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You can't escape. 14 00:00:40,180 --> 00:00:42,217 My name is Amy Allan. 15 00:00:43,357 --> 00:00:45,128 - [Crying] - What's happening? 16 00:00:45,130 --> 00:00:46,405 I see dead people. 17 00:00:46,407 --> 00:00:48,851 It seems like a devil. 18 00:00:48,853 --> 00:00:50,896 I speak to dead people. 19 00:00:50,898 --> 00:00:52,366 He's pissed off. 20 00:00:52,368 --> 00:00:53,703 And they speak to me. 21 00:00:53,705 --> 00:00:55,609 I felt real fear. 22 00:00:55,611 --> 00:00:58,857 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 23 00:00:58,859 --> 00:01:00,164 I think she's being murdered. 24 00:01:00,166 --> 00:01:02,271 I rely on my partner. 25 00:01:02,273 --> 00:01:03,611 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 26 00:01:03,613 --> 00:01:06,418 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 27 00:01:06,420 --> 00:01:07,787 Serial killer pops in my head. 28 00:01:07,789 --> 00:01:10,897 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 29 00:01:10,899 --> 00:01:12,101 [Voice breaking]: Nobody believes me. 30 00:01:12,103 --> 00:01:13,642 It's my job to reveal them. 31 00:01:13,644 --> 00:01:15,912 - Do you think there's still bodies there? - I do. 32 00:01:15,914 --> 00:01:17,519 But Steve and I never speak... 33 00:01:17,521 --> 00:01:19,491 We never communicate during an investigation. 34 00:01:19,493 --> 00:01:20,827 Until the very end. 35 00:01:20,829 --> 00:01:22,699 You got problems. I got news for you. 36 00:01:22,701 --> 00:01:24,707 When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 37 00:01:24,709 --> 00:01:26,711 This is our house, whether they like it or not. 38 00:01:26,713 --> 00:01:28,650 Or time to get out. 39 00:01:28,652 --> 00:01:30,889 This is their house, the house of the dead. 40 00:01:30,891 --> 00:01:34,129 - Synced and corrected by Retrojex - - www.addic7ed.com - 41 00:01:48,995 --> 00:01:50,930 I'm in St. Louis, Missouri. 42 00:01:50,932 --> 00:01:54,205 A woman named Shanan practically begged us to come out here. 43 00:01:54,207 --> 00:01:57,878 She told me she lived in a house that had a ton of activity. 44 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,817 A few months ago, she had enough. 45 00:01:59,819 --> 00:02:02,721 She picked up her four kids and moved the hell out of there. 46 00:02:02,723 --> 00:02:05,293 Problem is, her sister refuses to leave. 47 00:02:05,295 --> 00:02:06,531 She's there all alone, 48 00:02:06,533 --> 00:02:08,634 and Shanan thinks that her life is in danger. 49 00:02:15,046 --> 00:02:16,713 Matthew: Before Amy arrives, 50 00:02:16,715 --> 00:02:19,485 I look for anything that might influence her findings. 51 00:02:20,958 --> 00:02:23,194 This house has a lot of family photos. 52 00:02:23,196 --> 00:02:25,265 Once they're covered or removed, 53 00:02:25,267 --> 00:02:27,773 the location will be ready for tonight's walk. 54 00:02:31,974 --> 00:02:34,874 _ 55 00:02:43,566 --> 00:02:45,035 Okay. 56 00:02:45,537 --> 00:02:47,138 [Sighs] 57 00:02:47,140 --> 00:02:53,116 Someone here... and I think it's this tall, scary man... 58 00:02:53,118 --> 00:02:56,687 he's able to manipulate the living body, 59 00:02:56,689 --> 00:03:00,795 like he can cause physical pain in the body. 60 00:03:00,797 --> 00:03:05,803 He's a real... Freak. 61 00:03:07,808 --> 00:03:09,444 [Sighs] 62 00:03:09,446 --> 00:03:10,679 [Grunts] 63 00:03:13,117 --> 00:03:14,217 What's wrong? 64 00:03:14,219 --> 00:03:16,787 He is pretty [Bleep] powerful. 65 00:03:16,789 --> 00:03:19,556 Eh, I'm concerned... 66 00:03:22,857 --> 00:03:25,657 _ 67 00:03:29,804 --> 00:03:32,004 Steve: Shanan, you sounded pretty upset on the phone. 68 00:03:32,006 --> 00:03:33,371 - Yes. - Okay. 69 00:03:33,373 --> 00:03:35,272 So why don't you give me an idea of what's going on? 70 00:03:35,274 --> 00:03:36,476 Three years ago, 71 00:03:36,478 --> 00:03:39,678 me and my children moved in the home with my sister, 72 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,080 and little things just started happening... 73 00:03:42,082 --> 00:03:44,585 noises, footsteps, 74 00:03:44,587 --> 00:03:48,386 and then everything just started to get physical. 75 00:03:48,388 --> 00:03:51,455 Okay, what happened? 76 00:03:51,457 --> 00:03:54,727 Hailey, my 10-year-old, was hit with an object. 77 00:03:54,729 --> 00:03:55,995 Is this a picture of them? 78 00:03:55,997 --> 00:03:57,597 Yes. 79 00:03:57,599 --> 00:03:58,731 - And that's her? - Yes. 80 00:03:58,733 --> 00:04:00,166 - This one right here? - In the purple. 81 00:04:00,168 --> 00:04:05,537 This brush came from nowhere and just hit her in the back. 82 00:04:05,539 --> 00:04:06,870 And you witnessed this? 83 00:04:06,872 --> 00:04:08,438 We all witnessed it. 84 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,307 After that, I couldn't take any more. 85 00:04:11,309 --> 00:04:12,774 It terrified me, 86 00:04:12,776 --> 00:04:14,842 because something's trying to harm my child. 87 00:04:14,844 --> 00:04:16,576 That was the last straw. 88 00:04:16,578 --> 00:04:19,576 I just told my sister I cannot put up with this. 89 00:04:19,578 --> 00:04:21,344 I will not. 90 00:04:21,346 --> 00:04:22,444 That's when you were like, "I'm out of here." 91 00:04:22,446 --> 00:04:23,812 Yes. 92 00:04:23,814 --> 00:04:25,512 You're picking on a 10-year-old little girl? 93 00:04:25,514 --> 00:04:27,380 I mean, that pisses me off just thinking about it. 94 00:04:27,382 --> 00:04:28,781 Right. That's why I called you guys. 95 00:04:28,783 --> 00:04:32,650 Since we have moved out, my sister is in more danger. 96 00:04:32,652 --> 00:04:34,083 It's gotten worse. 97 00:04:34,085 --> 00:04:35,716 She's been pushed down stairs. 98 00:04:35,718 --> 00:04:37,785 Is she all right? 99 00:04:37,787 --> 00:04:39,287 She was hurt. 100 00:04:39,289 --> 00:04:42,856 Like, she had a cast on for weeks. 101 00:04:42,858 --> 00:04:45,057 What do you think's going on? 102 00:04:45,059 --> 00:04:46,790 It might be targeting her, 103 00:04:46,792 --> 00:04:49,755 and I'm worried about her living here alone. 104 00:04:49,757 --> 00:04:51,255 Okay. 105 00:04:52,457 --> 00:04:54,125 Amy: This tall guy... 106 00:04:54,127 --> 00:04:57,458 he's able to interact like a living person. 107 00:04:59,092 --> 00:05:02,760 So, I did see something with him and a child. 108 00:05:02,762 --> 00:05:09,232 He'll come out of the dark, and he takes off his skin... 109 00:05:09,234 --> 00:05:11,731 Like reaching for the kid, 110 00:05:11,733 --> 00:05:12,932 and the kid's all, like, scared. 111 00:05:12,934 --> 00:05:14,066 Ugh. 112 00:05:15,233 --> 00:05:17,563 [Breathes deeply] 113 00:05:25,904 --> 00:05:28,038 The guy... he's [Bleep] pissed. 114 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,974 He says, "get the [Bleep] out." 115 00:05:31,575 --> 00:05:34,075 _ 116 00:05:38,181 --> 00:05:40,348 Okay, so what's going on in here? 117 00:05:40,350 --> 00:05:42,787 This might sound strange, 118 00:05:42,789 --> 00:05:44,854 but we have all been sitting in this room, 119 00:05:44,856 --> 00:05:46,121 watching television, 120 00:05:46,123 --> 00:05:49,527 and coins would fly out of nowhere and hit you. 121 00:05:49,529 --> 00:05:50,762 Like quarters, dimes, that type of thing? 122 00:05:50,764 --> 00:05:51,830 Right. 123 00:05:51,832 --> 00:05:52,797 Are you sure it's not the kids 124 00:05:52,799 --> 00:05:53,698 playing around with each other? 125 00:05:53,700 --> 00:05:55,033 Absolutely not. 126 00:05:55,035 --> 00:05:57,033 And why do you say that? 127 00:05:57,035 --> 00:05:58,801 Because we're all together, 128 00:05:58,803 --> 00:06:01,140 and I would be able to see 129 00:06:01,142 --> 00:06:04,808 if someone physically threw something at someone. 130 00:06:04,810 --> 00:06:05,708 That is strange. 131 00:06:05,710 --> 00:06:06,808 Yes. 132 00:06:06,810 --> 00:06:08,608 Okay. Anything else down here? 133 00:06:08,610 --> 00:06:10,176 This is one thing 134 00:06:10,178 --> 00:06:13,914 that really makes me emotional to this day. 135 00:06:13,916 --> 00:06:16,048 I am sitting here. 136 00:06:16,050 --> 00:06:21,250 As I look toward this way, apparitions came to me, 137 00:06:21,252 --> 00:06:23,684 one after the other, like a parade, 138 00:06:23,686 --> 00:06:26,185 like they were trying to get to me. 139 00:06:26,187 --> 00:06:29,486 Now, describe the apparitions. 140 00:06:29,488 --> 00:06:31,621 The first one, it was like a gladiator. 141 00:06:31,623 --> 00:06:33,557 After the gladiator, 142 00:06:33,559 --> 00:06:35,995 there was like a... 143 00:06:35,997 --> 00:06:38,695 he was like an Indian, like an American Indian. 144 00:06:38,697 --> 00:06:41,064 And then there was another one. 145 00:06:41,066 --> 00:06:44,135 It was just a white, like, tall, long mist. 146 00:06:44,137 --> 00:06:46,504 I'm shaking right now. I'm sorry. 147 00:06:46,506 --> 00:06:48,205 No, it's okay. I can see that. 148 00:06:48,207 --> 00:06:53,142 Yeah. I'm shaking because I'm just remembering this. 149 00:06:53,144 --> 00:06:55,947 And I was crying profusely. 150 00:06:55,949 --> 00:06:57,815 I have to ask, were you cocktailing that night 151 00:06:57,817 --> 00:06:59,150 - or anything like that? - No, no. 152 00:06:59,152 --> 00:07:01,719 Were you in and out of dreaming maybe? 153 00:07:01,721 --> 00:07:03,188 No. I was alert. 154 00:07:03,190 --> 00:07:04,957 Now, I know you experienced this. 155 00:07:04,959 --> 00:07:06,559 Now your sister's here alone. 156 00:07:06,561 --> 00:07:08,728 You worried about her going through that by herself? 157 00:07:08,730 --> 00:07:09,762 Yes, I do, 158 00:07:09,764 --> 00:07:12,832 because I just need her to realize 159 00:07:12,834 --> 00:07:15,002 what's actually going on. 160 00:07:15,004 --> 00:07:16,038 It's not a game. 161 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:17,072 It's not. 162 00:07:22,978 --> 00:07:25,145 Amy: That guy is here. 163 00:07:25,147 --> 00:07:26,178 Matthew: Who? 164 00:07:26,180 --> 00:07:27,913 The tall one. 165 00:07:31,687 --> 00:07:33,721 Do you know if he interacts with the living? 166 00:07:33,723 --> 00:07:35,590 - Oh, yeah, yeah. - How? 167 00:07:35,592 --> 00:07:37,493 I would think that the living would see him. 168 00:07:37,495 --> 00:07:41,829 He's able to manipulate people's minds like puppets 169 00:07:41,831 --> 00:07:44,531 and cause them to hallucinate. 170 00:07:48,969 --> 00:07:51,503 Don't know what they're seeing. 171 00:07:51,505 --> 00:07:52,971 Are you worried he might be manipulating 172 00:07:52,973 --> 00:07:54,605 what you're perceiving? 173 00:07:54,607 --> 00:07:56,374 I am. 174 00:07:57,709 --> 00:08:01,578 And there is a whole bunch of kids. 175 00:08:01,580 --> 00:08:04,282 And what are they doing? 176 00:08:04,284 --> 00:08:05,517 They make a lot of ruckus. 177 00:08:05,519 --> 00:08:07,117 They're loud. They're annoying. 178 00:08:07,119 --> 00:08:08,685 They're creepy. You hear them. 179 00:08:08,687 --> 00:08:12,125 One weird thing about this guy... 180 00:08:12,127 --> 00:08:14,027 he doesn't like them little things. 181 00:08:14,029 --> 00:08:16,662 --He thinks that they're from hell. 182 00:08:18,963 --> 00:08:22,063 _ 183 00:08:26,244 --> 00:08:28,546 Steve: So, Hailey, I was talking to mom today, 184 00:08:28,548 --> 00:08:30,414 and she told me about an incident that happened to you 185 00:08:30,416 --> 00:08:31,015 with the hairbrush. 186 00:08:31,017 --> 00:08:31,686 Yeah. 187 00:08:31,688 --> 00:08:33,187 Can you tell me what happened? 188 00:08:33,289 --> 00:08:36,121 We were on our way to go to school, 189 00:08:36,123 --> 00:08:38,855 and we were all by the front door. 190 00:08:38,857 --> 00:08:42,594 And then a push... it came and hit me on the side. 191 00:08:42,596 --> 00:08:45,229 And then I thought it was my brother, 192 00:08:45,231 --> 00:08:48,530 and I was yelling at him and getting mad at him. 193 00:08:48,532 --> 00:08:49,898 And then my teacher... 194 00:08:49,900 --> 00:08:52,768 she said it wasn't him because he was behind me. 195 00:08:52,770 --> 00:08:54,269 Okay, did it hit you hard? 196 00:08:54,271 --> 00:08:55,137 Yeah. 197 00:08:55,139 --> 00:08:56,905 Did you get scared when that happened? 198 00:08:56,907 --> 00:08:58,073 Yeah. 199 00:08:58,075 --> 00:08:59,942 So, are you worried about your aunt? 200 00:08:59,944 --> 00:09:02,743 She's scared, too. 201 00:09:02,745 --> 00:09:04,312 - But she won't tell you? - No. 202 00:09:04,314 --> 00:09:05,646 Now, would you come back to live here 203 00:09:05,648 --> 00:09:07,447 if we could figure out what's going on? 204 00:09:07,449 --> 00:09:10,019 Mm... No. 205 00:09:10,021 --> 00:09:11,222 Okay. 206 00:09:13,690 --> 00:09:19,899 These kids orchestrate really very, very violent, bad things. 207 00:09:21,767 --> 00:09:23,603 They're malicious. 208 00:09:23,605 --> 00:09:25,272 I got to get out of here. 209 00:09:25,274 --> 00:09:28,072 Really weird, and I don't like it. 210 00:09:28,074 --> 00:09:31,576 I don't think this place is good for kids. 211 00:09:31,578 --> 00:09:35,744 I don't think this [Bleep] place is good for anybody. 212 00:09:40,082 --> 00:09:42,916 _ 213 00:09:42,917 --> 00:09:45,749 _ 214 00:09:50,450 --> 00:09:54,054 _ 215 00:09:57,271 --> 00:09:59,707 Steve: Well, Krystal, it's good to finally talk with you. 216 00:09:59,709 --> 00:10:01,443 I spoke with your sister. 217 00:10:01,445 --> 00:10:03,579 I spoke with some other family members. 218 00:10:03,581 --> 00:10:04,747 They all want you out of here. 219 00:10:04,749 --> 00:10:06,582 Yeah. 220 00:10:06,584 --> 00:10:08,718 They're all gone. 221 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,887 And they feel it's unsafe for you here. 222 00:10:10,889 --> 00:10:13,022 I got to ask you, why are you staying? 223 00:10:13,024 --> 00:10:15,693 What's the draw to the house that you won't leave? 224 00:10:15,695 --> 00:10:19,398 I've put so much time into this house. 225 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:23,201 It took me two years to make it livable. 226 00:10:23,203 --> 00:10:25,203 How long ago did you buy it? 227 00:10:25,205 --> 00:10:27,305 It's been about six years now. 228 00:10:27,307 --> 00:10:29,705 Now, do you know any history about the house? 229 00:10:29,707 --> 00:10:30,373 No. 230 00:10:30,375 --> 00:10:32,041 Your sister mentioned to me 231 00:10:32,043 --> 00:10:33,279 that since she's moved out with the kids 232 00:10:33,281 --> 00:10:35,515 that activity's gotten worse. Is that right? 233 00:10:35,517 --> 00:10:38,417 Yes. I definitely think it's gotten a lot worse 234 00:10:38,419 --> 00:10:39,353 since she's been gone. 235 00:10:39,355 --> 00:10:42,523 It's like everything's being directed at one person 236 00:10:42,525 --> 00:10:45,592 instead of six. There were six of us. 237 00:10:45,594 --> 00:10:47,727 Okay. How is that affecting you? 238 00:10:47,729 --> 00:10:49,295 I just don't feel like myself. 239 00:10:49,297 --> 00:10:51,631 You know, sometimes I'm very moody. 240 00:10:51,633 --> 00:10:54,735 Sometimes I'm very angry, just for no reason, 241 00:10:54,737 --> 00:10:55,871 or depressed. 242 00:10:55,873 --> 00:10:58,508 When you're away from the house for a day or two, let's say, 243 00:10:58,510 --> 00:10:59,810 you feel better? 244 00:10:59,812 --> 00:11:01,044 Yeah. 245 00:11:07,153 --> 00:11:10,390 Amy: There is this older guy, and he's sick. 246 00:11:10,392 --> 00:11:13,964 He... you feel it. 247 00:11:13,966 --> 00:11:16,600 He died here. 248 00:11:16,602 --> 00:11:22,138 He's very depressed, 249 00:11:22,140 --> 00:11:26,308 very, very, very lonely. 250 00:11:27,378 --> 00:11:32,552 He feels like he was just abandoned and left to die. 251 00:11:32,554 --> 00:11:34,657 He picks a spot, 252 00:11:34,659 --> 00:11:37,826 and he stays there for a while. 253 00:11:37,828 --> 00:11:41,229 One day this room will be bad, 254 00:11:41,231 --> 00:11:43,798 and then like next week, it will be downstairs. 255 00:11:43,900 --> 00:11:45,599 Bad? 256 00:11:45,601 --> 00:11:47,464 Yeah. The person will be... 257 00:11:47,866 --> 00:11:49,597 they spend time in there, 258 00:11:49,599 --> 00:11:52,332 they'll feel really, really depressed. 259 00:11:59,540 --> 00:12:01,207 So, what's going on in here? 260 00:12:01,209 --> 00:12:04,141 I have experienced a lot of scary things in here, 261 00:12:04,143 --> 00:12:07,410 and it keeps me from being able to sleep. 262 00:12:07,412 --> 00:12:11,248 When I close my eyes, I see really horrible images. 263 00:12:11,250 --> 00:12:13,985 So, what do these images look like? 264 00:12:13,987 --> 00:12:16,521 In each instance, they're black, 265 00:12:16,523 --> 00:12:19,957 like really, really black, like burned almost. 266 00:12:19,959 --> 00:12:21,524 Now, do you watch horror movies at night? 267 00:12:21,526 --> 00:12:22,525 No, not at night. 268 00:12:22,527 --> 00:12:24,228 And I've never seen anything 269 00:12:24,230 --> 00:12:26,932 like these things that I see when I close my eyes. 270 00:12:26,934 --> 00:12:28,567 What else is going on up in here? 271 00:12:28,569 --> 00:12:30,970 Oh, my bed shakes. 272 00:12:30,972 --> 00:12:33,510 The first time it happened, I thought it was an earthquake, 273 00:12:33,512 --> 00:12:35,411 but nothing else was shaking but the bed. 274 00:12:35,413 --> 00:12:38,013 Show me how it shook, how hard. What are we talking about? 275 00:12:38,015 --> 00:12:39,714 Well, I was kind of sitting like this, 276 00:12:39,716 --> 00:12:41,749 and then I just started moving like this, 277 00:12:41,751 --> 00:12:44,951 like somebody was, like, on the other end, 278 00:12:44,953 --> 00:12:46,389 like pushing it. 279 00:12:46,691 --> 00:12:48,358 I know you have a small dog. 280 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,327 - Any other big animals? - No. 281 00:12:50,329 --> 00:12:52,796 Is it heavy enough that if somebody was pushing on the bed, 282 00:12:52,798 --> 00:12:54,496 it would have to be an adult, or could a kid do it? 283 00:12:54,498 --> 00:12:56,230 It would definitely have to be an adult. 284 00:12:56,232 --> 00:12:58,400 How the hell are you sleeping in here? 285 00:12:58,402 --> 00:13:00,268 I really don't sleep. 286 00:13:00,270 --> 00:13:01,469 That's not good. 287 00:13:01,871 --> 00:13:03,069 That's gonna take its toll eventually. 288 00:13:03,071 --> 00:13:04,834 Mm-hmm. It already has. 289 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:14,245 Amy: This tall, scary man... he does stuff. 290 00:13:14,247 --> 00:13:15,478 You know what I'm saying? 291 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,246 He's super smart. 292 00:13:17,248 --> 00:13:19,116 He can manipulate the body. 293 00:13:19,118 --> 00:13:20,951 He's a very physical presence. 294 00:13:20,953 --> 00:13:25,354 He's able to interact like a living person. 295 00:13:25,356 --> 00:13:28,624 He's like, "I'm the least of the worries." 296 00:13:28,626 --> 00:13:31,959 No, you're a problem. 297 00:13:34,426 --> 00:13:37,990 He's, you know, kind of... 298 00:13:37,992 --> 00:13:40,360 Like torturing people to get them out of here 299 00:13:40,362 --> 00:13:41,960 because of these kids. 300 00:13:41,962 --> 00:13:43,794 So he thinks he's helping the living 301 00:13:43,796 --> 00:13:46,568 to get them to leave here before something happens to them? 302 00:13:46,570 --> 00:13:48,371 Yes, he does. 303 00:13:48,373 --> 00:13:51,307 He does believe that. 304 00:13:52,642 --> 00:13:55,176 Steve: We haven't talked about why I'm really here. 305 00:13:55,178 --> 00:13:57,610 - The staircase. - Krystal: Yeah. 306 00:14:01,617 --> 00:14:04,284 So, did you fall down the whole flight? 307 00:14:04,286 --> 00:14:05,517 The whole flight. 308 00:14:05,519 --> 00:14:08,452 I usually don't stand here very often, 309 00:14:08,454 --> 00:14:10,621 'cause it's really scary. 310 00:14:10,623 --> 00:14:12,122 Okay, take me through what happened. 311 00:14:12,124 --> 00:14:15,325 So, basically, I just walked up the steps, 312 00:14:15,327 --> 00:14:20,997 and then, all of a sudden, I... fell down the stairs. 313 00:14:20,999 --> 00:14:24,000 And I apparently did a cartwheel. 314 00:14:24,002 --> 00:14:26,202 You can even see where the bottom of my shoe 315 00:14:26,204 --> 00:14:27,704 made a mark on the wall. 316 00:14:27,706 --> 00:14:32,510 And then I fractured my elbow at the bottom of the stairs. 317 00:14:32,512 --> 00:14:34,445 How do you think you fell? 318 00:14:34,447 --> 00:14:36,846 It's hard for me to say this, 319 00:14:36,848 --> 00:14:38,749 but I think that I was pushed... 320 00:14:40,955 --> 00:14:43,054 because I fell really hard. 321 00:14:43,056 --> 00:14:44,255 I'm really concerned for you. 322 00:14:44,257 --> 00:14:46,428 - You're here alone. - Yeah. 323 00:14:46,430 --> 00:14:48,431 And you're not sleeping. 324 00:14:48,433 --> 00:14:49,734 You're almost killed. 325 00:14:49,736 --> 00:14:50,935 That would have killed most people. 326 00:14:50,937 --> 00:14:54,271 Yeah. One of the kids probably wouldn't have made it. 327 00:14:58,382 --> 00:15:01,487 These little kids that are here... 328 00:15:01,489 --> 00:15:04,325 they were not right. 329 00:15:04,327 --> 00:15:08,433 They weren't normal when they were alive, 330 00:15:08,435 --> 00:15:14,272 and I think that they... 331 00:15:14,274 --> 00:15:17,411 are really damaged now. 332 00:15:23,886 --> 00:15:26,787 What do these kids do? 333 00:15:26,789 --> 00:15:30,295 They make big things happen... 334 00:15:30,297 --> 00:15:31,894 over time. 335 00:15:31,896 --> 00:15:38,332 They cause really very, very violent, bad things... 336 00:15:38,334 --> 00:15:40,034 to happen. 337 00:15:40,036 --> 00:15:46,178 "Catastrophe" is the word that I hear being used. 338 00:15:47,546 --> 00:15:48,713 I don't like this. 339 00:15:48,715 --> 00:15:50,382 I don't like this. 340 00:16:04,637 --> 00:16:06,472 Usually, clients know a little bit 341 00:16:06,474 --> 00:16:08,207 about the history of their property. 342 00:16:08,209 --> 00:16:10,611 Krystal doesn't have a clue. 343 00:16:10,613 --> 00:16:12,148 So I started from the beginning 344 00:16:12,150 --> 00:16:14,546 and tracked down the original owner of the land, 345 00:16:14,548 --> 00:16:15,881 a guy named B.W. Alexander. 346 00:16:15,883 --> 00:16:18,351 And when I reached out to one of his descendants, 347 00:16:18,353 --> 00:16:20,453 she said we definitely needed to talk. 348 00:16:21,854 --> 00:16:24,954 _ 349 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,220 Marcia, thanks for meeting with me. I appreciate that. 350 00:16:29,222 --> 00:16:32,621 Now, you're a descendant of B.W. Alexander. 351 00:16:32,723 --> 00:16:35,789 Basil William Alexander was my third great grandfather. 352 00:16:35,791 --> 00:16:37,224 What can you tell me about him? 353 00:16:37,326 --> 00:16:39,059 He was a self-made man. 354 00:16:39,061 --> 00:16:41,059 He actually as a young man 355 00:16:41,361 --> 00:16:43,627 was indentured out to a bricklayer 356 00:16:43,629 --> 00:16:46,061 and worked in servant conditions, 357 00:16:46,063 --> 00:16:49,232 worked his way up, got out of that situation, 358 00:16:49,234 --> 00:16:51,101 and started making his own business 359 00:16:51,103 --> 00:16:54,166 and making a name for himself and made a lot of money. 360 00:16:54,168 --> 00:16:57,369 He ended up being on the board of directors 361 00:16:57,371 --> 00:16:59,104 of several banks in town, 362 00:16:59,206 --> 00:17:02,637 and he really grew to be quite an influential man. 363 00:17:02,639 --> 00:17:05,644 This is a picture of him when he was in his heyday. 364 00:17:05,646 --> 00:17:06,779 Quite a prominent man. 365 00:17:06,781 --> 00:17:08,379 He's a big guy. 366 00:17:08,381 --> 00:17:10,514 Even though this obviously looks like 367 00:17:10,516 --> 00:17:12,482 he's a healthy, well-fed man, 368 00:17:12,984 --> 00:17:15,716 death records show when he finally died at age 79, 369 00:17:15,718 --> 00:17:18,548 he actually died of marasmus, which is malnutrition. 370 00:17:18,550 --> 00:17:22,519 He wasted away to nothing. 371 00:17:28,658 --> 00:17:33,730 Amy: This tall, scary man. 372 00:17:33,732 --> 00:17:35,599 I wish he would tell me more 373 00:17:35,601 --> 00:17:38,237 about what, like, what his deal was 374 00:17:38,239 --> 00:17:40,239 when he was alive and stuff. 375 00:17:40,241 --> 00:17:41,507 Can you describe him? 376 00:17:41,509 --> 00:17:44,577 He's very thin. He's very lanky. 377 00:17:44,579 --> 00:17:49,111 When he was alive, like, he still was tough, 378 00:17:49,113 --> 00:17:51,814 like people were afraid of him anyways. 379 00:17:51,816 --> 00:17:56,915 You know, I don't think he was such a great person 380 00:17:56,917 --> 00:17:58,719 when he was alive, you know? 381 00:17:58,721 --> 00:18:04,726 I think he, you know, kind of did maybe shady things, 382 00:18:04,728 --> 00:18:06,397 you know, to make money, you know? 383 00:18:06,399 --> 00:18:09,668 He's super smart. 384 00:18:09,670 --> 00:18:15,274 Very smart person and knows how to, you know, work it. 385 00:18:15,276 --> 00:18:20,178 When I started to get in there to see things, 386 00:18:20,180 --> 00:18:25,384 he got really sad and was kind of like vulnerable. 387 00:18:25,386 --> 00:18:26,486 He didn't like that. 388 00:18:26,488 --> 00:18:29,322 But now he's very angry. 389 00:18:29,324 --> 00:18:30,723 [Bell tolls] 390 00:18:30,725 --> 00:18:31,591 During the research, 391 00:18:31,593 --> 00:18:34,028 I found that B.W. was the original owner, 392 00:18:34,030 --> 00:18:36,699 bought the property I'm investigating back in 1860. 393 00:18:36,701 --> 00:18:38,633 Marcia: 1860 is what we show. 394 00:18:38,635 --> 00:18:39,969 He bought 80 acres. 395 00:18:40,171 --> 00:18:42,506 We have a map here that shows his land. 396 00:18:42,508 --> 00:18:43,340 He had a home there. 397 00:18:43,342 --> 00:18:45,175 He had a rock quarry, a vineyard, 398 00:18:45,177 --> 00:18:46,777 and slaves quarters. 399 00:18:47,379 --> 00:18:49,682 Now, do you know how many slaves he did have? 400 00:18:49,684 --> 00:18:52,283 Family records show that during the civil war, 401 00:18:52,285 --> 00:18:53,985 he had up to 23 slaves. 402 00:18:53,987 --> 00:18:56,222 So it was families, you know, men, women, 403 00:18:56,224 --> 00:18:58,124 and, of course, their children. 404 00:18:58,126 --> 00:18:59,860 And, you know, if they died, 405 00:18:59,862 --> 00:19:01,430 they were buried on the property. 406 00:19:04,904 --> 00:19:08,511 Amy: The tall, scary man... 407 00:19:08,513 --> 00:19:15,322 he does not want me to seek these... 408 00:19:15,324 --> 00:19:18,526 Things out, you know? But... 409 00:19:18,528 --> 00:19:19,960 the children? 410 00:19:19,962 --> 00:19:21,029 Yeah. But then I'm like, 411 00:19:21,031 --> 00:19:25,829 "well, why don't you just tell me, you know, what they are? 412 00:19:25,831 --> 00:19:29,365 And then we're good." 413 00:19:29,367 --> 00:19:32,063 The tall man doesn't want me to know anything 414 00:19:32,065 --> 00:19:33,699 about the kids in the house, 415 00:19:33,701 --> 00:19:36,501 but I'm determined to find out more about them. 416 00:19:36,503 --> 00:19:39,570 And something is telling me to head to the basement. 417 00:19:43,274 --> 00:19:45,877 He definitely has a lot of control 418 00:19:45,879 --> 00:19:48,375 over the other dead people here. 419 00:19:48,377 --> 00:19:54,779 Somebody says something about bad kids... 420 00:19:54,781 --> 00:19:56,214 well, bad children. 421 00:19:56,216 --> 00:19:57,982 And then I'm hearing "headmaster." 422 00:19:58,184 --> 00:20:02,887 And then somebody's yelling about justice 423 00:20:02,889 --> 00:20:06,357 and, you know, doing what needs to be done to them, 424 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,093 you know, that they're like [Bleep] demons, 425 00:20:10,095 --> 00:20:12,598 and, you know, they don't have souls anyways. 426 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,035 I don't know what's going on here. 427 00:20:14,037 --> 00:20:16,337 This is getting [Bleep] weird, man. 428 00:20:18,374 --> 00:20:20,576 This is going pretty back, 429 00:20:20,578 --> 00:20:24,313 you know, like 1860s. 430 00:20:24,315 --> 00:20:27,985 I don't really want to be down here anymore. 431 00:20:29,653 --> 00:20:31,253 Marcia, you mentioned on the phone 432 00:20:31,255 --> 00:20:33,355 that B.W. had some tragedy in his life. 433 00:20:33,357 --> 00:20:34,591 What were you talking about? 434 00:20:34,593 --> 00:20:37,331 A lot of people came in and out of his life 435 00:20:37,333 --> 00:20:38,898 and died sad deaths. 436 00:20:39,100 --> 00:20:42,068 He lost his first wife at a very young age. 437 00:20:42,070 --> 00:20:43,271 She was only 22. 438 00:20:43,273 --> 00:20:45,940 Out of his 13 children that were born to him, 439 00:20:45,942 --> 00:20:48,140 only 6 of them lived to adulthood. 440 00:20:48,142 --> 00:20:51,112 Several of them died as young children. 441 00:20:51,114 --> 00:20:53,516 As a matter of fact, one year, 442 00:20:53,518 --> 00:20:56,920 he lost three children within a week of each other. 443 00:20:56,922 --> 00:20:58,087 And do we know what they died of? 444 00:20:58,389 --> 00:20:59,657 Probably Scarlet fever. 445 00:20:59,659 --> 00:21:01,460 I don't know if I would have been able to handle something like that. 446 00:21:01,462 --> 00:21:02,927 I can't imagine. 447 00:21:06,631 --> 00:21:10,601 Amy: This tall, scary man... 448 00:21:10,603 --> 00:21:14,905 I want to say that he lost a child. 449 00:21:14,907 --> 00:21:16,038 I think he lost a son. 450 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,776 He believes in heaven and hell and God, 451 00:21:19,778 --> 00:21:21,879 but he denounces them. 452 00:21:21,881 --> 00:21:24,849 He is very confusing. 453 00:21:24,851 --> 00:21:29,453 He might have been summoned to do some kind of messed up stuff, 454 00:21:29,455 --> 00:21:32,091 'cause he's doing some pretty bad [Bleep] 455 00:21:47,362 --> 00:21:50,766 There's so much death associated with my client's property, 456 00:21:50,768 --> 00:21:53,702 but I still need to know if there's anything else. 457 00:21:53,704 --> 00:21:56,472 So I'm hitting the books at the local library. 458 00:21:58,607 --> 00:21:59,875 Digging through old records, 459 00:21:59,877 --> 00:22:03,681 I uncover a murder/suicide that happened in 1894, 460 00:22:04,283 --> 00:22:08,051 right across the street from my client's house. 461 00:22:08,153 --> 00:22:09,051 I'm heading over to meet 462 00:22:09,053 --> 00:22:10,786 with the city's chief medical examiner 463 00:22:10,988 --> 00:22:12,786 so he can help me make sense of it all. 464 00:22:21,659 --> 00:22:22,759 Well, Dr. Graham, thanks for meeting me. 465 00:22:22,761 --> 00:22:23,960 I know you're a busy man. 466 00:22:24,662 --> 00:22:26,760 Now, what can you tell me about this murder/suicide 467 00:22:26,762 --> 00:22:28,227 that happened across the street 468 00:22:28,229 --> 00:22:29,895 from the property I'm investigating? 469 00:22:29,897 --> 00:22:32,930 Basically, there was a new house being built 470 00:22:32,932 --> 00:22:35,265 for a construction boss or a carpenter boss. 471 00:22:35,367 --> 00:22:36,465 Okay. 472 00:22:36,467 --> 00:22:40,203 And he had fired one of his workers a few days earlier, 473 00:22:40,205 --> 00:22:42,769 probably because of the worker being a drinker. 474 00:22:42,771 --> 00:22:44,403 - That was a Mr. Stute. - Okay. 475 00:22:45,005 --> 00:22:47,676 And so Mr. Stute thought about it for a while 476 00:22:47,678 --> 00:22:49,279 and really got agitated, 477 00:22:49,281 --> 00:22:51,849 brought his double-barreled shotgun to the work site. 478 00:22:51,851 --> 00:22:53,350 One of the following mornings, 479 00:22:53,352 --> 00:22:55,449 Mr. Wench, who was the carpenter boss, 480 00:22:55,651 --> 00:22:57,948 was on the second story of this unfinished house. 481 00:22:58,050 --> 00:22:59,281 Okay. 482 00:22:59,283 --> 00:23:02,885 Mr. Stute came in and discharged one barrel 483 00:23:03,387 --> 00:23:06,054 of the double-barreled shotgun 484 00:23:06,056 --> 00:23:09,489 and looks like hit Mr. Wench in the jaw area, 485 00:23:09,491 --> 00:23:11,089 and then up and out through the face. 486 00:23:11,091 --> 00:23:12,957 And, in fact, I've got a copy of the newspaper article 487 00:23:12,959 --> 00:23:15,057 and one of the artist's renditions. 488 00:23:15,259 --> 00:23:16,857 Oh. Look at that. 489 00:23:16,859 --> 00:23:20,059 And then as soon as he did that, 490 00:23:20,061 --> 00:23:24,528 Mr. Stute put the stock of the gun on the floor, 491 00:23:24,530 --> 00:23:27,297 leaned over it with the muzzle against his belly, 492 00:23:27,299 --> 00:23:31,302 and discharged the second barrel and took his own life. 493 00:23:31,304 --> 00:23:32,669 Wow. 494 00:23:32,671 --> 00:23:34,839 And I was able to locate the original coroner's inquest 495 00:23:34,841 --> 00:23:35,874 for each of those deaths. 496 00:23:35,876 --> 00:23:36,876 You're kidding me. 497 00:23:36,878 --> 00:23:38,377 This is the original paperwork? 498 00:23:38,379 --> 00:23:40,746 This is the original paperwork from 1894. 499 00:23:44,947 --> 00:23:46,312 And as it turns out, 500 00:23:46,314 --> 00:23:48,579 Mr. stute did not die right away, 501 00:23:48,581 --> 00:23:51,181 but was taken to the old city hospital, 502 00:23:51,183 --> 00:23:54,983 where he was operated on and died within a few hours. 503 00:23:57,218 --> 00:24:00,290 Amy: I would say that this is a busy area, 504 00:24:00,292 --> 00:24:03,624 and so I don't know 505 00:24:03,626 --> 00:24:09,627 if what I'm getting is site-specific, 506 00:24:09,629 --> 00:24:15,361 but I did have this pain in my back right here, 507 00:24:15,363 --> 00:24:18,265 and it goes all the way through. 508 00:24:18,267 --> 00:24:21,064 Extremely painful. 509 00:24:21,066 --> 00:24:25,468 So I think that someone maybe got shot. 510 00:24:25,470 --> 00:24:28,901 I don't know front or back. 511 00:24:28,903 --> 00:24:33,474 I think that it was a male. 512 00:24:33,476 --> 00:24:34,909 And the problem is 513 00:24:34,911 --> 00:24:39,209 I don't know if it was murder or suicide. 514 00:24:41,010 --> 00:24:44,110 _ 515 00:24:50,243 --> 00:24:52,811 During my walk, I saw a tall, thin man 516 00:24:52,813 --> 00:24:55,315 who was able to cause hallucinations. 517 00:24:55,317 --> 00:24:57,251 I'm meeting with a sketch artist 518 00:24:57,253 --> 00:24:59,251 to describe how he appeared to me. 519 00:24:59,253 --> 00:25:02,253 He was approximately 6'4", 520 00:25:02,255 --> 00:25:05,488 extremely thin, especially for his height. 521 00:25:05,490 --> 00:25:07,557 His hair goes back. 522 00:25:07,559 --> 00:25:09,861 Very dark eyes. 523 00:25:09,863 --> 00:25:12,362 Next, I described the childlike entities 524 00:25:12,364 --> 00:25:14,929 who are plotting to harm a living person. 525 00:25:14,931 --> 00:25:17,625 So it happened at the top of the stairwell. 526 00:25:17,627 --> 00:25:19,060 They were all together. 527 00:25:19,062 --> 00:25:20,861 There was about three of them, 528 00:25:20,863 --> 00:25:25,526 and they had decided to do this to this lady. 529 00:25:30,700 --> 00:25:32,166 Is this what you saw? 530 00:25:33,967 --> 00:25:35,701 Yes. 531 00:25:52,002 --> 00:25:55,002 _ 532 00:26:00,379 --> 00:26:03,511 Steve: Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 533 00:26:03,513 --> 00:26:05,411 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 534 00:26:05,413 --> 00:26:07,478 and our clients for the first time. 535 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,445 Well, Amy, I'd like you to meet Shanan and Krystal. 536 00:26:10,447 --> 00:26:11,814 Now, they're sisters. 537 00:26:11,816 --> 00:26:15,286 Krystal actually owns this home, 538 00:26:15,288 --> 00:26:17,923 and Shanan was living here with her four kids. 539 00:26:17,925 --> 00:26:19,324 I actually have a photo. 540 00:26:23,565 --> 00:26:25,033 Aw. 541 00:26:25,035 --> 00:26:28,702 Well, thing is, activity got so bad here a few months back, 542 00:26:28,704 --> 00:26:31,707 she packed up herself and the four kids and got out. 543 00:26:31,709 --> 00:26:34,578 Problem we got here is that Krystal is still in the house, 544 00:26:34,580 --> 00:26:35,713 and she's here alone. 545 00:26:38,784 --> 00:26:40,051 Shanan called us in 546 00:26:40,053 --> 00:26:43,087 'cause she's afraid that her sister may be in danger. 547 00:26:43,089 --> 00:26:44,622 So with that, I'm gonna ask Amy 548 00:26:44,624 --> 00:26:46,492 to tell us a little bit about her walk. 549 00:26:48,762 --> 00:26:54,362 So, when I was first upstairs, I met an elderly gentleman, 550 00:26:54,364 --> 00:26:58,097 and he feels very lonely and very sad. 551 00:26:58,099 --> 00:27:02,434 And basically, he's a little scattered, 552 00:27:02,436 --> 00:27:07,306 but what he does mostly is he'll wander around, 553 00:27:07,308 --> 00:27:09,408 and then he'll, like, settle in a room. 554 00:27:09,410 --> 00:27:12,640 So if you go into that room and he's in there, 555 00:27:12,642 --> 00:27:14,609 you'll feel sick, 556 00:27:14,611 --> 00:27:18,948 you'll feel depressed, you'll feel lonely. 557 00:27:21,017 --> 00:27:22,084 Yeah, my moods change. 558 00:27:22,086 --> 00:27:25,089 I feel sadness for no reason. 559 00:27:25,091 --> 00:27:26,758 I get angry for no reason. 560 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,429 There are days when I go to work, 561 00:27:30,431 --> 00:27:34,569 and I would just have, like, the worst attitude. 562 00:27:34,571 --> 00:27:36,906 But then, after I'm there for a while, 563 00:27:36,908 --> 00:27:37,939 then it goes away. 564 00:27:37,941 --> 00:27:42,212 Shanan: Since I have been here, I've totally changed. 565 00:27:42,214 --> 00:27:46,886 I can be very mean sometimes, and that's not my character. 566 00:27:48,022 --> 00:27:50,892 Okay. 567 00:27:50,894 --> 00:27:53,595 There was another person who, 568 00:27:53,597 --> 00:27:55,897 as soon as I was heading up the stairs, 569 00:27:55,899 --> 00:27:57,633 he told me to get the "F" out. 570 00:27:57,635 --> 00:28:00,770 He was very secretive. 571 00:28:00,772 --> 00:28:05,446 He's very capable of interaction on a physical level. 572 00:28:05,448 --> 00:28:09,187 People definitely see this guy. 573 00:28:09,189 --> 00:28:16,293 I saw this person push himself out of his skin, 574 00:28:16,295 --> 00:28:21,299 and then he was just like a skeleton with muscle. 575 00:28:21,301 --> 00:28:26,144 And I saw him standing by the side of a child's bed. 576 00:28:26,146 --> 00:28:29,147 - [Crying] - That's my son. 577 00:28:29,149 --> 00:28:32,983 He told me somebody sits by his bed. 578 00:28:32,985 --> 00:28:36,385 Steve: Did you believe him when he told you? 579 00:28:36,387 --> 00:28:40,256 No. I didn't. 580 00:28:42,026 --> 00:28:43,227 Need a minute? 581 00:28:43,229 --> 00:28:45,360 - [Clears throat] - I'm fine. 582 00:28:46,997 --> 00:28:49,099 This man's very intelligent, 583 00:28:49,101 --> 00:28:52,466 very manipulative, very cunning. 584 00:28:52,468 --> 00:28:55,503 He can cause the living to have hallucinations. 585 00:28:55,505 --> 00:28:57,806 He's so good at this 586 00:28:57,808 --> 00:29:02,442 that there was a lot of confusion on this walk for me, 587 00:29:02,444 --> 00:29:04,680 because I didn't know what was the truth. 588 00:29:04,682 --> 00:29:07,915 Was he making me hallucinate? 589 00:29:07,917 --> 00:29:10,487 These girls talk about hallucinations, both of them. 590 00:29:10,489 --> 00:29:12,755 Mm-hmm. 591 00:29:12,757 --> 00:29:15,993 Can you tell Amy about that incident 592 00:29:15,995 --> 00:29:17,364 down here on the couch? 593 00:29:20,300 --> 00:29:25,706 These three images just came to me, one after another. 594 00:29:25,708 --> 00:29:28,842 The first image is being the gladiator type. 595 00:29:28,844 --> 00:29:30,576 Mm-hmm. 596 00:29:30,578 --> 00:29:32,944 The second was like an American Indian. 597 00:29:32,946 --> 00:29:37,083 And then the third one, it was just a white something. 598 00:29:37,085 --> 00:29:38,353 I couldn't tell, 599 00:29:38,355 --> 00:29:41,723 but I was the most threatened by the last one, 600 00:29:41,725 --> 00:29:43,824 and it terrified me so bad. 601 00:29:43,826 --> 00:29:45,692 Steve: You had mentioned to me 602 00:29:45,694 --> 00:29:48,429 you get those images when your eyes are shut, right? 603 00:29:48,431 --> 00:29:52,566 Yeah. They're like ungodly creatures. 604 00:29:52,568 --> 00:29:55,268 They scare me so bad. 605 00:29:55,270 --> 00:29:57,203 Now, you mentioned this guy can be physical, right? 606 00:29:57,205 --> 00:29:57,906 Yes. 607 00:29:58,408 --> 00:30:01,373 They got something really strange going on in this house. 608 00:30:01,475 --> 00:30:05,143 They have coins getting thrown at them out of nowhere. 609 00:30:05,145 --> 00:30:05,977 I've seen it. 610 00:30:05,979 --> 00:30:08,613 Everyone is in this area. 611 00:30:08,615 --> 00:30:11,517 Everyone is sitting around, watching television. 612 00:30:11,519 --> 00:30:12,986 No one's moving. 613 00:30:12,988 --> 00:30:14,722 Next thing you know, 614 00:30:14,724 --> 00:30:18,358 my son is, like, saying "ow," 615 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,395 and then a coin drops to the floor. 616 00:30:22,397 --> 00:30:25,932 They're in physical sight of me. 617 00:30:25,934 --> 00:30:28,499 I know that neither one of them could do this. 618 00:30:31,234 --> 00:30:32,669 Steve: And the reason you left here 619 00:30:32,671 --> 00:30:34,706 is because your daughter got hit with a brush. 620 00:30:34,708 --> 00:30:36,306 Yes. 621 00:30:36,308 --> 00:30:38,074 Down here, in the back. 622 00:30:38,076 --> 00:30:39,242 And they don't keep any brushes down here. 623 00:30:39,244 --> 00:30:41,980 Mm-hmm. Okay. 624 00:30:41,982 --> 00:30:44,150 Is he capable of doing anything like that? 625 00:30:44,152 --> 00:30:47,021 Yeah. He's able to do that. 626 00:30:48,391 --> 00:30:52,064 Now, did you get any sense of who this guy might have been 627 00:30:52,066 --> 00:30:53,329 when he was alive? 628 00:30:53,331 --> 00:30:57,702 What I got was that he was directly connected 629 00:30:57,704 --> 00:30:59,502 to this property. 630 00:30:59,504 --> 00:31:01,638 He was, like, showing himself 631 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,445 to be, like, extremely tall, very thin. 632 00:31:04,447 --> 00:31:06,777 You could really see his bones. 633 00:31:06,779 --> 00:31:09,616 I got that he was a very intimidating guy. 634 00:31:09,618 --> 00:31:12,952 I think it was because he was really, really smart, 635 00:31:12,954 --> 00:31:15,685 very commanding, and people were very afraid of him. 636 00:31:15,687 --> 00:31:21,058 But he's actually very sad, and after quite some time, 637 00:31:21,060 --> 00:31:24,827 I got that he did lose a child and that it was a son. 638 00:31:24,829 --> 00:31:28,095 After some time of being very sad, 639 00:31:28,097 --> 00:31:32,370 became very angry, he denounced God. 640 00:31:33,904 --> 00:31:36,570 Now, back in 1860, 641 00:31:36,572 --> 00:31:38,005 this property was acquired by a guy 642 00:31:38,007 --> 00:31:39,506 that I think she may be talking about, 643 00:31:39,508 --> 00:31:40,607 is this guy B.W. Alexander. 644 00:31:40,609 --> 00:31:44,009 1861, he moved his entire family here, 645 00:31:44,011 --> 00:31:46,177 along with his 23 slaves. 646 00:31:48,312 --> 00:31:50,979 Now, you said this guy was tough, smart, 647 00:31:50,981 --> 00:31:52,514 and intimidated people. 648 00:31:52,516 --> 00:31:55,249 Well, Alexander was a pretty powerful man 649 00:31:55,251 --> 00:31:56,750 in this neighborhood. 650 00:31:56,752 --> 00:31:59,853 This is a guy that went from rags to riches. 651 00:31:59,855 --> 00:32:03,353 He was an indentured servant at one point as a kid, 652 00:32:03,355 --> 00:32:07,150 ran away, and became a self-made millionaire. 653 00:32:07,152 --> 00:32:08,820 You said he lost a son. 654 00:32:08,822 --> 00:32:09,389 Right. 655 00:32:09,391 --> 00:32:11,557 Now, this guy had 13 children altogether. 656 00:32:11,759 --> 00:32:15,592 Six of them died. 657 00:32:15,594 --> 00:32:17,559 Four of them were boys. 658 00:32:20,129 --> 00:32:21,628 You said he was a big guy, 659 00:32:21,630 --> 00:32:23,627 but then you said he was skinny. 660 00:32:23,629 --> 00:32:24,428 Mm-hmm. 661 00:32:24,430 --> 00:32:27,932 He died of a thing called marasmus... malnutrition. 662 00:32:27,934 --> 00:32:29,334 Oh. 663 00:32:29,336 --> 00:32:31,135 He died at the age of 79. 664 00:32:31,137 --> 00:32:32,870 He was a big guy, 665 00:32:32,872 --> 00:32:35,707 but by the time he died, he was pretty emaciated. 666 00:32:35,709 --> 00:32:40,012 I actually have a picture of B.W. Alexander right here. 667 00:32:42,885 --> 00:32:45,454 So, I don't know if this is the guy you might have ran into. 668 00:32:45,456 --> 00:32:47,888 Uh... No. 669 00:32:47,890 --> 00:32:52,862 But I did do a sketch of the tall, thin man I encountered. 670 00:32:59,572 --> 00:33:01,273 Well, that ain't him. 671 00:33:01,275 --> 00:33:02,673 No. 672 00:33:11,082 --> 00:33:13,184 [Voice breaking]: No. 673 00:33:15,256 --> 00:33:19,293 You think it's somebody you might know? 674 00:33:19,295 --> 00:33:22,493 Well, I didn't even think about this until she said something, 675 00:33:22,495 --> 00:33:25,129 but my son... a long time ago, 676 00:33:25,131 --> 00:33:28,031 he used to tell me that somebody used to sit by his bed. 677 00:33:28,033 --> 00:33:31,234 And he told me that he looked like daddy, 678 00:33:31,236 --> 00:33:33,535 like his father. 679 00:33:33,537 --> 00:33:34,970 His father is alive, 680 00:33:34,972 --> 00:33:37,904 and he looks something like him. 681 00:33:37,906 --> 00:33:41,477 So he shows himself to be something 682 00:33:41,479 --> 00:33:43,781 that he would be comfortable with. 683 00:33:43,783 --> 00:33:46,849 Actually, I think he might be showing himself like that 684 00:33:46,851 --> 00:33:48,485 to warn the living here, 685 00:33:48,487 --> 00:33:51,522 because the other thing I got 686 00:33:51,524 --> 00:33:55,658 was these childlike entities, 687 00:33:55,660 --> 00:34:00,931 and the guy I was talking to became very afraid. 688 00:34:00,933 --> 00:34:04,904 He said that these were evil things. 689 00:34:04,906 --> 00:34:07,741 I went looking for them, 690 00:34:07,743 --> 00:34:11,177 and I ended up in the basement, 691 00:34:11,179 --> 00:34:16,212 where I encountered this other guy. 692 00:34:16,214 --> 00:34:21,188 And the children called him a headmaster, 693 00:34:21,190 --> 00:34:26,091 and this male was definitely abusive to these children. 694 00:34:26,093 --> 00:34:29,562 It made me extremely uncomfortable. 695 00:34:29,564 --> 00:34:32,897 I got that this was pretty far back, like 1860s. 696 00:34:32,899 --> 00:34:36,804 You say "headmaster," and then you're going back in time. 697 00:34:36,806 --> 00:34:38,171 There might have been slave kids 698 00:34:38,273 --> 00:34:39,570 and this guy was mistreating them. 699 00:34:39,572 --> 00:34:41,273 Instead of "headmaster," but "master." 700 00:34:41,275 --> 00:34:43,074 I don't know, 701 00:34:43,076 --> 00:34:45,439 but the living might see them 702 00:34:45,441 --> 00:34:47,342 kind of out of the corner of their eyes. 703 00:34:47,344 --> 00:34:49,744 They cause a lot of ruckus. 704 00:34:49,746 --> 00:34:54,113 You'll hear a lot of, like, movement or sound. 705 00:34:54,115 --> 00:35:00,019 Also, they like to orchestrate, like, catastrophes. 706 00:35:00,021 --> 00:35:01,317 [Gasps] 707 00:35:01,319 --> 00:35:04,222 What do you mean by that? 708 00:35:04,224 --> 00:35:09,092 Well, I was seeing a lot of different scenarios 709 00:35:09,094 --> 00:35:12,596 that these kids were planning, 710 00:35:12,598 --> 00:35:17,466 and one of the things was something that I sketched. 711 00:35:17,468 --> 00:35:18,434 Okay. 712 00:35:26,078 --> 00:35:27,812 Oh [Bleep] 713 00:35:34,952 --> 00:35:36,285 I don't know if I want to show you this. 714 00:35:41,857 --> 00:35:43,958 Oh... 715 00:35:47,096 --> 00:35:49,327 [Voice breaking]: Are you kidding me right now? 716 00:36:05,294 --> 00:36:09,498 Amy: I was seeing a lot of different scenarios 717 00:36:09,500 --> 00:36:12,972 that these kids were planning, 718 00:36:12,974 --> 00:36:17,108 and one of the things was something that I sketched. 719 00:36:25,156 --> 00:36:27,022 Oh [Bleep] 720 00:36:28,658 --> 00:36:30,593 I don't even know if I want to show you this. 721 00:36:37,995 --> 00:36:39,162 Oh... 722 00:36:40,799 --> 00:36:44,702 [Voice breaking]: Are you kidding me right now? 723 00:36:44,704 --> 00:36:48,874 This is what I was afraid of. 724 00:36:52,442 --> 00:36:54,109 I'm a pretty skeptical guy, 725 00:36:54,111 --> 00:36:56,881 but when Amy comes up with things like this, 726 00:36:56,883 --> 00:36:58,615 there's just no explanation. 727 00:37:01,652 --> 00:37:02,987 [Sighs] 728 00:37:06,324 --> 00:37:12,196 That's almost exactly how I got hurt here. 729 00:37:13,531 --> 00:37:16,765 They already hurt you? 730 00:37:18,202 --> 00:37:19,936 - God, stop it. - [Sniffles] 731 00:37:19,938 --> 00:37:25,377 I was standing on the landing at the top of the stairs, 732 00:37:25,379 --> 00:37:28,415 and then I felt a push, 733 00:37:28,417 --> 00:37:35,492 and I fell so hard that I tumbled, like, completely, 734 00:37:35,494 --> 00:37:38,264 and I hit the door with my back and my head, 735 00:37:38,266 --> 00:37:39,466 and I flew forward. 736 00:37:39,468 --> 00:37:41,902 Ohh. 737 00:37:41,904 --> 00:37:44,709 I fractured my elbow. 738 00:37:44,711 --> 00:37:46,077 That's how hard I fell. 739 00:37:46,079 --> 00:37:48,313 I'm shocked that you're still here. 740 00:37:51,983 --> 00:37:56,188 I can tell you one thing is that these kids... 741 00:37:56,190 --> 00:37:57,688 they're trying to reorganize 742 00:37:57,690 --> 00:38:01,889 and figure out a better way to make you hurt yourself. 743 00:38:03,091 --> 00:38:06,924 They're not giving up. 744 00:38:06,926 --> 00:38:09,027 So... 745 00:38:15,201 --> 00:38:18,569 This is what I think is going on here. 746 00:38:18,571 --> 00:38:22,305 The male that I encountered while he was alive 747 00:38:22,307 --> 00:38:25,677 probably had a fractured sense of self, 748 00:38:25,679 --> 00:38:29,983 possibly having multiple personalities, 749 00:38:29,985 --> 00:38:35,892 and when he died, they kind of separated, 750 00:38:35,894 --> 00:38:39,398 creating many different entities. 751 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,137 So, if I'm reading you right, 752 00:38:42,139 --> 00:38:45,976 is the headmaster and the tall guy the same person but split? 753 00:38:46,078 --> 00:38:48,146 I think so, yes. I do. 754 00:38:48,148 --> 00:38:50,482 I think it's two aspects of this guy. 755 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,491 Even the elderly man could also be part of him. 756 00:38:57,493 --> 00:39:02,130 The thing is, is he'll do anything to make you leave, 757 00:39:02,132 --> 00:39:04,396 even if it is horrifying. 758 00:39:04,398 --> 00:39:10,734 But what he was telling me was that he was doing these things 759 00:39:10,736 --> 00:39:13,469 to protect the families here... 760 00:39:13,471 --> 00:39:15,205 What? 761 00:39:15,507 --> 00:39:19,076 Because he knew that these children 762 00:39:19,078 --> 00:39:24,516 are here who mean big, big harm. 763 00:39:27,355 --> 00:39:33,094 So, for him to appear as your son's father makes sense, 764 00:39:33,096 --> 00:39:39,867 because he's trying in his warped way to be the protector. 765 00:39:39,869 --> 00:39:44,173 But, you know, there being living children here 766 00:39:44,175 --> 00:39:48,341 is not an option right now, as you are aware. 767 00:39:50,709 --> 00:39:54,709 It's not a good place for living people in general, 768 00:39:54,711 --> 00:39:56,544 but very much children. 769 00:40:06,221 --> 00:40:09,088 Well, Shanan, it's very good 770 00:40:09,090 --> 00:40:10,755 that you moved the kids out of here, 771 00:40:10,757 --> 00:40:14,925 and it's even better that you called us in, all right? 772 00:40:14,927 --> 00:40:16,827 You weren't over-reacting. 773 00:40:16,829 --> 00:40:19,660 Obviously, your sister was in danger. 774 00:40:19,662 --> 00:40:23,964 The big question is, can she stay here safely? 775 00:40:26,869 --> 00:40:29,806 For that, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy. 776 00:40:31,276 --> 00:40:38,182 Initially, I was thinking about an exorcism. 777 00:40:41,654 --> 00:40:43,288 But since he's trying to make up 778 00:40:43,290 --> 00:40:45,456 for the evil he's done in the past 779 00:40:45,458 --> 00:40:46,990 and protect you from these things here, 780 00:40:47,592 --> 00:40:49,958 I want to try something else first. 781 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:54,265 So you need to bring in a chaos magician. 782 00:40:54,267 --> 00:40:58,067 A chaos magician uses anything from religion, science, 783 00:40:58,069 --> 00:41:01,737 to cultural traditions to clear an area of the dead. 784 00:41:01,739 --> 00:41:03,271 There's no set formula, 785 00:41:03,273 --> 00:41:05,239 as they work on a case-by-case basis, 786 00:41:05,241 --> 00:41:06,406 but when they're done, 787 00:41:06,408 --> 00:41:09,175 Krystal's home should be free of the dead. 788 00:41:09,977 --> 00:41:12,144 So, everything would be cleared out, then? 789 00:41:12,146 --> 00:41:13,312 Yes. 790 00:41:13,614 --> 00:41:14,979 Including the kids? 791 00:41:14,981 --> 00:41:16,845 Yeah. 792 00:41:17,347 --> 00:41:22,416 But I do have a concern for you being here in the meantime, 793 00:41:22,418 --> 00:41:27,586 because they're going to feel extremely threatened 794 00:41:27,588 --> 00:41:31,188 and very unhappy. 795 00:41:31,190 --> 00:41:32,889 So basically you're telling us 796 00:41:32,891 --> 00:41:36,226 she should go stay someplace else till she gets this guy in. 797 00:41:36,228 --> 00:41:38,526 I think you should, yes. 798 00:41:38,528 --> 00:41:43,095 Would you be able to swing that? 799 00:41:43,097 --> 00:41:44,730 Definitely. 800 00:41:44,732 --> 00:41:46,264 You don't have to worry about that. 801 00:41:46,266 --> 00:41:50,170 I just wish I could get it started, like, tonight. 802 00:41:50,172 --> 00:41:52,940 I will call him. 803 00:41:55,912 --> 00:41:58,114 Amy: I'm concerned for Krystal, 804 00:41:58,116 --> 00:41:59,948 as the entities within this house 805 00:41:59,950 --> 00:42:02,916 pose a very real physical danger. 806 00:42:02,918 --> 00:42:05,389 But I believe that if she follows my advice, 807 00:42:05,391 --> 00:42:06,457 she'll remain safe 808 00:42:06,459 --> 00:42:08,426 and be able to lead a peaceful life 809 00:42:08,428 --> 00:42:10,363 in the home she loves so much. 810 00:42:13,964 --> 00:42:16,964 _ 811 00:42:16,965 --> 00:42:19,265 - Synced and corrected by Retrojex - - www.addic7ed.com - 812 00:42:19,315 --> 00:42:23,865 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 59513

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