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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,291 --> 00:00:11,924 AMY: They're just messing with her... 2 00:00:11,930 --> 00:00:14,018 touching her and manhandling her. 3 00:00:14,122 --> 00:00:16,856 I've seen... we call it the shadow man. 4 00:00:16,864 --> 00:00:20,766 He definitely pushes the living away. 5 00:00:20,777 --> 00:00:24,846 I've got a bone-chilling fear for the safety of our kids. 6 00:00:24,856 --> 00:00:29,392 This room is bad, bad. 7 00:00:29,404 --> 00:00:32,671 I feel like there's evil in here. 8 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,399 Why the [bleep] is he torturing this girl? 9 00:00:37,630 --> 00:00:40,164 Something bad's going to happen. 10 00:00:40,171 --> 00:00:42,805 My name is Amy Allan. 11 00:00:42,813 --> 00:00:44,112 There's panic. 12 00:00:44,117 --> 00:00:45,550 And it's almost like a butchering. 13 00:00:45,555 --> 00:00:46,620 I see dead people. 14 00:00:46,624 --> 00:00:48,758 They all died horribly. 15 00:00:48,765 --> 00:00:50,465 I speak to dead people. 16 00:00:50,470 --> 00:00:51,869 Get out of here. 17 00:00:51,874 --> 00:00:53,507 And they speak to me. 18 00:00:53,513 --> 00:00:55,546 Vicious. 19 00:00:55,552 --> 00:00:58,687 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 20 00:00:58,696 --> 00:01:00,395 It doesn't matter where you are. I'll find you. 21 00:01:00,401 --> 00:01:01,968 I rely on my partner. 22 00:01:01,973 --> 00:01:03,606 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 23 00:01:03,612 --> 00:01:05,512 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 24 00:01:05,518 --> 00:01:07,217 This guy's a real piece of work. 25 00:01:07,222 --> 00:01:10,891 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 26 00:01:10,901 --> 00:01:12,400 I feel like I live in a house of Hell. 27 00:01:12,406 --> 00:01:13,572 It's my job to reveal them. 28 00:01:13,576 --> 00:01:15,843 This is not good. 29 00:01:15,850 --> 00:01:17,583 But Steve and I never speak... 30 00:01:17,589 --> 00:01:19,622 We never communicate during an investigation. 31 00:01:19,628 --> 00:01:21,395 Until the very end... 32 00:01:21,401 --> 00:01:22,867 I want my life back. 33 00:01:22,872 --> 00:01:25,072 When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 34 00:01:25,079 --> 00:01:26,879 - Is he trying to kill her? - [Sobs] 35 00:01:26,885 --> 00:01:28,151 Or time to get out. 36 00:01:28,155 --> 00:01:29,654 Oh, my God. 37 00:01:29,660 --> 00:01:31,360 This is going to kill us. 38 00:01:32,626 --> 00:01:36,755 - Sync and corrected by TheDelta - - www.addic7ed.com - 39 00:01:45,345 --> 00:01:47,745 I'm down here in Macon, Georgia. 40 00:01:47,753 --> 00:01:50,387 Amy and I got called in by a guy named Jeff. 41 00:01:50,394 --> 00:01:52,061 He says his entire family's being terrorized 42 00:01:52,067 --> 00:01:53,916 by activity in the house, 43 00:01:53,922 --> 00:01:56,173 but he's most concerned about his youngest daughter, 44 00:01:56,180 --> 00:01:58,880 who's being physically attacked and can barely sleep at night. 45 00:01:58,887 --> 00:02:01,655 Now, he's a man of faith, and he tried prayer, 46 00:02:01,663 --> 00:02:03,796 but it seems to be getting worse. 47 00:02:03,803 --> 00:02:06,838 He told me we were his last hope. 48 00:02:11,511 --> 00:02:13,027 MATTHEW: Before Amy arrives, 49 00:02:13,032 --> 00:02:15,800 I look for anything that can influence her findings. 50 00:02:15,808 --> 00:02:17,608 Family photos and other personal items 51 00:02:17,614 --> 00:02:20,148 need to be covered or removed. 52 00:02:20,155 --> 00:02:21,521 When I'm finished, 53 00:02:21,526 --> 00:02:23,926 the location will be ready for tonight's walk. 54 00:02:35,536 --> 00:02:39,104 AMY: Coming up, my body wanted to run... 55 00:02:39,114 --> 00:02:44,401 like an instinct, you know, when you're being hunted. 56 00:02:44,414 --> 00:02:50,201 I definitely get that there's a lot of chaos 57 00:02:50,216 --> 00:02:52,650 going on around here. 58 00:02:55,366 --> 00:02:58,300 It's extremely distracting. 59 00:02:58,308 --> 00:03:04,245 I feel extremely ill... really bad... and very painful. 60 00:03:04,260 --> 00:03:06,027 It's bad. 61 00:03:12,620 --> 00:03:13,952 STEVE: When we spoke on the phone, 62 00:03:13,957 --> 00:03:15,590 it sounded like you were at your wits' end. 63 00:03:15,595 --> 00:03:18,563 Last couple of years, it's been hell to live here. 64 00:03:18,572 --> 00:03:20,305 What are you and your family going through? 65 00:03:20,310 --> 00:03:22,477 We're talking about anywhere 66 00:03:22,484 --> 00:03:25,151 from footsteps to shadow figures... 67 00:03:25,159 --> 00:03:26,292 Okay. 68 00:03:26,296 --> 00:03:28,830 To hitting, scratching. 69 00:03:28,838 --> 00:03:30,704 Who all lives in the house? 70 00:03:30,710 --> 00:03:36,114 It's myself, my wife, Tami, Jessica, my child, 71 00:03:36,127 --> 00:03:38,527 and my son, Hunter. 72 00:03:38,535 --> 00:03:39,701 You mentioned that you were really concerned 73 00:03:39,705 --> 00:03:40,704 about your youngest daughter. 74 00:03:40,708 --> 00:03:41,924 Correct. 75 00:03:41,929 --> 00:03:44,546 We've just always been real protective of her, 76 00:03:44,554 --> 00:03:48,322 and she seems to be the one that mostly gets attacked. 77 00:03:48,332 --> 00:03:52,435 And, of course, she's coming downstairs to us, crying. 78 00:03:52,446 --> 00:03:55,847 There's no way for me to protect her. 79 00:03:55,856 --> 00:03:59,307 All you can do is hold her and tell her it'll be all right, 80 00:03:59,316 --> 00:04:00,799 although you don't know. 81 00:04:00,805 --> 00:04:02,205 That would drive me crazy. 82 00:04:02,210 --> 00:04:03,375 It hurts. 83 00:04:03,379 --> 00:04:04,378 The house looks pretty new. 84 00:04:04,382 --> 00:04:05,448 How long have you guys been here? 85 00:04:05,453 --> 00:04:07,336 We've been here 23 years... '91. 86 00:04:07,342 --> 00:04:08,592 We built the house. 87 00:04:08,596 --> 00:04:11,096 Did you guys have experiences from the beginning? 88 00:04:11,104 --> 00:04:12,504 Just mischievous stuff... 89 00:04:12,509 --> 00:04:16,077 nothing alarming, nothing frightening. 90 00:04:16,086 --> 00:04:17,352 Okay, so why are you calling us now? 91 00:04:17,357 --> 00:04:21,659 About a year and a half ago, it started getting ugly. 92 00:04:21,670 --> 00:04:23,553 Have you guys tried anything 93 00:04:23,559 --> 00:04:25,943 to try to stop what's happening here? 94 00:04:25,951 --> 00:04:29,686 A lot of prayer, a lot of shared prayer. 95 00:04:29,696 --> 00:04:31,229 Nothing's helped. 96 00:04:31,234 --> 00:04:35,319 I can't physically protect my family. 97 00:04:35,330 --> 00:04:36,880 I need help. 98 00:04:41,283 --> 00:04:43,399 So, there's this older man here. 99 00:04:43,405 --> 00:04:45,606 He's talking about two bedrooms... 100 00:04:45,613 --> 00:04:47,980 two bedrooms that are important here. 101 00:04:47,987 --> 00:04:51,738 There's a male and a female in these two rooms 102 00:04:51,748 --> 00:04:54,082 that are having the problems. 103 00:04:57,182 --> 00:05:00,684 But then there's this other guy who's, like, younger. 104 00:05:00,693 --> 00:05:06,397 The younger guy is accusing him of being abusive. 105 00:05:10,758 --> 00:05:13,092 There's a relationship there. 106 00:05:13,099 --> 00:05:17,034 I'm thinking father/son or grandfather/grandson. 107 00:05:17,044 --> 00:05:19,278 There's a lot of anger and tension here, 108 00:05:19,285 --> 00:05:21,351 and it's a lot between these two men. 109 00:05:21,358 --> 00:05:23,559 It's completely unhealthy. 110 00:05:23,565 --> 00:05:25,531 It's very, very stressful. 111 00:05:25,538 --> 00:05:27,205 You know, you can really feel it. 112 00:05:32,025 --> 00:05:34,126 So, why'd you bring me into the living room? 113 00:05:34,132 --> 00:05:37,466 This is where most of my stuff has taken place. 114 00:05:37,475 --> 00:05:38,941 Like what? 115 00:05:38,947 --> 00:05:41,631 Me and my son came in the other afternoon. 116 00:05:41,638 --> 00:05:44,256 We were walking through the living room. 117 00:05:44,264 --> 00:05:47,682 The fireplace pokers started doing this, 118 00:05:47,691 --> 00:05:49,307 shaking all about. 119 00:05:49,313 --> 00:05:50,479 Did it stop? 120 00:05:50,483 --> 00:05:51,582 It stopped. 121 00:05:51,587 --> 00:05:53,554 We came back, walked back and forth, 122 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,359 jumped all around in the room. 123 00:05:55,365 --> 00:05:57,566 It doesn't move. 124 00:05:57,573 --> 00:05:58,738 So we didn't do that. 125 00:05:58,742 --> 00:06:00,576 You guys didn't have a violent storm or anything, 126 00:06:00,582 --> 00:06:02,415 with hard thunder, or anything like that? 127 00:06:02,421 --> 00:06:03,787 No, no. 128 00:06:03,792 --> 00:06:05,758 Anything else like that ever happen? 129 00:06:05,764 --> 00:06:08,098 - We came in from church one Sunday... - Okay. 130 00:06:08,105 --> 00:06:10,772 The whole family together. 131 00:06:10,780 --> 00:06:12,847 This sofa's pulled out from the wall. 132 00:06:12,853 --> 00:06:16,288 The other sofa behind me is pulled out from the wall. 133 00:06:16,298 --> 00:06:20,033 The recliner is turned around, facing the window. 134 00:06:20,043 --> 00:06:21,876 And you definitely weren't broken into, 135 00:06:21,882 --> 00:06:23,081 and nothing was breached? 136 00:06:23,085 --> 00:06:24,501 Nothing moved. 137 00:06:24,506 --> 00:06:27,591 Nothing but those three items were moved. 138 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:28,866 Hm. 139 00:06:28,871 --> 00:06:34,141 As far as in here, I'm seeing movement issues. 140 00:06:34,154 --> 00:06:37,455 I am seeing leaving a room, and it's... 141 00:06:37,464 --> 00:06:38,897 something's set up... 142 00:06:38,902 --> 00:06:41,202 say the balls are set up a certain way coming back 143 00:06:41,209 --> 00:06:43,593 and everything's... 144 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,116 scattered. 145 00:06:46,793 --> 00:06:49,761 But I don't know who the [bleep] is doing it. 146 00:06:49,770 --> 00:06:51,069 Nobody's copping to it. 147 00:06:57,828 --> 00:06:59,912 So, Tami, I was talking to your husband, Jeff, 148 00:06:59,919 --> 00:07:01,835 about stuff that's going on in the house. 149 00:07:01,841 --> 00:07:03,641 Curious how you're handling things. 150 00:07:03,647 --> 00:07:05,514 TAMI: You know, it's just day to day. 151 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:10,623 I've got just a bone-chilling fear 152 00:07:10,636 --> 00:07:12,969 for the safety of our kids at this point. 153 00:07:12,976 --> 00:07:15,026 And, Tami, when I talked to Jeff, 154 00:07:15,032 --> 00:07:17,483 he seemed to think that whatever's here's 155 00:07:17,490 --> 00:07:18,823 kind of picking on Jessica. 156 00:07:18,828 --> 00:07:19,877 Is that accurate? 157 00:07:19,881 --> 00:07:21,831 Oh, I would definitely agree with that. 158 00:07:21,838 --> 00:07:23,921 There's a lot more activity with Jessica 159 00:07:23,927 --> 00:07:25,310 that's a lot more physical. 160 00:07:25,315 --> 00:07:26,714 That's got to kill you, as a mom. 161 00:07:26,719 --> 00:07:28,919 It breaks my heart. 162 00:07:28,926 --> 00:07:30,643 You're constantly scared. 163 00:07:30,649 --> 00:07:34,501 You don't know what's gonna happen next to your children. 164 00:07:34,511 --> 00:07:37,145 Now, what about yourself? What about your experiences? 165 00:07:37,153 --> 00:07:38,318 Have you had any? 166 00:07:38,322 --> 00:07:41,023 I was sleeping on my side of the bed one night 167 00:07:41,031 --> 00:07:44,533 and felt someone sit on the side of the bed, 168 00:07:44,543 --> 00:07:47,260 and it was, like, someone heavy. 169 00:07:47,267 --> 00:07:50,752 I mean, you could feel the mattress go down 170 00:07:50,762 --> 00:07:53,613 to the point that it pulled the covers tight 171 00:07:53,621 --> 00:07:55,404 on the bottom part of my leg. 172 00:07:55,410 --> 00:07:56,776 And you're sure it wasn't a dream? 173 00:07:56,781 --> 00:07:58,747 Positive it wasn't a dream. 174 00:07:58,753 --> 00:08:00,653 - Anything else? - Yes. 175 00:08:00,659 --> 00:08:03,594 There is a presence in this corner periodically. 176 00:08:03,602 --> 00:08:06,436 It's always in the corner, by the gun cabinet. 177 00:08:06,445 --> 00:08:09,479 And you immediately know you're being watched. 178 00:08:09,487 --> 00:08:11,254 What do you think this is? 179 00:08:11,260 --> 00:08:13,260 I have no idea, Steve. 180 00:08:13,266 --> 00:08:17,468 All I know is it's dangerous, it's threatening, 181 00:08:17,479 --> 00:08:20,647 and it seems to be getting worse. 182 00:08:22,261 --> 00:08:30,434 This older man is definitely causing people to be afraid. 183 00:08:30,453 --> 00:08:32,053 If they irritate him at all, 184 00:08:32,059 --> 00:08:34,826 he does creepy [bleep] to kind of freak them out. 185 00:08:34,834 --> 00:08:37,168 What does he do to them? 186 00:08:37,175 --> 00:08:39,592 He'll come at night 187 00:08:39,599 --> 00:08:44,552 and, like, move around like a big spider on the floor... 188 00:08:44,565 --> 00:08:45,931 on all fours. 189 00:08:48,911 --> 00:08:53,080 But they're seeing, like, this dark thing, you know, 190 00:08:53,091 --> 00:08:56,226 moving around the floor and the room, 191 00:08:56,235 --> 00:09:00,337 going under the bed, and this freaks people out. 192 00:09:00,347 --> 00:09:03,181 Or stand in the corner and watch people. 193 00:09:04,895 --> 00:09:07,829 It is creepy, and people do see, 194 00:09:07,838 --> 00:09:10,255 like, this black thing in the corner. 195 00:09:10,262 --> 00:09:12,145 Do you know what this old man wants with the living? 196 00:09:13,304 --> 00:09:16,656 He wants to control them 197 00:09:16,666 --> 00:09:19,166 like he controlled the people when he was alive. 198 00:09:40,853 --> 00:09:42,587 STEVE: So, Hunter, I was talking to your parents, 199 00:09:42,592 --> 00:09:43,657 and they were telling me 200 00:09:43,662 --> 00:09:44,895 you're having a pretty tough time here. 201 00:09:44,899 --> 00:09:46,599 HUNTER: Yeah. 202 00:09:46,605 --> 00:09:48,905 I feel very unwanted in the house. 203 00:09:48,912 --> 00:09:50,445 Okay. What are you going through? 204 00:09:52,222 --> 00:09:54,022 I see... we call it the shadow man. 205 00:09:54,028 --> 00:09:57,296 I've seen it, you know, 20-plus times, easy. 206 00:09:57,305 --> 00:09:59,205 And it's most of the time 207 00:09:59,211 --> 00:10:01,845 right in between those windows right there. 208 00:10:01,853 --> 00:10:03,552 Is it possible that it's a shadow 209 00:10:03,557 --> 00:10:05,124 reflected from outside at all? 210 00:10:05,130 --> 00:10:07,764 I keep my blinds down. They're blackout blinds. 211 00:10:07,771 --> 00:10:09,320 You can't see through them. 212 00:10:09,326 --> 00:10:10,559 Really? 213 00:10:10,563 --> 00:10:12,579 I know your sister's going through some stuff. 214 00:10:12,586 --> 00:10:13,619 You and her discuss this. 215 00:10:13,623 --> 00:10:16,007 I try to keep it to myself, honestly. 216 00:10:16,014 --> 00:10:17,563 She's already on edge. 217 00:10:17,568 --> 00:10:22,137 You know, I've had probably up to 10 calls from her... 218 00:10:22,149 --> 00:10:23,315 "Hey, are you in the house?" 219 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:24,586 "No, I'm not even at the house." 220 00:10:24,591 --> 00:10:26,324 She said, "I'm the only one home. 221 00:10:26,329 --> 00:10:27,962 There's somebody in the house." 222 00:10:27,968 --> 00:10:32,454 It's definitely attracted to her, for some reason, 223 00:10:32,465 --> 00:10:34,682 and I don't know why. 224 00:10:37,514 --> 00:10:40,165 AMY: I think the two bedrooms the old man was talking about... 225 00:10:40,173 --> 00:10:42,140 they're upstairs. 226 00:10:43,885 --> 00:10:46,635 Mmm, there's a male here, 227 00:10:46,643 --> 00:10:50,529 and there's some kind of bonding between this person 228 00:10:50,539 --> 00:10:52,172 and the female in the other room. 229 00:10:54,083 --> 00:10:56,134 There's something about the windows. 230 00:10:56,140 --> 00:10:59,024 Uh... I didn't like the windows. 231 00:11:02,510 --> 00:11:04,109 The female... 232 00:11:07,124 --> 00:11:12,127 This room is, like, bad, bad. 233 00:11:23,894 --> 00:11:24,976 STEVE: So, Jessica, I was talking to Mom, Dad, 234 00:11:24,980 --> 00:11:26,313 and your brother, Hunter, 235 00:11:26,318 --> 00:11:30,420 and it seems like whatever's here is kind of targeting you. 236 00:11:30,431 --> 00:11:31,630 Mm-hmm. 237 00:11:31,635 --> 00:11:35,070 Okay, what are some of the things that are happening? 238 00:11:35,079 --> 00:11:38,047 Well, a lot of times, my drawers open by themselves. 239 00:11:38,055 --> 00:11:40,589 They just open, all of them. 240 00:11:43,037 --> 00:11:44,287 They're almost to the point 241 00:11:44,292 --> 00:11:46,258 where they're falling out of the dresser. 242 00:11:46,264 --> 00:11:47,413 - That far out? - Yes. 243 00:11:47,418 --> 00:11:49,585 Is there anything else moving around in the room. 244 00:11:49,591 --> 00:11:51,491 Well, I've actually seen 245 00:11:51,497 --> 00:11:54,264 what I thought was a man in my room. 246 00:11:54,272 --> 00:11:56,573 It was in front of my bed, 247 00:11:56,580 --> 00:11:59,247 and it was actually going through my paperwork 248 00:11:59,255 --> 00:12:00,488 on my table. 249 00:12:00,493 --> 00:12:04,495 I heard the paper shuffling, so that's why I woke up. 250 00:12:04,505 --> 00:12:06,872 I called out to him, and he didn't answer, 251 00:12:06,879 --> 00:12:08,679 so I turned to turn on the light, 252 00:12:08,685 --> 00:12:10,918 and I came back, and the papers were moved. 253 00:12:10,925 --> 00:12:14,293 They were open, when originally they were closed. 254 00:12:14,302 --> 00:12:15,935 Okay. 255 00:12:15,941 --> 00:12:17,407 How are you sleeping at night? 256 00:12:17,412 --> 00:12:21,514 I do have nightmares all the time, and I sleepwalk. 257 00:12:21,525 --> 00:12:23,992 Give me an example of what you're dreaming. 258 00:12:23,999 --> 00:12:25,299 I'd be outside. 259 00:12:25,304 --> 00:12:26,803 The sky was red, 260 00:12:26,808 --> 00:12:30,110 and everything had almost a red tint. 261 00:12:30,119 --> 00:12:31,718 Okay. 262 00:12:31,724 --> 00:12:34,575 People would be dancing. 263 00:12:34,583 --> 00:12:38,602 And then everyone would stop and just turn their head 264 00:12:38,613 --> 00:12:40,012 like they were looking at something. 265 00:12:41,421 --> 00:12:42,654 But then I'd wake up, 266 00:12:42,658 --> 00:12:44,658 so I never saw what they were looking at. 267 00:12:44,665 --> 00:12:47,099 Okay. 268 00:12:49,313 --> 00:12:53,015 This female... she has horrible nightmares, 269 00:12:53,025 --> 00:12:55,492 horrible [bleep] nightmares... 270 00:12:55,499 --> 00:12:58,550 some she remembers, some she doesn't. 271 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,843 Like, I see her waking up outside the house like, 272 00:13:00,849 --> 00:13:02,548 "What the [bleep] What the [bleep]" 273 00:13:02,554 --> 00:13:06,306 But I don't know if these are just nightmares 274 00:13:06,316 --> 00:13:07,932 that she's having. 275 00:13:07,938 --> 00:13:12,274 When she's having these experiences, 276 00:13:12,285 --> 00:13:16,454 I think there's another force here, 277 00:13:16,465 --> 00:13:21,534 and it's causing a lot of physical phenomena. 278 00:13:23,972 --> 00:13:25,054 What the [bleep] 279 00:13:25,059 --> 00:13:27,109 What's going on? 280 00:13:27,115 --> 00:13:29,949 She does see the older man. He watches. 281 00:13:29,957 --> 00:13:32,825 He calls himself "The Watcher" when all the [bleep] going on. 282 00:13:34,722 --> 00:13:36,488 Why the [bleep] is he torturing this girl? 283 00:13:40,457 --> 00:13:41,456 They'll touch me. 284 00:13:41,460 --> 00:13:43,093 I've been doing my hair before, 285 00:13:43,098 --> 00:13:47,050 and it just grabbed it right here and just snatched it. 286 00:13:47,061 --> 00:13:50,396 And they were big fingers, 287 00:13:50,405 --> 00:13:52,455 so I felt like it was more of a man. 288 00:13:52,461 --> 00:13:53,877 Wow. 289 00:13:53,882 --> 00:13:55,382 From that point, it only got worse. 290 00:13:55,388 --> 00:13:59,456 At one point, something actually laid down behind me. 291 00:13:59,466 --> 00:14:02,434 It almost felt like it was spooning. 292 00:14:02,443 --> 00:14:04,943 It had its head, like, on me. 293 00:14:04,950 --> 00:14:06,450 I mean, I was terrified. 294 00:14:06,455 --> 00:14:07,521 I couldn't move. 295 00:14:07,526 --> 00:14:08,691 I couldn't speak. 296 00:14:08,695 --> 00:14:10,028 I couldn't even cry. 297 00:14:10,033 --> 00:14:12,734 And then it finally just got up, and I heard it walk out. 298 00:14:12,742 --> 00:14:16,744 And at that point, I just started crying. 299 00:14:16,755 --> 00:14:18,588 Like, I bawled my eyes out. 300 00:14:18,594 --> 00:14:20,561 Okay. 301 00:14:20,567 --> 00:14:22,900 And I've woken up with scratches. 302 00:14:22,907 --> 00:14:24,157 Okay. 303 00:14:24,162 --> 00:14:25,945 You guys have a cat, right? 304 00:14:25,950 --> 00:14:27,082 Oh, my cat's declawed. 305 00:14:28,274 --> 00:14:30,591 How often is that happening... the scratches? 306 00:14:30,598 --> 00:14:33,065 The scratches only happened like three times. 307 00:14:33,073 --> 00:14:34,205 Only three times? 308 00:14:34,209 --> 00:14:35,525 You hear what you're saying? 309 00:14:35,530 --> 00:14:36,996 I have a daughter 23 years old. 310 00:14:37,001 --> 00:14:39,302 I couldn't imagine her coming to me 311 00:14:39,309 --> 00:14:41,626 and telling me the stuff you're saying. 312 00:14:41,633 --> 00:14:44,000 That would kill me. 313 00:14:44,007 --> 00:14:47,742 I feel like there's evil in here. 314 00:14:47,752 --> 00:14:50,119 I want it to leave. 315 00:14:50,126 --> 00:14:52,159 I want our lives back. 316 00:14:53,621 --> 00:14:54,870 Okay. 317 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:02,884 There's these little, dark things, like children. 318 00:15:02,900 --> 00:15:05,200 They're black. 319 00:15:05,207 --> 00:15:11,478 They're around the bed and touching her feet. 320 00:15:11,493 --> 00:15:12,993 They're climbing on the bed. 321 00:15:12,999 --> 00:15:14,798 They're climbing on her. 322 00:15:14,803 --> 00:15:17,671 They're incapacitating her so she can't move. 323 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,047 She can't yell. She can't do anything. 324 00:15:20,054 --> 00:15:23,756 She's like... [gasps] 325 00:15:23,766 --> 00:15:27,034 Like, the air gets sucked out. 326 00:15:27,043 --> 00:15:30,077 I feel uncomfortable. 327 00:15:30,085 --> 00:15:31,618 Oh [bleep] 328 00:15:31,624 --> 00:15:34,291 I'm getting chills. Okay, I'm freaking out. 329 00:15:47,088 --> 00:15:49,588 When I get to a new town, I put my feelers out 330 00:15:49,595 --> 00:15:51,762 to cops, historians, local professors. 331 00:15:51,769 --> 00:15:53,435 In this case, it paid off. 332 00:15:54,340 --> 00:15:57,175 I'm on my way to meet with a local genealogist 333 00:15:57,184 --> 00:15:59,984 who says all the early owners of Jeff and Tami's property 334 00:15:59,992 --> 00:16:01,158 were slave owners. 335 00:16:01,162 --> 00:16:03,262 Now, I don't know if it's gonna help my case, 336 00:16:03,269 --> 00:16:05,770 but it's something I definitely want to check out. 337 00:16:13,234 --> 00:16:14,877 So, Cecil, you mentioned on the phone 338 00:16:14,981 --> 00:16:16,431 that some of the early owners 339 00:16:16,436 --> 00:16:18,836 of the property I'm investigating had slaves. 340 00:16:18,843 --> 00:16:19,926 CECIL: That's correct. 341 00:16:19,930 --> 00:16:21,179 Okay, what can you tell me about them? 342 00:16:21,184 --> 00:16:23,317 Well, the earliest guy that we have recorded 343 00:16:23,324 --> 00:16:24,390 was named John Martin. 344 00:16:24,394 --> 00:16:26,945 He shows up in 1830 census. 345 00:16:26,953 --> 00:16:30,237 And it shows that he owned 33 slaves. 346 00:16:30,246 --> 00:16:31,245 33? 347 00:16:31,249 --> 00:16:32,382 33. 348 00:16:32,386 --> 00:16:35,971 He was a slave trader for the area of Macon, 349 00:16:35,981 --> 00:16:37,864 as well as he was a farmer. 350 00:16:37,870 --> 00:16:39,552 I guess that would explain why so many. 351 00:16:39,557 --> 00:16:40,790 Yes. 352 00:16:40,794 --> 00:16:42,440 Okay, so, now, how long does he have the property? 353 00:16:42,544 --> 00:16:45,230 Well, we have record that he sold the property 354 00:16:45,336 --> 00:16:48,437 in 1837 to a guy named Alexander Hunt. 355 00:16:48,446 --> 00:16:49,779 Okay, so now he moves there. 356 00:16:49,784 --> 00:16:50,916 Is he a slave owner, too? 357 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,988 The 1850 census right here shows 358 00:16:53,997 --> 00:16:56,931 that Alexander has 38 slaves, 359 00:16:56,939 --> 00:16:59,106 so he has a few more than John Martin did. 360 00:16:59,113 --> 00:17:01,714 Wow. All right, so... 361 00:17:01,721 --> 00:17:04,021 for some reason, this property has an abundance of slaves. 362 00:17:04,028 --> 00:17:05,761 Right. 363 00:17:11,603 --> 00:17:13,119 [Sighs] 364 00:17:13,124 --> 00:17:15,291 Okay, there's another man down here. 365 00:17:15,297 --> 00:17:18,164 He's got issues. 366 00:17:19,644 --> 00:17:23,213 He is very angry. 367 00:17:23,222 --> 00:17:25,122 Probably like six foot. 368 00:17:25,129 --> 00:17:26,461 He's a big guy, 369 00:17:26,465 --> 00:17:30,000 big, round dude... like, chubby and built. 370 00:17:30,010 --> 00:17:37,249 He's, like, sweating, and he's really angry, and hot. 371 00:17:40,844 --> 00:17:42,844 He's very protective of his space. 372 00:17:42,851 --> 00:17:45,518 He doesn't really want anybody else down here. 373 00:17:45,525 --> 00:17:49,227 So he definitely pushes the living away. 374 00:17:49,237 --> 00:17:53,072 People would feel him like a wall, like, 375 00:17:53,083 --> 00:17:56,051 coming up behind them, like, just kind of pushing them out. 376 00:18:00,172 --> 00:18:02,606 The property's then sold to Joshua Harris. 377 00:18:02,613 --> 00:18:05,146 Okay, now, what about him, as far as slaves go? 378 00:18:05,154 --> 00:18:06,854 According to the records, he only has six slaves. 379 00:18:06,859 --> 00:18:08,893 Okay, so how's it go for Joshua? 380 00:18:08,900 --> 00:18:10,616 Everything seems to be going pretty well 381 00:18:10,621 --> 00:18:11,737 until the Civil War comes, 382 00:18:11,742 --> 00:18:13,842 and in 1862, 383 00:18:13,848 --> 00:18:15,581 one of his sons joins the Confederate Army. 384 00:18:15,587 --> 00:18:16,653 His name's James. 385 00:18:16,657 --> 00:18:17,756 Okay. 386 00:18:17,761 --> 00:18:19,510 Do we have any idea how old that kid was? 387 00:18:19,515 --> 00:18:20,665 James was 20. 388 00:18:20,670 --> 00:18:22,036 After he was in, 389 00:18:22,041 --> 00:18:23,507 just north of Atlanta, he was captured, 390 00:18:23,512 --> 00:18:24,744 and he was held prisoner of war. 391 00:18:24,749 --> 00:18:27,600 Joshua Harris had another son 392 00:18:27,608 --> 00:18:29,558 that was just a year younger, named Franklin. 393 00:18:29,564 --> 00:18:30,763 Franklin, I would assume, 394 00:18:30,768 --> 00:18:32,335 did the same thing as his brother. 395 00:18:32,340 --> 00:18:33,739 No, Franklin did not join. 396 00:18:33,744 --> 00:18:35,477 Why not? 397 00:18:35,483 --> 00:18:37,366 I get the impression that his dad encouraged him 398 00:18:37,372 --> 00:18:38,488 and wanted him to, 399 00:18:38,492 --> 00:18:39,825 but you know how sometimes children are... 400 00:18:39,830 --> 00:18:41,212 no matter what you ask them to do, 401 00:18:41,217 --> 00:18:42,333 they do just the opposite. 402 00:18:42,338 --> 00:18:44,672 There's always a rebellious one in the crowd. 403 00:18:44,679 --> 00:18:46,278 So, now, the war ends. 404 00:18:46,283 --> 00:18:48,183 What happens with Joshua and the farm? 405 00:18:48,189 --> 00:18:50,189 Well, Joshua was able to hold onto the property, 406 00:18:50,195 --> 00:18:51,928 whereas many landowners were not able to. 407 00:18:51,934 --> 00:18:54,435 Okay, so does he stay there, or does he move on? 408 00:18:54,443 --> 00:18:58,278 He stays there until he dies in 1895 at the age of 85. 409 00:18:58,288 --> 00:19:00,655 Okay, what happened to his son James? 410 00:19:00,662 --> 00:19:03,029 James is released as a prisoner of war 411 00:19:03,036 --> 00:19:04,669 when the war's over, and he comes back. 412 00:19:04,675 --> 00:19:08,277 What about the son, Franklin, that never went off to war? 413 00:19:08,286 --> 00:19:11,420 Well, sometime after 1895, after his dad's death, 414 00:19:11,429 --> 00:19:14,180 Franklin and two of the sisters leave, 415 00:19:14,188 --> 00:19:17,322 and we find record of them in 1899 in Texas. 416 00:19:17,331 --> 00:19:20,583 Okay, so did Franklin inherit any of the land? 417 00:19:20,592 --> 00:19:23,459 Either he wasn't left any, or maybe he sold his part. 418 00:19:23,467 --> 00:19:25,033 Okay. 419 00:19:27,045 --> 00:19:32,115 I'm seeing the older and younger man again. 420 00:19:32,128 --> 00:19:34,529 And they're fighting. 421 00:19:34,536 --> 00:19:36,769 It's uncomfortable. 422 00:19:36,776 --> 00:19:38,709 That younger guy was saying 423 00:19:38,715 --> 00:19:44,152 that this older man was abusive, physically abusive... 424 00:19:44,165 --> 00:19:46,966 you know, that he was [bleep] torturing the family. 425 00:19:46,975 --> 00:19:49,342 [Man groans] 426 00:19:49,349 --> 00:19:52,217 He ruled with an iron fist. 427 00:19:52,225 --> 00:19:58,128 And I heard words, which was, "father," "landowner," "slave." 428 00:19:58,143 --> 00:20:02,546 The younger man doesn't have anything in common 429 00:20:02,557 --> 00:20:04,523 with this older man. 430 00:20:04,529 --> 00:20:05,729 He doesn't like him. 431 00:20:05,734 --> 00:20:07,467 There's a lot of anger and resentment there. 432 00:20:07,473 --> 00:20:11,842 The older man's perspective to the younger man, 433 00:20:11,853 --> 00:20:16,555 there's a sense of disappointment. 434 00:20:16,567 --> 00:20:19,869 And do you know if they have any kind 435 00:20:19,878 --> 00:20:22,745 of connection to this property? 436 00:20:22,753 --> 00:20:24,186 Definitely the land. 437 00:20:26,014 --> 00:20:28,848 The younger man just kept talking about the land. 438 00:20:28,857 --> 00:20:33,910 He was talking about a massacre, something about a war. 439 00:20:33,922 --> 00:20:38,257 He said that there were a lot of innocent people. 440 00:20:38,269 --> 00:20:41,537 He also said something about murders. 441 00:20:41,546 --> 00:20:44,147 He said the dead weren't respected here. 442 00:20:57,718 --> 00:20:59,818 STEVE: So far, I've got a family being terrorized 443 00:20:59,824 --> 00:21:01,123 by unexplained activity 444 00:21:01,128 --> 00:21:03,708 and a property that was home to dozens of slaves. 445 00:21:05,001 --> 00:21:07,202 But I need to see if there's anything else 446 00:21:07,209 --> 00:21:08,408 that will help my case. 447 00:21:10,686 --> 00:21:12,887 Searching through old records, I find a battle 448 00:21:12,894 --> 00:21:15,344 that broke out between Union and Confederate soldiers 449 00:21:15,351 --> 00:21:17,034 right on my client's property. 450 00:21:20,050 --> 00:21:22,751 Obviously, I need to know more about this fight, 451 00:21:22,758 --> 00:21:25,058 so I reached out to a local Civil War expert 452 00:21:25,065 --> 00:21:26,598 who says it was a bloody battle 453 00:21:26,604 --> 00:21:29,171 and the information will definitely help my case. 454 00:21:36,067 --> 00:21:38,018 STEVE: So, Michael, why'd you want to meet here? 455 00:21:38,122 --> 00:21:41,282 Joshua Harris, who owned your client's property 456 00:21:41,389 --> 00:21:42,855 during the American Civil War... 457 00:21:42,861 --> 00:21:44,261 - Yeah? - is buried right here. 458 00:21:46,339 --> 00:21:49,239 And how close is this spot to my client's property? 459 00:21:49,247 --> 00:21:51,615 Probably 800, 900 yards. 460 00:21:51,622 --> 00:21:52,787 Okay. 461 00:21:52,792 --> 00:21:54,342 Now, you mentioned on the phone 462 00:21:54,347 --> 00:21:55,863 that there was a bloody battle 463 00:21:55,869 --> 00:21:57,602 that took place right on the property. 464 00:21:57,607 --> 00:21:58,806 - Yes. - What happened? 465 00:21:58,811 --> 00:22:01,812 Steve, I'm sure you've heard of Sherman's March. 466 00:22:01,820 --> 00:22:03,286 I have. 467 00:22:03,292 --> 00:22:06,794 Troops moving from Atlanta to Savannah, 468 00:22:06,803 --> 00:22:10,538 wreaking havoc along the way... tearing up rail road tracks, 469 00:22:10,548 --> 00:22:14,000 stealing crops, livestock, burning barns, 470 00:22:14,010 --> 00:22:16,093 things of military value. 471 00:22:16,099 --> 00:22:19,517 And this is a period etching that an artist did 472 00:22:19,526 --> 00:22:22,243 depicting some of that destruction. 473 00:22:22,251 --> 00:22:26,404 The Confederates knew that Sherman was approaching, 474 00:22:26,415 --> 00:22:28,715 so they sent various units out 475 00:22:28,722 --> 00:22:31,172 to establish defensive positions, 476 00:22:31,179 --> 00:22:32,846 one of them right here. 477 00:22:32,852 --> 00:22:35,352 Okay, so what happened? 478 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,760 On November 20, 1864, 479 00:22:37,768 --> 00:22:41,569 Sherman's cavalry came right down this road out here. 480 00:22:41,579 --> 00:22:44,647 The Confederate troops were lying in wait 481 00:22:44,655 --> 00:22:47,122 in the heavily wooded area on each side of the road 482 00:22:47,130 --> 00:22:48,429 on your client's property. 483 00:22:48,434 --> 00:22:49,567 Okay. 484 00:22:49,571 --> 00:22:52,939 And as the first soldiers got close enough, 485 00:22:52,948 --> 00:22:54,781 the Confederates charged. 486 00:22:54,787 --> 00:22:56,120 Okay, so they got attacked and ambushed here. 487 00:22:56,125 --> 00:22:57,324 Yes. 488 00:22:57,329 --> 00:23:00,931 And when the smoke of battle began to dissipate, 489 00:23:00,940 --> 00:23:03,674 seven Confederates lay dead. 490 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,587 What about the Union side... any casualties? 491 00:23:07,595 --> 00:23:10,045 The records do not tell us that information, 492 00:23:10,052 --> 00:23:11,835 but it is certainly possible, 493 00:23:11,841 --> 00:23:16,777 and if we did have dead Federal soldiers here, 494 00:23:16,790 --> 00:23:19,591 most likely, the Confederates would have 495 00:23:19,599 --> 00:23:22,100 interred them in a mass grave. 496 00:23:22,107 --> 00:23:26,709 Steve, I think the real kicker, for Harris in particular... 497 00:23:26,721 --> 00:23:29,722 earlier in 1864, Georgia's governor 498 00:23:29,730 --> 00:23:32,998 had ordered a census statewide. 499 00:23:33,007 --> 00:23:36,342 He wanted to capture the names and locations 500 00:23:36,352 --> 00:23:39,853 of all male citizens eligible to be called up 501 00:23:39,862 --> 00:23:42,446 into the service of the militia. 502 00:23:42,454 --> 00:23:43,704 Okay. 503 00:23:43,708 --> 00:23:47,309 Guess whose name appears on that list. 504 00:23:47,319 --> 00:23:49,052 Our guy, Joshua Harris. 505 00:23:49,058 --> 00:23:50,691 Wow. 506 00:23:50,696 --> 00:23:54,064 So I think there is a very good possibility 507 00:23:54,074 --> 00:23:55,991 he was fighting on his own property. 508 00:23:58,153 --> 00:24:01,688 AMY: I am seeing a lot of activity. 509 00:24:01,698 --> 00:24:06,334 There's a lot of men in both of these directions. 510 00:24:09,589 --> 00:24:11,756 That group is very large. 511 00:24:11,763 --> 00:24:14,831 That one's the big one. 512 00:24:14,839 --> 00:24:16,038 That's a lot of men. 513 00:24:16,043 --> 00:24:18,577 That's, like, you know, war. 514 00:24:20,290 --> 00:24:23,624 Like, I'm definitely feeling, you know, panic and stress, 515 00:24:23,633 --> 00:24:25,467 and, you know, it's loud. 516 00:24:25,473 --> 00:24:30,993 And there's... that's very sneaky. 517 00:24:31,007 --> 00:24:32,706 It was very sneaky. 518 00:24:32,712 --> 00:24:34,095 It was planned. 519 00:24:34,100 --> 00:24:37,001 There was a lot of yelling between them. 520 00:24:37,009 --> 00:24:39,776 I think that they were being hunted, 521 00:24:39,784 --> 00:24:41,818 and that's why they're freaking the [bleep] out 522 00:24:41,824 --> 00:24:43,290 and trying to hide [bleep] 523 00:24:43,296 --> 00:24:46,297 Then I'm getting the [bleep] pain in my head 524 00:24:46,305 --> 00:24:47,905 like a son of a [bleep] 525 00:24:47,910 --> 00:24:50,327 It hurts a lot. 526 00:24:57,105 --> 00:25:00,223 I encountered several dead people during my walk, 527 00:25:00,232 --> 00:25:03,083 but the dark things surrounding a living girl's bed 528 00:25:03,091 --> 00:25:05,258 had me the most concerned. 529 00:25:05,265 --> 00:25:07,632 There was a thing. 530 00:25:07,639 --> 00:25:13,109 It was actually standing to the side of her. 531 00:25:13,123 --> 00:25:17,692 Same body shape as the child. 532 00:25:17,703 --> 00:25:21,505 It had its hand over her mouth, 533 00:25:21,516 --> 00:25:24,601 and the way that the arm and the hand looked 534 00:25:24,609 --> 00:25:26,892 was not normal. 535 00:25:29,140 --> 00:25:30,472 Is this what you saw? 536 00:25:31,597 --> 00:25:33,714 Yes, that's what I saw. 537 00:25:53,580 --> 00:25:56,364 STEVE: Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 538 00:25:56,372 --> 00:25:58,506 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 539 00:25:58,512 --> 00:26:01,246 and our clients for the first time. 540 00:26:01,555 --> 00:26:04,122 Amy, I'd like you to meet two very worried parents, 541 00:26:04,129 --> 00:26:06,329 Jeff and Tami. 542 00:26:06,336 --> 00:26:08,870 Everybody in the house is having experiences, 543 00:26:08,877 --> 00:26:11,878 including their son, Hunter, who I have a picture of here. 544 00:26:12,924 --> 00:26:14,423 AMY: Okay. 545 00:26:14,428 --> 00:26:16,895 Now, the main reason we're here is their daughter, Jessica. 546 00:26:16,903 --> 00:26:19,737 She's going through hell. 547 00:26:19,745 --> 00:26:21,278 And it's killing Jeff and Tami 548 00:26:21,283 --> 00:26:23,350 that they can't do nothing to help her. 549 00:26:23,357 --> 00:26:24,857 And we're their last hope. 550 00:26:25,732 --> 00:26:28,049 So now that Amy knows who you guys are, 551 00:26:28,056 --> 00:26:30,539 I'm gonna have her tell us about her walk. 552 00:26:34,230 --> 00:26:36,180 AMY: So, when I was outside, 553 00:26:36,186 --> 00:26:39,054 the first thing that I saw was a lot of chaos. 554 00:26:39,062 --> 00:26:42,063 There was some kind of big battle. 555 00:26:42,072 --> 00:26:43,605 There was a lot of men. 556 00:26:43,610 --> 00:26:47,011 There was some general who was, like, pacing around. 557 00:26:47,020 --> 00:26:50,188 Something about a massacre, 558 00:26:50,197 --> 00:26:56,468 and I could feel there's so much stress in this area. 559 00:26:56,900 --> 00:26:58,566 STEVE: I think I know what you might have seen. 560 00:26:58,571 --> 00:27:01,022 I wasn't shocked to find that there was gonna be 561 00:27:01,030 --> 00:27:04,531 Civil War activity in this area, 562 00:27:04,540 --> 00:27:06,607 but what I was shocked about is that you had a battle 563 00:27:06,614 --> 00:27:09,098 that took place right on your property. 564 00:27:09,105 --> 00:27:11,939 Now, what happened is in 1864, 565 00:27:11,947 --> 00:27:14,848 General Sherman led the Union Army on a march. 566 00:27:14,856 --> 00:27:16,388 It started it Atlanta, 567 00:27:16,394 --> 00:27:17,827 and he was going through the whole state. 568 00:27:17,832 --> 00:27:20,566 I got an artist's depiction of what happened. 569 00:27:20,574 --> 00:27:23,008 They destroyed everything. 570 00:27:23,015 --> 00:27:25,315 Now, on November 20th of that year, 571 00:27:25,322 --> 00:27:28,490 the Union Army came right across your property here, 572 00:27:28,499 --> 00:27:30,065 where they got ambushed. 573 00:27:30,070 --> 00:27:33,272 But it turned out worse for the Confederate side, 574 00:27:33,281 --> 00:27:35,614 'cause they were badly outgunned. 575 00:27:35,621 --> 00:27:38,088 They wound up killing seven Confederate soldiers 576 00:27:38,095 --> 00:27:39,562 right here on your land. 577 00:27:39,567 --> 00:27:40,666 Wow. 578 00:27:40,671 --> 00:27:42,804 Now, did you guys know about the battle? 579 00:27:42,810 --> 00:27:44,376 - No. - No idea. 580 00:27:44,382 --> 00:27:46,816 We knew there was Civil War activity around here, 581 00:27:46,823 --> 00:27:48,907 but we had no idea a battle took place. 582 00:27:52,910 --> 00:27:54,576 So, what else did you see? 583 00:27:54,582 --> 00:27:59,385 As soon as I walked in, I saw this older male. 584 00:27:59,397 --> 00:28:02,865 He would show himself 585 00:28:02,875 --> 00:28:05,976 dressed in, like, a black cloak and black hat. 586 00:28:05,984 --> 00:28:10,787 He was extremely tall, and he was angry. 587 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,766 The other thing he made known 588 00:28:12,772 --> 00:28:15,707 was that he likes to make people feel fear. 589 00:28:15,715 --> 00:28:19,049 I was actually in the master bedroom, 590 00:28:19,058 --> 00:28:23,060 and he slid into the corner and was watching, 591 00:28:23,071 --> 00:28:25,005 and that's part of his thing, 592 00:28:25,011 --> 00:28:28,846 is he likes to watch people a lot. 593 00:28:29,398 --> 00:28:33,133 I also got him, like, squatting down like a spider 594 00:28:33,143 --> 00:28:38,179 and, like, moving around the floor very quickly. 595 00:28:38,191 --> 00:28:41,326 There's a presence in my room, in the corner, 596 00:28:41,335 --> 00:28:45,270 that I'll wake up and I know immediately I'm being watched, 597 00:28:45,281 --> 00:28:47,948 and it's interesting that you said 598 00:28:47,955 --> 00:28:50,789 about him getting small and towards the floor, 599 00:28:50,798 --> 00:28:53,783 because Jeff and I have recently talked about how 600 00:28:53,791 --> 00:28:55,407 we'll go to get in the bed, 601 00:28:55,412 --> 00:28:56,711 and it's almost like you're a kid 602 00:28:56,716 --> 00:28:58,099 and you're afraid for your feet 603 00:28:58,104 --> 00:28:59,670 to get close to the edge of the bed. 604 00:28:59,676 --> 00:29:00,725 Mm-hmm. 605 00:29:00,729 --> 00:29:02,613 54 years old, I'm a grown man, 606 00:29:02,619 --> 00:29:06,437 and sometimes you feel like a kid running to jump in the bed. 607 00:29:06,447 --> 00:29:07,613 Mm-hmm. 608 00:29:07,618 --> 00:29:08,717 JESSICA: I see the shadow person 609 00:29:08,721 --> 00:29:11,355 usually in the middle of the floor. 610 00:29:11,363 --> 00:29:13,596 It was looking through my papers, like it was nosy. 611 00:29:13,603 --> 00:29:17,789 But Hunter sees him more than I do. 612 00:29:19,889 --> 00:29:22,557 Wow. Okay. 613 00:29:22,565 --> 00:29:24,031 When I look into my brother's eyes, 614 00:29:24,036 --> 00:29:26,269 I can tell he's scared. 615 00:29:26,276 --> 00:29:29,378 I'm supposed to be the protector of my home, 616 00:29:29,387 --> 00:29:31,387 and there's nothing I can do. 617 00:29:36,509 --> 00:29:38,158 STEVE: Any idea who this guy might have been 618 00:29:38,163 --> 00:29:39,279 when he was living? 619 00:29:39,284 --> 00:29:44,888 Most of the information I got about him 620 00:29:44,902 --> 00:29:48,987 was actually through another person... a younger man. 621 00:29:48,998 --> 00:29:52,950 The younger man has a lot of anger and resentment 622 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,028 towards this older man, so I kind of got, like, 623 00:29:56,037 --> 00:29:57,670 there was some kind of family connection here, 624 00:29:57,675 --> 00:30:02,177 whether this was father and son or grandfather and grandson. 625 00:30:02,189 --> 00:30:06,191 The older man, the only thing that came from him 626 00:30:06,202 --> 00:30:08,152 was his disappointment in the younger man, 627 00:30:08,158 --> 00:30:09,574 which the younger man doesn't give a [bleep] about. 628 00:30:09,579 --> 00:30:11,012 He's like, "I don't care." 629 00:30:11,017 --> 00:30:18,956 And I heard three words... "father," "landowner," "slave." 630 00:30:20,714 --> 00:30:22,381 STEVE: One thing you got to know about the property... 631 00:30:22,386 --> 00:30:24,202 the earliest owners all had slaves. 632 00:30:25,764 --> 00:30:27,714 There was three different owners that owned your land 633 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,603 that had slaves before the Civil War broke out. 634 00:30:29,609 --> 00:30:31,325 The last slave owner who lived on the land 635 00:30:31,331 --> 00:30:33,782 was a guy named Joshua Harris, who came here in 1858. 636 00:30:33,789 --> 00:30:36,573 Big reason I'm thinking it's him 637 00:30:36,581 --> 00:30:39,098 is because of the relationship with his son. 638 00:30:39,105 --> 00:30:40,238 This guy, Joshua Harris, 639 00:30:40,243 --> 00:30:41,875 was a big supporter of the Confederacy. 640 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,297 It was where we lived, obviously. 641 00:30:43,302 --> 00:30:44,417 Now, I have a census here 642 00:30:44,422 --> 00:30:47,457 that says he was a reserve militia 643 00:30:47,465 --> 00:30:49,431 for the Confederate army. 644 00:30:49,438 --> 00:30:50,738 This guy was in his mid-'50s, 645 00:30:50,742 --> 00:30:52,775 so that'll give you an idea of how supportive he was. 646 00:30:52,782 --> 00:30:56,550 Now, he had a son named James who was 20, 647 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,027 and he enlisted in the Confederate Army. 648 00:30:58,032 --> 00:31:00,399 Now, he had another son, Franklin, who was 19, 649 00:31:00,406 --> 00:31:02,539 who refused to go off and fight. 650 00:31:02,546 --> 00:31:06,315 Now, the genealogist I spoke to about the Harris family 651 00:31:06,325 --> 00:31:08,091 said that it probably caused a lot of tension 652 00:31:08,097 --> 00:31:09,430 within the family. 653 00:31:09,435 --> 00:31:12,536 That's the only guy I can think of that fits that bill. 654 00:31:13,530 --> 00:31:15,914 Yeah. 655 00:31:15,922 --> 00:31:17,321 Sounds like them. 656 00:31:17,326 --> 00:31:21,145 Now, the thing about this Joshua Harris guy... 657 00:31:21,155 --> 00:31:22,854 he's actually buried right here on the property. 658 00:31:22,859 --> 00:31:24,943 Oh, my God. 659 00:31:24,950 --> 00:31:27,650 You could probably throw a rock how far he is from here. 660 00:31:27,658 --> 00:31:31,160 Wow. Oh, my gosh. 661 00:31:31,169 --> 00:31:32,585 Wow. 662 00:31:32,590 --> 00:31:34,974 We had absolutely no idea he was over there. 663 00:31:40,566 --> 00:31:44,334 AMY: So, when I was talking to the older man, 664 00:31:44,344 --> 00:31:48,230 he showed me that there were two rooms in the house 665 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,558 that were the most active, 666 00:31:51,567 --> 00:31:53,633 and these were two bedrooms, male and a female. 667 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:59,811 And when I walked upstairs, I knew exactly the two bedrooms, 668 00:31:59,826 --> 00:32:02,927 and that this was, in fact, what he showed me. 669 00:32:02,936 --> 00:32:06,938 So I went into the room where the boy was, 670 00:32:06,948 --> 00:32:10,083 and a lot of the chaos in there 671 00:32:10,092 --> 00:32:14,294 was the extreme amount of noise... 672 00:32:14,305 --> 00:32:15,521 movement. 673 00:32:15,526 --> 00:32:18,076 The window's what I got was making the female 674 00:32:18,083 --> 00:32:23,020 in the other room feel, like, sad and isolated, 675 00:32:23,033 --> 00:32:26,367 because the boy had kind of pulled away 676 00:32:26,376 --> 00:32:29,928 from being so close. 677 00:32:32,094 --> 00:32:34,261 STEVE: Is what she's saying making any sense to you? 678 00:32:34,268 --> 00:32:35,567 JESSICA: She's nailing it. 679 00:32:35,572 --> 00:32:38,573 That's exactly how I feel all the time. 680 00:32:38,581 --> 00:32:43,618 It's like he's really distanced himself from everybody. 681 00:32:43,631 --> 00:32:48,934 Well, then I went into the other room, 682 00:32:48,948 --> 00:32:55,319 and what I was seeing was horrible nightmares... 683 00:32:55,334 --> 00:32:57,434 horrible. 684 00:32:57,441 --> 00:33:05,113 And I saw, like, you waking up occasionally in strange places. 685 00:33:05,131 --> 00:33:09,300 STEVE: We talked about that... how you sleepwalk. 686 00:33:09,311 --> 00:33:11,945 Yeah. I know that I woke up in my brother's room before. 687 00:33:11,953 --> 00:33:15,321 Tell Amy about some of those dreams you had. 688 00:33:15,330 --> 00:33:19,032 Well, there were a bunch of people outside. 689 00:33:19,042 --> 00:33:21,042 Everything just had this red... 690 00:33:21,049 --> 00:33:23,082 - Glow? - tint, yes. 691 00:33:23,088 --> 00:33:25,055 And everybody was dancing, 692 00:33:25,061 --> 00:33:29,029 and then they all looked up like they saw somebody, 693 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,175 but when I would look, I would just wake up. 694 00:33:32,183 --> 00:33:33,816 Interesting. 695 00:33:33,822 --> 00:33:35,839 It was very weird. 696 00:33:35,845 --> 00:33:37,578 Hm. 697 00:33:37,584 --> 00:33:42,203 So, what I saw was, during some of these nightmares, 698 00:33:42,215 --> 00:33:45,082 that there was actually phenomena going on... 699 00:33:45,090 --> 00:33:49,610 like, lights flickering, doors opening and closing, 700 00:33:49,622 --> 00:33:52,472 objects moving, things of that nature. 701 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,482 When I was younger, it was just minor stuff, 702 00:33:56,493 --> 00:33:57,659 like drawers pulling out. 703 00:33:57,663 --> 00:33:59,163 I remember that my whole life. 704 00:33:59,168 --> 00:34:01,134 JEFF: Me and Hunter walked through one day, 705 00:34:01,141 --> 00:34:02,774 just a couple of weeks ago, 706 00:34:02,779 --> 00:34:05,347 and the fireplace pokers about fell over. 707 00:34:05,355 --> 00:34:08,222 Okay. 708 00:34:08,230 --> 00:34:12,099 What I was seeing was you were in the bed, 709 00:34:12,109 --> 00:34:18,146 and I saw these three things that were surrounding the bed. 710 00:34:18,161 --> 00:34:22,513 And at first I thought, "Okay, those are children," 711 00:34:22,525 --> 00:34:26,761 'cause they're little, all-black, like black shadow, 712 00:34:26,772 --> 00:34:28,855 but solid. 713 00:34:28,861 --> 00:34:33,164 Then I saw that one was actually grabbing your feet, 714 00:34:33,176 --> 00:34:37,645 and the other one, up by your head, 715 00:34:37,656 --> 00:34:40,056 had its hand over your mouth. 716 00:34:40,063 --> 00:34:43,131 What they were doing was manhandling you, 717 00:34:43,140 --> 00:34:48,210 basically incapacitating you... 718 00:34:48,223 --> 00:34:49,889 holding you down, 719 00:34:49,895 --> 00:34:53,363 and they were laughing at you because you were afraid. 720 00:34:55,579 --> 00:34:58,130 The other thing I saw in your room 721 00:34:58,137 --> 00:34:59,753 was the old man again, 722 00:34:59,759 --> 00:35:03,661 and he loves when this is going on. 723 00:35:03,671 --> 00:35:05,805 He thinks it's absolutely fascinating. 724 00:35:05,812 --> 00:35:07,094 And that's why he goes up 725 00:35:07,098 --> 00:35:09,348 and he'll watch when this is all happening. 726 00:35:09,355 --> 00:35:12,557 STEVE: She's got some stuff going on. 727 00:35:12,566 --> 00:35:14,032 She feels like she's being spooned in bed. 728 00:35:14,037 --> 00:35:16,070 [Gasps] Yes. 729 00:35:16,077 --> 00:35:19,695 I woke up, and I could feel something behind me, 730 00:35:19,705 --> 00:35:23,324 spooning me, and its head was, like, right here, 731 00:35:23,333 --> 00:35:24,916 and I couldn't move. 732 00:35:24,922 --> 00:35:26,738 I couldn't breathe. I couldn't cry. 733 00:35:26,744 --> 00:35:31,680 I couldn't turn my light on. And it scratched me. 734 00:35:31,692 --> 00:35:35,861 I've woken up with scratches on my back. 735 00:35:35,872 --> 00:35:38,039 Oh, man. 736 00:35:38,046 --> 00:35:39,696 You kind of gasped when you heard 737 00:35:39,702 --> 00:35:41,185 that she was spooned in bed. 738 00:35:41,190 --> 00:35:43,156 Well, that happened to me. 739 00:35:45,319 --> 00:35:49,471 It was the second night after the walk. 740 00:35:49,482 --> 00:35:51,816 I was in my bed, 741 00:35:51,823 --> 00:35:57,327 and I felt someone from behind was holding me, 742 00:35:57,340 --> 00:36:02,509 and it felt very uncomfortable and inappropriate. 743 00:36:02,523 --> 00:36:06,092 And I believe it's the old man. 744 00:36:06,101 --> 00:36:10,687 I think he's kind of a predator. 745 00:36:13,257 --> 00:36:15,591 TAMI: I've begged it to leave her alone. 746 00:36:15,598 --> 00:36:17,564 JEFF: I wish I could go up there 747 00:36:17,570 --> 00:36:22,440 and slap the [bleep] out of it, honestly, and make it leave. 748 00:36:22,452 --> 00:36:25,620 I don't even want it to see that I'm afraid, 749 00:36:25,629 --> 00:36:28,596 'cause in a way, that means it wins. 750 00:36:31,013 --> 00:36:35,115 Well, I did do a sketch of what I saw in the bedroom. 751 00:36:43,419 --> 00:36:46,019 STEVE: [Sighs] 752 00:36:46,026 --> 00:36:48,260 I got to show it to you. 753 00:36:53,383 --> 00:36:56,151 [Crying] 754 00:36:58,867 --> 00:37:00,117 I've seen that. 755 00:37:12,683 --> 00:37:16,651 AMY: I did do a sketch of what I saw in the bedroom. 756 00:37:24,721 --> 00:37:26,487 STEVE: [Sighs] 757 00:37:26,493 --> 00:37:29,194 I got to show it to you. 758 00:37:34,318 --> 00:37:37,819 JESSICA: [Crying] 759 00:37:39,617 --> 00:37:41,434 I've seen that. 760 00:37:49,365 --> 00:37:51,432 The reason I know I've seen that... 761 00:37:51,439 --> 00:37:53,956 that's what was trying to touch me. 762 00:38:00,098 --> 00:38:01,748 STEVE: When I got here, I told you guys 763 00:38:01,754 --> 00:38:03,237 I never know what Amy's gonna see, 764 00:38:03,242 --> 00:38:05,609 and I'm sure you weren't expecting 765 00:38:05,616 --> 00:38:07,916 to hear what she told us tonight. 766 00:38:07,923 --> 00:38:09,389 I wasn't expecting it. 767 00:38:09,394 --> 00:38:11,278 At least now you know what you're dealing with. 768 00:38:11,284 --> 00:38:12,867 The big question is how do you fix it. 769 00:38:12,873 --> 00:38:16,574 For that answer, I'll turn it over to Amy. 770 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,628 AMY: The first thing that I want to focus on 771 00:38:22,637 --> 00:38:26,505 are the dead individuals that you have in the house. 772 00:38:26,515 --> 00:38:29,216 Obviously, the older man needs to go. 773 00:38:29,224 --> 00:38:35,862 So I would like for you to bring in an older, male medium. 774 00:38:35,878 --> 00:38:40,981 I want him to have a lot of confidence in what he does, 775 00:38:40,994 --> 00:38:43,328 and I do want him to have a certain amount 776 00:38:43,335 --> 00:38:46,836 of, like, gruff, I guess you would say. 777 00:38:46,846 --> 00:38:51,549 This probably isn't going to be a very pleasant situation 778 00:38:51,561 --> 00:38:54,562 for the medium or this old man, 779 00:38:54,570 --> 00:38:58,872 and there's probably going to be a lot of fighting happening. 780 00:39:00,990 --> 00:39:03,040 The thing with removing the older man 781 00:39:03,047 --> 00:39:07,033 is that his son is going to go immediately. 782 00:39:07,043 --> 00:39:09,877 Once the medium moves on the older man and his son, 783 00:39:09,885 --> 00:39:12,285 I want you to take this tar water 784 00:39:12,293 --> 00:39:14,727 and put it on all of the windowsills 785 00:39:14,734 --> 00:39:16,467 and all of the doorways. 786 00:39:16,473 --> 00:39:18,940 This is gonna keep all of the dead out from now on, 787 00:39:18,947 --> 00:39:22,782 so you'll know there's no dead people anymore. 788 00:39:22,792 --> 00:39:27,895 But you might still have experiences. 789 00:39:30,684 --> 00:39:32,183 JEFF: What do you mean? 790 00:39:32,188 --> 00:39:35,323 Well, I'm saying that there's a possibility of aliens... 791 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:44,345 because that thing I saw was not a dead thing. 792 00:39:44,361 --> 00:39:45,760 It's not a demon. 793 00:39:45,765 --> 00:39:49,267 It's something that was visiting 794 00:39:49,276 --> 00:39:52,043 and taking you... 795 00:39:52,051 --> 00:39:53,083 and your brother. 796 00:39:56,666 --> 00:39:58,966 Personally, I have a lot of issues with this, 797 00:39:58,973 --> 00:40:03,242 but when I looked and did my own research of this area, 798 00:40:03,253 --> 00:40:06,921 it was something that I couldn't not discuss. 799 00:40:06,931 --> 00:40:08,431 STEVE: Let me get this straight. 800 00:40:08,436 --> 00:40:12,238 You're telling me she's being abducted... her and her brother? 801 00:40:12,248 --> 00:40:15,182 I'm saying it's a very large possibility. 802 00:40:15,191 --> 00:40:17,458 Oh, gosh. 803 00:40:18,903 --> 00:40:20,769 I don't... I wouldn't even know 804 00:40:20,775 --> 00:40:22,858 how you would begin to fight something like that. 805 00:40:22,864 --> 00:40:26,683 That's a whole nother level 806 00:40:26,694 --> 00:40:29,929 of what the [bleep] do you do with that. 807 00:40:32,512 --> 00:40:35,579 STEVE: Now, is this something they can put a stop to, 808 00:40:35,588 --> 00:40:36,754 or is it something that they just kind of manage it? 809 00:40:36,758 --> 00:40:39,159 They kind of manage it. 810 00:40:42,242 --> 00:40:44,076 What I would recommend is keeping a journal 811 00:40:44,082 --> 00:40:48,284 and kind of just documenting, like, any dreams you have, 812 00:40:48,295 --> 00:40:50,261 or any further experiences, 813 00:40:50,267 --> 00:40:53,235 so that you have as much recall as possible. 814 00:40:53,244 --> 00:40:57,856 And it's really up to you how you want to handle this. 815 00:40:57,889 --> 00:41:00,816 It's not gonna be something that's on a regular basis. 816 00:41:00,922 --> 00:41:02,187 That would be highly unusual. 817 00:41:02,192 --> 00:41:04,055 So you can live with it. 818 00:41:04,061 --> 00:41:05,325 How do you feel, Jess? 819 00:41:05,330 --> 00:41:06,695 I mean, you're the one that's the main focus 820 00:41:06,700 --> 00:41:07,699 of what's going on. 821 00:41:09,241 --> 00:41:12,377 I didn't really want to believe 822 00:41:12,386 --> 00:41:15,186 that it was something from another dimension 823 00:41:15,194 --> 00:41:17,293 or anything like that, 824 00:41:17,299 --> 00:41:20,098 but I have no choice but to believe what Amy tells me 825 00:41:20,106 --> 00:41:22,073 and to do what she tells me to do. 826 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,251 To me, this sounds pretty simple, 827 00:41:25,259 --> 00:41:28,057 as far as getting rid of the spirits that are here 828 00:41:28,065 --> 00:41:31,938 and knowing that we can prevent any more coming in. 829 00:41:31,949 --> 00:41:35,482 The other we'll just have to tackle as a family, 830 00:41:35,491 --> 00:41:38,861 as we do other things, and we'll work through it somehow. 831 00:41:38,871 --> 00:41:43,874 I honestly feel hat God gives us the tools 832 00:41:43,886 --> 00:41:46,354 to do whatever we need to do. 833 00:41:46,362 --> 00:41:47,695 He led us to y'all. 834 00:41:49,906 --> 00:41:53,073 AMY: I wish I had better news for Jeff and his family, 835 00:41:53,082 --> 00:41:56,183 as dealing with alien activity can be terrifying. 836 00:41:56,192 --> 00:41:58,760 But I believe if they follow my advice, 837 00:41:58,767 --> 00:42:00,500 they'll be able to manage it, 838 00:42:00,506 --> 00:42:02,274 and with the help of a medium, 839 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,248 the dead will no longer torment them in their home. 840 00:42:05,298 --> 00:42:09,848 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 63194

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