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I grew up in Villa Park, Illinois, 12 00:00:57,792 --> 00:01:01,375 was the only black girl on an all-white cheerleading squad, so I had to learn 13 00:01:01,457 --> 00:01:04,250 how to deal with white people. 14 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,040 But I want the white folks to really understand out there, 15 00:01:08,125 --> 00:01:09,709 not all of us, but some of us, 16 00:01:09,792 --> 00:01:11,375 are really doing as much as we can. 17 00:01:11,457 --> 00:01:14,625 And we can't help but get pissed off when we see situations 18 00:01:14,709 --> 00:01:17,332 where it's clear the black life didn't matter. 19 00:01:17,417 --> 00:01:21,709 Because in the news that we've seen as of late, 20 00:01:21,792 --> 00:01:27,207 you could stand there, surrender to the cops, and still be killed. 21 00:01:27,792 --> 00:01:29,834 ♪ ♪ 22 00:01:37,709 --> 00:01:41,125 Sheriff's Deputy: On Friday, July 10, Ms. Bland was stopped 23 00:01:41,207 --> 00:01:43,875 by the Texas Department of Public Safety 24 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,165 for a traffic infraction. 25 00:01:48,332 --> 00:01:52,500 The state trooper arrested Bland for assault of a public servant, 26 00:01:52,582 --> 00:01:56,290 then transported Ms. Bland to the Waller County jail. 27 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,250 On Monday, July 13, at 8:58 a.m. 28 00:02:04,332 --> 00:02:07,250 jailers went to cell 95 29 00:02:07,332 --> 00:02:12,500 and observed Ms. Bland hanging from her privacy partition in her cell. 30 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,500 The Harris County of Texas medical examiner's office 31 00:02:17,582 --> 00:02:21,000 listed the manner of death as a suicide. 32 00:02:22,375 --> 00:02:26,000 However, there may be some questions that cannot be answered, 33 00:02:26,082 --> 00:02:29,582 since this investigation is yet to be completed. 34 00:02:34,500 --> 00:02:36,542 Shanté Needham: Ooh, Lord have mercy. 35 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,040 Okay. 36 00:02:41,082 --> 00:02:42,500 Ooh! 37 00:02:44,959 --> 00:02:47,082 Sharon Cooper: Oh, here we go. Here we go. 38 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,082 Aw, man. It looks better in person. 39 00:02:53,750 --> 00:02:55,125 Wow. 40 00:02:58,250 --> 00:03:00,000 Shanté: Hey, girl! 41 00:03:00,082 --> 00:03:02,582 Sharon: I just can't get over, like, how surreal it looks, you know? 42 00:03:08,582 --> 00:03:10,082 Okay, sister. 43 00:03:10,500 --> 00:03:13,582 Losing you has been the hardest thing that... 44 00:03:14,417 --> 00:03:20,750 I thought I would ever have to go through, but I feel like it's made me a stronger person. 45 00:03:21,667 --> 00:03:26,417 So this is our letter that we wrote to the attorney general. 46 00:03:26,917 --> 00:03:33,082 And it says, "My name is Sharon Cooper, and I am Sandra Bland's sister. 47 00:03:33,165 --> 00:03:37,040 "My sister Sandra, affectionately known as Sandy, 48 00:03:37,125 --> 00:03:42,125 "was a vibrant, outspoken, and intelligent 28-year-old who was absolutely full of life. 49 00:03:42,750 --> 00:03:45,417 "Since Sandra's death, we have been in mourning, 50 00:03:45,500 --> 00:03:49,000 "but candidly, our ability to mourn has been paralyzed 51 00:03:49,082 --> 00:03:53,500 "by the unusual and unsettling circumstances surrounding her death. 52 00:03:53,582 --> 00:03:55,625 That is why I am writing to you." 53 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,000 Shanté: You've got a lot of people that's 54 00:03:59,082 --> 00:04:01,375 down here standing with you and us. 55 00:04:01,457 --> 00:04:03,709 People you know, people you don't know. 56 00:04:03,792 --> 00:04:06,040 A lot of people who you don't know. 57 00:04:06,750 --> 00:04:09,207 Sharon: I don't think Officer Encinia knew whose you were 58 00:04:09,290 --> 00:04:12,125 and who you belong to when he pulled you over. 59 00:04:12,875 --> 00:04:14,542 Well, each day, 60 00:04:15,332 --> 00:04:18,125 you let him know what a mistake he made. 61 00:04:18,834 --> 00:04:20,875 We're going to get to the bottom of it. 62 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,959 No matter how long it takes. 63 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,000 And we gonna change history, just like you wanted to. 64 00:04:30,625 --> 00:04:33,332 An innocent daughter's life was snatched, 65 00:04:33,417 --> 00:04:35,625 in a building right behind us. 66 00:04:36,165 --> 00:04:39,040 This is no longer just a Ferguson issue. 67 00:04:39,125 --> 00:04:40,959 It is not just a Baltimore issue. 68 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:42,582 (protesters chanting) 69 00:04:42,667 --> 00:04:45,165 This is an American issue. 70 00:04:45,582 --> 00:04:48,290 And we will not go away until it is answered. 71 00:04:48,375 --> 00:04:51,457 (protesters chanting) 72 00:04:51,542 --> 00:04:53,332 -Protesters: Say her name! -Sandra Bland! 73 00:04:53,417 --> 00:04:55,040 - Say her name! -Sandra Bland! 74 00:04:55,125 --> 00:04:56,582 - Say her name! -Sandra Bland! 75 00:04:56,667 --> 00:04:57,875 Won't you say her name! 76 00:04:57,959 --> 00:05:00,500 Say her name! Say her name! Say her name! 77 00:05:00,583 --> 00:05:02,500 Say her name! Say her name! Say her name! 78 00:05:02,583 --> 00:05:03,875 (chanting fades) 79 00:05:11,541 --> 00:05:13,583 ♪ ♪ 80 00:05:17,082 --> 00:05:21,332 Geneva Reed-Veal: The trip Sandy and I took over the Fourth of July weekend. 81 00:05:23,417 --> 00:05:25,582 She made all of this music for Mom... 82 00:05:28,750 --> 00:05:32,542 to sit in the car, and dance, laugh, 83 00:05:32,625 --> 00:05:34,250 sing... 84 00:05:35,375 --> 00:05:37,875 and when she was driving, 85 00:05:37,959 --> 00:05:41,582 Sandy kept talking about going back to Texas. 86 00:05:42,750 --> 00:05:46,582 She said, "Now I know what I'm supposed to be doing." 87 00:05:48,165 --> 00:05:52,582 She talked about this almost the whole ride. 88 00:05:55,582 --> 00:06:00,165 She kept saying, "My purpose is to go back to Texas, 89 00:06:00,250 --> 00:06:03,959 and to stop all of the injustices against blacks." 90 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,083 ♪ ♪ 91 00:06:10,916 --> 00:06:15,040 Sandy called me on July 11... 92 00:06:16,290 --> 00:06:19,667 to let me know that she had been arrested. 93 00:06:20,709 --> 00:06:23,207 I said, "What are you in jail for?" 94 00:06:23,290 --> 00:06:25,917 She said, "You know, I really don't know." 95 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:31,375 And she said, "My arm, my arm is hurting really bad." 96 00:06:32,165 --> 00:06:36,040 And I could hear her talking to the guards in the background. 97 00:06:36,125 --> 00:06:38,500 Then she said, "I'll call you back." 98 00:06:39,582 --> 00:06:42,040 And she hung up the phone, 99 00:06:42,125 --> 00:06:44,457 and she never called back. 100 00:06:47,792 --> 00:06:50,457 I wouldn't wish this hurt on anyone. 101 00:06:51,625 --> 00:06:53,417 Anyone. 102 00:06:59,250 --> 00:07:01,333 (chattering) 103 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,959 R. Glenn Smith: Monday morning, when Ms. Bland was found in her cell, 104 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:14,916 and the ambulance and medical help was being called, 105 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:16,667 then I was notified. 106 00:07:18,625 --> 00:07:21,165 When I walked back to the cell, 107 00:07:21,250 --> 00:07:24,875 the justice of the peace was already here. 108 00:07:24,959 --> 00:07:27,000 ♪ ♪ 109 00:07:28,582 --> 00:07:32,667 It's a devastating call... to the Texas sheriff. 110 00:07:32,750 --> 00:07:35,290 That's the last thing we want 111 00:07:35,375 --> 00:07:40,290 in our jail is not for everybody to come in here 112 00:07:40,375 --> 00:07:45,917 and leave here the same way they come in, if not healthier. 113 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,875 ♪ ♪ 114 00:07:52,375 --> 00:07:55,165 Elton Mathis: I got a phone call from a friend of mine 115 00:07:55,250 --> 00:07:57,792 who's in the media in Houston. 116 00:07:57,875 --> 00:08:02,416 And he said, "Elton, what's going on with this hanging at the jail?" 117 00:08:02,500 --> 00:08:06,458 And I said, "Well. We had a hanging at the jail. 118 00:08:06,541 --> 00:08:09,165 "As far as I know, the Texas Rangers are handling it, 119 00:08:09,250 --> 00:08:11,583 and that's about all I know." 120 00:08:12,959 --> 00:08:16,917 "They'll give me a report when they finish it." 121 00:08:19,207 --> 00:08:21,000 It got a lot stranger. 122 00:08:21,082 --> 00:08:24,417 It was either that afternoon or the next morning, 123 00:08:24,500 --> 00:08:27,457 uh, everything hit the proverbial fan. 124 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,542 Newswoman: Police say Bland was arrested for resisting arrest 125 00:08:45,625 --> 00:08:49,125 and assaulting an officer, but so far the only video of the incident 126 00:08:49,207 --> 00:08:51,709 shows Bland on the ground. 127 00:08:52,417 --> 00:08:54,542 Sharon: I don't believe I saw the bystander video 128 00:08:54,625 --> 00:08:56,667 until it was released to the public, 129 00:08:56,750 --> 00:08:58,667 which was Tuesday. 130 00:08:58,750 --> 00:09:03,332 I couldn't understand why she was on the ground with this man's knee in her back. 131 00:09:03,417 --> 00:09:04,958 I could not understand that. 132 00:09:05,542 --> 00:09:08,958 As a sister, my heart, it hurts. 133 00:09:38,834 --> 00:09:41,542 Sharon: So, of course, when the bystander video comes out, 134 00:09:41,625 --> 00:09:45,082 now I have a ton of questions because my mind goes to, 135 00:09:45,165 --> 00:09:48,582 okay, what happened before all of that 136 00:09:48,667 --> 00:09:51,165 to get her to the point where she's down on the ground... 137 00:09:52,082 --> 00:09:55,332 with this guy towering over her. 138 00:09:56,457 --> 00:10:01,000 And how do you go from this very strong woman 139 00:10:01,082 --> 00:10:05,207 to dead in jail by alleged suicide. 140 00:10:15,417 --> 00:10:18,082 Cannon Lambert: He got a hundred percent on that other test, 141 00:10:18,166 --> 00:10:20,457 so let him do what he-- he took care of it. 142 00:10:20,542 --> 00:10:22,833 Girl: Dad, where's the sugar? 143 00:10:24,708 --> 00:10:27,917 I'll see what happens. I'll let you know when she-- when he lets me know. 144 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,542 He said that he's going to talk to her. 145 00:10:29,625 --> 00:10:32,040 I love you. Drive safely. 146 00:10:35,792 --> 00:10:39,082 (woman speaking indistinctly over radio) 147 00:10:40,332 --> 00:10:42,165 Cannon: My wife and I were in the car, 148 00:10:42,250 --> 00:10:45,250 and my wife told me Sandy Bland had passed, 149 00:10:45,332 --> 00:10:49,457 and I said, "Sandy Bland? Show me a picture of who you're talking about." 150 00:10:49,542 --> 00:10:51,332 (radio broadcast continues) 151 00:10:51,417 --> 00:10:53,709 She showed me a picture of Sandy, 152 00:10:53,792 --> 00:10:56,040 and I mean, you know, your heart kind of stops 153 00:10:56,125 --> 00:10:58,457 and you're... you're in shock. 154 00:10:58,542 --> 00:11:00,332 ♪ ♪ 155 00:11:00,417 --> 00:11:02,582 Sandy got rear-ended by a motorcycle 156 00:11:02,667 --> 00:11:06,125 on the 5th of April, 2015, 157 00:11:06,207 --> 00:11:09,041 and she contacted my office. 158 00:11:09,792 --> 00:11:12,250 She had a big personality, 159 00:11:12,332 --> 00:11:15,082 and it was a big, bright personality. 160 00:11:16,417 --> 00:11:18,750 See, I'm assessing people when I talk to them, 161 00:11:18,833 --> 00:11:21,958 trying to figure out what type of witness they're going to be. 162 00:11:22,041 --> 00:11:25,250 Is she going to be equipped to think on her feet? She was. 163 00:11:27,792 --> 00:11:30,750 Sandy died on the 13th of July. 164 00:11:31,250 --> 00:11:35,165 And from that next morning when I got a phone call from the family 165 00:11:35,250 --> 00:11:37,625 asking whether or not we could get involved, 166 00:11:37,709 --> 00:11:40,959 I mean, uh, you felt compelled. 167 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:42,542 ♪ ♪ 168 00:11:42,625 --> 00:11:44,750 (distant sirens wailing) 169 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,207 On Friday, we got down to Texas, 170 00:11:53,290 --> 00:11:56,332 and it's seven o'clock at night. 171 00:11:56,417 --> 00:11:59,457 -I'm about to pass out 'cause I'm so hungry. -I know, baby. I know. 172 00:11:59,542 --> 00:12:02,166 Geneva: We were told, once you get here, 173 00:12:02,250 --> 00:12:04,417 it will be proven without a doubt. 174 00:12:04,500 --> 00:12:06,792 You'll be able to see... 175 00:12:07,667 --> 00:12:09,958 that she... 176 00:12:10,792 --> 00:12:14,291 contributed in her own... death. 177 00:12:16,375 --> 00:12:19,457 Cannon: The Texas Rangers, they walked us through footage, 178 00:12:19,542 --> 00:12:23,500 so they claimed, anyway, of the jail. 179 00:12:25,833 --> 00:12:29,792 We were looking, trying to see where Sandy was. 180 00:12:31,375 --> 00:12:33,667 I didn't see her ever. 181 00:12:35,792 --> 00:12:38,582 Sharon: The video that we viewed when we went down, 182 00:12:38,667 --> 00:12:42,792 it was only for the morning of Monday, July 13th. 183 00:12:43,207 --> 00:12:46,000 There's no time stamps, there's no dates. 184 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,917 Her cell was all the way in the back corner. 185 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,500 She was in cell number 95. 186 00:12:54,250 --> 00:12:56,750 Shanté: The way they choose to phrase it is, 187 00:12:56,834 --> 00:13:00,125 where she was did not have cameras. 188 00:13:00,833 --> 00:13:03,332 But I would think that that would be strange. 189 00:13:03,417 --> 00:13:07,332 Then how are you monitoring your inmates? 190 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,708 Why was she in a cell by herself? 191 00:13:13,542 --> 00:13:16,041 That's a big cell for one person. 192 00:13:17,041 --> 00:13:19,792 And when they were wheeling the gurney out, 193 00:13:19,875 --> 00:13:23,542 I went, "Whoa, she's going to be on the gurney, right?" 194 00:13:23,625 --> 00:13:26,375 Oh, no. She wasn't on the gurney. 195 00:13:27,875 --> 00:13:30,000 She was not on the gurney. 196 00:13:33,417 --> 00:13:36,834 Cannon: And then the lead investigator for the Texas Rangers, 197 00:13:36,917 --> 00:13:41,375 Shane Ellison, had told us that specifically Sandy made upwards of 21 phone calls. 198 00:13:41,457 --> 00:13:43,250 Yet they tell us they don't know 199 00:13:43,332 --> 00:13:45,834 what phones she used to make these 21 calls. 200 00:13:45,917 --> 00:13:47,709 That doesn't make sense to me. 201 00:13:47,792 --> 00:13:49,417 If you know she made 21 calls, 202 00:13:49,500 --> 00:13:53,542 then you've got to know what phones she used to make those calls. 203 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,667 And then he also said that when he was called 204 00:13:57,750 --> 00:14:02,417 that that triggered a crime investigation, a criminal investigation. 205 00:14:03,250 --> 00:14:05,917 So I'm thinking that we're going to see the documentation 206 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,542 by way of photographs. 207 00:14:07,625 --> 00:14:11,375 They showed us some photographs of her body in the cell. 208 00:14:11,457 --> 00:14:15,291 They did not have any photographs that depicted her hanging, 209 00:14:15,375 --> 00:14:18,708 and we were told explicitly that they don't exist. 210 00:14:21,291 --> 00:14:24,041 And she was hung from a trash bag. 211 00:14:24,958 --> 00:14:27,291 The trash bag is the ligature. 212 00:14:28,625 --> 00:14:30,000 Sharon: I thought, where did this woman 213 00:14:30,082 --> 00:14:31,917 even get a plastic bag from? 214 00:14:34,250 --> 00:14:36,040 When you're booking an inmate, 215 00:14:36,125 --> 00:14:39,332 you're stripping them of anything that would put them in a position 216 00:14:39,417 --> 00:14:41,000 to harm themselves. 217 00:14:41,082 --> 00:14:42,834 You're stripping them of their shoestrings. 218 00:14:42,917 --> 00:14:44,709 You're stripping them of their belt. 219 00:14:44,792 --> 00:14:47,125 You're stripping them of their earrings. 220 00:14:49,125 --> 00:14:52,792 You have a 30-gallon trash can, 221 00:14:52,875 --> 00:14:55,040 in an inmate's cell, 222 00:14:55,125 --> 00:14:58,625 that gives them access to a plastic bag. 223 00:15:01,332 --> 00:15:05,582 Shanté: If she was in as much pain as she says she was in, 224 00:15:06,250 --> 00:15:10,250 I just don't see how she could have tied that perfect, 225 00:15:10,332 --> 00:15:13,082 very perfect noose. 226 00:15:14,958 --> 00:15:17,917 Sharon: I know that we were grieving, but... 227 00:15:18,041 --> 00:15:19,958 we are a family of note-takers. 228 00:15:20,041 --> 00:15:24,125 We take notes of things that were being told to us that just didn't sound right. 229 00:15:24,207 --> 00:15:26,332 ♪ ♪ 230 00:15:32,875 --> 00:15:36,332 We view the dashcam video on the 21st, the day before we fly her home, 231 00:15:36,417 --> 00:15:38,332 so now I've got a ton of questions. 232 00:15:38,417 --> 00:15:40,457 Oh, I have a slew of questions, right? 233 00:15:40,542 --> 00:15:42,667 ♪ ♪ 234 00:15:52,290 --> 00:15:54,500 (indistinct police radio chatter) 235 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,290 -Sandra: For what? -Encinia: ...send me another unit. 236 00:18:28,333 --> 00:18:32,000 I'm sitting, I'm watching all of these violations occur. 237 00:18:32,083 --> 00:18:35,040 -Sandra: Let's do this. -Yeah, we're going to. 238 00:18:35,125 --> 00:18:36,834 Cannon: That man slapped her. 239 00:18:36,916 --> 00:18:38,750 He slapped her, you can hear it. 240 00:18:38,834 --> 00:18:40,791 -Encinia: We're going to. -(slaps) 241 00:18:40,875 --> 00:18:44,000 Cannon: He reaches into the car, and you hear a smack, 242 00:18:44,083 --> 00:18:47,208 and then you see her head pulling away from him. 243 00:18:49,333 --> 00:18:52,875 The reason that the slap is important is because it's a battery. 244 00:18:57,916 --> 00:19:00,416 When she's recording him, "Put your phone down." 245 00:19:00,500 --> 00:19:03,375 "I have the right to record. This is my property." 246 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,165 Cannon: You tell her to turn around, 247 00:19:23,250 --> 00:19:24,834 she doesn't want to turn around. 248 00:19:24,916 --> 00:19:26,250 She says, "Why do I have to turn around?" two or three times, 249 00:19:26,333 --> 00:19:28,375 but ultimately turns around on her own. 250 00:20:12,750 --> 00:20:14,165 Encinia: Stop it! 251 00:20:15,165 --> 00:20:19,416 Sharon: I felt like, oh, my gosh, if she was treated that way, 252 00:20:19,500 --> 00:20:21,583 in public, cars are riding by, 253 00:20:21,666 --> 00:20:24,458 she's treated that way, on the road... 254 00:20:25,625 --> 00:20:27,625 what was going on in the jail? 255 00:20:29,709 --> 00:20:32,250 What was going on in there? 256 00:20:37,458 --> 00:20:41,583 Shanté: When Sandy called me on Saturday, 257 00:20:42,290 --> 00:20:45,666 she told me that her bond was $500. 258 00:20:45,750 --> 00:20:48,541 And I told her that I had $100 259 00:20:48,625 --> 00:20:50,916 and I would work on getting the rest for her. 260 00:20:52,500 --> 00:20:55,000 She knows that I'm gonna come through for her. 261 00:20:55,709 --> 00:20:58,666 I just don't see her taking her own life. 262 00:20:58,750 --> 00:21:00,583 I just don't see it. 263 00:21:00,666 --> 00:21:02,709 ♪ ♪ 264 00:21:03,916 --> 00:21:06,834 Cannon: Until we have concrete answers, 265 00:21:06,916 --> 00:21:08,834 as to the time of her death, 266 00:21:08,916 --> 00:21:13,541 and whether or not that death could have been caused, 267 00:21:13,625 --> 00:21:16,750 uh, by someone other than her, 268 00:21:16,834 --> 00:21:19,791 until we have answers to those sorts of questions, 269 00:21:19,875 --> 00:21:22,333 all options are on the table, they have to be. 270 00:21:25,333 --> 00:21:28,666 Anytime there's a jail hanging, a jail death, 271 00:21:28,750 --> 00:21:30,583 that's treated as a homicide. 272 00:21:30,666 --> 00:21:32,666 We're still waiting for a hard copy 273 00:21:32,750 --> 00:21:35,290 of the Harris County medical examiner's autopsy, 274 00:21:35,375 --> 00:21:38,959 and toxicology will probably be delayed about two weeks. 275 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,834 At this point, this is still fresh. 276 00:21:40,916 --> 00:21:42,791 We're trying to respect the family and realize 277 00:21:42,875 --> 00:21:45,500 that they have a funeral that they need to plan. 278 00:21:45,583 --> 00:21:49,709 Ms. Bland's mother is anxious to get her daughter's body back to Illinois. 279 00:21:50,916 --> 00:21:52,959 Dan Patrick: As the lieutenant governor of Texas, 280 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:58,000 yes, I want to be sure, we overturned every stone and looked at every fact. 281 00:21:58,083 --> 00:22:01,125 That's important for everyone, but it's most important for that family. 282 00:22:01,208 --> 00:22:04,709 -That's right. -I want that family, when they go back to Chicago... 283 00:22:05,333 --> 00:22:10,834 for when this is resolved, that they believe, they had justice in Texas. 284 00:22:19,250 --> 00:22:21,750 ♪ ♪ 285 00:22:32,666 --> 00:22:36,208 Geneva: Riding back on a plane... 286 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:42,625 I sent her out of here on four wheels, 287 00:22:44,208 --> 00:22:46,458 and now she's coming back, 288 00:22:47,416 --> 00:22:49,916 under the plane, with the cargo. 289 00:22:53,333 --> 00:22:56,916 Like these planes, she was ascending. 290 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,083 She was going, going, 291 00:22:59,165 --> 00:23:02,791 and she got to a certain leve, plateaued, 292 00:23:02,875 --> 00:23:05,083 and then she was gone. 293 00:23:06,458 --> 00:23:07,750 (camera clicks) 294 00:23:07,834 --> 00:23:10,000 Sandra: I am on the steps, if you can see behind me, 295 00:23:10,083 --> 00:23:11,541 of the DuSable Museum. 296 00:23:11,625 --> 00:23:14,208 I'm getting ready to walk in, but it's very, very interesting 297 00:23:14,290 --> 00:23:16,791 and amazing to know how much black history 298 00:23:16,875 --> 00:23:20,040 is truly right here in our own city. 299 00:23:20,125 --> 00:23:22,458 (camera clicking) 300 00:23:22,541 --> 00:23:26,666 Chicago was founded by a man of color: 301 00:23:26,750 --> 00:23:28,333 DuSable. 302 00:23:28,416 --> 00:23:31,500 There needs to be a statue of that man in the heart of downtown. 303 00:23:32,666 --> 00:23:36,666 The first open-heart surgery, performed by Daniel Hale Williams. 304 00:23:36,750 --> 00:23:40,541 That was right on the south side of Chicago at Provident Hospital. 305 00:23:40,625 --> 00:23:43,333 Y'all, our history is so rich and deep, 306 00:23:43,416 --> 00:23:45,916 but it is up to us to find it. 307 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,125 ♪ ♪ 308 00:23:49,875 --> 00:23:52,208 Sharon: Sandy's number four in the pack. 309 00:23:53,834 --> 00:23:56,625 And Sandy was a helper. 310 00:23:56,709 --> 00:23:58,834 ♪ ♪ 311 00:24:00,125 --> 00:24:02,000 What about like this? 312 00:24:02,666 --> 00:24:04,834 Sharon: Growing up, we didn't have a lot of money. 313 00:24:04,916 --> 00:24:07,083 Can you say, "Please, Mommy, please?" 314 00:24:07,165 --> 00:24:10,916 Sharon: My mom had my first sister when she was 15, and... 315 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,625 she had all of us by the time she was 25. 316 00:24:13,709 --> 00:24:16,583 And then if I get a chance to taste it, I'll taste it. 317 00:24:17,125 --> 00:24:19,750 Shanté: My mother was very strict about education. 318 00:24:20,165 --> 00:24:24,000 If we were sick, we had to go to school, it didn't matter. 319 00:24:24,083 --> 00:24:26,416 Geneva: I was called "The Warden." 320 00:24:26,500 --> 00:24:28,500 I'm your mom. 321 00:24:28,583 --> 00:24:32,500 I'm not your schoolmate. 322 00:24:33,625 --> 00:24:37,040 But I don't remember Sandy accepting "no." 323 00:24:42,834 --> 00:24:44,916 Sharon: She knew she wanted to go to college. 324 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,416 The HBCUs came to the Chicago-land area, 325 00:24:47,500 --> 00:24:50,165 the Historically Black Collegs and Universities. 326 00:24:50,250 --> 00:24:52,625 And she happened upon Prairie View, 327 00:24:53,375 --> 00:24:56,290 and they gave her a scholarship, a band scholarship. 328 00:24:56,375 --> 00:24:58,541 ♪ ♪ 329 00:24:59,165 --> 00:25:03,709 It's a big deal to e a part of a band at an African-American institution. 330 00:25:04,750 --> 00:25:10,125 But it also meant doing something that nobody in this family ever did, 331 00:25:10,208 --> 00:25:11,916 which was leave home, 332 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:17,250 and go miles away from this very close-knit family... 333 00:25:18,290 --> 00:25:20,125 to Texas. 334 00:25:25,083 --> 00:25:27,125 ♪ ♪ 335 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,208 (crossing alarm clanging) 336 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,375 (train whistle blows) 337 00:25:40,416 --> 00:25:43,416 Smith: We're right on the west side of Houston. 338 00:25:44,375 --> 00:25:49,250 And most of our business here is farming, but... 339 00:25:49,333 --> 00:25:55,125 here at the sheriff's office, one of our primary focuses is obviously the jail. 340 00:25:57,165 --> 00:26:01,500 A county jail, we're not here for punishment. 341 00:26:01,583 --> 00:26:05,208 We're here to hold you till you go to court, 342 00:26:05,290 --> 00:26:08,125 and then decide what your punishment is. 343 00:26:13,165 --> 00:26:17,834 We are that guardian, that, "Okay, we gotta get 'em through this." 344 00:26:17,916 --> 00:26:20,000 (engine starts) 345 00:26:21,290 --> 00:26:26,375 Lavaughn Mosley: Sheriff Glenn Smith used to be chief of police in Hempstead. 346 00:26:27,125 --> 00:26:32,040 Chief Smith had complaints of racial intimidation. 347 00:26:33,500 --> 00:26:35,458 They reprimanded him, 348 00:26:35,541 --> 00:26:37,458 they sent him to sensitivity training, 349 00:26:37,541 --> 00:26:41,750 and in spite of all of that, he continued to get reports. 350 00:26:41,834 --> 00:26:47,125 But, eventuall, he won the election to be the sheriff of Waller County. 351 00:26:48,625 --> 00:26:50,083 Trooper: Taking a lot of classes? 352 00:26:50,165 --> 00:26:51,791 LaToya Smith: Prairie View is over-policed. 353 00:26:51,875 --> 00:26:53,416 Trooper: Here's a copy of the warning. 354 00:26:53,500 --> 00:26:55,916 LaToya: You are policed by university campus, 355 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,458 city of Prairie View, you're policed by the state troopers, 356 00:26:59,541 --> 00:27:02,834 you're policed by the sheriff, Waller County, 357 00:27:02,916 --> 00:27:04,541 and the constables. 358 00:27:04,625 --> 00:27:07,208 That's five people for this area. 359 00:27:07,290 --> 00:27:08,916 (sirens wailing) 360 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:14,625 This is the same county that me and Sandy marched to vote, in 2008. 361 00:27:14,709 --> 00:27:18,040 Because they didn't want the student population to vot, 362 00:27:18,125 --> 00:27:20,375 so we wouldn't offset their voting. 363 00:27:21,375 --> 00:27:24,666 We're in Texas. It's always been the good old boys system. 364 00:27:24,750 --> 00:27:27,208 Good old boys taking care of the good old boys. 365 00:27:29,290 --> 00:27:31,709 Smith: This county unfortunately goes all the way back 366 00:27:31,791 --> 00:27:35,500 to the Civil War, and it is a sensitive topic. 367 00:27:37,125 --> 00:27:39,916 Do we have prejudice in this county? 368 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,791 Yes. You know. 369 00:27:41,875 --> 00:27:44,666 Do we have it across the country? Yes. 370 00:27:46,125 --> 00:27:48,208 (horns honking) 371 00:27:55,875 --> 00:27:58,791 Sandy had come back from Prairie View initially, 372 00:27:58,875 --> 00:28:00,916 and was trying to kind of find herself... 373 00:28:01,583 --> 00:28:05,583 doing different jobs, trying to figure out where she fit. 374 00:28:06,875 --> 00:28:10,500 Hi, I'm Sandy, and I'm the administrative assistant here at Cook's. 375 00:28:10,583 --> 00:28:14,541 Today, I'm going to be talking to you about copolymers and polycarbonates. 376 00:28:14,625 --> 00:28:19,333 Marland: With Cooks, she found out that one of their biggest accounts 377 00:28:19,416 --> 00:28:21,959 was the penitentiary system. 378 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:26,165 And she said, "I can't work for a company that's doing this kind of stuff." 379 00:28:26,250 --> 00:28:30,165 Sandra: The softness of the material is important because it means it will not shatter 380 00:28:30,250 --> 00:28:33,040 and it cannot be easily sharpened into a weapon. 381 00:28:33,125 --> 00:28:35,000 You find so many meal delivery products... 382 00:28:35,083 --> 00:28:37,791 Sharon: It was in direct conflict with her morals, 383 00:28:37,875 --> 00:28:42,916 in terms of mass incarceration of disenfranchised people. 384 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,375 After that, she'd had a couple of job opportunities that she didn't get, 385 00:28:47,458 --> 00:28:49,375 even though she felt like she did great, so, 386 00:28:49,458 --> 00:28:51,834 that would frustrate her sometimes. 387 00:28:53,375 --> 00:28:56,000 Marland: You've spent four years at a university 388 00:28:56,083 --> 00:28:59,500 and wracked up all this debt and you can't find a darn job? 389 00:28:59,583 --> 00:29:01,709 In your field? 390 00:29:02,290 --> 00:29:04,416 You're not going to be too happy about that. 391 00:29:04,500 --> 00:29:06,500 ♪ ♪ 392 00:29:07,375 --> 00:29:10,208 Sandra: I've been really stressed out over these past couple of weeks, 393 00:29:10,290 --> 00:29:12,500 suffering from depression. 394 00:29:13,083 --> 00:29:17,416 And I started crying, and in the middle of my tears, 395 00:29:17,500 --> 00:29:21,500 in my head, I just heard the song, "God Blocked It." 396 00:29:22,625 --> 00:29:25,666 It let me know that everything was going to be okay. 397 00:29:25,750 --> 00:29:27,333 It will be okay. 398 00:29:27,416 --> 00:29:31,333 God let me know that you have got work to do. 399 00:29:33,834 --> 00:29:35,916 Sharon: I always knew what she was capable of, 400 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,541 which was harnessing her voic, being anchored in it. 401 00:29:38,625 --> 00:29:42,500 and doing something about things that she just felt wasn't right. 402 00:29:42,583 --> 00:29:44,666 -Man: Hold on, hold on, hold on. -Eric Garner: Don't touch me. 403 00:29:44,750 --> 00:29:46,541 -(bleeps) -(police shouting) 404 00:29:46,625 --> 00:29:49,375 Newsman: The most recent case of alleged police brutality here... 405 00:29:49,458 --> 00:29:51,959 ...their safety and don't feel that they can trust the police officer, 406 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,165 and then police officers... 407 00:29:53,250 --> 00:29:55,875 -(sirens wailing) -(shouting) 408 00:29:55,959 --> 00:29:57,625 (shouting) 409 00:29:57,709 --> 00:29:59,750 (gunfire) 410 00:30:02,625 --> 00:30:05,000 Hey, y'all. So... 411 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,709 I don't know where to look. 412 00:30:07,791 --> 00:30:12,125 And if I'm lookin' a little crazy, it's 'cause this is a test. Um... 413 00:30:12,500 --> 00:30:14,875 I wanted to make this video message 414 00:30:14,959 --> 00:30:19,000 and plant my seed of "Sandy Speaks." 415 00:30:19,083 --> 00:30:22,375 I know my head probably looks a little crazy right now, 416 00:30:22,791 --> 00:30:26,791 but, um... with the police brutality 417 00:30:26,875 --> 00:30:29,583 and all of the things that have been going on in the news 418 00:30:29,666 --> 00:30:33,583 somewhere along the way, we've forgotten about an important group, 419 00:30:33,666 --> 00:30:36,290 which are the kids. Um... 420 00:30:36,709 --> 00:30:38,165 I don't have any kids. 421 00:30:38,250 --> 00:30:41,959 I do have an eight-year-old and a 14-year-old nephew. 422 00:30:43,208 --> 00:30:47,000 Sorry, my battery about to die. I ain't even got my cord. Um... 423 00:30:47,916 --> 00:30:54,040 Through "Sandy Speaks," we are going to open up a gateway for the kids. 424 00:30:54,125 --> 00:30:57,834 Educating them on interacting with police. 425 00:30:57,916 --> 00:31:00,625 I don't think it's ever too early. 426 00:31:01,709 --> 00:31:03,875 And if you're a cop out there and you're watching this, 427 00:31:03,959 --> 00:31:06,834 here is your chance to say something and educate these kids, 428 00:31:06,916 --> 00:31:09,583 'cause again, I'm here to change history. 429 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,375 This thing that I'm holding in my hand, this telephone, this camera, 430 00:31:13,458 --> 00:31:15,625 it is quite powerful. 431 00:31:15,709 --> 00:31:17,375 Social media is powerful. 432 00:31:17,458 --> 00:31:18,875 We can do something with this. 433 00:31:18,959 --> 00:31:23,125 If we want to change, we can really, truly make it happen. 434 00:31:23,208 --> 00:31:24,791 "Sandy Speaks." 435 00:31:24,875 --> 00:31:27,916 LaToya: When she first posted her "Sandy Speaks" on Facebook, 436 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,625 I got all these notifications from Sandy. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. 437 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,208 That was her channeling that energy. 438 00:31:35,290 --> 00:31:38,709 This fight for civil rights, it still goes on right now. 439 00:31:38,791 --> 00:31:42,541 Although it's not called civil rights, that is what it is. 440 00:31:42,625 --> 00:31:45,458 Your right to be a civilian. 441 00:31:45,541 --> 00:31:49,834 We are still in that fight today, so please don't think it's over. 'Cause it's not. 442 00:31:49,916 --> 00:31:54,875 You are going to have to stand before God, and he is going to ask you, 443 00:31:54,959 --> 00:31:58,375 were you able to show love to your white man. 444 00:31:58,458 --> 00:32:02,208 Because that's the ultimate test. I really, I believe that. 445 00:32:02,290 --> 00:32:06,416 We are so valuable to this country, to this nation as a whole, 446 00:32:06,500 --> 00:32:12,250 but we will never succeed and we will never thrive as a culture, 447 00:32:12,333 --> 00:32:16,165 as a country, if we don't wake up. 448 00:32:16,250 --> 00:32:20,000 Black-on-black crime numbers are extremely high. 449 00:32:20,083 --> 00:32:23,290 These gangbangers and drug dealers, the people that they're shooting 450 00:32:23,375 --> 00:32:25,709 are not other gangbangers and drug dealers. 451 00:32:25,791 --> 00:32:27,583 They are killing our babies. 452 00:32:27,666 --> 00:32:31,333 Why do we keep acting like niggers? Excuse my French. 453 00:32:31,416 --> 00:32:33,583 But that is what we keep acting like. 454 00:32:33,666 --> 00:32:36,541 Shanté: She was speaking some real powerful stuff, 455 00:32:36,625 --> 00:32:41,666 that some people would not have dare been able to even speak. 456 00:32:41,750 --> 00:32:43,666 We have to just stop icing these things over. 457 00:32:43,750 --> 00:32:46,916 We have to stop acting like they don't matter. 458 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,040 And so Sandy is going to speak whenever I see something wrong. 459 00:32:50,125 --> 00:32:51,709 I thank you guys, I love you guys... 460 00:32:51,791 --> 00:32:53,875 Marland: What she was really saying in her messages, 461 00:32:53,959 --> 00:32:57,500 we can no longer be passive about these things. 462 00:32:58,541 --> 00:33:01,250 Not somebody has to do something about it. 463 00:33:01,333 --> 00:33:03,834 We have to do something about it. 464 00:33:04,583 --> 00:33:06,834 Shanté: She gets a call from Prairie View 465 00:33:06,916 --> 00:33:10,709 that there is a job opportunity. It was a temp job. 466 00:33:10,791 --> 00:33:13,750 And they said, we need you to be here to do this job interview. 467 00:33:14,666 --> 00:33:17,040 Well, at first I was like, "You know, you just left. 468 00:33:17,125 --> 00:33:19,165 "You didn't tell us or anything." And she was like, 469 00:33:19,250 --> 00:33:23,959 "It was going to be too emotional and I needed to do this, for me." 470 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,083 ♪ ♪ 471 00:33:43,791 --> 00:33:47,916 Sandra: To be successful in this world, you have to knw how to work with white people. 472 00:33:49,165 --> 00:33:51,125 What "Sandy Speaks" wants to do 473 00:33:51,208 --> 00:33:54,750 is let my kings and queens know, you can do it. 474 00:33:54,834 --> 00:33:58,083 We can be successful. It is up to us. 475 00:33:58,791 --> 00:34:01,083 ♪ ♪ 476 00:34:04,165 --> 00:34:08,791 I'm here! I am in Prairie View, Texas. 477 00:34:09,458 --> 00:34:13,958 Back at the crib. See the sign for PVAMU right there. 478 00:34:16,125 --> 00:34:17,666 I'm home! 479 00:34:18,625 --> 00:34:20,833 Exiting 10-98 now. 480 00:34:20,916 --> 00:34:22,958 Welcome back. Oh, Lord. 481 00:34:23,458 --> 00:34:25,791 I'm about to go over Waller County line. 482 00:34:28,208 --> 00:34:30,166 Sandra (over phone): Hi Mommy, it's me. 483 00:34:30,250 --> 00:34:34,500 Just wanted to let you know that I made it, I am here! 484 00:34:34,583 --> 00:34:36,333 I am here. 485 00:34:36,416 --> 00:34:39,250 Call me when you get a chance. Love you. Bye-bye. 486 00:34:42,208 --> 00:34:45,041 Mosley: When I got to my house, she was already in the driveway. 487 00:34:45,125 --> 00:34:46,750 Said, "Interview at one o'clock." 488 00:34:46,833 --> 00:34:49,083 So she went in, she changed, she showered. 489 00:34:49,166 --> 00:34:50,666 She said, "How do I look?" 490 00:34:50,750 --> 00:34:52,833 I said, "You look like you're about to get a job." 491 00:34:54,166 --> 00:34:56,708 Today, y'all, we're going to talk about hair. 492 00:34:56,791 --> 00:34:58,333 I don't know if many of y'all saw my post 493 00:34:58,416 --> 00:35:01,875 about how ready I am for my locks, but if you could see, 494 00:35:01,958 --> 00:35:04,083 yeah, I got my natural back. 495 00:35:04,166 --> 00:35:08,125 My fellow kings and queens always find something to laugh or poke fun about it, 496 00:35:08,208 --> 00:35:13,208 but, baby, under that edge-up, you got naps. 497 00:35:13,875 --> 00:35:17,083 Sweetie pie, under that Brazilian, you got naps. 498 00:35:17,166 --> 00:35:20,083 Before you get that perm, you have naps. 499 00:35:20,541 --> 00:35:24,208 So let's just cut it out. Let's stop hatin' on people 'cause their hair's natural. 500 00:35:24,291 --> 00:35:26,083 It's only hair. 501 00:35:26,166 --> 00:35:28,833 Okay? I love y'all. 502 00:35:30,250 --> 00:35:34,208 Geneva: Friday, Sandy just called to say, "Hey, I got it." 503 00:35:34,291 --> 00:35:36,750 I'm about to start in a few days. I got it, Mom!" 504 00:35:38,208 --> 00:35:40,416 She was going to work, but then she was also 505 00:35:40,500 --> 00:35:43,541 going to work on her master's in political science. 506 00:35:43,625 --> 00:35:47,333 She goes, "I'm going to the grocery store, and I'll talk to you later." 507 00:35:49,041 --> 00:35:50,916 I text her and I say, 508 00:35:51,625 --> 00:35:56,875 "Watch out, Prairie View. Werk it, girl." 509 00:36:06,875 --> 00:36:10,958 Friday afternoon, tables turned. 510 00:36:12,083 --> 00:36:14,083 Everything's different. 511 00:36:16,416 --> 00:36:18,458 ♪ ♪ 512 00:36:57,291 --> 00:37:00,083 Mosley: That night, about 10 o'clock, my phone rings, 513 00:37:00,166 --> 00:37:04,125 and I look at it on the caller ID and it said Waller County Sheriff's Department. 514 00:37:05,583 --> 00:37:07,250 And of course, I answer the phone. 515 00:37:07,333 --> 00:37:11,250 And it was Sandra Bland, and she was upset. 516 00:37:11,333 --> 00:37:13,458 Not crying, upset 'cause of what happened, 517 00:37:13,541 --> 00:37:16,500 she was pissed because of what happened. 518 00:37:18,833 --> 00:37:21,541 Smith: The main charge that she come in here with 519 00:37:21,625 --> 00:37:24,791 was assault on a public servant. 520 00:37:28,416 --> 00:37:34,666 And Ms. Bland, unfortunately, had a past criminal record. 521 00:37:35,875 --> 00:37:39,791 It was minor charges, a small amount of marijuana, maybe. 522 00:37:40,375 --> 00:37:43,791 But the current charge of a felony 523 00:37:43,875 --> 00:37:47,375 put her just in that different category. 524 00:37:51,666 --> 00:37:54,000 But I'm a country sheriff. 525 00:37:54,458 --> 00:37:56,583 I'm a conservative. 526 00:37:56,666 --> 00:37:59,916 By God, don't go violating the law or we're gonna get you. 527 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,583 And you should be punished if you're found guilty. 528 00:38:03,666 --> 00:38:06,291 I mean, that's me. 529 00:38:08,333 --> 00:38:11,250 Sandra (over phone): Hey, this is me. I'm, um... 530 00:38:11,333 --> 00:38:13,416 I just was able to see the judge. 531 00:38:13,500 --> 00:38:17,666 I don't really know, they got me sitting in a $5,000 bond. 532 00:38:18,166 --> 00:38:22,083 I'm still just at a loss for words, honestly, about this whole process. 533 00:38:22,166 --> 00:38:24,375 How this switching lanes with no signal 534 00:38:24,458 --> 00:38:26,625 turned into all of this, I don't even know. 535 00:38:26,708 --> 00:38:28,750 Um, but I'm still here. 536 00:38:28,833 --> 00:38:31,416 So, I guess call me back when you can. 537 00:38:33,041 --> 00:38:34,375 (phone chimes off) 538 00:38:35,958 --> 00:38:39,625 Smith: Ms. Bland's bond was set at $5,000. 539 00:38:39,958 --> 00:38:44,625 But most bondsmen here charge about 10 percent. 540 00:38:44,708 --> 00:38:48,208 So basically, it'd have been about 500. 541 00:38:50,875 --> 00:38:52,916 Joe Booker: She called me from the jail. 542 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,416 She didn't have any money, what she said. 543 00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:58,666 And I said, "Well, you got somebody that can help you, 544 00:38:58,750 --> 00:39:00,875 or I need to call?" 545 00:39:02,583 --> 00:39:05,333 I called her sister, and her sister said, 546 00:39:05,416 --> 00:39:07,250 "I had told Sandra all I had was..." 547 00:39:07,333 --> 00:39:10,791 I think she said a hundred, and "My rent's due," blah, blah, blah. 548 00:39:10,875 --> 00:39:14,666 So the next person called me after that was her mom. 549 00:39:14,750 --> 00:39:19,250 I say, "Okay. I'm going to get with the rest of the family, 550 00:39:19,333 --> 00:39:21,583 and we'll get back with you." 551 00:39:24,875 --> 00:39:26,833 There was no sense of, 552 00:39:26,916 --> 00:39:31,375 Oh, Jesus, I gotta jump down here, go on a plane and go do this right now. 553 00:39:31,458 --> 00:39:32,625 No. 554 00:39:34,416 --> 00:39:37,416 The main thing for us was, 555 00:39:37,500 --> 00:39:39,791 she said, "I'm gonna call you back." 556 00:39:42,625 --> 00:39:44,875 And the next phone call I got from the family was 557 00:39:44,958 --> 00:39:49,166 that Monday afternoon, when her mom called me and said, uh... 558 00:39:49,250 --> 00:39:52,291 "Mr. Booker, they said my daughter's in the morgue," and that was it. 559 00:39:56,083 --> 00:39:58,291 We were very upset and saddened by it, 560 00:39:58,375 --> 00:40:00,041 but at the same time, 561 00:40:00,125 --> 00:40:02,333 myself and Elton Mathis 562 00:40:02,416 --> 00:40:04,416 we were bound and determined to make sure 563 00:40:04,500 --> 00:40:06,083 whatever the process was, 564 00:40:06,166 --> 00:40:08,208 that it would be open and transparent 565 00:40:08,291 --> 00:40:10,000 from the beginning till the end. 566 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,708 Geneva: The truth is, 567 00:40:14,791 --> 00:40:18,458 it was not the authorities that called me. 568 00:40:18,541 --> 00:40:20,250 I'm the mom. 569 00:40:20,333 --> 00:40:26,791 There was never a phone call from Waller County about Sandy's death. 570 00:40:26,875 --> 00:40:29,000 ♪ ♪ 571 00:40:30,625 --> 00:40:32,583 LaToya: When someone told me that Sandy hung herself, 572 00:40:32,666 --> 00:40:35,416 it was like this overwhelming feeling of oppression. 573 00:40:35,500 --> 00:40:38,000 Right, 'cause the thing that happened with the kids 574 00:40:38,083 --> 00:40:42,125 in Texas, where they were body-slammed at the pool party had just happened. 575 00:40:43,500 --> 00:40:45,125 -(screaming) -Get down! Down! 576 00:40:45,208 --> 00:40:47,750 LaToya: There was so much unrest in the country, 577 00:40:47,833 --> 00:40:50,791 and this is not just happening on TV, 578 00:40:50,875 --> 00:40:53,583 and it's happening to someone who you knew. 579 00:40:53,666 --> 00:40:57,875 None of that made sense about who she was, the type of person she was, 580 00:40:57,958 --> 00:41:00,333 the type of fighter that she was. 581 00:41:01,291 --> 00:41:03,375 Sandra: Good morning, my beautiful kings and queens. 582 00:41:03,458 --> 00:41:08,083 If you could see my poster, here, "All white people are not against us." 583 00:41:16,166 --> 00:41:17,458 -Sandra: So call the police. -Okay. 584 00:41:17,541 --> 00:41:19,958 Sandra: All right. Go ahead. 585 00:41:20,041 --> 00:41:21,541 Go right ahead. 586 00:41:22,375 --> 00:41:25,666 All right. Y'all see it. The police are about to get called. 587 00:41:25,750 --> 00:41:28,375 "Sandy Speaks." Game is on. 588 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,291 LaToya: When the video came out, I was enraged. 589 00:41:34,375 --> 00:41:40,041 That she would go into a jail and cower away and kill herself made no sense to me. 590 00:41:40,750 --> 00:41:42,375 Something was not right. 591 00:41:43,666 --> 00:41:46,750 I just kept posting articles and information and trying to get people out there, 592 00:41:46,833 --> 00:41:49,125 and like, Sandra Bland. Say her name, say her name. 593 00:41:49,208 --> 00:41:52,916 Prairie View alumni kept tweeting and tweeting and Instagram-ing 594 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,083 and Facebook-ing and hashtag-ing her name everywhere. 595 00:42:05,125 --> 00:42:08,125 Hello, this is Hannah Bonner. I'm here at the Waller County Jail. 596 00:42:08,208 --> 00:42:12,125 When Sandra died, we had not seen a woman's name 597 00:42:12,208 --> 00:42:15,000 have that staying power that we had seen 598 00:42:15,083 --> 00:42:18,416 with Michael Brown, Tamir Rice, Trayvon Martin. 599 00:42:18,500 --> 00:42:23,875 Women had died, but we had not continued to say their names. 600 00:42:30,125 --> 00:42:34,625 So she died on Monday, and by Wednesday night I was at the jail. 601 00:42:38,125 --> 00:42:41,041 And we lit a candle that had the hashtag: 602 00:42:41,125 --> 00:42:43,166 What Happened to Sandra Bland. 603 00:42:44,166 --> 00:42:47,541 And so somebody from inside the jail blew the candle out. 604 00:42:48,125 --> 00:42:51,791 Bonner: You have a responsibility to serve and protect me. 605 00:42:51,875 --> 00:42:54,083 -Officer: No, I don't. -Bonner: Oh. Oh! 606 00:42:54,166 --> 00:42:57,250 -You don't? -Officer: You don't want me to. 607 00:42:59,333 --> 00:43:03,000 Bonner: Then we started projecting onto the wall of the jail. 608 00:43:04,625 --> 00:43:08,875 I was asked, was I trying to racially unite 609 00:43:08,958 --> 00:43:11,375 or racially incite. 610 00:43:12,583 --> 00:43:15,541 Well, honestly, I feel that 611 00:43:15,625 --> 00:43:17,958 my goal is to racially unite. 612 00:43:18,708 --> 00:43:19,875 Now... 613 00:43:20,958 --> 00:43:25,333 in the process of doing that, some people will be incited, 614 00:43:25,416 --> 00:43:31,458 i.e. upset, because based on the history of America, 615 00:43:31,541 --> 00:43:36,625 it is not good when it comes to black and white people. 616 00:43:45,541 --> 00:43:48,000 Sandra Bland didn't have to be here. 617 00:43:48,833 --> 00:43:52,333 America allowed this to happen. 618 00:43:52,416 --> 00:43:56,625 Because these idiots, these Europeans have miseducated our people. 619 00:43:56,708 --> 00:43:59,541 -(chanting): Too black, too strong! -Too black, too strong! 620 00:43:59,625 --> 00:44:02,250 -Too black, too strong! -Too black, too strong! 621 00:44:02,333 --> 00:44:04,375 -All power to the people! -All power to the people! 622 00:44:04,458 --> 00:44:06,541 -All power to the people! -All power to the people! 623 00:44:06,625 --> 00:44:09,125 -Too black, too strong! -Too black, too strong! 624 00:44:09,208 --> 00:44:12,041 -No more pigs in my community! -Off the pig! 625 00:44:12,125 --> 00:44:14,958 -No more pigs in my community! -Off the pig! 626 00:44:15,041 --> 00:44:17,833 -Revolution has come! -Off the pig! 627 00:44:17,916 --> 00:44:20,750 -No more sisters in jail! -Off the pig! 628 00:44:20,833 --> 00:44:23,833 -Pigs are going to catch hell! -Off the pig! 629 00:44:23,916 --> 00:44:25,333 -Oink, oink! -Oink, oink! 630 00:44:25,416 --> 00:44:26,916 -Oink, oink! -Oink, oink! 631 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,041 Panther patch, it says, "Freedom or death!" 632 00:44:29,125 --> 00:44:30,916 And we mean it till our last breath! 633 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,583 Others: And we mean it till our last breath! 634 00:44:32,666 --> 00:44:34,125 -Whose streets? -Our streets! 635 00:44:34,208 --> 00:44:35,625 -Whose streets? -Our streets! 636 00:44:37,041 --> 00:44:39,125 (boat horn blares) 637 00:44:40,750 --> 00:44:42,791 Cannon: We're back in Chicago. 638 00:44:42,875 --> 00:44:47,625 Sandy is back in Chicago, and we're preparing to bury her. 639 00:44:48,333 --> 00:44:50,750 We're burying her on Saturday. 640 00:44:51,500 --> 00:44:56,666 And my first text that I receive from Mr. Mathis, the district attorney down there, 641 00:44:57,250 --> 00:45:00,458 he says to me at 4:58, "Where is the body? 642 00:45:01,583 --> 00:45:04,250 "Do you have the results back on your autopsy?" 643 00:45:04,916 --> 00:45:10,708 I say in response, "Sandy is here with us. We haven't received our report yet." 644 00:45:10,958 --> 00:45:14,708 So this is part of what makes me start to feel like 645 00:45:14,791 --> 00:45:16,958 there's a little gamesmanship that's going on 646 00:45:17,041 --> 00:45:20,375 because he knows that I can't have a full autopsy report. 647 00:45:20,458 --> 00:45:25,625 He then says, "Looking at the autopsy results and toxicology, 648 00:45:25,708 --> 00:45:30,708 "it appears that she may have swallowed a large quantity of marijuana or smoked it in jail. 649 00:45:30,791 --> 00:45:33,708 "Since your client has possession of Ms. Bland's body, 650 00:45:33,791 --> 00:45:38,291 "I must ask it not be disturbed any more than necessary 651 00:45:38,375 --> 00:45:43,708 "and that a proper chain of custody be kept, so that she will be available 652 00:45:43,791 --> 00:45:47,791 "for future examination by qualified experts. 653 00:45:47,875 --> 00:45:50,250 Notice is given at 5:10 p.m." 654 00:45:50,333 --> 00:45:53,416 That "notice is given at 5:10 p.m." is a specific effort 655 00:45:53,500 --> 00:45:58,666 to try and shift the burden as it relates to the destruction of evidence on this family 656 00:45:58,750 --> 00:46:01,041 when they know that they're about to bury her. 657 00:46:01,125 --> 00:46:07,833 You don't release a body if there's more tests that you need on that body. 658 00:46:07,916 --> 00:46:09,833 Do you think that's enough to cover some? I mean-- 659 00:46:09,916 --> 00:46:12,458 You're not only going to be asking what the policies, procedures, protocols, 660 00:46:12,541 --> 00:46:13,958 and guidelines are, 661 00:46:14,041 --> 00:46:16,833 but you're also going to say, "as it relates to booking." 662 00:46:16,916 --> 00:46:18,708 -That makes sense. -Cannon: Perfect. 663 00:46:18,791 --> 00:46:22,416 Cannon: When you start to deal with, frankly, deception, 664 00:46:22,500 --> 00:46:27,416 we could potentially file a lawsuit, if we wanted to, down there, in Waller County. 665 00:46:28,375 --> 00:46:33,166 You file a suit so you can mae people give you the informatin that the family is entitled t. 666 00:46:33,250 --> 00:46:36,250 I mean, for Christ's sakes she died in their custody. 667 00:46:36,333 --> 00:46:39,375 We were able to get access to Sandra Bland's cell. 668 00:46:39,458 --> 00:46:42,000 You can see they've left a lot of it just like the way it was. 669 00:46:42,083 --> 00:46:46,625 The food is still sitting here. The bed is still in the same arrangement that it was left in. 670 00:46:46,708 --> 00:46:50,208 But there's a lot of attention being paid to the trash bag just like this one. 671 00:46:50,291 --> 00:46:52,958 And this trash liner. Of course, this trash liner 672 00:46:53,041 --> 00:46:58,625 is what's believed that was used to string up here, and for Sandra Bland to hang herself. 673 00:46:58,708 --> 00:47:02,500 Cannon: There were reporters, as we know, go into the cell, 674 00:47:02,583 --> 00:47:05,458 in its state that it was claimed to have been in 675 00:47:05,541 --> 00:47:07,625 at the time that Sandy passed. 676 00:47:07,708 --> 00:47:11,541 And that says that is not being preserved. 677 00:47:12,083 --> 00:47:17,750 It just blows my mind that that could have happened, but it did. 678 00:47:31,375 --> 00:47:34,000 Preacher: Eighteen years ago, 679 00:47:34,083 --> 00:47:36,166 a single parent 680 00:47:36,250 --> 00:47:41,583 brought five little girls to this church. 681 00:47:42,416 --> 00:47:48,625 And Sandra Bland was one of our victories. 682 00:47:48,708 --> 00:47:51,625 Before she was formed... 683 00:47:52,375 --> 00:47:55,250 God spoke into her spirit. 684 00:47:56,458 --> 00:48:02,000 "Now I'm sending you into a strange land. 685 00:48:02,333 --> 00:48:05,458 "All of the authorities are not fair. 686 00:48:05,541 --> 00:48:08,958 "All of the politicians are not honest. 687 00:48:09,041 --> 00:48:13,458 "And I'm sending you, Sandy Bland-- that's what they're going to name you-- 688 00:48:13,541 --> 00:48:18,125 I'm sending you not to shut up, but to speak up." 689 00:48:18,208 --> 00:48:21,375 And here came Sandy. 690 00:48:21,458 --> 00:48:25,125 "Good morning, my kings and queens. 691 00:48:26,708 --> 00:48:31,208 "I'm not a racist. I don't believe in violence. 692 00:48:31,291 --> 00:48:34,000 "I'm not trying to incite. 693 00:48:34,083 --> 00:48:36,333 "I'm trying to unite. 694 00:48:36,416 --> 00:48:39,916 -"Sandy Speaks." -(applause) 695 00:48:40,041 --> 00:48:41,875 As a matter of fact... 696 00:48:41,958 --> 00:48:44,250 -(organ playing) -...when I think of Sandy Bland, 697 00:48:44,333 --> 00:48:49,250 I'm going to think of more than an outspoken, strong-willed black woman. 698 00:48:49,333 --> 00:48:53,750 But I'm going to think of Jesus! Oh, yes I am! 699 00:48:53,833 --> 00:48:59,208 'Cause don't you know, Sandy was raised in a blended family. 700 00:48:59,291 --> 00:49:04,125 Like Jesus, she was brutally arrested. 701 00:49:04,208 --> 00:49:10,083 Like Jesus, she died in the custody of authority. 702 00:49:10,166 --> 00:49:14,916 Like Jesus, Sandy's still speaking. 703 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,958 Are you listening? 704 00:49:17,666 --> 00:49:20,000 Are you listening? 705 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,791 ♪ I said, it's just another day ♪ 706 00:49:23,875 --> 00:49:26,458 ♪ Just another day, yeah ♪ 707 00:49:26,541 --> 00:49:30,583 -♪ That my Lord ♪ -♪ Just another day, oh ♪ 708 00:49:30,666 --> 00:49:33,125 -♪ Kept me ♪ -♪ Just another day ♪ 709 00:49:33,208 --> 00:49:36,375 -♪ Yes, he did ♪ -♪ Just another day ♪ 710 00:49:36,458 --> 00:49:38,541 ♪ Just another day ♪ 711 00:49:38,625 --> 00:49:40,625 ♪ Just another day ♪ 712 00:49:40,708 --> 00:49:42,625 ♪ That I... ♪ 713 00:49:42,708 --> 00:49:44,166 ♪ Just another day ♪ 714 00:49:44,250 --> 00:49:47,875 -♪ Been by my savior's side ♪ -♪ Just another day... ♪ 715 00:49:48,291 --> 00:49:50,875 Sharon: I lost my best friend and my sister. 716 00:49:50,958 --> 00:49:54,375 -♪ Wanna say he threw ♪ -♪ Just another day... ♪ 717 00:49:54,458 --> 00:49:57,500 Sharon: And I know that the closure 718 00:49:57,583 --> 00:50:01,958 that I need will not come untl the legal process is complete. 719 00:50:02,041 --> 00:50:04,916 ♪ ♪ 720 00:50:14,250 --> 00:50:16,375 ♪ ♪ 721 00:50:20,708 --> 00:50:24,291 Mathis: I assembled a team of special prosecutors. 722 00:50:25,083 --> 00:50:28,750 Two African-American special prosecutors, 723 00:50:28,833 --> 00:50:31,666 a female prosecutor, Anglo, 724 00:50:31,750 --> 00:50:34,500 and two male Anglo prosecutors, 725 00:50:34,583 --> 00:50:39,125 all of which were actually defense attorneys-- 726 00:50:39,208 --> 00:50:43,083 people that would traditionally be antagonistic 727 00:50:43,166 --> 00:50:45,708 toward law enforcement, 728 00:50:45,791 --> 00:50:50,625 to come in and review what happened to Sandy in that jail. 729 00:50:51,708 --> 00:50:53,875 Larry Rogers: The saying is that a prosecutor 730 00:50:53,958 --> 00:50:55,375 can use a grand jury 731 00:50:55,458 --> 00:50:57,583 to indict a ham sandwich. 732 00:50:58,416 --> 00:51:00,208 Basically, whatever result 733 00:51:00,291 --> 00:51:02,875 the prosecutor wants to see come out of the grand jury, 734 00:51:02,958 --> 00:51:06,958 they can manipulate the evidence to secure. 735 00:51:07,375 --> 00:51:12,958 I disagree with the old statement that you can indict a ham sandwich. 736 00:51:13,583 --> 00:51:16,291 My grand jurors have always been smarter than that. 737 00:51:16,916 --> 00:51:20,833 And my grand jurors don't just let me come in and do whatever I want. 738 00:51:26,625 --> 00:51:31,666 Cannon: I think it's a... a farce, the criminal investigation. 739 00:51:32,666 --> 00:51:37,083 I bet you money that the DA down there, they'll say, 740 00:51:37,166 --> 00:51:40,791 "All of the evidence that we presented to the grand jury was assessed, 741 00:51:40,875 --> 00:51:44,333 "and they made a determination that nobody should be charged." 742 00:51:44,416 --> 00:51:47,416 But the practical reality of a grand jury investigation 743 00:51:47,500 --> 00:51:49,416 is that it's not adversarial. 744 00:51:49,500 --> 00:51:53,041 I can't be there, I don't get to submit any evidence. 745 00:51:53,125 --> 00:51:57,333 They get to choose what evidence they submit and what evidence they don't. 746 00:51:57,416 --> 00:51:59,625 They may not choose to submit 747 00:51:59,708 --> 00:52:04,416 any of the dashcam video if they investigate Encinia. 748 00:52:04,500 --> 00:52:09,375 They get to say, "Sandy was pulled over because she failed to use her turn signal. 749 00:52:10,208 --> 00:52:13,416 "She got aggressive, and she had to be arrested." 750 00:52:14,291 --> 00:52:16,333 And there's no way for us to know 751 00:52:16,416 --> 00:52:18,916 whether or not that's all the evidence they really give. 752 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,708 Why? Because it's a secret proceeding. 753 00:52:21,791 --> 00:52:25,333 It's a secret proceeding that no one will ever be able to access. 754 00:52:25,416 --> 00:52:27,750 -Okay. -GPS: In two miles take Exit 2, 755 00:52:27,833 --> 00:52:30,458 -79A for US... to US-20... -Oh! 756 00:52:30,541 --> 00:52:32,916 -...US-45 La Grange Road. -Okay. 757 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,958 This is in Maryland, they have a mobile billboard 758 00:52:41,041 --> 00:52:45,750 that says "Department of Justice, Launch an Investigation. 759 00:52:45,833 --> 00:52:47,833 Justice for Sandra Bland." 760 00:52:48,375 --> 00:52:50,541 That was on the side of someone's truck. 761 00:52:52,458 --> 00:52:56,791 I feel like a large part of the world has glossed over the stop, 762 00:52:56,875 --> 00:52:59,458 and they just talk about how she got in jail 763 00:52:59,541 --> 00:53:02,291 and what may have happened in jail. 764 00:53:02,833 --> 00:53:04,958 When you terminate someone, 765 00:53:05,041 --> 00:53:07,791 you are letting them know that you have broken protocol. 766 00:53:07,875 --> 00:53:10,500 and you have put us as an organization at risk. 767 00:53:10,583 --> 00:53:15,083 And so why that hasn't happened with Officer Encinia, I don't know. 768 00:53:22,125 --> 00:53:26,041 I mean, your emotions are too raw to even come to a grave and visit anybody. 769 00:53:26,125 --> 00:53:28,000 So the last couple of weeks, I mean, she was-- 770 00:53:28,083 --> 00:53:31,208 even though she passed away on the 13th, she wasn't buried until the 25th. 771 00:53:36,958 --> 00:53:40,333 Newsman: Authorities say Bland had drugs in her system 772 00:53:40,416 --> 00:53:42,083 at the time of her death. 773 00:53:42,166 --> 00:53:46,750 There have been some instances or claims 774 00:53:46,833 --> 00:53:50,333 about a substantial amount of marijuana found in her system. 775 00:53:50,416 --> 00:53:52,708 I can tell you that there has been 776 00:53:52,791 --> 00:53:55,916 a confirmation of those results. 777 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,958 ♪ ♪ 778 00:53:58,041 --> 00:54:00,041 Warren Diepraam: One thing was pretty certain was 779 00:54:00,125 --> 00:54:03,958 that she had a substantial amount of marijuana in her body. 780 00:54:05,083 --> 00:54:08,541 To me it was interesting fact, because it plays on her psyche, 781 00:54:08,625 --> 00:54:11,375 it plays onto why she may have been suicidal 782 00:54:11,458 --> 00:54:13,541 and why nobody knew about it. 783 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:18,125 Cannon: What they've tried to suggest, by marijuana, 784 00:54:18,208 --> 00:54:21,166 is a crock, is a crock of manure. 785 00:54:22,125 --> 00:54:26,208 And it was a direct attack on her character. 786 00:54:29,750 --> 00:54:32,416 Mathis: Sandra Bland was very combative. 787 00:54:32,500 --> 00:54:35,500 -Judge: What does that mean? -It was, um... 788 00:54:36,833 --> 00:54:39,875 It was not a model traffic stop, 789 00:54:39,958 --> 00:54:44,958 or-- and it was not a model person that was stopped on a traffic stop. 790 00:54:45,041 --> 00:54:47,166 ♪ ♪ 791 00:54:49,708 --> 00:54:54,208 Cannon: We went to the auto shop, where the car was. 792 00:54:54,291 --> 00:54:57,375 This is the purse that she had in the car. 793 00:54:58,291 --> 00:55:03,208 We also found the cigarette that she was asked to put out. 794 00:55:03,291 --> 00:55:04,958 And she put it out. 795 00:55:05,041 --> 00:55:08,166 The area where you put out a cigarette, 796 00:55:08,250 --> 00:55:11,041 it was sticking, standing straight up. 797 00:55:12,250 --> 00:55:16,125 So even though she said, "I don't have to put it out," she put it out. 798 00:55:16,208 --> 00:55:20,333 And even in spite of that, she was still made to get out of the car. 799 00:55:20,416 --> 00:55:22,541 ♪ ♪ 800 00:55:26,166 --> 00:55:29,041 "Death and life are in the power of the tongue, 801 00:55:29,833 --> 00:55:34,000 and those who lose it, will eat its fruit." 802 00:55:35,041 --> 00:55:38,291 Man, that is a word. 803 00:55:38,375 --> 00:55:39,625 Hmm. 804 00:55:39,708 --> 00:55:41,750 ♪ ♪ 805 00:55:42,875 --> 00:55:45,083 Geneva: How did Sandy die? 806 00:55:45,166 --> 00:55:48,458 Well, now we're trying to say, "Oh! 807 00:55:48,541 --> 00:55:50,208 "Let's not look at what really happened. 808 00:55:50,291 --> 00:55:54,208 Let's talk about this marijuana that was in her system." 809 00:55:55,791 --> 00:56:02,375 And so now she changes from the poor young lady who passed in a jail cell 810 00:56:02,458 --> 00:56:07,416 to "Oh, she was crazy. She had a mental illness." 811 00:56:07,500 --> 00:56:11,708 You can throw all of the... insults, 812 00:56:11,791 --> 00:56:13,958 you can throw all of what you want to throw, 813 00:56:14,041 --> 00:56:17,833 I'm still going to stand until everything is uncovered. 814 00:56:17,916 --> 00:56:20,250 Newswoman: Bland's autopsy has been completed... 815 00:56:20,333 --> 00:56:22,500 (news broadcasts overlapping) 816 00:56:27,541 --> 00:56:29,625 (distant sirens wailing) 817 00:56:32,416 --> 00:56:35,875 Cannon: I'm going to have the press conference tomorrow morning at nine. 818 00:56:35,958 --> 00:56:38,208 I mean, we're going to get up there and we're going say, 819 00:56:38,291 --> 00:56:39,958 "We've made the decision at this time, 820 00:56:40,041 --> 00:56:41,708 that it's necessary for us to file suit." 821 00:56:41,791 --> 00:56:45,625 "Why now? The reason we're suing now is, they're making us file. 822 00:56:45,708 --> 00:56:50,041 We've asked for the same information that the media's released. Right? 823 00:56:50,125 --> 00:56:54,958 They're giving it piecemeal to the media in a way that helps them. 824 00:56:55,041 --> 00:56:57,250 Rogers: We're forced to litigate this 825 00:56:57,333 --> 00:57:00,041 because we have an in-custody death that's unexplained. 826 00:57:00,125 --> 00:57:03,291 We're not getting information. We need to know the true time of death. 827 00:57:03,375 --> 00:57:07,250 Was it on the 13th? Was it the 12th? Was the rigor mortis set in? 828 00:57:07,333 --> 00:57:09,250 All of those things are unknown. 829 00:57:09,333 --> 00:57:15,583 The doctor that did our independent autopsy does not have the gastric content, 830 00:57:15,666 --> 00:57:17,541 because that's still in their possession. 831 00:57:17,625 --> 00:57:19,875 She doesn't have the ligature, that's still in their possession. 832 00:57:19,958 --> 00:57:22,875 -And then try to spin it back to the arrest. -What do you think? 833 00:57:22,958 --> 00:57:24,750 Ted Diamantopoulos: Police officers know where the video is. 834 00:57:24,833 --> 00:57:27,416 So at the point where she's not in the video, 835 00:57:27,500 --> 00:57:29,750 the police officer did something else to her. 836 00:57:29,833 --> 00:57:32,041 Obviously, she wouldn't just say, "You're breaking my wrist..." 837 00:57:32,125 --> 00:57:34,708 -Correct, correct. -...outside the scope of the camera. 838 00:57:34,791 --> 00:57:36,666 -Okay, they know exactly where it is. -Mm-hmm 839 00:57:36,750 --> 00:57:39,500 So that's kind of how we frame it. 840 00:57:39,583 --> 00:57:43,250 That they're trained to go outside of the view of the camera. 841 00:57:43,333 --> 00:57:44,583 -Yeah. -Mm-hmm. 842 00:57:44,666 --> 00:57:47,416 Tom Rhodes: Okay. Rangers are our friends. 843 00:57:47,500 --> 00:57:52,958 They are really good at coming in and taking care of issues like this. 844 00:57:53,041 --> 00:57:56,666 Geneva: I don't think that there's ever been an issue like this. 845 00:57:56,750 --> 00:57:58,458 When I sent my family down here, 846 00:57:58,541 --> 00:58:01,750 they were supposed to be coming back with Sandy's items. 847 00:58:01,833 --> 00:58:04,333 They were supposed to-- we were told we could get her phone, 848 00:58:04,416 --> 00:58:06,125 we were told we could get all of that. 849 00:58:06,208 --> 00:58:09,208 And when they got here, that totally flipped around. 850 00:58:09,291 --> 00:58:11,833 And so, now... 851 00:58:12,708 --> 00:58:14,875 we gotta do what we have to do. 852 00:58:16,958 --> 00:58:21,375 The family of Sandra Bland will be filing suit on August 4, 2015, 853 00:58:21,458 --> 00:58:26,750 uh, at the federal courthouse, Houston. 854 00:58:27,916 --> 00:58:30,041 ♪ ♪ 855 00:58:34,375 --> 00:58:36,166 -Have a nice day. -Geneva: Thank you. 856 00:58:36,250 --> 00:58:38,208 You know that they say, don't mess with Texas? 857 00:58:38,291 --> 00:58:40,208 But we're down here to mess with Texas. 858 00:58:40,291 --> 00:58:42,083 Or they got the message. 859 00:58:48,750 --> 00:58:50,791 ♪ ♪ 860 00:58:58,750 --> 00:59:01,791 Cannon: We sued Waller County sheriff, Brian Encinia. 861 00:59:01,875 --> 00:59:06,958 We sued both of the booking officers at Waller County. 862 00:59:07,750 --> 00:59:10,541 There's the assault and battery counts, 863 00:59:10,625 --> 00:59:12,541 there's the wrongful death count, 864 00:59:12,625 --> 00:59:15,041 there's the survival count. 865 00:59:15,125 --> 00:59:19,125 There were constitutional rights that were violated. 866 00:59:20,791 --> 00:59:25,041 People in this country have died for the opportunity to make sure 867 00:59:25,125 --> 00:59:27,291 that we have a voice at this point. 868 00:59:27,375 --> 00:59:31,000 And we're going to muster the strength to use it. 869 00:59:31,083 --> 00:59:34,916 And when you file suit, you're saying, 870 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,000 this wasn't right. 871 00:59:37,083 --> 00:59:40,000 And you might be, quote, "the man," 872 00:59:40,083 --> 00:59:43,083 you might be, quote, "the system," 873 00:59:43,916 --> 00:59:47,541 but we feel like something's got to change. 874 00:59:47,625 --> 00:59:49,791 (indistinct conversations) 875 00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:59,833 Cannon: Folks, thanks very much for coming. 876 00:59:59,916 --> 01:00:04,916 We, in filing this lawsuit, are looking to hold those who are responsible 877 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:10,250 for the stop, and Sandy's ultimate death, accountable. 878 01:00:10,333 --> 01:00:12,958 Newsman: This is a homicide or a suicide? 879 01:00:13,041 --> 01:00:16,458 Cannon: This family is a reasonable family. 880 01:00:16,541 --> 01:00:21,458 In the face of Sandy being the light that she was, 881 01:00:21,541 --> 01:00:24,541 it is very difficult for them to get their minds around 882 01:00:24,625 --> 01:00:27,375 the notion that she would hurt herself. 883 01:00:27,458 --> 01:00:32,458 Newsman: What happened to Sandy is indicative of a larger conversation. 884 01:00:32,541 --> 01:00:36,500 How does Sandra Bland's story play into that larger narrative? 885 01:00:36,583 --> 01:00:40,458 If, ultimately, the answer to your question is, unfortunately, 886 01:00:40,541 --> 01:00:43,958 that Sandy took her own life, does that at all change? 887 01:00:44,041 --> 01:00:46,125 Sharon: She should not have been there in the first place. 888 01:00:46,208 --> 01:00:47,500 The fact that she was pulled over 889 01:00:47,708 --> 01:00:50,458 for a failure to signal a lane change, okay, 890 01:00:50,541 --> 01:00:54,791 the fact that she honestly and was forthcoming and complying 891 01:00:54,875 --> 01:00:58,541 with the police officer when he asked her for her identification. 892 01:00:58,625 --> 01:01:00,375 That's what he asked her for. 893 01:01:00,458 --> 01:01:02,791 The other ask of her, and where his tone changed 894 01:01:02,875 --> 01:01:05,083 was when he asked her to put her cigarette out. 895 01:01:05,166 --> 01:01:08,458 To which she replied, "I don't have to put my cigarette out, 896 01:01:08,541 --> 01:01:10,208 "I'm in my own vehicle." 897 01:01:10,291 --> 01:01:13,791 There's a seismic shift in the conversation that takes place there. 898 01:01:13,875 --> 01:01:17,666 It's unfortunate, and I think that the key word to remember here 899 01:01:17,750 --> 01:01:21,125 is the inability to de-escalate the situation. 900 01:01:21,208 --> 01:01:23,875 The fact that the situation escalated in such a way 901 01:01:23,958 --> 01:01:29,000 that we have a young lady who was merely on her way to get groceries, 902 01:01:29,083 --> 01:01:32,166 on her way to get groceries to stock her refrigerator, 903 01:01:32,250 --> 01:01:35,708 on a Friday afternoon, she ends up jailed, 904 01:01:35,791 --> 01:01:38,291 she ends up dying in police custody. 905 01:01:38,375 --> 01:01:41,666 We are three weeks out from Sandra's death. 906 01:01:41,750 --> 01:01:44,500 We are a week out from burying her, 907 01:01:44,583 --> 01:01:47,125 and we still don't know what happened to her. 908 01:01:47,208 --> 01:01:49,375 (indistinct chattering) 909 01:01:51,083 --> 01:01:54,708 Woman: You can't have somebody who speaks this message... 910 01:01:54,791 --> 01:01:58,333 -That's right. That's right. -...that is suicidal. 911 01:01:58,416 --> 01:01:59,958 -Man: No way. -Woman: No way. 912 01:02:00,041 --> 01:02:01,500 -Say her name! -Sandra Bland! 913 01:02:01,583 --> 01:02:03,500 -Say her name! -Sandra Bland! 914 01:02:03,583 --> 01:02:05,333 -Say her name! -Sandra Bland! 915 01:02:05,416 --> 01:02:07,125 -Say her name! -Sandra Bland! 916 01:02:07,208 --> 01:02:09,833 Newsman: The local sheriff, shedding new light on their statement 917 01:02:09,916 --> 01:02:12,291 that Sandra Bland committed suicide. 918 01:02:12,375 --> 01:02:15,625 Releasing this intake form from the day Bland was jailed, 919 01:02:15,708 --> 01:02:20,041 with a startling admission: she attempted suicide within the last year. 920 01:02:20,125 --> 01:02:23,708 But to the question: Are you thinking about killing yourself today? 921 01:02:23,791 --> 01:02:25,916 Sandra answering no. 922 01:02:31,125 --> 01:02:34,125 Mathis: I can understand where she was probably scared. 923 01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:38,375 She was likely going to lose her job at her alma mater, 924 01:02:38,458 --> 01:02:40,291 that she had just gotten, 925 01:02:40,375 --> 01:02:43,375 because now, she picked up a felony. 926 01:02:47,125 --> 01:02:51,000 She had lost a baby 14 months prior. 927 01:02:56,125 --> 01:02:59,833 "I'm in a new location, far away from my family." 928 01:03:00,666 --> 01:03:03,083 They knew what her bond was. 929 01:03:03,166 --> 01:03:05,333 She wasn't being bonded out. 930 01:03:09,125 --> 01:03:11,166 ♪ ♪ 931 01:03:13,125 --> 01:03:17,708 She's sitting there thinking about, what am I going to do. 932 01:03:20,833 --> 01:03:23,250 Smith: She come in here Friday afternoon, 933 01:03:23,333 --> 01:03:26,166 as an aggravated, upset individual 934 01:03:26,250 --> 01:03:28,708 that probably any of us would have been. 935 01:03:33,166 --> 01:03:35,458 You got a concrete floor, 936 01:03:35,541 --> 01:03:39,500 concrete walls, and a solid iron door. 937 01:03:42,375 --> 01:03:47,875 Your physical body with a high level of THC is working. 938 01:03:49,166 --> 01:03:52,875 And by Monday morning, your world has-- 939 01:03:52,958 --> 01:03:56,083 in your mind, your world has ended. 940 01:03:56,166 --> 01:03:58,250 ♪ ♪ 941 01:04:00,750 --> 01:04:03,041 Brian Cantrell: Suicide is extremely tough. 942 01:04:03,125 --> 01:04:05,625 I can't imagine what her family has gone through. 943 01:04:05,708 --> 01:04:08,916 I, too, have had close family members 944 01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:10,333 that have taken their life 945 01:04:10,416 --> 01:04:12,125 and it's hard to understand. 946 01:04:15,333 --> 01:04:18,583 Smith: Did she want to do that in completion, 947 01:04:18,666 --> 01:04:23,166 or did she do it by accident, 948 01:04:23,250 --> 01:04:27,791 wanting to be, maybe caught, for extra attention? 949 01:04:27,875 --> 01:04:32,041 Those things, you know, none of us would ever know. 950 01:04:32,125 --> 01:04:34,250 ♪ ♪ 951 01:04:35,958 --> 01:04:38,416 Sharon: I was there for the miscarriage. 952 01:04:38,500 --> 01:04:40,333 I was at the hospital with her and everything, 953 01:04:40,416 --> 01:04:42,166 and she was, she was sad. 954 01:04:42,250 --> 01:04:43,500 ♪ ♪ 955 01:04:44,375 --> 01:04:48,625 But I was not knowledgeable of any suicide attempt. 956 01:04:50,791 --> 01:04:52,208 Marland: Sharon called. 957 01:04:52,291 --> 01:04:55,166 She said, "They're saying that she committed suicide." 958 01:04:57,458 --> 01:05:01,083 And that just wasn't the Sandy that I knew. 959 01:05:01,583 --> 01:05:03,291 (horns honking) 960 01:05:04,833 --> 01:05:08,041 About a month before the unfortunate incident, 961 01:05:08,125 --> 01:05:11,291 she had said, "Reverend Brazier, I think I got my purpose. 962 01:05:11,375 --> 01:05:13,291 I think I know what I want to do." 963 01:05:13,916 --> 01:05:16,958 She came out from under the table with this... 964 01:05:17,041 --> 01:05:19,416 (laughs) it was a binder, 965 01:05:19,500 --> 01:05:22,500 about an inch and a half, two inches thick, 966 01:05:22,583 --> 01:05:27,916 of all this research that she had done on police brutality. 967 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:31,666 Body cams, Trayvon Martin, you know, legislation. 968 01:05:31,750 --> 01:05:35,416 Sandra: My job has become, helping wherever I can. 969 01:05:35,500 --> 01:05:39,208 Inspired by the Million Man March, there was the creation 970 01:05:39,291 --> 01:05:41,833 of the National African-American parent involvement... 971 01:05:41,916 --> 01:05:44,791 Racism is still alive today, and it still... 972 01:05:44,875 --> 01:05:46,416 All the odds are against us. 973 01:05:46,500 --> 01:05:50,750 In Ferguson, there were two gentlemen who decided to disrupt 974 01:05:50,833 --> 01:05:54,958 a peaceful protest and shoot into the crowd. 975 01:05:55,041 --> 01:05:57,166 Y'all, this has got to stop. 976 01:05:57,250 --> 01:06:01,416 Cannon: When you see somebody who is such an advocate 977 01:06:01,500 --> 01:06:03,291 for the people coming behind her, 978 01:06:03,375 --> 01:06:07,250 it is very difficult to understand why she would decide to kill herself. 979 01:06:07,333 --> 01:06:09,125 Sandra: We have a job to do. 980 01:06:09,208 --> 01:06:10,708 Cannon: That just does not jive. 981 01:06:10,791 --> 01:06:12,375 Sandra: You got to conquer hate with love. 982 01:06:12,458 --> 01:06:13,958 Where somebody is being racist... 983 01:06:14,041 --> 01:06:18,166 Let's get to work. I'm ready. What about you? 984 01:06:19,041 --> 01:06:21,666 Mosley: I knew instantly that it was a cover-up. 985 01:06:21,750 --> 01:06:24,125 because I know that that wasn't in her character. 986 01:06:24,208 --> 01:06:26,708 I had talked to her, I had seen her. 987 01:06:27,375 --> 01:06:30,875 And if you know Sandra Bland, you know, she's had much harder tims 988 01:06:30,958 --> 01:06:34,000 than sitting in jail for three days. 989 01:06:36,833 --> 01:06:41,375 Carl Moore: In 2009, Sandra was charged with possession of marijuana. 990 01:06:42,166 --> 01:06:44,458 It was a personal use amount, 991 01:06:44,541 --> 01:06:46,791 but we ended up getting that case dismissed. 992 01:06:47,333 --> 01:06:50,958 In 2010, she was arrested for DWI, 993 01:06:51,041 --> 01:06:54,583 as well as possession of marijuana, again. 994 01:06:55,791 --> 01:06:56,916 Thirty-six. 995 01:06:57,750 --> 01:07:00,875 Mosley: In lieu of paying the ticket because you can't afford it, 996 01:07:00,958 --> 01:07:03,833 they'll let you sit the ticket out in jail. 997 01:07:04,250 --> 01:07:06,750 They charge X amount of dollars per day, 998 01:07:06,833 --> 01:07:09,333 and when you get to whatever that amount is, 999 01:07:09,416 --> 01:07:10,916 they release you. 1000 01:07:12,916 --> 01:07:15,833 Sandy went to Harris County and sat for 30 days. 1001 01:07:15,916 --> 01:07:19,250 And then she came to Waller and sat out two weeks. 1002 01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:21,500 She knew that was her responsibility 1003 01:07:21,583 --> 01:07:23,291 and wanted to take care of it. 1004 01:07:24,750 --> 01:07:29,791 There are uneducated people who are hellbent on self-extermination. 1005 01:07:29,875 --> 01:07:33,750 I am not one of them. I am into building up my kings and queens. 1006 01:07:33,833 --> 01:07:36,541 So for me, black lives matter. 1007 01:07:36,625 --> 01:07:39,458 And then, subset, all lives matter. 1008 01:07:40,541 --> 01:07:44,541 Woman: It is not okay that we have to create a hashtag, 1009 01:07:44,625 --> 01:07:46,541 "If I die in police custody." 1010 01:07:46,625 --> 01:07:50,291 (chanting): Black lives matter! Black lives matter! 1011 01:07:50,375 --> 01:07:54,166 Duhon: It went from sadness to utter frustration. 1012 01:07:54,250 --> 01:07:57,875 What I saw was an incredible amount of misinformation. 1013 01:07:57,958 --> 01:08:00,375 And it just kept on, kind of, 1014 01:08:00,458 --> 01:08:02,958 getting bigger and bigger and bigger. 1015 01:08:03,041 --> 01:08:08,041 And then you started to see things that were outright lies. 1016 01:08:08,125 --> 01:08:11,583 Man (over video): Sandra's done with her mugshots. I believe... 1017 01:08:11,666 --> 01:08:15,583 that the best way to get away with murdering her 1018 01:08:15,666 --> 01:08:19,332 was to stage the entire booking. 1019 01:08:19,417 --> 01:08:21,082 (automated voice): When she is allegedly 1020 01:08:21,166 --> 01:08:23,500 brought out of the holding cell to have her mugshot taken, 1021 01:08:23,582 --> 01:08:26,250 her face is blurred out through the entire segment. 1022 01:08:26,332 --> 01:08:29,750 Man: One of the most heavily discussed pieces of evidence is Bland's mugshot. 1023 01:08:29,833 --> 01:08:31,708 Many are postulating that she was already dead 1024 01:08:31,792 --> 01:08:33,125 when her photo was taken by police. 1025 01:08:33,207 --> 01:08:35,082 (automated voice): When getting a mugshot taken, 1026 01:08:35,166 --> 01:08:38,082 prisoners are told not to lean on the wall behind them. 1027 01:08:38,166 --> 01:08:40,750 Man: See that? He's wearing gloves. 1028 01:08:40,833 --> 01:08:44,082 Duhon: All these videos that were being put out on YouTube, 1029 01:08:44,166 --> 01:08:45,792 going through step-by-step 1030 01:08:45,875 --> 01:08:48,500 about how she was deceased before she even got to the jail, 1031 01:08:48,582 --> 01:08:51,625 (automated voice): You can clearly see in this image that Sandra was 1032 01:08:51,708 --> 01:08:54,291 flat against the supposed wall behind her. 1033 01:08:54,375 --> 01:08:56,207 Then that's when you started to see 1034 01:08:56,291 --> 01:08:59,125 where we were receiving the death threats. 1035 01:08:59,207 --> 01:09:01,207 ♪ ♪ 1036 01:09:01,625 --> 01:09:05,708 Mathis: People wanting to kill me, kill the sheriff. 1037 01:09:07,207 --> 01:09:10,917 I completely understand why there are groups of people 1038 01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:12,708 that think we killed that gir. 1039 01:09:13,417 --> 01:09:17,250 Because we're in the South, maybe because we talk a little slower. 1040 01:09:17,332 --> 01:09:20,082 Got this big, white, Bubba-looking guy, 1041 01:09:20,166 --> 01:09:22,291 that he must be a racist, 1042 01:09:22,375 --> 01:09:25,082 he must not like black people. Um... 1043 01:09:25,166 --> 01:09:28,667 He can't be trusted to get justice for Sandy. 1044 01:09:31,417 --> 01:09:35,582 Now this is a perfect storm for the country 1045 01:09:35,667 --> 01:09:39,375 to be divided and angry. 1046 01:09:41,166 --> 01:09:44,041 (protesters shouting) 1047 01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:50,166 Back up! Back up! 1048 01:09:50,250 --> 01:09:52,125 Man 2: We've still got some people inside! 1049 01:09:52,207 --> 01:09:54,958 (chanting): Let them out! Let them out! 1050 01:09:55,041 --> 01:09:56,250 Open the door! 1051 01:09:56,332 --> 01:09:58,000 All (chanting): Let them out! Let them out! 1052 01:09:58,082 --> 01:10:00,082 Let them out! Let them out! 1053 01:10:00,166 --> 01:10:01,625 Let them out! 1054 01:10:01,708 --> 01:10:04,542 (indistinct shouting) 1055 01:10:04,625 --> 01:10:07,417 (clamoring) 1056 01:10:10,375 --> 01:10:12,708 (indistinct shouting) 1057 01:10:18,125 --> 01:10:20,125 (shouting continuing) 1058 01:10:22,625 --> 01:10:24,207 All (chanting): Sandy still speaks! 1059 01:10:24,291 --> 01:10:25,917 -Let's go! -Sandy still speaks! 1060 01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:27,958 -Let's go! -Sandy still speaks! 1061 01:10:28,041 --> 01:10:29,667 -Let's go! -Sandy still speaks! 1062 01:10:29,750 --> 01:10:32,542 Duhon: On the other side of the wall is our 9-1-1 dispatchers 1063 01:10:32,625 --> 01:10:34,708 who are receiving emergency calls, 1064 01:10:34,792 --> 01:10:38,207 and then you have a group of people with bullhorns. 1065 01:10:38,291 --> 01:10:39,917 All: Sandy still speaks! 1066 01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,708 Duhon: Our 911 dispatchers couldn't even hear the phone calls. 1067 01:10:42,792 --> 01:10:44,375 All: Sandy still speaks! 1068 01:10:44,457 --> 01:10:48,207 Duhon: We had to get those people to vacate the front lobby. 1069 01:10:48,291 --> 01:10:51,250 (clamoring) 1070 01:10:54,125 --> 01:10:58,958 Smith: I spent several nights here, at the office, on my couch 1071 01:10:59,041 --> 01:11:01,667 because I was not gonna leave here 1072 01:11:01,750 --> 01:11:06,125 with employees, knowing they've got to be here all night. 1073 01:11:06,207 --> 01:11:08,041 Woman: Sandy's still speaking out! 1074 01:11:08,125 --> 01:11:09,833 Y'all killed her! 1075 01:11:09,917 --> 01:11:13,667 Which one of you two white boys went back there and do it? We saw the video. 1076 01:11:13,750 --> 01:11:15,625 -Officer: Come on. -Woman: Hey! Get off of me! 1077 01:11:15,708 --> 01:11:17,542 (clamoring) 1078 01:11:19,667 --> 01:11:21,417 If there's anybody left in there... 1079 01:11:21,500 --> 01:11:24,875 Mathis: You had the whole country looking at what was going on.. 1080 01:11:25,500 --> 01:11:29,625 with law enforcement under attack, with our past. 1081 01:11:30,917 --> 01:11:33,542 We need to just calm the hell down, 1082 01:11:33,625 --> 01:11:36,417 and we need to start looking at what happened, 1083 01:11:36,500 --> 01:11:39,375 and not what we think happened. 1084 01:11:39,792 --> 01:11:41,708 And more importantly... 1085 01:11:43,833 --> 01:11:46,207 not what we want to have happened. 1086 01:11:48,375 --> 01:11:51,375 ♪ Ms. Bland, I'm sorry I don't understand ♪ 1087 01:11:51,457 --> 01:11:54,332 ♪ Why they had to take you, but I blame that on the man ♪ 1088 01:11:54,417 --> 01:11:57,082 ♪ Intimidated that you had the voice to speak the truth ♪ 1089 01:11:57,166 --> 01:12:00,125 ♪ Black lives matter, but they'd rather have you in the noose ♪ 1090 01:12:00,207 --> 01:12:03,207 ♪ It hurts to think that this could be my sisters and my fam ♪ 1091 01:12:03,291 --> 01:12:06,291 ♪ Got me lookin' to the sky, yelling like, "Goddamn!" ♪ 1092 01:12:06,375 --> 01:12:09,250 ♪ Why you have to take this queen from her own land? ♪ 1093 01:12:09,332 --> 01:12:12,750 ♪ Five-O sleep in their cells, feeling like homeland... ♪ 1094 01:12:13,207 --> 01:12:14,375 Girl: No! 1095 01:12:15,542 --> 01:12:17,667 We're doing it! 1096 01:12:22,582 --> 01:12:25,792 Sharon: This is from the homecoming, from fall, 2014. 1097 01:12:26,582 --> 01:12:28,582 This picture is from this year. 1098 01:12:29,250 --> 01:12:32,457 A month and a half before she passed away. 1099 01:12:32,958 --> 01:12:35,625 This is from a family dinner this year. 1100 01:12:36,958 --> 01:12:40,332 This had to have been within the last year and a half, 1101 01:12:40,417 --> 01:12:44,125 because my daughter must have been one and a half, here. 1102 01:12:44,207 --> 01:12:46,917 This is actually from last summer. 1103 01:12:51,250 --> 01:12:53,375 (sobbing) 1104 01:13:03,958 --> 01:13:06,000 ♪ ♪ 1105 01:13:15,542 --> 01:13:18,958 Amy Lambert: Now, Cannon is heavily involved. 1106 01:13:19,958 --> 01:13:22,457 Life has changed in a blink of an eye. 1107 01:13:22,875 --> 01:13:27,291 One moment we went from being as a family, 1108 01:13:27,375 --> 01:13:30,375 to at any given moment, Cannon was gone, 1109 01:13:30,457 --> 01:13:33,750 and I didn't know when Cannon was coming back. 1110 01:13:35,291 --> 01:13:38,750 Death threats left on his phone. 1111 01:13:39,542 --> 01:13:43,500 Worrying for the kids' and my safety. 1112 01:13:45,417 --> 01:13:47,082 (voicemail beeps) 1113 01:13:47,166 --> 01:13:51,166 Man (over phone): Yes, uh, Mr. Lambert, I do have psychic abilities. 1114 01:13:52,166 --> 01:13:55,166 There's going to be an attempt made on your life this week. 1115 01:13:56,792 --> 01:14:00,542 You're delving into what's called the Code of Silence. 1116 01:14:00,625 --> 01:14:03,875 And it isn't only in the Chicago Police Department. 1117 01:14:03,958 --> 01:14:08,041 It's especially true in, uh, the state of Texas. 1118 01:14:08,833 --> 01:14:12,750 They always have a problem with, uh, Afro-Americans 1119 01:14:12,833 --> 01:14:15,833 who are so-called social activists. 1120 01:14:17,082 --> 01:14:19,792 Please be very careful, Mr. Lambert. 1121 01:14:31,207 --> 01:14:36,375 Cannon: The thing that really stuck out to me when I read this motion was that, 1122 01:14:36,457 --> 01:14:39,291 it says, "It is apparent now, 1123 01:14:39,375 --> 01:14:42,625 "that Bland's inability to secure her release from jail, 1124 01:14:42,708 --> 01:14:46,457 "and her family and friends' refusal to bail her out of jail, 1125 01:14:46,542 --> 01:14:49,417 led her to commit suicide." 1126 01:14:50,500 --> 01:14:55,708 Um, you're not just blaming the victim, you're blaming the family. 1127 01:14:58,958 --> 01:15:02,958 Mathis: We know that she was able to make contact with her family. 1128 01:15:03,041 --> 01:15:06,125 They knew that she needed to be bonded out. 1129 01:15:06,750 --> 01:15:09,667 And Mr. Booker, the bondsman, 1130 01:15:09,750 --> 01:15:12,833 he's got pretty much 24-hour access to the jail. 1131 01:15:12,917 --> 01:15:16,958 So, once your bond is set, he can go in there and get somebody out 1132 01:15:17,041 --> 01:15:19,750 pretty much whenever he wants. 1133 01:15:22,082 --> 01:15:28,000 Cannon: They find out, in the early evening on Saturday, 1134 01:15:28,417 --> 01:15:31,750 and by Sunday night, they're ready to get her out. 1135 01:15:32,332 --> 01:15:36,708 They called the next morning, on Monday morning, and she was gon. 1136 01:15:38,750 --> 01:15:42,125 A day and a half transpired, that's not a lot of time. 1137 01:15:42,207 --> 01:15:43,500 It's just not. 1138 01:15:44,125 --> 01:15:47,125 I know why they're trying to make it out to be. 1139 01:15:49,958 --> 01:15:52,958 How do you file that type of proceeding and, uh, by the way, 1140 01:15:53,041 --> 01:15:57,542 you've not even deposed the people you are claiming are responsible. 1141 01:15:57,625 --> 01:16:01,000 You've never spoken to them. You don't know what's in their minds. 1142 01:16:01,082 --> 01:16:04,250 What about you, Waller County? What about you, jailers? 1143 01:16:04,332 --> 01:16:07,833 What about you not paying attention to where she was at, 1144 01:16:07,917 --> 01:16:09,917 what she was doing, how she was feeling? 1145 01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:11,750 (protesters chanting) 1146 01:16:11,833 --> 01:16:15,500 You know, you can't orchestrate the frustration, 1147 01:16:15,582 --> 01:16:19,792 and you can't control the desire to see change. 1148 01:16:19,875 --> 01:16:22,000 (protesters chanting) 1149 01:16:23,125 --> 01:16:25,250 Man (over bullhorn): This is the New York City Police Department. 1150 01:16:25,332 --> 01:16:26,792 Please be advised... 1151 01:16:26,875 --> 01:16:29,207 -What's her name? -(indistinct) 1152 01:16:29,291 --> 01:16:31,207 -Say her name! -Sandra Bland! 1153 01:16:31,291 --> 01:16:33,375 Woman: We're in a state of war right now! 1154 01:16:33,457 --> 01:16:34,582 This is war! 1155 01:16:34,667 --> 01:16:36,250 All (chanting): United we stand! 1156 01:16:36,332 --> 01:16:38,332 We're doing this for Sandra Bland! 1157 01:16:38,417 --> 01:16:40,041 United we stand! 1158 01:16:40,125 --> 01:16:41,750 We're doing this for Sandra Bland! 1159 01:16:41,833 --> 01:16:43,917 -(sirens blaring) -Protesters: Sandra Bland! 1160 01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:45,500 Sandra Bland! 1161 01:16:45,792 --> 01:16:47,375 -Sandra Bland! -Say her name! 1162 01:16:47,457 --> 01:16:49,000 -Sandra Bland! -Say her name! 1163 01:16:49,082 --> 01:16:50,582 -Sandra Bland! -Say her name! 1164 01:16:50,667 --> 01:16:52,500 -Sandra Bland! Won't you say her name! -Say her name! 1165 01:16:52,582 --> 01:16:56,166 Say her name! Say her name! Say her name! Say her name! 1166 01:16:56,250 --> 01:17:00,041 Say her name! Say her name! Say her name! Say her name! 1167 01:17:00,125 --> 01:17:03,958 All: ♪ Hell, you talkin' 'bout ♪ 1168 01:17:04,041 --> 01:17:05,750 ♪ Hell, you talkin' 'bout ♪ 1169 01:17:05,833 --> 01:17:07,250 ♪ Hell, you talkin' 'bout ♪ 1170 01:17:07,332 --> 01:17:10,958 ♪ Hell, you talkin' 'bout ♪ 1171 01:17:11,041 --> 01:17:14,708 ♪ Hell, you talkin' 'bout, Hell, you talkin' 'bout ♪ 1172 01:17:28,708 --> 01:17:29,833 (camera clicks) 1173 01:17:31,457 --> 01:17:32,708 (camera clicks) 1174 01:17:35,542 --> 01:17:38,625 Dr. Joye Carter: The autopsy is, you know, our investigative tool. 1175 01:17:38,708 --> 01:17:41,417 So you have to be thinking forward. 1176 01:17:43,542 --> 01:17:48,833 She did have a well-formed ligature mark which had a V behind her left ear. 1177 01:17:48,917 --> 01:17:51,542 And that's the point of suspension. 1178 01:17:53,250 --> 01:17:56,166 It appears that she was not hanging 1179 01:17:56,250 --> 01:17:58,667 but perhaps seated with her head forward, 1180 01:17:58,750 --> 01:18:00,457 which is not uncommon. 1181 01:18:01,332 --> 01:18:05,375 As the blood flow decreases, then you really get sleepy. 1182 01:18:09,417 --> 01:18:11,542 Cannon: Is there any indication at all 1183 01:18:11,625 --> 01:18:13,375 that there could have been some foul play? 1184 01:18:13,457 --> 01:18:17,207 Are you in a place where you can render an opinion right now? 1185 01:18:18,332 --> 01:18:22,082 Carter: You have real injuries that could not have resulted 1186 01:18:22,166 --> 01:18:26,917 from a hanging, but from blunt force being applied to the back of the body. 1187 01:18:28,082 --> 01:18:31,582 She had scrapes on her upper right side of her back. 1188 01:18:31,667 --> 01:18:36,625 And yet there is no tissue that is labeled soft tissue from the back. 1189 01:18:37,917 --> 01:18:39,958 ♪ ♪ 1190 01:18:41,667 --> 01:18:43,457 Questions are still there. 1191 01:18:43,750 --> 01:18:48,457 -I have to go through everything before I render an an opinion. -Cannon: Yeah. 1192 01:18:51,833 --> 01:18:55,250 The Waller County grand jury, as of about 3:30 today, 1193 01:18:55,332 --> 01:19:00,457 has issued an indictment against State Trooper Brian Encinia for perjury. 1194 01:19:01,250 --> 01:19:03,041 Newswoman: Is that the only charge he's facing? 1195 01:19:03,125 --> 01:19:06,207 That's the only charge that the grand jury issued an indictment on. 1196 01:19:06,291 --> 01:19:09,625 The indictment was issued in reference to the reason 1197 01:19:09,708 --> 01:19:11,750 that he removed her from her vehicle. 1198 01:19:11,833 --> 01:19:17,625 It is a class A misdemeanor, excuse me, up to a year in jail and up to a $4,000 fine. 1199 01:19:17,708 --> 01:19:18,917 Sandra: I can't even... 1200 01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:20,542 I can't even fucking feel my arm! 1201 01:19:20,625 --> 01:19:22,917 Geneva: This guy's gonna get the minimal slap on the wrist 1202 01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:28,542 for the initial lie that put my daughter behind bars. 1203 01:19:33,582 --> 01:19:39,041 Here's a guy who should have clearly been charged with assault, 1204 01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:41,375 battery. 1205 01:19:42,207 --> 01:19:45,250 And I'm going to tell you that I can say, 1206 01:19:45,332 --> 01:19:48,291 "At least we got a perjury charge"? 1207 01:19:49,500 --> 01:19:50,708 No. 1208 01:20:05,875 --> 01:20:08,291 Sandra: My white friends, don't get upset, 1209 01:20:08,375 --> 01:20:12,125 but I'm going to call out racism wherever I see it. 1210 01:20:12,207 --> 01:20:16,082 So for you who can say, "Oh, the law doesn't see color," 1211 01:20:16,500 --> 01:20:19,958 it doesn't see color 'cause you ain't got no color in your skin. 1212 01:20:20,875 --> 01:20:26,082 You just don't know. You don't know racism because you don't live it. 1213 01:20:26,166 --> 01:20:28,041 You don't feel it. 1214 01:20:29,667 --> 01:20:33,667 What you may see as just somebody doing their job, 1215 01:20:33,750 --> 01:20:36,542 we see the undertones of that. 1216 01:20:39,542 --> 01:20:43,000 We've been trained to see them, because we live them every day. 1217 01:20:43,082 --> 01:20:49,125 Okay, I don't see anything wrong with the officer's actions until we get to the point 1218 01:20:49,207 --> 01:20:51,833 where he asks her to put the cigarette out. 1219 01:20:51,917 --> 01:20:55,000 She very accurately pointed out that she didn't have to put out a cigarette. 1220 01:20:55,082 --> 01:20:57,500 This is a perfect example of exactly how vulnerable black women are 1221 01:20:57,582 --> 01:20:59,582 in public space to law enforcement. 1222 01:20:59,667 --> 01:21:01,667 -He baited her, you know he did. -She had a problem-- 1223 01:21:01,750 --> 01:21:03,833 She had a problem with being stopped, 1224 01:21:03,917 --> 01:21:05,917 she didn't like the fact that she was being stopped, 1225 01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,500 her whole arrogant attitude, and that stop. 1226 01:21:08,582 --> 01:21:10,667 The officer should not have pulled her over-- 1227 01:21:10,750 --> 01:21:13,291 Hang on. Listen! I wan't everybody to listen. 1228 01:21:13,375 --> 01:21:15,250 Because I think-- Mark! Hang on, Mark! 1229 01:21:15,332 --> 01:21:17,500 Harry is calling arrogance, I'm calling dignity. 1230 01:21:17,582 --> 01:21:19,708 Black people have a right to assert their dignity in public, 1231 01:21:19,792 --> 01:21:22,500 and just because it doesn't cohere with what police want... 1232 01:21:34,041 --> 01:21:36,207 Let's just talk about why we're here a little bit. 1233 01:21:36,291 --> 01:21:43,332 Um, as you all know, Dr. Carter was retained to do a private, preliminary evaluation 1234 01:21:43,792 --> 01:21:46,750 of Sandy's body, 1235 01:21:46,833 --> 01:21:49,207 and come up with some preliminary findings, at this point, 1236 01:21:49,291 --> 01:21:51,542 give you a chance to ask questions, 1237 01:21:51,625 --> 01:21:55,500 with the understanding that this is our confidential conversation, 1238 01:21:55,582 --> 01:21:58,291 and that what you find out here, you don't share. 1239 01:21:59,417 --> 01:22:02,332 Carter: There are certain things that we look for in forensics 1240 01:22:02,417 --> 01:22:05,917 to give us the ability to say when the death occurred. 1241 01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:10,291 And, uh, you have a short window to document those things. 1242 01:22:10,375 --> 01:22:15,041 The primary one is getting a core body temperature, which was not done. 1243 01:22:15,125 --> 01:22:16,750 And that's what's lost. 1244 01:22:16,833 --> 01:22:20,833 And so at that point, Dr. Carter, when we called you in, you can't... 1245 01:22:20,917 --> 01:22:23,958 Carter: No, I can only go back so far, because by that time, 1246 01:22:24,041 --> 01:22:27,332 refrigeration has taken place, the body has been moved. 1247 01:22:27,792 --> 01:22:30,792 The largest amount of marijuana that shows 1248 01:22:30,875 --> 01:22:36,500 is what we call THC-COOH, or carboxylated, 1249 01:22:36,582 --> 01:22:38,500 and that means it's metabolized. 1250 01:22:38,582 --> 01:22:40,750 It hangs around the body for forever. 1251 01:22:40,833 --> 01:22:43,917 It is not a whopping amount of drug. 1252 01:22:44,041 --> 01:22:45,667 It was just nonsense. 1253 01:22:46,375 --> 01:22:49,625 And so that was just completely out of bounds. 1254 01:22:49,708 --> 01:22:55,750 Um, there were no fractures, but I found evidence of deep bruising. 1255 01:22:55,833 --> 01:23:01,332 Bruising going all the way through the deep muscles on... on the back, 1256 01:23:01,417 --> 01:23:04,291 uh, down to the level of the ribs. 1257 01:23:04,375 --> 01:23:09,457 So if someone has put their knee into a back, and they're grinding, 1258 01:23:09,542 --> 01:23:13,917 that's going to actually destroy the small vessels in the muscular tissue. 1259 01:23:16,207 --> 01:23:18,250 Just let us know if you need a break, okay? 1260 01:23:18,332 --> 01:23:21,417 We want to try to make sure everybody's getting the same information at the same time. 1261 01:23:21,500 --> 01:23:23,750 If you need to step out, it's okay. 1262 01:23:26,625 --> 01:23:28,833 Go ahead, Shavon. You have a question? 1263 01:23:28,917 --> 01:23:31,917 Shavon: With that kind of scarring going to the ribs, 1264 01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:35,417 would it be complicated for her to breathe, necessarily? 1265 01:23:35,500 --> 01:23:38,917 Carter: It would have been painful. She would have been in pain. 1266 01:23:39,667 --> 01:23:42,291 I mean, I've had that type of pain, and so, I... 1267 01:23:42,375 --> 01:23:44,833 I'm just trying to, you know, process everything. 1268 01:23:44,917 --> 01:23:47,833 It's not really adding up to me. 1269 01:23:47,917 --> 01:23:51,833 Carter: I wanted to rule out foul play occurring, 1270 01:23:51,917 --> 01:23:54,417 consistent with, with hands placed on. 1271 01:23:54,500 --> 01:23:57,166 I did examine the hyoid bone, it was not fractured. 1272 01:23:57,250 --> 01:24:01,125 We generally see that when we have homicidal strangulation, 1273 01:24:01,207 --> 01:24:04,667 where someone has their hands around the neck. That was not present here. 1274 01:24:04,750 --> 01:24:07,375 Cannon: Correct me if I'm wrong, with homicidal death, 1275 01:24:07,457 --> 01:24:10,166 you see things like defensive wounds, 1276 01:24:10,250 --> 01:24:13,708 you see things like impressions in the skin... 1277 01:24:13,792 --> 01:24:17,375 -Correct. -Cannon: You didn't find any of those physical findings. 1278 01:24:17,457 --> 01:24:20,667 So we have these open questions, still. 1279 01:24:21,291 --> 01:24:25,375 Will you be able to dust for fingerprints, or have we missed that window? 1280 01:24:25,457 --> 01:24:29,041 That should have been done, but we don't know that they did. 1281 01:24:29,125 --> 01:24:32,166 We asked that question and I was told that they hadn't done that. 1282 01:24:32,250 --> 01:24:38,625 There is a lot of significant and vital information that is missing. 1283 01:24:38,708 --> 01:24:41,417 The bruising on her back and on her legs, 1284 01:24:41,500 --> 01:24:45,000 I mean, yeah, he was on her back for a significant amount of time 1285 01:24:45,082 --> 01:24:47,332 when she was arrested, but I mean, 1286 01:24:47,417 --> 01:24:50,207 I don't know. It's just, it could have happened while she was sleeping. 1287 01:24:50,291 --> 01:24:53,417 It could have happened while she was laying down her, I mean, I just... 1288 01:24:53,500 --> 01:24:54,582 Rogers: Sure. 1289 01:24:54,667 --> 01:24:57,000 There's a lot of things that are just... 1290 01:24:57,082 --> 01:24:59,250 that just does not add up. 1291 01:24:59,332 --> 01:25:02,250 As lawyers looking at this, we have to approach, 1292 01:25:02,332 --> 01:25:08,500 um, all possibilities and probabilities. 1293 01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:12,041 Carter: My question is what led to this point. 1294 01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:16,207 I have ruled out a homicidal hanging. 1295 01:25:17,166 --> 01:25:19,250 It's not suggestive of that at all. 1296 01:25:19,332 --> 01:25:21,041 But I think this is something-- 1297 01:25:21,125 --> 01:25:24,750 You're supposed to be face-to-face once an hour, 1298 01:25:24,833 --> 01:25:28,082 not looking through a window and guessing. 1299 01:25:28,166 --> 01:25:30,792 This young woman is scared and frightened 1300 01:25:30,875 --> 01:25:35,417 and someone is having emotional pain, physical pain, 1301 01:25:35,500 --> 01:25:39,250 isolated, then you have some things that should be considered 1302 01:25:39,332 --> 01:25:41,457 as being driven to. 1303 01:25:41,542 --> 01:25:45,125 You know, we know that someone's spirit can be broken, 1304 01:25:45,207 --> 01:25:47,166 even in a short period of time. 1305 01:25:48,667 --> 01:25:50,625 So sorry for your loss. 1306 01:25:50,708 --> 01:25:52,875 -Thank you. -Thank you. 1307 01:25:56,582 --> 01:25:58,708 ♪ ♪ 1308 01:26:16,792 --> 01:26:18,917 ♪ ♪ 1309 01:26:27,708 --> 01:26:30,000 Newswoman: The grand jury was released from the courtroom 1310 01:26:30,082 --> 01:26:31,250 just a few minutes ago. 1311 01:26:31,332 --> 01:26:33,250 They just came out. They are done. 1312 01:26:33,332 --> 01:26:36,250 Newswoman 2: Everyone was cleared of wrongdoing at the Waller County Jail 1313 01:26:36,332 --> 01:26:38,166 where Bland died in custody. 1314 01:26:38,250 --> 01:26:40,166 Her death was ruled a suicide, 1315 01:26:40,250 --> 01:26:41,667 her protesters don't believe it. 1316 01:26:41,750 --> 01:26:44,082 -Smith: They have... (indistinct) -(protesters shouting) 1317 01:26:44,166 --> 01:26:47,082 And we just need to let the court system work. 1318 01:26:47,166 --> 01:26:49,207 (indistinct shouting) 1319 01:26:49,708 --> 01:26:53,833 Geneva: I'm sitting there and I'm going, "Wow. Really?" 1320 01:26:54,291 --> 01:26:57,000 Because I'm just mad because my daughter is gone. 1321 01:26:57,082 --> 01:27:02,917 It made me want to get up, even more, because the truth has got to come out. 1322 01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:05,125 ♪ ♪ 1323 01:27:06,125 --> 01:27:09,500 Shavon: To be a strong African-American woman... 1324 01:27:10,125 --> 01:27:13,125 I imagine they were just so irritated 1325 01:27:13,207 --> 01:27:17,332 with her knowledge and her education. 1326 01:27:19,833 --> 01:27:24,250 And just... they got... they got pissed. 1327 01:27:25,875 --> 01:27:28,833 Sharon: The jail has a policy 1328 01:27:28,917 --> 01:27:30,708 that if you bring an inmate in 1329 01:27:30,792 --> 01:27:32,875 and you deem them to be a threat 1330 01:27:32,958 --> 01:27:34,833 or aggressive or what have you, 1331 01:27:34,917 --> 01:27:38,125 you isolate them initially and then you reevaluate them within a 24-hour period. 1332 01:27:38,207 --> 01:27:41,750 We know that that didn't happen for Sandy because she was there 1333 01:27:41,833 --> 01:27:44,542 by herself for three days. 1334 01:27:45,542 --> 01:27:48,375 She's not combative, she's not aggressive. 1335 01:27:50,207 --> 01:27:52,000 Why single her out? 1336 01:27:57,166 --> 01:27:59,332 (distant siren wailing) 1337 01:28:05,457 --> 01:28:08,500 Protesters: I am here today because last Monday, 1338 01:28:08,582 --> 01:28:13,958 I read that the grand jury refused to indict anyone 1339 01:28:14,041 --> 01:28:17,625 connected to the death of Sandra Bland. 1340 01:28:17,708 --> 01:28:21,792 I am here today because justice was not served. 1341 01:28:21,875 --> 01:28:24,958 I'm here today to grieve the loss 1342 01:28:25,041 --> 01:28:30,750 of not just one black life, but several, whose lives were cut short 1343 01:28:30,833 --> 01:28:32,500 because of injustice. 1344 01:28:32,582 --> 01:28:37,125 I'm here to remember Freddie Gray, to grieve Tamir Rice, 1345 01:28:37,207 --> 01:28:41,332 Karin Smith, Michael Brown, Roshad McIntosh, 1346 01:28:41,417 --> 01:28:44,750 Tanisha Anderson, and many others. 1347 01:28:57,542 --> 01:29:00,000 Bonner: As a white woman living in America, 1348 01:29:00,082 --> 01:29:05,207 I knew that what happened to Sandra would not happen to me. 1349 01:29:06,542 --> 01:29:09,041 I would not be threatened with a Taser. 1350 01:29:09,125 --> 01:29:12,457 I would not be taken into custody. 1351 01:29:14,166 --> 01:29:16,332 Regardless of if she had a cigarette, 1352 01:29:16,417 --> 01:29:18,667 regardless of whether she cursed, 1353 01:29:18,750 --> 01:29:22,000 I believe Office Encinia would not have pulled 1354 01:29:22,082 --> 01:29:25,792 Sandra Bland from her car if she looked like me. 1355 01:29:27,708 --> 01:29:31,417 Therefore, racism killed Sandra Bland. 1356 01:29:38,917 --> 01:29:42,207 Mathis: The reason Sandy was taken to jail 1357 01:29:42,291 --> 01:29:46,792 was Brian Encinia's allegations that she assaulted him. 1358 01:29:47,291 --> 01:29:52,082 That's how Sandra was placed in solitary confinement. 1359 01:29:52,166 --> 01:29:56,207 It's because she was the only woman in the jail at that time, 1360 01:29:56,291 --> 01:29:59,750 that came under that classification that put her there. 1361 01:30:00,291 --> 01:30:04,332 And the reason there's no photograph of Sandy hanging in the jail 1362 01:30:04,417 --> 01:30:07,750 is because when the jail found her hanging, the first thing they did 1363 01:30:07,833 --> 01:30:10,708 was get her down and try to bring her back to life. 1364 01:30:10,792 --> 01:30:13,000 In that situation, 1365 01:30:13,082 --> 01:30:16,041 it would be a pretty cruel and callous thing for a person to do to, 1366 01:30:16,125 --> 01:30:18,500 "Let's take a photo of the person hanging, 1367 01:30:18,582 --> 01:30:21,750 and then let's try to see if we can save them." 1368 01:30:23,582 --> 01:30:25,332 Cannon: Larry and I looked at this, 1369 01:30:25,417 --> 01:30:28,917 and we went back and forth trying to figure out 1370 01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:30,958 if there's something that we're missing, 1371 01:30:31,041 --> 01:30:33,792 and we just can't see that we're missing anything. 1372 01:30:34,667 --> 01:30:38,625 So these are the hourly observation logs from Waller County, 1373 01:30:38,708 --> 01:30:42,542 and this is on the 13th of July, the day that she was found. 1374 01:30:42,625 --> 01:30:46,250 That's the sequence that the paperwork's coming in at. 1375 01:30:46,332 --> 01:30:51,792 So seven o'clock in the morning, at 7:05 they're representing her to be there. 1376 01:30:52,332 --> 01:30:54,041 And then 8:01, 1377 01:30:54,667 --> 01:30:56,250 8:54. 1378 01:30:56,332 --> 01:30:59,750 Now remember, they're checking on her, right? 1379 01:30:59,833 --> 01:31:02,041 And she's found at 8:00-- 1380 01:31:02,125 --> 01:31:05,708 Well, she's purportedly found at 8:54. 1381 01:31:05,792 --> 01:31:07,082 So that's when they find her. 1382 01:31:07,166 --> 01:31:10,582 Then we see these other logs at 9:47. 1383 01:31:10,667 --> 01:31:12,917 And then there's a blank. And then at 11:13, 1384 01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:15,792 and then there's a series of blanks, all following. 1385 01:31:15,875 --> 01:31:18,041 It doesn't make any sense to me. 1386 01:31:18,667 --> 01:31:23,582 The jail logs were filled out in a way that... 1387 01:31:25,582 --> 01:31:28,041 should not have been filled out. 1388 01:31:28,582 --> 01:31:30,582 They were turned in... 1389 01:31:31,457 --> 01:31:34,500 with false information. 1390 01:31:37,207 --> 01:31:42,708 Smith: What that jailer was doing was pre-filling out the form. 1391 01:31:43,457 --> 01:31:47,917 Did he falsify? No. Not in his mind. 1392 01:31:49,291 --> 01:31:51,958 Mathis: So, the truth is, 1393 01:31:52,041 --> 01:31:55,166 he, the person that signed that jail log, 1394 01:31:55,250 --> 01:31:57,250 did not see Sandy. 1395 01:31:57,332 --> 01:31:59,166 They did not check on her that hour. 1396 01:31:59,250 --> 01:32:01,166 That is a false record. 1397 01:32:01,250 --> 01:32:04,667 Was it made intentionally, or knowingly, 1398 01:32:04,750 --> 01:32:07,082 or with evil intent? 1399 01:32:07,166 --> 01:32:08,958 According to what he says, no. 1400 01:32:16,125 --> 01:32:18,291 Geneva: Sandy was bold, 1401 01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:22,792 and knew exactly what was right and what was wrong. 1402 01:32:22,875 --> 01:32:26,250 I don't believe Sandy shut her mouth when she got to the that jail. 1403 01:32:26,332 --> 01:32:30,708 I believe she kept talking, I believe she let them know, I'll see you guys in court. 1404 01:32:30,792 --> 01:32:34,500 I believe she did all of it. And I believe they silenced her. 1405 01:32:34,582 --> 01:32:36,917 So no. It's not settled. 1406 01:32:37,291 --> 01:32:41,082 And no, I don't believe she committed suicide. Still. 1407 01:32:41,166 --> 01:32:43,291 ♪ ♪ 1408 01:32:51,417 --> 01:32:54,542 Cannon: When we start talking about how different this case is, 1409 01:32:54,625 --> 01:32:57,332 and if it's different, I think we approach it differently. 1410 01:32:57,417 --> 01:32:59,166 You know, Freddie Gray was a settlement. 1411 01:32:59,250 --> 01:33:00,792 You know, Garner was a settlement. 1412 01:33:00,875 --> 01:33:04,166 Tamir Rice was a settlement. DuBois was a settlement. 1413 01:33:04,250 --> 01:33:08,875 Everything's been settling for at least 5 million to 10 million dollars. 1414 01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:11,750 Cannon: They're going to argue that those were homicides 1415 01:33:11,833 --> 01:33:14,582 that were caught in video as opposed to a suicide, 1416 01:33:14,667 --> 01:33:17,833 which we can't prove to the contrary. 1417 01:33:18,291 --> 01:33:22,667 The only thing that you can go to verdict on is a suicide. 1418 01:33:24,125 --> 01:33:29,291 And I started thinking about what it would mean if we tried the case. 1419 01:33:30,332 --> 01:33:32,958 Well, Geneva didn't believe that this was a suicide, 1420 01:33:33,041 --> 01:33:35,166 and doesn't believe it right now. 1421 01:33:35,750 --> 01:33:38,792 But I watched over 130 hours worth of video, 1422 01:33:38,875 --> 01:33:43,958 and you don't see anybody go into her cell, or come out of her cell. 1423 01:33:47,917 --> 01:33:52,958 Even though we know that this was extremely, extremely mysterious 1424 01:33:53,041 --> 01:33:55,875 in terms of the circumstances surrounding this case. 1425 01:33:58,166 --> 01:33:59,917 She was hung from a trash bag. 1426 01:34:03,708 --> 01:34:06,582 Well, the problem with that trash bag is, 1427 01:34:06,667 --> 01:34:09,250 is that it didn't have her fingerprints on it. 1428 01:34:09,332 --> 01:34:11,500 In fact, it didn't have anybody's fingerprints on it. 1429 01:34:12,041 --> 01:34:14,875 In fact, it didn't even have her DNA on it. 1430 01:34:17,625 --> 01:34:19,625 We know there's a bunch of evidence that's out there 1431 01:34:19,708 --> 01:34:23,041 that we'll never have any ability to grab or touch. 1432 01:34:23,125 --> 01:34:24,750 It's lost. 1433 01:34:26,958 --> 01:34:30,582 But ultimately, I don't look at it from the standpoint of whether or not 1434 01:34:30,667 --> 01:34:33,166 it was a suicide or whether or not it was a murder. 1435 01:34:33,250 --> 01:34:35,000 It was an in-custody death. 1436 01:34:35,082 --> 01:34:37,250 Sandy should be here, period. 1437 01:34:41,750 --> 01:34:48,082 There have been 816 deaths, in custody since Sandy's death. One year. 1438 01:34:48,166 --> 01:34:53,500 What if we say to them that we are looking to see cameras installed throughout the jail? 1439 01:34:53,582 --> 01:34:55,667 Geneva: Your Waller County report says 1440 01:34:55,750 --> 01:34:58,375 what it's going to cost you to do the changes. 1441 01:34:58,457 --> 01:35:01,500 It's roughly 20 million, in your facility. 1442 01:35:01,582 --> 01:35:03,375 You know what, Mother Reed-Veal... 1443 01:35:03,457 --> 01:35:06,250 Geneva: There's no amount of money that you could put on your child. 1444 01:35:07,291 --> 01:35:12,166 And so at some point you have to not torture yourself and say, "What happened?" 1445 01:35:12,250 --> 01:35:17,291 So I decided I'm going to go from what happened, to what happens now. 1446 01:35:19,457 --> 01:35:21,082 ♪ ♪ 1447 01:35:21,166 --> 01:35:24,457 It was the most unnerving thing you ever want to see. 1448 01:35:24,958 --> 01:35:27,958 Going back and forth, back and forth. 1449 01:35:29,207 --> 01:35:31,125 Mediator coming into the room, 1450 01:35:31,833 --> 01:35:33,166 leaving back out. 1451 01:35:33,250 --> 01:35:35,625 "No, we're not going for that. Yes, no, yes, no." 1452 01:35:35,708 --> 01:35:37,332 Eight hours. 1453 01:35:47,625 --> 01:35:49,750 (indistinct chatter) 1454 01:35:51,958 --> 01:35:56,041 I'm okay. The world will never forget Sandra Bland. 1455 01:35:59,750 --> 01:36:02,332 Best... family... in the world. 1456 01:36:03,625 --> 01:36:06,750 And there's going to be changes that come from this, 1457 01:36:06,833 --> 01:36:09,542 long-standing changes that come from this. 1458 01:36:15,708 --> 01:36:17,833 (chattering) 1459 01:36:21,667 --> 01:36:24,500 Geneva: It's time to walk your talk now. 1460 01:36:25,166 --> 01:36:26,582 Young people, 1461 01:36:26,667 --> 01:36:29,417 don't let Sandy's death be in vain. 1462 01:36:29,500 --> 01:36:33,833 I am looking at all of you and you are here not by coincidence. 1463 01:36:33,917 --> 01:36:37,417 The baby said before she left here she was going to go international. 1464 01:36:37,500 --> 01:36:39,125 She was going to make history. 1465 01:36:39,207 --> 01:36:42,582 So now you have Sandy Bland Parkway. Look it up on Google. 1466 01:36:43,291 --> 01:36:47,000 And it's going to take a whole lot more of us standing up and saying 1467 01:36:47,082 --> 01:36:49,125 "We are not buying it," 1468 01:36:49,207 --> 01:36:51,500 in order for this to stop. 1469 01:36:52,958 --> 01:36:54,958 Charles Witherspoon: It's tough to hear that from a mother, 1470 01:36:55,041 --> 01:36:57,500 which makes me fight even harder 1471 01:36:57,582 --> 01:37:00,875 to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. 1472 01:37:01,875 --> 01:37:06,500 Even when the truth is against the organization... 1473 01:37:08,250 --> 01:37:09,875 that you served. 1474 01:37:10,917 --> 01:37:14,582 Police officers around the country, you need to hear my voice. 1475 01:37:15,082 --> 01:37:17,166 Tell the freakin' truth. 1476 01:37:19,375 --> 01:37:21,542 ♪ ♪ 1477 01:37:39,041 --> 01:37:43,332 Do I think the legal operation of this jail 1478 01:37:43,417 --> 01:37:45,958 have anything to do with her death? 1479 01:37:46,041 --> 01:37:48,125 No. No, I don't. 1480 01:37:49,041 --> 01:37:51,833 The moral responsibility 1481 01:37:51,917 --> 01:37:55,667 at eight o'clock, if you'd have gone back there in person 1482 01:37:55,750 --> 01:38:00,875 maybe looked at her eyes and seen, "Hey, something's going on with her, 1483 01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:02,417 "a little different. 1484 01:38:02,500 --> 01:38:05,125 "She's stressing," uh... 1485 01:38:05,833 --> 01:38:09,000 moral responsibility-wise, absolutely. 1486 01:38:09,332 --> 01:38:10,917 ♪ ♪ 1487 01:38:11,375 --> 01:38:15,375 Smith: It's not a black versus white issue. 1488 01:38:16,125 --> 01:38:20,457 No, we didn't go back there and tie a bag around her neck. 1489 01:38:21,625 --> 01:38:25,792 But it is our responsibility to take care of her. 1490 01:38:26,417 --> 01:38:32,332 And that, with her and her family, we let her down. 1491 01:38:32,417 --> 01:38:34,125 ♪ ♪ 1492 01:38:34,375 --> 01:38:38,792 Could there have been something we could have done to prevent it? 1493 01:38:38,875 --> 01:38:40,792 I'll always think that. 1494 01:38:52,457 --> 01:38:55,750 Mathis: I'm never going to make everybody in Chicago 1495 01:38:55,833 --> 01:38:57,750 believe what I'm saying. 1496 01:38:57,833 --> 01:38:59,625 Or New York City. 1497 01:39:00,291 --> 01:39:04,082 But this is the little corner of the earth where God's put me. 1498 01:39:04,166 --> 01:39:09,582 And if I, as the district attorney, don't step back and say, 1499 01:39:09,667 --> 01:39:12,250 "Hey, Elton, what do you need to do differently, 1500 01:39:12,332 --> 01:39:15,500 do you have any racist tendencies in you..." 1501 01:39:16,166 --> 01:39:19,000 then I can't help anybody else. 1502 01:39:23,625 --> 01:39:25,792 Sandra: Good morning, my beautiful kings and queens. 1503 01:39:25,875 --> 01:39:30,667 You know, racism is still only alive because people keep perpetuating it. 1504 01:39:30,750 --> 01:39:32,625 White and black. 1505 01:39:32,708 --> 01:39:35,417 Enough people don't have friends of a different race. 1506 01:39:35,500 --> 01:39:37,708 Black people included. We don't have enough white friends, 1507 01:39:37,792 --> 01:39:39,708 they don't have enough black friends. 1508 01:39:40,542 --> 01:39:42,582 ♪ ♪ 1509 01:39:45,582 --> 01:39:49,958 For those who don't agree with the things that I'm saying, I apologize. 1510 01:39:50,041 --> 01:39:54,375 But I'm not going to stop. This is about educating you. 1511 01:39:56,667 --> 01:40:00,375 That is my goal. We need to educate each other. 1512 01:40:01,207 --> 01:40:03,667 That's the only way this is going to work. 1513 01:40:10,125 --> 01:40:15,917 We love you... and your sister wants to play a song for you. 1514 01:40:16,750 --> 01:40:18,708 (funk song playing) 1515 01:40:18,792 --> 01:40:19,917 I see you, girl. 1516 01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:21,833 -♪ I'm too hot ♪ -♪ Hot damn ♪ 1517 01:40:21,917 --> 01:40:24,250 ♪ Call the police and a fireman ♪ 1518 01:40:24,332 --> 01:40:26,166 -♪ I'm too hot ♪ -♪ Hot damn ♪ 1519 01:40:26,250 --> 01:40:28,291 ♪ Make a dragon wanna retire, man ♪ 1520 01:40:28,375 --> 01:40:30,625 -♪ I'm too hot ♪ -♪ Hot damn ♪ 1521 01:40:30,708 --> 01:40:32,250 ♪ Say my name you know who I am ♪ 1522 01:40:32,332 --> 01:40:34,417 -♪ I'm too hot ♪ -♪ Hot damn ♪ 1523 01:40:34,500 --> 01:40:37,000 ♪ And my band 'bout that money, break it down ♪ 1524 01:40:37,082 --> 01:40:40,500 So my peeps, I love you. I'm headed into work. 1525 01:40:40,582 --> 01:40:43,917 Hoping you all have the same great, prosperous days. 1526 01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:48,417 Go out there, be great. Do something that you love. "Sandy Speaks." 1527 01:40:50,291 --> 01:40:52,332 ♪ ♪ 1528 01:40:53,875 --> 01:40:58,000 ♪ Is it bitter? Is it sweet, sweet? ♪ 1529 01:40:58,457 --> 01:41:02,542 ♪ Is it bland? Is it bland, bland? Tell me ♪ 1530 01:41:02,625 --> 01:41:06,542 ♪ Is it bitter? Is it sweet, sweet ♪ 1531 01:41:06,625 --> 01:41:08,457 ♪ Is it bland? ♪ 1532 01:41:08,708 --> 01:41:10,457 ♪ Is it bland? ♪ 1533 01:41:11,332 --> 01:41:13,375 ♪ Strange fruit ♪ 1534 01:41:13,958 --> 01:41:17,917 ♪ Hangin' from a plastic bag noose, that don't sound right ♪ 1535 01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:21,250 ♪ Then they call it suicide ♪ 1536 01:41:21,792 --> 01:41:25,291 ♪ Like she ain't got no sense of pride ♪ 1537 01:41:25,792 --> 01:41:28,750 ♪ My people ain't no foolin' we ♪ 1538 01:41:28,833 --> 01:41:32,250 ♪ Eyes open, eyes shut, they gon' see ♪ 1539 01:41:32,332 --> 01:41:35,125 ♪ Open or they're shut, they gon' see ♪ 1540 01:41:35,207 --> 01:41:39,250 ♪ Is it bitter? Is it sweet, sweet? ♪ 1541 01:41:39,332 --> 01:41:43,750 ♪ Is it bland? Is it bland, bland? Tell me ♪ 1542 01:41:43,833 --> 01:41:47,457 ♪ Is it bitter? Is it sweet, sweet? ♪ 1543 01:41:48,166 --> 01:41:49,542 ♪ Is it bland? ♪ 1544 01:41:49,958 --> 01:41:51,291 ♪ Is it bland? ♪ 1545 01:41:51,375 --> 01:41:53,917 ♪ Tell me, do you believe this shit? ♪ 1546 01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:55,500 ♪ Hell, no! ♪ 1547 01:41:55,582 --> 01:41:59,375 ♪ They keep getting away with the same things ♪ 1548 01:41:59,457 --> 01:42:03,417 ♪ Sandra would be turning in her grave ♪ 1549 01:42:03,500 --> 01:42:05,542 ♪ If we all just shut up ♪ 1550 01:42:05,625 --> 01:42:07,542 ♪ And behave ♪ 1551 01:42:07,625 --> 01:42:10,082 ♪ Silence is a new slave ♪ 1552 01:42:10,166 --> 01:42:11,250 ♪ Shh! ♪ 1553 01:42:11,332 --> 01:42:13,958 ♪ Silence is a new slave ♪ 1554 01:42:14,041 --> 01:42:16,082 ♪ Say it now, silence is a new slave ♪ 1555 01:42:16,166 --> 01:42:18,332 ♪ Silence is a new slave ♪ 1556 01:42:19,542 --> 01:42:21,708 ♪ Silence is a new slave ♪ 1557 01:42:22,166 --> 01:42:24,332 ♪ Slave, slave, slave ♪ 1558 01:42:24,542 --> 01:42:26,082 ♪ Is it bitter? ♪ 1559 01:42:26,375 --> 01:42:27,667 ♪ Is it sweet, sweet? ♪ 1560 01:42:27,750 --> 01:42:29,875 ♪ Is it bland? ♪ 1561 01:42:30,542 --> 01:42:31,792 ♪ Is it bland, bland? ♪ 1562 01:42:31,875 --> 01:42:32,667 ♪ Tell me ♪ 1563 01:42:32,750 --> 01:42:34,625 ♪ Is it bitter? ♪ 1564 01:42:34,708 --> 01:42:36,207 ♪ Is it sweet, sweet ♪ 1565 01:42:36,875 --> 01:42:38,166 ♪ Is it bland? ♪ 1566 01:42:38,708 --> 01:42:40,375 ♪ Is it bland? ♪ 1567 01:42:40,750 --> 01:42:42,332 ♪ Is it bland? ♪ 132003

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