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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:14,810 --> 00:00:18,439 Our journey just to call 2 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:26,440 out Well you didn't follow the instruction we did anybody should go as impulsive or tool 3 00:01:20,980 --> 00:01:28,980 It's the 16th of August 2012 outside the London platinum mine America in South Africa 4 00:01:29,554 --> 00:01:37,554 a 112 striking miners are shot down by police 34 die like many other South Africans. 5 00:01:38,915 --> 00:01:46,915 The shooting shook me to the core Events like 6 00:01:48,889 --> 00:01:52,908 this took me back to the massacres of apartheid sharp filled 7 00:01:52,909 --> 00:02:00,909 1960 sweater 1976 killings like these led South Africans to support 8 00:02:01,850 --> 00:02:04,188 Nelson Mandela and the struggle for 9 00:02:04,189 --> 00:02:11,569 freedom but today these miners are being shot at by a new government to ensure that 10 00:02:11,570 --> 00:02:16,879 it's business as usual we could see that lives were now being 11 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:24,569 sacrificed for money and the young democracy we had so much hope for was under threat 12 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,918 This is not a day. 13 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:44,919 Talk pushing play it is a day for us to mourn together as a nation it is 14 00:02:47,300 --> 00:02:55,300 also a day to start rebuilding and healing the zaps the only nice to 15 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:04,840 advance a situation such as police members had to employ force to protect themselves from 16 00:03:06,830 --> 00:03:14,610 the charging port Is there time for time for 17 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,744 the sin and death moment we'll 18 00:03:21,745 --> 00:03:28,128 CDN2 the Americana commission 19 00:03:28,129 --> 00:03:34,803 of inquiry has set for over a year South Africans watch in a state of shock. 20 00:03:34,804 --> 00:03:37,803 Half the police being honest in their account. 21 00:03:37,804 --> 00:03:42,438 No they have not the big question remains. 22 00:03:42,439 --> 00:03:46,638 Who sanctioned deobda to use live ammunition against 23 00:03:46,639 --> 00:03:54,639 the strikers My name is Tony inside in February. 24 00:03:59,410 --> 00:04:05,584 Clear for the following families. 25 00:04:05,585 --> 00:04:09,570 I mean no king. 26 00:04:10,630 --> 00:04:18,630 Among them into Formula I will remodel 27 00:04:18,914 --> 00:04:26,914 peddling Jackson who fight. 28 00:04:28,655 --> 00:04:34,039 Same root. Show kindness. 29 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:42,040 They reach a sub paying for the ceiling the 30 00:04:44,770 --> 00:04:52,770 Parliament and the need for us to add to this port 31 00:04:54,475 --> 00:05:00,149 it my whole life So 32 00:05:04,210 --> 00:05:12,210 you just say Bob bought a little law for 33 00:05:13,910 --> 00:05:15,359 this 34 00:05:36,990 --> 00:05:39,289 morning 35 00:05:39,290 --> 00:05:42,839 August 2012 36 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:48,964 allegedly illegal governing by rock drum operators. 37 00:05:48,965 --> 00:05:51,379 It six days before the massacre. 38 00:05:51,380 --> 00:05:56,148 The mining company London is filming the miners as I gathered outside 39 00:05:56,149 --> 00:06:01,548 the mind alone means security guard reports everything he sees group 40 00:06:01,549 --> 00:06:05,599 allegedly wants to march the opposite devoting there's 41 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:11,629 PQ management with regards to salary and certain faculty 42 00:06:11,630 --> 00:06:18,438 to write things up and back up to see if we can stop the grout also 43 00:06:18,439 --> 00:06:21,828 writing feedback from senior management you have regards 44 00:06:21,829 --> 00:06:25,819 to All relate the crowd in March the opposite. 45 00:06:25,820 --> 00:06:29,583 Or walrus top tried to stop the crowd. 46 00:06:29,584 --> 00:06:32,988 A crowd of rock jewelers meet a march to 47 00:06:32,989 --> 00:06:38,493 the Longman Management Office they believe the official majority unions 48 00:06:38,494 --> 00:06:41,899 the National Union of Mineworkers are in the pockets of 49 00:06:41,900 --> 00:06:45,739 management and so they've decided to take matters into 50 00:06:45,740 --> 00:06:53,643 their own hands they are joined by workers from a competing Union Scotland and England. 51 00:06:53,644 --> 00:06:58,474 A 4 thousand eclipsed magazine of sediment 52 00:06:58,475 --> 00:07:03,259 and warms and hazardous lacocca later quadragesimo my leg Laozi Hamas plasma now 53 00:07:03,260 --> 00:07:07,099 lumens traits So bones are not 54 00:07:07,100 --> 00:07:12,989 using them I didn't Manila mental pleased to be seated exhibit it does it 55 00:07:16,490 --> 00:07:24,490 will open that door number.com 56 00:07:27,380 --> 00:07:35,380 let's just do the opposite 57 00:07:38,500 --> 00:07:42,948 to spineless they treat The prices 58 00:07:42,949 --> 00:07:50,809 are low density and 59 00:07:50,810 --> 00:07:56,299 avalanche he says do you know for I first declared. 60 00:07:56,300 --> 00:07:58,830 Level all the way 61 00:08:11,490 --> 00:08:13,789 to go 62 00:08:23,410 --> 00:08:31,410 They are combined by 15 meters supplements such as these atoms era but since none doing 63 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:41,760 what y la strike So Amanda my pen some Bernada minute knowledge not for landa demo was 64 00:08:42,279 --> 00:08:45,919 I'll Joe Posner what Fulang now now mooc how does 65 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:50,849 play longer fight about Obama's wound up and ask for lung in Galapagos 66 00:09:05,650 --> 00:09:13,650 They got for normal concretes although I thought I would say that most of 67 00:09:16,579 --> 00:09:22,398 us do not modify that up 400 chain of 68 00:09:22,399 --> 00:09:30,399 command then I know when I find a plateau. 69 00:09:30,874 --> 00:09:33,708 But does metadata and of 70 00:09:33,709 --> 00:09:35,550 those 71 00:09:43,220 --> 00:09:45,670 products 72 00:09:59,020 --> 00:10:01,684 Thomas I didn't approve. 73 00:10:01,685 --> 00:10:05,549 But then then who Kovach though to funds that worked at Apple and it was 74 00:10:05,550 --> 00:10:10,128 against him chin boy boy your town Favare 75 00:10:10,129 --> 00:10:14,148 and launching a boy now at who's occupying data pathway 76 00:10:14,149 --> 00:10:18,109 newborn like on Monday egg and everybody ends up buffoon 77 00:10:18,110 --> 00:10:22,008 moment here this is called the Ahmadiyya and do the hunting boida lab was 78 00:10:22,009 --> 00:10:26,239 another 90 part and when Yana and the petiole Jack 79 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:34,240 app The average take-home pay of rock drillers is 80 00:10:34,489 --> 00:10:42,489 5 thousand South African wrong the equivalent of 500 Euros dollars this condemns 81 00:10:42,830 --> 00:10:45,179 them to poverty that he say 82 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,019 mining companies like Longmen view 83 00:10:48,020 --> 00:10:51,319 higher wages as the biggest threat to the continued health of 84 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:59,320 the business Longmen is a British company 85 00:11:01,355 --> 00:11:07,024 which started drilling for platinum in South Africa 30 years ago it employs 86 00:11:07,025 --> 00:11:10,098 28 thousand people exporting 87 00:11:10,099 --> 00:11:15,690 the world's most precious metal out of the country And around the globe. 88 00:11:15,730 --> 00:11:22,458 The company has spent large sums of money on a massive program of expansion. 89 00:11:22,459 --> 00:11:25,488 Leaving it financially vulnerable. 90 00:11:25,489 --> 00:11:30,109 The prospect of a long strike was the last thing they wanted. 91 00:11:30,110 --> 00:11:37,984 We experienced a group of workers who studied matching from 92 00:11:37,985 --> 00:11:41,748 the Warner Pop area to us displays which we call 93 00:11:41,749 --> 00:11:46,894 LPD These are the people who defined mining if they don't drill. 94 00:11:46,895 --> 00:11:51,109 There's no mining. So if they are not that web it becomes obvious. 95 00:11:51,110 --> 00:11:55,369 They matched until the four-way junction which is a profitability year 96 00:11:55,370 --> 00:12:00,768 And at that point obviously that's when the security engaged them and at 97 00:12:00,769 --> 00:12:03,859 no point did this group of employees 98 00:12:03,860 --> 00:12:08,734 demonstrate they had anything to present a couple of months previously 99 00:12:08,735 --> 00:12:10,158 London admit directly with 100 00:12:10,159 --> 00:12:14,868 that same struck committee to discuss the grievances yet now they wouldn't talk to them 101 00:12:14,869 --> 00:12:16,679 why 102 00:12:24,610 --> 00:12:25,758 the 103 00:12:25,759 --> 00:12:28,383 story of the Americana massacre. 104 00:12:28,384 --> 00:12:30,273 Would be incomplete. 105 00:12:30,274 --> 00:12:33,048 Without a close look at the involvement of 106 00:12:33,049 --> 00:12:40,039 civil ram opposer I had watched him with admiration He built the largest trade union 107 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:41,719 the country had ever seen 108 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,888 the National Union of Mineworkers under serums 109 00:12:45,889 --> 00:12:50,193 leadership Nome Saw the miners join the fight against apartheid. 110 00:12:50,194 --> 00:12:55,920 And I took my place marching side-by-side behind their banner. 111 00:12:56,290 --> 00:12:58,939 It must be remembered that it was 112 00:12:58,940 --> 00:13:04,533 the mining industry and specifically the Chamber of mine which pioneered 113 00:13:04,534 --> 00:13:07,504 the most oppressive features of 114 00:13:07,505 --> 00:13:08,659 apartheid South 115 00:13:08,660 --> 00:13:10,230 Africa 116 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,708 Mine workers 117 00:13:21,709 --> 00:13:25,789 have always had to put up with harsh living and working conditions. 118 00:13:25,790 --> 00:13:29,344 So Rama posa was determined to change this. 119 00:13:29,345 --> 00:13:32,538 Under his leadership workers were led into 120 00:13:32,539 --> 00:13:36,454 mass strikes and direct confrontation with the white mine owners. 121 00:13:36,455 --> 00:13:40,878 He was for me a vital and important person in the birth of 122 00:13:40,879 --> 00:13:47,539 the new South Africa there's no such thing as a liberal bourgeois they're all the same. 123 00:13:47,540 --> 00:13:51,859 They use fascist levels to destroy workers 124 00:13:51,860 --> 00:13:59,029 lives He soon became 125 00:13:59,030 --> 00:14:02,689 a leading member of the African National Congress and from 126 00:14:02,690 --> 00:14:07,399 this position joined the Black economic elite ram opposed. 127 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:12,783 Who once or South Africa's working class as a force to bringing about change. 128 00:14:12,784 --> 00:14:18,784 Now found himself on the other side of the table at the time as the massacre. 129 00:14:18,785 --> 00:14:21,133 He was a board member of long mainland. 130 00:14:21,134 --> 00:14:25,819 We've gone through our waves of starts and we always have strikes. 131 00:14:25,820 --> 00:14:31,398 Because we have such a robust democratic system that allows 132 00:14:31,399 --> 00:14:38,013 workers to express themselves and people should never be alarmed. 133 00:14:38,014 --> 00:14:42,428 This is the South African way And we need to accept 134 00:14:42,429 --> 00:14:48,369 that workers will voice their dissatisfaction. 135 00:14:48,370 --> 00:14:52,253 Through withdrawing their labour. 136 00:14:52,254 --> 00:14:55,508 What we are against is that. 137 00:14:55,509 --> 00:14:58,899 Quite a number of those strikes have tended to ten violent. 138 00:14:58,900 --> 00:15:05,960 That is one behavior pattern that we need to get out of our system 139 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:28,129 Ironically the National Union of Mineworkers num the powerful union which 140 00:15:28,130 --> 00:15:33,694 saw Arama pose a one-slide was still the majority Union inside their minds. 141 00:15:33,695 --> 00:15:37,818 But in the lead up to the long range strike gnome head refuse to address 142 00:15:37,819 --> 00:15:42,169 the low wages of their members and when London management talked to 143 00:15:42,170 --> 00:15:44,808 workers that they would only negotiate says 144 00:15:44,809 --> 00:15:49,699 the majority union the workers decided to go back to nums office 145 00:15:49,700 --> 00:15:54,739 about three pairs on to workers strike has marched down to the mem offers 146 00:15:54,740 --> 00:15:57,408 the people who are in the new officers and there are probably 147 00:15:57,409 --> 00:16:00,513 about 30 Branch officials and shops years. 148 00:16:00,514 --> 00:16:03,168 They'd been advised by the London security that the march 149 00:16:03,169 --> 00:16:05,959 was solids way and if they didn't want to meet them arch And they should 150 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:10,098 lock the building them and somebody Go Home India has 151 00:16:10,099 --> 00:16:16,008 a deny or cinnabar soybeans Milan man woman and man may you known 152 00:16:16,009 --> 00:16:23,389 as SI SAK Tyrion WAS needs Site D Nagai or suborn Cuba as if 153 00:16:23,390 --> 00:16:28,008 umani informal Z two perfectly informal Yemen 154 00:16:28,009 --> 00:16:33,063 is E for nasa gone masses Yale cinnabar sybils below knee 155 00:16:33,064 --> 00:16:40,023 The president or the general secretary of the local branch I forget which decided 156 00:16:40,024 --> 00:16:42,888 that he would hand her weapons to each of 157 00:16:42,889 --> 00:16:47,238 the 30 people who were there and they handle their pingers and spears. 158 00:16:47,239 --> 00:16:49,639 But he also handed out at least one gun. 159 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:53,569 The limbs in neutral veil and IDNUM even me Ben un 160 00:16:53,570 --> 00:16:59,808 un now since today divisional masses astray to condense jasso coin in 161 00:16:59,809 --> 00:17:03,529 and the sole goal it wasn't says obviously that 162 00:17:03,530 --> 00:17:07,583 Philip Glass who's anoxia was Yamasaki mass but especially even 163 00:17:07,584 --> 00:17:12,438 Laudato Si Amato opposite that Sierra Leone 164 00:17:12,439 --> 00:17:19,739 were standardized So Villa. 165 00:17:21,070 --> 00:17:29,070 They were shocked that from their offices or the NUM and and in fact for 166 00:17:29,434 --> 00:17:37,434 a long time thereafter it was mocked denied that to employees were shorted that stage 167 00:17:52,150 --> 00:17:56,769 kinematics it was ammonium Java parts and 168 00:17:56,770 --> 00:18:01,713 utility I am at ten and RBI limbo molypermalloy stop nonsense. 169 00:18:01,714 --> 00:18:04,968 Into an answer verbally Roku 170 00:18:04,969 --> 00:18:07,639 narrow eikonal upper-income port in ten years when 171 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,189 the sabia band and I move gear hazamah. 172 00:18:11,190 --> 00:18:13,908 Awesome. Now I've got an amateur 173 00:18:13,909 --> 00:18:21,909 toggling the National Union of Mineworkers 174 00:18:22,865 --> 00:18:28,653 denies any of their members attack workers and insist that they branch leadership. 175 00:18:28,654 --> 00:18:31,114 We're acting in self-defense. 176 00:18:31,115 --> 00:18:36,604 None would not encouraged in is sort of that 177 00:18:36,605 --> 00:18:41,598 Patnam watch Understand if it's people believed that they 178 00:18:41,599 --> 00:18:45,049 are under threat to their lives and our office and outlet 179 00:18:45,050 --> 00:18:49,219 that did they we'll add this pop off the moment disabled taiga standards have 180 00:18:49,220 --> 00:18:52,459 said that as an Ngram would believe that those people 181 00:18:52,460 --> 00:18:55,729 in that circumstances found themselves and we'll end 182 00:18:55,730 --> 00:18:59,844 with one condemn what they did in many respects that was 183 00:18:59,845 --> 00:19:05,194 a complete turning point because up until that point That beam. 184 00:19:05,195 --> 00:19:08,313 Very little violence I'm not saying there wasn't any violence. 185 00:19:08,314 --> 00:19:11,029 People said was a bit of intimidation I really don't know about 186 00:19:11,030 --> 00:19:14,084 it but no one was being killed. 187 00:19:14,085 --> 00:19:17,673 So my leg the leg Knowsalot spill that Divina food in the side. 188 00:19:17,674 --> 00:19:21,574 Hit a grounding pill. 189 00:19:21,575 --> 00:19:24,049 So a planning Dawn. 190 00:19:24,050 --> 00:19:27,288 Is bad Georgia Linda and pillars now palisade 191 00:19:27,289 --> 00:19:31,698 Tom silicone Masada and dab it in jabayo and I got 192 00:19:31,699 --> 00:19:39,699 these giga gnomon mom banned 11 to further draw. 193 00:19:40,025 --> 00:19:42,604 Every time the miners gather 194 00:19:42,605 --> 00:19:48,274 the Longmen security guard keeps a keen eye on them After the shootings. 195 00:19:48,275 --> 00:19:56,275 Of two people allegedly from Korea area such ICN is fairly comma this state 196 00:19:58,505 --> 00:20:02,959 no direct greatest maturity as a reaction to 197 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:08,179 numb shooting at their own members the conflict grows Longmen rock tutors from 198 00:20:08,180 --> 00:20:12,858 the nearby carry shaft join the strike in numbers they belong 199 00:20:12,859 --> 00:20:17,883 to the competing union the association of construction and mine workers union. 200 00:20:17,884 --> 00:20:19,529 I'm 6'2 201 00:20:27,580 --> 00:20:29,823 I'm cuz leader 202 00:20:29,824 --> 00:20:34,969 Joseph more tundra like grammar posa 20 years before him is fighting 203 00:20:34,970 --> 00:20:40,879 the system and believes num has become far too close to mine management and government. 204 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:46,980 He soon becomes an important player in the unfolding events at maricon 205 00:20:49,900 --> 00:20:53,404 What you've got is liberates 206 00:20:53,405 --> 00:20:58,548 the only thing that we'd better feedback is to change it Administration which was 207 00:20:58,549 --> 00:21:03,064 run by the White cannot then is our trend h. Now what did 208 00:21:03,065 --> 00:21:10,349 Moses Bono who just says really taught I will almost seem values is given 209 00:21:33,790 --> 00:21:40,218 Run the 12th they decide that they're going to go back to the 210 00:21:40,219 --> 00:21:46,654 amorphous is this time I think that there are inferior and they take their own. 211 00:21:46,655 --> 00:21:52,879 Course of action and they all stopped rarely by London. 212 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,539 Security guards and not much is known of 213 00:21:56,540 --> 00:22:01,069 what happened on that day I mean there is a suggestion that 214 00:22:01,070 --> 00:22:05,269 these guards who have to say or poorly 215 00:22:05,270 --> 00:22:10,878 paid ordinary black working class people who were sent out to confront. 216 00:22:10,879 --> 00:22:15,163 On behalf all this multinational firm of exploiters 217 00:22:15,164 --> 00:22:21,468 The the demonstration that's coming to them but whatever happened 218 00:22:21,469 --> 00:22:28,728 to girls were killed and one of them in particular was bound to 219 00:22:28,729 --> 00:22:30,270 a cinder 220 00:23:00,660 --> 00:23:02,319 Cyril ram 221 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,373 oppose it was close to Nelson Mandela. 222 00:23:04,374 --> 00:23:07,463 We thought he was succeeded Mandela presidency. 223 00:23:07,464 --> 00:23:09,009 After the massacre. 224 00:23:09,010 --> 00:23:14,709 I was hoping to have an honest discussion about what really took place in America but 225 00:23:14,710 --> 00:23:17,348 he quickly made it clear that he would speak only in 226 00:23:17,349 --> 00:23:20,813 January terms until appearing before the Commission. 227 00:23:20,814 --> 00:23:26,858 We were the first country to have a wave of strikes. 228 00:23:26,859 --> 00:23:29,153 Let's just get that clear. 229 00:23:29,154 --> 00:23:37,044 Many countries both middle-income countries low income countries and high income 230 00:23:37,045 --> 00:23:39,518 countries have been through waves of 231 00:23:39,519 --> 00:23:45,899 strife And many of those strikes in some countries have even toppled governments. 232 00:24:00,570 --> 00:24:05,254 You'd. It wasn't as if the 16th was a day are slated 233 00:24:05,255 --> 00:24:09,814 from context you have to look back to the Monday before that Thursday. 234 00:24:09,815 --> 00:24:13,144 When a group of a 150 to 200 miners 235 00:24:13,145 --> 00:24:17,659 went from that copy to Korea three mind with the herd. 236 00:24:17,660 --> 00:24:20,808 There were still some miners working in they want to tell them to 237 00:24:20,809 --> 00:24:23,928 down tools Intimidation solidarity you can 238 00:24:23,929 --> 00:24:26,974 call it what you want there were turned back 239 00:24:26,975 --> 00:24:30,628 by the security to the mind we told them go back with that treat. 240 00:24:30,629 --> 00:24:36,318 There went back with that Truett halfway back to that copy. 241 00:24:36,319 --> 00:24:38,538 They were met by a cordon of 242 00:24:38,539 --> 00:24:45,318 police and usually led 243 00:24:45,319 --> 00:24:49,559 by the Deputy Commissioner for the Northwest general impending 244 00:25:04,260 --> 00:25:09,119 He says Is into Nr is paired to Azi yet 245 00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:16,884 doing my yeah yeah yeah pneumonia. 246 00:25:16,885 --> 00:25:19,160 I mean you guys are looses. 247 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:28,640 Then allowed us right now how can 248 00:25:31,570 --> 00:25:35,868 I do that I don't like that and 249 00:25:35,869 --> 00:25:43,869 I'm not gonna do that 250 00:26:06,410 --> 00:26:13,638 But as important. 251 00:26:13,639 --> 00:26:21,639 Can you then begin to understand the standpoint of 252 00:26:23,140 --> 00:26:28,239 those employees they say by the way we have no issue with 253 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:34,264 you as the police Now that's very fundamental. 254 00:26:34,265 --> 00:26:39,918 Is like the one to remind everybody including the police 255 00:26:39,919 --> 00:26:47,919 that in a democracy where cosmic negotiate with the employers. 256 00:26:48,035 --> 00:26:56,035 The police should not be this shield between employees rights and employers applications 257 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,689 or one that's not right 258 00:27:11,470 --> 00:27:19,279 The very interesting part about it is when the negotiations between Jeran timber. 259 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,559 In some other way can lead us. 260 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,748 Including funny nope. 261 00:27:23,749 --> 00:27:26,659 The so-called man in the clinic blanket. 262 00:27:26,660 --> 00:27:33,108 Members. Now when it is clear that the employees have put their position. 263 00:27:33,109 --> 00:27:36,484 Look. Few oriented disarmament. That's okay. 264 00:27:36,485 --> 00:27:41,219 But you need to as caught us for a year to the mountain 265 00:27:57,370 --> 00:28:05,370 And Chandra and pamby reaches a stage where it 266 00:28:08,329 --> 00:28:10,729 says Now let me get to state i you 267 00:28:10,730 --> 00:28:14,869 saying if we escort to to the mountain when you get there you'll end 268 00:28:14,870 --> 00:28:21,559 over the weapons to us and they say yes and at that point he gets 269 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:29,560 a telephone cord but he said in effect when one looks at that clip. 270 00:28:29,599 --> 00:28:37,599 These attitude isn't radical before and after that phone call Hi I'm dose. 271 00:28:39,535 --> 00:28:47,535 We afford now in conto we are again Diane demand myrtle that Tony in 272 00:28:49,550 --> 00:28:55,388 Canto Yeah 273 00:28:55,389 --> 00:29:02,099 I think I think 274 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:25,200 they go into their soul and they just get up and go 275 00:29:43,450 --> 00:29:46,114 And again to either credit. 276 00:29:46,115 --> 00:29:50,479 At that point gentle impairment doesn't say should 277 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:58,480 this baggers here allows them pay much in the simply provide a quarter note 278 00:30:18,220 --> 00:30:23,838 This group of miners or walking slowly and deliberately. 279 00:30:23,839 --> 00:30:28,920 From the video footage you see that don't seem to pose any threat. 280 00:30:31,330 --> 00:30:36,574 Suddenly you see tear gas being fired Berlin wireless I'm shots fired. 281 00:30:36,575 --> 00:30:41,374 They get ignored that just keep going and there's a line of police 282 00:30:41,375 --> 00:30:47,549 jogging alongside them on the one side this armored vehicles keeps going. 283 00:30:52,930 --> 00:30:59,280 Another body of shots and tear gas Cricket break. 284 00:31:00,490 --> 00:31:03,619 So this is a PBS. 285 00:31:03,620 --> 00:31:09,763 Learning to run less than the agreement from what we see 286 00:31:09,764 --> 00:31:12,949 the peoples that are running around 287 00:31:12,950 --> 00:31:18,138 after the stamp lemmings here had been thrown in exploded it's only then 288 00:31:18,139 --> 00:31:23,284 that people start running around connectedness and none of the commanders. 289 00:31:23,285 --> 00:31:25,158 At admit to having given 290 00:31:25,159 --> 00:31:29,508 instruction in fact somebody who told us alleged that you are given 291 00:31:29,509 --> 00:31:32,898 the instruction and you are quite emphatic that was not 292 00:31:32,899 --> 00:31:37,864 true but none of the commanders gave the order Coons instructions to 293 00:31:37,865 --> 00:31:41,559 the information that you have So I don't think he's really 294 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,968 puzzling and in that chaos three minus are 295 00:31:45,969 --> 00:31:49,493 killed one of whom seems to have been 296 00:31:49,494 --> 00:31:55,129 stabbed to death and it's unclear who caused their death in what circumstances. 297 00:31:57,870 --> 00:32:02,510 Also two cops get quota and get killed 298 00:32:22,930 --> 00:32:27,618 To strike us were not killed at the scene to strikers were killed. 299 00:32:27,619 --> 00:32:32,598 Perhaps 300 meters another 800 meters from that scene. 300 00:32:32,599 --> 00:32:38,178 My interpretation is that these two strikers were fleeing 301 00:32:38,179 --> 00:32:43,924 and running away from the scene and were pursued by police officers. 302 00:32:43,925 --> 00:32:47,928 One in particular I believe that when he was perhaps 303 00:32:47,929 --> 00:32:51,829 800 meters away from the scene and was running through a river 304 00:32:51,830 --> 00:32:55,429 and up the bank on the other side I believe he was 305 00:32:55,430 --> 00:32:59,658 targeted by a police officer and was shot and 306 00:32:59,659 --> 00:33:03,169 I described that as being an execution people took cell phone pictures of 307 00:33:03,170 --> 00:33:08,028 the The Police and the circulated through all police circles. 308 00:33:08,029 --> 00:33:12,994 Every single province got these police to policemen had been killed. 309 00:33:12,995 --> 00:33:16,579 Now to be realistic we know that cops have 310 00:33:16,580 --> 00:33:19,608 a kind of iron clad drill you 311 00:33:19,609 --> 00:33:23,448 take us out we're going to take you out you didn't get away with killing policemen. 312 00:33:23,449 --> 00:33:27,570 That's police forces across the world actually 313 00:33:56,740 --> 00:34:00,109 It's two days before the massacre. 314 00:34:00,110 --> 00:34:04,429 Already a total of nine people have been killed with 315 00:34:04,430 --> 00:34:09,139 the latest and num official being marked by a cow's skull. 316 00:34:09,140 --> 00:34:14,658 The sign of a traitor conflict between the strikers and gnome goes 317 00:34:14,659 --> 00:34:20,269 from bad to worse it what it does more as to what is the motif. 318 00:34:20,270 --> 00:34:24,528 Because no organization worth its salt can embark on on on 319 00:34:24,529 --> 00:34:28,769 on on this barbaric way of raising issues And we believe that the partners 320 00:34:28,770 --> 00:34:36,049 know that NUM will never be involved in this kind of barbaric way of dealing with 321 00:34:36,050 --> 00:34:39,708 users non-man begins its campaign of pinning 322 00:34:39,709 --> 00:34:43,849 responsibility for the violence on the striking miners. 323 00:34:43,850 --> 00:34:45,438 We didn't. 324 00:34:45,439 --> 00:34:49,698 Not anticipate this type of violence and I don't think 325 00:34:49,699 --> 00:34:51,919 any organization in this country could have 326 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,770 anticipated this type of violence because it's not normal. 327 00:34:56,500 --> 00:35:01,218 So that's why we looking and searching and using the police particularly the 328 00:35:01,219 --> 00:35:06,569 crime intelligence to understand the root cause of the situation 329 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:37,204 Running casseroles joined the fight against apartheid in the 19 sixties. 330 00:35:37,205 --> 00:35:39,679 Following this short film massacre. 331 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:44,704 He sat on the National Executive Committee of the ANC for 20 years 332 00:35:44,705 --> 00:35:50,074 and was considered by the white minority regime as one of their most dangerous opponents. 333 00:35:50,075 --> 00:35:55,863 Why the use Police force onto the teeth against 334 00:35:55,864 --> 00:36:02,629 2-3 thousand miners who were not occupying mining property or territory. 335 00:36:02,630 --> 00:36:06,274 Were not occupying any strategic point we're not 336 00:36:06,275 --> 00:36:10,639 blocking the national highway or any minor road. 337 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:15,424 They were seated at a distance from 338 00:36:15,425 --> 00:36:20,913 any any key point to I please visibility and presence law remained. 339 00:36:20,914 --> 00:36:26,460 Until the situation is completely stable and currently we are seeing. 340 00:36:27,490 --> 00:36:34,879 Mind work as part of our phased approach In terms 341 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,238 of discussing and negotiating with 342 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:42,389 the protesters and that's the process that you're busy with after statuary. 343 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,999 I'm not at all sure why they brought in a hostage negotiator to try and 344 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:09,709 negotiate with 3 thousand strike as it does seem Bizarre. 345 00:37:09,710 --> 00:37:14,568 Particularly as the strike is who always said We want to negotiate but we want to 346 00:37:14,569 --> 00:37:20,370 negotiate with management kinda. 347 00:37:22,370 --> 00:37:29,253 Yeah Communist gardener but don't tell them please. 348 00:37:29,254 --> 00:37:33,048 Any weapons weapons. 349 00:37:33,049 --> 00:37:38,238 It's not for us and nothing would happen to them they 350 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:43,714 National Police Commissioner ported Longman to produce photographs 351 00:37:43,715 --> 00:37:48,168 of the demonstrators she then ordered London to 352 00:37:48,169 --> 00:37:53,348 identify the ring leaders I need to indicate that 353 00:37:53,349 --> 00:38:00,323 a management styles and 354 00:38:00,324 --> 00:38:05,753 also continue to assist me to identify them from their fortunes. 355 00:38:05,754 --> 00:38:10,853 But what is clear is not the person that they're would've identified. 356 00:38:10,854 --> 00:38:14,424 Because he was the main negotiator is Mr. loci. 357 00:38:14,425 --> 00:38:16,374 The man in the green blanket. 358 00:38:16,375 --> 00:38:22,519 What we know about Muslim Inaki is that he has 14 bullet holes in him he is dead 359 00:38:36,580 --> 00:38:42,619 Then I will stop at the stop stopping for 360 00:38:42,620 --> 00:38:48,858 leaders is asking is asking can you turn the motor off so we can talk. 361 00:38:48,859 --> 00:38:55,789 Related to weight cannot to be heard over the noise of 362 00:38:55,790 --> 00:38:59,149 the running engine strike lead a man boast climbs onto 363 00:38:59,150 --> 00:39:03,780 the armored vehicle to talk to the police hostage negotiation. 364 00:39:04,510 --> 00:39:08,220 Thank him. Thank him 365 00:39:10,270 --> 00:39:18,270 quite a lot And I'm going to 366 00:39:27,340 --> 00:39:35,340 talk about what happened at 367 00:39:38,260 --> 00:39:46,260 the same time and I went I went up and going and minus does not 368 00:39:48,425 --> 00:39:53,250 produce having studied whether this particular 369 00:39:54,360 --> 00:40:00,588 result But Longmen continued to 370 00:40:00,589 --> 00:40:03,469 refuse to meet the strikers what 371 00:40:03,470 --> 00:40:06,919 happened next was only discovered a year into the commission. 372 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:11,238 When the police were ordered to hand over files that they had 373 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:17,988 hidden it is a transcript of a conversation that took place two days before the massacre. 374 00:40:17,989 --> 00:40:22,759 Between an executive of Longmen and the provincial Commissioner of Police. 375 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:29,013 It reveals the state and Longmen putting their heads together on how to break the strike. 376 00:40:29,014 --> 00:40:35,388 Before it spread to other minds we need to act such that we kill this thing immediately. 377 00:40:35,389 --> 00:40:38,749 Yes Tomorrow we have to move in if 378 00:40:38,750 --> 00:40:42,139 today we do not find cooperation in these people we need to 379 00:40:42,140 --> 00:40:45,258 move in such that we can it so I agree with you 380 00:40:45,259 --> 00:40:49,144 Commissioner if it can arrest these people because the longer it goes. 381 00:40:49,145 --> 00:40:52,489 It is giving all the other opportunities to comment and seize 382 00:40:52,490 --> 00:40:56,149 the opportunity and then it gets out of control that is 383 00:40:56,150 --> 00:40:59,269 it so I think yes that tomorrow be 384 00:40:59,270 --> 00:41:03,619 the D-Day where we issue the ultimatum and say If you do not show up for work. 385 00:41:03,620 --> 00:41:05,849 Sorry that is it 386 00:41:29,060 --> 00:41:32,849 You may go to 387 00:41:44,890 --> 00:41:49,600 this other node along 388 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:56,489 this robot 389 00:42:05,450 --> 00:42:06,753 Alright 390 00:42:06,754 --> 00:42:06,889 it 391 00:42:06,890 --> 00:42:09,378 Is eight minutes after eight would say good morning 392 00:42:09,379 --> 00:42:12,018 to you Welcome to the forum at H-E-R-M-S AFM sell off we want to 393 00:42:12,019 --> 00:42:14,928 start with the National Union of Mineworkers president who's here 394 00:42:14,929 --> 00:42:17,868 with me in studio since any Zaghouan IV Good morning to you say I think if 395 00:42:17,869 --> 00:42:20,268 we were at time one and column enough tutorial studios we 396 00:42:20,269 --> 00:42:22,729 are joined today by Mr. Bernard mucuna he is 397 00:42:22,730 --> 00:42:25,008 executive vice president that London is 398 00:42:25,009 --> 00:42:28,759 democratic Good morning to you Good monitor you also I'm joined here in the studio. 399 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,619 By Joseph my tune joy he is 400 00:42:30,620 --> 00:42:34,293 the president of unquote if a good monitor units to match withdrew. 401 00:42:34,294 --> 00:42:40,223 Their machine to to cada Ada Stevia guys came out of the offices of 402 00:42:40,224 --> 00:42:45,574 NUM fiat adult tickets There was no firing at any point due on Friday. 403 00:42:45,575 --> 00:42:50,088 This feather confirms my view that unquote behind them much the fact that 404 00:42:50,089 --> 00:42:54,964 they one way of achieving that is if the leaders of the two polygons the unions. 405 00:42:54,965 --> 00:42:58,068 Come together go there publicly together and say okay 406 00:42:58,069 --> 00:43:01,263 for now let's go back to work we early on is that 407 00:43:01,264 --> 00:43:07,128 our outside ready to take us there ever too difficult unless I cyclical times 408 00:43:07,129 --> 00:43:09,214 I'm thankful any Muslim corner yes 409 00:43:09,215 --> 00:43:13,323 Kalanick our position as management is as follows we agree. 410 00:43:13,324 --> 00:43:14,943 People must be designed. 411 00:43:14,944 --> 00:43:21,378 We went to meet the structures of the unions to discuss any grievance or consent in 412 00:43:21,379 --> 00:43:24,529 the most civilized manner Without pandas and without 413 00:43:24,530 --> 00:43:28,024 cars we can do it now we can do it as soon as possible. 414 00:43:28,025 --> 00:43:31,999 Ready let's go then let's hope that's bulges at Montana and agreement. 415 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,738 During a radio interview the leaders of the trade unions agree on air to address 416 00:43:36,739 --> 00:43:41,419 the miners at the mountain London's Barnard mucuna remains 417 00:43:41,420 --> 00:43:43,128 silent about whether he will join 418 00:43:43,129 --> 00:43:49,519 them on the drive towards Americana afforded reached out and had been there 419 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,928 before afforded reached it because there are 420 00:43:51,929 --> 00:43:55,728 all these armored vehicles police armored vehicles and private 421 00:43:55,729 --> 00:43:59,148 security vehicles with fully addressed tactical guys 422 00:43:59,149 --> 00:44:02,613 in uniforms had never seen military gear. 423 00:44:02,614 --> 00:44:06,378 No policing getters all automatic Metagraph wills are 424 00:44:06,379 --> 00:44:12,259 fives sixes and I stopped the thing had reached the kind of 425 00:44:12,260 --> 00:44:16,219 front-line or the police but they're all eating and having a p and 426 00:44:16,220 --> 00:44:19,879 you know the parsing time so I kept 427 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,629 going and eventually got to the right spot and it was 428 00:44:23,630 --> 00:44:28,590 clear that this thing was going to be a huge conflict 429 00:45:04,870 --> 00:45:08,689 Minus shutdown answer on positive six. 430 00:45:08,690 --> 00:45:11,643 One person who commanded the respect of 431 00:45:11,644 --> 00:45:16,098 all parties and he might have been able to resolve the conflict was so 432 00:45:16,099 --> 00:45:19,953 Ram opposer because the former mine worker leader 433 00:45:19,954 --> 00:45:23,689 is now one of the most influential politicians inside 434 00:45:23,690 --> 00:45:30,948 the ruling party Did 435 00:45:30,949 --> 00:45:36,273 it ever cross your mind to go to the mountain to speak to the workers. 436 00:45:36,274 --> 00:45:41,718 I prefer not to answer that one because if I ever got to give evidence. 437 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:49,719 Have to deal with things like that email communication was uncovered at the commission. 438 00:45:50,164 --> 00:45:53,869 Sharing Silvano posa energetically lobbying 439 00:45:53,870 --> 00:45:59,508 government ministers to increase police presence and pressing for action to be 440 00:45:59,509 --> 00:46:07,509 taken against the minus chairperson will have the now procession Emails that 441 00:46:09,290 --> 00:46:15,874 were being exchanged between the mind management the government minister 442 00:46:15,875 --> 00:46:22,953 of minerals and energy which talk about discussions with the Minister of police. 443 00:46:22,954 --> 00:46:26,324 At the center of which is a gentleman called Rama 444 00:46:26,325 --> 00:46:30,599 posa Saran oppose or writes about discussions he had with 445 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,858 the Minister of mining citizenship Bangor she 446 00:46:33,859 --> 00:46:38,928 agrees that what we are going through is not a labor dispute but a criminal act. 447 00:46:38,929 --> 00:46:43,248 She's going into a cabinet and we'll brief the President as well and 448 00:46:43,249 --> 00:46:48,034 get the Minister of police not Tim tetra to act in a more pointed way 449 00:46:48,035 --> 00:46:50,569 Let's just keep the pressure on them to act 450 00:46:50,570 --> 00:46:55,158 correctly by interrupting you but what is the date of that email which is 451 00:46:55,159 --> 00:47:02,718 the 15th of August 258 exactly 24 hours before the people were moved 452 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:10,719 down then that that mountain stellar I'm a parser advised that what was taking place. 453 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,119 Uh plainly I'm quoting now task that link 454 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:22,008 criminal and must be characterised as such in line with this characterization. 455 00:47:22,009 --> 00:47:26,689 There needs to be concomitant action to address 456 00:47:26,690 --> 00:47:32,419 the situation That at the heart of 457 00:47:32,420 --> 00:47:39,574 this was the toxic collision between the S-A-P-S and London. 458 00:47:39,575 --> 00:47:43,848 At the direct level at a much broader level it can 459 00:47:43,849 --> 00:47:47,793 be called a collusion between the state and capital. 460 00:47:47,794 --> 00:47:50,569 Black people who get into 461 00:47:50,570 --> 00:47:57,559 come white owned companies through the black economic empowerment process 462 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:04,189 then get into a system one which is very reluctant to 463 00:48:04,190 --> 00:48:11,464 change and to which they don't own completely and which they don't control. 464 00:48:11,465 --> 00:48:19,439 So Best what they do or why do we do is to be advocates 465 00:48:54,190 --> 00:48:58,128 After the radio broadcast Joseph Martin's where 466 00:48:58,129 --> 00:49:01,998 the leader of Ankur arrives at the mountain with the num leadership in an attempt 467 00:49:01,999 --> 00:49:04,938 to persuade their workers to return to work on 468 00:49:04,939 --> 00:49:08,478 the basis of a commitment made on air by Longmen management that they 469 00:49:08,479 --> 00:49:12,828 were now willing to talk Joseph and 470 00:49:12,829 --> 00:49:15,019 Tanjore told me that uh he confidently 471 00:49:15,020 --> 00:49:18,429 expected that when he arrived that there would be a meeting between himself. 472 00:49:18,430 --> 00:49:19,758 This does Corner. 473 00:49:19,759 --> 00:49:21,454 And the London management. 474 00:49:21,455 --> 00:49:26,898 Instead what he found was the general mere pamby he asked would either tritium in 475 00:49:26,899 --> 00:49:32,629 leaders go up to the mountain to speak to the strikers and say leave your arms there. 476 00:49:32,630 --> 00:49:35,669 Leave the mountain just leave 477 00:49:36,340 --> 00:49:42,319 A small delegation from num went first and they went and armored truck and 478 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,048 the armored truck approached the mountain 479 00:49:45,049 --> 00:49:49,219 and the strikers were told that inside the truck was the president of 480 00:49:49,220 --> 00:49:52,998 the National Union of Mineworkers and that he wasn't getting out of 481 00:49:52,999 --> 00:49:57,918 the truck it was clear from the reception. 482 00:49:57,919 --> 00:50:01,469 They simply didn't want they did not want them there. 483 00:50:09,490 --> 00:50:12,798 Well Joseph had a much better reception. 484 00:50:12,799 --> 00:50:15,498 Again he was not allowed by the police to get out of 485 00:50:15,499 --> 00:50:22,458 the truck And then it wasn't just in front of them being 486 00:50:22,459 --> 00:50:26,029 spent their insight to come up with other 487 00:50:26,030 --> 00:50:30,448 well why don't you simply say you can come to a data point could just 488 00:50:30,449 --> 00:50:38,449 walk where we just go and talk to girls preseason workbook you will 489 00:50:40,415 --> 00:50:46,519 finish the term Adam climate and our plan is to pull 490 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:54,150 back there 491 00:50:58,810 --> 00:51:03,500 although I was dead Yeah 492 00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,778 he made headway on the strikers came to him and said 493 00:51:17,779 --> 00:51:21,364 Look it's late in the day it's getting dark. 494 00:51:21,365 --> 00:51:25,894 What we'd like you to do is to come back at nine o'clock in the morning. 495 00:51:25,895 --> 00:51:27,633 But more significantly. 496 00:51:27,634 --> 00:51:32,718 He was telling them that if they were to leave the mountain. 497 00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:37,979 Then management would address their grievances in other words at least speak to them 498 00:51:58,650 --> 00:52:02,769 So he went back and he reported that Earth to the police and to 499 00:52:02,770 --> 00:52:08,499 the London management to the factor the Peter Joseph tungiasis is other 500 00:52:08,500 --> 00:52:12,519 we're really optimistic I mean general my-append Bei He said in fact saluted 501 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:18,294 him and said well done and one of the other Longman managers. 502 00:52:18,295 --> 00:52:22,988 Said yes. Congratulations maybe we can do that and so there was a sort 503 00:52:22,989 --> 00:52:29,100 of chunk that was a light there Someone that could be developed 504 00:53:00,730 --> 00:53:06,109 to remember that we said our intention is 505 00:53:06,110 --> 00:53:11,329 to the people And are also our intention is to make sure that 506 00:53:11,330 --> 00:53:15,619 the people that they leave that illegal gathering area where they 507 00:53:15,620 --> 00:53:20,598 are and that is what we will do today and I 508 00:53:20,599 --> 00:53:24,018 said to you we wish that we will do 509 00:53:24,019 --> 00:53:30,768 that still amicable Meaning we will ask them to leave. 510 00:53:30,769 --> 00:53:36,604 But then I don't want to explain to you if they don't wet. 511 00:53:36,605 --> 00:53:44,605 What I told you is today we n-d this mid what we have 512 00:53:46,639 --> 00:53:50,539 statements from the National Commission and the provincial Commissioner which 513 00:53:50,540 --> 00:53:55,023 make clear that the night before 514 00:53:55,024 --> 00:53:57,949 the provincial Commissioner had informed 515 00:53:57,950 --> 00:54:02,928 the National Commissioner that accepts could not persuade the strikers to lay down 516 00:54:02,929 --> 00:54:06,918 their weapons and leave the copy by negotiations she would issue an instruction for 517 00:54:06,919 --> 00:54:11,299 the strikers to be dispersed After deliberations. 518 00:54:11,300 --> 00:54:16,564 The meeting endorsed the proposal to disarm the protesting masses and further indicated 519 00:54:16,565 --> 00:54:19,368 that additional resources must be made available upon 520 00:54:19,369 --> 00:54:23,429 needs identification by the provincial commissioner Northwest 521 00:54:49,690 --> 00:54:57,690 The most foreboding indication of the intentions of those who 522 00:54:57,709 --> 00:55:04,983 placed an order for for short events vans from the morgue. 523 00:55:04,984 --> 00:55:07,999 What else are you anticipate it says Statement of 524 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,329 anticipation of what is good to have them can we not 525 00:55:11,330 --> 00:55:14,209 please move on to the morning of 16 August 526 00:55:14,210 --> 00:55:21,169 2012 we then requested one of the security to call Mr. quality 527 00:55:21,170 --> 00:55:25,623 and to advise him that we have arrived as 528 00:55:25,624 --> 00:55:32,118 we were inside the office he said it doesn't have good news for us 529 00:55:32,119 --> 00:55:38,779 He was referring to the commitment made by the management that once there were 530 00:55:38,780 --> 00:55:45,558 caused renounced vow lens live arms and return back to work peacefully. 531 00:55:45,559 --> 00:55:51,060 Their management we will engage to their grievances. 532 00:56:02,260 --> 00:56:06,619 We now know that this was a joint operation between London and 533 00:56:06,620 --> 00:56:10,188 the police that lawn moon was completely integrated into 534 00:56:10,189 --> 00:56:13,998 the police strategy and the system the police strategy It 535 00:56:13,999 --> 00:56:18,978 provided a senior executive to be part of the police team they 536 00:56:18,979 --> 00:56:23,028 briefed the police officers and senior generals at least once every 537 00:56:23,029 --> 00:56:30,303 day they provided helicopters and went out on surveillance expeditions with the police. 538 00:56:30,304 --> 00:56:35,269 They provided detention facilities and at the very end of the day 539 00:56:35,270 --> 00:56:37,399 after all the killings were done they provided 540 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,559 the London game farm for the people who failed. 541 00:56:48,670 --> 00:56:54,109 Are we to believe that even Major General Pierre 542 00:56:54,110 --> 00:57:00,184 Ha Hidden. py air that this with her principal. 543 00:57:00,185 --> 00:57:06,603 The Minister of police deed. 544 00:57:06,604 --> 00:57:13,878 You make a telephone call to the minister reporting to him that Keiling's that 545 00:57:13,879 --> 00:57:16,429 had taken place at Marika on 546 00:57:16,430 --> 00:57:21,813 the 30th of August 2012 Do you remember me asking you that question. 547 00:57:21,814 --> 00:57:26,269 You've asked me a lot of questions it could have been one of those is 548 00:57:26,270 --> 00:57:29,988 general this is a simple question are you suggesting 549 00:57:29,989 --> 00:57:37,989 that you do not remember for effect you do not remember me asking you that question I 550 00:57:39,365 --> 00:57:43,489 have had a number of questions from you and that could have been one of 551 00:57:43,490 --> 00:57:50,209 those canes on such a large scale 552 00:57:50,210 --> 00:57:55,053 would that have been a matter of concern to your minister. 553 00:57:55,054 --> 00:58:01,413 I said. Yes. If it was or would have been. 554 00:58:01,414 --> 00:58:04,008 What if anything. 555 00:58:04,009 --> 00:58:12,009 Did the minister Do I have already given my response to this one so. 556 00:58:12,490 --> 00:58:16,878 Nearly the current leader in Bendigo hub He gives us. 557 00:58:16,879 --> 00:58:21,799 Leadership in that space and support I have failed maybe 558 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:26,659 to answer in a minute that is appreciated. 559 00:58:26,660 --> 00:58:34,660 Maybe I'm short of answering your question 16 hexane must 560 00:58:35,509 --> 00:58:39,858 figure as he was fingers Guan list then as long as 561 00:58:39,859 --> 00:58:44,733 the heap was a van is a drag O'bannons argue for a while. 562 00:58:44,734 --> 00:58:48,993 Figure Emma battle going apply they tumbled out by MR2 shock. 563 00:58:48,994 --> 00:58:52,623 Intellectual abomasum but I swear footie meningo 564 00:58:52,624 --> 00:58:58,039 by Mate morning it had become clear to the miners that London had gone back 565 00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:59,538 on their commitment to talk to 566 00:58:59,539 --> 00:59:02,430 them And 567 00:59:02,620 --> 00:59:10,620 I still 568 00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:41,280 don't know about so we'll find out 569 00:59:45,910 --> 00:59:47,088 Well 570 00:59:47,089 --> 00:59:48,269 my 571 00:59:59,380 --> 01:00:00,978 God God 572 01:00:00,979 --> 01:00:08,979 all the way to my dog 573 01:00:28,930 --> 01:00:33,044 Furthermore postdocs example of another add-on. 574 01:00:33,045 --> 01:00:37,769 Itself rather 575 01:00:48,390 --> 01:00:50,929 easily 576 01:01:13,420 --> 01:01:15,019 The question I 577 01:01:15,020 --> 01:01:21,678 ask you is this a decision that you say you took to implement states three. 578 01:01:21,679 --> 01:01:29,463 Was that decision taken because there had been an escalation. Was it taken. 579 01:01:29,464 --> 01:01:32,238 Even though there hadn't been an escalation that's the question I 580 01:01:32,239 --> 01:01:35,599 wouldn't want to episode. 581 01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:40,759 I'll put a little paragraph degree escalation but what 582 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:45,829 I find so answer is the decision to is to implement Stage three which 583 01:01:45,830 --> 01:01:50,298 you say you took and conveyed to the provincial commission that was 584 01:01:50,299 --> 01:01:57,549 Rough because of explanation but the fact that even though they wasn't his professional. 585 01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:20,160 Might already know 586 01:02:31,540 --> 01:02:37,019 So this is. 587 01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:56,400 Yeah free about it should be that they're not in our free path 588 01:03:05,950 --> 01:03:12,699 there may have been I thought up yeah 589 01:03:18,330 --> 01:03:26,330 But what do I do and I 590 01:03:27,110 --> 01:03:32,254 said well I don't want to 591 01:03:32,255 --> 01:03:38,988 but there are all these are given to talk. 592 01:03:38,989 --> 01:03:45,630 Yet about the planet an icon set then you have F omega j. 593 01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,714 Therefore Madonna. 594 01:03:49,715 --> 01:03:57,149 Isn't good has no memory of my banana coconut 595 01:04:16,060 --> 01:04:21,634 I still remember vividly the face of those workers. 596 01:04:21,635 --> 01:04:28,924 I still remember my weights I said when colon m can be of ATV asked me. 597 01:04:28,925 --> 01:04:33,468 What now I said all this is in courts 598 01:04:33,469 --> 01:04:39,149 ends and mean mortal men those are my waste. More time 599 01:04:56,380 --> 01:05:00,663 Immediately following Joseph who turned to his passionate plea. 600 01:05:00,664 --> 01:05:05,969 Over a thousand miners decided to leave the mountain and make their way home 601 01:05:29,410 --> 01:05:32,988 We have been in negotiations with his gathering for 602 01:05:32,989 --> 01:05:38,974 quite a few days and part of that was that simple can reach an epic Amoco solution 603 01:05:38,975 --> 01:05:41,598 for them to drop the weapons and 604 01:05:41,599 --> 01:05:46,474 disperse unfortunately it doesn't seem as if negotiations have proven 605 01:05:46,475 --> 01:05:49,548 successful and these are complete service is going to 606 01:05:49,549 --> 01:05:52,788 have to go over to the tactical phase to ensure that we 607 01:05:52,789 --> 01:05:59,479 take weapons away from from those gathered yet for that I need or the media. 608 01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:07,480 Beyond our vehicles There's still a culture is why would go up by 609 01:06:09,169 --> 01:06:13,009 a pair their pillars and the Hebei piously yeah see 610 01:06:13,010 --> 01:06:18,348 an allele that is y stem multiple times untidy upon 611 01:06:18,349 --> 01:06:26,349 us by law siRNA complex machine the TTL older mumbo jumbo shoe 612 01:06:28,159 --> 01:06:36,159 ouch or whatever it is well known as the arm the Glenda copy me Muslim gain Glenda 613 01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:46,478 or dancing or my leg or Lama dot Since we 614 01:06:46,479 --> 01:06:52,538 didn't go Maya two daughters to non-natural long 615 01:06:52,539 --> 01:07:00,539 bound by law to 616 01:07:02,209 --> 01:07:03,650 perform 617 01:07:08,290 --> 01:07:13,239 these will oppose 618 01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:17,709 tell us up hot tub is first 619 01:07:17,710 --> 01:07:25,710 of all our customers 620 01:07:51,220 --> 01:07:52,608 On 621 01:07:52,609 --> 01:07:53,939 The other 622 01:08:06,100 --> 01:08:08,549 side 623 01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:17,760 Just like 624 01:08:33,370 --> 01:08:35,559 that 625 01:09:27,260 --> 01:09:28,598 I 626 01:09:28,599 --> 01:09:30,070 Agree 627 01:09:51,460 --> 01:09:53,760 Right 628 01:10:41,260 --> 01:10:47,448 Who independently Jong helium neon 629 01:10:47,449 --> 01:10:53,799 in Canada falling enzyme land filling 630 01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:06,689 Bomba 631 01:11:38,740 --> 01:11:42,089 And eventually 632 01:12:02,670 --> 01:12:06,619 if I think of 633 01:12:06,620 --> 01:12:14,620 it as 634 01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,188 15 to 20 minutes 635 01:12:19,189 --> 01:12:23,793 after the initial shooting All the commanders should have sit. 636 01:12:23,794 --> 01:12:28,564 What you've shot How many people stand up 637 01:12:28,565 --> 01:12:35,520 stand up they went and carried on a hunting down people for 20 minutes 638 01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:11,538 When I saw what the commission and the police call s2. 639 01:13:11,539 --> 01:13:17,178 Which is the small copy is several 100 meters away from the stuff we saw on television. 640 01:13:17,179 --> 01:13:21,420 It is clear that this was nothing like what had happened at the fussy 641 01:14:01,030 --> 01:14:08,628 In Norway and say chi of a wild west isobar isobar telecom 642 01:14:08,629 --> 01:14:13,728 but we know 643 01:14:13,729 --> 01:14:17,599 from the examination of the scene pi friends and 644 01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:21,903 officers that for example they found cartridges. 645 01:14:21,904 --> 01:14:24,619 On tops of the rocks we knew that they found 646 01:14:24,620 --> 01:14:28,099 dead bodies at the bottom of the rocks yeah Would conclude there is 647 01:14:28,100 --> 01:14:31,308 a strong possibility that officers stood 648 01:14:31,309 --> 01:14:34,638 and short people who were at the bottom of the rock I mean you're talking 649 01:14:34,639 --> 01:14:36,349 you at distance of 650 01:14:36,350 --> 01:14:40,278 perhaps only 234 meters the police seem to 651 01:14:40,279 --> 01:14:44,239 stick to this self-defense story they kept repeating the same thing even though it's 652 01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:46,579 blindingly obvious and yet dozens of 653 01:14:46,580 --> 01:14:49,699 witnesses saying talking about people trying to surrender being 654 01:14:49,700 --> 01:14:53,659 killed repeatedly shocked as they were trying to Syria and 655 01:14:53,660 --> 01:14:59,099 much as once coming up to three times with their hands shot repeatedly 656 01:15:31,900 --> 01:15:39,448 I went in and had killed they just accumulate and otherwise. 657 01:15:39,449 --> 01:15:47,449 None. Okay all right 658 01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:53,070 So yeah 659 01:15:54,280 --> 01:16:02,280 yeah yeah 660 01:16:10,710 --> 01:16:18,710 yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's where gamma 661 01:16:43,050 --> 01:16:51,050 Vertical you can book it doesn't really look good 662 01:16:52,960 --> 01:17:00,960 in some sense to put him 663 01:17:03,450 --> 01:17:08,109 to put people who 664 01:17:08,110 --> 01:17:16,110 need that So if whatever 665 01:17:26,870 --> 01:17:34,140 whatever. As likely 666 01:17:40,370 --> 01:17:47,310 to far this. 667 01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:53,080 Someone else 668 01:18:02,260 --> 01:18:07,458 Let us take note of the fact 669 01:18:07,459 --> 01:18:15,139 that whatever happened you represent the best opera responsible policing. 670 01:18:15,140 --> 01:18:18,918 You did what you did because you are being 671 01:18:18,919 --> 01:18:25,009 responsible you are making sure that you continue to live your 672 01:18:25,010 --> 01:18:33,010 own way of ensuring that South Africans are safe and that you are 673 01:18:34,610 --> 01:18:38,239 a citizen of this country and safety stats 674 01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:45,813 weekly But who looked out for the safety of our lowly paid miners. 675 01:18:45,814 --> 01:18:52,008 Surely it should have been those who work so tirelessly for our struggle for freedom. 676 01:18:52,009 --> 01:18:59,029 Those you now hold the reins of political power it is the time to 677 01:18:59,030 --> 01:19:02,598 point finger in the first place to point 678 01:19:02,599 --> 01:19:06,693 fingers at those whose fingers pulled the trigger. 679 01:19:06,694 --> 01:19:10,624 But the foot soldiers. 680 01:19:10,625 --> 01:19:14,688 What about those who pulled the strings. 681 01:19:14,689 --> 01:19:19,759 Who gave the orders and who are they tell me who 682 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:24,858 are the Minister of police The President. 683 01:19:24,859 --> 01:19:28,759 The. He's got the answer this is 684 01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:32,838 what we want to see from a commission and the President and the Ministers 685 01:19:32,839 --> 01:19:36,259 in a security cluster I've been there and know how it 686 01:19:36,260 --> 01:19:41,299 works and if the police carried out without that kind of 687 01:19:41,300 --> 01:19:45,949 instruction then what are they guilty of in 688 01:19:45,950 --> 01:19:51,198 terms of the way they dealt with that situation you see heads need to 689 01:19:51,199 --> 01:19:54,888 role at a very high level and we don't want to 690 01:19:54,889 --> 01:20:00,799 see a commission of inquiry that white washes things that 691 01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:07,909 keeps the lid on In the end we'll apportion blame to the strike is to the Union 692 01:20:07,910 --> 01:20:12,349 splits to the mine owners and so on what 693 01:20:12,350 --> 01:20:17,999 about the politicians who are the ones responsible 694 01:20:47,390 --> 01:20:51,369 And you've got. 695 01:20:59,920 --> 01:21:02,210 You've got to 696 01:21:23,740 --> 01:21:24,909 do 697 01:21:24,910 --> 01:21:28,859 That Suppose 698 01:21:37,900 --> 01:21:40,388 I have a lambda must hold. 699 01:21:40,389 --> 01:21:48,389 Which you had cloud and I can reduce the amount of oil is Apple data model 700 01:21:52,990 --> 01:22:00,990 and map I would have a map of the baton as it had done 701 01:22:03,409 --> 01:22:05,568 an example 702 01:22:05,569 --> 01:22:13,569 lambda Marco But 703 01:22:29,480 --> 01:22:32,700 what I would 704 01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:47,790 assume 705 01:22:55,270 --> 01:22:57,629 She's 706 01:23:21,370 --> 01:23:27,510 a fail-stop error bound South Africa. 707 01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:37,080 Get the plateau days up 75 It told us about 708 01:23:49,900 --> 01:23:57,900 how the central change out 709 01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:11,880 the finest de comprendre et 710 01:24:14,749 --> 01:24:17,389 cetera I 711 01:24:23,450 --> 01:24:31,450 will explain 712 01:24:33,790 --> 01:24:40,539 exactly how to answer 713 01:24:56,540 --> 01:24:59,829 that way To 714 01:25:23,270 --> 01:25:27,809 my shock 64422

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