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Stop, stop .
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- Up , Marina .
- Do not look at me .
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This is so beautiful !
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Personnel in their positions .
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Look firm , Kurt .
Marcus , move close to Marina .
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Fine, be like that .
Perfect .
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Raise your head ,
look at me .
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The WOMEN'S EVOLUTION
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You know what's interesting ?
After 40 years ...
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they think you 're crazy
and should be in a mental hospital ...
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you finally receive
both recognition.
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It takes so long
to take us seriously .
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Like this . That's right .
Do not touch anything. Anyway .
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It was a long way .
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Welcome to the Art section
of the program . It's amazing .
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We're talking about the exhibition
Museum of Modern Art .
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She will make up
eyebrows .
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It is you who have to decide .
Monica Morales went to see her .
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There are three parts naked .
Here's the first .
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It's called \" Imponderabilia \"
the artist Marina Abramovic .
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- The name of the artist is Marina .
- Marina .
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- And the last name ?
- I do not know .
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Abramovic .
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- It is eastern European .
- You had already told me .
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Marina Abramovic .
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MUSEUM OF MODERN ART
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THE ARTIST IS PRESENT
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We can open shortly.
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Ladies and gentlemen ,
do not run . Thank you .
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I could not pass you .
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Mom dressed me as Satan
when I was four ...
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to my first party.
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Everyone seemed happy
how princesses and cowboys.
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And I felt so miserable .
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A child with a black dress
sad Satan and two horns .
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I do not know why
so she dressed me .
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I think it marked my life .
We're recreating that image.
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Look at me .
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Sixty years later .
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After the screening , I have to give
more attention to my sex life .
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I have to take care of it .
If I put a photo like this ...
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do you think it will attract
some men ?
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Semi - intellectual artist, on top
Career singles looking .
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You are seeing several
Marinas basically.
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You see a Marina ...
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What is Product
partisan parents ...
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two national heroes ,
without limits , determined ...
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grasping what is
in front of her .
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And near this
Marina there is another ...
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a child ...
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whose mother never gave love
enough , very vulnerable ...
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and unbelievably
disappointed and sad.
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And there is another that has
a certain spiritual wisdom ...
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and can be
above it all .
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And this is my favorite .
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SIX MONTHS AGO
DISPLAY AT MoMA
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This side of the line .
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We have to do there ...
it's there .
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We can ...
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We have to start now .
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- I think so ...
- This is the coolest .
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And then as well .
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Here we already have 10 pieces .
What is enough.
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Yes , if they are well .
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I love his name , August .
Do you have a brother in September ?
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Who will write the texts ?
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- Will Klaus and his team .
- Will Klaus ?
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- Very well, then ...
- I just will put them on the wall .
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Good to know .
Taste of Times font .
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- Pleasure to meet you .
- The type of letter.
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And like the Russian font .
But we can choose together.
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- Okay .
- Great . Thank you.
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It is very red.
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Yesterday we talked about letting them
in black and white .
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There will be color actually .
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At least once ,
I wanted to show everything.
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What is making art
be an artist .
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The both of correspondence,
e-mails , faxes , letters ...
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both the ticket
air and all the rest .
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The structure is huge .
Show physical labor ...
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that has nothing to do
with creativity ...
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just administration.
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Office
Marina Abramovic .
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I will have six
floors of MoMA .
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- What is a big deal .
- It's unbelievable .
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I already feel back pain
just thinking about it .
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Be chronological . This is the beginning .
My early work .
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This work is called
The Artist is Present ...
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based on performances
where the artist is present .
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It does not include my objects
transient sound pieces ...
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objects with crystals .
Only performance . Pure performance .
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Everything is performance .
If we have images ...
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do not show anything but
the images. It is very radical.
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Therefore , this view at MoMA
is historical and important to me .
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It put things
in the right places ...
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performance because it never was
a common art form .
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It is an alternative
since I was born .
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Want it to be a form
Art and respect .
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Before I die .
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You too . Kiss.
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Let's start
with the display .
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You will reinterpret
his performances ?
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- No, I will make a new piece .
- One or several ?
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Only one new piece .
The Artist is Present .
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The other people are ...
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reinterpreting
my five historic pieces .
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I think his first performance was
a museum in Belgrade .
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This is ...
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What kind of places ...
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Marina , the sound is an inherent element
in Relation in Movement ...
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where you drive a van
a square for 16 hours ...
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while yelling numbers
a megaphone.
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You replaced your persona
by a prostitute .
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In Rhythm 2 ,
you took psychoactive drugs ...
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to challenge
social behavior ...
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about women
with mental illness .
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Rhythm And five , you lay ...
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inside a star
wood burning ...
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and fainted for lack
of oxygen .
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You have put your body
in danger in these works ...
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and you must be tired
of these questions ...
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but I want to talk about it
before proceeding .
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There is only one question
I have not heard for 10 years ...
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\" Why is this art? \"
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Always ask me
when it started ...
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and I could not tolerate .
Now I miss the question.
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Nobody asks me that anymore .
Maybe because of my age .
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Finally understood
understood or pretend to have .
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If you are an alternative artist
at 18, 19 , 20 years ...
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and remains alternative
at 29 and 30 years ...
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and remains alternative
also at 40 and 50 years ...
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but I have 63 years .
Do not wanna be an alternative .
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Many people think it
as the grandmother of performance art .
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The art has to be beautiful .
The artist must be beautiful .
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Performance art
emerged in the 60s ...
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as a challenge to paint .
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It was not something
hung on the wall.
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It is an art form
where the object is the body .
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In the case of Marina ,
she uses the human body ...
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to express opinions
that can be violent ...
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or provocative .
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It challenges the audience
directly and boldly .
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The essence of her work ...
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is sharing
the experience ...
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between the audience and the artist .
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Many of the works
Marina are interventions .
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Like when she did Rhythm 0
Naples , with objects ...
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and people could
use them against her.
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That's how
Stanford Experiment , right?
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It's a science experiment
that reveals human nature .
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But what is art , but the revelation
human nature ?
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It seems a mystery crime .
Like Hitchcock .
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She will be murdered ?
Here 's the gun .
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What will happen ?
Who comes and who goes ?
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The veneer of civilization
is very thin .
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And it's amazing
how quickly ...
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a group of people
becomes animalistic ...
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if you give him
such permission .
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Some of the performances
initials of Marina ...
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were about it .
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By playing
with the knife ...
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Marina creates the intensity
of her performances ...
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which makes
transcendental .
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Marina chose
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to reinterpret
five of their historical pieces in MoMA .
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She invited for a workshop
at her home in Hudson Valley .
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The workshop
is called \"Clearing House \" ...
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to prepare
for display at MoMA .
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Let's cut together .
And fast.
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We have to cut all this
and put into soup before 14h .
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My generation of artists
no longer acts .
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I am one of the two
or three others.
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And I thought :
\" It is my duty to make history ? \"
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So when I was invited
to make a display at MoMA ...
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thought important
for me and my ego ...
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give five historical pieces ...
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for young artists
reinterpret .
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They are coming
and I 'm making soup .
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She said that we will not
eat or talk for three days .
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That we hate it 's time ...
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but then we love her
and do what she wants .
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Why do you look
worried?
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She wants us to stay
fasting for three days ...
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and said we will do
exercises .
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I believe in my instinct
and think it is right to trust her .
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Make your last
telephone calls .
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You will be free
three days. That's incredible.
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What will happen ?
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- We 'll tell you later .
- It does not matter .
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This will be different.
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They can use that experience
and then do whatever they want .
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But it is likely that they hate me .
At least at the beginning .
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It is a simple structure ,
and the idea is to control your body ...
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and control your mind ...
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in zero gravity
if possible .
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The first ritual is to wake up
and do simple exercises ...
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eg , skip
and release some energy .
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I will show you . It's simple .
After going to the river .
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If anyone has trouble
Nude ...
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bring a swimsuit,
bikini, swimsuit , you want ...
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or go naked , do not care .
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We do this because they
have to work three months ...
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what a great
type of obligation .
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They have to create your own
charismatic space ...
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and for that, we have
to consider some training .
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The purpose
is empty ourselves .
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Being able to be
at the present time .
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Put our minds
the here and now .
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Then something appears emotional .
It's what we want this work .
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Performance is in need
an emotional outlet.
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It is a kind of direct dialogue
between the audience and the artist .
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And if you are this 100 %
during the performance ...
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emotional moment
come for everyone.
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There is no escape .
Everyone feels it .
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Artists have
to be warriors ...
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must be specified
and have energy to conquer ...
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not only new territory ,
but themselves ...
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and weaknesses.
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No matter what job
that makes as an artist ...
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the most important is the state
mental that you realize .
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Performance is a
matter of mental state .
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So ...
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wait and see.
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Marina Abramovic :
The Artist is Present ...
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mean of 9
March to May 31 ...
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whenever you
enter the museum ...
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can be at nine thirty
morning or afternoon at five ...
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she will be present .
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Just as I thought The Artist
Gift is a salon?
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Like a movie set .
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There is a square
huge light.
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Only the square , as in the movie
Lost in Translation .
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In the middle of the square ,
there is a table and two chairs .
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It's simple , it's like not
there was nothing .
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Only the artist sitting .
I want to be there like a stone .
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Only three months .
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And look in his eyes .
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Will be three months .
Everyday.
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If you work three months
performance becomes reality.
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No one understands that more difficult
is doing something that is almost nothing .
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This requires 100 % of you
no more story to tell ...
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there are no objects behind which
hide. There is nothing .
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It is their sheer presence , you just
have your energy and nothing else .
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Seven and a half hours ,
six days a week.
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Without moving.
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I have nothing to say.
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No comments .
Just respect.
248
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I find unbearable
sit without moving.
249
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She tries .
250
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Do not know if will work .
251
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Can I show you ?
252
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When she had this idea
thought : \" She's going to kill. \"
253
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I said : \" Marina , do not know
if you want the responsibility ...
254
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give you permission
to do this .
255
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Think about it a couple of days . \"
256
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She called me the next day
and said, \" I can do that . \"
257
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Once Klaus Biesenbach
created the name of the show ...
258
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The Artist is Present ,
was as a destination .
259
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Liked at the time . The Artist
is Present , can not escape .
260
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Look. This is not fantastic ?
261
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- It is aesthetic .
- No one will see it .
262
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There will be
the flood museum.
263
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Maybe I will not use it .
264
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I am telling you
never use . You promised .
265
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Well , this is a
security issue ...
266
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Men do not understand .
I think that is good.
267
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He did not want to deal
with reality .
268
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It fits well. I think it was
a brilliant solution .
269
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I do not know why I have to do
increasingly difficult.
270
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I could have done
a retrospective .
271
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Thirty- six people
reinterpreting my pieces .
272
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A dinner to celebrate
go home and the job was done .
273
00:22:12,533 --> 00:22:17,333
Why must I do this ?
It seems the cross I bear.
274
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It's crazy . God
help me take it to the end .
275
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When you watch one
performance of Marina Abramovic ...
276
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you are engaged
in the physical presence of her ...
277
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that is impressive.
278
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The evidence of the tremendous force
and physical energy it ...
279
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that the presence
of the public gives you ...
280
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is clearly innate .
281
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She can sit still,
or do very little ...
282
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or what she is doing
in performance for long.
283
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Most people
fail .
284
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My parents are heroes
national the time of Tito ...
285
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,733
during the Second
War in the former Yugoslavia .
286
00:23:13,500 --> 00:23:18,200
Had much control
in my house , which I hated .
287
00:23:18,266 --> 00:23:21,400
Everything was disciplined,
with time .
288
00:23:21,566 --> 00:23:23,933
I was trained
to be a soldier .
289
00:23:23,966 --> 00:23:26,233
Mom woke me up
in the night ...
290
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I was asleep
in a rumpled bed .
291
00:23:29,233 --> 00:23:32,400
That was kind of crazy.
There was no love .
292
00:23:32,833 --> 00:23:36,666
I do not remember Mom
kissing me or hugging .
293
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Later, when she asked :
\" Why would you ever kiss me? \"
294
00:23:40,733 --> 00:23:42,633
She was surprised and said ...
295
00:23:42,666 --> 00:23:45,033
\" Of course not ,
I do not want to spoil it . \"
296
00:23:45,133 --> 00:23:49,233
She not spoiled me ,
but I had a loving grandmother ...
297
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present, religious ,
passed all the time in church .
298
00:23:54,100 --> 00:23:56,500
I spent much time with her ...
299
00:23:56,633 --> 00:24:00,100
because my parents were political ,
had no time for me .
300
00:24:00,300 --> 00:24:02,233
There is a strange mixture ...
301
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,733
between religiosity
and that Communist discipline.
302
00:24:05,866 --> 00:24:09,700
Today I see it
was important to me ...
303
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it made me
who I am.
304
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THREE MONTHS BEFORE
DISPLAY AT MoMA
305
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FLORENCE , ITALY
306
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- Nice to meet you .
- Welcome to Florence .
307
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Thank you.
308
00:24:25,266 --> 00:24:28,166
I had to go to the bathroom
at the airport ...
309
00:24:28,933 --> 00:24:31,100
and made a discovery
fantastic .
310
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Two pages with illustrations .
\" How to wash your hands ...
311
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with soap and water . \"
312
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Brilliant.
313
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We are here today ...
314
00:24:50,566 --> 00:24:54,033
for the delivery of important
Lorenzo Magnifico Award ...
315
00:24:54,500 --> 00:24:56,233
Marina Abramovic .
316
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Thank you.
317
00:24:58,566 --> 00:25:00,466
I need the microphone ?
318
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,166
I thought I'd
lecture in the end ...
319
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,666
but do not think this
is the occasion to lecture.
320
00:25:10,900 --> 00:25:14,266
I'd rather have a dialogue
with the public .
321
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,466
Before that , I read
My manifesto for you .
322
00:25:21,366 --> 00:25:26,333
I wrote my manifesto
heart .
323
00:25:26,633 --> 00:25:30,100
He is also funny,
at the same time.
324
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,200
But it's true .
325
00:25:32,633 --> 00:25:37,233
\" An artist should not lie
to himself or others.
326
00:25:42,500 --> 00:25:46,200
An artist should not steal
ideas from another artist.
327
00:25:46,300 --> 00:25:49,566
An artist should not
to commit himself ...
328
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,200
or the art market .
329
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,000
An artist should not
kill another human being .
330
00:26:02,300 --> 00:26:05,600
An artist should not
do idol .
331
00:26:05,900 --> 00:26:08,766
An artist is related .
To your love life \"
332
00:26:13,900 --> 00:26:15,333
No, love life .
333
00:26:16,533 --> 00:26:17,500
Loving .
334
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,066
\" An artist should avoid
fall in love with another artist .
335
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,766
An artist should avoid
fall in love with another artist .
336
00:26:34,100 --> 00:26:38,400
An artist should avoid .
Fall in love with another artist \"
337
00:26:47,500 --> 00:26:51,633
We met
when she came to Amsterdam .
338
00:26:52,933 --> 00:26:54,900
She was going to perform.
339
00:26:56,466 --> 00:26:58,400
I met her before and thought ...
340
00:27:00,133 --> 00:27:02,300
The exhibition was called
Thomas Lips .
341
00:27:02,466 --> 00:27:04,400
During the performance ...
342
00:27:04,533 --> 00:27:07,500
she made a pentagram
belly with a razor ...
343
00:27:07,700 --> 00:27:09,300
and whipped .
344
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,066
I thought, \" Maybe not . \"
345
00:27:14,500 --> 00:27:17,633
Then I started
to notice the wounds .
346
00:27:18,533 --> 00:27:22,533
Do not licked , but took care
and cleaned the wounds ...
347
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:27,600
put something in them , and I think
that was the crux .
348
00:27:30,500 --> 00:27:33,766
When we met
there was an immediate fascination.
349
00:27:34,266 --> 00:27:36,900
By type , character
personality ...
350
00:27:37,033 --> 00:27:40,300
the work we did
individually.
351
00:27:42,033 --> 00:27:45,733
It was as if we had found
lost a brother or sister.
352
00:27:45,766 --> 00:27:46,866
It was something.
353
00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:51,033
And born on the same day ,
354
00:27:51,366 --> 00:27:52,333
Obviously .
355
00:27:53,100 --> 00:27:54,733
Fate brought us together .
356
00:27:57,500 --> 00:28:01,133
I loved him very much .
More than myself .
357
00:28:01,933 --> 00:28:05,866
For me , when we started
working together, it was forever.
358
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,600
I thought that relationship
and work and never would end .
359
00:28:10,233 --> 00:28:14,500
Were two conjoined twins
the body and soul .
360
00:28:16,633 --> 00:28:20,733
Were lovers , we were
friends were artists ...
361
00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:23,300
all at the same time.
362
00:28:23,733 --> 00:28:26,166
And our love was
always above that.
363
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,500
The relationship of Marina and Ulay
is a great love story .
364
00:28:33,700 --> 00:28:35,233
Marina has no limits ...
365
00:28:35,366 --> 00:28:40,366
and met someone who
was prepared for all the art .
366
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,500
That must have impressed her
because she met her partner.
367
00:28:48,666 --> 00:28:51,633
When Marina and Ulay started
the workgroup ...
368
00:28:51,733 --> 00:28:53,600
known
as Relation Works ...
369
00:28:54,366 --> 00:28:57,100
nothing like it had been
made until then.
370
00:28:58,633 --> 00:29:02,966
Our bodies were
of confrontational way ...
371
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,766
because we wanted to show
the man / woman conflict ...
372
00:29:07,100 --> 00:29:09,933
traumatic experiences
about relationships .
373
00:29:09,966 --> 00:29:13,366
We filled
purple marks at the time.
374
00:29:14,133 --> 00:29:15,233
But it did not hurt .
375
00:29:35,533 --> 00:29:38,800
Our 12 years have been so
intense , heavy and powerful ...
376
00:29:38,933 --> 00:29:41,866
as a lifetime
other people 's .
377
00:29:45,500 --> 00:29:50,066
We passed through several stages .
Falling in Love, stay together 12 years .
378
00:29:50,166 --> 00:29:52,833
For the first time
in 23 years ...
379
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,300
we get
under the same roof .
380
00:29:59,766 --> 00:30:03,700
Ulay arrive at 14h .
This is the first time ...
381
00:30:03,833 --> 00:30:07,733
Ulay who comes to this
apartment in New York .
382
00:30:07,833 --> 00:30:09,700
He never came here
or the other.
383
00:30:09,866 --> 00:30:14,600
They are separated for years .
Come join us to talk about it .
384
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,933
I do not know what will happen ,
but it will be interesting.
385
00:30:20,066 --> 00:30:21,066
For sure .
386
00:30:27,300 --> 00:30:29,166
- How will
- I'm fine.
387
00:30:31,233 --> 00:30:33,100
I just get the analyst.
388
00:30:33,966 --> 00:30:36,600
Dr. Glimour .
A special lady .
389
00:30:37,133 --> 00:30:39,200
Very strict .
Taste of rigor .
390
00:30:39,333 --> 00:30:41,266
By bit
she does not wear uniform.
391
00:30:41,933 --> 00:30:45,466
She told me I'm not
so badly emotionally ...
392
00:30:45,566 --> 00:30:49,266
and that I should explore
more my childhood ...
393
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,866
and not repeat the same patterns
next relationship.
394
00:30:53,533 --> 00:30:58,233
I told him about Ulay and she thinks
that the meeting can be easy ...
395
00:30:58,366 --> 00:31:02,900
or not . We do not know .
Let me take a glass - d ?? water.
396
00:31:05,666 --> 00:31:08,966
Both are in the third
act of our lives .
397
00:31:10,833 --> 00:31:13,566
There is no other moment
to approach ...
398
00:31:13,666 --> 00:31:15,000
and forgive us.
399
00:31:15,466 --> 00:31:19,233
And peacefully understand
that was terrible ...
400
00:31:19,366 --> 00:31:23,600
painful and hateful
when we were together ...
401
00:31:23,766 --> 00:31:27,466
but was creative while
and we must forgive ourselves .
402
00:31:30,266 --> 00:31:32,033
You're in the wrong building ?
403
00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:34,766
- The Performing Garage is here.
- This is my building .
404
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:35,866
Hello , dear .
405
00:31:35,900 --> 00:31:40,500
How should I call it ? Grandma
diva or performance art ?
406
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:41,566
Come in.
407
00:31:42,033 --> 00:31:45,500
I think I still love her .
I can live with that .
408
00:31:45,666 --> 00:31:47,900
I'm happy.
It's better than hate her .
409
00:31:48,066 --> 00:31:51,233
Here is my loft .
You know Davide ?
410
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,366
- That nothing .
- My assistant .
411
00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:55,466
- Hello , Davide .
- Did you ever know .
412
00:31:55,500 --> 00:31:57,333
I saw him in the office , right?
413
00:31:58,300 --> 00:32:00,566
- It is you who sends the emails .
- Am .
414
00:32:01,166 --> 00:32:04,566
Davide is a young artist .
And the good . He is Turin .
415
00:32:04,666 --> 00:32:07,066
- David- �
- Not David . It is Davide .
416
00:32:07,933 --> 00:32:10,900
- How are you going ?
- I'm fine . Look at me .
417
00:32:11,233 --> 00:32:12,200
Certainly .
418
00:32:12,333 --> 00:32:14,500
If I can help ,
will be a pleasure .
419
00:32:15,633 --> 00:32:18,333
If I can do something
for her , will be a pleasure .
420
00:32:18,466 --> 00:32:21,933
Depends on what ,
but for now , yes, of course .
421
00:32:22,933 --> 00:32:25,900
I can only do two things .
Helping or be good .
422
00:32:26,100 --> 00:32:29,400
It's an amazing apartment .
You are always here , Davide ?
423
00:32:29,733 --> 00:32:31,033
Yes , almost always .
424
00:32:31,500 --> 00:32:34,833
I try to do the same .
Here is great .
425
00:32:35,033 --> 00:32:37,000
Maybe she still
love me. I do not know .
426
00:32:38,066 --> 00:32:41,033
Tomorrow we'll find out .
Tomorrow or later.
427
00:32:41,566 --> 00:32:44,733
And maybe I \" put a
finger in her tooth.\"
428
00:32:46,633 --> 00:32:50,333
- Put a finger in her tooth ?
- This means doing something sensible .
429
00:32:52,933 --> 00:32:54,366
REACHING THE LIMIT
430
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,933
Marina , you're nervous
with the exhibition at MoMA ?
431
00:33:05,266 --> 00:33:07,666
Very . I'm nervous up
to make speech.
432
00:33:07,900 --> 00:33:10,400
- Fico days in the bathroom .
- Okay .
433
00:33:10,533 --> 00:33:13,033
If I'm not nervous ,
I get so nervous .
434
00:33:16,300 --> 00:33:19,266
You will move
a bit in the chair ...
435
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:24,500
going to and fro
or will be in the same position ?
436
00:33:25,166 --> 00:33:27,133
In the same position .
I'm not moving .
437
00:33:27,233 --> 00:33:28,966
Where will you look ?
438
00:33:29,100 --> 00:33:31,266
For those who sit
in front of me .
439
00:33:31,500 --> 00:33:33,400
There will be a chair
in front of you ?
440
00:33:33,500 --> 00:33:35,966
Yes , one can
as you want to sit .
441
00:33:36,100 --> 00:33:37,066
In front .
442
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,766
There will be 11-15 thousand people
MoMA . Will only stare.
443
00:33:47,833 --> 00:33:52,466
Marina seduces everyone you know .
Is not the case with me ...
444
00:33:52,566 --> 00:33:56,500
because I've been through this process
and now we are divorced .
445
00:33:56,900 --> 00:33:59,100
We are great friends ,
but divorced .
446
00:33:59,233 --> 00:34:02,033
He would never try to seduce me
because we are divorced .
447
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,600
With Marina , always try
to separate the artist from the person ...
448
00:34:12,733 --> 00:34:15,100
with whom I relate
professionally.
449
00:34:15,233 --> 00:34:18,266
I try to deal with it
as if it were a sculpture .
450
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,566
I see her work
as an object .
451
00:34:21,666 --> 00:34:24,066
I try to be objective with it ...
452
00:34:24,500 --> 00:34:29,766
because they do not want
the artist interfere .
453
00:34:32,033 --> 00:34:35,066
Because Marina
never stops acting .
454
00:34:42,900 --> 00:34:44,866
Marina , you do not
need this ?
455
00:34:46,066 --> 00:34:47,033
Are you sure ?
456
00:34:49,833 --> 00:34:51,533
He makes the wine disappear .
457
00:34:51,733 --> 00:34:54,366
I can teach her how to do
this is fun.
458
00:35:05,233 --> 00:35:07,300
I just met someone ...
459
00:35:07,500 --> 00:35:09,933
they thought I should
really know ...
460
00:35:10,066 --> 00:35:14,966
and it happened at MoMA .
So we came here , we drink ...
461
00:35:15,066 --> 00:35:18,000
and he is a guy
interesting.
462
00:35:18,233 --> 00:35:20,200
He is a magician .
David Blaine .
463
00:35:25,833 --> 00:35:31,200
He thinks he can do something
during my exhibition at MoMA .
464
00:35:31,933 --> 00:35:36,200
Knows the axes behind glass
in case of emergency?
465
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,133
I thought about using one
substance that she has ...
466
00:35:40,366 --> 00:35:45,033
and choke her with it . People
would find it very strange .
467
00:35:45,500 --> 00:35:50,066
Then , break the glass , take
the ax and start cutting it .
468
00:35:50,333 --> 00:35:51,900
Then the ambulance arrives ...
469
00:35:51,933 --> 00:35:53,866
they put a
covered about me ...
470
00:35:53,900 --> 00:35:57,566
there's blood everywhere .
And the police arrive and arrest him .
471
00:35:57,700 --> 00:36:01,600
She is lying there
and that's the end of the exhibition .
472
00:36:02,033 --> 00:36:04,866
And people do not know
it was an accident .
473
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,033
Questioning
if it is real or not .
474
00:36:08,166 --> 00:36:12,066
- And I will strike violently .
- Have you done this ?
475
00:36:16,166 --> 00:36:18,566
If I do this two times
, is an illusion .
476
00:36:18,666 --> 00:36:21,600
But when you do it
since it is madness .
477
00:36:21,833 --> 00:36:25,333
Fantastic Marina
is that it will be at MoMA .
478
00:36:26,966 --> 00:36:29,800
That is the public
perfect for this.
479
00:36:30,133 --> 00:36:31,100
Certainly .
480
00:36:33,066 --> 00:36:36,800
- What do you think ?
- I think it's a bad idea .
481
00:36:37,366 --> 00:36:38,333
Why ?
482
00:36:38,700 --> 00:36:42,733
It is an interesting subject
and does amazing things ...
483
00:36:42,900 --> 00:36:45,733
but culturally
some people ...
484
00:36:45,966 --> 00:36:48,033
call people
so magical ...
485
00:36:48,100 --> 00:36:51,266
it should rather be
called illusionist ...
486
00:36:51,500 --> 00:36:53,366
and that says it all .
487
00:36:54,033 --> 00:36:56,866
His work has nothing
to do with illusionism .
488
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,633
He is real. And make the connection
between these works at the MoMA ...
489
00:37:01,833 --> 00:37:05,566
the more important exhibition
you have done in your career ...
490
00:37:05,700 --> 00:37:09,400
would be a disaster . I think
that is the wrong thing to do .
491
00:37:09,666 --> 00:37:13,266
I oppose with all
my being . How about this ?
492
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,466
Done ! You are right .
I accept .
493
00:37:16,633 --> 00:37:18,166
- Done .
- Thank you.
494
00:37:18,333 --> 00:37:22,233
We work with nine galleries .
Marina And now is a giant .
495
00:37:22,766 --> 00:37:24,533
But Sean has supported us ...
496
00:37:24,633 --> 00:37:28,666
when nobody wanted to
deal with problems ...
497
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:34,033
to have a performance artist
in the context of a gallery .
498
00:37:34,366 --> 00:37:35,500
Answer me .
499
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,166
Among blue ...
500
00:37:39,166 --> 00:37:41,566
and red,
which do you prefer?
501
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,566
- What is your first instinct ?
- Red .
502
00:37:46,866 --> 00:37:50,566
Klaus chose blue ,
but all want the red.
503
00:37:51,033 --> 00:37:53,866
Performances by nature
are ephemeral .
504
00:37:53,933 --> 00:37:56,566
Then carefully
select a photo ...
505
00:37:56,666 --> 00:37:58,966
to represent
each performance ...
506
00:37:59,066 --> 00:38:02,533
and transform
in books and sell them.
507
00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:04,300
This is fantastic .
508
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,700
We had minor issues .
509
00:38:07,566 --> 00:38:09,866
That was 20 years ago ...
510
00:38:10,066 --> 00:38:14,466
and sell for two
to five thousand dollars each .
511
00:38:15,333 --> 00:38:19,600
And now they are highly sought
and if you can find them ...
512
00:38:19,700 --> 00:38:22,333
they are worth between 25
and $ 50,000 each .
513
00:38:22,366 --> 00:38:23,966
There is a drama in these photos .
514
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:29,000
The model we created for Marina
and how it created the market ...
515
00:38:29,133 --> 00:38:33,600
has become a standard
observed by others.
516
00:38:34,466 --> 00:38:35,533
So that's it .
517
00:38:41,533 --> 00:38:42,633
ART IS EASY
518
00:38:48,500 --> 00:38:52,000
In the 70s , with Ulay ,
took the radical decision ...
519
00:38:52,100 --> 00:38:53,466
living in a car.
520
00:38:54,100 --> 00:38:56,600
Not needed to pay
phone bills ...
521
00:38:56,733 --> 00:39:00,000
light rental .
And we had no money .
522
00:39:00,100 --> 00:39:03,000
We did not want to do
anything besides acting .
523
00:39:03,133 --> 00:39:07,800
Igor , this is the van where I lived .
I lived in it so long ...
524
00:39:08,033 --> 00:39:11,700
and two days ago you said
she is beautiful .
525
00:39:11,733 --> 00:39:15,466
And I said, \" Linda in a museum ,
but it was a hard life ...
526
00:39:15,566 --> 00:39:18,733
I had nothing .
lovely \" Let's go .
527
00:39:20,366 --> 00:39:23,100
It had been over 30 years
I did not see that car .
528
00:39:23,133 --> 00:39:27,566
And when I saw him at the museum ,
I had an unexpected feeling .
529
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,166
It was like a past life
come to meet me .
530
00:39:34,233 --> 00:39:38,700
We live in the countryside with shepherds ,
we took milk of goats .
531
00:39:38,833 --> 00:39:41,766
We were going with empty bottle
mineral water ...
532
00:39:41,900 --> 00:39:43,833
borrow petrol
the posts .
533
00:39:45,033 --> 00:39:48,533
I knew all the showers
and gas stations in Europe .
534
00:39:48,633 --> 00:39:51,033
This van drives me
thrilled .
535
00:39:53,233 --> 00:39:56,933
Gee , I heart
party to look the van .
536
00:39:57,066 --> 00:40:01,166
I remember how there was so much belief
hope and innocence ...
537
00:40:01,900 --> 00:40:04,533
in our life at that time .
538
00:40:05,066 --> 00:40:09,333
It was a very happy time
in my life right car.
539
00:40:09,766 --> 00:40:12,833
I had everything I ever wanted .
The man I loved ...
540
00:40:13,033 --> 00:40:15,500
working together ,
being radicals ...
541
00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:18,933
and without words
no commitment .
542
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,966
There were two of us
the dog and the universe .
543
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:29,200
I see that way
amazing from there to here .
544
00:40:30,766 --> 00:40:32,166
It's a long way .
545
00:40:35,833 --> 00:40:39,900
I have to prepare the display .
No time .
546
00:40:42,933 --> 00:40:45,333
Marina knitting
sweaters for us .
547
00:40:46,100 --> 00:40:49,600
I repaired and always ran
the car . Marina did not drive .
548
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:56,800
We had only the basics .
We were like modern nomads .
549
00:40:57,366 --> 00:41:02,233
But it was the best time .
We had a lot of energy and power.
550
00:41:08,500 --> 00:41:09,766
Here is the Hudson River?
551
00:41:10,300 --> 00:41:13,933
Here is Hudson. Go ahead .
Red light , stop .
552
00:41:18,100 --> 00:41:19,200
Green light , go .
553
00:41:20,833 --> 00:41:23,900
Let's stop here
because I want to drive now .
554
00:41:24,133 --> 00:41:25,633
It is my historic moment .
555
00:41:25,766 --> 00:41:28,500
'll Drive for you
the first time in life.
556
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,733
I am willing
to sit beside her .
557
00:41:37,466 --> 00:41:38,400
Ulay .
558
00:41:39,333 --> 00:41:42,833
Never thought
would reach it . Never .
559
00:41:46,500 --> 00:41:48,733
- The lighthouse is lit ?
- Right .
560
00:41:48,866 --> 00:41:50,833
- Nope. Lighthouse is lit
- Yes , it is.
561
00:41:51,033 --> 00:41:53,766
- That's great .
- I had already called the lighthouse .
562
00:41:53,900 --> 00:41:55,866
The handbrake
is down ?
563
00:41:55,966 --> 00:41:57,966
He was pulled .
Not now .
564
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,866
I knew there was something
wrong.
565
00:42:03,733 --> 00:42:07,666
Let's stroll . You're
in my hands now .
566
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,400
It was what I feared.
567
00:42:11,466 --> 00:42:14,733
Turn right most .
A little more . Stop .
568
00:42:15,700 --> 00:42:17,500
Go, go . Is perfect.
569
00:42:20,933 --> 00:42:21,900
Go ahead .
570
00:42:22,566 --> 00:42:25,500
Only one meter,
or pass through the door .
571
00:42:27,700 --> 00:42:29,566
Well , I'm
a little nervous ...
572
00:42:31,300 --> 00:42:32,600
but surprised .
573
00:42:34,100 --> 00:42:37,666
From one to 10 , Ulay ,
what do you think ? Five ?
574
00:42:38,700 --> 00:42:39,766
- More .
- Six ?
575
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:41,166
More.
576
00:42:42,033 --> 00:42:44,466
- Okay, seven and a half .
- No seven .
577
00:42:45,633 --> 00:42:47,600
Seven is a good number .
578
00:42:48,533 --> 00:42:49,500
Great .
579
00:42:57,533 --> 00:42:58,533
Very well .
580
00:42:59,633 --> 00:43:02,466
Abramovic .
You work hard .
581
00:43:03,100 --> 00:43:05,733
- I only know how to do that.
- It is true .
582
00:43:05,900 --> 00:43:09,100
I will make zucchini sauce
pasta with this .
583
00:43:09,533 --> 00:43:12,500
Our relationship
was based on tasks ...
584
00:43:12,633 --> 00:43:17,400
of man and woman.
He did everything in the outside world ...
585
00:43:17,633 --> 00:43:20,900
took loans
money was going to the bank .
586
00:43:21,133 --> 00:43:24,066
And I cleaned , washed
and took care of the dog.
587
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,566
When we parted ,
I had no bank account .
588
00:43:27,700 --> 00:43:29,866
I did not know
how it worked .
589
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,033
It took me a while to
learn everything from scratch .
590
00:43:34,233 --> 00:43:35,533
You have opener ?
591
00:43:36,866 --> 00:43:41,766
After our simple life
she became too ambitious .
592
00:43:41,900 --> 00:43:45,266
Both at work
as in life itself ...
593
00:43:46,933 --> 00:43:49,333
with respect
the image and wealth.
594
00:43:50,666 --> 00:43:55,666
And I kept more in line
stable , straight after the split .
595
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,633
She climbed a
huge mountain ...
596
00:43:59,733 --> 00:44:01,200
with much success .
597
00:44:02,533 --> 00:44:05,900
This may be weird , but not
have time to push myself ...
598
00:44:06,033 --> 00:44:09,233
to make it
possible for me .
599
00:44:11,166 --> 00:44:15,100
But no need to do this ,
I'll marry her .
600
00:44:16,700 --> 00:44:21,233
Okay if I do
the food a bit spicy ?
601
00:44:23,066 --> 00:44:24,166
Pepperoncini ?
602
00:44:24,500 --> 00:44:29,500
I believe there are not many
artists working both ...
603
00:44:30,166 --> 00:44:31,233
as Marina .
604
00:44:32,033 --> 00:44:34,966
But she is always
very elegant .
605
00:44:38,666 --> 00:44:41,666
I look like a
field worker .
606
00:44:41,700 --> 00:44:44,000
I am a worker
in art .
607
00:44:44,666 --> 00:44:47,733
I look like a worker,
but much less work .
608
00:44:50,566 --> 00:44:53,066
Well , you know
what I mean .
609
00:44:54,733 --> 00:44:55,933
'm Lazy .
610
00:45:01,666 --> 00:45:04,400
The Nightsea Crossing is
a man and a woman ...
611
00:45:04,500 --> 00:45:06,933
sitting in front
of each other in chairs .
612
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,400
Sitting without moving,
silent ...
613
00:45:11,366 --> 00:45:12,366
and fast.
614
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:19,300
This portrays what is despised
in Western society .
615
00:45:20,766 --> 00:45:25,666
Inactivity, lack of action
silence are discredited ...
616
00:45:26,466 --> 00:45:28,200
Fasting is discredited .
617
00:45:28,366 --> 00:45:31,666
These three things
irritated people ...
618
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,633
especially when it lasted
four, five , six, seven ...
619
00:45:34,866 --> 00:45:38,233
eight, nine , ten, eleven , twelve
thirteen , fourteen, fifteen ...
620
00:45:38,333 --> 00:45:39,466
sixteen days .
621
00:45:40,866 --> 00:45:45,233
Inactivity, silence , fasting ,
absolutely still ...
622
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:47,966
which is almost impossible.
623
00:45:51,900 --> 00:45:55,200
We did Nightsea Crossing
for 90 non-consecutive days .
624
00:45:55,233 --> 00:45:56,500
Once I got up .
625
00:45:58,900 --> 00:46:00,100
Not take it anymore .
626
00:46:02,466 --> 00:46:04,733
A woman sits better
than the man ...
627
00:46:04,866 --> 00:46:10,033
because of the anatomy .
I gave up after 13 or 14 days .
628
00:46:10,466 --> 00:46:14,800
My ribs were
pushing so hard my spleen ...
629
00:46:15,233 --> 00:46:19,266
they said at the hospital :
\" You should stop fasting . \"
630
00:46:21,500 --> 00:46:23,866
I had already lost 10kg .
631
00:46:24,466 --> 00:46:28,133
This was beyond the bounds
on my part .
632
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:29,966
Once .
633
00:46:32,966 --> 00:46:36,133
He could not sit
because he was so skinny ...
634
00:46:36,233 --> 00:46:39,400
bones
penetrated his skin .
635
00:46:39,500 --> 00:46:42,133
Yogis do the same .
But he did not .
636
00:46:42,266 --> 00:46:44,866
Then he said :
\" You have to get up ...
637
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,166
it might not make
it without me . \"
638
00:46:47,500 --> 00:46:49,466
And I saw no reason for that.
639
00:46:49,500 --> 00:46:52,200
So keep doing
the Nightsea Crossing.
640
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,366
Still ,
but with the empty chair .
641
00:47:08,500 --> 00:47:13,166
Never had a relationship
with a woman , or man ...
642
00:47:13,500 --> 00:47:17,900
with such a degree
symbiotic quality.
643
00:47:18,300 --> 00:47:20,400
Twelve years have left us
exhausted .
644
00:47:29,333 --> 00:47:33,833
The Marina - Ulay , collaboration
in a simple, direct ...
645
00:47:34,166 --> 00:47:38,366
and deep , expressing
dynamic man / woman ...
646
00:47:38,866 --> 00:47:41,633
and reaches a
epic conclusion ...
647
00:47:42,566 --> 00:47:46,300
to walk on the Wall
China called The Lovers .
648
00:47:47,366 --> 00:47:50,866
She goes beyond what is
extravagant in proportion .
649
00:47:54,366 --> 00:47:59,300
The Lovers , where Marina and Ulay
walked in Wall of China ...
650
00:48:00,266 --> 00:48:01,333
was an epic .
651
00:48:03,066 --> 00:48:07,233
The process of three months
walking toward each other ...
652
00:48:09,300 --> 00:48:15,400
was very simple , without exaggeration
and extraordinarily clear .
653
00:48:20,333 --> 00:48:23,266
This was the last work
them in Relation Works .
654
00:48:26,766 --> 00:48:32,400
And walk in Wall of China
ended with their separation .
655
00:48:37,500 --> 00:48:41,166
Soon became
a great couple of artists ...
656
00:48:41,300 --> 00:48:43,900
and all projected
a perfect image .
657
00:48:44,133 --> 00:48:46,200
Actually ,
he was not happy ...
658
00:48:46,333 --> 00:48:49,500
and as they were better
our work ...
659
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,200
was our worst
private relationship.
660
00:48:55,166 --> 00:48:58,466
And then , his interests
were different from mine ...
661
00:48:58,566 --> 00:49:02,866
and he was experiencing
life , drinking , using drugs .
662
00:49:03,033 --> 00:49:06,700
Then he became unfaithful ,
which was very difficult for me .
663
00:49:08,566 --> 00:49:11,400
We were monogamous
to a point .
664
00:49:12,500 --> 00:49:17,400
When the rigor of that ideology
began to unravel ...
665
00:49:18,500 --> 00:49:19,500
started ...
666
00:49:21,666 --> 00:49:23,100
to disintegrate .
667
00:49:24,666 --> 00:49:28,266
Then , at the time, she had a
Sexual adventure with someone ...
668
00:49:28,700 --> 00:49:29,900
as I had .
669
00:49:30,866 --> 00:49:35,466
At the same time . Except she
chose a friend of ours . I did not .
670
00:49:37,566 --> 00:49:39,233
I should not have said that .
671
00:49:45,666 --> 00:49:48,733
It took us eight years
trading permission ...
672
00:49:48,833 --> 00:49:50,600
to walk
in Wall of China ...
673
00:49:50,733 --> 00:49:54,400
and he had to go to China several
times . She was the translator.
674
00:49:55,166 --> 00:49:58,900
When finished with the wall ,
he told me she was pregnant .
675
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,066
E asked :
\" What do I do ? \"
676
00:50:01,100 --> 00:50:02,700
I said, \" What do you do ?
677
00:50:02,733 --> 00:50:05,566
I'm leaving and you
do what you want . \"
678
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,466
Then they got married.
679
00:50:09,666 --> 00:50:13,266
It was like the beginning .
Ended as it began .
680
00:50:13,366 --> 00:50:16,233
Started quickly
and ended quickly .
681
00:50:18,566 --> 00:50:19,533
Was well .
682
00:50:24,533 --> 00:50:26,400
After I separated
of Ulay ...
683
00:50:26,533 --> 00:50:29,133
lived more time
dramatic of my life .
684
00:50:29,500 --> 00:50:33,933
I wrote in my diary :
\" I'm 40 , overweight ...
685
00:50:34,166 --> 00:50:35,900
ugly and undesirable . \"
686
00:50:36,133 --> 00:50:40,166
I thought, \" God , I lost the man
I love and my work . \"
687
00:50:40,333 --> 00:50:43,666
We worked together.
There was nothing . He was empty .
688
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,600
And it would be a new beginning ...
689
00:50:45,633 --> 00:50:49,666
or I would destroy me
with depression .
690
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:56,133
It was the first time I received
a penny in Paris ...
691
00:50:56,266 --> 00:51:01,233
and bought clothing couture .
I felt great .
692
00:51:01,533 --> 00:51:06,233
I went to the hairdresser , did pedicure
manicure. It was great .
693
00:51:07,133 --> 00:51:10,600
What is the price of this jacket ?
He is priceless .
694
00:51:10,733 --> 00:51:13,033
- You can not pay for it .
- Price .
695
00:51:13,333 --> 00:51:15,866
The price of couture
starts at eight thousand ...
696
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,933
and can reach
200 , 300 , 400 000 euros .
697
00:51:19,033 --> 00:51:20,233
Depends on the parts .
698
00:51:21,166 --> 00:51:24,533
I did it all to
right and I was fine.
699
00:51:24,766 --> 00:51:27,500
Why not feel good
and desired again?
700
00:51:28,333 --> 00:51:31,066
And since
I started worshiping fashion .
701
00:51:32,533 --> 00:51:34,633
It was like a secret desire .
702
00:51:35,066 --> 00:51:37,733
That is beautiful .
What do you think ?
703
00:51:40,500 --> 00:51:43,966
Being a performance artist
in the 70 , 80 was to be poor .
704
00:51:44,633 --> 00:51:45,933
Point . End point .
705
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:48,966
Goodbye ...
706
00:51:49,833 --> 00:51:50,800
extremes.
707
00:51:54,633 --> 00:51:58,700
After we parted ,
she was working in theater .
708
00:51:58,900 --> 00:52:00,466
There was money in it .
709
00:52:04,533 --> 00:52:05,500
Goodbye ...
710
00:52:06,466 --> 00:52:07,400
Ulay .
711
00:52:10,766 --> 00:52:14,666
The new jobs have it
a very formalist aesthetics.
712
00:52:18,533 --> 00:52:21,500
She had entered
in the theater world .
713
00:52:23,500 --> 00:52:24,700
Everything was on stage .
714
00:52:25,333 --> 00:52:26,966
With a theatrical flair .
715
00:52:32,133 --> 00:52:36,500
Marina is an artist
more theatrical, emotional ...
716
00:52:37,866 --> 00:52:39,500
much more dramatic ...
717
00:52:40,266 --> 00:52:42,233
than this display shows .
718
00:52:46,066 --> 00:52:49,133
The only risk
exhibit at MoMA ...
719
00:52:50,900 --> 00:52:54,366
how theatrical she will
be able to .
720
00:52:56,500 --> 00:52:58,733
Marina always say
there is a difference .
721
00:52:58,766 --> 00:53:01,900
In performance ,
there is a knife and the blood is your own.
722
00:53:02,333 --> 00:53:05,700
When you enacts ,
is ketchup and you do not cut yourself .
723
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,600
If we lose this
view in the MoMA ...
724
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,766
if it is only a fake knife
and ketchup , then fail .
725
00:53:21,833 --> 00:53:24,533
TWO WEEKS BEFORE
DISPLAY AT MoMA
726
00:53:24,566 --> 00:53:26,533
I'm in bed for six days .
727
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:29,900
Only bed .
728
00:53:32,966 --> 00:53:36,800
Damn, damn, damn .
Do not get out of bed for six days.
729
00:53:38,333 --> 00:53:42,500
I was so desperate
I took everything they gave me.
730
00:53:43,133 --> 00:53:46,833
Then I discovered that this syrup
have codeine. He's incredible .
731
00:53:47,266 --> 00:53:50,233
Never use drugs ,
but the codeine makes us happy.
732
00:53:50,766 --> 00:53:55,566
I slept like a baby all night
yesterday with a smile .
733
00:53:56,466 --> 00:53:57,633
Like an idiot .
734
00:53:58,400 --> 00:53:59,600
And here I am .
735
00:54:00,266 --> 00:54:03,700
Red is good
because it gives us strength.
736
00:54:04,500 --> 00:54:09,500
So if I have everything red
linens , scarf , pajamas , oranges ...
737
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,366
maybe I will get well soon .
738
00:54:16,966 --> 00:54:18,366
This was my monologue .
739
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,700
FIVE DAYS BEFORE
DISPLAY AT MoMA
740
00:54:28,766 --> 00:54:33,133
- How do you feel today ?
- I feel really bad .
741
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,300
I'm terrified .
Nothing .
742
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,666
We are all getting ready .
Marina can see a projection ?
743
00:54:42,833 --> 00:54:45,366
Let me see a projection .
Any.
744
00:54:46,233 --> 00:54:49,833
We have no electricity .
There's no way to connect the devices .
745
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,766
Nor have projectors .
Sorry . Not yet .
746
00:54:54,866 --> 00:54:56,500
There is nothing ! Nothing !
747
00:54:57,166 --> 00:55:00,700
Five days before display
and it seems that there will be no display .
748
00:55:01,233 --> 00:55:04,066
What makes me most
is nervous that room .
749
00:55:04,833 --> 00:55:06,700
The walls
are not in place.
750
00:55:08,566 --> 00:55:11,066
We can start the test ?
This is important .
751
00:55:11,300 --> 00:55:13,300
We can get them there ?
Come .
752
00:55:13,333 --> 00:55:14,300
How are you ?
753
00:55:15,066 --> 00:55:16,033
As well .
754
00:55:16,666 --> 00:55:17,633
Come .
755
00:55:19,366 --> 00:55:22,633
Let us sit two
seconds. I want to see everyone.
756
00:55:33,366 --> 00:55:36,733
This is so different
our workshop in the field.
757
00:55:36,866 --> 00:55:41,866
This is hell. And it is important to
be honest about all this ...
758
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,933
because I can not pretend
I'm calm . I'm not .
759
00:55:45,066 --> 00:55:49,466
And did not even have contact
staff with any of you.
760
00:55:49,533 --> 00:55:52,033
I have to trust
my life to you ...
761
00:55:52,133 --> 00:55:54,766
within three months of the exhibition .
There is no other way .
762
00:55:54,866 --> 00:55:56,300
Because I have to ...
763
00:55:56,500 --> 00:55:59,833
I need my energy
to do my part ...
764
00:56:00,066 --> 00:56:02,966
knowing that is
that's fine with the rest .
765
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,866
Thanks for coming
MoMA tonight .
766
00:56:14,066 --> 00:56:17,500
I am the curator of the retrospective
Marina Abramovic .
767
00:56:18,233 --> 00:56:20,733
And I'd like
to present Marina .
768
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,533
Thank you, Marina .
769
00:56:33,100 --> 00:56:35,600
Let's open mic
for questions .
770
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:40,100
It's the last chance to ask
something to her directly ...
771
00:56:40,300 --> 00:56:42,166
or will have to wait until June .
772
00:56:43,500 --> 00:56:47,400
It's so late , we hear
Three good questions .
773
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:52,100
- And at least one personal .
- How would we know that?
774
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,900
Question guys.
You look happy . You ?
775
00:57:00,300 --> 00:57:01,333
It depends .
776
00:57:02,466 --> 00:57:05,833
What can I say ?
I am very happy ...
777
00:57:05,933 --> 00:57:08,900
because I'm alone .
With whom I could live ...
778
00:57:09,033 --> 00:57:13,133
and do it for three months ?
No stay with me .
779
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,966
I am living
as a military training ...
780
00:57:17,033 --> 00:57:21,633
I am fully concentrated
this work three months .
781
00:57:21,733 --> 00:57:24,566
Sounds simple ,
I 'm in the lounge ...
782
00:57:24,700 --> 00:57:27,966
a sitting position .
Not so .
783
00:57:28,066 --> 00:57:31,666
It's very difficult because you
have to be like a stone .
784
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,733
I want to create a stillness
in the middle of hell .
785
00:57:36,366 --> 00:57:39,666
786
00:57:39,766 --> 00:57:43,933
787
00:57:44,333 --> 00:57:46,400
788
00:57:47,166 --> 00:57:49,900
789
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,066
790
00:57:55,100 --> 00:57:57,666
791
00:57:57,700 --> 00:57:59,500
792
00:58:01,033 --> 00:58:02,800
793
00:58:02,900 --> 00:58:06,933
794
00:58:07,133 --> 00:58:08,700
795
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,533
796
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,500
797
00:58:15,566 --> 00:58:18,533
798
00:58:26,266 --> 00:58:29,000
799
00:58:29,133 --> 00:58:31,733
800
00:58:38,500 --> 00:58:41,400
801
00:58:41,533 --> 00:58:44,800
802
00:58:44,933 --> 00:58:48,500
803
00:58:49,833 --> 00:58:54,633
804
00:58:54,966 --> 00:58:56,500
805
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:05,766
806
00:59:07,166 --> 00:59:11,833
807
00:59:12,666 --> 00:59:15,666
808
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:17,933
809
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:19,900
810
00:59:26,033 --> 00:59:29,300
811
00:59:30,266 --> 00:59:32,566
812
00:59:36,366 --> 00:59:37,333
813
00:59:38,466 --> 00:59:39,400
814
00:59:40,300 --> 00:59:42,700
815
00:59:42,966 --> 00:59:43,933
Thank you.
816
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:29,366
Thank you.
817
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,100
818
01:00:42,500 --> 01:00:43,566
819
01:00:45,766 --> 01:00:46,966
820
01:00:47,666 --> 01:00:48,633
821
01:01:17,500 --> 01:01:18,666
822
01:01:19,666 --> 01:01:21,200
823
01:04:52,666 --> 01:04:53,633
824
01:05:14,666 --> 01:05:18,166
825
01:05:19,133 --> 01:05:22,200
826
01:07:18,700 --> 01:07:20,766
827
01:07:21,766 --> 01:07:24,933
828
01:07:25,033 --> 01:07:28,866
829
01:07:29,033 --> 01:07:31,800
830
01:07:31,866 --> 01:07:33,833
831
01:07:33,966 --> 01:07:38,333
832
01:07:38,533 --> 01:07:40,833
833
01:07:40,966 --> 01:07:45,500
834
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:50,500
835
01:07:50,633 --> 01:07:54,200
836
01:07:54,466 --> 01:07:58,100
837
01:07:58,266 --> 01:08:01,500
838
01:08:01,533 --> 01:08:04,200
839
01:08:04,466 --> 01:08:05,533
840
01:08:09,666 --> 01:08:10,633
Let's go .
841
01:08:12,366 --> 01:08:14,500
842
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:16,233
843
01:08:16,366 --> 01:08:19,600
844
01:08:19,733 --> 01:08:21,700
845
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:24,866
846
01:08:36,666 --> 01:08:37,633
847
01:09:45,066 --> 01:09:49,000
848
01:09:49,233 --> 01:09:51,200
849
01:09:51,300 --> 01:09:54,233
850
01:09:54,366 --> 01:09:56,333
851
01:09:56,600 --> 01:10:00,066
852
01:10:00,933 --> 01:10:05,666
853
01:10:05,766 --> 01:10:09,800
854
01:10:09,933 --> 01:10:14,166
855
01:10:14,233 --> 01:10:17,766
856
01:10:17,833 --> 01:10:19,000
857
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:24,900
858
01:10:24,933 --> 01:10:25,900
859
01:10:27,633 --> 01:10:29,933
860
01:10:30,166 --> 01:10:35,166
861
01:10:36,666 --> 01:10:37,633
862
01:10:52,833 --> 01:10:56,100
863
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:01,400
864
01:11:01,533 --> 01:11:04,566
865
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:09,800
866
01:11:10,033 --> 01:11:14,300
867
01:11:14,966 --> 01:11:17,266
868
01:11:26,300 --> 01:11:28,366
869
01:11:28,533 --> 01:11:31,366
870
01:11:34,500 --> 01:11:36,800
871
01:11:36,866 --> 01:11:39,100
872
01:11:43,233 --> 01:11:47,966
873
01:11:51,333 --> 01:11:53,300
874
01:11:59,500 --> 01:12:02,800
875
01:12:05,966 --> 01:12:09,500
876
01:12:40,966 --> 01:12:44,700
877
01:12:44,833 --> 01:12:49,266
878
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,000
879
01:12:58,700 --> 01:13:01,266
880
01:13:02,166 --> 01:13:04,466
881
01:13:05,100 --> 01:13:07,733
882
01:13:08,933 --> 01:13:12,533
883
01:13:12,866 --> 01:13:15,033
884
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:21,166
885
01:13:32,733 --> 01:13:35,266
886
01:13:37,566 --> 01:13:41,266
887
01:13:44,666 --> 01:13:48,333
888
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:52,300
889
01:13:55,033 --> 01:13:59,200
890
01:14:03,166 --> 01:14:06,466
891
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:12,500
892
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:17,000
893
01:15:27,166 --> 01:15:30,866
894
01:15:31,100 --> 01:15:35,500
895
01:15:37,333 --> 01:15:40,166
Thank you .
896
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:42,566
Thank you.
897
01:15:45,166 --> 01:15:48,666
898
01:15:48,766 --> 01:15:49,733
899
01:15:49,766 --> 01:15:52,700
900
01:15:53,833 --> 01:15:55,333
901
01:15:55,366 --> 01:15:57,733
902
01:15:57,766 --> 01:16:00,666
903
01:16:01,133 --> 01:16:04,400
904
01:16:05,500 --> 01:16:08,666
Okay ?
905
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:12,900
Wait .
906
01:16:13,500 --> 01:16:15,566
907
01:16:17,733 --> 01:16:18,733
908
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:56,333
909
01:16:59,300 --> 01:17:00,400
910
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:09,366
Wow !
911
01:17:18,466 --> 01:17:21,166
912
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:24,233
913
01:17:24,566 --> 01:17:29,033
914
01:17:29,700 --> 01:17:31,333
915
01:17:32,300 --> 01:17:33,266
I do not know .
916
01:17:34,733 --> 01:17:35,700
Today ?
917
01:17:36,566 --> 01:17:38,100
918
01:17:38,233 --> 01:17:41,933
919
01:17:42,500 --> 01:17:46,000
920
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:48,166
921
01:17:48,966 --> 01:17:51,500
922
01:17:52,666 --> 01:17:54,300
923
01:17:54,966 --> 01:17:56,266
924
01:17:59,100 --> 01:18:01,800
925
01:18:01,933 --> 01:18:06,933
926
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:11,033
927
01:18:36,900 --> 01:18:40,933
928
01:18:42,033 --> 01:18:46,833
929
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:56,066
930
01:18:56,233 --> 01:19:00,166
931
01:19:02,700 --> 01:19:07,166
932
01:19:08,900 --> 01:19:12,866
933
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:22,100
934
01:19:22,233 --> 01:19:23,866
935
01:19:49,366 --> 01:19:51,666
936
01:20:01,500 --> 01:20:03,000
937
01:20:03,733 --> 01:20:07,500
938
01:20:09,533 --> 01:20:13,500
939
01:20:13,700 --> 01:20:16,300
940
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:57,966
941
01:21:58,666 --> 01:22:01,033
942
01:22:05,133 --> 01:22:07,000
943
01:22:08,733 --> 01:22:09,733
It's nothing.
944
01:22:10,366 --> 01:22:13,533
945
01:22:24,500 --> 01:22:27,633
946
01:22:27,733 --> 01:22:29,800
947
01:22:29,933 --> 01:22:34,833
948
01:22:35,466 --> 01:22:36,533
949
01:22:39,700 --> 01:22:43,933
950
01:22:44,166 --> 01:22:47,500
951
01:22:47,733 --> 01:22:50,500
The difference is that there is
a blockage between them ...
952
01:22:50,533 --> 01:22:52,700
from the viewpoint
security.
953
01:22:53,133 --> 01:22:54,866
If someone does something ...
954
01:22:55,100 --> 01:22:58,166
there is nothing preventing
someone to do something .
955
01:22:58,500 --> 01:23:01,833
That's what I think .
But instruct the public ...
956
01:23:02,033 --> 01:23:06,866
which to sit , no one can
move, tap on it , nothing .
957
01:23:10,300 --> 01:23:14,000
She becomes more vulnerable .
It is much more straightforward.
958
01:23:14,133 --> 01:23:18,366
There is no obstacle between it
and the public . She was right .
959
01:23:18,700 --> 01:23:20,500
Fathers do not need the cross.
960
01:23:28,766 --> 01:23:29,733
MAY
961
01:23:48,966 --> 01:23:49,933
Nine , December
962
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:52,133
Three , two, one .
963
01:24:52,533 --> 01:24:54,833
- Show me your numbers .
- What's that ?
964
01:24:55,166 --> 01:24:58,466
This is the number system
Marina Abramovic .
965
01:25:00,866 --> 01:25:04,566
- We're almost done .
- You said that in April too.
966
01:25:06,100 --> 01:25:10,133
This is detail . Do not
can grab a few minutes here and there .
967
01:25:10,866 --> 01:25:11,866
A few minutes ?
968
01:25:12,466 --> 01:25:14,900
What's more
a month, year , or week.
969
01:25:14,933 --> 01:25:15,900
You rascal !
970
01:25:17,266 --> 01:25:19,766
- Do not cling to ...
- Details .
971
01:25:20,333 --> 01:25:23,166
- Think big .
- Yes , think big .
972
01:25:24,166 --> 01:25:25,133
That's it.
973
01:25:30,833 --> 01:25:32,666
- I'm fine .
- Okay ?
974
01:25:36,633 --> 01:25:40,333
The museum is open .
Come on, please! Come on !
975
01:25:50,733 --> 01:25:53,500
- I'm number five .
- She's five , I 'm four .
976
01:25:56,366 --> 01:25:57,333
One, two ...
977
01:25:57,833 --> 01:25:58,800
three .
978
01:26:06,300 --> 01:26:09,566
Stood in line several days
and could not enter.
979
01:26:10,100 --> 01:26:12,266
You stood in queue ? When?
980
01:26:12,366 --> 01:26:15,466
I arrived yesterday at 5pm ,
but I could not .
981
01:26:16,533 --> 01:26:17,500
It is very ...
982
01:26:18,966 --> 01:26:21,133
Now in the end
is very competitive .
983
01:26:26,700 --> 01:26:29,233
People camp
all night and expect.
984
01:26:29,333 --> 01:26:32,066
It reminds me
the issue of celebrity ...
985
01:26:32,333 --> 01:26:34,200
Star performance .
986
01:26:35,733 --> 01:26:37,500
It is a matter of fans .
987
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:41,300
What is very interesting
in her work ...
988
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:44,133
is the aspect of screen
blank .
989
01:26:44,566 --> 01:26:47,533
What causes in all
in the art world ...
990
01:26:47,666 --> 01:26:51,233
those who say
know the work very well ...
991
01:26:51,366 --> 01:26:54,633
forming part of
vocabulary of the language ...
992
01:26:54,966 --> 01:26:56,700
and strangers too .
993
01:26:57,033 --> 01:26:59,866
People who ask :
\" Why does she do that? \"
994
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:04,200
And this is interesting because
we also ...
995
01:27:04,733 --> 01:27:07,133
these giant screens
projections .
996
01:27:50,100 --> 01:27:52,833
Connecting Marina
with the public ...
997
01:27:53,700 --> 01:27:58,633
comes this emptiness she feels ,
or felt as a child .
998
01:28:02,500 --> 01:28:05,700
She wants to be loved ,
be needed .
999
01:28:16,633 --> 01:28:18,600
Marina has the feel ...
1000
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:22,100
you need the public ...
1001
01:28:23,533 --> 01:28:25,166
like the air to breathe .
1002
01:28:28,133 --> 01:28:29,866
That's the fuel it.
1003
01:28:31,733 --> 01:28:34,133
She lives for her art ,
to the public.
1004
01:28:38,066 --> 01:28:39,400
When I met her ...
1005
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:43,200
I thought , \"Wow , she is
in love with me . \"
1006
01:28:43,766 --> 01:28:45,400
And it took me a while ...
1007
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:49,233
to understand that she is
in love with the world.
1008
01:28:50,100 --> 01:28:51,400
It is not personal .
1009
01:28:51,733 --> 01:28:54,700
\"I do not think it's personal
'm in love with the world ...
1010
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:56,000
not only for you. \"
1011
01:28:57,500 --> 01:29:00,866
I realized she
is repeating it ...
1012
01:29:00,966 --> 01:29:03,600
with each
of the people in the hall .
1013
01:29:24,100 --> 01:29:25,166
All right , Mom?
1014
01:29:27,900 --> 01:29:31,400
- What happened
- I'm well proud of you .
1015
01:29:36,266 --> 01:29:38,233
I do not know if the public
idolizes me .
1016
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:42,100
Belongs to him how to design it ,
but it's not my goal .
1017
01:29:43,300 --> 01:29:46,800
If you get a
point of his career ...
1018
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:50,400
who is idolized ,
has money and fame ...
1019
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:53,900
this is not the goal of art ,
is only a side effect .
1020
01:29:56,733 --> 01:30:00,666
It is an extra product .
And I love the extra product.
1021
01:30:11,266 --> 01:30:14,466
There are people around,
you know it ...
1022
01:30:16,366 --> 01:30:19,400
but the connection with Marina
is so strong it does not matter.
1023
01:30:19,466 --> 01:30:22,166
- Erases all the rest .
- She is acting ?
1024
01:30:22,300 --> 01:30:25,233
If you say no .
Who is acting ...
1025
01:30:27,733 --> 01:30:30,600
the only similarity is
that there are people watching .
1026
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:33,200
The sacrifice
a performance ...
1027
01:30:33,233 --> 01:30:35,500
seems always to
based on performance .
1028
01:30:35,535 --> 01:30:37,233
- Maybe .
- Are you an actor ?
1029
01:30:39,100 --> 01:30:41,400
Do you feel this presence .
1030
01:30:44,500 --> 01:30:47,966
Attention, please.
The museum is closed .
1031
01:30:48,733 --> 01:30:53,000
Please return units
audio reception.
1032
01:31:13,033 --> 01:31:14,666
Tunji knew told me ...
1033
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:18,066
that 750 000 people
saw the display ?
1034
01:31:18,933 --> 01:31:20,266
It's almost a million .
1035
01:31:22,766 --> 01:31:26,800
We must extend one more
month terms to one million .
1036
01:31:33,166 --> 01:31:35,766
Let's go . That's the cook ?
1037
01:31:37,466 --> 01:31:38,733
He is a genius .
1038
01:31:42,133 --> 01:31:44,866
Who was that
asian ?
1039
01:31:46,833 --> 01:31:48,133
You like it?
1040
01:31:49,133 --> 01:31:51,333
We can take
the phone number ?
1041
01:31:51,533 --> 01:31:53,400
He was cool. Sexy .
1042
01:31:54,500 --> 01:31:56,000
We're almost done .
1043
01:31:59,733 --> 01:32:02,866
After seeing the exhibition
Marina for the first time ...
1044
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:06,366
I was inspired to do
my own art performance .
1045
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:11,200
Create one . Staying here
is a presentation ...
1046
01:32:11,300 --> 01:32:14,566
devote so much
commitment to it .
1047
01:32:15,766 --> 01:32:16,866
The LAST DAY
1048
01:32:17,566 --> 01:32:18,666
Got there .
1049
01:32:19,533 --> 01:32:20,500
Almost there .
1050
01:32:22,866 --> 01:32:26,566
Next Saturday I will be
in the field. What will be too .
1051
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:31,500
I wanted to have a number,
but I'm not .
1052
01:32:31,933 --> 01:32:34,666
Came from Australia to
sit with Marina .
1053
01:32:34,733 --> 01:32:35,866
It takes number ?
1054
01:32:42,733 --> 01:32:44,700
I am sad and happy .
1055
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:56,166
Marina , we are going
on the street for 53 you see the queue ...
1056
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:57,500
the last time.
1057
01:32:57,900 --> 01:33:00,400
They arrived on Wednesday
or Thursday night .
1058
01:33:00,466 --> 01:33:04,966
One girl had the idea
come around 22h .
1059
01:33:06,066 --> 01:33:07,033
Wow !
1060
01:33:07,266 --> 01:33:10,500
And from then on ,
people do not go away .
1061
01:33:10,566 --> 01:33:12,400
They are seated .
1062
01:33:12,733 --> 01:33:15,600
Leave the museum and sit
on the door until morning .
1063
01:33:34,100 --> 01:33:36,833
My God , this is amazing .
This is the last day .
1064
01:33:37,066 --> 01:33:39,900
I guess nobody
imagined it .
1065
01:33:40,333 --> 01:33:41,333
What time is it ?
1066
01:33:41,533 --> 01:33:43,733
Are 10h13 . Ten and fifteen .
1067
01:33:43,933 --> 01:33:46,333
- We go to the chairs ?
- Sure .
1068
01:33:46,466 --> 01:33:48,966
Already planned .
I know what to do .
1069
01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:52,133
We will do intervals
15 minutes .
1070
01:33:52,566 --> 01:33:57,366
You tap on the shoulder of the person
and says the time is up .
1071
01:33:57,900 --> 01:34:00,333
The museum only opens at 10:30 am ...
1072
01:34:00,366 --> 01:34:02,500
but let
1073
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:05,500
Who will not sit
Marina before ...
1074
01:34:05,633 --> 01:34:08,133
not one now.
Wait until the museum open .
1075
01:34:43,533 --> 01:34:47,366
Sitting with Marina
1076
01:34:47,566 --> 01:34:49,633
You expect
become ?
1077
01:34:50,566 --> 01:34:54,833
No, when I first
time , I decided to try ...
1078
01:34:55,166 --> 01:34:57,233
and then it happened.
1079
01:35:29,866 --> 01:35:30,866
Take it from there .
1080
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:40,000
\" We came to sit with Marina ,
the whore of Babylon ...
1081
01:35:40,133 --> 01:35:45,500
and confess . Superfluous speech
pure form against pure form ...
1082
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:48,733
reflection of the empty
full value .
1083
01:35:49,066 --> 01:35:53,000
We came to the last
spectators before the crucifixion .
1084
01:35:53,333 --> 01:35:56,166
Sat as apostles
at her table ...
1085
01:35:56,366 --> 01:35:59,000
and our indifference betrays . \"
1086
01:36:01,366 --> 01:36:03,633
It seems like a
matter of time ...
1087
01:36:03,666 --> 01:36:07,266
when to throw in the face
someone is art .
1088
01:36:10,666 --> 01:36:13,366
You will sit in front
of the artist in silence.
1089
01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:16,233
There will be no distractions
somehow .
1090
01:36:16,366 --> 01:36:19,600
No gesture , speak ,
do not touch hands .
1091
01:36:20,166 --> 01:36:21,533
What happened ? Okay ?
1092
01:36:21,566 --> 01:36:24,300
- Are you nervous ?
- I've been waiting 16 hours .
1093
01:36:24,466 --> 01:36:27,366
Your time is coming .
I 'll let you know . Thank you .
1094
01:37:21,966 --> 01:37:24,100
Send the next
sit , please.
1095
01:37:24,133 --> 01:37:25,766
- We will .
- I 'm next .
1096
01:37:25,866 --> 01:37:26,866
I know, I know .
1097
01:37:28,300 --> 01:37:30,166
The performance
must continue.
1098
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:33,600
- We expect Tunji .
- Really? We must continue .
1099
01:38:33,833 --> 01:38:36,200
I hope
back upstairs.
1100
01:38:36,333 --> 01:38:38,633
Do not know if you
should shoot me .
1101
01:38:41,500 --> 01:38:43,466
I'd love to sit down
before her.
1102
01:38:43,533 --> 01:38:45,933
I did not realize
that there were rules .
1103
01:38:46,166 --> 01:38:48,900
I would have obeyed
if I knew .
1104
01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:52,066
But I wanted
to be spontaneous.
1105
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:55,833
What no one knew ,
that was something special with her .
1106
01:38:55,866 --> 01:38:58,500
And I thought that
Square ...
1107
01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:01,600
the public do
art piece.
1108
01:39:02,166 --> 01:39:05,333
And I wanted to be
vulnerable to it ...
1109
01:39:05,533 --> 01:39:07,600
as it is for everyone.
1110
01:39:13,566 --> 01:39:17,166
I think this display
is a self-portrait . It's her .
1111
01:39:17,300 --> 01:39:19,700
She sits and delivery .
1112
01:39:24,200 --> 01:39:26,066
She always talks
the here and now ...
1113
01:39:27,033 --> 01:39:28,133
but this piece ...
1114
01:39:28,766 --> 01:39:31,600
Marina Abramovic call :
The Artist is Present ...
1115
01:39:31,633 --> 01:39:32,800
is a self-portrait .
1116
01:39:40,266 --> 01:39:42,766
She created a space
charismatic ...
1117
01:39:43,100 --> 01:39:46,033
a rent
the fabric of the universe ...
1118
01:39:46,166 --> 01:39:48,666
it was just her,
she occupied .
1119
01:39:50,100 --> 01:39:53,500
And she did it in a room
full of many people .
1120
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:56,966
And many people felt
charismatic this space ...
1121
01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:58,733
as a reality .
1122
01:39:59,233 --> 01:40:01,333
This is an achievement
extraordinary .
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