28:06,815 --> 00:28:09,595 The main attraction turns out to be the queen 715 00:28:09,644 --> 00:28:11,214 of the vampires. - [grunts] 716 00:28:11,254 --> 00:28:13,004 - [screams] 717 00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:14,909 ♪ 718 00:28:14,954 --> 00:28:16,914 [skin crinkling] 719 00:28:16,956 --> 00:28:18,776 [roars] 720 00:28:18,827 --> 00:28:19,997 [dramatic music] 721 00:28:20,046 --> 00:28:22,046 - [screams] - Dinner... 722 00:28:22,091 --> 00:28:23,751 [distorted voice] Is served. 723 00:28:23,789 --> 00:28:25,569 [screeches] 724 00:28:25,616 --> 00:28:27,746 - I love the vampire makeup in "Dusk Till Dawn." 725 00:28:27,793 --> 00:28:30,233 That, for me, was one of the coolest reinventions. 726 00:28:30,273 --> 00:28:32,153 [man shouts] 727 00:28:32,188 --> 00:28:34,498 - Robert Kurtzman came up with the original treatment of it. 728 00:28:34,538 --> 00:28:36,758 His vampires did kind of point 729 00:28:36,802 --> 00:28:39,022 in this weird direction 730 00:28:39,065 --> 00:28:41,805 that I had never quite seen before 731 00:28:41,850 --> 00:28:43,500 for vampires. 732 00:28:43,547 --> 00:28:45,197 They could take on the shapes of humans, 733 00:28:45,245 --> 00:28:47,805 like they do in the Danny Trejo character, 734 00:28:47,856 --> 00:28:49,766 but their true selves 735 00:28:49,815 --> 00:28:52,945 were these bat-like creatures. 736 00:28:52,992 --> 00:28:54,602 - [growls] - [screams] 737 00:28:54,645 --> 00:28:56,865 - [hisses] 738 00:28:56,909 --> 00:28:58,649 - [roars] - I-I came up with 739 00:28:58,693 --> 00:29:02,263 a few mythology things that would be specific 740 00:29:02,305 --> 00:29:04,475 to these creatures. 741 00:29:04,525 --> 00:29:07,435 One was, okay, yeah, they could definitely be killed 742 00:29:07,484 --> 00:29:09,314 by a wooden stake to the heart. 743 00:29:09,356 --> 00:29:11,786 That still worked. 744 00:29:11,837 --> 00:29:13,797 Their blood was green... - [hollers] 745 00:29:13,839 --> 00:29:16,279 - And the reason I made their blood green 746 00:29:16,319 --> 00:29:18,799 is because I knew there would be vampire blood 747 00:29:18,844 --> 00:29:21,284 all over the place, and it would be 748 00:29:21,324 --> 00:29:23,944 the color red, in particular, that would get you an X. 749 00:29:23,979 --> 00:29:25,849 - NC-17. - Yeah, an NC-17. 750 00:29:25,894 --> 00:29:28,814 So if we made the vampire blood green... 751 00:29:28,854 --> 00:29:30,514 - You could spray it all over the place. 752 00:29:30,551 --> 00:29:32,381 - We could spray it all over the place, 753 00:29:32,422 --> 00:29:34,822 and then the MPAA wouldn't be so freaked out by that. 754 00:29:34,860 --> 00:29:37,040 And that ended up actually working. 755 00:29:37,079 --> 00:29:39,469 - [roars] 756 00:29:39,516 --> 00:29:41,126 [flesh hissing] 757 00:29:41,170 --> 00:29:43,830 - "From Dusk Till Dawn" reinvented vampires 758 00:29:43,869 --> 00:29:46,349 as nightmarish creatures that used sex 759 00:29:46,393 --> 00:29:49,003 to lure in their victims. 760 00:29:49,048 --> 00:29:50,788 [sinister music] 761 00:29:50,832 --> 00:29:53,182 The horror masterpiece "Let the Right One In" 762 00:29:53,226 --> 00:29:55,316 is another brilliant reinvention. 763 00:29:55,358 --> 00:29:57,318 ♪ 764 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,150 The vampire here lives within 765 00:29:59,188 --> 00:30:02,098 the classic boundaries of only going out at night 766 00:30:02,148 --> 00:30:04,498 and viciously feeding on humans. 767 00:30:04,541 --> 00:30:06,331 [body thuds] 768 00:30:06,369 --> 00:30:08,809 But this is not a story about sex. 769 00:30:08,850 --> 00:30:10,500 It's about love and how much 770 00:30:10,547 --> 00:30:13,117 we are willing to accept in the name of love. 771 00:30:13,159 --> 00:30:16,949 ♪ 772 00:30:16,989 --> 00:30:20,169 - "Let the Right One In" is about a boy called Oskar 773 00:30:20,209 --> 00:30:22,469 who is getting bullied in school 774 00:30:22,516 --> 00:30:25,206 and is a bit lonely. 775 00:30:25,258 --> 00:30:28,518 And one day, he meets a girl called Eli, 776 00:30:28,565 --> 00:30:30,785 and then they became friends. 777 00:30:30,829 --> 00:30:32,869 ♪ 778 00:30:32,918 --> 00:30:34,618 What's special about my character, Eli, 779 00:30:34,658 --> 00:30:37,048 first of all is that she's a vampire. 780 00:30:37,096 --> 00:30:38,706 [eerie music] 781 00:30:38,749 --> 00:30:40,529 She has lived for a very long time. 782 00:30:40,577 --> 00:30:43,447 ♪ 783 00:30:43,493 --> 00:30:46,193 They cut off my lashes and my eyebrows 784 00:30:46,235 --> 00:30:47,975 to not make me so female, 785 00:30:48,020 --> 00:30:50,370 and it's also not my voice in the film. 786 00:30:50,413 --> 00:30:52,633 They wanted a voice that wasn't so feminine. 787 00:30:52,676 --> 00:30:57,116 [speaking Swedish] 788 00:30:57,159 --> 00:30:58,899 Vampires could be, like-- 789 00:30:58,944 --> 00:31:01,034 they're, like, sexy or dangerous 790 00:31:01,076 --> 00:31:02,896 or something like that, and she's, like, 791 00:31:02,948 --> 00:31:04,988 the opposite, I think. 792 00:31:05,037 --> 00:31:06,907 - Once you realize who this girl is 793 00:31:06,952 --> 00:31:08,692 and how long she's been around and-- 794 00:31:08,736 --> 00:31:11,476 then it's very haunting in the sense that, you know, 795 00:31:11,521 --> 00:31:13,521 she's taken on this kid as her companion. 796 00:31:13,567 --> 00:31:15,437 And we already know what's gonna happen to him. 797 00:31:15,482 --> 00:31:20,492 ♪ 798 00:31:20,530 --> 00:31:24,230 - Probably the scariest and most powerful sequence 799 00:31:24,273 --> 00:31:26,193 in modern horror 800 00:31:26,232 --> 00:31:30,322 is the final sequence in "Let the Right One In." 801 00:31:31,237 --> 00:31:34,107 A gang of bullies sees 802 00:31:34,153 --> 00:31:36,293 a very vulnerable child 803 00:31:36,329 --> 00:31:38,639 and shove him underwater. 804 00:31:38,679 --> 00:31:41,549 And there is a 2 1/2 minute shot 805 00:31:41,595 --> 00:31:43,985 of the boy's head being held underwater, 806 00:31:44,032 --> 00:31:45,642 and you're seeing him desperately trying 807 00:31:45,686 --> 00:31:48,596 to get back to the surface and breathe. 808 00:31:48,645 --> 00:31:50,125 ♪ 809 00:31:50,169 --> 00:31:52,909 But meanwhile, above the water... 810 00:31:52,954 --> 00:31:54,564 [sinister music] 811 00:31:54,608 --> 00:31:56,518 This pipsqueak vampire, 812 00:31:56,566 --> 00:31:59,306 who loves the little boy, has turned up... 813 00:31:59,352 --> 00:32:00,832 ♪ 814 00:32:00,875 --> 00:32:04,005 And is beginning to butcher the bullies. 815 00:32:04,052 --> 00:32:06,532 [muffled splash] 816 00:32:06,576 --> 00:32:08,056 ♪ 817 00:32:08,100 --> 00:32:10,060 - What was beautiful about that story 818 00:32:10,102 --> 00:32:14,152 is that a monster comes to the rescue 819 00:32:14,193 --> 00:32:17,243 when humanity fails this young man, 820 00:32:17,283 --> 00:32:20,373 and who could blame him for choosing the monster 821 00:32:20,416 --> 00:32:22,326 when humanity was so horrible? 822 00:32:24,029 --> 00:32:26,119 The title has a double meaning. 823 00:32:26,161 --> 00:32:27,861 It could mean that you should let 824 00:32:27,902 --> 00:32:30,432 the right person get into your life, 825 00:32:30,470 --> 00:32:32,600 or, as it is for Eli, 826 00:32:32,646 --> 00:32:35,476 someone has to tell her that she can come in. 827 00:32:41,611 --> 00:32:44,571 [tense music] 828 00:32:44,614 --> 00:32:49,624 ♪ 829 00:32:54,146 --> 00:32:57,576 - For me, the part of the vampire legend 830 00:32:57,627 --> 00:32:59,457 that has always remained really powerful 831 00:32:59,499 --> 00:33:02,679 is this idea that they have to be invited in. 832 00:33:02,719 --> 00:33:04,419 [scratching on glass] 833 00:33:04,460 --> 00:33:07,160 - Open the window, Mark. 834 00:33:07,202 --> 00:33:09,602 - [mimicking scratching] "Let me in. 835 00:33:09,639 --> 00:33:11,419 Let me in." 836 00:33:11,467 --> 00:33:12,987 - Let me in. 837 00:33:13,034 --> 00:33:14,434 It's okay, Mark. I'm your friend. 838 00:33:14,470 --> 00:33:16,690 - So many times in people's lives, 839 00:33:16,733 --> 00:33:18,653 you know, whatever that thing is 840 00:33:18,692 --> 00:33:21,222 that's draining them of their life and vitality, 841 00:33:21,260 --> 00:33:23,090 so often, they invited it in... 842 00:33:23,131 --> 00:33:24,481 ♪ 843 00:33:24,524 --> 00:33:26,054 If it's drugs, if it's alcohol, 844 00:33:26,091 --> 00:33:28,441 if it's someone who's just abusive, 845 00:33:28,484 --> 00:33:30,664 you know, who's cruel to you. 846 00:33:30,704 --> 00:33:32,714 A lot of vampire stories 847 00:33:32,749 --> 00:33:35,009 are about inviting in something 848 00:33:35,056 --> 00:33:36,446 that you think will bring you bliss... 849 00:33:36,492 --> 00:33:38,362 - What's wrong, baby? 850 00:33:38,407 --> 00:33:40,107 - And that destroys you instead. 851 00:33:46,111 --> 00:33:47,901 - Do you think, with your crosses 852 00:33:47,938 --> 00:33:50,548 and your wafers, you can destroy me? 853 00:33:50,593 --> 00:33:52,473 Me? 854 00:33:52,508 --> 00:33:55,688 - Traditionally, vampires have split personalities. 855 00:33:55,729 --> 00:33:58,509 They're both charming and terrifying, 856 00:33:58,558 --> 00:34:00,688 passionate and deadly. 857 00:34:00,734 --> 00:34:02,434 But in the 21st century, 858 00:34:02,475 --> 00:34:04,775 we've seen the two halves separate 859 00:34:04,825 --> 00:34:06,605 into the vampire as monstrous killer... 860 00:34:06,653 --> 00:34:08,223 - [snarls] - [whimpers] 861 00:34:08,263 --> 00:34:10,573 - And the vampire as dreamboat boyfriend. 862 00:34:10,613 --> 00:34:11,923 [dark music] 863 00:34:11,962 --> 00:34:14,232 Vampires, ever flexible, 864 00:34:14,269 --> 00:34:16,659 are being reshaped to suit audiences 865 00:34:16,706 --> 00:34:20,146 whose needs are often overlooked, 866 00:34:20,188 --> 00:34:22,888 like the millions of women and teenage girls 867 00:34:22,930 --> 00:34:25,930 who made "Twilight" the most commercially successful 868 00:34:25,976 --> 00:34:28,716 vampire film of all time. 869 00:34:28,762 --> 00:34:30,292 - [gasps] 870 00:34:30,329 --> 00:34:33,289 [intimate music] 871 00:34:33,332 --> 00:34:39,822 ♪ 872 00:34:39,860 --> 00:34:41,690 Based on the best-selling books 873 00:34:41,731 --> 00:34:44,081 by Stephenie Meyer, "Twilight" reimagines 874 00:34:44,125 --> 00:34:46,735 the vampire story as a teen romance 875 00:34:46,780 --> 00:34:50,260 told from a young woman's point of view. 876 00:34:50,305 --> 00:34:52,345 - The thing that's kind of cool about "Twilight" 877 00:34:52,394 --> 00:34:55,014 is, you have an ordinary girl that moves 878 00:34:55,049 --> 00:34:57,569 to this small town in Washington. 879 00:34:57,617 --> 00:35:00,787 She has to live with her dad for a while. 880 00:35:00,837 --> 00:35:03,797 She feels like a misfit, awkward. 881 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,320 And first day of school, 882 00:35:05,364 --> 00:35:08,894 she is kind of attracted to this amazing 883 00:35:08,932 --> 00:35:11,942 and strange kid, Edward. 884 00:35:11,979 --> 00:35:14,499 Stephenie Meyer, she had a dream 885 00:35:14,547 --> 00:35:16,157 about this vampire. 886 00:35:16,201 --> 00:35:18,941 When the vampire was out in the sunlight, 887 00:35:18,986 --> 00:35:22,466 instead of withering, it did the opposite. 888 00:35:22,511 --> 00:35:25,861 It glowed and glittered and sparkled. 889 00:35:25,906 --> 00:35:27,686 - This is what I am. 890 00:35:27,734 --> 00:35:29,614 [mystical music] 891 00:35:29,649 --> 00:35:31,829 - Well, my vampires break a lot of the rules-- 892 00:35:31,868 --> 00:35:34,178 if there can really be rules about fictional characters. 893 00:35:34,219 --> 00:35:35,829 Really, you can do what you want. 894 00:35:35,872 --> 00:35:38,052 - Obviously it's a fantasy... [laughing] 895 00:35:38,092 --> 00:35:40,182 That you're gonna have the most handsome, 896 00:35:40,225 --> 00:35:42,175 beautiful, amazing guy in the world 897 00:35:42,227 --> 00:35:44,877 that's madly in love with you and will take care of you 898 00:35:44,925 --> 00:35:46,265 and protect you. 899 00:35:46,318 --> 00:35:48,188 [tires squealing] 900 00:35:48,233 --> 00:35:50,023 - [gasps] - [grunts] 901 00:35:50,060 --> 00:35:52,720 - I mean, it's a great fantasy. 902 00:35:52,759 --> 00:35:54,589 - It's not, "We shouldn't kiss 903 00:35:54,630 --> 00:35:56,720 "because maybe won't like each other 904 00:35:56,763 --> 00:35:59,163 or maybe we're gonna make someone else upset." 905 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,030 You're adding this element of, 906 00:36:01,071 --> 00:36:04,251 "If I lose control, I might kill you," 907 00:36:04,292 --> 00:36:06,642 which is so dark and so dramatic, 908 00:36:06,686 --> 00:36:09,596 but at the same time, that's what it feels like 909 00:36:09,645 --> 00:36:10,815 when you're young. 910 00:36:10,864 --> 00:36:12,344 It feels like life and death. 911 00:36:12,387 --> 00:36:14,477 - Just stay very still. 912 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,350 - I really thought it was a fantastic challenge 913 00:36:17,392 --> 00:36:20,312 to create that emotional intoxication 914 00:36:20,352 --> 00:36:22,622 of first love. - Don't move. 915 00:36:22,658 --> 00:36:24,308 [intimate music] 916 00:36:24,356 --> 00:36:27,486 - I thought, "Can I show that on-screen? 917 00:36:27,533 --> 00:36:29,583 "Can I make people as crazy 918 00:36:29,622 --> 00:36:31,412 "about a cinematic version 919 00:36:31,450 --> 00:36:34,190 as the book made people crazy?" 920 00:36:34,235 --> 00:36:36,665 ♪ 921 00:36:36,716 --> 00:36:38,066 And yeah, I think we did 922 00:36:38,108 --> 00:36:39,978 make them pretty crazy. [laughing] 923 00:36:40,023 --> 00:36:43,073 [crowd screaming] 924 00:36:44,506 --> 00:36:48,416 - You can't dismiss something that had such a giant hold on-- 925 00:36:48,467 --> 00:36:50,507 on fandom. 926 00:36:50,556 --> 00:36:53,116 I remember going to Comic-Con a few years back 927 00:36:53,167 --> 00:36:54,597 when the second "Twilight" movie 928 00:36:54,647 --> 00:36:56,817 was coming out, and kids were camped out 929 00:36:56,866 --> 00:36:58,956 on the lawn for 24 hours. 930 00:36:58,999 --> 00:37:01,959 So obviously, it had something to say. 931 00:37:02,002 --> 00:37:03,702 ♪ 932 00:37:03,743 --> 00:37:05,833 - You don't know how long I've waited for you. 933 00:37:05,875 --> 00:37:08,785 - I honestly find its gender and sexual politics 934 00:37:08,835 --> 00:37:12,095 pretty problematic, but that being said, 935 00:37:12,142 --> 00:37:13,882 I think it takes 936 00:37:13,927 --> 00:37:16,277 women's desires seriously 937 00:37:16,321 --> 00:37:20,061 in a way that most Hollywood cinema does not, 938 00:37:20,107 --> 00:37:22,277 most popular culture in general does not. 939 00:37:22,327 --> 00:37:25,197 The focus is more on her desire for Edward, 940 00:37:25,243 --> 00:37:26,723 on her attraction to Edward 941 00:37:26,766 --> 00:37:28,936 and at some points Jacob. 942 00:37:28,985 --> 00:37:31,375 It's not about them lusting after her. 943 00:37:31,423 --> 00:37:32,953 [soft music] 944 00:37:32,989 --> 00:37:35,469 [chimes tinkling] 945 00:37:35,514 --> 00:37:38,174 - There was a photo of one kid at Comic-Con 946 00:37:38,212 --> 00:37:39,562 when "Twilight" came out-- there was, like, 947 00:37:39,605 --> 00:37:41,605 some angry kid with a huge placard that said, 948 00:37:41,650 --> 00:37:43,780 "Nosferatu didn't sparkle." - Yeah. 949 00:37:43,826 --> 00:37:46,086 - And I was like, "That's me. I'm that kid." 950 00:37:46,133 --> 00:37:47,793 - The whole vampire idea, 951 00:37:47,830 --> 00:37:50,880 the romantic vampire, has always been popular 952 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,570 with teens, 953 00:37:52,618 --> 00:37:54,838 early 20s and things-- particularly women-- 954 00:37:54,881 --> 00:37:57,801 because it's seen as almost, like, 955 00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,450 no-fault sex. 956 00:37:59,494 --> 00:38:01,284 And after all, what's he really gonna do? 957 00:38:01,322 --> 00:38:03,062 He's gonna give you a great big hickey, 958 00:38:03,106 --> 00:38:04,716 like on Lover's Lane. 959 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,280 [dark music] 960 00:38:06,327 --> 00:38:08,897 But that's not the way it's supposed to--to be. 961 00:38:08,938 --> 00:38:12,288 To my mind, I'm a classicist, man. 962 00:38:12,333 --> 00:38:14,773 - [growling] 963 00:38:14,814 --> 00:38:17,124 - [hissing] - Hey! Stop! 964 00:38:17,164 --> 00:38:19,174 - [hissing] - Who are you people? 965 00:38:19,209 --> 00:38:20,599 - [screeches] - [grunts] 966 00:38:20,646 --> 00:38:22,596 [screams] - [screeches] 967 00:38:22,648 --> 00:38:25,298 - "30 Days of Night" took vampires back 968 00:38:25,346 --> 00:38:27,696 to their dark and vicious roots. 969 00:38:27,740 --> 00:38:30,740 There are no sparkling, romantic demigods here... 970 00:38:30,786 --> 00:38:32,696 - [screams] - Just ancient 971 00:38:32,745 --> 00:38:36,135 evil predators. [vampires screeching] 972 00:38:36,183 --> 00:38:37,753 [sinister music] 973 00:38:37,793 --> 00:38:41,103 - Well, in "30 Days of Night," my character is-- 974 00:38:41,144 --> 00:38:44,674 is a sheriff up in Barrow, Alaska. 975 00:38:44,713 --> 00:38:46,373 And in Barrow, Alaska, 976 00:38:46,411 --> 00:38:48,761 apparently, the sun is down 977 00:38:48,804 --> 00:38:50,854 for almost a month in the middle of winter. 978 00:38:50,893 --> 00:38:52,633 Hence the "30 Days of Night" title. 979 00:38:52,678 --> 00:38:55,548 ♪ 980 00:38:55,594 --> 00:38:57,604 Vampires have figured out that this is 981 00:38:57,639 --> 00:39:00,379 a really good place to go and have a low-effort meal. 982 00:39:00,425 --> 00:39:01,985 We have to cut off, or they'll hear you. 983 00:39:02,035 --> 00:39:04,335 The vampires close in on the town... 984 00:39:04,385 --> 00:39:06,165 I'll call you back when it's safe. 985 00:39:06,213 --> 00:39:08,693 And then the rest of us who are there 986 00:39:08,737 --> 00:39:10,907 try to survive for a month. 987 00:39:10,957 --> 00:39:12,177 [loud bang] - [gasps] 988 00:39:12,219 --> 00:39:13,309 - Jesus! 989 00:39:13,351 --> 00:39:15,351 Christ! [banging] 990 00:39:15,396 --> 00:39:17,306 [engine revving] 991 00:39:17,355 --> 00:39:19,225 - [yelps] - [screeches] 992 00:39:19,269 --> 00:39:21,619 - We spend a lot of time running away. 993 00:39:21,663 --> 00:39:23,323 [laughs] 994 00:39:23,361 --> 00:39:25,541 - David Slade's "30 Days of Night"-- 995 00:39:25,580 --> 00:39:27,060 which was written by Steve Niles 996 00:39:27,103 --> 00:39:28,453 and based on the graphic novel-- 997 00:39:28,496 --> 00:39:30,146 that was the complete antithesis 998 00:39:30,193 --> 00:39:31,853 of what "Twilight" represented. 999 00:39:31,891 --> 00:39:33,551 - [hissing] 1000 00:39:33,588 --> 00:39:35,328 [suspenseful music] 1001 00:39:35,373 --> 00:39:36,983 - With "Twilight," 1002 00:39:37,026 --> 00:39:38,806 there was always this friendly side. 1003 00:39:38,854 --> 00:39:40,774 They always managed to find, like, a friendly human side 1004 00:39:40,813 --> 00:39:42,903 to the vampires. 1005 00:39:42,945 --> 00:39:45,115 When I was doing the scripts for "30 Days of Night," 1006 00:39:45,165 --> 00:39:48,295 I really tried to go against what everybody else was doing. 1007 00:39:48,342 --> 00:39:49,952 - [growls] 1008 00:39:49,996 --> 00:39:53,426 - You had vampires returning to their feral form, 1009 00:39:53,478 --> 00:39:54,868 almost Nosferatu-like 1010 00:39:54,914 --> 00:39:57,264 but something completely different. 1011 00:39:57,307 --> 00:39:58,657 - [screeches] - [hollers] 1012 00:39:58,700 --> 00:40:01,360 [screams] - These are land sharks 1013 00:40:01,399 --> 00:40:04,449 that will kill you, you know, just as soon as look at you. 1014 00:40:04,489 --> 00:40:06,709 [sinister music] 1015 00:40:06,752 --> 00:40:09,322 - [screeches] - By stripping the sexuality 1016 00:40:09,363 --> 00:40:11,763 out of the myth, "30 Days of Night" 1017 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,060 drilled deep into the primal fear 1018 00:40:14,107 --> 00:40:17,197 at the heart of every vampire story: 1019 00:40:17,240 --> 00:40:19,720 the fear of death. - [roars] 1020 00:40:19,765 --> 00:40:22,115 [dramatic music] 1021 00:40:22,158 --> 00:40:24,068 - One of the most beautiful things about 1022 00:40:24,117 --> 00:40:26,507 the horror genre is that the stakes 1023 00:40:26,554 --> 00:40:28,254 are implicitly high, 1024 00:40:28,295 --> 00:40:30,115 because you're dealing with life and death. 1025 00:40:30,166 --> 00:40:32,206 - [hollering] 1026 00:40:32,255 --> 00:40:34,905 - And that gives horror 1027 00:40:34,954 --> 00:40:37,484 a certain operatic quality to it, 1028 00:40:37,522 --> 00:40:39,702 where there is no choice 1029 00:40:39,741 --> 00:40:42,351 but to survive and thrive 1030 00:40:42,396 --> 00:40:44,566 or be one of the body count. 1031 00:40:44,616 --> 00:40:46,266 ♪ 1032 00:40:46,313 --> 00:40:47,793 - [croaking] - [screams] 1033 00:40:47,836 --> 00:40:50,666 - Ultimately, the story of the vampire 1034 00:40:50,709 --> 00:40:53,279 is the story of our tenuous grip on life. 1035 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,060 - I don't want to die. - [screams] 1036 00:40:55,104 --> 00:40:57,374 - The bite of the vampire symbolizes 1037 00:40:57,411 --> 00:40:59,591 the hundreds of things that could kill us 1038 00:40:59,631 --> 00:41:02,241 at any time, no matter how healthy or safe 1039 00:41:02,285 --> 00:41:03,765 we think we are. 1040 00:41:03,809 --> 00:41:05,419 - [screeches] 1041 00:41:05,463 --> 00:41:08,033 - Your life force will never be 1042 00:41:08,074 --> 00:41:11,904 steadily drained by an implacable 1043 00:41:11,947 --> 00:41:13,467 supernatural foe. 1044 00:41:13,514 --> 00:41:15,474 [eerie music] 1045 00:41:15,516 --> 00:41:17,036 But some people 1046 00:41:17,083 --> 00:41:19,133 will face cancer 1047 00:41:19,172 --> 00:41:20,872 in their life. 1048 00:41:20,913 --> 00:41:22,523 - [screams] - Fiction gives us 1049 00:41:22,567 --> 00:41:25,527 a safe playground to consider 1050 00:41:25,570 --> 00:41:27,440 what it would be like to be in 1051 00:41:27,485 --> 00:41:29,135 a life-or-death battle with something draining us. 1052 00:41:29,182 --> 00:41:35,882 ♪ 1053 00:41:35,928 --> 00:41:38,758 Vampire stories will remain powerful 1054 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,590 as long as we are organic 1055 00:41:41,629 --> 00:41:43,499 and full of blood. 1056 00:41:43,544 --> 00:41:47,114 And the blood can be corrupted. 1057 00:41:47,156 --> 00:41:49,936 - [gasps] - So I think the fanged ones 1058 00:41:49,985 --> 00:41:51,675 will be around for a while longer. 1059 00:41:51,726 --> 00:41:54,206 [vampires hissing, growling] 70633

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