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MAN: So, what we're gonna do is,
we're gonna play back
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some of the band's new songs.
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There'll be no cameras allowed
in there.
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There'll be no video,
no bags in there.
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You can only walk in
with paper and a pencil.
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MAN: We're ready.
HARMON: Are there any questions?
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["FRANTIC" PLAYING]
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You want a single?
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MAN:
Camera over here.
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[BEEPING]
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REPORTER: Was there ever
a moment you thought about stopping
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with Metallica or the whole band
was falling apart?
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Was it a kind of a power struggle
between you and him?
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REPORTER 2: How did you
manage to solve this crisis?
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REPORTER 3: Where in God's name
are you getting this aggression from
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on this new album?
Where's it coming from?
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REPORTER 4:
Why did it take so long to release
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an album with the new songs?
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After 20 years,
is it possible to retain the fire
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that, you know, you guys once had
at the beginning?
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Do you think the young generation of
metal fans will accept the new album?
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REPORTER 5:
Eighty-five million records, 22 years.
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I think it's 11 albums
and various official releases.
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One word.
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[HETFIELD LAUGHS]
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Oh, my God.
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One word to span our career?
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
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[SINGS] We are scanning the scene
In the city tonight
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We're looking for you
To start up a fight
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There is an evil feeling in our brains
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But it's nothing new
You know it drives us insane
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Running, on our way
Hiding, you will pay
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Dying, 1,000 deaths
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Running, on our way
Hiding, you will pay
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Dying, 1,000 deaths
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Searching
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Seek and destroy
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Searching
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Seek and destroy
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HETFIELD:
Thank you!
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[CHEERING]
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After 14 years of headbanging,
Metallica bassist Jason Newsted
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has quit the band, citing:
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"Private and personal reasons
and the physical damage that I've done
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to myself over the years
while playing the music I love."
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Metallica's management had no
comment when asked by MTV News
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if there's a replacement
waiting in the wings.
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But the band is still scheduled to begin
recording a new album this spring.
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That's the news for now.
Stay tuned for more news.
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MAN: I mean, I think
everybody understands
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the concept of trusting instincts.
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That's getting to a place where
you don't let egos and let stuff
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get in the way of artistic expression.
You know?
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Do you wanna say anything more
about that? Everybody understands...
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TOWLE: I met Metallica through
Q Prime Management,
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after having seen me work
with another band of theirs,
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when they called
and said that Metallica,
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with Jason announcing
that he was exiting the group,
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needed to take a look
at itself and say:
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"Well, what's going on here? We've lost
touch with our personal relationships,"
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and face some of the issues that I think
Q Prime felt that they were headed for.
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You know, we haven't really worked
together for almost nine months.
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When we were talking a couple
of days ago about whether--
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You know, if we wanted
to do this film or not,
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I was wondering if having these
guys in here would affect that.
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Because I'm just--
There's an intimacy that you get
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when it's just a few people
in the room,
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and I'm just wondering
if that's gonna get lost,
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if we're gonna go back
to sort of, like,
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battling each other and trying
to be, like, all strong and--
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What intimacy?
What the fuck are you talking about?
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[LAUGHING]
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TOWLE: I think, to me, it's not gonna
be a matter of whether
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the cameras are in play,
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but whether or not you guys
are free enough
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to risk being seen by other people.
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HARMON: We're here in the Presidio
in San Francisco,
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and this is gonna be the location
where Metallica
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is gonna start recording
their next album.
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MAN: We decided that we didn't
wanna go back into a studio again
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and do kind of, like, the same thing
we had done before.
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We had to kind of change things up.
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And this is one of the things
that we talked about,
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was to go into a space
that's not a studio,
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bring in kind of, like, a portable studio
or a makeshift studio,
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and basically make
the situation uncomfortable.
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HARMON: You know, don't buy
new furniture, don't paint the walls.
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Don't do anything.
Just keep it Spartan, keep it crude.
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They're such a success
that you can get comfortable.
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I don't think they wanna be
comfortable.
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There's definitely a vibe in here.
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They got a lot of attitude,
and I think they want it
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to come out on this next album.
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How did you approach
this record differently?
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Did you talk about things, did you
have ideas, keywords, things like that,
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that you wanted to put across
before you started
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putting the whole thing together?
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Well, ego was a big one.
Coming in here
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and not bringing a riff,
not bringing a song,
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not bringing a title. Nothing.
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Me and James did not meet
somewhere else
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and come in here with material,
with songs, with music.
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This time we all got in a room
and just started playing.
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And that's how we wrote songs.
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[PLAYING GUITAR]
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The idea is it should
sound like a band getting together
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in a garage for the first time.
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Only the band's Metallica.
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HETFIELD:
I really like going fast.
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Just go off and meditate
in the wind, you know.
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As corny as it sounds, it works,
and it feels good.
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It's a good way to just let the weight
of the world off every once in a while.
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It is-- It is kind of strange being,
you know,
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like, a famous guy. You know.
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[SIGHS]
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This is-- This is part of me
that's trying to be unfamous, I guess.
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But it's also
go-against-the-rules attitude.
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You know, is this a big pose?
I mean, yes, this is a pose.
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I mean, am I driving down the street
to not get noticed in this thing?
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I mean, "rebellious" is kind of
what this says, I would say.
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- Have you got a plug-in here?
- Wait.
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So, what exactly are you doing?
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ROCK: Well, you'll just hold it
above the pickups.
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HAMMETT:
Oh, okay. I got you.
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[GUITAR FEEDBACK]
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HETFIELD:
Yeah!
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Give me fuel, give me fire
Give me that which I desire
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I got some bad news.
Gonna have to--
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Change the lyrics?
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I like this thing, Bob.
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- What?
- I like this thing.
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ULRICH: I used to kid myself that art
was my great escape away from music.
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And I think I've become
increasingly aware
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that my interest in art, music
and Metallica
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is not separate from anything.
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You know, where does he feel
that there's enough
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of that kind of gold thing?
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How come there isn't
another 20 strokes
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up in that black area up there,
where it's kind of bare?
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Where are the starting points
and the end points,
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if you know what I mean?
When's a song done?
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What the fuck does
that mean, anyway? Done.
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When's a record done?
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You know, where does a record start?
Where does it end?
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Where does the process start?
Where does the process end?
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All that type of stuff.
Do you know what I mean?
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GIRL: Daddy!
- It's really interesting.
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Yes, sweetie.
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
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I don't feel anything great there.
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HAMMETT: I don't think
it's that great of a riff either.
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- How do you hear the riff then?
ROCK: I like that:
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[IMITATING GUITAR]
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And then:
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HAMMETT:
Yeah.
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[PLAYING MUSIC]
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In nine days, it'll be
my two-year anniversary of surfing.
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It's taken the place of a lot
of bad things in my life.
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So I basically stopped doing
the drugs that I was doing
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and cut way back on my drinking.
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You can't surf
when you're hung-over.
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You can't surf if you've been up
all night. Well, at least I can't.
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There's a sort of individualism,
also, about surfing that I like.
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I mean, when it's your moment, man,
that's your moment and yours alone.
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And no one can help you.
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[TROLLEY BELL RINGING]
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ULRICH: For all intents and purposes,
we go into this record completely equal.
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Everybody contributing
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just as much on the lyric front
as James contributing
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with drum parts and...
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As soon as you started talking
about that, I just like...
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HETFIELD:
Yeah. Yeah. You flash back now.
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Well...
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You wanna hear it with vocals?
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Go sing it.
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You guys had some rules
about that before.
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Quite frankly, I don't give a fuck.
I'm tired of arguing.
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You couldn't talk about his lyrics,
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therefore, he couldn't talk about
your drumming.
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ULRICH: Right.
ROCK: Do you know what I mean?
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And you and him did the solos,
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so you weren't allowed to comment
on the solos.
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Do you know what I mean?
There was, like, rules.
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Are you telling me that
those boundaries are gone now?
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[LAUGHING]
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ULRICH:
In the past, what we did was
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started with a bunch of ideas existing
on tape from everybody.
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Then me and James would sit down
and turn those ideas into songs.
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And then we would tell the rest
of the band what to play
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and when to play
and how to play it.
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There was never any,
just, other ways of doing it.
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HETFIELD: You know,
it's a whole new thing for me.
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You know, writing in front
of everybody,
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because I've always just gone
into my own head
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and wrote stuff down,
instead of taking things from outside
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and putting them down.
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ROCK: What I was thinking is, is like--
"These are the hands that--"
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"This is the face that--"
So it's, like--
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HETFIELD: Building
a Frankenstein or something?
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- Yeah. Pretty much.
ULRICH: Building what?
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HETFIELD: A Frankenstein.
- "This is the top of my head that's flat."
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"These are my bolts..."
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HAMMETT: We're on the same
stream of consciousness here.
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We're just all working
on the same creative wavelength.
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And it's inspiring to me.
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Now I can further express myself
with these lyrics
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now that, you know, James has
opened that door for Lars and I.
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- This is "clay," right?
HAMMETT: Yeah.
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- Not "clam."
- Clay.
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"These hands finger the clam."
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[SINGS] These are the eyes
That can't see through me
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This is the tongue
That speaks on the inside
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ROCK: Make sure you really, like,
spit "can't see me."
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ROCK: These are the eyes
That can't see me!
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These are the eyes
That can't see me
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These are the hands
That drop your trust
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- "This is the--"
- Yeah.
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This is the eye--
Yeah.
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This is the eye
That can't see me
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This is the hand
That drops your trust
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These are the boots
That kick you around
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This is the voice of silence no more
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ROCK: What is this about?
HETFIELD: Well, I mean,
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I said Frankenstein. It's not that far off,
talking about pieces of things.
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So, I mean, some kind of monster.
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Some kind of monster?
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- You know?
BOTH: Some kind of monster.
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ULRICH: It is-- It is good.
HETFIELD: You know what I mean?
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HAMMETT:
I like that.
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[SINGS]
Some kind of monster
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Some kind of monster
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The monster lives
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TOWLE: "We come now to create
our album of life.
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Throughout our individual
and collective journeys,
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sometimes through pain and conflict,
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we've discovered the true meaning
of family.
238
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As we accomplish ultimate
togetherness,
239
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we become healers of ourselves
240
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and the countless who embrace us
and our message.
241
00:15:27,248 --> 00:15:28,647
We have learned,
and we understand.
242
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Now we must share."
243
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- So that's just--
- A mission statement.
244
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HETFIELD: A what statement?
HAMMETT: Mission statement.
245
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HETFIELD: Mission?
- Yeah, mission.
246
00:15:37,888 --> 00:15:40,356
- It's like-- You know, it sets a goal,
HETFIELD: Right.
247
00:15:40,568 --> 00:15:44,642
so you just can, like, just always be
reminded of, you know--
248
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You know, what the ultimate goal is.
249
00:15:48,969 --> 00:15:50,402
HETFIELD:
All right.
250
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
251
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[SINGS] It's my world, you can't have it
It's my world, you can't have it
252
00:15:58,489 --> 00:16:01,083
It's my world, you can't have it
253
00:16:01,209 --> 00:16:07,318
It's my world, my world
You can't have it
254
00:16:07,649 --> 00:16:09,560
Sucker!
255
00:16:13,569 --> 00:16:14,922
ROCK:
Excellent.
256
00:16:15,089 --> 00:16:16,408
[BABY CRYING]
257
00:16:16,569 --> 00:16:17,797
HETFIELD:
Come on, little man. Let's go.
258
00:16:17,969 --> 00:16:19,322
FRANCESCA:
Skylar, do you want your purse?
259
00:16:19,489 --> 00:16:21,764
CHILD 1: Daddy.
CHILD 2: I'll come. I'll come.
260
00:16:21,929 --> 00:16:25,080
Come, Daddy. Come, Daddy.
261
00:16:28,249 --> 00:16:30,080
ULRICH:
I don't know how you guys feel,
262
00:16:30,249 --> 00:16:32,160
but it's really awesome
what we're doing.
263
00:16:32,369 --> 00:16:34,405
The four of us can just go
in a fucking room
264
00:16:34,569 --> 00:16:36,560
and roll that kind of shit
out of our sleeves.
265
00:16:36,769 --> 00:16:37,963
Pull it out of thin air, man.
266
00:16:38,129 --> 00:16:41,247
It's so exciting, because
that has just never happened before.
267
00:16:41,410 --> 00:16:45,767
I couldn't get to sleep last night,
because I was still wired from it all.
268
00:16:50,410 --> 00:16:53,561
How do you feel? You don't
seem really psyched about it.
269
00:17:03,930 --> 00:17:05,761
ROCK:
What the hell.
270
00:17:05,930 --> 00:17:07,329
[CHATTER]
271
00:17:07,770 --> 00:17:11,206
- How's it going? Good to see you.
- Yeah, thank you.
272
00:17:11,370 --> 00:17:13,565
ULRICH: How many bears did you kill?
HETFIELD: Two.
273
00:17:13,850 --> 00:17:15,647
Russia's fucked up.
You know, it was like,
274
00:17:15,810 --> 00:17:18,119
you put a bottle of water here
on the table.
275
00:17:18,290 --> 00:17:20,520
That was it, a bottle of vodka
sitting there.
276
00:17:21,130 --> 00:17:22,529
ULRICH: Did you drink vodka?
HETFIELD: Hell, yeah.
277
00:17:22,690 --> 00:17:25,124
ULRICH: You did?
- What else is there to drink?
278
00:17:25,290 --> 00:17:28,248
As soon as you got there,
it was like, "Na zdoroviya!"
279
00:17:28,450 --> 00:17:30,406
Na zdoroviya!
280
00:17:30,570 --> 00:17:32,208
HAMMETT:
That's a pretty big bear.
281
00:17:32,370 --> 00:17:35,363
- Is bear edible?
- They were no good to eat.
282
00:17:35,531 --> 00:17:37,487
That freaked me out when
they didn't take any meat.
283
00:17:37,691 --> 00:17:39,682
You know, they have been hibernating
for three months,
284
00:17:39,891 --> 00:17:41,449
so they haven't pissed or shit
or nothing.
285
00:17:41,611 --> 00:17:43,602
HAMMETT: Oh, so they're toxic?
HETFIELD: Yeah.
286
00:17:43,771 --> 00:17:45,124
Third day, I killed my bear,
287
00:17:45,291 --> 00:17:47,282
and I was just in camp
for the rest of the time.
288
00:17:47,491 --> 00:17:48,810
I was like, "Oh, my God."
289
00:17:48,971 --> 00:17:51,565
ULRICH: Worked on lyrics?
- Yeah. I actually did.
290
00:17:51,691 --> 00:17:54,125
That was a lot of time, man.
291
00:17:54,291 --> 00:17:55,519
A lot of time.
292
00:17:55,691 --> 00:17:56,965
ROCK:
I worked on lyrics in Siberia.
293
00:17:57,131 --> 00:18:00,123
HETFIELD: How to drink vodka
and work on lyrics.
294
00:18:00,291 --> 00:18:04,409
[SINGS] Temptation
Wreck my head
295
00:18:04,571 --> 00:18:08,644
Temptation
Make you dead
296
00:18:08,811 --> 00:18:12,963
Temptation
Sucks my soul
297
00:18:13,131 --> 00:18:17,966
Temptation
Fill no hole
298
00:18:23,771 --> 00:18:26,922
Temptation
299
00:18:29,931 --> 00:18:34,767
Fuck you up
Temptation
300
00:18:39,452 --> 00:18:43,127
No, no, no, no
I can't say no
301
00:18:43,292 --> 00:18:46,762
Can't say no
No
302
00:18:46,932 --> 00:18:50,163
No
No, no, no
303
00:18:50,332 --> 00:18:53,051
Can't say no
304
00:18:53,212 --> 00:18:57,205
Oh, no
I can't say no
305
00:19:00,372 --> 00:19:03,284
Go away
306
00:19:03,452 --> 00:19:06,364
Leave me be
307
00:19:09,372 --> 00:19:12,887
Just leave me be
308
00:19:13,052 --> 00:19:16,886
MAN: So, what were the
reactions you got from those close?
309
00:19:17,052 --> 00:19:19,771
I mean, how did the family react?
310
00:19:20,372 --> 00:19:22,727
HETFIELD: I'm just-- I don't know.
Sometimes I'm a real ass about it
311
00:19:22,892 --> 00:19:25,122
and just come in and say,
"Oh, by the way,
312
00:19:25,292 --> 00:19:27,204
I'm going to Russia for two weeks
right here."
313
00:19:27,373 --> 00:19:29,603
You know, and, "What?" You know.
314
00:19:29,773 --> 00:19:31,923
Yeah, I'm getting better at that,
you know,
315
00:19:32,133 --> 00:19:37,127
because that was the most
I missed my family ever.
316
00:19:37,293 --> 00:19:38,726
- You know?
- Right.
317
00:19:38,893 --> 00:19:41,487
And it was, you know,
Castor's first birthday I missed.
318
00:19:41,613 --> 00:19:43,126
- Right.
- And it was--
319
00:19:43,293 --> 00:19:47,445
Of course, we had a little vodka
to Castor.
320
00:19:47,613 --> 00:19:49,444
Did a little shot for him
and everything.
321
00:19:49,613 --> 00:19:54,209
But I would've loved to have
been able to get ahold of home.
322
00:19:58,933 --> 00:20:00,332
[PLAYING GUITAR]
323
00:20:04,293 --> 00:20:06,124
Who's here?
324
00:20:06,293 --> 00:20:08,170
MYLES:
This is Daddy working.
325
00:20:09,053 --> 00:20:11,362
- This is where Dad works?
- Yeah.
326
00:20:11,533 --> 00:20:13,524
- What does your dad do for work?
- Drums.
327
00:20:13,733 --> 00:20:16,406
HETFIELD: He plays drums?
- Yeah.
328
00:20:16,573 --> 00:20:18,768
- Let me play drums.
HETFIELD: Is he good at it?
329
00:20:21,533 --> 00:20:24,924
- Daddy, wanna play drums?
- I played drums a lot today already.
330
00:20:25,134 --> 00:20:26,886
I'm okay. You play for a while.
331
00:20:27,294 --> 00:20:28,852
[SINGS]
332
00:20:33,414 --> 00:20:34,403
[LAUGHING]
333
00:20:35,294 --> 00:20:37,524
NEWSTED: Those guys,
- That's very good.
334
00:20:37,734 --> 00:20:40,373
you know, their plate is filled
with many, many things.
335
00:20:40,534 --> 00:20:42,570
And music is just one of the things.
336
00:20:42,734 --> 00:20:44,372
- Say, "Bye, James."
- Bye, James.
337
00:20:44,534 --> 00:20:45,762
Bye, buddy.
338
00:20:45,934 --> 00:20:49,370
NEWSTED: I chose not to have
children and do those kind of things.
339
00:20:49,534 --> 00:20:52,606
My music, that's my children.
You know?
340
00:20:52,774 --> 00:20:54,730
ULRICH: Daddy's gonna stay and
work for a little while.
341
00:20:54,894 --> 00:20:58,443
But since I decided to do it
with music,
342
00:20:58,614 --> 00:21:00,730
then that's what I have
to fill my time with.
343
00:21:06,134 --> 00:21:10,047
Echobrain is one of the projects
that I've been working on for years.
344
00:21:10,414 --> 00:21:12,484
And now it's come to fruition.
345
00:21:12,854 --> 00:21:17,326
And then when it comes to the time
where my main cat, James,
346
00:21:17,495 --> 00:21:22,091
tells me that basically
he couldn't be in a band with me
347
00:21:22,255 --> 00:21:26,567
if I did the--
Took this other project to this level.
348
00:21:26,735 --> 00:21:30,489
And after 15 years of working
together and going on buses
349
00:21:30,695 --> 00:21:32,970
and, you know, the stories, man...
350
00:21:33,135 --> 00:21:34,966
There was no way that this thing
that I was doing
351
00:21:35,135 --> 00:21:39,492
could affect the monster of Metallica.
I just don't see how it could.
352
00:21:39,695 --> 00:21:41,253
And so-- And saying things like that,
353
00:21:41,415 --> 00:21:44,134
I couldn't accept that kind of
354
00:21:46,015 --> 00:21:49,690
limited acceptance.
355
00:21:49,855 --> 00:21:52,847
I also know that this relationship
is not over.
356
00:21:53,015 --> 00:21:55,483
You know, he'll-- It'll come
around again at some point.
357
00:21:55,695 --> 00:21:57,014
You guys will make contact.
358
00:21:57,175 --> 00:21:58,767
NEWSTED:
At that time the managers suggested
359
00:21:58,935 --> 00:22:01,290
that we have a psychotherapist
come in,
360
00:22:01,455 --> 00:22:03,491
a man that meets
with pro-ball teams,
361
00:22:03,695 --> 00:22:07,608
you know, big-ego, big-dollar guys
that can't get along
362
00:22:07,775 --> 00:22:10,926
but have to make
some kind of entity flow
363
00:22:11,135 --> 00:22:14,685
so everybody else and everybody
can make their money.
364
00:22:14,856 --> 00:22:18,007
And I actually said:
365
00:22:18,176 --> 00:22:23,489
"I think that this is
really fucking lame
366
00:22:23,696 --> 00:22:28,292
and weak that we
cannot get together. Us.
367
00:22:28,456 --> 00:22:33,325
Look, the biggest heavy band
of all time.
368
00:22:33,496 --> 00:22:36,169
And the things we've been through,
and decisions we've made
369
00:22:36,336 --> 00:22:40,295
about squillions of dollars
and squillions of people.
370
00:22:40,456 --> 00:22:44,688
And this, we can't get over this?"
371
00:22:48,136 --> 00:22:50,127
REPORTER: Was it more than
just the Echobrain thing?
372
00:22:50,296 --> 00:22:54,289
Because that's, like, you know,
what has been discussed.
373
00:22:54,456 --> 00:22:58,768
HETFIELD: He felt like he wasn't free
enough to do what he needed to do.
374
00:22:58,936 --> 00:23:04,568
Since he wasn't getting his creativity
out enough in Metallica,
375
00:23:04,736 --> 00:23:06,294
he needed to get it out
somewhere else.
376
00:23:06,456 --> 00:23:09,130
And I totally understand that now.
377
00:23:09,297 --> 00:23:11,049
And...
378
00:23:12,777 --> 00:23:15,928
On my side of that was,
379
00:23:16,137 --> 00:23:19,766
I didn't want him to enjoy that
more than Metallica.
380
00:23:19,937 --> 00:23:23,373
I didn't want anyone
to leave Metallica.
381
00:23:23,537 --> 00:23:27,928
I didn't want to feel
that we weren't enough
382
00:23:28,137 --> 00:23:30,287
or something like that.
383
00:23:30,457 --> 00:23:31,776
[SIGHS]
384
00:23:31,937 --> 00:23:35,532
And it was-- Through my--
385
00:23:35,737 --> 00:23:38,205
I guess the way I learned how
to love things
386
00:23:38,377 --> 00:23:40,607
was just to choke them to death.
387
00:23:40,777 --> 00:23:43,769
You know?
"Don't go anywhere. Don't leave."
388
00:23:43,937 --> 00:23:46,451
You know?
"You have to stay here."
389
00:23:57,137 --> 00:23:59,207
[BAND PLAYING]
390
00:24:11,898 --> 00:24:13,695
WOMAN:
Okay.
391
00:24:14,978 --> 00:24:17,094
Need a pen, none of this pencil shit.
392
00:24:17,298 --> 00:24:19,368
Check it out, man,
he can't even fucking spell it right.
393
00:24:19,538 --> 00:24:23,497
"Metllica."
We've only been together 20 years.
394
00:24:46,378 --> 00:24:49,609
I feel guilty that I'm not inspired
all the time.
395
00:24:49,818 --> 00:24:52,332
You know, especially
when everyone else is.
396
00:24:52,538 --> 00:24:55,450
It's like, "Okay."
We kind of get to the point
397
00:24:55,618 --> 00:24:58,610
where the song is looped twice
in the Pro Tools,
398
00:24:58,778 --> 00:25:02,454
and I know Bob's gonna hit me up
for some kind of lyric ideas.
399
00:25:02,619 --> 00:25:06,294
"Oh, shit." I was, like,
dreading the whole process.
400
00:25:06,459 --> 00:25:10,168
It's like, "Why are you dreading it?
Why don't you just--?"
401
00:25:10,339 --> 00:25:12,011
TOWLE: Well, you're dreading it
because of what?
402
00:25:12,179 --> 00:25:15,012
- Let's get to the fear.
- Well, because I didn't have anything.
403
00:25:15,179 --> 00:25:16,578
TOWLE: And so if
you didn't have anything--
404
00:25:16,739 --> 00:25:18,809
Wasn't inspired enough
to have something
405
00:25:18,979 --> 00:25:21,698
or letting down the
team or some vibe like that.
406
00:25:21,859 --> 00:25:25,329
One, two, three, five.
407
00:25:34,299 --> 00:25:37,769
[SINGS]
Say it, I'm lonely, yeah
408
00:25:38,939 --> 00:25:42,932
Motherfucking in my head
409
00:25:43,139 --> 00:25:45,937
It's like I'm almost,
like, racing against time.
410
00:25:46,139 --> 00:25:48,289
There's, like, weird-ass fear of like:
411
00:25:48,459 --> 00:25:50,336
"I gotta come up with something
myself really quick
412
00:25:50,539 --> 00:25:52,769
before somebody else comes up
with something for me."
413
00:25:52,939 --> 00:25:55,932
And then if I don't like it
or don't 100 percent embrace it,
414
00:25:56,140 --> 00:25:59,689
then I'm just being a selfish,
you know, insular asshole.
415
00:25:59,900 --> 00:26:03,210
It's a fear response.
When we're up against a fear,
416
00:26:03,380 --> 00:26:06,452
that's the time to move into it,
forward.
417
00:26:06,620 --> 00:26:08,656
Because there's going to be
some kind of genius there
418
00:26:08,820 --> 00:26:11,050
or some kind of breakthrough.
419
00:26:11,220 --> 00:26:14,769
[SINGS]
Motherfucker, yeah
420
00:26:33,900 --> 00:26:38,212
Metallica. Metallica.
421
00:26:46,460 --> 00:26:48,132
HETFIELD:
Kirk.
422
00:26:48,900 --> 00:26:50,619
Kirk.
423
00:26:51,301 --> 00:26:52,893
Kirk. Kirk!
424
00:26:55,341 --> 00:26:57,650
- Kirk.
ULRICH: Kirk!
425
00:26:57,821 --> 00:26:59,334
- Kirk.
ULRICH: Kirk!
426
00:26:59,501 --> 00:27:00,695
HAMMETT: Yes.
HETFIELD: Kirk.
427
00:27:00,901 --> 00:27:03,540
ULRICH: James is trying to talk to you.
- Sorry, man.
428
00:27:03,701 --> 00:27:05,657
Yeah, it's a bit stock.
429
00:27:05,821 --> 00:27:07,891
Check it out, guys.
430
00:27:17,821 --> 00:27:20,210
HETFIELD: I don't know how you feel.
I'm in a shit mood.
431
00:27:20,381 --> 00:27:24,169
And I'm not digging it right now.
432
00:27:24,541 --> 00:27:27,260
Even last night, I gotta tell you,
everybody kind of looked--
433
00:27:27,421 --> 00:27:30,174
I hate to tell you, looked pretty burnt.
434
00:27:30,341 --> 00:27:32,172
I agree.
435
00:27:32,341 --> 00:27:35,492
HETFIELD: And if we don't start earlier
and end earlier, I'm just--
436
00:27:35,661 --> 00:27:39,734
I'm not gonna be in a good mood
for the rest of this shit, you know?
437
00:27:54,942 --> 00:27:57,172
HAMMETT:
That was totally weird for me.
438
00:27:57,342 --> 00:27:58,570
You hear that, Bob?
439
00:27:58,742 --> 00:28:01,620
Why don't you try getting
a more solid beat.
440
00:28:01,782 --> 00:28:04,535
ULRICH: Regular.
- Oh, well, you can call it regular.
441
00:28:04,702 --> 00:28:07,614
ULRICH: You called it regular.
- No, I'm trying not to call it regular,
442
00:28:07,782 --> 00:28:10,137
because I know it bugs you
when I call it regular.
443
00:28:10,302 --> 00:28:12,611
So a little more solid, then.
444
00:28:25,542 --> 00:28:27,134
Fuck!
445
00:28:27,302 --> 00:28:29,213
HAMMETT: Maybe we should talk
about next week.
446
00:28:29,622 --> 00:28:31,214
HETFIELD:
Well, all next week is therapy.
447
00:28:31,382 --> 00:28:33,418
ULRICH:
Yeah.
448
00:28:33,582 --> 00:28:37,177
HETFIELD: Do we have to do that?
Can we sack Phil?
449
00:28:38,302 --> 00:28:43,775
I mean, we gotta find--
We gotta find a balance to not--
450
00:28:43,943 --> 00:28:45,615
You know, the Phil stuff's important,
451
00:28:45,783 --> 00:28:50,937
and I hope we all feel that that's
an investment in the music.
452
00:28:51,143 --> 00:28:53,941
It's an important part of the record.
453
00:28:59,783 --> 00:29:03,332
[SINGS]
Get all holy again
454
00:29:10,903 --> 00:29:13,497
Let me just go put one together.
455
00:29:19,983 --> 00:29:23,532
[OVER SPEAKERS]
Get all holy again
456
00:29:26,623 --> 00:29:28,420
It's just real confusing sounding.
457
00:29:28,583 --> 00:29:30,460
HETFIELD:
It's just jacking the vocals all up.
458
00:29:30,623 --> 00:29:32,454
I mean-- I mean,
it's clever and everything.
459
00:29:32,623 --> 00:29:36,059
But, I mean, I don't see
what it does to the--
460
00:29:36,223 --> 00:29:39,216
I think that's how you hear it, dude.
That's fine.
461
00:29:39,384 --> 00:29:41,693
I'm just trying to do something
different.
462
00:29:41,864 --> 00:29:47,222
I mean, I'm-- I'm used to having
the drummer do the beat part.
463
00:29:47,384 --> 00:29:50,774
You know what I mean?
Holding it together.
464
00:29:52,064 --> 00:29:55,613
What I'm hearing is...
465
00:29:56,904 --> 00:29:59,623
Choose my words carefully here.
466
00:30:00,984 --> 00:30:02,337
Um...
467
00:30:02,904 --> 00:30:06,533
It's pretty straightforward.
And the guitar shit, it's--
468
00:30:06,744 --> 00:30:08,462
You know, it's a little stock.
469
00:30:08,624 --> 00:30:12,697
So I started trying to introduce
some kind of edge to it on the drums.
470
00:30:13,224 --> 00:30:16,899
HETFIELD: Those things we throw out
to each other are complete bullshit.
471
00:30:17,064 --> 00:30:20,056
You know? "It sounds too stock.
It sounds too normal to me."
472
00:30:20,224 --> 00:30:22,454
I mean--
473
00:30:24,144 --> 00:30:26,453
You know what I mean?
You're saying this shit
474
00:30:26,624 --> 00:30:29,900
so you can get your point across
about doing a drum beat.
475
00:30:30,064 --> 00:30:33,535
I mean... You know,
it doesn't hold any water.
476
00:30:33,745 --> 00:30:35,542
ULRICH: To you.
HETFIELD: It doesn't.
477
00:30:35,745 --> 00:30:39,533
I think it's fucking stock. What--?
Which part of that is unclear to you?
478
00:30:39,865 --> 00:30:42,379
I think it sounds stock to my ears.
479
00:30:42,545 --> 00:30:44,456
I mean, do you want me
to write it down? I think--
480
00:30:44,625 --> 00:30:46,217
HETFIELD:
Oh, yeah, please write it down.
481
00:30:46,385 --> 00:30:47,704
It feels stock, okay?
482
00:30:47,865 --> 00:30:49,093
HETFIELD: I can't hear you.
- So l--
483
00:30:49,265 --> 00:30:51,779
No, when you say-- You're telling
me what to play, right now.
484
00:30:51,945 --> 00:30:54,300
You're telling me, "You should
play with what Kirk's doing."
485
00:30:54,505 --> 00:30:58,134
- And I'm telling you it's stock.
- Dude, fine.
486
00:30:58,305 --> 00:31:00,899
You know what, you guys, why don't
we just go in and hammer it out,
487
00:31:01,065 --> 00:31:04,102
all right, instead of hammering
on each other.
488
00:31:04,305 --> 00:31:06,978
We're in shit moods, and we're not
gonna get anything done here today.
489
00:31:07,145 --> 00:31:08,703
ULRICH:
All you wanna do is pick a fight.
490
00:31:08,865 --> 00:31:10,583
I don't wanna pick a fight.
491
00:31:10,905 --> 00:31:13,055
This is so silly.
You're just sitting there going:
492
00:31:13,225 --> 00:31:15,022
"I'm in a really pissy mood and--"
493
00:31:15,185 --> 00:31:17,699
HETFIELD: And I fucking told you
straight up that I was!
494
00:31:17,905 --> 00:31:19,543
- Right.
- And what are you trying to do?
495
00:31:19,705 --> 00:31:22,060
I'm not trying to do fucking shit.
496
00:31:22,225 --> 00:31:25,900
You're just sitting here
being a complete dick.
497
00:31:26,065 --> 00:31:29,979
You're-- You're really helping matters.
You're really good at that.
498
00:31:30,146 --> 00:31:33,138
I was straight up with you,
and I told you, I'm in a shit mood.
499
00:31:33,306 --> 00:31:37,094
And what have you been doing?
Fucking picking at me all night.
500
00:31:37,666 --> 00:31:40,499
Come on, guys.
We've got better things to do.
501
00:31:40,666 --> 00:31:43,703
HETFIELD:
Yeah, I do. I do.
502
00:32:02,586 --> 00:32:06,420
Metallica front man, James Hetfield,
has entered a rehabilitation facility
503
00:32:06,586 --> 00:32:10,420
to undergo treatment for alcoholism
and other undisclosed addictions.
504
00:32:10,586 --> 00:32:13,419
In a statement posted
on Metallica's official website,
505
00:32:13,586 --> 00:32:16,976
the band writes, "James has entered
an undisclosed facility,
506
00:32:17,146 --> 00:32:20,218
and he will continue to receive
treatment until further notice.
507
00:32:20,506 --> 00:32:22,861
Until then we have postponed
all current activities,
508
00:32:23,027 --> 00:32:25,222
including recording sessions
for our new album."
509
00:32:25,387 --> 00:32:29,426
Metallica, whose hard-partying ways
earned them the nickname Alcoholica,
510
00:32:29,627 --> 00:32:34,417
have been working on their follow-up
to the 1998 double disc...
511
00:33:09,467 --> 00:33:11,378
TORBEN: I think it's easy to see that,
in those days,
512
00:33:11,547 --> 00:33:17,383
Metallica brought a kind of
physicality to rock 'n' roll.
513
00:33:18,147 --> 00:33:20,582
Let's say the Beatles,
the Rolling Stones,
514
00:33:20,748 --> 00:33:24,218
you know, and all that inspired
some of the British rock music
515
00:33:24,388 --> 00:33:25,980
that then developed after that.
516
00:33:26,388 --> 00:33:29,027
And let's say the metal music
517
00:33:29,228 --> 00:33:31,867
and Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath
and all of that.
518
00:33:32,028 --> 00:33:34,826
And then, out of that again,
then, let's say,
519
00:33:34,988 --> 00:33:38,060
then came Lars
and all of that and being--
520
00:33:38,228 --> 00:33:42,380
So I think that they have certainly
a place in all of that, I think.
521
00:33:42,548 --> 00:33:45,301
Lars had a very good vision
at the time
522
00:33:45,468 --> 00:33:49,143
of where he saw that particular--
523
00:33:49,308 --> 00:33:51,902
You know, the metal music going,
because he could see it
524
00:33:52,068 --> 00:33:54,707
with European ears and eyes maybe.
525
00:33:54,868 --> 00:33:58,224
Don't you feel that it's great for you
526
00:33:58,428 --> 00:34:03,741
to have your father's perspective on
who you are and what you're doing?
527
00:34:03,908 --> 00:34:05,136
I think that's incredible.
528
00:34:05,308 --> 00:34:08,584
You talk about the lineage...
Which we did,
529
00:34:08,748 --> 00:34:10,466
we talked a little bit
about your grandfather.
530
00:34:10,628 --> 00:34:13,586
It's very difficult to admit it,
especially with him standing next to me.
531
00:34:13,748 --> 00:34:16,980
It's easier to talk about it
when he's not in my presence.
532
00:34:17,149 --> 00:34:21,427
But...
Of course it is.
533
00:34:21,589 --> 00:34:24,467
What would you--?
What would you say in private?
534
00:34:24,629 --> 00:34:26,585
- To who?
- To anybody, without him here.
535
00:34:26,749 --> 00:34:28,307
Say it.
You know, what would it be?
536
00:34:28,469 --> 00:34:31,302
Well, I mean, I've already said it
to you countless times.
537
00:34:31,469 --> 00:34:34,461
Well, have you said it to him?
538
00:34:35,509 --> 00:34:36,988
[LAUGHS]
539
00:34:37,469 --> 00:34:39,187
TOWLE:
You brought it up. I didn't bring it up.
540
00:34:39,349 --> 00:34:43,547
What is it you feel you've said
that you're not saying now?
541
00:34:43,709 --> 00:34:45,506
ULRICH: I think maybe
in some ways some of the--
542
00:34:45,669 --> 00:34:47,022
To me that's--
543
00:34:47,189 --> 00:34:51,705
Fear of status quo comes a little bit
from this direction over here.
544
00:34:52,749 --> 00:34:55,343
I think that--
I mean, there's nothing worse
545
00:34:55,549 --> 00:34:57,540
than when I have to go to him
and play the new record
546
00:34:57,709 --> 00:34:59,779
and know there's something
on there that sucks.
547
00:34:59,949 --> 00:35:03,828
And he can see right through that
in two and a half seconds flat.
548
00:35:04,989 --> 00:35:06,342
[MUSIC PLAYING OVER SPEAKERS]
549
00:35:41,470 --> 00:35:43,745
TOWLE:
Comments on that one?
550
00:35:45,190 --> 00:35:48,626
TORBEN:
I would say, you know, if you said:
551
00:35:48,790 --> 00:35:52,783
"If you were our adviser,
what would you say?"
552
00:35:52,950 --> 00:35:56,147
Then I would say, "Delete that."
553
00:35:58,550 --> 00:36:01,462
I mean-- I mean,
I don't know for you guys.
554
00:36:01,630 --> 00:36:05,180
For me, it doesn't cut it.
You know?
555
00:36:06,231 --> 00:36:08,108
- But--
- Interesting. I mean, it's interesting.
556
00:36:08,271 --> 00:36:10,944
You know, now-- I mean, other
than the people involved here,
557
00:36:11,151 --> 00:36:15,064
the only other people who've heard
any of this music is Cliff Burnstein.
558
00:36:15,231 --> 00:36:17,950
When Cliff Burnstein heard that, he
thought that should open the record.
559
00:36:18,151 --> 00:36:21,143
TORBEN:
Yeah. I mean, that could well be.
560
00:36:21,311 --> 00:36:24,940
But I'm pretty sure that--
561
00:36:25,151 --> 00:36:29,827
That I really-- That I really--
I really don't think so.
562
00:36:30,151 --> 00:36:34,303
You know?
I really don't think so.
563
00:36:35,071 --> 00:36:36,868
- Right.
TORBEN: For me, that--
564
00:36:37,151 --> 00:36:39,870
That doesn't sound right
or something. You know?
565
00:36:40,031 --> 00:36:44,263
Unless I'm a guy
that's kind of shouting
566
00:36:44,431 --> 00:36:46,820
in some kind of echo chamber.
567
00:36:47,031 --> 00:36:49,420
[LAUGHING]
568
00:37:05,752 --> 00:37:07,424
[SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY]
569
00:37:18,032 --> 00:37:19,943
TOWLE: So I think one
of our responsibilities here
570
00:37:20,112 --> 00:37:23,070
is to act like a band
that's still continuing.
571
00:37:23,232 --> 00:37:25,109
We're going on.
We're doing our exploring.
572
00:37:25,272 --> 00:37:28,469
We're exploring ourselves individually,
we're exploring our relationships.
573
00:37:28,632 --> 00:37:32,341
And we really need to get together,
talk about this,
574
00:37:32,512 --> 00:37:36,346
act like the band exists,
because it does exist.
575
00:37:36,592 --> 00:37:42,747
And if we don't do that,
then we are the coproducers
576
00:37:42,952 --> 00:37:45,671
of the process slipping off the planet.
577
00:37:47,032 --> 00:37:49,546
This is a bit
of a shit sandwich, though.
578
00:37:50,752 --> 00:37:54,142
What does it--?
The unravelling of a band?
579
00:37:54,312 --> 00:37:56,463
And then there were two?
580
00:37:57,273 --> 00:38:01,346
So a good friend of mine
phoned me.
581
00:38:01,553 --> 00:38:03,191
And he knew where James was.
582
00:38:03,353 --> 00:38:05,025
ULRICH: Really?
ROCK: Yeah.
583
00:38:05,193 --> 00:38:09,311
He couldn't even imagine James
doing anything for six months.
584
00:38:12,633 --> 00:38:15,147
I'm prepared for the worst.
585
00:38:15,873 --> 00:38:18,307
I'm pretty confident that, you know,
586
00:38:18,473 --> 00:38:21,465
we will come together
when the time is right.
587
00:38:21,633 --> 00:38:25,945
But knowing when
that time will come,
588
00:38:26,153 --> 00:38:28,144
or not knowing
when that time will come,
589
00:38:28,313 --> 00:38:31,032
is very, very uncomfortable.
590
00:38:31,473 --> 00:38:37,343
I hope that at some point
he will come back
591
00:38:37,553 --> 00:38:40,272
and try and finish the making
of this record.
592
00:38:42,193 --> 00:38:44,024
lf...
593
00:38:51,354 --> 00:38:53,629
If he walked away from Metallica,
I'm not sure
594
00:38:53,794 --> 00:38:56,149
that it would surprise me.
595
00:39:06,634 --> 00:39:08,306
[SINGS]
Say your prayers, little one
596
00:39:08,474 --> 00:39:13,992
Don't forget, my son
To include everyone
597
00:39:14,954 --> 00:39:19,789
ULRICH: I've always felt that James
was a softer, more caring,
598
00:39:20,034 --> 00:39:26,712
compassionate person than he
allowed himself to be to most people.
599
00:39:31,314 --> 00:39:34,147
I can remember
from the Dave Mustaine days,
600
00:39:34,314 --> 00:39:38,307
I mean, when him and Dave Mustaine,
these guys, they started right away
601
00:39:38,474 --> 00:39:42,023
with their big, you know,
chests beating and their mannerisms,
602
00:39:42,234 --> 00:39:45,192
and the whole thing was very much
about this kind of, like, macho--
603
00:39:45,354 --> 00:39:47,311
It was just, like--
I couldn't deal with that stuff.
604
00:39:47,475 --> 00:39:50,148
And looking back on, I mean,
what was that, 18, 19 years ago,
605
00:39:50,315 --> 00:39:53,990
I mean, I just felt so alienated,
because it was just so far removed
606
00:39:54,155 --> 00:39:56,953
from the upbringing
that I come from.
607
00:39:57,475 --> 00:39:59,386
Well, here's to you, my friends.
608
00:39:59,555 --> 00:40:03,150
ULRICH: But then, at the same time,
I'm starting to realizing now
609
00:40:03,315 --> 00:40:05,829
that the sort of depressive things
that show up
610
00:40:05,995 --> 00:40:07,986
as a result of the alcohol
and stuff like that,
611
00:40:08,155 --> 00:40:12,307
it was just very difficult for him
to communicate from the heart.
612
00:40:12,475 --> 00:40:14,386
- You want some or not?
ULRICH: And not hide behind
613
00:40:14,555 --> 00:40:15,954
a lot of these different fronts.
614
00:40:16,115 --> 00:40:19,630
Whether it's alcohol, that gives
him a false sense of strength
615
00:40:19,835 --> 00:40:22,554
or the front man in Metallica
616
00:40:22,715 --> 00:40:26,025
or, you know, macho bullshit
and all that stuff.
617
00:40:26,235 --> 00:40:28,988
All right, now you guys are drunk,
and I'm drunk.
618
00:40:29,155 --> 00:40:31,271
Now this is the fun part, man.
619
00:40:31,515 --> 00:40:33,790
I want to help him.
I want to be there for him.
620
00:40:33,955 --> 00:40:36,071
And I want to do the best I can
621
00:40:36,235 --> 00:40:39,227
to make him the best person
that he can be.
622
00:40:39,395 --> 00:40:41,989
So I don't know how the fuck
it's gonna play out.
623
00:41:05,596 --> 00:41:10,067
HAMMETT: It's really healthy for me
to be here without any pressure
624
00:41:10,236 --> 00:41:12,545
or anything related to the band
625
00:41:12,716 --> 00:41:16,868
or anyone who would remind me
of the band.
626
00:41:17,676 --> 00:41:21,908
And to recognize what's real.
627
00:41:22,996 --> 00:41:27,387
Our sessions with Phil really stirred up
a lot of things in James
628
00:41:27,556 --> 00:41:31,708
that he thought that he needed
to address.
629
00:41:31,916 --> 00:41:33,907
Mentally, it's really taken--
630
00:41:34,076 --> 00:41:38,389
Taken its toll on myself, you know,
and I'm very worried about him.
631
00:41:38,557 --> 00:41:43,711
And, you know, whenever
you check yourself into rehab,
632
00:41:43,917 --> 00:41:47,830
they don't-- They don't focus on, you
know, the fact that you're an alcoholic.
633
00:41:47,997 --> 00:41:51,069
They go much deeper, you know?
I mean, they go way deep.
634
00:41:51,237 --> 00:41:53,273
They crack you open
and then spill you out
635
00:41:53,437 --> 00:41:57,066
and examine all the things
that are on the table.
636
00:41:57,517 --> 00:41:59,747
I've spoken to him a few times,
637
00:41:59,917 --> 00:42:04,149
and, you know,
I know he's having a rough trip.
638
00:42:06,517 --> 00:42:12,433
No matter how bad it gets, eventually
things seem to sort themselves out,
639
00:42:12,597 --> 00:42:14,747
sooner or later.
640
00:42:16,157 --> 00:42:19,911
Whether it's good or bad,
they sort themselves out.
641
00:42:22,157 --> 00:42:23,954
MUSTAINE: I watched the people
around the world say
642
00:42:24,117 --> 00:42:26,472
what a great guitar player Kirk is
643
00:42:27,277 --> 00:42:31,987
and what a piece of shit I am.
And that I got kicked out of Metallica.
644
00:42:32,157 --> 00:42:36,356
And I wasn't good enough for them.
And that I was a loser.
645
00:42:36,558 --> 00:42:40,915
And I've had to deal with that
for almost 20 years.
646
00:42:42,638 --> 00:42:45,311
It's a dreadful experience.
647
00:42:46,558 --> 00:42:48,355
It's been hard, Lars.
648
00:42:48,678 --> 00:42:52,990
It's been hard to watch everything that
you guys do and you touch turn to gold
649
00:42:53,158 --> 00:42:56,230
and everything I do fucking backfire.
650
00:42:56,918 --> 00:42:59,193
And I'm sure there's
a lot of people that
651
00:42:59,358 --> 00:43:03,192
they would consider my backfire
complete success.
652
00:43:03,358 --> 00:43:07,271
You know? And am I happy
being number two? No.
653
00:43:08,758 --> 00:43:11,192
You know? You're just now
encountering something
654
00:43:11,358 --> 00:43:14,509
I've been going
through 13, 14 years.
655
00:43:14,678 --> 00:43:18,432
I've never had a chance
to be able to tell you without
656
00:43:18,598 --> 00:43:20,270
talking to Lars, the guy in Metallica.
657
00:43:20,438 --> 00:43:24,511
Never talked to my little Danish
friend again. You know?
658
00:43:24,678 --> 00:43:27,431
I remember the day you and I talked
about digging a hole in fucking dirt
659
00:43:27,598 --> 00:43:31,035
and smoking hash
through the ground.
660
00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:34,671
That to me is the stuff that's, like--
661
00:43:36,879 --> 00:43:42,033
You know? And we've never had
very many moments like that.
662
00:43:42,159 --> 00:43:45,356
Do I feel some guilt? Yes, I do.
663
00:43:45,519 --> 00:43:48,636
But at the same time,
it's difficult for me to comprehend
664
00:43:48,799 --> 00:43:52,587
that the only thing that you feel
665
00:43:52,759 --> 00:43:56,513
when you look back
on the last 20 years
666
00:43:56,679 --> 00:44:01,036
is rooted in the Metallica thing.
667
00:44:02,879 --> 00:44:04,358
Okay.
668
00:44:05,799 --> 00:44:08,518
Have you ever thought what--?
What I've been through?
669
00:44:08,679 --> 00:44:12,877
I think I've had an awareness
of the pain I caused you.
670
00:44:13,039 --> 00:44:15,030
MUSTAINE:
That's not what I said.
671
00:44:15,199 --> 00:44:16,632
Okay.
672
00:44:16,799 --> 00:44:18,027
Do you have any idea--?
673
00:44:18,199 --> 00:44:22,078
- Of what I put you through.
- No, no, no, what I went through.
674
00:44:22,639 --> 00:44:26,189
I mean, people hate me
because of you.
675
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,110
You know, I walk down the street,
and I hear some piece of shit
676
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,477
say "Metallica" at me,
and they do that to taunt me.
677
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,714
I mean, when I would hear Metallica
on the radio,
678
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,951
I would be like,
"God, I have to turn this off,"
679
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:43,159
because I just keep thinking,
"I fucked up!"
680
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,117
Right.
681
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,349
I've been waiting for this day
for a long time.
682
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:54,399
You know? And by no means
is it done because
683
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,551
somebody else very important
is not here.
684
00:44:56,720 --> 00:44:58,438
TOWLE:
Right.
685
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,075
MUSTAINE:
Do I wish it was 1982 all over again,
686
00:45:03,240 --> 00:45:04,639
and you guys woke me up and say:
687
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:09,112
"Hey, Dave, you know what?
You need to go to AA"? Yeah.
688
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,675
I'd give anything for that chance.
689
00:45:22,121 --> 00:45:24,954
Is there any last words you wanna
say to everybody out there?
690
00:45:25,121 --> 00:45:27,271
Metal up your ass!
691
00:45:27,481 --> 00:45:31,235
Okay, thank you. This is Donna Davis,
and this is Metallica.
692
00:45:38,481 --> 00:45:40,551
REPORTER:
This is, like, a pretty bitchin' club
693
00:45:40,721 --> 00:45:42,074
to play the first fucking gig.
694
00:45:42,241 --> 00:45:43,879
DONKIN: Yeah.
- How do you guys feel?
695
00:45:44,081 --> 00:45:46,470
SAGRAFENA: Stoked.
- Freaking out.
696
00:45:46,641 --> 00:45:49,758
REPORTER: Freaking out?
- Totally. Totally.
697
00:45:49,921 --> 00:45:53,516
It's un-fucking-believable is what
it comes down to. Can I say that?
698
00:45:53,681 --> 00:45:56,753
- You can say whatever you want.
- It's fucking unbelievable.
699
00:45:59,641 --> 00:46:02,235
WOMAN:
Echobrain. Yeah.
700
00:46:02,441 --> 00:46:05,638
I don't know, I just-- All of a sudden
this became such a big production.
701
00:46:05,841 --> 00:46:08,639
I don't understand.
It's like all of a sudden, like--
702
00:46:08,841 --> 00:46:12,151
I get one phone call, it's like everybody
and their fucking brother are in town.
703
00:46:12,321 --> 00:46:16,713
I thought it'd be Jason, like,
playing with his new band
704
00:46:16,882 --> 00:46:20,716
in front of, you know, like, 20 drunks
down at some bar or something.
705
00:46:20,882 --> 00:46:26,036
And now, I guess, to my own
ignorance or something, l--
706
00:46:26,242 --> 00:46:28,392
That's what-- I guess that's
what I wanted it to be.
707
00:46:28,562 --> 00:46:35,240
So now I'm realizing that supposedly
it's a little more of a big deal than that.
708
00:46:35,842 --> 00:46:37,400
[ECHOBRAIN PLAYING]
709
00:47:10,442 --> 00:47:12,911
- Hey, what's happening, man?
- What's going on?
710
00:47:13,083 --> 00:47:15,916
HAMMETT: Sounded good. Very good.
- Thanks. Thanks, man, thanks.
711
00:47:16,083 --> 00:47:18,074
- Awesome. Awesome.
- Oh, thanks. Right on.
712
00:47:18,363 --> 00:47:21,196
- I'm Lars. How you doing?
DONKIN: Nice to meet you.
713
00:47:21,363 --> 00:47:22,716
Where's Jason?
714
00:47:22,883 --> 00:47:24,202
- Jas?
- I don't know.
715
00:47:24,363 --> 00:47:26,718
I think he went back to--
I think he already fucking bailed.
716
00:47:26,883 --> 00:47:28,953
- He went back to--
- Really?
717
00:47:29,163 --> 00:47:32,872
Nice. Go back to say hey,
and he's, like, fucking gone.
718
00:47:33,043 --> 00:47:35,079
Elvis has left the building.
719
00:47:36,363 --> 00:47:39,878
There's Zach. Hey, Zach.
720
00:47:40,043 --> 00:47:42,557
See, he's even blowing me off.
721
00:47:43,883 --> 00:47:45,953
Jason blows me off.
Zach blows me off.
722
00:47:46,123 --> 00:47:48,193
ULRICH: How quick we become
yesterday's news.
723
00:47:48,363 --> 00:47:49,796
ROCK:
No-- No kidding.
724
00:47:50,763 --> 00:47:52,355
See, there's a guy
in an Echobrain T-shirt.
725
00:47:52,563 --> 00:47:55,953
ROCK: Yeah, that's Steve over there.
He works at the studio with us.
726
00:47:57,043 --> 00:47:58,271
Well, he is.
727
00:47:58,443 --> 00:48:00,001
ULRICH: Really?
- Yeah.
728
00:48:00,163 --> 00:48:01,516
I remember that guy.
729
00:48:01,683 --> 00:48:03,162
I remember him.
He worked at the studio.
730
00:48:03,323 --> 00:48:04,881
- Which guy?
- Over there.
731
00:48:05,043 --> 00:48:07,114
- The guy in the red shorts?
- No, the guy in the black
732
00:48:07,284 --> 00:48:10,560
that's walking across right now.
Kessel.
733
00:48:11,364 --> 00:48:13,355
Todd. He works at the studio too,
doesn't he?
734
00:48:13,564 --> 00:48:16,158
ULRICH: Who?
- Todd over there.
735
00:48:16,324 --> 00:48:18,315
ULRICH:
I'm sure they're all here, Bob.
736
00:48:18,484 --> 00:48:20,076
I mean, the only two people
in the Bay Area
737
00:48:20,244 --> 00:48:22,360
not working for him is me and you.
738
00:48:23,164 --> 00:48:25,314
Hetfield's gonna freak.
739
00:48:25,484 --> 00:48:28,157
I'm in fucking hell.
740
00:48:28,324 --> 00:48:30,042
This whole gig has brought
all of this on.
741
00:48:30,204 --> 00:48:31,557
Yes, it has.
It's made me feel like--
742
00:48:31,764 --> 00:48:35,962
- You really wanna come clean.
- It made me feel like such a loser.
743
00:48:36,804 --> 00:48:40,638
I mean, I can't hold my band together,
you know.
744
00:48:40,804 --> 00:48:43,637
I start records,
I don't finish them.
745
00:48:43,804 --> 00:48:46,193
I fucking--
746
00:48:46,484 --> 00:48:47,883
[GROANS]
747
00:48:52,164 --> 00:48:56,077
Jason is the future.
Metallica's the past.
748
00:48:57,084 --> 00:49:00,076
I've never had a break like this
in 20 years.
749
00:49:00,244 --> 00:49:03,874
Do you know what I mean? And just--
What's been kind of getting me
750
00:49:04,045 --> 00:49:05,364
is just not knowing.
751
00:49:05,525 --> 00:49:11,634
You know what I mean? Not knowing
and not hearing, it just eats away at you.
752
00:49:11,805 --> 00:49:15,639
- Kirk talked to him.
HAMMETT: I talked to James today.
753
00:49:16,165 --> 00:49:18,076
TOWLE:
What did he say?
754
00:49:18,245 --> 00:49:21,396
He basically said that,
you know, he just--
755
00:49:21,565 --> 00:49:23,556
His family's the priority right now,
756
00:49:23,765 --> 00:49:27,644
and he needs time to work
on his family
757
00:49:27,805 --> 00:49:31,923
before he can reach out
to his other family, being us.
758
00:49:32,245 --> 00:49:35,635
And that he loves us,
and he just needs for us
759
00:49:35,805 --> 00:49:39,320
to understand that he needs time.
760
00:49:39,485 --> 00:49:43,398
And he also went on
about how difficult it was
761
00:49:43,565 --> 00:49:47,399
talking to you about it,
because he felt pressured.
762
00:49:47,565 --> 00:49:50,557
And, you know, he spoke
about how you always need
763
00:49:50,765 --> 00:49:55,555
to be in control of the situation or in
control of the schedule or whatever.
764
00:49:55,765 --> 00:49:58,485
And he said that this is a time
765
00:49:58,646 --> 00:50:01,160
he needs complete control
of the situation.
766
00:50:01,326 --> 00:50:04,955
And he said, you know, all the
Marc Reiters and the Bob Rocks,
767
00:50:05,166 --> 00:50:09,637
all that stuff, you know, just has--
"I can't think of that right now."
768
00:50:09,806 --> 00:50:13,640
So, you know, I got the feeling that
he kind of lumps in your relationship
769
00:50:13,806 --> 00:50:15,558
with the business side of things,
770
00:50:15,766 --> 00:50:19,076
which was actually
really surprising to me.
771
00:50:22,486 --> 00:50:25,478
But I think that's--
You know, that explains--
772
00:50:25,646 --> 00:50:30,162
I think that explains a lot
on why he hasn't spoken to you.
773
00:50:32,646 --> 00:50:39,085
We're just in limbo, and the longer
James chooses to stay away
774
00:50:39,246 --> 00:50:42,955
from dealing with us,
the further we drift apart.
775
00:50:43,166 --> 00:50:50,163
And I just feel so disrespected.
776
00:50:50,326 --> 00:50:53,842
And that's the key thing.
777
00:50:57,007 --> 00:50:58,565
REPORTER: Was the future
of the group ever in doubt?
778
00:50:58,767 --> 00:51:00,997
Even when James went
into rehab, do you think?
779
00:51:01,167 --> 00:51:04,125
Lars and I, we were wondering
780
00:51:04,287 --> 00:51:10,556
when James was going to finally feel
like he was in a situation
781
00:51:10,767 --> 00:51:12,564
where he can come back
to the band.
782
00:51:12,767 --> 00:51:17,397
And after a certain amount of months,
you know, Lars and I started to think:
783
00:51:17,567 --> 00:51:20,001
"Well, is he ever gonna come back
to the band?"
784
00:51:20,167 --> 00:51:22,840
And that was a really big question
on our plates.
785
00:51:23,007 --> 00:51:25,396
Whether or not, you know,
he wanted to come back.
786
00:51:33,767 --> 00:51:38,238
ULRICH: James wrote something in the
new issue of our magazine, So What!
787
00:51:38,407 --> 00:51:41,843
He wrote a kind of
a little handwritten note.
788
00:51:42,007 --> 00:51:44,760
That note was probably
the most heartfelt thing
789
00:51:44,927 --> 00:51:49,763
that I'd ever seen come
from his mind.
790
00:51:51,448 --> 00:51:56,602
Tomorrow is shaping up,
or is gearing itself up to be,
791
00:51:56,768 --> 00:52:03,799
yes, the first sit-down
with one James Hetfield post-rehab.
792
00:52:17,848 --> 00:52:19,679
Why are we filming this?
793
00:52:20,808 --> 00:52:22,526
I don't know.
794
00:52:35,608 --> 00:52:36,927
We're in very different places.
795
00:52:37,088 --> 00:52:41,559
Or at least I am in a very different
place than I was from the Presidio.
796
00:52:43,288 --> 00:52:46,725
That's a huge understatement.
797
00:52:48,529 --> 00:52:50,520
So we just have to find that if--
798
00:52:50,689 --> 00:52:56,605
You know, if the movie will be
as intense, you know.
799
00:52:56,809 --> 00:52:59,448
To me there was a lot of intrusion,
800
00:52:59,609 --> 00:53:03,602
and I kind of went with it and felt--
801
00:53:03,809 --> 00:53:07,119
I felt uncomfortable.
I felt uncomfortable with it.
802
00:53:07,289 --> 00:53:09,200
You know, a boom
following me around,
803
00:53:09,409 --> 00:53:12,128
and it just felt like I was
in the spotlight all the time.
804
00:53:12,289 --> 00:53:15,008
And I didn't--
I guess I don't really like that feeling.
805
00:53:15,209 --> 00:53:18,838
While we were in the Presidio
filming you guys playing,
806
00:53:19,009 --> 00:53:20,522
- did you feel it then too?
HETFIELD: Yeah.
807
00:53:20,689 --> 00:53:22,998
It was-- It was pretty much
all the time.
808
00:53:23,209 --> 00:53:25,040
SINOFS Y: Do you think
you're in a better place now?
809
00:53:25,209 --> 00:53:26,244
We gotta find some...
810
00:53:26,409 --> 00:53:27,683
HETFIELD:
I'm definitely in a better place.
811
00:53:27,849 --> 00:53:29,123
Some place that
makes you feel comfortable.
812
00:53:29,289 --> 00:53:31,757
The last thing we wanna do
is have it impede on your music,
813
00:53:31,929 --> 00:53:33,999
because that's more important
than anything.
814
00:53:34,169 --> 00:53:36,205
You know, one answer
may be there--
815
00:53:36,369 --> 00:53:37,927
Maybe there shouldn't be a film.
816
00:53:38,089 --> 00:53:41,924
I mean, that's the range of possibilities
that we should really think about,
817
00:53:42,090 --> 00:53:45,002
because, I mean,
why do you guys want a film?
818
00:53:45,170 --> 00:53:47,889
Even you said you hope
that the film is made. I mean--
819
00:53:48,050 --> 00:53:50,689
That's a big question,
because, for me, it was really just--
820
00:53:50,890 --> 00:53:52,926
It came along with being in Metallica.
821
00:53:53,090 --> 00:53:55,558
"Hey, we're gonna do this."
"Oh, okay."
822
00:53:55,890 --> 00:53:59,644
That's part of this, all of this...
823
00:53:59,810 --> 00:54:03,280
The bigness of Metallica,
and I'm kind of tired of it.
824
00:54:03,810 --> 00:54:07,803
You might look at it as a friend.
To me, it's been a beast.
825
00:54:07,970 --> 00:54:12,361
And it's sucked a lot of me into it.
826
00:54:12,650 --> 00:54:14,880
You were maybe the keeper
of the beast at one point.
827
00:54:15,050 --> 00:54:19,965
You know, because you were the
champion of that fifth-- That entity.
828
00:54:20,210 --> 00:54:22,121
And, of course,
you gotta find the right balance
829
00:54:22,290 --> 00:54:23,962
between what
everybody's personal needs are,
830
00:54:24,130 --> 00:54:28,123
but if Metallica collectively decides
to do this,
831
00:54:28,290 --> 00:54:31,202
then I think Metallica
can make it happen.
832
00:54:31,370 --> 00:54:33,440
I don't know. That scares me again.
833
00:54:33,610 --> 00:54:36,603
Metallica is three individuals.
834
00:54:36,771 --> 00:54:40,047
And three individuals
have to decide if it's good to do.
835
00:54:40,211 --> 00:54:45,888
But I still think that the priority
is the collective
836
00:54:46,051 --> 00:54:49,282
until all the people involved
in the collective
837
00:54:49,451 --> 00:54:53,490
say that the priority
is the individual.
838
00:54:53,651 --> 00:54:56,529
And so far, you're the only one
that said the priority is the individual.
839
00:54:56,691 --> 00:54:59,569
I haven't said that.
He hasn't said that.
840
00:54:59,771 --> 00:55:01,045
I haven't heard him say that.
841
00:55:01,211 --> 00:55:06,365
So I feel that it's still--
There's still an unbalance there.
842
00:55:13,971 --> 00:55:16,804
HAMMETT: We met from, like, maybe,
I don't know, six or eight weeks
843
00:55:16,971 --> 00:55:20,407
before we actually picked up
the project again.
844
00:55:22,211 --> 00:55:25,044
That was when we came in,
and it was the first time
845
00:55:25,211 --> 00:55:28,248
we actually used this studio, HQ.
846
00:55:29,211 --> 00:55:33,000
Anyway, here we are. HQ.
847
00:55:35,492 --> 00:55:38,290
Right on. Well, we're here.
848
00:55:39,492 --> 00:55:41,483
And the camera's here.
849
00:55:41,652 --> 00:55:44,883
And my friend the boom is here.
850
00:55:45,052 --> 00:55:48,169
ROCK: Hovering.
- Yeah. Cool.
851
00:55:48,372 --> 00:55:50,328
Do you want me to play the music?
852
00:55:50,492 --> 00:55:53,802
HETFIELD:
Yeah, let's go. I'm--
853
00:55:53,972 --> 00:55:56,645
ROCK:
I'll put the big speakers on.
854
00:56:00,172 --> 00:56:05,087
HETFIELD: I was afraid to pick up a
guitar and fearful of what would happen.
855
00:56:05,252 --> 00:56:07,846
Would I not like it? Would I love it?
856
00:56:07,972 --> 00:56:10,406
Would I not be able to write
anything cool?
857
00:56:10,572 --> 00:56:13,962
Would I write just recovery stuff?
858
00:56:14,572 --> 00:56:16,449
James.
859
00:56:16,772 --> 00:56:19,923
It was probably the best sound
I've ever heard in my life,
860
00:56:20,092 --> 00:56:22,970
just the fact that you
were playing guitar in here.
861
00:56:24,172 --> 00:56:26,767
MAN: Hey, Zach.
- Right on, brother.
862
00:56:26,933 --> 00:56:28,810
ULRICH:
Play a riff.
863
00:57:05,253 --> 00:57:07,608
ROCK: What?
- Nothing.
864
00:57:08,173 --> 00:57:10,846
See? It feels pretty good, doesn't it?
865
00:57:11,013 --> 00:57:13,368
HETFIELD: Yeah.
- It feels like the next day.
866
00:57:15,013 --> 00:57:17,527
A year later, the next day.
867
00:57:24,374 --> 00:57:26,251
It will be interesting
working on this schedule,
868
00:57:26,414 --> 00:57:29,087
because we really haven't.
It's gonna be great.
869
00:57:29,254 --> 00:57:32,564
HETFIELD: And kind of the overview is,
you know, the less time we have here,
870
00:57:32,774 --> 00:57:35,572
the more productive we'll be,
in a way, you know?
871
00:57:35,774 --> 00:57:39,926
It's like we're more focused
on getting the stuff done.
872
00:57:40,094 --> 00:57:45,373
That all sounds really good.
Okay. Now, let's revisit it in a week.
873
00:57:45,654 --> 00:57:50,045
So I think that, don't talk it, walk it.
874
00:57:53,134 --> 00:57:55,887
At some point, we are gonna
have to work a little harder.
875
00:57:56,094 --> 00:57:58,130
ULRICH: Yes.
- You know, when that feels right.
876
00:57:58,294 --> 00:58:00,444
HETFIELD: What do you mean?
What does that mean?
877
00:58:00,614 --> 00:58:02,650
- What does that mean?
HETFIELD: Yeah.
878
00:58:02,814 --> 00:58:04,805
When you say harder,
does that mean more hours?
879
00:58:05,254 --> 00:58:10,886
You know, if we can go deep
real quick,
880
00:58:11,094 --> 00:58:12,413
be intense...
881
00:58:12,574 --> 00:58:14,246
I spoke up because,
"What does that mean,
882
00:58:14,414 --> 00:58:16,292
we have to, you know,
do eight hours now?"
883
00:58:16,495 --> 00:58:21,250
- And I got fearful right then.
ROCK: That's okay.
884
00:58:21,495 --> 00:58:23,486
I mean, it's like... Yeah.
885
00:58:23,655 --> 00:58:26,044
HETFIELD: To do eight hours?
ROCK: No.
886
00:58:47,175 --> 00:58:48,813
ULRICH:
Any lyric ideas?
887
00:58:48,975 --> 00:58:50,806
HAMMETT [SINGS]:
I'm searching for--
888
00:58:50,975 --> 00:58:52,727
ULRICH:
Searching for doughnuts.
889
00:58:52,895 --> 00:58:54,886
HAMMETT [SINGS]:
Searching for doughnuts
890
00:58:55,055 --> 00:58:57,091
[SINGS]
Searching for doughnuts
891
00:58:58,095 --> 00:58:59,574
What was the whole thing
from yesterday?
892
00:58:59,775 --> 00:59:01,572
- The Buddhist--
HAMMETT: Guarantee-- What?
893
00:59:01,735 --> 00:59:03,930
No, the Buddhist thing that you had.
894
00:59:04,095 --> 00:59:08,247
Birth is pain, life is pain,
death is pain.
895
00:59:08,415 --> 00:59:11,487
The cycle of suffering.
It's called samsara.
896
00:59:11,656 --> 00:59:13,965
ROCK:
Where are you with this, James?
897
00:59:14,976 --> 00:59:16,967
Somewhere else.
898
00:59:17,816 --> 00:59:20,410
Where's today's sweat going?
899
00:59:20,576 --> 00:59:24,410
"I've worn out being afraid.
My endless parade
900
00:59:24,576 --> 00:59:27,374
of fear that I've constantly made."
901
00:59:27,656 --> 00:59:30,648
"My lifestyle determines
my deathstyle.
902
00:59:30,816 --> 00:59:34,934
A rising tide that pushes
to the other side."
903
00:59:35,136 --> 00:59:36,649
[MUSIC OVER SPEAKERS]
904
00:59:40,896 --> 00:59:43,808
[SINGS] I've worn out being afraid
Endless parade
905
00:59:43,976 --> 00:59:46,729
Of fear that I've constantly made
906
00:59:46,896 --> 00:59:50,445
Frantic tick tick tick tock
I gladly trade
907
00:59:50,736 --> 00:59:54,490
Oh, I need know the answer
Where I'll be laid
908
00:59:55,936 --> 00:59:58,530
I can't find it
909
00:59:59,056 --> 01:00:00,887
- It just-- It doesn't work.
ROCK: The great--
910
01:00:01,056 --> 01:00:02,887
You did one great thing.
You went:
911
01:00:03,056 --> 01:00:04,887
[HUMMING]
912
01:00:05,056 --> 01:00:08,288
You did this one syncopated thing.
913
01:00:11,057 --> 01:00:12,775
Do the whole verse like that.
914
01:00:12,937 --> 01:00:15,405
HETFIELD [SINGS]:
I've worn out always being afraid
915
01:00:15,577 --> 01:00:18,455
An endless stream of fear
That I've made
916
01:00:18,617 --> 01:00:22,895
Frantic tick tick tock
I'll gladly trade
917
01:00:23,057 --> 01:00:24,695
It's weird. It's weird. And it works.
918
01:00:24,897 --> 01:00:27,775
ULRICH: No, but the second time
you felt really comfortable with it.
919
01:00:27,937 --> 01:00:29,370
HETFIELD:
Right.
920
01:00:29,537 --> 01:00:31,732
TOWLE:
Oh, by the way, it's quarter to 4.
921
01:00:32,697 --> 01:00:34,813
HETFIELD:
I gotta get rolling, guys. Sorry.
922
01:00:53,137 --> 01:00:56,288
HETFIELD: I feel like the bad guy
saying, "I gotta go because it's 4:00."
923
01:00:56,497 --> 01:01:01,571
If we all know, and we all do know,
that 4:00 is kind of the stop time,
924
01:01:01,737 --> 01:01:04,332
then, I don't know, then I won't feel
like the heel here, saying:
925
01:01:04,458 --> 01:01:06,972
"I gotta go eat dinner
with my kids," you know.
926
01:01:07,138 --> 01:01:09,208
Because I have a feeling
I'm gonna walk out of here,
927
01:01:09,378 --> 01:01:11,369
and you're gonna go in there
and listen to this stuff,
928
01:01:11,538 --> 01:01:13,893
- and it's like, that's not right.
ULRICH: That's not.
929
01:01:14,058 --> 01:01:17,130
I mean, if I wanna listen to it,
I'll go and listen to it.
930
01:01:17,298 --> 01:01:19,493
But we should at least listen to it--
931
01:01:19,658 --> 01:01:21,888
But I know you'll sit there
and start talking with Bob.
932
01:01:22,058 --> 01:01:24,492
Maybe Bob doesn't wanna sit
in there, and when I'm gone,
933
01:01:24,658 --> 01:01:26,489
things get talked about
and decisions are made.
934
01:01:26,658 --> 01:01:29,968
And I feel I walk into something
that's already kind of decided.
935
01:01:30,138 --> 01:01:32,288
And it's a total uphill battle
for me a lot of times.
936
01:01:32,498 --> 01:01:34,216
I don't like that feeling.
937
01:01:34,378 --> 01:01:36,255
HAMMETT: Well, that's, like,
just like the last 15 years,
938
01:01:36,418 --> 01:01:37,646
HETFIELD: Yeah.
- for me.
939
01:01:37,818 --> 01:01:40,207
Well, let's talk about this
tomorrow, then, all right?
940
01:01:40,378 --> 01:01:41,697
Or do you wanna take time out--?
941
01:01:41,858 --> 01:01:43,291
HETFIELD:
No, I don't have time right now,
942
01:01:43,498 --> 01:01:45,693
because it's past 4.
943
01:01:46,978 --> 01:01:51,130
It's hard to introduce structure
into this, and I'm trying.
944
01:01:51,298 --> 01:01:52,777
TOWLE:
So, what do you think, Lars?
945
01:01:53,578 --> 01:01:56,411
Can we hear the song
from yesterday?
946
01:01:56,578 --> 01:01:58,137
That we all heard together?
947
01:01:58,299 --> 01:02:00,654
HETFIELD:
How is that different?
948
01:02:00,819 --> 01:02:02,411
Because we all heard it
together already.
949
01:02:02,579 --> 01:02:04,137
TOWLE:
He wants to be part of everything.
950
01:02:04,299 --> 01:02:05,288
HETFIELD:
Was I in there?
951
01:02:05,499 --> 01:02:09,128
Yes, you were.
We all heard it together yesterday.
952
01:02:09,299 --> 01:02:10,698
ROCK: You came in.
HETFIELD: All right.
953
01:02:10,899 --> 01:02:12,890
As long as you don't talk about it.
954
01:02:13,899 --> 01:02:15,127
TOWLE:
Is that a way around it, or--?
955
01:02:15,299 --> 01:02:16,573
HETFIELD:
That is definitely a way around it.
956
01:02:16,739 --> 01:02:20,618
TOWLE: How about if
we just save up the tension?
957
01:02:20,779 --> 01:02:25,728
Seriously. I mean, that's okay,
because tension produces results.
958
01:02:45,819 --> 01:02:47,775
[CLASSICAL MUSIC
PLAYING OVER STEREO]
959
01:02:57,860 --> 01:03:00,249
HETFIELD: I'm excited to see
what you learned here.
960
01:03:02,700 --> 01:03:06,739
TEACHER:
Up and back. Up and freeze.
961
01:03:06,900 --> 01:03:08,458
What is this called?
962
01:03:08,620 --> 01:03:10,576
CHILDREN:
Arabesque.
963
01:03:13,420 --> 01:03:15,490
Super proud of you, sweetie.
964
01:03:15,700 --> 01:03:16,894
I'm so glad I got to see it.
965
01:03:17,100 --> 01:03:18,692
I'm working on--
Really hard, on being
966
01:03:18,860 --> 01:03:22,409
the best dad and father
and husband I can be.
967
01:03:23,500 --> 01:03:24,899
And the best me.
968
01:03:25,100 --> 01:03:27,409
TEACHER:
You worked hard.
969
01:03:27,580 --> 01:03:29,730
HETFIELD: I don't wanna lose
any of the stuff I have.
970
01:03:29,900 --> 01:03:32,016
I know it could all go away
at one time,
971
01:03:32,180 --> 01:03:34,410
and that's a tough part of life.
972
01:03:34,580 --> 01:03:38,175
And then-- And it's just--
It's a total rebirth for me,
973
01:03:38,340 --> 01:03:41,173
looking at life in a whole new way.
974
01:03:41,900 --> 01:03:46,178
You know, all the other drinking and
all the other junk that I was stuck in,
975
01:03:46,340 --> 01:03:48,490
it was so predictable, so boring.
976
01:03:48,700 --> 01:03:52,580
I'm out there looking for excitement
in all this stuff.
977
01:03:52,741 --> 01:03:54,777
The results are the same, man.
978
01:03:54,941 --> 01:03:57,296
I wake up the next day somewhere
in some bed,
979
01:03:57,461 --> 01:03:59,179
I don't know who this person
is next to me,
980
01:03:59,341 --> 01:04:03,493
and I'm drunk, completely hung-over
and have a show to do.
981
01:04:03,701 --> 01:04:06,613
And the result is the same.
982
01:04:06,781 --> 01:04:10,774
You know?
When life now is pretty exciting.
983
01:04:10,941 --> 01:04:12,613
You don't know
what's gonna happen
984
01:04:12,781 --> 01:04:16,296
when you're kind of clear
and here and in the now.
985
01:04:16,501 --> 01:04:18,776
In the moment.
986
01:04:23,461 --> 01:04:25,019
[MUSIC PLAYING
OVER SPEAKERS]
987
01:04:25,941 --> 01:04:28,933
My lifestyle determines
My deathstyle
988
01:04:29,101 --> 01:04:31,934
A rising tide
That pushes to the other side
989
01:04:32,101 --> 01:04:35,218
My lifestyle determines
My deathstyle
990
01:04:35,381 --> 01:04:38,578
A rising tide
That pushes to the other side
991
01:04:38,741 --> 01:04:42,097
I think those two feel the best to me.
992
01:04:42,301 --> 01:04:44,611
It's a tough one to decide.
They all kind of got
993
01:04:44,782 --> 01:04:46,010
some charm, don't you think?
994
01:04:46,182 --> 01:04:48,013
ULRICH: Yeah, I'd be interested
to hear the first one.
995
01:04:48,182 --> 01:04:49,854
From the first take.
996
01:04:50,022 --> 01:04:51,501
Well, let's play it.
997
01:04:51,662 --> 01:04:52,890
- Is it okay?
ULRICH: Are we allowed?
998
01:04:53,062 --> 01:04:54,461
- Yeah, we are.
- Do we have--?
999
01:04:54,622 --> 01:04:57,932
- We never really settled that, did we?
TOWLE: We didn't settle it.
1000
01:04:58,102 --> 01:05:00,900
ULRICH: Yes. We're allowed.
Well, I'd like to hear it.
1001
01:05:01,102 --> 01:05:04,697
Feel free to leave the room, whoever
doesn't want to be part of that.
1002
01:05:09,702 --> 01:05:12,296
HETFIELD:
I felt like it was an agreement.
1003
01:05:12,462 --> 01:05:14,293
We're gonna work from 12 to 4,
1004
01:05:14,702 --> 01:05:18,058
and then we would not work.
1005
01:05:18,222 --> 01:05:21,532
ROCK: Well, if Lars and I
listen to something
1006
01:05:21,702 --> 01:05:23,215
or go through the Presidio stuff,
1007
01:05:23,382 --> 01:05:26,454
it's not because we wanna do
something behind your back.
1008
01:05:27,062 --> 01:05:29,053
It's for you.
1009
01:05:29,222 --> 01:05:31,816
And basically what I heard
is, "No, I can't do that."
1010
01:05:31,942 --> 01:05:33,341
What the fuck is that?
1011
01:05:33,502 --> 01:05:35,333
HETFIELD:
I don't know, my mind gets lopsided.
1012
01:05:35,502 --> 01:05:38,699
The more it goes in a different
direction, the harder it is.
1013
01:05:38,902 --> 01:05:41,622
The harder it is to get that back.
1014
01:05:41,783 --> 01:05:44,217
TOWLE:
What is it you have to get back?
1015
01:05:44,383 --> 01:05:51,653
Some control. Some sense
of involvement in the band.
1016
01:05:53,063 --> 01:05:56,100
When I was running this morning,
I was thinking about seeing you today,
1017
01:05:56,263 --> 01:05:59,016
and the word "fuck"
just comes up so much.
1018
01:05:59,183 --> 01:06:01,651
Seriously, it's really true.
1019
01:06:01,863 --> 01:06:05,173
- Is that in anger?
- No, just, "Fuck!"
1020
01:06:05,343 --> 01:06:07,254
"Fuck."
1021
01:06:09,183 --> 01:06:12,812
I just think you're
so fucking self-absorbed.
1022
01:06:12,983 --> 01:06:17,659
And what makes it worse is
that you always talk about...
1023
01:06:18,903 --> 01:06:21,053
You always talk about me.
You use the word "control"
1024
01:06:21,263 --> 01:06:26,018
and "manipulation" a lot.
I think you control on purpose,
1025
01:06:26,183 --> 01:06:28,014
and I think you control inadvertently.
1026
01:06:28,183 --> 01:06:31,255
I think you control by the rules
you always set.
1027
01:06:31,423 --> 01:06:34,415
I think you control by how you
always judge people.
1028
01:06:34,583 --> 01:06:37,496
I think you control by your absence.
1029
01:06:37,664 --> 01:06:41,100
I think you control all of this
even when you're not here.
1030
01:06:45,184 --> 01:06:48,256
I don't understand who you are.
I don't understand the program.
1031
01:06:48,424 --> 01:06:50,494
I don't understand all this stuff,
okay?
1032
01:06:50,664 --> 01:06:55,340
I realize now that I barely
knew you before.
1033
01:06:55,504 --> 01:06:57,859
And all these rules
and all this shit, man,
1034
01:06:58,024 --> 01:07:00,663
this is a fucking rock 'n' roll band.
1035
01:07:00,864 --> 01:07:03,139
I don't want fucking rules.
1036
01:07:03,944 --> 01:07:07,380
I understand that you need
to leave at 4.
1037
01:07:07,584 --> 01:07:09,495
I respect it.
1038
01:07:09,664 --> 01:07:14,658
But don't tell me I can't sit and listen to
something with Bob at 4:15 if I want to.
1039
01:07:14,824 --> 01:07:16,974
What the fuck is that?
1040
01:07:17,144 --> 01:07:21,501
You know, I don't wanna end up
like Jason, okay?
1041
01:07:21,664 --> 01:07:25,816
I don't want to be pushed away.
I don't want it to happen twice.
1042
01:07:26,984 --> 01:07:31,217
Let's do it, and let's fucking do it
full-on or let's not do it at all.
1043
01:07:31,825 --> 01:07:33,895
Fuck. See?
1044
01:07:34,065 --> 01:07:35,896
Fuck.
1045
01:07:36,305 --> 01:07:37,897
Fuck!
1046
01:07:38,225 --> 01:07:40,295
Fuck!
1047
01:07:41,065 --> 01:07:42,896
MAN 1:
Yeah!
1048
01:07:44,785 --> 01:07:47,379
MAN 2: Yeah!
MAN 3: Metallica. Yeah!
1049
01:07:47,505 --> 01:07:49,302
MAN 4:
Rock 'n' roll.
1050
01:08:07,505 --> 01:08:08,779
[GONGS]
1051
01:08:14,385 --> 01:08:15,500
[LAUGHING]
1052
01:08:37,586 --> 01:08:39,781
MAN:
Let's hear it for Elena!
1053
01:08:54,586 --> 01:08:58,499
HETFIELD: We're not anywhere near
getting any issues resolved.
1054
01:08:58,666 --> 01:09:01,897
TOWLE: Well, let's get them.
That's what we're here to do.
1055
01:09:02,106 --> 01:09:04,301
I don't know. I guess the playing part,
being in the room,
1056
01:09:04,466 --> 01:09:07,139
and then mainly being in the room
with Lars, playing music together.
1057
01:09:07,306 --> 01:09:09,342
I guess I had higher expectations,
and I don't know,
1058
01:09:09,506 --> 01:09:11,815
maybe I'm disappointed in myself.
1059
01:09:11,986 --> 01:09:14,056
Maybe... I don't know.
1060
01:09:14,466 --> 01:09:16,616
You wanna talk about that?
I mean, what does that mean?
1061
01:09:16,826 --> 01:09:20,136
I'm not enjoying being in the room
with you playing.
1062
01:09:22,987 --> 01:09:25,137
[SINGS]
Searching
1063
01:09:25,307 --> 01:09:26,820
Seek and destroy
1064
01:09:30,147 --> 01:09:31,819
Searching
1065
01:09:32,147 --> 01:09:33,865
Seek and destroy
1066
01:09:36,827 --> 01:09:38,897
Searching, yeah
1067
01:09:39,067 --> 01:09:41,661
Seek and destroy
1068
01:09:42,827 --> 01:09:46,422
ULRICH:
If you are not having any fun,
1069
01:09:46,827 --> 01:09:50,456
let me let it be known to you that
I'm not having a lot of fun either.
1070
01:09:50,627 --> 01:09:54,017
But I've-- I am not interested
in playing music with you
1071
01:09:54,227 --> 01:09:55,785
if you're not happy in there.
1072
01:09:56,147 --> 01:09:58,945
I just don't want to be a--
Become a fucking parody.
1073
01:09:59,307 --> 01:10:03,016
Okay? So if you're not happy
playing music with me:
1074
01:10:18,228 --> 01:10:22,460
Is there enough that connects us
to hold on
1075
01:10:22,628 --> 01:10:27,224
for a way through this?
1076
01:10:29,548 --> 01:10:31,539
I don't know.
1077
01:10:32,228 --> 01:10:34,867
There are moments
where I really doubt it.
1078
01:10:36,828 --> 01:10:39,023
Really doubt it.
1079
01:10:39,228 --> 01:10:40,866
HETFIELD:
I'm glad you said that.
1080
01:10:41,028 --> 01:10:45,863
Because I really, deep down,
feel sometimes that it's just...
1081
01:10:46,388 --> 01:10:49,983
There's just some empty, just...
1082
01:10:50,148 --> 01:10:51,627
Just an ugly feeling inside.
1083
01:10:51,828 --> 01:10:55,423
Just... I don't know.
1084
01:10:56,828 --> 01:10:59,900
How much work
do we gotta put into this?
1085
01:11:11,628 --> 01:11:13,904
- Then you're doing the:
HAMMETT: Yeah.
1086
01:11:15,909 --> 01:11:19,219
ROCK: Let's do our little
roundtable thing right now, quickly.
1087
01:11:19,389 --> 01:11:22,142
Everybody's gotta participate.
1088
01:11:22,309 --> 01:11:24,664
Lars, come on.
1089
01:11:25,709 --> 01:11:27,779
[MUSIC OVER SPEAKERS]
1090
01:11:49,829 --> 01:11:53,424
Hey, Castor, why don't you look at all
the boys-- The men, I should say.
1091
01:11:53,589 --> 01:11:55,341
And say bye to everybody.
1092
01:11:55,509 --> 01:11:56,498
[IN UNISON]
Bye, Castor.
1093
01:11:56,669 --> 01:11:57,658
HAMMETT:
Thank you for coming.
1094
01:11:57,829 --> 01:12:01,026
- Is Daddy going bye?
- No, your dada's staying here, okay?
1095
01:12:01,189 --> 01:12:02,668
- Bye, guys.
HETFIELD: See you.
1096
01:12:02,829 --> 01:12:06,583
ROCK: So, what's the deal? How does
everybody feel about what they heard?
1097
01:12:06,749 --> 01:12:09,583
The chorus lyrics will definitely work
in that feel.
1098
01:12:09,750 --> 01:12:13,663
- Yeah.
- That kind of intro bit that's on there.
1099
01:12:14,030 --> 01:12:16,419
- What about you? What do you think?
ULRICH: It's good.
1100
01:12:16,630 --> 01:12:20,703
You think it's good? Was there
anything in particular that you...?
1101
01:12:20,870 --> 01:12:23,862
No, I wasn't paying
attention that detailed.
1102
01:12:24,030 --> 01:12:25,907
That's just-- It's a lot of good stuff.
1103
01:12:45,510 --> 01:12:51,267
I can take you back, when me and him
were alone in my room, in 1981,
1104
01:12:51,430 --> 01:12:54,820
listening to the new wave of
British heavy-metal singles.
1105
01:12:54,990 --> 01:12:56,821
As soon as there was somebody else
in the room,
1106
01:12:56,990 --> 01:13:01,700
it just became this, like-- It just had
a very different energy to it.
1107
01:13:04,991 --> 01:13:08,028
- Is there any of that that's usable?
- Yeah.
1108
01:13:08,991 --> 01:13:10,788
That's a fuck-- That's a fucking bitch.
1109
01:13:10,951 --> 01:13:12,828
ROCK:
Let's do another version of it, okay?
1110
01:13:15,151 --> 01:13:17,381
ULRICH: The first time I got
a real awareness of it
1111
01:13:17,551 --> 01:13:21,146
was when Mustaine came
into the picture.
1112
01:13:22,151 --> 01:13:23,823
When James was with Mustaine,
1113
01:13:23,991 --> 01:13:27,825
he became like he never
really cared about me.
1114
01:13:31,031 --> 01:13:34,307
One time during the recording
of the Ride the Lightning record,
1115
01:13:34,471 --> 01:13:37,543
where me and him went out and--
So 42 beers later,
1116
01:13:37,711 --> 01:13:40,703
it was like, "Oh, dude, I love you."
1117
01:13:40,871 --> 01:13:46,150
But it could never have materialized
until it got to that 42-beer point
1118
01:13:46,311 --> 01:13:48,541
and we were alone.
1119
01:13:53,951 --> 01:13:55,748
ROCK:
That was good.
1120
01:13:56,631 --> 01:13:58,269
Are you sure I don't have
to play it again?
1121
01:13:58,431 --> 01:14:01,947
ROCK: Yeah, I'm sure.
It's good practice, though.
1122
01:14:02,112 --> 01:14:04,421
ULRICH: For what?
ROCK: The road.
1123
01:14:04,592 --> 01:14:07,868
ULRICH: When?
- A couple years.
1124
01:14:14,712 --> 01:14:18,546
HETFIELD:
From day one, it's been competitive.
1125
01:14:18,712 --> 01:14:22,751
And in a way, that's what has made
Metallica what it is.
1126
01:14:22,952 --> 01:14:26,342
That's what's driven us further.
1127
01:14:26,552 --> 01:14:28,429
ROCK:
What feels good to you?
1128
01:14:28,592 --> 01:14:30,548
I don't know.
I'm gonna try a bunch more.
1129
01:14:30,752 --> 01:14:32,504
Can you try maybe like a:
1130
01:14:32,672 --> 01:14:34,185
[IMITATING GUITAR]
1131
01:14:34,552 --> 01:14:36,622
Almost like a strum.
1132
01:14:40,432 --> 01:14:44,550
HETFIELD: My parents split
when I was 12 or 13.
1133
01:14:44,752 --> 01:14:48,540
And then my mom passed on
when I was 16.
1134
01:14:48,712 --> 01:14:54,025
The only thing I felt that I really had,
at that point, was music.
1135
01:14:56,353 --> 01:14:58,787
My wanting to keep everything
under control,
1136
01:14:58,953 --> 01:15:03,151
and, you know, it's out of a fear
of my abandonment issues.
1137
01:15:06,153 --> 01:15:08,872
I'm afraid to get close to people
because I don't know how to do it.
1138
01:15:09,033 --> 01:15:12,867
I don't know
how you're supposed to do it.
1139
01:15:15,313 --> 01:15:17,349
ROCK: Cool.
- That last one was pretty good.
1140
01:15:17,553 --> 01:15:19,464
ROCK:
Yes.
1141
01:15:19,953 --> 01:15:22,547
HETFIELD:
That's the first amp I ever owned.
1142
01:15:22,953 --> 01:15:24,989
That right there.
1143
01:15:40,353 --> 01:15:42,628
I think we have it.
1144
01:15:42,793 --> 01:15:44,351
HAMMETT:
Okay.
1145
01:16:00,794 --> 01:16:02,989
ROCK:
Okay. Now we gotta talk about it.
1146
01:16:04,794 --> 01:16:10,073
You started talking about the idea of
the guitar solo, as we have known it,
1147
01:16:10,234 --> 01:16:14,307
maybe being something that was
a little outdated
1148
01:16:14,474 --> 01:16:18,387
and maybe reintroducing
some riff-o-rama things.
1149
01:16:18,554 --> 01:16:21,068
But can I say something
that I think is bullshit?
1150
01:16:21,234 --> 01:16:24,624
This whole fucking solo out,
you know, dates the whole thing.
1151
01:16:24,794 --> 01:16:26,785
That's so bullshit. You know?
1152
01:16:26,954 --> 01:16:29,912
If you put a guitar-- If you don't play
a guitar solo in one of these songs,
1153
01:16:30,074 --> 01:16:31,746
that dates it to this period.
1154
01:16:31,914 --> 01:16:36,112
And that cements it to a trend
that's happening in music right now.
1155
01:16:36,434 --> 01:16:38,504
I think that's stupid,
and I think it's totally trendy.
1156
01:16:38,674 --> 01:16:40,665
ULRICH: I know that's not what
I said. It's always been about,
1157
01:16:40,874 --> 01:16:44,230
like, where could it go
that's kind of new and interesting,
1158
01:16:44,434 --> 01:16:46,824
instead of just repeating
something from the past.
1159
01:16:47,235 --> 01:16:50,671
I'm not interested in playing
traditional guitar solos anymore.
1160
01:16:50,875 --> 01:16:53,264
- You know, that's just-- For me, it's--
- And you told me that.
1161
01:16:53,475 --> 01:16:55,033
It's just boring, you know.
1162
01:16:55,195 --> 01:16:58,505
To me, if you can add a colour
to the song
1163
01:16:58,675 --> 01:17:00,870
that satisfies you and works
for the song,
1164
01:17:01,035 --> 01:17:02,673
then that's what we should do with it.
1165
01:17:02,875 --> 01:17:04,945
But I don't wanna get in the position
where it's like,
1166
01:17:05,115 --> 01:17:08,266
we put something down on the tape
to satisfy your ego,
1167
01:17:08,475 --> 01:17:10,864
my ego, Lars' ego or James' ego.
1168
01:17:11,075 --> 01:17:13,225
I think it should serve
what's going down.
1169
01:17:13,435 --> 01:17:17,030
Like, in other words, there shouldn't be,
like, a rule of no solos.
1170
01:17:17,195 --> 01:17:19,789
There shouldn't be a rule of solos.
It should be--
1171
01:17:19,955 --> 01:17:22,628
And I agree.
I mean, it really is, to me,
1172
01:17:22,795 --> 01:17:24,945
all about serving the song,
and, you know,
1173
01:17:25,115 --> 01:17:27,470
I feel much better about that,
1174
01:17:27,635 --> 01:17:31,514
because, you know, I just don't wanna
follow certain trends
1175
01:17:31,675 --> 01:17:33,631
that I see other bands following.
1176
01:17:33,795 --> 01:17:36,104
We don't necessarily have
to stick to our traditional way,
1177
01:17:36,275 --> 01:17:38,664
but we also don't have
to follow that trend.
1178
01:17:48,276 --> 01:17:52,349
HAMMETT: I'm very comfortable
with my role in the band, you know?
1179
01:17:52,516 --> 01:17:56,395
I've actually always been very, very
comfortable with my role in the band.
1180
01:18:03,116 --> 01:18:04,629
I'm not a really egotistical person.
1181
01:18:04,796 --> 01:18:05,785
[CELL PHONE RINGING]
1182
01:18:05,956 --> 01:18:10,188
In fact, I've-- I spend a large
amount of my time trying to, like,
1183
01:18:10,356 --> 01:18:14,474
downplay my ego
and get it even smaller and smaller.
1184
01:18:14,636 --> 01:18:16,467
That's part of my beliefs.
1185
01:18:16,796 --> 01:18:23,474
I try to be an example
of being egoless to the other guys.
1186
01:18:34,076 --> 01:18:37,387
Hi! This is Kirk from Metallica.
1187
01:18:37,557 --> 01:18:40,788
And if you want money,
you'll listen to us.
1188
01:18:40,957 --> 01:18:43,596
And then some other guy's
gonna give you cash.
1189
01:18:45,597 --> 01:18:47,872
Twenty years' worth of integrity,
1190
01:18:48,077 --> 01:18:50,466
and, you know,
credibility and all that.
1191
01:18:50,637 --> 01:18:54,073
The next five minutes
is gonna change all that.
1192
01:18:58,117 --> 01:19:01,314
"Hey, man, keep it locked right here,
and--" What?
1193
01:19:01,477 --> 01:19:04,230
"We'll help you score $1,000."
1194
01:19:04,397 --> 01:19:09,551
This is James from Metallica.
Survey says, you need cash.
1195
01:19:10,317 --> 01:19:14,276
Your money-shot to snatch
a bunch of cash is coming soon.
1196
01:19:14,437 --> 01:19:18,316
In order to suck both
nationwide radio chains off,
1197
01:19:18,477 --> 01:19:23,232
we are now standing here
having to do this fucking stupid thing.
1198
01:19:23,397 --> 01:19:26,389
Up to 50 motherfucking grand,
goddamn it!
1199
01:19:26,597 --> 01:19:28,474
Win a bunch of money.
1200
01:19:28,637 --> 01:19:30,389
And walk away.
1201
01:19:30,597 --> 01:19:32,475
This is stupid!
1202
01:19:32,638 --> 01:19:35,152
Sharpen that booger-picking finger
1203
01:19:35,318 --> 01:19:38,151
and be the 50th--
1204
01:19:38,318 --> 01:19:42,994
Hey, it's Lars from Metallica. I'm
about to stick 50 grand up your ass.
1205
01:19:43,838 --> 01:19:46,432
One dollar at a time.
1206
01:19:49,038 --> 01:19:52,872
I was telling Lars last night
that was hard for me to see
1207
01:19:53,038 --> 01:19:55,711
- you guys squirm like you were.
- Yeah.
1208
01:19:55,878 --> 01:19:58,631
Because I wanted to say anything,
and it's not my place to say anything.
1209
01:19:59,158 --> 01:20:02,309
I can't imagine Bono or the Edge
going on the radio,
1210
01:20:02,478 --> 01:20:07,677
saying what you guys
are being asked to say.
1211
01:20:08,158 --> 01:20:11,036
- Dad, can I have one of those?
- Go for it.
1212
01:20:11,238 --> 01:20:14,708
BURNSTEIN [OVER PHONE]: Should
we catch up on all this radio stuff?
1213
01:20:14,878 --> 01:20:17,312
Okay. Now, they're
the biggest chain in America.
1214
01:20:17,478 --> 01:20:20,515
You know, it's like 75, 80 stations
or something.
1215
01:20:20,678 --> 01:20:26,469
And if you guys think it's crappy, as a
radio thing, those guys think it's good.
1216
01:20:26,638 --> 01:20:29,028
I mean, that's their idea.
We didn't come up with that.
1217
01:20:29,399 --> 01:20:30,718
So strategically--
1218
01:20:30,879 --> 01:20:33,996
Why are we doing it, then?
Just to make them happy?
1219
01:20:34,159 --> 01:20:36,036
BURNSTEIN: Yes.
That's exactly what they're doing.
1220
01:20:36,239 --> 01:20:40,391
And they won't say, "Fuck you,
you never do anything for us.
1221
01:20:40,999 --> 01:20:42,990
We're gonna fuck you
on the next record. "
1222
01:20:43,559 --> 01:20:45,151
People would do that?
1223
01:20:45,319 --> 01:20:48,629
"Because you didn't give us something,
we're gonna fuck you?"
1224
01:20:48,839 --> 01:20:51,990
BURNSTEIN:
Yes, James. They would.
1225
01:20:52,159 --> 01:20:54,593
I'm not saying that they
can always get away with it.
1226
01:20:54,759 --> 01:20:55,987
That's so funny.
1227
01:20:56,159 --> 01:20:58,798
- It wouldn't stop them from trying.
- I'm glad it's your world.
1228
01:20:59,079 --> 01:21:02,754
I understand the "wash your back,
you wash mine" thing.
1229
01:21:03,039 --> 01:21:06,190
"Wash my--" "I'll wash your back
so you don't stab mine,"
1230
01:21:06,359 --> 01:21:07,792
- Right.
- is more like it.
1231
01:21:07,959 --> 01:21:09,517
Okay. Why don't we get off
the phone, then.
1232
01:21:09,719 --> 01:21:11,152
REITER: Well, you know,
we should have this conversation
1233
01:21:11,319 --> 01:21:12,308
some more next week.
1234
01:21:12,719 --> 01:21:13,834
- Later.
BURNSTEIN: Okay.
1235
01:21:13,999 --> 01:21:15,227
REITER: See you.
BURNSTEIN: Bye-bye.
1236
01:21:15,399 --> 01:21:19,438
That's insanity. "We're gonna hurt you
because we didn't get something."
1237
01:21:19,599 --> 01:21:22,193
HAMMETT: I wash your back
so you don't stab mine.
1238
01:21:22,359 --> 01:21:24,999
TOWLE:
Well, that's a good line for a song.
1239
01:21:29,440 --> 01:21:31,351
HETFIELD:
I guess I just want something
1240
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:33,112
to rhyme with "mine" right now.
1241
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:36,590
ROCK:
Wash your back so you won't...
1242
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:38,990
Wash your back
so you won't stab mine.
1243
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:40,434
Step on a landmine.
1244
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:43,353
Keep you in my back pocket.
1245
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:46,273
ROCK:
Blind leading the blind.
1246
01:21:46,440 --> 01:21:49,591
I'll rip out your fucking spine.
1247
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:52,031
HETFIELD:
Okay.
1248
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:54,511
ULRICH:
All right.
1249
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:56,632
[MUSIC PLAYING
OVER SPEAKER]
1250
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:00,954
[SINGS] Wash your back
So you won't stab mine
1251
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:03,674
Get in bed with your own kind
1252
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:06,115
Wash your back
So you won't stab mine
1253
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:09,955
Get in bed with your own kind
1254
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:13,268
- That was really good.
HETFIELD: Are you pulling my mike?
1255
01:22:13,440 --> 01:22:15,032
- That was really good.
HAMMETT: It was.
1256
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:18,232
- Really good.
HETFIELD: So then, the part--
1257
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:20,119
SINGS:
Landmine
1258
01:22:20,721 --> 01:22:22,791
Landmine
1259
01:22:22,961 --> 01:22:25,395
No landmines
1260
01:22:25,601 --> 01:22:28,274
No landmines
Rock lobster
1261
01:22:28,441 --> 01:22:33,435
Wash your back
So you won't stab mine
1262
01:22:33,601 --> 01:22:38,880
Get in bed with your own kind
1263
01:22:44,041 --> 01:22:47,238
There's a witch at the foot of my bed.
1264
01:22:49,281 --> 01:22:51,556
ROCK: Did you--?
Did you hear what Lars said?
1265
01:22:51,721 --> 01:22:55,714
He says, "Yeah, Kirk stopped reading,
and I stopped moping."
1266
01:22:56,561 --> 01:22:58,392
- That's what you said.
- That's not what I said.
1267
01:22:58,561 --> 01:23:00,279
ROCK: What'd you say?
- I said, I stopped sulking.
1268
01:23:00,441 --> 01:23:02,318
ROCK:
Oh, sulking.
1269
01:23:23,682 --> 01:23:24,717
ULRICH:
Whoa! Whoa! Whoa!
1270
01:23:24,882 --> 01:23:25,951
[SPLASHES]
1271
01:23:26,122 --> 01:23:27,441
Shit!
1272
01:23:30,602 --> 01:23:33,036
In the 11 months since he's
parted company with Metallica,
1273
01:23:33,242 --> 01:23:37,030
ex-bassist Jason Newsted has been
apparently more musically active
1274
01:23:37,242 --> 01:23:38,721
than his former band mates.
1275
01:23:38,882 --> 01:23:41,874
While Metallica drummer Lars Ulrich
was pursuing Napster,
1276
01:23:42,042 --> 01:23:44,715
and singer James Hetfield
battled alcoholism,
1277
01:23:44,882 --> 01:23:48,591
Newsted hooked up in the studio
with legendary metal band Voivod.
1278
01:23:48,842 --> 01:23:52,118
Our own lann Robinson got all the
answers on Newsted's new ventures
1279
01:23:52,322 --> 01:23:55,394
and the current state
of his relationship with Metallica.
1280
01:23:55,562 --> 01:23:57,792
ULRICH:
A good friend hinted
1281
01:23:57,962 --> 01:24:02,558
that Jason would really like
to join the band again.
1282
01:24:05,242 --> 01:24:10,317
Man, I popped his little bubble
for a second and-- I don't know, man.
1283
01:24:10,523 --> 01:24:11,717
ROCK:
I'll be quite honest.
1284
01:24:11,923 --> 01:24:16,075
I think the heart and soul of Metallica,
from this point on,
1285
01:24:16,243 --> 01:24:20,521
and has been for a while, since
Cliff died, is the three of you guys.
1286
01:24:20,683 --> 01:24:25,837
I think you will never, ever, ever find
a permanent bass player.
1287
01:24:26,003 --> 01:24:27,721
My opinion.
1288
01:24:32,163 --> 01:24:34,631
WOMAN: There was also tragedy
in rock this week.
1289
01:24:34,803 --> 01:24:37,601
Metallica's bassist Cliff Burton
was killed in a bus accident
1290
01:24:37,763 --> 01:24:41,153
while the band was on tour
in Sweden. He was 24.
1291
01:24:41,323 --> 01:24:43,996
MAN: Metallica bassist Cliff Burton
was buried on Tuesday
1292
01:24:44,163 --> 01:24:46,677
in the San Francisco area.
Remaining members of the band...
1293
01:24:46,843 --> 01:24:49,152
Jason Newsted.
He replaced Cliff Burton,
1294
01:24:49,323 --> 01:24:52,076
who was killed in an auto accident
in September.
1295
01:24:52,243 --> 01:24:53,471
Jason told...
1296
01:24:53,643 --> 01:24:56,999
It pisses me off that Cliff left us
1297
01:24:57,163 --> 01:25:01,679
because we'd never have
that initial four guys
1298
01:25:01,843 --> 01:25:03,913
just going on and on.
1299
01:25:04,123 --> 01:25:08,515
You know, when I talk about it,
it's like that happened for a reason.
1300
01:25:08,684 --> 01:25:11,118
And we're-- We're dealing with that.
1301
01:25:11,284 --> 01:25:14,401
TOWLE: I gotta capitalize
on what's being said right here.
1302
01:25:14,564 --> 01:25:18,682
The Cliff message that I get
from him to you guys is,
1303
01:25:18,844 --> 01:25:21,438
that treasure the three of you.
1304
01:25:21,604 --> 01:25:25,313
Treasure every moment
that the three of you have.
1305
01:25:25,524 --> 01:25:27,435
And the four of you have.
You know, treasure--
1306
01:25:27,604 --> 01:25:31,677
Treasure it because you never know.
1307
01:25:31,844 --> 01:25:35,120
And one of the sad things
that happens when somebody dies
1308
01:25:35,284 --> 01:25:38,356
is that people have never
taken the time along the way
1309
01:25:38,524 --> 01:25:42,676
to really embrace each other
every day. You know?
1310
01:25:42,844 --> 01:25:46,154
It's a sin if you--
You know, if you let that go.
1311
01:25:47,084 --> 01:25:48,358
[SIGHS]
1312
01:25:57,364 --> 01:26:01,438
HETFIELD:
Phil has been like an angel for me.
1313
01:26:01,765 --> 01:26:05,360
He's been sent to help me.
1314
01:26:05,525 --> 01:26:07,755
And, you know, I've got
my own thoughts about all that,
1315
01:26:07,925 --> 01:26:10,519
you know, a father figure,
the dad that never was
1316
01:26:10,685 --> 01:26:13,040
and all of that, that it makes
me comfort--
1317
01:26:13,205 --> 01:26:14,877
It comforts me.
1318
01:26:15,085 --> 01:26:20,113
But also, we don't want to have
our hand held through life.
1319
01:26:20,765 --> 01:26:26,681
We'd like to be able to stand proud
ourselves and move on.
1320
01:26:27,765 --> 01:26:30,074
There'll be a time for that.
1321
01:26:30,285 --> 01:26:33,755
And we just have to discuss
when that is.
1322
01:26:38,445 --> 01:26:42,836
TOWLE: You know, there is purpose
behind the way I do it.
1323
01:26:43,885 --> 01:26:46,194
I think it's very effective.
1324
01:26:46,365 --> 01:26:52,679
I have to decide whether
I'm going to push it or not.
1325
01:26:59,126 --> 01:27:02,277
It sometimes is a distraction.
1326
01:27:10,286 --> 01:27:12,481
So, what part of our career
are you gonna manage today?
1327
01:27:12,646 --> 01:27:16,525
I thought I'd do the whole thing,
since you guys can't do anything.
1328
01:27:16,686 --> 01:27:18,039
If you guys could run something,
1329
01:27:18,206 --> 01:27:23,803
then it would be easy to step back.
Because you can't, you know...
1330
01:27:23,966 --> 01:27:26,958
Is today the first day you're
gonna play drums?
1331
01:27:27,126 --> 01:27:28,639
- I don't wanna get into that.
- Okay.
1332
01:27:28,806 --> 01:27:30,478
No. I don't think
I'm gonna do the drums.
1333
01:27:30,646 --> 01:27:32,125
- I think it's time--
- Maybe I should.
1334
01:27:32,286 --> 01:27:34,800
- Yeah. I think it's time.
- Although, actually, I'm kind of...
1335
01:27:34,966 --> 01:27:38,641
Well, it's about the only thing
you haven't done.
1336
01:27:38,806 --> 01:27:41,559
- I haven't sung.
- Right.
1337
01:27:41,726 --> 01:27:45,036
We got to a point
where we sat down and told Phil
1338
01:27:45,206 --> 01:27:51,042
that we wanted to scale Phil back
to every other week.
1339
01:27:51,206 --> 01:27:53,960
And we were getting ready
to implement that
1340
01:27:54,127 --> 01:27:56,721
four weeks from when
the decision was made.
1341
01:27:56,887 --> 01:27:59,879
And two weeks
after the decision was made,
1342
01:28:00,087 --> 01:28:04,763
we had to sit Phil down and say
that we were not ready to do that.
1343
01:28:04,927 --> 01:28:07,646
Because we got really...
1344
01:28:08,967 --> 01:28:12,403
I don't know. Scared, I guess.
1345
01:28:12,567 --> 01:28:14,558
There were some things
that were going on at the time
1346
01:28:14,727 --> 01:28:16,479
that, really, Phil helped with a lot.
1347
01:28:16,647 --> 01:28:19,559
ANNOUNCER: Live from the
news leader in Northern California.
1348
01:28:19,727 --> 01:28:21,957
NewsCenter 4. Night Beat.
1349
01:28:22,127 --> 01:28:26,996
The Metallica v. Napster battlefield
moved to San Mateo today.
1350
01:28:27,167 --> 01:28:30,921
Metallica drummer Lars Ulrich
delivered a list of screen names
1351
01:28:31,087 --> 01:28:34,045
of people who have downloaded
the band's music online.
1352
01:28:34,327 --> 01:28:36,397
REPORTER 1:
Metallica is suing Napster,
1353
01:28:36,567 --> 01:28:38,205
a website that provides software
1354
01:28:38,367 --> 01:28:41,518
which allows people to download
music on the Internet without paying.
1355
01:28:41,687 --> 01:28:44,121
Metallica drummer Lars Ulrich testified
before a Senate committee
1356
01:28:44,287 --> 01:28:48,600
earlier this month that Napster has
"hijacked our music without asking."
1357
01:28:48,768 --> 01:28:51,805
REPORTER 2: The band said
that over 350,000 people
1358
01:28:51,968 --> 01:28:53,287
are downloading its music for free.
1359
01:28:53,448 --> 01:28:55,598
REPORTER 3: A group of former
Metallica fans staged a protest
1360
01:28:55,768 --> 01:28:56,996
at the courthouse.
1361
01:28:57,208 --> 01:28:59,119
I don't want anything to do
with Metallica anymore.
1362
01:28:59,288 --> 01:29:02,200
I'm gonna be trashing their CDs.
I took all my CDs,
1363
01:29:02,368 --> 01:29:04,245
and I'm gonna be destroying them.
1364
01:29:04,688 --> 01:29:06,485
Are you proud
of what you achieved with Napster?
1365
01:29:06,648 --> 01:29:09,367
REPORTER 4: Are you proud in
hindsight of what you pulled off?
1366
01:29:09,528 --> 01:29:11,678
Being the most hated man
in rock 'n' roll?
1367
01:29:11,848 --> 01:29:13,839
Yeah, that was-- That was my goal.
1368
01:29:14,008 --> 01:29:15,805
I got an idea.
I'm kind of bored this summer.
1369
01:29:15,968 --> 01:29:17,367
Everything's going a little too well.
1370
01:29:17,528 --> 01:29:19,359
Let's see, I wanna turn myself
1371
01:29:19,528 --> 01:29:22,884
into the most hated fucking
asshole in rock 'n' roll, yeah.
1372
01:29:23,968 --> 01:29:27,438
Like, good afternoon, my name is, you
know, like, Lars Ulrich, from Metallica.
1373
01:29:27,608 --> 01:29:29,599
I worked for years to get
where I am today.
1374
01:29:29,768 --> 01:29:31,281
Me and my buddy
James Hetfield here
1375
01:29:31,448 --> 01:29:34,804
have shed blood, sweat and beer
to get where we are today.
1376
01:29:34,968 --> 01:29:36,686
Beer, good.
1377
01:29:36,848 --> 01:29:38,679
Who do you think you are?
I mean, just, you know,
1378
01:29:38,848 --> 01:29:41,521
because you, like, made us rich,
you think you can get free stuff?
1379
01:29:41,688 --> 01:29:43,281
Songs that we spent upwards
of, you know,
1380
01:29:43,449 --> 01:29:46,282
like 24 to 48 hours writing
and recording.
1381
01:29:46,449 --> 01:29:48,405
Our team of lawyers and researchers
have your names,
1382
01:29:48,569 --> 01:29:52,528
and you Napster users, we'll see you
in jail getting gang-raped.
1383
01:29:53,009 --> 01:29:57,400
CARTOON HETFIELD:
Money, good! Napster, bad!
1384
01:29:59,529 --> 01:30:01,042
ULRICH: Some minutes
I have all this strength,
1385
01:30:01,209 --> 01:30:04,804
and I can stand there and just go,
"Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you.
1386
01:30:04,969 --> 01:30:06,607
I'm bulletproof, it doesn't matter.
1387
01:30:06,809 --> 01:30:09,039
I got Hetfield and Hammett,
and we're a team, and fuck you."
1388
01:30:09,209 --> 01:30:10,801
You know what I mean?
Five minutes later,
1389
01:30:10,969 --> 01:30:13,608
it means nothing, and I just
become really vulnerable.
1390
01:30:18,249 --> 01:30:20,160
You know, we never sat there
and thought
1391
01:30:20,329 --> 01:30:23,002
about where Napster
was gonna end up.
1392
01:30:23,409 --> 01:30:25,923
We never sat there and talked about
what shots we were gonna take.
1393
01:30:26,089 --> 01:30:30,640
We just sat there and thought about,
this was something we had to do.
1394
01:30:30,969 --> 01:30:33,403
ROCK:
So wait a sec.
1395
01:30:34,409 --> 01:30:36,400
That was awesome!
1396
01:30:36,569 --> 01:30:39,880
It's like I had to stay
on the course that I was on
1397
01:30:40,050 --> 01:30:43,929
and stay to my convictions,
but it was eating away at me inside.
1398
01:30:44,810 --> 01:30:47,404
And then maybe it could go
lyrically to:
1399
01:30:47,570 --> 01:30:52,928
"What difference did l/we actually
make?" It's a great question. Great.
1400
01:30:53,090 --> 01:30:56,127
And if that could-- It's like if that
question could get thrown out there,
1401
01:30:56,330 --> 01:31:00,528
but remain unanswered,
I think that's really strong.
1402
01:31:00,690 --> 01:31:04,399
[SINGS]
All the shots I take
1403
01:31:04,570 --> 01:31:08,722
What difference did I make?
1404
01:31:08,930 --> 01:31:12,923
All the shots I take
1405
01:31:13,090 --> 01:31:17,402
I spit back at you
1406
01:31:25,010 --> 01:31:26,682
ROCK:
"All the shots I spit back at you."
1407
01:31:26,850 --> 01:31:28,249
That's awesome, dude.
Fucking...
1408
01:31:28,410 --> 01:31:30,287
ROCK: Fuck me.
- And the "what difference did I make"
1409
01:31:30,450 --> 01:31:33,921
- fit right in.
- Really awesome. Right on.
1410
01:31:54,171 --> 01:31:55,843
ULRICH: These two kicks,
are they the same as--?
1411
01:31:56,011 --> 01:31:57,410
GILLIES: It's different.
ULRICH: Okay.
1412
01:31:57,611 --> 01:32:01,968
Go to the master. What really gets
my dick hard is starting on:
1413
01:32:02,131 --> 01:32:03,564
- Boom, boom.
GILLIES: I can do that.
1414
01:32:03,891 --> 01:32:05,847
[IMITATING DRUMS]
1415
01:32:06,011 --> 01:32:08,286
You know, there.
Then these are awesome.
1416
01:32:08,491 --> 01:32:10,083
[MUSIC PLAYING]
1417
01:32:14,171 --> 01:32:15,524
CRAZY CABBIE:
Lars, what I wanna know is,
1418
01:32:15,691 --> 01:32:18,763
do the four of you just go in there
and just jam?
1419
01:32:18,931 --> 01:32:22,844
You're hearing excerpts
of three-hour jams.
1420
01:32:23,011 --> 01:32:25,923
You're hearing-- Look at it as a funnel.
1421
01:32:26,091 --> 01:32:29,562
You're hearing the very part
of the bottom of the funnel.
1422
01:32:29,732 --> 01:32:31,085
- Right.
ULRICH: You can almost equate
1423
01:32:31,252 --> 01:32:33,720
- what we're doing now to arranging.
- Yeah.
1424
01:32:33,892 --> 01:32:35,405
CRAZY CABBIE:
You're like Pollock, the painter.
1425
01:32:35,612 --> 01:32:40,402
He is. He's Pollock,
the funnel-arranger guy.
1426
01:32:40,612 --> 01:32:42,364
CRAZY CABBIE: It's gonna sound
fucking amazing at the stadium
1427
01:32:42,532 --> 01:32:44,921
with 100,000 people
fucking raising the evil horns
1428
01:32:45,092 --> 01:32:48,402
up to the sky and saying,
"Metallica, baby."
1429
01:32:48,612 --> 01:32:49,806
[LAUGHS]
1430
01:32:49,972 --> 01:32:53,248
Oh, can we fast-forward
to that right now?
1431
01:32:53,812 --> 01:32:56,485
[CHEERING]
1432
01:33:14,812 --> 01:33:16,006
BURNSTEIN:
I think what I'd like to do is,
1433
01:33:16,172 --> 01:33:19,369
I'd like to talk about
this touring thing that has come up.
1434
01:33:19,532 --> 01:33:22,968
We're very cognizant of the fact
1435
01:33:23,132 --> 01:33:25,169
that things have changed
for you guys.
1436
01:33:25,333 --> 01:33:28,291
And they've changed
for many, many reasons.
1437
01:33:28,453 --> 01:33:31,684
Why can't we figure out what works
best for everybody
1438
01:33:31,853 --> 01:33:37,849
in their personal lives,
plus what works best as a business?
1439
01:33:38,013 --> 01:33:40,447
What if you just do a stadium tour,
1440
01:33:40,613 --> 01:33:42,843
where you play Friday, Saturday
and Sunday,
1441
01:33:43,013 --> 01:33:46,130
and then you go home
the rest of the week?
1442
01:33:48,973 --> 01:33:50,691
I just wanna put out that,
1443
01:33:50,853 --> 01:33:54,607
you know, it might be a kind
of uncomfortable vibe here
1444
01:33:54,813 --> 01:33:58,442
because people might not know
how I'm feeling about touring,
1445
01:33:58,613 --> 01:34:02,891
and I don't really know either.
You know? Until I get there.
1446
01:34:03,053 --> 01:34:06,682
And, you know, I wanna tour.
1447
01:34:07,053 --> 01:34:08,805
I don't wanna fall off the wagon,
you know.
1448
01:34:09,013 --> 01:34:11,163
I don't wanna go out there--
I don't know what it's like.
1449
01:34:11,333 --> 01:34:16,009
Doing things for the first time again, as
I think I've said before, it's a little scary.
1450
01:34:16,453 --> 01:34:17,568
[CHEERING]
1451
01:34:19,774 --> 01:34:22,004
I don't know about you,
but it's, like, summertime.
1452
01:34:22,174 --> 01:34:26,372
And to me, it's fucking
beer-drinking weather, yeah?
1453
01:34:27,814 --> 01:34:30,692
Yeah. Well, I'm gonna take time
right now and fucking have myself one,
1454
01:34:30,854 --> 01:34:33,163
and I just wanna say cheers
to all you guys
1455
01:34:33,334 --> 01:34:37,805
and fucking thanks for coming down
and getting nutty with us. Cheers.
1456
01:34:43,214 --> 01:34:45,330
[HETFIELD SINGING SCALES]
1457
01:34:55,414 --> 01:34:57,609
I blew my voice out
on the "Black Album,"
1458
01:34:57,774 --> 01:35:00,971
doing "So What," the cover song.
1459
01:35:01,134 --> 01:35:04,206
And we had a bunch of Metallica
songs to do after that.
1460
01:35:04,374 --> 01:35:07,844
And I went to this coach. I didn't--
1461
01:35:08,014 --> 01:35:09,766
I didn't wanna go. I was scared.
1462
01:35:09,934 --> 01:35:13,085
I thought he was gonna make me
sing operatic.
1463
01:35:13,254 --> 01:35:16,088
But I went there, and we
just did warm-up stuff like this,
1464
01:35:16,255 --> 01:35:20,373
and this is the tape. And I've had
this same tape for-- Since then.
1465
01:35:28,775 --> 01:35:29,764
REPORTER:
Was there a turning point?
1466
01:35:29,935 --> 01:35:34,690
Yeah. I think when we had
accumulated what we thought to be,
1467
01:35:34,855 --> 01:35:38,609
you know, a great kind of...
1468
01:35:38,775 --> 01:35:41,084
I don't know,
cross section of material,
1469
01:35:41,255 --> 01:35:42,813
we took stock, so to speak.
1470
01:35:43,015 --> 01:35:45,529
The only songs that
are gonna make it to the album
1471
01:35:45,695 --> 01:35:48,289
are the songs that
all four of us vote on.
1472
01:35:48,415 --> 01:35:54,445
And out of 30-plus songs,
only four songs got all four votes.
1473
01:35:56,615 --> 01:35:59,846
[OVER SPEAKERS]
Sweet Amber
1474
01:36:00,015 --> 01:36:01,243
Sweet Amber
1475
01:36:12,456 --> 01:36:15,095
Sweet Amber
1476
01:36:16,816 --> 01:36:20,013
How sweet are you?
1477
01:36:21,376 --> 01:36:24,129
How sweet does it get?
1478
01:36:24,896 --> 01:36:26,887
How sweet are you?
1479
01:36:28,816 --> 01:36:31,205
How sweet does it get?
1480
01:36:32,016 --> 01:36:33,495
TOWLE: Yeah, right.
BURNSTEIN: Wow.
1481
01:36:33,656 --> 01:36:37,046
I mean, there's some explosive playing.
The shit just takes off.
1482
01:36:37,536 --> 01:36:41,131
It's like you guys have spent
all this time
1483
01:36:41,296 --> 01:36:44,129
to come back to find yourselves.
1484
01:36:44,296 --> 01:36:48,175
- That's what it sounds like to me.
ULRICH: All right, 17 to go.
1485
01:36:48,336 --> 01:36:51,009
ROCK: Yeah, how are you doing?
Do you wanna hear more?
1486
01:36:51,176 --> 01:36:53,053
- Wanna hear more?
BURNSTEIN: I'm just getting started.
1487
01:36:54,056 --> 01:36:56,206
[OVER SPEAKER]
Squeeze all within my hands
1488
01:36:58,616 --> 01:37:02,131
Choke within my hands
1489
01:37:02,296 --> 01:37:07,052
I'm madly in anger with you
I'm madly in anger with you
1490
01:37:07,217 --> 01:37:10,368
I'm madly in anger with you
1491
01:37:11,937 --> 01:37:13,893
Time, time, times like this
1492
01:37:14,057 --> 01:37:15,968
- Boy
- You got what you're coming to
1493
01:37:16,137 --> 01:37:18,810
- So
- Destruct the power within all
1494
01:37:18,977 --> 01:37:23,289
Across your spine
So that gets broken too
1495
01:37:23,457 --> 01:37:27,769
Temptation, fill no hole
1496
01:37:30,217 --> 01:37:32,048
No
1497
01:37:32,217 --> 01:37:33,570
No, no
1498
01:37:33,737 --> 01:37:36,729
Temptation
1499
01:37:36,897 --> 01:37:38,808
You know, the first four songs
you've played me,
1500
01:37:38,977 --> 01:37:40,808
all pretty much knocked me out.
1501
01:37:40,977 --> 01:37:46,734
Okay? But if you've got it going, you
want it to hammer all the way through.
1502
01:37:46,897 --> 01:37:50,731
You want people to be able
to really listen and say:
1503
01:37:50,897 --> 01:37:53,616
"Jesus Christ, there's
no letting up from these guys.
1504
01:37:53,817 --> 01:37:55,489
There's no fucking letup."
1505
01:37:55,657 --> 01:37:58,296
Fuck ballads. You know?
1506
01:37:58,457 --> 01:38:03,054
There definitely is some Presidio stuff
that I felt, maybe--
1507
01:38:03,218 --> 01:38:07,496
You gotta analyse it. Maybe you're
1508
01:38:07,658 --> 01:38:11,731
watering it down in some way.
That's all.
1509
01:38:13,378 --> 01:38:16,051
- It's your call.
HETFIELD: Yeah.
1510
01:38:16,578 --> 01:38:18,216
BURNSTEIN:
I know that...
1511
01:38:20,658 --> 01:38:23,252
HETFIELD: "Temptation,"
I remember writing that thing.
1512
01:38:23,658 --> 01:38:27,287
It came out.
It flowed, totally, instantly.
1513
01:38:27,458 --> 01:38:31,451
"Temptation" kind of sums up
all the lyrics
1514
01:38:31,618 --> 01:38:36,897
that are in this new kind of project.
1515
01:38:37,058 --> 01:38:40,255
So-- And that-- And it's cool
because that was done
1516
01:38:40,458 --> 01:38:43,973
long before recovery
and all that, so...
1517
01:38:44,138 --> 01:38:46,572
I mean, I can tell that you're singing
your heart out.
1518
01:38:46,738 --> 01:38:51,016
You're definitely wearing your heart
on your sleeve on that song.
1519
01:38:51,178 --> 01:38:53,646
ULRICH:
To me, it's more like a jam.
1520
01:38:53,858 --> 01:38:56,326
Is there a song in there?
1521
01:38:56,498 --> 01:38:58,854
Potentially.
1522
01:38:59,379 --> 01:39:02,496
You know, there's almost nothing
there that can't be turned
1523
01:39:02,659 --> 01:39:04,695
into something better than it is
or something
1524
01:39:04,859 --> 01:39:07,737
that could probably
get pretty fucking close
1525
01:39:07,899 --> 01:39:10,208
to being something
on a Metallica record.
1526
01:39:10,499 --> 01:39:14,731
You know, but then it just goes away
from what the purpose--
1527
01:39:14,899 --> 01:39:16,571
At least, what I see the purpose
being today,
1528
01:39:16,739 --> 01:39:18,172
which is show up with what you--
1529
01:39:18,339 --> 01:39:21,854
You know, what are your A-pluses?
You know?
1530
01:39:23,339 --> 01:39:25,728
Well, when I hear Lars talk
about "We can whip anything
1531
01:39:25,899 --> 01:39:28,697
into decent shape," I agree.
1532
01:39:28,859 --> 01:39:32,613
And we did that on
Load and ReLoad.
1533
01:39:32,819 --> 01:39:34,298
And this is us trying to choose
1534
01:39:34,459 --> 01:39:36,529
before we take it to those extremes,
you know?
1535
01:39:36,699 --> 01:39:40,055
ROCK: Exactly.
- That makes sense.
1536
01:39:40,259 --> 01:39:41,578
HETFIELD:
That was a pretty major thing
1537
01:39:41,739 --> 01:39:43,252
that I think Lars and I
clicked on together,
1538
01:39:43,459 --> 01:39:46,735
that, wow, I'd heard him,
and he heard me.
1539
01:39:46,899 --> 01:39:49,049
Oh, it's like, "Oh, okay."
1540
01:39:49,259 --> 01:39:51,568
It's like it takes the cutting edge
off of it
1541
01:39:51,739 --> 01:39:55,733
or the personal attack off of it,
you know?
1542
01:39:56,420 --> 01:39:58,411
Things are a lot less dramatic
than they used to be
1543
01:39:58,580 --> 01:40:02,459
within the chemistry
of the four of us.
1544
01:40:02,740 --> 01:40:08,133
Less head games, abuse of power
and soap-opera bullshit.
1545
01:40:08,580 --> 01:40:11,048
But can we just do one thing?
1546
01:40:11,220 --> 01:40:14,690
For lack of a better word,
when it comes in with the drums,
1547
01:40:14,860 --> 01:40:16,418
I just want you to scream,
"Fuck,"
1548
01:40:16,580 --> 01:40:18,889
as hard as you can fucking scream.
1549
01:40:19,140 --> 01:40:20,334
[MUSIC PLAYING]
1550
01:40:20,500 --> 01:40:24,891
[SCREAMS]
Fuck
1551
01:40:29,660 --> 01:40:31,855
ROCK:
Okay. It should be slower.
1552
01:40:32,020 --> 01:40:33,738
It should be more like:
1553
01:40:37,060 --> 01:40:39,335
I want four of them. Do it again.
1554
01:40:53,941 --> 01:40:55,932
WllG:
Lars is selling paintings
1555
01:40:56,101 --> 01:41:01,255
because he's ready to move on
to the next ten years
1556
01:41:01,421 --> 01:41:04,015
or next decade
or next phase of his life.
1557
01:41:04,181 --> 01:41:06,934
And a lot of what these paintings and
a lot of what this house represents
1558
01:41:07,141 --> 01:41:14,855
is the last ten years versus
a husband and father of two.
1559
01:41:14,981 --> 01:41:19,418
He's getting rid of some pretty
major and important pieces
1560
01:41:19,581 --> 01:41:22,254
in the majority of his collection.
1561
01:41:23,861 --> 01:41:26,694
He's wiping the slate clean.
1562
01:41:29,341 --> 01:41:31,696
ULRICH:
Midnight, New York City.
1563
01:41:31,861 --> 01:41:34,534
One last look at the paintings.
Oh, well.
1564
01:41:34,701 --> 01:41:37,818
- It's a celebration.
- This is a celebration.
1565
01:41:37,981 --> 01:41:40,575
- Of how far you've come.
- It's a celebration.
1566
01:41:40,701 --> 01:41:42,851
With Phil Towle.
This is a celebration.
1567
01:41:43,021 --> 01:41:45,252
Some paintings have visited us
for a while.
1568
01:41:45,422 --> 01:41:48,539
And now we wanna share them
with other people.
1569
01:41:48,702 --> 01:41:50,101
- Okay?
- Right, yeah. That's it.
1570
01:41:50,262 --> 01:41:52,856
- It's a choice.
- Okay, cool.
1571
01:41:56,462 --> 01:42:00,421
I never looked at it as an investment,
but I always looked it as--
1572
01:42:00,702 --> 01:42:02,818
Versus some of the other guys
that may be, like, taking
1573
01:42:02,982 --> 01:42:04,973
a big pile of money and parking
it in the bank,
1574
01:42:05,142 --> 01:42:07,815
I would always, like, take a big pile
of money and park it on my wall.
1575
01:42:09,222 --> 01:42:10,450
Wow.
1576
01:42:11,502 --> 01:42:16,132
I can just feel some of the adulation
that other people have thrown
1577
01:42:16,302 --> 01:42:18,418
at these paintings,
and that makes me proud.
1578
01:42:18,582 --> 01:42:20,413
I've never been this close to it.
1579
01:42:20,582 --> 01:42:25,258
These are great paintings, whether
they sell for a dollar or for $100 million.
1580
01:42:25,422 --> 01:42:28,061
The only thing that matters
is what pleasure
1581
01:42:28,262 --> 01:42:32,255
and what feeling you get out of that
moment you have with that painting.
1582
01:42:32,462 --> 01:42:34,578
And it's never been
about dollars and cents.
1583
01:42:34,742 --> 01:42:37,734
It's always been about something
greater than that.
1584
01:42:37,902 --> 01:42:41,657
But, fuck, they do look awesome.
I mean, fuck.
1585
01:42:46,263 --> 01:42:47,582
It's been a good time.
1586
01:42:47,743 --> 01:42:51,213
- And it will be a good time.
- To the future.
1587
01:42:51,823 --> 01:42:54,053
ULRICH: I feel better about this
than I thought I would, actually.
1588
01:42:54,263 --> 01:42:55,855
- It's weird, I don't know why.
- Yeah.
1589
01:42:56,023 --> 01:42:57,012
[GLASS SHATTERING]
1590
01:42:57,183 --> 01:42:58,252
Shit.
1591
01:43:29,663 --> 01:43:31,142
AUCTIONEER:
$300,000.
1592
01:43:31,303 --> 01:43:32,816
$300,000
on the telephone.
1593
01:43:33,023 --> 01:43:37,256
It's two of you in the room,
selling right, fair warning at $300,000.
1594
01:43:37,584 --> 01:43:39,222
Jean Paul, $300,000.
1595
01:43:39,384 --> 01:43:40,817
[SIGHS]
1596
01:43:40,984 --> 01:43:45,500
Twenty-one is the moderna
on the reverse,
1597
01:43:45,664 --> 01:43:49,259
the Jean-Michel Basquiat showing
on the screen there on my right.
1598
01:43:49,464 --> 01:43:51,341
- All right, here we go.
- Be strong, my friend.
1599
01:43:51,504 --> 01:43:53,256
AUCTIONEER:
$900,000. At $1.9 million.
1600
01:43:53,424 --> 01:43:55,415
1.9, 2 million.
1601
01:43:55,584 --> 01:43:58,815
AUCTIONEER: $1,100,000.
$300,000.
1602
01:43:58,984 --> 01:44:02,693
ULRICH: Can we get more cocktails?
AUCTIONEER: $220,000--
1603
01:44:02,984 --> 01:44:05,896
- 580.
ULRICH: 600. 4.5.
1604
01:44:06,064 --> 01:44:07,895
ULRICH: 720.
AUCTIONEER: $3 million.
1605
01:44:08,064 --> 01:44:11,693
- Come on, 4.
AUCTIONEER: For you, sir, $260,000.
1606
01:44:12,064 --> 01:44:13,782
$680,000.
1607
01:44:13,944 --> 01:44:17,698
And selling at $5 million.
Brett, yours at 5 million.
1608
01:44:17,864 --> 01:44:20,139
SKYLAR: All right.
ULRICH: Hi.
1609
01:44:23,384 --> 01:44:25,056
It went well.
1610
01:44:25,224 --> 01:44:29,775
I got myself drunk to numb the pain.
1611
01:44:29,985 --> 01:44:31,134
Um...
1612
01:44:31,745 --> 01:44:34,862
But it went well. I'm happy.
1613
01:44:47,745 --> 01:44:49,622
TOWLE: Like, let's talk about the zone
for a minute.
1614
01:44:49,785 --> 01:44:54,381
Because there is a way to help
a person-- Persons get in a zone.
1615
01:44:54,585 --> 01:44:57,975
To-- I mean, you could consider
seriously doing some meditative,
1616
01:44:58,185 --> 01:45:02,656
or apply the meditative principles
to music, all right?
1617
01:45:03,225 --> 01:45:04,738
I don't want this to sound
too way-out,
1618
01:45:04,905 --> 01:45:07,578
but if you do that,
the four of you are out there,
1619
01:45:07,745 --> 01:45:12,216
and you do it anyway, unconsciously,
you do a musical meditation
1620
01:45:12,385 --> 01:45:15,502
by starting to jam with each other.
1621
01:45:15,665 --> 01:45:17,815
ROCK: I just think,
no matter how you look at it,
1622
01:45:17,985 --> 01:45:21,057
I've been making records a very
long time, and it really comes down
1623
01:45:21,225 --> 01:45:23,056
to how much work you put in
and how much...
1624
01:45:23,225 --> 01:45:27,742
You know, it's just tough. Sometimes
it's just-- It's just tough work.
1625
01:45:27,906 --> 01:45:31,899
And I like to stretch the frontiers
of what people accept, okay?
1626
01:45:32,066 --> 01:45:34,216
And I understand about that.
And l--
1627
01:45:34,386 --> 01:45:37,503
I don't want, for my mind, to settle...
1628
01:45:52,546 --> 01:45:57,017
"The zone. Admission is believing."
1629
01:45:57,226 --> 01:46:01,014
I guess I'm not gonna
be playing today, then, huh?
1630
01:46:01,186 --> 01:46:03,461
Well, I'm gonna go out
and make phone calls.
1631
01:46:03,626 --> 01:46:05,344
So everybody's...
1632
01:46:08,906 --> 01:46:11,340
You know, we've had
a fabulous few weeks
1633
01:46:11,506 --> 01:46:14,896
with a lot of great productivity,
a lot of really good stuff going on.
1634
01:46:15,346 --> 01:46:18,338
The more we feel good
about ourselves and each other
1635
01:46:18,546 --> 01:46:20,777
and the higher we ascend,
the more challenging
1636
01:46:20,947 --> 01:46:23,256
it will be to our psyches.
1637
01:46:23,907 --> 01:46:26,216
You know, I understand it.
I embrace it and all that stuff,
1638
01:46:26,387 --> 01:46:29,060
but sometimes it just bugs me.
1639
01:46:29,227 --> 01:46:33,379
I think the-- That thing was
kind of bugging me yesterday.
1640
01:46:33,547 --> 01:46:35,742
All of them around the studio,
it was just kind of, like--
1641
01:46:36,387 --> 01:46:39,538
That way of thinking, it just
doesn't work for me all the time.
1642
01:46:39,707 --> 01:46:41,265
And I was a little pissed off at it,
1643
01:46:41,427 --> 01:46:44,225
because right now in my life
it's not really working for me.
1644
01:46:44,627 --> 01:46:46,345
TOWLE:
I'm glad to know that's how you feel.
1645
01:46:46,507 --> 01:46:47,940
I agree with that wholeheartedly.
1646
01:46:48,107 --> 01:46:51,782
And if you feel that way
and wish to share that more directly,
1647
01:46:51,947 --> 01:46:52,982
I'd appreciate that too.
1648
01:46:53,147 --> 01:46:54,819
ROCK:
Rather than tearing the signs down?
1649
01:46:54,987 --> 01:46:57,057
- Yeah.
- We pay him $40,000 a month
1650
01:46:57,227 --> 01:47:01,505
to be pretty much available
at our beck and call.
1651
01:47:01,827 --> 01:47:03,818
So when this record's done,
1652
01:47:03,987 --> 01:47:12,941
do we want to collectively end
the $40,000-a-month, full-on thing?
1653
01:47:13,147 --> 01:47:16,105
I'm afraid he's under the impression
that he's, like, in the band, you know?
1654
01:47:16,268 --> 01:47:17,701
HAMMETT:
Yeah.
1655
01:47:17,868 --> 01:47:21,577
HETFIELD: And I see him coming
on the road, maybe, for a week.
1656
01:47:21,748 --> 01:47:25,536
But after that I don't-- I don't see him
1657
01:47:27,588 --> 01:47:30,421
holding our hand
any further than that.
1658
01:47:32,348 --> 01:47:34,259
So is that something we wanna
present to him, then?
1659
01:47:34,428 --> 01:47:36,180
HAMMETT: Yeah. I think that--
HETFIELD: Okay.
1660
01:47:36,348 --> 01:47:39,181
HAMMETT: I think it's something--
Yeah, I think it's something
1661
01:47:39,348 --> 01:47:42,181
we need to do
for our own well-being.
1662
01:47:42,348 --> 01:47:46,341
HETFIELD: Yeah, because
I'm feeling uncomfortable.
1663
01:47:54,708 --> 01:47:58,587
ROCK:
Yeah, hello? Hello, hello.
1664
01:47:58,748 --> 01:47:59,976
Are they on the phone?
1665
01:48:00,148 --> 01:48:01,706
ROCK: They're on the phone,
and they need you.
1666
01:48:01,868 --> 01:48:03,540
Oh, okay.
1667
01:48:03,708 --> 01:48:06,142
ULRICH: James Hetfield is in the room.
HETFIELD: Hey there.
1668
01:48:06,348 --> 01:48:08,623
BURNSTEIN: Hey, how you doing?
HETFIELD: Pretty good.
1669
01:48:08,788 --> 01:48:11,097
BURNSTEIN:
I'll let Marc do the talking.
1670
01:48:11,268 --> 01:48:13,464
He's the one who's
been talking to MTV.
1671
01:48:13,629 --> 01:48:18,100
REITER: Okay, this afternoon,
the official offer came in for ICON.
1672
01:48:18,269 --> 01:48:21,102
- Assuming you wanna do it.
ULRICH: Let's do it.
1673
01:48:21,309 --> 01:48:23,903
Cool, man.
Yeah, I'm jazzed about it.
1674
01:48:24,109 --> 01:48:26,259
REITER: The only thing
that you guys are required to do
1675
01:48:26,429 --> 01:48:28,704
is show up for rehearsal
and then show up
1676
01:48:28,869 --> 01:48:31,542
for the show on the 3rd,
and at the end of the show
1677
01:48:31,709 --> 01:48:34,940
you guys take the stage
and perform a little bit.
1678
01:48:35,109 --> 01:48:36,667
HAMMETT:
So, what's Jason's role in all this?
1679
01:48:36,829 --> 01:48:38,023
HETFIELD:
What? Who?
1680
01:48:38,189 --> 01:48:41,261
REITER: Cliff? I mean,
I don't think Jason has any role.
1681
01:48:41,429 --> 01:48:44,865
BURNSTEIN: He lost his icon status
when he left Metallica.
1682
01:48:45,069 --> 01:48:46,263
[LAUGHING]
1683
01:48:46,629 --> 01:48:49,018
REITER: Nice one, Cliff.
BURNSTEIN: Thank you.
1684
01:48:49,189 --> 01:48:52,545
REITER: I think MTV would like the
fact that this would most likely be
1685
01:48:52,709 --> 01:48:56,179
the introductory performance
of Metallica with a new bass player,
1686
01:48:56,389 --> 01:48:57,822
whether it's the new member
or whoever.
1687
01:48:58,029 --> 01:49:00,543
When is it supposed to be?
May what?
1688
01:49:00,709 --> 01:49:03,018
May 3rd. Saturday, May 3rd.
1689
01:49:03,189 --> 01:49:06,022
See, that means you'd have
to hire someone by the 2nd.
1690
01:49:06,189 --> 01:49:08,306
ULRICH: Okay.
- I think it can happen.
1691
01:49:08,470 --> 01:49:11,143
REITER: You'd be required to be
in Los Angeles for all of two days...
1692
01:49:11,310 --> 01:49:13,824
ULRICH: Because we didn't get a new
bass player, I think a lot of people
1693
01:49:13,990 --> 01:49:16,868
thought maybe that we were
having trouble finding one.
1694
01:49:17,030 --> 01:49:20,989
We never started looking for a new
bass player until two months ago.
1695
01:49:21,150 --> 01:49:26,463
We worked on ourselves,
identified what part can we work on
1696
01:49:26,630 --> 01:49:30,305
so when someone else steps in,
it's clean.
1697
01:49:30,470 --> 01:49:32,700
They're not stepping in our shit,
you know?
1698
01:49:36,190 --> 01:49:38,385
HETFIELD: All right, thinking
about bass players, finally?
1699
01:49:38,550 --> 01:49:41,144
So we're gonna need
a fourth member.
1700
01:49:41,830 --> 01:49:45,140
You know, we know you're
a great bass player. It's the vibe.
1701
01:49:45,310 --> 01:49:46,345
We need to make sure...
1702
01:49:46,510 --> 01:49:50,219
TOWLE: Jason kind of triggered
this whole thing a couple of years ago.
1703
01:49:50,390 --> 01:49:53,826
And I can't believe it's been two years.
And now we've gone through some...
1704
01:49:53,990 --> 01:49:55,343
ULRICH: We realized that
we kind of wanted somebody
1705
01:49:55,510 --> 01:49:57,307
who was, like, our age.
1706
01:49:57,470 --> 01:50:00,746
Somebody who had been
around the block a couple times.
1707
01:50:00,990 --> 01:50:03,903
We've grown a lot, man.
These three guys
1708
01:50:04,071 --> 01:50:05,743
and this band.
1709
01:50:05,911 --> 01:50:10,462
And last time, when we did
this 14, 15 years ago,
1710
01:50:10,631 --> 01:50:12,110
16 years ago, I guess it was,
1711
01:50:12,271 --> 01:50:15,547
we literally sat down and started
auditioning bass players,
1712
01:50:15,711 --> 01:50:18,145
you know, the day after
the funeral for Cliff.
1713
01:50:18,311 --> 01:50:22,623
So now it's 16 years later,
different circumstances.
1714
01:50:23,471 --> 01:50:26,463
HARMON: When Jason left,
he took his basses with him.
1715
01:50:27,551 --> 01:50:30,065
Do you want a four or five?
1716
01:50:30,231 --> 01:50:32,904
Whatever.
What five-strings do you have?
1717
01:50:34,631 --> 01:50:36,064
This one's a five-string.
1718
01:50:39,071 --> 01:50:41,539
SINGS:
Keep searching
1719
01:50:41,911 --> 01:50:44,948
Keep on searching
1720
01:50:45,111 --> 01:50:47,784
This search goes on
1721
01:50:47,951 --> 01:50:50,784
This search goes on
1722
01:50:50,951 --> 01:50:52,942
HARMON: The band-- These guys
collectively probably own,
1723
01:50:53,111 --> 01:50:56,103
like, five to 600 guitars,
so they're not all here.
1724
01:50:56,511 --> 01:50:57,660
Wow.
1725
01:50:57,831 --> 01:50:59,060
[SINGS]
On and on
1726
01:50:59,232 --> 01:51:02,463
Tick tick tick tick tick tick tock
Frantic
1727
01:51:02,632 --> 01:51:05,465
Tick tick tick tick tick tick tock
Frantic
1728
01:51:05,632 --> 01:51:08,385
Tick tick tick tick tick tick tock
Frantic
1729
01:51:08,592 --> 01:51:11,231
Tick tick tick tick tick tick tock
1730
01:51:14,032 --> 01:51:15,943
You went into
another voice there, dude.
1731
01:51:16,392 --> 01:51:19,065
Which one of me are you talking to?
1732
01:51:19,912 --> 01:51:22,631
ULRICH: Think that we should just
spend the next two and a half hours
1733
01:51:22,792 --> 01:51:24,020
with this guy.
1734
01:51:25,152 --> 01:51:26,790
Don't you?
1735
01:51:26,992 --> 01:51:30,462
I had a vision of us jamming
with him the last hour.
1736
01:51:30,632 --> 01:51:33,465
I guess I just feel this is
just kind of, like, weird to keep,
1737
01:51:33,632 --> 01:51:37,784
like, just doing our own thing.
It just feels not welcoming.
1738
01:51:37,992 --> 01:51:41,985
HETFIELD: This morning I heard
him say he was pretty comfortable.
1739
01:51:42,152 --> 01:51:46,384
It's not about what he says.
It's about what I feel.
1740
01:51:46,592 --> 01:51:48,708
All right?
Are we cool, James?
1741
01:51:49,392 --> 01:51:52,987
Yeah. I guess the only other thing
I'd like to say is,
1742
01:51:53,152 --> 01:51:56,623
you know, when we leave this up
to just how we're feeling,
1743
01:51:56,793 --> 01:52:00,024
a lot of it depends
on how you're feeling.
1744
01:52:00,193 --> 01:52:02,184
You know,
when you say those things.
1745
01:52:02,393 --> 01:52:04,509
Not that I wanna break up
what you guys are discussing,
1746
01:52:04,673 --> 01:52:06,868
if you wanna go deeper, you know?
1747
01:52:07,033 --> 01:52:11,549
But I think what might be really good
is to treat this with respect,
1748
01:52:11,713 --> 01:52:13,544
go out and do this...
1749
01:52:23,473 --> 01:52:25,543
Metallica stuff?
1750
01:52:25,713 --> 01:52:28,830
- I could try "Battery."
ULRICH: "Battery"?
1751
01:52:28,993 --> 01:52:30,506
You can play that fast
with your fingers?
1752
01:52:30,673 --> 01:52:31,662
Yeah!
1753
01:52:31,833 --> 01:52:33,983
[SINGS]
Battery
1754
01:52:58,994 --> 01:53:01,986
That's a fucking pretty mighty
bass sound you got going there.
1755
01:53:02,234 --> 01:53:03,633
HAMMETT: Yeah, it's fucking--
- I don't know.
1756
01:53:03,794 --> 01:53:05,705
It's the Mesa and the Hiwatt.
1757
01:53:05,874 --> 01:53:08,991
Is there anything else you know
as well as that?
1758
01:53:55,675 --> 01:53:57,666
Cliff. It was just like you saw Cliff,
1759
01:53:57,835 --> 01:54:01,828
and me and James went,
"He's in our band, there's no question."
1760
01:54:01,995 --> 01:54:04,145
He hit it out of the park.
1761
01:54:06,315 --> 01:54:08,590
And that's where it
sort of gets interesting.
1762
01:54:08,755 --> 01:54:10,666
Because if Cliff Burton
showed up today,
1763
01:54:10,835 --> 01:54:13,144
maybe he wouldn't be the guy either.
1764
01:54:15,075 --> 01:54:17,748
I mean, the three guys that I like
all have unique features
1765
01:54:17,915 --> 01:54:20,304
that I would love to Frankenstein,
you know?
1766
01:54:20,475 --> 01:54:22,466
- Yeah! Definitely.
- Some kind of monster?
1767
01:54:22,675 --> 01:54:24,745
That would be great.
1768
01:54:27,195 --> 01:54:31,313
I don't think you should settle.
I think you should get the right guy.
1769
01:54:31,915 --> 01:54:34,145
If you don't hit it out of the park
with one of these guys,
1770
01:54:34,315 --> 01:54:36,909
then you're gonna end up
four years down the road
1771
01:54:37,075 --> 01:54:40,307
in the same situation you did
with Jason.
1772
01:54:41,356 --> 01:54:45,144
A four count, then...
And into the solo.
1773
01:54:45,356 --> 01:54:47,711
Just follow.
1774
01:55:12,716 --> 01:55:15,867
He was the first guy of any of them
1775
01:55:16,036 --> 01:55:19,665
- that didn't look like he was struggling.
- That's what I told Bob.
1776
01:55:19,876 --> 01:55:21,912
Do you know what I mean
about, like, it--?
1777
01:55:22,076 --> 01:55:23,509
You know, with some
of the other guys,
1778
01:55:23,676 --> 01:55:26,429
it was sort of 10 percent
over their capabilities,
1779
01:55:26,596 --> 01:55:29,190
or something like that. You don't
feel that with this guy at all.
1780
01:55:29,596 --> 01:55:31,507
It's like the last three songs,
1781
01:55:31,676 --> 01:55:35,225
like "Sanitarium," "Nothing Else
Matters" and what was...?
1782
01:55:35,436 --> 01:55:38,190
- "Sad But True."
- "Sad But True," they were flawless.
1783
01:55:38,357 --> 01:55:40,587
I looked over at him
during "Whiplash,"
1784
01:55:40,757 --> 01:55:43,351
and he was just right in the pocket
and in there.
1785
01:55:43,517 --> 01:55:47,908
And then afterwards, when he
played it alone with his finger,
1786
01:55:48,077 --> 01:55:50,910
it hadn't been played that way
since Cliff.
1787
01:55:52,197 --> 01:55:54,028
It's just, like:
1788
01:55:55,957 --> 01:55:58,790
- Yeah.
- Yeah, his finger's a pick, you know?
1789
01:55:58,957 --> 01:56:01,551
- Yeah.
- Yeah, it's three picks.
1790
01:56:02,957 --> 01:56:06,506
All right, are we
gonna sack Bob now?
1791
01:56:36,878 --> 01:56:38,436
Well, the second time
you came back,
1792
01:56:38,638 --> 01:56:40,629
I mean, that was, for me,
when I noticed
1793
01:56:40,798 --> 01:56:42,834
that you make us play better, man.
1794
01:56:43,038 --> 01:56:46,110
You make the band sound
so much better.
1795
01:56:46,278 --> 01:56:48,633
- So solid.
- How do you feel about that, man?
1796
01:56:48,798 --> 01:56:50,595
Well, I feel awesome, man.
1797
01:56:50,758 --> 01:56:54,717
- You're the chosen one.
- You looked coolest.
1798
01:56:54,958 --> 01:56:58,633
And we want you to be a real member
of this band, not just a hired hand.
1799
01:56:58,798 --> 01:57:02,711
And we'd like to offer you--
Basically, to give--
1800
01:57:02,878 --> 01:57:04,470
To show you how serious
we are about this,
1801
01:57:04,638 --> 01:57:09,792
offer you a million dollars
to join our band right now.
1802
01:57:09,958 --> 01:57:11,357
- And--
- Wait, okay.
1803
01:57:11,518 --> 01:57:14,635
And as a kind of a good-faith thing
about how serious we are--
1804
01:57:14,798 --> 01:57:17,073
It's an advance.
It's an advance on some percentage
1805
01:57:17,238 --> 01:57:18,637
you're gonna be making
with the band.
1806
01:57:18,798 --> 01:57:23,189
Here's money up front to get you
kicked in and inspired and:
1807
01:57:23,358 --> 01:57:27,796
"This is a reality. This is my future.
This is what life can hold for me
1808
01:57:27,959 --> 01:57:29,836
with my new family."
1809
01:57:32,359 --> 01:57:34,714
I can't really talk right now.
1810
01:57:34,959 --> 01:57:37,348
Invisible kid
Never see what he did
1811
01:57:37,519 --> 01:57:40,909
Got stuck where he hid
Falling through the grid
1812
01:57:41,079 --> 01:57:43,673
Invisible kid
Got a place of his own
1813
01:57:43,839 --> 01:57:47,149
Where he'll never be known
Inward he's grown
1814
01:57:47,319 --> 01:57:49,787
Invisible kid
Never see what he did
1815
01:57:49,959 --> 01:57:52,996
Got stuck where he hid
Falling through the grid
1816
01:57:53,159 --> 01:57:55,593
Invisible kid
Got a place of his own
1817
01:57:55,759 --> 01:57:59,957
Where he'll never be known
Inward he's grown
1818
01:58:01,719 --> 01:58:03,994
There's things that I miss,
and I'm sad it couldn't work out,
1819
01:58:04,159 --> 01:58:07,276
and things, you know, like that. But
there's way, way, way, way more times
1820
01:58:07,439 --> 01:58:13,355
and way more days and even hours
that go by and I'm reminded, "Dude,
1821
01:58:13,519 --> 01:58:16,158
all right.
You did the right thing."
1822
01:58:16,359 --> 01:58:18,873
You know, "You did the right thing
for yourself."
1823
01:58:26,360 --> 01:58:29,318
I don't know if it's the right time
to say this,
1824
01:58:29,480 --> 01:58:32,153
but, I don't know,
I've been thinking about our talk.
1825
01:58:32,360 --> 01:58:38,674
About, you know, you and us and
our future and all of that stuff, and...
1826
01:58:39,520 --> 01:58:41,829
And, you know, when I heard
that you guys were moving here
1827
01:58:42,000 --> 01:58:44,958
and all of that, that brought up
a lot of fear around:
1828
01:58:45,160 --> 01:58:50,154
"Wow, what is Phil's perception of,
you know, his, you know, longevity
1829
01:58:50,360 --> 01:58:53,113
with Metallica?" You know?
That scared me a little bit.
1830
01:58:53,280 --> 01:58:55,350
Well, I appreciate that. I was--
1831
01:58:55,560 --> 01:58:58,757
If it scared you, and that's part
of the issue going forward,
1832
01:58:59,280 --> 01:59:01,953
then let me say we haven't decided
we're moving here.
1833
01:59:02,120 --> 01:59:06,272
I've tried to make it clear
that we're selling--
1834
01:59:06,440 --> 01:59:08,874
I think we've told people we're selling
our house in Kansas City,
1835
01:59:09,040 --> 01:59:12,157
but that doesn't mean
we're moving here, okay?
1836
01:59:12,440 --> 01:59:15,113
And we won't likely move
to San Francisco
1837
01:59:15,280 --> 01:59:19,877
if there's not a future out there
with Metallica,
1838
01:59:20,041 --> 01:59:22,635
because, you know, that's my--
1839
01:59:22,761 --> 01:59:25,355
I wanna make sure
that the bass player's intact.
1840
01:59:25,561 --> 01:59:27,358
I wanna be sure that the tour's on.
1841
01:59:27,561 --> 01:59:31,713
And I also, as I said,
have performance-coach visions
1842
01:59:31,881 --> 01:59:36,477
for each of you and for the band.
And l-- To me, the work isn't over.
1843
01:59:37,961 --> 01:59:41,237
I'd like us to honour what we had,
1844
01:59:41,961 --> 01:59:43,360
and if you wanna be away from--
1845
01:59:43,561 --> 01:59:45,995
You know, on your own or something
for the couple of months
1846
01:59:46,161 --> 01:59:48,356
until we come back in June,
that's okay. I just kind of--
1847
01:59:48,561 --> 01:59:50,756
I don't know. I guess I have a problem
1848
01:59:50,961 --> 01:59:53,429
with the, "Let's see how it works out.
Let's see how it happens,"
1849
01:59:53,601 --> 01:59:57,037
and then, "No, let's honour what
happened, you know, six months ago."
1850
01:59:57,201 --> 02:00:00,876
You know? That's kind of strange
to me, you know?
1851
02:00:01,161 --> 02:00:04,392
Because I think that you use
those things
1852
02:00:04,841 --> 02:00:07,230
when they're convenient at times,
you know?
1853
02:00:07,401 --> 02:00:11,713
Personal stuff or business things.
And I don't know. I don't know.
1854
02:00:11,881 --> 02:00:16,160
They're-- The boundaries are--
I don't-- Becoming more clear to me.
1855
02:00:18,402 --> 02:00:24,272
There's that element of-- Of trust that
just kind of floats with you with me.
1856
02:00:24,482 --> 02:00:29,556
And l-- And that-- I'm really sorry
about that. That-- You know.
1857
02:00:29,722 --> 02:00:32,839
I've been swimming uphill
on that one for a long time with you,
1858
02:00:33,002 --> 02:00:34,720
and I'd like for us
to be able to resolve it.
1859
02:00:34,882 --> 02:00:36,156
But maybe we can't.
1860
02:00:36,322 --> 02:00:39,678
I've gotta tell you that l--
You know, if the client,
1861
02:00:39,842 --> 02:00:42,993
either James or us, says:
1862
02:00:43,162 --> 02:00:48,873
You know, then I really think that
needs to be respected without,
1863
02:00:50,082 --> 02:00:52,676
you know, just, you know,
the old turn-the-knife thing in there.
1864
02:00:52,842 --> 02:00:54,912
You know, it's just, you know,
if the client says,
1865
02:00:55,082 --> 02:00:57,835
you know, timeout for a while,
timeout.
1866
02:00:58,002 --> 02:01:01,756
That is great, although we--
Our process, what we normally do--
1867
02:01:01,922 --> 02:01:05,756
Then it should be put on the table,
but left on the table,
1868
02:01:05,922 --> 02:01:10,280
and should be able to walk away
without what you're saying right now,
1869
02:01:10,443 --> 02:01:12,593
which is now there are trust issues
and stuff.
1870
02:01:12,883 --> 02:01:15,602
I don't know how to separate out--
1871
02:01:15,803 --> 02:01:18,271
In its simplest form,
I think it's a conflict of interest
1872
02:01:18,443 --> 02:01:21,276
that you tell him that he needs
you around more.
1873
02:01:21,443 --> 02:01:22,876
- If he has--
- No, no, no, no, no.
1874
02:01:23,043 --> 02:01:24,112
I'm not saying that.
1875
02:01:24,283 --> 02:01:26,114
I see that as a conflict of interest.
1876
02:01:26,283 --> 02:01:30,117
Look, I am saying you guys
have made a decision.
1877
02:01:30,403 --> 02:01:33,873
It's okay for me to say
I'm not happy with that decision.
1878
02:01:34,563 --> 02:01:37,999
The premise is,
you guys don't need me.
1879
02:01:38,163 --> 02:01:40,597
And I'm good with that.
1880
02:01:41,043 --> 02:01:45,275
Anyway, you go... It's--
1881
02:01:45,443 --> 02:01:47,832
- Anyway, let's jam.
- Great, I'll see you guys.
1882
02:01:48,003 --> 02:01:51,962
I'm taking off. I'll see you
next week. Have a good one.
1883
02:01:52,123 --> 02:01:53,602
Thanks, man.
1884
02:01:53,763 --> 02:01:57,039
Who's in charge of my head today?
1885
02:01:58,763 --> 02:02:02,199
Dancing devils in angel's way
1886
02:02:03,443 --> 02:02:07,801
It's my time now
It's my time now
1887
02:02:08,004 --> 02:02:10,313
It's my time now
It's my time
1888
02:02:12,884 --> 02:02:16,593
Look out, motherfuckers
Here I come
1889
02:02:17,164 --> 02:02:22,397
I'm gonna make my head my home
1890
02:02:22,564 --> 02:02:27,160
The sons of bitches
Try to take my head
1891
02:02:27,324 --> 02:02:28,552
Tried to make me
Someone else instead
1892
02:02:28,724 --> 02:02:31,033
You've been in the band for five
minutes, and you're an icon?
1893
02:02:31,204 --> 02:02:34,276
It's such an honour,
and, you know, I'm stoked. So...
1894
02:02:41,804 --> 02:02:43,999
Your voting interest will equal
your percentage interest
1895
02:02:44,164 --> 02:02:45,802
in a new account,
while each of our voting interests
1896
02:02:46,004 --> 02:02:47,073
will be one-third of the difference
1897
02:02:47,244 --> 02:02:48,916
between 100 percent
and your percentage.
1898
02:02:49,644 --> 02:02:53,478
This is about as lawyer as you get.
But it's really--
1899
02:02:53,644 --> 02:02:55,760
- Sort of laying out--
- Yeah, lays out the deal.
1900
02:02:55,924 --> 02:03:00,396
Okay, so, for instance, in the first
period you have 5 percent, okay?
1901
02:03:00,605 --> 02:03:03,483
So when we do a vote, you
get 32 votes, you get 32 votes,
1902
02:03:03,645 --> 02:03:07,035
you get 32 votes, you get five votes,
in any vote, okay?
1903
02:03:07,205 --> 02:03:10,481
- But this doesn't mean anything.
- I think it's crap. I mean, l--
1904
02:03:10,645 --> 02:03:12,920
I think in the spirit
of what we're trying to do,
1905
02:03:13,085 --> 02:03:16,077
we better do 25, and then
Q Prime's the tiebreaker. That's--
1906
02:03:16,245 --> 02:03:19,203
That works, that's fine. Cool.
1907
02:03:38,805 --> 02:03:41,638
Now, here it also says, "You will not
be required to fund any losses
1908
02:03:41,805 --> 02:03:44,080
in the new Metallica account,
but we will be entitled
1909
02:03:44,245 --> 02:03:45,997
to recover any losses out
of future profits."
1910
02:03:46,205 --> 02:03:49,641
For instance, buying the documentary,
it's not your problem.
1911
02:03:49,805 --> 02:03:52,763
If the documentary loses money
and the company never makes
1912
02:03:52,925 --> 02:03:55,998
any more money again,
it's these three guys' problem.
1913
02:03:56,326 --> 02:03:59,523
Exactly.
1914
02:03:59,686 --> 02:04:01,199
"What'd you do with your money?"
1915
02:04:01,366 --> 02:04:03,322
"I went and bought a car,
I bought my mom a house,
1916
02:04:03,486 --> 02:04:05,875
and we went and bought
a documentary."
1917
02:04:06,046 --> 02:04:08,116
It was just-- You gotta keep
in the spirit of this whole thing.
1918
02:04:22,126 --> 02:04:26,677
By the end of this week,
we're gonna have an album title.
1919
02:04:26,886 --> 02:04:29,764
Because in three days, we won't
have to agonize about this anymore.
1920
02:04:30,246 --> 02:04:35,081
Well, the thing that stood out to me
was St. Anger. It's strong.
1921
02:04:35,246 --> 02:04:39,000
I mean, there's--
Iconic strong, you know?
1922
02:04:39,166 --> 02:04:41,361
HAMMETT: I like that title quite a bit.
- It's so easy
1923
02:04:41,566 --> 02:04:43,761
just to say,
"June 17th is St. Anger's Day."
1924
02:04:43,926 --> 02:04:45,837
- Yeah, well, it's true. That's cool.
- No, I mean--
1925
02:04:46,006 --> 02:04:48,998
I think Frantic is a better album title.
1926
02:04:50,166 --> 02:04:51,486
- I think that's--
- I don't know.
1927
02:04:51,647 --> 02:04:54,525
- It's more about the record.
- But St. Anger's a good--
1928
02:04:54,687 --> 02:04:57,759
It's an original statement.
St. Anger, St. Anger.
1929
02:04:57,967 --> 02:04:59,366
Well, this is an angry record,
1930
02:04:59,527 --> 02:05:02,360
but you read the lyrics,
it's angry in a healthy way.
1931
02:05:02,527 --> 02:05:04,040
- It's also frantic.
- Getting stuff out.
1932
02:05:04,207 --> 02:05:08,519
Frantic is more like,
"They're trying things that they don't--
1933
02:05:08,687 --> 02:05:10,200
They don't--
They're not exactly sure of.
1934
02:05:10,367 --> 02:05:11,720
They don't know what they're doing.
1935
02:05:11,887 --> 02:05:15,163
They're trying to climb back up
the mountain again.
1936
02:05:15,367 --> 02:05:17,278
They're not sure of themselves."
1937
02:05:17,527 --> 02:05:19,677
I mean, hello, that's a fair thing.
1938
02:05:19,847 --> 02:05:23,522
I mean, if you think that Frantic
has a negative connotation to it,
1939
02:05:23,687 --> 02:05:25,359
I never thought of it like that.
1940
02:05:25,527 --> 02:05:28,246
If it's St. Anger,
they're gonna form an image of:
1941
02:05:28,447 --> 02:05:30,756
"These guys are angry. I know it.
1942
02:05:30,927 --> 02:05:33,760
They're angry about Napster.
They're angry about the new stuff
1943
02:05:33,927 --> 02:05:36,600
that's coming in.
They're angry about their lives.
1944
02:05:36,767 --> 02:05:38,439
I'm angry too. I get it."
1945
02:05:43,607 --> 02:05:47,487
I think you guys know the idea about
shooting a video in San Quentin.
1946
02:05:49,448 --> 02:05:50,676
So let me get this straight.
1947
02:05:50,848 --> 02:05:52,964
You're gonna go to
a maximum-security prison,
1948
02:05:53,128 --> 02:05:56,120
and Metallica's gonna play
"St. Anger" really loud.
1949
02:05:56,288 --> 02:05:57,846
- Yeah!
- Yeah!
1950
02:05:59,928 --> 02:06:04,524
St. Anger 'round my neck
1951
02:06:04,688 --> 02:06:09,967
St. Anger 'round my neck
1952
02:06:10,128 --> 02:06:15,043
He never gets respect
1953
02:06:15,208 --> 02:06:19,838
St. Anger 'round my neck
1954
02:06:20,208 --> 02:06:22,278
I've been asked to come out here
and talk a little bit
1955
02:06:22,448 --> 02:06:24,643
about what this song means to us.
1956
02:06:24,808 --> 02:06:30,519
Anger's an emotion that I've struggled
with for pretty much all my life.
1957
02:06:30,768 --> 02:06:35,523
- St. Anger 'round my neck
- You flush it out, you flush it out
1958
02:06:35,728 --> 02:06:41,440
He never gets respect
1959
02:06:43,529 --> 02:06:45,360
There's a lot of misspent anger
1960
02:06:45,529 --> 02:06:48,760
that has come out sideways
for a lot of people.
1961
02:06:49,449 --> 02:06:51,360
Including yourselves.
1962
02:06:51,529 --> 02:06:53,963
And if I hadn't had music in my life,
1963
02:06:54,129 --> 02:06:58,725
it's quite possible I could be in here,
or not even in here, be dead.
1964
02:06:58,889 --> 02:07:04,327
And I'd much rather be alive.
1965
02:07:04,729 --> 02:07:06,720
Madly in anger with you
1966
02:07:06,889 --> 02:07:09,357
I'm madly in anger with you
1967
02:07:09,529 --> 02:07:11,838
I'm madly in anger with you
1968
02:07:12,369 --> 02:07:14,758
I'm madly in anger with you
1969
02:07:16,129 --> 02:07:18,768
I'm pretty nervous up here.
I don't really know what to say.
1970
02:07:18,929 --> 02:07:21,124
I'm just trying to share
some of what's going on for me.
1971
02:07:21,329 --> 02:07:24,958
I'm not here to sell nothing,
that's for damn sure.
1972
02:07:30,209 --> 02:07:32,803
Everyone is born good.
1973
02:07:33,129 --> 02:07:36,759
Everyone's got the same size soul,
and we're here to connect with that.
1974
02:07:36,930 --> 02:07:38,966
So we're very proud to be
in your house
1975
02:07:39,130 --> 02:07:41,724
and play some music for you.
Thanks.
1976
02:08:02,930 --> 02:08:05,080
More than any other record,
I don't know if you feel that,
1977
02:08:05,330 --> 02:08:07,605
but for me, this is like product
1978
02:08:07,850 --> 02:08:11,047
of what we're just doing, hanging out.
You know what I mean?
1979
02:08:11,210 --> 02:08:12,723
- It's almost like a diary.
- Yeah.
1980
02:08:12,890 --> 02:08:17,042
It's like, here's our memories on CD,
you know?
1981
02:08:17,210 --> 02:08:20,998
It's like we've proven that
you can make aggressive music
1982
02:08:21,210 --> 02:08:23,166
- without negative energy.
- Yeah.
1983
02:08:23,330 --> 02:08:27,482
Okay, and I don't think anybody ever
thought that that would be possible.
1984
02:08:27,690 --> 02:08:29,885
You know? You can make
something that's aggressive
1985
02:08:30,050 --> 02:08:33,805
and fucked up, okay?
With positive energy
1986
02:08:34,011 --> 02:08:37,401
- between the people creating it.
- Yeah.
1987
02:08:38,051 --> 02:08:42,010
It hit me, you know? This project's
coming to an end, and I don't know,
1988
02:08:42,171 --> 02:08:44,002
I think I'm kind of bummed
about that.
1989
02:08:44,171 --> 02:08:49,199
I'm kind of, just, kind of liking
the schedule that happens,
1990
02:08:49,411 --> 02:08:54,405
or the safeness in that.
Coming here, being able to talk.
1991
02:08:54,611 --> 02:09:00,607
Creating, you know?
And... I don't know.
1992
02:09:01,091 --> 02:09:07,087
I've been kind of coming down
from this for about the past month.
1993
02:09:07,811 --> 02:09:11,486
I mean, getting up at 5 in the morning,
and just pacing my apartment.
1994
02:09:11,651 --> 02:09:15,485
Just not really knowing
what the hell I'm doing either.
1995
02:09:15,651 --> 02:09:17,801
So I'm with you.
1996
02:09:20,011 --> 02:09:23,083
Like, I don't wanna let you go home.
1997
02:09:23,251 --> 02:09:24,650
I don't know.
1998
02:09:24,811 --> 02:09:29,488
I really appreciate that.
That's really nice of you to say.
1999
02:09:30,652 --> 02:09:33,086
I don't know, I can feel myself
kind of protecting myself
2000
02:09:33,252 --> 02:09:39,327
with some depression or something,
wanting to just kind of isolate.
2001
02:09:39,492 --> 02:09:40,925
And I don't wanna do that.
2002
02:09:41,092 --> 02:09:42,810
I wanna feel the sadness of--
2003
02:09:43,012 --> 02:09:46,004
I mean, I didn't feel depressed,
I felt sad.
2004
02:09:46,172 --> 02:09:50,006
And that's when I knew it was
something different than just me...
2005
02:09:50,172 --> 02:09:52,003
My old stuff, you know?
2006
02:09:52,332 --> 02:09:55,768
I mean, there is some of that, but...
2007
02:09:56,652 --> 02:10:01,407
Sadness and depression, I guess
I don't really know the difference.
2008
02:10:02,772 --> 02:10:06,481
And, Phil, all the stuff
that you've brought here to, like...
2009
02:10:06,652 --> 02:10:09,724
You've set out all the tools,
like, you know?
2010
02:10:10,172 --> 02:10:14,211
And you allowed us to build
what we've built, you know?
2011
02:10:17,652 --> 02:10:20,007
With guidance.
2012
02:10:20,612 --> 02:10:24,322
I really appreciate your bringing
this forward.
2013
02:10:24,493 --> 02:10:26,802
And there is a difference between
sadness and depression.
2014
02:10:27,013 --> 02:10:28,765
Clearly.
2015
02:10:33,773 --> 02:10:37,925
This is the hugest chapter in my life.
2016
02:10:44,933 --> 02:10:47,208
[CHEERING]
2017
02:13:52,976 --> 02:13:55,251
If I could have my wasted days back
2018
02:13:55,456 --> 02:13:58,254
Would I use them to get
Back on track?
2019
02:14:01,416 --> 02:14:03,327
Stand back. Stand back.
Keep away from the car.
2020
02:14:03,616 --> 02:14:06,415
- I love you.
- I love you too.
2021
02:14:07,497 --> 02:14:09,931
Can I find it inside
To deal with what I shouldn't know?
2022
02:14:10,097 --> 02:14:16,969
Could I have my wasted days back
Would I use them to get back on track?
2023
02:14:18,457 --> 02:14:21,210
You live it or lie it
You live it or lie it
2024
02:14:21,497 --> 02:14:24,330
You live it or lie it
You live it or lie it
2025
02:14:24,497 --> 02:14:27,807
My lifestyle determines my deathstyle
2026
02:14:28,737 --> 02:14:31,570
Determines my deathstyle
2027
02:14:31,817 --> 02:14:37,767
Keep searching
Keep on searching
2028
02:14:37,977 --> 02:14:42,767
This search goes on
On and on
2029
02:14:43,777 --> 02:14:48,976
Keep searching, keep on searching
2030
02:14:49,177 --> 02:14:53,295
This search goes on
On and on
2031
02:14:53,457 --> 02:14:56,051
Frantic
Tick tick tick tick tick tick tock
2032
02:14:56,177 --> 02:14:58,975
Frantic
Tick tick tick tick tick tick tock
2033
02:14:59,137 --> 02:15:01,971
Frantic
Tick tick tick tick tick tick tock
2034
02:15:02,138 --> 02:15:06,177
Frantic
Tick tick tick tick tick tick tock
2035
02:15:13,778 --> 02:15:15,370
Go!
2036
02:15:28,138 --> 02:15:29,287
Thank you so much
2037
02:15:29,458 --> 02:15:33,371
for supporting Metallica through all
the rough times and all the great times.
2038
02:15:33,858 --> 02:15:36,372
Metallica loves you!
2039
02:15:38,138 --> 02:15:39,457
Yeah!
2040
02:15:52,378 --> 02:15:54,972
Yeah!
2041
02:15:55,178 --> 02:15:57,135
Fucking a!
2042
02:16:01,459 --> 02:16:04,895
Metallica! Metallica! Metallica!
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