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They orchestrate very violent, bad things.
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Something's trying to harm my child.
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He causes physical pain.
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Did you fall down the whole flight?
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I was pushed.
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It was able to manipulate
people's minds like puppets.
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Out of 13 children, only 6
of them lived to adulthood.
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These kids... they're from hell.
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I don't think this place
is good for anybody.
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You're mine. You can't escape.
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My name is Amy Allan.
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- [Crying]
- What's happening?
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I see dead people.
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It seems like a devil.
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I speak to dead people.
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He's pissed off.
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And they speak to me.
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I felt real fear.
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But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.
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I think she's being murdered.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
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I'm a retired New York
City homicide detective.
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Serial killer pops in my head.
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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[Voice breaking]: Nobody believes me.
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It's my job to reveal them.
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- Do you think there's still bodies there?
- I do.
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But Steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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Until the very end.
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You got problems. I got news for you.
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When we uncover if it's
safe for you to stay...
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This is our house, whether
they like it or not.
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Or time to get out.
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This is their house, the house of the dead.
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- Synced and corrected by Retrojex -
- www.addic7ed.com -
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I'm in St. Louis, Missouri.
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A woman named Shanan practically
begged us to come out here.
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She told me she lived in a
house that had a ton of activity.
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A few months ago, she had enough.
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She picked up her four kids
and moved the hell out of there.
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Problem is, her sister refuses to leave.
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She's there all alone,
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and Shanan thinks that
her life is in danger.
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Matthew: Before Amy arrives,
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I look for anything that
might influence her findings.
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This house has a lot of family photos.
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Once they're covered or removed,
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the location will be
ready for tonight's walk.
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Okay.
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[Sighs]
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Someone here... and I think
it's this tall, scary man...
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he's able to manipulate the living body,
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like he can cause
physical pain in the body.
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He's a real... Freak.
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[Sighs]
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[Grunts]
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What's wrong?
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He is pretty [Bleep] powerful.
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Eh, I'm concerned...
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Steve: Shanan, you sounded
pretty upset on the phone.
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- Yes.
- Okay.
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So why don't you give me
an idea of what's going on?
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Three years ago,
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me and my children moved
in the home with my sister,
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and little things just started happening...
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noises, footsteps,
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and then everything just
started to get physical.
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Okay, what happened?
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Hailey, my 10-year-old,
was hit with an object.
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Is this a picture of them?
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Yes.
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- And that's her?
- Yes.
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- This one right here?
- In the purple.
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This brush came from nowhere
and just hit her in the back.
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And you witnessed this?
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We all witnessed it.
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After that, I couldn't take any more.
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It terrified me,
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because something's
trying to harm my child.
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That was the last straw.
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I just told my sister I
cannot put up with this.
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I will not.
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That's when you were
like, "I'm out of here."
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Yes.
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You're picking on a
10-year-old little girl?
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I mean, that pisses me
off just thinking about it.
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Right. That's why I called you guys.
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Since we have moved out,
my sister is in more danger.
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It's gotten worse.
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She's been pushed down stairs.
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Is she all right?
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She was hurt.
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Like, she had a cast on for weeks.
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What do you think's going on?
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It might be targeting her,
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and I'm worried about
her living here alone.
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Okay.
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Amy: This tall guy...
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he's able to interact like a living person.
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So, I did see something
with him and a child.
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He'll come out of the dark,
and he takes off his skin...
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Like reaching for the kid,
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and the kid's all, like, scared.
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Ugh.
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[Breathes deeply]
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The guy... he's [Bleep] pissed.
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He says, "get the [Bleep] out."
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Okay, so what's going on in here?
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This might sound strange,
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but we have all been sitting in this room,
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watching television,
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and coins would fly out
of nowhere and hit you.
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Like quarters, dimes, that type of thing?
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Right.
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Are you sure it's not the kids
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playing around with each other?
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Absolutely not.
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And why do you say that?
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Because we're all together,
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and I would be able to see
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if someone physically
threw something at someone.
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That is strange.
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Yes.
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Okay. Anything else down here?
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This is one thing
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that really makes me emotional to this day.
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I am sitting here.
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As I look toward this way,
apparitions came to me,
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one after the other, like a parade,
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like they were trying to get to me.
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Now, describe the apparitions.
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The first one, it was like a gladiator.
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After the gladiator,
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there was like a...
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he was like an Indian,
like an American Indian.
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And then there was another one.
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It was just a white, like, tall, long mist.
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I'm shaking right now. I'm sorry.
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No, it's okay. I can see that.
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Yeah. I'm shaking because
I'm just remembering this.
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And I was crying profusely.
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I have to ask, were you
cocktailing that night
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- or anything like that?
- No, no.
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Were you in and out of dreaming maybe?
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No. I was alert.
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Now, I know you experienced this.
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Now your sister's here alone.
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You worried about her going
through that by herself?
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Yes, I do,
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because I just need her to realize
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what's actually going on.
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It's not a game.
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It's not.
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Amy: That guy is here.
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Matthew: Who?
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The tall one.
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Do you know if he
interacts with the living?
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- Oh, yeah, yeah.
- How?
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I would think that the
living would see him.
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He's able to manipulate
people's minds like puppets
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and cause them to hallucinate.
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Don't know what they're seeing.
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Are you worried he might be manipulating
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what you're perceiving?
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I am.
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And there is a whole bunch of kids.
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And what are they doing?
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They make a lot of ruckus.
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They're loud. They're annoying.
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They're creepy. You hear them.
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One weird thing about this guy...
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he doesn't like them little things.
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--He thinks that they're from hell.
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Steve: So, Hailey, I
was talking to mom today,
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and she told me about an
incident that happened to you
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with the hairbrush.
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Yeah.
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Can you tell me what happened?
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We were on our way to go to school,
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and we were all by the front door.
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And then a push... it came
and hit me on the side.
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And then I thought it was my brother,
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and I was yelling at him
and getting mad at him.
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And then my teacher...
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she said it wasn't him
because he was behind me.
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Okay, did it hit you hard?
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Yeah.
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Did you get scared when that happened?
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Yeah.
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So, are you worried about your aunt?
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She's scared, too.
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- But she won't tell you?
- No.
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Now, would you come back to live here
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if we could figure out what's going on?
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Mm... No.
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Okay.
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These kids orchestrate really
very, very violent, bad things.
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They're malicious.
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I got to get out of here.
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Really weird, and I don't like it.
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I don't think this place is good for kids.
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I don't think this [Bleep]
place is good for anybody.
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Steve: Well, Krystal, it's
good to finally talk with you.
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I spoke with your sister.
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I spoke with some other family members.
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They all want you out of here.
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Yeah.
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They're all gone.
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And they feel it's unsafe for you here.
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I got to ask you, why are you staying?
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What's the draw to the
house that you won't leave?
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I've put so much time into this house.
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It took me two years to make it livable.
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How long ago did you buy it?
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It's been about six years now.
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Now, do you know any
history about the house?
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No.
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Your sister mentioned to me
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that since she's moved out with the kids
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that activity's gotten
worse. Is that right?
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Yes. I definitely think
it's gotten a lot worse
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since she's been gone.
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It's like everything's
being directed at one person
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instead of six. There were six of us.
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Okay. How is that affecting you?
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I just don't feel like myself.
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You know, sometimes I'm very moody.
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Sometimes I'm very
angry, just for no reason,
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or depressed.
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When you're away from the house
for a day or two, let's say,
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you feel better?
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Yeah.
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Amy: There is this
older guy, and he's sick.
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He... you feel it.
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He died here.
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He's very depressed,
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very, very, very lonely.
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He feels like he was just
abandoned and left to die.
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He picks a spot,
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and he stays there for a while.
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One day this room will be bad,
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and then like next week,
it will be downstairs.
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Bad?
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Yeah. The person will be...
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they spend time in there,
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they'll feel really, really depressed.
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So, what's going on in here?
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I have experienced a lot
of scary things in here,
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and it keeps me from being able to sleep.
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When I close my eyes, I
see really horrible images.
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So, what do these images look like?
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In each instance, they're black,
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like really, really
black, like burned almost.
266
00:12:19,959 --> 00:12:21,524
Now, do you watch horror movies at night?
267
00:12:21,526 --> 00:12:22,525
No, not at night.
268
00:12:22,527 --> 00:12:24,228
And I've never seen anything
269
00:12:24,230 --> 00:12:26,932
like these things that I
see when I close my eyes.
270
00:12:26,934 --> 00:12:28,567
What else is going on up in here?
271
00:12:28,569 --> 00:12:30,970
Oh, my bed shakes.
272
00:12:30,972 --> 00:12:33,510
The first time it happened, I
thought it was an earthquake,
273
00:12:33,512 --> 00:12:35,411
but nothing else was shaking but the bed.
274
00:12:35,413 --> 00:12:38,013
Show me how it shook, how
hard. What are we talking about?
275
00:12:38,015 --> 00:12:39,714
Well, I was kind of sitting like this,
276
00:12:39,716 --> 00:12:41,749
and then I just started moving like this,
277
00:12:41,751 --> 00:12:44,951
like somebody was, like, on the other end,
278
00:12:44,953 --> 00:12:46,389
like pushing it.
279
00:12:46,691 --> 00:12:48,358
I know you have a small dog.
280
00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,327
- Any other big animals?
- No.
281
00:12:50,329 --> 00:12:52,796
Is it heavy enough that if
somebody was pushing on the bed,
282
00:12:52,798 --> 00:12:54,496
it would have to be an
adult, or could a kid do it?
283
00:12:54,498 --> 00:12:56,230
It would definitely have to be an adult.
284
00:12:56,232 --> 00:12:58,400
How the hell are you sleeping in here?
285
00:12:58,402 --> 00:13:00,268
I really don't sleep.
286
00:13:00,270 --> 00:13:01,469
That's not good.
287
00:13:01,871 --> 00:13:03,069
That's gonna take its toll eventually.
288
00:13:03,071 --> 00:13:04,834
Mm-hmm. It already has.
289
00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:14,245
Amy: This tall, scary man... he does stuff.
290
00:13:14,247 --> 00:13:15,478
You know what I'm saying?
291
00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,246
He's super smart.
292
00:13:17,248 --> 00:13:19,116
He can manipulate the body.
293
00:13:19,118 --> 00:13:20,951
He's a very physical presence.
294
00:13:20,953 --> 00:13:25,354
He's able to interact like a living person.
295
00:13:25,356 --> 00:13:28,624
He's like, "I'm the least of the worries."
296
00:13:28,626 --> 00:13:31,959
No, you're a problem.
297
00:13:34,426 --> 00:13:37,990
He's, you know, kind of...
298
00:13:37,992 --> 00:13:40,360
Like torturing people
to get them out of here
299
00:13:40,362 --> 00:13:41,960
because of these kids.
300
00:13:41,962 --> 00:13:43,794
So he thinks he's helping the living
301
00:13:43,796 --> 00:13:46,568
to get them to leave here
before something happens to them?
302
00:13:46,570 --> 00:13:48,371
Yes, he does.
303
00:13:48,373 --> 00:13:51,307
He does believe that.
304
00:13:52,642 --> 00:13:55,176
Steve: We haven't talked
about why I'm really here.
305
00:13:55,178 --> 00:13:57,610
- The staircase.
- Krystal: Yeah.
306
00:14:01,617 --> 00:14:04,284
So, did you fall down the whole flight?
307
00:14:04,286 --> 00:14:05,517
The whole flight.
308
00:14:05,519 --> 00:14:08,452
I usually don't stand here very often,
309
00:14:08,454 --> 00:14:10,621
'cause it's really scary.
310
00:14:10,623 --> 00:14:12,122
Okay, take me through what happened.
311
00:14:12,124 --> 00:14:15,325
So, basically, I just walked up the steps,
312
00:14:15,327 --> 00:14:20,997
and then, all of a sudden,
I... fell down the stairs.
313
00:14:20,999 --> 00:14:24,000
And I apparently did a cartwheel.
314
00:14:24,002 --> 00:14:26,202
You can even see where
the bottom of my shoe
315
00:14:26,204 --> 00:14:27,704
made a mark on the wall.
316
00:14:27,706 --> 00:14:32,510
And then I fractured my elbow
at the bottom of the stairs.
317
00:14:32,512 --> 00:14:34,445
How do you think you fell?
318
00:14:34,447 --> 00:14:36,846
It's hard for me to say this,
319
00:14:36,848 --> 00:14:38,749
but I think that I was pushed...
320
00:14:40,955 --> 00:14:43,054
because I fell really hard.
321
00:14:43,056 --> 00:14:44,255
I'm really concerned for you.
322
00:14:44,257 --> 00:14:46,428
- You're here alone.
- Yeah.
323
00:14:46,430 --> 00:14:48,431
And you're not sleeping.
324
00:14:48,433 --> 00:14:49,734
You're almost killed.
325
00:14:49,736 --> 00:14:50,935
That would have killed most people.
326
00:14:50,937 --> 00:14:54,271
Yeah. One of the kids
probably wouldn't have made it.
327
00:14:58,382 --> 00:15:01,487
These little kids that are here...
328
00:15:01,489 --> 00:15:04,325
they were not right.
329
00:15:04,327 --> 00:15:08,433
They weren't normal when they were alive,
330
00:15:08,435 --> 00:15:14,272
and I think that they...
331
00:15:14,274 --> 00:15:17,411
are really damaged now.
332
00:15:23,886 --> 00:15:26,787
What do these kids do?
333
00:15:26,789 --> 00:15:30,295
They make big things happen...
334
00:15:30,297 --> 00:15:31,894
over time.
335
00:15:31,896 --> 00:15:38,332
They cause really very,
very violent, bad things...
336
00:15:38,334 --> 00:15:40,034
to happen.
337
00:15:40,036 --> 00:15:46,178
"Catastrophe" is the word
that I hear being used.
338
00:15:47,546 --> 00:15:48,713
I don't like this.
339
00:15:48,715 --> 00:15:50,382
I don't like this.
340
00:16:04,637 --> 00:16:06,472
Usually, clients know a little bit
341
00:16:06,474 --> 00:16:08,207
about the history of their property.
342
00:16:08,209 --> 00:16:10,611
Krystal doesn't have a clue.
343
00:16:10,613 --> 00:16:12,148
So I started from the beginning
344
00:16:12,150 --> 00:16:14,546
and tracked down the
original owner of the land,
345
00:16:14,548 --> 00:16:15,881
a guy named B.W. Alexander.
346
00:16:15,883 --> 00:16:18,351
And when I reached out
to one of his descendants,
347
00:16:18,353 --> 00:16:20,453
she said we definitely needed to talk.
348
00:16:21,854 --> 00:16:24,954
_
349
00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,220
Marcia, thanks for meeting with me.
I appreciate that.
350
00:16:29,222 --> 00:16:32,621
Now, you're a descendant of B.W. Alexander.
351
00:16:32,723 --> 00:16:35,789
Basil William Alexander was
my third great grandfather.
352
00:16:35,791 --> 00:16:37,224
What can you tell me about him?
353
00:16:37,326 --> 00:16:39,059
He was a self-made man.
354
00:16:39,061 --> 00:16:41,059
He actually as a young man
355
00:16:41,361 --> 00:16:43,627
was indentured out to a bricklayer
356
00:16:43,629 --> 00:16:46,061
and worked in servant conditions,
357
00:16:46,063 --> 00:16:49,232
worked his way up, got
out of that situation,
358
00:16:49,234 --> 00:16:51,101
and started making his own business
359
00:16:51,103 --> 00:16:54,166
and making a name for himself
and made a lot of money.
360
00:16:54,168 --> 00:16:57,369
He ended up being on the board of directors
361
00:16:57,371 --> 00:16:59,104
of several banks in town,
362
00:16:59,206 --> 00:17:02,637
and he really grew to be
quite an influential man.
363
00:17:02,639 --> 00:17:05,644
This is a picture of him
when he was in his heyday.
364
00:17:05,646 --> 00:17:06,779
Quite a prominent man.
365
00:17:06,781 --> 00:17:08,379
He's a big guy.
366
00:17:08,381 --> 00:17:10,514
Even though this obviously looks like
367
00:17:10,516 --> 00:17:12,482
he's a healthy, well-fed man,
368
00:17:12,984 --> 00:17:15,716
death records show when
he finally died at age 79,
369
00:17:15,718 --> 00:17:18,548
he actually died of marasmus,
which is malnutrition.
370
00:17:18,550 --> 00:17:22,519
He wasted away to nothing.
371
00:17:28,658 --> 00:17:33,730
Amy: This tall, scary man.
372
00:17:33,732 --> 00:17:35,599
I wish he would tell me more
373
00:17:35,601 --> 00:17:38,237
about what, like, what his deal was
374
00:17:38,239 --> 00:17:40,239
when he was alive and stuff.
375
00:17:40,241 --> 00:17:41,507
Can you describe him?
376
00:17:41,509 --> 00:17:44,577
He's very thin. He's very lanky.
377
00:17:44,579 --> 00:17:49,111
When he was alive,
like, he still was tough,
378
00:17:49,113 --> 00:17:51,814
like people were afraid of him anyways.
379
00:17:51,816 --> 00:17:56,915
You know, I don't think
he was such a great person
380
00:17:56,917 --> 00:17:58,719
when he was alive, you know?
381
00:17:58,721 --> 00:18:04,726
I think he, you know, kind
of did maybe shady things,
382
00:18:04,728 --> 00:18:06,397
you know, to make money, you know?
383
00:18:06,399 --> 00:18:09,668
He's super smart.
384
00:18:09,670 --> 00:18:15,274
Very smart person and knows
how to, you know, work it.
385
00:18:15,276 --> 00:18:20,178
When I started to get
in there to see things,
386
00:18:20,180 --> 00:18:25,384
he got really sad and was
kind of like vulnerable.
387
00:18:25,386 --> 00:18:26,486
He didn't like that.
388
00:18:26,488 --> 00:18:29,322
But now he's very angry.
389
00:18:29,324 --> 00:18:30,723
[Bell tolls]
390
00:18:30,725 --> 00:18:31,591
During the research,
391
00:18:31,593 --> 00:18:34,028
I found that B.W. was the original owner,
392
00:18:34,030 --> 00:18:36,699
bought the property I'm
investigating back in 1860.
393
00:18:36,701 --> 00:18:38,633
Marcia: 1860 is what we show.
394
00:18:38,635 --> 00:18:39,969
He bought 80 acres.
395
00:18:40,171 --> 00:18:42,506
We have a map here that shows his land.
396
00:18:42,508 --> 00:18:43,340
He had a home there.
397
00:18:43,342 --> 00:18:45,175
He had a rock quarry, a vineyard,
398
00:18:45,177 --> 00:18:46,777
and slaves quarters.
399
00:18:47,379 --> 00:18:49,682
Now, do you know how
many slaves he did have?
400
00:18:49,684 --> 00:18:52,283
Family records show that
during the civil war,
401
00:18:52,285 --> 00:18:53,985
he had up to 23 slaves.
402
00:18:53,987 --> 00:18:56,222
So it was families, you know, men, women,
403
00:18:56,224 --> 00:18:58,124
and, of course, their children.
404
00:18:58,126 --> 00:18:59,860
And, you know, if they died,
405
00:18:59,862 --> 00:19:01,430
they were buried on the property.
406
00:19:04,904 --> 00:19:08,511
Amy: The tall, scary man...
407
00:19:08,513 --> 00:19:15,322
he does not want me to seek these...
408
00:19:15,324 --> 00:19:18,526
Things out, you know? But...
409
00:19:18,528 --> 00:19:19,960
the children?
410
00:19:19,962 --> 00:19:21,029
Yeah. But then I'm like,
411
00:19:21,031 --> 00:19:25,829
"well, why don't you just tell
me, you know, what they are?
412
00:19:25,831 --> 00:19:29,365
And then we're good."
413
00:19:29,367 --> 00:19:32,063
The tall man doesn't
want me to know anything
414
00:19:32,065 --> 00:19:33,699
about the kids in the house,
415
00:19:33,701 --> 00:19:36,501
but I'm determined to
find out more about them.
416
00:19:36,503 --> 00:19:39,570
And something is telling
me to head to the basement.
417
00:19:43,274 --> 00:19:45,877
He definitely has a lot of control
418
00:19:45,879 --> 00:19:48,375
over the other dead people here.
419
00:19:48,377 --> 00:19:54,779
Somebody says something about bad kids...
420
00:19:54,781 --> 00:19:56,214
well, bad children.
421
00:19:56,216 --> 00:19:57,982
And then I'm hearing "headmaster."
422
00:19:58,184 --> 00:20:02,887
And then somebody's yelling about justice
423
00:20:02,889 --> 00:20:06,357
and, you know, doing what
needs to be done to them,
424
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,093
you know, that they're like [Bleep] demons,
425
00:20:10,095 --> 00:20:12,598
and, you know, they
don't have souls anyways.
426
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,035
I don't know what's going on here.
427
00:20:14,037 --> 00:20:16,337
This is getting [Bleep] weird, man.
428
00:20:18,374 --> 00:20:20,576
This is going pretty back,
429
00:20:20,578 --> 00:20:24,313
you know, like 1860s.
430
00:20:24,315 --> 00:20:27,985
I don't really want to
be down here anymore.
431
00:20:29,653 --> 00:20:31,253
Marcia, you mentioned on the phone
432
00:20:31,255 --> 00:20:33,355
that B.W. had some tragedy in his life.
433
00:20:33,357 --> 00:20:34,591
What were you talking about?
434
00:20:34,593 --> 00:20:37,331
A lot of people came in and out of his life
435
00:20:37,333 --> 00:20:38,898
and died sad deaths.
436
00:20:39,100 --> 00:20:42,068
He lost his first wife at a very young age.
437
00:20:42,070 --> 00:20:43,271
She was only 22.
438
00:20:43,273 --> 00:20:45,940
Out of his 13 children
that were born to him,
439
00:20:45,942 --> 00:20:48,140
only 6 of them lived to adulthood.
440
00:20:48,142 --> 00:20:51,112
Several of them died as young children.
441
00:20:51,114 --> 00:20:53,516
As a matter of fact, one year,
442
00:20:53,518 --> 00:20:56,920
he lost three children
within a week of each other.
443
00:20:56,922 --> 00:20:58,087
And do we know what they died of?
444
00:20:58,389 --> 00:20:59,657
Probably Scarlet fever.
445
00:20:59,659 --> 00:21:01,460
I don't know if I would have been
able to handle something like that.
446
00:21:01,462 --> 00:21:02,927
I can't imagine.
447
00:21:06,631 --> 00:21:10,601
Amy: This tall, scary man...
448
00:21:10,603 --> 00:21:14,905
I want to say that he lost a child.
449
00:21:14,907 --> 00:21:16,038
I think he lost a son.
450
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,776
He believes in heaven and hell and God,
451
00:21:19,778 --> 00:21:21,879
but he denounces them.
452
00:21:21,881 --> 00:21:24,849
He is very confusing.
453
00:21:24,851 --> 00:21:29,453
He might have been summoned to
do some kind of messed up stuff,
454
00:21:29,455 --> 00:21:32,091
'cause he's doing some pretty bad [Bleep]
455
00:21:47,362 --> 00:21:50,766
There's so much death associated
with my client's property,
456
00:21:50,768 --> 00:21:53,702
but I still need to know
if there's anything else.
457
00:21:53,704 --> 00:21:56,472
So I'm hitting the books
at the local library.
458
00:21:58,607 --> 00:21:59,875
Digging through old records,
459
00:21:59,877 --> 00:22:03,681
I uncover a murder/suicide
that happened in 1894,
460
00:22:04,283 --> 00:22:08,051
right across the street
from my client's house.
461
00:22:08,153 --> 00:22:09,051
I'm heading over to meet
462
00:22:09,053 --> 00:22:10,786
with the city's chief medical examiner
463
00:22:10,988 --> 00:22:12,786
so he can help me make sense of it all.
464
00:22:21,659 --> 00:22:22,759
Well, Dr. Graham, thanks for meeting me.
465
00:22:22,761 --> 00:22:23,960
I know you're a busy man.
466
00:22:24,662 --> 00:22:26,760
Now, what can you tell me
about this murder/suicide
467
00:22:26,762 --> 00:22:28,227
that happened across the street
468
00:22:28,229 --> 00:22:29,895
from the property I'm investigating?
469
00:22:29,897 --> 00:22:32,930
Basically, there was
a new house being built
470
00:22:32,932 --> 00:22:35,265
for a construction boss
or a carpenter boss.
471
00:22:35,367 --> 00:22:36,465
Okay.
472
00:22:36,467 --> 00:22:40,203
And he had fired one of his
workers a few days earlier,
473
00:22:40,205 --> 00:22:42,769
probably because of the
worker being a drinker.
474
00:22:42,771 --> 00:22:44,403
- That was a Mr. Stute.
- Okay.
475
00:22:45,005 --> 00:22:47,676
And so Mr. Stute thought
about it for a while
476
00:22:47,678 --> 00:22:49,279
and really got agitated,
477
00:22:49,281 --> 00:22:51,849
brought his double-barreled
shotgun to the work site.
478
00:22:51,851 --> 00:22:53,350
One of the following mornings,
479
00:22:53,352 --> 00:22:55,449
Mr. Wench, who was the carpenter boss,
480
00:22:55,651 --> 00:22:57,948
was on the second story
of this unfinished house.
481
00:22:58,050 --> 00:22:59,281
Okay.
482
00:22:59,283 --> 00:23:02,885
Mr. Stute came in and discharged one barrel
483
00:23:03,387 --> 00:23:06,054
of the double-barreled shotgun
484
00:23:06,056 --> 00:23:09,489
and looks like hit
Mr. Wench in the jaw area,
485
00:23:09,491 --> 00:23:11,089
and then up and out through the face.
486
00:23:11,091 --> 00:23:12,957
And, in fact, I've got a
copy of the newspaper article
487
00:23:12,959 --> 00:23:15,057
and one of the artist's renditions.
488
00:23:15,259 --> 00:23:16,857
Oh. Look at that.
489
00:23:16,859 --> 00:23:20,059
And then as soon as he did that,
490
00:23:20,061 --> 00:23:24,528
Mr. Stute put the stock
of the gun on the floor,
491
00:23:24,530 --> 00:23:27,297
leaned over it with the
muzzle against his belly,
492
00:23:27,299 --> 00:23:31,302
and discharged the second
barrel and took his own life.
493
00:23:31,304 --> 00:23:32,669
Wow.
494
00:23:32,671 --> 00:23:34,839
And I was able to locate the
original coroner's inquest
495
00:23:34,841 --> 00:23:35,874
for each of those deaths.
496
00:23:35,876 --> 00:23:36,876
You're kidding me.
497
00:23:36,878 --> 00:23:38,377
This is the original paperwork?
498
00:23:38,379 --> 00:23:40,746
This is the original paperwork from 1894.
499
00:23:44,947 --> 00:23:46,312
And as it turns out,
500
00:23:46,314 --> 00:23:48,579
Mr. stute did not die right away,
501
00:23:48,581 --> 00:23:51,181
but was taken to the old city hospital,
502
00:23:51,183 --> 00:23:54,983
where he was operated on
and died within a few hours.
503
00:23:57,218 --> 00:24:00,290
Amy: I would say that this is a busy area,
504
00:24:00,292 --> 00:24:03,624
and so I don't know
505
00:24:03,626 --> 00:24:09,627
if what I'm getting is site-specific,
506
00:24:09,629 --> 00:24:15,361
but I did have this pain
in my back right here,
507
00:24:15,363 --> 00:24:18,265
and it goes all the way through.
508
00:24:18,267 --> 00:24:21,064
Extremely painful.
509
00:24:21,066 --> 00:24:25,468
So I think that someone maybe got shot.
510
00:24:25,470 --> 00:24:28,901
I don't know front or back.
511
00:24:28,903 --> 00:24:33,474
I think that it was a male.
512
00:24:33,476 --> 00:24:34,909
And the problem is
513
00:24:34,911 --> 00:24:39,209
I don't know if it was murder or suicide.
514
00:24:41,010 --> 00:24:44,110
_
515
00:24:50,243 --> 00:24:52,811
During my walk, I saw a tall, thin man
516
00:24:52,813 --> 00:24:55,315
who was able to cause hallucinations.
517
00:24:55,317 --> 00:24:57,251
I'm meeting with a sketch artist
518
00:24:57,253 --> 00:24:59,251
to describe how he appeared to me.
519
00:24:59,253 --> 00:25:02,253
He was approximately 6'4",
520
00:25:02,255 --> 00:25:05,488
extremely thin, especially for his height.
521
00:25:05,490 --> 00:25:07,557
His hair goes back.
522
00:25:07,559 --> 00:25:09,861
Very dark eyes.
523
00:25:09,863 --> 00:25:12,362
Next, I described the childlike entities
524
00:25:12,364 --> 00:25:14,929
who are plotting to harm a living person.
525
00:25:14,931 --> 00:25:17,625
So it happened at the top of the stairwell.
526
00:25:17,627 --> 00:25:19,060
They were all together.
527
00:25:19,062 --> 00:25:20,861
There was about three of them,
528
00:25:20,863 --> 00:25:25,526
and they had decided
to do this to this lady.
529
00:25:30,700 --> 00:25:32,166
Is this what you saw?
530
00:25:33,967 --> 00:25:35,701
Yes.
531
00:25:52,002 --> 00:25:55,002
_
532
00:26:00,379 --> 00:26:03,511
Steve: Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,
533
00:26:03,513 --> 00:26:05,411
we're ready to reveal
our findings to each other
534
00:26:05,413 --> 00:26:07,478
and our clients for the first time.
535
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,445
Well, Amy, I'd like you
to meet Shanan and Krystal.
536
00:26:10,447 --> 00:26:11,814
Now, they're sisters.
537
00:26:11,816 --> 00:26:15,286
Krystal actually owns this home,
538
00:26:15,288 --> 00:26:17,923
and Shanan was living
here with her four kids.
539
00:26:17,925 --> 00:26:19,324
I actually have a photo.
540
00:26:23,565 --> 00:26:25,033
Aw.
541
00:26:25,035 --> 00:26:28,702
Well, thing is, activity got
so bad here a few months back,
542
00:26:28,704 --> 00:26:31,707
she packed up herself and
the four kids and got out.
543
00:26:31,709 --> 00:26:34,578
Problem we got here is that
Krystal is still in the house,
544
00:26:34,580 --> 00:26:35,713
and she's here alone.
545
00:26:38,784 --> 00:26:40,051
Shanan called us in
546
00:26:40,053 --> 00:26:43,087
'cause she's afraid that
her sister may be in danger.
547
00:26:43,089 --> 00:26:44,622
So with that, I'm gonna ask Amy
548
00:26:44,624 --> 00:26:46,492
to tell us a little bit about her walk.
549
00:26:48,762 --> 00:26:54,362
So, when I was first upstairs,
I met an elderly gentleman,
550
00:26:54,364 --> 00:26:58,097
and he feels very lonely and very sad.
551
00:26:58,099 --> 00:27:02,434
And basically, he's a little scattered,
552
00:27:02,436 --> 00:27:07,306
but what he does mostly
is he'll wander around,
553
00:27:07,308 --> 00:27:09,408
and then he'll, like, settle in a room.
554
00:27:09,410 --> 00:27:12,640
So if you go into that
room and he's in there,
555
00:27:12,642 --> 00:27:14,609
you'll feel sick,
556
00:27:14,611 --> 00:27:18,948
you'll feel depressed, you'll feel lonely.
557
00:27:21,017 --> 00:27:22,084
Yeah, my moods change.
558
00:27:22,086 --> 00:27:25,089
I feel sadness for no reason.
559
00:27:25,091 --> 00:27:26,758
I get angry for no reason.
560
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,429
There are days when I go to work,
561
00:27:30,431 --> 00:27:34,569
and I would just have,
like, the worst attitude.
562
00:27:34,571 --> 00:27:36,906
But then, after I'm there for a while,
563
00:27:36,908 --> 00:27:37,939
then it goes away.
564
00:27:37,941 --> 00:27:42,212
Shanan: Since I have been
here, I've totally changed.
565
00:27:42,214 --> 00:27:46,886
I can be very mean sometimes,
and that's not my character.
566
00:27:48,022 --> 00:27:50,892
Okay.
567
00:27:50,894 --> 00:27:53,595
There was another person who,
568
00:27:53,597 --> 00:27:55,897
as soon as I was heading up the stairs,
569
00:27:55,899 --> 00:27:57,633
he told me to get the "F" out.
570
00:27:57,635 --> 00:28:00,770
He was very secretive.
571
00:28:00,772 --> 00:28:05,446
He's very capable of
interaction on a physical level.
572
00:28:05,448 --> 00:28:09,187
People definitely see this guy.
573
00:28:09,189 --> 00:28:16,293
I saw this person push
himself out of his skin,
574
00:28:16,295 --> 00:28:21,299
and then he was just like
a skeleton with muscle.
575
00:28:21,301 --> 00:28:26,144
And I saw him standing by
the side of a child's bed.
576
00:28:26,146 --> 00:28:29,147
- [Crying]
- That's my son.
577
00:28:29,149 --> 00:28:32,983
He told me somebody sits by his bed.
578
00:28:32,985 --> 00:28:36,385
Steve: Did you believe
him when he told you?
579
00:28:36,387 --> 00:28:40,256
No. I didn't.
580
00:28:42,026 --> 00:28:43,227
Need a minute?
581
00:28:43,229 --> 00:28:45,360
- [Clears throat]
- I'm fine.
582
00:28:46,997 --> 00:28:49,099
This man's very intelligent,
583
00:28:49,101 --> 00:28:52,466
very manipulative, very cunning.
584
00:28:52,468 --> 00:28:55,503
He can cause the living
to have hallucinations.
585
00:28:55,505 --> 00:28:57,806
He's so good at this
586
00:28:57,808 --> 00:29:02,442
that there was a lot of
confusion on this walk for me,
587
00:29:02,444 --> 00:29:04,680
because I didn't know what was the truth.
588
00:29:04,682 --> 00:29:07,915
Was he making me hallucinate?
589
00:29:07,917 --> 00:29:10,487
These girls talk about
hallucinations, both of them.
590
00:29:10,489 --> 00:29:12,755
Mm-hmm.
591
00:29:12,757 --> 00:29:15,993
Can you tell Amy about that incident
592
00:29:15,995 --> 00:29:17,364
down here on the couch?
593
00:29:20,300 --> 00:29:25,706
These three images just came
to me, one after another.
594
00:29:25,708 --> 00:29:28,842
The first image is
being the gladiator type.
595
00:29:28,844 --> 00:29:30,576
Mm-hmm.
596
00:29:30,578 --> 00:29:32,944
The second was like an American Indian.
597
00:29:32,946 --> 00:29:37,083
And then the third one, it
was just a white something.
598
00:29:37,085 --> 00:29:38,353
I couldn't tell,
599
00:29:38,355 --> 00:29:41,723
but I was the most
threatened by the last one,
600
00:29:41,725 --> 00:29:43,824
and it terrified me so bad.
601
00:29:43,826 --> 00:29:45,692
Steve: You had mentioned to me
602
00:29:45,694 --> 00:29:48,429
you get those images when
your eyes are shut, right?
603
00:29:48,431 --> 00:29:52,566
Yeah. They're like ungodly creatures.
604
00:29:52,568 --> 00:29:55,268
They scare me so bad.
605
00:29:55,270 --> 00:29:57,203
Now, you mentioned this
guy can be physical, right?
606
00:29:57,205 --> 00:29:57,906
Yes.
607
00:29:58,408 --> 00:30:01,373
They got something really
strange going on in this house.
608
00:30:01,475 --> 00:30:05,143
They have coins getting
thrown at them out of nowhere.
609
00:30:05,145 --> 00:30:05,977
I've seen it.
610
00:30:05,979 --> 00:30:08,613
Everyone is in this area.
611
00:30:08,615 --> 00:30:11,517
Everyone is sitting
around, watching television.
612
00:30:11,519 --> 00:30:12,986
No one's moving.
613
00:30:12,988 --> 00:30:14,722
Next thing you know,
614
00:30:14,724 --> 00:30:18,358
my son is, like, saying "ow,"
615
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,395
and then a coin drops to the floor.
616
00:30:22,397 --> 00:30:25,932
They're in physical sight of me.
617
00:30:25,934 --> 00:30:28,499
I know that neither one
of them could do this.
618
00:30:31,234 --> 00:30:32,669
Steve: And the reason you left here
619
00:30:32,671 --> 00:30:34,706
is because your daughter
got hit with a brush.
620
00:30:34,708 --> 00:30:36,306
Yes.
621
00:30:36,308 --> 00:30:38,074
Down here, in the back.
622
00:30:38,076 --> 00:30:39,242
And they don't keep any brushes down here.
623
00:30:39,244 --> 00:30:41,980
Mm-hmm. Okay.
624
00:30:41,982 --> 00:30:44,150
Is he capable of doing anything like that?
625
00:30:44,152 --> 00:30:47,021
Yeah. He's able to do that.
626
00:30:48,391 --> 00:30:52,064
Now, did you get any sense of
who this guy might have been
627
00:30:52,066 --> 00:30:53,329
when he was alive?
628
00:30:53,331 --> 00:30:57,702
What I got was that he
was directly connected
629
00:30:57,704 --> 00:30:59,502
to this property.
630
00:30:59,504 --> 00:31:01,638
He was, like, showing himself
631
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,445
to be, like, extremely tall, very thin.
632
00:31:04,447 --> 00:31:06,777
You could really see his bones.
633
00:31:06,779 --> 00:31:09,616
I got that he was a very intimidating guy.
634
00:31:09,618 --> 00:31:12,952
I think it was because he
was really, really smart,
635
00:31:12,954 --> 00:31:15,685
very commanding, and people
were very afraid of him.
636
00:31:15,687 --> 00:31:21,058
But he's actually very sad,
and after quite some time,
637
00:31:21,060 --> 00:31:24,827
I got that he did lose a
child and that it was a son.
638
00:31:24,829 --> 00:31:28,095
After some time of being very sad,
639
00:31:28,097 --> 00:31:32,370
became very angry, he denounced God.
640
00:31:33,904 --> 00:31:36,570
Now, back in 1860,
641
00:31:36,572 --> 00:31:38,005
this property was acquired by a guy
642
00:31:38,007 --> 00:31:39,506
that I think she may be talking about,
643
00:31:39,508 --> 00:31:40,607
is this guy B.W. Alexander.
644
00:31:40,609 --> 00:31:44,009
1861, he moved his entire family here,
645
00:31:44,011 --> 00:31:46,177
along with his 23 slaves.
646
00:31:48,312 --> 00:31:50,979
Now, you said this guy was tough, smart,
647
00:31:50,981 --> 00:31:52,514
and intimidated people.
648
00:31:52,516 --> 00:31:55,249
Well, Alexander was a pretty powerful man
649
00:31:55,251 --> 00:31:56,750
in this neighborhood.
650
00:31:56,752 --> 00:31:59,853
This is a guy that went
from rags to riches.
651
00:31:59,855 --> 00:32:03,353
He was an indentured servant
at one point as a kid,
652
00:32:03,355 --> 00:32:07,150
ran away, and became a
self-made millionaire.
653
00:32:07,152 --> 00:32:08,820
You said he lost a son.
654
00:32:08,822 --> 00:32:09,389
Right.
655
00:32:09,391 --> 00:32:11,557
Now, this guy had 13 children altogether.
656
00:32:11,759 --> 00:32:15,592
Six of them died.
657
00:32:15,594 --> 00:32:17,559
Four of them were boys.
658
00:32:20,129 --> 00:32:21,628
You said he was a big guy,
659
00:32:21,630 --> 00:32:23,627
but then you said he was skinny.
660
00:32:23,629 --> 00:32:24,428
Mm-hmm.
661
00:32:24,430 --> 00:32:27,932
He died of a thing called
marasmus... malnutrition.
662
00:32:27,934 --> 00:32:29,334
Oh.
663
00:32:29,336 --> 00:32:31,135
He died at the age of 79.
664
00:32:31,137 --> 00:32:32,870
He was a big guy,
665
00:32:32,872 --> 00:32:35,707
but by the time he died,
he was pretty emaciated.
666
00:32:35,709 --> 00:32:40,012
I actually have a picture
of B.W. Alexander right here.
667
00:32:42,885 --> 00:32:45,454
So, I don't know if this is
the guy you might have ran into.
668
00:32:45,456 --> 00:32:47,888
Uh... No.
669
00:32:47,890 --> 00:32:52,862
But I did do a sketch of the
tall, thin man I encountered.
670
00:32:59,572 --> 00:33:01,273
Well, that ain't him.
671
00:33:01,275 --> 00:33:02,673
No.
672
00:33:11,082 --> 00:33:13,184
[Voice breaking]: No.
673
00:33:15,256 --> 00:33:19,293
You think it's somebody you might know?
674
00:33:19,295 --> 00:33:22,493
Well, I didn't even think about
this until she said something,
675
00:33:22,495 --> 00:33:25,129
but my son... a long time ago,
676
00:33:25,131 --> 00:33:28,031
he used to tell me that
somebody used to sit by his bed.
677
00:33:28,033 --> 00:33:31,234
And he told me that he looked like daddy,
678
00:33:31,236 --> 00:33:33,535
like his father.
679
00:33:33,537 --> 00:33:34,970
His father is alive,
680
00:33:34,972 --> 00:33:37,904
and he looks something like him.
681
00:33:37,906 --> 00:33:41,477
So he shows himself to be something
682
00:33:41,479 --> 00:33:43,781
that he would be comfortable with.
683
00:33:43,783 --> 00:33:46,849
Actually, I think he might
be showing himself like that
684
00:33:46,851 --> 00:33:48,485
to warn the living here,
685
00:33:48,487 --> 00:33:51,522
because the other thing I got
686
00:33:51,524 --> 00:33:55,658
was these childlike entities,
687
00:33:55,660 --> 00:34:00,931
and the guy I was talking
to became very afraid.
688
00:34:00,933 --> 00:34:04,904
He said that these were evil things.
689
00:34:04,906 --> 00:34:07,741
I went looking for them,
690
00:34:07,743 --> 00:34:11,177
and I ended up in the basement,
691
00:34:11,179 --> 00:34:16,212
where I encountered this other guy.
692
00:34:16,214 --> 00:34:21,188
And the children called him a headmaster,
693
00:34:21,190 --> 00:34:26,091
and this male was definitely
abusive to these children.
694
00:34:26,093 --> 00:34:29,562
It made me extremely uncomfortable.
695
00:34:29,564 --> 00:34:32,897
I got that this was pretty
far back, like 1860s.
696
00:34:32,899 --> 00:34:36,804
You say "headmaster," and
then you're going back in time.
697
00:34:36,806 --> 00:34:38,171
There might have been slave kids
698
00:34:38,273 --> 00:34:39,570
and this guy was mistreating them.
699
00:34:39,572 --> 00:34:41,273
Instead of "headmaster," but "master."
700
00:34:41,275 --> 00:34:43,074
I don't know,
701
00:34:43,076 --> 00:34:45,439
but the living might see them
702
00:34:45,441 --> 00:34:47,342
kind of out of the corner of their eyes.
703
00:34:47,344 --> 00:34:49,744
They cause a lot of ruckus.
704
00:34:49,746 --> 00:34:54,113
You'll hear a lot of,
like, movement or sound.
705
00:34:54,115 --> 00:35:00,019
Also, they like to
orchestrate, like, catastrophes.
706
00:35:00,021 --> 00:35:01,317
[Gasps]
707
00:35:01,319 --> 00:35:04,222
What do you mean by that?
708
00:35:04,224 --> 00:35:09,092
Well, I was seeing a lot
of different scenarios
709
00:35:09,094 --> 00:35:12,596
that these kids were planning,
710
00:35:12,598 --> 00:35:17,466
and one of the things was
something that I sketched.
711
00:35:17,468 --> 00:35:18,434
Okay.
712
00:35:26,078 --> 00:35:27,812
Oh [Bleep]
713
00:35:34,952 --> 00:35:36,285
I don't know if I want to show you this.
714
00:35:41,857 --> 00:35:43,958
Oh...
715
00:35:47,096 --> 00:35:49,327
[Voice breaking]: Are
you kidding me right now?
716
00:36:05,294 --> 00:36:09,498
Amy: I was seeing a lot
of different scenarios
717
00:36:09,500 --> 00:36:12,972
that these kids were planning,
718
00:36:12,974 --> 00:36:17,108
and one of the things was
something that I sketched.
719
00:36:25,156 --> 00:36:27,022
Oh [Bleep]
720
00:36:28,658 --> 00:36:30,593
I don't even know if I
want to show you this.
721
00:36:37,995 --> 00:36:39,162
Oh...
722
00:36:40,799 --> 00:36:44,702
[Voice breaking]: Are
you kidding me right now?
723
00:36:44,704 --> 00:36:48,874
This is what I was afraid of.
724
00:36:52,442 --> 00:36:54,109
I'm a pretty skeptical guy,
725
00:36:54,111 --> 00:36:56,881
but when Amy comes up
with things like this,
726
00:36:56,883 --> 00:36:58,615
there's just no explanation.
727
00:37:01,652 --> 00:37:02,987
[Sighs]
728
00:37:06,324 --> 00:37:12,196
That's almost exactly how I got hurt here.
729
00:37:13,531 --> 00:37:16,765
They already hurt you?
730
00:37:18,202 --> 00:37:19,936
- God, stop it.
- [Sniffles]
731
00:37:19,938 --> 00:37:25,377
I was standing on the landing
at the top of the stairs,
732
00:37:25,379 --> 00:37:28,415
and then I felt a push,
733
00:37:28,417 --> 00:37:35,492
and I fell so hard that I
tumbled, like, completely,
734
00:37:35,494 --> 00:37:38,264
and I hit the door with
my back and my head,
735
00:37:38,266 --> 00:37:39,466
and I flew forward.
736
00:37:39,468 --> 00:37:41,902
Ohh.
737
00:37:41,904 --> 00:37:44,709
I fractured my elbow.
738
00:37:44,711 --> 00:37:46,077
That's how hard I fell.
739
00:37:46,079 --> 00:37:48,313
I'm shocked that you're still here.
740
00:37:51,983 --> 00:37:56,188
I can tell you one thing
is that these kids...
741
00:37:56,190 --> 00:37:57,688
they're trying to reorganize
742
00:37:57,690 --> 00:38:01,889
and figure out a better way
to make you hurt yourself.
743
00:38:03,091 --> 00:38:06,924
They're not giving up.
744
00:38:06,926 --> 00:38:09,027
So...
745
00:38:15,201 --> 00:38:18,569
This is what I think is going on here.
746
00:38:18,571 --> 00:38:22,305
The male that I encountered
while he was alive
747
00:38:22,307 --> 00:38:25,677
probably had a fractured sense of self,
748
00:38:25,679 --> 00:38:29,983
possibly having multiple personalities,
749
00:38:29,985 --> 00:38:35,892
and when he died, they kind of separated,
750
00:38:35,894 --> 00:38:39,398
creating many different entities.
751
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,137
So, if I'm reading you right,
752
00:38:42,139 --> 00:38:45,976
is the headmaster and the tall
guy the same person but split?
753
00:38:46,078 --> 00:38:48,146
I think so, yes. I do.
754
00:38:48,148 --> 00:38:50,482
I think it's two aspects of this guy.
755
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,491
Even the elderly man
could also be part of him.
756
00:38:57,493 --> 00:39:02,130
The thing is, is he'll do
anything to make you leave,
757
00:39:02,132 --> 00:39:04,396
even if it is horrifying.
758
00:39:04,398 --> 00:39:10,734
But what he was telling me was
that he was doing these things
759
00:39:10,736 --> 00:39:13,469
to protect the families here...
760
00:39:13,471 --> 00:39:15,205
What?
761
00:39:15,507 --> 00:39:19,076
Because he knew that these children
762
00:39:19,078 --> 00:39:24,516
are here who mean big, big harm.
763
00:39:27,355 --> 00:39:33,094
So, for him to appear as
your son's father makes sense,
764
00:39:33,096 --> 00:39:39,867
because he's trying in his
warped way to be the protector.
765
00:39:39,869 --> 00:39:44,173
But, you know, there
being living children here
766
00:39:44,175 --> 00:39:48,341
is not an option right
now, as you are aware.
767
00:39:50,709 --> 00:39:54,709
It's not a good place for
living people in general,
768
00:39:54,711 --> 00:39:56,544
but very much children.
769
00:40:06,221 --> 00:40:09,088
Well, Shanan, it's very good
770
00:40:09,090 --> 00:40:10,755
that you moved the kids out of here,
771
00:40:10,757 --> 00:40:14,925
and it's even better that
you called us in, all right?
772
00:40:14,927 --> 00:40:16,827
You weren't over-reacting.
773
00:40:16,829 --> 00:40:19,660
Obviously, your sister was in danger.
774
00:40:19,662 --> 00:40:23,964
The big question is,
can she stay here safely?
775
00:40:26,869 --> 00:40:29,806
For that, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy.
776
00:40:31,276 --> 00:40:38,182
Initially, I was thinking
about an exorcism.
777
00:40:41,654 --> 00:40:43,288
But since he's trying to make up
778
00:40:43,290 --> 00:40:45,456
for the evil he's done in the past
779
00:40:45,458 --> 00:40:46,990
and protect you from these things here,
780
00:40:47,592 --> 00:40:49,958
I want to try something else first.
781
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:54,265
So you need to bring in a chaos magician.
782
00:40:54,267 --> 00:40:58,067
A chaos magician uses anything
from religion, science,
783
00:40:58,069 --> 00:41:01,737
to cultural traditions to
clear an area of the dead.
784
00:41:01,739 --> 00:41:03,271
There's no set formula,
785
00:41:03,273 --> 00:41:05,239
as they work on a case-by-case basis,
786
00:41:05,241 --> 00:41:06,406
but when they're done,
787
00:41:06,408 --> 00:41:09,175
Krystal's home should be free of the dead.
788
00:41:09,977 --> 00:41:12,144
So, everything would be cleared out, then?
789
00:41:12,146 --> 00:41:13,312
Yes.
790
00:41:13,614 --> 00:41:14,979
Including the kids?
791
00:41:14,981 --> 00:41:16,845
Yeah.
792
00:41:17,347 --> 00:41:22,416
But I do have a concern for
you being here in the meantime,
793
00:41:22,418 --> 00:41:27,586
because they're going to
feel extremely threatened
794
00:41:27,588 --> 00:41:31,188
and very unhappy.
795
00:41:31,190 --> 00:41:32,889
So basically you're telling us
796
00:41:32,891 --> 00:41:36,226
she should go stay someplace
else till she gets this guy in.
797
00:41:36,228 --> 00:41:38,526
I think you should, yes.
798
00:41:38,528 --> 00:41:43,095
Would you be able to swing that?
799
00:41:43,097 --> 00:41:44,730
Definitely.
800
00:41:44,732 --> 00:41:46,264
You don't have to worry about that.
801
00:41:46,266 --> 00:41:50,170
I just wish I could get
it started, like, tonight.
802
00:41:50,172 --> 00:41:52,940
I will call him.
803
00:41:55,912 --> 00:41:58,114
Amy: I'm concerned for Krystal,
804
00:41:58,116 --> 00:41:59,948
as the entities within this house
805
00:41:59,950 --> 00:42:02,916
pose a very real physical danger.
806
00:42:02,918 --> 00:42:05,389
But I believe that if
she follows my advice,
807
00:42:05,391 --> 00:42:06,457
she'll remain safe
808
00:42:06,459 --> 00:42:08,426
and be able to lead a peaceful life
809
00:42:08,428 --> 00:42:10,363
in the home she loves so much.
810
00:42:13,964 --> 00:42:16,964
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811
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