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- Is there someone inside you?
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- I love, love,
love possession films.
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- Sink.
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[weird laughter]
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- Possession stories
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touch on our fear
of losing control--
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control of our bodies,
of our lives, of our mind.
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- One day, we could be
our normal selves,
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and the next day
be a raging lunatic
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spouting arcane languages
or obscenities.
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- The sow is mine.
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both: The power of
Christ compels you!
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- "The Exorcist" is held up
as being the holy grail,
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rightfully so,
of possession movies.
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- I'm the devil.
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- The world was afraid
of this movie,
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and they were afraid of me.
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- "The Omen" is like
my hands-down
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favorite horror movie.
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- Look at me, Damien.
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- There's just something
inherently creepy about kids.
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- Your loved one is not
who you assumed they were,
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and we saw that
to wonderful effect
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in both
of the "Evil Dead" films.
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- You're bitten by your
girlfriend who's possessed.
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Your hand's
gonna get possessed,
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so your hand's
gonna attack you.
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[screams]
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- Looks like something bit you.
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- "Paranormal Activity"
was a game-changer for me.
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- It was a new way in.
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- Get out.
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- "Get Out"
is a possession film.
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- It is a possession film.
- [laughs]
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- A force that's evil.
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They have nothing
but bad intentions for you.
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- [shrieks]
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- Oh, my God!
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What am I seeing happen?
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[dark music]
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♪
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[gibbering]
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[motor revs]
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- The fear that demons
will enter our bodies
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and make us do terrible things
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has haunted mankind
for millennia.
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- [shrieking]
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- In recent times,
it has inspired some of
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the most frightening films
ever made...
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Fever dreams like
"Night of the Demons"
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and "Hellraiser"...
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- We'll tear your soul apart.
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- Fictionalized
case histories,
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such as "The Exorcism
of Emily Rose"
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and "The Last Exorcism."
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The nightmare of being taken
over by a sinister force
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can be seen as a metaphor
for mental illness,
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but what if these films
reflect a deeper truth--
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a truth about the nature
of good and evil?
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- In the name of Jesus Christ,
the saints, and all the angels,
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I command you
to reveal yourself!
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- [wailing]
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- Demons are real.
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We're so used
to seeing the world
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in just very few dimensions--
time and space,
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depth and appearance.
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There is so much more at work
in our universe
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than that which
just meets the naked eye.
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- Though our fears
are ancient,
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films about demonic
possession
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are a relatively
recent phenomenon.
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Hollywood's self-censoring
Motion Picture Production Code
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set strict rules on content
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from the early 1930s
to the late 1960s.
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- There is no room
on the screen
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at any time for pictures which
offend against common decency.
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- Outside of the Swedish film
"Haxan" from 1922,
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full-on demonic possessions
do not appear on screen
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until 1973...
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the year of "The Exorcist."
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- Obviously, "The Exorcist"
is held up
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as being the holy grail,
rightfully so,
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of possession movies.
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[dark chords]
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- "The Exorcist"
is about a priest
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that had his own demons
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he had been following
years prior.
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♪
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Years later, he finds himself
in the same position
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with this same demon,
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but this time,
it's inside of a young girl.
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The whole thing was to
draw in Father Merrin
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to get him to do war--
battle one more time.
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- Captain Howdy?
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- Linda Blair's character,
Regan,
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becomes another person because
this demon is inside of her.
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- I'm Damien Karras.
- And I'm the devil.
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Now kindly undo
these straps.
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- If you're the devil, why not
make the straps disappear?
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- That's much too vulgar
a display of power, Karras.
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- Satan plays the role
of Satan.
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I don't know if that's Satan
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or a bunch of demons.
Doesn't matter.
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- Where's Regan?
- In here with us.
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- The actor is really the one
selling the idea of possession.
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- [moaning]
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- So you've got to have
a great actor
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to play somebody
who's possessed.
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- Ahh!
- Oh! [indistinct shouting]
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- Keep away! The sow is mine!
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Billy Friedkin, the director,
really wanted to make sure
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that Regan was just any generic
all-American little girl.
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- Her transformation
from this very sweet,
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very typical young girl...
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- Oh, Mom,
can't we get a horse?
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- Into a monster I think
comments on this anxiety
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that the young people
of the country were moving away
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from the conservative
norms of society.
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- [screams]
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- It was 1973,
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so we were recently
out of Vietnam,
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and the hippie movement
was still in full swing.
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There was definitely
upheaval going on,
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social upheaval going on,
and generational conflict.
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[whack]
- [screams]
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- You have a mother who's
trying to deal with a daughter
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who has suddenly become
something else,
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and this is what
a lot of parents felt like.
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- The horror stuff
doesn't really come in
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until, like, the second half,
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but the first half
is all sort of upsetting images
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and strange depictions
of medical procedures.
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[unsettling music]
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- It isn't just that medical
science is inadequate;
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it's that medical science
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is even kind of destructive
toward the child.
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Religion is really
the only answer.
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- You ever heard of exorcism?
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[dark chords]
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- By the time
the horror stuff happens,
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the audience is pretty
much desensitized.
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They're already pummeled by
the movie that they've seen,
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and it was extremely
manipulative,
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and not a very nice movie
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in the sense of being good
to the audience.
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- Every time they track down
the hallway to the door,
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the audience did not--
they wanted to but didn't--
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"Yes, no, yes, no"--
to go into that door.
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- It's a hard movie to watch.
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What happens to Linda Blair
is just--it's terrible.
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- The scene where I'm sitting
up and down really fast.
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Please, Mother, make it stop!
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It's basically, like,
a metal brace,
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and then I'm tied in
on each side.
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Unfortunately, they didn't
tie it in really good.
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It fractured my lower spine,
so that's what's on camera,
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and the screaming
and yelling is real.
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- Make it stop!
It's killing me!
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- My mother had gotten
a call saying,
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"Can Jamie audition
for 'The Exorcist'?"
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And my mother said,
"Uh, no. I don't think so."
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And then it came out,
and we screened it
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for my 15th birthday.
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"The Exorcist."
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- Your mother's in here
with us, Karras.
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Would you like
to leave a message?
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- It freaked me so badly
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that for the rest
of my high school life,
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my friends made fun of me,
and they would taunt me.
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"Dami. Dami. Dami, why you
do this to me, Dami?"
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- Dami.
Why you do this to me?
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- "Dami, why you do this
to me, Dami?"
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- You're not my mother!
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- That movie scared me so much
that I'm Jewish,
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and it made me
believe in the devil.
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I would sleep with a rosary
next to my bed every night.
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[Karras, indistinct]
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- I have full-blown
"Exorcist" PTSD, so...
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- What an excellent day
for an exorcism.
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- The whole thing about
"The Exorcist" was, like,
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it may be too intense
for human beings.
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That it wasn't just
a horror film in '73
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when it came out; it was...
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- You were
experiencing the devil.
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- Yeah, and that people, like,
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committed suicide
after they saw "The Exorcist,"
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or people were put in
insane asylums
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after they saw "The Exorcist,"
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and every new issue of
the "National Enquirer" had,
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you know, "My son went crazy
and is in a straitjacket.
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How watching
'The Exorcist' ruined my life."
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- I dream of reviews
like that.
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- People went back
to the church in droves
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after that film came out.
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- The world was afraid
of this movie...
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and they were afraid of me,
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and they wanted to have answers
about good and evil
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and was the devil
really coming?
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[moaning]
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[wailing]
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- There's no place
to hide--your religion,
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your relationship to God.
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No, none of that.
There's no safe haven anywhere.
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Even the afterlife isn't safe.
I mean, you're gonna get there
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and be in hell
like poor Father Damien.
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I mean, it's this idea that
there's literally no escape,
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not even if you're dead.
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That is, you know,
to me the idea of pure horror.
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- [moaning]
No!
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[Regan screams]
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- I think it's the greatest
horror film ever made,
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and that's the horror film
that I think that will never
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be duplicated, all right?
I don't see...
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- I agree. I don't think
it'll ever be beat.
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- [grunts]
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- "The Exorcist" drew on
all the resources
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of Hollywood in the 1970s,
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one of the peak periods
of American film.
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[loud thud]
Decades later,
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a first-time director
shooting in his house
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proved you don't need a big
budget or special effects
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to bring a demonic possession
to terrifying life.
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- I can feel it watching me.
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- In 2007, software engineer
Oren Peli
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decided to make
a low-budget movie
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about a demonic possession.
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The result was
"Paranormal Activity,"
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the most profitable film
of all time,
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and one of the most
unnerving movies ever made.
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- Oren made the movie
for $15,000.
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He shot it at his house.
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He had a crew
of about three people.
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- And the crew consisted of
my girlfriend at the time,
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and then my best friend,
Amir, I told him,
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"I'm gonna shoot a movie.
Do you want to help me?"
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And he said,
"Sure. It sounds fun,
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but I don't know anything
about making movies."
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I said, "Perfect.
Neither do I."
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- All right,
we're operational, babe.
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- Ooh.
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- Shot entirely in
the found footage style,
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the story follows
Micah and Katie,
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a young suburban couple
who move into a new house
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that seems to be haunted.
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In fact, Katie is being
tormented by a demon
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that feeds
off of negative energy.
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[loud thud]
both: [screaming]
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- [muttering] out there.
249
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[thud]
- Aah!
250
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- There is a difference
between a ghost and a demon.
251
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Ghosts are simply the spirits
of people who died.
252
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They don't want to move on,
253
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and they kind of linger around
in their own dimension.
254
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But demons
are inherently evil,
255
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want to possess people...
256
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- Feel it?
[panting]
257
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I feel it breathing on me.
258
00:12:31,315 --> 00:12:34,005
- But a demon is attached
to a person.
259
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Leaving the house
doesn't really solve anything.
260
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They're still gonna follow you
wherever you're gonna go.
261
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- It's not the house.
It's me.
262
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You know,
wherever I go, it goes.
263
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- Micah sets up cameras
264
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to record
the supernatural events,
265
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which makes things worse.
266
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- It felt very much like
what would happen to anyone
267
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if they were
going through that.
268
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- What is your quest?
269
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- The sounds,
wanting to record it,
270
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playing with the Ouija board.
271
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- Got something to say?
272
00:13:00,823 --> 00:13:02,093
- That moment...
- When he was talking to
273
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a Ouija board.
- Yeah.
274
00:13:03,739 --> 00:13:04,739
- You're like...
- Oh, I was like,
275
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"Run, mother[bleep]. Run!"
276
00:13:07,482 --> 00:13:09,792
- As the couple grows
more desperate,
277
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the demon trying
to possess Katie
278
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grows stronger and stronger.
279
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- Just let's go.
Please, let's go.
280
00:13:16,056 --> 00:13:19,616
- "Paranormal Activity"
was a game-changer for me,
281
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because it just showed,
with a minimalist approach,
282
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you can scare the [bleep] out
of people with mostly pacing...
283
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- Mm-hmm.
- And the way
284
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you tell the story.
285
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I mean, like,
what happens in that movie?
286
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A couple sheets come off,
you know, the bed,
287
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the girl gets pulled
through the door,
288
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and yet, when they come up on,
like, day 28 or whatnot,
289
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and you know some [bleep]
about to go down,
290
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I remember the entire audience
291
00:13:44,867 --> 00:13:46,957
going, "Ohhh."
- [chuckles]
292
00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,870
- Aaaaaahhhhh!
293
00:13:48,915 --> 00:13:50,995
- Oh--
294
00:13:51,047 --> 00:13:52,607
- There's something about
the vulnerability
295
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that you have
while you're asleep,
296
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and which I think is
something very kind of
297
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engrained in human nature
from the days we were cavemen,
298
00:14:01,057 --> 00:14:02,887
and you don't know if a tiger
is gonna come into your cave
299
00:14:02,929 --> 00:14:05,579
and kill you
while you're asleep.
300
00:14:05,627 --> 00:14:08,887
- And the fact that that movie
shattered that space and said,
301
00:14:08,935 --> 00:14:10,625
"Well, when you go
home tonight,
302
00:14:10,675 --> 00:14:12,845
"you're gonna be thinking
about what this couple
303
00:14:12,895 --> 00:14:15,635
endured in that bedroom,"
it's incredibly effective.
304
00:14:18,596 --> 00:14:21,466
- "Paranormal Activity's"
goal was simple:
305
00:14:21,512 --> 00:14:23,432
to scare the audience.
306
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[loud thud]
- [screaming]
307
00:14:25,865 --> 00:14:27,425
- Jen?
308
00:14:27,475 --> 00:14:29,255
- The horror/comedy
"Jennifer's Body"
309
00:14:29,303 --> 00:14:32,783
had a serious
and uniquely feminist agenda,
310
00:14:32,828 --> 00:14:34,698
using demonic possession
311
00:14:34,743 --> 00:14:37,443
to comment on the hell
of being a teenage girl
312
00:14:37,485 --> 00:14:39,485
in a culture
obsessed with appearance.
313
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- Hi, Jennifer.
You look really pretty.
314
00:14:41,837 --> 00:14:44,407
- What up, Craig?
315
00:14:44,448 --> 00:14:48,928
- Jennifer is a alpha
female bitch
316
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who is beautiful and popular,
317
00:14:51,325 --> 00:14:55,935
and Needy is her
worshipful nerdy friend.
318
00:14:55,982 --> 00:14:58,202
Jennifer is actually
a really intelligent,
319
00:14:58,245 --> 00:15:02,115
clever, interesting person,
but nobody cares about that.
320
00:15:02,162 --> 00:15:05,432
- Jennifer is cursed
before she is cursed,
321
00:15:05,469 --> 00:15:08,949
because all people can do
is look at her,
322
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as opposed to engage
with her.
323
00:15:11,388 --> 00:15:14,958
It's an incredibly dehumanized
place to be living in.
324
00:15:15,001 --> 00:15:16,521
- She does have
this incredible power
325
00:15:16,567 --> 00:15:18,347
that comes with her beauty.
She uses it.
326
00:15:18,395 --> 00:15:21,875
- These are like
smart bombs, okay?
327
00:15:21,921 --> 00:15:23,231
You point them
in the right direction,
328
00:15:23,270 --> 00:15:25,750
and [bleep] gets real.
329
00:15:25,794 --> 00:15:28,194
- But it's not nearly
as satisfying to her
330
00:15:28,231 --> 00:15:32,241
as when she actually gets
these supernatural powers.
331
00:15:32,279 --> 00:15:37,679
Jennifer is the victim of
a demonic ritual gone wrong.
332
00:15:37,719 --> 00:15:40,199
This rock band, in an attempt
to become famous...
333
00:15:40,243 --> 00:15:41,513
- Do you know how hard it is
to make it
334
00:15:41,549 --> 00:15:43,379
as an indie band these days?
335
00:15:43,420 --> 00:15:46,470
- Attempt to murder her because
they think she is a virgin
336
00:15:46,510 --> 00:15:48,600
and that they are
sacrificing a virgin.
337
00:15:48,643 --> 00:15:52,653
- [screaming]
[guys singing]
338
00:15:52,690 --> 00:15:54,080
- But she is not a virgin,
339
00:15:54,127 --> 00:15:56,957
and as a result,
the spell goes haywire,
340
00:15:56,999 --> 00:16:00,129
and Jennifer is possessed
by a demon
341
00:16:00,176 --> 00:16:03,136
and starts eating boys
to satisfy the demon,
342
00:16:03,179 --> 00:16:04,919
and Needy has to stop her.
343
00:16:06,922 --> 00:16:09,232
I am rooting for Jennifer
when I watch the movie.
344
00:16:10,404 --> 00:16:13,494
This idea of just being,
like, hot and invincible...
345
00:16:13,537 --> 00:16:16,057
- I feel so scrumptious.
346
00:16:16,105 --> 00:16:19,015
- Was about how teenage girls
are objectified,
347
00:16:19,065 --> 00:16:23,105
it was about
female sexual appetites.
348
00:16:23,156 --> 00:16:25,026
It was about the idea
349
00:16:25,071 --> 00:16:26,641
of puberty
being a transformative thing
350
00:16:26,681 --> 00:16:28,771
and using a sort of
a monstrous transformation
351
00:16:28,813 --> 00:16:30,213
as a way of talking about that.
352
00:16:30,250 --> 00:16:32,560
- [shrieking]
353
00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,470
- Are you scared?
354
00:16:34,515 --> 00:16:36,815
- The notion of the female
as monstrous
355
00:16:36,865 --> 00:16:40,425
in itself has been
a central tenet of horror,
356
00:16:40,477 --> 00:16:41,997
and that's what remains
357
00:16:42,044 --> 00:16:44,834
profoundly meaningful
to me about horror
358
00:16:44,873 --> 00:16:49,013
is it's one of the few genres
that's had the guts to say,
359
00:16:49,051 --> 00:16:53,061
as a culture, we are terrified
of women and girls.
360
00:16:53,099 --> 00:16:54,269
- Hi.
361
00:16:58,582 --> 00:17:00,242
- But it was so freeing
for me
362
00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,850
to be able to explore
those themes in a completely
363
00:17:02,891 --> 00:17:05,461
just heightened gory
bananas atmosphere.
364
00:17:05,502 --> 00:17:07,592
You know, they have this fight
at the end of the movie,
365
00:17:07,635 --> 00:17:10,895
and Needy stabs
Jennifer in the heart,
366
00:17:10,942 --> 00:17:12,512
and it's like my way
of saying, like,
367
00:17:12,553 --> 00:17:14,823
"You're all staring
at this girl's breasts..."
368
00:17:14,859 --> 00:17:17,949
- My tit.
- No. Your heart.
369
00:17:17,993 --> 00:17:20,043
- But what this is really
about is her feelings.
370
00:17:20,082 --> 00:17:23,742
You don't get to do
over-the-top stuff like that
371
00:17:23,781 --> 00:17:25,261
in a more understated genre.
372
00:17:25,305 --> 00:17:26,915
You can only do that
in a horror movie.
373
00:17:26,958 --> 00:17:29,958
- You know what?
You were never a good friend.
374
00:17:31,137 --> 00:17:33,007
- "Jennifer's Body"
got a mixed reception
375
00:17:33,052 --> 00:17:34,712
on its release,
376
00:17:34,749 --> 00:17:37,099
but the director's cut
is now a cult favorite.
377
00:17:37,143 --> 00:17:38,623
- You got a tampon?
378
00:17:38,666 --> 00:17:41,096
- Stylistically,
it owes a debt
379
00:17:41,147 --> 00:17:44,717
to one of the most influential
cult movies of all time:
380
00:17:47,066 --> 00:17:48,756
"The Evil Dead."
381
00:17:53,724 --> 00:17:55,684
- When it comes to demonic
possession movies,
382
00:17:55,726 --> 00:17:58,986
few can match the manic energy
and no-holds-barred horror
383
00:17:59,034 --> 00:18:02,124
of Sam Raimi's film,
"The Evil Dead."
384
00:18:02,168 --> 00:18:04,948
- Hey, Scotty, what's this
place like, anyway?
385
00:18:04,996 --> 00:18:06,556
- Well, the guy
that's renting it says
386
00:18:06,607 --> 00:18:08,647
it's an old place--
a little run down,
387
00:18:08,696 --> 00:18:10,786
but it's right up
in the mountains.
388
00:18:10,828 --> 00:18:12,698
- "The Evil Dead"
is about a group
389
00:18:12,743 --> 00:18:16,923
of fairly dumb college kids
who go out to a remote cabin
390
00:18:16,965 --> 00:18:20,135
in the woods
to have a fun little break.
391
00:18:20,186 --> 00:18:21,926
They see the cabin.
They should be running
392
00:18:21,970 --> 00:18:23,620
in the opposite direction
to the nearest Motel 6,
393
00:18:23,667 --> 00:18:26,577
but instead, they go in.
They promptly find
394
00:18:26,627 --> 00:18:29,277
a reel-to-reel recorder
in the basement,
395
00:18:29,325 --> 00:18:30,845
which of course they play.
396
00:18:30,892 --> 00:18:32,852
[voice chanting]
397
00:18:32,894 --> 00:18:34,814
It contains
demonic incantations
398
00:18:34,852 --> 00:18:37,032
that wake up the dead.
399
00:18:37,072 --> 00:18:39,072
- Shut it off!
400
00:18:39,118 --> 00:18:40,858
- [screams]
- Oh, my God!
401
00:18:40,902 --> 00:18:44,382
- Dead rise and proceed
to possess these kids
402
00:18:44,427 --> 00:18:47,687
one by one, and carnage
and mayhem ensues.
403
00:18:47,735 --> 00:18:48,995
- [roars]
404
00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:50,390
- Oh!
405
00:18:50,433 --> 00:18:52,653
- It seems like
the simplest setup,
406
00:18:52,696 --> 00:18:55,176
but man,
oh, man, it was relentless.
407
00:18:55,221 --> 00:18:57,051
- And you're just,
like, blown away.
408
00:18:57,092 --> 00:19:00,362
- Why have you disturbed
our sleep,
409
00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:04,670
awakened us from our
ancient slumber?
410
00:19:04,708 --> 00:19:06,318
You will die!
411
00:19:06,362 --> 00:19:09,972
- What is fascinating
about the possession genre
412
00:19:10,018 --> 00:19:13,888
of horror films
is your loved one
413
00:19:13,935 --> 00:19:16,675
is not who
you assumed they were.
414
00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,900
- [screeching]
415
00:19:18,940 --> 00:19:20,460
[cackling]
416
00:19:20,507 --> 00:19:23,067
- That's the most
terrifying thing,
417
00:19:23,118 --> 00:19:25,378
and we saw that
to wonderful effect
418
00:19:25,425 --> 00:19:27,115
in both of
the "Evil Dead" films.
419
00:19:33,389 --> 00:19:36,519
- And it was this grainy,
16-millimeter movie
420
00:19:36,566 --> 00:19:39,606
that you could tell was,
like, made by amateurs
421
00:19:39,656 --> 00:19:41,616
with that kind of, like,
single-spotlight lighting
422
00:19:41,658 --> 00:19:43,048
and everything else.
423
00:19:43,094 --> 00:19:45,714
- [screaming]
424
00:19:45,749 --> 00:19:48,449
- But at the same time
was really scary,
425
00:19:48,491 --> 00:19:50,621
and--I mean, Sam was trying
to make a scary movie.
426
00:19:50,667 --> 00:19:52,577
[dark chords]
427
00:19:52,626 --> 00:19:56,846
- The first person had to get
injured by one of these demons,
428
00:19:56,891 --> 00:19:59,891
so we did it the first
character's kneeling down,
429
00:19:59,937 --> 00:20:03,107
and the demon gets a pencil
and stabs it in the ankle.
430
00:20:06,901 --> 00:20:09,251
That one got a big reaction
out of the audience,
431
00:20:09,295 --> 00:20:11,035
'cause I don't think they knew
432
00:20:11,079 --> 00:20:14,209
how visceral the movie
was gonna be until it started.
433
00:20:14,256 --> 00:20:16,996
- I fear that the only way
to stop those possessed
434
00:20:17,041 --> 00:20:18,611
by the spirits of the book
435
00:20:18,652 --> 00:20:21,352
is through the act
of bodily dismemberment.
436
00:20:21,394 --> 00:20:23,704
- So whenever you hear that
you can only stop something
437
00:20:23,744 --> 00:20:25,354
through bodily dismemberment,
you know you're gonna be in
438
00:20:25,398 --> 00:20:27,968
for a good show of gore
and horror, right?
439
00:20:28,009 --> 00:20:30,579
- [screeches]
440
00:20:34,450 --> 00:20:36,060
- Ohh! Ohh!
441
00:20:38,062 --> 00:20:41,942
There is always the standard
aspect of the scream queen...
442
00:20:41,979 --> 00:20:43,549
- [screams]
- [screams]
443
00:20:43,590 --> 00:20:45,680
[screams]
444
00:20:45,722 --> 00:20:47,512
Sam wanted to up it.
445
00:20:47,550 --> 00:20:51,380
He thought it was one thing
to have a woman scream,
446
00:20:51,424 --> 00:20:54,434
but what if you made
a man scream like a girl?
447
00:20:54,470 --> 00:20:59,820
[screaming]
448
00:20:59,867 --> 00:21:01,777
Like, "I want it to be
that horrifying."
449
00:21:03,523 --> 00:21:05,443
[screams]
450
00:21:07,353 --> 00:21:09,493
- There was also something
else about "Evil Dead"
451
00:21:09,529 --> 00:21:11,839
that made it
particularly cool was,
452
00:21:11,879 --> 00:21:13,319
well, you had to get it.
453
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,489
Not everyone could get it.
454
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,280
It was cheap,
455
00:21:20,322 --> 00:21:23,542
so you had to be able to
not just look beyond that;
456
00:21:23,586 --> 00:21:25,846
you had to embrace it.
457
00:21:25,893 --> 00:21:29,113
- [screaming]
458
00:21:29,157 --> 00:21:31,457
- It is scary,
but there is a really weird
459
00:21:31,507 --> 00:21:35,417
sense of humor that,
if you're not in line with it,
460
00:21:35,468 --> 00:21:37,908
you're gonna think, "Oh,
that's just a piece of junk."
461
00:21:37,948 --> 00:21:40,728
[dramatic music]
462
00:21:40,777 --> 00:21:43,347
- In 1981, "The Evil Dead"
463
00:21:43,389 --> 00:21:45,909
launched the career
of its gifted director,
464
00:21:45,956 --> 00:21:48,386
21-year-old Sam Raimi.
465
00:21:49,699 --> 00:21:53,529
Six years later, Raimi
returned with "Evil Dead 2,"
466
00:21:53,573 --> 00:21:57,493
a wildly creative remake
of the first film.
467
00:21:57,533 --> 00:21:59,273
- With "Evil Dead 2"
in particular,
468
00:21:59,318 --> 00:22:00,928
I think Sam Raimi just said,
469
00:22:00,971 --> 00:22:03,061
"You know what?
Let's just go for it."
470
00:22:03,104 --> 00:22:04,674
- [grunting]
471
00:22:04,714 --> 00:22:06,114
- Let's just embrace the fun.
472
00:22:07,282 --> 00:22:09,202
- You're bitten by your
girlfriend,
473
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,200
who's possessed, your hand's
gonna get possessed,
474
00:22:11,242 --> 00:22:12,942
so your hand's gonna
attack you.
475
00:22:12,983 --> 00:22:17,343
[screaming]
476
00:22:17,379 --> 00:22:18,949
It was just a long,
grueling sequence.
477
00:22:18,989 --> 00:22:22,039
[screaming]
478
00:22:24,473 --> 00:22:26,083
- It's like,
get the Three Stooges,
479
00:22:26,127 --> 00:22:27,427
but give them a chainsaw...
480
00:22:27,476 --> 00:22:29,696
[heroic music]
481
00:22:29,739 --> 00:22:31,829
And see what would happen.
482
00:22:40,184 --> 00:22:41,934
- Groovy.
483
00:22:41,969 --> 00:22:46,099
- If you're a movie-mad
young guy in your early 20s
484
00:22:46,147 --> 00:22:48,757
and you see "Evil Dead 2,"
485
00:22:48,802 --> 00:22:50,892
and you see
that shooting style,
486
00:22:50,934 --> 00:22:53,114
it's like,
"Well, what's the point
487
00:22:53,154 --> 00:22:55,684
of ever shooting
any movie not like that?"
488
00:22:55,722 --> 00:22:57,592
- I know.
- All right? That seemed like,
489
00:22:57,637 --> 00:22:59,937
"Okay, a new shooting style
has been developed,
490
00:22:59,987 --> 00:23:02,507
and everything else looks
old-fashioned by comparison."
491
00:23:02,555 --> 00:23:04,295
- [screaming]
492
00:23:04,339 --> 00:23:06,249
- Every single thing
just seems
493
00:23:06,297 --> 00:23:07,997
old-fashioned and dated
494
00:23:08,038 --> 00:23:09,558
unless you're doing that.
495
00:23:14,654 --> 00:23:16,574
- "The Evil Dead"
pitted a regular guy
496
00:23:16,612 --> 00:23:18,752
against a horde of demons,
497
00:23:18,788 --> 00:23:20,568
but what chance do you have
498
00:23:20,616 --> 00:23:23,486
when you're up
against Satan himself?
499
00:23:23,532 --> 00:23:26,102
[dark music]
500
00:23:28,494 --> 00:23:30,104
- Christianity teaches
501
00:23:30,147 --> 00:23:31,497
that Jesus Christ
was the son of God,
502
00:23:31,540 --> 00:23:33,110
born of mortal woman.
503
00:23:33,150 --> 00:23:35,370
What if Satan decided
that he too
504
00:23:35,414 --> 00:23:37,204
would father a child?
505
00:23:37,241 --> 00:23:41,381
In 1968, Roman Polanski's
film "Rosemary's Baby"
506
00:23:41,420 --> 00:23:44,950
explored the links between
pregnancy, parenthood,
507
00:23:44,988 --> 00:23:47,508
and demonic possession.
508
00:23:47,556 --> 00:23:49,426
- [whispers] You're pregnant.
509
00:23:49,471 --> 00:23:51,911
- "Rosemary's Baby"
is a really interesting film,
510
00:23:51,952 --> 00:23:54,082
because, artistically,
it's one of the best films
511
00:23:54,128 --> 00:23:56,478
to come out in that era
and probably ever.
512
00:23:56,522 --> 00:24:00,482
- I'm Rosemary Woodhouse.
- Uh, we're in 7E.
513
00:24:00,526 --> 00:24:03,346
- That movie made $30 million
514
00:24:03,398 --> 00:24:06,838
back when movies
didn't make $30 million,
515
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,190
not in their first run.
516
00:24:09,230 --> 00:24:14,060
I mean, if a movie
made $12 million, "Oh, wow."
517
00:24:14,104 --> 00:24:16,154
- That's a huge hit.
- That's a smash.
518
00:24:16,193 --> 00:24:18,243
- It's a phenomenon.
- It was a phenomenon.
519
00:24:18,282 --> 00:24:19,982
And the devil
had never been dealt with
520
00:24:20,023 --> 00:24:23,163
in that realistic
a form before.
521
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,070
- It's a hugely
important film,
522
00:24:25,115 --> 00:24:26,595
because it's portraying
a woman
523
00:24:26,639 --> 00:24:29,509
at the height
of second-wave feminism.
524
00:24:29,555 --> 00:24:32,115
It also coincides
with a rise in interest
525
00:24:32,166 --> 00:24:34,906
in all kinds of alternative
religions and occultism
526
00:24:34,951 --> 00:24:36,561
that was happening
in the '60s.
527
00:24:36,605 --> 00:24:38,955
- It was a period
where there was, you know,
528
00:24:38,999 --> 00:24:41,479
questioning, you know, God,
the existence of God.
529
00:24:41,523 --> 00:24:43,093
I think it was even on
"Time" magazine,
530
00:24:43,133 --> 00:24:44,613
you know, "Is God Dead?"
531
00:24:44,657 --> 00:24:47,047
- No, you're not religious,
my dear, are you?
532
00:24:47,094 --> 00:24:50,494
- I was brought up a Catholic.
Now I don't know.
533
00:24:50,532 --> 00:24:52,142
- In "Rosemary's Baby,"
534
00:24:52,186 --> 00:24:54,796
the heroine
is drugged by Satanists.
535
00:24:54,841 --> 00:24:57,761
Then the devil literally
enters her through rape.
536
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,280
- She's awake. She sees.
- Can't see or hear.
537
00:25:00,324 --> 00:25:02,204
She's like dead. Now sing.
538
00:25:02,239 --> 00:25:04,019
[whispering voices]
539
00:25:04,067 --> 00:25:07,237
- Rosemary becomes pregnant
with Satan's child.
540
00:25:07,288 --> 00:25:10,858
- This is no dream.
This is really happening!
541
00:25:10,900 --> 00:25:13,950
- "Rosemary's Baby"
was a possession movie.
542
00:25:13,990 --> 00:25:17,340
It was about someone carrying
the seed of Satan within her
543
00:25:17,385 --> 00:25:19,515
and giving birth
to Satan's child.
544
00:25:19,561 --> 00:25:24,701
This is actually
how Satan or his minions
545
00:25:24,740 --> 00:25:26,870
can infest each of us
546
00:25:26,916 --> 00:25:29,476
and draw out
the evil within us.
547
00:25:29,528 --> 00:25:31,748
- It, to me,
remains a metaphor
548
00:25:31,791 --> 00:25:33,971
about domestic violence,
549
00:25:34,010 --> 00:25:37,320
about emotional violence
in relationships
550
00:25:37,361 --> 00:25:38,891
between men and women,
551
00:25:38,928 --> 00:25:41,408
largely inflicted
by men onto women.
552
00:25:41,452 --> 00:25:42,762
- I didn't want to
miss baby night.
553
00:25:42,802 --> 00:25:44,332
- You--while I was out?
554
00:25:44,368 --> 00:25:46,018
- And a couple of my nails
were ragged,
555
00:25:46,066 --> 00:25:50,066
and it was kind of fun
in a necrophile sort of way.
556
00:25:50,113 --> 00:25:51,993
[ominous chords]
557
00:25:52,028 --> 00:25:53,898
- When I saw "Rosemary's Baby"
when I was very young,
558
00:25:53,943 --> 00:25:56,253
I don't think I thought, "Oh,
this is female consciousness,"
559
00:25:56,293 --> 00:25:59,083
but obviously,
there aren't that many movies
560
00:25:59,122 --> 00:26:02,302
from within a young woman's
point of view.
561
00:26:02,343 --> 00:26:04,953
We know Polanski's guilty
of all these things
562
00:26:04,998 --> 00:26:07,648
in his personal life,
but as a filmmaker,
563
00:26:07,696 --> 00:26:10,696
he's incredibly sympathetic
to the female point of view.
564
00:26:10,743 --> 00:26:12,613
And the relationship
between Rosemary
565
00:26:12,658 --> 00:26:14,878
and her husband is fantastic.
566
00:26:14,921 --> 00:26:17,491
- John Cassavetes'
amazing performance
567
00:26:17,532 --> 00:26:19,142
as the desperate actor
568
00:26:19,186 --> 00:26:21,446
who will do anything
to get that big break.
569
00:26:21,492 --> 00:26:23,492
- Let's have a baby,
all right?
570
00:26:23,538 --> 00:26:25,318
- Rosemary's very much
the lovely,
571
00:26:25,366 --> 00:26:27,626
submissive wife who is there
to help her husband out,
572
00:26:27,673 --> 00:26:29,503
and what that gets her
573
00:26:29,544 --> 00:26:32,034
is getting impregnated
by the devil.
574
00:26:32,068 --> 00:26:34,108
Her husband basically
sells her to Satan
575
00:26:34,157 --> 00:26:36,067
in exchange for a Broadway hit.
576
00:26:36,116 --> 00:26:38,636
- Oh, I got the part.
577
00:26:38,684 --> 00:26:41,644
It was a hell of
a way to get it.
578
00:26:41,687 --> 00:26:43,247
[ominous chords]
579
00:26:43,297 --> 00:26:44,857
- One of the things
I really love about horror
580
00:26:44,907 --> 00:26:47,167
and the nightmares
that it touches on
581
00:26:47,214 --> 00:26:50,784
are the idea of security
and a stable, normal place
582
00:26:50,826 --> 00:26:52,956
that turns out
to be a place of danger,
583
00:26:53,002 --> 00:26:56,662
or a person who seems
to be a friendly person.
584
00:26:56,702 --> 00:26:58,362
And, of course,
one of the greatest things
585
00:26:58,399 --> 00:26:59,879
in "Rosemary's Baby"
is the neighbors.
586
00:26:59,922 --> 00:27:01,622
[door bell buzzes]
587
00:27:01,663 --> 00:27:04,063
- The central figure
in this patriarchal crush
588
00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:05,670
is Ruth Gordon.
589
00:27:05,711 --> 00:27:08,101
- Hi there! We're not
bothering you, are we?
590
00:27:08,148 --> 00:27:10,498
I heard you come in.
It certainly wasn't very long.
591
00:27:10,541 --> 00:27:12,591
- Ta-da!
- Who comes in with her
592
00:27:12,631 --> 00:27:14,421
multicolored scarves
and her accent
593
00:27:14,458 --> 00:27:17,588
and delivers
a series of death blows
594
00:27:17,636 --> 00:27:21,066
to everything that
poor Rosemary stands for.
595
00:27:21,117 --> 00:27:23,687
- Here.
- What is in it? Tannis root?
596
00:27:23,729 --> 00:27:27,039
- A little bit of that,
a little bit some other things.
597
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,690
- They're the kind of neighbors
you kind of...all right--
598
00:27:29,735 --> 00:27:31,075
- You sort of want to
avoid them...
599
00:27:31,127 --> 00:27:32,477
- Yeah.
- But you're nice to them.
600
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,040
- They're nosy...
- They're harmless.
601
00:27:34,087 --> 00:27:36,087
- They're harmless,
and that they are, you know,
602
00:27:36,132 --> 00:27:37,662
essentially agents of the...
603
00:27:37,699 --> 00:27:39,309
of the devil.
- The devil.
604
00:27:39,353 --> 00:27:41,013
- We're your friends,
Rosemary.
605
00:27:41,050 --> 00:27:43,050
- There's nothing to be
afraid of, Rosemary.
606
00:27:43,096 --> 00:27:44,746
Honest and truly there isn't.
607
00:27:44,793 --> 00:27:47,013
- Another thing that I think
young women
608
00:27:47,056 --> 00:27:49,186
really can relate to
in "Rosemary's Baby,"
609
00:27:49,232 --> 00:27:51,372
no one believes her.
- One thing is for sure.
610
00:27:51,408 --> 00:27:53,668
They have a coven,
and they want my baby.
611
00:27:53,715 --> 00:27:56,975
- Certainly seems that way.
612
00:27:57,023 --> 00:27:59,033
- To me, there's no scarier
moment in the movie
613
00:27:59,068 --> 00:28:01,678
than when you realize
her doctor is...
614
00:28:01,723 --> 00:28:03,383
has turned on her.
615
00:28:03,420 --> 00:28:04,860
That feeling of the person
616
00:28:04,900 --> 00:28:06,380
that you've put
your ultimate trust in,
617
00:28:06,423 --> 00:28:07,993
like your obstetrician,
this guy who's,
618
00:28:08,034 --> 00:28:09,514
like, tending to your body
and your femininity,
619
00:28:09,557 --> 00:28:12,387
and he is handing you over
to the satanists.
620
00:28:12,429 --> 00:28:14,259
- We're gonna go home
and rest.
621
00:28:14,301 --> 00:28:15,781
- That's all it takes.
622
00:28:15,824 --> 00:28:18,044
- Nothing supernatural
happens, actually,
623
00:28:18,087 --> 00:28:20,257
for the entire course
of the movie.
624
00:28:20,307 --> 00:28:22,177
You know,
she could just be paranoid.
625
00:28:22,222 --> 00:28:26,572
She could be suffering from
some weird pregnancy delusions.
626
00:28:26,617 --> 00:28:29,447
[unsettling music]
627
00:28:29,490 --> 00:28:34,150
♪
628
00:28:34,190 --> 00:28:36,930
- What have you done to it?
629
00:28:36,976 --> 00:28:38,846
What have you done
to its eyes?
630
00:28:38,891 --> 00:28:41,111
- He has his
father's eyes.
631
00:28:41,154 --> 00:28:43,074
- It's not until
she actually says,
632
00:28:43,112 --> 00:28:45,462
"What have you done
to his eyes?"
633
00:28:45,506 --> 00:28:49,546
that there is finally
a physical manifestation
634
00:28:49,597 --> 00:28:50,897
of what
she's been talking about.
635
00:28:50,946 --> 00:28:52,766
- God is dead!
- Hail Satan!
636
00:28:52,818 --> 00:28:54,728
- Satan lives!
637
00:28:54,776 --> 00:28:57,336
- I made the mistake
of showing it to my wife
638
00:28:57,387 --> 00:28:59,907
after I got her impregnated.
639
00:28:59,955 --> 00:29:01,905
- Oh, God!
640
00:29:01,957 --> 00:29:03,387
- She's like,
"I've never seen it."
641
00:29:03,437 --> 00:29:04,787
"What? You've never seen
'Rosemary's Baby'?
642
00:29:04,830 --> 00:29:06,530
We're watching
'Rosemary's Baby.'"
643
00:29:06,570 --> 00:29:07,920
I didn't think about how weird
644
00:29:07,963 --> 00:29:10,103
that might be for someone
who was pregnant,
645
00:29:10,139 --> 00:29:11,879
and it really played
on her fears
646
00:29:11,924 --> 00:29:17,234
that we were gonna have
the antichrist as a child.
647
00:29:17,277 --> 00:29:18,837
Uh, it was a bad call.
648
00:29:18,887 --> 00:29:20,537
- "Rosemary's Baby"
is a movie
649
00:29:20,584 --> 00:29:23,024
about the dark side
of pregnancy.
650
00:29:23,065 --> 00:29:24,755
Richard Donner's film
"The Omen"
651
00:29:24,806 --> 00:29:26,846
takes things one step further
652
00:29:26,895 --> 00:29:28,845
with a violent vision
of parents
653
00:29:28,897 --> 00:29:32,247
at the mercy
of the ultimate problem child:
654
00:29:32,292 --> 00:29:34,602
the spawn of Satan.
655
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,520
- When the Jews return to Zion
656
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,520
"and a comet fills the sky,
657
00:29:42,563 --> 00:29:45,613
"the Holy Roman Empire rises,
658
00:29:45,653 --> 00:29:48,053
and you and I must die."
659
00:29:48,090 --> 00:29:51,400
- Released in 1976,
Richard Donner's film
660
00:29:51,441 --> 00:29:55,271
"The Omen" revolves around
every parent's secret fear:
661
00:29:55,315 --> 00:29:59,535
that their sweet young child
is a demon in disguise.
662
00:30:00,363 --> 00:30:04,113
- "The Omen" is the story
of an American diplomat,
663
00:30:04,150 --> 00:30:06,200
played by Gregory Peck,
664
00:30:06,239 --> 00:30:08,719
who takes a child home
from the hospital
665
00:30:08,763 --> 00:30:12,773
that is not his own
and sets up shop
666
00:30:12,811 --> 00:30:15,341
and seems to have this
beautiful life in England,
667
00:30:15,378 --> 00:30:17,288
and then the whole thing
starts to unravel,
668
00:30:17,337 --> 00:30:18,687
and we discover that the child
669
00:30:18,729 --> 00:30:21,379
is actually
the son of the devil.
670
00:30:21,428 --> 00:30:23,298
- "The Omen" is like my
hands-down
671
00:30:23,343 --> 00:30:26,043
favorite horror movie.
672
00:30:26,085 --> 00:30:29,215
It's intellectually
a little bit above par
673
00:30:29,262 --> 00:30:31,132
than the average thing
you would watch
674
00:30:31,177 --> 00:30:33,087
at the video store, right?
675
00:30:33,135 --> 00:30:35,135
- Right.
It was a big-budget movie.
676
00:30:35,181 --> 00:30:36,571
Richard Donner.
It was a huge deal.
677
00:30:36,617 --> 00:30:38,047
- Yeah, and Gregory Peck
is great in it.
678
00:30:38,097 --> 00:30:39,447
Lee Remick's great in it.
679
00:30:39,489 --> 00:30:41,879
So I just thought it hit
on all--you know,
680
00:30:41,927 --> 00:30:45,407
the quality was really high
on all the different facets.
681
00:30:45,452 --> 00:30:47,322
- Gregory Peck
in a horror movie.
682
00:30:47,367 --> 00:30:48,667
That was kind of a big deal,
683
00:30:48,716 --> 00:30:50,146
having an actor
of his stature.
684
00:30:50,196 --> 00:30:52,106
- It was a '50s-era,
685
00:30:52,154 --> 00:30:55,644
established
older Hollywood legend
686
00:30:55,679 --> 00:30:57,379
that was now appearing
in this horror film,
687
00:30:57,420 --> 00:31:00,420
and he gave it,
along with Lee Remick,
688
00:31:00,467 --> 00:31:03,037
gave it this patina of class.
689
00:31:03,078 --> 00:31:06,728
- Peck was going through
a terrible time in his life.
690
00:31:06,777 --> 00:31:08,517
His son was found dead.
691
00:31:08,562 --> 00:31:10,912
He was so devastated,
692
00:31:10,956 --> 00:31:13,916
and his agent said,
"I got to get him out.
693
00:31:13,959 --> 00:31:15,919
"I got to get him up
on his feet.
694
00:31:15,961 --> 00:31:17,661
I got to get him working."
695
00:31:17,701 --> 00:31:20,971
We pitched him,
"Greg, it's a strong mystery,
696
00:31:21,009 --> 00:31:22,919
the suspense is incredible,
697
00:31:22,968 --> 00:31:25,228
and on top of it,
it's a thriller."
698
00:31:25,274 --> 00:31:27,934
- Damien, the adopted boy
in "The Omen,"
699
00:31:27,973 --> 00:31:31,413
does not seem to be aware
that the devil is inside him,
700
00:31:31,454 --> 00:31:33,114
but as he grows older,
701
00:31:33,152 --> 00:31:36,332
Satan's agents
begin infiltrating his life.
702
00:31:36,372 --> 00:31:39,722
They send a sinister
Rottweiler to protect him,
703
00:31:39,767 --> 00:31:41,937
and, in an infamous scene,
704
00:31:41,987 --> 00:31:45,767
they possess his nanny
at his fifth birthday party.
705
00:31:45,816 --> 00:31:48,596
- Look at me, Damien.
- "Damien, this is for you."
706
00:31:48,645 --> 00:31:50,165
- It's all for you.
- Like...
707
00:31:50,212 --> 00:31:52,952
she kills herself
at the kid's party.
708
00:31:54,216 --> 00:31:55,736
- [screams]
709
00:31:57,567 --> 00:31:59,657
- In "The Omen,"
we don't really know
710
00:31:59,700 --> 00:32:02,270
that Damien is the antichrist.
711
00:32:02,311 --> 00:32:05,361
Neither does Gregory Peck.
It's not until somewhere
712
00:32:05,401 --> 00:32:07,971
towards the beginning
of the second half
713
00:32:08,013 --> 00:32:10,543
that you really come to terms
with the fact
714
00:32:10,580 --> 00:32:13,630
that they're harboring
the antichrist.
715
00:32:13,670 --> 00:32:16,200
[dark, heavy music]
716
00:32:16,238 --> 00:32:19,498
♪
717
00:32:19,546 --> 00:32:21,676
So the movie has
a story to tell,
718
00:32:21,722 --> 00:32:26,292
and then it's gonna be,
"What do they do about it?"
719
00:32:26,335 --> 00:32:30,165
- They cast it well. They cast
the son of the devil well.
720
00:32:30,209 --> 00:32:33,599
- Mom!
- Damien--stop!
721
00:32:33,647 --> 00:32:35,127
- When you can get, like,
a good performance
722
00:32:35,170 --> 00:32:36,690
out of children
in a horror movie,
723
00:32:36,737 --> 00:32:38,257
there's, like,
nothing more effective.
724
00:32:38,304 --> 00:32:42,794
[sinister chanting]
725
00:32:42,830 --> 00:32:45,490
There's just something
inherently creepy about kids.
726
00:32:45,528 --> 00:32:47,178
Even my own children,
727
00:32:47,226 --> 00:32:49,136
if they wake me up
in the middle of the night,
728
00:32:49,184 --> 00:32:50,754
and they're just standing
motionless next to the bed,
729
00:32:50,794 --> 00:32:54,544
I'm briefly scared,
and I made them.
730
00:32:54,581 --> 00:32:57,711
- Casting that child,
we did one scene where I said,
731
00:32:57,758 --> 00:33:01,458
"I'm gonna grab you,
and you want to get away."
732
00:33:01,501 --> 00:33:03,461
Grabbed this kid,
went rolling,
733
00:33:03,503 --> 00:33:05,553
and he kicked me
in my privates...
734
00:33:07,986 --> 00:33:09,376
- Oh!
735
00:33:12,642 --> 00:33:15,732
- So hard that I just
threw my hands up
736
00:33:15,776 --> 00:33:18,466
and said, "Cut! Hire him."
737
00:33:18,518 --> 00:33:21,608
- Aaahh!
738
00:33:23,653 --> 00:33:26,313
- After Damien nearly kills
his mother,
739
00:33:26,352 --> 00:33:29,572
Peck's character searches
for the boy's true parents.
740
00:33:29,616 --> 00:33:31,566
His quest triggers
an avalanche
741
00:33:31,618 --> 00:33:33,918
of violence and death.
742
00:33:33,968 --> 00:33:35,668
- Aaah!
743
00:33:35,709 --> 00:33:37,749
- The spectacular staging
of these scenes
744
00:33:37,798 --> 00:33:39,448
is one of the reasons
745
00:33:39,495 --> 00:33:41,625
"The Omen" is considered
a horror classic.
746
00:33:41,671 --> 00:33:44,331
[dog growling]
747
00:33:44,370 --> 00:33:48,070
- I wasn't prepared for
how scary it was gonna get.
748
00:33:48,113 --> 00:33:50,163
Forget about the gore
and everything.
749
00:33:50,202 --> 00:33:52,382
That--didn't see
that coming at all.
750
00:33:52,421 --> 00:33:53,861
You know, just the--
- The dog, the music.
751
00:33:53,901 --> 00:33:56,901
- The Rottweilers
surrounding them
752
00:33:56,947 --> 00:33:58,337
in the graveyard was, like,
753
00:33:58,384 --> 00:33:59,524
"Oh, my God,
what's gonna happen?"
754
00:33:59,559 --> 00:34:02,819
[dogs snarling, barking]
755
00:34:05,347 --> 00:34:07,347
But then, the decapitations.
756
00:34:07,393 --> 00:34:10,613
I mean, that just--
that was very scary.
757
00:34:17,707 --> 00:34:19,097
I never saw that coming.
758
00:34:20,797 --> 00:34:23,537
- At the end of the movie,
we dropped the camera,
759
00:34:23,583 --> 00:34:25,543
and it revealed
the back of the kid,
760
00:34:25,585 --> 00:34:27,665
which I was right
behind the camera.
761
00:34:27,717 --> 00:34:30,107
Kid turned and looked at me,
762
00:34:30,155 --> 00:34:32,155
and he had this severe
face on,
763
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,290
and I said, "Don't you smile.
Don't you dare smile."
764
00:34:36,335 --> 00:34:39,505
And he started to fight
the smile,
765
00:34:39,555 --> 00:34:42,685
and then he couldn't fight it
anymore, and he kind of lit up.
766
00:34:42,732 --> 00:34:46,262
It was like, blow up,
the end of a movie.
767
00:34:46,301 --> 00:34:49,261
Was this real?
Am I really the devil?
768
00:34:49,304 --> 00:34:54,744
Did this really happen?
And it changed the whole movie.
769
00:34:54,788 --> 00:34:58,358
I never had children.
They scare the hell out of me.
770
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,360
- At their core,
possession movies are about
771
00:35:01,403 --> 00:35:03,323
the fear of losing yourself,
772
00:35:03,362 --> 00:35:06,542
of a demon taking control
of your body and your mind.
773
00:35:06,582 --> 00:35:08,152
- I can't move.
774
00:35:08,193 --> 00:35:11,333
- In 2017,
Jordan Peele's "Get Out"
775
00:35:11,370 --> 00:35:16,590
took that idea and used it to
hold a mirror up to America.
776
00:35:19,465 --> 00:35:21,205
- Good to see another
brother around here.
777
00:35:21,249 --> 00:35:23,429
- A young black man meets
another young black man.
778
00:35:23,469 --> 00:35:28,079
- Ah, yes. Of course it is.
779
00:35:28,126 --> 00:35:30,946
- But something
is very wrong here.
780
00:35:30,998 --> 00:35:35,128
Jordan Peele's "Get Out"
is by turns a social satire
781
00:35:35,176 --> 00:35:39,086
and a genuinely horrific tale
of demonic possession,
782
00:35:39,137 --> 00:35:42,137
but the demons here
aren't from hell.
783
00:35:42,183 --> 00:35:44,713
- Get out.
784
00:35:44,751 --> 00:35:46,411
- Sorry, man.
[woman murmurs]
785
00:35:46,448 --> 00:35:47,538
- Get out!
786
00:35:48,450 --> 00:35:51,190
- I love, love,
love possession films.
787
00:35:51,236 --> 00:35:53,716
- Hello.
- Hi.
788
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,070
- My mother used to do
this thing to me,
789
00:35:57,111 --> 00:36:00,591
play this little joke on me.
Every now and then, I would go,
790
00:36:00,636 --> 00:36:02,156
"Mom, Mom,
can I get this candy?"
791
00:36:02,203 --> 00:36:04,033
or whatever,
and she would look at me,
792
00:36:04,074 --> 00:36:08,954
and she'd go, "Mommy's not here
anymore, Jordan,"
793
00:36:08,992 --> 00:36:11,912
and I'd be like, "Don't do it,"
like, "Come on. Mom."
794
00:36:11,952 --> 00:36:15,872
And she'd be like,
"I'm serious. Mom isn't here."
795
00:36:15,912 --> 00:36:19,872
- Who was she?
- Right. That's the question.
796
00:36:19,916 --> 00:36:21,736
That's the question
I've never answered.
797
00:36:21,788 --> 00:36:25,658
- All I know is sometimes if
there's too many white people,
798
00:36:25,705 --> 00:36:27,265
I get nervous, you know?
799
00:36:27,315 --> 00:36:28,965
- "Get Out"
is a possession film.
800
00:36:29,012 --> 00:36:30,362
- It is a possession film.
801
00:36:30,405 --> 00:36:32,485
- [laughing]
802
00:36:32,538 --> 00:36:34,278
- Instead of the devil
possessing you,
803
00:36:34,322 --> 00:36:36,802
it's literally the white devil
possessing your body.
804
00:36:36,846 --> 00:36:37,796
- I'm into it.
805
00:36:37,847 --> 00:36:42,937
- Oh, no. No. No.
806
00:36:42,983 --> 00:36:45,463
- And there haven't been
a lot of movies
807
00:36:45,507 --> 00:36:49,247
that deal with race
straight on in the genre space.
808
00:36:49,294 --> 00:36:50,904
- Do they know I'm black?
809
00:36:53,385 --> 00:36:54,855
- No.
810
00:36:54,908 --> 00:36:56,648
- And I wanted this movie
to be,
811
00:36:56,692 --> 00:36:58,832
"You can't do this movie
with a white guy."
812
00:36:58,868 --> 00:37:00,778
- My dad would have voted
for Obama a third time
813
00:37:00,827 --> 00:37:05,437
if he could have.
Like, the love is so real.
814
00:37:05,484 --> 00:37:08,754
- In a nutshell, it's a story
of a black guy
815
00:37:08,791 --> 00:37:11,321
who meets
his white girlfriend's parents
816
00:37:11,359 --> 00:37:16,839
and kind of gets more than what
he's expecting, in a nutshell.
817
00:37:16,886 --> 00:37:20,016
- I would have voted for Obama
for a third term if I could.
818
00:37:20,063 --> 00:37:23,593
Best president in my lifetime,
hands down.
819
00:37:23,632 --> 00:37:25,372
- I agree.
- Yeah.
820
00:37:25,417 --> 00:37:28,987
- There is a genuine mystery
going on
821
00:37:29,029 --> 00:37:32,689
in the case of "Get Out."
The audience knows,
822
00:37:32,728 --> 00:37:35,248
okay, there's something
weird about this family.
823
00:37:35,296 --> 00:37:37,076
There is definitely
something weird
824
00:37:37,124 --> 00:37:39,824
about those black servants.
825
00:37:39,866 --> 00:37:42,736
There's something weird
about this whole damn place.
826
00:37:42,782 --> 00:37:46,832
But exactly what,
you don't know.
827
00:37:46,873 --> 00:37:50,013
[chatter, laughter
abruptly stop]
828
00:37:51,181 --> 00:37:52,751
But now you're really
watching,
829
00:37:52,792 --> 00:37:54,452
because now you're
watching a mystery.
830
00:37:54,489 --> 00:37:57,009
Jordan Peele knows
exactly what he's doing,
831
00:37:57,057 --> 00:37:59,837
and we're gonna just
have to wait for it.
832
00:37:59,886 --> 00:38:02,536
- Do you find that
being African-American
833
00:38:02,584 --> 00:38:07,244
has more advantage
or disadvantage?
834
00:38:07,285 --> 00:38:09,415
- Being black in America,
835
00:38:09,461 --> 00:38:12,551
there's certain dials
you're sort of tuned into
836
00:38:12,594 --> 00:38:15,344
to not walk into
a [bleep]-up situation.
837
00:38:15,380 --> 00:38:17,690
- I got hypnotized last night.
- [bleep].
838
00:38:17,730 --> 00:38:19,340
Get the [bleep] out of here.
839
00:38:19,384 --> 00:38:21,394
- No, yo, yo, yeah, yeah,
to quit smoking,
840
00:38:21,429 --> 00:38:23,949
but Rose's mom's
a psychiatrist, so...
841
00:38:23,997 --> 00:38:24,997
- Bro, I don't care
if the bitch
842
00:38:25,041 --> 00:38:27,001
is Iyanla Vanzant, okay?
843
00:38:27,043 --> 00:38:29,573
She can't fix my [bleep] life.
You ain't getting in my head.
844
00:38:29,611 --> 00:38:32,091
- Chris always thinks he's got
the situation in hand...
845
00:38:32,135 --> 00:38:33,825
- Yes.
- Because they're, like,
846
00:38:33,876 --> 00:38:35,436
a bunch of white people.
What are they gonna do?
847
00:38:35,487 --> 00:38:37,177
- We're kind of like,
we can forgive him.
848
00:38:37,227 --> 00:38:38,837
Oh, he's not being dumb.
849
00:38:38,881 --> 00:38:42,281
Is he really going to jump
to the conclusion
850
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,450
that this family is literally
evil, physically threats?
851
00:38:46,498 --> 00:38:47,848
Like, that's crazy.
852
00:38:47,890 --> 00:38:52,420
- Now...sink into the floor.
853
00:38:52,460 --> 00:38:54,160
- Wait, wait, wait--
- Sink.
854
00:38:54,201 --> 00:38:57,251
[ominous chords]
855
00:38:57,291 --> 00:38:59,081
♪
856
00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:01,989
- The minute Chris is sent
into the sunken place,
857
00:39:02,035 --> 00:39:06,335
I realized that this movie
was not just going to be scary
858
00:39:06,387 --> 00:39:08,387
and not just going
to be interesting
859
00:39:08,433 --> 00:39:10,483
but also going to be
important.
860
00:39:10,522 --> 00:39:13,792
♪
861
00:39:13,829 --> 00:39:16,179
Because he created a metaphor
862
00:39:16,223 --> 00:39:20,453
that now gives so many of us
language to explain
863
00:39:20,488 --> 00:39:26,318
what a state of suppression
looks like and feels like.
864
00:39:26,364 --> 00:39:28,804
- Now you're in
the sunken place.
865
00:39:28,844 --> 00:39:30,414
- When you're
in the sunken place,
866
00:39:30,455 --> 00:39:31,885
you can still see
what's happening.
867
00:39:31,934 --> 00:39:33,944
You're not unaware.
868
00:39:33,980 --> 00:39:39,810
It's just that you feel there's
nothing you can do about it.
869
00:39:39,855 --> 00:39:42,415
Someone or something
has taken control over you,
870
00:39:42,467 --> 00:39:45,247
so therefore you're powerless,
and it doesn't matter
871
00:39:45,295 --> 00:39:48,255
what color,
where you come from,
872
00:39:48,298 --> 00:39:51,908
you can be in the sunken place
just by not having a voice.
873
00:39:51,954 --> 00:39:55,184
- In a pivotal scene
in "Get Out,"
874
00:39:55,218 --> 00:39:57,308
we discover
all the black people
875
00:39:57,351 --> 00:40:00,661
Chris has met on the estate
have been sold at auction.
876
00:40:00,702 --> 00:40:03,182
Their bodies have been
taken over by white people
877
00:40:03,226 --> 00:40:06,096
who desire their youth
and physicality.
878
00:40:06,142 --> 00:40:11,322
They are trapped in the sunken
place, yearning for freedom.
879
00:40:11,365 --> 00:40:12,885
- It's really a Trojan horse
880
00:40:12,932 --> 00:40:17,632
for telling
a much more important story.
881
00:40:17,676 --> 00:40:21,806
- Where the country is
certainly helped propel
882
00:40:21,854 --> 00:40:24,554
the success of "Get Out,"
and also made "Get Out"
883
00:40:24,596 --> 00:40:28,296
a particularly important movie
for its time
884
00:40:28,338 --> 00:40:31,858
in a way that, you know,
it wouldn't have been,
885
00:40:31,907 --> 00:40:34,427
and, you know, I wish that
that weren't true, but it is.
886
00:40:34,475 --> 00:40:36,085
- I mean, at the end
of the day,
887
00:40:36,129 --> 00:40:39,739
the movie is about
how racism is horrifying.
888
00:40:39,785 --> 00:40:43,655
It's the most horrific thing
in our world today,
889
00:40:43,702 --> 00:40:46,622
is just people just hating
890
00:40:46,661 --> 00:40:49,101
other people
for whatever reasons they do.
891
00:40:49,142 --> 00:40:52,752
- What is your purpose,
Chris?
892
00:40:52,798 --> 00:40:53,968
- What?
893
00:40:56,497 --> 00:40:58,497
- In life.
- Is there a better statement
894
00:40:58,543 --> 00:41:02,243
on race relations in America?
I don't think so, you know?
895
00:41:02,285 --> 00:41:05,415
And that's totally pushed
the bar on satire and horror
896
00:41:05,463 --> 00:41:07,163
and cut very deep,
897
00:41:07,203 --> 00:41:10,083
at the same way
is being entertaining.
898
00:41:10,119 --> 00:41:12,509
- And that's what genre movies
do at their best,
899
00:41:12,557 --> 00:41:14,167
especially great horror movies.
900
00:41:14,210 --> 00:41:18,520
It gives you a way
to discuss the undiscussable.
901
00:41:18,563 --> 00:41:20,433
- Yes.
- It gives you a context
902
00:41:20,478 --> 00:41:22,178
to talk about subjects
903
00:41:22,218 --> 00:41:24,178
that are just awful
and painful for everyone...
904
00:41:24,220 --> 00:41:25,830
- Yeah.
- But you can put it
905
00:41:25,874 --> 00:41:27,964
in the context
of a scary movie,
906
00:41:28,007 --> 00:41:30,967
whether it's a zombie movie,
whether it's a "Get Out" movie,
907
00:41:31,010 --> 00:41:33,670
and it's like you're suddenly
allowed to talk about it.
908
00:41:33,708 --> 00:41:35,838
- And everybody needs it.
909
00:41:35,884 --> 00:41:40,544
♪
910
00:41:40,585 --> 00:41:42,755
Even if it's not in the package
of a horror movie,
911
00:41:42,804 --> 00:41:45,464
everybody has this dark side
that needs to be filled.
912
00:41:45,503 --> 00:41:49,293
[intense music]
913
00:41:50,725 --> 00:41:53,545
- I mean, I told you not to
go in that house.
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