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[Joe]
You know, you ever find
yourself backstage around 7:25
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on a show day?
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We could be discussing
collective bargaining agreements
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or we could be most likely
discussing guitars and amps.
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And I always will
politely excuse myself.
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And around 7:25,
I always tell people
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and sometimes they get
confused when I say it, I go,
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"Excuse me, I gotta go
become the other guy."
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And, um, they always try
to write off the blues.
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Always write off the blues.
Nobody likes the blues.
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Well, we'’ve proven that
there'’s at least 9,000 people
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tonight that like the blues.[crowd cheering]
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[blues music playing]
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♪ Who killed John Henry♪
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♪ In the battle of
Sinners and saints♪
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♪ Who killed John Henry♪
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♪ In the battle of
Sinners and saints♪
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[man] I don'’t think he wants
to be part of the machine.
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I don'’t think he wants to be
part of major label
corporate America
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that need to have
a pop song to cross over.
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I think he is absolutely
comfortable and confident
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in this genre that
he has created
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and sub-genre which,
by the way,
is almost all him now.
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♪ I don'’t want
Your cold iron shackles♪
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This blues rock, blues, rock
area that he is number one in.
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He has more number one
blues albums than anyone else
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in blues history,
more than B.B. King,
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more than Stevie Ray Vaughan
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more than Eric Clapton,
more than Buddy Guy.
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Joe Bonamassa
is the number-one
Billboard blues artist,
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and you can'’t take
that away from him.
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But ask most people
and they'’ll say, "Bona who?"
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♪ In the battle of
Sinners and saints♪
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♪ I'’m a long way
From Colorado♪
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♪ A long way from my home♪
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♪ Gimme the hammer that
Killed John Henry♪
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♪ '’Cause it won'’t
Kill no more♪
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♪ Gimme the hammer that
Killed John Henry♪
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♪ '’Cause it won'’t kill me♪
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♪ Gimme the hammer that
Killed John Henry♪
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♪ '’Cause it won'’t kill me♪
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[Joe] Hi. Hi.
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[birds chirping]Okay, so now,
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I received a letter from you
for an outstanding bill
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for $100 which I paid
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even though it
was against my better judgment.
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On my birth
certificate I was born
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in New Hartford, New York,
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May 8, 1977.
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It was reportedly to be
a painful birth,
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because my original due
date was May 5, 1977.
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And I decided to spend
an extra three days
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um, interned,
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and I think they were
just about to go in
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and, you know, manually
remove me by force,
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and I decided to
come out voluntarily.
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[interviewer chuckles]So, that'’s the story.
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Like, what do they say?
The old saying,
"What starts bad ends bad."
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[blues music playing]
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[Kevin] It'’s been interesting
to watch him with the suit thing
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because he'’s also
gone through periods,
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and I'’m not sure
how much he sees it.
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But he went through a period
when he started getting
recognized more and more.
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And it took him a minute to
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learn how to deal
with the success
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that was coming his way.
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And he'’s managed
to deal with it by
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being sort of bipolar
about the thing.
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He is Joe, with his baseball cap
on and his blue jeans
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and at 7:25 he puts on the suit
for an 8:00 show.
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And he slicks his hair back.
He puts on the sunglasses.
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And then he has a glass of wine.
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And Joe Bonamassa
the recording artist comes out.
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And then he'’s a different guy.
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Then he becomes
a little bit Howard Hughes.
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He becomes a little standoffish.
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He becomes a little isolated.
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And it'’s great.
We just let him be like that.
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[drums playing][crowd cheering]
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[Joe] The other guy
is the guy in the suit
and the sunglasses.
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and that whole persona.
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And it'’s not only
just that outfit,
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it'’s a stage persona
in the sense that, like,
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when I suit up,
and I go out and play,
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that'’s a different
side of my personality.
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That'’s--
That'’s not, you know--
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I'’m not that outgoing offstage,
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I'’m not that
confident offstage.
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[Kevin] And then
at the end of the show,
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he normally dresses
down quickly,
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puts on his baseball cap,
puts a backpack over him,
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and he walks straight
through the crowd
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that have watched
him play all night
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and they don'’t know
this guy is going out.
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And he walks through
them and onto his bus,
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and no one stops him.
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It'’s fantastic.
He really is two people.
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He'’s two-faced.
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[crowd cheering]
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[big band jazz music playing]
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[Joe] My family has been
into music for a long time.
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My great-grandfather
played trumpet.
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He was a very talented
young trumpet player,
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who could have
done great things,
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but for the fact
that he had a family.
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So, in order to make money,
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he would teach trumpet
and play local gigs.
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My great-grandfather,
"Buddha" Bonamassa,
really lived by that.
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He took care of business,
and he took care of his family.
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There'’s also a rumor that
he ran numbers for the Mafia,
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which being
Italian-American descent,
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at the time, in the town that
I grew up in, makes sense.
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[music continues]
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His son, Leonard Sr.,
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played trumpet,
followed in his footsteps,
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played big band jazz.
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And my father, being
a product of the '’60s,
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played a Gibson SG.
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[man] And Joe kind of
followed in step.
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He saw the passion
I had for music
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and wanted to play like Dad.
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It didn'’t take him too long
to learn how to play like dad.
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And he walked right by me
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when he was six
and a half years old.
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And then I knew that he had
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an amazing gift, a talent.
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[blues music playing]
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[Joe] And then, I blindly
followed all three of them
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into the music business
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when I was 11,
just about to turn 12.
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I convinced my parents that
I wanted to be in a band
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be in a blues band,
play guitar, you know?
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I just wanted to make some money
so I could buy a Fender amp.
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I think I did okay.
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[blues music playing]
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I started playing
at the age of four.
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My father put
a guitar in my hand.
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We got him a Chiquita guitar,
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um, which is a short
and scaled-down model
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of a solid body
electric guitar
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actually designed
for airplane use.
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And I think it was
the perfect guitar for him,
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and he was able to play it.
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And by the time he was five,
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five and a half years old,
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he was playing
chords on a guitar.
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And he never looked
back from that point.
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[Joe] When I was 11 and 12,
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I was sitting in
with a lot of national,
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internationally well-known
blues artists.
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It'’s where I met B.B. King.
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This is when I met
Albert Collins and Buddy Guy.
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Anybody who would have me.
I was a little kid
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that crashed the party
in upstate New York.
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"Oh, here comes Joe
with his Telecaster."
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He was 13 years old.
What can you expect?
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He'’s fantastic.
He'’s fantastic.
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We got a call
and asked if Joe would like
to open up for B.B. King
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in downtown Rochester.
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and there was like
8,500 people at the show.
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That was his first big show.
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And it was the day
before his 12th birthday.
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And he opened up,
and he just took the crowd.
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It was just amazing to see
the response from the crowd.
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So after that happened, we get
a telephone call from NBC.
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It was the Jane Pauley people.
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They wanted to do
a segment on him.
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There was a show called Real Life with Jane Pauley.
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It'’s about ordinary people
doing extraordinary things.
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The fantasies that
13-year-olds have
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about what they'’ll
do when they grow up
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involve everything from
playing major league sports
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to playing in a big-time band.
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Bill Schechner
has found one young man
too busy for fantasy.
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He'’s living it.
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[school bell ringing]
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[Bill] In the hallway
of a crowded school,
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there is no reason
to notice Joe Bonamassa.
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He'’s simply
another 13-year-old
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at an awkward stage of life.
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[Young Joe]
Oh, shoot. That could
cause a problem.
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-X.
-[teacher] Good.
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[Bill]
Often doing well.
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-One hundred.
-[teacher] Terrific.
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Sometimes messing up.
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No, I had to find my report.
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I had to rummage
through all that.All right.
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'’Cause I dropped
my folder and it doesn'’t...
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[Bill] Just one more kid, until he picks up a guitar,
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and the boy lost in the crowd
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becomes the performer
drawing a crowd:
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Smokin'’ Joe.
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[blues music playing]
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[Young Joe]
I feel secure with
a guitar in my hand.
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A lot of people say
you have to say something
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when you play guitar.
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And I feel that my hands
are doing the talking
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instead of my mouth.
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I feel really comfortable,
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'’cause I have something
in my hand, you know,
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something I'’ve always
had in my hands
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since I can remember.
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[music continues]
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[B.B.] Playing blues music,
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it'’s timing.
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You don'’t always know where
the children get this from.
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You don'’t really know.
But all I know is he got it.
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I think that'’s the best
I can say. He does have it.
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[blues music playing]
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♪ Thrill is gone♪
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♪ Thrill is gone
Away from me♪
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[Len] After the Jane Pauley
show aired, we received
many phone calls
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from a lot of different
professional management firms.
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We heard from
Stevie Ray Vaughan'’s manager,
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the New Kids
on the Block'’s law firm.
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They were hot at the time
in the early '’90s.
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Um, Columbia Records flew
us down to New York
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and they wanted
to talk with Joe.
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And so, a lot of things
were happening
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from this little tiny village
of Yorkville, New York.
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And my wife and I go,
"What do we do here?"
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It was a very confusing time
to know what to do for him.
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And what he wanted to do.[Len] Yeah.
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After the Jane Pauley
show aired,
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this is where the Weismans
came in, Joe'’s management.
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And they flew up here
and talked with us,
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and they'’re great people.
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And Joe is still
with Roy Weisman,
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and they'’ve been
together ever since.
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They were a family operation,
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and I think we could
relate to that
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and appreciate that.
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[Roy] My father was the manager
to many of the great
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stars from the original era
of the record business.
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He managed people
like Frank Sinatra,
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Liza Minnelli
and Paul Anka, Sammy Davis.
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I got to meet most
of those people
and spend time with them.
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I stayed at
Frank Sinatra'’s house.
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I got to fly on
the plane with him.
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It was cool.
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Well, I don'’t know
if he was working for me,
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or I was working for him.
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I'’m not quite sure.
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I mean, that'’s debatable.
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[Roy]
I saw a lot of shows from
the wings, with Sinatra.
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And, I mean, he was
the ultimate professional.
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He loved to start on time.
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His show was at 8:00,
he started 8:00.
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And Bonamassa is the same way.
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First of all, I saw the tape
from the Jane Pauley show.
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Anybody involved
in music, I mean,
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could realize that,
at 13 years old,
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Joey could play the guitar
better than anybody
I ever saw at that age.
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If you want to do something
big in the music business,
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you'’ve got to get involved
with young artists.
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And by de facto,
we end up with Bloodline,
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which was Berry Oakley Jr.,
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Waylon Krieger, Erin Davis,
Aaron Hagar,
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Joe Bonamassa and Lou Segreti.
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All put together and around
for Joe Bonamassa.
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That was another
good idea Roy had,
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is, you know,
what do we do with Joey
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in between the time
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he'’s trying
to develop his voice,
or for us to find out
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if he was gonna have one
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that would be compatible
with his guitar playing.
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And I said to him,
"What do we do now?"
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And he says, "Dad,
don'’t worry about it."
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By the way had no idea.
[laughs]
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Definitely, he said,
"Dad, don'’t worry about it.
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I got these kids,
they all have famous parents."
Bah, bah, bah...
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Anyway, that was a chapter
in itself that was unbelievable.
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I mean the band ended up
getting signed to EMI.
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It took three years to
get the first record out.
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[Kevin] The Bloodline album
was released in 1994.
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And then the record company
had Bloodline
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doing all sorts of promotion
all over the country
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and playing late night
television shows
like Conan O'’Brien.
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Ladies and gentlemen,
carrying on the family business
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is the name of the game
with my next guest, Bloodline.
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Features the sons
of Miles Davis,
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Robby Krieger of The Doors,
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and Berry Oakley
of the Allman Brothers,
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as well as teenage guitar
wizard Smokin'’ Joe Bonamassa.
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Please welcome, Bloodline!
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[blues music playing]
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[Kevin] And they even
went on Mike and Maty
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to play the new single.What are we playing today?
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"Calling Me Back.""Calling Me Back"?
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And the CD is?[both] Bloodline.
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Fire it up guys.
Here'’s Smokin'’ Joe.
Make us proud.
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Here we go.[audience applauding]
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Two, three four...
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[Joe] We made the record.
Phil Ramone attempted to
produce the first recordings.
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Mark Hudson attempted to
produce the first recordings.
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Finally, the only guy that
really kind of tamed the beast
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and could actually get
a record out of us
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was a guy named Joe Hardy,
who lives in Houston,
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who produces a lot of
the ZZ Top catalog.
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And Joe was not a diplomat.
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He didn'’t care, and he just
needed to make the record.
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Joe is, uh...
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just this incredible
guitar player.
I mean, it'’s freakish.
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It'’s sort of like
a cat on it'’s hind legs
or something.
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You can'’t believe
that this guy can play
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so maturely for a 16-year-old.
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[blues guitar playing]
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During that process,
there were a lot of fundamental
differences between Joe
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who was the prodigy,
and the "sons of."
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Everyone was great kids,
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but the "sons of"
didn'’t have the work ethic
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that Joe Bonamassa had.
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And that was apparent.
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All Joe wanted
to do was play guitar
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and do... make music,
you know, do this stuff.
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The kids, all they wanted to do,
they were a few years older,
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they wanted to have fun
and didn'’t want
to work that hard.
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I think everybody is more
conscious of what they do
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when I'’m around.[all laugh]
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Yeah, right.
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But--Yeah, but you'’re
an old man in a kid'’s body
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Oh, that'’s right.
I think of myself as
an old man in a kid'’s body.
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[blues rock music playing]
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I understand that some pudgy
18-year-old going, "Hey guys,
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let'’s try to make these tunes,
something out of these songs.
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And by the way, I don'’t
wanna play alternative music.
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I don'’t wanna do this.
We should make it...
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And, by the way,
I want long guitar solos,"
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I understand how that'’s
a toxic element to the band.
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And then we were about
to make the next record
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and Berry Oakley
and Waylon Krieger come to me
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and say that they don'’t
wanna be in a band with Joe.
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And I'’m like,
"Are you kidding me?
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We just, we have about
five years with this thing.
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And you guys wanna...
We'’re about to make
the second record for EMI,
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and you wanna break
this up at this point?"
And they'’re like, "Yeah."
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You know, I could tell with
my conversations with him,
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he was having
a lot of frustration.
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Or frustrations
with the members,
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the egos of these kids,
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and whatever problems they had
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or whatever medicine
they were taking.
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And it got to a point where,
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you know, it was serious money
we had invested already.
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And at the end of the day,
I let it fall apart.
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That was a hard moment
for me, because I had
to go back to my boss,
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who was my father at that
time, and say, "Listen,
by the way, you know,
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this project that
our company has a fortune
of money invested into?
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We got to write that off."
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And I went to Roy,
and I said to him,
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I said, "Listen,
you got two choices, okay?
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The first choice is okay.
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You got to tell Bloodline,
all those guys, to get lost.
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And your second choice
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is whether you want
to stick with Joey,
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which I think you should,
and develop him into an artist."
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And that basically
was our conversation,
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because he realized
at that point
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that Bloodline
was falling apart anyway.
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And that, either
he went all the way
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with Joey or forget about it.
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Two things happen when you
turn 18. The band breaks up.
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Well, that'’s partly
my own fault.
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Two, nobody cares
when you'’re 18.
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'’Cause now you'’re just--
You'’ve gone from chosen one
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to you are lopped
into the same pile
of guitar players
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that everybody else is.
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And I didn'’t sing.
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And I was fat.
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Not exactly what you call
"show business material."
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And I have a long last name,
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which, to this day,
people can'’t pronounce.
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My big question,
as I said before,
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that if he could develop
a voice around that talent
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he had to play the guitar,
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it would be all over.
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[Joe] When I was in Bloodline,
I had no interest in singing.
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I was just a guitar player.
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I loved being the guitar player.
It was cool.
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I was living with my parents.
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And I was helping Dad out
with the guitar shop.
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And I was making
demos at the house,
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trying to get my voice up.
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00:20:56,972 --> 00:20:59,801
After Bloodline, a different set
of circumstances came about.
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I was looking into
a new musical direction,
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00:21:02,107 --> 00:21:03,413
tried to do some stuff.
387
00:21:03,587 --> 00:21:05,676
And I decided,
"Well, now or never."
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I was 18, I was like,
"Now or never."
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If I don'’t start singing now,
I'’m never going to do it.
390
00:21:10,986 --> 00:21:13,728
And I'’ll always go through life
wondering if I ever could.
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So I just started singing,
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just belting stuff out
in my room.
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♪ I miss you♪
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♪ I hate you♪
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I did some work
with Little Steven.
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[Roy] Van Zandt,
from Springsteen'’s band.
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And that was
his next little thing,
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because at that point,
there was like nothing going on.
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And Little Steven was interested
in making some demos with Joe.
400
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And they go off,
and they make some demos,
401
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and Joe'’s singing.
402
00:21:41,277 --> 00:21:43,192
And it'’s great to hear him sing.
403
00:21:43,671 --> 00:21:45,107
But...
404
00:21:46,500 --> 00:21:48,806
he'’s got Joe in a direction
that'’s kind of like
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not really
where Joe wants to be.
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♪ The subway'’s
Temporary grace♪
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00:21:56,379 --> 00:21:59,861
♪ A pantomime on
A cigarette break♪
408
00:22:01,906 --> 00:22:06,258
♪ Norton Fibler
Takes his place♪
409
00:22:06,433 --> 00:22:11,002
♪ The politician'’s
Got no face♪
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Kinda, I didn'’t know
what to do.
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I didn'’t know what direction.
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I'’m in Utica, New York.
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Not exactly a place
where things are happening.
414
00:22:20,055 --> 00:22:21,491
I'’m at home.
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00:22:21,665 --> 00:22:24,407
It'’s one of those things where,
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00:22:24,581 --> 00:22:27,062
even though I had
nothing going on,
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the pressure of time,
felt exhausting.
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00:22:30,195 --> 00:22:34,069
It felt like I needed
to change my trajectory
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really, really quick.
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And Phil Ramone'’s label
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signed me to
a development deal.
422
00:22:42,773 --> 00:22:46,473
[Phil] Prodigies come
few and far between.
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I saw him take
an audience apart.
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He'’s so musical
and untrained,
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00:22:56,352 --> 00:22:58,833
which I loved,
'’cause there was nothing
that held him back.
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Nothing ever held him back
from doing anything.
427
00:23:01,357 --> 00:23:04,360
And we were all
set to do some demos
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00:23:04,534 --> 00:23:06,449
and make some recordings
with Terry Manning
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00:23:06,623 --> 00:23:09,191
in the Bahamas.
430
00:23:09,365 --> 00:23:13,456
And right before I was
supposed to get on the plane,
431
00:23:13,630 --> 00:23:15,676
the label shut down.
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00:23:20,550 --> 00:23:22,596
So I was back to square one.
433
00:23:22,770 --> 00:23:26,861
Again now, a year later,
and I was just lost.
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And I asked Roy
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to call around and see
if somebody would hire me
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00:23:32,736 --> 00:23:36,261
just as a guitar player,
you know, go play with whoever.
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00:23:36,436 --> 00:23:38,742
And I said to him,
"If you want me to do that,
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I'’m happy to do that,
look for a gig for you.
439
00:23:41,919 --> 00:23:45,445
But, if you have
any desire to be the man
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and the front man,
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00:23:48,448 --> 00:23:49,840
now'’s the time to go for it,
442
00:23:50,014 --> 00:23:51,538
because you'’re
in your early 20s.
443
00:23:51,712 --> 00:23:55,367
And in the end,
if that doesn'’t work out,
444
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you still have plenty of time
to find another career."
445
00:23:57,805 --> 00:24:00,547
So he starts
calling A&R people
that he knew in New York,
446
00:24:00,721 --> 00:24:03,680
one of which being
Michael Caplan at Epic.
447
00:24:03,854 --> 00:24:07,945
He sent my little
cassette demos around,
and Michael Caplan hears it.
448
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,687
He goes, "I like it."
449
00:24:10,861 --> 00:24:14,517
And Roy goes,
"Oh, so one of your artists
needs a guitar player?"
450
00:24:14,691 --> 00:24:16,563
He goes like,
"You'’re not hearing me.
I like it.
451
00:24:16,737 --> 00:24:19,304
I wanna see about signing Joe."
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00:24:20,262 --> 00:24:23,700
Which completely blindsided me.
453
00:24:24,832 --> 00:24:27,878
So I met with Michael
at that point,
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00:24:28,052 --> 00:24:30,446
and he goes, "Okay,
here'’s what we'’re gonna do.
455
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You'’re gonna make a demo for me
456
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of '’A New Day Yesterday,'’
from Jethro Tull."
457
00:24:34,972 --> 00:24:37,497
He plays me this song,
"A New Day Yesterday."
458
00:24:37,671 --> 00:24:39,586
I was like, "Oh, that'’s cool."
459
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,111
So I had this idea of
making it a two-four feel,
and I make him a demo.
460
00:24:43,285 --> 00:24:45,809
I send him the song
two days later,
and he calls me up,
461
00:24:45,983 --> 00:24:49,639
he goes, "Have you ever
heard of Tom Dowd?" I'’m like,
"Yeah, I know who Tom Dowd is."
462
00:24:49,813 --> 00:24:51,859
[Kevin] Tom Dowd was
a legendary record producer
463
00:24:52,033 --> 00:24:54,078
who had produced everyone
from Aretha Franklin
464
00:24:54,252 --> 00:24:56,690
to Ray Charles,
The Allman Brothers
465
00:24:56,864 --> 00:24:59,083
Eric Clapton
and Rod Stewart.
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00:24:59,257 --> 00:25:01,521
My father graduated
Stuyvesant High School,
467
00:25:01,695 --> 00:25:05,742
which was the math
and science high school
in New York City.
468
00:25:05,916 --> 00:25:08,005
And he was a sergeant
in the US Army.
469
00:25:08,179 --> 00:25:11,879
And he was working
with the cyclotrons.
470
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[reporter] The energy that generates the heat of the sun
471
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and operates the solar system
472
00:25:23,717 --> 00:25:26,154
comes under
the will of humankind.
473
00:25:26,328 --> 00:25:28,156
The blast changes
the atomic structure
474
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of everything it hits.
475
00:25:30,158 --> 00:25:32,464
Stone and steel
are turned into gas.
476
00:25:34,902 --> 00:25:37,905
[Dana] The Manhattan Project
was a web of universities
477
00:25:38,079 --> 00:25:39,820
the government
had harnessed together,
478
00:25:39,994 --> 00:25:41,517
so it was all very top secret.
479
00:25:44,259 --> 00:25:47,044
After the United States
dropped the bombs in Japan,
480
00:25:47,218 --> 00:25:49,177
he goes back to
community college in New York,
481
00:25:49,351 --> 00:25:51,919
and he has to take
a couple more physics
and chemistry classes
482
00:25:52,093 --> 00:25:53,398
in order to graduate.
483
00:25:53,573 --> 00:25:55,792
So he walks into
the first day of class
484
00:25:55,966 --> 00:25:58,403
and there'’s a periodic table
on the wall.
485
00:25:58,578 --> 00:26:00,667
[reporter] For years,
scientists have tried to
486
00:26:00,841 --> 00:26:03,278
break up this atom
by shooting neutrons
at its core.
487
00:26:03,452 --> 00:26:05,759
But the whirling electrons seemed impenetrable.
488
00:26:05,933 --> 00:26:08,413
Then finally scientists
broke through those walls
489
00:26:08,588 --> 00:26:10,024
with a slow neutron,
490
00:26:10,198 --> 00:26:12,504
releasing 500 million
volts of energy
491
00:26:12,679 --> 00:26:14,376
and forming two new atoms,
492
00:26:14,550 --> 00:26:16,857
barium and krypton.
493
00:26:17,031 --> 00:26:19,599
And he knows that there'’s
more elements that exist
494
00:26:19,773 --> 00:26:21,296
because he had just
helped discover them.
495
00:26:21,470 --> 00:26:22,906
So he dropped out of school.
496
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,953
And there was
a newspaper article,
497
00:26:26,127 --> 00:26:27,781
probably in
The New York Times,
498
00:26:27,955 --> 00:26:29,652
and it'’s Fischer studios,
499
00:26:29,826 --> 00:26:32,568
and they were looking
for engineers.
500
00:26:32,742 --> 00:26:34,352
And he was like,
"Hold on a second.
501
00:26:34,526 --> 00:26:37,747
I'’m a physicist and a chemist,
and I play ten instruments.
502
00:26:37,921 --> 00:26:40,097
I think I could
probably fill this role."
503
00:26:40,271 --> 00:26:42,926
Just about every record
that I'’ve grown up with
and just love,
504
00:26:43,100 --> 00:26:44,536
he'’s been involved with.
505
00:26:44,711 --> 00:26:46,800
And when I found out
I had the opportunity
506
00:26:46,974 --> 00:26:48,628
to work with him on
"A New Day Yesterday,"
507
00:26:48,802 --> 00:26:52,370
I was like, "This is gonna be
an opportunity of a lifetime".
508
00:26:52,544 --> 00:26:57,201
Joey has no telltale
weakness or ballistic
509
00:26:57,375 --> 00:26:59,247
as a guitarist.
510
00:26:59,421 --> 00:27:01,466
He can play blues.
511
00:27:01,641 --> 00:27:05,122
He can play jazz.
He is fast.
512
00:27:05,296 --> 00:27:08,212
Next thing you know,
we get signed to Epic,
make a record with Tom Dowd,
513
00:27:08,386 --> 00:27:10,475
which was a legendary
experience for Joe,
514
00:27:10,650 --> 00:27:13,522
to make a record
with somebody like that
as his first record.
515
00:27:13,696 --> 00:27:16,656
♪ '’Cause I feel you♪
516
00:27:16,830 --> 00:27:20,660
♪ I don'’t want to
But I need you, baby♪
517
00:27:28,319 --> 00:27:30,495
[Joe]
He took a real interest
in my life and career.
518
00:27:30,670 --> 00:27:32,802
He took a real interest
in me personally.
519
00:27:32,976 --> 00:27:36,371
'’Cause he saw that unbridled
enthusiasm and he knew,
520
00:27:36,545 --> 00:27:38,939
if I kept singing and writing,
I would do good things.
521
00:27:39,113 --> 00:27:40,636
And he was right.
522
00:27:40,810 --> 00:27:43,291
I'’ve always kept that notion
in the back of my mind.
523
00:27:43,465 --> 00:27:45,946
Just keep improving yourself.
524
00:27:50,254 --> 00:27:55,912
♪ I miss you, I hate you
'’Cause I feel you♪
525
00:27:56,086 --> 00:28:00,438
♪ I don'’t want to
But I need you, yeah♪
526
00:28:00,612 --> 00:28:02,614
♪ I miss you, I hate you♪
527
00:28:02,789 --> 00:28:05,008
[Roy]
Of course, in classic Sony
style, the record gets made.
528
00:28:05,182 --> 00:28:07,707
And by the way, the record
was supposed to be a record
529
00:28:07,881 --> 00:28:10,361
of no pressure.
530
00:28:10,535 --> 00:28:12,363
We'’re not looking
to get on radio,
531
00:28:12,537 --> 00:28:15,627
Joe will sing his songs,
and that'’s the end of it.
532
00:28:15,802 --> 00:28:17,325
That was in the year 1999.
533
00:28:17,499 --> 00:28:22,504
And Sony has its
first bad reporting
534
00:28:22,678 --> 00:28:25,028
quarter, six months,
whatever you want to call it.
535
00:28:25,202 --> 00:28:27,030
And all of a sudden,
everything dried up.
536
00:28:27,204 --> 00:28:30,468
It went from everyone'’s excited
to promoting this thing
537
00:28:30,642 --> 00:28:32,296
to nobody'’s interested
in anything.
538
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,734
So they dropped Joe.
539
00:28:34,908 --> 00:28:39,086
We decided to pick up
the pieces as Joe and Roy
540
00:28:39,260 --> 00:28:41,784
and put these records
out ourselves.
541
00:28:41,958 --> 00:28:43,264
And from that moment forward,
542
00:28:43,438 --> 00:28:45,048
we started to make
our own records
543
00:28:45,222 --> 00:28:46,963
and own our own records.
544
00:28:47,137 --> 00:28:50,793
♪ Woke up dreaming
I was gonna die♪
545
00:28:53,709 --> 00:28:57,104
♪ Woke up dreaming
I was gonna die♪
546
00:28:59,062 --> 00:29:01,369
♪ '’Cause my baby said her♪
547
00:29:01,543 --> 00:29:03,893
♪ Said her last goodbyes♪
548
00:29:04,067 --> 00:29:05,765
[Roy] You know,
I'’m in the music business,
549
00:29:05,939 --> 00:29:08,463
and I'’m running it like a loser,
and the business is crashing.
550
00:29:08,637 --> 00:29:11,074
I mean, the industry
is falling apart.
It'’s now the year 2001.
551
00:29:11,248 --> 00:29:13,337
I mean, Napster'’s just
obliterated the industry.
552
00:29:13,511 --> 00:29:16,558
♪ Reached out for her
And she was not there♪
553
00:29:16,732 --> 00:29:19,039
And I ain'’t playing
this pop shit anymore.
554
00:29:19,213 --> 00:29:21,258
I don'’t wanna hear about radio.
555
00:29:21,432 --> 00:29:27,395
It was a knee jerk reaction
to this being told
556
00:29:27,569 --> 00:29:29,876
that I have to be
fit into a certain mold,
557
00:29:30,050 --> 00:29:31,878
have to be a certain
type of artist.
558
00:29:32,052 --> 00:29:35,403
I'’m gonna make a fucking
blues record, start to finish.
559
00:29:35,577 --> 00:29:38,449
And from that, the idea
of Blues Deluxewas born.
560
00:29:38,623 --> 00:29:41,104
And I felt home when I did it.
561
00:29:41,278 --> 00:29:44,412
And I felt like this is
how I wanted to make music.
562
00:29:44,586 --> 00:29:46,675
You have to go through
the bad experiences
563
00:29:46,849 --> 00:29:49,199
to get to that point.
564
00:29:49,373 --> 00:29:52,463
But once you have
the "I got nothing to lose,"
565
00:29:52,637 --> 00:29:54,117
that'’s when you'’re
the most dangerous.
566
00:29:54,291 --> 00:29:56,816
[blues rock music playing]
567
00:30:12,527 --> 00:30:16,705
We did Blues Deluxe
and we did a record
called Had To Cry Today,
568
00:30:16,879 --> 00:30:18,968
which is kind of like
in the same vein,
569
00:30:19,142 --> 00:30:21,101
they were both produced
by a guy named Bob Held,
570
00:30:21,275 --> 00:30:24,191
who did a very good job
on those records.
571
00:30:24,365 --> 00:30:26,976
And it started to feel
like we had some traction.
572
00:30:27,150 --> 00:30:28,848
We'’re still in the van.
573
00:30:29,674 --> 00:30:31,807
And we'’re still struggling.
574
00:30:31,981 --> 00:30:34,244
Along the way,
while Joe is evolving,
575
00:30:34,418 --> 00:30:37,247
I wasn'’t able to make
any money from the project.
576
00:30:37,421 --> 00:30:39,902
So I think the first
time I ever got paid
577
00:30:40,076 --> 00:30:42,949
from the Joe Bonamassa project
was in the year 2007.
578
00:30:43,123 --> 00:30:45,168
I think at that point, I was--
579
00:30:45,342 --> 00:30:46,996
I had met Joe in 1991.
580
00:30:47,170 --> 00:30:49,869
So, we'’re looking at,
it was year 16.
581
00:30:50,043 --> 00:30:53,437
Roy began to feel
I was kind of stagnating
as an artist,
582
00:30:53,611 --> 00:30:56,745
like just, we'’re still
"barroom" at this point,
583
00:30:56,919 --> 00:30:59,966
And I was thinking about
changing producers and trying
584
00:31:00,140 --> 00:31:03,186
to introduce maybe
another influence to Joe.
585
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:07,190
And this friend of mine
suggested to me,
586
00:31:07,364 --> 00:31:09,540
did I know this
producer Kevin Shirley?
587
00:31:09,714 --> 00:31:11,499
And I said, I did not.
588
00:31:11,673 --> 00:31:13,675
And he showed me
his discography.
589
00:31:13,849 --> 00:31:16,504
And when I looked
at Kevin'’s discography,
590
00:31:16,678 --> 00:31:19,420
and I saw the kind of records
that he was making, I'’m like,
591
00:31:19,594 --> 00:31:22,945
"That is exactly
the kind of producer
I need to put with Joe."
592
00:31:23,119 --> 00:31:27,602
Somebody that understands
mainstream rock
593
00:31:27,776 --> 00:31:31,562
from like the '’70s,
like real rock,
like Led Zeppelin-kind of rock.
594
00:31:31,736 --> 00:31:35,523
And also can maybe take
Joe'’s blues influence
595
00:31:35,697 --> 00:31:37,525
and bring it together as well.
596
00:31:37,699 --> 00:31:39,527
So lo and behold,
I get Kevin'’s number,
597
00:31:39,701 --> 00:31:41,964
and I gave Kevin a call
and introduce myself.
598
00:31:42,138 --> 00:31:44,662
And he'’s at a place
in his career
599
00:31:44,836 --> 00:31:47,404
where he'’s looking to make
an album with somebody
600
00:31:47,578 --> 00:31:49,929
that was also more organic
601
00:31:50,103 --> 00:31:52,279
than he had been
working with at that time.
602
00:31:52,453 --> 00:31:55,108
With the major labels,
he was doing a lot of acts.
603
00:31:55,282 --> 00:31:58,328
And we had a conversation.
I said, "Well, if you want
something more organic,
604
00:31:58,502 --> 00:32:01,027
you'’ve come to the right place.
As a matter of fact,
it'’s so organic,
605
00:32:01,201 --> 00:32:02,637
we don'’t have
money to pay you."
606
00:32:02,811 --> 00:32:04,073
[laughs]
607
00:32:04,247 --> 00:32:06,989
[blues music playing]
608
00:32:15,128 --> 00:32:17,478
♪ Ain'’t no heaven
Or burning hell♪
609
00:32:17,652 --> 00:32:20,220
♪ Ain'’t no heaven
Or burning hell♪
610
00:32:20,394 --> 00:32:23,136
♪ When I die where I go♪
611
00:32:23,310 --> 00:32:25,355
♪ Ain'’t nobody know♪
612
00:32:25,529 --> 00:32:27,575
♪ Ain'’t no heaven
Or burning hell♪
613
00:32:27,749 --> 00:32:30,970
[Joe] We have a decent
three-piece band
614
00:32:31,144 --> 00:32:34,147
that we'’ve put together
with Kenny Kramme on drums
615
00:32:34,321 --> 00:32:37,063
and Eric Czar, we kind
of set sail with that.
616
00:32:37,237 --> 00:32:40,022
That was our power trio,
and it was--
617
00:32:40,196 --> 00:32:43,156
we were able to get
in a van, go out,
618
00:32:43,330 --> 00:32:45,549
couple crew guys,
maybe one guy, two guys.
619
00:32:45,723 --> 00:32:46,986
It was lean and mean.
620
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,118
We had to load our own
gear, set up own gear,
621
00:32:49,292 --> 00:32:51,164
turn down our own gear,
and sell CDs,
622
00:32:51,338 --> 00:32:54,167
and, you know,
that'’s honest work.
623
00:32:54,341 --> 00:32:57,170
[blues music playing]
624
00:32:59,781 --> 00:33:01,913
Roy would mention that
we were kind of looking
625
00:33:02,088 --> 00:33:03,785
for a change in the production,
626
00:33:03,959 --> 00:33:07,397
and we needed somebody that
worked on the big stage.
627
00:33:07,571 --> 00:33:11,010
My initial reaction was,
"Why would Kevin Shirley
want to produce me?"
628
00:33:11,184 --> 00:33:13,403
Like, Kevin does
big-time records,
629
00:33:13,577 --> 00:33:17,668
you know, like Zeppelin
and Black Crowes
and Iron Maiden.
630
00:33:17,842 --> 00:33:19,453
I was like,
"Why the hell was he..."
631
00:33:19,627 --> 00:33:23,457
My opinion was Kevin
was gonna listen
632
00:33:23,631 --> 00:33:27,200
to the work
up and to that point,
633
00:33:27,374 --> 00:33:31,334
go, "There'’s no way
that I'’m gonna do this
634
00:33:32,857 --> 00:33:36,513
under any foreseeable
circumstances, whatsoever."
635
00:33:36,687 --> 00:33:38,515
[blues music playing]
636
00:33:44,695 --> 00:33:46,697
♪ I'’m takin'’ the hit♪
637
00:33:46,871 --> 00:33:48,873
♪ Paying the price♪
638
00:33:49,048 --> 00:33:52,660
Anyway, to my surprise,
639
00:33:52,834 --> 00:33:56,011
I find myself being
visited by Mr. Shirley
640
00:33:56,185 --> 00:33:58,970
in St. Charles, Illinois.
641
00:33:59,145 --> 00:34:01,973
A random spot for him
for our first encounter,
642
00:34:02,148 --> 00:34:07,283
but we needed-- we had a show
there at Chord on Blues.
643
00:34:08,197 --> 00:34:10,243
Kevin sees the show,
644
00:34:10,417 --> 00:34:12,462
comes on the tour bus, he goes,
645
00:34:12,636 --> 00:34:15,030
basically, paraphrasing this,
646
00:34:15,204 --> 00:34:18,294
"I dig the playing,
the tone'’s good,
647
00:34:18,468 --> 00:34:21,254
songs are bad, band'’s gotta go."
648
00:34:22,124 --> 00:34:23,691
Those were the magic words,
649
00:34:23,865 --> 00:34:26,737
because I had seen
the limitations of my group.
650
00:34:26,911 --> 00:34:29,305
So he said okay,
and then we made a plan
651
00:34:29,479 --> 00:34:31,655
to go into the studio
to do the first album,
652
00:34:31,829 --> 00:34:33,918
and then I brought
Jason Bonham in.
653
00:34:34,093 --> 00:34:38,967
And then called me in 2005
654
00:34:39,141 --> 00:34:41,970
to play on You and Me
album for Joe.
655
00:34:42,144 --> 00:34:43,972
The first album
he produced for Joe.
656
00:34:44,146 --> 00:34:45,191
Carmine Rojas.
657
00:34:45,365 --> 00:34:47,280
You know, we all have history
658
00:34:47,454 --> 00:34:50,065
of all kinds of music,
similar music,
659
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,068
'’cause we all have done blues,
660
00:34:53,242 --> 00:34:55,114
we have done rock,
we have done jazz,
661
00:34:55,288 --> 00:34:56,898
we have done country.
662
00:34:57,072 --> 00:34:59,944
And Rick Melick
and all players
663
00:35:00,119 --> 00:35:03,252
at the top of their game,
at the top of their field.
664
00:35:03,426 --> 00:35:06,212
Triple-A session players,
amazing live players,
665
00:35:06,386 --> 00:35:08,127
incredible pedigrees,
all of them.
666
00:35:08,301 --> 00:35:11,391
David Bowie, Rod Stewart,
I mean, the top of the top.
667
00:35:11,565 --> 00:35:13,219
So when we got to the studio,
668
00:35:13,393 --> 00:35:16,570
he finally got to see
how it was having a band
669
00:35:16,744 --> 00:35:20,443
of incredible musicians
support him.
670
00:35:20,617 --> 00:35:23,098
And I remember thinking
671
00:35:23,272 --> 00:35:25,405
that the guy was
setting up these guitars
672
00:35:25,579 --> 00:35:29,496
and I remember going,
"Excuse me,
when does Joe get here?"
673
00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:33,804
And he looked around,
went, "I'’m Joe."
674
00:35:33,978 --> 00:35:35,458
[laughs] I was like,
675
00:35:35,632 --> 00:35:38,157
"Oh! Hi, I'’m Jason.
Nice to meet you."
676
00:35:38,331 --> 00:35:41,464
Joe really got to experience
for the first time, a producer
677
00:35:41,638 --> 00:35:44,467
that was hands on musically,
from what he told me,
678
00:35:44,641 --> 00:35:46,077
that he could relate to.
679
00:35:46,252 --> 00:35:49,255
Somebody that could also
get him to do something
680
00:35:49,429 --> 00:35:51,257
that he wasn'’t
comfortable doing.
681
00:35:51,431 --> 00:35:53,955
And, I remember
after the first record,
682
00:35:54,129 --> 00:35:55,565
after that record was made,
683
00:35:55,739 --> 00:35:58,307
Kevin told me we had
a lot of work to do,
684
00:35:58,481 --> 00:36:00,701
but I think I can,
over time,
685
00:36:00,875 --> 00:36:04,835
take Joe to a place
that would be a place
686
00:36:05,009 --> 00:36:08,404
he could have a very long-term
and successful career.
687
00:36:10,450 --> 00:36:13,061
♪ They said you
Wouldn'’t believe♪
688
00:36:14,367 --> 00:36:18,022
♪ What a paradise this was♪
689
00:36:18,197 --> 00:36:21,939
♪ Till every Adam and Eve
Tom, Dick and Harry♪
690
00:36:22,113 --> 00:36:25,465
♪ Started fighting
For what he loved♪
691
00:36:25,639 --> 00:36:29,773
♪ So, we fortified
The ramparts♪
692
00:36:29,947 --> 00:36:33,560
♪ And we built
The mighty towers♪
693
00:36:33,734 --> 00:36:37,564
♪ But it was plain to see We never were free♪
694
00:36:37,738 --> 00:36:40,393
♪ From the tyranny
Of the hour♪
695
00:36:41,611 --> 00:36:44,266
[crowd cheering]
696
00:36:45,702 --> 00:36:48,357
[Kevin]
And so, then we got asked
to do a second album.
697
00:36:48,531 --> 00:36:50,403
And that was
all good and well,
698
00:36:50,577 --> 00:36:52,927
except that I think
we got about two days
699
00:36:53,101 --> 00:36:56,278
into the first session,
and I got a call from Roy,
700
00:36:56,452 --> 00:36:59,238
who asked me to
wrap up the session,
'’cause we were gonna call it.
701
00:36:59,412 --> 00:37:01,501
It wasn'’t working for Joe.
702
00:37:01,675 --> 00:37:04,634
He'’d apparently got very upset
when I had asked him
to do a harmony vocal
703
00:37:04,808 --> 00:37:06,245
on top of a lead vocal,
704
00:37:06,419 --> 00:37:08,812
and he was very
uncomfortable with it.
705
00:37:08,986 --> 00:37:13,077
[Joe]
We started doing the second
album in Malibu, California.
706
00:37:13,252 --> 00:37:16,646
And what I loved about
the first album so much
707
00:37:16,820 --> 00:37:19,170
was it was like we played
the song and it was done.
708
00:37:19,345 --> 00:37:22,261
And then the second album,
it turned out it was like,
709
00:37:22,435 --> 00:37:25,916
because of the nature
of the material,
710
00:37:26,090 --> 00:37:27,831
it was requiring more overdubs.
711
00:37:28,005 --> 00:37:31,400
♪ You'’d better stop♪
712
00:37:31,574 --> 00:37:33,533
♪ Before♪
713
00:37:33,707 --> 00:37:37,058
♪ You tear me all apart♪
714
00:37:37,232 --> 00:37:39,843
♪ You'’d better stop♪
715
00:37:40,017 --> 00:37:41,845
♪ Before♪
716
00:37:42,019 --> 00:37:46,720
♪ You go and break my heart♪
717
00:37:47,764 --> 00:37:49,766
♪ Oh, whoa♪
718
00:37:49,940 --> 00:37:51,725
♪ You better stop♪
719
00:37:51,899 --> 00:37:53,901
It was kind of fighting me.
720
00:37:54,075 --> 00:37:55,555
And I was like, "I don'’t know."
721
00:37:55,729 --> 00:37:57,426
I really freaked out
in the sense
722
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,081
that I'’m not sure
if this is the right idea.
723
00:38:00,255 --> 00:38:02,605
So we did some acoustic tracks,
724
00:38:02,779 --> 00:38:04,346
and then we did another session.
725
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,740
On that other session,
we cut a song
726
00:38:06,914 --> 00:38:10,657
that I'’ve played literally
every show since that day.
727
00:38:10,831 --> 00:38:13,486
And it'’s one of my big,
728
00:38:13,660 --> 00:38:17,185
you know, show-stopping
songs that Kevin had heard
729
00:38:17,359 --> 00:38:19,492
when he was in South Africa.
730
00:38:19,666 --> 00:38:21,842
♪ People would tell me♪
731
00:38:22,016 --> 00:38:25,715
♪ As they pass me by♪
732
00:38:27,935 --> 00:38:30,241
♪ No matter if I live♪
733
00:38:30,416 --> 00:38:37,074
♪ No matter if I die♪
734
00:38:39,338 --> 00:38:40,817
[Kevin]
I brought the song to him,
735
00:38:40,991 --> 00:38:42,906
a song that I used
to play in a band
736
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,778
back in the '’80s
in South Africa.
737
00:38:44,952 --> 00:38:46,693
A song called "Sloe Gin,"
738
00:38:46,867 --> 00:38:51,001
which was a song that Tim Curry
and Michael Kamen had written.
739
00:38:51,175 --> 00:38:55,092
And it was one of those
desperate blues that I thought
740
00:38:56,137 --> 00:38:57,878
somebody could
cover really well.
741
00:38:58,052 --> 00:39:00,271
And Joe seemed to be
the perfect person to do it.
742
00:39:00,446 --> 00:39:03,100
It wasn'’t a traditional
12-bar blues structure,
743
00:39:03,274 --> 00:39:07,191
but it was a very down,
desperate, dark,
744
00:39:07,366 --> 00:39:11,674
slow bluesy song
with quite involved changes.
745
00:39:11,848 --> 00:39:14,808
The chorus had the lyric,
746
00:39:14,982 --> 00:39:16,897
"I'’m so fucking lonely."
747
00:39:17,071 --> 00:39:19,465
At that point in time.
748
00:39:19,639 --> 00:39:22,032
We were still trying
to get our records in Walmart,
749
00:39:22,206 --> 00:39:26,297
and we run a family show,
so the song was so strong,
750
00:39:26,472 --> 00:39:30,998
I knew where this was gonna
be a live staple forever.
751
00:39:31,172 --> 00:39:35,219
So we kind of compromised and
we did "I'’m so damn lonely."
752
00:39:35,394 --> 00:39:37,700
And that became the version.
753
00:39:37,874 --> 00:39:40,877
And that was pretty much
754
00:39:41,051 --> 00:39:45,621
the first really big song I had.
755
00:39:45,795 --> 00:39:49,277
You know, it wasn'’t a radio hit,
but it was for the fans.
756
00:39:49,451 --> 00:39:51,758
It was something
that anchored the ship.
757
00:39:51,932 --> 00:39:54,369
[blues music playing]
758
00:40:53,559 --> 00:40:57,693
After Sloe Gin,
we had toured extensively,
759
00:40:57,867 --> 00:41:00,000
comes time to make
another album.
760
00:41:00,174 --> 00:41:05,005
I'’m living in California,
and I met a girl in Georgia,
761
00:41:05,179 --> 00:41:06,615
who I love dearly,
762
00:41:06,789 --> 00:41:10,271
so much so that I decided,
763
00:41:11,185 --> 00:41:12,795
blindly,
764
00:41:12,969 --> 00:41:15,102
that I was going
to move to Georgia.
765
00:41:15,276 --> 00:41:18,845
I wrote this song because
when I was moving to Georgia,
766
00:41:19,019 --> 00:41:23,153
there was a new thing
called Google Earth
767
00:41:23,327 --> 00:41:25,460
that Kevin had on his computer
768
00:41:25,634 --> 00:41:28,332
and he goes, "Look I just looked
up the address of the house
769
00:41:28,507 --> 00:41:29,682
that you rented.
770
00:41:29,856 --> 00:41:31,814
You live in a stone quarry."
771
00:41:31,988 --> 00:41:33,424
[chuckles]
772
00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:36,863
And I wrote the song
"Story of a Quarryman"
773
00:41:37,037 --> 00:41:38,604
during that week of being
774
00:41:38,778 --> 00:41:40,954
"Dear John'’d" at
the airport in mourning,
775
00:41:41,128 --> 00:41:44,871
but, it'’ll forever be
known as the "Quarryman."
776
00:41:45,045 --> 00:41:46,307
[laughs]
777
00:41:46,481 --> 00:41:49,005
[blues rock music playing]
778
00:41:58,928 --> 00:42:02,802
♪ Gonna buy me a bucket
And a hammer and nails♪
779
00:42:05,892 --> 00:42:08,895
♪ Board up the windows
And head for the trails♪
780
00:42:11,985 --> 00:42:15,249
♪ And that'’s what I get For sticking my chin out♪
781
00:42:17,991 --> 00:42:22,169
♪ Well, a kick in the teeth And a mind full of doubt♪
782
00:42:26,260 --> 00:42:29,785
♪ I brought this on
With my own hands♪
783
00:42:32,919 --> 00:42:36,096
♪ Precious disgrace
From my own hands♪
784
00:42:39,099 --> 00:42:42,145
♪ If I could freeze time
In my own hands♪
785
00:42:42,319 --> 00:42:44,234
♪ Story of a Quarryman♪
786
00:42:49,065 --> 00:42:52,808
And I remember,
she dropped me off
at the airport
787
00:42:52,982 --> 00:42:54,680
because I needed to
come back to California
788
00:42:54,854 --> 00:42:56,420
to finish the album
which would become
789
00:42:56,595 --> 00:42:58,335
The Ballad of John Henry.
790
00:42:58,509 --> 00:43:02,035
And I remember getting
a text message on the plane
791
00:43:03,253 --> 00:43:06,735
basically confirming
what I knew was coming,
792
00:43:06,909 --> 00:43:10,043
that she was
showing me the door.
793
00:43:10,217 --> 00:43:13,786
And it was one of the few times
794
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,832
in my life that
I was truly heartbroken.
795
00:43:17,616 --> 00:43:19,835
In the sense that I went from
796
00:43:20,009 --> 00:43:23,404
the happiest guy
in the world to a hot mess.
797
00:43:23,578 --> 00:43:25,188
It was one of these stories,
798
00:43:25,362 --> 00:43:27,060
he just got swept off his feet.
799
00:43:27,234 --> 00:43:29,236
Next thing you know,
he'’s moving to Georgia.
800
00:43:29,410 --> 00:43:32,543
And before you know it,
he'’s moving back to LA.
801
00:43:32,718 --> 00:43:34,328
And it'’s like, what happened?
802
00:43:34,502 --> 00:43:36,591
It'’s like, he got it.
803
00:43:36,765 --> 00:43:39,855
And he'’s in love with a woman
who'’s in love with a woman.
804
00:43:40,029 --> 00:43:41,596
It was not pretty,
805
00:43:41,770 --> 00:43:43,511
and I shouldn'’t laugh,
but nevertheless,
806
00:43:43,685 --> 00:43:46,253
it was a hell of a story.
And he came out of that...
807
00:43:46,427 --> 00:43:49,256
I remember starting the record,
he was in love.
808
00:43:49,430 --> 00:43:52,128
Ending the record,
he was broken-hearted.
809
00:43:52,302 --> 00:43:56,437
And at the end,
this record represents,
I think, both of that.
810
00:43:56,611 --> 00:43:59,832
And I remember
the cast of characters
in the studio.
811
00:44:00,006 --> 00:44:01,572
We'’re all living
in this big house,
812
00:44:01,747 --> 00:44:05,272
and the console
and the room was downstairs.
813
00:44:05,446 --> 00:44:08,449
And it was probably
some of the most laughs
814
00:44:08,623 --> 00:44:11,670
and the most tears
at the same time.
815
00:44:11,844 --> 00:44:15,717
Because we had Anton Fig,
Blondie Chaplin,
816
00:44:15,891 --> 00:44:17,980
Carmine Rojas, Rick Melick.
817
00:44:18,154 --> 00:44:22,593
And at one point in time,
12 bottles of wine
818
00:44:23,594 --> 00:44:26,075
wasn'’t enough for the household.
819
00:44:26,249 --> 00:44:27,860
And this is in a day!
820
00:44:29,296 --> 00:44:35,041
And it was just
this inspired, heartbroken
821
00:44:36,433 --> 00:44:42,396
session that
I wish I could bottle
that series of events
822
00:44:42,570 --> 00:44:44,311
and that type of emotion
823
00:44:44,485 --> 00:44:48,576
because some of
my most emotive playing,
some of my best songs
824
00:44:48,750 --> 00:44:54,538
came from this heartbreak.
825
00:44:54,713 --> 00:44:57,585
And that record in particular
826
00:44:57,759 --> 00:45:01,371
is punctuated by
the happiest I'’ve ever been,
827
00:45:01,545 --> 00:45:05,158
and the saddest
I'’ve ever been in two halves.
828
00:45:05,332 --> 00:45:08,248
[slow blues music playing]
829
00:45:19,650 --> 00:45:24,525
♪ Shape, that I'’m in♪
830
00:45:24,699 --> 00:45:29,660
♪ Never let her down
A day in my life♪
831
00:45:31,619 --> 00:45:33,708
♪ Dreams♪
832
00:45:33,882 --> 00:45:36,015
♪ All around me♪
833
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:41,281
♪ As I see the time
Pass me by♪
834
00:45:43,283 --> 00:45:47,548
♪ Never trade you
For the world♪
835
00:45:49,289 --> 00:45:55,034
♪ Never do the things
I used to♪
836
00:45:55,208 --> 00:45:57,645
♪ I guess I'’m not
Good enough♪
837
00:45:57,819 --> 00:45:59,821
♪ This I see♪
838
00:46:01,649 --> 00:46:05,827
♪ And I'’ll remember
Happier times♪
839
00:46:08,438 --> 00:46:10,310
[Kevin]
And Joe was so distraught.
840
00:46:10,484 --> 00:46:13,182
And we'’d been working
on "Happier Times."
841
00:46:13,356 --> 00:46:16,359
And I came into the room,
and he was crying,
he was so unhappy.
842
00:46:16,533 --> 00:46:21,190
♪ Life, it hits me♪
843
00:46:21,364 --> 00:46:23,714
[Kevin]
And I remember coming up
to him and saying to him,
844
00:46:23,889 --> 00:46:25,629
"Everything that you feel,
845
00:46:25,804 --> 00:46:28,328
I want you to put
in this guitar.
846
00:46:29,720 --> 00:46:34,029
And I'’m gonna make
a long loop of the guitar solo."
847
00:46:34,203 --> 00:46:37,467
♪ Not the place I wanna be♪
848
00:46:37,641 --> 00:46:40,122
"And just play it.
Try and tap into what you have,
849
00:46:40,296 --> 00:46:41,994
and just play it over
these changes.
850
00:46:42,168 --> 00:46:44,083
Just play it and play it
and play it.
851
00:46:44,257 --> 00:46:45,736
I won'’t stop anything.
852
00:46:45,911 --> 00:46:48,000
It'’ll just go for five minutes,
and just play it."
853
00:46:48,174 --> 00:46:50,393
And, you know, to this day,
854
00:46:50,567 --> 00:46:54,484
that'’s one of his most amazing
guitar solos I think.
855
00:46:54,658 --> 00:46:56,704
And he doesn'’t
remember cutting it.
856
00:46:57,836 --> 00:46:59,838
[Joe] That also was
the record that went boom.
857
00:47:00,012 --> 00:47:03,363
It was like, "Okay,
now we have something."
858
00:47:03,537 --> 00:47:08,368
And that material, that tour,
that band, those songs,
859
00:47:08,542 --> 00:47:12,024
that was what
would have been now
860
00:47:12,198 --> 00:47:14,417
leading us up to May 4, 2009,
861
00:47:14,591 --> 00:47:16,898
when we first played
the Royal Albert Hall.
862
00:47:17,072 --> 00:47:18,813
That'’s when you arrived
on the big stage.
863
00:47:18,987 --> 00:47:21,598
That'’s when I knew I was
arriving on the big stage.
864
00:47:21,772 --> 00:47:24,123
Whether I could
stay there or not,
865
00:47:24,297 --> 00:47:26,081
that was another question.
866
00:47:26,255 --> 00:47:29,302
[crowd cheering][upbeat rock music playing]
867
00:48:09,472 --> 00:48:12,301
♪ Tell me how high♪
868
00:48:12,475 --> 00:48:16,392
♪ Cotton has to grow♪
869
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,050
♪ Tell me how high♪
870
00:48:22,224 --> 00:48:25,662
♪ Cotton has to grow♪
871
00:48:25,836 --> 00:48:27,664
[Roy] Here we are now,
872
00:48:27,838 --> 00:48:30,058
and we'’ve been touring
for four, five,
six years in Europe,
873
00:48:30,232 --> 00:48:33,932
and Joe is really starting
to generate some traction
with the audiences.
874
00:48:34,106 --> 00:48:36,847
He'’s moved from clubs
to small theaters.
875
00:48:37,022 --> 00:48:39,763
We just played Shepherd'’s
Bush Empire in London.
876
00:48:39,938 --> 00:48:42,941
And the opportunity
to book Royal Albert Hall
presents itself.
877
00:48:43,115 --> 00:48:45,160
And of course,
we were gonna take
that opportunity.
878
00:48:45,334 --> 00:48:47,554
How could we not?
But I'’m gonna be
honest with you,
879
00:48:47,728 --> 00:48:49,643
I had no idea if
we could fill that place.
880
00:48:49,817 --> 00:48:51,558
And we had to record it.
881
00:48:51,732 --> 00:48:53,342
You just can'’t--
882
00:48:53,516 --> 00:48:55,518
You can'’t just
get a gig like that.
883
00:48:55,692 --> 00:48:57,912
You never know if you'’re
ever gonna get back to it.
884
00:48:58,086 --> 00:49:00,959
But it'’s also a quarter
of a million dollars.
885
00:49:01,133 --> 00:49:03,613
At that point in time,
we were all in.
886
00:49:03,787 --> 00:49:05,920
We had just
that amount of money
887
00:49:06,094 --> 00:49:08,314
to keep our company
running for the year.
888
00:49:08,488 --> 00:49:11,143
And we went to a bank,
and we asked for a loan.
889
00:49:11,317 --> 00:49:12,840
We were declined.
890
00:49:13,014 --> 00:49:16,322
[Roy] This moment was
the biggest risk
that Joe and I
891
00:49:16,496 --> 00:49:19,586
were ever gonna
take in our career.
We literally put the house up.
892
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,502
So on one hand,
you'’re on top of the world,
893
00:49:22,676 --> 00:49:24,765
you'’re at the Royal Albert Hall
on paper,
894
00:49:24,939 --> 00:49:27,637
and life is grand,
but behind the scenes,
895
00:49:27,811 --> 00:49:29,204
we could have went
out of business.
896
00:49:29,378 --> 00:49:35,471
So we were really at
a crossroad with our company,
897
00:49:35,645 --> 00:49:37,996
and we were playing
in the big sandbox,
898
00:49:38,170 --> 00:49:41,042
but we didn'’t have
big sandbox money.
899
00:49:41,216 --> 00:49:44,045
I remember when I was four,
like really taking
interest in it,
900
00:49:44,219 --> 00:49:47,657
and my dad would sit me down
and, you know, play me records.
901
00:49:47,831 --> 00:49:49,616
He brought home, one day,
902
00:49:49,790 --> 00:49:52,619
the video cassette,
farewell Cream concert,
903
00:49:52,793 --> 00:49:54,316
recorded at the Albert Hall.
904
00:49:54,490 --> 00:49:57,972
And I remember so clearly,
905
00:49:58,146 --> 00:50:00,670
watching everything that
Eric Clapton played,
906
00:50:00,844 --> 00:50:02,846
and going,
"I don'’t know what that is.
907
00:50:03,021 --> 00:50:04,544
But that'’s really cool."
908
00:50:04,718 --> 00:50:07,938
I asked my parents for a guitar,
and I would sit in my room
909
00:50:08,113 --> 00:50:10,724
for hours and hours and hours,
my parents would
have to kick me out,
910
00:50:10,898 --> 00:50:12,421
"Go outside, play basketball,
911
00:50:12,595 --> 00:50:14,554
go ride your bike, do something,
get some exercise,"
912
00:50:14,728 --> 00:50:18,036
'’cause I would just be fixated
on trying to recreate the sounds
913
00:50:18,210 --> 00:50:20,038
and I made a decision
right then and there.
914
00:50:20,212 --> 00:50:21,865
I said, "This is
what you need to do.
915
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,303
I don'’t want a real job.
I want to be a guitar player.
916
00:50:24,477 --> 00:50:26,087
And I want to play
the Royal Albert Hall."
917
00:50:35,096 --> 00:50:37,098
[Lindsay] This has been
20 years in the making.
918
00:50:37,272 --> 00:50:39,405
And this is sort of--
not graduation,
919
00:50:39,579 --> 00:50:43,713
but accumulation of, you know,
all these years of hard work
920
00:50:43,887 --> 00:50:48,196
and, you know, day after day,
and so we'’re all very excited.
921
00:50:48,370 --> 00:50:51,939
[Len] He'’s been performing
in front of people since
he'’s been five years old.
922
00:50:52,113 --> 00:50:53,680
He has more miles on a guitar
923
00:50:53,854 --> 00:50:56,552
than most 60 year olds do,
that played all their life.
924
00:51:18,879 --> 00:51:21,011
[Joe] So here we are,
at age 32
925
00:51:21,186 --> 00:51:23,492
and 20 years in the music
business professionally,
926
00:51:23,666 --> 00:51:25,625
and I'’m about to do this.
927
00:51:25,799 --> 00:51:28,584
It is as daunting
as it is exciting.
928
00:51:28,758 --> 00:51:31,413
And it'’s as scared
as I'’ve ever been, really,
929
00:51:31,587 --> 00:51:34,982
because we can only
get one shot at it
to make it right.
930
00:51:35,156 --> 00:51:37,071
And I really wanted
to make it right.
931
00:51:40,205 --> 00:51:44,948
We have the date 2009, May 4th,
932
00:51:45,123 --> 00:51:47,777
and we had to fill it.
933
00:51:47,951 --> 00:51:51,825
So at the end,
we had the whole
house of cards on it.
934
00:51:51,999 --> 00:51:53,957
And we didn'’t know
what was gonna happen.
935
00:51:54,132 --> 00:51:56,525
[Joe]
It weighed heavily on me,
'’cause I had to be good.
936
00:51:56,699 --> 00:51:58,527
Well, you could wake up
with a head cold.
937
00:51:58,701 --> 00:52:02,357
I mean, I can list 10,000
things that could go wrong
938
00:52:02,531 --> 00:52:04,446
and one thing they can go right.
939
00:52:04,620 --> 00:52:10,060
And it was really,
really critical
940
00:52:10,235 --> 00:52:13,934
that not only we perform,
but perform well.
941
00:52:14,108 --> 00:52:15,979
[crowd cheering]
942
00:52:16,154 --> 00:52:19,157
[slow synthesizer playing]
943
00:52:48,011 --> 00:52:51,450
[no audible dialogue]
944
00:54:08,396 --> 00:54:10,050
I'’d written
Eric Clapton a letter
945
00:54:11,399 --> 00:54:15,447
that Paul Stewart
had hand delivered.
946
00:54:15,621 --> 00:54:18,145
And I gave Eric my e-mail.
947
00:54:19,538 --> 00:54:21,583
And it took a few months,
948
00:54:21,757 --> 00:54:25,718
but I got an e-mail
from a very strange
e-mail address.
949
00:54:25,892 --> 00:54:28,242
And I was like,
"I don'’t know who this is,
950
00:54:28,416 --> 00:54:30,070
but I think
I know who this is."
951
00:54:30,244 --> 00:54:31,854
And I replied, and it was Eric,
952
00:54:32,028 --> 00:54:34,117
and we'’d come up with
the idea of doing
953
00:54:34,292 --> 00:54:36,250
"Further On Up the Road."
And nobody knew about it.
954
00:54:36,424 --> 00:54:37,817
The only tell was,
955
00:54:37,991 --> 00:54:40,167
there was a small
Tweed amp on stage.
956
00:54:40,341 --> 00:54:41,995
And it was the sixth song.
957
00:54:42,169 --> 00:54:44,519
And I remember very vividly
when we were playing,
958
00:54:44,693 --> 00:54:46,434
and I stopped after
the fifth song,
959
00:54:46,608 --> 00:54:48,958
and I go,
"Ladies and gentlemen,
Eric Clapton."
960
00:54:49,132 --> 00:54:50,656
And he walks out and I go,
961
00:54:50,830 --> 00:54:52,788
"I can'’t believe
I pulled this off," right?
962
00:54:52,962 --> 00:54:54,529
I mean, this is, like,
963
00:54:54,703 --> 00:54:56,705
if it all ended that day,
964
00:54:56,879 --> 00:54:59,926
you'’d have been like
"Man, this is, like, I did it."
965
00:55:00,927 --> 00:55:03,756
Thank you
and good evening, London.
966
00:55:03,930 --> 00:55:06,019
[crowd cheering]
967
00:55:06,193 --> 00:55:08,630
Good evening,
thank you very much.
968
00:55:08,804 --> 00:55:11,329
My family'’s here,
my mom and dad are here.
969
00:55:11,503 --> 00:55:14,462
This is the greatest honor
of my life to play
this building.
970
00:55:15,985 --> 00:55:19,162
I set out 20 years ago to,
you know, play the guitar,
and I said,
971
00:55:19,337 --> 00:55:21,600
"One day, if I could ever
make it to the Albert Hall,
972
00:55:21,774 --> 00:55:23,602
that would be the coolest
thing in the world."
973
00:55:23,776 --> 00:55:25,952
And here I am,
so thank you very much!
974
00:55:26,126 --> 00:55:28,781
[cheering continues]
975
00:55:31,740 --> 00:55:36,049
And the first song
I ever learned how
to play on electric guitar
976
00:55:36,223 --> 00:55:39,574
was "Further On Up the Road,"
and we'’ve been playing that
977
00:55:39,748 --> 00:55:42,229
on our tours in celebration
of the Albert Hall.
978
00:55:42,403 --> 00:55:46,102
So, I'’m very proud to say,
the first song
979
00:55:46,276 --> 00:55:48,148
and the man is here tonight,
980
00:55:48,322 --> 00:55:51,194
Mr. Eric Clapton
is gonna come out
and play and sing with us.
981
00:55:51,369 --> 00:55:52,892
[crowd cheering]
982
00:55:53,066 --> 00:55:55,460
It was all so full circle.
983
00:55:56,939 --> 00:55:59,942
It just was a lifelong dream.
984
00:56:00,116 --> 00:56:03,511
And it really meant the world
to me that Mr. Clapton came,
985
00:56:03,685 --> 00:56:05,687
and I can never repay him.
986
00:56:39,765 --> 00:56:42,681
♪ Further on up the road♪
987
00:56:42,855 --> 00:56:46,685
♪ Someone'’s gonna hurt you Like you hurt me♪
988
00:56:46,859 --> 00:56:50,210
♪ Further on up the road♪
989
00:56:50,384 --> 00:56:53,866
♪ Someone'’s gonna hurt you Like you hurt me♪
990
00:56:55,128 --> 00:56:58,044
♪ Further on up the road♪
991
00:56:58,218 --> 00:57:01,047
♪ You just wait and see♪
992
00:57:01,221 --> 00:57:04,746
♪ Gotta reap
Just what you sow♪
993
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,446
♪ That old saying is true♪
994
00:57:08,620 --> 00:57:12,232
♪ You gotta reap
Just what you sow♪
995
00:57:12,406 --> 00:57:15,931
♪ That old saying is true♪
996
00:57:16,105 --> 00:57:19,805
♪ Just like you
Mistreat someone♪
997
00:57:19,979 --> 00:57:23,069
♪ Someone'’s gonna
Mistreat you♪
998
00:57:23,243 --> 00:57:26,812
♪ You been laughing
Pretty baby♪
999
00:57:26,986 --> 00:57:30,511
♪ Someday you'’re
Gonna be crying♪
1000
00:57:30,685 --> 00:57:33,775
[Joe]
I owe him a debt of gratitude
that I could never repay.
1001
00:57:33,949 --> 00:57:36,430
The fact that he took
time out of his busy life
1002
00:57:36,604 --> 00:57:41,261
to come and play,
solidified and gave the moment
1003
00:57:41,435 --> 00:57:43,829
the weight that
I was hoping it would get.
1004
00:57:44,003 --> 00:57:45,874
It wasn'’t just the gig
that came and went.
1005
00:57:46,048 --> 00:57:49,138
It was like the night
Eric Clapton came out with me.
1006
00:57:49,312 --> 00:57:51,880
Because when we
started this thing,
and we took that chance,
1007
00:57:52,054 --> 00:57:54,535
we had no idea what
the outcome was gonna be.
1008
00:57:54,709 --> 00:57:56,494
[Joe] You know,
a lot of people say,
1009
00:57:56,668 --> 00:57:58,887
"You don'’t really know when
your big moment'’s gonna come,
1010
00:57:59,061 --> 00:58:00,976
and a lot of times,
you don'’t even realize it."
1011
00:58:01,150 --> 00:58:03,631
I realized it very, very clearly
that that was the day.
1012
00:58:03,805 --> 00:58:06,808
[Roy] And it'’s turned out to be
a turning point in his career,
without question.
1013
00:58:06,982 --> 00:58:12,335
I mean, after that night,
I think the British press
saw that as almost like
1014
00:58:12,510 --> 00:58:14,642
a handing of the baton.
1015
00:58:14,816 --> 00:58:17,515
That was the big moment,
and then it came out on DVD.
1016
00:58:18,428 --> 00:58:20,605
And it just,
1017
00:58:20,779 --> 00:58:25,697
in America,
it exploded in the sense
where all of a sudden,
1018
00:58:25,871 --> 00:58:28,090
I was playing 500 seaters,
now I'’m playing 5,000 seaters.
1019
00:58:28,264 --> 00:58:30,702
That'’s the story.
1020
00:58:30,876 --> 00:58:34,314
But damn, I look like
I was having fun on that DVD.
1021
00:58:34,488 --> 00:58:38,013
I look back at it and go,
"Man, I was having a lot
of fun that night." I wasn'’t.
1022
00:58:38,187 --> 00:58:39,624
[crowd cheering]
1023
00:58:39,798 --> 00:58:41,669
It was pedal to the metal,
and I knew...
1024
00:58:41,843 --> 00:58:43,453
Thank you!
1025
00:58:43,628 --> 00:58:45,281
...that my whole career
was on the line.
1026
00:58:45,455 --> 00:58:47,762
[cheering continues]
1027
00:58:53,768 --> 00:58:56,031
Eric Clapton.
1028
00:59:24,233 --> 00:59:27,019
My name is Joe Bonamassa.
It'’s been an honor
to be in this building.
1029
00:59:27,193 --> 00:59:30,544
Thank you very much.[crowd cheering]
1030
00:59:49,694 --> 00:59:53,393
One of the great things about
working with Kevin Shirley
over the years,
1031
00:59:53,567 --> 00:59:56,265
and I have this genome as well,
1032
00:59:56,439 --> 00:59:58,093
is every so often,
1033
00:59:58,267 --> 01:00:02,228
Kevin feels the need,
and I second that motion,
1034
01:00:02,402 --> 01:00:06,798
feel the need
to throw a cherry bomb
in the world.
1035
01:00:06,972 --> 01:00:08,713
Like, just going,
"Well, we'’ve done this,
1036
01:00:08,887 --> 01:00:11,193
let'’s do something
completely different."
1037
01:00:12,499 --> 01:00:15,633
So, we did the Albert Hall.
We kept touring.
1038
01:00:20,463 --> 01:00:22,640
[no audible dialogue]
1039
01:00:27,514 --> 01:00:30,082
I had been having
long conversations with Joe
1040
01:00:30,256 --> 01:00:35,217
about embracing world music
and incorporating it into blues.
1041
01:00:38,090 --> 01:00:44,705
♪ It'’s been an Athens
To Athens kind of
Day and night♪
1042
01:00:44,879 --> 01:00:48,143
Kevin had found this
studio in Santorini, Greece.
1043
01:00:51,669 --> 01:00:55,934
And the idea was
to make like more of
a world-sounding album.
1044
01:00:56,108 --> 01:01:01,026
And we were gonna import
some musicians from Athens
that didn'’t speak any English
1045
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,593
and they were gonna
play on these tunes
that weren'’t written.
1046
01:01:03,768 --> 01:01:06,814
When language and
physical expression
1047
01:01:06,988 --> 01:01:09,208
sometimes are at odds,
1048
01:01:09,382 --> 01:01:11,297
and you can'’t communicate
with somebody,
1049
01:01:11,471 --> 01:01:14,169
rhythm and tonality
all speak to each other.
1050
01:01:14,343 --> 01:01:16,476
There is a universal
language of music.
1051
01:01:16,650 --> 01:01:20,436
You could go in and do
the juras and the bouzouki
and the baglamas,
1052
01:01:20,610 --> 01:01:22,438
all these Greek
instruments that we used.
1053
01:01:22,612 --> 01:01:24,919
[Joe] And it was great.
And it was really,
1054
01:01:25,093 --> 01:01:27,835
probably the most fun
we'’ve ever had making a record.
1055
01:01:28,009 --> 01:01:30,446
Hello, Japan. Greetings
from Santorini, Greece.
1056
01:01:30,620 --> 01:01:33,188
We'’re just finishing up
recording my brand-new CD.
1057
01:02:14,534 --> 01:02:17,058
♪ Don'’t cry♪
1058
01:02:17,232 --> 01:02:19,321
♪ Don'’t cry♪
1059
01:02:20,279 --> 01:02:22,542
♪ Anymore♪
1060
01:02:26,241 --> 01:02:28,853
♪ It'’s over now baby♪
1061
01:02:31,420 --> 01:02:35,511
♪ Don'’t cry no more♪
1062
01:02:35,685 --> 01:02:37,078
I was very happy
with the results,
1063
01:02:37,252 --> 01:02:40,647
even more so when
Claude Nobs heard the record,
1064
01:02:40,821 --> 01:02:43,389
and was so taken
with our approach
1065
01:02:43,563 --> 01:02:45,695
to this universal
language of music,
1066
01:02:45,870 --> 01:02:47,654
which I think he totally got.
1067
01:02:47,828 --> 01:02:51,484
And then he invited Joe to play
at the Montreux Jazz Festival
1068
01:02:51,658 --> 01:02:53,312
and bring the Greek
musicians with him.
1069
01:02:53,486 --> 01:02:55,314
The first time I heard this,
I said,
1070
01:02:55,488 --> 01:02:57,316
"One day you have to do
an acoustic set."
1071
01:02:57,490 --> 01:03:00,275
Well, thank you!I'’m so proud
that it will occur.
1072
01:03:00,449 --> 01:03:03,061
[Joe]
It restarted the conversation
about this acoustic thing
1073
01:03:03,235 --> 01:03:04,671
that we wanted to do.
1074
01:03:04,845 --> 01:03:08,370
And why don'’t we
put together a group
1075
01:03:08,544 --> 01:03:10,590
of, like, world musicians.
1076
01:03:10,764 --> 01:03:14,681
And I remember when
we worked on Dust Bowl,
1077
01:03:14,855 --> 01:03:16,291
we just kinda
huddled in the corner
1078
01:03:16,465 --> 01:03:18,119
and just went through
a couple verses,
1079
01:03:18,293 --> 01:03:21,035
and the band glued
itself together in ways--
1080
01:03:21,209 --> 01:03:22,907
I was like,
"This is gonna be great."
1081
01:03:23,081 --> 01:03:24,517
♪ Lifting me up♪
1082
01:03:26,214 --> 01:03:28,303
♪ Tearing me down♪
1083
01:03:30,349 --> 01:03:32,786
♪ All you give me
Is indecision♪
1084
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,006
♪ The classic runaround♪
1085
01:03:35,180 --> 01:03:37,878
♪ Bringing me higher♪
1086
01:03:38,052 --> 01:03:40,359
♪ Keeping me whole♪
1087
01:03:41,621 --> 01:03:44,798
♪ Now I feel like I'’m living♪
1088
01:03:44,972 --> 01:03:47,018
♪ Living in a dust bowl♪
1089
01:03:49,237 --> 01:03:51,849
To say we did
an acoustic show live
at the Vienna Opera House,
1090
01:03:52,023 --> 01:03:54,025
it just had a nice ring to it.
1091
01:03:55,026 --> 01:03:56,723
And maybe
we'’ll fall on our face.
1092
01:03:56,897 --> 01:04:00,118
You know what?
Maybe this will be
a complete and utter disaster
1093
01:04:00,292 --> 01:04:02,076
from the first note.
1094
01:04:02,250 --> 01:04:05,427
Or it could be one of
the coolest things we ever do.
1095
01:04:05,601 --> 01:04:07,734
And there'’s
no guarantees in life.
1096
01:04:07,908 --> 01:04:10,041
And they could say
a lot of things about me.
1097
01:04:10,215 --> 01:04:11,869
But they can'’t say
we don'’t take a risk,
1098
01:04:12,043 --> 01:04:14,088
and we don'’t put everything
out there on the table.
1099
01:04:14,262 --> 01:04:16,874
And it'’s gonna be
something else.
1100
01:04:17,918 --> 01:04:19,833
♪ Hard to find true within♪
1101
01:04:20,007 --> 01:04:21,400
[Kevin]
Rehearsals went really good.
1102
01:04:21,574 --> 01:04:24,098
I mean, the foundation
of this whole show
1103
01:04:24,272 --> 01:04:26,144
is Joe playing
the acoustic guitar.
1104
01:04:26,318 --> 01:04:28,842
And then we have to introduce
all these elements to it,
1105
01:04:29,016 --> 01:04:32,672
and so that becomes
more three-dimensional.
1106
01:04:32,846 --> 01:04:36,154
[man] That'’s the beautiful
thing about music
is it'’s constantly changing.
1107
01:04:36,328 --> 01:04:37,938
It'’s morphing.
1108
01:04:38,112 --> 01:04:40,027
It'’s doing things that--
It doesn'’t stay the same.
1109
01:04:40,201 --> 01:04:42,900
It keeps you fresh,
it keeps your mind sharp
1110
01:04:43,074 --> 01:04:44,423
and it keeps you young.
1111
01:04:44,597 --> 01:04:46,816
[Kevin]
It'’s about music in general.
1112
01:04:46,991 --> 01:04:48,818
It really is
the universal language.
1113
01:04:48,993 --> 01:04:51,865
Even English changes
and German changes,
1114
01:04:52,039 --> 01:04:54,955
and all the languages change,
and they develop over time.
1115
01:04:55,129 --> 01:04:57,610
Yet somehow, the music
language is the same.
1116
01:04:57,784 --> 01:04:59,699
And it goes across the ages.
1117
01:04:59,873 --> 01:05:02,789
The same melodic structure
has been around forever.
1118
01:05:02,963 --> 01:05:04,965
I mean, it'’s different
from country to country,
1119
01:05:05,139 --> 01:05:08,534
but they get incorporated
going back almost to birdsong.
1120
01:05:08,708 --> 01:05:10,710
Before music,
with the Gregorian chants
1121
01:05:10,884 --> 01:05:13,756
and all the music
through the middle ages
through classical,
1122
01:05:13,931 --> 01:05:15,671
they'’re all based on
the same thing.
1123
01:05:15,845 --> 01:05:18,979
That language never changes.
From the beginning of time,
1124
01:05:19,153 --> 01:05:23,157
there'’s 12 half steps
in the Western scale,
1125
01:05:23,331 --> 01:05:25,290
there'’s quarter notes
in Indian scales,
1126
01:05:25,464 --> 01:05:30,295
but these same 12 notes make up
the way everything gets played.
1127
01:05:30,469 --> 01:05:32,210
You know, the emotions
we get from music
1128
01:05:32,384 --> 01:05:36,823
all come from these
very basic 12 notes
1129
01:05:36,997 --> 01:05:40,827
and thumping something
to keep the tempo.
1130
01:05:41,001 --> 01:05:42,350
It'’s really...
1131
01:05:43,612 --> 01:05:44,962
It'’s really...
1132
01:05:46,180 --> 01:05:49,314
inexplicably wonderful music.
1133
01:05:51,098 --> 01:05:52,099
Amazing.
1134
01:06:30,398 --> 01:06:31,965
♪ Devil rises...♪
1135
01:06:32,139 --> 01:06:34,054
[Joe] Something I'’ve learned
traveling the world,
1136
01:06:34,228 --> 01:06:37,536
playing blues rock
to everybody from, you know,
1137
01:06:37,710 --> 01:06:42,497
people in the UK to Hong Kong
to Australia to Russia,
1138
01:06:42,671 --> 01:06:46,632
to Tel Aviv, Israel
and Mumbai, India.
1139
01:06:46,806 --> 01:06:50,157
They clap in the same spots,
it'’s uncanny.
1140
01:06:50,331 --> 01:06:53,508
And it just
blows me away every time.
1141
01:06:53,682 --> 01:06:56,903
And you go, "Wow, really,
music is a universal language.
1142
01:06:57,077 --> 01:06:59,123
It'’s in the DNA."
1143
01:06:59,297 --> 01:07:01,864
♪ See that
Brown-haired woman♪
1144
01:07:02,039 --> 01:07:04,215
♪ Coming back this way♪
1145
01:07:05,781 --> 01:07:07,044
♪ Yeah♪
1146
01:07:27,586 --> 01:07:30,110
[crowd cheering]This is one of the coolest
things I'’ve ever done.
1147
01:07:30,284 --> 01:07:34,245
And it'’s one of
the coolest things
1148
01:07:34,419 --> 01:07:36,290
that a musician can do,
1149
01:07:36,464 --> 01:07:39,772
is to take your basically
your strong point,
1150
01:07:39,946 --> 01:07:42,122
which is basically
my guitar playing
1151
01:07:42,296 --> 01:07:47,040
and reduce it down to the point
where you play a little bit,
1152
01:07:47,214 --> 01:07:48,998
but not all the time.
1153
01:07:49,173 --> 01:07:51,914
And now you have to sing.
Now you have to rely
on the songs.
1154
01:07:52,089 --> 01:07:54,308
I learned that people
will still cheer
1155
01:07:54,482 --> 01:07:56,397
if there'’s not
a four-minute guitar solo,
1156
01:07:56,571 --> 01:07:58,530
at the end of a song.
They actually like the song.
1157
01:07:58,704 --> 01:08:00,532
[acoustic guitar playing]
1158
01:08:00,706 --> 01:08:03,100
♪ Everybody knows you♪
1159
01:08:05,363 --> 01:08:06,494
From the top.
1160
01:08:06,668 --> 01:08:08,670
[acoustic guitar playing]
1161
01:08:12,370 --> 01:08:14,894
[Joe] Since Kevin came
in the picture in 2005,
1162
01:08:15,068 --> 01:08:16,678
it'’s always been song first.
1163
01:08:16,852 --> 01:08:19,290
But this is really now
the beginnings of where,
1164
01:08:19,464 --> 01:08:22,771
you know, like, "Okay,
let'’s try to get the best song."
1165
01:08:24,860 --> 01:08:27,124
Yeah, so solo,
but we need to go to--
1166
01:08:27,298 --> 01:08:29,952
It needs to go to
a different place.
1167
01:08:30,127 --> 01:08:32,651
Is that going to be fun
to solo over, at D minor?
1168
01:08:32,825 --> 01:08:34,827
Yeah, you can record that.
You can...
1169
01:08:35,001 --> 01:08:37,221
Just D minor to A minor.
1170
01:08:37,395 --> 01:08:38,700
Before we write it.
1171
01:08:38,874 --> 01:08:41,529
Before, you know,
I'’m not Mozart.
1172
01:08:42,878 --> 01:08:46,143
You know, we'’re not...I'’ve already done it.
1173
01:08:46,317 --> 01:08:50,277
We'’re not going
straight to disc here.
Hold on. Let me...
1174
01:08:50,451 --> 01:08:52,540
It'’s gotta serve the solo,
melodic solo.
1175
01:08:52,714 --> 01:08:54,368
That'’s what it'’s gotta serve.
1176
01:08:54,542 --> 01:08:57,110
[Joe] D minor is a good choice.Yeah, I thought it was nice.
1177
01:09:14,301 --> 01:09:16,782
[Joe] I can tell you, just
having a bag full of good songs
1178
01:09:16,956 --> 01:09:18,697
makes the recording
process a lot easier
1179
01:09:18,871 --> 01:09:21,352
and also makes the process
of putting together
1180
01:09:21,526 --> 01:09:23,136
a live show a lot easier.
1181
01:09:28,446 --> 01:09:30,317
You are Mozart.
You just didn'’t realize it.
1182
01:09:30,491 --> 01:09:31,753
[laughs]
1183
01:09:31,927 --> 01:09:33,102
[Kevin] Yeah.
1184
01:09:34,713 --> 01:09:38,456
[Anton] When you play music,
it'’s very difficult
to be objective
1185
01:09:38,630 --> 01:09:40,588
and subjective all the time.
1186
01:09:40,762 --> 01:09:43,200
It'’s almost like looking
at a puzzle.
1187
01:09:43,374 --> 01:09:46,028
You can look at it from above
or you can be involved
1188
01:09:46,203 --> 01:09:48,161
in the pieces going together.
1189
01:09:48,335 --> 01:09:50,946
So when you'’re playing,
sometimes you can be
too involved
1190
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,601
in the pieces
to see the big picture.
1191
01:09:53,775 --> 01:09:56,256
And that'’s where
a producer comes in,
'’cause they'’re able to.
1192
01:09:56,430 --> 01:09:59,303
♪ Different shades of blue♪
1193
01:09:59,477 --> 01:10:01,043
By the riff.Yeah.
1194
01:10:01,218 --> 01:10:03,394
I think a riff,
and I don'’t think do the retard,
1195
01:10:03,568 --> 01:10:05,439
and I think end on the tonic.
1196
01:10:05,613 --> 01:10:08,747
Don'’t leave it hanging there.[strumming]
1197
01:10:10,357 --> 01:10:12,664
Yeah.[Joe] All right.
1198
01:10:13,969 --> 01:10:16,624
Anton, I think that you want
the chorus just to be big.
1199
01:10:16,798 --> 01:10:18,583
The solo is gonna be monstrous.
1200
01:10:18,757 --> 01:10:20,498
It'’s gonna be titanic.
1201
01:10:20,672 --> 01:10:22,064
Titanoboa.
1202
01:10:30,769 --> 01:10:33,380
[song playing through speakers]
1203
01:10:54,662 --> 01:10:56,621
♪ The sun'’s been shining♪[Kevin] How good is he?
1204
01:10:56,795 --> 01:10:58,187
♪ Down on me day and night♪
1205
01:10:58,362 --> 01:11:00,233
Sounds great.
1206
01:11:00,407 --> 01:11:02,714
[Joe] Well, I mean that'’s
the nature of blues music
1207
01:11:02,888 --> 01:11:06,587
is to play spontaneous
and improvise over changes.
1208
01:11:06,761 --> 01:11:09,416
In theory, it shouldn'’t
be the same way twice, you know?
1209
01:11:09,590 --> 01:11:11,200
I'’ve never engineered a solo.
1210
01:11:11,375 --> 01:11:12,593
I never liked that.
1211
01:11:12,767 --> 01:11:14,813
I never liked doing it that way.
1212
01:11:14,987 --> 01:11:16,728
So you gotta be able
to push yourself
1213
01:11:16,902 --> 01:11:19,296
and try new things
and try things that are not
1214
01:11:19,470 --> 01:11:21,559
in your comfort zone.
1215
01:11:21,733 --> 01:11:23,082
♪ Broke your heart♪
1216
01:11:23,256 --> 01:11:25,345
[Kevin] You gotta
record the first notes,
1217
01:11:25,519 --> 01:11:28,043
when he'’s playing.
1218
01:11:28,217 --> 01:11:30,394
Bonamassa doesn'’t
like to feel safe.
He likes a challenge.
1219
01:11:30,568 --> 01:11:31,960
It'’s a rock blues album,
1220
01:11:32,134 --> 01:11:33,310
but curved differently.
1221
01:11:33,484 --> 01:11:34,789
So that'’s Bonamassa,
1222
01:11:34,963 --> 01:11:36,617
'’cause we never
do anything traditional.
1223
01:11:36,791 --> 01:11:38,750
♪ You won'’t admit♪
1224
01:11:38,924 --> 01:11:42,493
♪ But it'’s starting
To make you weep♪
1225
01:11:42,667 --> 01:11:47,802
♪ When you got
Nothing left to lose♪
1226
01:11:48,934 --> 01:11:50,675
♪ Might sound good♪
1227
01:11:50,849 --> 01:11:53,852
♪ But I'’m not sure
That'’s true♪
1228
01:11:54,940 --> 01:11:56,855
♪ You carry the pain around♪
1229
01:11:57,029 --> 01:11:59,205
♪ And that'’s what
Sees you through♪
1230
01:12:04,384 --> 01:12:07,039
♪ The different shades
Of blue♪
1231
01:12:07,213 --> 01:12:10,347
[Carmine]
Joe, he searches, he wanders.
1232
01:12:10,521 --> 01:12:12,436
You know, he tries
many different things.
1233
01:12:12,610 --> 01:12:14,002
He tries different
kinds of music.
1234
01:12:14,176 --> 01:12:15,830
He plays in different
kinds of bands.
1235
01:12:16,004 --> 01:12:19,007
He'’s always searching,
which is actually beautiful.
1236
01:12:19,181 --> 01:12:23,142
♪ Tell by the way
You hang your head♪
1237
01:12:23,316 --> 01:12:25,405
[Joe]
I can'’t keep just using
the same playbook.
1238
01:12:25,579 --> 01:12:27,364
And I have to challenge myself.
1239
01:12:27,538 --> 01:12:29,540
If it'’s your playing,
can you take it outside?
1240
01:12:29,714 --> 01:12:31,585
If you keep doing this
and you could do this,
1241
01:12:31,759 --> 01:12:33,979
if you have a different bunch
of musicians behind you,
1242
01:12:34,153 --> 01:12:36,416
how is that challenging?
How is that, you know--
1243
01:12:36,590 --> 01:12:38,244
Are you getting pushed enough?
1244
01:12:38,418 --> 01:12:40,681
The better the musicians
are that Joe plays with,
1245
01:12:40,855 --> 01:12:42,901
the better he plays.
1246
01:12:43,075 --> 01:12:46,861
♪ In my eyes Every way that'’s nice♪
1247
01:12:47,035 --> 01:12:50,822
♪ You show you'’ve got a heart That'’s made of ice♪
1248
01:12:50,996 --> 01:12:52,432
♪ And I know♪
1249
01:12:52,606 --> 01:12:56,175
♪ Fire and water♪
1250
01:12:56,349 --> 01:12:59,439
♪ Must have made you
Their daughter♪
1251
01:12:59,613 --> 01:13:02,964
♪ You'’ve got what it takes♪
1252
01:13:03,138 --> 01:13:07,752
♪ To make a poor man'’s Heart break♪
1253
01:13:09,536 --> 01:13:12,060
Kevin'’s great about
changing up the band
every once in a while.
1254
01:13:12,234 --> 01:13:14,759
Even the greatest players
in the world, if they stare
at me long enough,
1255
01:13:14,933 --> 01:13:16,674
they'’d be like,
"Ugh, he just did this."
1256
01:13:16,848 --> 01:13:18,763
♪ Well, my trying♪
1257
01:13:18,937 --> 01:13:21,287
♪ Ain'’t done no good♪
1258
01:13:21,461 --> 01:13:26,771
♪ I said my trying
Ain'’t done no good♪
1259
01:13:26,945 --> 01:13:28,163
♪ You don'’t make no effort♪
1260
01:13:28,337 --> 01:13:30,818
♪ No, not like you should♪
1261
01:13:30,992 --> 01:13:33,604
♪ Lazy♪
1262
01:13:33,778 --> 01:13:35,301
♪ You just stay in bed♪
1263
01:13:35,475 --> 01:13:39,044
♪ Lazy♪
1264
01:13:39,218 --> 01:13:40,437
♪ You just stay in bed♪
1265
01:13:41,655 --> 01:13:43,570
♪ You don'’t want no money♪
1266
01:13:43,744 --> 01:13:44,963
♪ You don'’t want no bread♪
1267
01:13:45,137 --> 01:13:47,748
♪ Ah! Come on♪
1268
01:13:51,186 --> 01:13:53,232
[music continues]
1269
01:14:01,327 --> 01:14:03,024
[Kevin] One of the things
that I really wanted
1270
01:14:03,198 --> 01:14:05,157
to have on this album was
I wanted to experiment
1271
01:14:05,331 --> 01:14:07,159
with two drummers playing.
1272
01:14:07,333 --> 01:14:10,336
And I wanted to try and make
it a real rhythmical powerhouse
1273
01:14:10,510 --> 01:14:12,381
behind Joe playing and I wanted
1274
01:14:12,556 --> 01:14:14,166
to cut everything
without keyboards.
1275
01:14:14,340 --> 01:14:16,342
So it was really about
getting some more aggression
1276
01:14:16,516 --> 01:14:19,040
out of Joe and having
him be quite vital.
1277
01:14:19,214 --> 01:14:20,694
♪ On the stone and steel♪
1278
01:14:20,868 --> 01:14:23,218
[blues music playing]
1279
01:14:23,392 --> 01:14:26,265
♪ Done my fair share of♪
1280
01:14:27,571 --> 01:14:29,137
♪ Mountain climbing♪
1281
01:14:30,356 --> 01:14:32,576
♪ Mountain climbing♪
1282
01:14:32,750 --> 01:14:36,797
♪ Whoa
Troubles I'’ve got them♪
1283
01:14:38,059 --> 01:14:39,278
♪ Mountain climbing♪
1284
01:14:40,366 --> 01:14:43,064
♪ Mountain climbing♪
1285
01:14:43,238 --> 01:14:46,764
♪ Whoa, it'’s blues
At the bottom♪
1286
01:14:46,938 --> 01:14:49,157
[Anton] There'’s perfect
metronomical time.
1287
01:14:49,331 --> 01:14:50,811
You know, you put on
a metronome.
1288
01:14:50,985 --> 01:14:54,336
And then there'’s
the human time,
1289
01:14:54,511 --> 01:14:57,035
which is like
your heartbeat,
1290
01:14:57,209 --> 01:14:58,776
you know and...
1291
01:14:58,950 --> 01:15:00,560
But when people play,
1292
01:15:00,734 --> 01:15:04,738
they tend to kind of
push certain sections
1293
01:15:04,912 --> 01:15:07,698
and pull back on certain
sections, you know?
1294
01:15:07,872 --> 01:15:11,136
I always say like time
and heartbeat equals feel.
1295
01:15:11,310 --> 01:15:13,312
[blues music playing]
1296
01:15:19,536 --> 01:15:22,277
♪ Feel like I'’ve been A prisoner♪
1297
01:15:23,583 --> 01:15:25,585
♪ Of my own design♪
1298
01:15:27,195 --> 01:15:30,242
♪ I'’ve been such
A bad listener♪
1299
01:15:31,330 --> 01:15:33,637
♪ But I hear you tonight♪
1300
01:15:33,811 --> 01:15:36,030
♪ Let'’s drive♪
1301
01:15:38,555 --> 01:15:40,382
♪ Into the night...♪
1302
01:15:40,557 --> 01:15:43,734
[Joe] You know, sometimes
we'’re self-loathing
blues rock people.
1303
01:15:43,908 --> 01:15:47,215
We question ourselves a lot.
We question if what
we'’re doing is right.
1304
01:15:47,389 --> 01:15:50,349
We question what we'’ve done
in the past, has it been right?
1305
01:15:50,523 --> 01:15:53,613
Is it right or wrong?
It'’s all obviously
worked out for me.
1306
01:15:54,875 --> 01:15:58,270
I went to him
after we came up with a song
1307
01:15:58,444 --> 01:16:00,794
that he suggested
I write a melody,
1308
01:16:00,968 --> 01:16:02,796
I came up with
the melody on the spot.
1309
01:16:02,970 --> 01:16:05,364
And we recorded it in
like two or three takes.
1310
01:16:05,538 --> 01:16:08,193
A song called
"No Place for the Lonely."
1311
01:16:08,367 --> 01:16:11,065
And we were at dinner afterwards
and we were just talking
about the day,
1312
01:16:11,239 --> 01:16:13,764
and I go, "You know what, Kevin?
You know what you and I
1313
01:16:13,938 --> 01:16:16,375
know how to do pretty well
at this point?
1314
01:16:16,549 --> 01:16:17,855
It'’s make blues rock."
1315
01:16:18,029 --> 01:16:20,814
♪ Someone to hold me♪
1316
01:16:20,988 --> 01:16:25,036
♪ Like you used to hold me♪
1317
01:16:25,210 --> 01:16:30,737
♪ But there'’s no good place For the lonely♪
1318
01:16:32,130 --> 01:16:35,742
♪ '’Cause this place
Is no good♪
1319
01:16:35,916 --> 01:16:37,875
♪ For the lonely♪
1320
01:16:38,049 --> 01:16:40,268
[Kevin]
Sometimes I give him a solo,
and I'’ll key it up,
1321
01:16:40,442 --> 01:16:41,922
and he doesn'’t even
know what key it is.
1322
01:16:42,096 --> 01:16:43,271
And so I'’ll just say,
1323
01:16:43,445 --> 01:16:44,838
"All right, here we go, Joe.
1324
01:16:45,012 --> 01:16:47,319
Here comes the solo.
It'’s coming in two bars,
1325
01:16:47,493 --> 01:16:49,495
and it'’s about that tempo.
1326
01:16:50,496 --> 01:16:51,540
And then you'’re in."
1327
01:16:51,715 --> 01:16:53,107
And so he'’ll sit with the guitar
1328
01:16:53,281 --> 01:16:55,196
and not know what'’s coming in,
1329
01:16:55,370 --> 01:16:56,894
what key is coming in.
1330
01:16:57,068 --> 01:16:59,548
And then I get...
1331
01:17:01,507 --> 01:17:05,554
him without thinking too much,
then he has to be reactive
1332
01:17:05,729 --> 01:17:08,906
to what'’s going on,
'’cause he has so much
that'’s cerebral.
1333
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:11,473
I need him to be visceral.
1334
01:17:11,648 --> 01:17:15,173
When we get those moments,
I love those moments.
They'’re amazing.
1335
01:17:15,347 --> 01:17:17,610
Like the solo on
"No Good Place for the Lonely."
1336
01:17:17,784 --> 01:17:21,048
Was voted in the top 100
guitar solos of all time.
1337
01:17:21,222 --> 01:17:25,183
And that was a one-take,
one-performance, unedited take.
1338
01:17:25,357 --> 01:17:27,228
And when I heard that,
1339
01:17:27,402 --> 01:17:29,578
I'’m like, "We don'’t have to do
that again, we'’ve got that."
1340
01:17:29,753 --> 01:17:32,494
And that shows,
like, true genius.
1341
01:17:32,669 --> 01:17:34,671
[energetic guitar solo playing]
1342
01:18:14,972 --> 01:18:16,800
[Joe] But at the end
of the day, I mean,
1343
01:18:16,974 --> 01:18:19,628
we'’re talking about music
that'’s 100 years old or more,
1344
01:18:19,803 --> 01:18:21,935
that everybody'’s
played and perfected
1345
01:18:22,109 --> 01:18:25,025
and the masters perfected it
and the British reinterpreted it
1346
01:18:25,199 --> 01:18:28,376
and reinvented it and
I reinvented or reinterpreted
1347
01:18:28,550 --> 01:18:30,465
what the British did
and so on and so on.
1348
01:18:30,639 --> 01:18:32,816
And then there'’s been
all these new kids
1349
01:18:32,990 --> 01:18:34,774
that are doing great.
1350
01:18:34,948 --> 01:18:37,081
So at the end of the day,
what are you gonna do with...
1351
01:18:38,169 --> 01:18:39,648
We can do it one, four, five.
1352
01:18:39,823 --> 01:18:42,260
You fuck it up. Make it sound...
1353
01:18:42,434 --> 01:18:44,305
Make it challenging
to the listener.
1354
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:47,308
Make it challenging to yourself
to play and come up with
1355
01:18:47,482 --> 01:18:51,182
and make it something
that can actually...
1356
01:18:53,793 --> 01:18:57,710
be listened to,
but they also know that
1357
01:18:57,884 --> 01:18:59,538
that'’s you.
1358
01:18:59,712 --> 01:19:01,409
It couldn'’t be anybody else.
1359
01:19:01,583 --> 01:19:03,585
Like, "Who'’s that?
Oh, that'’s gotta be Joe.
1360
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:05,674
He'’s at it again.
1361
01:19:05,849 --> 01:19:07,894
Messing with tradition
and all things
1362
01:19:08,068 --> 01:19:10,549
that we hold near
and dear to our hearts.
1363
01:19:10,723 --> 01:19:14,466
Let me give it a one-star
review on Amazon.com."
1364
01:19:16,685 --> 01:19:19,688
[sharply crescendoing music]
1365
01:19:35,922 --> 01:19:37,924
[rock music playing]
1366
01:19:51,590 --> 01:19:53,810
I'’ve always had
an affinity for the blues.
1367
01:19:53,984 --> 01:19:56,116
I always default to the blues.
1368
01:19:56,290 --> 01:19:57,944
I always love the blues.
1369
01:19:58,118 --> 01:20:01,556
But I'’m not a blues musician,
in the sense that
1370
01:20:01,730 --> 01:20:05,125
I'’m too musically adventurous
1371
01:20:05,299 --> 01:20:07,388
to just stick to those paths.
1372
01:20:07,562 --> 01:20:10,435
So that'’s why making records
1373
01:20:10,609 --> 01:20:13,568
with Black Country Communion
was so exciting
1374
01:20:13,742 --> 01:20:18,617
because it allowed me
to play music
1375
01:20:18,791 --> 01:20:20,924
that was in my wheelhouse
1376
01:20:21,098 --> 01:20:25,580
but didn'’t fit in
my wheelhouse as a performer.
1377
01:20:25,754 --> 01:20:29,280
It allowed me to
be unapologetically
1378
01:20:29,454 --> 01:20:30,672
a rock and roll guitar player.
1379
01:20:30,847 --> 01:20:32,849
[rock music playing]
1380
01:20:51,171 --> 01:20:53,086
♪ It'’s cold on the mountain♪
1381
01:20:54,174 --> 01:20:56,176
♪ It'’s cold in the wood♪
1382
01:20:56,350 --> 01:20:58,831
♪ My life is a fountain♪
1383
01:20:59,005 --> 01:21:02,313
After we worked in Greece,
I had met Glenn Hughes
1384
01:21:02,487 --> 01:21:05,925
and we had jammed together
at this Guitar Center thing.
1385
01:21:06,099 --> 01:21:08,797
And Glenn came out and played
and we did "Mistreated"
1386
01:21:08,972 --> 01:21:10,190
and it was fun.
1387
01:21:10,364 --> 01:21:11,583
And Glenn was great.
1388
01:21:11,757 --> 01:21:13,846
And we figured out real quickly
1389
01:21:14,020 --> 01:21:16,631
that he and I played off
each other very well.
1390
01:21:16,805 --> 01:21:18,633
And in the
audience that night,
1391
01:21:18,807 --> 01:21:21,158
was Joe'’s manager, Roy Weisman,
1392
01:21:21,985 --> 01:21:23,508
and Kevin Shirley.
1393
01:21:23,682 --> 01:21:25,727
I remember coming off
into the dressing room
1394
01:21:25,902 --> 01:21:29,079
and I heard the unmistakable
foot stomping
1395
01:21:29,253 --> 01:21:34,301
of Kevin rushing down into
the dressing room to announce,
1396
01:21:34,475 --> 01:21:36,825
"I got it!
1397
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:38,653
We need Jason Bonham,
1398
01:21:38,827 --> 01:21:40,264
and we need
1399
01:21:40,438 --> 01:21:43,354
Derek Sherinian. Okay?"
1400
01:21:43,528 --> 01:21:46,792
And we were like, "Uh, okay."
1401
01:21:46,966 --> 01:21:51,014
So, I saw Glenn and Joe
performing on stage,
and they were really good.
1402
01:21:51,188 --> 01:21:54,147
It was actually great.
I was knocked out.
I was like, "Wow!"
1403
01:21:54,321 --> 01:21:56,454
There'’s a rock thing going
on with Glenn'’s voice
1404
01:21:56,628 --> 01:21:58,195
and Glenn'’s great bass playing.
1405
01:21:58,369 --> 01:22:01,111
And then Joe is such
a talented musician.
1406
01:22:01,285 --> 01:22:03,417
He could have been playing
in a bluegrass band
1407
01:22:03,591 --> 01:22:05,289
or a soul band or whatever.
1408
01:22:05,463 --> 01:22:08,118
I mean, he'’s really got
all of these elements
1409
01:22:08,292 --> 01:22:10,424
in his guitar playing
and they'’re all in his head.
1410
01:22:10,598 --> 01:22:13,819
And I saw him
playing this rock stuff
and I was like, "Wow!
1411
01:22:13,993 --> 01:22:16,213
We have a real opportunity here
1412
01:22:16,387 --> 01:22:18,258
to open up the fan base."
1413
01:22:18,432 --> 01:22:20,434
The English radio and press,
1414
01:22:20,608 --> 01:22:23,263
I knew would eat him up
if he started playing rock.
1415
01:22:23,437 --> 01:22:26,005
[blues music playing]
1416
01:22:41,978 --> 01:22:44,502
[Joe]
And before you know it,
we did one album
1417
01:22:44,676 --> 01:22:46,504
in like four days.
1418
01:22:46,678 --> 01:22:49,550
Half the time we were waiting
for Jason to show up.
1419
01:22:49,724 --> 01:22:52,031
It'’s just my inside joke
of always being late.
1420
01:22:52,205 --> 01:22:53,728
I'’m never on time.
1421
01:22:53,902 --> 01:22:55,904
And for a drummer
that has bad time,
1422
01:22:56,079 --> 01:22:57,602
it just shouldn'’t happen.
1423
01:22:57,776 --> 01:23:00,083
Which actually kinda
gave us the opportunity
1424
01:23:00,257 --> 01:23:02,476
to get our shit together,
song-wise.
1425
01:23:02,650 --> 01:23:04,652
Like so many of these bands
that are made up,
1426
01:23:04,826 --> 01:23:07,220
they are four unique characters.
1427
01:23:07,394 --> 01:23:10,180
Glenn has got this history
of classic rock.
1428
01:23:10,354 --> 01:23:13,226
But since the '’70s,
he'’s been doing everything
from funk to metal.
1429
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:16,534
Jason is, you know, obviously
rooted in Led Zeppelin
1430
01:23:16,708 --> 01:23:18,188
and has played with them
1431
01:23:18,362 --> 01:23:20,233
and he'’s a great exponent
of the kind of style
1432
01:23:20,407 --> 01:23:21,713
of drumming of his dad.
1433
01:23:21,887 --> 01:23:23,280
And then I'’d known
Derek Sherinian
1434
01:23:23,454 --> 01:23:25,543
from my days when
I produced Dream Theater.
1435
01:23:25,717 --> 01:23:28,285
And I'’ve always been wanting
to do something with him,
1436
01:23:28,459 --> 01:23:30,243
because I love
the technicality of his playing.
1437
01:23:30,417 --> 01:23:34,639
Well, it'’s rare that you
can find a band, four people,
1438
01:23:34,813 --> 01:23:38,295
that all have that same skill
to hear the song, learn it,
1439
01:23:38,469 --> 01:23:41,776
and to not only learn
how to play the song
1440
01:23:41,950 --> 01:23:43,126
in preparation to record it,
1441
01:23:43,300 --> 01:23:46,825
but to come up with cool parts.
1442
01:23:46,999 --> 01:23:49,480
And the sounds that are
gonna be on the record.
1443
01:23:49,654 --> 01:23:54,528
Some of these songs,
they just started as little
ideas and Glenn did his thing.
1444
01:23:54,702 --> 01:23:56,617
He has this great way of words.
1445
01:23:56,791 --> 01:23:58,706
He'’s got this great swagger.
1446
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:02,188
He'’s a true rock guy.
It'’s like I pretend to be that,
1447
01:24:02,362 --> 01:24:04,234
but he is that guy for sure.
1448
01:24:04,408 --> 01:24:05,974
Bro, I don'’t think
I should do this.
1449
01:24:06,149 --> 01:24:07,889
I just said it to Kevin.
1450
01:24:08,064 --> 01:24:09,804
It'’s so like
Seven Dwarfs shit.
1451
01:24:09,978 --> 01:24:11,545
It'’s so metal.[laughing]
1452
01:24:11,719 --> 01:24:13,417
♪ Oh♪
1453
01:24:13,591 --> 01:24:16,159
It'’s so not me to do that.[Joe] Don'’t do it then.
1454
01:24:16,333 --> 01:24:19,510
I'’d rather just let
the audience figure it out.
1455
01:24:19,684 --> 01:24:23,862
[vocalizing]
1456
01:24:24,036 --> 01:24:26,560
It'’s the whitest thing
in the world.
1457
01:24:26,734 --> 01:24:29,563
We really finished
up the first record
1458
01:24:29,737 --> 01:24:32,436
and it was sort of an experiment
to see if it would work.
1459
01:24:32,610 --> 01:24:34,786
It really took me by surprise,
when we first get it
1460
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:37,223
and I saw where it charted
on the first album.
1461
01:24:37,397 --> 01:24:39,051
Yeah, I think that
the band was skeptical
1462
01:24:39,225 --> 01:24:41,445
until the record came out
and did so well.
1463
01:24:41,619 --> 01:24:44,230
Especially in England.
It was the number-one
rock record.
1464
01:24:44,404 --> 01:24:46,102
And when it did so well,
1465
01:24:46,276 --> 01:24:48,539
I think they realized that
there was a market for it
1466
01:24:48,713 --> 01:24:50,976
and was something
that was serious.
1467
01:24:51,150 --> 01:24:53,370
[Joe]
We did the second one at
a studio on Sunset Boulevard
1468
01:24:53,544 --> 01:24:55,241
called East West
and we had a great time.
1469
01:24:55,415 --> 01:24:56,895
You know, Kevin is
the fifth Beatle.
1470
01:24:57,069 --> 01:24:59,376
Yeah, he'’s the fifth
Beatle in that band,
1471
01:24:59,550 --> 01:25:01,813
because really,
he helped put it together,
1472
01:25:01,987 --> 01:25:04,207
and he really is
a member of the group.
1473
01:25:04,381 --> 01:25:06,470
[Kevin] They each have
their own solo careers.
1474
01:25:06,644 --> 01:25:09,299
And this is one of those
things where there is
1475
01:25:09,473 --> 01:25:11,039
an idea for the band,
1476
01:25:11,214 --> 01:25:13,999
it'’s like, "Let'’s be
a classic rock band."
1477
01:25:15,348 --> 01:25:18,308
If you left each of them
to make the decisions,
1478
01:25:18,482 --> 01:25:20,614
it would be a different band
and that'’s where I come in.
1479
01:25:20,788 --> 01:25:24,009
I'’m sort of, I channel all
these brilliant musicians
1480
01:25:24,183 --> 01:25:27,317
into like a toothpaste tube
with the red and the whites
1481
01:25:27,491 --> 01:25:29,928
and the blue and the green,
and put them all onto the brush,
1482
01:25:30,102 --> 01:25:33,410
and then it becomes
the toothpaste, you know?
1483
01:25:33,584 --> 01:25:35,325
To brush the teeth
of the rock world.
1484
01:25:35,499 --> 01:25:36,630
[chimes]
1485
01:25:36,804 --> 01:25:38,154
It'’s a band full of sergeants
1486
01:25:38,328 --> 01:25:39,546
but we do need
a general sometimes
1487
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:41,592
to kind of make a decision.
1488
01:25:41,766 --> 01:25:44,203
[upbeat drum solo playing]
1489
01:25:44,377 --> 01:25:48,903
We then toured
the following summer in 2011.
1490
01:25:49,077 --> 01:25:50,862
And we did nine weeks.
1491
01:25:51,036 --> 01:25:54,387
And, as I put it,
about seven weeks too many.
1492
01:25:54,561 --> 01:25:57,564
The nature of this group is it
really is great in small doses.
1493
01:25:57,738 --> 01:25:59,740
[blues music playing]
1494
01:26:01,089 --> 01:26:04,963
For me, after the second week,
it became hard work.
1495
01:26:05,137 --> 01:26:07,531
And after the third week,
1496
01:26:07,705 --> 01:26:09,750
it became really hard work.
1497
01:26:09,924 --> 01:26:11,012
After the ninth week,
1498
01:26:11,187 --> 01:26:13,058
it was like, I was ready to go.
1499
01:26:13,232 --> 01:26:15,060
There were some
great nights of music
1500
01:26:15,234 --> 01:26:17,062
and then there were some
average nights of music,
1501
01:26:17,236 --> 01:26:19,107
and it just couldn'’t...
1502
01:26:19,282 --> 01:26:22,676
A lot of factors had to line up
for it to be a great night.
1503
01:26:22,850 --> 01:26:24,896
So I returned home,
1504
01:26:25,070 --> 01:26:28,378
armed with a high dose
of burnout,
1505
01:26:28,552 --> 01:26:33,426
and a high dose of, I don'’t
wanna even look at the guitar.
1506
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:38,823
So much so, that I didn'’t play
the guitar when I got home.
1507
01:26:38,997 --> 01:26:42,566
But we had a session booked
to finish Dust Bowl.
1508
01:26:42,740 --> 01:26:46,744
And I remember sitting at
the village in Santa Monica,
1509
01:26:46,918 --> 01:26:49,964
blowing takes and blowing solos
1510
01:26:50,138 --> 01:26:54,142
that I normally could
play in my sleep.
1511
01:26:54,317 --> 01:26:55,796
It'’s just because I just...
1512
01:26:55,970 --> 01:26:57,885
It wore me down.
1513
01:26:58,059 --> 01:27:00,453
That was just the universe
telling me I was doing too much.
1514
01:27:00,627 --> 01:27:02,238
And that was
the universe telling me
1515
01:27:02,412 --> 01:27:05,241
that I shouldn'’t be
in a band, at that point.
1516
01:27:07,982 --> 01:27:09,810
You know, it was just
the universe telling me
1517
01:27:09,984 --> 01:27:11,856
a lot of things,
that you can'’t be all things
1518
01:27:12,030 --> 01:27:14,250
to all people and you
have to prioritize
1519
01:27:14,424 --> 01:27:16,817
and kinda slow it
down a little bit.
1520
01:27:16,991 --> 01:27:20,430
Downshift a gear
and be happy with that.
1521
01:27:20,604 --> 01:27:23,041
And I learned
a lot of good lessons
1522
01:27:23,215 --> 01:27:24,782
in the summer of 2011.
1523
01:27:24,956 --> 01:27:29,090
And it was very difficult
to keep perspective.
1524
01:27:29,265 --> 01:27:32,442
♪ I'’m looking for redemption♪
1525
01:27:34,095 --> 01:27:37,011
♪ Love'’s hallowed ground♪
1526
01:27:39,100 --> 01:27:42,800
♪ Yeah, I'’m praying
For forgiveness♪
1527
01:27:44,192 --> 01:27:47,283
♪ And I'’ve searched around♪
1528
01:27:48,980 --> 01:27:51,722
♪ But there'’s none
To be found♪
1529
01:28:25,756 --> 01:28:27,323
[Kevin] The history
of blues music
1530
01:28:27,497 --> 01:28:29,237
is very closely associated
1531
01:28:29,412 --> 01:28:31,979
with the "Crossroads"
and Robert Johnson
1532
01:28:32,153 --> 01:28:34,547
who was a performer
in the 1930s.
1533
01:28:35,983 --> 01:28:38,943
He used to crash all these
juke joints looking for a gig,
1534
01:28:39,117 --> 01:28:42,294
and mostly people didn'’t
think he was very good.
1535
01:28:44,383 --> 01:28:46,254
And then he disappeared
for a year or two
1536
01:28:46,429 --> 01:28:48,256
and no one knows
what happened to him.
1537
01:28:48,431 --> 01:28:51,695
And he came back and started
playing in these places
1538
01:28:51,869 --> 01:28:55,263
with a style and technique
that no one had even
seen before.
1539
01:28:59,790 --> 01:29:02,923
He apparently sold
his soul to the devil
1540
01:29:03,097 --> 01:29:07,232
at the Crossroads for a life
as an incredible musician.
1541
01:29:15,501 --> 01:29:18,199
[crowd cheering]
1542
01:29:29,820 --> 01:29:33,693
And these 29 or 30 recordings
that we have of him,
1543
01:29:33,867 --> 01:29:36,653
stand as like the benchmark
for all blues music
1544
01:29:36,827 --> 01:29:38,916
as we know it today.
1545
01:29:39,090 --> 01:29:42,572
♪ I got stones in my passway♪
1546
01:29:42,746 --> 01:29:45,531
♪ And my road seem
Dark as night♪
1547
01:29:45,705 --> 01:29:47,968
[Joe] We went down
to the Crossroads,
1548
01:29:48,142 --> 01:29:50,406
and it was kind of a pilgrimage
1549
01:29:50,580 --> 01:29:52,625
to come down to
the Mississippi Delta
1550
01:29:52,799 --> 01:29:56,412
and see where
the forefathers of the blues,
1551
01:29:56,586 --> 01:29:58,936
the music that
you love so dearly
1552
01:29:59,110 --> 01:30:01,982
and play every day and listen
to, see where it all began.
1553
01:30:02,156 --> 01:30:04,594
[music continues]
1554
01:30:07,031 --> 01:30:09,947
And you start thinking
about it in terms of this place,
1555
01:30:10,121 --> 01:30:13,820
and while we'’re here,
it'’s Robert Johnson,
1556
01:30:13,994 --> 01:30:18,085
Mississippi John Hurt,
Charlie Patton, Son House.
1557
01:30:18,259 --> 01:30:20,087
All these guys, you know,
1558
01:30:20,261 --> 01:30:24,701
they'’ve been covered and talked
about and revered and loved.
1559
01:30:24,875 --> 01:30:28,226
All this mystery
basically started,
1560
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:29,923
basically where I'’m standing.
1561
01:30:30,097 --> 01:30:32,056
[music continues]
1562
01:30:32,230 --> 01:30:36,190
♪ I got a good woman
That I'’m loving hard♪
1563
01:30:36,364 --> 01:30:38,541
♪ She don'’t mean a thing♪
1564
01:30:38,715 --> 01:30:41,413
Right now, I'’m looking
at Highway 61.
1565
01:30:41,587 --> 01:30:43,371
You know, a sign for Highway 61.
1566
01:30:43,546 --> 01:30:45,373
And it'’s like, you know,
1567
01:30:45,548 --> 01:30:47,898
I learned how
to play slide guitar
1568
01:30:48,072 --> 01:30:50,335
from listening to Johnny Winter.
1569
01:30:50,509 --> 01:30:55,383
And doing the Dylan cover
of "Highway 61 Revisited."
1570
01:30:55,558 --> 01:30:59,431
I mean, there'’s
something about this part
of the world musically
1571
01:30:59,605 --> 01:31:03,740
that'’s mystical,
and the Crossroads represent...
1572
01:31:05,785 --> 01:31:07,831
where blues began.
1573
01:31:13,184 --> 01:31:15,882
♪ Stones all in my pass♪
1574
01:31:16,796 --> 01:31:18,842
When you go down to Rosedale,
1575
01:31:19,016 --> 01:31:20,452
and you go down,
there'’s one street,
1576
01:31:20,626 --> 01:31:23,150
a strip of buildings,
and then there'’s levees,
1577
01:31:23,324 --> 01:31:26,502
and you go, "Okay, this is
where Charlie Patton wrote
about '’High Water Everywhere.'’"
1578
01:31:26,676 --> 01:31:28,982
This is where it all felt right
1579
01:31:29,156 --> 01:31:33,900
and it all book-ended
from myth to story to music,
1580
01:31:34,074 --> 01:31:37,077
but this feels authentic to me.
1581
01:31:38,818 --> 01:31:40,907
This is where they said
Robert Johnson sold his soul.
1582
01:31:41,081 --> 01:31:44,955
But, you know,
in our world, Kev,
1583
01:31:45,129 --> 01:31:47,827
this is where it all
started for Robert Johnson,
1584
01:31:48,001 --> 01:31:49,699
who paved the way for guys
1585
01:31:49,873 --> 01:31:51,178
like Muddy Waters
and Howlin'’ Wolf
1586
01:31:51,352 --> 01:31:52,876
the generation later.
1587
01:32:00,536 --> 01:32:03,364
[Kevin]
The story was that if
an aspiring blues man
1588
01:32:03,539 --> 01:32:06,454
waited by the side of
a deserted country road
1589
01:32:06,629 --> 01:32:08,587
in the dark
of a moonless night,
1590
01:32:08,761 --> 01:32:11,547
then Satan himself
might come
1591
01:32:11,721 --> 01:32:14,071
and tune his guitar,
1592
01:32:14,245 --> 01:32:17,030
sealing a pact for
the blues man'’s soul
1593
01:32:17,204 --> 01:32:21,948
and guaranteeing a lifetime
of easy money, women and fame.
1594
01:32:23,036 --> 01:32:25,517
And this is where they
said Robert Johnson
1595
01:32:25,691 --> 01:32:28,520
sold his soul to the devil,
right there at the Crossroads.
1596
01:32:28,694 --> 01:32:31,349
Wow.Is there anything
attractive about fame,
1597
01:32:31,523 --> 01:32:34,657
women and money that
you'’d sell your soul for?
1598
01:32:36,659 --> 01:32:40,097
I mean, when you put it
in those terms, it doesn'’t
seem like a bad deal.
1599
01:32:43,535 --> 01:32:45,145
And you get your guitar tuned.
1600
01:32:46,669 --> 01:32:48,932
By the way, I'’ve sold out
for much less in my career.
1601
01:32:49,106 --> 01:32:50,847
[both laugh]
1602
01:32:52,805 --> 01:32:55,416
[Kevin] Just a mile
down the road,
there'’s a farm...
1603
01:32:55,591 --> 01:32:57,027
There'’s the levee.
I can see the levee.
1604
01:32:57,201 --> 01:32:58,637
They said
the levee'’s around here...
1605
01:33:14,871 --> 01:33:17,613
And so the idea came
up to celebrate the music
1606
01:33:17,787 --> 01:33:20,050
of Muddy Waters
and Howlin'’ Wolf.
1607
01:33:20,224 --> 01:33:23,009
I was born in a little
town called Rolling Fork.
1608
01:33:23,183 --> 01:33:26,622
I was raised up in Clarksdale...
1609
01:33:28,014 --> 01:33:31,931
raised up out on
the Stovall Plantation.
1610
01:33:32,105 --> 01:33:35,979
And finally in 1943,
I moved to Chicago.
1611
01:33:38,634 --> 01:33:42,333
[Joe]
The first concert, we pay
tribute to two of the seminal
1612
01:33:42,507 --> 01:33:44,465
figures in Chicago blues.
1613
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:47,164
Two huge influences on me
1614
01:33:47,338 --> 01:33:52,343
and, really, my conduit
into the British blues,
1615
01:33:52,517 --> 01:33:54,606
which I really got
into when I was a kid.
1616
01:33:55,738 --> 01:33:58,610
The program begins
with Muddy Waters.
1617
01:34:02,266 --> 01:34:04,311
♪ I put a tiger in your tank♪
1618
01:34:04,485 --> 01:34:06,096
[Joe] One of the things
I'’ve always noticed
1619
01:34:06,270 --> 01:34:08,620
about the blues
forefathers, our heroes,
1620
01:34:08,794 --> 01:34:11,536
there'’s a dignity to their life.
1621
01:34:11,710 --> 01:34:13,625
It wasn'’t that
they were rich men.
1622
01:34:13,799 --> 01:34:16,367
They were destitute and poor,
but there was a dignity,
1623
01:34:16,541 --> 01:34:20,153
it was a quiet dignity that they
all carried themselves with.
1624
01:34:21,807 --> 01:34:24,070
♪ I put a tiger in your tank♪
1625
01:34:33,689 --> 01:34:35,386
♪ I like the way
You'’re looking♪
1626
01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:37,693
♪ Love your little car♪
1627
01:34:41,348 --> 01:34:43,046
♪ But the tires are too slow♪
1628
01:34:43,220 --> 01:34:45,962
♪ They can'’t go very far♪
1629
01:34:46,136 --> 01:34:49,182
I found with the tribute shows
in the last three years,
1630
01:34:49,356 --> 01:34:53,186
my limitations as an artist
and singer, especially,
1631
01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:58,104
have given the music
a different twist.
1632
01:34:58,278 --> 01:35:01,542
You know, I can'’t walk up
there and sing "Spoonful"
like Howlin'’ Wolf.
1633
01:35:01,717 --> 01:35:05,459
I can'’t walk up there and sing
"Spoonful" like Jack Bruce.
1634
01:35:05,633 --> 01:35:07,592
But I can sing it
like myself
1635
01:35:07,766 --> 01:35:12,423
and do it with
my utmost conviction.
1636
01:35:12,597 --> 01:35:15,426
♪ Want you to feel good So you jump and you shout♪
1637
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:18,168
[blues music playing]
1638
01:35:18,342 --> 01:35:20,387
[Anton]
Yeah, we were actually
on the bus kinda studying
1639
01:35:20,561 --> 01:35:22,389
some of the old tapes,
and it'’s just classic.
1640
01:35:22,563 --> 01:35:24,522
And they had
such style and grace,
1641
01:35:24,696 --> 01:35:27,264
the way Muddy Waters
and Howlin'’ Wolf
1642
01:35:27,438 --> 01:35:29,788
and a lot of the other guys
were playing.
1643
01:35:29,962 --> 01:35:32,922
It'’s just so beautiful
and so it'’s kinda really
1644
01:35:33,096 --> 01:35:36,273
like an honor to be
playing the music.
1645
01:35:36,447 --> 01:35:39,189
You know, the thing about
Joe is that he has been able
1646
01:35:39,363 --> 01:35:43,062
to take the blues and put
it on a stadium level.
1647
01:35:43,236 --> 01:35:45,108
So it'’s like really, like huge.
1648
01:35:45,282 --> 01:35:46,762
It'’s almost like arena blues.
1649
01:35:46,936 --> 01:35:49,242
♪ I would rather be dead♪
1650
01:35:50,678 --> 01:35:53,203
♪ Sleeping six feet
In the ground♪
1651
01:35:56,423 --> 01:35:58,425
[blues music playing]
1652
01:36:25,975 --> 01:36:29,152
♪ How many more years♪
1653
01:36:29,326 --> 01:36:31,937
[Roy] That'’s a big opportunity
for Joe and for us in general,
1654
01:36:32,111 --> 01:36:34,592
to be able to celebrate
other people'’s music,
1655
01:36:34,766 --> 01:36:39,597
do it in a way that supports
a whole category of music
known as the blues.
1656
01:36:39,771 --> 01:36:43,775
And ultimately it is
a tribute to my influences,
1657
01:36:43,949 --> 01:36:45,472
but it'’s also done under
1658
01:36:45,646 --> 01:36:47,953
the Keeping the Blues
Alive Foundation.
1659
01:36:48,127 --> 01:36:50,913
And the idea is to not
only bring the blues
1660
01:36:51,087 --> 01:36:52,392
to another generation,
1661
01:36:52,566 --> 01:36:54,307
but it also is
to raise money
1662
01:36:54,481 --> 01:36:57,615
so we can get kids some
instruments in schools.
1663
01:36:57,789 --> 01:37:00,531
And if you give
one kid the seed
1664
01:37:00,705 --> 01:37:02,272
and it grows and it comes out
1665
01:37:02,446 --> 01:37:03,969
to be the next big
blues rock star.
1666
01:37:04,143 --> 01:37:05,797
Then I go, "You know what?
I'’ve done my job."
1667
01:37:05,971 --> 01:37:09,018
I'’ve done what I set out to do
so many years ago.
1668
01:37:09,192 --> 01:37:12,630
Not only have I developed
a little career for myself,
but I'’ve also helped others
1669
01:37:12,804 --> 01:37:15,285
the same way B.B. King helped
me when I was 12 years old.
1670
01:37:15,459 --> 01:37:16,982
So that'’s kind of full circle.
1671
01:37:17,156 --> 01:37:19,637
Unfortunately,
the funding for that stuff
1672
01:37:19,811 --> 01:37:21,334
has really dried up.
1673
01:37:21,508 --> 01:37:23,336
And if you don'’t keep the blues
1674
01:37:23,510 --> 01:37:26,949
somewhat in people'’s minds
and in their hearts,
1675
01:37:27,123 --> 01:37:29,516
you know,
it could easily fade away.
1676
01:37:29,690 --> 01:37:33,259
♪ Don'’t you know We'’re riding with the kings♪
1677
01:37:33,433 --> 01:37:36,697
[Roy] And consequently from
that, the Three Kings was born.
1678
01:37:36,872 --> 01:37:38,874
And you know, this is
a really interesting
1679
01:37:39,048 --> 01:37:42,181
opportunity for Joe,
because talk about three artists
1680
01:37:42,355 --> 01:37:43,835
that really meant
something to him,
1681
01:37:44,009 --> 01:37:46,533
in that, at the soul
of who he is.
1682
01:37:46,707 --> 01:37:49,710
[blues music playing]
1683
01:37:58,110 --> 01:38:00,112
♪ When your down and out♪
1684
01:38:01,548 --> 01:38:04,421
♪ And you feel real hurt♪
1685
01:38:07,946 --> 01:38:11,558
♪ Come on over♪
1686
01:38:11,732 --> 01:38:14,735
♪ To the place where I work♪
1687
01:38:17,695 --> 01:38:20,654
♪ And all your loneliness♪
1688
01:38:22,656 --> 01:38:25,659
♪ I'’ll try to soothe♪
1689
01:38:27,531 --> 01:38:29,446
♪ I'’ll play the blues
For you♪
1690
01:38:29,620 --> 01:38:32,579
[crowd cheering]
1691
01:38:44,026 --> 01:38:46,115
♪ If you'’re down and out♪
1692
01:38:47,899 --> 01:38:51,294
♪ And you feel real hurt♪
1693
01:38:54,123 --> 01:38:57,517
♪ Come on over♪
1694
01:38:57,691 --> 01:39:00,216
Freddie, Albert and, of course,
1695
01:39:00,390 --> 01:39:02,261
a mentor of mine, Mr. B.B. King.
1696
01:39:02,435 --> 01:39:05,830
And by paying tribute to them
is not saying I'’m one of them.
1697
01:39:06,004 --> 01:39:10,661
It'’s music that I'’ve adored
and loved and worshipped,
1698
01:39:10,835 --> 01:39:12,880
and to get
the opportunity to play
1699
01:39:13,055 --> 01:39:16,754
in front of people
with these great giant bands,
1700
01:39:16,928 --> 01:39:20,192
you know, 7-piece,
8-piece, 11-piece.
1701
01:39:23,326 --> 01:39:25,981
♪ Just come on in♪
1702
01:39:29,941 --> 01:39:31,812
♪ You might run across♪
1703
01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:37,079
♪ Some of your old friends♪
1704
01:39:39,168 --> 01:39:42,127
♪ All your loneliness♪
1705
01:39:43,476 --> 01:39:46,044
And the third concert,
we paid tribute
1706
01:39:46,218 --> 01:39:47,828
to more on the guitar side,
1707
01:39:48,003 --> 01:39:49,526
Eric Clapton,
1708
01:39:49,700 --> 01:39:52,355
Jimmy Page and Jeff Beck,
1709
01:39:52,529 --> 01:39:55,662
book-ending it.
The difference being the people
1710
01:39:55,836 --> 01:39:59,971
that Jeff Beck and Eric Clapton
and Jimmy Page learned from,
1711
01:40:00,145 --> 01:40:02,017
we were tributing at the front.
1712
01:40:02,191 --> 01:40:04,323
And by the time,
three years later,
1713
01:40:04,497 --> 01:40:06,238
we got to the students.
1714
01:40:06,412 --> 01:40:08,414
And I'’m a student
of the students.
1715
01:40:08,588 --> 01:40:10,199
And that'’s one of
the biggest things
1716
01:40:10,373 --> 01:40:12,201
that'’s not lost on me
is the fact that this music
1717
01:40:12,375 --> 01:40:13,941
is passed down.
1718
01:40:14,116 --> 01:40:17,206
Almost, you know,
it takes on a different form
1719
01:40:17,380 --> 01:40:18,642
every time it'’s passed down.
1720
01:40:18,816 --> 01:40:20,861
[rock music playing]
1721
01:40:40,751 --> 01:40:42,318
And every so often,
1722
01:40:42,492 --> 01:40:44,189
you kinda have to
shuffle the deck of cards
1723
01:40:44,363 --> 01:40:46,626
and bring the blues
back into the forefront,
1724
01:40:46,800 --> 01:40:49,238
or at least attempt
to do that.
1725
01:40:49,412 --> 01:40:52,980
And that'’s what the whole
Keeping the Blues Alive
Foundation is designed to do.
1726
01:40:53,155 --> 01:40:55,461
It'’s designed to give away
instruments and money
1727
01:40:55,635 --> 01:40:59,378
and promote all things blues
in whatever, what style
1728
01:40:59,552 --> 01:41:01,902
of blues you like
or what background
or culture you'’re from.
1729
01:41:02,077 --> 01:41:05,080
I mean, it'’s like, that music
moves people for a reason.
1730
01:41:05,254 --> 01:41:07,082
It has been for 100 years.
1731
01:41:07,256 --> 01:41:11,129
And it'’s all done without
the help of computers
1732
01:41:11,303 --> 01:41:14,045
and it'’s honest,
and it'’s honest music.
1733
01:41:14,219 --> 01:41:17,222
And whether it stacks up
to what stuff'’s supposed
to sound like today,
1734
01:41:17,396 --> 01:41:18,397
I don'’t care.
1735
01:41:21,444 --> 01:41:24,882
♪ I get lost in alibis♪
1736
01:41:26,579 --> 01:41:29,234
♪ Sadness can'’t prevail♪
1737
01:41:31,367 --> 01:41:37,112
♪ Everyone knows Strong love can'’t fail♪
1738
01:41:38,809 --> 01:41:40,985
♪ Don'’t be pretending♪
1739
01:41:43,509 --> 01:41:45,816
♪ About how you feel♪
1740
01:41:48,253 --> 01:41:49,994
♪ Don'’t be pretending♪
1741
01:41:52,910 --> 01:41:55,086
♪ That your love is real♪
1742
01:41:57,262 --> 01:41:59,308
♪ Don'’t be pretending♪
1743
01:41:59,482 --> 01:42:02,311
[Roy] I sometimes wonder myself,
how hard is it to do this
day in and day out?
1744
01:42:02,485 --> 01:42:04,574
And there'’s nobody more
passionate than Joe Bonamassa.
1745
01:42:04,748 --> 01:42:07,054
when it comes to playing
an instrument as a living.
1746
01:42:07,229 --> 01:42:10,319
There'’s no question in my mind
that he loves what he does.
1747
01:42:10,493 --> 01:42:12,930
But you gotta wonder, still,
how hard is it to do that
1748
01:42:13,104 --> 01:42:14,105
day in and day out?
1749
01:42:14,279 --> 01:42:15,976
To pick up an instrument,
1750
01:42:16,151 --> 01:42:18,892
and to give yourself
to an audience in a way
1751
01:42:19,066 --> 01:42:22,244
where you'’re leaving every
bit of emotion and soul
1752
01:42:22,418 --> 01:42:24,637
that you have on the stage
when you walk off.
1753
01:42:24,811 --> 01:42:27,249
I mean, I don'’t think
most people understand
how hard that is.
1754
01:42:27,423 --> 01:42:28,815
♪ Pretending♪
1755
01:42:31,078 --> 01:42:33,080
♪ Pretending♪
1756
01:42:41,524 --> 01:42:43,743
[Joe]
The next generation
of the blues is gonna look
1757
01:42:43,917 --> 01:42:46,093
completely different
than what it does now,
1758
01:42:46,268 --> 01:42:47,791
and what it did in the '’60s,
1759
01:42:47,965 --> 01:42:50,881
and certainly what it
sounded like in the '’20s.
1760
01:42:51,055 --> 01:42:53,449
The youth of this generation
1761
01:42:53,623 --> 01:42:56,974
has access to an infinite
amount of information,
1762
01:42:57,148 --> 01:42:58,671
an infinite amount of music,
1763
01:42:58,845 --> 01:43:01,065
an infinite amount of influences
that will be mixed up
1764
01:43:01,239 --> 01:43:03,328
and it'’s gonna sound
completely different
1765
01:43:03,502 --> 01:43:07,419
than how people like myself
and my contemporaries
1766
01:43:07,593 --> 01:43:10,509
who are now in their
early 40s listen to it.
1767
01:43:15,688 --> 01:43:18,952
I can say I played slide
at the Crossroads, there you go.
There'’s a bucket list thing.
1768
01:43:19,126 --> 01:43:22,869
So I'’m very interested to
see where the influences
are gonna come from,
1769
01:43:23,043 --> 01:43:25,785
and how the blues is
going to be interpreted
1770
01:43:25,959 --> 01:43:28,875
in the next 10, 20,
30, 40, 50 years.
1771
01:43:29,049 --> 01:43:30,703
After I'’m dead, I don'’t care.
1772
01:43:30,877 --> 01:43:33,097
[interviewer laughs]
1773
01:43:59,123 --> 01:44:01,430
♪ Who draws the crowd
And plays so loud♪
1774
01:44:01,604 --> 01:44:04,259
♪ Baby, it'’s the guitar man♪
1775
01:44:05,738 --> 01:44:08,785
♪ Who'’s gonna steal the show You know, baby♪
1776
01:44:08,959 --> 01:44:11,266
♪ It'’s the guitar man♪
1777
01:44:11,440 --> 01:44:14,878
♪ He can make you love♪
1778
01:44:15,052 --> 01:44:17,881
♪ And he can make you cry♪
1779
01:44:18,055 --> 01:44:23,930
♪ He will bring you down And then he'’ll get you high♪
1780
01:44:25,410 --> 01:44:31,634
♪ Something keeps him going Miles and miles a day♪
1781
01:44:31,808 --> 01:44:36,421
♪ To find another
Place to play♪
1782
01:44:38,597 --> 01:44:40,947
♪ Night after night
Who treats you right♪
1783
01:44:41,121 --> 01:44:43,820
♪ Baby, it'’s the guitar man♪
1784
01:44:45,125 --> 01:44:46,953
♪ Who'’s on the radio♪
1785
01:44:47,127 --> 01:44:50,914
♪ You go and listen
To the guitar man♪
1786
01:44:51,088 --> 01:44:57,268
♪ Then he comes to town
And you see his face♪
1787
01:44:57,442 --> 01:45:03,492
♪ And you think you might
Like to take his place♪
1788
01:45:04,884 --> 01:45:08,497
♪ Something keeps
Him drifting...♪
1789
01:45:08,671 --> 01:45:10,803
That was in that photo.
1790
01:45:12,762 --> 01:45:14,633
It'’s what? Four?
1791
01:45:14,807 --> 01:45:16,374
Four generations.Four generations.
1792
01:45:16,548 --> 01:45:17,941
That trumpet is
from about probably
1793
01:45:18,115 --> 01:45:19,812
the mid-1920s
to early 1930s.
1794
01:45:19,986 --> 01:45:21,161
But it started
the whole--
1795
01:45:21,336 --> 01:45:22,772
Yeah, it started it.
1796
01:45:22,946 --> 01:45:24,469
The whole musical thing.
1797
01:45:24,643 --> 01:45:26,950
♪ You want to get
The meaning♪
1798
01:45:27,124 --> 01:45:30,301
♪ Out of each
And every song♪
1799
01:45:30,475 --> 01:45:34,697
♪ So you find yourself
A message and the words♪
1800
01:45:34,871 --> 01:45:36,960
♪ To call your own♪
1801
01:45:37,134 --> 01:45:39,615
♪ You take them home♪
1802
01:45:41,007 --> 01:45:45,185
But you can'’t be in
Rosedale, Mississippi without...
1803
01:45:46,317 --> 01:45:47,536
stopping here.
1804
01:45:47,710 --> 01:45:50,016
One of my favorite
Robert Johnson songs
1805
01:45:50,190 --> 01:45:53,150
is a song called
"Hot Tamales."
1806
01:45:53,324 --> 01:45:58,938
And here is most likely
the inspiration for that song.
1807
01:46:00,505 --> 01:46:04,509
And oddly enough,
it says Joe'’s.
1808
01:46:04,683 --> 01:46:08,208
So, White Front Cafe,
Joe'’s Hot Tamale place.
1809
01:46:08,383 --> 01:46:09,862
So there you go.
1810
01:46:10,036 --> 01:46:11,995
You can'’t come all
this way not say
1811
01:46:12,169 --> 01:46:13,736
a little something
about that.
1812
01:46:13,910 --> 01:46:18,871
And it'’s a Mississippi
historical preservation site,
1813
01:46:19,045 --> 01:46:20,351
as it should be.
1814
01:46:20,525 --> 01:46:22,135
See, just a gem.
1815
01:46:22,309 --> 01:46:23,833
There you go.
1816
01:46:24,007 --> 01:46:26,792
♪ Something keeps
Him moving♪
1817
01:46:26,966 --> 01:46:30,230
♪ But no one
Seems to know♪
1818
01:46:30,405 --> 01:46:35,888
♪ What it is that
Makes him go♪
1819
01:46:36,062 --> 01:46:39,283
♪ Then the lights
Begin to flicker♪
1820
01:46:39,457 --> 01:46:42,982
♪ And the sound
Is getting dim♪
1821
01:46:43,156 --> 01:46:45,855
♪ The voice begins
To falter♪
1822
01:46:46,029 --> 01:46:49,293
♪ And the crowds
Are getting thin♪
1823
01:46:49,467 --> 01:46:52,470
♪ But he never
Seems to notice♪
1824
01:46:52,644 --> 01:46:59,303
♪ He'’s just got to find
Another place to play♪
1825
01:47:02,480 --> 01:47:06,441
♪ Fade away♪
1826
01:47:08,965 --> 01:47:13,448
♪ He'’s got to play♪
1827
01:47:15,537 --> 01:47:19,889
♪ Fade away♪
1828
01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:52,878
♪ Got to play♪
1829
01:47:55,141 --> 01:47:58,536
♪ Fade away♪
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