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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,033 2 00:00:30,197 --> 00:00:35,160 ♪ Now they're planning The crime of the century ♪ 3 00:00:36,286 --> 00:00:39,665 ♪ Well what will it be? ♪ 4 00:00:45,963 --> 00:00:50,592 ♪ Read all about their schemes And adventuring ♪ 5 00:00:52,135 --> 00:00:55,806 ♪ It's well worth the fee ♪ 6 00:01:01,061 --> 00:01:02,813 We are living in a glorious time, 7 00:01:02,896 --> 00:01:04,690 a time of great conflict to be sure. 8 00:01:04,940 --> 00:01:07,067 Today, a nationwide crackdown was underway... 9 00:01:07,150 --> 00:01:09,653 ...eight men were arrested from... 10 00:01:09,736 --> 00:01:12,072 ...hardcore pornographic pictures. 11 00:01:13,740 --> 00:01:16,201 On one side of the coin are those in favor 12 00:01:16,285 --> 00:01:17,911 of absolutely no censorship. 13 00:01:20,289 --> 00:01:23,125 On the other hand, there are those who advocate 14 00:01:23,208 --> 00:01:26,712 the government dictating to us what we should see, 15 00:01:27,504 --> 00:01:29,006 read, and hear. 16 00:01:29,089 --> 00:01:32,175 ...they say it all started with the sex film Deep Throat. 17 00:01:48,275 --> 00:01:50,944 I saw Deep Throat in New York when it first came out. 18 00:01:55,324 --> 00:01:57,242 People were lined up 19 00:01:57,326 --> 00:01:59,620 for at least three blocks. 20 00:02:00,662 --> 00:02:05,292 ♪ I was once out strolling One very hot summer's day ♪ 21 00:02:05,375 --> 00:02:08,920 Oh, yeah, there was a screening in some psychoanalyst's apartment 22 00:02:09,004 --> 00:02:11,506 and everybody watched and smoked dope. Oh, yeah. 23 00:02:11,673 --> 00:02:14,635 ♪ I dreamed I was In a Hollywood movie ♪ 24 00:02:16,094 --> 00:02:18,680 ♪ That I was the star Of the movie ♪ 25 00:02:19,681 --> 00:02:21,600 ♪ This really blew my mind ♪ 26 00:02:21,683 --> 00:02:23,602 I thought, "Fantastic. 27 00:02:23,685 --> 00:02:26,104 This is going to change the climate 28 00:02:26,855 --> 00:02:29,983 of talking about issues of sexuality 29 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,444 in these United States." 30 00:02:32,527 --> 00:02:36,365 ♪ Spill the wine And take that pearl ♪ 31 00:02:36,865 --> 00:02:39,993 I'm one of the handful of people who never saw it. 32 00:02:40,577 --> 00:02:42,204 I didn't intend to not see it. 33 00:02:44,039 --> 00:02:46,708 Perhaps you could arrange for me to see it. 34 00:02:47,250 --> 00:02:48,293 Now. 35 00:02:59,596 --> 00:03:02,015 Deep Throat was an epochal moment 36 00:03:02,099 --> 00:03:03,892 in the history of modern sexuality. 37 00:03:03,975 --> 00:03:07,187 It was the first time that respectable middle-class women 38 00:03:07,270 --> 00:03:09,106 went to porn theaters. 39 00:03:11,483 --> 00:03:12,984 It really broke down, 40 00:03:13,068 --> 00:03:15,487 uh, traditional codes of, of decorum. 41 00:03:18,532 --> 00:03:19,950 Linda Lovelace, 42 00:03:20,033 --> 00:03:22,661 and conversations, and jokes about Deep Throat, 43 00:03:22,744 --> 00:03:24,579 appeared on network television. 44 00:03:24,830 --> 00:03:26,665 If the film became mainstream, 45 00:03:26,748 --> 00:03:29,084 conversation about it became truly mainstream. 46 00:03:29,334 --> 00:03:31,002 It's kind of a strange country, isn't it? 47 00:03:31,086 --> 00:03:33,463 Judges can see Deep Throat, but they can't listen to those tapes. 48 00:03:35,841 --> 00:03:37,926 I think the major thing that set, uh, 49 00:03:38,009 --> 00:03:39,553 Deep Throat apart was, 50 00:03:39,636 --> 00:03:40,929 it had a gimmick. 51 00:03:41,012 --> 00:03:42,264 Ah! Ah! 52 00:03:43,682 --> 00:03:46,518 Well, there it is, you little bugger, there it is. 53 00:03:46,601 --> 00:03:47,811 What? 54 00:03:48,061 --> 00:03:51,314 Your clitoris, it's deep down in the bottom of your throat. 55 00:03:52,691 --> 00:03:54,609 The clitoris hidden in the throat 56 00:03:54,693 --> 00:03:56,611 was something you could talk about and laugh about. 57 00:03:56,778 --> 00:03:58,864 It's better than having no clitoris at all. 58 00:04:00,031 --> 00:04:02,159 That's easy for you to say. 59 00:04:03,577 --> 00:04:06,121 Suppose your balls were in your ear. 60 00:04:07,164 --> 00:04:09,708 I was 19 when I saw it. 61 00:04:09,791 --> 00:04:12,294 I don't think I had found where the clitoris really was. 62 00:04:12,502 --> 00:04:14,004 So I think the idea 63 00:04:14,087 --> 00:04:15,630 that it was misplaced 64 00:04:15,714 --> 00:04:17,632 on the human body was lost on me. 65 00:04:17,716 --> 00:04:20,427 I, I was looking for the original site. 66 00:04:21,595 --> 00:04:22,929 It was a giggle. 67 00:04:23,013 --> 00:04:25,682 And the worst thing to be said about us, as Americans, 68 00:04:25,766 --> 00:04:27,392 is that we'll sell our souls for a giggle. 69 00:04:27,476 --> 00:04:29,394 Listen, uh, we have the problem solved. 70 00:04:29,478 --> 00:04:31,688 All we have to do now is find the solution. 71 00:04:31,938 --> 00:04:33,523 Like what? 72 00:04:33,607 --> 00:04:34,775 Like deep throat. 73 00:04:37,319 --> 00:04:38,236 Deep what? 74 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:39,237 Throat. 75 00:04:39,321 --> 00:04:41,573 Have you ever taken a penis all the way down 76 00:04:41,656 --> 00:04:42,741 to the bottom of your throat? 77 00:04:52,667 --> 00:04:54,836 It was a badge of the new freedom. 78 00:04:56,171 --> 00:04:57,422 Have you been to the experience 79 00:04:57,506 --> 00:04:58,924 of paying to go in a porno theater 80 00:05:00,175 --> 00:05:01,593 and see a woman give a blowjob 81 00:05:01,676 --> 00:05:03,762 in a movie theater in your community? 82 00:05:03,845 --> 00:05:04,971 That was very, very new. 83 00:05:06,014 --> 00:05:08,475 Something that's hard for people today to imagine, 84 00:05:08,558 --> 00:05:10,185 how liberating that was. 85 00:05:10,268 --> 00:05:13,063 Or... Or terrible, depending on what you believe in. 86 00:05:15,273 --> 00:05:17,275 It's a floodtide of filth that's engulfed 87 00:05:17,359 --> 00:05:18,860 the minds and hearts and souls 88 00:05:18,944 --> 00:05:20,946 of America like nothing else ever has. 89 00:05:22,155 --> 00:05:25,534 We have smut all over the face of this country now 90 00:05:25,617 --> 00:05:29,412 because we are letting those immoral people 91 00:05:29,496 --> 00:05:32,332 have their way in our country. 92 00:05:36,086 --> 00:05:38,880 Deep Throat succeeded commercially at least in part 93 00:05:38,964 --> 00:05:41,508 because the government went after it. 94 00:05:41,591 --> 00:05:44,386 The government became the driving force 95 00:05:44,469 --> 00:05:46,221 behind the public relations. 96 00:05:49,891 --> 00:05:52,769 I just saw it and I liked it. 97 00:05:52,852 --> 00:05:56,231 I liked it. I wanted to see a dirty picture and that's what I saw. 98 00:05:56,314 --> 00:05:59,401 But I want the right to see that picture. 99 00:05:59,484 --> 00:06:03,029 I don't want somebody telling me that I can't see a dirty picture. 100 00:06:06,116 --> 00:06:09,411 Deep Throat attacks the very core of our being. 101 00:06:41,151 --> 00:06:43,320 Every time someone watches that movie, 102 00:06:43,403 --> 00:06:45,238 they're watching me being raped. 103 00:06:49,242 --> 00:06:52,495 Do I belong in jail for five years for acting in Deep Throat? 104 00:06:56,291 --> 00:06:59,377 Deep Throat now has had a phenomenal success 105 00:06:59,461 --> 00:07:01,630 going on for two-and-a-half years, 106 00:07:01,713 --> 00:07:03,590 and it's only because it's being hassled. 107 00:07:03,673 --> 00:07:05,759 Do you think it's a good movie? 108 00:07:05,842 --> 00:07:08,470 No, I don't think it's a good movie. 109 00:07:31,660 --> 00:07:33,870 I'm takin' a walk, Mrs. Brown. 110 00:07:35,997 --> 00:07:38,333 I am doing fine, dear, thank you. 111 00:07:52,138 --> 00:07:56,267 ♪ I rode my bicycle Past your window last night ♪ 112 00:07:58,061 --> 00:08:02,899 ♪ I roller-skated To your door at daylight ♪ 113 00:08:03,650 --> 00:08:08,321 ♪ It almost seems Like you're avoiding me ♪ 114 00:08:09,030 --> 00:08:10,907 These are some pictures 115 00:08:10,991 --> 00:08:13,159 or posters from some of the films I've done. 116 00:08:14,452 --> 00:08:18,289 ♪ Well, I got a brand new pair Of roller-skates ♪ 117 00:08:18,373 --> 00:08:19,958 ♪ You got a brand new key ♪ 118 00:08:20,041 --> 00:08:21,793 I don't know. They're kind of cute. 119 00:08:21,876 --> 00:08:23,503 ♪ I think that we should Get together ♪ 120 00:08:23,586 --> 00:08:28,216 A picture of Gerard, my son, when he was a lot younger, 121 00:08:28,717 --> 00:08:30,635 and my daughter when she was younger. 122 00:08:32,846 --> 00:08:36,641 Long before Deep Throat, Damiano was a family man. 123 00:08:36,725 --> 00:08:40,228 He and his wife ran a beauty salon in Queens, New York. 124 00:08:40,770 --> 00:08:43,231 ♪ Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ 125 00:08:43,314 --> 00:08:45,567 I enjoyed being a hairdresser 126 00:08:45,650 --> 00:08:48,820 because I always could relate to women. 127 00:08:50,155 --> 00:08:52,365 After you got to know the woman, 128 00:08:52,449 --> 00:08:55,368 especially when you worked on them weekly, 129 00:08:55,452 --> 00:08:57,412 you start to get into history 130 00:08:57,495 --> 00:09:00,206 about "we went to the movies" and "he did this and I did..." 131 00:09:00,290 --> 00:09:02,125 And you realize that most-- 132 00:09:02,208 --> 00:09:04,252 Most of the women were very unhappy 133 00:09:04,335 --> 00:09:06,421 in their relationship 134 00:09:06,504 --> 00:09:09,340 with the person that they were married to 135 00:09:09,424 --> 00:09:10,800 and supposedly in love with. 136 00:09:11,718 --> 00:09:14,929 After 40 years of marriage, you know, you can get 137 00:09:16,014 --> 00:09:18,349 tired of the good old in and out. 138 00:09:19,309 --> 00:09:22,020 You, you got to be intimate. It was almost like a priest. 139 00:09:22,103 --> 00:09:24,355 I mean, I don't wanna say I was a priest, 140 00:09:24,439 --> 00:09:26,524 but it was almost like-- It was almost like a confessor. 141 00:09:27,358 --> 00:09:30,403 The confessions Damiano heard in his salon, 142 00:09:30,487 --> 00:09:33,907 made him realize he was on the frontlines of a sexual revolution. 143 00:09:37,577 --> 00:09:39,662 We grew up in a time 144 00:09:39,746 --> 00:09:42,707 in which sex itself was largely taboo. 145 00:09:43,458 --> 00:09:46,878 When I was a kid, young people didn't even know where babies came from. 146 00:09:46,961 --> 00:09:47,962 I'd love to know. 147 00:09:48,046 --> 00:09:50,965 If I watch the rest of this program, will I know the answer? 148 00:09:52,425 --> 00:09:55,178 Gore Vidal would be very good on the subject. 149 00:09:56,054 --> 00:09:59,099 You must take into account how ignorant people are. 150 00:09:59,182 --> 00:10:00,642 Particularly our countrymen 151 00:10:00,725 --> 00:10:02,811 who have never taken a course in biology, 152 00:10:02,894 --> 00:10:04,187 never read a book. 153 00:10:04,813 --> 00:10:07,607 Do you know anything about the facts of life? 154 00:10:07,690 --> 00:10:09,234 Not very much, I'm afraid. 155 00:10:11,111 --> 00:10:13,863 The facts of life and sexual morality in general 156 00:10:13,947 --> 00:10:15,448 were forbidden topics. 157 00:10:15,532 --> 00:10:18,201 But as all that changed, issues about sexuality 158 00:10:18,284 --> 00:10:20,120 began to divide society. 159 00:10:20,286 --> 00:10:23,623 Artificial contraception is wrong. 160 00:10:24,124 --> 00:10:25,250 Evil. 161 00:10:25,416 --> 00:10:27,168 People were experimenting. 162 00:10:27,252 --> 00:10:28,962 They were looking for new kinds of lives. 163 00:10:29,045 --> 00:10:32,382 They were looking to break out of all the old molds. 164 00:10:36,970 --> 00:10:39,264 And we knew the American public were tired 165 00:10:39,347 --> 00:10:40,557 of words like "coitus." 166 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,559 They wanted words like "fuck," 167 00:10:42,642 --> 00:10:44,519 and "suck," and "eat my cunt." 168 00:10:45,645 --> 00:10:48,857 I think the more that filth is thrown at Americans 169 00:10:48,940 --> 00:10:50,650 the less favored it becomes. 170 00:10:52,944 --> 00:10:56,156 They're depicting sex in a very filthy way. 171 00:10:56,489 --> 00:10:58,408 Jackie Kennedy went to see that. 172 00:10:58,491 --> 00:11:00,201 The next week, the gross doubled. 173 00:11:02,203 --> 00:11:05,373 I, I don't mind seeing sex in a, in a movie just for its own sake 174 00:11:05,456 --> 00:11:07,167 because I think that's one of the, you know, 175 00:11:07,250 --> 00:11:09,169 the more interesting human emotions. 176 00:11:09,502 --> 00:11:12,547 Sex was in movies. Sex was on TV. 177 00:11:12,922 --> 00:11:15,091 Sex came out of the closet. 178 00:11:20,179 --> 00:11:23,141 You had to be there. You had to be there. 179 00:11:23,224 --> 00:11:25,268 I'm thrilled that I was there. 180 00:11:25,351 --> 00:11:27,312 And thank God I had a camera with me. 181 00:11:27,645 --> 00:11:30,106 As the sexual revolution swept through society, 182 00:11:30,189 --> 00:11:33,276 people took sides in a culture war that was gathering steam. 183 00:11:33,359 --> 00:11:35,820 Gerry Damiano joined the fray by swapping 184 00:11:35,904 --> 00:11:37,864 his blow-dryer for a movie camera. 185 00:11:37,947 --> 00:11:40,825 I loved film. I always did. 186 00:11:40,909 --> 00:11:43,661 The only thing you could make was sex films. 187 00:11:43,912 --> 00:11:46,456 Uh, that was the only thing you were allowed to make 188 00:11:46,539 --> 00:11:48,124 and you made them at a low budget. 189 00:11:48,666 --> 00:11:53,087 Doing hardcore films in those days, the early '70s, 190 00:11:53,588 --> 00:11:56,591 was very much like summer stock. 191 00:11:57,675 --> 00:11:58,927 It was like, 192 00:11:59,052 --> 00:12:01,596 "Daddy has a barn, let's do a show." 193 00:12:03,264 --> 00:12:04,349 Oh, my! 194 00:12:04,432 --> 00:12:05,433 Oh! 195 00:12:07,602 --> 00:12:11,397 It, it was the only choice we had. 196 00:12:11,481 --> 00:12:14,233 It took... 24 years old without, 197 00:12:14,943 --> 00:12:18,279 you know, uh, uh... 198 00:12:18,905 --> 00:12:22,033 What do you call it, uh, a track record, you know. 199 00:12:22,325 --> 00:12:24,702 And these things were so inexpensive. 200 00:12:24,911 --> 00:12:27,538 Okay, what I want now is some of your ass, 201 00:12:27,622 --> 00:12:28,748 all right? 202 00:12:29,082 --> 00:12:30,792 I meant business. 203 00:12:30,875 --> 00:12:33,169 I approached those films as if... 204 00:12:34,545 --> 00:12:37,882 I was Luc Godard or somebody, you know. 205 00:12:38,174 --> 00:12:39,676 And just wiggle it towards us. 206 00:12:39,759 --> 00:12:42,387 I want to fill up 40 feet of screen with your ass. 207 00:12:45,848 --> 00:12:47,934 You're always after my ass. 208 00:12:48,601 --> 00:12:50,103 Keep wigglin'. 209 00:12:51,521 --> 00:12:53,439 That's where I met half of the people 210 00:12:53,523 --> 00:12:55,984 that I became acquainted with. 211 00:12:56,442 --> 00:12:57,777 We were all working for nothing. 212 00:12:58,069 --> 00:13:00,697 Well, one of Gerry's motivations 213 00:13:01,614 --> 00:13:02,991 was to get laid. 214 00:13:05,118 --> 00:13:07,745 Really. And he did. 215 00:13:09,455 --> 00:13:11,207 You could make a living 216 00:13:11,290 --> 00:13:14,002 if you were a filmmaker, making these films. 217 00:13:14,168 --> 00:13:17,296 Quite a number of people became legitimate Hollywood directors 218 00:13:17,380 --> 00:13:18,381 out of the porn industry. 219 00:13:18,589 --> 00:13:21,175 I mean, for a while there, it was kinda like the entry level job 220 00:13:21,259 --> 00:13:22,552 that you would do. 221 00:13:22,635 --> 00:13:24,929 Uh, you would work on... on porn. 222 00:13:26,973 --> 00:13:28,558 I'm... I, I certainly worked on them. 223 00:13:28,641 --> 00:13:30,810 I'm not gonna say which ones, but I, I was around it. 224 00:13:31,269 --> 00:13:33,187 All of sudden, there was a new word. 225 00:13:33,271 --> 00:13:35,273 It was called "filmmaker." 226 00:13:35,523 --> 00:13:38,192 You became an independent filmmaker. 227 00:13:39,152 --> 00:13:41,779 We were actually doing it 228 00:13:41,863 --> 00:13:43,573 and we couldn't believe it. 229 00:13:43,656 --> 00:13:45,867 We couldn't believe it, and thank God there was, 230 00:13:45,950 --> 00:13:47,535 there was such a thing as sex. 231 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,289 There was sex, but at the time, 232 00:13:51,372 --> 00:13:54,292 the only way to put hardcore sex on the screen legally, 233 00:13:54,375 --> 00:13:56,210 was in sex education films. 234 00:13:59,422 --> 00:14:01,507 My name is Dr. Morris Rosengarden. 235 00:14:01,799 --> 00:14:03,676 They would show sexual scenes, 236 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,595 but they couldn't be accused of pornography 237 00:14:05,678 --> 00:14:07,180 because it had an educational value. 238 00:14:15,938 --> 00:14:17,899 Some men find their wives' buttocks 239 00:14:17,982 --> 00:14:20,068 very stimulating visually. 240 00:14:20,777 --> 00:14:23,863 We needed a father figure for almost everything. 241 00:14:25,823 --> 00:14:27,367 This may be uncomfortable 242 00:14:27,450 --> 00:14:30,203 for the obese or older couples. 243 00:14:33,122 --> 00:14:36,334 Why did you need a doctor to tell you it was okay? 244 00:14:36,417 --> 00:14:37,835 And I said, 245 00:14:37,919 --> 00:14:40,546 "Hey, instead of discussing not doing it, 246 00:14:40,630 --> 00:14:42,548 let's do it and don't even discuss it." 247 00:14:43,466 --> 00:14:45,843 There's nothing to be ashamed of. 248 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,806 But there was plenty to be afraid of. 249 00:14:49,889 --> 00:14:53,393 In addition to running the risk of arrest and incarceration, 250 00:14:53,476 --> 00:14:55,478 the criminal underworld virtually controlled 251 00:14:55,561 --> 00:14:57,480 the production of pornography. 252 00:15:07,031 --> 00:15:09,075 There was something exciting about it. 253 00:15:09,158 --> 00:15:12,412 It, it lived in some, uh, mid-world 254 00:15:12,495 --> 00:15:13,913 between crime and art 255 00:15:14,831 --> 00:15:16,666 and it was adventurous. 256 00:15:22,839 --> 00:15:26,426 Young people today would be in it for the money 257 00:15:26,509 --> 00:15:29,637 whereas in the old days, it was for the rebellion. 258 00:15:32,515 --> 00:15:34,600 Frankly, everybody in one way or another 259 00:15:34,684 --> 00:15:36,269 was connected to that business 260 00:15:36,352 --> 00:15:39,230 because psychologically, socially, it was happening. 261 00:15:39,772 --> 00:15:42,942 You know, it was part of a social movement at the time. 262 00:15:43,025 --> 00:15:44,986 Anybody who took chances 263 00:15:45,069 --> 00:15:47,447 in breaking the social mores of the time, 264 00:15:47,530 --> 00:15:48,948 was considered a hero. 265 00:15:51,033 --> 00:15:52,326 I believed in it. 266 00:15:52,410 --> 00:15:55,037 I believed that it was about time to say 267 00:15:55,121 --> 00:15:56,789 that sex is a beautiful thing, 268 00:15:56,873 --> 00:15:58,499 the human body is a beautiful thing, 269 00:15:58,583 --> 00:16:00,293 and you really shouldn't be ashamed of it. 270 00:16:02,420 --> 00:16:04,547 Securing financial backing from partners 271 00:16:04,630 --> 00:16:05,923 with underworld connections, 272 00:16:06,007 --> 00:16:09,427 Damiano raised enough money to shoot a hardcore sex feature. 273 00:16:09,510 --> 00:16:12,555 It was going to be called The Doctor Makes a House Call. 274 00:16:12,638 --> 00:16:14,390 Then Damiano met his muse, 275 00:16:14,474 --> 00:16:17,226 Linda Lovelace, and everything changed. 276 00:16:23,441 --> 00:16:27,028 To me, I always looked at her as the girl next door. 277 00:16:34,118 --> 00:16:37,371 Before she became world-famous as Linda Lovelace, 278 00:16:37,455 --> 00:16:40,708 Linda Boreman dreamt of opening a clothing boutique 279 00:16:40,791 --> 00:16:43,211 until she met Chuck Traynor. 280 00:16:45,796 --> 00:16:48,508 I guess he was an escape for her. 281 00:16:48,633 --> 00:16:51,928 She was not comfortable living in her parents' home. 282 00:16:52,803 --> 00:16:54,597 And he took her away from that. 283 00:16:57,892 --> 00:17:00,561 But things started getting strange. 284 00:17:01,979 --> 00:17:04,732 Linda told me that she had quit smoking, 285 00:17:05,525 --> 00:17:08,653 and I said, "Well, how did you do it, how did you quit?" 286 00:17:08,736 --> 00:17:11,572 She said that Chuck had hypnotized her. 287 00:17:12,740 --> 00:17:15,284 She said every time she tried to have a cigarette, 288 00:17:15,368 --> 00:17:17,828 that she would hiccup. 289 00:17:17,912 --> 00:17:19,455 I'm like, "Oh, well, okay." 290 00:17:20,331 --> 00:17:22,792 Within a year, they were married. 291 00:17:24,794 --> 00:17:27,296 I curse the day that she ever met 292 00:17:27,755 --> 00:17:29,257 Chuck Traynor. 293 00:17:30,258 --> 00:17:33,427 Unfortunately, he died before I could kill him, 294 00:17:33,511 --> 00:17:34,720 so lucky for him. 295 00:17:40,142 --> 00:17:44,063 Then I lost contact and her mother told me that 296 00:17:44,146 --> 00:17:48,651 uh, they're living in New York and he's doing documentary films, 297 00:17:49,694 --> 00:17:52,280 and I thought, "How nice, how exciting." 298 00:18:03,541 --> 00:18:06,043 Chuck had come to my office 299 00:18:06,127 --> 00:18:08,129 and I needed a scene for another film. 300 00:18:08,212 --> 00:18:10,798 He says, "Well, Linda can do something." 301 00:18:10,881 --> 00:18:13,050 You know, she... There was no name for it. 302 00:18:13,134 --> 00:18:15,803 He says, "She gives head very well." 303 00:18:16,470 --> 00:18:17,888 I said, "Well, that's wonderful." 304 00:18:17,972 --> 00:18:20,474 So we set up with her and an actor 305 00:18:20,641 --> 00:18:22,935 to do a, a bit for another film. 306 00:18:24,979 --> 00:18:28,232 And when I saw what she could do, 307 00:18:28,316 --> 00:18:31,152 I says, "Stop the cameras." 308 00:18:44,957 --> 00:18:47,627 All I could think about was what she was doing 309 00:18:47,710 --> 00:18:48,836 was so unique 310 00:18:48,919 --> 00:18:51,297 that I could build a whole film around it. 311 00:18:55,301 --> 00:18:59,263 Making a motion picture specifically about that sexual act, 312 00:18:59,930 --> 00:19:02,350 I, I found very daring and very courageous. 313 00:19:04,060 --> 00:19:07,313 The first thing that came to my mind was, was the title 314 00:19:07,396 --> 00:19:09,315 of Deep, Deep Throat. 315 00:19:09,398 --> 00:19:12,777 Because something happened deep down in, in her throat. 316 00:19:15,655 --> 00:19:19,325 What? The clitoris is in her throat? 317 00:19:22,787 --> 00:19:24,372 Gerry, you can't do this. 318 00:19:25,956 --> 00:19:29,251 You can't do this. It's absurd, it's silly. 319 00:19:29,335 --> 00:19:31,253 Nobody will believe it. 320 00:19:31,962 --> 00:19:33,381 I thought it was, 321 00:19:37,176 --> 00:19:38,969 you know... 322 00:19:40,596 --> 00:19:43,099 Absurd. I did. 323 00:19:43,265 --> 00:19:46,310 Believe it or not, some people said, "What is this, a medical film? 324 00:19:46,394 --> 00:19:48,979 What are you gonna do? With doctors?" 325 00:19:49,438 --> 00:19:51,315 I said, "No. No." 326 00:19:51,482 --> 00:19:53,776 Somebody said it should be The Sword Swallower. 327 00:19:53,859 --> 00:19:57,029 I said, "No, no. Deep Throat, believe me, it'll work. It'll work." 328 00:19:57,822 --> 00:19:59,115 And, uh, 329 00:19:59,865 --> 00:20:03,744 I'm glad I didn't change it to The Sword Swallower. 330 00:20:06,747 --> 00:20:09,417 I, kind of, had the whole thing 331 00:20:09,500 --> 00:20:12,420 in my head driving over the 59th Street Bridge. 332 00:20:12,503 --> 00:20:14,839 That weekend, I wrote the script 333 00:20:14,922 --> 00:20:16,716 and we, we were ready to do it. 334 00:20:20,678 --> 00:20:23,180 And I spoke to my production manager, 335 00:20:23,264 --> 00:20:24,306 Ronnie Wertheim. 336 00:20:29,437 --> 00:20:32,690 The phone rang. It was Gerry. All excited. 337 00:20:33,149 --> 00:20:36,527 And I told him to bring all our cast and crew 338 00:20:36,610 --> 00:20:39,155 down to Florida. We're going to make the film. 339 00:20:40,656 --> 00:20:43,701 I just called, uh, Harry Reems. 340 00:20:43,868 --> 00:20:46,036 He came as a production assistant. 341 00:20:46,120 --> 00:20:48,247 He wasn't even supposed to be in the film. 342 00:20:53,294 --> 00:20:55,337 When we got to Florida, we all checked into 343 00:20:55,421 --> 00:20:58,424 this, uh, motel, I think it was called The Voyager. 344 00:20:58,507 --> 00:21:01,761 As we pulled in, we saw Linda Lovelace 345 00:21:04,013 --> 00:21:06,056 lying on the lawn with her... 346 00:21:06,140 --> 00:21:08,184 You know what her pussycat's name was? 347 00:21:08,893 --> 00:21:11,854 Adolf Hitler. He had a mustache like that. 348 00:21:18,903 --> 00:21:20,946 We came from New York 349 00:21:21,030 --> 00:21:23,908 with the promise of having locations. 350 00:21:27,578 --> 00:21:29,747 To me, it was nothing. 351 00:21:29,830 --> 00:21:33,334 I thought nothing of it. I thought it was just a, a piece of shit film. 352 00:21:33,834 --> 00:21:36,712 Probably one of the worst porno movies ever made. 353 00:21:37,546 --> 00:21:40,674 He's nuts. Lenny Camp was nuts. 354 00:21:40,758 --> 00:21:43,511 He was one of the guys that were lining up everything for us. 355 00:21:43,594 --> 00:21:45,596 And, uh, we got nothing. 356 00:21:48,098 --> 00:21:49,683 If it wasn't for us, 357 00:21:49,767 --> 00:21:51,685 this guy would look like a piece of shit, 358 00:21:51,769 --> 00:21:52,770 which he really is. 359 00:21:54,188 --> 00:21:57,233 The only thing that saved us, I said, "Wait a minute, 360 00:21:57,316 --> 00:22:00,361 we're at The Voyager Motel, let's go back and shoot 361 00:22:00,444 --> 00:22:02,780 what we were supposed to do here in the pool." 362 00:22:02,863 --> 00:22:04,949 From that moment on, everybody was location hunting. 363 00:22:05,157 --> 00:22:08,035 One of the locations that we shot at down in Florida, 364 00:22:08,118 --> 00:22:11,497 was at this, uh, home in Coconut Grove 365 00:22:12,248 --> 00:22:15,376 that was owned by a guy who called himself a count. 366 00:22:15,543 --> 00:22:17,795 He's not a count. He's a horseshit count. 367 00:22:17,878 --> 00:22:20,464 He is no count, he's fucking Sepy Dobronyi. 368 00:22:20,548 --> 00:22:23,217 And God knows if that's his real name. 369 00:22:31,433 --> 00:22:33,394 When we came, they had this elaborate, 370 00:22:33,477 --> 00:22:34,770 elaborate, elaborate wine cellar. 371 00:22:35,312 --> 00:22:37,064 Will we go to the wine cellar? 372 00:22:37,147 --> 00:22:38,315 Yes. 373 00:22:40,109 --> 00:22:44,488 ♪ Yeah, oh, yeah, Oh, yeah ♪ 374 00:22:46,532 --> 00:22:51,495 ♪ Yeah, oh, yeah, Oh, yeah ♪ 375 00:22:54,290 --> 00:22:56,083 ♪ Yeah, oh, yeah... ♪ 376 00:23:09,346 --> 00:23:12,474 If it was planned, it would not have been as exciting, 377 00:23:12,558 --> 00:23:15,603 'cause we were just rushing from one place to another. 378 00:23:16,770 --> 00:23:18,063 You all right? 379 00:23:18,147 --> 00:23:19,898 Yeah, I'm fine, what makes you say that? 380 00:23:19,982 --> 00:23:21,775 You, the way you're acting. 381 00:23:21,859 --> 00:23:23,902 In the very beginning, there were no 382 00:23:23,986 --> 00:23:26,113 porno actors and actresses. 383 00:23:26,196 --> 00:23:28,866 So everybody had to be taught. 384 00:23:29,408 --> 00:23:30,909 The actors are all shit. 385 00:23:31,368 --> 00:23:33,579 Not-- not taught in the sense of taught. 386 00:23:33,662 --> 00:23:34,997 Taught how to be natural. 387 00:23:35,706 --> 00:23:36,874 Sex, 388 00:23:37,374 --> 00:23:40,044 it makes me feel sort of tingly all over. 389 00:23:40,377 --> 00:23:41,420 And then... 390 00:23:41,503 --> 00:23:42,546 And then what? 391 00:23:42,630 --> 00:23:43,672 Nothing. 392 00:23:43,756 --> 00:23:46,300 I mean, there should be more to sex than a lot of little tingles. 393 00:23:46,467 --> 00:23:48,260 There should be bells ringing, 394 00:23:48,344 --> 00:23:50,971 dams bursting, bombs going off, something. 395 00:23:51,055 --> 00:23:53,432 Do you want to get off or do you want to wreck a city? 396 00:23:53,515 --> 00:23:55,267 Helen, please, be serious. 397 00:23:55,476 --> 00:23:57,186 Gerry knew nothing about it. 398 00:23:57,519 --> 00:24:01,607 He knew nothing about acting, he knew nothing about, um... 399 00:24:02,733 --> 00:24:04,777 He knew nothing. He knew nothing. 400 00:24:04,985 --> 00:24:07,321 But as a swinger himself, 401 00:24:07,404 --> 00:24:09,865 he had a feel for how to get people 402 00:24:09,948 --> 00:24:11,116 in a sexual mood. 403 00:24:11,992 --> 00:24:14,495 ♪ Do you wanna touch me? ♪ 404 00:24:14,578 --> 00:24:19,291 ♪ Do you wanna touch me? Do you wanna touch me? Yeah ♪ 405 00:24:19,375 --> 00:24:22,461 The really important thing was Harry Reems. 406 00:24:23,337 --> 00:24:25,756 I couldn't find anybody in Florida 407 00:24:25,839 --> 00:24:28,384 that could even come close to doing the role. 408 00:24:28,467 --> 00:24:31,470 So at one point, I fired him off the crew, 409 00:24:32,846 --> 00:24:35,474 and hired him as the lead, and thank God he was there, 410 00:24:35,557 --> 00:24:38,060 because I, I don't know of anybody 411 00:24:38,727 --> 00:24:41,230 that could have even come close to doing 412 00:24:41,313 --> 00:24:43,023 the job that he did, 413 00:24:43,524 --> 00:24:44,900 as the wacky doctor. 414 00:24:45,067 --> 00:24:46,610 I want to hear bells. 415 00:24:46,694 --> 00:24:47,820 Bells? 416 00:24:47,903 --> 00:24:49,113 -Bombs. -Bombs? 417 00:24:49,196 --> 00:24:50,698 And dams bursting. 418 00:24:50,781 --> 00:24:51,990 The rockets' red glare. 419 00:24:52,157 --> 00:24:55,327 No, he's not an actor, he knows that. 420 00:24:57,705 --> 00:24:59,289 Bombs bursting in air. 421 00:24:59,373 --> 00:25:02,835 ♪ Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there ♪ 422 00:25:03,335 --> 00:25:05,713 He, he would get an erection 423 00:25:06,755 --> 00:25:09,174 at the sound of the camera motor. 424 00:25:11,552 --> 00:25:12,594 That explains a lot. 425 00:25:15,055 --> 00:25:18,016 You know, I... I, uh, I never had a problem 426 00:25:18,642 --> 00:25:20,561 um, getting an erection. 427 00:25:21,145 --> 00:25:26,108 ♪ Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, Oh, yeah ♪ 428 00:25:26,608 --> 00:25:28,777 Linda had the hots for Harry Reems. 429 00:25:29,111 --> 00:25:31,572 And the morning we were gonna do 430 00:25:31,655 --> 00:25:33,949 the deep throat scene, 431 00:25:34,116 --> 00:25:36,160 she came to me and she was very upset, 432 00:25:36,910 --> 00:25:37,995 and she says, 433 00:25:38,078 --> 00:25:41,123 "Chuck is, is so jealous of Harry Reems 434 00:25:41,457 --> 00:25:43,792 that I don't think I can do a good job." 435 00:25:43,876 --> 00:25:45,919 Chuck was a member of our crew. 436 00:25:46,837 --> 00:25:48,672 Production manager sent him to... 437 00:25:48,756 --> 00:25:51,425 Uh, we said we're running out of film. 438 00:25:51,717 --> 00:25:53,761 So he went to Miami to buy film 439 00:25:53,844 --> 00:25:55,220 when we shot the scene, 440 00:25:55,345 --> 00:25:59,558 Linda was completely relaxed, and she did a marvelous job. 441 00:26:19,620 --> 00:26:24,166 Uh, when I saw her do that, yes, it is kind of amazing. 442 00:26:24,833 --> 00:26:27,002 Kind of amazing. It really is. 443 00:26:28,212 --> 00:26:30,547 Surprised? I was flabbergasted. 444 00:26:30,631 --> 00:26:31,673 I had no idea. 445 00:26:38,889 --> 00:26:41,391 This was the moment that heterosexual film 446 00:26:41,475 --> 00:26:43,852 became interested in blowjobs. 447 00:26:43,936 --> 00:26:46,355 I mean, it's not that fellatio didn't exist. 448 00:26:46,438 --> 00:26:49,483 Certainly, you see fellatio in stag films. 449 00:26:49,650 --> 00:26:53,904 Um, but you don't get this fellatio 450 00:26:53,987 --> 00:26:55,781 as figured as 451 00:26:55,864 --> 00:26:58,283 the be-all and end-all, 452 00:26:58,367 --> 00:27:00,118 as the absolute pleasure. 453 00:27:00,494 --> 00:27:02,329 The thing that you have to remember 454 00:27:02,412 --> 00:27:04,331 about fellatio is, 455 00:27:04,414 --> 00:27:07,292 historically, it had been considered illegal 456 00:27:07,376 --> 00:27:09,920 and referred to as the abominable, 457 00:27:10,003 --> 00:27:11,588 detestable crimes against nature. 458 00:27:12,172 --> 00:27:14,383 Deep throat was not a term 459 00:27:14,466 --> 00:27:17,886 that my girlfriends and I really knew anything about. 460 00:27:17,970 --> 00:27:21,098 Most of us had never even heard of oral sex or how to perform it. 461 00:27:21,181 --> 00:27:22,724 And people who wouldn't have dreamed 462 00:27:22,808 --> 00:27:25,018 of going near that sort of matter 463 00:27:25,102 --> 00:27:27,396 in the '40s and '50s, and certainly in the '30s, 464 00:27:27,479 --> 00:27:30,023 because that was dirty, that was low sex, that was dreadful, 465 00:27:30,107 --> 00:27:32,401 began to see it as an enrichment. 466 00:27:32,693 --> 00:27:35,070 And I'll just mention that ejaculate, 467 00:27:35,237 --> 00:27:37,656 I've always known, was good for the complexion. 468 00:27:37,739 --> 00:27:41,034 It's full of babies, it's, it's full of protein, 469 00:27:41,118 --> 00:27:43,537 it's full of, uh, plasma. 470 00:27:43,620 --> 00:27:46,623 And to rub it all over your face and neck and chest, 471 00:27:46,707 --> 00:27:48,750 a lot of women know that that's a good thing to do, 472 00:27:48,834 --> 00:27:50,794 not for him but for you. 473 00:27:53,964 --> 00:27:56,675 Gerry returned to New York to edit his film. 474 00:27:56,758 --> 00:27:58,802 But there was still one thing he needed. 475 00:27:58,886 --> 00:28:02,639 A mind-blowing cinematic female orgasm: 476 00:28:02,973 --> 00:28:05,350 proof of the success of Linda's quest 477 00:28:05,434 --> 00:28:07,185 for sexual satisfaction. 478 00:28:11,857 --> 00:28:14,526 People didn't understand that women 479 00:28:14,610 --> 00:28:17,070 could have as much... 480 00:28:18,322 --> 00:28:20,324 Feel as much pleasure as men did. 481 00:28:20,782 --> 00:28:22,951 Somehow, nobody ever acknowledged 482 00:28:23,035 --> 00:28:25,287 there was such a thing as an orgasm for a woman. 483 00:28:25,370 --> 00:28:26,663 That was all male stuff. 484 00:28:30,959 --> 00:28:33,170 It is harder to show female pleasure. 485 00:28:33,253 --> 00:28:35,213 It's harder to show female pleasure, 486 00:28:35,297 --> 00:28:38,300 and to believe that it's actually happening. 487 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,636 That's why I wanted to show it. 488 00:28:42,596 --> 00:28:45,015 I went to the film archives 489 00:28:45,098 --> 00:28:46,266 in, in Washington 490 00:28:46,350 --> 00:28:48,894 and got footage of a rocket 491 00:28:49,394 --> 00:28:52,439 and then did subliminal cutting with, with the rocket 492 00:28:52,522 --> 00:28:54,233 and Linda, back and forth. 493 00:28:57,444 --> 00:29:00,155 This is a male fantasy that says: 494 00:29:00,656 --> 00:29:02,574 "I like to have my cock sucked. 495 00:29:02,658 --> 00:29:06,662 I really get off on it, therefore she must, too." 496 00:29:12,459 --> 00:29:13,919 I think that was a hell of a shot. 497 00:29:18,298 --> 00:29:21,093 Look, men want to believe 498 00:29:21,176 --> 00:29:23,262 that the clitoris is in a woman's throat. 499 00:29:23,345 --> 00:29:26,181 Because if they believe that the clitoris is in a woman's throat, 500 00:29:26,265 --> 00:29:28,308 then they can believe that by thrusting 501 00:29:28,392 --> 00:29:30,310 their penis into a woman's mouth, 502 00:29:30,394 --> 00:29:32,938 she gets as much pleasure as they do. 503 00:29:33,021 --> 00:29:35,524 Guess what? It's not true. 504 00:29:36,984 --> 00:29:39,069 Uh, you know, I, I guess, uh... 505 00:29:40,153 --> 00:29:43,824 Deep Throat opened up a, uh, a can of worms. 506 00:29:47,035 --> 00:29:51,456 ♪ Get down, get down, Get down, get down ♪ 507 00:29:52,457 --> 00:29:54,543 When hardcore pornography is permitted 508 00:29:54,626 --> 00:29:56,169 to corrupt the minds of children, 509 00:29:56,253 --> 00:29:59,131 then the time has come for new moral leadership 510 00:29:59,214 --> 00:30:00,882 to make itself felt in America. 511 00:30:04,761 --> 00:30:07,180 Before Deep Throat was even shot, 512 00:30:07,264 --> 00:30:10,684 politics and pornography were on a collision course. 513 00:30:11,101 --> 00:30:15,105 In 1968, the government launched a scientific commission 514 00:30:15,188 --> 00:30:19,026 to determine if pornography really was harmful. 515 00:30:19,109 --> 00:30:20,694 ♪ Jungle Boogie ♪ 516 00:30:20,777 --> 00:30:23,613 ♪ Jungle Boogie Get it on ♪ 517 00:30:26,908 --> 00:30:28,201 ♪ Get it on ♪ 518 00:30:28,410 --> 00:30:31,288 Well, today, the final results were published. 519 00:30:31,371 --> 00:30:33,457 The presidential commission recommended doing away 520 00:30:33,540 --> 00:30:35,751 with most of the laws that cover pornography, 521 00:30:35,834 --> 00:30:38,211 because they don't seem to be doing much good, 522 00:30:38,295 --> 00:30:41,882 and because pornography doesn't seem to do much harm to the adult mind. 523 00:30:43,175 --> 00:30:46,345 For one brief, shining moment, it did look like 524 00:30:47,095 --> 00:30:48,722 society was going to become 525 00:30:48,805 --> 00:30:52,017 a little more adult about their sexuality. 526 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,604 But committee member Charles Keating, 527 00:30:55,687 --> 00:30:57,314 appointed by President Nixon, 528 00:30:57,397 --> 00:30:59,066 fought to dismiss the findings. 529 00:30:59,274 --> 00:31:01,985 Obscenity does indeed affect. 530 00:31:02,069 --> 00:31:05,155 The effect it has is detrimental to society. 531 00:31:05,489 --> 00:31:09,117 Charles Keating was a notorious censorship bug. 532 00:31:09,201 --> 00:31:11,953 Later on, of course, we discovered he was a good deal more. 533 00:31:12,037 --> 00:31:15,457 He was a swindler and went to prison. 534 00:31:15,540 --> 00:31:18,752 The president said today, "So long as I am in the White House, 535 00:31:18,835 --> 00:31:21,004 there will be no relaxation of the national effort 536 00:31:21,088 --> 00:31:23,340 to control and eliminate smut." 537 00:31:23,507 --> 00:31:25,425 Then Nixon persuaded the Senate 538 00:31:25,509 --> 00:31:28,720 to reject the report, suppressing its findings. 539 00:31:29,388 --> 00:31:30,680 Everybody forgot about 540 00:31:30,764 --> 00:31:33,683 the President's commission on pornography, 541 00:31:33,767 --> 00:31:35,477 because they, they didn't come out 542 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,229 with the answer they were looking for. 543 00:31:37,854 --> 00:31:41,191 Instead, Nixon got reelected, 544 00:31:41,274 --> 00:31:43,902 after being declared politically dead, 545 00:31:43,985 --> 00:31:46,488 and the forces of repression came in, 546 00:31:46,571 --> 00:31:49,658 in a huge, huge way. 547 00:31:50,784 --> 00:31:53,370 He knew all the buttons to press. 548 00:31:53,662 --> 00:31:54,621 Sodomy... 549 00:31:58,208 --> 00:32:01,420 I mean, everybody starts to vibrate like a gong. 550 00:32:05,590 --> 00:32:09,469 We lie about human sexuality, because we're taught to lie about everything. 551 00:32:10,303 --> 00:32:12,556 When you have a nation that totally lies, 552 00:32:13,432 --> 00:32:14,766 then you have no reality. 553 00:32:18,687 --> 00:32:20,063 The message was clear: 554 00:32:20,147 --> 00:32:21,940 Cleaning up porn was good politics. 555 00:32:22,023 --> 00:32:24,818 And what better place to start than Times Square, 556 00:32:24,901 --> 00:32:26,862 the nation's capital of sleaze 557 00:32:26,987 --> 00:32:28,989 and the site of Deep Throat's premiere 558 00:32:29,072 --> 00:32:31,700 in June 1972. 559 00:32:40,333 --> 00:32:42,419 A good many of the so-called perverts 560 00:32:42,502 --> 00:32:43,962 are attracted to the 42nd Street area, 561 00:32:44,045 --> 00:32:45,172 and we've had complaints. 562 00:32:46,715 --> 00:32:48,467 ♪ Superfly ♪ 563 00:32:53,638 --> 00:32:56,892 Suddenly, I see a movie that knocks my socks off. 564 00:32:56,975 --> 00:32:58,393 And here's the wonderful thing: 565 00:32:58,477 --> 00:33:01,313 This film, Deep Throat, is funny. 566 00:33:01,897 --> 00:33:05,609 And Linda's a wonderful, wonderful cocksucker. 567 00:33:06,276 --> 00:33:08,695 God, I wish my wives could suck dick like that. 568 00:33:09,738 --> 00:33:12,032 And I give it 100 points on the Peter-Meter. 569 00:33:12,115 --> 00:33:14,826 "Peter" means how many hard-ons do I get. 570 00:33:14,951 --> 00:33:18,788 Now it would take 5,000 Viagra to get me hard, 571 00:33:18,872 --> 00:33:22,626 but then I'm virile and young and I get many hard-ons. 572 00:33:23,168 --> 00:33:26,630 New Yorkers greet it with the same enthusiasm as I did. 573 00:33:27,255 --> 00:33:28,632 It was a joy. 574 00:33:28,715 --> 00:33:31,468 As we say in Israel, it was a mitzvah. 575 00:33:33,637 --> 00:33:36,223 I have the privilege of announcing 576 00:33:36,306 --> 00:33:39,434 the formation of the Times Square Development Council. 577 00:33:40,477 --> 00:33:42,437 Deep Throat was the perfect target 578 00:33:42,521 --> 00:33:45,065 for New York's campaign to clean up porn 579 00:33:45,148 --> 00:33:47,108 and the police moved in. 580 00:33:53,031 --> 00:33:55,075 I first became aware of Deep Throat 581 00:33:55,158 --> 00:33:57,577 when it was, uh, it was advertised in the papers. 582 00:33:59,412 --> 00:34:01,998 It was the talk of the office, you know, "Look at this." 583 00:34:04,918 --> 00:34:06,670 Being in the industry, so to speak, 584 00:34:06,753 --> 00:34:08,213 we all ran out to see it. 585 00:34:09,631 --> 00:34:10,757 It was stunning. 586 00:34:12,717 --> 00:34:16,221 The cinematography, for a porno movie, was very good. 587 00:34:16,304 --> 00:34:17,347 The movie was funny. 588 00:34:17,430 --> 00:34:20,392 It had the kind of lines in it, uh, that were amusing. 589 00:34:21,101 --> 00:34:24,271 Mind if I smoke while you're eating? 590 00:34:24,354 --> 00:34:25,939 No, not at all. 591 00:34:30,735 --> 00:34:32,112 It was definitely a change of pace, 592 00:34:32,195 --> 00:34:33,738 definitely a change of pace. 593 00:34:36,032 --> 00:34:38,952 We knew that this was, uh, this was something different. 594 00:34:39,035 --> 00:34:43,790 ♪ Love, love is strange ♪ 595 00:34:45,375 --> 00:34:47,294 I think they picked on Deep Throat 596 00:34:47,377 --> 00:34:50,130 because it was the highest profile. 597 00:34:50,213 --> 00:34:53,174 If they could, uh, successfully prosecute Deep Throat, 598 00:34:53,258 --> 00:34:55,135 uh, then they felt that 599 00:34:55,218 --> 00:34:56,928 the other prosecutions would be easier. 600 00:35:00,557 --> 00:35:03,476 Not once, not twice, but three times 601 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,228 the police raided Deep Throat, 602 00:35:05,312 --> 00:35:08,106 staging their final raid for the cameras. 603 00:35:11,359 --> 00:35:12,944 This was political. 604 00:35:13,028 --> 00:35:16,156 If nobody records the arrest, 605 00:35:16,698 --> 00:35:18,033 then nobody will know 606 00:35:18,116 --> 00:35:21,578 that they are doing their job in fighting sin. 607 00:35:21,911 --> 00:35:25,248 Do you, you consider what you're running pornographic, sir? 608 00:35:25,457 --> 00:35:26,916 If it was pornographic, 609 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,628 they could prosecute in a diligent, proper manner. 610 00:35:29,711 --> 00:35:32,756 They wouldn't have to come around in hoards of 50 611 00:35:33,048 --> 00:35:35,091 and take signs out of windows 612 00:35:35,425 --> 00:35:37,385 and act like the Gestapo of old. 613 00:35:38,762 --> 00:35:43,725 This theater that had not done $5,000 a week in 20 years, 614 00:35:45,018 --> 00:35:48,605 was running virtually 20 hours a day. 615 00:35:49,314 --> 00:35:50,774 It never stopped running. 616 00:35:51,191 --> 00:35:53,193 The owners really couldn't afford to shut it down. 617 00:35:53,276 --> 00:35:54,653 They didn't want to shut it down. 618 00:35:54,736 --> 00:35:57,989 And so, uh, there, there was going to be a trial. 619 00:36:05,288 --> 00:36:07,999 Deep Throat's defense produced expert witnesses 620 00:36:08,083 --> 00:36:12,045 to argue that the film was more enlightening than merely obscene. 621 00:36:24,683 --> 00:36:26,768 But the prosecution countered 622 00:36:26,851 --> 00:36:30,021 that this sexual satisfaction was dangerous to women 623 00:36:30,105 --> 00:36:33,692 because Deep Throat emphasized the wrong kind of orgasm: 624 00:36:34,192 --> 00:36:35,985 the clitoral orgasm. 625 00:36:36,986 --> 00:36:39,572 I remember that the judge hadn't heard the term. 626 00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:42,575 And, uh, so he expressed surprise 627 00:36:42,659 --> 00:36:43,868 and asked the question, "What's that?" 628 00:36:46,830 --> 00:36:50,917 Here, just outside and above the vaginal opening 629 00:36:51,584 --> 00:36:53,920 is the clitoris. 630 00:37:09,978 --> 00:37:12,355 The clitoris. 631 00:37:12,439 --> 00:37:14,858 He should have been sitting in my classes 632 00:37:14,941 --> 00:37:18,111 because he would have heard me say loud and clear 633 00:37:18,278 --> 00:37:20,989 that let's get away from that idea, 634 00:37:21,072 --> 00:37:22,866 which still some people have, 635 00:37:22,949 --> 00:37:25,910 that, uh, a vaginal orgasm 636 00:37:25,994 --> 00:37:28,872 is, um, more satisfying for a woman 637 00:37:28,955 --> 00:37:31,124 than a clitoral orgasm. No such thing. 638 00:37:32,167 --> 00:37:35,336 At that time, a real orgasm could only happen 639 00:37:35,420 --> 00:37:36,755 if you were with a man 640 00:37:36,838 --> 00:37:39,174 and his penis was inside of you 641 00:37:39,257 --> 00:37:42,927 and that was total, utter nonsense, of course. 642 00:37:45,513 --> 00:37:48,057 Sex is not only for penises. 643 00:37:48,141 --> 00:37:51,102 Uh, sex is something for women. 644 00:37:51,186 --> 00:37:52,896 The clitoris. 645 00:37:52,979 --> 00:37:54,689 This tiny organ, 646 00:37:54,773 --> 00:37:57,400 about the size and shape of a garden pea, 647 00:37:57,901 --> 00:38:00,695 is the seat of sexuality in women. 648 00:38:01,863 --> 00:38:05,241 I think the judge learned a lot during the trial 649 00:38:05,658 --> 00:38:08,620 as I... Look, I, I certainly did myself. 650 00:38:11,289 --> 00:38:13,458 As the judge retired to consider his verdict, 651 00:38:13,541 --> 00:38:15,418 ticket sales almost doubled, 652 00:38:15,502 --> 00:38:19,047 prompting a young reporter from The New York Times to write an article 653 00:38:19,130 --> 00:38:22,217 that would give the film mainstream legitimacy. 654 00:38:22,717 --> 00:38:24,761 I remember writing the article. 655 00:38:24,844 --> 00:38:26,971 Uh, the--the headline was "Porno chic." 656 00:38:27,055 --> 00:38:28,723 I wrote it on a typewriter. 657 00:38:31,226 --> 00:38:33,436 People look at the Times as a validator. 658 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,356 And they see, if, if the Times can write about Deep Throat, 659 00:38:36,439 --> 00:38:37,941 well, then it must be safe in some way. 660 00:38:40,944 --> 00:38:42,946 The week the article hit the stands, 661 00:38:43,029 --> 00:38:44,989 the film's box office soared 662 00:38:45,073 --> 00:38:48,535 as people rushed to see the film in record numbers. 663 00:38:51,204 --> 00:38:54,415 Approximately how many people have seen Deep Throat? 664 00:38:54,499 --> 00:38:57,085 Approximately 1,700 people a day have been in to see the film. 665 00:38:59,546 --> 00:39:01,506 Are you looking forward to this movie? 666 00:39:01,589 --> 00:39:02,674 Yes, I am. 667 00:39:02,757 --> 00:39:05,844 People from Central Park West and Fifth Avenue and Park Avenue 668 00:39:05,927 --> 00:39:07,971 wanted to go down and see it and go slumming. 669 00:39:09,472 --> 00:39:12,934 There was a private showing. Before I knew what happened, 670 00:39:13,017 --> 00:39:14,894 there was, like, group sex happening, left, right, and center. 671 00:39:21,651 --> 00:39:24,320 Since this is supposed to be it of its genre, 672 00:39:24,404 --> 00:39:27,115 and since it's had this piece in the New York Times, 673 00:39:27,198 --> 00:39:29,033 I might as well see it if it's going. 674 00:39:31,077 --> 00:39:32,829 What are you expecting to see? 675 00:39:32,912 --> 00:39:34,038 Well, uh, 676 00:39:34,122 --> 00:39:37,125 you might close me down if I said what I was going to say. 677 00:39:38,710 --> 00:39:42,672 It took porn out of the realm of the forbidden. 678 00:39:42,755 --> 00:39:44,674 Why, there's nothing wrong with a normal man 679 00:39:44,757 --> 00:39:46,509 going to a pornographic movie. 680 00:39:46,593 --> 00:39:48,678 Normal, all right, but why were you there? 681 00:39:48,928 --> 00:39:50,513 You would see movie stars there. 682 00:39:50,597 --> 00:39:52,223 You would see society people there. 683 00:39:54,767 --> 00:39:57,687 I went to see Deep Throat because I'm fond of animal pictures. 684 00:40:00,189 --> 00:40:01,608 I thought it was about giraffes. 685 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,114 90% of the people there are asthmatics. 686 00:40:08,197 --> 00:40:09,574 What do you mean, asthmatics? 687 00:40:09,657 --> 00:40:10,867 'Cause all I could hear was... 688 00:40:13,036 --> 00:40:14,495 People weren't jerking off 689 00:40:15,288 --> 00:40:18,541 when, you know... I don't know who's sitting next to you, Angela Lansbury or... 690 00:40:18,625 --> 00:40:20,627 I'm just picking her out, but, but basically, 691 00:40:20,710 --> 00:40:22,378 because she'd just put a damper on things. 692 00:40:22,587 --> 00:40:24,714 What did you say the name of that movie was? 693 00:40:24,797 --> 00:40:26,132 Uh, Deep Threat. 694 00:40:26,215 --> 00:40:28,468 You'd better hurry up before you miss the opening 695 00:40:28,551 --> 00:40:30,261 'cause you don't wanna miss the opening. 696 00:40:30,345 --> 00:40:31,930 In the opening, Linda... 697 00:40:37,393 --> 00:40:39,103 Deep Throat was so successful 698 00:40:39,187 --> 00:40:41,314 that it turned Linda Lovelace from an unknown 699 00:40:41,397 --> 00:40:44,984 into a celebrity and poster-child for the new porn chic. 700 00:40:49,030 --> 00:40:51,449 I made $1,200 for Deep Throat. 701 00:40:51,991 --> 00:40:53,076 And that's all? 702 00:40:53,159 --> 00:40:54,535 Yeah. 703 00:40:54,619 --> 00:40:55,662 What about... 704 00:40:55,745 --> 00:40:59,374 I'm, you know, now I'm known, so it's okay. 705 00:41:03,127 --> 00:41:05,046 It was about 11:00 at night 706 00:41:05,129 --> 00:41:06,756 and we were watching television. 707 00:41:08,341 --> 00:41:11,844 And we saw this theater and it said, 708 00:41:12,553 --> 00:41:15,807 you know, "Linda Lovelace, Deep Throat," or whatever it was. 709 00:41:16,140 --> 00:41:19,686 And, uh, I said, "Oh, disgusting. 710 00:41:20,687 --> 00:41:21,688 Absolutely disgusting." 711 00:41:22,814 --> 00:41:24,524 A girlfriend of mine called and said, 712 00:41:24,607 --> 00:41:26,234 "Pick up Playboy Magazine. 713 00:41:26,693 --> 00:41:29,654 If that's not Linda, I'll eat the magazine." 714 00:41:30,113 --> 00:41:32,573 So I stopped, I picked it up, 715 00:41:32,657 --> 00:41:33,992 'cause it wasn't allowed in my house. 716 00:41:38,705 --> 00:41:40,999 And I opened it up and I read it 717 00:41:41,082 --> 00:41:42,792 and I said, "Oh, my God." 718 00:41:48,006 --> 00:41:50,383 And I knew then, it was-- It was our Linda. 719 00:41:56,723 --> 00:41:59,600 That was difficult for me, to see the movie. 720 00:42:03,855 --> 00:42:07,150 When we got home, I threw myself across the bed and started bawling. 721 00:42:07,233 --> 00:42:09,110 I was crying like, I'd, um, 722 00:42:09,193 --> 00:42:11,821 like I just found out someone I loved had died. 723 00:42:16,075 --> 00:42:17,076 And, uh, 724 00:42:18,244 --> 00:42:20,079 and it wasn't, um... 725 00:42:22,331 --> 00:42:24,208 It wasn't just, uh, you know, 726 00:42:24,292 --> 00:42:28,087 a sleazy little film on a-- On a small screen 727 00:42:28,171 --> 00:42:30,798 with a bunch of guys in trench coats there. 728 00:42:30,882 --> 00:42:34,927 I mean, there were... Society was there. 729 00:42:37,263 --> 00:42:40,600 I didn't know how Linda was going to be able to deal with that. 730 00:42:43,186 --> 00:42:47,106 The next time I spoke to her, she said, "I'm sorry, 731 00:42:47,607 --> 00:42:49,776 I didn't want you to know, 732 00:42:49,901 --> 00:42:52,111 'cause I knew you'd be upset or you'd be angry." 733 00:42:52,195 --> 00:42:55,823 I said, "I'm not angry, 'cause I don't know who Linda Lovelace is. 734 00:42:55,907 --> 00:42:57,241 I only know who you are." 735 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,044 The pornographic film Deep Throat 736 00:43:08,127 --> 00:43:09,837 has become one of the most popular 737 00:43:09,921 --> 00:43:12,256 and profitable blue movies of all time. 738 00:43:12,340 --> 00:43:15,635 Today, a Manhattan criminal court judge ruled the film obscene, 739 00:43:15,718 --> 00:43:17,804 and ordered it removed from theaters in New York City. 740 00:43:25,269 --> 00:43:28,815 A Sodom and Gomorrah gone wild before the fire. 741 00:43:29,315 --> 00:43:32,443 He believed he was writing for posterity. 742 00:43:33,653 --> 00:43:36,072 Now you and I know, in retrospect, 743 00:43:36,447 --> 00:43:38,741 that he accomplished absolutely nothing. 744 00:43:44,747 --> 00:43:46,874 I readily perform the operation 745 00:43:46,958 --> 00:43:49,794 by finding the defendant guilty as charged. 746 00:43:53,923 --> 00:43:57,552 I still think what the World Theatre did on its marquee 747 00:43:58,344 --> 00:44:00,221 was better than what he wrote in his opinion. 748 00:44:00,805 --> 00:44:03,015 "Throat cut, world mourns." 749 00:44:03,850 --> 00:44:05,768 It's a picture that'll never die. 750 00:44:07,436 --> 00:44:10,606 I mean, we'll all die, but Deep Throat won't die. 751 00:44:14,026 --> 00:44:16,154 Shutting Deep Throat down in New York 752 00:44:16,237 --> 00:44:19,115 only spurred audiences' interest across the country. 753 00:44:19,323 --> 00:44:22,827 Wherever it opened, authorities scrambled to shut it down. 754 00:44:22,910 --> 00:44:26,038 This trash that's being shown on our movie screens 755 00:44:26,122 --> 00:44:27,248 across the country. 756 00:44:27,331 --> 00:44:30,251 There isn't any question in my mind that it's obscene. 757 00:44:33,129 --> 00:44:35,506 By the mid '70s, Deep Throat had been tried 758 00:44:35,590 --> 00:44:37,091 in more than 32 cities... 759 00:44:39,010 --> 00:44:41,971 and was ultimately banned in 23 states. 760 00:44:42,054 --> 00:44:44,432 Violation of the law. It's a simple thing. 761 00:44:46,893 --> 00:44:48,269 It's obscene as hell to me. 762 00:44:54,817 --> 00:44:55,818 Mmm. 763 00:44:57,486 --> 00:44:59,822 Ordered to stop the spread of Deep Throat, 764 00:44:59,906 --> 00:45:01,657 the FBI stepped in. 765 00:45:01,824 --> 00:45:04,744 They began with the arrest of Gerry Damiano. 766 00:45:06,621 --> 00:45:08,915 The first question the prosecutor asked me: 767 00:45:08,998 --> 00:45:10,416 Did I know what-- 768 00:45:10,499 --> 00:45:12,919 What affiliation my partners had? 769 00:45:15,338 --> 00:45:18,215 And I said as far as I know, he's a Roman Catholic. 770 00:45:22,887 --> 00:45:25,056 All of a sudden, I'm, I'm part of the mob. 771 00:45:27,433 --> 00:45:29,977 No. I was-- I was never a mob. 772 00:45:31,312 --> 00:45:33,230 There were originally three partners 773 00:45:33,314 --> 00:45:35,024 who made the movie. 774 00:45:36,150 --> 00:45:39,403 His two partners came to him, Damiano told me, 775 00:45:39,487 --> 00:45:41,322 and told him they were buying him out. 776 00:45:41,405 --> 00:45:45,409 And I said to him, that didn't sound like a very good, uh, deal, 777 00:45:45,493 --> 00:45:47,578 uh, when you're a one-third partner of a project 778 00:45:47,662 --> 00:45:50,498 that is just, you know, bringing in bucket-loads of money 779 00:45:50,581 --> 00:45:52,333 and you're suddenly cut out of the deal. 780 00:45:52,416 --> 00:45:53,751 Uh, why didn't he object? 781 00:45:53,834 --> 00:45:56,420 And he rolled his eyes and he wouldn't say anymore. 782 00:45:56,504 --> 00:45:59,131 And the-- The only thing he told me was he didn't want his legs broken. 783 00:46:00,508 --> 00:46:03,511 No, it was easier for me to, to say: 784 00:46:05,262 --> 00:46:08,432 "I, I don't, I don't want to have anything to do with it." 785 00:46:08,516 --> 00:46:10,935 It was easier. It was a lot easier. 786 00:46:12,311 --> 00:46:15,106 It was, kind of a-- It was, kind of a-- 787 00:46:15,189 --> 00:46:17,149 A thing I could not have won. 788 00:46:21,737 --> 00:46:24,573 That's about as far as I could go with it. 789 00:46:26,993 --> 00:46:28,536 Damiano wasn't alone. 790 00:46:28,619 --> 00:46:31,163 Across the country, theater owners discovered 791 00:46:31,247 --> 00:46:32,915 exhibiting Deep Throat also meant 792 00:46:32,999 --> 00:46:34,709 running with the mob. 793 00:46:37,503 --> 00:46:40,172 One day, I pick up The New York Times, 794 00:46:40,965 --> 00:46:43,926 and in it, it says it is very chic 795 00:46:44,927 --> 00:46:46,429 to see Deep Throat. 796 00:46:47,138 --> 00:46:48,681 So that gave me an idea 797 00:46:49,306 --> 00:46:52,560 to see if I can get the picture for Florida. 798 00:46:53,436 --> 00:46:55,312 Luckily, I knew one of the men 799 00:46:55,396 --> 00:46:57,606 that was connected with the picture. 800 00:46:57,690 --> 00:47:00,151 And I didn't think it could run in Florida. 801 00:47:00,359 --> 00:47:04,030 And so, I was given the picture for a very reasonable amount. 802 00:47:04,697 --> 00:47:09,035 I never would have dreamt of opening that picture anywheres 803 00:47:09,368 --> 00:47:11,579 if it wasn't for that article. 804 00:47:11,662 --> 00:47:14,123 If we don't get sued, it will be a miracle. 805 00:47:14,206 --> 00:47:16,125 Terry, please, Terry. It's almost over. 806 00:47:16,208 --> 00:47:17,668 I think it's enough. Cut. Finished. 807 00:47:17,752 --> 00:47:19,003 -It's enough. -It's almost over. 808 00:47:19,086 --> 00:47:20,254 It's almost over. 809 00:47:20,337 --> 00:47:21,922 I, I think it's enough already. 810 00:47:22,006 --> 00:47:24,633 You don't realize how people pick up on things. 811 00:47:24,717 --> 00:47:26,302 What are they picking up on, Terry? 812 00:47:26,385 --> 00:47:28,304 They're picking up on things in Miami Beach. 813 00:47:28,387 --> 00:47:30,514 You, you just said they do bad things. 814 00:47:30,598 --> 00:47:32,099 They could call you up on this. 815 00:47:32,183 --> 00:47:33,851 Come on, Artie, don't be stupid. 816 00:47:33,934 --> 00:47:35,311 You're a grown man. 817 00:47:35,394 --> 00:47:36,479 Cut. 818 00:47:36,562 --> 00:47:37,772 Terry... 819 00:47:39,857 --> 00:47:43,152 ♪ Making a living The old, hard way ♪ 820 00:47:43,235 --> 00:47:46,739 ♪ Taking and giving My day by day ♪ 821 00:47:47,406 --> 00:47:52,244 ♪ I dig the snow and rain And bright sunshine ♪ 822 00:47:53,537 --> 00:47:55,331 My name is Bill Kelly. 823 00:47:55,414 --> 00:47:56,916 ♪ Draggin' the line ♪ 824 00:47:56,999 --> 00:48:01,170 The reason there were so many more obscenity cases 825 00:48:01,253 --> 00:48:02,963 after 1972 826 00:48:03,172 --> 00:48:06,092 was because I went out and looked for 'em. 827 00:48:06,717 --> 00:48:09,095 I knew it was a gamble 828 00:48:09,929 --> 00:48:13,682 because of New York having problems with the city, 829 00:48:13,766 --> 00:48:15,017 that it was on trial. 830 00:48:16,060 --> 00:48:18,521 I opened the picture and the next thing I knew 831 00:48:18,604 --> 00:48:20,106 we had lines around the corner. 832 00:48:20,272 --> 00:48:21,524 There must have been, 833 00:48:21,607 --> 00:48:25,027 I'm guessing 100 or 150 people in line when they opened. 834 00:48:25,319 --> 00:48:29,240 Every fucking FBI agent in the country was sitting in the audience. 835 00:48:29,490 --> 00:48:31,909 Kelly was there and everything else. 836 00:48:32,910 --> 00:48:34,703 You walked into the theater. 837 00:48:34,787 --> 00:48:36,622 There's just a, sort of a bent-nosed, 838 00:48:36,705 --> 00:48:39,375 middle-aged guy with a very rough voice. 839 00:48:39,458 --> 00:48:40,751 He says, "$5." 840 00:48:41,627 --> 00:48:43,921 So I gave him $5 and said: "Where is the ticket?" 841 00:48:44,004 --> 00:48:45,589 He said, "No tickets, just go on in." 842 00:48:45,881 --> 00:48:47,633 The movie started 843 00:48:47,925 --> 00:48:51,387 and about 50 of them got up and said: 844 00:48:51,470 --> 00:48:53,848 "It's a sex picture, get me out! Get me out! 845 00:48:53,931 --> 00:48:55,766 It's a sex picture, I can't stand it." 846 00:48:56,142 --> 00:48:58,185 Not only was it a violation 847 00:48:58,269 --> 00:49:00,396 of the obscenity law of the United States, 848 00:49:00,479 --> 00:49:03,566 it was also a highly organized crime enterprise. 849 00:49:06,152 --> 00:49:07,486 I didn't know 850 00:49:07,570 --> 00:49:10,197 who the Peraino gang was at that time. 851 00:49:10,281 --> 00:49:12,783 But I soon found out when I started investigating 852 00:49:12,867 --> 00:49:15,703 that they were heavyweights out of New York. 853 00:49:15,786 --> 00:49:18,330 They were part of the Colombo family operation 854 00:49:18,414 --> 00:49:21,125 who had moved to Fort Lauderdale area. 855 00:49:23,169 --> 00:49:26,797 I haven't seen them since I... I left. 856 00:49:31,635 --> 00:49:34,930 And I wanna make sure I don't get a phone call 857 00:49:35,014 --> 00:49:37,766 or get a knock on the door that they want to talk to me. 858 00:49:37,850 --> 00:49:40,853 Because I've been away from them for 30 years. 859 00:49:41,645 --> 00:49:44,106 And I, I'd like it to be that way. 860 00:49:44,190 --> 00:49:47,109 This is-- This is shit as far as I'm concerned. 861 00:49:47,193 --> 00:49:48,652 Excuse my language but I can't stand it. 862 00:49:49,987 --> 00:49:52,865 He can tell you things, your hair would stand up on your heads. 863 00:49:52,948 --> 00:49:55,201 I didn't mention any of those things, Terry. 864 00:49:55,284 --> 00:49:56,911 -What? -I didn't mention any of them. 865 00:49:56,994 --> 00:49:58,245 I don't-- I don't want you to. 866 00:49:58,329 --> 00:49:59,496 I didn't. 867 00:49:59,580 --> 00:50:01,457 We haven't heard in 32 years. 868 00:50:01,540 --> 00:50:02,875 Thank God. 869 00:50:02,958 --> 00:50:04,001 So, how do you know? 870 00:50:04,084 --> 00:50:06,420 I don't know if they're living. 871 00:50:07,504 --> 00:50:09,548 They could be dead, Terry. 872 00:50:13,469 --> 00:50:15,262 In its second year of release, 873 00:50:15,346 --> 00:50:17,890 Deep Throat was still number 11 on the charts. 874 00:50:18,182 --> 00:50:19,683 It's a dirty movie. 875 00:50:20,017 --> 00:50:23,771 Look, try to look at it as a satire of contemporary sexual mores 876 00:50:23,854 --> 00:50:25,814 with lots of redeeming social values. 877 00:50:28,108 --> 00:50:29,985 Porn chic was all the rage. 878 00:50:30,069 --> 00:50:32,655 Films like Damiano's The Devil in Miss Jones 879 00:50:32,738 --> 00:50:34,198 and Behind the Green Door 880 00:50:34,281 --> 00:50:38,118 followed on the heels of Deep Throat's unprecedented success, 881 00:50:38,369 --> 00:50:41,538 giving Hollywood films a run for their money. 882 00:50:41,622 --> 00:50:45,000 The studios were in shambles in the early '70s. 883 00:50:45,084 --> 00:50:47,419 There's this movie out there, everyone's going to see it. 884 00:50:47,503 --> 00:50:50,381 How does that affect you and the pictures you should be making? 885 00:50:51,090 --> 00:50:53,634 I've been the first one to go down the path. 886 00:50:53,717 --> 00:50:56,011 I'd like to see, uh, legitimate films 887 00:50:56,095 --> 00:50:59,890 and so-called pornographic films merge together. 888 00:50:59,974 --> 00:51:02,393 I think the two industries have got to merge together. 889 00:51:02,810 --> 00:51:04,311 Thank you for making me 890 00:51:04,395 --> 00:51:06,689 Thank you for making me 891 00:51:08,190 --> 00:51:11,318 They were shooting porn films on the lot at Paramount. 892 00:51:11,402 --> 00:51:12,736 This is a little known fact. 893 00:51:12,945 --> 00:51:16,573 So Paramount became sort of confiscated by the porn industry. 894 00:51:16,657 --> 00:51:18,534 Do you see yourself as a pioneer? 895 00:51:18,617 --> 00:51:19,660 No. 896 00:51:19,743 --> 00:51:21,704 If it's left alone, within a year, 897 00:51:21,787 --> 00:51:23,789 sex will just blend itself into film. 898 00:51:23,872 --> 00:51:25,124 It's inevitable. 899 00:51:25,207 --> 00:51:28,502 The only thing that's uncertain is, is the time it will take. 900 00:51:29,295 --> 00:51:32,131 But the merger of hardcore and movies never happened. 901 00:51:32,214 --> 00:51:35,884 Instead, the Supreme Court, packed with four Nixon appointees, 902 00:51:35,968 --> 00:51:38,429 made a radical change to the obscenity law 903 00:51:38,512 --> 00:51:40,723 in June 1973. 904 00:51:43,183 --> 00:51:46,061 Yesterday, the Supreme Court authorized wider restrictions 905 00:51:46,145 --> 00:51:48,314 on the exhibition and sale of obscenity. 906 00:51:49,648 --> 00:51:51,692 The recent Supreme Court decision 907 00:51:51,775 --> 00:51:55,321 gave local officials the right to decide for themselves what is pornographic 908 00:51:55,404 --> 00:51:58,782 without having to be guided by a national standard. 909 00:52:02,328 --> 00:52:03,871 Here in New York City today, 910 00:52:03,954 --> 00:52:06,790 vice squad police began cracking down on pornography. 911 00:52:12,671 --> 00:52:15,049 Linda, as you may know, the Supreme Court recently, 912 00:52:15,132 --> 00:52:18,260 uh, handed down a, uh, decision on pornography. 913 00:52:19,094 --> 00:52:21,930 I don't think anybody should regulate anything. 914 00:52:22,014 --> 00:52:23,098 I think it should be, uh, 915 00:52:23,182 --> 00:52:24,141 I don't believe in censorship. 916 00:52:24,224 --> 00:52:25,809 I don't believe in anything that they are doing. 917 00:52:26,185 --> 00:52:28,145 But how far can you extend individual rights 918 00:52:28,228 --> 00:52:30,939 before you hit, uh, the state of anarchy? 919 00:52:31,523 --> 00:52:33,317 Uh, I really... I don't know. 920 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:34,902 Have you ever thought about that? 921 00:52:34,985 --> 00:52:37,613 No. I don't know what's the state of ana... anarchy. 922 00:52:37,696 --> 00:52:40,949 Well, it's... That's when everyone does precisely what he pleases 923 00:52:41,033 --> 00:52:43,285 and, uh, society has no rules. 924 00:52:43,369 --> 00:52:45,579 At that point, you've reached anarchy. 925 00:52:46,246 --> 00:52:48,290 Uh, I don't know about that, to be honest with you. 926 00:52:48,374 --> 00:52:49,833 I just don't believe in censorship. 927 00:52:49,917 --> 00:52:51,752 I don't... That's taking away your freedom. 928 00:52:51,835 --> 00:52:53,587 That's taking away your individual right 929 00:52:53,670 --> 00:52:55,214 to make up your own mind for things. 930 00:52:55,297 --> 00:52:58,050 The last person that started censorship was Adolf Hitler. 931 00:52:58,133 --> 00:52:59,551 And look what happened there. 932 00:53:03,555 --> 00:53:05,557 Meanwhile, the FBI was closing in 933 00:53:05,641 --> 00:53:07,768 on Deep Throat and its distribution. 934 00:53:07,851 --> 00:53:11,730 They pinpointed the Perainos' headquarters in Fort Lauderdale 935 00:53:11,814 --> 00:53:13,899 and placed them under surveillance. 936 00:53:18,612 --> 00:53:20,739 One day, I get a telephone call 937 00:53:20,989 --> 00:53:22,825 from a confidential source 938 00:53:24,284 --> 00:53:26,412 who will remain anonymous. 939 00:53:28,747 --> 00:53:29,998 And he says to me, uh: 940 00:53:30,082 --> 00:53:34,169 "We've got so much cash that we are having trouble 941 00:53:34,545 --> 00:53:37,047 physically moving about the office 942 00:53:37,214 --> 00:53:39,675 because the money is gettin' in the way." 943 00:53:40,259 --> 00:53:42,553 I said, "How much you got?" He said, "I don't know. 944 00:53:42,636 --> 00:53:44,888 We don't even count it anymore." 945 00:53:45,472 --> 00:53:47,891 I said, "You don't count it?" He said, "No." 946 00:53:47,975 --> 00:53:50,185 I said, "What do you do?" He said, "We weigh it." 947 00:53:52,062 --> 00:53:53,522 To get around the law 948 00:53:53,605 --> 00:53:55,774 the mob set up its own distribution system 949 00:53:55,858 --> 00:53:57,359 of checkers and sweepers 950 00:53:57,443 --> 00:53:59,820 who traveled the country delivering prints 951 00:53:59,903 --> 00:54:01,989 and collecting the money from theaters. 952 00:54:02,072 --> 00:54:05,701 At a certain time every day, the checker or the sweeper 953 00:54:05,784 --> 00:54:09,037 would go to the manager of the particular theater, 954 00:54:09,288 --> 00:54:13,083 and he would say, "Our take is 50%, 955 00:54:13,167 --> 00:54:15,586 and we want it now, in cash. 956 00:54:16,253 --> 00:54:18,630 Give us the money now, or else." 957 00:54:20,757 --> 00:54:22,843 I was on my way down to Nashville. 958 00:54:22,968 --> 00:54:24,386 And the reason I went to Nashville 959 00:54:24,470 --> 00:54:26,472 was I wanted to buy these Goo Goo candy bars. 960 00:54:26,972 --> 00:54:29,224 ♪ Goo Goo, chew it, Taste it, sweet milk ♪ 961 00:54:29,308 --> 00:54:31,059 I was gonna buy a bunch of them 962 00:54:31,143 --> 00:54:32,394 I was gonna buy a bunch of them 963 00:54:32,478 --> 00:54:33,812 and see if I could get it going. 964 00:54:33,896 --> 00:54:35,939 Well, on Saturday night, I decided I'd just go out. 965 00:54:36,023 --> 00:54:37,983 And I met a couple of guys from New Jersey. 966 00:54:38,066 --> 00:54:39,568 They were a couple of Italian guys. 967 00:54:39,651 --> 00:54:40,694 I happen to be a Greek, 968 00:54:40,777 --> 00:54:42,446 so Italians and Greeks are like cousins. 969 00:54:42,613 --> 00:54:46,325 ♪ I gotta have a Goo Goo, How 'bout you? Goo Goo ♪ 970 00:54:46,408 --> 00:54:48,243 They wanted me to go to work for 'em 971 00:54:48,327 --> 00:54:50,954 uh, baby-sitting Deep Throat. 972 00:54:51,371 --> 00:54:54,875 And they sent me over to the Lamar Theater in Memphis. 973 00:54:55,334 --> 00:54:57,669 And that's where it all began. 974 00:54:59,171 --> 00:55:02,299 And as people walked in, I would count 'em in. 975 00:55:02,508 --> 00:55:04,468 Then I would go down through the theater crowd 976 00:55:04,551 --> 00:55:07,804 and I would count the number of people in the theater with a little clicker. 977 00:55:07,888 --> 00:55:09,806 You know, those little things. 978 00:55:12,142 --> 00:55:14,811 A checker. That's what I was. 979 00:55:16,104 --> 00:55:18,607 I, I was just a simple checker. I had no power. 980 00:55:18,690 --> 00:55:20,776 I had no rank, nothing. I was just an employee. 981 00:55:22,736 --> 00:55:24,363 Nobody was hurt. 982 00:55:24,738 --> 00:55:26,949 And, uh, the only ones that got hurt 983 00:55:27,032 --> 00:55:30,536 was, uh, one of our checkers in New Orleans. 984 00:55:30,619 --> 00:55:33,205 Uh, he had $60,000 and he disappeared. 985 00:55:33,288 --> 00:55:36,458 The money disappeared and they found his body in the back of a pickup truck. 986 00:55:38,835 --> 00:55:41,713 A theater manager refused to pay. 987 00:55:43,298 --> 00:55:46,969 And the next thing I know, I heard the theater burned down. 988 00:55:47,177 --> 00:55:49,846 I'm not saying they would do somethin'. 989 00:55:49,930 --> 00:55:52,474 But I did have a Colt .45 with the hammer back 990 00:55:52,558 --> 00:55:53,600 in my belt. 991 00:55:55,143 --> 00:55:58,438 They had people that... That would do things. 992 00:55:59,273 --> 00:56:02,359 Was it any kind of, uh, an organized crime? 993 00:56:02,442 --> 00:56:04,278 Well, is every Italian 994 00:56:04,903 --> 00:56:06,488 a criminal? 995 00:56:06,572 --> 00:56:09,199 Is every Italian a gangster? I don't think so. 996 00:56:09,283 --> 00:56:12,160 You know, some Italians have actually opened up Italian restaurants 997 00:56:12,244 --> 00:56:14,997 and done very well with them. 998 00:56:16,832 --> 00:56:19,042 and done very well with them. 999 00:56:19,126 --> 00:56:21,128 They won't threaten you in any way. 1000 00:56:21,211 --> 00:56:23,630 But if you do something dishonest, 1001 00:56:24,548 --> 00:56:25,716 most of the times, 1002 00:56:25,799 --> 00:56:28,343 they don't give you a second chance. 1003 00:56:31,263 --> 00:56:33,557 So why did you walk away from it yourself? 1004 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,809 Because I was told to. 1005 00:56:36,977 --> 00:56:39,688 Rather, my wife was told that I should... 1006 00:56:40,897 --> 00:56:42,024 Rather, my wife was told that I should... 1007 00:56:45,319 --> 00:56:47,779 And no money in the world is worth 1008 00:56:47,863 --> 00:56:49,364 just worrying about something. 1009 00:56:54,119 --> 00:56:56,330 -That's my wife. - Artie, again? 1010 00:56:56,747 --> 00:56:57,789 Now, Terry. 1011 00:56:57,873 --> 00:56:59,041 Are you enjoying this? 1012 00:57:00,751 --> 00:57:03,128 Damn it. You're some kind of nut. 1013 00:57:04,254 --> 00:57:07,466 Okay. They're finished, Terry, all right? 1014 00:57:14,973 --> 00:57:18,518 Finally, after three years of FBI investigation, 1015 00:57:18,602 --> 00:57:23,065 the government launched one of the most ambitious obscenity trials ever mounted. 1016 00:57:23,148 --> 00:57:26,401 Designed to nail Deep Throat and all pornographic films 1017 00:57:26,485 --> 00:57:27,986 once and for all. 1018 00:57:30,489 --> 00:57:33,825 I think this case was a case, a prosecution 1019 00:57:33,992 --> 00:57:36,828 that was directed, orchestrated, 1020 00:57:37,496 --> 00:57:39,247 uh, from Washington, D.C. 1021 00:57:41,208 --> 00:57:45,796 All told, 117 people were charged with conspiracy: 1022 00:57:46,171 --> 00:57:48,799 from the distributor to the projectionist. 1023 00:57:48,882 --> 00:57:50,384 And one man, 1024 00:57:50,467 --> 00:57:53,512 the government intended to make an example of. 1025 00:57:54,596 --> 00:57:56,431 The director had immunity. 1026 00:57:56,765 --> 00:57:58,266 The star had immunity, 1027 00:57:58,475 --> 00:58:00,268 but the actor did not. 1028 00:58:06,817 --> 00:58:09,403 The theory was, if you prosecuted the star 1029 00:58:09,486 --> 00:58:12,155 then nobody would ever wanna make a film like this. 1030 00:58:12,239 --> 00:58:14,533 And you could drive the industry out of business. 1031 00:58:15,534 --> 00:58:19,830 Harry Reems was paid $250 to appear in Deep Throat. 1032 00:58:20,247 --> 00:58:22,040 He had no control, 1033 00:58:22,332 --> 00:58:24,584 no say, no input 1034 00:58:25,168 --> 00:58:28,505 with what the final version of this film was gonna be 1035 00:58:28,588 --> 00:58:31,174 or whether it was gonna be distributed interstate, 1036 00:58:31,258 --> 00:58:33,468 intrastate, intergalactic. 1037 00:58:33,552 --> 00:58:34,928 It's impressive, for the first time 1038 00:58:35,012 --> 00:58:36,430 in the history of the United States 1039 00:58:36,513 --> 00:58:38,682 an artist has ever been brought to trial by the government. 1040 00:58:40,517 --> 00:58:42,561 All of the trials have been prosecuted 1041 00:58:42,644 --> 00:58:45,313 by a young assistant US attorney named Larry Parrish, 1042 00:58:45,397 --> 00:58:48,191 a lay Protestant preacher who has been quoted as saying 1043 00:58:48,275 --> 00:58:51,653 he'd rather get smut off the streets of Memphis than dope. 1044 00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,115 Larry Parrish is the... About one of the finest people 1045 00:58:55,198 --> 00:58:56,950 I've ever known in my entire life. 1046 00:58:58,452 --> 00:58:59,578 Fine guy. 1047 00:58:59,661 --> 00:59:01,997 And on top of that he's, uh, he's movie star quality. 1048 00:59:02,998 --> 00:59:04,332 First of all, he was very tall. 1049 00:59:05,292 --> 00:59:07,252 And I hate tall people. 1050 00:59:07,919 --> 00:59:09,212 Uh... 1051 00:59:09,296 --> 00:59:11,089 But he was also very arrogant. 1052 00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,342 If you're gonna dance, you need to pay the piper. 1053 00:59:14,426 --> 00:59:16,261 And, uh, I'm the piper. 1054 00:59:16,344 --> 00:59:18,680 You've got to be accountable under the law. 1055 00:59:18,930 --> 00:59:20,974 It was like when some people know 1056 00:59:21,058 --> 00:59:23,769 that they have the answer to everything 1057 00:59:24,019 --> 00:59:27,689 and everybody else is, is, is totally wrong. 1058 00:59:28,523 --> 00:59:32,277 It was purely and simply a matter of law enforcement. 1059 00:59:32,861 --> 00:59:36,031 And I guess if there was any passion in it for me, 1060 00:59:36,114 --> 00:59:37,949 it was that, um, 1061 00:59:38,992 --> 00:59:42,329 these are laws that had not been enforced. 1062 00:59:42,746 --> 00:59:44,581 And I knew of no reason 1063 00:59:44,664 --> 00:59:46,708 why they should not be enforced. 1064 00:59:46,917 --> 00:59:48,251 To make his case, 1065 00:59:48,335 --> 00:59:51,171 Larry Parrish invoked a highly unusual use 1066 00:59:51,254 --> 00:59:52,798 of the conspiracy laws. 1067 00:59:53,006 --> 00:59:55,967 The government explained their conspiracy theory 1068 00:59:56,051 --> 00:59:57,302 in the terms of a train. 1069 01:00:00,222 --> 01:00:03,058 That if the train starts in Los Angeles 1070 01:00:03,141 --> 01:00:05,393 and you get on in Los Angeles, 1071 01:00:05,685 --> 01:00:07,771 and you ride to Denver and get off, 1072 01:00:07,854 --> 01:00:10,357 but the train continues on to Memphis, 1073 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,819 you are legally responsible for the entire journey. 1074 01:00:14,903 --> 01:00:17,656 And if you're responsible for everything that takes place, 1075 01:00:17,739 --> 01:00:19,324 you have unlimited liability. 1076 01:00:19,658 --> 01:00:23,411 This was a very creative use of the law of conspiracy 1077 01:00:23,495 --> 01:00:26,706 and prosecutors should never be creative. 1078 01:00:26,832 --> 01:00:28,458 That's not their job. 1079 01:00:28,834 --> 01:00:30,919 If my mother had been involved, 1080 01:00:31,002 --> 01:00:32,254 she would have been indicted. 1081 01:00:32,337 --> 01:00:35,257 I will promise you that. Uh, she wasn't. 1082 01:00:35,757 --> 01:00:39,010 When you tell artists, bad artists or good artists, 1083 01:00:39,094 --> 01:00:41,471 that they cannot experiment in certain avenues, 1084 01:00:41,555 --> 01:00:44,015 you are taking away the basic freedoms of every American. 1085 01:00:44,516 --> 01:00:46,893 For some reason, though, 1086 01:00:46,977 --> 01:00:50,397 it was as if he is involved in art. 1087 01:00:50,939 --> 01:00:53,692 And so art is protected. 1088 01:00:53,984 --> 01:00:56,778 Well, not by the definition of the Supreme Court. 1089 01:00:57,028 --> 01:00:59,531 Maybe I'm disgusting in some peoples' eyes. 1090 01:00:59,614 --> 01:01:01,283 Maybe others are bored by me. 1091 01:01:01,366 --> 01:01:03,743 But there are no laws against acting in these films. 1092 01:01:04,369 --> 01:01:07,080 And the actors and the actresses, 1093 01:01:07,414 --> 01:01:09,416 I really hesitate to call them that. 1094 01:01:10,917 --> 01:01:13,712 They are prostitutes and whoremongers 1095 01:01:14,045 --> 01:01:15,964 on the screen. 1096 01:01:16,047 --> 01:01:18,550 I'm sorry, that's just all they are. 1097 01:01:19,009 --> 01:01:20,427 And, uh... 1098 01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:23,388 Uh, they... 1099 01:01:25,473 --> 01:01:28,560 They don't even believe that there is any law. 1100 01:01:28,643 --> 01:01:32,647 How do you communicate to those persons 1101 01:01:32,856 --> 01:01:34,941 that this is against the law? 1102 01:01:35,066 --> 01:01:36,651 I face five years in jail. 1103 01:01:36,735 --> 01:01:40,322 Do I belong in jail for five years for acting in Deep Throat, 1104 01:01:40,405 --> 01:01:42,157 which is not in violation of the law? 1105 01:01:49,664 --> 01:01:51,333 If seeing this motion picture 1106 01:01:51,416 --> 01:01:53,335 as many times as Larry Parrish has seen it 1107 01:01:53,418 --> 01:01:56,254 has not corrupted him, or made him into a sex addict, 1108 01:01:56,338 --> 01:01:58,798 than I think that's, uh, proof positive 1109 01:01:58,882 --> 01:02:02,969 that these films do not have a deleterious effect on the human being. 1110 01:02:03,678 --> 01:02:04,888 I'm sitting here right now 1111 01:02:04,971 --> 01:02:07,224 trying to draw some images up from Deep Throat. 1112 01:02:07,307 --> 01:02:09,309 To be honest about it, uh, 1113 01:02:10,769 --> 01:02:13,188 do I feel that I'm worse off because of it? 1114 01:02:13,271 --> 01:02:14,272 Yes, I do. 1115 01:02:15,398 --> 01:02:18,401 Uh, I can't get images out of my mind 1116 01:02:18,485 --> 01:02:19,819 that I have seen. 1117 01:02:24,282 --> 01:02:26,534 I have told people I'm not a eunuch. 1118 01:02:26,618 --> 01:02:30,247 I'm, I'm a regular, red-blooded American male. 1119 01:02:32,165 --> 01:02:33,541 And, uh, 1120 01:02:33,625 --> 01:02:35,752 and those images I wish were not there. 1121 01:02:37,712 --> 01:02:39,756 We had a lot of eye contact with the jury. 1122 01:02:39,839 --> 01:02:43,009 I think the jury was very sympathetic to Harry. 1123 01:02:44,552 --> 01:02:46,972 And there was a palpable change 1124 01:02:47,264 --> 01:02:49,140 in the jury's reaction 1125 01:02:49,599 --> 01:02:52,727 to Harry after seeing him in the film. 1126 01:02:53,144 --> 01:02:56,231 That was one of the amusing times in the trial. 1127 01:02:56,314 --> 01:02:57,983 He sat over in a, uh, 1128 01:02:58,066 --> 01:03:00,485 in a corner by himself, sort of hoverin' 1129 01:03:00,944 --> 01:03:02,779 and wouldn't look at the jurors, 1130 01:03:02,862 --> 01:03:04,489 and they were all staring at him. 1131 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,580 I felt as though my life was being taken away from me. 1132 01:03:12,664 --> 01:03:15,625 And that I was being depicted, characterized 1133 01:03:16,293 --> 01:03:18,086 as something evil, a demon. 1134 01:03:25,677 --> 01:03:27,345 After a two-month trial, 1135 01:03:27,429 --> 01:03:29,556 the jury took just five hours 1136 01:03:29,639 --> 01:03:32,434 to return a unanimously guilty verdict. 1137 01:03:32,517 --> 01:03:34,352 The substance of what you say, 1138 01:03:34,436 --> 01:03:37,063 in effect, is you were the little man who wasn't there. 1139 01:03:37,147 --> 01:03:38,523 But the fact of the matter is, 1140 01:03:38,606 --> 01:03:40,692 you deliberately and knowingly 1141 01:03:40,775 --> 01:03:42,402 committed a long series 1142 01:03:42,485 --> 01:03:45,196 of immoral, revolting, obscene acts. 1143 01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,282 You might have found it obscene, and immoral, 1144 01:03:47,365 --> 01:03:48,700 and distasteful, and disgusting. 1145 01:03:48,783 --> 01:03:49,701 Others don't. 1146 01:03:49,784 --> 01:03:53,038 The acts you performed on film are acts that would be crimes 1147 01:03:53,121 --> 01:03:55,623 if they were performed on the street or someplace else. 1148 01:03:55,707 --> 01:03:58,335 No. They are wonderful celebrations of life. 1149 01:03:58,418 --> 01:03:59,711 They're called sex, Mr. Cohn. 1150 01:03:59,794 --> 01:04:02,047 You just can't cloak yourself with the American flag 1151 01:04:02,130 --> 01:04:03,506 because you don't fit the image. 1152 01:04:03,590 --> 01:04:07,052 You talk as though the Bill of Rights was created just for you. 1153 01:04:15,477 --> 01:04:17,812 For the first time in US history, 1154 01:04:17,896 --> 01:04:21,358 an actor had been convicted for merely playing a part. 1155 01:04:21,691 --> 01:04:24,194 And Harry Reems faced five years in jail. 1156 01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,489 It did not bode well for the future 1157 01:04:27,572 --> 01:04:30,033 of any kind of aesthetic or artistic expression 1158 01:04:30,116 --> 01:04:32,077 in this country, in any of the arts, 1159 01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,120 much less this poor guy 1160 01:04:34,287 --> 01:04:38,041 who, you know, suddenly finds himself being made a scapegoat. 1161 01:04:38,333 --> 01:04:42,879 All in the interest of a, basically, moral crusade. 1162 01:04:46,966 --> 01:04:49,052 What was behind the case in Memphis 1163 01:04:49,135 --> 01:04:51,304 was the religious right. 1164 01:04:51,388 --> 01:04:54,265 This is the first real incarnation 1165 01:04:54,349 --> 01:04:58,520 of trying to apply their conception of morality 1166 01:04:59,354 --> 01:05:00,647 to all of America. 1167 01:05:04,526 --> 01:05:05,568 In response, 1168 01:05:05,652 --> 01:05:08,780 Hollywood was quick to mobilize and defend Harry Reems, 1169 01:05:08,863 --> 01:05:12,283 positioning itself as an opposing cultural force. 1170 01:05:13,993 --> 01:05:15,537 Professionals in the arts 1171 01:05:15,620 --> 01:05:17,872 may not find Deep Throat, as such, 1172 01:05:17,956 --> 01:05:20,291 a piece of art worth defending. 1173 01:05:20,375 --> 01:05:21,793 But they are worried about 1174 01:05:21,876 --> 01:05:23,878 the threat of being arrested later on 1175 01:05:23,962 --> 01:05:26,548 for what they write or act in today. 1176 01:05:26,714 --> 01:05:28,133 It's a censorship issue. 1177 01:05:28,425 --> 01:05:32,345 My overall concern is the basic, uh, infringement 1178 01:05:32,429 --> 01:05:34,097 on the rights of the First Amendment. 1179 01:05:34,180 --> 01:05:36,433 That's probably why I came to his defense, 1180 01:05:36,516 --> 01:05:39,144 knowing that Beatty and Nicholson did. 1181 01:05:40,895 --> 01:05:43,440 That's how I make all my decisions. 1182 01:05:45,108 --> 01:05:47,944 I said, "Alan, am, am, am I gonna be convicted? 1183 01:05:48,027 --> 01:05:49,404 "Am I going to do prison time?" 1184 01:05:49,487 --> 01:05:51,406 And his response was: 1185 01:05:53,950 --> 01:05:55,577 "If the Republicans are reelected, 1186 01:05:55,660 --> 01:05:57,454 you're going to jail. 1187 01:05:57,996 --> 01:06:01,458 If the Democrats are elected, you're going to be set free." 1188 01:06:05,044 --> 01:06:07,255 While Harry fought for his freedom, 1189 01:06:07,338 --> 01:06:10,008 the architect of the moral crusade in the first place 1190 01:06:10,091 --> 01:06:12,469 was no longer in office to savor his triumph. 1191 01:06:13,178 --> 01:06:16,556 I shall resign the Presidency effective at noon tomorrow. 1192 01:06:23,146 --> 01:06:25,648 the nickname for the secret Watergate source. 1193 01:06:26,357 --> 01:06:28,651 There's an expression in journalism 1194 01:06:28,735 --> 01:06:30,778 called "deep background" which means that 1195 01:06:30,862 --> 01:06:34,032 called "deep background" which means that 1196 01:06:34,115 --> 01:06:37,327 with any kind of hint of attribution. 1197 01:06:38,161 --> 01:06:41,289 Deep Throat, deep background. You know, it's sort of a... 1198 01:06:41,372 --> 01:06:43,416 ♪ But if you want to know How I really feel ♪ 1199 01:06:43,500 --> 01:06:47,212 Its national nightmare over, the nation got down. 1200 01:06:47,879 --> 01:06:50,006 ♪ Get the action goin' ♪ 1201 01:06:52,509 --> 01:06:54,594 ♪ How do you like it? How do you like it? ♪ 1202 01:06:54,677 --> 01:06:56,930 The time was right for a porno star to be a pop star. 1203 01:06:57,013 --> 01:06:58,139 Who would have ever thought? 1204 01:06:58,306 --> 01:06:59,807 ♪ How do you like it? ♪ 1205 01:06:59,891 --> 01:07:01,601 More, more, more. 1206 01:07:01,684 --> 01:07:03,311 How do you like it, how do you like it? 1207 01:07:03,394 --> 01:07:04,771 How do you like it, how do you like it? 1208 01:07:04,854 --> 01:07:06,481 That's it. That's all of it. 1209 01:07:06,564 --> 01:07:09,484 It gets repeated and repeated and repeated. 1210 01:07:11,277 --> 01:07:12,362 It means nothing. 1211 01:07:15,281 --> 01:07:17,492 ♪ Keep it coming, love ♪ 1212 01:07:17,575 --> 01:07:19,744 ♪ Don't stop it now Don't stop it, no ♪ 1213 01:07:19,827 --> 01:07:21,663 ♪ Don't stop it now Don't stop ♪ 1214 01:07:21,746 --> 01:07:26,042 ♪ Keep it coming, love Keep it coming, love ♪ 1215 01:07:26,334 --> 01:07:28,503 ♪ Don't stop it now Don't stop it, no ♪ 1216 01:07:28,586 --> 01:07:30,630 ♪ Don't stop it now Don't stop it ♪ 1217 01:07:30,713 --> 01:07:34,717 ♪ Don't let your well run dry ♪ 1218 01:07:35,009 --> 01:07:36,928 ♪ Don't stop it now ♪ 1219 01:07:38,805 --> 01:07:40,056 ♪ Keep it coming, love ♪ 1220 01:07:40,139 --> 01:07:41,307 A year ago, 1221 01:07:41,391 --> 01:07:44,018 a Memphis federal court convicted actor Harry Reems 1222 01:07:44,102 --> 01:07:46,521 on obscenity charges in connection with his role 1223 01:07:46,604 --> 01:07:48,273 in the film Deep Throat. 1224 01:07:48,356 --> 01:07:51,651 Today, a US District Judge in Memphis overturned that conviction, 1225 01:07:51,734 --> 01:07:54,320 saying that the actor's activities took place before 1226 01:07:54,404 --> 01:07:57,282 the 1973 Supreme Court obscenity ruling. 1227 01:07:58,783 --> 01:08:02,370 Now that my name was-- Was pretty recognizable, 1228 01:08:02,662 --> 01:08:03,871 I moved to LA, 1229 01:08:04,163 --> 01:08:06,916 thinking that certainly somebody would come along and say: 1230 01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:08,042 "Well, there's a sellable name." 1231 01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,879 Allan Carr had produced and directed films, 1232 01:08:11,963 --> 01:08:13,506 uh, for Paramount. 1233 01:08:13,590 --> 01:08:15,049 And he called me one day and said, 1234 01:08:15,133 --> 01:08:17,176 "I'd like you to play the role 1235 01:08:17,302 --> 01:08:20,430 of the high school coach in the movie Grease." 1236 01:08:20,763 --> 01:08:23,266 I was excited that I was given an opportunity. 1237 01:08:23,349 --> 01:08:24,726 Then about two or three weeks 1238 01:08:24,809 --> 01:08:27,312 before principal photography began, 1239 01:08:27,437 --> 01:08:30,106 Paramount Pictures removed me from the cast. 1240 01:08:30,189 --> 01:08:33,067 That they didn't feel as though I belonged 1241 01:08:33,901 --> 01:08:36,529 That they didn't feel as though I belonged 1242 01:08:36,613 --> 01:08:38,531 And the lights went on for me. 1243 01:08:39,157 --> 01:08:41,034 I had branded myself 1244 01:08:41,159 --> 01:08:43,328 and, uh, given myself a certain stigma. 1245 01:08:44,746 --> 01:08:46,914 I just started to drink every night, 1246 01:08:47,165 --> 01:08:48,583 looking for an escape, 1247 01:08:48,666 --> 01:08:51,753 looking for a little bit of lightheartedness. 1248 01:08:51,836 --> 01:08:53,212 And, you know, 1249 01:08:53,296 --> 01:08:57,300 it just led me into a terrible, terrible disease 1250 01:08:57,383 --> 01:08:59,510 of alcoholism and drug addiction. 1251 01:09:00,094 --> 01:09:01,971 What are you doin'? 1252 01:09:02,138 --> 01:09:04,807 An antidote. I'm mixing an antidote. 1253 01:09:04,974 --> 01:09:06,893 I remember the last movies I was on, 1254 01:09:06,976 --> 01:09:08,519 I couldn't even walk. 1255 01:09:08,603 --> 01:09:10,938 I mean, literally, they had to carry me to a seat 1256 01:09:11,022 --> 01:09:14,067 and I'd shoot the whole motion picture sitting in a seat, 1257 01:09:14,150 --> 01:09:16,152 delivering lines, drunk. 1258 01:09:19,155 --> 01:09:21,699 I was so drunk and so drugged up at the time 1259 01:09:21,783 --> 01:09:24,619 that I couldn't do sex scenes. 1260 01:09:25,078 --> 01:09:26,746 Oh, my head. 1261 01:09:26,829 --> 01:09:28,790 They'd carry me off the set 1262 01:09:28,956 --> 01:09:32,418 and somebody would get me home and I'd drink some more 1263 01:09:32,502 --> 01:09:35,296 and they'd pick me up and take me back the next day. 1264 01:09:35,380 --> 01:09:37,465 It's all a blur. It's all a blur. 1265 01:09:40,968 --> 01:09:42,887 I lost my home. 1266 01:09:42,970 --> 01:09:44,681 I lost my career. 1267 01:09:45,348 --> 01:09:47,183 I lost my friends, 1268 01:09:48,768 --> 01:09:50,436 and ended up, literally, 1269 01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,690 panhandling in the streets on Sunset Boulevard. 1270 01:09:55,566 --> 01:09:57,151 Harry's personal defeat 1271 01:09:57,235 --> 01:09:59,612 in the face of his First Amendment triumph 1272 01:09:59,696 --> 01:10:02,365 reflected the way society was changing. 1273 01:10:06,828 --> 01:10:08,246 Get lost! 1274 01:10:08,329 --> 01:10:10,289 Freedom! Freedom! 1275 01:10:10,373 --> 01:10:12,375 Culture took a reactionary turn 1276 01:10:12,458 --> 01:10:14,585 after what seemed like we were on, uh, heading 1277 01:10:14,669 --> 01:10:17,422 toward a climax of the sexual revolution 1278 01:10:17,505 --> 01:10:20,091 that we never actually, uh, attained. 1279 01:10:22,343 --> 01:10:24,387 In the 1970s, 1280 01:10:24,470 --> 01:10:27,682 the worst censors in the country 1281 01:10:28,057 --> 01:10:30,435 suddenly became the feminists. 1282 01:10:32,437 --> 01:10:34,230 The so-called sexual revolution 1283 01:10:34,313 --> 01:10:37,775 in this country has not been liberating for women. 1284 01:10:37,859 --> 01:10:40,820 It's the way that pornography invades the popular culture... 1285 01:10:40,903 --> 01:10:43,531 It's becoming increasingly socially acceptable. 1286 01:10:45,158 --> 01:10:47,285 The role that you have selected for women 1287 01:10:47,368 --> 01:10:48,411 is degrading to women 1288 01:10:48,494 --> 01:10:50,496 because you choose to see women as sex objects 1289 01:10:50,580 --> 01:10:51,873 not as full human beings. 1290 01:10:51,956 --> 01:10:53,666 -Well, obviously-- -Hold on. The day that-- 1291 01:10:55,001 --> 01:10:56,836 -Obviously-- -I haven't finished. 1292 01:10:56,919 --> 01:10:58,921 The day that you are willing to come out here 1293 01:10:59,088 --> 01:11:01,424 with a cottontail attached to your rear end... 1294 01:11:04,218 --> 01:11:07,013 When the women's movement began to attack sex in general 1295 01:11:07,096 --> 01:11:08,181 and men in general, 1296 01:11:08,264 --> 01:11:09,307 I was-- 1297 01:11:09,390 --> 01:11:10,725 I was at a loss for words 1298 01:11:10,808 --> 01:11:13,436 because these were our partners 1299 01:11:13,519 --> 01:11:15,855 in a revolution to really change 1300 01:11:15,938 --> 01:11:17,982 uh, sexual values. 1301 01:11:18,191 --> 01:11:19,358 I'm more in sympathy 1302 01:11:19,442 --> 01:11:21,486 than perhaps, uh, you know, the girls realize-- 1303 01:11:21,569 --> 01:11:22,570 Women. 1304 01:11:22,653 --> 01:11:23,696 I'm sorry. 1305 01:11:23,780 --> 01:11:24,822 Yes. I'm 35. 1306 01:11:24,906 --> 01:11:26,282 Than the ladies realize. 1307 01:11:26,365 --> 01:11:28,367 I use "girls" referring to women of all ages. 1308 01:11:28,451 --> 01:11:29,994 You should stop. 1309 01:11:30,077 --> 01:11:32,079 If you want to be called a boy... 1310 01:11:32,163 --> 01:11:34,207 I see. Okay. Um... 1311 01:11:37,293 --> 01:11:40,171 The idea was to convince people 1312 01:11:40,922 --> 01:11:45,009 that there were good, sound, feminist, humanitarian reasons 1313 01:11:45,092 --> 01:11:47,136 to be against pornography. 1314 01:11:48,638 --> 01:11:51,432 Women Against Pornography found a surprising ally 1315 01:11:51,516 --> 01:11:54,936 in America's most famous porn star: Linda Lovelace, 1316 01:11:55,102 --> 01:11:56,604 who had retired from the spotlight 1317 01:11:56,687 --> 01:11:58,064 and was now a mother and housewife. 1318 01:12:01,943 --> 01:12:03,736 Linda Lovelace is, uh, here. 1319 01:12:03,903 --> 01:12:05,738 The book is titled, uh, Ordeal. 1320 01:12:05,822 --> 01:12:07,949 And I'll tell you, this book is a very, uh, 1321 01:12:08,032 --> 01:12:10,201 explicit recounting of what happened to you. 1322 01:12:10,284 --> 01:12:12,578 I felt it was important to let 1323 01:12:12,662 --> 01:12:14,288 everything out that happened to me. 1324 01:12:14,413 --> 01:12:16,874 I literally became a prisoner of Mr. Traynor's. 1325 01:12:17,041 --> 01:12:19,001 I wasn't permitted to go to the bathroom by myself. 1326 01:12:19,335 --> 01:12:21,170 I was never allowed out of his eyesight. 1327 01:12:21,546 --> 01:12:23,756 If he took a shower, I had to take a shower with him. 1328 01:12:24,048 --> 01:12:27,426 If I did have any kind of communication with my friends or my family, 1329 01:12:27,510 --> 01:12:29,303 he was on the extension with a .45 1330 01:12:29,387 --> 01:12:31,973 or an M16 semi-automatic machine gun pointed at me. 1331 01:12:32,306 --> 01:12:35,852 And there are those who say you can see the bruises on her in the film. 1332 01:12:37,812 --> 01:12:41,065 You tell me if the bruises are visible in the film. 1333 01:12:41,315 --> 01:12:44,193 How did Linda Lovelace and Gloria Steinem join forces? 1334 01:12:44,277 --> 01:12:45,820 How did the two of you get together? 1335 01:12:45,903 --> 01:12:48,739 I saw Linda on the Phil Donahue Show. 1336 01:12:48,823 --> 01:12:52,618 And she was being questioned by Phil, 1337 01:12:52,702 --> 01:12:55,413 who I think is usually a more sensitive questioner 1338 01:12:55,496 --> 01:12:57,164 than he was this time, 1339 01:12:57,248 --> 01:13:00,543 uh, and by the audience, with enormous disbelief. 1340 01:13:00,626 --> 01:13:02,712 And I still find it very hard to believe 1341 01:13:02,795 --> 01:13:04,797 that you have become a changed person. 1342 01:13:04,922 --> 01:13:07,216 I had always heard that to be hypnotized, you had to be willing. 1343 01:13:07,508 --> 01:13:10,011 Is there something about the way you were raised, in your view, 1344 01:13:10,094 --> 01:13:11,596 that made you vulnerable to this? 1345 01:13:11,679 --> 01:13:14,098 And yet she was still being asked, 1346 01:13:14,181 --> 01:13:15,975 uh, what in her background 1347 01:13:16,058 --> 01:13:18,728 had led her to become essentially a hostage. 1348 01:13:18,978 --> 01:13:20,980 What did lead you to become a hostage, 1349 01:13:21,063 --> 01:13:22,940 if we can-- If we can now ask the question? 1350 01:13:23,024 --> 01:13:25,109 Does it go back beyond that to your childhood, 1351 01:13:25,192 --> 01:13:26,819 -that you were a susceptible person? -No. 1352 01:13:26,903 --> 01:13:30,531 See now what you're doing, you're doing what, what made me so angry. 1353 01:13:30,615 --> 01:13:34,076 You know, because we don't say to the hostages in Iran: 1354 01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:36,954 "What in your-- What in your background led you 1355 01:13:37,038 --> 01:13:38,664 -to, to be in that embassy?" -Yeah. 1356 01:13:38,748 --> 01:13:40,541 The situations are not nearly comparable, Gloria. 1357 01:13:40,625 --> 01:13:42,919 They are. It's force. 1358 01:13:43,586 --> 01:13:47,048 Linda needed somebody to tell her what to do. 1359 01:13:48,925 --> 01:13:51,344 And as long as she had somebody telling her what to do, 1360 01:13:51,427 --> 01:13:52,970 she, she was happy. 1361 01:13:53,054 --> 01:13:54,305 So when she made the movie, 1362 01:13:54,388 --> 01:13:55,848 she was happy making the movie. 1363 01:13:55,932 --> 01:13:57,350 After the movie, somebody said, 1364 01:13:57,433 --> 01:13:59,268 "Hey, you shouldn't have made that movie." 1365 01:13:59,352 --> 01:14:01,479 So she became unhappy about making the movie, 1366 01:14:01,562 --> 01:14:03,230 which wasn't true. 1367 01:14:03,314 --> 01:14:05,441 She was very happy about making the movie. 1368 01:14:11,072 --> 01:14:14,241 She was very happy about making the movie. 1369 01:14:14,325 --> 01:14:18,329 culminated with her testimony before the Meese Commission in 1986. 1370 01:14:18,746 --> 01:14:20,873 My ordeal still goes on. 1371 01:14:20,957 --> 01:14:22,667 The film Deep Throat still shows 1372 01:14:22,750 --> 01:14:25,211 and virtually every time someone watches that movie, 1373 01:14:25,294 --> 01:14:27,672 they're watching me being raped. 1374 01:14:27,755 --> 01:14:29,840 Once again, the government had set out 1375 01:14:29,924 --> 01:14:31,842 to determine the effect of pornography. 1376 01:14:31,926 --> 01:14:34,845 This time, instead of relying on scientific data, 1377 01:14:34,929 --> 01:14:36,764 they relied on personal testimony 1378 01:14:36,847 --> 01:14:39,767 to prove that pornography was a social evil. 1379 01:14:40,935 --> 01:14:43,771 Well, the other day my 8-year-old son said to me: 1380 01:14:43,854 --> 01:14:46,148 "Mommy, if this country is so great, 1381 01:14:46,232 --> 01:14:48,150 how come people are still hurting you?" 1382 01:14:48,234 --> 01:14:49,777 It's sort of like the Oprah Show. 1383 01:14:49,986 --> 01:14:53,114 It's, um, much more anecdotal. Much less professional. 1384 01:14:53,322 --> 01:14:56,450 So what Nixon starts in the '60s and '70s 1385 01:14:56,534 --> 01:14:58,035 by stacking the court, 1386 01:14:58,119 --> 01:15:00,121 Reagan finishes with the Meese report. 1387 01:15:00,204 --> 01:15:02,123 In its most controversial finding, 1388 01:15:02,206 --> 01:15:03,416 the commission concludes 1389 01:15:03,499 --> 01:15:06,127 there is a relationship between violence and pornography. 1390 01:15:06,210 --> 01:15:08,879 The commission conducted no scientific studies. 1391 01:15:12,550 --> 01:15:14,969 Finally, after decades of struggle, 1392 01:15:15,052 --> 01:15:17,346 politics triumphed over pornography. 1393 01:15:17,430 --> 01:15:19,181 But the victory was hollow. 1394 01:15:19,265 --> 01:15:20,683 The success of Deep Throat 1395 01:15:20,766 --> 01:15:23,310 created enormous demand for hardcore, 1396 01:15:23,394 --> 01:15:25,479 that new technology could now satisfy 1397 01:15:25,563 --> 01:15:27,690 and avoid all regulation. 1398 01:15:28,107 --> 01:15:31,318 The phenomenal sales of home videocassette machines 1399 01:15:31,402 --> 01:15:33,362 have opened up a new market for erotic films. 1400 01:15:34,238 --> 01:15:37,033 It's a market that barely existed a couple of years ago. 1401 01:15:37,158 --> 01:15:40,036 But today, 30 to 50% of the tapes 1402 01:15:40,119 --> 01:15:42,288 available for play in these machines 1403 01:15:42,371 --> 01:15:44,290 are hardcore pornography. 1404 01:15:54,175 --> 01:15:57,595 Gerry Damiano, I think, really thought 1405 01:15:58,012 --> 01:16:01,807 that porn was going to merge into, kind of, Hollywood films. 1406 01:16:06,228 --> 01:16:08,397 That porn movies 1407 01:16:08,481 --> 01:16:10,775 were gonna just get bigger and bigger budgets 1408 01:16:10,858 --> 01:16:13,652 and become more like feature films with hardcore sex. 1409 01:16:13,986 --> 01:16:17,782 Looked like it was going to burst itself into something, into an art form. 1410 01:16:17,865 --> 01:16:18,908 That didn't happen. 1411 01:16:19,075 --> 01:16:20,826 In fact, just the opposite happened. 1412 01:16:20,910 --> 01:16:24,080 Instead, it dwindled into a mediocre commodity. 1413 01:16:27,875 --> 01:16:30,836 With the advent of the video camera, 1414 01:16:30,961 --> 01:16:34,840 it got to be so easy to, to shoot X-rated video 1415 01:16:35,007 --> 01:16:37,093 that everybody could do it. 1416 01:16:37,176 --> 01:16:39,470 And then, the only ones that did it 1417 01:16:39,553 --> 01:16:42,223 were the ones that could do it cheaper and cheaper, 1418 01:16:42,306 --> 01:16:43,974 for less and less and less money. 1419 01:16:48,687 --> 01:16:50,898 They were-- They were nothing. 1420 01:16:50,981 --> 01:16:53,818 They were just one sex scene after another. 1421 01:16:53,901 --> 01:16:56,278 And it-- It sort of killed itself. 1422 01:17:00,449 --> 01:17:02,576 I couldn't make that kind of film. 1423 01:17:03,077 --> 01:17:05,371 Because there was-- There was no reason to. 1424 01:17:06,664 --> 01:17:09,166 It became a-- It became a factory. 1425 01:17:11,418 --> 01:17:13,003 It was over. 1426 01:17:13,087 --> 01:17:15,673 You didn't need filmmakers anymore. 1427 01:17:20,678 --> 01:17:22,888 As the adult industry grew, 1428 01:17:22,972 --> 01:17:25,015 it neither needed the rebel filmmaker 1429 01:17:25,099 --> 01:17:26,433 who had pioneered it 1430 01:17:26,517 --> 01:17:29,436 nor heeded the feminist protest against it. 1431 01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:31,647 So finding herself redundant, 1432 01:17:31,730 --> 01:17:34,775 Linda Lovelace moved with her family to Denver 1433 01:17:34,859 --> 01:17:37,069 to try and start a new life. 1434 01:17:37,778 --> 01:17:39,405 Um, that's Mom at her desk. 1435 01:17:39,488 --> 01:17:41,532 Uh, she was the manager of the mailroom. 1436 01:17:43,951 --> 01:17:45,828 She was proud of her new desk. 1437 01:17:46,495 --> 01:17:47,663 Um... 1438 01:17:48,205 --> 01:17:50,082 They fired her when they found out about LL. 1439 01:17:50,666 --> 01:17:52,334 It happened a lot. 1440 01:17:57,381 --> 01:17:59,133 You know, I've lost two jobs 1441 01:17:59,216 --> 01:18:01,343 because of the name Linda Lovelace. 1442 01:18:01,427 --> 01:18:04,138 And, uh, that, that's kind of... 1443 01:18:04,221 --> 01:18:05,347 That hurts. 1444 01:18:05,431 --> 01:18:07,808 You know, I was always defending myself 1445 01:18:07,892 --> 01:18:10,686 after, what, 25 years. 1446 01:18:11,103 --> 01:18:13,647 I don't have to do that too much anymore. 1447 01:18:13,731 --> 01:18:16,442 So I've decided it's time for me to do what I can 1448 01:18:16,525 --> 01:18:18,402 to earn an income 1449 01:18:19,069 --> 01:18:22,573 from, uh, the abuse that I went through from the name. 1450 01:18:23,574 --> 01:18:25,159 Broke and out of work, 1451 01:18:25,242 --> 01:18:28,621 Linda returned to the world she had once condemned. 1452 01:18:32,833 --> 01:18:35,294 You know, I think it's kind of nice looking sexy 1453 01:18:35,377 --> 01:18:37,087 and still looking attractive at 51. 1454 01:18:37,171 --> 01:18:40,758 So, I didn't feel there was anything wrong with doing it. 1455 01:18:41,133 --> 01:18:42,843 Many feminists who have written, 1456 01:18:42,927 --> 01:18:44,220 you know, books... 1457 01:18:44,303 --> 01:18:46,931 And they're always using the name Linda Lovelace, and what happened to me. 1458 01:18:48,140 --> 01:18:50,684 I don't get any royalties from that. 1459 01:18:51,268 --> 01:18:54,021 And it doesn't take much to keep me happy. 1460 01:18:54,104 --> 01:18:56,273 You know? I get to be with my grandchildren, 1461 01:18:56,357 --> 01:18:58,984 around my children, and that's my joy. 1462 01:19:11,997 --> 01:19:14,792 She died penniless. Didn't have a dime. 1463 01:19:15,292 --> 01:19:16,418 She died penniless. Didn't have a dime. 1464 01:19:20,839 --> 01:19:22,132 And they all got rich. 1465 01:19:22,216 --> 01:19:23,676 They all got their hands in the pocket. 1466 01:19:29,431 --> 01:19:31,725 Fuck me harder, harder, harder! 1467 01:19:33,018 --> 01:19:35,646 Sex is a force, it's a force like lava. 1468 01:19:35,729 --> 01:19:38,691 And there haven't been too many successful engineering projects 1469 01:19:38,774 --> 01:19:40,359 about diverting the flow of lava. 1470 01:19:43,153 --> 01:19:46,031 Did I ever see the movie Deep Throat? No. 1471 01:19:46,115 --> 01:19:47,032 Did I ever see the movie Deep Throat? No. 1472 01:19:47,199 --> 01:19:50,077 No. That's with, um, that lady who died. 1473 01:19:50,327 --> 01:19:51,412 What's her name? 1474 01:19:51,870 --> 01:19:53,664 No, I have not seen it. 1475 01:19:59,169 --> 01:20:03,173 Deep Throat forged the sexual revolution 1476 01:20:04,508 --> 01:20:05,926 for good or bad. 1477 01:20:06,010 --> 01:20:07,594 It led to the porno business. 1478 01:20:07,678 --> 01:20:12,016 Linda Lovelace turned it, and Deep Throat turned it, into an industry. 1479 01:20:12,182 --> 01:20:13,392 And like it or hate it, 1480 01:20:13,475 --> 01:20:15,436 that's what she's gonna be remembered for, forever. 1481 01:20:18,188 --> 01:20:21,650 Porn really does have a yucky feel to it today. 1482 01:20:22,609 --> 01:20:26,071 Part of it, I think, that was lost is this, a certain innocence. 1483 01:20:26,155 --> 01:20:28,741 For that brief moment, porn was part of 1484 01:20:28,824 --> 01:20:30,993 discovery, curiosity, 1485 01:20:31,952 --> 01:20:33,162 change. 1486 01:20:34,038 --> 01:20:35,873 Today it's different. 1487 01:20:36,832 --> 01:20:37,875 What happened 1488 01:20:37,958 --> 01:20:40,919 was that a very cynical pornography industry 1489 01:20:41,003 --> 01:20:43,922 came in on the heels of the First Amendment 1490 01:20:44,006 --> 01:20:47,217 and began coining money hand over fist. 1491 01:20:48,719 --> 01:20:51,680 So, it changed the nature of, of pornographic sex, 1492 01:20:51,764 --> 01:20:53,515 from art to money. 1493 01:20:55,934 --> 01:20:58,896 Money is not interested in the little alleys 1494 01:20:59,188 --> 01:21:01,357 of endeavor-- Of artistic endeavor. 1495 01:21:01,815 --> 01:21:03,942 It wants the main highway. 1496 01:21:10,324 --> 01:21:12,409 It's a really dramatic fact 1497 01:21:12,493 --> 01:21:15,287 that we have gone from people staring up at a marquee 1498 01:21:15,371 --> 01:21:17,122 and thinking, "What can 'deep throat' mean? 1499 01:21:17,206 --> 01:21:18,290 Surely not what I'm thinking." 1500 01:21:19,166 --> 01:21:22,461 To kids who don't consider it sex. 1501 01:21:31,428 --> 01:21:34,765 They perverted it instead of improving it. 1502 01:21:36,141 --> 01:21:38,477 They took a beautiful thing that God gave mankind, 1503 01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:41,480 and they perverted it. And the results are obvious. 1504 01:21:41,563 --> 01:21:43,065 All you have to do is look around. 1505 01:21:49,571 --> 01:21:51,615 Deep Throat's legacy goes beyond 1506 01:21:51,698 --> 01:21:54,952 the sexually saturated culture that surrounds us today 1507 01:21:55,035 --> 01:21:57,955 and reaches back to the beginnings of a culture war 1508 01:21:58,038 --> 01:22:00,499 that divides us as never before. 1509 01:22:13,929 --> 01:22:16,765 Deep Throat was less about the joys of oral sex 1510 01:22:16,849 --> 01:22:20,018 than it was about the freedom to speak out against shame 1511 01:22:20,102 --> 01:22:21,687 and hypocrisy. 1512 01:22:22,438 --> 01:22:25,190 The FCC has fined 169 stations to pay... 1513 01:22:25,274 --> 01:22:27,401 Congress is also cracking down... 1514 01:22:27,484 --> 01:22:29,319 Three Supreme Court justices 1515 01:22:29,403 --> 01:22:32,239 are expected to retire over the next four years. 1516 01:22:32,322 --> 01:22:34,491 Each of these 169... 1517 01:22:38,787 --> 01:22:42,541 Today, there are people in the Department of Justice 1518 01:22:42,624 --> 01:22:46,295 in high places, sympathetic with obscenity laws. 1519 01:22:47,087 --> 01:22:48,797 I think today 1520 01:22:49,631 --> 01:22:52,176 the climate is even more ripe 1521 01:22:52,468 --> 01:22:55,304 for vigorous enforcement of obscenity laws. 1522 01:22:57,139 --> 01:22:59,600 Now if we could get these terrorists to go away 1523 01:23:00,851 --> 01:23:03,145 and quit taking up so much time of the, 1524 01:23:03,228 --> 01:23:04,646 uh, of the Department of Justice... 1525 01:23:09,943 --> 01:23:11,028 All right? 1526 01:23:11,111 --> 01:23:12,237 Thank you. 1527 01:23:12,321 --> 01:23:13,614 You're welcome. 1528 01:23:39,014 --> 01:23:43,018 ♪ The changing of sunlight ♪ 1529 01:23:44,353 --> 01:23:46,230 ♪ To moonlight ♪ 1530 01:23:46,313 --> 01:23:49,274 ♪ Reflections of my life ♪ 1531 01:23:51,485 --> 01:23:54,947 ♪ Oh, how they fill my eyes ♪ 1532 01:24:00,035 --> 01:24:01,995 ♪ The greetings ♪ 1533 01:24:02,579 --> 01:24:06,667 ♪ Of people in trouble ♪ 1534 01:24:07,167 --> 01:24:10,504 ♪ Reflections of my life ♪ 1535 01:24:12,256 --> 01:24:15,842 ♪ Oh, how they fill my mind ♪ 1536 01:24:20,305 --> 01:24:23,392 ♪ All my sorrows ♪ 1537 01:24:25,227 --> 01:24:28,605 ♪ Sad tomorrows ♪ 1538 01:24:30,399 --> 01:24:33,485 ♪ Take me back ♪ 1539 01:24:33,694 --> 01:24:36,697 ♪ To my own home ♪ 1540 01:24:40,576 --> 01:24:45,455 ♪ All my cryings All my cryings ♪ 1541 01:24:45,706 --> 01:24:49,543 ♪ Feel I'm dying, dying ♪ 1542 01:24:50,752 --> 01:24:53,672 ♪ Take me back ♪ 1543 01:24:53,964 --> 01:24:56,800 ♪ To my own home ♪ 1544 01:25:00,762 --> 01:25:04,224 ♪ All my sorrows ♪ 1545 01:25:05,601 --> 01:25:08,770 ♪ Sad tomorrows ♪ 1546 01:25:09,396 --> 01:25:10,606 To this day, 1547 01:25:10,689 --> 01:25:12,858 people ask me to see Deep Throat. 1548 01:25:12,941 --> 01:25:14,776 And they all, you know... 1549 01:25:14,860 --> 01:25:16,695 When they refer to Artie, you know, 1550 01:25:16,778 --> 01:25:18,697 he has a deep throat, so. 1551 01:25:19,114 --> 01:25:21,867 They say, "You know the guy with the deep throat, you know? 1552 01:25:21,950 --> 01:25:24,286 "He's the one that did Deep Throat." 1553 01:25:24,995 --> 01:25:28,373 We always have to emphasize that we didn't do it, you know. 1554 01:25:28,457 --> 01:25:31,501 We just distributed it. Because, he wouldn't... 1555 01:25:31,585 --> 01:25:33,879 I don't think he would... Would you ever do that? 1556 01:25:33,962 --> 01:25:35,714 -I wouldn't know how. -I knew it! 1557 01:25:35,797 --> 01:25:38,634 But if you did know how, would you do it? 1558 01:25:39,384 --> 01:25:41,261 You have to think about that? 1559 01:25:41,345 --> 01:25:42,471 Hey... 1560 01:25:42,804 --> 01:25:45,807 ♪ All my sorrows ♪ 1561 01:25:45,891 --> 01:25:48,810 ♪ Sad tomorrows ♪ 1562 01:25:50,812 --> 01:25:53,482 ♪ Take me back ♪ 1563 01:25:53,940 --> 01:25:56,485 ♪ To my own home ♪ 1564 01:25:56,568 --> 01:25:58,403 Okay. Are we finished? 1565 01:26:00,697 --> 01:26:02,366 ♪ All my sorrows... ♪ 1566 01:26:03,950 --> 01:26:07,496 ♪ Now I'm gonna tell you ♪ 1567 01:26:08,246 --> 01:26:11,833 ♪ The way it has to be ♪ 1568 01:26:12,459 --> 01:26:16,505 ♪ And if you pay attention ♪ 1569 01:26:17,339 --> 01:26:20,926 ♪ I'm sure that you will see ♪ 1570 01:26:22,177 --> 01:26:25,514 ♪ Just relax your muscles ♪ 1571 01:26:26,181 --> 01:26:29,685 ♪ And once you've hit that spot ♪ 1572 01:26:31,186 --> 01:26:34,940 ♪ Keep right on pushin' ♪ 1573 01:26:35,273 --> 01:26:39,027 ♪ Then give it all you've got ♪ 1574 01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:43,907 ♪ Now we've found your tinkler ♪ 1575 01:26:44,533 --> 01:26:48,245 ♪ The solution is quite clear ♪ 1576 01:26:49,079 --> 01:26:53,250 ♪ For if we both can hit it now ♪ 1577 01:26:53,917 --> 01:26:57,629 ♪ The bells you'll surely hear ♪ 1578 01:28:13,246 --> 01:28:15,832 Helen, there's got to be more to life 1579 01:28:15,916 --> 01:28:18,210 than screwing around. 1580 01:28:22,756 --> 01:28:24,591 I mean, there should be more to sex 1581 01:28:24,674 --> 01:28:27,427 than a lot of little tingles. 1582 01:28:29,513 --> 01:28:31,973 There should be bells ringing, 1583 01:28:32,057 --> 01:28:35,435 dams bursting, bombs going off, something. 1584 01:28:42,984 --> 01:28:44,778 Find the solution. 1585 01:28:44,861 --> 01:28:45,904 Like what? 1586 01:28:45,987 --> 01:28:47,197 Like deep throat. 1587 01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:49,282 Deep throat. 1588 01:28:52,410 --> 01:28:54,913 Deep throat. 1589 01:29:01,336 --> 01:29:03,088 Dr. Young. 1590 01:29:06,383 --> 01:29:08,802 Deep throat. 1591 01:29:11,179 --> 01:29:12,222 Dr. Young 1592 01:29:12,305 --> 01:29:14,683 Deep throat. 1593 01:29:18,186 --> 01:29:20,605 Deep throat. 1594 01:29:30,448 --> 01:29:34,411 Oh, Dr. Young. 130107

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