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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:12,838 --> 00:00:14,623 [interviewer 1] Patrick Carney, take 1. 2 00:00:16,842 --> 00:00:18,322 All right, first question. 3 00:00:18,888 --> 00:00:21,325 So, how would you describe Gil Mantera's Party Dream? 4 00:00:23,762 --> 00:00:25,025 Uh... 5 00:00:25,590 --> 00:00:28,028 Every time I try to explain this band to somebody, 6 00:00:28,158 --> 00:00:30,247 like, it's kind-- it's really hard. 7 00:00:30,378 --> 00:00:32,423 They're, like, a comedy group that then started making 8 00:00:32,554 --> 00:00:35,035 really weird synth-pop with songs 9 00:00:35,165 --> 00:00:37,341 about, like, buffalo tears. 10 00:00:37,472 --> 00:00:38,777 I-- I think they're the most famous rock band 11 00:00:38,908 --> 00:00:40,388 you've never heard of. 12 00:00:40,518 --> 00:00:42,172 They could do stuff that, if anyone else did it, 13 00:00:42,303 --> 00:00:44,044 it would've fucking sucked. 14 00:00:44,653 --> 00:00:46,133 But when they did it, it was awesome. 15 00:00:46,263 --> 00:00:48,004 [Patrick] A few of their shows were some 16 00:00:48,135 --> 00:00:49,962 of the funniest things I've ever seen happen in person. 17 00:00:50,093 --> 00:00:51,747 It was all pretty genius. 18 00:00:51,877 --> 00:00:54,924 Their show is basically illegal in-- in most states. 19 00:00:55,055 --> 00:00:56,752 It was just a spectacle, you know? 20 00:00:56,882 --> 00:00:59,146 Immediately you go home and, like, told all my friends, 21 00:00:59,276 --> 00:01:01,974 like, "You guys gotta see this band, they're so weird". 22 00:01:02,105 --> 00:01:03,715 It's the funniest shit that I had ever seen. 23 00:01:03,846 --> 00:01:05,630 It would always end in a disaster. 24 00:01:05,761 --> 00:01:07,545 Fake fighting that turned into real fighting. 25 00:01:07,676 --> 00:01:09,417 Then they would-- you know, they would get into real fights 26 00:01:09,547 --> 00:01:11,680 on stage and they would be naked 27 00:01:11,810 --> 00:01:13,073 throwing beer at each other. 28 00:01:13,682 --> 00:01:14,857 Fucking insane. 29 00:01:15,553 --> 00:01:19,296 Who are you and what the fuck do you want from us? 30 00:01:19,427 --> 00:01:20,950 [interviewer 1] Hey, I'm just a regular guy 31 00:01:21,081 --> 00:01:23,692 and I'm looking for a good everyman's band 32 00:01:23,822 --> 00:01:25,041 that's not weird. 33 00:01:25,172 --> 00:01:26,738 Well, we are the everyman's band, 34 00:01:26,869 --> 00:01:28,218 we're the people's band, you know-- 35 00:01:28,349 --> 00:01:29,654 We're the people's choice. 36 00:01:29,785 --> 00:01:31,787 The Rock has the people's elbow and eyebrow 37 00:01:31,917 --> 00:01:33,745 and stuff; we are the people's band. 38 00:01:35,138 --> 00:01:36,487 [interviewer 1] Oh, wait, who are-- who are you, 39 00:01:36,618 --> 00:01:37,880 and why should I care? 40 00:01:40,404 --> 00:01:42,667 [static] 41 00:01:43,929 --> 00:01:45,453 [eight-bit music playing] 42 00:01:45,583 --> 00:01:47,063 [Richie] Good evening, we are Gil Mantera's 43 00:01:47,194 --> 00:01:48,673 motherfucking Party Dream. 44 00:01:48,804 --> 00:01:52,155 [audience cheering] 45 00:01:52,286 --> 00:01:54,114 [Richie] You're probably gonna learn in, like, 46 00:01:54,244 --> 00:01:56,159 a little bit that you should be clapping and hooting 47 00:01:56,290 --> 00:01:57,813 and hollering a lot better than that bullshit. 48 00:01:57,943 --> 00:01:59,249 -That was fuckin' weak. -[audience member] Yeah! 49 00:01:59,380 --> 00:02:00,642 [Richie] Let me start this shit over. 50 00:02:03,645 --> 00:02:05,734 Good evening, we are Gil Mantera's 51 00:02:05,864 --> 00:02:08,040 motherfucking Party Dream! 52 00:02:08,171 --> 00:02:11,131 [audience cheering loudly] 53 00:02:11,261 --> 00:02:12,610 ♪ This thing you take from me ♪ 54 00:02:12,741 --> 00:02:14,786 ♪ A lifetime to understand ♪ 55 00:02:14,917 --> 00:02:16,223 ♪ How real it feels ♪ 56 00:02:16,353 --> 00:02:18,399 ♪ To go to hell without a plan ♪ 57 00:02:18,529 --> 00:02:19,922 ♪ Into the wild side ♪ 58 00:02:20,052 --> 00:02:21,532 ♪ That's got a hold on me ♪ 59 00:02:21,663 --> 00:02:24,274 ♪ Almost the brainchild of my insanity ♪ 60 00:02:24,405 --> 00:02:26,276 ♪ Yeah ♪ 61 00:02:26,407 --> 00:02:27,843 [distorted eight-bit singing] ♪ Oh, how I love you ♪ 62 00:02:27,973 --> 00:02:29,758 ♪ I don't know why ♪ 63 00:02:29,888 --> 00:02:31,542 ♪ Don't know why I love you ♪ 64 00:02:31,673 --> 00:02:32,935 ♪ I don't know why ♪ 65 00:02:33,065 --> 00:02:34,937 ♪ Don't know why I love you ♪ 66 00:02:35,067 --> 00:02:36,504 ♪ I don't know why ♪ 67 00:02:36,634 --> 00:02:38,158 ♪ I don't know why I love you ♪ 68 00:02:38,288 --> 00:02:39,637 ♪ I just don't know ♪ 69 00:02:39,768 --> 00:02:41,857 ♪ Don't know why I love you ♪ 70 00:02:41,987 --> 00:02:43,554 ♪ I don't know why ♪ 71 00:02:43,685 --> 00:02:45,295 ♪ I don't know why I love you ♪ 72 00:02:45,426 --> 00:02:46,992 ♪ I never know why ♪ 73 00:02:47,123 --> 00:02:48,951 ♪ I don't know why I love you ♪ 74 00:02:49,081 --> 00:02:50,648 ♪ I don't know why ♪ 75 00:02:50,779 --> 00:02:53,521 ♪ I don't know why I love you ♪ 76 00:02:53,651 --> 00:02:56,524 ♪ Now I know what it's like to beat it ♪ 77 00:02:56,654 --> 00:02:59,962 ♪ Now I know what it's like to beat it ♪ 78 00:03:00,092 --> 00:03:03,357 ♪ Man, it's overrated, crazy overrated ♪ 79 00:03:03,487 --> 00:03:04,880 ♪ See now I know ♪ 80 00:03:05,010 --> 00:03:06,795 ♪ Oh, now I know ♪ 81 00:03:06,925 --> 00:03:10,494 ♪ Now I know what it's like to beat it ♪ 82 00:03:10,625 --> 00:03:13,976 ♪ Now I know what it's like to beat it ♪ 83 00:03:14,106 --> 00:03:17,414 ♪ Why's everybody talking [indistinct] ♪ 84 00:03:17,545 --> 00:03:20,330 ♪ See now I know, oh, now I know ♪ 85 00:03:21,897 --> 00:03:24,726 [synth blaring] 86 00:03:34,997 --> 00:03:37,956 [guitar solo playing] 87 00:04:03,199 --> 00:04:05,245 ♪ I don't know why I love you ♪ 88 00:04:05,375 --> 00:04:06,811 ♪ I don't know why ♪ 89 00:04:06,942 --> 00:04:08,770 ♪ I don't know why I love you ♪ 90 00:04:08,900 --> 00:04:10,337 ♪ I don't know why ♪ 91 00:04:10,467 --> 00:04:12,382 ♪ I don't know why I love you ♪ 92 00:04:12,513 --> 00:04:13,949 ♪ I don't know why ♪ 93 00:04:14,079 --> 00:04:15,385 ♪ I don't know why I love you ♪ 94 00:04:15,516 --> 00:04:17,082 ♪ I just don't know ♪ 95 00:04:17,213 --> 00:04:19,215 ♪ I don't know why I love you ♪ 96 00:04:19,346 --> 00:04:20,825 ♪ I don't know why ♪ 97 00:04:20,956 --> 00:04:22,566 ♪ I don't know why I love you ♪ 98 00:04:22,697 --> 00:04:24,133 ♪ I'm out ♪ 99 00:04:24,264 --> 00:04:26,266 -[song ends, audience cheering] -Peace. 100 00:04:29,225 --> 00:04:30,879 Peace for the boys. 101 00:04:31,009 --> 00:04:33,142 [static] 102 00:04:36,493 --> 00:04:38,495 [vehicle whooshing] 103 00:04:49,854 --> 00:04:52,727 [crow cawing] 104 00:04:52,857 --> 00:04:54,119 [interviewer 1] All right, here we go, 105 00:04:54,250 --> 00:04:56,774 Ultimate Donny house, scene 1, take 1. 106 00:04:58,210 --> 00:04:59,734 Action. 107 00:04:59,864 --> 00:05:01,170 [interviewer 2] All right, so, just to explain 108 00:05:01,301 --> 00:05:02,606 the context of this, we are now, uh, 109 00:05:02,737 --> 00:05:04,086 filming the documentary. 110 00:05:04,216 --> 00:05:06,958 Uh, clearly, we have Donny in hand, 111 00:05:07,089 --> 00:05:10,179 but we are still reaching out to Gil. 112 00:05:10,875 --> 00:05:15,706 And, uh, at this point we are showing Donny the email 113 00:05:15,837 --> 00:05:18,622 that we sent to Gil and then Gil's response, 114 00:05:18,753 --> 00:05:22,365 but, uh, before you read that, just to be sure, 115 00:05:22,496 --> 00:05:25,237 it has been four years since the last communication? 116 00:05:25,368 --> 00:05:27,805 Or when's the last time you talked to-- to Gil? 117 00:05:28,893 --> 00:05:30,504 I-- I guess it has been-- 118 00:05:30,634 --> 00:05:32,506 I-- I think if there is a stubborn streak-- streak, 119 00:05:32,636 --> 00:05:34,159 he-- it would be more on him. 120 00:05:35,030 --> 00:05:37,249 Like, he would-- he would have that more than me. 121 00:05:39,164 --> 00:05:40,731 [interviewer 1] We're gonna cut there. We're blanking. 122 00:05:40,862 --> 00:05:42,516 [interviewer 2] Okay. Hold on, I need to re-slate. 123 00:05:42,646 --> 00:05:45,214 -[interviewer 1] Okay. -[Donny singing] 124 00:05:47,303 --> 00:05:49,871 [interviewer 1] UD House, take 2. 125 00:05:50,437 --> 00:05:51,786 [interviewer 2] We're set. You ready? 126 00:05:51,916 --> 00:05:53,265 -Yeah. -For the record, 127 00:05:53,396 --> 00:05:54,789 what is your real name? 128 00:05:54,919 --> 00:05:58,401 Oh, um, I guess I have to tell you 129 00:05:58,532 --> 00:06:00,490 the truth now, which sucks! 130 00:06:02,666 --> 00:06:04,538 What's up, motherfuckin' Chicago! 131 00:06:04,668 --> 00:06:07,628 I am the Ultimate, goddamn, motherfucking, 132 00:06:07,758 --> 00:06:10,413 all that pussy shit, Donny! 133 00:06:13,285 --> 00:06:15,723 ♪ Designer of the soul ♪ 134 00:06:17,246 --> 00:06:19,161 ♪ Complicating me ♪ 135 00:06:20,510 --> 00:06:22,382 ♪ Never give in ♪ 136 00:06:23,513 --> 00:06:25,646 [indistinct lyrics] 137 00:06:26,777 --> 00:06:30,215 ♪ To always stick to my guns ♪ 138 00:06:30,346 --> 00:06:33,349 ♪ No matter what the cost ♪ 139 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,179 ♪ My only fear is love lost ♪ 140 00:06:37,309 --> 00:06:40,225 ♪ And I won't go ♪ 141 00:06:40,356 --> 00:06:43,315 ♪ So, I see your hands ♪ 142 00:06:43,446 --> 00:06:45,013 ♪ You're shouting in the night ♪ 143 00:06:46,928 --> 00:06:48,495 ♪ Believing me, yeah ♪ 144 00:06:48,625 --> 00:06:54,501 ♪ 145 00:06:58,896 --> 00:07:00,681 [music fades] 146 00:07:00,811 --> 00:07:03,684 Um, Richard Bernacky, Jr., 147 00:07:03,814 --> 00:07:04,902 no middle name. 148 00:07:05,468 --> 00:07:06,991 [interviewer 1] And where were you born? 149 00:07:07,122 --> 00:07:08,732 [Richie] Youngstown, Ohio. 150 00:07:08,863 --> 00:07:12,083 My dad worked at General Motors, uh, most of his life. 151 00:07:12,910 --> 00:07:15,870 Huge influence on-- on this area, like, 152 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,480 big, big company here. 153 00:07:17,611 --> 00:07:18,873 [interviewer 1] What were you like as a kid? 154 00:07:19,003 --> 00:07:20,570 You know, were you the class clown, 155 00:07:20,701 --> 00:07:22,572 were you more reserved, or... 156 00:07:22,703 --> 00:07:24,182 Kinda dorky. 157 00:07:24,313 --> 00:07:25,445 My hair was always stupid, 158 00:07:25,575 --> 00:07:27,882 I never had good clothes, you know. 159 00:07:28,012 --> 00:07:31,233 I felt kind of weird about myself for a while, 160 00:07:31,363 --> 00:07:35,324 but then sometimes I was the class clown, like-- but rarely. 161 00:07:35,455 --> 00:07:38,675 Richie is-- is-- is probably the kindest madman 162 00:07:38,806 --> 00:07:40,155 you'll ever meet. 163 00:07:40,285 --> 00:07:41,373 We had a pretty vicious social circle 164 00:07:41,504 --> 00:07:43,375 in our, uh, hometown 165 00:07:43,506 --> 00:07:45,595 and they'd always decide to sort of, uh, 166 00:07:45,726 --> 00:07:47,554 excommunicate certain kids and I got picked 167 00:07:47,684 --> 00:07:49,164 the eighth grade year, so I was suddenly just sitting 168 00:07:49,294 --> 00:07:50,382 alone at lunch all the time, 169 00:07:50,513 --> 00:07:51,427 you know, like, "What happened?" 170 00:07:51,993 --> 00:07:53,560 Uh, and Richie somehow befriended me 171 00:07:53,690 --> 00:07:55,431 'cause he was just, like, this good-hearted kid, 172 00:07:55,562 --> 00:07:58,478 so I have ample respect for his kindness as a human being. 173 00:07:58,608 --> 00:08:00,828 Like, I-- I don't think the guy has a mean bone in his body. 174 00:08:00,958 --> 00:08:03,047 What you-- what you got on stage was what he wanted 175 00:08:03,178 --> 00:08:05,310 to present and outside of the stage, he didn't have any-- 176 00:08:05,441 --> 00:08:06,834 he'd left it all there. 177 00:08:10,925 --> 00:08:12,709 [Glen using Vocoder] 178 00:08:14,363 --> 00:08:18,541 [Glen] 179 00:08:22,066 --> 00:08:25,243 [Glen] 180 00:08:25,374 --> 00:08:27,419 [audience laughing] 181 00:08:35,166 --> 00:08:36,167 [Glen] 182 00:08:36,298 --> 00:08:38,169 [audience laughing] 183 00:08:41,999 --> 00:08:43,697 Early on, a big part of the show, 184 00:08:43,827 --> 00:08:46,656 like, I used to berate him horribly. 185 00:08:49,224 --> 00:08:51,835 [Glen speaking distortedly] 186 00:08:56,274 --> 00:08:58,059 -[Glen using Vocoder] -And-- shut the fuck-- 187 00:08:59,060 --> 00:09:01,845 Man, I'm serious, this story hurts a lot and you know 188 00:09:01,976 --> 00:09:03,368 the same story 'cause you're my fucking brother, dude. 189 00:09:03,499 --> 00:09:04,631 You're younger, that's my brother. 190 00:09:04,761 --> 00:09:06,284 Shut the fuck up for a minute. 191 00:09:06,415 --> 00:09:08,460 Couple years later I think we were in Milwaukee 192 00:09:08,591 --> 00:09:10,375 we were just, like, having a heart-to-heart about nothin' 193 00:09:10,506 --> 00:09:13,378 and then he's just like, "Man, I kinda don't like it 194 00:09:13,509 --> 00:09:14,945 when you do all that, you know, 195 00:09:15,076 --> 00:09:16,730 it-- it actually hurts my feelings." 196 00:09:16,860 --> 00:09:20,560 I'm like-- I was like-- I felt so bad, like, "Oh, shit." 197 00:09:20,690 --> 00:09:24,868 But as far as, like, whatever else I said, 198 00:09:24,999 --> 00:09:28,524 he was totally on board with me being a-- a complete maniac. 199 00:09:40,884 --> 00:09:43,583 [Glen using Vocoder] 200 00:09:44,453 --> 00:09:45,759 As far as Glen is concerned, 201 00:09:45,889 --> 00:09:48,588 I always knew him younger to be very shy, 202 00:09:48,718 --> 00:09:50,459 um, which he's not if you know him. 203 00:09:58,380 --> 00:10:00,991 [synthesized singing] 204 00:10:05,256 --> 00:10:08,433 [synthesized singing continues] 205 00:10:27,975 --> 00:10:33,241 ♪ 206 00:10:36,026 --> 00:10:37,941 [screaming] 207 00:10:39,290 --> 00:10:41,597 [audience cheering] 208 00:10:41,728 --> 00:10:43,555 I mean, even today, Glen still keeps to himself, 209 00:10:43,686 --> 00:10:44,992 he likes to do his own thing. 210 00:10:45,122 --> 00:10:46,863 They would not impress you as maniacs 211 00:10:46,994 --> 00:10:48,996 if you knew them in per-- I mean, I-- I know them, 212 00:10:49,126 --> 00:10:50,345 so I know that they're maniacs, 213 00:10:50,475 --> 00:10:52,086 but if you would just meet them out, 214 00:10:52,216 --> 00:10:54,349 I think people would be like, "These are the guys?" 215 00:10:54,479 --> 00:10:56,568 Well, the relationship-- like, he's actually my step-brother. 216 00:10:57,047 --> 00:10:58,396 We got together when I was, like... 217 00:10:59,571 --> 00:11:01,051 I don't know, I was probably around eight years old 218 00:11:01,182 --> 00:11:02,574 and he was one. 219 00:11:02,705 --> 00:11:04,272 I took care of his ass, like, you know, 220 00:11:04,402 --> 00:11:05,882 I was pretty much his babysitter 221 00:11:06,013 --> 00:11:07,449 and his-- his guardian, like, I-- I took care of him 222 00:11:07,579 --> 00:11:09,843 all through him growing up. 223 00:11:09,973 --> 00:11:11,105 So, we were super tight 224 00:11:11,235 --> 00:11:12,889 and then we became great friends. 225 00:11:13,020 --> 00:11:15,283 Like, me and Gil used to hang like the Dickens, man. 226 00:11:15,413 --> 00:11:18,721 Discuss music, uh, you know, like, introduced 227 00:11:18,852 --> 00:11:21,332 a lot of music I was listening to and then 228 00:11:21,463 --> 00:11:24,335 sometimes he would bring some stuff even at a young age. 229 00:11:24,466 --> 00:11:26,033 [interviewer 1] So, when is the first time 230 00:11:26,163 --> 00:11:28,165 you pick up an instrument, is it the guitar? 231 00:11:28,296 --> 00:11:30,037 When did you, like, get into music in that way? 232 00:11:30,167 --> 00:11:31,952 Um, fifth grade, at school, 233 00:11:32,082 --> 00:11:34,911 I-- I decided to play violin, so I did that for two years. 234 00:11:35,390 --> 00:11:36,870 And that's, you know-- I guess that's where I learned 235 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,262 all about timing and everything. 236 00:11:38,393 --> 00:11:40,787 I didn't start playing guitar until 20. 237 00:11:40,917 --> 00:11:42,440 20 years old. 238 00:11:42,571 --> 00:11:43,877 [interviewer 1] So, how many bands were you in 239 00:11:44,007 --> 00:11:45,748 before Gil Mantera's Party Dream? 240 00:11:45,879 --> 00:11:47,010 Uh, just two. 241 00:11:48,011 --> 00:11:50,492 And, like, both did really, really well in Youngstown, 242 00:11:50,622 --> 00:11:52,799 um, and then we did a little bit of traveling. 243 00:11:52,929 --> 00:11:55,976 So, I definitely cut my chops in that way 244 00:11:56,106 --> 00:11:58,326 as a front man, learning how to, like, do a lot of things, 245 00:11:58,456 --> 00:12:01,198 be confident and project and all that. 246 00:12:01,329 --> 00:12:03,157 [interviewer 1] So, then at what point along that journey 247 00:12:03,287 --> 00:12:04,985 did you bring Glen into the fold 248 00:12:05,115 --> 00:12:06,856 and decide you want to work with him in a musical way? 249 00:12:06,987 --> 00:12:08,466 You know, was playing in bands with his friends 250 00:12:08,597 --> 00:12:11,121 at the time, like, learning bass and, you know, 251 00:12:11,252 --> 00:12:14,342 doing some bizarre, like, crazy metal songs and stuff. 252 00:12:14,472 --> 00:12:16,692 And then our friend, James Gage, 253 00:12:16,823 --> 00:12:18,476 we all, you know, got along and had this idea 254 00:12:18,607 --> 00:12:20,217 that we were gonna do Party Talk. 255 00:12:20,348 --> 00:12:21,697 [Richie, robotic voice] 100% Party Talker. 256 00:12:21,828 --> 00:12:24,439 This is pre-show warm-up. 257 00:12:24,569 --> 00:12:27,137 Actually we are loading and discussing. 258 00:12:27,268 --> 00:12:29,139 Thank you. 259 00:12:29,270 --> 00:12:32,186 [normal voice] This is Paul. He's another Party Talker. 260 00:12:32,316 --> 00:12:34,536 This is Dakota from Columbus, Party Talker. 261 00:12:34,666 --> 00:12:36,190 Show these fuckers again. 262 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,583 Before there was the Party Dream, 263 00:12:38,714 --> 00:12:40,585 there was Party Talk. 264 00:12:40,716 --> 00:12:42,805 Party Talk was me, James Gage, 265 00:12:42,936 --> 00:12:46,330 who went by, uh, Tartron, and my brother. 266 00:12:46,461 --> 00:12:49,769 [indistinct singing] 267 00:12:49,899 --> 00:12:51,727 The thought was we're gonna be a band 268 00:12:51,858 --> 00:12:54,338 for one night and one night only. 269 00:12:54,469 --> 00:12:57,298 The-- the impetus of Party Talk, which, you know, 270 00:12:57,428 --> 00:12:59,953 would evolve into Gil Mantera's Party Dream, 271 00:13:00,083 --> 00:13:05,306 was to create something that was, by design, to be unliked. 272 00:13:05,436 --> 00:13:08,048 [indistinct singing] 273 00:13:12,879 --> 00:13:15,707 [audience cheering] 274 00:13:15,838 --> 00:13:17,535 People went crazy for it. 275 00:13:17,666 --> 00:13:19,276 It was the-- it was the weirdest-- one of the weirdest 276 00:13:19,407 --> 00:13:22,802 nights of my life to see that, uh, reaction to something 277 00:13:22,932 --> 00:13:25,239 that was put together specifically to suck. 278 00:13:25,369 --> 00:13:28,503 If you've never been to Toronto, why you actin' 279 00:13:28,633 --> 00:13:30,853 the fuck like you been to Toronto? 280 00:13:30,984 --> 00:13:35,989 ♪ I'm so proud of myself ♪ 281 00:13:38,208 --> 00:13:40,950 [crowd cheering] 282 00:13:41,081 --> 00:13:44,084 [indistinct singing] 283 00:13:52,483 --> 00:13:56,748 ♪ 284 00:13:56,879 --> 00:13:59,403 Hello, bartender, I'll take another one! 285 00:13:59,534 --> 00:14:01,188 Oh, thank you. 286 00:14:05,453 --> 00:14:07,411 That was great, but I think I'm drunk! 287 00:14:07,542 --> 00:14:09,718 [audience cheering] 288 00:14:09,849 --> 00:14:11,241 There was one-- one show only. 289 00:14:11,763 --> 00:14:15,855 Um, and that happened a week before I moved to California. 290 00:14:15,985 --> 00:14:17,508 So, for me, it was just sort of like this 291 00:14:17,639 --> 00:14:20,424 grand fuck-off show to dick off with my friends. 292 00:14:20,990 --> 00:14:22,818 They took it to the next level, 293 00:14:22,949 --> 00:14:26,866 but the seed was planted with that initial Party Talk show. 294 00:14:26,996 --> 00:14:29,869 Christmas Eve 1999. 295 00:14:29,999 --> 00:14:32,175 A friend of mine was in a punk band 296 00:14:32,306 --> 00:14:36,179 and he had other bands coming in from out of town. 297 00:14:36,832 --> 00:14:39,791 And it was the blizzard of '99 so everybody canceled. 298 00:14:40,662 --> 00:14:43,534 He called me up and said, "Hey, can you do something? 299 00:14:44,100 --> 00:14:45,623 Like, I don't even care what it is." 300 00:14:45,754 --> 00:14:47,669 It just so happens that my brother was in 301 00:14:47,799 --> 00:14:48,975 from, uh, Columbus. 302 00:14:49,714 --> 00:14:54,241 And, um, I asked him and he's like, "Yeah, let's do this." 303 00:14:54,371 --> 00:14:57,635 In four hours or less, put together the set, 304 00:14:57,766 --> 00:14:59,376 put together our band. 305 00:14:59,507 --> 00:15:02,031 So, when we got to the club that evening 306 00:15:02,162 --> 00:15:04,991 I said, "Let's call it Gil Mantera's Party Dream," 307 00:15:05,121 --> 00:15:06,383 and that was it. 308 00:15:06,514 --> 00:15:08,516 And it was never meant to go anywhere. 309 00:15:08,646 --> 00:15:12,259 ♪ What Gil Mantera is trying to tell you all ♪ 310 00:15:12,389 --> 00:15:14,739 ♪ Is that he's really disappointed ♪ 311 00:15:14,870 --> 00:15:16,524 ♪ That you didn't dance ♪ 312 00:15:16,654 --> 00:15:18,830 ♪ He likes when the broads that dance ♪ 313 00:15:18,961 --> 00:15:21,007 ♪ Go up and do their thing ♪ 314 00:15:21,137 --> 00:15:24,706 ♪ 'Cause we got this thing, it's our own thing ♪ 315 00:15:24,836 --> 00:15:26,795 ♪ And now you can help us ♪ 316 00:15:26,926 --> 00:15:29,102 ♪ That's what Gil Mantera's trying to say ♪ 317 00:15:29,232 --> 00:15:30,799 ♪ He is Gil Mantera ♪ 318 00:15:30,930 --> 00:15:33,019 ♪ My name's Donny, girl ♪ 319 00:15:33,149 --> 00:15:34,542 We had a lot of fun. 320 00:15:34,672 --> 00:15:36,196 We looked terrible, we sounded terrible. 321 00:15:37,110 --> 00:15:40,287 I do think we-- At-- at that time, we had a feeling 322 00:15:40,417 --> 00:15:43,638 that we had something and we definitely did not plan 323 00:15:43,768 --> 00:15:45,945 on doing anything with that something. 324 00:15:46,075 --> 00:15:48,382 Like, "Eh, I don't know, maybe we'll do this again." 325 00:15:49,122 --> 00:15:50,471 And we did, shortly after. 326 00:15:50,601 --> 00:15:51,907 Like, maybe a couple months later. 327 00:15:52,647 --> 00:15:55,955 Oh, shit! A couple months later was our CD release party. 328 00:15:56,433 --> 00:15:59,959 Uh, we decided to book a show as our CD release 329 00:16:00,089 --> 00:16:02,874 and didn't have any songs. 330 00:16:03,005 --> 00:16:06,530 And so, like-- And that was Best Friends. 331 00:16:06,661 --> 00:16:08,054 We had to bust our asses. 332 00:16:08,184 --> 00:16:09,838 Got the digital four-track 333 00:16:09,969 --> 00:16:12,101 and just created some songs 334 00:16:12,232 --> 00:16:14,147 and then we pressed them ourselves, 335 00:16:14,277 --> 00:16:16,149 like, did all the art ourselves, like, great. 336 00:16:16,976 --> 00:16:18,194 We're in Columbus. 337 00:16:19,717 --> 00:16:21,284 We've gotta fuck shit up. 338 00:16:21,415 --> 00:16:24,026 [rock music playing] 339 00:16:24,157 --> 00:16:25,636 We're gonna fuck it up. 340 00:16:25,767 --> 00:16:28,161 [Richie] We did want it to be listenable 341 00:16:28,291 --> 00:16:30,685 and enjoyable on some level for sure. 342 00:16:30,815 --> 00:16:34,341 And sometimes it was how to make the song as stupid 343 00:16:34,471 --> 00:16:37,213 as possible, like, what doesn't make sense here? 344 00:16:37,344 --> 00:16:39,085 And, like, let's go for that. 345 00:16:39,215 --> 00:16:40,869 I mean, as a band, we didn't even make sense. 346 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,264 And I think as individuals we don't really make sense, 347 00:16:44,394 --> 00:16:46,831 so, like, that was kind of, like, what we were pushing for. 348 00:16:46,962 --> 00:16:49,182 Let's make some bizarre music and just have fun. 349 00:16:53,099 --> 00:16:54,448 Bumble-Stiff! 350 00:16:54,578 --> 00:16:57,364 [crowd cheering] 351 00:17:14,250 --> 00:17:15,686 Piece of shit. 352 00:17:20,300 --> 00:17:23,172 [crowd cheering] 353 00:17:25,783 --> 00:17:27,829 [Richie] We had ten CDs pressed 354 00:17:27,959 --> 00:17:30,353 and we sold 'em out, man, sold 'em out. 355 00:17:30,484 --> 00:17:32,703 I think there were only 20 copies of Best Friends. 356 00:17:32,834 --> 00:17:34,618 Period. 357 00:17:34,749 --> 00:17:36,185 [Glen] The coat's for sale, let's bring the coat out, too. 358 00:17:36,316 --> 00:17:38,535 -Seven bucks. -[Richie] It's six bucks. 359 00:17:38,666 --> 00:17:40,711 -The coat's $6. -[woman] $6 for that? 360 00:17:40,842 --> 00:17:42,626 Oh, you think that's-- that's not enough, huh? 361 00:17:42,757 --> 00:17:45,325 -[woman] I don't know. -Sling some beer, get a coat. 362 00:17:46,413 --> 00:17:48,458 [Richie] The wardrobe and props were always a big thing. 363 00:17:48,589 --> 00:17:51,809 Um, the whole idea, like, in-- in my mind, I-- I just 364 00:17:51,940 --> 00:17:53,855 did want-- I wanted to look horrible. 365 00:17:53,985 --> 00:17:56,031 I wanted people to be disgusted by, like, 366 00:17:56,162 --> 00:17:59,991 how terrible I looked, and that was pretty much it. 367 00:18:00,122 --> 00:18:02,255 This is some of the early stuff. 368 00:18:02,777 --> 00:18:04,735 This style, this beach cover-up crap. 369 00:18:05,954 --> 00:18:07,738 Definitely wearing a lot of that. 370 00:18:07,869 --> 00:18:09,827 That's a one-piece thing, it's not just a shirt. 371 00:18:12,482 --> 00:18:14,005 Classic Gil style. 372 00:18:15,398 --> 00:18:17,661 Big leather ass coat with fringe. 373 00:18:17,792 --> 00:18:20,403 Oh, man, this stuff's disgusting. 374 00:18:20,534 --> 00:18:22,884 [laughing] 375 00:18:24,103 --> 00:18:26,279 Oh, here we go. I always liked kitties. 376 00:18:26,409 --> 00:18:27,715 You know, kitties are always cute. 377 00:18:28,411 --> 00:18:29,717 You'd feel good about yourself 378 00:18:29,847 --> 00:18:31,371 when you wear something like this. 379 00:18:31,501 --> 00:18:32,807 Very good about yourself. 380 00:18:32,937 --> 00:18:34,243 I remember, this was part of 381 00:18:34,374 --> 00:18:37,116 the whole Western Brotherhood tour 382 00:18:37,246 --> 00:18:38,856 when we were doing dreamscape songs. 383 00:18:39,553 --> 00:18:43,731 I matched that with some brown Han Solo leather stuff and wow. 384 00:18:43,861 --> 00:18:45,515 Oh, very nice, this is, uh, 385 00:18:46,734 --> 00:18:50,477 part of the Dreamsport touring stuff. 386 00:18:50,607 --> 00:18:52,783 Very sporty and dreamy about those. 387 00:18:53,958 --> 00:18:57,179 More, looks like, crushed velour or something' like that. 388 00:18:57,310 --> 00:18:58,746 Nice suit. 389 00:18:59,312 --> 00:19:02,053 Now this! Ooh, this is good stuff, too. 390 00:19:02,184 --> 00:19:03,316 One piece. 391 00:19:03,968 --> 00:19:06,493 It's almost like a little wrestling thing. 392 00:19:07,102 --> 00:19:09,017 [laughs] 393 00:19:12,020 --> 00:19:13,108 It's-- 394 00:19:14,370 --> 00:19:16,894 I can imagine myself coming out and trying to look cool 395 00:19:17,025 --> 00:19:18,766 in something' like this, you know? 396 00:19:19,506 --> 00:19:21,421 But I did! I did look cool. 397 00:19:21,551 --> 00:19:26,165 ♪ 398 00:19:26,295 --> 00:19:29,342 Started off stripping and we couldn't stop. 399 00:19:29,907 --> 00:19:31,779 That's pretty much it, we can't get away from it. 400 00:19:31,909 --> 00:19:33,041 We couldn't, like-- it's just in us, 401 00:19:33,172 --> 00:19:34,695 we have to take our clothes off. 402 00:19:34,825 --> 00:19:37,959 It has a lot to do with just exposing yourself. 403 00:19:38,089 --> 00:19:39,613 There's a lot of raw shit that happened 404 00:19:39,743 --> 00:19:41,571 with Party Dream, and that's part of it. 405 00:19:41,702 --> 00:19:43,312 It's like, "Here I am." 406 00:19:43,443 --> 00:19:45,053 And, you know, like, even then, you know, 407 00:19:45,184 --> 00:19:47,055 most of the shows I'm probably about 15 pounds heavier. 408 00:19:47,186 --> 00:19:48,926 I've been telling every city for the last 409 00:19:49,057 --> 00:19:50,841 four and a half years, it's like, "Hey, man, I know 410 00:19:50,972 --> 00:19:52,626 I got a little weight in my gut," and I always say, 411 00:19:52,756 --> 00:19:54,454 "Hey, I'm gonna work out. Next time you see me 412 00:19:54,584 --> 00:19:55,890 I'm gonna be slim and trim. I have been lying 413 00:19:56,020 --> 00:19:57,674 for the last four and half years. 414 00:19:57,805 --> 00:20:00,503 I get-- I get a little-- I-- I put on weight, like, 415 00:20:00,634 --> 00:20:02,462 every goddamn day and, you know what I'm sayin', 416 00:20:02,592 --> 00:20:03,898 I don't give a fuck anymore. 417 00:20:04,028 --> 00:20:05,291 Yeah, I looked like shit 418 00:20:05,421 --> 00:20:06,901 and it kind of just didn't matter. 419 00:20:07,031 --> 00:20:08,598 And we were always just... 420 00:20:09,251 --> 00:20:10,513 "Here we are." 421 00:20:10,644 --> 00:20:14,082 [crowd cheering] 422 00:20:16,215 --> 00:20:18,042 [interviewer 1] Okay, we're rolling. 423 00:20:18,173 --> 00:20:20,001 [interviewer 2] As long as we got the guitar fuckin' rollin'. 424 00:20:20,131 --> 00:20:21,350 -Yeah. -Let's play some shit. 425 00:20:21,481 --> 00:20:22,569 I mean, whatever. 426 00:20:22,699 --> 00:20:24,048 I don't play guitar very well, 427 00:20:24,179 --> 00:20:25,876 but sure, I'll-- I'll play all day. 428 00:20:26,007 --> 00:20:27,791 [interviewer 1] But I don't know if you're talking about 429 00:20:27,922 --> 00:20:29,532 the instrumental, I don't know if you can even remember that. 430 00:20:29,663 --> 00:20:31,317 Or whatever the hell you want, like, we don't care. 431 00:20:31,447 --> 00:20:33,623 Um. Oh, man, the instrumental, now that I remember it, 432 00:20:33,754 --> 00:20:35,321 was in drop D. 433 00:20:35,451 --> 00:20:38,062 I really, like-- I really don't-- 434 00:20:38,193 --> 00:20:41,370 I don't play guitar. [laughs] 435 00:20:41,501 --> 00:20:42,850 [interviewer 1] Fuckin' liar! 436 00:20:42,980 --> 00:20:45,592 I-- I don't play guitar. 437 00:20:45,722 --> 00:20:46,636 You know what I mean? 438 00:20:47,028 --> 00:20:48,421 I can put my fingers on there and stuff 439 00:20:48,551 --> 00:20:50,031 and hit the strings, 440 00:20:50,161 --> 00:20:51,772 but I don't actually play guitar. 441 00:20:51,902 --> 00:20:53,513 [interviewer 1] Even if you're just fucking around? 442 00:20:53,643 --> 00:20:55,384 Is there anything you nor-- What do you normally play 443 00:20:55,515 --> 00:20:57,560 when you pick up a guitar and you're-- you're warming up? 444 00:20:58,692 --> 00:21:00,346 -I don't do that. -Okay. 445 00:21:00,476 --> 00:21:02,609 Honestly, like, I-- I-- I've never really picked up 446 00:21:02,739 --> 00:21:05,481 a guitar. I wish I would 'cause there are things-- 447 00:21:05,612 --> 00:21:07,222 Sometimes I'll pick it up. You know, 448 00:21:07,353 --> 00:21:08,919 sometimes I'll just pick it up and just play, like, 449 00:21:09,050 --> 00:21:11,095 some, like, pretty chords that are slightly dissonant, 450 00:21:11,226 --> 00:21:14,882 you know, in-- in terms of just hearing things and writing. 451 00:21:15,012 --> 00:21:16,231 But, um... 452 00:21:16,927 --> 00:21:19,190 On the spot, you're probably not gonna get much out of me. 453 00:21:19,321 --> 00:21:20,801 It's gonna sound like crap. 454 00:21:20,931 --> 00:21:22,106 [interviewer 1] All right, well, we got what we got. 455 00:21:22,281 --> 00:21:23,282 Awesome-- 456 00:21:23,412 --> 00:21:26,241 [audience laughing on tape] 457 00:21:26,372 --> 00:21:27,938 [Richie] 458 00:21:28,591 --> 00:21:29,897 [man] 459 00:21:30,027 --> 00:21:31,681 [Richie] 460 00:21:40,255 --> 00:21:43,867 [synth-rock music playing] 461 00:21:50,004 --> 00:21:51,788 ♪ I saw you walk away ♪ 462 00:21:51,919 --> 00:21:54,704 ♪ My love is like a drama stage ♪ 463 00:21:54,835 --> 00:21:58,534 ♪ My world, and all in where they want it ♪ 464 00:21:58,665 --> 00:22:01,929 ♪ As long as I become your prayer ♪ 465 00:22:02,059 --> 00:22:05,149 ♪ But I know I'll be all right ♪ 466 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,152 ♪ I know I'll be all right ♪ 467 00:22:08,283 --> 00:22:11,242 ♪ The sky's so out of sight, hey, yeah ♪ 468 00:22:11,373 --> 00:22:13,897 ♪ But I know I'll be all right ♪ 469 00:22:14,028 --> 00:22:16,987 ♪ And I know I'll be all right ♪ 470 00:22:17,118 --> 00:22:20,208 ♪ And I know I'll be okay ♪ 471 00:22:20,339 --> 00:22:22,950 ♪ And everything I'm told ♪ 472 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,996 ♪ Everything sounds great ♪ 473 00:22:26,127 --> 00:22:27,389 ♪ Let's take it down ♪ 474 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,479 [guitar solo playing] 475 00:23:01,380 --> 00:23:04,208 ♪ I know I'll be all right ♪ 476 00:23:04,339 --> 00:23:06,994 ♪ I know I'll be all right ♪ 477 00:23:07,124 --> 00:23:10,389 ♪ The sky's so out of sight, yeah, yeah ♪ 478 00:23:10,519 --> 00:23:13,522 ♪ But I know I'll be all right ♪ 479 00:23:15,176 --> 00:23:17,918 [crowd cheering] 480 00:23:26,230 --> 00:23:28,450 [engine rumbling] 481 00:23:30,670 --> 00:23:33,760 [street din] 482 00:23:36,589 --> 00:23:39,374 [birds chirping] 483 00:23:49,602 --> 00:23:51,299 -[man 1] How you been, man? -[man 2] 'Sup, dude? 484 00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:53,040 [Richie] I've been-- I've been all right. 485 00:23:53,170 --> 00:23:55,303 -[man 2] Oh, thank you. -No, look into the camera 486 00:23:55,434 --> 00:23:57,174 -and tell us how you feel. -I've been all right. 487 00:23:57,305 --> 00:23:58,959 Ever since I got my fancy haircut, 488 00:23:59,089 --> 00:24:00,482 things have really been looking up. 489 00:24:00,613 --> 00:24:01,875 [man 1] Hey, what's the matter with you? 490 00:24:02,005 --> 00:24:03,006 [man 2] When did you cut your hair? 491 00:24:03,137 --> 00:24:04,225 'Bout two or three weeks ago. 492 00:24:04,791 --> 00:24:06,357 [man 1] You're not as sexy as I once thought you were. 493 00:24:06,488 --> 00:24:08,359 Eh. Right... 494 00:24:08,490 --> 00:24:10,144 [man 2] Please. 495 00:24:10,274 --> 00:24:11,885 Tell that-- tell that-- tell that one to the judge. 496 00:24:12,015 --> 00:24:14,017 [man 2] Wanna go outside? Can we go outside with these? 497 00:24:14,148 --> 00:24:15,236 -[man 3] Yeah. -[man 2] All right, 498 00:24:15,366 --> 00:24:16,585 that's where I'll go. 499 00:24:17,151 --> 00:24:19,283 I can tell you this, Gil Mantera's 500 00:24:19,414 --> 00:24:22,069 was-- was in my heart early, 501 00:24:22,199 --> 00:24:23,897 when they were just kinda figuring out 502 00:24:24,027 --> 00:24:25,638 -what they were doing. -And pissing you off. 503 00:24:25,768 --> 00:24:27,727 Then they were pissing me off and they were, 504 00:24:27,857 --> 00:24:29,468 like, pouring cologne on their balls 505 00:24:29,598 --> 00:24:31,078 and then I had to clean that shit up 506 00:24:31,208 --> 00:24:33,341 for about two and a half weeks, and I mean-- 507 00:24:33,472 --> 00:24:36,387 But the impact that Gil Mantera's Party Dream 508 00:24:36,518 --> 00:24:39,521 left on Youngstown was that old man ball smell. 509 00:24:39,652 --> 00:24:40,696 [Richie] Old man ball. 510 00:24:40,827 --> 00:24:42,611 [Joe] And that began 511 00:24:42,742 --> 00:24:45,222 the, uh, popularity of-- of Gil Mantera's. 512 00:24:45,353 --> 00:24:46,833 Love will trick you and love will bite you 513 00:24:46,963 --> 00:24:48,965 in your motherfuckin' ass. 514 00:24:49,096 --> 00:24:52,708 -[music starts playing] -Ah. 515 00:24:52,839 --> 00:24:55,015 Are you happy? Don't laugh. 516 00:24:55,885 --> 00:24:59,193 This one's called "Blats from the Pabst." 517 00:24:59,933 --> 00:25:04,067 [robotic singing on Vocoder] 518 00:25:22,129 --> 00:25:24,479 I think progressively every show that they did 519 00:25:24,610 --> 00:25:27,787 there would be twice as many people, you know? 520 00:25:27,917 --> 00:25:29,397 So, like, when I saw them there was, like, 521 00:25:29,528 --> 00:25:31,878 15 people and the next one there's, like, 30. 522 00:25:32,008 --> 00:25:33,880 Whenever they would go to a new venue 523 00:25:34,010 --> 00:25:35,969 there'd be nobody there 'cause nobody'd ever heard of 'em. 524 00:25:36,099 --> 00:25:37,361 The very next time they'd come to town 525 00:25:37,492 --> 00:25:38,798 it'd be, like, a packed venue. 526 00:25:38,928 --> 00:25:40,321 I don't know, we-- we kept getting 527 00:25:40,451 --> 00:25:41,801 some interesting opportunities, you know, 528 00:25:41,931 --> 00:25:43,846 like, we'd get some shows in Columbus, Ohio, 529 00:25:43,977 --> 00:25:46,501 which ended up being a really good spot for us. 530 00:25:46,632 --> 00:25:48,938 Yeah, it started getting wild in Columbus. 531 00:25:49,069 --> 00:25:51,332 And, um, since my brother lived there, 532 00:25:51,462 --> 00:25:54,814 when we were just doing, like, one-off shows in Columbus, 533 00:25:54,944 --> 00:25:56,990 we were able to bring things to the table. 534 00:25:57,120 --> 00:25:59,993 Um, like, we would bring a recliner, 535 00:26:00,123 --> 00:26:02,778 a microwave, we brought it all, trampolines. 536 00:26:02,909 --> 00:26:05,476 So, like, it was the stupidest stage setup ever. 537 00:26:05,607 --> 00:26:08,131 I mean, we didn't know what we were doing yet. 538 00:26:08,262 --> 00:26:10,351 We definitely-- 539 00:26:10,481 --> 00:26:11,918 There was an evolution for sure. 540 00:26:12,048 --> 00:26:13,833 Like, our-- our characters. 541 00:26:13,963 --> 00:26:15,661 [man] They would have this, like, brothers dynamic of that 542 00:26:15,791 --> 00:26:18,098 they hated each other, which is I guess maybe ironic now. 543 00:26:18,228 --> 00:26:20,404 Uh, but they would throw beers and pour beers 544 00:26:20,535 --> 00:26:21,580 on each other's head. 545 00:26:21,710 --> 00:26:23,973 [crowd laughing] 546 00:26:30,371 --> 00:26:32,112 I remember, like, back in the day 547 00:26:32,242 --> 00:26:34,897 there was a conscious effort to outdo ourselves each time. 548 00:26:35,028 --> 00:26:37,030 Especially if we were playing the same spot. 549 00:26:37,552 --> 00:26:40,250 Like, we gotta get crazier. 550 00:26:40,381 --> 00:26:43,297 And that's probably why we started writing music 551 00:26:44,254 --> 00:26:46,996 and getting actual music instead of just playing crap 552 00:26:47,127 --> 00:26:48,563 and destroying our bodies. 553 00:26:48,694 --> 00:26:50,696 'Cause we were- the only way we could 554 00:26:50,826 --> 00:26:53,089 keep outdoing ourselves was to die. 555 00:26:53,220 --> 00:26:56,745 And, uh, we were definitely not suicidal, as far as I know. 556 00:27:01,489 --> 00:27:02,838 Like, I think that's why we were like, 557 00:27:02,969 --> 00:27:04,492 "We should have some music." 558 00:27:04,623 --> 00:27:07,756 You know, we're both, like, capable musicians 559 00:27:07,887 --> 00:27:10,237 and, you know-- who like good music. 560 00:27:10,367 --> 00:27:11,847 And then we just happened upon some, 561 00:27:11,978 --> 00:27:13,719 like, songs that sounded pretty decent. 562 00:27:13,849 --> 00:27:15,503 I think my brother just ex-- yeah, just, 563 00:27:15,634 --> 00:27:17,897 kind of liked experimenting with, like, really old, 564 00:27:18,027 --> 00:27:20,813 amazing electronic music, and getting inspired. 565 00:27:20,943 --> 00:27:22,771 And then when we started getting a little bit of money, 566 00:27:22,902 --> 00:27:25,208 he figured out what he wanted to get 567 00:27:25,339 --> 00:27:26,775 to make the sounds he wanted. 568 00:27:26,906 --> 00:27:28,734 He was doing it mostly with the stupid, 569 00:27:28,864 --> 00:27:30,474 old Yamaha keyboard. 570 00:27:30,605 --> 00:27:33,782 Eventually Glen got, like, an MPC drum machine 571 00:27:33,913 --> 00:27:36,219 and so he would hammer out beats, and then eventually, 572 00:27:36,350 --> 00:27:38,613 I think he bought a Vocoder 573 00:27:38,744 --> 00:27:41,529 and-- and kind of, like, changed everything to that. 574 00:27:41,660 --> 00:27:44,097 I don't know why he did it, but I love that he did it. 575 00:27:44,227 --> 00:27:46,752 It-- it made the band in a lot of ways. 576 00:27:46,882 --> 00:27:49,319 [Richie] He didn't have that Vocoder to begin with. 577 00:27:49,450 --> 00:27:50,712 We didn't start with that. 578 00:27:50,843 --> 00:27:52,627 He figured that's something he wanted 579 00:27:52,758 --> 00:27:55,325 and as soon as he did I just remember being like, "Oh, yeah. 580 00:27:56,370 --> 00:27:58,894 This-- this is the shit!" 581 00:27:59,025 --> 00:28:00,983 ♪ Ain't nobody gonna tear us up ♪ 582 00:28:01,114 --> 00:28:02,898 ♪ I give it up, girl ♪ 583 00:28:03,029 --> 00:28:05,292 [Vocoder singing] ♪ Fuck bullshit, this is real ♪ 584 00:28:05,422 --> 00:28:06,946 ♪ That's the deal... ♪ 585 00:28:09,775 --> 00:28:11,298 ♪ Ain't nobody gonna tear us up ♪ 586 00:28:11,428 --> 00:28:12,952 ♪ I give it up, girl ♪ 587 00:28:13,082 --> 00:28:14,910 [Richie] I think at some point it dawned on us 588 00:28:15,041 --> 00:28:17,739 that we just need to do it all. Like, we-- we have to have 589 00:28:17,870 --> 00:28:21,047 good music and we have to be our wild selves. 590 00:28:21,177 --> 00:28:22,701 ♪ Ain't nobody gonna tear us up ♪ 591 00:28:22,831 --> 00:28:24,572 ♪ I give it up, girl ♪ 592 00:28:24,703 --> 00:28:26,487 [Vocoder singing] ♪ Bullshit, this is real ♪ 593 00:28:26,617 --> 00:28:28,271 ♪ Ain't nobody gonna tear us up ♪ 594 00:28:28,402 --> 00:28:29,708 ♪ I give it up, girl ♪ 595 00:28:29,838 --> 00:28:32,145 [indistinct Vocoder singing] 596 00:28:32,275 --> 00:28:33,494 ♪ Ain't nobody gonna tear us up ♪ 597 00:28:33,624 --> 00:28:35,452 ♪ I give it up, girl ♪ 598 00:28:35,583 --> 00:28:37,193 [indistinct Vocoder singing] 599 00:28:37,324 --> 00:28:39,021 ♪ Ain't nobody gonna tear us up ♪ 600 00:28:39,152 --> 00:28:40,588 ♪ I give it up, girl ♪ 601 00:28:40,719 --> 00:28:42,938 [indistinct Vocoder singing] 602 00:28:43,069 --> 00:28:44,723 ♪ Ain't nobody gonna tear us up ♪ 603 00:28:44,853 --> 00:28:46,420 ♪ I give it up, girl ♪ 604 00:28:46,550 --> 00:28:47,551 ♪ Ain't nobody gonna tear us up ♪ 605 00:28:47,682 --> 00:28:49,249 ♪ I give it up, girl ♪ 606 00:28:49,379 --> 00:28:50,424 ♪ Ain't nobody gonna tear us up ♪ 607 00:28:50,554 --> 00:28:51,773 ♪ I give it up, girl ♪ 608 00:28:51,904 --> 00:28:55,385 -[crowd cheering] -Thank you, thank you. 609 00:28:55,516 --> 00:28:57,039 [O'Malley] Before we did Once Triangular,I was like, 610 00:28:57,170 --> 00:28:59,476 "We need to capture the live element of the band 611 00:28:59,607 --> 00:29:01,914 because we thought at that point they couldn't be recorded 612 00:29:02,044 --> 00:29:05,047 because it was so, like-- the energy of the crowd and, 613 00:29:05,178 --> 00:29:07,920 like, the-- the improv of the vocals 614 00:29:08,050 --> 00:29:09,791 and just the performance in general were, like-- 615 00:29:09,922 --> 00:29:11,706 The only way that the band could be captured 616 00:29:11,837 --> 00:29:13,708 was in a-- in a live element. 617 00:29:13,839 --> 00:29:17,320 Like, all the-- the lyrics were improv, basically. 618 00:29:18,931 --> 00:29:21,368 ♪ Now? ♪ 619 00:29:21,498 --> 00:29:23,892 ♪ Can we probe every lock in town? ♪ 620 00:29:24,023 --> 00:29:25,764 ♪ Me and you together ♪ 621 00:29:25,894 --> 00:29:27,809 ♪ We didn't ride around the corner ♪ 622 00:29:27,940 --> 00:29:29,637 ♪ The bowling alley was the first fight ♪ 623 00:29:29,768 --> 00:29:32,858 ♪ I had you down and you wanted up ♪ 624 00:29:33,336 --> 00:29:35,599 When he finally started writing real music, 625 00:29:35,730 --> 00:29:38,298 he would write the music, present it to me, 626 00:29:38,428 --> 00:29:40,996 and a lot of times, I would hear it for the first time 627 00:29:41,127 --> 00:29:42,693 while we were performing it. 628 00:29:42,824 --> 00:29:44,391 [synth blaring] 629 00:29:44,521 --> 00:29:46,697 [Glen] 630 00:29:57,317 --> 00:29:59,275 When we recorded Once Triangular, 631 00:29:59,406 --> 00:30:02,017 he would do different verses. 632 00:30:02,148 --> 00:30:03,714 We would do it, like, 633 00:30:03,845 --> 00:30:05,891 15, 20 times and then I would go through 634 00:30:06,021 --> 00:30:07,806 and pick the verses that I liked. 635 00:30:07,936 --> 00:30:10,373 I think once we had that done, those became like the lyrics 636 00:30:10,504 --> 00:30:12,811 of the song and he did the-- the vocals 637 00:30:12,941 --> 00:30:14,551 in my sister's bedroom. 638 00:30:14,682 --> 00:30:16,423 I remember, the way we had the microphones set up, 639 00:30:16,553 --> 00:30:18,991 there was a-- a bookshelf and it had, like, 640 00:30:19,121 --> 00:30:22,211 a little dra-- stuffed animal dragon and, like, 641 00:30:22,342 --> 00:30:23,996 a bunch of just, like, weird girly things 642 00:30:24,126 --> 00:30:25,911 and he'd be looking at that. He would pull lyrics 643 00:30:26,041 --> 00:30:28,739 off of, like, the dragon that was on my sister's shelf. 644 00:30:28,870 --> 00:30:31,525 And it was, like, so many elements of-- of that album, 645 00:30:31,655 --> 00:30:33,788 I kept on thinking of, like, it was all inspired 646 00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:36,182 by my, like, 14-year-old sister. 647 00:30:36,312 --> 00:30:38,793 ♪ I done rode a dragon before ♪ 648 00:30:38,924 --> 00:30:40,969 ♪ I done rode a scorpion ♪ 649 00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:43,711 [indistinct lyrics] 650 00:30:43,842 --> 00:30:45,539 [O'Malley] "Rock the Show" I-- I personally loved, 651 00:30:45,669 --> 00:30:47,671 'cause that-- that was the first song that they played 652 00:30:47,802 --> 00:30:49,673 that had, like, beats to it and it's like, 653 00:30:49,804 --> 00:30:53,155 "Oh, wow, this is almost like a rap song or something." 654 00:30:53,286 --> 00:30:56,115 There was like a da-- there was like the beginning of, like, 655 00:30:56,245 --> 00:30:57,725 "Oh, you could actually dance to this," 656 00:30:57,856 --> 00:31:00,162 where you could see where it could be more 657 00:31:00,293 --> 00:31:03,600 than just, like, a weird show that you watched, 658 00:31:03,731 --> 00:31:06,342 you could actually, like, listen to that in your car. 659 00:31:06,473 --> 00:31:10,259 [indistinct singing] 660 00:31:10,390 --> 00:31:13,132 [indistinct Vocoder singing] 661 00:31:14,089 --> 00:31:15,569 ♪ Oh, oh ♪ 662 00:31:17,745 --> 00:31:20,791 [crowd cheering] 663 00:31:24,970 --> 00:31:27,233 Holy shit! You have a Grand Buffet shirt on! 664 00:31:27,886 --> 00:31:29,191 -Oh, yeah. -You gotta show-- 665 00:31:30,105 --> 00:31:31,977 We were just-- they were just, uh, filming Grand Buffet 666 00:31:32,107 --> 00:31:34,153 the other day. They got a Grand Buffet. 667 00:31:34,283 --> 00:31:37,286 [bar chatter] 668 00:31:37,417 --> 00:31:41,029 Those guys-- I love Grand Buffet, but I'm not trading 669 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,989 my This Old House shirt for an extra large 670 00:31:44,119 --> 00:31:47,035 or double XL Grand Buffet shirt that won't fit me 671 00:31:47,166 --> 00:31:48,384 'cause I won't wear it. 672 00:31:49,385 --> 00:31:50,560 It's not gonna happen. 673 00:31:54,782 --> 00:31:56,610 Kiss my ass, Jarrod and Jackson! 674 00:31:56,740 --> 00:31:58,960 Fuck y'all! That's what I'm sayin'! 675 00:32:00,396 --> 00:32:02,616 I think Grand Buffet and Party Dream were, 676 00:32:02,746 --> 00:32:04,313 in a lot of ways, brother bands. 677 00:32:04,444 --> 00:32:06,054 I mean this-- there was two guys, 678 00:32:06,185 --> 00:32:07,838 you know, it was electronic. 679 00:32:07,969 --> 00:32:10,580 I don't consider either band, like, a comedic act. 680 00:32:11,059 --> 00:32:13,627 I mean, I consider us, first and foremost, 681 00:32:13,757 --> 00:32:18,458 bands that made music, that just were willing to do 682 00:32:18,588 --> 00:32:20,851 a lot of different kind of shit on stage, 683 00:32:20,982 --> 00:32:22,941 you know, as a means to entertain. 684 00:32:23,550 --> 00:32:26,683 They would tend to do a little bit more blood and poop jokes. 685 00:32:27,249 --> 00:32:29,425 Like, they would, like, dry fuck each other on stage 686 00:32:29,556 --> 00:32:31,906 and they would, you know, put beer bottles up their assholes. 687 00:32:32,037 --> 00:32:33,560 And if someone-- that's something that 688 00:32:33,690 --> 00:32:35,127 if someone described it to me I'd be like, 689 00:32:35,257 --> 00:32:37,216 "Fuck that, like, that's buffoonery, like that's-- 690 00:32:37,346 --> 00:32:39,479 fuck that," but when they did it, it was awesome. 691 00:32:39,609 --> 00:32:41,785 The-- the cool shit that they did does get lost 692 00:32:41,916 --> 00:32:43,439 in translation to a large extent. 693 00:32:43,570 --> 00:32:46,051 It was a visceral type of performance. 694 00:32:46,181 --> 00:32:48,749 A DVD or a YouTube clip of it is cool, 695 00:32:48,879 --> 00:32:50,446 but it's not the same. 696 00:32:50,577 --> 00:32:52,492 I feel like we probably played 697 00:32:52,622 --> 00:32:54,624 somewhere between 100 and 200 shows 698 00:32:54,755 --> 00:32:56,800 in the course of ten years. 699 00:32:56,931 --> 00:33:00,935 ♪ For once in your life, give us a break ♪ 700 00:33:01,066 --> 00:33:04,025 ♪ Think about something, anything other than space ♪ 701 00:33:04,156 --> 00:33:05,766 ♪ Stupid dinosaur ♪ 702 00:33:08,682 --> 00:33:11,380 ♪ One, two, three, four, eight, nine, eight ♪ 703 00:33:11,511 --> 00:33:14,079 ♪ This is the way we celebrate ♪ 704 00:33:14,209 --> 00:33:16,864 ♪ No more monkeys jumpin' off the bed ♪ 705 00:33:16,995 --> 00:33:19,867 ♪ I grab a piece of chicken, wrap it up, I said ♪ 706 00:33:19,998 --> 00:33:22,348 ♪ No more monkeys jumpin' off the bed ♪ 707 00:33:22,478 --> 00:33:25,264 ♪ No more monkeys jumpin' on my head ♪ 708 00:33:25,394 --> 00:33:28,223 ♪ No more monkeys, no more monkeys ♪ 709 00:33:28,354 --> 00:33:31,705 ♪ People, are you with me? ♪ 710 00:33:31,835 --> 00:33:33,968 [crowd cheering] 711 00:33:34,099 --> 00:33:39,104 ♪ 712 00:33:41,236 --> 00:33:43,282 [Jarrod] The other thing is, and th-- this doesn't get 713 00:33:43,412 --> 00:33:46,459 talked about ever, you know, they had awesome songs. 714 00:33:46,589 --> 00:33:48,591 Like, they wrote fuckin' awesome songs. 715 00:33:48,722 --> 00:33:51,116 Even then, that early on, they were a force 716 00:33:51,246 --> 00:33:53,292 in Youngstown. I mean, they had fans. 717 00:33:53,422 --> 00:33:56,817 Not just, like, friends of friends, and, you know- 718 00:33:56,947 --> 00:33:58,514 It wasn't like a local band thing. 719 00:33:58,645 --> 00:34:01,343 It was, like, very early on them as a young band, 720 00:34:01,474 --> 00:34:03,519 you know, them playing their hometown, it was kinda, like-- 721 00:34:03,650 --> 00:34:05,434 it was comparable to a national act 722 00:34:05,565 --> 00:34:07,306 coming through and-- and playing, 723 00:34:07,436 --> 00:34:10,787 which is a testament to-- you know, to the legitimacy 724 00:34:10,918 --> 00:34:13,007 of-- of them as performers. 725 00:34:13,138 --> 00:34:16,097 [bell tolling] 726 00:34:23,974 --> 00:34:26,847 [electronic music playing] 727 00:34:46,736 --> 00:34:49,217 ♪ Wizards sometimes get blue ♪ 728 00:34:49,348 --> 00:34:52,002 ♪ A lonely angel says I can too ♪ 729 00:34:52,133 --> 00:34:54,527 ♪ And I got to spare my sanity ♪ 730 00:34:57,791 --> 00:35:00,533 ♪ And save all your milk ♪ 731 00:35:00,663 --> 00:35:03,144 ♪ And save all your cookies ♪ 732 00:35:03,275 --> 00:35:05,190 ♪ Put 'em in a great big bucket ♪ 733 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,583 ♪ Until you offer anything now ♪ 734 00:35:08,976 --> 00:35:11,239 ♪ And save all your milk ♪ 735 00:35:11,370 --> 00:35:14,024 ♪ And save all your cookies ♪ 736 00:35:14,155 --> 00:35:16,331 ♪ Put 'em in a great big bucket ♪ 737 00:35:16,462 --> 00:35:18,377 ♪ Until you offer anything now ♪ 738 00:35:18,507 --> 00:35:23,121 ♪ 739 00:35:26,428 --> 00:35:28,169 [interviewer 1] So, a girl meets you after a show, 740 00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:29,779 are you still Ultimate Donny, or-- 741 00:35:29,910 --> 00:35:31,216 wh-- where-- where does that end? 742 00:35:32,260 --> 00:35:35,916 It was, um-- I mean, it is kind of one and the same. 743 00:35:36,046 --> 00:35:39,746 In my opinion, there is no substantial difference 744 00:35:39,876 --> 00:35:41,269 between Richie on stage-- 745 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,619 You shut up! I went to everywhere! 746 00:35:43,750 --> 00:35:46,187 I went to the biggest pizza factory in the world! 747 00:35:46,318 --> 00:35:47,797 You ever been there? 748 00:35:47,928 --> 00:35:50,713 -- and Richie the other 23 hours of the day. 749 00:35:50,844 --> 00:35:54,152 ♪ They like to make you pay a couple of dollars ♪ 750 00:35:54,282 --> 00:35:57,242 ♪ To eat their pizza but I swear it's worth it ♪ 751 00:35:57,372 --> 00:35:58,808 ♪ It really is! ♪ 752 00:35:59,418 --> 00:36:01,681 [laughs] 753 00:36:01,811 --> 00:36:04,945 I mean, to this day, I consider Richie 754 00:36:05,075 --> 00:36:06,773 one of my best friends and, like, 755 00:36:06,903 --> 00:36:09,558 simultaneously he is a tremendous piece of shit. 756 00:36:09,689 --> 00:36:11,430 A lot of people go to Shaolin Temple 757 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,214 thinking that they gonna come out a princess. 758 00:36:13,345 --> 00:36:14,955 It don't work that way, motherfuckers. 759 00:36:15,085 --> 00:36:16,957 I'm the ex-Cadillac, fuck y'all. 760 00:36:17,087 --> 00:36:19,133 He would be all over the place 761 00:36:19,264 --> 00:36:20,874 and that was his essence. 762 00:36:21,004 --> 00:36:23,050 That wasn't a fabrication 763 00:36:23,181 --> 00:36:25,008 'cause we would go out to, like, 764 00:36:25,139 --> 00:36:26,619 the Iron Skillet 765 00:36:26,749 --> 00:36:30,753 or a Petro Gas, you know, truck stop after that 766 00:36:30,884 --> 00:36:33,539 and he would keep drinking domestic beer 767 00:36:33,669 --> 00:36:36,585 and just rattling off shit, and I would just kind of 768 00:36:36,716 --> 00:36:40,154 shut my mouth and-- and just bask in it because, 769 00:36:40,285 --> 00:36:42,287 like, when I was done performing, 770 00:36:42,417 --> 00:36:43,940 it was kinda like, "Okay, you know, 771 00:36:44,071 --> 00:36:46,856 I-- I had that catharsis, now I'm gonna chill." 772 00:36:46,987 --> 00:36:48,858 With Richie it was just, like, 773 00:36:48,989 --> 00:36:52,688 constant attention, must have attention all the time, 774 00:36:52,819 --> 00:36:55,300 which is one of the lovable things about him. 775 00:36:55,430 --> 00:36:58,433 ♪ You can re-slate my asshole... ♪ 776 00:36:58,564 --> 00:37:00,392 [laughing] 777 00:37:00,522 --> 00:37:02,829 [interviewer 1] The UD House, take 9, re-slate the asshole. 778 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:06,876 You gotta be serious. 779 00:37:07,007 --> 00:37:08,095 You can sing anything with conviction. 780 00:37:08,226 --> 00:37:09,488 You can ask me about that, 781 00:37:09,618 --> 00:37:10,967 that is my technique, by the way. 782 00:37:11,838 --> 00:37:13,535 It's say anything with conviction. 783 00:37:13,666 --> 00:37:14,928 -[interviewer 1] Yeah. -You know how 784 00:37:15,058 --> 00:37:17,191 everybody says that, you know, 785 00:37:17,322 --> 00:37:20,716 the human brain is made of mustard and rice? 786 00:37:20,847 --> 00:37:22,631 And then that's just fact. 787 00:37:22,762 --> 00:37:24,720 You say it like that and you mean it and that's a fact, 788 00:37:24,851 --> 00:37:27,070 and then you can go into a real cool story after that. 789 00:37:27,201 --> 00:37:28,942 Dinosaurs had nuts. 790 00:37:29,072 --> 00:37:32,206 Dinosaurs used to smear shit all over their girlfriends' 791 00:37:32,337 --> 00:37:34,252 nuts at the same time. 792 00:37:34,382 --> 00:37:36,471 Big fuckin' deal, you deal with this shit. 793 00:37:36,602 --> 00:37:39,082 You move on, you come to terms, man. 794 00:37:39,213 --> 00:37:41,084 With your own fucking self. 795 00:37:41,215 --> 00:37:43,086 If this ain't you, then don't be it. 796 00:37:43,826 --> 00:37:46,264 If you're gonna lick a broad's asshole, do it right. 797 00:37:46,394 --> 00:37:47,830 The first time I actually saw them, 798 00:37:47,961 --> 00:37:50,616 it-- it wasn't 'til about 2004. 799 00:37:51,138 --> 00:37:53,271 I mean, I think I ba-- basically peed my pants 800 00:37:53,401 --> 00:37:54,881 at their show. 801 00:37:55,011 --> 00:37:56,578 The Black Keys are from Akron 802 00:37:56,709 --> 00:37:58,188 and we were hitting pretty hard in Akron, 803 00:37:58,319 --> 00:38:00,408 and Patrick just approached us one day about, 804 00:38:00,539 --> 00:38:02,410 like, putting out a record. 805 00:38:02,541 --> 00:38:04,543 I asked three-- three bands 806 00:38:04,673 --> 00:38:06,284 if they wanted to make a record. 807 00:38:06,414 --> 00:38:08,198 One was the Party Dream, one was this band from Florida 808 00:38:08,329 --> 00:38:10,200 that had a pitbull for a lead singer. 809 00:38:10,331 --> 00:38:12,028 Oh, the third-- the third record, 810 00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:14,466 I was trying to get David Cross to do a, uh-- a 7-inch. 811 00:38:15,075 --> 00:38:16,816 [Richie] And he really liked the music, 812 00:38:16,946 --> 00:38:19,645 but he-- he thought it deserved better production. 813 00:38:20,167 --> 00:38:21,951 And so, like, he talked to us about it 814 00:38:22,082 --> 00:38:24,040 and we're like, "Sure, let's do this." 815 00:38:24,171 --> 00:38:25,520 [Patrick] But, yeah, the Party Dream went 816 00:38:25,651 --> 00:38:28,349 and made a record that I eventually put out, 817 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,091 I think, in late 2005. 818 00:38:31,918 --> 00:38:33,659 [Richie] It was-- it was rough, like, 819 00:38:33,789 --> 00:38:36,139 we were in the studio and we had stuff 820 00:38:36,270 --> 00:38:37,837 that we didn't even write, you know, like, 821 00:38:37,967 --> 00:38:39,491 we had made up a lot of stuff, 822 00:38:39,621 --> 00:38:40,753 so it was a lot of pressure. 823 00:38:40,883 --> 00:38:42,450 Like, we were in New York City. 824 00:38:42,581 --> 00:38:44,800 You know, Gil had his shit together really well. 825 00:38:44,931 --> 00:38:47,716 Yeah, like, he had his carefully crafted songs. 826 00:38:47,847 --> 00:38:49,936 I mean, he usually had the tracks ready to go. 827 00:38:50,066 --> 00:38:52,112 Like, he-- he figured that out way in advance. 828 00:38:52,242 --> 00:38:53,940 Like, overall, I just think 829 00:38:54,070 --> 00:38:56,682 he's an extremely talented son of a bitch, you know, 830 00:38:56,812 --> 00:38:57,857 and, um... 831 00:38:59,424 --> 00:39:01,295 he brought the hard work 832 00:39:01,426 --> 00:39:03,776 and I brought the "here I am." 833 00:39:03,906 --> 00:39:05,604 You know, like, I had to figure out what I was 834 00:39:05,734 --> 00:39:06,866 going to do in the studio. 835 00:39:06,996 --> 00:39:08,694 Like, I didn't have parts, 836 00:39:08,824 --> 00:39:11,523 mostly because I'm kind of lazy with things like that. 837 00:39:11,653 --> 00:39:14,439 Like, if I have to think about something too much, 838 00:39:14,569 --> 00:39:16,136 it-- it cripples me. 839 00:39:16,266 --> 00:39:19,139 I'm more of a-- I respond to being pressured 840 00:39:19,269 --> 00:39:21,010 and whether it's on myself, 841 00:39:21,141 --> 00:39:22,403 if I have two minutes to do something 842 00:39:22,534 --> 00:39:24,274 that should take two years, 843 00:39:24,405 --> 00:39:26,929 I can probably get it done if it really has to get done. 844 00:39:27,060 --> 00:39:28,409 Like, "Buffalo Tears," 845 00:39:28,540 --> 00:39:30,324 the chorus was written in the studio, 846 00:39:30,455 --> 00:39:32,326 like, I'm hearing it along, Shane's just playing it, 847 00:39:32,457 --> 00:39:34,415 got it in the system, I'm hearing it, like, 848 00:39:34,546 --> 00:39:36,765 I'm just-- I'm hearing it-- we're just, like, 849 00:39:36,896 --> 00:39:38,245 drinking, having fun, I'm like-- 850 00:39:38,376 --> 00:39:39,681 ♪ I only want just-- ♪ 851 00:39:39,812 --> 00:39:41,204 Like, that whole chorus happened there. 852 00:39:41,335 --> 00:39:42,902 The entire-- Actually, that entire song, 853 00:39:43,032 --> 00:39:44,991 the lyrics happened in the studio, 854 00:39:45,121 --> 00:39:47,602 or I'm on the mic, it's one take on the mic. 855 00:39:47,733 --> 00:39:48,864 And that's what you hear. 856 00:39:48,995 --> 00:39:52,433 Which is absolutely stupid. 857 00:39:52,564 --> 00:39:54,087 Absolutely ridiculous. 858 00:39:54,217 --> 00:39:56,611 You get an opportunity to record 859 00:39:56,742 --> 00:39:58,961 in a nice studio, 860 00:39:59,092 --> 00:40:02,138 you know, Times Square, um, it's absolutely-- 861 00:40:02,269 --> 00:40:03,401 and then, like, you blow it. 862 00:40:03,531 --> 00:40:05,490 But we didn't blow it somehow. 863 00:40:05,620 --> 00:40:08,014 I don't recommend that for any band in the studio 864 00:40:08,144 --> 00:40:09,319 when you're paying for it, ever. 865 00:40:09,450 --> 00:40:11,539 That's terrible. Be prepared. 866 00:40:11,670 --> 00:40:14,237 Blood Songs,you know, Patrick Carney put us out 867 00:40:14,368 --> 00:40:17,589 on Audio Eagle, and it's a crazy album. 868 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,808 It's produced well, um, 869 00:40:19,939 --> 00:40:21,680 and-- and people took to it, like, they love that one. 870 00:40:21,810 --> 00:40:23,377 On Blood Songs you hear it very well. 871 00:40:23,508 --> 00:40:25,248 You here, like, this bizarre, like, 872 00:40:25,379 --> 00:40:28,077 soulful idiot singing over top 873 00:40:28,208 --> 00:40:29,383 some of this electronic music. 874 00:40:29,514 --> 00:40:30,993 And I think it really worked. 875 00:40:31,124 --> 00:40:33,213 And it was-- I've never heard anything like it. 876 00:40:33,343 --> 00:40:35,955 I'm almost positive 877 00:40:36,085 --> 00:40:37,652 that they made their money back on us. 878 00:40:37,783 --> 00:40:39,480 You know, I think, you know, I lost, like, 879 00:40:39,611 --> 00:40:41,830 $15,000 putting their record out. 880 00:40:42,483 --> 00:40:43,876 [interviewer] When was it when you could be, like, 881 00:40:44,006 --> 00:40:45,225 "All right, I don't need to work anymore, 882 00:40:45,355 --> 00:40:46,792 I'm just in a band?" 883 00:40:46,922 --> 00:40:49,055 Pretty sure that was the beginning of 2006. 884 00:40:49,185 --> 00:40:52,537 I think we quit. He just, uh-- Gil just finished college. 885 00:40:52,667 --> 00:40:56,497 And, um, yeah, we're like, "Let's do it." 886 00:40:56,628 --> 00:40:59,544 We were making decent money for a band out of Youngstown. 887 00:40:59,674 --> 00:41:00,936 You know, like, our tours are good. 888 00:41:01,067 --> 00:41:02,721 The only thing that bugged me, um, 889 00:41:02,851 --> 00:41:04,200 when we first started touring, 890 00:41:04,331 --> 00:41:05,550 I had a very young daughter, 891 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:06,855 and, like, that used to kill me. 892 00:41:06,986 --> 00:41:08,683 That was the only thing. 893 00:41:08,814 --> 00:41:11,643 Like, other than that, I would just, like-- I would go. 894 00:41:11,773 --> 00:41:13,340 Their shows were genuinely 895 00:41:13,471 --> 00:41:15,516 some of the best shows of any artist 896 00:41:15,647 --> 00:41:16,691 I ever worked with. 897 00:41:16,822 --> 00:41:18,780 I'd-- I'd really get excited. 898 00:41:18,911 --> 00:41:20,826 I think, as an agent 899 00:41:20,956 --> 00:41:23,568 a lot of times to really sell a band, like, 900 00:41:23,698 --> 00:41:26,266 you know, venues are most interested in whether 901 00:41:26,396 --> 00:41:27,963 the artists are selling tickets. 902 00:41:28,094 --> 00:41:29,661 You can see that their ticket sales 903 00:41:29,791 --> 00:41:32,228 started to spread, especially in the Midwest. 904 00:41:32,359 --> 00:41:33,795 They were really selling a lot of tickets 905 00:41:33,926 --> 00:41:35,971 by the time I started working with them. 906 00:41:36,102 --> 00:41:38,104 And that started to spread to the coasts. 907 00:41:38,234 --> 00:41:41,542 [dreamy synth music] 908 00:41:44,502 --> 00:41:46,068 -Miami. -Miami. 909 00:41:46,199 --> 00:41:47,679 -Here we are. -How you doing? 910 00:41:47,809 --> 00:41:50,508 Thanks for having us. First time, guys, bye. 911 00:41:54,990 --> 00:41:56,035 [interviewer] To Miami. 912 00:41:56,862 --> 00:41:57,906 To Miami. 913 00:41:58,864 --> 00:42:00,213 [speaking Spanish] 914 00:42:01,649 --> 00:42:03,521 [interviewer] Let's talk about something, man. 915 00:42:03,651 --> 00:42:06,524 How did you, uh, how'd you come up that name, Mr. Ultimate Don? 916 00:42:06,654 --> 00:42:08,874 It's just-- it's just who I am. 917 00:42:10,179 --> 00:42:11,441 [interviewer] I was asking Mr. Donny 918 00:42:11,572 --> 00:42:12,747 how he got his name. 919 00:42:13,487 --> 00:42:15,054 -Ultimate Don. -[interviewer] Mr. Gil Mantera. 920 00:42:15,184 --> 00:42:17,578 -How did you get your name? -That's just my name. 921 00:42:19,014 --> 00:42:20,320 That's what it's all about. 922 00:42:20,973 --> 00:42:22,322 The answer is in the question. 923 00:42:22,452 --> 00:42:23,715 [interviewer] Yeah, it's true. 924 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:36,989 [Glen] It's a fact. 925 00:42:46,433 --> 00:42:48,435 Check. Check. Check. One. 926 00:42:51,090 --> 00:42:55,529 ♪ Ballerina, the way you turn me on ♪ 927 00:42:55,660 --> 00:42:58,967 ♪ Something inside tells me something's wrong ♪ 928 00:42:59,098 --> 00:43:02,754 ♪ Let me be the one to hold you tonight ♪ 929 00:43:02,884 --> 00:43:06,453 ♪ Remove you from the shadows out into the light ♪ 930 00:43:06,584 --> 00:43:11,023 ♪ Pretty lady, the way you turn me out ♪ 931 00:43:11,153 --> 00:43:14,287 ♪ The way you move, makes me need you now ♪ 932 00:43:14,417 --> 00:43:18,683 ♪ Let me be the one to hold you tonight ♪ 933 00:43:18,813 --> 00:43:21,903 ♪ I am the man in white ♪ 934 00:43:36,744 --> 00:43:41,444 ♪ Ballerina, the way you turn me on ♪ 935 00:43:41,575 --> 00:43:44,534 ♪ Something inside tells me something's wrong ♪ 936 00:43:44,665 --> 00:43:48,713 ♪ Let me be the one to hold you tonight ♪ 937 00:43:48,843 --> 00:43:52,107 ♪ Remove you from the shadows out into the light ♪ 938 00:43:52,238 --> 00:43:56,982 ♪ Pretty lady, the way you turn me out ♪ 939 00:43:57,112 --> 00:44:00,072 ♪ The way you move makes me need you now ♪ 940 00:44:00,202 --> 00:44:03,815 ♪ Let me be the one to holds you tonight ♪ 941 00:44:03,945 --> 00:44:09,124 ♪ I am the man in white ♪ 942 00:44:09,255 --> 00:44:15,740 ♪ 943 00:44:22,921 --> 00:44:26,054 [Andrew] Seeing that sort of devout sort of, um, 944 00:44:26,185 --> 00:44:28,274 cult following that's going to go see them 945 00:44:28,404 --> 00:44:30,015 every single time, um, 946 00:44:30,145 --> 00:44:32,060 that are gonna come back for future tours, 947 00:44:32,191 --> 00:44:33,758 knowing that they're touring on different albums, 948 00:44:33,888 --> 00:44:35,324 that is icing on the cake 949 00:44:35,455 --> 00:44:36,978 for the venues, for the promoters, 950 00:44:37,109 --> 00:44:41,200 and they started to sell out rooms in, uh, New York. 951 00:44:42,201 --> 00:44:43,724 First time I played in the Knitting Factory 952 00:44:43,855 --> 00:44:45,552 when it was still in Manhattan, 953 00:44:45,683 --> 00:44:47,510 there were, like, five different spots you could play. 954 00:44:47,641 --> 00:44:50,383 And we played the very bottom. 955 00:44:50,513 --> 00:44:54,213 But then it wasn't too much longer after that 956 00:44:54,343 --> 00:44:57,738 we headlined The Main Room in Knitting Factory. 957 00:44:57,869 --> 00:45:00,480 And it, like, sold out, line out the door. 958 00:45:00,610 --> 00:45:02,047 And like, we got to hear the guy say, 959 00:45:02,177 --> 00:45:03,439 "All right, nobody else can come in. 960 00:45:03,570 --> 00:45:04,658 It's sold out." 961 00:45:04,789 --> 00:45:06,225 And we were just out in the-- 962 00:45:06,355 --> 00:45:07,705 out in the foyer or whatever, 963 00:45:07,835 --> 00:45:09,228 and just drinking beer and having fun. 964 00:45:09,358 --> 00:45:11,143 We're like-- we looked at each other just like, 965 00:45:12,231 --> 00:45:13,711 "Holy shit. 966 00:45:14,712 --> 00:45:16,365 We're just two idiots from Youngstown. 967 00:45:16,496 --> 00:45:19,194 And we just-- we're selling out a big city club. 968 00:45:19,325 --> 00:45:20,369 It's nuts." 969 00:45:20,500 --> 00:45:22,850 I remember six years ago 970 00:45:22,981 --> 00:45:26,027 when they said, "Oh, yeah. 971 00:45:26,158 --> 00:45:28,595 Gil Mantera's Party Dream. 972 00:45:28,726 --> 00:45:30,858 You guys are from Youngstown. 973 00:45:30,989 --> 00:45:33,556 What the fuck you gonna do? 974 00:45:33,687 --> 00:45:35,820 You can't play New York City. 975 00:45:35,950 --> 00:45:38,997 You can't play New York City." Well, you know what? 976 00:45:39,127 --> 00:45:42,348 We said, "Fuck you." We ate a lot of hot dogs. 977 00:45:42,478 --> 00:45:45,525 We talked to girls. We talked to robots. 978 00:45:45,655 --> 00:45:48,789 We talked to-- to science fiction novelists. 979 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:53,098 And I guess everything is working out. 980 00:45:53,228 --> 00:45:54,577 -You know what I mean? -[audience cheering] 981 00:45:55,535 --> 00:45:57,667 Yeah. 982 00:45:57,798 --> 00:46:02,890 ♪ 983 00:46:04,065 --> 00:46:06,589 [upbeat synth-rock music] 984 00:46:30,396 --> 00:46:32,920 ♪ I only want justice ♪ 985 00:46:33,051 --> 00:46:36,445 ♪ I only want equality ♪ 986 00:46:36,576 --> 00:46:38,665 ♪ Can you dig that? ♪ 987 00:46:38,796 --> 00:46:40,667 ♪ Come dance with me ♪ 988 00:46:42,582 --> 00:46:45,193 ♪ I only want justice ♪ 989 00:46:45,324 --> 00:46:48,327 ♪ I only want equality ♪ 990 00:46:48,457 --> 00:46:50,242 ♪ Can you dig that? ♪ 991 00:46:50,372 --> 00:46:52,853 ♪ Come dance with me ♪ 992 00:46:52,984 --> 00:46:54,072 [interviewer] In March of 2006, you guys 993 00:46:54,202 --> 00:46:55,682 got voted Best Live Band 994 00:46:55,813 --> 00:46:57,858 at South by Southwest, by The Village Voice. 995 00:46:57,989 --> 00:47:00,208 What do you remember about that experience in particular? 996 00:47:00,339 --> 00:47:01,775 [Richie] It was exciting, 997 00:47:01,906 --> 00:47:03,472 you know, you heard about South by Southwest. 998 00:47:03,603 --> 00:47:06,040 You know, in the music biz, musical thing. 999 00:47:06,867 --> 00:47:08,303 We went there and we murdered it. 1000 00:47:08,434 --> 00:47:10,131 Murdered it pretty hard. 1001 00:47:10,262 --> 00:47:12,307 I do remember it-- we read that, it was like, you know, 1002 00:47:12,438 --> 00:47:15,397 like, thousands of bands play that and we played 1003 00:47:15,528 --> 00:47:17,443 South by Southwest three times. 1004 00:47:17,573 --> 00:47:18,836 Like, always had good shows. 1005 00:47:21,621 --> 00:47:24,102 ♪ I only want justice ♪ 1006 00:47:24,232 --> 00:47:27,627 ♪ I only want equality ♪ 1007 00:47:27,757 --> 00:47:29,803 ♪ Can you dig that? ♪ 1008 00:47:29,934 --> 00:47:32,284 ♪ Come dance with me ♪ 1009 00:47:33,633 --> 00:47:36,462 ♪ I only want justice ♪ 1010 00:47:36,592 --> 00:47:39,682 ♪ I only want equality ♪ 1011 00:47:39,813 --> 00:47:42,990 ♪ Can you dig that? ♪ 1012 00:47:46,167 --> 00:47:48,691 ♪ So, who cares ♪ 1013 00:47:48,822 --> 00:47:50,868 ♪ If anybody else ♪ 1014 00:47:50,998 --> 00:47:54,915 ♪ Has anything else worth living for? ♪ 1015 00:47:55,046 --> 00:47:58,049 ♪ So, I'd rather fight than die ♪ 1016 00:47:58,179 --> 00:48:02,096 ♪ Or maybe fight plus die a couple times ♪ 1017 00:48:02,227 --> 00:48:08,886 ♪ Before I give up what I've been leaving now ♪ 1018 00:48:09,016 --> 00:48:13,716 ♪ Is anyone truly happy? ♪ 1019 00:48:13,847 --> 00:48:19,766 ♪ 1020 00:48:26,947 --> 00:48:30,646 [crowd applause] 1021 00:48:31,691 --> 00:48:33,301 Um, they did Warped Tour 1022 00:48:34,041 --> 00:48:36,087 in I want to say summer of 2008. 1023 00:48:37,001 --> 00:48:39,873 Um, the Warped Tour people were-- 1024 00:48:40,004 --> 00:48:42,180 were fan-- were fans of Party Dream 1025 00:48:42,310 --> 00:48:44,182 and they were really proactive 1026 00:48:44,312 --> 00:48:45,661 in trying to book the band 1027 00:48:45,792 --> 00:48:47,315 on the tour. 1028 00:48:47,446 --> 00:48:49,622 And I think they wanted to sort of add some spice 1029 00:48:49,752 --> 00:48:52,755 to the aesthetic of Warp Tour, because a lot of their fans 1030 00:48:52,886 --> 00:48:55,628 kind of come from the same world. 1031 00:48:55,758 --> 00:48:59,284 ♪ They say it takes a man a lifetime to understand ♪ 1032 00:48:59,414 --> 00:49:02,809 ♪ How it really feels to go through hell without a plan ♪ 1033 00:49:02,940 --> 00:49:05,855 ♪ Is it the wild side that's got a hold on me ♪ 1034 00:49:05,986 --> 00:49:09,294 ♪ Or just the brain child of my insanity, yeah ♪ 1035 00:49:09,424 --> 00:49:10,643 [Richie] I can talk for, like, an hour 1036 00:49:10,773 --> 00:49:11,818 about Warped Tour itself. 1037 00:49:11,949 --> 00:49:14,168 It was-- it was so many things. 1038 00:49:14,299 --> 00:49:16,214 It was so bizarre, it was so wild. 1039 00:49:16,344 --> 00:49:17,824 It sucked a lot. And it was-- 1040 00:49:17,955 --> 00:49:20,435 There are so many great things that happened. 1041 00:49:20,566 --> 00:49:23,047 [Andrew] At first, it was really difficult for them 1042 00:49:23,177 --> 00:49:25,353 to kind of wrap their heads around it and sort of-- 1043 00:49:25,484 --> 00:49:28,922 And we were very close to canceling the tour. 1044 00:49:29,053 --> 00:49:30,315 [Richie] We did meet a lot of people 1045 00:49:30,445 --> 00:49:32,143 and met a lot of fans. 1046 00:49:32,273 --> 00:49:36,364 Um, more so, I guess the-- the bands that played there, 1047 00:49:36,495 --> 00:49:38,236 you know, when they found out about us, it was just like, 1048 00:49:38,366 --> 00:49:40,325 "Whoa, these guys are insane." 1049 00:49:40,455 --> 00:49:42,283 You know, even Katy Perry came up and said, 1050 00:49:42,414 --> 00:49:43,981 "Like, ah, that was-- that was cool," you know? 1051 00:49:45,286 --> 00:49:47,723 ♪ I don't know why I love you ♪ 1052 00:49:47,854 --> 00:49:49,421 ♪ I don't know why ♪ 1053 00:49:49,551 --> 00:49:51,205 ♪ I don't know why I love you ♪ 1054 00:49:51,336 --> 00:49:52,772 ♪ I never know why ♪ 1055 00:49:52,902 --> 00:49:54,643 ♪ I don't know why I love you ♪ 1056 00:49:54,774 --> 00:49:56,167 ♪ I don't know why ♪ 1057 00:49:56,297 --> 00:49:57,733 ♪ I don't know why I love you ♪ 1058 00:49:57,864 --> 00:49:59,039 ♪ I'm out ♪ 1059 00:50:04,175 --> 00:50:07,395 We had so many instances where it's going to happen, 1060 00:50:07,526 --> 00:50:10,790 like, "Oh shit, we've got this person 1061 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,661 behind us, backing us. 1062 00:50:12,792 --> 00:50:14,533 This is going to happen, this is going to happen." 1063 00:50:14,663 --> 00:50:17,362 And every time it just-- it fell through. 1064 00:50:17,492 --> 00:50:21,322 [interviewer] 1065 00:50:21,453 --> 00:50:23,020 Well, at the time there was a lot of shit 1066 00:50:23,150 --> 00:50:24,456 going down with that. 1067 00:50:24,586 --> 00:50:26,371 They, uh-- I don't know. 1068 00:50:26,501 --> 00:50:30,201 Dude's dog was all fucked up on coke and steroids and shit. 1069 00:50:30,331 --> 00:50:32,986 Just, like, I saw that and we basically freaked 1070 00:50:33,117 --> 00:50:35,249 and said, "We don't want any part of this." 1071 00:50:36,468 --> 00:50:37,773 [interviewer] 1072 00:50:38,818 --> 00:50:39,862 I don't know. 1073 00:50:39,993 --> 00:50:41,212 They didn't want us. 1074 00:50:42,517 --> 00:50:43,649 Oh, God. 1075 00:50:44,998 --> 00:50:47,348 We didn't like the business aspect at all. 1076 00:50:47,479 --> 00:50:50,177 I mean, like-- I didn't-- I was more the business man, 1077 00:50:50,308 --> 00:50:52,223 and I don't like that. 1078 00:50:52,353 --> 00:50:54,225 My brother definitely, like, 1079 00:50:54,355 --> 00:50:56,227 should never have any part of that. 1080 00:50:56,357 --> 00:50:57,750 Doing all the business stuff, too, 1081 00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,317 and trying to make all these connections, 1082 00:50:59,447 --> 00:51:00,883 it's kind of like-- that drains you so much 1083 00:51:01,014 --> 00:51:02,798 that you don't have enough time or energy. 1084 00:51:02,929 --> 00:51:04,583 Like, you have the time, but the energy 1085 00:51:04,713 --> 00:51:06,672 to actually put it into creating your stuff, 1086 00:51:06,802 --> 00:51:08,500 it's just-- it's dwindled. 1087 00:51:08,630 --> 00:51:11,068 I don't know. I stopped caring, you know, a little bit. 1088 00:51:12,373 --> 00:51:13,722 About creating anything. 1089 00:51:13,853 --> 00:51:15,159 'Cause I wasn't creating anything. 1090 00:51:15,289 --> 00:51:16,551 I was letting my brother do everything. 1091 00:51:16,682 --> 00:51:18,336 He did a lot of the work. 1092 00:51:18,466 --> 00:51:21,817 And then at some point, he was doing so much of the work 1093 00:51:22,644 --> 00:51:24,342 that he got very, uh-- 1094 00:51:25,256 --> 00:51:26,648 He wanted everything his way. 1095 00:51:34,003 --> 00:51:35,309 [Richie speaking indistinctly] 1096 00:51:43,274 --> 00:51:45,406 [Richie] Almost ruined our show in our last half. 1097 00:51:57,114 --> 00:51:59,420 [Richie] Do we have any kind of schedule for Sunday? 1098 00:52:08,864 --> 00:52:11,302 My brother and I have some kind of vibes 1099 00:52:11,432 --> 00:52:12,912 that we had some bad Chipotle. 1100 00:52:13,042 --> 00:52:14,870 [crowd cheers] 1101 00:52:15,001 --> 00:52:17,308 It might affect the performance. 1102 00:52:17,438 --> 00:52:21,573 [upbeat synth-pop music] 1103 00:52:31,670 --> 00:52:35,369 ♪ There was a girl that I once knew ♪ 1104 00:52:35,500 --> 00:52:38,677 ♪ With hair of blonde and eyes of blue ♪ 1105 00:52:38,807 --> 00:52:42,855 ♪ I feel a love that's waiting for me ♪ 1106 00:52:45,771 --> 00:52:49,601 ♪ I own a place with her inside ♪ 1107 00:52:49,731 --> 00:52:53,126 ♪ I can't deny even if I tried ♪ 1108 00:52:53,257 --> 00:52:57,174 ♪ Although sometimes I feel so lonely ♪ 1109 00:52:59,915 --> 00:53:03,397 ♪ Just hear me on the beat alone ♪ 1110 00:53:03,528 --> 00:53:06,705 ♪ With someone you're always thinking of ♪ 1111 00:53:06,835 --> 00:53:10,448 ♪ Just hear me on the beat alone ♪ 1112 00:53:10,578 --> 00:53:13,712 ♪ With someone you're always dreaming of ♪ 1113 00:53:16,845 --> 00:53:18,717 [Tony] I think they were really just kind of sick of, like, 1114 00:53:18,847 --> 00:53:21,154 being like, "Nobody takes us seriously. 1115 00:53:21,285 --> 00:53:23,156 Like, nobody thinks what we're doing is slick. 1116 00:53:23,287 --> 00:53:25,593 Or if anything, they just think we're a couple goofballs," 1117 00:53:25,724 --> 00:53:27,204 but obviously that's not the case. 1118 00:53:27,334 --> 00:53:28,988 Like, there were a lot of people that thought 1119 00:53:29,118 --> 00:53:30,946 more of them, but in general, 1120 00:53:31,077 --> 00:53:32,339 like, they weren't receiving, I think, 1121 00:53:32,470 --> 00:53:34,646 the kind of support they wanted to. 1122 00:53:34,776 --> 00:53:37,170 So, I think that adding drums 1123 00:53:37,301 --> 00:53:40,347 was a way for them to legitimatize, 1124 00:53:40,478 --> 00:53:42,784 uh, you know, that-- their-- their music in a way 1125 00:53:42,915 --> 00:53:44,960 that like made it-- made them feel 1126 00:53:45,091 --> 00:53:46,745 a little better about what they're doing. 1127 00:53:46,875 --> 00:53:49,226 [Don] Gil was the-- the catalyst behind getting Tony. 1128 00:53:49,356 --> 00:53:51,315 He asked him and he did it. 1129 00:53:51,445 --> 00:53:52,881 So, that was all Gil's idea, 1130 00:53:53,012 --> 00:53:54,492 getting live drums, and I loved it, 1131 00:53:54,622 --> 00:53:56,668 I loved having Tony playing drums. 1132 00:53:56,798 --> 00:53:59,236 ♪ I meet the drummer, I heard he's from Pittsburgh ♪ 1133 00:53:59,366 --> 00:54:00,933 ♪ I heard he's in a band, Zombie ♪ 1134 00:54:01,063 --> 00:54:03,849 ♪ So, fuck you, Tony, fuck you ♪ 1135 00:54:03,979 --> 00:54:06,547 Because of this asshole behind the drums, 1136 00:54:06,678 --> 00:54:09,811 I didn't get a drummer pussy on this five-week tour. 1137 00:54:09,942 --> 00:54:11,683 You fucking freak. 1138 00:54:11,813 --> 00:54:13,424 I don't wanna talk about you anymore 1139 00:54:13,554 --> 00:54:15,121 because you're stealing-- 1140 00:54:15,252 --> 00:54:17,602 you're stealing precious limelight from me. 1141 00:54:17,732 --> 00:54:20,126 You stupid-ass ho. 1142 00:54:20,257 --> 00:54:23,738 But we still love Tony. 1143 00:54:23,869 --> 00:54:26,306 We still do love Tony. 1144 00:54:26,437 --> 00:54:28,917 First three shows he did with Tony were huge. 1145 00:54:29,048 --> 00:54:31,137 Sold out, and he's like, "Oh, yeah, cool." 1146 00:54:32,051 --> 00:54:34,662 My first show with them was a sold-out show 1147 00:54:34,793 --> 00:54:36,185 at the Knitting Factory in New York, 1148 00:54:36,316 --> 00:54:37,796 and it was-- it was crazy. 1149 00:54:37,926 --> 00:54:40,146 Their people were, like, losing their minds 1150 00:54:40,277 --> 00:54:43,236 and then, like, knew all the words to the songs. 1151 00:54:43,367 --> 00:54:44,672 And-- and it was sold out 1152 00:54:44,803 --> 00:54:46,195 and there was champagne in the room 1153 00:54:46,326 --> 00:54:47,719 and there were, like, girls everywhere. 1154 00:54:47,849 --> 00:54:49,373 I was like, "What the--" It was the first time 1155 00:54:49,503 --> 00:54:51,200 I had ever thought playing in a band, like, 1156 00:54:51,331 --> 00:54:53,638 "Oh, okay. Maybe-- 1157 00:54:53,768 --> 00:54:55,901 maybe this is going to bump up, like, another--" 1158 00:54:56,031 --> 00:54:58,033 There's all these levels you tour on, 1159 00:54:58,164 --> 00:55:01,298 and it just felt like maybe they can bump up. 1160 00:55:01,428 --> 00:55:04,518 The best show you'll ever see in your life, right here. 1161 00:55:04,649 --> 00:55:05,780 Gil Mantera. 1162 00:55:06,564 --> 00:55:10,350 Number one Goddammed college tour on the planet. 1163 00:55:10,481 --> 00:55:12,265 ♪ Don't think, don't breathe ♪ 1164 00:55:12,396 --> 00:55:15,094 ♪ Don't move, don't step out of line ♪ 1165 00:55:17,879 --> 00:55:19,881 ♪ You live in us ♪ 1166 00:55:20,012 --> 00:55:23,363 ♪ We need this not to die ♪ 1167 00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:30,327 ♪ And when the sun sets, still we'll have all day ♪ 1168 00:55:32,981 --> 00:55:37,725 ♪ And light the fire to burn it all away ♪ 1169 00:55:37,856 --> 00:55:42,904 ♪ 1170 00:55:56,265 --> 00:55:58,703 ♪ Leave it all behind ♪ 1171 00:55:58,833 --> 00:56:02,489 ♪ And we'll be in love tonight ♪ 1172 00:56:02,620 --> 00:56:06,580 ♪ When you leave it all behind ♪ 1173 00:56:06,711 --> 00:56:10,149 ♪ You don't have to say goodbye ♪ 1174 00:56:10,279 --> 00:56:13,892 ♪ Don't say goodbye, say goodbye ♪ 1175 00:56:14,022 --> 00:56:15,720 ♪ Say goodbye ♪ 1176 00:56:17,591 --> 00:56:21,552 ♪ Don't say goodbye, say goodbye ♪ 1177 00:56:21,682 --> 00:56:23,728 ♪ Say goodbye ♪ 1178 00:56:27,471 --> 00:56:28,994 [crowd applause] 1179 00:56:29,124 --> 00:56:30,865 I do have a feeling we thought we were 1180 00:56:30,996 --> 00:56:32,780 going to take over the world at that point. 1181 00:56:33,694 --> 00:56:36,958 That's-- that's probably were our expectations. 1182 00:56:37,089 --> 00:56:39,308 And those expectations were not met. 1183 00:56:40,179 --> 00:56:42,137 [interviewer] Okay, so there was a four-year gap 1184 00:56:42,268 --> 00:56:45,184 between the Blood Songs album and the Dreamscapealbum. 1185 00:56:45,314 --> 00:56:47,360 Why did it take so long to get Dreamscapeout? 1186 00:56:47,491 --> 00:56:49,231 Uh, we were probably were just busy touring, 1187 00:56:49,362 --> 00:56:51,146 you know, understanding what that was all about. 1188 00:56:51,712 --> 00:56:53,627 We-- we definitely wanted-- 1189 00:56:53,758 --> 00:56:56,151 I think ultimately we wanted to do an album a year, 1190 00:56:56,282 --> 00:56:57,936 you know, like, brand new album each year. 1191 00:56:58,066 --> 00:56:59,546 I mean, obviously it didn't happen. 1192 00:57:00,895 --> 00:57:02,984 -Did it really take that long? -[interviewer] Yeah. 1193 00:57:03,115 --> 00:57:05,117 I think Dreamscape, you know-- I mean, 1194 00:57:05,247 --> 00:57:06,901 it was more of a contrived thing. And that was Glen. 1195 00:57:07,032 --> 00:57:08,294 That was his vision. 1196 00:57:08,425 --> 00:57:09,861 And as-- it wasn't mine. 1197 00:57:09,991 --> 00:57:11,689 Prior to me joining the band, 1198 00:57:11,819 --> 00:57:13,865 Glen wrote the music and Richie was like the lyricist. 1199 00:57:13,995 --> 00:57:16,302 But then, by the time Dreamscape came, 1200 00:57:16,433 --> 00:57:18,609 Glen was, like, writing lyrics and music. 1201 00:57:18,739 --> 00:57:20,132 Any time I tried to add something, like, 1202 00:57:20,262 --> 00:57:21,960 "Oh, that sounds too American Idol." 1203 00:57:22,090 --> 00:57:23,657 Like, jeez. 1204 00:57:23,788 --> 00:57:25,180 You know, like, any time I'm trying to do something 1205 00:57:25,311 --> 00:57:26,878 that's just-- that's just me. 1206 00:57:27,008 --> 00:57:31,404 The music, while becoming more involved, wasn't fun. 1207 00:57:31,535 --> 00:57:33,754 Like, there was an element of fun that wasn't there. 1208 00:57:33,885 --> 00:57:36,104 If I were to put myself now back in that situation, 1209 00:57:36,235 --> 00:57:38,542 I would have taken more control and said, 1210 00:57:38,672 --> 00:57:40,544 "You're out of your fucking mind." 1211 00:57:40,674 --> 00:57:43,503 Like, what got us to this point is this dichotomy. 1212 00:57:43,634 --> 00:57:46,680 You know, like, no one has an album that sounds like this. 1213 00:57:46,811 --> 00:57:48,508 I mean, I really like what he's done. 1214 00:57:48,639 --> 00:57:50,118 Like, the music's great, I love the way the music sounds. 1215 00:57:50,249 --> 00:57:51,555 If we could produce that one well, 1216 00:57:51,685 --> 00:57:53,687 and I could redo the vocals, 1217 00:57:53,818 --> 00:57:55,167 I wouldn't make it dry. 1218 00:57:55,297 --> 00:57:56,560 I would make it me, rather than, like, 1219 00:57:56,690 --> 00:57:58,344 Glen's version of what it should be. 1220 00:57:58,475 --> 00:58:00,128 You know, if we had somebody in our corner 1221 00:58:00,259 --> 00:58:01,652 that was just like, 1222 00:58:01,782 --> 00:58:03,741 "I know what this other album's about," 1223 00:58:03,871 --> 00:58:07,353 and I-- I have an idea of what people really liked, 1224 00:58:07,484 --> 00:58:09,660 we could have kind of, like, interjected that 1225 00:58:09,790 --> 00:58:11,792 and we would have had somebody saying, 1226 00:58:11,923 --> 00:58:13,707 "Put out some fucking videos." 1227 00:58:13,838 --> 00:58:15,840 Because we're just, like, "Uh, videos, who cares?" 1228 00:58:15,970 --> 00:58:21,498 ♪ 1229 00:58:32,030 --> 00:58:35,555 ♪ Leaving all my love for you tonight ♪ 1230 00:58:35,686 --> 00:58:39,080 ♪ The feeling inside is out of sight ♪ 1231 00:58:39,211 --> 00:58:42,997 ♪ I'll tell you what I want, if that's all right ♪ 1232 00:58:43,128 --> 00:58:44,477 ♪ That's all right ♪ 1233 00:58:44,608 --> 00:58:46,131 We always felt we had so many opportunities 1234 00:58:46,261 --> 00:58:48,263 and we felt we were so close to the next tier. 1235 00:58:48,394 --> 00:58:50,962 And because it was a business and because we weren't-- 1236 00:58:51,092 --> 00:58:53,660 we still had financial stresses at home-- 1237 00:58:53,791 --> 00:58:55,183 we weren't making that much money-- 1238 00:58:55,749 --> 00:58:58,230 that definitely put a strain on the personal relationship. 1239 00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:02,364 Glen started to really kind of, like, brood and, like, 1240 00:59:02,495 --> 00:59:05,063 Richie and I would spend a lot of time, like, 1241 00:59:05,193 --> 00:59:08,632 maybe trying to, like, keep things, like, good, you know? 1242 00:59:08,762 --> 00:59:10,372 And there were a lot of, like, arguments 1243 00:59:10,503 --> 00:59:12,374 that would happen over, like, really little things. 1244 00:59:12,505 --> 00:59:14,202 We had some times where it's just like, 1245 00:59:15,334 --> 00:59:17,031 we're embarrassing the shit outta ourselves 1246 00:59:17,162 --> 00:59:18,816 in front of promoters at the end of the night, 1247 00:59:18,946 --> 00:59:22,428 just, like, screaming about absolutely nothing, 1248 00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:23,690 you know, at each other. 1249 00:59:24,517 --> 00:59:26,432 Stupid. Wow. 1250 00:59:27,172 --> 00:59:28,913 A lot of the things that happened between them 1251 00:59:29,043 --> 00:59:33,047 were just caused by the-- all the things 1252 00:59:33,178 --> 00:59:34,832 that happen when you're on the road. 1253 00:59:34,962 --> 00:59:37,530 You know, the things that you don't like about yourself 1254 00:59:37,661 --> 00:59:40,577 the most usually end up showing-- 1255 00:59:40,707 --> 00:59:42,535 you know, rearing their ugly heads. 1256 00:59:42,666 --> 00:59:44,232 [Richie] There were some really, really bad times. 1257 00:59:44,363 --> 00:59:46,495 And just really ugly times. 1258 00:59:46,626 --> 00:59:48,323 There were times when he was saying, 1259 00:59:48,454 --> 00:59:50,456 "I just don't know if I can do this anymore." 1260 00:59:50,587 --> 00:59:52,240 Forgot about those. 1261 00:59:52,371 --> 00:59:54,025 I mean, I wasn't really admitting it to myself 1262 00:59:54,155 --> 00:59:56,505 because that was my career and my identity 1263 00:59:56,636 --> 00:59:57,942 and something I loved to do. 1264 00:59:58,072 --> 01:00:00,466 So, I definitely wasn't letting the signs 1265 01:00:00,597 --> 01:00:02,729 affect my rational judgment about it. 1266 01:00:03,208 --> 01:00:04,296 Shit happens. 1267 01:00:04,426 --> 01:00:06,385 Just-- things fall a part 1268 01:00:06,515 --> 01:00:07,908 and you don't know how that-- how it happens. 1269 01:00:08,039 --> 01:00:09,083 But it just does. 1270 01:00:09,214 --> 01:00:10,432 [man] Holy fudge. 1271 01:00:11,390 --> 01:00:12,478 Ah, thanks. 1272 01:00:12,609 --> 01:00:14,132 Thanks for coming. 1273 01:00:14,262 --> 01:00:15,437 -What's been happening? -[Richie] I'll tell him. 1274 01:00:15,568 --> 01:00:17,309 Good to see you again. Howdy. 1275 01:00:17,439 --> 01:00:18,745 Good to see you, man. 1276 01:00:18,876 --> 01:00:21,052 Oh, shit. It's going wild tonight, man. 1277 01:00:21,748 --> 01:00:22,793 Oh, my. 1278 01:00:27,536 --> 01:00:29,538 [interviewer] If there is one thing you could go back 1279 01:00:29,669 --> 01:00:31,976 and change at any point along the way 1280 01:00:32,106 --> 01:00:34,326 of the band, what-- what would you go back and change? 1281 01:00:34,456 --> 01:00:35,632 I wish I'd just managed my time 1282 01:00:35,762 --> 01:00:37,503 and actually worked on-- on songs 1283 01:00:37,634 --> 01:00:39,636 and worked on playing and-- and all that. 1284 01:00:40,201 --> 01:00:42,551 I mean, this is now, I know all this shit now, 1285 01:00:42,682 --> 01:00:44,466 you know, like, know what we could have done. 1286 01:00:44,597 --> 01:00:46,512 I could've contributed in different ways, 1287 01:00:46,643 --> 01:00:49,689 even if it was just on a-- like a business-- 1288 01:00:49,820 --> 01:00:51,996 business level and getting other people interested. 1289 01:00:52,605 --> 01:00:54,433 [interviewer] Forget the music, forget the live shows. 1290 01:00:54,563 --> 01:00:57,828 Do you miss just the brotherly sense of being around Glen? 1291 01:00:57,958 --> 01:00:59,394 Yeah, yeah. 1292 01:00:59,525 --> 01:01:01,222 But it seems like those days were so far ago. 1293 01:01:01,353 --> 01:01:02,876 And then the last couple years of the band, 1294 01:01:03,007 --> 01:01:04,922 there wasn't-- that wasn't going on. 1295 01:01:05,052 --> 01:01:06,793 So, it's kind of hard to remember. 1296 01:01:06,924 --> 01:01:08,186 Like, wow, we used to just like, 1297 01:01:08,316 --> 01:01:09,970 kick it pretty hard. 1298 01:01:10,101 --> 01:01:11,580 We were just super tight. 1299 01:01:11,711 --> 01:01:13,060 So, yeah, it'd be great to just like, 1300 01:01:13,191 --> 01:01:15,149 take it back to those days and have fun. 1301 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:16,847 [interviewer] So, are you surprised at all 1302 01:01:16,977 --> 01:01:18,675 when you hear the fact that they haven't spoken-- 1303 01:01:18,805 --> 01:01:20,198 really spoken to each other in about four or five years 1304 01:01:20,328 --> 01:01:22,809 -at this point? -Uh, no. 1305 01:01:22,940 --> 01:01:24,463 They really haven't spoken in four years? 1306 01:01:24,593 --> 01:01:27,553 Um, not entirely. 1307 01:01:27,684 --> 01:01:29,990 Not at all. Not at all. 1308 01:01:30,121 --> 01:01:31,209 I don't understand 1309 01:01:31,339 --> 01:01:32,384 why they haven't talked, actually. 1310 01:01:32,514 --> 01:01:34,125 They're stubborn motherfuckers. 1311 01:01:34,255 --> 01:01:36,649 Glenn is-- is definitely consistent. 1312 01:01:36,780 --> 01:01:39,304 Whether it-- it's with the band 1313 01:01:39,434 --> 01:01:43,221 or not talking with fucking brother for six years. 1314 01:01:43,351 --> 01:01:45,049 [laughing] 1315 01:01:45,179 --> 01:01:47,007 One phone call from Richie could have ended 1316 01:01:47,138 --> 01:01:48,705 this whole fucking thing, too. 1317 01:01:48,835 --> 01:01:52,360 They-- they've both been, uh, party to it, for sure. 1318 01:01:52,491 --> 01:01:54,232 Party-- Party. Dream. 1319 01:01:54,362 --> 01:01:55,755 Oh, my God, guys. 1320 01:01:55,886 --> 01:01:57,322 [interviewer] As we said in the first email 1321 01:01:57,452 --> 01:02:00,934 is, uh-- we sent to Gil a little while back 1322 01:02:01,065 --> 01:02:03,067 and we weren't sure if we were ever going to hear from him. 1323 01:02:03,197 --> 01:02:05,765 And we did. Uh, and here's the response. 1324 01:02:05,896 --> 01:02:07,854 Yeah, I know I told you guys 1325 01:02:07,985 --> 01:02:09,203 not to, like, get your hopes up, 1326 01:02:09,334 --> 01:02:10,857 but, like, you know? 1327 01:02:10,988 --> 01:02:11,989 [interviewer] We got a response pretty quickly. 1328 01:02:12,119 --> 01:02:13,425 You never know. 1329 01:02:13,555 --> 01:02:14,731 I'm gonna... 1330 01:02:16,384 --> 01:02:18,212 read this right now. 1331 01:02:18,343 --> 01:02:19,953 I'm definitely a little nervous about it, but here it goes. 1332 01:02:20,084 --> 01:02:21,868 "I'm flattered you guys are going to put your time, 1333 01:02:21,999 --> 01:02:23,478 energy and resource in doing a documentary 1334 01:02:23,609 --> 01:02:25,045 on my brother and I. 1335 01:02:25,176 --> 01:02:26,220 Thank you for all the nice things you've said 1336 01:02:26,351 --> 01:02:28,005 and good intentions. 1337 01:02:28,135 --> 01:02:30,181 Unfortunately, I'm not interested in being involved. 1338 01:02:30,311 --> 01:02:33,358 Ultimately, I'm more vested in the present than the past. 1339 01:02:33,488 --> 01:02:36,187 It was fun until it wasn't, and that's why I left it. 1340 01:02:36,317 --> 01:02:37,710 Anyway, thanks for getting in touch. 1341 01:02:37,841 --> 01:02:39,146 It does mean a lot that people care. 1342 01:02:39,277 --> 01:02:40,452 Take care, Glen." 1343 01:02:41,018 --> 01:02:43,542 Yeah, I-- I guess that's what I would expect. 1344 01:02:43,672 --> 01:02:45,805 Uh, yeah. 1345 01:02:46,545 --> 01:02:47,633 That's what I would-- 1346 01:02:48,460 --> 01:02:50,027 That's what I would guess. 1347 01:02:50,157 --> 01:02:51,855 Like, it-- it was, like, a nice email, 1348 01:02:51,985 --> 01:02:53,770 but I-- I definitely thought he probably 1349 01:02:53,900 --> 01:02:55,336 wouldn't want to be involved. 1350 01:02:55,467 --> 01:02:57,512 [interviewer] Was there, like, a last final day 1351 01:02:57,643 --> 01:03:00,124 where this is the last time I talked to him or-- 1352 01:03:00,254 --> 01:03:02,517 No, I didn't know he was going to California at all. 1353 01:03:02,648 --> 01:03:05,303 I didn't find out until he was actually there, 1354 01:03:05,433 --> 01:03:07,827 'cause, uh, I hit up my friend Lord Grunge 1355 01:03:07,958 --> 01:03:09,046 and said, "Hey. 1356 01:03:10,177 --> 01:03:11,962 I don't have anything to do this weekend, I'm free. 1357 01:03:12,092 --> 01:03:13,833 I'd love to come kick it with you and my brother." 1358 01:03:13,964 --> 01:03:15,356 And he's just like, "Yeah. 1359 01:03:15,487 --> 01:03:17,576 He-- he left for LA, like, a month ago." 1360 01:03:17,706 --> 01:03:19,796 I'm like, "Oh." 1361 01:03:19,926 --> 01:03:21,928 Like, I didn't know that was happening. 1362 01:03:22,059 --> 01:03:24,191 There was, like, no definite end. 1363 01:03:24,322 --> 01:03:26,019 It just kind-- I think a tour ended 1364 01:03:26,150 --> 01:03:27,891 and that was just kind of it. 1365 01:03:28,021 --> 01:03:29,806 I was going to say, man, 1366 01:03:29,936 --> 01:03:33,810 a lot of shit just blew up at the same time. 1367 01:03:33,940 --> 01:03:36,203 Like, that was my career, so when it ended-- 1368 01:03:36,334 --> 01:03:39,163 and it ended abruptly, and I didn't have a warning. 1369 01:03:39,293 --> 01:03:42,470 It wasn't like, "Hey man, you've got, like, three-- 1370 01:03:42,601 --> 01:03:45,517 three months, six months to figure out a new career." 1371 01:03:45,647 --> 01:03:48,085 No, it just ended, like, "Hey, it's done." 1372 01:03:48,215 --> 01:03:52,393 And then, I have a little girl, I got a house. 1373 01:03:53,438 --> 01:03:55,396 You know, I don't really feel like losing a house 1374 01:03:55,527 --> 01:03:56,920 and doing all that shit. 1375 01:03:57,050 --> 01:03:58,399 And then on top of that, I lost my identity. 1376 01:03:58,530 --> 01:03:59,574 That was, like, a huge part. 1377 01:03:59,705 --> 01:04:01,141 Like, I was Ultimate Donny. 1378 01:04:01,272 --> 01:04:02,969 Like, that's what-- Ultimate fucking Donny. 1379 01:04:03,100 --> 01:04:05,885 And then all of a sudden, I'm not Ultimate Donny anymore. 1380 01:04:06,016 --> 01:04:09,584 I'm just a fucking loser just doing loser shit. 1381 01:04:11,151 --> 01:04:12,239 And there you have it. 1382 01:04:17,070 --> 01:04:19,725 It's been way more difficult for Richie 1383 01:04:19,856 --> 01:04:25,209 to not have the Party Dream be an active thing in his life 1384 01:04:25,339 --> 01:04:26,906 than it has for Glen. 1385 01:04:27,037 --> 01:04:28,603 'Cause Glen just kind of will do his own thing and-- 1386 01:04:28,734 --> 01:04:30,388 and is fine with that. 1387 01:04:31,432 --> 01:04:35,523 Richie, on the other hand, is like-- that was-- 1388 01:04:35,654 --> 01:04:36,785 that was-- that was his thing. 1389 01:04:36,916 --> 01:04:39,484 Um, yeah. I know he-- 1390 01:04:39,614 --> 01:04:41,268 he'd probably love nothing more than to, like, 1391 01:04:41,399 --> 01:04:44,010 be able to get out on stage and do that again. 1392 01:04:44,881 --> 01:04:46,404 [interviewer] Is there anything that can ever 1393 01:04:46,534 --> 01:04:48,885 replace that feeling of being Ultimate Donny? 1394 01:04:51,191 --> 01:04:52,801 No, I mean, I'm sure there are things 1395 01:04:52,932 --> 01:04:54,934 that are slightly better, maybe. 1396 01:04:55,065 --> 01:04:57,937 But that-- that was a very, 1397 01:04:58,068 --> 01:04:59,808 very particular thing. 1398 01:04:59,939 --> 01:05:01,158 And I don't think there's anything that could 1399 01:05:01,288 --> 01:05:03,464 replace that one, exactly. 1400 01:05:05,814 --> 01:05:09,862 [traffic din] 1401 01:05:14,780 --> 01:05:16,347 [drums playing] 1402 01:05:23,049 --> 01:05:26,792 [gentle, dreamy music] 1403 01:05:50,729 --> 01:05:54,689 [audience applause] 1404 01:05:55,995 --> 01:05:58,128 I joined Sam Goodwill 'cause Sam, 1405 01:05:59,129 --> 01:06:00,347 he needed someone to play guitar. 1406 01:06:00,478 --> 01:06:01,958 He had two months to get somebody 1407 01:06:02,088 --> 01:06:04,047 to know all the songs before he did a tour 1408 01:06:04,177 --> 01:06:06,266 'cause his guitarist broke his hand. 1409 01:06:06,397 --> 01:06:07,659 Something like that. So, I'm like, "All right." 1410 01:06:08,442 --> 01:06:11,619 So, at that point, yeah, I focused on that. 1411 01:06:12,969 --> 01:06:14,492 Just got it back. 1412 01:06:14,622 --> 01:06:15,884 I don't know how long it takes to shake that, 1413 01:06:16,015 --> 01:06:17,712 like, identity crisis thing. 1414 01:06:17,843 --> 01:06:19,453 It didn't take long 'cause that wasn't the main thing. 1415 01:06:19,584 --> 01:06:21,107 The main thing is just, like, I need to provide for myself 1416 01:06:21,238 --> 01:06:23,022 and-- and my daughter, you know, so... 1417 01:06:23,153 --> 01:06:24,719 If anything, I got over it quickly. 1418 01:06:24,850 --> 01:06:28,419 It's like, "Oh, whatever. I'm old now. 1419 01:06:28,549 --> 01:06:29,986 I'm no longer Ultimate Donny." 1420 01:06:30,116 --> 01:06:32,031 Like, I was like, "Who gives a shit? Fuck it. 1421 01:06:32,162 --> 01:06:35,078 Just let me make a-- enough money to survive and I'm fine." 1422 01:06:35,208 --> 01:06:37,645 He's got, like, raw talent. 1423 01:06:37,776 --> 01:06:41,127 Like, really-- He can pick out any note to sing. 1424 01:06:41,258 --> 01:06:43,695 Like, he rewrote a lot of the harmonies that-- 1425 01:06:43,825 --> 01:06:45,479 we were-- were on the record that we were playing live. 1426 01:06:45,610 --> 01:06:48,526 And I wish I could re-record the record, you know. 1427 01:06:48,656 --> 01:06:50,310 Because, uh, it's just, a lot of the stuff 1428 01:06:50,441 --> 01:06:54,532 that he's brought to the table is, uh-- is a lot-- 1429 01:06:54,662 --> 01:06:56,664 In my-- in my opinion, like, it's a lot better 1430 01:06:56,795 --> 01:06:58,753 than what we actually recorded. 1431 01:06:58,884 --> 01:07:04,890 ♪ Never underestimate the power of a broken heart ♪ 1432 01:07:06,065 --> 01:07:07,501 [interviewer] 1433 01:07:10,156 --> 01:07:11,157 [interviewer] 1434 01:07:11,288 --> 01:07:12,332 Yeah. 1435 01:07:17,555 --> 01:07:24,344 ♪ 1436 01:07:31,003 --> 01:07:34,789 [indistinct chatter] 1437 01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:36,487 Oh, we're going to make the popsicles. 1438 01:07:36,617 --> 01:07:39,446 -We're making popsicles. -[Richie] Good idea. 1439 01:07:39,577 --> 01:07:41,057 [Aspasia] We couldn't find where the sticks were. 1440 01:07:41,187 --> 01:07:42,188 [Richie] Here's the good juice. 1441 01:07:42,319 --> 01:07:45,104 The good juice? Juice. 1442 01:07:45,235 --> 01:07:46,453 [Richie] Oh, here we go. 1443 01:07:46,584 --> 01:07:48,542 Oh, there's the magic sticks. 1444 01:07:48,673 --> 01:07:49,891 -[Richie] The magic sticks. -Do you love it? 1445 01:07:50,022 --> 01:07:51,154 I love it. 1446 01:07:51,632 --> 01:07:54,809 -Sticks. Sticks. -[Richie] Okay. 1447 01:07:54,940 --> 01:07:56,855 [Aspasia] I don't know anything about this. 1448 01:07:56,985 --> 01:07:58,639 I should have told you earlier. 1449 01:07:58,770 --> 01:08:00,424 [interviewer] You really dropped the ball, Richie. 1450 01:08:00,554 --> 01:08:02,469 [Aspasia] You have to put it in-- back in the freezer. 1451 01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:03,949 [Ritchie] Right. There you go. 1452 01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:05,429 [interviewer] All right, No pressure. 1453 01:08:07,866 --> 01:08:08,997 [arrow thuds] 1454 01:08:09,128 --> 01:08:10,825 -[Richie] Nice. -[man] Nice. 1455 01:08:10,956 --> 01:08:12,871 -[interviewer] On the money. -[girl] How cool was that? 1456 01:08:14,786 --> 01:08:16,527 [interviewer] What's going on here? 1457 01:08:16,657 --> 01:08:17,919 This seems like domestic bliss 1458 01:08:18,050 --> 01:08:19,965 with the kitty and the-- and the lady. 1459 01:08:20,096 --> 01:08:22,054 -Oh, yeah. -[interviewer] And the tattoos? 1460 01:08:22,185 --> 01:08:23,621 -[Richie] Hell, yeah. -Yeah, did-- 1461 01:08:23,751 --> 01:08:26,058 So, did you guys, uh, have an announcement 1462 01:08:26,189 --> 01:08:27,712 you'd like to repeat that you maybe told us yesterday 1463 01:08:27,842 --> 01:08:29,235 -that we didn't get on film? -[chuckling] 1464 01:08:29,366 --> 01:08:30,889 Oh, this wasn't on film. 1465 01:08:31,498 --> 01:08:32,760 What's the-- what's the-- 1466 01:08:32,891 --> 01:08:33,935 [interviewer] What's the big news? 1467 01:08:35,633 --> 01:08:37,765 We decided that we're going get married. 1468 01:08:37,896 --> 01:08:39,550 [interviewer] What? 1469 01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,074 We decided that we're-- we're going to get married. 1470 01:08:43,684 --> 01:08:45,512 -Is that true? -Yes. Yes, it's true. 1471 01:08:45,643 --> 01:08:47,862 All right. Congratulations. 1472 01:08:47,993 --> 01:08:49,516 Yeah. So, no one really-- No one knows this. 1473 01:08:49,647 --> 01:08:51,214 Yeah. No one knows this. 1474 01:08:51,344 --> 01:08:52,171 [interviewer] When-- When do you tell everybody? 1475 01:08:52,302 --> 01:08:53,433 Over the holidays. 1476 01:08:54,173 --> 01:08:55,653 [interviewer] Including-- 1477 01:08:55,783 --> 01:08:57,220 [interviewer 2] Is there somebody you might 1478 01:08:57,350 --> 01:08:58,960 -want to tell? -[man] Make a phone call to? 1479 01:09:00,005 --> 01:09:01,398 Uh... 1480 01:09:01,528 --> 01:09:02,660 Uh-oh. 1481 01:09:02,790 --> 01:09:05,097 -What? -[laughing] 1482 01:09:05,228 --> 01:09:07,055 -[interviewer] And say it. -That's a wrap. 1483 01:09:12,104 --> 01:09:14,280 [interviewer] All right, so it's been about three years 1484 01:09:14,411 --> 01:09:16,108 since we were last here and you got married-- 1485 01:09:16,239 --> 01:09:17,936 Mm-Hmm. -in the interim. 1486 01:09:18,066 --> 01:09:19,416 -That's true. -[interviewer] You have started 1487 01:09:19,546 --> 01:09:22,375 a brewery called Penguin City. 1488 01:09:22,506 --> 01:09:23,681 Let me tell you a little bit 1489 01:09:23,811 --> 01:09:25,509 about Penguin City Brewing Company. 1490 01:09:25,639 --> 01:09:27,772 One night, my wife, Aspasia and I, 1491 01:09:27,902 --> 01:09:30,122 we were just talking about this city, 1492 01:09:30,253 --> 01:09:32,080 this area doesn't have a beer 1493 01:09:32,211 --> 01:09:33,604 that we can identify with. 1494 01:09:33,734 --> 01:09:35,083 Thought it'd just be a really good idea. 1495 01:09:35,214 --> 01:09:36,955 Came up with the name Penguin City. 1496 01:09:37,085 --> 01:09:38,217 And from there, we thought 1497 01:09:38,348 --> 01:09:39,479 that name was too good to waste. 1498 01:09:40,001 --> 01:09:42,787 I know that he cannot work 1499 01:09:42,917 --> 01:09:44,223 a 9:00 to 5:00 job-- 1500 01:09:44,354 --> 01:09:45,703 -It's hard. -and be happy. 1501 01:09:45,833 --> 01:09:47,270 -Oh, that's true. -Not after Gil Mantera. 1502 01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:50,142 He needed to do something different. 1503 01:09:50,273 --> 01:09:51,796 -[Richie] Beer. -[Aspasia] Big. 1504 01:09:51,926 --> 01:09:54,407 Something where he could have this outlet 1505 01:09:54,538 --> 01:09:56,714 to have those little bits 1506 01:09:56,844 --> 01:10:00,457 of him and, you know, Gil Mantera. 1507 01:10:01,197 --> 01:10:04,417 And I just feel like this kind of fit that. 1508 01:10:05,026 --> 01:10:07,942 There's Ultimate Donny that still is there. 1509 01:10:08,073 --> 01:10:09,770 I-- I would always say and always felt 1510 01:10:09,901 --> 01:10:13,209 that there wasn't-- it-- it wasn't a different person. 1511 01:10:13,339 --> 01:10:16,821 Like, Ultimate Donny isn't a completely made up character. 1512 01:10:16,951 --> 01:10:20,520 It's really just an extension of my-- my goofiness. 1513 01:10:20,651 --> 01:10:22,174 [interviewer] I remember one time I asked you a question, 1514 01:10:22,305 --> 01:10:23,523 I said, "Can ever-- anything ever compare 1515 01:10:23,654 --> 01:10:24,959 to being Ultimate Donny?" 1516 01:10:25,090 --> 01:10:27,092 And you said, "No, not in that way." 1517 01:10:27,223 --> 01:10:28,833 Like, in that specific way. 1518 01:10:28,963 --> 01:10:30,487 -[Richie] It doesn't. -[interviewer] But, like, so 1519 01:10:30,617 --> 01:10:32,184 what does it feel like to make that that journey? 1520 01:10:32,315 --> 01:10:33,881 [Richie] I guess the journey now, uh, being a regular 1521 01:10:34,012 --> 01:10:36,928 person, meeting Aspasia, um, spending lots of time, 1522 01:10:37,058 --> 01:10:39,670 marrying her, that definitely helped a lot. 1523 01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:41,280 Giant turning point right there. 1524 01:10:41,411 --> 01:10:43,456 I was able to get a little more grounded. 1525 01:10:43,587 --> 01:10:46,764 Also, I met up with my brother Glen, 1526 01:10:46,894 --> 01:10:49,375 also known as Gil Mantera, in Florida, 1527 01:10:49,506 --> 01:10:50,942 where our parents live. 1528 01:10:51,072 --> 01:10:53,336 And, uh, after hanging out with him, 1529 01:10:53,466 --> 01:10:54,989 uh, meeting his wife, 1530 01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:57,470 just being able to talk about all kinds of stuff, 1531 01:10:57,601 --> 01:11:00,517 the band, like what kind of wild ride that was, 1532 01:11:00,647 --> 01:11:02,519 it was apparent to even Aspasia that, like, 1533 01:11:02,649 --> 01:11:04,869 I let go of all kinds of, uh-- 1534 01:11:04,999 --> 01:11:06,523 I don't know, anything that I was hanging on to 1535 01:11:06,653 --> 01:11:08,220 that was negative, I just let it go. 1536 01:11:08,351 --> 01:11:10,091 I was just kind of happier right after that. 1537 01:11:10,875 --> 01:11:13,138 Got a little emotional, but, like, nothing bad. 1538 01:11:13,269 --> 01:11:14,400 It was all-- 1539 01:11:14,966 --> 01:11:18,361 It was a lot of, like, reminiscing. 1540 01:11:18,491 --> 01:11:21,451 Just discussing, like, how insane our lives were 1541 01:11:21,581 --> 01:11:23,627 as the band, I mean, it was just-- it was ridiculous. 1542 01:11:23,757 --> 01:11:25,498 It's something that most people don't experience. 1543 01:11:26,282 --> 01:11:27,326 And we did. 1544 01:11:28,371 --> 01:11:30,895 You know, when I think about the band and I see some footage 1545 01:11:31,025 --> 01:11:33,158 on YouTube or-- or wherever, 1546 01:11:33,289 --> 01:11:35,247 I still see it and think 1547 01:11:35,378 --> 01:11:37,815 there's never been and probably never will be 1548 01:11:37,945 --> 01:11:39,947 a band like Gil Mantera's Party Dream. 1549 01:11:40,078 --> 01:11:41,601 If we're going to have some kind of reunion show, 1550 01:11:41,732 --> 01:11:45,083 it's going to be just balls out insane, 1551 01:11:45,213 --> 01:11:46,519 exactly the way we want to do it. 1552 01:11:47,477 --> 01:11:49,914 You know, not because of money or anything like that. 1553 01:11:50,044 --> 01:11:51,568 It's just for the experience. 1554 01:11:51,698 --> 01:11:53,613 The band was a wild, 1555 01:11:54,614 --> 01:11:57,225 wild ride, unlike anything else. 1556 01:11:57,356 --> 01:11:59,532 So, I'm-- I'm still proud of, uh... 1557 01:11:59,663 --> 01:12:01,795 being part of something extremely special. 1558 01:12:06,496 --> 01:12:11,283 "Emotion Road" by Gil Mantera's Party Dream] 1559 01:12:41,226 --> 01:12:43,576 ♪ For once in your life ♪ 1560 01:12:43,707 --> 01:12:46,492 ♪ Give us a break, think about something ♪ 1561 01:12:46,623 --> 01:12:50,235 ♪ Anything other than space, dope and dinosaurs ♪ 1562 01:13:03,683 --> 01:13:06,730 ♪ One, two, three, four, eight, nine, eight ♪ 1563 01:13:06,860 --> 01:13:09,515 ♪ This is the way we celebrate ♪ 1564 01:13:09,646 --> 01:13:12,300 ♪ No more monkeys jumping off the bed ♪ 1565 01:13:12,431 --> 01:13:15,086 ♪ Grab a piece of chicken, wrap it up, I said ♪ 1566 01:13:15,216 --> 01:13:17,871 ♪ No more monkeys jumping off the bed ♪ 1567 01:13:18,002 --> 01:13:20,613 ♪ No more monkeys jumping on my head ♪ 1568 01:13:20,744 --> 01:13:23,311 ♪ No more monkeys, no more moneys ♪ 1569 01:13:23,442 --> 01:13:28,404 People, are you with me? 1570 01:14:02,916 --> 01:14:04,875 [laughing] 1571 01:14:11,882 --> 01:14:14,406 ♪ We all got to do what we gots to do ♪ 1572 01:14:14,537 --> 01:14:17,278 ♪ We all got to do what we gots to do ♪ 1573 01:14:17,409 --> 01:14:20,107 ♪ We all got to do what we gots to do ♪ 1574 01:14:20,238 --> 01:14:22,849 ♪ We all got to do what we gots to do ♪ 1575 01:14:22,980 --> 01:14:25,722 ♪ We all got to do what we gots to do ♪ 1576 01:14:25,852 --> 01:14:28,464 ♪ We all got to do what we gots to do ♪ 1577 01:14:28,594 --> 01:14:31,205 ♪ We all got to do what we gots to do ♪ 1578 01:14:43,827 --> 01:14:47,483 [audience cheering] 121941

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