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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,089 --> 00:00:13,557 The living don't stand a chance here. 2 00:00:13,659 --> 00:00:15,025 I feel like we're being watched. 3 00:00:15,128 --> 00:00:16,494 - You do. - Yes. 4 00:00:16,596 --> 00:00:18,996 I feel like he would hunt me down and kill me. 5 00:00:20,500 --> 00:00:21,832 I had a couple cases of beer. 6 00:00:21,934 --> 00:00:24,168 Right after I left the room, they fell. 7 00:00:24,270 --> 00:00:27,171 There's also, like, a lot of sex and bad... 8 00:00:27,273 --> 00:00:28,572 it's so bad. 9 00:00:28,674 --> 00:00:29,874 A lot of times, 10 00:00:29,976 --> 00:00:32,076 these women would get black market abortions. 11 00:00:32,178 --> 00:00:36,914 AMY: This man was a killer. 12 00:00:37,016 --> 00:00:38,649 I just hear death. 13 00:00:38,751 --> 00:00:40,918 My name is Amy Allan. 14 00:00:41,020 --> 00:00:42,653 Oh, God. 15 00:00:42,755 --> 00:00:44,822 It's like, "I'm going to get you." 16 00:00:44,924 --> 00:00:45,990 I see dead people. 17 00:00:46,092 --> 00:00:47,191 Her face was all demonic. 18 00:00:47,293 --> 00:00:48,993 I speak to dead people... 19 00:00:49,095 --> 00:00:51,896 He's like, "You think you can stop me? Because you can't." 20 00:00:51,998 --> 00:00:53,297 ...and they speak to me. 21 00:00:53,399 --> 00:00:55,266 - What is he trying to do? - Kill them. 22 00:00:55,368 --> 00:00:57,968 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 23 00:00:58,070 --> 00:00:59,870 Something happened. Bam. Bam. Bam. 24 00:00:59,972 --> 00:01:01,038 I rely on my partner. 25 00:01:01,140 --> 00:01:02,573 I'm Steve Di Shiavi. 26 00:01:02,675 --> 00:01:04,842 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 27 00:01:04,944 --> 00:01:06,310 Am I seeing what I think I'm seeing? 28 00:01:06,412 --> 00:01:09,914 I know every person, every house has secrets. 29 00:01:10,016 --> 00:01:11,816 - They're everywhere. - It's my job to reveal them. 30 00:01:11,918 --> 00:01:14,618 This guy's got the markings of a serial killer. 31 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,987 But Steve and I never speak... 32 00:01:17,089 --> 00:01:19,056 We never communicate during an investigation... 33 00:01:19,158 --> 00:01:20,324 ...until the very end... 34 00:01:20,426 --> 00:01:21,926 Is this dead guy doing that to her? 35 00:01:22,028 --> 00:01:23,727 When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 36 00:01:23,830 --> 00:01:25,896 That's it. 37 00:01:25,998 --> 00:01:27,798 ...or time to get out. 38 00:01:27,900 --> 00:01:31,168 Somebody's gonna die over there soon. Yeah. 39 00:01:32,081 --> 00:01:36,989 - Sync and corrected by TheDelta - - www.addic7ed.com - 40 00:01:41,380 --> 00:01:43,714 41 00:01:43,816 --> 00:01:46,150 I'm in Paso Robles, California. 42 00:01:46,252 --> 00:01:48,619 It's halfway between LA and San Francisco. 43 00:01:48,721 --> 00:01:50,621 I got a call from a guy named Ron. 44 00:01:50,723 --> 00:01:53,090 Now, he owns a historic bar in town, 45 00:01:53,192 --> 00:01:56,427 but activity's so bad employees are quittin' 46 00:01:56,529 --> 00:01:58,863 and regular customers are staying away. 47 00:01:58,965 --> 00:02:01,499 The last thing he wants to do is shut the place down, 48 00:02:01,601 --> 00:02:03,000 but if Amy and I can't help, 49 00:02:03,102 --> 00:02:05,102 that's exactly what he's gonna have to do. 50 00:02:09,141 --> 00:02:11,442 MATT: Before Amy arrives, I clear the area 51 00:02:11,544 --> 00:02:14,478 of anything that might influence her findings. 52 00:02:14,580 --> 00:02:17,882 This is a large space with a lot of artwork and signs 53 00:02:17,984 --> 00:02:19,583 that need to be covered. 54 00:02:19,685 --> 00:02:21,585 When I'm finished, the location'll be ready 55 00:02:21,687 --> 00:02:23,454 for tonight's walk. 56 00:02:33,733 --> 00:02:35,599 AMY: Oh, boy. I don't like this. 57 00:02:35,701 --> 00:02:37,635 So there's a female. 58 00:02:37,737 --> 00:02:41,705 I got... really creeped out by her. 59 00:02:41,807 --> 00:02:44,375 She's almost... 60 00:02:44,477 --> 00:02:47,912 like, a real shadow person, 61 00:02:48,014 --> 00:02:49,813 but she's a dead person. 62 00:02:51,517 --> 00:02:55,219 After she died, she plucked out her eyes 63 00:02:55,321 --> 00:02:59,990 because she didn't wanna see anymore. 64 00:03:00,092 --> 00:03:04,528 She made her face just a skull 65 00:03:04,630 --> 00:03:06,597 so that other dead people, like, 66 00:03:06,699 --> 00:03:09,233 around here and around town 67 00:03:09,335 --> 00:03:10,901 call her "The Reaper." 68 00:03:12,471 --> 00:03:16,006 She definitely makes me very uncomfortable. 69 00:03:16,108 --> 00:03:19,910 She is very angry. She's bent on revenge. 70 00:03:26,886 --> 00:03:28,152 So, Ron, when we spoke on the phone, 71 00:03:28,254 --> 00:03:29,153 you sounded pretty upset 72 00:03:29,255 --> 00:03:30,588 about the things that are happening here. 73 00:03:30,690 --> 00:03:31,922 I mean, what the hell's going on? 74 00:03:32,024 --> 00:03:33,891 I'm hearing things from my employees. 75 00:03:33,993 --> 00:03:36,093 I'm hearing things from my customers. 76 00:03:36,195 --> 00:03:37,695 Something's happening. 77 00:03:37,797 --> 00:03:38,996 I'm not sure what it is, 78 00:03:39,098 --> 00:03:40,931 but whatever it is, I need to get it taken care of 79 00:03:41,033 --> 00:03:43,200 before somebody actually does get hurt. 80 00:03:43,302 --> 00:03:45,869 Okay. Tell me, what... what are things that are going on here? 81 00:03:45,972 --> 00:03:48,205 Well, my customers and employees are telling me 82 00:03:48,307 --> 00:03:52,543 they're hearing noises, they're seeing apparitions. 83 00:03:52,645 --> 00:03:54,612 Things are moving around, 84 00:03:54,714 --> 00:03:58,182 and it's gettin' physical, so... 85 00:03:58,284 --> 00:04:00,284 Sounds like this is all happening to other people. 86 00:04:00,386 --> 00:04:03,287 Actually, I have seen a few things myself. 87 00:04:03,389 --> 00:04:04,788 Okay. Like what? 88 00:04:04,890 --> 00:04:06,056 One of them was, uh, I was... 89 00:04:06,158 --> 00:04:08,192 I was standing at the end of the bar 90 00:04:08,294 --> 00:04:10,761 and just looking down the bar, 91 00:04:10,863 --> 00:04:15,899 and I saw this shot glass go from here to here. 92 00:04:16,002 --> 00:04:18,736 The second thing was by my coffee machine over there, 93 00:04:18,838 --> 00:04:20,137 I had a jar 94 00:04:20,239 --> 00:04:24,274 that literally went over the top of some wine glasses 95 00:04:24,377 --> 00:04:25,809 and just went off on the ground. 96 00:04:25,911 --> 00:04:28,012 Was anybody around to knock it over? 97 00:04:28,114 --> 00:04:29,213 No. 98 00:04:29,315 --> 00:04:31,315 Why don't you just sell it and walk away? 99 00:04:31,417 --> 00:04:33,550 Well, one reason is because my mom 100 00:04:33,653 --> 00:04:35,653 started this place 45 years ago, 101 00:04:35,755 --> 00:04:37,755 and, you know, and I took it over about 5 years ago, 102 00:04:37,857 --> 00:04:40,224 and I wanna keep it going for her. 103 00:04:40,326 --> 00:04:41,492 There's also another reason. 104 00:04:41,594 --> 00:04:44,228 It's kind of like a mainstay in this town. 105 00:04:44,330 --> 00:04:48,332 It's one of the oldest buildings in Paso Robles. 106 00:04:48,434 --> 00:04:50,668 There's a lot of weird things happening around here. 107 00:04:50,770 --> 00:04:52,036 I need some help. 108 00:04:52,138 --> 00:04:54,705 I need to know what it is and I need to get rid of it. 109 00:04:54,807 --> 00:04:56,540 Okay. 110 00:04:58,744 --> 00:05:01,645 It doesn't feel very right. 111 00:05:04,984 --> 00:05:06,850 It doesn't feel right. 112 00:05:06,952 --> 00:05:09,787 The shadow woman is like a hunter. 113 00:05:09,889 --> 00:05:13,223 Her voice sounds like... 114 00:05:13,325 --> 00:05:15,059 death. 115 00:05:15,161 --> 00:05:17,828 Like, if you hear it, like, she's coming for you. 116 00:05:17,930 --> 00:05:20,764 You get that cold down All the way down, 117 00:05:20,866 --> 00:05:24,001 like, from the neck and all the way down. 118 00:05:26,272 --> 00:05:28,839 So she can get physically violent here. 119 00:05:28,941 --> 00:05:32,209 I know, too, she definitely follows somebody 120 00:05:32,311 --> 00:05:34,812 and has, uh, tried to, uh, 121 00:05:34,914 --> 00:05:37,948 harm them, uh, in their homes 122 00:05:38,050 --> 00:05:40,050 on several occasions. 123 00:05:44,657 --> 00:05:45,989 So why'd you bring me in here? 124 00:05:46,092 --> 00:05:48,792 Well, I've had many reports of things happening in here. 125 00:05:48,894 --> 00:05:51,061 Okay. Did you ever see any of this stuff? 126 00:05:51,163 --> 00:05:55,766 No, I never did, so I decided I'd stick some cameras in here. 127 00:05:55,868 --> 00:05:57,234 All right. Did you catch anything? 128 00:05:57,336 --> 00:05:59,069 I did. 129 00:06:00,973 --> 00:06:05,042 I had a couple cases of beer just went off the stack 130 00:06:05,144 --> 00:06:09,313 right after I left the room, and they fell. 131 00:06:09,415 --> 00:06:11,048 We're in California. You sure it wasn't an earthquake? 132 00:06:11,150 --> 00:06:12,816 Yeah, I'm sure because if it was an earthquake, 133 00:06:12,918 --> 00:06:14,752 half of my storeroom would've been on the floor. 134 00:06:14,854 --> 00:06:17,521 And I can't figure out how the hell this... 135 00:06:17,623 --> 00:06:18,856 This could be dangerous. 136 00:06:18,958 --> 00:06:20,524 Oh, yes. Oh, yes. 137 00:06:20,626 --> 00:06:21,859 Anything else going on in this room? 138 00:06:21,961 --> 00:06:23,594 I had an employee workin' back here in the bar, 139 00:06:23,696 --> 00:06:26,196 and she was looking over in that corner. 140 00:06:26,298 --> 00:06:27,931 There was about an 8, 10-inch knife 141 00:06:28,033 --> 00:06:30,634 laying on a tray, and the knife just went... 142 00:06:30,736 --> 00:06:32,402 [Makes whoosh sound] Like that. 143 00:06:32,505 --> 00:06:34,204 And it missed her by... 144 00:06:34,306 --> 00:06:35,439 It could've been worse, 145 00:06:35,541 --> 00:06:37,608 and we just lucked out on that one, I think. 146 00:06:37,710 --> 00:06:39,943 Yeah. She could've gotten seriously hurt. 147 00:06:42,014 --> 00:06:44,414 The shadow woman, she's physically capable 148 00:06:44,517 --> 00:06:45,816 of hurting people. 149 00:06:45,918 --> 00:06:48,285 - How? - She runs around with a knife. 150 00:06:51,624 --> 00:06:53,390 Maybe they feel sharp pains or something. 151 00:06:53,492 --> 00:06:55,459 I don't know. 152 00:06:55,561 --> 00:06:58,529 She also attacked people in their throat area. 153 00:06:58,631 --> 00:07:01,732 She's so creepy. She's so [bleep] creepy. 154 00:07:01,834 --> 00:07:05,569 And she's, like, really freaking the [bleep] out. 155 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,474 Ow. 156 00:07:10,576 --> 00:07:11,975 She's hurtin' me. 157 00:07:12,077 --> 00:07:14,044 Ay. She's hurtin' me. 158 00:07:20,519 --> 00:07:22,352 So, Ron, what's the story with the second floor here? 159 00:07:22,454 --> 00:07:24,254 The history is it used to be a brothel, 160 00:07:24,356 --> 00:07:26,056 but I use it strictly now for my customers 161 00:07:26,158 --> 00:07:29,560 as a place to rest when they've had too much to drink. 162 00:07:29,662 --> 00:07:31,161 All right. So is anything going on up here? 163 00:07:31,263 --> 00:07:32,362 Some people have told me 164 00:07:32,464 --> 00:07:34,965 about somebody was hanging from the ceiling. 165 00:07:35,067 --> 00:07:38,902 All right. So, how did they describe this thing to you? 166 00:07:39,004 --> 00:07:41,505 They told me that they saw something hanging 167 00:07:41,607 --> 00:07:43,340 or like they were holding on to the ceiling. 168 00:07:43,442 --> 00:07:44,741 And they... they... they described him 169 00:07:44,844 --> 00:07:46,844 as like a mannequin or like a person. 170 00:07:46,946 --> 00:07:48,212 Okay. Anything else? 171 00:07:48,314 --> 00:07:50,013 I had a couple from down South. 172 00:07:50,115 --> 00:07:52,783 When they came back down, I noticed the lady was, 173 00:07:52,885 --> 00:07:55,219 like, 5, 6 shades lighter. 174 00:07:55,321 --> 00:07:56,320 And I was like, "What the heck?" 175 00:07:56,422 --> 00:07:57,554 I said, "What'd you guys do up there?" 176 00:07:57,656 --> 00:07:59,289 And the wife, 177 00:07:59,391 --> 00:08:01,024 just out of nowhere, said, "It grabbed my butt. 178 00:08:01,126 --> 00:08:02,860 It grabbed my butt," and that's all she could say, was, 179 00:08:02,962 --> 00:08:04,628 "It grabbed my butt." 180 00:08:04,730 --> 00:08:06,864 I have a camera that's up here in the corner. 181 00:08:06,966 --> 00:08:08,432 Well, I thought, Okay, let me check and see 182 00:08:08,534 --> 00:08:13,036 if it's in that camera, and by golly, I found something. 183 00:08:13,138 --> 00:08:15,239 I did keep the video of that one. 184 00:08:19,812 --> 00:08:21,445 Wow. Something touched her 185 00:08:21,547 --> 00:08:24,348 because you can tell by her reaction that's not acting. 186 00:08:27,386 --> 00:08:29,653 You know, most of the time, I get photos, 187 00:08:29,755 --> 00:08:31,822 and I look at them with a... 188 00:08:31,924 --> 00:08:34,191 You know, like, "Hey, any photo can be doctored." 189 00:08:34,293 --> 00:08:35,626 Right. Right. 190 00:08:35,728 --> 00:08:39,529 But unless you got some tech guy that can fix video like this, 191 00:08:39,632 --> 00:08:41,598 this is some pretty compelling evidence you got. 192 00:08:41,700 --> 00:08:43,467 - Yes. - If Amy suggested 193 00:08:43,569 --> 00:08:45,302 that you should leave, how would you take that? 194 00:08:45,404 --> 00:08:46,570 It'd be pretty tough. 195 00:08:46,672 --> 00:08:50,073 This has been in my family for 45 years. 196 00:08:50,175 --> 00:08:53,543 I don't wanna get rid of it, and I will do whatever it takes. 197 00:08:53,646 --> 00:08:54,978 Okay. 198 00:08:57,116 --> 00:09:01,285 The shadow woman, she's also able to jump people, 199 00:09:01,387 --> 00:09:04,221 living people who are sensitives. 200 00:09:11,263 --> 00:09:13,463 The shadow woman is up here. 201 00:09:16,302 --> 00:09:18,168 She kind of goes in between 202 00:09:18,270 --> 00:09:21,305 where the ceiling and the walls meet, 203 00:09:21,407 --> 00:09:22,906 and then she'll spread herself out, 204 00:09:23,008 --> 00:09:25,642 and she can put her face and her arms down. 205 00:09:28,213 --> 00:09:32,182 I feel like this is a very, very, very bad thing. 206 00:09:32,284 --> 00:09:33,383 Like, I feel panicked. 207 00:09:33,485 --> 00:09:35,419 [Exhales deeply] 208 00:09:57,861 --> 00:09:58,926 So, Kim, I was talking to Ron. 209 00:09:59,028 --> 00:10:01,195 He said you worked here, but you recently left. 210 00:10:01,297 --> 00:10:03,364 Yes, I did. Okay. How long did you work here? 211 00:10:03,466 --> 00:10:04,799 Uh, almost 7 years. 212 00:10:04,901 --> 00:10:07,268 Why'd you leave? I'm curious. 213 00:10:07,370 --> 00:10:12,607 I think the paranormal activity is becoming more, um, 214 00:10:12,709 --> 00:10:15,476 direct, more violent. 215 00:10:15,578 --> 00:10:18,846 For my safety, uh, I had to go. 216 00:10:18,948 --> 00:10:20,381 So now Ron mentioned to me about, uh, 217 00:10:20,483 --> 00:10:22,917 customers havin' experiences up here. 218 00:10:23,019 --> 00:10:25,753 Now have they told you the same thing? 219 00:10:25,855 --> 00:10:27,054 Yes, many, many times. 220 00:10:27,156 --> 00:10:30,291 I have customers that refuse to come back up here. 221 00:10:30,393 --> 00:10:32,793 There are customers that have been so scared 222 00:10:32,896 --> 00:10:35,229 that they will not return to the saloon. 223 00:10:35,331 --> 00:10:38,266 Okay. So what have you seen or experienced? 224 00:10:38,368 --> 00:10:40,101 Anything that you can tell me about? 225 00:10:40,203 --> 00:10:42,370 Uh, yes. We have a vacuum upstairs 226 00:10:42,472 --> 00:10:46,073 that was moving up here in the hallway, 227 00:10:46,175 --> 00:10:50,111 but the electrical cord was wrapped all the way around. 228 00:10:50,213 --> 00:10:52,980 It was moving freely, as if somebody was vacuuming. 229 00:10:53,082 --> 00:10:54,348 So you didn't see anybody holding it. 230 00:10:54,450 --> 00:10:55,716 There was nobody holding it. 231 00:10:55,818 --> 00:10:57,518 There was nobody up here. 232 00:10:57,620 --> 00:10:58,819 That scared me. 233 00:10:58,922 --> 00:11:00,788 That convinced me. 234 00:11:00,890 --> 00:11:02,089 Okay. Anything else? 235 00:11:02,191 --> 00:11:05,993 There is a presence that you feel 236 00:11:06,095 --> 00:11:08,229 when you come into this place. 237 00:11:08,331 --> 00:11:10,364 You always feel like you're being watched. 238 00:11:10,466 --> 00:11:12,133 I won't stay up here. 239 00:11:12,235 --> 00:11:13,434 By doing that, 240 00:11:13,536 --> 00:11:15,569 I'm challenging or welcoming something to happen to me. 241 00:11:15,672 --> 00:11:17,772 Are you feeling any of that now? 242 00:11:17,874 --> 00:11:19,240 I feel like we're being watched. 243 00:11:19,342 --> 00:11:20,308 - You do? - Yes. 244 00:11:20,410 --> 00:11:22,610 There is an energy in this building. 245 00:11:22,712 --> 00:11:25,446 By coming up here, I become a target. 246 00:11:25,548 --> 00:11:27,315 Okay. 247 00:11:29,152 --> 00:11:32,820 There's, like, somebody saying, "I know you. You know me." 248 00:11:32,922 --> 00:11:37,358 "I know you. You know me." "I know you. You know me." 249 00:11:37,460 --> 00:11:39,060 And this is a dead person. 250 00:11:39,162 --> 00:11:41,262 He's like, "I know you. We've met." 251 00:11:41,364 --> 00:11:42,830 Yeah, I don't like him. I don't like him. 252 00:11:42,932 --> 00:11:44,732 There's something wrong. 253 00:11:44,834 --> 00:11:46,534 I'm feeling pain right here... 254 00:11:46,636 --> 00:11:48,636 [Inhales sharply] and right into my throat. 255 00:11:48,738 --> 00:11:50,371 It feels like I'm being stabbed. 256 00:11:53,209 --> 00:11:55,710 My leg... I feel like I'm being stabbed there. 257 00:11:55,812 --> 00:11:58,312 Who is this person? I don't know. 258 00:11:58,414 --> 00:12:01,515 He's crazy, totally insane. 259 00:12:01,617 --> 00:12:05,186 [Grunts] I don't like this. Uh, I feel threatened. 260 00:12:05,288 --> 00:12:09,590 I fe... I don't feel safe at all with this person. 261 00:12:09,692 --> 00:12:13,294 He thinks, like, I'm... like I'm ratting on him or something. 262 00:12:13,396 --> 00:12:16,197 I'm thinking that he can probably do a lot of bad things, 263 00:12:16,299 --> 00:12:18,499 like, really, really [bleep] bad things. 264 00:12:18,601 --> 00:12:19,767 Like, I feel like... like... like he would 265 00:12:19,869 --> 00:12:21,369 hunt me down and kill me. 266 00:12:21,471 --> 00:12:23,337 He's totally crazy. 267 00:12:23,439 --> 00:12:26,007 Oh, my God, like, totally [bleep] out there. 268 00:12:29,379 --> 00:12:31,112 After meeting with Kim, I started talking 269 00:12:31,214 --> 00:12:34,515 to other employees and customers of the Pine Street Saloon... 270 00:12:34,617 --> 00:12:36,384 I witnessed, 271 00:12:36,486 --> 00:12:38,386 for the first time in my life, 272 00:12:38,488 --> 00:12:40,354 a full apparition. 273 00:12:40,456 --> 00:12:42,456 I even verbalized to my friends, 274 00:12:42,558 --> 00:12:44,692 "Are my eyes deceiving me right now?" 275 00:12:44,794 --> 00:12:46,694 ...and everyone... and I mean everyone, 276 00:12:46,796 --> 00:12:48,162 had experiences to share. 277 00:12:48,264 --> 00:12:49,764 All right. So, you heard footsteps. 278 00:12:49,866 --> 00:12:51,165 Mm-hmm. -What else is going on? 279 00:12:51,267 --> 00:12:52,933 Objects, you know, being thrown. 280 00:12:53,036 --> 00:12:54,635 That's a little strange. 281 00:12:54,737 --> 00:12:57,004 Once I noticed the activity here, 282 00:12:57,106 --> 00:13:00,975 things started happening at my own home as well. 283 00:13:01,077 --> 00:13:02,610 With all the stories I'm hearing, 284 00:13:02,712 --> 00:13:04,512 I'm surprised Ron's still in business. 285 00:13:04,614 --> 00:13:06,747 The mirror up there just, like, psh. 286 00:13:06,849 --> 00:13:08,115 Like, if I would've been sitting there, 287 00:13:08,217 --> 00:13:09,550 my face would've been cut up. 288 00:13:09,652 --> 00:13:11,419 And I went, "What the hell?" 289 00:13:11,521 --> 00:13:13,287 One night, I was sitting on the bed 290 00:13:13,389 --> 00:13:15,723 when I looked up and seen somebody goin' into the room. 291 00:13:15,825 --> 00:13:17,058 So what you saw was an apparition? 292 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,260 Yes. He... he was a little creepy, you know? 293 00:13:19,362 --> 00:13:20,928 I even looked away, and when I looked back, 294 00:13:21,030 --> 00:13:23,097 he was still looking at me. 295 00:13:23,199 --> 00:13:24,398 There's something here. 296 00:13:24,500 --> 00:13:27,068 There's definitely... There's something here. 297 00:13:30,039 --> 00:13:36,143 I feel like the man knows everything. 298 00:13:36,245 --> 00:13:39,580 He can, like, hurt you 299 00:13:39,682 --> 00:13:42,516 and, like, control you, 300 00:13:42,618 --> 00:13:45,853 and you can't escape from him. 301 00:13:45,955 --> 00:13:47,188 You can't hide. 302 00:13:47,290 --> 00:13:49,490 Like, he just owns you. 303 00:13:51,227 --> 00:13:54,195 He can mess with your mind. 304 00:13:54,297 --> 00:13:56,664 You feel like you need to run, you need to get out of here. 305 00:13:58,668 --> 00:14:00,768 You would feel frightened. 306 00:14:00,870 --> 00:14:04,939 You would feel panicked, uh, scared. 307 00:14:05,041 --> 00:14:07,708 He's gonna find you and he's gonna get you. 308 00:14:07,810 --> 00:14:12,446 He can manipulate them and brainwash them. 309 00:14:14,617 --> 00:14:17,118 People would have nervous breakdowns. 310 00:14:17,220 --> 00:14:19,520 They would be very sick. 311 00:14:19,622 --> 00:14:24,024 They would have a lot of physical attacks on them. 312 00:14:27,663 --> 00:14:29,663 Living don't stand a chance here. 313 00:14:29,765 --> 00:14:32,199 Just, they don't [bleep] stand a chance. 314 00:14:45,735 --> 00:14:47,368 So the minute I get to a location, 315 00:14:47,470 --> 00:14:50,571 I reach out to journalists, local cops, genealogists, 316 00:14:50,674 --> 00:14:53,141 anybody that can help me with my case. 317 00:14:53,243 --> 00:14:55,109 I just got a call back from a local reporter 318 00:14:55,211 --> 00:14:57,178 who says the original owner of the property 319 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,648 has a story so colorful it should be made into a movie. 320 00:15:07,857 --> 00:15:09,590 So, Peggy, I appreciate you helping me with this. 321 00:15:09,693 --> 00:15:10,758 Uh, but let me ask you. 322 00:15:10,860 --> 00:15:12,026 Why'd you bring me all the way up here? 323 00:15:12,128 --> 00:15:14,495 Well, this is a winery now, but this property 324 00:15:14,597 --> 00:15:17,131 was actually owned originally by the Blackburns 325 00:15:17,233 --> 00:15:19,000 that had the property that you are investigating. 326 00:15:19,102 --> 00:15:21,970 It was two brothers, James and Daniel. 327 00:15:22,072 --> 00:15:24,706 When did they get here, and how much property did they have? 328 00:15:24,808 --> 00:15:29,210 1857, they bought 26,000 acres of what became Paso Robles. 329 00:15:29,312 --> 00:15:31,179 And they split it evenly between the two of them, 330 00:15:31,281 --> 00:15:33,281 13,000 acres each. 331 00:15:33,383 --> 00:15:35,783 Daniel went ahead and took the portion 332 00:15:35,885 --> 00:15:39,053 that actually is now the, um, Pine Street Saloon. 333 00:15:39,155 --> 00:15:40,722 Okay. So what do we know about him? 334 00:15:40,824 --> 00:15:43,224 Daniel was kind of the dominant brother. 335 00:15:43,326 --> 00:15:47,061 He was a very ambitious man and he was a clever man. 336 00:15:47,163 --> 00:15:48,396 And to protect his property, 337 00:15:48,498 --> 00:15:50,999 he had himself appointed sheriff. 338 00:15:51,101 --> 00:15:54,702 He actually even had a vigilante group that he directed. 339 00:15:54,804 --> 00:15:58,039 They had 200 deputies that were charged primarily 340 00:15:58,141 --> 00:16:02,310 with removing Native Americans and Mexicans from the property. 341 00:16:02,412 --> 00:16:03,644 And very sadly, 342 00:16:03,747 --> 00:16:06,681 a lot of people were killed by this vigilante group. 343 00:16:06,783 --> 00:16:08,049 Now, Peggy, you said this guy Daniel had 344 00:16:08,151 --> 00:16:09,484 a pretty rough time with things while he was here. 345 00:16:09,586 --> 00:16:11,319 Yes, he did. Uh, he... 346 00:16:11,421 --> 00:16:13,888 he had married a woman named Cecelia Dunn, 347 00:16:13,990 --> 00:16:16,391 and this is her later in life, of course. 348 00:16:16,493 --> 00:16:18,026 And they had three children. 349 00:16:18,128 --> 00:16:19,894 And in 1871, 350 00:16:19,996 --> 00:16:22,163 she was in a carriage with the three children, 351 00:16:22,265 --> 00:16:24,432 and something spooked the horse, 352 00:16:24,534 --> 00:16:26,734 and, uh, their 1-year-old daughter Jenny 353 00:16:26,836 --> 00:16:29,270 was thrown out of the carriage. 354 00:16:29,372 --> 00:16:31,806 A soapbox flew out of the carriage 355 00:16:31,908 --> 00:16:33,474 and struck her in the head... -Ah. 356 00:16:33,576 --> 00:16:35,076 And it killed her instantly. 357 00:16:35,178 --> 00:16:36,444 This was a 1-year-old? -Yes. 358 00:16:36,546 --> 00:16:38,312 That's pretty tragic, especially the way it happened. 359 00:16:38,415 --> 00:16:39,480 Yes. 360 00:16:39,582 --> 00:16:40,648 All right, so, Peggy, when did they get around 361 00:16:40,750 --> 00:16:42,050 to building the saloon I'm investigating? 362 00:16:42,152 --> 00:16:44,986 They built it approximately in the mid-1880s. 363 00:16:45,088 --> 00:16:46,788 So what happened after that? 364 00:16:46,890 --> 00:16:48,523 Around the mid-1890s, 365 00:16:48,625 --> 00:16:50,892 Daniel Blackburn's health started to fail, 366 00:16:50,994 --> 00:16:54,729 and he passed away in 1901. 367 00:16:54,831 --> 00:16:55,930 Even in his death, 368 00:16:56,032 --> 00:16:58,366 there were legal problems over the property. 369 00:16:58,468 --> 00:17:01,069 - And what happened? - Daniel's widow, Cecelia, 370 00:17:01,171 --> 00:17:02,570 had been left all the property, 371 00:17:02,672 --> 00:17:05,506 but he didn't leave anything to the two sons. 372 00:17:05,608 --> 00:17:07,275 And, uh, within a year or so, 373 00:17:07,377 --> 00:17:10,878 the two sons turned around and sued their own mother. 374 00:17:10,980 --> 00:17:12,413 Now according to this article, 375 00:17:12,515 --> 00:17:15,650 Daniel Blackburn actually was mentally incompetent. 376 00:17:15,752 --> 00:17:16,984 That's what the court found. 377 00:17:17,087 --> 00:17:19,487 They did win the lawsuit, 378 00:17:19,589 --> 00:17:22,557 and that was the end of the saga of the Blackburns. 379 00:17:28,231 --> 00:17:31,399 The creepy guy is really dangerous. 380 00:17:31,501 --> 00:17:34,869 Like, he feels, like, ownership. 381 00:17:34,971 --> 00:17:36,604 I was seeing... 382 00:17:36,706 --> 00:17:41,442 something actually about a horse accident, 383 00:17:41,544 --> 00:17:44,579 and it killed the rider. 384 00:17:44,681 --> 00:17:50,284 I feel like this man was a killer. 385 00:17:54,224 --> 00:17:56,257 There's victims around him. 386 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,593 There's victims. Like, I feel like... 387 00:17:58,695 --> 00:18:01,496 like this man is, like, unhinged. 388 00:18:01,598 --> 00:18:06,334 He can hurt you and, like, control you. 389 00:18:07,537 --> 00:18:10,505 It's so scary. 390 00:18:10,607 --> 00:18:13,374 There's something about a code of silence. 391 00:18:16,412 --> 00:18:18,813 You can't hide. You can't escape from him. 392 00:18:21,284 --> 00:18:23,518 Like, he just owns you. 393 00:18:23,620 --> 00:18:28,156 394 00:18:28,258 --> 00:18:30,324 So Ron mentioned the upstairs area of this hotel 395 00:18:30,426 --> 00:18:31,893 used to be a brothel. 396 00:18:31,995 --> 00:18:34,061 Turns out it's true. 397 00:18:34,164 --> 00:18:36,063 I'm on my way to meet with a local crime writer 398 00:18:36,166 --> 00:18:39,233 who says the conditions were absolutely horrible. 399 00:18:46,042 --> 00:18:47,675 So, Skye, thanks for helping me out with the case. 400 00:18:47,777 --> 00:18:48,876 I appreciate that. 401 00:18:48,978 --> 00:18:50,378 We can assume then that Ron's right 402 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,214 and upstairs might've been a boarding house or a brothel. 403 00:18:53,316 --> 00:18:55,950 Yes. It was kind of widely known, um, 404 00:18:56,052 --> 00:18:58,085 that a lot of the bars had these sort of operations 405 00:18:58,188 --> 00:18:59,253 that were happening upstairs. 406 00:18:59,355 --> 00:19:01,022 Um, they were called boarding houses. 407 00:19:01,124 --> 00:19:03,291 That was the code word, the kind of cover word. 408 00:19:03,393 --> 00:19:06,127 They would operate above bars like Pine Street. 409 00:19:06,229 --> 00:19:08,629 Okay, so when would this have been going on? 410 00:19:08,731 --> 00:19:11,265 It started in, like, the late 1800s, uh, 411 00:19:11,367 --> 00:19:13,000 and then into the 21st century. 412 00:19:13,102 --> 00:19:16,137 There was a real boom, uh, with the prostitution trade, 413 00:19:16,239 --> 00:19:17,471 uh, around World War I 414 00:19:17,574 --> 00:19:20,608 because there was a large influx of military personnel. 415 00:19:20,710 --> 00:19:22,443 Now I did a lot of cases with these brothels, 416 00:19:22,545 --> 00:19:24,111 and I know the conditions were horrible. 417 00:19:24,214 --> 00:19:25,546 Did that happen here? 418 00:19:25,648 --> 00:19:29,016 The conditions were terrible, a lot of drugs and drinking. 419 00:19:29,118 --> 00:19:31,219 And a lot of times, they would abuse the women, 420 00:19:31,321 --> 00:19:32,353 uh, beat the women. 421 00:19:32,455 --> 00:19:34,555 Uh, then, of course, it was not sanitary. 422 00:19:34,657 --> 00:19:37,325 Uh, they didn't have access to good medical care, 423 00:19:37,427 --> 00:19:40,094 so a lot of times, these women would get pregnant 424 00:19:40,196 --> 00:19:43,164 and have to get black market abortions. 425 00:19:47,036 --> 00:19:50,004 There's these people, they seem young. 426 00:19:50,106 --> 00:19:53,107 Like, I'm just seeing, like, people on drugs, 427 00:19:53,209 --> 00:19:56,043 strung out, partying. 428 00:19:58,314 --> 00:20:01,215 Drugs, drugs, drugs. Okay. I feel like I'm on drugs. 429 00:20:03,820 --> 00:20:06,220 There's also, like, a lot of sex going on, 430 00:20:06,322 --> 00:20:07,855 like, a lot of sex. 431 00:20:07,957 --> 00:20:11,058 It's, like, so thick and bad. 432 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,794 [Whispers] It's so bad. 433 00:20:13,896 --> 00:20:16,564 [Normal voice] They're bad people. 434 00:20:16,666 --> 00:20:18,065 I don't like it. 435 00:20:18,167 --> 00:20:20,034 I don't know how anybody could, like, for 1 minute, 436 00:20:20,136 --> 00:20:21,602 be up here and be okay. 437 00:20:23,439 --> 00:20:24,572 All right, so these girls 438 00:20:24,674 --> 00:20:25,940 that had to get these illegal abortions, 439 00:20:26,042 --> 00:20:27,608 was there a doctor in town they went to? 440 00:20:27,710 --> 00:20:29,810 Well, actually, there was a gentleman named, 441 00:20:29,912 --> 00:20:32,647 uh, Christian Thomas who was a bartender 442 00:20:32,749 --> 00:20:36,917 who moonlighted as, uh, an illegal abortionist. 443 00:20:37,020 --> 00:20:38,085 What? 444 00:20:38,187 --> 00:20:40,154 So I actually have a photo of Thomas. 445 00:20:40,256 --> 00:20:41,689 That's him there. 446 00:20:41,791 --> 00:20:44,692 He actually worked in a place called Lyle's Cocktail Lounge 447 00:20:44,794 --> 00:20:46,861 about 300 yards away from Pine Street. 448 00:20:46,963 --> 00:20:49,597 All right. So where'd this guy do these abortions? 449 00:20:49,699 --> 00:20:52,266 He would bring his clients back to his apartment, uh, 450 00:20:52,368 --> 00:20:53,801 which was right around the corner. 451 00:20:53,903 --> 00:20:55,603 We actually have a picture of it as well. 452 00:20:55,705 --> 00:20:58,439 So that was the room where he would do the procedures. 453 00:20:58,541 --> 00:21:00,574 So this is where these poor girls were going. 454 00:21:00,677 --> 00:21:02,476 Do we have any idea how many he performed? 455 00:21:02,578 --> 00:21:03,844 He admitted to 12. 456 00:21:03,946 --> 00:21:07,281 Okay, you said he admitted to doing 12 abortions. 457 00:21:07,383 --> 00:21:09,717 So what happened? Did he get caught? 458 00:21:09,819 --> 00:21:12,186 In, uh... So September 1, 1953, uh, 459 00:21:12,288 --> 00:21:16,324 he had a client, um, that he botched the procedure, 460 00:21:16,426 --> 00:21:17,658 and she ended up dying. 461 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,094 Okay. So what do we know about the victim? 462 00:21:20,196 --> 00:21:21,595 Her name was Virginia Grider. 463 00:21:21,698 --> 00:21:24,398 Uh, this is a picture of her. She was 30 years old. 464 00:21:24,500 --> 00:21:26,267 She was actually from San Francisco. 465 00:21:26,369 --> 00:21:28,035 Does he go to jail? What's the story? 466 00:21:28,137 --> 00:21:29,804 Thomas was arrested, uh, 467 00:21:29,906 --> 00:21:32,673 and later found guilty of second degree murder. 468 00:21:35,511 --> 00:21:37,211 She's still out here. 469 00:21:37,313 --> 00:21:38,612 Who? 470 00:21:38,715 --> 00:21:40,281 The shadow woman. 471 00:21:40,383 --> 00:21:42,516 No one helped her. 472 00:21:42,618 --> 00:21:47,955 She feels like she was, like, a younger person when she died. 473 00:21:48,057 --> 00:21:51,692 But she's from the '20s or '30s. 474 00:21:51,794 --> 00:21:55,062 And I did keep seeing a knife, 475 00:21:55,164 --> 00:21:57,631 so I don't know if she was stabbed by a knife. 476 00:21:57,734 --> 00:21:59,767 She says, "I was not a whore," 477 00:21:59,869 --> 00:22:01,802 but I think she was murdered. 478 00:22:01,904 --> 00:22:04,171 Very disturbing. 479 00:22:09,278 --> 00:22:10,678 If you need us to investigate 480 00:22:10,780 --> 00:22:12,580 unexplained activity in your home, 481 00:22:12,682 --> 00:22:15,449 go to the "Dead Files" page at travelchannel.com. 482 00:22:15,551 --> 00:22:17,284 Click on "Help me, Dead Files!" to submit your story, 483 00:22:17,387 --> 00:22:18,552 and we'll help if we can. 484 00:22:25,991 --> 00:22:28,892 So far I know Ron's bar was home to a brothel, 485 00:22:28,994 --> 00:22:31,328 and his property used to be owned by a ruthless sheriff 486 00:22:31,430 --> 00:22:34,731 who was behind several vigilante murders. 487 00:22:34,833 --> 00:22:36,967 But I need to see if there's anything more. 488 00:22:38,370 --> 00:22:39,970 Searching through old records, 489 00:22:40,072 --> 00:22:42,439 I find a man named William Crawford. 490 00:22:42,541 --> 00:22:44,407 Turns out, he was found dead 491 00:22:44,509 --> 00:22:46,576 right outside the Pine Street Saloon. 492 00:22:48,780 --> 00:22:50,513 I'm on my way to meet with a local lieutenant 493 00:22:50,616 --> 00:22:53,149 who says this case was truly bizarre. 494 00:22:58,490 --> 00:23:00,890 So what can you tell me about William Crawford's case? 495 00:23:00,993 --> 00:23:04,628 July 4, 1947, he was dead on the doorstep, 496 00:23:04,730 --> 00:23:08,465 uh, on the back porch actually, uh, of... of the hotel. 497 00:23:08,567 --> 00:23:09,466 What were the circumstances? 498 00:23:09,568 --> 00:23:11,835 Mr. Crawford was a 60-year-old ranch hand 499 00:23:11,937 --> 00:23:13,670 that was living in an upstairs room, 500 00:23:13,772 --> 00:23:15,438 and he'd been drinking all night long. 501 00:23:15,540 --> 00:23:17,273 So he was found by some of the dishwashers 502 00:23:17,376 --> 00:23:19,943 that were working at the hotel the next morning. 503 00:23:20,045 --> 00:23:21,244 They thought he was passed out, 504 00:23:21,346 --> 00:23:23,246 so they called the police to come and investigate. 505 00:23:23,348 --> 00:23:24,848 - Okay. - So when they got there, 506 00:23:24,950 --> 00:23:27,384 what they found was that he was actually dead. 507 00:23:27,486 --> 00:23:29,719 He died from an injury to the back of his head. 508 00:23:29,821 --> 00:23:31,588 All right, so what do we think happened with this guy? 509 00:23:31,690 --> 00:23:33,456 So we think he got locked out of his room. 510 00:23:33,558 --> 00:23:38,328 He was drunk the night before, ended up on the back porch, 511 00:23:38,430 --> 00:23:39,663 tried to climb up, 512 00:23:39,765 --> 00:23:42,098 probably slipped off the ladder, and injured himself. 513 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,502 They ultimately did the, uh, the coroner's investigation 514 00:23:45,604 --> 00:23:47,637 that he had a, uh, fractured skull 515 00:23:47,739 --> 00:23:49,005 on the back of his head, 516 00:23:49,107 --> 00:23:50,740 and he died of a brain hemorrhage. 517 00:23:59,384 --> 00:24:03,353 [Stairs creaking] 518 00:24:03,455 --> 00:24:05,889 Ew. 519 00:24:05,991 --> 00:24:07,357 Like, some guy, 520 00:24:07,459 --> 00:24:10,760 like, rolling around on the floor crawls up to me. 521 00:24:10,862 --> 00:24:13,797 He thinks he's still alive. 522 00:24:13,899 --> 00:24:15,532 Can you see who this is? 523 00:24:15,634 --> 00:24:17,567 Mm. 524 00:24:21,807 --> 00:24:23,473 Did this guy jump you? 525 00:24:23,575 --> 00:24:25,275 Yes... 526 00:24:27,913 --> 00:24:29,345 I can't even think straight, 527 00:24:29,448 --> 00:24:33,383 Like... so messed up my head. 528 00:24:34,619 --> 00:24:38,855 I feel like... I feel very confused. 529 00:24:38,957 --> 00:24:41,491 I feel like I'm drunk. 530 00:24:41,593 --> 00:24:44,227 I have this weird... 531 00:24:44,329 --> 00:24:46,763 very weird taste in my mouth. 532 00:24:46,865 --> 00:24:48,298 [Whispers] My teeth hurt. 533 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,468 [Normal voice] Somebody broke their teeth. 534 00:24:51,570 --> 00:24:53,403 My head, my head. 535 00:24:53,505 --> 00:24:56,339 My neck hurts. My neck hurts. Mm. 536 00:24:56,441 --> 00:24:58,374 I see, like, blood on my hands. 537 00:25:00,278 --> 00:25:04,581 I feel like I'm yelling or screaming inside, 538 00:25:04,683 --> 00:25:06,983 and then there's blood everywhere. 539 00:25:07,085 --> 00:25:08,985 Seems like he wants help. 540 00:25:14,025 --> 00:25:15,925 Is he making you move like that? 541 00:25:16,027 --> 00:25:19,829 He can make you move, like a doll. 542 00:25:19,931 --> 00:25:23,299 Do you know if this is something he does to others? 543 00:25:23,401 --> 00:25:24,901 Uh, yes. 544 00:25:25,003 --> 00:25:27,370 Is this something that could be dangerous to the living? 545 00:25:27,472 --> 00:25:29,139 Mm. Yeah. 546 00:25:29,241 --> 00:25:32,008 Like, you could have, like, a heart attack, I think. 547 00:25:33,378 --> 00:25:34,878 All right, I gotta get out of here. 548 00:25:34,980 --> 00:25:36,279 Okay. 549 00:25:36,381 --> 00:25:39,382 Getting out of here. I'm going now. I'm leaving. 550 00:25:46,525 --> 00:25:49,092 I saw several dead people during my walk, 551 00:25:49,194 --> 00:25:51,161 but the shadow woman who can jump people 552 00:25:51,263 --> 00:25:53,396 concerns me the most. 553 00:25:53,498 --> 00:25:59,269 She's spread out over the entire... ceiling, 554 00:25:59,371 --> 00:26:02,438 but her face is just a skull. 555 00:26:02,541 --> 00:26:05,875 Her arms are coming down, 556 00:26:05,977 --> 00:26:10,013 and they're coming for my throat. 557 00:26:14,853 --> 00:26:17,053 Amy, is this what you saw? 558 00:26:17,155 --> 00:26:18,755 Yes. 559 00:26:37,981 --> 00:26:40,749 STEVE: Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 560 00:26:40,851 --> 00:26:42,150 we're ready to reveal our findings 561 00:26:42,252 --> 00:26:45,720 to each other and our clients for the first time. 562 00:26:45,822 --> 00:26:47,555 So, Amy, I want you to meet Ron. 563 00:26:47,657 --> 00:26:49,724 He's owned this place for the last 5 years. 564 00:26:49,826 --> 00:26:51,025 The activity is so bad here 565 00:26:51,128 --> 00:26:54,162 that he's having a hard time keeping employees, 566 00:26:54,264 --> 00:26:55,663 Kim being one of 'em. 567 00:26:55,766 --> 00:26:56,898 She quit a few months ago 568 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,500 because she thought she was in danger. 569 00:26:58,602 --> 00:26:59,934 Mm-hmm. 570 00:27:00,036 --> 00:27:02,403 Ron doesn't even know if it's safe for anybody to be here, 571 00:27:02,506 --> 00:27:05,206 but he's determined to keep the doors open for one reason... 572 00:27:05,308 --> 00:27:06,374 his mom. 573 00:27:06,476 --> 00:27:08,376 She ran this place for 40 years, 574 00:27:08,478 --> 00:27:12,347 and Ron is not gonna let the paranormal ruin her legacy. 575 00:27:12,449 --> 00:27:15,650 So now that Amy knows a little bit about what's happening here, 576 00:27:15,752 --> 00:27:18,653 I'm gonna have her describe her walk for us. 577 00:27:18,755 --> 00:27:23,324 There's three deceased individuals here 578 00:27:23,426 --> 00:27:26,361 that I'm most concerned about. 579 00:27:26,463 --> 00:27:30,298 The first individual was a woman 580 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,835 that I met when I was out back. 581 00:27:33,937 --> 00:27:36,404 And the thing that unsettled me about her 582 00:27:36,506 --> 00:27:40,475 was that she looks so much 583 00:27:40,577 --> 00:27:44,345 like a real shadow person. 584 00:27:44,447 --> 00:27:47,215 It was extremely unnerving for me. 585 00:27:47,317 --> 00:27:49,918 And after she died, she said to me 586 00:27:50,020 --> 00:27:51,586 that she didn't wanna see anymore, 587 00:27:51,688 --> 00:27:54,889 so she actually plucked her eyes out, 588 00:27:54,991 --> 00:27:57,892 and then her face became a skull. 589 00:28:00,497 --> 00:28:04,098 I-I do feel like she could be dangerous, um, 590 00:28:04,201 --> 00:28:05,900 to the living here. 591 00:28:06,002 --> 00:28:07,368 She goes after necks, 592 00:28:07,470 --> 00:28:10,205 like, grabbing people and poking at their throats. 593 00:28:10,307 --> 00:28:11,806 She's very disturbed. 594 00:28:11,908 --> 00:28:14,876 She carries a-a knife with her. 595 00:28:17,214 --> 00:28:19,747 I think she wants to kill people with the knife. 596 00:28:22,485 --> 00:28:25,854 I had a experience with one of my employees in my back bar. 597 00:28:25,956 --> 00:28:28,356 She was looking over this way, 598 00:28:28,458 --> 00:28:31,292 and the knife was on the other side, 599 00:28:31,394 --> 00:28:33,828 and then it just went off the shelf. 600 00:28:33,930 --> 00:28:37,065 And so she turns around and looks and looks at it 601 00:28:37,167 --> 00:28:38,933 for about a minute and just takes off running. 602 00:28:39,035 --> 00:28:41,002 - Wow. - Yeah. 603 00:28:41,104 --> 00:28:43,271 Now Ron here is a skeptic... -Mm-hmm. 604 00:28:43,373 --> 00:28:44,639 ...because he doesn't have many experiences 605 00:28:44,741 --> 00:28:46,507 except for the couple things he's seen. 606 00:28:46,610 --> 00:28:49,444 But you got so many complaints from customers and employees, 607 00:28:49,546 --> 00:28:52,513 you decided to put in cameras. 608 00:28:52,616 --> 00:28:54,616 I gotta show you something that's pretty compelling. 609 00:28:54,718 --> 00:28:58,586 There's a backroom here where they keep, um, stock. 610 00:28:58,688 --> 00:29:00,455 There's Ron. 611 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,027 Wow. 612 00:29:06,129 --> 00:29:07,262 I thought maybe with the weight, you know, 613 00:29:07,364 --> 00:29:08,663 top heavy and all this other stuff, 614 00:29:08,765 --> 00:29:10,531 but it wasn't. 615 00:29:13,303 --> 00:29:15,770 Oh, my God. 616 00:29:15,872 --> 00:29:17,839 So is this woman responsible for all the stuff 617 00:29:17,941 --> 00:29:19,340 that's moving around down here? 618 00:29:19,442 --> 00:29:20,708 Yes. 619 00:29:20,810 --> 00:29:23,311 So is it possible that knife thing might've been her? 620 00:29:23,413 --> 00:29:25,680 Oh, yeah. I would think if... Yeah. 621 00:29:25,782 --> 00:29:29,250 I mean, she's all about the knife, so... Yeah. 622 00:29:29,352 --> 00:29:32,687 I did have a sketch done of her, 623 00:29:32,789 --> 00:29:34,622 and it's from the point of view of someone 624 00:29:34,724 --> 00:29:37,625 seeing her hanging from the ceiling. 625 00:29:37,727 --> 00:29:38,826 What? 626 00:29:38,929 --> 00:29:40,995 - [Chuckles] - Hold on a second. 627 00:29:45,068 --> 00:29:47,101 Oh. 628 00:29:47,203 --> 00:29:49,103 Wait till you see this. 629 00:29:49,205 --> 00:29:51,306 - Wow. - Wow. 630 00:29:58,315 --> 00:29:59,714 Wow. 631 00:29:59,816 --> 00:30:01,416 Eyes are creepy. 632 00:30:01,518 --> 00:30:02,684 RON: About 4, 5 years ago, 633 00:30:02,786 --> 00:30:05,353 rooms 2 and 3 had two people in each room. 634 00:30:05,455 --> 00:30:06,721 I asked them how their stay was, 635 00:30:06,823 --> 00:30:08,089 and they said, "Yeah, everything was great, 636 00:30:08,191 --> 00:30:10,491 except we saw this mannequin hanging from the ceiling." 637 00:30:10,593 --> 00:30:12,860 Oh, [bleep]. 638 00:30:12,963 --> 00:30:14,595 - Can I flip this? - You can flip that. 639 00:30:14,698 --> 00:30:16,297 It just creeps me out. 640 00:30:16,399 --> 00:30:18,666 Yeah. 641 00:30:18,768 --> 00:30:20,969 Any clue about her in life? 642 00:30:21,071 --> 00:30:24,739 I got that she died young. 643 00:30:24,841 --> 00:30:28,810 I think she died in the '20s or '30s. 644 00:30:28,912 --> 00:30:31,012 I wasn't certain if she killed herself 645 00:30:31,114 --> 00:30:33,047 or if she was murdered. 646 00:30:33,149 --> 00:30:34,582 But I saw her holding a knife, 647 00:30:34,684 --> 00:30:37,251 so I think she might've been killed with one. 648 00:30:37,354 --> 00:30:40,788 She kept saying that she's not a whore, 649 00:30:40,890 --> 00:30:42,824 nobody cared about her, nobody helped her, 650 00:30:42,926 --> 00:30:46,060 and that she's angry and she wants revenge. 651 00:30:46,162 --> 00:30:47,362 So she's got a knife. 652 00:30:47,464 --> 00:30:49,697 She died young and she told you, "I'm not a whore." 653 00:30:49,799 --> 00:30:50,865 Yeah. 654 00:30:50,967 --> 00:30:52,600 I mean, this could be a long shot. 655 00:30:52,702 --> 00:30:55,903 There was a guy named Christian "Tommy" Thomas, 656 00:30:56,006 --> 00:30:57,405 uh, who was a bartender 657 00:30:57,507 --> 00:31:00,141 that performed illegal abortions right here in town 658 00:31:00,243 --> 00:31:02,110 from the '30s to the '50s. 659 00:31:02,212 --> 00:31:03,978 Actually got a photo of him. He's pretty... 660 00:31:05,815 --> 00:31:07,548 - KIM: Oh, God. - Ew. 661 00:31:07,650 --> 00:31:09,717 - That's creepy. - Really? 662 00:31:11,521 --> 00:31:13,888 Now I got a photo here of his apartment 663 00:31:13,990 --> 00:31:16,491 where he actually did these abortions. 664 00:31:16,593 --> 00:31:18,793 As you can see, it's the most unsanitary-looking place 665 00:31:18,895 --> 00:31:21,929 you can find. -Oh, my. 666 00:31:22,032 --> 00:31:24,899 Now, of course, abortions were illegal back then, 667 00:31:25,001 --> 00:31:28,236 and he, um, was the only game in town. 668 00:31:28,338 --> 00:31:31,806 On September 1, 1953, a woman named Virginia Grider 669 00:31:31,908 --> 00:31:35,209 came to Paso Robles looking for Thomas. 670 00:31:35,311 --> 00:31:36,344 This is her. 671 00:31:36,446 --> 00:31:37,745 She was from the Bay Area, 672 00:31:37,847 --> 00:31:40,114 and her husband drove her down here to do it. 673 00:31:40,216 --> 00:31:43,117 But the abortion was botched... 674 00:31:43,219 --> 00:31:44,919 - Mm. - And she died. 675 00:31:45,021 --> 00:31:47,288 - Wow. - Thomas was arrested. 676 00:31:47,390 --> 00:31:48,656 He plead guilty. 677 00:31:48,758 --> 00:31:52,960 He had a sentence of 5 years to life, and he did 5 years. 678 00:31:53,063 --> 00:31:54,796 Sad. 679 00:32:00,503 --> 00:32:02,036 STEVE: Okay, so what else? 680 00:32:02,138 --> 00:32:04,739 I ended up in the attic, 681 00:32:04,841 --> 00:32:09,043 and I had a very negative experience up there with a male. 682 00:32:09,145 --> 00:32:10,978 I didn't even understand what was happening, 683 00:32:11,081 --> 00:32:13,014 but he just got me good. 684 00:32:13,116 --> 00:32:18,186 He jumped me, which means he literally went into my body. 685 00:32:18,288 --> 00:32:20,755 And I think that he's extremely good at... 686 00:32:20,857 --> 00:32:23,524 at doing this, which makes me nervous 687 00:32:23,626 --> 00:32:28,863 because I think that he could affect living people. 688 00:32:28,965 --> 00:32:32,733 He can make you move, like a doll. 689 00:32:35,972 --> 00:32:37,271 I can't even think straight. 690 00:32:37,373 --> 00:32:41,275 Like... so messed up my head. 691 00:32:43,746 --> 00:32:47,515 Somebody could have a heart attack. 692 00:32:47,617 --> 00:32:50,118 Any idea who this guy might've been that jumped you? 693 00:32:50,220 --> 00:32:51,285 What I was able to get 694 00:32:51,387 --> 00:32:54,555 was that he is stuck in his death state, 695 00:32:54,657 --> 00:32:57,358 which might indicate 696 00:32:57,460 --> 00:33:00,862 that he died suddenly. 697 00:33:00,964 --> 00:33:02,864 I had incredible neck pain, 698 00:33:02,966 --> 00:33:05,666 and then my mouth, my teeth, uh, 699 00:33:05,768 --> 00:33:08,236 in particular, felt very strange. 700 00:33:08,338 --> 00:33:10,738 I felt drunk, confused. 701 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,173 There was blood everywhere, 702 00:33:12,275 --> 00:33:16,010 and I know that he wants help. 703 00:33:16,112 --> 00:33:17,545 He wants out. 704 00:33:17,647 --> 00:33:20,882 Now listen, a lot of people have come through this place, 705 00:33:20,984 --> 00:33:22,316 so it could be anybody. 706 00:33:22,418 --> 00:33:25,153 But when you talk about somebody dying suddenly, 707 00:33:25,255 --> 00:33:28,222 teeth smashed in, drunk, one person comes to mind. 708 00:33:28,324 --> 00:33:30,525 Um, on July 4th, 1947, 709 00:33:30,627 --> 00:33:32,326 there was a 60-year-old farm hand 710 00:33:32,428 --> 00:33:35,763 by the name of William Crawford that was staying upstairs. 711 00:33:35,865 --> 00:33:38,432 He was drinking at the bar. He was hammered. 712 00:33:38,535 --> 00:33:40,835 According to witnesses, left, 713 00:33:40,937 --> 00:33:42,403 tries to get into his room, he's locked out. 714 00:33:42,505 --> 00:33:45,139 And at that time, there was a ladder that went upstairs. 715 00:33:45,241 --> 00:33:47,942 They surmised that he fell trying to get into his room. 716 00:33:48,044 --> 00:33:50,378 He had a fractured skull, teeth caved in, 717 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,079 the whole nine yards. 718 00:33:52,182 --> 00:33:54,515 Now does this sound like the guy who jumped you? 719 00:33:54,617 --> 00:33:56,617 - Yeah. I know it was him. - Okay. 720 00:34:01,057 --> 00:34:02,356 All right, what else? 721 00:34:02,458 --> 00:34:07,461 Okay, so... on the second floor, 722 00:34:07,564 --> 00:34:10,064 the residual energy up there was so strong, 723 00:34:10,166 --> 00:34:12,466 it was physically making me sick. 724 00:34:12,569 --> 00:34:13,768 Wow. 725 00:34:13,870 --> 00:34:16,938 And I don't think that living people would be able 726 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,342 to stay up there for very long and feel comfortable. 727 00:34:21,444 --> 00:34:22,944 I was seeing, uh, 728 00:34:23,046 --> 00:34:25,746 people, like, dancing, singing, drinking, 729 00:34:25,848 --> 00:34:27,081 doing drugs, 730 00:34:27,183 --> 00:34:29,350 uh, some people being strung out. 731 00:34:29,452 --> 00:34:33,054 Um, I saw a lot of, uh, sex happening. 732 00:34:36,226 --> 00:34:37,391 Well, when I spoke with Ron, 733 00:34:37,493 --> 00:34:39,493 he said that there might've been a bordello 734 00:34:39,596 --> 00:34:41,028 or a brothel upstairs. 735 00:34:41,130 --> 00:34:42,930 So I checked it out, and you were right. 736 00:34:43,032 --> 00:34:44,098 - Really? - Really? [Laughs] 737 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:45,700 - Yeah. - AMY: It was a bordello? 738 00:34:45,802 --> 00:34:49,637 From the 1800s all the way up into the 1920s and '30s. 739 00:34:49,739 --> 00:34:51,405 Girls were working here and exposed to drugs, 740 00:34:51,507 --> 00:34:52,740 alcohol, and violence. 741 00:34:52,842 --> 00:34:54,008 - Right. - STEVE: You know... 742 00:34:54,110 --> 00:34:55,643 Wow. 743 00:34:55,745 --> 00:34:58,179 So the thing about the second floor 744 00:34:58,281 --> 00:35:03,484 was that I encountered a male. 745 00:35:03,586 --> 00:35:06,120 And then I felt, like, this deep sadness, 746 00:35:06,222 --> 00:35:09,090 and I felt that he was experiencing a lot of loss. 747 00:35:09,192 --> 00:35:12,326 And this upset him greatly. 748 00:35:12,428 --> 00:35:17,765 I was seeing something actually about a horse accident, 749 00:35:17,867 --> 00:35:20,434 and it killed the rider. 750 00:35:20,536 --> 00:35:21,602 I absolutely think 751 00:35:21,704 --> 00:35:24,405 that this individual is completely insane. 752 00:35:24,507 --> 00:35:27,074 I felt that he had killed people, uh, 753 00:35:27,176 --> 00:35:30,244 and/or had individuals do this for him. 754 00:35:30,346 --> 00:35:31,946 Uh, the thing about this place 755 00:35:32,048 --> 00:35:34,548 is that he feels a sense of ownership. 756 00:35:34,651 --> 00:35:36,584 Like, anywhere this person's ever been, 757 00:35:36,686 --> 00:35:40,054 he feels like he owns that space and time. 758 00:35:40,156 --> 00:35:42,490 So the guy says he feels ownership of the place, 759 00:35:42,592 --> 00:35:44,025 killed people, and had mental problems. 760 00:35:44,127 --> 00:35:45,226 Yeah. 761 00:35:45,328 --> 00:35:48,963 Okay, there is somebody that it could be. 762 00:35:49,065 --> 00:35:50,531 Now his name was Daniel Blackburn. 763 00:35:50,633 --> 00:35:51,799 I got a photo of him. 764 00:35:51,901 --> 00:35:56,103 Um... this is him right here. 765 00:35:56,205 --> 00:35:58,673 Wow. 766 00:35:58,775 --> 00:36:01,575 His eyes are kind of creepy. 767 00:36:01,678 --> 00:36:03,944 Now Daniel was a wealthy investor 768 00:36:04,047 --> 00:36:05,746 who owned 26,000 acres of land here, 769 00:36:05,848 --> 00:36:07,481 including your property. 770 00:36:07,583 --> 00:36:10,718 You said the guy either killed people or had them killed. 771 00:36:10,820 --> 00:36:12,853 Mm-hmm. -So when he came into town, 772 00:36:12,955 --> 00:36:16,290 he formed a vigilante group of about 200 men, 773 00:36:16,392 --> 00:36:19,460 and he basically got rid of all the Mexicans 774 00:36:19,562 --> 00:36:20,895 and all the Native Americans that were here... 775 00:36:20,997 --> 00:36:22,163 - Huh. - And displaced them. 776 00:36:22,265 --> 00:36:23,898 More than likely, he just killed a lot of them. 777 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,032 Wow. 778 00:36:25,134 --> 00:36:27,335 And you said he was upset about a loss. 779 00:36:27,437 --> 00:36:30,237 Blackburn's wife was in a horse and carriage 780 00:36:30,340 --> 00:36:33,040 with their 1-year-old when the baby was 781 00:36:33,142 --> 00:36:36,444 tossed out from the horse, uh, getting spooked, 782 00:36:36,546 --> 00:36:38,446 and the baby died. 783 00:36:38,548 --> 00:36:40,715 Now you said he was mentally unwell. 784 00:36:40,817 --> 00:36:43,117 Check out this article. It's pretty interesting. 785 00:36:45,321 --> 00:36:46,554 After his death, 786 00:36:46,656 --> 00:36:49,190 courts decided that Blackburn was mentally incompetent 787 00:36:49,292 --> 00:36:50,458 at the end of his life, 788 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,462 and, uh, he wasn't of sound mind to make a will. 789 00:36:54,564 --> 00:36:55,863 Now you're the only one that got a look at him. 790 00:36:55,965 --> 00:36:57,565 What do you think? 791 00:36:57,667 --> 00:37:00,568 I'm not sure if it's him or not. 792 00:37:00,670 --> 00:37:03,037 The only thing is... is the eyes. 793 00:37:03,139 --> 00:37:05,239 Like, the eyes, 794 00:37:05,341 --> 00:37:09,977 'cause he had light eyes and he had thick brows. 795 00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:13,547 His energy was extremely terrifying. 796 00:37:13,649 --> 00:37:16,283 I got that he was a telepath. 797 00:37:16,386 --> 00:37:18,819 Telepaths are able to, 798 00:37:18,921 --> 00:37:22,923 uh, really heavily influence people. 799 00:37:23,025 --> 00:37:25,426 You can't escape from him. 800 00:37:25,528 --> 00:37:27,895 You can't hide. 801 00:37:27,997 --> 00:37:29,964 He can mess with your mind. 802 00:37:30,066 --> 00:37:32,800 You feel like you need to run, you need to get out of here. 803 00:37:32,902 --> 00:37:35,369 He's gonna find you and he's gonna get you. 804 00:37:36,806 --> 00:37:40,474 You do feel a sense of panic and anxiety upstairs, uh, 805 00:37:40,576 --> 00:37:43,177 from all of this negative energy. 806 00:37:43,279 --> 00:37:44,512 Everybody said they had the feeling 807 00:37:44,614 --> 00:37:46,814 of being watched up there. -Yes. Yes. 808 00:37:46,916 --> 00:37:51,085 There are some people who will not return up there. 809 00:37:51,187 --> 00:37:52,420 A year, year and a half ago, 810 00:37:52,522 --> 00:37:54,422 I had a couple from out of town that wanted to see 811 00:37:54,524 --> 00:37:56,257 the architecture of the building upstairs. 812 00:37:56,359 --> 00:37:57,491 And when they came back, 813 00:37:57,593 --> 00:37:59,460 the next thing the woman said was, 814 00:37:59,562 --> 00:38:02,096 "It grabbed my butt," and that's all she could say was, 815 00:38:02,198 --> 00:38:03,764 "It grabbed my butt." 816 00:38:03,866 --> 00:38:06,233 And I actually have it on video. 817 00:38:06,335 --> 00:38:07,635 Wow. 818 00:38:07,737 --> 00:38:10,171 Let me show Amy what we're talking about. 819 00:38:10,273 --> 00:38:11,472 So the husband's just, like, you know, 820 00:38:11,574 --> 00:38:12,873 I'm going in first, take a look. 821 00:38:12,975 --> 00:38:13,941 He's not paying attention to her. 822 00:38:14,043 --> 00:38:16,043 And all of a sudden, bam. 823 00:38:18,848 --> 00:38:21,315 - Wow. - Yeah. 824 00:38:21,417 --> 00:38:24,752 My concern would be being influenced 825 00:38:24,854 --> 00:38:26,954 over a long period of time. 826 00:38:27,056 --> 00:38:28,989 You could have nervous breakdowns, 827 00:38:29,091 --> 00:38:30,758 get physically attacked. 828 00:38:30,860 --> 00:38:34,462 Eventually, people could get killed here. 829 00:38:34,564 --> 00:38:36,363 Is there any place safe in this building? 830 00:38:36,466 --> 00:38:39,633 No. No, not right now. 831 00:38:39,735 --> 00:38:42,436 Living don't stand a chance here. 832 00:38:42,538 --> 00:38:46,240 There's something pretty much in every nook and cranny. 833 00:38:46,342 --> 00:38:47,608 Wow. 834 00:38:47,710 --> 00:38:50,311 Wow is right. 835 00:38:50,413 --> 00:38:52,546 I didn't realize there was that much going on. 836 00:38:52,648 --> 00:38:53,881 I mean, I... 837 00:38:53,983 --> 00:38:56,750 I love this bar. 838 00:38:56,853 --> 00:38:59,286 There's something special about this place 839 00:38:59,388 --> 00:39:02,256 and everybody here. 840 00:39:02,358 --> 00:39:05,059 I put my heart and soul in this place, and... and... 841 00:39:05,161 --> 00:39:08,262 the... [bleep] 842 00:39:08,364 --> 00:39:09,530 [Sniffles] 843 00:39:26,972 --> 00:39:28,305 So, Ron, I know you were adamant 844 00:39:28,407 --> 00:39:30,173 about keeping the doors open to honor your mom 845 00:39:30,275 --> 00:39:32,776 and all the hard work she put into this place, 846 00:39:32,878 --> 00:39:35,946 but after hearing what Amy said about what's going on here, 847 00:39:36,048 --> 00:39:38,148 you're lucky nobody's gotten hurt. 848 00:39:38,250 --> 00:39:41,284 But I know you wanna fight this, so I'm gonna turn it over to Amy 849 00:39:41,386 --> 00:39:44,521 to see if there's any way you can make this place safe. 850 00:39:46,558 --> 00:39:50,160 Let me start with the male up in the attic, Mr. Crawford. 851 00:39:50,262 --> 00:39:51,628 He wants help. 852 00:39:51,730 --> 00:39:55,198 He wants help, so you need a medium 853 00:39:55,300 --> 00:39:59,536 who is going to move Mr. Crawford on. 854 00:39:59,638 --> 00:40:02,873 The female... Okay, so I wanna give her a chance. 855 00:40:02,975 --> 00:40:04,541 I wanna give her a fair shot. 856 00:40:04,643 --> 00:40:08,311 So on another day, you have a female medium come, 857 00:40:08,413 --> 00:40:13,183 work some issues out, and then move on. 858 00:40:13,285 --> 00:40:15,285 If she doesn't go, 859 00:40:15,387 --> 00:40:18,655 then I want you to contact a demonologist. 860 00:40:21,660 --> 00:40:24,261 And what the demonologist will do 861 00:40:24,363 --> 00:40:27,697 is basically do an exorcism. 862 00:40:27,799 --> 00:40:29,599 Wow. 863 00:40:29,701 --> 00:40:33,436 Also, you need a Reiki master. 864 00:40:33,539 --> 00:40:35,672 This is very, very important. 865 00:40:35,774 --> 00:40:39,543 This person would come two times per month 866 00:40:39,645 --> 00:40:41,478 for 6 months... -Whoa. 867 00:40:41,580 --> 00:40:44,915 ...to remove all of the residual energy 868 00:40:45,017 --> 00:40:47,851 that has collected upstairs. 869 00:40:47,953 --> 00:40:51,121 And that's... Yeah, that's a beast. 870 00:40:51,223 --> 00:40:52,656 Okay, so let me get this straight. 871 00:40:52,758 --> 00:40:54,691 So if the Reiki master comes in 872 00:40:54,793 --> 00:40:57,827 and is able to get rid of all that residual stuff... Yes. 873 00:40:57,930 --> 00:41:00,764 ...the creepy guy will go along with it. Yes. 874 00:41:00,866 --> 00:41:01,865 - Oh. - Yes. 875 00:41:01,967 --> 00:41:04,167 It'll be very quiet here. 876 00:41:04,269 --> 00:41:07,103 [Exhales] 877 00:41:07,206 --> 00:41:08,238 Yeah. -Sorry. 878 00:41:08,340 --> 00:41:10,173 STEVE: No, it's okay. 879 00:41:10,275 --> 00:41:11,675 You gotta be relieved. 880 00:41:11,777 --> 00:41:14,010 Yes. Yes. 881 00:41:14,112 --> 00:41:15,779 You gonna take Amy's advice? 882 00:41:15,881 --> 00:41:18,682 - Oh, yeah. - Whatever it takes. Yes. 883 00:41:18,784 --> 00:41:20,016 If they can clear things up here, 884 00:41:20,118 --> 00:41:22,519 would you come back to work? -Yes. 885 00:41:22,621 --> 00:41:24,254 I do it because I love it. 886 00:41:24,356 --> 00:41:27,290 It's an honor to work here 887 00:41:27,392 --> 00:41:29,326 and to serve the people in here. 888 00:41:31,863 --> 00:41:33,330 Ron has a lot of work to do if he wants 889 00:41:33,432 --> 00:41:36,966 to keep his employees and guests out of harm's way, 890 00:41:36,991 --> 00:41:40,480 But with the help of a medium and a Reiki master the dead will move on. 891 00:41:40,505 --> 00:41:42,983 And Ron will be able to keep this restaurant 892 00:41:43,009 --> 00:41:45,156 in his family for generations to come. 893 00:41:45,206 --> 00:41:49,756 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 67146

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