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what's the One for the Money

before the show

you getting ready now go get going gives

me great pleasure to be here tonight to

induct Paul McCartney into the Rock and

Roll Hall of Fame it's four decades now

since the birth of The Beatles but the

impact the fam 4 made on our culture is

still as strong as ever a new generation

of fans made the compilation of hits

number one the fastest selling of all it

is McCartney who tops the bill at the

biggest benefit concerts a year is not

allowed to pass without support picking

up an award so I want to say to you all

thank you very very much and uh this

one's for you baby

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but despite all his Fame and all of his

achievements the full extent of

McCartney's contribution to our culture

could well be actually underrated it's

because the Specter of John Lennon is a

hard one to shake off and there's a

conventional way of looking at the

Beatles Story that says John was the

innovator Paul acute songsmith and

there's bad blood between the two the

truth is very different

there was a timing you know timing is of

the essence and people look at its own

post-war the baby boom we were ready to

show off our parents had all been a bit

inhibited by the war it's going to

inhibit you we didn't have any of that

we'd had none of that shadow over us so

we were like ready to rock

as everyone knows the birth of The

Beatles was in Liverpool but the real

birth of The Beatles music was in

hamburger

Germany that the sound that singled them

out from the hundreds of other

merseyside groups was created in the

early days

they were for instance in Hamburg with

old prostitutes there all girls every

night but was taking Credit in all these

pills like amphetamines and things that

was getting drunk all the time and

rarely seeded from the seediest place

probably in Europe the sandpali District

of Hamburg

the decision to go to Hamburg was taken

by the man credited as giving away the

Beatles their first manager Alan

Williams the move to Hamburg came about

through the Jacaranda and I was managing

The Beatles then so that's how the

Beatles came to play in the basement we

had no stage in the Jacaranda they just

stood in the corner and next minute

George came up and said can we borrow

the brush and have you got a mop and so

I went down you know when we started to

play and you know what they wanted them

up in the Broomfield they hadn't even

got mic stands and these girls were

sitting there all night with the mics

tied to the end of the broomstick and

the mob that's how poor they were in

those days I got the phone call around

about August 1960.

and it was from Paul Paul made the

initial approach and it was basically

peace we've had the officer go to

Germany

would you be interested we took the

chance and we drove over to Hamburg we

stopped at the famous War Cemetery in

Arnhem and we had our photograph taken

on the cenotaph there

and it's on the Senate Office says their

names liveth forevermore and this was

the first time the lads had gone to

their professional engagement it wasn't

an adventure it was a

it was a complete change in life

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through the back door

so

Jonathan was the first in Georgia

followed by

those three got the palatial Suite they

got the middle room with the electric

light bulb the camp beds right Paul and

I got the black hole to Calcutta you

know which would really do I think there

must have been concrete bunkers so I

think the other thing about Hamburg was

that um it was your first really

professional

thing because you actually had to

attract people in I always think that

was one of the most important things you

we'd be playing and there'd be hardly

anyone in the club and you'd see a

couple of sort of young people like a

young couple just look in and they'd

first of all look at the price of the

beer

and you'd sort of see him go now and

they go out so I mean we started to know

God you know the bee is too expensive

and so when they ducked in next time

what I say yo come on yeah you know

really come on in

the Fab Five John Paul George Stewart

and Pete played in the club for up to

eight hours at a stretch holding their

music and adjusting the power structure

of the band McCartney was fiercely

ambitious

I remember going over to Hamburg and

seeing Stuart circle of playing on stage

and when I looked at his lead it was out

Paul McCart used to pull his lead out

and the Poland would be playing so I

realized then your days are numbered you

know and it sure was a chance meeting

with art student Klaus Foreman changed

the beetle style but more importantly it

changed Paul's attitude it exposed him

to a group of people with a lifestyle

completely different his own background

the first thing was the music because I

heard it through the window when I was

out just a seller window you look down

and you just hear their music and the

second thing was the way they

actually acted on stage which was

amazing just amazing

possibilities

we learned a lot of our skills

how to be sort of tough and how to play

and how to sing a lot so your voice

never went because you know we sometimes

had to play a lot of hours in Hamburg

and you kind of got used to it you just

everything toughened up and you go back

to England and a couple of hours was

like nothing it was like dossing around

you two hours oh thank you you know we

were used to more like eight or

something you know

um and it meant also that we had a big

repertoire they were jumping up like

crazy like really making lots of things

happen on stage laughing and screaming

they got a little bit out of control

they had competitions who could could

drink a whole crate of beer and who

would stand longest on stage before he

falls asleep the best I think was

falling asleep playing drums once we'd

been just Liverpool guys then we were

Liverpool guys set free in Hamburg

and with our crocodile mock cardboard

actually crocodile looking pointed shoes

and uh it was so it was very much still

to the Liverpool guys but we met up with

uh Klaus Astrid Jurgen

who the main three and um

we couldn't believe their look it was

like you know I say there used to be

people coming in the club would be

enticing them in but when these people

came in it was like

but we were like wow you know they look

so cool and they had the hair sort of

down a little bit like a Beatles style

Astrid had this blonde thing and then

she was a very thin girl and had this

sort of black and the it's very it's not

great and they all kind of wore black a

lot and they were sort of student-y

which we liked we thought it was a

really cool look rather than just Ted's

or rockers or bikers the student he

looks like a very different look

European really cool look so we started

to

um become very enamored of them and the

look and I think it had a big effect on

us I know it had a big effect on us

who's downstairs in the basement with a

toilet woman and he's buying off her

pepper pills like you know about the

hearts those sort of things

and they played all night and even the

bosses came up hey why don't you take

some of those and you feel much better

and you feel happy come on

with their Bohemian lifestyle and devil

may care attitude it was only a matter

of time before the Beatles ran into

trouble with the Hamburg authorities

McCartney and best were arrested for

starting a small fire in their lodgings

you know you're in deep sleep

these you know German gorillas come

along and basically sort of turn around

and say you know McCartney and best bank

you know

School drag down the stairs all the way

down the top 10. and you know

interrogated at the back of the you know

the police station

I always remember looking at Paul's face

I'm certain he must have been looking at

mine and there was this look of horror

on our faces you know as the gates of

the jail opened up

you know and it was like my God the

Locking us away and no one will see a

McCartney and best ever more like you

know

the Hamburg episode was Central to The

Beatles Story it changed the pecking

order of the group Stuart Sutcliffe

likes to make on his liking stay behind

in Germany while the others came back

well merseyside for their Newfound

confidence and power within weeks of

their return the Beatles were no longer

bottom of the pilot Liverpool the

Crown's reaction to the band at one

seminal concert had the first

flickerings of beetle Mania

the music started

and the whole

Dance Floor just moved basically down

to the front of the stage

and you stood there mesmerized you know

and then all of a sudden they were just

like these screams from the girls in the

audience you know

a couple of fellas as well but mostly

girls

Hamburg had given Lennon and McCartney's

music its foundation now with Brian

Epstein as manager what it seemed a

hobby and now looked like becoming a

career the Cameron's DJ Bob willack

could tell that no one realized this

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he was determined his songs would emerge

from it and indeed I was given a list of

99 songs that they used to feature at

the cavern and only about half a dozen

of them were Beatles songs and most of

them were by Paul McCartney

now when Brian Epstein took them over he

didn't want them to have all this

leather gear or be rough what Epstein

was doing in some ways was effectively

changing it from John Lennon's group

into Paul McCartney's group and John

Lennon always resented this when people

were thinking oh oh I always preferred

the Styles you know the Beatles were the

Liverpool mop tops but rarely Lennon's

group were a rough Rowdy bunch and they

were great we all had the new jacket

with little sort of collar and hats and

the long overcoats and the things so we

did we looked like a group it's actually

something I'd seen years before at

Butlins

and I'd always thought God it's so cool

that when you see

four people dressed alike this it's like

a uniform it's like the effect of seeing

sort of

Sailors have just got off a boat or

something there's just something the

camaraderie media that comes across

after Hamburg The Beatles resume their

local digging in Liverpool with

inventions but this Spurt of recognition

from their home fans Harvin McCann is

resolved to get to the top even if it

meant that not everyone would make the

journey

we had big breasts or drama uh for

Hamburg and everything

but when we went to do a record deal

George Martin wasn't that impressed with

Pete it was sad really you know but

there were just little differences

little subtle differences and we'd seen

Ringo and we really admired Ringo we we

actually thought ringer was the best

drummer in Liverpool and then the first

night we played with Durango just

something clicked you know we're all

like looking back and going we're all

looking at each other go oh something's

happening and it was you know it was

like just that was the first little germ

kicking in

foreign

Beatles went on to conquer the world

McCartney though never forgot his roots

the world's press enjoying the Liverpool

actions but the marks left by merseyside

and far deeper than that when we think

of John and Paul as the two basic men of

The Beatles were sort of right at the

beginning and and people think of the

aggressive John Lennon and the working

class here and everything in fact it was

Paul who had the sort of existence in

the council Flats thing with moving from

Council premises to council premises

while a sort of John had this middle

class upbringing nice place in their

menlove Avenue with Garden front and

back and a beautiful sort of suburban

type setting it was really Paul it was

the Working Class Hero not John you know

an actual fact I think the other thing

in truth you know that I think people

forget is we weren't that well off so

like anyone you wanted to make money so

to us there was suddenly this other

Escape because we weren't very good at

football didn't want to go and see I

didn't want to join the Army

um

so it became another Escape Route and a

kind of glamorous one you know so we

just thought we'll have a go at it

Paul's mother had died when he was about

14. now he's terribly vulnerable as

anyone is at that age and Jim uh

McCartney had to be a father and a

mother to those two Lads that Paul and

his younger brother

it was therefore inevitable that in many

people's minds The Beatles became

another family for McCartney and in

Lenin he found a soul mate with a common

Bond

it was 1956 and it was the Wilton fate

and John was playing as the quarryman

Quarrymen from his school Corey Bank

but that was the day that Paul

turned up first of all I met John at the

Village feed and I thought he was a bit

of a slob he was a you know boozy breath

yeah you're all right I thought oh yeah

oh dear you know he's a bit

not very cool but um I like this music

and I liked his attitude and stuff so I

got to like him and I always looked at

him I think Paul was sort of taken with

John and overall by him at the same time

and in fact he's since said that but he

didn't know if he could keep up with

this fellow

when they practiced they practiced in

whichever house would have them at the

time so it was either our house or

Mimi's house or false Lynn Road which

was Paul's house whoever wasn't in

or whichever bathroom was empty

and

um my mother

died in 1958

and one of the things that when Paul was

coming that she was sad about was that

Paul had lost his mother and I remember

her saying how sad how sad that Poor

Boy's lost his mother how awful and he

act with us a lot

and it was just total irony that she

died herself the next year

they had the common bond in losing their

mothers very much

Lennon and McCartney's closeness was

echoed in everything they did in the

early days of The Beatles Global success

they proved an Unstoppable double Act

we really were each other's support all

the way through the Beatles career

um I always say we were we were the four

corners of a square

and you need you know without one of

those Corners it collapses and we were

really for good Corners like you said

earlier you couldn't have hoped for for

better Corners you know more would help

for more support

in every way you know sort of morally

artistically

lovingly there was a lot of everything

in in that square you know

first it was Liverpool then England and

then the world as the Beatles took

America by storm for Paul it was the

realization of a dream

yeah it was the big one you know America

I was it was the place we were in awe of

and I think it's a place

most people are still in order of the

event that transformed The Beatles into

the planet's first world Superstars was

an historic appearance on the Ed

Sullivan Show it was really big it was

the biggest biggest thing we'd ever done

it was nerve-wracking kind of thing

although looking at it it doesn't look

like we're at least a bit nervous my dad

always used to say that I said come we

did this TV so we're so nervous he said

I couldn't tell you know I could never

tell and I'm looking at it now I see

what he meant but we were pretty nervous

especially when the floor manager came

up just before we went off before the

curtains opened because it's like a live

show

um and he said

there's 70 million people watching or

something I I'm not even sure if you

knew it was 7073 in the end but he said

something like there's 20 million people

watching you good luck guys

um but we held it together you know we'd

had enough practice Hamburg we've done

enough gigs we knew we couldn't blow it

I mean this is one time we couldn't blow

it and I had to sing yesterday solo with

a string quarter you know but we did it

we just held it together those big

occasions we kind of rose to and then

afterwards people started saying you

know do you know how many people watched

that and it's got some sort of record I

think I still I think it still held

Liverpool was too small by now for the

Beatles And so they moved to London the

city gave the group the platform they

needed to fulfill their potential and it

also gave Paul McCartney a new Arena to

explore his growing artistic awareness

Paul he preferred to mix in with the

fact that Jane Asher had which was more

the kind of legitimate theater crowd the

fashionable people he enjoyed theatrical

first nights or theatrical parties

mixing with artists in fact not not of

the theater but artist artists he really

wanted to know a wider range of things

about the Arts

John was a tear away in an avant-garde

person but in a way he was kind of

educated into it by Paul

because in the early days you know when

John was married to sin

uh he was fixed up with a very nice

house in weybridge and stockbroker belt

he used to go home to the wife

you know and it was a fairly

conventional existence while Paul was

staying in town

and went to live with a family the Asher

family in wimpole Street and he was at

the center of London London art

coming back to London it was in full

swing and all the artists were there and

if you as you say I lived with the ashes

and those was a really nice free

household very intelligent people kind

of quite upper class for me

um but I loved it I loved to you know

the way they'd like play games at dinner

it was all very intelligent you know so

you had to really I just loved it but I

do you know it seemed really cool for me

and they had very organized lives it was

very sort of sophisticated lives uh you

know James an actress so she'd be off in

the morning doing a go see her agent

doing a lunch with someone in an

audition or rehearsals and all that her

dad was a doctor

so he'd be seeing patients or going to

the hospital so and so on so mum was an

oboe teacher so she'd be

teaching or doing this that and the

other they had packed days I'd never

known anyone who started at eight and

like finished at like nine and they just

knew what they were going to do all the

time so it was good for me I kind of

helped me organize get a bit of a

structure I imagine our household may

have been somewhat different from his I

mean it it may be too easy to emphasize

what cultural differences I mean I

suppose at the time that far back they

would have been perceived as class

differences that you don't say that

anymore now at that time the rock and

roll scene and the and the avant-garde

scene I think got somewhat fascinated

with each other

um everyone was fascinated by The

Beatles of course because they were so

infinitely talented and glamorous and

you know there was nobody who didn't

want to meet the Beatles that's what

made it all so interesting that from the

royal family to the most avant-garde

American Artist everybody wanted to meet

them

um but I think that the two Wells did

did interweave to some extent and Paul I

think more than any of the other Beatles

was particularly interested in those

aspects of things he took aboard some of

the ideas that he got from Reading

William Burroughs and stuff and or from

listening to avalgarde music or being

mad aware of stockhausen and stuff which

he was

um I think he took some of those ideas

on board and some of the more

avant-garde aspects of The Beatles music

clearly stemmed from some from some of

that with Jane I was then exposed to the

National Theater and you know with other

mates of mine outside of that family

then I started to go to art galleries

which are all there in London

and develop friendships with artists of

all kinds music painting

kinetic art all sorts of things writers

poets I think Paul McCartney was always

wanting to stretch himself always

wanting to widen the horizons he was he

was the one who was always coming up

with ideas and Concepts every time there

was an album to be done he'd be

sketching and trying to do what the

album covers would be like and this and

that he was the very first one to get

involved in avant-garde films and he

made a couple he even got the director

Antonio to have a look at his films and

things but he was into all that when he

encouraged the Indica Bookshop he even

designed their paper

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I'm definitely inspired by like a

like that sort of feeling I want to hold

your hand and she loves you it's right

in that area and uh they did definitely

influence my songwriting right away we

went to seeing Hard Day's Night

initially because we were mad about the

Beatles at that point we were just

totally in love with the sound and I was

hearing folk music chord changes in the

in the songs and I was going this is

great stuff I love this and um some of

the other folk singers I knew weren't

getting it they were going ah that you

know it's a bubble gum rock and roll

stuff and I was going no no there's

something here there's something really

good here you know this is this is some

real music and I started taking it apart

for them saying like look they're fourth

and fifth harmonies you know and the

chord changes listen to these passing

chords like they're doing like

really cool passing course I said no

this is really good stuff and and

gradually some of them got it you know

and then I went out to the West Coast

and we got the birds together based

around it

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the influence on the west coast went

full circle Tomorrow Never Knows His

held up as being a classic example of

Lenin's experimentation but its most

distinctive sound the tape Loops are all

macarthurs

it was John's song that he'd done after

having read Timothy Leary's

take on Tibetan Book of the Dead and so

it's very far out you know it was very

poetic very ancient and trippy I did

suggest that for the solo because the

song was so trippy that we tried this

tape Loop thing I'd been experimenting

so I'd be listening to a lot of radio

going to a lot of weird concerts not

weird actually but it could be said to

be weird of um Luciano Barrio people

like this electronic music Tomorrow

Never Knows I brought plastic bag full

in of these loops and then we made some

up in the studio and had them all on

machines we got machines from all the

other Studios borrowed them all fed them

all through the desk and then just mixed

them like a modern remix

you know just brought the phases and cut

them out and

so it's it was a different sound in Solo

it's a suit of the song You Know

Paul's induction into San Francisco live

left a marked effect more than Lennon

McCartney embraced the idea of the

alternative culture hanging out and hit

Ashbury dropping acid and jamming with

the Jefferson Airplane he was just doing

his thing trying to expand down and like

everybody else had heard of San

Francisco which was blossoming and

blooming at that time with all the stuff

that uh probably later turned up on

Sergeant Pepper in its own way and I

think McCartney as mellow as his

reputation may be uh was an

extraordinary Communicator with music

and made emotional moments that that if

that related and reflected maybe more

importantly all of our Lives they made

rock and roll art

they made it really high art and they

were the ones who opened it up and took

us to this next level and there have

been very few people who even come close

to what they achieved and in the short

period of time that they recorded and

worked the the body of work that they

created is the most important body of

work

that's been created in the 20th century

for popular culture and we'll be here

for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds

of years

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McCartney's craziest collaboration was

with Brian Wilson Paul had always

admired The Beach Boys when they met he

discovered Brian was now playing piano

in a sand pit and filling the studio

with vegetables

he came in with Derek Taylor to a studio

that we were in one night in 1967.

and uh

it was on that night that he played for

my wife and I she's leaving home my wife

cried and everything was much of Tears

you know but he when he walked in he had

this beautiful patent leather shoes red

patent leather shoes in a white suit he

looks so cool you know and we said you

want some vegetables we were cutting a

song called vegetables we were all

chewing on vegetables just to get the

mood and he did and he started chewing

on a carrot

vegetables

I don't know man I don't know it might

have been substances involved it might

have happened I don't know

um I don't remember it all I must say

particularly some of those dark nights

in La

um you know you just sometimes fall out

of a car into a room it would be very

dark and I'm not sure if I remember it I

did visit a couple of their sessions but

I don't remember eating vegetables I'm

sure I might have Melodies do I like his

Melodies yeah I love his Melodies are

you kidding I think he was versatile I

think he would start out one day he

might go and say yeah I like that then

the next thing I go I think what he does

is he threw a whole bunch of different

kinds of songs at you and we're supposed

to figure out where they're all coming

from you know I mean he was very very

versatile as a singer and a songwriter

I think they were all

um incredibly inquisitive about what

could be done they were always coming to

me Paul in particular saying what new

sounds going to give us what instruments

don't we know about

and of course he'd heard something over

on a television show I think he'd seen

or maybe a radio I can't remember it was

a Brandenburg Concerto and he'd heard

this very high trumpet sound which Bach

used about bark trumpet

and he came to me and said great sound

okay could we use it

yeah sure you can if you want to

and that led to pennile

1966 The Beatles decided to give up

touring the Candlestick Park in

California was their last ever show

McCartney decided that something was

needed to fill that void

and we've got federal return we were

losing our music and we were getting

more and more Fame but we were losing

our souls really and after a famous

thing in America we'd all got really

pissed off

um we just quietly said to ourselves you

know we're not we want to won't tell

anyone but we'll let's get in the studio

we'll make a record we'll send that out

it'd be the same people will be able to

hear what we're up to

um so Sergeant Pepper became that it's

like our message it was our you know our

postcard

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he had been setting up this idea for

Magical yesterday which was going to be

a family ahead of its time Progressive

comedy film zany comedy film a kind of

an update on the goons or whatever and

it was mostly Paul's idea Paul had

planned it all out and just as all of

this was coming towards fruition Brian

Epstein died at the end of August in

1967. we certainly didn't have a manager

with the death of Brian Epstein and

Brian was a father figure

there was that security behind us when

he died there was an insecurity there

big hole and so we started talking about

getting Mr X giant film and we wanted

like a manager or a business manager or

someone who could take care of that and

in the end we thought no we better do it

ourselves

within days Paul was fully into the

um organizing of the shooting of budget

mystery 2. a lot of people thought that

this was him being rather callous

scarcely waiting for Brian's funeral

before Gathering The Beatles together

for this in fact he had quite serious

motives for doing so on the one hand he

genuinely feared that if he didn't kind

of put them to work very quickly that

they might never work again as a a band

making it was great it was in this sort

of artistic let's see if we can make a

film thing we literally just uh sat

around talked a few things Drew I always

used to draw a circle and divide it up

and put bits here and move them around

Magical Mystery Tour was very much a

pull uh

Enterprise right you know he called me

up and he said I've got an idea I want

to make a film and he'd do this cake on

a piece of paper you know he's made and

he said right that one can be sold so

that one can be sworn so that one can be

so and so and we're going to have a

genome old days pensioners on the coach

uh some underprivileged children

possibly with their mums and dads he

said well we'll make it a genuine coach

trip we just got a bus which was the

magical Mysterio bus got it painted and

just set off and just said okay and I

would have meetings in the evening it

was kind of my responsibility really

because I was very much into doing that

and I so I just took the responsibility

I'd have meetings in the evening with

the camera guys so say okay now what did

you think you got today well we got some

great shots okay tomorrow let's do this

and we'll try and do this

um

and we just made it up as we went along

which you know it looks like but it has

great freedom and what I like now is

that like you said there is a

re-evaluation it's it's okay now and

people like Spielberg were looking at it

in film School

so you know I like to think that that it

was it was there and it showed you how

free you could be it didn't necessarily

necessarily show you how to make a good

film but it showed you you could be free

I think that's a big part of you

foreign

God influences on Magical Mystery Tour

The Beatles became our Pathfinders in

other ways during the 60s Paul became

something of a cultural Magpie picking

and mixing from the rich offerings that

surrounded him

no Adventure captured the media's

attention more than his brush with

Transcendental Meditation and the

so-called giggling Guru the marui

shiyoki

so we went off we first of all went off

to Bangor and Wales where he had a

little study of course and then we

eventually went off to rishikesh and the

Himalayas foothills of the Himalayas

when I arrived there

I found that we'd all brought our

guitars and that we needed a break Ringo

had some tablets brought in George

brought in some Indian instruments and

we'd spend most of the evenings sitting

around this became two sets of songs I

wrote heard a dirty man album and they

wrote The White Album this song

Blackbird may have come out of the

finger styles that we were all playing

and I was teaching John in Paul

the song seemed to come out

with a wistful longing around that

period because we were in this very

artistic environment meeting various

people drugs came in you know first of

all pot really and

um we'd never done anything like that we

were just you know Northern drinkers but

um various friends of ours were into

this and that you know so because we

liked the friends so much and we kind of

trusted them we thought well it can't be

that bad or whatever you know we we got

into it and um

it was it was liberating and it was a

movement anyway it was like you know

Vietnam was going on so so many of our

friends were American and were getting

killed out there so the the peace

movement was big at the time because it

was a real

immediate need for it so it was all that

kind of thing and it all mixed in with

the whole culture they changed the

culture it just became something else

um and we readily took part in it and

enjoyed it you know it was good for our

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in 1969 another major influence on Paul

became evident came from left field and

a liberal Highly Educated background the

Eastman family

it was a relationship which in its early

stages

we had seen all a number of short-term

relationships

during and immediately after he's long

and unfair with no Jane Russia but Lindy

Smith wasn't seen as being his long-term

partner at all I mean he actually proved

to us all that we were the ones that

were wrong and she was right for him and

he was right for her

oh what's it feel like we married at

last it feels fine thank you what are

you gonna do now is it going to change

your life much do you think I don't know

really I've never been married before

wedding was about an hour late starting

we've all got a bit worried what

happened we were waiting for my brother

who was going to be best man like

and uh he was on British Railways so

he's a bit delayed because of the

weather and stuff not a very nice day

for you getting away for a honeymoon

maybe we haven't talked about it yet you

know it's just uh it's you know we

haven't really made any plans for

Hollywood I think we will in a few days

McCartney congratulations what does it

feel like

one of the most eligible eventually

it feels great to be married

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Linda and I used to say our greatest

achievement was our children you know

and looking at our other achievements as

quite a strong statement we felt we

wanted them to have their feet on the

ground

so that they wouldn't be sort of spoiled

rich kids so we did work at it a lot

Linda took Paul to New York they lived

in a small apartment on the Upper East

Side the city became Paul's second home

and he was introduced to the Eastman's

clients like artist William de kooning

and poet Alan Ginsburg Linda had a

little apartment in uh New York on

Lexington and 83rd which was a cool

little residential area and

um

she and I used to just walk around New

York a lot

and I had like a big beard and um army

surplus sort of old Vietnam thing with a

sergeant stripes and stuff so I kind of

looked like the guy who's gonna mug you

so it didn't look like Beetle Paul at

all and it was a lot of um material for

music too I had a song called she came

in through the bathroom window and um I

needed a verse for that I was looking

for verses when we were in the back of a

New York taxi cab and I just looked up

and they have those little signs that

tells you who the cab driver is and this

guy was called Eugene quits

so and then it sort of said some number

it said New York police department and

so I got and so I quit the police

department you know it just was like

sitting there in front of me the other

side of that experience was Linda's

family

who um we'd sort of go and see like for

dinner and stuff and her dad was very

well to do New York lawyer who had a

great art collection

in his apartment and he had up these

painters that I'd only just barely heard

of or admired from afar nobody had him

on his wall you know so you could be it

was like being in a gallery really you

just would be sitting by them and

chatting and I'd be playing the piano or

something and these things would all be

around

these new influences on Paul showed

themselves in the artwork he

masterminded for The White Album the cut

up Montage of the poster contrasting

with the minimalism of the sleeve itself

it followed the trend he'd started with

the cover for revolver

Now The White Album became the first

record on the Beatles own label apple

and The Beautiful People of London made

their flower power way through Beatles

George and John's with it Aladdin's cave

one day

my doorbell rang it is Paul standing on

the doorstep so he says

got a name for the company you like this

apple he said what's the first thing a

child is taught at school

he says A is for apple we are the

beginning

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was far more of a success Than People

allow it but the tales of excess and

waste became true as the squabbling

between the group members and more

specifically John and Paul became worse

when the company had started Paul

traveled into the offices in sauro every

day but with his wish to have his

father-in-law John Eastman rather than

Alan Klein running the show overruled he

retreated to the studio yeah I mean

you've got to be philosophical in life

you know you can let it call you but I

try not to have too many regrets

um I can look back on it and say yeah

um it would have been better I think

they were better managers than what we

ended up with and uh but the I

understand the worry of the other guys

it's my in-laws

you know you don't want to bring in your

in-laws because obviously they're going

to favor me

and I'm sure that's what everyone was

worried about so they just got knocked

out of the ballpark first meeting really

I kind of understood it have you known

uh right from the beginning that you

didn't get on with Paul

oh

I knew that he had a problem because of

his in-laws do you think uh is it the

personal thing I think or is it more a

business

problem that he has with you

I'm thinking Mr Eastman his

father-in-law well I think that it's a

natural thing to probably uh you know

want your own family and I think that's

a problem and that's his problem

do you like Paul I don't dislike him I

think it's very talented fella I like

him quite well well what was good was

because they were in the background on

my side they did help us sort it they

did find the right lawyers to get the

company back and even though I had to do

it by suing the other Beatles which was

terrifying

when we did get the company back I you

must understand I got it back for them

too didn't just come to me they got

their quarters of it too and

it's a good job you know because none of

us would have anything

it would have just all fizzled away it

is true to say that Alan's arrival

certainly

um

was the first step in the in the demise

of apple and in many respects of the

routine of the relationship between John

and Paul

the famous rooftop concert at Apple was

designed as an attempt to get the

Beatles together as a working band the

film and recording sessions that went on

around the concert were anything but

they showed the backbiting and

self-inflicted pain within the group

morale was at an all-time low

McCartney named their last album after

the place where he'd done his greatest

work Abby Road he designed the sleeve

organized the photo session incredibly

the photographer only took six Stills on

the zebra Crossing and one was perfect

and he put together the concept of the

record again it showed the Divergence in

the group the first sign reflected

Lennon's desire for single tracks the

second side McCartney's aim of creating

a longer work or medley sadly he wanted

the album to be called Everest towards

its completion but after the Abbey wrote

photos no one could agree a date to take

some new pictures or agree to fly to the

Himalayas so the idea sunk although

Lennon hated it the album Remains The

Beatles biggest seller

I just would have liked to see it go on

just because we were good and I knew we

could have done masses more but

circumstances

um meant that we couldn't just it was

just timing again fate we and we got a

very big sense of the circle having been

completed so much so that we did our

last photo session for the album

um at the same place we've done our

first album The End had come about

anyway within the group having done the

touring having done Sergeant Pepper and

having made several more albums after

that the time had come that group was

bursting at the seams with Talent but it

could not be contained within the seams

of the group is the point it had to

burst out and go its separate ways and

the two major talents that then lived on

uh in their separate ways were

inevitably John Lennon and Paul

McCartney

I'm proud of what I did and I'm proud I

know what I did and I really love it and

I think a lot of people know it and

stuff and I think nowadays it is coming

round where I'm just sort of shutting up

and trying not to like blow my own

trumpet too much and a few people are

saying well but you did that didn't you

no no no no I'm saying well yeah I did

you know and so it it's going to come

out anyway it can't be hidden you can't

suppress it

um

so that's the way I'd rather have it

because I don't want to be the guy who

down John in public because I would

never do that he's too great John's

still my greatest hero

no doubt about it I think he always will

be well I'm sure Paul does Miss John

because they did their partnership is a

strange one because it was built on love

but it was also built on rivalry and

since John's death

um

Paul has collaborated with different

people but it's never been quite the

same I think the changing of the image

of Paul McCartney began with the death

of John and with all those books which

followed and the major naturally

followed along with this and thought Oh

Paul McCartney was this sort of really

softish guy who was there the nice nice

guy behind the scenes but John Lennon

was the aggressive Reynold Rebel he was

the innovator where his actual poll was

the innovator of The Beatles I think

people do it for the right motives

because they're all just so sad he died

you know and you want to give him more

and giving more than he was perhaps you

know but he himself I heard him on a

radio actually played on the day he died

we said I don't want to be a martyr last

thing I was probably to do with the bed

and stuff but he did become that and

yeah there was a big period of

revisionism

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on December 31st 1970 the 60s came to an

end when Paul McCartney sued for the

appointment of a receiver for the

Beatles interests and the fam 4 were no

longer

oh yeah it really heard it was one of

the biggest hurts in my life you know it

was uh

I was very keen I was very keen on the

Beatles I didn't see why it shouldn't

carry on

um Joan I think could mainly had become

fed up with it really he just wanted to

do something else he'd met yoga and um

I don't think he wanted to play with his

little play friends anymore you know I

did you know so when when it was all

dashed with the whole breaking up of

Apple it really hit me hard you know

um on a number of fronts you your mates

you'd been all that time with suddenly

you weren't mates anymore that's bad

enough

um this great company that had been such

a great idealistic dream

wasn't it was now a nightmare

um did that hit hard and um then what

are you going to do now was the the big

question I ended up

going off with Linda and the kids up to

Scotland and just living in a cloud and

the Mist rolling in from the sea and

just

trying to figure out what I could do you

know but it wasn't clear for a good few

months

since the Beatles Paul's achievements

have been immense he's written Classics

such as Maybe I'm Amazed and my love

he's the only one of the Fab Four to get

anywhere near the cells of the Beatles

with another group with the global

success of wings he's embraced styles of

music from trance to disco via reggae

and classical and even now 40 years on

he's still in the studio making albums

and continuing to add to that amazing

song catalog

but of course no one could ever have

replicated the peak hit by The Beatles

there could never be another revolver

White Album Sergeant Pepper for any

artist let alone the man who created

them the first time around

time has also shown him to be the winner

when it comes to business

concept for Apple although flawed seemed

to work when he made the journey in

every day to Savile Row when he stopped

the cocktail party raced on a baited

without her hand on the rudder

now his own company MPL is one of the

world's most successful music publishers

he was also shown to be right over the

Beatles song catalog those numbers were

lost to their composers forever when the

other Beatles voted against him

that hasn't stopped the power of the

music they created together

Paul has also left another Legacy for

the future as well as his music

single-handedly he's formed the

Liverpool Institute of Performing Arts

the much publicized Fame School

great feelings now is how proud of all

that will be

if they could have been here

but we'll get into that he'll stop

crying

but he has it and even though his

Peterson's on those nights we can work

it out

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however despite all it is achieved since

1970 it is the Beatles that have sent

the yardstick for his life's work

and although all the Beatles have

collaborated with one another since the

fam 4 split the only ones who never got

back are John and Paul

without John it's different you know

people say why don't you reform The

Beatles And we always just say well

there's one of us missing you know

that's that's based this basic problem

but while John was around yeah I would

have always ideally liked it to happen

but you know those people you get moody

with each other you argue when you're

arguing you know it's like

Sergio will Serge you you know you can't

help that it's four guys you know

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the value is we've left a good Legacy of

sort of answers to

Eternal questions that are always going

to be asked I think that's one of the

reasons it lasts there's kids coming up

now and the guys just got a new

girlfriend and they're wondering again

like we wondered what do you do what's

it all about and this they hear the

songs that go that's not bad that is the

funny thing about Fame you know you do

just to look in the mirror

I in this shell I'm that guy I've read

so much about

but I try and it's I don't know if it's

a schizo thing but I try and

disassociate myself from him a bit I try

and be the kid I was when I was five

grown up

um so I'm like a father I'm like just

some guy who gets in a car and goes

places and does interviews and works and

then Paul McCartney is the sort of

successful bit of it all that I'm very

proud of

but I don't imagine I'm him because

it'll just blow my head off

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