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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:51,700 CHEERING 2 00:00:51,700 --> 00:00:55,000 Right now, I'd like you to meet a young lady, 3 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,400 a very lovely young lady, that I really think 4 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,600 has what it takes to be around for a long, long time to come. 5 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,260 I'd like for you to meet Miss Linda Ronstadt! 6 00:01:08,660 --> 00:01:13,060 # Feeling better now that we're through 7 00:01:13,060 --> 00:01:17,300 # Feeling better cos I'm over you 8 00:01:17,300 --> 00:01:21,940 # Learned my lesson, it left a scar 9 00:01:21,940 --> 00:01:25,940 # Now I see how you really are 10 00:01:25,940 --> 00:01:29,020 # You're no good, you're no good, you're no good 11 00:01:29,020 --> 00:01:31,940 # Baby, you're no good 12 00:01:31,940 --> 00:01:34,460 # I'm gonna say it again 13 00:01:34,460 --> 00:01:37,900 # You're no good, you're no good, you're no good 14 00:01:37,900 --> 00:01:39,540 # Baby, you're no good... # 15 00:01:39,540 --> 00:01:41,820 Here's a gal who really sings great. 16 00:01:41,820 --> 00:01:45,220 We had her on the show last year and she was sensational. 17 00:01:45,220 --> 00:01:48,860 My first guest occupies a prominent place in the top 40 record charts 18 00:01:48,860 --> 00:01:50,700 and she has a big one right now. 19 00:01:50,700 --> 00:01:53,860 Linda Ronstadt is one of the really great talents in country music. 20 00:01:53,860 --> 00:01:56,380 Would you welcome, please, Linda Ronstadt. 21 00:01:56,380 --> 00:01:58,700 Ladies and gentlemen, Miss Linda Ronstadt! 22 00:01:58,700 --> 00:02:01,660 # I'm turning you down, baby, and I'm going my way 23 00:02:01,660 --> 00:02:05,340 # Forget about you, baby, cos I'm leaving to stay 24 00:02:05,340 --> 00:02:07,100 # You're no good... # 25 00:02:07,100 --> 00:02:09,940 Linda could literally sing anything. 26 00:02:09,940 --> 00:02:11,940 # You're no good... # 27 00:02:11,940 --> 00:02:13,580 I don't think anybody has tried 28 00:02:13,580 --> 00:02:17,140 more different styles and nailed it then Linda has. 29 00:02:17,140 --> 00:02:19,700 There's not that many people that can pull off 30 00:02:19,700 --> 00:02:23,140 new wave music and rock and those beautiful country ballads. 31 00:02:23,140 --> 00:02:24,580 Her range is huge. 32 00:02:26,100 --> 00:02:28,100 She decided what she wanted to do. 33 00:02:30,260 --> 00:02:34,300 And more important, what she was authentic at doing. 34 00:02:34,300 --> 00:02:36,580 And they always told her, "No, you can't do this, 35 00:02:36,580 --> 00:02:38,660 "you'll ruin your career." She did it anyway. 36 00:02:38,660 --> 00:02:42,740 # Good. # 37 00:02:47,340 --> 00:02:49,860 CHEERING 38 00:02:59,700 --> 00:03:01,860 Someone once asked me why people sing. 39 00:03:04,020 --> 00:03:09,140 I answered that they sing for many of the same reasons birds sing. 40 00:03:09,140 --> 00:03:12,740 They sing for a mate, 41 00:03:12,740 --> 00:03:15,860 to claim their territory, 42 00:03:15,860 --> 00:03:18,220 or simply to give voice to the delight of being alive 43 00:03:18,220 --> 00:03:20,020 in the midst of a beautiful day. 44 00:03:22,500 --> 00:03:25,420 They sing so the subsequent generations won't forget 45 00:03:25,420 --> 00:03:29,660 what the current generations endured or dreamed or delighted in. 46 00:03:33,540 --> 00:03:36,100 There are a lot of really good singers out in the world, 47 00:03:36,100 --> 00:03:38,780 a lot of better singers than I am. 48 00:03:40,580 --> 00:03:43,660 What I did that was different from other singers, 49 00:03:43,660 --> 00:03:47,140 I did a whole lot of different kinds of material. 50 00:03:47,140 --> 00:03:49,900 People would think that I was trying to reinvent myself 51 00:03:49,900 --> 00:03:51,900 but I never invented myself to start with, 52 00:03:51,900 --> 00:03:53,820 I just kind of popped out into the world. 53 00:04:01,060 --> 00:04:02,420 My mom grew up in Michigan. 54 00:04:04,580 --> 00:04:05,860 Her dad was an inventor. 55 00:04:07,460 --> 00:04:09,740 He was the third to Thomas Edison in the number of 56 00:04:09,740 --> 00:04:11,700 useful inventions in the '50s. 57 00:04:11,700 --> 00:04:15,140 He invented the electric stove, 58 00:04:15,140 --> 00:04:19,060 the electric toaster, 59 00:04:19,060 --> 00:04:20,860 the thermostat, for Westinghouse. 60 00:04:24,420 --> 00:04:27,140 But my grandmother had Parkinson's disease 61 00:04:27,140 --> 00:04:29,340 and he spent all his money trying to find a cure. 62 00:04:30,740 --> 00:04:32,020 And that's what I have now. 63 00:04:35,460 --> 00:04:37,660 My mom was really smart too. 64 00:04:37,660 --> 00:04:39,420 She wanted to study math and physics, 65 00:04:39,420 --> 00:04:42,300 and the University of Arizona was really good for that, 66 00:04:42,300 --> 00:04:44,940 so she came out to Tucson, where she met my father. 67 00:04:46,460 --> 00:04:48,740 My great-grandfather, Friedrich Ronstadt, 68 00:04:48,740 --> 00:04:52,180 came from Germany to Mexico in 1839. 69 00:04:52,180 --> 00:04:56,140 My father's father, Federico, moved to Tucson when he was 14, 70 00:04:56,140 --> 00:04:58,180 to work as a wagon maker. 71 00:04:58,180 --> 00:05:00,300 But his true passion was music. 72 00:05:00,300 --> 00:05:02,500 MARIACHI MUSIC PLAYS 73 00:05:04,860 --> 00:05:07,980 So he started the Club Filarmonico Tucsonense. 74 00:05:09,420 --> 00:05:12,780 He was the one who wrote the arrangements and taught everybody 75 00:05:12,780 --> 00:05:14,060 how to play their instruments. 76 00:05:14,060 --> 00:05:16,500 He was like The Music Man. 77 00:05:16,500 --> 00:05:18,500 If you wanted to serenade your sweetheart, 78 00:05:18,500 --> 00:05:20,500 you'd get my grandfather's band to go. 79 00:05:20,500 --> 00:05:22,220 And if you had a wedding or a funeral, 80 00:05:22,220 --> 00:05:23,740 well, they'd show up for that. 81 00:05:27,860 --> 00:05:29,980 First time that my mother ever saw my dad, 82 00:05:29,980 --> 00:05:33,220 he was riding his horse up the steps of her sorority house. 83 00:05:35,620 --> 00:05:38,580 My dad had a lovely baritone/tenor voice. 84 00:05:38,580 --> 00:05:40,460 He knew a lot of beautiful Mexican love songs 85 00:05:40,460 --> 00:05:42,060 that were rooted in his childhood. 86 00:05:45,260 --> 00:05:47,780 He serenaded my mother underneath her balcony. 87 00:05:51,980 --> 00:05:53,260 And she fell big for him. 88 00:05:56,940 --> 00:06:00,420 # I'm a rambler 89 00:06:00,420 --> 00:06:03,300 # I'm a gambler 90 00:06:03,300 --> 00:06:09,900 # I'm a long way from home 91 00:06:09,900 --> 00:06:15,220 # If you people don't like me 92 00:06:15,220 --> 00:06:22,340 # You can leave me alone... # 93 00:06:22,340 --> 00:06:25,060 I grew up in Tucson, on the last ten acres 94 00:06:25,060 --> 00:06:27,300 of my grandfather's cattle ranch. 95 00:06:27,300 --> 00:06:31,100 We were very isolated, so if you wanted entertainment, 96 00:06:31,100 --> 00:06:32,740 you kind of had to make your own. 97 00:06:35,300 --> 00:06:38,380 There was a lot of music going on in that house. 98 00:06:38,380 --> 00:06:40,060 Some of it came in through the radio, 99 00:06:40,060 --> 00:06:41,820 that was my best friend in the world. 100 00:06:41,820 --> 00:06:42,940 # What you got cooking? 101 00:06:42,940 --> 00:06:44,340 # How's about cooking...? # 102 00:06:44,340 --> 00:06:46,100 We had amazing radio in Tucson 103 00:06:46,100 --> 00:06:48,380 because it was really close to the border. 104 00:06:49,740 --> 00:06:52,900 WOMAN SINGING IN SPANISH 105 00:06:55,700 --> 00:06:57,980 We could get the Louisiana Hayride... 106 00:06:57,980 --> 00:06:59,860 # Get going, Louisiana Hayride 107 00:06:59,860 --> 00:07:03,340 # No use calling the roll... # 108 00:07:03,340 --> 00:07:06,060 ..American standards... 109 00:07:06,060 --> 00:07:10,620 # Can't help loving that man of mine... # 110 00:07:10,620 --> 00:07:14,140 ..but my grandmother and grandfather were classical music devotees. 111 00:07:14,140 --> 00:07:16,740 OPERATIC SINGING 112 00:07:19,220 --> 00:07:22,500 So I would go over to their house on Saturday morning and listen 113 00:07:22,500 --> 00:07:25,820 to a live broadcast from the Metropolitan Opera. 114 00:07:25,820 --> 00:07:29,340 And come home and my dad would be playing Mexican songs on the piano. 115 00:07:29,340 --> 00:07:31,860 My mom would be playing some Gilbert and Sullivan piece. 116 00:07:35,660 --> 00:07:38,580 My sister loved Hank Williams, she loved country music. 117 00:07:38,580 --> 00:07:45,340 # I can't help it if I'm still in love with you... # 118 00:07:45,340 --> 00:07:47,740 My brother would be singing really high soprano. 119 00:07:49,580 --> 00:07:53,820 He was in a world-class boys choir and he was their soloist. 120 00:07:53,820 --> 00:07:57,380 She wanted to know how to sing that way, so I taught her. 121 00:07:57,380 --> 00:07:59,620 So she learned about vibrato and all that kind of stuff 122 00:07:59,620 --> 00:08:01,260 when she was like five, six years old. 123 00:08:03,820 --> 00:08:06,740 We learned so much about singing from each other. 124 00:08:06,740 --> 00:08:09,300 It was completely incorporated into what we did. 125 00:08:09,300 --> 00:08:11,540 We sang at the dinner table, 126 00:08:11,540 --> 00:08:16,420 we sang in the car, we sang with our hands in the dishwater. 127 00:08:16,420 --> 00:08:19,220 I thought Spanish was this magical, musical language. 128 00:08:21,460 --> 00:08:22,620 When I was growing up, 129 00:08:22,620 --> 00:08:26,260 I thought people sang in Spanish and spoke in English. 130 00:08:26,260 --> 00:08:29,020 If you spoke Spanish on the playground, you'd be punished, 131 00:08:29,020 --> 00:08:30,500 you weren't allowed to do it. 132 00:08:34,020 --> 00:08:36,660 My sister and brother and I eventually formed a little group, 133 00:08:36,660 --> 00:08:39,300 we called ourselves The New Union Ramblers. 134 00:08:39,300 --> 00:08:41,180 We thought that sounded folky. 135 00:08:42,820 --> 00:08:46,380 Bobby Kimmel was a guitar player that I met in Tucson. 136 00:08:46,380 --> 00:08:48,100 He wrote songs about his own life. 137 00:08:49,300 --> 00:08:52,820 I remember them being one of the best vocal groups I'd ever heard. 138 00:08:56,500 --> 00:08:58,460 Bobby joined our family group. 139 00:08:58,460 --> 00:09:01,220 And then he and I used to play as a duet sometimes. 140 00:09:03,660 --> 00:09:05,340 We played little clubs in Tucson, 141 00:09:05,340 --> 00:09:08,180 but there wasn't very much opportunity for us there. 142 00:09:11,260 --> 00:09:14,260 At some point, reality stepped in. My sister had three kids. 143 00:09:15,940 --> 00:09:18,700 And then my brother went to work for the police department. 144 00:09:21,460 --> 00:09:24,580 Bobby wanted to earn some money playing music, 145 00:09:24,580 --> 00:09:26,620 so he went off to California. 146 00:09:28,300 --> 00:09:31,660 And I was the last man standing. 147 00:09:31,660 --> 00:09:35,140 # All the leaves are brown All the leaves are brown 148 00:09:35,140 --> 00:09:36,660 # And the sky is grey... # 149 00:09:36,660 --> 00:09:39,100 I went to LA with the intention of forming a band. 150 00:09:41,300 --> 00:09:45,340 When I saw the quality of the singers that were out there, 151 00:09:45,340 --> 00:09:48,500 I started writing to Linda, saying, 152 00:09:48,500 --> 00:09:52,340 "If you come out, we could form a band and get a record deal." 153 00:09:54,820 --> 00:09:57,180 I knew they had more clubs to play in Los Angeles. 154 00:10:01,220 --> 00:10:03,300 I was telling her, "This is kind of an iffy thing. 155 00:10:03,300 --> 00:10:05,580 "You might starve to death or you might find yourself 156 00:10:05,580 --> 00:10:09,420 "washing dishes and waiting tables before you ever get discovered." 157 00:10:09,420 --> 00:10:11,460 She says, "I'm willing to take the chance." 158 00:10:13,140 --> 00:10:14,300 I was 18 years old. 159 00:10:16,100 --> 00:10:20,140 We had a house on the beach for 80 bucks a month, in Santa Monica. 160 00:10:20,140 --> 00:10:22,220 We split the rent three ways. 161 00:10:22,220 --> 00:10:24,580 It was just great, it was right on the beach. 162 00:10:28,780 --> 00:10:31,820 Once she got there, we got to work right away 163 00:10:31,820 --> 00:10:33,740 and we used to practise every day. 164 00:10:37,660 --> 00:10:40,020 Bobby introduced me to a really good guitar player 165 00:10:40,020 --> 00:10:42,180 named Kenny Edwards, and we formed a little band. 166 00:10:42,180 --> 00:10:44,700 We called ourselves the Stone Poneys. 167 00:10:44,700 --> 00:10:46,740 # Look out your window 168 00:10:46,740 --> 00:10:49,940 # The rain is turning into snow... # 169 00:10:49,940 --> 00:10:52,100 We started playing little beatnik dives 170 00:10:52,100 --> 00:10:54,860 and strange pizza parlours, wherever we could get a job. 171 00:10:57,180 --> 00:11:00,660 There was the trip where I heard this band called The Byrds. 172 00:11:00,660 --> 00:11:03,340 They had a light show and a lot of acid tripping 173 00:11:03,340 --> 00:11:04,740 kind of stuff going on. 174 00:11:06,980 --> 00:11:08,820 The Whisky a Go Go was very rock and roll. 175 00:11:08,820 --> 00:11:10,540 I heard The Doors there and I thought, 176 00:11:10,540 --> 00:11:13,220 "They'd be really a hit band if they get rid of their singer!" 177 00:11:17,420 --> 00:11:19,380 There was The Ash Grove. 178 00:11:19,380 --> 00:11:21,980 That was where you'd go for authentic folk music. 179 00:11:21,980 --> 00:11:24,060 That's where I first heard Ry Cooder. 180 00:11:24,060 --> 00:11:28,940 # Have you seen that vigilante man...? # 181 00:11:31,660 --> 00:11:32,940 Ry Cooder was then and now 182 00:11:32,940 --> 00:11:35,580 the most amazing guitar player I've ever heard. 183 00:11:35,580 --> 00:11:37,740 I knew they had good musicians in Los Angeles 184 00:11:37,740 --> 00:11:39,340 but this guy's really something. 185 00:11:39,340 --> 00:11:42,260 I thought, "I'm staying here. I'm not going back to Tucson to live!" 186 00:11:50,380 --> 00:11:55,500 She came to Los Angeles at a time when the LA rock and roll scene 187 00:11:55,500 --> 00:11:57,100 was in gear and was going. 188 00:11:57,100 --> 00:12:00,740 Cos, see, after The Byrds did their thing with Mr Tambourine Man, 189 00:12:00,740 --> 00:12:02,980 then the whole damn thing broke loose. 190 00:12:02,980 --> 00:12:05,220 And all the record companies went scurrying around 191 00:12:05,220 --> 00:12:09,660 like headless chickens, trying to figure out what to do. 192 00:12:09,660 --> 00:12:13,420 "Who can sing a folk rock and how can we define 193 00:12:13,420 --> 00:12:16,420 "what this thing is going to be?" 194 00:12:16,420 --> 00:12:20,060 # Hey, Mr Tambourine Man 195 00:12:20,060 --> 00:12:22,020 # Play a song for me... # 196 00:12:22,020 --> 00:12:24,180 There was a lot of cross-pollination 197 00:12:24,180 --> 00:12:26,340 that started happening in the mid-'60s. 198 00:12:26,340 --> 00:12:29,420 Country music and folk music and rock music started 199 00:12:29,420 --> 00:12:32,980 commingling and blending and you'd get all these hybrids. 200 00:12:34,940 --> 00:12:37,260 ARCHIVE: The Troubadour, just a few blocks 201 00:12:37,260 --> 00:12:41,620 from Hollywood Boulevard, is known as an avant-garde cafe. 202 00:12:41,620 --> 00:12:44,500 It's the favourite of Hollywood's young and young in heart. 203 00:12:45,780 --> 00:12:48,860 The Troubadour was where everybody went to hang out and to be noticed. 204 00:12:48,860 --> 00:12:51,820 If you wanted to make yourself known to the record community at large, 205 00:12:51,820 --> 00:12:54,340 you'd go to the Troubadour, play an open-mic night. 206 00:12:55,580 --> 00:12:59,900 I can't even name all the great songwriters that came through there. 207 00:12:59,900 --> 00:13:02,620 I mean, Laura Nyro, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, 208 00:13:02,620 --> 00:13:04,780 Tim Hardin, Kris Kristofferson, 209 00:13:04,780 --> 00:13:06,980 Rick Nelson, Elton John, 210 00:13:06,980 --> 00:13:08,780 Jackson Browne. 211 00:13:08,780 --> 00:13:13,420 It was just week after week of amazing, game-changing songwriters. 212 00:13:13,420 --> 00:13:17,580 # Some of them were dreamers 213 00:13:17,580 --> 00:13:21,100 # And some of them were fools 214 00:13:21,100 --> 00:13:27,100 # Who were making plans and thinking of the future... # 215 00:13:27,100 --> 00:13:29,380 I mean, you tried to get a gig at the Troubadour, 216 00:13:29,380 --> 00:13:31,380 you wanted to play the Troubadour. 217 00:13:31,380 --> 00:13:34,700 All kinds of industry people hung around in the bar. 218 00:13:34,700 --> 00:13:37,780 The Troubadour was important, because that's where you'd get seen. 219 00:13:37,780 --> 00:13:39,300 It was a place to play. 220 00:13:39,300 --> 00:13:42,140 It's like in the minor leagues in baseball, this was your chance, 221 00:13:42,140 --> 00:13:44,820 this was your great chance. 222 00:13:44,820 --> 00:13:47,420 The Troubadour was a bustling place. 223 00:13:47,420 --> 00:13:50,940 They had a hootenanny night where new artists would come 224 00:13:50,940 --> 00:13:53,020 and sing a few songs, and I used to go to every 225 00:13:53,020 --> 00:13:55,940 hootenanny night see if there was anybody really talented. 226 00:13:55,940 --> 00:13:59,020 The Hoot, the Monday night open-mic hootenanny, 227 00:13:59,020 --> 00:14:01,260 where you'd wait and get on the list and you'd go 228 00:14:01,260 --> 00:14:03,180 up there and sing your new song. 229 00:14:03,180 --> 00:14:05,900 # Get a head of steam on, shovelling the coal 230 00:14:05,900 --> 00:14:08,580 # Stick your head out the window, watch the driver go... # 231 00:14:08,580 --> 00:14:13,540 # Wasting time... # 232 00:14:13,540 --> 00:14:17,980 # And I hear loud ringing in my ear... # 233 00:14:17,980 --> 00:14:19,700 You got two or three songs. 234 00:14:19,700 --> 00:14:22,540 If you were no good, you probably didn't last the second song 235 00:14:22,540 --> 00:14:25,100 cos people were like, "Ah, get off..." 236 00:14:25,100 --> 00:14:27,220 And maybe not even the first song. 237 00:14:28,660 --> 00:14:35,340 # Oh, you and I travel to the beat of a different drum... # 238 00:14:35,340 --> 00:14:37,260 I heard this song called Different Drum 239 00:14:37,260 --> 00:14:39,900 by this bluegrass group called The Greenbriar Boys. 240 00:14:41,740 --> 00:14:43,580 It was written by Mike Nesmith, 241 00:14:43,580 --> 00:14:45,580 who was eventually going to join The Monkees. 242 00:14:45,580 --> 00:14:48,660 # You cry and moan and say 243 00:14:48,660 --> 00:14:50,980 # It will work out 244 00:14:50,980 --> 00:14:54,900 # But, honey child, I've got my doubts 245 00:14:54,900 --> 00:14:59,700 # You can't see the forest for the trees 246 00:14:59,700 --> 00:15:02,380 # So don't get me wrong 247 00:15:02,380 --> 00:15:04,220 # It's not that I knock it 248 00:15:04,220 --> 00:15:05,980 # It's just that I 249 00:15:05,980 --> 00:15:07,820 # Am not in the market 250 00:15:07,820 --> 00:15:09,420 # For a boy who wants 251 00:15:09,420 --> 00:15:13,780 # To love only me... # 252 00:15:13,780 --> 00:15:16,620 We got an immediate response from managers and people 253 00:15:16,620 --> 00:15:18,220 who were interested in our career. 254 00:15:19,660 --> 00:15:22,860 Herb Cohen was managing Frank Zappa. 255 00:15:22,860 --> 00:15:25,860 We had heard that he had been a soldier of fortune. 256 00:15:25,860 --> 00:15:27,900 He may have killed somebody. 257 00:15:27,900 --> 00:15:30,700 He was a badass, but he was established, 258 00:15:30,700 --> 00:15:34,860 and he immediately said, "I can get you a record deal." 259 00:15:34,860 --> 00:15:37,740 # So, goodbye, I'll be leaving 260 00:15:37,740 --> 00:15:40,540 # I see no sense for this crying and grieving... # 261 00:15:40,540 --> 00:15:43,860 We recorded a few things, just the three of us. 262 00:15:43,860 --> 00:15:47,700 Then he took those to the people in power 263 00:15:47,700 --> 00:15:49,980 and said, "I want to record these guys." 264 00:15:51,820 --> 00:15:53,620 Capitol said OK, 265 00:15:53,620 --> 00:15:56,180 we signed papers and we were off and running. 266 00:16:01,740 --> 00:16:05,580 So we recorded it with a mandolin and a couple of acoustic guitars. 267 00:16:05,580 --> 00:16:07,860 And the record company didn't like it. 268 00:16:07,860 --> 00:16:11,060 And so, they said, "Well, come back, we want to recut the song." 269 00:16:11,060 --> 00:16:14,660 Suddenly, everything changed in the studio. 270 00:16:14,660 --> 00:16:16,140 They had a bunch of strings in there, 271 00:16:16,140 --> 00:16:18,420 and it was an orchestra session. I went, "Wait a minute, 272 00:16:18,420 --> 00:16:20,300 "this isn't the way I thought about the song." 273 00:16:23,180 --> 00:16:25,780 I said, "I don't want to put it on the record", because that wasn't 274 00:16:25,780 --> 00:16:27,420 the way I'd originally envisioned it. 275 00:16:27,420 --> 00:16:32,860 # You and I travel to the beat of a different drum 276 00:16:32,860 --> 00:16:37,140 # Oh, can't you tell by the way I run 277 00:16:37,140 --> 00:16:40,100 # Every time you make eyes at me... # 278 00:16:40,100 --> 00:16:43,700 It was a good thing they didn't listen to me, cos it was a huge hit! 279 00:16:43,700 --> 00:16:47,580 I'm driving down the road in my car, listening to KTKT Radio, 280 00:16:47,580 --> 00:16:50,540 and all of a sudden, she's singing Different Drum. 281 00:16:50,540 --> 00:16:52,180 I said, "Wait a minute!" 282 00:16:54,380 --> 00:16:56,460 I loved her voice from the first time I heard her. 283 00:16:56,460 --> 00:16:58,220 I was a freshman in college. 284 00:16:58,220 --> 00:17:00,300 The Stone Poneys, Different Drum, 285 00:17:00,300 --> 00:17:01,620 yeah, baby! 286 00:17:01,620 --> 00:17:03,420 It was just like... 287 00:17:03,420 --> 00:17:06,940 It was just, like, to pull back 288 00:17:06,940 --> 00:17:10,780 the covering of a fully developed vocal stylist. 289 00:17:13,260 --> 00:17:17,980 # Yes, and I ain't saying you ain't pretty 290 00:17:17,980 --> 00:17:21,700 # All I'm saying, I'm not ready... # 291 00:17:21,700 --> 00:17:25,900 Most of the time, as a critic, you're sitting there saying, 292 00:17:25,900 --> 00:17:29,020 "Well, I'll give the artist a plus for this and a minus for this. 293 00:17:29,020 --> 00:17:31,500 "This is kind of good, that's not so good." 294 00:17:31,500 --> 00:17:33,580 Bang, it was like a home-run. 295 00:17:33,580 --> 00:17:36,860 # Goodbye, I'll be leaving... # 296 00:17:36,860 --> 00:17:41,180 We were out on this tour, and Herbie Cohen comes 297 00:17:41,180 --> 00:17:45,580 to my hotel room and says, "I need to tell you that, 298 00:17:45,580 --> 00:17:50,100 "when we get back to LA, the band is breaking up." 299 00:17:50,100 --> 00:17:52,860 Everybody said, "I don't know about you two guys, 300 00:17:52,860 --> 00:17:54,620 "but we want the girl singer." 301 00:17:56,100 --> 00:18:00,100 The record company wanted to develop me as a solo artist. 302 00:18:00,100 --> 00:18:04,180 Kenny decided to go off to India and find a guru and learn to meditate, 303 00:18:04,180 --> 00:18:07,780 and Bobby started a folk club in LA called McCabe's. 304 00:18:07,780 --> 00:18:10,460 And I was left with, what in the world to sing? 305 00:18:10,460 --> 00:18:13,460 I was by myself. Harmony singer with no material. 306 00:18:14,540 --> 00:18:16,820 The remarkable thing about the Stone Poney days 307 00:18:16,820 --> 00:18:19,980 was she had the nerve to leave a male band 308 00:18:19,980 --> 00:18:23,340 after it had already had a hit and go on her own. 309 00:18:23,340 --> 00:18:25,500 Will you welcome, please, Miss Linda Ronstadt. 310 00:18:25,500 --> 00:18:27,220 APPLAUSE 311 00:18:27,220 --> 00:18:29,860 Ronstadt. Ronstadt? 312 00:18:29,860 --> 00:18:33,340 Did anyone ever suggest that isn't the most musical name in the world? 313 00:18:33,340 --> 00:18:36,420 Oh, yeah, Glen Campbell called me... That maybe you should change it 314 00:18:36,420 --> 00:18:39,180 to Linda Marlowe or... Is there a Linda Marlowe, or...? 315 00:18:39,180 --> 00:18:41,780 It gives people.. Once they learn how to pronounce my name, 316 00:18:41,780 --> 00:18:44,380 you know, that leaves them free for all kinds of variations. 317 00:18:44,380 --> 00:18:46,860 Glen Campbell once called me Linda Bedstead. 318 00:18:46,860 --> 00:18:48,860 You know, I remember you 319 00:18:48,860 --> 00:18:52,060 when you were nothing but a little Stone Poney. Oh, yeah? 320 00:18:52,060 --> 00:18:53,980 I don't have any idea what that means. 321 00:18:53,980 --> 00:18:56,380 I know that you were part of a group, right? 322 00:18:56,380 --> 00:18:59,660 Let's see, how do I explain this on television and not get yelled at? 323 00:18:59,660 --> 00:19:01,300 Oh, well, maybe you don't! 324 00:19:02,700 --> 00:19:04,460 I think I don't. Oh, yeah? 325 00:19:04,460 --> 00:19:08,540 Is it an inside meaning? Well, yeah, it has a lot of different... 326 00:19:08,540 --> 00:19:13,900 # Love will abide 327 00:19:13,900 --> 00:19:19,340 # Take things in stride 328 00:19:19,340 --> 00:19:23,420 # Sounds like good advice 329 00:19:23,420 --> 00:19:28,060 # But there's no-one at my side 330 00:19:28,060 --> 00:19:35,180 # And time washes clean 331 00:19:35,180 --> 00:19:40,700 # Love's wounds unseen 332 00:19:40,700 --> 00:19:44,820 # That's what someone told me 333 00:19:44,820 --> 00:19:49,220 # But I don't know what it means 334 00:19:49,220 --> 00:19:55,220 # Cos I've done everything I know 335 00:19:55,220 --> 00:20:00,620 # To try and make you mine 336 00:20:00,620 --> 00:20:05,780 # And I think it's gonna hurt me 337 00:20:05,780 --> 00:20:10,940 # For a long, long time 338 00:20:10,940 --> 00:20:17,140 # Cos I've done everything I know 339 00:20:17,140 --> 00:20:22,420 # To try and make you mine 340 00:20:22,420 --> 00:20:26,860 # And I think I'm gonna love you 341 00:20:26,860 --> 00:20:32,460 # For a long, long time... # 342 00:20:32,460 --> 00:20:34,580 I met her in the Troubadour. 343 00:20:34,580 --> 00:20:37,020 She had this hit called Long, Long Time. 344 00:20:39,900 --> 00:20:42,940 Apparently, she knew who I was based on a record 345 00:20:42,940 --> 00:20:44,380 I'd made with Ricky Nelson. 346 00:20:47,500 --> 00:20:50,820 She said, "I like that band you put together for Rick Nelson. 347 00:20:50,820 --> 00:20:52,220 "Could you do that for me?" 348 00:20:53,460 --> 00:20:56,220 # She's got everything she needs 349 00:20:56,220 --> 00:20:58,900 # She's an artist, she don't look back... # 350 00:21:00,940 --> 00:21:03,100 Herbie Cohen was the manager when I met her. 351 00:21:03,100 --> 00:21:07,900 He gave me these tickets to Hawaii for the Capitol Records convention. 352 00:21:07,900 --> 00:21:10,300 Linda and I show up at San Francisco Airport 353 00:21:10,300 --> 00:21:13,820 to fly to Honolulu and, lo and behold, there was 354 00:21:13,820 --> 00:21:17,500 the FBI to arrest us for receiving stolen property. 355 00:21:17,500 --> 00:21:20,500 Turns out, Herbie had bought the tickets in the lobby 356 00:21:20,500 --> 00:21:24,260 of the building from some guy, you know, probably for 25 cents 357 00:21:24,260 --> 00:21:27,860 on the dollar, and they were hotter than a $2 pistol. 358 00:21:27,860 --> 00:21:30,660 So we spent the day in jail. 359 00:21:33,460 --> 00:21:36,300 She fired Herbie and asked me to fill in. 360 00:21:36,300 --> 00:21:39,980 # I don't want your lonely mansion... # 361 00:21:39,980 --> 00:21:42,420 I was walking through the Troubadour one night, 362 00:21:42,420 --> 00:21:45,340 on my way to the bathroom. 363 00:21:45,340 --> 00:21:48,380 This band Shiloh got up and did my exact version 364 00:21:48,380 --> 00:21:50,540 of Silver Threads And Golden Needles. 365 00:21:50,540 --> 00:21:53,940 # Silver threads and golden needles... # 366 00:21:53,940 --> 00:21:56,700 I just went, "What?! It's that solo!" 367 00:21:56,700 --> 00:21:59,380 I thought, "God, what...?" You know, I was appalled that anyone 368 00:21:59,380 --> 00:22:02,340 would actually sit down with one of my records, you know, 369 00:22:02,340 --> 00:22:04,060 and learn the solo off it, you know, 370 00:22:04,060 --> 00:22:05,580 like a Led Zeppelin record. 371 00:22:05,580 --> 00:22:08,380 And I heard the drummer and I thought he was really good. 372 00:22:08,380 --> 00:22:11,260 The drummer was a guy named Don Henley. 373 00:22:11,260 --> 00:22:15,100 Linda's first solo album came out in '69, 374 00:22:15,100 --> 00:22:18,460 and I moved to LA in June of 1970. 375 00:22:18,460 --> 00:22:20,820 So, my timing was pretty good. 376 00:22:20,820 --> 00:22:24,500 She'd had a bunch of dates back east and we needed to put 377 00:22:24,500 --> 00:22:28,660 the band together quickly, so I hired him for $250 a week. 378 00:22:36,100 --> 00:22:37,900 # Rescue me 379 00:22:37,900 --> 00:22:39,500 # I want you in my arms 380 00:22:39,500 --> 00:22:41,500 # Rescue me 381 00:22:41,500 --> 00:22:43,500 # I need your tender charms 382 00:22:43,500 --> 00:22:45,220 # Cos I'm lonely... # 383 00:22:45,220 --> 00:22:47,540 I knew who she was cos I had her album. 384 00:22:47,540 --> 00:22:49,540 I listened to that album 100 times. 385 00:22:49,540 --> 00:22:51,460 # Come on and rescue me... # 386 00:22:51,460 --> 00:22:55,140 She could seem vulnerable and very feminine, 387 00:22:55,140 --> 00:22:58,780 but when she opened her mouth to sing, everything got different. 388 00:22:58,780 --> 00:23:00,860 You know, it was just incredible. 389 00:23:02,580 --> 00:23:07,140 You knew that there was a very solid core and a very determined woman. 390 00:23:18,260 --> 00:23:20,580 I just saw her walking past me in the Troubadour 391 00:23:20,580 --> 00:23:22,700 and she looked so cute, I just grabbed her by the hand 392 00:23:22,700 --> 00:23:25,900 and I said, "I think you should cook me dinner." 393 00:23:25,900 --> 00:23:28,220 And she said, "OK," and gave me her phone number. 394 00:23:28,220 --> 00:23:30,980 So I called her in a couple of days, and I said, 395 00:23:30,980 --> 00:23:32,540 "Well, are you going to cook me dinner?" 396 00:23:32,540 --> 00:23:34,060 She goes, "Sure, come on over." 397 00:23:34,060 --> 00:23:37,660 I came on over and she made me a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. 398 00:23:37,660 --> 00:23:39,780 And I fell in love with her. 399 00:23:39,780 --> 00:23:41,540 Took her home and, the next day, I said, 400 00:23:41,540 --> 00:23:44,620 "Listen, let's go get your stuff, I think you can live here with me." 401 00:23:44,620 --> 00:23:48,260 # I got a feeling called the blues, oh, Lord 402 00:23:48,260 --> 00:23:50,900 # Since my baby said goodbye... # 403 00:23:50,900 --> 00:23:54,580 John David Souther and Linda Ronstadt, they were a hot couple. 404 00:23:54,580 --> 00:23:57,980 # All I do is sit and cry, oh, Lord 405 00:23:57,980 --> 00:24:00,940 # That last long day he said goodbye... # 406 00:24:00,940 --> 00:24:03,500 JD'd had a musical duo with a guy named Glenn Frey. 407 00:24:07,260 --> 00:24:09,740 He was my best friend and first songwriting partner. 408 00:24:11,980 --> 00:24:13,980 We really did nothing but just listen to music 409 00:24:13,980 --> 00:24:17,580 and play guitars and try to write songs and then go to the Troubadour. 410 00:24:19,540 --> 00:24:22,580 Glenn Frey played pretty good guitar, so I went and talked 411 00:24:22,580 --> 00:24:25,460 to Glenn and said, "Do you want to do this tour with me?" 412 00:24:25,460 --> 00:24:27,220 He said it'd be really cool. 413 00:24:27,220 --> 00:24:29,140 He'd never been on the road before. 414 00:24:31,220 --> 00:24:33,580 Glenn Frey and I shared a $12 hotel room 415 00:24:33,580 --> 00:24:35,980 with two twin beds in it. 416 00:24:35,980 --> 00:24:39,180 It was a very modest tour, I mean, I remember being in station wagons. 417 00:24:42,020 --> 00:24:45,100 Rooming together, John and Glenn each discovered that the other 418 00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:46,900 was a good singer and songwriter. 419 00:24:48,700 --> 00:24:52,860 And that's when they decided to get together and form a band. 420 00:24:52,860 --> 00:24:54,420 That band became The Eagles. 421 00:24:57,700 --> 00:24:59,620 They wished us well. 422 00:24:59,620 --> 00:25:02,900 You know, John was very supportive, Linda was supportive. 423 00:25:02,900 --> 00:25:05,020 And they basically said, "Just go for it." 424 00:25:07,980 --> 00:25:10,460 We didn't have much success with Desperado. 425 00:25:10,460 --> 00:25:13,580 It was... The record company didn't know what to do with it. 426 00:25:13,580 --> 00:25:16,380 And then Linda made it into a classic. 427 00:25:16,380 --> 00:25:20,580 # Desperado 428 00:25:20,580 --> 00:25:25,580 # Why don't you come to your senses? 429 00:25:25,580 --> 00:25:30,140 # Come down from your fences 430 00:25:30,140 --> 00:25:33,740 # And open the gate 431 00:25:33,740 --> 00:25:37,260 # It may be raining 432 00:25:37,260 --> 00:25:41,860 # But there's a rainbow above you 433 00:25:41,860 --> 00:25:46,580 # You better let somebody love you 434 00:25:46,580 --> 00:25:57,340 # Let somebody love you 435 00:25:57,340 --> 00:26:04,660 # Before it's too late. # 436 00:26:16,940 --> 00:26:20,220 CHEERING 437 00:26:32,140 --> 00:26:35,420 I knew the Neil Young tour was coming and I thought, 438 00:26:35,420 --> 00:26:38,820 this'll be perfect for Linda, because she had sung backup 439 00:26:38,820 --> 00:26:40,860 on his big hit, Heart Of Gold. 440 00:26:40,860 --> 00:26:44,100 So I called Neil's manager and I said, "Listen, 441 00:26:44,100 --> 00:26:47,100 "Linda's the right opening act for this. You've got to help me out." 442 00:26:47,100 --> 00:26:49,820 And they said, "Well, Neil's going to go out alone." 443 00:26:51,020 --> 00:26:55,580 # I want to live, I want to give... # 444 00:26:55,580 --> 00:26:58,820 And lo and behold, like, a week later, they called me 445 00:26:58,820 --> 00:27:01,500 and said, "Neil's done a few dates in Canada 446 00:27:01,500 --> 00:27:03,340 "and it's getting him too tired. 447 00:27:03,340 --> 00:27:05,820 "He now wants an opening act and you're it." 448 00:27:08,820 --> 00:27:12,460 Linda was quite reluctant at the time. She was so worried 449 00:27:12,460 --> 00:27:15,740 about the idea of playing a huge hockey arena tour 450 00:27:15,740 --> 00:27:17,700 at that point in her career. 451 00:27:17,700 --> 00:27:20,860 But we persuaded her that this would be a good thing. 452 00:27:20,860 --> 00:27:23,780 CHEERING 453 00:27:23,780 --> 00:27:24,980 Thank you. 454 00:27:26,660 --> 00:27:30,060 You would occasionally get someone yelling, "We want Neil!" 455 00:27:30,060 --> 00:27:33,900 But by the time the tour got going, she was holding her own. 456 00:27:33,900 --> 00:27:38,020 # I've been cheated 457 00:27:38,020 --> 00:27:41,700 # Been mistreated 458 00:27:41,700 --> 00:27:47,100 # When will I be loved? 459 00:27:49,100 --> 00:27:52,820 # I've been put down 460 00:27:52,820 --> 00:27:56,260 # I've been pushed round 461 00:27:56,260 --> 00:28:01,460 # When will I be loved? 462 00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:07,580 # When I find a new man 463 00:28:07,580 --> 00:28:11,140 # That I want for mine 464 00:28:11,140 --> 00:28:14,340 # He always breaks my heart in two 465 00:28:14,340 --> 00:28:20,340 # It happens every time 466 00:28:20,340 --> 00:28:22,140 # I've been made blue... # 467 00:28:22,140 --> 00:28:25,300 Here's Linda, who I'd never seen live before, 468 00:28:25,300 --> 00:28:29,420 big stage, sold out, huge place. 469 00:28:29,420 --> 00:28:33,700 She comes out there and starts singing, and that voice filled 470 00:28:33,700 --> 00:28:37,140 this arena, where I had seen concerts for a long time. 471 00:28:37,140 --> 00:28:40,180 Nobody filled this arena with a voice like Linda Ronstadt. 472 00:28:40,180 --> 00:28:44,940 And she just killed it, she slaughtered this crowd 473 00:28:44,940 --> 00:28:48,660 who didn't come to see her, but they sure left knowing who she was. 474 00:28:51,380 --> 00:28:54,540 We did 78 dates in 90 days. 475 00:28:54,540 --> 00:28:57,700 We played before 18,000 to 20,000 people every night. 476 00:29:01,420 --> 00:29:02,940 We got to Houston and there 477 00:29:02,940 --> 00:29:05,180 was this new girl singer named Emmylou. 478 00:29:06,980 --> 00:29:08,340 It was 1973, during 479 00:29:08,340 --> 00:29:10,340 the one tour I did with Gram. 480 00:29:10,340 --> 00:29:13,620 # Calliope calling 481 00:29:13,620 --> 00:29:15,260 # Children are falling 482 00:29:15,260 --> 00:29:18,380 # In line to ride on the merry-go-round... # 483 00:29:18,380 --> 00:29:20,900 Emmy started singing and in three notes, the entire place 484 00:29:20,900 --> 00:29:25,620 was dead quiet. It was like they'd started Mass or something. 485 00:29:25,620 --> 00:29:28,020 And she was beautiful, this girl with long hair 486 00:29:28,020 --> 00:29:29,940 and big, brown eyes, and I thought, 487 00:29:29,940 --> 00:29:32,260 "She's doing exactly what I'm doing. 488 00:29:32,260 --> 00:29:33,900 "But she's doing it better!" 489 00:29:36,500 --> 00:29:38,860 And for a minute, I thought, well, I can get jealous 490 00:29:38,860 --> 00:29:41,700 and then I won't be able to enjoy her singing, 491 00:29:41,700 --> 00:29:43,900 or I can just become a slobbering, drooling fan 492 00:29:43,900 --> 00:29:45,860 like the rest of the people in the club, 493 00:29:45,860 --> 00:29:48,580 and hope that maybe I can get her to sing with me. 494 00:29:48,580 --> 00:29:51,660 So I chose the latter. It was one of the best decisions I ever made. 495 00:29:51,660 --> 00:29:56,180 And Emmy and I became immediate music and social friends. 496 00:29:57,860 --> 00:30:03,580 Linda had a lot to do with lifting me up at a very, 497 00:30:03,580 --> 00:30:06,980 very low time in my life. 498 00:30:06,980 --> 00:30:10,460 I had been on my way, working with Gram Parsons. 499 00:30:10,460 --> 00:30:14,380 I thought I'd found my voice, I'd found something I loved to do, 500 00:30:14,380 --> 00:30:15,820 singing with him. 501 00:30:15,820 --> 00:30:18,860 # Love hurts 502 00:30:18,860 --> 00:30:22,500 # Love scars... # 503 00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:25,100 On the road, he was getting himself straight, 504 00:30:25,100 --> 00:30:26,700 he was drinking a lot less. 505 00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:29,500 He was loving the work, we loved singing together, 506 00:30:29,500 --> 00:30:31,380 we had a record we'd just made. 507 00:30:31,380 --> 00:30:34,740 And apparently someone showed up with heroin, 508 00:30:34,740 --> 00:30:39,260 which he hadn't done in a while, 509 00:30:39,260 --> 00:30:41,700 and it killed him. 510 00:30:41,700 --> 00:30:44,180 It was devastating, to lose him like that. 511 00:30:46,220 --> 00:30:50,660 It was Linda who stepped up as a friend, 512 00:30:50,660 --> 00:30:52,540 and we had just met each other. 513 00:30:52,540 --> 00:30:56,940 She brought me out to LA, had me stay at her house, 514 00:30:56,940 --> 00:30:59,580 and she talked about me to everybody, 515 00:30:59,580 --> 00:31:03,180 said how great I was and genuinely loved my singing, 516 00:31:03,180 --> 00:31:08,300 genuinely made me feel like I had something to offer 517 00:31:08,300 --> 00:31:11,580 at a very low time in my life. 518 00:31:11,580 --> 00:31:14,860 # Love hurts. # 519 00:31:16,900 --> 00:31:19,820 # Save me 520 00:31:19,820 --> 00:31:22,740 # Free me 521 00:31:22,740 --> 00:31:27,860 # From my heart this time 522 00:31:30,860 --> 00:31:38,340 # Well, the train's gone down the track 523 00:31:38,340 --> 00:31:43,740 # And I'm, I'm left behind... # 524 00:31:46,380 --> 00:31:50,300 Linda was always very tight with her girlfriends. 525 00:31:50,300 --> 00:31:52,620 They sang together, they shared music together, 526 00:31:52,620 --> 00:31:54,340 she was supportive of me. 527 00:31:54,340 --> 00:31:59,700 I was writing songs and hoping to make my own record. 528 00:31:59,700 --> 00:32:03,180 But, of course, Linda was really coming into her own 529 00:32:03,180 --> 00:32:05,500 and starting to be really successful. 530 00:32:07,660 --> 00:32:10,380 I think a songwriter doing their songs is different 531 00:32:10,380 --> 00:32:12,140 than a singer doing their songs. 532 00:32:12,140 --> 00:32:14,860 Some people prefer the songwriter doing them, 533 00:32:14,860 --> 00:32:18,140 some people prefer Linda doing them, 534 00:32:18,140 --> 00:32:21,140 but Lose Again, she definitely made into a bigger song. 535 00:32:23,140 --> 00:32:28,220 # But nothing could save me from this ball and chain... # 536 00:32:28,220 --> 00:32:30,460 Because I couldn't sing it like that. 537 00:32:30,460 --> 00:32:37,340 # I've made up my mind I would leave today... # 538 00:32:37,340 --> 00:32:40,580 I mean, Linda came out and turned it into this power ballad. 539 00:32:40,580 --> 00:32:43,900 # I know it's insane 540 00:32:43,900 --> 00:32:51,660 # Cos I'll love you and lose again 541 00:32:51,660 --> 00:32:59,580 # Whoa, I'll love you, and lose again. # 542 00:33:07,300 --> 00:33:10,460 Back then, there wasn't competition with women, 543 00:33:10,460 --> 00:33:13,980 so I think, women, there weren't that many of us either, 544 00:33:13,980 --> 00:33:17,180 so I think there was a certain amount of banding together 545 00:33:17,180 --> 00:33:19,460 to share our women part of it. 546 00:33:19,460 --> 00:33:21,140 This is a song off our new album. 547 00:33:22,900 --> 00:33:25,140 It's about a real special place, called home. 548 00:33:26,780 --> 00:33:28,220 It's a Karla Bonoff song. 549 00:33:29,460 --> 00:33:32,980 I'd made a demo of Home and we sent it off to Bonnie, 550 00:33:32,980 --> 00:33:36,100 just a complete long shot, she decided to record it. 551 00:33:36,100 --> 00:33:39,980 # Travelling at night 552 00:33:39,980 --> 00:33:42,300 # The headlights were bright 553 00:33:42,300 --> 00:33:46,460 # But soon the sun came through the trees 554 00:33:48,260 --> 00:33:51,140 # Around the next bend 555 00:33:51,140 --> 00:33:54,140 # The flowers will send 556 00:33:54,140 --> 00:33:58,700 # The sweet smell of my home in the breeze... # 557 00:33:58,700 --> 00:34:00,540 Linda and I are like sisters. 558 00:34:00,540 --> 00:34:03,460 Around the same age and we were coming up and had 559 00:34:03,460 --> 00:34:06,420 the same mutual, other musician friends and band members. 560 00:34:06,420 --> 00:34:09,460 You know, it was a community of artists, 561 00:34:09,460 --> 00:34:13,060 it wasn't sexually divided between just women and men, 562 00:34:13,060 --> 00:34:14,860 we weren't thinking in terms of that. 563 00:34:15,940 --> 00:34:19,220 Linda and Bonnie Raitt were two of the first women that 564 00:34:19,220 --> 00:34:21,980 I was able to see as a young journalist, 565 00:34:21,980 --> 00:34:25,580 and study the way they operated in this community. 566 00:34:25,580 --> 00:34:28,260 We're going to move into this world where we're running bands 567 00:34:28,260 --> 00:34:31,740 with guys in them, but we can also look after each other. 568 00:34:31,740 --> 00:34:35,940 I said, if I can have it on my terms and you understand 569 00:34:35,940 --> 00:34:40,540 I'm not going to be told how to dress or what music to make, great. 570 00:34:40,540 --> 00:34:43,460 We were all throwing away all those conventions, you know? 571 00:34:45,700 --> 00:34:48,340 The rock and roll culture's so male dominated, 572 00:34:48,340 --> 00:34:52,180 and it also seems to be dominated by hostility against women. 573 00:34:52,180 --> 00:34:53,940 This sort of...hmm... 574 00:34:55,900 --> 00:34:58,340 This sort of sexual identity, 575 00:34:58,340 --> 00:35:01,900 that's used as a weapon against the populace. 576 00:35:01,900 --> 00:35:05,420 Women in particular, and everyone identifies with it. 577 00:35:05,420 --> 00:35:07,700 And it's sort of sad to me because what happens 578 00:35:07,700 --> 00:35:14,700 is that rock and roll stars end up isolating themselves 579 00:35:14,700 --> 00:35:17,060 more and more and more, thereby increasing your own 580 00:35:17,060 --> 00:35:19,140 feelings of alienation and anxiety, 581 00:35:19,140 --> 00:35:21,260 and they wonder why they're so miserable. 582 00:35:21,260 --> 00:35:24,660 That's really when they turn to drugs and destroy themselves. 583 00:35:24,660 --> 00:35:28,180 It's just really silly. It just seems very silly. 584 00:35:28,180 --> 00:35:33,860 They lose the ability to focus on themselves as a person, 585 00:35:33,860 --> 00:35:35,660 rather than as an image. 586 00:35:35,660 --> 00:35:38,300 And that's very dangerous, I think. 587 00:35:38,300 --> 00:35:41,940 And there's always a lot of people around them - 588 00:35:41,940 --> 00:35:46,020 managers and scene makers, groupies and whatever - 589 00:35:46,020 --> 00:35:49,100 that are willing to indulge them in anything they want. 590 00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:52,940 And it weakens them, it weakens them as people, 591 00:35:52,940 --> 00:35:54,860 and eventually weakens them as musicians. 592 00:35:58,100 --> 00:36:02,580 # I've been warped by the rain, driven by the snow 593 00:36:02,580 --> 00:36:05,180 # I'm drunk and dirty, don't you know 594 00:36:05,180 --> 00:36:10,020 # But I'm still willin' 595 00:36:12,780 --> 00:36:16,180 # Out on the road, late last night 596 00:36:16,180 --> 00:36:20,460 # I see my pretty Alice in every headlight 597 00:36:20,460 --> 00:36:23,980 # Alice, Dallas Alice 598 00:36:25,780 --> 00:36:29,900 # And I've been from Tucson to Tucumcari 599 00:36:29,900 --> 00:36:33,500 # Tehachapi to Tonopah 600 00:36:33,500 --> 00:36:38,180 # Driven every kind of rig that's ever been made... # 601 00:36:38,180 --> 00:36:42,100 I was in New York and somebody said, you have to go and see 602 00:36:42,100 --> 00:36:44,620 this girl, she's amazing, she's one of the best things 603 00:36:44,620 --> 00:36:47,060 you'll ever hear, she's brilliant. 604 00:36:47,060 --> 00:36:49,380 She's incredibly great looking, 605 00:36:49,380 --> 00:36:52,980 she sings barefoot and will knock you out in every respect. 606 00:36:52,980 --> 00:36:54,860 And she did. 607 00:36:54,860 --> 00:37:01,980 # Whites and wine 608 00:37:01,980 --> 00:37:05,260 # And you show me a sign 609 00:37:05,260 --> 00:37:07,260 # And I'll be willin'... # 610 00:37:07,260 --> 00:37:09,620 I was running The Beatles' record label Apple. 611 00:37:09,620 --> 00:37:12,660 When Apple started to fall apart and the Beatles were 612 00:37:12,660 --> 00:37:14,340 breaking up and all of that, 613 00:37:14,340 --> 00:37:17,100 I went to America and there I was, being a manager. 614 00:37:18,700 --> 00:37:21,380 I wanted to go back to work as a record producer, 615 00:37:21,380 --> 00:37:23,740 so I suggested Linda go and meet with Peter, 616 00:37:23,740 --> 00:37:26,380 which we did, and he agreed to manage her. 617 00:37:28,020 --> 00:37:29,340 There was a high bar there. 618 00:37:29,340 --> 00:37:31,540 Peter Asher had hung around with The Beatles, 619 00:37:31,540 --> 00:37:34,780 he expected to make records that are huge successes. 620 00:37:34,780 --> 00:37:36,980 And he was poised to do that with Linda, 621 00:37:36,980 --> 00:37:40,460 and Geffen was ready to be the record company that would be there. 622 00:37:43,860 --> 00:37:45,580 I started Asylum Records 623 00:37:45,580 --> 00:37:48,500 and signed Jackson Browne and then started signing 624 00:37:48,500 --> 00:37:50,660 other artists and it turned into what it did. 625 00:37:53,540 --> 00:37:55,860 And I knew when I saw Linda in The Stone Poneys 626 00:37:55,860 --> 00:37:58,260 that she was going to make it, and she was going to make 627 00:37:58,260 --> 00:38:00,980 it as a solo artist, and I knew she was going to be a big star. 628 00:38:02,140 --> 00:38:04,460 She didn't think so. 629 00:38:04,460 --> 00:38:06,740 She had very little confidence in those days. 630 00:38:09,060 --> 00:38:11,300 Linda was feeling like she wasn't good enough 631 00:38:11,300 --> 00:38:12,500 to be on Asylum Records. 632 00:38:14,340 --> 00:38:17,060 I said to her that that was crazy. 633 00:38:18,780 --> 00:38:21,340 I'm never really satisfied with what I do. 634 00:38:21,340 --> 00:38:24,300 And lots of times, I hear that I did something wrong and it bothers me. 635 00:38:24,300 --> 00:38:26,500 It can ruin my day, really. 636 00:38:26,500 --> 00:38:29,580 Linda never thought she was as good as she was, 637 00:38:29,580 --> 00:38:32,740 and that is an interesting paradox, because she's 638 00:38:32,740 --> 00:38:35,420 confident about her ideas but not about herself 639 00:38:35,420 --> 00:38:36,980 and not about her singing. 640 00:38:38,980 --> 00:38:42,020 My involvement as a producer with Linda came when 641 00:38:42,020 --> 00:38:46,340 she was having trouble finishing the album that became Don't Cry Now. 642 00:38:46,340 --> 00:38:47,620 And that's when we decided 643 00:38:47,620 --> 00:38:50,740 that the next album I would produce was Heart Like A Wheel. 644 00:38:50,740 --> 00:38:55,980 # Some say a heart is just like a wheel 645 00:38:55,980 --> 00:38:59,660 # When you bend it, you can't mend it... # 646 00:38:59,660 --> 00:39:03,060 The McGarrigle Sisters, who were these two Canadian sisters, 647 00:39:03,060 --> 00:39:05,740 they were in an odd category, they didn't fit in pop music, 648 00:39:05,740 --> 00:39:07,860 they didn't fit in folk music, 649 00:39:07,860 --> 00:39:10,420 they didn't fit anywhere except they fit in my heart. 650 00:39:10,420 --> 00:39:13,340 We just heard Heart Like A Wheel and I went, I have to sing it. 651 00:39:14,820 --> 00:39:21,740 # When harm is done, no love can be won 652 00:39:21,740 --> 00:39:28,140 # I know it happens frequently... # 653 00:39:31,540 --> 00:39:35,980 Linda has the ability to hear a song and claim it. 654 00:39:35,980 --> 00:39:38,900 You claim it as your own, as a singer. 655 00:39:38,900 --> 00:39:42,300 If you love it like that, you get inside it, you become it. 656 00:39:42,300 --> 00:39:50,300 # But my love for you is like a sinking ship 657 00:39:50,300 --> 00:39:57,900 # And my heart is on that ship out in mid-ocean... # 658 00:40:02,260 --> 00:40:04,460 Heart Like A Wheel, she discovered that song, 659 00:40:04,460 --> 00:40:07,140 brought it to me, and I loved it. I thought it was beautiful. 660 00:40:07,140 --> 00:40:10,100 But I was also thinking in terms of, we should make some hits. 661 00:40:10,100 --> 00:40:13,820 # Feeling better now that we're through 662 00:40:13,820 --> 00:40:17,660 # Feeling better cos I'm over you... # 663 00:40:17,660 --> 00:40:20,140 I'm a ballad singer, I like to sing ballads best, 664 00:40:20,140 --> 00:40:22,620 but we needed some up-tempo songs for the record 665 00:40:22,620 --> 00:40:23,940 and, as an afterthought, 666 00:40:23,940 --> 00:40:26,940 I had this song that we'd use to close the show. 667 00:40:26,940 --> 00:40:30,380 # You're no good, you're no good, you're no good 668 00:40:30,380 --> 00:40:33,300 # Baby, you're no good 669 00:40:33,300 --> 00:40:35,580 # I'm gonna say it again 670 00:40:35,580 --> 00:40:39,460 # You're no good, you're no good, you're no good 671 00:40:39,460 --> 00:40:42,380 # Baby, you're no good... # 672 00:40:42,380 --> 00:40:44,940 She knew and loved the song, I knew and loved the song, 673 00:40:44,940 --> 00:40:47,500 and we decided to do a version of that song. 674 00:40:49,540 --> 00:40:55,380 I stayed up all night, assembling this very complicated, intricate, 675 00:40:55,380 --> 00:40:57,740 layered guitar piece. 676 00:40:57,740 --> 00:41:01,700 We worked very long into, like, the next afternoon. 677 00:41:01,700 --> 00:41:05,780 And that's when Linda turned up and didn't like it. 678 00:41:05,780 --> 00:41:08,660 She said, "No, I don't like it, it sounds like The Beatles." 679 00:41:08,660 --> 00:41:10,260 Which it did sound like The Beatles. 680 00:41:10,260 --> 00:41:12,100 But in the end, she came around and said, 681 00:41:12,100 --> 00:41:14,020 "You know what? I was wrong. It's great." 682 00:41:26,580 --> 00:41:31,340 # I'm turning you down, baby, and I'm going my way 683 00:41:31,340 --> 00:41:35,380 # Forget about you, baby, cos I'm leaving to stay... # 684 00:41:35,380 --> 00:41:39,380 Every song that I sing has a face that I sing it to, you know? 685 00:41:39,380 --> 00:41:42,900 And so, when something happens to me - 686 00:41:42,900 --> 00:41:45,740 it's really funny, I mean, I know so many songs - 687 00:41:45,740 --> 00:41:49,460 when something happens to me, the song will occur at the same time 688 00:41:49,460 --> 00:41:51,500 and I'll think, oh, this song or that song. 689 00:41:51,500 --> 00:41:53,820 And if it's a song I can sing, then I'll have to sing it. 690 00:41:53,820 --> 00:41:56,060 I'll just learn to sing it, I can't not sing it. 691 00:41:56,060 --> 00:42:00,620 # Today, I passed you on the street 692 00:42:00,620 --> 00:42:05,060 # And my heart fell at your feet 693 00:42:05,060 --> 00:42:12,700 # I can't help it if I'm still in love with you... # 694 00:42:12,700 --> 00:42:15,500 People would make the assumption that I was choosing the songs 695 00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:18,140 that we were doing on these records, or that I was working out 696 00:42:18,140 --> 00:42:20,460 the arrangements, or this, that and the other. 697 00:42:20,460 --> 00:42:22,020 And I would have to keep explaining 698 00:42:22,020 --> 00:42:24,780 that it was Linda and me, in that order. 699 00:42:24,780 --> 00:42:30,300 # I can't help it if I'm still in love with you... # 700 00:42:30,300 --> 00:42:32,700 My sister used to play all these Hank Williams records 701 00:42:32,700 --> 00:42:35,420 so I thought, I can do that. 702 00:42:35,420 --> 00:42:40,660 # A picture from the past came slowly stealing 703 00:42:40,660 --> 00:42:46,740 # As I brushed your arm and stood so close to you... # 704 00:42:46,740 --> 00:42:49,980 Linda knew a good song and she knew why it was good, and better 705 00:42:49,980 --> 00:42:52,980 than that, she knew how to sing it better than you could sing it. 706 00:42:52,980 --> 00:42:57,580 When you become that sharp of a song stylist, 707 00:42:57,580 --> 00:43:00,900 you get authorship in a certain way. 708 00:43:00,900 --> 00:43:03,420 I consider her a real auteur. 709 00:43:03,420 --> 00:43:06,260 She didn't write songs, but she made songs happen 710 00:43:06,260 --> 00:43:08,180 the way she wanted to hear them. 711 00:43:08,180 --> 00:43:13,700 # I can't help it if I'm still in love with you... # 712 00:43:13,700 --> 00:43:16,940 I Can't Help It If I'm Still In Love With You was a hit 713 00:43:16,940 --> 00:43:18,540 on the country charts. 714 00:43:18,540 --> 00:43:22,900 You're No Good was a hit on both the R&B chart and the pop chart. 715 00:43:22,900 --> 00:43:24,700 SO I became the first artist to have a hit on 716 00:43:24,700 --> 00:43:26,620 all three charts at the same time. 717 00:43:29,540 --> 00:43:31,660 APPLAUSE 718 00:43:31,660 --> 00:43:36,140 Heart Like A Wheel was a huge turning point for her. 719 00:43:36,140 --> 00:43:41,500 The avalanche of success was hitting everywhere. 720 00:43:41,500 --> 00:43:44,020 She was at the forefront of a kind of pop stardom 721 00:43:44,020 --> 00:43:46,380 that hadn't happened at that point, 722 00:43:46,380 --> 00:43:50,820 but people didn't notice the difficulty of being a woman, 723 00:43:50,820 --> 00:43:54,820 trailblazing, and having the success of a Mick Jagger. 724 00:44:03,620 --> 00:44:06,180 # People try to rape me 725 00:44:06,180 --> 00:44:08,340 # Always think I'm crazy 726 00:44:08,340 --> 00:44:12,940 # Make me burn the candle right down 727 00:44:12,940 --> 00:44:17,860 # Baby, I can't stay 728 00:44:17,860 --> 00:44:21,820 # Don't need your jewels in my frown 729 00:44:21,820 --> 00:44:26,340 # Now all you women are lowdown gamblers... # 730 00:44:26,340 --> 00:44:29,340 Now I had gigs in, like, big sporting arenas, 731 00:44:29,340 --> 00:44:31,820 you know, stadiums and stuff like that. 732 00:44:31,820 --> 00:44:33,860 I knew the name of every arena in the country. 733 00:44:33,860 --> 00:44:35,980 "We got a gig tonight at the Spectrum, in Philly. 734 00:44:35,980 --> 00:44:38,300 "We'll be at the Forum. Gig tomorrow night at the Garden." 735 00:44:38,300 --> 00:44:40,940 That's where we played. She was selling them all out. 736 00:44:40,940 --> 00:44:42,460 # Well, this lowdown bitching 737 00:44:42,460 --> 00:44:44,820 # Got my poor feet a-itching 738 00:44:44,820 --> 00:44:47,980 # Can't you see the deuce is still wild...? # 739 00:44:47,980 --> 00:44:51,540 She was very good, audience loved her, records sold. 740 00:44:51,540 --> 00:44:54,260 She was on an uphill swing all the time. 741 00:44:54,260 --> 00:44:56,740 # You got to roll me 742 00:44:56,740 --> 00:44:59,340 # And call me the tumbling dice... # 743 00:45:03,820 --> 00:45:07,820 When we did that tour together, we'd take turns closing and opening. 744 00:45:09,340 --> 00:45:12,780 You know, try following Linda Ronstadt every night! 745 00:45:12,780 --> 00:45:16,420 # Honey, got no money 746 00:45:16,420 --> 00:45:20,860 # Sixes and sevens and nines 747 00:45:20,860 --> 00:45:23,180 # Well, hey, now, baby 748 00:45:23,180 --> 00:45:25,140 # I'm the rank outsider... # 749 00:45:25,140 --> 00:45:27,940 I went to go see her at the Universal Amphitheatre 750 00:45:27,940 --> 00:45:30,820 when she was wearing her Boy Scouts outfit, and it was just rocking. 751 00:45:30,820 --> 00:45:32,820 # Baby... # 752 00:45:32,820 --> 00:45:37,620 Lin was able to be really feminine and sexy in this world of men, 753 00:45:37,620 --> 00:45:40,460 and somehow hold on to herself and do that, 754 00:45:40,460 --> 00:45:43,380 and use that in the best possible way. 755 00:45:45,060 --> 00:45:48,780 GUITAR SOLO PLAYS 756 00:45:54,740 --> 00:45:58,300 There was a lot of dudes running around the stages then, you know? 757 00:45:58,300 --> 00:46:01,260 But we were on the road with Linda, and killing it. 758 00:46:01,260 --> 00:46:03,220 She was killing every night. 759 00:46:06,900 --> 00:46:09,020 # You got to roll me... # 760 00:46:09,020 --> 00:46:11,500 I know they liked my singing and I know they were proud of what 761 00:46:11,500 --> 00:46:14,180 they were doing, but still, in rock and roll, the idea that you 762 00:46:14,180 --> 00:46:16,620 were actually working for a chick singer, in their way, 763 00:46:16,620 --> 00:46:19,420 they sort of saw it as not as cool as if they were their own 764 00:46:19,420 --> 00:46:22,060 rock and roll band and they were just all the guys. 765 00:46:23,900 --> 00:46:26,980 # Baby, baby, got to roll me... # 766 00:46:26,980 --> 00:46:29,020 There weren't a lot of women musicians, 767 00:46:29,020 --> 00:46:32,020 so it was always a band of guys, you know. 768 00:46:32,020 --> 00:46:35,060 There weren't women bass players and women guitar players, 769 00:46:35,060 --> 00:46:37,620 and sometimes, some of these guys were... 770 00:46:37,620 --> 00:46:39,660 They were tough. 771 00:46:41,140 --> 00:46:43,940 I got a lot tougher and more foul-mouthed. I used to swear a lot. 772 00:46:43,940 --> 00:46:45,860 I mean, I used to talk like a truck driver. 773 00:46:45,860 --> 00:46:48,260 When I think about the way I used to talk, I'm shocked. 774 00:46:51,740 --> 00:46:54,180 Without having any other girls along on the road, 775 00:46:54,180 --> 00:46:56,540 just automatically, you start to imitate them. 776 00:47:00,460 --> 00:47:04,340 Linda was never comfortable being on the road, but obviously, 777 00:47:04,340 --> 00:47:09,500 she did her job and part of her loved it. Who wouldn't love it? 778 00:47:09,500 --> 00:47:13,180 But I think there was another part of her that went, you know, 779 00:47:13,180 --> 00:47:15,420 this doesn't feel right. 780 00:47:15,420 --> 00:47:18,020 If I were going to choose something to do, it would not be 781 00:47:18,020 --> 00:47:20,500 to stand up in front of a lot of people, but I love to sing. 782 00:47:20,500 --> 00:47:23,060 I love to sing, I love music, so at some point, 783 00:47:23,060 --> 00:47:25,940 you do whatever you have to do, to do music. 784 00:47:25,940 --> 00:47:29,460 She would confess to me that if she saw people in the front row, 785 00:47:29,460 --> 00:47:33,580 right, and somebody leans over and says something to the person 786 00:47:33,580 --> 00:47:37,140 next to them, she thought they were saying, you know, 787 00:47:37,140 --> 00:47:40,940 "She's the worst singer I've ever heard. I don't like this." 788 00:47:40,940 --> 00:47:42,460 She really believed that. 789 00:47:44,180 --> 00:47:48,260 You get on the bus at night, card game going on, everybody blasting 790 00:47:48,260 --> 00:47:52,260 music, or everyone else drinking, you know, a lot of drugs around. 791 00:47:53,300 --> 00:47:55,900 A lot of people would go onstage completely hammered, 792 00:47:55,900 --> 00:47:57,660 completely fuckin' hammered. 793 00:47:57,660 --> 00:48:00,900 Everybody was up at night, and when the gig ended, 794 00:48:00,900 --> 00:48:03,140 you don't go home and have milk. 795 00:48:05,060 --> 00:48:07,540 It was kind of the night-time, danger, 796 00:48:07,540 --> 00:48:09,660 fun part about not having to go to bed. 797 00:48:09,660 --> 00:48:12,300 You know, if Keith Richards can do it, so can I. 798 00:48:12,300 --> 00:48:14,540 Linda's thing was diet pills. 799 00:48:16,500 --> 00:48:19,540 She went through a phase, mostly taking speed and not eating 800 00:48:19,540 --> 00:48:21,860 and being super skinny. 801 00:48:21,860 --> 00:48:24,100 It seemed like it was so hard to be out there 802 00:48:24,100 --> 00:48:27,380 day after day after day and to try to get up the energy 803 00:48:27,380 --> 00:48:31,300 to sort of do that when you were just wrung out from the sense 804 00:48:31,300 --> 00:48:33,460 of being dislocated from place. 805 00:48:35,460 --> 00:48:38,220 I was with a bunch of people that were basically earnest 806 00:48:38,220 --> 00:48:40,740 and basically honest, and the kind of paranoia 807 00:48:40,740 --> 00:48:44,100 that was introduced by drugs, it was so destructive in our ability 808 00:48:44,100 --> 00:48:47,380 to communicate with each other, and it really saddened me. 809 00:48:47,380 --> 00:48:49,780 And then at some point, we all just stopped. 810 00:48:49,780 --> 00:48:51,980 BASS PLAYS INTRO 811 00:48:51,980 --> 00:48:54,340 CROWD CHEERS 812 00:48:55,340 --> 00:49:00,500 # I feel so bad, I got a worried mind 813 00:49:01,820 --> 00:49:05,140 # I'm so lonesome all the time 814 00:49:06,780 --> 00:49:10,780 # Since I left my baby behind 815 00:49:10,780 --> 00:49:14,460 # On Blue Bayou 816 00:49:17,660 --> 00:49:21,780 # Saving nickles, saving dimes 817 00:49:22,940 --> 00:49:27,260 # Working till the sun don't shine 818 00:49:27,260 --> 00:49:31,820 # Looking forward to happier times 819 00:49:31,820 --> 00:49:34,620 # On Blue Bayou 820 00:49:36,940 --> 00:49:39,860 # I'm going back someday 821 00:49:39,860 --> 00:49:42,300 # Come what may 822 00:49:42,300 --> 00:49:45,340 # To Blue Bayou 823 00:49:47,580 --> 00:49:52,740 # Where the folks are fun and the world is mine 824 00:49:52,740 --> 00:49:56,700 # On Blue Bayou... # 825 00:49:56,700 --> 00:49:58,260 When Rolling Stone was ready 826 00:49:58,260 --> 00:50:00,260 to put Linda Ronstadt on the cover, 827 00:50:00,260 --> 00:50:03,860 that was her absolute peak up till then. 828 00:50:03,860 --> 00:50:08,460 # If I could only see... # 829 00:50:08,460 --> 00:50:11,100 Generally, it was a very male-oriented, 830 00:50:11,100 --> 00:50:13,740 denim-clad warrior cover. 831 00:50:13,740 --> 00:50:16,940 So, here comes Linda Ronstadt, 832 00:50:16,940 --> 00:50:21,060 and she and Annie Leibovitz put together this photo session that 833 00:50:21,060 --> 00:50:24,700 was like no other cover that had been on Rolling Stone before. 834 00:50:26,940 --> 00:50:28,900 She was honest... 835 00:50:31,780 --> 00:50:34,060 ..and opened her heart. 836 00:50:34,060 --> 00:50:38,900 She said, "This gets lonely, and I don't know where it ends up. 837 00:50:38,900 --> 00:50:42,340 "It's an emotional journey, and I'm happy that I've brought 838 00:50:42,340 --> 00:50:45,180 "this kind of joy, but you know what, when I'm here alone 839 00:50:45,180 --> 00:50:48,900 "in this Malibu home that looks very cosy, it's lonely." 840 00:50:48,900 --> 00:50:52,540 There's a lot of show business people down here, you know? 841 00:50:52,540 --> 00:50:55,860 It's not my style exactly. Where did you live before? 842 00:50:57,220 --> 00:51:00,060 Nowhere, really. I was on the road, you know, for about ten years, 843 00:51:00,060 --> 00:51:02,700 and I didn't exactly have a home. 844 00:51:03,700 --> 00:51:06,900 # On Blue 845 00:51:06,900 --> 00:51:09,580 # Ba... 846 00:51:09,580 --> 00:51:14,220 # ..you. # 847 00:51:16,780 --> 00:51:19,540 CROWD CHEERS 848 00:51:23,020 --> 00:51:27,140 Singing the national anthem here at Dodger Stadium, Miss Linda Ronstadt. 849 00:51:32,260 --> 00:51:34,380 # Can you see... # 850 00:51:34,380 --> 00:51:37,980 I remember my dad was watching her at the game. 851 00:51:37,980 --> 00:51:40,620 She sang the national anthem. 852 00:51:40,620 --> 00:51:44,700 # What so proudly we hail'd 853 00:51:44,700 --> 00:51:47,460 # At the twilight's last... # 854 00:51:47,460 --> 00:51:49,860 And all of a sudden, there she is. She'd come in the limo 855 00:51:49,860 --> 00:51:51,340 straight to the restaurant from 856 00:51:51,340 --> 00:51:53,020 the game to have something to eat. 857 00:51:53,020 --> 00:51:57,900 My parents had a small restaurant on Melrose Avenue, across the street 858 00:51:57,900 --> 00:52:02,580 from what was then KHJ Radio, which was the radio station in the day. 859 00:52:02,580 --> 00:52:06,020 Lindy walked in and my dad was wearing a shirt 860 00:52:06,020 --> 00:52:09,220 that we call in Mexico a guayabera, 861 00:52:09,220 --> 00:52:12,500 and it has four pockets and it's white, and she said, 862 00:52:12,500 --> 00:52:15,820 "This is a good place, because he's wearing the shirt my dad wears." 863 00:52:17,100 --> 00:52:21,100 A lot of people who hung out at the Troubadour also ate at Lucy's. 864 00:52:21,100 --> 00:52:25,460 Lucy was very, shall we say, loose with the cheque now and again, 865 00:52:25,460 --> 00:52:27,780 if we were on hard times. 866 00:52:27,780 --> 00:52:31,540 Our customers were not just the soon-to-be celebrities 867 00:52:31,540 --> 00:52:35,540 of the industries, they were the old guard of Los Angeles. 868 00:52:35,540 --> 00:52:38,900 I mean, you're talking old-school money. 869 00:52:38,900 --> 00:52:42,260 There was a big communal table that my father used to sit everybody at. 870 00:52:42,260 --> 00:52:44,820 So, you would sit with policemen, you would sit with firemen, 871 00:52:44,820 --> 00:52:46,780 sometimes you'd sit with an actor, sometimes... 872 00:52:46,780 --> 00:52:48,180 I mean, a football player... 873 00:52:48,180 --> 00:52:50,180 You never had any idea who you would sit with. 874 00:52:50,180 --> 00:52:53,980 What happened was, Linda had decided that she wanted to change 875 00:52:53,980 --> 00:52:56,620 the 8-track cos she wanted to hear something else, 876 00:52:56,620 --> 00:52:59,780 so she had to step up on this little wine rack. 877 00:52:59,780 --> 00:53:03,140 And at that moment, the Governor, Jerry Brown, comes in that room 878 00:53:03,140 --> 00:53:05,580 and he sees her and it was, like, 879 00:53:05,580 --> 00:53:08,980 "Wow! Who's she?" 880 00:53:08,980 --> 00:53:12,580 So, my father went and he sat them together. 881 00:53:13,980 --> 00:53:17,580 And, well, he fell in love with her, there was no question about that. 882 00:53:17,580 --> 00:53:21,060 Jerry likes passionate music. He likes passionate music, 883 00:53:21,060 --> 00:53:23,740 passionate women, you know, that's his deal. 884 00:53:23,740 --> 00:53:25,580 We had a really good time together. 885 00:53:28,020 --> 00:53:30,940 He went out to run for president for the last couple of months, 886 00:53:30,940 --> 00:53:33,580 and if it hadn't been for the fact that I got to see him on TV, 887 00:53:33,580 --> 00:53:36,900 I mean, I would have forgot what he looked like. So... 888 00:53:38,220 --> 00:53:41,340 But he came back yesterday, and he's going to make it all better now. 889 00:53:41,340 --> 00:53:44,460 APPLAUSE AND CHEERING 890 00:53:44,460 --> 00:53:47,340 So he told me, anyway. I've yet to see. 891 00:53:47,340 --> 00:53:49,220 DRUMS START 892 00:53:49,220 --> 00:53:52,420 # My boyfriend's back and you're gonna be in trouble 893 00:53:52,420 --> 00:53:54,220 # Hey, now 894 00:53:54,220 --> 00:53:55,980 # Hey, now, my boyfriend's back... # 895 00:53:55,980 --> 00:53:58,900 Did you have much of a problem when you were with Jerry Brown, 896 00:53:58,900 --> 00:54:02,420 people expecting you to have political views along the 897 00:54:02,420 --> 00:54:06,780 lines of Governor Brown's, whereas, you're a singer, he's a politician? 898 00:54:06,780 --> 00:54:08,700 Our relationship was completely personal, 899 00:54:08,700 --> 00:54:10,020 it wasn't political at all. 900 00:54:10,020 --> 00:54:12,580 So, you know, he did politics, I did music. Right. 901 00:54:12,580 --> 00:54:14,580 It's easy to separate that. 902 00:54:14,580 --> 00:54:16,580 Now, you went to South Africa recently. 903 00:54:16,580 --> 00:54:19,300 Did you receive criticism for going there? 904 00:54:19,300 --> 00:54:21,460 As far as I was concerned, it was just a gig. 905 00:54:21,460 --> 00:54:23,380 I don't think that if you disagree with 906 00:54:23,380 --> 00:54:26,180 the policies of the government, which I do very definitely disagree 907 00:54:26,180 --> 00:54:28,820 with policies of the South African government, I don't think 908 00:54:28,820 --> 00:54:31,260 that's enough of a reason not to go and play music there. 909 00:54:31,260 --> 00:54:33,540 If I did that, I wouldn't be able to play in the United States 910 00:54:33,540 --> 00:54:35,860 because I don't agree with their policies about nuclear power 911 00:54:35,860 --> 00:54:37,380 or nuclear warfare. 912 00:54:37,380 --> 00:54:40,260 I mean, my God, we've got this person running the country, 913 00:54:40,260 --> 00:54:42,140 you know, that I completely disagree with. 914 00:54:42,140 --> 00:54:45,060 If I decided that I wasn't going to play where attitudes 915 00:54:45,060 --> 00:54:48,500 of racism prevailed, I certainly couldn't play in Australia 916 00:54:48,500 --> 00:54:52,180 or England or lots of places in the United States, 917 00:54:52,180 --> 00:54:54,060 a lot of places in the American South, 918 00:54:54,060 --> 00:54:56,140 or Boston, which is extremely racist. 919 00:54:56,140 --> 00:54:58,660 I went to South Africa. It has a fascist, repressive government. 920 00:54:58,660 --> 00:55:00,540 I'm very interested in the culture down there. 921 00:55:00,540 --> 00:55:02,340 You've just got finished talking, you say, 922 00:55:02,340 --> 00:55:04,260 "Why does anyone think I'm controversial?" 923 00:55:04,260 --> 00:55:06,380 Do you realise what you've just talked about here? 924 00:55:06,380 --> 00:55:08,660 We've just received all your political views in one blow. 925 00:55:08,660 --> 00:55:10,660 I'm teasing, I'm not putting it down, honestly. 926 00:55:10,660 --> 00:55:12,940 I don't think my political views are very controversial. 927 00:55:12,940 --> 00:55:14,980 Who likes nuclear warfare? 928 00:55:14,980 --> 00:55:17,340 I remember her having the Wall Street Journal in her bag 929 00:55:17,340 --> 00:55:19,700 one time in the '70s when she was dating Jerry, 930 00:55:19,700 --> 00:55:22,740 and I went... You know, I'd thought she was really smart, 931 00:55:22,740 --> 00:55:24,340 but she's really well read 932 00:55:24,340 --> 00:55:26,900 and very, very up on a lot of different things. 933 00:55:26,900 --> 00:55:29,980 She's as wide-ranging in her critical, 934 00:55:29,980 --> 00:55:33,460 intellectual pursuits, as she is in her musical pursuits, 935 00:55:33,460 --> 00:55:38,340 and you don't find that kind of depth and eclecticism in pop music. 936 00:55:39,940 --> 00:55:45,260 Jerry needed somebody that could be full-time there for him. 937 00:55:45,260 --> 00:55:48,700 You couldn't have two careers in that family. 938 00:55:48,700 --> 00:55:51,140 # I never will marry... # 939 00:55:51,140 --> 00:55:52,900 There's not enough time. 940 00:55:52,900 --> 00:55:56,100 # I'll be no man's wife 941 00:55:56,100 --> 00:55:59,460 # I intend to stay single 942 00:56:00,580 --> 00:56:03,980 # For the rest of my life... # 943 00:56:03,980 --> 00:56:07,420 I mean, the same reason I never got married! 944 00:56:07,420 --> 00:56:10,460 I don't know, I think it's hard being a woman in the music business. 945 00:56:10,460 --> 00:56:13,740 You know, it's... It's a different kind of life. 946 00:56:13,740 --> 00:56:17,100 # And the rushing deep waters 947 00:56:17,100 --> 00:56:21,260 # Went over my head. # 948 00:56:21,260 --> 00:56:23,940 Well, you don't need to get married. You know what I mean? 949 00:56:23,940 --> 00:56:25,700 It's like, we have our own income, 950 00:56:25,700 --> 00:56:29,180 and you don't have to have the state verify that you love somebody, 951 00:56:29,180 --> 00:56:31,700 and when that relationship is over, you leave. 952 00:56:31,700 --> 00:56:34,460 Neither one of us are really made for marriage 953 00:56:34,460 --> 00:56:37,460 or, I think, long-term relationships. 954 00:56:37,460 --> 00:56:39,180 So, why did you break up? 955 00:56:39,180 --> 00:56:41,780 I can't remember. Maybe she could tell you. 956 00:56:41,780 --> 00:56:45,460 # It's so easy to fall in love 957 00:56:45,460 --> 00:56:50,260 # It's so easy to fall in love 958 00:56:50,260 --> 00:56:54,460 # People tell me love's for fools 959 00:56:54,460 --> 00:56:58,020 # Here I go breaking all the rules 960 00:56:58,020 --> 00:57:00,620 # It seems so easy It's so easy... # 961 00:57:00,620 --> 00:57:03,500 My mum wanted to be a scientist, but she had four kids, 962 00:57:03,500 --> 00:57:07,060 and I think that it was always a little bit of a disappointment. 963 00:57:07,060 --> 00:57:09,620 # It's so easy to fall in love... # 964 00:57:09,620 --> 00:57:12,460 She always said to me, "Go out and have a life." You know, 965 00:57:12,460 --> 00:57:15,020 you don't just have to get married. There are alternatives. 966 00:57:15,020 --> 00:57:18,700 # It's so easy to fall in love 967 00:57:18,700 --> 00:57:22,900 # It's so easy to fall in love. # 968 00:57:22,900 --> 00:57:24,700 APPLAUSE AND CHEERING 969 00:57:24,700 --> 00:57:27,740 I have to confess, I got a really bad crush on this guy. 970 00:57:27,740 --> 00:57:31,540 We had a little romance for a while, but it wasn't long-lived. 971 00:57:31,540 --> 00:57:33,060 He dumped me for this pig. 972 00:57:33,060 --> 00:57:35,500 Well, at least I got his picture. 973 00:57:38,380 --> 00:57:42,540 # Does he love me, I want to know 974 00:57:42,540 --> 00:57:46,140 # How can I tell if he loves me so? 975 00:57:46,140 --> 00:57:48,100 # Is it in his eyes? 976 00:57:48,100 --> 00:57:50,540 # Oh, no, you make believe 977 00:57:50,540 --> 00:57:52,500 # Is it in his sighs? 978 00:57:52,500 --> 00:57:54,900 # Well, no, you'd be deceived 979 00:57:54,900 --> 00:57:56,780 # If you wanna know Shoop, shoop, shoop, shoop 980 00:57:56,780 --> 00:57:58,460 # If he loves you so Shoop, shoop, shoop 981 00:57:58,460 --> 00:58:02,060 # It's in his kiss That's where it is! # 982 00:58:02,060 --> 00:58:03,460 APPLAUSE 983 00:58:03,460 --> 00:58:04,780 To present the nominees 984 00:58:04,780 --> 00:58:07,860 for Favourite Female in Rock and Pop 985 00:58:07,860 --> 00:58:11,540 are Teddy Pendergrass and Tanya Tucker. 986 00:58:11,540 --> 00:58:14,140 The nominees are... Linda Ronstadt. 987 00:58:14,140 --> 00:58:16,460 APPLAUSE 988 00:58:16,460 --> 00:58:18,620 Miss Barbra Streisand. 989 00:58:18,620 --> 00:58:21,060 APPLAUSE 990 00:58:21,060 --> 00:58:23,940 And Donna Summer. 991 00:58:23,940 --> 00:58:25,900 You open the envelope, I'm too nervous. 992 00:58:25,900 --> 00:58:28,620 I'll do the gentlemanly thing here, and I'll open it, 993 00:58:28,620 --> 00:58:31,100 if you will read. OK. And the winner is... 994 00:58:31,100 --> 00:58:33,180 ..Linda Ronstadt. 995 00:58:33,180 --> 00:58:35,820 APPLAUSE 996 00:58:37,380 --> 00:58:40,980 Linda was the Queen. She was like what Beyonce is now. 997 00:58:43,060 --> 00:58:46,100 She was the first female rock and roll star. 998 00:58:46,100 --> 00:58:47,940 # Want love? 999 00:58:49,700 --> 00:58:51,780 # Get closer... # 1000 00:58:51,780 --> 00:58:57,660 She was the only female artist to have five platinum albums in a row, 1001 00:58:57,660 --> 00:59:00,060 and most of them multiplatinum. 1002 00:59:00,060 --> 00:59:02,940 # Hold her hand... # 1003 00:59:02,940 --> 00:59:06,020 For Favourite Female in Rock and Pop... 1004 00:59:06,020 --> 00:59:07,500 ..Favourite Country Single... 1005 00:59:07,500 --> 00:59:09,740 ..Blue Bayou, by Linda Ronstadt. 1006 00:59:09,740 --> 00:59:10,980 And the winner is... 1007 00:59:10,980 --> 00:59:13,500 It's another one! ..Linda Ronstadt. The winner is... 1008 00:59:13,500 --> 00:59:15,500 ..Linda Ronstadt. 1009 00:59:15,500 --> 00:59:18,860 # You make a fuss when her eyes ain't on you 1010 00:59:18,860 --> 00:59:22,420 # Well, give her something to look forward to 1011 00:59:22,420 --> 00:59:26,300 # Remember all those other girls who ran... # 1012 00:59:26,300 --> 00:59:28,820 The nature of being a pop musician is that you get 1013 00:59:28,820 --> 00:59:31,540 these things that are successful, then you have to sing them 1014 00:59:31,540 --> 00:59:34,100 for the rest of your life, over and over and over again, 1015 00:59:34,100 --> 00:59:36,700 and they start sounding like your washing machine. 1016 00:59:36,700 --> 00:59:38,900 # Want love... # 1017 00:59:38,900 --> 00:59:41,300 I didn't like singing in the big arenas, 1018 00:59:41,300 --> 00:59:44,980 because the sound was, like, you know, you'd hear the guitar solo 1019 00:59:44,980 --> 00:59:47,980 that they played last week still ringing around the rafters. 1020 00:59:50,380 --> 00:59:52,980 So, I started looking for other things to do. 1021 00:59:57,300 --> 01:00:00,460 There is this feeling that she has about the music itself, 1022 01:00:00,460 --> 01:00:02,940 rather than the career itself. 1023 01:00:02,940 --> 01:00:06,660 You know, some people are just hard-core careerists, 1024 01:00:06,660 --> 01:00:08,860 and there's nothing wrong with that. 1025 01:00:08,860 --> 01:00:12,380 You know, it's how your mind works that makes the difference. 1026 01:00:12,380 --> 01:00:14,700 It's your... How you see yourself 1027 01:00:14,700 --> 01:00:17,740 or how you see yourself in the world, you know? 1028 01:00:17,740 --> 01:00:20,860 And not everybody is a pure art for art's sake, 1029 01:00:20,860 --> 01:00:23,100 and not everybody's a pure careerist, either, 1030 01:00:23,100 --> 01:00:25,940 especially in music, because musicians love music, 1031 01:00:25,940 --> 01:00:27,260 or they wouldn't do it. 1032 01:00:30,540 --> 01:00:34,660 She wanted a change. She got tired of doing arena rock. 1033 01:00:34,660 --> 01:00:36,660 She wanted to try different things. 1034 01:00:38,340 --> 01:00:41,180 I picked up the phone and called my great friend John Rockwell, 1035 01:00:41,180 --> 01:00:44,220 who writes music criticism for the New York Times. 1036 01:00:44,220 --> 01:00:47,260 I said, "I hate playing these big sporting arenas. 1037 01:00:47,260 --> 01:00:50,020 "It's not good for the audience, it's not good for the band. 1038 01:00:50,020 --> 01:00:53,380 "I want to sing in a theatre with a proscenium and a curtain." 1039 01:00:53,380 --> 01:00:55,580 He said, "Well, the next time you come to New York, 1040 01:00:55,580 --> 01:00:58,900 "I'll take you down to make this fella named Joseph Papp. 1041 01:00:58,900 --> 01:01:01,620 "He has a theatre. It's called the New York Public Theater, 1042 01:01:01,620 --> 01:01:04,940 and he does Shakespeare and he does musicals, he did Hair." 1043 01:01:04,940 --> 01:01:08,100 He wanted to do the Pirates of Penzance. 1044 01:01:08,100 --> 01:01:10,460 My mum was a Gilbert and Sullivan lover. 1045 01:01:10,460 --> 01:01:14,500 She had a big book of Gilbert and Sullivan songs on the piano, 1046 01:01:14,500 --> 01:01:18,540 and I actually learned all the soprano parts as a kid. 1047 01:01:18,540 --> 01:01:20,860 And I loved singing them, 1048 01:01:20,860 --> 01:01:23,060 but I never got a chance to in rock and roll. 1049 01:01:24,220 --> 01:01:27,540 That was in her roots, that was in her upbringing, 1050 01:01:27,540 --> 01:01:30,940 it was part of her authentic musical experience. 1051 01:01:32,420 --> 01:01:36,100 Joe called me and said, if I wanted to do the part, I could have it. 1052 01:01:36,100 --> 01:01:38,020 And I said, "No, I have to come and audition," 1053 01:01:38,020 --> 01:01:40,660 because I didn't know whether I could sing it or not. 1054 01:01:40,660 --> 01:01:43,900 She wanted to be certain that she would do it well. 1055 01:01:43,900 --> 01:01:46,260 They thought being able to say Linda Ronstadt's in it 1056 01:01:46,260 --> 01:01:47,580 would be good for business. 1057 01:01:47,580 --> 01:01:50,660 But her concern was, well, will it be good for the show? 1058 01:01:50,660 --> 01:01:52,940 SHE SINGS HIGH SOPRANO NOTE 1059 01:01:54,860 --> 01:01:57,500 I was there for several rehearsals and she was fabulous. 1060 01:01:57,500 --> 01:01:59,380 She just grabbed it by the horns and... 1061 01:02:00,620 --> 01:02:04,780 HIGH SOPRANO NOTE 1062 01:02:04,780 --> 01:02:06,620 That was the first job I was ever offered 1063 01:02:06,620 --> 01:02:08,420 where I actually got to sing like that. 1064 01:02:08,420 --> 01:02:11,140 I was delighted, I really was, but I can't really do it very well yet. 1065 01:02:11,140 --> 01:02:13,580 Because it's really hard, you can't learn that overnight. 1066 01:02:13,580 --> 01:02:15,380 You've got to be in training. In training, yep. 1067 01:02:15,380 --> 01:02:19,300 # Poor wandering ones... # 1068 01:02:19,300 --> 01:02:23,380 Linda had a great voice and she had a great vision for herself, 1069 01:02:23,380 --> 01:02:26,740 and she didn't want to just be singing rock and roll. 1070 01:02:26,740 --> 01:02:28,260 She wanted to do everything. 1071 01:02:29,300 --> 01:02:32,420 # Hold, monsters! 1072 01:02:32,420 --> 01:02:35,300 # Ere your pirate caravanserai 1073 01:02:35,300 --> 01:02:39,260 # Proceed against our will to wed us all 1074 01:02:39,260 --> 01:02:43,780 # Just bear in mind that we are wards in Chancery 1075 01:02:43,780 --> 01:02:47,780 # And father is a Major General... # 1076 01:02:47,780 --> 01:02:49,500 I knew some of her songs, sure, 1077 01:02:49,500 --> 01:02:52,740 but operetta? 1078 01:02:52,740 --> 01:02:59,980 # Prepare, unhappy General Stanley...# 1079 01:02:59,980 --> 01:03:02,580 A week into rehearsal, we all sang through the score, 1080 01:03:02,580 --> 01:03:04,420 just sitting in a circle on chairs, 1081 01:03:04,420 --> 01:03:06,580 and when I heard her voice 1082 01:03:06,580 --> 01:03:08,140 it was just... 1083 01:03:08,140 --> 01:03:10,140 ..this bel canto, 1084 01:03:10,140 --> 01:03:12,020 soprano, 1085 01:03:12,020 --> 01:03:13,780 gorgeous, 1086 01:03:13,780 --> 01:03:15,300 musical... 1087 01:03:16,820 --> 01:03:19,180 ..celestial yet earthy, 1088 01:03:19,180 --> 01:03:22,380 just pure, it was so pure, it just made me cry. 1089 01:03:22,380 --> 01:03:25,180 I just remember just listening to that voice, it was just... 1090 01:03:25,180 --> 01:03:27,220 Singing that stuff? 1091 01:03:30,060 --> 01:03:31,300 Touching. 1092 01:03:31,300 --> 01:03:35,180 # Oh, sisters, deaf to pity's name, for shame, 1093 01:03:35,180 --> 01:03:39,180 # It's true that he has gone astray, but pray 1094 01:03:39,180 --> 01:03:41,700 # Is that a reason good and true 1095 01:03:41,700 --> 01:03:49,500 # Why you should all be deaf to pity's name? # 1096 01:03:49,500 --> 01:03:52,460 Gilbert and Sullivan? Really? 1097 01:03:52,460 --> 01:03:55,300 A rock star who has the guts to go out there 1098 01:03:55,300 --> 01:03:58,460 and do that kind of musical comedy? 1099 01:03:58,460 --> 01:04:00,020 She just didn't care. 1100 01:04:00,020 --> 01:04:02,740 To her, it was like a mountain to climb. 1101 01:04:02,740 --> 01:04:07,940 # Oh, oh, oh 1102 01:04:07,940 --> 01:04:13,260 # Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh 1103 01:04:13,260 --> 01:04:18,220 # Oh, oh, oh, oh... # 1104 01:04:18,220 --> 01:04:21,380 Linda can bring herself to sing anything. 1105 01:04:21,380 --> 01:04:24,820 She could sing opera, she could do anything with her voice. 1106 01:04:24,820 --> 01:04:26,380 I couldn't do all that. 1107 01:04:26,380 --> 01:04:31,500 # Take 1108 01:04:31,500 --> 01:04:39,300 # Heart! # 1109 01:04:39,300 --> 01:04:41,260 Kevin Kline and I were both nominated 1110 01:04:41,260 --> 01:04:42,940 for Tony Awards for that show. 1111 01:04:42,940 --> 01:04:44,660 Kevin deserved it more than I did. 1112 01:04:44,660 --> 01:04:46,500 All I did was walk around and sing. 1113 01:04:53,900 --> 01:04:55,820 My mom died during Pirates Of Penzance. 1114 01:04:58,100 --> 01:04:59,980 I wasn't with her when she died, 1115 01:04:59,980 --> 01:05:02,700 and I just couldn't quite get it through my head that she was 1116 01:05:02,700 --> 01:05:05,580 gone out of the world and I was never going to see her again. 1117 01:05:08,100 --> 01:05:09,580 She'd had all these records, 1118 01:05:09,580 --> 01:05:12,060 Louis Armstrong, Ella Fitzgerald, 1119 01:05:12,060 --> 01:05:14,380 Billie Holiday, Peggy Lee, 1120 01:05:14,380 --> 01:05:17,580 and I thought, "I'd like to try to sing some of those songs." 1121 01:05:17,580 --> 01:05:22,700 # Only the lonely go... # 1122 01:05:22,700 --> 01:05:26,100 When we lived together, almost every evening, the last record 1123 01:05:26,100 --> 01:05:28,500 we listened to was a Frank Sinatra album called 1124 01:05:28,500 --> 01:05:30,140 Songs For Only The Lonely 1125 01:05:30,140 --> 01:05:32,180 with Nelson Riddle arranging. 1126 01:05:34,860 --> 01:05:37,460 Constantly, people were telling Linda, 1127 01:05:37,460 --> 01:05:39,140 "You can't do this." 1128 01:05:39,140 --> 01:05:40,540 I'm guilty. 1129 01:05:40,540 --> 01:05:43,020 When she was going to do the Nelson Riddle album, 1130 01:05:43,020 --> 01:05:45,340 I didn't think it was a good idea, 1131 01:05:45,340 --> 01:05:48,180 not because she couldn't do it, but because 1132 01:05:48,180 --> 01:05:52,340 we had this run going with rock and roll records and country rock. 1133 01:05:53,980 --> 01:05:57,380 I said, "I'd like to find somebody that can write and arrange like Nelson Riddle." 1134 01:05:57,380 --> 01:06:00,660 He said, "Why don't you just ask Nelson Riddle?" 1135 01:06:00,660 --> 01:06:03,580 Well, I didn't know he was still alive. 1136 01:06:03,580 --> 01:06:06,140 You are the only person that I knew that could do 1137 01:06:06,140 --> 01:06:07,700 orchestrations like this. 1138 01:06:07,700 --> 01:06:09,220 I didn't know where you were, 1139 01:06:09,220 --> 01:06:11,180 whether you'd be interested in working with me, 1140 01:06:11,180 --> 01:06:13,900 whether you'd ever heard of me or not, and as soon as I started 1141 01:06:13,900 --> 01:06:16,300 learning the songs, I just... They just got inside me. 1142 01:06:16,300 --> 01:06:18,060 I wanted to record them and I wanted to do it 1143 01:06:18,060 --> 01:06:19,940 worse than anything I've ever wanted to do. 1144 01:06:19,940 --> 01:06:22,140 I remember your phrase for this. You said, 1145 01:06:22,140 --> 01:06:24,900 "These are songs I cannot not do." 1146 01:06:24,900 --> 01:06:26,580 I can't not do them. At some point... 1147 01:06:26,580 --> 01:06:28,420 It's like falling in love, you know? 1148 01:06:28,420 --> 01:06:30,260 Choice doesn't even enter into it. 1149 01:06:30,260 --> 01:06:34,700 # What's new? 1150 01:06:34,700 --> 01:06:38,860 # How is the world 1151 01:06:38,860 --> 01:06:42,380 # Treating you? # 1152 01:06:42,380 --> 01:06:44,980 I would think, "Well, my God, how can I sing these songs? 1153 01:06:44,980 --> 01:06:47,700 "Ella Fitzgerald has sung them, Billie Holliday has sung them, 1154 01:06:47,700 --> 01:06:49,180 "Frank Sinatra has sung them." 1155 01:06:51,660 --> 01:06:54,580 # Handsome as ever... # 1156 01:06:54,580 --> 01:06:57,180 She studied all of those records 1157 01:06:57,180 --> 01:07:00,220 and she studied every available version she could find 1158 01:07:00,220 --> 01:07:01,700 of each one of those songs. 1159 01:07:01,700 --> 01:07:03,940 She is a real student. 1160 01:07:03,940 --> 01:07:07,140 # What's new? 1161 01:07:07,140 --> 01:07:13,740 # How did that romance come through? # 1162 01:07:13,740 --> 01:07:16,540 She told me she wanted to get those songs out of the elevator, 1163 01:07:16,540 --> 01:07:19,700 by which she meant that that's the only place you heard them, 1164 01:07:19,700 --> 01:07:22,740 and she wanted to point out that that's not where they belong, 1165 01:07:22,740 --> 01:07:24,780 that they were some of the best songs ever written. 1166 01:07:24,780 --> 01:07:29,420 # Pardon my asking what's new... # 1167 01:07:30,380 --> 01:07:33,660 I went to her house and tried to talk her out of it, 1168 01:07:33,660 --> 01:07:36,980 but as soon as she told me Nelson Riddle was going to do it, 1169 01:07:36,980 --> 01:07:40,140 I said, "Well, I'd like to come to the record session." 1170 01:07:40,140 --> 01:07:44,220 XYLOPHONE AND HARP PLAY 1171 01:07:45,500 --> 01:07:49,260 # Please... # 1172 01:07:49,260 --> 01:07:52,420 When my sister was in high school, she got to go to her senior prom, 1173 01:07:52,420 --> 01:07:55,380 she got to wear these strapless dresses with a lot of tulle, 1174 01:07:55,380 --> 01:07:57,220 and I always wanted one of those dresses. 1175 01:07:59,220 --> 01:08:02,180 But by the time I got to high school, the styles had changed, 1176 01:08:02,180 --> 01:08:05,020 and I never got to have one, so I said, "I'm going to put a show together, 1177 01:08:05,020 --> 01:08:07,300 "we're all going to get to wear those dresses." 1178 01:08:07,300 --> 01:08:11,860 # So dream 1179 01:08:11,860 --> 01:08:15,940 # Dream 1180 01:08:15,940 --> 01:08:23,580 # Dream. # 1181 01:08:24,860 --> 01:08:26,380 This is a real treat tonight. 1182 01:08:26,380 --> 01:08:29,900 We have three marvellous singers on the show, and do you know 1183 01:08:29,900 --> 01:08:32,620 how many times they have been nominated for Grammys between them? 1184 01:08:32,620 --> 01:08:34,300 45 times in total. 1185 01:08:34,300 --> 01:08:35,980 APPLAUSE 1186 01:08:35,980 --> 01:08:36,980 And... 1187 01:08:38,740 --> 01:08:41,180 ..the albums they've all sold are in the multimillions, 1188 01:08:41,180 --> 01:08:43,380 and I guess it's taken the ladies about ten years to get 1189 01:08:43,380 --> 01:08:46,060 this together where they wanted to work together, 1190 01:08:46,060 --> 01:08:49,180 and made an album called Trio, and it was well worth the time. 1191 01:08:49,180 --> 01:08:51,860 The album is described as old-timey, but it's sensational. 1192 01:08:51,860 --> 01:08:54,940 Would you welcome Linda Ronstadt, Dolly Parton and Emmylou Harris. 1193 01:08:54,940 --> 01:08:56,900 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1194 01:09:02,420 --> 01:09:05,620 I'd met Dolly. I saw her singing on the Grand Ole Opry 1195 01:09:05,620 --> 01:09:07,140 and she was a wonder to behold. 1196 01:09:07,140 --> 01:09:10,100 What you have in front of you is one of the most beautiful girls 1197 01:09:10,100 --> 01:09:12,420 you've ever seen, you know, she's just gorgeous. 1198 01:09:13,580 --> 01:09:15,500 When she opened her mouth and started to sing, 1199 01:09:15,500 --> 01:09:18,180 I fell on the floor. She's an amazing singer. 1200 01:09:18,180 --> 01:09:23,300 # Jolene, Jolene, Jolene, Jolene 1201 01:09:23,300 --> 01:09:28,620 # I'm begging of you, please, don't take my man... # 1202 01:09:29,620 --> 01:09:33,180 I told Emmylou about her and then Emmy met her somehow. 1203 01:09:33,180 --> 01:09:35,060 # Jolene... # 1204 01:09:35,060 --> 01:09:38,900 When I made my first trip to Nashville, the powers that be 1205 01:09:38,900 --> 01:09:42,660 set up a meeting with Dolly, and she was making a record in her studio 1206 01:09:42,660 --> 01:09:45,140 and it was, like, unbelievable, 1207 01:09:45,140 --> 01:09:47,740 it was better than any Disneyland visit. 1208 01:09:47,740 --> 01:09:50,300 # And eyes of emerald green... # 1209 01:09:50,300 --> 01:09:52,260 They kind of found my music somewhere 1210 01:09:52,260 --> 01:09:56,540 and kind of wanted to meet me and that's kind of how we all started. 1211 01:09:57,860 --> 01:09:59,220 Emmy called me up and she said, 1212 01:09:59,220 --> 01:10:01,620 "Dolly Parton's at my house. You have to come over." 1213 01:10:01,620 --> 01:10:04,940 I was living like 40 minutes away, and I got there in 20 minutes. 1214 01:10:04,940 --> 01:10:08,300 She came over, and there we were, the three of us, 1215 01:10:08,300 --> 01:10:10,460 and we were there with our idol, Dolly. 1216 01:10:10,460 --> 01:10:11,940 And they had this big old house, 1217 01:10:11,940 --> 01:10:14,260 almost like a bunch of hippies just living up there, 1218 01:10:14,260 --> 01:10:16,940 different people, good musicians. They had different bedrooms. 1219 01:10:16,940 --> 01:10:20,740 It was just a free-for-all kind of house, a dream for musicians. 1220 01:10:20,740 --> 01:10:24,180 And somebody said, "Well, sing something." 1221 01:10:24,180 --> 01:10:28,380 # Bury me beneath the willow 1222 01:10:28,380 --> 01:10:31,660 # Under the weeping willow tree 1223 01:10:31,660 --> 01:10:35,860 # So he may know where I am sleeping 1224 01:10:35,860 --> 01:10:39,140 # And perhaps he'll weep for me. # 1225 01:10:39,140 --> 01:10:40,500 So I started singing that 1226 01:10:40,500 --> 01:10:42,620 and then they started saying, "Sing that again." 1227 01:10:42,620 --> 01:10:45,220 # Oh, bury me... # And here come all these harmonies 1228 01:10:45,220 --> 01:10:47,860 and, oh, it was just chilling, chilling, chilling. 1229 01:10:47,860 --> 01:10:50,500 # Bury me beneath the willow 1230 01:10:50,500 --> 01:10:54,340 # Under the weeping willow tree 1231 01:10:54,340 --> 01:10:59,580 # Where he may know where I am sleeping 1232 01:10:59,580 --> 01:11:03,180 # And perhaps he'll weep for me... # 1233 01:11:03,180 --> 01:11:05,580 When we heard our voices, 1234 01:11:05,580 --> 01:11:07,820 it was like injecting some kind of serum 1235 01:11:07,820 --> 01:11:11,100 into your veins. It was like a high like you've never felt. 1236 01:11:11,100 --> 01:11:13,060 We sang first in a living room and said, 1237 01:11:13,060 --> 01:11:16,420 "Well, this sounds really good." It was special, it was different when we sang together. 1238 01:11:16,420 --> 01:11:18,580 It was special. It was like a sister, 1239 01:11:18,580 --> 01:11:20,940 the sound of sisters, musical sisters. 1240 01:11:20,940 --> 01:11:26,380 # Won't you bury me beneath the willow 1241 01:11:26,380 --> 01:11:30,140 # Under the weeping willow tree 1242 01:11:30,140 --> 01:11:32,620 # Where he may know... # 1243 01:11:32,620 --> 01:11:35,860 At that moment, we thought, "We have to do a record." 1244 01:11:38,340 --> 01:11:41,700 # To know, know, know him 1245 01:11:41,700 --> 01:11:46,140 # Is to love, love, love him 1246 01:11:46,140 --> 01:11:50,860 # Just to see him smile 1247 01:11:50,860 --> 01:11:54,140 # Makes my life worthwhile 1248 01:11:54,140 --> 01:11:56,140 # To know, know, know... # 1249 01:11:56,140 --> 01:12:00,020 We learned so much about singing from each other because you get to sort of be them for a second 1250 01:12:00,020 --> 01:12:02,740 when you're shadowing them in a harmony and you get to have like a... 1251 01:12:02,740 --> 01:12:04,260 It's like getting on an eagle 1252 01:12:04,260 --> 01:12:07,140 and getting to see the world through that eagle's experience. 1253 01:12:07,140 --> 01:12:10,980 I get to sing through Dolly's voice or sing through Emmy's voice when I sing real close harmony. 1254 01:12:10,980 --> 01:12:18,820 # Why can't you see 1255 01:12:18,820 --> 01:12:22,380 # How... # 1256 01:12:22,380 --> 01:12:24,500 The only big disagreements would be, 1257 01:12:24,500 --> 01:12:27,700 "Are we going to use autoharp or dulcimer on this song?" 1258 01:12:27,700 --> 01:12:29,380 Yeah. 1259 01:12:29,380 --> 01:12:31,740 Sometimes we would disagree about who would sing lead 1260 01:12:31,740 --> 01:12:34,100 cos Emmy and I always want Dolly to sing lead on everything. 1261 01:12:34,100 --> 01:12:36,180 "Dolly will sound great on that." 1262 01:12:36,180 --> 01:12:38,340 It's like, "You sing lead!" "No, you sing lead." 1263 01:12:40,580 --> 01:12:43,060 Linda is such a perfectionist. 1264 01:12:43,060 --> 01:12:46,620 She's a pain in the ass sometimes because she is such a perfectionist, 1265 01:12:46,620 --> 01:12:49,220 cos she will not have it unless it's perfect. 1266 01:12:49,220 --> 01:12:52,220 She used to make me sing those harmonies over and over and over 1267 01:12:52,220 --> 01:12:55,460 and I said, "I'm going to sing it the same way, no matter what." 1268 01:12:55,460 --> 01:12:57,700 "No, you're not, you're going to hit this one note." 1269 01:12:57,700 --> 01:12:58,980 See, I don't know how to... 1270 01:12:58,980 --> 01:13:01,740 All those intricate harmonies like Emmylou and Linda do. 1271 01:13:01,740 --> 01:13:04,700 I just sing that raw stuff from feeling, 1272 01:13:04,700 --> 01:13:07,500 and it ain't always proper, but it sounds good. 1273 01:13:07,500 --> 01:13:11,540 # Yes, just to know him 1274 01:13:11,540 --> 01:13:15,580 # Is to love, love, love him 1275 01:13:15,580 --> 01:13:21,780 # And I do. # 1276 01:13:21,780 --> 01:13:25,020 Linda, you've sung just about all types of music. 1277 01:13:25,020 --> 01:13:28,860 Light opera, you've been on Broadway, rock and roll, pop. 1278 01:13:28,860 --> 01:13:30,540 What's your next project going to be? 1279 01:13:30,540 --> 01:13:34,620 I'm going to do an album of Mexican music, of traditional Mexican music. 1280 01:13:34,620 --> 01:13:37,060 I'm kind of a traditional Mexican myself, you know, 1281 01:13:37,060 --> 01:13:39,380 I grew up about 40 minutes from the Mexican border, 1282 01:13:39,380 --> 01:13:42,140 my family are Mexican and that is my roots, 1283 01:13:42,140 --> 01:13:43,740 that's what I came from 1284 01:13:43,740 --> 01:13:46,220 and I have been dying to do this record for years and years 1285 01:13:46,220 --> 01:13:48,700 and I'm getting round to it this year, boy, I'm going to do it. 1286 01:13:50,340 --> 01:13:57,620 # Intensa nostalgia invade mi pensamiento... # 1287 01:13:57,620 --> 01:14:00,340 Our neighbour that lived behind us in the garage apartment, 1288 01:14:00,340 --> 01:14:03,060 him was Harry Dean Stanton, a great character actor, 1289 01:14:03,060 --> 01:14:06,060 and a great singer of Mexican folk songs. 1290 01:14:06,060 --> 01:14:09,100 We would hear him up till the wee hours 1291 01:14:09,100 --> 01:14:11,620 singing these Mexican folk songs, these canciones. 1292 01:14:11,620 --> 01:14:13,220 And, um... 1293 01:14:13,220 --> 01:14:15,660 ..Linda knew all those songs. 1294 01:14:15,660 --> 01:14:18,180 I don't think people thought of her as, er... 1295 01:14:19,300 --> 01:14:21,100 ..as Mexican. 1296 01:14:21,100 --> 01:14:23,860 It certainly never came up. I never heard it. 1297 01:14:23,860 --> 01:14:27,180 I mean, the name Ronstadt is not Hernandez. 1298 01:14:27,180 --> 01:14:29,100 Ronstadt is a German-sounding name. 1299 01:14:29,100 --> 01:14:33,260 No, she's certainly from Mexican heritage, 1300 01:14:33,260 --> 01:14:35,180 but it wasn't the most apparent thing. 1301 01:14:35,180 --> 01:14:37,380 You know what? I want to see where you put your D. 1302 01:14:37,380 --> 01:14:39,500 Say "ganador." 1303 01:14:39,500 --> 01:14:42,460 # Ga... # 1304 01:14:42,460 --> 01:14:43,900 It's the phrasing. 1305 01:14:43,900 --> 01:14:47,020 # Ganador 1306 01:14:47,020 --> 01:14:49,140 # Ganador-r-r-r. # 1307 01:14:49,140 --> 01:14:50,660 Dorrr. Dorrr. Dorrr. Uh-huh. 1308 01:14:50,660 --> 01:14:53,220 Is it up on the roof of your mouth, the back of your teeth, or...? 1309 01:14:53,220 --> 01:14:54,740 Dorrr. Dorrr. 1310 01:14:54,740 --> 01:14:57,980 When he asked me if I would sing a harmony on his record, 1311 01:14:57,980 --> 01:14:59,780 I was completely delighted 1312 01:14:59,780 --> 01:15:02,260 because you can only learn by doing, you know, I can't... 1313 01:15:03,500 --> 01:15:05,540 There isn't a book you can get, you know, say, 1314 01:15:05,540 --> 01:15:07,540 "How do you learn how to be a singer in Spanish?" 1315 01:15:07,540 --> 01:15:09,700 And it's always been a dream of mine 1316 01:15:09,700 --> 01:15:13,380 to make an album of these Mexican songs that I learned from my father. 1317 01:15:13,380 --> 01:15:20,660 HE SINGS IN SPANISH 1318 01:15:20,660 --> 01:15:22,620 My father had a beautiful baritone voice. 1319 01:15:22,620 --> 01:15:26,020 He sounded like a cross between Pedro Infante and Frank Sinatra. 1320 01:15:27,660 --> 01:15:30,180 Always, you know, if there was a dinner party or something, 1321 01:15:30,180 --> 01:15:32,500 he'd get the guitar out, and then he'd just sing, 1322 01:15:32,500 --> 01:15:34,860 and I always would fall asleep in somebody's lap, 1323 01:15:34,860 --> 01:15:37,100 listening to my dad sing some beautiful song. 1324 01:15:40,060 --> 01:15:42,700 We always, as a family, we always sang in Spanish. 1325 01:15:42,700 --> 01:15:45,900 Even though I didn't understand much of what I was singing, 1326 01:15:45,900 --> 01:15:47,380 it was something that I learned to do. 1327 01:15:47,380 --> 01:15:49,140 It's kind of like lip-reading, you know? 1328 01:15:49,140 --> 01:15:52,020 I used to kind of chameleon in harmony along with my father. 1329 01:15:52,020 --> 01:15:57,860 BOTH: # Asi prolongan el final... # 1330 01:15:57,860 --> 01:16:01,460 To learn to sing that style as a grown-up, professional singer, 1331 01:16:01,460 --> 01:16:02,580 that took some doing. 1332 01:16:05,700 --> 01:16:10,740 # Su triste juego del amor 1333 01:16:12,820 --> 01:16:20,820 # Donde el silencio es ganador... # 1334 01:16:29,580 --> 01:16:32,060 Si. Vamos. I always forget the beginning when I go through 1335 01:16:32,060 --> 01:16:35,460 the ending and it makes it so hard! High five, high five. Oh, yeah. 1336 01:16:35,460 --> 01:16:38,220 Is it this way? Is that how you do it? The Latin way? 1337 01:16:38,220 --> 01:16:40,860 OK, I've got it. Ya esta obligado. 1338 01:16:40,860 --> 01:16:42,700 OK, I'm learning all these new things. 1339 01:16:42,700 --> 01:16:46,900 # La, la, la, la... # 1340 01:16:50,620 --> 01:16:53,460 My dad invited me to go to the Tucson Mariachi Conference. 1341 01:16:53,460 --> 01:16:55,500 And that way I got to meet the Mariachi Vargas. 1342 01:16:59,380 --> 01:17:02,340 Those good bands, like the Cobre or the Camperos, 1343 01:17:02,340 --> 01:17:04,580 or the Mariachi Vargas, you're going to go to a symphony 1344 01:17:04,580 --> 01:17:06,380 and you're not going to find better musicians. 1345 01:17:06,380 --> 01:17:08,060 They're all virtuoso players. 1346 01:17:14,380 --> 01:17:16,900 I picked a couple of songs. The band said, 1347 01:17:16,900 --> 01:17:20,660 "These songs are very traditional and they're very difficult to do." 1348 01:17:21,740 --> 01:17:25,060 I said, "Well, that's the only songs I know, so we'd better learn them." 1349 01:17:32,420 --> 01:17:34,260 I went to the president of my record company, 1350 01:17:34,260 --> 01:17:35,780 who's a man who genuinely likes music, 1351 01:17:35,780 --> 01:17:38,020 and I said, "Look, I've made all these records for you, 1352 01:17:38,020 --> 01:17:40,660 "they've sold this. I'm going to do this just for me, you know? 1353 01:17:40,660 --> 01:17:43,140 "And this might be self-indulgent. If it sells two copies, 1354 01:17:43,140 --> 01:17:46,300 "I don't care, but if I can't record this music, I'm going to die." 1355 01:17:46,300 --> 01:17:51,020 I don't understand any Spanish, I didn't understand how popular 1356 01:17:51,020 --> 01:17:56,500 those songs were, but this is a lady who wanted to do it her way, 1357 01:17:56,500 --> 01:17:59,060 and who was going to say no? 1358 01:17:59,060 --> 01:18:05,780 # Ay! que rechula es la fiesta 1359 01:18:05,780 --> 01:18:09,140 # La fiesta charra, fiesta del sol 1360 01:18:11,220 --> 01:18:17,660 # Donde los charros valientes 1361 01:18:17,660 --> 01:18:23,460 # Dan con su canto la evocacion 1362 01:18:23,460 --> 01:18:29,300 # El jaripeo es un festejo 1363 01:18:29,300 --> 01:18:31,620 # Que huele a zurco y a tradicion... # 1364 01:18:31,620 --> 01:18:34,500 Canciones De Mi Padre, it's the largest selling 1365 01:18:34,500 --> 01:18:37,460 Spanish language album in the history of the industry. 1366 01:18:37,460 --> 01:18:41,580 That's the whole Linda Ronstadt story right there in a nutshell - 1367 01:18:41,580 --> 01:18:44,180 Linda deciding she wants to do something, 1368 01:18:44,180 --> 01:18:46,980 the record company telling her she can't, 1369 01:18:46,980 --> 01:18:49,460 she goes ahead and does it anyway 1370 01:18:49,460 --> 01:18:53,420 and they jump on board as the thing starts to take off. 1371 01:18:53,420 --> 01:18:55,460 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1372 01:18:55,460 --> 01:18:57,740 Toda la familia would come, and they loved it, 1373 01:18:57,740 --> 01:19:00,620 because they were here from Mexico, 1374 01:19:00,620 --> 01:19:03,380 even though their kids had grown up here 1375 01:19:03,380 --> 01:19:05,460 and become American citizens. 1376 01:19:05,460 --> 01:19:08,420 "Who is this girl singing songs so beautifully?" 1377 01:19:08,420 --> 01:19:15,100 # Ya comenzo el jaripeo 1378 01:19:15,100 --> 01:19:17,860 # La gente aplaude con emocion... # 1379 01:19:17,860 --> 01:19:19,660 The fact that she went on and did that 1380 01:19:19,660 --> 01:19:21,740 and did it in such a big way, 1381 01:19:21,740 --> 01:19:24,020 that was a brave thing to do. 1382 01:19:24,020 --> 01:19:25,540 Many people would have been terrified. 1383 01:19:25,540 --> 01:19:27,780 "I'll mess up my career," you know? 1384 01:19:27,780 --> 01:19:30,820 But obviously, she had purpose, 1385 01:19:30,820 --> 01:19:33,060 personal decision. 1386 01:19:33,060 --> 01:19:34,460 It's good. 1387 01:19:34,460 --> 01:19:41,700 # Que huele a zurco y a tradicion 1388 01:19:41,700 --> 01:19:43,620 # Remedo de la faena 1389 01:19:43,620 --> 01:19:45,980 # Mas admirada de mi nacion 1390 01:19:45,980 --> 01:19:49,500 # Bonito es el jaripeo y cuanta su animacion 1391 01:19:49,500 --> 01:19:53,340 # Yo quiero montar un toro para que mire mi amor 1392 01:19:53,340 --> 01:19:56,820 # Upa yupa yu! Y upa! 1393 01:19:56,820 --> 01:20:00,420 # Yo quiero montar un toro pa' que me mire mi amor 1394 01:20:00,420 --> 01:20:06,540 # Ay! Ay! Ay! # 1395 01:20:06,540 --> 01:20:10,340 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1396 01:20:12,140 --> 01:20:15,220 To have that traditionalism going along on the bus with me 1397 01:20:15,220 --> 01:20:17,540 from town to town, where I'd only sung pop music, 1398 01:20:17,540 --> 01:20:20,020 to take that part of the dirt with me, you know, 1399 01:20:20,020 --> 01:20:22,340 the part of the soil of the land where I came from 1400 01:20:22,340 --> 01:20:25,660 to Cleveland and Cincinnati and New York, that was a thrill. 1401 01:20:25,660 --> 01:20:27,820 You should have seen Central Park with, you know, 1402 01:20:27,820 --> 01:20:29,740 close to a million people in it. 1403 01:20:29,740 --> 01:20:32,020 When the mariachi got up onstage with their big hats, 1404 01:20:32,020 --> 01:20:34,060 the place fell out. They went nuts, you know? 1405 01:20:34,060 --> 01:20:36,860 There was such a thing of pride that went from the stage 1406 01:20:36,860 --> 01:20:38,700 to the audience, it was just great. 1407 01:20:40,700 --> 01:20:43,780 This song was written by me and my father, 1408 01:20:43,780 --> 01:20:46,380 and it's called Lo Siento Mi Vida. 1409 01:20:46,380 --> 01:20:50,940 # Lo siento mi vida... # 1410 01:20:52,220 --> 01:20:55,860 My dad died when he was 84. 1411 01:20:55,860 --> 01:20:58,620 There was a kind of a peace that happened when he died. 1412 01:21:00,780 --> 01:21:02,780 In the three or four days before he died, 1413 01:21:02,780 --> 01:21:06,900 he was reading to us passages from Gabriel Garcia Marquez's book 1414 01:21:06,900 --> 01:21:10,140 Love In The Time Of Cholera, and it was just a great sharing. 1415 01:21:12,980 --> 01:21:16,060 It was a different experience being with my father when he died, 1416 01:21:16,060 --> 01:21:17,380 than it was with my mother. 1417 01:21:18,860 --> 01:21:22,380 I knew I was going to miss him, but I accepted it better. 1418 01:21:22,380 --> 01:21:32,460 # Siempre separar. # 1419 01:21:33,140 --> 01:21:36,340 He had what I would describe as a beautiful death. 1420 01:21:40,700 --> 01:21:42,980 I'd seen her on TV, and I thought she was great, 1421 01:21:42,980 --> 01:21:46,460 but when she came to New Orleans, she was just... 1422 01:21:46,460 --> 01:21:48,340 Just so down-to-earth and, you know, 1423 01:21:48,340 --> 01:21:51,140 girl next door thing, you know? 1424 01:21:51,140 --> 01:21:53,140 And just humble. 1425 01:21:53,140 --> 01:21:55,780 She was just a sweet, humble person. 1426 01:21:57,420 --> 01:21:59,540 I'd been in New Orleans for the World's Fair, 1427 01:21:59,540 --> 01:22:02,180 and somebody said, "Well, The Neville Brothers are playing 1428 01:22:02,180 --> 01:22:04,300 "at some club down in the Quarter. We should go." 1429 01:22:04,300 --> 01:22:06,780 We're going to get serious-serious right now. 1430 01:22:06,780 --> 01:22:09,740 I'm going to turn you on to our brother Aaron Neville. 1431 01:22:09,740 --> 01:22:12,740 Aaron Neville was onstage singing this beautiful song, Arianne. 1432 01:22:12,740 --> 01:22:18,100 # Arianne is April morning 1433 01:22:18,100 --> 01:22:22,020 # That comes rippling through my window 1434 01:22:22,020 --> 01:22:25,740 # She's the smell of coffee brewing 1435 01:22:25,740 --> 01:22:30,220 # On a quiet, rainy Sunday... # 1436 01:22:30,220 --> 01:22:32,020 Somebody told me she was in the audience, 1437 01:22:32,020 --> 01:22:35,260 so I called her up onstage, to sing a duet. 1438 01:22:36,260 --> 01:22:38,180 Usually, I'll never do anything like that, 1439 01:22:38,180 --> 01:22:40,380 because I like to rehearse everything first, 1440 01:22:40,380 --> 01:22:42,820 but I wasn't going to say no to Aaron Neville. 1441 01:22:42,820 --> 01:22:45,060 After that, I asked for her autograph. 1442 01:22:45,060 --> 01:22:46,740 She said, "To Aaron, love. 1443 01:22:46,740 --> 01:22:50,140 "I'll sing with you any time, any place, anywhere, in any key." 1444 01:22:57,020 --> 01:22:58,700 # Look at this face... # 1445 01:22:58,700 --> 01:23:00,740 The next morning, I woke up and my first thought was, 1446 01:23:00,740 --> 01:23:03,540 "Boy, I liked singing with Aaron Neville. That sounded pretty good." 1447 01:23:03,540 --> 01:23:05,500 And then I thought, "You idiot, everybody sounds good 1448 01:23:05,500 --> 01:23:07,140 "when they're singing with Aaron Neville." 1449 01:23:07,140 --> 01:23:08,900 # I still don't know where it's going... # 1450 01:23:08,900 --> 01:23:11,820 I said, "We've got to make a record together." And he was up for it. 1451 01:23:11,820 --> 01:23:15,020 # I don't know much 1452 01:23:15,020 --> 01:23:18,860 BOTH: # But I know I love you 1453 01:23:21,100 --> 01:23:28,060 # And that may be all I need to know... # 1454 01:23:28,060 --> 01:23:31,100 They had all kinds of rumours going on on that one. 1455 01:23:32,140 --> 01:23:35,820 They said, "Oh, Linda and Aaron got married," or whatever. 1456 01:23:35,820 --> 01:23:37,700 It was just crazy stuff. 1457 01:23:37,700 --> 01:23:40,420 # Look at these dreams 1458 01:23:40,420 --> 01:23:44,620 # So beat and so battered 1459 01:23:44,620 --> 01:23:46,660 # I don't know much... # 1460 01:23:46,660 --> 01:23:49,060 The producer told us, "If you don't make it look real, 1461 01:23:49,060 --> 01:23:50,900 "ain't no sense in doing it," 1462 01:23:50,900 --> 01:23:53,020 so, you know, we had to make it look real. 1463 01:23:54,820 --> 01:24:03,340 # And that may be all there is to know 1464 01:24:03,340 --> 01:24:05,420 # Who-o-oa. # 1465 01:24:05,420 --> 01:24:08,420 At the studio, I said, 1466 01:24:08,420 --> 01:24:10,220 "I'll see you at the Grammys." 1467 01:24:10,220 --> 01:24:13,980 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1468 01:24:15,020 --> 01:24:18,340 I had a speech, but I'm...I'm...I'm... 1469 01:24:18,340 --> 01:24:19,500 ..too nervous. 1470 01:24:19,500 --> 01:24:22,020 I just want to say thank you to Linda first. 1471 01:24:22,020 --> 01:24:23,260 LINDA WHISPERS 1472 01:24:23,260 --> 01:24:25,940 And my wife Joel. LAUGHTER 1473 01:24:25,940 --> 01:24:30,180 Aaron and I won two Grammys for that record. 1474 01:24:30,180 --> 01:24:32,820 But as time went on, there was 1475 01:24:32,820 --> 01:24:34,740 something really wrong with my voice. 1476 01:24:37,460 --> 01:24:41,340 I just lost a lot of different colours in my voice. 1477 01:24:41,340 --> 01:24:43,500 There's a lot of things you do in singing, 1478 01:24:43,500 --> 01:24:47,300 you turn your voice to different planes to make different sounds, 1479 01:24:47,300 --> 01:24:48,820 and I couldn't do any of that. 1480 01:24:52,380 --> 01:24:54,140 It turned out I had Parkinson's disease. 1481 01:24:57,060 --> 01:24:59,220 Singing is really complex, 1482 01:24:59,220 --> 01:25:02,100 and I was made most aware of it by having it vanish. 1483 01:25:03,660 --> 01:25:06,700 I could still sing in my mind, but I can't do it physically. 1484 01:25:09,500 --> 01:25:13,700 I sang my last concert on November 7th, 2009. 1485 01:25:13,700 --> 01:25:14,900 It was a Mexican show. 1486 01:25:16,940 --> 01:25:18,620 It must have been quite a... 1487 01:25:19,660 --> 01:25:23,660 Quite a reckoning, to have this marvellous instrument 1488 01:25:23,660 --> 01:25:26,860 that could always hold the notes, hit the notes and shape the notes, 1489 01:25:26,860 --> 01:25:29,820 could no longer hold the notes without quaver. 1490 01:25:32,260 --> 01:25:36,620 But there's a lot of good records with her magnificent voice on them, 1491 01:25:36,620 --> 01:25:38,820 and I hear her laughing in my head 1492 01:25:38,820 --> 01:25:41,940 all the time, I hear that cackle all the time, so... 1493 01:25:41,940 --> 01:25:43,420 ..I'm sort of never without her. 1494 01:25:46,660 --> 01:25:50,260 I can imagine that not being able to sing, for Linda, is awful. 1495 01:25:51,380 --> 01:25:57,300 But I also know of nobody who could handle that kind of change 1496 01:25:57,300 --> 01:26:00,580 or adjustment in a more logical and thoughtful 1497 01:26:00,580 --> 01:26:02,260 and intelligent way than Linda. 1498 01:26:04,740 --> 01:26:07,340 I don't think she misses going on the road. 1499 01:26:07,340 --> 01:26:09,340 I don't think she misses making records. 1500 01:26:11,700 --> 01:26:14,060 I think she misses singing with her friends, 1501 01:26:14,060 --> 01:26:17,380 and singing in the living room with her family. 1502 01:26:19,940 --> 01:26:23,700 There's just no-one on the planet that ever had or ever 1503 01:26:23,700 --> 01:26:25,500 will have a voice like Linda's. 1504 01:26:37,860 --> 01:26:39,860 You know, I'm grateful for the time I had. 1505 01:26:39,860 --> 01:26:43,620 I got to live a lot of my dreams and I feel lucky about it. 1506 01:26:46,100 --> 01:26:47,900 Another person with Parkinson's said 1507 01:26:47,900 --> 01:26:50,940 that life after death isn't the question. 1508 01:26:52,220 --> 01:26:53,620 It's life before death. 1509 01:26:56,820 --> 01:26:58,740 So how are you going to do it? 1510 01:26:58,740 --> 01:27:00,580 How are you going to live? 1511 01:27:29,900 --> 01:27:32,620 THEY SING IN SPANISH: 1512 01:27:54,460 --> 01:27:56,140 Hang on... 1513 01:27:57,340 --> 01:27:59,180 Got to find a part, there. 1514 01:27:59,180 --> 01:28:00,860 Um, start right there? 1515 01:28:06,020 --> 01:28:07,620 HER VOICE QUAVERS 1516 01:28:09,140 --> 01:28:12,580 I don't even have that note in my speaking range any more. 1517 01:28:12,580 --> 01:28:16,180 You said before... You said you couldn't sing any more. 1518 01:28:16,180 --> 01:28:18,500 This isn't really singing. 1519 01:28:18,500 --> 01:28:20,740 Believe me, it's a few notes, sketched in, 1520 01:28:20,740 --> 01:28:22,540 but it's not really singing. 1521 01:28:22,540 --> 01:28:24,140 Are you enjoying it? 1522 01:28:24,140 --> 01:28:26,500 Well, I would enjoy it much more if I could sing, 1523 01:28:26,500 --> 01:28:28,540 but I can't let them sing this without me. 1524 01:28:28,540 --> 01:28:30,620 It's a family thing. 1525 01:28:30,620 --> 01:28:32,340 Shall we? Yeah. Are you guys ready? 1526 01:29:49,340 --> 01:29:50,980 LINDA CHUCKLES 1527 01:29:50,980 --> 01:29:55,180 Do we get to eat? Yeah. Yes. Oh, good. 1528 01:29:55,180 --> 01:29:57,940 # I've been cheated 1529 01:29:57,940 --> 01:30:01,500 # Been mistreated 1530 01:30:01,500 --> 01:30:07,420 ALL: # When will I be loved? 1531 01:30:09,140 --> 01:30:12,540 # I've been put down 1532 01:30:12,540 --> 01:30:16,140 # I've been pushed round 1533 01:30:16,140 --> 01:30:21,460 # When will I be loved? 1534 01:30:23,180 --> 01:30:26,740 # When I find a new man 1535 01:30:26,740 --> 01:30:29,460 # That I want for mine 1536 01:30:29,460 --> 01:30:33,300 # He always breaks my heart in two 1537 01:30:33,300 --> 01:30:39,140 # It happens every time 1538 01:30:39,140 --> 01:30:42,620 # I've been made blue 1539 01:30:42,620 --> 01:30:46,620 # I've been lied to 1540 01:30:46,620 --> 01:30:51,860 # When will I be loved? 1541 01:31:07,500 --> 01:31:10,980 # When I find a new man 1542 01:31:10,980 --> 01:31:14,260 # That I want for mine 1543 01:31:14,260 --> 01:31:17,660 # He always breaks my heart in two 1544 01:31:17,660 --> 01:31:23,660 # It happens every time, oh 1545 01:31:23,660 --> 01:31:26,940 # I've been cheated 1546 01:31:26,940 --> 01:31:30,500 # Been mistreated 1547 01:31:30,500 --> 01:31:36,260 # When will I be loved? 1548 01:31:37,980 --> 01:31:42,900 # When will I be loved? 1549 01:31:42,900 --> 01:31:45,020 # Tell me 1550 01:31:45,020 --> 01:31:55,100 # When will I be loved? # 1551 01:31:58,340 --> 01:32:05,220 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1552 01:32:05,220 --> 01:32:11,900 MUSIC: Still Within The Sound Of My Voice by Linda Ronstadt 1553 01:32:11,900 --> 01:32:16,740 # Where have you gone, my darling one? 1554 01:32:16,740 --> 01:32:20,020 # Are you on your own? 1555 01:32:20,020 --> 01:32:23,140 # Are you having fun? 1556 01:32:23,140 --> 01:32:29,260 # Is there someone to hold when you need it bad? 1557 01:32:29,260 --> 01:32:38,620 # Is it uncontrolled like the love we had? 1558 01:32:38,620 --> 01:32:44,220 # Does a day go by like a memory? 1559 01:32:44,220 --> 01:32:50,380 # Do you ever try to remember me 1560 01:32:50,380 --> 01:32:56,500 # In an automobile or a crowded bar? 1561 01:32:56,500 --> 01:33:05,220 # Well, I hope you're all right, wherever you are 1562 01:33:05,220 --> 01:33:14,620 # And if you're still within the sound of my voice over some radio 1563 01:33:14,620 --> 01:33:22,300 # I just want you to know you were always my only choice 1564 01:33:24,220 --> 01:33:30,260 # And wherever you go, that I still love you so 1565 01:33:30,260 --> 01:33:34,940 # If you're still within the sound of my voice... # 128461

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