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You’re hurting me.

You’re hurting me.
You’re hurting me.

- I can’t tell you.
- What’s the matter?

This time, Janet was
thrown right out of the room,

onto the stairs.

I saw you banging
on the floor, Janet.

I didn’t bang.

I saw you bang.

Janet. Can you hear me, Janet?

Janet, can you hear me?

One time when we s...

Why didn’t you spit
the water out until I told you?

No, I don’t want you to
do anything until I tell you.

Janet. Janet. Janet.

Janet. Can you hear me?
Janet? Can you hear me, Janet?

All right, Janet.
Well done. All right, now, Janet.

There’s a good girl.

There’s a good girl. All right.

I blamed myself a lot.

The fact that I went into care alone
and Margaret and Bill were still there.

It was my fault because
I was the epicenter.

Why me?

Why did it happen to
me, our family? Why?

I’ve never actually done that
many interviews or documentaries.

And I was always very
dubious about doing any of them

’cause it does bring
it all back again,

and there’s all the emotions
that I’ve tried to escape all my life.

Yeah, I remember that one.

- The look of terror on Mum’s face.
- Yeah, I remember.

- That one.
- Yeah.

When I was pulled out of bed.

And that distressed
me to see you like that.

That distressed me terrible.

Yeah, I remember being...
Being turned off the settee.

Tipped upside down.

- It-It just turned over.
- And... - Yeah.

And she’d run off it, and
then it’d be over on the...

Tip up on the floor.

Does feel strange though.
Like going back in time.

Really does. All
those years ago.

Looking back now,

something could come
into our lives, into our house.

Could it have been something
that drew energy from me?

June, 1978.

Janet has now spent six weeks

in a home run by nuns.

We are redoubling
our efforts to help her,

but none of the
doctors, psychiatrists,

or psychologists who have
witnessed her altered states

can agree on their diagnosis.

The psychiatrist consulted
by the local doctor

suggested we simply go
away and leave the family alone.

Maurice was a
very compassionate man.

And there’s no doubt that
he cared about the family.

That’s important because,
as a psychical researcher,

you probably want the phenomena
to go on as long as possible.

You know, this doesn’t often
happen, so you’re quite keen to...

To sort of get evidence
for this. On the other hand,

as a human being, you’re dealing...
You-you realize you’re dealing

with people who are going
through a very traumatic state.

And... And so, from that point of
view, you want the phenomena to stop.

I was having
these bad nightmares.

Nights used to be so long.

When I look back now, I
don’t know how I stayed sane.

I just wanted to run away.

I do remember
being concerned about Janet.

Just mentally
and physically, emotionally.

To be screaming, hysterical,

to have that amount of
tension, she needed help.

July the 26th, 1978.

We have finally got Janet
admitted to the Maudsley Hospital

under the care of
Dr. Peter Fenwick,

head of the
neurological department.

Guy Playfair said to me,

"We’ve got this fascinating
phenomena going on at Enfield.

A poltergeist.

The girl, Janet, goes into
strange, contorted positions.

And do you think that
she has epilepsy?"

And so, I originally thought,

"Well, poltergeists
and epilepsy?

Doubt it.

But it’s certainly
worth looking at Janet."

I thought I was going home.

So, I was very surprised to
be going to stay in a hospital.

Remember, it’s 47 years ago,

but I do have Janet’s
permission to talk about her,

on... on camera.

I’m a neuropsychiatrist, which
means "neuro" understand the brain...

- "psychiatrist"... understand behavior.
- If you looking at this...

People who had disorders of
behavior used to be referred to me.

I was also interested
in consciousness.

And so, my interests were wider

than just simple
reductionist science.

What I was wanting to know is

whether you could
separate poltergeist effects,

epilepsy, and behavioral
changes in the person.

We ran a whole lot of tests
on her to see, particularly,

if there was an organic
basis for her behavior.

They wanted to see
what was going on in me brain.

When you’re that young,
you know, you think,

"Psychiatry, what does that
really mean?" You know?

People think, "It’s madness.

They’ve gone into there
because they’re mad."

But there’s different reasons.

Is it something in the
body? Or is it in the brain?

Or is it something that’s
happened from the past?

All of the physical
tests we did were normal.

And so we then wondered
about the behavioral component.

What I did know
about poltergeists

at this time was that
they tended to occur,

usually, where there was a
very high tension in the family.

I haven’t really listened
to the tapes up until now.

But it’s like I’m meant to go back
’cause it’s gonna teach me something.

Why do
you think it’s chosen you?

Why do you think
it’s happening to you?

Well, I can’t
directly answer that,

Looking back now,

there was a lot of stress
and tension in the family.

The upset of Johnny
going away to school.

Mum and Dad had divorced.

I remember before I was ten,

my parents would
regularly have rows.

And one day, I don’t
know what my mum done...

She went to open the front
door, and he shut her arm in it.

I remember this very well.

And I remember things
getting a bit overheated,

and they were arguing
and shouting at each other.

And I remember, my
father sat me down,

and he said to me, um, "I won’t
be living here anymore, you know.

We’re getting
divorced, Mum and I."

Our lives changed then.

And then I don’t remember
much more childhood.

It did really affect me.

I mean, my dad he...
He was hotheaded.

He had no patience.

But then I cried when he left.

It was like there
was an absence.

Something was missing.

Did hit me hard,
actually. It did. Yeah.

That’s what I’m saying, right?

You go in the
small bed, Margaret.

Trust you to say that.

There is a great
deal of emotional stress

- in the family.
- Come back from...

the
shops this afternoon.

But how is stress capable

of physically affecting
its surroundings?

How does all that
fit into the picture?

The chair, which
was standing by Janet’s bed.

Mum, he’s tricking me.

Christ! It’s the ghost!

And there was a chest of
drawers moving towards the door.

Bash the window!

What’s happened?

Now the chair gone over.

It just tipped
over the settee in front of us.

I’ve never used to
like going upstairs on me own.

It was like there
was something there.

It was a feeling like
it was behind me.

Now,
tell me, what are you doing here,

and why are you here?

Shall
I tell you really who I am?

Really?

Some people
have to see it to believe it.

But once you’ve experienced
it, you know that it’s real.

27th, 1978, in the
Maudsley Hospital.

Well, Janet, um, come over here

and stick your mouth
near the microphone

- so we can hear you.
- Yeah.

That’s all right.

You’re saying when
you’re on your own,

you’re not... you’re not, um...

Really?

Does it?

I mean...

- You’d like to sleep on your own from now on?
- Yeah.

- What, on your own, without anybody?
- Yeah.

I’ve got a radio.

- What, on your own, without anybody?
- Yeah.

Strange, sort of,
listening to me at that age.

I seem quite
determined. I think, "Wow.

Really? Was this me?"

Think you’ll forget all
about your dad soon?

You know, when you grow up and...

You’ll have lots of
boyfriends before long.

You won’t remember him.

But... But we gotta stop this
damn thing, you know, now.

- It’s not doing you any good.
- I know. That’s what Mum said.

You know, you’re
gonna be quite famous one day.

There’s no
doubt about Janet’s relief

in getting away from the family.

She immediately relaxed and
became really a quite different girl

after she’d been
with us for a bit.

We had her in
there for six weeks,

and we found...
a not-unusual teenager.

Mrs. Hodgson is
talking about, her interview...

with Dr. Fenwick.

- He asked you how Janet was.
- Yeah.

Just tell me that
again, will you?

And I turned round, and I said,

Janet has been a lot better

since she’s been away from
the house, which she has,

- and she looked a lot better.
- Yeah.

You know what
she’s talking about.

She looked very
cowed before she left.

Very cowed. She said
it’s completely gone.

Yeah. Well, I also said to
him... I-I-I must bear in mind,

and I must admit that
Janet is a moody child.

- And she’s a very restless child.
- Yeah.

But I’ll tell
you what I think...

And I’m gonna be
quite honest about it...

She’s my daughter, and
I miss her very much,

but I don’t think she
should come back here.

With me, like, I was
the black sheep, you know?

She didn’t really want
me ’cause I was trouble.

I was part of the
problem while it was happening.

When I came out the Maudsley, I
was picked up by the social worker.

And he was taking me
around children’s homes,

trying to find another
children’s home for me.

He couldn’t find one.
They were all full.

Okay...

And in the end,
he took me back to Mum.

And Mum’s face,

I could tell she didn’t
really want me home.

I think she was fearful that it
would all really start up badly again

because I was back there.

This is the...

In this program,
we’re going to explore an area

where our common sense notions
aren’t going to be much help to us at all.

How does the uncertainty
principle square up

with the everyday world?

When I got
home, I just needed peace

and... to... just
to be left alone, really.

Clear off. Get out.
We’ve had enough.

We’ve had enough of you.
Go back where you came from.

I would like, for one
moment, to contemplate the word "truth."

Where does the truth lie?

Only in the everyday
decipherings of our five senses?

Or might it rest in the depths
of an unknown dimension...

beyond our understanding?

Hello, Mr. Grosse.

It’s Sunday, October
the 8th, 1978.

And I’m just going to
make a copy for you...

For your private collection...

Of the tape I made with Peter
Liefhebber and Dono Gmelig-Meyling.

I thought this most remarkable story
needed to be got down on tape at once,

so I went round and I
made the tape which follows.

I won’t comment on it yet until
you’ve had time to think it over.

I think you’ll find these
coincidences quite interesting.

You’ll notice that I didn’t offer any
information concerning you personally.

Before the investigation,

my father had suffered
a huge emotional loss.

And Guy... because
he was a spiritualist,

because he believed
in those things...

Couldn’t get out of his
mind a potential connection.

All right. I’ll start
the copy now.

Friday, October the 6th, 1978.

Belgravia Hotel, to
see Peter Liefhebber.

- Right. Here we are in the hotel, Peter.
- Yes.

Um, well, I wonder,

could you tell me roughly
what you told me on the phone?

Um, what exactly happened?

Yes.

And he didn’t say that
about me, for instance?

No. No, no.

Well, I didn’t...

Yes.

My sister was a character.

My sister lived
life to the full.

She was Janet Esther Grosse,
and she was 22 years old.

She was 22 years
old. N... No age at all.

My sister was killed in
a motorcycle accident in Cardiff.

And it happened on my birthday.

I received a visit from the
police, I think, 2:30 in the morning,

telling me that I should
go to Cardiff Royal Infirmary

because that’s where she was.

Janet was lying
on the hospital bed

with her head wrapped in
bandages, and two black eyes.

She’d suffered, um, a
major trauma to her head.

And we all sat there.
And it was a tragic day.

And we eventually
switched the machine off,

and my sister passed away.

And around that awful event

were some extraordinary
things that happened.

Call them coincidence, call them
f... fate, call them whatever you like.

The afternoon before, when
my sister had her accident,

my mother was on the beach.

And at that time, 4:20 in the
afternoon, she felt seriously ill,

so ill that my father wanted to
call a... an ambulance to the beach.

A clock that had always worked
stopped at the precise time, 4:20.

It was the summer of
1976 when it didn’t rain for months,

and there was a
huge water shortage.

And underneath my sister’s
bedroom window is the roof

of the extension to the kitchen.

That roof was soaking wet.

No other roofs anywhere
around were wet. Just that roof.

But I think the
most extraordinary event

happened to me.

After my sister died, on
the way back, on the train,

I realized that my sister
would’ve sent me a birthday card.

And that birthday card
would almost certainly

be on the mat at
home when I got in.

Janet’s birthday card to
Richard, August the 5th, 1976.

I was absolutely
amazed by what I saw.

On the front was a person with
a head wrapped in bandages,

two black eyes,
in a hospital gown.

"I was going to buy you a bottle
of toilet water for your birthday...

but the lid fell on my
head. Happy birthday."

A strange, strange
wording for a card.

But what was even stranger
was that my sister had written

in her own hand an arrow
pointing to the word "head."

And it went down, and it said,

"And there won’t be much left
of that soon anyway. Love, Jan."

How could she have...
known, but without knowing?

H... How could... How could
something like this happen?

It’s...

It’s too unreal.

All these phenomena,

and the fact that they all
happened at the same time,

made us feel that there
was something going on.

Janet. Janet.

Poltergeist.

Something
that we couldn’t explain.

Are you listening, Janet?

P-O-L-T-E-R-G-E-I-S-T.

Poltergeist.

It changed him completely.

Lo-Losing a child...

Time helps, but,
you never get over it.

Happens.

I often wonder what would
have happened had she lived,

how different our lives...

Would have been. Your life
would have been quite different.

You realize that, don’t you?

My life would have
been quite different

because it was the
extraordinary things

that happened when she...

Around about the time she
died. Extraordinary psychic thing...

What I consider to be
psychic, and so did you...

That happened, that, sort of

launched me onto this
determination to try and find out more

about what happens
when you... you die,

and what psychic
research is all about.

If you think of coincidence,

then how extraordinary not
only is that set of circumstances...

But my father goes to the
Society and says, "I’d like a case,"

and the very first case that comes
along turns out to be arguably

the most important case in
the history of paranormal activity.

Did you... Did
you die in this house?

Did you pass on? You
did pass on in this house?

Now why are you
here? Are you unhappy?

Now, I often wonder,
you know, strange it may seem,

it could be coincidence.

It may not have been that
his daughter’s name was Janet.

But I think he felt
that, at the time...

Like he was put in touch
with us for a reason.

You did pass on in this house?

Now why are you
here? Are you unhappy?

Christ! It’s
the ghost! It’s the ghost!

Janet. Can
you hear me, Janet?

Because he’d lost his daughter,
you could argue that, you know,

he had a... a
motive...

a-an incentive to
try and find evidence.

But the question of
coincidences or synchronicity,

this domain of
experience is fundamental.

If you yourself have
had an experience,

that is what’s going to make you
take this phenomena seriously.

Certainly, for me, I’ve
had experiences which...

Which have, you know,
made me feel...

these phenomena are g...

Some of these
phenomena are genuine.

The whole point about psychical
research is it does suggest

that consciousness can
actually directly interact

with the physical world.

Because I had
this interest in consciousness,

obviously things like telepathy,
psychokinesis and so on

were phenomena which
I was also interested in.

I began to see consciousness
as a much wider phenomenon,

not just generated in the brain.

I think the brain is in a field,

and I think brain fields
interact with each other.

The way that I might look at
the Enfield poltergeist would be

that you have a highly
disturbed adolescent.

They’ve got this wonderful
machine which is called their brain,

and it can interact with
the field of consciousness.

And if it does that, then
these things can arise.

You can, by an
intention, change things.

The physical world
is just a sort of, you know...

It’s like a
four-dimensional slice,

in my perspective, of this... of
this higher-dimensional reality.

And this higher-dimensional
reality is, if you like...

That’s the world of... of mind.

The... The truth is, if psychic
phenomena were real,

it would be so important
that we need to be sure.

I got into psychic research
through an experience of my own,

a dramatic out-of-the-body-
turned-mystical experience

that I couldn’t
understand at all.

This was when I was a first-year
student at Oxford in 1970.

I became so committed
to the idea that my spirit

or astral body had
left that I thought,

"Well, I don’t want to carry on with
what would’ve been a sensible career

in psychology and physiology,"
which is what I was doing,

"I want to prove to the world that
there are psychic phenomena."

I started doing a lot of
experiments on telepathy,

clairvoyance,
precognition and so on.

According to one theory,

PK powers fade with
age and should therefore

be strongest in babies.

The computer will play a nice
tune and show a smiling face,

which Emily enjoys
looking at, um,

according to the output of
the random number generator.

And what happens is, if she’s
using her PK successfully,

it will play more often.

To begin with,
I got some significant results

- that you wouldn’t expect by chance.
- Bye.

But then,
over four to five years,

the experimental work that I did

led me to be...
ever and ever more doubtful.

And I became more
and more worried.

"Well, how am I ever
going to find these things?"

"Well, if that doesn’t
work, there’s always this.

And if this doesn’t
work, then there’s this.

There’s always
another door to open.

There’s always
another corner to turn."

That was the feeling.

Until one day,

this thought came over
me: What if none of it is true?

The whole point
about psychical research

is that you should be skeptical.

I mean, not disbelieving,

but you should
start off always trying

to find a natural explanation.

That’s true of
science in general.

You should be skeptical in the
sense that you’re always open.

The Enfield case is without doubt
one of the most evidential cases

in the sense that we’ve
got all these recordings.

Inevitably, any so-called
"spontaneous" case is chaotic,

and it is hard to come
by any definite conclusion.

There is, as regards Enfield, a
considerable amount of testimony.

You see things that
you can’t explain,

you’ve got a tendency
not to believe them.

You’ve got a tendency to
say, "I didn’t really see ’em."

But you know you did.

And there was a chest of
drawers moving towards the door.

And there was banging.

Banging on the side of
the walls, and on the ceiling.

On the floor.

Some of this testimony
is quite impressive and reassuring,

but there is no real evidence.

My view is that, unfortunately,

much of the case withers
away on closer inspection.

There was a... an ordinary kitchen
chair moved across the room.

Small armchair, and it jumped, was it,
about four or five inches from the settee?

And the policewoman saw it.

It, um, came off the floor,
nearly a half inch, I should say.

It moved
approximately three to four feet

and then came to rest.

Moved about, well,
I expect 18 inches,

something like that.
Just a short way.

Our brain’s main
thing they’re doing all the time

is recognizing patterns.

The more we understand
about the brain,

the less room there is for
belief in paranormal phenomena.

Human bodies are machines, but
somehow we want to be more than that.

People want to believe
there’s more than this world.

But as I entered the front room,

something... I think
it was a LEGO brick...

Came from behind
me very low down

and very fast and hit
the wall in front of me.

- I went straight toward...
- Looking back on it now...

- and stood with my back to it...
- my own impression

is that, you know,
there’s so many accounts,

so many witnesses.

One can’t just dismiss all those
and say it was all fraud or imagination.

What’s so f-frustrating
is we still don’t know.

Not just in the Enfield case,

it applies to almost everything
in psychical research.

But that’s precisely
what makes psych...

the
subject so tantalizing.

How would you distinguish between
what is nonsense and what is...

What is true?

It has been said many times

by skeptics and critics
of psychic research

that my interest in the
subject was motivated by grief.

And that this grief
distorted my sense of reality.

Their conclusions
are entirely mistaken.

The Enfield case proved to my
satisfaction and beyond a shadow of doubt,

that the realities of life and death
are not what they appear to be.

Bill, I want you to tell me

whether you remember what
happened to you when you died.

Just before you died
and just after you died.

Bill, who was
the voice... this is the ghost...

He described how he died.

Days before I died...

I went blind.

I had an hemorrhage,
and I fell asleep...

and I died in a chair.

In a corner downstairs.

Some years later, my
father received a telephone call.

And it was from a man
who said he knew the voice.

- Hello.
- Hello, Maurice. Nice to meet you again.

- Nice seeing you again.
- Come in.

This chap identified himself

as the son of
William Wilkins... Bill.

Bill, I want you to tell me

whether you remember what
happened to you when you died.

Just before you died
and just after you died.

Days before
I died, I went blind.

Then I had an hemorrhage,
and I fell asleep,

and I died in a chair
in a corner downstairs.

- Is... That’s... That’s right?
- That’s exactly true.

- That is exactly true, yes.
- Exactly as he did.

And we’re... Of
course, at that time,

we certainly didn’t
know how he died.

The only thing we knew at that time...

- Was that your father had gone blind.
- Yeah.

- We didn’t know anything else.
- No, no.

- Bu-But it describes exactly how he died.
- That’s exactly what happened.

He died in the chair,
down in the living room.

My mum popped out
to the shop for ten minutes.

When she came back, he was dead.

Incredible.

That’s exact... -
And here we are...

another confirmation.

Very interesting.

Se-See, the sort of things
like knocking on the wall.

The three knocks, always
three knocks on the wall.

It was just a strange
knock on the wall.

During the war they-they
were air raid wardens together.

And, if ever
the sirens went off,

one would knock
to the other one.

And then they’d
meet out the back,

"Are you ready, Fred?" "Yeah."

"Okay, see you
outside in a moment."

And then they’d go off. That’s
how they used to communicate.

Rather than go
knocking on the door,

there’d be three taps on
the wall every time.

Amazing.

"Spoon bent
at breakfast by Janet."

These are things.
These are just objects.

And without context,
they don’t mean anything.

Except it represents,
you know, this...

Such an important
part of my father’s life,

and the time and
effort that went into it.

For me, the whole
experience tells me

that there are things above
and beyond our senses.

When someone
tells me their story...

And so many people have stories

of things that have happened to them...
I don’t dismiss them anymore. I listen.

- Rolling?
- Yeah. Do I need a seat belt?

- It doesn’t need a seat belt.
- No?

The last 29 years of his life,

he was a paranormal
investigator,

which I know he enjoyed probably
more than any other time in his life.

We went to "intraview" Britain’s
leading expert on ghosts. Check it.

I is here with Britain’s number one
parapsychologist, Maurice Grosse.

And we is here, actually in a
haunted house, and I is well scared.

I’s bricking it.

How long has this
house been haunted?

This house? Aye.

This... No. You...

We got it all wrong. This
is not a haunted house.

This... - This is my
house...

You investigate things.

Now, one of the...
The most difficult things

that you ever did was
the Enfield poltergeist.

What things did you see?

- Well, things flying about.
We had... - What things?

Big furniture, small furniture.

In fact, the settee
turned upside down

and flew across the room right in
front of me as I walked into the room.

- Had you been drinking?
- No.

Too funny.

- Hello, Uri.
- Hello, Maurice.

- How are you? Nice to see you.
- Hi, how are you?

- Lovely to see you.
- You’re filming?

- Yes.
- Come on in.

- Ready?
- Yes.

- Ta-da-da-da.
- My God.

Goodness me.

5,000 bent
spoons and forks on it.

Many of them were bent
with my abilities, my powers.

Heavens.

See, it brought
a smile on your face.

I’ll say. I’ll say.

Whatever we know
about life, about the world,

um, we still haven’t cracked it.

Here we go.

There’s still things that
we... we probably won’t ever find out.

Dad tried to find out.

He was a lovely... He was a
lovely dad. He was a lovely dad.

And though the case was
over, he used to come once a month.

This evening should be
very interesting indeed.

I’m going to see
Margaret and her mother,

of the Enfield poltergeist
case, now nearly 18 years ago.

He’d have, um, boxes
of Maltesers for us each.

Well, here I am at this,
famous house, in Enfield.

And, here you see

Margaret and her mother.

He’d talk to my mum.
She would make him a cup of tea,

and he would ask how she’s
been and how we all are.

You remember
the day I first came?

- Yes, I remember, Mr. Grosse.
- Yeah, we do remember that, Mr. Grosse.

- And you was on the case ever since then.
- Yeah.

You know, it wasn’t like,

"Now the poltergeist
is finished,

I’m just not gonna come."

He made the effort,

and he continued to be
like a family friend as well.

I used to go back
regularly just to look at that house.

About two years ago, we went in
the car, and my husband drove us.

We got the feeling no
one was really in there.

We just had a look, and then all
this flashing started in the living room.

All the lights started going
on and off, flashing on and off.

I felt like maybe something
had recognized me.

I don’t wanna go back there now.

I don’t wanna go back there.

I was glad to get out of
there. I left home as soon as I could.

Where is she?

It’s something that
n-not many people experience.

And I’ve had to get strong

from a pretty early
age and build on that.

Try-Try and explain to me...

I was in bed, right...

It used to upset me when
they used to say, "She’s faking it."

Like
this. Like this.

I know what I experienced,
and I know that it was real.

Yeah.

It had such a
devastating effect on me.

I’ve never really
said this to anyone,

but you never really
feel completely yourself.

What is "myself," you know?

It’s something you never forget.

Something that
you’ll just think of,

and it’ll just come
flowing back, you know?

You never feel
like you’re free of it.

I don’t like to say this, you
know, but I feel it even now.

It’s never left me.

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