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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:39,706 --> 00:00:40,878 (PHONE RINGING) 2 00:00:41,074 --> 00:00:43,645 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 3 00:00:44,077 --> 00:00:45,818 (VOICES MUMBLING INDISTINCTLY) 4 00:01:02,429 --> 00:01:04,705 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 5 00:01:06,733 --> 00:01:09,111 (PHONE RINGING) 6 00:01:14,107 --> 00:01:16,109 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 7 00:01:25,085 --> 00:01:26,257 So? 8 00:01:26,687 --> 00:01:27,859 This is the only alligator. 9 00:01:31,425 --> 00:01:34,463 Four minutes past. We walk in one minute. He was clear on that. 10 00:01:35,195 --> 00:01:36,230 He's coming. 11 00:01:44,237 --> 00:01:48,447 No, he's too young to have that kind of access. 12 00:02:02,889 --> 00:02:05,335 Uh, what time does the restaurant open? 13 00:02:05,425 --> 00:02:08,565 Noon. But the food's a little too spicy. 14 00:02:09,963 --> 00:02:11,067 This way. 15 00:02:31,585 --> 00:02:33,121 MAN: Excuse me. Uh-huh. 16 00:02:33,487 --> 00:02:34,488 MAN: Thank you. 17 00:02:34,621 --> 00:02:35,861 (ELEVATOR BELL DINGS) 18 00:02:48,035 --> 00:02:49,207 Right here. 19 00:03:08,121 --> 00:03:11,295 (SIGHS) It's, uh, really great to finally meet you guys. 20 00:03:12,225 --> 00:03:16,071 So, first thing, can I get your cell phones, please? 21 00:03:17,464 --> 00:03:18,636 Thank you. 22 00:03:19,299 --> 00:03:21,870 We want Laura to be the only one recording, right? 23 00:03:21,968 --> 00:03:23,675 As discussed? Thank you. 24 00:03:25,072 --> 00:03:27,712 I actually bought this. It blocks UHF frequencies. 25 00:03:28,742 --> 00:03:30,312 (CAMERA BEEPS) 26 00:03:35,482 --> 00:03:37,155 You've been photographed before, right? 27 00:03:37,651 --> 00:03:40,894 Yeah, it's been a while since anybody took a photo of me, so... (LAUGHS) 28 00:03:40,987 --> 00:03:42,864 AURA: Try thinking of this as your friend. 29 00:03:42,989 --> 00:03:44,229 (BREATHES DEEPLY) 30 00:03:45,158 --> 00:03:46,398 Take your time. 31 00:03:48,195 --> 00:03:49,333 (INHALES DEEPLY) Um... 32 00:03:51,098 --> 00:03:53,203 Can you start by telling us why you did what you did 33 00:03:53,266 --> 00:03:55,371 and, uh, how you gained access 34 00:03:55,435 --> 00:03:57,005 to such a vast amount of information, 35 00:03:57,170 --> 00:03:58,706 all of which I read on the plane 36 00:03:58,772 --> 00:04:00,718 and... Glenn. 37 00:04:01,341 --> 00:04:04,515 Uh' how about we just start with your name? Okay? 38 00:04:07,881 --> 00:04:09,189 (INHALES DEEPLY) 39 00:04:09,382 --> 00:04:12,852 My name is Edward Joseph Snowden. 40 00:04:15,021 --> 00:04:17,399 Fm 29 years ski. 41 00:04:17,457 --> 00:04:21,064 I work as a private contractor for the NSA. 42 00:04:21,128 --> 00:04:23,074 I've also worked as a private contractor 43 00:04:23,196 --> 00:04:27,645 for the CIA and directly for the Agency. 44 00:04:27,734 --> 00:04:30,112 We worked in various jobs in the intelligence industry 45 00:04:30,203 --> 00:04:31,910 for the last nine years. 46 00:04:31,972 --> 00:04:37,217 I've been a systems engineer, uh, been a solutions consultant... 47 00:04:37,310 --> 00:04:39,153 Uh... (ALL CALLING CADENCE) 48 00:04:39,312 --> 00:04:43,089 SNOWDEN: And a senior adviser for the Central Intelligence Agency. 49 00:04:43,817 --> 00:04:45,319 RECRUIT: Rangers... DRILL SERGEANT: Rangers... 50 00:04:45,418 --> 00:04:47,091 RECRUITS: Rangers... RECRUIT: Rangers... 51 00:04:47,154 --> 00:04:48,462 DRILL SERGEANT: So you wanna be Special Forces? 52 00:04:48,555 --> 00:04:50,057 RECRUITS: Sir, yes, sir! 53 00:04:50,123 --> 00:04:52,626 I think Special Forces would be ashamed 54 00:04:52,726 --> 00:04:54,967 to call you soldiers. Am I right? 55 00:04:55,061 --> 00:04:56,267 RECRUITS: Sir, no, sir! 56 00:04:56,329 --> 00:05:00,505 DRILL SERGEANT: Your left. Your left, right. Your left. 57 00:05:01,501 --> 00:05:04,914 DRILL SERGEANTI (SINGING) Went from driving Cadillacs 58 00:05:05,238 --> 00:05:08,276 RECRUWS'. Went from driving Cadillacs 59 00:05:08,775 --> 00:05:12,450 DRILL SERGEANT: To driving convoys in Iraq 60 00:05:12,579 --> 00:05:15,185 RECRUITS: To driving convoys in Iraq 61 00:05:15,415 --> 00:05:16,689 TRAINER: Move it, soldier! 62 00:05:16,917 --> 00:05:19,625 (RECRUITS GRUNTING, PANTING) 63 00:05:20,420 --> 00:05:22,263 TRAINER: Go! Go! Move now! 64 00:05:23,757 --> 00:05:25,430 TRAINERS: Move! You better get going! 65 00:05:25,525 --> 00:05:27,198 Pick it up, you waste of space! 66 00:05:27,761 --> 00:05:28,967 DRILL SERGEANT: Let's move! 67 00:05:31,198 --> 00:05:32,768 TRAINER: Come on, soldier! Go! 68 00:05:34,134 --> 00:05:35,374 Come on, darling! 69 00:05:36,536 --> 00:05:38,345 (SHOUTING) Snowden? What the hell are you doing? 70 00:05:38,438 --> 00:05:39,473 Nothing, sir! 71 00:05:39,539 --> 00:05:41,382 Where is your fucking heart? Right here, sir! 72 00:05:41,474 --> 00:05:43,977 I want you to reach way down in that pathetic excuse of a chest, 73 00:05:44,044 --> 00:05:45,318 and you rip it out. 74 00:05:45,378 --> 00:05:47,119 You find your heart, and then you get 75 00:05:47,180 --> 00:05:48,989 your broke ass on my tower! You got that? 76 00:05:49,049 --> 00:05:50,027 Sir, yes, sir! 77 00:05:50,116 --> 00:05:51,618 DRILL SERGEANT: Now get the fuck out of my face! 78 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,324 I need you on my tower, gentlemen! Let's move! 79 00:05:59,726 --> 00:06:01,637 TRAINER: Move! Move! Let's go! 80 00:06:01,728 --> 00:06:04,709 (BANGING ON DOOR} DRILL SERGEANT: (SHOUTING) Rise and shine, maggots! 81 00:06:04,798 --> 00:06:08,143 Get your hands off your dicks, and get the fuck out of my barracks! 82 00:06:08,201 --> 00:06:09,544 You guys got one minute! 83 00:06:09,636 --> 00:06:11,809 Fall out! Move, move, move! 84 00:06:11,905 --> 00:06:13,384 Gel the hell out here! Get the hell out of my barracks! 85 00:06:13,473 --> 00:06:14,645 (LOUD THUD) (GASPS) 86 00:06:14,708 --> 00:06:16,051 DRILL SERGEANT: Move it! Keep moving! 87 00:06:16,142 --> 00:06:18,418 Let's go! All right, gentlemen. 88 00:06:19,145 --> 00:06:20,681 (RECRUITS GRUNTING) 89 00:06:21,248 --> 00:06:22,249 DRILL SERGEANT: Harrison? RECRUIT: Here! 90 00:06:22,349 --> 00:06:23,419 DRILL SERGEANT: Carson? RECRUIT: Here! 91 00:06:23,516 --> 00:06:24,551 DRILL SERGEANT: Ramirez'? RECRUIT: Here! 92 00:06:24,651 --> 00:06:25,686 (SHOUTS) Fuck! 93 00:06:25,752 --> 00:06:26,753 DRILL SERGEANT: Pierce? RECRUIT: Here! 94 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:28,526 DRILL SERGEANT: Coulson? Help! 95 00:06:28,588 --> 00:06:29,828 DRILL SERGEANT: Snowden! 96 00:06:30,657 --> 00:06:33,831 Snowden! Where the fuck is Snowden? 97 00:06:33,994 --> 00:06:35,667 Help! (SIGHS) 98 00:06:36,696 --> 00:06:39,609 DOCTOR: You know, you've been walking around on two broken legs... 99 00:06:39,699 --> 00:06:41,838 Best I can tell, for weeks. 100 00:06:43,336 --> 00:06:47,250 Now this is what happens when you put a SU-pound rucksack 101 00:06:47,340 --> 00:06:48,580 on a 150-pound body. 102 00:06:48,675 --> 00:06:50,916 You get these little stress fractures and... (G ROANS) 103 00:06:51,344 --> 00:06:52,288 Easy. Sorry. 104 00:06:52,379 --> 00:06:53,585 They build up in yourtibias. 105 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,752 You don't get off of 'em, and eventually they just bust. 106 00:06:56,850 --> 00:06:59,353 Now, you're gonna be here for a few weeks, 107 00:06:59,719 --> 00:07:02,928 and then I'd count on another eight weeks or so 108 00:07:03,023 --> 00:07:04,229 on the crutches. 109 00:07:04,291 --> 00:07:06,066 SNQWDEN: Okay, and then when do I go back? 110 00:07:06,126 --> 00:07:09,266 Son, you ever again land on those legs of yours, 111 00:07:09,362 --> 00:07:12,775 airborne or not, those bones will turn to powder. 112 00:07:12,866 --> 00:07:15,312 I'm gonna authorize an administrative discharge. 113 00:07:15,435 --> 00:07:17,039 (SIGHS) 114 00:07:17,537 --> 00:07:19,881 DOCTOR: Plenty of other ways to serve your country. 115 00:07:28,381 --> 00:07:29,621 (MESSAGE ALERT) 116 00:07:40,927 --> 00:07:42,338 (CHUCKLES) 117 00:07:42,395 --> 00:07:45,774 POLYGRAPH ADMINISTRATOR: Have you ever committed a crime for which you weren't caught? 118 00:07:46,399 --> 00:07:47,434 SNOWDENI No. 119 00:07:50,570 --> 00:07:52,948 POLYGRAPH ADMINISTRATOR: Have you ever cheated on an exam? 120 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:54,641 SNOWDENI No. 121 00:07:56,409 --> 00:07:57,786 Do you believe the United States 122 00:07:57,911 --> 00:07:59,288 is the greatest country in the world? 123 00:07:59,646 --> 00:08:00,852 Yes. 124 00:08:01,681 --> 00:08:03,592 INTERVIEWER: Why do you want to join the CIA? 125 00:08:05,151 --> 00:08:07,427 PSYCHOLOGIST: How would you explain the Internet to a child? 126 00:08:09,322 --> 00:08:12,997 INTERVIEWER: Granddad retired as an admiral and joined the FBI. 127 00:08:13,093 --> 00:08:15,664 Dad's in the Coast Guard, 30-year man. 128 00:08:15,762 --> 00:08:18,606 PSYCHOLOGIST: What has been the most important day in your life? 129 00:08:18,665 --> 00:08:20,201 9/11. 130 00:08:20,300 --> 00:08:22,940 We thought my grandfather was inside the Pentagon. 131 00:08:23,203 --> 00:08:25,877 Uh, turned out he was off-site that day. 132 00:08:26,039 --> 00:08:28,519 INTERVIEWER: You wanted to be Special Forces? 133 00:08:28,608 --> 00:08:32,954 Yes, sir. Yeah, I love their motto. De oppresso fiber. 134 00:08:33,013 --> 00:08:37,792 INTERVIEWER: Is that what you hope to do with us? Free people from oppression? 135 00:08:37,851 --> 00:08:40,297 I'd like to help my country make a difference in the world. 136 00:08:40,487 --> 00:08:44,333 Uh, the Internet is a technology 137 00:08:45,225 --> 00:08:46,727 that has the power 138 00:08:46,826 --> 00:08:50,330 to let everyone in the world understand each other. 139 00:08:50,397 --> 00:08:54,868 Missed a perfect score on the ASVAB test by a single question. 140 00:08:56,136 --> 00:08:58,707 Crushed the language learning test. 141 00:08:58,805 --> 00:09:01,411 Some Mandarin, some Japanese. 142 00:09:03,910 --> 00:09:05,856 And no high school diploma. 143 00:09:05,979 --> 00:09:07,890 So why did you stop attending high school? 144 00:09:08,515 --> 00:09:12,395 I had to make money. My parents were divorcing at the time. 145 00:09:13,353 --> 00:09:14,923 Any other influences? 146 00:09:15,555 --> 00:09:17,831 I'd say Joseph Campbell, 147 00:09:19,659 --> 00:09:23,232 Star Wars, Thoreau, Ayn Rand... 148 00:09:24,431 --> 00:09:27,674 One man can stop the motor of the world. 149 00:09:27,734 --> 00:09:30,180 Atlas Shrugged. Yes, sir. I believe that. 150 00:09:31,404 --> 00:09:33,680 Let's try again. 151 00:09:33,740 --> 00:09:36,186 Why do you want to join the CIA? 152 00:09:38,244 --> 00:09:39,518 Uh... 153 00:09:39,746 --> 00:09:42,556 Well, frankly, sir, 154 00:09:44,417 --> 00:09:47,523 it sounds really cool to have top security clearance. 155 00:09:49,689 --> 00:09:50,861 (CHUCKLES) 156 00:09:55,528 --> 00:09:58,372 (INHALES DEEPLY) It's not enough. 157 00:10:03,603 --> 00:10:04,980 (EXHALES DEEPLY) 158 00:10:05,872 --> 00:10:09,581 Ordinarily. But these are not ordinary times. 159 00:10:11,377 --> 00:10:13,482 Bombs won't stop terrorism, brains will, 160 00:10:13,613 --> 00:10:15,718 and we don't have nearly enough of those. 161 00:10:17,050 --> 00:10:19,121 I'm gonna give you a shot, Snowden. 162 00:10:19,752 --> 00:10:22,596 Thank you, sir. Thank you very much. You won't regret this. 163 00:10:23,256 --> 00:10:25,065 My name's Corbin O'Brien. 164 00:10:25,125 --> 00:10:27,662 I have many titles, among them Senior Instructor. 165 00:10:28,795 --> 00:10:30,900 You'll be joining my class at The Hill. 166 00:10:31,498 --> 00:10:33,000 Stop the vehicle. 167 00:10:33,099 --> 00:10:34,237 Shut off the engine. 168 00:10:36,803 --> 00:10:38,146 I need to see your ID. 169 00:10:39,072 --> 00:10:40,278 (BARKING) 170 00:10:41,741 --> 00:10:45,154 All right. Using your left hand only, pop the trunk. 171 00:10:45,411 --> 00:10:47,413 (LOCK OPENING) 172 00:10:47,847 --> 00:10:48,825 SECURITY GUARD: Now place your hands 173 00:10:48,915 --> 00:10:50,792 through the steering wheel on the dashboard. 174 00:10:51,184 --> 00:10:52,595 Through the steering wheel. 175 00:10:53,186 --> 00:10:55,666 On the dashboard. Do not exit the vehicle. 176 00:10:59,159 --> 00:11:00,331 SECURITY GUARD 2: Right here. Right here. 177 00:11:13,273 --> 00:11:14,684 Excuse me. 178 00:11:15,008 --> 00:11:16,612 You'll be looking for Corbin's class. 179 00:11:16,676 --> 00:11:19,350 End of the hall, keep going through the second set of doors. 180 00:11:19,612 --> 00:11:22,957 Thank you. Is that an Enigma? 181 00:11:23,449 --> 00:11:25,952 No. Enigma was broken. 182 00:11:26,019 --> 00:11:28,829 This is the follow up, the Sigaba. Never broken. 183 00:11:29,622 --> 00:11:32,068 Cold Wars greatest encryption machine. 184 00:11:32,158 --> 00:11:36,504 Tides of history ticked with this motor and these rotors. 185 00:11:36,629 --> 00:11:39,473 Wow! One day everyone's gonna want a machine like this. 186 00:11:40,133 --> 00:11:43,342 I always wanted t0 learn cryptography. What's this one? 187 00:11:43,970 --> 00:11:45,745 The Hot Line. 188 00:11:45,838 --> 00:11:48,580 First direct link between Washington and Moscow. 189 00:11:48,675 --> 00:11:50,712 Probably prevented World War Ill. 190 00:11:53,546 --> 00:11:55,890 You got a name? How do I know you're not the enemy? 191 00:11:55,982 --> 00:11:57,859 Oh, sorry. Uh, Snowden. Ed Snowden. 192 00:11:57,917 --> 00:12:00,830 Hank F onesier _ Wherek! you study, Snowman'? 193 00:12:00,887 --> 00:12:02,867 Mostly I'm, uh, self-taught. 194 00:12:04,324 --> 00:12:06,861 You can tell me if you're busy, but is that a Cray-T? 195 00:12:07,327 --> 00:12:09,830 Why, yes. Yes, it is. 196 00:12:10,530 --> 00:12:13,409 The first supercomputer. 197 00:12:13,499 --> 00:12:15,172 You can get all of this on a cell phone now. 198 00:12:15,268 --> 00:12:17,942 Yeah. So you're, um, an engineer? 199 00:12:18,371 --> 00:12:21,841 Am I an engineer? Instructor and counselor, too. 200 00:12:21,908 --> 00:12:24,184 I'm supposed m keep an eye on you Us, 201 00:12:24,244 --> 00:12:26,349 make sure you don't buckle under the pressure. 202 00:12:26,412 --> 00:12:27,686 Turn to drugs and booze. 203 00:12:28,214 --> 00:12:31,787 Well, you won't have that problem with me. I don't drink or do drugs. 204 00:12:31,884 --> 00:12:33,522 What is your sin of choice? 205 00:12:33,586 --> 00:12:35,532 Uh, computers. 206 00:12:37,123 --> 00:12:40,764 Well, then, Snowclen, you've come to the right little whorehouse. 207 00:12:43,529 --> 00:12:46,533 O'BRIAN: The front lines in the global war on terror 208 00:12:46,599 --> 00:12:48,545 are not in Iraq or Afghanistan. 209 00:12:49,535 --> 00:12:52,982 They're here. In London, 210 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:55,480 Berlin, (WOMAN SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY) 211 00:12:56,576 --> 00:12:57,782 Istanbul... 212 00:12:58,444 --> 00:13:00,720 Any server, any connection... 213 00:13:02,115 --> 00:13:04,721 The modern battlefield 214 00:13:05,318 --> 00:13:06,626 is everywhere. 215 00:13:08,488 --> 00:13:09,990 Which means 216 00:13:10,590 --> 00:13:14,800 you don't have to sit in the ditch eating MREs or dodging mortar fire, 217 00:13:14,894 --> 00:13:20,674 it means that if there is another 9111, it'll be your fault. 218 00:13:22,835 --> 00:13:25,406 Just as the last one was my generation's. 219 00:13:27,940 --> 00:13:30,750 Believe me, you do not want to live with that burden. 220 00:13:35,948 --> 00:13:38,258 We're gonna start with an aptitude test. 221 00:13:38,318 --> 00:13:39,626 (KEYBOARDS CLACKING) 222 00:13:39,686 --> 00:13:42,826 (TBPJAN: Each o! you is gonna build a covert communications network 223 00:13:42,922 --> 00:13:44,424 in your home city, 224 00:13:45,958 --> 00:13:50,168 you're gonna deploy it, back up your site, destroy it, 225 00:13:50,263 --> 00:13:51,936 and restore it again. 226 00:13:53,099 --> 00:13:54,806 The point of this exercise is to keep 227 00:13:54,867 --> 00:13:57,473 your infrastructure up and running securely. 228 00:13:58,037 --> 00:14:00,779 The average test time is five hours. 229 00:14:01,174 --> 00:14:04,155 If you take more than eight, you will fail. 230 00:14:29,802 --> 00:14:31,213 Mr. O'Brian? 231 00:14:32,638 --> 00:14:33,981 I'm done, sir. 232 00:14:34,307 --> 00:14:36,844 You don't have to tell me when you've completed a stage. 233 00:14:37,009 --> 00:14:38,818 No, Ifinished the whole thing. 234 00:14:39,579 --> 00:14:41,183 It's been 40 minutes. 235 00:14:41,247 --> 00:14:42,521 Thirty-eight. 236 00:14:42,582 --> 00:14:43,822 What? 237 00:14:44,484 --> 00:14:45,827 Thirty-eight minutes. 238 00:14:48,521 --> 00:14:50,728 Okay. Let's see where you screwed up. 239 00:14:53,493 --> 00:14:54,870 (KEYBOARDS CLACKING) 240 00:14:59,198 --> 00:15:01,269 (SYSTEM BEEPING) 241 00:15:01,768 --> 00:15:03,748 (KEYBOARD CLACKING) 242 00:15:04,170 --> 00:15:06,377 (COMPUTING) (SYSTEM BEEPING) 243 00:15:12,111 --> 00:15:14,751 You didn't say we had to do it in order, sir. 244 00:15:14,847 --> 00:15:17,919 So I, uh, broke the sequence to save time, 245 00:15:18,017 --> 00:15:22,090 and I automated the backup process to run as I built the site. 246 00:15:23,756 --> 00:15:25,064 Eyes on screens. 247 00:15:32,432 --> 00:15:33,536 Sir? 248 00:15:35,802 --> 00:15:37,475 What should I do now? 249 00:15:37,570 --> 00:15:38,947 Whatever you want. 250 00:15:55,221 --> 00:15:57,167 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) (MAN LAUGHING) 251 00:16:06,566 --> 00:16:08,068 (CAMERA CLICKS) 252 00:16:16,943 --> 00:16:18,945 Hey. Hi. 253 00:16:20,313 --> 00:16:22,190 Finally. (LAUGHS) Yeah. 254 00:16:25,251 --> 00:16:27,492 Um, sorry. 255 00:16:32,258 --> 00:16:35,262 Do you, um, want anything? 256 00:16:35,328 --> 00:16:38,036 No. Let's go for a walk. 257 00:16:38,130 --> 00:16:39,803 You could use some sun. (LAUGHS) 258 00:16:40,266 --> 00:16:44,112 (LAUGHS) Yeah. You mentioned that earlier. 259 00:16:45,104 --> 00:16:47,482 Sorry it took me this long. I just... 260 00:16:47,874 --> 00:16:51,788 You didn't want to see me on crutches. I was not so agile. 261 00:16:52,044 --> 00:16:53,717 And then this new job hit. So... 262 00:16:53,813 --> 00:16:56,225 0h, yeah, what was it you were doing again? 263 00:16:56,315 --> 00:16:58,226 I'm doing analysis for the State Department. 264 00:16:58,317 --> 00:17:00,354 Right. Congratulations. Thanks. 265 00:17:00,453 --> 00:17:01,898 You're welcome. 266 00:17:01,988 --> 00:17:03,695 Hey, can you do me a favor 267 00:17:03,789 --> 00:17:05,996 and, um, point in the direction of the State Department? 268 00:17:06,792 --> 00:17:07,964 Uh... 269 00:17:11,163 --> 00:17:12,642 Yeah, it's that way. (CAMERA CLICKS) 270 00:17:13,165 --> 00:17:15,406 Where? Are you sure? (CAMERA CLICKS) 271 00:17:16,536 --> 00:17:19,312 I mean, I'm not that great at orienting myself... 272 00:17:19,372 --> 00:17:21,579 Not that great at lying, either. 273 00:17:21,674 --> 00:17:24,314 You're gonna have to work on both if you wanna be a spy. 274 00:17:26,012 --> 00:17:27,491 Where I came from, everyone's parents 275 00:17:27,547 --> 00:17:29,652 worked for the "State Department." 276 00:17:29,882 --> 00:17:32,692 Plus, every time you visited my website this week, 277 00:17:32,752 --> 00:17:36,529 which was quite often, it was from an IP in Virginia. 278 00:17:36,722 --> 00:17:38,759 You know how to run an IP trace? 279 00:17:39,358 --> 00:17:43,067 I'm pretty sure that the State Department has no offices in Virginia. 280 00:17:45,531 --> 00:17:46,942 (CHUCKLES) Huh? 281 00:17:47,333 --> 00:17:48,505 (CAMERA CLICKS) 282 00:17:52,438 --> 00:17:53,883 All right, let's see you strut it. 283 00:17:54,340 --> 00:17:55,546 Let's see what? 284 00:17:55,608 --> 00:17:57,178 Let's see you strut it. Show me what you got, you know. 285 00:17:57,243 --> 00:17:58,916 Your best catwalk. 286 00:18:00,179 --> 00:18:02,455 Don't be shy. 287 00:18:02,582 --> 00:18:04,789 Come on. You got this. Uh... All right. 288 00:18:04,917 --> 00:18:06,123 (CAMERA CLICKING) 289 00:18:06,252 --> 00:18:07,731 (BOTH LAUGHING) 290 00:18:08,521 --> 00:18:09,625 I don't know. (LAUGHS) 291 00:18:15,628 --> 00:18:17,198 PROTESTORS: (CHANTING) Drop Bush, not bombs! 292 00:18:17,263 --> 00:18:21,040 Drop Bush, not bombs! 293 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,373 Excuse me. Would you mind signing our petition, please? 294 00:18:23,436 --> 00:18:24,779 Yes, absolutely. 295 00:18:27,039 --> 00:18:28,780 Thank you. Thank you so much. Sir? 296 00:18:28,874 --> 00:18:29,909 No, thank you. 297 00:18:32,612 --> 00:18:34,148 MALE ACTIVIST: Excuse me, ma'am. Would you like to sign? 298 00:18:34,246 --> 00:18:35,919 I actually just signed. Yeah. Okay. Thank you very much. 299 00:18:35,982 --> 00:18:36,983 Thank you. 300 00:18:38,417 --> 00:18:40,556 Too much independent spirit for you? 301 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:44,829 Uh, no, I just don't really like bashing my country. 302 00:18:44,957 --> 00:18:48,734 It's my country too, and right now it has blood on its hands. 303 00:18:49,795 --> 00:18:51,138 (SIGHS) 304 00:18:51,230 --> 00:18:54,143 Sorry, ljusl... I have friends who are over there right now. 305 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:55,572 I'm not talking about the troops. 306 00:18:55,635 --> 00:18:57,478 I'm talking about the moron sending them to war. 307 00:18:57,570 --> 00:19:00,414 (LAUGHS) Moron'? You mean our Commander-in-Chief? 308 00:19:00,473 --> 00:19:02,919 Yeah, whatever you want to call him. He's still wrong. 309 00:19:02,975 --> 00:19:04,682 How do you know he's wrong? You're just lashing out. 310 00:19:04,777 --> 00:19:08,589 No, I'm not lashing out. I'm questioning our government. 311 00:19:08,648 --> 00:19:09,786 That's what we do in this country. 312 00:19:09,849 --> 00:19:12,193 That is the principle that we were founded on. 313 00:19:12,284 --> 00:19:16,460 Okay, but how about questioning the liberal media? 314 00:19:16,756 --> 00:19:20,636 I mean, you're just buying into what one side is saying. 315 00:19:21,427 --> 00:19:24,033 (LAUGHS) Maybe I am, 'cause my side is right. 316 00:19:24,597 --> 00:19:26,702 See, that's funny, 'cause my side's right. Oh, really'? 317 00:19:26,799 --> 00:19:29,109 Yeah. Uh...(LAUGHS) 318 00:19:29,869 --> 00:19:33,214 Why is it smart conservatives always make me so mad? 319 00:19:33,305 --> 00:19:35,615 Probably because you don't like hearing the truth. 320 00:19:36,208 --> 00:19:40,054 You are a very frustrating individual, you know that? 321 00:19:41,814 --> 00:19:43,987 How am I going to make you see? 322 00:19:44,050 --> 00:19:46,291 I can seejust fine, thank you. 323 00:19:52,625 --> 00:19:53,831 (CHUCKLES) 324 00:19:53,893 --> 00:19:55,167 That help at all? 325 00:19:56,529 --> 00:19:59,032 Nope. No, that did nothing for me. 326 00:19:59,131 --> 00:20:00,371 Tastes like liberal. 327 00:20:00,466 --> 00:20:03,310 (LAUGHS) It's not my thing. 328 00:20:05,805 --> 00:20:10,345 (O'BRIAN READING) 329 00:20:10,476 --> 00:20:14,151 Is it constitutional to bypass the Courts? 330 00:20:14,213 --> 00:20:16,819 No. The Fourth Amendment prevents searches 331 00:20:16,882 --> 00:20:18,327 and seizures without a warrant. 332 00:20:18,384 --> 00:20:21,922 That's absolutely right, Rio. Which means 333 00:20:22,755 --> 00:20:25,565 your Com mander-in-Chief, the President of the United States, 334 00:20:25,658 --> 00:20:27,501 is breaking the law. 335 00:20:28,694 --> 00:20:30,503 That is what you're saying, isn't it, Rio? 336 00:20:30,663 --> 00:20:35,544 Well, I guess it depends on who you talk to. 337 00:20:35,601 --> 00:20:37,444 O'BRIAN: And if you talk to journalists? 338 00:20:38,170 --> 00:20:41,947 Who, more often than not, don't have the full picture, 339 00:20:42,041 --> 00:20:45,511 or neglect to report it, you only get a partial truth. 340 00:20:49,181 --> 00:20:51,923 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. 341 00:20:52,017 --> 00:20:53,519 The FISA Court. 342 00:20:54,286 --> 00:20:57,290 We do respect the Fourth Amendment in this country, 343 00:20:57,389 --> 00:20:58,925 and we issue warrants based on suspicion. 344 00:20:59,024 --> 00:21:04,372 But sometimes these warrants have to be issued by secret courts, 345 00:21:04,430 --> 00:21:07,104 so we don't alert the suspects we're spying on. 346 00:21:07,199 --> 00:21:10,373 And these court proceedings are classified, 347 00:21:10,436 --> 00:21:12,211 which means, surprise... 348 00:21:13,572 --> 00:21:16,451 They don't appear in papers such as The New York Times. 349 00:21:17,877 --> 00:21:19,151 SNOWDEN: Did you see my test scores? 350 00:21:19,278 --> 00:21:22,555 HANK: Yes. Top of my class. Like you. What, here? 351 00:21:22,615 --> 00:21:25,653 NSA. They liked me plenty. 352 00:21:25,751 --> 00:21:30,063 They put me on all the best teams. Soviet frontier. Desert Storm. 353 00:21:30,489 --> 00:21:32,560 And then the big new challenge, 354 00:21:32,625 --> 00:21:37,165 find the terrorist in the Internet haystack. Hell of a haystack. 355 00:21:37,263 --> 00:21:38,674 Hundreds of terabytes a minute. 356 00:21:38,764 --> 00:21:41,677 I mean, it would take you 400 years to read the emails. 357 00:21:41,767 --> 00:21:43,804 Then you have to analyze them. 358 00:21:44,603 --> 00:21:46,844 Sometimes, the more you look, the less you see. 359 00:21:47,940 --> 00:21:49,783 Whafd you come up with? HANK: Something beautiful. 360 00:21:49,842 --> 00:21:52,254 In house. For $3 million. 361 00:21:52,311 --> 00:21:56,418 A program that could differentiate between foreign and domestic, 362 00:21:56,482 --> 00:22:00,123 encrypt every signal we weren't targeting, so it would remain private. 363 00:22:00,352 --> 00:22:02,457 It was elegant, streamlined. 364 00:22:02,521 --> 00:22:04,364 It was the best work I ever did. 365 00:22:05,925 --> 00:22:07,097 Have a seat. 366 00:22:08,694 --> 00:22:09,968 What was it called? 367 00:22:17,937 --> 00:22:23,148 Ed, rising to the top in our world 368 00:22:23,209 --> 00:22:26,554 can sometimes be hard on a man. 369 00:22:26,645 --> 00:22:31,025 I mean... You think you're making strides, 370 00:22:31,116 --> 00:22:33,790 you think you're taking the initiative. 371 00:22:34,620 --> 00:22:37,499 And then, the next minute, they grind your work out of existence. 372 00:22:38,023 --> 00:22:40,025 They didn't use it? Why not? 373 00:22:40,125 --> 00:22:42,537 HANK: Well, they never tell you why. 374 00:22:44,029 --> 00:22:46,669 Two years later, after 9/11 , 375 00:22:46,732 --> 00:22:48,040 a friend of mine tells me about 376 00:22:48,133 --> 00:22:50,909 this new contractor program they're using. 377 00:22:51,003 --> 00:22:53,483 Costs $4 billion to deploy. 378 00:22:53,539 --> 00:22:58,488 Modeled after mine but with no filters, no automation. 379 00:22:59,545 --> 00:23:03,220 Ingested everything. They were drowning in data. 380 00:23:03,315 --> 00:23:04,919 It was a fucking disaster. 381 00:23:05,017 --> 00:23:07,896 Okay, but there must have been some bigger picture, right? 382 00:23:07,987 --> 00:23:11,264 I mean, spending that kind of money'? They're not stupid. 383 00:23:11,357 --> 00:23:14,031 You would think intelligence would count for something 384 00:23:14,093 --> 00:23:16,004 in the intelligence business. 385 00:23:16,061 --> 00:23:19,440 Right. But you wanna know what it really is? 386 00:23:19,531 --> 00:23:21,738 What really sets the agenda? 387 00:23:22,735 --> 00:23:27,115 Military industrial happiness management. 388 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,042 You keep the coffers open in Congress, 389 00:23:30,109 --> 00:23:33,283 you keep the money flowing to the contractors. 390 00:23:33,379 --> 00:23:37,088 Efficiency, results? They go out the window. 391 00:23:37,917 --> 00:23:40,523 Not to mention... All right. 392 00:23:42,021 --> 00:23:43,125 Well, you're late for class. 393 00:23:43,255 --> 00:23:44,632 (BELL RINGING) 394 00:23:44,790 --> 00:23:46,633 Okay. Thank you. 395 00:23:48,394 --> 00:23:50,806 Can I take another one? Sure. 396 00:23:57,870 --> 00:24:00,407 Did you ever say anything to anybody? 397 00:24:00,472 --> 00:24:04,614 Yeah. I went to legal. We filed complaints. 398 00:24:04,710 --> 00:24:08,556 Now here I am, tucked away, teaching you. 399 00:24:11,317 --> 00:24:13,763 Maybe that's more important, in the long run. 400 00:24:14,620 --> 00:24:15,655 You're getting better. 401 00:24:31,570 --> 00:24:33,516 My favorite spot on campus. 402 00:24:36,108 --> 00:24:37,610 You hunt, Ed? 403 00:24:38,744 --> 00:24:40,087 SNOWDEN: Uh.,. 404 00:24:40,946 --> 00:24:43,483 Did some skeet shooting with my dad a few times, 405 00:24:43,582 --> 00:24:45,323 but, no, I never went hunting. 406 00:24:45,417 --> 00:24:46,623 O'BRIAN: We'll go one day. 407 00:24:46,685 --> 00:24:47,925 SNOWDEN: Thaw be great. 408 00:24:49,288 --> 00:24:50,961 Mr. O'Brian, can I ask you a question? 409 00:24:51,023 --> 00:24:52,798 How aboutjust calling me Corbin? 410 00:24:53,158 --> 00:24:56,696 Okay. (LAUGHS) Thank you, sir. Uh, Corbin. 411 00:24:57,663 --> 00:25:02,203 I was talking with Hank Forrester and I wanted to know, 412 00:25:02,301 --> 00:25:06,181 are all of our SIGINT programs specifically targeted? 413 00:25:06,939 --> 00:25:10,716 Of course. What good would they be if they weren't? Hmm? 414 00:25:12,177 --> 00:25:13,554 (LAUGHS) Yeah, I don't know. 415 00:25:15,848 --> 00:25:17,691 You have a girlfriend, Ed? 416 00:25:19,885 --> 00:25:21,523 Uh, nothing serious. 417 00:25:21,620 --> 00:25:23,031 What's her name? Lindsay. 418 00:25:23,122 --> 00:25:24,157 Lindsay. 419 00:25:25,457 --> 00:25:26,993 She going with you? 420 00:25:27,826 --> 00:25:30,670 No, lwouldnW want to put her in any danger. 421 00:25:30,729 --> 00:25:31,799 Well, you won't have to. 422 00:25:32,164 --> 00:25:34,303 We're not sending you to the Middle East. 423 00:25:39,571 --> 00:25:44,145 Sir, I'm your best student. Doesn't that count for something? 424 00:25:44,977 --> 00:25:49,392 In 20 years, Iraq will be a hellhole nobody cares about. 425 00:25:49,481 --> 00:25:51,518 Terrorism's a short-term threat. 426 00:25:51,583 --> 00:25:56,157 The real threats will come from China, Russia, Iran, 427 00:25:56,221 --> 00:25:59,065 and they'll come as SQL injections and malware. 428 00:25:59,158 --> 00:26:03,231 Without minds like yours, this country will be torn apart in cyberspace. 429 00:26:04,096 --> 00:26:05,507 I don't want to risk losing you 430 00:26:05,597 --> 00:26:08,339 for some horseshit war over sand and oil. 431 00:26:10,936 --> 00:26:12,847 Sir, I'm surprised to hear you say that 432 00:26:12,905 --> 00:26:16,284 You don't have to agree with your politicians to be a patriot. 433 00:26:16,375 --> 00:26:17,718 (CELL PHONE RINGING) 434 00:26:20,345 --> 00:26:22,791 Sir, where are you sending me? Take a moment. 435 00:26:23,449 --> 00:26:24,860 Enjoy the view. 436 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:28,921 Hey. 437 00:26:32,024 --> 00:26:33,765 (SIRENS BLARING) 438 00:26:34,927 --> 00:26:37,066 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 439 00:26:39,865 --> 00:26:41,208 (STATIC) 440 00:26:42,634 --> 00:26:44,113 (KNOCKING ON DOOR) 441 00:26:45,537 --> 00:26:46,572 (DOOR OPENS) 442 00:26:46,638 --> 00:26:47,878 GLENN: This is Laura. 443 00:26:48,474 --> 00:26:49,475 Hello. 444 00:26:49,575 --> 00:26:51,054 EWEN: Hello, nice to meet you. 445 00:26:51,877 --> 00:26:54,983 Hello, I'm Ewen MacAskill from the Guardian. It's nice to meet you. 446 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,286 Nice to meet you, too. 447 00:26:56,381 --> 00:26:59,885 Um, if you don't mind, uh, I'd like to record some of... 448 00:26:59,952 --> 00:27:02,330 Cell phones go in the microwave. 449 00:27:02,721 --> 00:27:03,791 Dare I ask why? 450 00:27:03,889 --> 00:27:06,335 We'll get to that. Afteryou ask your questions. 451 00:27:07,326 --> 00:27:08,464 WEN: Yeah, before.-. 452 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,631 Before we get on to the stories, I need to know more about you. 453 00:27:10,729 --> 00:27:15,144 Your career by Glenn's account is very varied, 454 00:27:15,234 --> 00:27:16,907 but the Guardian needs evidence that... 455 00:27:16,969 --> 00:27:20,007 Yeah. This is my diplomatic passport for friendly countries, 456 00:27:20,105 --> 00:27:21,982 my tourist passport for everywhere else. 457 00:27:22,074 --> 00:27:23,451 You can check the visa stamps. 458 00:27:23,509 --> 00:27:27,582 This is my NSA badge with Booz Allen, my CIA badge with Dell, 459 00:27:27,646 --> 00:27:30,752 and this is my DIA instructor's badge. 460 00:27:30,816 --> 00:27:33,763 This is a photo of me with Michael Hayden, 461 00:27:33,852 --> 00:27:36,765 who's a former head of the NSA and the CIA. 462 00:27:38,023 --> 00:27:39,161 When can you publish? 463 00:27:40,425 --> 00:27:43,634 Okay, um, do you mind if I sit down? No, please. 464 00:27:43,929 --> 00:27:48,207 EWEN: Uh, Glenn says you want to, uh... 465 00:27:48,467 --> 00:27:50,276 You want to tell people your identity. 466 00:27:50,335 --> 00:27:51,939 How do you think your government's going t0 react? 467 00:27:52,204 --> 00:27:54,616 Well, they'll charge me under the Espionage Act. 468 00:27:54,673 --> 00:27:57,381 And they'll say I endangered national security, 469 00:27:57,476 --> 00:28:00,184 and they'll demonize me, and my friends and family. 470 00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:03,021 (INHALES DEEPLY) And they'll throw me in jail. 471 00:28:03,115 --> 00:28:05,117 That's the best-case scenario. 472 00:28:05,217 --> 00:28:06,525 And the worst? 473 00:28:06,618 --> 00:28:08,825 Well, if I don't have any media cover, 474 00:28:08,887 --> 00:28:11,493 then I'll be rendered by the CIA 475 00:28:11,557 --> 00:28:13,901 and interrogated outside of the law. 476 00:28:13,992 --> 00:28:16,666 And they have a station right up the street. 477 00:28:16,728 --> 00:28:19,140 But how would they know what you did? 478 00:28:19,198 --> 00:28:22,736 Because I left a digital footprint in my logs, so they'll figure it out. 479 00:28:22,834 --> 00:28:24,814 I did not want a manhunt. 480 00:28:24,870 --> 00:28:27,043 I know what they would do to my colleagues. 481 00:28:28,340 --> 00:28:31,184 Look, Mr. MacAskill, uh, 482 00:28:31,243 --> 00:28:34,850 this is not about money or anything for me. 483 00:28:34,913 --> 00:28:36,187 There's no hidden agenda. 484 00:28:36,248 --> 00:28:40,060 I just wanted to get this data to established journalists like yourselves, 485 00:28:40,152 --> 00:28:42,359 so that you can present it to the world, 486 00:28:42,421 --> 00:28:45,994 and the people can decide either I'm wrong 487 00:28:46,992 --> 00:28:50,906 or there's something going on inside the government that's really wrong. 488 00:28:54,700 --> 00:28:55,735 Son. 489 00:28:58,270 --> 00:29:01,012 This one is everything I have 490 00:29:01,073 --> 00:29:04,020 on your British intelligence agency, the GCHQ. 491 00:29:04,076 --> 00:29:06,056 An encryption key will follow. 492 00:29:07,212 --> 00:29:09,715 You're gonna want your technical people at the Guardian 493 00:29:09,781 --> 00:29:11,021 to look through that thoroughly. 494 00:29:11,083 --> 00:29:13,029 There's a lot of stuff there. 495 00:29:13,552 --> 00:29:14,895 (INHALES DEEPLY) 496 00:29:16,021 --> 00:29:17,523 Listen, they're gonna investigate, 497 00:29:17,623 --> 00:29:20,604 and they're gonna figure out what I've done. 498 00:29:20,892 --> 00:29:22,803 And then they're gonna come for me. 499 00:29:22,894 --> 00:29:24,430 And now that we've made contact, 500 00:29:26,198 --> 00:29:28,041 they're gonna come for all of you, too. 501 00:29:33,238 --> 00:29:35,775 Uh... Um... 502 00:29:37,276 --> 00:29:38,914 Do you mind if I go look in the microwave? 503 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,260 Ewen. I'm on with Stuart. 504 00:29:51,323 --> 00:29:52,393 Hi, Ewen. 505 00:29:52,958 --> 00:29:56,337 Hi, Stuart. Look, I've got one thing to say. 506 00:29:56,495 --> 00:29:58,941 The Guinness here is great. JAN INE: (OVER PHONE) Wonderful. 507 00:29:58,997 --> 00:30:01,136 Oh, absolutely the genuine article. 508 00:30:01,233 --> 00:30:02,303 JANINE: (OVER PHONE) Good. 509 00:30:02,401 --> 00:30:04,847 But shockingly different from what you'd expect. 510 00:30:05,404 --> 00:30:10,649 So... (CLEARS THROAT) Now we have the lawyers to deal with. And no doubt the White House. 511 00:30:12,444 --> 00:30:13,445 I got the go ahead. 512 00:30:13,512 --> 00:30:14,820 That's greai. Oh, good. 513 00:30:14,913 --> 00:30:16,654 Let's get started. We have a lotto go through here, 514 00:30:16,748 --> 00:30:18,022 and it's not easy reading. 515 00:30:18,116 --> 00:30:19,925 LAURA: We can start by showing him XKeyscore. 516 00:30:19,985 --> 00:30:22,329 Good idea. Ed, can you bring it up again and walk us through it? 517 00:30:22,421 --> 00:30:23,491 Yeah. 518 00:30:26,925 --> 00:30:29,269 (CAMERA BEEPS, WHIRRING) 519 00:30:30,329 --> 00:30:32,275 Do we all get under there now? 520 00:30:32,364 --> 00:30:34,605 He's protecting his passwords. (KEYBOARD CLACKING) 521 00:30:35,667 --> 00:30:37,874 Okay. So... 522 00:30:41,206 --> 00:30:43,948 This was introduced 523 00:30:44,009 --> 00:30:48,515 during my first deployment at the CIA in Geneva. 524 00:30:48,613 --> 00:30:49,717 EWEN: "XKeyscore." 525 00:30:51,283 --> 00:30:52,626 What does that do? 526 00:30:52,951 --> 00:30:55,795 It's like a search interface. 527 00:30:57,489 --> 00:30:59,059 What does it search for? 528 00:30:59,358 --> 00:31:00,962 Anything you want. 529 00:31:02,194 --> 00:31:04,003 EWEN: What was your assignment in Geneva? 530 00:31:04,396 --> 00:31:09,311 SNOWDEN: Weli, I was assigned with diplomatic cover to the UN mission 531 00:31:09,368 --> 00:31:11,905 to maintain the CWs computer security network. 532 00:31:16,208 --> 00:31:20,213 Ispent almost two years around CIA field officers. 533 00:31:22,748 --> 00:31:25,024 I don't see a time stamp on any of this. 534 00:31:25,183 --> 00:31:26,662 We have a confirmation on the GSS. 535 00:31:26,818 --> 00:31:27,990 (PHONE RINGING) 536 00:31:28,186 --> 00:31:30,689 SNOWDEN: I'm sorry, sir, I don't understand. 537 00:31:30,756 --> 00:31:33,327 Sherman says you hacked the Human Resources site. 538 00:31:33,425 --> 00:31:35,234 Yeah, it's my job to find flaws. 539 00:31:35,494 --> 00:31:37,997 The security of the HR site is not your problem. 540 00:31:38,063 --> 00:31:39,667 You went outside the wheelhouse' 541 00:31:39,731 --> 00:31:42,177 Okay, but just to clarify, I did not hack it, 542 00:31:42,334 --> 00:31:44,746 I showed that it could be hacked. 543 00:31:44,836 --> 00:31:46,110 You told me to find a patch. 544 00:31:46,204 --> 00:31:47,376 You have that in writing? 545 00:31:47,439 --> 00:31:50,682 Yes, I do. Remember, I sent you the proof of concept. 546 00:31:53,779 --> 00:31:55,019 Doesn't matter what you did, Snowden. 547 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,686 Right or wrong, you need to let these things be someone else's problem. 548 00:31:58,016 --> 00:31:59,586 He's also put a derog in your file. 549 00:31:59,684 --> 00:32:01,095 Excuse me? Let that be a lesson. 550 00:32:01,186 --> 00:32:02,529 I don't want him calling me again 551 00:32:02,587 --> 00:32:04,362 about another Ed Snowden moment. 552 00:32:05,390 --> 00:32:06,801 Okay? 553 00:32:07,125 --> 00:32:09,036 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 554 00:32:10,195 --> 00:32:11,868 Why don't you take it easy the rest of the day? 555 00:32:11,930 --> 00:32:13,773 Go work on the scrubbing pile. 556 00:32:19,704 --> 00:32:21,377 That didn't look like it went well. 557 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:26,753 Oh, hey, man. Uh, yeah. No, I just got a derog for doing my job. 558 00:32:26,812 --> 00:32:30,419 (CHUCKLES) Politics, man. The culture of fear wins again. 559 00:32:30,549 --> 00:32:32,893 I can't get anything done here. Yeah. 560 00:32:33,318 --> 00:32:36,959 Hey, um, what about that idea that we were talking about? 561 00:32:37,055 --> 00:32:38,625 I'm working on it. I'm waiting for a call back 562 00:32:38,723 --> 00:32:40,225 from our friend at The Hill. 563 00:32:40,258 --> 00:32:41,999 Who, Corbin? You called Corbin? 564 00:32:42,093 --> 00:32:43,436 You think he can do something? 565 00:32:43,495 --> 00:32:46,499 We'll see. Maybe some limited field ops under my supervision. 566 00:32:46,598 --> 00:32:48,134 Yes, that would be amazing. I would love... 567 00:32:48,233 --> 00:32:51,976 Easy, Ed. I've gotta see a cleric in Milan. We'll talk after. 568 00:32:52,070 --> 00:32:53,913 Okay. Thank you. 569 00:32:57,409 --> 00:32:59,480 (MACHINE WHIRRING) 570 00:33:09,855 --> 00:33:11,095 (KNOCKS) 571 00:33:12,424 --> 00:33:14,802 Damn, CIA does not like to leave a trace, huh? 572 00:33:14,860 --> 00:33:15,861 Can I help you? 573 00:33:15,961 --> 00:33:17,668 You get curious to check one out? 574 00:33:18,163 --> 00:33:20,302 See what kind of crazy-ass covert kill mission 575 00:33:20,365 --> 00:33:21,469 you might be erasing from history? 576 00:33:21,533 --> 00:33:22,637 I'm sorry, who are you with? 577 00:33:22,934 --> 00:33:25,437 No Such Agency. I'm Gabriel Sol. 578 00:33:25,537 --> 00:33:28,848 I'm the SU-pound brain from the Council of Wizards and Warlocks. 579 00:33:29,474 --> 00:33:30,646 Excuse me? 580 00:33:30,709 --> 00:33:32,950 Oh. Giving you your intel for Bucharest, dude- 581 00:33:33,011 --> 00:33:34,957 Unless there's another Dave Churchyard. 582 00:33:35,013 --> 00:33:37,653 No. That's me. Right this way. 583 00:33:41,987 --> 00:33:44,297 I'll be right outside. Stay if you want. 584 00:33:44,356 --> 00:33:48,862 (SYSTEM B EE PS) Uh, I don't have authorization to use NSA programs. 585 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,030 Well, if you're the messenger to Bucharest, 586 00:33:50,128 --> 00:33:51,539 you must have a PRIVAC clearance 587 00:33:51,630 --> 00:33:53,234 to see the finished intel, yes? 588 00:33:54,065 --> 00:33:55,043 Yeah... 589 00:33:55,133 --> 00:33:56,305 GABRIEL: Yeah, so what difference does it make 590 00:33:56,368 --> 00:33:57,642 if you see how it's put together? 591 00:33:57,702 --> 00:34:00,148 (KEYBOARD CLACKING) 592 00:34:00,238 --> 00:34:01,808 Well, it's up to you, man. 593 00:34:07,212 --> 00:34:09,351 Uh, you're giving me just names? 594 00:34:09,414 --> 00:34:10,984 Uh, and a lot more than names. 595 00:34:11,383 --> 00:34:14,421 What I will be providing you and the fine gentlemen of the Secret Service 596 00:34:14,519 --> 00:34:19,400 is a list of every threat made about the President since February 3rd. 597 00:34:19,491 --> 00:34:21,994 And a profile of every threat-maker. 598 00:34:22,894 --> 00:34:26,899 And these are, like, existing targets? 599 00:34:26,998 --> 00:34:30,172 99% are gonna come from the bulk collection program, so... 600 00:34:30,335 --> 00:34:32,110 Upstream, Muscular, Tempora, PRISM. 601 00:34:33,004 --> 00:34:34,005 PRISM? 602 00:34:36,007 --> 00:34:37,850 You got a little Snow White in you. 603 00:34:38,944 --> 00:34:42,221 Which makes me feel like the witch bringing you a poisoned apple. 604 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,590 Here. Exhibit A. 605 00:34:44,683 --> 00:34:47,892 Oakland resident Justin Pinsky posted on a message board, 606 00:34:47,953 --> 00:34:50,729 "Romania has a storied history of executing their leaders, 607 00:34:50,789 --> 00:34:53,633 "couldn't they do us a solid and take out Bush?" 608 00:34:54,759 --> 00:34:57,535 Now this looks juicy. This is from a G-chat. 609 00:34:59,364 --> 00:35:02,868 "...with the biggest python you've ever seen." Hmm. 610 00:35:04,536 --> 00:35:06,379 How is this all possible? 611 00:35:06,438 --> 00:35:08,440 Um, keyword selectors. 612 00:35:08,540 --> 00:35:10,713 "Attack," "take Out Bush." 613 00:35:12,477 --> 00:35:14,047 So think of it as a Google search, 614 00:35:14,112 --> 00:35:16,092 except instead of searching only what people make public, 615 00:35:16,147 --> 00:35:18,388 we're also looking at everything they don't. So... 616 00:35:18,883 --> 00:35:20,760 Emails, chats, SMS, whatever. 617 00:35:20,819 --> 00:35:22,560 Yeah, but which people? 618 00:35:23,788 --> 00:35:25,563 The whole kingdom, Snow White. 619 00:35:30,061 --> 00:35:31,301 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 620 00:35:32,797 --> 00:35:34,470 Which ambassador was he again? 621 00:35:34,566 --> 00:35:37,137 De La Hoya, with World Trade Organization. 622 00:35:37,235 --> 00:35:38,305 Right. 623 00:35:38,670 --> 00:35:40,911 (STRING QUARTET PLAYING) 624 00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:53,151 MATT: So... 625 00:35:53,918 --> 00:35:55,625 O'Brian came through for you. 626 00:35:55,787 --> 00:35:59,428 He agrees your talents are being wasted. You ready for a little action? 627 00:36:00,191 --> 00:36:02,762 Really? What, you mean right here? 628 00:36:03,261 --> 00:36:05,172 Yeah. Now. 629 00:36:05,263 --> 00:36:07,334 See the woman in the pink number? 630 00:36:07,432 --> 00:36:12,177 Credit Suisse. JP. Morgan's on her arm- Grandma's with Deutsche Bank. 631 00:36:12,270 --> 00:36:14,113 Ten thousand bankers in this town. 632 00:36:14,172 --> 00:36:16,118 All you need to turn is one. 633 00:36:16,675 --> 00:36:18,279 Socialize. Meet a few. 634 00:36:18,343 --> 00:36:21,119 Preferably ones sitting on a pile of dirty Saudi money 635 00:36:21,179 --> 00:36:22,556 that's funding bin Laden. 636 00:36:22,681 --> 00:36:25,958 Thank you very much. Church. Church. Sure. Churchyard. 637 00:36:26,951 --> 00:36:28,953 (SPEAKING RUSSIAN) 638 00:36:33,825 --> 00:36:36,533 Mr. Debrinin asks your business card, please. 639 00:36:36,961 --> 00:36:39,305 An ambassador. Wow! (LAUGHING) 640 00:36:39,497 --> 00:36:41,374 I wish I had your schmoozing skills. 641 00:36:41,466 --> 00:36:43,309 Uh, well, that's why you have me. 642 00:36:43,401 --> 00:36:46,143 Yeah. You don't know any bankers, do you? Bankers? 643 00:36:46,971 --> 00:36:49,474 Are you on some kind of assignment or something? 644 00:36:50,975 --> 00:36:55,253 Um, "Relationship cultivating-" (SIGHS) And not well. 645 00:36:56,748 --> 00:36:58,056 Let me help you. 646 00:36:58,149 --> 00:36:59,253 No. Yeah. 647 00:36:59,517 --> 00:37:01,861 No, this is serious. I know it's serious. 648 00:37:02,187 --> 00:37:03,188 Trust me. 649 00:37:05,190 --> 00:37:06,498 Any luck? 650 00:37:06,825 --> 00:37:08,031 No, no bites. 651 00:37:09,527 --> 00:37:11,871 Is there some kind of trick to it? 652 00:37:12,564 --> 00:37:14,840 It's all about finding the pressure point. 653 00:37:14,899 --> 00:37:16,936 Everything else is just pushing on it. 654 00:37:19,604 --> 00:37:21,174 Looks like you're being summoned. 655 00:37:26,111 --> 00:37:28,682 ...we have to pay extra... Ma Man'? May I interrupt? 656 00:37:28,747 --> 00:37:29,919 This is my boyfriend, Dave. 657 00:37:30,014 --> 00:37:32,517 Hello, Dave. Nice to meet you. Nice t0 meet you. 658 00:37:32,584 --> 00:37:33,688 Marwan works at Monfori. 659 00:37:34,753 --> 00:37:37,256 We were talking, and after last week, 660 00:37:37,355 --> 00:37:39,130 he may be able to give you some tips. 661 00:37:39,224 --> 00:37:41,761 Gentlemen, I'll see you inside. Last week? 662 00:37:43,428 --> 00:37:46,705 He's embarrassed. It was a lot of money for us. 663 00:37:49,033 --> 00:37:51,240 Day trading is a perilous sport. (LAUGHS) 664 00:37:51,369 --> 00:37:53,747 You shouldn't be ashamed of it. Yeah. 665 00:37:54,439 --> 00:37:57,113 I'm gonna grab some food. See you guys inside? 666 00:37:57,208 --> 00:37:58,312 Sure. 667 00:37:59,978 --> 00:38:02,481 You have a lovely girlfriend. Thank you so much. 668 00:38:03,615 --> 00:38:05,595 You know, Iwork in IT, and so I just figured 669 00:38:05,717 --> 00:38:08,425 I could crack the market like a weak network. 670 00:38:08,553 --> 00:38:11,591 May I ask, how precipitous were your losses? 671 00:38:12,824 --> 00:38:15,464 Well, I told Lindsay it was 20,000, 672 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,404 but between you and me, it was closer to 45. 673 00:38:19,230 --> 00:38:22,643 Tried to recoup, but that was a mistake, 674 00:38:22,734 --> 00:38:24,304 and now without any real grounding, 675 00:38:24,402 --> 00:38:25,972 I feel like I'm just sliding out of control. 676 00:38:26,070 --> 00:38:27,947 Oh, I have seen it many times. 677 00:38:28,006 --> 00:38:29,815 And I'm always happy to help a man 678 00:38:29,908 --> 00:38:32,149 break a bad habit before it gets going. 679 00:38:32,243 --> 00:38:34,086 Oh, thank you. I really appreciate that 680 00:38:36,414 --> 00:38:39,156 GABRIEL: This is the cleanest Pakistani I've ever seen. 681 00:38:39,250 --> 00:38:41,423 We got no first-degree ties to government or ISI, 682 00:38:41,486 --> 00:38:42,931 no shady family. 683 00:38:43,988 --> 00:38:45,661 I mean, second-degree contacts are off the charts, 684 00:38:45,757 --> 00:38:47,327 but that's... I mean, that's everyone in the Middle East 685 00:38:47,425 --> 00:38:48,665 with a six-figure income. 686 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,537 Well, it's not dirt that we need necessarily, it's a pressure point. 687 00:38:52,630 --> 00:38:55,770 Something intimate, some kind of weakness. 688 00:38:55,867 --> 00:38:59,144 Can we look through his family? Mmm-hmm. 689 00:38:59,838 --> 00:39:03,615 GABRIEL: How about his sister-in-law? 690 00:39:04,876 --> 00:39:05,946 Yeah. 691 00:39:08,513 --> 00:39:11,824 What is that, is that some video that she sent somebody? 692 00:39:11,883 --> 00:39:14,295 No, this is live. Out of Paris. 693 00:39:14,552 --> 00:39:15,792 What do you mean, live? 694 00:39:16,621 --> 00:39:19,568 GABRIEL: Optic Nerve. It's camera and mic activation. 695 00:39:19,724 --> 00:39:21,726 I wish we could take credit, but the Brits wrote it. 696 00:39:21,826 --> 00:39:23,169 Activation? 697 00:39:23,228 --> 00:39:25,174 GABRIEL: Yeah, her laptop's off. 698 00:39:25,230 --> 00:39:26,868 Or was, she just forgot to close it. 699 00:39:26,965 --> 00:39:28,000 Of course, how would she know? 700 00:39:28,066 --> 00:39:30,637 This shit is so sly, the webcam light doesn't even turn on. 701 00:39:38,176 --> 00:39:41,214 Hmm. I always wondered what was under those. 702 00:39:48,753 --> 00:39:51,199 Okay, look, let's stick to family in Geneva. 703 00:39:51,422 --> 00:39:52,730 All right? 704 00:39:52,824 --> 00:39:54,826 Okay, Snow White. Uh... 705 00:39:55,660 --> 00:39:58,334 Fifteen-year-old daughter at the International School. 706 00:39:58,396 --> 00:40:02,742 Yeah. Uh, Facebook? Is that possible? 707 00:40:02,834 --> 00:40:04,507 Dude, Facebook's my bitch. 708 00:40:04,569 --> 00:40:06,048 Seriously? (KEYBOARD CLACKING) 709 00:40:06,337 --> 00:40:09,511 Like, she fights with her parents, or... 710 00:40:09,574 --> 00:40:12,885 Don't worry, don't worry. I know all the hooks for this kind of fishing. 711 00:40:13,511 --> 00:40:17,357 Uh, query name. So email, keyword, whatever selector you want. 712 00:40:18,016 --> 00:40:21,190 And justification is where I write... 713 00:40:23,421 --> 00:40:26,561 In other words, turning your daddy into a CIA informant. 714 00:40:26,691 --> 00:40:28,796 Wait, that's it? (INHALES DEEPLY) That's it, bro. 715 00:40:29,594 --> 00:40:32,473 You don't have to get a FISA court order? 716 00:40:32,931 --> 00:40:35,434 Mmm-mmm. No, not here. XKeyscore's under 702 authority, 717 00:40:35,533 --> 00:40:37,376 which means no warrants. 718 00:40:37,602 --> 00:40:41,106 Okay, but U.S. targets then, you'd have to get the court order? 719 00:40:41,205 --> 00:40:44,743 You mean FISA? Yeah, they're just a big-ass rubber stamp, dude. 720 00:40:44,809 --> 00:40:46,482 I mean, FISAjudges are all appointed by 721 00:40:46,577 --> 00:40:49,148 the Chief Justice, who's like, you know... 722 00:40:50,481 --> 00:40:53,257 Darth Vader when it comes to national security. Boom. 723 00:40:53,751 --> 00:40:55,230 Here we go. 724 00:40:57,255 --> 00:41:02,671 Okay, okay. And the boy at third base is... 725 00:41:04,896 --> 00:41:10,073 Nadim. Okay. He's 18. 726 00:41:11,336 --> 00:41:12,440 Salma says she wants to marry him, 727 00:41:12,503 --> 00:41:14,312 but is scared of telling her parents. 728 00:41:14,472 --> 00:41:19,751 What she doesn't know is that his other name is Nicolas. 729 00:41:21,279 --> 00:41:23,589 And he's currently banging Geraldine and Julie. 730 00:41:25,616 --> 00:41:26,686 And... 731 00:41:31,522 --> 00:41:33,627 He and his Turkish mother are here illegally. 732 00:41:38,930 --> 00:41:39,965 Hat's it. 733 00:41:42,767 --> 00:41:44,769 (MUSIC PLAYING) 734 00:41:48,473 --> 00:41:50,510 STRIPPER: Ah, you like that? 735 00:41:50,608 --> 00:41:52,144 MARWAN: I love these. 736 00:41:55,380 --> 00:41:56,950 Man, what are we doing here? 737 00:41:57,448 --> 00:41:59,826 You're making people very happy. 738 00:41:59,884 --> 00:42:02,387 Mr. Marwan's bank handles serious Saudi money, 739 00:42:02,487 --> 00:42:04,797 and a whole bunch of Russian billionaires. 740 00:42:04,856 --> 00:42:09,066 What about any al-Qaeda money? Anything promising? 741 00:42:10,461 --> 00:42:12,702 Ed, I'm up for a promotion soon. 742 00:42:12,797 --> 00:42:14,674 I will not forget my friends. 743 00:42:15,466 --> 00:42:16,740 Thank you. 744 00:42:16,801 --> 00:42:18,371 This is all going kind of fast though, right? (LAUGHS) 745 00:42:18,469 --> 00:42:20,380 I mean, I just sent some initial background. 746 00:42:20,471 --> 00:42:22,576 There he is! The man! 747 00:42:22,673 --> 00:42:23,913 Hey, Manuan! 748 00:42:24,008 --> 00:42:27,182 Dave. How wonderful to see you. 749 00:42:27,245 --> 00:42:28,519 Good to see you, too. 750 00:42:28,646 --> 00:42:33,425 Uh, I was counting, Marwan, you snuck in an extra half hour back there. 751 00:42:33,518 --> 00:42:37,364 (LAUGHS) I'm afraid she was merely listening to an old man's woes. 752 00:42:37,422 --> 00:42:38,423 (LAUGHS) on, I see. 753 00:42:38,523 --> 00:42:40,366 So, how are you, Marwan? 754 00:42:42,593 --> 00:42:46,040 I must tell you, Dave, since we met, 755 00:42:46,831 --> 00:42:50,005 my life has gone somewhat topsy-tu rvy. 756 00:42:51,335 --> 00:42:53,178 Oh, no, I'm sorry to hear that 757 00:42:53,671 --> 00:42:55,241 But your colleague Charles here 758 00:42:55,339 --> 00:42:57,546 has graciously offered his help. 759 00:42:57,608 --> 00:42:59,918 So I owe him and you a great deal. 760 00:43:00,011 --> 00:43:01,718 Can I ask what happened? 761 00:43:03,347 --> 00:43:05,918 My daughter had an... 762 00:43:06,017 --> 00:43:08,964 Marwan's daughter took too many sleeping pills. 763 00:43:09,053 --> 00:43:10,623 She's all right. 764 00:43:10,721 --> 00:43:13,634 It had something to do with her boyfriend, who was recently deported. 765 00:43:13,724 --> 00:43:15,635 We're trying to secure a visa for him. 766 00:43:15,726 --> 00:43:19,196 And even so, I'm afraid that Salma will... 767 00:43:21,199 --> 00:43:23,611 I'm sorry. I won't trouble you with such matters. 768 00:43:23,701 --> 00:43:27,547 No, no, you... Hey. You talk as much as you want. 769 00:43:27,605 --> 00:43:30,279 All right? Family comes first. 770 00:43:30,441 --> 00:43:31,886 (LAUGHS SOFTLY) 771 00:43:38,716 --> 00:43:40,593 (ALL LAUGHING) 772 00:43:40,918 --> 00:43:42,158 Whoa! Oh! 773 00:43:43,054 --> 00:43:44,260 There's my beauty. 774 00:43:46,424 --> 00:43:48,165 I'm never like this before. 775 00:43:48,259 --> 00:43:50,102 Oh, sure. Nu, oi course. 776 00:43:50,161 --> 00:43:52,334 You sit down, huh? Sit tight. 777 00:43:54,065 --> 00:43:56,909 You sit tight. (BOTH LAUGHING) 778 00:43:59,070 --> 00:44:00,481 What the fuck's going on? 779 00:44:00,571 --> 00:44:02,517 I have been acting swiftly and effectively 780 00:44:02,607 --> 00:44:05,645 on the very good signals intelligence you've provided. 781 00:44:05,977 --> 00:44:08,150 And if his daughter had died? 782 00:44:08,246 --> 00:44:09,987 We could have used that too. 783 00:44:10,081 --> 00:44:12,152 Are you serious? What, in the name of a promotion? 784 00:44:12,250 --> 00:44:13,661 (BEEPS) 785 00:44:15,253 --> 00:44:18,700 Marwan can't be away from his family right now. 786 00:44:18,789 --> 00:44:20,996 So in the morning, when he's facing a week in jail, 787 00:44:21,092 --> 00:44:24,164 we're going to offer him a deal and he won't turn it clown. 788 00:44:24,262 --> 00:44:25,434 Wait, jail? For what'? 789 00:44:26,430 --> 00:44:27,534 Drunk driving. 790 00:44:27,632 --> 00:44:30,010 Now, I want you to call the police. 791 00:44:30,101 --> 00:44:31,341 Tell 'em you saw a Mercedes headed north... 792 00:44:31,435 --> 00:44:32,641 No, he's not driving right now. 793 00:44:32,703 --> 00:44:34,512 Look at him, he'll kill himself. 794 00:44:37,608 --> 00:44:39,451 Okay. I'll call 'em. Hey! 795 00:44:40,945 --> 00:44:42,117 He's not driving. 796 00:44:43,147 --> 00:44:46,959 Remind me, are you authorized on any of the NSA programs you used? 797 00:44:49,287 --> 00:44:51,233 So we're both doing a little fucked up shit here, huh? 798 00:44:52,723 --> 00:44:55,067 Watch yourself, Ed. I will tell him who you are. 799 00:44:56,627 --> 00:44:59,369 You reveal the identity of an undercover officer, 800 00:44:59,463 --> 00:45:02,137 you're going to jail for a lot longer than Marwan. 801 00:45:08,472 --> 00:45:09,473 MARWAN: Hey! 802 00:45:23,187 --> 00:45:24,257 Hey. 803 00:45:24,855 --> 00:45:26,163 Sorry I'm so late. 804 00:45:28,993 --> 00:45:30,267 How was work? 805 00:45:32,763 --> 00:45:34,071 Itwas, uh... 806 00:45:35,866 --> 00:45:38,176 (SIGHS) It was all right. Yeah. 807 00:45:39,570 --> 00:45:42,779 (INHALES DEEPLY) I have to wake up in, like, three hours. 808 00:45:42,873 --> 00:45:44,352 My flighfs at mo. 809 00:45:45,276 --> 00:45:46,755 (SIGHS) 810 00:45:47,678 --> 00:45:49,624 Well, we'd better be quick, then. 811 00:45:50,014 --> 00:45:51,357 (BOTH CHUCKLING) 812 00:46:08,199 --> 00:46:09,644 (MOANING) 813 00:46:11,636 --> 00:46:13,377 (BREATHES DEEPLY) 814 00:46:20,611 --> 00:46:22,557 (BOTH MOANING) 815 00:46:35,559 --> 00:46:38,836 I will provide our intelligence and law enforcement agencies 816 00:46:38,929 --> 00:46:41,739 with the tools they need to track and take out the terrorism 817 00:46:41,832 --> 00:46:44,813 without undermining our constitution and our freedom. 818 00:46:45,736 --> 00:46:47,477 (DOOR OPENS) That means no more illegal wiretapping 819 00:46:47,571 --> 00:46:48,811 of American citizens. 820 00:46:48,906 --> 00:46:52,149 No more ignoring the law when ii is inconvenient. 821 00:46:52,243 --> 00:46:53,654 That is not who we are. 822 00:46:54,078 --> 00:46:55,318 Hey, hon. Hey. 823 00:46:55,746 --> 00:46:58,522 (LAUGHS) What happened to the London trip? 824 00:46:58,649 --> 00:47:00,492 {REPORTERS SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY ON TV) 825 00:47:00,951 --> 00:47:02,430 Turns out I'm not going. 826 00:47:03,354 --> 00:47:04,526 Oh. 827 00:47:06,123 --> 00:47:08,034 What's going on? Who's winning? 828 00:47:08,125 --> 00:47:10,196 CORRESPONDENT: ...and Michefle Obama voted this morning in Chicago. 829 00:47:10,294 --> 00:47:11,705 I voted. CORRESPONDENT: In Arizona--. 830 00:47:11,929 --> 00:47:13,033 Still early. 831 00:47:13,130 --> 00:47:15,269 ...John and Cindy McCain voted, and then they landed in Colorado 832 00:47:15,366 --> 00:47:17,175 to defend a traditionally Republican state 833 00:47:17,268 --> 00:47:18,679 that has turned into a battleground. 834 00:47:18,769 --> 00:47:19,770 Hey. Let's see. 835 00:47:20,204 --> 00:47:23,378 WOLF: (on TV) Obama ahead 67% to 32%-.. (EXHALES DEEPLY) 836 00:47:23,474 --> 00:47:26,614 Come on, big ears. Check out Florida. 837 00:47:31,782 --> 00:47:33,887 Holy shit, he's gonna win it! (LAUGHS) 838 00:47:34,285 --> 00:47:36,356 What, Florida? Yeah! 839 00:47:36,454 --> 00:47:38,456 That's big. Yeah. It's huge! 840 00:47:40,124 --> 00:47:43,537 You can act all nonchalant, but I know you were starting to root for him. 841 00:47:44,395 --> 00:47:46,341 I've been watching your inner liberal grow. 842 00:47:46,397 --> 00:47:48,570 For which I will take a modest percentage of the credit. 843 00:47:48,666 --> 00:47:50,668 And you deserve it. (LINDSAY LAUGHING) 844 00:47:50,735 --> 00:47:51,805 (CLEARS TH ROAT) 845 00:47:54,238 --> 00:47:55,308 What is this? 846 00:47:55,373 --> 00:47:56,579 WOLF: ...in Missouri. 847 00:47:56,741 --> 00:47:59,381 56% for McCain, 43% for Obama. 848 00:47:59,477 --> 00:48:02,981 Oh, yeah, that. Just.-. Leave that there. That's, uh... 849 00:48:04,482 --> 00:48:07,053 Russian hackers. The Agency says 850 00:48:07,151 --> 00:48:09,688 they can activate webcams now. So... 851 00:48:09,754 --> 00:48:10,755 That's creepy. 852 00:48:10,855 --> 00:48:13,096 Yes. It's really bothering me. 853 00:48:14,325 --> 00:48:16,737 Whatever. It's not a big deal. You shouldn't let it bother you. 854 00:48:16,861 --> 00:48:18,568 It's not a big deal? No. 855 00:48:18,662 --> 00:48:21,006 What, that someone could be watching you right now? 856 00:48:21,599 --> 00:48:24,273 No, I'm not hiding anything. 857 00:48:25,403 --> 00:48:29,010 (EXHALES DEEPLY) That's such a bullshit line. What is? 858 00:48:29,106 --> 00:48:31,552 I have nothing to hide. I don't. 859 00:48:31,609 --> 00:48:32,781 Everyone does. 860 00:48:33,577 --> 00:48:35,887 Okay, well then, what do I have to hide? 861 00:48:36,614 --> 00:48:38,719 (SIG HS) Forget it. No, what do I have to hide? 862 00:48:38,783 --> 00:48:40,626 No, never... Let's just drop it. 863 00:48:40,718 --> 00:48:44,063 Well, apparently you think that I'm hiding something, so...(LAUGHS) 864 00:48:44,121 --> 00:48:46,567 Okay, the other day, your computer was open, 865 00:48:46,624 --> 00:48:49,434 and I happened to notice you were on the site where we met, 866 00:48:49,527 --> 00:48:50,767 and you were looking at other guys. 867 00:48:50,861 --> 00:48:53,034 You just were looking at my computer? 868 00:48:53,864 --> 00:48:55,138 I wouldn't have even brought this up. 869 00:48:55,232 --> 00:48:57,234 You asked me, "What do I have to hide?" 870 00:48:57,301 --> 00:48:59,303 That's something you're not telling me. 871 00:49:01,205 --> 00:49:05,779 (STUTTERS) Well, it's not... I don't do anything, 872 00:49:05,876 --> 00:49:08,083 I don't meet any of those people. 873 00:49:11,148 --> 00:49:12,786 You're gone for weeks at a time. 874 00:49:12,917 --> 00:49:15,397 So it's like I'm peering into other peoples' lives 875 00:49:15,486 --> 00:49:17,488 because my own is just temporarily on hold. 876 00:49:18,722 --> 00:49:20,065 That sounds like an excuse. 877 00:49:21,158 --> 00:49:22,398 It's the truth. 878 00:49:25,129 --> 00:49:26,267 (SIGHS) 879 00:49:38,843 --> 00:49:42,347 I should have told you. And I didn't. 880 00:49:42,446 --> 00:49:46,087 I'm really sorry. But it's not a big deal. 881 00:49:50,921 --> 00:49:51,922 Hey. 882 00:49:56,026 --> 00:49:57,369 (BREATHES DEEPLY) 883 00:50:01,098 --> 00:50:04,636 Look at me. I don't want anyone else. 884 00:50:06,470 --> 00:50:08,177 I don't want any other life. 885 00:50:09,773 --> 00:50:10,808 Okay? 886 00:50:25,523 --> 00:50:26,968 Listen, uh... 887 00:50:29,193 --> 00:50:32,538 I didn't go to London today 'cause I resigned. 888 00:50:34,698 --> 00:50:35,733 What? 889 00:50:36,166 --> 00:50:38,009 It was personal differences, 890 00:50:38,068 --> 00:50:40,173 and it was a matter of principle. 891 00:50:41,305 --> 00:50:42,875 Can you tell me anything else? 892 00:50:46,577 --> 00:50:47,920 Do you get reposted, or... 893 00:50:48,012 --> 00:50:50,652 No, no, I resigned from the CIA. 894 00:50:52,182 --> 00:50:54,184 LINDSAY: So what does that mean? What do we do? 895 00:50:54,251 --> 00:50:57,698 I don't know. I'll figure it out, but listen, I... 896 00:51:00,224 --> 00:51:03,603 This is a good thing. Trust me. 897 00:51:08,265 --> 00:51:09,505 I do. 898 00:51:11,702 --> 00:51:13,079 (LAUGHS SOFTLY) 899 00:51:15,839 --> 00:51:17,182 (EXHALES DEEPLY) 900 00:51:20,210 --> 00:51:21,848 He'!- 901 00:51:22,279 --> 00:51:23,451 He's gonna win. 902 00:51:25,049 --> 00:51:26,585 WOLF: (ON TV) 52% for Obama, 48% for McCain. 903 00:51:26,684 --> 00:51:27,890 Yeah, he'd better. 904 00:51:29,186 --> 00:51:33,100 CNN can now project that Barack Obama, 47 years old, 905 00:51:33,190 --> 00:51:35,898 will become the President of the United States- (PEOPLE CHEERING) 906 00:51:36,460 --> 00:51:39,964 OBAMA: {ON W3 Every agency and department should know that this administration 907 00:51:40,064 --> 00:51:41,304 stands on the side 908 00:51:41,398 --> 00:51:43,537 not of those who seek to withhold information, 909 00:51:43,601 --> 00:51:45,444 but those who seek to make it known. 910 00:51:48,105 --> 00:51:49,948 GLENN: Janine is the website editor 911 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,987 of a small stateside office of a British newspaper, 912 00:51:53,077 --> 00:51:55,614 up against the most powerful government in the world. 913 00:51:55,713 --> 00:51:56,953 EWEN: She won't be bullied. 914 00:51:57,381 --> 00:51:59,418 We need to establish that we're not compromising 915 00:51:59,483 --> 00:52:01,326 national security by publishing. 916 00:52:01,418 --> 00:52:02,954 GLENN: We need to have alternatives. 917 00:52:03,053 --> 00:52:04,396 Listen, Ed, 918 00:52:04,455 --> 00:52:06,833 the real issue here is that they, the White House, 919 00:52:06,924 --> 00:52:10,235 are aware that Janine has a leaked top secret FISA court order. 920 00:52:10,294 --> 00:52:11,466 Anything could happen. 921 00:52:11,562 --> 00:52:12,973 They mum subpoena me Guardian 922 00:52:13,063 --> 00:52:14,133 and, for that matter, they could 923 00:52:14,231 --> 00:52:15,574 break through that door any minute, 924 00:52:15,633 --> 00:52:17,613 ending all of this. 925 00:52:17,668 --> 00:52:19,909 We are running out of time. 926 00:52:19,970 --> 00:52:23,076 We seriously have t0 think about doing this on our own website. 927 00:52:23,140 --> 00:52:24,448 We have no choice. 928 00:52:24,508 --> 00:52:26,317 Wait, you can't just start dumping articles 929 00:52:26,443 --> 00:52:28,252 on the Internet, Glenn! Be serious. 930 00:52:28,312 --> 00:52:30,986 Look at WikiLeaks. It destroyed their credibility. 931 00:52:31,081 --> 00:52:32,651 Look, Ed, you said it yourself, 932 00:52:32,750 --> 00:52:36,163 ifthis isn't done properly, the world isn't gonna take notice. 933 00:52:36,253 --> 00:52:39,632 You need experienced journalists to lead the public 934 00:52:39,690 --> 00:52:42,170 through some very, very complicated stories. 935 00:52:42,259 --> 00:52:43,761 We are experienced journalists. 936 00:52:44,328 --> 00:52:45,671 My feeling... (PHONE RINGING) 937 00:52:52,970 --> 00:52:56,179 Has anyone called here before'? Not once. Not in three weeks. 938 00:52:56,273 --> 00:52:57,843 Well, I'll... Shall I answer it? 939 00:52:57,975 --> 00:52:59,613 I'll tell 'em it's the wrong number. 940 00:53:01,278 --> 00:53:02,450 Yes? 941 00:53:03,947 --> 00:53:05,358 No, I don't. 942 00:53:06,984 --> 00:53:08,463 Okay. Thank you. 943 00:53:11,288 --> 00:53:13,199 Asking if I want turndown service. 944 00:53:13,290 --> 00:53:15,793 She said the "Do not disturb" sign was off the door. 945 00:53:21,331 --> 00:53:22,571 (DOOR CLOSES) 946 00:53:28,706 --> 00:53:30,481 (EWEN SIGHS) 947 00:53:32,309 --> 00:53:33,652 (DOOR CLOSES) 948 00:53:33,877 --> 00:53:35,049 So? 949 00:53:36,246 --> 00:53:39,318 Do we wait? Or go on our own? 950 00:53:41,051 --> 00:53:42,223 Look, I said from the beginning 951 00:53:42,319 --> 00:53:45,323 that how you publish is your business, 952 00:53:45,389 --> 00:53:47,164 and I trust you. 953 00:53:47,224 --> 00:53:50,000 The only thing I ask is you study the data, you be responsible, 954 00:53:50,060 --> 00:53:52,734 no names, no specifics, anything ongoing 955 00:53:52,830 --> 00:53:54,935 that's critical, you don't release. 956 00:53:55,032 --> 00:53:57,444 You just stick to the issue of mass surveillance 957 00:53:57,534 --> 00:53:58,569 and let the people decide. 958 00:53:58,669 --> 00:54:01,741 GLENN: You have our word on that, but that's not the question. We have to ask... 959 00:54:01,839 --> 00:54:03,512 EWEN: Look, Ed, Ed, 960 00:54:03,574 --> 00:54:05,952 right now the White House is arranging a conference call 961 00:54:06,043 --> 00:54:08,114 between Janine and the intelligence services. 962 00:54:08,212 --> 00:54:11,284 Now that's gonna happen in a few hours. 963 00:54:11,381 --> 00:54:15,261 Let's at least wait for that, see what they say to her. 964 00:54:19,857 --> 00:54:21,894 I'd say we pause a moment. 965 00:54:23,193 --> 00:54:24,570 EWEN: Yeah, I think we should reassemble 966 00:54:24,628 --> 00:54:26,107 in this room after the call takes place, 967 00:54:26,196 --> 00:54:29,871 so that's around midnight. Be noon in New York. 968 00:54:30,601 --> 00:54:32,103 All right. 969 00:54:32,202 --> 00:54:34,546 I'll take another pass at the PRISM story in the meantime. 970 00:54:34,605 --> 00:54:38,485 Okay. We'll be in our hotel room if you need us, okay? 971 00:54:38,575 --> 00:54:39,576 Thanks, Ewen. 972 00:54:39,643 --> 00:54:40,815 Yeah. Okay. 973 00:54:44,214 --> 00:54:45,557 (DOOR CLOSES) 974 00:54:48,418 --> 00:54:51,228 Uh, do you mind maybe we take a break from that? 975 00:54:51,555 --> 00:54:53,091 For a second? 976 00:54:54,391 --> 00:54:56,667 Oh, yeah. Sure, sorry. (CAMERA BEE PS) 977 00:54:56,827 --> 00:55:00,240 You wanna take a look? Might make you feel better. 978 00:55:00,397 --> 00:55:03,071 On. (LAUGHS) It's not recording, just on standby. 979 00:55:03,133 --> 00:55:04,476 Okay. (LAUGHS) 980 00:55:06,804 --> 00:55:10,479 When did this start for you? Not wanting your photo taken? 981 00:55:10,774 --> 00:55:13,152 Uh, probably in Japan. (EXHALES DEEPLY) 982 00:55:13,243 --> 00:55:15,746 I remember every time a camera got pointed at me, 983 00:55:15,813 --> 00:55:18,157 it was like... Couldn't breathe. 984 00:55:19,149 --> 00:55:20,628 Why was that? 985 00:55:21,084 --> 00:55:25,464 I probably, uh, spent too much time looking at other people through cameras. 986 00:55:26,590 --> 00:55:28,866 Japan was your first NSA job, right? 987 00:55:28,959 --> 00:55:33,931 Yeah, well, as a contractor with Dell. Had a lot of access. 988 00:55:34,431 --> 00:55:36,433 LAURA: Why'd you go back after Geneva? 989 00:55:39,503 --> 00:55:43,178 'Cause the money, and 'cause I wanted to live in Japan. 990 00:55:43,273 --> 00:55:45,014 And because of Obama, actually. 991 00:55:45,108 --> 00:55:47,714 You know, lthought things were gonna get better with him. 992 00:55:51,114 --> 00:55:52,491 I was wrong. 993 00:55:55,819 --> 00:55:57,958 (INDISTINCT CHATTER OVER PA) 994 00:55:58,021 --> 00:55:59,193 LAURA". What was I! like there? 995 00:56:00,290 --> 00:56:02,236 SNOWDEN: Well, in the first pan' of my day, 996 00:56:02,326 --> 00:56:06,536 I was building this round-the-clsck backup system cailed Epic Shelter. 997 00:56:06,630 --> 00:56:09,133 So, if there was some catastrophe, 998 00:56:09,199 --> 00:56:12,078 say, uh, terrorists burned down every embassy 999 00:56:12,169 --> 00:56:14,706 and NSA post in the Middle East. 1000 00:56:14,805 --> 00:56:19,481 This program would ensure we wouldn't Jose any of that data. 1001 00:56:19,810 --> 00:56:23,553 But then, I would ha ve to put it aside when visitors would show up. 1002 00:56:23,647 --> 00:56:24,648 Hi, Ed. 1003 00:56:24,715 --> 00:56:29,528 SNOWDEN; NSA wanted to Impress the Japanese, show them our reach. 1004 00:56:30,487 --> 00:56:33,229 They loved the live drone feeds. 1005 00:56:33,323 --> 00:56:35,496 This is over Pakistan. 1006 00:56:36,393 --> 00:56:37,736 Right now. 1007 00:56:38,328 --> 00:56:40,069 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 1008 00:56:40,497 --> 00:56:44,001 SNOWD EN: They were not as thrilled to ream that we wanted them to help us 1009 00:56:44,067 --> 00:56:46,206 spy on the Japanese population. 1010 00:56:47,337 --> 00:56:50,079 They said it was against their laws. 1011 00:56:51,241 --> 00:56:53,414 Course we tapped the entire country anyway. 1012 00:56:54,378 --> 00:56:56,358 And we didn't stop there, 1013 00:56:56,413 --> 00:56:58,552 'cause once we owned their communications systems, 1014 00:56:58,615 --> 00:57:01,562 we started going after their physical infrastructure. 1015 00:57:01,618 --> 00:57:05,930 We'd siip these little sleeper programs into power grids, 1016 00:57:06,023 --> 00:57:07,969 dams, hospitals, 1017 00:57:08,058 --> 00:57:10,129 and the idea was if the day came 1018 00:57:10,227 --> 00:57:12,605 when Japan was no longer an ally, 1019 00:57:12,696 --> 00:57:14,039 it'd be lights out. 1020 00:57:14,131 --> 00:57:15,940 (POWERING DOWN) 1021 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:18,474 And ii wasn't just the Japanese. 1022 00:57:18,568 --> 00:57:22,072 We were planting malware in Mexico, Germany, 1023 00:57:22,139 --> 00:57:23,880 Brazil, Austria. 1024 00:57:25,409 --> 00:57:28,913 I mean, China I can understand, or Russia, or Iran, 1025 00:57:28,979 --> 00:57:31,721 or Venezuela, okay. But Austria? 1026 00:57:31,782 --> 00:57:32,988 (COWBELL DINGS) 1027 00:57:33,450 --> 00:57:36,488 You're also being ordered to follow most world leaders 1028 00:57:36,586 --> 00:57:38,156 and heads of industry. 1029 00:57:38,255 --> 00:57:41,566 You know, you're tracking trade deals, sex scandals, 1030 00:57:41,892 --> 00:57:44,566 diplomatic cables to give the U. S. 1031 00:57:44,628 --> 00:57:47,131 an advantage in negotiations at the G8, 1032 00:57:47,230 --> 00:57:50,803 or leverage over Brazilian oil companies, 1033 00:57:50,901 --> 00:57:55,077 or helping to oust some third-worm reader who's not playing bah'. 1034 00:57:56,406 --> 00:57:58,647 And ultimately, the truth sinks in 1035 00:57:58,742 --> 00:58:01,586 that no matter what justification you're sefling youiself, 1036 00:58:01,645 --> 00:58:03,955 this is not about terrorism. 1037 00:58:05,482 --> 00:58:07,291 Terrorism is the excuse. 1038 00:58:10,253 --> 00:58:14,963 This is about economic and social control. 1039 00:58:16,593 --> 00:58:19,096 And the only thing you're really protecting 1040 00:58:19,162 --> 00:58:21,540 is the supremacy of your government. 1041 00:58:30,841 --> 00:58:34,015 LAU RA: Were you thinking about going to journalists then? 1042 00:58:34,111 --> 00:58:37,058 No. No, that wouldn't have occurred to me back then. 1043 00:58:38,648 --> 00:58:42,687 I just thought, you know, the system will self-correct, 1044 00:58:42,786 --> 00:58:46,290 and the President will keep his promise that got him elected... 1045 00:58:48,458 --> 00:58:52,201 That's actually when I first started reading about you and your films. 1046 00:58:52,295 --> 00:58:53,365 It was in Glenn's blog. 1047 00:58:53,463 --> 00:58:56,535 You were being detained in airports for hours. 1048 00:58:56,633 --> 00:59:00,479 Thirty-seven times. For investigating your own country's wars. 1049 00:59:00,637 --> 00:59:05,143 (SIGHS) That's why I'm going back to Berlin t0 edit. You can trust me with this. 1050 00:59:05,642 --> 00:59:07,815 I do. Yeah. 1051 00:59:08,979 --> 00:59:12,722 I haven't trusted anyone in years. 1052 00:59:15,986 --> 00:59:21,561 It was a welcome change when they put me on terrorism watch duty. 1053 00:59:22,225 --> 00:59:25,934 Every day, Vd go in and I'd get starting points fur SIGiNT, 1054 00:59:26,029 --> 00:59:28,669 which is signals intelligence. (KEYBOARD CLACKING) 1055 00:59:30,167 --> 00:59:33,910 A lot of them were American, which felt strange, 1056 00:59:34,004 --> 00:59:35,847 but you just keep reminding yourself, 1057 00:59:35,906 --> 00:59:39,911 I could stop a dirty bomb attack and save thousands o! lives. 1058 00:59:40,577 --> 00:59:43,956 The thing is, you're not just following your bad guy targets. 1059 00:59:44,047 --> 00:59:46,584 You're also following their metadata, 1060 00:59:46,683 --> 00:59:50,688 which is basically ail the phone numbers that they're in touch with. 1061 00:59:51,588 --> 00:59:55,297 Let's say your target is a shady Iranian banker 1062 00:59:55,392 --> 00:59:57,929 operating out of Beirut, okay. 1063 00:59:58,028 --> 01:00:00,440 So you're watching his stuff, but you're also watching 1064 01:00:00,530 --> 01:00:02,976 all the people that he talks to. 1065 01:00:03,066 --> 01:00:05,637 Including, you know, his cousin, 1066 01:00:05,735 --> 01:00:08,272 who's/us! some dentist living in Buffalo. 1067 01:00:08,371 --> 01:00:11,147 And then you have to watch all of that guy's contacts. 1068 01:00:11,241 --> 01:00:14,620 And by the time you go a third hop out from {he original target, 1069 01:00:14,711 --> 01:00:20,218 you're watching this bartender chat with her mother about Botox. 1070 01:00:20,283 --> 01:00:25,289 'Cause three hops from anyone with, say, 40 contacts, 1071 01:00:25,388 --> 01:00:27,994 you're looking at a list of 2.5 million people. 1072 01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:32,665 And there's ma! moment when 1073 01:00:32,762 --> 01:00:36,335 you're sitting there and the scale of it hits you. 1074 01:00:36,433 --> 01:00:41,143 The NSA is really tracking every cell phone in the world. 1075 01:00:41,238 --> 01:00:43,081 No matter who you are, 1076 01:00:43,140 --> 01:00:45,814 every day of your life, you're sitting in a database 1077 01:00:45,909 --> 01:00:48,480 just ready to be looked at. 1078 01:00:48,578 --> 01:00:50,285 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 1079 01:00:59,022 --> 01:01:04,665 SNOWDEN: And not just terrorists, or countries, or corporations, but you. 1080 01:01:13,270 --> 01:01:15,307 Was Lindsay with you in Japan? 1081 01:01:17,107 --> 01:01:20,680 Japan was difficult for us. 1082 01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:25,660 I guess you couldn't talk about your work. 1083 01:01:25,849 --> 01:01:27,328 No. (LAUGHS) 1084 01:01:28,852 --> 01:01:32,561 There was this one night, uh, towards the end, 1085 01:01:34,291 --> 01:01:37,170 when, uh, we were supposed to go climb Mount Fuji the next day... 1086 01:01:41,298 --> 01:01:43,073 (some PLAYING) 1087 01:01:44,501 --> 01:01:45,502 Wow! 1088 01:01:47,404 --> 01:01:49,884 Are you gonna post that on Twitter? 1089 01:01:49,973 --> 01:01:50,974 No. 1090 01:01:51,308 --> 01:01:53,720 They're just for me. What do you think? 1091 01:01:56,346 --> 01:01:58,257 You should delete those. 1092 01:01:58,415 --> 01:02:01,089 That's not quite the artistic critique I was going for. 1093 01:02:01,351 --> 01:02:03,058 I'm sorry. You just... You should... 1094 01:02:03,153 --> 01:02:04,928 You can't have stuff like that on your hard drive. 1095 01:02:05,021 --> 01:02:06,056 LINDSAY: Yes, I can. 1096 01:02:06,156 --> 01:02:10,070 Can you just please... I'm asking you, can you delete them? 1097 01:02:10,860 --> 01:02:12,168 Russian hackers again? 1098 01:02:12,229 --> 01:02:13,264 No... 1099 01:02:15,865 --> 01:02:17,173 Is it us? 1100 01:02:19,936 --> 01:02:21,074 It's classified. 1101 01:02:22,672 --> 01:02:23,878 Am I a target? 1102 01:02:23,940 --> 01:02:25,214 Of course not. 1103 01:02:26,509 --> 01:02:28,750 Clearly someone is looking at my nude portraits. 1104 01:02:28,845 --> 01:02:30,722 Okay. I shouldn't have brought it up. 1105 01:02:30,780 --> 01:02:33,124 All right? It's issues of national security. 1106 01:02:35,218 --> 01:02:37,391 Well, lam flattered that my boobs 1107 01:02:37,454 --> 01:02:39,365 are considered an issue of national security, 1108 01:02:39,422 --> 01:02:41,129 but you're gonna have to do a lot better than that. 1109 01:02:41,224 --> 01:02:43,704 I'd rather not talk about stuff that could land us in jail. 1110 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,535 LINDSAY: So that's what the Band-Aids are about, then? 1111 01:02:45,595 --> 01:02:47,438 And your camera phobia? 1112 01:02:47,530 --> 01:02:48,736 Because of work? 1113 01:02:49,699 --> 01:02:51,110 Are they watching us? 1114 01:02:51,868 --> 01:02:53,472 Who are they watching? No one, okay? 1115 01:02:53,570 --> 01:02:55,208 Let's just stop talking about it. 1116 01:02:56,406 --> 01:02:59,944 Let's go to bed, and wake up in the morning, 1117 01:03:01,378 --> 01:03:03,654 and go climb this fucking mountain. All right? 1118 01:03:04,714 --> 01:03:06,091 Of course we're not gonna talk about it. 1119 01:03:06,216 --> 01:03:07,490 What is that supposed to mean? 1120 01:03:07,584 --> 01:03:10,064 It means that we don't talk about anything anymore. 1121 01:03:10,754 --> 01:03:13,394 You work 12-hour days, you come home depressed, 1122 01:03:13,456 --> 01:03:15,800 you play fucking video games, and then you fall asleep. 1123 01:03:15,892 --> 01:03:17,565 Yeah, I'm tired 'cause I have a job. 1124 01:03:17,627 --> 01:03:19,072 That's what pays for this apartment 1125 01:03:19,129 --> 01:03:20,836 in the most expensive city in the world. 1126 01:03:20,930 --> 01:03:24,173 Which you asked me to come to knowing that I did not have a work visa. 1127 01:03:24,267 --> 01:03:25,473 Okay, what if you had one? 1128 01:03:25,568 --> 01:03:29,106 Would you really give up your beautiful life of eating and sleeping 1129 01:03:29,172 --> 01:03:31,743 and going out all the time? You think you'd really want a career? 1130 01:03:31,808 --> 01:03:35,153 A career like yours? Where I'm miserable all the time? No. 1131 01:03:35,245 --> 01:03:37,418 That's called responsibility. 1132 01:03:38,081 --> 01:03:40,152 (CHUCKLES) Fuck this. 1133 01:03:40,250 --> 01:03:42,093 You know what? You have no fucking idea 1134 01:03:42,152 --> 01:03:44,826 what it's like to be accountable for other people's lives, 1135 01:03:44,921 --> 01:03:46,992 because you live in a fairy tale land 1136 01:03:47,090 --> 01:03:49,001 where just there are no consequences, 1137 01:03:49,092 --> 01:03:50,662 and no one ever gets hurt. 1138 01:03:51,528 --> 01:03:52,939 (SIGHS) 1139 01:03:53,663 --> 01:03:58,112 (VOICE BREAKING) No. No, you, you don't get hurt. 1140 01:03:59,602 --> 01:04:00,945 (SOBS) I get fucking crushed. 1141 01:04:01,037 --> 01:04:02,846 Fucking bullshit! I've done nothing to you! 1142 01:04:02,939 --> 01:04:04,885 That's exactly right. You have done nothing! 1143 01:04:05,942 --> 01:04:08,013 You don't hang outwith me, you don't laugh with me, 1144 01:04:08,111 --> 01:04:10,955 you don't even fucking touch me anymore. 1145 01:04:13,149 --> 01:04:14,389 I'm sorry. Stop! 1146 01:04:14,984 --> 01:04:16,657 No! (SOBS) 1147 01:04:29,733 --> 01:04:32,145 We, uh, never made it to Mount Fuji. (LAUGHS SOFTLY) 1148 01:04:33,636 --> 01:04:37,311 And Lindsay left pretty soon after that, and... 1149 01:04:38,975 --> 01:04:40,511 I was really lonely there. 1150 01:04:42,145 --> 01:04:44,216 But after three months, I left too. I went back to Maryland. 1151 01:04:45,715 --> 01:04:47,217 (DOORBELL RINGING) 1152 01:05:08,538 --> 01:05:09,676 (CHUCKLES) 1153 01:05:12,675 --> 01:05:14,245 And I promised her I'd change. 1154 01:05:15,245 --> 01:05:17,088 And, uh, we moved back in together. 1155 01:05:17,180 --> 01:05:18,523 (PIANO MUSIC PLAYING} Make sure your knees stay bent, 1156 01:05:18,581 --> 01:05:21,528 and then you can fully extend once you feel stable. Ready? 1157 01:05:21,584 --> 01:05:23,621 One, two, three. 1158 01:05:24,354 --> 01:05:25,355 All the way up. 1159 01:05:25,422 --> 01:05:26,924 Now you wanna clench between your knees. 1160 01:05:27,023 --> 01:05:29,435 It'll burn, but it's a good burn. 1161 01:05:29,526 --> 01:05:30,470 Perfect. 1162 01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:32,039 Twirl around. 1163 01:05:33,596 --> 01:05:35,872 (CLAPPING) Perfect! Oh, my God, I'm so proud of you! 1164 01:05:35,932 --> 01:05:37,775 SNOWDEN: When you're really happy, 1165 01:05:37,867 --> 01:05:41,212 there's a large part of you that just wants to stay happy. 1166 01:05:45,375 --> 01:05:48,549 And you start to think, what could be more important than this? 1167 01:05:49,712 --> 01:05:51,214 What! Is it okay? 1168 01:05:51,915 --> 01:05:54,054 Oh, my God. It's so beautiful. 1169 01:05:55,585 --> 01:05:59,624 3NOWDEN: You know, tots of people cruise happily through fife. 1170 01:06:01,257 --> 01:06:02,736 Why can't I? (CAMERA CLICKING) 1171 01:06:11,734 --> 01:06:13,270 And I went back to work at the CIA. 1172 01:06:13,436 --> 01:06:15,074 With back-doors.-. 1173 01:06:15,138 --> 01:06:17,914 My official {me was Solutions Consultant. 1174 01:06:18,842 --> 01:06:22,016 Basically I was hawking overpriced hardware for a living. 1175 01:06:22,111 --> 01:06:23,818 But I thought you had resigned? 1176 01:06:23,913 --> 01:06:26,359 Yeah, well, it was all contract work after Geneva. 1177 01:06:26,449 --> 01:06:28,690 You know, it's Bouz Allen Hamilton, 1178 01:06:28,785 --> 01:06:30,856 or Dell, in partnership 1179 01:06:30,954 --> 01:06:33,992 with CIA or NSA, DIA. 1180 01:06:34,591 --> 01:06:38,630 That's the intelligence community's revolving door. 1181 01:06:40,163 --> 01:06:42,643 How was it? Being back in the States? 1182 01:06:43,132 --> 01:06:46,670 It was, uh, it was really good to be home. 1183 01:06:49,005 --> 01:06:53,147 But Maryland was where things started to turn for me. 1184 01:06:53,877 --> 01:06:58,553 Every tlme I felt like I was finally letting go of all the anxiety 1185 01:06:58,648 --> 01:07:01,219 and all the questions that used to keep me up at night, 1186 01:07:01,317 --> 01:07:05,231 I'd learn something else, and I just couldn't ignore it. 1187 01:07:05,455 --> 01:07:09,232 Like, there were these three high-ieve! officials at the NSA, 1188 01:07:09,325 --> 01:07:12,033 Bin Binney, Ed Loomis, and Kirk Wiebe. 1189 01:07:12,128 --> 01:07:16,338 They'd been filing complaints about abuse and overreach for years. 1190 01:07:16,399 --> 01:07:20,211 That's all they did, they just filed complaints, 1191 01:07:20,303 --> 01:07:23,477 and the FBI raided their homes. 1192 01:07:23,540 --> 01:07:25,076 Then there was Thomas Drake. 1193 01:07:25,174 --> 01:07:27,154 Like the other three guys, Drake was trying 1194 01:07:27,210 --> 01:07:29,486 to change things from the inside. 1195 01:07:29,546 --> 01:07:31,992 Bu! when nothing worked, he did go to the press. 1196 01:07:32,048 --> 01:07:35,996 So they hit him with the Espionage Act, and we were shocked. 1197 01:07:36,052 --> 01:07:37,998 The whale imel community. 1198 01:07:38,054 --> 01:07:39,362 SCOTT: (ON VIDEO) Why do you think you were charged? 1199 01:07:39,422 --> 01:07:40,992 To send a chilling message. 1200 01:07:41,357 --> 01:07:42,358 To whom? 1201 01:07:42,425 --> 01:07:45,031 To other whistleblowers, to others in the government, 1202 01:07:45,094 --> 01:07:47,199 not to speak out. 1203 01:07:47,263 --> 01:07:51,336 Do not tell truth to power. We'll hammer you. 1204 01:07:52,902 --> 01:07:55,576 0'BRIAN: There's a new program being developed 1205 01:07:55,672 --> 01:07:58,016 at the NSA's op center on Oahu. 1206 01:07:59,008 --> 01:08:02,581 You'd be going up against Chinese cyber divisions. 1207 01:08:03,846 --> 01:08:05,018 You interested? 1208 01:08:07,617 --> 01:08:10,928 Won't be the vast sums of money you're making now, 1209 01:08:11,020 --> 01:08:13,466 but you'd be performing a critical service for your country. 1210 01:08:13,556 --> 01:08:14,899 I know that's important to you. 1211 01:08:14,958 --> 01:08:17,268 You mean service like in Geneva? 1212 01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,204 Matt was a mistake. Shouldn't have pushed you into that. 1213 01:08:20,263 --> 01:08:21,298 You didn't push me into it. 1214 01:08:21,397 --> 01:08:23,536 I asked for exposure to field ops, you gave it to me. 1215 01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:25,307 I won't hold that against you. 1216 01:08:27,370 --> 01:08:29,873 Is there something you do hold against me? 1217 01:08:33,910 --> 01:08:35,218 You didn't tell me we were running 1218 01:08:35,278 --> 01:08:37,554 a dragnet on the whole world, Corbin. 1219 01:08:40,717 --> 01:08:42,492 (nos BARKING) 1220 01:08:49,058 --> 01:08:51,231 (GUNSHOTS) 1221 01:09:01,170 --> 01:09:02,410 Great shooting, Ed. 1222 01:09:02,472 --> 01:09:03,815 Thank you. 1223 01:09:04,273 --> 01:09:05,843 That's terrific. 1224 01:09:06,409 --> 01:09:08,753 (LAUGHS) It's the one thing in the Army I was good at. 1225 01:09:14,751 --> 01:09:16,458 OBRIAN: You ever think, Ed, 1226 01:09:16,519 --> 01:09:21,366 since the Second World War, it's been 60 years and still no WW Ill. 1227 01:09:22,291 --> 01:09:23,429 Why? 1228 01:09:24,427 --> 01:09:28,341 Because we've used our power generally for the good of the world. 1229 01:09:29,032 --> 01:09:31,945 For prosperity, order. 1230 01:09:32,168 --> 01:09:33,875 How can we defend ourselves against 1231 01:09:33,970 --> 01:09:37,179 nuclear war, terror attacks, cyber-attacks 1232 01:09:37,273 --> 01:09:39,651 without a centralized intel factory 1233 01:09:39,709 --> 01:09:41,620 working around the world night and day? 1234 01:09:42,378 --> 01:09:45,222 So we should catalogue billions of people's lives? 1235 01:09:45,314 --> 01:09:48,693 CYBRIAN: Most people already catalogue their lives for public consumption. 1236 01:09:48,785 --> 01:09:51,959 Well, they catalogue part of their lives, and they do it by choice. 1237 01:09:52,021 --> 01:09:54,467 We're not giving them the choice. We're just taking everything. 1238 01:09:54,524 --> 01:09:58,301 Most Americans don't want freedom, they want security. 1239 01:09:59,128 --> 01:10:00,698 It's a simple bargain. If... 1240 01:10:00,797 --> 01:10:02,743 Good girl! Good girl! (GROWLS) 1241 01:10:03,633 --> 01:10:05,374 If you want to play with all the new toys 1242 01:10:05,468 --> 01:10:08,415 and be safe, you pay the price of admission. 1243 01:10:10,006 --> 01:10:12,646 Yeah, except people, 1244 01:10:12,709 --> 01:10:14,484 they don't even know they've made that bargain. 1245 01:10:14,544 --> 01:10:16,820 Where's the modern battlefield, soldier? 1246 01:10:18,648 --> 01:10:19,649 Everywhere. 1247 01:10:19,982 --> 01:10:22,360 (MAN SHOUTING) CTBRIAN: What's the first rule of battle? 1248 01:10:22,518 --> 01:10:24,156 Never reveal your position. 1249 01:10:25,088 --> 01:10:29,901 And if one unauthorized person knew? If Congress knew? 1250 01:10:29,992 --> 01:10:31,733 So would the enemy. 1251 01:10:31,828 --> 01:10:35,867 That, Mr. Snowden, is the state of the world. 1252 01:10:35,932 --> 01:10:39,607 Secrecy is security, and security is victory. 1253 01:10:40,103 --> 01:10:42,447 (PEOPLE SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY IN THE DISTANCE) 1254 01:10:43,706 --> 01:10:45,185 (nos BARKS) 1255 01:10:47,343 --> 01:10:48,879 Thank you, sir. 1256 01:10:50,513 --> 01:10:51,719 Someone I want you to meet. 1257 01:10:51,781 --> 01:10:53,761 MAN: Beautiful day for it, wasn't it? Perfect weather. 1258 01:10:53,850 --> 01:10:56,353 Mr. Lowell. Jim. 1259 01:10:56,786 --> 01:10:58,766 How are you? Dorian. 1260 01:10:58,855 --> 01:11:00,232 Alan. Nice to see you. 1261 01:11:00,289 --> 01:11:01,393 O'BRIANI Welcome to the U.S. 1262 01:11:01,457 --> 01:11:03,061 H0w'd you make out today, Corbin? 1263 01:11:03,192 --> 01:11:05,968 Uh, very mediocre. Nothing like Ed here. 1264 01:11:06,562 --> 01:11:09,406 Apparently the Army's training people to shoot straight. 1265 01:11:09,465 --> 01:11:11,274 So this is Ed Snowden. 1266 01:11:11,367 --> 01:11:12,573 Yes, sir. Pleasure to meet you. 1267 01:11:12,702 --> 01:11:15,080 The brains behind Epic Shelter. That's right. 1268 01:11:15,138 --> 01:11:16,446 That's brilliant work. Thank you, sir. 1269 01:11:16,539 --> 01:11:17,950 Yeah, I had a few questions I wanted to ask you. 1270 01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,884 Uh, Jim. Will you excuse me, gentlemen? 1271 01:11:21,310 --> 01:11:22,755 Excuse me, Alan. Nice to meet you. 1272 01:11:23,546 --> 01:11:27,995 Yeah, it's proving very useful to our UAV program. 1273 01:11:28,084 --> 01:11:31,293 Yes, I heard. With foreign site intel transfer. 1274 01:11:31,387 --> 01:11:32,957 Transfers happen on collection now. 1275 01:11:33,055 --> 01:11:36,400 They go straight to the Pentagon, Mossad if they need it. 1276 01:11:36,492 --> 01:11:39,234 Actionable immediately. No one sees it. 1277 01:11:39,395 --> 01:11:40,635 It's improved the response time 1278 01:11:40,730 --> 01:11:42,607 of our drone pilots by a factor of ten. 1279 01:11:43,232 --> 01:11:46,645 Tell me, Ed. You worked signals intelligence in Japan too, yes? 1280 01:11:46,736 --> 01:11:47,806 Yes, sir. 1281 01:11:47,904 --> 01:11:49,645 How'd you like it? 1282 01:11:49,739 --> 01:11:53,243 It was a very empowering job, sir. (LAUGHS) 1283 01:11:53,342 --> 01:11:57,518 With this new job in Hawaii, you'd have even more access. 1284 01:11:57,613 --> 01:12:01,755 I asked Corbin to start the conversation. But the offer is mine. 1285 01:12:03,786 --> 01:12:05,356 Take your time. 1286 01:12:05,454 --> 01:12:06,592 It's going to take a few months 1287 01:12:06,656 --> 01:12:08,966 to get this program on its feet. 1288 01:12:09,025 --> 01:12:11,665 If you'll excuse me, gentlemen, I see dinner. 1289 01:12:12,795 --> 01:12:14,604 ATTENDANT: Beer, sir? Thank you. 1290 01:12:15,298 --> 01:12:17,107 Sir, for you? Uh, no, thank you. 1291 01:12:22,772 --> 01:12:24,809 Epic Shelter was meant as a backup program. 1292 01:12:26,108 --> 01:12:29,521 Lowell is creating this position for you, Ed. 1293 01:12:29,612 --> 01:12:32,183 You'd be the first contractor outside Fort Meade 1294 01:12:32,281 --> 01:12:33,954 working counter-cyber. 1295 01:12:35,117 --> 01:12:37,188 It's your ticket to the top. 1296 01:12:44,126 --> 01:12:46,003 (MEAT SIZZLING) 1297 01:12:48,297 --> 01:12:49,970 POLYGRAPH ADMINISTRATOR: Do you believe the United States 1298 01:12:50,032 --> 01:12:52,012 is the greatest country in the world? 1299 01:12:52,068 --> 01:12:53,706 Yes. (BEEPING) 1300 01:12:55,238 --> 01:12:56,239 POLYGRAPH ADMINISTRATOR: Have you ever used 1301 01:12:56,339 --> 01:12:59,013 any programs you were unauthorized for'? 1302 01:13:04,981 --> 01:13:06,016 SNOWDENI No. 1303 01:13:06,482 --> 01:13:07,483 (BEEPS) 1304 01:13:18,427 --> 01:13:21,203 LINDSAY: We're not usually supposed to submit our own work, 1305 01:13:21,264 --> 01:13:24,575 but my editor said she'd make an exception. 1306 01:13:24,667 --> 01:13:25,702 Pretty neat, huh? 1307 01:13:31,007 --> 01:13:33,180 (GRUNTS) I get to submit an entry. 1308 01:13:36,379 --> 01:13:38,950 You ignoring me on purpose, orwhat? 1309 01:13:39,048 --> 01:13:41,551 No. Sorry. Shit. Uh.“ 1310 01:13:42,018 --> 01:13:44,396 (SIGHS) I was just thinking. 1311 01:13:44,453 --> 01:13:45,693 About what? 1312 01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,372 I wanted to talk to you about it at dinner, 1313 01:13:53,429 --> 01:13:55,705 but let's just... Will you come sit down? 1314 01:13:57,133 --> 01:13:59,238 Is everything okay? 1315 01:13:59,302 --> 01:14:00,542 Yeah. 1316 01:14:01,570 --> 01:14:02,810 Um... 1317 01:14:03,572 --> 01:14:07,543 The, uh, Deputy Director of the NSA... 1318 01:14:07,610 --> 01:14:09,089 Hmm? (INHALES DEEPLY) 1319 01:14:09,245 --> 01:14:11,418 He offered me a new position. 1320 01:14:11,580 --> 01:14:14,561 And, uh, that was a while back, and now they need an answer. 1321 01:14:15,785 --> 01:14:17,890 Well, is it something you want to do? 1322 01:14:19,288 --> 01:14:21,097 I'd be good at it. 1323 01:14:23,059 --> 01:14:25,505 Can you tell me anything about it? (LAUGHING) 1324 01:14:25,795 --> 01:14:27,570 (LAUGHS) You know I can't. 1325 01:14:27,630 --> 01:14:30,474 I know. Mission first 1326 01:14:31,133 --> 01:14:32,476 (INHALES DEEPLY) 1327 01:14:32,635 --> 01:14:35,241 Well, are there social perks? White House galas, maybe? 1328 01:14:35,438 --> 01:14:39,443 The position is in Hawaii. 1329 01:14:47,416 --> 01:14:50,295 We worked really hard to get where we're at. 1330 01:14:51,754 --> 01:14:54,963 And you're willing to just rip it all up again? 1331 01:14:55,024 --> 01:14:56,935 Like we finally have a house that we love, 1332 01:14:56,993 --> 01:14:58,836 and a job that I like, and real friends, 1333 01:14:58,928 --> 01:15:00,930 and we're close to our families. I... I understand. 1334 01:15:00,997 --> 01:15:03,876 And if you want to stay, then we're staying. 1335 01:15:04,433 --> 01:15:05,503 Hat's it. 1336 01:15:06,836 --> 01:15:08,338 Don't just say that 'cause I wanna hear it. 1337 01:15:08,437 --> 01:15:09,438 I'm not. 1338 01:15:13,709 --> 01:15:16,121 I let you go once, I'm not gonna do it again. 1339 01:15:21,484 --> 01:15:22,986 (LID RATTLING) 1340 01:15:23,886 --> 01:15:25,832 Shit. I'm sorry. The pasta. 1341 01:15:25,955 --> 01:15:27,491 It's gonna... One sec. (LIN DSAY CHUCKLES) 1342 01:15:38,868 --> 01:15:40,347 You know, I think I actually came pretty close 1343 01:15:40,403 --> 01:15:42,474 to getting it right this time. 1344 01:15:42,905 --> 01:15:44,316 LINDSAY: I'll get some candles. 1345 01:16:23,345 --> 01:16:26,189 (VOICE ECHOING) Oh, my God! Ed! Ed! Ed! 1346 01:16:30,086 --> 01:16:31,360 (INAUDIBLE) 1347 01:16:43,199 --> 01:16:44,735 SNOWDEN: I know Tegretot. 1348 01:16:45,868 --> 01:16:47,905 I know it slows you down, 'cause I've seen it in my mom. 1349 01:16:47,970 --> 01:16:50,712 She's taken all kinds of medications her whole life. 1350 01:16:51,207 --> 01:16:53,744 Well, they work in 70% of cases. 1351 01:16:56,212 --> 01:16:59,455 Ed, epilepsy is a serious condition. 1352 01:16:59,548 --> 01:17:02,461 If you have a seizure driving yourself, 1353 01:17:02,551 --> 01:17:04,622 or with someone else in the car, 1354 01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:08,133 or you're in a place where you could fall, 1355 01:17:08,224 --> 01:17:10,727 this is not something to be lightly regarded. 1356 01:17:10,793 --> 01:17:13,569 It's essential you commit yourself to this medication. 1357 01:17:16,065 --> 01:17:17,305 Okay? 1358 01:17:19,268 --> 01:17:20,338 Yeah. 1359 01:17:25,608 --> 01:17:27,110 After you. Oh, thank you. 1360 01:17:27,243 --> 01:17:28,483 (BOTH LAUGHING) 1361 01:17:31,480 --> 01:17:34,324 I've been thinking about what the doctor said. 1362 01:17:34,416 --> 01:17:35,918 About less stress. 1363 01:17:38,621 --> 01:17:40,601 A warmer climate could help. 1364 01:17:43,425 --> 01:17:44,927 (INHALES DEEPLY) 1365 01:17:45,261 --> 01:17:47,935 If Hawaii is something that we decide 1366 01:17:47,997 --> 01:17:51,206 would be better for you, I'll go. 1367 01:18:08,784 --> 01:18:11,355 WEN: Janine, how'cl the White House conversation go? 1368 01:18:11,453 --> 01:18:12,454 JANINE: (OVER PHONE) I made it quire clear 1369 01:18:12,521 --> 01:18:15,468 that we were in possession of an authentic HSA court order. 1370 01:18:15,524 --> 01:18:18,004 They wanted to see it. We refused. 1371 01:18:18,060 --> 01:18:20,472 Now I just pray that it's actually authentic. 1372 01:18:21,964 --> 01:18:23,705 Are you actually questioning that? 1373 01:18:23,799 --> 01:18:26,643 Glenn, no one has ever seen a FISA court order. 1374 01:18:26,702 --> 01:18:28,375 There's no precedent here. 1375 01:18:28,470 --> 01:18:31,417 Our source risked his life for that document. It's real. 1376 01:18:32,074 --> 01:18:35,681 Tell us, did the White House make any specific claims 1377 01:18:35,744 --> 01:18:39,157 about national security that would prevent you from publishing? 1378 01:18:39,815 --> 01:18:45,026 No. I asked them repeatedly, and they had no substantive answer. 1379 01:18:45,087 --> 01:18:46,395 Then, there you go! What more do you want? 1380 01:18:46,488 --> 01:18:48,229 You can go out and know that you're safe. 1381 01:18:48,324 --> 01:18:52,329 Glenn, Yd ilke to talk to Alan before we go any further. 1382 01:18:52,394 --> 01:18:53,429 EWEN: When does he land? 1383 01:18:53,529 --> 01:18:54,735 STUART: (OVER COMPUTER) In six hours. 1384 01:18:54,830 --> 01:18:57,834 No. Absolutely not! We're sitting ducks here, Janine. 1385 01:18:58,334 --> 01:18:59,677 It's 1:00 p.m. in New York. 1386 01:18:59,735 --> 01:19:01,408 If you don't get this out in the next four hours, 1387 01:19:01,503 --> 01:19:03,244 you'll miss the evening news on the East Coast. 1388 01:19:03,339 --> 01:19:05,785 But we can post later tonight. 1389 01:19:07,343 --> 01:19:08,287 I'm sorry, Glenn. 1390 01:19:08,377 --> 01:19:10,584 But Alan's our edilonin-chief, and I really think that“... 1391 01:19:10,679 --> 01:19:13,523 Bullshit! The government knows that we have these documents now. 1392 01:19:13,582 --> 01:19:16,927 The CIA could barge through this door any minute, and you want more time! 1393 01:19:17,953 --> 01:19:20,866 Act like a fucking journalist and stop stringing us along! 1394 01:19:20,923 --> 01:19:24,097 I just stood my ground with the goddamn White House! 1395 01:19:24,193 --> 01:19:25,433 We risked my career! 1396 01:19:25,527 --> 01:19:27,438 How dare you question my commitment to this story! 1397 01:19:27,529 --> 01:19:28,906 Okay, let's just keep our voices down... 1398 01:19:28,964 --> 01:19:30,102 No, you're right. lam questioning it. 1399 01:19:30,199 --> 01:19:32,543 This is absolutely inappropriate. 1400 01:19:33,302 --> 01:19:35,373 We are publishing ourselves. You're out. 1401 01:19:36,038 --> 01:19:37,449 (SCOFFS) 1402 01:19:46,048 --> 01:19:47,118 All right, Glenn. 1403 01:19:47,216 --> 01:19:49,560 We'll have it ready by 4:00 p.m. 1404 01:19:50,219 --> 01:19:53,063 I have to go over the story once more. Why'!? 1405 01:19:53,222 --> 01:19:55,930 Because it still needs editing, damn you. 1406 01:19:55,991 --> 01:19:58,938 All this fucking inteliigence jargon is hurting our brains. 1407 01:19:58,994 --> 01:20:02,669 This PRISM story is stiff incomprehensible. 1408 01:20:02,765 --> 01:20:04,267 PRISM is the second story, Janine. 1409 01:20:04,333 --> 01:20:06,176 Verizon is the first story. 1410 01:20:06,268 --> 01:20:08,805 Have it ready to post by 4:00 p.m., 5:00 at the latest. 1411 01:20:08,904 --> 01:20:10,144 Ugh.._... 1412 01:20:10,339 --> 01:20:11,477 No games, or we're gone. 1413 01:20:16,178 --> 01:20:18,351 (HEAVY BREATHING) 1414 01:20:36,532 --> 01:20:39,342 SNOWDEN: So, my new job was counter-spying 1415 01:20:39,435 --> 01:20:44,282 on the Chinese at the NSA Regional Cryptological Center on Oahu. 1416 01:20:46,308 --> 01:20:48,618 You mind placing your bag down there, sir? 1417 01:20:50,446 --> 01:20:53,450 No personal laptops, no USB sticks, no cell phones, 1418 01:20:53,515 --> 01:20:54,994 no electronic devices of any kind? 1419 01:20:55,050 --> 01:20:56,120 No, sir. 1420 01:20:58,687 --> 01:21:00,462 (WOMAN SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY ON PA) 1421 01:21:04,860 --> 01:21:05,895 GUARD: Thank you. 1422 01:21:10,132 --> 01:21:11,236 Thank you. 1423 01:21:15,637 --> 01:21:18,550 Snow White! Is that you? 1424 01:21:20,042 --> 01:21:21,020 Gabriel? 1425 01:21:21,143 --> 01:21:23,487 Dude, what the hell are you doing here? (CHUCKLES) Wow! 1426 01:21:23,545 --> 01:21:24,580 That's amazing. 1427 01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:25,715 Oh, man. 1428 01:21:25,981 --> 01:21:27,153 What, do you work here? 1429 01:21:27,216 --> 01:21:31,665 Yeah, yeah. Uh, three years, two months, and five days. 1430 01:21:32,988 --> 01:21:34,899 But who's counting, right'? Yeah. 1431 01:21:34,990 --> 01:21:38,233 It's like who knew a secret underground World War ll-era base 1432 01:21:38,327 --> 01:21:40,398 would become munchie heaven for a thousand geeks, right? 1433 01:21:40,496 --> 01:21:41,998 So there's good pizza? Good pizza, yeah. 1434 01:21:42,064 --> 01:21:43,065 That's important 1435 01:21:43,165 --> 01:21:44,735 Elevatofls slow as shit, though. 1436 01:21:44,833 --> 01:21:45,777 Jesus. 1437 01:21:45,868 --> 01:21:47,074 GABRIEL: It's something else, huh? 1438 01:21:47,669 --> 01:21:52,277 Yeah. So, uh, what deck are you working on? 1439 01:21:52,374 --> 01:21:55,014 You NTOC or ROC? 1440 01:21:57,846 --> 01:22:00,918 Between you and me? NTOC. (ELEVATOR BELL DINGS) 1441 01:22:01,016 --> 01:22:02,518 Cool. You get to hack the hackers. 1442 01:22:02,584 --> 01:22:03,858 You're coming up in the world. 1443 01:22:08,190 --> 01:22:09,965 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 1444 01:22:13,729 --> 01:22:16,232 (KNOCKS ON DOOR) Fresh brains for you, Trevor. 1445 01:22:16,298 --> 01:22:18,539 Trevor James, Interactive Ops Division Chief. 1446 01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:19,601 Ed Snowden. 1447 01:22:19,701 --> 01:22:22,204 I've been briefed. Next door is NTOC. 1448 01:22:23,105 --> 01:22:25,210 Defense. That's where you'll be working. 1449 01:22:26,141 --> 01:22:28,246 Over here we have ROC, our offense' 1450 01:22:29,044 --> 01:22:32,457 Now I move between the two. We run a tight ship here, Snowden. 1451 01:22:32,548 --> 01:22:33,891 Yes, sir. 1452 01:22:33,949 --> 01:22:35,223 You'll be working with Haynes. 1453 01:22:35,284 --> 01:22:36,729 Hey. Patrick Haynes. 1454 01:22:36,785 --> 01:22:38,128 Hey. Nice to meet you. Good to have you. 1455 01:22:38,220 --> 01:22:39,460 You watch out for him. 1456 01:22:39,555 --> 01:22:41,296 That's the smartest guy in the building right here. 1457 01:22:41,390 --> 01:22:42,391 (CHUCKLES) Come on. 1458 01:22:42,458 --> 01:22:43,960 Bro, how many languages you speak, again? 1459 01:22:44,059 --> 01:22:47,063 I mean, seven in code, six spoken, two signs. 1460 01:22:47,129 --> 01:22:48,130 That's cool. 1461 01:22:53,402 --> 01:22:56,246 Great. Another language I can't understand. 1462 01:22:56,305 --> 01:22:57,682 Uh, I'll check you later, Ed. 1463 01:22:57,773 --> 01:22:58,843 Okay. See you. 1464 01:23:03,245 --> 01:23:04,622 TREVOR: Wait for it. 1465 01:23:06,081 --> 01:23:08,254 Any moment. 1466 01:23:11,086 --> 01:23:12,030 TECHNICIAN: We got 'em. 1467 01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:13,428 TREVOR: Lights over Waziristan, gentlemen. 1468 01:23:14,022 --> 01:23:15,126 Way to go. 1469 01:23:15,190 --> 01:23:17,932 So what exactly do we contribute to this? 1470 01:23:18,627 --> 01:23:19,628 The underside of that Reaper drone 1471 01:23:19,695 --> 01:23:21,504 is fixed with a big-ass antenna, 1472 01:23:21,597 --> 01:23:24,339 snarfing the hardware ID of anything that broadcasts. 1473 01:23:24,433 --> 01:23:26,674 We do the geolocator. 1474 01:23:26,768 --> 01:23:27,872 My friend Tasha here at the Air Force 1475 01:23:27,970 --> 01:23:29,608 rains hellfire. There she is now. 1476 01:23:29,938 --> 01:23:31,849 FEMALE DRONE PILOT: Hey, Trev. You Iikfn' the show? 1477 01:23:32,374 --> 01:23:34,479 You know it. We track 'em, you whack 'em. 1478 01:23:34,643 --> 01:23:36,384 SNOWDEN: And who did we just track? 1479 01:23:37,179 --> 01:23:38,783 Not who, what. 1480 01:23:38,847 --> 01:23:42,021 We're targeting bad guys' cell phones. Sometimes the SIM card. 1481 01:23:42,117 --> 01:23:44,529 Okay, and how do we know the bad guy 1482 01:23:44,620 --> 01:23:46,190 is in possession of the bad cell phone 1483 01:23:46,288 --> 01:23:47,460 when we strike? 1484 01:23:47,523 --> 01:23:48,558 Well, we don't... 1485 01:23:48,690 --> 01:23:51,671 Course we do. JSOC and CIA have their people in the field. 1486 01:23:52,995 --> 01:23:54,497 What's the program name? 1487 01:23:55,364 --> 01:23:56,843 Epic Shelter. 1488 01:23:56,899 --> 01:24:00,073 It was originally some backup program for, um... 1489 01:24:01,403 --> 01:24:02,575 Catastrophic site failure. 1490 01:24:02,671 --> 01:24:04,651 Yeah. How did you know that? 1491 01:24:06,008 --> 01:24:07,043 I built it. 1492 01:24:07,309 --> 01:24:08,481 You? Yeah. 1493 01:24:09,478 --> 01:24:11,321 You know I've actually... I've been thinking about, uh, 1494 01:24:11,380 --> 01:24:13,553 another use for Epic Shelter. 1495 01:24:13,649 --> 01:24:14,684 Whafd you have in mind? 1496 01:24:15,551 --> 01:24:17,588 Well, I was chatting with Jim Lowell 1497 01:24:17,686 --> 01:24:18,687 about how there's so many programs... 1498 01:24:18,754 --> 01:24:19,824 Deputy Director Lowell? 1499 01:24:19,888 --> 01:24:22,061 Yeah. Yeah. 1500 01:24:22,157 --> 01:24:24,364 And we were saying there's so many programs nowadays, 1501 01:24:24,426 --> 01:24:26,497 it's kind of impossible to keep track of them anymore, right? 1502 01:24:26,562 --> 01:24:29,236 So why not create a centralized database. 1503 01:24:29,665 --> 01:24:31,076 Ah. Like an index. 1504 01:24:31,166 --> 01:24:33,510 Yeah, exactly. Something that updates in real time, 1505 01:24:33,569 --> 01:24:37,278 you know, we've already got Epic Shelter collecting our finished intel. 1506 01:24:37,372 --> 01:24:40,842 We just need a web portal to catalogue it, make it searchable. 1507 01:24:41,944 --> 01:24:43,389 Let me think about it. 1508 01:24:43,445 --> 01:24:45,447 In any case, I'd have to run it past Fort Meade. 1509 01:24:45,547 --> 01:24:46,548 SNOWDEN: Of course. 1510 01:24:46,615 --> 01:24:47,787 Did you have a name? 1511 01:24:48,617 --> 01:24:51,029 Yeah, if it's not taken, I'd call it Heartbeat. 1512 01:24:53,455 --> 01:24:56,231 Heartbeat. FEMALE DRONE PILOT: Six, five, four, 1513 01:24:56,291 --> 01:24:59,704 three, two, one... 1514 01:24:59,761 --> 01:25:01,104 Engage target. 1515 01:25:16,144 --> 01:25:17,623 LINDSAY: You okay down there? 1516 01:25:18,780 --> 01:25:19,815 Yep. 1517 01:25:20,616 --> 01:25:23,392 See, this is why I keep saying we need to hike more. 1518 01:25:24,386 --> 01:25:25,490 SNOWDEN: You're right. 1519 01:25:25,887 --> 01:25:27,059 Hey, can you look at me? 1520 01:25:27,122 --> 01:25:28,123 Oh! 1521 01:25:28,890 --> 01:25:31,393 LINDSAY: Come on. It's been years. (CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING) 1522 01:25:31,460 --> 01:25:34,407 By social media standards, you don't even exist anymore. 1523 01:25:34,896 --> 01:25:36,068 Just one. 1524 01:25:37,833 --> 01:25:40,074 Okay, smile. Show me your teeth! (CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING) 1525 01:25:41,837 --> 01:25:44,477 My elusive E, finally captured. 1526 01:25:44,573 --> 01:25:46,450 So now I'm a viable boyfriend? 1527 01:25:46,508 --> 01:25:47,748 Yes. (LAUGHS) 1528 01:25:50,312 --> 01:25:53,020 Such a shame, you used to be such a cute little model. 1529 01:25:53,115 --> 01:25:54,150 Little? Yeah. 1530 01:25:54,249 --> 01:25:56,354 Was I little? Wait! (LAUGHING) 1531 01:25:58,587 --> 01:25:59,930 Stop! 1532 01:26:01,757 --> 01:26:03,794 Oh, my God. What? 1533 01:26:03,925 --> 01:26:05,836 Think you got some sun! (CHUCKLES) 1534 01:26:05,927 --> 01:26:07,998 I'm serious, it looks good! 1535 01:26:08,096 --> 01:26:09,473 Well, that's impossible. 1536 01:26:10,599 --> 01:26:14,206 Hey, um, I've been meaning to ask you, by the way. 1537 01:26:14,302 --> 01:26:15,610 Did you switch pharmacies? 1538 01:26:16,772 --> 01:26:20,049 'Cause I tried to pick up your prescription, 1539 01:26:21,610 --> 01:26:23,453 and I couldn't 1540 01:26:23,512 --> 01:26:24,786 Why did you do that? 1541 01:26:27,215 --> 01:26:30,719 Uh, because I was there and thought it would be helpful. 1542 01:26:43,065 --> 01:26:45,011 I stopped taking the Tegretol. 1543 01:26:46,802 --> 01:26:49,476 What? When? 1544 01:26:49,538 --> 01:26:51,211 A couple months ago. 1545 01:26:51,306 --> 01:26:52,376 And you'rejust now telling me? 1546 01:26:52,474 --> 01:26:54,215 I wanted to tell you. 1547 01:26:54,309 --> 01:26:57,552 I did, I just... I can't take that stuff, it makes me groggy, 1548 01:26:57,646 --> 01:27:00,149 and I need to be sharp for work. 1549 01:27:00,215 --> 01:27:01,853 I need to be on the ball all the time. 1550 01:27:01,917 --> 01:27:03,055 What is it about this fucking job 1551 01:27:03,151 --> 01:27:05,597 that makes it more important than your life? 1552 01:27:05,687 --> 01:27:06,825 (SIGHS) 1553 01:27:07,155 --> 01:27:08,327 I don't understand. 1554 01:27:08,390 --> 01:27:09,733 Our government... 1555 01:27:12,394 --> 01:27:13,839 Our government, what? 1556 01:27:14,663 --> 01:27:18,110 Our government is hemorrhaging billions of dollars 1557 01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,737 every year to Chinese hackers. 1558 01:27:20,836 --> 01:27:23,339 And I've been hired to shut them down. 1559 01:27:25,006 --> 01:27:28,783 A lot of people are depending on me. 1560 01:27:30,011 --> 01:27:31,854 More so than anyone else? 1561 01:27:33,515 --> 01:27:34,516 Yes. 1562 01:27:37,452 --> 01:27:41,195 No, this is bullshit. 1563 01:27:44,593 --> 01:27:48,735 We didn't come to Hawaii for you to heal, did we? 1564 01:27:49,931 --> 01:27:52,207 There was never gonna be a less stressful job out here. 1565 01:27:52,267 --> 01:27:55,111 Look, I feel like I'm made to do this. 1566 01:27:55,203 --> 01:28:00,152 And if I don't do it, then I don't know anybody else that can. 1567 01:28:02,711 --> 01:28:07,558 It's like I'm on a trajectory that I can't turn back from. 1568 01:28:10,652 --> 01:28:12,154 LINDSAY: You can always turn back. 1569 01:28:16,658 --> 01:28:17,898 SENATORWYDEN: What I wanted to see 1570 01:28:17,959 --> 01:28:21,406 is if you could give me a yes or no answer to the question, 1571 01:28:21,463 --> 01:28:25,912 "Does the NSA collect any type of data at all 1572 01:28:25,967 --> 01:28:29,414 "on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?" 1573 01:28:30,405 --> 01:28:31,577 DIRECTOR CLAPPERI No, sir. 1574 01:28:32,174 --> 01:28:33,653 SENATOR WYDEN: It does not? 1575 01:28:35,310 --> 01:28:36,812 Not wittingly. 1576 01:28:36,912 --> 01:28:39,483 There are cases where they could inadvertently, 1577 01:28:39,581 --> 01:28:41,458 perhaps, uh, collect, 1578 01:28:41,516 --> 01:28:43,120 but not wittingly. 1579 01:28:43,185 --> 01:28:44,425 Oh, really? 1580 01:28:44,486 --> 01:28:46,466 SENATOR WYDEN: Thank you, and I?! have additional questions 1581 01:28:46,521 --> 01:28:48,432 to give you in writing on that point. 1582 01:28:48,490 --> 01:28:49,628 (KEYBOARD CLACKING) 1583 01:28:49,691 --> 01:28:51,102 SNOWDEN: Okay, so, uh, 1584 01:28:51,159 --> 01:28:53,435 what I wanted to show you guys is, um, 1585 01:28:53,495 --> 01:28:56,999 the slide I ran across while building this indexing program. 1586 01:28:57,432 --> 01:28:58,467 And what is this? 1587 01:28:58,767 --> 01:29:00,337 Okay. So, this is data collection 1588 01:29:00,435 --> 01:29:02,346 for the month of March 1589 01:29:02,437 --> 01:29:04,678 worldwide, emails and Skype calls. 1590 01:29:04,773 --> 01:29:11,122 So France, 70 million- Germany, 500 million. Brazil, two billion. 1591 01:29:11,813 --> 01:29:13,850 Inside the U.S., 1592 01:29:13,949 --> 01:29:17,158 3.1 billion emails and calls. 1593 01:29:17,219 --> 01:29:19,631 That's not including any of the telecom company data. 1594 01:29:19,688 --> 01:29:21,531 PATRICK: Okay, so what's the collection in Russia? 1595 01:29:22,123 --> 01:29:25,661 SNOWDEN: Russia is 1.5 billion. 1596 01:29:25,727 --> 01:29:27,365 Wait, so we're collecting twice as much 1597 01:29:27,462 --> 01:29:29,032 in the U.S. as we are in Russia? 1598 01:29:29,130 --> 01:29:30,200 Yeah, I figured it was a lot, but... 1599 01:29:30,298 --> 01:29:32,539 GABRIEL: This shit is out of hand, man. 1600 01:29:32,634 --> 01:29:34,671 Wait. Have you shown this to anyone else? 1601 01:29:34,803 --> 01:29:36,544 No, you guys are the first. 1602 01:29:36,638 --> 01:29:38,845 Yeah, yeah, you know, I'd be careful about that. 1603 01:29:38,907 --> 01:29:40,887 You know, it could seem like you're rocking the boat. 1604 01:29:40,976 --> 01:29:41,977 SNOWDEN: Yeah, you're right. 1605 01:29:42,043 --> 01:29:44,250 No, I just, uh, I needed to know 1606 01:29:44,346 --> 01:29:46,656 if I was the only one that thought this was crazy. 1607 01:29:47,315 --> 01:29:48,726 TREVOR: What the fuck's going on? 1608 01:29:48,817 --> 01:29:49,852 CATFISH: Hey, Trev. 1609 01:29:49,918 --> 01:29:50,988 What are you doing in here? 1610 01:29:51,052 --> 01:29:52,258 It's nothing. I was just showing them 1611 01:29:52,354 --> 01:29:54,834 this one slide, I needed some input. 1612 01:29:54,890 --> 01:29:56,028 Why the heat map? 1613 01:29:56,091 --> 01:29:57,729 It's my bad, Trev. 1614 01:29:57,826 --> 01:29:59,828 I made a bet with Ed about which country 1615 01:29:59,895 --> 01:30:02,501 we were collecting the most signals from. 1616 01:30:02,564 --> 01:30:04,510 He said Iran, I said Pakistan. 1617 01:30:05,667 --> 01:30:07,010 Who won? 1618 01:30:07,669 --> 01:30:08,773 Ed. 1619 01:30:08,870 --> 01:30:09,871 (SOFT CHUCKLE) 1620 01:30:11,406 --> 01:30:13,682 GABRIEL: Yeah, I need to head out. I'll see you guys. 1621 01:30:13,742 --> 01:30:14,914 You're going down next time, man. 1622 01:30:15,010 --> 01:30:16,114 Yeah, okay. 1623 01:30:17,279 --> 01:30:18,917 No more bets. 1624 01:30:19,014 --> 01:30:21,016 And I don't want anyone unauthorized in here again. 1625 01:30:21,082 --> 01:30:22,527 Especially not with Heartbeat. 1626 01:30:22,584 --> 01:30:24,359 You're right. Won't happen again. 1627 01:30:29,357 --> 01:30:30,358 (SIGHS) 1628 01:30:39,034 --> 01:30:40,377 ALL: Happy birthday! 1629 01:30:40,635 --> 01:30:42,239 (APPLAUSE AND CHATTER) 1630 01:30:46,875 --> 01:30:48,582 CATFISH: ...in Vegas, looking at Afghanistan. 1631 01:30:48,643 --> 01:30:50,782 So we're running late hours. 1632 01:30:50,879 --> 01:30:53,655 So this blurry object comes wandering into the strike zone. 1633 01:30:54,382 --> 01:30:56,259 We all knew that it was a kid. 1634 01:30:56,551 --> 01:30:57,552 Poof. 1635 01:30:57,919 --> 01:30:58,920 He's gone. 1636 01:31:00,088 --> 01:31:02,295 We called in for clarification, and the report came back 1637 01:31:02,390 --> 01:31:04,097 that it was a dog. 1638 01:31:04,793 --> 01:31:06,272 Okay. Fine. 1639 01:31:06,895 --> 01:31:11,002 Shift's long, day and night. I don't remember. 1640 01:31:11,099 --> 01:31:14,012 But same village, two, three days later. 1641 01:31:14,102 --> 01:31:15,342 We see the funeral party. 1642 01:31:15,437 --> 01:31:17,644 We knew it was a kid that they were burying. 1643 01:31:17,739 --> 01:31:19,946 Moms and dads wailing. 1644 01:31:20,008 --> 01:31:22,750 And then the order comes down. Pretty clear. Hit 'em. 1645 01:31:23,411 --> 01:31:24,412 Poof. 1646 01:31:26,681 --> 01:31:29,491 And they are gone in a cloud of dust. 1647 01:31:33,621 --> 01:31:36,158 I mean, all of them. (CHUCKLING) The whole fuckin' family. 1648 01:31:36,858 --> 01:31:38,804 But the crazy thing is, 1649 01:31:38,860 --> 01:31:40,703 you come home after work, 1650 01:31:40,795 --> 01:31:44,937 kiss your wife, your kids, back to work the next day. 1651 01:31:45,033 --> 01:31:50,176 Pretty soon, you know, it just all becomes routine. 1652 01:31:51,973 --> 01:31:52,974 (SIGHS) 1653 01:31:53,174 --> 01:31:54,517 Fuck that. 1654 01:31:54,609 --> 01:31:58,386 You make it sound criminal, man. It's war. It's a job. 1655 01:31:58,480 --> 01:32:02,121 Oh, I don't know, man. You saying jobs can't be criminal? 1656 01:32:02,717 --> 01:32:04,287 Not if you're working for the government. 1657 01:32:05,053 --> 01:32:07,795 SNOWDEN: You ever hear about the Nuremberg trials, Trev? 1658 01:32:08,723 --> 01:32:10,361 They weren't that long ago. 1659 01:32:10,458 --> 01:32:13,530 Yeah. And we hung the Nazi big shots, right? 1660 01:32:14,162 --> 01:32:16,540 Yeah, well, the big shots were the first trial, 1661 01:32:16,631 --> 01:32:20,545 but then the next trial were just the judges, 1662 01:32:20,635 --> 01:32:23,582 and lawyers, and policemen, and guards, 1663 01:32:23,671 --> 01:32:28,313 and ordinary people just doing theirjobs, following orders. 1664 01:32:29,644 --> 01:32:31,590 That's where we got the Nuremberg principles, 1665 01:32:31,679 --> 01:32:35,821 which then the UN made into international law, 1666 01:32:35,884 --> 01:32:40,355 just in case ordinaryjobs become criminal again. 1667 01:32:43,658 --> 01:32:44,932 Just sayin'. 1668 01:32:45,026 --> 01:32:46,437 (DRONE WHIRRING) 1669 01:32:52,167 --> 01:32:53,339 (THUD) (WOMAN SCREAMS) 1670 01:32:53,668 --> 01:32:55,170 (CLAMORING) 1671 01:32:56,771 --> 01:32:58,079 MAN: That's gotta wake you up. You okay? 1672 01:32:58,173 --> 01:32:59,618 See, I told you not to grab my hand. 1673 01:32:59,841 --> 01:33:01,548 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 1674 01:33:12,420 --> 01:33:13,899 ...fucking touch me anymore. 1675 01:33:30,605 --> 01:33:32,710 MAN: Dude! Dude, are you okay? WOMAN: Oh, my God. 1676 01:33:32,774 --> 01:33:34,219 LINDSAY: Ed, are you okay? 1677 01:33:34,275 --> 01:33:36,084 Are you okay, man? I think he's having a... 1678 01:33:36,211 --> 01:33:37,884 LINDSAY: Get away, don't touch him. 1679 01:33:37,946 --> 01:33:39,619 MAN: Don't touch him, don't touch him. LINDSAY: Don't... 1680 01:34:02,437 --> 01:34:03,575 (SIGHS) 1681 01:34:08,476 --> 01:34:12,583 Hey, Ed. How are you? How's your health? 1682 01:34:13,148 --> 01:34:15,128 Hey, Corbin. Uh... 1683 01:34:17,452 --> 01:34:19,955 It's fine. Thanks for asking. 1684 01:34:20,188 --> 01:34:22,930 Must be nerve-wracking living with that condition. 1685 01:34:24,092 --> 01:34:27,266 You wouldn't know it to look at your numbers. 1686 01:34:27,328 --> 01:34:30,434 Two hundred Chinese IPs down in your first four months. 1687 01:34:32,700 --> 01:34:35,544 Those are, uh, internal numbers. 1688 01:34:35,637 --> 01:34:39,278 Your colleague, Trevor, comes out of the CIA like you. 1689 01:34:39,340 --> 01:34:43,152 He's been, uh, keeping me informed on your progress. 1690 01:34:44,279 --> 01:34:48,785 KLHUCKLES} R's outstanding work. Heartbeat as wail. 1691 01:34:49,651 --> 01:34:52,564 Thank you. Thanks. That means a lot. 1692 01:34:52,654 --> 01:34:55,794 Lowell is very pleased. He, uh, sends his regards. 1693 01:34:56,391 --> 01:34:57,665 That's great to hear. 1694 01:34:58,693 --> 01:34:59,967 He, um... 1695 01:35:03,831 --> 01:35:06,710 He doesn't know about your heat map conversations, 1696 01:35:06,801 --> 01:35:09,975 or some of the ideas you've expressed to your colleagues. 1697 01:35:10,805 --> 01:35:12,148 And he's not going to. 1698 01:35:13,208 --> 01:35:14,653 Yeah. Uh... 1699 01:35:15,543 --> 01:35:19,491 You know, Heartbeat is proving a tricky project. 1700 01:35:19,547 --> 01:35:21,527 Collating from multiple agencies, 1701 01:35:21,583 --> 01:35:24,086 and knowing where to pull from. 1702 01:35:24,185 --> 01:35:27,359 It has helped to talk it over with colleagues. 1703 01:35:28,890 --> 01:35:30,233 Ibelieve in you, Ed. 1704 01:35:30,658 --> 01:35:35,164 Which is why nothing happened to you after the derog h: Geneva. 1705 01:35:36,164 --> 01:35:38,838 And I'm very grateful you've looked out for me. 1706 01:35:38,900 --> 01:35:40,004 Or after you, uh, 1707 01:35:42,270 --> 01:35:45,080 omitted the truth in your last polygraph. 1708 01:35:47,508 --> 01:35:50,045 What was it you were withholding exactly? 1709 01:35:50,878 --> 01:35:51,913 Hmm? 1710 01:35:57,051 --> 01:35:58,428 You remember that day in class, 1711 01:35:58,519 --> 01:36:01,295 you were talking to us about the FISA Court? 1712 01:36:02,690 --> 01:36:06,365 You said that they approved Bush's wiretapping programs. 1713 01:36:07,962 --> 01:36:11,205 Sometimes we're restricted from tailing the whole truth. 1714 01:36:13,067 --> 01:36:15,274 Doesn't give us permission to lie. 1715 01:36:15,536 --> 01:36:17,447 Come on, Corbin, 1716 01:36:17,538 --> 01:36:20,576 the Director of National Intelligence just lied to Congress! 1717 01:36:24,145 --> 01:36:25,215 Sorry. 1718 01:36:30,218 --> 01:36:31,720 Look a! me. 1719 01:36:37,392 --> 01:36:41,306 Did you access an unauthorized program 1720 01:36:41,396 --> 01:36:43,899 that I did not know about? 1721 01:36:49,804 --> 01:36:51,181 Yes. 1722 01:36:52,674 --> 01:36:54,017 Itwas, uh... 1723 01:36:55,009 --> 01:36:56,818 ltwas at Geneva. It was Lindsay. 1724 01:36:56,911 --> 01:36:58,151 I was jealous. 1725 01:36:59,681 --> 01:37:02,252 And I'm sorry. I never did it again. 1726 01:37:16,264 --> 01:37:17,265 Listen, Ed. 1727 01:37:21,102 --> 01:37:24,675 I know ifs been up and down with you and Lindsay since Geneva. 1728 01:37:25,506 --> 01:37:29,682 It's tough to keep any relationship going. Few of us do. 1729 01:37:31,946 --> 01:37:35,155 So, if M! give you any peace of mind, I can assure you, 1730 01:37:35,216 --> 01:37:39,892 she's not sleeping with that photographer friend of hers. 1731 01:37:40,288 --> 01:37:42,063 I! that's what you're thinking;. 1732 01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:47,701 I have to go to a Five Eyes conference 1733 01:37:47,795 --> 01:37:49,502 in Sydney in a couple of weeks. 1734 01:37:49,564 --> 01:37:51,805 H! stop of! in Hawaii on the way back. 1735 01:37:53,568 --> 01:37:54,740 Okay? 1736 01:37:56,471 --> 01:37:59,213 Okay. Thank you. 1737 01:38:01,642 --> 01:38:02,985 I'll see you soon. 1738 01:38:16,891 --> 01:38:17,892 (CELL PHONE RINGING) 1739 01:38:19,093 --> 01:38:20,401 Hey, Dad. 1740 01:38:22,230 --> 01:38:25,074 Good. Did you get the e-mail that I sent you with the photos? 1741 01:38:26,768 --> 01:38:27,769 Uh-huh. 1742 01:38:29,404 --> 01:38:31,350 Well, I was hoping that you could send me some... 1743 01:38:34,008 --> 01:38:35,419 (KEYBOARD CLACKING) 1744 01:38:40,948 --> 01:38:42,018 What are you doing? 1745 01:39:04,238 --> 01:39:05,239 Sit down. 1746 01:39:12,713 --> 01:39:14,386 Your e-mail is being monitored. 1747 01:39:16,150 --> 01:39:17,220 So? 1748 01:39:17,919 --> 01:39:18,954 No, it's different now. 1749 01:39:19,053 --> 01:39:21,556 It's not passive collection, it's full-take surveillance. 1750 01:39:21,622 --> 01:39:25,468 It's all of your e-mails, calls, texts, social media, everything. 1751 01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:30,009 It's also possible that the house is bugged. 1752 01:39:30,231 --> 01:39:31,437 I'm not sure. 1753 01:39:32,133 --> 01:39:33,271 By who? 1754 01:39:34,502 --> 01:39:37,415 By a senior officer at the CIA. 1755 01:39:38,406 --> 01:39:41,012 You in trouble? Is it the Chinese thing? 1756 01:39:42,810 --> 01:39:46,451 Look, there's things that I wish I could tell you, 1757 01:39:46,514 --> 01:39:50,428 but I can't because you could get very hurt. 1758 01:39:50,985 --> 01:39:53,795 What's keeping you safe is that you don't know anything. 1759 01:40:00,595 --> 01:40:03,974 I'm sorry, I really am. ldidn't want any of this for you. 1760 01:40:05,933 --> 01:40:10,439 But I know you would think I was doing the right thing. 1761 01:40:15,109 --> 01:40:18,318 So just listen to me for a sec' okay? 1762 01:40:18,379 --> 01:40:21,485 When we g0 back in the house, everything has to appear normal. 1763 01:40:21,549 --> 01:40:23,688 We're gonna act like nothing has changed, 1764 01:40:23,784 --> 01:40:26,196 but if you do notice something that's weird, 1765 01:40:26,287 --> 01:40:28,130 you need to tell me right away. 1766 01:40:28,222 --> 01:40:31,635 And you're gonna use an encrypted e-mail that I'm setting up for you. 1767 01:40:31,692 --> 01:40:34,036 (EXHALES SHARPLY) Oh, my God, I don't think I can do this. 1768 01:40:34,128 --> 01:40:35,698 Yes, you can. I know you can. 1769 01:40:37,632 --> 01:40:39,168 Do I even have a choice? 1770 01:40:40,201 --> 01:40:41,874 I'm asking you to trust me. 1771 01:40:44,672 --> 01:40:46,174 (BIRDS CHIRPING) 1772 01:40:50,478 --> 01:40:51,684 And, Linds' I think it'd be best 1773 01:40:51,746 --> 01:40:54,352 if you went back to Maryland for a while. 1774 01:40:55,149 --> 01:40:58,756 Tell your parents that I'm away on a business trip 1775 01:40:58,853 --> 01:41:01,265 and that you're homesick. 1776 01:41:01,489 --> 01:41:03,093 Are you going away? 1777 01:41:03,224 --> 01:41:05,727 Yes. Butjust for a little while. 1778 01:41:13,167 --> 01:41:14,237 No. 1779 01:41:15,503 --> 01:41:16,504 No, I can't go. 1780 01:41:16,571 --> 01:41:18,016 Please. Just until I get back. 1781 01:41:18,072 --> 01:41:19,210 I can't go. 1782 01:41:21,509 --> 01:41:25,958 You just said that we have to appear like nothings changed. 1783 01:41:26,180 --> 01:41:29,627 If both of us left at the same time, wouldn't that seem suspicious? 1784 01:41:34,021 --> 01:41:35,227 (SNIFFLES) 1785 01:41:40,194 --> 01:41:41,639 I will do this for you. 1786 01:41:46,734 --> 01:41:48,645 (SOBBING) But it is the last time. 1787 01:41:57,211 --> 01:41:58,918 (KEYBOARD CLACKING) 1788 01:42:14,996 --> 01:42:16,669 (SIREN WAILING IN DISTANCE) 1789 01:42:21,068 --> 01:42:22,570 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 1790 01:42:23,738 --> 01:42:26,150 Yo! Yo, you hear about Trevor, bro? 1791 01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:27,310 No, what? 1792 01:42:27,408 --> 01:42:29,820 You remember that op to own the Internet in Syria? 1793 01:42:29,910 --> 01:42:31,082 Yeah. Yeah. 1794 01:42:31,145 --> 01:42:33,648 Trevor and his TAO team crashed the core router. 1795 01:42:35,316 --> 01:42:36,818 Bro, the whole country's gone dark. 1796 01:42:36,917 --> 01:42:38,658 EN: Jesus Christ. 1797 01:42:38,753 --> 01:42:39,788 TREVOR: Figure it out! 1798 01:42:39,854 --> 01:42:40,924 GABRIEL: Poor bastards. 1799 01:42:43,290 --> 01:42:45,099 Okay, I'm gonna, uh... I gotta get to work. 1800 01:42:45,159 --> 01:42:46,194 Yeah. Yeah, me too. 1801 01:42:47,261 --> 01:42:48,934 So, Ed, how's, uh... 1802 01:42:49,664 --> 01:42:51,166 How's Heartbeat coming? 1803 01:42:51,866 --> 01:42:53,038 It's close. 1804 01:42:54,769 --> 01:42:55,941 It's very close. 1805 01:42:56,370 --> 01:42:57,781 TREVOR: Pull it up on this monitor. 1806 01:42:57,838 --> 01:42:58,976 MAN: I'm still trying to access... 1807 01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:00,451 Don't tell me you're involved in this, too? 1808 01:43:00,508 --> 01:43:04,320 Well, Trevor fucking roped me into going through their zero-day exploit codes. 1809 01:43:04,378 --> 01:43:06,654 This thing is a fucking mess, man. 1810 01:43:09,383 --> 01:43:11,454 Why did I agree to this? Good luck. 1811 01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:13,892 PATRICK: This is Patrick... 1812 01:43:14,689 --> 01:43:16,362 What you're gonna do is you're gonna... 1813 01:43:21,662 --> 01:43:24,575 I told him, l... Help them. 1814 01:43:24,865 --> 01:43:26,003 (KEYBOARD CLACKING) 1815 01:43:34,542 --> 01:43:35,646 (COMPUTER CHIMES) 1816 01:44:38,205 --> 01:44:39,582 (INDISTINCT CONVERSATION) 1817 01:44:51,051 --> 01:44:52,462 TREVOR: Okay. Get back to work, guys. 1818 01:44:52,553 --> 01:44:53,554 No, Patrick, show me. 1819 01:45:38,532 --> 01:45:39,943 TREVOR: Talk about getting hung out to dry. 1820 01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:41,707 PATRICK: Yeah. Are we set? 1821 01:45:42,102 --> 01:45:43,103 (KEYBOARD CLACKING) 1822 01:45:43,370 --> 01:45:44,781 Trouble with the Navy? 1823 01:45:45,272 --> 01:45:47,513 TREVOR: One of those idiots ripped some bullshit piece of Israeli code 1824 01:45:47,608 --> 01:45:49,713 and jammed it down our payload. Can you fucking believe that? 1825 01:45:50,010 --> 01:45:51,114 Script kiddies. 1826 01:45:51,178 --> 01:45:52,555 TREVOR: I know, I know. I should have listened to you. 1827 01:45:52,646 --> 01:45:54,023 God damn it. Is this it? 1828 01:45:54,114 --> 01:45:55,354 PATRICK: Here. Yeah, this is it. 1829 01:45:55,449 --> 01:45:58,020 TREVOR: I'm gonna make the goddamn Israelis take the fall for this. 1830 01:45:58,819 --> 01:45:59,991 Come on. 1831 01:46:03,023 --> 01:46:04,900 Got it? I'm not taking the fall for this. 1832 01:46:14,635 --> 01:46:15,670 Patrick. 1833 01:46:19,039 --> 01:46:20,814 MAN: Still working on it, Trev. Hold on. 1834 01:46:21,141 --> 01:46:22,142 MAN: Nothing. Still nothing. 1835 01:46:30,584 --> 01:46:31,654 (CHUCKLES) 1836 01:46:33,721 --> 01:46:34,722 Yeah, but... 1837 01:47:18,766 --> 01:47:20,746 You, uh... You headed home already? 1838 01:47:20,801 --> 01:47:24,078 Yeah. I'm not feeling so well. 1839 01:47:24,138 --> 01:47:26,140 Might not be in tomorrow either. 1840 01:47:26,941 --> 01:47:28,443 You know, Trevor's kind of busy, 1841 01:47:28,542 --> 01:47:29,953 maybe you could let him know for me? 1842 01:47:30,044 --> 01:47:32,115 Yeah. Yeah, man. It'd be my pleasure. 1843 01:47:33,814 --> 01:47:35,259 You know, if you're, uh... 1844 01:47:35,316 --> 01:47:37,762 If you're really not feeling well, dude, maybe you should, uh, 1845 01:47:38,385 --> 01:47:40,092 go back to the States and see your doctor. 1846 01:47:40,154 --> 01:47:43,328 I think that, you know, folks would understand that. 1847 01:47:46,093 --> 01:47:47,834 That sounds like a smart thing. 1848 01:47:47,928 --> 01:47:48,929 (ELEVATOR BELL DINGS) 1849 01:47:55,002 --> 01:47:56,413 Take care of yourself. 1850 01:47:57,071 --> 01:47:58,311 Yeah, you too, bro. 1851 01:48:10,584 --> 01:48:12,086 (CUBE CLICKING) 1852 01:48:15,489 --> 01:48:16,934 (INDISTINCT CONVERSATION) 1853 01:48:19,460 --> 01:48:20,495 nix: 1854 01:48:21,829 --> 01:48:23,467 You ever play with one of these? 1855 01:48:24,965 --> 01:48:26,171 Yeah, when I was a kid. 1856 01:48:26,266 --> 01:48:28,610 Yeah. You should try it. It's hard. 1857 01:48:34,008 --> 01:48:35,009 (SCANNER BEEPS) 1858 01:48:50,124 --> 01:48:51,467 I can't figure this out. 1859 01:48:53,994 --> 01:48:55,132 (SCANNER BEEPS) 1860 01:48:57,831 --> 01:48:59,504 I don't know about this. 1861 01:48:59,700 --> 01:49:01,577 Yeah, you gotta start with the white cross, actually, 1862 01:49:01,702 --> 01:49:03,204 Ah. and then you do the corners. 1863 01:49:03,737 --> 01:49:04,738 Oh, man. 1864 01:49:04,838 --> 01:49:07,876 Look, I love these things. (CHUCKLES) 1865 01:49:07,975 --> 01:49:09,318 Hey, have a good weekend, man. 1866 01:49:09,376 --> 01:49:10,855 You too, buddy. All right. 1867 01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:07,806 LAURA; It's live. 1868 01:50:12,873 --> 01:50:14,944 There's a link to the FISA court order. 1869 01:50:21,048 --> 01:50:22,049 (CHUCKLES) 1870 01:50:22,549 --> 01:50:24,825 Well done, Janine. 1871 01:50:24,918 --> 01:50:26,454 I told you she wasn't a pushover. 1872 01:50:26,553 --> 01:50:28,726 Well, it feels so goddamn good to be wrong. 1873 01:50:37,264 --> 01:50:39,642 Breaking news tonight. Reports that through a secret court order, 1874 01:50:39,733 --> 01:50:42,270 the Obama administration is collecting the phone records 1875 01:50:42,336 --> 01:50:44,077 of millions of Verizon customers. 1876 01:50:44,138 --> 01:50:46,311 That's been reported by the Guardian newspaper in the U. K. 1877 01:50:46,406 --> 01:50:47,680 The specific court order shows 1878 01:50:47,774 --> 01:50:50,914 mat all me information is going to the National Security Agency. 1879 01:50:50,978 --> 01:50:52,321 (GLEEFUL EXCLAMATION) 1880 01:50:52,980 --> 01:50:55,017 How's that for mainstream media, Glenn? 1881 01:50:55,115 --> 01:50:57,823 They can't shut this down now. And we've got four more days of it. 1882 01:50:57,918 --> 01:50:59,989 They have no idea what they're in store for. 1883 01:51:00,087 --> 01:51:01,157 (CHUCKLES) That's fantastic! 1884 01:51:01,255 --> 01:51:04,031 MORGAN". mformer Speaker of the House is on the grifl tonighi and joins me now. 1885 01:51:04,124 --> 01:51:06,502 BUTZER: Another explosive article has just appeared, 1886 01:51:06,593 --> 01:51:08,004 this time in The Washington Post. 1887 01:51:08,095 --> 01:51:10,166 It's breaking news that it reveals 1888 01:51:10,264 --> 01:51:13,643 another broad and secret US. government surveiliance program. 1889 01:51:13,700 --> 01:51:17,341 The Washington Post and the Guardian in London reporting 1890 01:51:17,437 --> 01:51:18,939 that the NSA and the FBI 1891 01:51:19,006 --> 01:51:22,146 are tapping directly into the central servers 1892 01:51:22,209 --> 01:51:24,519 of nine leading Internet companies, 1893 01:51:24,611 --> 01:51:27,182 including Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, 1894 01:51:27,281 --> 01:51:30,194 AOL, Skype, YouTube, and Apple. 1895 01:51:30,284 --> 01:51:32,525 The Post says they're extracting audio, 1896 01:51:32,619 --> 01:51:35,463 video, photographs, e-mails, documents, 1897 01:51:35,522 --> 01:51:36,728 and connection logs 1898 01:51:36,823 --> 01:51:39,133 that enabie analysts to track a person's movements 1899 01:51:39,193 --> 01:51:41,469 and contacts over time. 1900 01:51:44,798 --> 01:51:48,336 OBAMA: In the abstract, you can compfain about Big Brother 1901 01:51:48,402 --> 01:51:52,544 and how this is a potential program run amok. 1902 01:51:52,639 --> 01:51:54,812 But when you actually look at the details, 1903 01:51:54,875 --> 01:51:56,980 then I think we've struck the right balance. 1904 01:51:57,044 --> 01:52:00,218 FEMALE REPORTER: U. S. President Barack Obama staunchfy defends 1905 01:52:00,314 --> 01:52:02,487 U.S. government programs, 1906 01:52:02,549 --> 01:52:05,928 insisting that the y were conducted with broad safeguards 1907 01:52:06,019 --> 01:52:08,260 and to protect against abuse. 1908 01:52:10,157 --> 01:52:12,398 GLENN: He reached the conclusion that what was happening 1909 01:52:12,492 --> 01:52:14,904 inside this really secretive agency 1910 01:52:14,995 --> 01:52:17,236 uh, was very threatening and menacing 1911 01:52:17,331 --> 01:52:19,743 to privacy rights, to internet freedom, 1912 01:52:19,833 --> 01:52:22,609 to basic political liberty, not only in the United States, 1913 01:52:22,703 --> 01:52:24,740 but ail around the world. 1914 01:52:24,838 --> 01:52:28,547 And he felt it was his duty as a human being to dfscfose it. 1915 01:52:39,353 --> 01:52:42,562 Uh, my name's Ed Snowden. I'm 29 years old. 1916 01:52:42,623 --> 01:52:44,102 Iwork for Booz Allen Hamilton 1917 01:52:44,191 --> 01:52:47,695 as an infrastructure analyst for NSA in Hawaii. 1918 01:52:49,029 --> 01:52:50,372 (SPEAKING MANDARIN) 1919 01:52:50,430 --> 01:52:52,376 (SPEAKING GERMAN) 1920 01:52:52,633 --> 01:52:54,203 (SPEAKING ITALIAN) 1921 01:52:54,301 --> 01:52:55,905 (SPEAKING JAPANESE) 1922 01:52:56,136 --> 01:52:57,774 (SPEAKING RUSSIAN) 1923 01:52:58,238 --> 01:53:00,479 The identity of the man who sent the Obama... 1924 01:53:00,574 --> 01:53:04,784 You can? come forward against the most powerful inteiligence agencies 1925 01:53:04,878 --> 01:53:07,449 in the world without expecting to have some risk. 1926 01:53:07,547 --> 01:53:09,618 They're just such powerful adversaries. 1927 01:53:09,716 --> 01:53:12,629 So no one can meaningfully oppose them. 1928 01:53:12,719 --> 01:53:13,789 He did i1. 1929 01:53:13,887 --> 01:53:16,731 You know, if they want to get you, they will gel' you, in time. 1930 01:53:16,790 --> 01:53:17,791 The kid did it! 1931 01:53:17,891 --> 01:53:19,768 SNQWDEN: And ifs just gonna get worse for the next generation, 1932 01:53:19,826 --> 01:53:21,237 as they extend the capabilities 1933 01:53:21,295 --> 01:53:24,799 of this sort of architecture of oppression. 1934 01:53:24,898 --> 01:53:29,244 And you realize that you might be wflffng to accept any risk, 1935 01:53:29,303 --> 01:53:33,080 as long as the public is abie to make their own decision 1936 01:53:33,140 --> 01:53:34,778 about how this is applied. 1937 01:53:35,008 --> 01:53:37,750 Because even if you haven't done anything wrong, 1938 01:53:37,811 --> 01:53:39,791 you're being watched and recorded. 1939 01:53:39,846 --> 01:53:40,984 (TELEPHONE RINGING) 1940 01:53:41,081 --> 01:53:44,255 Look, I had access to the entire intelligence community. 1941 01:53:44,318 --> 01:53:47,595 So, if I had wanted to harm the U.S., 1942 01:53:47,654 --> 01:53:51,864 you couid shutdown the entire surveillance system in an afternoon. 1943 01:53:51,958 --> 01:53:55,269 But that was never my intention. 1944 01:53:55,329 --> 01:53:58,435 And I think anybody that's making that argument, 1945 01:53:58,498 --> 01:54:02,844 they have to think, if they were in my position, 1946 01:54:02,936 --> 01:54:06,679 living in Hawaii, in paradise, and making a ton of money, 1947 01:54:06,773 --> 01:54:11,654 what would it take to make you leave everything behind? 1948 01:54:12,679 --> 01:54:17,355 The fear that § think I have most in regards 10 the outcome 1949 01:54:17,451 --> 01:54:20,193 for America of these disclosures 1950 01:54:20,287 --> 01:54:22,494 is that nothing will change. 1951 01:54:22,556 --> 01:54:26,368 In the coming months and the coming years, it?! just get worse. 1952 01:54:26,460 --> 01:54:28,997 And then eventually, at some point, 1953 01:54:29,062 --> 01:54:33,169 some new leader will be elected 1954 01:54:33,233 --> 01:54:37,147 who flips the switch, 1955 01:54:37,204 --> 01:54:44,053 and the people won't be able to do anything, by that point, to oppose it. 1956 01:54:44,911 --> 01:54:47,084 And m! be turnkey tyranny. 1957 01:54:49,049 --> 01:54:50,221 GLENN: How you holding up? 1958 01:54:51,151 --> 01:54:53,256 Yeah, I'll be fine. 1959 01:54:54,154 --> 01:54:55,656 It's you guys that have to start watching out 1960 01:54:55,722 --> 01:54:57,201 for yourselves now. 1961 01:54:58,358 --> 01:55:00,895 You know, if you have any reason to believe 1962 01:55:00,994 --> 01:55:05,568 that you're about to be raided or intercepted or breached in any way, 1963 01:55:05,665 --> 01:55:10,205 you format and destroy all the data immediately. 1964 01:55:10,270 --> 01:55:13,251 You have the encrypted backups. 1965 01:55:14,107 --> 01:55:15,450 And now, I... 1966 01:55:18,445 --> 01:55:21,392 I no longer have any access to these files myself. 1967 01:55:21,448 --> 01:55:23,086 You guys have them all. 1968 01:55:25,118 --> 01:55:26,222 Uh... 1969 01:55:26,686 --> 01:55:29,462 Keep the focus on the stories, that's all that matters. 1970 01:55:31,525 --> 01:55:33,198 Ifyou'll excuse me, ifs... 1971 01:55:35,929 --> 01:55:38,102 I think we should all get some rest. We can use it. 1972 01:55:38,365 --> 01:55:41,437 Yeah. I should probably lay down on a soft bed 1973 01:55:41,535 --> 01:55:43,572 while I still have one available, right? 1974 01:55:45,205 --> 01:55:47,082 You rest well. Thank you. 1975 01:55:49,276 --> 01:55:50,755 See you tomorrow. Good night. 1976 01:55:54,714 --> 01:55:55,715 (DOOR OPENS) 1977 01:55:56,983 --> 01:55:57,984 (DOOR CLOSES) 1978 01:56:18,738 --> 01:56:20,274 (WAVES CRASHING) 1979 01:56:21,141 --> 01:56:23,348 Can you at least tell me where you're going? 1980 01:56:24,778 --> 01:56:26,587 (BIRDS CHIRPING) 1981 01:56:37,123 --> 01:56:38,431 (CHUCKLES) 1982 01:56:48,268 --> 01:56:49,804 SNOWDEN: Listen, I know that I'm... 1983 01:57:03,617 --> 01:57:04,823 (ELEVATOR BELL DINGS) 1984 01:57:05,485 --> 01:57:07,123 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 1985 01:57:08,154 --> 01:57:09,792 Ewen, I'm on the second floor. 1986 01:57:11,291 --> 01:57:12,634 I don't see Tibbo. 1987 01:57:14,961 --> 01:57:17,237 No. No, no, wait. Okay. I think I see him. 1988 01:57:18,131 --> 01:57:19,235 Shit! 1989 01:57:19,866 --> 01:57:22,312 There's press swarming all over the hotel. 1990 01:57:22,369 --> 01:57:24,042 Yeah, I don't know. I'll figure it out. 1991 01:57:24,137 --> 01:57:26,174 I'll stop them with a press conference or something. 1992 01:57:26,306 --> 01:57:30,220 Hey, I'm Glenn. Look, we really appreciate this. 1993 01:57:30,310 --> 01:57:32,347 We understand you're one of the best lawyers in Hong Kong. 1994 01:57:32,412 --> 01:57:33,482 TIBBO: We'll do our best. 1995 01:57:33,547 --> 01:57:36,528 We're gonna take him to the UN first, then I prefer not to reveal. 1996 01:57:36,583 --> 01:57:37,561 GLENN: I understand. 1997 01:57:37,651 --> 01:57:39,927 Shit. They spotted me. You guys get going. 1998 01:57:40,987 --> 01:57:42,864 (REPORTERS CLAMORING) 1999 01:57:43,657 --> 01:57:45,227 Okay, I will take your questions in an orderly fashion. 2000 01:57:45,325 --> 01:57:46,395 Where is Snowden? Do you know where he is? 2001 01:57:46,493 --> 01:57:47,494 FEMALE REPORTER: Come on, please let us know! 2002 01:57:48,161 --> 01:57:49,231 Did you get them? 2003 01:57:49,329 --> 01:57:50,933 Yeah, this is the best I could do. 2004 01:57:51,031 --> 01:57:53,602 You're meeting Tibbo in five minutes, 2005 01:57:53,700 --> 01:57:56,203 on the skybridge opposite the large mall. 2006 01:57:59,940 --> 01:58:04,218 I've met a lot of astonishing people in my life, but you... 2007 01:58:04,277 --> 01:58:05,551 (BOTH CHUCKLE) 2008 01:58:06,413 --> 01:58:08,689 Okay, laddie. Off you go. 2009 01:58:09,616 --> 01:58:11,118 I won't let you down. 2010 01:58:13,286 --> 01:58:15,789 You'd make a shitty journalist without a camera. 2011 01:58:16,690 --> 01:58:18,431 Are you sure? Yeah. 2012 01:58:18,892 --> 01:58:21,805 Okay. That's a great idea. 2013 01:58:23,697 --> 01:58:24,698 Thanks. 2014 01:58:27,067 --> 01:58:29,138 Oh! You don't want to leave your luck behind. 2015 01:58:29,736 --> 01:58:30,737 SNOWDEN: Oh. 2016 01:58:30,971 --> 01:58:32,882 I think I'd like you to have that. 2017 01:58:35,041 --> 01:58:37,282 Thanks for everything. 2018 01:58:37,944 --> 01:58:39,048 Thank you. 2019 01:58:57,597 --> 01:58:59,167 (REPORTERS CLAMORING) 2020 01:59:02,736 --> 01:59:04,079 (WHISPERS) I have a van on the street. 2021 01:59:09,242 --> 01:59:12,416 FEMALE REPORTER: NSA Ieaker Edward Snowden has now been charged formafly 2022 01:59:12,479 --> 01:59:17,258 with espionage, theft, and conversion of go vemmeni property. 2023 01:59:17,350 --> 01:59:19,125 (CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING) U- S- offfcfafs have asked Hong Kong 2024 01:59:19,185 --> 01:59:20,755 10 detain the former contractor 2025 01:59:20,820 --> 01:59:22,663 on a provisional arrest warrant. 2026 01:59:22,756 --> 01:59:24,827 Snowden has been in Hong Kong since May... 2027 01:59:24,924 --> 01:59:28,133 MALE REPORTER 1: -. remember, that was back reportedly on May 20th. 2028 01:59:28,762 --> 01:59:31,333 MALE REPORTER 1: .-.Snowden has checked out of the luxury bore! in Hong Kong, 2029 01:59:31,431 --> 01:59:32,637 where he had been holed up. 2030 01:59:35,802 --> 01:59:36,837 TIBBO: You might turn your eyes away. 2031 01:59:36,936 --> 01:59:38,347 FEMALE REPORTER: ...00: likely take action against him 2032 01:59:38,438 --> 01:59:39,439 without an arrest warrant from the U. S. 2033 01:59:39,506 --> 01:59:42,180 MALE REPORTER 2: The Justice Department had to go to Interpol so that Snowden, 2034 01:59:42,275 --> 01:59:44,448 if he tried to cross a border, he could be intercepted and detained. 2035 01:59:44,511 --> 01:59:45,956 MALE REPORTER 3: Snowden is still in hiding. 2036 01:59:46,012 --> 01:59:47,013 So again... 2037 01:59:47,113 --> 01:59:48,786 MALE REPORTER 42 But the Americans are now closing in. 2038 01:59:48,848 --> 01:59:51,021 They almost certainly know where he is, 2039 01:59:51,117 --> 01:59:53,723 they just need Hong Kong's approval to get him. 2040 01:59:53,820 --> 01:59:55,527 FEMALE REPORTER 1: The Hong Kong government does have 2041 01:59:55,622 --> 01:59:57,659 an extradition agreement with Washington. 2042 01:59:57,724 --> 01:59:58,862 But the ultimate decision... 2043 01:59:58,958 --> 02:00:02,371 FEMALE REPORTER 2: So the big question here is, where is he now? 2044 02:00:02,462 --> 02:00:03,634 (KNOCKS ON DOOR) 2045 02:00:04,964 --> 02:00:08,173 Thank you. This is Ed. Ed, Mayana. 2046 02:00:08,234 --> 02:00:09,907 Hi, Ed. Welcome. Thank you. 2047 02:00:10,336 --> 02:00:11,872 (GREETING IN TAMIL) SNOWDEN; Thank you. 2048 02:00:12,806 --> 02:00:14,717 TIBBO: These are good people. They won't talk. 2049 02:00:15,375 --> 02:00:18,185 I've been handling their cases for years. They're like you. 2050 02:00:18,244 --> 02:00:19,416 That's so nice. 2051 02:00:19,746 --> 02:00:21,657 They're stateless. Yeah. 2052 02:00:22,148 --> 02:00:25,561 TIBBO: So we're wailing on the UN application for refugee status. 2053 02:00:25,652 --> 02:00:26,756 Yeah. 2054 02:00:26,853 --> 02:00:29,697 Just in case you're arrested, this is where you can call me. 2055 02:00:29,756 --> 02:00:30,826 Yeah. 2056 02:00:32,992 --> 02:00:34,096 Good. 2057 02:00:34,828 --> 02:00:36,102 Thank you so much. 2058 02:00:40,333 --> 02:00:45,009 You may not feel it, Ed, but you're not alone. 2059 02:00:45,872 --> 02:00:46,942 Thank you. 2060 02:00:49,542 --> 02:00:51,613 FEMALE REPORTER: ...his longtime girlfriend, Lindsay Mills, 2061 02:00:51,711 --> 02:00:52,917 an amateur photographer, 2062 02:00:53,012 --> 02:00:54,423 has not been heard from. 2063 02:00:54,514 --> 02:00:56,425 Ifs believed she's in seclusion 2064 02:00:56,516 --> 02:00:58,018 in her parents' home in Maryland, 2065 02:00:58,084 --> 02:00:59,927 and has been questioned by the FBI 2066 02:01:00,019 --> 02:01:01,930 and remains under investigation. 2067 02:01:03,857 --> 02:01:07,600 MALE REPORTER: Ten days have now gone by, as the world looks for Edward Snowden. 2068 02:01:07,694 --> 02:01:11,107 Rumors have surfaced that a rich supporter is hiding Snowden 2069 02:01:11,197 --> 02:01:14,542 somewhere in the Hong Kong hills in a private mansion. 2070 02:01:40,093 --> 02:01:42,300 (WOMAN SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY ON PA) 2071 02:01:46,566 --> 02:01:48,944 MALE REPORTER 12 It is now confirmed that Edward Snowden 2072 02:01:49,002 --> 02:01:51,312 has boarded a flight from Hong Kong 10 Moscow. 2073 02:01:51,404 --> 02:01:53,281 FEMALE REPORTER 1: The State Department is very dfsappofn ted 2074 02:01:53,339 --> 02:01:54,977 in the authorities in Hang Kong 2075 02:01:55,074 --> 02:01:56,678 for letting Snowden go. 2076 02:01:56,776 --> 02:01:59,313 MALE REPORTER 2: He was accompanied by a representative from WikfLeaks. 2077 02:01:59,412 --> 02:02:02,586 MALE REPORTER 31 Snowden is trying to make his way from Russia to Cuba, 2078 02:02:02,649 --> 02:02:04,856 and then to Ecuador for political asylum. 2079 02:02:04,951 --> 02:02:07,158 FEMALE REPORTER 2: Moscow airport officiafs say he won't be permitted 2080 02:02:07,253 --> 02:02:08,664 to make his connective flight 2081 02:02:08,755 --> 02:02:11,167 because the US. government has revoked his passport. 2082 02:02:11,257 --> 02:02:13,965 MALE REPORTER 4: The United States Secretary of State, John Kerry, 2083 02:02:14,027 --> 02:02:17,941 outraged that Russia is refusing to arrest the American fugitive. 2084 02:02:17,997 --> 02:02:22,173 MALE REPORTER 5: Now a man without a country stranded inside the Moscow airport. 2085 02:02:22,268 --> 02:02:24,942 No, I'm not gonna be scrambling jets, uh, 2086 02:02:25,004 --> 02:02:29,612 to get a 29-year-old hacker. 2087 02:02:31,177 --> 02:02:32,656 FEMALE REPORTER 3: The President of Bolivia's plane 2088 02:02:32,712 --> 02:02:35,022 was forced down in Austria airspace today 2089 02:02:35,114 --> 02:02:39,358 following U.S. suspicions that Snowden may have been on board. 2090 02:02:39,452 --> 02:02:41,830 MALE REPORTER 8'. After 39 days in the airport hotel, 2091 02:02:41,888 --> 02:02:44,334 he's left with his Russian iawyer and a iega§ adviser 2092 02:02:44,390 --> 02:02:46,529 from WikiLeaks, Sarah Harrison. 2093 02:02:47,393 --> 02:02:50,203 MALE REPORTER 7: He can now enjoy ab' of the sweet, sweet liberty 2094 02:02:50,296 --> 02:02:53,470 allowed under the regime of President Vladimir Putin. 2095 02:02:53,533 --> 02:02:56,707 TRUMP: There is still a thing called execution. 2096 02:02:56,803 --> 02:02:58,146 Mr. Snowden actually deserves asylum 2097 02:02:58,204 --> 02:02:59,512 and protection around the globe. 2098 02:02:59,572 --> 02:03:02,712 But he does have asylum in Russia at least. 2099 02:03:02,809 --> 02:03:04,811 He can engage in the debate he started. 2100 02:03:05,411 --> 02:03:06,719 And the world now has an example 2101 02:03:06,813 --> 02:03:08,053 that you can do the right thing, 2102 02:03:08,147 --> 02:03:11,890 and you donfl have to end up in a cage, one mom, a prison. 2103 02:03:13,987 --> 02:03:17,161 MALE REPORTER: After more than a year m the country under temporary asylum, 2104 02:03:17,223 --> 02:03:21,672 Edward Snowden has received a three-year residency permit m Russia. 2105 02:03:30,003 --> 02:03:33,041 MALE MODERATOR: And now, here live from Moscow, 2106 02:03:33,339 --> 02:03:34,909 Edward Snowden. (APPLAUSE) 2107 02:03:36,276 --> 02:03:38,187 Hi, Ed. How you doing? 2108 02:03:43,549 --> 02:03:45,028 SNOWDENI (ON SPEAKERS) Thank you. 2109 02:03:45,618 --> 02:03:48,030 Uh, forgive me if I get my bearings a lime bit here. 2110 02:03:48,087 --> 02:03:50,567 People always said I was kind of a robot. 2111 02:03:50,623 --> 02:03:51,795 (AUDIENCE LAUGHS) 2112 02:03:52,058 --> 02:03:54,561 MODERATOR: How is I! that you came to be in Russia? 2113 02:03:55,194 --> 02:03:56,935 Well, I never intended to come here. 2114 02:03:57,030 --> 02:04:00,944 You know, my passport was revoked en route to Latin America. 2115 02:04:01,034 --> 02:04:03,640 So when people say, "Why are you in Russia?" 2116 02:04:03,736 --> 02:04:06,615 I say, "Ask the State Department." 2117 02:04:07,540 --> 02:04:11,044 Does that mean you're willing to go back and face trial? 2118 02:04:11,744 --> 02:04:15,658 Absolutely, if it was a fair and public trial. 2119 02:04:16,282 --> 02:04:19,058 Unfortunately, that's not what would happen right now, 2120 02:04:19,118 --> 02:04:23,225 as long as the Espionage Act is being used against whistleblowers. 2121 02:04:24,557 --> 02:04:26,503 MODERATOR: Do you still think it was worth it? 2122 02:04:26,592 --> 02:04:27,627 Yes, I do. 2123 02:04:27,727 --> 02:04:31,641 Without the information to start a public debate, 2124 02:04:31,731 --> 02:04:33,142 we're lost. You know... 2125 02:04:33,733 --> 02:04:37,271 The people being able to question our government 2126 02:04:37,337 --> 02:04:39,977 and hold it accountable, 2127 02:04:40,073 --> 02:04:44,988 that's the principle that the United States of America was founded on. 2128 02:04:45,078 --> 02:04:48,821 So if we want to protect our national security, 2129 02:04:48,915 --> 02:04:51,327 we should be protecting that principle. 2130 02:04:52,952 --> 02:04:55,262 MODERATOR: What if your argument fails on deaf ears? 2131 02:04:55,321 --> 02:04:57,665 What if our leaders don't act? 2132 02:04:58,458 --> 02:05:01,667 I believe that, if nothing changes, 2133 02:05:02,662 --> 02:05:07,270 more and more penpie all over the world will come forward. 2134 02:05:07,934 --> 02:05:12,940 Whistleblowers and journalists, but also regular citizens. 2135 02:05:13,773 --> 02:05:19,621 And when those in power try to hide by classifying everything, 2136 02:05:20,346 --> 02:05:23,190 we will call them out on it. 2137 02:05:23,716 --> 02:05:29,496 And when they try to scare us into sacrificing our basic human rights, 2138 02:05:29,555 --> 02:05:31,865 we won't be intimidated, 2139 02:05:31,958 --> 02:05:36,634 and we won't give up, and we will not be silenced. 2140 02:05:38,231 --> 02:05:40,074 You're atone in a foreign country, 2141 02:05:40,166 --> 02:05:43,409 you'll be extradited if you try to leave. 2142 02:05:43,503 --> 02:05:45,176 That must be ham. 2143 02:05:57,683 --> 02:06:01,221 When I left Hawaii, I lost everything. 2144 02:06:04,891 --> 02:06:06,871 And I had a stable life. 2145 02:06:07,193 --> 02:06:08,604 (CHUCKLES) 2146 02:06:09,896 --> 02:06:12,001 A stable love. 2147 02:06:12,065 --> 02:06:14,011 Family. Future. 2148 02:06:15,835 --> 02:06:17,678 And I lost that life, 2149 02:06:20,606 --> 02:06:22,677 but I've gained a new one, 2150 02:06:25,111 --> 02:06:26,954 and I'm incredibly fortunate. 2151 02:06:29,415 --> 02:06:30,723 And I think 2152 02:06:32,718 --> 02:06:34,197 the greatest freedom that I've gained 2153 02:06:34,253 --> 02:06:37,860 is the fact that I no longer have to worry about what happens tomorrow, 2154 02:06:37,924 --> 02:06:40,302 because I'm happy with what I've done today. 2155 02:06:45,932 --> 02:06:48,776 Live from the Internet, Edward Snowden! 2156 02:06:48,868 --> 02:06:50,541 (APPLAUSE) 2157 02:06:52,071 --> 02:06:53,982 (CHEERING AND WHISTLING) 2158 02:08:06,779 --> 02:08:08,383 MALE REPORTER: Has your mindset changed about him ? 2159 02:08:08,481 --> 02:08:12,554 Is he now more whistleblower than he is a, uh, hacker? 2160 02:08:49,989 --> 02:08:51,935 MALE REPORTER: What is going to happen to Edward Snowden? 2161 02:08:52,024 --> 02:08:54,732 He's going to die in Moscow. He's not coming home. 2162 02:09:32,798 --> 02:09:35,039 Edward Snowden, is he a traitor or a hero? 2163 02:09:35,101 --> 02:09:38,378 HILLARY CLINTON: He stole very important information. 2164 02:09:56,956 --> 02:09:58,299 MALE REPORTER: We have breaking news tonight... 2165 02:09:58,391 --> 02:09:59,392 Among {he reforms, 2166 02:09:59,458 --> 02:10:02,132 work with Congress to change how the NSA coffecrs phone records. 2167 02:10:03,329 --> 02:10:05,775 Mandate more transparency by the secret court 2168 02:10:05,831 --> 02:10:07,936 that regularly approves the surveillance. 2169 02:10:09,835 --> 02:10:11,815 MAN: Well, is it a victory for Edward Snowden? 2170 02:10:11,904 --> 02:10:13,747 That's gonna depend on the eye of the beholder. 2171 02:10:15,508 --> 02:10:17,920 LINCOLN CHAFFEE: The American government was acting fffegaffy. 2172 02:10:17,977 --> 02:10:20,924 HILLARY CLINTON: tdonT think he shoutd be brought home without facing the music. 2173 02:10:22,948 --> 02:10:24,791 SANDERS: Snowden played a very important role 2174 02:10:24,850 --> 02:10:26,989 in educating the American people 2175 02:10:27,086 --> 02:10:31,501 in the degree in which our civil liberties and our constitutionm rights 2176 02:10:31,590 --> 02:10:32,694 are being undermined. 171407

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