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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:03,967 Narrator: NOSTRADAMUS, FLAMEL, DEE. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,600 WHO WERE THESE ALCHEMISTS WHO HAD SUCH A PROFOUND EFFECT 3 00:00:07,633 --> 00:00:10,167 ON KINGS, QUEENS, AND EMPERORS ALIKE? 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,067 WERE THEY SIMPLY CLEVER MAGICIANS? 5 00:00:12,100 --> 00:00:14,400 OR COULD THEY REALLY TELL THE FUTURE 6 00:00:14,433 --> 00:00:16,200 AND TURN LEAD INTO GOLD? 7 00:00:16,233 --> 00:00:19,633 AND IF THEY COULD, JUST HOW DID THEY DO IT? 8 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:25,800 Felix: THEY WERE SUPERMEN, GODS, SUPERNATURAL. 9 00:00:25,833 --> 00:00:27,267 CALL IT WHAT YOU WILL. 10 00:00:27,300 --> 00:00:30,033 THESE GUYS WERE GOING TO BECOME EXTREMELY WEALTHY FROM THIS, 11 00:00:30,067 --> 00:00:33,833 AND SO THEY KEPT IT CLOSE TO THE CHEST. 12 00:00:33,867 --> 00:00:37,267 Gough: THEY WERE THE SHAMANS OF THEIR DAY 13 00:00:37,300 --> 00:00:40,200 THAT BRIDGED OUR REALM WITH OTHERS. 14 00:00:40,233 --> 00:00:42,300 Churton: ETERNAL LIFE. 15 00:00:42,333 --> 00:00:43,733 THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR. 16 00:00:43,767 --> 00:00:45,300 THIS IS WHAT GOD HAS THAT WE DON'T... 17 00:00:45,333 --> 00:00:46,600 IMMORTALITY. 18 00:00:46,633 --> 00:00:48,633 MAN LIVES. HE DIES. 19 00:00:48,667 --> 00:00:51,700 BUT THE UNIVERSE GOES ON AND ON AND ON. 20 00:00:51,733 --> 00:00:53,600 Ogilvy: THE ALCHEMIST IS ABLE TO ESTABLISH 21 00:00:53,633 --> 00:00:56,200 A RELATIONSHIP WITH NATURE 22 00:00:56,233 --> 00:01:01,167 WHICH IS SO INTIMATE, WHICH IS SO SPECIAL, 23 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,467 THAT MIRACLES CAN HAPPEN. 24 00:01:03,500 --> 00:01:06,467 Captions by VITAC... www.vitac.com 25 00:01:06,500 --> 00:01:09,533 CAPTIONS PAID FOR BY DISCOVERY COMMUNICATIONS 26 00:01:22,333 --> 00:01:24,967 IN EVERY CENTURY OF THE LAST 1,000 YEARS, 27 00:01:25,067 --> 00:01:27,233 FIGURES HAVE EMERGED FROM HISTORY 28 00:01:27,267 --> 00:01:29,767 WHO STAND OUT BY THEIR SHEER BIZARRENESS, 29 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,767 MEN WHO SIMPLY DEFY EASY DESCRIPTION, 30 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,133 WHO ARE SEEMINGLY ABLE TO PERFORM WONDROUS FEATS OF MAGIC 31 00:01:36,167 --> 00:01:38,167 THAT DEFY SCIENCE. 32 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,100 THEY ARE THE ALCHEMISTS, 33 00:01:40,133 --> 00:01:42,800 AND IN THIS EPISODE, JOURNALIST JAMIE THEAKSTON 34 00:01:42,833 --> 00:01:46,167 SETS OUT TO UNRAVEL THEIR MYSTERIES AND SECRETS. 35 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,200 WERE THEY REALLY MEN OF SUPERNATURAL POWERS? 36 00:01:49,233 --> 00:01:52,867 OR SIMPLY EARLY PROPONENTS OF WHAT WE NOW CALL SCIENCE? 37 00:01:57,567 --> 00:02:00,567 Churton: AN ALCHEMIST GENERALLY IS ASSOCIATED 38 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,367 WITH THE SEARCH FOR THE PHILOSOPHER'S STONE. 39 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,333 BUT THE SEARCH FOR THE PHILOSOPHER'S STONE, 40 00:02:06,367 --> 00:02:08,967 WHICH IS REALLY THE IDEAL OF ALCHEMY, 41 00:02:09,067 --> 00:02:10,367 IS, IN FACT... 42 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,533 IT'S NOT EVERYTHING THAT AN ALCHEMIST WOULD BE DOING. 43 00:02:14,567 --> 00:02:17,533 AN ALCHEMIST, AT ROOT, IS A CHEMIST, 44 00:02:17,567 --> 00:02:20,066 IS SOMEBODY WHO IS DISCOVERING THROUGH PRACTICE, 45 00:02:20,067 --> 00:02:22,200 THROUGH EXPERIMENTS, THROUGH OBSERVATION 46 00:02:22,233 --> 00:02:26,600 THE HIDDEN PROPERTIES OF ORDINARY SUBSTANCES, 47 00:02:26,633 --> 00:02:30,800 FROM SALT TO METALS TO VARIOUS KINDS OF ORE, 48 00:02:30,833 --> 00:02:33,167 AND MAY BE INVOLVED IN THE MANUFACTURE 49 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,833 OF ACIDS, ALKALIS, ALUMS. 50 00:02:35,867 --> 00:02:38,267 AND, EFFECTIVELY, HE'S LOOKING FOR NEW SUBSTANCES, 51 00:02:38,300 --> 00:02:39,667 NEW COMBINATIONS, 52 00:02:39,700 --> 00:02:44,933 NEW PATHS TO UNDERSTANDING THE WAY THE CREATION IS MADE. 53 00:02:44,967 --> 00:02:46,833 Felix: WELL, THEY WERE THE PIONEERS 54 00:02:46,867 --> 00:02:50,267 OF, BASICALLY, CHEMISTRY AND MEDICINE. 55 00:02:50,300 --> 00:02:54,100 BUT THEY USED NOT ONLY NATURAL EARTH POWERS, 56 00:02:54,133 --> 00:02:56,333 BUT ALSO SUPERNATURAL FORCES. 57 00:02:56,367 --> 00:02:59,533 SO THERE WAS A BIG SPIRITUAL ELEMENT IN THE WHOLE THING. 58 00:03:06,733 --> 00:03:09,967 Narrator: BUT CAN YOU REALLY DEMONSTRATE ALCHEMY TODAY? 59 00:03:10,067 --> 00:03:13,700 PROFESSOR ANDREA SELLA AND DR. MARCOS MARTINON TORRES 60 00:03:13,733 --> 00:03:17,167 FROM UNIVERSITY COLLEGE IN LONDON BELIEVE YOU CAN 61 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:18,700 AND AGREE TO SHOW JAMIE 62 00:03:18,733 --> 00:03:21,667 THE GREATEST ALCHEMICAL PROCESS OF ALL. 63 00:03:26,767 --> 00:03:27,933 WHOA! 64 00:03:27,967 --> 00:03:31,066 [ LAUGHS ] WAS THAT DRAMATIC? 65 00:03:31,067 --> 00:03:32,067 WOW. 66 00:03:32,068 --> 00:03:34,933 WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS, MARCOS, 67 00:03:34,967 --> 00:03:38,700 IS IT POSSIBLE TO TURN BASE METALS INTO GOLD? 68 00:03:38,733 --> 00:03:41,066 THE ANSWER IS, YES, IT IS POSSIBLE. 69 00:03:41,067 --> 00:03:44,233 THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE 70 00:03:44,267 --> 00:03:45,733 TO A MEDIEVAL ALCHEMIST. 71 00:03:45,767 --> 00:03:48,333 THE BORING FACT IS THAT IT'S NOT POSSIBLE. 72 00:03:48,367 --> 00:03:51,333 TODAY WE KNOW, AND WE CAN SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT, 73 00:03:51,367 --> 00:03:52,667 THAT NO ALCHEMIST 74 00:03:52,700 --> 00:03:56,267 WOULD EVER HAVE MANAGED TO TRANSFORM LEAD INTO GOLD 75 00:03:56,300 --> 00:03:57,367 USING CHEMICAL METHODS. 76 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:58,733 WE KNOW THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE. 77 00:03:58,767 --> 00:04:00,500 TO TRANSFORM ONE ATOM INTO ANOTHER, 78 00:04:00,533 --> 00:04:01,667 WE NEED PHYSICAL METHODS. 79 00:04:01,700 --> 00:04:03,433 AND THIS WAS DONE 30 YEARS AGO. 80 00:04:03,467 --> 00:04:05,300 THEY DEMONSTRATED IT WAS POSSIBLE. 81 00:04:05,333 --> 00:04:07,633 BUT THE INVESTMENT DOESN'T PAY FOR THE RETURN, 82 00:04:07,667 --> 00:04:09,267 SO PEOPLE DON'T DO IT USUALLY. 83 00:04:09,300 --> 00:04:11,600 AND THE GOLD YOU MAKE IS RADIOACTIVE AND SO ON. 84 00:04:11,633 --> 00:04:12,733 BUT THIS IS NOT TO SAY 85 00:04:12,767 --> 00:04:14,667 THAT WHEN PEOPLE MADE A TRANSMUTATION, 86 00:04:14,700 --> 00:04:17,133 LIKE SULFUR INTO THIS RUBBERY SUBSTANCE, 87 00:04:17,167 --> 00:04:18,933 THAT THEY DID TRY TO CHEAT, 88 00:04:18,967 --> 00:04:21,133 OR THAT THEY WERE DECEIVING OR LYING. 89 00:04:21,167 --> 00:04:23,400 BECAUSE THEY COULD SEE A TRANSMUTATION. 90 00:04:23,433 --> 00:04:24,867 SO, I'M GOING TO TRY AND SHOW YOU 91 00:04:24,900 --> 00:04:26,533 A TRANSMUTATION OF COPPER INTO SILVER, 92 00:04:26,567 --> 00:04:28,200 AND THEN INTO GOLD, 93 00:04:28,233 --> 00:04:32,867 THAT WILL ILLUSTRATE HOW PEOPLE DID EFFECT TRANSMUTATIONS. 94 00:04:32,900 --> 00:04:35,467 THEY WERE TRANSFORMING A SUBSTANCE INTO ANOTHER, 95 00:04:35,500 --> 00:04:37,167 AND QUITE POSSIBLY BELIEVING 96 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,267 THAT THEY HAD ACHIEVED A TRANSMUTATION. 97 00:04:39,300 --> 00:04:41,600 SO, THEY WERE NOT NECESSARILY TRYING TO LIE. 98 00:04:41,633 --> 00:04:42,800 OKAY. 99 00:04:45,867 --> 00:04:49,333 SO, WE'RE JUST HITTING HERE 100 00:04:49,367 --> 00:04:52,933 SOME CAUSTIC SODA, SODIUM HYDROXIDE. 101 00:04:52,967 --> 00:04:56,167 AND WHAT WE ARE GOING TO MIX IN AS IT WARMS UP 102 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,500 IS A LITTLE BIT OF ZINC POWDER. 103 00:04:58,533 --> 00:05:02,100 SO, THIS IS JUST METALLIC ZINC THAT'S BEEN GROUND VERY FINE. 104 00:05:02,133 --> 00:05:04,733 AND THIS IS LIKE... THIS IS BAKING SODA, IS IT? 105 00:05:04,767 --> 00:05:06,600 YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. 106 00:05:06,633 --> 00:05:12,500 BUT AS WE MIX IT WITH A LITTLE BIT OF ZINC... 107 00:05:15,067 --> 00:05:16,400 SO, THIS IS METAL, 108 00:05:16,433 --> 00:05:19,533 BUT IT HAS BEEN GROUND VERY, VERY FINELY. 109 00:05:19,567 --> 00:05:20,667 UH-HUH. 110 00:05:20,700 --> 00:05:23,500 JUST SO THAT THE REACTION CAN TAKE PLACE FASTER. 111 00:05:23,533 --> 00:05:25,933 SO, WHAT ARE WE HOPING IS GONNA HAPPEN NOW 112 00:05:25,967 --> 00:05:27,867 TO THE ZINC IN THE CAUSTIC SODA? 113 00:05:27,900 --> 00:05:31,200 WELL, WE'RE GONNA PRODUCE A COMPLEX SODIUM ZINCATE, 114 00:05:31,233 --> 00:05:34,767 SO WE ARE GOING TO, AS IT WERE, BRING THE ZINC INTO SOLUTION. 115 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,267 CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. 116 00:05:36,300 --> 00:05:37,900 NO, ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. 117 00:05:37,933 --> 00:05:40,433 THEN WE ARE GOING TO UNDERTAKE AN ELECTROLYTIC REACTION 118 00:05:40,467 --> 00:05:41,667 WHEN WE PUT THE COPPER IN. 119 00:05:41,700 --> 00:05:43,233 WE'LL COME TO THAT IN A SECOND. 120 00:05:46,567 --> 00:05:48,267 WOULD EARLY ALCHEMISTS 121 00:05:48,300 --> 00:05:51,867 HAVE BEEN CARRYING OUT EXACTLY THIS KIND OF EXPERIMENT? 122 00:05:51,900 --> 00:05:53,066 WELL, THIS IS ONE 123 00:05:53,067 --> 00:05:56,167 THAT WOULD ONLY BE UNDERTAKEN RELATIVELY RECENTLY, 124 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:57,567 BECAUSE METALLIC ZINC 125 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,967 ONLY REALLY APPEARS IN EUROPE SYSTEMATICALLY 126 00:06:01,067 --> 00:06:03,500 FROM THE 17th, 18th CENTURY. 127 00:06:03,533 --> 00:06:04,600 BUT THIS ILLUSTRATES 128 00:06:04,633 --> 00:06:06,767 ONE OF A REPERTOIRE OF OTHER EXPERIMENTS 129 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,467 TAKING PLACE EARLIER, AS WELL, 130 00:06:08,500 --> 00:06:11,967 THAT WOULD VISUALLY TRANSFORM ONE METAL INTO ANOTHER 131 00:06:12,067 --> 00:06:14,200 AND LEAD PEOPLE INTO BELIEVING 132 00:06:14,233 --> 00:06:17,333 THAT THEY HAD INDEED SUCCEEDED WITH TRANSMUTATION. 133 00:06:17,367 --> 00:06:19,767 AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE PHILOSOPHER'S STONE, 134 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,300 THAT'S WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? 135 00:06:22,333 --> 00:06:24,533 TURNING LEAD INTO GOLD. IS THAT RIGHT? 136 00:06:24,567 --> 00:06:25,833 YEAH. GENERALLY, YES. 137 00:06:25,867 --> 00:06:27,066 THE PHILOSOPHER'S STONE 138 00:06:27,067 --> 00:06:29,367 IS THAT ULTIMATE AMBITION OF MANY ALCHEMISTS. 139 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,066 IT'S THAT WONDERFUL SUBSTANCE 140 00:06:31,067 --> 00:06:33,267 THAT WOULD HAVE THE POWER OF TRANSMUTATION, 141 00:06:33,300 --> 00:06:35,300 THAT WOULD BE ALLOWING HUMANS 142 00:06:35,333 --> 00:06:37,733 TO TRANSFORM ONE METAL INTO ANOTHER, 143 00:06:37,767 --> 00:06:40,200 ONE SUBSTANCE INTO ANOTHER, TYPICALLY A BETTER SUBSTANCE. 144 00:06:40,233 --> 00:06:42,066 SO, THE KING OF THOSE TRANSMUTATIONS 145 00:06:42,067 --> 00:06:43,067 WOULD, OF COURSE, 146 00:06:43,100 --> 00:06:44,733 BE THE TRANSFORMATION OF LEAD INTO GOLD, 147 00:06:44,767 --> 00:06:45,967 BASE METALS INTO GOLD. 148 00:06:46,067 --> 00:06:48,567 BUT OTHERS BELIEVED THAT THE HEALING POWER OF THE STONE 149 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,367 WOULD ALSO ALLOW IT TO CURE ILLNESS, 150 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:51,800 TO EXTEND LIFE, AND SO ON. 151 00:06:51,833 --> 00:06:55,067 SO THAT'S WHAT THE PHILOSOPHER'S STONE WAS ABOUT. 152 00:06:55,100 --> 00:06:57,800 Churton: THERE IS ALWAYS, IN ALCHEMICAL HISTORY, 153 00:06:57,833 --> 00:06:59,733 THE IDEA THAT THIS THING MUST BE POSSIBLE. 154 00:06:59,767 --> 00:07:04,933 IT OUGHT TO BE POSSIBLE TO TRANSMUTE BASE METALS INTO GOLD, 155 00:07:04,967 --> 00:07:09,233 BUT ACCOUNTS OF IT ACTUALLY BEING DONE ARE RARE. 156 00:07:09,267 --> 00:07:11,567 SO... AND IT IS ALSO A VERY STRANGE FACTOR. 157 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,533 A FRIEND OF MINE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ALCHEMY RECENTLY, 158 00:07:14,567 --> 00:07:16,867 AND HE WAS SAYING IN ALL THE WORKS ON ALCHEMY 159 00:07:16,900 --> 00:07:19,133 HE'D READ IN THE GREAT LIBRARIES OF EUROPE, 160 00:07:19,167 --> 00:07:22,066 HE NEVER FOUND ONE WITH ANY CHEMICAL STAINS ON THE PAGES. 161 00:07:22,067 --> 00:07:24,500 NOW, I THINK THIS IS VERY TELLING. 162 00:07:24,533 --> 00:07:25,700 I DON'T THINK 163 00:07:25,733 --> 00:07:28,867 MOST OF THE BOOKS WE HAVE ON ALCHEMY THAT WE USE... 164 00:07:28,900 --> 00:07:31,733 THAT WE'RE OFTEN USING TO TRY AND FIND OUT WHAT ALCHEMY IS 165 00:07:31,767 --> 00:07:33,633 AND WHAT THE PHILOSOPHER'S STONE WAS 166 00:07:33,667 --> 00:07:35,400 WERE ANY MORE THAN COMMENTARIES 167 00:07:35,433 --> 00:07:38,067 ON WHAT PRACTICAL PEOPLE WERE ACTUALLY DOING. 168 00:07:38,100 --> 00:07:39,633 WE GET MUCH CLOSER TO IT 169 00:07:39,667 --> 00:07:42,733 WITH THINGS LIKE ISAAC NEWTON'S NOTES ON ALCHEMY, 170 00:07:42,767 --> 00:07:44,767 WHERE HE'S ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT PROCESS. 171 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,200 SO MANY OF THE BOOKS ON ALCHEMY 172 00:07:46,233 --> 00:07:49,233 ARE ABOUT PRINCIPLE MORE THAN PRACTICE. 173 00:07:52,467 --> 00:07:55,933 SO, I'M GONNA TAKE A RELATIVELY CLEAN COPPER COIN, 174 00:07:55,967 --> 00:07:58,267 WITH APOLOGIES TO THE QUEEN... 175 00:07:58,300 --> 00:07:59,867 THOUGH SHE MIGHT BE FLATTERED 176 00:07:59,900 --> 00:08:02,300 THAT WE ARE TURNING THIS INTO A NOBLER METAL... 177 00:08:02,333 --> 00:08:09,567 AND WE ARE GOING TO JUST DIP IT INTO THIS LIQUID. 178 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:10,767 AND VERY QUICKLY, 179 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,700 YOU CAN SEE THE COLOR IS BEGINNING TO CHANGE. 180 00:08:13,733 --> 00:08:18,067 THE COPPER IS ACTING AS A CATHODE, 181 00:08:18,100 --> 00:08:20,700 SO INDIVIDUAL IONS OF ZINC ARE BEING REDUCED 182 00:08:20,733 --> 00:08:24,967 AND DEPOSITED ON THE SURFACE OF THE COIN. 183 00:08:25,067 --> 00:08:27,867 Sella: THE COLOR OF THE COPPER'S ACTUALLY FADING NOW. 184 00:08:27,900 --> 00:08:30,467 AND IT'S BECOMING KIND OF WHITER. 185 00:08:30,500 --> 00:08:32,300 VERY, VERY STRANGE PROCESS, 186 00:08:32,333 --> 00:08:35,400 THAT SIMPLY ON HEATING IN THE RIGHT SOLUTION, 187 00:08:35,433 --> 00:08:37,900 WE CAN TURN, YOU KNOW, 188 00:08:37,933 --> 00:08:40,300 THAT BRIGHT, FAMILIAR COPPER COLOR 189 00:08:40,333 --> 00:08:42,200 INTO SOMETHING ELSE. 190 00:08:42,233 --> 00:08:45,100 SO, WE'RE NOT ZINC-PLATING THE COPPER, ARE WE? 191 00:08:45,133 --> 00:08:46,667 IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING? 192 00:08:46,700 --> 00:08:49,066 WELL, IN A SENSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. 193 00:08:49,067 --> 00:08:50,200 BUT REMEMBER, 194 00:08:50,233 --> 00:08:53,767 NOWADAYS WE KNOW ABOUT THESE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS. 195 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,733 AND, OF COURSE, WE KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS. 196 00:08:56,767 --> 00:08:59,900 BUT TO SOMEONE WHO HAS NEVER SEEN THIS BEFORE, 197 00:09:00,067 --> 00:09:02,933 TO SOMEONE WHO IS DOING THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME, 198 00:09:02,967 --> 00:09:06,200 ONE OF THE KEY THINGS ABOUT THIS KIND OF EARLY SCIENCE 199 00:09:06,233 --> 00:09:09,500 IS THE FACT THAT THEY ONLY HAVE THREE THINGS TO GO ON. 200 00:09:09,533 --> 00:09:13,667 THEY CAN LOOK AT IT. THEY CAN TASTE IT OR SMELL IT. 201 00:09:13,700 --> 00:09:16,467 OR, ALTERNATIVELY, THEY CAN EITHER BASH IT 202 00:09:16,500 --> 00:09:19,600 OR TRANSFORM IT IN SOME PHYSICAL WAY. 203 00:09:19,633 --> 00:09:22,200 AND SO, REALLY, THERE ARE VERY, VERY FEW METHODS 204 00:09:22,233 --> 00:09:24,167 TO IDENTIFY WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'VE GOT. 205 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,867 IN MANY WAYS, I THINK THAT IS ONE OF THE BIG DIFFERENCES 206 00:09:26,900 --> 00:09:28,767 BETWEEN MODERN CHEMISTRY AND ALCHEMY, 207 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,733 IS THAT NOW WE HAVE SO MUCH MORE POWERFUL TOOLS. 208 00:09:31,767 --> 00:09:33,367 NOW, LOOK AT THIS. OH, WOW. 209 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,100 THAT'S AMAZING. 210 00:09:35,133 --> 00:09:37,967 SO, WHAT HAVE... SO, WE HAD A COPPER 2p COIN... 211 00:09:38,067 --> 00:09:39,167 YEP. 212 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:40,867 WHAT ARE YOU DOING NOW? COOLING IT DOWN? 213 00:09:40,900 --> 00:09:43,467 JUST COOLING IT DOWN SO WE CAN HANDLE IT. 214 00:09:43,500 --> 00:09:46,433 A COPPER 2p COIN THAT NOW LOOKS LIKE A 10p COIN. 215 00:09:46,467 --> 00:09:49,600 THAT'S RIGHT. SO, WE'RE ADDING TO ITS VALUE. 216 00:09:49,633 --> 00:09:51,600 WOW. YEAH. IS THIS TECHNICALLY LEGAL? 217 00:09:51,633 --> 00:09:53,633 ACTUALLY, IT ISN'T. 218 00:09:53,667 --> 00:09:55,333 THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION. 219 00:09:55,367 --> 00:09:57,600 I KNOW THE ANSWER. WE COULD BE ARRESTED. 220 00:09:57,633 --> 00:09:59,267 AND NOW WE CANNOT CLAIM IGNORANCE 221 00:09:59,300 --> 00:10:00,667 'CAUSE I'VE SAID IT, RIGHT? 222 00:10:00,700 --> 00:10:01,733 YES, EXACTLY. YEAH. 223 00:10:01,767 --> 00:10:03,800 [ LIQUID BUBBLING ] 224 00:10:05,067 --> 00:10:07,033 Felix: IT'S QUITE INTERESTING TO THINK 225 00:10:07,067 --> 00:10:08,867 THAT THERE WERE GUYS IN THOSE DAYS 226 00:10:08,900 --> 00:10:12,167 THAT GENUINELY DID BELIEVE THAT THEY WERE CREATING GOLD. 227 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,700 I'M SURE THEY'D HAVE BEEN VERY WEALTHY IF THEY REALLY DID. 228 00:10:15,733 --> 00:10:18,867 THERE'S A FASCINATING STORY ABOUT A GUY IN MEDIEVAL TIMES 229 00:10:18,900 --> 00:10:20,400 THAT ACTUALLY CREATED BRASS 230 00:10:20,433 --> 00:10:24,267 BY MIXING COPPER FILINGS WITH HEMIMORPHITE, 231 00:10:24,300 --> 00:10:25,967 WHICH IS ZINC ORE. 232 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,700 WHEN THE TWO CAME TOGETHER AND HE HEATED IT UP 233 00:10:28,733 --> 00:10:31,033 AND DID WHATEVER HE HAD TO DO WITH IT, 234 00:10:31,067 --> 00:10:34,967 HE CREATED THIS AMAZING GOLD METAL 235 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,767 AND GENUINELY BELIEVED THAT HE'D CREATED GOLD. 236 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,367 IT WAS ONLY WHEN HE TOOK IT TO A GOLDSMITH 237 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,000 THAT HE WAS TOLD HE HADN'T. 238 00:10:42,033 --> 00:10:44,900 BUT HE ACTUALLY CREATED BRASS. 239 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,133 Narrator: THE SILVER COIN IS TRANSFORMED 240 00:10:53,167 --> 00:10:55,300 IN THE FINAL PART OF THE EXPERIMENT, 241 00:10:55,333 --> 00:10:57,933 AND JAMIE HEADS TO THE COUNTRYSIDE 242 00:10:57,967 --> 00:11:00,066 TO MEET A MODERN-DAY PRACTICING ALCHEMIST. 243 00:11:00,067 --> 00:11:02,267 MORE FASCINATING REVELATIONS 244 00:11:02,300 --> 00:11:05,167 WHEN "FORBIDDEN HISTORY" RETURNS. 245 00:11:09,700 --> 00:11:11,567 Narrator: WERE THE FAMOUS ALCHEMISTS 246 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,133 LIKE NICHOLAS FLAMEL, JOHN DEE, AND SIR ISAAC NEWTON 247 00:11:14,167 --> 00:11:16,767 HOLDERS OF GREAT SUPERNATURAL POWERS 248 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,409 WHICH ALLOWED THEM TO PERFORM FEATS OF MAGIC 249 00:11:18,433 --> 00:11:19,867 IN THEIR LABORATORIES, 250 00:11:19,900 --> 00:11:23,300 OR WERE THEY JUST PRACTITIONERS OF AN EARLY FORM OF SCIENCE? 251 00:11:23,333 --> 00:11:26,066 JOURNALIST JAMIE THEAKSTON IS ON A MISSION 252 00:11:26,067 --> 00:11:27,833 TO ANSWER THAT VERY QUESTION, 253 00:11:27,867 --> 00:11:30,833 AND HAS TEAMED UP WITH TWO SCIENTISTS IN LONDON 254 00:11:30,867 --> 00:11:33,967 WHO HAVE SO FAR TURNED A COPPER COIN INTO SILVER, 255 00:11:34,067 --> 00:11:36,867 AND ARE NOW ATTEMPTING TO COMPLETE THE EXPERIMENT 256 00:11:36,900 --> 00:11:39,067 AND TURN IT GOLD. 257 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,167 OKAY. SO, WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS RIGHT BEFORE YOUR EYES. 258 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,767 LOOK CLOSELY. 259 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,600 IT WILL HAPPEN QUITE QUICKLY, HOPEFULLY. 260 00:11:54,633 --> 00:11:55,633 OKAY. 261 00:11:55,667 --> 00:11:57,233 YOU SEE THE SILVER COIN. UH-HUH. 262 00:11:57,267 --> 00:11:59,100 WE'RE GONNA HEAT IT... 263 00:12:04,467 --> 00:12:05,833 WHAT'S HAPPENING? OH, YEAH. 264 00:12:05,867 --> 00:12:07,700 SO, THE SILVER... ALREADY YOU CAN SEE... 265 00:12:07,733 --> 00:12:09,833 [ GASPS, LAUGHS ] 266 00:12:09,867 --> 00:12:11,967 WE'VE MADE GOLD. 267 00:12:12,067 --> 00:12:13,667 THAT'S AMAZING. 268 00:12:15,833 --> 00:12:16,867 OH, MY GOODNESS. 269 00:12:16,900 --> 00:12:18,833 MARCOS, YOU'VE JUST CREATED... 270 00:12:18,867 --> 00:12:20,467 YOU'VE TURNED COPPER INTO GOLD. 271 00:12:20,500 --> 00:12:21,967 IS THAT...? THERE YOU HAVE IT. 272 00:12:22,067 --> 00:12:25,400 THAT'S A GOLD [LAUGHS] THAT'S A GOLD 2p. 273 00:12:25,433 --> 00:12:26,733 WE'VE DONE IT. 274 00:12:26,767 --> 00:12:29,067 IT'S THE NEAREST THING YOU'RE ABLE TO... 275 00:12:29,100 --> 00:12:33,066 YOU'LL EVER BE ABLE TO GET IN THAT SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME. 276 00:12:33,067 --> 00:12:35,900 WELL, I'M VERY IMPRESSED. THAT IS AMAZING. 277 00:12:35,933 --> 00:12:38,667 THAT IS GOLD. THAT'S A GOLD COIN, RIGHT? 278 00:12:38,700 --> 00:12:41,066 Churton: WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, 279 00:12:41,067 --> 00:12:44,066 THE IDEA OF TRANSMUTATION FROM LEAD INTO GOLD, 280 00:12:44,067 --> 00:12:45,600 THOUGH IT SOUNDS FANTASTIC, 281 00:12:45,633 --> 00:12:47,967 AND TO PEOPLE WHO ARE HUNGRY FOR MONEY, 282 00:12:48,067 --> 00:12:49,633 IT SEEMS EMINENTLY DESIRABLE, 283 00:12:49,667 --> 00:12:52,967 IS NOT A DIFFICULT CONCEPT TO GRASP. 284 00:12:53,067 --> 00:12:55,267 WE, TODAY, IN CHEMISTRY, 285 00:12:55,300 --> 00:12:59,367 CONTINUALLY REFINE PRODUCTS TO PRODUCE BETTER PRODUCTS. 286 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,800 AND IF YOU PRODUCE THE BEST OIL, 287 00:13:01,833 --> 00:13:03,967 YOU'LL CERTAINLY MAKE THE MOST GOLD. 288 00:13:04,067 --> 00:13:06,767 AND IN THAT SENSE, YOU ALREADY HAVE AN ANALOGY THERE, 289 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,933 THAT IF YOU CAN IMPROVE ON A SUBSTANCE, 290 00:13:08,967 --> 00:13:10,567 IT WILL MAKE YOU MONEY. 291 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,167 BASICALLY, THERE'S A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE 292 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,700 BETWEEN SOMEONE ACTUALLY CREATING GOLD FROM A BASIC METAL 293 00:13:16,733 --> 00:13:21,500 TO SOMEONE ELSE BEING ABLE TO ELECTROPLATE SOMETHING WITH ZINC 294 00:13:21,533 --> 00:13:23,433 AND CREATING BRASS, 295 00:13:23,467 --> 00:13:25,300 WHICH, TODAY, OF COURSE, 296 00:13:25,333 --> 00:13:28,167 STRAIGHTAWAY WE KNOW IT'S NOT GOLD. 297 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:29,367 BUT 800 YEARS AGO, 298 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:34,567 TO THE NIGHT-SOIL MEN AND THE ROAD SWEEPERS 299 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,600 AND WHOEVER ELSE WAS AROUND IN MEDIEVAL LONDON 300 00:13:37,633 --> 00:13:40,367 IN THOSE DAYS, THESE GUYS WERE MAGICIANS. 301 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:44,967 THEY HAD ACTUALLY, TO THE EYE, CREATED GOLD, 302 00:13:45,067 --> 00:13:47,300 AND PEOPLE BELIEVED IT. 303 00:13:47,333 --> 00:13:48,833 AND I THINK, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, 304 00:13:48,867 --> 00:13:50,567 THAT'S WHERE THE LEGENDS HAVE GONE DOWN. 305 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,633 BUT AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, 306 00:13:52,667 --> 00:13:55,633 AS FAR AS I KNOW, NO ONE'S DONE IT YET. 307 00:13:55,667 --> 00:13:58,900 THEY'RE PROBABLY STILL TRYING, BUT NOBODY'S DONE IT. 308 00:14:01,133 --> 00:14:03,300 Narrator: ALTHOUGH MOST PEOPLE THINK 309 00:14:03,333 --> 00:14:05,066 THAT ALCHEMY IS FROM THE PAST, 310 00:14:05,067 --> 00:14:08,067 THERE ARE STILL A FEW PEOPLE WHO PRACTICE TODAY, 311 00:14:08,100 --> 00:14:10,400 AND JAMIE HAS ARRANGED TO MEET ONE OF THEM. 312 00:14:10,433 --> 00:14:11,667 HIS NAME IS GUY OGILVY, 313 00:14:11,700 --> 00:14:14,933 AND HE'S A MODERN-DAY PRACTICING ALCHEMIST. 314 00:14:14,967 --> 00:14:17,233 HE CALLS HIMSELF A POTION MAKER, 315 00:14:17,267 --> 00:14:20,800 KEEPING THE OLD TRADITIONS, FORMULAS, AND SECRETS ALIVE 316 00:14:20,833 --> 00:14:23,233 IN RURAL SOMERSET IN ENGLAND. 317 00:14:25,233 --> 00:14:28,900 IT'S BEEN SAID THAT DEE AND FLAMEL 318 00:14:28,933 --> 00:14:31,100 WERE ABLE TO TURN LEAD INTO GOLD. 319 00:14:31,133 --> 00:14:33,367 DO YOU BELIEVE THEY COULD DO THAT? 320 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,100 I MEAN, CAN YOU DO THAT? 321 00:14:35,133 --> 00:14:38,600 I CAN'T DO IT. I HAVE NEVER ACHIEVED THE STONE. 322 00:14:38,633 --> 00:14:41,300 I HAVEN'T EVEN ATTEMPTED TO ACHIEVE THE STONE. 323 00:14:41,333 --> 00:14:43,667 I MEAN, THAT IS THE UNIVERSAL TINCTURE, 324 00:14:43,700 --> 00:14:46,733 AS THEY WOULD CALL IT, THE HIGHEST MEDICINE. 325 00:14:46,767 --> 00:14:50,933 AND AS A MEDICINE, IT WAS THE ELIXIR OF YOUTH. 326 00:14:50,967 --> 00:14:52,700 I'M A POTION MAKER 327 00:14:52,733 --> 00:14:57,066 WHO APPLIES ALCHEMICAL PROCESSES AND PRINCIPLES 328 00:14:57,067 --> 00:15:03,066 IN ORDER TO MAKE MORE AND MORE RARIFIED MEDICINES. 329 00:15:03,067 --> 00:15:07,067 I LOVE THE IDEA OF ACHIEVING THE STONE. 330 00:15:07,100 --> 00:15:10,100 REALISTICALLY, LONG SHOT. 331 00:15:10,133 --> 00:15:11,333 BUT CERTAINLY, 332 00:15:11,367 --> 00:15:14,800 THIS WHOLE BUSINESS OF THE PHILOSOPHER'S STONE 333 00:15:14,833 --> 00:15:18,133 IS THE GREAT FASCINATION AND THE LURE BEHIND ALCHEMY. 334 00:15:18,167 --> 00:15:21,066 IT'S ALSO THE BIGGEST SNAG IN WESTERN ALCHEMY 335 00:15:21,067 --> 00:15:24,066 BECAUSE THE WHOLE FOCUS IS ON GOLD-MAKING, 336 00:15:24,067 --> 00:15:25,733 WHEREAS IN ANCIENT CHINA, 337 00:15:25,767 --> 00:15:27,967 THE WHOLE FOCUS WAS ON THE ELIXIR OF YOUTH. 338 00:15:28,067 --> 00:15:31,767 IT WAS ALL ABOUT ACHIEVING THE UNIVERSAL TINCTURE, 339 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,500 WHICH WOULD AFFORD YOU 340 00:15:33,533 --> 00:15:38,333 A KIND OF TRANSCENDENCE OVER MATERIAL LAWS 341 00:15:38,367 --> 00:15:40,433 AND GIVE YOU IMMORTALITY. 342 00:15:40,467 --> 00:15:42,066 AND IN INDIA, AGAIN, 343 00:15:42,067 --> 00:15:44,633 IT WAS ALL ABOUT MAKING THE HIGHEST POSSIBLE MEDICINES. 344 00:15:44,667 --> 00:15:45,900 BUT FOR THEM, 345 00:15:45,933 --> 00:15:50,267 THE PHILOSOPHER'S STONE WAS A REALITY, AS WELL. 346 00:15:50,300 --> 00:15:51,600 Narrator: JAMIE WAS KEEN 347 00:15:51,633 --> 00:15:53,900 TO SEE GUY ACTUALLY PRACTICE SOME ALCHEMY. 348 00:15:53,933 --> 00:15:55,667 SO, BUCKET IN HAND, 349 00:15:55,700 --> 00:15:58,967 GUY OFFERED TO COLLECT SOME PLANTS FROM THE GARDEN 350 00:15:59,067 --> 00:16:00,900 AND CREATE A POTION FOR HIM. 351 00:16:00,933 --> 00:16:03,800 IT BEING A TUESDAY... 352 00:16:03,833 --> 00:16:05,400 RIGHT. 353 00:16:05,433 --> 00:16:09,367 AS IN MARDI, MARS DAY, RULED BY THE PLANET MARS... 354 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:10,667 YEAH, I'M WITH YOU. 355 00:16:10,700 --> 00:16:13,200 LET'S SEE IF WE CAN FIND SOME MARTIAL HERBS. 356 00:16:13,233 --> 00:16:14,633 HERE WE GO. LOOK. PERFECT. 357 00:16:14,667 --> 00:16:15,633 NETTLES. 358 00:16:15,667 --> 00:16:16,833 STINGING NETTLES. 359 00:16:16,867 --> 00:16:17,900 RIGHT. OKAY. 360 00:16:17,933 --> 00:16:20,967 RULED BY MARS, OF COURSE. WAR-LIKE MARS. 361 00:16:21,067 --> 00:16:23,933 AND TODAY'S PERFECT 362 00:16:23,967 --> 00:16:26,933 'CAUSE IT'S A WAXING MOON 363 00:16:26,967 --> 00:16:32,333 DURING THE ZODIACAL PERIOD OF ARIES. 364 00:16:32,367 --> 00:16:36,767 AND ARIES IS RULED BY MARS, 365 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,633 SO ABSOLUTELY IDEAL TO MAKE THE BEST POSSIBLE... 366 00:16:40,667 --> 00:16:43,200 AND HOW MANY NETTLES DO WE NEED? 367 00:16:43,233 --> 00:16:44,800 AS MANY AS YOU LIKE. 368 00:16:44,833 --> 00:16:46,433 BUT WHAT WE'LL DO IS, 369 00:16:46,467 --> 00:16:48,867 I'M GONNA MAKE A NETTLE WINE, FIRST OF ALL. 370 00:16:48,900 --> 00:16:50,733 SO, GET A BUCKETFUL OF NETTLES. 371 00:16:50,767 --> 00:16:51,933 RIGHT. 372 00:16:51,967 --> 00:16:54,066 GET SOME GOOD WATER ON TOP OF THAT. 373 00:16:54,067 --> 00:16:55,200 OKAY. 374 00:16:55,233 --> 00:16:57,333 WE NEED TO GET A FERMENTATION GOING, 375 00:16:57,367 --> 00:17:00,267 SO I'M GONNA NEED TO ADD SOME SUGAR AND SOME YEAST. 376 00:17:00,300 --> 00:17:01,933 MOST PLANTS HAVE THEIR OWN YEAST ON IT 377 00:17:01,967 --> 00:17:03,567 SUFFICIENT FOR A FERMENTATION, BUT... 378 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,066 HANG ON. WE'RE GONNA MAKE SOME BOOZE? 379 00:17:05,067 --> 00:17:06,667 WE'RE GONNA MAKE SOME BOOZE. 380 00:17:06,700 --> 00:17:08,367 DOESN'T SOUND VERY ALCHEMICAL. 381 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:09,800 NETTLE WINE. 382 00:17:09,833 --> 00:17:12,133 IS THAT WHAT THE ALCHEMISTS WOULD HAVE DONE? 383 00:17:12,167 --> 00:17:15,533 SURE. I MEAN, WE NEED TO GET THE SOUL AND THE SPIRIT 384 00:17:15,567 --> 00:17:17,066 OUT OF THESE NETTLES, 385 00:17:17,067 --> 00:17:19,267 AND THE BEST WAY TO GET THE SOUL OUT 386 00:17:19,300 --> 00:17:20,567 IS TO USE THE SPIRIT. 387 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,633 BUT THE SPIRIT IS ALCOHOL, WHICH IS ONLY LATENT. 388 00:17:23,667 --> 00:17:25,233 IT'S LATENT IN THE PLANT. 389 00:17:25,267 --> 00:17:30,167 Ogilvy: FOR THOSE WHO THINK ALCHEMICALLY, 390 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,700 ONE CAN IMAGINE A SCENARIO 391 00:17:32,733 --> 00:17:35,567 WHERE THE ALCHEMIST IS ABLE TO ESTABLISH 392 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,600 A RELATIONSHIP WITH NATURE 393 00:17:37,633 --> 00:17:41,533 WHICH IS SO INTIMATE, WHICH IS SO SPECIAL 394 00:17:41,567 --> 00:17:46,467 THAT HE OR SHE HAS ACHIEVED A PRIVILEGED POSITION 395 00:17:46,500 --> 00:17:49,333 VIS-A-VIS THE VERY NATURE OF THINGS. 396 00:17:49,367 --> 00:17:53,867 AND IN THAT PRIVILEGED POSITION, MIRACLES CAN HAPPEN. 397 00:17:57,967 --> 00:18:00,800 Narrator: GUY WORKS HIS MAGIC 398 00:18:00,833 --> 00:18:03,600 AND TURNS HIS NETTLES INTO AN ALCHEMICAL POTION. 399 00:18:03,633 --> 00:18:04,900 THE MAGIC TAKES SHAPE 400 00:18:04,933 --> 00:18:07,867 IN A REAL-LIFE ALCHEMIST'S LABORATORY, 401 00:18:07,900 --> 00:18:10,967 COMING UP WHEN "FORBIDDEN HISTORY" RETURNS. 402 00:18:14,333 --> 00:18:16,343 Narrator: JOURNALIST JAMIE THEAKSTON IS ON A MISSION 403 00:18:16,367 --> 00:18:19,333 TO UNRAVEL THE SECRETS AND MYSTERIES OF THE ALCHEMISTS. 404 00:18:19,367 --> 00:18:22,767 WERE THEY THE GUARDIANS OF ANCIENT SUPERNATURAL POWERS 405 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,066 OR JUST EARLY PIONEERS IN MODERN SCIENCE? 406 00:18:26,067 --> 00:18:29,267 SO FAR, HE'S ATTEMPTED TO TURN BASE METAL INTO GOLD 407 00:18:29,300 --> 00:18:31,633 IN A SCIENCE LABORATORY IN LONDON, 408 00:18:31,667 --> 00:18:35,367 AND NOW HE'S IN RURAL ENGLAND MEETING A REAL LIVE ALCHEMIST 409 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,066 WHO'S AGREED TO LET JAMIE 410 00:18:37,067 --> 00:18:40,333 WATCH HIM MAKE A POWERFUL HERBAL POTION. 411 00:18:45,333 --> 00:18:48,600 Theakston: GUY, WHY HAS SUCH A MYSTIQUE GROWN UP 412 00:18:48,633 --> 00:18:51,100 AROUND ALCHEMY OVER THE CENTURIES? 413 00:18:51,133 --> 00:18:53,767 Ogilvy: UM... 414 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,333 I THINK THAT'S BECAUSE 415 00:18:56,367 --> 00:19:00,700 OF THE WESTERN FASCINATION WITH GOLD-MAKING. 416 00:19:00,733 --> 00:19:04,433 THERE WAS A PERIOD IN WESTERN HISTORY 417 00:19:04,467 --> 00:19:09,233 WHEN THE PHILOSOPHER'S STONE SEEMED TO BE AROUND. 418 00:19:09,267 --> 00:19:11,400 THERE WERE FABULOUS TALES 419 00:19:11,433 --> 00:19:15,333 OF PEOPLE CONFECTING GOLD OUT OF BASE METALS. 420 00:19:15,367 --> 00:19:16,967 AND, OF COURSE, EVERYONE WAS FASCINATED. 421 00:19:17,067 --> 00:19:18,943 IT'S LIKE, "WHOA, WHOA, HOW'D YOU DO THAT? HOW'D YOU DO THAT?" 422 00:19:18,967 --> 00:19:22,900 IT BECAME THE CONCERN OF KINGS. IT'S CALLED THE ROYAL ART. 423 00:19:22,933 --> 00:19:26,633 AND KINGS WERE VERY CONCERNED WITH ALCHEMY, 424 00:19:26,667 --> 00:19:30,433 OF COURSE THEY WERE, BECAUSE GOLD WAS POWER. 425 00:19:30,467 --> 00:19:33,567 AND IF THERE WAS SOMEBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD 426 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,900 WHO COULD TURN BASE METAL, CHEAP METAL, INTO GOLD, 427 00:19:37,933 --> 00:19:41,233 YOU WANTED TO HAVE THAT GUY IN YOUR CASTLE 428 00:19:41,267 --> 00:19:43,267 DOING THE DO STRAIGHTAWAY. 429 00:19:43,300 --> 00:19:45,933 AND IF HE WAS IN SOMEBODY ELSE'S NECK OF THE WOODS, 430 00:19:45,967 --> 00:19:47,933 YOU WANTED TO GO AND SEIZE THAT GUY. 431 00:19:47,967 --> 00:19:51,933 Ogilvy: OKAY. SO, LET'S JUST GET OUR NETTLES OUT, HERE. 432 00:19:56,333 --> 00:19:58,900 AND THEY DO NOT NEED TO BE REFINED. 433 00:19:58,933 --> 00:20:00,100 JUST LIKE THAT. 434 00:20:00,133 --> 00:20:04,733 ONCE THEY'RE IN THE WATER FERMENTING, 435 00:20:04,767 --> 00:20:08,267 OVER A PERIOD OF ABOUT A WEEK, 436 00:20:08,300 --> 00:20:13,300 THE WHOLE PROCESS WILL BREAK THE NETTLES RIGHT DOWN 437 00:20:13,333 --> 00:20:15,733 AND GET ALL THE GOOD STUFF OUT OF THEM, 438 00:20:15,767 --> 00:20:19,100 EXCEPT THE SALT. 439 00:20:19,133 --> 00:20:21,867 AND THE SALT IS A WHOLE PROCESS. 440 00:20:21,900 --> 00:20:25,267 IN FACT, THE LONGEST PROCESS OF ALL. 441 00:20:25,300 --> 00:20:28,767 SO, GONNA HAVE SECRET SALTS OF THE NETTLES. 442 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,967 IS THIS THE KIND OF THING 443 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,433 THAT THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN DOING IN MEDIEVAL TIMES? 444 00:20:33,467 --> 00:20:34,667 ABSOLUTELY. 445 00:20:34,700 --> 00:20:37,000 PUT SOME RAINWATER ON HERE. 446 00:20:37,033 --> 00:20:39,000 AND THIS PARTICULAR RECIPE 447 00:20:39,033 --> 00:20:43,300 DATES BACK TO THE EARLY 16th CENTURY. 448 00:20:43,333 --> 00:20:45,533 AND SO, WHAT'S THE KIND OF PLAN? 449 00:20:45,567 --> 00:20:46,967 THIS, THEN, FERMENTS. 450 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,033 YEAH. I'M GONNA ADD SOME YEAST. 451 00:20:49,067 --> 00:20:50,867 LET'S GET SOME YEAST HERE. 452 00:20:50,900 --> 00:20:52,367 AND SOME SUGAR, 453 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:57,300 BECAUSE THAT'S HOW YOU GET YOUR ALCOHOL OUT OF THE PLANT. 454 00:20:57,333 --> 00:21:00,333 FROM THE ALCHEMIST'S POINT OF VIEW, 455 00:21:00,367 --> 00:21:02,833 WE'RE NOT, AS IT WERE, MAKING ALCOHOL. 456 00:21:02,867 --> 00:21:05,667 WE'RE DRAWING THE ALCOHOL OUT OF THE PLANTS. 457 00:21:05,700 --> 00:21:07,100 IT'S LATENT IN THE PLANT. 458 00:21:07,133 --> 00:21:08,733 ANYONE COULD DO THIS AT HOME. 459 00:21:08,767 --> 00:21:09,867 YEAH. 460 00:21:09,900 --> 00:21:12,367 WELL, I MEAN, PEOPLE WHO ARE HOME BREWERS, 461 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,500 WHO MAKE, YOU KNOW, COUNTRY WINES, 462 00:21:14,533 --> 00:21:15,833 AS THEY'RE CALLED, 463 00:21:15,867 --> 00:21:18,867 WHICH CAN BE MADE FROM ALL KINDS OF STUFF, YOU KNOW. 464 00:21:18,900 --> 00:21:20,967 USUALLY JUST ANYTHING BUT GRAPES. 465 00:21:21,067 --> 00:21:23,167 THEY'RE MAKING SOME FERMENT... 466 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,567 THIS TIME OF YEAR, THEY'LL BE MAKING PRIMROSE WINE. 467 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,200 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN MAKING PRIMROSE WINE 468 00:21:29,233 --> 00:21:30,567 FOR DONKEY'S YEARS. 469 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,733 AND AS FAR AS THE QUANTITIES ARE CONCERNED, 470 00:21:32,767 --> 00:21:34,267 YOU'RE NOT WORKING FROM A... 471 00:21:34,300 --> 00:21:36,133 YOU KNOW, FROM A COOKBOOK HERE, ARE YOU? 472 00:21:36,167 --> 00:21:37,267 NO, NO. SLOSH IT IN. 473 00:21:37,300 --> 00:21:39,233 I MEAN, THE YEAST, ALL WE'RE USING YEAST FOR 474 00:21:39,267 --> 00:21:41,233 IS TO GET A REALLY GOOD FERMENTATION GOING. 475 00:21:41,267 --> 00:21:43,167 ONCE IT'S GOING, YOU'RE GONNA BE MAKING... 476 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,067 THE YEAST WILL MAKE ITSELF. IT'LL GROW. 477 00:21:47,533 --> 00:21:50,867 Churton: THERE ARE PRACTICING ALCHEMISTS TODAY. 478 00:21:50,900 --> 00:21:53,100 THEY PROBABLY LIVE IN OBSCURITY. 479 00:21:53,133 --> 00:21:55,400 BUT OBSCURITY IS WHERE ALCHEMISTS, 480 00:21:55,433 --> 00:21:57,333 TECHNICALLY, WERE SUPPOSED TO LIVE, 481 00:21:57,367 --> 00:21:58,967 IF YOU READ FASCICULUS CHEMICUS, 482 00:21:59,067 --> 00:22:02,300 WHICH ELIAS ASHMOLE TRANSLATED IN 1650. 483 00:22:02,333 --> 00:22:05,633 HE SAID, "THE ALCHEMIST MUST LIVE APART. 484 00:22:05,667 --> 00:22:09,066 HE MUST LIVE WITHIN HIS OWN ROOT," AS HE PUTS IT. 485 00:22:09,067 --> 00:22:10,767 HE'S MEANT TO BE A LONER, 486 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,267 OUT THERE INVISIBLY INVESTIGATING THE UNIVERSE. 487 00:22:14,300 --> 00:22:17,333 HE MUSTN'T GET TOO CLOSE TO THE WAYS OF THE WORLD, 488 00:22:17,367 --> 00:22:20,800 BECAUSE TO BE A TRUE ALCHEMIST IS TO BE AN ADAPTED PRIEST. 489 00:22:20,833 --> 00:22:23,367 IT IS A HOLY CALLING TO BE AN ALCHEMIST. 490 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,267 YOU ARE GOING TO BE IMPARTED DIVINE KNOWLEDGE. 491 00:22:26,300 --> 00:22:28,066 YOU NEED A MIND THAT IS PURE, 492 00:22:28,067 --> 00:22:30,667 THAT IS ABLE TO RECEIVE HIGHER INFLUENCES, 493 00:22:30,700 --> 00:22:34,567 WHAT WE CALL NOETIC OR "NEETIC" INFLUENCES INTO THE MIND, 494 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,633 WHICH TRANSCEND REASON, 495 00:22:36,667 --> 00:22:41,200 WHICH OPEN THE MIND TO A VISIONARY STATE OF REALITY. 496 00:22:43,500 --> 00:22:45,200 LITTLE BIT MORE YEAST. 497 00:22:45,233 --> 00:22:47,400 OKAY. AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? 498 00:22:47,433 --> 00:22:49,933 WELL, ONCE THIS HAS FERMENTED OUT, 499 00:22:49,967 --> 00:22:51,467 SAY IT STARTS FIZZING 500 00:22:51,500 --> 00:22:53,967 AND, YOU KNOW, YOU GET A REAL FERMENT GOING, 501 00:22:54,067 --> 00:22:56,200 ONCE THAT'S FINISHED, ONCE THAT'S DONE 502 00:22:56,233 --> 00:22:58,467 AND EVERYTHING JUST SINKS TO THE BOTTOM 503 00:22:58,500 --> 00:22:59,600 AND IT ALL GOES QUIET, 504 00:22:59,633 --> 00:23:00,967 I WILL TAKE THAT... 505 00:23:01,067 --> 00:23:02,776 DO YOU WANT ME TO... OKAY, WE'LL LEAVE THAT THERE? 506 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,543 LEAVE THAT THERE, 'CAUSE THAT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN NOW. 507 00:23:04,567 --> 00:23:06,066 IT'LL TAKE ABOUT A WEEK OR SO. 508 00:23:06,067 --> 00:23:07,100 RIGHT. OKAY. 509 00:23:07,133 --> 00:23:09,400 AND THEN I WILL STICK A... 510 00:23:09,433 --> 00:23:12,267 I'LL STICK A BIG FUNNEL IN HERE WITH A SIEVE 511 00:23:12,300 --> 00:23:13,833 AND JUST POUR IT ALL IN. 512 00:23:13,867 --> 00:23:15,167 THAT'LL GO INTO HERE, 513 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,167 AND THEN I WILL APPLY HEAT TO THE BOTTOM OF THAT. 514 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,233 MM-HMM. 515 00:23:19,267 --> 00:23:21,433 I WILL SET UP THIS PUPPY. 516 00:23:21,467 --> 00:23:23,100 WOW. THAT LOOKS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. 517 00:23:23,133 --> 00:23:24,100 SO, WHAT IS THIS? 518 00:23:24,133 --> 00:23:27,900 THAT IS... THAT'S A GRAHAM CONDENSER. 519 00:23:27,933 --> 00:23:29,067 OKAY. 520 00:23:29,100 --> 00:23:30,643 OR IS IT A DAVIES CONDENSER? I CAN'T REMEMBER. 521 00:23:30,667 --> 00:23:32,333 IT IS A SPIRAL-COIL CONDENSER. 522 00:23:32,367 --> 00:23:34,633 IT'S A SPIRAL-COIL CONDENSER. THAT'LL DO ME. 523 00:23:34,667 --> 00:23:37,467 AND WE WILL... 524 00:23:37,500 --> 00:23:39,900 WE WILL BASICALLY DISTILL THIS OVER. 525 00:23:39,933 --> 00:23:42,467 SO, THIS'LL BE LIKE MAKING MOONSHINE. 526 00:23:44,533 --> 00:23:48,100 AT THE END OF THE PROCESS, WHAT IS IT THAT WE END UP WITH? 527 00:23:48,133 --> 00:23:49,233 WHAT DO WE HAVE? 528 00:23:49,267 --> 00:23:52,267 WELL, WE END UP WITH A DISTILLED... 529 00:23:52,300 --> 00:23:54,800 WELL, AT THE END OF THE WHOLE PROCESS, 530 00:23:54,833 --> 00:23:57,433 YOU'VE GOT A SPAGYRIC ESSENCE OF NETTLE. 531 00:23:57,467 --> 00:23:58,833 RIGHT. 532 00:23:58,867 --> 00:24:01,767 WHICH IS BASICALLY THE BEST SORT OF NETTLE POTION YOU CAN GET. 533 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,933 AND WHAT WOULD WE DO WITH THE NETTLE POTION? 534 00:24:03,967 --> 00:24:05,367 IT'S A GREAT TONIC. 535 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,066 YOU JUST TAKE A FEW DROPS IN WATER. 536 00:24:08,067 --> 00:24:10,066 IDEALLY IT'S A SPRING TONIC, 537 00:24:10,067 --> 00:24:13,167 AND IT'LL GIVE YOU A BRIGHT EYE AND A SHINY COAT. 538 00:24:17,367 --> 00:24:19,967 AND WHAT DO PEOPLE MAKE OF YOU, GUY, 539 00:24:20,067 --> 00:24:23,066 WHEN YOU TELL THEM THAT YOU'RE AN ALCHEMIST? 540 00:24:23,067 --> 00:24:25,067 I DON'T TELL ANYONE I'M AN ALCHEMIST. 541 00:24:25,100 --> 00:24:26,567 MY FRIENDS TELL EVERYBODY 542 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,867 THAT THEY'VE GOT A MATE WHO'S AN ALCHEMIST. 543 00:24:28,900 --> 00:24:32,200 IT'S LIKE, "AH, SO YOU'RE SO-AND-SO'S MATE THE ALCHEMIST." 544 00:24:32,233 --> 00:24:35,667 SO, I GET CALLED "THE ALCHEMIST" ALL THE TIME. 545 00:24:35,700 --> 00:24:36,933 AND IT'S FUNNY, 546 00:24:36,967 --> 00:24:39,667 BECAUSE IT JUST LEADS TO A DISCUSSION ABOUT ALCHEMY. 547 00:24:39,700 --> 00:24:41,167 AND AS YOU PROBABLY REALIZE, 548 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,767 I CAN TALK ABOUT ALCHEMY TILL THE COWS COME HOME. 549 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,667 IT'S MY FAVORITE TOPIC OF CONVERSATION. 550 00:24:53,067 --> 00:24:55,233 Narrator: WITHOUT DOUBT, 551 00:24:55,267 --> 00:24:57,733 GUY OGILVY IS A FASCINATING CHARACTER, 552 00:24:57,767 --> 00:25:00,467 BUT RATHER MORE OF ENTHUSIASTIC HERBALIST 553 00:25:00,500 --> 00:25:01,900 THAN A CLASSIC ALCHEMIST 554 00:25:01,933 --> 00:25:03,967 IN THE MOLD OF NEWTON AND FLAMEL, 555 00:25:04,067 --> 00:25:06,833 SOMEONE SO CAPTIVATED BY THEIR PASSION FOR THE SUBJECT 556 00:25:06,867 --> 00:25:09,367 THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO TURN THEIR GARDEN SHED 557 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,767 INTO A MAKESHIFT LABORATORY. 558 00:25:20,067 --> 00:25:23,767 DO YOU BELIEVE THAT IT IS POSSIBLE 559 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,233 TO TURN LEAD INTO GOLD? 560 00:25:26,267 --> 00:25:27,433 YEAH, OF COURSE. 561 00:25:27,467 --> 00:25:30,333 I THINK IT'S POSSIBLE TO CREATE UNIVERSES. 562 00:25:30,367 --> 00:25:31,867 SOMEBODY DID. 563 00:25:31,900 --> 00:25:35,200 BUT WHY AREN'T YOU DOING IT? WE COULD MAKE A FORTUNE, GUY. 564 00:25:35,233 --> 00:25:38,467 IT'S VERY TRICKY. VERY TRICKY. 565 00:25:38,500 --> 00:25:40,300 [ BOTH LAUGH ] 566 00:25:40,333 --> 00:25:42,200 NOT EASY. 567 00:25:45,367 --> 00:25:49,367 Narrator: WAS WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE A SECRET ALCHEMIST 568 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,600 WHO BUILT HIS FAMOUS GLOBE THEATRE 569 00:25:51,633 --> 00:25:54,066 USING SPECIFIC CABALISTIC MEASUREMENTS 570 00:25:54,067 --> 00:25:57,300 TO HAVE A MIND-ALTERING EFFECT ON ALL THOSE INSIDE? 571 00:25:57,333 --> 00:26:01,600 MORE INCREDIBLE REVELATIONS WHEN "FORBIDDEN HISTORY" RETURNS. 572 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,100 Narrator: WERE ALCHEMISTS 573 00:26:07,133 --> 00:26:09,200 LIKE NOSTRADAMUS, FLAMEL, AND JOHN DEE 574 00:26:09,233 --> 00:26:11,833 GREAT MAGICIANS AND SUPERNATURAL PROPHETS, 575 00:26:11,867 --> 00:26:13,700 OR WERE THEY JUST GREAT SHOWMEN 576 00:26:13,733 --> 00:26:16,567 AND EARLY PRACTITIONERS OF MODERN SCIENCE? 577 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,700 JOURNALIST JAMIE THEAKSTON IS ON A MISSION TO FIND OUT. 578 00:26:20,733 --> 00:26:25,400 SO FAR, HE'S WATCHED A COPPER COIN BEING TURNED GOLD 579 00:26:25,433 --> 00:26:27,066 IN A LABORATORY, 580 00:26:27,067 --> 00:26:29,133 HE'S MET A MODERN-DAY ALCHEMIST 581 00:26:29,167 --> 00:26:31,633 WHO MADE HIM A STRONG HERBAL POTION, 582 00:26:31,667 --> 00:26:34,200 AND NOW HE'S IN LONDON TO MEET A LADY 583 00:26:34,233 --> 00:26:37,300 WHO MIGHT WELL BE ABOUT TO REWRITE THE HISTORY 584 00:26:37,333 --> 00:26:39,900 OF WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE AND HIS GLOBE THEATRE. 585 00:26:46,700 --> 00:26:49,100 BACK IN THE 1990s, 586 00:26:49,133 --> 00:26:52,100 THE AUTHOR AND HISTORIAN JOY HANCOX 587 00:26:52,133 --> 00:26:55,800 CAME INTO POSSESSION OF HUNDREDS OF HANDWRITTEN MANUSCRIPTS, 588 00:26:55,833 --> 00:26:59,066 EACH ONE DECORATED WITH MYSTERIOUS HERMETIC SYMBOLS 589 00:26:59,067 --> 00:27:01,167 AND GEOMETRICAL DESIGNS, 590 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,433 SOME OF WHICH DATED BACK TO THE 15th CENTURY. 591 00:27:04,467 --> 00:27:05,700 ALL SHE KNEW WAS 592 00:27:05,733 --> 00:27:08,300 THAT THEY WERE THE PRIVATE COLLECTION OF JOHN BYROM, 593 00:27:08,333 --> 00:27:10,700 AN 18th-CENTURY POET AND INTELLECTUAL 594 00:27:10,733 --> 00:27:13,100 WHO WAS A MEMBER OF THE ROYAL SOCIETY 595 00:27:13,133 --> 00:27:16,100 AND THE INVENTOR OF AN EARLY FORM OF SHORTHAND. 596 00:27:16,133 --> 00:27:18,300 BUT WHAT WERE THEY? 597 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,133 I WENT TO LONDON UNIVERSITY. 598 00:27:24,167 --> 00:27:26,933 I WENT TO CAMBRIDGE UNIVERSITY. 599 00:27:26,967 --> 00:27:29,900 I WENT TO OXFORD UNIVERSITY. 600 00:27:29,933 --> 00:27:32,600 I SPOKE TO EXPERTS OF MATHEMATICS. 601 00:27:32,633 --> 00:27:35,733 I WROTE TO THE HISTORY OF MATHEMATICS IN THIS COUNTRY. 602 00:27:35,767 --> 00:27:39,567 I ASKED THEM WHETHER THEY COULD HELP ME UNDERSTAND 603 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,367 WHAT THESE REPRESENTED. 604 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,600 AND I HAVE TO SAY, NOT ONE OF THEM DID. 605 00:27:44,633 --> 00:27:46,200 NOT ONE. NO. 606 00:27:46,233 --> 00:27:48,767 BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T, OR BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO? 607 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,300 NO, I DON'T THINK IT WAS A QUESTION 608 00:27:51,333 --> 00:27:52,900 OF THEM NOT WANTING TO. 609 00:27:52,933 --> 00:27:55,200 I THINK, QUITE GENUINELY, 610 00:27:55,233 --> 00:28:00,133 THEY DID NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THE GEOMETRY REPRESENTED, 611 00:28:00,167 --> 00:28:02,067 AND THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THEM. 612 00:28:02,100 --> 00:28:04,600 AND I THINK THAT'S AN HONEST ANSWER FROM ME. 613 00:28:06,067 --> 00:28:08,100 "THE SQUARE OUT OF THE CIRCLE, 614 00:28:08,133 --> 00:28:11,200 IT FITS THE WHOLE OF THE FOOT OF THE GLOBE'S UPPER PART." 615 00:28:11,233 --> 00:28:15,067 3:6:9 IS A RULE FOR IT. 616 00:28:15,100 --> 00:28:17,200 Narrator: AS SHE RESEARCHED FURTHER, 617 00:28:17,233 --> 00:28:18,533 JOY BEGAN TO REVEAL 618 00:28:18,567 --> 00:28:21,867 THAT THE MANUSCRIPTS WERE IN FACT ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNS 619 00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:24,900 AND GROUND PLANS OF FAMOUS LONDON LANDMARKS, 620 00:28:24,933 --> 00:28:28,267 INCLUDING WESTMINSTER ABBEY, ST. PAUL'S CATHEDRAL, 621 00:28:28,300 --> 00:28:31,767 AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE ORIGINAL GLOBE THEATRE 622 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,267 FROM THE TIME OF QUEEN ELIZABETH. 623 00:28:34,300 --> 00:28:36,800 AT FIRST, SHE WASN'T SURE HOW IT ALL CONNECTED, 624 00:28:36,833 --> 00:28:38,133 BUT SHE WAS CERTAIN 625 00:28:38,167 --> 00:28:41,667 THAT THE MANUSCRIPTS CONTAINED DISTINCT MASONIC SYMBOLS. 626 00:28:41,700 --> 00:28:44,433 SO SHE SHOWED THEM TO A LEADING FREEMASON. 627 00:28:44,467 --> 00:28:46,767 I SET ALL THE DRAWINGS OUT ON THE TABLE, 628 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,600 'CAUSE THEN I THOUGHT, "RIGHT, 629 00:28:48,633 --> 00:28:51,467 THAT THIS MUST BE SOMETHING TO DO WITH FREEMASONRY. 630 00:28:51,500 --> 00:28:53,400 IT MUST BE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THAT. 631 00:28:53,433 --> 00:28:55,533 I WILL SET THE DRAWINGS OUT IN SUCH A WAY. 632 00:28:55,567 --> 00:28:57,600 I KNOW THAT THAT'S A MASONIC ONE." 633 00:28:57,633 --> 00:28:59,600 AND I PUT IT IN STRATEGIC PLACES. 634 00:28:59,633 --> 00:29:01,400 AND WHAT HE DID IS HE SAID, 635 00:29:01,433 --> 00:29:04,067 "MM, NOW, THESE ARE ALL VERY INTERESTING. 636 00:29:04,100 --> 00:29:05,500 WHAT CAN I DO FOR YOU? 637 00:29:05,533 --> 00:29:08,233 AND THEN I'LL TELL YOU WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR ME." 638 00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:13,500 SHE SAID THAT HER FREEMASON CONTACT 639 00:29:13,533 --> 00:29:15,500 ACTUALLY HELPED HER TO DECIPHER 640 00:29:15,533 --> 00:29:18,333 A NUMBER OF THE SYMBOLS, CODES, AND SIGNS, 641 00:29:18,367 --> 00:29:21,767 INCLUDING THE CONNECTION TO THE ELIZABETHAN THEATERS IN LONDON. 642 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,367 AS SHE DELVED FURTHER, 643 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,167 SHE FOUND EVIDENCE OF A SECRET CIRCLE, 644 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,066 MANY OF WHOM WERE IN THE ROYAL SOCIETY, 645 00:29:29,067 --> 00:29:30,533 LIKE JOHN BYROM, 646 00:29:30,567 --> 00:29:33,900 WHO SEEMED TO BE THE KEEPERS OF A POWERFUL ANCIENT KNOWLEDGE, 647 00:29:33,933 --> 00:29:36,833 A MIX OF MATHEMATICS, METAPHYSICS, AND ALCHEMY 648 00:29:36,867 --> 00:29:38,700 THAT HAD BEEN SECRETLY ENCODED 649 00:29:38,733 --> 00:29:41,533 INTO THE DESIGNS OF THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES. 650 00:29:44,333 --> 00:29:46,867 I CAME ACROSS THIS PARTICULAR DRAWING, 651 00:29:46,900 --> 00:29:49,667 AND I SAT LOOKING AT IT AND STARING AT IT. 652 00:29:49,700 --> 00:29:51,066 AND I MEAN STARING AT IT. 653 00:29:51,067 --> 00:29:54,233 'CAUSE YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S JUST NO NUMBERS ON IT WHATSOEVER. 654 00:29:54,267 --> 00:29:55,333 OKAY? YEAH. 655 00:29:55,367 --> 00:29:56,667 YOU CAN SEE THAT. YEAH. 656 00:29:56,700 --> 00:29:58,500 AND I COUNTED THE SQUARES. 657 00:29:58,533 --> 00:30:00,500 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, YEAH? 658 00:30:00,533 --> 00:30:01,767 YEAH. 659 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,267 AND IF YOU'LL HAVE A LOOK, THEY'RE ALL DOTS. 660 00:30:05,300 --> 00:30:08,067 AND IF YOU CAN SEE THE SCORING ALL DOWN THE PAGE LIKE SO. 661 00:30:08,100 --> 00:30:10,233 CAN YOU SEE THE SCORING? YEAH, RIGHT? 662 00:30:10,267 --> 00:30:13,633 AND THEN YOU'VE GOT A SQUARE INSIDE IT, THERE, ALL RIGHT? 663 00:30:13,667 --> 00:30:15,233 MM-HMM. ALL DOTS. 664 00:30:15,267 --> 00:30:17,133 AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE CORNERS HERE, 665 00:30:17,167 --> 00:30:18,333 YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S 666 00:30:18,367 --> 00:30:20,100 A SORT OF A SPLIT DIVIDING, YEAH? 667 00:30:20,133 --> 00:30:21,533 THIS LINE CUTS AND BISECTS IT. 668 00:30:21,567 --> 00:30:23,333 YEAH, DO YOU SEE THAT? YEAH, I'VE GOT IT. 669 00:30:23,367 --> 00:30:25,567 AND THEN YOU'VE GOT A RING THAT GOES AROUND HERE. 670 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,700 NOW, IF YOU LOOK VERY, VERY CLOSELY, 671 00:30:27,733 --> 00:30:29,667 THAT RING, THE EDGE OF THAT RING, 672 00:30:29,700 --> 00:30:31,533 DOESN'T ACTUALLY TOUCH THOSE DOTS. 673 00:30:31,567 --> 00:30:33,000 IT'S JUST SHORTLY INSIDE. 674 00:30:33,033 --> 00:30:36,100 IN OTHER WORDS, THERE IS AN ABSOLUTE PRECISION HERE, 675 00:30:36,133 --> 00:30:39,167 WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY REMARKABLE, YEAH? 676 00:30:40,667 --> 00:30:42,167 Narrator: JOY BELIEVES 677 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,633 THAT THE CABALISTIC MATHEMATICS IN THE GEOMETRY IS VERY PRECISE 678 00:30:46,667 --> 00:30:49,033 AND REVOLVES AROUND THE MEASURE OF 72. 679 00:30:49,067 --> 00:30:51,633 EVERYTHING IN THE GLOBE THEATRE, SHE SAYS, 680 00:30:51,667 --> 00:30:53,500 CONNECTS TO THIS FIGURE... 681 00:30:53,533 --> 00:30:57,467 THE GROUND PLAN, THE LAYOUT, THE STAGE, EVERYTHING. 682 00:30:57,500 --> 00:31:00,600 AND SHE SAYS IT WAS QUITE DELIBERATE. 683 00:31:00,633 --> 00:31:06,800 THIS IS MAGIC IN THE EYES OF THOSE OF THE DAY 684 00:31:06,833 --> 00:31:08,900 BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT. 685 00:31:08,933 --> 00:31:10,867 WE ALL HAVE AN INVISIBLE SPACE. 686 00:31:10,900 --> 00:31:16,367 THE GROUNDLINGS WERE STANDING IN THE OPEN AIR OF THE THEATER, 687 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,067 WHICH WAS THIS SPACE HERE. 688 00:31:18,100 --> 00:31:20,600 WHEN YOU GET PEOPLE WHO ARE GELLING TOGETHER 689 00:31:20,633 --> 00:31:23,400 AND STANDING TOGETHER AND THEY'RE WATCHING SOMETHING, 690 00:31:23,433 --> 00:31:25,867 IT CAN BECOME VERY HYPNOTIC. 691 00:31:25,900 --> 00:31:30,067 AND ASTROLOGICALLY, WITHIN THAT FRAME OF 72, 692 00:31:30,100 --> 00:31:35,133 THERE IS SOMETHING REALLY RATHER ACOUSTICALLY WONDERFUL 693 00:31:35,167 --> 00:31:37,933 THAT CAN HAPPEN TO PEOPLE. 694 00:31:37,967 --> 00:31:41,066 Churton: NOW, IF ALL THE WORLD'S A STAGE, 695 00:31:41,067 --> 00:31:42,600 THEN SURELY, BY EXTENSION, 696 00:31:42,633 --> 00:31:44,733 ALL THE COSMOS IS A KIND OF PLAY. 697 00:31:44,767 --> 00:31:47,267 AND YOU CAN... 698 00:31:47,300 --> 00:31:49,700 THE STAGE, THEN, BECOMES A MICROCOSM 699 00:31:49,733 --> 00:31:51,600 OF THE POWERS OF THE UNIVERSE. 700 00:31:51,633 --> 00:31:54,500 THIS IS VERY EVIDENT IN A PLAY LIKE "THE TEMPEST," 701 00:31:54,533 --> 00:31:56,300 ONE OF SHAKESPEARE'S LATE PLAYS, 702 00:31:56,333 --> 00:32:00,400 WHERE HE DEVELOPS THE IDEA OF AN ISLAND OF MAGICAL POWERS 703 00:32:00,433 --> 00:32:04,167 ALL UNDER THE CONTROL OF ONE MAN, THE MAGUS PROSPERO, 704 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,400 WHO JUST MIGHT BE BASED ON JOHN DEE 705 00:32:07,433 --> 00:32:10,133 OR AN IDEA OF SOMEBODY LIKE HIM, 706 00:32:10,167 --> 00:32:13,933 SOMEBODY WHO CAN COMMAND ALL THE ELEMENTS TO DO HIS WILL. 707 00:32:13,967 --> 00:32:16,800 AND THE FACT THAT HE CAN SUMMON ALL THIS UP, 708 00:32:16,833 --> 00:32:18,300 CONJURE IT UP ON STAGE, 709 00:32:18,333 --> 00:32:20,900 IS A REAL ACT OF CONJURATION BECAUSE... 710 00:32:20,933 --> 00:32:24,467 COLERDIGE REFERRED TO THE SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF, 711 00:32:24,500 --> 00:32:28,066 WHICH IS REQUIRED BY PEOPLE WHO ARE ENGAGED WITH THEATER. 712 00:32:28,067 --> 00:32:31,567 SURELY ANYONE WATCHING THEATER IN THOSE DAYS 713 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,467 WAS ENTERING AN ALCHEMICAL FURNACE 714 00:32:34,500 --> 00:32:37,267 AND BECOMING, IN THEIR OWN MINDS, 715 00:32:37,300 --> 00:32:38,867 PART OF THE DRAMA. 716 00:32:42,533 --> 00:32:45,567 Theakston: SO, I'M ABSOLUTELY FASCINATED 717 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,100 BY WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME HERE. 718 00:32:48,133 --> 00:32:49,533 WAS THERE A SECRET 719 00:32:49,567 --> 00:32:52,733 THAT THESE ALCHEMISTS MIGHT HAVE HAD HERE? 720 00:32:52,767 --> 00:32:53,867 AND IS THIS IT? 721 00:32:53,900 --> 00:32:59,433 WELL, I AM BEING AS HONEST AS I CAN. 722 00:32:59,467 --> 00:33:01,667 WHAT I HAVE LEARNED 723 00:33:01,700 --> 00:33:05,633 IS THROUGH THE SYSTEM THAT IS HERE, 724 00:33:05,667 --> 00:33:08,066 INHERENT WITHIN THE DRAWINGS. 725 00:33:08,067 --> 00:33:10,533 I THINK THAT THERE IS SOMETHING 726 00:33:10,567 --> 00:33:13,066 WITHIN THE LAWS OF NUMBER SYMBOLISM 727 00:33:13,067 --> 00:33:15,133 THAT WE CAN RELATE TO NATURE 728 00:33:15,167 --> 00:33:17,600 IN A WAY THAT MAY AFFECT 729 00:33:17,633 --> 00:33:20,533 WHAT THE ALCHEMISTS THOUGHT THAT THEY COULD ACHIEVE. 730 00:33:20,567 --> 00:33:25,066 I AM ABSOLUTELY 100% CERTAIN 731 00:33:25,067 --> 00:33:31,933 THAT, THROUGH AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THIS REPRESENTS, 732 00:33:31,967 --> 00:33:36,133 WE CAN BE TAKEN INTO A KIND OF WORLD 733 00:33:36,167 --> 00:33:37,967 THAT THE NEWTONS OF THIS WORLD 734 00:33:38,067 --> 00:33:44,333 AND JOHN DEE MIGHT HAVE DONE THROUGH THEIR USE OF WHAT... 735 00:33:44,367 --> 00:33:47,300 OTHER PEOPLE WOULD USE THE TERM ALCHEMY. 736 00:33:52,933 --> 00:33:56,200 Narrator: SO, WAS THERE REALLY A SECRET CIRCLE OF ALCHEMISTS 737 00:33:56,233 --> 00:33:58,733 WHICH HAD PROTECTED SOME ANCIENT MANUSCRIPTS 738 00:33:58,767 --> 00:34:01,467 AND PASSED THEM DOWN THROUGH THE CENTURIES? 739 00:34:01,500 --> 00:34:04,467 AND HAD THEY ENCODED SOME SACRED HERMETIC KNOWLEDGE 740 00:34:04,500 --> 00:34:06,600 INTO THE DESIGN OF THEIR THEATERS? 741 00:34:06,633 --> 00:34:10,133 JOY HANCOX IS CONVINCED THAT THIS IS THE CASE. 742 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,300 AND IF THERE WAS A SECRET CIRCLE OF INITIATES 743 00:34:17,333 --> 00:34:18,733 IN THE 17th CENTURY, 744 00:34:18,767 --> 00:34:20,500 THEN THE MAN WHO ROSE TO BECOME 745 00:34:20,533 --> 00:34:23,233 THE FATHER OF MODERN SCIENCE, SIR ISAAC NEWTON, 746 00:34:23,267 --> 00:34:25,267 WAS MOST PROBABLY A MEMBER. 747 00:34:25,300 --> 00:34:26,667 IN THE LAST DECADE, 748 00:34:26,700 --> 00:34:29,233 AFTER NEARLY 300 YEARS LOCKED AWAY, 749 00:34:29,267 --> 00:34:31,433 HIS PRIVATE PAPERS HAVE BEEN RELEASED 750 00:34:31,467 --> 00:34:33,667 BY THE ROYAL SOCIETY IN LONDON, 751 00:34:33,700 --> 00:34:34,933 AND THEY SHOW 752 00:34:34,967 --> 00:34:37,733 THAT HE WAS A DEDICATED AND LIFELONG ALCHEMIST. 753 00:34:37,767 --> 00:34:40,733 KEITH MOORE, THE HEAD LIBRARIAN, AGREED TO SHOW JAMIE 754 00:34:40,767 --> 00:34:43,433 SOME OF THE GREAT MAN'S POSSESSIONS AND PAPERS 755 00:34:43,467 --> 00:34:45,167 THAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR VAULTS. 756 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,433 OKAY, JAMIE. 757 00:34:46,467 --> 00:34:49,767 I'VE BROUGHT OUT A FEW NEWTON ITEMS 758 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,066 FOR YOU TO HAVE A LOOK AT. 759 00:34:51,067 --> 00:34:53,800 SOME MEMORABILIA, BOOKS, AND MANUSCRIPTS. 760 00:34:53,833 --> 00:34:56,400 HERE'S ONE OF THE VERY IMPORTANT ONES. 761 00:34:56,433 --> 00:34:59,066 THIS IS A COPY OF NEWTON'S DEATH MASK. 762 00:34:59,067 --> 00:35:02,100 SO, THIS IS THE CLOSEST YOU WILL GET TO ISAAC NEWTON. 763 00:35:02,133 --> 00:35:04,800 THIS IS HOW HE ACTUALLY LOOKED ON HIS DEATHBED. 764 00:35:04,833 --> 00:35:05,943 THAT'S THE MAN HIMSELF, RIGHT? 765 00:35:05,967 --> 00:35:07,066 IT IS, INDEED. 766 00:35:07,067 --> 00:35:08,767 AND SCULPTORS WOULD TAKE THESE 767 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,233 SO THAT THEY COULD SCULPT BUSTS OF HIM LATER, 768 00:35:11,267 --> 00:35:14,400 AS HE BECAME MORE AND MORE FAMOUS. 769 00:35:14,433 --> 00:35:19,567 WE HAVE A LITTLE PIECE OF THE FAMOUS NEWTONIAN APPLE TREE, 770 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,500 THE ONE AT WOOLSTHORPE MANOR, 771 00:35:21,533 --> 00:35:24,667 AND THE ONE WHERE IT IS SUPPOSED HE WAS SITTING UNDER 772 00:35:24,700 --> 00:35:27,200 WHEN THE IDEA OF GRAVITY CAME INTO HIS MIND. 773 00:35:27,233 --> 00:35:29,066 THIS ONE, WE SENT UP IN SPACE 774 00:35:29,067 --> 00:35:31,333 WITH THE BRITISH ASTRONAUT PIERS SELLERS 775 00:35:31,367 --> 00:35:32,567 ON THE SPACE SHUTTLE. 776 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,067 WOW. THIS IS A BIT OF THE ACTUAL TREE. 777 00:35:35,100 --> 00:35:36,333 AND IS THAT A MYTH? 778 00:35:36,367 --> 00:35:38,433 IT'S A STORY THAT NEWTON HIMSELF TOLD 779 00:35:38,467 --> 00:35:40,500 TO WILLIAM STUKELEY, AMONG OTHERS. 780 00:35:40,533 --> 00:35:42,633 STUKELEY WAS ONE OF HIS BIOGRAPHERS. 781 00:35:42,667 --> 00:35:44,833 SO, HE DID TELL THE STORY. 782 00:35:44,867 --> 00:35:47,733 ALTHOUGH IT MAY WELL BE TRUE, LITERALLY TRUE, 783 00:35:47,767 --> 00:35:50,533 BUT OF COURSE IT HAS BIBLICAL CONNOTATIONS, 784 00:35:50,567 --> 00:35:52,800 AND NEWTON WOULD HAVE LIKED THAT, I THINK. 785 00:35:52,833 --> 00:35:55,109 RIGHT. WAS HE A RELIGIOUS MAN? WAS HE INTERESTED IN RELIGION? 786 00:35:55,133 --> 00:35:56,400 HE WAS. 787 00:35:56,433 --> 00:36:00,900 HE NOT ONLY WROTE SCIENCE, BUT HE WROTE THEOLOGY, AS WELL. 788 00:36:00,933 --> 00:36:03,800 AND ALSO ALCHEMY, OF COURSE. 789 00:36:03,833 --> 00:36:08,066 Churton: ISAAC NEWTON WAS, FOR A PERIOD OF HIS LIFE, 790 00:36:08,067 --> 00:36:13,967 A DEDICATED DEVOTEE OF THE ALCHEMICAL QUEST. 791 00:36:14,067 --> 00:36:18,233 THIS KNOWLEDGE HAS COME TO US MAINLY SINCE THE 1930s, 792 00:36:18,267 --> 00:36:22,233 WHEN A LARGE CACHE OF HIS ALCHEMICAL PAPERS CAME TO LIGHT 793 00:36:22,267 --> 00:36:26,467 AND STUDIES WERE MADE OF THOSE PAPERS, 794 00:36:26,500 --> 00:36:31,200 WHEREAS IN THE 19th CENTURY, THIS ASPECT OF NEWTON 795 00:36:31,233 --> 00:36:34,433 HAD BEEN SUPPRESSED AS AN EMBARRASSMENT. 796 00:36:34,467 --> 00:36:37,967 HOW COULD THE FATHER OF MODERN SCIENCE 797 00:36:38,067 --> 00:36:42,233 SULLY HIS HANDS WITH THIS SUPERSTITIOUS NONSENSE 798 00:36:42,267 --> 00:36:44,400 ABOUT THE PHILOSOPHER'S STONE? 799 00:36:44,433 --> 00:36:46,900 WELL, ISAAC NEWTON DID SULLY HIS HANDS 800 00:36:46,933 --> 00:36:49,700 WITH THE SEARCH FOR THE PHILOSOPHER'S STONE, 801 00:36:49,733 --> 00:36:51,400 AND HE SPENT A GOOD NUMBER OF YEARS, 802 00:36:51,433 --> 00:36:53,633 STARTING AROUND 1667, 803 00:36:53,667 --> 00:36:58,600 AT HIS ROOMS IN CAMBRIDGE, NOT IN ENTIRE SECRECY, 804 00:36:58,633 --> 00:37:02,067 TRYING TO PRODUCE 805 00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:06,567 A SCIENTIFIC METHODOLOGY OF ALCHEMY. 806 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,233 NOW, THERE'S ONE MORE ASPECT OF ALCHEMY 807 00:37:16,267 --> 00:37:18,500 THAT I THINK WE SHOULD SHOW YOU. 808 00:37:18,533 --> 00:37:21,233 YEAH, THIS IS ONE THAT I'M PARTICULARLY EXCITED ABOUT, 809 00:37:21,267 --> 00:37:24,066 BECAUSE IT'S PERHAPS A LESSER KNOWN DIMENSION OF ALCHEMY 810 00:37:24,067 --> 00:37:26,600 THAT KICKS IN AROUND THE 18th CENTURY. 811 00:37:26,633 --> 00:37:29,167 THIS IS PHILOSOPHICAL FIREWORKS. 812 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,500 RIGHT. OKAY. THAT SOUNDS DRAMATIC. 813 00:37:31,533 --> 00:37:33,066 WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? 814 00:37:33,067 --> 00:37:35,500 AND, SO, WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A LITTLE MIXTURE 815 00:37:35,533 --> 00:37:37,367 TO WHICH I'M GOING TO ADD WATER. 816 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:38,567 YOU READY? 817 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:39,900 DO I NEED TO STAND BACK? 818 00:37:39,933 --> 00:37:41,066 PROBABLY. 819 00:37:41,067 --> 00:37:42,900 WHOA! 820 00:37:42,933 --> 00:37:45,066 WAS THAT DRAMATIC? 821 00:37:45,067 --> 00:37:46,100 WOW. 822 00:37:46,133 --> 00:37:48,066 IT'S QUITE A FLASH, ISN'T IT? 823 00:37:48,067 --> 00:37:49,733 THAT'S MAGIC. YEAH, YEAH. 824 00:37:49,767 --> 00:37:51,933 WELL, AS ARTHUR C. CLARKE ONCE SAID, 825 00:37:51,967 --> 00:37:54,167 ANY SUFFICIENTLY ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY 826 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,200 WILL ALWAYS LOOK LIKE MAGIC. 827 00:37:56,233 --> 00:37:59,633 YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HEARING A LOT ABOUT FLAMEL AND BOYLE 828 00:37:59,667 --> 00:38:02,900 DURING THE COURSE OF INVESTIGATING THIS WHOLE THING, 829 00:38:02,933 --> 00:38:04,067 AND IT STRIKES ME 830 00:38:04,100 --> 00:38:06,633 THAT WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING IS ALCHEMY, RIGHT? 831 00:38:06,667 --> 00:38:10,700 WELL, IN THE SENSE THAT WE'RE STILL TRANSFORMING MATTER, 832 00:38:10,733 --> 00:38:12,267 THERE'S NO QUESTION. 833 00:38:12,300 --> 00:38:15,600 BUT I'D LIKE TO THINK OF ALCHEMY AS BEING A METAPHOR 834 00:38:15,633 --> 00:38:18,067 RATHER THAN AN ACTUAL PROCESS TODAY. 835 00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:21,400 Narrator: THE ROYAL SOCIETY OPENS THE VAULTS 836 00:38:21,433 --> 00:38:22,733 AND BRINGS OUT 837 00:38:22,767 --> 00:38:26,167 ONE OF SIR ISAAC NEWTON'S SECRET ALCHEMICAL MANUSCRIPTS, 838 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:30,167 WHICH HAD BEEN LOCKED AWAY FOR NEARLY 300 YEARS. 839 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:34,233 MORE ASTOUNDING REVELATIONS WHEN "FORBIDDEN HISTORY" RETURNS." 840 00:38:38,767 --> 00:38:40,066 Narrator: JOURNALIST JAMIE THEAKSTON 841 00:38:40,067 --> 00:38:42,067 IS ON A MISSION TO INVESTIGATE 842 00:38:42,100 --> 00:38:45,300 WHETHER THE GREAT ALCHEMISTS HAD SUPERNATURAL POWERS 843 00:38:45,333 --> 00:38:48,100 OR WERE JUST EARLY PIONEERS OF MODERN SCIENCE. 844 00:38:48,133 --> 00:38:50,767 HE'S MET WITH SCIENTISTS WHO HAVE DEMONSTRATED 845 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:55,200 HOW IT'S POSSIBLE TO TURN BASE METAL INTO A GOLD COLOR 846 00:38:55,233 --> 00:38:57,066 WITH A BASIC EXPERIMENT. 847 00:38:57,067 --> 00:38:59,567 HE'S MADE A STRONG HERBAL POTION WITH A MODERN-DAY ALCHEMIST 848 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,433 USING INGREDIENTS FROM HIS GARDEN. 849 00:39:02,467 --> 00:39:05,367 AND HE'S MET AN AUTHOR WHO THINKS SHE HAS PROOF 850 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,933 THAT A SECRET CABAL OF THINKERS, PHILOSOPHERS, AND WRITERS, 851 00:39:08,967 --> 00:39:11,067 INCLUDING WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, 852 00:39:11,100 --> 00:39:13,967 HAVE SOUGHT TO INTRODUCE ALCHEMICAL SECRETS AND MAGIC 853 00:39:14,067 --> 00:39:15,600 INTO SOCIETY 854 00:39:15,633 --> 00:39:18,433 THROUGH BOTH ARCHITECTURE AND THE WRITTEN WORD. 855 00:39:18,467 --> 00:39:22,267 AND FINALLY, JAMIE HAS ENDED UP AT THE ROYAL SOCIETY IN LONDON, 856 00:39:22,300 --> 00:39:23,700 FACE TO FACE WITH 857 00:39:23,733 --> 00:39:28,067 ONE OF SIR ISAAC NEWTON'S SECRET ALCHEMICAL MANUSCRIPTS. 858 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,233 Theakston: SO, TALK ME THROUGH. 859 00:39:39,267 --> 00:39:41,633 WHAT IS THIS? WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT HERE? 860 00:39:41,667 --> 00:39:42,800 Moore: WELL, NEWTON, 861 00:39:42,833 --> 00:39:45,200 WHEN HE LAUNCHED HIMSELF AT A SUBJECT, 862 00:39:45,233 --> 00:39:47,333 WHETHER IT WAS OPTICS OR MECHANICS 863 00:39:47,367 --> 00:39:49,067 OR, IN THIS CASE, ALCHEMY, 864 00:39:49,100 --> 00:39:51,833 HE WOULD TYPICALLY BEGIN TO TAKE NOTES ON IT, 865 00:39:51,867 --> 00:39:52,967 AND HE WOULD READ 866 00:39:53,067 --> 00:39:55,233 AS MUCH AS HE COULD AROUND A TOPIC. 867 00:39:55,267 --> 00:39:57,400 AND THAT'S WHAT HE'S DOING HERE. 868 00:39:57,433 --> 00:40:00,800 THESE ARE NEWTON'S NOTES OF PREVIOUS ALCHEMICAL AUTHORS. 869 00:40:00,833 --> 00:40:04,433 AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE WRITTEN IN LATIN. 870 00:40:04,467 --> 00:40:05,900 NEWTON WOULD HAVE USED THAT. 871 00:40:05,933 --> 00:40:08,367 THE PRINCIPIA MANUSCRIPT, A GREAT WORK OF SCIENCE, 872 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:09,767 IS A WORK IN LATIN. 873 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,033 SO, THIS IS ONE OF THE GREATEST SCIENTISTS OF ALL TIME, 874 00:40:13,067 --> 00:40:15,233 THE GRANDFATHER OF MODERN SCIENCE, 875 00:40:15,267 --> 00:40:17,433 AND HE HAD A KEEN INTEREST IN ALCHEMY. 876 00:40:17,467 --> 00:40:18,633 HE DID, YES. 877 00:40:18,667 --> 00:40:21,800 THE MEN OF THAT PERIOD WHO WERE INTERESTED IN SCIENCE 878 00:40:21,833 --> 00:40:24,800 WOULD HAVE CALLED THEMSELVES NATURAL PHILOSOPHERS, 879 00:40:24,833 --> 00:40:27,400 AND THEY WERE INTERESTED IN EVERYTHING, 880 00:40:27,433 --> 00:40:30,733 NOT JUST WHAT WE WOULD THINK OF AS BEING SCIENCE NOW. 881 00:40:30,767 --> 00:40:34,900 Felix: NEWTON WAS A VERY SECRETIVE MAN. 882 00:40:34,933 --> 00:40:38,567 BUT, YES, HE WAS DEFINITELY AN ALCHEMIST. 883 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,967 BUT I THINK HE, FOR WANT OF A BETTER WORD, 884 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,933 TRANSMUTED INTO SOMETHING ELSE. 885 00:40:43,967 --> 00:40:46,600 A SCIENTIST AND A CHEMIST. 886 00:40:46,633 --> 00:40:48,100 WHY DO WE STILL HAVE, THOUGH, 887 00:40:48,133 --> 00:40:49,900 THIS GREAT FASCINATION WITH ALCHEMY? 888 00:40:49,933 --> 00:40:51,100 WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS? 889 00:40:51,133 --> 00:40:53,000 I THINK IT'S THE SECRECY SURROUNDING IT. 890 00:40:53,033 --> 00:40:54,467 I MEAN, ALCHEMY HAD... 891 00:40:54,500 --> 00:40:56,933 ALCHEMISTS HAD ONE OR TWO SUCCESSES. 892 00:40:56,967 --> 00:40:58,767 I MEAN, THE DISCOVERY OF PHOSPHOROUS 893 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,533 WAS BY AN ALCHEMIST ABOUT THIS PERIOD. 894 00:41:01,567 --> 00:41:03,567 BUT THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. 895 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:08,667 SECRET KNOWLEDGE IS FASCINATING IN WHATEVER FORM IT COMES IN. 896 00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:12,833 SCIENCE, THOUGH, IS HOW WE UNDERSTAND THE UNIVERSE. 897 00:41:12,867 --> 00:41:15,100 WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE PHILOSOPHER'S STONE? 898 00:41:15,133 --> 00:41:16,133 IT'S A NICE STORY. 899 00:41:16,167 --> 00:41:18,233 AND IT'S IN "HARRY POTTER," OF COURSE, 900 00:41:18,267 --> 00:41:19,767 BUT THAT'S AS GOOD AS IT GETS. 901 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,167 [ LAUGHS ] 902 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,767 Narrator: SO, WHAT'S THE TRUTH ABOUT ALCHEMY? 903 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,167 WAS IT REALLY A DARK ART 904 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,567 PRACTICED BY A SMALL CABAL OF INITIATES 905 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:28,933 DOWN THROUGH THE AGES? 906 00:41:28,967 --> 00:41:32,066 WAS THE PHILOSOPHER'S STONE A MAGIC HOLY GRAIL 907 00:41:32,067 --> 00:41:33,933 THAT COULD CONFER IMMORTALITY 908 00:41:33,967 --> 00:41:36,500 ON THOSE WHO WERE ABLE TO ACHIEVE IT? 909 00:41:36,533 --> 00:41:38,967 AND DID MEN LIKE DEE, FLAMEL, AND NEWTON 910 00:41:39,067 --> 00:41:41,167 HAVE A HAND IN DESIGNING BUILDINGS, 911 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,066 EVEN WHOLE CITIES, 912 00:41:43,067 --> 00:41:46,100 ALONG SACRED, GEOMETRIC, AND CABALISTIC LINES? 913 00:42:12,733 --> 00:42:16,867 I THINK THAT THE FUNCTION THAT ALCHEMISTS PROVIDED 914 00:42:16,900 --> 00:42:19,767 IS NOW FAR OBSOLETE. 915 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:24,700 THEY WERE THE SHAMANS OF THEIR DAY 916 00:42:24,733 --> 00:42:27,800 THAT BRIDGED OUR REALM WITH OTHERS. 917 00:42:27,833 --> 00:42:31,433 THEY WERE THE FIRST SCIENTISTS AND CHEMISTS 918 00:42:31,467 --> 00:42:33,700 WHO EXPLORED WITH THINGS THAT, TODAY, 919 00:42:33,733 --> 00:42:36,067 ARE INTERESTING BUT RELATIVELY MUNDANE. 920 00:42:36,100 --> 00:42:41,433 MANY OF THEM, SUCH AS EDWARD KELLY, FOR INSTANCE, 921 00:42:41,467 --> 00:42:46,800 ARE NOW RENDERED SIMPLY PRACTITIONERS OF HOCUS POCUS. 922 00:42:46,833 --> 00:42:50,100 TODAY, IN A WORLD OF FACEBOOK WHERE EVERYONE'S A LIGHT WORKER 923 00:42:50,133 --> 00:42:53,066 AND HAS ACCESS TO THE WISDOM OF THE AGES ON THE INTERNET, 924 00:42:53,067 --> 00:42:58,200 THE ROLE OF THE ALCHEMIST HAS CLEARLY BEEN MADE OBSOLETE. 925 00:42:58,233 --> 00:43:00,100 Felix: I'M CONVINCED 926 00:43:00,133 --> 00:43:02,933 THAT ALCHEMY WAS THE FOREFATHER OF MODERN CHEMISTRY. 927 00:43:02,967 --> 00:43:06,867 THESE GUYS WERE TREATED WITH A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DISRESPECT. 928 00:43:06,900 --> 00:43:09,600 THEY WERE REFERRED TO AS QUACK DOCTORS. 929 00:43:09,633 --> 00:43:13,967 ONE PHRASE THAT I USE FREQUENTLY... 930 00:43:14,067 --> 00:43:17,333 TODAY'S MAGIC WILL BE TOMORROW'S SCIENCE. 931 00:43:17,367 --> 00:43:21,167 AND THESE GUYS IN THOSE DAYS WERE TREATED AS MAGICIANS. 932 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,833 SOME OF THE STUFF THEY GOT WAS WRONG. 933 00:43:23,867 --> 00:43:26,467 SOME OF THE STUFF THEY GOT WAS RIGHT. 934 00:43:26,500 --> 00:43:31,167 BUT IT WAS CERTAINLY THE BASIS OF MODERN-DAY CHEMISTRY, 935 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,200 MEDICINE, AND, I THINK, MODERN SCIENCE. 936 00:43:34,233 --> 00:43:36,633 MANY THINGS ARE BEING DONE IN OUR LABORATORIES 937 00:43:36,667 --> 00:43:37,767 WHICH NOBODY... 938 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,233 ANYBODY LISTENING TO THIS PROGRAM 939 00:43:39,267 --> 00:43:40,733 WILL KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT, 940 00:43:40,767 --> 00:43:41,933 AND FOR A LONG TIME TO COME. 941 00:43:41,967 --> 00:43:45,066 KNOWLEDGE IS DANGEROUS. KNOWLEDGE IS POWER. 942 00:43:45,067 --> 00:43:49,067 AND POWER-TRIPPERS LIKE NEWTON KNOW THAT PARTICULARLY WELL. 943 00:43:53,167 --> 00:43:55,300 Narrator: AFTER HIS DEATH, 944 00:43:55,333 --> 00:43:58,267 SIR ISAAC NEWTON'S PRIVATE ALCHEMICAL PAPERS 945 00:43:58,300 --> 00:44:00,400 WERE FOUND BY THE ROYAL SOCIETY. 946 00:44:00,433 --> 00:44:03,100 AMONG THEM WAS A HANDWRITTEN LETTER 947 00:44:03,133 --> 00:44:06,633 TO HIS FRIEND AND FELLOW ALCHEMIST ROBERT BOYLE, 948 00:44:06,667 --> 00:44:10,133 IN WHICH HE WARNED HIM TO MAINTAIN A HIGH SILENCE 949 00:44:10,167 --> 00:44:12,800 ABOUT THE MYSTICAL KNOWLEDGE THEY HAD LEARNED. 950 00:44:12,833 --> 00:44:16,167 "IT CANNOT BE COMMUNICATED," SAID NEWTON, 951 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,833 "WITHOUT CAUSING IMMENSE DAMAGE TO THE WORLD." 952 00:44:19,867 --> 00:44:22,500 MAKE OF THAT WHAT YOU WILL. 73568

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