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CHEERING
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Right now, I'd like you to meet a young lady,
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a very lovely young lady, that I really think
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has what it takes to be around
for a long, long time to come.
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I'd like for you to meet Miss Linda Ronstadt!
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# Feeling better now that we're through
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# Feeling better cos I'm over you
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# Learned my lesson, it left a scar
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# Now I see how you really are
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# You're no good, you're no good, you're no good
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# Baby, you're no good
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# I'm gonna say it again
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# You're no good, you're no good, you're no good
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# Baby, you're no good... #
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Here's a gal who really sings great.
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We had her on the show last year
and she was sensational.
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My first guest occupies a prominent
place in the top 40 record charts
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and she has a big one right now.
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Linda Ronstadt is one of the really
great talents in country music.
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Would you welcome, please, Linda Ronstadt.
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Ladies and gentlemen, Miss Linda Ronstadt!
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# I'm turning you down, baby, and I'm going my way
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# Forget about you, baby, cos I'm leaving to stay
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# You're no good... #
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Linda could literally sing anything.
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# You're no good... #
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I don't think anybody has tried
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more different styles and nailed it then Linda has.
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There's not that many people that can pull off
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new wave music and rock and those beautiful country ballads.
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Her range is huge.
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She decided what she wanted to do.
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And more important,
what she was authentic at doing.
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And they always told her,
"No, you can't do this,
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"you'll ruin your career."
She did it anyway.
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# Good. #
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CHEERING
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Someone once asked me
why people sing.
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I answered that they sing for many
of the same reasons birds sing.
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They sing for a mate,
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to claim their territory,
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or simply to give voice
to the delight of being alive
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in the midst of a beautiful day.
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They sing so the subsequent
generations won't forget
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what the current generations
endured or dreamed or delighted in.
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There are a lot of really good
singers out in the world,
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a lot of better singers than I am.
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What I did that was different
from other singers,
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I did a whole lot of
different kinds of material.
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People would think that I was
trying to reinvent myself
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but I never invented myself
to start with,
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I just kind of popped out
into the world.
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My mom grew up in Michigan.
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Her dad was an inventor.
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He was the third to Thomas Edison
in the number of
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useful inventions in the '50s.
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He invented the electric stove,
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the electric toaster,
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the thermostat, for Westinghouse.
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But my grandmother
had Parkinson's disease
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and he spent all his money
trying to find a cure.
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And that's what I have now.
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My mom was really smart too.
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She wanted to study math
and physics,
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and the University of Arizona was
really good for that,
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so she came out to Tucson,
where she met my father.
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My great-grandfather,
Friedrich Ronstadt,
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came from Germany to Mexico in 1839.
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My father's father, Federico,
moved to Tucson when he was 14,
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to work as a wagon maker.
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But his true passion was music.
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MARIACHI MUSIC PLAYS
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So he started the
Club Filarmonico Tucsonense.
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He was the one who wrote the
arrangements and taught everybody
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how to play their instruments.
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He was like The Music Man.
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If you wanted to serenade
your sweetheart,
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you'd get my grandfather's band
to go.
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And if you had a wedding
or a funeral,
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well, they'd show up for that.
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First time that my mother
ever saw my dad,
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he was riding his horse
up the steps of her sorority house.
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My dad had a lovely
baritone/tenor voice.
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He knew a lot of beautiful
Mexican love songs
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that were rooted in his childhood.
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He serenaded my mother underneath
her balcony.
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And she fell big for him.
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# I'm a rambler
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# I'm a gambler
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# I'm a long way from home
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# If you people don't like me
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# You can leave me alone... #
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I grew up in Tucson,
on the last ten acres
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of my grandfather's cattle ranch.
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We were very isolated,
so if you wanted entertainment,
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you kind of had to make your own.
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There was a lot of music going
on in that house.
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Some of it came in through
the radio,
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that was my best friend in
the world.
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# What you got cooking?
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# How's about cooking...? #
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We had amazing radio in Tucson
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because it was really close
to the border.
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WOMAN SINGING IN SPANISH
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We could get
the Louisiana Hayride...
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# Get going, Louisiana Hayride
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# No use calling the roll... #
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..American standards...
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# Can't help loving
that man of mine... #
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..but my grandmother and grandfather
were classical music devotees.
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OPERATIC SINGING
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So I would go over to their house on
Saturday morning and listen
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to a live broadcast
from the Metropolitan Opera.
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And come home and my dad would be
playing Mexican songs on the piano.
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My mom would be playing
some Gilbert and Sullivan piece.
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My sister loved Hank Williams,
she loved country music.
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# I can't help it if
I'm still in love with you... #
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My brother would be singing
really high soprano.
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He was in a world-class boys choir
and he was their soloist.
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She wanted to know how to sing that
way, so I taught her.
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So she learned about vibrato
and all that kind of stuff
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when she was like five,
six years old.
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We learned so much
about singing from each other.
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It was completely incorporated
into what we did.
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We sang at the dinner table,
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we sang in the car, we sang with our
hands in the dishwater.
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I thought Spanish was
this magical, musical language.
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When I was growing up,
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I thought people sang in Spanish
and spoke in English.
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If you spoke Spanish on the
playground, you'd be punished,
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you weren't allowed to do it.
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My sister and brother and I
eventually formed a little group,
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we called ourselves
The New Union Ramblers.
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We thought that sounded folky.
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Bobby Kimmel was a guitar player
that I met in Tucson.
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He wrote songs
about his own life.
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I remember them being one of the
best vocal groups I'd ever heard.
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Bobby joined our family group.
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And then he and I used
to play as a duet sometimes.
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We played little clubs in Tucson,
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but there wasn't very
much opportunity for us there.
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At some point, reality stepped in.
My sister had three kids.
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And then my brother went
to work for the police department.
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Bobby wanted to earn some
money playing music,
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so he went off to California.
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And I was the last man standing.
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# All the leaves are brown
All the leaves are brown
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# And the sky is grey... #
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I went to LA with the intention
of forming a band.
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When I saw the quality
of the singers that were out there,
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I started writing to Linda,
saying,
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"If you come out, we could
form a band and get a record deal."
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I knew they had more clubs
to play in Los Angeles.
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I was telling her, "This is
kind of an iffy thing.
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"You might starve to death or you
might find yourself
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"washing dishes and waiting tables
before you ever get discovered."
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She says, "I'm willing
to take the chance."
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I was 18 years old.
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We had a house on the beach for
80 bucks a month, in Santa Monica.
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We split the rent three ways.
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It was just great,
it was right on the beach.
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Once she got there,
we got to work right away
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and we used to practise every day.
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Bobby introduced me
to a really good guitar player
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named Kenny Edwards, and we formed
a little band.
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We called ourselves the Stone
Poneys.
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# Look out your window
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# The rain is turning into snow... #
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We started playing
little beatnik dives
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and strange pizza parlours,
wherever we could get a job.
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There was the trip where I heard
this band called The Byrds.
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They had a light show and a lot
of acid tripping
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kind of stuff going on.
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The Whisky a Go Go was very
rock and roll.
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I heard The Doors there
and I thought,
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"They'd be really a hit band
if they get rid of their singer!"
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There was The Ash Grove.
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That was where you'd go
for authentic folk music.
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That's where I first
heard Ry Cooder.
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# Have you seen
that vigilante man...? #
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Ry Cooder was then and now
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the most amazing guitar player
I've ever heard.
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I knew they had good musicians
in Los Angeles
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but this guy's really something.
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I thought, "I'm staying here. I'm
not going back to Tucson to live!"
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She came to Los Angeles at a time
when the LA rock and roll scene
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was in gear and was going.
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Cos, see, after The Byrds did their
thing with Mr Tambourine Man,
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then the whole damn
thing broke loose.
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And all the record companies
went scurrying around
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like headless chickens,
trying to figure out what to do.
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"Who can sing a folk rock
and how can we define
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"what this thing is going to be?"
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# Hey, Mr Tambourine Man
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# Play a song for me... #
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There was a lot of cross-pollination
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that started happening
in the mid-'60s.
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Country music and folk music
and rock music started
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commingling and blending
and you'd get all these hybrids.
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ARCHIVE: The Troubadour,
just a few blocks
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from Hollywood Boulevard,
is known as an avant-garde cafe.
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It's the favourite of Hollywood's
young and young in heart.
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The Troubadour was where everybody
went to hang out and to be noticed.
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If you wanted to make yourself known
to the record community at large,
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you'd go to the Troubadour,
play an open-mic night.
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I can't even name all the great
songwriters that came through there.
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I mean, Laura Nyro,
Neil Young, Joni Mitchell,
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Tim Hardin, Kris Kristofferson,
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Rick Nelson, Elton John,
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Jackson Browne.
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It was just week after week of
amazing, game-changing songwriters.
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# Some of them were dreamers
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# And some of them were fools
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# Who were making plans
and thinking of the future... #
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I mean, you tried to get
a gig at the Troubadour,
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you wanted to play the Troubadour.
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All kinds of industry people
hung around in the bar.
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The Troubadour was important,
because that's where you'd get seen.
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It was a place to play.
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It's like in the minor leagues
in baseball, this was your chance,
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this was your great chance.
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The Troubadour was a bustling place.
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They had a hootenanny night
where new artists would come
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and sing a few songs,
and I used to go to every
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hootenanny night see if
there was anybody really talented.
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The Hoot, the Monday
night open-mic hootenanny,
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where you'd wait and get on
the list and you'd go
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up there and sing your new song.
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# Get a head of steam on,
shovelling the coal
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# Stick your head out the window,
watch the driver go... #
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# Wasting time... #
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# And I hear loud
ringing in my ear... #
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You got two or three songs.
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If you were no good, you probably
didn't last the second song
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cos people were like,
"Ah, get off..."
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And maybe not even the first song.
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# Oh, you and I travel to the beat
of a different drum... #
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I heard this song called
Different Drum
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by this bluegrass group
called The Greenbriar Boys.
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It was written by Mike Nesmith,
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who was eventually going to
join The Monkees.
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# You cry and moan and say
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# It will work out
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# But, honey child,
I've got my doubts
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# You can't see
the forest for the trees
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# So don't get me wrong
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# It's not that I knock it
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# It's just that I
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# Am not in the market
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# For a boy who wants
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# To love only me... #
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We got an immediate response
from managers and people
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who were interested in our career.
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Herb Cohen was managing Frank Zappa.
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We had heard that he had been
a soldier of fortune.
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He may have killed somebody.
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He was a badass, but he was
established,
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and he immediately said,
"I can get you a record deal."
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# So, goodbye, I'll be leaving
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# I see no sense for this crying
and grieving... #
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We recorded a few things,
just the three of us.
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Then he took those
to the people in power
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and said,
"I want to record these guys."
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Capitol said OK,
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we signed papers and we were off
and running.
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So we recorded it with a mandolin
and a couple of acoustic guitars.
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And the record company
didn't like it.
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And so, they said, "Well, come back,
we want to recut the song."
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Suddenly, everything
changed in the studio.
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They had a bunch of strings
in there,
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and it was an orchestra session.
I went, "Wait a minute,
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"this isn't the way I thought
about the song."
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I said, "I don't want to put it on
the record", because that wasn't
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the way I'd originally
envisioned it.
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# You and I travel
to the beat of a different drum
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# Oh, can't you tell by
the way I run
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# Every time you make eyes
at me... #
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It was a good thing they didn't
listen to me, cos it was a huge hit!
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I'm driving down the road
in my car, listening to KTKT Radio,
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and all of a sudden,
she's singing Different Drum.
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I said, "Wait a minute!"
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I loved her voice from
the first time I heard her.
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I was a freshman in college.
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The Stone Poneys, Different Drum,
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yeah, baby!
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It was just like...
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It was just, like, to pull back
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the covering of a fully developed
vocal stylist.
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# Yes, and I ain't saying
you ain't pretty
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# All I'm saying, I'm not ready... #
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Most of the time, as a critic,
you're sitting there saying,
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"Well, I'll give the artist a plus
for this and a minus for this.
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"This is kind of good,
that's not so good."
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Bang, it was like a home-run.
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# Goodbye, I'll be leaving... #
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We were out on this tour,
and Herbie Cohen comes
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to my hotel room and says,
"I need to tell you that,
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"when we get back to LA,
the band is breaking up."
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Everybody said, "I don't know
about you two guys,
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"but we want the girl singer."
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The record company wanted
to develop me as a solo artist.
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Kenny decided to go off to India and
find a guru and learn to meditate,
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and Bobby started a folk club
in LA called McCabe's.
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And I was left with,
what in the world to sing?
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I was by myself.
Harmony singer with no material.
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The remarkable thing
about the Stone Poney days
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was she had the nerve to leave
a male band
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after it had already
had a hit and go on her own.
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Will you welcome, please,
Miss Linda Ronstadt.
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APPLAUSE
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Ronstadt. Ronstadt?
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Did anyone ever suggest that isn't
the most musical name in the world?
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Oh, yeah, Glen Campbell called me...
That maybe you should change it
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to Linda Marlowe or...
Is there a Linda Marlowe, or...?
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It gives people.. Once they learn
how to pronounce my name,
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you know, that leaves them free for
all kinds of variations.
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Glen Campbell once
called me Linda Bedstead.
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You know, I remember you
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when you were nothing but
a little Stone Poney. Oh, yeah?
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I don't have any idea
what that means.
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I know that you were part
of a group, right?
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Let's see, how do I explain this on
television and not get yelled at?
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Oh, well, maybe you don't!
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I think I don't. Oh, yeah?
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Is it an inside meaning? Well, yeah,
it has a lot of different...
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# Love will abide
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# Take things in stride
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# Sounds like good advice
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# But there's no-one at my side
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# And time washes clean
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# Love's wounds unseen
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# That's what someone told me
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# But I don't know what it means
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# Cos I've done everything I know
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# To try and make you mine
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# And I think it's gonna hurt me
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# For a long, long time
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# Cos I've done everything I know
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# To try and make you mine
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# And I think I'm gonna love you
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# For a long, long time... #
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I met her in the Troubadour.
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She had this hit called
Long, Long Time.
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Apparently, she knew
who I was based on a record
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I'd made with Ricky Nelson.
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She said, "I like that band you
put together for Rick Nelson.
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"Could you do that for me?"
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# She's got
everything she needs
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# She's an artist,
she don't look back... #
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Herbie Cohen was the manager
when I met her.
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He gave me these tickets to Hawaii
for the Capitol Records convention.
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Linda and I show up
at San Francisco Airport
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to fly to Honolulu and,
lo and behold, there was
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the FBI to arrest us
for receiving stolen property.
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Turns out, Herbie had bought
the tickets in the lobby
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of the building from some guy,
you know, probably for 25 cents
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on the dollar, and they were
hotter than a $2 pistol.
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So we spent the day in jail.
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She fired Herbie
and asked me to fill in.
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# I don't want
your lonely mansion... #
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I was walking through the
Troubadour one night,
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on my way to the bathroom.
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This band Shiloh got up and did
my exact version
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of Silver Threads
And Golden Needles.
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# Silver threads
and golden needles... #
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I just went, "What?!
It's that solo!"
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I thought, "God, what...?" You know,
I was appalled that anyone
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would actually sit down with
one of my records, you know,
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and learn the solo off it, you know,
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like a Led Zeppelin record.
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And I heard the drummer and
I thought he was really good.
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The drummer was a guy
named Don Henley.
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Linda's first
solo album came out in '69,
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and I moved to LA in June of 1970.
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So, my timing was pretty good.
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She'd had a bunch of dates
back east and we needed to put
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the band together quickly,
so I hired him for $250 a week.
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# Rescue me
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# I want you in my arms
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# Rescue me
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# I need your tender charms
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# Cos I'm lonely... #
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I knew who she was cos
I had her album.
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I listened to that album 100 times.
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# Come on and rescue me... #
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She could seem vulnerable
and very feminine,
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but when she opened her mouth
to sing, everything got different.
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You know, it was just incredible.
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You knew that there was a very solid
core and a very determined woman.
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I just saw her walking
past me in the Troubadour
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and she looked so cute,
I just grabbed her by the hand
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and I said, "I think
you should cook me dinner."
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And she said, "OK,"
and gave me her phone number.
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So I called her in a couple
of days, and I said,
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"Well, are you going to
cook me dinner?"
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She goes, "Sure, come on over."
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I came on over and she made me
a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
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And I fell in love with her.
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Took her home and, the next day,
I said,
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"Listen, let's go get your stuff,
I think you can live here with me."
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# I got a feeling called the blues,
oh, Lord
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# Since my baby said goodbye... #
403
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John David Souther and Linda
Ronstadt, they were a hot couple.
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# All I do is sit and cry, oh, Lord
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# That last long day
he said goodbye... #
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JD'd had a musical duo
with a guy named Glenn Frey.
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He was my best friend
and first songwriting partner.
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We really did nothing
but just listen to music
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and play guitars and try to write
songs and then go to the Troubadour.
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Glenn Frey played pretty
good guitar, so I went and talked
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to Glenn and said, "Do you want
to do this tour with me?"
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He said it'd be really cool.
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He'd never been on the road before.
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Glenn Frey and I shared a $12
hotel room
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with two twin beds in it.
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It was a very modest tour, I mean,
I remember being in station wagons.
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Rooming together, John and
Glenn each discovered that the other
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was a good singer and songwriter.
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And that's when they decided
to get together and form a band.
420
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That band became The Eagles.
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They wished us well.
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You know, John was very supportive,
Linda was supportive.
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And they basically said,
"Just go for it."
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We didn't have much
success with Desperado.
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It was... The record company didn't
know what to do with it.
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And then Linda made it
into a classic.
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# Desperado
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# Why don't you come to your senses?
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# Come down from your fences
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# And open the gate
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# It may be raining
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# But there's a rainbow above you
433
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# You better let somebody love you
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# Let somebody love you
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# Before it's too late. #
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CHEERING
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I knew the Neil Young tour
was coming and I thought,
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this'll be perfect for Linda,
because she had sung backup
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on his big hit, Heart Of Gold.
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So I called Neil's manager
and I said, "Listen,
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"Linda's the right opening act for
this. You've got to help me out."
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And they said, "Well,
Neil's going to go out alone."
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# I want to live,
I want to give... #
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And lo and behold, like,
a week later, they called me
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and said, "Neil's
done a few dates in Canada
446
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"and it's getting him too tired.
447
00:27:03,340 --> 00:27:05,820
"He now wants an opening act
and you're it."
448
00:27:08,820 --> 00:27:12,460
Linda was quite reluctant
at the time. She was so worried
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about the idea of playing
a huge hockey arena tour
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at that point in her career.
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But we persuaded her that this
would be a good thing.
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CHEERING
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Thank you.
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You would occasionally get someone
yelling, "We want Neil!"
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But by the time the tour got
going, she was holding her own.
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# I've been cheated
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# Been mistreated
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# When will I be loved?
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00:27:49,100 --> 00:27:52,820
# I've been put down
460
00:27:52,820 --> 00:27:56,260
# I've been pushed round
461
00:27:56,260 --> 00:28:01,460
# When will I be loved?
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00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:07,580
# When I find a new man
463
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# That I want for mine
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00:28:11,140 --> 00:28:14,340
# He always breaks my heart in two
465
00:28:14,340 --> 00:28:20,340
# It happens every time
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# I've been made blue... #
467
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Here's Linda, who I'd never seen
live before,
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big stage, sold out, huge place.
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She comes out there and starts
singing, and that voice filled
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this arena, where I had seen
concerts for a long time.
471
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Nobody filled this arena
with a voice like Linda Ronstadt.
472
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And she just killed it,
she slaughtered this crowd
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who didn't come to see her, but they
sure left knowing who she was.
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We did 78 dates in 90 days.
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We played before 18,000
to 20,000 people every night.
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We got to Houston and there
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was this new girl singer
named Emmylou.
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It was 1973, during
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the one tour I did with Gram.
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# Calliope calling
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# Children are falling
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# In line to ride
on the merry-go-round... #
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Emmy started singing and in three
notes, the entire place
484
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was dead quiet. It was like they'd
started Mass or something.
485
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And she was beautiful,
this girl with long hair
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and big, brown eyes,
and I thought,
487
00:29:29,940 --> 00:29:32,260
"She's doing exactly what I'm doing.
488
00:29:32,260 --> 00:29:33,900
"But she's doing it better!"
489
00:29:36,500 --> 00:29:38,860
And for a minute, I thought,
well, I can get jealous
490
00:29:38,860 --> 00:29:41,700
and then I won't be able
to enjoy her singing,
491
00:29:41,700 --> 00:29:43,900
or I can just become
a slobbering, drooling fan
492
00:29:43,900 --> 00:29:45,860
like the rest of
the people in the club,
493
00:29:45,860 --> 00:29:48,580
and hope that maybe I can get
her to sing with me.
494
00:29:48,580 --> 00:29:51,660
So I chose the latter. It was one of
the best decisions I ever made.
495
00:29:51,660 --> 00:29:56,180
And Emmy and I became immediate
music and social friends.
496
00:29:57,860 --> 00:30:03,580
Linda had a lot to do
with lifting me up at a very,
497
00:30:03,580 --> 00:30:06,980
very low time in my life.
498
00:30:06,980 --> 00:30:10,460
I had been on my way,
working with Gram Parsons.
499
00:30:10,460 --> 00:30:14,380
I thought I'd found my voice,
I'd found something I loved to do,
500
00:30:14,380 --> 00:30:15,820
singing with him.
501
00:30:15,820 --> 00:30:18,860
# Love hurts
502
00:30:18,860 --> 00:30:22,500
# Love scars... #
503
00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:25,100
On the road,
he was getting himself straight,
504
00:30:25,100 --> 00:30:26,700
he was drinking a lot less.
505
00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:29,500
He was loving the work,
we loved singing together,
506
00:30:29,500 --> 00:30:31,380
we had a record we'd just made.
507
00:30:31,380 --> 00:30:34,740
And apparently someone showed
up with heroin,
508
00:30:34,740 --> 00:30:39,260
which he hadn't done in a while,
509
00:30:39,260 --> 00:30:41,700
and it killed him.
510
00:30:41,700 --> 00:30:44,180
It was devastating,
to lose him like that.
511
00:30:46,220 --> 00:30:50,660
It was Linda who stepped
up as a friend,
512
00:30:50,660 --> 00:30:52,540
and we had just met each other.
513
00:30:52,540 --> 00:30:56,940
She brought me out to LA,
had me stay at her house,
514
00:30:56,940 --> 00:30:59,580
and she talked about me
to everybody,
515
00:30:59,580 --> 00:31:03,180
said how great I was
and genuinely loved my singing,
516
00:31:03,180 --> 00:31:08,300
genuinely made me feel
like I had something to offer
517
00:31:08,300 --> 00:31:11,580
at a very low time in my life.
518
00:31:11,580 --> 00:31:14,860
# Love hurts. #
519
00:31:16,900 --> 00:31:19,820
# Save me
520
00:31:19,820 --> 00:31:22,740
# Free me
521
00:31:22,740 --> 00:31:27,860
# From my heart this time
522
00:31:30,860 --> 00:31:38,340
# Well, the train's gone
down the track
523
00:31:38,340 --> 00:31:43,740
# And I'm, I'm left behind... #
524
00:31:46,380 --> 00:31:50,300
Linda was always very tight
with her girlfriends.
525
00:31:50,300 --> 00:31:52,620
They sang together,
they shared music together,
526
00:31:52,620 --> 00:31:54,340
she was supportive of me.
527
00:31:54,340 --> 00:31:59,700
I was writing songs and hoping
to make my own record.
528
00:31:59,700 --> 00:32:03,180
But, of course, Linda
was really coming into her own
529
00:32:03,180 --> 00:32:05,500
and starting
to be really successful.
530
00:32:07,660 --> 00:32:10,380
I think a songwriter doing
their songs is different
531
00:32:10,380 --> 00:32:12,140
than a singer doing their songs.
532
00:32:12,140 --> 00:32:14,860
Some people prefer
the songwriter doing them,
533
00:32:14,860 --> 00:32:18,140
some people prefer Linda doing them,
534
00:32:18,140 --> 00:32:21,140
but Lose Again, she definitely made
into a bigger song.
535
00:32:23,140 --> 00:32:28,220
# But nothing could save me
from this ball and chain... #
536
00:32:28,220 --> 00:32:30,460
Because I couldn't sing
it like that.
537
00:32:30,460 --> 00:32:37,340
# I've made up my mind I would
leave today... #
538
00:32:37,340 --> 00:32:40,580
I mean, Linda came out and turned it
into this power ballad.
539
00:32:40,580 --> 00:32:43,900
# I know it's insane
540
00:32:43,900 --> 00:32:51,660
# Cos I'll love you and lose again
541
00:32:51,660 --> 00:32:59,580
# Whoa, I'll love you,
and lose again. #
542
00:33:07,300 --> 00:33:10,460
Back then, there wasn't
competition with women,
543
00:33:10,460 --> 00:33:13,980
so I think, women, there weren't
that many of us either,
544
00:33:13,980 --> 00:33:17,180
so I think there was
a certain amount of banding together
545
00:33:17,180 --> 00:33:19,460
to share our women part of it.
546
00:33:19,460 --> 00:33:21,140
This is a song off our new album.
547
00:33:22,900 --> 00:33:25,140
It's about a real special
place, called home.
548
00:33:26,780 --> 00:33:28,220
It's a Karla Bonoff song.
549
00:33:29,460 --> 00:33:32,980
I'd made a demo of Home
and we sent it off to Bonnie,
550
00:33:32,980 --> 00:33:36,100
just a complete long shot,
she decided to record it.
551
00:33:36,100 --> 00:33:39,980
# Travelling at night
552
00:33:39,980 --> 00:33:42,300
# The headlights were bright
553
00:33:42,300 --> 00:33:46,460
# But soon the sun came
through the trees
554
00:33:48,260 --> 00:33:51,140
# Around the next bend
555
00:33:51,140 --> 00:33:54,140
# The flowers will send
556
00:33:54,140 --> 00:33:58,700
# The sweet smell of my home
in the breeze... #
557
00:33:58,700 --> 00:34:00,540
Linda and I are like sisters.
558
00:34:00,540 --> 00:34:03,460
Around the same age and we were
coming up and had
559
00:34:03,460 --> 00:34:06,420
the same mutual, other musician
friends and band members.
560
00:34:06,420 --> 00:34:09,460
You know, it was a community
of artists,
561
00:34:09,460 --> 00:34:13,060
it wasn't sexually divided between
just women and men,
562
00:34:13,060 --> 00:34:14,860
we weren't thinking in
terms of that.
563
00:34:15,940 --> 00:34:19,220
Linda and Bonnie Raitt were two
of the first women that
564
00:34:19,220 --> 00:34:21,980
I was able to see as a young
journalist,
565
00:34:21,980 --> 00:34:25,580
and study the way they operated
in this community.
566
00:34:25,580 --> 00:34:28,260
We're going to move into this world
where we're running bands
567
00:34:28,260 --> 00:34:31,740
with guys in them, but we
can also look after each other.
568
00:34:31,740 --> 00:34:35,940
I said, if I can have it
on my terms and you understand
569
00:34:35,940 --> 00:34:40,540
I'm not going to be told how to
dress or what music to make, great.
570
00:34:40,540 --> 00:34:43,460
We were all throwing away
all those conventions, you know?
571
00:34:45,700 --> 00:34:48,340
The rock and roll culture's
so male dominated,
572
00:34:48,340 --> 00:34:52,180
and it also seems to be dominated
by hostility against women.
573
00:34:52,180 --> 00:34:53,940
This sort of...hmm...
574
00:34:55,900 --> 00:34:58,340
This sort of sexual identity,
575
00:34:58,340 --> 00:35:01,900
that's used as a
weapon against the populace.
576
00:35:01,900 --> 00:35:05,420
Women in particular,
and everyone identifies with it.
577
00:35:05,420 --> 00:35:07,700
And it's sort of sad to me
because what happens
578
00:35:07,700 --> 00:35:14,700
is that rock and roll stars
end up isolating themselves
579
00:35:14,700 --> 00:35:17,060
more and more and more,
thereby increasing your own
580
00:35:17,060 --> 00:35:19,140
feelings of alienation
and anxiety,
581
00:35:19,140 --> 00:35:21,260
and they wonder why
they're so miserable.
582
00:35:21,260 --> 00:35:24,660
That's really when they turn to
drugs and destroy themselves.
583
00:35:24,660 --> 00:35:28,180
It's just really silly.
It just seems very silly.
584
00:35:28,180 --> 00:35:33,860
They lose the ability to focus
on themselves as a person,
585
00:35:33,860 --> 00:35:35,660
rather than as an image.
586
00:35:35,660 --> 00:35:38,300
And that's very dangerous,
I think.
587
00:35:38,300 --> 00:35:41,940
And there's always a lot of people
around them -
588
00:35:41,940 --> 00:35:46,020
managers and scene makers,
groupies and whatever -
589
00:35:46,020 --> 00:35:49,100
that are willing to indulge them
in anything they want.
590
00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:52,940
And it weakens them,
it weakens them as people,
591
00:35:52,940 --> 00:35:54,860
and eventually weakens them
as musicians.
592
00:35:58,100 --> 00:36:02,580
# I've been warped by the rain,
driven by the snow
593
00:36:02,580 --> 00:36:05,180
# I'm drunk and dirty,
don't you know
594
00:36:05,180 --> 00:36:10,020
# But I'm still willin'
595
00:36:12,780 --> 00:36:16,180
# Out on the road,
late last night
596
00:36:16,180 --> 00:36:20,460
# I see my pretty Alice
in every headlight
597
00:36:20,460 --> 00:36:23,980
# Alice, Dallas Alice
598
00:36:25,780 --> 00:36:29,900
# And I've been from
Tucson to Tucumcari
599
00:36:29,900 --> 00:36:33,500
# Tehachapi to Tonopah
600
00:36:33,500 --> 00:36:38,180
# Driven every kind of rig that's
ever been made... #
601
00:36:38,180 --> 00:36:42,100
I was in New York and somebody
said, you have to go and see
602
00:36:42,100 --> 00:36:44,620
this girl, she's amazing,
she's one of the best things
603
00:36:44,620 --> 00:36:47,060
you'll ever hear, she's brilliant.
604
00:36:47,060 --> 00:36:49,380
She's incredibly great looking,
605
00:36:49,380 --> 00:36:52,980
she sings barefoot and will
knock you out in every respect.
606
00:36:52,980 --> 00:36:54,860
And she did.
607
00:36:54,860 --> 00:37:01,980
# Whites and wine
608
00:37:01,980 --> 00:37:05,260
# And you show me a sign
609
00:37:05,260 --> 00:37:07,260
# And I'll be willin'... #
610
00:37:07,260 --> 00:37:09,620
I was running The Beatles'
record label Apple.
611
00:37:09,620 --> 00:37:12,660
When Apple started to fall apart
and the Beatles were
612
00:37:12,660 --> 00:37:14,340
breaking up and all of that,
613
00:37:14,340 --> 00:37:17,100
I went to America and
there I was, being a manager.
614
00:37:18,700 --> 00:37:21,380
I wanted to go back to work
as a record producer,
615
00:37:21,380 --> 00:37:23,740
so I suggested Linda go
and meet with Peter,
616
00:37:23,740 --> 00:37:26,380
which we did,
and he agreed to manage her.
617
00:37:28,020 --> 00:37:29,340
There was a high bar there.
618
00:37:29,340 --> 00:37:31,540
Peter Asher had hung around
with The Beatles,
619
00:37:31,540 --> 00:37:34,780
he expected to make records
that are huge successes.
620
00:37:34,780 --> 00:37:36,980
And he was poised to do
that with Linda,
621
00:37:36,980 --> 00:37:40,460
and Geffen was ready to be the
record company that would be there.
622
00:37:43,860 --> 00:37:45,580
I started Asylum Records
623
00:37:45,580 --> 00:37:48,500
and signed Jackson Browne
and then started signing
624
00:37:48,500 --> 00:37:50,660
other artists and it turned
into what it did.
625
00:37:53,540 --> 00:37:55,860
And I knew when I saw Linda
in The Stone Poneys
626
00:37:55,860 --> 00:37:58,260
that she was going to make it,
and she was going to make
627
00:37:58,260 --> 00:38:00,980
it as a solo artist, and I knew she
was going to be a big star.
628
00:38:02,140 --> 00:38:04,460
She didn't think so.
629
00:38:04,460 --> 00:38:06,740
She had very little
confidence in those days.
630
00:38:09,060 --> 00:38:11,300
Linda was feeling like she
wasn't good enough
631
00:38:11,300 --> 00:38:12,500
to be on Asylum Records.
632
00:38:14,340 --> 00:38:17,060
I said to her that that was crazy.
633
00:38:18,780 --> 00:38:21,340
I'm never really satisfied
with what I do.
634
00:38:21,340 --> 00:38:24,300
And lots of times, I hear that I did
something wrong and it bothers me.
635
00:38:24,300 --> 00:38:26,500
It can ruin my day, really.
636
00:38:26,500 --> 00:38:29,580
Linda never thought
she was as good as she was,
637
00:38:29,580 --> 00:38:32,740
and that is an interesting
paradox, because she's
638
00:38:32,740 --> 00:38:35,420
confident about her ideas
but not about herself
639
00:38:35,420 --> 00:38:36,980
and not about her singing.
640
00:38:38,980 --> 00:38:42,020
My involvement as a producer
with Linda came when
641
00:38:42,020 --> 00:38:46,340
she was having trouble finishing
the album that became Don't Cry Now.
642
00:38:46,340 --> 00:38:47,620
And that's when we decided
643
00:38:47,620 --> 00:38:50,740
that the next album I would produce
was Heart Like A Wheel.
644
00:38:50,740 --> 00:38:55,980
# Some say a heart
is just like a wheel
645
00:38:55,980 --> 00:38:59,660
# When you bend it,
you can't mend it... #
646
00:38:59,660 --> 00:39:03,060
The McGarrigle Sisters, who were
these two Canadian sisters,
647
00:39:03,060 --> 00:39:05,740
they were in an odd category,
they didn't fit in pop music,
648
00:39:05,740 --> 00:39:07,860
they didn't fit in folk music,
649
00:39:07,860 --> 00:39:10,420
they didn't fit anywhere
except they fit in my heart.
650
00:39:10,420 --> 00:39:13,340
We just heard Heart Like A Wheel
and I went, I have to sing it.
651
00:39:14,820 --> 00:39:21,740
# When harm is done,
no love can be won
652
00:39:21,740 --> 00:39:28,140
# I know it happens frequently... #
653
00:39:31,540 --> 00:39:35,980
Linda has the ability to hear
a song and claim it.
654
00:39:35,980 --> 00:39:38,900
You claim it as your own,
as a singer.
655
00:39:38,900 --> 00:39:42,300
If you love it like that,
you get inside it, you become it.
656
00:39:42,300 --> 00:39:50,300
# But my love for you is
like a sinking ship
657
00:39:50,300 --> 00:39:57,900
# And my heart is on that ship
out in mid-ocean... #
658
00:40:02,260 --> 00:40:04,460
Heart Like A Wheel,
she discovered that song,
659
00:40:04,460 --> 00:40:07,140
brought it to me, and I loved it.
I thought it was beautiful.
660
00:40:07,140 --> 00:40:10,100
But I was also thinking in terms of,
we should make some hits.
661
00:40:10,100 --> 00:40:13,820
# Feeling better now that
we're through
662
00:40:13,820 --> 00:40:17,660
# Feeling better
cos I'm over you... #
663
00:40:17,660 --> 00:40:20,140
I'm a ballad singer,
I like to sing ballads best,
664
00:40:20,140 --> 00:40:22,620
but we needed some up-tempo
songs for the record
665
00:40:22,620 --> 00:40:23,940
and, as an afterthought,
666
00:40:23,940 --> 00:40:26,940
I had this song that we'd use
to close the show.
667
00:40:26,940 --> 00:40:30,380
# You're no good,
you're no good, you're no good
668
00:40:30,380 --> 00:40:33,300
# Baby, you're no good
669
00:40:33,300 --> 00:40:35,580
# I'm gonna say it again
670
00:40:35,580 --> 00:40:39,460
# You're no good,
you're no good, you're no good
671
00:40:39,460 --> 00:40:42,380
# Baby, you're no good... #
672
00:40:42,380 --> 00:40:44,940
She knew and loved the song,
I knew and loved the song,
673
00:40:44,940 --> 00:40:47,500
and we decided to do
a version of that song.
674
00:40:49,540 --> 00:40:55,380
I stayed up all night, assembling
this very complicated, intricate,
675
00:40:55,380 --> 00:40:57,740
layered guitar piece.
676
00:40:57,740 --> 00:41:01,700
We worked very long
into, like, the next afternoon.
677
00:41:01,700 --> 00:41:05,780
And that's when Linda turned up
and didn't like it.
678
00:41:05,780 --> 00:41:08,660
She said, "No, I don't like it,
it sounds like The Beatles."
679
00:41:08,660 --> 00:41:10,260
Which it did sound like The Beatles.
680
00:41:10,260 --> 00:41:12,100
But in the end, she came
around and said,
681
00:41:12,100 --> 00:41:14,020
"You know what? I was wrong.
It's great."
682
00:41:26,580 --> 00:41:31,340
# I'm turning you down, baby,
and I'm going my way
683
00:41:31,340 --> 00:41:35,380
# Forget about you, baby,
cos I'm leaving to stay... #
684
00:41:35,380 --> 00:41:39,380
Every song that I sing has a face
that I sing it to, you know?
685
00:41:39,380 --> 00:41:42,900
And so, when something happens
to me -
686
00:41:42,900 --> 00:41:45,740
it's really funny, I mean,
I know so many songs -
687
00:41:45,740 --> 00:41:49,460
when something happens to me, the
song will occur at the same time
688
00:41:49,460 --> 00:41:51,500
and I'll think, oh,
this song or that song.
689
00:41:51,500 --> 00:41:53,820
And if it's a song I can sing,
then I'll have to sing it.
690
00:41:53,820 --> 00:41:56,060
I'll just learn to sing it,
I can't not sing it.
691
00:41:56,060 --> 00:42:00,620
# Today, I passed you on the street
692
00:42:00,620 --> 00:42:05,060
# And my heart fell at your feet
693
00:42:05,060 --> 00:42:12,700
# I can't help it if
I'm still in love with you... #
694
00:42:12,700 --> 00:42:15,500
People would make the assumption
that I was choosing the songs
695
00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:18,140
that we were doing on these
records, or that I was working out
696
00:42:18,140 --> 00:42:20,460
the arrangements, or this,
that and the other.
697
00:42:20,460 --> 00:42:22,020
And I would have to keep explaining
698
00:42:22,020 --> 00:42:24,780
that it was Linda and me,
in that order.
699
00:42:24,780 --> 00:42:30,300
# I can't help it if
I'm still in love with you... #
700
00:42:30,300 --> 00:42:32,700
My sister used to play
all these Hank Williams records
701
00:42:32,700 --> 00:42:35,420
so I thought, I can do that.
702
00:42:35,420 --> 00:42:40,660
# A picture from the past
came slowly stealing
703
00:42:40,660 --> 00:42:46,740
# As I brushed your arm
and stood so close to you... #
704
00:42:46,740 --> 00:42:49,980
Linda knew a good song and she knew
why it was good, and better
705
00:42:49,980 --> 00:42:52,980
than that, she knew how to sing it
better than you could sing it.
706
00:42:52,980 --> 00:42:57,580
When you become that sharp
of a song stylist,
707
00:42:57,580 --> 00:43:00,900
you get authorship in a certain way.
708
00:43:00,900 --> 00:43:03,420
I consider her a real auteur.
709
00:43:03,420 --> 00:43:06,260
She didn't write songs,
but she made songs happen
710
00:43:06,260 --> 00:43:08,180
the way she wanted to hear them.
711
00:43:08,180 --> 00:43:13,700
# I can't help it if
I'm still in love with you... #
712
00:43:13,700 --> 00:43:16,940
I Can't Help It If I'm Still In Love
With You was a hit
713
00:43:16,940 --> 00:43:18,540
on the country charts.
714
00:43:18,540 --> 00:43:22,900
You're No Good was a hit on both
the R&B chart and the pop chart.
715
00:43:22,900 --> 00:43:24,700
SO I became the first artist
to have a hit on
716
00:43:24,700 --> 00:43:26,620
all three charts at the same time.
717
00:43:29,540 --> 00:43:31,660
APPLAUSE
718
00:43:31,660 --> 00:43:36,140
Heart Like A Wheel was a huge
turning point for her.
719
00:43:36,140 --> 00:43:41,500
The avalanche of success
was hitting everywhere.
720
00:43:41,500 --> 00:43:44,020
She was at the forefront
of a kind of pop stardom
721
00:43:44,020 --> 00:43:46,380
that hadn't happened
at that point,
722
00:43:46,380 --> 00:43:50,820
but people didn't notice
the difficulty of being a woman,
723
00:43:50,820 --> 00:43:54,820
trailblazing, and having the success
of a Mick Jagger.
724
00:44:03,620 --> 00:44:06,180
# People try to rape me
725
00:44:06,180 --> 00:44:08,340
# Always think I'm crazy
726
00:44:08,340 --> 00:44:12,940
# Make me burn the candle right down
727
00:44:12,940 --> 00:44:17,860
# Baby, I can't stay
728
00:44:17,860 --> 00:44:21,820
# Don't need your jewels
in my frown
729
00:44:21,820 --> 00:44:26,340
# Now all you women
are lowdown gamblers... #
730
00:44:26,340 --> 00:44:29,340
Now I had gigs in, like, big
sporting arenas,
731
00:44:29,340 --> 00:44:31,820
you know, stadiums and stuff
like that.
732
00:44:31,820 --> 00:44:33,860
I knew the name of every
arena in the country.
733
00:44:33,860 --> 00:44:35,980
"We got a gig tonight
at the Spectrum, in Philly.
734
00:44:35,980 --> 00:44:38,300
"We'll be at the Forum.
Gig tomorrow night at the Garden."
735
00:44:38,300 --> 00:44:40,940
That's where we played.
She was selling them all out.
736
00:44:40,940 --> 00:44:42,460
# Well, this lowdown bitching
737
00:44:42,460 --> 00:44:44,820
# Got my poor feet a-itching
738
00:44:44,820 --> 00:44:47,980
# Can't you see the deuce
is still wild...? #
739
00:44:47,980 --> 00:44:51,540
She was very good,
audience loved her, records sold.
740
00:44:51,540 --> 00:44:54,260
She was on an uphill swing
all the time.
741
00:44:54,260 --> 00:44:56,740
# You got to roll me
742
00:44:56,740 --> 00:44:59,340
# And call me the tumbling dice... #
743
00:45:03,820 --> 00:45:07,820
When we did that tour together,
we'd take turns closing and opening.
744
00:45:09,340 --> 00:45:12,780
You know, try following
Linda Ronstadt every night!
745
00:45:12,780 --> 00:45:16,420
# Honey, got no money
746
00:45:16,420 --> 00:45:20,860
# Sixes and sevens and nines
747
00:45:20,860 --> 00:45:23,180
# Well, hey, now, baby
748
00:45:23,180 --> 00:45:25,140
# I'm the rank outsider... #
749
00:45:25,140 --> 00:45:27,940
I went to go see her
at the Universal Amphitheatre
750
00:45:27,940 --> 00:45:30,820
when she was wearing her Boy Scouts
outfit, and it was just rocking.
751
00:45:30,820 --> 00:45:32,820
# Baby... #
752
00:45:32,820 --> 00:45:37,620
Lin was able to be really feminine
and sexy in this world of men,
753
00:45:37,620 --> 00:45:40,460
and somehow hold on to herself
and do that,
754
00:45:40,460 --> 00:45:43,380
and use that in the best
possible way.
755
00:45:45,060 --> 00:45:48,780
GUITAR SOLO PLAYS
756
00:45:54,740 --> 00:45:58,300
There was a lot of dudes running
around the stages then, you know?
757
00:45:58,300 --> 00:46:01,260
But we were on the road with Linda,
and killing it.
758
00:46:01,260 --> 00:46:03,220
She was killing every night.
759
00:46:06,900 --> 00:46:09,020
# You got to roll me... #
760
00:46:09,020 --> 00:46:11,500
I know they liked my singing
and I know they were proud of what
761
00:46:11,500 --> 00:46:14,180
they were doing, but still,
in rock and roll, the idea that you
762
00:46:14,180 --> 00:46:16,620
were actually working for a chick
singer, in their way,
763
00:46:16,620 --> 00:46:19,420
they sort of saw it as not as cool
as if they were their own
764
00:46:19,420 --> 00:46:22,060
rock and roll band
and they were just all the guys.
765
00:46:23,900 --> 00:46:26,980
# Baby, baby, got to roll me... #
766
00:46:26,980 --> 00:46:29,020
There weren't a lot
of women musicians,
767
00:46:29,020 --> 00:46:32,020
so it was always a band
of guys, you know.
768
00:46:32,020 --> 00:46:35,060
There weren't women bass players
and women guitar players,
769
00:46:35,060 --> 00:46:37,620
and sometimes, some of these
guys were...
770
00:46:37,620 --> 00:46:39,660
They were tough.
771
00:46:41,140 --> 00:46:43,940
I got a lot tougher and more
foul-mouthed. I used to swear a lot.
772
00:46:43,940 --> 00:46:45,860
I mean, I used
to talk like a truck driver.
773
00:46:45,860 --> 00:46:48,260
When I think about the way
I used to talk, I'm shocked.
774
00:46:51,740 --> 00:46:54,180
Without having any other
girls along on the road,
775
00:46:54,180 --> 00:46:56,540
just automatically,
you start to imitate them.
776
00:47:00,460 --> 00:47:04,340
Linda was never comfortable
being on the road, but obviously,
777
00:47:04,340 --> 00:47:09,500
she did her job and part of her
loved it. Who wouldn't love it?
778
00:47:09,500 --> 00:47:13,180
But I think there was another
part of her that went, you know,
779
00:47:13,180 --> 00:47:15,420
this doesn't feel right.
780
00:47:15,420 --> 00:47:18,020
If I were going to choose something
to do, it would not be
781
00:47:18,020 --> 00:47:20,500
to stand up in front of a lot
of people, but I love to sing.
782
00:47:20,500 --> 00:47:23,060
I love to sing, I love music,
so at some point,
783
00:47:23,060 --> 00:47:25,940
you do whatever you have to do,
to do music.
784
00:47:25,940 --> 00:47:29,460
She would confess to me that
if she saw people in the front row,
785
00:47:29,460 --> 00:47:33,580
right, and somebody leans over
and says something to the person
786
00:47:33,580 --> 00:47:37,140
next to them, she thought
they were saying, you know,
787
00:47:37,140 --> 00:47:40,940
"She's the worst singer I've ever
heard. I don't like this."
788
00:47:40,940 --> 00:47:42,460
She really believed that.
789
00:47:44,180 --> 00:47:48,260
You get on the bus at night, card
game going on, everybody blasting
790
00:47:48,260 --> 00:47:52,260
music, or everyone else drinking,
you know, a lot of drugs around.
791
00:47:53,300 --> 00:47:55,900
A lot of people would go onstage
completely hammered,
792
00:47:55,900 --> 00:47:57,660
completely fuckin' hammered.
793
00:47:57,660 --> 00:48:00,900
Everybody was up at night,
and when the gig ended,
794
00:48:00,900 --> 00:48:03,140
you don't go home and have milk.
795
00:48:05,060 --> 00:48:07,540
It was kind of the night-time,
danger,
796
00:48:07,540 --> 00:48:09,660
fun part about not having
to go to bed.
797
00:48:09,660 --> 00:48:12,300
You know, if Keith Richards
can do it, so can I.
798
00:48:12,300 --> 00:48:14,540
Linda's thing was diet pills.
799
00:48:16,500 --> 00:48:19,540
She went through a phase, mostly
taking speed and not eating
800
00:48:19,540 --> 00:48:21,860
and being super skinny.
801
00:48:21,860 --> 00:48:24,100
It seemed like it was so hard to be
out there
802
00:48:24,100 --> 00:48:27,380
day after day after day and to try
to get up the energy
803
00:48:27,380 --> 00:48:31,300
to sort of do that when you were
just wrung out from the sense
804
00:48:31,300 --> 00:48:33,460
of being dislocated from place.
805
00:48:35,460 --> 00:48:38,220
I was with a bunch of people that
were basically earnest
806
00:48:38,220 --> 00:48:40,740
and basically honest,
and the kind of paranoia
807
00:48:40,740 --> 00:48:44,100
that was introduced by drugs, it was
so destructive in our ability
808
00:48:44,100 --> 00:48:47,380
to communicate with each other,
and it really saddened me.
809
00:48:47,380 --> 00:48:49,780
And then at some point,
we all just stopped.
810
00:48:49,780 --> 00:48:51,980
BASS PLAYS INTRO
811
00:48:51,980 --> 00:48:54,340
CROWD CHEERS
812
00:48:55,340 --> 00:49:00,500
# I feel so bad,
I got a worried mind
813
00:49:01,820 --> 00:49:05,140
# I'm so lonesome all the time
814
00:49:06,780 --> 00:49:10,780
# Since I left my baby behind
815
00:49:10,780 --> 00:49:14,460
# On Blue Bayou
816
00:49:17,660 --> 00:49:21,780
# Saving nickles, saving dimes
817
00:49:22,940 --> 00:49:27,260
# Working till the sun don't shine
818
00:49:27,260 --> 00:49:31,820
# Looking forward to happier times
819
00:49:31,820 --> 00:49:34,620
# On Blue Bayou
820
00:49:36,940 --> 00:49:39,860
# I'm going back someday
821
00:49:39,860 --> 00:49:42,300
# Come what may
822
00:49:42,300 --> 00:49:45,340
# To Blue Bayou
823
00:49:47,580 --> 00:49:52,740
# Where the folks are fun
and the world is mine
824
00:49:52,740 --> 00:49:56,700
# On Blue Bayou... #
825
00:49:56,700 --> 00:49:58,260
When Rolling Stone was ready
826
00:49:58,260 --> 00:50:00,260
to put Linda Ronstadt on the cover,
827
00:50:00,260 --> 00:50:03,860
that was her absolute
peak up till then.
828
00:50:03,860 --> 00:50:08,460
# If I could only see... #
829
00:50:08,460 --> 00:50:11,100
Generally, it was
a very male-oriented,
830
00:50:11,100 --> 00:50:13,740
denim-clad warrior cover.
831
00:50:13,740 --> 00:50:16,940
So, here comes Linda Ronstadt,
832
00:50:16,940 --> 00:50:21,060
and she and Annie Leibovitz put
together this photo session that
833
00:50:21,060 --> 00:50:24,700
was like no other cover that had
been on Rolling Stone before.
834
00:50:26,940 --> 00:50:28,900
She was honest...
835
00:50:31,780 --> 00:50:34,060
..and opened her heart.
836
00:50:34,060 --> 00:50:38,900
She said, "This gets lonely,
and I don't know where it ends up.
837
00:50:38,900 --> 00:50:42,340
"It's an emotional journey,
and I'm happy that I've brought
838
00:50:42,340 --> 00:50:45,180
"this kind of joy, but you know
what, when I'm here alone
839
00:50:45,180 --> 00:50:48,900
"in this Malibu home that looks very
cosy, it's lonely."
840
00:50:48,900 --> 00:50:52,540
There's a lot of show business
people down here, you know?
841
00:50:52,540 --> 00:50:55,860
It's not my style exactly.
Where did you live before?
842
00:50:57,220 --> 00:51:00,060
Nowhere, really. I was on the road,
you know, for about ten years,
843
00:51:00,060 --> 00:51:02,700
and I didn't exactly have a home.
844
00:51:03,700 --> 00:51:06,900
# On Blue
845
00:51:06,900 --> 00:51:09,580
# Ba...
846
00:51:09,580 --> 00:51:14,220
# ..you. #
847
00:51:16,780 --> 00:51:19,540
CROWD CHEERS
848
00:51:23,020 --> 00:51:27,140
Singing the national anthem here at
Dodger Stadium, Miss Linda Ronstadt.
849
00:51:32,260 --> 00:51:34,380
# Can you see... #
850
00:51:34,380 --> 00:51:37,980
I remember my dad was
watching her at the game.
851
00:51:37,980 --> 00:51:40,620
She sang the national anthem.
852
00:51:40,620 --> 00:51:44,700
# What so proudly we hail'd
853
00:51:44,700 --> 00:51:47,460
# At the twilight's last... #
854
00:51:47,460 --> 00:51:49,860
And all of a sudden, there she is.
She'd come in the limo
855
00:51:49,860 --> 00:51:51,340
straight to the restaurant from
856
00:51:51,340 --> 00:51:53,020
the game to have something to eat.
857
00:51:53,020 --> 00:51:57,900
My parents had a small restaurant on
Melrose Avenue, across the street
858
00:51:57,900 --> 00:52:02,580
from what was then KHJ Radio, which
was the radio station in the day.
859
00:52:02,580 --> 00:52:06,020
Lindy walked in and my dad
was wearing a shirt
860
00:52:06,020 --> 00:52:09,220
that we call in Mexico a guayabera,
861
00:52:09,220 --> 00:52:12,500
and it has four pockets
and it's white, and she said,
862
00:52:12,500 --> 00:52:15,820
"This is a good place, because he's
wearing the shirt my dad wears."
863
00:52:17,100 --> 00:52:21,100
A lot of people who hung out at the
Troubadour also ate at Lucy's.
864
00:52:21,100 --> 00:52:25,460
Lucy was very, shall we say,
loose with the cheque now and again,
865
00:52:25,460 --> 00:52:27,780
if we were on hard times.
866
00:52:27,780 --> 00:52:31,540
Our customers were not just
the soon-to-be celebrities
867
00:52:31,540 --> 00:52:35,540
of the industries, they were the old
guard of Los Angeles.
868
00:52:35,540 --> 00:52:38,900
I mean, you're talking
old-school money.
869
00:52:38,900 --> 00:52:42,260
There was a big communal table that
my father used to sit everybody at.
870
00:52:42,260 --> 00:52:44,820
So, you would sit with policemen,
you would sit with firemen,
871
00:52:44,820 --> 00:52:46,780
sometimes you'd sit with an actor,
sometimes...
872
00:52:46,780 --> 00:52:48,180
I mean, a football player...
873
00:52:48,180 --> 00:52:50,180
You never had any idea
who you would sit with.
874
00:52:50,180 --> 00:52:53,980
What happened was, Linda had
decided that she wanted to change
875
00:52:53,980 --> 00:52:56,620
the 8-track cos she
wanted to hear something else,
876
00:52:56,620 --> 00:52:59,780
so she had to step up on
this little wine rack.
877
00:52:59,780 --> 00:53:03,140
And at that moment, the Governor,
Jerry Brown, comes in that room
878
00:53:03,140 --> 00:53:05,580
and he sees her and it was,
like,
879
00:53:05,580 --> 00:53:08,980
"Wow! Who's she?"
880
00:53:08,980 --> 00:53:12,580
So, my father went
and he sat them together.
881
00:53:13,980 --> 00:53:17,580
And, well, he fell in love with her,
there was no question about that.
882
00:53:17,580 --> 00:53:21,060
Jerry likes passionate music.
He likes passionate music,
883
00:53:21,060 --> 00:53:23,740
passionate women, you know,
that's his deal.
884
00:53:23,740 --> 00:53:25,580
We had a really good time together.
885
00:53:28,020 --> 00:53:30,940
He went out to run for president
for the last couple of months,
886
00:53:30,940 --> 00:53:33,580
and if it hadn't been for the fact
that I got to see him on TV,
887
00:53:33,580 --> 00:53:36,900
I mean, I would have forgot
what he looked like. So...
888
00:53:38,220 --> 00:53:41,340
But he came back yesterday, and he's
going to make it all better now.
889
00:53:41,340 --> 00:53:44,460
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
890
00:53:44,460 --> 00:53:47,340
So he told me, anyway.
I've yet to see.
891
00:53:47,340 --> 00:53:49,220
DRUMS START
892
00:53:49,220 --> 00:53:52,420
# My boyfriend's back
and you're gonna be in trouble
893
00:53:52,420 --> 00:53:54,220
# Hey, now
894
00:53:54,220 --> 00:53:55,980
# Hey, now, my boyfriend's back... #
895
00:53:55,980 --> 00:53:58,900
Did you have much of a problem
when you were with Jerry Brown,
896
00:53:58,900 --> 00:54:02,420
people expecting you to have
political views along the
897
00:54:02,420 --> 00:54:06,780
lines of Governor Brown's, whereas,
you're a singer, he's a politician?
898
00:54:06,780 --> 00:54:08,700
Our relationship was completely
personal,
899
00:54:08,700 --> 00:54:10,020
it wasn't political at all.
900
00:54:10,020 --> 00:54:12,580
So, you know, he did
politics, I did music. Right.
901
00:54:12,580 --> 00:54:14,580
It's easy to separate that.
902
00:54:14,580 --> 00:54:16,580
Now, you went to South Africa
recently.
903
00:54:16,580 --> 00:54:19,300
Did you receive criticism
for going there?
904
00:54:19,300 --> 00:54:21,460
As far as I was concerned,
it was just a gig.
905
00:54:21,460 --> 00:54:23,380
I don't think that
if you disagree with
906
00:54:23,380 --> 00:54:26,180
the policies of the government,
which I do very definitely disagree
907
00:54:26,180 --> 00:54:28,820
with policies of the South African
government, I don't think
908
00:54:28,820 --> 00:54:31,260
that's enough of a reason not to go
and play music there.
909
00:54:31,260 --> 00:54:33,540
If I did that, I wouldn't be able
to play in the United States
910
00:54:33,540 --> 00:54:35,860
because I don't agree with
their policies about nuclear power
911
00:54:35,860 --> 00:54:37,380
or nuclear warfare.
912
00:54:37,380 --> 00:54:40,260
I mean, my God, we've got
this person running the country,
913
00:54:40,260 --> 00:54:42,140
you know, that I completely
disagree with.
914
00:54:42,140 --> 00:54:45,060
If I decided that I wasn't going
to play where attitudes
915
00:54:45,060 --> 00:54:48,500
of racism prevailed, I certainly
couldn't play in Australia
916
00:54:48,500 --> 00:54:52,180
or England or lots of places
in the United States,
917
00:54:52,180 --> 00:54:54,060
a lot of places
in the American South,
918
00:54:54,060 --> 00:54:56,140
or Boston, which is
extremely racist.
919
00:54:56,140 --> 00:54:58,660
I went to South Africa. It has
a fascist, repressive government.
920
00:54:58,660 --> 00:55:00,540
I'm very interested
in the culture down there.
921
00:55:00,540 --> 00:55:02,340
You've just got finished talking,
you say,
922
00:55:02,340 --> 00:55:04,260
"Why does anyone think I'm
controversial?"
923
00:55:04,260 --> 00:55:06,380
Do you realise what you've just
talked about here?
924
00:55:06,380 --> 00:55:08,660
We've just received all
your political views in one blow.
925
00:55:08,660 --> 00:55:10,660
I'm teasing, I'm not
putting it down, honestly.
926
00:55:10,660 --> 00:55:12,940
I don't think my political
views are very controversial.
927
00:55:12,940 --> 00:55:14,980
Who likes nuclear warfare?
928
00:55:14,980 --> 00:55:17,340
I remember her having
the Wall Street Journal in her bag
929
00:55:17,340 --> 00:55:19,700
one time in the '70s when she was
dating Jerry,
930
00:55:19,700 --> 00:55:22,740
and I went... You know, I'd thought
she was really smart,
931
00:55:22,740 --> 00:55:24,340
but she's really well read
932
00:55:24,340 --> 00:55:26,900
and very, very up on a lot
of different things.
933
00:55:26,900 --> 00:55:29,980
She's as wide-ranging
in her critical,
934
00:55:29,980 --> 00:55:33,460
intellectual pursuits,
as she is in her musical pursuits,
935
00:55:33,460 --> 00:55:38,340
and you don't find that kind of
depth and eclecticism in pop music.
936
00:55:39,940 --> 00:55:45,260
Jerry needed somebody that
could be full-time there for him.
937
00:55:45,260 --> 00:55:48,700
You couldn't have two careers
in that family.
938
00:55:48,700 --> 00:55:51,140
# I never will marry... #
939
00:55:51,140 --> 00:55:52,900
There's not enough time.
940
00:55:52,900 --> 00:55:56,100
# I'll be no man's wife
941
00:55:56,100 --> 00:55:59,460
# I intend to stay single
942
00:56:00,580 --> 00:56:03,980
# For the rest of my life... #
943
00:56:03,980 --> 00:56:07,420
I mean, the same reason
I never got married!
944
00:56:07,420 --> 00:56:10,460
I don't know, I think it's hard
being a woman in the music business.
945
00:56:10,460 --> 00:56:13,740
You know, it's...
It's a different kind of life.
946
00:56:13,740 --> 00:56:17,100
# And the rushing deep waters
947
00:56:17,100 --> 00:56:21,260
# Went over my head. #
948
00:56:21,260 --> 00:56:23,940
Well, you don't need to get married.
You know what I mean?
949
00:56:23,940 --> 00:56:25,700
It's like, we have our own income,
950
00:56:25,700 --> 00:56:29,180
and you don't have to have the state
verify that you love somebody,
951
00:56:29,180 --> 00:56:31,700
and when that relationship
is over, you leave.
952
00:56:31,700 --> 00:56:34,460
Neither one of us are really
made for marriage
953
00:56:34,460 --> 00:56:37,460
or, I think, long-term
relationships.
954
00:56:37,460 --> 00:56:39,180
So, why did you break up?
955
00:56:39,180 --> 00:56:41,780
I can't remember.
Maybe she could tell you.
956
00:56:41,780 --> 00:56:45,460
# It's so easy to fall in love
957
00:56:45,460 --> 00:56:50,260
# It's so easy to fall
in love
958
00:56:50,260 --> 00:56:54,460
# People tell me love's for fools
959
00:56:54,460 --> 00:56:58,020
# Here I go breaking all the rules
960
00:56:58,020 --> 00:57:00,620
# It seems so easy
It's so easy... #
961
00:57:00,620 --> 00:57:03,500
My mum wanted to be a scientist,
but she had four kids,
962
00:57:03,500 --> 00:57:07,060
and I think that it was always
a little bit of a disappointment.
963
00:57:07,060 --> 00:57:09,620
# It's so easy to fall in love... #
964
00:57:09,620 --> 00:57:12,460
She always said to me, "Go out and
have a life." You know,
965
00:57:12,460 --> 00:57:15,020
you don't just have to get married.
There are alternatives.
966
00:57:15,020 --> 00:57:18,700
# It's so easy to fall in love
967
00:57:18,700 --> 00:57:22,900
# It's so easy to fall
in love. #
968
00:57:22,900 --> 00:57:24,700
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
969
00:57:24,700 --> 00:57:27,740
I have to confess, I got a really
bad crush on this guy.
970
00:57:27,740 --> 00:57:31,540
We had a little romance for a while,
but it wasn't long-lived.
971
00:57:31,540 --> 00:57:33,060
He dumped me for this pig.
972
00:57:33,060 --> 00:57:35,500
Well, at least I got his picture.
973
00:57:38,380 --> 00:57:42,540
# Does he love me, I want to know
974
00:57:42,540 --> 00:57:46,140
# How can I tell if he loves me so?
975
00:57:46,140 --> 00:57:48,100
# Is it in his eyes?
976
00:57:48,100 --> 00:57:50,540
# Oh, no, you make believe
977
00:57:50,540 --> 00:57:52,500
# Is it in his sighs?
978
00:57:52,500 --> 00:57:54,900
# Well, no, you'd be deceived
979
00:57:54,900 --> 00:57:56,780
# If you wanna know
Shoop, shoop, shoop, shoop
980
00:57:56,780 --> 00:57:58,460
# If he loves you so
Shoop, shoop, shoop
981
00:57:58,460 --> 00:58:02,060
# It's in his kiss
That's where it is! #
982
00:58:02,060 --> 00:58:03,460
APPLAUSE
983
00:58:03,460 --> 00:58:04,780
To present the nominees
984
00:58:04,780 --> 00:58:07,860
for Favourite Female in Rock and Pop
985
00:58:07,860 --> 00:58:11,540
are Teddy Pendergrass
and Tanya Tucker.
986
00:58:11,540 --> 00:58:14,140
The nominees are...
Linda Ronstadt.
987
00:58:14,140 --> 00:58:16,460
APPLAUSE
988
00:58:16,460 --> 00:58:18,620
Miss Barbra Streisand.
989
00:58:18,620 --> 00:58:21,060
APPLAUSE
990
00:58:21,060 --> 00:58:23,940
And Donna Summer.
991
00:58:23,940 --> 00:58:25,900
You open the envelope,
I'm too nervous.
992
00:58:25,900 --> 00:58:28,620
I'll do the gentlemanly thing
here, and I'll open it,
993
00:58:28,620 --> 00:58:31,100
if you will read.
OK. And the winner is...
994
00:58:31,100 --> 00:58:33,180
..Linda Ronstadt.
995
00:58:33,180 --> 00:58:35,820
APPLAUSE
996
00:58:37,380 --> 00:58:40,980
Linda was the Queen.
She was like what Beyonce is now.
997
00:58:43,060 --> 00:58:46,100
She was the first female rock
and roll star.
998
00:58:46,100 --> 00:58:47,940
# Want love?
999
00:58:49,700 --> 00:58:51,780
# Get closer... #
1000
00:58:51,780 --> 00:58:57,660
She was the only female artist to
have five platinum albums in a row,
1001
00:58:57,660 --> 00:59:00,060
and most of them multiplatinum.
1002
00:59:00,060 --> 00:59:02,940
# Hold her hand... #
1003
00:59:02,940 --> 00:59:06,020
For Favourite Female
in Rock and Pop...
1004
00:59:06,020 --> 00:59:07,500
..Favourite Country Single...
1005
00:59:07,500 --> 00:59:09,740
..Blue Bayou, by Linda Ronstadt.
1006
00:59:09,740 --> 00:59:10,980
And the winner is...
1007
00:59:10,980 --> 00:59:13,500
It's another one! ..Linda Ronstadt.
The winner is...
1008
00:59:13,500 --> 00:59:15,500
..Linda Ronstadt.
1009
00:59:15,500 --> 00:59:18,860
# You make a fuss
when her eyes ain't on you
1010
00:59:18,860 --> 00:59:22,420
# Well, give her something
to look forward to
1011
00:59:22,420 --> 00:59:26,300
# Remember all
those other girls who ran... #
1012
00:59:26,300 --> 00:59:28,820
The nature of being a pop musician
is that you get
1013
00:59:28,820 --> 00:59:31,540
these things that are successful,
then you have to sing them
1014
00:59:31,540 --> 00:59:34,100
for the rest of your life,
over and over and over again,
1015
00:59:34,100 --> 00:59:36,700
and they start sounding
like your washing machine.
1016
00:59:36,700 --> 00:59:38,900
# Want love... #
1017
00:59:38,900 --> 00:59:41,300
I didn't like singing
in the big arenas,
1018
00:59:41,300 --> 00:59:44,980
because the sound was, like,
you know, you'd hear the guitar solo
1019
00:59:44,980 --> 00:59:47,980
that they played last week
still ringing around the rafters.
1020
00:59:50,380 --> 00:59:52,980
So, I started looking
for other things to do.
1021
00:59:57,300 --> 01:00:00,460
There is this feeling that she
has about the music itself,
1022
01:00:00,460 --> 01:00:02,940
rather than the career itself.
1023
01:00:02,940 --> 01:00:06,660
You know, some people are just
hard-core careerists,
1024
01:00:06,660 --> 01:00:08,860
and there's nothing wrong with that.
1025
01:00:08,860 --> 01:00:12,380
You know, it's how your mind works
that makes the difference.
1026
01:00:12,380 --> 01:00:14,700
It's your... How you see yourself
1027
01:00:14,700 --> 01:00:17,740
or how you see yourself
in the world, you know?
1028
01:00:17,740 --> 01:00:20,860
And not everybody is a pure
art for art's sake,
1029
01:00:20,860 --> 01:00:23,100
and not everybody's a pure
careerist, either,
1030
01:00:23,100 --> 01:00:25,940
especially in music,
because musicians love music,
1031
01:00:25,940 --> 01:00:27,260
or they wouldn't do it.
1032
01:00:30,540 --> 01:00:34,660
She wanted a change.
She got tired of doing arena rock.
1033
01:00:34,660 --> 01:00:36,660
She wanted to try different things.
1034
01:00:38,340 --> 01:00:41,180
I picked up the phone and called
my great friend John Rockwell,
1035
01:00:41,180 --> 01:00:44,220
who writes music criticism
for the New York Times.
1036
01:00:44,220 --> 01:00:47,260
I said, "I hate playing
these big sporting arenas.
1037
01:00:47,260 --> 01:00:50,020
"It's not good for the audience,
it's not good for the band.
1038
01:00:50,020 --> 01:00:53,380
"I want to sing in a theatre with
a proscenium and a curtain."
1039
01:00:53,380 --> 01:00:55,580
He said, "Well, the next time
you come to New York,
1040
01:00:55,580 --> 01:00:58,900
"I'll take you down to make
this fella named Joseph Papp.
1041
01:00:58,900 --> 01:01:01,620
"He has a theatre. It's called
the New York Public Theater,
1042
01:01:01,620 --> 01:01:04,940
and he does Shakespeare
and he does musicals, he did Hair."
1043
01:01:04,940 --> 01:01:08,100
He wanted to do
the Pirates of Penzance.
1044
01:01:08,100 --> 01:01:10,460
My mum was a Gilbert
and Sullivan lover.
1045
01:01:10,460 --> 01:01:14,500
She had a big book of Gilbert
and Sullivan songs on the piano,
1046
01:01:14,500 --> 01:01:18,540
and I actually learned
all the soprano parts as a kid.
1047
01:01:18,540 --> 01:01:20,860
And I loved singing them,
1048
01:01:20,860 --> 01:01:23,060
but I never got a chance to
in rock and roll.
1049
01:01:24,220 --> 01:01:27,540
That was in her roots,
that was in her upbringing,
1050
01:01:27,540 --> 01:01:30,940
it was part of her authentic
musical experience.
1051
01:01:32,420 --> 01:01:36,100
Joe called me and said, if I wanted
to do the part, I could have it.
1052
01:01:36,100 --> 01:01:38,020
And I said, "No, I have to come
and audition,"
1053
01:01:38,020 --> 01:01:40,660
because I didn't know whether
I could sing it or not.
1054
01:01:40,660 --> 01:01:43,900
She wanted to be certain
that she would do it well.
1055
01:01:43,900 --> 01:01:46,260
They thought being able to say Linda
Ronstadt's in it
1056
01:01:46,260 --> 01:01:47,580
would be good for business.
1057
01:01:47,580 --> 01:01:50,660
But her concern was, well,
will it be good for the show?
1058
01:01:50,660 --> 01:01:52,940
SHE SINGS HIGH SOPRANO NOTE
1059
01:01:54,860 --> 01:01:57,500
I was there for several rehearsals
and she was fabulous.
1060
01:01:57,500 --> 01:01:59,380
She just grabbed it by the horns
and...
1061
01:02:00,620 --> 01:02:04,780
HIGH SOPRANO NOTE
1062
01:02:04,780 --> 01:02:06,620
That was the first job I was ever
offered
1063
01:02:06,620 --> 01:02:08,420
where I actually got to sing
like that.
1064
01:02:08,420 --> 01:02:11,140
I was delighted, I really was, but
I can't really do it very well yet.
1065
01:02:11,140 --> 01:02:13,580
Because it's really hard, you can't
learn that overnight.
1066
01:02:13,580 --> 01:02:15,380
You've got to be in training.
In training, yep.
1067
01:02:15,380 --> 01:02:19,300
# Poor wandering ones... #
1068
01:02:19,300 --> 01:02:23,380
Linda had a great voice and
she had a great vision for herself,
1069
01:02:23,380 --> 01:02:26,740
and she didn't want to just be
singing rock and roll.
1070
01:02:26,740 --> 01:02:28,260
She wanted to do everything.
1071
01:02:29,300 --> 01:02:32,420
# Hold, monsters!
1072
01:02:32,420 --> 01:02:35,300
# Ere your pirate caravanserai
1073
01:02:35,300 --> 01:02:39,260
# Proceed against our will
to wed us all
1074
01:02:39,260 --> 01:02:43,780
# Just bear in mind that we are
wards in Chancery
1075
01:02:43,780 --> 01:02:47,780
# And father is a Major General... #
1076
01:02:47,780 --> 01:02:49,500
I knew some of her songs, sure,
1077
01:02:49,500 --> 01:02:52,740
but operetta?
1078
01:02:52,740 --> 01:02:59,980
# Prepare, unhappy
General Stanley...#
1079
01:02:59,980 --> 01:03:02,580
A week into rehearsal,
we all sang through the score,
1080
01:03:02,580 --> 01:03:04,420
just sitting in a circle on chairs,
1081
01:03:04,420 --> 01:03:06,580
and when I heard her voice
1082
01:03:06,580 --> 01:03:08,140
it was just...
1083
01:03:08,140 --> 01:03:10,140
..this bel canto,
1084
01:03:10,140 --> 01:03:12,020
soprano,
1085
01:03:12,020 --> 01:03:13,780
gorgeous,
1086
01:03:13,780 --> 01:03:15,300
musical...
1087
01:03:16,820 --> 01:03:19,180
..celestial yet earthy,
1088
01:03:19,180 --> 01:03:22,380
just pure, it was so pure,
it just made me cry.
1089
01:03:22,380 --> 01:03:25,180
I just remember just listening
to that voice, it was just...
1090
01:03:25,180 --> 01:03:27,220
Singing that stuff?
1091
01:03:30,060 --> 01:03:31,300
Touching.
1092
01:03:31,300 --> 01:03:35,180
# Oh, sisters,
deaf to pity's name, for shame,
1093
01:03:35,180 --> 01:03:39,180
# It's true that he has gone astray,
but pray
1094
01:03:39,180 --> 01:03:41,700
# Is that a reason good and true
1095
01:03:41,700 --> 01:03:49,500
# Why you should all be deaf
to pity's name? #
1096
01:03:49,500 --> 01:03:52,460
Gilbert and Sullivan? Really?
1097
01:03:52,460 --> 01:03:55,300
A rock star who has the guts
to go out there
1098
01:03:55,300 --> 01:03:58,460
and do that kind of musical comedy?
1099
01:03:58,460 --> 01:04:00,020
She just didn't care.
1100
01:04:00,020 --> 01:04:02,740
To her, it was like
a mountain to climb.
1101
01:04:02,740 --> 01:04:07,940
# Oh, oh, oh
1102
01:04:07,940 --> 01:04:13,260
# Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
1103
01:04:13,260 --> 01:04:18,220
# Oh, oh, oh, oh... #
1104
01:04:18,220 --> 01:04:21,380
Linda can bring herself
to sing anything.
1105
01:04:21,380 --> 01:04:24,820
She could sing opera, she could do
anything with her voice.
1106
01:04:24,820 --> 01:04:26,380
I couldn't do all that.
1107
01:04:26,380 --> 01:04:31,500
# Take
1108
01:04:31,500 --> 01:04:39,300
# Heart! #
1109
01:04:39,300 --> 01:04:41,260
Kevin Kline and I were both
nominated
1110
01:04:41,260 --> 01:04:42,940
for Tony Awards for that show.
1111
01:04:42,940 --> 01:04:44,660
Kevin deserved it more than I did.
1112
01:04:44,660 --> 01:04:46,500
All I did was walk around and sing.
1113
01:04:53,900 --> 01:04:55,820
My mom died during
Pirates Of Penzance.
1114
01:04:58,100 --> 01:04:59,980
I wasn't with her when she died,
1115
01:04:59,980 --> 01:05:02,700
and I just couldn't quite get it
through my head that she was
1116
01:05:02,700 --> 01:05:05,580
gone out of the world and I was
never going to see her again.
1117
01:05:08,100 --> 01:05:09,580
She'd had all these records,
1118
01:05:09,580 --> 01:05:12,060
Louis Armstrong, Ella Fitzgerald,
1119
01:05:12,060 --> 01:05:14,380
Billie Holiday, Peggy Lee,
1120
01:05:14,380 --> 01:05:17,580
and I thought, "I'd like to try
to sing some of those songs."
1121
01:05:17,580 --> 01:05:22,700
# Only the lonely go... #
1122
01:05:22,700 --> 01:05:26,100
When we lived together, almost every
evening, the last record
1123
01:05:26,100 --> 01:05:28,500
we listened to was a Frank Sinatra
album called
1124
01:05:28,500 --> 01:05:30,140
Songs For Only The Lonely
1125
01:05:30,140 --> 01:05:32,180
with Nelson Riddle arranging.
1126
01:05:34,860 --> 01:05:37,460
Constantly, people were telling
Linda,
1127
01:05:37,460 --> 01:05:39,140
"You can't do this."
1128
01:05:39,140 --> 01:05:40,540
I'm guilty.
1129
01:05:40,540 --> 01:05:43,020
When she was going to do
the Nelson Riddle album,
1130
01:05:43,020 --> 01:05:45,340
I didn't think it was a good idea,
1131
01:05:45,340 --> 01:05:48,180
not because she couldn't do it,
but because
1132
01:05:48,180 --> 01:05:52,340
we had this run going with rock
and roll records and country rock.
1133
01:05:53,980 --> 01:05:57,380
I said, "I'd like to find somebody
that can write and arrange like
Nelson Riddle."
1134
01:05:57,380 --> 01:06:00,660
He said, "Why don't you just ask
Nelson Riddle?"
1135
01:06:00,660 --> 01:06:03,580
Well, I didn't know
he was still alive.
1136
01:06:03,580 --> 01:06:06,140
You are the only person that
I knew that could do
1137
01:06:06,140 --> 01:06:07,700
orchestrations like this.
1138
01:06:07,700 --> 01:06:09,220
I didn't know where you were,
1139
01:06:09,220 --> 01:06:11,180
whether you'd be interested
in working with me,
1140
01:06:11,180 --> 01:06:13,900
whether you'd ever heard of me
or not, and as soon as I started
1141
01:06:13,900 --> 01:06:16,300
learning the songs, I just...
They just got inside me.
1142
01:06:16,300 --> 01:06:18,060
I wanted to record them and I wanted
to do it
1143
01:06:18,060 --> 01:06:19,940
worse than anything I've ever wanted
to do.
1144
01:06:19,940 --> 01:06:22,140
I remember your phrase for this.
You said,
1145
01:06:22,140 --> 01:06:24,900
"These are songs I cannot not do."
1146
01:06:24,900 --> 01:06:26,580
I can't not do them.
At some point...
1147
01:06:26,580 --> 01:06:28,420
It's like falling in love, you know?
1148
01:06:28,420 --> 01:06:30,260
Choice doesn't even enter into it.
1149
01:06:30,260 --> 01:06:34,700
# What's new?
1150
01:06:34,700 --> 01:06:38,860
# How is the world
1151
01:06:38,860 --> 01:06:42,380
# Treating you? #
1152
01:06:42,380 --> 01:06:44,980
I would think, "Well, my God,
how can I sing these songs?
1153
01:06:44,980 --> 01:06:47,700
"Ella Fitzgerald has sung them,
Billie Holliday has sung them,
1154
01:06:47,700 --> 01:06:49,180
"Frank Sinatra has sung them."
1155
01:06:51,660 --> 01:06:54,580
# Handsome as ever... #
1156
01:06:54,580 --> 01:06:57,180
She studied all of those records
1157
01:06:57,180 --> 01:07:00,220
and she studied every available
version she could find
1158
01:07:00,220 --> 01:07:01,700
of each one of those songs.
1159
01:07:01,700 --> 01:07:03,940
She is a real student.
1160
01:07:03,940 --> 01:07:07,140
# What's new?
1161
01:07:07,140 --> 01:07:13,740
# How did that romance
come through? #
1162
01:07:13,740 --> 01:07:16,540
She told me she wanted to get those
songs out of the elevator,
1163
01:07:16,540 --> 01:07:19,700
by which she meant that that's
the only place you heard them,
1164
01:07:19,700 --> 01:07:22,740
and she wanted to point out that
that's not where they belong,
1165
01:07:22,740 --> 01:07:24,780
that they were some of the best
songs ever written.
1166
01:07:24,780 --> 01:07:29,420
# Pardon my asking what's new... #
1167
01:07:30,380 --> 01:07:33,660
I went to her house
and tried to talk her out of it,
1168
01:07:33,660 --> 01:07:36,980
but as soon as she told me
Nelson Riddle was going to do it,
1169
01:07:36,980 --> 01:07:40,140
I said, "Well, I'd like to come
to the record session."
1170
01:07:40,140 --> 01:07:44,220
XYLOPHONE AND HARP PLAY
1171
01:07:45,500 --> 01:07:49,260
# Please... #
1172
01:07:49,260 --> 01:07:52,420
When my sister was in high school,
she got to go to her senior prom,
1173
01:07:52,420 --> 01:07:55,380
she got to wear these strapless
dresses with a lot of tulle,
1174
01:07:55,380 --> 01:07:57,220
and I always wanted
one of those dresses.
1175
01:07:59,220 --> 01:08:02,180
But by the time I got to high
school, the styles had changed,
1176
01:08:02,180 --> 01:08:05,020
and I never got to have one, so I
said, "I'm going to put
a show together,
1177
01:08:05,020 --> 01:08:07,300
"we're all going to
get to wear those dresses."
1178
01:08:07,300 --> 01:08:11,860
# So dream
1179
01:08:11,860 --> 01:08:15,940
# Dream
1180
01:08:15,940 --> 01:08:23,580
# Dream. #
1181
01:08:24,860 --> 01:08:26,380
This is a real treat tonight.
1182
01:08:26,380 --> 01:08:29,900
We have three marvellous singers
on the show, and do you know
1183
01:08:29,900 --> 01:08:32,620
how many times they have been
nominated for Grammys between them?
1184
01:08:32,620 --> 01:08:34,300
45 times in total.
1185
01:08:34,300 --> 01:08:35,980
APPLAUSE
1186
01:08:35,980 --> 01:08:36,980
And...
1187
01:08:38,740 --> 01:08:41,180
..the albums they've all sold
are in the multimillions,
1188
01:08:41,180 --> 01:08:43,380
and I guess it's taken the ladies
about ten years to get
1189
01:08:43,380 --> 01:08:46,060
this together where
they wanted to work together,
1190
01:08:46,060 --> 01:08:49,180
and made an album called Trio,
and it was well worth the time.
1191
01:08:49,180 --> 01:08:51,860
The album is described as old-timey,
but it's sensational.
1192
01:08:51,860 --> 01:08:54,940
Would you welcome Linda Ronstadt,
Dolly Parton and Emmylou Harris.
1193
01:08:54,940 --> 01:08:56,900
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
1194
01:09:02,420 --> 01:09:05,620
I'd met Dolly. I saw her
singing on the Grand Ole Opry
1195
01:09:05,620 --> 01:09:07,140
and she was a wonder to behold.
1196
01:09:07,140 --> 01:09:10,100
What you have in front of you is
one of the most beautiful girls
1197
01:09:10,100 --> 01:09:12,420
you've ever seen, you know,
she's just gorgeous.
1198
01:09:13,580 --> 01:09:15,500
When she opened her mouth and
started to sing,
1199
01:09:15,500 --> 01:09:18,180
I fell on the floor.
She's an amazing singer.
1200
01:09:18,180 --> 01:09:23,300
# Jolene, Jolene, Jolene, Jolene
1201
01:09:23,300 --> 01:09:28,620
# I'm begging of you, please,
don't take my man... #
1202
01:09:29,620 --> 01:09:33,180
I told Emmylou about her and then
Emmy met her somehow.
1203
01:09:33,180 --> 01:09:35,060
# Jolene... #
1204
01:09:35,060 --> 01:09:38,900
When I made my first trip
to Nashville, the powers that be
1205
01:09:38,900 --> 01:09:42,660
set up a meeting with Dolly, and she
was making a record in her studio
1206
01:09:42,660 --> 01:09:45,140
and it was, like, unbelievable,
1207
01:09:45,140 --> 01:09:47,740
it was better than any
Disneyland visit.
1208
01:09:47,740 --> 01:09:50,300
# And eyes of emerald green... #
1209
01:09:50,300 --> 01:09:52,260
They kind of found my music
somewhere
1210
01:09:52,260 --> 01:09:56,540
and kind of wanted to meet me and
that's kind of how we all started.
1211
01:09:57,860 --> 01:09:59,220
Emmy called me up and she said,
1212
01:09:59,220 --> 01:10:01,620
"Dolly Parton's at my house.
You have to come over."
1213
01:10:01,620 --> 01:10:04,940
I was living like 40 minutes away,
and I got there in 20 minutes.
1214
01:10:04,940 --> 01:10:08,300
She came over, and there we were,
the three of us,
1215
01:10:08,300 --> 01:10:10,460
and we were there with our idol,
Dolly.
1216
01:10:10,460 --> 01:10:11,940
And they had this big old house,
1217
01:10:11,940 --> 01:10:14,260
almost like a bunch of hippies
just living up there,
1218
01:10:14,260 --> 01:10:16,940
different people, good musicians.
They had different bedrooms.
1219
01:10:16,940 --> 01:10:20,740
It was just a free-for-all kind
of house, a dream for musicians.
1220
01:10:20,740 --> 01:10:24,180
And somebody said,
"Well, sing something."
1221
01:10:24,180 --> 01:10:28,380
# Bury me beneath the willow
1222
01:10:28,380 --> 01:10:31,660
# Under the weeping willow tree
1223
01:10:31,660 --> 01:10:35,860
# So he may know where I am sleeping
1224
01:10:35,860 --> 01:10:39,140
# And perhaps he'll weep for me. #
1225
01:10:39,140 --> 01:10:40,500
So I started singing that
1226
01:10:40,500 --> 01:10:42,620
and then they started saying,
"Sing that again."
1227
01:10:42,620 --> 01:10:45,220
# Oh, bury me... #
And here come all these harmonies
1228
01:10:45,220 --> 01:10:47,860
and, oh, it was just chilling,
chilling, chilling.
1229
01:10:47,860 --> 01:10:50,500
# Bury me beneath the willow
1230
01:10:50,500 --> 01:10:54,340
# Under the weeping willow tree
1231
01:10:54,340 --> 01:10:59,580
# Where he may know where
I am sleeping
1232
01:10:59,580 --> 01:11:03,180
# And perhaps he'll weep for me... #
1233
01:11:03,180 --> 01:11:05,580
When we heard our voices,
1234
01:11:05,580 --> 01:11:07,820
it was like injecting some kind
of serum
1235
01:11:07,820 --> 01:11:11,100
into your veins. It was like a high
like you've never felt.
1236
01:11:11,100 --> 01:11:13,060
We sang first in a living room
and said,
1237
01:11:13,060 --> 01:11:16,420
"Well, this sounds really good."
It was special, it was different
when we sang together.
1238
01:11:16,420 --> 01:11:18,580
It was special. It was like
a sister,
1239
01:11:18,580 --> 01:11:20,940
the sound of sisters, musical
sisters.
1240
01:11:20,940 --> 01:11:26,380
# Won't you bury me
beneath the willow
1241
01:11:26,380 --> 01:11:30,140
# Under the weeping willow tree
1242
01:11:30,140 --> 01:11:32,620
# Where he may know... #
1243
01:11:32,620 --> 01:11:35,860
At that moment, we thought,
"We have to do a record."
1244
01:11:38,340 --> 01:11:41,700
# To know, know, know him
1245
01:11:41,700 --> 01:11:46,140
# Is to love, love, love him
1246
01:11:46,140 --> 01:11:50,860
# Just to see him smile
1247
01:11:50,860 --> 01:11:54,140
# Makes my life worthwhile
1248
01:11:54,140 --> 01:11:56,140
# To know, know, know... #
1249
01:11:56,140 --> 01:12:00,020
We learned so much about singing
from each other because you get to
sort of be them for a second
1250
01:12:00,020 --> 01:12:02,740
when you're shadowing them
in a harmony and you get to have
like a...
1251
01:12:02,740 --> 01:12:04,260
It's like getting on an eagle
1252
01:12:04,260 --> 01:12:07,140
and getting to see the world
through that eagle's experience.
1253
01:12:07,140 --> 01:12:10,980
I get to sing through Dolly's voice
or sing through Emmy's voice
when I sing real close harmony.
1254
01:12:10,980 --> 01:12:18,820
# Why can't you see
1255
01:12:18,820 --> 01:12:22,380
# How... #
1256
01:12:22,380 --> 01:12:24,500
The only big disagreements would be,
1257
01:12:24,500 --> 01:12:27,700
"Are we going to use autoharp
or dulcimer on this song?"
1258
01:12:27,700 --> 01:12:29,380
Yeah.
1259
01:12:29,380 --> 01:12:31,740
Sometimes we would disagree
about who would sing lead
1260
01:12:31,740 --> 01:12:34,100
cos Emmy and I always want Dolly
to sing lead on everything.
1261
01:12:34,100 --> 01:12:36,180
"Dolly will sound great on that."
1262
01:12:36,180 --> 01:12:38,340
It's like, "You sing lead!"
"No, you sing lead."
1263
01:12:40,580 --> 01:12:43,060
Linda is such a perfectionist.
1264
01:12:43,060 --> 01:12:46,620
She's a pain in the ass sometimes
because she is such a perfectionist,
1265
01:12:46,620 --> 01:12:49,220
cos she will not have it
unless it's perfect.
1266
01:12:49,220 --> 01:12:52,220
She used to make me sing those
harmonies over and over and over
1267
01:12:52,220 --> 01:12:55,460
and I said, "I'm going to sing it
the same way, no matter what."
1268
01:12:55,460 --> 01:12:57,700
"No, you're not, you're going
to hit this one note."
1269
01:12:57,700 --> 01:12:58,980
See, I don't know how to...
1270
01:12:58,980 --> 01:13:01,740
All those intricate harmonies like
Emmylou and Linda do.
1271
01:13:01,740 --> 01:13:04,700
I just sing that
raw stuff from feeling,
1272
01:13:04,700 --> 01:13:07,500
and it ain't always proper,
but it sounds good.
1273
01:13:07,500 --> 01:13:11,540
# Yes, just to know him
1274
01:13:11,540 --> 01:13:15,580
# Is to love, love, love him
1275
01:13:15,580 --> 01:13:21,780
# And I do. #
1276
01:13:21,780 --> 01:13:25,020
Linda, you've sung
just about all types of music.
1277
01:13:25,020 --> 01:13:28,860
Light opera, you've been on
Broadway, rock and roll, pop.
1278
01:13:28,860 --> 01:13:30,540
What's your next project
going to be?
1279
01:13:30,540 --> 01:13:34,620
I'm going to do an album of Mexican
music, of traditional Mexican music.
1280
01:13:34,620 --> 01:13:37,060
I'm kind of a traditional Mexican
myself, you know,
1281
01:13:37,060 --> 01:13:39,380
I grew up about 40 minutes
from the Mexican border,
1282
01:13:39,380 --> 01:13:42,140
my family are Mexican
and that is my roots,
1283
01:13:42,140 --> 01:13:43,740
that's what I came from
1284
01:13:43,740 --> 01:13:46,220
and I have been dying to do this
record for years and years
1285
01:13:46,220 --> 01:13:48,700
and I'm getting round to it this
year, boy, I'm going to do it.
1286
01:13:50,340 --> 01:13:57,620
# Intensa nostalgia invade mi
pensamiento... #
1287
01:13:57,620 --> 01:14:00,340
Our neighbour that lived behind us
in the garage apartment,
1288
01:14:00,340 --> 01:14:03,060
him was Harry Dean Stanton,
a great character actor,
1289
01:14:03,060 --> 01:14:06,060
and a great singer of Mexican
folk songs.
1290
01:14:06,060 --> 01:14:09,100
We would hear him up
till the wee hours
1291
01:14:09,100 --> 01:14:11,620
singing these Mexican folk songs,
these canciones.
1292
01:14:11,620 --> 01:14:13,220
And, um...
1293
01:14:13,220 --> 01:14:15,660
..Linda knew all those songs.
1294
01:14:15,660 --> 01:14:18,180
I don't think people thought
of her as, er...
1295
01:14:19,300 --> 01:14:21,100
..as Mexican.
1296
01:14:21,100 --> 01:14:23,860
It certainly never came up.
I never heard it.
1297
01:14:23,860 --> 01:14:27,180
I mean, the name Ronstadt
is not Hernandez.
1298
01:14:27,180 --> 01:14:29,100
Ronstadt is a German-sounding name.
1299
01:14:29,100 --> 01:14:33,260
No, she's certainly from
Mexican heritage,
1300
01:14:33,260 --> 01:14:35,180
but it wasn't the most apparent
thing.
1301
01:14:35,180 --> 01:14:37,380
You know what? I want to see where
you put your D.
1302
01:14:37,380 --> 01:14:39,500
Say "ganador."
1303
01:14:39,500 --> 01:14:42,460
# Ga... #
1304
01:14:42,460 --> 01:14:43,900
It's the phrasing.
1305
01:14:43,900 --> 01:14:47,020
# Ganador
1306
01:14:47,020 --> 01:14:49,140
# Ganador-r-r-r. #
1307
01:14:49,140 --> 01:14:50,660
Dorrr. Dorrr. Dorrr. Uh-huh.
1308
01:14:50,660 --> 01:14:53,220
Is it up on the roof of your mouth,
the back of your teeth, or...?
1309
01:14:53,220 --> 01:14:54,740
Dorrr. Dorrr.
1310
01:14:54,740 --> 01:14:57,980
When he asked me if I would sing
a harmony on his record,
1311
01:14:57,980 --> 01:14:59,780
I was completely delighted
1312
01:14:59,780 --> 01:15:02,260
because you can only learn by doing,
you know, I can't...
1313
01:15:03,500 --> 01:15:05,540
There isn't a book you can get, you
know, say,
1314
01:15:05,540 --> 01:15:07,540
"How do you learn how to be a singer
in Spanish?"
1315
01:15:07,540 --> 01:15:09,700
And it's always been a dream of mine
1316
01:15:09,700 --> 01:15:13,380
to make an album of these Mexican
songs that I learned from my father.
1317
01:15:13,380 --> 01:15:20,660
HE SINGS IN SPANISH
1318
01:15:20,660 --> 01:15:22,620
My father had a beautiful
baritone voice.
1319
01:15:22,620 --> 01:15:26,020
He sounded like a cross between
Pedro Infante and Frank Sinatra.
1320
01:15:27,660 --> 01:15:30,180
Always, you know, if there was
a dinner party or something,
1321
01:15:30,180 --> 01:15:32,500
he'd get the guitar out,
and then he'd just sing,
1322
01:15:32,500 --> 01:15:34,860
and I always would fall
asleep in somebody's lap,
1323
01:15:34,860 --> 01:15:37,100
listening to my dad sing
some beautiful song.
1324
01:15:40,060 --> 01:15:42,700
We always, as a family,
we always sang in Spanish.
1325
01:15:42,700 --> 01:15:45,900
Even though I didn't understand
much of what I was singing,
1326
01:15:45,900 --> 01:15:47,380
it was something that
I learned to do.
1327
01:15:47,380 --> 01:15:49,140
It's kind of like lip-reading,
you know?
1328
01:15:49,140 --> 01:15:52,020
I used to kind of chameleon
in harmony along with my father.
1329
01:15:52,020 --> 01:15:57,860
BOTH: # Asi prolongan el final... #
1330
01:15:57,860 --> 01:16:01,460
To learn to sing that style
as a grown-up, professional singer,
1331
01:16:01,460 --> 01:16:02,580
that took some doing.
1332
01:16:05,700 --> 01:16:10,740
# Su triste juego del amor
1333
01:16:12,820 --> 01:16:20,820
# Donde el silencio es ganador... #
1334
01:16:29,580 --> 01:16:32,060
Si. Vamos. I always forget the
beginning when I go through
1335
01:16:32,060 --> 01:16:35,460
the ending and it makes it so hard!
High five, high five. Oh, yeah.
1336
01:16:35,460 --> 01:16:38,220
Is it this way? Is that how you do
it? The Latin way?
1337
01:16:38,220 --> 01:16:40,860
OK, I've got it. Ya esta obligado.
1338
01:16:40,860 --> 01:16:42,700
OK, I'm learning all these
new things.
1339
01:16:42,700 --> 01:16:46,900
# La, la, la, la... #
1340
01:16:50,620 --> 01:16:53,460
My dad invited me to go to the
Tucson Mariachi Conference.
1341
01:16:53,460 --> 01:16:55,500
And that way I got to meet
the Mariachi Vargas.
1342
01:16:59,380 --> 01:17:02,340
Those good bands,
like the Cobre or the Camperos,
1343
01:17:02,340 --> 01:17:04,580
or the Mariachi Vargas, you're going
to go to a symphony
1344
01:17:04,580 --> 01:17:06,380
and you're not going to find
better musicians.
1345
01:17:06,380 --> 01:17:08,060
They're all virtuoso players.
1346
01:17:14,380 --> 01:17:16,900
I picked a couple of songs.
The band said,
1347
01:17:16,900 --> 01:17:20,660
"These songs are very traditional
and they're very difficult to do."
1348
01:17:21,740 --> 01:17:25,060
I said, "Well, that's the only songs
I know, so we'd better learn them."
1349
01:17:32,420 --> 01:17:34,260
I went to the
president of my record company,
1350
01:17:34,260 --> 01:17:35,780
who's a man who genuinely
likes music,
1351
01:17:35,780 --> 01:17:38,020
and I said, "Look, I've made all
these records for you,
1352
01:17:38,020 --> 01:17:40,660
"they've sold this. I'm going
to do this just for me, you know?
1353
01:17:40,660 --> 01:17:43,140
"And this might be self-indulgent.
If it sells two copies,
1354
01:17:43,140 --> 01:17:46,300
"I don't care, but if I can't record
this music, I'm going to die."
1355
01:17:46,300 --> 01:17:51,020
I don't understand any Spanish,
I didn't understand how popular
1356
01:17:51,020 --> 01:17:56,500
those songs were, but this is a lady
who wanted to do it her way,
1357
01:17:56,500 --> 01:17:59,060
and who was going to say no?
1358
01:17:59,060 --> 01:18:05,780
# Ay! que rechula es la fiesta
1359
01:18:05,780 --> 01:18:09,140
# La fiesta charra, fiesta del sol
1360
01:18:11,220 --> 01:18:17,660
# Donde los charros valientes
1361
01:18:17,660 --> 01:18:23,460
# Dan con su canto la evocacion
1362
01:18:23,460 --> 01:18:29,300
# El jaripeo es un festejo
1363
01:18:29,300 --> 01:18:31,620
# Que huele a zurco
y a tradicion... #
1364
01:18:31,620 --> 01:18:34,500
Canciones De Mi Padre,
it's the largest selling
1365
01:18:34,500 --> 01:18:37,460
Spanish language album
in the history of the industry.
1366
01:18:37,460 --> 01:18:41,580
That's the whole Linda Ronstadt
story right there in a nutshell -
1367
01:18:41,580 --> 01:18:44,180
Linda deciding
she wants to do something,
1368
01:18:44,180 --> 01:18:46,980
the record company telling her
she can't,
1369
01:18:46,980 --> 01:18:49,460
she goes ahead and does it anyway
1370
01:18:49,460 --> 01:18:53,420
and they jump on board as the thing
starts to take off.
1371
01:18:53,420 --> 01:18:55,460
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
1372
01:18:55,460 --> 01:18:57,740
Toda la familia would come,
and they loved it,
1373
01:18:57,740 --> 01:19:00,620
because they were here from Mexico,
1374
01:19:00,620 --> 01:19:03,380
even though their kids
had grown up here
1375
01:19:03,380 --> 01:19:05,460
and become American citizens.
1376
01:19:05,460 --> 01:19:08,420
"Who is this girl singing songs
so beautifully?"
1377
01:19:08,420 --> 01:19:15,100
# Ya comenzo el jaripeo
1378
01:19:15,100 --> 01:19:17,860
# La gente aplaude con emocion... #
1379
01:19:17,860 --> 01:19:19,660
The fact that she went on
and did that
1380
01:19:19,660 --> 01:19:21,740
and did it in such a big way,
1381
01:19:21,740 --> 01:19:24,020
that was a brave thing to do.
1382
01:19:24,020 --> 01:19:25,540
Many people would have been
terrified.
1383
01:19:25,540 --> 01:19:27,780
"I'll mess up my career," you know?
1384
01:19:27,780 --> 01:19:30,820
But obviously, she had purpose,
1385
01:19:30,820 --> 01:19:33,060
personal decision.
1386
01:19:33,060 --> 01:19:34,460
It's good.
1387
01:19:34,460 --> 01:19:41,700
# Que huele a zurco y a tradicion
1388
01:19:41,700 --> 01:19:43,620
# Remedo de la faena
1389
01:19:43,620 --> 01:19:45,980
# Mas admirada de mi nacion
1390
01:19:45,980 --> 01:19:49,500
# Bonito es el jaripeo
y cuanta su animacion
1391
01:19:49,500 --> 01:19:53,340
# Yo quiero montar un toro para
que mire mi amor
1392
01:19:53,340 --> 01:19:56,820
# Upa yupa yu!
Y upa!
1393
01:19:56,820 --> 01:20:00,420
# Yo quiero montar un toro pa'
que me mire mi amor
1394
01:20:00,420 --> 01:20:06,540
# Ay! Ay! Ay! #
1395
01:20:06,540 --> 01:20:10,340
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
1396
01:20:12,140 --> 01:20:15,220
To have that traditionalism
going along on the bus with me
1397
01:20:15,220 --> 01:20:17,540
from town to town, where I'd only
sung pop music,
1398
01:20:17,540 --> 01:20:20,020
to take that part of the dirt with
me, you know,
1399
01:20:20,020 --> 01:20:22,340
the part of the soil
of the land where I came from
1400
01:20:22,340 --> 01:20:25,660
to Cleveland and Cincinnati
and New York, that was a thrill.
1401
01:20:25,660 --> 01:20:27,820
You should have seen
Central Park with, you know,
1402
01:20:27,820 --> 01:20:29,740
close to a million people in it.
1403
01:20:29,740 --> 01:20:32,020
When the mariachi got up onstage
with their big hats,
1404
01:20:32,020 --> 01:20:34,060
the place fell out.
They went nuts, you know?
1405
01:20:34,060 --> 01:20:36,860
There was such a thing of pride
that went from the stage
1406
01:20:36,860 --> 01:20:38,700
to the audience, it was just great.
1407
01:20:40,700 --> 01:20:43,780
This song was written by me
and my father,
1408
01:20:43,780 --> 01:20:46,380
and it's called Lo Siento Mi Vida.
1409
01:20:46,380 --> 01:20:50,940
# Lo siento mi vida... #
1410
01:20:52,220 --> 01:20:55,860
My dad died when he was 84.
1411
01:20:55,860 --> 01:20:58,620
There was a kind of a peace
that happened when he died.
1412
01:21:00,780 --> 01:21:02,780
In the three or four days
before he died,
1413
01:21:02,780 --> 01:21:06,900
he was reading to us passages
from Gabriel Garcia Marquez's book
1414
01:21:06,900 --> 01:21:10,140
Love In The Time Of Cholera,
and it was just a great sharing.
1415
01:21:12,980 --> 01:21:16,060
It was a different experience being
with my father when he died,
1416
01:21:16,060 --> 01:21:17,380
than it was with my mother.
1417
01:21:18,860 --> 01:21:22,380
I knew I was going to miss him,
but I accepted it better.
1418
01:21:22,380 --> 01:21:32,460
# Siempre separar. #
1419
01:21:33,140 --> 01:21:36,340
He had what I would
describe as a beautiful death.
1420
01:21:40,700 --> 01:21:42,980
I'd seen her on TV,
and I thought she was great,
1421
01:21:42,980 --> 01:21:46,460
but when she came to New Orleans,
she was just...
1422
01:21:46,460 --> 01:21:48,340
Just so down-to-earth and, you know,
1423
01:21:48,340 --> 01:21:51,140
girl next door thing, you know?
1424
01:21:51,140 --> 01:21:53,140
And just humble.
1425
01:21:53,140 --> 01:21:55,780
She was just a sweet, humble person.
1426
01:21:57,420 --> 01:21:59,540
I'd been in New Orleans
for the World's Fair,
1427
01:21:59,540 --> 01:22:02,180
and somebody said, "Well,
The Neville Brothers are playing
1428
01:22:02,180 --> 01:22:04,300
"at some club down in the Quarter.
We should go."
1429
01:22:04,300 --> 01:22:06,780
We're going to get serious-serious
right now.
1430
01:22:06,780 --> 01:22:09,740
I'm going to turn you on
to our brother Aaron Neville.
1431
01:22:09,740 --> 01:22:12,740
Aaron Neville was onstage singing
this beautiful song, Arianne.
1432
01:22:12,740 --> 01:22:18,100
# Arianne is April morning
1433
01:22:18,100 --> 01:22:22,020
# That comes rippling
through my window
1434
01:22:22,020 --> 01:22:25,740
# She's the smell of coffee brewing
1435
01:22:25,740 --> 01:22:30,220
# On a quiet, rainy Sunday... #
1436
01:22:30,220 --> 01:22:32,020
Somebody told me
she was in the audience,
1437
01:22:32,020 --> 01:22:35,260
so I called her up onstage,
to sing a duet.
1438
01:22:36,260 --> 01:22:38,180
Usually, I'll never do
anything like that,
1439
01:22:38,180 --> 01:22:40,380
because I like to rehearse
everything first,
1440
01:22:40,380 --> 01:22:42,820
but I wasn't going to say no
to Aaron Neville.
1441
01:22:42,820 --> 01:22:45,060
After that,
I asked for her autograph.
1442
01:22:45,060 --> 01:22:46,740
She said, "To Aaron, love.
1443
01:22:46,740 --> 01:22:50,140
"I'll sing with you any time,
any place, anywhere, in any key."
1444
01:22:57,020 --> 01:22:58,700
# Look at this face... #
1445
01:22:58,700 --> 01:23:00,740
The next morning, I woke up
and my first thought was,
1446
01:23:00,740 --> 01:23:03,540
"Boy, I liked singing with Aaron
Neville. That sounded pretty good."
1447
01:23:03,540 --> 01:23:05,500
And then I thought, "You idiot,
everybody sounds good
1448
01:23:05,500 --> 01:23:07,140
"when they're singing with Aaron
Neville."
1449
01:23:07,140 --> 01:23:08,900
# I still don't know where
it's going... #
1450
01:23:08,900 --> 01:23:11,820
I said, "We've got to make a record
together." And he was up for it.
1451
01:23:11,820 --> 01:23:15,020
# I don't know much
1452
01:23:15,020 --> 01:23:18,860
BOTH: # But I know I love you
1453
01:23:21,100 --> 01:23:28,060
# And that may be
all I need to know... #
1454
01:23:28,060 --> 01:23:31,100
They had all kinds of rumours
going on on that one.
1455
01:23:32,140 --> 01:23:35,820
They said, "Oh, Linda and Aaron got
married," or whatever.
1456
01:23:35,820 --> 01:23:37,700
It was just crazy stuff.
1457
01:23:37,700 --> 01:23:40,420
# Look at these dreams
1458
01:23:40,420 --> 01:23:44,620
# So beat and so battered
1459
01:23:44,620 --> 01:23:46,660
# I don't know much... #
1460
01:23:46,660 --> 01:23:49,060
The producer told us,
"If you don't make it look real,
1461
01:23:49,060 --> 01:23:50,900
"ain't no sense in doing it,"
1462
01:23:50,900 --> 01:23:53,020
so, you know, we had to make it look
real.
1463
01:23:54,820 --> 01:24:03,340
# And that may be
all there is to know
1464
01:24:03,340 --> 01:24:05,420
# Who-o-oa. #
1465
01:24:05,420 --> 01:24:08,420
At the studio, I said,
1466
01:24:08,420 --> 01:24:10,220
"I'll see you at the Grammys."
1467
01:24:10,220 --> 01:24:13,980
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
1468
01:24:15,020 --> 01:24:18,340
I had a speech, but
I'm...I'm...I'm...
1469
01:24:18,340 --> 01:24:19,500
..too nervous.
1470
01:24:19,500 --> 01:24:22,020
I just want to say thank you
to Linda first.
1471
01:24:22,020 --> 01:24:23,260
LINDA WHISPERS
1472
01:24:23,260 --> 01:24:25,940
And my wife Joel.
LAUGHTER
1473
01:24:25,940 --> 01:24:30,180
Aaron and I won two
Grammys for that record.
1474
01:24:30,180 --> 01:24:32,820
But as time went on, there was
1475
01:24:32,820 --> 01:24:34,740
something really wrong
with my voice.
1476
01:24:37,460 --> 01:24:41,340
I just lost a lot of different
colours in my voice.
1477
01:24:41,340 --> 01:24:43,500
There's a lot of things you do
in singing,
1478
01:24:43,500 --> 01:24:47,300
you turn your voice to different
planes to make different sounds,
1479
01:24:47,300 --> 01:24:48,820
and I couldn't do any of that.
1480
01:24:52,380 --> 01:24:54,140
It turned out I had Parkinson's
disease.
1481
01:24:57,060 --> 01:24:59,220
Singing is really complex,
1482
01:24:59,220 --> 01:25:02,100
and I was made most aware of it
by having it vanish.
1483
01:25:03,660 --> 01:25:06,700
I could still sing in my mind,
but I can't do it physically.
1484
01:25:09,500 --> 01:25:13,700
I sang my last concert
on November 7th, 2009.
1485
01:25:13,700 --> 01:25:14,900
It was a Mexican show.
1486
01:25:16,940 --> 01:25:18,620
It must have been quite a...
1487
01:25:19,660 --> 01:25:23,660
Quite a reckoning, to have this
marvellous instrument
1488
01:25:23,660 --> 01:25:26,860
that could always hold the notes,
hit the notes and shape the notes,
1489
01:25:26,860 --> 01:25:29,820
could no longer hold the notes
without quaver.
1490
01:25:32,260 --> 01:25:36,620
But there's a lot of good records
with her magnificent voice on them,
1491
01:25:36,620 --> 01:25:38,820
and I hear her laughing in my head
1492
01:25:38,820 --> 01:25:41,940
all the time, I hear that cackle all
the time, so...
1493
01:25:41,940 --> 01:25:43,420
..I'm sort of never without her.
1494
01:25:46,660 --> 01:25:50,260
I can imagine that not being able
to sing, for Linda, is awful.
1495
01:25:51,380 --> 01:25:57,300
But I also know of nobody who could
handle that kind of change
1496
01:25:57,300 --> 01:26:00,580
or adjustment in a more logical
and thoughtful
1497
01:26:00,580 --> 01:26:02,260
and intelligent way than Linda.
1498
01:26:04,740 --> 01:26:07,340
I don't think she misses
going on the road.
1499
01:26:07,340 --> 01:26:09,340
I don't think
she misses making records.
1500
01:26:11,700 --> 01:26:14,060
I think she misses singing
with her friends,
1501
01:26:14,060 --> 01:26:17,380
and singing in the living room
with her family.
1502
01:26:19,940 --> 01:26:23,700
There's just no-one on the planet
that ever had or ever
1503
01:26:23,700 --> 01:26:25,500
will have a voice like Linda's.
1504
01:26:37,860 --> 01:26:39,860
You know, I'm grateful
for the time I had.
1505
01:26:39,860 --> 01:26:43,620
I got to live a lot of my dreams
and I feel lucky about it.
1506
01:26:46,100 --> 01:26:47,900
Another person with Parkinson's said
1507
01:26:47,900 --> 01:26:50,940
that life after death isn't
the question.
1508
01:26:52,220 --> 01:26:53,620
It's life before death.
1509
01:26:56,820 --> 01:26:58,740
So how are you going to do it?
1510
01:26:58,740 --> 01:27:00,580
How are you going to live?
1511
01:27:29,900 --> 01:27:32,620
THEY SING IN SPANISH:
1512
01:27:54,460 --> 01:27:56,140
Hang on...
1513
01:27:57,340 --> 01:27:59,180
Got to find a part, there.
1514
01:27:59,180 --> 01:28:00,860
Um, start right there?
1515
01:28:06,020 --> 01:28:07,620
HER VOICE QUAVERS
1516
01:28:09,140 --> 01:28:12,580
I don't even have that
note in my speaking range any more.
1517
01:28:12,580 --> 01:28:16,180
You said before...
You said you couldn't sing any more.
1518
01:28:16,180 --> 01:28:18,500
This isn't really singing.
1519
01:28:18,500 --> 01:28:20,740
Believe me, it's a few notes,
sketched in,
1520
01:28:20,740 --> 01:28:22,540
but it's not really singing.
1521
01:28:22,540 --> 01:28:24,140
Are you enjoying it?
1522
01:28:24,140 --> 01:28:26,500
Well, I would enjoy it much more
if I could sing,
1523
01:28:26,500 --> 01:28:28,540
but I can't let them sing this
without me.
1524
01:28:28,540 --> 01:28:30,620
It's a family thing.
1525
01:28:30,620 --> 01:28:32,340
Shall we? Yeah. Are you guys ready?
1526
01:29:49,340 --> 01:29:50,980
LINDA CHUCKLES
1527
01:29:50,980 --> 01:29:55,180
Do we get to eat? Yeah. Yes.
Oh, good.
1528
01:29:55,180 --> 01:29:57,940
# I've been cheated
1529
01:29:57,940 --> 01:30:01,500
# Been mistreated
1530
01:30:01,500 --> 01:30:07,420
ALL: # When will I be loved?
1531
01:30:09,140 --> 01:30:12,540
# I've been put down
1532
01:30:12,540 --> 01:30:16,140
# I've been pushed round
1533
01:30:16,140 --> 01:30:21,460
# When will I be loved?
1534
01:30:23,180 --> 01:30:26,740
# When I find a new man
1535
01:30:26,740 --> 01:30:29,460
# That I want for mine
1536
01:30:29,460 --> 01:30:33,300
# He always breaks my heart in two
1537
01:30:33,300 --> 01:30:39,140
# It happens every time
1538
01:30:39,140 --> 01:30:42,620
# I've been made blue
1539
01:30:42,620 --> 01:30:46,620
# I've been lied to
1540
01:30:46,620 --> 01:30:51,860
# When will I be loved?
1541
01:31:07,500 --> 01:31:10,980
# When I find a new man
1542
01:31:10,980 --> 01:31:14,260
# That I want for mine
1543
01:31:14,260 --> 01:31:17,660
# He always breaks my heart in two
1544
01:31:17,660 --> 01:31:23,660
# It happens every time, oh
1545
01:31:23,660 --> 01:31:26,940
# I've been cheated
1546
01:31:26,940 --> 01:31:30,500
# Been mistreated
1547
01:31:30,500 --> 01:31:36,260
# When will I be loved?
1548
01:31:37,980 --> 01:31:42,900
# When will I be loved?
1549
01:31:42,900 --> 01:31:45,020
# Tell me
1550
01:31:45,020 --> 01:31:55,100
# When will I be loved? #
1551
01:31:58,340 --> 01:32:05,220
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
1552
01:32:05,220 --> 01:32:11,900
MUSIC: Still Within The Sound
Of My Voice by Linda Ronstadt
1553
01:32:11,900 --> 01:32:16,740
# Where have you gone, my darling
one?
1554
01:32:16,740 --> 01:32:20,020
# Are you on your own?
1555
01:32:20,020 --> 01:32:23,140
# Are you having fun?
1556
01:32:23,140 --> 01:32:29,260
# Is there someone to hold when you
need it bad?
1557
01:32:29,260 --> 01:32:38,620
# Is it uncontrolled like the love
we had?
1558
01:32:38,620 --> 01:32:44,220
# Does a day go by like a memory?
1559
01:32:44,220 --> 01:32:50,380
# Do you ever try to remember me
1560
01:32:50,380 --> 01:32:56,500
# In an automobile or a crowded bar?
1561
01:32:56,500 --> 01:33:05,220
# Well, I hope you're all right,
wherever you are
1562
01:33:05,220 --> 01:33:14,620
# And if you're still within the
sound of my voice over some radio
1563
01:33:14,620 --> 01:33:22,300
# I just want you to know you were
always my only choice
1564
01:33:24,220 --> 01:33:30,260
# And wherever you go,
that I still love you so
1565
01:33:30,260 --> 01:33:34,940
# If you're still within the sound
of my voice... #
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