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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,010 --> 00:00:06,440 begin well that was all very interesting 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,410 ask yourselves what is wrong with 3 00:00:10,410 --> 00:00:15,660 spending eternity in hell well I'm told 4 00:00:15,660 --> 00:00:19,830 it's rather hot there for one dr. Craig 5 00:00:19,830 --> 00:00:23,640 is not offering an alternative view of 6 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,039 morality okay the whole point of 7 00:00:26,039 --> 00:00:29,279 Christianity or so it is imagined is to 8 00:00:29,279 --> 00:00:32,009 safeguard the eternal well-being of 9 00:00:32,009 --> 00:00:36,540 human souls now happily there's 10 00:00:36,540 --> 00:00:37,710 absolutely no evidence that the 11 00:00:37,710 --> 00:00:40,440 Christian hell exists and I think we 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,210 should look at the consequences of 13 00:00:42,210 --> 00:00:44,879 believing in this framework this 14 00:00:44,879 --> 00:00:46,710 theistic framework in this world and 15 00:00:46,710 --> 00:00:49,260 what these moral underpinnings actually 16 00:00:49,260 --> 00:00:54,620 would be all right nine million children 17 00:00:54,620 --> 00:00:57,780 die every year before they reach the age 18 00:00:57,780 --> 00:01:01,469 of five a picture picture a Asian 19 00:01:01,469 --> 00:01:03,660 tsunami of the sort we saw in 2004 that 20 00:01:03,660 --> 00:01:06,810 killed a quarter of a million people one 21 00:01:06,810 --> 00:01:09,659 of those every 10 days killing children 22 00:01:09,659 --> 00:01:13,560 only under five okay it's 2024 thousand 23 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,890 children a day a thousand an hour 17 or 24 00:01:16,890 --> 00:01:18,659 so a minute that means before I can get 25 00:01:18,659 --> 00:01:21,689 to the end of this sentence some few 26 00:01:21,689 --> 00:01:23,580 children very likely will have died in 27 00:01:23,580 --> 00:01:29,220 terror and agony think I think of the 28 00:01:29,220 --> 00:01:31,500 parents of these children think of the 29 00:01:31,500 --> 00:01:33,840 fact that that most of these men and 30 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,840 women believe in God and are praying at 31 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,090 this moment for their children to be 32 00:01:39,090 --> 00:01:41,939 spared and their prayers will not be 33 00:01:41,939 --> 00:01:46,950 answered okay but according to dr. Craig 34 00:01:46,950 --> 00:01:54,479 this is all part of God's plan any God 35 00:01:54,479 --> 00:01:56,790 who would allow children by the millions 36 00:01:56,790 --> 00:01:59,369 to suffer and die in this way and their 37 00:01:59,369 --> 00:02:02,009 parents to grieve in this way either can 38 00:02:02,009 --> 00:02:04,710 do nothing to help them or doesn't care 39 00:02:04,710 --> 00:02:07,020 to he is therefore either impotent or 40 00:02:07,020 --> 00:02:10,660 evil 41 00:02:10,660 --> 00:02:14,770 and worse than that on dr. Craig's view 42 00:02:14,770 --> 00:02:16,630 most of these people many of these 43 00:02:16,630 --> 00:02:18,940 people certainly will be going to hell 44 00:02:18,940 --> 00:02:21,630 because they're praying to the wrong God 45 00:02:21,630 --> 00:02:25,570 just think about that okay through no 46 00:02:25,570 --> 00:02:27,250 fault of their own they were born into 47 00:02:27,250 --> 00:02:29,140 the wrong culture where they got the 48 00:02:29,140 --> 00:02:32,230 wrong theology and they missed the 49 00:02:32,230 --> 00:02:35,890 revelation okay they're 1.2 billion 50 00:02:35,890 --> 00:02:38,110 people in India at this moment most of 51 00:02:38,110 --> 00:02:39,910 them are Hindus most of them therefore 52 00:02:39,910 --> 00:02:44,200 polytheists in dr. Craig's universe no 53 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,960 matter how good these people are they 54 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,030 are doomed if you are if you are praying 55 00:02:49,030 --> 00:02:54,240 to the monkey god Hanuman you are doomed 56 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,820 okay you will be tortured in hell for 57 00:02:57,820 --> 00:02:59,920 eternity now is there the slightest 58 00:02:59,920 --> 00:03:03,370 evidence for this no it just says so in 59 00:03:03,370 --> 00:03:07,650 mark 9 and Matthew 13 and revelation 14 60 00:03:07,650 --> 00:03:09,790 perhaps you'll remember from the Lord of 61 00:03:09,790 --> 00:03:11,500 the Rings it says when the Elves die 62 00:03:11,500 --> 00:03:13,720 they go to Valinor but they can be 63 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,959 reborn in middle-earth I say that just 64 00:03:16,959 --> 00:03:22,060 as a point of comparison okay so God 65 00:03:22,060 --> 00:03:25,390 created the cultural isolation of the 66 00:03:25,390 --> 00:03:28,120 Hindus okay he engineered the 67 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:29,709 circumstance of their deaths in 68 00:03:29,709 --> 00:03:31,900 ignorance of Revelation and then he 69 00:03:31,900 --> 00:03:34,209 created the penalty for this ignorance 70 00:03:34,209 --> 00:03:35,980 which is an eternity of conscious 71 00:03:35,980 --> 00:03:40,900 torment in fire okay on the other hand 72 00:03:40,900 --> 00:03:43,209 on dr. Craig's account your 73 00:03:43,209 --> 00:03:45,510 run-of-the-mill serial killer in America 74 00:03:45,510 --> 00:03:49,090 okay who spent his life raping and 75 00:03:49,090 --> 00:03:52,840 torturing children need only come to God 76 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,320 come to Jesus on death row and after a 77 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,020 final meal of fried chicken he's going 78 00:03:59,020 --> 00:04:01,420 to spend an eternity in heaven after 79 00:04:01,420 --> 00:04:04,120 death okay one thing should be crystal 80 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,150 clear to you this vision of life has 81 00:04:07,150 --> 00:04:10,060 absolutely nothing to do with moral 82 00:04:10,060 --> 00:04:14,080 accountability can please notice the 83 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,780 double standard that people like dr. 84 00:04:16,780 --> 00:04:20,440 Craig used to to exonerate God from all 85 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,620 this evil okay we're told that God is 86 00:04:23,620 --> 00:04:24,520 loving and 87 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,729 and just and intrinsically good but when 88 00:04:27,729 --> 00:04:29,039 someone like myself points out the 89 00:04:29,039 --> 00:04:31,419 obvious and compelling evidence that God 90 00:04:31,419 --> 00:04:34,800 is cruel and unjust because he visits 91 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,169 suffering on innocent people of a scope 92 00:04:38,169 --> 00:04:40,060 and scale that would would embarrass the 93 00:04:40,060 --> 00:04:42,060 most ambitious psychopath 94 00:04:42,060 --> 00:04:45,270 okay we're told that God is mysterious 95 00:04:45,270 --> 00:04:49,330 okay who can understand God's will okay 96 00:04:49,330 --> 00:04:51,819 and yet this is precisely the this 97 00:04:51,819 --> 00:04:54,250 merely human understanding of God's will 98 00:04:54,250 --> 00:04:57,340 is precisely what believers use to 99 00:04:57,340 --> 00:04:58,840 establish his goodness in the first 100 00:04:58,840 --> 00:05:01,180 place if something good happens to a 101 00:05:01,180 --> 00:05:03,909 Christian some he feels some bliss while 102 00:05:03,909 --> 00:05:06,370 praying say where he sees some positive 103 00:05:06,370 --> 00:05:08,199 change in his life and we're told that 104 00:05:08,199 --> 00:05:11,259 God is good okay but when children by 105 00:05:11,259 --> 00:05:13,599 the tens of thousands are torn from 106 00:05:13,599 --> 00:05:16,050 their parents arms and drowned 107 00:05:16,050 --> 00:05:20,020 we're told that God is mysterious this 108 00:05:20,020 --> 00:05:22,770 is how you play tennis without the net 109 00:05:22,770 --> 00:05:25,120 okay and I want to suggest to you that 110 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,300 it is not only tiresome when otherwise 111 00:05:28,300 --> 00:05:30,520 intelligent people speak this way it is 112 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:35,020 morally reprehensible okay this kind of 113 00:05:35,020 --> 00:05:36,969 faith is it really is the perfection of 114 00:05:36,969 --> 00:05:41,009 narcissism God loves me don't you know 115 00:05:41,009 --> 00:05:45,849 he cured me of my eczema he makes me 116 00:05:45,849 --> 00:05:48,180 feel so good while singing in church and 117 00:05:48,180 --> 00:05:50,830 just when we had given up hope he found 118 00:05:50,830 --> 00:05:52,449 a banker who was willing to reduce my 119 00:05:52,449 --> 00:05:55,840 mother's mortgage okay given all the all 120 00:05:55,840 --> 00:05:57,279 that this god of yours does not 121 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:01,270 accomplish in the lives of others given 122 00:06:01,270 --> 00:06:03,009 given the the misery that's being 123 00:06:03,009 --> 00:06:05,409 imposed on some helpless child at this 124 00:06:05,409 --> 00:06:10,110 instant this kind of faith is obscene 125 00:06:10,110 --> 00:06:12,729 okay this to think in this way is to 126 00:06:12,729 --> 00:06:15,909 fail to reason honestly or to care 127 00:06:15,909 --> 00:06:17,949 sufficiently about the suffering of 128 00:06:17,949 --> 00:06:22,240 other human beings and if God is good 129 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,090 and loving and just and kind and he 130 00:06:25,090 --> 00:06:26,889 wanted to guide us morally with a book 131 00:06:26,889 --> 00:06:29,849 why give us a book that supports slavery 132 00:06:29,849 --> 00:06:32,740 why give us a book that it monitors us 133 00:06:32,740 --> 00:06:35,979 to kill people for imaginary crimes like 134 00:06:35,979 --> 00:06:38,160 witchcraft 135 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,390 now of course there's a way of not 136 00:06:40,390 --> 00:06:42,810 taking these questions to heart 137 00:06:42,810 --> 00:06:45,340 according to dr. Craig's divine command 138 00:06:45,340 --> 00:06:48,640 theory God is not bound by moral duties 139 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,260 God doesn't have to be good whatever he 140 00:06:50,260 --> 00:06:52,240 commands is good so when he commands 141 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,910 that the Israelites to slaughter the 142 00:06:54,910 --> 00:06:57,010 Amalekites that behavior becomes 143 00:06:57,010 --> 00:06:58,960 intrinsically good because he commanded 144 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,200 it okay well here we're being offered 145 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,120 I'm glad he raised the issue of 146 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,740 psychopathy we're being offered a 147 00:07:05,740 --> 00:07:08,620 psychopathic and psychotic moral 148 00:07:08,620 --> 00:07:10,300 attitude it's psychotic because this is 149 00:07:10,300 --> 00:07:11,980 completely delusional there's no reason 150 00:07:11,980 --> 00:07:14,280 to believe that we live in a universe 151 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:19,510 ruled by an invisible monster Yahweh but 152 00:07:19,510 --> 00:07:23,140 it is it is psychopathic because this is 153 00:07:23,140 --> 00:07:25,960 a total detachment from from the 154 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:27,790 well-being of human beings it this so 155 00:07:27,790 --> 00:07:30,160 easily rationalizes the slaughter of 156 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:35,560 children okay just that just think about 157 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,020 the Muslims at this moment who are 158 00:07:38,020 --> 00:07:41,170 blowing themselves up convinced that 159 00:07:41,170 --> 00:07:43,270 they are agents of God's will there is 160 00:07:43,270 --> 00:07:46,120 absolutely nothing that dr. Craig can 161 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,940 say against their behavior in moral 162 00:07:48,940 --> 00:07:51,730 terms apart from his own faith-based 163 00:07:51,730 --> 00:07:53,740 claim that they're praying to the wrong 164 00:07:53,740 --> 00:07:56,980 God if they had the right God what they 165 00:07:56,980 --> 00:08:00,760 were doing would be good on divine 166 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,700 command theory now I'm obviously not 167 00:08:03,700 --> 00:08:05,560 saying that all the dr. Craig or all 168 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,660 religious people are psychopaths and 169 00:08:07,660 --> 00:08:09,670 psychotics but this to me is that is the 170 00:08:09,670 --> 00:08:12,340 true horror of religion it allows 171 00:08:12,340 --> 00:08:15,580 perfectly decent and sane people to 172 00:08:15,580 --> 00:08:18,640 believe by the billions what only 173 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,580 lunatics could believe on their own if 174 00:08:21,580 --> 00:08:23,710 you wake up tomorrow morning thinking 175 00:08:23,710 --> 00:08:25,540 that's saying a few Latin words over 176 00:08:25,540 --> 00:08:27,700 your pancakes is going to turn them into 177 00:08:27,700 --> 00:08:30,700 the body of Elvis Presley okay you have 178 00:08:30,700 --> 00:08:33,880 lost your mind okay but if you think 179 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,440 more or less the same thing about a 180 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,510 cracker and the body of Jesus you're 181 00:08:37,510 --> 00:08:42,639 just a Catholic 182 00:08:42,639 --> 00:08:46,299 and I'm not the first person to notice 183 00:08:46,299 --> 00:08:49,249 that it's a it's a very strange sort of 184 00:08:49,249 --> 00:08:51,109 loving God who would make salvation 185 00:08:51,109 --> 00:08:54,109 depend on believing in him on bad 186 00:08:54,109 --> 00:09:00,529 evidence okay it's it's I mean if you 187 00:09:00,529 --> 00:09:02,600 live 2,000 years ago there was evidence 188 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,100 galore and he was just performing 189 00:09:04,100 --> 00:09:05,929 miracles but apparently he got tired of 190 00:09:05,929 --> 00:09:09,499 being so helpful and so now we all 191 00:09:09,499 --> 00:09:12,169 inherit this very heavy burden of the 192 00:09:12,169 --> 00:09:15,019 doctrines implausibility and and and and 193 00:09:15,019 --> 00:09:17,809 the effort to square it with what we now 194 00:09:17,809 --> 00:09:19,850 know about the cosmos and we and what we 195 00:09:19,850 --> 00:09:21,709 know about the all-too-human origins of 196 00:09:21,709 --> 00:09:23,059 scripture becomes more and more 197 00:09:23,059 --> 00:09:27,259 difficult and it's not just the generic 198 00:09:27,259 --> 00:09:29,480 God that dr. Craig is recommending it is 199 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,759 God the Father and Jesus the son 200 00:09:31,759 --> 00:09:34,429 okay Christianity on dr. Craig's account 201 00:09:34,429 --> 00:09:37,419 is the true moral wealth of the world 202 00:09:37,419 --> 00:09:40,939 well I hate to break it to you here at 203 00:09:40,939 --> 00:09:45,079 Notre Dame but Christianity is a cult of 204 00:09:45,079 --> 00:09:49,100 human sacrifice Christianity is not a 205 00:09:49,100 --> 00:09:52,429 religion that sell that repute er 206 00:09:52,429 --> 00:09:54,559 repudiates human sacrifice it is a 207 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,919 religion that celebrates a single human 208 00:09:57,919 --> 00:09:59,799 sacrifice as though it were effective 209 00:09:59,799 --> 00:10:02,089 God so loved the world that He gave His 210 00:10:02,089 --> 00:10:04,549 only Son John 3:16 211 00:10:04,549 --> 00:10:07,910 the idea is that Jesus suffered the 212 00:10:07,910 --> 00:10:10,160 crucifixion so that none needs suffer 213 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,339 hell except those those billions in 214 00:10:13,339 --> 00:10:15,860 India and billions like them throughout 215 00:10:15,860 --> 00:10:20,679 history okay this is this is this is 216 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,100 astride this doctrine is astride a 217 00:10:24,100 --> 00:10:27,049 contemptible history of scientific 218 00:10:27,049 --> 00:10:28,699 ignorance and religious barbarism we 219 00:10:28,699 --> 00:10:31,220 come from people who used to bury 220 00:10:31,220 --> 00:10:33,709 children in under the foundations of new 221 00:10:33,709 --> 00:10:35,839 buildings as offerings to their 222 00:10:35,839 --> 00:10:38,209 imaginary gods if we just think about 223 00:10:38,209 --> 00:10:41,509 that they're in vast numbers of 224 00:10:41,509 --> 00:10:44,569 societies people would bury children in 225 00:10:44,569 --> 00:10:47,660 postholes people like ourselves thinking 226 00:10:47,660 --> 00:10:49,879 that this would prevent an invisible 227 00:10:49,879 --> 00:10:53,240 being from knocking down their buildings 228 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,560 these are the sorts of people who wrote 229 00:10:55,560 --> 00:11:03,830 the Bible if there is a a less moral 230 00:11:03,830 --> 00:11:07,350 moral framework than the one dr. Craig 231 00:11:07,350 --> 00:11:21,510 is proposing I haven't heard of it 232 00:11:21,510 --> 00:11:23,000 you17537

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